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>> We're going to call

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to order a meeting of the

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Planning Commission of July

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14th, 2026. Madam Secretary,

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roll call, please.

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>> Thank you. Vice Chair

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Zahner, would you lead us

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in the pledge?

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>> Fortino Dickson just

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messaged. She's

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on her way.

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>> Okay, thank you.

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>> I pledge allegiance to the

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Flag of the United States of

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America and to the Republic

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for which it stands,

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one nation under God,

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indivisible,

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with liberty and justice

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for all.

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>> Thank you. Moving on

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to item number 4, our

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conflict-of-interest

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declaration. Do any

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commissioners have a conflict

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>> No.

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>> Seeing none. Changes

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to the agenda, Director

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Schroeder, are there any

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changes tonight?

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>> We have no changes

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to the director, Chair.

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>> Thank you.

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>> I still have a job. Moving

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on to item number 6.1, our

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presentation. On the general

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plan land use and zoning

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designation for 8955 Condie

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Lane, Windsor Creek

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Elementary. Director

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Streeter, presentation,

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please.

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>> Thank you, Chair, members

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of the Planning Commission.

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So, the item right now is

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on request of the Commission, a

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brief discussion of the

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Lane. And how that would relate

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to regulatory controls that are

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on the property,

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including the General Plan,

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land use designation,

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and the zoning. So, the purpose

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of this presentation is

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to talk about the General

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what the zoning code is,

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and then how it applies

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to this site. To talk about

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what the planning process would

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be for residential development

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on the site.

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to discuss other forms

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of regulation that we have

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for land uses, including the

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Quality Act and state law. And

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then outline opportunities for

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community engagement should a

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proposal be analyzed to change

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what the designation is

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for that site. And obviously

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specifically. We'll just be

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about residential development

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on the site. Part of this is

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application yesterday. So,

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staff hasn't had any time to

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review what's being proposed.

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it would be premature for the

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Planning Commission to discuss

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the site is the location of the

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former or the former location

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Elementary School. The

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buildings are still there, but

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school. It's approximately

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connects up to Condie Lane. It

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the actual waterway. And it's

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to transit-oriented development

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and development that we'd like

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to see in our downtown or

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within proximity to transit.

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for the site is public,

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quasi-public, which generally

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means institutional uses or

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public uses. Recreation and

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parks are allowed uses

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allowed and other type of civic

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buildings or civic land uses.

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that residential uses are not a

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permitted use within that land

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use designation. The way that

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the zoning code and the

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General Plan work together

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roadmap for how the town

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envisions the development

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occurring. And the zoning are

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the rules that are in place

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to realize that vision. So, the

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zoning implements the General

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institutional. And it, again,

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allows the types of land uses

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that I just described that we

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envision for the site in the

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General Plan. It does not allow

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residential development.

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constraints. There's a flood

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hazard overlay. And as I

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mentioned, the zoning kind

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of sets the rules. So, what

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of buildings are allowed, what

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heights, the intensity,

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to the property line, things

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like that, in addition

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to the actual land use,

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are all regulated by the zoning

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code. I mentioned the property

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is also within the Station

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Area Plan. The plan is meant

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to implement a special type

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of development that we'd like

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to see occurring close

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to transit. This is in concert

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with state guidance as well as

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regional planning to try to

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locate the highest densities

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and intensities and diversity

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of land uses

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in areas that are easy

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to access easy to access both

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by car but also by transit and

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pedestrian and bicycle and

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other modes. And it's worth

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of updating the Station Area

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grant-funded process,

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and we're expecting it to take

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about a year. As I mentioned,

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it just kicked off. And it's

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really to update the plan

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to better align with best

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practices that we've learned

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for the areas around transit.

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over a year now with having

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transit service coming

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to downtown Windsor. And an

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example I like to give is that

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the previous station area plan

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had a lot of our downtown

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square footage dedicated

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to office uses, which at the

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now that we realize the

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dynamics of land use

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in the current age, we need

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to rethink some things. So,

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of those things that's going

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to be considered is the types

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of this process is considering,

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is the current designation

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appropriate? Would the town

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designation there? What would

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encourage everyone in the room

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to participate

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in this process. We do have a

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meeting scheduled right for

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in this room next Monday from

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very quick surveys

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3-question surveys that we've

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intercept surveys. So, I've

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on the train platform, walking

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just a couple quick questions

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about how people use the

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if at all. So, I encourage

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everyone to just fill out those

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quick surveys if you can and

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drop them in the basket. It

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helps our planning process.

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Be engaged and be a part

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of this process. So, I did

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mention we have received a

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preliminary application

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for development on the

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we have not completed any

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review of whether it's a

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complete application,

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what's being proposed,

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analysis of how it aligns

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with or does not align

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with the town's regulations.

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to discuss it at this time. But

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application. There's no set

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at the end of the slideshow,

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I do have information

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for how members of the public

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community can review that

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project and comment

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There are no approvals set

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to take place at this time.

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We've just received that

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preliminary application.

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There's also been a lot

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of talk about streamlining,

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allowing development to move

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around the town's general plan

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and zoning. So, I did want

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to bring up 2 relevant pieces

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of legislation, AB 2295 and

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1021, which are essentially

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referred to as workforce

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housing streamlining

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for schools. And they do not

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exempt school housing

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school-based housing projects.

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What they do is

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for projects that are in line

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with the state criteria, they

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require a local jurisdiction

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to find them consistent

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with the zoning and consistent

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with the general plan. So, I

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mentioned earlier that there's

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that residential is not an

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allowed land use in the

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General Plan for this area. A

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project that met the standards

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set forth through these pieces

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of legislation would be

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determined by the state

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to be consistent with the

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General Plan even though it's

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not an allowed land use.

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For the Windsor Creek

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Residential Development

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Project that was received,

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looking

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through that application, it

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does include as requests a

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general plan amendment,

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and a rezoning. So,

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at this time, there is no

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indication that a residential

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development on that site would

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invoke the state law. All

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indicators right now point

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to it going through the

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standard process that's

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required for any time you

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propose residential in an area

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where residential is not

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allowed. And I'll walk

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through that process

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in the coming slides. Any

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development project is also

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subject to the California

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Environmental Quality Act.

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Most likely a project,

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a residential project,

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since that is not consistent

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with the General Plan, would

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trigger what we call an

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EIR-level review. So

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Environmental Impact Report,

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that's the highest level

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of CEQA. And that can take the

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form of a focused EIR

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for that project specific,

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or an addendum to the town's

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EIR that was adopted for the

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General Plan. What some

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development projects do is tier

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off of the existing General

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Plan EIR. A residential project

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proposed for the Windsor Creek

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site could not do that because

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it's residential is not

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consistent with the vision

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for that site that was analyzed

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in the EIR. So additional

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review would have

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to take place. The town,

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importantly,

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is the lead agency

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for CEQA review. So, a

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developer does not do their own

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environmental review. The town

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does the environmental review.

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at the cost of the developer.

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So, the town does have control

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of who does the technical

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studies, whether they're

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acceptable, and then ultimately

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the town's decision makers

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decide whether that

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environmental review document

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is adequate. And so,

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on this hypothetical of a

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residential development

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proposed for a public

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institutional site, There's a

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number of public touchpoints.

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So, as I mentioned, right now

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there's an application in. We

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are reviewing it

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for completeness. So, the town

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has a list

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of materials that we need

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to see

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to even begin our analysis

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of a proposed project.

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Anything that's not a draft

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report is considered public

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information. So, during this

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completeness review, The public

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is welcome to come

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to town hall and request

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to review the plans. That's

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public information that's

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available. We are also we have

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a website dedicated to the

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Windsor Creek site. That'll be

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updated as the project moves

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forward. So, it's another

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source

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of information available to the

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public. I mentioned that

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technical studies and referrals

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take place. So once a project

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is deemed complete,

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referrals are sent out.

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Internally, our Public Works

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Department will review

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projects. Planning will review

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projects. We also send out

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to outside agencies including

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Sonoma County Fire, the

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Police Department, Sonoma

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County Resource Recovery. And

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all these different agencies

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weigh in on a project,

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whether or not it's adequate

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down to the turn radiuses

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for specific site design.

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But also, a project that would

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be proposing residential

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on public institutional,

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we'd also be looking at that

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General Plan land use change.

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So, what are the impacts

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of changing what was planned

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for that site? So not just

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on the site, but also how it

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affects surrounding

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neighborhoods,

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how it affects transportation

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routes, evacuation routes,

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the ability

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to provide public services,

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those kind of things. It is

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subject to CEQA. Typically, the

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CEQA review takes place

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concurrently

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with the project review. We

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cannot approve a project

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without finding it to comply

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with CEQA. So that's why those

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2 typically align, and there

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may be changes

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to the project as a result

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of the CEQA analysis. The CEQA

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for an EIR requires public

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scoping meetings,

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so it's another opportunity

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for the public to weigh in

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on what potential impacts

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of the project could be. As

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well as when a draft CEQA

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document is released. The

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public is invited to comment

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on that. It typically also

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includes a public hearing

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in front of the Planning

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Commission where the commission

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can review the draft document

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as well as, again,

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the public can have input.

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That would result in a final

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EIR or final CEQA document,

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which again has

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to be certified

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before any approvals

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for a project could take place.

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And for a residential project

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proposed

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on a public institutional site,

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That would require a public

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hearing in front of the

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Planning Commission

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for a recommendation

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to amend the General Plan,

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amend the Station Area Plan,

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and amend the Zoning Code. And

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then that recommendation would

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go to the Town Council

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for final approval of the CEQA

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review process as well as those

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entitlements, including any

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site design or project-specific

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proposal. So, the planning

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aspect

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of this is multifaceted. So,

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in addition

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to the environmental concerns,

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planning is also looking

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at what kind of fit a proposed

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project would be

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for the community. And so,

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looking

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at our guiding documents,

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including any changes that are

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proposed

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to those guiding documents,

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I mentioned previously

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emergency access, evacuation,

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circulation, how it ties

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into the fabric

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of the town.

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>> Okay.

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>> Infrastructure and services.

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Any new development we would

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have to provide municipal

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services to. When the town's

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general plan was adopted,

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we assumed this would be used

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for a school or some other

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public use. So, if that's

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changed to residential,

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we have to analyze how that

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affects the town's ability

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to provide those services. And

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I mentioned outside agencies.

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Sonoma County Fire District is

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a separate agency. They would

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be involved

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in this referral as well to

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determine whether or not they'd

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be able

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to provide adequate services

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to a land use change

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like this. It does have

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proximity to the creek, so

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there'd be the biological

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considerations as well as flood

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constraint considerations,

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things like that. And I

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mentioned that this would not

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be looked at in isolation

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of the site itself, but

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in the context of the community

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that surrounds it. And it is

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part of the downtown,

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so we look at it

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in that context as well.

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There's also been discussion

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about the regional housing

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needs allocation and the town's

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requirement

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to provide housing. So, the

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town is subject to RHNA, which

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is that allocation that I

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mentioned. The current cycle

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has assigned 994 units

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to the town. The assignment

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essentially is that the town

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has to plan for development

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of these units. The town is not

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responsible

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for building those units. And

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there's no penalties if that

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number

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of units are not constructed.

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That development takes place

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through private developers and

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nonprofit developers. The town

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just has to show where all

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these housing units can go.

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In addition to the number,

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it's also broken down

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into income levels. So, there's

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very low income, low income,

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moderate, and above moderate.

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Above moderate is just market

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rate housing. And again,

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the town does not have

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to provide those number

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of units. We just have

598
00:17:47,100 --> 00:17:48,100
to provide a plan for how they

599
00:17:48,100 --> 00:17:51,601
could all be built. And the

600
00:17:52,100 --> 00:17:54,100
town currently has a certified

601
00:17:54,100 --> 00:17:55,100
housing element. It's been

602
00:17:55,100 --> 00:17:57,401
accepted. And that housing

603
00:18:02,100 --> 00:18:03,100
element did not include any

604
00:18:03,100 --> 00:18:04,100
housing on the Windsor Creek

605
00:18:04,100 --> 00:18:06,100
site because we had assumed

606
00:18:06,100 --> 00:18:08,100
that that would be a school

607
00:18:08,100 --> 00:18:09,100
site or other public use. So

608
00:18:09,100 --> 00:18:10,100
residential development on

609
00:18:10,100 --> 00:18:13,601
Windsor Creek is not needed to

610
00:18:14,100 --> 00:18:15,100
meet the town's housing

611
00:18:15,100 --> 00:18:16,100
assignment. And there has been

612
00:18:16,100 --> 00:18:17,100
talk about the number of

613
00:18:17,100 --> 00:18:20,100
housing units that have been

614
00:18:22,100 --> 00:18:25,601
going in. We are still falling

615
00:18:26,100 --> 00:18:27,100
short of most of our income

616
00:18:27,100 --> 00:18:28,100
level assignments. So very low

617
00:18:28,100 --> 00:18:29,100
and moderate, we're

618
00:18:29,100 --> 00:18:31,100
at 3% and 15%.

619
00:18:32,100 --> 00:18:34,401
of that target currently,

620
00:18:36,100 --> 00:18:38,100
about halfway

621
00:18:39,100 --> 00:18:41,100
through the cycle. Above

622
00:18:41,100 --> 00:18:43,100
moderate is a little bit more

623
00:18:43,100 --> 00:18:44,100
than halfway. In the area

624
00:18:44,100 --> 00:18:45,100
of low income,

625
00:18:45,100 --> 00:18:46,100
we have exceeded that target.

626
00:18:46,100 --> 00:18:48,401
But as I mentioned,

627
00:18:49,100 --> 00:18:50,100
there's no final report card at

628
00:18:50,100 --> 00:18:52,100
the end that we get penalized

629
00:18:52,100 --> 00:18:53,100
or anything like that

630
00:18:53,100 --> 00:18:55,100
in the current housing cycle.

631
00:18:55,100 --> 00:18:56,100
State law is fickle and can

632
00:18:56,100 --> 00:18:58,100
always change. But currently

633
00:18:58,100 --> 00:18:59,100
there's no requirement

634
00:18:59,100 --> 00:19:01,100
for the town to actually have

635
00:19:01,100 --> 00:19:04,601
these units be built. There is

636
00:19:07,100 --> 00:19:09,401
the term builder's remedy,

637
00:19:11,100 --> 00:19:12,100
which has been you may have

638
00:19:12,100 --> 00:19:13,100
heard. In fact, we have a

639
00:19:13,100 --> 00:19:15,100
project that we'll be

640
00:19:15,100 --> 00:19:16,100
discussing builder's remedy

641
00:19:16,100 --> 00:19:18,100
later on today's agenda.

642
00:19:18,100 --> 00:19:20,100
Builder's remedy is applicable

643
00:19:20,100 --> 00:19:23,100
when a town is out

644
00:19:23,100 --> 00:19:25,100
of compliance

645
00:19:25,100 --> 00:19:27,100
with that REINA assignment.

646
00:19:27,100 --> 00:19:28,100
So, there was a period where

647
00:19:28,100 --> 00:19:29,100
the town Did not have an

648
00:19:29,100 --> 00:19:31,100
HCD-certified housing element.

649
00:19:31,100 --> 00:19:33,401
That opened the town

650
00:19:36,100 --> 00:19:38,100
for builder's remedy, which is

651
00:19:38,100 --> 00:19:39,100
another streamlining path that

652
00:19:39,100 --> 00:19:41,100
can be used by development.

653
00:19:41,100 --> 00:19:43,100
In the case of any current

654
00:19:43,100 --> 00:19:45,100
development proposals,

655
00:19:45,100 --> 00:19:46,100
including the one for the

656
00:19:46,100 --> 00:19:47,100
Windsor Creek site, the town

657
00:19:47,100 --> 00:19:50,100
now has a certified housing

658
00:19:50,100 --> 00:19:51,100
element, so builder's remedy is

659
00:19:51,100 --> 00:19:54,601
not an option on the table.

660
00:19:56,100 --> 00:19:57,100
So, the key takeaways

661
00:19:57,100 --> 00:19:59,100
from this presentation. Right

662
00:19:59,100 --> 00:20:01,100
now, the site is dedicated

663
00:20:01,100 --> 00:20:02,100
for public uses. The state

664
00:20:02,100 --> 00:20:05,100
doesn't have any mandate that

665
00:20:06,100 --> 00:20:07,100
we rezone the property. So, I

666
00:20:07,100 --> 00:20:08,100
wrote up here the town has

667
00:20:08,100 --> 00:20:10,100
discretion. It's still a yes or

668
00:20:10,100 --> 00:20:11,100
no vote from the town of

669
00:20:11,100 --> 00:20:12,100
Windsor whether or not

670
00:20:12,100 --> 00:20:14,100
to change that land use

671
00:20:14,100 --> 00:20:15,100
to allow residential. Even

672
00:20:15,100 --> 00:20:17,100
with affordable housing,

673
00:20:20,100 --> 00:20:22,100
there's waivers for getting

674
00:20:22,100 --> 00:20:23,100
around standards. Those don't

675
00:20:23,100 --> 00:20:24,100
apply to land use. So,

676
00:20:24,100 --> 00:20:26,401
including affordable housing in

677
00:20:27,100 --> 00:20:29,100
a project does not allow a

678
00:20:29,100 --> 00:20:32,601
project to not change the land

679
00:20:34,100 --> 00:20:35,100
use or request a change

680
00:20:35,100 --> 00:20:37,100
of land use. The California

681
00:20:37,100 --> 00:20:38,100
Environmental Quality Act is

682
00:20:38,100 --> 00:20:40,100
still applicable

683
00:20:40,100 --> 00:20:41,100
to any development project.

684
00:20:41,100 --> 00:20:42,100
And I mentioned we have

685
00:20:42,100 --> 00:20:43,100
received a preliminary

686
00:20:43,100 --> 00:20:45,100
application, but we have not

687
00:20:45,100 --> 00:20:46,100
done any analysis on that. And

688
00:20:46,100 --> 00:20:47,100
moving forward, there will be

689
00:20:47,100 --> 00:20:49,100
several opportunities

690
00:20:50,100 --> 00:20:51,100
for public input and

691
00:20:51,100 --> 00:20:54,100
engagement. But we as staff

692
00:20:54,100 --> 00:20:55,100
welcome engagement all

693
00:20:55,100 --> 00:20:57,401
through the planning process.

694
00:20:58,100 --> 00:21:00,401
So, don't feel hesitant

695
00:21:01,100 --> 00:21:02,100
to give a call to staff or

696
00:21:02,100 --> 00:21:04,100
to send an email. We welcome

697
00:21:04,100 --> 00:21:05,100
all those communications. So,

698
00:21:05,100 --> 00:21:07,100
I'm available if there are any

699
00:21:07,100 --> 00:21:09,100
questions or if anyone wants

700
00:21:09,100 --> 00:21:10,100
to reach out to me. I also

701
00:21:10,100 --> 00:21:11,100
mentioned the town's website

702
00:21:11,100 --> 00:21:13,100
has information on the

703
00:21:13,100 --> 00:21:15,100
Windsor Creek School site as

704
00:21:15,100 --> 00:21:17,100
well as the application that's

705
00:21:17,100 --> 00:21:20,100
been received. And Kim Jordan

706
00:21:22,100 --> 00:21:23,100
is our planner

707
00:21:23,100 --> 00:21:24,100
for that project,

708
00:21:24,100 --> 00:21:25,100
so she can be reached directly

709
00:21:25,100 --> 00:21:26,100
at the information that's

710
00:21:26,100 --> 00:21:27,100
on the screen. And that

711
00:21:27,100 --> 00:21:29,100
concludes my presentation.

712
00:21:29,100 --> 00:21:31,100
>> Great, thank you very much,

713
00:21:31,100 --> 00:21:32,100
Patrick. Just remember

714
00:21:32,100 --> 00:21:34,100
to the public, we are not

715
00:21:34,100 --> 00:21:36,100
addressing a specific plan here

716
00:21:36,100 --> 00:21:37,100
tonight, although one has been

717
00:21:37,100 --> 00:21:38,100
submitted. And so, questions

718
00:21:38,100 --> 00:21:39,100
from the Commission to staff,

719
00:21:39,100 --> 00:21:40,100
if they have any

720
00:21:40,100 --> 00:21:42,100
about this process, are going

721
00:21:42,100 --> 00:21:43,100
to be in general, not specific

722
00:21:43,100 --> 00:21:46,100
to any developments that may

723
00:21:46,100 --> 00:21:49,100
have been proposed. We will

724
00:21:49,100 --> 00:21:51,100
have a public comment time

725
00:21:51,100 --> 00:21:52,100
after this as well. We'll go

726
00:21:52,100 --> 00:21:54,100
over some rules for that.

727
00:21:54,100 --> 00:21:56,100
Hopefully everybody can

728
00:21:56,100 --> 00:21:57,100
maintain their decorum and keep

729
00:21:57,100 --> 00:21:59,100
it civil. But we will not be

730
00:21:59,100 --> 00:22:00,100
taking any action. We're just

731
00:22:00,100 --> 00:22:01,100
receiving this presentation

732
00:22:01,100 --> 00:22:02,100
tonight. There's no vote.

733
00:22:02,100 --> 00:22:03,100
There's no decisions being made

734
00:22:03,100 --> 00:22:04,100
on anything here. So, we'll

735
00:22:04,100 --> 00:22:05,100
move forward. Do any members

736
00:22:05,100 --> 00:22:06,100
of the Commission have

737
00:22:06,100 --> 00:22:08,100
questions for staff

738
00:22:08,100 --> 00:22:10,100
at this time?

739
00:22:10,100 --> 00:22:11,100
>> Can I make a general

740
00:22:11,100 --> 00:22:12,100
comment?

741
00:22:12,100 --> 00:22:13,100
>> Sure.

742
00:22:13,100 --> 00:22:14,100
>> Kind of further addressing

743
00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:15,100
the public, I've seen a lot

744
00:22:15,100 --> 00:22:16,100
of questions

745
00:22:16,100 --> 00:22:18,401
about just the process

746
00:22:20,100 --> 00:22:21,100
in general, how you make sure

747
00:22:21,100 --> 00:22:22,100
there's traffic and movement

748
00:22:22,100 --> 00:22:24,100
and emergency plans. So, I

749
00:22:24,100 --> 00:22:27,100
encourage any members of the

750
00:22:27,100 --> 00:22:28,100
public that were interested

751
00:22:28,100 --> 00:22:29,100
in this topic to continue to

752
00:22:29,100 --> 00:22:30,100
stay because we'll be covering

753
00:22:30,100 --> 00:22:33,100
that for a different project.

754
00:22:33,100 --> 00:22:34,100
So you'll get a good better

755
00:22:34,100 --> 00:22:35,100
understanding of how the

756
00:22:35,100 --> 00:22:36,100
process works and all the

757
00:22:36,100 --> 00:22:37,100
different things that we take

758
00:22:37,100 --> 00:22:38,100
into consideration that are

759
00:22:38,100 --> 00:22:40,100
presented

760
00:22:40,100 --> 00:22:41,100
through the staff reports. So a

761
00:22:41,100 --> 00:22:43,100
lot of the things that Patrick

762
00:22:43,100 --> 00:22:44,100
mentioned that are part

763
00:22:44,100 --> 00:22:45,100
of the planning review,

764
00:22:45,100 --> 00:22:48,100
we'll be discussing for a

765
00:22:50,100 --> 00:22:51,100
different project later today.

766
00:22:51,100 --> 00:22:53,100
>> Any other questions? Seeing

767
00:22:53,100 --> 00:22:54,100
none. Okay,

768
00:22:54,100 --> 00:22:55,100
at this time we are going

769
00:22:55,100 --> 00:22:56,100
to open public comments.

770
00:22:56,100 --> 00:22:58,100
Reminder, public comment is

771
00:22:58,100 --> 00:23:00,100
limited to 3 minutes. Please

772
00:23:00,100 --> 00:23:01,100
state your name and address

773
00:23:01,100 --> 00:23:03,100
for the record. Direct your

774
00:23:03,100 --> 00:23:06,100
comments to the Commission. We

775
00:23:07,100 --> 00:23:08,100
probably won't be answering any

776
00:23:08,100 --> 00:23:09,100
questions. We may provide some

777
00:23:09,100 --> 00:23:11,401
clarification if it's needed.

778
00:23:13,100 --> 00:23:14,100
We're really going

779
00:23:14,100 --> 00:23:15,100
to be taking notes. and kind

780
00:23:15,100 --> 00:23:16,100
of listening to the public

781
00:23:16,100 --> 00:23:19,601
on this one. So, if anybody

782
00:23:23,100 --> 00:23:24,100
would like to make a comment,

783
00:23:24,100 --> 00:23:25,100
please approach the podium

784
00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:26,100
in the front.

785
00:23:26,100 --> 00:23:27,100
>> Hi there.

786
00:23:27,100 --> 00:23:28,100
>> Hello.

787
00:23:28,100 --> 00:23:29,100
>> My name is Cindy Bartell.

788
00:23:29,100 --> 00:23:30,100
Thank you

789
00:23:30,100 --> 00:23:31,100
for explaining that so well.

790
00:23:31,100 --> 00:23:32,100
That is Mr. Streeter, is the

791
00:23:32,100 --> 00:23:33,100
best I've ever heard it

792
00:23:33,100 --> 00:23:34,100
explained. And so,

793
00:23:34,100 --> 00:23:35,100
when we're talking

794
00:23:35,100 --> 00:23:36,100
about housing for teachers,

795
00:23:36,100 --> 00:23:37,100
since we are We have plenty

796
00:23:37,100 --> 00:23:38,100
of low-income housing now. Is

797
00:23:38,100 --> 00:23:39,100
there I don't know if there's

798
00:23:39,100 --> 00:23:40,100
anything that's preventing

799
00:23:40,100 --> 00:23:42,100
those teachers from applying

800
00:23:42,100 --> 00:23:44,401
for housing at one

801
00:23:45,100 --> 00:23:47,100
of those complexes.

802
00:23:49,100 --> 00:23:50,100
But if there's enough,

803
00:23:50,100 --> 00:23:52,100
there's enough. The

804
00:23:52,100 --> 00:23:54,100
high-density housing at

805
00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:55,100
Shiloh Road and Old Redwood

806
00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:57,100
Highway has brought

807
00:23:57,100 --> 00:23:58,100
in so much parking from more

808
00:23:58,100 --> 00:23:59,100
cars than that place can fit,

809
00:23:59,100 --> 00:24:02,100
that you can't even go

810
00:24:02,100 --> 00:24:03,100
to the park that is there.

811
00:24:03,100 --> 00:24:04,100
Also, the county complaining

812
00:24:04,100 --> 00:24:06,100
about water so much,

813
00:24:06,100 --> 00:24:08,401
and yet we're going

814
00:24:09,100 --> 00:24:12,601
to build a lot more housing.

815
00:24:13,100 --> 00:24:14,100
That doesn't make sense to me

816
00:24:14,100 --> 00:24:15,100
at all. And at one time,

817
00:24:15,100 --> 00:24:17,100
there was a rep

818
00:24:17,100 --> 00:24:19,100
from the post office who came

819
00:24:19,100 --> 00:24:22,100
to a meeting. He said they'd be

820
00:24:22,100 --> 00:24:25,100
very interested in putting a

821
00:24:27,100 --> 00:24:30,100
post office there. I don't

822
00:24:30,100 --> 00:24:31,100
think that's the worst idea.

823
00:24:31,100 --> 00:24:32,100
It's a very tiny little

824
00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:33,100
facility they're

825
00:24:33,100 --> 00:24:34,100
in and they're bursting

826
00:24:34,100 --> 00:24:36,100
at the seams. So, and let's

827
00:24:36,100 --> 00:24:38,100
see.

828
00:24:38,100 --> 00:24:39,100
>> Oh.

829
00:24:39,100 --> 00:24:41,100
>> And I'm wondering,

830
00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:43,100
from the low-income housing,

831
00:24:43,100 --> 00:24:45,100
I know you can't answer me, but

832
00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:46,100
it's just a question I have.

833
00:24:46,100 --> 00:24:47,100
Windsor,

834
00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:48,100
from what I understand,

835
00:24:48,100 --> 00:24:50,100
gains zero

836
00:24:52,100 --> 00:24:53,100
from having more housing. But

837
00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:57,100
it does say you have wear and

838
00:24:57,100 --> 00:24:58,100
tear on our roads,

839
00:24:58,100 --> 00:25:01,100
on our streets, fire, police

840
00:25:04,100 --> 00:25:05,100
department, all cost money.

841
00:25:05,100 --> 00:25:06,100
To bring

842
00:25:06,100 --> 00:25:07,100
in that many more people,

843
00:25:07,100 --> 00:25:08,100
it doesn't make sense

844
00:25:08,100 --> 00:25:10,100
to me.

845
00:25:10,100 --> 00:25:12,100
>> Thank you.

846
00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:16,100
>> Good evening,

847
00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:20,100
Commissioners. My name is

848
00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:21,100
Jessie Valerie, and I live at

849
00:25:21,100 --> 00:25:24,100
8920 Oakfield Lane. I'd like to

850
00:25:25,100 --> 00:25:26,100
ask how the town evaluates

851
00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:28,100
cumulative impacts and

852
00:25:28,100 --> 00:25:29,100
determines what is considered

853
00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:30,100
safe. We know that each project

854
00:25:30,100 --> 00:25:31,100
undergoes environmental review

855
00:25:31,100 --> 00:25:32,100
under the CEQA and traffic

856
00:25:32,100 --> 00:25:34,100
analysis, but my question is

857
00:25:34,100 --> 00:25:35,100
how safe is actually

858
00:25:35,100 --> 00:25:37,100
determined? What data

859
00:25:37,100 --> 00:25:38,100
assumptions and standards are

860
00:25:38,100 --> 00:25:41,601
being used to conclude that the

861
00:25:45,100 --> 00:25:46,100
cumulative impacts on traffic

862
00:25:46,100 --> 00:25:47,100
infrastructure and emergency

863
00:25:47,100 --> 00:25:49,100
evacuation are acceptable? Are

864
00:25:49,100 --> 00:25:51,100
those analyses based on today's

865
00:25:51,100 --> 00:25:52,100
conditions and the current

866
00:25:52,100 --> 00:25:54,401
number of approved, proposed,

867
00:25:58,100 --> 00:25:59,100
and under-construction

868
00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:01,100
developments, or are projects

869
00:26:01,100 --> 00:26:03,100
being evaluated largely

870
00:26:03,100 --> 00:26:06,601
on an individual basis? Using a

871
00:26:08,100 --> 00:26:10,100
conservative estimate of 2

872
00:26:10,100 --> 00:26:12,401
vehicles per household, the

873
00:26:13,100 --> 00:26:14,100
Armando Rizzullo development,

874
00:26:14,100 --> 00:26:16,100
the Mill Creek project,

875
00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:17,100
and existing Oakfield

876
00:26:17,100 --> 00:26:18,100
neighborhood as well as

877
00:26:18,100 --> 00:26:20,401
Windsor Mobile Country Club

878
00:26:21,100 --> 00:26:23,100
represent roughly 860 homes.

