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Planning Commission for March

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25, 2025. Madam Secretary, can

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we have a roll call, please?

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>>[CALLING ROLL]

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>> I pledge allegiance to the

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Flag of the United States of

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America and to the Republic

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for which it stands, one

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Nation under God, indivisible,

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with liberty and justice

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for all.

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>> Thank you.

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conflict

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of interest declarations. Do

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any commissioners have any

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to item five, changes

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to the agenda. Director

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to the agenda, Chair.

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>> Thank you. Moving on to

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Item 6, presentations. Item

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6.1. We'll have a presentation

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on the Windsor active

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transportation plan. Mr.

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Euphret is here

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>> Good afternoon, Chair

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Kubota, Planning commissioners.

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Carl Euphret with Public

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Works. I'm here tonight

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in place of Alejandro Perez,

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our senior civil engineer who

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manages the transportation

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group for the town. And

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Alejandro has managed this

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project. He couldn't be here

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tonight. My main focus right

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now is actually just

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to introduce Barry Bergman

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from W Trans, who has assisted

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in developing this plan. And

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presentation tonight

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at the very end. There'll be

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questions, we'll take notes,

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answer any questions we can,

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and carry forward. So

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with that, I'll turn it over

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>> Thank you, Carl. Pleasure

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to be here tonight and

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to share the overview of the

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active transportation plan

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with you. And there's a lot

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of a high level overview, but I

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welcome any questions and

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comments once we get through.

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So I just want to start out by

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saying that this plan really

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marks a shift in active

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transportation planning

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for the town of Windsor. And

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that really reflects kind of

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what's happening more broadly

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just in the state of the

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practice and the development of

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complete streets and I'm sure

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just the kinds

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of facilities you've seen

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in town here and elsewhere

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in the area. Historically, the

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common practice was really

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to just add a bike lane stripe

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space available. And it really

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just became a situation where

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people realized that most

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people just don't feel

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comfortable biking

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in those kinds of facilities.

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really more dedicated cyclists.

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for all ages. And so,

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so there's been a trend toward

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designing more protected

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facilities. And that was a big

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thrust of what we

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with, with urging from council

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to emphasize more protected

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facilities and also

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on the pedestrian side,

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to look at crossings that are

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currently uncontrolled, so

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where there's no stop signs or

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signals, and to get

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across the major streets. So

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the active transportation plan.

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several things. We started with

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the projects that were

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recommendations from numerous

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recent plans that were done.

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on more protected facilities,

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what we call low traffic stress

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bicycle facilities,

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enhance uncontrolled pedestrian

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crossings. A couple

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of the really important reasons

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for doing something

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documented enables it's a lot

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easier to condition incoming

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development,

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to provide facilities

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eligibility

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which is a big way a lot

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of these projects get funded.

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of background. This is just

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commute data, which is most

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of the data we have

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about transportation. You can

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see the biking and walking

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percentages are quite low,

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but that leaves out a lot

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of trips. And so we have some

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other data. This was based

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on big data collected

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from mobile devices, looking

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at all trips. And so we look

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at 10% of trips were under 1

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mile in Windsor, 20% were 1

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increase over what's currently

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outreach done as part

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of this project. We had a

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project website where people

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included an interactive map so

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people are able to go

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that was a valuable source

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of input. This is a word cloud

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was collected from all the

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that were more dominant and not

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too surprisingly, things

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like traffic and school. And

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consistent patterns that

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bicycle improvements,

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we looked at a number

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of different factors. This map

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pedestrians and bicyclists. So

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just those. A lot

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to be able to access using

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shopping centers, schools,

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of the town. And those are

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to introduce a little jargon

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familiar. So there are six

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classifications of bicycle

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facilities that we're talking

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with it. Class one,

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multi use paths. Class two are

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Brooks Road South. Just kind

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of explain the rationale

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for how we would, how we went

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recommendations. These numbers

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of people just how they thought

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strong and fearless category,

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attracts the broadest number

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of users possible. And we can

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get hopefully some substantial

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increases in usage. So this is

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just showing how different

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types

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of facilities are selected

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for different roadways. You

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know, obviously you have

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to consider a lot

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of different factors. Often

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there's just not the space

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available, but ideally. So the

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dark blue area starts at

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around 35 miles an hour. And

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then on the vertical axis

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you've got the traffic volume,

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so about 7,000 vehicles per

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day. And so the higher the

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volume, the higher the speed.

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You want more protection. So

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either a shared use path or a

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separated bike lane or some

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kind of. Some kind

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of just that protection, then

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you have slightly lower speeds

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and lower volumes. Buffered

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bike lane is the preferred

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treatment. And then when you

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get down

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to the lowest volumes,

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less than 3,000 a day,

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less than 25 miles an hour,

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that's more an opportunity

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where bicyclists and vehicles

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can share the road. So getting

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that speed differential

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down is really important.

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Bicycle parking is an important

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thing to consider here.

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There's certainly a lot

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of racks available,

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particularly around the town

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of Green, right around here.

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But we also want

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to expand that to look more at

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parking that could be provided

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by employers,

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which might require. So it'd be

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longer term throughout the day,

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so might require more

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protection,

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so they're less vulnerable to

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weather and theft and that sort

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of thing. So we have some

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recommendations around that.

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On the pedestrian side,

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we're looking

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at a few different types

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of facilities. On the left you

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can see that's the intersection

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of Windsor Road at Ryman. And

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that's a rectangular rapid

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flashing beacon. And so those

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are used as their push button

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activated, they'll flash and

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they have a very high rate

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of yielding of motorists, much

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higher than when they're not

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present. The second shot is

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of a curb extension. So that

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reduces the crossing distance

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and gets pedestrians in a

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position where they can be more

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easily seen by motorists. And

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the third one,

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there's also the flashing

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beacon there,

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that's up the freeway

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on ramp,

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but it has a raised crosswalk.

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So it's similar

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to a speed hump,

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but a little flatter,

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but provides requires motors

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to slow

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down as they're crossing,

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a bicycle pedestrian facility.

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So the project recommendations

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to prioritize the projects,

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we group the projects

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in three different groups. So

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with trail projects,

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like I said, this was really a

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focused update. And so the

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trails. The city's trail study

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that was done a few years ago

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took A highly detailed look at

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the trail projects and did an

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analysis based on a number

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of factors. And so we didn't

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want

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to throw that good work away.

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But so projects that still had

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not been constructed,

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we basically carried forward

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into the current plan on street

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bicycle projects and pedestrian

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crossing improvements. We

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didn't want to. It is an apples

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and oranges kind of thing.

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But the types

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of criteria we're using,

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whether they provide access

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to major destinations, so

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hopefully that reflects some

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level of usage, network

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connectivity. I think

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particularly where you're

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talking

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about bicycle projects, if you

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have a bicycle facility and

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then you suddenly ends or it

419
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becomes a much less protected

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facility, that for a lot

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of users may be enough

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to deter them

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from using it altogether.

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So just to have more

425
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interconnected system address

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safety issues. So we looked at

427
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the collision history where

428
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there was more of a need to

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that and the warrant analysis

430
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that's for the

431
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pedestrian side,

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when we look at where

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to put those flashing beacons,

434
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we look at things

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like the vehicle speed, the

436
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volume, the number

437
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of pedestrians anticipated, and

438
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there's a mathematical form

439
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formula that determines whether

440
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that's a good treatment

441
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for that type of location. And

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then community support,

443
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we look to see which was

444
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previously identified

445
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in other plans and

446
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through a public process. And

447
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then we also gave some extra

448
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weight on the bicycle side for

449
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those facilities that did

450
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provide some separation. So the

451
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class 2B, the striped bike,

452
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the buffered bike lane, or the

453
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class four are the ones that

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had the vertical element

455
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in there. So looking

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at the total

457
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of the recommendations, the

458
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trails, there are 18.8 miles

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of trail segments for the

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on street bicycle facilities,

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a total of 24.5 miles. If you

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total up, you look

463
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at the buffered bike lanes. So

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the Class 2B is 3.2 miles. The

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separated bike lanes, the

466
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Class 4 is 10.2 miles,

467
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and the Class 2 or Class 4,

468
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that requires a little more

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study because sometimes whether

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you can put a barrier

471
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in there, you'd have to look

472
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at driveways and other kinds

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of factors. That just requires

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a little more study. But when

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you combine those three things,

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that's about 17 miles

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of bikeway out of the 24. So it

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was definitely an emphasis on

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those more protected facilities

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for pedestrians. We looked

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at third 33 enhanced crossings,

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and a lot of those are those

483
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flashing beacons or other kinds

484
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of things where there might be

485
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medians. And then there were

486
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several sidewalk apps

487
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along major streets that we,

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that we included

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in the recommendations.

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After doing the prioritization,

491
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we took the kind

492
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of the top tier

493
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of projects and presented them

494
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to the public and tried

495
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to see, well, which of those

496
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projects do people feel most

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strongly about

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to help guide staff

499
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in pursuing funding. And also

500
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it's something that can be used

501
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in a grant application to help

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support and demonstrate that

503
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the public is in favor

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of these types of projects. So

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the lines on there, the blue

506
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segments represent the priority

507
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bike projects and the numbers

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are the locations

509
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of the pedestrian crossings.

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So here's a list of those. So

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you can see Old Redwood

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Highway, Shiloh Road, Arata

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Star Road. So I think the

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streets that most people would

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predict that they would be

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in favor of and these are the

517
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ones where via usage and where

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there is the opportunity

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to put in these facilities.

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The numbers with the circles

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are the pedestrian projects.

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You can see that it's like on

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Shiloh Road on the bottom you

524
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can see it says bike project

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number seven. So it's a little

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hard to see. That

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on the next page. So these are

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the pedestrian projects

529
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in order. And the particular

530
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intersections, you can see

531
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there's different types

532
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of treatments recommended.

533
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There are FBs, the flashing

534
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beacons, curb extensions,

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crosswalks,

536
00:17:39,100 --> 00:17:41,100
various treatments. There were

537
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several other recommendations

538
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aside

539
00:17:44,100 --> 00:17:46,100
from the specific projects. As

540
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I mentioned before,

541
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we were looking

542
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at bicycle parking. And so what

543
00:17:50,100 --> 00:17:51,100
most jurisdictions have

544
00:17:51,100 --> 00:17:53,100
traditionally done

545
00:17:53,100 --> 00:17:55,100
around bike parking is to

546
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require bike parking as a

547
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percentage of the total parking

548
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requirements, let's say 10%.

549
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And what we wanted to do was

550
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to look in a more nuanced way

551
00:18:03,100 --> 00:18:04,100
at the needs

552
00:18:04,100 --> 00:18:06,100
for specific land uses. So

553
00:18:06,100 --> 00:18:08,100
for retail, for office,

554
00:18:08,100 --> 00:18:10,100
what types of bike parking

555
00:18:10,100 --> 00:18:11,100
would be appropriate? So

556
00:18:11,100 --> 00:18:13,100
for example,

557
00:18:13,100 --> 00:18:15,100
bike racks would be fine for

558
00:18:15,100 --> 00:18:17,100
retail customers who wouldn't

559
00:18:17,100 --> 00:18:19,100
be there for maybe more than an

560
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hour or two. But

561
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for an employee who's going

562
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to be there for eight hours,

563
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they're going

564
00:18:25,100 --> 00:18:27,100
to want some sort

565
00:18:27,100 --> 00:18:29,100
of a protected facility, a

566
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locked, you know,

567
00:18:31,100 --> 00:18:32,100
locker or a room or something

568
00:18:32,100 --> 00:18:34,100
like that. So there were some

569
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established, some, some, some

570
00:18:36,100 --> 00:18:38,100
approaches that have been

571
00:18:38,100 --> 00:18:40,100
taken. We included a sample in

572
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there and it's really something

573
00:18:42,100 --> 00:18:44,100
that needs to be Windsor

574
00:18:44,100 --> 00:18:45,100
specific. But it was least we

575
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provide some guidance as a

576
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place to start. We also

577
00:18:49,100 --> 00:18:50,100
recommend that the town

578
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continue to support the Safe

579
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Routes to School programming.

580
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That's really gotten a

581
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lot of participation and, and

582
00:18:57,100 --> 00:18:59,100
it's especially as new

583
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facilities come online

584
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to get children more

585
00:19:02,100 --> 00:19:04,100
comfortable

586
00:19:04,100 --> 00:19:07,100
with using them and also

587
00:19:07,100 --> 00:19:09,100
to look at opportunities

588
00:19:09,100 --> 00:19:11,100
for reducing speeding. Part

589
00:19:11,100 --> 00:19:13,100
of that

590
00:19:13,100 --> 00:19:15,100
through enforcement and also

591
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with the passage of AB

592
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43, which provides the towns

593
00:19:18,100 --> 00:19:20,100
more flexibility

594
00:19:20,100 --> 00:19:22,100
to reduce speed limits and

595
00:19:22,100 --> 00:19:23,100
at selected locations. So that

596
00:19:23,100 --> 00:19:26,100
in itself is a whole other

597
00:19:26,100 --> 00:19:27,100
process And I know it's just

598
00:19:27,100 --> 00:19:28,100
starting to be implemented

599
00:19:28,100 --> 00:19:30,100
in different places

600
00:19:30,100 --> 00:19:31,100
around the area. Just wanted

601
00:19:31,100 --> 00:19:32,100
to show a map of the network. I

602
00:19:32,100 --> 00:19:33,100
don't know if anyone's had a

603
00:19:33,100 --> 00:19:35,100
chance to review the plan

604
00:19:35,100 --> 00:19:36,100
to put it online. It's a little

605
00:19:36,100 --> 00:19:37,100
hard to see at this scale,

606
00:19:37,100 --> 00:19:39,100
but it does give you a sense of

607
00:19:39,100 --> 00:19:40,100
where the coverage and the

608
00:19:40,100 --> 00:19:41,100
types

609
00:19:41,100 --> 00:19:42,100
of facilities. I did zoom

610
00:19:42,100 --> 00:19:44,100
in a little bit. So if you want

611
00:19:44,100 --> 00:19:45,100
to take a closer look and ask

612
00:19:45,100 --> 00:19:46,100
some questions. This is the

613
00:19:46,100 --> 00:19:48,100
northern part of town and then

614
00:19:48,100 --> 00:19:50,100
we have the southern part

615
00:19:50,100 --> 00:19:52,100
of town. Pedestrian

616
00:19:52,100 --> 00:19:54,401
improvements. These were the

617
00:19:55,100 --> 00:19:57,100
intersection locations. You can

618
00:19:57,100 --> 00:20:00,100
see a lot along Old Redwood

619
00:20:00,100 --> 00:20:02,100
highway, in particular Star

620
00:20:02,100 --> 00:20:04,100
Road. And that's all I've got.

621
00:20:04,100 --> 00:20:07,601
I do have copies of the

622
00:20:08,100 --> 00:20:12,201
project list as a table and so

623
00:20:13,100 --> 00:20:15,100
just wanted to share that

624
00:20:15,100 --> 00:20:17,100
in case you want to have that

625
00:20:17,100 --> 00:20:19,401
in front of you.

626
00:20:21,100 --> 00:20:24,100
>> Thank you very much. This

627
00:20:28,100 --> 00:20:29,100
time we're going to open it up

628
00:20:29,100 --> 00:20:31,100
to the commissioners

629
00:20:31,100 --> 00:20:33,401
for questions of stop.

