[0:09] You guys got to come down.
[0:15] » No, I know.
[0:32] 602 and uh public hearing no start.
[0:37] First we'll do the pledge of allegiance
[0:44] to the flag of the United States of
[0:46] America and to the republic for which it
[0:49] stands. One nation under God,
[0:53] indivisible, with liberty and justice
[0:55] for all.
[1:01] » First, we'll have uh citizens comments.
[1:04] Any citizen comments?
[1:08] Are we
[1:09] talking about what you just did on your
[1:11] bucket or
[1:13] » Talk about anything? Now's the time.
[1:17] Is is this a selective meeting or a town
[1:20] meeting?
[1:20] » This is a public hearing.
[1:25] » David Lamach school
[1:30] for the chip seal on it come out pretty
[1:33] nice.
[1:35] I just had a a couple of questions.
[1:39] First one is
[1:42] roads selected
[1:45] to be taken care of.
[1:47] When you when you're looking at your
[1:49] budget
[1:51] or how much
[1:54] you can do,
[1:57] who makes the determination on what
[1:59] needs to be done?
[2:01] The determination comes from
[2:05] I public works. what roads are more
[2:09] grave than others with this with the ch
[2:11] some some of the roads can't be chips
[2:13] some of them are just they need to be
[2:15] replaced so they they figure out what
[2:18] roads could you like they start with
[2:21] then they'll go to um brown or wherever
[2:26] » Well can I jump in here we also have the
[2:29] contract with Beta which did a scan of
[2:32] all 37.2 2 miles of town road and they
[2:36] gave us recommendations for maintenance
[2:39] for each road and a schedule and that's
[2:42] what public works is using to make their
[2:44] decisions. So it's not just we're
[2:46] randomly picking roads. It's we have
[2:48] data that was collected because data
[2:50] drove around with trucks and they
[2:52] scanned all the roads to get road
[2:53] conditions and then they gave
[2:55] recommendations on whether it was a chip
[2:57] seal, whether it was a full replacement,
[2:59] all that sort of stuff. There was a host
[3:01] of things that they gave us. Okay.
[3:04] So, if we remember back last year at the
[3:09] town meeting that
[3:12] got cops involved
[3:15] and
[3:17] over a lot of voicing over Williams
[3:20] throat over there off of Brown
[3:24] and Kentucky was supposed to be chip
[3:27] sealed last year,
[3:30] but apparently they went over and did a
[3:33] pave job
[3:35] on Williams.
[3:37] » So the reason why Shitucket wasn't done
[3:39] last year wasn't a change in priorities.
[3:42] It was due to weather. So they ran out
[3:44] of time due to weather on what they
[3:47] » Time to do Williams.
[3:51] They were assigned to Williams
[3:55] » And I don't when they were crack sealing
[3:59] and it got 90 degrees,
[4:02] you undercoated everybody's car.
[4:05] The stuff was running down the road.
[4:08] » Yeah, I had a few people calling about
[4:10] that. So, we uh we had the chip ceiling
[4:13] company here tonight. I think
[4:17] they're going to show up. They were
[4:18] supposed to be here. So,
[4:21] So my second question is
[4:25] when are you going to finish the reps of
[4:28] from school that horse?
[4:35] » I don't know if that was on the plan. Do
[4:37] you Ryan?
[4:38] » Really?
[4:39] It's on the plan. Um,
[4:42] Kentucky and
[4:47] not Valley.
[4:49] Ron, what's your road? Where is it?
[4:52] » James.
[4:53] » James Road.
[4:53] » He's on James Road.
[4:55] » James Road. So, they were doing
[4:57] Satucket, James Road, and I think
[5:00] » Where the chip seal.
[5:02] » Yeah.
[5:02] » But Shitucket from Wley School at a
[5:07] farest
[5:09] » The back end. You can't just chip seal
[5:11] that.
[5:13] » Is that Is that
[5:15] okay? I know what you're saying now.
[5:17] » You know where I mean?
[5:18] » Yeah. Don't to the dead end.
[5:20] » Yeah.
[5:21] » A dead end back there. Yeah.
[5:22] » Dirty ch
[5:25] » Um I mean I'll have to find out about
[5:27] that.
[5:29] » Have you driven it?
