1 00:03:06,879 --> 00:03:09,440 board workshop. But 2 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,159 um thank you all for coming. Uh we got 3 00:03:12,159 --> 00:03:14,879 two agenda items tonight for this. Up 4 00:03:14,879 --> 00:03:20,229 first, 5 00:03:20,239 --> 00:03:24,000 Michael. Uh let you take it away. Sounds 6 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,480 good. Uh good evening, guys. Um I'm 7 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,640 Michael. Um the other intern Alana 8 00:03:28,640 --> 00:03:29,680 couldn't be here with us tonight 9 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,519 unfortunately. So I'll be presenting on 10 00:03:31,519 --> 00:03:34,480 both of our behalfs. Um and just we 11 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:35,360 wanted to start out with like a little 12 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,599 bit of about us. So I'm going to RPI in 13 00:03:37,599 --> 00:03:40,080 the fall which is um for architecture. 14 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,680 And um biggest reason why I was 15 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,760 interested in this program specifically 16 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,720 was because of um the built and envir um 17 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,400 the built environment and the municipal management contain skills that 18 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,000 are pretty relevant to architecture. I 19 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,319 feel like and I know the town works with 20 00:03:54,319 --> 00:03:56,319 architects and people in that kind of a 21 00:03:56,319 --> 00:03:58,400 general space. So I think seeing it from 22 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,480 all sides and not just specifically 23 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:01,840 architecture was a really important 24 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,159 thing for me to uh glean some um 25 00:04:04,159 --> 00:04:06,000 information on and I really definitely 26 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,879 did that in um this internship. Um and I 27 00:04:08,879 --> 00:04:10,159 feel like the uh built environment and 28 00:04:10,159 --> 00:04:11,920 the complexities of working with it on a 29 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,760 m municipal level um are extremely 30 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,639 important to um any major um in like 31 00:04:16,639 --> 00:04:18,639 sustainability or um community 32 00:04:18,639 --> 00:04:20,880 development. And on Alana, she's going 33 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,120 to um Miami University uh to study uh 34 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,440 geography and environmental science and 35 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,720 she has a um minor in GIS. And she was 36 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,479 really drawn to the internship because 37 00:04:30,479 --> 00:04:32,960 of the uh GI 38 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,280 because she wants to um uh gain 39 00:04:35,280 --> 00:04:37,919 experience in the public sector and um 40 00:04:37,919 --> 00:04:39,840 work in the uh the field which is really 41 00:04:39,840 --> 00:04:42,560 exciting for both of us. Um and then 42 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,040 just like a brief overview of what this 43 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,479 summer we over 250 out inspections uh 44 00:04:48,479 --> 00:04:50,080 which uh included filling out reports 45 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,199 and documentation for each specific out. 46 00:04:53,199 --> 00:04:55,440 Um we performed some swimp inspe site 47 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,440 inspections. We did sewer storm lateral 48 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,919 inspections, downspout inspections, and 49 00:04:59,919 --> 00:05:01,520 then we did a site and conditions 50 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,360 assessment of um properties on like the 51 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,000 waterfront sandbar area of Lake Road and 52 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,919 then created a um executive summary 53 00:05:07,919 --> 00:05:10,240 report of our findings there. And then 54 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,160 we also worked a little bit on some CSC 55 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,199 climate smart community uh research. Um 56 00:05:15,199 --> 00:05:16,880 and then we um performed some research 57 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,280 into the residential um park districts 58 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:21,280 and license agreements um and created 59 00:05:21,280 --> 00:05:23,120 someformational materials for them for 60 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,680 the uh residents. Um and then Alana also 61 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,000 worked on a mobile uh vendor permit and 62 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,039 conservation board fly. 63 00:05:31,039 --> 00:05:33,039 Um just to start off uh for our alfall 64 00:05:33,039 --> 00:05:34,639 inspection project. This kind of spanned 65 00:05:34,639 --> 00:05:37,520 the entire summer. And um for those of 66 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,360 you who don't know, the outfalls are um 67 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,840 points where um from the storm drains 68 00:05:41,840 --> 00:05:43,039 from the streets in the neighborhoods 69 00:05:43,039 --> 00:05:45,440 drain into uh streams that then connect 70 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,840 to uh places like the Bay or Lake 71 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:50,240 Ontario. Um and what we're looking for 72 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,560 during these inspections is like basics 73 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,960 um uh conditions assessment like cracks 74 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,960 or rusting or anything that's could go 75 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:58,800 wrong with the flow of water through 76 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,520 them. and we took pictures of each uh 77 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,000 one that we did and looked at as builts 78 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,759 for the easements of where the town uh 79 00:06:05,759 --> 00:06:07,199 where we could get to access to them 80 00:06:07,199 --> 00:06:09,280 through people's uh yards and and stuff 81 00:06:09,280 --> 00:06:12,880 like that. Um we uh utilize GIS and 82 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,880 survey 123 for our inspections. And as 83 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,800 you can see like from this map, it's a 84 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,800 little confusing. It's kind of um a lot 85 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,120 going on. So we tried to neaten it up a 86 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:25,590 little 87 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,199 and 88 00:06:27,199 --> 00:06:29,600 an example of like a neighbor 89 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,319 kind of the same after 90 00:06:32,319 --> 00:06:34,160 kind of just like narrowed uh where the 91 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,919 outfalls are, made it more specific for 92 00:06:35,919 --> 00:06:38,080 uh town function. 93 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:42,240 Um we were uh swiping which are um we 94 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,639 both received our uh 4-hour erosion and 95 00:06:44,639 --> 00:06:47,120 sediment control training um and then we 96 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,800 just kind of went through the town um 97 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,280 and inance with the storm water and 98 00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:54,960 sediment control practices. So we were 99 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,960 looking at street cleanliness, silt 100 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,240 socks, silt fences, uh uh the plant 101 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,599 cover of each of these uh plots and the 102 00:07:03,599 --> 00:07:06,240 concrete wash out areas. And then kind 103 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,000 of similar to that, we did the lateral 104 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,840 and downspout inspections, which um go 105 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,880 to each specific lots. And these are all 106 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,720 both using survey 123, which is kind of 107 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,560 new for the town at this scale where we 108 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,720 uh kind of streamline the process of 109 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,680 inspections a little bit. So that was 110 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,720 and it was pretty help. So, uh, laterals 111 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,360 are just for, um, connecting to the, um, 112 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,840 the storm and sewer mains. And then, uh, 113 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,000 for the downspouts are just on the sides 114 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,080 of the, uh, built on the sides of the 115 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,280 houses that, uh, for our, for water, uh, 116 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:38,960 rainfall. 117 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,759 And then we also use survey 123 again 118 00:07:41,759 --> 00:07:43,360 for the conditions assessments of Lake 119 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,680 Road. So we took photos and did basic uh 120 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,759 conditions um analysis through the 121 00:07:47,759 --> 00:07:48,720 questions that we had already 122 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,599 established in a form. But using survey 123 00:07:51,599 --> 00:07:54,080 123 really streamline the process for us 124 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,479 and uh we found out where site 125 00:07:56,479 --> 00:07:57,919 conditions were good, site conditions 126 00:07:57,919 --> 00:08:01,039 were bad or poor and this will help uh 127 00:08:01,039 --> 00:08:03,680 in the assessors or um code enforcement 128 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,440 to see what where there code violations 129 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:06,960 or whether there's room for improvement 130 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,479 on Lake Road. Um and then we of this we 131 00:08:10,479 --> 00:08:12,720 expected 61 properties along the road 132 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,560 and then produced an executive summary 133 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,080 report for the town to use in the 134 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,080 future. 135 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,400 And then for climate smart communities 136 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,080 research, we kind of piggybacked on what 137 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,080 the town has already been doing for that 138 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,520 and kind of addressed some of the town 139 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,120 board uh previous concerns or um and 140 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:30,879 just kind of helped the town figure out 141 00:08:30,879 --> 00:08:34,159 what to go going forward with this. So, 142 00:08:34,159 --> 00:08:36,320 we figured out that the town had already 143 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,760 completed like 82 to 239 um points 144 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,919 towards the CSSE registration and 145 00:08:41,919 --> 00:08:43,279 certification which we think were on 146 00:08:43,279 --> 00:08:45,120 like the higher end of that. So, we only 147 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,279 need 120 to be bronze certified or 148 00:08:47,279 --> 00:08:50,399 registered and um we kind of also went 149 00:08:50,399 --> 00:08:52,000 through some of the town board concerns. 150 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,839 So, the cost for being involved because 151 00:08:53,839 --> 00:08:55,600 Webster has already completed most of 152 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,600 the necessary actions to be involved. It 153 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,440 would require pretty much no extra cost 154 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,320 for us to register at least. Um and then 155 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:03,839 that for the extra burden on the town 156 00:09:03,839 --> 00:09:06,720 staff, we've kind of queried other uh 157 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,399 municipalities in the area that are 158 00:09:08,399 --> 00:09:11,120 either registered or certified and most 159 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,120 of them have kind of taken the 160 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:14,800 responsibility of the task force for the 161 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,000 cse and given it to pre-existing boards 162 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,320 like a conservation board or any other 163 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,000 board they have. And we found that a lot 164 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,080 of the municipality great success with 165 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,000 that. So there wasn't really necessarily 166 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,720 anything any for a lot of grant 167 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,360 applications and a lot of the grants um 168 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:32,800 were looking for things that made 169 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,320 Webster stand out and one of the things 170 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,080 that they looked at was cse 171 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,040 certification or um 172 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,680 boost our um eligibility for grants in 173 00:09:41,680 --> 00:09:43,600 the future. 