1 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,320 Are we good to go, Julie? 2 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,430 All right. 3 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,800 This is the call to order for the March 4 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,160 4th, 2026 meeting of the Town of 5 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,400 Woodside Planning Commission. We'll 6 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:49,670 start with the pledge of allegiance. 7 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,440 Roll call, please. 8 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:52,640 >> Chair Weaver, 9 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:53,440 >> present. 10 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:54,399 >> Vice Chair Gar, 11 00:00:54,399 --> 00:00:55,360 >> here. 12 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:56,800 >> Commissioner Evans, 13 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:57,360 >> here. 14 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:58,719 >> Commissioner Gonerko, 15 00:00:58,719 --> 00:00:59,280 >> here. 16 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:04,229 >> Commissioner Tober. 17 00:01:04,239 --> 00:01:06,799 » Are there any changes to the published 18 00:01:06,799 --> 00:01:09,280 agenda? There are no changes to the 19 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,000 agenda. There are no desk items. I do 20 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:13,840 want to just take this opportunity to 21 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,840 introduce and congratulate our new 22 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,560 planning commissioner, uh, Darren Evans. 23 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,640 Um, and also congratulate Matt Gar for 24 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,320 being reappointed. 25 00:01:22,320 --> 00:01:24,000 We have a full group and that's great. 26 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,000 And, uh, look forward to many meetings 27 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,990 ahead. 28 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,479 » Welcome to Darren. 29 00:01:32,479 --> 00:01:37,270 Welcome. 30 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,040 » We will now open our public 31 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,520 communication period for items not on 32 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,560 tonight's agenda. Uh this is an 33 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,520 opportunity for members of the public to 34 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,119 bring up issues of interest to the town 35 00:01:49,119 --> 00:01:51,280 of Woodside and its planning commission, 36 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,360 but which are not on tonight's published 37 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,479 agenda. Uh this is traditionally limited 38 00:01:56,479 --> 00:02:00,719 to up to five speakers at a maximum of 39 00:02:00,719 --> 00:02:02,159 three minutes each at the beginning of 40 00:02:02,159 --> 00:02:03,439 the meeting and if there are more 41 00:02:03,439 --> 00:02:05,040 speakers than that that can be deferred 42 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,360 to the end of the meeting. But this is 43 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,280 for items that are not on tonight's 44 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,599 agenda. So given that is there anyone in 45 00:02:11,599 --> 00:02:13,520 the room or on Zoom that would like to 46 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,280 speak during the public comment period? 47 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,040 >> We have no attendees online at the 48 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:19,760 moment. 49 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,440 >> Okay. 50 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,319 Given that I will close the public 51 00:02:24,319 --> 00:02:26,720 comment period and we can move on to the 52 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,080 consent calendar which seems to consist 53 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,040 of the approval of the minutes from the 54 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,280 February 18th meeting of the planning 55 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,840 commission. 56 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,040 Does anyone in the public 57 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,920 staff or on the commission wish to make 58 00:02:43,920 --> 00:02:47,760 a alteration, correction, elaboration or 59 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,480 other change to the minutes of the 60 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:58,949 February 18th meeting as published? 61 00:02:58,959 --> 00:03:02,720 There being no call for changes, uh the 62 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,040 chair would entertain a motion to 63 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,790 approve those minutes. 64 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,910 motion. 65 00:03:11,920 --> 00:03:16,550 » I second the motion. 66 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:17,599 » Chair Weaver. 67 00:03:17,599 --> 00:03:18,080 >> Yes. 68 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:19,200 >> Vice Chair Gar. 69 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:19,599 >> Yes. 70 00:03:19,599 --> 00:03:21,360 >> Commissioner Evans. 71 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,040 >> Think I should abstain since I wasn't 72 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:24,159 here. 73 00:03:24,159 --> 00:03:25,599 >> Commissioner Gonerka. 74 00:03:25,599 --> 00:03:27,519 >> He learns fast. Yes. 75 00:03:27,519 --> 00:03:28,720 >> And Commissioner Tober. 76 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:39,990 >> Yes. 77 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,360 We will now move on to the main excuse 78 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,000 me uh the main item on tonight's agenda 79 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,400 which is a application for a variance 80 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,239 for a new detached garage at 1583 81 00:03:54,239 --> 00:03:56,959 Kinyatta Lane and I believe that the 82 00:03:56,959 --> 00:04:00,080 staff presenter on this is KGO. 83 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,799 So, KGO, please go ahead and uh start us 84 00:04:04,799 --> 00:04:07,760 off. 85 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,599 >> Hello and thank you. I will be 86 00:04:09,599 --> 00:04:12,400 introducing the project at 1583 Kinyata 87 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,799 Lane for planning commission review. For 88 00:04:14,799 --> 00:04:16,959 this review, uh the applicant requests 89 00:04:16,959 --> 00:04:19,519 approval of a variance to the setback 90 00:04:19,519 --> 00:04:21,680 requirements for the construction of a 91 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,160 new detached garage that would encroach 92 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,800 into the front required front setback. 93 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,560 And this application is categorically 94 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:29,840 exempt under the California 95 00:04:29,840 --> 00:04:32,880 Environmental Quality Act SQA guidelines 96 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,880 1533 97 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,120 uh new construction of small structures 98 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,040 including garages. And as the planning 99 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,120 director has mentioned earlier, uh there 100 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:48,629 are no desk items at this time. 101 00:04:48,639 --> 00:04:50,479 And to give a quick summary on the 102 00:04:50,479 --> 00:04:53,040 property, the property size is 0.88 88 103 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,160 acres and is in the suburban residential 104 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,199 uh SR zoning district which has basic 105 00:04:59,199 --> 00:05:02,160 setbacks of 50 ft from the front uh 106 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,720 property line, 25 ft from the rear and 107 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,639 20 ft from the sides of the property 108 00:05:06,639 --> 00:05:09,759 line. The overall site is relatively 109 00:05:09,759 --> 00:05:12,880 flat on the southwestern portion uh 110 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,400 