[5:30] » I driven. It's not great. I'm going to
[5:33] agree. Not good. So,
[5:37] » I'm just curious where it fits in.
[5:40] » Right. And I I'll I'll get to the bottom
[5:43] of that and ask him why. But
[5:48] » The other one he got done was that was
[5:49] just as bad.
[5:54] » Right.
[5:55] Quickly,
[5:56] » Right?
[6:01] I will make that a note and I'll talk
[6:06] to the chip steelers if they're here
[6:07] tonight about it and then if not then
[6:09] I'll talk to
[6:10] » That's complete rebuild.
[6:12] » Yeah.
[6:16] » Oh yeah.
[6:19] » A rebuild's a little tougher than just
[6:21] chips.
[6:22] » But so wasn't the other one off of
[6:24] Brown,
[6:25] » Right?
[6:25] » That was rebuilt off.
[6:26] » It wasn't rebuilt. It was just hard.
[6:28] » Yeah. Well, okay. It was just part over,
[6:33] but it was just as bad a shape as the
[6:36] rest is.
[6:38] » That's the thing.
[6:39] » Well, it's a lot better than it was.
[6:46] » We will figure that one out. We'll we'll
[6:48] try to figure that one out. And that's
[6:50] just like any other road in Ventown. We
[6:52] got to look at it, process, and what we
[6:55] can afford. Okay. At one one time, one
[6:58] of the
[7:00] past selectman
[7:02] I thought to him about it
[7:05] said, "Well, there's only one house down
[7:07] there."
[7:09] That was the wrong answer.
[7:11] » Did you hear me say that?
[7:12] » No.
[7:15] » No.
[7:16] Every road's a road here. Whether it's
[7:18] one house on the road, whether it's 30,
[7:20] » Right?
[7:21] » We I look at it the same. though and and
[7:24] you drive around Vent Town and some of
[7:26] these roads are not good at all. So, I
[7:29] mean it's tough to like we can say that
[7:32] and we can put Gallop on there and we
[7:34] can put Kenny on there and we can put
[7:36] you know a ton of them on there too.
[7:38] » Oh yeah.
[7:38] » So
[7:40] there's a lot of work involved if we had
[7:43] the money be great. I wish I could call
[7:46] and say, "Well, we're going to do this
[7:47] one this year. We'll do that one next
[7:49] year or two those two next year." But,
[7:53] you know,
[7:54] » Well, you can put in your strong
[7:55] reputation,
[7:56] » Right?
[8:04] Anybody else?
[8:11] » Hey, John.
[8:13] » Yeah. Um, not messing with the TV
[8:16] because it's still working. Everybody
[8:17] can see fine. But John here,
[8:19] » Uh, new business
[8:22] first part is the water study findings.
[8:24] John, you there?
[8:27] » John?
[8:28] » I am here. Can you hear me?
[8:32] » Can you guys hear me?
[8:36] » He shouldn't come through the TV. He
[8:37] should be coming here.
[8:50] Can you hear us?
[8:52] » I can. Yes. And I can see Brian and Sue.
[8:57] » Okay.
[8:59] Okay. You're on the laptop. Give us a
[9:01] second, John. We'll get you.
[9:02] » Okay. Yeah. Take your time.
[9:09] Is the plug coming out from the garbage
[9:11] can on the wall over there?
[9:13] » Oh, yeah. I can see.
[9:17] » Well,
[9:21] thanks, Tracy.
[9:28] [laughter]
[9:29] » All right.
[9:35] » Can you guys hear me now?
[9:37] » Perfect. Yes.
[9:40] Okay. Um, so for the record, I'm John
[9:43] Gusowski. I'm the town's uh consulting
[9:45] planning director. Um, I've been uh
[9:49] project managing the community water
[9:52] system study. Um, just have a brief
[9:56] statement about the the current status.