630
00:20:37,100 --> 00:20:39,100
Commission Rennie, go

631
00:20:39,100 --> 00:20:41,100
ahead.

632
00:20:41,100 --> 00:20:43,100
>> When you're talking about

633
00:20:43,100 --> 00:20:45,100
parking facilities or

634
00:20:45,100 --> 00:20:47,100
bicycling, a lot of communities

635
00:20:47,100 --> 00:20:48,100
and I think we only have one,

636
00:20:48,100 --> 00:20:49,100
have tool stations kind of

637
00:20:49,100 --> 00:20:51,100
along the main corridors

638
00:20:51,100 --> 00:20:52,100
to be available for cyclists.

639
00:20:52,100 --> 00:20:54,100
Are those considered

640
00:20:55,100 --> 00:20:58,100
in these plans? Or either water

641
00:20:58,100 --> 00:21:00,100
stations or tool stations

642
00:21:00,100 --> 00:21:03,100
along these routes. So I think

643
00:21:03,100 --> 00:21:05,401
that's be very favorable.

644
00:21:07,100 --> 00:21:09,100
>> Yeah, it's not something we

645
00:21:09,100 --> 00:21:10,100
currently have in there, but we

646
00:21:10,100 --> 00:21:12,100
could certainly add that. I

647
00:21:12,100 --> 00:21:13,100
mean, I know I have seen them

648
00:21:13,100 --> 00:21:14,100
around. I think

649
00:21:14,100 --> 00:21:16,100
in certain places they've,

650
00:21:16,100 --> 00:21:18,100
they've been well received. I

651
00:21:18,100 --> 00:21:19,100
have heard people express

652
00:21:19,100 --> 00:21:21,100
concerns

653
00:21:22,100 --> 00:21:24,100
about them getting vandalized.

654
00:21:24,100 --> 00:21:25,100
So I think the location

655
00:21:25,100 --> 00:21:26,100
probably needs to be consider

656
00:21:26,100 --> 00:21:28,100
pretty carefully.

657
00:21:28,100 --> 00:21:29,100
>> Yeah, the location probably

658
00:21:29,100 --> 00:21:30,100
does make a difference. I just

659
00:21:30,100 --> 00:21:31,100
have two that I pass from time

660
00:21:31,100 --> 00:21:32,100
to time here on the town Green

661
00:21:32,100 --> 00:21:33,100
and then on north street and

662
00:21:33,100 --> 00:21:35,100
Healdsburg, which is right, I

663
00:21:35,100 --> 00:21:37,100
think, right next to Town

664
00:21:37,100 --> 00:21:38,100
Hall. So it probably is a

665
00:21:38,100 --> 00:21:40,100
favorable location. And that

666
00:21:40,100 --> 00:21:42,100
one has a bike pump where some

667
00:21:42,100 --> 00:21:45,100
of the other locations don't.

668
00:21:46,100 --> 00:21:48,100
It's a pretty nice amenity. If

669
00:21:48,100 --> 00:21:49,100
we're looking

670
00:21:49,100 --> 00:21:50,100
at really supporting cyclists,

671
00:21:50,100 --> 00:21:51,100
both those in the community and

672
00:21:51,100 --> 00:21:53,100
those visiting passing through,

673
00:21:53,100 --> 00:21:54,100
those are really favorable

674
00:21:54,100 --> 00:21:56,100
amenities to consider.

675
00:22:06,100 --> 00:22:08,100
>> I have something quick. I

676
00:22:08,100 --> 00:22:09,100
was looking

677
00:22:09,100 --> 00:22:10,100
through the table and

678
00:22:10,100 --> 00:22:11,100
through the presentation,

679
00:22:11,100 --> 00:22:13,100
and there's one area of town

680
00:22:13,100 --> 00:22:14,100
that I don't see really

681
00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:15,100
represented well on here,

682
00:22:15,100 --> 00:22:16,100
and that's Conde Lane, where

683
00:22:16,100 --> 00:22:18,100
there is really no sidewalk or

684
00:22:18,100 --> 00:22:19,100
bike lane to speak of. It's a

685
00:22:19,100 --> 00:22:21,100
little isolated because I think

686
00:22:21,100 --> 00:22:22,100
it's a retirement. Mobile homes

687
00:22:22,100 --> 00:22:24,100
pretty much down there.

688
00:22:24,100 --> 00:22:25,100
Approaching Bell Road. And it

689
00:22:25,100 --> 00:22:26,100
may be something to do

690
00:22:26,100 --> 00:22:27,100
with outreach

691
00:22:27,100 --> 00:22:29,100
in the surveys and kind

692
00:22:29,100 --> 00:22:30,100
of those responses, But I

693
00:22:30,100 --> 00:22:31,100
believe that particular area

694
00:22:31,100 --> 00:22:32,100
of town is kind of isolated

695
00:22:32,100 --> 00:22:34,100
because there isn't a walk

696
00:22:34,100 --> 00:22:35,100
around to get

697
00:22:35,100 --> 00:22:37,100
to the town green, which would

698
00:22:37,100 --> 00:22:39,100
probably be the closest

699
00:22:39,100 --> 00:22:40,100
on the list

700
00:22:40,100 --> 00:22:41,100
of things you presented.

701
00:22:41,100 --> 00:22:42,100
>> Are you talking

702
00:22:42,100 --> 00:22:43,100
about a particular part of

703
00:22:43,100 --> 00:22:45,100
Condi Lane or?

704
00:22:45,100 --> 00:22:46,100
>> It'd probably be from Bell

705
00:22:46,100 --> 00:22:47,100
Road north to connecting up

706
00:22:47,100 --> 00:22:49,100
where the bowling alley is?

707
00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:50,100
>> Yeah, we have. I think there

708
00:22:50,100 --> 00:22:52,100
is a recommendation

709
00:22:53,100 --> 00:22:54,100
along pretty much the entirety

710
00:22:54,100 --> 00:22:56,100
of Conde Lane.

711
00:22:56,100 --> 00:22:59,100
>> But I think it's hard

712
00:22:59,100 --> 00:23:01,100
to see on this. Chair, I

713
00:23:01,100 --> 00:23:03,100
could say it is Conde Lane,

714
00:23:03,100 --> 00:23:06,100
but one of my comments was they

715
00:23:06,100 --> 00:23:07,100
got class one. And then, oh,

716
00:23:07,100 --> 00:23:09,100
boy,

717
00:23:10,100 --> 00:23:11,100
I am ferociously colorblind.

718
00:23:11,100 --> 00:23:13,100
So these drive me nuts. So I

719
00:23:13,100 --> 00:23:15,100
think you got Class 1

720
00:23:15,100 --> 00:23:17,100
on there. Maybe Class 2.

721
00:23:17,100 --> 00:23:19,100
>> 2B.

722
00:23:19,100 --> 00:23:21,100
>> 2 or 2B from Bell Road

723
00:23:21,100 --> 00:23:23,100
south.

724
00:23:23,100 --> 00:23:24,100
>> Yeah, if I could jump

725
00:23:24,100 --> 00:23:25,100
on that. I think I live

726
00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:27,100
in that area. That should be an

727
00:23:27,100 --> 00:23:28,100
absolutely protected bike lane.

728
00:23:28,100 --> 00:23:29,100
There are a lot of people who

729
00:23:29,100 --> 00:23:31,100
use motorized wheelchairs who

730
00:23:31,100 --> 00:23:34,100
go on Conde and there's plenty

731
00:23:34,100 --> 00:23:36,100
of space there. There's a

732
00:23:36,100 --> 00:23:37,100
desire path, you know, a foot

733
00:23:37,100 --> 00:23:39,100
off the lane that goes all the

734
00:23:39,100 --> 00:23:41,100
way up.

735
00:23:41,100 --> 00:23:43,100
>> Are you talking about the

736
00:23:43,100 --> 00:23:44,100
southern section there or. I'm

737
00:23:44,100 --> 00:23:45,100
just. I know the

738
00:23:45,100 --> 00:23:47,100
characteristics change the

739
00:23:47,100 --> 00:23:48,100
road, Conde.

740
00:23:48,100 --> 00:23:50,100
>> Essentially from. Once you

741
00:23:50,100 --> 00:23:51,100
get about a quarter mile past

742
00:23:51,100 --> 00:23:53,100
Mitchell heading north.

743
00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:55,100
>> Okay.

744
00:23:57,100 --> 00:23:59,100
>> Then you have a very wide

745
00:23:59,100 --> 00:24:01,100
shoulder that you can see

746
00:24:01,100 --> 00:24:02,100
people traverse all the time.

747
00:24:02,100 --> 00:24:03,100
And a lot of them are elderly

748
00:24:03,100 --> 00:24:05,401
and use mobility devices.

749
00:24:06,100 --> 00:24:08,401
>> So it'd be the,

750
00:24:09,100 --> 00:24:11,100
like the frontage of where

751
00:24:11,100 --> 00:24:13,100
Windsor Waterworks would have

752
00:24:13,100 --> 00:24:14,100
been.

753
00:24:14,100 --> 00:24:15,100
>> The mobile home all the way

754
00:24:15,100 --> 00:24:17,100
past Conde Vet North.

755
00:24:17,100 --> 00:24:19,100
Exactly.

756
00:24:19,100 --> 00:24:20,100
>> That's all I ever know.

757
00:24:20,100 --> 00:24:22,100
Thank you.

758
00:24:26,100 --> 00:24:28,100
>> Thank you for coming. I

759
00:24:28,100 --> 00:24:29,100
really appreciate you being

760
00:24:29,100 --> 00:24:30,100
here. Good to see you all. You

761
00:24:30,100 --> 00:24:32,100
might notice I have cleverly

762
00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:33,100
moved my bike closer. Closer.

763
00:24:33,100 --> 00:24:36,100
Because I've only been asking

764
00:24:36,100 --> 00:24:37,100
for two years and three months

765
00:24:37,100 --> 00:24:39,100
for bike parking outside this

766
00:24:39,100 --> 00:24:41,100
spot right here. And I know

767
00:24:41,100 --> 00:24:42,100
it's coming. I know we have the

768
00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:44,100
technology. I know we're going

769
00:24:44,100 --> 00:24:45,100
to find the $200 and the six

770
00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:47,100
bolts and we're going to figure

771
00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:48,100
it out.

772
00:24:48,100 --> 00:24:50,100
>> I asked yesterday because I

773
00:24:50,100 --> 00:24:51,100
wrote

774
00:24:51,100 --> 00:24:52,100
over it.

775
00:24:52,100 --> 00:24:53,100
>> I have confidence

776
00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:54,100
in the town of Windsor that we

777
00:24:54,100 --> 00:24:55,100
can do big things together.

778
00:24:55,100 --> 00:24:56,100
But if that bike comes up here

779
00:24:56,100 --> 00:24:58,100
in two more meetings,

780
00:24:58,100 --> 00:24:59,100
I'm going to start

781
00:24:59,100 --> 00:25:00,100
to make a big fuss

782
00:25:00,100 --> 00:25:01,100
about it. I do like this. I did

783
00:25:01,100 --> 00:25:03,100
review it and thank you very

784
00:25:03,100 --> 00:25:04,100
much for printing the whole

785
00:25:04,100 --> 00:25:05,100
thing out. I do have a fair

786
00:25:05,100 --> 00:25:07,100
amount

787
00:25:07,100 --> 00:25:08,100
of comments. I'll do some

788
00:25:08,100 --> 00:25:10,100
Universal ones. And then we'll

789
00:25:10,100 --> 00:25:11,100
go through it. I know we have

790
00:25:11,100 --> 00:25:12,100
another great presentation

791
00:25:12,100 --> 00:25:13,100
to come up and I don't want to

792
00:25:13,100 --> 00:25:14,100
take too much time so you guys

793
00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:16,100
can jump in and say, Tim, be

794
00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:17,100
quiet and I'll do it. 1

795
00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:19,100
universally I would like

796
00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:20,100
to see a mention of active

797
00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:22,100
transportation as the most cost

798
00:25:22,100 --> 00:25:23,100
effective method

799
00:25:23,100 --> 00:25:24,100
for transportation in a city's

800
00:25:24,100 --> 00:25:26,100
budget because roads are very

801
00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:29,100
expensive. If we can get more

802
00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:30,100
people to walk and bike,

803
00:25:30,100 --> 00:25:31,100
we will be saving money

804
00:25:31,100 --> 00:25:33,100
on our bottom line. That's 50%

805
00:25:33,100 --> 00:25:35,100
of the people is what we saw.

806
00:25:35,100 --> 00:25:37,100
From a marketing standpoint,

807
00:25:37,100 --> 00:25:39,100
guy who does a lot

808
00:25:39,100 --> 00:25:40,100
of these reports, please stop

809
00:25:40,100 --> 00:25:42,100
putting mammals middle aged men

810
00:25:42,100 --> 00:25:44,100
in Lycra as cyclists. You'll

811
00:25:44,100 --> 00:25:46,100
get a 10 year old girl

812
00:25:46,100 --> 00:25:48,100
on a bike

813
00:25:48,100 --> 00:25:50,100
on a bike lane separated by 3

814
00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:52,100
inches of paint and see how

815
00:25:52,100 --> 00:25:54,100
comfortable we feel having that

816
00:25:54,100 --> 00:25:55,100
on the front here. Because

817
00:25:55,100 --> 00:25:57,100
that's who rides their bikes

818
00:25:57,100 --> 00:25:59,100
to Cali and

819
00:26:00,100 --> 00:26:01,100
to the middle school. Stuff

820
00:26:01,100 --> 00:26:03,100
like that.

821
00:26:04,100 --> 00:26:05,100
>> You lost me on that one.

822
00:26:05,100 --> 00:26:07,100
>> I want photos

823
00:26:07,100 --> 00:26:09,100
of not the confident cyclists

824
00:26:09,100 --> 00:26:12,100
in bike lanes. I want photos

825
00:26:12,100 --> 00:26:14,100
of the 80 year old lady who

826
00:26:14,100 --> 00:26:15,100
rides her bike

827
00:26:15,100 --> 00:26:17,100
by the mobile home park

828
00:26:17,100 --> 00:26:19,100
to the grocery store. That's

829
00:26:19,100 --> 00:26:21,100
who I want because that's who

830
00:26:21,100 --> 00:26:23,401
we're writing this for.

831
00:26:24,100 --> 00:26:26,100
Right? It's not

832
00:26:27,100 --> 00:26:29,100
for chuckleheads like me

833
00:26:29,100 --> 00:26:31,100
on a bike. Some quick things

834
00:26:31,100 --> 00:26:32,100
and then I'll meet

835
00:26:32,100 --> 00:26:34,100
with you separately into some

836
00:26:34,100 --> 00:26:35,100
minor stuff and how we set it

837
00:26:35,100 --> 00:26:37,100
up. Could you delineate on all

838
00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:39,100
the pedestrian safety

839
00:26:39,100 --> 00:26:41,100
assessment and all the data you

840
00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:43,100
grab it I believe from vision0

841
00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:45,100
from SCTA and I believe that's

842
00:26:45,100 --> 00:26:46,100
all reported in incidents

843
00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:47,100
of bicycle incidents. We

844
00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:49,100
currently don't have a way

845
00:26:49,100 --> 00:26:50,100
to report if a kid is nudged

846
00:26:50,100 --> 00:26:51,100
off a bike by a car. We hear

847
00:26:51,100 --> 00:26:53,100
about on Next Door and we hear

848
00:26:53,100 --> 00:26:54,100
about on Facebook. The town

849
00:26:54,100 --> 00:26:56,100
does not have a portal for

850
00:26:56,100 --> 00:26:58,100
reporting that that I can find.

