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Thank you all for attending. Please
rise, face the flag, and Dr. Rodriguez,

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would you lead us?
>> Please join me in the pledge of

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allegiance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic

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for which it stands, one nation under
God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.
>> Who uh is there anyone here for the

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invocation?
>> Dr. Freeman could. Yeah, as long as you

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happen to be here.
>> Would you do it?

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» Oh, this is great.
>> Yeah, that's right.

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» I'd say in the name of the Father, Son,
Holy Spirit. Lord God, thank you for the

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gift of Walton and especially in this
busy upcoming week. Bless our comingings

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and goings. Let us have minds and hearts
and souls of leaders and always provide

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for those less fortunate than us.
Continue to bless us in Jesus's name.

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Amen.
>> Amen.

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» Oh, don't sit down.
>> Don't sit down. We can You can sit down.

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Please uh come up in front of

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you wife. We felt that it was just a
small token, a very small token of our

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appreciation for your service to our
community. It's just a simple

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certificate of appreciation.
>> Oh wow.

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» And this is to honor bestowed upon Dr.
Michael J. Freeman and Dr. Denise A.

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Freeman in honor of nearly three
decades. We actually put it together. I

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wanted to say [applause]
I wanted to say 52 years of combin 53

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years, right?
>> But anyways, almost three decades

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between uh
>> each um for your skill, kindness, and

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devotion. You have created a lasting
legacy. Thank you for the countless

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lives you have touched and comfort you
have provided with deepest gratitude and

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warmest wishes. for a happy and
fulfilling retirement given this date 10

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August 2026. So,
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» Oh, no. [applause] Thank you for your
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» investment. If that's if that's a small
gesture, then why did I get goosebumps?

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That's a very special. Thank you.
>> Lovely. Thank you.

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» Thank you so much.
>> Yes, we appreciate your investment in

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our community and your continued
investment. You're not going anywhere,

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right?
>> No, we're not going anywhere.

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No, we at the end of the week
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leaving anywhere.
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» we'll still be neighbors.
>> Thank you so much.

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» And thank you again for coming in.
>> Absolutely. Thank you. Didn't expect

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» What's that?
>> Need to include

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a hug. [laughter]
>> How are you, honey?

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» Good.
>> The best doctor.

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» Thanks.
>> How you doing, everybody?

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» You're going to make some of us cry, you
know. This was a commute. Could I b the

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easy pass? [laughter]

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» Okay, moving forward.
Is there anyone here that would like to

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make uh [clears throat] address this
board with public input?

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Please do so at this time because once
we get into the meeting after this there

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will be no um chance to address the
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» Steve,
>> no we got you Steve. I got you

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» about the
>> Yeah, got it.

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» Yeah.
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» Chris is
now we're going to put him under his I

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just want to make sure

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We're going to when when we get to the
uh I see it reports.

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» Um approval of the minutes from 13th
July 2026. Everybody get a copy?

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» Yep.
>> Make a motion we approve them as

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submitted.
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» We got a motion and a second to approve
the minutes of 13 July 2026. Kevin and

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I.
>> Yeah.

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» Any discussion?
>> All in favor?

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» Any opposed? That's carried.
Uh Jeff

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Everybody got a
>> any questions? Jeff

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» Jeff
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» No covered everything.
>> Yeah. Okay. Great.

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Um okay.
Assessor's report. Any questions on

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that?
>> Um Penny asked me to bring up um she

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asked concerns about the uh um
percentage of uh

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what is it?
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» Equalization rate and the she's been
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discussion or preliminary research on it
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that are selling two and three times
their assessment gives her concern that

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the state is not going to was at 100%.
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happened the last time because of sales.
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uh, the company that we
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last time has not been, uh, forthcoming
with the second phase of this. Uh, not

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answering any emails or anything. So,
Penny's going to do what she can to keep

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us as high as
we can possibly go, but uh just to give

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a heads up, she she doesn't have a
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very little we can do about it. Very
little anybody can do about it because

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of the sales.
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are buying past the

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» value like it shouldn't affect everybody
else. She said, she said there was, I

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forgot what property it was, but there
was a property somewhere that was the

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assessed value at 100% was uh 230,000.
It sold for 480 or something like that.

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affect everybody else either. You know
what I mean?

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» But I know, but it's not just one.
There's multiple and that affects.

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» She can reassess them though, right?
>> No, no, no, you cannot. You cannot uh

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you cannot reassess based on sale
>> uh what do they call that? Um

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» welcome.
>> Welcome stranger.

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» Welcome stranger. Yes.
>> Yes.

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» So what
>> so company we contracted to

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» not
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» Okay.
>> We we did not pay them anything. We only

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paid them for the initial one. But they
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years
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» and we're setting money aside and we
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» No, we set we set it at budget time.
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» We and it was very it was very very uh a
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» I forgot how much it was but you
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» Yeah. I think I think you're right.
Roughly around 10,000 a year for the

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next four years
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» Is that a good deal if they're not
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money there
somebody else

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» not even to answer an email. And you
know, frankly, I think they did a a

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pretty good job in their um
rebound,

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» but uh the follow through is not
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» Not answering an email.
>> Do we have a contact with them we can

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call? I don't like having
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» we've been
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» um No.
Penny says she's

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» been trying to contact for six months
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» Are they still in business?
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» I I don't know if there's health issues
or whatever.

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» But if there are, then somebody should
still say that.

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» You would think.
>> And you know, we could have grace. It's

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it's him and just a couple other people
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don't know. I'll try and find an answer
and bring it back to the board, but it's

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been a little frustrating. So,
anyways, um any questions with code? We

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do have a resolution.
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» yes, I uh and Jesse's doing a great job.
He's in communication with Josh quite a

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bit. They have a plan worked out. Every
Friday they meet um for whatever Jess

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needs and during the week if he actually
needs to call him. But uh I did request

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what the amount I think I sent this.
Didn't I forward this to you guys? Um

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» I didn't see it, but
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uh Josh to help him with stuff. It's I
thought it was a good cost, $31.40. And

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that's what he's getting from other
municipalities for doing basically the

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same thing. So
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» Well, no, not it's it's more than
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his license.
>> Yes. He has to sign off on everything.

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Right. Right. Um, Jesse is scheduled to
start August 23rd or

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» Yeah, he's search up sometime in August
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» Yeah, something like that. And he'll be
done in October, I think, right? Isn't

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that October? So, basically what we did
four years ago with Garrett. So,

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» we need to have there's nothing we can
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» And very fortunate. Josh is really good.
Um, and again, he does other

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municipalities, so and he's available.
>> Um, so would someone care to make a

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motion to uh
>> to what's the word I'm looking for? To

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contract with Josh Morgan for
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» professional services
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» code enforcement
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» at $31.40 an hour.
>> Okay. moved it.

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» Dr. Rod seconded. Any further
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» All in favor?
>> Any opposed?

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» That's carried.
>> His hours, he said 12 to 4 Monday

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through Friday, which I think works out
great.

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» Yeah.
>> Oh, Jesse's hours are 12.

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» Yeah, that's what he's been doing.
>> That's great.

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» And I've told them I've run that by
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clients.
>> Yeah, he's doing really great. Yeah,

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» he's he's he's a sharp guy. We got lucky
there, didn't we?

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» That's why we brought him on the on the
fire.

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» Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Um
for the first time in a long time, uh

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dog control Chris.
>> Hey Chris,

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» come on up and take a seat.

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» Everybody remembers Chris, right?

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How are you? Good.
>> So, I have a statement for the board

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like to read and present to you guys.
So, as most of you all know, I'm still

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navigating a hurdle with the Walton Town
Court. Any dog control violation tickets

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written and served are immediately
recused by the judge due to a conflict

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of interest. This has and continues to
pose a serious delay in court

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proceedings and hearings in cases that
should be handled and dealt with swiftly

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moving forward. It continues to be a
major issue as tickets are sent to the

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county to be reassigned for where and
when they will be heard when the cases

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are sent to another town court. I try to
keep within the loop for these cases and

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violations, but have found this to be
extremely difficult. I've had cases go

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to Masonville, Tomkins, Hancock, and
Franklin for a dangerous dog case. All

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of which I neither contract with or have
any experience with in their courts.

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Agricultural market cases can be
time-sensitive, emotional, and involved

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as it includes animals and owners, of
which I both try to represent. The

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conflict was that the Walton Town Judge
was our family's tax accountant and felt

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this was a conflict of interest with us
being his clients and him being the

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judge. When I became the doctor officer,
our entire our entire family has sought

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out and obtained a new tax service for
all future tax representation.

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I'm asking for the board's assistance in
inquiring if at all possible future

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cases can be heard and held at the
Walton Village Court. This request would

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greatly improve the process in
enforcement of all local town and

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village laws as well as aggra cultural
and market cases.

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So I guess my and understand your
frustration and this isn't obviously

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new. Um
but if he's no longer

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if there's no longer a perceived
conflict of interest, can he legally

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still not hear the dog cases in our
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» So it's not a matter of is it legal or
illegal? It's an ethical um

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opinion, okay? And he it's an ethical
concern and it's it's up to him, okay,

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to recuse himself and he has done so. He
went a step further. He asked uh the

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OCA, Office of Port Administration, I
believe that was the the correct office

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that that he reached out to and they
said that he cannot hear cases for four

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years. Is that what they told us?
>> He told me three.

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» Three. Okay.
>> Could be four. No,

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» I think it was three.
>> Four was in my head, but three. Okay.

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So, for three years. So, Judge Ripa has
told the board that he's going by what

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he's he's being told from the higher up.
Okay. Um, to answer your question, can

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we go to the village? We can't choose
what court it goes to. Unfortunately,

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when there is a recusal, that is the
proper step. It goes to the county. The

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county then chooses what municipality
hears it.

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And there is nothing that we can do or
should do because it it's you know can

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be perceived as you know picking what
port um as to where it goes. Okay. They

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are supposed to choose um
a municipality that's contiguous to

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Walton though. So H I mean I guess
Hancock is right. Yeah.