inclining through the center and 111 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,120 northeastern portions. The elevation 112 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,880 ranges from 148 ft on the southern side 113 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,919 to approximately 185 ft on the northern 114 00:05:23,919 --> 00:05:26,800 side. The site contains an existing 115 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,360 one-story single family residents and 116 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,199 existing heartscape that are located on 117 00:05:31,199 --> 00:05:33,680 the relatively flat uh southwestern 118 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,039 portion of the site. And as mentioned in 119 00:05:37,039 --> 00:05:39,360 the staff report, uh the project site 120 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,039 includes an easement for a public 121 00:05:41,039 --> 00:05:44,560 rideway at the southern side. And this 122 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,320 determination was made by the town's 123 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,400 engineering department. And this 124 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,160 determination is important for 125 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,919 determining lot size for allowable 126 00:05:53,919 --> 00:05:56,080 uh thresholds for floor area and paved 127 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:57,919 area as well as determining uh the 128 00:05:57,919 --> 00:06:01,830 setbacks from the front. 129 00:06:01,840 --> 00:06:03,280 And as mentioned, the applicant is 130 00:06:03,280 --> 00:06:04,960 requesting approval of a variance to 131 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,440 locate the detached garage uh within the 132 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,960 front setback. Um, as explained earlier, 133 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,840 the 30 foot half width of the kinyatta 134 00:06:13,840 --> 00:06:16,319 lane uh projects into the front side of 135 00:06:16,319 --> 00:06:18,800 the project site. Uh, therefore, the 136 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,720 proposed location of the garage would be 137 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,600 1 ft away from the interior boundary of 138 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,160 this rideway. Uh, the proposed location 139 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,000 of the garage would require the removal 140 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,520 of three trees in its vicinity. Uh, the 141 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,319 proposed garage would be designed in the 142 00:06:34,319 --> 00:06:36,240 same style as the existing main 143 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,800 residence. And as you can see on the uh 144 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,639 physical materials board on your left 145 00:06:40,639 --> 00:06:44,560 hand side uh shows uh the materials uh 146 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,039 for the proposed garage 147 00:06:47,039 --> 00:06:49,280 uh including uh identical exterior 148 00:06:49,280 --> 00:06:52,160 materials such as brick uh black asphalt 149 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,800 roof finishes and gray stained wood 150 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,469 siding color. 151 00:06:58,479 --> 00:07:00,560 Here are the elevations for the proposed 152 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,960 garage. 153 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,280 Here 154 00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:08,000 is the existing uh vantage points uh 155 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,440 from the adjacent kinata lane and from 156 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:16,150 the private road. 157 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:17,759 Lastly, staff recommends that the 158 00:07:17,759 --> 00:07:20,240 planning commission adopt the draft 159 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,880 resolution in attachment one uh making 160 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,720 the required findings to approve the 161 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,039 variance. And so that concludes my 162 00:07:27,039 --> 00:07:29,120 presentation. Uh staff is happy to 163 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,199 answer any questions. Uh story polls 164 00:07:31,199 --> 00:07:32,720 were installed at least 10 days before 165 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,720 the hearing date and the applicant is 166 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,400 also here in attendance to answer any 167 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,469 questions. Thank you. 168 00:07:40,479 --> 00:07:42,240 » Do any members of the commission have 169 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,039 questions for staff? 170 00:07:45,039 --> 00:07:47,039 >> I I do. So So that I mean it seems like 171 00:07:47,039 --> 00:07:49,440 the nature of this whole thing is based 172 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,639 on the 30foot implied sort of right of 173 00:07:52,639 --> 00:07:54,800 way right from from Kenyatta from what I 174 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,000 can kind of tell. So, um I mean I guess 175 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,599 it seems like that's historically. 176 00:07:59,599 --> 00:08:01,120 There's 177 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,080 records that are kind of there. We think 178 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,759 it does exist, but the implied thing was 179 00:08:07,759 --> 00:08:09,039 a little bit weird. So, I mean, my my 180 00:08:09,039 --> 00:08:11,280 read of this whole thing is essentially 181 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,240 we have a 30 foot se from the road where 182 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,800 the road is. It's unlikely that would 183 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,440 ever get built into the implied right of 184 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,360 way. So, that that's kind of how I'm 185 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,360 looking at it, but is that the right way 186 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,680 to look at it? And you know, 187 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:26,000 >> yes. 188 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,800 >> How have how are cases on this street 189 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,160 been looked at in the past? 190 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,080 >> The so our engineering department then 191 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,560 we have outside consulting surveyors who 192 00:08:34,560 --> 00:08:36,719 review all the different documents. Um 193 00:08:36,719 --> 00:08:39,360 based on what they reviewed um they 194 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,919 determined that the easement is there um 195 00:08:41,919 --> 00:08:43,440 it wasn't something that was recorded on 196 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,040 the property but given all the different 197 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,640 documentation they have uh that it is an 198 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,880 easement for a road right away. Um, you 199 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,760 are correct. There is there are no plans 200 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,240 to widen that road now and there 201 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,399 probably wouldn't be plans to widen that 202 00:08:58,399 --> 00:09:00,720 road in any time in the near future for 203 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,160 sure. Um, uh, so yeah, it is it will 204 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,720 still at least for several years unless 205 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,480 something drastic changes out there with 206 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,240 road widening and sidewalks and things 207 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,800 of that nature. Um, then it would still 208 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,959 have that buffer between the roadway and 209 00:09:14,959 --> 00:09:17,839 the proposed garage. just follow. Have 210 00:09:17,839 --> 00:09:20,320 there been other other projects with 211 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,120 this that we've come across before? And 212 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,160 is do we have a precedent? 