851
00:26:58,100 --> 00:26:59,100
County doesn't have that and I

852
00:26:59,100 --> 00:27:00,100
asked SCTA where they get their

853
00:27:00,100 --> 00:27:02,100
data for Vision Zero. I'm

854
00:27:02,100 --> 00:27:04,401
assuming most of it's

855
00:27:05,100 --> 00:27:06,100
from police reports and

856
00:27:06,100 --> 00:27:08,100
from insurance reports. So if

857
00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:10,100
it doesn't happen we're not

858
00:27:10,100 --> 00:27:11,100
actually capturing that data.

859
00:27:11,100 --> 00:27:12,100
>> I think that's

860
00:27:12,100 --> 00:27:13,100
through chp.

861
00:27:13,100 --> 00:27:15,100
>> Yeah, it's through chp.

862
00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:17,100
Okay. Oh boy. There's so many

863
00:27:17,100 --> 00:27:19,100
guys I would like on. I know we

864
00:27:19,100 --> 00:27:21,100
have some talk

865
00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:24,401
about complete streets and

866
00:27:25,100 --> 00:27:26,100
stuff like that. Somewhere on

867
00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:28,100
here mentions we can design

868
00:27:28,100 --> 00:27:30,100
streets to be slower. We don't

869
00:27:30,100 --> 00:27:32,100
have to worry

870
00:27:33,100 --> 00:27:34,100
about our 85% rule or whatever.

871
00:27:34,100 --> 00:27:36,401
We can design streets

872
00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:39,100
to be slow,

873
00:27:39,100 --> 00:27:40,100
we can engineer them to be fast

874
00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:42,100
and we can engineer them

875
00:27:42,100 --> 00:27:43,100
to be slow. So I think that

876
00:27:43,100 --> 00:27:45,100
could be a universal discussion

877
00:27:45,100 --> 00:27:46,100
here as we go through,

878
00:27:46,100 --> 00:27:47,100
as we talk about the other

879
00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:48,100
underlying things that build

880
00:27:48,100 --> 00:27:50,100
this document, we should

881
00:27:50,100 --> 00:27:51,100
mention that. I know it's not

882
00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:52,100
you guys.

883
00:27:52,100 --> 00:27:54,100
>> Well, actually, what I'm

884
00:27:54,100 --> 00:27:56,100
thinking is that might be a

885
00:27:56,100 --> 00:27:57,100
good comment to keep in mind

886
00:27:57,100 --> 00:27:59,100
since I know that complete

887
00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:00,100
streets guidelines are being

888
00:28:00,100 --> 00:28:01,100
updated.

889
00:28:01,100 --> 00:28:02,100
>> Right.

890
00:28:02,100 --> 00:28:04,100
>> So that'd be a good thing

891
00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:05,100
to relate to that.

892
00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:06,100
>> We might mention

893
00:28:06,100 --> 00:28:08,100
on page nine, school trips.

894
00:28:08,100 --> 00:28:10,100
They wrote school trips

895
00:28:10,100 --> 00:28:11,100
present a significant

896
00:28:11,100 --> 00:28:13,100
opportunity to increase ATP as

897
00:28:13,100 --> 00:28:14,100
students typically live close

898
00:28:14,100 --> 00:28:15,100
to the schools they attend.

899
00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:17,100
Windsor doesn't have

900
00:28:19,100 --> 00:28:20,100
neighborhood schools, so most

901
00:28:20,100 --> 00:28:22,100
kids are eventually going

902
00:28:22,100 --> 00:28:23,100
to cross town to go

903
00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:24,100
to school. So we need

904
00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:27,100
to recognize that. When we do

905
00:28:27,100 --> 00:28:29,100
on page 10, and you showed it

906
00:28:29,100 --> 00:28:30,100
in your slide, Major walking

907
00:28:30,100 --> 00:28:32,100
and bicycling destinations. I

908
00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:34,100
don't know who made this map.

909
00:28:34,100 --> 00:28:36,100
We're missing the Estrella

910
00:28:36,100 --> 00:28:37,100
Market Center. We're missing

911
00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:39,100
the entire Oliver's Town Green

912
00:28:39,100 --> 00:28:41,100
shopping center. We're missing

913
00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:42,100
the Castanedas Paul Market

914
00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:43,100
Shopping Center. So these are

915
00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:45,100
all places people walk and bike

916
00:28:45,100 --> 00:28:48,100
to. That we should put on here

917
00:28:48,100 --> 00:28:49,100
because those are definitely

918
00:28:49,100 --> 00:28:51,100
places that go on here. Yeah,

919
00:28:51,100 --> 00:28:53,100
go ahead.

920
00:28:53,100 --> 00:28:54,100
>> Adding on to that, I realize

921
00:28:54,100 --> 00:28:55,100
we highlighted all the parks. I

922
00:28:55,100 --> 00:28:56,100
don't know that the golf course

923
00:28:56,100 --> 00:28:57,100
needs to be included just

924
00:28:57,100 --> 00:28:59,100
because locally.

925
00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:01,000
>> Actually there's two people,

926
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,100
many that ride their bikes to

927
00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:03,100
the golf course. I see them.

928
00:29:03,100 --> 00:29:04,100
>> Alejandro would catch the

929
00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:05,100
golf course.

930
00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:06,000
>> Another quick note, though,

931
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,100
on that page 11, we have the

932
00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:10,100
safe routes to school,

933
00:29:10,100 --> 00:29:11,100
but we don't have Windsor

934
00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:13,100
High School listed

935
00:29:13,100 --> 00:29:14,100
on that page. And there's 1600

936
00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:15,100
kids. And this town just built

937
00:29:15,100 --> 00:29:17,100
an underpass so the kids could

938
00:29:17,100 --> 00:29:18,100
walk and ride their bikes

939
00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:20,100
there. So I think we should

940
00:29:20,100 --> 00:29:21,100
include that in there because

941
00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:22,100
that's very important and

942
00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:24,100
that's a huge reason of impact

943
00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:25,100
on the thing there. Let me keep

944
00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:26,100
going. I saw we mentioned the

945
00:29:26,100 --> 00:29:28,100
highway design manual. My eyes

946
00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:30,100
rolled in the back

947
00:29:30,100 --> 00:29:32,100
of the head. You redeemed

948
00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:33,100
yourself by calling

949
00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:34,100
out nacto. So thank you very

950
00:29:34,100 --> 00:29:36,100
much for putting that

951
00:29:36,100 --> 00:29:37,100
in there. I was starting

952
00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:39,100
to get worried.

953
00:29:39,100 --> 00:29:40,100
On page 18,

954
00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:42,100
existing bicycle

955
00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:48,100
facilities. You have a class

956
00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:50,100
one bike lane. There is a gap

957
00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:52,100
that's currently been filled

958
00:29:52,100 --> 00:29:54,100
by smart, so you might want

959
00:29:54,100 --> 00:29:56,100
to update that photo. It's page

960
00:29:56,100 --> 00:29:58,100
19, figure 3. Existing bicycle

961
00:29:58,100 --> 00:30:00,100
facilities.

962
00:30:00,100 --> 00:30:01,100
>> Thank you.

963
00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:02,100
>> I can confirm, although it's

964
00:30:02,100 --> 00:30:03,100
not officially open yet,

965
00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:05,100
that the path is finished. It

966
00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:07,100
will be open soon.

967
00:30:07,100 --> 00:30:08,100
By the time this comes out.

968
00:30:08,100 --> 00:30:11,100
Bike parking, page 19. We wrote

969
00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:13,100
racks that can accommodate

970
00:30:13,100 --> 00:30:15,100
over 50 bicycles at locations

971
00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:17,100
around the town green,

972
00:30:17,100 --> 00:30:19,100
at the library and

973
00:30:19,100 --> 00:30:20,100
along streets

974
00:30:20,100 --> 00:30:22,100
of the commercial area. The

975
00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:23,100
majority

976
00:30:23,100 --> 00:30:24,100
of our bicycle racks are

977
00:30:24,100 --> 00:30:25,100
in a park. We are trying

978
00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:26,100
to get people to take

979
00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:28,100
over trips to the store and

980
00:30:28,100 --> 00:30:29,100
to work, and they're

981
00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:32,100
in the park. So I would

982
00:30:32,100 --> 00:30:33,100
like us to recognize we don't

983
00:30:33,100 --> 00:30:34,100
really have good bike parking

984
00:30:34,100 --> 00:30:36,100
in front of stores. Cafe Noto

985
00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:39,100
has none. Right. On the entire.

986
00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:41,401
There's one per block,

987
00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:43,100
sometimes two

988
00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:45,100
on the town green when there's

989
00:30:45,100 --> 00:30:47,100
20 bike car parking spaces

990
00:30:47,100 --> 00:30:48,100
on the same block. So let's

991
00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:50,100
just rewrite this so we're not

992
00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:51,100
talking about going

993
00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:53,100
to the playground. This is

994
00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:55,100
transportation. I mean,

995
00:30:55,100 --> 00:30:57,100
the photo. Go ahead.

996
00:30:57,100 --> 00:30:58,100
>> Before we move

997
00:30:58,100 --> 00:30:59,100
on the phone photo.

998
00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:01,100
>> Also, if we can encourage

999
00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:02,100
better designed bike racks

1000
00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:03,100
because there's a lot more

1001
00:31:03,100 --> 00:31:05,100
efficient bike racks

1002
00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:07,100
out there. And frankly,

1003
00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:08,100
this u is the easiest way to

1004
00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:09,100
steal your bike if it's locked

1005
00:31:09,100 --> 00:31:11,100
up because it's just a few

1006
00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:12,100
bolts on the ground and you

1007
00:31:12,100 --> 00:31:14,100
unbolt.

1008
00:31:15,100 --> 00:31:17,100
>> It and pick it up.

1009
00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:18,100
>> Right? Well, it depends

1010
00:31:18,100 --> 00:31:20,100
on the kind of bolting there.

1011
00:31:20,100 --> 00:31:21,100
There are different

1012
00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:23,100
designs, but. Yeah, I

1013
00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:24,100
understand.

1014
00:31:24,100 --> 00:31:26,100
>> I'm almost done, guys.

1015
00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:28,100
Thank you. Page 22, we do have

1016
00:31:28,100 --> 00:31:29,100
the collision history one. And

1017
00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:31,100
it said for pedestrians,

1018
00:31:31,100 --> 00:31:32,100
the top two crash factors

1019
00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:34,100
for pedestrian right of way

1020
00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:35,100
violations and pedestrian

1021
00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:37,100
violations, accounting for 15

1022
00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:38,100
of 18 collisions, respectively.

1023
00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:39,100
I wonder where that data came

1024
00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:41,100
from. Is that from a responding

1025
00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:42,100
police officer? Is that

1026
00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:43,100
from an insurance report?

1027
00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:44,100
>> That's CHP.

1028
00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:46,100
>> That's CHP. So

1029
00:31:46,100 --> 00:31:47,100
we're relying

1030
00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:49,100
on a police officer

1031
00:31:49,100 --> 00:31:51,100
to say this is what happened.

1032
00:31:51,100 --> 00:31:52,100
We don't do like an

1033
00:31:52,100 --> 00:31:53,100
after analysis report or study

1034
00:31:53,100 --> 00:31:54,100
like that. And I know you don't

1035
00:31:54,100 --> 00:31:55,100
w chains, but I don't think

1036
00:31:55,100 --> 00:31:56,100
in town does.

1037
00:31:56,100 --> 00:31:57,100
>> Right.

1038
00:31:57,100 --> 00:31:58,100
>> No.

1039
00:31:58,100 --> 00:31:59,100
>> So we rely on the CHP

1040
00:31:59,100 --> 00:32:01,100
to police report.

1041
00:32:01,100 --> 00:32:02,100
>> Do we currently have a way

1042
00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:03,100
to report when there's

1043
00:32:03,100 --> 00:32:06,100
incidents that don't involve a

1044
00:32:06,100 --> 00:32:08,100
police report?

1045
00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:10,100
>> I made an earlier note kind

1046
00:32:10,100 --> 00:32:13,100
of to that effect. Not that I'm

1047
00:32:13,100 --> 00:32:14,100
aware of. But we will check

1048
00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:16,100
that. I'd already noted that.

1049
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:18,100
>> Okay.

1050
00:32:18,100 --> 00:32:19,100
>> Yeah. I mean,

1051
00:32:19,100 --> 00:32:21,100
there are certainly a lot of

1052
00:32:21,100 --> 00:32:22,100
collisions that happen that are

1053
00:32:22,100 --> 00:32:23,100
just not reported. And so I

1054
00:32:23,100 --> 00:32:25,100
think that's probably a good

1055
00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:27,100
thing that we could qualify,

1056
00:32:27,100 --> 00:32:29,100
you know, by. Just because we

1057
00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:30,100
don't have the actual

1058
00:32:30,100 --> 00:32:32,100
information

1059
00:32:32,100 --> 00:32:33,100
about what's not reported,

1060
00:32:33,100 --> 00:32:34,100
but we can at least acknowledge

1061
00:32:34,100 --> 00:32:35,100
that there are.

1062
00:32:35,100 --> 00:32:37,100
>> A lot of things and I know

1063
00:32:37,100 --> 00:32:38,100
three offhand witnessed that

1064
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:39,100
are underreported and they

1065
00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:40,100
involve juveniles and elderly

1066
00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:41,100
people and some who are afraid

1067
00:32:41,100 --> 00:32:43,100
of making an official report.

1068
00:32:43,100 --> 00:32:44,100
Page 25. We talked about the

1069
00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:46,401
actual goals and policies,

1070
00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:49,100
which I love,

1071
00:32:49,100 --> 00:32:50,100
which is fantastic.

1072
00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:52,100
>> Which Policy.

1073
00:32:52,100 --> 00:32:53,100
>> I'm sorry. The heading is

1074
00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:54,100
goals and policy.

1075
00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:56,100
>> Okay.

1076
00:32:56,100 --> 00:32:57,100
>> I would like

1077
00:32:57,100 --> 00:32:59,100
to add three main points. We

1078
00:32:59,100 --> 00:33:00,100
should make walking and biking

1079
00:33:00,100 --> 00:33:02,100
as easy as driving. We should

1080
00:33:02,100 --> 00:33:03,100
make walking and biking as

1081
00:33:03,100 --> 00:33:05,100
pleasant as driving. And we

1082
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:06,100
should make walking and biking

1083
00:33:06,100 --> 00:33:08,100
as natural as driving. It is

1084
00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:09,100
very easy for us to drive in

1085
00:33:09,100 --> 00:33:11,100
Windsor. And as we know,

1086
00:33:11,100 --> 00:33:13,100
it's very hard for us to walk

1087
00:33:13,100 --> 00:33:14,100
and bike certain places. And

1088
00:33:14,100 --> 00:33:16,100
that include things

1089
00:33:16,100 --> 00:33:18,100
like benches and seats

1090
00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:20,100
along paths. It would include

1091
00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:21,100
things like bike parking signs

1092
00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:23,100
so people know where

1093
00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:24,100
to park. I'm not actually mad.

