1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,990 Correct. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:05,600 » I don't have the gavl. 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,759 >> Call the joint budget workshop meeting 4 00:00:07,759 --> 00:00:08,880 to order. 5 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,200 >> And um pledge allegiance to the flag, 6 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:12,320 please. 7 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,960 >> I pledge allegiance to the flag, one 8 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:19,199 nation under the republic for it stands, 9 00:00:19,199 --> 00:00:22,400 one nation under God, indivisible, with 10 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,640 liberty and justice for all. 11 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,560 >> Thank you all. 12 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,119 Apologize about that. 13 00:00:29,119 --> 00:00:31,279 Let's see. Roll call. 14 00:00:31,279 --> 00:00:33,040 >> Here 15 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:33,520 >> back 16 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:34,239 >> here. 17 00:00:34,239 --> 00:00:36,320 >> Clark, excuse me 18 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:36,880 >> here. 19 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:37,600 >> Olsson 20 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,680 >> here. 21 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,440 >> Fin Olsson 22 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,200 >> here. 23 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:45,760 >> Daniel 24 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:46,559 >> here. 25 00:00:46,559 --> 00:00:49,520 >> My now he's excused. Kavalo 26 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:50,000 >> here. 27 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:50,800 >> Recker 28 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,719 >> here. 29 00:00:52,719 --> 00:00:55,199 >> We have one opening, right? 30 00:00:55,199 --> 00:00:57,680 >> Okay. Thank you. Uh public comments. 31 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:58,879 I've got one here. I don't know if 32 00:00:58,879 --> 00:01:00,079 there's any online, but I got one right 33 00:01:00,079 --> 00:01:05,750 here from Jim Pensel. 34 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,560 » Good evening, Jim Pel 512. 35 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,560 Um, first I want to express my concern 36 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,400 with the 6 p.m. start time of this as 37 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,159 you were with the 5:30 p.m. start time 38 00:01:14,159 --> 00:01:16,080 of this meeting. I ask that these 39 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,159 subsequent meetings are moved to 6 pm. 40 00:01:18,159 --> 00:01:20,479 If there is any interest in having 41 00:01:20,479 --> 00:01:22,320 public participation, 42 00:01:22,320 --> 00:01:24,960 um, I myself had to rush here. Um, I 43 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:27,600 gota go back to work, but anyways, 44 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,880 In regard to this evening's meeting, um 45 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,759 I'm also concerned that there's not an 46 00:01:33,759 --> 00:01:36,159 agenda item for goals being discussed or 47 00:01:36,159 --> 00:01:37,759 mentioned. It was briefly touched on and 48 00:01:37,759 --> 00:01:40,560 there was uh a staff and director wish 49 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,680 list, but even the costs of that wish 50 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,000 list never made it into this packet. So, 51 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,439 it would be extraordinarily difficult 52 00:01:47,439 --> 00:01:49,360 for the finance 53 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,399 u HR and Philip board to weigh in on 54 00:01:52,399 --> 00:01:57,759 those decisions. Um, and then, uh, 55 00:01:57,759 --> 00:01:59,840 finally, 56 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,960 I'm very concerned that 57 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,680 we didn't take into consideration 58 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,160 the highest rated things by our 59 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,879 citizens, such as public safety and 60 00:02:10,879 --> 00:02:13,520 streets. First, 61 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:14,800 the very first thing that we're going to 62 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,040 look at tonight is paying ourselves 63 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:21,599 more. Um and uh which is really 64 00:02:21,599 --> 00:02:23,120 difficult because there's no good data 65 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,319 that comes out for what that increased 66 00:02:26,319 --> 00:02:28,319 cost of benefits are until later in the 67 00:02:28,319 --> 00:02:30,319 year. Um you don't know what your 68 00:02:30,319 --> 00:02:32,959 revenues will be until later in the 69 00:02:32,959 --> 00:02:34,480 year. I'm sure Jessica can get you those 70 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,599 exact dates. But if we don't know our 71 00:02:37,599 --> 00:02:40,000 dollars in yet and the very first thing 72 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,360 we're going to want to do is spend more 73 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,599 money, I think that's a problem. And I 74 00:02:43,599 --> 00:02:45,680 think we need to rep prioritize. Look at 75 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,239 goals. look at what the electorate wants 76 00:02:48,239 --> 00:02:50,959 and maybe not what everyone wants first. 77 00:02:50,959 --> 00:02:53,760 Thank you. 78 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,360 >> Okay, let's see. Amendments from 79 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,280 previous meetings. None. Resolutions. 80 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,040 Number four, resolution 2026-023. 81 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,879 Resolution authorizing the issuance and 82 00:03:02,879 --> 00:03:07,910 sale of up to 1,291,283 83 00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:09,840 in waterworks system revenue bonds 84 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,760 series 20206 85 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,000 and providing for other details and 86 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,159 covenants with respect. There too and 87 00:03:16,159 --> 00:03:18,480 approval of related financial assistance 88 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,239 agreement. 89 00:03:20,239 --> 00:03:21,280 >> Motion to approve. 90 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,440 by early 91 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:24,159 >> second. 92 00:03:24,159 --> 00:03:27,040 by Zagami. On the question 93 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,959 >> I ask finance need a motion on this. 94 00:03:28,959 --> 00:03:31,599 It's just board. 95 00:03:31,599 --> 00:03:33,519 >> Yes, we could just use board. 96 00:03:33,519 --> 00:03:36,239 >> Just board. Okay. Any discussion? Any 97 00:03:36,239 --> 00:03:37,040 questions on board? 98 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,159 >> My my only question is this was to help 99 00:03:40,159 --> 00:03:42,480 finish well three for anybody to iron 100 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,319 and make these. Is that correct or 101 00:03:44,319 --> 00:03:45,920 >> correct? idea. And I guess I just want 102 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,200 to point out um I guess page 46 of the 103 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,519 packet shows that um with this safe 104 00:03:51,519 --> 00:03:53,440 drinking water loan, we have a little 105 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,120 over $3 million in principal 106 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,560 forgiveness. So of a $4.3 million 107 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,720 project, we're essentially paying $1.3 108 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,159 million and the other $3 million um I 109 00:04:04,159 --> 00:04:06,640 guess the state is more or less uh 110 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,959 taking the cost of. So, um, this 111 00:04:08,959 --> 00:04:10,720 essentially is our agreement with the 112 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,760 state for, uh, the 4.3 million, but we 113 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:19,749 only have to pay them back the 1.291. 114 00:04:19,759 --> 00:04:21,680 » Okay. 115 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,440 >> And then, um, with our PAS, I guess, uh, 116 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,840 class action lawsuit, they did remove 117 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:30,639 272,460,000 118 00:04:30,639 --> 00:04:33,040 from the overall project amount. So, 119 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:34,240 >> I was going to ask about that because I 120 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:35,680 had to note it down. I was like, what 121 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,280 does that mean? So they can move that 122 00:04:37,280 --> 00:04:37,680 off. 123 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,680 >> Yeah, since we received some of those uh 124 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,560 lawsuit monies, um I guess that's a 125 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,400 portion of it, too. So realistically, I 126 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,639 guess, yeah, the total project is the 127 00:04:46,639 --> 00:04:48,400 4.57. 128 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,720 Um if you take out the 272 that they 129 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,560 said we can't use from our lawsuit, then 130 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,840 it's the say 4.3. 131 00:04:55,840 --> 00:04:57,440 >> I think it said it in there, but how 132 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,919 much was the percentage on the borrow? 133 00:04:59,919 --> 00:05:03,280 It's like two something. 134 00:05:03,280 --> 00:05:05,120 If you go to the next page, the interest 135 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,199 rate is.365 136 00:05:07,199 --> 00:05:08,560 >> and then the total interest over the 137 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,120 grass loan is 333 138 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:12,639 blah blah blah something like that. 139 00:05:12,639 --> 00:05:15,280 >> Correct. Y 140 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:17,520 >> you can't use tiff money to fund water 141 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,120 works. It's like kind of like a separate 142 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:20,720 entity. So we have to do this on their 143 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:21,199 own. 144 00:05:21,199 --> 00:05:24,080 >> Right. Tiff is closed. 145 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,160 >> Tiff is closed too. 146 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,400 >> Okay. Any more 147 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:29,759 hearing? No more discussion. All those 148 00:05:29,759 --> 00:05:30,720 in favor say I. 149 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,919 >> I. Opposed. So carried unfinished 150 00:05:33,919 --> 00:05:35,120 business there's seeing that there's 151 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,680 none new business review budget process 152 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,120 and funds presentation review and 153 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,680 equalized value of new net new 154 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:46,310 construction 155 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,960 » I'm moving right to seven 156 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:50,800 >> no we have a powerpoint 157 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:57,270 >> okay 158 00:05:57,280 --> 00:06:11,990 Next. 159 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,960 » Okay. So, this presentation is also on 160 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,400 your laptops. It's on the desktop as a 161 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,560 PDF. So, if you want to open that up to 162 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,639 follow along um better. Um, after 163 00:06:24,639 --> 00:06:26,800 tonight, we will put it on our website 164 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,560 under the 2027 budget. So, anyone that 165 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,080 wants to go back and look through it, 166 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,400 it'll be up there in addition to the 167 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,550 YouTube video that 168 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,319 » it is. 169 00:06:40,319 --> 00:06:41,280 >> Yeah, 170 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:42,800 >> I'm waiting. 171 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,880 >> I kept looking for something else. 172 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,600 >> I can start with just 173 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,120 a little bit about the budget process. 174 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,039 This is our our first year in a couple 175 00:06:51,039 --> 00:06:52,560 years where we've done joint meetings 176 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,600 with finance and HR and board. It had 177 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,680 been that way in the past and every year 178 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,280 we kind of talk about how we want to do 179 00:06:59,280 --> 00:07:01,360 it because it's it's our choice. So this 180 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,599 year again would be joint meetings. So 181 00:07:03,599 --> 00:07:05,440 just a little bit about the timeline 182 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,120 that we're on. Uh we start these budget 183 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,120 workshops with kind of what are the 184 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,039 priorities, what are we thinking. Jess 185 00:07:13,039 --> 00:07:14,400 is going to go through tonight because 186 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,479 we have a lot of new faces and this is 187 00:07:16,479 --> 00:07:18,080 our first time doing it these joint 188 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,039 meetings in a couple years just about 189 00:07:21,039 --> 00:07:23,440 governmental financing and accounting. 190 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,520 Uh just a little bit of a brief summary 191 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,639 of the funds that we have. Uh we will we 192 00:07:28,639 --> 00:07:31,039 bring forward drafts through these 193 00:07:31,039 --> 00:07:34,400 budget workshop meetings that go through 194 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,520 September and October so we can drill 195 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,800 down into in decisions at each one. we 196 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,720 can talk a little bit about the how 197 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,720 we're going to handle which funds at 198 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:50,319 which meetings and that kind of comes to a conclusion at the end of October. 199 00:07:50,319 --> 00:07:52,080 It's the end of October because we are 200 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,479 required to do a public hearing posting 201 00:07:54,479 --> 00:07:56,720 and that has to be done 15 days before 202 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,960 the meeting is held. So that we we shoot 203 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,840 for that to go in our regular meeting in 204 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,919 November, which is the third Monday, in 205 00:08:05,919 --> 00:08:08,879 order to make the that to be the budget 206 00:08:08,879 --> 00:08:10,560 adoption, the hearing and the adoption 207 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,240 in order to get the information to the 208 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:13,599 county for the printing of the tax 209 00:08:13,599 --> 00:08:16,879 bills. So that's kind of our our our 210 00:08:16,879 --> 00:08:18,560 process everyone should have on their 211 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,680 calendars. Uh I I sent out invites for 212 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,919 all of the meetings. they are kind of on 213 00:08:23,919 --> 00:08:25,199 some different dates and at some 214 00:08:25,199 --> 00:08:26,800 different times than our our standard 215 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,720 Monday meetings and that's just so we 216 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,160 can get in those additional meetings 217 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,360 between now and the end of October. 218 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,599 So if if through the process if anyone's 219 00:08:35,599 --> 00:08:37,680 like I wish we had more time or I wish 220 00:08:37,680 --> 00:08:39,440 we could drill down more in that it's 221 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:40,959 important to say it right away because 222 00:08:40,959 --> 00:08:44,000 it is a condensed timeline and and the 223 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,839 ultimate goal again is to make sure 224 00:08:45,839 --> 00:08:48,160 we're not delaying anybody. The county 225 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,240 prints all the tax bills right at one 226 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,080 time. So if we delay the county, we 227 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,560 delay everybody's tax bills at one time. 228 00:08:54,560 --> 00:08:56,160 So we want to we want to make sure that 229 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,560 we're getting that information to them 230 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:04,550 by the mid November time frame. 231 00:09:04,560 --> 00:09:06,640 » Okay. A budget is a mathematical 232 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,440 confirmation of your suspicions. So u 233 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,279 when we go through the budget, it is 234 00:09:11,279 --> 00:09:13,600 just a guess. It's our best guesstimate. 235 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,200 We don't know what the snow's going to 236 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:16,720 do. We don't know if people are going to 237 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:21,920 be leaving, if we have to rehire, how we can rehire. Um, so when we go 238 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:23,920 through the budget, when we get to the 239 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,680 end of 2026 and end of 2027, usually the 240 00:09:27,680 --> 00:09:30,480 actuals are not that close. We're close, 241 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,560 but not where a lot of people think that 242 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:37,040 they should be because they are a budget 243 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:41,279 that we're doing in September usually. 244 00:09:41,279 --> 00:09:44,800 Okay, before we get into the deep down 245 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,640 into budget season, I really want to 246 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,040 talk about the funds so we're all on the 247 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,120 same page when we're talking the 248 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,320 budgeting of the funds and how they're 249 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,080 how each fund operates. 250 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,000 So, an introduction to government 251 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,160 accounting, state requirements and 252 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:03,920 regulations, and then where are we? So, 253 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,320 that's the outline of our presentation. 254 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,880 Um, first the introduction. Um 255 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,800 government account is overseen by the 256 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,040 governmental accounting standards board 257 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,519 Gatsby. Um the type of accounting used 258 00:10:15,519 --> 00:10:18,000 is called fund accounting. Um there are 259 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,000 three main types of funds. Governmental, 260 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,720 proprietary and fiduciary. Um the 261 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,560 governmental funds we include the 262 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:26,959 general special revenue, debt service, 263 00:10:26,959 --> 00:10:29,360 capital and then permanent. Um the 264 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,200 village does not have a permanent fund. 265 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,000 So we'll just be addressing one through 266 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,160 four. 267 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:41,600 Um governmental funds are we use the 268 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,200 they're accounted for on a modified 269 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,560 acral basis of accounting. Um we'll go 270 00:10:46,560 --> 00:10:48,720 through that in the next page but the 271 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,040 funds are the general fund which is the 272 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,160 chief operating fund of the village. Um 273 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,240 anything that doesn't belong in another 274 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,800 fund ends up in the general fund. 275 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,279 Special revenue special revenue funds 276 00:11:01,279 --> 00:11:03,519 cannot have a majority of their revenues 277 00:11:03,519 --> 00:11:06,000 coming from the tax levy. um usually 278 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:10,720 they're for a specific um expense. Um 279 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,519 example is refuge recycling. We gather 280 00:11:13,519 --> 00:11:16,240 the special charges off the tax rule and 281 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,959 we put them in our refuge recycling and 282 00:11:18,959 --> 00:11:21,519 that money goes specifically for our 283 00:11:21,519 --> 00:11:24,320 horrors bill and also do does the leaf 284 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:28,320 pickup and all our on Ryan Street when 285 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,120 we have everyone bring their leaves and 286 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,839 grasses there to process all those 287 00:11:33,839 --> 00:11:37,200 recyclable materials, organic materials. 288 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,000 Um the next one is the debt service 289 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,079 fund. It accounts for the resources and 290 00:11:44,079 --> 00:11:47,600 payments related to long-term debt for 291 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,320 those debt that's taken out for the 292 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,800 governmental funds, meaning it doesn't 293 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,959 include the utilities. Uh the last one 294 00:11:54,959 --> 00:11:56,560 we want to talk about is the capital 295 00:11:56,560 --> 00:11:58,880 projects funds. Um we don't want you to 296 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,040 confuse it with our capital improvement 297 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,120 program. A lot of times we'll talk about 298 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,120 CIP. It's either the CIP fund or the CIP 299 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,000 program. Uh the program includes the 300 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,519 utilities. So when we're planning a CIP 301 00:12:13,519 --> 00:12:16,079 plan, we talk about a road project and 302 00:12:16,079 --> 00:12:18,079 we'll talk about the expenses for the 303 00:12:18,079 --> 00:12:20,720 street, the water sewer and storm. In 304 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,680 the capital projects fund, what you're 305 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:25,519 going to see is just the accounting for 306 00:12:25,519 --> 00:12:27,360 the streets portion. We do not account 307 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,120 for the utilities in that. So okay, next 308 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:35,350 slide. 309 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,920 So this is an example of our proprietary 310 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,240 funds. It includes the enterprise funds, 311 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,399 water, source, storm. It also has the 312 00:12:42,399 --> 00:12:44,480 internal service fund. So the internal 313 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,440 service fund keeps track of our dental. 314 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,600 So we are self-insured for dental 315 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,320 meaning that we collect the premiums. We 316 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,360 use um safer is part of that. So we 317 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,000 collect money from the payroll and from 318 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,240 the employees. So we put it in a pot and 319 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,519 then Delta Dental is our administrator. 320 00:13:03,519 --> 00:13:05,600 So when the people go to the dentist, 321 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,519 they send the claims to Delta Dental and 322 00:13:07,519 --> 00:13:10,560 Delta Tendle tells us how much we owe. 323 00:13:10,560 --> 00:13:12,959 So then we they'll take the money out of 324 00:13:12,959 --> 00:13:15,680 our account. We've been really fortunate 325 00:13:15,680 --> 00:13:17,760 with the way that it's been operating 326 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,760 that we've had a surplus. We haven't 327 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,680 raised our rates. Last year was the 328 00:13:21,680 --> 00:13:24,160 first increase for quite a few years. 329 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,920 So, we'll see how the fund is going this 330 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,760 year to see if we need additional rate 331 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,990 increases. 332 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:38,880 The proprietary funds um these are funds 333 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,079 where the activities there's a fee for 334 00:13:42,079 --> 00:13:44,000 the external users for goods or 335 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,120 services. Um the charges for services 336 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,720 are their primary re revenue source and 337 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,880 similar to private business. 338 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,399 And then we talked about the internal 339 00:13:56,399 --> 00:13:59,120 service fund already. 340 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:00,959 Um things to know about governmental 341 00:14:00,959 --> 00:14:05,040 accounting again modified acrruel basis. 342 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,360 So we keep track of current resources. I 343 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,440 had a question the other day. Are we 344 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,680 going to see like what we just approved 345 00:14:11,680 --> 00:14:13,440 where Mountain Bet is going to be paying 346 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,839 us back for that building? Are we going 347 00:14:15,839 --> 00:14:17,920 to have a long-term receivable on that? 348 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,720 When you look at our fund balance sheet, 349 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,199 you are not going to see a receivable 350 00:14:23,199 --> 00:14:24,880 necessarily. We'll have to I'm just 351 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,959 going to talk with the auditors, but if 352 00:14:26,959 --> 00:14:28,800 you do see a receivable, you're also 353 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,880 going to see a deferred revenue, meaning 354 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:35,040 that the governmental rules do not allow 355 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,160 us to include revenue that's not 356 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,360 current, meaning uh 60 90 days or 357 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,040 sooner. So, you're not going to see that 358 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:44,720 revenue on the books right away. You're 359 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,320 going to see the receivable for Mountain 360 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,560 Bay, and you'll see a deferred revenue, 361 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,639 which matches that exact same dollar 362 00:14:50,639 --> 00:14:54,560 amount. So, uh, another thing we're 363 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,560 going to talk about, um, 364 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,760 oh, the debt. So, when we issue debt, 365 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,920 and you're going to look in the the debt 366 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,839 service fund, you're not going to see a 367 00:15:05,839 --> 00:15:08,000 long-term liability for all the debt 368 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,600 that we have issued. A lot of times 369 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,480 people get it kind of gets in the back 370 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,399 pages. People, well, you don't tell us 371 00:15:16,399 --> 00:15:18,399 how much we actually have in debt. Well, 372 00:15:18,399 --> 00:15:21,519 it's in the back pages by design. Not by 373 00:15:21,519 --> 00:15:24,240 design, but um following the rules, we 374 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,000 do not account for that on the balance 375 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,320 sheet, but if you look at the utilities, 376 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,440 you you would see the the amount of debt 377 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,440 that those utilities do owe. You'll see 378 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,440 the water revenue bonds on the balance 379 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,320 sheet and the geo bonds on the balance 380 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,870 sheet for the water, sewer, and storm. 