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» Yeah. So Walton is pretty big.
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» Masonville. What about
That's Tomkins,

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» right? Tom.
>> So, yeah, they're you're in Tomkins.

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You're in hand.
>> But I don't understand why they're not

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at least sending them all to the same
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» I don't think that's how it works
either. Yeah. I think there's like a

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» like a lottery system.
>> I guess spread it out. Yeah.

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» One of the questions would be
>> how do we get the information

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to him? So, can you get me the the names
so that I can call the county and just

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say, "Where where are these? Where where
are you sending to?"

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» I've been doing that.
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then they go and if someone doesn't
appear, then there's a continuence and

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then I don't get those notices from that
specific court.

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» Yeah, I I get the initial from Judge
Hubard's office. I do get that. I

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finally got those now. I got that that
communication problem sorted.

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» Perfect.
>> But

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» so once it goes back down to a court,
you're not getting the disposition of

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the case.
>> Correct. And and I can't be in I can't

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be in Hancock and I can't be in and if I
write 10 license tickets in the week,

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chances are they might all end up in one
court, but the next week if I write

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tickets, they might not end up the same
court.

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» There's no way for me to navigate. And
and if I don't appear to these a lot of

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these cases, then
>> they're gonna get dismissed.

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» They're going to get dismissed
>> and then I'm back to square one.

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» Right. So there's no teeth in our laws
if if

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» correct.
>> Walton won't hear them and they're

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dismissed all over the county.
>> I wasn't I just put this together. I

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wasn't sure. I my contract is with the
town. I haven't working with the village

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and I haven't heard back yet. I found
some issues within the village too that

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we're trying to address as far as an
oath and this and that. But I I was

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I'm we cover the licensing
for the town or for the village. So I

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was trying to see if I can't we hear the
cases in the village

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» because the village is within the town.
So why couldn't it go to the village?

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» Right.
>> How was it the ticket depending on where

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the person lived? Is that where the
ticket's written? in the town.

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» Is that a communication the town can
have with the village to hold these

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specific cases?
>> No, because the the proper avenue for

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when there is a recusal. So you go to
the proper jurisdiction which is the

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town when there is a recusal it bounces
up to county.

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» Yeah.
>> But now if you write a ticket in the

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village,
does it go to village court or or does

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it come to town court anyway?
>> It should go to the village.

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» Well, that I can't write any tickets to
the village. I

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» because you're Well, that's another
dilemma I showed them. I'm not listed in

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their as right. Only code enforcement,
police department can write any local

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law tickets. I showed them that already.
They're they're supposed to address

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that. But
>> can they do a

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» Can we petition or not petition, but
just send a letter to

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either the office of court
administration or uh to judge Hubard and

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ask him to explain the situation to him
because I would think Chad, if Chad

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would be willing to hear the cases, it
would be the smart way to do it.

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» We We can't pick though.
>> But can they

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» can he?
>> I don't know if they can sign a specific

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court. I will I don't know. I don't know
if they can or not.

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» We can't make any
>> recommendations.

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» Yeah, we can't we can't do that.
>> We can't request

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» I I can ask I can call. Yeah, I I can
see what Let me find out what their

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procedure is, how they pick these towns.
explain the hardship that it's causing

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you and see what we can do. We just
can't appear to be, you know, picking

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the judge that's going to hear the
>> right. That's not what I was looking

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for.
>> And I I know that's not we're not, you

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know, we're not picking a judge. We're
picking a location.

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» Correct. Just a neutral a neutral
location. Neutral.

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» Is there any way we can get that
fouryear thing? I mean,

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» you might be right on three. My memory
>> three years or whatever it is. I mean,

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that seems a little
>> I think he told me three. That's what he

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told me. I haven't seen it in writing. I
haven't I haven't,

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» you know, been,
>> but there's also revenue that the town

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is losing from
>> Yeah.

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» Yeah. I think I've seen that before. I
think it was three years. I knew too,

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but
>> it just seems kind of ridiculous.

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» It is.
>> Listen, it's within the judge's

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discretion.
>> Yeah.

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» Right. Right.
>> But the town is also losing all the dog

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revenue. We And aside from that, we have
no teeth in our law. So the dogs can do

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anything in the town of Walton if Chris
can't do anything about it.

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» Yeah. And if it and for an example, if
certain cases land in certain courts, I

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have I've been working with Sean Smith a
long time. I have with

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authority in some courts to make
recommendations to work, you know, and

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» prosecute.
>> I can prosecute. Yes. When I land in

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these other towns, it doesn't work that
way. A lot of them don't even know the

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dog laws or or what how these cases are
going to work.

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» Why would they? It's Walton. Yeah.
Right. So, it's been difficult to

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navigate. And even as far as like simple
licenses that I have to push, they could

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go three months bouncing. They'll stay
within a court and then they'll just get

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reappearances and then it's it puts
>> Well, and you could do the re forever,

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» right? Yeah. So, if you give a ticket to
a dog in the town of Walton, you're

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following town of Walton dog
regulations. Correct.

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» Correct.
>> Okay. So, if the county assigns that to

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Hancock,
are you following Hancock

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regulations
>> or Walton's regulations?

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» Well, it would be Walton's.
>> Yeah. A majority of the tickets I write

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would be under eggs and markets. That's
would be state.

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» So the judge the judge in in Hancock has
to follow Walton's regulations

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» which state follow the state. Correct.
>> I believe our Walton local law for drug

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control mirrors what the state has.
>> But a lot of surrounding towns don't

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have the multitude of cases and know how
to deal with them is the another issue.

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You know,
>> it's not they just don't have the case.

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But that's a that's a judge problem
>> because if they are

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» given the responsibility of addressing a
particular case, it's up to them to come

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up with the understanding
of the pertinent laws.

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» Yeah.
>> To it.

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» Agree.
>> But they go and they appear at they go.

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They're scheduled in another court.
they go or they don't. They don't go.

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» Sometimes the evidence isn't there.
>> What he's saying is

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» by the time I get there, they don't have
all the documents. They don't It's been

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It's been
>> And there's some emergency to it,

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especially
>> some of them have been timesensitive.

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Some dangerous dog cases where they
should be dealt with swiftly.

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» Sure. Sure.
>> And licenses, I feel the same way. They

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I feel if I write a license ticket,
>> one appearance is enough. I there

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shouldn't be two or three appear
reappearances or no shows. I I can't

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Some of them I can't circle back on on
the simple ones that we could address

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easily.
>> Right.

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» And then once the reappearances start, I
don't get notified from the other towns

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unless I call, you know, unless I
physically call.

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» Putting a lot more on you to figure out.
>> That's another whole list of these ones

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to call back and circle back to that. I
don't know if they've reappeared or not.

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I don't find out right away until that
court sends out a reappearance.

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» And like you said, if you haven't
appeared, then they

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But yeah,
>> I I I don't understand. If you are the

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enforcing agent,
>> yeah,

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» for the particular law,
>> why would you be contacted by them?

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» By who?
>> By

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» by the other town.
>> By the by the court

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that's being assigned to
>> because like the other court doesn't

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» the county assigns officer.
>> But if the officer doesn't sign up, they

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don't contact. should be sending him the
notices of the next appearances.

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» Exactly.
>> That's what I'm saying.

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» But you don't but if it's if an officer
doesn't show up for a ticket, the court

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doesn't send them a thing saying this is
this person's going to attend this next

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time either. They just put it off to the
next month and they are are supposed to

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appear. They don't tell the officer
that. The officer can inquire that like

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Chris has been inquiring, but they don't
get a a notification of that.

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» No.
>> Yeah. Pat, but they should.

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» The thing about it is
>> not the law to do. Yeah,

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» you don't have the court does not have
to tell them that because now it's in

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their jurisdiction.
>> Okay. So, can you find out what who has

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the obligation of contacting him?
>> Yeah.

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» About it.
>> Can we schedule a phone call?

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» Of course.
>> And we'll just go over the list. You

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tell me what jurisdiction [cough] has
been assigned to

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» I had the feeling that
I've closed everything up. I'm But I'm

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getting ready to
>> to start. Yeah. And it's going to be

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» a mess. just try to keep me in the loop.
Okay. Um and then if

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» Yeah, I'll make phone calls. Okay.
>> First and foremost, if they get a phone

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call saying, "Look, can they all go to
the village court?" Maybe they'll say

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yes. I mean, it's not looking any
I can

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» or pick a court, but at least if it's
one court that they pick instead of

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doing this roundroin thing, at least any
>> I wasn't sure if it was something the

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village and the town could get an
agreement together, cooperate together.

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» Yeah, it's
>> I mean, we already do the the town does

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all dog licensing for the village
already.

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» Oh, yeah.
>> Right. So,

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» so it was already intertwined.
>> Correct. So

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» I wasn't sure if there was something
there that we

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» But if you write it in the village, it
doesn't go to village court anywhere. It

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goes to town court is what you're
saying?

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» Yes.
>> I don't Yeah, I haven't written any

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tickets within the village. I when I
when I first went to do it, I found in

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their laws that I couldn't, but I
wasn't.

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» Under what authority are you writing
licenses for the village?

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» Well, the village is part of I'm not I'm
writing them for the town. I I

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the town. I'm contracted by the town
which oversees the licensing for the

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village.
>> Right.

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» Under what authority?
>> What do you mean?

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» Markets and markets.
>> Yeah. Eggs and markets.

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» Okay. Okay. So, so you have the right to
write those tickets. Therefore, you

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should be
given

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the due diligence to to contact you.
doesn't have the right to the flight and

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I don't know how how did um
Rusty write them.

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» I don't know if Rusty ever wrote any
tickets to the village.

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» Well, there were village cases. I know.
>> Yeah. Were they heard at the town

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though?
>> They were heard at the town.

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» They were heard at the town level. Yeah.
>> So,

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» there's no dog control officer listed
under any enforcement for local dog law

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within the village.
>> There's it's the code enforcer and

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village PD. when I looked into their
laws.