1094
00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:27,601
This is my happy face. I'm

1095
00:33:28,100 --> 00:33:29,100
really happy

1096
00:33:29,100 --> 00:33:31,100
with this. I'm very passionate

1097
00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:34,100
about this. Thank you. The

1098
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:36,100
weight, the way we do the

1099
00:33:36,100 --> 00:33:37,100
engagement. I know I brought

1100
00:33:37,100 --> 00:33:39,100
this up last time we did a

1101
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:40,100
survey and we asked people and

1102
00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:41,100
we did a charrette. We went

1103
00:33:41,100 --> 00:33:43,100
to a quesadilla making class.

1104
00:33:43,100 --> 00:33:44,100
You know, I brought this up

1105
00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:45,100
before, but I printed it

1106
00:33:45,100 --> 00:33:47,100
out because I love it so much.

1107
00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:49,100
And it's how to look at. We

1108
00:33:49,100 --> 00:33:51,100
should do public investment.

1109
00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:54,100
I'm going to bring this up.

1110
00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:56,100
Okay. It's humbly observe where

1111
00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:57,100
people

1112
00:33:57,100 --> 00:33:59,100
in the community struggle. Ask

1113
00:33:59,100 --> 00:34:01,100
the question, what is the next

1114
00:34:01,100 --> 00:34:02,100
smallest thing we can do

1115
00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:04,100
to address that struggle? The

1116
00:34:04,100 --> 00:34:06,100
next smallest thing,

1117
00:34:06,100 --> 00:34:08,100
do that thing right now. Do it

1118
00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:09,100
right. Don't do a report,

1119
00:34:09,100 --> 00:34:11,100
don't do a PDF,

1120
00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:12,100
don't hire contractors. Do it

1121
00:34:12,100 --> 00:34:14,100
right and then repeat. And I

1122
00:34:14,100 --> 00:34:16,100
love this because

1123
00:34:16,100 --> 00:34:17,100
in the instance

1124
00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:19,100
of the bike rack, it's a $200

1125
00:34:19,100 --> 00:34:20,100
bike rack on my street,

1126
00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:22,401
there's no bus bench,

1127
00:34:23,100 --> 00:34:24,100
so I put one in my front yard

1128
00:34:24,100 --> 00:34:26,100
across the street. Right. It's

1129
00:34:26,100 --> 00:34:27,100
just really small stuff that I

1130
00:34:27,100 --> 00:34:28,100
really want us to do and

1131
00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:29,100
to think about it,

1132
00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:31,100
because it makes the talent

1133
00:34:31,100 --> 00:34:32,100
look like we're doing stuff,

1134
00:34:32,100 --> 00:34:34,100
because we are. And it gets us

1135
00:34:34,100 --> 00:34:35,100
in that mentality of

1136
00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:36,100
incremental small improvement.

1137
00:34:36,100 --> 00:34:38,100
When we do this communication

1138
00:34:38,100 --> 00:34:40,100
strategy, this outreach,

1139
00:34:40,100 --> 00:34:41,100
you got a bunch

1140
00:34:41,100 --> 00:34:43,100
of comments that are mine

1141
00:34:43,100 --> 00:34:44,100
on that thing. And I can

1142
00:34:44,100 --> 00:34:45,100
guarantee you there are so many

1143
00:34:45,100 --> 00:34:47,100
of my comments on there,

1144
00:34:47,100 --> 00:34:49,100
you don't want to hear

1145
00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:50,100
from me anymore. You guys are

1146
00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:52,100
already bored. We need to be

1147
00:34:52,100 --> 00:34:53,100
out there at those sidewalks

1148
00:34:53,100 --> 00:34:55,401
where people are scared

1149
00:34:56,100 --> 00:34:57,100
to cross the street. We need

1150
00:34:57,100 --> 00:34:59,100
to be out there where there's

1151
00:34:59,100 --> 00:35:00,100
old people who might not speak

1152
00:35:00,100 --> 00:35:01,000
English and ask them,

1153
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,100
what's it like waiting

1154
00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:04,100
for a bus

1155
00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:05,100
without a bus stop bench? And

1156
00:35:05,100 --> 00:35:07,100
that's what we should also be

1157
00:35:07,100 --> 00:35:08,100
out there getting stuff because

1158
00:35:08,100 --> 00:35:10,100
it's very easy to be here doing

1159
00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:11,100
this. I'm sure whoever's

1160
00:35:11,100 --> 00:35:12,000
watching on Zoom is already

1161
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,100
logged off by now,

1162
00:35:13,100 --> 00:35:14,000
but I'm almost done here. And

1163
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,100
thank you, chair,

1164
00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:17,100
for this. I would like to. You

1165
00:35:17,100 --> 00:35:18,100
mentioned it a few times.

1166
00:35:18,100 --> 00:35:20,100
Level of traffic stress, which

1167
00:35:20,100 --> 00:35:21,100
I know you know about. I know

1168
00:35:21,100 --> 00:35:23,100
you know about. Bring that to

1169
00:35:23,100 --> 00:35:24,100
the front so people can

1170
00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:25,100
understand that that's how

1171
00:35:25,100 --> 00:35:27,100
people feel

1172
00:35:27,100 --> 00:35:28,100
on bicycle and walking. They

1173
00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:29,100
feel freaked out. Los is what

1174
00:35:29,100 --> 00:35:30,000
you guys use for roads. How

1175
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,000
quickly can a car move

1176
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,000
through town? But we've changed

1177
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,100
that one because now we need

1178
00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:34,000
levels of stress for the walker

1179
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,000
and the bicyclist and the

1180
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,000
grandma getting

1181
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,000
down the street.

1182
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,000
>> Right.

1183
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,100
>> How does she feel? So we

1184
00:35:39,100 --> 00:35:40,100
should, I think,

1185
00:35:40,100 --> 00:35:42,100
call that out.

1186
00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:43,100
>> So were you just suggesting

1187
00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:44,000
to highlight that,

1188
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,100
like more put it

1189
00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:46,100
in the front.

1190
00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:47,100
>> It's actually hiding

1191
00:35:47,100 --> 00:35:48,000
in the back as a footnote.

1192
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,000
>> Okay.

1193
00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:51,100
>> As a mention put

1194
00:35:51,100 --> 00:35:52,000
in the front. This is how a

1195
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,100
walker relates. This is how a

1196
00:35:53,100 --> 00:35:55,100
kid on their way to sixth grade

1197
00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:57,100
rides their bike. And this is

1198
00:35:57,100 --> 00:35:59,100
what they feel. Final couple

1199
00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:01,100
things and we're almost there.

1200
00:36:01,100 --> 00:36:03,100
Let me go here.

1201
00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:05,100
This is just

1202
00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:08,601
on page. Page numbers are kind

1203
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,100
of hard here. So that would be

1204
00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:13,100
38 is where this graph is.

1205
00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:15,100
Break that

1206
00:36:15,100 --> 00:36:17,100
into two different pages. Why

1207
00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:19,100
don't you do existing bike

1208
00:36:19,100 --> 00:36:20,100
lanes and then two proposed

1209
00:36:20,100 --> 00:36:22,100
bike lanes? Because to Cherry

1210
00:36:22,100 --> 00:36:24,100
Kibota's point is kind of hard

1211
00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:25,100
to read. This whole thing right

1212
00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:26,100
there. So just have two

1213
00:36:26,100 --> 00:36:28,100
different pages and we can

1214
00:36:28,100 --> 00:36:29,100
overlay it.

1215
00:36:29,100 --> 00:36:30,100
>> I thought we did have one

1216
00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:32,100
of just existing, and I don't

1217
00:36:32,100 --> 00:36:33,100
think we did propose

1218
00:36:33,100 --> 00:36:34,100
separately.

1219
00:36:34,100 --> 00:36:35,100
>> I think they're

1220
00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:37,100
all together in one page.

1221
00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:38,100
They're kind of hard

1222
00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:39,100
to read.

1223
00:36:39,100 --> 00:36:40,100
>> Okay. I thought

1224
00:36:40,100 --> 00:36:41,100
we included both,

1225
00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:42,100
but I'll make sure we.

1226
00:36:42,100 --> 00:36:44,100
>> This one right here and the

1227
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:45,100
same thing on page 39, it says

1228
00:36:45,100 --> 00:36:47,100
Crosswalk improvements and

1229
00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:49,100
sidewalk gaps. I'm unclear if

1230
00:36:49,100 --> 00:36:50,100
the sidewalk gaps are where

1231
00:36:50,100 --> 00:36:51,100
we're going to fix it or where

1232
00:36:51,100 --> 00:36:52,100
we see problems. So it's not

1233
00:36:52,100 --> 00:36:53,100
quite clear on that.

1234
00:36:53,100 --> 00:36:55,100
>> Okay, there.

1235
00:36:55,100 --> 00:36:56,100
>> Just kind of clarify that.

1236
00:36:56,100 --> 00:36:58,100
Almost done, guys. Thank you.

1237
00:36:58,100 --> 00:37:00,100
PLIS. Pedestrian leading

1238
00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:04,100
interval. Pedestrian lpi. LPI

1239
00:37:04,100 --> 00:37:05,100
leading interval.

1240
00:37:05,100 --> 00:37:06,100
>> Pedestrian interval.

1241
00:37:06,100 --> 00:37:07,100
>> So I went and crossed all

1242
00:37:07,100 --> 00:37:09,100
the crosswalks from here

1243
00:37:09,100 --> 00:37:11,100
over towards Raley's and back.

1244
00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:12,100
We've gotten public comment

1245
00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:14,100
in the past about that at

1246
00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:15,100
certain places. I think it's

1247
00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:17,100
Glenn Miller Way and

1248
00:37:17,100 --> 00:37:19,100
right across from Safeway.

1249
00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:20,100
>> Okay.

1250
00:37:20,100 --> 00:37:21,100
>> We've gotten it from all

1251
00:37:21,100 --> 00:37:22,100
these intersections right here.

1252
00:37:22,100 --> 00:37:25,100
I watched a middle schooler

1253
00:37:25,100 --> 00:37:26,100
almost get clobbered

1254
00:37:26,100 --> 00:37:27,100
on the way back. We need to

1255
00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:29,100
stop all the traffic and give

1256
00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:30,100
the small people and the slow

1257
00:37:30,100 --> 00:37:32,100
people a chance to get

1258
00:37:32,100 --> 00:37:33,100
out so they don't get hit

1259
00:37:33,100 --> 00:37:36,100
by a ram. 2500 turning right.

1260
00:37:36,100 --> 00:37:38,100
Because that's going

1261
00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:40,100
to happen. And I know we've

1262
00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:42,100
asked

1263
00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:43,100
for this before. I know some of

1264
00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:44,100
this might be a caltrans issue,

1265
00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:46,100
and in some of those.

1266
00:37:46,100 --> 00:37:47,100
But if we can push for that, we

1267
00:37:47,100 --> 00:37:48,100
do have a county supervisor

1268
00:37:48,100 --> 00:37:50,100
running for state office. That

1269
00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:51,100
guy loves to show up. So we can

1270
00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:52,100
ask him to show up and help us

1271
00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:53,100
increase the interval

1272
00:37:53,100 --> 00:37:55,100
for walkers to walk across,

1273
00:37:55,100 --> 00:37:57,100
because that really is a big

1274
00:37:57,100 --> 00:37:59,100
problem and that freaks

1275
00:37:59,100 --> 00:38:00,100
out a lot of people. So it's

1276
00:38:00,100 --> 00:38:01,100
Brook Road south at Glen Noah

1277
00:38:01,100 --> 00:38:03,100
Drive, Lakewood at Brooks

1278
00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:04,100
Road, South Windsor Road at

1279
00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:05,100
Windsor River Road, and then

1280
00:38:05,100 --> 00:38:07,100
that one, Conde Windsor. Weird

1281
00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:08,100
intersection with that,

1282
00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:09,100
I turn it back over

1283
00:38:09,100 --> 00:38:10,100
to the chair for a breath

1284
00:38:10,100 --> 00:38:13,100
of fresh air. Thank you.

1285
00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:16,100
>> Yes.

1286
00:38:19,100 --> 00:38:22,100
>> So I'm curious as to what we

1287
00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:23,100
define per se as a bicycle,

1288
00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:25,100
because I nearly got run over

1289
00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:27,100
by a motorized bike on the

1290
00:38:27,100 --> 00:38:29,100
smart trail this morning. So

1291
00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:31,100
trying to figure

1292
00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:33,100
out what's allowed

1293
00:38:33,100 --> 00:38:35,100
in all these areas. Is that

1294
00:38:35,100 --> 00:38:37,100
defined when you select a

1295
00:38:37,100 --> 00:38:39,100
Class 1 or Class 2 or Class 3?

1296
00:38:39,100 --> 00:38:41,100
Are they recommended users?

1297
00:38:41,100 --> 00:38:43,100
Because I feel

1298
00:38:43,100 --> 00:38:45,100
like there's a lot

1299
00:38:45,100 --> 00:38:46,100
of misunderstanding on where

1300
00:38:46,100 --> 00:38:47,100
certain things are allowed

1301
00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:49,100
to go, including myself. I do

1302
00:38:49,100 --> 00:38:51,100
have an E scooter. I haven't

1303
00:38:51,100 --> 00:38:52,100
tried it on the trail yet, but

1304
00:38:52,100 --> 00:38:53,100
I don't know if it's permitted.

1305
00:38:53,100 --> 00:38:56,100
But the motorized bike was

1306
00:38:56,100 --> 00:38:59,100
flying and I'm not sure if that

1307
00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:01,100
made sense. So I'm hoping we

1308
00:39:01,100 --> 00:39:02,100
consider the different modes of

1309
00:39:02,100 --> 00:39:04,100
transportation that we're

1310
00:39:04,100 --> 00:39:06,100
starting to see in our

1311
00:39:06,100 --> 00:39:08,100
community as we're building

1312
00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:09,100
out some of these connected

1313
00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:11,100
pathways.

1314
00:39:12,100 --> 00:39:14,100
>> That's a really good point.

1315
00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:15,100
I mean, I know I've certainly

1316
00:39:15,100 --> 00:39:17,100
heard that a lot in other

1317
00:39:17,100 --> 00:39:18,100
communities as well. E bikes.

1318
00:39:18,100 --> 00:39:20,100
And I believe that there's the

1319
00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:22,100
fastest E bikes I believe are

1320
00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:24,401
prohibited from trails. And

1321
00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:27,100
it's the. But even the slower

1322
00:39:27,100 --> 00:39:29,100
ones are not that slow.

1323
00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:31,100
>> So. But that's probably.

1324
00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:34,100
That probably is something we

1325
00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:37,601
should elaborate on a bit more.

1326
00:39:42,100 --> 00:39:45,100
I think that's an important

1327
00:39:45,100 --> 00:39:47,100
point.

1328
00:39:48,100 --> 00:39:50,100
>> Commissioner Richards.

1329
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:52,100
Nothing. All right.

1330
00:39:52,100 --> 00:39:54,100
>> See?

1331
00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:56,100
>> No additional questions and

1332
00:39:56,100 --> 00:39:59,601
we'll thank you for your. It's

1333
00:40:00,100 --> 00:40:03,100
a presentation. So we do not

1334
00:40:03,100 --> 00:40:04,100
generally.