381 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,040 And capital purchases, that's the last 382 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,399 thing we're going to talk about. Um, 383 00:15:48,399 --> 00:15:51,360 we do budget for capital expenditures in 384 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:52,800 the fund statements. We just talked 385 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,839 about the capital projects fund. Those 386 00:15:55,839 --> 00:15:57,600 are expenditures. You're going to see 387 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,920 what we anticipate spending on capital 388 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:02,240 items in that fund, but you are not 389 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,399 going to see it in the utilities. Uh, 390 00:16:04,399 --> 00:16:06,639 the utilities have capital assets on 391 00:16:06,639 --> 00:16:07,920 their balance sheet unlike the 392 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,880 governmental funds. So, you don't budget 393 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,040 assets. So, the only place that you're 394 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,680 going to see where we budget spending 395 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,920 money on capital infrastructure for the 396 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,680 utilities is going to be on our capital 397 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,320 improvement plan. So, just for 398 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,480 clarification, when we're going through 399 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:25,920 that stuff, if you're looking for 400 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,880 something and you don't see it, um, just 401 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,160 ask, um, it's there. It just may not be 402 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,199 in the place that you're looking for. 403 00:16:35,199 --> 00:16:38,000 Any questions? 404 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,320 It was a lot of information, but I 405 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,000 really thought we need to really be on 406 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,680 the same page. We're going to talk about 407 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,759 governmental funds. Then we're going to 408 00:16:47,759 --> 00:16:50,240 talk about the utility funds. Utility 409 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,600 funds are 410 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,519 their main revenue is that charges for 411 00:16:55,519 --> 00:16:57,920 services. There is no tax money in those 412 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,440 funds. When we talk about the 413 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,759 flexibility, it has a ton more 414 00:17:01,759 --> 00:17:03,839 flexibility than those in the 415 00:17:03,839 --> 00:17:05,839 governmental funds. When we talk about 416 00:17:05,839 --> 00:17:08,400 refuge recycle, all those expenditures 417 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,559 in that fund are financed by the refuge 418 00:17:12,559 --> 00:17:15,120 recycling charges that we put on the tax 419 00:17:15,120 --> 00:17:18,160 bill. They are not financed by property 420 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:19,520 taxes. So when we talk about 421 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,480 expenditures in that fund, 422 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,600 the choices we make doesn't necessarily 423 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,319 impact the tax bill. They're not limited 424 00:17:28,319 --> 00:17:31,120 by the allowable increase we can do on 425 00:17:31,120 --> 00:17:34,320 our tax bill. general fund is the main 426 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,160 fund that when we're talking about the 427 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,360 amount of revenue we can levy, it's very 428 00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:44,880 limited. A lot of times a strategy that 429 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,440 many governments use is what 430 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,440 expenditures can we kick out of the 431 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,280 general fund because the general fund 432 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,000 has so restricted on the revenues that 433 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,520 we can generate for that fund. And some 434 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:58,960 people would say you're playing the 435 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,039 shell game. 436 00:18:01,039 --> 00:18:03,440 We are trying to provide the services 437 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,000 that we can with the limited revenue 438 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:10,320 increases that the state allows. So 439 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,640 if you have any questions, don't forget 440 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,200 to ask. We'll take a couple breaks 441 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:19,190 because we got more information. 442 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:20,960 » No questions. 443 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,760 >> Okay. 444 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:28,470 >> Oh, state. 445 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,360 » Okay. the state requirements. Um we're 446 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:33,200 going to talk about this because a lot 447 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,120 of these reports that the finance 448 00:18:35,120 --> 00:18:38,000 department works on impacts directly the 449 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,039 budget that we do. Um a good example is 450 00:18:41,039 --> 00:18:42,880 our levy limit worksheet. That's the 451 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,919 worksheet we do for the state that um 452 00:18:45,919 --> 00:18:47,600 controls how much we can increase our 453 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,679 levy. And then we have the tax increment 454 00:18:49,679 --> 00:18:52,960 worksheet. That worksheet is done that 455 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,600 it affects the bottom line of our tax 456 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,080 bill. So it doesn't that increment 457 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,840 doesn't necessarily affect the general 458 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,320 fund, but it affects our tiff, our tiff, 459 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,960 too. Uh statement of tax is a great 460 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,919 summary of all the taxes that are on 461 00:19:07,919 --> 00:19:10,559 your tax bill. That's a form that the 462 00:19:10,559 --> 00:19:13,919 village fills out on and is available on 463 00:19:13,919 --> 00:19:16,559 the do website if you're looking for it. 464 00:19:16,559 --> 00:19:18,880 Another one, municipal financial report. 465 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,760 That report's super important. That one 466 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,840 is directly tied to our transportation 467 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,760 aid. So, if we don't fill that one out 468 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,559 correctly, um that could directly impact 469 00:19:28,559 --> 00:19:30,880 our transportation aid and especially if 470 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,840 we don't file it on time. That's one of 471 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,200 the reports that if you do not file on 472 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,080 time, they will reduce your aid. Uh 473 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,240 expenditure restraint. The village has 474 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,799 qualified for expenditure restraint. We 475 00:19:44,799 --> 00:19:47,919 are over $100,000 right now and has 476 00:19:47,919 --> 00:19:49,679 certain rules and regulations that we 477 00:19:49,679 --> 00:19:52,880 have to follow to um get those funds. 478 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,000 We're going to talk a little bit more 479 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,960 about that too in a little bit. 480 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,840 >> Yes. Levy limits. Municipality may 481 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,919 increase its levy over the prior year by 482 00:20:01,919 --> 00:20:03,919 a percentage increase in equalized value 483 00:20:03,919 --> 00:20:06,720 from net new construction. Net new 484 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,840 construction prior year as any demo and 485 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,600 destruction 486 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,039 is how they determine that number. If 487 00:20:15,039 --> 00:20:17,200 there was no net new construction, the 488 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,360 village would not be allowed to increase 489 00:20:19,360 --> 00:20:24,070 their levy at all. 490 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,240 This is an example. This is the most 491 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,760 current we just got on August 11th. This 492 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,320 is our statement of changes in equalized 493 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,799 value by class and item. That's a report 494 00:20:34,799 --> 00:20:37,360 that's given to us by the state. You can 495 00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:40,799 see um our 2025 equalized values. And 496 00:20:40,799 --> 00:20:44,320 then there's prior year 497 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,080 compensation 498 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,400 and then the economic change. the 499 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,640 economic change. Those numbers are 500 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,720 determined by the state. They're 501 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:57,039 determined by the sales information from 502 00:20:57,039 --> 00:20:59,440 the area. 503 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,600 Um, it's a I'll call it a makeup madeup 504 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,159 number. It basically inc tells you that 505 00:21:06,159 --> 00:21:08,640 your property is now worth $100,000 506 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,000 instead of um $90,000. 507 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,640 but it really doesn't have a direct 508 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,200 correlation to what you would see on 509 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,559 your tax bill. Um, here's the amount of 510 00:21:20,559 --> 00:21:22,799 net new construction. As you can see, 511 00:21:22,799 --> 00:21:25,200 the village has close to 2% again this 512 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,159 year. And you can see a lot of the 513 00:21:28,159 --> 00:21:29,840 increase came from residential 514 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,510 improvements. 515 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,880 Um, in the end% lower right corner, the 516 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,039 total change for the villages equalized 517 00:21:39,039 --> 00:21:41,200 value was 9%. 518 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,200 The next page, net new construction. 519 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,640 Um, the villages equalized value of 2025 520 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,480 1.9. Our net new construction is 31.3 521 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,080 million and that is an percentage of 522 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,799 1.624. So that's the amount we can 523 00:21:58,799 --> 00:22:02,799 increase our levy over our prior year. 524 00:22:02,799 --> 00:22:05,200 You can see where other municipalities 525 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:10,149 are on that same line. 526 00:22:10,159 --> 00:22:11,200 Yes. 527 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,679 >> Any questions on equalized value and net 528 00:22:13,679 --> 00:22:15,440 new construction? 529 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,799 They they don't they impact the net new 530 00:22:18,799 --> 00:22:20,799 construction impacts our budget 531 00:22:20,799 --> 00:22:23,440 significantly. When we don't get a big 532 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,120 number, that hurts. Um you can see our 533 00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:30,320 history on this one where we've ranged. 534 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,320 You can see the equalized value, the 535 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,080 assessed, and then how that affects our 536 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,559 net new construction. there is no 537 00:22:38,559 --> 00:22:40,159 correlation. 538 00:22:40,159 --> 00:22:42,159 So, it's really hard to determine and 539 00:22:42,159 --> 00:22:44,240 guess that number. 540 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,840 And you can see the amount of levy 541 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:50,720 increases that we've had since 2019. 542 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,400 95,000 is pretty good. So, we've had 543 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,310 some pretty good years, 544 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,080 but 95,000 doesn't cover a lot of budget 545 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,679 increase. There's absolutely no tie to 546 00:23:05,679 --> 00:23:09,679 um CPI. So when our fuel is running wild 547 00:23:09,679 --> 00:23:15,440 and we need to cover the cost of that comes out of that 95. Um our 548 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,080 workers comp we our modify factor went 549 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,400 up from86 to 1.17. 550 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,520 >> That's a $30,000 increase. That's taken 551 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,320 out of that number. Um mountain Bay 552 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,400 increase that's taken out of that 553 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,360 number. As you can see that that number 554 00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:35,280 is already in the negatives by taking so 555 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,600 much out of it. 556 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,559 Um this is why we continue to talk about 557 00:23:40,559 --> 00:23:45,360 our struggles. Um we do get some shared 558 00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:48,080 revenue increase. We get some general 559 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,440 transportation increase, but general 560 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,200 transportation increases aren't a 561 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,039 forever thing. We're going to plateau 562 00:23:55,039 --> 00:23:58,640 out. So the money we get from GTA we 563 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,679 need to be using wly wisely. 564 00:24:01,679 --> 00:24:04,320 Um, in our shared revenue, I think last 565 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:10,870 year we got 30,000. 566 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:11,600 » Okay. 567 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,080 >> We want to do seventh inning stretch. 568 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:14,480 >> Yes. 569 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:15,039 >> Okay. 570 00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:15,840 >> Thank you. 571 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,679 >> So, last year we did uh videos at the 572 00:24:19,679 --> 00:24:23,279 beginning. These are just 573 00:24:23,279 --> 00:24:24,559 they should be a little bit 574 00:24:24,559 --> 00:24:26,240 inspirational. They should be a little 575 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,320 bit fun. It's a way to break up the 576 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,320 presentation. 577 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,159 If there's a video that you all really 578 00:24:32,159 --> 00:24:33,760 like that you think would be good to 579 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,679 share, 580 00:24:35,679 --> 00:24:38,799 send it our way. But it also just, you 581 00:24:38,799 --> 00:24:40,960 know, gives a a rest in the middle. So, 582 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,600 this was a video that we wanted to share 583 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,240 today. They don't necessarily relate to 584 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,559 budget. I just want to I want to point 585 00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:50,640 that out. 586 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,679 >> This acts of generosity 587 00:24:53,679 --> 00:24:57,440 is how simple it is to make people feel 588 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,159 good. I was walking down the streets of 589 00:25:00,159 --> 00:25:02,320 New York City 590 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,080 and a guy walking in front of me, his 591 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,520 backpack opened and a bunch of paper 592 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,840 fell out on the on the street. I didn't 593 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,240 think much of it. I bent down. I 594 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,919 gathered up the papers, handed them back 595 00:25:11,919 --> 00:25:13,440 to him, and pointed out that his his bag 596 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,000 had opened. Now, in our bodies, there's 597 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,880 a chemical called oxytocin. Oxytocin is 598 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,159 responsible for all the warm and 599 00:25:20,159 --> 00:25:22,480 fuzzies, unicorns, and rainbows. It's 600 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,400 responsible for all the warm feelings 601 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,960 and connectedness we have with each 602 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,559 other. Friendship, love. Huge amounts of 603 00:25:30,559 --> 00:25:32,960 oxytocin surge through a woman's body as 604 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,400 she gives birth. This is what is 605 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,080 responsible for the mother child bond. 606 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,720 Oxytocin binds human beings. There are 607 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,360 many ways to get oxytocin. 608 00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:43,520 One of them is acts of kindness and acts 609 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,840 of generosity. It feels good when we do 610 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,600 something nice for someone. It feels 611 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,200 good when someone does something nice 612 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,640 for us. On this particular day, I did 613 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,240 something for someone with no 614 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,559 expectation of anything in return. I got 615 00:25:56,559 --> 00:25:59,760 a little surge of oxytocin. I felt good. 616 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,480 He turned to me and he said, "Thank you. 617 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,159 It feels nice when someone does 618 00:26:04,159 --> 00:26:05,760 something for us with no expectation of 619 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,200 anything in return." He felt good. 620 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,640 I walked to the end of the street. I'm 621 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,039 waiting to cross the street and a total 622 00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:14,640 stranger who happened to be standing 623 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:15,919 next to me said, "I saw what you did 624 00:26:15,919 --> 00:26:18,720 back there. That was really cool." As it 625 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,760 turns out, witnessing an act of 626 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,000 generosity 627 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,880 releases oxytocin 628 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,360 and he felt good. 629 00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:31,279 And the best part about oxytocin is the 630 00:26:31,279 --> 00:26:34,080 more oxytocin we have in our bodies, the 631 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,520 more generous we become. It is mother 632 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,000 nature's way of trying desperately to 633 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,039 get us to look after each other. I can 634 00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:45,279 guarantee you that that man who 635 00:26:45,279 --> 00:26:47,360 witnessed what I did did something nice 636 00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:49,679 for somebody that day simply because he 637 00:26:49,679 --> 00:26:51,440 saw someone do something nice for 638 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,320 somebody that day. So what if we commit 639 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,039 to do something nice for someone with no 640 00:26:57,039 --> 00:26:58,880 expectation of anything in return? 641 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,799 Imagine what happens at work. Imagine 642 00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:02,400 what happens at home. Imagine what 643 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,880 happens with our friends. 644 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:14,630 But it must be genuine. 645 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,400 was going to do a pop quiz on does 646 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,159 everyone know who was speaking but then 647 00:27:18,159 --> 00:27:23,750 his name flashed up huge at the end. So 648 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:29,669 no, 649 00:27:29,679 --> 00:27:32,960 » okay, we'll continue with the lovey 650 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,720 limit worksheet. So exciting. 651 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,159 Uh this is just we can go quickly unless 652 00:27:40,159 --> 00:27:42,159 you have questions there. There's not a 653 00:27:42,159 --> 00:27:44,080 lot to this, but I just want you to 654 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,559 understand that when we do the budget, 655 00:27:46,559 --> 00:27:48,720 when we do the levy, we just don't tell 656 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,760 the state what we want to levy. Um we go 657 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,080 through the calculations. You go to the 658 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,760 page prior. 659 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,760 >> Sure. 660 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:58,320 Give it a 661 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,000 >> That's a second page. 662 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:12,310 >> Catch up. 663 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,760 But if you have it on your computers, we 664 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,679 can talk about it. So, when you look at 665 00:28:15,679 --> 00:28:18,720 the levy limit worksheet on the page the 666 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:23,600 first page of it, um they they give you 667 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,240 your last year's levy and then they add 668 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,200 the personal property tax and then 669 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:35,919 there's the debt obligation debt general obligation debt authorized 670 00:28:35,919 --> 00:28:40,640 after 20 2005. that was um that's our 671 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,080 that's the money that we levy to pay our 672 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,080 debt that's associated with the general 673 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,000 fund. So 2.15 million. So if anyone ever 674 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,480 asks how much money do we levy to pay 675 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,120 for debt that that's it and it's really 676 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,000 straightforward on this worksheet. 677 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,080 And then we get the adjusted and then 678 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,799 we're allowed to increase with net 679 00:29:02,799 --> 00:29:06,549 construction. 680 00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:10,399 And then and that's pretty much all the 681 00:29:10,399 --> 00:29:13,520 adjustments we get. Um you can see line 682 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,799 one and eight are the same. I'm not sure 683 00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:19,120 how the TIFF closure is going to treat 684 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,200 that. I'm anticipating the top line is 685 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,120 going to be 686 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,799 88,169, 687 00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:31,120 but the bottom number might be 120,000. 688 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,120 That's something we'll have to see how 689 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,640 the do treats a tiff closure. never been 690 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,039 through it at this I think the last time 691 00:29:39,039 --> 00:29:40,720 I was through it I think I was two years 692 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,480 into it um into the village of Weston 693 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,000 like 2009 so I don't exactly reme 694 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,480 remember plus I think the levy limit 695 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,159 worksheet was a little different back 696 00:29:52,159 --> 00:29:55,760 then so this is and then if you look at 697 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,760 line five that's where you're going to 698 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,000 see that tiff is going to be there 699 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,399 there's going to be a percentage there 700 00:30:02,399 --> 00:30:04,960 that's going to allow us to increase our 701 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,750 levy for that TIFF closure. 702 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,360 So, um, very excited to see what that 703 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,080 ends up being. We kind of had had it 704 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,679 calculated 705 00:30:17,679 --> 00:30:19,840 close to $400,000 706 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,399 additional, but when I say that, I also 707 00:30:22,399 --> 00:30:24,880 said we might be having to subtract an 708 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,440 additional $100,000 because our personal 709 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:32,159 property aid is going up. Um that's that 710 00:30:32,159 --> 00:30:34,159 would be unfortunate 711 00:30:34,159 --> 00:30:37,120 but that's the way the levy limits work. 712 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,559 When we did our tiff increment we that 713 00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:42,799 personal property aid wasn't part of the 714 00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:44,399 calculation. 715 00:30:44,399 --> 00:30:48,559 Um but I think it just goes forward to 716 00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:51,600 how the state is trying to when the 717 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,760 different laws are passed, they have to 718 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,679 try to make 719 00:30:55,679 --> 00:30:58,880 um reports and forms to 720 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,960 follow the rules for each act that was 721 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,600 passed without having all the acts 722 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:10,720 really relating to one another. So, 723 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,200 and then this next page, if you go to 724 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,440 the next page, that again is just our 725 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,200 general obligation debt that's due in 726 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,760 2026. 727 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,760 So, that includes the interest and 728 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,919 principal payments. 729 00:31:25,919 --> 00:31:28,640 So, if you're ever curious, we we do 730 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,880 bring this worksheet forward so we can 731 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,360 talk about how much we actually pay for 732 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,750 our interest in principal. 733 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,080 Okay, I have a question just on you you 734 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,720 hit it kind of a little bit on the 735 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,880 personal property aids. Is that kind of 736 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,960 a set amount or does it increase with I 737 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,799 didn't think so, but I I just, you know, 738 00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:53,120 >> now the state, this is a good point of 739 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,880 what the state does. We used to have 740 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,120 personal property tax and it was part of 741 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,399 our levy. So when we were able to 742 00:32:00,399 --> 00:32:01,919 increase our levy with net new 743 00:32:01,919 --> 00:32:04,960 construction, guess what? our levy went 744 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,480 up more and right now we we add and 745 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:13,840 subtract it and that 88 never changes. 746 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,000 When we got new businesses and like 747 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,799 Amazon they had personal property our 748 00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:21,600 personal property aid went up. It 749 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,960 doesn't go up anymore. We're stuck. I 750 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,600 mean, it was nice the state gave us the 751 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,399 money to supplement the personal 752 00:32:30,399 --> 00:32:33,360 property tax for that year, but moving 753 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,480 forward, we don't get an increase. 754 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,240 >> Okay. That's kind of what I thought, but 755 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,919 I wasn't positive. Okay. 756 00:32:39,919 --> 00:32:40,399 >> Yeah. 757 00:32:40,399 --> 00:32:41,919 >> Thank you. 758 00:32:41,919 --> 00:32:45,360 >> There's a lot of stuff. Um, they say 759 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,440 cable franchise fees, they reduce the 760 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,120 amount that we could collect on that. 761 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,279 They give us a set amount and that 762 00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:54,480 amount doesn't ever change. 763 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,640 There's just a quite a few things that 764 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,640 the state has done. Oh, we're going to 765 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,799 supplement you, but that supplement 766 00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:02,399 number doesn't change. 