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» Yes.
>> So, right now I just do licensing

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within the village, you know.
>> So, if the is the village PD, let's say

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for example the I had a little kid and
the neighbor's dog beat my kid and I

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live in Grisville.
>> Yeah.

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» I called the wild the
>> You could call me for that.

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» I could call you for that. would call me
for that because it falls under eggs and

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markets.
>> Most likely they say that I would call

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the police.
>> They would call me still

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» and they would call you.
>> Yeah.

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» So, so where the village
>> what is the agreement

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» by which the Walton police has the right
to call you

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» because he's the dog control officer of
the for the town.

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» So they refer it to him.
>> I know that. But the issue is where is

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it written? They got at some time in the
last 20 years somebody wrote an

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agreement about this.
>> I want to know

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» or did know because because a market
says the town of Walton

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» the town is responsible for dog control
and the town the village is part

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» the taxpayers in the village of Walton
pay tax

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» to dog control also. So
>> reason. Yes.

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» Yeah.
>> Okay. But the the the

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dog control the code or police have to
intervene. It can't be Chris that

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writes,
>> right? I'm not specifically for v I'm

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I'm I'm speaking to specific like the
town has its own laws.

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» Yes.
>> The village has its own laws.

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» Yes.
>> All right. They're they're two separate

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things. Now they
>> they don't they don't they don't agree.

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» Well, they agree. They're somewhat the
same. There's different like

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» nuances,
>> right? There's different, you know,

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there's not not a specific leash law in
the town of Delhigh.

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» Specific leash law. There's an atlarge
law.

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» So, it shouldn't shouldn't since the
village has no dog enforcing agent.

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Shouldn't the v the village follow the
the superseding authority which is the

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laws of for dog management in walton
>> egg markets they f

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» well which is the ones we follow right
but

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shouldn't it be
>> well I guess

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» well they do
>> well eggs and markets

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puts that responsibility on the town
which is the village is covered under

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the town for
>> the town is is the the the

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representative for the state
>> correct

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» in there okay so having said that

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okay shouldn't he be
recognized at the village level as well

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as the town level
>> I don't know I don't have a specific

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contract with the village
No.

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» What are you talking about? Getting paid
by them

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» or you having the responsibility?
>> Say that again.

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» The authority.
>> Are you talking about getting paid by

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them
>> or the responsibility?

424
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:13,200
» Well, I have the responsibility to
anything under eggs and markets. I can

425
00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:15,919
» Okay.
>> Because I contract with the town.

426
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:19,440
» Right.
>> At large, uh, dangerous dogs.

427
00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:26,399
» Right. Right. Right.
>> Um, any article 7 laws. I'm I'm

428
00:30:22,159 --> 00:30:30,559
referring to dogs. uh off leashes, dogs
pooping in other people's yards, people

429
00:30:28,559 --> 00:30:34,960
not cleaning up. That would be a local
village ordinance that I cannot enforce.

430
00:30:34,159 --> 00:30:37,120
» Right.
>> Why?

431
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:40,399
» I'm not named in there.
>> They haven't granted him the authority.

432
00:30:39,039 --> 00:30:43,760
It's not You said it's at the code
officer and

433
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:46,559
» and the village PD are the only two that
are named in there

434
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:50,080
» for those specific things.
>> Right. That's a problem.

435
00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:55,039
» I
>> I've already addressed that months ago.

436
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:58,640
360 on walls of the village.
>> Yeah, I've already I've already proposed

437
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:02,640
something to them. I haven't heard back
yet.

438
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:05,520
» So, if they want to hire him as the now
a village,

439
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:08,559
» maybe you need to call the judge, the
the lawyer for the town village

440
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:13,039
» for the village.
>> Yeah. And and push the issue.

441
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:19,039
» What I'm navigating is specifically I do
all the licensing for the village. 90

442
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,399
I'm going to say I might stretch it 95%
of the calls

443
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,679
» Yeah.
>> come from the village. I I I I I

444
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:31,520
understand that
>> that large dog. What I'm trying to say

445
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:38,080
is that somewhere near we forgot.
Okay.

446
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:43,760
For whatever reason that you should be
a dual agent of village and town and

447
00:31:42,799 --> 00:31:47,120
recognize
>> we didn't forget that the village hasn't

448
00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:52,880
given him the responsibility. We have
nothing to do with.

449
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:55,440
Did we ask about it? Because I don't
recall the village. I don't think

450
00:31:54,399 --> 00:31:57,039
anybody knows.
>> We're not the village.

451
00:31:56,159 --> 00:31:59,760
» We're the town,
>> right?

452
00:31:57,519 --> 00:32:02,880
» I had I don't recall that conversation
>> really. [clears throat]

453
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:05,519
» Yeah. When I when they Delhi hired me
>> because they were relying on

454
00:32:03,919 --> 00:32:08,159
» I showed them that the village they
didn't have the authority within the

455
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:11,600
village.
>> It works out simpler in Delhigh because

456
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:15,679
there's no village court.
>> They abolished the village court. But

457
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:18,960
here we have a town in village court.
>> Yeah. Other towns they don't have that.

458
00:32:17,679 --> 00:32:25,519
» If they create
a position and amend their local law to

459
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:27,919
give him the authority for
>> you know

460
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:31,360
» that would only cover the village
>> that would cover the village right but

461
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:34,399
if 95%
would help then it's going to help the

462
00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:38,159
village correct
>> not here however

463
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:42,080
» we lose the revenue
>> which we're losing anyway because he's

464
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:45,679
not he's recusing himself for three
years whatever

465
00:32:43,919 --> 00:32:48,000
» and stuff but it's not the revenue that
I'm worried about

466
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:51,519
» you're going to check
It's the it's the dangerous dog part

467
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:55,200
that it gets put on.
>> Why would we lose the revenue because

468
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:58,000
technically it's going to be the
jurisdiction of the village

469
00:32:56,559 --> 00:33:00,080
» once it goes to another court. That's
who's that's the court that gets the

470
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:04,480
revenue.
>> Oh, okay. All right. Even though right

471
00:33:02,399 --> 00:33:06,480
now they can assign it to Hancock.
>> We maintain

472
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:11,440
» it's still our jurisdiction.
>> Sorry. I was saying if he if Delhigh

473
00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:16,880
Delhigh [laughter]
if the village if the village of Walton

474
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:21,519
creates a dog control officer position
and amends their local law to grant a

475
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:27,039
dog control officer the authority to
issue tickets for everything under a

476
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:30,399
markets and their local ordinances
when he writes a ticket in the village

477
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:34,480
it's falling under the village
jurisdiction and goes to their court so

478
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,840
any fines
>> that would take action

479
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,480
That would take a percent of me chasing
them away.

480
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:44,480
» That would take a a great
>> You said 95%, right?

481
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:48,240
» I'm better.
>> They never see you, Chris.

482
00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:51,440
» You don't see me? Yeah, that's where I
am. I'm driving around the village.

483
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,159
» All right.
>> A majority of my calls are within the

484
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,399
village.
>> Okay. I

485
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,480
» probably unless it's a dangerous dog,
most of them are in the village because

486
00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:02,000
there's nuisance stuff.
>> Yeah, nuisance stuff. Barbecue.

487
00:33:59,919 --> 00:34:04,640
» I believe we understand your dilemma.
Yeah,

488
00:34:02,399 --> 00:34:09,679
» we we have a
>> process and a way forward to at least

489
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:14,159
» address it.
>> Can't we're not guaranteeing anything,

490
00:34:11,919 --> 00:34:19,679
right? Nothing's guaranteed, but I've
already spoke to the village. They're

491
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:23,760
aware of the the missing components of
their dog law. They're they're aware. I

492
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:29,040
because I went there and obtained a copy
of their dog law and they use a copy of

493
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:34,000
other villages dog laws. It's kind of
strict. It's from the state, but I'm not

494
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:38,399
specifically, not me specifically, my
name, I'm talking the dog control

495
00:34:35,599 --> 00:34:41,919
officer is not named within that law.
The code enforcer and the village police

496
00:34:40,879 --> 00:34:48,240
department is.
>> So that does not grant me even um

497
00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:51,599
» any authority to do anything outside of
what I contract with the town for for

498
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,440
licenses and stuff.
>> Yeah.

499
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:57,520
» Because that falls under our authority
anyway, right? or

500
00:34:55,200 --> 00:35:01,680
» on under on what authority can a cop
from the village of Walton call you to

501
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:06,640
address
>> anything anything dog related um

502
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:10,160
» under what authority
>> and market

503
00:35:07,359 --> 00:35:16,320
» eggs and markets and markets law that's
>> okay so therefore

504
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:20,160
so therefore you should be named
as the dog control officer for the

505
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,000
village
>> right that's what he's saying that's

506
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,440
what he's
>> I've already tried that four months ago.

507
00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:27,440
I was there at the meeting.
>> I understand you're trying to,

508
00:35:26,809 --> 00:35:30,800
[laughter]
but we need to push for it to happen.

509
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:35,280
» Yeah.
>> Is that what we want to happen?

510
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:39,040
» It's lose all that money,
>> but we're losing it now anyway.

511
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,320
» Right.
>> You'll still get all the licensing fees.

512
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:47,200
They'll have to come here to license the
dogs. You know, the way I look at it,

513
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:50,560
» if 95% or whatever the case is is the
village

514
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:54,960
» and the and they take over and the money
goes to them, then they should be

515
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,720
» paying for part of that position.
>> Yeah.

516
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,800
» I mean, the majority of it.
>> Yeah.

517
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:02,000
» So, I mean, that's some if we're going
to go down that road, if we're going to

518
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:05,520
lose the revenue in all the cases,
>> I don't I don't know what the answer is.

519
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:08,960
It just it was my suggestion. I didn't
know if it was something because of I

520
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:12,640
didn't know how the contract worked
between the town and the village for you

521
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:16,800
guys covering the licensing.
>> You know what I mean?

