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You guys got to come down.

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» No, I know.

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602 and uh public hearing no start.

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First we'll do the pledge of allegiance

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to the flag of the United States of

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America and to the republic for which it

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stands. One nation under God,

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indivisible, with liberty and justice

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for all.

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» First, we'll have uh citizens comments.

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Any citizen comments?

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Are we

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talking about what you just did on your

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bucket or

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» Talk about anything? Now's the time.

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Is is this a selective meeting or a town

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meeting?

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» This is a public hearing.

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» David Lamach school

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for the chip seal on it come out pretty

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nice.

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I just had a a couple of questions.

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First one is

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roads selected

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to be taken care of.

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When you when you're looking at your

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budget

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or how much

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you can do,

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who makes the determination on what

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needs to be done?

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The determination comes from

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I public works. what roads are more

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grave than others with this with the ch

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some some of the roads can't be chips

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some of them are just they need to be

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replaced so they they figure out what

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roads could you like they start with

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then they'll go to um brown or wherever

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» Well can I jump in here we also have the

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contract with Beta which did a scan of

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all 37.2 2 miles of town road and they

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gave us recommendations for maintenance

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for each road and a schedule and that's

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what public works is using to make their

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decisions. So it's not just we're

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randomly picking roads. It's we have

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data that was collected because data

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drove around with trucks and they

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scanned all the roads to get road

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conditions and then they gave

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recommendations on whether it was a chip

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seal, whether it was a full replacement,

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all that sort of stuff. There was a host

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of things that they gave us. Okay.

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So, if we remember back last year at the

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town meeting that

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got cops involved

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over a lot of voicing over Williams

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throat over there off of Brown

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and Kentucky was supposed to be chip

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sealed last year,

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but apparently they went over and did a

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pave job

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on Williams.

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» So the reason why Shitucket wasn't done

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last year wasn't a change in priorities.

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It was due to weather. So they ran out

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of time due to weather on what they

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» Time to do Williams.

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They were assigned to Williams

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» And I don't when they were crack sealing

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and it got 90 degrees,

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you undercoated everybody's car.

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The stuff was running down the road.

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» Yeah, I had a few people calling about

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that. So, we uh we had the chip ceiling

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company here tonight. I think

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they're going to show up. They were

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supposed to be here. So,

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So my second question is

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when are you going to finish the reps of

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from school that horse?

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» I don't know if that was on the plan. Do

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you Ryan?

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» Really?

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It's on the plan. Um,

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Kentucky and

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not Valley.

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Ron, what's your road? Where is it?

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» James.

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» James Road.

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» He's on James Road.

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» James Road. So, they were doing

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Satucket, James Road, and I think

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» Where the chip seal.

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» Yeah.

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» But Shitucket from Wley School at a

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farest

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» The back end. You can't just chip seal

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that.

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» Is that Is that

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okay? I know what you're saying now.

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» You know where I mean?

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» Yeah. Don't to the dead end.

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» Yeah.

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» A dead end back there. Yeah.

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» Dirty ch

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» Um I mean I'll have to find out about

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» Have you driven it?

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» I driven. It's not great. I'm going to

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agree. Not good. So,

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» I'm just curious where it fits in.

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» Right. And I I'll I'll get to the bottom

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of that and ask him why. But

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» The other one he got done was that was

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just as bad.

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Quickly,

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» Right?

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I will make that a note and I'll talk

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to the chip steelers if they're here

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tonight about it and then if not then

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» That's complete rebuild.

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» Yeah.

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» Oh yeah.

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» A rebuild's a little tougher than just

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chips.

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» But so wasn't the other one off of

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» Right?

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» That was rebuilt off.

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» It wasn't rebuilt. It was just hard.

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» Yeah. Well, okay. It was just part over,

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but it was just as bad a shape as the

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» That's the thing.

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» Well, it's a lot better than it was.

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» We will figure that one out. We'll we'll

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try to figure that one out. And that's

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just like any other road in Ventown. We

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got to look at it, process, and what we

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can afford. Okay. At one one time, one

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of the

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past selectman

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I thought to him about it

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said, "Well, there's only one house down

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there."

