1 00:00:09,519 --> 00:00:12,639 This is the call to order for the 2 00:00:12,639 --> 00:00:16,160 January 14th, 2026 meeting of the Town 3 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:21,590 of Woodside Planning Commission. 4 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:22,960 And we'll start with the Pledge of 5 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:38,389 Allegiance. 6 00:00:38,399 --> 00:00:45,350 Indivisible, liberty, justice for all. 7 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:46,879 » Roll call, please. 8 00:00:46,879 --> 00:00:48,640 >> Chair Weaver, 9 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:49,840 >> present. 10 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,160 >> Commissioner Abfell, 11 00:00:52,160 --> 00:00:53,920 >> present. Remotely. 12 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,360 >> Commissioner Gerko, 13 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:56,079 >> present. 14 00:00:56,079 --> 00:00:57,440 >> Commissioner Tober, 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,000 >> present. Vice Chair Gar is currently 16 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,469 noted absent. 17 00:01:04,479 --> 00:01:07,280 » Are there any changes to the agenda as 18 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,080 published? 19 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,240 >> There are no changes to the agenda and 20 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,360 there are no desk items. 21 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,880 >> Um given that we will open the public 22 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,159 comment period for items which are not 23 00:01:22,159 --> 00:01:25,119 on tonight's planning commission agenda. 24 00:01:25,119 --> 00:01:27,200 This would be an opportunity for members 25 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,360 of the public to speak of items of 26 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:30,640 interest to the planning commission or 27 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,400 the town of Woodside, but which are not 28 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,799 on tonight's agenda. This is 29 00:01:34,799 --> 00:01:36,720 traditionally limited to at the 30 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,640 beginning of the meeting to up to five 31 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,759 speakers, up to three minutes each. Such 32 00:01:41,759 --> 00:01:45,600 items cannot be acted upon, but can be 33 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,159 taken down by staff and agendaized at a 34 00:01:48,159 --> 00:01:50,320 future meeting. Is there anyone here 35 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:54,000 tonight that wishes to speak on an item 36 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,600 not on tonight's agenda? 37 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,200 >> For those online, if you'd like to make 38 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:00,719 a comment, please use the raise hand 39 00:02:00,719 --> 00:02:05,109 feature. 40 00:02:05,119 --> 00:02:08,720 » And I see no raised hands. 41 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,039 Given that we will close the public 42 00:02:11,039 --> 00:02:14,400 comment period 43 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,520 and move on to the consent calendar 44 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,360 which consists of item one and item two 45 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,000 which are the approval of the minutes 46 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,200 from the December 3rd and December and 47 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,280 December 17th planning commission 48 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:30,800 meetings. 49 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,959 Do any commissioners, staff, or members 50 00:02:32,959 --> 00:02:35,599 of the public have any comments, 51 00:02:35,599 --> 00:02:38,640 additions, deletions, or elaborations on 52 00:02:38,640 --> 00:02:44,710 those minutes? 53 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,840 Since there seems to be no request for 54 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,920 that, the chair would entertain a motion 55 00:02:49,920 --> 00:02:52,080 to approve items one and two on the 56 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,470 consent calendar. 57 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,519 » Second the motion. 58 00:02:59,519 --> 00:03:01,599 Uh, could someone make the motion first? 59 00:03:01,599 --> 00:03:06,390 >> So moved. 60 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,000 » Chair Weaver. 61 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:08,560 >> Yes. 62 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,080 >> Commissioner Abfel. 63 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:10,720 >> Yes. 64 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,000 >> Commissioner Gonerko. 65 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:12,560 >> Yes. 66 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:13,760 >> Commissioner Tober. 67 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,000 >> Yes. 68 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,000 >> All right. Um given that we will move to 69 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,120 the next item on our agenda, which is 70 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:24,720 the 71 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,840 um a formal design review and 72 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,519 consideration of a variance for a 73 00:03:31,519 --> 00:03:36,159 property at 125 Farm Road. 74 00:03:36,159 --> 00:03:48,879 And I believe that Sarah's presenting on 75 00:03:48,879 --> 00:03:51,360 this Sarah and I'll just clarify this is 76 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,519 for designer view um a gradient 77 00:03:53,519 --> 00:03:56,400 exception and a maximum resident size 78 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:01,990 exception. 79 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,480 » Okay, thank you. 80 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,439 So I will be introducing the project at 81 00:04:07,439 --> 00:04:11,680 125 Farm Road. The project includes the 82 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,480 construction of a new single family main 83 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,440 residence with an attached garage as 84 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,919 well as a pool house, gym, ADU, swimming 85 00:04:21,919 --> 00:04:24,639 pool, sport court, and other site 86 00:04:24,639 --> 00:04:28,000 improvements on a vacant lot. 87 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,639 The project also includes a maximum 88 00:04:30,639 --> 00:04:33,600 resident size exception and a grading 89 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,880 exception for site grading in excess of 90 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,080 1500 cubic yards. 