[0:06] Call to order
[0:07] meeting of the ASRB from Monday, June
[0:11] 15th at 4:30 p.m.
[0:14] May I have a roll call, please?
[0:16] >> Chair Lindsey.
[0:17] >> Yes.
[0:17] >> Member Del Gavio. Member Sullivan.
[0:20] >> Here.
[0:20] >> And vice chair Cameron member Middleman
[0:22] are noted absent.
[0:26] » Have any changes to the agenda tonight?
[0:29] >> There are no changes to the agenda and
[0:31] no disk items.
[0:32] >> Okay.
[0:33] Um at this point we call for any member
[0:36] of the public either in the room or
[0:38] online who wishes to make a comment or
[0:40] statement on any item not on tonight's
[0:43] agenda.
[0:44] >> There's nobody in the Zoom room.
[0:46] >> Okay, and I see no one
[0:49] here in the hall, so we'll close that
[0:51] item and move to the
[0:53] consent agenda. I don't believe there's
[0:55] any items on the consent agenda.
[0:57] >> Um
[0:59] there are some three minutes. Um yeah,
[1:01] there's the minutes of June 3rd, 2020.
[1:03] >> Oh, okay.
[1:06] >> I'm sorry, I'm looking at a a wrong
[1:08] agenda.
[1:08] >> Uh-oh.
[1:09] >> Um that was the consent agenda.
[1:14] » [clears throat]
[1:14] >> Yeah, there's minutes of May 4th and May
[1:17] 18th.
[1:21] » I can make a motion to approve that.
[1:25] » So moved.
[1:27] >> Chair Lindsey.
[1:28] >> Yes.
[1:28] >> Member Del Gavio. Member Sullivan.
[1:30] >> Yes.
[1:35] » Okay.
[1:36] Um
[1:39] Just checking. So, next
[1:41] item on the agenda is the nomination of
[1:43] chair and vice chair roles. You Can you
[1:46] give a summary of what was approved?
[1:48] >> Oh, sure. Yes. So, um
[1:50] as we discussed at a previous meeting
[1:53] that the
[1:55] handbook um indicates that a chair and
[1:58] vice chair shall serve for 2 years, but
[2:01] no more than 2 years in a 4-year period.
[2:04] Um, and
[2:06] at our previous discussion the AS RB
[2:09] all the members unanimously, all five
[2:11] members, um, indicated that they'd like
[2:14] to see Chair Lindsey continue as chair.
[2:16] And so, given that the handbook is
[2:18] something just just adopted by the town
[2:19] council by resolution, uh, staff brought
[2:22] this question to the town council for
[2:25] this particular instance, not ongoing.
[2:27] And so, in this particular instance, the
[2:29] town council uh, did allow for the
[2:32] current chair and the current vice
[2:33] chair, if they want to, um, to continue
[2:36] to serve for another 2-year term. Um,
[2:39] so,
[2:40] uh, if it is the case in which the board
[2:42] would like to nominate Chair Lindsey,
[2:44] um, they can do that and if there's an
[2:46] affirmative vote, he would serve for
[2:48] another 2-year term.
[2:49] And that could be the same for the vice
[2:50] chair, but my understanding is Vice
[2:52] Chair Comer does not want to continue as
[2:55] um, vice chair, so that would just open
[2:57] up nominations for that position.
[3:00] >> Um,
[3:02] >> He did and I think she's online today.
[3:03] >> Um, if she yeah, if she if she's
[3:05] interested and she's and
[3:07] she can definitely, uh, comment, I
[3:09] think.
[3:10] >> Uh, would I make the nomination then for
[3:12] Chair Lindsey?
[3:13] >> Yes, you can do that.
[3:15] >> I would like to make a nomination that
[3:16] Chair Lindsey continues to serve for the
[3:17] next 2-year term.
[3:19] >> I will second.
[3:20] >> Here.
[3:22] >> Uh, Chair Lindsey?
[3:24] >> Yes.
[3:25] >> [laughter]
[3:26] >> Member Del Gaudio?
[3:27] Member Sullivan?
[3:28] >> Yes.
[3:31] Okay, thank you.
[3:32] >> Um,
[3:33] >> I think.
[3:34] >> Do we have, is Vice Chair Comer online?
[3:37] Do you see her?
[3:37] >> Somebody named YD laptop is on.
[3:45] » We don't know.
[3:46] >> Yeah.
[3:46] >> It's not her name.
[3:48] >> I think she is going to be, I don't
[3:49] know, her family laptop.
[3:54] » Um in her absence, Sage, can we continue
[3:56] this item to the next meeting?
[3:59] >> Um you can.