[9:59] Um, the town of Volunttown community
[10:02] water system study was initiated to
[10:04] evaluate whether a public water system
[10:07] could address recurring well reliability
[10:10] concerns, support future development,
[10:12] and enhance long-term water availability
[10:15] in two key areas of town. The study was
[10:18] prompted uh in part by drought
[10:21] conditions several over the last several
[10:23] years and concerns regarding uh private
[10:26] well capacity and particularly within
[10:28] the village center area and the beach
[10:30] pond area. Um we pursued and received a
[10:35] community infrastructure fund grant from
[10:37] the state of Connecticut department of
[10:38] economic and community development. This
[10:40] was a $250,000
[10:43] um planning and engineering study that
[10:45] was fully funded by the state. no
[10:47] municipal finances were required or
[10:50] involved. Um, as part of this effort,
[10:53] the town conducted hydrogeeologic
[10:55] investigations. Uh, we installed and
[10:58] monitor observation wells and we
[10:59] performed water quality testing at
[11:01] several potential water source
[11:03] locations. Um, in the village center,
[11:06] which study was is basically getting
[11:08] wrapped up now. Um, the observation
[11:10] wells showed uh promising groundwater
[11:12] availability in terms of pure flow.
[11:15] However, there was a need for treatment
[11:17] for um detected levels of manganesees
[11:19] and POS. Um we are still undergoing
[11:22] hydro uh geological investigations at
[11:24] Beach Pond uh to determine if a viable
[11:27] water source exists. We received
[11:30] preliminary findings again on the
[11:32] village center um system. Um, while a a
[11:36] water system may be technically feasible
[11:39] in the village center, meaning that we
[11:41] have enough water for a community water
[11:42] system, the capital costs that would be
[11:45] associated with developing um a
[11:48] permanent uh public water system uh
[11:51] supply system in the village area
[11:53] appears to be prohibitively expensive
[11:55] for the town to take on. Um and and you
[11:59] know so as a result of this this expense
[12:03] um the pursuing a public water system in
[12:06] the village center does not appear to be
[12:08] a practical investment for the town
[12:10] unless significant and we mean
[12:12] significant outside funding was
[12:14] available for implementation. Um so at
[12:17] this time town leadership has decided
[12:18] not to pursue any additional funding for
[12:21] the village center component. Um we will
[12:24] be having uh we we again as I said we
[12:26] are not done with the beach pond study.
[12:28] When that study is wrapped up we will
[12:31] provide uh additional public information
[12:32] at that time when that component of the
[12:35] study um comp concludes. I'd also just
[12:38] like to note um that we have we have
[12:40] been maintaining a uh a page on our
[12:44] community website the town website uh
[12:46] providing updates on the water system
[12:48] study. So people can people can check in
[12:50] on that. But again the the bottom line
[12:52] is the first phase of this study
[12:55] focusing on village center revealed
[12:58] sufficient water but the capital costs
[13:00] for implementation were were deemed too
[13:02] high and we will not be pursuing further
[13:05] um uh you know studies or or engineering
[13:08] along this this line in the village. So
[13:11] happy to answer any questions that
[13:12] people may have.
[13:15] » John, how much was the significant
[13:17] capital cost for us to go further with
[13:19] this study? Um, yeah, it was it was in
[13:22] the range of uh 15 to $18 million
[13:26] » To basically stand up the the system.
[13:30] » Thank you.
[13:36] » A lot of that I mean a lot of that you
[13:38] know infrastructure is expensive but a
[13:40] lot of that had to deal with uh you know
[13:42] building out water treatment capacity
[13:44] and and storage and and that sort of
[13:46] thing.
[13:48] Who would maintain something like that?
[13:51] I think there would be a reoccurring
[13:52] flaw.
[13:53] » It would be maintained most likely
[13:56] again if we were to consider something
[13:58] like that. And I want to reiterate at
[13:59] this time we are not. Um it would be
[14:02] maintained by the Connecticut Water
[14:04] Company who is designated by the
[14:07] Department of Public Health to be the
[14:08] exclusive service provider for public
[14:10] water systems in this municipality.
[14:13] So we we could essentially build it and
[14:16] then turn it over to Connecticut water
[14:17] to maintain.
[14:21] So similar there is there is a small
[14:22] water system out near Beach Pond um
[14:25] Tangle Wood a couple of roads over there
[14:27] that is a small community system
[14:28] maintained by Connecticut Water
[14:33] » And those residents receive a bill from
[14:35] Connecticut Water. Correct.
[14:36] » Precisely as as they would for any other
[14:38] utility. So that's not a reoccurring
[14:42] budget line item
[14:43] » On the town. No, but it would then be
[14:45] anyone connected to it would get a war a
[14:47] monthly water.
