1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,040 So, we'll call to order. I don't think 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:08,960 we need a formal roll call visual 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,360 confirmation. All five present. Um, 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,360 we'll move right on to communications. 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,200 Are there any members of the public or 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:16,880 otherwise that would like to make a 7 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,119 comment during public communications? 8 00:00:19,119 --> 00:00:20,320 >> I have any comments. 9 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,720 >> Ah, okay. Thank you. Just for the 10 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,199 record, um I'll indicate that council 11 00:00:25,199 --> 00:00:26,880 member Gold has indicated to me that he 12 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,519 will be recusing as you move into close 13 00:00:29,519 --> 00:00:32,399 session is a real uh property interest 14 00:00:32,399 --> 00:00:35,760 conflict which is recognizing. 15 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:36,000 >> Great. 16 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,200 >> Thank you. 17 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:38,559 >> I am I'm going to mention that right at 18 00:00:38,559 --> 00:00:40,879 the top here. Uh so tonight, thank you. 19 00:00:40,879 --> 00:00:43,040 I am speaking as a private citizen 20 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:44,719 tonight because I'm recusing myself from 21 00:00:44,719 --> 00:00:47,840 the close session. Um, I'm here to talk 22 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,000 about the parcel that runs along the 23 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,079 east side of Interstate 280 that you're 24 00:00:52,079 --> 00:00:53,680 going to be discussing in a few minutes. 25 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,480 Sadly, this public comment session will 26 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,239 be the only opportunity that I or any 27 00:00:58,239 --> 00:00:59,920 other interested party doesn't look like 28 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:03,039 there are any, um, will have to provide 29 00:01:03,039 --> 00:01:05,760 input to our elected officials. So, my 30 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,159 first question for you is where did this 31 00:01:08,159 --> 00:01:11,040 issue even come from? When you sit on 32 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,479 that side of the room, you're supposed 33 00:01:12,479 --> 00:01:13,840 to know pretty much everything that's 34 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,760 going on in the town. 35 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,600 Um, but I never heard of this possible 36 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,360 land deal before I got an email from the 37 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,680 town just 4 days ago. Who authorized 38 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,560 this? What's behind this? And why is 39 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,400 this discussion being held behind closed 40 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:27,920 doors? This could have been done at our 41 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,159 regular town council meeting. It's not 42 00:01:30,159 --> 00:01:32,720 like tonight's agenda is so jam-packed 43 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,200 that we couldn't have squeezed this in, 44 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,600 mayor. 45 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,000 Um, but shouldn't our citizens know that 46 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,920 we're contemplating such a consequential 47 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,400 act? This is a big deal. Uh, but my 48 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,479 larger point is why are we doing this at 49 00:01:46,479 --> 00:01:49,680 all? Who wants this? From what I can 50 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,600 tell, there's just one person in our 51 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,680 entire town who's interested in doing 52 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,320 that, and that's Chris Shaw. And he's 53 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,799 not an elected official. People voted 54 00:01:58,799 --> 00:02:01,759 for you. They didn't vote for him. You 55 00:02:01,759 --> 00:02:04,880 set the agenda, not him. And the reason 56 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,399 I took the time to put this little 57 00:02:06,399 --> 00:02:08,160 speech together, which by the way runs 3 58 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,879 minutes and 40 seconds if I do it right, 59 00:02:10,879 --> 00:02:12,640 um, is that the four of you are about to 60 00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:15,520 open up Pandora's box 61 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,440 because once you start discussing the 62 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,840 terms and the price of a parcel, the 63 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,000 last chapter of this story is going to 64 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,239 be a painful repetition of the 65 00:02:24,239 --> 00:02:26,160 contentious housing element hearings we 66 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,480 had in this very room a little over a 67 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,319 year ago. I'm sure you all remember 68 00:02:30,319 --> 00:02:32,879 that. You're going to be forced by the 69 00:02:32,879 --> 00:02:35,040 state to build a bunch of apartment 70 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,160 buildings on a 22acre parcel. That's not 71 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:42,000 a secret. That's the plan. Chris Shaw 72 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,239 said so in the San Francisco Chronicle 73 00:02:44,239 --> 00:02:45,599 that's sitting in front of you right 74 00:02:45,599 --> 00:02:48,080 now. This article that I had sent to you 75 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,319 this afternoon. 