91 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,919 Um the property is approximately 4.8 92 00:04:43,919 --> 00:04:47,040 acres and it's in the SCP-5 zoning 93 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,800 district. It's located near um Portola 94 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,560 Road in the southern part of town. The 95 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,600 site has a gradual slope um away from 96 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,080 the road to the back of the property 97 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:06,070 where there is a town designated stream. 98 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,400 Uh the as I mentioned the property is 99 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,199 currently vacant and the new main 100 00:05:11,199 --> 00:05:13,680 residence is proposed in uh the 101 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,160 approximate center of the property. So 102 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,440 that's um on the screen that's these 103 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,720 structures here. 104 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,479 There will also be an attached garage 105 00:05:26,479 --> 00:05:28,800 here. 106 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,039 Um and there's uh several other 107 00:05:31,039 --> 00:05:32,560 accessory structures that I mentioned. 108 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,240 So, there's a detached garage here. Uh, 109 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,320 this building over here is a detached 110 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,160 ADU. 111 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,800 And then over here, we have a pool 112 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,400 house, 113 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,520 gym, and then their proposed swimming 114 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,160 pool. And then on this side is a sports 115 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,749 court. 116 00:05:53,759 --> 00:05:56,560 There is an existing driveway that will 117 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,880 be removed and a new driveway is 118 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,680 proposed in the northern corner of the 119 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:08,070 property. That's up here in this corner. 120 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,880 The new driveway will include an autoc 121 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,000 court and parking areas as well as uh 122 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,520 firetruck turnarounds and access roads. 123 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,319 Um, and it'll extend to that sort this 124 00:06:20,319 --> 00:06:22,720 auto court here for the detached garage 125 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,160 and attached garage. 126 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,400 There are vehicle gates proposed. One 127 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,639 sort of at the entrance to the property 128 00:06:30,639 --> 00:06:34,639 and then um two others kind of in this 129 00:06:34,639 --> 00:06:37,680 auto court area. 130 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,360 Um there's a number of fences proposed 131 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:52,629 um with various designs and heights. 132 00:06:52,639 --> 00:06:54,720 The height of the residence will be 133 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,479 approximately 29.7 ft 134 00:06:58,479 --> 00:07:01,360 um at the highest point. It will be 135 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,680 mostly single story with a modest second 136 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,120 story. Uh the main residence and all 137 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,440 accessory structures design will be 138 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,319 similar in style and materials and the 139 00:07:12,319 --> 00:07:13,919 structures are spread throughout the 140 00:07:13,919 --> 00:07:16,560 property to create a lowlying profile 141 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,639 and to be harmonious with the natural 142 00:07:18,639 --> 00:07:21,680 features of the site. And the material 143 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,240 will be vertical wood siding, stone 144 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,319 veneer, vertical wood slat screens, um 145 00:07:28,319 --> 00:07:30,560 painted metal windows and doors and 146 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,120 slate tile roofs. 147 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,759 Um and there are two exceptions as part 148 00:07:35,759 --> 00:07:38,960 of the project. The first is a maximum 149 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,440 resident size exception. Uh this is a 150 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,120 formula based on the size of the lot. So 151 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,440 in the SCP-5 152 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,440 zoning district, the maximum resident 153 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,960 size is 6,000 square ft. 154 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,199 However, the formula allows for 155 00:07:55,199 --> 00:07:56,879 additional square footage depending on 156 00:07:56,879 --> 00:07:59,759 the size of the lot. So, the proposed 157 00:07:59,759 --> 00:08:03,759 main residence is about 7,400 square ft, 158 00:08:03,759 --> 00:08:05,759 which does comply with the maximum that 159 00:08:05,759 --> 00:08:09,360 they're allowed based on their lot size. 160 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,000 And the second exception is a grading 161 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,360 exception. So, the project includes 162 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,160 sight grading in excess of 1500 cubic 163 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,440 yards. The site grading is due largely 164 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,360 to the grading required for the 165 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,400 driveway. So the elevation of the road 166 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,560 is much higher than the elevation of 167 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,280 where the buildings are proposed. So 168 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,360 there's a sign significant amount of 169 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,399 grading um due to the existing terrain 170 00:08:36,399 --> 00:08:40,240 and the access required onto the site. 171 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,880 Um engineering and planning staff have 172 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,880 reviewed the findings for approval of 173 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,720 the grading exception and recommend 174 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,399 approval 175 00:08:48,399 --> 00:08:52,640 um as described in the draft resolution. 