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Well, good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to the June 4,

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2025 council meeting. I, Mayor love it. And I'll be

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chairing this afternoon's meeting. Today's council meeting is. Being video

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live streamed and the video recording will be made available

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online at a later date. June is national indigenous history

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Month and Pride month. And yesterday I was pleased to

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raise both the pride flag and. Indigenous flag at our

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community flag poll and memorial park. This gesture is not

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only a symbol of solidarity and support for the two

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S LGBTQ plus community and indigenous peoples. But. It also

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serves as a reminder of our ongoing commitment to diversity,

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inclusion, and respect for all cultures. And identities in our

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town. Also, doors open. Richard Stoville is this Saturday, June

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7. This year there are 15 sites plus two bonus

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sites across town to visit experience, all at which Stoville

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has to offer for free. For a full list of

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the locations and to download your passport, please visit townofws

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ca. Doors open. I'd like to now call the meeting

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to order. First on our agenda was actually mayor for

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the day, but our mayor for the day is Lucas

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from St. Catherine Drexel. And at a field trip today.

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So we are deferring there for the day until our

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last meeting in June, which will be on the 18th,

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and I look forward to welcoming him then. The town

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Witcher Stoville acknowledges this land is the treaty territory of

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the Williams Treaty. First nations. It's also traditional territory of

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other Anishnabi peoples, the Wendat. And the hode Nishoni. We

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also recognize the contributions of all indigenous peoples to this

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place, and we commit to a continued dialogue and a

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greater respect for the land that we have come to

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share. Recognition of the contributions and historic importance of indigenous

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peoples must also clearly and overtly be connected to our

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collective commitment to make the promise and challenge of truth

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and reconciliation real in our community. Are there any declarations

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this afternoon? Seeing none. We have one set of minutes

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to adopt. Can I have a mover? And second? Or

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to adopt the minutes from May 21. Please move by

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Councilor Smith. Second by Councilor Sherman. Thank you. All those

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in favor? As carried. We have three recognitions today and

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I'll turn the floor over to our chief administrative officer

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Sonny Baines. Thank you, Mr. Mayor and members of council,

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it's my pleasure today to announce three awards. Received by

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staff. I will ask that we hold for pictures at

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the very end. We'll recognize each of the teams, and

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perhaps I can ask the teams to stand at the

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end of each description just for recognition, and then we'll

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take photos afterwards. So on Friday, April 11, Stacy and

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Iona attended the Life Saving Society's affiliate recognition awards along

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with senior Aquatic staff Regina and Eleana Stoville was the

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proud recipient of the 2024 Scarborough cup which awarded. Which

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we is awarded to the municipal affiliate with the largest

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life saving program in a community with a population between

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ten and 50,000. The commitment and energy required to get

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as many Stoville residences possible into the pool to learn

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a most important life skill is unmatched, and we could

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not be better served by our aquatic team. There is

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not a drop of water that Eddie and Iona don't

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maximize for our community. And the community services team is

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pleased to share this amazing success with you all. Please

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join me. In congratulating Stacey, Eddie, Iona and the entire

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Stoville aquatic team for this incredible achievement.

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I'm guessing the pool is still open, so the rest

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of the staff are occupied. The second award in 2024,

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the Witchurch Stoville Museum partnered with York Region to develop

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a special exhibit celebrating the 100th anniversary of the Orac

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Regional Forest. The historical exhibit traced the forest's evolution over

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the past century from a vital conservation effort to a

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treasured community resource in 2024. The exhibit welcomed over 5000

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vis. Visitors at the Witchchurch Stoveville Museum. We are proud

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to share that this project has been recognized with a

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2025 Gold Hermes Creative award in the custom category. Educational

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exhibit. It was a privilege for the museum to host

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the exhibit. Showcase the collection and collaborate with such a

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dedicated team. Congratulations. Congratulations to the staff at the Witcher

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Stoville Museum and York Region for their outstanding work and

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collaboration. On this important project. Congratulations to York region staff.

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Nicole Wells, Evangeline Lee, Aaron Thomas, Samantha. Shepard, James, McClellan

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and Coryogen and town staff. Sorry, I'm going to skip

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your last names. Shannon, Krista, Melissa, ohan, lauren and jess.