879
00:26:23,100 --> 00:26:25,100
>> This is approximate.

880
00:26:25,100 --> 00:26:27,100
>> And approximately 1,700

881
00:26:27,100 --> 00:26:28,100
vehicles. If the proposed

882
00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:30,401
Gallagher project is approved,

883
00:26:31,100 --> 00:26:33,100
that number grows

884
00:26:33,100 --> 00:26:35,100
to approximately 1,200 homes

885
00:26:36,100 --> 00:26:37,100
and nearly 2,500 vehicles

886
00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:39,100
relying on essentially the same

887
00:26:39,100 --> 00:26:41,100
road network.

888
00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:42,100
>> Okay.

889
00:26:42,100 --> 00:26:43,100
>> At what point does the town

890
00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:45,100
determine that the cumulative

891
00:26:45,100 --> 00:26:46,100
impact has reached a level that

892
00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:47,100
requires reevaluation? Is there

893
00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:48,100
a capacity threshold for roads

894
00:26:48,100 --> 00:26:51,100
and evacuation routes? And if

895
00:26:52,100 --> 00:26:54,100
so, are we approaching it? As

896
00:26:54,100 --> 00:26:55,100
someone who lives

897
00:26:55,100 --> 00:26:56,100
in this neighborhood,

898
00:26:56,100 --> 00:26:57,100
I already see cracked

899
00:26:57,100 --> 00:26:58,100
sidewalks, limited parking,

900
00:26:58,100 --> 00:27:00,100
speeding traffic,

901
00:27:02,100 --> 00:27:03,100
infrastructure that struggles

902
00:27:03,100 --> 00:27:04,100
to serve today's residents.

903
00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:05,100
So, my concern is simply

904
00:27:05,100 --> 00:27:06,100
growth. It's about whether the

905
00:27:06,100 --> 00:27:08,100
infrastructure and emergency

906
00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:11,100
access are keeping the pace.

907
00:27:11,100 --> 00:27:12,100
>> Thank you.

908
00:27:12,100 --> 00:27:13,100
>> with the growth. Also,

909
00:27:13,100 --> 00:27:14,100
with the parking issues, where

910
00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:15,100
would everyone put their

911
00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:16,100
garbage cans? Which I know is

912
00:27:16,100 --> 00:27:17,100
not as important,

913
00:27:17,100 --> 00:27:18,100
but it is a big deal. Growth is

914
00:27:18,100 --> 00:27:20,100
important, but so is public

915
00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:22,100
safety and thoughtful planning.

916
00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:24,100
I respectfully ask the

917
00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:26,100
commission to help residents

918
00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:27,100
understand how these

919
00:27:27,100 --> 00:27:29,100
conclusions are reached,

920
00:27:29,100 --> 00:27:31,401
what evidence supports them,

921
00:27:32,100 --> 00:27:33,100
and how the town ensures that

922
00:27:33,100 --> 00:27:35,100
cumulative impacts are being

923
00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:36,100
considered before additional

924
00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:38,100
density is approved.

925
00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:40,401
>> Thank you. Thank you.

926
00:27:46,100 --> 00:27:48,100
>> Name is Sam Salmon, 956

927
00:27:48,100 --> 00:27:50,100
Milson Place. I just wanted

928
00:27:50,100 --> 00:27:52,100
to indicate that the importance

929
00:27:52,100 --> 00:27:53,100
to me as a resident is the

930
00:27:53,100 --> 00:27:55,401
connectivity between the Mill

931
00:27:56,100 --> 00:27:58,100
site, which is

932
00:28:00,100 --> 00:28:02,100
across the creek, the Windsor

933
00:28:02,100 --> 00:28:04,401
Creek site, which is

934
00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:09,100
on the west side, Cora Creek,

935
00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:12,601
and then the downtown. I think

936
00:28:14,100 --> 00:28:16,100
that's a real opportunity

937
00:28:16,100 --> 00:28:17,100
to connect up the high school

938
00:28:17,100 --> 00:28:18,100
with the really the downtown

939
00:28:18,100 --> 00:28:19,100
and actually connect it up

940
00:28:19,100 --> 00:28:21,100
with the opposite side

941
00:28:21,100 --> 00:28:22,100
of the freeway. And it's really

942
00:28:22,100 --> 00:28:23,100
important. The proposal that

943
00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:24,100
staff will be looking at,

944
00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:25,100
it's not there. The proposal

945
00:28:25,100 --> 00:28:27,100
of the approved mill site

946
00:28:27,100 --> 00:28:28,100
There is a pedestrian bridge

947
00:28:28,100 --> 00:28:31,100
in that project. The New Mill

948
00:28:31,100 --> 00:28:33,100
site, probably not.

949
00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:37,100
But I just wanted to bring that

950
00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:38,100
up because I think it's really

951
00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:39,100
important if we're going to

952
00:28:39,100 --> 00:28:42,100
have a town that really values

953
00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:44,100
pedestrian and bicycling

954
00:28:49,100 --> 00:28:51,100
separate from the car. And we

955
00:28:51,100 --> 00:28:53,401
have a wonderful opportunity.

956
00:28:54,100 --> 00:28:56,100
Thank you.

957
00:28:56,100 --> 00:28:58,100
>> Thank you.

958
00:28:59,100 --> 00:29:00,100
>> Hi, good evening, Planning

959
00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:02,100
Commission. My name is

960
00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:04,100
Melanie Markarian. I live

961
00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:05,100
in the Oakfield neighborhood.

962
00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:07,100
Some of you may recognize me

963
00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:10,100
from being active on Facebook

964
00:29:10,100 --> 00:29:12,100
recently regarding the site.

965
00:29:12,100 --> 00:29:14,100
I'm here tonight

966
00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:15,100
representing myself and many of

967
00:29:15,100 --> 00:29:17,401
my neighbors opposing the

968
00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:20,100
rezoning. There are many

969
00:29:20,100 --> 00:29:21,100
reasons why we oppose the

970
00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:22,100
rezoning, but I'll focus on

971
00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:24,100
what matters most density and

972
00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:25,100
access. The Oakfield

973
00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:27,100
neighborhood is small, very

974
00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:30,100
small, with Condie Lane being

975
00:29:31,100 --> 00:29:33,100
the only way in and out. A

976
00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:35,401
360-plus unit development is

977
00:29:36,100 --> 00:29:37,100
way too dense for this site,

978
00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:38,100
especially stacked on top of

979
00:29:38,100 --> 00:29:39,100
Cora Creek's 100-plus units

980
00:29:39,100 --> 00:29:40,100
already in development.

981
00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:41,100
Together, that's over 400 new

982
00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:42,100
families funneling

983
00:29:42,100 --> 00:29:43,100
through a single access point.

984
00:29:43,100 --> 00:29:45,100
Wildfire evacuation. That

985
00:29:47,100 --> 00:29:49,100
single road bottleneck is not a

986
00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:51,100
hypothetical risk. Many

987
00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:53,401
Sonoma County residents have

988
00:29:54,100 --> 00:29:55,100
evacuated for wildfire

989
00:29:55,100 --> 00:29:57,100
at least once. Many know what

990
00:29:57,100 --> 00:29:58,100
it feels like to be stuck

991
00:29:58,100 --> 00:29:59,100
in gridlock, fearing

992
00:29:59,100 --> 00:30:01,100
for your life, unable

993
00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:03,100
to move. This was my experience

994
00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:06,100
living on the edge of Coffey

995
00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:07,100
Park during the 2017 Tubbs

996
00:30:07,100 --> 00:30:08,100
Fire. Adding hundreds more

997
00:30:08,100 --> 00:30:09,100
households to a neighborhood

998
00:30:09,100 --> 00:30:10,100
with only one way out isn't

999
00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:11,100
just a planning problem,

1000
00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:13,000
it's a public safety problem.

1001
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,100
Traffic and parking. We have a

1002
00:30:14,100 --> 00:30:16,100
really good example at Shiloh

1003
00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:17,100
Terrace. We don't have

1004
00:30:17,100 --> 00:30:18,100
to guess what it's going

1005
00:30:18,100 --> 00:30:19,100
to look like on our street. We

1006
00:30:19,100 --> 00:30:22,100
can just see it right now. The

1007
00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:24,100
housing math is not adding up

1008
00:30:24,100 --> 00:30:26,100
between Heritage Park,

1009
00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:28,100
Cascadia Burbank Housing, Cora

1010
00:30:28,100 --> 00:30:30,100
Creek, Shiloh Crossing.

1011
00:30:30,100 --> 00:30:31,100
There's already 346 units

1012
00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:33,100
proposed or

1013
00:30:33,100 --> 00:30:34,100
in development nearby. The

1014
00:30:34,100 --> 00:30:36,100
already constructed

1015
00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:38,100
developments, Shiloh Terrace

1016
00:30:38,100 --> 00:30:39,100
and Redwood Views, are both

1017
00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:40,100
currently struggling

1018
00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:42,100
to fill vacancies, and there's

1019
00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:43,100
been no surveys conducted

1020
00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:44,100
to demonstrate demand

1021
00:30:44,100 --> 00:30:45,100
for another 360+ units on top

1022
00:30:45,100 --> 00:30:48,100
of that. In addition, the

1023
00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:51,100
low-income housing quota has

1024
00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:53,100
already been met. Open space.

1025
00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:55,401
Windsor is already short

1026
00:30:56,100 --> 00:30:57,100
on parks, and the Oakfield

1027
00:30:57,100 --> 00:30:58,100
neighborhood does not have a

1028
00:30:58,100 --> 00:31:00,100
park. The field on this

1029
00:31:00,100 --> 00:31:01,100
property is the only green

1030
00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:02,100
space we have. Once it's paved,

1031
00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:04,401
it's gone permanently. My

1032
00:31:06,100 --> 00:31:09,601
partner and I built our home

1033
00:31:10,100 --> 00:31:11,100
in the Oakfield neighborhood

1034
00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:14,100
under the assumption that that

1035
00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:15,100
parcel was public use and it

1036
00:31:15,100 --> 00:31:17,100
that it would remain that way.

1037
00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:18,100
We felt like it was a safe and

1038
00:31:18,100 --> 00:31:19,100
community-oriented place,

1039
00:31:19,100 --> 00:31:20,100
and that's where we chose

1040
00:31:20,100 --> 00:31:21,100
to put roots down

1041
00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:22,100
with the intention

1042
00:31:22,100 --> 00:31:23,100
to start a family. With all

1043
00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:24,100
these points I've mentioned,

1044
00:31:24,100 --> 00:31:27,100
we're left wondering if we've

1045
00:31:27,100 --> 00:31:28,100
made a mistake. The bottom line

1046
00:31:28,100 --> 00:31:29,100
is we are urging the council

1047
00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:30,100
and the commission

1048
00:31:30,100 --> 00:31:32,100
to reject a rezoning

1049
00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:33,100
from public use to high-density

1050
00:31:33,100 --> 00:31:35,100
residential.

1051
00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:39,100
>> That's it.

1052
00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:44,601
>> Thank you. Hi there. This is

1053
00:31:45,100 --> 00:31:47,100
Jody Piscatello, neighbors

1054
00:31:48,100 --> 00:31:52,201
on the same street. One thing I

1055
00:31:53,100 --> 00:31:55,100
wanted to point out

1056
00:31:55,100 --> 00:31:57,100
from the presentation,

1057
00:31:57,100 --> 00:31:58,100
I love the slide

1058
00:31:58,100 --> 00:31:59,100
with the circle around

1059
00:31:59,100 --> 00:32:00,100
like the designated area. And I

1060
00:32:00,100 --> 00:32:02,100
think that that's probably

1061
00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:03,100
something that's

1062
00:32:03,100 --> 00:32:04,100
like cut and paste

1063
00:32:04,100 --> 00:32:05,100
for a mandate, right? It makes

1064
00:32:05,100 --> 00:32:06,100
a lot of sense, especially

1065
00:32:06,100 --> 00:32:07,100
for a city. It makes tons

1066
00:32:07,100 --> 00:32:09,100
of sense. And when you have,

1067
00:32:09,100 --> 00:32:10,100
like,

1068
00:32:10,100 --> 00:32:12,100
tall buildings going up next

1069
00:32:12,100 --> 00:32:13,100
to tall buildings going up,

1070
00:32:13,100 --> 00:32:15,100
then that falls in line.

1071
00:32:15,100 --> 00:32:16,100
Windsor is a town,

1072
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:18,100
and we do have land. And I feel

1073
00:32:18,100 --> 00:32:21,100
like, other than, of course,

1074
00:32:22,100 --> 00:32:23,100
the SMART train, you know,

1075
00:32:23,100 --> 00:32:24,100
with the buses, it's easier to

1076
00:32:24,100 --> 00:32:28,201
move a bus route than it is

1077
00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:30,100
>> Right.

1078
00:32:30,100 --> 00:32:33,601
To fix lanes where we don't

1079
00:32:34,100 --> 00:32:35,100
have room to widen them, or

1080
00:32:35,100 --> 00:32:37,100
create parking where there's no

1081
00:32:37,100 --> 00:32:38,100
room, no visibility

1082
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:39,100
around kind of a thing. So, I

1083
00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:42,100
love the picture that shows

1084
00:32:42,100 --> 00:32:43,100
this, and I also kind

1085
00:32:43,100 --> 00:32:45,401
of marry it up

1086
00:32:46,100 --> 00:32:47,100
with the survey that came out

1087
00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:48,100
that said how welcoming and

1088
00:32:48,100 --> 00:32:51,100
engaging is downtown. And it's

1089
00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:54,100
actually and I know I've told

1090
00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:56,100
you this before it's something

1091
00:32:56,100 --> 00:32:57,100
that I brag about because it is

1092
00:32:57,100 --> 00:33:00,100
really welcoming, and the fact

1093
00:33:00,100 --> 00:33:01,100
that people can walk to it.

1094
00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:03,100
So, you know,

1095
00:33:03,100 --> 00:33:04,100
with that respect,

1096
00:33:04,100 --> 00:33:05,100
all the housing going up,

1097
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:06,100
people can walk,

1098
00:33:06,100 --> 00:33:08,100
that's fantastic.

1099
00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:09,100
But keeping it welcoming,

1100
00:33:09,100 --> 00:33:10,100
I'm concerned about any time we

1101
00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:12,100
do something high-rise,

1102
00:33:15,100 --> 00:33:17,401
high-density when you don't

1103
00:33:19,100 --> 00:33:20,100
have to, simply because

1104
00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:21,100
of the lack of resources

1105
00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:22,100
for the people living there.

1106
00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:24,401
We're finding, hearing that

1107
00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:28,100
they're, the crime,

1108
00:33:28,100 --> 00:33:30,100
has risen and calls

1109
00:33:30,100 --> 00:33:32,401
for our peace officers

1110
00:33:33,100 --> 00:33:34,100
to go where those exist. So,

1111
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:35,100
where I want it

1112
00:33:35,100 --> 00:33:37,100
to be welcoming to visitors,

1113
00:33:37,100 --> 00:33:38,100
also anybody moving in,

1114
00:33:38,100 --> 00:33:39,100
they should have a home

1115
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:42,100
like everyone else. Like, you

1116
00:33:45,100 --> 00:33:46,100
know what I mean?

1117
00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:47,100
Like high density,

1118
00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:48,100
and I don't mean to be rude,

1119
00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:49,100
but we're literally building

1120
00:33:49,100 --> 00:33:50,100
the projects, right,

1121
00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:53,100
that you hear about like

1122
00:33:53,100 --> 00:33:55,100
on TV.

1123
00:33:55,100 --> 00:33:56,100
>> Right.

1124
00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:57,100
>> Because you're basically

1125
00:33:57,100 --> 00:33:58,100
saying, you're othering people

1126
00:33:58,100 --> 00:33:59,100
by saying when you live

1127
00:33:59,100 --> 00:34:01,100
in a big block like this where

1128
00:34:01,100 --> 00:34:02,100
it looks pretty today, oh,

1129
00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:04,100
you're low income. And why

1130
00:34:04,100 --> 00:34:06,100
would we treat anybody that

1131
00:34:06,100 --> 00:34:08,100
way?

1132
00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:09,100
Like we're all neighbors,

1133
00:34:09,100 --> 00:34:10,100
we're all one community. So why

1134
00:34:10,100 --> 00:34:11,100
would we other them

1135
00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:12,100
by stacking them up, you know,

1136
00:34:12,100 --> 00:34:13,100
in an area where that's not

1137
00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:14,100
inviting

1138
00:34:14,100 --> 00:34:15,100
to our own community? So, I

1139
00:34:15,100 --> 00:34:18,601
know I'm speaking a lot of

1140
00:34:21,100 --> 00:34:22,100
random thoughts cause I wasn't

1141
00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:23,100
prepared, I just came and those

1142
00:34:23,100 --> 00:34:24,100
are the things that came up,

1143
00:34:24,100 --> 00:34:26,100
so.

1144
00:34:26,100 --> 00:34:27,100
>> Yeah.

1145
00:34:27,100 --> 00:34:28,100
>> But anyways, I hope that

1146
00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:29,100
with this circle and us being a

1147
00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:30,100
town that we can put thought

1148
00:34:30,100 --> 00:34:31,100
into it to where we can invite

1149
00:34:31,100 --> 00:34:32,100
people in, but also keep it

1150
00:34:32,100 --> 00:34:34,401
completely welcoming for all

1151
00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:36,100
of us who live there, you know,

1152
00:34:36,100 --> 00:34:37,100
and keep that downtown smooth

1153
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:39,100
traffic, you know, all

1154
00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:40,100
of that, you know,

1155
00:34:40,100 --> 00:34:43,100
without so we don't check boxes

1156
00:34:43,100 --> 00:34:46,100
to destroy it. Anyways, that's

1157
00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:51,100
all. Thank you. Thank you.

1158
00:34:59,100 --> 00:35:00,100
>> Hi, Betsy Niles,

1159
00:35:00,100 --> 00:35:01,100
Springtree Circle. I think I

1160
00:35:01,100 --> 00:35:04,100
have a quick and easy question.

1161
00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:06,100
It said in the handout that

1162
00:35:06,100 --> 00:35:08,100
Windsor has an HCD-certified

1163
00:35:08,100 --> 00:35:09,100
housing element

1164
00:35:09,100 --> 00:35:10,100
for the current cycle. So, when

1165
00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:12,100
does the current cycle end?

1166
00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:13,100
Because it seems that

1167
00:35:13,100 --> 00:35:15,401
previously we were not

1168
00:35:17,100 --> 00:35:18,100
certified.

1169
00:35:18,100 --> 00:35:19,100
>> Okay.

1170
00:35:19,100 --> 00:35:20,100
>> And I'd like to know when

1171
00:35:20,100 --> 00:35:21,100
that was because the previous

1172
00:35:21,100 --> 00:35:23,100
the future project

1173
00:35:23,100 --> 00:35:24,100
on this agenda was under that

1174
00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:25,100
previous time when we were not

1175
00:35:25,100 --> 00:35:26,100
certified. So the builder

1176
00:35:26,100 --> 00:35:27,100
remedy would be applicable

1177
00:35:27,100 --> 00:35:28,100
then. So, I guess my question

1178
00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:30,100
is just on the timing as

1179
00:35:30,100 --> 00:35:31,100
to when Windsor has was

1180
00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:32,100
certified and how long it is

1181
00:35:32,100 --> 00:35:33,100
certified for. And then if for

1182
00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:34,100
some reason I thought it was

1183
00:35:34,100 --> 00:35:36,100
20 it was certified till,

1184
00:35:36,100 --> 00:35:39,601
but I may have just completely

1185
00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:46,100
made that up.

1186
00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:47,100
But what are you doing to

1187
00:35:47,100 --> 00:35:48,100
ensure that it stays certified

1188
00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:49,100
for the next cycle and

1189
00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:52,601
for however long that may be?

1190
00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:57,100
>> Thanks.

1191
00:36:06,100 --> 00:36:08,100
>> Good evening, Chair. I might

1192
00:36:08,100 --> 00:36:11,100
go just into the 4th minute,

1193
00:36:11,100 --> 00:36:13,100
if that's okay.

1194
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:16,100
>> Thank you.

1195
00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:19,100
>> All right, good evening,

1196
00:36:19,100 --> 00:36:20,100
Commission. My name is Kevin

1197
00:36:20,100 --> 00:36:21,100
Scanlon, currently a 29-year

1198
00:36:21,100 --> 00:36:22,100
resident of the town of

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00:36:22,100 --> 00:36:23,100
Windsor, Windsor Creek

1200
00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:24,100
residential and elementary

1201
00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:25,100
school neighborhood. I've been

1202
00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:26,100
in the government realm for

1203
00:36:26,100 --> 00:36:28,401
over 40 years and educated

1204
00:36:29,100 --> 00:36:30,100
for 27 years. I was a volunteer

1205
00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:31,100
for 16 years at Windsor High

1206
00:36:31,100 --> 00:36:33,100
School. The state of

1207
00:36:33,100 --> 00:36:34,100
California has about 10,780

1208
00:36:34,100 --> 00:36:36,100
square miles of vacant property

1209
00:36:36,100 --> 00:36:37,100
they could have mandated

1210
00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:38,100
to be used

1211
00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:39,100
for the alleged housing issues,

1212
00:36:39,100 --> 00:36:41,100
but decided

1213
00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:42,100
to force the unabated issues to

1214
00:36:42,100 --> 00:36:44,100
the existing established towns,

1215
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:45,100
cities, and county entities,

1216
00:36:45,100 --> 00:36:46,100
hence this horrific build-in

1217
00:36:46,100 --> 00:36:47,100
for our communities. The

1218
00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:49,100
State Board of Education and

1219
00:36:49,100 --> 00:36:50,100
state legislature almost 10

1220
00:36:50,100 --> 00:36:51,100
years ago concocted the legal

1221
00:36:51,100 --> 00:36:52,100
scheme of surplus land sales

1222
00:36:52,100 --> 00:36:53,100
and waste opportunities. Upon

1223
00:36:53,100 --> 00:36:56,100
which WSD is 100% all in on to

1224
00:36:56,100 --> 00:36:58,100
provide a supplemental review

1225
00:36:58,100 --> 00:36:59,100
stream, thanks to the

1226
00:36:59,100 --> 00:37:00,100
professionally corrupt district

1227
00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:01,100
management, some members of the

1228
00:37:01,100 --> 00:37:04,100
current school board. I and

1229
00:37:07,100 --> 00:37:08,100
others have been coming to you

1230
00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:09,100
since 2024 when we discovered

1231
00:37:09,100 --> 00:37:10,100
the Windsor Unified School

1232
00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:12,100
District, its school board,

1233
00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:13,100
and Gallagher's operations

1234
00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:14,100
wanted to get at the Windsor

1235
00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:16,100
Creek Elementary School site.

1236
00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:17,100
Prior to this, many thought

1237
00:37:17,100 --> 00:37:18,100
Windsor Unified School

1238
00:37:18,100 --> 00:37:20,401
District was a well-established

1239
00:37:30,100 --> 00:37:32,100
educational entity

1240
00:37:33,100 --> 00:37:34,100
within the community.

1241
00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:35,100
Luckily, the fight for the

1242
00:37:35,100 --> 00:37:37,100
Windsor Creek Elementary site

1243
00:37:37,100 --> 00:37:38,100
has uncovered many unsettling

1244
00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:40,100
items of interest

1245
00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:44,100
along the way

1246
00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:45,100
with the WUSD daily operations,

1247
00:37:45,100 --> 00:37:46,100
its staff, and school board

1248
00:37:46,100 --> 00:37:47,100
function, and not

1249
00:37:47,100 --> 00:37:48,100
in a positive way

1250
00:37:48,100 --> 00:37:49,100
for the health and welfare

1251
00:37:49,100 --> 00:37:51,100
of students or our community.

1252
00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:52,100
Windsor Unified School

1253
00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:53,100
District has 8th graders

1254
00:37:53,100 --> 00:37:55,100
graduating at a lack

1255
00:37:55,100 --> 00:37:56,100
of conversational level

1256
00:37:56,100 --> 00:37:57,100
Spanish from Cali Cameca

1257
00:37:57,100 --> 00:37:59,100
seniors graduating

1258
00:37:59,100 --> 00:38:00,100
from the high school. They're

1259
00:38:00,100 --> 00:38:01,100
not testing their overall

1260
00:38:01,100 --> 00:38:04,100
proficiency on exit. And now

1261
00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:09,100
someone discovered phonics

1262
00:38:09,100 --> 00:38:10,100
actually works at Mattie

1263
00:38:10,100 --> 00:38:11,100
Washburn, but that was

1264
00:38:11,100 --> 00:38:12,100
after it was resurrected into

1265
00:38:12,100 --> 00:38:14,100
the curriculum this past school

1266
00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:15,100
year. It is disgusting the

1267
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:16,100
Windsor Unified School

1268
00:38:16,100 --> 00:38:17,100
District is crying

1269
00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:18,100
over their money issue, which

1270
00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:20,100
is a total farce that I've been

1271
00:38:20,100 --> 00:38:21,100
reporting on for the last 22

1272
00:38:21,100 --> 00:38:22,100
months. Windsor Unified

1273
00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:23,100
School District has been making

1274
00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:24,100
money via Santa Rosa City

1275
00:38:24,100 --> 00:38:25,100
School debacle, the PK and TK

1276
00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:27,100
program, their $100 million

1277
00:38:27,100 --> 00:38:28,100
budget, their flat-out lie

1278
00:38:28,100 --> 00:38:29,100
from November 2024 election

1279
00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:31,100
that they needed a $122 million

1280
00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:32,100
bond, now asking for $96

1281
00:38:32,100 --> 00:38:34,100
million this November.

1282
00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:36,100
Recently, the school board

1283
00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:37,100
decided to use more

1284
00:38:37,100 --> 00:38:38,100
of our tax dollars

1285
00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:39,100
to provide a 4-year contract to

1286
00:38:39,100 --> 00:38:40,100
the superintendent and his

1287
00:38:40,100 --> 00:38:41,100
business officer to the tune

1288
00:38:41,100 --> 00:38:42,100
of $314,000 a year and

1289
00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:44,100
$240,000 a year,

1290
00:38:44,100 --> 00:38:45,100
respectively. The state of

1291
00:38:45,100 --> 00:38:47,100
California dedicates roughly

1292
00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:48,100
40%

1293
00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:49,100
of its general fund revenues

1294
00:38:49,100 --> 00:38:50,100
for K through 12 schools and is

1295
00:38:50,100 --> 00:38:53,100
holding out billions of dollars

1296
00:38:53,100 --> 00:38:54,100
as a precautionary measure.

1297
00:38:54,100 --> 00:38:55,100
This year alone,

1298
00:38:55,100 --> 00:38:56,100
it will cost us $128 billion

1299
00:38:56,100 --> 00:38:58,401
statewide. The governor just

1300
00:39:16,100 --> 00:39:17,100
wiped out the state

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00:39:17,100 --> 00:39:18,100
superintendent position and

1302
00:39:18,100 --> 00:39:19,100
started and starting in

1303
00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:22,100
January 2027, there will be an

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00:39:23,100 --> 00:39:24,100
education commissioner who will

1305
00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:25,100
who directly reports

1306
00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:28,100
to the governor and no longer

1307
00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:29,100
to the public. Their

1308
00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:30,100
per-student cost also was

1309
00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:31,100
raised at an unsettling amount

1310
00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:33,100
of $27,000 a year

1311
00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:34,100
with no known reason or level

1312
00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:35,100
of success based upon our

1313
00:39:35,100 --> 00:39:38,100
costs. It has been said,

1314
00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:39,100
who you associate

1315
00:39:39,100 --> 00:39:40,100
with is an example

1316
00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:41,100
of your character. Well, the

1317
00:39:41,100 --> 00:39:43,100
Windsor Unified School

1318
00:39:44,100 --> 00:39:45,100
District and school board have

1319
00:39:45,100 --> 00:39:46,100
proved that their association

1320
00:39:46,100 --> 00:39:48,100
with Gallagher Builders says a

1321
00:39:48,100 --> 00:39:50,100
lot about the school district

1322
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:52,100
and the school board character.

1323
00:39:52,100 --> 00:39:55,100
I want to thank the town

1324
00:39:55,100 --> 00:39:56,100
council and town manager and

1325
00:39:56,100 --> 00:39:57,100
town attorney for trying

1326
00:39:57,100 --> 00:40:00,100
to get the Windsor Creek

1327
00:40:00,100 --> 00:40:02,100
Elementary site, but

1328
00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:03,100
to our dismay, the Windsor

1329
00:40:03,100 --> 00:40:05,100
Unified School District doesn't

1330
00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:07,100
want to be part

1331
00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:08,100
of this community.

1332
00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:09,100
In closing, Superintendent

1333
00:40:09,100 --> 00:40:10,100
Decker has the power and

1334
00:40:10,100 --> 00:40:12,100
control to back out

1335
00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:13,100
of the ENA,

1336
00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:14,100
the exclusive negotiation

1337
00:40:14,100 --> 00:40:15,100
agreement,

1338
00:40:15,100 --> 00:40:16,100
with one signature. However, he

1339
00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:18,100
doesn't possess the fortitude

1340
00:40:18,100 --> 00:40:19,100
to do the right thing nor have

1341
00:40:19,100 --> 00:40:20,100
loyalty

1342
00:40:20,100 --> 00:40:21,100
to this town or the students.

1343
00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:22,100
In summation, the decisions

1344
00:40:22,100 --> 00:40:24,100
of the Windsor Unified School

1345
00:40:24,100 --> 00:40:25,100
District School Board will one

1346
00:40:25,100 --> 00:40:26,100
way or another affect our town

1347
00:40:26,100 --> 00:40:27,100
forever,

1348
00:40:27,100 --> 00:40:29,100
yet the educational level

1349
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:31,100
of success remains

1350
00:40:31,100 --> 00:40:32,100
in a stifled state

1351
00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:33,100
of improvement. Thank you very

1352
00:40:33,100 --> 00:40:35,100
much.