176 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,160 The project was reviewed by the ASRB in 177 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,160 July 2025 178 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,560 and the board was supportive of the site 179 00:09:00,560 --> 00:09:03,120 planning, building design, community 180 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,000 character and landscape elements um and 181 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,600 did recommend approval of the project. 182 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,560 Uh the grading exception does require 183 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:14,560 approval by the planning commission. 184 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:17,040 Therefore, uh the entire project shall 185 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,519 be reviewed by the planning commission. 186 00:09:19,519 --> 00:09:21,839 So, the planning commission may approve 187 00:09:21,839 --> 00:09:23,920 the project as presented in the draft 188 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,519 resolution. 189 00:09:25,519 --> 00:09:27,920 Um, you may make changes or add 190 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,920 conditions of approval or deny the 191 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,880 project. But that uh concludes my 192 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,800 presentation and I'm happy to answer any 193 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,440 questions. Thank you. 194 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,279 >> So, this is where we note for the record 195 00:09:39,279 --> 00:09:41,200 that during the staff presentation that 196 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,320 Commissioner Gar entered the room. 197 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,480 >> Yes. And it's noted in the minutes. 198 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,750 >> Thank you. 199 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,160 So, do any of the commissioners have 200 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:56,310 questions for Sarah? 201 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:57,440 » Start with Alex. 202 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,440 >> I don't have any. 203 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:06,310 >> Okay. 204 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:10,000 » Um, yes. 205 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,680 >> Okay. Um, if you're Um, hold on a 206 00:10:13,680 --> 00:10:14,800 second. Let's see if we're done with 207 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:19,440 staff first. Um um um Matt Gar, you have 208 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,600 any questions for Sarah? 209 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:27,910 Okay. Um Sarah, I'm 99% sure the ent 210 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,320 driveway entrance that is still on Farm 211 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:31,760 Road, right? 212 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:32,959 >> Yes, that's correct. 213 00:10:32,959 --> 00:10:34,560 >> It's just at the other corner of the 214 00:10:34,560 --> 00:10:35,279 property. 215 00:10:35,279 --> 00:10:37,760 >> Yeah, I can pull up um a plan and show 216 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,160 you. 217 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,480 Um 218 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,320 so this is like their existing 219 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,240 conditions. So right now their driveway 220 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,519 kind of comes in here sort of center on 221 00:10:49,519 --> 00:10:52,320 the property and they're proposing to 222 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,399 remove that and then move it to like 223 00:10:54,399 --> 00:10:56,800 this corner. But yes, both still on um 224 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,949 Farm Road. 225 00:11:00,959 --> 00:11:03,920 » Absent. Any further questions for Sarah? 226 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,920 We would invite the applicant or the 227 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,600 applicant's architect to come up and 228 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,519 speak. You don't have to do so, but 229 00:11:09,519 --> 00:11:11,680 you're welcome to do so if you want to 230 00:11:11,680 --> 00:11:14,720 say a few words or a lot of words. 231 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,470 Keep it brief hopefully. 232 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,560 » Good evening. Um, my name is Marcus. I'm 233 00:11:20,560 --> 00:11:21,920 from Arcano Architecture with the 234 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:26,160 architects on this project. Oh, 235 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:27,600 >> how about that better? 236 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:28,320 >> Oh, sure. 237 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,079 >> Uh, my name is Marcus. I'm from Arcano 238 00:11:30,079 --> 00:11:31,519 Architecture, the architects of the 239 00:11:31,519 --> 00:11:34,160 project. Um, as Sarah introduced 240 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,480 fantastically in this, uh, we have a a 241 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,200 grading issue with the site. Uh the 242 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,680 levels from Farm Road down to the 243 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:43,760 largely flat portion of the site are 244 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,399 challenging. Uh so we've relocated the 245 00:11:46,399 --> 00:11:49,519 driveway as mentioned uh partly due to 246 00:11:49,519 --> 00:11:50,959 um the building position which were 247 00:11:50,959 --> 00:11:53,920 limited on by the uh the fault line kind 248 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,360 of trench investigation that