767 00:33:02,399 --> 00:33:04,159 >> So, that makes it harder and harder for 768 00:33:04,159 --> 00:33:06,240 us to reach our goals because it does 769 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,559 that isn't going naturally up. It's just 770 00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:10,480 a flat fee. 771 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,549 >> Yes. 772 00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:18,230 » Okay. Thank you. 773 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,960 » This is just um part of our public 774 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,200 hearing notice. So, if you go back to 775 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,320 the budget book from 2026 budget, this 776 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,440 is just a copy. These numbers will tie 777 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,760 to some of the um forms that we'll be 778 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:40,389 showing in the next couple slides. 779 00:33:40,399 --> 00:33:42,559 The expenditure restraint, the main 780 00:33:42,559 --> 00:33:46,960 point here is we received $138,000 781 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,480 for our 2026 budget. We split 88 in the 782 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,279 general fund and 50 in capital. 783 00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:55,120 I said this before and I'll say it 784 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,200 again. I don't know if we can keep this. 785 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:58,960 Um that means that we'll be getting 786 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,919 $88,000 less less in the general fund. 787 00:34:01,919 --> 00:34:03,919 We talked about the certain rules and 788 00:34:03,919 --> 00:34:05,760 regulations that need to be followed. I 789 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,599 think they're on the next page. Yeah. So 790 00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:12,000 we talk about it. 791 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,919 This form is just super old because when 792 00:34:15,919 --> 00:34:18,879 we close our tiff, we're going to go up, 793 00:34:18,879 --> 00:34:21,440 like we said, around $400,000. Meaning 794 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,480 that we can increase our expenditures 795 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,480 around $400,000. 796 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,960 But the expenditure straight form 797 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,639 doesn't take into account non it doesn't 798 00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:35,679 take into account those type of 799 00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:37,280 situations. It's like if you were to 800 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,960 receive say a half a million dollar 801 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,800 grant you put it in your general fund, 802 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,399 you would kick yourself right out of 803 00:34:42,399 --> 00:34:44,960 this program. But that's where we have 804 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,280 to use the shell game or accounting 805 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,399 smarts and we kick the $500,000 in the 806 00:34:50,399 --> 00:34:52,159 special revenue fund that I talked about 807 00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:55,119 earlier. That's that grant money has to 808 00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:57,760 be used for a specific purpose so it's 809 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,839 able to stay in that fund and it keeps 810 00:34:59,839 --> 00:35:02,480 our general fund within this expenditure 811 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,510 restraint program. 812 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,680 So now, how is that I'm sorry. Can I 813 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:10,720 just 814 00:35:10,720 --> 00:35:14,960 >> How is that going to uh with the tiff? 815 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,800 >> It might kick us out of the program. 816 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:17,440 >> Okay. 817 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,920 >> There's a few things I want to look at 818 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,240 and I want to see if any other people 819 00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:25,359 have done it. But one of our recom 820 00:35:25,359 --> 00:35:28,000 things we could maybe do is kick our GTA 821 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,119 general transportation aid out, put the 822 00:35:31,119 --> 00:35:33,839 street maintenance, follow that all into 823 00:35:33,839 --> 00:35:37,359 fund 42, and keep our general fund 824 00:35:37,359 --> 00:35:40,160 expenditures within the restraint 825 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,920 program. 826 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,720 So, you're taking general transportation 827 00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:46,240 aid, which is supposed to be used for 828 00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:49,920 transportation, put it in 42, take the 829 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,680 expenditures, 830 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,240 maintenance, street maintenance, kick 831 00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:56,400 that out, and see if we can keep it 832 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:57,280 down. 833 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,240 >> Well, will it 834 00:35:58,240 --> 00:36:02,320 >> there? There are not a lot of rules 835 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,240 like there's no rule that will prevent 836 00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:06,960 you from doing it. It asks for what are 837 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,680 your general fund budget? What have you 838 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:14,079 levied in other funds for this? Like you 839 00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:16,240 can see the debt service and you can see 840 00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:17,680 the aquatic center. They're both up 841 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,320 there and that's what the state looks 842 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,680 like. They look at those numbers. 843 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,359 >> Okay. Cuz I was going to ask if we're 844 00:36:25,359 --> 00:36:28,240 applying some of the tiff funds to the 845 00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:30,560 borrowing. 846 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,880 >> So we're you're talking about the 847 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,680 closure. So when I talked about that, I 848 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,920 said when we close tiff 2. So we're 849 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,800 going to have our audit hopefully 850 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,760 October and at the end of that audit the 851 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,040 auditors will have a final number of 852 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,520 what's left in the tiff district that 853 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,760 needs to be allocated to the other 854 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,000 taxing jurisdictions and what amount 855 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,160 remains with us. 856 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,040 So that final number which we won't know 857 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,520 till after the audit that's the number 858 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,320 and it will not 859 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,320 the expenditure straight program is 860 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,280 based on our 2026 budget and we don't 861 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,040 have anything in there for tiff. 862 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,040 >> Okay I was just wondering 863 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,880 >> so it won't impact it. That's why the 864 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,200 program's so messed up. It doesn't. 865 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,720 There's so many ways around it and you 866 00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:25,280 need to know what you're doing to find 867 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,119 those ways and stay in compliance. 868 00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:31,520 >> So, approximately what would we lose if 869 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,440 we get kicked out of this program? 870 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:34,079 >> What? 871 00:37:34,079 --> 00:37:36,160 >> How much money will we lose? 872 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,079 >> $138,000. 873 00:37:38,079 --> 00:37:41,920 >> Okay. Okay. So, that's another We got to 874 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:42,880 find it. 875 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,200 >> 88 is in the general fund. When we did 876 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,240 this, we split it. We split it so 877 00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:50,560 knowing if we ever lost the program, we 878 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,480 wouldn't have to take the full hit. 879 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:53,520 >> Okay. 880 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,400 >> And that's part of the strategy that we 881 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,640 do for budgeting. Like I said, when you 882 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,359 can kick it out of the general fund, 883 00:38:01,359 --> 00:38:04,640 let's do that because 884 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,040 it it just works out for your long-term 885 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,829 future. You have more flexibility. 886 00:38:11,839 --> 00:38:14,240 » Okay. I was wondering. Thank you. Just 887 00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:17,119 real quick, Michael rent the flash truck 888 00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:20,320 has gone by our gates three times. Just 889 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,800 is he trying to get in or something? 890 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:23,280 >> Who is it? 891 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:24,320 >> I don't think so. 892 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,320 >> So, it's a rent the flash. It's got a 893 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,200 big white truck with a a um you know a 894 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,280 gated bed. He's over on this side now. 895 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:31,680 >> Okay. 896 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,200 >> He came in first here, then he went here 897 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,560 and now he's back there again. 898 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:35,040 >> Okay. 899 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,359 >> I just didn't know 900 00:38:37,359 --> 00:38:39,599 trying to get trying to find some signs. 901 00:38:39,599 --> 00:38:42,720 Thank you. Sorry about that. 902 00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:44,240 >> This is 903 00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:47,359 Thank you. This is just a copy of the 904 00:38:47,359 --> 00:38:49,680 worksheet that we have to fill out. Kind 905 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,280 of like what I had on that Excel 906 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:58,069 spreadsheet. 907 00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:00,320 Uh what's my property worth? We're going 908 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:01,920 to talk about the difference between 909 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,599 assessed, equalized, and appraised. I 910 00:39:03,599 --> 00:39:05,119 know we do this every year, but I think 911 00:39:05,119 --> 00:39:08,079 it's always a great refresher. 912 00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:09,760 >> Assessed value is the value that the 913 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,839 village assessor puts on your property. 914 00:39:11,839 --> 00:39:13,839 We just had a reassessment a couple 915 00:39:13,839 --> 00:39:17,040 years ago. He he did that reassessment 916 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,839 based on the current sales values and he 917 00:39:19,839 --> 00:39:21,920 has to make sure that when he reassesses 918 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,000 everybody the total assessed value of 919 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,720 the village is close to the equalized 920 00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:29,359 value that the state put on and he has 921 00:39:29,359 --> 00:39:31,839 to do it by class. So when he's when 922 00:39:31,839 --> 00:39:34,160 you're looking at the residential, 923 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,480 commercial, and all those other classes, 924 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,400 at the end of his assessment when he 925 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,599 went through the village, he had to make 926 00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:41,920 sure he was with was within a certain 927 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:46,550 percentage of those. 928 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,440 If there are any issues with someone's 929 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,680 if you know someone that is complaining 930 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,200 about their assessed value, tell them to 931 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:57,280 go to open book border review. Um, our 932 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,359 assessor does work with people if you 933 00:39:59,359 --> 00:40:01,440 feel that your assessed value is 934 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,480 incorrect. Um, you need to talk to Greg 935 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,240 and you can appear before board of 936 00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:10,000 review. There's always a an out to talk 937 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,720 about your frustrations if you feel that 938 00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:18,550 is not assessed properly. 939 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,320 Equalized value is value put on your 940 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,599 property given by state. State law 941 00:40:23,599 --> 00:40:27,440 requires assessors to be within 10% or 942 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,839 of the state's equalized value at least 943 00:40:29,839 --> 00:40:32,160 once in every four-year period. 944 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,880 Unfortunately, that that sheet I showed 945 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,720 you before with that equalized value, 946 00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:38,960 the state is definitely changing our 947 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,400 equalized value faster. I know other 948 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,000 municipalities are having the same 949 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,240 problem. And unfortunately, it's 950 00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:48,160 municipalities that have to pay for a 951 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,440 reassessment when we are without outside 952 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,079 that 10% boundary. They're not they're 953 00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:57,040 not cheap. It's unfortunate that the 954 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,240 system, my my opinion, is broken. We 955 00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:03,599 shouldn't be forced to pay hundreds,000 956 00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:06,240 or more because the state is continuing 957 00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:11,599 to value our property and our our values 958 00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:14,240 don't keep up with assessed values. 959 00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:19,829 There's got to be a better answer. 960 00:41:19,839 --> 00:41:21,520 Here's an example of a tax bill. It 961 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,280 shows your total assessed value and the 962 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,200 estimated fair market value, which more 963 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,640 or less is the equalized value. 964 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:33,990 Then the assessment ratio. 965 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,599 The price value. We're just going to 966 00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:37,920 touch on this slightly. This is my what 967 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,520 you're familiar with if you want to go 968 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,200 refinance your home or if you're looking 969 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,200 to take out a mortgage on a new home. 970 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,880 The appraised value is the value that 971 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,440 the banks will look at. Um, more than 972 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,200 likely will be different from both your 973 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:56,870 assessed and equalized value. 974 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,680 So, where we are now, uh, this goes a 975 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,280 little bit into the next agenda item, 976 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,160 but just revisiting those priorities. We 977 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,920 talked about them both at the finance 978 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,520 and HR meeting and at the board meeting 979 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,079 last week. I was going to say last 980 00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:15,599 month, but that was only last week. 981 00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:17,440 >> These were some items that we had heard. 982 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,240 We just wanted to give a moment tonight 983 00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:23,920 to see if there was any additions or 984 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,400 changes. Again, what sort of happens 985 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,480 from this point is if there are 986 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,880 priorities, we're not saying we can work 987 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,880 them into the budget. What we will do is 988 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,680 as we're putting items together, we 989 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,160 would try to work them into the budget 990 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,400 and bring that back to you and say this 991 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:49,750 is what it needs. 992 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,200 So maybe I'll I'll give a a 993 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,880 we'll go to the next slide which is just 994 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,960 a little bit about the consumer price 995 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,680 index. um because maybe we'll read that 996 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,680 priority agenda item and then if we have 997 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,359 any if there's anything more to add 998 00:43:03,359 --> 00:43:06,000 outside of those we could have that 999 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,240 conversation then. But I just wanted to 1000 00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:09,680 point out kind of where we were last 1001 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,760 year to this year on the consumer price 1002 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:16,160 index. The CPI is often a common 1003 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,119 uh way of evaluating what the cost 1004 00:43:19,119 --> 00:43:21,200 increase has been in the last year. Last 1005 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,440 year we were at at 2.7 at the end of 1006 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:31,990 July and this year we're at 3.4. 1007 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,520 We're going to talk a little bit more 1008 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,359 about this when we get into the agenda 1009 00:43:35,359 --> 00:43:41,200 item about uh wages, benefits, and um if 1010 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,880 we want to establish anything different 1011 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,119 for trustee wages going into the next 1012 00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:49,119 term of office. So we uh I have a piece 1013 00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:58,630 an RFC that that covers this too. 1014 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:03,040 And then just our our last quote that a budget should reflect the values and 1015 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,800 priorities of our nation and its people. 1016 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,400 If anyone else has good quotes you want 1017 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,240 to share, let us know too because we 1018 00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:11,680 would put them into the powerpoints 1019 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:21,750 going forward. 1020 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,920 » Moving on to six. Thank you, Jessica. 1021 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:24,800 >> Yeah, thank you. 1022 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:25,839 >> Veryformational. 1023 00:44:25,839 --> 00:44:27,040 >> Good presentation. 1024 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,839 >> Like I said, any questions, let me know. 1025 00:44:29,839 --> 00:44:32,319 We're going through this process, but 1026 00:44:32,319 --> 00:44:35,040 there's if you have questions, let us 1027 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,390 know. 1028 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,599 » Good. Moving on to six, discussion, 1029 00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:45,359 interaction on 2027 budget priorities. 1030 00:44:45,359 --> 00:44:47,200 Any additional discussion continued from 1031 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:48,880 prior finance and human resources and 1032 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:58,870 board of trustees meetings? 1033 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,560 Can we talk a little bit more about 1034 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,640 doing longer term goals and would that 1035 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,720 be considered a priority? Like setting 1036 00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:06,560 having departments set a one year, a 1037 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,880 three year and a fiveyear goal. Could 1038 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,160 that be something that could be worked 1039 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,240 into budgetary when they're proposing 1040 00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:14,160 their 2027 1041 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,880 saying this is 2027, we imagine in three 1042 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,880 years we're going to need X, Y, and Z. 1043 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,560 And in five years we could look at a 1044 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:21,920 little bit longer term. Is that 1045 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,520 something that could happen? 1046 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:26,960 >> Yeah. I don't know that we could always 1047 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,560 establish a number with that but 1048 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,480 certainly 1049 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,040 what we're thinking for future. Yes. you 1050 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,319 know, like we talked last time when you 1051 00:45:34,319 --> 00:45:36,000 brought it up, you know, we can bring in 1052 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,319 start just populating more and more 1053 00:45:38,319 --> 00:45:40,960 spots in the next year's, you know, 1054 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,440 three or five year budgets and as you 1055 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:44,800 know, three or five years from now, 1056 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,319 it'll have we'll have more population in 1057 00:45:46,319 --> 00:45:47,359 there because those are the things, 1058 00:45:47,359 --> 00:45:49,280 those are the priorities that we want to 1059 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,040 do. I think that's a great idea. 1060 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:51,839 >> I really do. 1061 00:45:51,839 --> 00:45:52,480 >> We do that 1062 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:53,680 >> and kind of have a gear mark. 1063 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,599 >> Yeah. Somewhat in borrowing. I can 1064 00:45:55,599 --> 00:45:58,560 remember we used to they would streets 1065 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:03,040 especially would do a kind of projected 1066 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,319 >> correct Michael does it on a CI 2026 1067 00:46:06,319 --> 00:46:08,079 2027 2028 1068 00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:08,640 >> right 1069 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,319 >> I would imagine there's some way that 1070 00:46:10,319 --> 00:46:11,680 some of these departments could do 1071 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,680 something similar it would be perfect 1072 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,440 but something similar so we can start 1073 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,200 looking you know longer term if we know 1074 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,920 a specific department 1075 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,880 is going to need x y and z personnel We 1076 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,200 know that in two years they're going to 1077 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:28,880 need an increase which might be another 1078 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,880 $70,000 for budget. So we need to start 1079 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:31,599 planning. 1080 00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:34,160 >> I guess I would like to ask I mean we 1081 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:40,640 can only ask that like the police and fire would kind of do that also. 1082 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,640 >> I think that's a good suggestion 1083 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,760 >> because that's where the big funds 1084 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,079 besides the street. That's where the big 1085 00:46:48,079 --> 00:46:50,560 funds come in is this those three 1086 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,520 departments that you know and they they 1087 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,440 can kind of control where which 1088 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,520 direction we're going. So, 1089 00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,200 >> and do we have a difference of what a 1090 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,079 priority is versus a goal? Meaning a 1091 00:47:02,079 --> 00:47:05,200 goal might mean a village is looking at 1092 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,920 growth versus maintenance. 1093 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,319 >> Then a priority of a lawnmower is 1094 00:47:10,319 --> 00:47:12,000 something that the department wants, but 1095 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:16,079 is that a village goal? I would say your 1096 00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:18,960 goals are in your strategic plan and 1097 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,880 your budget would be your priorities 1098 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,720 that you're going to force for that 1099 00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:26,160 year. So your your strategic plan would 1100 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,400 outline what are those big goals? What's 1101 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:32,319 that long-term vision? Because 1102 00:47:32,319 --> 00:47:34,240 making the determination of whether or 1103 00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:36,960 not you want it growth or maintenance, 1104 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,800 that's a that's a big goal for a 1105 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,040 village. you're you're you're projecting 1106 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,960 out for a long time saying we're going 1107 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,319 to make the determination that we're 1108 00:47:46,319 --> 00:47:47,920 only doing maintenance and not growth, 1109 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,760 right? Like that's that's a larger 1110 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,680 conversation. That's a strategic. So I 1111 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,480 would say goals are strategic and and 1112 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,319 these priorities are they're really 1113 00:47:56,319 --> 00:47:58,960 thinking the next one to two maybe three 1114 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,119 years. I mean even our capital plan we 1115 00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:04,319 do project out five but it we're 1116 00:48:04,319 --> 00:48:06,480 shifting all the time in that. I mean, 1117 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,720 we we do, which we're going to talk 1118 00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:10,640 about capital here in just a little bit. 1119 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,560 You're certainly working on those 1120 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,200 engineering plans a year or maybe two 1121 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,319 years in advance. Um, but so in five 1122 00:48:18,319 --> 00:48:20,319 years, those items could shift 1123 00:48:20,319 --> 00:48:23,359 dramatically depending on what happens. 1124 00:48:23,359 --> 00:48:25,839 >> And when do we re review that strategic 1125 00:48:25,839 --> 00:48:28,319 plan? Out of curiosity, I don't remember 1126 00:48:28,319 --> 00:48:31,359 when we did our last one. So, I had that 1127 00:48:31,359 --> 00:48:33,359 as part of our priorities if we wanted 1128 00:48:33,359 --> 00:48:34,960 to have someone walk through us with 1129 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,000 that because our our plan uh it went 1130 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,800 essentially through 2025 if we wanted to 1131 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,839 have someone come in and and redo our 1132 00:48:43,839 --> 00:48:46,480 plan, update our plan um or if we wanted 1133 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,480 to reaffirm our four goals that were in 1134 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,079 the prior plan that also you know that's 1135 00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:53,520 your mission, your vision and your 1136 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:54,720 values. 