1335
00:40:04,100 --> 00:40:05,100
>> I think the way we typically

1336
00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:06,100
do it is we have both

1337
00:40:06,100 --> 00:40:08,100
presentations and then comments

1338
00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:09,100
on those presentations would be

1339
00:40:09,100 --> 00:40:10,100
during the public comment

1340
00:40:10,100 --> 00:40:12,100
period that follows.

1341
00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:13,100
>> Okay.

1342
00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:14,100
>> Just here's my question. Do

1343
00:40:14,100 --> 00:40:16,100
if, if people don't want to see

1344
00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:17,100
if the second presentation.

1345
00:40:17,100 --> 00:40:19,100
Can we do public comment and

1346
00:40:19,100 --> 00:40:21,100
then presentation.

1347
00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:24,100
Or does that ruin the town of

1348
00:40:24,100 --> 00:40:25,100
Windsor?

1349
00:40:25,100 --> 00:40:26,100
>> The chair has that power.

1350
00:40:26,100 --> 00:40:28,100
>> I. I will wield it and I

1351
00:40:28,100 --> 00:40:29,100
think we'll open public comment

1352
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:30,100
for any comments specific

1353
00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:32,100
to the Windsor Active

1354
00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:33,100
transportation plan

1355
00:40:33,100 --> 00:40:35,100
at this time. Members

1356
00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:36,100
of public wishing

1357
00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:37,100
to address us

1358
00:40:37,100 --> 00:40:38,100
on this public comment,

1359
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:39,100
please limit your comments to

1360
00:40:39,100 --> 00:40:40,100
3 minutes. Speaking

1361
00:40:40,100 --> 00:40:42,100
to the microphone

1362
00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:44,100
from the podium.

1363
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,000
>> Great.

1364
00:40:56,100 --> 00:40:58,100
>> Thank you. I appreciate

1365
00:40:58,100 --> 00:41:00,100
that. I'm Emily Chartin. I'm

1366
00:41:00,100 --> 00:41:01,100
with the Sonoma County

1367
00:41:01,100 --> 00:41:02,000
Bicycle Coalition. So we're

1368
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,100
really happy to see this draft.

1369
00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:04,100
I know it's been W

1370
00:41:04,100 --> 00:41:06,100
Trans has been working on it

1371
00:41:06,100 --> 00:41:08,100
for a long time and especially

1372
00:41:08,100 --> 00:41:10,100
happy to see the emphasis on

1373
00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:12,100
creating a low stress connected

1374
00:41:12,100 --> 00:41:14,100
network. You know, quite

1375
00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:16,100
simply, people on bikes need

1376
00:41:16,100 --> 00:41:17,100
to be able

1377
00:41:17,100 --> 00:41:18,100
to get where they need to go,

1378
00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:20,100
whether it's school, downtown,

1379
00:41:20,100 --> 00:41:21,100
work, shopping. And that's both

1380
00:41:21,100 --> 00:41:24,100
for the health of the climate

1381
00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:25,100
and the community. Community

1382
00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:28,100
really happy to see the number

1383
00:41:28,100 --> 00:41:30,100
of Class 1 trails on the

1384
00:41:30,100 --> 00:41:31,100
proposed facilities list.

1385
00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:34,100
Those are the dotted green

1386
00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:36,100
lines. And also the number of

1387
00:41:36,100 --> 00:41:38,100
Class 4 projects

1388
00:41:38,100 --> 00:41:39,100
on the priority list. The bike

1389
00:41:39,100 --> 00:41:41,100
coalition believes the Class 4

1390
00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:42,100
protected facilities really

1391
00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:43,100
should be the default, you

1392
00:41:43,100 --> 00:41:45,100
know, as opposed to Class 2,

1393
00:41:45,100 --> 00:41:46,100
which are the unprotected

1394
00:41:46,100 --> 00:41:48,100
facilities that you tend

1395
00:41:48,100 --> 00:41:49,100
to see in cities and towns. I

1396
00:41:49,100 --> 00:41:51,100
will say that the Class 3

1397
00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:52,100
facilities are generally not

1398
00:41:52,100 --> 00:41:54,100
something we support because

1399
00:41:54,100 --> 00:41:55,100
you're asking bikes and cars

1400
00:41:55,100 --> 00:41:56,100
to share a travel lane. And for

1401
00:41:56,100 --> 00:41:57,100
many riders that's just not a

1402
00:41:57,100 --> 00:41:59,100
low stress situation. So we

1403
00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:00,100
would ask the town

1404
00:42:00,100 --> 00:42:02,100
to consider the possibility

1405
00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:04,100
of upgrading these facilities

1406
00:42:04,100 --> 00:42:06,100
to Class 2.

1407
00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:07,100
But if that's not possible,

1408
00:42:07,100 --> 00:42:09,100
you know,

1409
00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:11,100
traffic calming measures need

1410
00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:12,100
to be considered

1411
00:42:12,100 --> 00:42:14,100
to bring vehicle speeds down,

1412
00:42:14,100 --> 00:42:16,100
which is something that Barry

1413
00:42:16,100 --> 00:42:17,100
alluded to. So that traffic is

1414
00:42:17,100 --> 00:42:19,100
as slow as possible if they're

1415
00:42:19,100 --> 00:42:20,100
going to be sharing the road

1416
00:42:20,100 --> 00:42:21,100
with bikes. We're pleased that

1417
00:42:21,100 --> 00:42:22,100
the board is recognizing.

1418
00:42:22,100 --> 00:42:24,100
We're pleased that the plan is

1419
00:42:24,100 --> 00:42:25,100
recognizing the importance

1420
00:42:25,100 --> 00:42:27,100
of the Safe Routes to School

1421
00:42:27,100 --> 00:42:29,100
plan. Schools and access to

1422
00:42:29,100 --> 00:42:31,401
schools really should just

1423
00:42:32,100 --> 00:42:34,401
always be a priority

1424
00:42:35,100 --> 00:42:37,100
in building

1425
00:42:38,100 --> 00:42:40,100
out the bike and PED network.

1426
00:42:40,100 --> 00:42:42,100
As Tim mentioned, this is

1427
00:42:42,100 --> 00:42:44,100
really who we're building the

1428
00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:45,100
network for ultimately. And

1429
00:42:45,100 --> 00:42:47,100
lastly, I just want

1430
00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:49,100
to also make a pitch

1431
00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:51,100
for the return

1432
00:42:51,100 --> 00:42:52,100
of the bicycle and Pedestrian

1433
00:42:52,100 --> 00:42:54,100
Advisory committee, which I

1434
00:42:54,100 --> 00:42:55,100
know has undergone a little bit

1435
00:42:55,100 --> 00:42:57,100
of reorganization

1436
00:42:57,100 --> 00:42:59,100
in the past few months. But

1437
00:42:59,100 --> 00:43:01,100
having a robust advisory

1438
00:43:01,100 --> 00:43:02,100
committee I think is especially

1439
00:43:02,100 --> 00:43:04,100
important now that the town has

1440
00:43:04,100 --> 00:43:05,100
a draft and, you know,

1441
00:43:05,100 --> 00:43:07,100
you're going

1442
00:43:07,100 --> 00:43:08,100
to be shepherding it

1443
00:43:08,100 --> 00:43:10,100
through this process

1444
00:43:10,100 --> 00:43:12,100
of public review. So that's it.

1445
00:43:12,100 --> 00:43:14,100
Thanks.

1446
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,100
>> Anyone else wish to make a

1447
00:43:16,100 --> 00:43:17,100
public comment at this time?

1448
00:43:17,100 --> 00:43:19,100
We will close public comment.

1449
00:43:19,100 --> 00:43:20,100
>> If I could ask if you have

1450
00:43:20,100 --> 00:43:22,100
any written comments you could

1451
00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:23,100
provide to us because we would

1452
00:43:23,100 --> 00:43:24,100
like to move forward, forward

1453
00:43:24,100 --> 00:43:25,100
with this. One commissioner in

1454
00:43:25,100 --> 00:43:27,100
particular had a long list. I

1455
00:43:27,100 --> 00:43:28,100
don't know if it was a printed

1456
00:43:28,100 --> 00:43:30,100
list or just a marked up copy

1457
00:43:30,100 --> 00:43:31,100
B. But if you could provide us

1458
00:43:31,100 --> 00:43:33,100
with COP as soon as possible,

1459
00:43:33,100 --> 00:43:34,100
we would like to move forward

1460
00:43:34,100 --> 00:43:36,100
with it.

1461
00:43:36,100 --> 00:43:37,100
>> Fantastic.

1462
00:43:37,100 --> 00:43:38,100
>> Thank you.

1463
00:43:38,100 --> 00:43:39,100
>> Thank you both.

1464
00:43:39,100 --> 00:43:41,100
At this time, we will move on

1465
00:43:41,100 --> 00:43:42,100
to item 6.2, crime prevention

1466
00:43:42,100 --> 00:43:44,100
through environmental design.

1467
00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:46,100
Director Streeter.

1468
00:43:46,100 --> 00:43:47,100
>> Thank you, Chair.

1469
00:43:47,100 --> 00:43:50,100
At this time, I'd like to

1470
00:43:50,100 --> 00:43:52,100
introduce former commissioner

1471
00:43:53,100 --> 00:43:55,100
Lois Fisher, who will be giving

1472
00:43:55,100 --> 00:43:56,100
us a presentation on,

1473
00:43:56,100 --> 00:43:58,100
as you just mentioned,

1474
00:43:58,100 --> 00:44:00,100
the concept

1475
00:44:00,100 --> 00:44:01,100
of crime prevention

1476
00:44:01,100 --> 00:44:03,100
through environmental design,

1477
00:44:03,100 --> 00:44:05,100
also known as cpted.

1478
00:44:05,100 --> 00:44:08,100
>> Thank you, Patrick. I could

1479
00:44:08,100 --> 00:44:11,100
do it. Start slideshow. There

1480
00:44:11,100 --> 00:44:14,601
it goes. Okay, good. All right.

1481
00:44:16,100 --> 00:44:18,100
Well, it's very good

1482
00:44:18,100 --> 00:44:20,100
to be back. I was here for 13

1483
00:44:20,100 --> 00:44:23,100
years and so I definitely can

1484
00:44:23,100 --> 00:44:24,100
relate to all your activities

1485
00:44:24,100 --> 00:44:26,401
and concerns about our

1486
00:44:27,100 --> 00:44:28,100
community. I appreciate it. So

1487
00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:30,100
anyway, thank you. So Windsor

1488
00:44:30,100 --> 00:44:32,100
has been made safer each year

1489
00:44:32,100 --> 00:44:34,100
through zoning

1490
00:44:35,100 --> 00:44:37,100
since its incorporation. And

1491
00:44:37,100 --> 00:44:39,100
tonight's presentation is just

1492
00:44:39,100 --> 00:44:42,601
about how we've been doing it

1493
00:44:43,100 --> 00:44:45,100
and how it'll continue

1494
00:44:45,100 --> 00:44:47,100
in the future. So I'm an urban

1495
00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:49,100
designer and I create walkable

1496
00:44:49,100 --> 00:44:51,100
towns as an alternative

1497
00:44:51,100 --> 00:44:54,601
to suburban sprawl. So if you

1498
00:44:57,100 --> 00:44:59,401
don't like suburban sprawl,

1499
00:45:00,100 --> 00:45:02,100
I can help you. And so my work,

1500
00:45:02,100 --> 00:45:04,100
you can see it

1501
00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:06,100
on the bottom is the Petaluma

1502
00:45:06,100 --> 00:45:07,100
theater district. The

1503
00:45:07,100 --> 00:45:09,100
before pictures

1504
00:45:09,100 --> 00:45:11,100
on the left and then the

1505
00:45:11,100 --> 00:45:12,000
after pictures on the right.

1506
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,100
You can see that the trees are

1507
00:45:14,100 --> 00:45:15,000
on both of them. So it's

1508
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,000
completely different. Right.

1509
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,000
You can actually there are

1510
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,100
rules you can put in as

1511
00:45:19,100 --> 00:45:20,100
planners that create walkable

1512
00:45:20,100 --> 00:45:22,100
environments. So the topics to

1513
00:45:22,100 --> 00:45:23,100
be covered are crime prevention

1514
00:45:23,100 --> 00:45:25,100
through environmental design

1515
00:45:25,100 --> 00:45:26,100
and are these policies making

1516
00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:27,100
Windsor safer or not? And then

1517
00:45:27,100 --> 00:45:28,100
new policies

1518
00:45:28,100 --> 00:45:30,100
for crime prevention in

1519
00:45:30,100 --> 00:45:31,100
Windsor's new code. And then

1520
00:45:31,100 --> 00:45:32,100
two weeks from tonight,

1521
00:45:32,100 --> 00:45:34,100
I'll be back to talk

1522
00:45:34,100 --> 00:45:35,100
about the history of planning

1523
00:45:35,100 --> 00:45:36,100
for walkability in Windsor. So

1524
00:45:36,100 --> 00:45:38,100
crime prevention through

1525
00:45:38,100 --> 00:45:39,100
environmental design. CPTED is

1526
00:45:39,100 --> 00:45:40,100
also pronounced septed. Eyes

1527
00:45:40,100 --> 00:45:42,100
on, front on,

1528
00:45:42,100 --> 00:45:43,100
defensible space. Those are all

1529
00:45:43,100 --> 00:45:45,100
the same things. So it's

1530
00:45:45,100 --> 00:45:46,100
confusing. I will use all those

1531
00:45:46,100 --> 00:45:48,100
words interchangeably. One

1532
00:45:48,100 --> 00:45:49,100
that's different is back on.

1533
00:45:49,100 --> 00:45:51,100
Back on is the opposite

1534
00:45:51,100 --> 00:45:53,100
of it. So in this case,

1535
00:45:53,100 --> 00:45:54,100
on the left hand side, you can

1536
00:45:54,100 --> 00:45:56,100
see that this is the back

1537
00:45:56,100 --> 00:45:57,100
of the apartments, right?

1538
00:45:57,100 --> 00:45:59,100
These are the bedrooms. And

1539
00:45:59,100 --> 00:46:00,100
then this is supposed to be the

1540
00:46:00,100 --> 00:46:02,100
patio where they barbecue.

1541
00:46:02,100 --> 00:46:04,100
Right. And it's two feet

1542
00:46:04,100 --> 00:46:05,100
from the sidewalk. This is in

1543
00:46:05,100 --> 00:46:08,000
Wilson street in Santa Rosa.

1544
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,200
And so that's the back of the

1545
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,200
unit facing the public realm.

1546
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,200
And on the right you've got the

1547
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,200
front of the unit facing the

1548
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,200
public realm. So this person is

1549
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:17,200
acting as a police. He would

1550
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,200
never say he's A police

1551
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,200
officer.

1552
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:22,200
But if he saw a problem, he

1553
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,200
would call somebody and it

1554
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,200
would be taken care of. Here I

1555
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,200
talk with a lady who lived

1556
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:28,200
there and her daughter had one

1557
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,200
bedroom and she had the other

1558
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,200
bedroom. And at 3:30

1559
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,200
at night, there was someone

1560
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,200
throwing up outside

1561
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,200
of their bedrooms. So this is

1562
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,200
what happens when you have the

1563
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,200
most private part

1564
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,200
of the building right next

1565
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,200
to the most public part

1566
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,200
of the street. So in Windsor,

1567
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,200
we have made a concerted effort

1568
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,200
since incorporation

1569
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,200
to actually front on. And I

1570
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:50,200
know you guys have seen those,

1571
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,200
all those code messages. And

1572
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,200
just because I'm a planner,

1573
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,200
I'm going

1574
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,200
to give you the background.