522
00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:21,599
» You guys I have my contract with you. I
do a majority of my work is licensing

523
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:26,960
» and then there's the array of other
things that come about that I can

524
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:30,800
navigate without
>> without any issues. You know what I'm

525
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:35,599
saying? But when it comes to the the
legal part and go into court for people

526
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:39,520
that don't want to license their dogs or
any dangerous dogs at large tickets,

527
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:43,040
those kind of things, I can write under
eggs and markets,

528
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:47,680
» but they come here and then they get
recused and I don't I have it worked

529
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:51,920
out. I know where the where the first
appearance is going to be. But if those

530
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:54,480
if that court doesn't receive the
information,

531
00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:58,480
» which happens happens a lot.
>> That happens a lot. I show up and they

532
00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:02,000
don't even have the file and then it
gets continued for not I'm not talking a

533
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:05,040
week it gets continued for a month
>> if it's not an ad if it's an ad thing

534
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,520
that they're waiting for it's going to
wait a month

535
00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:11,440
» right and if the ADA is not there that
month it gets continued again so it's

536
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,320
» so it can go
>> undo burden on you

537
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:18,079
» and it can go months
>> and and in my position all I've been

538
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:21,040
doing this 15 years I've always tried to
go to all the cases there's no reason

539
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:25,040
why I can't be there
>> right

540
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:29,119
» you know and because I'm there for the
public. I'm there for the dog owner. I'm

541
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:32,480
there for the dog. Some of there's, you
know, it's not just for the ticket

542
00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:34,480
itself, you know,
>> right? You're there to resolve the

543
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:38,960
issue,
>> right?

544
00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:41,760
Which is that that's what I think the
public

545
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,560
expects.
>> Yeah.

546
00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:48,160
» Yeah.
>> So, it's a hurdle and it's just getting

547
00:37:45,839 --> 00:37:50,560
the village is got a lot and people are
moving around. It's just a lot. It's a

548
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,640
lot.
>> Oh, yeah. So

549
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,920
» yeah,
>> luck in that. I'm still wait. I haven't

550
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,640
heard back from the village. It's fair
week, so I'm not even planning on

551
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:04,560
hearing anything. I thought I would.
I've been inquiring from certain board

552
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:11,200
members, but nothing yet.
>> Yeah. So I I addressed to the village

553
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:15,920
already what I found in their law, you
know, and then was still navigating the

554
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:19,920
court part of it. It just some months
it's tough. It's tough. you know, I go

555
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:24,320
to appear and then there's nobody there
and then I don't know I don't get a

556
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:28,640
notice of reappearance.
>> So,

557
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:33,040
thank you for putting in the time of
>> Yes. Yeah. You know, I I talked to other

558
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:36,800
supervisors about you and they every
single one of them says you're you're

559
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:40,320
doing great. So, just keep up the good
work and

560
00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:42,960
» um you got a lot of support from the
number.

561
00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:46,720
» He's very passionate about it and he
>> I'm not throwing a towel in or anything.

562
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:50,240
I'm just looking to try to make it
easier, more, you know,

563
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:55,040
» have to be able to track them.
>> And I did speak I did speak with uh

564
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:59,680
Hubard's office. I've worked with them
for a while and and they they can't

565
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:04,400
guarantee a specific court. It has to
fall the way it falls.

566
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:07,839
» It's just there's time period in there
that is tough.

567
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:11,839
» You know, I might not hear for two or
three weeks where that case is going to

568
00:39:09,359 --> 00:39:18,240
land depending on when it leaves here.
you know, I drop tickets off here.

569
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:21,119
» Have we asked why they go on this may go
around?

570
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:26,560
» Uh, that's just part of the recusal
process when some a judge I've had other

571
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:30,640
judges recuse themselves in other other
towns. It happens rarely, but it

572
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:36,000
happens. It might be a neighbor or a
friend. The judge has to recuse himself.

573
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:41,280
Those I'm fine with. You know, I I can I
can handle one or two per year when I'm

574
00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:45,359
doing it all the time every week.
>> Yeah. Is that is that for you?

575
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:49,200
» Yeah. It's just it's too much. I The
case in Hancock

576
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:53,760
» do you have here as a general rule?
>> Well, I try to work through most of

577
00:39:51,359 --> 00:39:58,960
them. You know, I try to avoid
>> going to court. You know, I try to is

578
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:04,480
for everyone's sake. But on average it
could be

579
00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:07,520
I mean what I'm starting now it could be
15 to 20 a month cases you know it could

580
00:40:07,359 --> 00:40:12,800
be
>> so the other the other solution for that

581
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:17,680
is to hire another judge in the town of
Walton to hear dog cases.

582
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:22,400
» I I agree that that that seems
ridiculous but doesn't sound any more

583
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:27,920
ridiculous than hiring a security
full disclosure. I I wrote a little note

584
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:30,560
and showed it to Kevin. saying exactly
that

585
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:34,800
» that that's that's the other answer.
That's kind of an extreme position.

586
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:39,200
» Yeah, that's that's stretchy.
>> I mean, I I've I've tried in the

587
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:42,560
beginning. I came in and I tried to and
I got shunned away.

588
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:46,800
» Right now, I don't even know what
tickets are here. When I took over in

589
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:49,760
June, there were allegedly tickets in
there. And I don't even know what's in

590
00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:52,560
there now. I don't even know what's
happened to those tickets.

591
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:55,680
» But we've had two judges before. And if
he's going to recuse himself, then maybe

592
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,400
we need a second judge for anything that
that might happen with. Not

593
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:04,000
» I don't know.
>> But I mean that's just that's the only

594
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:10,960
other solution I can think of that would
keep it in the way it's written now.

595
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:16,720
» Just can I just want to recap um
the recusal because of the previous

596
00:41:15,119 --> 00:41:22,000
relationship
is a personal choice by the judge. Is

597
00:41:19,359 --> 00:41:25,280
there a law that says he can't? It's an
ethics thing. It is. Yeah. It's a true

598
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:26,800
thing.
>> It

599
00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:31,280
» So there's no law.
>> Yeah. I mean, I think he did it

600
00:41:29,359 --> 00:41:35,599
» I don't think he did it intentionally,
>> right? I don't I don't think he did it

601
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:38,720
maliciously, but it is making a
difference.

602
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:43,319
» Yeah. I I think it was
>> it was an option that he had

603
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:50,560
» 15 cases out of his corner.
>> So, thank you. Yeah. Thank you for your

604
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,960
uh input and uh
>> thank you for bringing to our attention.

605
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:56,960
» Yes, bringing it to our attention and
we've got

606
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:59,599
» Yeah, Charlie's got some work to do and
>> I'll let you know.

607
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:05,359
» Yeah, I've been inquiring along the way,
too. It just I was hoping for some

608
00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:09,599
» I wish we had more teeth, but
>> Yeah. And it makes it harder for me to

609
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:13,040
have teeth in the game enforcing the
laws as well, you know, when they're

610
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:16,880
just bouncing all over the county,
>> right? Mhm.

611
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:19,359
» And people will take a minute that
>> rumor spread quick.

612
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,680
» Yeah. Amen. And it's going to be out
there now. They're going to be on the

613
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:25,280
internet forever.
>> Yeah.

614
00:42:23,359 --> 00:42:29,359
» They still need to appear. It's not like
they know can't not show up. If it's in

615
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:32,560
Hancock, they still have to go.
>> Yeah. But when they don't then that gets

616
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:35,599
put off for another month and then they
they get three times before they don't

617
00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:38,000
something.
>> Any of the ones that I work for, they

618
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:42,880
get two. Okay.
>> And then on the third time I show up

619
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:48,319
with an order to seize is how I do it. I
don't. Two times is enough.

620
00:42:45,839 --> 00:42:51,640
» And I You can do it too. You can make it
too. That's

621
00:42:51,839 --> 00:42:57,040
» Well, I appreciate your time.
>> Oh, no. Thank you for coming in.

622
00:42:56,319 --> 00:43:02,480
» Have a good one.
>> You too.

623
00:42:59,359 --> 00:43:09,280
» Okay, we have a letter from the zoning
board of appeals. Steve, thank you for

624
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:15,119
attending. Um, Steve wants to inform the
board that John Litz has resigned from

625
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:21,200
the zoning board of appeals
and he is proposing to

626
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:27,440
he's requesting us to appoint Barbara
Gell to finish out John's term.

627
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:33,400
So, can the resignation and the
appointment be in one resolution or do

628
00:43:29,599 --> 00:43:33,400
we have to uh

629
00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:41,119
we have to do two accepting John's
resignation?

630
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:46,000
» Let's do two. Anyways,
>> I'll move to accept John's resignation.

631
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:51,760
» Got a movement and a second to accept
>> move John Litz's uh do the opposite

632
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:56,079
» resignation from the zone board of
appeals. Any uh discussion?

633
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,079
Thank him for his service.
>> And thank Yeah.

634
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,520
» Been on it for a while.
>> You see him? Thank him for the service.

635
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:06,160
» You've been on there for a while.
>> Any further discussion?

636
00:44:03,359 --> 00:44:08,960
» 2007, I guess.
19 years.

637
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,839
» A long time.
>> Yeah. All in favor?

638
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:18,480
» I.
>> Any opposed? That motion's carried.

639
00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:24,400
On the recommendation from Steve Hajj,
uh, like to appoint Barbell to finish

640
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:28,560
out John's term. I have the specific
dates of the term.

641
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:33,119
» I believe
>> yeah, whatever the date is. I don't know

642
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:36,480
what it is. Um,
would someone care to make a motion?

643
00:44:35,359 --> 00:44:40,800
» Make a motion.
>> A motion.

644
00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:45,200
» And a second to appoint V Gell to finish
out John Litz's term on the zoning board

645
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:48,880
of appeals.
Any further discussion? All in favor?

646
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:53,760
» I.
>> Are there any opposed? Okay, that

647
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:56,720
motion's carried. You can let Barb know.
>> Thank you.