[4:01] Um
[4:02] and that would just keep her as vice
[4:03] chair for the time being.
[4:05] >> Okay.
[4:06] I move that we do that.
[4:09] >> Second.
[4:10] >> Just to Just so we're all
[4:12] clear on expectations.
[4:14] >> Would you like a vote? Okay. Chair
[4:16] Lindsey.
[4:17] >> Yes.
[4:17] >> Member Del Gavio.
[4:19] Member Sullivan.
[4:20] >> Yes.
[4:22] >> Okay.
[4:23] Thank you.
[4:24] Um with that, we move to um the first
[4:28] item of the public hearing, 275 Jocelyn
[4:31] Lane.
[4:34] Look to Sarah for presentation.
[4:36] >> Um yes, thank you.
[4:39] >> [clears throat]
[4:40] >> Let load for a second.
[4:44] Okay.
[4:46] Um yes, thank you. I will be
[4:48] introducing the project at 275 Jocelyn
[4:51] Lane.
[4:52] The project includes the demolition of
[4:55] an existing single-family residence as
[4:58] well as accessory structures and
[4:59] swimming pool.
[5:01] And includes the construction of a new
[5:04] single-family main residence with a
[5:06] detached garage,
[5:08] a detached ADU,
[5:10] um a guest pavilion ADU, swimming pool,
[5:14] and other site improvements.
[5:17] The property is approximately 8 and 1/2
[5:19] acres and it's in the SCP-5
[5:23] zoning district.
[5:25] It's located off of Jocelyn Lane, which
[5:27] is a private road that extends off of
[5:30] Kings Mountain Road.
[5:32] Um as you can see, the site has several
[5:36] areas with 35% slope, so it's a um lots
[5:40] of um topography,
[5:43] um steep slopes on site.
[5:45] It is currently developed, as I
[5:48] mentioned with the single family
[5:49] residence and accessory structures,
[5:52] um all of which are proposed to be
[5:53] demolished.
[5:55] Um the
[5:57] proposed new main residence is kind of
[6:01] located in the same general location as
[6:03] the existing development, so it's this
[6:05] sort of
[6:07] um
[6:08] structure here that's the proposed main
[6:09] residence.
[6:11] So, kind of in the approximate center of
[6:14] the property.
[6:15] And then
[6:17] over [clears throat] here in this um
[6:18] area is the proposed ADU
[6:21] and a proposed garage
[6:24] / gym structure.
[6:27] And then kind of
[6:29] uh south of the main residence is a new
[6:33] guest house pavilion um ADU, so it is an
[6:36] ADU.
[6:37] As well as a new swimming pool.
[6:41] The existing driveway location onto the
[6:44] property will remain in the same
[6:46] location. It'll be modified slightly to
[6:49] um include new circulation as well as
[6:52] parking and a fire truck turnaround.
[6:54] That's that um piece right here.
[6:58] There are
[7:03] Um there are six significant trees
[7:06] proposed for removal
[7:08] in the project vicinity.
[7:13] And then let me just pull up some
[7:15] elevations.
[7:19] So, the main residence is a two-story
[7:23] structure
[7:24] uh with the height being about 26.9
[7:28] ft tall at the highest point.
[7:32] Uh the de- detached structures will all
[7:34] be less than the 17-ft maximum.
[7:37] And the materials for all of the
[7:39] structures include a mixed material
[7:41] palette.
[7:42] Um consisting of metal roofing, plaster
[7:46] siding,
[7:48] um with wood decks and wood panel
[7:50] siding, as well as terracotta tile
[7:52] siding.
[7:54] Um and the colors will be muted
[7:58] in shades of brown and beige.
[8:02] Um the applicant did not install story
[8:05] poles yet.
[8:07] Um but that kind of includes my
[8:09] introduction to the project and I'm
[8:10] happy to answer any questions.
[8:14] » Okay.
[8:15] Thank you, Sarah. Um does any member of
[8:17] the board have questions of staff
[8:19] regarding this
[8:21] proposal?
[8:25] Okay.
[8:28] Not until we heard the presentation.
[8:29] >> Okay.
[8:30] >> Yeah. All right. Thank you, Sarah.
[8:31] >> [clears throat]
[8:32] >> Um so with that we'll move to the
[8:33] applicant. If the applicant wishes to
[8:35] make a presentation, um
[8:37] please do so.
[8:39] >> Yes, we do. Uh my name is Peter Mason.
[8:41] I'm with Mason Architects. I'm serving
[8:43] as the local
[8:45] uh architect to assist the uh
[8:47] international architect of
[8:49] King Kengo Kuma, uh who's from Tokyo.