213 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,320 >> It's it's not completely uncommon. You 214 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,720 get into older, you know, when lots were 215 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,440 cut up, you know, pre-1950, 216 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,240 uh, you get a lot of these things coming 217 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,240 up from time to time. Um, you get into 218 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,240 the western hills, there's questions 219 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,680 about right road right ofway widths. Um, 220 00:09:41,680 --> 00:09:43,279 I don't know if anyone was around and 221 00:09:43,279 --> 00:09:45,680 215 Grand View was heard. that was a 222 00:09:45,680 --> 00:09:49,920 major topic of that project. Um, and so, 223 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,680 uh, so it does come up from time to 224 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:54,640 time. 225 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,440 When before there was a subdivision 226 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,800 ordinance, um, lots were created in 227 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,120 different fashions, often just kind of 228 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,560 drawing up a deed and getting it 229 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:06,240 recorded at the county, which was a 230 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,640 legal way to create a lot back then. Um, 231 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:09,839 and sometimes it's a little bit 232 00:10:09,839 --> 00:10:13,120 difficult to find all those details. 233 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,310 Am 234 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,160 I correct in that the uh lot official 235 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,079 lot line is actually goes over in the 236 00:10:22,079 --> 00:10:24,560 road or the entry road. 237 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:26,240 >> Yeah. So what's what's being shown if 238 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,720 you want to pull up the site plan is um 239 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:34,399 is yes you have a 60oot right ofway and so it 240 00:10:34,399 --> 00:10:36,560 usually is 30 feet on one side and 30t 241 00:10:36,560 --> 00:10:38,959 on the other side. Um so if you zoom in 242 00:10:38,959 --> 00:10:41,040 a little bit my eyes aren't that good. 243 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,560 Um the the property line that is the 244 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:48,079 outer boundary of the 30 foot easement 245 00:10:48,079 --> 00:10:50,640 um is just right about where the 246 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,360 pavement is. 247 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,120 >> Okay. 248 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:55,920 >> See 249 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,200 >> the blue the blue the blue is the 250 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:57,839 property line 251 00:10:57,839 --> 00:11:00,240 >> line right? So you know the pavement is 252 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,240 just right around here and you can see 253 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:07,360 the um the the these uh hatched areas. 254 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,200 These are identifying little pockets of 255 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,200 35% slopes. So, it's kind of just 256 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,640 steeping. The road uh pavement kind of 257 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,160 goes right up to where that slope starts 258 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:16,800 to go uphill 259 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,200 >> down at the corner where the garage is 260 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,600 supposed to be. That corner trips over 261 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,949 the road. 262 00:11:24,959 --> 00:11:26,959 That correct? 263 00:11:26,959 --> 00:11:28,959 >> Um Oh. Oh, right here in the corner. 264 00:11:28,959 --> 00:11:31,200 Yes. So, again, it's a roadway easement, 265 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:32,880 right? So, that is something that could 266 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:45,430 exist in that location. 267 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,279 Any other commissioner questions for 268 00:11:47,279 --> 00:11:49,600 staff? 269 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,720 Go for it. So, it's for stage S stage, 270 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,800 excuse me. Uh, can you bring up that 271 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,160 picture um to the right of the driveway? 272 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,040 Not not this part of the uh lot, but 273 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,600 behind the drawing here, behind where it 274 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,360 shows Yeah, that way. Okay. 275 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,360 Um, 276 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,000 so I'm wondering what what is that? It 277 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,920 looks like a wall. Is that a retaining 278 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:15,040 wall? 279 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,360 >> Yeah, it's a it's a short kind of rock 280 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,040 retaining wall. So, right where the 281 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,120 existing driveway is, you notice it 282 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,839 really slopes upward. Um, here the 283 00:12:23,839 --> 00:12:25,680 applicants are also contemplating an ADU 284 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:27,360 in the future. Um, that would probably 285 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,440 be placed in that portion of the the 286 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,440 lot. So from this particular portion, 287 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,920 yes, this is a kind of a short rock 288 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,639 wall. Um that's 289 00:12:36,639 --> 00:12:39,920 >> So the reason I'm asking, you sort of 290 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,560 answered my question. So perhaps there's 291 00:12:42,560 --> 00:12:44,880 plans for the ADU in in the future right 292 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,800 at that spot. When when I visited the 293 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,079 site, um I had a question, why wasn't 294 00:12:50,079 --> 00:12:52,160 the garage put on the right side instead 295 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,360 of sticking into the uh setback? 296 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:56,880 Yeah, and the applicant can also 297 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,800 probably help answer that as well um in 298 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,560 terms of what their thought process was. 299 00:13:00,560 --> 00:13:02,880 Uh but yes, it's partially that they do 300 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,000 have future plans as well as um kind of 301 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,040 uh the slope going upward um at that 302 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,360 portion of site. And so they they chose 303 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:12,720 to keep an area where they typically 304 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,800 park their cars today. 305 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:23,269 >> All right, those are my questions. 306 00:13:23,279 --> 00:13:26,079 Alex, did you have questions? 307 00:13:26,079 --> 00:13:28,639 Um, well, Richard's question prompted a 308 00:13:28,639 --> 00:13:32,000 question from me. Um, 309 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,800 I believe that there was mentioned in 310 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,279 the staff report that the goal is to 311 00:13:37,279 --> 00:13:40,240 create four spa is once the garage is 312 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,399 done to have four spaces of off- 313 00:13:42,399 --> 00:13:44,480 streetet parking. 