648
00:44:54,720 --> 00:45:02,000
» Well, here's some I don't know if we
need to do a resolution, but just to

649
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:09,119
inform the board that the zoning board
of appeal um is going to change their

650
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:14,319
meeting time from 7 to 6:00 p.m. due to
uh members having conflicting meetings.

651
00:45:12,079 --> 00:45:18,760
So, I don't think that has to be once a
month.

652
00:45:15,359 --> 00:45:18,760
» Yeah. Howest.

653
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:25,359
» Yeah. But you don't it'll meet every
month if you don't have to.

654
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:30,160
» Right.
>> And everybody's good with that

655
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:36,319
» time change for the ZBA.
>> Okay. So, just to recap, uh the zoning

656
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:39,440
boards zoning board of appeals will meet
at 6:00 p.m.

657
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:43,280
» Third Monday
>> instead of 700 p.m. on the third Mondays

658
00:45:42,319 --> 00:45:46,319
of the month
>> as needed.

659
00:45:44,319 --> 00:45:49,560
» All right. Thank you for coming in.
>> Thank you, Steve.

660
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,599
Rhonda.
>> I'm

661
00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:04,599
» Rhonda.

662
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:11,839
It's only been what, two years?
>> It's only about two years.

663
00:46:10,079 --> 00:46:16,240
» Almost two years.
>> Well, she was sitting over there in

664
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:20,560
» Anyway,
>> except with Lillian. You didn't call

665
00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:25,920
her.
>> I'm going to beat you though.

666
00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:34,560
» Anyway, your financial uh reports have
been provided and I do have a request of

667
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:39,839
the use of facilities. Um Amy Hodes
would like to use more parks on October

668
00:46:37,359 --> 00:46:43,040
17th from 3 to 8.
>> Um Amy Hodgees.

669
00:46:41,839 --> 00:46:47,160
» Oh, cool.
>> And um she want

670
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:53,200
But she wants to set up the night
before, which I said was probably going

671
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:56,160
to be okay. I drove over it with you
guys. She wants to set up the night

672
00:46:54,720 --> 00:47:00,240
before and it probably wouldn't be taken
down until that Sunday. So

673
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,680
» So it would be like Friday, Saturday,
Sunday.

674
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,520
» Yeah, kind of.
>> But we're only charging her for the one

675
00:47:03,119 --> 00:47:05,680
day.
>> Yeah, it's kind of what everybody else

676
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,880
does,
>> right? That Yeah, that that would be

677
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:12,000
standard, especially for a wedding.
wants to

678
00:47:10,079 --> 00:47:15,000
» set up in the morning, get married at
night.

679
00:47:15,839 --> 00:47:20,560
» That should be beautiful.
>> I know. I think.

680
00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:24,240
» So, I just need a motion.
>> I'm going to move it.

681
00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:27,920
» Okay, we got a motion.
>> Second

682
00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:33,599
» and a second to allow uh
>> Amy Hodgeges the use of facilities for

683
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:36,560
more park on date specified. Any further
discussion?

684
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:40,160
» All in favor?
>> Any opposed? That motion's carried.

685
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,960
» That's it.
>> That's it.

686
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:46,000
» Can I inject something while we're
talking about Mort Park? Apparently, I

687
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:52,160
sent you the thing. There's a bunch of
graffiti on the

688
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:55,119
picnic tables and stuff and I get I know
that there are a couple of people in

689
00:47:53,599 --> 00:47:59,359
town that go up there and pick up trash
all the time on their own that they they

690
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:02,640
do that which is great because we don't
know, you know, we're not up there all

691
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:07,440
the time. We don't see it and stuff. So,
I appreciate that. But, um especially if

692
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:11,680
this is going to happen, we probably
should make sure that we

693
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:15,200
Yeah. get rid of the graffiti you've
painted them or whatever. So maybe we

694
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:20,640
just need to put that in the back of our
mind for that so that it's fresh.

695
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,760
» Has anybody been up there lately? I
haven't.

696
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:27,720
» I have not been up there lately.
>> I haven't up there a little while.

697
00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:36,400
» Is it part of the village?
>> No.

698
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:40,960
» Murphy Hill Road.
Moore Park is on Murphy Hill Road. Okay.

699
00:48:38,720 --> 00:48:44,480
» And that's within the township. It's
not.

700
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:49,839
» So, nobody polices it.
>> Sheriff's deputies once in a while.

701
00:48:47,359 --> 00:48:52,319
» But and I don't know how many garbages
up there. I don't think there's a whole

702
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:57,359
lot of garbage is up there either
because it wasn't they weren't being

703
00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:00,319
used. So, basically, we've done bring it
in, take it out.

704
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:07,040
» That doesn't always happen.
>> Well, obviously somebody's vandalizing

705
00:49:03,119 --> 00:49:11,319
» the place. So,
He says, "How is that going to get

706
00:49:08,319 --> 00:49:11,319
addressed?"

707
00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:17,920
» Well, I mean,
>> I'll talk to Mil and talk to Jeff about

708
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:20,319
because CJ goes up there and mows once
in a while with milk.

709
00:49:19,119 --> 00:49:22,960
» Yeah. So, I'll I'll
>> So, yeah. I mean, at least there's an

710
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:27,440
eye on it when they're mowing. I don't
know how much I don't know the plowing

711
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:31,440
situation for the winter.
>> Cameras up there. What's that?

712
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:34,839
» That's all we do. We don't
>> we put cameras

713
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:39,119
Well, there is a house up there, so they
must

714
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:42,720
» It's where the star is.
>> Okay. Yeah,

715
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:46,480
» they can they can get solar solar
cameras

716
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:50,480
» and uh put a couple of them around to
see if we can catch some of this.

717
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:52,800
» You have to continue
that. So,

718
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:56,960
» they're not that expensive.
>> No. No.

719
00:49:55,440 --> 00:50:02,800
» And there's electric there because the
star

720
00:49:59,359 --> 00:50:07,760
is need
electric. Well, let's uh let's all make

721
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:09,040
it a point to
>> take a ride out.

722
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,680
» Take a ride out.
>> Supposed to be a meteor shower here this

723
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:16,319
week.
>> I mean, a good time to go.

724
00:50:13,599 --> 00:50:22,000
» If there is enough vandalism
where we're having to

725
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:28,720
spend money to fix it,
>> uh then we should have some type of

726
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:31,920
surveillance on it.
Like I say, I know that there are

727
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:34,160
several good Samaritans that have taken
it upon themselves to go up and clean it

728
00:50:33,599 --> 00:50:39,359
up.
>> Um, which is on on their own, which we

729
00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:41,359
didn't ask them to do, but I appreciate
that.

730
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:45,599
» Um,
>> and they have done that. And we haven't

731
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:49,839
had a big I mean, we've had as much
vandalism at Vets Plaza as we have more

732
00:50:48,319 --> 00:50:54,640
park if not more
>> and stuff, which is right,

733
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:58,400
» right, and stuff. But
>> we should remember that it's ours and

734
00:50:58,079 --> 00:51:02,319
Yeah,
>> pay attention, I guess, is all word is

735
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:05,319
all I'm saying.
>> Okay.

736
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:14,960
» Okay. So, that's it.
>> So, should we ask the sheriff to

737
00:51:12,559 --> 00:51:19,200
» I will drive through there.
>> I'll call um the sergeant and ask him to

738
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:23,200
swing up there.
>> Yeah. Make it better. It's actually been

739
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:27,760
they've actually been pretty good
because I called them about the swinging

740
00:51:25,599 --> 00:51:35,200
around some of the uh
>> uh town roads that we allowed for um

741
00:51:32,079 --> 00:51:38,800
ATVs and uh I actually did hear from one
resident says, "Yeah, I saw the sheriff

742
00:51:36,720 --> 00:51:42,079
come up here two weeks ago and they were
here last week." And so it does. Yeah,

743
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,920
they're
>> pretty.

744
00:51:43,839 --> 00:51:49,920
That's what I'm saying is that
>> we should ask them to incorporate it

745
00:51:48,079 --> 00:51:53,119
into their rotation.
>> I've had heard more problems about kids

746
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:57,920
on dirt bikes
>> and ebikes.

747
00:51:54,240 --> 00:52:03,119
» Oh yeah. Oh, ebikes down the village
>> right down Main Street. I thought this

748
00:51:59,839 --> 00:52:07,280
kid get slammed. Oh,
>> and supposedly they were going to do a

749
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:11,119
safety course on that, but I haven't
seen it happen yet. And it's August, so

750
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:15,599
I don't know what happened there.
>> D goes up to more park occasionally,

751
00:52:13,599 --> 00:52:18,960
too. I've seen that come down.
>> Okay. I have not noticed that. I assume

752
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:23,440
that's where they're going because
they're coming down

753
00:52:21,119 --> 00:52:29,280
Murphy Hills.
>> All right. I received via

754
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:36,079
um
uh internet access uh a request from

755
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:39,520
Brian.
>> What?

756
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:43,680
» Probably an email.
>> Yeah.

757
00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:46,000
» No, it wasn't email. It was the uh
website.

758
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:50,236
» website.
>> Oh. contact.

759
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:54,640
» Okay, gotcha.
[laughter]

760
00:52:51,359 --> 00:52:58,559
» What is he trying to say?
>> Lord,

761
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:01,839
» but you're so much a lot of abuse
tonight,

762
00:52:59,839 --> 00:53:04,400
» but it's so much fun.
>> Keep it up.

763
00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:07,960
» Well, we probably will.
>> Oh, yeah. [laughter] Yeah.

764
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:17,359
» Um, from a Brian O'Neal to place a park
bench in the memory of Lorraine O'Neal.

765
00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:22,640
Lorine O'Neal was a World War II
veteran, uh, women's

766
00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:28,240
» service corps. I can't remember exactly.
Her picture is on one of the banners.

767
00:53:25,839 --> 00:53:33,599
So, local hero.
>> Um, I told him I would approach the

768
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:36,960
board because we did have discussion on
>> three, right? So, this would be two.