was 249 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,160 conducted and then also on septic um 250 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,680 requirements. So percolation tests uh to 251 00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:03,440 kind of locate that septic requirement 252 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,519 at the top of the site. Uh so by 253 00:12:05,519 --> 00:12:08,240 shifting the driveway to the far corner, 254 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,959 we've tried to lower uh the actual you 255 00:12:10,959 --> 00:12:13,120 know grading um levels that we're 256 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:14,399 working with. So it's the it's the 257 00:12:14,399 --> 00:12:16,880 lowest corner of the site as well as 258 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,160 maximize the septic um allowance that we 259 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,959 can we can work with uh by keeping most 260 00:12:22,959 --> 00:12:24,800 of the project or most of the site as 261 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,880 natural as possible. So, that's kind of 262 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,120 why the why we've moved the driveway. 263 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,360 And then the building itself, uh, we've 264 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,519 positioned to limit the amount of cut 265 00:12:33,519 --> 00:12:37,040 and fill that's going on. So, we've pushed it up into the hill because 266 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,959 we know we're going to have to add some, 267 00:12:38,959 --> 00:12:41,360 uh, some some, you know, earth to get 268 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,279 our driveway working. So, the goal is to 269 00:12:43,279 --> 00:12:46,480 have a almost net um, even cut and fill 270 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,320 on the site. That's where this grading 271 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,440 exception is kind of coming into play. 272 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,360 Uh, in terms of the building itself, 273 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:54,399 we're kind of we're working with 274 00:12:54,399 --> 00:12:56,639 agricultural forms. So, a number of 275 00:12:56,639 --> 00:12:59,519 volumes in a courtyard uh orientation 276 00:12:59,519 --> 00:13:01,440 and then several outbuildings with kind 277 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,279 of barnlike uh structures to kind of uh 278 00:13:05,279 --> 00:13:07,279 break up the the massing and then also 279 00:13:07,279 --> 00:13:10,000 lean into the the surrounding buildings 280 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,519 or the the agricultural um 281 00:13:13,519 --> 00:13:17,360 lay of the land so to speak. Uh 282 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,760 that's the kind of just to you know jump 283 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,360 on the back of Sarah's introduction 284 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,200 that's the the overall picture. Um, I'm 285 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,040 happy to go into more of the the details 286 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,560 of the project. We've also got on the 287 00:13:26,560 --> 00:13:28,320 call, we've got landscape architects um 288 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,560 from Grand Studio and we have our civil 289 00:13:30,560 --> 00:13:33,120 engineers at BKF uh for more detailed 290 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:34,399 questions that I might not have the 291 00:13:34,399 --> 00:13:36,800 answers to. 292 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,000 Thank you. 293 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,750 Okay. Um, 294 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:44,959 now would be the time for the 295 00:13:44,959 --> 00:13:48,000 commissioners to uh what put questions 296 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,470 uh to the applicant if they have any. 297 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:53,519 Yeah. Hi. 298 00:13:53,519 --> 00:13:54,720 >> Hi. 299 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,880 >> So, I I have a question regarding the 300 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,680 tree removal of the 54 significant 301 00:13:59,680 --> 00:14:02,639 trees. I'm sorry. I I probably am not 302 00:14:02,639 --> 00:14:06,079 looking and it's in the plans. Uh the 303 00:14:06,079 --> 00:14:08,000 tree removal page. 304 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,360 >> Yeah. 305 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:10,880 >> Do you know which one that might be? 306 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,680 >> Uh A2. We've got the existing plan and 307 00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:17,839 then A3 uh is our proposed. So A3 is 308 00:14:17,839 --> 00:14:19,839 probably our friendliest one there. Can 309 00:14:19,839 --> 00:14:20,959 you repeat that, please? 310 00:14:20,959 --> 00:14:21,920 >> A 03. 311 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:22,720 >> A Z3. 312 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,519 >> Yes. 313 00:14:25,519 --> 00:14:28,000 >> I noticed that uh you're planning a lot 314 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,399 of bushes 315 00:14:30,399 --> 00:14:34,160 um along the bottom section of Farm 316 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:34,880 Road. 317 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,389 >> Mhm. 318 00:14:38,399 --> 00:14:41,920 » And how high are those 319 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:43,760 when mature? 320 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,120 I am going to let uh our friends at 321 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,680 ground studio pop in that one. Uh the 322 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,040 landscape architects on the page. Have 323 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,519 we got uh yeah Johnson will jump in 324 00:14:53,519 --> 00:15:02,230 here? 325 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,760 So if you could help me which area has 326 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,680 the majority of trees removed? 