[14:50] » Pretty big [clears throat] amount of
[14:51] money to put out,
[14:53] » Which is why we have chosen at this time
[14:55] to not
[14:57] » You wouldn't get any return on it.
[14:59] » It's well a public water system is not
[15:01] intended to be a money-making operation.
[15:03] It's a utility,
[15:06] » Right? It's
[15:08] the reason why we even looked at this
[15:10] originally was because of the
[15:12] possibility of future economic
[15:15] development and growth in the town
[15:16] center. Um some of the mandates from the
[15:19] state around um changing zoning so that
[15:23] um we could change from single family
[15:25] dwellings to multif family dwellings in
[15:27] town center. Um, but with that sort of
[15:30] cost,
[15:31] that's a oh no, because right now it's
[15:34] cost the town nothing to do the study.
[15:36] » Right. Right. Right. Right.
[15:38] » So, and we've gotten an answer out of
[15:39] the study on the village center. We'll
[15:42] get an answer on Beach Pond. So, we'll
[15:45] talk about that when that happens. But
[15:48] » That would have to be a real good will,
[15:55] right?
[15:57] Exactly. What area of the beach are you
[16:01] talking about?
[16:03] » Um John,
[16:05] » Yeah, it's it's basically basically the
[16:08] [clears throat] Bennett Road, Bennett
[16:09] Circle area,
[16:10] » The the the properties. Um, and I mean
[16:12] we I think we may expand uh expand just
[16:16] the the um cost estimates to the
[16:20] northshore of Beach Pond also, but the
[16:23] initial study was intended to be
[16:25] basically the the the Bennett Road,
[16:27] Bennett Circle area, you know, the areas
[16:29] just immediately south of the pond
[16:31] itself,
[16:33] the high, you know, the area of highest
[16:34] residential density.
[16:36] » And it's not an area where you can bring
[16:38] in multif family homes. I mean,
[16:39] everything's stacked in there. Well, in
[16:41] in the Beach Pond area, the idea there
[16:44] is recognizing that the the properties
[16:46] are developed at at quite an a a a high
[16:50] density. Um those are seasonal cottages
[16:54] that have gradually and continue to be
[16:56] converted from seasonal, you know,
[16:58] one-bedroom, two-bedroom cottages to
[17:01] three, four, fivebedroom year-round
[17:03] houses
[17:04] um that that have a significantly higher
[17:07] water demand and more importantly
[17:09] require by public health code
[17:11] significant separation distances between
[17:13] water systems and septic systems. So
[17:17] that sign that that that that uh public
[17:19] health code significantly um hinders
[17:23] people's ability to essentially build
[17:25] out their property and invest in their
[17:27] property uh making improvements and
[17:29] frankly making their properties more
[17:31] valuable in a way that is you know good
[17:33] for the town's grand list. Um and so
[17:36] because of public health limitations,
[17:39] you know, sometimes those building
[17:40] expansions are h h h h h h h h h h h h h
[17:42] h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h
[17:42] h h h h h h h hindered. And so the idea
[17:43] is if we can bring in public water, we
[17:46] can reduce the separation distance
[17:48] burden and and allow people to develop
[17:50] at a a more robust level
[17:56] properties that you could do that with.
[17:58] » I'm sorry.
[17:59] » Do you have a count number of properties
[18:02] that could possibly do that? We didn't
[18:04] do a property bypropy analysis. We just
[18:07] basically drew a circle around the
[18:09] highest density of residential
[18:12] properties and said these would be the
[18:13] ones that would be included in a public
[18:15] water system study. Again, this is just
[18:18] a planning exercise.
[18:22] » So that's two separate systems,
[18:25] » A system and a pond system.
[18:27] » Correct. And so we we've completed the
[18:29] the research on the village system. the
[18:31] beach pond system is is you know another
[18:33] six weeks behind
[18:45] » Any additional questions
[18:48] I ask question did the town ever look at
[18:51] um
[18:53] the opposite situation where you
[18:56] provided a mutual septic tank instead
[19:00] instead of dealing with the well issue
[19:03] because um
[19:06] that also has a separate things
[19:09] » Going on.