1137 00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:57,280 >> Well, those plans if we bring somebody 1138 00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,160 in is not cheap. I would say between8 to 1139 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:01,760 $10,000 1140 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,000 >> and I I think it coit funds is what paid 1141 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,800 for it. It was a it was part of but 1142 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,400 thank you 1143 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,599 >> um hope to assist with that and we 1144 00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:14,079 certainly could do an RFP and see what 1145 00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:16,160 um if there would be an entity that 1146 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,319 would be you know interested 1147 00:49:18,319 --> 00:49:20,720 >> or maybe we need to look at what we had 1148 00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:24,079 before and see if that's still our 1149 00:49:24,079 --> 00:49:26,400 or do we want to tweak it you know. 1150 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,400 >> Yeah. And that for one of our upcoming 1151 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,280 budget workshop meetings, we could 1152 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,040 add that into the packet. 1153 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,920 >> It it's on the website. Um it's off the 1154 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,800 administrator's page if to download. 1155 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,760 It's it's not a a super large document. 1156 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,920 I think it's probably, you know, 12 1157 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,359 pages. Uh so it's it's a fast read. 1158 00:49:49,359 --> 00:49:55,670 It's, you know, it's not a binder full, 1159 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,359 right? Yeah, go ahead. 1160 00:49:57,359 --> 00:49:58,880 >> I guess I don't know if we want to make 1161 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,559 prompt discussion on just looking at the 1162 00:50:00,559 --> 00:50:03,119 priorities that were on that slide and 1163 00:50:03,119 --> 00:50:04,800 just making sure that they fit within 1164 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,200 the priorities given to us by residents 1165 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,440 on the comp plan. Um again reading from 1166 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:10,559 the top of that list with their 1167 00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:12,160 importance. We're looking at EMS, road 1168 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,240 maintenance repairs, fire, blowing, 1169 00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:16,079 salting, trash collection, public water 1170 00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:18,319 service, recycling collection, and then 1171 00:50:18,319 --> 00:50:20,720 we get underneath 60%. 1172 00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:23,040 And 86% of people said road maintenance 1173 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,200 and repairs were important and 13% are 1174 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,599 currently satisfied. So I'm wondering do 1175 00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:29,119 all of these priorities that we've 1176 00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:31,760 identified actually fit within 1177 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,720 those or are these more staff and board 1178 00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:36,559 member priorities versus community 1179 00:50:36,559 --> 00:50:38,640 priorities? I'm not saying one way or 1180 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,240 another, but I do feel like a couple of 1181 00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:43,280 those maybe don't don't fit in those 1182 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,400 identified importance levels given to us 1183 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:55,990 by the community. 1184 00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:00,720 I I think some of our priorities help 1185 00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:04,800 staff time be readjusted toward meeting 1186 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:10,160 um our priorities. I also think 1187 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,640 and I I don't have data to support this, 1188 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,440 but I also think part of our our road 1189 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,400 maintenance concerns from residents are 1190 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,079 on projects that are outside of our 1191 00:51:20,079 --> 00:51:22,960 control. Um like Business 51, Camp 1192 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,480 Phillips Road. Um things that we can't 1193 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,920 control the the maintenance on it. Um 1194 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,160 because you know I've been on public 1195 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,680 works now for a few years and I think 1196 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,680 the village does a great job making our 1197 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,440 streets a priority and we have a lot of 1198 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,680 really good streets around our 1199 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:46,880 community. So it's hard to know exactly 1200 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,440 where we would make a priority if it's 1201 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:50,640 street maintenance or street 1202 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,359 improvements. Um, at least from my 1203 00:51:53,359 --> 00:51:54,720 perspective as a committee member, 1204 00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:56,720 because when I think of our system as a 1205 00:51:56,720 --> 00:51:59,119 whole, I'm like, we have a lot of really 1206 00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:01,440 good streets, we certainly know in our 1207 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,520 older part of the village, um, over 1208 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,640 toward like the the junior high, there's 1209 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,800 an older area that we're we're working 1210 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,400 on making improvements. Um, and we we 1211 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,960 have that as part of our CIP. Um, but 1212 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,240 >> yeah, I rambled. Sorry. 1213 00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:19,760 >> That's okay. I said I wasn't really 1214 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,359 pushing one way or another. I just, you 1215 00:52:21,359 --> 00:52:23,760 know, if we're presented with that 1216 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,599 question, how do these fit in? What do, 1217 00:52:25,599 --> 00:52:27,200 you know, public safety is like 1218 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,800 obviously dominating the top with roads? 1219 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,400 So, I mean, a lot of these you could art 1220 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,720 articulated public safety, but I just, 1221 00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:34,000 like I said, just throwing out there as 1222 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:38,079 a discussion points, you know, how do we answer those questions if we 1223 00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:39,680 make sure that priorities that we have 1224 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:44,240 in this room are the priorities of the citizens that were identified for us 1225 00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:46,240 with that comp? And I do realize like 1226 00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:47,839 you know only 700 residents did that 1227 00:52:47,839 --> 00:52:50,319 comp plan but the only data we have to 1228 00:52:50,319 --> 00:52:53,520 go off of. So 1229 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,280 >> we could maybe delineate these 1230 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,839 priorities a little bit better saying 1231 00:52:57,839 --> 00:52:59,839 you know if the purchase of one robotic 1232 00:52:59,839 --> 00:53:02,559 lawn mower is a priority that is because 1233 00:53:02,559 --> 00:53:05,599 they're trying to look at staffing and 1234 00:53:05,599 --> 00:53:07,839 reallocate staffing in a better way to 1235 00:53:07,839 --> 00:53:10,720 support what was saying. So maybe these 1236 00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:13,760 can be delineated out a little bit more. 1237 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,040 Don't know if that would 1238 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,200 >> Yeah, I don't know what the outcome I 1239 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:18,480 was looking for. So, that really helps, 1240 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:19,599 right, when you bring up a discussion 1241 00:53:19,599 --> 00:53:21,200 topic. I just I just thought it was 1242 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:22,240 something we should consider it because 1243 00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:23,359 that's something as I was thinking about 1244 00:53:23,359 --> 00:53:24,960 earlier today as we were looking at some 1245 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,630 of the priorities. 1246 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,640 » Well, you know, the robotic if if it 1247 00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,319 keeps getting brought up, you know, with 1248 00:53:32,319 --> 00:53:33,920 Scoffield Avenue, what's the percentage 1249 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,960 that we took the grass cutting down by 1250 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,200 putting in uh cement, stamped cement, uh 1251 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:40,960 now we've got uh you know, bushes and 1252 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,160 perennials and whatever in there instead 1253 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,079 of grass. So, it's always been one of my 1254 00:53:44,079 --> 00:53:45,760 concerns, number one, they have staff 1255 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,520 out there cutting in the middle of a 1256 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,160 medium, you know, how dangerous it is. 1257 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,720 >> Uh, summer help and and why and then 1258 00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:54,319 we've got to put water to it, you know, 1259 00:53:54,319 --> 00:53:58,000 to to green it. Um, I I'm, you know, 1260 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,040 I've been out southwest and I think rock 1261 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,280 and cement and some different colors of 1262 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,680 cement are are gorgeous with all that 1263 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,119 maintenance. I mean, we we can't even 1264 00:54:07,119 --> 00:54:08,800 cut our own lawn right now without 1265 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,040 hiring I think Riverside or whoever 1266 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,040 helps us out. So, we have a contract 1267 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:14,880 with that. So, the mower, we're looking 1268 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,800 I'm sure we're looking at the mower to 1269 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,400 help us with payroll. 1270 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:18,880 >> Correct. 1271 00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,720 >> But what are the limitations of this 1272 00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:22,720 robotic mower? How how much maintenance 1273 00:54:22,720 --> 00:54:24,880 do we have to have? It can't be out at a 1274 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,280 park. I mean, I know they have GPS's, so 1275 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,200 if someone steals it, we can track it, 1276 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:30,800 but does it jump up and down off the 1277 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,200 curbs? Can, you know, can it only do 1278 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:34,720 this one section at a time, then we've 1279 00:54:34,720 --> 00:54:36,319 got to go out there and help it up on a 1280 00:54:36,319 --> 00:54:38,160 curb and do the next section? I guess 1281 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,800 that's the why I would say we'd want to 1282 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,280 get one to see see first how effective 1283 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:44,000 it can be. 1284 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:45,920 >> So so over at the fire department would 1285 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,920 be a possibility, you know. Well, we 1286 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,680 have personnel there all the time. We 1287 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,200 have personnel here all the time. 1288 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,359 Otherwise, everything else we'd have to 1289 00:54:53,359 --> 00:54:55,599 be out there or checking back on it to 1290 00:54:55,599 --> 00:54:57,040 see if it's done with the park or done 1291 00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,599 with this section at a certain time. I 1292 00:54:59,599 --> 00:55:01,119 mean, I know there's some big sections 1293 00:55:01,119 --> 00:55:04,480 we do. Um, and maybe that would work. I 1294 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:05,520 don't know what the maintenance is. I 1295 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,040 don't know how long they last. I don't 1296 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:08,480 even know how much they are. 1297 00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,640 >> The district uses them on all the soccer 1298 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,960 fields. So they would be a good resource 1299 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,160 and they don't check on their I mean 1300 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:15,119 they're not going out there to check on 1301 00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:15,359 theirs. 1302 00:55:15,359 --> 00:55:17,200 >> No. And there's people there so so they 1303 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:18,880 can help that out. And that's a big 1304 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,319 section at one time. Right. 1305 00:55:20,319 --> 00:55:20,880 >> Right. 1306 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,640 >> It's also fenced in area so it makes it 1307 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,800 really easy to keep the robot where it's 1308 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:25,760 supposed to be. 1309 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,079 >> Oh, I I look at the lawns. I I look at 1310 00:55:28,079 --> 00:55:29,760 personal, you know, people's lawns and I 1311 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,440 think they're gorgeous. You know, I 1312 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:32,960 always think that they randomly do this. 1313 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,559 No, they don't. They go and they they 1314 00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:35,920 put the lines in that you want, you 1315 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,800 know. So yeah, so I'm I'm assuming that 1316 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,280 that's there to take away some payroll. 1317 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:42,720 Definitely. 1318 00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:44,800 >> We cut a lot a lot of lawn, you know, to 1319 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,960 the point now that I think years ago we 1320 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,400 weren't even identifying where that 1321 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,880 labor was going. Now we are. So now we 1322 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,839 actually have the labor um slotted to 1323 00:55:53,839 --> 00:55:55,599 what is a lawn cutting so that we can 1324 00:55:55,599 --> 00:55:57,920 identify if we're up or down each year 1325 00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,599 or whatever. Okay, good. 1326 00:55:59,599 --> 00:56:01,680 >> I think we we talked with the potential 1327 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,839 of the facilities or grounds position 1328 00:56:05,839 --> 00:56:07,760 because of the TIFF closure and bringing 1329 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,599 those funds back that we are paying the 1330 00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:11,280 outside firm if if we had that 1331 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,920 additional staff help. So I don't don't 1332 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:15,760 necessarily want to say that it would 1333 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,359 save on labor, but it would give our 1334 00:56:17,359 --> 00:56:20,559 labor the ability to do higher purpose 1335 00:56:20,559 --> 00:56:26,630 task than than the mowing. 1336 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:27,760 » Yeah. Go ahead. 1337 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,839 >> Why couldn't we put the ground cover in 1338 00:56:29,839 --> 00:56:32,400 there? If we put the ground cover, we 1339 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,359 don't need to cut it. Mhm. 1340 00:56:35,359 --> 00:56:39,040 And it's not really difficult. 1341 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,440 So, 1342 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,720 I have used it. It work 1343 00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:46,880 maintenance. 1344 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:47,839 Well, I don't know what you all think, 1345 00:56:47,839 --> 00:56:49,680 but um you know, I know we have a just 1346 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,000 two little mediums over on Camp Phillips 1347 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,480 and Ross Avenue that have uh a colored 1348 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,440 cement one way and then we've got some 1349 00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:58,960 uh actually we got a donated from 1350 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,359 Everest. They donated some of the extra 1351 00:57:01,359 --> 00:57:03,760 turf to put on those other two. You you 1352 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:08,240 drive down Thomas Street in Wasau that artificial turf looks not that 1353 00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:09,440 looks pretty good to me. And they 1354 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:10,559 maintain it well. They don't let the 1355 00:57:10,559 --> 00:57:11,680 weeds come up on the side. 1356 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:12,319 >> I was 1357 00:57:12,319 --> 00:57:15,200 >> and uh unless you don't like it, but I 1358 00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,359 mean if you want green, it it can 1359 00:57:17,359 --> 00:57:19,599 certainly be that. So yeah. Well, that's 1360 00:57:19,599 --> 00:57:21,920 the one thing that um when you said that 1361 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,880 they keep the weeds out, it it drives me 1362 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:26,880 crazy when you go down these strips 1363 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,599 where it's cement or black top in the 1364 00:57:29,599 --> 00:57:32,160 middle, then you got all these weeds 1365 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,040 coming up in by the cracks and it looks 1366 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:36,319 terrible. I mean, 1367 00:57:36,319 --> 00:57:38,640 >> but it's everywhere, you know. So, so I 1368 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,160 get calls on Camp Phillips and I go, 1369 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:41,359 "Cam Phillips 1370 00:57:41,359 --> 00:57:42,319 >> is the county, 1371 00:57:42,319 --> 00:57:42,640 >> right?" 1372 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,720 >> You know, or or a road going on the 1373 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,640 highway and you're four feet in the air, 1374 00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,720 >> right? Um I I used to I used to call all 1375 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,319 the time on the arrow bar, you know, 1376 00:57:50,319 --> 00:57:52,559 right there in that that now got redone 1377 00:57:52,559 --> 00:57:54,079 >> and my heavens is three four feet in the 1378 00:57:54,079 --> 00:57:56,960 air bushes. And you know what? I I I'm 1379 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,799 old enough to know that uh train cars 1380 00:57:58,799 --> 00:58:00,319 didn't used to have graffiti and now 1381 00:58:00,319 --> 00:58:02,079 they all have graffiti. So is that 1382 00:58:02,079 --> 00:58:03,040 something that we're just supposed to 1383 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:04,799 see and look at and not pay attention to 1384 00:58:04,799 --> 00:58:06,880 anymore? I don't I have no idea. No, I'm 1385 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,720 just saying if we put it down, I would 1386 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,000 hope that we 1387 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,359 >> do some weed killer on it or something, 1388 00:58:13,359 --> 00:58:15,760 you know, once in a while to save, you 1389 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,799 know, if it's saving. 1390 00:58:18,799 --> 00:58:21,040 >> But public safety, that's number one. 1391 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:22,319 >> I don't follow along with the parks 1392 00:58:22,319 --> 00:58:23,440 meetings as much as I probably should, 1393 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,119 but the Oclair River Trail, has that 1394 00:58:25,119 --> 00:58:26,559 been a goal that's been around for a 1395 00:58:26,559 --> 00:58:28,079 while, or is where did that one come 1396 00:58:28,079 --> 00:58:32,549 from? 1397 00:58:32,559 --> 00:58:35,839 » I I don't know. the 1398 00:58:35,839 --> 00:58:38,240 it was a you had put forth those three 1399 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:39,520 from the last meeting. That's why 1400 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,599 they're on there and the I it had to 1401 00:58:41,599 --> 00:58:43,280 deal with the trees being in the river 1402 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,319 which is going to be brought back. Um 1403 00:58:46,319 --> 00:58:48,480 they did come and present to parks. We 1404 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:49,680 said that we would work with them and 1405 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,839 they're coming for tourism funds which 1406 00:58:51,839 --> 00:58:53,839 may be a better fit long term as an 1407 00:58:53,839 --> 00:58:55,920 allocation of a portion of tourism to 1408 00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,480 keep the river passable since we have 1409 00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,799 made the investment to have access to 1410 00:59:00,799 --> 00:59:02,559 the river. And that's basically why I 1411 00:59:02,559 --> 00:59:06,000 had brought it up. Access to get to it. 1412 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,079 Yeah, there was difficulty. They spoke I 1413 00:59:08,079 --> 00:59:09,359 think at a parks meeting there was 1414 00:59:09,359 --> 00:59:10,720 difficulty. Louis could probably speak 1415 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:11,200 to that. 1416 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,200 >> Well, there's there's 1417 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,599 it's a little it could be confusing. 1418 00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:17,680 We're not talking about necessarily the 1419 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,079 gravel pathway trail that goes along the 1420 00:59:20,079 --> 00:59:21,359 river. We're talking about the actual 1421 00:59:21,359 --> 00:59:23,440 river, which is a a trail system in 1422 00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,640 itself, um that the county is working on 1423 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,040 trying to make into a much broader trail 1424 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,359 system connected with um Wisconsin 1425 00:59:31,359 --> 00:59:34,480 River. Um we want to make sure that if 1426 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:38,160 we're going to attract tourism to our 1427 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,079 community through that river and 1428 00:59:40,079 --> 00:59:42,240 kayaking and other things that it's 1429 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,240 passable and it's people are going to 1430 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,319 enjoy it and not have to get out and 1431 00:59:46,319 --> 00:59:49,280 carry their kayak through brush. Um, so 1432 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,680 they presented on some ideas about 1433 00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,760 areas. They've already done some things, 1434 00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,000 but some other areas that could um, use 1435 00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,200 some help and some signage as well to 1436 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:00,480 make sure people know where to go 1437 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,160 because there's parts of the river that 1438 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:03,760 where it used to go and now you'll end 1439 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,520 up in a sandbar instead of going in a 1440 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,920 new channel and it's a river. So, it's 1441 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,400 always adjusting. So, um, we did talk 1442 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,160 about not necessarily about levy 1443 01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,079 dollars, but about is there tourism 1444 01:00:14,079 --> 01:00:15,599 dollars or grants we could look at for 1445 01:00:15,599 --> 01:00:18,079 that. But that's I would say if you're 1446 01:00:18,079 --> 01:00:20,799 looking at it in a stance of like public 1447 01:00:20,799 --> 01:00:22,880 system, it's a priority that we keep 1448 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,880 that 1449 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,040 as it continues to develop with the 1450 01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:37,430 county, it's attractive to people. 1451 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:38,799 » Anybody else? 1452 01:00:38,799 --> 01:00:41,440 >> Yeah, go ahead. I just I guess part of 1453 01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,680 one of the notes that I put down is just 1454 01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,079 hoping that we keep in mind if we have 1455 01:00:46,079 --> 01:00:49,839 is it $200,000 that has to come back to 1456 01:00:49,839 --> 01:00:52,720 the general fund or salaries that was in 1457 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:53,359 the tiff 1458 01:00:53,359 --> 01:00:54,559 >> is approximately 1459 01:00:54,559 --> 01:00:57,200 >> approx. Yeah. Right. Approximately and 1460 01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:00,400 to account for the three firefighters 1461 01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,319 then we're going to have to look at the 1462 01:01:02,319 --> 01:01:04,160 overall budget when departments are 1463 01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:05,599 making that budget that we have that 1464 01:01:05,599 --> 01:01:07,520 shortfall that we're going to have to 1465 01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,640 make up. So that has to be I don't know 1466 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,880 a goal or a priority when each 1467 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,119 department does their budget that we 1468 01:01:15,119 --> 01:01:16,400 know that we have to have that 1469 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,480 accomplished somewhere. Does that make 1470 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,079 sense? 1471 01:01:20,079 --> 01:01:22,000 >> I mean the three safer staff are our 1472 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,839 percentage of that which is is about 1473 01:01:23,839 --> 01:01:27,520 68%. Um that will all be general. So it 1474 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,359 will we will account for it in the 1475 01:01:29,359 --> 01:01:30,880 general fund and then when we bring back 1476 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,040 general we'll we will show you if we 1477 01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,160 have a deficit and how much it is. 1478 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:41,119 >> Yes. All of police and fire and EMS are general fund. It's about I don't 1479 01:01:41,119 --> 01:01:50,069 know 50 52% of the general fund. 1480 01:01:50,079 --> 01:01:51,839 » I guess I would just add I mean last 1481 01:01:51,839 --> 01:01:53,359 meeting I think the first priority 1482 01:01:53,359 --> 01:01:55,280 listed was just maintaining staffing 1483 01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,599 levels. Um, I know that wasn't 1484 01:01:57,599 --> 01:02:00,079 necessarily on that list that was in the 1485 01:02:00,079 --> 01:02:02,160 PowerPoint, but I mean that's a big one 1486 01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,480 for us is just what can we do to just 1487 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,240 maintain our current staffing levels. We 1488 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,000 hear, you know, with some of the 1489 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,559 constraints we have and other um, you 1490 01:02:10,559 --> 01:02:13,200 know, revenue, you know, we can't just 1491 01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:14,720 say, "Oh, I want to add two people, so 1492 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:16,720 we're going to add $200,000 to the levy 1493 01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,680 and, you know, poof, we have it." So, 1494 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,280 you know, a lot of this is trying to be 1495 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:22,880 figure out how can we more be more 1496 01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,200 strategic with the monies we have and 1497 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:26,640 make sure we at least can keep the 1498 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,640 people we have currently. 1499 01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,640 >> So, 1500 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:31,760 good point. 1501 01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,760 >> Yeah, I think that was one of the 1502 01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,240 priorities that I had mentioned that we 1503 01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:47,750 maintain. 1504 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:48,720 Go ahead. 1505 01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:49,440 >> Comment. 