[8:53] And [snorts]
[8:54] um
[8:55] they I have here are uh Will
[8:59] Pritzker Pritzner
[9:01] >> That's right.
[9:03] >> Uh and Kyle Edwards Edwards Uh that are
[9:07] and Will Will, do you want to say
[9:08] something?
[9:09] >> I would love to.
[9:13] Hello, everybody.
[9:19] Hello, everyone. Uh once again, my name
[9:21] is Will Panzner.
[9:23] Um I am an ownership representative.
[9:26] And I was the one that was lucky enough
[9:29] to actually find this beautiful piece of
[9:31] land not too long ago. Um so with that
[9:34] said, I'm um
[9:36] super excited about this project. It
[9:38] really is an incredible
[9:40] lot.
[9:42] The natural beauty is is it was um
[9:45] It was incredible to see for the first
[9:47] time. And with that said, I'm very
[9:49] excited. We have a wonderful team here
[9:50] as well. And I would invite Kyle as well
[9:53] to come say hi to everybody.
[9:58] » Hi, I'm Kyle Edward. I've been retained
[10:00] by the owner as the construction
[10:02] manager. Um again, we're we're really
[10:05] excited about the project. If if you're
[10:06] familiar with architecture at all, Kengo
[10:08] Kuma is one of the best in the world.
[10:10] So, we all feel very fortunate to be a
[10:12] part of the project. And again, we're
[10:15] really excited to be a part of the
[10:16] community and make sure that we're
[10:18] conducting the construction operations
[10:20] as as smoothly as and
[10:23] um
[10:24] as less impactful as possible. So, um
[10:27] yeah, it's a it's a beautiful town.
[10:28] We're we're very familiar with side and
[10:31] yeah, excited to be here. And thank you
[10:33] for your time.
[10:34] >> Thanks.
[10:38] » Okay. Okay, I'm going to go through a
[10:40] little bit of the design a little bit
[10:42] for you.
[10:43] And there was some stuff in here that
[10:44] wasn't in the package that and I'm going
[10:47] to try and see if all that works right.
[10:49] Okay.
[10:51] Next, Shangri. Shangri from my office is
[10:54] running the thing. Okay, so this is the
[10:57] um
[10:58] This is the site itself. It sits
[11:00] um
[11:03] It sits at the very end of Jasmine Road.
[11:05] And as a result, it's it got a very
[11:08] private
[11:10] environment. But it's also a very
[11:12] constrained site. There's
[11:14] San Andreas fault here. There's another
[11:17] portion of the San Andreas down here.
[11:19] And there's a zone in here that's
[11:21] debatable.
[11:22] Um next.
[11:27] This
[11:30] Oh, sorry. You want to go back?
[11:34] Uh so, this is a vicinity map that shows
[11:36] kind of where the all the adjacent
[11:38] houses are.
[11:39] Um the road Jocelyn Road comes up here
[11:42] and goes up that way. This is a flag off
[11:44] of it. It has this house and this house
[11:46] over here.
[11:47] Uh this is a very steep area and I'll
[11:49] show you on the next slide what that's
[11:51] doing.
[11:52] Uh this is the San Andreas.
[11:54] Uh there's another piece of it down here
[11:57] and there's another piece of it
[11:57] potentially here.
[11:59] Uh so, it's a very constrained site. So,
[12:02] there's
[12:02] next slide, Shingri.
[12:05] This is the existing uh property, you
[12:07] know, in terms of what's there now.
[12:10] Uh the buildable area is really this
[12:13] zone and a little bit of stuff over
[12:14] here, but that's it on this entire 8 and
[12:17] 1/2 acre site.
[12:18] So, it's very constrained. There's a lot
[12:20] of 35% slope. Some of this is is
[12:23] man-made.
[12:24] Uh some of the This is where the current
[12:27] septic field is that we're going to be
[12:29] expanding a little bit and
[12:30] reconditioning.
[12:32] Next.
[12:34] The idea here is to really take
[12:36] advantage of the entire environment.
[12:38] This is kind of give you I idea of a
[12:40] glimpse of what's happening with the
[12:41] western hills. Uh the this the hills it
[12:45] I mean, the trees
[12:47] and this is the view that we're trying
[12:48] to capture as part of this of the house.
[12:52] While maintaining as much of the natural
[12:54] site in this kind of state as possible
[12:56] where and then forest.
[12:58] Next.
[13:00] These are some other
[13:02] um photos. I don't know what how many of
[13:04] you would actually gone up there, but
[13:06] this is the driveway that comes off of
[13:07] Jocelyn.