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That was the wrong answer.

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» Did you hear me say that?

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» No.

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» No.

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Every road's a road here. Whether it's

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one house on the road, whether it's 30,

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» Right?

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» We I look at it the same. though and and

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you drive around Vent Town and some of

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these roads are not good at all. So, I

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mean it's tough to like we can say that

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and we can put Gallop on there and we

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can put Kenny on there and we can put

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you know a ton of them on there too.

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» Oh yeah.

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» So

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there's a lot of work involved if we had

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the money be great. I wish I could call

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and say, "Well, we're going to do this

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one this year. We'll do that one next

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year or two those two next year." But,

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you know,

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» Well, you can put in your strong

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reputation,

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» Right?

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Anybody else?

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» Hey, John.

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» Yeah. Um, not messing with the TV

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because it's still working. Everybody

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can see fine. But John here,

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» Uh, new business

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first part is the water study findings.

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John, you there?

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» John?

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» I am here. Can you hear me?

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» Can you guys hear me?

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» He shouldn't come through the TV. He

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should be coming here.

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Can you hear us?

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» I can. Yes. And I can see Brian and Sue.

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» Okay.

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Okay. You're on the laptop. Give us a

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second, John. We'll get you.

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» Okay. Yeah. Take your time.

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Is the plug coming out from the garbage

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can on the wall over there?

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» Oh, yeah. I can see.

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» Well,

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» All right.

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» Can you guys hear me now?

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» Perfect. Yes.

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Okay. Um, so for the record, I'm John

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Gusowski. I'm the town's uh consulting

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planning director. Um, I've been uh

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project managing the community water

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system study. Um, just have a brief

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statement about the the current status.

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Um, the town of Volunttown community

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water system study was initiated to

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evaluate whether a public water system

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could address recurring well reliability

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concerns, support future development,

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and enhance long-term water availability

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in two key areas of town. The study was

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prompted uh in part by drought

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conditions several over the last several

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years and concerns regarding uh private

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well capacity and particularly within

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the village center area and the beach

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pond area. Um we pursued and received a

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community infrastructure fund grant from

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the state of Connecticut department of

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economic and community development. This

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was a $250,000

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um planning and engineering study that

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was fully funded by the state. no

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municipal finances were required or

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involved. Um, as part of this effort,

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the town conducted hydrogeeologic

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investigations. Uh, we installed and

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monitor observation wells and we

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performed water quality testing at

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several potential water source

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locations. Um, in the village center,

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which study was is basically getting

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wrapped up now. Um, the observation

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wells showed uh promising groundwater

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availability in terms of pure flow.

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for um detected levels of manganesees

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and POS. Um we are still undergoing

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hydro uh geological investigations at

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Beach Pond uh to determine if a viable

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water source exists. We received

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preliminary findings again on the

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village center um system. Um, while a a

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water system may be technically feasible

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in the village center, meaning that we

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have enough water for a community water

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system, the capital costs that would be

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associated with developing um a

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permanent uh public water system uh

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supply system in the village area

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appears to be prohibitively expensive

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for the town to take on. Um and and you

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know so as a result of this this expense

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um the pursuing a public water system in

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the village center does not appear to be

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a practical investment for the town

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unless significant and we mean

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significant outside funding was

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available for implementation. Um so at

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this time town leadership has decided

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not to pursue any additional funding for

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the village center component. Um we will

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be having uh we we again as I said we

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are not done with the beach pond study.

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When that study is wrapped up we will

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provide uh additional public information

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at that time when that component of the

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study um comp concludes. I'd also just

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like to note um that we have we have

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been maintaining a uh a page on our

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community website the town website uh

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providing updates on the water system

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study. So people can people can check in

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on that. But again the the bottom line

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is the first phase of this study

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focusing on village center revealed

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sufficient water but the capital costs

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for implementation were were deemed too

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high and we will not be pursuing further

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um uh you know studies or or engineering

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along this this line in the village. So

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happy to answer any questions that

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people may have.