76 00:02:50,319 --> 00:02:53,440 It starts by talking price and terms and 77 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,319 the dominoes then start to fall. It's 78 00:02:56,319 --> 00:02:58,080 going to be a bargain price now that 79 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,720 Calrans has been strong armed by Senator 80 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,280 Becker, who did so, by the way, without 81 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,080 any of us asking him to. So, be prepared 82 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:07,680 to be peppered with endless 83 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,159 uncomfortable questions. How can you 84 00:03:10,159 --> 00:03:13,040 possibly pass up this bargain? Closing 85 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,440 that Pandora's box is not going to be so 86 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,000 easy. This is a blunder, I think, of 87 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,159 epic proportions with major consequences 88 00:03:20,159 --> 00:03:22,800 for our town. I know I'm prone to 89 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,239 hyperbole. I don't think I'm 90 00:03:24,239 --> 00:03:26,319 exaggerating here. 91 00:03:26,319 --> 00:03:28,159 If we learned anything from the last 92 00:03:28,159 --> 00:03:30,080 housing cycle, it's that the only 93 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:34,400 leverage HC has over us is forcing us to 94 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,599 build on parcels that we own and we 95 00:03:37,599 --> 00:03:39,920 control. That's the lesson we learned. 96 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,640 If we own parcels, Raundo and High Road 97 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,879 and anything else, they can force us to 98 00:03:44,879 --> 00:03:48,080 do stuff. In this case, what how many 99 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,640 times did I hear people say Sacramento 100 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,360 is holding a gun to our heads? 101 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,040 You probably all said that. I know. I 102 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,280 heard Chris say that many times. Our 103 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,439 town's one saving grace is that we own 104 00:03:59,439 --> 00:04:01,599 so few parcels, most of them are 105 00:04:01,599 --> 00:04:03,680 unbuildable. Do you really want to give 106 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,120 HCD an additional 22 acres to use 107 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,760 against us? And owning this parcel is 108 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,439 hardly going to be free. Right now, we 109 00:04:11,439 --> 00:04:13,840 get 100% of the recreational and scenic 110 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,120 benefits of this parcel for zero cost 111 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,479 and zero liability. It's all on CALR. 112 00:04:20,479 --> 00:04:22,320 Why would we want to change that? So, 113 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,320 what I'm asking you to do is hit the 114 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,360 pause button and first determine if 115 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,240 Woodside should be acquiring any surplus 116 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,720 lands before we go off halfcock 117 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,440 negotiating price and terms before this 118 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,360 Kines's out of control. And if our 119 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,120 citizens don't want it, we should tell 120 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,600 Calrans, "Thanks, but we're not buyers 121 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,080 at this time." That's the right answer. 122 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,400 A little caution costs you absolutely 123 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,639 nothing, but it will spare everyone a 124 00:04:48,639 --> 00:04:50,960 lot of turmoil and stress. But if this 125 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:52,639 discussion about acquiring this parcel 126 00:04:52,639 --> 00:04:54,720 goes any further, the dominoes are 127 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,800 surely going to start to fall. And don't 128 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,240 be surprised when you find yourself 129 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,639 forced to go out against our citizens 130 00:05:00,639 --> 00:05:02,240 and put a bunch of apartment buildings 131 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,639 there. I'm sure you'll complain that 132 00:05:04,639 --> 00:05:06,639 Sacramento is holding a gun to our head 133 00:05:06,639 --> 00:05:09,039 again, but the unfortunate truth is that 134 00:05:09,039 --> 00:05:12,720 you gave them 22 acres of ammunition. 135 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,039 Good governance and transparency. Two 136 00:05:15,039 --> 00:05:17,600 things Woodside prides itself on is 137 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,080 first finding out if our citizens want 138 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,639 or need additional lands and the 139 00:05:22,639 --> 00:05:24,639 consequences of those. Thank you and 140 00:05:24,639 --> 00:05:26,400 thank you for the accommodation on time. 141 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,400 >> Of course. Thank you, Mr. Gold. Any 142 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,479 other public comments? Mr. Burrow. 143 00:05:32,479 --> 00:05:36,080 >> Uh David Burrow, 135 Sheridan Way. Uh 144 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,800 thank you. I would I'm here really to I 145 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,360 uh when I found out about the uh topic 146 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,000 for this meeting, I was quite surprised. 