327 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,440 >> Uh it will be along the the northern 328 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,079 boundary. So along along Farm Road, 329 00:15:14,079 --> 00:15:16,720 there's a 330 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,480 >> That's right. So along Farm Road and the 331 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,639 common uh the common property line on 332 00:15:20,639 --> 00:15:22,639 the north side as well as there's some 333 00:15:22,639 --> 00:15:24,880 removals that need to take place on the 334 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,440 western side. A majority of the trees 335 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,279 that were removed almost in their 336 00:15:29,279 --> 00:15:32,560 entirety. Uh you'll note uh along with 337 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,880 the corresponding arburous report are 338 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,040 trees that are in very poor health. And 339 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,320 actually since we have submitted for and 340 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,480 our our our initial set of documents, 341 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:43,760 there are several trees that have come 342 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,120 down on site of their own valition. Uh a 343 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,160 lot of this has to do with uh either 344 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,639 mistakes in planting trees long ago. 345 00:15:52,639 --> 00:15:54,160 There's some African pines and there's 346 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,720 some eucalyptus trees on site that were 347 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,399 simply planted too closely together and 348 00:15:58,399 --> 00:16:00,639 they've colonized um through the 349 00:16:00,639 --> 00:16:02,399 agricultural use. Over time, as you 350 00:16:02,399 --> 00:16:04,560 know, seeds get dispersed along fence 351 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,040 lines. And so, there's a very dense 352 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,320 collection of trees. And so, uh, as part 353 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,759 of our our urban forest best management 354 00:16:13,759 --> 00:16:16,240 practices, we are doing we're proposing 355 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,519 some selective thinning of ailing trees. 356 00:16:19,519 --> 00:16:21,600 Uh, and along with the on the tree 357 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,759 removal sheet, you can see the reasons 358 00:16:23,759 --> 00:16:25,360 listed in the arborist report for those 359 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:26,959 trees coming down. So, yes, the number 360 00:16:26,959 --> 00:16:29,680 is the number is what the number is. Um 361 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,320 but we feel very strongly that the moves 362 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,000 that we're making to protect the health 363 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,079 of the overall urban forest specifically 364 00:16:36,079 --> 00:16:39,360 along common property lines um are meant 365 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,920 to enhance viewsheds rather than create 366 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,959 these you know uh unsightly barriers. So 367 00:16:44,959 --> 00:16:46,800 to answer your question the largest 368 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,440 plants that we have uh currently planned 369 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,759 for common boundaries um would be in the 370 00:16:51,759 --> 00:16:55,990 7 to9 foot range. 371 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,480 » So in yellow would be 7 to 9 foot range. 372 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,320 Oh, excuse me. Sorry. That those those 373 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,320 trees we're thinking of of those as 374 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,079 ornamental olive trees that we would 375 00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:08,640 keep in the 12 to 15 foot range. 376 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,439 >> And those are uh on the hill obviously 377 00:17:11,439 --> 00:17:13,600 down at the the toe of the slope as you 378 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:20,390 head um head towards the house. 379 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:21,600 » All right. Thanks. 380 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,559 >> Mhm. And just to clarify um for the 381 00:17:24,559 --> 00:17:27,199 record while we have you here, it's 54 382 00:17:27,199 --> 00:17:30,080 trees, not necessarily 54 significant 383 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:30,720 trees. 384 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:31,760 >> That's correct. 385 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:36,470 >> Okay. 386 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,039 » Uh gentleman was mentioning that uh 387 00:17:39,039 --> 00:17:43,440 these a lot of them are unhealthy trees. 388 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,000 >> That's correct. 389 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,240 >> Be large and unhealthy. Significant and 390 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,640 unhealthy. 391 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:57,679 Um, Sage, how are um how are the trees counted in a report 392 00:17:57,679 --> 00:18:00,640 like this? 393 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,280 You will have your number of trees and 394 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,360 then sometimes not all of them are 395 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:08,320 significant. So let's look at I think 396 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:14,070 what we're looking at uh AO2 I think. 397 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,799 » Yeah. So 398 00:18:16,799 --> 00:18:20,960 AO2 will show the diameter size of the 399 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,320 different trees. Um 400 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,760 and they use the word protected or not 401 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,679 protected under significance. Uh so I 402 00:18:31,679 --> 00:18:38,960 believe there will be some that for removal that 403 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,880 are not significant trees. There will be 404 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,240 a handful of those. 405 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,559 >> Right? Because where I get confused and 406 00:18:44,559 --> 00:18:46,640 then you could perhaps educate me on 407 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,360 this is that 408 00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:52,000 I would consider a significant tree in 409 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,760 the context of something that would 410 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,679 require a tree destruction permit from 411 00:18:55,679 --> 00:18:57,440 the town if I were just doing 412 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,320 maintenance of my uh you know property. 