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» John, how much was the significant

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capital cost for us to go further with

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this study? Um, yeah, it was it was in

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the range of uh 15 to $18 million

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» To basically stand up the the system.

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» Thank you.

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» A lot of that I mean a lot of that you

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know infrastructure is expensive but a

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lot of that had to deal with uh you know

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building out water treatment capacity

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and and storage and and that sort of

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thing.

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Who would maintain something like that?

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I think there would be a reoccurring

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flaw.

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» It would be maintained most likely

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again if we were to consider something

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like that. And I want to reiterate at

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this time we are not. Um it would be

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maintained by the Connecticut Water

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Company who is designated by the

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Department of Public Health to be the

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exclusive service provider for public

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water systems in this municipality.

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So we we could essentially build it and

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then turn it over to Connecticut water

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to maintain.

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So similar there is there is a small

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water system out near Beach Pond um

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Tangle Wood a couple of roads over there

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that is a small community system

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maintained by Connecticut Water

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» And those residents receive a bill from

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Connecticut Water. Correct.

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» Precisely as as they would for any other

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utility. So that's not a reoccurring

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budget line item

327
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» On the town. No, but it would then be

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anyone connected to it would get a war a

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monthly water.

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» Pretty big [clears throat] amount of

331
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money to put out,

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» Which is why we have chosen at this time

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to not

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» You wouldn't get any return on it.

335
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» It's well a public water system is not

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intended to be a money-making operation.

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It's a utility,

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» Right? It's

339
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the reason why we even looked at this

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originally was because of the

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possibility of future economic

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development and growth in the town

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center. Um some of the mandates from the

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state around um changing zoning so that

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um we could change from single family

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dwellings to multif family dwellings in

347
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town center. Um, but with that sort of

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cost,

349
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that's a oh no, because right now it's

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cost the town nothing to do the study.

351
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» Right. Right. Right. Right.

352
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» So, and we've gotten an answer out of

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the study on the village center. We'll

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get an answer on Beach Pond. So, we'll

355
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talk about that when that happens. But

356
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» That would have to be a real good will,

357
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right?

358
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Exactly. What area of the beach are you

359
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talking about?

360
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» Um John,

361
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» Yeah, it's it's basically basically the

362
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[clears throat] Bennett Road, Bennett

363
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Circle area,

364
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» The the the properties. Um, and I mean

365
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we I think we may expand uh expand just

366
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the the um cost estimates to the

367
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northshore of Beach Pond also, but the

368
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initial study was intended to be

369
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basically the the the Bennett Road,

370
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Bennett Circle area, you know, the areas

371
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just immediately south of the pond

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itself,

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the high, you know, the area of highest

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residential density.

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» And it's not an area where you can bring

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in multif family homes. I mean,

377
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everything's stacked in there. Well, in

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in the Beach Pond area, the idea there

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is recognizing that the the properties

380
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are developed at at quite an a a a high

381
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density. Um those are seasonal cottages

382
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that have gradually and continue to be

383
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converted from seasonal, you know,

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one-bedroom, two-bedroom cottages to

385
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three, four, fivebedroom year-round

386
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houses

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um that that have a significantly higher

388
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water demand and more importantly

389
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require by public health code

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significant separation distances between

391
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water systems and septic systems. So

392
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that sign that that that that uh public

393
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health code significantly um hinders

394
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people's ability to essentially build

395
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out their property and invest in their

396
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property uh making improvements and

397
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frankly making their properties more

398
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valuable in a way that is you know good

399
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for the town's grand list. Um and so

400
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because of public health limitations,

401
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you know, sometimes those building

402
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expansions are h h h h h h h h h h h h h

403
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h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h

404
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h h h h h h h hindered. And so the idea

405
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is if we can bring in public water, we

406
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can reduce the separation distance

407
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burden and and allow people to develop

408
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at a a more robust level

409
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properties that you could do that with.

410
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» I'm sorry.