174 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,839 Um and then next I kind of uh went 175 00:09:45,839 --> 00:09:48,160 through um because we had some struggles 176 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,399 with uh uh people having like pretty 177 00:09:50,399 --> 00:09:52,320 basic questions about park districts or 178 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:53,920 license agreements. So, we thought it 179 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:55,920 would be helpful for the town to create 180 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,839 some brochures or someformational flyers 181 00:09:57,839 --> 00:09:59,680 for the residents to kind of go through 182 00:09:59,680 --> 00:10:03,440 and show uh what these things are 183 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,040 because some most of the residents don't 184 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,320 know they either live in a park 185 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:07,680 district, they don't know about like the 186 00:10:07,680 --> 00:10:09,519 maintenance information of how that is 187 00:10:09,519 --> 00:10:12,320 and like the kind of tax with that. So, 188 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:13,600 we thought these were both really 189 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,920 helpfulformational um materials for 190 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,079 residents to kind of gain clarity on 191 00:10:18,079 --> 00:10:19,360 that. 192 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,440 And then Alana worked a lot on the 193 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,519 mobile vendor permit, which we already 194 00:10:23,519 --> 00:10:25,360 have kind of a system for that. But this 195 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,839 was targeted more towards mobile vendors 196 00:10:27,839 --> 00:10:31,200 who want to like pop up on uh town owned 197 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,240 land, public land, and really streamline 198 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,240 the process for uh and set a precedent 199 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,000 for going going forward, what we could 200 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,320 do with uh mobile vendors in the future 201 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,800 that are separate from events or big 202 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,399 widescale food truck um like events. And 203 00:10:46,399 --> 00:10:48,000 then she also worked on a conservation 204 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,519 board flyer because a lot of town 205 00:10:49,519 --> 00:10:51,440 residents may not know that we have a 206 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,200 conservation board or any other boards 207 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:54,880 for that matter. So we thought that 208 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,040 creating like a basicformational flyer 209 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,680 would be really helpful there. And then 210 00:10:59,680 --> 00:11:01,200 at the end we just kind of want to go 211 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:02,480 through our highlights. So Alana's 212 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:03,920 highlights. She said that she gained a 213 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,200 much better understanding of how a 214 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,120 municipality runs and the relationship 215 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,440 between the town and residents. and she 216 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:10,320 thought it was really interesting to see 217 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,079 all the different departments that work 218 00:11:12,079 --> 00:11:14,240 um together in the town and kind of go 219 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,160 through the day-to-day practices of 220 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,560 municipalities. Um we utilize a lot of 221 00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:21,200 survey 123 which is really cool and 222 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:22,560 specifically for her cuz she's going 223 00:11:22,560 --> 00:11:24,399 into GIS field. She thought that was 224 00:11:24,399 --> 00:11:27,440 really a like helpful uh thing to glean 225 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,040 some insight on. And then her uh for 226 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:32,959 professional communications use 227 00:11:32,959 --> 00:11:34,640 formatting the executive summary report 228 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,640 for Lake Road as an example. We did a 229 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,800 lot of those kinds of you know computer 230 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,560 work in the office which is really 231 00:11:40,560 --> 00:11:42,560 information like really helpful for any 232 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:44,560 other jobs that we have going forward. 233 00:11:44,560 --> 00:11:46,240 Her favorite project was conducting 234 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:47,440 research on the climate smart 235 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,880 communities program and she also loved 236 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,640 doing the outfalls. She liked looking at 237 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,880 the different um places in Webster cuz 238 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:56,959 she's not from she's from Victor so she 239 00:11:56,959 --> 00:11:58,800 really liked seeing the you know inner 240 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,120 workings of a town that uh she had a lot 241 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,120 didn't have a lot of information on. And 242 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,519 then for me, I really really appreciated 243 00:12:05,519 --> 00:12:07,360 the different complexities of municipal 244 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:08,959 infrastructure. For example, we went out 245 00:12:08,959 --> 00:12:10,639 with Keith one day to like go and see 246 00:12:10,639 --> 00:12:13,279 the pave the repaving of Bay Road. And 247 00:12:13,279 --> 00:12:14,639 you don't realize a lot of people don't 248 00:12:14,639 --> 00:12:17,279 realize how much goes into that uh into 249 00:12:17,279 --> 00:12:19,200 the coordination of those like projects. 250 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,360 And that's a pretty small project on the 251 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,000 scale of the town. So seeing how much 252 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,079 comp like how complex all these inner 253 00:12:26,079 --> 00:12:27,360 workings are was really really 254 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,160 fascinating and also got a holistic view 255 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,000 of um coordinating with different 256 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,680 departments and staff through our time 257 00:12:33,680 --> 00:12:36,000 here. So we didn't just you know seclude 258 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,200 ourselves the engineering department 259 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,120 went into planning and zoning and a 260 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,639 little bit of code enforcement and all the other uh staff members that work 261 00:12:42,639 --> 00:12:45,839 here and then also just helped us uh you 262 00:12:45,839 --> 00:12:48,720 know basic office dynamics of you know 263 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,959 working in the office with people work 264 00:12:50,959 --> 00:12:53,279 hours uh this is my first 40hour like 265 00:12:53,279 --> 00:12:55,519 workday that I've done so definitely 266 00:12:55,519 --> 00:12:57,360 like a wakeup call there and then you 267 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,279 know [laughter] 268 00:12:59,279 --> 00:13:02,480 >> workforce skills like you 269 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:03,440 save that information. 270 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,000 >> It doesn't stop. It only gets worse. 271 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,360 >> Really? Yeah. 272 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,839 >> Yeah. But no, interesting. It was 273 00:13:09,839 --> 00:13:12,000 really, really fun. And um my key 274 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,079 skills, I got introduced to GIS cuz 275 00:13:14,079 --> 00:13:15,600 unlike Alana, I didn't really have a lot 276 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,440 of information in that. So, working with 277 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,600 Brad was really, really cool to get a 278 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,519 little bit of um like dip my toe in the 279 00:13:21,519 --> 00:13:23,839 water there. And then we just kind of 280 00:13:23,839 --> 00:13:25,920 improved our skills that we had like in 281 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,800 Excel and research and compiling data, 282 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,079 which I didn't really have a lot of 283 00:13:30,079 --> 00:13:31,839 experience with Excel either. So having 284 00:13:31,839 --> 00:13:34,560 that um was really really important too. 285 00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:36,240 And then my favorite project was the 286 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:37,760 outfall project cuz I felt like it 287 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,079 spanned the whole summer and then also 288 00:13:40,079 --> 00:13:42,639 kind of showed an actual uh thing that 289 00:13:42,639 --> 00:13:44,720 we could prevent like present to the 290 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,399 town that would help you know in the 291 00:13:46,399 --> 00:13:49,040 future with GIS uh researcher formatting 292 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:50,720 and survey 123 was a really big help 293 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,639 with that. And then I really really 294 00:13:52,639 --> 00:13:54,480 liked application to like Webster 295 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,440 specific um town projects like the seven 296 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,199 brewer anything like that cuz I'm from 297 00:13:59,199 --> 00:14:01,279 Webster. So seeing the inner workings of 298 00:14:01,279 --> 00:14:05,120 the town specific stuff was really interesting and really really eye 299 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:06,320 opening to me cuz I didn't really 300 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:07,600 realize any of this was happening 301 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,000 before. Um and then attending the town 302 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,120 board meetings was really really 303 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:12,560 rewarding because we got to see what we 304 00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:13,760 worked on in the office or heard about 305 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,160 in the office come to fruition or um 306 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,480 come to be presented to you guys which 307 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,680 is really really cool. Um yeah and I 308 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,440 think if there's any questions and I 309 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,440 think then I'm I'm done. Thank you guys 310 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:26,880 so much for the opportunity. Thank 311 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,880 everyone here for the opportunity for 312 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,079 this summer. It was a really really 313 00:14:30,079 --> 00:14:31,040 great experience. 314 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,000 >> Thank you. 315 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,519 >> I don't really have any questions. I 316 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:35,360 just want to thank you for all your 317 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,519 efforts and we've been um utilizing 318 00:14:39,519 --> 00:14:42,639 interns for a few years and um while you 319 00:14:42,639 --> 00:14:44,720 may benefit from it, I know the town 320 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:55,199 benefits a great deal. um like with your uh your outfalls and updating the GIS system is 321 00:14:55,199 --> 00:14:59,199 a tremendous feat. So, you should be 322 00:14:59,199 --> 00:15:02,560 very proud of what you've done. Um both 323 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,360 of you to 324 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,000 >> Hey, covered a lot of ground. 325 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,920 >> And I live right I grew up right down 326 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,199 the street from Michael Drive. 327 00:15:13,199 --> 00:15:14,480 Yeah, I know a lot of the staff is 328 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,079 already going through intern withdrawal. 329 00:15:16,079 --> 00:15:18,480 So obviously you guys made a very big 330 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:19,760 impact 331 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,839 >> on the out outfall project. What was 332 00:15:21,839 --> 00:15:23,839 your most interesting executive summary 333 00:15:23,839 --> 00:15:24,800 from that? 334 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,639 >> Uh we didn't we kind of just compiled an 335 00:15:26,639 --> 00:15:29,360 Excel spreadsheet of all. Um so we have 336 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,440 the list of the uh where they are in 337 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,279 terms in terms of the neighborhoods and 338 00:15:33,279 --> 00:15:35,440 then this basic conditions assessment of 339 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:36,720 those and we have to do those every 5 340 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,079 years. So there wasn't really like big 341 00:15:38,079 --> 00:15:40,720 executive summary or like um like 342 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,000 conclusion from that. It was just 343 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:43,519 something that we had like routinely had 344 00:15:43,519 --> 00:15:45,600 to do which was it was cool. 345 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,839 >> Did you find any issues? Were there any 346 00:15:47,839 --> 00:15:50,320 major defects or things that needed to 347 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:51,680 be addressed in 348 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:52,720 >> Yeah, it looked like one of the maps 349 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,160 there was a lot of like discrepancies 350 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:54,720 between 351 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,079 >> Yes or no before. [laughter] 352 00:15:58,079 --> 00:15:59,600 >> For the record, the answer is no. And 353 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,440 moving on, 354 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,519 >> we didn't see a lot of issues just like, 355 00:16:03,519 --> 00:16:05,120 you know, some rusting in some areas and 356 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,199 some outfalls, but nothing major that 357 00:16:07,199 --> 00:16:09,519 would have impacted the water flow of 358 00:16:09,519 --> 00:16:12,160 anything. So yeah, it was generally 359 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:12,959 pretty good. 360 00:16:12,959 --> 00:16:14,720 >> What can make this intern experience 361 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,120 better next year for future people? 362 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,440 >> That's a good question. Um I don't know. 363 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,160 I think that um from previous years 364 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:27,670 we've heard that the interns kind 365 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,839 is good, but I also really important to 366 00:16:29,839 --> 00:16:32,079 kind of get the different departments. 