1353
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:41,100
>> Thank you, Kim. Anyone else

1354
00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:44,401
for public comment? Okay,

1355
00:40:45,100 --> 00:40:47,100
seeing none,

1356
00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:48,100
we will close this item

1357
00:40:48,100 --> 00:40:50,100
on the agenda. Thanks, staff,

1358
00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:51,100
for their presentation and the

1359
00:40:51,100 --> 00:40:53,100
community

1360
00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:54,100
for their participation.

1361
00:40:54,100 --> 00:40:55,100
Moving on to item number 7,

1362
00:40:55,100 --> 00:40:56,100
which is our public comment.

1363
00:40:56,100 --> 00:40:58,100
Members of the public wishing

1364
00:40:58,100 --> 00:40:59,100
to address the Commission on

1365
00:40:59,100 --> 00:41:00,100
any consent calendar item or

1366
00:41:00,100 --> 00:41:02,100
any item not listed

1367
00:41:02,100 --> 00:41:03,100
on the agenda may do so

1368
00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:04,100
Pursuant to the Brown Act, the

1369
00:41:04,100 --> 00:41:05,100
Commission is not allowed to

1370
00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:06,100
consider issues or take action

1371
00:41:06,100 --> 00:41:07,100
on any item not listed

1372
00:41:07,100 --> 00:41:09,100
on the agenda

1373
00:41:09,100 --> 00:41:10,100
during this period. Each public

1374
00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:11,100
comment is normally restricted

1375
00:41:11,100 --> 00:41:12,100
to 3 minutes

1376
00:41:12,100 --> 00:41:13,100
in length and must be spoken

1377
00:41:13,100 --> 00:41:14,100
into the microphone

1378
00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:15,100
from the podium. If you wish

1379
00:41:15,100 --> 00:41:16,100
to speak

1380
00:41:16,100 --> 00:41:18,100
on a consent calendar item,

1381
00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:19,100
please notify the chair

1382
00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:21,401
during public comment. Does

1383
00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:25,100
anyone wish

1384
00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:26,100
to make a public comment

1385
00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:27,100
at this time?

1386
00:41:27,100 --> 00:41:29,100
>> Let's see.

1387
00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:30,100
>> We've got one.

1388
00:41:30,100 --> 00:41:31,100
>> You ready?

1389
00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:32,100
>> Well, you can move a little

1390
00:41:32,100 --> 00:41:33,100
faster than that.

1391
00:41:33,100 --> 00:41:34,100
>> Damn. Okay, Sam Salmon, I

1392
00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:35,100
want to take this time to read

1393
00:41:35,100 --> 00:41:37,100
an email that I received,

1394
00:41:37,100 --> 00:41:38,100
with all due respect

1395
00:41:38,100 --> 00:41:42,201
to the sender. Okay. Hi Sam, my

1396
00:41:43,100 --> 00:41:45,100
name is and it's a name I've

1397
00:41:45,100 --> 00:41:48,100
been a Windsor resident since

1398
00:41:48,100 --> 00:41:51,100
1989. That's a year less than

1399
00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:53,100
me. Since you arrived,

1400
00:41:53,100 --> 00:41:55,100
On the town council ballot,

1401
00:41:55,100 --> 00:41:57,100
I voted for you every time.

1402
00:41:57,100 --> 00:41:59,100
Have lost count.

1403
00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:01,100
In the early days, you espoused

1404
00:42:01,100 --> 00:42:02,100
controlled growth and sensible

1405
00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:04,100
town planning to avoid Windsor

1406
00:42:04,100 --> 00:42:07,100
becoming another San Jose or

1407
00:42:07,100 --> 00:42:10,100
name your city. Now we are

1408
00:42:10,100 --> 00:42:11,100
witnessing a tipping point

1409
00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:13,401
where Windsor is out

1410
00:42:14,100 --> 00:42:16,100
of control. High-density

1411
00:42:16,100 --> 00:42:18,100
housing is being built

1412
00:42:18,100 --> 00:42:19,100
everywhere. It's becoming

1413
00:42:19,100 --> 00:42:21,401
ubiquitous. Out of concern

1414
00:42:22,100 --> 00:42:24,401
for our blessed town,

1415
00:42:25,100 --> 00:42:27,100
I'm writing

1416
00:42:28,100 --> 00:42:29,100
to ask what can be done. The

1417
00:42:29,100 --> 00:42:31,100
mention of Windsor Creek is

1418
00:42:31,100 --> 00:42:32,100
possibly developed by

1419
00:42:32,100 --> 00:42:35,100
for apartments on the council

1420
00:42:36,100 --> 00:42:39,100
agenda is just today's example

1421
00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:41,401
of negligent town stewardship

1422
00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:48,100
and respect for the land

1423
00:42:48,100 --> 00:42:50,100
around us. So, what can be done

1424
00:42:50,100 --> 00:42:53,100
to stop? And what's your

1425
00:42:53,100 --> 00:42:55,100
position on the matter? How

1426
00:42:55,100 --> 00:42:57,100
much sleep do you think I've

1427
00:42:57,100 --> 00:43:00,601
lost? How sober is that email?

1428
00:43:05,100 --> 00:43:07,100
>> Thank you. Any other public

1429
00:43:07,100 --> 00:43:08,100
comments at this time? Seeing

1430
00:43:08,100 --> 00:43:10,100
none, we will close public

1431
00:43:10,100 --> 00:43:11,100
comment and move on

1432
00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:12,100
to item number 8, our consent

1433
00:43:12,100 --> 00:43:13,100
calendar. Consent calendar

1434
00:43:13,100 --> 00:43:14,100
items are viewed as routine in

1435
00:43:14,100 --> 00:43:16,100
nature. will require little or

1436
00:43:16,100 --> 00:43:17,100
no further discussion by the

1437
00:43:17,100 --> 00:43:18,100
Commission, public, or

1438
00:43:18,100 --> 00:43:19,100
applicant,

1439
00:43:19,100 --> 00:43:20,100
and will be acted upon

1440
00:43:20,100 --> 00:43:21,100
through a single motion. There

1441
00:43:21,100 --> 00:43:22,100
is one item on the consent

1442
00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:23,100
calendar that is approval

1443
00:43:23,100 --> 00:43:25,100
of the regular meeting minutes

1444
00:43:25,100 --> 00:43:26,100
of June 23rd, 2026. Do we have

1445
00:43:26,100 --> 00:43:28,401
a motion for approval?

1446
00:43:29,100 --> 00:43:30,100
>> So, moved.

1447
00:43:30,100 --> 00:43:32,100
>> Seconded.

1448
00:43:32,100 --> 00:43:33,100
>> Motion and a second.

1449
00:43:33,100 --> 00:43:34,100
>> Thank you.

1450
00:43:34,100 --> 00:43:35,100
>> Madam Secretary, can we have

1451
00:43:35,100 --> 00:43:37,100
a roll call vote, please?

1452
00:43:37,100 --> 00:43:39,100
>> [ CALLING ROLL ]

1453
00:43:49,100 --> 00:43:51,100
>> Motion carries. Moving on

1454
00:43:51,100 --> 00:43:52,100
to item number 9.1, File 23-11,

1455
00:43:52,100 --> 00:43:53,100
Los Amigos Cottages. This item

1456
00:43:53,100 --> 00:43:54,100
was continued from the

1457
00:43:54,100 --> 00:43:55,100
Planning Commission meeting

1458
00:43:55,100 --> 00:43:57,100
held on June 23rd, 2026. Uh, do

1459
00:43:57,100 --> 00:43:58,100
any commissioners have any ex

1460
00:43:58,100 --> 00:43:59,100
parte disclosures or

1461
00:43:59,100 --> 00:44:00,100
communications to report

1462
00:44:00,100 --> 00:44:02,100
at this time?

1463
00:44:04,100 --> 00:44:05,100
>> None.

1464
00:44:05,100 --> 00:44:06,100
>> Seeing none, Planner

1465
00:44:06,100 --> 00:44:08,100
Jordan, you have a presentation

1466
00:44:08,100 --> 00:44:09,100
for us.

1467
00:44:09,100 --> 00:44:10,100
>> Good evening, Chair Kubota

1468
00:44:10,100 --> 00:44:11,100
and Planning Commissioners. I'm

1469
00:44:11,100 --> 00:44:12,100
Kim Jordan. I'm one

1470
00:44:12,100 --> 00:44:13,100
of the planners in the

1471
00:44:13,100 --> 00:44:14,100
Community Development

1472
00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:15,100
Department, and this item is

1473
00:44:15,100 --> 00:44:16,100
the Los Amigos Cottages

1474
00:44:16,100 --> 00:44:18,401
Builders Remedy Project. And

1475
00:44:19,100 --> 00:44:20,100
this is the town's first

1476
00:44:20,100 --> 00:44:22,100
Builders Remedy Project, so

1477
00:44:22,100 --> 00:44:23,100
we'll be going over some

1478
00:44:23,100 --> 00:44:24,100
material that we haven't

1479
00:44:24,100 --> 00:44:26,100
discussed before so everyone

1480
00:44:26,100 --> 00:44:28,100
can understand the framework

1481
00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:30,100
within which we'll be making a

1482
00:44:30,100 --> 00:44:32,401
decision for this project.

1483
00:44:33,100 --> 00:44:34,100
So, it's a tentative

1484
00:44:34,100 --> 00:44:35,100
subdivision map, a affordable

1485
00:44:35,100 --> 00:44:36,100
housing waivers and reservation

1486
00:44:36,100 --> 00:44:38,100
of growth control allocations.

1487
00:44:38,100 --> 00:44:40,100
So,

1488
00:44:41,100 --> 00:44:42,100
for tonight's presentation,

1489
00:44:42,100 --> 00:44:43,100
we'll talk

1490
00:44:43,100 --> 00:44:44,100
about the background, what a

1491
00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:45,100
builder's remedy application

1492
00:44:45,100 --> 00:44:47,100
is, the project itself,

1493
00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:49,100
analysis of the project,

1494
00:44:49,100 --> 00:44:50,100
environmental review that was

1495
00:44:50,100 --> 00:44:52,401
done, and tonight's recommended

1496
00:44:54,100 --> 00:44:56,100
action. So, this is just the

1497
00:44:56,100 --> 00:44:59,100
location map. Let's see here.

1498
00:45:00,100 --> 00:45:03,601
So, this is the project site.

1499
00:45:05,100 --> 00:45:08,100
The Quail Acres project that's

1500
00:45:08,100 --> 00:45:09,100
been approved is located

1501
00:45:09,100 --> 00:45:10,100
to the east here. And then

1502
00:45:10,100 --> 00:45:11,100
Los Amigos Extension runs right

1503
00:45:11,100 --> 00:45:14,601
here. And then this is the

1504
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:18,100
Rattling here. And then this is

1505
00:45:18,100 --> 00:45:21,100
the project site itself. And

1506
00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:23,100
this is New Song Church

1507
00:45:23,100 --> 00:45:25,100
immediately adjacent

1508
00:45:25,100 --> 00:45:27,100
to the west.

1509
00:45:27,100 --> 00:45:29,100
>> Okay.

1510
00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:30,100
>> So, a little bit

1511
00:45:30,100 --> 00:45:31,100
about the project timeline.

1512
00:45:31,100 --> 00:45:33,100
The application was submitted

1513
00:45:33,100 --> 00:45:35,100
April 2023. It's what we call a

1514
00:45:35,100 --> 00:45:37,100
preliminary SB 330 application.

1515
00:45:39,100 --> 00:45:40,100
That's provision

1516
00:45:40,100 --> 00:45:43,100
of what we call the Housing

1517
00:45:43,100 --> 00:45:44,100
Accountability Act. This is

1518
00:45:44,100 --> 00:45:45,100
specifically filed as a

1519
00:45:45,100 --> 00:45:47,100
builder's remedy application.

1520
00:45:47,100 --> 00:45:50,100
And then on August 10th,

1521
00:45:51,100 --> 00:45:53,100
2023, they resubmitted that

1522
00:45:54,100 --> 00:45:55,100
builder's remedy application.

1523
00:45:55,100 --> 00:45:56,100
That's because the town did not

1524
00:45:56,100 --> 00:45:58,100
have an adopted and certified

1525
00:45:58,100 --> 00:46:00,401
housing element. So August

1526
00:46:02,100 --> 00:46:04,401
16th, 2023, the town council

1527
00:46:06,100 --> 00:46:08,401
adopted the housing element,

1528
00:46:09,100 --> 00:46:11,100
and then August 31st, 2023, it

1529
00:46:11,100 --> 00:46:14,100
was certified by the Housing

1530
00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:16,100
and Community Development

1531
00:46:17,100 --> 00:46:18,100
Department. In December of

1532
00:46:18,100 --> 00:46:19,100
2023, the applicant filed the

1533
00:46:19,100 --> 00:46:21,401
formal application for the

1534
00:46:22,100 --> 00:46:23,100
builder the builder's remedy

1535
00:46:23,100 --> 00:46:24,100
application for this project.

1536
00:46:24,100 --> 00:46:27,100
And then on January 1st,

1537
00:46:27,100 --> 00:46:28,100
2025, Assembly Bill 1893 became

1538
00:46:28,100 --> 00:46:30,100
effective. That made

1539
00:46:32,100 --> 00:46:33,100
modifications to the builder's

1540
00:46:33,100 --> 00:46:34,100
remedy provisions that allowed

1541
00:46:34,100 --> 00:46:36,100
modifications

1542
00:46:40,100 --> 00:46:41,100
to the percentage of affordable

1543
00:46:41,100 --> 00:46:42,100
housing that was required and

1544
00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:43,100
made some other changes. And

1545
00:46:43,100 --> 00:46:46,100
then on November 10th, 10th,

1546
00:46:46,100 --> 00:46:48,100
2025, the applicant sent a

1547
00:46:48,100 --> 00:46:50,100
letter to the town informing

1548
00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:51,100
them that they were going

1549
00:46:51,100 --> 00:46:52,100
to use some

1550
00:46:52,100 --> 00:46:55,100
of the provisions included in

1551
00:46:55,100 --> 00:46:56,100
Assembly Bill 1893,

1552
00:46:56,100 --> 00:46:58,100
but all other aspects of the

1553
00:46:58,100 --> 00:46:59,100
project would remain the same.

1554
00:46:59,100 --> 00:47:00,100
So, to talk a little bit

1555
00:47:00,100 --> 00:47:02,100
about the Housing

1556
00:47:06,100 --> 00:47:07,100
Accountability Act and how that

1557
00:47:07,100 --> 00:47:08,100
relates to Builders Remedy

1558
00:47:08,100 --> 00:47:09,100
Project, there are 5 findings

1559
00:47:09,100 --> 00:47:10,100
for denial of a project when it

1560
00:47:10,100 --> 00:47:12,100
includes 13% affordable

1561
00:47:15,100 --> 00:47:17,100
housing. So that this does

1562
00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:18,100
apply to this project. This

1563
00:47:18,100 --> 00:47:20,100
project includes 15% affordable

1564
00:47:20,100 --> 00:47:21,100
housing. So, the first is that

1565
00:47:21,100 --> 00:47:24,100
the city or county hasn't

1566
00:47:26,100 --> 00:47:27,100
adopted an HCD-certified

1567
00:47:27,100 --> 00:47:29,100
housing element at the time the

1568
00:47:29,100 --> 00:47:31,100
application was submitted and

1569
00:47:31,100 --> 00:47:33,100
the city or county has met or

1570
00:47:33,100 --> 00:47:36,601
exceeded their RENA. So, at the

1571
00:47:37,100 --> 00:47:39,100
time this application was

1572
00:47:39,100 --> 00:47:40,100
submitted, the town did not

1573
00:47:40,100 --> 00:47:41,100
have a certified housing

1574
00:47:41,100 --> 00:47:42,100
element. does not apply

1575
00:47:42,100 --> 00:47:44,100
to this project. It cannot be

1576
00:47:44,100 --> 00:47:45,100
denied for that reason. And

1577
00:47:45,100 --> 00:47:47,100
then the housing development or

1578
00:47:47,100 --> 00:47:48,100
emergency shelter would have a

1579
00:47:48,100 --> 00:47:50,100
specific adverse impact

1580
00:47:51,100 --> 00:47:52,100
on health and safety,

1581
00:47:52,100 --> 00:47:53,100
and there is no way

1582
00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:54,100
to mitigate that impact without

1583
00:47:54,100 --> 00:47:55,100
making the development

1584
00:47:55,100 --> 00:47:56,100
unaffordable. So, staff also

1585
00:47:56,100 --> 00:47:57,100
you can't deny the project

1586
00:47:57,100 --> 00:47:59,100
based on that finding. And then

1587
00:47:59,100 --> 00:48:00,100
the denial or condition is

1588
00:48:00,100 --> 00:48:01,100
required

1589
00:48:01,100 --> 00:48:02,100
to meet state or federal law,

1590
00:48:02,100 --> 00:48:04,100
and there is no feasible method

1591
00:48:04,100 --> 00:48:05,100
to comply without making the

1592
00:48:05,100 --> 00:48:07,100
development unaffordable.

1593
00:48:13,100 --> 00:48:14,100
>> Okay.

1594
00:48:14,100 --> 00:48:15,100
>> Also, not aware of anything

1595
00:48:15,100 --> 00:48:16,100
that applies

1596
00:48:16,100 --> 00:48:18,100
for that finding. And then the

1597
00:48:18,100 --> 00:48:19,100
project is proposed

1598
00:48:19,100 --> 00:48:20,100
on land zoned for agricultural

1599
00:48:20,100 --> 00:48:21,100
or resource preservation. That

1600
00:48:21,100 --> 00:48:22,100
also does not apply

1601
00:48:22,100 --> 00:48:24,100
to this project. And then

1602
00:48:24,100 --> 00:48:25,100
lastly,

1603
00:48:25,100 --> 00:48:27,100
the project is inconsistent

1604
00:48:27,100 --> 00:48:28,100
with both the zoning ordinance

1605
00:48:28,100 --> 00:48:30,100
and the General Plan land use

1606
00:48:30,100 --> 00:48:31,100
designation. So that's where a

1607
00:48:31,100 --> 00:48:33,100
builder's remedy comes

1608
00:48:33,100 --> 00:48:34,100
into effect. So, we'll talk

1609
00:48:34,100 --> 00:48:35,100
about that

1610
00:48:35,100 --> 00:48:37,401
on the next slide.

1611
00:48:40,100 --> 00:48:41,100
>> Okay.

1612
00:48:41,100 --> 00:48:42,100
>> So, a builder's remedy

1613
00:48:42,100 --> 00:48:43,100
happens in this case if a

1614
00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:44,100
locality has not adopted a

1615
00:48:44,100 --> 00:48:46,100
housing element

1616
00:48:46,100 --> 00:48:47,100
in substantial compliance

1617
00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:48,100
with state law,

1618
00:48:48,100 --> 00:48:50,100
which the town had not. The

1619
00:48:50,100 --> 00:48:52,100
developer may propose an

1620
00:48:52,100 --> 00:48:53,100
eligible housing development

1621
00:48:53,100 --> 00:48:55,100
even though the project doesn't

1622
00:48:55,100 --> 00:48:58,100
comply with the general plan

1623
00:48:59,100 --> 00:49:01,100
land use designation of the

1624
00:49:01,100 --> 00:49:02,100
site and the zoning designation

1625
00:49:02,100 --> 00:49:06,100
of the site, which is the case

1626
00:49:06,100 --> 00:49:07,100
for this project. And the term

1627
00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:09,100
builder's remedy is used to

1628
00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:10,100
describe the situation where

1629
00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:11,100
the local agency may be

1630
00:49:11,100 --> 00:49:14,100
required to approve an eligible

1631
00:49:14,100 --> 00:49:15,100
housing development because it

1632
00:49:15,100 --> 00:49:18,100
can't make one of the other 4

1633
00:49:18,100 --> 00:49:19,100
findings. And that may be

1634
00:49:19,100 --> 00:49:21,401
in the situation Planning

1635
00:49:22,100 --> 00:49:23,100
Commission finds themselves

1636
00:49:23,100 --> 00:49:25,401
in this evening. So,

1637
00:49:26,100 --> 00:49:28,100
to talk a little bit

1638
00:49:28,100 --> 00:49:30,100
about the project, the formal

1639
00:49:30,100 --> 00:49:32,401
application is a 2.72-acre

1640
00:49:33,100 --> 00:49:36,100
undeveloped site. It's a 32-lot

1641
00:49:36,100 --> 00:49:38,100
small lot residential

1642
00:49:38,100 --> 00:49:40,100
subdivision. There's 27

1643
00:49:41,100 --> 00:49:42,100
market-rate homes and then 5

1644
00:49:42,100 --> 00:49:44,100
low-income affordable homes.

1645
00:49:44,100 --> 00:49:47,100
There is what we call Parcel A

1646
00:49:47,100 --> 00:49:48,100
with 16 parking spaces,

1647
00:49:48,100 --> 00:49:50,100
a trash enclosure, and

1648
00:49:50,100 --> 00:49:52,100
low-impact development feature.

1649
00:49:52,100 --> 00:49:54,100
17 on-street parking spaces

1650
00:49:55,100 --> 00:49:56,100
on low let me go through

1651
00:49:56,100 --> 00:49:57,100
Road, construction

1652
00:49:57,100 --> 00:50:00,100
of a segment of Los Amigos

1653
00:50:00,100 --> 00:50:02,401
Road to provide entry

1654
00:50:03,100 --> 00:50:04,100
into the site. It's using a

1655
00:50:04,100 --> 00:50:06,100
private narrow residential

1656
00:50:06,100 --> 00:50:07,100
street with a connection to

1657
00:50:07,100 --> 00:50:09,100
Arata Lane and Los Amigos

1658
00:50:09,100 --> 00:50:10,100
Road, private driveways,

1659
00:50:10,100 --> 00:50:12,100
affordable housing waivers,

1660
00:50:12,100 --> 00:50:14,401
and growth control allocations.

1661
00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:19,100
So, this is the tentative

1662
00:50:19,100 --> 00:50:20,100
subdivision map. We're seeing

1663
00:50:20,100 --> 00:50:22,100
Arata Lane, and then this is

1664
00:50:22,100 --> 00:50:24,100
the extension of Los Amigos and

1665
00:50:24,100 --> 00:50:25,100
then we'll see it better here

1666
00:50:25,100 --> 00:50:28,100
on the development plan. So,

1667
00:50:29,100 --> 00:50:30,100
we're changing the orientation

1668
00:50:30,100 --> 00:50:32,100
only to fit it

1669
00:50:32,100 --> 00:50:34,100
on the screen better. So, we

1670
00:50:34,100 --> 00:50:36,100
have Arata Lane, and then we

1671
00:50:36,100 --> 00:50:38,100
have a private narrow

1672
00:50:38,100 --> 00:50:40,100
residential street is what

1673
00:50:40,100 --> 00:50:41,100
they're using. We access here,

1674
00:50:41,100 --> 00:50:42,100
and then we can go

1675
00:50:42,100 --> 00:50:45,601
through the site here and exit

1676
00:50:47,100 --> 00:50:50,100
on Los Amigos Road. So, we kind

1677
00:50:50,100 --> 00:50:51,100
of have this loop, and then it

1678
00:50:51,100 --> 00:50:52,100
circles this way as well. This

1679
00:50:52,100 --> 00:50:55,601
is Parcel A, so we have 16

1680
00:50:56,100 --> 00:50:58,100
parking spaces here. And then

1681
00:50:58,100 --> 00:50:59,100
all of these lots here have

1682
00:50:59,100 --> 00:51:01,401
these are double-frontage lots,

1683
00:51:03,100 --> 00:51:07,100
so they have a front on Los

1684
00:51:07,100 --> 00:51:09,100
Amigos Road, front,

1685
00:51:09,100 --> 00:51:10,100
and then they also front

1686
00:51:10,100 --> 00:51:11,100
on the private street. And then

1687
00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:13,100
we have the same circumstance

1688
00:51:13,100 --> 00:51:14,100
for these lots here on Arata

1689
00:51:14,100 --> 00:51:15,100
Lane.

1690
00:51:15,100 --> 00:51:17,100
>> Okay.

1691
00:51:17,100 --> 00:51:19,100
>> So, this is just a summary

1692
00:51:19,100 --> 00:51:20,100
of the house plan. We have 3

1693
00:51:20,100 --> 00:51:21,100
different house plans. There's

1694
00:51:21,100 --> 00:51:23,100
2 different house plans

1695
00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:24,100
for the detached single-family.

1696
00:51:24,100 --> 00:51:27,100
So P1 detached, P2 detached.

1697
00:51:27,100 --> 00:51:29,100
This just goes

1698
00:51:29,100 --> 00:51:30,100
over what the general size

1699
00:51:30,100 --> 00:51:32,100
of the lots are. So, and then

1700
00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:34,100
the house sizes are,

1701
00:51:34,100 --> 00:51:36,100
and then we have the P3 lots,

1702
00:51:36,100 --> 00:51:38,100
which are the duet homes. So,

1703
00:51:38,100 --> 00:51:40,401
the P-1 detached, they're 3

1704
00:51:43,100 --> 00:51:44,100
bedrooms, there's 14 of them.

1705
00:51:44,100 --> 00:51:46,100
The P-2 lots, they're

1706
00:51:46,100 --> 00:51:48,100
4-bedroom, 2.5-bath, there's

1707
00:51:49,100 --> 00:51:50,100
12 of them. And then we have 6

1708
00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:53,100
duets. And the detached homes,

1709
00:51:55,100 --> 00:51:56,100
they all have attached 2-car

1710
00:51:56,100 --> 00:51:57,100
garages. And then the duet

1711
00:51:57,100 --> 00:51:59,100
homes,

1712
00:51:59,100 --> 00:52:01,100
they have an attached 1-car

1713
00:52:01,100 --> 00:52:02,100
garage, and then they have 1

1714
00:52:02,100 --> 00:52:03,100
driveway space in front

1715
00:52:03,100 --> 00:52:07,100
of the garage. And then this is

1716
00:52:07,100 --> 00:52:08,100
just a showing the elevation,

1717
00:52:08,100 --> 00:52:10,100
the top elevation

1718
00:52:10,100 --> 00:52:12,100
for the detached home,

1719
00:52:12,100 --> 00:52:14,100
those face the private street.

1720
00:52:14,100 --> 00:52:18,201
And then the ones that are not

1721
00:52:19,100 --> 00:52:20,100
colored, they include the porch

1722
00:52:20,100 --> 00:52:22,100
and they face the public

1723
00:52:22,100 --> 00:52:24,100
street, Arata Lane or Los

1724
00:52:24,100 --> 00:52:27,601
Amigos Road. So, when we were

1725
00:52:30,100 --> 00:52:31,100
working with the applicants,

1726
00:52:31,100 --> 00:52:34,100
some of those lots are

1727
00:52:34,100 --> 00:52:36,100
double-frontage lots, we had to

1728
00:52:36,100 --> 00:52:37,100
make a decision which elevation

1729
00:52:37,100 --> 00:52:39,100
is going

1730
00:52:39,100 --> 00:52:41,100
to face the private street.

1731
00:52:41,100 --> 00:52:42,100
So, a couple of things played

1732
00:52:42,100 --> 00:52:44,100
into that. We really can't have

1733
00:52:44,100 --> 00:52:45,100
a whole bunch

1734
00:52:45,100 --> 00:52:47,100
of driveway curb cuts

1735
00:52:47,100 --> 00:52:49,100
on streets like Arata Lane and

1736
00:52:49,100 --> 00:52:50,100
Los Amigos Road. And we really

1737
00:52:50,100 --> 00:52:51,100
did want the public-facing

1738
00:52:51,100 --> 00:52:54,100
porch facing the public street.

1739
00:52:54,100 --> 00:52:57,100
So those porches face Arata

1740
00:52:58,100 --> 00:52:59,100
Lane and Los Amigos Road, and

1741
00:52:59,100 --> 00:53:01,100
there is a walkway

1742
00:53:01,100 --> 00:53:03,100
from that porch,

1743
00:53:04,100 --> 00:53:05,100
which is adjacent

1744
00:53:05,100 --> 00:53:07,100
to a great room,

1745
00:53:07,100 --> 00:53:08,100
and that extends

1746
00:53:08,100 --> 00:53:09,100
to the sidewalk on Arata Lane

1747
00:53:09,100 --> 00:53:10,100
or Los Amigos Road, depending

1748
00:53:10,100 --> 00:53:12,100
on where the house is. And then

1749
00:53:12,100 --> 00:53:15,601
these are the Duet homes. And

1750
00:53:17,100 --> 00:53:20,601
then this is the parking plan.

1751
00:53:22,100 --> 00:53:24,100
So, this is the same as the

1752
00:53:24,100 --> 00:53:25,100
development plan. It's just

1753
00:53:25,100 --> 00:53:26,100
showing the location

1754
00:53:26,100 --> 00:53:27,100
of the parking. So as I was

1755
00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:28,100
saying, each

1756
00:53:28,100 --> 00:53:32,100
of the P-1 or P-2 lots They

1757
00:53:32,100 --> 00:53:33,100
have the 2 garage spaces.

1758
00:53:33,100 --> 00:53:35,401
There are a couple

1759
00:53:36,100 --> 00:53:37,100
of the lots that also have

1760
00:53:37,100 --> 00:53:39,100
space for 2 cars

1761
00:53:39,100 --> 00:53:40,100
in the driveway, lots 1, 32,

1762
00:53:40,100 --> 00:53:42,401
29, and 24. This is shared

1763
00:53:45,100 --> 00:53:47,401
common parking. There are 16

1764
00:53:48,100 --> 00:53:49,100
spaces here at Parcel A,

1765
00:53:49,100 --> 00:53:50,100
and then there are 17 spaces

1766
00:53:50,100 --> 00:53:52,401
that are available, public

1767
00:53:57,100 --> 00:53:58,100
spaces, on Los Amigos Road.

1768
00:53:58,100 --> 00:53:59,100
>> Okay.

1769
00:53:59,100 --> 00:54:00,100
>> And then you'll see here the

1770
00:54:00,100 --> 00:54:02,100
duet has the one attached and

1771
00:54:02,100 --> 00:54:03,100
one in the driveway,

1772
00:54:03,100 --> 00:54:05,100
and there's no on-street

1773
00:54:05,100 --> 00:54:07,100
parking on a rattle lane. And

1774
00:54:07,100 --> 00:54:09,100
so, what I was talking about,

1775
00:54:09,100 --> 00:54:11,100
the porch here,

1776
00:54:12,100 --> 00:54:13,100
and then you have a walkway

1777
00:54:13,100 --> 00:54:14,100
out to the sidewalk. For all

1778
00:54:14,100 --> 00:54:16,100
of these units here,

1779
00:54:16,100 --> 00:54:17,100
that's the orientation. And

1780
00:54:17,100 --> 00:54:20,601
then this is just showing the

1781
00:54:23,100 --> 00:54:24,100
landscape plan.