411
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» Do you have a count number of properties

412
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that could possibly do that? We didn't

413
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do a property bypropy analysis. We just

414
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basically drew a circle around the

415
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highest density of residential

416
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properties and said these would be the

417
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ones that would be included in a public

418
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water system study. Again, this is just

419
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a planning exercise.

420
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» So that's two separate systems,

421
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» A system and a pond system.

422
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» Correct. And so we we've completed the

423
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the research on the village system. the

424
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beach pond system is is you know another

425
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six weeks behind

426
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» Any additional questions

427
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I ask question did the town ever look at

428
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um

429
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the opposite situation where you

430
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provided a mutual septic tank instead

431
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instead of dealing with the well issue

432
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because um

433
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that also has a separate things

434
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» Going on.

435
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» Sure. So we did we did at the initial

436
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planning stages uh consider that I mean

437
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so you know if you're looking to do a

438
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some sort of public infrastructure

439
00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:27,200
system either a public water system or a

440
00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:30,480
public sewer system either of those

441
00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:33,440
would help alleviate the uh development

442
00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:36,880
constraints. However in very broad

443
00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:38,640
strokes a sewer system is an order of

444
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magnitude more expensive than a public

445
00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:43,200
water system. Um because you not only

446
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have to do all the pipes that you would

447
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for a water system, you also have to

448
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build a water treatment facility um a

449
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sewer plant and and so you know whereas

450
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in in rough numbers you know if if uh a

451
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water system in the village is going to

452
00:19:54,960 --> 00:20:01,280
cost us $15 million, a sewer plant would

453
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cost us $75 million. Like and so we you

454
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know knowing knowing those those just

455
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how expensive

456
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» Sewer treatment is versus water.

457
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:14,480
» Yeah. versus a a larger septic system

458
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which would be pumped out which the

459
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homeowners could pay a fee to have have

460
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maintained and pumped out every year.

461
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Not

462
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» Sure. And so a community

463
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» Not a whole full-blown sewer system,

464
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» Right? There's there Yes, we could we

465
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could look at I mean that is something

466
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that could be looked at a community

467
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waste comm basically a community septic

468
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system like a um that would be certainly

469
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cheaper than a full-blown sewer system

470
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but it's its size constraints would be

471
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quite low compared to I mean even the

472
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number of houses there right now you you

473
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wouldn't be able to get that number of

474
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houses on a you know a traditional

475
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community system, even if you had, you

476
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know, a bunch of acres for a, you know,

477
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a perfectly designed septic leech field.

478
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Not that you've got the the space, you

479
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know, I don't know where down there you

480
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would be able to size a leech field that

481
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big. Um, but yeah, I mean, that's that's

482
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a consideration. Not, you know, falling

483
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short of a full sewer plant. Yes. Um,

484
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but we we just didn't see that as

485
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feasible for the the type of study we

486
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wanted to do with this money at this

487
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time. That could could be something we

488
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look at in the future. And then the only

489
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other question is a zoning question

490
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where a lot of towns if someone owns a

491
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small lot which can't be

492
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um built on because it's too small or

493
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they don't have the room for another

494
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well or another septic system but they

495
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own an adjacent adjacent lot and want to

496
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upgrade their property. There's some

497
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towns that require that the homeowner

498
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combined the lots to make the lot more

499
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conforming.

500
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» Is that a question or a statement?

501
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:10,880
» No, that's one way of alleviating um too

502
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:12,960
much buildup of the pond because you

503
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still people building up and adding

504
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bathrooms and adding all this stuff.

505
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» [clears throat]

506
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» You still have se you're still close to

507
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the pond and so you still have leech

508
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:26,080
leeching water that goes down to the

509
00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:30,159
pond because everything just about on

510
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:32,240
that pond is uphill from the pond. So if

511
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you're building bigger houses with

512
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bigger bathrooms, going from cottages to

513
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full-blown houses that are twostory or

514
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,520
threetory,

515
00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:46,000
five, you know, five bedrooms and four

516
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:49,039
bathrooms or whatever it is, you're

517
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:52,159
adding beach water into the pond, which

518
00:22:49,039 --> 00:22:54,880
is a big concern because

519
00:22:52,159 --> 00:22:56,880
um this is

520
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,159
the quality of the water. Pretty sure

521
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,760
everything down there pretty much is

522
00:22:58,159 --> 00:23:01,039
engineered septic now if you're building

523
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,760
the doors or something.