367 00:16:32,079 --> 00:16:33,519 So, we kind of branched out a little bit 368 00:16:33,519 --> 00:16:35,199 this year, but I also think that going 369 00:16:35,199 --> 00:16:37,120 with like, you know, code enforcement or 370 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,040 going to see uh site inspections would 371 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,279 be really really um cool and interesting 372 00:16:41,279 --> 00:16:42,959 to see. So, I don't know kind of just 373 00:16:42,959 --> 00:16:45,199 broadening the like continually 374 00:16:45,199 --> 00:16:46,959 broadening the uh scope of what the 375 00:16:46,959 --> 00:16:48,959 interns do, 376 00:16:48,959 --> 00:16:51,600 the things that they uh activities that 377 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:52,959 they perform would be really really 378 00:16:52,959 --> 00:16:54,560 interesting. So, you guys are doing a 379 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:55,120 great job. 380 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:56,880 >> Would it be interesting for your 381 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,959 internship perspective to like see other 382 00:16:58,959 --> 00:17:00,800 departments like highway or sewer or 383 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,160 police? Would that understand the scope 384 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,000 of the municipality for your engineering 385 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:06,400 work? 386 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,480 >> I think so. Yeah. I think um having 387 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,319 given the uh interns more opportunities 388 00:17:10,319 --> 00:17:12,400 there would be really really cool and um 389 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:13,760 we did kind of go to the highway 390 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,280 department and the sewer department 391 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,520 toward those and we had some like you 392 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,280 know interactions with Pat and the guys 393 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,439 over at the sewer department. So I think 394 00:17:21,439 --> 00:17:23,919 you like continually broadening that and 395 00:17:23,919 --> 00:17:25,280 getting more experience that way was 396 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,360 really really good. But other than that, 397 00:17:27,360 --> 00:17:30,240 there's really um I can't really think 398 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,240 projects and I think that's really helpful. 399 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:33,600 >> Okay. Well, if either of you think of 400 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:34,799 something, please let us know 401 00:17:34,799 --> 00:17:36,080 >> so we can always to John's point, keep 402 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,600 improving this process, keep making it 403 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:38,559 better. 404 00:17:38,559 --> 00:17:40,240 >> Definitely 405 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,320 >> because we're old now and you're young. 406 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,960 Finance could be another area of having 407 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,880 an intern where you can go through 408 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,799 because it's like the budget cycle is 409 00:17:48,799 --> 00:17:50,960 happening during the summer and that 410 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,919 would be a great opportunity to 411 00:17:53,919 --> 00:17:56,880 >> work with every department and and get 412 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,080 somebody with the 413 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,480 >> but that might be a uh an accounting 414 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,799 intern as opposed to an engineering one. 415 00:18:02,799 --> 00:18:04,240 So you're you're trying to steal you're 416 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:05,600 trying to steal work for my accounting 417 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,360 undergrads here essentially, right? 418 00:18:07,360 --> 00:18:09,760 >> Well, I think can can you do both? You 419 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:10,799 can always 420 00:18:10,799 --> 00:18:12,480 >> We might need to expand the hours per 421 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,480 week from 40 to 50 though. [laughter] 422 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,799 >> 55 60 423 00:18:18,799 --> 00:18:22,240 shaking his head. No, no, no. 424 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,080 >> Michael, thank you so much and thank you 425 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,000 for presenting tonight. That's not easy 426 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,240 to do. Um, and I'm sorry that you were 427 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,039 kind of left alone to do it, but working 428 00:18:31,039 --> 00:18:33,360 through Thank you so much for what you 429 00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:35,600 could. 430 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,760 Um, so just it's uh I'm sure it was eye 431 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,240 opening for you and I think more younger 432 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,559 folks kind of need to get a picture as 433 00:18:44,559 --> 00:18:46,799 to how a municipal government works 434 00:18:46,799 --> 00:18:48,720 because it's it's different. 435 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:49,440 >> That was great. 436 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,360 >> So who who did you report to, by the 437 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:51,840 way? 438 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,400 >> Was that who who did the interns report 439 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,919 to? Who did we report to? Report. 440 00:18:57,919 --> 00:18:59,039 >> Who was your boss? 441 00:18:59,039 --> 00:19:01,120 >> Let's see. Um, they were kind of all our 442 00:19:01,120 --> 00:19:02,640 bosses. I would say we've reported 443 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,000 mostly to uh Mark and Josh, 444 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,360 which was really great. They were really 445 00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:08,640 great mentors and they really helped 446 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,880 through uh the process a lot and um 447 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,240 really helped keep us going through the summer. So, really appreciate that 448 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:14,640 for 449 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:15,840 >> Well, that's why I asked the question 450 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,840 because I want to make sure that uh the 451 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,799 two of you are recognized for keeping 452 00:19:20,799 --> 00:19:24,720 these young interns on schedule and 453 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,240 making sure that they're doing something 454 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,080 that's going to benefit the town's host. 455 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,520 Thank you both of you. Also, 456 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,080 >> I also want to shout out Erica too and 457 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:33,760 every honestly everyone. There's a lot. 458 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,919 There's Brad, Erica, Keith, every 459 00:19:35,919 --> 00:19:38,160 everyone was so helpful. So, it wasn't 460 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:39,840 just them, but yeah, it was a pretty it 461 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,280 was a pretty big group effort. 462 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:42,080 >> Well, that's fantastic. 463 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,520 >> Good to hear. Thank you. 464 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,760 >> And good luck going back to school. 465 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:46,320 >> Thank you. 466 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:47,919 >> Yeah. 467 00:19:47,919 --> 00:19:49,200 >> Thank you. 468 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,080 >> All right. Up next, uh the reason why we 469 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,559 started early is uh we are going to be 470 00:19:54,559 --> 00:19:57,520 going over the presentation for the 471 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,760 state environmental quality review for 472 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,120 the Webster Transportation 473 00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:02,960 Infrastructure Project. And we want to 474 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,120 make sure we have enough time uh to get 475 00:20:05,120 --> 00:20:06,799 through this done thoughtfully and 476 00:20:06,799 --> 00:20:10,320 purposefully um and do it right. So we 477 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,559 have town engineer Keith Mortimer will 478 00:20:12,559 --> 00:20:16,000 be presenting and uh to answer questions 479 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,000 uh afterwards we have him we have 480 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,120 members of Kostich here and Lean Kimber 481 00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:23,919 we now Keith before you start because 482 00:20:23,919 --> 00:20:25,200 you've got a bunch to go through do you 483 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,799 want us to ask as you go or do you want 484 00:20:26,799 --> 00:20:31,760 us to wait and ask at the reference? 485 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:35,029 Um, 486 00:20:35,039 --> 00:20:38,159 I would say let's ask 487 00:20:38,159 --> 00:20:39,600 as we go. 488 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:40,000 >> Okay. 489 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,080 >> I think that's the best way to address 490 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:42,559 this. 491 00:20:42,559 --> 00:20:43,840 >> Thank you. 492 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,280 >> All right. So, uh, tonight um on our 493 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:52,480 agenda is the uh next part of the uh EAF 494 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,600 process as part of Seeker. Um, and it's 495 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,559 the the fun uh full environmental 496 00:20:58,559 --> 00:21:01,520 assessment form part two. Um, this is 497 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,440 going to be where, [clears throat] um, 498 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,919 as a lead agency, you're going to sort 499 00:21:05,919 --> 00:21:07,679 of take an inventory of all the 500 00:21:07,679 --> 00:21:09,360 potential resources that could be 501 00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:12,240 affected by the, uh, project, which is 502 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:13,600 the Webster transportation 503 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,760 infrastructure project. And then at the 504 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,760 end of this, um, the lead agency will 505 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,520 have the ability to, um, identify the 506 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,240 relevant environmental areas that may, 507 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,559 um, or may not be impacted by this 508 00:21:26,559 --> 00:21:29,120 project. and we'll walk through through 509 00:21:29,120 --> 00:21:32,559 about 20 sections here very um 510 00:21:32,559 --> 00:21:35,919 expeditiously. Um there are probably six 511 00:21:35,919 --> 00:21:37,760 um specifically that we want to focus 512 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,360 on. Uh and uh we'll get started, but 513 00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:43,600 just to kind of get your head around 514 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,039 where we're at and take an opportunity 515 00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:47,919 to present this project to both uh the 516 00:21:47,919 --> 00:21:49,840 town board again as well as the 517 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,520 community. 518 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,120 So just this is the Webster 519 00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:55,360 transportation infrastructure project. 520 00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:58,799 Um, it was a project that was born out 521 00:21:58,799 --> 00:22:01,760 of a a grant that we received of about 522 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,039 $9.3 million through Fast New York. It 523 00:22:05,039 --> 00:22:06,960 does include projects that are both in 524 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,159 the um town of Webster and the village 525 00:22:10,159 --> 00:22:13,280 as well. Um, the town components are 526 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,159 actually the Chyota Drive extension and 527 00:22:16,159 --> 00:22:19,440 the Bolter Industrial Parkway um 528 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,640 extension. There is also a multimotal 529 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,520 trail system um that will be going along 530 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,320 a portion of Phillips Road. Uh and then 531 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,159 there is some streets that are under the 532 00:22:32,159 --> 00:22:34,799 jurisdiction of Xerox which will um be 533 00:22:34,799 --> 00:22:37,760 ultimately dedicated uh to the village 534 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,960 after this uh project is completed. At 535 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,725 the very bottom of uh the slide here, we 536 00:22:43,725 --> 00:22:45,520 [clears throat] do show a very very high 537 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,240 level um project schedule. we are 538 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,760 squarely in the middle um towards the or 539 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,600 even maybe a little bit past the middle 540 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,280 of um detailed design. Um hence why 541 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,840 we're where we're at tonight with this 542 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,679 part two. Um we are intending to take 543 00:23:03,679 --> 00:23:07,919 design um near the end of this year. Uh 544 00:23:07,919 --> 00:23:11,200 we hope to start bidding this project 545 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,400 again in the last month or um month and 546 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,640 a half of the year. So somewhere around 547 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,840 December um with an ideal construction 548 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:26,310 start of um in early 2027. 549 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:32,789 Right. 550 00:23:32,799 --> 00:23:36,880 All right. So let's So in your packet um 551 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,559 earlier 552 00:23:38,559 --> 00:23:42,159 there were two pieces of information. 