413 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,520 >> You're exactly correct. So uh there's 414 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,640 three categories of significant trees. 415 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,720 Um there's a short list of fast growing 416 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,880 natives, a short list of slow growing 417 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,960 natives, and then there's everything 418 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,919 else. Um and so those three different 419 00:19:15,919 --> 00:19:18,480 categories have different diameter size, 420 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,240 what is determined to be significant, 421 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,640 and you are correct that if you were not 422 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,120 deemed significant, it would not require 423 00:19:25,120 --> 00:19:27,360 a tree destruction permit by the town. 424 00:19:27,360 --> 00:19:29,039 So, there are a handful of trees here 425 00:19:29,039 --> 00:19:31,840 that would not require a permit um if 426 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,240 they did not meet those size uh restrict 427 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:41,669 our size minimums. 428 00:19:41,679 --> 00:19:49,830 Other questions for the applicant? 429 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,160 » Commissioner Appfell. 430 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,480 >> No, no questions from my end. Thank you. 431 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,320 Um 432 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,640 given that um if there are no further 433 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,679 questions for the applicant, we can go 434 00:20:03,679 --> 00:20:05,760 ahead and move on to the public comment 435 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,280 period. 436 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,120 If there are members of the public 437 00:20:09,120 --> 00:20:12,320 either in the room, which seems to be 438 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,320 the uh the empty set or anyone online 439 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,880 that would like to comment on this, now 440 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,720 would be your time to uh speak up. 441 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,640 And as a reminder for those online, 442 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,160 please use the raised hand feature if 443 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:32,070 you'd like to make a comment. 444 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,559 » There are no raised hands. 445 00:20:34,559 --> 00:20:36,559 >> Given that we will close the public 446 00:20:36,559 --> 00:20:38,159 comment period and move on to 447 00:20:38,159 --> 00:20:40,799 commissioner deliberation. 448 00:20:40,799 --> 00:20:45,440 And I invite Commissioner Gar to start. 449 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,320 Sure. Um, so I mean looking at it, I 450 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:49,840 guess a number of things, you know, as 451 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,240 far as the grading in particular, it's 452 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:53,120 basically 453 00:20:53,120 --> 00:20:54,720 >> if you could speak into the microphone, 454 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,240 just make sure everyone on Zoom here is 455 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,919 listening. Is it There we go. Um, 456 00:20:59,919 --> 00:21:02,240 the the volumes are relatively balanced, 457 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,159 so there's not a lot of inflow outflow. 458 00:21:04,159 --> 00:21:06,320 So I think that's great. We talk 459 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:07,520 sometimes about, you know, lots of 460 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,000 trucks and traffic and road damage. So 461 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,360 this will all sort of be contained on 462 00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:13,919 site, which seems good. Um I mean it 463 00:21:13,919 --> 00:21:15,280 looks like the area that we're 464 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,159 traversing of the high slope is as far 465 00:21:18,159 --> 00:21:19,440 as I understand it kind of condition 466 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,520 coming off of the road that was graded 467 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,799 previously. Uh so kind of going over 468 00:21:24,799 --> 00:21:26,880 that seems fine. We also you know in 469 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,320 many cases have looked at 35% and found 470 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,799 it acceptable as well. So it seems 471 00:21:32,799 --> 00:21:34,240 pretty uncontroversial. I mean I agree 472 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,480 on the ASRB 473 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,400 uh findings in general in the house is I 474 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,640 think quite tasteful. blends in like a 475 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,640 lot of square footage but looks kind of 476 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,280 it I sort of it fades in nicely. It's 477 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,120 kind of like almost like type of design 478 00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:50,320 which which is kind of cool. And so from 479 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,159 my perspective it seems it seems pretty 480 00:21:52,159 --> 00:22:02,789 reasonable. 481 00:22:02,799 --> 00:22:05,520 » Richard, do you have any comments? 