1782
00:54:24,100 --> 00:54:25,100
>> Okay.

1783
00:54:25,100 --> 00:54:26,100
>> Kim, I'm sorry

1784
00:54:26,100 --> 00:54:28,100
to interrupt real quick. Can

1785
00:54:28,100 --> 00:54:29,100
you go back one slide? When you

1786
00:54:29,100 --> 00:54:30,100
say the ones that are

1787
00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:31,100
on the lower part,

1788
00:54:31,100 --> 00:54:32,100
or I guess western part

1789
00:54:32,100 --> 00:54:34,100
of the property

1790
00:54:34,100 --> 00:54:35,100
>> Yeah, this is the west.

1791
00:54:35,100 --> 00:54:37,100
>> Are those backyards what's

1792
00:54:37,100 --> 00:54:40,100
going to be behind there if I'm

1793
00:54:40,100 --> 00:54:41,100
heading west? Is that the

1794
00:54:41,100 --> 00:54:42,100
church property there?

1795
00:54:42,100 --> 00:54:43,100
>> Yeah, that's New Song

1796
00:54:43,100 --> 00:54:45,100
Church.

1797
00:54:47,100 --> 00:54:48,100
>> Okay, thank you.

1798
00:54:48,100 --> 00:54:50,100
>> Just to clarify

1799
00:54:50,100 --> 00:54:51,100
on this comment, you said

1800
00:54:51,100 --> 00:54:52,100
backyards,

1801
00:54:52,100 --> 00:54:53,100
but I didn't see backyards. Is

1802
00:54:53,100 --> 00:54:55,100
that right?

1803
00:54:55,100 --> 00:54:57,100
>> Well, that is their rear

1804
00:54:57,100 --> 00:54:58,100
yard. So, the rear yards are

1805
00:54:58,100 --> 00:54:59,100
very small.

1806
00:54:59,100 --> 00:55:00,100
>> It's really just the porch,

1807
00:55:00,100 --> 00:55:01,100
right?

1808
00:55:01,100 --> 00:55:02,100
>> Well, it's the porch, and

1809
00:55:02,100 --> 00:55:03,100
there is a it doesn't the porch

1810
00:55:03,100 --> 00:55:04,100
does not go

1811
00:55:04,100 --> 00:55:06,100
to the property line. So, this

1812
00:55:06,100 --> 00:55:07,100
is probably at least 5 feet.

1813
00:55:07,100 --> 00:55:09,100
>> Okay.

1814
00:55:12,100 --> 00:55:13,100
>> And then, so this is the

1815
00:55:13,100 --> 00:55:15,100
landscape plan,

1816
00:55:15,100 --> 00:55:16,100
and then there are 2 trees that

1817
00:55:16,100 --> 00:55:17,100
will be saved on the sites,

1818
00:55:17,100 --> 00:55:19,100
301 and 302. They're oak trees.

1819
00:55:19,100 --> 00:55:21,100
And then there's several

1820
00:55:21,100 --> 00:55:22,100
conditions of approval related

1821
00:55:22,100 --> 00:55:24,100
to the protection

1822
00:55:24,100 --> 00:55:25,100
of these trees. And so the

1823
00:55:25,100 --> 00:55:27,100
application includes a variety

1824
00:55:27,100 --> 00:55:29,401
of affordable housing waivers.

1825
00:55:35,100 --> 00:55:36,100
So, a reduction

1826
00:55:36,100 --> 00:55:38,100
in lot size and lot width,

1827
00:55:38,100 --> 00:55:39,100
reduction in lot depth,

1828
00:55:39,100 --> 00:55:40,100
which is

1829
00:55:40,100 --> 00:55:42,100
from the subdivision ordinance,

1830
00:55:42,100 --> 00:55:43,100
Reduction in the depth

1831
00:55:43,100 --> 00:55:44,100
of the building envelope,

1832
00:55:44,100 --> 00:55:45,100
which is also

1833
00:55:45,100 --> 00:55:47,100
from the subdivision ordinance.

1834
00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:48,100
Reduction

1835
00:55:48,100 --> 00:55:49,100
in the front setback,

1836
00:55:49,100 --> 00:55:50,100
an increase

1837
00:55:50,100 --> 00:55:51,100
in the front setback,

1838
00:55:51,100 --> 00:55:52,100
and a reduction

1839
00:55:52,100 --> 00:55:53,100
in the side setback,

1840
00:55:53,100 --> 00:55:55,100
including zero lot lines

1841
00:55:55,100 --> 00:55:56,100
for the duet homes. Reduction

1842
00:55:56,100 --> 00:55:57,100
in the street side setback,

1843
00:55:57,100 --> 00:55:58,100
the rear setback, reduction

1844
00:55:58,100 --> 00:55:59,100
in the setback

1845
00:55:59,100 --> 00:56:00,100
for the air conditioners,

1846
00:56:00,100 --> 00:56:01,100
increase in lot coverage,

1847
00:56:01,100 --> 00:56:03,100
modification

1848
00:56:04,100 --> 00:56:06,100
for street-facing facades,

1849
00:56:06,100 --> 00:56:07,100
reduction Yes.

1850
00:56:07,100 --> 00:56:09,100
In parking stall depth to 18

1851
00:56:09,100 --> 00:56:11,100
feet from 20. It's notable that

1852
00:56:11,100 --> 00:56:12,100
that reduction actually is

1853
00:56:12,100 --> 00:56:14,100
compliant

1854
00:56:16,100 --> 00:56:17,100
with our current zoning code.

1855
00:56:17,100 --> 00:56:19,401
This project is subject

1856
00:56:20,100 --> 00:56:21,100
to the zoning code in place at

1857
00:56:21,100 --> 00:56:22,100
the time the application was

1858
00:56:22,100 --> 00:56:24,100
determined to be complete. And

1859
00:56:24,100 --> 00:56:26,100
that zoning code,

1860
00:56:28,100 --> 00:56:29,100
the parking stall size was 20

1861
00:56:29,100 --> 00:56:30,100
feet. In the new code,

1862
00:56:30,100 --> 00:56:32,100
it was actually reduced to 18.

1863
00:56:32,100 --> 00:56:33,100
So, if we use the current code,

1864
00:56:33,100 --> 00:56:34,100
it would actually be compliant.

1865
00:56:34,100 --> 00:56:35,100
They're also asking

1866
00:56:35,100 --> 00:56:37,100
for a reduction

1867
00:56:37,100 --> 00:56:38,100
in backup distance. The current

1868
00:56:38,100 --> 00:56:40,100
code is 24 feet,

1869
00:56:45,100 --> 00:56:47,100
which is reduced from 27 feet.

1870
00:56:47,100 --> 00:56:48,100
So, if we were using the

1871
00:56:48,100 --> 00:56:49,100
current code,

1872
00:56:49,100 --> 00:56:50,100
they wouldn't need those 2

1873
00:56:50,100 --> 00:56:51,100
waivers. And then they're also

1874
00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:53,100
asking to use compact spaces

1875
00:56:53,100 --> 00:56:54,100
in a single-family project.

1876
00:56:54,100 --> 00:56:55,100
The previous code does not

1877
00:56:55,100 --> 00:56:58,100
speak to that. silent on

1878
00:56:59,100 --> 00:57:00,100
whether or not that's

1879
00:57:00,100 --> 00:57:01,100
allowable,

1880
00:57:01,100 --> 00:57:03,100
and so they requested a waiver

1881
00:57:03,100 --> 00:57:04,100
to be sure that that was

1882
00:57:04,100 --> 00:57:05,100
permissible. So, the requested

1883
00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:07,000
approvals and environmental

1884
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,100
review, as I mentioned,

1885
00:57:08,100 --> 00:57:09,100
they're asking for approval

1886
00:57:09,100 --> 00:57:10,100
of a tentative subdivision map,

1887
00:57:10,100 --> 00:57:12,100
affordable housing waivers,

1888
00:57:13,100 --> 00:57:15,100
a request for reservation of

1889
00:57:15,100 --> 00:57:17,100
27 growth control allocations,

1890
00:57:17,100 --> 00:57:18,100
which are needed for the

1891
00:57:18,100 --> 00:57:20,100
market-rate housing because

1892
00:57:20,100 --> 00:57:21,100
affordable housing units are

1893
00:57:21,100 --> 00:57:23,100
exempt. They're using state

1894
00:57:23,100 --> 00:57:25,100
density bonus law parking

1895
00:57:25,100 --> 00:57:26,100
standards. And then the

1896
00:57:26,100 --> 00:57:28,100
environmental review was a

1897
00:57:28,100 --> 00:57:29,100
mitigated negative declaration.

1898
00:57:29,100 --> 00:57:30,100
And part of tonight's action

1899
00:57:30,100 --> 00:57:31,100
would be adoption

1900
00:57:31,100 --> 00:57:33,100
of a mitigated excuse me, the

1901
00:57:33,100 --> 00:57:34,100
mitigation monitoring and

1902
00:57:34,100 --> 00:57:35,100
reporting program. And then

1903
00:57:35,100 --> 00:57:36,100
to talk about a little bit

1904
00:57:36,100 --> 00:57:37,100
about the consistency analysis.

1905
00:57:37,100 --> 00:57:38,100
This is the General Plan land

1906
00:57:38,100 --> 00:57:42,201
use map for the North of Arata

1907
00:57:43,100 --> 00:57:45,100
area where the This site is

1908
00:57:45,100 --> 00:57:46,100
located. So, this is the

1909
00:57:46,100 --> 00:57:47,100
project site. It's designated

1910
00:57:47,100 --> 00:57:48,100
general business. And then this

1911
00:57:48,100 --> 00:57:50,100
is the approved Foyle Acres

1912
00:57:50,100 --> 00:57:52,401
project. So, the project

1913
00:57:56,100 --> 00:57:57,100
density is 11.6 units

1914
00:57:57,100 --> 00:57:59,100
to the acre, and it's

1915
00:57:59,100 --> 00:58:01,401
considered a small lot

1916
00:58:06,100 --> 00:58:08,100
subdivision. And so,

1917
00:58:09,100 --> 00:58:10,100
the town is required

1918
00:58:10,100 --> 00:58:13,601
to analyze the project based on

1919
00:58:15,100 --> 00:58:16,100
what is the land use

1920
00:58:16,100 --> 00:58:17,100
designation that best

1921
00:58:17,100 --> 00:58:19,100
represents that project, and

1922
00:58:19,100 --> 00:58:21,100
that's medium-density

1923
00:58:23,100 --> 00:58:24,100
residential. So, this the north

1924
00:58:24,100 --> 00:58:26,100
of Arata area already does

1925
00:58:26,100 --> 00:58:28,100
include medium-density

1926
00:58:29,100 --> 00:58:30,100
residential in the north of

1927
00:58:30,100 --> 00:58:31,100
Arata area. That's this color

1928
00:58:31,100 --> 00:58:33,100
here, also just north of

1929
00:58:33,100 --> 00:58:35,100
Arata Road Lane, and this tiny

1930
00:58:35,100 --> 00:58:37,100
bit here. This allows 8 to 16

1931
00:58:37,100 --> 00:58:39,100
units per acre.

1932
00:58:42,100 --> 00:58:43,100
>> Okay.

1933
00:58:43,100 --> 00:58:45,100
>> And allows small lot

1934
00:58:45,100 --> 00:58:47,100
residential. And then also

1935
00:58:47,100 --> 00:58:48,100
here, this is neighborhood

1936
00:58:48,100 --> 00:58:50,100
center mixed use. This is part

1937
00:58:50,100 --> 00:58:53,100
of the Coyle Acres project.

1938
00:58:53,100 --> 00:58:54,100
This also allows 8 to 16 units

1939
00:58:54,100 --> 00:58:55,100
to acre, which is in the same

1940
00:58:55,100 --> 00:58:56,100
density range as the proposed

1941
00:58:56,100 --> 00:58:59,100
project. So, land use and

1942
00:59:01,100 --> 00:59:02,100
density, as I mentioned,

1943
00:59:02,100 --> 00:59:04,100
general business is the actual

1944
00:59:04,100 --> 00:59:05,100
designation. It does not allow

1945
00:59:05,100 --> 00:59:07,100
residential use because of the

1946
00:59:07,100 --> 00:59:08,100
builder's remedy application.

1947
00:59:08,100 --> 00:59:09,100
they are allowed

1948
00:59:09,100 --> 00:59:10,100
to propose this project

1949
00:59:10,100 --> 00:59:13,100
on this site. Medium density

1950
00:59:13,100 --> 00:59:14,100
residential allows 8 to 16

1951
00:59:14,100 --> 00:59:17,100
units per acre. It allows small

1952
00:59:17,100 --> 00:59:18,100
lot single-family, townhomes,

1953
00:59:18,100 --> 00:59:20,100
small apartment complexes,

1954
00:59:22,100 --> 00:59:23,100
and mobile home parks. And the

1955
00:59:23,100 --> 00:59:25,100
project density is 11.76 units

1956
00:59:25,100 --> 00:59:28,601
per acre. For land use element

1957
00:59:32,100 --> 00:59:34,100
the land use element,

1958
00:59:34,100 --> 00:59:35,100
the north of Arata Community

1959
00:59:35,100 --> 00:59:36,100
place area policy. They have a

1960
00:59:36,100 --> 00:59:38,100
policy that talks about

1961
00:59:38,100 --> 00:59:39,100
efficient development patterns,

1962
00:59:39,100 --> 00:59:40,100
and the project is consistent

1963
00:59:40,100 --> 00:59:41,100
with that. Community design

1964
00:59:41,100 --> 00:59:43,100
transition is consistent

1965
00:59:46,100 --> 00:59:49,100
with the transitions in scale

1966
00:59:49,100 --> 00:59:50,100
policy and residential

1967
00:59:50,100 --> 00:59:51,100
development

1968
00:59:51,100 --> 00:59:52,100
to provide diversity

1969
00:59:52,100 --> 00:59:54,100
of housing types.

1970
00:59:54,100 --> 00:59:56,100
For the housing element,

1971
00:59:56,100 --> 00:59:58,100
same thing encourage a range

1972
00:59:58,100 --> 00:59:59,100
of housing types,

1973
00:59:59,100 --> 01:00:00,100
and it's also consistent with

1974
01:00:00,100 --> 01:00:01,100
our inclusion inclusionary

1975
01:00:01,100 --> 01:00:03,100
housing standards. For

1976
01:00:03,100 --> 01:00:04,100
transportation and mobility,

1977
01:00:04,100 --> 01:00:06,100
it's consistent

1978
01:00:06,100 --> 01:00:08,100
with the town circulation map

1979
01:00:08,100 --> 01:00:09,100
for Los Amigos Road excuse me

1980
01:00:09,100 --> 01:00:10,100
and Arata Lane bicycle and ped

1981
01:00:10,100 --> 01:00:12,100
connectivity,

1982
01:00:12,100 --> 01:00:13,100
street connections

1983
01:00:13,100 --> 01:00:16,100
with new development. And then

1984
01:00:16,100 --> 01:00:18,100
it's also consistent with

1985
01:00:18,100 --> 01:00:19,100
environmental resources

1986
01:00:19,100 --> 01:00:21,100
policies and public health and

1987
01:00:21,100 --> 01:00:22,100
safety policies, including

1988
01:00:22,100 --> 01:00:23,100
emergency vehicle access and

1989
01:00:23,100 --> 01:00:24,100
reviewing projects

1990
01:00:24,100 --> 01:00:25,100
for proposals

1991
01:00:25,100 --> 01:00:29,100
in fire hazard areas. So, as I

1992
01:00:29,100 --> 01:00:31,100
mentioned, affordable housing

1993
01:00:33,100 --> 01:00:34,100
waivers, the project qualifies

1994
01:00:34,100 --> 01:00:36,100
for a density bonus,

1995
01:00:36,100 --> 01:00:37,100
but it was not requested due to

1996
01:00:37,100 --> 01:00:38,100
the affordable housing included

1997
01:00:38,100 --> 01:00:40,100
in the project. And the project

1998
01:00:40,100 --> 01:00:41,100
is eligible

1999
01:00:41,100 --> 01:00:43,100
for unlimited waivers

2000
01:00:43,100 --> 01:00:44,100
for development standards. And

2001
01:00:44,100 --> 01:00:45,100
we already reviewed the waivers

2002
01:00:45,100 --> 01:00:47,100
that are being requested

2003
01:00:47,100 --> 01:00:50,601
for the project. So, talk about

2004
01:00:52,100 --> 01:00:53,100
the zoning standards. I noted

2005
01:00:53,100 --> 01:00:54,100
before, this is not we're not

2006
01:00:54,100 --> 01:00:55,100
using the current zoning code.

2007
01:00:55,100 --> 01:00:56,100
We're using the previous zoning

2008
01:00:56,100 --> 01:00:59,100
code. So allowable uses and

2009
01:00:59,100 --> 01:01:01,100
density in the medium-density

2010
01:01:01,100 --> 01:01:03,100
zoning district, small lot

2011
01:01:03,100 --> 01:01:05,100
single-family residential is

2012
01:01:09,100 --> 01:01:11,100
allowed along with row homes,

2013
01:01:11,100 --> 01:01:12,100
townhomes,

2014
01:01:12,100 --> 01:01:13,100
and small apartment complexes

2015
01:01:13,100 --> 01:01:16,100
at 8 to 12 units per acre.

2016
01:01:16,100 --> 01:01:17,100
So, the project is consistent

2017
01:01:17,100 --> 01:01:18,100
with that at 11.76 units an

2018
01:01:18,100 --> 01:01:21,100
acre as a small lot

2019
01:01:22,100 --> 01:01:23,100
single-family subdivision. The

2020
01:01:23,100 --> 01:01:25,100
town's inclusionary housing

2021
01:01:25,100 --> 01:01:27,100
ordinance requires 10%

2022
01:01:27,100 --> 01:01:28,100
of total units

2023
01:01:28,100 --> 01:01:29,100
to be affordable. This is

2024
01:01:29,100 --> 01:01:31,401
at 15.6%. The units have

2025
01:01:36,100 --> 01:01:37,100
to be built concurrently

2026
01:01:37,100 --> 01:01:38,100
with the affordable have

2027
01:01:38,100 --> 01:01:40,100
to be built concurrent

2028
01:01:40,100 --> 01:01:41,100
with market rate. This is a

2029
01:01:41,100 --> 01:01:42,100
single-phase project. And then

2030
01:01:42,100 --> 01:01:44,100
the bedroom count needs

2031
01:01:44,100 --> 01:01:47,100
to be comparable. So, the Duet

2032
01:01:47,100 --> 01:01:49,100
units are the affordable units.

2033
01:01:49,100 --> 01:01:51,100
They have 4 bedrooms, as do the

2034
01:01:51,100 --> 01:01:52,100
excuse me, the P-2 units. So,

2035
01:01:52,100 --> 01:01:54,100
they are comparable. And then

2036
01:01:54,100 --> 01:01:56,100
for lot size,

2037
01:01:57,100 --> 01:01:59,100
the minimum lot size in

2038
01:01:59,100 --> 01:02:00,100
medium-density residential is

2039
01:02:00,100 --> 01:02:02,100
5,000 square feet. The lot

2040
01:02:02,100 --> 01:02:04,100
width is 50. They've asked

2041
01:02:04,100 --> 01:02:06,100
for waivers for this in order

2042
01:02:06,100 --> 01:02:08,100
to find the project consistent.

2043
01:02:08,100 --> 01:02:10,401
Setbacks, as I mentioned,

2044
01:02:13,100 --> 01:02:15,100
they've asked for waivers.

2045
01:02:15,100 --> 01:02:17,100
Front minimum, maximum, side,

2046
01:02:17,100 --> 01:02:19,100
rear, and street side is 50.

2047
01:02:19,100 --> 01:02:22,100
Well as for the AC units.

2048
01:02:22,100 --> 01:02:23,100
There are some lots that are

2049
01:02:23,100 --> 01:02:25,100
consistent and there are some

2050
01:02:25,100 --> 01:02:27,100
lots where they've asked

2051
01:02:27,100 --> 01:02:28,100
for a waiver. These are

2052
01:02:28,100 --> 01:02:30,401
described in Exhibit F,

2053
01:02:34,100 --> 01:02:37,100
which is the waiver table.

2054
01:02:38,100 --> 01:02:40,100
They've asked for a waiver

2055
01:02:40,100 --> 01:02:41,100
from the lot coverage. The

2056
01:02:41,100 --> 01:02:42,100
maximum is 50%. Some lots are

2057
01:02:42,100 --> 01:02:44,100
consistent.

2058
01:02:44,100 --> 01:02:45,100
For the other lots,

2059
01:02:45,100 --> 01:02:46,100
they've requested a waiver.

2060
01:02:46,100 --> 01:02:47,100
Parking the parking standard is

2061
01:02:47,100 --> 01:02:48,100
2 covered, so all of the

2062
01:02:48,100 --> 01:02:50,100
detached single-family are

2063
01:02:50,100 --> 01:02:51,100
compliant. They all comply to

2064
01:02:51,100 --> 01:02:52,100
parking spaces that are covered

2065
01:02:52,100 --> 01:02:53,100
in the garage. The duets

2066
01:02:53,100 --> 01:02:55,401
provide the required number,

2067
01:02:56,100 --> 01:02:57,100
but they are not covered. So,

2068
01:02:57,100 --> 01:02:59,100
they're using state density

2069
01:02:59,100 --> 01:03:00,100
bonus law to allow the second

2070
01:03:00,100 --> 01:03:02,100
parking space to be a tandem

2071
01:03:02,100 --> 01:03:03,100
space that is uncovered. And

2072
01:03:03,100 --> 01:03:05,100
then the parking space

2073
01:03:05,100 --> 01:03:07,100
dimensions, they're asking

2074
01:03:07,100 --> 01:03:10,100
for a waiver for that.

2075
01:03:10,100 --> 01:03:11,100
But as I mentioned,

2076
01:03:11,100 --> 01:03:12,100
that's consistent

2077
01:03:12,100 --> 01:03:13,100
with the size allowed

2078
01:03:13,100 --> 01:03:15,100
under our current code. And

2079
01:03:15,100 --> 01:03:16,100
then compact spaces,

2080
01:03:16,100 --> 01:03:17,100
they're asking for the waiver

2081
01:03:17,100 --> 01:03:19,100
for that and the reduction

2082
01:03:19,100 --> 01:03:22,601
of backup space, a waiver So

2083
01:03:23,100 --> 01:03:26,100
in order to deny a waiver,

2084
01:03:26,100 --> 01:03:29,100
state law requires one of the

2085
01:03:29,100 --> 01:03:30,100
following findings be made and

2086
01:03:30,100 --> 01:03:31,100
substantially supported

2087
01:03:31,100 --> 01:03:33,100
by substantial evidence, and

2088
01:03:33,100 --> 01:03:34,100
that substantial evidence has

2089
01:03:34,100 --> 01:03:36,100
to be provided by the town. So

2090
01:03:36,100 --> 01:03:38,100
the first is that the waiver

2091
01:03:38,100 --> 01:03:39,100
would have a specific adverse

2092
01:03:39,100 --> 01:03:41,100
impact

2093
01:03:41,100 --> 01:03:42,100
on public health or safety,

2094
01:03:42,100 --> 01:03:43,100
and there is no feasible method

2095
01:03:43,100 --> 01:03:45,100
to mitigate or avoid that

2096
01:03:45,100 --> 01:03:46,100
adverse impact. Impact, or the

2097
01:03:46,100 --> 01:03:47,100
waiver would have a specific

2098
01:03:47,100 --> 01:03:48,100
adverse impact

2099
01:03:48,100 --> 01:03:51,100
on any real property listed

2100
01:03:52,100 --> 01:03:53,100
in the California Register of

2101
01:03:53,100 --> 01:03:54,100
Historical Resources, or the

2102
01:03:54,100 --> 01:03:55,100
waiver would be contrary

2103
01:03:55,100 --> 01:03:56,100
to state or federal law. And

2104
01:03:56,100 --> 01:03:58,401
staff is not aware

2105
01:04:00,100 --> 01:04:01,100
of being able to make any

2106
01:04:01,100 --> 01:04:02,100
of these 3 findings for denial

2107
01:04:02,100 --> 01:04:06,201
of any of the waivers. So for

2108
01:04:10,100 --> 01:04:11,100
the growth control ordinance,

2109
01:04:11,100 --> 01:04:12,100
um, the project does require

2110
01:04:12,100 --> 01:04:14,100
27 for the market rate The

2111
01:04:14,100 --> 01:04:17,100
purpose of the growth control

2112
01:04:17,100 --> 01:04:18,100
ordinance is to accommodate the

2113
01:04:18,100 --> 01:04:20,100
growth anticipated

2114
01:04:20,100 --> 01:04:21,100
under the general plan and to

2115
01:04:21,100 --> 01:04:24,100
manage new development so that

2116
01:04:24,100 --> 01:04:25,100
it occurs concurrently

2117
01:04:25,100 --> 01:04:27,100
with necessary public services,

2118
01:04:27,100 --> 01:04:28,100
facilities,

2119
01:04:28,100 --> 01:04:30,100
and infrastructure. We're

2120
01:04:30,100 --> 01:04:31,100
currently in the last year

2121
01:04:31,100 --> 01:04:34,100
of our 5-year cycle, and our

2122
01:04:34,100 --> 01:04:36,100
growth control allocations are

2123
01:04:36,100 --> 01:04:37,100
based

2124
01:04:37,100 --> 01:04:39,100
on a 1.5% annual growth rate,

2125
01:04:39,100 --> 01:04:40,100
and that's set out in our

2126
01:04:40,100 --> 01:04:43,601
in the town's general plan. We

2127
01:04:44,100 --> 01:04:45,100
have what we call Reserve A

2128
01:04:45,100 --> 01:04:47,100
allocations, and Reserve B

2129
01:04:47,100 --> 01:04:49,100
allocations. Reserve A

2130
01:04:50,100 --> 01:04:51,100
allocations are specifically

2131
01:04:51,100 --> 01:04:52,100
for mixed-use projects or

2132
01:04:52,100 --> 01:04:53,100
projects that are have a

2133
01:04:53,100 --> 01:04:55,100
density of 12 units or greater.

2134
01:04:55,100 --> 01:04:57,100
And as I mentioned, affordable

2135
01:04:57,100 --> 01:04:58,100
units do not require growth

2136
01:04:58,100 --> 01:04:59,100
control allocations.

2137
01:04:59,100 --> 01:05:00,100
Since this project is less than

2138
01:05:00,100 --> 01:05:03,100
12 units per acre and not

2139
01:05:03,100 --> 01:05:04,100
mixed-use, it requires Reserve

2140
01:05:04,100 --> 01:05:05,100
B allocations. So, this is just

2141
01:05:05,100 --> 01:05:06,100
our current table that shows

2142
01:05:06,100 --> 01:05:07,100
where the town is for how many

2143
01:05:07,100 --> 01:05:08,100
growth control allocations are

2144
01:05:08,100 --> 01:05:10,401
currently available. And we

2145
01:05:19,100 --> 01:05:20,100
have a total of 464 growth

2146
01:05:20,100 --> 01:05:22,100
control allocations

2147
01:05:23,100 --> 01:05:25,100
for the rest

2148
01:05:25,100 --> 01:05:27,100
of this 5-year cycle. In

2149
01:05:27,100 --> 01:05:28,100
Reserve B alone, there's 351

2150
01:05:28,100 --> 01:05:30,100
allocations, so there are more

2151
01:05:30,100 --> 01:05:31,100
than enough allocations to

2152
01:05:31,100 --> 01:05:33,401
serve this particular project's

2153
01:05:34,100 --> 01:05:35,100
request for 27. And with that

2154
01:05:35,100 --> 01:05:38,100
27, there would be a granted,

2155
01:05:38,100 --> 01:05:39,100
if they were granted,

2156
01:05:39,100 --> 01:05:41,100
then there would There's 437

2157
01:05:41,100 --> 01:05:43,100
total allocations remaining

2158
01:05:45,100 --> 01:05:47,401
for the 2026 calendar year.

2159
01:05:51,100 --> 01:05:52,100
>> Okay.

2160
01:05:52,100 --> 01:05:53,100
>> Calendar year. So,

2161
01:05:53,100 --> 01:05:54,100
for the subdivision ordinance,

2162
01:05:54,100 --> 01:05:56,100
in order

2163
01:05:56,100 --> 01:05:57,100
to approve a subdivision,

2164
01:05:57,100 --> 01:05:58,100
there are findings required

2165
01:05:58,100 --> 01:05:59,100
for approval that it has

2166
01:05:59,100 --> 01:06:00,100
to be consistent

2167
01:06:00,100 --> 01:06:01,100
with the general plan, zoning

2168
01:06:01,100 --> 01:06:02,100
ordinance, design standards,

2169
01:06:02,100 --> 01:06:03,100
municipal code, and growth

2170
01:06:03,100 --> 01:06:04,100
management ordinance. As we

2171
01:06:04,100 --> 01:06:06,100
discussed, this specific

2172
01:06:06,100 --> 01:06:07,100
project can't be denied because

2173
01:06:07,100 --> 01:06:08,100
it's inconsistent with the

2174
01:06:08,100 --> 01:06:10,100
zoning code or general plan.

2175
01:06:10,100 --> 01:06:11,100
And then we just reviewed that

2176
01:06:11,100 --> 01:06:12,100
there are growth control

2177
01:06:12,100 --> 01:06:13,100
allocations available

2178
01:06:13,100 --> 01:06:15,100
for the project. There are a

2179
01:06:15,100 --> 01:06:17,100
couple

2180
01:06:18,100 --> 01:06:19,100
of development standards in the

2181
01:06:19,100 --> 01:06:21,100
subdivision ordinance that

2182
01:06:25,100 --> 01:06:26,100
apply to this project. One is

2183
01:06:26,100 --> 01:06:27,100
the lot depth of 85 feet and

2184
01:06:27,100 --> 01:06:29,100
the building envelope depth

2185
01:06:29,100 --> 01:06:31,100
of 45 feet. The project's

2186
01:06:31,100 --> 01:06:33,100
either compliant with it or a

2187
01:06:33,100 --> 01:06:34,100
waiver has been requested. And

2188
01:06:34,100 --> 01:06:35,100
the there's the waiver table

2189
01:06:35,100 --> 01:06:38,601
in Exhibit F where they call

2190
01:06:39,100 --> 01:06:40,100
out the specific lots that

2191
01:06:40,100 --> 01:06:41,100
require the waiver and which

2192
01:06:41,100 --> 01:06:43,100
ones are consistent.