769
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:41,760
» Well, here here's the caveat to that
though. He does want to make a bench and

770
00:53:39,119 --> 00:53:47,440
he wants to put a plaque on it. Um, he
said, you know, Veterans Park I

771
00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:53,040
corrected him, but uh or anywhere the
town would uh deem

772
00:53:50,880 --> 00:54:01,359
» it would be appropriate. So, I was
talking to who was I talking to? Would

773
00:53:55,839 --> 00:54:05,119
it would would a bench at breakies?
>> Me.

774
00:54:02,079 --> 00:54:08,800
» Yes, I was talking to Lynn. Uh would is
that something we'd like to do? Um I

775
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:12,000
think there is a lot of use there. I
think if she's a veteran, we should put

776
00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:15,359
it in Veterans Park, but that would give
us another avenue if somebody wanted to

777
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:18,800
do a bench. Like I wanted to do a bench
for Woody. That was when we first

778
00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:21,280
started this, but I didn't do it because
we decided that we were only going to do

779
00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:24,000
three and I thought it should be
veterans.

780
00:54:21,839 --> 00:54:28,160
» That's right. That's why I brought So
>> So I mean I think if you're not a

781
00:54:25,599 --> 00:54:32,240
veteran like what that would be a good
place to put it in breakies. I think if

782
00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:37,920
you are a veteran that we should put it
there. That's my opinion.

783
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:41,119
» All right. So um I will
But we we did we did discuss

784
00:54:39,622 --> 00:54:43,280
[clears throat]
this. It's got to be a similar bench to

785
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,920
the
>> I was going to say are they is he going

786
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:50,720
to have it built by the same
>> I I he didn't didn't we haven't got that

787
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:59,720
far yet. Um
>> um it was um Steve Craig that built

788
00:54:56,720 --> 00:54:59,720
what?

789
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:06,079
Clinger bench. Clinger.
>> Yes.

790
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:09,920
» Yeah. Clinger. Couldn't remember if it
was clear or the other side of the

791
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:12,960
family, but
so I mean then it would

792
00:55:11,359 --> 00:55:18,000
» as long as they're conforming so they
look like

793
00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:21,599
» uniform not conforming uniform support.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So um

794
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:25,359
» so
does that have to be a resolution or

795
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:27,839
just someone care to make a
>> I'll move. We got a movement

796
00:55:27,359 --> 00:55:33,839
» second
>> and a second to allow Brian O'Neal to

797
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:38,960
place a memorial bench in honor of
Lorraine O'Neal at uh Veterans Plaza.

798
00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:44,000
Any further discussion?
>> All in favor?

799
00:55:40,720 --> 00:55:53,359
» Any opposed? That's carried.
Okay. Um you probably saw in

800
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:58,319
paper recently about the D land swap
that

801
00:55:55,359 --> 00:56:05,920
I got an email just after or just before
the last board meeting about the DP

802
00:56:01,599 --> 00:56:13,680
is uh there's a there's a movement to in
the county and the watershed to allow

803
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:20,319
parcels to be swapped for different
parcels. And I didn't bring it up to the

804
00:56:16,319 --> 00:56:25,760
board last time because it's just it's
way too early. There's really no

805
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:29,119
criteria that's there's no rules
established and it's it's going to take

806
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:35,200
a long time to
>> but Shel propos

807
00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:39,599
land parcels didn't you ask Shel and
Shel proposed land parcels and loan

808
00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:43,920
» no
>> what do you mean by swapping

809
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:50,000
» so if there's
if the DEC D and again this is way too

810
00:56:48,079 --> 00:56:54,160
early there's not enough specifics yet
that's why I didn't bring it up Yeah.

811
00:56:51,359 --> 00:56:59,119
» So, I don't have specific answers for
you, but it's it's basically,

812
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:03,119
» you know, if you want if you want this
parcel back

813
00:57:01,119 --> 00:57:06,240
» back from what?
>> Instead of

814
00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:10,319
» Walt wants it back instead of D owning
it,

815
00:57:06,559 --> 00:57:13,839
» right? Give us this parcel or
that parcel and we can do a swap.

816
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:19,680
» So,
>> and basically the per purpose of that is

817
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:24,240
for development, I assume. Uh
I'm assuming again this is it's way too

818
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:29,359
early. I don't have all the answers for
you. Um and there's there's other

819
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:36,000
factors too.
DEEC has um

820
00:57:32,559 --> 00:57:40,799
not rights but uh easements on all the
parcels. So it would have to go through

821
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:44,559
that whole process too. So it isn't like
it's going to happen in a year. Who's

822
00:57:43,359 --> 00:57:45,920
proposes this? Yeah.
>> Yeah.

823
00:57:45,119 --> 00:57:51,440
» D.
>> It was it was part of the negotiations

824
00:57:48,079 --> 00:57:58,319
under the um
>> I'm skeptical.

825
00:57:53,520 --> 00:58:04,880
» The fourth side agreement um with DP
in anticipation of the uh discussions

826
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:09,040
that are going to start coming about for
the new fad and a water supply permit.

827
00:58:08,319 --> 00:58:13,440
So yeah,
>> I hope you are going to be on top of

828
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:15,119
that new fad because I don't trust that.
>> Yeah,

829
00:58:13,839 --> 00:58:18,640
» it's
>> that's why it behooves us to be on top

830
00:58:17,599 --> 00:58:23,040
of it
>> because I guarantee you there it's not

831
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,720
in our best interest.
>> No,

832
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:30,319
» he brought it up.
>> Here here's here's a here's a here's a

833
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:33,280
comment that I heard from
a resident.

834
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:39,319
» Yeah.
if they're willing to swap this parcel

835
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,319
for that parcel.

836
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:45,359
» Why did they take this parcel with water
quality as their primary factor?

837
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,640
» Yeah.
>> You know what I mean? If this if this

838
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:51,440
was so
>> important

839
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:57,119
» important for water quality, why did
they take it? Of course, it was, you

840
00:58:54,799 --> 00:59:03,520
know, it was willing buyer, willing
seller, but it was identified. Um my my

841
00:59:01,599 --> 00:59:09,040
take too and this is just an opinion
again it's way too early way too early.

842
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:12,880
If it ever did come about, I would think
that there'd be more restrictions on

843
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:19,280
those parcel. There'd be continued
restrictions on those parcels because

844
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:26,799
» it it all depends what their hidden
motive is. And I would advise

845
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:31,280
that we really search for the motive
because when it comes down, it's going

846
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:36,319
to come down fast and furious, you know.
>> Okay. and and then and and then we're

847
00:59:34,079 --> 00:59:42,400
going to be backpedaling.
>> Do we talk to Penny and say

848
00:59:40,319 --> 00:59:49,359
what's your
thoughts on where

849
00:59:45,359 --> 00:59:51,440
would be strategic for development
in Walton?

850
00:59:50,079 --> 00:59:55,760
» Well, I don't know if I don't know if it
would be Penny. Um

851
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:59,040
» she's
that that would be us.

852
00:59:57,119 --> 01:00:03,119
» Give us a list of
>> Yeah. I mean, I don't know sitting here

853
01:00:00,799 --> 01:00:06,559
what parcel that would be. So, she might
say, "Well, this is adjacent to this and

854
01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:10,799
develop
>> as as it develops. As it develops, we'll

855
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:14,079
have that list of parcels
>> and we'll have a map."

856
01:00:12,319 --> 01:00:16,079
» But who has the list of
>> Well, Penny could come up with the list

857
01:00:15,359 --> 01:00:20,799
of parcels, but
>> of the currently owned

858
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:21,839
» planning board would be able to
decide.

859
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,079
» Yeah.
>> Right.

860
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:29,680
» Yeah.
>> We don't we're not going to know sitting

861
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:32,880
here partial. Kevin, I can't answer the
list.

862
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,640
» It's still in its infancy.
>> Yeah.

863
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:37,920
» Yeah. But yeah,
>> put the language.

864
01:00:35,839 --> 01:00:42,000
» The governor already passed a
moratorium.

865
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:44,640
» That's what it sounds like on on
uh what's the name of

866
01:00:43,839 --> 01:00:51,839
» data centers?
>> Data centers. Okay. And then there's a

867
01:00:47,680 --> 01:01:00,240
talk about the floating solar panels.
And then there is the talk about solar

868
01:00:55,119 --> 01:01:05,920
panels in state in city property. Okay.
So I guarantee you

869
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:09,760
» that this is linked guarantee it is.
>> Oh there's Yeah. Yeah.

870
01:01:07,839 --> 01:01:12,960
» City isn't going to do anything without
uh

871
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:17,200
» I I know but but what I think is that we
need to

872
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:18,720
» by the next meeting we need to have a
map.

873
01:01:18,079 --> 01:01:24,240
» Yeah.
>> That state that that shows

874
01:01:21,599 --> 01:01:27,359
all of these possible properties
>> knowing them they already have an eye on

875
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:29,599
a parcel that exactly
>> and more than one

876
01:01:28,559 --> 01:01:36,880
» more than one yeah
>> and have specific purpose for it

877
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:40,319
» so the thing is I don't have a problem
to consider is so if they put

878
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:43,119
restrictions on their property why can't
we put restrictions on our property if

879
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:46,160
there's a swap
>> well here's the problem

880
01:01:44,559 --> 01:01:51,760
» to eliminate the concern
>> there you go no solar on this if we swap

881
01:01:48,559 --> 01:01:56,079
can a Right.
>> Can I give us a map that shows

882
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:59,760
» and like I have it colored that shows
all the city owned property.

883
01:01:57,839 --> 01:02:04,160
» Actually, um property might be
>> We should have that. We should be able

884
01:02:03,359 --> 01:02:07,520
to get
>> a large map propert.

885
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:10,160
» Yeah, that should be pretty easy.
>> I can talk to Spencer and say

886
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:13,040
» he can, you know,
>> then we'll at least we'll have we'll

887
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:17,480
we'll be ahead of the game a little
Right. Right.