553 00:23:42,159 --> 00:23:44,000 One is called the full environmental 554 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,120 assessment form. See if I can make this 555 00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:47,916 a little bigger. 556 00:23:47,916 --> 00:23:52,230 [cough and clears throat] 557 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,520 And the other is actually what we call 558 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,760 um some supplemental responses to help 559 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,880 guide um why we answered the things the 560 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,840 way the way maybe we did. Again, this is 561 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,600 draft um in its nature, but it has been 562 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,840 pre-filled out based on the um both the 563 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,559 village, the town as well as our design 564 00:24:14,559 --> 00:24:17,120 team's um input and assessments. So, to 565 00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:19,919 help guide through this process, like I 566 00:24:19,919 --> 00:24:24,240 said, there are 20 categories. Um 14 of 567 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,120 these categories have um actually very 568 00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:31,600 little or no um aspect to the project 569 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:38,159 itself. and six of them may have um some component of impact that we want to 570 00:24:38,159 --> 00:24:41,840 talk to. So the first is impact to land 571 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,440 use. I think [clears throat] this is 572 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,200 somewhat um to be understood that we are 573 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,679 um extending some roadway sections. 574 00:24:49,679 --> 00:24:51,679 We're actually doing some project work 575 00:24:51,679 --> 00:24:53,120 um both in the town and the village. It 576 00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:56,400 will have some impacts. Specifically um 577 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,799 they do call out here um uh does the 578 00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:03,200 proposed action um may involve 579 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,200 construction of land where depth of 580 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,720 water table is less than 3 ft. We um 581 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,919 conducted a thorough um evaluation of 582 00:25:11,919 --> 00:25:15,279 the water table and there was only one 583 00:25:15,279 --> 00:25:18,080 um location near Salt Road where we felt 584 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:23,200 we may have it was deemed wet. Um but 585 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,240 that was at a depth of three feet. Um 586 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,000 and we do not believe that we will be 587 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,919 getting anywhere close to that 588 00:25:31,919 --> 00:25:34,080 particularly in that area of of the 589 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,760 project which is over which will be the 590 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,559 Bolter Industrial Parkway project. We 591 00:25:38,559 --> 00:25:41,120 will keep all of our work above above 592 00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:43,760 that that three-foot um or that water 593 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,159 table location. So you know there we're 594 00:25:46,159 --> 00:25:47,600 showing that we're going to have no or 595 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,799 small um impact 596 00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:52,799 The other one that kind of led us to a 597 00:25:52,799 --> 00:25:54,960 yes on this situation is the proposed 598 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,679 action which is C proposed action may 599 00:25:57,679 --> 00:25:59,279 involve the construction of land where 600 00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:02,080 bedrock is exposed or generally within 5 601 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,880 ft of the existing ground. Again from 602 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,600 our test pits in our our core our test 603 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,240 pits we did identify um a couple of 604 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,320 locations where the bedrock is somewhere 605 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,520 in the 4ft range. Um again, this is over 606 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,880 near the Bolter Industrial um parkway 607 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,000 component. Um and our design will work 608 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,400 to uh be above all of that and not 609 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,000 impact that bedrock. So again, um no or 610 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:34,320 small impact there. And then finally the the third thing that kind of maybe 611 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,159 um lent us to saying yes to this was uh 612 00:26:38,159 --> 00:26:40,480 e the proposed action may involve 613 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,559 construction that continues for more 614 00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:45,279 than one year or multiple phases. So we 615 00:26:45,279 --> 00:26:47,200 do envision that this will be a very 616 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,039 expedited project. We are hoping that um 617 00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:54,400 actually we will bid all of these 618 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,200 components of at the same time. We 619 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,360 envision that they'll overlap. We think 620 00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:01,520 we can get our best pricing that way as 621 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,600 well. So, um do we think that it could 622 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,400 extend out beyond a one-year time frame? 623 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:16,720 Absolutely. Um we do have a very um specific um agenda to get 624 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,039 Bolter extension done within the year 625 00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:23,520 that we bid the project, but everything 626 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:24,960 else should then follow shortly 627 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,400 thereafter. So, 628 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,039 >> a quick question on Bolter. 629 00:27:29,039 --> 00:27:31,840 >> What did your core samples reveal on uh 630 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,880 on Bolter Industrial Parkway? Because 631 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,279 >> I think it goes through next to the 632 00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:39,360 stadium and then extends out. 633 00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:40,720 >> Um 634 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,200 >> I'm not sure that that that that roadway 635 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,600 was when it was originally constructed 636 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,520 was constructed 637 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,320 um to New York State specifications. 638 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:50,799 Right. Right. 639 00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:54,799 >> So, I imagine if that's correct that, 640 00:27:54,799 --> 00:27:56,240 you know, you're going to have to 641 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,399 reconstruct that. And I don't know, you 642 00:27:58,399 --> 00:28:01,120 can help me out with this if that was in 643 00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:02,640 the original plan to do the 644 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,000 reconstruction. If not, have you 645 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,679 surmised what the additional cost is 646 00:28:07,679 --> 00:28:08,559 going to be for that? 647 00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:12,480 >> Yep. So, we we did um as part of this 648 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,039 project, we did take some cores on that 649 00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:17,039 road. So we do know and we know that 650 00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:21,279 it's not up to a um a standard that with 651 00:28:21,279 --> 00:28:23,279 that will 652 00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:25,679 the long run 653 00:28:25,679 --> 00:28:29,760 service the that will that will 654 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,080 it was not included in the in the grant 655 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,640 application. So it's not a cost that and 656 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,640 nor is it a design component of this 657 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,640 particular project. 658 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,399 We have um we are working with right now 659 00:28:42,399 --> 00:28:45,279 to at least 660 00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:48,399 identify a a long-term 661 00:28:48,399 --> 00:28:50,880 budgeted cost estimate. We don't have 662 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,159 that quite established yet. Um but as 663 00:28:54,159 --> 00:28:56,480 part of um when we're working out our 664 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,960 capital projects here in the town, that 665 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,799 will be something that will roll up into 666 00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:04,080 that um into that cap that planning 667 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,399 process. But I would expect that we'll 668 00:29:06,399 --> 00:29:08,799 have to address this within 669 00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:11,760 say two to three years of the opening of 670 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,279 the extension. 671 00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:15,600 >> Okay. So just so I'm understanding of 672 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,320 this. So if 673 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,120 additional costs are going to have to be 674 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,080 made to bring that up to you know New 675 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:31,200 York State DOT code or standard that the town has to bear the cost on that or 676 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,480 is it or is it 677 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,799 >> I would think that either the town or we 678 00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:36,240 will look for other funding 679 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,240 opportunities through grants. I worked 680 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,919 I've already reached out to Maria about 681 00:29:39,919 --> 00:29:41,919 this as well to start looking for other 682 00:29:41,919 --> 00:29:43,679 opportunities there. 683 00:29:43,679 --> 00:29:45,520 >> Okay. Thanks. Sorry to interrupt. 684 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:45,840 >> No. 685 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:46,960 >> Yeah. I mean, you know, John, my 686 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,320 understanding is there's some county 687 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,159 road money that could be possibly going 688 00:29:50,159 --> 00:29:52,000 after, but now that Bolta Road is not 689 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,360 going to be a county road, 690 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:53,760 >> correct? 691 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:54,880 >> So then we have to look for other 692 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,120 things. So Keith, is there a a new 693 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:57,840 expanding? 694 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,159 >> Well, I mean, is this 695 00:30:00,159 --> 00:30:01,600 >> just other other costs that are going to 696 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,440 come under the town's burden to bear? Is 697 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:04,559 this the first of 698 00:30:04,559 --> 00:30:05,760 >> will be one of many? 699 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,279 >> That's what I wanted to know. Thank you. 700 00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:08,559 One of many. Yep. I'm 701 00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:09,360 >> good answer. 702 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,559 >> Uh uh Paul has already he's on me 703 00:30:12,559 --> 00:30:14,320 already. I've already missed my homework 704 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,640 due date with getting him his capital 705 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,399 budgeting 706 00:30:18,399 --> 00:30:20,240 information. I am but we are working on 707 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,799 that. So yeah, there'll be um impact to 708 00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:26,320 geolog geological features and this is 709 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,000 um 710 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,039 we'll just read result in a modification 711 00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:34,240 or destruction or inhibit the access to 712 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,840 a unique or unusual land form or um on 713 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,480 the site. They have some examples there 714 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,799 of cliffs, dunes, minerals, fossils and 715 00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:44,880 caves. We do not have any of that here 716 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,200 on our project. 