[13:08] There's a meadow off to this off to the
[13:10] right-hand side,
[13:12] which is where the um garage goes.
[13:14] And then there's another meadow over
[13:16] here on the left-hand side. And as you
[13:18] come out, then that's the that's the
[13:20] view out towards the western hills that
[13:23] we're trying to capture as part of the
[13:24] house.
[13:25] Next.
[13:28] The idea here is is really to create a
[13:30] very serene environment. Um this is a
[13:33] couple of this is one of um
[13:35] Kendra Kumos uh houses other houses. So
[13:40] this isn't what we're doing but it's
[13:41] something like something similar.
[13:43] Next.
[13:47] As Sarah was saying this is the proposed
[13:49] site. The main residence is here which
[13:51] is about where the pool is and the some
[13:53] of the accessory existing accessory
[13:55] structures are.
[13:57] The new pool is going here. There's a
[13:59] office slash guest room over here. And
[14:03] then the uh
[14:05] the garage. So we've we've added in a uh
[14:08] fire fire truck turnaround there.
[14:10] And then there's a wide courtyard like
[14:12] you saw in that previous uh photo where
[14:15] there's a uh
[14:17] low pool with natural environment. And
[14:19] there's a seven seven turn path that
[14:22] goes down to the pool. Which is a
[14:25] Japanese
[14:27] um
[14:28] concept. Landscape concept. Next.
[14:34] Coming up the driveway
[14:36] and be a turnoff going down here to the
[14:38] garage.
[14:39] And then this is where the guest house
[14:41] is the main residence.
[14:44] The main great room with the living area
[14:47] spaces. And the dining room and then the
[14:49] family portions here and the kids bed
[14:52] bedrooms above.
[14:53] Uh
[14:54] all are oriented out here towards the
[14:55] view. Same thing with the pool itself.
[14:59] Next.
[15:02] Just give you an idea of kind of what
[15:03] the roof how it fits in with the site.
[15:06] These existing trees are remaining.
[15:09] And
[15:11] will be enhanced to it create a real
[15:14] uh separation between the house and the
[15:16] road.
[15:19] Next.
[15:22] These are just some three-dimensional
[15:23] models of it.
[15:26] Next.
[15:30] So, there's a The idea here is there's
[15:32] the deep overhangs.
[15:33] Um this is a a view as you're coming up
[15:36] into the driving circle that looks out
[15:37] towards the western hills. And this is
[15:40] where the um porcelain
[15:45] not porcelain, but
[15:47] um
[15:50] Anyway, so there's outdoor areas all the way around
[15:52] it.
[15:53] Next.
[15:58] So, these are some of the natural
[15:59] materials we're looking at that are that
[16:01] are being looked at in terms of how it
[16:03] works. Um there's a ceramics
[16:05] uh
[16:06] screen is in various wings that are all
[16:09] being studied now. So, this is kind of
[16:11] an early
[16:13] uh study of it. Next.
[16:18] Again, that gives you an idea of how the um
[16:22] the vertical fins are protecting the
[16:25] house from
[16:26] view as well as out towards and the view
[16:29] out towards the hills.
[16:34] Yeah.
[16:38] Next.
[16:41] And then this is the small um
[16:43] small
[16:46] guest guest house over on the side.
[16:50] And the pool off to the This is actually
[16:52] been we're moving that's getting moved
[16:53] down about a couple two or three feet to
[16:55] open up the view even more.
[16:58] Next.
[17:02] That's from the pool looking back
[17:03] towards the house.
[17:06] And then you've seen the elevations.
[17:13] Everything's within All the buildings
[17:15] are within the within the code required
[17:17] heights.
[17:18] And
[17:19] uh
[17:20] TFAs.
[17:27] Two-story, but there's a There's a
[17:28] portion of the basement.
[17:30] Includes mechanical spaces and
[17:33] uh uh
[17:37] theater type space. Next.
[17:44] Landscape-wise, the whole idea here is
[17:46] to maintain as much of the existing
[17:48] Unfortunately, there's a couple trees
[17:49] we're having problems with in terms of
[17:51] how we fit within the within it. There's
[17:54] a tree out here that we're
[17:56] there's not much we can do about.
[17:58] There's a tree here that we're talking
[17:59] about how to whether move this back or
[18:03] uh adjust it so that there's a tree here
[18:05] and a tree here that we're trying to
[18:07] save.
[18:08] Uh but it's, you know, we're working
[18:10] with a with the arborist.