314 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,760 Will that meet the requirements for what 315 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,480 is built on the property now or will the 316 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,120 construction of a future ADU require 317 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,399 that um more parking be created? 318 00:13:56,399 --> 00:13:58,320 >> It depends on the design of the ADU. So, 319 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,240 if it's a studio apartment, it would not 320 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,160 require a parking space. If it's a 321 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,160 one-bedroom or more, it requires one 322 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,399 parking space. Um and that simply just 323 00:14:06,399 --> 00:14:07,680 has to be something that's in the 324 00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:11,040 driveway area. 325 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,199 Yeah, the the I've seen the driveway 326 00:14:13,199 --> 00:14:16,000 driveways is uh fairly wide and probably 327 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,959 accommodate a lot more than few cars to 328 00:14:18,959 --> 00:14:20,880 park there even for the ADU. 329 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:27,030 >> That's correct. 330 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,440 Um, given an absence of further 331 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,639 questions for staff, the applicant or 332 00:14:32,639 --> 00:14:34,320 the applicant's representative is 333 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,480 invited but not required to come and 334 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,880 speak and let us know uh your thoughts 335 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,639 and what you're asking for. So, um, feel 336 00:14:44,639 --> 00:14:47,600 free to come up to the mic if you wish. 337 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:52,150 You're not required. 338 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,480 Um, if you don't have a presentation, 339 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,320 whoever you want to designate to come up 340 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,399 and field questions, 341 00:14:58,399 --> 00:15:00,880 go on up to the mic. 342 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,560 >> And you can just press that red handle 343 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,800 on the mic to adjust the height. 344 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,720 >> So, make yourself comfortable. 345 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,320 >> Height's okay. 346 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,000 >> Okay. 347 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,320 Um, questions for the applicant. 348 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,240 >> So, I just had one. um doesn't really 349 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:15,920 apply to most of what was talked about, 350 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:20,079 but the I saw a down the right side uh a 351 00:15:20,079 --> 00:15:21,600 stream bed looks like a way to sort of 352 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,760 funnel water. Um is there do you guys 353 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,240 ever have any water problems running off 354 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,320 the road? 355 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,079 >> If you could Sorry, I just we it's for 356 00:15:30,079 --> 00:15:31,360 recording and people on Zoom if you 357 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,160 could speak to in the microphone. 358 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,800 This is the under the water comes down 359 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,440 the hill and it's met in a French drain 360 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,079 and goes underneath the driveway and the 361 00:15:42,079 --> 00:15:45,120 that rock wall it uh creek bed 362 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,519 dissipates the water. If you look at it 363 00:15:47,519 --> 00:15:50,079 the the t it tails off to the right. So 364 00:15:50,079 --> 00:15:51,519 if there's any water that makes it that 365 00:15:51,519 --> 00:15:54,240 far then it just trickles down. So no 366 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,320 never had any flooding. The runoff that 367 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,639 comes off the property 368 00:15:58,639 --> 00:16:00,959 uh is minimal. We don't have any. 369 00:16:00,959 --> 00:16:03,040 >> Do you get some off the road into your 370 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:04,560 property? 371 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,720 >> Well, the upper lot, you know, rain 372 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,120 comes down over the upper lot and and 373 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,959 washes down to the to my house at 1583. 374 00:16:12,959 --> 00:16:15,040 >> The then I guess this is hopefully 375 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,040 you're thinking about this. The I saw 376 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,360 the um it does go down and make that 377 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,120 little curve. I think the curve's 378 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:22,560 underneath the corner of where you want 379 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,199 to build. Um so you may want to like 380 00:16:25,199 --> 00:16:27,279 >> Yeah, it'll have to be moved at the end 381 00:16:27,279 --> 00:16:28,560 a little bit. Yeah, 382 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,399 >> my my property has all kinds of water 383 00:16:30,399 --> 00:16:33,120 issues and 384 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,519 acute awareness. Thank you. 385 00:16:35,519 --> 00:16:41,829 >> Thank you. 386 00:16:41,839 --> 00:16:43,360 » Question just in in terms of choosing 387 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,639 the location. Um Richard asked the 388 00:16:46,639 --> 00:16:48,320 question about looking maybe up the 389 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,800 hill. Maybe just be interesting to kind 390 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,320 of learn just your thought process 391 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,480 around citing it where where it is. And 392 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,240 then also 393 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,519 I'm just interested also like with this 394 00:16:59,519 --> 00:17:03,680 uh implied easement. I I could sort of 395 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,360 how you just think about the site and 396 00:17:05,360 --> 00:17:06,799 how you know folks in the neighborhood 397 00:17:06,799 --> 00:17:08,720 think about the site as far as you know 398 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,360 setbacks being 399 00:17:11,360 --> 00:17:12,480 it sort of seems like if you just look 400 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,079 at it you would think it's from from the 401 00:17:14,079 --> 00:17:16,640 road right um versus this easement. I'm 402 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,400 just interested in all that and how you 403 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,000 thought about the the sighting. Does 404 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:20,880 that make sense? 