717 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,159 Um impact to surface surface water. All 718 00:30:50,159 --> 00:30:53,679 right. So, this is a fun one, right? Um, 719 00:30:53,679 --> 00:30:56,399 we are, um, 720 00:30:56,399 --> 00:30:59,919 our primary impact, if you will, is that 721 00:30:59,919 --> 00:31:02,880 we do need to put in a culvert. Um, this 722 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,880 is a culvert, um, over near Chyota and 723 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,799 Panama. Um, and it is part of the 724 00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:11,840 extension of the Pan uh, of the Chyota 725 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,559 Drive. So, it is a we do have a culver 726 00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:19,679 going in. Um and when we evaluate that 727 00:31:19,679 --> 00:31:21,279 it's 728 00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:23,679 um construction the design and its 729 00:31:23,679 --> 00:31:25,279 construction we'll we are doing 730 00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:29,120 everything um necessary toize the 731 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,279 impacts whether it's um sedimentation 732 00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:38,960 um you know flow um you know what other 733 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,360 um issues that we might encounter when 734 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,360 it comes time to to install that 735 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,120 culvert. So we recognize that we do 736 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,519 impact it naturally by putting in this 737 00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:52,640 culvert, but we also understand um what 738 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,080 we need to do to um mitigate those 739 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,320 impacts and those impacts will be you 740 00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,840 know well or that mitigation will be 741 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,000 well stipulated to whatever contractor 742 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,799 that that gets this project as well. So 743 00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:06,320 when we go down through all of these 744 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,039 items here, we then start showing up as 745 00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:11,440 them being either um minimal or no 746 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,919 impact to the uh the impact to the 747 00:32:13,919 --> 00:32:16,240 surface water. Interesting enough, the 748 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,000 stream that we are going to be um having 749 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,120 to uh it actually will get rediverted 750 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,279 slightly and then pl brought back into 751 00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:29,919 its new alignment. Um it is a type 752 00:32:29,919 --> 00:32:33,279 C stream. Um, and it is not a stream 753 00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:36,159 that is regulated by the DEEC. So, we 754 00:32:36,159 --> 00:32:38,880 we're we're clear of that. The culvert 755 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,000 itself and the work associated with it 756 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,559 is um something that the Army Corps of 757 00:32:44,559 --> 00:32:47,120 Engineers has purview over. We have our 758 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,519 permit and design materials into them 759 00:32:49,519 --> 00:32:50,960 right now and we're just waiting for 760 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,360 their feedback on that permit and we'll 761 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,320 take that into account um as part of our 762 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:01,990 uh follow-up design work. 763 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,519 Okay. Impact to groundwater. Um we don't 764 00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:07,760 envision getting into any groundwater 765 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,880 issues out there. Uh we won't and this 766 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,600 would be any supply wells. Uh anything 767 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,679 like that. We don't have any um 768 00:33:15,679 --> 00:33:18,559 potential for that on this project. 769 00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:20,640 Impact of flooding. We're not in a flood 770 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,240 plane. We don't envision um impacting 771 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,039 any kinds of of or or exacerbating any 772 00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:30,080 kind of flooding issues. Um I will 773 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,399 indicate that we are this culvert in 774 00:33:32,399 --> 00:33:35,039 particular that's kind of drives a lot 775 00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:38,799 of this is um being designed 776 00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:41,679 um over capacity slightly so that we are 777 00:33:41,679 --> 00:33:43,760 taking into so we are taking into 778 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,440 account sort of a more worst case 779 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,909 scenario. 780 00:33:49,919 --> 00:33:52,480 All right impact to air and climate. 781 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,679 Again this is a no. Um there's nothing 782 00:33:55,679 --> 00:33:57,120 about this project that should 783 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,640 substantially increase um air pollution 784 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,320 um as part of of of the general use of 785 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:10,389 what we're doing out there. 786 00:34:10,399 --> 00:34:13,760 Impacts to plants and animals. Okay. So 787 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,159 this is a 788 00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:18,159 this is also kind of what we call in 789 00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:20,000 your supplemental material on pages 790 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,679 three or four at the bottom a proposed 791 00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:24,720 action as a results of loss of flora or 792 00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:28,079 fauna. We did say yes because just in 793 00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:31,200 natural we are extending two roadway 794 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,679 systems through what is now um um vacant 795 00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:42,240 land if you will. But as part of that um 796 00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:45,839 we indicated under part one um is that 797 00:34:45,839 --> 00:34:47,919 there is no identified there are no 798 00:34:47,919 --> 00:34:50,480 species of rare or threatened or 799 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,839 endangered of any type in this area 800 00:34:53,839 --> 00:34:56,879 um and there was no special concern or 801 00:34:56,879 --> 00:34:58,640 conservation need within the project 802 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,240 limits. So in that we recognize that we 803 00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:07,040 are you know we are going through some vacant land but we have not there 804 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,280 are no identified endangered species or 805 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,680 anything that we would be impacting or 806 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,440 impacting their habitat. 807 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:14,320 >> Quick question. 808 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,829 >> Yep. 809 00:35:17,839 --> 00:35:20,079 » How do you make that determination? 810 00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:23,040 Someone do site visits um gathering 811 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:23,839 information 812 00:35:23,839 --> 00:35:25,440 >> that is yeah it's established 813 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,920 information through the DEEC and we do 814 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,920 that. We go through essentially that's 815 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,160 the that's your first step is to walk 816 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,160 through go to the DC and and look for 817 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,000 those habit they have that all 818 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,680 categorized and listed out for us. 819 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:38,960 >> Okay. I was just curious. 820 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:43,520 >> Yeah. Yep. Yep. Um I do stipulate though 821 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,599 we are as part of the Chyota Drive 822 00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:47,119 project. 823 00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:51,440 Um there is going to be um a relocation 824 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,119 of the trail that leads from roughly the 825 00:35:55,119 --> 00:35:58,160 rec center to 250 which then turns into 826 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,280 the bird song trail. We have also been 827 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,920 working with the friends of Webster 828 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,119 Trail on that realignment um and been 829 00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:11,440 taking in their input and feedback and I think we're in a good spot. They've 830 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,280 we've met a couple of time with them, 831 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,200 couple times with them, showed them a 832 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,480 couple different alignments. We've got 833 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,040 some agreement to that. So, um and and 834 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,160 as part of our project, we've we've 835 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,720 indicated that, you know, they have a 836 00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:26,720 character that they'd like to maintain 837 00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:29,760 along that trail system. So, we're going 838 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,520 to work with them as well as probably um 839 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,640 add some dollars into our an allowance 840 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,560 into our our construction costs to 841 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,640 um identify 842 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,280 reveation where necessary to help that 843 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,760 trail make that new trail system reflect 844 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,440 the current character of the existing 845 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:50,320 trail system. 846 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,839 >> Thank you. That's important. 847 00:36:51,839 --> 00:36:54,000 >> And and with that, are are the friends 848 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,760 doing the new trail or is the 849 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,520 construction project creating that 850 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,839 trail? That's part of our project. So, 851 00:36:59,839 --> 00:37:02,960 the construction project will um the 852 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,240 this project will be responsible for the 853 00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:08,880 relocation of that trail system. 854 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:09,920 >> Perfect. Thank you. 855 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,950 >> Yep. 856 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,400 All right. Moving on here. 857 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,200 Uh impacts to aggro uh agricultural 858 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,000 resources. Um we've got none of that 859 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:26,470 here in the area of this project. 860 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,599 um in impact to aesthetic resources. So 861 00:37:29,599 --> 00:37:32,400 again, land use for the proposed action 862 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,320 obviously different from or what is in 863 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,400 the shape or contrast to the current 864 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,280 land use patterns between the proposed 865 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,599 project and the scenic or aesthetic 866 00:37:41,599 --> 00:37:45,119 resource. Again, we felt this is a we're 867 00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:47,200 not having an impact on this. It's we 868 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,520 are working within an urban environment. 869 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,359 Um what we're doing is not out of 870 00:37:51,359 --> 00:37:53,040 characteristic for what you would expect 871 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,960 to see in this environment. And as I 872 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,359 mentioned in particular, the the trail 873 00:37:57,359 --> 00:37:58,880 system is is probably one of the key 874 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,240 components that we want to make sure 875 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:03,119 we're uh maintaining character and form 876 00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:09,589 and and function for 877 00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:11,440 uh impact on historical and 878 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,599 archeological resources. Again, this is 879 00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:15,920 a no. Um and this is this comes straight 880 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,000 out of um the New York State uh the 881 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,800 Shipo if I knew what ship there it is. 882 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,040 the state historic preservation office. 883 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,440 They sent us a letter uh confirming that 884 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,000 we are not um impacting any historical 885 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,550 or archeological resources. 886 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,520 Um impact on open space and recreation. 887 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:42,079 Again, no. Um all of this is uh 888 00:38:42,079 --> 00:38:44,160 occurring within an urban environment. 889 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,440 Um, again, probably the only the only 890 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,359 big impact to this was going to be the 891 00:38:49,359 --> 00:38:51,119 trail. And again, we are that trail 892 00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:54,800 system is part of our our project. 893 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,040 >> And and Keith, with that for the Bolter 894 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,079 Road extension, how much forest and 895 00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:02,720 green space is really being 896 00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:05,119 removed as part of this? 897 00:39:05,119 --> 00:39:10,079 >> So, total between Chyota and Bolter, 898 00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:12,800 it's a little over four acres in total. 899 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:17,760 >> Okay. Um the split between that 900 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,680 probably 901 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,760 three to one. Three being the uh bolter 902 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,400 would you say? I'm getting a resounding 903 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,720 yes back from the back of the room. So 904 00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:30,480 yeah, it's about a one to three. So 905 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,040 Chyota is going to um impact about an 906 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,720 acre of of land and the bolter extension 907 00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:38,960 is about three acres. Okay. 908 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,480 >> Plus or minus. 