1506 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:53,040 >> No, I just wonder. Yeah. No. No. Okay. 1507 01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,920 >> All right. Moving on. 1508 01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,480 >> Okay. Seven. 1509 01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,680 >> Okay. So, it's by this being in the 1510 01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,599 budget or excuse me, in the on the 1511 01:03:03,599 --> 01:03:05,280 agenda tonight, it looks like and 1512 01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,040 there's some been some phone calls on 1513 01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:08,480 this is our priority and this is our 1514 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,640 wish list and this is what we want. I 1515 01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,480 can assure you that that's not why this 1516 01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,400 why these pay adjustments on here. These 1517 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,160 are things we just have to work on. We 1518 01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,000 have to we have to know what these are 1519 01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,079 before these workshops are done. I can 1520 01:03:20,079 --> 01:03:21,280 tell you right now the trustee 1521 01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,160 compensation for 2729 is a question we 1522 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,079 need to ask because we have an election 1523 01:03:26,079 --> 01:03:28,480 coming up again. We'll have u a 1524 01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,400 president and three trustees. We have to 1525 01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:31,839 establish what are the what are the 1526 01:03:31,839 --> 01:03:33,599 rates going to be if they're if they're 1527 01:03:33,599 --> 01:03:35,920 going to even change at all because the 1528 01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:37,359 people taking out papers need to know 1529 01:03:37,359 --> 01:03:39,359 what they're going to make. I I can tell 1530 01:03:39,359 --> 01:03:40,880 you without talking to anybody on this 1531 01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,319 board, I don't believe they're going to 1532 01:03:42,319 --> 01:03:45,200 change. But unless unless there's a 1533 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:46,640 group that wants to change it, they were 1534 01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:48,880 changed eight, nine, 10 years ago, um 1535 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:50,079 I'm actually the one that led the 1536 01:03:50,079 --> 01:03:52,079 charge. They weren't changed for 24 1537 01:03:52,079 --> 01:03:56,000 years prior, I believe. And uh I believe 1538 01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,000 they're fine right now with the 1539 01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,400 municipalities. So, I think the the 1540 01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,920 trustees are that's a fair salary to uh 1541 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,000 the county board and to other trustees 1542 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,400 or other supervisors out there. uh the 1543 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,760 president is actually low. Um but it it 1544 01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,200 certainly doesn't concern me and I don't 1545 01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:14,640 think anyone running for president would 1546 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:16,880 be concerned at all. So I I could tell 1547 01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:18,240 you right now I think we can leave that 1548 01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,799 one right off the table. Uh but you know 1549 01:04:20,799 --> 01:04:23,599 several people have brought it up and uh 1550 01:04:23,599 --> 01:04:26,880 I'm uh a little 1551 01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:28,720 you know it's just it's amazing how some 1552 01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:30,240 of this stuff can just snowball into 1553 01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,160 stuff when it's nothing at all. It's 1554 01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:33,599 just it's a question that has to be 1555 01:04:33,599 --> 01:04:35,920 asked. It's all we have to do. Go ahead 1556 01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:36,319 Barb. 1557 01:04:36,319 --> 01:04:37,920 >> Yeah. Well, I agree that 1558 01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,000 >> unless we want to cut it in half. 1559 01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:41,359 >> We want to cut in half. We'll cut it in 1560 01:04:41,359 --> 01:04:42,000 half. 1561 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:43,680 >> I just want to read that whole agenda 1562 01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,440 item because I there's that we move to 1563 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,440 agenda item number seven and then read 1564 01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:48,559 all those. 1565 01:04:48,559 --> 01:04:50,720 >> Sure. Seven. Discussion and or action on 1566 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:52,880 beginning review and discussion of 2027 1567 01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:56,559 budget. Are we 1568 01:04:56,559 --> 01:04:58,799 >> I was going to do the subsets because it 1569 01:04:58,799 --> 01:05:00,319 would be all all three. 1570 01:05:00,319 --> 01:05:02,880 >> Yeah. Go ahead. 1571 01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:04,480 It's the pay plan adjustment and the 1572 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,880 2027 wage increases, the health 1573 01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:08,640 benefits, and the direct primary care 1574 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,520 update, trustee compensation for the 1575 01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,480 2027 2029 term and capital improvement 1576 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:15,599 plan. 1577 01:05:15,599 --> 01:05:19,520 >> I should right. So, okay. So, there we 1578 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,359 are. We're on we're it's open for 1579 01:05:21,359 --> 01:05:24,240 discussion. 1580 01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,160 >> So, yeah. Go ahead. 1581 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:27,839 >> I'm kind of leading off what you said. 1582 01:05:27,839 --> 01:05:31,200 You know, I know this isn't going to be the 1583 01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:32,960 popular opinion. I'm not going to 1584 01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:34,240 probably be well-liked for saying it, 1585 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,039 but I think we're doing this backwards. 1586 01:05:37,039 --> 01:05:40,880 Um, how do we assign raises to positions 1587 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,119 or cola increases when we don't even 1588 01:05:43,119 --> 01:05:44,480 know if there's money in the budget to 1589 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,440 do it? Um I I feel like we should be 1590 01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:49,119 starting from the other side with 1591 01:05:49,119 --> 01:05:51,280 revenue, mandated cost, operational 1592 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:55,119 needs, services, um capital, those types 1593 01:05:55,119 --> 01:05:56,960 of things, and then start looking at pay 1594 01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,280 for employees, for board members, for 1595 01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:00,799 committees and commissions and all those 1596 01:06:00,799 --> 01:06:03,520 different things. I personally feel it 1597 01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:07,920 gives a bad look to the fact that our first 1598 01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:09,520 budget meeting, our number one priority 1599 01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,559 is who gets paid what. Um I think it 1600 01:06:12,559 --> 01:06:14,720 looks in my opinion, it looks backwards. 1601 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,319 We have great staff. We want to keep our 1602 01:06:16,319 --> 01:06:17,599 staff. Like Mike said, it's really 1603 01:06:17,599 --> 01:06:19,839 important to keep the people we have, 1604 01:06:19,839 --> 01:06:22,480 but there may not be money in the budget 1605 01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,520 for raises. And until we look at those 1606 01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,200 mandated costs, those things that we 1607 01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:30,000 have to have, the state required things, 1608 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:31,520 we don't know what's there to give. And 1609 01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:32,960 I think if we are going to talk about 1610 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,200 raises and, you know, get people's hopes 1611 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:36,799 up for raises, but then we do the budget 1612 01:06:36,799 --> 01:06:38,559 and find out, oh crap, we can't afford 1613 01:06:38,559 --> 01:06:41,039 that, and then we're taking it back. Um, 1614 01:06:41,039 --> 01:06:45,760 so from a morale standpoint too, I just think it's 1615 01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:48,400 incorrect of us to to do it in this 1616 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,559 order. Um, I realize that's not going to 1617 01:06:50,559 --> 01:06:52,240 change anything for tonight or for this 1618 01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,720 year, but I just I think we're doing it 1619 01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:56,880 backwards. 1620 01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:00,240 >> Okay. Anybody else? 1621 01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,880 >> Well, I think we have to 1622 01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:06,870 figure out what we're 1623 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:10,160 maybe looking at. I mean, yes, it it you 1624 01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:15,680 know what is the Well, they showed us on one 1625 01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,799 of the slides the cost of living and 1626 01:07:18,799 --> 01:07:21,440 such and uh 1627 01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:25,039 I don't know, it's kind of a 1628 01:07:25,039 --> 01:07:26,960 >> Yeah, it's important, but I just, you 1629 01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:28,319 know, if we talk about tonight, hey, 1630 01:07:28,319 --> 01:07:30,240 we're going to look at 3% COLA raises 1631 01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:31,839 for everybody, and then at the end of 1632 01:07:31,839 --> 01:07:33,280 the budget meetings, we realize, oh 1633 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:34,559 crap, we're cutting things because we 1634 01:07:34,559 --> 01:07:35,839 can't afford everything that's on the 1635 01:07:35,839 --> 01:07:38,480 list, is I would hate to see us see us 1636 01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,640 walk it back or take it back. Um because 1637 01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:44,319 we're talking about money that we don't 1638 01:07:44,319 --> 01:07:45,920 know either. 1639 01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:49,200 >> So you're talking about possibly talking 1640 01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:52,079 on this subject when it gets closer to 1641 01:07:52,079 --> 01:07:52,640 the 1642 01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:54,240 >> a little bit further down the line than 1643 01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:54,640 just 1644 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:56,720 >> where we're looking at what monies do we 1645 01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:59,839 have to work with rather than 1646 01:07:59,839 --> 01:08:02,480 >> I had that on my list as well too. 1647 01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:03,760 >> I had a couple people I've had a few 1648 01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:04,880 people reach out. I actually spent an 1649 01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:06,880 hour on the phone with someone today. Um 1650 01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,200 and and that those few people have have 1651 01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:10,720 shared that expression as well. It just 1652 01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:12,880 seems like our first priority is let's 1653 01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:14,400 get all paid and let's all get raises 1654 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,440 and what is the board going to make and I know that that's not the reason 1655 01:08:17,440 --> 01:08:19,759 it's done in this way. Um but again, 1656 01:08:19,759 --> 01:08:22,239 perception is reality and I just think 1657 01:08:22,239 --> 01:08:26,319 it puts the wrong wrong look on it. 1658 01:08:26,319 --> 01:08:28,880 >> Well, I guess I I would like kind of an 1659 01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,600 update at this point on where our health 1660 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:35,279 insurance and such is going if that's 1661 01:08:35,279 --> 01:08:39,279 benefits. I mean, are we do we know 1662 01:08:39,279 --> 01:08:41,839 what um have they given us any warning 1663 01:08:41,839 --> 01:08:43,359 that they're going to increase our 1664 01:08:43,359 --> 01:08:44,480 premiums or 1665 01:08:44,480 --> 01:08:47,759 >> so as part of the RFC? Well, maybe we'll 1666 01:08:47,759 --> 01:08:49,120 do health insurance first and then we 1667 01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,080 could cycle back to wages. But we do 1668 01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:53,839 have placeholders. You know, I think 1669 01:08:53,839 --> 01:08:55,279 that this the reason we have this 1670 01:08:55,279 --> 01:08:57,600 conversation now is because we we put 1671 01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,600 placeholders in the budget as as we're 1672 01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:02,560 developing it through this process and 1673 01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,040 we had put a 10% increase in the in the 1674 01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:06,880 premium cost. Again, our health 1675 01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:08,400 insurance is provided through a 1676 01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:10,560 consortium. So, it is not just us. It's 1677 01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,960 a series of municipalities, businesses, 1678 01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,679 and organizations that come together in 1679 01:09:15,679 --> 01:09:18,159 order not to have the dramatic swings in 1680 01:09:18,159 --> 01:09:20,319 healthcare. And then this past year we 1681 01:09:20,319 --> 01:09:23,679 went to a direct primary care provider 1682 01:09:23,679 --> 01:09:26,239 through our consortium. They cover a 1683 01:09:26,239 --> 01:09:27,839 percentage of that direct primary 1684 01:09:27,839 --> 01:09:30,719 provider and then the village split the 1685 01:09:30,719 --> 01:09:33,359 cost on the rest in order to encourage 1686 01:09:33,359 --> 01:09:35,359 people to go there instead of to go to 1687 01:09:35,359 --> 01:09:38,400 urgent care or to um go back to the 1688 01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:40,400 clinic system. It was a way to have 1689 01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:43,120 better access to health care. And since 1690 01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:46,239 it's the per month cost to take down 1691 01:09:46,239 --> 01:09:49,440 that, we have shown that this year that 1692 01:09:49,440 --> 01:09:51,920 we've done that. Um, and we've had very 1693 01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,159 positive response on the direct primary 1694 01:09:54,159 --> 01:09:56,480 care provider. The other piece that that 1695 01:09:56,480 --> 01:09:58,159 helps with is that if we ever need to 1696 01:09:58,159 --> 01:10:00,320 leave the consortium, which we can, it 1697 01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,480 was a three-year buy in at the 1698 01:10:02,480 --> 01:10:04,239 beginning, which we are through that 1699 01:10:04,239 --> 01:10:06,960 point in time. It takes down those 1700 01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,080 medical care visits to reflect better if 1701 01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,640 we were a smaller group going out on our 1702 01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,920 own. Um but at this moment Spectrum has 1703 01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:17,760 said and these are very preliminary 1704 01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,159 numbers that they have gotten but they 1705 01:10:20,159 --> 01:10:23,280 are estimating around a 15% increase. 1706 01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,280 Now last year they told us 20 and we 1707 01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:28,159 came in at neg5. So those are very 1708 01:10:28,159 --> 01:10:31,840 preliminary. But what we will do because 1709 01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,480 that it came in at that 15 is as an 1710 01:10:34,480 --> 01:10:38,000 initial number is we'll do a form fire. 1711 01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,159 Everyone here probably has healthcare 1712 01:10:40,159 --> 01:10:42,400 form fire is just the way that systems 1713 01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:44,480 collect that data in order to price what 1714 01:10:44,480 --> 01:10:47,760 a group is. So we will we'll go back 1715 01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,760 through that. We did it last year and we 1716 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:51,679 will do it again this year. So if we do 1717 01:10:51,679 --> 01:10:53,600 have to go out on our own and leave the 1718 01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,199 consortium, we know what we're looking 1719 01:10:55,199 --> 01:10:58,800 at for pricing. 1720 01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,760 But we have a 10% if it would end up at 1721 01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:03,920 15 right now. The way that we're 1722 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,320 developing the budget is at a a 10% 1723 01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:10,080 premium cost increase in cost. 1724 01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,159 the piece on the wages and I I do break 1725 01:11:12,159 --> 01:11:15,280 this apart in the RFC because 1726 01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:19,360 the staff wages are and and 1727 01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,280 all of our wages are kind of broken into 1728 01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:23,760 like a a three-part approval process. 1729 01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,159 First is that pay plan and matrix that 1730 01:11:26,159 --> 01:11:27,760 we've put together and part of our 1731 01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,000 policy is that we'll develop a pay plan 1732 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,560 and matrix. We would we revisit that 1733 01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:34,719 every year and at some point if we feel 1734 01:11:34,719 --> 01:11:37,600 like we're off kilter with everyone else 1735 01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:39,440 if we feel we're really you know we're 1736 01:11:39,440 --> 01:11:41,840 getting low in in the market that we 1737 01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:43,679 would go back out and have that that pay 1738 01:11:43,679 --> 01:11:47,120 matrix looked again. So 2023 is when we 1739 01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:50,080 had that approved our our policies say 1740 01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:53,760 every 5 years um we have the potential 1741 01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,480 to go back out if we feel like we we are 1742 01:11:56,480 --> 01:12:01,520 offkilter. So, we're still within that five-year window, but the first 1743 01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:03,120 piece of that is what do we want to add 1744 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,400 to that matrix to bring up those the 1745 01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,520 minimum, the midpoint, and the maximum 1746 01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:10,800 to make sure that we're staying 1747 01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:12,239 competitive. So, when we're bringing 1748 01:12:12,239 --> 01:12:15,360 people on, we we know that we're 1749 01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:16,960 bringing them on at some place that's 1750 01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:18,960 within the market. 1751 01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:20,800 Then, we talk about the staff increases. 1752 01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:24,239 So, changing the the matrix doesn't 1753 01:12:24,239 --> 01:12:27,199 change the annual wage. So then when we 1754 01:12:27,199 --> 01:12:29,679 talk about staff increases, um I do have 1755 01:12:29,679 --> 01:12:31,920 in the RFC that we have a 3% 1756 01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:33,440 placeholder. Again, we need a 1757 01:12:33,440 --> 01:12:35,920 placeholder in order to kind of tell you 1758 01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,480 how how is the budget coming together. 1759 01:12:38,480 --> 01:12:40,159 Are we are we meeting what our 1760 01:12:40,159 --> 01:12:42,480 priorities are that we've put forth as a 1761 01:12:42,480 --> 01:12:45,360 board? And then the last piece is that 1762 01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:49,280 merit and market. So we have staff, you 1763 01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,520 know, we we want to keep staff. Staff is 1764 01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:55,280 who provide the services, right, that we're offering to the community. 1765 01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,440 That's every everything happens in the 1766 01:12:57,440 --> 01:12:59,440 village because of the staff putting 1767 01:12:59,440 --> 01:13:02,719 forth, you know, doing those jobs. So, 1768 01:13:02,719 --> 01:13:04,560 if we feel like we need to move somebody 1769 01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:08,560 up to hire uh to get them to that 100% 1770 01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:10,000 because they're showing those skills and 1771 01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,159 they're progressing in in their jobs, 1772 01:13:12,159 --> 01:13:14,159 that's how we move them slightly higher 1773 01:13:14,159 --> 01:13:17,280 because the 3% just moves everyone up to 1774 01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:18,239 make sure that we're staying 1775 01:13:18,239 --> 01:13:21,280 competitive. And then so we to get them 1776 01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:25,440 up to market and then merit um we have 1777 01:13:25,440 --> 01:13:28,159 in both cases we've put together a sheet 1778 01:13:28,159 --> 01:13:30,239 in which department heads fill that out 1779 01:13:30,239 --> 01:13:33,440 and after we get to market you know 1780 01:13:33,440 --> 01:13:35,760 progressing in merit showing that that 1781 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:39,920 historical knowledge is how beneficial 1782 01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,880 that is to the to the village and 1783 01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:45,440 providing those services that longevity 1784 01:13:45,440 --> 01:13:47,600 that commitment the loyalty to the 1785 01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,070 village 1786 01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,480 So wages are really it's a three-part 1787 01:13:52,480 --> 01:13:54,719 conversation. It's not just a that one 1788 01:13:54,719 --> 01:13:59,430 percentage conversation. 1789 01:13:59,440 --> 01:14:00,159 » Go ahead, please. 1790 01:14:00,159 --> 01:14:03,280 >> I guess 1791 01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,120 um little bit of a point of order. I 1792 01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:08,000 guess I just want to so we do have three 1793 01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:09,440 citizen members here, part of the 1794 01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:12,159 finance committee, finance and HR. Um, 1795 01:14:12,159 --> 01:14:14,239 and there is discussion in here about 1796 01:14:14,239 --> 01:14:17,120 them making recommendations and us 1797 01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:18,800 agreeing with those recommendations. I 1798 01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:20,560 guess how do we want to do that? Because 1799 01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:25,920 I want to make sure that their their um 1800 01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:27,760 their opportunity to be a part of this 1801 01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:29,840 is just as important as ours. And I feel 1802 01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:31,520 like we're doing a lot of board talk, 1803 01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,520 but um they haven't really had a chance 1804 01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:37,440 to talk about um from their perspective. 1805 01:14:37,440 --> 01:14:39,440 So I think I'd like to hear a little bit 1806 01:14:39,440 --> 01:14:41,440 from 1807 01:14:41,440 --> 01:14:45,120 >> committee on these issues 1808 01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:48,000 >> and then we can kind of 1809 01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:49,520 I don't know I guess I don't know how 1810 01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:52,800 that gets mixed in from the board side. 1811 01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,920 >> Yeah. I I have just a couple of comments 1812 01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,080 as we're talking about salary. I don't 1813 01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:02,159 have just some questions. Um 1814 01:15:02,159 --> 01:15:05,920 you mentioned the salary structure um 1815 01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,320 minimum control point or midpoint and 1816 01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:11,280 maximum. I think it would be helpful um 1817 01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:14,719 if we knew maybe how many the number of 1818 01:15:14,719 --> 01:15:17,600 employees that are at the below the 1819 01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:19,840 midpoint and the maximum. Um I think 1820 01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:21,679 that would be helpful to know where or 1821 01:15:21,679 --> 01:15:23,440 the number of employees that are at the 1822 01:15:23,440 --> 01:15:25,920 various ranges within those. I think it 1823 01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,320 would be helpful to know the compression 1824 01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,920 between supervisors and employees. 1825 01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:35,360 Um I think it would be helpful to know 1826 01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,480 you gave some um examples of how that 1827 01:15:38,480 --> 01:15:40,880 15,000 in merit has been used. I think 1828 01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:42,880 it'd be helpful to know a little bit 1829 01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:44,800 more maybe some examples of how that 1830 01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:48,159 merit has been used. Um and then I think 1831 01:15:48,159 --> 01:15:50,400 it would also be helpful to know if you 1832 01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:53,840 had said you put um a 3% placeholder in 1833 01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:55,120 the budget. I think it'd be helpful to 1834 01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:58,800 know the total cost of maybe every 1% 1835 01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:02,960 change in salary. So, what is every 1% 1836 01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:05,199 the total all-in cost of that? And I'm 1837 01:16:05,199 --> 01:16:07,679 talking salary and then what are the 1838 01:16:07,679 --> 01:16:10,000 benefits related to that? So, those are 1839 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:11,040 some things that I think would be 1840 01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,840 helpful for me to know um in order to 1841 01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:16,800 make a more informed um recommendation 1842 01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:17,760 to the board. 1843 01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:18,400 >> Great request. 1844 01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:19,199 >> Good. Very good point. 1845 01:16:19,199 --> 01:16:20,400 >> Very, very good. 1846 01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:22,719 >> Yep. 1847 01:16:22,719 --> 01:16:26,800 Do we give raises every year? 1848 01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,520 >> Are you talking trustees, committees, or 1849 01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:30,080 staff? 1850 01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:32,000 >> Staff. Just staff. Only staff. Yeah. 1851 01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:35,280 >> So, was it 2024 they had 3%. Is that 1852 01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:36,400 right? 1853 01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:41,120 >> And then 2025 was 3% plus the 15,000 1854 01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:46,320 merit and then 2026 was 3% and a pay 1855 01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,480 grid increase. Is that right? the last 1856 01:16:48,480 --> 01:16:49,120 three years 1857 01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,840 >> the if the grid increases it doesn't it 1858 01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:55,120 doesn't equal any salary change. So it's 1859 01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:59,360 we do the merit and market and and the 1860 01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:02,239 cola. So the 15 is not divided equally 1861 01:17:02,239 --> 01:17:04,000 across the board. It's it's put forth 1862 01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,800 through the recommendations. So I last 1863 01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,440 year we had a three. I think the year 1864 01:17:09,440 --> 01:17:11,360 before that we had a three. I couldn't 1865 01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:12,960 tell you because I' I've been here three 1866 01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:14,640 years. I couldn't tell you if there's 1867 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,120 when was the last time that there wasn't 1868 01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,280 a cost of living adjustment. 1869 01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:22,719 >> I think we froze it from 2020 to 2023. I 1870 01:17:22,719 --> 01:17:25,040 think that was frozen. 1871 01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:26,800 >> One year there was 1872 01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,280 >> there was an increase but not a cost of 1873 01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:29,760 living. 1874 01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:31,920 >> Right. Correct. 1875 01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:32,800 >> Along those lines 1876 01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:33,760 >> because they were done at two different 1877 01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:35,679 times and it was confusing. 