888
01:02:13,839 --> 01:02:17,480
» Well, we'll be aware

889
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:21,839
we won't we won't know what the
identified parcels are.

890
01:02:20,319 --> 01:02:24,160
» Yeah. But the thing is that we can
identify partials that and say, "Hey,

891
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:28,000
this is
>> once you look at it, you look at the

892
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:31,839
topography,
>> you can you can tell the things that

893
01:02:30,079 --> 01:02:35,520
they can and they cannot do, right?"
>> Well, and and that's why they're talking

894
01:02:33,839 --> 01:02:38,720
about swapping.
>> Yeah.

895
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:40,079
» But
>> Huh.

896
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:43,280
» I'm just trying
>> I guess I don't I don't understand. I

897
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:48,079
don't understand the whole situation
because we don't know yet.

898
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:51,200
» If there's a parcel that they want,
>> the town doesn't own any part. I mean, a

899
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:55,359
limited few, right?
>> So, I'm assuming that property is going

900
01:02:52,799 --> 01:02:58,559
to be owned by a private land owner.
>> Yeah. But they can't buy anymore, right?

901
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:04,079
Not buying any.
>> So, so, so say this is the property the

902
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:06,799
city already owns. This is the property
they want that the private land owner

903
01:03:06,079 --> 01:03:09,280
wants,
>> right?

904
01:03:07,359 --> 01:03:12,160
» What's how's the city going to acquire
this and do a swap? They going to pay

905
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:15,680
this
pay them for this and just let us have

906
01:03:14,079 --> 01:03:20,640
this back to go on the tax.
>> Kevin, I wish I could answer. It's It's

907
01:03:18,319 --> 01:03:22,799
way too early,
right?

908
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:26,799
» I think it's time that we revisit.
>> Well, it was discussed. Yes. All it was

909
01:03:25,039 --> 01:03:32,480
was brought up in the same kind of
fashion I brought this up.

910
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:36,799
» There's no real detailed discussion. Um,
>> but there are other count other towns

911
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:39,839
that have looked at their properties and
identified properties that they might be

912
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:42,880
willing to swap. Correct.
>> Yeah. Yeah. like Delhi I think did and I

913
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:46,880
think there were like four of them.
>> Yeah. But well guess me I mean we can

914
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:50,000
look at a map and say wow we could give
this up but if it's a private land owner

915
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:53,839
how the hell we know if he wants to give
up his but like we own the breakies lot

916
01:03:52,319 --> 01:03:58,319
we could say we'll give that up. You
want to buy that give us back a more

917
01:03:56,559 --> 01:04:02,000
developable
place because we can't develop the

918
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:05,359
breakies lot anyway.
>> Our our our lots. Yeah. Which are fewer.

919
01:04:04,319 --> 01:04:06,799
» Right. It's going to be few and far
between.

920
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,680
» Right. Yeah. There's
>> like you said I think it's too early.

921
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:13,520
» Yeah. It's way too early.
I will I will find out. I will get a map

922
01:04:11,599 --> 01:04:17,920
and then I
>> I was reluctant to bring it up because

923
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:20,160
» I think we need to relook at the
designation in our parcels.

924
01:04:19,599 --> 01:04:23,039
» The who?
>> The Ham

925
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:27,440
Hamlet. Hamlet.
>> It's interesting that you say that

926
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:30,480
because my next comment
>> that I wrote in that I just got a call

927
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:33,520
from.
>> Okay, we're done with the land swap

928
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,280
stuff. Okay,
>> I got a call.

929
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:40,880
» Did you hear what she said? said that we
need a a map that has our parcels and

930
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:42,640
their parcels so we can see if there's
>> you mean town owned parcels.

931
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,839
» Yeah.
>> Oh, okay.

932
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:49,920
» And the and the
hamlet designation. [clears throat]

933
01:04:48,799 --> 01:04:54,400
» That's a different subject.
>> Yeah. Yeah. This is different,

934
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:57,359
» right?
>> It's not by

935
01:04:55,839 --> 01:05:03,400
» But but yes, you're right. because that
is what is reserved for uh future

936
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,400
develop.

937
01:05:04,319 --> 01:05:06,000
» Yeah.
>> Um

938
01:05:05,599 --> 01:05:10,640
» good point.
>> I got a call and I can't remember her

939
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:16,400
name but she is I think she's the
coordinator for the whack easements

940
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:23,920
» and she wants to evidently there's a lot
of uh confusion and misunderstanding of

941
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:29,920
what wack easements can do or can't do
and she wanted to know if she'd like to

942
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:33,520
and uh do a uh
>> presentation

943
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:36,799
» an hour brief presentation
>> on what

944
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:41,039
» you know what that's that
>> oh I know where it went I I I read right

945
01:05:39,359 --> 01:05:45,599
between the lines but I say I will bring
it up to the board if that's something

946
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:47,760
you guys are interested in we can
schedule a uh

947
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,559
» um
>> I mean I don't think it hurts us to know

948
01:05:49,119 --> 01:05:55,039
that
>> if we're going to do it though if it's

949
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:57,359
an hour presentation we should have the
presentation

950
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,599
before
>> before the meeting at 5.

951
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:04,559
» Okay.
>> So, we can meet at 6 and you need to

952
01:06:02,319 --> 01:06:05,839
advertise to the public. You'd like to
find out more.

953
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:10,319
» Yeah.
>> We're going to have this presentation

954
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:14,000
between five and six. Whatever.
>> Make it a public meeting.

955
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:17,559
» Do you want it at the next meeting?
Meeting in September.

956
01:06:21,039 --> 01:06:27,599
» Publicational meeting.
It's anformational meeting.

957
01:06:25,599 --> 01:06:32,000
» Okay. And the
>> public hearing is too

958
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:35,599
» specific, right? So we can just
>> we don't have to call it that.

959
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:40,440
» No, just a meeting
>> because we're not going to really take

960
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:40,440
any public input.

961
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:47,440
» Yeah.
>> September for Well, let me confirm with

962
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:52,160
her. September 14th at five o'clock.
>> All right.

963
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:54,480
» And what is it? WACk. the wet watershed
egg council

964
01:06:53,039 --> 01:06:59,960
» wa
>> who who is it

965
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:59,960
» I can't remember her name

966
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:13,839
» because I wonder about that too that
that was one of my big concerns with

967
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:19,280
that is what they're
trying to get if it was a solar

968
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:22,640
that's what
>> well doc has We don't know what the

969
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:25,440
motive is,
>> right?

970
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:28,400
» Yeah, but we need to be able
>> Maybe they just want to be, you know,

971
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:33,079
good partners.
>> Yeah, right.

972
01:07:29,599 --> 01:07:33,079
» I doubt that.

973
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:43,920
» We could. So, yeah. 5:00 on the 14th.
Yes.

974
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:46,640
» Pencil it in. Don't
>> That's right.

975
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:55,880
» That's just our next meeting, right?
>> Okay. So after two or three months of

976
01:07:51,839 --> 01:07:55,880
no activity whatsoever,

977
01:07:56,400 --> 01:08:03,520
Tamara puts on Facebook.
>> Well, that was smart.

978
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:10,000
» Thursday the ad for court security.
>> Yeah,

979
01:08:05,359 --> 01:08:15,520
» I got six six emails or six contacts.
>> We had we al we already had one person

980
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:19,279
come in and get the application.
>> So,

981
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:21,359
Yeah. Well,
>> so um

982
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:24,960
» what is new?
>> What here? The process that I'm telling

983
01:08:23,199 --> 01:08:30,400
them
>> is

984
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:34,239
uh come in and get an application.
>> Next month,

985
01:08:31,359 --> 01:08:39,839
» we'll get the application and Carly's
going to Carly's going to review the

986
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:44,000
» requirements. [laughter]
>> Yeah, Carly's going to review the uh um

987
01:08:43,279 --> 01:08:46,640
requirements.
>> Where where did we land on armed versus

988
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:47,759
is unarmed.
>> We're armed.

989
01:08:47,199 --> 01:08:50,000
» Armed. Okay.
>> Definitely armed. Yes.

990
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:53,600
» But it's a
>> Does the application have

991
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:57,600
» civil service thing, isn't it?
>> It's the

992
01:08:55,679 --> 01:09:02,799
regular application. So, I think it ends
up asking what

993
01:09:00,159 --> 01:09:05,920
» like what extra licenses or anything
that they have.

994
01:09:03,679 --> 01:09:09,920
» But isn't it a civil service position so
that they have to take a

995
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:13,440
» test
>> or they have to take a something?

996
01:09:11,759 --> 01:09:17,279
somebody who told me that they were
looking at applying that there was some

997
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:20,080
kind of
>> there's a training

998
01:09:18,319 --> 01:09:24,080
» training or something that they didn't
want to pay for. So that will come back

999
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:27,199
to us too. Yeah. But if they meet
certain requirements that they already

1000
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:31,520
have. Yes.
>> The two people that I retired police

1001
01:09:29,440 --> 01:09:38,000
officer they don't have spoke with
>> are either retired police officers

1002
01:09:34,719 --> 01:09:42,319
» currently trained police officers. So I
don't think

1003
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:48,799
» Huh. I don't think the uh the
requirements for the training are going

1004
01:09:45,199 --> 01:09:55,199
to be hard to hurdle but there may be
some other she'll check in on the uh

1005
01:09:51,600 --> 01:10:00,239
» I got a read service but there there are
yeah there are exemptions to that and

1006
01:09:57,679 --> 01:10:02,800
being a police officer active or retired
is

1007
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:08,480
» a background check and all that good
stuff.

1008
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:12,239
I got to think I'm sure if they're if
they're certified and they they have

1009
01:10:10,239 --> 01:10:17,520
maintained their certification
>> background check.

1010
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:19,920
» It is up to us to do our due diligence.
That's why I called you today. Make sure

1011
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:24,480
you have that.
>> Chris Chris told me before the meeting

1012
01:10:22,480 --> 01:10:30,320
that he may know a bunch of
>> Yes. Yep. He said there's I guess

1013
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:35,520
there's a company that does
>> several of the courts in the

1014
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:37,600
» county that provide court security. Some
company.