1575
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,200
The constitution of Windsor is

1576
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,200
the general plan. So this is

1577
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,200
all in the general plan. It

1578
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,200
says active uses built up

1579
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,200
to the sidewalks. Public realm

1580
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,200
encouraging socializing,

1581
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,200
building facades

1582
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,200
behind sidewalks,

1583
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:11,200
providing eyes on. This is all

1584
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,200
taken care of

1585
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,200
in the general plan. And now

1586
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,200
thanks to Patrick Streeter and

1587
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:17,200
Kim Jordan, I'm not sure if

1588
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,200
she's here. We have it

1589
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:19,200
in our code.

1590
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,200
For the first time in like

1591
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,200
25, 30 years,

1592
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,200
we actually have it

1593
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,200
in the code. So thank you,

1594
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,200
Patrick. So this is what we

1595
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:27,200
have right now. And I'm going

1596
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,200
to be making some suggestions

1597
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:30,200
for additional things.

1598
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,200
But crime prevention is

1599
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,200
to improve safety by designing

1600
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,200
the physical environment

1601
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,200
to influence human behavior.

1602
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,200
So it's natural surveillance,

1603
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,200
looking out, eyes on natural

1604
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,200
access control gates,

1605
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,200
and territorial reinforcement,

1606
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,200
which means this is public,

1607
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,200
this is private,

1608
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:49,200
and you have stages between

1609
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,200
that poor person whose bedroom

1610
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:52,200
is right next

1611
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,200
to the sidewalk. You actually

1612
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,200
don't do that. So it's not

1613
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,200
comfortable, but it's actually

1614
00:47:58,200 --> 00:47:59,200
not safe either. So I have a

1615
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,200
poll for you guys. Say you have

1616
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:02,200
a child that you want

1617
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,200
to be safe walking to school.

1618
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,200
You have one option. They could

1619
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,200
walk along this street. This is

1620
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,200
the sidewalk right here. Or

1621
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,200
they could walk

1622
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,200
along this street

1623
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,200
on the right. So how many would

1624
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,200
prefer the one on the left?

1625
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:17,200
Raise your hand. Okay. How many

1626
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,402
prefer their child walking?

1627
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,200
The one on the right,

1628
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,200
you would. Okay. All right. So

1629
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,200
this is a different question.

1630
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,200
This is a creek. And so

1631
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,200
on both sides, the creek is

1632
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,200
on the right hand side. And

1633
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,200
then we've got a pathway and

1634
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,200
then we've got public areas.

1635
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,200
In this case it's a street with

1636
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,200
residential buildings facing

1637
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,200
onto the street and

1638
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,200
to the creek.

1639
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,200
In this case it's a fence

1640
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,200
with the houses behind it. So

1641
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,200
raise your hand if you want

1642
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,200
your child walking

1643
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,200
on the top one. And raise your

1644
00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:59,200
hand if you want your child

1645
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,200
working on the bottom one.

1646
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,200
Okay, so you guys actually

1647
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:03,200
already know your body knows

1648
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,200
how to create or what is a safe

1649
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:06,200
environment? So the question I

1650
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,200
have is, if we all know this,

1651
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,200
why have we been creating this

1652
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:12,200
stuff for absolute years?

1653
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,200
Right? And you go up

1654
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,200
to this one,

1655
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,200
why has this been happening?

1656
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,200
Why have this? Why does this

1657
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,200
continue? So anyway,

1658
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,200
I'm just going

1659
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,200
to give you a little bit

1660
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,200
of information

1661
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,200
on this pressing question. So

1662
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,200
why defensible space? So this

1663
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,200
is a pretty rough place. It's

1664
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,200
called Pruitt Igoe Towers. And

1665
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,200
you may not have heard it,

1666
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:38,200
but it's

1667
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,200
in the planning profession.

1668
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,200
It's kind

1669
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,200
of well known and what they did

1670
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,200
with it. Let's experiment. Why

1671
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,200
do towns

1672
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,200
like we've always done towns,

1673
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,200
we have car now,

1674
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,200
let's change everything. And so

1675
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,200
they made it so the bottom of

1676
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,200
these towers were open and

1677
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,200
there was no stoops, no fence

1678
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,200
jars, nothing, just nothing.

1679
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,200
So this entire area was nobody

1680
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,200
looking out for it. Right? No

1681
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,200
ownership, no fenced yards,

1682
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,200
no eyes on the ground floor,

1683
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,200
exterior areas. So all this

1684
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,200
which had been traditionally

1685
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,200
done, right, you have the

1686
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,200
public, you have the semi

1687
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,200
public, semi private at the

1688
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,200
porch and then the private,

1689
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,200
that's all a procession as you

1690
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,200
go in. None of that was done.

1691
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,200
So what do you think happened?

1692
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,200
They blew it up. They blew it

1693
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,200
up. This is how bad it was.

1694
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:34,200
People would not live there,

1695
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:35,200
they were dying there. So what

1696
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,200
happened,

1697
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:38,200
that was actually the birth of

1698
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,200
crime prevention was that

1699
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:41,200
destruction of that building.

1700
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:42,200
And so, so the defensible

1701
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,200
space, I said it before,

1702
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:45,200
I'm going to repeat it again.

1703
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,200
The physical expression of a

1704
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:48,200
social fabric that defends

1705
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,200
itself. So this is an example

1706
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,200
from Hercules. They also do the

1707
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:53,200
same thing we do here. And this

1708
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:54,200
is porches and this is

1709
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,200
on street parking. This is

1710
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,200
absolutely critical.

1711
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:58,200
To get these porches used,

1712
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,200
you have to have a car and then

1713
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:01,200
people coming up into these.

1714
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,200
So natural surveillance. And

1715
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:04,200
then these are the options for

1716
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,200
building design regarding the

1717
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:07,200
street. And this was the most

1718
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,200
popular for the child walking

1719
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,200
on the street. So

1720
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,200
in this case, the front of the

1721
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,200
building faces the street.

1722
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,200
In this case, the side of the

1723
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:19,200
building faces the street. You

1724
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,200
can see maybe there could be

1725
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,200
some eyes on as people walk

1726
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,200
to the side. But for the most

1727
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,200
part the street doesn't have

1728
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,200
any eyes on it. And then this

1729
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,200
is the red means it's not

1730
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:33,200
good. Just in case need

1731
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,200
to get that. But this is where

1732
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,200
it's the back,

1733
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:38,200
the absolute back

1734
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,200
of the building. It faces the

1735
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:41,200
most public area. That's the

1736
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,200
least safe. Crime prevention

1737
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:44,200
through environmental design.

1738
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:45,200
This is a great little diagram

1739
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:46,200
and it shows how

1740
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,200
to make it safe. You put

1741
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:48,200
Windows, you put porches and

1742
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:49,200
sidewalks where people can talk

1743
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:50,200
to each other and gain

1744
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,200
community. Then you define the

1745
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,200
public and the private areas

1746
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,200
by hedges or fences. But you

1747
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:55,200
don't let this all be a free

1748
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,200
for all like it is on Wilson

1749
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,200
Street. And then good

1750
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:00,200
pedestrian lighting. So the

1751
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,200
procession, I'm going

1752
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,200
to repeat again, it's public,

1753
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:06,200
the semi public, semi private,

1754
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,200
private. So this is that, that

1755
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,200
procession which is missing.

1756
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,200
And right now our current code

1757
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:13,200
is missing this defining the

1758
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,200
front yard. So that's going

1759
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,200
to be my suggestion

1760
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:17,200
to add that

1761
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,200
in the next code update. So

1762
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,200
these images are now

1763
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:22,200
in your zoning code. So there's

1764
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:23,200
one for the,

1765
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,200
for commercial as well. And so

1766
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,200
single family, eyes

1767
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:29,200
on solution. When Windsor

1768
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,200
started, it basically had three

1769
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,200
car garages and then you had

1770
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,200
to go around to the side

1771
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,200
to get to the front door. And

1772
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:38,200
so that is very bad for Izon

1773
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,200
because the cars in the car

1774
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:41,200
garage don't perform that

1775
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,200
function. So Windsor, we

1776
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,200
changed our code and made it so

1777
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:46,200
that you actually have

1778
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,200
to have the porch in the front

1779
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,200
and the garage and back. And

1780
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:51,200
in the latest update, that

1781
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,200
garage setback was reduced. So

1782
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,200
anyway,

1783
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:55,200
I just letting you guys know

1784
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,200
to watch out for that, just

1785
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:58,200
to see how it comes out. And if

1786
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,200
you want to go back, this big

1787
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:01,200
wear has been reduced and the

1788
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,200
defined front yards, we did it

1789
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:04,200
for years in Windsor and all

1790
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:05,200
the affordable housing. And it

1791
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:06,200
just needs to be put

1792
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,200
into the code. And if it's set

1793
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,200
back 10ft or more

1794
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:11,200
from the sidewalk,

1795
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,200
it should work. So this is that

1796
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,200
picture that. No, I think one

1797
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:16,200
person thought it was a good

1798
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,200
idea. But this is Apple

1799
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,200
Valley Lane. And has anybody

1800
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:21,200
heard of Apple Valley Lane?

1801
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,200
About 20 years ago,

1802
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,200
people were getting killed

1803
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,200
like once a month or

1804
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,200
down there. And so this is

1805
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,200
before picture. And then so our

1806
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:31,200
firm was called in

1807
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,200
to try and figure out how

1808
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:33,200
to fix this. And so we just did

1809
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,200
these things we're talking

1810
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:36,200
about here. We put

1811
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,200
in windows,

1812
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,200
we defined the edge of the

1813
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,200
street and the yard and we put

1814
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,200
in porches. Has anybody heard

1815
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,602
of a crime killing in Apple

1816
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,200
Valley Lane in the last 15

1817
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,402
years? It hasn't been

1818
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,200
happening. So all these things

1819
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,402
have been brought into

1820
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,200
Windsor's code and Santa Rosa

1821
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,200
has not. Just letting you know,

1822
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,200
Santa Rosa has not incorporated

1823
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:10,200
these things into their code.

1824
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,200
They just got rid of. They got

1825
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,200
rid of that problem. They just

1826
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,200
stopped. So anyway,

1827
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,200
this is a kind

1828
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:20,200
of an ironic question. This is

1829
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,200
our first new stoop in windsor

1830
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,200
in like 20 years. What do you

1831
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,200
think about the one

1832
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,200
on the left? Is it providing

1833
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,200
eyes on so.

1834
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,200
>> Let me ask you a question

1835
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:34,200
about that because I know where

1836
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,200
this,

1837
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,200
I think I know where this is.

1838
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,200
But we also had another project

1839
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,200
come to our commission recently

1840
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:43,200
and the first thing that came

1841
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,200
to mind is why would anybody

1842
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,200
want their front door

1843
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,200
on such a busy road? So this

1844
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,200
idea of having this duper eyes

1845
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,200
on these extremely busy roads,

1846
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,200
I am trying to understand how

1847
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,200
that's more safe.

1848
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,200
>> Okay.

1849
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:00,200
>> Because I feel concerned

1850
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,200
about having a front door and

1851
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,200
then people driving 40, 50

1852
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,200
miles an hour.

1853
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,200
>> That's a very good point.

1854
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:09,200
And so what you need to do is

1855
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,200
do traffic calming and that's

1856
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:12,200
park cars. And then when we did

1857
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,200
the Esposti park apartments

1858
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:15,200
right across from Esposti park,

1859
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,200
we actually put in one

1860
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:18,200
of those things that WW Trans

1861
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,200
was talking about. A traffic

1862
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,200
calming thing was like a hump

1863
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,200
and it really narrowed it down

1864
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,200
the streets. I'm not sure if

1865
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,200
you know what I'm talking

1866
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,200
about by a spy park.

1867
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,200
>> Anyway, by there I haven't

1868
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:33,200
noticed a speed hump. Well,

1869
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,200
it's

1870
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,200
like a calming hump in.

1871
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,200
>> The middle anyway, so I

1872
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,200
don't think it slows anybody

1873
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,200
down.

1874
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,200
>> It does. It actually really

1875
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,200
does, honestly. Anyway, I'm

1876
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,200
offering tours and I just want

1877
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:53,200
to say these are two

1878
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:54,200
dimensional pictures of three

1879
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,200
dimensional places and that's

1880
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:57,200
why I'm offering the tours

1881
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,200
because I would love

1882
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,200
to really get into detail with

1883
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:02,200
you and I could do that if we

1884
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,200
were standing in front of a

1885
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:05,200
Swastik park apartments. And

1886
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,200
it's very difficult for me

1887
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:09,200
to do it from here. So I would

1888
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,200
really love it if you guys,

1889
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,200
I know it's asking a lot,

1890
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,200
you'll have businesses and all

1891
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,200
that stuff,

1892
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,200
but that would be just great.

1893
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,602
And I could really talk about

1894
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,200
it and you can actually feel

1895
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,200
what it's like. So anyway,

1896
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:31,200
my suggestion here is that

1897
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,200
Windsor adds, we're treating

1898
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,200
stoops, our brand new stoops,

1899
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,200
as if they're balconies. And so

1900
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:38,200
we actually allow storage and

1901
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,200
stuff on the stoop. And so I'm

1902
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,200
just saying maybe we should

1903
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,200
clarify that in our revision

1904
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:46,200
to the code

1905
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,200
to make it very clear

1906
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:49,200
about conditions of approval,

1907
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,200
wherever it is,

1908
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,200
that you can't put storage on

1909
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,200
the ground floor stoop because

1910
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:56,200
that's eyes on. And

1911
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,200
unfortunately this is not going

1912
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,200
to get better because there's

1913
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:01,200
no parking required. So there's

1914
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:02,200
no reason for people to park

1915
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:03,200
their car and then go up the

1916
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:04,200
steps. It's kind of

1917
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,200
like this. Oh man, we got this

1918
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:07,200
close and then just a couple

1919
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:08,200
things didn't work out. So eyes

1920
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:09,200
on. Problem. The designer did

1921
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:10,200
not put a street next

1922
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,200
to the park. And so the back

1923
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:13,200
of the buildings face the park.

1924
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,200
Windsor did a good job here

1925
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,200
at Oakfield subdivision. I'm

1926
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:18,200
not sure if anybody's been

1927
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:19,200
there, but road

1928
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,200
along the park and then eyes

1929
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:22,200
on the park. This is a very

1930
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:23,200
interesting problem. This is

1931
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,200
the dead space

1932
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:26,200
behind the pool porch. There

1933
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:27,200
was a developer who asked me

1934
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,200
to come

1935
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:30,200
down and see his project. He

1936
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,200
was proposing projects here

1937
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,200
in Windsor. And so I looked

1938
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:35,200
at this and I'm like, oh my

1939
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,200
gosh, this is perfect, right?

1940
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,200
It's got all the procession,

1941
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,200
it's got all that.