405 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,439 >> Yeah, go for it. 406 00:17:23,439 --> 00:17:26,000 Hi. Um, 407 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:30,080 so we looked at he currently parks on 408 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,480 the driveway where the where the garage 409 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,840 is cited now. Um, and he uh and David is 410 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:40,080 planning on doing an ADU. So, and not um 411 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:41,919 doing another driveway entrance, 412 00:17:41,919 --> 00:17:44,160 basically coming up and then turning up 413 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,480 into an ADU. So, that is actually in the 414 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,760 works. Um, but we also didn't want to 415 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,160 locate the garage too far too far from 416 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,039 the house. We we did a bunch of kind of 417 00:17:55,039 --> 00:17:56,559 turning it a different, you know, kind 418 00:17:56,559 --> 00:17:58,400 of turning it. We could do a like 419 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,080 exception and try to go to the to the 420 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,679 side. We looked at all that. We just 421 00:18:01,679 --> 00:18:03,919 didn't have enough space between the 422 00:18:03,919 --> 00:18:06,720 existing house and the garage to turn it 423 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,160 a different way. And then if you pull it 424 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:14,160 up too far, it's then it's all you see 425 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,280 outside of the existing house. the house 426 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,919 um it's it's listed as being built in 427 00:18:19,919 --> 00:18:22,400 1905. Um David actually thinks it was 428 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,120 built earlier than that. So it was way 429 00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:27,600 before the town was incorporated or 430 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,760 there was a zoning ordinance or you know 431 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,280 so that's kind of the main hardship 432 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,799 um and reason for the variance. 433 00:18:36,799 --> 00:18:40,160 Um yeah and the implied easement the 434 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,160 nobody could find an actual recorded 435 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,120 easement. So it's implied because the 436 00:18:45,120 --> 00:18:47,280 you know everybody kind of assumes it's 437 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,200 there but nobody could actually find a 438 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,160 record of it anywhere. 439 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,160 >> When did likement 440 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,880 come up process something that started 441 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,559 playing and then where did the easement 442 00:18:58,559 --> 00:19:01,520 come from or how does that look like? We 443 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,520 started looking well we have to get a 444 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,000 title report for for this process and 445 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,679 the title report didn't have one and 446 00:19:07,679 --> 00:19:09,600 then the survey had had an easement 447 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,080 shown and that was like where so that 448 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,000 started kind of the whole discussions of 449 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,360 where you know and then it became 450 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:17,039 implied and then the city had to kind of 451 00:19:17,039 --> 00:19:20,720 do a whole you know deep dive and um 452 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,360 come up with a ruling on it and everyone 453 00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:25,840 kind of uses it as assumes it's an 454 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,480 easement from from the city and the 455 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,320 property owner side so that's why it's 456 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,320 labeled complied. 457 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:39,029 >> Thank you. 458 00:19:39,039 --> 00:19:40,320 » Alex, you have questions for the 459 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,830 applicant. 460 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,480 Um, 461 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,000 given 462 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,160 what uh, Commissioner Gar and 463 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,000 Commissioner Evans have already asked, I 464 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,919 have no further questions. Um 465 00:19:55,919 --> 00:20:00,240 so given that um we could open the 466 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,440 public comment period 467 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,760 on this issue. And so is there anyone in 468 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,440 the room or online that would wish to 469 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,039 speak regarding this item of considering 470 00:20:13,039 --> 00:20:15,919 a resolution to grant this variance? 471 00:20:15,919 --> 00:20:19,520 >> We still have no attendees online. 472 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,480 Uh there being no public comment period 473 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,880 either written via Zoom or live in the 474 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,440 room, we will close the public comment 475 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,480 period and move on to commissioner 476 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,600 discussion and we will start with 477 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:40,549 Commissioner Evans to welcome him. And 478 00:20:40,559 --> 00:20:43,679 » thanks uh really don't have any 479 00:20:43,679 --> 00:20:45,039 comments. I think it's a logical place 480 00:20:45,039 --> 00:20:47,360 to put it. seems like a if you're going 481 00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:49,200 to add ADU in the future, this should 482 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:50,960 really only place to go and you want to 483 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,880 have enough space in a garage to be 484 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,440 useful. So, seems like a reasonable plan 485 00:20:55,440 --> 00:21:02,710 and very well thought through as well. 486 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,000 Yeah, I think but also one on on on the 487 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,000 points from Commissioner Evans. I mean I 488 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,799 think to me also 489 00:21:10,799 --> 00:21:12,880 it's a question of how we look at the 490 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,640 setbacks which is why I was asking about 491 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,720 you know this 492 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,880 how sure are we about the implied 493 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,159 easement uh etc. And it it it feels to 494 00:21:22,159 --> 00:21:23,600 me like for all intents and purposes 495 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,159 it's set back 30 ft from the road which 496 00:21:26,159 --> 00:21:27,600 I think is what the intent of the 497 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,320 setbacks is intended to do in the first 498 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,760 place. Um I agree also, you know, other 499 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,760 sighting options don't seem as as good. 500 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,080 The distance from other structures is 501 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,720 large. We don't have any any neighbors 502 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,559 or desk items who seem concerned with 503 00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:55,990 it. Uh so from all those reasons, I can make the findings in this case. 504 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,080 » I have very little. I mean I think it's 505 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,559 in the right place. 506 00:22:00,559 --> 00:22:01,840 Sorry, could you just speak into the 507 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,200 microphone? Thank you. 508 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,039 >> I I don't have anything else to add. I 509 00:22:05,039 --> 00:22:06,320 mean, I think it's in the right place. 510 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,840 It doesn't affect other neighbors and 511 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:14,710 it's screened from both roads. 512 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,000 » So, one one comment and maybe one 513 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,440 addition. Um there are three trees. 