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If I could ask the team to. Stand for recognition,

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please. And the final award for today. We've spaced these

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out. There's a few more. Coming on the next council

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as well. But the Distinguished Budget Presentation award is the

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highest form of recognition in governmental budgeting. This esteemed award

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is granted by the government finance officers association and signifies

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a consider. Considerable accomplishment in public finance. It is presented

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to governmental entities that create budget documents of exceptional quality.

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Adhering to best practices in budgeting and transparency. I would

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like to congratulate our budget and financial planning division. Marina,

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Carol, Adriana, Cindy, Josie, Lauren, Jane, John, Dale and Joan.

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For their. Hard work, dedication, and expertise in creating a

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clear, comprehensive and transparent budget document. This recognition reflects the

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town's commitment to effective financial planning and accountability. Also, thanks

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to Glenn and the communications team, who assisted with putting

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the town's budget book together. And that concludes the descriptions

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of the awards. If I could ask the commissioners of

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each area. To join their teams for a photo opportunity

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with members of council. Thank you.

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Okay. Excuse me. On the presentations on our agenda. We

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have two presentations this afternoon. The first is from the

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Stoville. Youth Advisory Working group, and they're doing a presentation

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on the year in review. And I'd like to welcome

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Alina, Nakita and Tasha, who are members of our youth

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advisory group. Good afternoon, Mayor Lovett and members of council,

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welcome to the youth Advisory Working group year in review.

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My name is Alina Duramshi and I am a grade

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twelve student at Stoville. District secondary school. My name is

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Tasha Rogeretnam and I am also a student at Stoil

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district. Secondary school, grade eleven. My name is Nikita Kumar,

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and I'm a grade ten student at Milliken Mills. High

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school. As the official voice of the youth of Stoville.

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Our group has worked tirelessly to provide insight into events

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and initiatives concerning our demographic. The primary aim of our

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committee is to give the future of Stoville, the chance

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to feel like an integral part of our town and

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so we worked with town staff to learn more about

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what we can bring to the table for the future

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of. Stoveill. Here are the ten members of the 2024

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to 2025 Stoville Youth Advisory Working Group. We represent one

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elementary school and five high schools. Together, with our varying

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personalities and opinions, we have created events for our youth

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to feel engaged within our community, developing a collective sense

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of stoble. Pride. The group has worked diligently. Alongside town

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staff to support and deliver youth focused initiatives, including study

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nights, the Santa Claus Parade, movies at 19 on the

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park, a board game, cafe, youth Pilates class, youth week

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and Stoville's got talent in the fall. We are looking

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forward to partnering with 19 on the park to host

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a youth trivia night. Other ideas that we've discussed include

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a night market highlighting youth makers and specialty youth clubs.

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Such as drama club. Through our monthly meetings.

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Members have also had the opportunity to engage with staff

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from planning and development services. Communication, heritage events and theater

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operations, as well as councilor Sherban and Mayor Lovett.

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I had the opportunity to work with recreation services staff

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and our communications team to write an article. For May's

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edition of on the Road magazine. This article highlights the

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group's focus on leadership, civic engagement and advocacy, showcasing how

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yog. Empowered youth to make a meaningful impact, all while

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gaining insight into municipal operations. In partnership with Suso Skate

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Co. And with support from the Witchur Stoville Legacy Fund,

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the Youth Advisory Working Group, also referred to as Yog

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and Recreation services staff, are excited to. Present twelve evenings

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of free roller skating on the multipurpose trail at Memorial

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park beginning June 5 and ending on August 21. Each

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event will include one time slot open to all ages,

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followed by two sessions exclusively for youth. Participants are welcome

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to bring their own roller blades or scooters to participate

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in the fun. On behalf of the working group, we

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would like to thank all of the young members for

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their passion, dedication and leadership. Your voices, ideas and hard

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work continue to shape us stronger, more inclusive community for

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youth in stowwill. Your commitment to civic engagement and advocacy

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is inspiring, and we're proud of the impact that you're

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making. We appreciate you and all that you do. If

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you are interested in becoming a youth advisory working group

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member for the following school year, please visit our website

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to fill out an application form. Applications will open for

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grades seven to twelve in early September, and we would

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like to thank Mayor Lovett and the members of the

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council for your time today. Thank you, ladies. We really

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appreciate your presentation and all the work that you are

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doing. Questions for YOg members, councilor Sherban. Yeah. That's wonderful.