1942
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,402
But there was nobody

1943
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,402
on the street. Absolutely

1944
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,200
nobody. It was no kids,

1945
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,200
nothing. And I'm like, it's

1946
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,200
like a neutron bomb had gone

1947
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:55,200
off. What the heck is going

1948
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,200
on here? And I found

1949
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:58,200
out you go in the door,

1950
00:57:58,200 --> 00:57:59,200
the garage is

1951
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:00,200
to the right here, right? This

1952
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:01,200
is a car. And then these are

1953
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:02,200
steps up. All the living is up

1954
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:03,200
there. So they didn't put the

1955
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:04,200
police officer in, they just

1956
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:05,200
put the police officers

1957
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:06,200
upstairs. So Windsor now has

1958
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:07,200
requirements for active uses.

1959
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:08,200
Behind the porch,

1960
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:09,200
you can't just put stairs,

1961
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:10,200
storage or bedroom. So that's

1962
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:11,200
just something that's

1963
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:12,200
protecting Windsor. Go ahead.

1964
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:13,200
>> If I can. So just

1965
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:14,200
to clarify,

1966
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:15,200
dead space means non used.

1967
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:16,200
Part of your house is

1968
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:17,200
behind the front of it, right?

1969
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:18,200
Like your living room's not

1970
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:19,200
there,

1971
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:20,200
your kitchen's not there. It's

1972
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:21,200
a junk room in the back.

1973
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:22,200
>> And some people say, well,

1974
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:23,200
bedrooms are fine,

1975
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:24,200
but you're only in the bedroom

1976
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:25,200
when it's dark.

1977
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:26,200
>> Right.

1978
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:27,200
>> So you can't really see it.

1979
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:28,200
So I don't think bedrooms are

1980
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:29,200
qualified as that.

1981
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:30,200
But so you guys know this one?

1982
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:31,200
This is Joe Wodota trail.

1983
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:32,200
Camping and garbage is an

1984
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:33,200
issue, of course. No eyes on.

1985
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:34,200
And then this is Vintage Oaks

1986
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:35,200
in Windsor. Just beautiful.

1987
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:36,200
And this is now considered a

1988
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,200
trail in the Windsor parks

1989
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:39,200
plan. So road next

1990
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:40,200
to the creek. And this is the

1991
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:41,200
trail that is the smart path.

1992
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:42,200
And when I took this picture,

1993
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,200
let me tell you, my heart was

1994
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:45,200
in my throat because I felt

1995
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:46,200
very vulnerable. And it was

1996
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:47,200
like there was no way out

1997
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,200
for me. Right? And I made a

1998
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:50,200
fine. But I'm just telling,

1999
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,200
even now I can reel it in me.

2000
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:53,200
So smart requires this six foot

2001
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,200
fence next to the rut tracks.

2002
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:56,200
If we do not put a road next

2003
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,200
to the tracks,

2004
00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:59,200
this is what ends up. So it

2005
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,200
ends up being an entrapment

2006
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,200
situation, which is not good.

2007
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,200
And compare this to Windsor

2008
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:07,200
Oaks or Windsor park

2009
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,200
apartments. It's right next to

2010
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:10,200
the train station that the

2011
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,200
tracks are right over here.

2012
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:13,200
You can see we put the street

2013
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:14,200
in and then the smart train has

2014
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,200
been putting the six foot

2015
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,200
fence. They've been

2016
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:19,200
putting fencing if there's an

2017
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,200
embankment or something people

2018
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:22,200
could fall off of.

2019
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:23,200
But if it's a situation

2020
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:24,200
like this where it's all flat,

2021
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:25,200
they don't put a fence. So in

2022
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,200
Windsor we have a much better.

2023
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:28,200
If we put the roads next

2024
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,200
to the tracks,

2025
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,200
we have a nice situation.

2026
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:33,200
There's a

2027
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,402
project called the Windsor

2028
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:37,200
Mill project and I think it's

2029
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,200
gone

2030
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,200
through two iterations so far.

2031
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:42,200
And I heard it's coming back.

2032
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:43,200
And so I just wanted to remind

2033
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:44,200
you guys that there is a creek

2034
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,200
on that. That is Windsor Creek

2035
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,200
needs to have eyes on. And then

2036
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:49,200
the railroad tracks also need

2037
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,200
to have eyes on. So just a

2038
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,200
place to be thinking about.

2039
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,200
And so this is that picture,

2040
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:58,200
one of the pictures

2041
00:59:58,200 --> 00:59:59,200
of the question,

2042
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,200
the poll question. So this is

2043
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:02,200
one of the places we're going

2044
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,200
to be looking at

2045
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:05,200
on the creek tour. And so this

2046
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,200
is where you have the front of

2047
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:08,200
the building's eyes onto the

2048
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,200
creek. And this is what is much

2049
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:12,200
more typical,

2050
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,200
which is the back next

2051
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,200
to the creek. And you see how

2052
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:17,200
different it looks and more

2053
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:18,200
crime, garbage,

2054
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,200
fires and encampments. And this

2055
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,200
is a right across

2056
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:23,200
from that picture you saw

2057
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,200
of the good Portola. This is

2058
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:26,200
right across the street. So

2059
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,200
it's a two different. It's

2060
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:29,200
actually three different

2061
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:30,200
treatments right there. So

2062
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:31,200
we're going

2063
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,200
to go there as well.

2064
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,200
But this is a tagged area.

2065
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:36,200
There's only one back

2066
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,200
on and that's where it is. And

2067
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:40,200
it got tagged within

2068
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,200
like a week of construction.

2069
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:43,200
So a lot of people say, well,

2070
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:44,200
we don't need to put the road

2071
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,200
against the creek. There's not

2072
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:47,200
much room. Let's just put open

2073
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:48,200
fencing. So this is a situation

2074
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,200
where the open fencing, it's

2075
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:51,200
like these are probably

2076
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,200
bedrooms, right? And maybe

2077
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:54,200
they'll have a barbecue once or

2078
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,200
twice in the summer. But this

2079
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:57,200
is not as good as the front

2080
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,200
of the house facing the creek

2081
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,200
in terms of safety. And

2082
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,200
Windsor faces a danger

2083
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:04,200
from fires coming

2084
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,200
down the hills

2085
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:07,200
along the trees and the creeks.

2086
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,200
We saw that in the Tubbs fire.

2087
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:10,200
So this is where that road

2088
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:11,200
along the creek at Portello

2089
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,200
stops. And do you think the

2090
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:14,200
firefighter is going to want

2091
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,200
to try and go

2092
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:17,200
in here and fight the fire?

2093
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,200
The trees are right next

2094
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:20,200
to the building. Right.

2095
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,200
Because the road is gone. So I

2096
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:23,200
just think where would they

2097
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,200
stage it anyway? This is just a

2098
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,200
cul de sac picture from the

2099
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,200
Internet, but you need hoses

2100
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:30,200
and places that puts up fire,

2101
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,200
fire trucks. And the street

2102
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:33,200
provides that. An ideal has

2103
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,200
anybody been to Thiessen

2104
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,200
Park? This little, the Garden

2105
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,200
Windsor Garden Club is here.

2106
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:44,200
And then there's a little

2107
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,200
bridge. It's right there.

2108
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:47,200
Yeah, it's just right

2109
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:48,200
over there.

2110
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:49,200
They took the

2111
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:50,200
existing creek and they

2112
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:51,200
actually fronted it

2113
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,200
on both sides. So

2114
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:54,200
on this side you have a street,

2115
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,200
it's actually little alley or

2116
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:57,200
little driveways.

2117
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,200
On this side you have it. So

2118
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,200
both sides you have eyes on.

2119
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:02,200
And this is where the smart

2120
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,200
station is going to be and this

2121
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,200
is where we're going to meet

2122
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:08,200
for the creek walks. So this is

2123
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,402
what it looks like

2124
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,200
on the ground. So you have a

2125
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:14,200
ready made park instead

2126
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,200
of having it be in the back

2127
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:17,200
of your house,

2128
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:18,200
which is a crime issue, it's

2129
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,200
in the front of your house. So

2130
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,200
it creates a much more valuable

2131
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,200
real estate. So summary, front

2132
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:25,200
of the buildings face the

2133
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:26,200
public realm. You got eyes on

2134
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,200
the street and ownership is

2135
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,200
defined all

2136
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,200
behind the sidewalk. So this is

2137
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:35,200
in the last update. This is my

2138
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,200
opinion,

2139
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:38,200
the wording got much weaker

2140
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,200
for public access

2141
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,200
along the creeks. We have one

2142
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:43,200
sentence that says to do it and

2143
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,200
then we've got a paragraph that

2144
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:47,200
says how to not do it. So

2145
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,200
anyway, just hoping,

2146
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:50,200
let's just watch

2147
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,200
to see how that works. And then

2148
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:53,200
so the cost of Windsor. So say

2149
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,200
a developer says it's too

2150
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,200
difficult, I can't face the

2151
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:58,200
creek, I have

2152
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,200
to back onto it. So these are

2153
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:01,200
the costs. Police expenses

2154
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,200
would go up, safety would go

2155
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,200
down and roads are permanently

2156
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:06,200
in place once it's approved.

2157
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,200
We tried that after the Tubbs

2158
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,200
fired redesign parts of

2159
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,200
Coffee Park. It was impossible.

2160
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,200
It's just not going

2161
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:15,200
to happen. So are these

2162
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,200
policies for eyes on making

2163
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:18,200
Windsor safer? And this is it

2164
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,200
from 2023 and Windsor is right

2165
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,200
here. You see that number 10.

2166
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,200
And we're in the company with

2167
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,200
Danville, Saratoga and

2168
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,200
Orinda. And I'm not sure if you

2169
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,200
guys know those places, but we

2170
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,200
are much more inclusive than

2171
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,200
they are,

2172
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,200
I'll put it that way. Okay, so

2173
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,200
it's widely recognized,

2174
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,200
I said as one

2175
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:42,200
of the safest places in

2176
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:43,200
California. I did not know it

2177
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,200
was widely recognized.

2178
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,200
But anyway, in this report they

2179
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:48,200
said it was due to local events

2180
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,200
and initiatives. And I just

2181
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:51,200
want to let everybody know that

2182
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,200
next time somebody asks you why

2183
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:54,200
are we so high on the list? If

2184
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,200
you could say something

2185
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:57,200
about crime prevention through

2186
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:58,200
environmental design it would

2187
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,200
be just great because I don't

2188
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,200
think it's parades and safety

2189
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,200
impacts. So if you do all these

2190
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:05,200
things what happens? Well, they

2191
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,200
study them and if you just do a

2192
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:08,200
few, you get 17%. If you do a

2193
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,200
lot, you get 76% reduction

2194
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,200
in crime. That just explains

2195
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,200
Apple Valley Lane and the cost

2196
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,402
savings for Windsor. Windsor

2197
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:18,200
pays the lowest amount per

2198
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,200
capita for police services,

2199
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,402
yet crime rates are 39%

2200
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,200
below average. So the average

2201
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,200
county,

2202
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:28,200
the county resident pays 346

2203
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,200
and we pay 227. We save $3

2204
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,200
million a year

2205
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,200
in police costs alone. And this

2206
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:37,200
was interesting. I'm not sure

2207
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,200
you guys saw this. This was

2208
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,200
in the paper in October

2209
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:42,200
of this year and it says

2210
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,200
WalletHub ranks four North Bay

2211
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:45,200
cities among the best in the

2212
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,200
U.S. well, Windsor was

2213
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:48,200
on there. And guess why

2214
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:51,200
Windsor was on there. Spurred

2215
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:52,200
by its favorable safety rating.

2216
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,200
This is economic development,

2217
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,200
guys, right? And then the

2218
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,402
letter from Police Chief

2219
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,200
Pacini last October to the

2220
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,402
planning commission. I have

2221
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,200
noticed on creeks

2222
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,200
with a road allowing visibility

2223
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,200
for part of it, the place where

2224
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:18,200
the road ends is where we

2225
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:19,200
experience policing problems.

2226
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,200
He's all. And Tanya Potter and

2227
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:22,200
him are both lockstep. This is,

2228
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,200
this is the way to go. So

2229
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,200
anyway, all these things, I've

2230
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:27,200
gotten a little handout which

2231
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,200
we're going to give

2232
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,200
to you and then also

2233
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:32,200
on the handout if you want

2234
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,200
to enter term as commissioner

2235
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:35,200
to increase Windsor safety

2236
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:36,200
to continue this road that

2237
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:37,200
we're

2238
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,200
on single loaded streets front

2239
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:40,200
on walkable fringes and

2240
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:41,200
on street parking, don't forget

2241
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,200
that piece because they won't

2242
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:44,200
use the front of the house if

2243
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:45,200
they don't have that. So I just

2244
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:46,200
want to let you know there are

2245
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,200
creek tour signups and if you

2246
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:49,200
could have. I'm not sure if you

2247
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:50,200
guys are interested or too

2248
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,200
busy, whatever, but I gave you

2249
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:53,200
quite a large selection.

2250
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:54,200
Patrick sent out an email and

2251
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,200
see if you just sign up

2252
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:57,200
for a time that works

2253
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:58,200
for you and then there's going

2254
01:05:58,200 --> 01:05:59,200
to be another walk

2255
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:00,200
after the walking tour,

2256
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:01,200
which is. That's the one where

2257
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,200
we'll do the actual more

2258
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:04,200
of the frontages. So I think

2259
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,200
that's the last slide. Yeah,

2260
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:07,200
that's the last slide. So

2261
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,200
that's it.

2262
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:10,200
>> Great.

2263
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:11,200
>> Thank you very much at this

2264
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,200
time we will bring it back

2265
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:14,200
to the commission for questions

2266
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,200
or comments.

2267
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:18,200
>> I think the only comment

2268
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:19,200
I'll make is

2269
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:20,200
about the creeks because a few

2270
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,200
of us went on a creek tour tour

2271
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:23,200
a couple weeks ago and we

2272
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,200
looked at some maps and I think

2273
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:26,200
the one thing that surprised me

2274
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:27,200
the most was it was very

2275
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,200
sporadic in

2276
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,200
between which was town owned,

2277
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:35,200
privately owned, water agency,

2278
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,200
county parks and how some

2279
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,402
of these developments manage.

2280
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,200
Working around some

2281
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,200
of that kind of stuff. So I

2282
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,200
think that was the most

2283
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,200
intriguing part or

2284
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:50,200
under knowledge that I gathered

2285
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,200
from the creek tour that we did

2286
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:53,200
just recently was just how much

2287
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,200
of it is actually privately

2288
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:57,200
owned.

2289
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:58,200
>> Thank you, sir. I invited

2290
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,200
Shannon from the public works

2291
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,200
department because I thought

2292
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,200
he'd be interested in this.

2293
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,200
When I saw his report, I

2294
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,200
thought, boy, if we had roads

2295
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,200
along the creeks,

2296
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,200
it'd be very clear who owns

2297
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:14,200
what, right? I mean,

2298
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,200
this is a picture

2299
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:17,200
of it. I mean, it wouldn't be

2300
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,200
confusing anymore if you had it

2301
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:20,200
on both sides. So anyway, I

2302
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:22,200
think that would solve that

2303
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:23,200
problem. I don't know if it

2304
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:25,200
would, but I think it might

2305
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,200
help.

2306
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:28,200
>> I have a quick question.