514 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,400 They're mature trees to be taken down. 515 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,320 Um, their canopy is nice, but their the 516 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,000 canopy is fairly high, so it really 517 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,760 doesn't screen anything. It wouldn't 518 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,760 have screened screened anything. My 519 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:38,159 concern is uh that the uh from the road 520 00:22:38,159 --> 00:22:40,080 there are some shrubs. There are smaller 521 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:44,159 shrubs um not small shrubs, but you 522 00:22:44,159 --> 00:22:46,000 know, I don't know, they're 8 ft high. I 523 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,320 don't quite remember. Uh I just wanted 524 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,280 to stipulate that uh just to make sure 525 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,280 that there is going to be screening, 526 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,000 make sure that these shrubs are in good 527 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,880 health and if they're if one is suspect 528 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,640 or whatever, just to plant something 529 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,120 else that'll be permanent since it's so 530 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:08,390 close to the road. 531 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,760 » So Richard, are you proposing that the 532 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,320 draft resolution be tweaked to add that 533 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,400 requirement? 534 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,600 Yeah, I I see that the owners are 535 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,520 nodding their head. Would be 536 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,400 >> is that allowable, Sage? 537 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:25,840 >> Sorry, what' you say? 538 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:26,480 >> Um 539 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,280 >> yeah, we could amend the the draft 540 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,760 resolution. You could add a condition um 541 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:38,000 to the project if uh to ensure that uh 542 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,720 any of the existing vegetation that um 543 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,039 is not within the footprint of the 544 00:23:43,039 --> 00:23:45,760 building gets retained uh to the extent 545 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,280 feasible. Obviously, there will be some 546 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,400 little grading around that area. 547 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,240 >> Is that language acceptable to you, 548 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,200 Richard, or do you want to try your own? 549 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,559 >> No, no. I'm sure Sage can can articulate 550 00:23:58,559 --> 00:24:01,039 it well. 551 00:24:01,039 --> 00:24:02,799 I guess my my only comment on that would 552 00:24:02,799 --> 00:24:04,799 be 553 00:24:04,799 --> 00:24:08,240 if the intent is is the is the screening 554 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,960 is maybe we put the condition talking 555 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,720 about screening rather than necessarily 556 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,240 the existing vegetation like if the 557 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,919 existing vegetation is 558 00:24:15,919 --> 00:24:18,320 >> Oh, I I meant that you know if there's 559 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,279 any lack in the existing vegetation that 560 00:24:21,279 --> 00:24:25,039 the screening uh should be inspected and 561 00:24:25,039 --> 00:24:26,960 approved. 562 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,000 There there is there is a um looks like 563 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,159 utility boxes on the ground. 564 00:24:32,159 --> 00:24:33,120 >> There's what 565 00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:34,799 >> some there's some utility boxes or 566 00:24:34,799 --> 00:24:36,799 something on the ground that between the 567 00:24:36,799 --> 00:24:39,440 road and where the structure would be. 568 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,279 So if they may not have a whole lot of 569 00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:43,279 space to get too fancy with the shrubs 570 00:24:43,279 --> 00:24:45,679 or the vegetation. 571 00:24:45,679 --> 00:24:48,720 Um just a it's a question really if if 572 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,720 you want to require stuff in there. We 573 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,159 have to make sure there's space to put 574 00:24:52,159 --> 00:24:54,799 it. And what what are those things that 575 00:24:54,799 --> 00:24:56,320 are on the ground behind the in the 576 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,159 corner there 577 00:24:58,159 --> 00:24:59,840 >> or the underground? 578 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,919 >> They're like metal plates. 579 00:25:01,919 --> 00:25:04,000 >> Oh, uh in the road or 580 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,360 >> between the road and and where your 581 00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:06,799 building would be. Yeah. Please come up 582 00:25:06,799 --> 00:25:08,480 to the microphone just so we have it for 583 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,000 the record. 584 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,440 >> Um those boxes, they're labeled uh 585 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,600 there's two electric boxes and one looks 586 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,520 like a cable TV box. 587 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,200 >> Okay. I I just make sure that whatever 588 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,919 we say doesn't uh make them interfere 589 00:25:21,919 --> 00:25:23,200 with those boxes. 590 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,760 >> We could um if if looking for a 591 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,440 condition provide a new condition onee 592 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:30,960 um that's prior to the issuance of a 593 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,240 building permit the applicant shall 594 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,159 submit and then um updated plans uh 595 00:25:36,159 --> 00:25:39,279 indicating to retain the existing 596 00:25:39,279 --> 00:25:41,760 vegetation adjacent to the roadway. Um 597 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,640 if the vegetation needs to be removed, 598 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,520 uh it shall be replaced 599 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,799 with other screening vegetation 600 00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:53,039 that 601 00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:56,080 uh there's I probably planted 602 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,960 somewhere around 90 trees and shrubs on 603 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:08,159 the big shrubs on the property. Um 604 00:26:08,159 --> 00:26:10,240 Whoops. 605 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,480 Don't bail me out here. No. Uh the we're 606 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,400 going to end up every shrub that comes 607 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,799 out of the ground, if it's in where the footprint of the garage, it's going 608 00:26:18,799 --> 00:26:22,320 to get transplanted to other areas. So, 609 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,480 I won't destroy any trees. I'll actually 610 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,080 transplant everyone that comes out of 611 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:26,799 the ground. 612 00:26:26,799 --> 00:26:28,240 >> Those two big oaks you're going to 613 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,520 transplant. 614 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:30,400 >> I'm sorry. 