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Wonderful presentation, ladies. Good for you. Just a quick question.

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In your skating. Roller skating. Is it by registration or

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is it? Open just to the hours and anybody can

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come and intend. I'll answer that to me or love

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it to Councilor Sherband so the registrations for the. Specifically

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what people are registering for is to reserve their roller

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skates. Participation is welcome, anyone's. Welcome to participate. And they

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can use inline skates as well as the roller skates.

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They can. We've got a little bit of signage and

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there's some information on the website. On what's approved and

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what's not approved. So non marking skates and nothing. Electric,

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but scooters are welcome if they're not marking as well.

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Great. I've. Just had a lot of questions and the

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community is very excited, but they really weren't. Sure whether

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it was just open to everybody, so thanks for the

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clarification. Thank you. Thank you, Councilor Sherman, I'm too really

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excited that you're partnering. With Suso. When I was a

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kid. Living in Scarrow. Anyone go roller skating in your

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cedar Ray mall in Scarborough? The roller rink down there?

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Nobody here. Anyway, it was awesome. So I am super

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excited to get roller skates back on and hopefully we

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have a couple of members of council, actually, that were

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skating when it was ice. And didn't end out too

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well. I'm a roller skater. Who knew? I know. Play

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that 80s funk. Okay. Can I have a move, a

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second to receive the presentation, please? Move. By Councilor Sherman.

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Second by councilor Acton. All those in favor? That's carried.

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Ladies. Thank you so much. You don't have to stick

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around for the rest of the council meeting if you

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don't. Want to. All right, our next presentation is regarding

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additional residential units. And the presentation is by our senior

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development. Planner Randall Roth and Brandon Slope.

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Good afternoon, mayor. Members of the council staff and members

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of the public. My name is Brandon Slobach. And I'm

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here with Randall Roth. We're here representing development services today.

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We're here to give an overview of our report, looking

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at recommendations to enable additional residential units and other matters

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within. The green belt and Oak Ridge's moraine. On February

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4, 2025 development services. Received the above. Mayworld directive two

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one for Pero. Report to counsel. Outlining policy challenges. With

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respect to permissions for additional residential units, also known as

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Aries, within the green belt. In Oak Ridge's marine by

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the end of the second quarter and additionally provide a

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list of recommended changes to the Green belt and Oakrajit's

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marine conservation plan. To send the province for consideration. What

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is an aru? An aru is a second or third

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dwelling unit in addition to the principal dwelling unit. As

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shown in the graphic above. Aries often take the form

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of basement apartments, attached additions to existing homes and ancillary

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Aru is often known. Called tiny. Homes and garden suites.

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Within the fully service settlement area, properties have potential for

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up to two additional two Aru's in addition to the

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principal dwelling, this can take the form of two. Integrated

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Aru. So in the home or one integrated area and

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one ancillary area. As we will highlight in the following

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slides outside of the settlement areas, ar. Permissions are greatly

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limited or nonexistent. Birthday. In May of 2024, council adopted

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the new official plan. This document provides ARA permissions and

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conformity with the provincial plan. Shortly after, in June of

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2024, council approved the zoning bylaw amendment to produce zoning

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regulations. To actually implement the aries throughout the town and.

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This was, of course, in conformity with the planning act,

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provincial plans and official plan. The provincial policy statement is

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one of the key planning guidance documents. The most recent

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2024 iteration provided ARU permissions and associated precautionary measures. Notably,

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the PPS will now permit up to two ARu than

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prime agricultural areas and further. To this two ARU will

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be permitted in addition to any existing farm worker housing.

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To provide checks and balances. The following provisions and criteria

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have been put in place for Aru. One, they must

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comply with minimum distance formula. To be compatible with surrounding

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agricultural agricultural operations. Three have appropriate sewage and water services.