147 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,039 Uh again, as Paul, I had not aware of 148 00:05:47,039 --> 00:05:49,120 any prior discussions about the town's 149 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,800 interest in acquiring land. And um I'm 150 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,560 not aware of any pressure that 151 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,240 Sacramento is putting on us to do 152 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,240 something that would cause us to want to 153 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,600 do this. And uh if we want to do this 154 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,680 just in case, that's not a very good 155 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,680 reason. And I think the one thing you 156 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,280 should think about is as Paul mentioned 157 00:06:07,280 --> 00:06:10,240 is that when you see and and and maybe 158 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,240 there's a legal reason why it's reads 159 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,639 out the way it does in the agenda, but 160 00:06:14,639 --> 00:06:16,400 when it looks like you're negotiating, 161 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,240 it looks like the decisions already been 162 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,000 taken that we're interested in buying 163 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,560 land. And again, I think you you you 164 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,520 know, this has the risk of, you know, 165 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,360 losing a lot of trust that I think the 166 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:32,560 town has in the in the council, in the town staff and in the processes 167 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,960 that we followed in the past. I can't 168 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,919 think of another issue in, you know, in 169 00:06:37,919 --> 00:06:40,560 my time where something caused me to 170 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,319 wonder, you know, what is really going 171 00:06:42,319 --> 00:06:44,479 on? Can we is this really a transparent 172 00:06:44,479 --> 00:06:46,880 organization that is going to seek input 173 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,280 before it takes action? And so whether 174 00:06:49,280 --> 00:06:51,520 or not that it you know is it was really 175 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:52,720 what you maybe you were just trying to 176 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:53,919 find out what the price was and there 177 00:06:53,919 --> 00:06:56,240 was no other way to do it. But if that 178 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:57,759 was if it was anything more than that 179 00:06:57,759 --> 00:06:59,440 then you you're really you know starting 180 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:07,440 to break the bonds of trust with uh with the town residents and and I and I think that's a a sad thing if that 181 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,440 happens. And I would certainly encourage 182 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,840 you to think hard about uh how you're 183 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,240 presenting how this looks and whether 184 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,000 you meant it to look that way or not I 185 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,759 don't know. Uh but it does look that way 186 00:07:19,759 --> 00:07:22,800 and you should be aware of that and uh 187 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,759 maybe maybe we'll find out someday soon 188 00:07:25,759 --> 00:07:27,680 why that was worth it for you to take 189 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,000 that step or maybe you were just awkward 190 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,000 and not doing it in a proper way. I 191 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,800 don't know what the cause was but um but 192 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,720 anyway I just wanted to add that to the 193 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,199 to Paul's comments. Thank you very much. 194 00:07:39,199 --> 00:07:42,479 >> Thank you Mr. Burrow. Any other Yes. 195 00:07:42,479 --> 00:07:45,919 >> Have one hand raised in Zoom. Thomas, 196 00:07:45,919 --> 00:07:52,950 I'm going to allow you to talk. 197 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:59,120 ยป Yes. Good evening. I um share Paul's and 198 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,360 view that this is really happening too 199 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,000 quick without any real discussion or 200 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,960 prior information to the rest of the 201 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,240 public of the town of Woodside. I don't 202 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,440 understand why this is on the agenda. 203 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,759 um it's very confusing and a little 204 00:08:15,759 --> 00:08:19,520 unnerving considering the the costs of 205 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,479 considering something of this scale. So 206 00:08:22,479 --> 00:08:25,039 I strongly advise 207 00:08:25,039 --> 00:08:29,120 the council to terminate this and not to 208 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,599 go forward without 209 00:08:31,599 --> 00:08:34,320 more discussion and involving the 210 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,519 community that you serve. Thank you very 211 00:08:37,519 --> 00:08:39,200 much. 212 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,519 >> Thank you Thomas. 213 00:08:41,519 --> 00:08:44,800 Jen, anything else? Okay, thank you all. 214 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,279 We're going to close uh communications 215 00:08:47,279 --> 00:08:50,880 and move into the close session. So, 216 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,680 we'll just give it a