615 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:31,919 >> Those two big oaks? 616 00:26:31,919 --> 00:26:34,080 >> No, they they're coming down. The one 617 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,320 big oak. There's just one big oak there 618 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,240 and it's pretty in poor shape as the 619 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,279 artist said. It's it's dangerous. It 620 00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:44,159 could happen. So, yes. 621 00:26:44,159 --> 00:26:45,760 >> Um, 622 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,320 also the the owner is interested. There 623 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,000 there's an oak and a redwood that's 624 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,240 right as you back out of the garage on 625 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,960 the side. We've shown them as being 626 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:59,039 removed. Um, but he, for the record, is 627 00:26:59,039 --> 00:27:01,440 going to see if he can try to keep them. 628 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,200 It's just kind of a worst case scenario 629 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,120 with the backup if and the cut of the 630 00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:07,279 driveway, but he would like to maintain 631 00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:09,840 them as well. I think he's also willing 632 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:14,000 to um put more shrubs behind the the new 633 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,000 garage once it's up. 634 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,440 >> That that was my point. Yes. 635 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,640 >> Yes. And yeah, he he wants his property 636 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,880 screened as well. So, he's that would be 637 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,640 a perfectly fine condition for us. 638 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:32,480 >> Yeah. Th those utilities are probably in concrete boxes. So, you know, small 639 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,799 roots from shrubs are are not going to 640 00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:35,520 interfere, 641 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,520 >> right? And there's like there's room 642 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,120 between the the garage and where they 643 00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:39,520 are. 644 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,200 >> Yeah. And there's trees. Trees have 645 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,200 large roots and I'm sure they make their 646 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,159 way a lot more invasively than than just 647 00:27:46,159 --> 00:27:48,159 shrubs. 648 00:27:48,159 --> 00:27:50,000 >> So, I want to maybe make another point 649 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,000 on this though, which is so we're 650 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,320 talking about basically a 30-foot 651 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,880 setback from the road that's all within 652 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,919 a 30ft defensible space zone. So, if 653 00:27:59,919 --> 00:28:02,000 we're I don't know. I I don't 654 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,320 necessarily feel comfortable 655 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,720 requiring like planning that we keep 656 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,399 vegetation in an area where fire may 657 00:28:08,399 --> 00:28:10,960 well say like that needs to be taken out 658 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,960 anyway, right? Cuz we have a there's a 659 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,720 5ft dead zone and then beyond there 660 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,399 there's like everything's actually 661 00:28:16,399 --> 00:28:19,120 supposed to be cleared up to 6 ft high. 662 00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:21,520 So, that vegetation is actually like 663 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,120 non-compliant given what fire would come 664 00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:24,000 and say. 665 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:30,870 >> That's a good point. 666 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,600 Yeah, I mean I think if you have an 667 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,440 applicant who is kind of committed to 668 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,360 keeping the vegetation there to the 669 00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:39,360 extent feasible, it' be up to the 670 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:40,559 planning commission they want to add a 671 00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:47,190 condition. 672 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,080 Um 673 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,190 >> well 674 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,760 uh 675 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,720 this week uh I forget the name uh the 676 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,240 company but they've been putting in 677 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,200 utilities right along Kinata Lane. And 678 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,360 anytime a utility goes in, they don't go 679 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,360 more than maybe this far off of the 680 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,799 road. So there's like two or three 681 00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:11,200 layers of shrubs in between that area 682 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,279 and the property line. So, and the 683 00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:15,760 shrubs I have, they grow to about 18t 684 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,799 tall and uh they should they're really 685 00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:21,120 dense when they grow. And uh I think 686 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:27,360 it'll uh look good. 687 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,240 Fine. Just to leave this as is. 688 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,720 I given the fact that in 2026 we're 689 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,559 steering between the fire district and 690 00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:43,200 the more traditional Woodside style of 691 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,840 nestling buildings and shrubbery. Um, 692 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,600 I'd be inclined to leave it as is and 693 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,480 uh rely on the applicant's goodwill and 694 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,480 trying to work it out as best he can 695 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,080 with the fire district, which I think is 696 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,480 an evolving standard 697 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,120 none of us understand. 698 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,960 >> I would second that. That's fine. I I 699 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,679 see that the uh applicants are are quite 700 00:30:05,679 --> 00:30:09,120 amendable to to screen the property in a 701 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,240 proper way and uh that's that's fine 702 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:20,389 with me. 703 00:30:20,399 --> 00:30:23,600 If we're headed towards a consensus, the 704 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,799 chair would entertain motions. 705 00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:29,279 >> Make a resol or I would make a motion to 706 00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:36,070 approve the resolution as presented. 707 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,120 » Chair Weaver, 708 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:37,679 >> yes. 709 00:30:37,679 --> 00:30:38,559 >> Vice Chair Gar, 710 00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:39,120 >> yes. 711 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,640 >> Commissioner Evans, 712 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:41,919 >> Commissioner Gonerko, 713 00:30:41,919 --> 00:30:43,440 >> yes. Commissioner Tober. 714 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,440 >> Yes. 715 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,590 >> So approved. 716 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:50,320 » Good luck. 717 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,310 >> Enjoy your new garage. 