524
00:23:01,039 --> 00:23:04,400
» There's a lot of smaller cottages that

525
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,600
are not.

526
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,080
» Yeah, but you're not going from a

527
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,360
onebedroom to a fivebedroom without any

528
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:13,120
septic. I don't

529
00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:15,520
» No, you're not. But but some people we

530
00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:18,000
did it. We went up, but we still

531
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:20,559
maintained it was a threebedroom.

532
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:23,360
We maintain the three bedroomedroom, but

533
00:23:20,559 --> 00:23:27,559
there are some places that are smaller,

534
00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:27,559
a smaller lot and

535
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,480
some with old septic systems. I don't

536
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:35,360
know if you've ever seen soap suds that

537
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:37,280
run along the pond.

538
00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:40,320
» Yeah.

539
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:42,640
Every weekend.

540
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:45,120
Just it's just what do you want? Do you

541
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:47,200
want more development? Do you want the

542
00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:49,120
houses to be worth more? just want

543
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:52,320
people to be able to maintain their

544
00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:56,240
houses or do you want the pond to have

545
00:23:52,320 --> 00:24:00,960
maintain its quality of water

546
00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:04,960
um in the long term because of um tax

547
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:06,720
dollars down there and tourism and all

548
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,559
the fun people have down there in the

549
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:11,200
summer fun

550
00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:14,480
or is it just benefiting a few people

551
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:17,960
for all this money? We want all of the

552
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,960
above for Nevada.

553
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,240
» Great.

554
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:26,960
» All right. So, John, since I got you on

555
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:29,520
uh we got the proposed proposed

556
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,320
extinguishment of the second Oh, there

557
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,400
was one more question.

558
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,840
» Yeah. I I want this just one thing about

559
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,919
the water the water system. I know it's

560
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,520
all preliminary and I know the engineers

561
00:24:35,919 --> 00:24:38,880
and all probably looked at this. I

562
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,559
looked at a lot of the paperwork, a lot

563
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,480
of the first study that was done, what

564
00:24:40,559 --> 00:24:43,840
was available in the least. One thing I

565
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,720
didn't see in there take into account

566
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:49,600
and I know the city chiefs the study is

567
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:52,080
uh up in Massachusetts a lot of towns

568
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:54,799
went through the same problem uh over

569
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:57,440
the decades and they put city water in

570
00:24:54,799 --> 00:24:59,600
to solve a lot of the problems. In 20

571
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,279
years they have more problems because

572
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,840
you have to take into account when you

573
00:25:01,279 --> 00:25:05,440
pump water out to different locations

574
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,720
you have to raise the water table six

575
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:10,320
feet in a town and all the septics fail

576
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,760
because

577
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,480
you're pumping water to all these

578
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,760
locations. So the hydra all hydrarology

579
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,000
and everything else has to take into

580
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,760
account theoretically all that water

581
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,320
being put to a different location in

582
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:25,679
this. understand we ended up paying $50

583
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:27,919
million for the septic system for the uh

584
00:25:25,679 --> 00:25:30,480
sewer. Lucky though you're next to a

585
00:25:27,919 --> 00:25:33,039
large city. So a large city took the

586
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:36,400
treatment. So we don't have a large city

587
00:25:33,039 --> 00:25:38,159
nearby to pipe it to. So that's just

588
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,559
something I just didn't see in in the

589
00:25:38,159 --> 00:25:42,799
study. I just chiming in from what what

590
00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:45,279
I've seen is that that hit me in the

591
00:25:42,799 --> 00:25:48,640
pocket quite hard when that when that

592
00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:51,120
happened in North Dakota. So got very

593
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:53,919
very expensive to to connect because we

594
00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:55,919
have a bond that would be just pointing

595
00:25:53,919 --> 00:25:58,640
that out.