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Four, address any public health and safety concerns. Five, be

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limited in scale and ensure development is clustered to limit

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disturbance. Six. They must minimize the land being taken out

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of agricultural production. In addition to all these. The pps

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also put forward. A provision to prevent fracturing of land.

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So it very specifically states that severances of areas will

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be prohibited. On the left side. We discuss how the

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provincial plans interact and what this means really, for Stoville.

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Despite these new Aru permissions being in place, the reality

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is that the majority of earl Stoville will not be

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eligible for these above permissions. This is because most of

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the town's prime agricultural lands are located within the green

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belt. And Oak Ridge's marine plan, which are more restrictive

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and take precedence over the provincial policy. Statement. Good afternoon,

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mayor and members of council. The next few slides will

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outline the existing additional residential unit. Permissions within the two

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provincial plan areas, including the oak ridges marine Conservation plan,

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as well as the green belt plan. A summary of

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our staff recommendations and supporting rationale, as well as some

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other matters that the province should consider in their review

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and updates to the provincial plants. So, as Brandon indicated,

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although the provincial planning statement does permit up to two

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arus within prime agricultural areas. The ORMCP. And the green

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Bell plan are more restrictive and take precedence over the

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provincial planning statement and the municipal decisions must conform to

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these provincial plants. So this figure you see here illustrates

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the existing Aru. Permissions in accordance with these provincial plans

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within the Oak Ridges Marine Conservation area. Only one Aru

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may be permitted within a single detached dwelling within the

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countryside area. Shown in the lighter green here on this

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figure. And Naru is permitted only in an existing single

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detached dwellings. You're not permitted to have an ARU within

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a detached accessory building. Furthermore. An ARU is not permitted

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in the natural linkage or the natural core area designations

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as shown in the darker green, which does comprise the

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majority of the agricultural and rural lands within the town.

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And within the Green belt plan area in the northwest

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portion of the town. Only one Aru may be permitted

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in the protected countryside area designation provided that is located.

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Outside of the natural heritage system, which is the darker

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green area. And only one Aru is permitted within a

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single detached dwelling or within an existing accessory structure. For

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the agricultural lands that are located outside of the provincial

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plan areas. The southern portion of the town. The new

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torrential planning statement, permissions would apply. And up to two

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arus may be permitted. So these lands are shown in

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the red hatched. Here on the screen. I know. These

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lands have also been identified for settlementary expansion and future

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urban development. So, although the new pps broadened the permissions

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for additional residential units within the agricultural areas. The provincial

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plans are more restrictive and only permit one ArU within

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the countryside and protected. Countryside area designations. So staff's recommendations

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to the province for consideration are that up to two

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Aru may be permitted, and all of the ORMCP and

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Greenbell plan area designations, including the natural linkage and natural

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core area designations of the Oak Ridges Marine Conservation Plan.

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And within the natural heritage system of the Green belt

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plan, and only one aru may be permitted within an

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existing or a new accessory building in addition to the

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AR use that may be permitted within the primary dwelling.

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It is recommended that the province would establish development criteria

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in the provincial plans that are consistent with the new

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pps, as Brandon outlined. And the staff report in section

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3.5 also identifies some additional criteria for consideration to ensure

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the responsible stewardship of the natural environment. And these relate

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to any development within 120 meters of a key natural

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heritage feature or a key hydrologic feature would still require

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the approval of a natural heritage evaluation or a hydrologic

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evaluation. To demonstrate that there will be no adverse impacts

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on the features themselves or. Their functions, and they would

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be required to maintain a minimum 30 meters buffer from

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those features. The ARU could also be limited to an

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appropriate size and scale to limit their potential impacts. And

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also maintain the character of the rural area. The ARU

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should also be located within existing farm building clusters or

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existing disturbed areas and not result in the removal of

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any land from agricultural production. And lastly, the ARU should

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also utilize existing infrastructure such as wells and septic systems

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where feasible and demonstrate that there will be no impacts

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on the natural or hydrological features or functions. And lastly,

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our recommendation is that the ARU terminology and definitions in

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the provincial plans be updated. To be consistent with that