2193
01:06:46,100 --> 01:06:47,100
>> There are also

2194
01:06:47,100 --> 01:06:48,100
for subdivisions, there are

2195
01:06:48,100 --> 01:06:49,100
specific findings that are

2196
01:06:49,100 --> 01:06:50,100
needed in order

2197
01:06:50,100 --> 01:06:52,100
to deny a subdivision. So, the

2198
01:06:52,100 --> 01:06:53,100
first is that there are

2199
01:06:53,100 --> 01:06:55,100
insufficient growth control

2200
01:06:56,100 --> 01:06:57,100
allocations available,

2201
01:06:57,100 --> 01:06:59,100
which is not the case. The

2202
01:06:59,100 --> 01:07:00,100
second is that design or

2203
01:07:00,100 --> 01:07:02,401
improvement of the subdivision

2204
01:07:03,100 --> 01:07:04,100
is not consistent with the

2205
01:07:04,100 --> 01:07:06,100
General Plan's zoning,

2206
01:07:07,100 --> 01:07:08,100
applicable specific plan,

2207
01:07:08,100 --> 01:07:09,100
or provision of the code; that

2208
01:07:09,100 --> 01:07:10,100
the site is not specific is not

2209
01:07:10,100 --> 01:07:11,100
physically suitable

2210
01:07:11,100 --> 01:07:12,100
for the type of development;

2211
01:07:12,100 --> 01:07:14,100
the site is not physically

2212
01:07:14,100 --> 01:07:15,100
suitable for the proposed

2213
01:07:15,100 --> 01:07:16,100
density; the design of the

2214
01:07:16,100 --> 01:07:17,100
subdivision or the proposed

2215
01:07:17,100 --> 01:07:19,100
improvements are likely to

2216
01:07:19,100 --> 01:07:20,100
cause substantial environmental

2217
01:07:20,100 --> 01:07:21,100
damage or substantially and

2218
01:07:21,100 --> 01:07:23,401
unavoidably injure fish or

2219
01:07:25,100 --> 01:07:28,100
wildlife or their habitat; the

2220
01:07:29,100 --> 01:07:32,100
design of the subdivision or

2221
01:07:33,100 --> 01:07:34,100
the proposed improvements are

2222
01:07:34,100 --> 01:07:35,100
likely to cause serious public

2223
01:07:35,100 --> 01:07:37,401
health problems; The design

2224
01:07:39,100 --> 01:07:40,100
of the subdivision or type

2225
01:07:40,100 --> 01:07:42,401
of improvements will conflict

2226
01:07:43,100 --> 01:07:44,100
with easements acquired

2227
01:07:44,100 --> 01:07:45,100
by the public at large

2228
01:07:45,100 --> 01:07:46,100
for access through use

2229
01:07:46,100 --> 01:07:47,100
of the property

2230
01:07:47,100 --> 01:07:49,100
within the subdivision,

2231
01:07:52,100 --> 01:07:53,100
or it's subject to a

2232
01:07:53,100 --> 01:07:54,100
Williamson Act contract. Staff

2233
01:07:54,100 --> 01:07:55,100
is not able to make any

2234
01:07:55,100 --> 01:07:56,100
of the findings

2235
01:07:56,100 --> 01:07:57,100
for denial as described

2236
01:07:57,100 --> 01:07:58,100
in the staff report and in the

2237
01:07:58,100 --> 01:08:00,100
draft resolution presented

2238
01:08:00,100 --> 01:08:02,401
to the Planning Commission

2239
01:08:03,100 --> 01:08:05,100
for consideration this evening.

2240
01:08:05,100 --> 01:08:06,100
And so,

2241
01:08:06,100 --> 01:08:07,100
for environmental review,

2242
01:08:07,100 --> 01:08:08,100
Rincon Consultants prepared

2243
01:08:08,100 --> 01:08:10,100
what we call a draft initial

2244
01:08:10,100 --> 01:08:11,100
study. And there were several

2245
01:08:11,100 --> 01:08:12,100
technical studies prepared

2246
01:08:12,100 --> 01:08:14,401
for that, included biological

2247
01:08:15,100 --> 01:08:17,100
resources, cultural resources,

2248
01:08:19,100 --> 01:08:20,100
a transportation impact study,

2249
01:08:20,100 --> 01:08:21,100
an arborist report to look

2250
01:08:21,100 --> 01:08:22,100
at tree resources,

2251
01:08:22,100 --> 01:08:24,100
a wildfire impact analysis,

2252
01:08:24,100 --> 01:08:26,100
and of Phase 1 environmental

2253
01:08:26,100 --> 01:08:28,100
site assessment. And there were

2254
01:08:28,100 --> 01:08:29,100
a variety of mitigation

2255
01:08:29,100 --> 01:08:31,401
measures that were applied

2256
01:08:36,100 --> 01:08:37,100
to the project. And

2257
01:08:37,100 --> 01:08:39,100
with the application

2258
01:08:39,100 --> 01:08:40,100
of those mitigation measures,

2259
01:08:40,100 --> 01:08:41,100
it was found that there would

2260
01:08:41,100 --> 01:08:42,100
be no significant impact

2261
01:08:42,100 --> 01:08:44,100
of the project

2262
01:08:44,100 --> 01:08:45,100
on the environment. So, there

2263
01:08:45,100 --> 01:08:46,100
were mitigation measures

2264
01:08:46,100 --> 01:08:47,100
for biological resources,

2265
01:08:47,100 --> 01:08:49,100
cultural resources,

2266
01:08:50,100 --> 01:08:51,100
paleontological transportation,

2267
01:08:51,100 --> 01:08:53,100
tribal cultural resources,

2268
01:08:53,100 --> 01:08:56,100
and wildfire. And a mitigation

2269
01:08:57,100 --> 01:08:58,100
monitoring and reporting

2270
01:08:58,100 --> 01:09:00,100
program was prepared for the

2271
01:09:00,100 --> 01:09:01,100
project that includes all

2272
01:09:01,100 --> 01:09:03,100
of the mitigation measures.

2273
01:09:03,100 --> 01:09:04,100
The project applicant has

2274
01:09:04,100 --> 01:09:06,100
agreed to all

2275
01:09:06,100 --> 01:09:07,100
of the mitigation measures, and

2276
01:09:07,100 --> 01:09:08,100
they've been included as

2277
01:09:08,100 --> 01:09:10,100
conditions of approval as part

2278
01:09:10,100 --> 01:09:12,100
of the draft resolution.

2279
01:09:12,100 --> 01:09:13,100
Rankin Consultants is available

2280
01:09:13,100 --> 01:09:15,100
this evening

2281
01:09:15,100 --> 01:09:16,100
for any questions that you may

2282
01:09:16,100 --> 01:09:17,100
have about the environmental

2283
01:09:17,100 --> 01:09:19,100
documents. And tonight's

2284
01:09:20,100 --> 01:09:21,100
recommended action is that you

2285
01:09:21,100 --> 01:09:22,100
hold the public hearing and

2286
01:09:22,100 --> 01:09:23,100
adopt a resolution to adopt the

2287
01:09:23,100 --> 01:09:25,100
mitigated negative declaration

2288
01:09:25,100 --> 01:09:26,100
and then adopt a resolution

2289
01:09:26,100 --> 01:09:27,100
approving the Los Amigos

2290
01:09:27,100 --> 01:09:30,100
Cottages project. And then we

2291
01:09:30,100 --> 01:09:31,100
have the resolution titles

2292
01:09:31,100 --> 01:09:32,100
in the event that Planning

2293
01:09:32,100 --> 01:09:35,100
Commission does want to act

2294
01:09:35,100 --> 01:09:36,100
on the project this evening.

2295
01:09:36,100 --> 01:09:37,100
The project applicant is here.

2296
01:09:37,100 --> 01:09:39,100
They also have a PowerPoint

2297
01:09:39,100 --> 01:09:40,100
presentation. And then I'm

2298
01:09:40,100 --> 01:09:42,100
available if you have

2299
01:09:42,100 --> 01:09:44,100
questions.

2300
01:09:51,100 --> 01:09:52,100
>> Great.

2301
01:09:52,100 --> 01:09:53,100
>> Thank you very much.

2302
01:09:53,100 --> 01:09:54,100
At this time, Commissioners, do

2303
01:09:54,100 --> 01:09:55,100
we have any questions for

2304
01:09:55,100 --> 01:09:57,100
staff?

2305
01:10:00,100 --> 01:10:01,100
>> I was just wondering,

2306
01:10:01,100 --> 01:10:02,100
because I was reviewing like

2307
01:10:02,100 --> 01:10:03,100
the traffic and the evacuation

2308
01:10:03,100 --> 01:10:05,100
and the parking or the backup

2309
01:10:05,100 --> 01:10:07,100
turn radius or all those, and

2310
01:10:07,100 --> 01:10:08,100
I'm not quite sure if the I

2311
01:10:08,100 --> 01:10:10,100
couldn't read the size,

2312
01:10:10,100 --> 01:10:11,100
but it looked

2313
01:10:11,100 --> 01:10:14,100
like the streets were 24 feet

2314
01:10:14,100 --> 01:10:17,100
wide. And I was wondering if

2315
01:10:17,100 --> 01:10:18,100
these intended to be one-way,

2316
01:10:18,100 --> 01:10:21,100
or is that expected where is

2317
01:10:21,100 --> 01:10:22,100
there street parking or just no

2318
01:10:22,100 --> 01:10:24,100
street parking and it's a

2319
01:10:24,100 --> 01:10:25,100
two-way road? I couldn't tell

2320
01:10:25,100 --> 01:10:27,100
from the materials.

2321
01:10:31,100 --> 01:10:32,100
>> Yeah, there are no on-street

2322
01:10:32,100 --> 01:10:33,100
parking for a narrow

2323
01:10:33,100 --> 01:10:35,100
residential street, and it's

2324
01:10:35,100 --> 01:10:36,100
Okay.

2325
01:10:36,100 --> 01:10:38,100
>> Not bad.

2326
01:10:39,100 --> 01:10:41,100
>> Thank you.

2327
01:10:45,100 --> 01:10:47,401
>> That was very complete,

2328
01:10:49,100 --> 01:10:52,100
as always. Los Amigos Road,

2329
01:10:52,100 --> 01:10:54,100
just refresh my memory because

2330
01:10:54,100 --> 01:10:55,100
I know it's part

2331
01:10:55,100 --> 01:10:57,100
of another project. The

2332
01:10:57,100 --> 01:10:59,100
extension will go up, curve

2333
01:10:59,100 --> 01:11:01,100
around, and eventually meet the

2334
01:11:01,100 --> 01:11:02,100
next the current other Los

2335
01:11:02,100 --> 01:11:03,100
Amigos Road?

2336
01:11:03,100 --> 01:11:04,100
>> That is true.

2337
01:11:04,100 --> 01:11:05,100
>> And it's going to cut

2338
01:11:05,100 --> 01:11:06,100
through is it going to cut

2339
01:11:06,100 --> 01:11:07,100
through Quail Acres or

2340
01:11:07,100 --> 01:11:08,100
whatever, North Verrada?

2341
01:11:08,100 --> 01:11:09,100
>> It will.

2342
01:11:09,100 --> 01:11:10,100
>> Quail Acres will be building

2343
01:11:10,100 --> 01:11:11,100
all of it from Arata Lane. If

2344
01:11:11,100 --> 01:11:13,401
Quail Acres goes first,

2345
01:11:15,100 --> 01:11:16,100
they would be building all

2346
01:11:16,100 --> 01:11:18,100
of it from the Arata Lane/Los

2347
01:11:18,100 --> 01:11:20,100
Amigos Road intersection

2348
01:11:20,100 --> 01:11:22,100
to connect to the other Los

2349
01:11:22,100 --> 01:11:23,100
Amigos Road, as you're saying.

2350
01:11:23,100 --> 01:11:24,100
If this project goes first,

2351
01:11:24,100 --> 01:11:25,100
it will build that section

2352
01:11:25,100 --> 01:11:26,100
That you saw in the

2353
01:11:26,100 --> 01:11:28,401
presentation that they need

2354
01:11:29,100 --> 01:11:30,100
to provide access

2355
01:11:30,100 --> 01:11:32,100
into their

2356
01:11:32,100 --> 01:11:33,100
>> Like a spur, and then it'll

2357
01:11:33,100 --> 01:11:34,100
>> Right.

2358
01:11:34,100 --> 01:11:35,100
>> We'll get one of those signs

2359
01:11:35,100 --> 01:11:36,100
that it'll connect.

2360
01:11:36,100 --> 01:11:37,100
>> Right.

2361
01:11:37,100 --> 01:11:39,100
>> Okay, thank you.

2362
01:11:42,100 --> 01:11:43,100
>> I have about actual corner

2363
01:11:43,100 --> 01:11:45,100
lots and the wraparound

2364
01:11:45,100 --> 01:11:47,100
porches. So, because this would

2365
01:11:47,100 --> 01:11:48,100
be applicable to 2023, it's

2366
01:11:48,100 --> 01:11:49,100
more

2367
01:11:49,100 --> 01:11:50,100
of the encouraged as opposed

2368
01:11:50,100 --> 01:11:52,100
to.

2369
01:11:54,100 --> 01:11:55,100
>> It's not an objective

2370
01:11:55,100 --> 01:11:56,100
standard, so it doesn't apply

2371
01:11:56,100 --> 01:11:58,100
to the project.

2372
01:11:58,100 --> 01:12:00,100
>> I do have one question.

2373
01:12:00,100 --> 01:12:02,100
>> So, this is the first time

2374
01:12:02,100 --> 01:12:04,100
I've seen one of the dual

2375
01:12:04,100 --> 01:12:05,100
frontage designs.

2376
01:12:05,100 --> 01:12:06,100
>> So, when you have a dual

2377
01:12:06,100 --> 01:12:07,100
frontage project, does that

2378
01:12:07,100 --> 01:12:08,100
affect setbacks differently?

2379
01:12:08,100 --> 01:12:10,100
Are there 2 fronts

2380
01:12:10,100 --> 01:12:11,100
to the house,

2381
01:12:11,100 --> 01:12:12,100
so front setbacks are

2382
01:12:12,100 --> 01:12:14,100
considered for both?

2383
01:12:16,100 --> 01:12:18,100
>> Yes, so normally the

2384
01:12:18,100 --> 01:12:19,100
director has to decide which

2385
01:12:19,100 --> 01:12:20,100
will be the front and then

2386
01:12:20,100 --> 01:12:21,100
figure out if You know, the

2387
01:12:21,100 --> 01:12:23,100
director would determine which

2388
01:12:23,100 --> 01:12:24,100
is the front and then the front

2389
01:12:24,100 --> 01:12:26,100
setback would apply there.

2390
01:12:26,100 --> 01:12:28,100
In this case, it's kind of a

2391
01:12:28,100 --> 01:12:29,100
moot point because they're

2392
01:12:29,100 --> 01:12:30,100
asking for a waiver. So, then

2393
01:12:30,100 --> 01:12:31,100
we just apply whatever setback

2394
01:12:31,100 --> 01:12:33,100
they're asking for because

2395
01:12:33,100 --> 01:12:36,100
of the waiver. As I was saying

2396
01:12:36,100 --> 01:12:37,100
in my presentation,

2397
01:12:37,100 --> 01:12:38,100
when we were working

2398
01:12:38,100 --> 01:12:39,100
with the applicant, we really

2399
01:12:39,100 --> 01:12:40,100
asked that they have a front

2400
01:12:40,100 --> 01:12:42,100
porch orientation

2401
01:12:42,100 --> 01:12:43,100
to the public street, Los

2402
01:12:43,100 --> 01:12:44,100
Amigos Road, and a rattling

2403
01:12:44,100 --> 01:12:45,100
Which doesn't really answer

2404
01:12:45,100 --> 01:12:47,100
your question, but...

2405
01:12:48,100 --> 01:12:50,100
>> It's a waiver,

2406
01:12:51,100 --> 01:12:52,100
so it doesn't matter, right?

2407
01:12:52,100 --> 01:12:53,100
But on like the western-facing

2408
01:12:53,100 --> 01:12:55,100
ones that Commissioner Zahner

2409
01:12:55,100 --> 01:12:56,100
was talking about,

2410
01:12:56,100 --> 01:12:58,100
so the porch is actually

2411
01:12:58,100 --> 01:13:00,100
on the back of those?

2412
01:13:00,100 --> 01:13:01,100
>> That is true,

2413
01:13:01,100 --> 01:13:02,100
because the garage has

2414
01:13:02,100 --> 01:13:03,100
to face the street.

2415
01:13:03,100 --> 01:13:04,100
>> Got it.

2416
01:13:04,100 --> 01:13:05,100
>> Yeah.

2417
01:13:05,100 --> 01:13:06,100
>> Okay.

2418
01:13:06,100 --> 01:13:07,100
>> Thank you.

2419
01:13:07,100 --> 01:13:08,100
>> That's all I have.

2420
01:13:08,100 --> 01:13:09,100
>> It sounds like the applicant

2421
01:13:09,100 --> 01:13:10,100
has a presentation.

2422
01:13:10,100 --> 01:13:12,100
>> Yeah.

2423
01:13:20,100 --> 01:13:21,100
>> Okay, I have to put on my

2424
01:13:21,100 --> 01:13:23,100
glasses so I can find it.

2425
01:13:23,100 --> 01:13:24,100
>> All right, well, while

2426
01:13:24,100 --> 01:13:25,100
Kim's bringing up my

2427
01:13:25,100 --> 01:13:26,100
presentation,

2428
01:13:26,100 --> 01:13:27,100
let me introduce myself. Ken

2429
01:13:27,100 --> 01:13:28,100
McNabb, KMAC Advising,

2430
01:13:28,100 --> 01:13:29,100
representing the developer,

2431
01:13:29,100 --> 01:13:31,100
Rodda Properties, LLC.

2432
01:13:31,100 --> 01:13:34,100
With me this evening is Ben

2433
01:13:34,100 --> 01:13:36,401
Van Zylfen, the developer.

2434
01:13:37,100 --> 01:13:40,100
And Dennis Dalby of Civil

2435
01:13:40,100 --> 01:13:42,401
Design, the project engineer.

2436
01:13:43,100 --> 01:13:44,100
So first, I'd just like

2437
01:13:44,100 --> 01:13:47,100
to thank staff, Patrick, Kim,

2438
01:13:47,100 --> 01:13:49,100
and Kat Harvey,

2439
01:13:49,100 --> 01:13:50,100
for what has been a thorough

2440
01:13:50,100 --> 01:13:52,100
but great collaboration

2441
01:13:52,100 --> 01:13:55,601
over the last 3 years to bring

2442
01:13:57,100 --> 01:13:58,100
the best project forward that's

2443
01:13:58,100 --> 01:13:59,100
before you tonight. We really

2444
01:13:59,100 --> 01:14:01,100
appreciate the guidance we've

2445
01:14:01,100 --> 01:14:02,100
been given and the hard work

2446
01:14:02,100 --> 01:14:03,100
of staff.

2447
01:14:03,100 --> 01:14:04,100
>> Thank you.

2448
01:14:04,100 --> 01:14:06,100
>> So, thank you. As always,

2449
01:14:06,100 --> 01:14:07,100
Kim's report is very thorough.

2450
01:14:07,100 --> 01:14:09,100
We just have a couple

2451
01:14:09,100 --> 01:14:10,100
of things to cover,

2452
01:14:10,100 --> 01:14:11,100
and then we'll be available

2453
01:14:11,100 --> 01:14:13,100
for any questions the

2454
01:14:13,100 --> 01:14:16,100
Commission may have. So first,

2455
01:14:17,100 --> 01:14:20,100
the Los Amigos Cottages project

2456
01:14:20,100 --> 01:14:21,100
is a missing middle development

2457
01:14:21,100 --> 01:14:22,100
project that's going to provide

2458
01:14:22,100 --> 01:14:23,100
homeownership opportunities

2459
01:14:23,100 --> 01:14:24,100
for first-time homebuyers. And

2460
01:14:24,100 --> 01:14:26,401
will provide 5 lower low-income

2461
01:14:27,100 --> 01:14:28,100
households the opportunity

2462
01:14:28,100 --> 01:14:30,401
for homeownership. The project

2463
01:14:32,100 --> 01:14:34,100
consists of 26 detached

2464
01:14:36,100 --> 01:14:38,401
single-family homes and 6 duet

2465
01:14:43,100 --> 01:14:45,401
homes, which Kim described

2466
01:14:46,100 --> 01:14:47,100
to you. 5 of those 6 duet homes

2467
01:14:47,100 --> 01:14:49,100
will be deed restricted

2468
01:14:49,100 --> 01:14:50,100
to be affordable

2469
01:14:50,100 --> 01:14:52,401
to families earning 50% to 80%

2470
01:14:53,100 --> 01:14:56,100
of the area median income.

2471
01:14:59,100 --> 01:15:00,100
>> Okay.

2472
01:15:00,100 --> 01:15:01,100
>> Oops, sorry. Let me go back.

2473
01:15:01,100 --> 01:15:02,100
The lot sizes this is a small

2474
01:15:02,100 --> 01:15:03,100
lot development. Lot sizes

2475
01:15:03,100 --> 01:15:05,401
range from 1,664 square feet

2476
01:15:07,100 --> 01:15:09,100
to 4,680 excuse me,

2477
01:15:09,100 --> 01:15:10,100
did I get that backwards?

2478
01:15:10,100 --> 01:15:13,100
4,860. The average lot size is

2479
01:15:15,100 --> 01:15:16,100
2,564 square feet. And just

2480
01:15:16,100 --> 01:15:19,100
to kind of Give you an idea of

2481
01:15:19,100 --> 01:15:22,100
a comparable project that is

2482
01:15:24,100 --> 01:15:26,100
currently under construction,

2483
01:15:26,100 --> 01:15:27,100
the Old Redwood Highway

2484
01:15:27,100 --> 01:15:28,100
Villages project. And here's

2485
01:15:28,100 --> 01:15:30,401
the lot size range

2486
01:15:31,100 --> 01:15:32,100
for that project. The lot sizes

2487
01:15:32,100 --> 01:15:35,100
actually go a little lower, and

2488
01:15:35,100 --> 01:15:37,100
their average size is a little

2489
01:15:37,100 --> 01:15:39,100
bit lower than Los Amigos

2490
01:15:39,100 --> 01:15:41,100
Cottages, but it's essentially

2491
01:15:41,100 --> 01:15:42,100
the same size lots and a very,

2492
01:15:42,100 --> 01:15:43,100
very close number

2493
01:15:43,100 --> 01:15:45,100
of units.

2494
01:15:48,100 --> 01:15:49,100
>> Okay.

2495
01:15:49,100 --> 01:15:50,100
>> So, they're very comparable,

2496
01:15:50,100 --> 01:15:51,100
if that helps you visualize

2497
01:15:51,100 --> 01:15:52,100
what this project's going

2498
01:15:52,100 --> 01:15:53,100
to look like. There are a

2499
01:15:53,100 --> 01:15:56,100
number of things that Kim

2500
01:15:56,100 --> 01:15:57,100
covered in her report that we

2501
01:15:57,100 --> 01:15:58,100
just want to, you know,

2502
01:15:58,100 --> 01:16:00,100
underscore. Each of the homes

2503
01:16:00,100 --> 01:16:03,100
along Los Amigos Road and

2504
01:16:05,100 --> 01:16:06,100
Arata Lane will be oriented

2505
01:16:06,100 --> 01:16:09,100
to the street. There is a nice

2506
01:16:09,100 --> 01:16:10,100
porch. There is a direct

2507
01:16:10,100 --> 01:16:12,100
connection from the sidewalk

2508
01:16:12,100 --> 01:16:15,100
to the porch and entry

2509
01:16:15,100 --> 01:16:16,100
into the home. Each of the

2510
01:16:16,100 --> 01:16:18,100
homes will have off-street

2511
01:16:18,100 --> 01:16:20,401
parking. The detached homes

2512
01:16:22,100 --> 01:16:23,100
have 2-car garages. Some of

2513
01:16:23,100 --> 01:16:25,100
them have 2-car garages and

2514
01:16:25,100 --> 01:16:26,100
2-car driveways. The duet units

2515
01:16:26,100 --> 01:16:27,100
have 2 off-street spaces, one

2516
01:16:27,100 --> 01:16:30,100
in a garage and one

2517
01:16:30,100 --> 01:16:32,100
in the driveway.

2518
01:16:32,100 --> 01:16:33,100
>> Okay.

2519
01:16:33,100 --> 01:16:34,100
>> This project will also

2520
01:16:34,100 --> 01:16:35,100
include a guest parking area

2521
01:16:35,100 --> 01:16:37,100
for visitors, both

2522
01:16:43,100 --> 01:16:46,601
in the site and along Los

2523
01:16:49,100 --> 01:16:50,100
Amigos Road. The project will

2524
01:16:50,100 --> 01:16:51,100
also advance some of the town's

2525
01:16:51,100 --> 01:16:52,100
circulation interests

2526
01:16:52,100 --> 01:16:54,100
by constructing a portion

2527
01:16:54,100 --> 01:16:55,100
of the Los Amigos Road, whose

2528
01:16:55,100 --> 01:16:57,100
the plan is for that road

2529
01:16:57,100 --> 01:16:58,100
to be realigned to allow

2530
01:16:58,100 --> 01:17:00,100
for future construction

2531
01:17:01,100 --> 01:17:03,100
of a northbound 101 on-ramp.

2532
01:17:03,100 --> 01:17:06,100
The project will also offer the

2533
01:17:06,100 --> 01:17:08,100
town an irrevocable offer

2534
01:17:08,100 --> 01:17:11,100
of dedication along Arata Lane

2535
01:17:11,100 --> 01:17:13,100
so that if and whenever needed,

2536
01:17:13,100 --> 01:17:14,100
Arata Lane can be widened

2537
01:17:14,100 --> 01:17:15,100
to a 5-lane road consistent

2538
01:17:15,100 --> 01:17:17,100
with the general plan

2539
01:17:17,100 --> 01:17:18,100
circulation plan. Kim went over

2540
01:17:18,100 --> 01:17:22,201
the parking. I don't know if I

2541
01:17:28,100 --> 01:17:29,100
need to cover this again

2542
01:17:29,100 --> 01:17:30,100
necessarily. Other than to say

2543
01:17:30,100 --> 01:17:33,601
there will be CC&Rs that

2544
01:17:37,100 --> 01:17:39,100
require the garage spaces be

2545
01:17:39,100 --> 01:17:40,100
used for parking of vehicles,

2546
01:17:40,100 --> 01:17:41,100
not for storage. And there will

2547
01:17:41,100 --> 01:17:43,401
be a homeowners association

2548
01:17:44,100 --> 01:17:47,601
to enforce those CC&Rs. These

2549
01:17:48,100 --> 01:17:51,100
are the elevations. Of the

2550
01:17:58,100 --> 01:17:59,100
detached small lot homes,

2551
01:17:59,100 --> 01:18:01,100
there's 26 of them. There'll be

2552
01:18:01,100 --> 01:18:02,100
2 different architectural

2553
01:18:02,100 --> 01:18:03,100
styles and multiple variations

2554
01:18:03,100 --> 01:18:05,100
available to homebuyers

2555
01:18:06,100 --> 01:18:09,100
for materials and colors. As

2556
01:18:09,100 --> 01:18:11,401
Kim mentioned, the Plan 1

2557
01:18:15,100 --> 01:18:17,100
bungalow units are 1,573 square

2558
01:18:17,100 --> 01:18:18,100
feet, 3-bedroom, 2-bath. We

2559
01:18:18,100 --> 01:18:21,100
have a larger detached home.

2560
01:18:25,100 --> 01:18:26,100
This is the traditional

2561
01:18:26,100 --> 01:18:28,100
elevation shown here.

2562
01:18:29,100 --> 01:18:30,100
>> Okay.

2563
01:18:30,100 --> 01:18:31,100
>> It's 1,797 square feet, 4

2564
01:18:31,100 --> 01:18:32,100
bedrooms, 2.5 bathrooms. This

2565
01:18:32,100 --> 01:18:33,100
is the elevation of the Duet

2566
01:18:33,100 --> 01:18:35,100
units. There's 2 architectural

2567
01:18:35,100 --> 01:18:36,100
styles for this unit, also

2568
01:18:36,100 --> 01:18:37,100
with multiple variations

2569
01:18:37,100 --> 01:18:38,100
for color and materials. And

2570
01:18:38,100 --> 01:18:39,100
this slide shows the project

2571
01:18:39,100 --> 01:18:40,100
in relationship

2572
01:18:40,100 --> 01:18:41,100
to the recently approved,

2573
01:18:41,100 --> 01:18:42,100
or a year ago approved now,

2574
01:18:42,100 --> 01:18:44,100
Quail Acres project. So, you

2575
01:18:44,100 --> 01:18:47,601
can see the relationship or the

2576
01:19:00,100 --> 01:19:01,100
proximity of this development

2577
01:19:01,100 --> 01:19:03,100
to planned and approved

2578
01:19:03,100 --> 01:19:04,100
improvements as part

2579
01:19:04,100 --> 01:19:06,100
of that project. It is going

2580
01:19:06,100 --> 01:19:07,100
to be within walking distance

2581
01:19:07,100 --> 01:19:09,100
of a community park. It will be

2582
01:19:09,100 --> 01:19:10,100
across the street from a future

2583
01:19:10,100 --> 01:19:12,100
neighborhood commercial area.