2307
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:29,200
Thank you for this. Very

2308
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,200
informative. Thank you. And I

2309
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:32,200
know in the past when I've

2310
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:34,200
heard things like front on,

2311
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:35,200
back on, it was kind

2312
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,200
of confusing. So I'm glad that

2313
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:38,200
we laid this out. And I'd

2314
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:39,200
encourage town staff to make

2315
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,200
sure we have examples when we

2316
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:42,200
talk about it for newer

2317
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:43,200
commissioners who aren't as

2318
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:44,200
smart as me, which will be

2319
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,200
actually smarter than me. You

2320
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,200
mentioned the garage setbacks

2321
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:49,200
were reduced in the zoning. Do

2322
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,200
you remember what they were

2323
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:52,200
reduced from?

2324
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,200
>> And, well, it's like they

2325
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:55,200
were measuring originally

2326
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,200
from the building, like a 10

2327
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,200
foot setback. Correct me if I'm

2328
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,200
wrong, Patrick, but 10ft from

2329
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,200
the building and then moved it

2330
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,200
to 10ft from the front

2331
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:07,200
of the porch.

2332
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,200
>> Okay, so there might be a

2333
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:10,200
difference.

2334
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:11,200
>> In where we're five feet.

2335
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,200
Drawing the chart five feet

2336
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:14,200
closer to the. So there's used

2337
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:15,200
to be five feet between the

2338
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,200
house and the garage,

2339
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:18,200
and now it's more like 5, 10ft

2340
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:19,200
to 5ft. So I'm just saying,

2341
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:20,200
just make a note to. That we

2342
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:21,200
know not to put it in front

2343
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,200
of the house, but, you know,

2344
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:24,200
where is that actual. You've

2345
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:25,200
reduced it. Just letting you

2346
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,200
know you've made. You've made a

2347
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:28,200
concession.

2348
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:29,200
>> Okay, thank you. I

2349
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,200
just want to know. Thank you.

2350
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:32,200
>> I can send

2351
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:33,200
around an email with specifics

2352
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:34,200
on what change in the zoning

2353
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:35,200
order. I don't think we

2354
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:36,200
actually reduced the standard

2355
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:37,200
by. But I think we changed what

2356
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:38,200
the options are.

2357
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:39,200
>> Okay, my stand corrected

2358
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:40,200
there. And I just want

2359
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:41,200
to make a note that Tim sat

2360
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:42,200
down with me for two hours and

2361
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:43,200
helped me get rid of all

2362
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:44,200
of the jargon

2363
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,200
in this lecture. So I hope it

2364
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,200
was gone anyway, so please sign

2365
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,200
up for the tours. I'll try

2366
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,200
and make it as fun as possible.

2367
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:54,200
Just three stops for both

2368
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:55,200
of them. And then you just look

2369
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,200
around, ask all the questions.

2370
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,200
Okay, thank you.

2371
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:02,200
>> Well, thank you very much.

2372
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:03,200
At this time we'll move

2373
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,200
into the public comment item.

2374
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,200
Members of the public wishing

2375
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,200
to address the commission on

2376
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:12,200
any consent calendar item or

2377
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:13,200
any item not listed

2378
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:14,200
on the agenda may do so

2379
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,200
at this time. Pursuant to the

2380
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:17,200
Brown act, the Commission is

2381
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:18,200
not allowed to consider issues

2382
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:19,200
or take action

2383
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,200
on any item not listed

2384
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:22,200
on the agenda

2385
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:23,200
during this period. Each public

2386
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,200
comment is normally restricted,

2387
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:26,200
restricted to three minutes

2388
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:27,200
in length and must be spoken

2389
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,200
into the microphone

2390
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:32,200
from the podium. If you wish

2391
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:33,200
to speak

2392
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:34,200
on a consent calendar item,

2393
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,200
please notify the chair

2394
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:37,200
during the public comment.

2395
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:39,200
Looks like we have one.

2396
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:40,200
>> Thank you.

2397
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:41,200
>> All right. Good evening

2398
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:42,200
Commission. My name is Kevin

2399
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:43,200
Scanlon, currently a 27 year

2400
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:44,200
resident of the town of

2401
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,200
Windsor, Windsor Creek

2402
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:47,200
residential elementary school

2403
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:48,200
neighborhood. I've been

2404
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,200
in the government Realm for

2405
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:51,200
over 40 years and educated

2406
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:52,200
for 26 years. I was a volunteer

2407
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,200
for 16 years at Windsor High

2408
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,200
School. Tonight's quote is just

2409
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,200
incredible. I was in front

2410
01:09:58,200 --> 01:09:59,200
of you in January

2411
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,200
to provide you fair warning

2412
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:03,200
of the horrific saga

2413
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,200
about the Windsor Creek

2414
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:06,200
elementary site involving the

2415
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,200
ever popular Gallagher

2416
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:09,200
Gallagher Homes, their famous

2417
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,200
CEO who have been who have

2418
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,200
duped the Windsor Unified

2419
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:14,200
School District into believing

2420
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,200
they could be long term

2421
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,200
business partners. Here's a

2422
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,200
glimpse. Windsor Unified

2423
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:22,200
School District has entered an

2424
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:24,200
exclusive negotiating agreement

2425
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:26,200
with Gallaher Homes, all

2426
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:27,200
of which were negotiated

2427
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,200
with closed sessions. Gallaher

2428
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,200
is to tear down Windsor Creek

2429
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,200
elementary at a minimum cost

2430
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:34,200
to WSD and

2431
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,200
with the WS USD whining

2432
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,200
about the $2.5 million

2433
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,200
demolition and some asbestos

2434
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,200
mitigation to be performed.

2435
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,200
But the WUSD will get royalties

2436
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:45,200
from some

2437
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,200
of the apartments and monies

2438
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,200
from the sale of the property

2439
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:50,200
to Gallaher. But don't worry,

2440
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,200
Gallaher to the rescue because

2441
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,200
of the insane wealth

2442
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:55,200
of the company. They will pay

2443
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:56,200
for the property and mitigate

2444
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,200
all to the to get the rights

2445
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,200
to build a four story 368 high

2446
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,402
density apartments that the

2447
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,200
Sonoma County Fire Department

2448
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:09,200
can't effectively fight fire or

2449
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,200
conduct rescue operations to

2450
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,200
the fourth floor because their

2451
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,402
ladder trucks operations can

2452
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:18,200
only reach the third floor.

2453
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,200
Side note,

2454
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,200
most school districts with

2455
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:23,200
similar surplus properties are

2456
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,200
selling their properties

2457
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:26,200
to the city, town or county at

2458
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:27,200
fair market prices so the

2459
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:28,200
property can be turned into

2460
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,200
sports and media complexes

2461
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,200
because of the existing sport

2462
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,200
amenities etc. The California

2463
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,200
Teachers association advocates

2464
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,200
advocates for sales

2465
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:40,200
of properties to the town, city

2466
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:41,200
and counties because they know

2467
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,200
this will be a great. This will

2468
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:44,200
be great for communities and

2469
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,200
the children and adolescents

2470
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:47,200
within. So the Cora Creek

2471
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,200
apartments are

2472
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,200
of the same design

2473
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:52,200
but situated

2474
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,200
along the west side of

2475
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:55,200
Armando Renzulo Way which is

2476
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:56,200
the entrance road to Windsor

2477
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:57,200
Creek elevation elementary

2478
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:58,200
property where one house stood

2479
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,200
on 3.68 acres. Gallaher wants

2480
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,200
106 apartments

2481
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:03,200
in a four story configuration.

2482
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:04,200
Of course the application is

2483
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,200
already filed in the town of

2484
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:08,200
Windsor planning department

2485
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:10,200
that is being prepared

2486
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:11,200
for this commission to deal

2487
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:12,200
with

2488
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,200
in a future commission meeting.

2489
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,200
However, the project gets

2490
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:17,200
flawed from the height

2491
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,200
to cequa to forced on street,

2492
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,200
park, parking, etc all of which

2493
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:24,200
will drain will be a drain

2494
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:27,200
to the town resources at every

2495
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:29,200
level including police and fire

2496
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:31,402
functions. Yep, as forewarned,

2497
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:33,200
Gallagher is ready

2498
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,402
to start his trifecta

2499
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:37,200
of building first the Cora

2500
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,200
Creek Apartments, then

2501
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:41,200
Windsor Creek elementary demise

2502
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:43,200
and the highly suspected huge

2503
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:44,200
property on the east side

2504
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:45,200
of old Redwood highway north

2505
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,200
of the Bell Village commercial

2506
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,200
commercial property that also

2507
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,200
houses Gallagher's Windsor base

2508
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,200
operations. I thank you for

2509
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,200
your time and your

2510
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:56,200
consideration tonight.

2511
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:59,200
>> Thank you. See no others

2512
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:04,200
lined up for public comment.

2513
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,200
We will close public comment

2514
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,200
at this time. Moving on

2515
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:09,200
to item number eight,

2516
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:11,200
the consent calendar. Consent

2517
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:12,200
calendar items are viewed as

2518
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:13,200
routine in nature and require

2519
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,200
little or no further discussion

2520
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:16,200
by the commission, public or

2521
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:17,200
applicants and will be acted

2522
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,200
upon through a single motion.

2523
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:20,200
We only have one item

2524
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:21,200
on the consent calendar. That

2525
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:22,200
is the approval

2526
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:23,200
for the regular meeting minutes

2527
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,200
of March 11, 2025. Do we have a

2528
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:26,200
motion for approval?

2529
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:27,200
>> Move to approve.

2530
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:28,200
>> We have a motion. Do we have

2531
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:29,200
a second?

2532
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:30,200
>> Second.

2533
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,200
>> Secretary May. And we have a

2534
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,200
roll call vote.

2535
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:36,200
>>[CALLING ROLL]

2536
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:42,200
>> Thank you.

2537
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:44,200
>> Moving on to item nine,

2538
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:45,200
public hearing. We have none

2539
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:46,200
scheduled at this time. Item

2540
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:47,200
10 for a regular calendar.

2541
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,200
Also none scheduled

2542
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,200
at this time. Moving to item

2543
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:53,200
11, written communications. Do

2544
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:54,200
any commissioners have any

2545
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,200
written communication they'd

2546
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:57,200
like

2547
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,200
to acknowledge receiving? None

2548
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:01,200
at this time. Moving to item

2549
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:02,200
12, commissioner comments.

2550
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,200
Commissioners have comments.

2551
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,402
>> It says, including reports,

2552
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,200
meetings and conferences and

2553
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:11,200
activities

2554
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,200
in miscellaneous agencies. And

2555
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:14,200
I did go have coffee and

2556
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,200
chitchat with Tim Massey. He

2557
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,200
wanted to give a presentation

2558
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,200
on the Quail Acres project and

2559
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:21,200
it was just his overview

2560
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,200
of trying to get me up to speed

2561
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,200
as the newest commissioner

2562
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,200
of what they've done so far

2563
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,200
at this commission. It's pretty

2564
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:31,200
brief and pretty informational.

2565
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:34,200
>> All right, Moving on. Item

2566
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:36,200
12.2, Commission request

2567
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,200
for future agenda items

2568
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:44,602
at this time. Seeing none. We

2569
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,402
will close item 12. Item 13,

2570
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:50,200
the Community Development

2571
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:52,200
Director's report. Director

2572
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:53,200
Streeter.

2573
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,200
>> Thank you, Chair. A couple

2574
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:56,200
things. One, all the members of

2575
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,200
the commission should have

2576
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,200
received an invitation

2577
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:01,200
to next week's workshop Voices

2578
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:04,200
of Windsor. It'll be held here.

2579
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We'll have various town

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01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:07,200
officials. I believe Shannon

2581
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,200
and I will be there as well as

2582
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:10,200
many members of the council. I

2583
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:11,200
would strongly encourage,

2584
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,200
if you're available, to have

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01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:14,200
commission members present too.

2586
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,200
It would really enhance the

2587
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:18,200
evening for everyone. Also, the

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01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:19,200
CNU 33, the Congress for the

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01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,402
New Urbanists Urbanism is

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01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,200
coming up. So I have previously

2591
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,200
asked if there's any interest

2592
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:28,200
on the commission,

2593
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:30,200
please let me or Amanda know if

2594
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,200
you're interested

2595
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,200
in attending this year.

2596
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:37,200
>> Yes, that's a good idea.

2597
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,200
>> Yeah.

2598
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:44,200
>> It begins on June 11th and

2599
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:45,200
it's usually a three day

2600
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:47,200
conference. Providence East

2601
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,200
Coast. Also, we are polling

2602
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,200
for a potential special meeting

2603
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:56,200
at the end of April, April

2604
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:59,200
29th. So if you haven't

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01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:02,200
responded to the request from

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01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:05,200
Amanda, please do so. And then

2607
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,200
just some upcoming items. We

2608
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:10,200
have our next meeting April

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01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:14,200
8th. We'll have Ms. Fisher back

2610
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:16,200
for for her second presentation

2611
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:18,200
which will be history of

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01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:20,200
Planning in Windsor since

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01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,200
Incorporation. We'll also have

2614
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:24,200
some public hearings

2615
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:26,200
on that agenda,

2616
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:28,200
including the old Redwood

2617
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:29,200
Highway Villages project which

2618
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,200
is gearing up

2619
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,200
for construction, but they have

2620
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:35,200
a minor modification

2621
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:37,200
to the resolution of approval

2622
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,200
to request that has to do with

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01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:41,200
second story windows as well as

2624
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:42,200
a comprehensive sign program

2625
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:43,200
amendment for the Lakewood

2626
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:45,200
Shopping Center. This is

2627
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:47,200
on behest of the upcoming

2628
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,200
Dollar Tree tenant which is

2629
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:51,200
moving in and

2630
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,200
on council agendas. April 16th

2631
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:55,200
we have heritage park fee

2632
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:57,200
deferral agreement. So

2633
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,200
Heritage park,

2634
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:02,200
the project has been approved

2635
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:04,200
by the commission. They've

2636
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,200
returned

2637
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,200
to the council several times

2638
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:09,200
for some financing strategies.

2639
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:11,200
One of those was a deferral

2640
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,200
of fees. They've asked

2641
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:14,200
for some amendments

2642
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:16,200
to that deferral. The council

2643
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:18,200
was open

2644
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:20,200
to that and so have asked staff

2645
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:22,200
to come back with a prepared

2646
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:23,200
resolution that would approve

2647
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,200
that. So hopefully with that

2648
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,200
in place, we'll see that

2649
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:28,200
project finally penciled

2650
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:29,200
out and start construction.

2651
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:30,200
And then lastly on May 21,

2652
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,200
which seems like a ways away,

2653
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:33,200
but it'll be here soon,

2654
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,200
we'll have our annual report on

2655
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:36,200
the housing element and the

2656
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:38,200
general plan. And that

2657
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:39,200
concludes my report. Thank you.

2658
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:41,200
>> Thank you very much. At this

2659
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:42,200
time we will adjourn the

2660
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,200
meeting. The next regular

2661
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:45,200
meeting of the Planning

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01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:46,200
commission is scheduled for

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01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:47,200
Tuesday, April 8, 2025

2664
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:49,200
at 5:30pm and will be held

2665
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:50,200
in the council chambers located

2666
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:51,200
at 9291 Old Redwood highway,

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01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,200
building 400 Windsor.