[18:12] The idea here is to add more trees
[18:16] upper and lower so that the landscape
[18:18] concept is based upon a a layered
[18:21] approach where there's low ground cover
[18:24] and grasses and that kind of stuff to
[18:26] medium-sized bushes to taller trees that
[18:29] fill in so that when you're coming up
[18:30] here, you're not going to you're not
[18:32] going to be seeing the house until you
[18:35] get clear up into here, which is the
[18:37] intent, which is to keep and maintain
[18:39] the privacy
[18:40] and, you know,
[18:43] create some create a unique retreat.
[18:45] Next.
[18:49] So, there's this is sort of the the idea
[18:52] of the layered approach where you're
[18:53] having low level
[18:54] and this is being refined. We have We're
[18:56] working with a the architect landscape
[18:58] architect to develop it further.
[19:00] And then the medium high
[19:03] shrubbery
[19:04] and then bigger stuff so that it's it's
[19:07] a layered it's a has creates a layering
[19:10] as you know, to create the buffer and to
[19:12] create privacy.
[19:15] Next.
[19:17] And then the trees itself.
[19:20] And do I have any questions?
[19:22] >> Thank you, Peter.
[19:24] Um
[19:25] a couple of questions. Uh Eric, could
[19:27] you go to sheet
[19:29] A1.1?
[19:34] This um trench
[19:37] that's going to be dug.
[19:39] If that reveals any sort of issues
[19:42] underlying [snorts] that area, as you
[19:43] said,
[19:44] potentially.
[19:46] >> [laughter]
[19:46] >> Uh it has been dug.
[19:48] >> that have?
[19:49] >> It has been dug.
[19:50] >> Okay.
[19:51] >> Uh they are working with the town
[19:53] engineer to define the um
[19:57] parameters of this of the uh zone,
[20:01] seismic zone.
[20:02] And um
[20:04] and then it'll be plotted by Leon Braze
[20:06] onto the site plan and we'll have that
[20:08] as part of the next discussion. And if
[20:10] we need to adjust something, we'll move
[20:11] it around.
[20:13] We we we think at this time that it
[20:15] doesn't affect doesn't affect the main
[20:17] residence at all. It may affect a little
[20:19] bit of some of this.
[20:21] But we don't think. And and if it does,
[20:23] we're we'll just do a garage over there.
[20:26] >> Are are we discussing the
[20:30] » We may we may do a like a four-car,
[20:31] five-car garage here and and work work
[20:35] around the other pro- programmatic
[20:38] items.
[20:40] >> Okay.
[20:41] >> Are the piles or the trees that are in
[20:43] question?
[20:45] >> Um yes.
[20:47] So this one's kind of this there's a
[20:48] redwood tree here that there's a whole
[20:50] bunch of redwood trees. They're all in
[20:52] varying states of
[20:54] uh
[20:55] surviving.
[20:56] They're surviving. How we don't know,
[20:58] but they are. Uh so this one's in the
[21:00] way to get the get the path get the entrance to work. There's one
[21:05] here that's, you know, not really
[21:07] significant and this one there's nothing
[21:09] we can do about. We just don't have We
[21:10] just don't have any room to do it move
[21:12] it. To do it and it's not movable.
[21:14] >> One of the cabinets is a possible
[21:16] >> So the Yeah, so there's this one here.
[21:18] So we're looking at what we can do to
[21:20] save that one. There's another one right
[21:21] here that we're working on. We're trying
[21:23] to keep both of those trees.
[21:25] But we don't know yet.
[21:27] We may or may not be successful.
[21:30] But we're planning enough trees to more
[21:31] than cover the
[21:35] » The wood fins and they are in front of
[21:37] the terracotta on the walls. Is that not
[21:39] a
[21:39] >> The what is?
[21:40] >> The wood fins
[21:41] >> No, the the There's the fins are going
[21:44] to be terracotta.
[21:50] Yeah, so it's it's kind of a
[21:53] very
[21:55] A little bit of old A little bit old
[21:56] coming into the new.
[21:59] » And is there standing water in some of
[22:01] those locations like
[22:02] >> Yeah, so the ponds The ponds in here are
[22:05] going to be They're going to all going
[22:06] to be, you know, 4 or 5 inches deep.
[22:09] >> Circulation or there's not
[22:11] >> Yeah, right. Right. Yeah.
[22:22] » Okay.
[22:23] >> Anything else?
[22:24] >> Um
[22:26] » If you can think of anything, let me
[22:28] know.
[22:28] >> Yeah, we So we I mean
[22:31] This direction This sort of style is not
[22:34] something we see a lot of.
[22:36] So my question to you is actually, you
[22:38] know,
[22:39] this warehouse were built in a similar
[22:42] rural community
[22:44] in Japan, would it be completely in
[22:46] place?