2584
01:19:14,100 --> 01:19:15,100
And there's not shown

2585
01:19:15,100 --> 01:19:17,100
on this slide,

2586
01:19:18,100 --> 01:19:19,100
there is an existing transit

2587
01:19:19,100 --> 01:19:21,100
Yes. In front of the New Song

2588
01:19:21,100 --> 01:19:23,100
Church property right next

2589
01:19:23,100 --> 01:19:24,100
door. The site's

2590
01:19:24,100 --> 01:19:26,100
about a half mile away

2591
01:19:26,100 --> 01:19:28,401
from the Brooks Elementary

2592
01:19:32,100 --> 01:19:33,100
School and the Michael A. Hall

2593
01:19:33,100 --> 01:19:34,100
hopefully I got that right

2594
01:19:34,100 --> 01:19:36,100
Park to the southeast,

2595
01:19:36,100 --> 01:19:37,100
and also about a half mile,

2596
01:19:37,100 --> 01:19:38,100
maybe a little

2597
01:19:38,100 --> 01:19:41,100
over a half mile, to a small

2598
01:19:41,100 --> 01:19:42,100
community shopping center

2599
01:19:42,100 --> 01:19:44,100
on the other side

2600
01:19:44,100 --> 01:19:45,100
of the highway on Old Redwood

2601
01:19:45,100 --> 01:19:47,100
Highway near Starr. These are

2602
01:19:47,100 --> 01:19:48,100
some visualizations that show

2603
01:19:48,100 --> 01:19:50,401
the project's best side,

2604
01:19:56,100 --> 01:19:59,100
in my opinion. So this one is a

2605
01:19:59,100 --> 01:20:00,100
view from Arata Lane. You can

2606
01:20:00,100 --> 01:20:03,100
see, compared to the elevations

2607
01:20:03,100 --> 01:20:04,100
I was just showing you, the

2608
01:20:04,100 --> 01:20:05,100
porch area is a little more

2609
01:20:05,100 --> 01:20:06,100
substantial in size. There's

2610
01:20:06,100 --> 01:20:08,100
not Facade that's dominated

2611
01:20:08,100 --> 01:20:09,100
by a garage door. There's lots

2612
01:20:09,100 --> 01:20:12,100
of visibility from the living

2613
01:20:13,100 --> 01:20:14,100
area onto the street and a good

2614
01:20:14,100 --> 01:20:15,100
mix of different architectural

2615
01:20:15,100 --> 01:20:16,100
styles and colors and

2616
01:20:16,100 --> 01:20:17,100
materials. This is a view

2617
01:20:17,100 --> 01:20:19,100
from the Coelho Acres project

2618
01:20:19,100 --> 01:20:22,100
across Los Amigos Road where

2619
01:20:23,100 --> 01:20:25,100
the proposed private Street is

2620
01:20:25,100 --> 01:20:26,100
in the Los Amigos Cottages

2621
01:20:26,100 --> 01:20:27,100
project. Again, you can see the

2622
01:20:27,100 --> 01:20:28,100
clear orientation of these

2623
01:20:28,100 --> 01:20:30,401
units towards the street,

2624
01:20:46,100 --> 01:20:48,100
towards the public realm,

2625
01:20:48,100 --> 01:20:49,100
with lots

2626
01:20:49,100 --> 01:20:50,100
of windows and ability

2627
01:20:50,100 --> 01:20:53,100
to view the street from

2628
01:20:54,100 --> 01:20:57,601
within the home. So, we'd just

2629
01:21:00,100 --> 01:21:01,100
like to again thank staff

2630
01:21:01,100 --> 01:21:02,100
for their work

2631
01:21:02,100 --> 01:21:03,100
on this project. We believe

2632
01:21:03,100 --> 01:21:06,100
this is a project that's going

2633
01:21:06,100 --> 01:21:09,100
to be helpful for Windsor in

2634
01:21:09,100 --> 01:21:12,100
not only meeting its housing

2635
01:21:13,100 --> 01:21:14,100
needs but providing

2636
01:21:14,100 --> 01:21:15,100
homeownership opportunities

2637
01:21:15,100 --> 01:21:17,100
for Windsor residents and the

2638
01:21:17,100 --> 01:21:18,100
Windsor workforce. I know a lot

2639
01:21:18,100 --> 01:21:19,100
of the housing being built is

2640
01:21:19,100 --> 01:21:20,100
rental. This is not rental

2641
01:21:20,100 --> 01:21:22,100
housing. This is for-sale

2642
01:21:22,100 --> 01:21:24,100
housing. We believe that's an

2643
01:21:24,100 --> 01:21:25,100
important opportunity, and we

2644
01:21:25,100 --> 01:21:28,100
but we hope that you will agree

2645
01:21:28,100 --> 01:21:31,100
with us and we hope that you

2646
01:21:31,100 --> 01:21:33,100
will support staff's

2647
01:21:34,100 --> 01:21:36,100
recommendation and approve this

2648
01:21:36,100 --> 01:21:38,100
project. Thank you.

2649
01:21:39,100 --> 01:21:40,100
>> Thank you. Do we have any

2650
01:21:40,100 --> 01:21:41,100
questions for the applicant?

2651
01:21:41,100 --> 01:21:43,100
>> I do.

2652
01:21:43,100 --> 01:21:44,100
>> Start down there.

2653
01:21:44,100 --> 01:21:46,401
>> I like the idea

2654
01:21:49,100 --> 01:21:50,100
of providing some of that

2655
01:21:50,100 --> 01:21:51,100
missing middle housing. I was

2656
01:21:51,100 --> 01:21:53,100
concerned when you mentioned

2657
01:21:53,100 --> 01:21:55,100
the HOA and will that price

2658
01:21:55,100 --> 01:21:58,100
out the missing middle? And

2659
01:21:59,100 --> 01:22:00,100
what are your thoughts

2660
01:22:00,100 --> 01:22:02,100
about what kind

2661
01:22:02,100 --> 01:22:03,100
of price point are we going

2662
01:22:03,100 --> 01:22:04,100
to be having

2663
01:22:04,100 --> 01:22:05,100
on this HOA?

2664
01:22:05,100 --> 01:22:06,100
>> I will defer

2665
01:22:06,100 --> 01:22:07,100
to the developer to talk

2666
01:22:07,100 --> 01:22:09,100
about the price point. Yes, an

2667
01:22:09,100 --> 01:22:10,100
HOA can potentially add

2668
01:22:10,100 --> 01:22:13,100
to the monthly housing costs.

2669
01:22:14,100 --> 01:22:15,100
However, in collaborating and

2670
01:22:15,100 --> 01:22:17,100
discussing this project

2671
01:22:19,100 --> 01:22:20,100
with staff,

2672
01:22:20,100 --> 01:22:21,100
we were strongly encouraged to

2673
01:22:21,100 --> 01:22:22,100
have an HOA because town staff

2674
01:22:22,100 --> 01:22:25,100
does not want to enforce

2675
01:22:26,100 --> 01:22:27,100
potential parking issues and

2676
01:22:27,100 --> 01:22:28,100
other residential issues. And

2677
01:22:28,100 --> 01:22:32,100
Ben, I don't know if you have

2678
01:22:32,100 --> 01:22:34,401
any sense on that.

2679
01:22:37,100 --> 01:22:38,100
>> Hi, I'm Ben. We haven't done

2680
01:22:38,100 --> 01:22:39,100
the reserve study and the

2681
01:22:39,100 --> 01:22:40,100
budget for it, but it's mainly

2682
01:22:40,100 --> 01:22:41,100
like a policing thing,

2683
01:22:41,100 --> 01:22:43,401
like a neighborhood police.

2684
01:22:44,100 --> 01:22:45,100
>> There's not a lot

2685
01:22:45,100 --> 01:22:46,100
of stuff that's going

2686
01:22:46,100 --> 01:22:47,100
to be maintained

2687
01:22:47,100 --> 01:22:50,601
by the association, so the cost

2688
01:22:53,100 --> 01:22:55,100
shouldn't be huge.

2689
01:22:55,100 --> 01:22:56,100
>> So, the idea will still be

2690
01:22:56,100 --> 01:22:57,100
to focus on that missing middle

2691
01:22:57,100 --> 01:22:58,100
demographic in terms

2692
01:22:58,100 --> 01:23:00,100
of the discrete market.

2693
01:23:00,100 --> 01:23:01,100
>> This is housing that you can

2694
01:23:01,100 --> 01:23:02,100
like a new house that you can

2695
01:23:02,100 --> 01:23:03,100
actually afford as a first-time

2696
01:23:03,100 --> 01:23:04,100
buyer, you know, which isn't

2697
01:23:04,100 --> 01:23:06,100
really available.

2698
01:23:07,100 --> 01:23:08,100
>> And yeah, but the

2699
01:23:08,100 --> 01:23:09,100
association dues will be

2700
01:23:09,100 --> 01:23:10,100
nominal because there's not a

2701
01:23:10,100 --> 01:23:11,100
lot of stuff to take care of.

2702
01:23:11,100 --> 01:23:12,100
It's mainly establishing a

2703
01:23:12,100 --> 01:23:15,100
police force for the city.

2704
01:23:15,100 --> 01:23:16,100
>> For CC&R enforcement

2705
01:23:16,100 --> 01:23:17,100
program.

2706
01:23:17,100 --> 01:23:18,100
>> Yeah, so you guys don't have

2707
01:23:18,100 --> 01:23:19,100
to deal with this stuff then.

2708
01:23:19,100 --> 01:23:20,100
The association deals

2709
01:23:20,100 --> 01:23:21,100
with it.

2710
01:23:21,100 --> 01:23:22,100
>> Before you go, I'm going

2711
01:23:22,100 --> 01:23:24,100
to drill down.

2712
01:23:24,100 --> 01:23:26,100
>> Oh yeah.

2713
01:23:27,100 --> 01:23:28,100
>> You said nominal and then

2714
01:23:28,100 --> 01:23:29,100
you said not that much.

2715
01:23:29,100 --> 01:23:30,100
>> What is like,

2716
01:23:30,100 --> 01:23:31,100
give me a range.

2717
01:23:31,100 --> 01:23:33,100
>> You know, I would say so I

2718
01:23:33,100 --> 01:23:35,100
haven't done the study now,

2719
01:23:35,100 --> 01:23:37,100
so I don't want to say a number

2720
01:23:37,100 --> 01:23:39,100
because I'd just be throwing

2721
01:23:39,100 --> 01:23:40,100
something out. But

2722
01:23:40,100 --> 01:23:41,100
in similar projects,

2723
01:23:41,100 --> 01:23:42,100
I've had cost centers of like

2724
01:23:42,100 --> 01:23:43,100
$36 to $78, you know, under

2725
01:23:43,100 --> 01:23:45,100
in the $100 range, you know.

2726
01:23:45,100 --> 01:23:47,100
But I haven't

2727
01:23:50,100 --> 01:23:52,100
with similar projects that are

2728
01:23:52,100 --> 01:23:53,100
like this,

2729
01:23:53,100 --> 01:23:56,100
but I haven't done this one, so

2730
01:23:56,100 --> 01:23:57,100
I don't know exactly what it

2731
01:23:57,100 --> 01:23:58,100
is.

2732
01:23:58,100 --> 01:23:59,100
>> We won't hold you to it.

2733
01:23:59,100 --> 01:24:00,100
>> Yeah, okay.

2734
01:24:00,100 --> 01:24:01,100
>> But a range is helpful.

2735
01:24:01,100 --> 01:24:03,100
>> Thank you. Yep.

2736
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:06,100
>> And are the parking spaces

2737
01:24:06,100 --> 01:24:08,100
along Los Amigos, are those

2738
01:24:08,100 --> 01:24:09,100
enforced by the CC&Rs or are

2739
01:24:09,100 --> 01:24:10,100
those public?

2740
01:24:10,100 --> 01:24:11,100
>> No, those are

2741
01:24:11,100 --> 01:24:12,100
on public streets,

2742
01:24:12,100 --> 01:24:13,100
so those would be enforced

2743
01:24:13,100 --> 01:24:14,100
by the town,

2744
01:24:14,100 --> 01:24:15,100
would be my expectation. The

2745
01:24:15,100 --> 01:24:16,100
street internal to the project

2746
01:24:16,100 --> 01:24:18,100
is a private street,

2747
01:24:18,100 --> 01:24:20,100
so that's part

2748
01:24:20,100 --> 01:24:21,100
of the maintenance obligation

2749
01:24:21,100 --> 01:24:23,100
of the owners and the HOA.

2750
01:24:23,100 --> 01:24:25,100
>> Wow.

2751
01:24:27,100 --> 01:24:28,100
>> Oh, go ahead. Can I show my

2752
01:24:28,100 --> 01:24:29,100
picture? It looks like a little

2753
01:24:29,100 --> 01:24:30,100
open space maybe?

2754
01:24:30,100 --> 01:24:32,100
>> Yeah, it's a drainage

2755
01:24:32,100 --> 01:24:34,100
detention facility. So, the

2756
01:24:34,100 --> 01:24:36,401
town requires that surface

2757
01:24:37,100 --> 01:24:38,100
water runoff be captured and

2758
01:24:38,100 --> 01:24:40,100
treated before discharge.

2759
01:24:42,100 --> 01:24:43,100
>> It's not a great place

2760
01:24:43,100 --> 01:24:45,100
to have your kids play.

2761
01:24:45,100 --> 01:24:46,100
>> It's not designed for kids

2762
01:24:46,100 --> 01:24:47,100
to play, right.

2763
01:24:47,100 --> 01:24:50,100
>> But we're close enough to

2764
01:24:51,100 --> 01:24:52,100
the proposed community park

2765
01:24:52,100 --> 01:24:55,100
that it doesn't really warrant

2766
01:24:55,100 --> 01:24:57,100
in this and then

2767
01:24:57,100 --> 01:24:59,100
in this little part

2768
01:24:59,100 --> 01:25:00,100
of the drawing the drawing,

2769
01:25:00,100 --> 01:25:02,100
these are architectural plans,

2770
01:25:02,100 --> 01:25:03,100
but it's a drawing to me.

2771
01:25:03,100 --> 01:25:05,100
>> What is this?

2772
01:25:07,100 --> 01:25:09,100
>> Are you talking

2773
01:25:09,100 --> 01:25:10,100
about the?

2774
01:25:10,100 --> 01:25:12,100
>> There's the little square

2775
01:25:12,100 --> 01:25:13,100
over in the corner of the

2776
01:25:13,100 --> 01:25:14,100
>> Yeah, that's a waste

2777
01:25:14,100 --> 01:25:16,401
collection facility. So, half

2778
01:25:18,100 --> 01:25:19,100
of the project will be served

2779
01:25:19,100 --> 01:25:20,100
by a common waste collection

2780
01:25:20,100 --> 01:25:21,100
facility and the other half

2781
01:25:21,100 --> 01:25:23,100
will be served by Toad or

2782
01:25:23,100 --> 01:25:25,100
Service.

2783
01:25:25,100 --> 01:25:26,100
>> Okay.

2784
01:25:26,100 --> 01:25:27,100
>> Dumpster.

2785
01:25:27,100 --> 01:25:29,100
>> Dumpster, yeah.

2786
01:25:29,100 --> 01:25:31,100
>> Not cheese curds.

2787
01:25:32,100 --> 01:25:33,100
>> I'm trying to use the terms

2788
01:25:33,100 --> 01:25:34,100
your waste hauler would use.

2789
01:25:34,100 --> 01:25:36,100
>> Anything else, sir?

2790
01:25:38,100 --> 01:25:39,100
>> No, not yet.

2791
01:25:39,100 --> 01:25:40,100
>> For the parking on Los

2792
01:25:40,100 --> 01:25:42,100
Amigos and the bike route,

2793
01:25:42,100 --> 01:25:44,100
is it going

2794
01:25:44,100 --> 01:25:46,100
to be protected parking? Where

2795
01:25:46,100 --> 01:25:48,100
the bike will be on the inside

2796
01:25:48,100 --> 01:25:50,100
in between the parking and the

2797
01:25:50,100 --> 01:25:52,100
sidewalk?

2798
01:25:54,100 --> 01:25:55,100
>> I believe that will be the

2799
01:25:55,100 --> 01:25:56,100
configuration,

2800
01:25:56,100 --> 01:25:58,100
yes. I did forget to mention,

2801
01:25:58,100 --> 01:25:59,100
for what it's worth,

2802
01:25:59,100 --> 01:26:01,100
I know it's kind

2803
01:26:01,100 --> 01:26:02,100
of a random thought now, this

2804
01:26:02,100 --> 01:26:03,100
project I believe is the first

2805
01:26:03,100 --> 01:26:04,100
project subject to the town's

2806
01:26:04,100 --> 01:26:06,401
recently adopted greenhouse gas

2807
01:26:07,100 --> 01:26:08,100
emissions checklist process.

2808
01:26:08,100 --> 01:26:11,100
And we are meeting that

2809
01:26:11,100 --> 01:26:12,100
checklist. checklist. So,

2810
01:26:12,100 --> 01:26:14,100
for what it's worth, we're

2811
01:26:14,100 --> 01:26:16,401
advancing that interest as

2812
01:26:19,100 --> 01:26:21,100
well.

2813
01:26:23,100 --> 01:26:24,100
>> A couple questions real

2814
01:26:24,100 --> 01:26:26,100
quick, okay? My first question

2815
01:26:26,100 --> 01:26:28,100
is, I couldn't tell, I'm sorry,

2816
01:26:28,100 --> 01:26:29,100
from the drawings here,

2817
01:26:29,100 --> 01:26:31,100
how big are the porches? How

2818
01:26:31,100 --> 01:26:32,100
deep are they and how wide are

2819
01:26:32,100 --> 01:26:33,100
they?

2820
01:26:33,100 --> 01:26:34,100
>> Do you know off the top

2821
01:26:34,100 --> 01:26:35,100
of your head?

2822
01:26:35,100 --> 01:26:36,100
>> Oh, right.

2823
01:26:36,100 --> 01:26:39,100
>> She did all the work.

2824
01:26:40,100 --> 01:26:42,401
>> Okay. So, Plan 1 the,

2825
01:26:45,100 --> 01:26:47,401
the rear porch 13 by 6, 78

2826
01:26:51,100 --> 01:26:54,100
square feet. And then the

2827
01:26:54,100 --> 01:26:56,100
covered entry, which is not a

2828
01:26:56,100 --> 01:26:58,401
porch, is 6 by 14, 84 square

2829
01:26:59,100 --> 01:27:02,601
feet. And then P2 6 by 15 is

2830
01:27:04,100 --> 01:27:06,100
the covered porch, so 90 square

2831
01:27:06,100 --> 01:27:09,100
feet. And then they have a

2832
01:27:09,100 --> 01:27:11,100
differently oriented covered

2833
01:27:11,100 --> 01:27:12,100
entry where you probably could

2834
01:27:12,100 --> 01:27:15,100
put a little chair out there,

2835
01:27:15,100 --> 01:27:17,100
which is 3.5 by 9.

2836
01:27:20,100 --> 01:27:21,100
>> Okay.

2837
01:27:21,100 --> 01:27:22,100
>> So, it's 31.5 square feet.

2838
01:27:22,100 --> 01:27:24,100
And then the duet porch is 6

2839
01:27:24,100 --> 01:27:26,401
by 13 feet 8 inches, so 81

2840
01:27:28,100 --> 01:27:29,100
square feet. So, they are all

2841
01:27:29,100 --> 01:27:31,100
usable porches.

2842
01:27:33,100 --> 01:27:34,100
>> As long as you don't have

2843
01:27:34,100 --> 01:27:37,100
to walk around the chair.

2844
01:27:38,100 --> 01:27:39,100
>> I find them quite usable.

2845
01:27:39,100 --> 01:27:40,100
I was actually very impressed

2846
01:27:40,100 --> 01:27:42,100
with the size of the porch.

2847
01:27:42,100 --> 01:27:43,100
>> Are you looking at the

2848
01:27:43,100 --> 01:27:44,100
plan? I'm just finding which

2849
01:27:44,100 --> 01:27:45,100
document you're looking at.

2850
01:27:45,100 --> 01:27:46,100
>> I'm looking at the

2851
01:27:46,100 --> 01:27:48,100
architectural plans.

2852
01:27:48,100 --> 01:27:49,100
>> Okay, and those are

2853
01:27:49,100 --> 01:27:50,100
in this,

2854
01:27:50,100 --> 01:27:51,100
the same thing that's

2855
01:27:51,100 --> 01:27:52,100
in our packet here? The same

2856
01:27:52,100 --> 01:27:53,100
ones?

2857
01:27:53,100 --> 01:27:54,100
>> Yeah, I'm looking

2858
01:27:54,100 --> 01:27:55,100
at those.

2859
01:27:55,100 --> 01:27:56,100
>> Okay, so I'm gonna look

2860
01:27:56,100 --> 01:27:57,100
here.

2861
01:27:57,100 --> 01:27:58,100
>> I printed them out so that

2862
01:27:58,100 --> 01:27:59,100
I could...

2863
01:27:59,100 --> 01:28:00,100
>> Advantage you,

2864
01:28:00,100 --> 01:28:01,100
because yeah.

2865
01:28:01,100 --> 01:28:02,100
>> Exactly.

2866
01:28:02,100 --> 01:28:03,100
>> Here's my

2867
01:28:03,100 --> 01:28:04,100
worry for the applicant. You

2868
01:28:04,100 --> 01:28:06,100
mentioned Old Redwood

2869
01:28:06,100 --> 01:28:08,100
High Villages, whatever it

2870
01:28:08,100 --> 01:28:10,100
was called. Yeah, Quail

2871
01:28:10,100 --> 01:28:11,100
Villages, Oaks, Windsor, you

2872
01:28:11,100 --> 01:28:12,100
know,

2873
01:28:12,100 --> 01:28:13,100
we need them all the same.

2874
01:28:13,100 --> 01:28:14,100
Those are tiny porches,

2875
01:28:14,100 --> 01:28:15,100
right? The ones right there

2876
01:28:15,100 --> 01:28:17,100
on Old River Highway, they're

2877
01:28:17,100 --> 01:28:18,100
unusable. And now we've put

2878
01:28:18,100 --> 01:28:19,100
up these funny little fences

2879
01:28:19,100 --> 01:28:20,100
there. Yeah,

2880
01:28:20,100 --> 01:28:23,601
it's not awesome. And I don't

2881
01:28:24,100 --> 01:28:25,100
know if you guys are the

2882
01:28:25,100 --> 01:28:26,100
builders or not. It sounds

2883
01:28:26,100 --> 01:28:28,100
like you were. No?

2884
01:28:28,100 --> 01:28:29,100
>> No, we're not.

2885
01:28:29,100 --> 01:28:30,100
Just to clarify,

2886
01:28:30,100 --> 01:28:32,100
the comparison to Old

2887
01:28:32,100 --> 01:28:33,100
Redwood Highway Villages was

2888
01:28:33,100 --> 01:28:36,100
lot size, not product type.

2889
01:28:39,100 --> 01:28:40,100
>> So just to Kim's point,

2890
01:28:40,100 --> 01:28:41,100
these are usable. You can

2891
01:28:41,100 --> 01:28:42,100
actually put chairs

2892
01:28:42,100 --> 01:28:45,100
out there and we can wave at

2893
01:28:45,100 --> 01:28:47,100
these people and build

2894
01:28:47,100 --> 01:28:48,100
connection there is our

2895
01:28:48,100 --> 01:28:50,100
feeling there. And Kim, you

2896
01:28:50,100 --> 01:28:51,100
feel that way?

2897
01:28:51,100 --> 01:28:53,100
>> Yeah, that's what staff

2898
01:28:53,100 --> 01:28:55,100
asked for.

2899
01:28:55,100 --> 01:28:57,100
They had the pleasure

2900
01:28:57,100 --> 01:28:58,100
of working with us on Quail

2901
01:28:58,100 --> 01:29:00,401
Acres. So when they...

2902
01:29:01,100 --> 01:29:02,100
>> What an honor.

2903
01:29:02,100 --> 01:29:03,100
>> It was.

2904
01:29:03,100 --> 01:29:05,100
>> So, they knew when they

2905
01:29:05,100 --> 01:29:06,100
designed this project what

2906
01:29:06,100 --> 01:29:07,100
the expectation was

2907
01:29:07,100 --> 01:29:09,100
for porches.

2908
01:29:09,100 --> 01:29:10,100
>> Good.

2909
01:29:10,100 --> 01:29:11,100
>> And the orientation

2910
01:29:11,100 --> 01:29:12,100
to the street.

2911
01:29:12,100 --> 01:29:13,100
>> Okay.

2912
01:29:13,100 --> 01:29:14,100
>> So, I expect that that's

2913
01:29:14,100 --> 01:29:15,100
why we're seeing porches

2914
01:29:15,100 --> 01:29:16,100
with these dimensions.

2915
01:29:16,100 --> 01:29:17,100
>> Good.

2916
01:29:17,100 --> 01:29:18,100
>> And that's just me being

2917
01:29:18,100 --> 01:29:19,100
frank with you about it. The

2918
01:29:19,100 --> 01:29:20,100
other thing that this project

2919
01:29:20,100 --> 01:29:21,100
has in common with Old

2920
01:29:21,100 --> 01:29:23,401
Redwood Highway Villages is

2921
01:29:24,100 --> 01:29:25,100
some of the lots also have

2922
01:29:25,100 --> 01:29:27,100
this side yard, the usable

2923
01:29:27,100 --> 01:29:30,100
side yard where it's shared.

2924
01:29:31,100 --> 01:29:32,100
So that's 6 feet wide. So

2925
01:29:32,100 --> 01:29:34,100
they'll have the porch,

2926
01:29:34,100 --> 01:29:35,100
and then some also have

2927
01:29:35,100 --> 01:29:36,100
the side yard shared where

2928
01:29:36,100 --> 01:29:38,100
it's, I don't know, up to

2929
01:29:38,100 --> 01:29:40,100
8, 10 feet wide. It shows on

2930
01:29:40,100 --> 01:29:42,100
the development plan. I might

2931
01:29:42,100 --> 01:29:43,100
be able

2932
01:29:43,100 --> 01:29:44,100
to show you that as well.

2933
01:29:44,100 --> 01:29:45,100
>> Okay.

2934
01:29:45,100 --> 01:29:46,100
>> So they might have 2

2935
01:29:46,100 --> 01:29:47,100
spaces, plus if they have a

2936
01:29:47,100 --> 01:29:48,100
large enough rear yard space

2937
01:29:48,100 --> 01:29:49,100
as well.

2938
01:29:49,100 --> 01:29:51,100
>> Okay, so thank you

2939
01:29:51,100 --> 01:29:52,100
on that one,

2940
01:29:52,100 --> 01:29:54,401
and that was good.

2941
01:29:55,100 --> 01:29:56,100
Thank you. Did we mention,

2942
01:29:56,100 --> 01:29:58,100
like, this goes back to the

2943
01:29:58,100 --> 01:29:59,100
back porch thing that's

2944
01:29:59,100 --> 01:30:02,100
facing the church lot. Is

2945
01:30:03,100 --> 01:30:04,100
there plans for a fence

2946
01:30:04,100 --> 01:30:07,100
along that property line? So

2947
01:30:07,100 --> 01:30:08,100
there'll be a back porch that

2948
01:30:08,100 --> 01:30:09,100
looks at a fence?

2949
01:30:09,100 --> 01:30:10,100
>> Yes.

2950
01:30:10,100 --> 01:30:11,100
>> Yeah, there is a small

2951
01:30:11,100 --> 01:30:12,100
porch. There will be a fence

2952
01:30:12,100 --> 01:30:15,100
and there'll be, you know,

2953
01:30:15,100 --> 01:30:17,100
depending on which lot,

2954
01:30:17,100 --> 01:30:19,100
they vary in depth, but the

2955
01:30:19,100 --> 01:30:20,100
smaller lots will have, you

2956
01:30:20,100 --> 01:30:22,100
know, I believe about 5 feet

2957
01:30:22,100 --> 01:30:23,100
between the back of the porch

2958
01:30:23,100 --> 01:30:25,100
and the fence.

2959
01:30:26,100 --> 01:30:27,100
>> Okay.

2960
01:30:27,100 --> 01:30:28,100
>> And the usable yard area

2961
01:30:28,100 --> 01:30:30,100
that Kim was referring to,

2962
01:30:30,100 --> 01:30:31,100
there'll be exclusive use

2963
01:30:31,100 --> 01:30:32,100
easements

2964
01:30:32,100 --> 01:30:34,100
on an adjoining side yard.

2965
01:30:34,100 --> 01:30:35,100
So the 2 side yard areas of

2966
01:30:35,100 --> 01:30:36,100
2 houses will be combined

2967
01:30:36,100 --> 01:30:37,100
into one yard area

2968
01:30:37,100 --> 01:30:40,601
for the exclusive use of one

2969
01:30:41,100 --> 01:30:42,100
of the homes.

2970
01:30:42,100 --> 01:30:44,100
>> So no fence there

2971
01:30:44,100 --> 01:30:45,100
between it? That's what I was

2972
01:30:45,100 --> 01:30:46,100
trying to figure out.

2973
01:30:46,100 --> 01:30:48,100
>> Yeah.

2974
01:30:49,100 --> 01:30:51,100
>> Okay. Because we talked

2975
01:30:51,100 --> 01:30:52,100
about the 3-foot setbacks

2976
01:30:52,100 --> 01:30:54,100
on each side of some

2977
01:30:54,100 --> 01:30:55,100
of these lots, right?

2978
01:30:55,100 --> 01:30:57,100
>> But some

2979
01:30:57,100 --> 01:30:59,100
of them are small. What most

2980
01:30:59,100 --> 01:31:00,100
of them are,

2981
01:31:00,100 --> 01:31:01,100
I would say some

2982
01:31:01,100 --> 01:31:02,100
of them are not that,

2983
01:31:02,100 --> 01:31:03,100
but they're being combined.

2984
01:31:03,100 --> 01:31:04,100
You can see

2985
01:31:04,100 --> 01:31:05,100
in this slide here,

2986
01:31:05,100 --> 01:31:08,100
it says exclusive yard area.

2987
01:31:08,100 --> 01:31:09,100
So, like, between lots 6 and

2988
01:31:09,100 --> 01:31:12,100
7, one lot has the setback

2989
01:31:12,100 --> 01:31:13,100
itself,

2990
01:31:13,100 --> 01:31:14,100
and then it's combined with

2991
01:31:14,100 --> 01:31:15,100
the side yard setback

2992
01:31:15,100 --> 01:31:18,100
adjacent to it. With an

2993
01:31:18,100 --> 01:31:20,100
easement so that one lot that

2994
01:31:20,100 --> 01:31:22,100
is their private side yard,

2995
01:31:22,100 --> 01:31:23,100
and then there will be a

2996
01:31:23,100 --> 01:31:25,100
fence so that they have the

2997
01:31:25,100 --> 01:31:26,100
exclusive use of that area,

2998
01:31:26,100 --> 01:31:28,100
which is the same setup as

2999
01:31:28,100 --> 01:31:30,100
Old Redwood Highway

3000
01:31:30,100 --> 01:31:32,100
Villages. So this project in

3001
01:31:32,100 --> 01:31:33,100
some respects actually has

3002
01:31:33,100 --> 01:31:34,100
more outdoor space than Old

3003
01:31:34,100 --> 01:31:36,100
Redwood Highway Villages

3004
01:31:36,100 --> 01:31:37,100
because some lots will have

3005
01:31:37,100 --> 01:31:39,100
their porch,

3006
01:31:39,100 --> 01:31:40,100
they'll have their yard,

3007
01:31:40,100 --> 01:31:41,100
their front yard, and then

3008
01:31:41,100 --> 01:31:43,100
they will have an exclusive

3009
01:31:43,100 --> 01:31:45,100
side yard area as well.