1878 01:17:35,679 --> 01:17:37,280 >> It it really Right. I mean it was it was 1879 01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,120 confusing. It was confusing for me as a 1880 01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,199 board member for sure that I I didn't 1881 01:17:41,199 --> 01:17:43,280 quite understand what was happening and 1882 01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:44,719 uh I think if we could have had our hand 1883 01:17:44,719 --> 01:17:46,239 around it could looked at a little bit 1884 01:17:46,239 --> 01:17:47,440 differently but yeah. 1885 01:17:47,440 --> 01:17:48,880 >> Was it like COVID dollars or what do you 1886 01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:50,000 mean you gave 1887 01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:51,520 >> No, it was a cost of living raise 1888 01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,280 separately than a than a raise 1889 01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:54,640 >> at different times of the year even. 1890 01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,199 >> Uh yeah, a couple months. Yeah, 1891 01:17:57,199 --> 01:17:58,640 >> it was 1892 01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:00,400 >> well it caught it caught me personally 1893 01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,560 off work off guard because I kind of 1894 01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:03,600 thought, well, wait a minute, we just 1895 01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:06,000 gave a raise and and in my world it's a 1896 01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,080 raise. It's It's not a cost. Well, wait 1897 01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:09,199 a minute. That doesn't take care of the 1898 01:18:09,199 --> 01:18:10,719 cost of living. Well, wait a minute. A 1899 01:18:10,719 --> 01:18:13,280 raise for me is a raise. That's just 1900 01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,040 what my whatever I've worked in. That's 1901 01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:16,960 just what I did. So, that just caught me 1902 01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:18,800 a little bit off guard here. So, and 1903 01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:21,600 sometimes it was a 3 plus two, a 3+ one. 1904 01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:23,760 I mean, it was it was kind of different. 1905 01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:26,000 And I know years back back years, I 1906 01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,000 think there was even some freezes, 1907 01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,719 >> but I'm I'm talking 15 20 years ago, 1908 01:18:30,719 --> 01:18:31,360 maybe. 1909 01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:32,239 >> Not even that far. 1910 01:18:32,239 --> 01:18:33,440 >> Yeah. Not even that far because I've 1911 01:18:33,440 --> 01:18:34,400 been on here now. 1912 01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,640 >> Michael was here. I was here. Yeah. Um 1913 01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:38,480 there was multiple years Jessica was 1914 01:18:38,480 --> 01:18:39,040 here. 1915 01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:39,360 >> Yeah. 1916 01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:40,400 >> That we were frozen. 1917 01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:41,199 >> Yeah. 1918 01:18:41,199 --> 01:18:42,480 >> Pay decrease too, 1919 01:18:42,480 --> 01:18:44,000 >> right? Me trying to dig out those 1920 01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:45,280 numbers. It was really hard to try and 1921 01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:47,120 figure that out. 1922 01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:48,960 >> Along those lines with all the insurance 1923 01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,760 premium increases, when's does do the 1924 01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:53,840 employees share in that ever or does the 1925 01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:55,840 village absorb all of the increase every 1926 01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:56,480 year? 1927 01:18:56,480 --> 01:18:58,400 >> Just real quick, let's just make sure we 1928 01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:00,320 answer her that that'll happen. 1929 01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:01,760 >> Yes. We'll bring that back. 1930 01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:03,679 >> Okay. Go ahead. 1931 01:19:03,679 --> 01:19:05,120 >> Just Yeah. wondering is there is it 1932 01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:07,199 always the village always incorporates 1933 01:19:07,199 --> 01:19:08,960 the entire increase or that we passed on 1934 01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:10,880 to employees and if so like how much and 1935 01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:11,360 when 1936 01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:13,760 >> so that's a has always been part of the 1937 01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:15,600 board conversation when we have found 1938 01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:18,400 whatever that final number is I believe 1939 01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:21,360 the past two years they have the village 1940 01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:23,120 has absorbed those costs we do have a 1941 01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:28,239 split we do have an 8515 split um it can 1942 01:19:28,239 --> 01:19:30,560 be less if you do a wellness benefit but 1943 01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:32,960 you you have to 1944 01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:34,560 um not everyone one participates in the 1945 01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:37,040 wellness benefit then it those could be 1946 01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:40,960 changed to a 9010 but that's always a 1947 01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:43,760 conversation when we have that final 1948 01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:45,520 number and it's been the board's 1949 01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:47,679 determination I think the past two years 1950 01:19:47,679 --> 01:19:50,320 that that cost has been absorbed 1951 01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:54,960 >> and and dental is 100% right 1952 01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,280 no not anymore it used to be 1953 01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:58,480 >> it was a long time ago 1954 01:19:58,480 --> 01:20:00,560 >> was it okay 1955 01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:02,159 >> Daniel not to put you on the spot I know 1956 01:20:02,159 --> 01:20:04,960 this is your very second meeting um with 1957 01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,600 us. But any thoughts from you? Uh, I 1958 01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:09,520 think chairman brought up the point that 1959 01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:11,360 I was thinking about because I've been 1960 01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:14,239 involved in other municipalities and 1961 01:20:14,239 --> 01:20:15,760 they would give them a cost of living 1962 01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,960 raise and then add on the raise and I'm 1963 01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:20,719 like, hold on then that's even more than 1964 01:20:20,719 --> 01:20:21,679 what they're saying because you're 1965 01:20:21,679 --> 01:20:24,239 compounding for the cost of living and 1966 01:20:24,239 --> 01:20:26,159 I'm like so all a sudden it's three, you 1967 01:20:26,159 --> 01:20:30,320 know, it's, you know, more than 3%. And 1968 01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:31,760 I think that's that kind of misleading 1969 01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:34,320 the taxpayer like, oh, you gave him 3%. 1970 01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:35,679 No, we didn't. we really gave him almost 1971 01:20:35,679 --> 01:20:38,480 4% with everything. So, I'm glad to hear 1972 01:20:38,480 --> 01:20:41,520 that that at least has been frozen here 1973 01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:42,880 the last few years. 1974 01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:46,080 >> The question on the midpoint or the uh 1975 01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:48,719 salary changes is that would they also 1976 01:20:48,719 --> 01:20:50,880 be included with pay raise too or is 1977 01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,280 that just a one time? 1978 01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,800 >> So, our again our you don't move a step 1979 01:20:56,800 --> 01:21:00,000 in our matrix. Our matrix is if you add 1980 01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,320 a 3% it does bring it all up but that 1981 01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:04,000 doesn't mean you automatically move into 1982 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:07,120 the matrix right you would when we set 1983 01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:09,840 aside the merit and market that's not 1984 01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:12,480 allocated at the same percentage across 1985 01:21:12,480 --> 01:21:14,320 the way we might say to someone that's 1986 01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:16,400 we see is lower that needs to get to 1987 01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,719 that midpoint a department head would 1988 01:21:18,719 --> 01:21:20,159 put that forth and you see that 1989 01:21:20,159 --> 01:21:23,199 separately so I think a lot of uh pay 1990 01:21:23,199 --> 01:21:25,360 matrix have it so exactly what you're 1991 01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:28,400 saying there's a a 3% cola increase and 1992 01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:30,080 you move a step on the scale. We don't 1993 01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,239 move a step on the scale. 1994 01:21:32,239 --> 01:21:33,600 >> We just move the scale. 1995 01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:35,280 >> We move the scale. But one of the 1996 01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:36,719 reasons we move the scale is if the 1997 01:21:36,719 --> 01:21:39,760 scale stayed stagnant and someone came 1998 01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:42,080 in, then they're already behind everyone 1999 01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:43,520 else. That's why the scale has to 2000 01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:47,040 continue to grow with how wages grow. 2001 01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:50,320 And I just had a suggestion on if you if 2002 01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:55,120 it's possible to in these to help the uh 2003 01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:58,639 taxpayer understand the increases is 2004 01:21:58,639 --> 01:22:01,760 that maybe I take the average 2005 01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:06,560 uh village employee salary number and 2006 01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:09,520 add in the in the increase and like the 2007 01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:13,920 3% so everyone says oh look they're it's 2008 01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:16,400 the average is 2009 01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:20,480 3% of $50,000 is 2010 01:22:20,480 --> 01:22:23,199 know $1,500. 2011 01:22:23,199 --> 01:22:24,639 >> I mean, you just see those percents, 2012 01:22:24,639 --> 01:22:26,080 you're like, "Well, hold on. What does 2013 01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:32,470 that all really mean?" 2014 01:22:32,480 --> 01:22:34,480 » What would be approximately the average 2015 01:22:34,480 --> 01:22:36,239 salary? 2016 01:22:36,239 --> 01:22:38,000 >> No idea. We'd have to look at it. 2017 01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:39,920 >> We'd have to look. We can bring that 2018 01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:42,800 back though. Where where are we at total 2019 01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,360 employees not having safer and mountain 2020 01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:46,560 bay metro in? 2021 01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:47,199 >> Correct. 2022 01:22:47,199 --> 01:22:49,440 >> 40 and that includes part-time not 2023 01:22:49,440 --> 01:22:50,960 seasonals. 2024 01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:54,480 >> 40 40 employees that includes part time. 2025 01:22:54,480 --> 01:22:56,400 >> Includes part-time but not season. 2026 01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:58,159 >> We have currently you're talking about 2027 01:22:58,159 --> 01:22:59,440 two part-time administration 2028 01:22:59,440 --> 01:23:01,679 >> and we and and Scott and one. 2029 01:23:01,679 --> 01:23:02,560 >> Oh yeah, Scott too. 2030 01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:05,840 >> Yeah. Okay. All right. Yeah. Instead of 2031 01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,480 a full-time um administrative uh 2032 01:23:08,480 --> 01:23:11,280 assistant, we now have two part-times 2033 01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:13,600 that are more flex and they they kind of 2034 01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:14,960 work out the schedule better. I think it 2035 01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:16,159 works better, 2036 01:23:16,159 --> 01:23:17,440 >> right? 2037 01:23:17,440 --> 01:23:20,159 >> Yet. No, not yet. It's pretty new. It's 2038 01:23:20,159 --> 01:23:20,960 pretty new right now. 2039 01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:21,920 >> Losing another one. 2040 01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,880 >> Oh, okay. Well, 2041 01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:26,560 >> you just get the kinks worked out and 2042 01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:27,920 then 2043 01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:30,239 >> a loop. 2044 01:23:30,239 --> 01:23:31,760 >> Different opportunities come along to 2045 01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:32,000 people. 2046 01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:33,760 >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, if they're good 2047 01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:36,000 employees, they should be being hunted 2048 01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,400 down. That's what I do. 2049 01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,320 >> So, I I guess that that's a point, too. 2050 01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,880 I mean, I know I have two two out of our 2051 01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:45,040 eight uh street guys that have applied 2052 01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:46,639 to go work for a neighboring community 2053 01:23:46,639 --> 01:23:50,320 that's looking for a person. So I mean 2054 01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,639 that that's where some of this stuff 2055 01:23:52,639 --> 01:23:55,199 does get a little bit of it is the 2056 01:23:55,199 --> 01:23:56,800 priority of maintaining and keeping our 2057 01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:59,520 people you know like we can't stay 2058 01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:02,000 behind because if we stay behind to 2059 01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,960 Mark's point people are contacting our 2060 01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:07,280 guys they are saying hey we got an 2061 01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:08,560 opening over here do you want to come 2062 01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:11,600 work for us and now we're training and 2063 01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:13,840 trying to learn how to do things and our 2064 01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:15,440 service level isn't going to be what it 2065 01:24:15,440 --> 01:24:18,400 is it's going to go backwards. 2066 01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:18,880 Um, 2067 01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:22,080 >> can you mean the municipality? 2068 01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:23,440 >> You can see who's hiring right now. 2069 01:24:23,440 --> 01:24:25,679 >> What? 2070 01:24:25,679 --> 01:24:27,280 >> You can see who's hiring. It's It's not 2071 01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:28,400 a long drive from here. 2072 01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:29,679 >> Okay. 2073 01:24:29,679 --> 01:24:33,600 >> Well, I mean, you know, I'm It's 2074 01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:35,679 >> If if I was a neighboring uh community, 2075 01:24:35,679 --> 01:24:37,040 I'd be coming after our staff. 2076 01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:38,719 Absolutely. So, 2077 01:24:38,719 --> 01:24:39,360 >> staff. 2078 01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,840 >> Yep. I'm I'm used to in my business, I'm 2079 01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:43,760 used to a lot of ter That's just the way 2080 01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:45,440 it is. I don't 2081 01:24:45,440 --> 01:24:45,840 >> I think 2082 01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:47,679 >> sometime it's hard to deal with it, but 2083 01:24:47,679 --> 01:24:49,840 it's also a compliment. So 2084 01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,159 >> I think the the part that's tripping me 2085 01:24:52,159 --> 01:24:54,159 up here is the priorities. You know, 2086 01:24:54,159 --> 01:24:55,840 nothing is listed about staff retention, 2087 01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:57,120 right? We're talking about a robotic 2088 01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:59,360 lawnmower because of wages, right? Like 2089 01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:02,000 we want to reallocate people's time. 2090 01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:04,560 Let's put that. Don't put like if I saw 2091 01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:07,360 this as a just as a community member 2092 01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:09,120 like, oh, the the priority of our 2093 01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:11,360 village is to buy a robotic lawnmower. I 2094 01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:12,880 would be like, seems like an odd 2095 01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:14,159 priority to me as we're sitting here 2096 01:25:14,159 --> 01:25:15,360 talking about retention and losing 2097 01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:17,120 people. So, it doesn't feel like those 2098 01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:18,639 really are our priorities. And so, I 2099 01:25:18,639 --> 01:25:20,159 guess I would if we're going to post 2100 01:25:20,159 --> 01:25:22,639 this on the website, like I would rather 2101 01:25:22,639 --> 01:25:24,719 it be worded differently. I don't I just 2102 01:25:24,719 --> 01:25:26,080 feel like a robotic and even in the 2103 01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:27,760 minutes or in our last packet, it was 2104 01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:30,560 two robotic lawnmowers, right? And so, I 2105 01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:32,239 just feel like that's not really maybe 2106 01:25:32,239 --> 01:25:33,679 one of our priorities. Like, we clearly 2107 01:25:33,679 --> 01:25:35,440 have a bigger priority here, which is 2108 01:25:35,440 --> 01:25:37,920 staff retention, wages, which is a big 2109 01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:39,199 part of what we're going to decide here, 2110 01:25:39,199 --> 01:25:41,199 right? Human capital is huge. So, I 2111 01:25:41,199 --> 01:25:42,639 guess that seems like an odd priority to 2112 01:25:42,639 --> 01:25:44,719 me and maybe I'm sure cuz I have like a 2113 01:25:44,719 --> 01:25:46,159 robotic lawnmower. That's a that's a 2114 01:25:46,159 --> 01:25:48,080 priority here. Um, so I guess I would 2115 01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:50,639 like to see that as like what's the real 2116 01:25:50,639 --> 01:25:52,000 reason behind the robotic lawn mower, 2117 01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:53,520 right? It's you want to reallocate your 2118 01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:56,560 staff's time. So, we want to 2119 01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:59,280 >> if we have to be down a person because 2120 01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:00,800 we can't afford them anymore, 2121 01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:01,120 >> right? 2122 01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:02,880 >> What alternative methods do we have to 2123 01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:03,760 still 2124 01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:04,080 >> true 2125 01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:06,320 >> maintain the facilities we're expected 2126 01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:06,960 to maintain? 2127 01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:08,239 >> Right. And the robotic lawn mower is not 2128 01:26:08,239 --> 01:26:10,320 the problem then it's a retention issue 2129 01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:11,760 and that comes back to the border like 2130 01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:12,480 we can't 2131 01:26:12,480 --> 01:26:15,280 >> could be ordered differently for sure 2132 01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:17,520 >> utilize technology to improve 2133 01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,080 >> efficiently use our staffing yeah 2134 01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:22,320 >> but I just blank that's what I was 2135 01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:23,920 trying to get at there's there's a 2136 01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:25,120 different way you could word that to 2137 01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:27,040 present it better uh Stephanie you were 2138 01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:28,719 talking about staff retention have we 2139 01:26:28,719 --> 01:26:32,000 ever looked at odd things like a 410 2140 01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:34,159 workday where they would work 10 hours a 2141 01:26:34,159 --> 01:26:36,239 day four days a week and get a three day 2142 01:26:36,239 --> 01:26:37,520 >> we do that right Yeah. 2143 01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:43,030 >> Okay. Does all staff do it? 2144 01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:44,880 » Are salary employees allowed to 2145 01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:46,320 reallocate their time so they wouldn't 2146 01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:49,840 have to work six days a week? 2147 01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:53,440 >> Um, as long as we get stuff done, well, 2148 01:26:53,440 --> 01:26:55,280 didn't Rene tell me that she works every 2149 01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:57,920 Saturday during summer 2150 01:26:57,920 --> 01:26:59,760 seven days a week. Rene 2151 01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:00,560 >> I mean, a lot of 2152 01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:01,360 >> that on her own. 2153 01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:02,320 >> Yeah, that's true. 2154 01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:04,639 >> Yeah. 2155 01:27:04,639 --> 01:27:07,360 >> What about going back to increasing HSA 2156 01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:08,560 a little bit because that would be a 2157 01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:11,040 triple tax advantage for employees 2158 01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:14,960 whereas a 3% or 4% or 2% would have the 2159 01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:17,120 potential of putting some employees into 2160 01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:20,080 that next tax bracket. 2161 01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,080 So would that be a different way of 2162 01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:24,639 showing staff that we value them without 2163 01:27:24,639 --> 01:27:27,199 just being a straight 3% 3% 3% every 2164 01:27:27,199 --> 01:27:28,800 year? 2165 01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:30,080 It's certainly something that we could 2166 01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:32,239 cost out if we wanted to increase that 2167 01:27:32,239 --> 01:27:34,000 HSA, 2168 01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:36,400 although I would say it's the majority. 2169 01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:40,000 Not everyone is on our insurance. Um, 2170 01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,480 the other pieces we do offer both an HSA 2171 01:27:42,480 --> 01:27:44,880 and a traditional plan. And so even if 2172 01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:46,320 you are on our insurance, it doesn't 2173 01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:48,480 mean that you are on a high deductible 2174 01:27:48,480 --> 01:27:50,239 health plan. 2175 01:27:50,239 --> 01:27:53,520 So increasing it, 2176 01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:55,920 if I'm understanding correctly, might it 2177 01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:56,800 not affect everyone? 2178 01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:58,960 >> It might not affect everyone. It might 2179 01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:00,639 cause people to switch to the high 2180 01:28:00,639 --> 01:28:03,040 deductible, though. That could also be a 2181 01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:03,760 possibility. 2182 01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:05,199 >> I just want to look at the whole picture 2183 01:28:05,199 --> 01:28:07,360 instead of just assuming a 3%. I want to 2184 01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:09,040 make sure that we're looking at all of 2185 01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:10,639 our options. 2186 01:28:10,639 --> 01:28:15,679 >> And certainly it um talking about 410, 2187 01:28:15,679 --> 01:28:17,840 additional holidays would be another one 2188 01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:19,280 of those items. Are there additional 2189 01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,120 holidays that we want to offer there? 2190 01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:23,360 Municipalities. Some municipalities are 2191 01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:25,360 closed on different days than us. Right 2192 01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:27,600 now we have nine holidays 2193 01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:30,239 >> and two floating or 2194 01:28:30,239 --> 01:28:31,600 not? 2195 01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:34,400 >> No, we just we have PTO. 2196 01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:37,440 >> What are some of the 2197 01:28:37,440 --> 01:28:39,199 >> Well, just our offices are open five 2198 01:28:39,199 --> 01:28:39,840 days a week. 2199 01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:40,239 >> Correct. 2200 01:28:40,239 --> 01:28:42,960 >> Where adjoining municipalities are not. 2201 01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:43,360 >> Correct. 2202 01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:44,000 >> They're closed on 2203 01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:44,719 >> through the summer. 2204 01:28:44,719 --> 01:28:46,000 >> Yeah. Through the summer. 2205 01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:47,840 >> Yep. Okay. Go ahead. What are some of 2206 01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:49,679 the holidays that we aren't giving now 2207 01:28:49,679 --> 01:28:50,800 that others are? 2208 01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:54,080 >> Martin Luther King Day, Junth, Columbus 2209 01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,880 Day. Those are the big ones that I can 2210 01:28:56,880 --> 01:29:01,830 think of that 2211 01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:03,679 » given day, right? Veterans Day. 2212 01:29:03,679 --> 01:29:07,040 >> Veterans Day. Yeah. 2213 01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,920 >> We have some wellness incentives too 2214 01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:14,159 that they get um Garmin or like cash 2215 01:29:14,159 --> 01:29:15,760 cards or anything like that if you do 2216 01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:17,280 certain things. Do we have any kind of 2217 01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:19,520 wellness incentives that employees get? 2218 01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:22,880 >> We do wellness um 2219 01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:25,280 I guess contests. We want to say it that 2220 01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:28,880 >> yeah challenges. So, if there's the 2221 01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:30,960 potential to win a prize if you're part 2222 01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:32,719 of the wellness challenge and that can 2223 01:29:32,719 --> 01:29:34,960 offset your health insurance premium for 2224 01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:38,159 the next year to a 9010 if you you get 2225 01:29:38,159 --> 01:29:41,040 your annual exam. If if you um you have 2226 01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:46,320 to do a questionnaire and then if you didn't qualify in your annual exam, 2227 01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:47,840 you have to complete that challenge, 2228 01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:49,520 then you can get that that lesser 2229 01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:56,400 premium. Um so, I mean that's a very small number. And then for Garmin, 2230 01:29:56,400 --> 01:30:00,080 every two years you can have $45 off a 2231 01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:08,950 Garmin purchase. 2232 01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:10,320 » Anybody? Everybody 2233 01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:12,639 >> is wage going to be the largest expense 2234 01:30:12,639 --> 01:30:15,120 that we'll talk about. 2235 01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:16,480 >> It's like we're saying all the time and 2236 01:30:16,480 --> 01:30:17,520 I was like probably makes the most sense 2237 01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:18,080 that we're talking. 2238 01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:24,070 >> Yes, by far. 2239 01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:26,159 or which is our largest expense they owe 2240 01:30:26,159 --> 01:30:26,639 it. 2241 01:30:26,639 --> 01:30:30,159 >> They have Oh, so I was just pulling up a 2242 01:30:30,159 --> 01:30:32,719 spreadsheet. One of our main expenses we 2243 01:30:32,719 --> 01:30:36,000 call them fixed expenses. Um that 2244 01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:38,159 includes Mountain Bay, it includes safer 2245 01:30:38,159 --> 01:30:41,679 and insurance. Um we also have con and 2246 01:30:41,679 --> 01:30:45,440 those are over 50% of our budget. Um we 2247 01:30:45,440 --> 01:30:47,120 have no say in that. Those are 2248 01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:50,000 contracted. We get told how much we have 2249 01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:52,239 to pay. So those increases are already 2250 01:30:52,239 --> 01:30:55,520 known. So when we talk about the budget, 2251 01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:58,400 >> the board really only has control of 2252 01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:00,080 about half our budget. 2253 01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:01,280 >> That's general. I mean, what we're 2254 01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:02,239 talking about is general. 2255 01:31:02,239 --> 01:31:03,679 >> We're talking about general. 2256 01:31:03,679 --> 01:31:08,320 >> Your contracts are are 50 52% of your 2257 01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:08,960 general. 