482 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:11,190 >> No negative comments this time. 483 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,200 Alex, 484 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,440 >> no I don't. I think I I follow the 485 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,679 staff's rationale on the formal design 486 00:22:17,679 --> 00:22:19,280 review with regards to community 487 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,280 character and 488 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,039 site planning. I think the site planning 489 00:22:23,039 --> 00:22:26,710 has some constraints 490 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,559 with regards to the building design and 491 00:22:28,559 --> 00:22:30,159 the landscape elements. I think with 492 00:22:30,159 --> 00:22:33,600 regards to the two exceptions 493 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,559 on resident size, I mean it's within the 494 00:22:36,559 --> 00:22:38,320 >> Sorry again. you just speak into the 495 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,480 microphone. The people on Zoom can hear. 496 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,799 >> I think with regards to the exceptions 497 00:22:42,799 --> 00:22:46,480 um it's with it's within the 498 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,440 um within the except with within the 499 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,039 exception 500 00:22:51,039 --> 00:22:54,240 um and then under grading as Matt said, 501 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,559 I mean it's 502 00:22:56,559 --> 00:23:00,559 it nets out. So good. 503 00:23:00,559 --> 00:23:03,360 >> Commissioner, 504 00:23:03,360 --> 00:23:05,440 >> I have nothing substantive to add to my 505 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,520 fellow commissioners. I'm uh very 506 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,480 supportive of the project. 507 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,720 >> I will just echo what Commissioner Afel 508 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,880 said. I'm supportive of the project and 509 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,280 can make the findings. 510 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,440 >> So given that we could entertain a 511 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,360 motion to approve the draft resolution. 512 00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:27,909 >> So moved. 513 00:23:27,919 --> 00:23:32,230 » And I second. 514 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:33,440 » Chair Weaver. 515 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:33,840 >> Yes. 516 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:34,880 >> Vice Chair Gar. 517 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,039 >> Yes. Commissioner Appfell, 518 00:23:37,039 --> 00:23:37,679 >> yes. 519 00:23:37,679 --> 00:23:38,960 >> Commissioner Gonerko, 520 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:39,280 >> yes. 521 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:40,559 >> And Commissioner Tober, 522 00:23:40,559 --> 00:23:42,720 >> yes. 523 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,640 >> All right, 524 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,320 that takes care of that item. And moving 525 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,080 on, Sage, do you have anything for us 526 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:50,400 tonight? 527 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,400 >> Um, first, I'll just note that there is 528 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,240 a 10-day appeal period. And if anyone 529 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,000 would like to appeal the decision of the 530 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,840 planning commission, uh, please see the 531 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,640 deputy uh, town clerk. Um, and 532 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,640 >> there is a fee involved for appealing. 533 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,000 >> Yes. Yes. Thank you. Um, and as far as 534 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,760 you do have two director's reports from 535 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,240 November and December in your packet. 536 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,360 Um, I'll just go to the December one. 537 00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:15,600 Most notably, something that's kind of 538 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,840 this nice new inclusion into these 539 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,880 reports are what our housing numbers 540 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:26,240 are. And so we completed 2025. So, um, 541 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,360 we can note that the town had a total 542 00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:32,400 of, let me double check on my head, uh, 543 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,799 11 single family dwellings, which is 544 00:24:34,799 --> 00:24:36,080 actually a little bit higher than 545 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,640 typical. Typical or a little bit close 546 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,320 to 10 or under 10. Um, and then we had, 547 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,120 uh, 23 accessory dwelling units, hoping 548 00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:48,320 for that 25, but we did get to 23. And, 549 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,000 um, that is also a fair number. Um we 550 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,480 have been kind of hovering around the 20 551 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,400 to 23 range over the last few years. Uh 552 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,039 if everyone may recall that our housing 553 00:25:01,039 --> 00:25:04,799 element targeted 15 per year for ADUs. 554 00:25:04,799 --> 00:25:07,279 Um so we've always uh for every year of 555 00:25:07,279 --> 00:25:09,919 this housing element cycle, we have been 556 00:25:09,919 --> 00:25:12,799 um well above that 15 number. So that's 557 00:25:12,799 --> 00:25:15,679 good news for the town. Uh well that's 558 00:25:15,679 --> 00:25:17,840 good news. There's still a ways to go um 559 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,640 through this cycle. we still need to uh 560 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,559 have varied types of housing throughout 561 00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:24,880 the town. So town will continue to 562 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,880 pursue the different programs and 563 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,880 strategies within the housing element. 