718 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,919 » And if you crack the code with dealing 719 00:30:55,919 --> 00:30:57,520 with the fire districts, they do the 720 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,960 inspections. Share your experience with 721 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,880 us. 722 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,399 >> Y 723 00:31:04,399 --> 00:31:06,320 um Sage, do you have anything for us 724 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:06,799 tonight? 725 00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:09,760 >> Um there's no director's report as we 726 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,520 haven't finished. Well, we just wrapped 727 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,840 up February. Um, so we'll have that at 728 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,760 the next meeting. Um, the town is uh 729 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,399 completing its housing element annual 730 00:31:20,399 --> 00:31:23,200 report that will get submitted to HCD. 731 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,960 That will go before the council on March 732 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,960 10th. Um, and 733 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,679 um 734 00:31:31,679 --> 00:31:33,840 and and Julie will reach out to you 735 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,000 about next meeting which is uh April 736 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,240 1st. Um I believe it's also the first 737 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,799 day of Passover. Um, so we're going to 738 00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:44,240 look uh to make sure we we're looking at 739 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,559 um in April is when we switch the chair 740 00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:48,799 and vice chair and we may not have all 741 00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:51,279 commissioners at that first meeting. Uh 742 00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:53,440 so we'll we want to make sure all 743 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,120 commissioners are available when we take 744 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,519 that action. So Julia will reach out. 745 00:31:57,519 --> 00:31:59,600 We're going to look at the first if if 746 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,200 we move it a week if people will be 747 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,279 available or if we just focus on a 748 00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:04,799 second meeting in April. But we'll have 749 00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:06,799 that information uh probably by next 750 00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:07,679 week at the latest. 751 00:32:07,679 --> 00:32:09,360 >> Yeah. Those of us that have school age 752 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,519 children, that's there's usually a 753 00:32:11,519 --> 00:32:13,120 spring break either first or second 754 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:13,600 week. And 755 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,200 >> there is in the San Francisco district 756 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,200 is spring break that week. 757 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,880 >> Yeah, our the Woodside spring break is 758 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,799 the following week. So the first week 759 00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:21,519 should be here. 760 00:32:21,519 --> 00:32:23,120 >> Okay. So that's that's also good to know 761 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,640 for us as well if we're looking to 762 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:25,840 reschedule because that may come. 763 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,600 >> Julie will reach out and get a poll 764 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,440 going and 765 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,960 >> six to 10. 766 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:31,200 >> Yep. 767 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,559 >> Actually, I was not here at the last one 768 00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:34,720 because of the last break. 769 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,880 >> Might be good. 770 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,080 >> Right. So that's it. I have nothing 771 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,120 further to add. 772 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,880 >> Just brief question with with some of 773 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,799 the recent personnel changes. Are there 774 00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:44,799 any does is there any changes to 775 00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:46,240 existing business like things that have 776 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,159 gotten pushed, rescheduled, etc. 777 00:32:48,159 --> 00:32:50,799 >> Um the council schedules are just being 778 00:32:50,799 --> 00:32:53,120 set up and looking at you know what can 779 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,240 uh on each agenda but um but otherwise 780 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,360 notes business as usual. 781 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:58,799 >> No no changes to housing element, things 782 00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:01,039 that were interrupted etc. No, no. 783 00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:03,360 Everything there is just on track and 784 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,480 the that report um should be released by 785 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,799 tomorrow if not the latest Friday in 786 00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:10,159 terms of the report going to the council 787 00:33:10,159 --> 00:33:12,640 on uh March 10th um for the housing 788 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,279 element report. Uh so that that will be 789 00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:18,480 on we do uh we have to submit to HCD by 790 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,120 April 1st of each year. And so there's 791 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,440 the general plan report card uh which 792 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,039 goes through all the elements, but the 793 00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:27,120 housing element is a separate one uh 794 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,880 given that that has much more detailed 795 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,039 information and a different format 796 00:33:31,039 --> 00:33:34,320 that's required by HCD. Um so if you're 797 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,519 interested, that report will be 798 00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:37,200 available by the end of this week. Okay. 799 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,399 >> And it it has the it's a it's a a series 800 00:33:40,399 --> 00:33:43,120 of Excel sheets, a few of which don't 801 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,600 apply necessarily to Woodside. Um, so 802 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,440 you'll see those will be blank, but the 803 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,360 primary ones list all the permits issued 804 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,880 identified by address. Um, and it it 805 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,909 outlines the number and income levels. 806 00:33:57,919 --> 00:34:01,120 » Sage, got a question for you. The uh the 807 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,080 work uh the road work and I guess the 808 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,880 utility work on High Street, does that 809 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,839 have anything to do with the multi- uh 810 00:34:09,839 --> 00:34:13,359 >> uh No, not at all. Um, so I'm not I they 811 00:34:13,359 --> 00:34:15,359 I know the public works director is much 812 00:34:15,359 --> 00:34:17,280 more familiar with it. Um, but that is 813 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,159 not any direct relation to uh the that 814 00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:22,240 site on High Street. 815 00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:27,829 >> I wrote. 816 00:34:27,839 --> 00:34:30,159 » All right. Given that we will close 817 00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:31,599 tonight's meeting. Thank you very much 818 00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:34,599 everyone.