2258 01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:12,000 >> The next is contracted services. So 2259 01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:13,840 street maintenance is in our general 2260 01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:17,280 fund. That's is it a half a million? 2261 01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:20,159 300,000 half a million. That's that's a 2262 01:31:20,159 --> 01:31:23,600 huge expense in our general fund that we 2263 01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:26,560 don't have we have control over it, but 2264 01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:28,560 we just said street maintenance is a 2265 01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:31,280 main priority. So, what we've done in 2266 01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:33,280 the past is we've shipped those expenses 2267 01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:35,280 out of the general fund trying to 2268 01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:37,600 maintain that funding it with the 2269 01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:40,480 general transportation aid increases not 2270 01:31:40,480 --> 01:31:44,320 to affect the general fund so much. Um, 2271 01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:46,000 when I looked at my spreadsheet for 2272 01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:49,280 2025, I know it's a year ago, but our 2273 01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:52,560 wages and benefits were about 27% of the 2274 01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:54,719 total budget. So, when we're talking 2275 01:31:54,719 --> 01:31:57,840 about that, um, I did find, so the 2276 01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:03,840 average hourly wage in 2026 is 63,382. 2277 01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:07,040 To give you an idea with that, um, I 2278 01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:09,199 have my salaries in a separate column. 2279 01:32:09,199 --> 01:32:13,120 So, um I was going to get those numbers 2280 01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:14,159 for you. 2281 01:32:14,159 --> 01:32:17,679 >> Your 27% is that just general, too? 2282 01:32:17,679 --> 01:32:19,920 >> Yes, that was just general fund. And 2283 01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:25,430 then so salaries the average is 88,724. 2284 01:32:25,440 --> 01:32:28,239 » Okay. You need for salary and what was 2285 01:32:28,239 --> 01:32:30,159 it for hourly 63 or 2286 01:32:30,159 --> 01:32:31,679 >> 64? 83. 2287 01:32:31,679 --> 01:32:33,920 >> Okay. 2288 01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:36,719 >> And that that's based on the 2026 2289 01:32:36,719 --> 01:32:38,960 estimate. So 2290 01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:40,400 >> you by chance have the highest and 2291 01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:43,280 lowest in front of you as well. 2292 01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:45,520 >> The highest 2293 01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:47,120 127 2294 01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:51,270 and then the lowest 2295 01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:54,639 I don't have the lowest 2296 01:32:54,639 --> 01:32:59,830 you can have. 2297 01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:02,239 » I don't have it because they're lowest 2298 01:33:02,239 --> 01:33:06,229 paid and play left. 2299 01:33:06,239 --> 01:33:07,120 What are your hourly? 2300 01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:08,719 >> That was hourly. 2301 01:33:08,719 --> 01:33:18,149 >> Yeah. 2302 01:33:18,159 --> 01:33:19,840 » Questions, 2303 01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:21,440 discussions? 2304 01:33:21,440 --> 01:33:24,400 >> Not on that. Next item. Trustee 2305 01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:28,320 compensation. Yeah, just on if we I took 2306 01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:30,320 down good notes on those questions so we 2307 01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:32,400 can bring that back to continue the the 2308 01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:34,800 conversation at the the next meeting. 2309 01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:36,719 But then on that last one that the 2310 01:33:36,719 --> 01:33:38,159 actually there are two more trustee 2311 01:33:38,159 --> 01:33:41,600 compensation and and capital. Um on 2312 01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:43,840 trustee compensation I added that in 2313 01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:46,480 because before you take papers you need 2314 01:33:46,480 --> 01:33:48,320 to set trustee compensation for the 2315 01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:50,320 term. Not that we have to make a 2316 01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:52,560 decision tonight. it. But if there was a 2317 01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:54,560 strong decision and it was made, then 2318 01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:58,080 it's can be budgeted for. But we we do I 2319 01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:00,800 did have in the RFC that wallpapers the 2320 01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:02,800 earliest that they can be turned back in 2321 01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:04,639 would be that December when they could 2322 01:34:04,639 --> 01:34:06,239 come out if if people collected all 2323 01:34:06,239 --> 01:34:07,760 their signatures and turned them back in 2324 01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:10,639 that day. um you you do have to 2325 01:34:10,639 --> 01:34:12,880 establish the wage before and it makes 2326 01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:15,040 sense to have it budgeted so it's 2327 01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:17,520 accounted for and it would only be for 2328 01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:20,000 the trustees that are up for the 2729 2329 01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:23,040 term that it would impact. 2330 01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:26,239 >> Yeah. Well, I wasn't in favor of the 2331 01:34:26,239 --> 01:34:29,679 raise to begin that we got back when, 2332 01:34:29,679 --> 01:34:32,719 and I think we got one the last term. 2333 01:34:32,719 --> 01:34:38,880 Um, where you, um, my term, 2334 01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:42,159 we were given a $50 2335 01:34:42,159 --> 01:34:45,280 compensation for all meetings that we 2336 01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:47,120 attended 2337 01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:48,320 >> other than board 2338 01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:50,639 >> other than responsibilities. 2339 01:34:50,639 --> 01:34:53,360 >> Border review. No, it was but border 2340 01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:55,920 review and and 2341 01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:57,440 um 2342 01:34:57,440 --> 01:35:01,760 I have I do not take it. 2343 01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:04,000 >> I don't get it cuz that was 2344 01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:06,560 >> Right. Right. And that was voted out 2345 01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:10,320 that the new term will not have it. Um, 2346 01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:14,560 I just think that the amount of money 2347 01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:18,000 that the trustees are paid, 2348 01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:21,360 um, minus the extra one that they had 2349 01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:25,360 the 50 is more than sufficient. 2350 01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:28,480 Um, as I had pointed out 2351 01:35:28,480 --> 01:35:32,800 back when, um, if you if you count the 2352 01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:36,480 board meetings and the board of review, 2353 01:35:36,480 --> 01:35:40,239 you're getting $600 a month. 2354 01:35:40,239 --> 01:35:42,800 And I think that's more than sufficient 2355 01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:44,800 compensation. 2356 01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:46,960 I mean, Mark, your salary probably is, 2357 01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:50,639 but this was the trustee salary that if 2358 01:35:50,639 --> 01:35:52,239 you do that, um, 2359 01:35:52,239 --> 01:35:54,159 >> so the the trustees in the village of 2360 01:35:54,159 --> 01:35:56,800 Weston, um, about eight years ago, I 2361 01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:59,520 think, is when we did it, um, is $7,200 2362 01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:02,560 a year, and the president makes $8,400 a 2363 01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:05,600 year. Prior to that, the the prior 24 2364 01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:09,600 years was $4,800 and $6,000. 2365 01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:12,080 So, it's a $1,200 difference between the 2366 01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:15,920 trustee and the president. Um, but yes, 2367 01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:19,440 it went from 4,800 to 7,200. And uh, and 2368 01:36:19,440 --> 01:36:21,199 I I led the charge on it. We didn't get 2369 01:36:21,199 --> 01:36:23,760 a raise for 72 years, some people didn't 2370 01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:26,480 want it, one being Barb and some others. 2371 01:36:26,480 --> 01:36:28,880 Uh, but looking around for what this 2372 01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:30,719 village is doing and how it's growing 2373 01:36:30,719 --> 01:36:32,800 and and looking at other municipalities, 2374 01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:35,760 the town of Weston chairman gets $14,000 2375 01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:39,120 a year. Town of Weston. Um the city of 2376 01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:42,320 Scoffield, 2,000 people gets uh 12 or 2377 01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:43,840 13,000 hours a year. I'm not 2378 01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:44,400 complaining. 2379 01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:45,520 >> They weren't numbers one more time. 2380 01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:46,800 >> Well, you can look them up, you know. 2381 01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:49,920 So, but um you know, so uh the county 2382 01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:53,520 board the county board uh um supervisors 2383 01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:57,440 I think get 46 thou $4,600. 2384 01:36:57,440 --> 01:37:00,560 The the the um the chair was getting um 2385 01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:03,199 10 or 12, but now it's like 40. 2386 01:37:03,199 --> 01:37:03,520 >> Yeah. 2387 01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:07,040 >> It's like $45,000 a year. So, um, uh, 2388 01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:11,360 the town of Maine, uh, chair gets, 2389 01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:13,520 um, but she also does planning like 2390 01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:15,840 30,000 or $32,000. 2391 01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:16,800 So, 2392 01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:17,920 >> but, you know, they're all out there. 2393 01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:20,080 They're all public published. So, so I 2394 01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:22,560 I'm I'm I I think the wages are fine 2395 01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:23,840 right here. I do. 2396 01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:26,639 >> And, uh, you know, some people uh, uh, 2397 01:37:26,639 --> 01:37:28,480 we've had trustees that have donated 2398 01:37:28,480 --> 01:37:30,639 their money. Um, I know Jim has said 2399 01:37:30,639 --> 01:37:32,320 that several times. he donates his for 2400 01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:33,840 fundraisers and stuff that he does for 2401 01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:37,280 the public safety. Um, so I've heard 2402 01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:41,760 some say it's a car payment and I I just get disgusted when someone says 2403 01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:44,000 that, but um I think it's a heck of a 2404 01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:46,320 service and a heck of a responsibility 2405 01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:48,639 and um so that's where we are, 2406 01:37:48,639 --> 01:37:52,239 >> right? And I was glad that they we 2407 01:37:52,239 --> 01:37:54,639 actually reversed the 2408 01:37:54,639 --> 01:37:56,880 >> the 50 um 2409 01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:58,560 >> we had a couple trustees that wanted 2410 01:37:58,560 --> 01:37:59,600 extra payment on it, 2411 01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:01,679 >> right? And like I said, 2412 01:38:01,679 --> 01:38:03,040 >> um, they Okay, 2413 01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:04,560 >> I was just going to let everybody know 2414 01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:06,239 that I have a spreadsheet from the 2415 01:38:06,239 --> 01:38:09,199 county clerk from 2025 with a lot of 2416 01:38:09,199 --> 01:38:11,440 municipalities in Marathon County with 2417 01:38:11,440 --> 01:38:13,360 all the rates of who what they all get 2418 01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:15,119 paid. So, if anybody would like a copy 2419 01:38:15,119 --> 01:38:16,480 of that, I can email it to you. 2420 01:38:16,480 --> 01:38:17,840 >> And I didn't want to be I didn't want to 2421 01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:20,159 say what I said, Lisa, but I I'm not 2422 01:38:20,159 --> 01:38:22,000 exactly sure, so I don't want to be 2423 01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:24,239 quoted exactly the number. I know I'm 2424 01:38:24,239 --> 01:38:26,400 very close, but I I don't want to all of 2425 01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:27,760 a sudden come out, hey, you know, 2426 01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:29,920 Mahoney says 12,000 for, you know, this. 2427 01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:30,080 So, 2428 01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:31,679 >> can you send it out to all of us? 2429 01:38:31,679 --> 01:38:32,080 >> What's that? 2430 01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:33,840 >> I can I can if you'd like it. Sure. 2431 01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:34,400 Thank you. 2432 01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:36,000 >> It's amazing how so many municipalities 2433 01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:37,920 don't share, which is 2434 01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:39,600 >> they're probably not all on here, so 2435 01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:40,400 >> Okay, go ahead. 2436 01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:42,080 >> Yeah, I was just going to say if if 2437 01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:44,320 they're donating their wages, I guess I 2438 01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:47,280 donate donated the $50 every meeting 2439 01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:50,080 back to the village. Well, because two 2440 01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:51,040 years I could have did it 2441 01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:52,880 >> when I was 40 when it was 4,800 for a 2442 01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:54,800 trustee and it went to 72 and some of 2443 01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:56,159 the trustees said they didn't want the 2444 01:38:56,159 --> 01:38:58,400 raise. I said, "Then donate it. Donate 2445 01:38:58,400 --> 01:38:59,520 the raise. 2446 01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:01,360 >> Go do something good. Do uh what's 2447 01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:05,910 that?" Oxycodin. No, that's a drug. 2448 01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:08,400 » I I knew I said that on purpose. Very 2449 01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:11,119 small a very small attempt at humor. But 2450 01:39:11,119 --> 01:39:12,800 what does that uh what does your body 2451 01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:14,639 do? Oxy what? 2452 01:39:14,639 --> 01:39:15,440 >> Oxytocin. 2453 01:39:15,440 --> 01:39:17,280 >> Yep. Hey, cool. you you start going 2454 01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:18,719 around and handing out $100 bills, 2455 01:39:18,719 --> 01:39:19,679 people are going to be very happy with 2456 01:39:19,679 --> 01:39:21,760 you. So, and it might spread to somebody 2457 01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:22,159 else. 2458 01:39:22,159 --> 01:39:24,000 >> I just decided the village needed it 2459 01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:24,400 more. 2460 01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:26,239 >> There you go. Good for you. So, here we 2461 01:39:26,239 --> 01:39:27,360 go. Yes. 2462 01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:29,040 >> I can't take it off my taxes because I 2463 01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:31,119 didn't get it. 2464 01:39:31,119 --> 01:39:33,520 >> I don't think we need to increase. 2465 01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:35,280 >> I totally agree. I think we can move on 2466 01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:36,639 from this point if everybody 2467 01:39:36,639 --> 01:39:37,679 >> I totally agree. 2468 01:39:37,679 --> 01:39:39,199 >> I wanted to make a motion. The finance 2469 01:39:39,199 --> 01:39:40,800 committee needs to make a motion and 2470 01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:42,560 approve first and then the board if I'm 2471 01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:43,600 reading everything correctly. 2472 01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:44,080 >> Yes. Right. 2473 01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:45,840 >> Okay. So on behalf of the finance and 2474 01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:47,360 human resources committee, I make a 2475 01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:50,000 motion to leave trustee compensation as 2476 01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:52,560 it is going forward. 2477 01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:54,800 >> Again, it would be for the 2729 term. 2478 01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:56,560 >> 2729 term. 2479 01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:59,360 >> I'll second. Okay, that is that cut 2480 01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:02,400 >> by Daniels. Any discussion? 2481 01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:03,600 Whereas the committee, all those in 2482 01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:05,360 favor signify by saying I. 2483 01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:07,199 >> I 2484 01:40:07,199 --> 01:40:09,280 motion so carried. Now, on behalf of the 2485 01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:11,119 board, uh, we'll make the same motion 2486 01:40:11,119 --> 01:40:12,880 that the trustee compensation for the 2487 01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:17,040 2027 2029 term remains the same as 2488 01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:20,800 $7,200 and $8,400. 7,200 for trustee and 2489 01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:23,199 $8,400 for president. 2490 01:40:23,199 --> 01:40:23,840 >> Second. 2491 01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:25,440 >> A motion by 2492 01:40:25,440 --> 01:40:26,320 >> I'll make the motion. 2493 01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:27,520 >> Oh, you said second. 2494 01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:28,880 >> Well, yeah, because I thought you were 2495 01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:29,840 making the motion. 2496 01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:32,080 >> No, I'm just reading off. Okay, I'll 2497 01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:33,920 make that motion that we 2498 01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:36,320 >> um motion by Mling. 2499 01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:39,520 >> Second by Luiz and um any more in the 2500 01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:41,679 discussion? Hearing none. All those in 2501 01:40:41,679 --> 01:40:42,480 favor say I. 2502 01:40:42,480 --> 01:40:45,760 >> I opposed. So carry done. 2503 01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:47,520 >> Now we can go tell all the people that 2504 01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:48,800 called and said that that was our number 2505 01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:50,560 one priority that that was not our 2506 01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:53,440 number one priority and uh it was just a 2507 01:40:53,440 --> 01:40:55,360 placeholder. So we have it now it's set 2508 01:40:55,360 --> 01:40:57,920 for the next term. So there you go. 2509 01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:06,950 Okay. uh capital project funds. 2510 01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:09,440 » So as I explained before, this is our 2511 01:41:09,440 --> 01:41:12,239 kebab improvement fund. Our this um the 2512 01:41:12,239 --> 01:41:14,320 facilities fund, streets fund, and 2513 01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:16,960 equipment fund. We keep track of them 2514 01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:18,719 separately, but if you were to look at 2515 01:41:18,719 --> 01:41:20,159 our financial statements, they're 2516 01:41:20,159 --> 01:41:22,239 combined into our capital improvement 2517 01:41:22,239 --> 01:41:24,880 fund. So um we keep track of them 2518 01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:29,360 separately here. As you can see, the the 2519 01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:31,199 projects that you see on the sheets in 2520 01:41:31,199 --> 01:41:35,920 front of you are part of the 2026 2027 2521 01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:38,639 capital improvement plan. This a plan 2522 01:41:38,639 --> 01:41:41,920 was approved about a year ago. We are 2523 01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:43,920 moving forward with the plan that was 2524 01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:46,639 approved at our next meeting. We plan on 2525 01:41:46,639 --> 01:41:49,040 bringing you the borrowing that will 2526 01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:51,760 support the expenditures you see on 2527 01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:55,520 these next couple sheets. So, um, a lot 2528 01:41:55,520 --> 01:41:58,000 of this stuff was already purchased as 2529 01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:00,719 approved by the plan, but I thought it 2530 01:42:00,719 --> 01:42:02,800 was prudent to bring it forward to show 2531 01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:05,280 you what we're planning on spending that 2532 01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:07,119 was approved and where the prices are 2533 01:42:07,119 --> 01:42:09,199 coming in. 2534 01:42:09,199 --> 01:42:11,679 Uh, we will be talking about our next 2535 01:42:11,679 --> 01:42:14,800 capital improvement plan will be 2028 2536 01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:18,159 2029. We try to borrow in two-year 2537 01:42:18,159 --> 01:42:20,400 segments um to reduce the cost of 2538 01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:22,560 borrowing. 2539 01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:25,760 Any questions on what's on those sheets? 2540 01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:28,880 >> So, the 2027 proposed budgets, all of 2541 01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:30,400 that stuff and there was stuff that was 2542 01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:34,480 already agreed to pass is done. 2543 01:42:34,480 --> 01:42:37,280 >> If you have absolutely concerned, but a 2544 01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:38,560 lot like for the streets, the 2545 01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:40,400 engineering is being done. The contracts 2546 01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:42,560 are being signed for those streets. 2547 01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:44,239 Correct. 2548 01:42:44,239 --> 01:42:47,040 >> Yeah. 2549 01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:48,480 >> Just go ahead. 2550 01:42:48,480 --> 01:42:49,600 >> I just have one quick question. I'm 2551 01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:52,080 assuming it's a perhaps just a coding 2552 01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:56,000 error. Um I I'm on page I'm not sure 2553 01:42:56,000 --> 01:42:59,600 what page I'm on. Um there's a a million 2554 01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:01,920 dollars in the 2027 proposed budget 2555 01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:04,719 under workers comp for Howland. 2556 01:43:04,719 --> 01:43:06,000 >> Yeah, that would be an error. 2557 01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:07,440 >> Okay. I just want to make sure we were 2558 01:43:07,440 --> 01:43:08,719 paying a million dollars for workers 2559 01:43:08,719 --> 01:43:09,280 comp. 2560 01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:10,560 >> Good good question because I had that 2561 01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:12,800 not like is that something I don't know 2562 01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:14,480 about I need to talk to or to get 2563 01:43:14,480 --> 01:43:14,880 educated? 2564 01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:18,480 >> Um it could have been just a line below. 2565 01:43:18,480 --> 01:43:20,000 It should have been under contracted 2566 01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:22,639 services instead of workers comp 2567 01:43:22,639 --> 01:43:25,199 >> page 73. 73. Okay. 2568 01:43:25,199 --> 01:43:28,480 >> So that number is correct for that 2569 01:43:28,480 --> 01:43:30,639 project. It's just in the wrong line. I 2570 01:43:30,639 --> 01:43:32,960 need to add a line. Street and curb. 2571 01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:36,080 >> We usually budget all the expense for a 2572 01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:39,119 project on one line. 2573 01:43:39,119 --> 01:43:42,400 >> I just feel that's what you do. 2574 01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:45,840 >> Just be time to go home. The only really 2575 01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:48,239 big guestimment I'll put on here is that 2576 01:43:48,239 --> 01:43:50,800 leak detection. I put a $100,000 in 2577 01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:53,520 there. I talked to Sean. It's totally 2578 01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:55,119 unknown. They are just doing the 2579 01:43:55,119 --> 01:43:57,520 exploration right now for that leak for 2580 01:43:57,520 --> 01:44:00,480 the pool. So, obviously, as a reminder, 2581 01:44:00,480 --> 01:44:02,480 before any work is done, we always bring 2582 01:44:02,480 --> 01:44:04,719 it back here. It's in the plan, but 2583 01:44:04,719 --> 01:44:07,679 nothing gets approved, 2584 01:44:07,679 --> 01:44:10,080 nothing moves forward without the final 2585 01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:12,000 board approval. All contracts for 2586 01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:13,840 streets get approved by the board. And 2587 01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:16,480 it's just the way that we have always 2588 01:44:16,480 --> 01:44:18,800 done things. Final approval, even if 2589 01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:20,239 it's in the budget, is done by the 2590 01:44:20,239 --> 01:44:25,430 board. 2591 01:44:25,440 --> 01:44:28,239 Any questions on the process that we 2592 01:44:28,239 --> 01:44:31,760 use? As again, there are no utility 2593 01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:33,520 costs in there. So when you see the 2594 01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:35,520 Holland's a million dollars, that's the 2595 01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:37,360 street portion. There's water source 2596 01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:40,639 storm on that, too. Um, same with all 2597 01:44:40,639 --> 01:44:42,719 our other roads. We usually have 2598 01:44:42,719 --> 01:44:44,400 utilities when we're digging up a road. 2599 01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:49,189 We have some utility work right away. 2600 01:44:49,199 --> 01:44:50,560 » Jess, do you just want to cover a little 2601 01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:53,040 bit about what the how that borrowing 2602 01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:56,480 piece looks like at the next meeting? 2603 01:44:56,480 --> 01:44:59,199 Just the flow? 2604 01:44:59,199 --> 01:45:03,669 >> No, I don't know. 2605 01:45:03,679 --> 01:45:06,880 » We We work with Ellers. Oh, Greg already 2606 01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:09,280 sent us a projection with what that 2607 01:45:09,280 --> 01:45:12,480 borrowing looks like. He does 2608 01:45:12,480 --> 01:45:15,040 usually four or five years. He'll send 2609 01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:17,679 out a plan. He gives us the estimated 2610 01:45:17,679 --> 01:45:20,800 tax impact with equalized value, not 2611 01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:22,400 necessarily what will be on the tax 2612 01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:24,560 bill, but uses our equalized value and 2613 01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:27,440 gives the potential tax impact that we 2614 01:45:27,440 --> 01:45:31,440 will see. Um, we will probably get Greg 2615 01:45:31,440 --> 01:45:33,760 on the phone. He has done it in the past 2616 01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:35,119 where he'll walk through his 2617 01:45:35,119 --> 01:45:38,400 presentation and answer any questions. 2618 01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:40,400 We use Ellards as our financial 2619 01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:43,679 advisors, quarrels as our bond counsel. 2620 01:45:43,679 --> 01:45:48,639 Um I reached or I forwarded from the 2621 01:45:48,639 --> 01:45:52,080 last meeting I forwarded Greg our 2622 01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:55,760 approved bank note and the schedule 2623 01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:58,560 and he has already incorporated that 2624 01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:01,199 into our borrowing. I do anticipate that 2625 01:46:01,199 --> 01:46:02,880 being a little bit differently, being 2626 01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:05,520 able to pay off some of the debt early 2627 01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:08,159 because we levied $400,000 last year 2628 01:46:08,159 --> 01:46:10,080 towards that debt. So, we'll be taking a 2629 01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:12,239 big chunk out right away. I'm lowering 2630 01:46:12,239 --> 01:46:15,760 that, but yeah, hopefully um everything 2631 01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:18,000 goes smoothly and we'll be able to 2632 01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:20,239 report and get that approved at our next 2633 01:46:20,239 --> 01:46:22,159 board meeting in September. 2634 01:46:22,159 --> 01:46:24,159 >> Will we be rated again? 