564 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,279 Um but it is nice to report that those 565 00:25:31,279 --> 00:25:33,360 numbers for single family dwellings and 566 00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:37,520 ADUs um are at or above where we would 567 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:38,799 expect them to be. 568 00:25:38,799 --> 00:25:41,600 >> As are those the SFRs are all net new? 569 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,799 >> Uh they're I wouldn't say net new. um 570 00:25:44,799 --> 00:25:49,840 the the HCD uh used to count finaled 571 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,960 permits and they would do a net 572 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,880 calculation. Um so demolished versus uh 573 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,360 what's new. Um they still have you track 574 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:01,679 the demolished units although that does 575 00:26:01,679 --> 00:26:04,320 not come into play with regards to units 576 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,840 being counted towards your arena 577 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,679 numbers. And so and also the numbers uh 578 00:26:09,679 --> 00:26:12,400 now are counted based on permits issued 579 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,159 as opposed to permits final. Um and so 580 00:26:16,159 --> 00:26:17,440 there's a a bit of a different 581 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,240 methodology. So sometimes people will 582 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,279 gasp and maybe should at the larger uh 583 00:26:23,279 --> 00:26:25,760 allocations distributed to the different 584 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,559 jurisdictions noting that there is some 585 00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:31,120 slight changes in how units are counted 586 00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:32,559 uh which would be to the benefit of 587 00:26:32,559 --> 00:26:34,240 jurisdictions being able to just count 588 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,600 all new units. 589 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,080 >> So the 11 and 23 are issued 590 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,039 >> those are all permits issued in 2025. 591 00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:46,870 Yep. 592 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,120 Um, and with that, um, yeah, I mean, 593 00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:50,960 you'll see the valuations and permits 594 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,559 listed. You know, we continue to keep 595 00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:55,520 busy. Uh, we've just received, um, I 596 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,520 don't know, four or five planning 597 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,840 applications in the last, uh, two to 598 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,679 three weeks, um, extending back to right 599 00:27:01,679 --> 00:27:04,320 before the break. So, uh, there will 600 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,039 still be more stuff. and uh been working 601 00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:08,960 with the town manager and town 602 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,799 attorney's office and we're focusing on 603 00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:13,600 some goals um many of which will be come 604 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,679 before the planning commission this year 605 00:27:15,679 --> 00:27:18,080 and uh some which will likely be in the 606 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,279 first quarter of this year 607 00:27:21,279 --> 00:27:23,440 >> and then we will definitely be having 608 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,440 another meeting next week. 609 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,520 >> Um no. 610 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:27,919 >> Okay. 611 00:27:27,919 --> 00:27:29,520 >> No, next week has been cancelled. The 612 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,279 next meeting is scheduled for February 613 00:27:31,279 --> 00:27:32,320 4. 614 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:32,720 >> Okay. 615 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,440 >> Yeah. So that concludes my report. 616 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,320 >> We don't have it. 617 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,720 >> Okay. Um 618 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,559 >> does that mean it may or may not happen? 619 00:27:42,559 --> 00:27:44,240 >> It means uh we don't have any items 620 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,400 confirmed yet for the February 4th um 621 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,279 meeting. Um we'll know two Fridays. I 622 00:27:49,279 --> 00:27:51,039 think two Fridays before then we'll have 623 00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:53,600 it confirmed. 624 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,919 >> Did anyone else have anything for Sage 625 00:27:55,919 --> 00:27:58,240 or staff? 626 00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,440 >> Nothing for me. 627 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,279 >> Oh, sorry. Um yes, thank you. There's 628 00:28:01,279 --> 00:28:03,600 just one more thing I'd like to report 629 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,360 um that some commissioners are probably 630 00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:08,080 aware of. Um for districts, one in three 631 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,840 of our planning commissioners, so 632 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,520 Commissioner Gar and Commissioner 633 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,799 Appfell terms are expiring here in 634 00:28:14,799 --> 00:28:18,640 February. And so those um the town is 635 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,799 accepting applications for those that 636 00:28:20,799 --> 00:28:23,360 are due by February 4th. So this is for 637 00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:27,120 districts one and three. Um 638 00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:28,640 so uh if you know anyone in those 639 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,039 districts who would like to apply uh 640 00:28:31,039 --> 00:28:33,200 there is a provision that the council 641 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,760 can point someone out of district with a 642 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,480 four-fifths vote. Um they probably 643 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,640 usually tend to defer to folks who are 644 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,559 in the districts but um if there are 645 00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:44,960 none who apply within the districts uh 646 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,640 they would likely consider some other 647 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,149 alternatives. 648 00:28:50,159 --> 00:28:52,159 » All right with that we will close 649 00:28:52,159 --> 00:28:53,760 tonight's meeting. Thank you very much 650 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,480 everybody.