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of the new provincial planning statement. So in terms of

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our supporting planning rationale for these recommendations that are outlined

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in section 3.5, of the staff report. Essentially. In staff's

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view, the ARU permission should be consistent with the new

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provincial planning statement. For agricultural areas to be fair and

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consistent and provide equitable opportunity for the construction of Aru's

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within the agricultural areas. The ARU are inherently not different

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from the potential impacts of other low intensity type uses

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that are currently permitted within these provincial plans, such as

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farm health dwellings, bed and breakfast establishments. Home occupations or

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on farm diversified uses. The potential impacts of constructing ARu

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are also similar to permitting expansions to existing dwellings or

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the construction of a new accessory building or even renovations

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to a basement which could potentially accommodate an additional residential

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unit. Broader permissions for ARU would also contribute to the

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province's objectives. To develop much needed housing and provide opportunities

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for more affordable housing. That could accommodate multifamily housing aging

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in place for seniors or provide a secondary source of

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income. And just to reiterate, construction of AR use would

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be subject to the same development and environmental evaluations of

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other permitted uses, buildings, or structures to ensure that no

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adverse impacts to the natural features and also restrict the

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amount of land taking out of agricultural production. And as

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outlines section 3.6 of the staff report, Staff have also

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identified a number of other matters that the province should

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consider in reviewing and updating the provincial plants. In staff's

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view, the provincial plans are overly restrictive and do not

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provide sufficient flexibility to address local circumstances as well as

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town's planning objectives. So it is recommended that a process

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be established to consider minor amendments to the provincial plans

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and expand local decision making authority. A process should also

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be established to consider the redesignation of prime agricultural areas

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to rural areas. Particularly where these lands are not viable

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for agricultural production or they are already disturbed. Broader permissions

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are also recommended to permit small scale commercial, industrial, and

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institutional uses, as well as public service facilities and service

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parks within the countryside area, including both the rural area

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and the prime agricultural area in order. To provide greater

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flexibility to support rural economic development as well as the

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recreational needs of the town. And lastly, the province should

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provide greater clarity and guidance in considering settlement area expansions

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within the countryside area to provide for the logical expansion

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of settlement areas while balancing the provincial objectives related to

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developing complete communities, the efficient use of infrastructure and. Services,

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as well as protecting ecological features and functions. So in

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terms of next steps, staff is seeking council endorsement of

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the recommendations as outlined in the staff report. Staff would

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then submit the report to the province for consideration, requesting

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that the changes to the provincial plan Aru permissions. Be

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expedited to be more consistent with the new provincial planning

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statement. Staff is also recommending that the report be submitted

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to all other municipalities that are impacted by the provincial

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plans for information. And staff will continue to monitor the

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timing of the parental planned reviews for opportunities to comment,

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which is anticipated to commence prior to 2027. And that

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concludes our presentation. We'd be pleased to answer any questions.

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Thank you. Thank you. Brandon Randall, come to the dice.

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Any questions on the presentation? Councilor smith.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I just. Wanted to just note

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that there are some other speakers, and I was wondering

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if we could hold. My questions unless you want me

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to do them now. No. If you have questions on

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the presentation, we can deal with them now. And then

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the deputies. Can have their five minutes. Okay. I just

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noted, Brandon. That. In one part of the report, it

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says, minimize land taken out of agricultural production. And then

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I believe. The next speaker talked about not taking any

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land out of agricultural production, and I'm just wondering. If.

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We are going to bend the rule a little bit

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and let this happen. Through you, mayor. Love it. To

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Councilor Smith. We would ultimately need to take direction from

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the province as to. What their guidance and criteria would

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be. We would not want to take any land out

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of agricultural production, but really, it would all depend on

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the guidance that we ultimately received from the province. I

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appreciate that, but is your position. That. It will be

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our position that we would not take land out of

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agricultural production. Is that your position either between. Your. I

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would say the first position and every situation would be

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to not take agricultural lands out of thank you very

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much. That's what I was hoping that you had. Thank

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you. Thank you. Mr. Mayor. Okay. Thank you, Councilor Shervin.