2635 01:46:24,159 --> 01:46:24,719 >> Yes. 2636 01:46:24,719 --> 01:46:27,679 And so you'll we'll likely also see 2637 01:46:27,679 --> 01:46:30,239 they usually put out a media release on 2638 01:46:30,239 --> 01:46:33,280 the villages rating afterwards too. 2639 01:46:33,280 --> 01:46:37,520 >> We're double A3 right now if that if 2640 01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:40,560 anyone cares. It's it's a good we get a 2641 01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:42,880 lower rate. The better our rating, the 2642 01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:44,960 lower our interest rate, the more people 2643 01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:48,400 want to buy our bonds in notes. We're 2644 01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:50,239 going to be notes. It's not I think 2645 01:46:50,239 --> 01:46:51,920 there is a revenue bond that he'll be 2646 01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:54,400 recommending for the water utility. And 2647 01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:56,480 the reason that we split it up between 2648 01:46:56,480 --> 01:46:58,800 revenue bonds and geo debt is to make 2649 01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:01,119 sure we stay well under that threshold 2650 01:47:01,119 --> 01:47:05,520 that is um put on by the state. So and 2651 01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:07,679 our policy. 2652 01:47:07,679 --> 01:47:08,400 >> Yes. 2653 01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:13,119 >> On page 75 it's it's the last two pages. 2654 01:47:13,119 --> 01:47:16,800 >> Um 75 says transfer from room tax fund 2655 01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:20,800 for 2027. And then the last page says 2656 01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:23,199 transfer to facility and transfer to 2657 01:47:23,199 --> 01:47:26,159 street for 2026. How often do we 2658 01:47:26,159 --> 01:47:28,400 transfer between funds? 2659 01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:31,280 >> So I record all the bond proceeds in one 2660 01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:33,119 fund and then I just transfer it to the 2661 01:47:33,119 --> 01:47:34,800 other funds 2662 01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:36,880 >> just for simplicity sake. Makes it 2663 01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:37,679 easier. 2664 01:47:37,679 --> 01:47:39,440 >> Yeah, 2665 01:47:39,440 --> 01:47:41,840 that's why I mentioned when that the 2666 01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:44,880 financial statements have one fund. Um, 2667 01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:47,520 I keep it so I don't have to recreate a 2668 01:47:47,520 --> 01:47:50,400 hundred accounts. Um, previous to me, 2669 01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:53,679 they actually reported all the funds in 2670 01:47:53,679 --> 01:47:55,760 our financial statements. So, that's why 2671 01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:58,239 that transfers and they're all separate. 2672 01:47:58,239 --> 01:48:00,400 But, um, when we weren't using the 2673 01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:03,760 facilities fund for so many years, it's 2674 01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:05,360 you don't want to just keep adding and 2675 01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:07,920 subtracting funds. that really the 2676 01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:10,400 continuity of looking at your financial 2677 01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:12,000 statements and comparing when you have 2678 01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:13,760 funds dropping and adding every year 2679 01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:17,430 isn't very good. 2680 01:48:17,440 --> 01:48:18,239 » Yeah. 2681 01:48:18,239 --> 01:48:20,719 >> Um for the 2027 budget, I'm looking at 2682 01:48:20,719 --> 01:48:22,960 your equipment fund and your streets 2683 01:48:22,960 --> 01:48:24,560 fund. They carry relatively high 2684 01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:26,960 balances and I see you have interest 2685 01:48:26,960 --> 01:48:28,320 income. There isn't anything 2686 01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:31,199 specifically budgeted for 2027. I know 2687 01:48:31,199 --> 01:48:32,960 you have some limitations as a 2688 01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:34,719 governmental entity as what you can 2689 01:48:34,719 --> 01:48:37,760 invest in, but do you have a um a cash 2690 01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:39,600 management strategy or investment 2691 01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:41,760 objectives like a policy or anything 2692 01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:42,560 like that? 2693 01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:43,520 >> No. 2694 01:48:43,520 --> 01:48:44,320 >> Okay. 2695 01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:45,760 >> Something we could use. 2696 01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:46,880 >> Okay. 2697 01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:49,520 >> We add that to our priorities 2698 01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:51,119 like 2699 01:48:51,119 --> 01:48:57,669 the 2700 01:48:57,679 --> 01:49:00,159 » we won't be having much money come. um 2701 01:49:00,159 --> 01:49:01,920 we'll be spending that capital 2702 01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:04,000 improvement. That's where right now 2703 01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:05,840 we're looking at our balance. What do we 2704 01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:07,440 want to keep in there and what should we 2705 01:49:07,440 --> 01:49:11,440 not borrow for? Um having a policy that 2706 01:49:11,440 --> 01:49:13,520 has a minimum in there is probably a 2707 01:49:13,520 --> 01:49:18,159 good idea, but looking towards what 2708 01:49:18,159 --> 01:49:21,600 should it be, I think that will require 2709 01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:23,760 a lot of research and personal 2710 01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:26,800 preference. I'm not quite sure 2711 01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:33,189 where it should be. Anyone 2712 01:49:33,199 --> 01:49:38,790 else? 2713 01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:42,880 » Nothing. No more. Our first workshop's 2714 01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:44,800 almost done. 2715 01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:46,800 >> Don't sound happy. 2716 01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:48,159 >> How about if we go into remarks from 2717 01:49:48,159 --> 01:49:49,920 staff? Any staff have any remarks? 2718 01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:50,719 Everyone's got one. 2719 01:49:50,719 --> 01:49:56,000 >> I do. I have one. So every Tuesday we 2720 01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:57,920 meet as department directors and we talk 2721 01:49:57,920 --> 01:50:00,080 about our frustrations and the future 2722 01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:02,159 and what we're planning on and what's 2723 01:50:02,159 --> 01:50:05,360 going on with our department. And we 2724 01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:07,119 also 2725 01:50:07,119 --> 01:50:09,760 we always talk about what's going on at 2726 01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:12,880 the meetings. So, one of the things we 2727 01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:15,199 talk about is our staff, our staff 2728 01:50:15,199 --> 01:50:17,760 retention and the importance of our 2729 01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:21,920 staff and how you don't always see that 2730 01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:25,199 we are able to do so much with so little 2731 01:50:25,199 --> 01:50:27,760 because of our staff. We got good staff. 2732 01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:30,560 So, I was on LinkedIn the other day and 2733 01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:33,199 I found a really good article. So, I'm 2734 01:50:33,199 --> 01:50:34,960 going to read some of it. It's just 2735 01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:38,159 going to be really quick. Um, and it's 2736 01:50:38,159 --> 01:50:41,760 the most convers controversial item, 2737 01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:44,719 $400 I have ever spent as a nonforprofit 2738 01:50:44,719 --> 01:50:47,600 leader. So, I simplified this. I did 2739 01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:49,280 forward it to our department heads and 2740 01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:50,960 they thought it was a really excellent 2741 01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:53,840 article and it's an article we we feel 2742 01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:56,639 that we would like to share because we 2743 01:50:56,639 --> 01:50:59,760 feel this way very much so. So, a few 2744 01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:01,920 months ago, I spent approximately $400 2745 01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:05,360 on a coffee and espresso machine. 2746 01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:06,880 Hear me out. It wasn't the cheapest 2747 01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:09,040 machine available. It was certainly 2748 01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:11,280 nicer than the basic coffee maker it 2749 01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:12,960 replaced. 2750 01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:14,719 Um, 2751 01:51:14,719 --> 01:51:17,360 but this discussion also exposed a 2752 01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:19,199 larger 2753 01:51:19,199 --> 01:51:22,629 phys theological 2754 01:51:22,639 --> 01:51:25,440 » physiological tension that I suspect 2755 01:51:25,440 --> 01:51:28,880 exists in many nonprofit organizations 2756 01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:32,639 including governments. Um, what does 2757 01:51:32,639 --> 01:51:36,320 responsible stewardship actually mean? 2758 01:51:36,320 --> 01:51:38,159 Does it mean spending as little as 2759 01:51:38,159 --> 01:51:40,239 possible on the people doing the work? 2760 01:51:40,239 --> 01:51:42,719 Does it mean operating with outdated 2761 01:51:42,719 --> 01:51:44,719 equipment, avoiding anything that could 2762 01:51:44,719 --> 01:51:47,119 be described as a perk, and expecting 2763 01:51:47,119 --> 01:51:49,040 employees to accept less because they 2764 01:51:49,040 --> 01:51:54,470 work for missiondriven government? 2765 01:51:54,480 --> 01:51:56,320 There can sometimes be an unspoken 2766 01:51:56,320 --> 01:51:58,719 belief that government slashnot 2767 01:51:58,719 --> 01:52:00,880 forprofit employees should work with 2768 01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:02,960 holes in their shoes, eat instant 2769 01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:04,719 noodles for lunch, and feel grateful 2770 01:52:04,719 --> 01:52:06,880 simply because the work has a meaningful 2771 01:52:06,880 --> 01:52:09,599 purpose. The mission matters. Of course, 2772 01:52:09,599 --> 01:52:13,360 it does. But the work does not happen by 2773 01:52:13,360 --> 01:52:16,080 itself. It happens because people answer 2774 01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:18,159 emails late at night. They solve 2775 01:52:18,159 --> 01:52:20,560 scheduling problems involving hundreds 2776 01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:22,960 of teams which hundreds of residents. 2777 01:52:22,960 --> 01:52:25,760 They respond with fields and streets 2778 01:52:25,760 --> 01:52:28,400 suddenly become unavailable and flooded. 2779 01:52:28,400 --> 01:52:30,159 Many of these efforts will not be 2780 01:52:30,159 --> 01:52:33,760 visible to the families we serve. 2781 01:52:33,760 --> 01:52:35,679 They will however determine the quality 2782 01:52:35,679 --> 01:52:37,840 of those families are community 2783 01:52:37,840 --> 01:52:40,239 experience. That is why I do not believe 2784 01:52:40,239 --> 01:52:42,400 supporting employees and supporting the 2785 01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:45,040 mission are competing priorities. In a 2786 01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:47,440 healthy organization, they reinforce one 2787 01:52:47,440 --> 01:52:50,639 another. Notfor-profit/government 2788 01:52:50,639 --> 01:52:52,800 leaders have an obligation to be careful 2789 01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:55,520 with money. That's not up for debate. We 2790 01:52:55,520 --> 01:52:57,360 should question expenses. We should 2791 01:52:57,360 --> 01:52:59,440 compare costs. We should avoid waste, 2792 01:52:59,440 --> 01:53:01,360 negotiate contracts, build responsible 2793 01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:02,880 reserves, and make sure our spending 2794 01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:05,520 reflects our priorities. But responsible 2795 01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:07,920 should not automatically mean cheapest. 2796 01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:10,000 and refusing to invest in the employees 2797 01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:11,599 experience may eventually show up 2798 01:53:11,599 --> 01:53:13,760 through burnout, disengagement, poor 2799 01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:16,000 service, or turnover. Those costs are 2800 01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:18,239 real, even if they're not neatly labeled 2801 01:53:18,239 --> 01:53:21,679 on a monthly profit and loss statement. 2802 01:53:21,679 --> 01:53:24,000 Could that small investment 2803 01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:26,000 help reinforce a culture in which 2804 01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:28,000 employees feel valued and therefore 2805 01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:30,239 better positioned to serve others? 2806 01:53:30,239 --> 01:53:31,440 People need to know that the 2807 01:53:31,440 --> 01:53:33,520 organization cares about them, not 2808 01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:36,800 simply about how much work it can give 2809 01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:37,840 them. 2810 01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:39,360 Sometimes supporting the people who 2811 01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:41,040 carry the mission is one of the most 2812 01:53:41,040 --> 01:53:43,280 responsible investments we can make and 2813 01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:45,840 I care immensely about the staff here 2814 01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:47,920 and they in turn care immensely about 2815 01:53:47,920 --> 01:53:51,199 the village that they serve. What can I 2816 01:53:51,199 --> 01:53:53,760 say is our staff are work incredibly 2817 01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:56,400 hard. They care about the game. This is 2818 01:53:56,400 --> 01:54:00,800 for a soccer organization and the people we serve 2819 01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:02,639 which are our residents. They regularly 2820 01:54:02,639 --> 01:54:04,400 give more than their job descriptions 2821 01:54:04,400 --> 01:54:06,960 require and they do it in an environment 2822 01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:09,679 that can be demanding and stressful. 2823 01:54:09,679 --> 01:54:12,080 After all, taking care of people is not 2824 01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:13,599 separate from taking care of the 2825 01:54:13,599 --> 01:54:15,440 mission. It's how the mission gets 2826 01:54:15,440 --> 01:54:16,960 accomplished. 2827 01:54:16,960 --> 01:54:19,119 So, I'll forward the article. It's a 2828 01:54:19,119 --> 01:54:21,360 really good article. I kind of skipped, 2829 01:54:21,360 --> 01:54:24,239 but it was this person who was a head of 2830 01:54:24,239 --> 01:54:27,119 a not for-profit soccer organization in 2831 01:54:27,119 --> 01:54:30,159 Oregon. um she bought a $400 coffee 2832 01:54:30,159 --> 01:54:32,080 machine and she got a little flack from 2833 01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:35,440 the board. So, um that is a really good 2834 01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:38,560 article, but it really reflects our 2835 01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:40,800 feelings here that we are trying to make 2836 01:54:40,800 --> 01:54:44,639 sure that the staff we serve feel 2837 01:54:44,639 --> 01:54:47,440 um they feel good about what they're 2838 01:54:47,440 --> 01:54:51,599 doing. So, that's my mission. 2839 01:54:51,599 --> 01:54:55,199 >> Thank you. 2840 01:54:55,199 --> 01:54:57,199 >> You're appreciated. 2841 01:54:57,199 --> 01:55:00,320 Uh, any other staff? Any other remarks? 2842 01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:02,560 Uh, let's see. Trustees, any remarks 2843 01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:04,560 from trustees? Go ahead. 2844 01:55:04,560 --> 01:55:07,520 >> I just like to thank you, the staff, for 2845 01:55:07,520 --> 01:55:10,960 sending a card and express your concern 2846 01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:12,880 about me. Thank you. 2847 01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:14,800 >> Yeah. Welcome back. 2848 01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:18,239 >> Yeah. Glad glad you're healthy. 2849 01:55:18,239 --> 01:55:21,199 No, just the you know there's a lot of 2850 01:55:21,199 --> 01:55:25,840 work there and and I agree that um 2851 01:55:25,840 --> 01:55:28,880 we can't just look at 2852 01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:32,400 staff for cuts. We got to you know 2853 01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:35,199 remember that they are doing a lot with 2854 01:55:35,199 --> 01:55:38,239 a lot less people. 2855 01:55:38,239 --> 01:55:41,199 >> Okay. 2856 01:55:41,199 --> 01:55:43,520 Um, no, I I appreciate you sharing that, 2857 01:55:43,520 --> 01:55:46,880 Jessica, and um, obviously I'm I'm 2858 01:55:46,880 --> 01:55:48,560 probably a little biased in my opinion 2859 01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:50,080 on that because of the fact that I do 2860 01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:54,000 work in the public sector. Um, but 2861 01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:56,960 with what Michael said earlier about um, 2862 01:55:56,960 --> 01:55:58,800 you know, maintaining our staff and 2863 01:55:58,800 --> 01:56:00,960 everything, it it is true that the cost 2864 01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:05,199 to um, retain staff in a budget is much 2865 01:56:05,199 --> 01:56:07,040 cheaper than trying to replace staff 2866 01:56:07,040 --> 01:56:09,840 because the cost the time it takes for 2867 01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:12,159 staff to go out and seek new applicants, 2868 01:56:12,159 --> 01:56:13,920 to find qualified applicants, and to 2869 01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:16,080 train them up to the level of the the 2870 01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:18,400 people that were already doing the job. 2871 01:56:18,400 --> 01:56:20,800 And and it's hard because we can't take 2872 01:56:20,800 --> 01:56:22,480 an employee who gets a job offer 2873 01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:25,520 somewhere else and be like, "Okay, I'll meet your offer." Like, we just 2874 01:56:25,520 --> 01:56:27,599 can't do that in the public sector. So, 2875 01:56:27,599 --> 01:56:30,239 it's important that ahead of time we're 2876 01:56:30,239 --> 01:56:31,840 taking care of those staff members so 2877 01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:35,119 that culture-wise and financially they 2878 01:56:35,119 --> 01:56:37,760 feel taken care of. And it can be the 2879 01:56:37,760 --> 01:56:40,080 little things. I mean, at my employer, 2880 01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:42,480 it was as simple as a grill that our 2881 01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:44,560 staff can use to just cook their food 2882 01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:47,520 and get together as a team. And people 2883 01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:49,360 would be like, "How are you buying a 2884 01:56:49,360 --> 01:56:51,119 grill?" But it was as simple as that. 2885 01:56:51,119 --> 01:56:53,679 Like it's a relatively cheap thing that 2886 01:56:53,679 --> 01:56:58,800 you can use for um helping the team. So 2887 01:56:58,800 --> 01:57:00,480 um I appreciate you sharing that and I 2888 01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:02,480 think that is an important priority for 2889 01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:04,159 us is making sure we're taking care of 2890 01:57:04,159 --> 01:57:08,709 our people. So thank you. 2891 01:57:08,719 --> 01:57:10,719 » No, Jessica, thank you for doing that 2892 01:57:10,719 --> 01:57:12,159 presentation. I know it's a lot to go 2893 01:57:12,159 --> 01:57:13,599 over, but I thought it was super 2894 01:57:13,599 --> 01:57:15,920 beneficial. So thank you. Yeah, good 2895 01:57:15,920 --> 01:57:18,000 presentation on my side, too. 2896 01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:20,159 >> Uh, we do have a good staff here and um, 2897 01:57:20,159 --> 01:57:22,400 you know, I I made the point of asking 2898 01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:24,080 how many people work here because when 2899 01:57:24,080 --> 01:57:26,400 you look at 16,000 people, the miles we 2900 01:57:26,400 --> 01:57:28,800 cover, um, all the different things and 2901 01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:32,000 it's, you know, 40 people around about, 2902 01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:33,599 you know, I used to run a grocery store 2903 01:57:33,599 --> 01:57:35,199 right down the street that had 250 2904 01:57:35,199 --> 01:57:37,119 people, you know, and we never had 2905 01:57:37,119 --> 01:57:40,080 enough. And uh the place I was working 2906 01:57:40,080 --> 01:57:43,040 at the last 20 years uh if we were we 2907 01:57:43,040 --> 01:57:45,520 were down we we had 15 to 20% turnover 2908 01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:48,080 at all the time. But uh to retrain a 2909 01:57:48,080 --> 01:57:50,960 truck driver at tens of thousands of 2910 01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:53,760 dollars and it took your your focus off 2911 01:57:53,760 --> 01:57:55,679 of what you should be doing as a 2912 01:57:55,679 --> 01:57:57,199 manager, supervisor or something like 2913 01:57:57,199 --> 01:57:58,800 that because now you you're you got to 2914 01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:00,000 make sure that these people are getting 2915 01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:03,199 up to speed having others help too. And 2916 01:58:03,199 --> 01:58:05,599 um it's it's invaluable to have a a good 2917 01:58:05,599 --> 01:58:08,639 staff and we have one. So, um, uh, I'll 2918 01:58:08,639 --> 01:58:10,639 turn it over to the committee. Anything 2919 01:58:10,639 --> 01:58:13,990 any remarks? 2920 01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:15,119 » None. 2921 01:58:15,119 --> 01:58:16,400 >> Good, good questions tonight, by the 2922 01:58:16,400 --> 01:58:16,800 way. 2923 01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:18,320 >> No, I mean, you I've said it enough for 2924 01:58:18,320 --> 01:58:20,719 these meetings and I feel like the same 2925 01:58:20,719 --> 01:58:23,199 vibe happens is that the staff feel 2926 01:58:23,199 --> 01:58:25,040 unappreciated. And I don't know what 2927 01:58:25,040 --> 01:58:27,119 that why that's the vibe I get when we 2928 01:58:27,119 --> 01:58:29,599 sit in the um, and so I think we have 2929 01:58:29,599 --> 01:58:31,440 some work to do, whether it's on the HR 2930 01:58:31,440 --> 01:58:33,199 and the finance committee, but that's 2931 01:58:33,199 --> 01:58:34,800 the the vibe I get it. whether it was 2932 01:58:34,800 --> 01:58:36,639 the clothing stipen that we couldn't we 2933 01:58:36,639 --> 01:58:38,719 eventually came to an agreement on. Um 2934 01:58:38,719 --> 01:58:41,360 so I just I think that's an interesting 2935 01:58:41,360 --> 01:58:43,119 thing that we need to dive into whether 2936 01:58:43,119 --> 01:58:45,360 it's about a grill or a coffee maker or 2937 01:58:45,360 --> 01:58:47,840 wages or whatever it is. But that's not 2938 01:58:47,840 --> 01:58:49,360 the first time that that's been the 2939 01:58:49,360 --> 01:58:50,719 conversation and I think it's something 2940 01:58:50,719 --> 01:58:53,360 that we have to look at as a committee. 2941 01:58:53,360 --> 01:58:56,400 >> I think um um you know citizens um at 2942 01:58:56,400 --> 01:58:58,800 the federal level you can't go at it. 2943 01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:00,480 You can't it's too big. It's too it's 2944 01:59:00,480 --> 01:59:02,000 too far out there. In the state level 2945 01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:04,880 you can't. But local level Citizens can 2946 01:59:04,880 --> 01:59:07,599 attack and citizens do attack local 2947 01:59:07,599 --> 01:59:09,760 level all over the place. They they 2948 01:59:09,760 --> 01:59:13,679 attack on on minuscule things and they 2949 01:59:13,679 --> 01:59:15,760 micromanage and I'm not I'm not saying 2950 01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:17,599 all of them. I I get some wonderful 2951 01:59:17,599 --> 01:59:20,400 calls and some wonderful comments and I 2952 01:59:20,400 --> 01:59:21,840 actually would like to share all those 2953 01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:24,480 instead of the negative ones I get. But 2954 01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:26,000 um we've had staff leave here because 2955 01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:27,280 they don't feel appreciated. 2956 01:59:27,280 --> 01:59:29,199 >> Yeah. And and they don't they don't feel 2957 01:59:29,199 --> 01:59:32,239 anybody speaking up for them. And um but 2958 01:59:32,239 --> 01:59:34,159 uh but the local level you can go right 2959 01:59:34,159 --> 01:59:37,040 at it. You can tackle all you want. Um 2960 01:59:37,040 --> 01:59:39,920 but well said. It's a vibe that over the 2961 01:59:39,920 --> 01:59:41,679 years it's it's becoming more and more 2962 01:59:41,679 --> 01:59:42,320 prevalent. 2963 01:59:42,320 --> 01:59:43,760 >> Yeah. 2964 01:59:43,760 --> 01:59:45,599 >> Did you have something to add? 2965 01:59:45,599 --> 01:59:47,440 >> No, I mean you're past your staff 2966 01:59:47,440 --> 01:59:48,400 comments, but go ahead. 2967 01:59:48,400 --> 01:59:49,840 >> Yeah. No, I mean you kind of hit on the 2968 01:59:49,840 --> 01:59:51,920 head there. I mean, we had a a drinking 2969 01:59:51,920 --> 01:59:53,679 water loan that we were able to get 2970 01:59:53,679 --> 01:59:56,159 through, which to be perfectly honest, I 2971 01:59:56,159 --> 01:59:58,480 because of other ancillary things 2972 01:59:58,480 --> 02:00:00,480 happening in the community. I was almost 2973 02:00:00,480 --> 02:00:02,639 a week away from missing the deadline to 2974 02:00:02,639 --> 02:00:05,040 get that passed. And that's a $3 million 2975 02:00:05,040 --> 02:00:07,760 hit. Had I missed that, nobody would 2976 02:00:07,760 --> 02:00:08,880 know. We're still putting in the 2977 02:00:08,880 --> 02:00:10,480 treatment facility and we're paying $4 2978 02:00:10,480 --> 02:00:12,480 million and that's the cost of business. 2979 02:00:12,480 --> 02:00:13,119 Mhm. 2980 02:00:13,119 --> 02:00:16,159 >> But because we're able to stay and work 2981 02:00:16,159 --> 02:00:18,719 nights and weekends and all of a sudden 2982 02:00:18,719 --> 02:00:20,239 realize, hey, I'm catching up on these 2983 02:00:20,239 --> 02:00:23,360 things, we're saving our utility payers 2984 02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:25,679 $3 million. You know, it's it's those 2985 02:00:25,679 --> 02:00:28,080 items that I think are a little harder. 2986 02:00:28,080 --> 02:00:31,040 Um, and and I I guess that's, you know, 2987 02:00:31,040 --> 02:00:34,159 budget honestly is a very tough time for 2988 02:00:34,159 --> 02:00:36,800 a lot of us because we're the ones in 2989 02:00:36,800 --> 02:00:39,679 this day in and day out and we know, you 2990 02:00:39,679 --> 02:00:42,159 know, 1% of all of our wages is what, 2991 02:00:42,159 --> 02:00:44,320 $15,000 or something like that. 2992 02:00:44,320 --> 02:00:46,159 Sometimes I feel like we argue over that 2993 02:00:46,159 --> 02:00:49,119 $400 cost, but if I'm focused on this 2994 02:00:49,119 --> 02:00:51,440 $400 cost, I can easily miss a million 2995 02:00:51,440 --> 02:00:52,560 dollar cost 2996 02:00:52,560 --> 02:00:54,960 >> and nobody understands. And I guess I do 2997 02:00:54,960 --> 02:00:57,040 a poor job sometimes of that. and our 2998 02:00:57,040 --> 02:00:59,440 staff the ability to do what they can do 2999 02:00:59,440 --> 02:01:02,800 with equipment and materials. It's it 3000 02:01:02,800 --> 02:01:04,480 saves the taxpayers dollars. And 3001 02:01:04,480 --> 02:01:06,480 sometimes we don't have the the time 3002 02:01:06,480 --> 02:01:08,320 that we'd like to put together to show 3003 02:01:08,320 --> 02:01:10,800 how our staff raising water valves and 3004 02:01:10,800 --> 02:01:13,119 manholes and fixing all those items 3005 02:01:13,119 --> 02:01:15,119 before we put an asphalt overlay on 3006 02:01:15,119 --> 02:01:18,639 saves the taxpayers $100,000, $200,000 a 3007 02:01:18,639 --> 02:01:21,199 year. Um, but our staff's able to do 3008 02:01:21,199 --> 02:01:23,280 that. And I guess that's where the angst 3009 02:01:23,280 --> 02:01:25,440 starts happening is when they start 3010 02:01:25,440 --> 02:01:27,440 feeling underappreciated and the little 3011 02:01:27,440 --> 02:01:29,440 things we can do to help them show that 3012 02:01:29,440 --> 02:01:32,880 they are appreciated go away. Now we're 3013 02:01:32,880 --> 02:01:34,400 getting staff that can't do those 3014 02:01:34,400 --> 02:01:36,880 things. So now we're trying to train 3015 02:01:36,880 --> 02:01:38,639 them to do it or we've got equipment 3016 02:01:38,639 --> 02:01:40,320 that sits because we just don't have the 3017 02:01:40,320 --> 02:01:43,440 talented staff anymore. So 3018 02:01:43,440 --> 02:01:47,199 >> thank you. Um, Christina or Daniel. No. 3019 02:01:47,199 --> 02:01:48,239 Okay. 3020 02:01:48,239 --> 02:01:50,800 >> All right. So, future items, uh, let's 3021 02:01:50,800 --> 02:01:52,719 see. The next meeting is September 8th 3022 02:01:52,719 --> 02:01:55,280 at 6:00 p.m. Uh, let's see. Monday, 3023 02:01:55,280 --> 02:01:57,599 September 21st at 5:00 p.m. Monday, 3024 02:01:57,599 --> 02:02:00,000 October 5th at 5:00 p.m. and Monday, 3025 02:02:00,000 --> 02:02:02,560 October 19th at 5:30 p.m. I think two of 3026 02:02:02,560 --> 02:02:05,360 them are are together. Uh, what the 5 3027 02:02:05,360 --> 02:02:07,520 and 5:30. The second and fourth one are 3028 02:02:07,520 --> 02:02:08,960 with boards. 3029 02:02:08,960 --> 02:02:11,679 >> The 21st and the 19th are with boards. 3030 02:02:11,679 --> 02:02:14,560 >> Okay. And on the on the 21st and the and 3031 02:02:14,560 --> 02:02:17,040 the 19th, if if we need to do a separate 3032 02:02:17,040 --> 02:02:18,960 finance, we might start like a half hour 3033 02:02:18,960 --> 02:02:21,840 beforehand if there are any financial or 3034 02:02:21,840 --> 02:02:23,280 HR things that we need to handle 3035 02:02:23,280 --> 02:02:24,960 separately. But we'll communicate with 3036 02:02:24,960 --> 02:02:27,119 you if that's if we do need to. 3037 02:02:27,119 --> 02:02:29,679 >> Okay. All good. Looking for a motion to 3038 02:02:29,679 --> 02:02:31,280 adjurnn. 3039 02:02:31,280 --> 02:02:31,920 >> So move. 3040 02:02:31,920 --> 02:02:35,760 >> Motion by second by Olsen. Uh anything 3041 02:02:35,760 --> 02:02:38,080 further on discussion hearing? None. All 3042 02:02:38,080 --> 02:02:39,840 those in favor say I. 3043 02:02:39,840 --> 02:02:43,840 >> Opposed. We are adjourned at 7:32. 3044 02:02:43,840 --> 02:02:45,040 >> Oh, yeah. 3045 02:02:45,040 --> 02:02:46,560 >> Technically never started our meeting 3046 02:02:46,560 --> 02:02:46,960 though. 3047 02:02:46,960 --> 02:02:48,560 >> Well, technically did it for both of 3048 02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:48,719 them. 3049 02:02:48,719 --> 02:02:50,480 >> It was on both. Yeah. 3050 02:02:50,480 --> 02:02:53,760 >> But just go ahead and adjourn yours. 3051 02:02:53,760 --> 02:02:55,199 >> I think we should adjourn the committee. 3052 02:02:55,199 --> 02:02:55,920 Yeah. Go ahead. 3053 02:02:55,920 --> 02:02:58,000 >> All right. Why don't you guys adjourn 3054 02:02:58,000 --> 02:02:59,760 like you know meeting for a month? 3055 02:02:59,760 --> 02:03:01,679 >> Yeah. Well, just adjourn. Motion to 3056 02:03:01,679 --> 02:03:02,800 adjourn. Anybody? 3057 02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:03,760 >> I'll make a motion. 3058 02:03:03,760 --> 02:03:06,480 >> Motion by Daniel. Is there a second? 3059 02:03:06,480 --> 02:03:08,239 >> Second by Daniel. I'm guessing there's 3060 02:03:08,239 --> 02:03:12,790 no discussion. All those in favor? 3061 02:03:12,800 --> 02:03:15,920 stay. We're journey.