[22:48] >> Yes.
[22:49] >> Okay.
[22:49] >> Yeah, and I think it fits here, too. I
[22:51] think with the materials and the way
[22:53] it's cited, I think it fits very well in
[22:55] Woodside.
[22:57] >> And the challenge for us is not having
[22:58] full down materials that we need.
[23:00] >> Yeah. Well, that's what you're going to
[23:02] see next. That's what formal's for.
[23:04] >> Yep.
[23:05] >> So, we'll we'll give you a little bit
[23:06] more information on how we're doing that
[23:08] and
[23:09] we're working through how the structure
[23:10] works and how the all that all that
[23:12] works and
[23:13] what the glazing system does and
[23:15] what the seismic needs to do.
[23:19] >> Okay.
[23:20] >> Any other questions?
[23:21] >> No.
[23:27] » See the light.
[23:31] » It's a It's a placeholder for now.
[23:35] We know the rules.
[23:37] >> We like see the
[23:40] » So, so we'll have that we'll get we'll
[23:42] have detailed lighting plans. It's part
[23:44] of the
[23:46] >> Yeah, there wasn't um
[23:48] much lighting included. It's not
[23:50] required at this stage. Yeah.
[23:56] » Maybe.
[23:57] >> Doing better good.
[23:59] >> So,
[24:01] see it I'll try to sum it
[24:03] page.
[24:04] Um
[24:07] uh it is sort of a difference just in case there's anyone
[24:10] online so we just make sure if there's
[24:13] any public comment.
[24:17] Um
[24:19] it is somewhat a typical style for for
[24:21] us to review here in the town. I don't
[24:24] recall having
[24:26] um reviewed a similar
[24:29] design in the last few years. Um I think
[24:31] what
[24:32] it is extremely private site. So, that's
[24:35] working in your favor is that
[24:37] um no one can
[24:39] see it
[24:40] unless you're right upon it.
[24:42] Um what I like in particular is actually
[24:45] the choice of materials that we are
[24:46] seeing in the renderings. I think that's
[24:49] one of the things that
[24:50] brings it very much back in line with
[24:52] expectations of the town of Woodside to
[24:55] um be sensitive about choice of
[24:57] materials, natural materials, natural
[24:59] colorings.
[25:01] Um,
[25:03] privacy I think is
[25:06] pretty unique aspect of this property.
[25:09] Um, which I think in turn gives more
[25:11] flexibility in terms of the design
[25:14] direction and style choices. Um, I think
[25:17] it's particularly well done,
[25:18] particularly elegant. Um,
[25:21] and I like
[25:23] how all the aspects are
[25:26] organized.
[25:28] Um,
[25:29] obviously saving trees is something we
[25:31] always promote.
[25:32] Um,
[25:34] I did get a chance to visit the site and
[25:36] I think that that grove indicated by
[25:38] that bunch of red dots and
[25:40] cutting across the center, I think that
[25:42] preserving that is critical to this
[25:44] project.
[25:46] Um, I think there's I don't know exactly
[25:49] today where the existing drive goes
[25:51] relative to what's being drawn as new,
[25:54] especially that large
[25:55] tree marked for removal in the center
[25:57] just to the right of the
[26:01] trench.
[26:02] Um, I don't know where the existing
[26:03] drive goes relative to
[26:04] >> Existing drive comes up a little bit
[26:06] further. Our turnarounds are right about
[26:08] there. And the existing house is right
[26:11] about there.
[26:12] And the pool's over here. Yeah.
[26:16] » Yeah, so again, and the guidance would
[26:18] be anything that could be further
[26:20] refined in order to preserve more trees.
[26:22] We always encourage that.
[26:24] Um, I think for me that pretty much
[26:27] summarizes my feedback.
[26:31] Like to add to that?
[26:33] >> No, I think it's beautiful, it's
[26:34] interesting, unique. Um,
[26:36] certainly love the whole organic
[26:38] environment that you're trying to create
[26:39] there. I think, uh,
[26:41] again, as repeating, the trees are
[26:43] really important to us and I'm sure they
[26:45] will be to you and your client as well.
[26:47] So, anything that you could do to save,
[26:49] I'm also we're We're concerned about,
[26:51] uh, any kind of lighting, but I'm sure
[26:53] once again with this style of property
[26:55] most likely they're not going to want
[26:57] light it up very much either. So,
[27:00] I don't have any strong objections. I
[27:02] mean, it'd be great if we could see the
[27:04] materials, but if that comes next time
[27:06] round,
[27:07] out of our hands, we're cool.
[27:10] >> Would you want to see the project come
[27:12] back in formal?