3010
01:31:45,100 --> 01:31:46,100
>> Okay.

3011
01:31:46,100 --> 01:31:47,100
>> So they might actually

3012
01:31:47,100 --> 01:31:48,100
have more usable outdoor

3013
01:31:48,100 --> 01:31:50,100
space than Old Redwood Highway

3014
01:31:50,100 --> 01:31:51,100
Villages.

3015
01:31:51,100 --> 01:31:53,100
>> Interesting. And I'm fine.

3016
01:31:53,100 --> 01:31:54,100
I've lived in houses that are

3017
01:31:54,100 --> 01:31:55,100
closer than 3 feet together

3018
01:31:55,100 --> 01:31:57,100
in my past.

3019
01:31:57,100 --> 01:31:58,100
>> Sometimes it's just

3020
01:31:58,100 --> 01:31:59,100
helpful to have a context of

3021
01:31:59,100 --> 01:32:01,100
a real project we've seen.

3022
01:32:01,100 --> 01:32:02,100
>> And I appreciate that.

3023
01:32:02,100 --> 01:32:03,100
Our next question, and

3024
01:32:03,100 --> 01:32:04,100
Commissioner Rennie kind

3025
01:32:04,100 --> 01:32:05,100
of brought this up, the

3026
01:32:05,100 --> 01:32:07,100
private road you said has

3027
01:32:07,100 --> 01:32:08,100
12-foot travel lanes,

3028
01:32:08,100 --> 01:32:09,100
so it's 24 feet curb

3029
01:32:09,100 --> 01:32:11,100
to curb.

3030
01:32:12,100 --> 01:32:13,100
But there's no parking

3031
01:32:13,100 --> 01:32:14,100
along there, right?

3032
01:32:14,100 --> 01:32:15,100
>> Correct.

3033
01:32:15,100 --> 01:32:16,100
>> Is there any fear?

3034
01:32:16,100 --> 01:32:18,100
Because normally, you know,

3035
01:32:18,100 --> 01:32:19,100
10 foot should be your max

3036
01:32:19,100 --> 01:32:20,100
for a travel lane because our

3037
01:32:20,100 --> 01:32:22,100
fine firefighters can drive a

3038
01:32:22,100 --> 01:32:23,100
truck easily through that.

3039
01:32:23,100 --> 01:32:26,100
Why are we going wide

3040
01:32:26,100 --> 01:32:27,100
on our road here? Which I

3041
01:32:27,100 --> 01:32:28,100
know city guys are like,

3042
01:32:28,100 --> 01:32:30,100
this is, you know, heresy.

3043
01:32:30,100 --> 01:32:31,100
It should be 13 feet lanes.

3044
01:32:31,100 --> 01:32:33,100
We could narrow it

3045
01:32:33,100 --> 01:32:35,100
down and slow people down and

3046
01:32:35,100 --> 01:32:38,100
make this a shared space so

3047
01:32:38,100 --> 01:32:40,100
people aren't traveling fast

3048
01:32:40,100 --> 01:32:41,100
there. My worry is that this

3049
01:32:41,100 --> 01:32:43,100
is pretty wide at 12 feet,

3050
01:32:43,100 --> 01:32:46,100
but Kim is raising her hand,

3051
01:32:46,100 --> 01:32:47,100
so I will flip it over

3052
01:32:47,100 --> 01:32:48,100
to the smartest kid in the

3053
01:32:48,100 --> 01:32:49,100
class.

3054
01:32:49,100 --> 01:32:50,100
>> I believe the town

3055
01:32:50,100 --> 01:32:51,100
standard is 24 feet for a

3056
01:32:51,100 --> 01:32:53,100
private or a narrow

3057
01:32:53,100 --> 01:32:54,100
residential street.

3058
01:32:54,100 --> 01:32:55,100
>> Oh, really?

3059
01:32:55,100 --> 01:32:57,100
>> Kim.

3060
01:32:57,100 --> 01:32:58,100
>> So yes,

3061
01:32:58,100 --> 01:32:59,100
that is the town standard for

3062
01:32:59,100 --> 01:33:01,100
a narrow residential street,

3063
01:33:01,100 --> 01:33:02,100
and this is what our fire

3064
01:33:02,100 --> 01:33:03,100
trucks and our garbage trucks

3065
01:33:03,100 --> 01:33:05,100
need to maneuver

3066
01:33:05,100 --> 01:33:06,100
through this site. So if we

3067
01:33:06,100 --> 01:33:08,100
want our emergency access

3068
01:33:08,100 --> 01:33:09,100
vehicles to be able to get

3069
01:33:09,100 --> 01:33:11,100
through the site, that is the

3070
01:33:11,100 --> 01:33:12,100
travel lane width we need.

3071
01:33:12,100 --> 01:33:13,100
And if we would

3072
01:33:13,100 --> 01:33:15,100
like garbage service,

3073
01:33:15,100 --> 01:33:16,100
we also need that travel

3074
01:33:16,100 --> 01:33:17,100
width,

3075
01:33:17,100 --> 01:33:18,100
travel lane width.

3076
01:33:18,100 --> 01:33:19,100
>> Yes, I have opinions,

3077
01:33:19,100 --> 01:33:20,100
but there we go.

3078
01:33:20,100 --> 01:33:22,100
But I appreciate the input.

3079
01:33:22,100 --> 01:33:24,100
Thank you. And that's my

3080
01:33:24,100 --> 01:33:25,100
questions for now.

3081
01:33:25,100 --> 01:33:26,100
>> Great.

3082
01:33:26,100 --> 01:33:27,100
Any other questions

3083
01:33:27,100 --> 01:33:29,100
for the applicant?

3084
01:33:29,100 --> 01:33:30,100
No.

3085
01:33:30,100 --> 01:33:31,100
Thank you.

3086
01:33:31,100 --> 01:33:32,100
>> Thank you.

3087
01:33:32,100 --> 01:33:33,100
>> At this time,

3088
01:33:33,100 --> 01:33:34,100
we will bring it back... I'm

3089
01:33:34,100 --> 01:33:35,100
sorry,

3090
01:33:35,100 --> 01:33:36,100
we're open public comment.

3091
01:33:36,100 --> 01:33:37,100
Reminder, public comment is

3092
01:33:37,100 --> 01:33:38,100
held in person only.

3093
01:33:38,100 --> 01:33:39,100
Commenters, please state your

3094
01:33:39,100 --> 01:33:40,100
name and address for the

3095
01:33:40,100 --> 01:33:41,100
record and limit your

3096
01:33:41,100 --> 01:33:42,100
comments 3 minutes

3097
01:33:42,100 --> 01:33:43,100
in duration. Looks

3098
01:33:43,100 --> 01:33:45,401
like we've got one.

3099
01:33:49,100 --> 01:33:51,100
>> Jody Piscatello, again,

3100
01:33:51,100 --> 01:33:53,100
Oakfield Lane. First

3101
01:33:54,100 --> 01:33:55,100
of all, I want to commend you

3102
01:33:55,100 --> 01:33:57,100
guys because this is what I

3103
01:33:57,100 --> 01:33:59,100
was talking

3104
01:33:59,100 --> 01:34:01,100
about when it came

3105
01:34:01,100 --> 01:34:04,100
to providing homes for, you

3106
01:34:04,100 --> 01:34:06,100
know, anyone regardless of

3107
01:34:06,100 --> 01:34:08,100
income level and letting and

3108
01:34:08,100 --> 01:34:10,100
having them live amongst the

3109
01:34:10,100 --> 01:34:13,100
community. This is it. One

3110
01:34:15,100 --> 01:34:16,100
thing I wanted to point

3111
01:34:16,100 --> 01:34:17,100
out just to take

3112
01:34:17,100 --> 01:34:19,100
into consideration. Living

3113
01:34:19,100 --> 01:34:20,100
in an area, on my street,

3114
01:34:20,100 --> 01:34:23,601
we have the, like your duets

3115
01:34:24,100 --> 01:34:27,100
where they have the tandem.

3116
01:34:29,100 --> 01:34:31,100
And sometimes there's some

3117
01:34:31,100 --> 01:34:33,401
that don't have driveways.

3118
01:34:34,100 --> 01:34:35,100
That's how our street is

3119
01:34:35,100 --> 01:34:36,100
right now. And when we came

3120
01:34:36,100 --> 01:34:38,100
on board or, you know, moved

3121
01:34:38,100 --> 01:34:40,100
in, we knew that.

3122
01:34:40,100 --> 01:34:42,100
That's the way it was going

3123
01:34:42,100 --> 01:34:43,100
to be. But we had a street

3124
01:34:43,100 --> 01:34:45,100
that we could park on, and

3125
01:34:45,100 --> 01:34:46,100
now that's being compromised.

3126
01:34:46,100 --> 01:34:48,100
Well, it could be

3127
01:34:48,100 --> 01:34:49,100
compromised. One

3128
01:34:49,100 --> 01:34:51,100
of the houses

3129
01:34:51,100 --> 01:34:52,100
in my little unit, we have

3130
01:34:52,100 --> 01:34:54,100
like 4 houses, 2 face

3131
01:34:54,100 --> 01:34:55,100
each other, shared driveway,

3132
01:34:55,100 --> 01:34:57,100
one of them had to be moved

3133
01:34:57,100 --> 01:34:58,100
up and they have the tandem

3134
01:34:58,100 --> 01:35:00,100
garage but no driveway. So

3135
01:35:00,100 --> 01:35:01,100
that's what really spurred me

3136
01:35:01,100 --> 01:35:02,100
when you were describing this

3137
01:35:02,100 --> 01:35:05,100
as no street parking and some

3138
01:35:05,100 --> 01:35:07,100
don't even have a driveway is

3139
01:35:07,100 --> 01:35:10,100
that I love the size where

3140
01:35:10,100 --> 01:35:12,100
you've got like between 2 and

3141
01:35:12,100 --> 01:35:14,100
4 bedrooms, but some would

3142
01:35:14,100 --> 01:35:16,100
suggest that that's

3143
01:35:18,100 --> 01:35:19,100
for a single parent or like,

3144
01:35:19,100 --> 01:35:21,100
I think

3145
01:35:21,100 --> 01:35:22,100
about myself. I've lived here

3146
01:35:22,100 --> 01:35:24,401
for 26 years. Mom, dad, 2

3147
01:35:25,100 --> 01:35:27,100
cars. We had 2 kids,

3148
01:35:27,100 --> 01:35:29,100
and then they grew up

3149
01:35:29,100 --> 01:35:30,100
to have 2 cars and mom

3150
01:35:30,100 --> 01:35:32,401
gets the driveway, right?

3151
01:35:33,100 --> 01:35:36,601
That's how it works. But my

3152
01:35:37,100 --> 01:35:39,100
kids had a space near the

3153
01:35:39,100 --> 01:35:42,100
house that they could park.

3154
01:35:42,100 --> 01:35:43,100
So when I think

3155
01:35:43,100 --> 01:35:44,100
about you've got 16

3156
01:35:44,100 --> 01:35:45,100
for guest parking,

3157
01:35:45,100 --> 01:35:47,100
my kids are not guests. And

3158
01:35:47,100 --> 01:35:48,100
when they're working at a

3159
01:35:48,100 --> 01:35:50,100
fast food place or something

3160
01:35:50,100 --> 01:35:51,100
at night, I don't want them

3161
01:35:51,100 --> 01:35:53,100
coming home and not parking

3162
01:35:53,100 --> 01:35:56,100
near the house. So that was

3163
01:35:56,100 --> 01:35:58,100
the one thing that concerned

3164
01:35:58,100 --> 01:35:59,100
me about the setup is that

3165
01:35:59,100 --> 01:36:02,100
there's the larger roads and

3166
01:36:04,100 --> 01:36:05,100
coming home at night, and I'm

3167
01:36:05,100 --> 01:36:07,401
always gonna have single

3168
01:36:09,100 --> 01:36:11,401
parents or, you know,

3169
01:36:12,100 --> 01:36:13,100
kids or whatever coming late.

3170
01:36:13,100 --> 01:36:15,401
Where is their opportunity

3171
01:36:16,100 --> 01:36:17,100
to park? How far

3172
01:36:17,100 --> 01:36:19,100
from their home will they

3173
01:36:19,100 --> 01:36:20,100
have to walk? So it's just

3174
01:36:20,100 --> 01:36:22,100
something

3175
01:36:22,100 --> 01:36:23,100
from my own experience in my

3176
01:36:23,100 --> 01:36:24,100
neighborhood that I just

3177
01:36:24,100 --> 01:36:27,100
wanted to point out. But as

3178
01:36:27,100 --> 01:36:29,100
far as the different levels

3179
01:36:29,100 --> 01:36:31,100
that you have, that is

3180
01:36:31,100 --> 01:36:32,100
brilliant. Like, I'm very

3181
01:36:32,100 --> 01:36:34,100
excited to see that. And the

3182
01:36:34,100 --> 01:36:35,100
fact that it's for like new

3183
01:36:35,100 --> 01:36:38,100
home buyers and stuff, this

3184
01:36:39,100 --> 01:36:40,100
is what I wish we saw more

3185
01:36:40,100 --> 01:36:43,100
of in the developments that

3186
01:36:44,100 --> 01:36:47,100
we have. So that's all.

3187
01:36:54,100 --> 01:36:57,100
>> Sam Salmon. I'd ask you

3188
01:36:57,100 --> 01:36:59,401
to consider the dedication

3189
01:37:00,100 --> 01:37:02,100
for the roundabout space to

3190
01:37:02,100 --> 01:37:04,100
the town rather than the

3191
01:37:04,100 --> 01:37:05,100
ability

3192
01:37:05,100 --> 01:37:07,100
to have a right-of-way

3193
01:37:07,100 --> 01:37:09,100
to purchase?

3194
01:37:10,100 --> 01:37:12,100
Thank you.

3195
01:37:14,100 --> 01:37:15,100
>> Ken, you were shaking your

3196
01:37:15,100 --> 01:37:16,100
head. Did you want

3197
01:37:16,100 --> 01:37:17,100
to make a comment

3198
01:37:17,100 --> 01:37:19,100
on that?

3199
01:37:22,100 --> 01:37:23,100
>> So we do remember

3200
01:37:23,100 --> 01:37:24,100
Councilmember Salmon's

3201
01:37:24,100 --> 01:37:25,100
interest

3202
01:37:25,100 --> 01:37:27,100
in a roundabout expressed

3203
01:37:27,100 --> 01:37:28,100
during the Quail Acres

3204
01:37:28,100 --> 01:37:29,100
review. And so this project

3205
01:37:29,100 --> 01:37:31,100
has been designed to allow

3206
01:37:31,100 --> 01:37:33,100
for a right-of-way dedication

3207
01:37:33,100 --> 01:37:35,100
for a roundabout. And it

3208
01:37:35,100 --> 01:37:37,401
would be, you know,

3209
01:37:38,100 --> 01:37:41,100
just north of Lot 14, or

3210
01:37:41,100 --> 01:37:42,100
just... Excuse me, east of Lot

3211
01:37:42,100 --> 01:37:44,100
14 near the intersection,

3212
01:37:44,100 --> 01:37:46,100
of course. So if the town

3213
01:37:46,100 --> 01:37:48,100
decides to proceed

3214
01:37:48,100 --> 01:37:49,100
with the roundabout there,

3215
01:37:49,100 --> 01:37:51,100
we have made accommodations

3216
01:37:51,100 --> 01:37:53,100
for that. And then we are

3217
01:37:53,100 --> 01:37:54,100
also, you know, still

3218
01:37:54,100 --> 01:37:55,100
providing the irrevocable

3219
01:37:55,100 --> 01:37:57,100
offer

3220
01:37:57,100 --> 01:37:58,100
for additional right-of-way

3221
01:37:58,100 --> 01:38:00,100
to go to 5 lanes if the town

3222
01:38:00,100 --> 01:38:02,100
decides that would ever be

3223
01:38:02,100 --> 01:38:04,100
needed. So we have addressed

3224
01:38:04,100 --> 01:38:06,100
the roundabout issue.

3225
01:38:06,100 --> 01:38:08,100
>> Great, thank you.

3226
01:38:15,100 --> 01:38:16,100
>> Okay, my name is Kay

3227
01:38:16,100 --> 01:38:17,100
Sherlock, and we own the

3228
01:38:17,100 --> 01:38:19,100
property right

3229
01:38:19,100 --> 01:38:21,100
across the street from them

3230
01:38:21,100 --> 01:38:24,100
on Arata Lane. There's only

3231
01:38:24,100 --> 01:38:26,401
5 houses that are facing

3232
01:38:27,100 --> 01:38:28,100
Arata Lane, is that my

3233
01:38:28,100 --> 01:38:30,100
understanding? Okay, only 5

3234
01:38:30,100 --> 01:38:31,100
houses, and then there is A

3235
01:38:31,100 --> 01:38:34,100
private road that comes off

3236
01:38:34,100 --> 01:38:36,100
of a Arata Lane that goes

3237
01:38:36,100 --> 01:38:37,100
back in,

3238
01:38:37,100 --> 01:38:38,100
but you're also going

3239
01:38:38,100 --> 01:38:41,100
to do part of the Los

3240
01:38:41,100 --> 01:38:43,100
Amigos. I thought this whole

3241
01:38:43,100 --> 01:38:45,100
project was part of Quail,

3242
01:38:45,100 --> 01:38:46,100
the Quail one. I didn't

3243
01:38:46,100 --> 01:38:47,100
realize it was a brand new

3244
01:38:47,100 --> 01:38:49,100
one. The only thing that I

3245
01:38:49,100 --> 01:38:50,100
would like

3246
01:38:50,100 --> 01:38:53,100
to ask you all is,

3247
01:38:53,100 --> 01:38:55,100
seeing that you are doing

3248
01:38:55,100 --> 01:38:57,100
part of Los Amigos, if the

3249
01:38:57,100 --> 01:39:00,100
Quail one does not proceed

3250
01:39:00,100 --> 01:39:03,100
before you, can you advance

3251
01:39:03,100 --> 01:39:06,601
it and get an on-ramp onto

3252
01:39:07,100 --> 01:39:09,100
the freeway so that we can

3253
01:39:09,100 --> 01:39:11,100
get the hell out

3254
01:39:11,100 --> 01:39:12,100
of there when we need to get

3255
01:39:12,100 --> 01:39:15,601
out of there? If you're both

3256
01:39:17,100 --> 01:39:19,100
doing it, to me, instead

3257
01:39:19,100 --> 01:39:22,100
of just connecting with the

3258
01:39:22,100 --> 01:39:25,601
Old north of Los Amigos. You

3259
01:39:27,100 --> 01:39:30,100
do the on-ramp that we were

3260
01:39:30,100 --> 01:39:33,100
promised how many years ago.

3261
01:39:33,100 --> 01:39:35,100
That's all I'm asking. That

3262
01:39:35,100 --> 01:39:36,100
would be very nice.

3263
01:39:36,100 --> 01:39:38,100
Otherwise, I do like your

3264
01:39:38,100 --> 01:39:40,100
project. I just would

3265
01:39:40,100 --> 01:39:42,100
like a way of getting out

3266
01:39:42,100 --> 01:39:44,100
of there if we needed to get

3267
01:39:44,100 --> 01:39:46,100
out of there. That's all.

3268
01:39:46,100 --> 01:39:47,100
Thank you.

3269
01:39:47,100 --> 01:39:49,100
>> Thank you.

3270
01:39:50,100 --> 01:39:51,100
Okay, seeing no more

3271
01:39:51,100 --> 01:39:52,100
public comment

3272
01:39:52,100 --> 01:39:53,100
at this time,

3273
01:39:53,100 --> 01:39:54,100
we'll bring it back

3274
01:39:54,100 --> 01:39:55,100
to the commission

3275
01:39:55,100 --> 01:39:57,100
for discussion.

3276
01:39:57,100 --> 01:39:58,100
Do we want

3277
01:39:58,100 --> 01:39:59,100
to address that?

3278
01:39:59,100 --> 01:40:00,100
We certainly can.

3279
01:40:00,100 --> 01:40:01,100
>> Adding an on-ramp?

3280
01:40:01,100 --> 01:40:03,100
>> Yeah.

3281
01:40:03,100 --> 01:40:04,100
>> Well, I explained.

3282
01:40:04,100 --> 01:40:05,100
So these developers

3283
01:40:05,100 --> 01:40:06,100
wouldn't be responsible for

3284
01:40:06,100 --> 01:40:07,100
building an on-ramp that

3285
01:40:07,100 --> 01:40:08,100
involves Caltrans, but

3286
01:40:08,100 --> 01:40:09,100
these are the steps being

3287
01:40:09,100 --> 01:40:10,100
taken

3288
01:40:10,100 --> 01:40:11,100
to make that connection, you

3289
01:40:11,100 --> 01:40:13,100
know, eventually.

3290
01:40:17,100 --> 01:40:19,100
Anybody have thoughts on

3291
01:40:19,100 --> 01:40:21,100
this project?

3292
01:40:22,100 --> 01:40:23,100
>> I'll just go real quick,

3293
01:40:23,100 --> 01:40:25,100
if I may. Good

3294
01:40:25,100 --> 01:40:28,100
to see you guys again. I do

3295
01:40:28,100 --> 01:40:29,100
like addressing the public

3296
01:40:29,100 --> 01:40:31,100
comment earlier about finding

3297
01:40:31,100 --> 01:40:33,100
housing that is the smaller,

3298
01:40:33,100 --> 01:40:35,100
hopefully more affordable

3299
01:40:35,100 --> 01:40:36,100
style housing

3300
01:40:36,100 --> 01:40:38,100
and up there. So that's a

3301
01:40:38,100 --> 01:40:41,100
big issue. My quick worries

3302
01:40:42,100 --> 01:40:45,601
and thoughts are I think I

3303
01:40:46,100 --> 01:40:48,100
looked at your Willow Glen

3304
01:40:48,100 --> 01:40:49,100
homes in Rohnert Park, and

3305
01:40:49,100 --> 01:40:50,100
you guys had really nice

3306
01:40:50,100 --> 01:40:52,100
large front porches and nice

3307
01:40:52,100 --> 01:40:54,100
curb bulb-outs and

3308
01:40:55,100 --> 01:40:57,401
walkability. This is small,

3309
01:40:58,100 --> 01:40:59,100
so it's not like as big as

3310
01:40:59,100 --> 01:41:01,100
that other project,

3311
01:41:01,100 --> 01:41:02,100
but I want to make sure there

3312
01:41:02,100 --> 01:41:04,100
is walkability, especially

3313
01:41:04,100 --> 01:41:06,100
in some of this, the city.

3314
01:41:06,100 --> 01:41:08,100
But if you build Los

3315
01:41:08,100 --> 01:41:09,100
Amigos, kids are going

3316
01:41:09,100 --> 01:41:10,100
to be crossing Los Amigos

3317
01:41:10,100 --> 01:41:11,100
to go to the park. We've got

3318
01:41:11,100 --> 01:41:12,100
to make sure that Los

3319
01:41:12,100 --> 01:41:14,100
Amigos, even though it's

3320
01:41:14,100 --> 01:41:15,100
going to eventually have an

3321
01:41:15,100 --> 01:41:16,100
on-ramp,

3322
01:41:16,100 --> 01:41:18,100
doesn't become a speedway.

3323
01:41:18,100 --> 01:41:19,100
That's why I hammer the lane

3324
01:41:19,100 --> 01:41:20,100
widths, right? Because it

3325
01:41:20,100 --> 01:41:22,100
should slow people down

3326
01:41:22,100 --> 01:41:23,100
to be in a neighborhood,

3327
01:41:23,100 --> 01:41:24,100
because this is going to

3328
01:41:24,100 --> 01:41:25,100
become a residential

3329
01:41:25,100 --> 01:41:26,100
neighborhood. So making sure

3330
01:41:26,100 --> 01:41:27,100
we build this in such a way

3331
01:41:27,100 --> 01:41:29,100
that it's walkable, rollable

3332
01:41:29,100 --> 01:41:30,100
for people in wheelchairs and

3333
01:41:30,100 --> 01:41:31,100
scooters and things

3334
01:41:31,100 --> 01:41:33,100
like that. I don't see a lot

3335
01:41:33,100 --> 01:41:35,100
of that here. I know some of

3336
01:41:35,100 --> 01:41:36,100
that's because it's an

3337
01:41:36,100 --> 01:41:38,100
internal private

3338
01:41:39,100 --> 01:41:40,100
driveways, but I want

3339
01:41:40,100 --> 01:41:41,100
to make sure...

3340
01:41:41,100 --> 01:41:42,100
>> Does it have sidewalks

3341
01:41:42,100 --> 01:41:43,100
on that?

3342
01:41:43,100 --> 01:41:44,100
>> It has sidewalks

3343
01:41:44,100 --> 01:41:45,100
on the outside, but like,

3344
01:41:45,100 --> 01:41:46,100
look at the rounded curve

3345
01:41:46,100 --> 01:41:47,100
on Los Amigos and Arata

3346
01:41:47,100 --> 01:41:48,100
Lane. And I don't know if

3347
01:41:48,100 --> 01:41:49,100
there's a traffic engineer

3348
01:41:49,100 --> 01:41:50,100
sitting here in the audience

3349
01:41:50,100 --> 01:41:51,100
and they're like, yeah,

3350
01:41:51,100 --> 01:41:52,100
that's so fast because it

3351
01:41:52,100 --> 01:41:53,100
goes zipping

3352
01:41:53,100 --> 01:41:54,100
around that corner.

3353
01:41:54,100 --> 01:41:55,100
But what we actually want is

3354
01:41:55,100 --> 01:41:56,100
like people to slow

3355
01:41:56,100 --> 01:41:57,100
down because there's going

3356
01:41:57,100 --> 01:41:58,100
to be a kid crossing Los

3357
01:41:58,100 --> 01:41:59,100
Amigos with Grandma

3358
01:41:59,100 --> 01:42:00,100
in a wheelchair to go

3359
01:42:00,100 --> 01:42:01,100
to the park and they're going

3360
01:42:01,100 --> 01:42:03,100
to get hit. And that's

3361
01:42:03,100 --> 01:42:04,100
because we're going

3362
01:42:04,100 --> 01:42:05,100
to build that like a freeway

3363
01:42:05,100 --> 01:42:06,100
on-ramp rather than a town

3364
01:42:06,100 --> 01:42:09,100
street before we get there.

3365
01:42:10,100 --> 01:42:12,100
So that's where I do see some

3366
01:42:12,100 --> 01:42:13,100
worries, and I think that's

3367
01:42:13,100 --> 01:42:15,100
not directly tied

3368
01:42:15,100 --> 01:42:16,100
to this part yet,

3369
01:42:16,100 --> 01:42:17,100
but that is something I want

3370
01:42:17,100 --> 01:42:19,100
to bring up and plant the

3371
01:42:19,100 --> 01:42:20,100
seed. I did like what I saw

3372
01:42:20,100 --> 01:42:21,100
at the Willow Glen project

3373
01:42:21,100 --> 01:42:22,100
in Rohnert Park

3374
01:42:22,100 --> 01:42:23,100
on that route. So those are

3375
01:42:23,100 --> 01:42:25,100
my thoughts.

3376
01:42:26,100 --> 01:42:28,100
>> Adding on to that, I don't

3377
01:42:28,100 --> 01:42:29,100
know if you can partner

3378
01:42:29,100 --> 01:42:30,100
with the Qauil Acres project

3379
01:42:30,100 --> 01:42:32,100
and do that in conjunction

3380
01:42:32,100 --> 01:42:33,100
where you actually have the

3381
01:42:33,100 --> 01:42:35,100
bulb-outs

3382
01:42:35,100 --> 01:42:36,100
with the flashing lights. So

3383
01:42:36,100 --> 01:42:38,100
then that way you can have

3384
01:42:38,100 --> 01:42:40,100
that safety measure,

3385
01:42:40,100 --> 01:42:41,100
and it is more

3386
01:42:41,100 --> 01:42:42,100
like that bottleneck slowing

3387
01:42:42,100 --> 01:42:44,100
down traffic.

3388
01:42:50,100 --> 01:42:51,100
>> Through the chair, if I could

3389
01:42:51,100 --> 01:42:52,100
just provide some clarifying

3390
01:42:52,100 --> 01:42:54,100
comments

3391
01:42:54,100 --> 01:42:55,100
on the planned on-ramp for

3392
01:42:55,100 --> 01:42:57,401
101. The extension of Los

3393
01:42:58,100 --> 01:42:59,100
Amigos would accommodate

3394
01:42:59,100 --> 01:43:01,100
for that on-ramp, but it

3395
01:43:01,100 --> 01:43:02,100
wouldn't actually be coming

3396
01:43:02,100 --> 01:43:03,100
from Los Amigos. The on-ramp

3397
01:43:03,100 --> 01:43:04,100
would be oriented over where

3398
01:43:04,100 --> 01:43:05,100
the existing off-ramp is

3399
01:43:05,100 --> 01:43:06,100
on the opposite side of the

3400
01:43:06,100 --> 01:43:08,401
101 freeway. So where the

3401
01:43:09,100 --> 01:43:10,100
northern Los Amigos spur

3402
01:43:10,100 --> 01:43:12,100
currently goes down to

3403
01:43:12,100 --> 01:43:13,100
Arata, that's where the

3404
01:43:13,100 --> 01:43:14,100
on-ramp would be. This would

3405
01:43:14,100 --> 01:43:15,100
be a local road that would

3406
01:43:15,100 --> 01:43:16,100
connect up towards

3407
01:43:16,100 --> 01:43:18,100
Healdsburg.