[19:11] » Sure. So we did we did at the initial
[19:14] planning stages uh consider that I mean
[19:18] so you know if you're looking to do a
[19:20] some sort of public infrastructure
[19:22] system either a public water system or a
[19:24] public sewer system either of those
[19:27] would help alleviate the uh development
[19:30] constraints. However in very broad
[19:33] strokes a sewer system is an order of
[19:36] magnitude more expensive than a public
[19:38] water system. Um because you not only
[19:41] have to do all the pipes that you would
[19:43] for a water system, you also have to
[19:44] build a water treatment facility um a
[19:47] sewer plant and and so you know whereas
[19:50] in in rough numbers you know if if uh a
[19:53] water system in the village is going to
[19:54] cost us $15 million, a sewer plant would
[19:58] cost us $75 million. Like and so we you
[20:01] know knowing knowing those those just
[20:03] how expensive
[20:05] » Sewer treatment is versus water.
[20:07] » Yeah. versus a a larger septic system
[20:12] which would be pumped out which the
[20:14] homeowners could pay a fee to have have
[20:18] maintained and pumped out every year.
[20:20] Not
[20:21] » Sure. And so a community
[20:23] » Not a whole full-blown sewer system,
[20:25] » Right? There's there Yes, we could we
[20:28] could look at I mean that is something
[20:29] that could be looked at a community
[20:32] waste comm basically a community septic
[20:34] system like a um that would be certainly
[20:38] cheaper than a full-blown sewer system
[20:40] but it's its size constraints would be
[20:45] quite low compared to I mean even the
[20:48] number of houses there right now you you
[20:50] wouldn't be able to get that number of
[20:53] houses on a you know a traditional
[20:56] community system, even if you had, you
[20:58] know, a bunch of acres for a, you know,
[21:01] a perfectly designed septic leech field.
[21:04] Not that you've got the the space, you
[21:08] know, I don't know where down there you
[21:09] would be able to size a leech field that
[21:12] big. Um, but yeah, I mean, that's that's
[21:15] a consideration. Not, you know, falling
[21:18] short of a full sewer plant. Yes. Um,
[21:22] but we we just didn't see that as
[21:24] feasible for the the type of study we
[21:27] wanted to do with this money at this
[21:28] time. That could could be something we
[21:29] look at in the future. And then the only
[21:31] other question is a zoning question
[21:33] where a lot of towns if someone owns a
[21:37] small lot which can't be
[21:40] um built on because it's too small or
[21:43] they don't have the room for another
[21:44] well or another septic system but they
[21:47] own an adjacent adjacent lot and want to
[21:51] upgrade their property. There's some
[21:53] towns that require that the homeowner
[21:56] combined the lots to make the lot more
[21:59] conforming.
[22:02] » Is that a question or a statement?
[22:03] » No, that's one way of alleviating um too
[22:07] much buildup of the pond because you
[22:10] still people building up and adding
[22:12] bathrooms and adding all this stuff.
[22:16] » [clears throat]
[22:16] » You still have se you're still close to
[22:18] the pond and so you still have leech
[22:21] leeching water that goes down to the
[22:23] pond because everything just about on
[22:26] that pond is uphill from the pond. So if
[22:30] you're building bigger houses with
[22:32] bigger bathrooms, going from cottages to
[22:36] full-blown houses that are twostory or
[22:39] threetory,
[22:41] five, you know, five bedrooms and four
[22:43] bathrooms or whatever it is, you're
[22:46] adding beach water into the pond, which
[22:49] is a big concern because
[22:52] um this is
[22:54] the quality of the water. Pretty sure
[22:56] everything down there pretty much is
[22:58] engineered septic now if you're building
[22:59] the doors or something.
[23:01] » There's a lot of smaller cottages that
[23:03] are not.
[23:04] » Yeah, but you're not going from a
[23:05] onebedroom to a fivebedroom without any
[23:08] septic. I don't
[23:09] » No, you're not. But but some people we
[23:13] did it. We went up, but we still
[23:15] maintained it was a threebedroom.
[23:18] We maintain the three bedroomedroom, but
[23:20] there are some places that are smaller,
[23:23] a smaller lot and
[23:28] some with old septic systems. I don't
[23:30] know if you've ever seen soap suds that
[23:32] run along the pond.