596
00:25:55,919 --> 00:26:01,039
» Thank you.

597
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,919
» John, you still there?

598
00:26:01,039 --> 00:26:04,960
» I am.

599
00:26:01,919 --> 00:26:10,840
» Okay. Uh a proposed extinguishment of

600
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:10,840
the town's right away to Old Econ Road.

601
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:22,000
Um what where did we come up with that?

602
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:25,120
Um that was a request uh made by um a

603
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:27,600
Butters uh on Old Econ Road folks that

604
00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:29,520
basically have an old road rightway

605
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,440
still under the control and ownership of

606
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,880
the municipality

607
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,840
um that was sort of handed over to the

608
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:38,320
town when the state rebuilt 49 and

609
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:41,039
rerouted it. there's a little eyebrow of

610
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:43,440
a road that basically runs through a

611
00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:45,919
couple of people's backyards. and they

612
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:48,559
made the inquiry and request um that

613
00:26:45,919 --> 00:26:51,200
since the town clearly does not use nor

614
00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:53,440
need this that it be formally

615
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,200
extinguished and the the legal term is

616
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,600
discontinued

617
00:26:55,200 --> 00:27:00,880
um so that the town can divest itself of

618
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:03,919
that property um which it does not use

619
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:06,799
nor need nor need the liability on um

620
00:27:03,919 --> 00:27:08,400
and basically hand it off to the uh

621
00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:11,039
abuing property owners so that they can

622
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:13,919
own it in fee simple. Um, this was the

623
00:27:11,039 --> 00:27:15,919
request made. Um, the board of selectmen

624
00:27:13,919 --> 00:27:18,000
considered this and referred it to the

625
00:27:15,919 --> 00:27:21,120
planning and zoning commission for

626
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:23,039
what's referred to as an 824 referral.

627
00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:25,200
Um, referencing Connecticut General

628
00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:26,880
Statute section 8-24.

629
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,760
Um, the planning and zoning commission

630
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,520
determined that this um extinguishment

631
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,320
of the road uh formally through

632
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:36,240
discontinuation was appropriate and was

633
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,559
in keeping with the goals of the plan of

634
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,559
conservation and development. um they

635
00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:44,080
encourage the selectman to move forward

636
00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:46,559
on it. And um in order to do so uh if

637
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:50,159
the selectman wish to continue, the

638
00:27:46,559 --> 00:27:52,559
selectmen need to um schedule a town

639
00:27:50,159 --> 00:27:56,159
meeting to formally

640
00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:58,000
um vote to discontinue the road. Uh and

641
00:27:56,159 --> 00:28:00,399
there are some you know legal

642
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,720
notifications in the newspaper, legal

643
00:28:00,399 --> 00:28:05,679
notifications to the abutters as well as

644
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:09,840
signage posted to properly notify the

645
00:28:05,679 --> 00:28:11,760
municipality of its intent. Um but that

646
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:14,960
this would be basically a formal action

647
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:17,039
requiring a majority town meeting vote

648
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:19,919
uh essentially to extinguish and say the

649
00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:25,080
town no longer has interest legal

650
00:28:19,919 --> 00:28:25,080
interest in uh this right of way.

651
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:45,000
All right. So, how's um September 22nd

652
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:45,000
for a town meeting for this?

653
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,320
» John, does that give us enough time at

654
00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:50,799
60 days from tonight?

655
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:55,919
» Yeah. Yeah. you basically need um to

656
00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:58,399
notify a Butters uh 30 days prior um and

657
00:28:55,919 --> 00:28:59,760
post assigned 30 days prior and then you

658
00:28:58,399 --> 00:29:01,440
know you need to because it's a town

659
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:04,240
meeting you need to legally notice it in

660
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:06,399
the paper um twice ahead of time at

661
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:10,360
least 15 days. So yes, two months out

662
00:29:06,399 --> 00:29:10,360
gives you plenty of time.

663
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:17,360
I make a motion that we set a the town

664
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:21,039
meeting for the uh discontinuence of Old

665
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:24,559
Econ Road under an 824 referral to

666
00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:26,000
September 22nd, 2026.