3408
01:43:26,100 --> 01:43:27,100
>> Echoing some

3409
01:43:27,100 --> 01:43:28,100
of the comments we've heard,

3410
01:43:28,100 --> 01:43:29,100
I think that it's absolutely,

3411
01:43:29,100 --> 01:43:31,100
it's imperative that we start

3412
01:43:31,100 --> 01:43:32,100
filling

3413
01:43:32,100 --> 01:43:35,100
in the missing middle. This

3414
01:43:35,100 --> 01:43:36,100
project is doing that,

3415
01:43:36,100 --> 01:43:37,100
and it allows

3416
01:43:37,100 --> 01:43:38,100
for affordability to own

3417
01:43:38,100 --> 01:43:39,100
at multiple levels of

3418
01:43:39,100 --> 01:43:41,401
affordability as far as

3419
01:43:42,100 --> 01:43:44,100
deed-restricted low-income

3420
01:43:45,100 --> 01:43:46,100
and also units

3421
01:43:46,100 --> 01:43:48,100
at market rate that allow

3422
01:43:48,100 --> 01:43:50,100
for a step

3423
01:43:51,100 --> 01:43:54,100
into ownership basis as well.

3424
01:43:55,100 --> 01:43:56,100
It's fantastic that you're

3425
01:43:56,100 --> 01:43:59,100
taking a... It's infill, not

3426
01:43:59,100 --> 01:44:01,100
really because the other one

3427
01:44:01,100 --> 01:44:03,100
is,

3428
01:44:03,100 --> 01:44:05,100
but if it is infill in

3429
01:44:05,100 --> 01:44:06,100
the sense that once it's all

3430
01:44:06,100 --> 01:44:07,100
built out, there won't be

3431
01:44:07,100 --> 01:44:09,100
that blank empty piece of

3432
01:44:09,100 --> 01:44:10,100
land that's unutilized and

3433
01:44:10,100 --> 01:44:13,100
doesn't make sense. So I

3434
01:44:13,100 --> 01:44:15,100
appreciate the architecture.

3435
01:44:16,100 --> 01:44:17,100
Sounds

3436
01:44:17,100 --> 01:44:18,100
like you worked very well

3437
01:44:18,100 --> 01:44:19,100
with the town, provided what

3438
01:44:19,100 --> 01:44:21,100
you knew we would ask

3439
01:44:21,100 --> 01:44:22,100
for as best you could,

3440
01:44:22,100 --> 01:44:24,100
and so I appreciate that

3441
01:44:24,100 --> 01:44:26,100
in this project.

3442
01:44:30,100 --> 01:44:31,100
>> And I'll kind

3443
01:44:31,100 --> 01:44:32,100
of echo the same, you know,

3444
01:44:32,100 --> 01:44:33,100
the comparison to the old

3445
01:44:33,100 --> 01:44:34,100
Redwood Highway Villages

3446
01:44:34,100 --> 01:44:35,100
makes sense. They are

3447
01:44:35,100 --> 01:44:36,100
overparked though. They have

3448
01:44:36,100 --> 01:44:37,100
a ton of parking and they're

3449
01:44:37,100 --> 01:44:39,100
a block away

3450
01:44:39,100 --> 01:44:40,100
from a giant actual park,

3451
01:44:40,100 --> 01:44:43,100
not a planned park. So

3452
01:44:43,100 --> 01:44:44,100
there is, you know, some

3453
01:44:44,100 --> 01:44:45,100
concern there that you're

3454
01:44:45,100 --> 01:44:46,100
building a bunch of houses

3455
01:44:46,100 --> 01:44:47,100
with no recreational

3456
01:44:47,100 --> 01:44:48,100
resources nearby. But I know

3457
01:44:48,100 --> 01:44:49,100
that is the plan. I believe

3458
01:44:49,100 --> 01:44:50,100
some of you are

3459
01:44:50,100 --> 01:44:52,100
on that other project. So,

3460
01:44:52,100 --> 01:44:53,100
hopefully that comes

3461
01:44:53,100 --> 01:44:54,100
to fruition.

3462
01:44:54,100 --> 01:44:55,100
But the designs layout,

3463
01:44:55,100 --> 01:44:56,100
it's a good use

3464
01:44:56,100 --> 01:44:57,100
of the property. And again,

3465
01:44:57,100 --> 01:44:58,100
does provide some great

3466
01:44:58,100 --> 01:44:59,100
housing compared

3467
01:44:59,100 --> 01:45:00,100
to some

3468
01:45:00,100 --> 01:45:01,100
of the projects we see. This

3469
01:45:01,100 --> 01:45:02,100
one, this one looks pretty

3470
01:45:02,100 --> 01:45:03,100
good.

3471
01:45:03,100 --> 01:45:04,100
>> I want a quick follow-up.

3472
01:45:04,100 --> 01:45:06,100
I heard a 5-lane Arata

3473
01:45:06,100 --> 01:45:07,100
Lane project? Am I

3474
01:45:07,100 --> 01:45:09,100
hallucinating?

3475
01:45:12,100 --> 01:45:13,100
>> So the town's general plan

3476
01:45:13,100 --> 01:45:15,100
circulation map identifies

3477
01:45:15,100 --> 01:45:17,100
the section of Arata Lane as

3478
01:45:17,100 --> 01:45:19,100
5 lanes

3479
01:45:20,100 --> 01:45:23,100
from really this project to

3480
01:45:23,100 --> 01:45:25,100
Highway 101. It's a very

3481
01:45:25,100 --> 01:45:27,100
small section. So in the

3482
01:45:27,100 --> 01:45:28,100
event that one day that is

3483
01:45:28,100 --> 01:45:30,401
needed, the project includes

3484
01:45:31,100 --> 01:45:32,100
an irrevocable offer of

3485
01:45:32,100 --> 01:45:33,100
dedication because it's

3486
01:45:33,100 --> 01:45:35,100
required to be consistent

3487
01:45:35,100 --> 01:45:36,100
with the general plan. That

3488
01:45:36,100 --> 01:45:38,100
is not the plan,

3489
01:45:38,100 --> 01:45:39,100
it is not necessary. There's

3490
01:45:39,100 --> 01:45:40,100
no indication that it's

3491
01:45:40,100 --> 01:45:41,100
needed. So until that time,

3492
01:45:41,100 --> 01:45:43,100
the lots that include that

3493
01:45:43,100 --> 01:45:45,100
irrevocable offer

3494
01:45:45,100 --> 01:45:47,401
of dedication along Arata

3495
01:45:49,100 --> 01:45:50,100
Lane, they just use that

3496
01:45:50,100 --> 01:45:51,100
property however they want

3497
01:45:51,100 --> 01:45:52,100
to use that property for

3498
01:45:52,100 --> 01:45:54,100
landscaping and enjoy that

3499
01:45:54,100 --> 01:45:56,100
property. If one day the town

3500
01:45:56,100 --> 01:45:58,100
needs it, the town has it.

3501
01:45:58,100 --> 01:45:59,100
That's why it's there. Thank

3502
01:45:59,100 --> 01:46:00,100
you. No, there's no plan

3503
01:46:00,100 --> 01:46:01,100
for that currently.

3504
01:46:01,100 --> 01:46:02,100
>> Okay, good.

3505
01:46:02,100 --> 01:46:03,100
>> So we have 2 resolutions.

3506
01:46:03,100 --> 01:46:04,100
One is for the negative

3507
01:46:04,100 --> 01:46:06,100
declaration and one is for

3508
01:46:06,100 --> 01:46:08,100
the resolution approving the

3509
01:46:08,100 --> 01:46:10,100
builder's remedy application.

3510
01:46:10,100 --> 01:46:13,100
Do we have a motion? I guess

3511
01:46:13,100 --> 01:46:14,100
we need to read the titles

3512
01:46:14,100 --> 01:46:16,100
on both. We can do resolution

3513
01:46:16,100 --> 01:46:17,100
number 1 first if we have a

3514
01:46:17,100 --> 01:46:19,100
motion to approve.

3515
01:46:20,100 --> 01:46:23,100
>> Anybody want to do it?

3516
01:46:23,100 --> 01:46:24,100
I move to approve

3517
01:46:24,100 --> 01:46:26,100
resolution number 1 and

3518
01:46:26,100 --> 01:46:28,100
resolution number 2. A

3519
01:46:28,100 --> 01:46:29,100
resolution of the Town of

3520
01:46:29,100 --> 01:46:30,100
Windsor Planning Commission

3521
01:46:30,100 --> 01:46:32,100
adopting a mitigation...

3522
01:46:34,100 --> 01:46:35,100
>> Hold on one second.

3523
01:46:35,100 --> 01:46:36,100
>> We do need to do them

3524
01:46:36,100 --> 01:46:38,100
one at a time.

3525
01:46:38,100 --> 01:46:39,100
>> Okay.

3526
01:46:39,100 --> 01:46:40,100
>> Well, I think actually we

3527
01:46:40,100 --> 01:46:41,100
could accept the motion and

3528
01:46:41,100 --> 01:46:42,100
then just vote separately if

3529
01:46:42,100 --> 01:46:43,100
you want to do that.

3530
01:46:43,100 --> 01:46:45,100
>> Okay, whatever works

3531
01:46:45,100 --> 01:46:47,100
for you.

3532
01:46:50,100 --> 01:46:51,100
Moving to approve a

3533
01:46:51,100 --> 01:46:52,100
resolution of the Town of

3534
01:46:52,100 --> 01:46:53,100
Windsor Planning Commission

3535
01:46:53,100 --> 01:46:54,100
adopting a mitigated negative

3536
01:46:54,100 --> 01:46:55,100
declaration and a mitigation

3537
01:46:55,100 --> 01:46:57,100
monitoring and reporting

3538
01:46:57,100 --> 01:46:59,100
program for the Los Amigos

3539
01:46:59,100 --> 01:47:00,100
Cottages Builders Remedy

3540
01:47:00,100 --> 01:47:02,401
Project at 263 Arata Lane.

3541
01:47:03,100 --> 01:47:05,100
Additionally, I move

3542
01:47:05,100 --> 01:47:07,100
to approve the resolution

3543
01:47:07,100 --> 01:47:08,100
of the Planning Commission

3544
01:47:08,100 --> 01:47:09,100
of the Town of Windsor

3545
01:47:09,100 --> 01:47:11,100
approving a builder's remedy

3546
01:47:11,100 --> 01:47:13,100
application for a 32-lot

3547
01:47:13,100 --> 01:47:15,100
tentative subdivision map,

3548
01:47:15,100 --> 01:47:16,100
affordable housing waivers,

3549
01:47:16,100 --> 01:47:18,100
and reservation

3550
01:47:18,100 --> 01:47:20,100
of growth control allocations

3551
01:47:20,100 --> 01:47:21,100
for the same Los Amigos

3552
01:47:21,100 --> 01:47:23,100
Cottages project.

3553
01:47:23,100 --> 01:47:24,100
>> Do we have a second for

3554
01:47:24,100 --> 01:47:26,100
resolution number 1?

3555
01:47:27,100 --> 01:47:29,401
>> I'm going to interrupt.

3556
01:47:30,100 --> 01:47:31,100
Let's just focus

3557
01:47:31,100 --> 01:47:32,100
on resolution number 1. So we

3558
01:47:32,100 --> 01:47:33,100
have a motion for that. Now

3559
01:47:33,100 --> 01:47:34,100
we're asking for a second,

3560
01:47:34,100 --> 01:47:35,100
and then we'll move on

3561
01:47:35,100 --> 01:47:37,100
to resolution number 2.

3562
01:47:37,100 --> 01:47:39,100
>> I second the first

3563
01:47:39,100 --> 01:47:41,100
resolution as read.

3564
01:47:41,100 --> 01:47:42,100
>> We have a roll call vote,

3565
01:47:42,100 --> 01:47:43,100
please.

3566
01:47:43,100 --> 01:47:45,100
>> [ CALLING ROLL ]

3567
01:47:50,100 --> 01:47:51,100
>> Moving on

3568
01:47:51,100 --> 01:47:52,100
to resolution number 2 as

3569
01:47:52,100 --> 01:47:54,100
read by Commissioner

3570
01:47:54,100 --> 01:47:55,100
Fortino-Dickson. Do we have a

3571
01:47:55,100 --> 01:47:57,100
second?

3572
01:47:59,100 --> 01:48:00,100
>> You can second.

3573
01:48:00,100 --> 01:48:02,100
>> I'll second.

3574
01:48:02,100 --> 01:48:03,100
>> May we have a roll call

3575
01:48:03,100 --> 01:48:04,100
vote, please?

3576
01:48:04,100 --> 01:48:06,100
>> [ CALLING ROLL ]

3577
01:48:13,100 --> 01:48:15,100
>> Thank you. At this time,

3578
01:48:15,100 --> 01:48:17,100
we will look at item number

3579
01:48:17,100 --> 01:48:18,100
10, our regular calendar. We

3580
01:48:18,100 --> 01:48:19,100
have no items

3581
01:48:19,100 --> 01:48:20,100
on the regular calendar

3582
01:48:20,100 --> 01:48:21,100
at this time. Item number

3583
01:48:21,100 --> 01:48:22,100
11, our written

3584
01:48:22,100 --> 01:48:23,100
communication. I will

3585
01:48:23,100 --> 01:48:24,100
acknowledge we received a

3586
01:48:24,100 --> 01:48:25,100
number

3587
01:48:25,100 --> 01:48:26,100
of written communications

3588
01:48:26,100 --> 01:48:28,100
about the Windsor Creek

3589
01:48:28,100 --> 01:48:30,100
presentation and a couple

3590
01:48:30,100 --> 01:48:31,100
questions of staff that I

3591
01:48:31,100 --> 01:48:33,100
think they've handled.

3592
01:48:34,100 --> 01:48:36,100
Moving on to item number

3593
01:48:36,100 --> 01:48:38,100
12. 12.1, individual

3594
01:48:38,100 --> 01:48:39,100
commissioner reports and

3595
01:48:39,100 --> 01:48:40,100
comments, including reports

3596
01:48:40,100 --> 01:48:41,100
on meetings, conferences,

3597
01:48:41,100 --> 01:48:42,100
and activities

3598
01:48:42,100 --> 01:48:44,100
of miscellaneous agendas.

3599
01:48:46,100 --> 01:48:48,100
Agency? None there?

3600
01:48:50,100 --> 01:48:51,100
>> I don't want to steal

3601
01:48:51,100 --> 01:48:52,100
Director Streeter's thunder

3602
01:48:52,100 --> 01:48:54,100
if he's going to do this,

3603
01:48:54,100 --> 01:48:55,100
but I was asked to propagate

3604
01:48:55,100 --> 01:48:56,100
the message that there will

3605
01:48:56,100 --> 01:48:57,100
be a Sonoma County Transit

3606
01:48:57,100 --> 01:49:00,100
bus workshop coming up. Is

3607
01:49:00,100 --> 01:49:01,100
that in your presentation,

3608
01:49:01,100 --> 01:49:02,100
Patrick?

3609
01:49:02,100 --> 01:49:03,100
>> It wasn't, so go

3610
01:49:03,100 --> 01:49:04,100
for it.

3611
01:49:04,100 --> 01:49:05,100
>> Well, I should have had

3612
01:49:05,100 --> 01:49:07,100
the date ready.

3613
01:49:09,100 --> 01:49:11,100
But they're doing them all

3614
01:49:11,100 --> 01:49:12,100
around the town, one, and

3615
01:49:12,100 --> 01:49:14,401
there's one in Windsor.

3616
01:49:15,100 --> 01:49:16,100
It's coming up. I'll have to

3617
01:49:16,100 --> 01:49:17,100
go quickly look it up when

3618
01:49:17,100 --> 01:49:19,100
you're reporting.

3619
01:49:19,100 --> 01:49:20,100
But if people do want

3620
01:49:20,100 --> 01:49:21,100
to weigh in on the Windsor

3621
01:49:21,100 --> 01:49:22,100
shuttle bus or any service,

3622
01:49:22,100 --> 01:49:23,100
because they are changing how

3623
01:49:23,100 --> 01:49:24,100
the buses work with SMART.

3624
01:49:24,100 --> 01:49:25,100
And I will look up the date

3625
01:49:25,100 --> 01:49:26,100
and time. Apologies, and I'll

3626
01:49:26,100 --> 01:49:28,100
find it.

3627
01:49:28,100 --> 01:49:30,100
>> Anything, Richard? Okay.

3628
01:49:30,100 --> 01:49:31,100
Do we have any requests

3629
01:49:31,100 --> 01:49:32,100
for future agenda items?

3630
01:49:32,100 --> 01:49:34,100
Seeing none,

3631
01:49:34,100 --> 01:49:36,100
we will close item number

3632
01:49:36,100 --> 01:49:37,100
12. Move on to item number

3633
01:49:37,100 --> 01:49:38,100
13, our community development

3634
01:49:38,100 --> 01:49:39,100
director's report. Director

3635
01:49:39,100 --> 01:49:41,100
Streeter.

3636
01:49:41,100 --> 01:49:42,100
>> Thank you, Chair. I did

3637
01:49:42,100 --> 01:49:43,100
want to quickly address

3638
01:49:43,100 --> 01:49:44,100
the question came up

3639
01:49:44,100 --> 01:49:45,100
during the

3640
01:49:45,100 --> 01:49:47,100
opening presentation about

3641
01:49:47,100 --> 01:49:48,100
the builder's remedy and the

3642
01:49:48,100 --> 01:49:50,100
certified housing element,

3643
01:49:50,100 --> 01:49:52,100
how that all works. So

3644
01:49:52,100 --> 01:49:54,100
to give a little history,

3645
01:49:54,100 --> 01:49:55,100
as Ms. Jordan pointed out,

3646
01:49:55,100 --> 01:49:58,100
we last had our housing

3647
01:49:58,100 --> 01:49:59,100
element, our current housing

3648
01:49:59,100 --> 01:50:00,100
element was certified in

3649
01:50:00,100 --> 01:50:03,100
2023 by HCD. The way that the

3650
01:50:03,100 --> 01:50:06,100
RHNA works is that the

3651
01:50:07,100 --> 01:50:08,100
State Department of Housing

3652
01:50:08,100 --> 01:50:09,100
and Community Development

3653
01:50:09,100 --> 01:50:11,100
assigns a housing number

3654
01:50:11,100 --> 01:50:12,100
to each of the different COGs

3655
01:50:12,100 --> 01:50:14,401
or council of governments

3656
01:50:16,100 --> 01:50:19,100
within California. So ours is

3657
01:50:20,100 --> 01:50:22,401
MTC-ABAG. So ABAG was

3658
01:50:23,100 --> 01:50:24,100
assigned a certain number of,

3659
01:50:24,100 --> 01:50:26,100
you know, a couple hundred

3660
01:50:26,100 --> 01:50:27,100
thousand units that they had

3661
01:50:27,100 --> 01:50:29,100
to develop. Then the local

3662
01:50:29,100 --> 01:50:31,100
COG, MTC-ABAG, divides that

3663
01:50:31,100 --> 01:50:32,100
amongst the different

3664
01:50:32,100 --> 01:50:33,100
jurisdictions,

3665
01:50:33,100 --> 01:50:34,100
so cities and counties

3666
01:50:34,100 --> 01:50:35,100
within it. That's where the

3667
01:50:35,100 --> 01:50:36,100
994 were assigned to

3668
01:50:36,100 --> 01:50:38,100
Windsor. So the process of

3669
01:50:38,100 --> 01:50:40,100
developing your housing

3670
01:50:41,100 --> 01:50:42,100
element can't actually begin

3671
01:50:42,100 --> 01:50:44,401
until you receive that

3672
01:50:45,100 --> 01:50:47,100
assignment. And every city,

3673
01:50:47,100 --> 01:50:49,100
I'm pretty sure every city

3674
01:50:49,100 --> 01:50:50,100
and county appealed their

3675
01:50:50,100 --> 01:50:52,100
assignments. So,

3676
01:50:53,100 --> 01:50:54,100
those appeals had

3677
01:50:54,100 --> 01:50:56,100
to be heard by MTC-ABAG. And

3678
01:50:56,100 --> 01:50:58,100
then they granted one or two

3679
01:50:58,100 --> 01:51:00,100
of the appeals

3680
01:51:00,100 --> 01:51:01,100
on technicalities,

3681
01:51:01,100 --> 01:51:02,100
but everyone then had

3682
01:51:02,100 --> 01:51:03,100
to move forward

3683
01:51:03,100 --> 01:51:04,100
with their assignments. This

3684
01:51:04,100 --> 01:51:05,100
all occurred

3685
01:51:05,100 --> 01:51:07,100
through the years 2019 to

3686
01:51:07,100 --> 01:51:10,100
2022 during COVID. So it made

3687
01:51:10,100 --> 01:51:11,100
it even more challenging. So

3688
01:51:11,100 --> 01:51:12,100
there were significant delays

3689
01:51:12,100 --> 01:51:13,100
in just about every city in

3690
01:51:13,100 --> 01:51:15,100
California getting started on

3691
01:51:15,100 --> 01:51:16,100
developing their housing

3692
01:51:16,100 --> 01:51:18,100
elements. HCD reassured

3693
01:51:18,100 --> 01:51:19,100
everyone that although the

3694
01:51:19,100 --> 01:51:21,100
deadline was January of

3695
01:51:21,100 --> 01:51:23,401
2023. There'd be a grace

3696
01:51:25,100 --> 01:51:27,100
period because of all the

3697
01:51:27,100 --> 01:51:28,100
delays that everyone had

3698
01:51:28,100 --> 01:51:30,100
faced. And then when January

3699
01:51:30,100 --> 01:51:32,100
of 2023 came around, HCD

3700
01:51:32,100 --> 01:51:34,100
mentioned, actually,

3701
01:51:34,100 --> 01:51:36,100
there's a grace period,

3702
01:51:36,100 --> 01:51:37,100
but you're still open

3703
01:51:37,100 --> 01:51:39,100
to build as remedy. If you

3704
01:51:39,100 --> 01:51:40,100
don't have a certified

3705
01:51:40,100 --> 01:51:42,100
housing element, so Windsor

3706
01:51:42,100 --> 01:51:43,100
is not alone in being kind

3707
01:51:43,100 --> 01:51:44,100
of exposed

3708
01:51:44,100 --> 01:51:46,100
to that that window of

3709
01:51:46,100 --> 01:51:48,100
of builders' remedies. So we

3710
01:51:48,100 --> 01:51:49,100
received a couple of

3711
01:51:49,100 --> 01:51:51,100
builders' remedy

3712
01:51:51,100 --> 01:51:52,100
applications, including the

3713
01:51:52,100 --> 01:51:53,100
one that was just approved

3714
01:51:53,100 --> 01:51:54,100
tonight. But most other

3715
01:51:54,100 --> 01:51:55,100
cities also experienced the

3716
01:51:55,100 --> 01:51:57,100
same thing. So there was a

3717
01:51:57,100 --> 01:51:58,100
gap between when the

3718
01:51:58,100 --> 01:51:59,100
certified housing element was

3719
01:51:59,100 --> 01:52:00,100
due and when it was actually

3720
01:52:00,100 --> 01:52:03,100
certified by HCD. We have no

3721
01:52:03,100 --> 01:52:05,100
intention

3722
01:52:05,100 --> 01:52:06,100
of letting that happen again

3723
01:52:06,100 --> 01:52:08,100
for the next housing element,

3724
01:52:08,100 --> 01:52:10,100
which is required

3725
01:52:10,100 --> 01:52:12,100
to be certified by HCD in

3726
01:52:12,100 --> 01:52:14,100
January of 2031.

3727
01:52:16,100 --> 01:52:17,100
But we also have no control

3728
01:52:17,100 --> 01:52:18,100
over when those assignments

3729
01:52:18,100 --> 01:52:19,100
and allocations are made and

3730
01:52:19,100 --> 01:52:21,100
when they're divided up by

3731
01:52:21,100 --> 01:52:23,100
MTC-ABAG and what the

3732
01:52:23,100 --> 01:52:24,100
assignment would be and when

3733
01:52:24,100 --> 01:52:26,100
we could actually begin the

3734
01:52:26,100 --> 01:52:27,100
process of adopting the

3735
01:52:27,100 --> 01:52:29,100
housing element.

3736
01:52:29,100 --> 01:52:30,100
But learning lessons

3737
01:52:30,100 --> 01:52:32,100
from the past,

3738
01:52:32,100 --> 01:52:33,100
we'll try to have everything

3739
01:52:33,100 --> 01:52:34,100
lined up and ready to go as

3740
01:52:34,100 --> 01:52:38,100
soon as we are able to. And

3741
01:52:38,100 --> 01:52:39,100
then just discussing upcoming

3742
01:52:39,100 --> 01:52:40,100
agendas. So for Planning

3743
01:52:40,100 --> 01:52:42,100
Commission,

3744
01:52:44,100 --> 01:52:45,100
this is not a Planning

3745
01:52:45,100 --> 01:52:46,100
Commission meeting,

3746
01:52:46,100 --> 01:52:47,100
but commissioners

3747
01:52:47,100 --> 01:52:48,100
are welcome to attend. We

3748
01:52:48,100 --> 01:52:51,100
have the community meeting on

3749
01:52:51,100 --> 01:52:52,100
the station area plan

3750
01:52:52,100 --> 01:52:53,100
scheduled for next Monday the

3751
01:52:53,100 --> 01:52:54,100
20th. And then on August

3752
01:52:54,100 --> 01:52:56,100
11th, we do have a joint

3753
01:52:56,100 --> 01:52:57,100
Town Council Planning

3754
01:52:57,100 --> 01:52:59,401
Commission meeting. Again, to

3755
01:53:00,100 --> 01:53:02,100
discuss the station area plan

3756
01:53:02,100 --> 01:53:03,100
update. This will be the

3757
01:53:03,100 --> 01:53:05,100
first of 2 joint meetings

3758
01:53:05,100 --> 01:53:07,100
that we'd like to hold. And

3759
01:53:07,100 --> 01:53:09,100
on August 25th,

3760
01:53:10,100 --> 01:53:11,100
we have a public hearing

3761
01:53:11,100 --> 01:53:13,401
for the Clearwater Project.

3762
01:53:14,100 --> 01:53:15,100
As part of their development

3763
01:53:15,100 --> 01:53:16,100
agreement,

3764
01:53:16,100 --> 01:53:17,100
they must come back

3765
01:53:17,100 --> 01:53:18,100
before the review authority

3766
01:53:18,100 --> 01:53:20,100
to give an update

3767
01:53:20,100 --> 01:53:22,100
on progress of that

3768
01:53:22,100 --> 01:53:24,100
development agreement. This

3769
01:53:24,100 --> 01:53:26,100
one may also include

3770
01:53:26,100 --> 01:53:27,100
potential modifications to

3771
01:53:27,100 --> 01:53:29,100
that development agreement.

3772
01:53:30,100 --> 01:53:31,100
And looking

3773
01:53:31,100 --> 01:53:32,100
at council calendars, on

3774
01:53:32,100 --> 01:53:34,100
July 15th, so tomorrow,

3775
01:53:34,100 --> 01:53:36,100
we do have introduction of

3776
01:53:36,100 --> 01:53:37,100
the ordinance that would have

3777
01:53:37,100 --> 01:53:39,100
the updates

3778
01:53:40,100 --> 01:53:42,100
to the zoning ordinance,

3779
01:53:42,100 --> 01:53:44,100
including updates for ADU and

3780
01:53:44,100 --> 01:53:46,100
JADU code that was

3781
01:53:46,100 --> 01:53:47,100
recommended for approval

3782
01:53:47,100 --> 01:53:48,100
by the commission

3783
01:53:48,100 --> 01:53:51,100
at our last meeting. And on

3784
01:53:51,100 --> 01:53:52,100
August 5th, we have the

3785
01:53:52,100 --> 01:53:54,100
council requested that

3786
01:53:54,100 --> 01:53:56,100
planning staff come

3787
01:53:57,100 --> 01:53:58,100
forward with an item

3788
01:53:58,100 --> 01:53:59,100
to receive direction

3789
01:53:59,100 --> 01:54:01,100
on potential modifications

3790
01:54:01,100 --> 01:54:03,100
to the gas station ban. So

3791
01:54:03,100 --> 01:54:05,100
we're putting together a

3792
01:54:05,100 --> 01:54:06,100
package to bring

3793
01:54:06,100 --> 01:54:07,100
to the council

3794
01:54:07,100 --> 01:54:09,100
for their consideration

3795
01:54:09,100 --> 01:54:11,100
on providing further

3796
01:54:11,100 --> 01:54:12,100
direction to staff or just

3797
01:54:12,100 --> 01:54:14,100
saying let the issue go away.

3798
01:54:14,100 --> 01:54:17,100
And I think with that, that

3799
01:54:17,100 --> 01:54:18,100
will conclude my report

3800
01:54:18,100 --> 01:54:20,100
tonight.

3801
01:54:20,100 --> 01:54:21,100
>> Great, thank you very

3802
01:54:21,100 --> 01:54:22,100
much.

3803
01:54:22,100 --> 01:54:23,100
>> Just real quick, I found

3804
01:54:23,100 --> 01:54:24,100
the dates and I thank you.

3805
01:54:24,100 --> 01:54:25,100
So it could be a twofer.

3806
01:54:25,100 --> 01:54:26,100
After you do the station area

3807
01:54:26,100 --> 01:54:27,100
plan,

3808
01:54:27,100 --> 01:54:28,100
you can come back the next

3809
01:54:28,100 --> 01:54:29,100
night, July 21st, at the

3810
01:54:29,100 --> 01:54:30,100
Windsor Chamber/Depot

3811
01:54:30,100 --> 01:54:32,100
from 5:30 to 7:00 to talk

3812
01:54:32,100 --> 01:54:33,100
about the transit changes.

3813
01:54:33,100 --> 01:54:35,100
So show up

3814
01:54:35,100 --> 01:54:36,100
to that if you want.

3815
01:54:36,100 --> 01:54:38,100
>> Great.

3816
01:54:41,100 --> 01:54:42,100
At this time, we will

3817
01:54:42,100 --> 01:54:43,100
adjourn the meeting. The next

3818
01:54:43,100 --> 01:54:44,100
regular meeting of the

3819
01:54:44,100 --> 01:54:45,100
Planning Commission is

3820
01:54:45,100 --> 01:54:46,100
scheduled for Tuesday, July

3821
01:54:46,100 --> 01:54:47,100
28, 2026, at 5:30 p.m.,

3822
01:54:47,100 --> 01:54:48,100
and will be held in the

3823
01:54:48,100 --> 01:54:49,100
Council Chambers located at

3824
01:54:49,100 --> 01:54:51,100
9291 Old Redwood Highway,

3825
01:54:51,100 --> 01:54:53,100
Building 400, Windsor. Thank

3826
01:54:53,100 --> 01:54:55,100
you.