[23:35] » Yeah.
[23:37] Every weekend.
[23:40] Just it's just what do you want? Do you
[23:42] want more development? Do you want the
[23:45] houses to be worth more? just want
[23:47] people to be able to maintain their
[23:49] houses or do you want the pond to have
[23:52] maintain its quality of water
[23:56] um in the long term because of um tax
[24:00] dollars down there and tourism and all
[24:04] the fun people have down there in the
[24:06] summer fun
[24:08] or is it just benefiting a few people
[24:11] for all this money? We want all of the
[24:14] above for Nevada.
[24:18] » Great.
[24:21] » All right. So, John, since I got you on
[24:24] uh we got the proposed proposed
[24:26] extinguishment of the second Oh, there
[24:29] was one more question.
[24:30] » Yeah. I I want this just one thing about
[24:32] the water the water system. I know it's
[24:33] all preliminary and I know the engineers
[24:35] and all probably looked at this. I
[24:37] looked at a lot of the paperwork, a lot
[24:38] of the first study that was done, what
[24:40] was available in the least. One thing I
[24:42] didn't see in there take into account
[24:43] and I know the city chiefs the study is
[24:46] uh up in Massachusetts a lot of towns
[24:49] went through the same problem uh over
[24:52] the decades and they put city water in
[24:54] to solve a lot of the problems. In 20
[24:57] years they have more problems because
[24:59] you have to take into account when you
[25:01] pump water out to different locations
[25:03] you have to raise the water table six
[25:05] feet in a town and all the septics fail
[25:08] because
[25:10] you're pumping water to all these
[25:11] locations. So the hydra all hydrarology
[25:14] and everything else has to take into
[25:15] account theoretically all that water
[25:18] being put to a different location in
[25:19] this. understand we ended up paying $50
[25:22] million for the septic system for the uh
[25:25] sewer. Lucky though you're next to a
[25:27] large city. So a large city took the
[25:30] treatment. So we don't have a large city
[25:33] nearby to pipe it to. So that's just
[25:36] something I just didn't see in in the
[25:38] study. I just chiming in from what what
[25:40] I've seen is that that hit me in the
[25:42] pocket quite hard when that when that
[25:45] happened in North Dakota. So got very
[25:48] very expensive to to connect because we
[25:51] have a bond that would be just pointing
[25:53] that out.
[25:55] » Thank you.
[25:58] » John, you still there?
[26:01] » I am.
[26:01] » Okay. Uh a proposed extinguishment of
[26:04] the town's right away to Old Econ Road.
[26:12] Um what where did we come up with that?
[26:17] Um that was a request uh made by um a
[26:22] Butters uh on Old Econ Road folks that
[26:25] basically have an old road rightway
[26:27] still under the control and ownership of
[26:29] the municipality
[26:31] um that was sort of handed over to the
[26:32] town when the state rebuilt 49 and
[26:35] rerouted it. there's a little eyebrow of
[26:38] a road that basically runs through a
[26:41] couple of people's backyards. and they
[26:43] made the inquiry and request um that
[26:45] since the town clearly does not use nor
[26:48] need this that it be formally
[26:51] extinguished and the the legal term is
[26:53] discontinued
[26:55] um so that the town can divest itself of
[26:57] that property um which it does not use
[27:00] nor need nor need the liability on um
[27:03] and basically hand it off to the uh
[27:06] abuing property owners so that they can
[27:08] own it in fee simple. Um, this was the
[27:11] request made. Um, the board of selectmen
[27:13] considered this and referred it to the
[27:15] planning and zoning commission for
[27:18] what's referred to as an 824 referral.
[27:21] Um, referencing Connecticut General
[27:23] Statute section 8-24.
[27:25] Um, the planning and zoning commission
[27:26] determined that this um extinguishment
[27:29] of the road uh formally through
[27:31] discontinuation was appropriate and was
[27:34] in keeping with the goals of the plan of
[27:36] conservation and development. um they
[27:38] encourage the selectman to move forward
[27:40] on it. And um in order to do so uh if
[27:44] the selectman wish to continue, the
[27:46] selectmen need to um schedule a town
[27:50] meeting to formally
[27:52] um vote to discontinue the road. Uh and
[27:56] there are some you know legal
[27:58] notifications in the newspaper, legal
[28:00] notifications to the abutters as well as
[28:02] signage posted to properly notify the
[28:05] municipality of its intent. Um but that
[28:09] this would be basically a formal action
[28:11] requiring a majority town meeting vote
[28:14] uh essentially to extinguish and say the
[28:17] town no longer has interest legal
[28:19] interest in uh this right of way.