909 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,320 >> Yeah. And you know over then the Bolton 910 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:43,920 extension you know as much as we want to 911 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,119 preserve what we can it's not 912 00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:47,520 necessarily critical 913 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,680 >> old growth vegetation. 914 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:56,480 >> Yeah that's open yeah open land it's yeah previous Xerox 915 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,119 >> property um 916 00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:01,760 >> yeah I I don't think we're 917 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,760 >> um you know yeah I understand the 918 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,359 preservation of open space and green 919 00:40:05,359 --> 00:40:07,119 space. I don't know that that's a 920 00:40:07,119 --> 00:40:10,480 >> that's right I agree with you like it's not a 921 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,079 This project is very beneficial to 922 00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:13,680 Webster for its long-term economic 923 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:14,720 growth 924 00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:18,400 >> at the tradeoff of not pristine or huge 925 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,320 some huge ecological resource over 926 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:20,640 there, 927 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:20,960 >> right? 928 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:21,920 >> That makes it 929 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:22,320 >> Yep. 930 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,680 >> We're always going to face this. 931 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,280 >> Yep. Yep. That Yeah. And that's the 932 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,760 balancing act. 933 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,040 >> Um impacts to critical environmental 934 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,880 areas. So, we've uh said no to this. Um, 935 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,800 we don't see any of those based on the 936 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,640 definitions of of what's being 937 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,560 considered a critical environmental area 938 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,520 as as being impacted. 939 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,359 Um, impact on transportation 940 00:40:47,359 --> 00:40:50,400 just by the nature of this project. Yes. 941 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,200 Um, but of course what we're planning to 942 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,920 do is all to the benefit of the network 943 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,359 and the transportation the 944 00:40:57,359 --> 00:41:00,079 transportation network. Um there are 945 00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:03,839 questions here that discuss um you know 946 00:41:03,839 --> 00:41:06,160 we aren't we don't this project starting 947 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,680 with a isn't 948 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,240 generating new traffic. It's only 949 00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:14,560 redistributing and providing other means 950 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,359 of access to the area. 951 00:41:17,359 --> 00:41:18,880 Um 952 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,560 the 953 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,839 there a degradation in existing transit 954 00:41:23,839 --> 00:41:26,240 access at this point. you know, none of 955 00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:29,119 this network seems to have any transit 956 00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:30,960 um access at the time. So, that's 957 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,440 certainly a a null. 958 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,200 Uh proposed action will degrade the 959 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,560 existing pedestrian bicycle 960 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,960 accommodations. Actually, this project 961 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,240 will improve those accommodations. Um 962 00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:46,720 this um project has a lot of multimodal 963 00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:50,560 um pathways um along much of of the the 964 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,200 new infrastructure. So we feel that 965 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,119 we're actually you know if this could be 966 00:41:55,119 --> 00:41:57,520 if that could have said I mean maybe we 967 00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,599 could have said yes to that actually 968 00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:02,560 because we are improving the uh the 969 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,400 accommodations quite significantly as 970 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,319 part of this project which was also a 971 00:42:06,319 --> 00:42:09,760 driver of the grant. Um proposed action 972 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,560 alter the present pattern of movement of 973 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,040 people or goods. Well naturally we would 974 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,200 expect people to utilize the 975 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,560 infrastructure that we put forward. Um 976 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,599 certainly for the Bolter uh extension, 977 00:42:23,599 --> 00:42:26,560 we absolutely want to encourage that so 978 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,720 that we are getting the larger vehicles 979 00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:31,680 that are now going to Basket Road um 980 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,400 over to the Salt Road and get to the 981 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,880 Salt Road interchange with 104, which is 982 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,400 a much safer interchange for those 983 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,630 larger vehicles to be using. 984 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,400 Um impact on energy. We saw no sun 985 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,000 nothing coming of this project that 986 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,040 would uh change up the energy use in the 987 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,640 area. 988 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,000 Impact to noise, odor and light. This is 989 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,319 the project itself once it's in 990 00:42:58,319 --> 00:43:01,599 functioning order won't have an impact 991 00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:03,440 but certainly during construction we can 992 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,640 expect that there will be um noise, odor 993 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,599 and light. Um certainly we will work 994 00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:11,200 with the contractor when we get into 995 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,280 construction about how we mitigate those 996 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,760 things. Um and a lot of that will just 997 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,079 will occur from the from the sheer fact 998 00:43:18,079 --> 00:43:20,160 that they can only be doing work during 999 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,319 certain times of the day and certain 1000 00:43:22,319 --> 00:43:23,359 days of the week. 1001 00:43:23,359 --> 00:43:25,040 >> And Keith of that I'd imagine in terms 1002 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,119 of noise it it's kind of relevant 1003 00:43:27,119 --> 00:43:28,720 because the noise when Xerox was 1004 00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:30,400 operating at full capacity is probably 1005 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,800 way noisier than it will be. 1006 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,160 >> Busier. Yeah. 1007 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,480 And noisier too than how many thousands 1008 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:37,599 of people 1009 00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:38,400 >> you probably remember. 1010 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,319 >> And and the nice thing about this is the 1011 00:43:40,319 --> 00:43:40,720 area 1012 00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:43,119 >> busy. Not noisy though. Xerox wasn't 1013 00:43:43,119 --> 00:43:44,160 noisy. 1014 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,680 >> Busy. Not noisy. 1015 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:46,960 >> Okay. 1016 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,359 >> The I I will say and the area the 1017 00:43:49,359 --> 00:43:51,520 general area around here is not 1018 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,200 substantially residential where we're 1019 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,599 working where our work is occurring 1020 00:43:55,599 --> 00:43:58,720 properly, you know. So I we we're well 1021 00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:00,000 away from those kinds of 1022 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,480 >> and there's there's no right there's no 1023 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,920 plans to make those areas residential 1024 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,839 either there would be a problem would 1025 00:44:07,839 --> 00:44:08,400 there be 1026 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,240 >> I mean I'm not aware of any specific 1027 00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:12,319 plans within the immediate future you 1028 00:44:12,319 --> 00:44:14,560 know not not within the the the timeline 1029 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:15,839 that this project will be under 1030 00:44:15,839 --> 00:44:16,240 construction 1031 00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:17,760 >> in the immediate vicinity. Yeah. Okay. 1032 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,079 >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're we're 1033 00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:21,520 planning on getting in and out of here 1034 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,359 in less than two years. So 1035 00:44:23,359 --> 00:44:26,720 >> nice. Good. That's our 1036 00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:28,560 um 1037 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,440 impact on human health. So we checked 1038 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:41,680 yes [clears throat] to this um but to to make it clear that this project 1039 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,240 is well aware of the environmental 1040 00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:46,800 concerns and issues that surround and we 1041 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,880 know that we're working in areas where 1042 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:53,680 you know certainly Xerox has various 1043 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,560 have a lot of um management plans and 1044 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,400 we've been working with Xerox very 1045 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,480 closely about what those are, how we um 1046 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,640 work through those, work around those. I 1047 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:09,359 mean, it is it was as minute as where we 1048 00:45:09,359 --> 00:45:12,640 could take cing and if we came across 1049 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,160 certain types of soils or things that 1050 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,040 looked a certain way, you know, how that 1051 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,680 stopped and how we had to address those 1052 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,839 situations. So the good thing 1053 00:45:25,839 --> 00:45:28,079 to acknowledge we're working in a in an 1054 00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:30,880 area where there is you know um some 1055 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,359 environmental concerns from the Xerox 1056 00:45:33,359 --> 00:45:37,599 perspective from all of our work. Our 1057 00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:41,119 work isn't in any of those zones that 1058 00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:43,680 they've identified as being truly 1059 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,160 contaminated as I guess how I'll put it. 1060 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:50,960 Um they are there on their campus right 1061 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,000 yellows and reds and things like that. 1062 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,720 Um also our cores um that the cing that 1063 00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:01,920 we did none of themated 1064 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,680 in any areas that we're going to have 1065 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,480 we're in a in a contaminated zone. So we 1066 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,440 know very and we know very well um you 1067 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:13,040 know when it comes doing deep 1068 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,640 >> and so Keith that it was you know it was 1069 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:15,839 my understanding it was explained to me 1070 00:46:15,839 --> 00:46:18,480 that with that this project is this form 1071 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,079 is tailored to just we're doing the 1072 00:46:20,079 --> 00:46:20,640 roads. 1073 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:20,960 >> Yeah. 1074 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,720 >> So all that stuff even though if it may 1075 00:46:22,720 --> 00:46:25,599 be true overall that's not we're doing 1076 00:46:25,599 --> 00:46:27,839 here. This is very focused to just these 1077 00:46:27,839 --> 00:46:29,440 redoing these roads or putting some new 1078 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,040 roads in. 1079 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,160 >> Full stop. 1080 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:32,640 >> Right. 1081 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,880 >> Other stuff valid but not impacted here. 1082 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,760 >> Right. Right. Yep. Yep. Right. Exactly. 