667
00:29:24,559 --> 00:29:29,000
» All in favor?

668
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,000
» I

669
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,200
have a 22nd town meeting.

670
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:37,480
» Yep.

671
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,480
At 7 p.m.

672
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:45,640
here

673
00:29:42,159 --> 00:29:45,640
at town hall.

674
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:57,200
Thanks, John.

675
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,520
» Okay, thanks folks.

676
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,120
Okay,

677
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,840
» Next the chip ceiling guys are supposed

678
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:04,159
to be here. Are they here?

679
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:08,399
» They did not show up, so we can't talk

680
00:30:04,159 --> 00:30:08,399
to them, which is great.

681
00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:15,520
Uh, let's do tax movement.

682
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,080
We talked about the chips dealing with

683
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:21,440
that. I'm I I'll talk with the guys.

684
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:25,679
I'll talk why they're not here tonight.

685
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:26,640
So, that's not but but the company was

686
00:30:25,679 --> 00:30:31,480
supposed to be here tonight. The

687
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,480
representatives of the company and

688
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,880
maybe the weather. There's

689
00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:37,360
» A miscommunication on the time I just

690
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:39,440
dropped on. And they think the meeting

691
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:43,480
is at 7,

692
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,480
but they should be on their way.

693
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:49,480
They didn't know the meeting was 6. They

694
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,480
thought it was seven. Okay, hold on.

695
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:57,120
» Let's reschedu with them.

696
00:30:54,399 --> 00:30:58,240
» Oh, the 22nd with them, too.

697
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,320
You want to do that?

698
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,240
» Add them to September 22nd.

699
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,480
» Okay. Okay.

700
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,520
» Was this a town meeting or a selectman's

701
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,080
meeting?

702
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,120
» Public hearing.

703
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,080
» Public hearing.

704
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,559
» What does it say on the new board up

705
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,399
there?

706
00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:13,840
» Says on the website.

707
00:31:12,399 --> 00:31:14,240
» What does No. What does it say? Town

708
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,320
meeting.

709
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,919
» Public hearing.

710
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:21,360
» It says town meeting on the board. That

711
00:31:17,919 --> 00:31:23,039
That is a mistake that we fully take

712
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,279
responsibility for and acknowledge. But

713
00:31:23,039 --> 00:31:27,120
this is a public hearing. The newspaper

714
00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:30,880
and the town website stated it was just

715
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:32,320
the board that was the mistake.

716
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,080
And that's the one that doesn't have a

717
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,399
legal requirements. Not trying to get

718
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,159
out of anything, but that's then don't

719
00:31:36,399 --> 00:31:40,000
try and get out of it. No, we're not

720
00:31:38,159 --> 00:31:42,559
trying to get out of it. We We take the

721
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,000
hit.

722
00:31:42,559 --> 00:31:45,039
» Doors are always open. You want to come

723
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,799
in, talk, whatever.

724
00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:49,360
» Well, no. I I read it.

725
00:31:46,799 --> 00:31:53,760
» Yep. I'm going to stay.

726
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:56,080
» Oh, okay. That's fair.

727
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:58,240
» All right. Uh, let's do the Where do we

728
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,519
have three more?

729
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,519
Four.

730
00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:02,519
Yeah.

731
00:32:06,159 --> 00:32:15,559
First one

732
00:32:08,399 --> 00:32:15,559
is for Robert Engel Jr. for 3145

733
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,720
11:45.

734
00:32:21,919 --> 00:32:28,360
Second one is for Toyota lease trust for

735
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,360
19730.

736
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:38,799
Third one is for

737
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:41,799
Sean Douly founding road volunt 40 52

738
00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:41,799
$4052

739
00:32:41,919 --> 00:32:49,679
and the last one Donna stole of condon

740
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:52,320
road and that one is $4488.

741
00:32:49,679 --> 00:32:55,200
I make a motion to issue tax refunds as

742
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,840
recommended by the tax collector.

743
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,960
» Second.

744
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,960
» All in favor? Hi,

745
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,679
Make them.