[28:36] All right. So, how's um September 22nd
[28:40] for a town meeting for this?
[28:45] » John, does that give us enough time at
[28:47] 60 days from tonight?
[28:48] » Yeah. Yeah. you basically need um to
[28:50] notify a Butters uh 30 days prior um and
[28:55] post assigned 30 days prior and then you
[28:58] know you need to because it's a town
[28:59] meeting you need to legally notice it in
[29:01] the paper um twice ahead of time at
[29:04] least 15 days. So yes, two months out
[29:06] gives you plenty of time.
[29:11] I make a motion that we set a the town
[29:14] meeting for the uh discontinuence of Old
[29:17] Econ Road under an 824 referral to
[29:21] September 22nd, 2026.
[29:24] » All in favor?
[29:26] » I
[29:29] have a 22nd town meeting.
[29:31] » Yep.
[29:33] At 7 p.m.
[29:39] here
[29:42] at town hall.
[29:52] Thanks, John.
[29:54] » Okay, thanks folks.
[29:57] Okay,
[29:57] » Next the chip ceiling guys are supposed
[29:59] to be here. Are they here?
[30:01] » They did not show up, so we can't talk
[30:04] to them, which is great.
[30:10] Uh, let's do tax movement.
[30:14] We talked about the chips dealing with
[30:15] that. I'm I I'll talk with the guys.
[30:18] I'll talk why they're not here tonight.
[30:21] So, that's not but but the company was
[30:25] supposed to be here tonight. The
[30:26] representatives of the company and
[30:31] maybe the weather. There's
[30:32] » A miscommunication on the time I just
[30:34] dropped on. And they think the meeting
[30:37] is at 7,
[30:39] but they should be on their way.
[30:43] They didn't know the meeting was 6. They
[30:45] thought it was seven. Okay, hold on.
[30:52] » Let's reschedu with them.
[30:54] » Oh, the 22nd with them, too.
[30:57] You want to do that?
[30:58] » Add them to September 22nd.
[31:00] » Okay. Okay.
[31:02] » Was this a town meeting or a selectman's
[31:04] meeting?
[31:05] » Public hearing.
[31:06] » Public hearing.
[31:07] » What does it say on the new board up
[31:10] there?
[31:10] » Says on the website.
[31:12] » What does No. What does it say? Town
[31:13] meeting.
[31:14] » Public hearing.
[31:16] » It says town meeting on the board. That
[31:17] That is a mistake that we fully take
[31:21] responsibility for and acknowledge. But
[31:23] this is a public hearing. The newspaper
[31:25] and the town website stated it was just
[31:27] the board that was the mistake.
[31:30] And that's the one that doesn't have a
[31:32] legal requirements. Not trying to get
[31:34] out of anything, but that's then don't
[31:36] try and get out of it. No, we're not
[31:38] trying to get out of it. We We take the
[31:40] hit.
[31:42] » Doors are always open. You want to come
[31:44] in, talk, whatever.
[31:45] » Well, no. I I read it.
[31:46] » Yep. I'm going to stay.
[31:49] » Oh, okay. That's fair.
[31:53] » All right. Uh, let's do the Where do we
[31:56] have three more?
[31:58] Four.
[31:59] Yeah.
[32:06] First one
[32:08] is for Robert Engel Jr. for 3145
[32:18] 11:45.
[32:21] Second one is for Toyota lease trust for
[32:25] 19730.
[32:29] Third one is for
[32:32] Sean Douly founding road volunt 40 52
[32:38] $4052
[32:41] and the last one Donna stole of condon
[32:44] road and that one is $4488.
[32:49] I make a motion to issue tax refunds as
[32:52] recommended by the tax collector.
[32:55] » Second.
[32:55] » All in favor? Hi,
[33:15] Make them.