[27:14] >> So, story poles have not been installed.
[27:16] Um so, uh in this in these instances,
[27:21] um there's two options the way you could
[27:22] look at it is one that they'll just come
[27:24] back for formal. They'll also they'll
[27:26] install story poles at that time. Also,
[27:28] give you the opportunity to look at the
[27:29] materials and lighting.
[27:31] Um if you prefer that staff completes a
[27:33] formal design review, uh then what's
[27:36] happened in the past is we've kind of
[27:37] continued the conceptual review, and it
[27:40] allows the and it allows the applicant
[27:42] to install story poles. We put the item
[27:44] on consent. If there's no further
[27:46] concerns based on the story poles at the
[27:48] conceptual level, then it could be
[27:51] passed to staff for formal design
[27:53] review. Um if you want to see more
[27:55] aspects of the project, it's probably
[27:57] just best to bring it back to the ASBR.
[28:01] » Yeah. So, that's that's what I would
[28:03] move that we
[28:05] uh approve conceptual,
[28:07] >> Mhm.
[28:08] >> and but have the project returned to the
[28:10] ASBR as part of formal.
[28:12] >> Sure. And so, what I've heard is that
[28:15] the commended the applicant
[28:17] for the design of the structure is
[28:19] unique, but is uh a good choice of
[28:21] materials and colors to blend in with
[28:24] the surrounding area. And that um in
[28:27] terms of recommendations,
[28:30] uh the ASBR is encouraging the applicant
[28:31] to try to save um some of the trees that
[28:34] are proposed for removal if possible,
[28:36] and also encouraging the applicant to
[28:39] provide minimal lighting that's around
[28:41] the
[28:42] uh development, and obviously would be
[28:44] downward facing and shielded.
[28:48] Anything else?
[28:49] >> Good. That's great.
[28:51] All right.
[28:53] >> So, the motion is to bring it back with
[28:55] those items
[28:57] to the ASBRB for formal design review.
[28:59] Is there a second?
[29:00] >> Second the motion.
[29:02] >> Chair Lindsey.
[29:02] >> Yes.
[29:03] >> Member Delgavi.
[29:04] Member Sullivan.
[29:05] >> Yes.
[29:08] » Okay.
[29:10] >> Great.
[29:10] >> You'll receive a letter in the next
[29:11] couple days.
[29:12] >> Great.
[29:13] Thank you very much.
[29:14] >> Thank you.
[29:15] It's going to be fun.
[29:17] >> Thanks, everyone.
[29:17] >> Thank you.
[29:18] >> Good to see you soon.
[29:21] That's the impression.
[29:21] >> Yes.
[29:22] >> Thank you.
[29:28] » All right. In terms of um director's
[29:29] reports, I mean you you have a
[29:31] director's report for May.
[29:33] Um and as we kind of always highlight
[29:34] with these things is looking at our
[29:36] housing numbers.
[29:37] We've also included a new pie chart um
[29:40] that actually uh identifies all of the
[29:44] residential housing permits that have
[29:46] been issued
[29:47] um
[29:48] for this arena cycle six for this
[29:50] housing element. Uh so, you'll see a
[29:52] total of 87 ADUs so far and 36
[29:55] single-family dwellings.
[29:57] Um so, that's all the way up to date
[29:59] through May.
[30:00] And then uh for the month of May, we
[30:03] didn't have any single-family dwelling
[30:05] permits issued and only two ADU permits.
[30:09] Um but, on the positive side,
[30:11] um when you add up the numbers at least
[30:13] for the ADUs, we are at 15 ADUs so far
[30:17] this year.
[30:18] Um so, you know, roughly halfway through
[30:20] the year, not even quite halfway. And if
[30:22] we were able to keep up this pace and
[30:24] hit 30 ADUs
[30:26] um this year, that would be great. That
[30:27] would be the highest we've ever had in
[30:29] several years, if not ever. Um so, we
[30:32] are seeing um
[30:33] more interest in ADUs as well as
[30:36] uh we're continuing to modify municipal
[30:40] code to make things more flexible.
[30:42] Um we just brought another ordinance to
[30:44] the planning commission last month and
[30:47] they have recommended approval. So, we
[30:48] will be bringing it to the next council
[30:50] meeting another ordinance updating ADU
[30:53] standards to provide more flexibility.
[30:55] Um
[30:55] >> [snorts]
[30:56] >> So, so the some of the highlights are,
[30:58] you know, for a second driveway
[30:59] exception that needs to serve an ADU, we
[31:01] can just deal with that at the staff
[31:03] level without having to go to the
[31:04] planning commission.