1015
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:40,800
» Do you know what it's called?
>> Uh he did say I can't remember what it

1016
01:10:40,159 --> 01:10:44,400
said.
>> What was that? What? Remember I laughed?

1017
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:47,840
» What was that?
>> Oh, what what Chris brought up? Like

1018
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:52,560
booty security.
>> Yeah, booty security. And I laughed and

1019
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:54,960
then like he goes, "No, I'm serious. I'm
serious. I've actually seen their

1020
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:59,679
trucks.
>> Okay.

1021
01:10:56,320 --> 01:11:02,560
» Who's watching your booty when
the back of

1022
01:11:00,480 --> 01:11:05,280
» But he said they do a bunch of cords.
>> Yes.

1023
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:10,400
» Yeah.
>> Imagine, you know, three three months no

1024
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:16,960
activity whatsoever because we
advertised in one location and a simple

1025
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:18,640
Facebook post. Yet that's
>> that's good.

1026
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:22,480
» Watch our videos.
>> Okay.

1027
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:25,280
» All right. That's all I have. Um any uh
I've got a couple of things

1028
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:31,760
» committee committee reports.
>> No, it's not exactly a committee report.

1029
01:11:28,719 --> 01:11:35,760
one uh we've got a terrible problem with
this Japanese notweed

1030
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:40,640
» and it's
prevalent in every township in the

1031
01:11:38,159 --> 01:11:44,880
county and I think it's something that
the county should address how we're

1032
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:50,719
going to deal with it because it's
gotten to the point where it's driving

1033
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:54,480
out and killing all of the native uh
environmental grasses and trees and

1034
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:57,920
stuff.
You know, you don't see much. We used to

1035
01:11:56,000 --> 01:12:00,880
have a lot of shoeac for example all
over the place and you don't see that

1036
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:03,120
now because it's been
>> crowded out by

1037
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:05,920
» it's very invasive.
>> Yes.

1038
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:09,679
» By the Japanese notweed
>> and it's hard to get rid of

1039
01:12:07,440 --> 01:12:13,440
» well
they've done a very excellent job of it.

1040
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:16,880
It's probably not legal the way they did
it.

1041
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:21,600
» No, but my prospect house behind it the
the whole yard was that when we first

1042
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:26,800
and we chopped and mowed and you know
and we finally got it but it three years

1043
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:30,239
of continuing mowing to
>> not even not even mowing. You have to

1044
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:34,480
cover it and yeah
>> you had to chop it sometimes certain

1045
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:38,080
times of year and yeah
>> but I mean

1046
01:12:36,480 --> 01:12:41,600
it wasn't like you could do it once and
you don't

1047
01:12:38,719 --> 01:12:45,520
» I I can't remember
you spray with

1048
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:50,719
» No, you can't spray this near the water.
>> Well, I understand that

1049
01:12:47,679 --> 01:12:56,280
» I spray it. They years ago when he when
he

1050
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:56,280
» flowers

1051
01:12:57,679 --> 01:13:00,800
but anyway.
>> Yeah.

1052
01:12:59,199 --> 01:13:03,360
» All right. I got I got that
>> toxic water.

1053
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:05,520
» Yeah.
>> Thing that I had the other thing that I

1054
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:09,520
had.
>> You don't get one.

1055
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:13,280
» No, I get two tonight.
>> Because you didn't have any

1056
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:16,640
» one side of the roof to the other
>> because the roads.

1057
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:21,760
» Hold on. Hold on. Doc
>> L's got the floor. The other thing uh

1058
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:26,960
that I think we should explore uh a
couple of the towns over in the other

1059
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:32,880
end of the county uh Roxberry and
Middletown specifically have been

1060
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:41,360
successful getting block grants
community block grants uh of the uh town

1061
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:45,360
of Middletown uh Glenn Fartner's just
finishing one up now where they got

1062
01:13:43,440 --> 01:13:52,880
$500,000
and they put the money restoring

1063
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:58,480
uh or up I don't not restoring exactly
but I guess making them more livable

1064
01:13:55,199 --> 01:14:04,159
farm houses and stuff in the rural area
and it's 100% covered I don't know if I

1065
01:14:01,199 --> 01:14:09,520
don't remember if the town has it has to
put up part of it but doesn't cost

1066
01:14:06,480 --> 01:14:12,080
» go to who's the underwriter or the grant
>> it comes to the town

1067
01:14:10,719 --> 01:14:16,480
» but who's the underwriter
>> it's got to be a state like CBDGB or

1068
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:21,040
whatever they call
Yeah, it might be.

1069
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:27,199
» I I'll I'll ask Glenn what process he
took and see if see if there's a window

1070
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:33,600
» opening period.
>> Yeah. Yeah.

1071
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:37,920
» Uh he had uh help from Mark
or Mrark, however you say it over there.

1072
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:42,719
» Mark,
>> it's the uh

1073
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:47,120
» Arville.
Yeah. Okay. They wrote the grants I

1074
01:14:45,199 --> 01:14:51,920
think for him or helped him with them.
>> Okay.

1075
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:55,600
» But the idea is to take these uh you
know we have we talk about Mrs. Smith

1076
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:58,080
who lives in the village here can't
afford her house. Well, you know

1077
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,600
» can't afford a new roof.
>> New roof.

1078
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:03,440
» Yeah. That stuff.
>> This is

1079
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:08,480
» exactly the grant to the village is for
the village. If we get a grant for the

1080
01:15:05,440 --> 01:15:12,400
township, we can incorporate both
residences in the town and in the

1081
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:17,440
village as well.
>> And I was asked a, and this would be a

1082
01:15:14,719 --> 01:15:23,280
good point for something like that. I
was asked about a trailer, two trailers

1083
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:28,520
that basically have been abandoned,
garbage, food,

1084
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:28,520
» marin

1085
01:15:29,440 --> 01:15:34,159
Jess is on it.
>> Okay. So, and but how do you get that

1086
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:38,239
cleaned up kind of thing and stuff like
that? And like when we couldn't even get

1087
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:42,080
them to mow the lawn, remember by shick
and stuff and because but I don't know

1088
01:15:40,480 --> 01:15:48,480
if anybody's paying their taxes on that.
So you're on that Mark.

1089
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:54,000
» Mark. Yeah. I had a
>> good

1090
01:15:50,480 --> 01:15:57,600
She uh hit me up the other day. Yes. I
told her we were going through

1091
01:15:55,120 --> 01:16:00,640
transition with codes. She understood.
She understood. She goes, "We may not be

1092
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:04,239
able to get them to know the law, but we
can get them to clean up the properties,

1093
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:08,480
» especially if it was abandoned or
whatever." I would think and

1094
01:16:06,719 --> 01:16:12,480
I don't know what we can do, but I would
ask and I forgot until you just were

1095
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:19,360
saying that.
Well, that that's a good point,

1096
01:16:15,440 --> 01:16:24,480
Carly. If we make contact with a
property owner

1097
01:16:20,719 --> 01:16:29,840
» who has garbage all the time
and we contract with someone to go clean

1098
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:31,520
it, can we add that bill onto their
taxes?

1099
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:35,360
» I thought we couldn't go on their
property.

1100
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:39,040
» You have to um
>> you have to the code officer has to

1101
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:41,360
serve them tickets,
>> right,

1102
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:45,679
» first? You have to give them opportunity
to clean it up. Then if they do not do

1103
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:48,239
it, then I believe it is in our local
law where we can

1104
01:16:47,440 --> 01:16:50,960
» go on clean
>> go on and clean it.

1105
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:53,199
» We just couldn't mow it.
>> Say it again.

1106
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:57,199
» We just couldn't mow it because we
talked about that long time ago with

1107
01:16:55,120 --> 01:17:00,960
that other property.
>> The other property we didn't want to

1108
01:16:59,440 --> 01:17:03,960
» we didn't want to spend the money to do
it.

1109
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:12,480
» Just like um there was a a property
where the house was in disrepair.

1110
01:17:10,480 --> 01:17:15,840
Uh, and and didn't we tear it down and
then we added it to their taxes?

1111
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,679
» Yeah.
>> Yeah.

1112
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:20,320
» The same same concept
>> going up lower third.

1113
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:23,560
» Yeah.
>> I don't

1114
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:29,679
I don't remember how it came. So, but
they could afford to do it. They weren't

1115
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:32,560
responding.
>> I think there was a bar we were afraid

1116
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:37,679
was going to follow.
>> Yeah. So, yeah, we tore it down and then

1117
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:40,640
uh put it on their taxes.
>> Okay.

1118
01:17:38,719 --> 01:17:47,400
» All right. Anything else? No, that
covers it for this month.

1119
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:47,400
» All right. Uh, any committee reports?

1120
01:17:47,679 --> 01:17:53,120
Okay. Uh, approval of abstracts. Anybody
care to make a motion?

1121
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:55,440
» I'll make a motion.
>> Second.

1122
01:17:53,840 --> 01:18:00,480
» Get a motion and a second to approve the
abstracts. Is any further discussion?

1123
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:04,640
All in favor?
>> Any opposed?

1124
01:18:02,239 --> 01:18:08,320
» That motion's carried. And we do need to
go in executive session to discuss

1125
01:18:06,480 --> 01:18:10,000
negotiations. Someone
>> I make a move we do today.

1126
01:18:09,440 --> 01:18:15,360
» I'll second it.
>> We got a motion in a second to go into

1127
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:19,760
executive session for negotiations.
Any further discussion? All in favor?

1128
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:23,520
» Any opposed?
>> That motion's carried.

1129
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:26,400
» All right.
>> Thank you, ladies.

1130
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:32,480
» I don't believe we're going to make any
Wait a minute. Uh Tamara,

1131
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:36,000
» no action will be taken after night.
Thank you.

1132
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:36,000
» Thank you, Sue.