1083 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,510 >> Perfect. Thank you. 1084 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,839 » All right. Then I think we get into some 1085 00:46:43,839 --> 00:46:47,040 no here. So consistency consistency with 1086 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,680 community plans. 1087 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,000 This is kind of a double no situation. 1088 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,040 So we are um so the proposed action is 1089 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,160 not consistent with adopted land use 1090 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,200 plans. So we're saying no to this. We 1091 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,760 are consistent. It took about 1092 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,920 two planners, four engineers to figure 1093 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,632 out how to answer this question. 1094 00:47:09,632 --> 00:47:12,069 [laughter] 1095 00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:16,960 We It was a Yeah. Uh consistency with 1096 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,800 community character. The proposed 1097 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,560 project is consistent with the existing 1098 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,040 community character. 1099 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:23,520 >> Inconsistent. 1100 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:24,319 >> It is, 1101 00:47:24,319 --> 00:47:25,200 >> but it's a no. 1102 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,319 >> And you can see like once again, they 1103 00:47:26,319 --> 00:47:27,680 went from like the double negative to 1104 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,440 inconsistent. Yeah. They could have been 1105 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:30,880 like, now that you figured out the prior 1106 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,400 17, they could have let you be like, all 1107 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,000 right, I know the answer. 1108 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,200 >> Yeah. Could I move on? 1109 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,240 >> Yeah. Now they're like, let's let's 1110 00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:38,319 change the words here to make this now, 1111 00:47:38,319 --> 00:47:38,960 >> right? 1112 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,079 >> Equally confusing, 1113 00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:42,880 >> right? Again, four engineers, two 1114 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,960 planners, 1115 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,240 couple other people, and we had to 1116 00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:47,359 figure out how to answer these 1117 00:47:47,359 --> 00:47:48,560 questions. 1118 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,240 >> Um impact on disadvantaged communities. 1119 00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:54,800 No. Um this was pretty straightforward 1120 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,800 response. 1121 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,800 And then finally, future physical 1122 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,760 climate risks. Um, the proposed project 1123 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,599 may be vulnerable to future physical 1124 00:48:03,599 --> 00:48:05,599 climate risks or increase the 1125 00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:07,839 vulnerability of human or ecological 1126 00:48:07,839 --> 00:48:10,560 communities to the future of physical 1127 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,280 climate risks. And we said no, that this 1128 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,800 is a strictly a road project and we are 1129 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:22,079 not doing anything uh above and beyond that that would send us into a 1130 00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:25,750 risky situation. 1131 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,200 All right. 1132 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,599 >> So, you guys have just gone through 1133 00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:30,000 parts. 1134 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,440 >> So exciting. Thank you, Keith. 1135 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:32,319 >> I know. 1136 00:48:32,319 --> 00:48:33,119 >> Nice. 1137 00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:34,160 >> How many? Very thorough. 1138 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,680 >> How many more do we have left? 1139 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,880 >> You have just this one. This is all This 1140 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,280 is what I needed to present with you 1141 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,640 tonight. Um I believe our next steps 1142 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,920 will be um this helps you assess and 1143 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,240 understand the impacts of the project. 1144 00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:54,640 Um on the 3 there will be a resolution 1145 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,480 um for the board to make aation 1146 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,559 um on this project as the lead agency. 1147 00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:04,559 >> So when you envision the RFP being sent 1148 00:49:04,559 --> 00:49:07,119 out 1149 00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:09,520 >> the project 1150 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:10,800 well I don't know if we've gotten that 1151 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,960 far yet with completely understanding 1152 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,880 how we if we would break up the project 1153 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,319 or not. Um, 1154 00:49:18,319 --> 00:49:22,559 but RFPs will go out, I'm going to say 1155 00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:24,400 December, 1156 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,720 beginning in the beginning part. 1157 00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:29,440 >> Okay. I appreciate you bringing up the 1158 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,000 potentially breaking up the project 1159 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,319 because it's my understanding that if 1160 00:49:34,319 --> 00:49:36,000 you break it up or it's already been 1161 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,680 broken up that the money's allocated to 1162 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,000 that aspect of the project. If you don't 1163 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,000 do it, you can't shift that money to 1164 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,920 another aspect. You are correct. 1165 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,760 >> Another area of the of the project. 1166 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,559 >> Yes, you are correct. Yeah, we are we 1167 00:49:50,559 --> 00:49:54,000 are beholden to sort of the the groups I 1168 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,000 call them of monies as they're you know 1169 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,760 are categorized within the within the uh 1170 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,280 um within the grant. So I I mean I I 1171 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:10,640 think it would be the my personal bector 1172 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,440 that was doing all of it. Um only 1173 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,240 because it would give us a consistency 1174 00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:20,400 across people dealing 1175 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:21,920 with. 1176 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,599 We'll have to kind we're gonna have to 1177 00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:26,880 have discussion that about if this break 1178 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:32,400 it up and do the you know does the the village road 1179 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,800 similar component um and how that works 1180 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,720 and the 1181 00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:40,400 component 1182 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,440 nature in construction 1183 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,640 uh scope so but we have to yeah more to 1184 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,000 >> I I I agree 100% with you 1185 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:54,720 from the aspect of having one contractor 1186 00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:57,200 because then you do have consistency 1187 00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,760 which and cons 1188 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:00,720 very important. 1189 00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:01,200 >> Yep. 1190 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,880 >> So certain aspects of the project don't 1191 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,319 get siloed and you're doing you have the 1192 00:51:08,319 --> 00:51:10,559 same general contractors overseeing the 1193 00:51:10,559 --> 00:51:13,680 subcontractors. I think that's very very 1194 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:14,319 important. 1195 00:51:14,319 --> 00:51:16,160 >> Yeah. Well, if I understand what I'm 1196 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:17,359 hearing, 1197 00:51:17,359 --> 00:51:19,359 >> it's also very important for the funding 1198 00:51:19,359 --> 00:51:21,599 because losing any part of the grant 1199 00:51:21,599 --> 00:51:24,160 funding because something changed along 1200 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,559 the way is quite risky. 1201 00:51:26,559 --> 00:51:29,520 >> No, I you're 100% right and which is why 1202 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,720 I'm very concerned 1203 00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:34,559 and 1204 00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:37,040 that show it's not to the standard it 1205 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,079 needs to be and if you have to dig that 1206 00:51:40,079 --> 00:51:46,230 up and put new base stone and that you 1207 00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:48,480 And I don't even know if curbing is 1208 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,480 required for that roadway because I 1209 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,119 don't believe there currently is any 1210 00:51:53,119 --> 00:51:54,480 curbing. 1211 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,680 >> So it it could be very very expensive. 1212 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,359 >> Well, so uh just to be Yeah, just I 1213 00:52:01,359 --> 00:52:06,319 guess just to clarify. So the B 1214 00:52:06,319 --> 00:52:10,079 only up to the point where that roadway 1215 00:52:10,079 --> 00:52:11,839 starts, right? Y 1216 00:52:11,839 --> 00:52:15,200 >> so a future project in the near future 1217 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,720 I' needs to be developed or or needs to 1218 00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:21,599 be thought about um for the rest of that 1219 00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:24,000 and again that's the planning that needs 1220 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:24,960 to be 1221 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,040 >> started 1222 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,800 now what those costs are um and again 1223 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,280 we've got a we've got a design team with 1224 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,599 us that's you know able to help us start 1225 00:52:35,599 --> 00:52:39,760 that planning process and give costs 1226 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,839 what we're in for and what we need to 1227 00:52:41,839 --> 00:52:43,359 deal with here in the next two or three 1228 00:52:43,359 --> 00:52:43,839 years. 1229 00:52:43,839 --> 00:52:45,280 >> Well, it's good to you're ahead of it 1230 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:46,000 though. That's 1231 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:46,640 >> Yeah, 1232 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,839 >> today I am. [laughter] 1233 00:52:49,839 --> 00:52:52,160 >> And you had mentioned the uh Army Corps 1234 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:53,440 of Engineers. We're still waiting on 1235 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,880 them for the Culveride that do we have 1236 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,599 to delay? I would say that what we're 1237 00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:03,520 waiting for them to come back with is a 1238 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,800 um concurrence 1239 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,319 um andor feedback with concurrence on 1240 00:53:10,319 --> 00:53:14,000 how we're proceeding with crossing this 1241 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,599 stream. 1242 00:53:15,599 --> 00:53:17,520 But the fact that we're going to move 1243 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,880 forward with a project that ultimately 1244 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,520 has to cross the stream to make it work, 1245 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,680 you know, 1246 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,119 understanding that we're we're doing 1247 00:53:27,119 --> 00:53:29,839 everything we can to impact that stream 1248 00:53:29,839 --> 00:53:34,480 and do processes and that will will will 1249 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,160 minimize 1250 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:40,079 eliminate any of say no. I would say 1251 00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:42,160 we're safe to go forward with a with a 1252 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,160 declaration at that point. 1253 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,760 >> Okay. Thank you. 1254 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,440 >> The traffic study in there and a lot of 1255 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:53,829 this is fair life traffic. 1256 00:53:53,839 --> 00:53:56,160 I would say. 1257 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,040 >> Okay. 1258 00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:01,040 >> No. Um, so we did the trip generation. 