[31:06] Um there's uh
[31:08] a couple other little tweaks we've done
[31:10] really to clarify some of the stuff in
[31:12] terms of like how far eaves and
[31:14] overhangs for ADUs can go into the
[31:16] setback since the ADU is already in the
[31:19] setback. Um same with things like uh
[31:22] um we've already in practice we've
[31:24] already done this in terms of like uh
[31:26] HVAC units
[31:27] um you know, for ADUs, they have to be
[31:30] adjacent to the building. So, we're just
[31:32] clarifying and what we do in practice is
[31:34] that uh they can be next to the ADUs,
[31:36] they just can't be any closer than 4 ft
[31:38] the side or rear property line such as
[31:40] the ADU. So, um so, that's all I have to
[31:42] report at this time.
[31:46] » Graham, I'm going to be there.
[31:47] >> Yeah.
[31:48] >> Um question, as you see long-term trends
[31:52] as you compile these
[31:54] monthly.
[31:55] Um
[31:57] at what point do you
[32:00] feel that we are
[32:02] you know, over indexing on ADUs and at
[32:05] the detriment of fewer new single-family
[32:07] home permits?
[32:08] >> Um well, I just think I don't know if
[32:11] it's to the detriment of single-family
[32:13] dwellings, it's just a matter of
[32:15] you know,
[32:17] most properties are developed. Um you
[32:20] know, the the vacant properties have a
[32:22] lot of challenges
[32:24] uh and so, um so, really when we see new
[32:26] single-family dwellings, it's usually
[32:28] replacing an existing one. It's a kind
[32:30] of a larger project that most people may
[32:32] be not ready to undertake. Um whereas
[32:35] uh now that there's more flexibility for
[32:37] ADUs and we allow more ADUs and state
[32:39] law requires more ADUs on properties.
[32:43] Um, that's why we probably see a much
[32:45] higher uptick in ADUs than single-family
[32:48] dwellings. We do really hope to get more
[32:50] single-family dwellings. We need to hit
[32:51] those numbers.
[32:53] Um, we still are moving forward with
[32:55] looking at, you know, how to get the
[32:57] multi-family housing accomplished. Um,
[32:59] it's important that Woodside has varied
[33:01] types of housing, even if we are getting
[33:03] close to hitting our numbers. Um, so
[33:05] there's a couple different things that
[33:06] we have to look at.
[33:10] Um, it's being processed. They they have
[33:14] submitted for a uh, subdivision, so
[33:16] that's what we are processing.
[33:18] Uh, they don't have a specific proposal
[33:20] to actually do construction, but they
[33:23] propose one multi-family site and 10
[33:25] single-family residential sites um, as
[33:27] part of the roughly 9 acres
[33:30] um, that they have out there.
[33:32] And the multi-family the target in the
[33:34] housing element is for 16,
[33:37] um, although it is zoned for 20 units
[33:40] per acre and it would do it 1 acre, so
[33:43] they if they wanted to, they could make
[33:45] it a little bit more dense than what the
[33:46] target was for um, housing, but at this
[33:49] time we're just processing the cutting
[33:51] up of the land. And so if they chose to
[33:54] whether they choose to or a future owner
[33:56] chooses to do the kind of the
[33:58] construction aspect, uh, we would review
[34:00] those details at that time.
[34:04] Uh, they they are they've received their
[34:06] permit for their
[34:09] driveway/roadway. The reason I say it
[34:11] that way is the final map hasn't been
[34:13] technically recorded yet, but they are
[34:15] to
[34:16] uh, complete the construction of the
[34:17] roadway and um, so that is underway.
[34:20] >> They said that they're going to sell
[34:22] those lots, is that right?
[34:23] >> Um, they there's seven lots and whether
[34:27] they choose to develop them or sell them
[34:29] individually or sell them all to one
[34:31] person.
[34:33] That remains to be seen.
[34:35] My understanding at least from the
[34:36] applicant this time is that they are
[34:39] looking to sell them. They don't plan on
[34:40] developing them themselves.
[34:43] Yeah, yeah, yes. Yes.
[34:46] Yeah, whether it's one owner or not.
[34:48] Yes, they would come under separate
[34:50] permits.
[34:52] Good.
[34:53] >> Those numbers are already calculated
[34:55] basically seven
[34:56] >> No, those are cuz that's just cutting up
[34:59] the land. So, once they come in for
[35:02] permits, that's when we can we issue the
[35:04] permits, that's when we can count them.
[35:11] Okay,
[35:12] thank you, Sage.
[35:13] All right, with that I'll close the
[35:14] meeting at 5:05 p.m.