1259 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:06,160 Um the what we we we took the BOA that's 1260 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,839 been approved this area 1261 00:54:09,839 --> 00:54:12,000 made some some high level assumptions 1262 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:20,630 with our traffic team our traffic analys 1263 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,599 um based on what was identified for that 1264 00:54:23,599 --> 00:54:26,880 BOA. So it includes some mixed use, it 1265 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:31,119 includes, it includes some housing, it 1266 00:54:31,119 --> 00:54:34,559 includes some I think some recreational 1267 00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:36,480 things. Anything that was in that BOA, 1268 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,880 we tried to take into account in a on a 1269 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,599 high level develop 1270 00:54:41,599 --> 00:54:45,440 trip generation or traffic for 1271 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:51,430 that to um assessment. 1272 00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:55,440 So certainly and fair life is the most 1273 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,119 specific that we know. Right. 1274 00:54:57,119 --> 00:54:58,559 >> And that's clear that's clear into like 1275 00:54:58,559 --> 00:55:00,240 we know that that's not a like 1276 00:55:00,240 --> 00:55:02,480 hypothetical like 1100 apartments might 1277 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,160 go in there theoretically. 1278 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,720 >> Right. Right. And we reconfirm with 1279 00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:09,200 Fairlife. So a traffic study was done as 1280 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,720 part of their environmental um impact 1281 00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:15,599 statement going through this this same 1282 00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:17,040 process that we're going through here 1283 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,040 tonight. 1284 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,319 We took their information that they used 1285 00:55:22,319 --> 00:55:26,160 um and reverified with them to make sure 1286 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,040 that there wasn't anything like oh you 1287 00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,160 saw an 1288 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,160 uptick in 1289 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:35,920 one type of traffic or another type of 1290 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,480 traffic or something's changed that you 1291 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,880 know may have you know may have evolved 1292 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,960 as part of their project and uh they 1293 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,240 came back and um 1294 00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:49,200 actually they came right in and said it 1295 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,000 was either what we had was was um right 1296 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,880 on target. 1297 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,040 >> So that with that the bolt for the 1298 00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:58,000 current planning, right? 1299 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,559 >> Yeah. For well and we also we know too 1300 00:56:00,559 --> 00:56:02,319 that like we think the bolter extension 1301 00:56:02,319 --> 00:56:05,359 will be very popular for when the ball 1302 00:56:05,359 --> 00:56:08,799 fields are in um use, you know, we 1303 00:56:08,799 --> 00:56:12,000 understand that that uh you know that 1304 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,680 those get quite heavily very popular. 1305 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,870 Um, 1306 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,119 you know, we've we've taken we've gone 1307 00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:24,720 as far with our our um with our design, 1308 00:56:24,720 --> 00:56:27,440 I can tell you on the Bolter extension 1309 00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,280 that we could either discourage people 1310 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,079 from parking along the edge of that road 1311 00:56:34,079 --> 00:56:36,400 because been a 1312 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,799 herb 1313 00:56:38,799 --> 00:56:43,280 could have made it a a um a uh a 1314 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,960 shoulder that could withstand having 1315 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,799 vehicles parking along it and parallel 1316 00:56:48,799 --> 00:56:52,720 parking. So, um just knowing parking in 1317 00:56:52,720 --> 00:56:54,559 is a premium and the popularity of those 1318 00:56:54,559 --> 00:56:56,559 ball fields and stuff, we chose to go 1319 00:56:56,559 --> 00:56:59,119 with the route of we'll work with we'll 1320 00:56:59,119 --> 00:57:03,760 work with the devil we know and we'll make it accommodatable for for 1321 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,920 vehicles to park along the edges of 1322 00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,280 Bolter. 1323 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:08,640 >> Okay. Because we're thinking there won't 1324 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,480 be much truck traffic during ball game 1325 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:11,599 time then. 1326 00:57:11,599 --> 00:57:14,160 >> I mean I there 1327 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,319 would be there's trucks going in and out 1328 00:57:16,319 --> 00:57:17,280 of there. 1329 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,119 >> Yeah, I I'd have to look back at what 1330 00:57:19,119 --> 00:57:21,760 their you know I think their peak 1331 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,160 periods are and actually I think their 1332 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,480 periods of of tractor trailer traffic 1333 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,440 are slightly off from commuter pe 1334 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,680 periods and stuff as well. But I it's 1335 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,359 pretty consistent 1336 00:57:33,359 --> 00:57:34,720 >> traffic is there while they're trying to 1337 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,640 use those fields as a 1338 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,480 >> Yeah. Well, and and here's the other 1339 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,240 thing is the the school district which 1340 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,720 we are working with as part of all this. 1341 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:47,200 They also have intentions of building um 1342 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,079 relocating some of their 1343 00:57:50,079 --> 00:57:51,839 well off road as well. 1344 00:57:51,839 --> 00:57:52,559 >> Okay, good. 1345 00:57:52,559 --> 00:57:56,880 >> So they have their own M plan will 1346 00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,119 working with and so we're just trying to 1347 00:57:59,119 --> 00:58:01,359 make sure that we are also in 1348 00:58:01,359 --> 00:58:04,319 conjunction with them in accom 1349 00:58:04,319 --> 00:58:06,799 >> projected traffic flow and pattern and 1350 00:58:06,799 --> 00:58:09,920 use for the Chyota drive extension, 1351 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,400 >> you know. 1352 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,000 I don't have the traffic study in front 1353 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,160 of me here, right? [laughter] 1354 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,480 Is it in our stuff? Is it in our stuff? 1355 00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,000 >> It may have been in our stuff. Yeah. 1356 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,680 I think it is. I But I um 1357 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:24,160 >> it's not 1358 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:25,119 >> And you can get back You can get back to 1359 00:58:25,119 --> 00:58:25,599 me if you want. 1360 00:58:25,599 --> 00:58:27,520 >> Yeah, I Yeah, I could I Well, I could 1361 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:28,559 tell you this. 1362 00:58:28,559 --> 00:58:31,599 >> The envision for that is very is local, 1363 00:58:31,599 --> 00:58:34,319 right? A lot of local traffic. I don't 1364 00:58:34,319 --> 00:58:36,319 It's not envisioned to be thousands of 1365 00:58:36,319 --> 00:58:38,640 vehicles a day kind of a thing. and the 1366 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,319 way and the character of that roadway 1367 00:58:40,319 --> 00:58:43,839 and the way we're designing that we it's 1368 00:58:43,839 --> 00:58:46,960 to be a village feel, right? It's not to 1369 00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,440 have a it's not to be felt like it 1370 00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,240 should be used as a a collector or or 1371 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,960 something like really just to support 1372 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,880 the local transportation network. It's 1373 00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,960 not a and it's to have more of a village 1374 00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,680 feel from the village into 1375 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:07,510 and vice versa. 1376 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,200 Any other thoughts? Just curious. Yeah. 1377 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:09,920 Thank you. 1378 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,680 >> So, this question is is me getting down 1379 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,000 in the weeds, and I apologize for it. If 1380 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,520 you can't answer, I completely 1381 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:16,160 understand. 1382 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:17,599 >> I got people here in the room that might 1383 00:59:17,599 --> 00:59:18,319 help me. 1384 00:59:18,319 --> 00:59:19,440 >> There we go. Call them up. 1385 00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:19,839 >> Yeah. Yeah. 1386 00:59:19,839 --> 00:59:22,880 >> But given the magnitude and the weight 1387 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,839 of the trucks from Fairlife that are 1388 00:59:25,839 --> 00:59:28,240 going to be servicing that road. I guess 1389 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,119 my question is, are we designing that 1390 00:59:31,119 --> 00:59:34,640 road to hold the capacity? 1391 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,440 >> Yes. long term given the weight of these 1392 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:43,910 trucks and the volume of these going 1393 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,559 » since that's the main driver for doing 1394 00:59:46,559 --> 00:59:47,359 this. 1395 00:59:47,359 --> 00:59:49,839 >> So we you know Yes. And and we are 1396 00:59:49,839 --> 00:59:51,359 designing 1397 00:59:51,359 --> 00:59:56,240 >> um Yes. not not only the the actual 1398 00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,760 structural uh capacity of the road but 1399 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:04,079 also the um curb radiuses say to 1400 01:00:04,079 --> 01:00:06,400 accommodate you know those vehicles. So 1401 01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,640 uh a northbound 1402 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,119 >> truck on Salt Road making that right 1403 01:00:11,119 --> 01:00:14,000 turn um you know that curb rate if you 1404 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:15,200 look at the plans and you're like wow 1405 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:16,640 that's kind of funky the way that curb 1406 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,480 is there. Well, it's there purposely 1407 01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:19,520 because 1408 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,520 >> that tractor trailer has a certain 1409 01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:22,880 turning radius that needs to be 1410 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,240 accommodated. 1411 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,480 >> And the lucky and we're and a lot of 1412 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,559 that is 1413 01:00:28,559 --> 01:00:32,319 >> um we've mimicked exactly what was done 1414 01:00:32,319 --> 01:00:34,480 as part of the ta uh table road 1415 01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,880 reconstruction project. So we have a lot 1416 01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,599 of good experience that that geometry 1417 01:00:39,599 --> 01:00:41,839 that's being accommodated for table road 1418 01:00:41,839 --> 01:00:44,319 from basket we now are just translating 1419 01:00:44,319 --> 01:00:45,680 that down to salt. 1420 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:46,960 >> Okay. 1421 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:48,720 I I just asked that question because I 1422 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,799 know there's there's a there's a village 1423 01:00:50,799 --> 01:00:54,319 um about an hour from here where they 1424 01:00:54,319 --> 01:00:56,880 redirected 18-wheeler trucks from going 1425 01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,400 down a certain street for decades and 1426 01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,799 then for some reason 1427 01:01:02,799 --> 01:01:05,520 they took a sign down and trucks have 1428 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:07,520 just torn up that street and it's one of 1429 01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,280 the main arteries in that village. 1430 01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:09,760 >> Yeah. 1431 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:11,839 >> So I that's what kind of prompted that 1432 01:01:11,839 --> 01:01:13,359 question but it's a great answer. I'm 1433 01:01:13,359 --> 01:01:14,640 glad that they're going down that route 1434 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,559 to uh design 1435 01:01:16,559 --> 01:01:18,400 taking into consideration. 1436 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:19,440 >> Oh, yeah. Well, yeah. 1437 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,680 >> The number and weight of the vehicles. 1438 01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,520 >> Yep. As Councilwoman Wright said, that's 1439 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,200 kind of our purpose here for a lot of 1440 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:26,640 this. So, 1441 01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:27,599 >> why we're here. 1442 01:01:27,599 --> 01:01:30,967 >> Yep. Yep. [cough] 1443 01:01:30,967 --> 01:01:31,920 [clears throat] 1444 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:32,799 >> All right. 1445 01:01:32,799 --> 01:01:33,599 >> That's all I had. 1446 01:01:33,599 --> 01:01:36,240 >> All right. Yeah. Keith, thank you for 1447 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:36,960 you guys. 1448 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:37,760 >> Thank you so much. 1449 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,640 >> Thank my the team in the back, too. 1450 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:41,599 >> To your team. 1451 01:01:41,599 --> 01:01:43,200 >> They're the brains. Really? 1452 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,280 >> Yeah. No, they've done a terrific job. 1453 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,640 So, uh I will close up the uh town 1454 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:53,240 workshop and I will see you back 7:30.