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Yes, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Did we have a consultant

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help with this report. It was done by staff. Thank

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you. And this report that came forward from staff, how

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was it requested? Through mayor Levitty. Councilor Sherbat. We received

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it through a mayoral directive. Okay, thank you very much.

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Thank you. Councilor barley. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thanks for the presentation. I hope

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by the residents who are listening to that. If this

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gets endorsed by counsel. What kind of time frame are

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we looking at from the province? Through you. Mayor Lovett,

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the councilor. In a recommendation. We have just indicated that

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we would request the province to expedite the review of

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the provincial plans perhaps could be addressed through the current

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bill 17 which is before the legislature. Otherwise. It would

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likely come up again during the provincial plan review, which

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is anticipated to occur prior to 2027. The ten year

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review. Okay. Thank you. Any other comments? You're good. Just

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on the presentation? Yeah. The report will come after. Just

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because it was related to a slide that you posted

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about the directive. And also work to date on updated

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planning permissions for ARU. We adopted our official plan on.

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May 2024, which established permissions in accordance with provincial requirements

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for ARU's in the urban area, correct? And then proceeded

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with a follow up bylaw. I want to commend our

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development services team and our communications team, who did an

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exceptional job actually marketing. To the public and making sure

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that they were aware of the work that was being

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done on the official plan, but also on additional residential

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units. And so it shouldn't surprise us that we would

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get correspondence from members of the community. Some of which

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are here today to speak to this item. Who are

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outside the urban boundary seeking clarity and understanding. How and

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where and when, or can they actually. Do or build

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an Aru. So I have one such correspondence which was

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sent to me on January 23 and. It says it's

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wonderful to have a mayor willing to listen. I live

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at this address. In McAllen Road in Stoville. My understanding

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is the Ochre's marine act. Does not allow second dwelling

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on a property. I then asked about an addition that

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would allow our family members to live here and have

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their own space, and I was informed that I could

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do an addition, but it could not be a second

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residence. The house would have to remain one residence, as

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we know. Very well. As we know very well, affordable

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housing is a huge issue, and we're just not sure

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how we can help our family. I've been doing some

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reading, and I thought. There would be a new bill

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coming for second residences to be added to properties. I

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understand you. Have far more pressing issues trying to run

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our town, but I appreciate you be willing to. Look.

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So that was the impetus of this whole directive, which

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was issued on February the fourth and I want to

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be clear. The directive, which was published on our website

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on the same date and sent to all members of

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council who received a copy of it states very clearly

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that. Under the authority of part 6.1, special powers and

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duties of the head of council of the municipal act,

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the mayor may direct staff to a undertake research and

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provide advice to the head. Of council and city council

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on policies and programs of the city or of the

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head of council. As they relate to powers and duties

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under this part. MB carry out duties related to the

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exercise of the power or performance of this duty, including

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implementing any decisions made by the head of counsel under

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this part. Therefore, I hereby direct staff as follows. Prepare

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a report which we have before us today to counsel,

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outlining policy changes with respect. To permissions for additional residential

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units within the green. Melt at Ogres moraine by the

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end of Q two and provide a list of recommended

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changes to the green Belt act in Oakdridge Moraine conservation

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plan to send to the province for their consideration. I

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want to be very clear. No decision has been made

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by me or anyone. Else on this council. I do

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have the ability, as the members of council, to ask

474
00:38:09,573 --> 00:38:13,359
staff to actually bring a report to council. I did

475
00:38:13,359 --> 00:38:16,519
this under the mayor directive, which is why this is

476
00:38:16,519 --> 00:38:19,839
before us. And consider that this is an abuse of

477
00:38:19,839 --> 00:38:23,685
some sort of power to bring. A report forward, I

478
00:38:23,685 --> 00:38:28,410
think. Is actually. Very ill advised and incorrect. I was

479
00:38:28,410 --> 00:38:31,490
responding to the needs of our residents. I've had conversations

480
00:38:31,490 --> 00:38:33,770
with them many times. A number of residents, not just

481
00:38:33,770 --> 00:38:35,770
this one. I read out this email as to why

482
00:38:35,770 --> 00:38:37,770
we are here today. So I want to thank you

483
00:38:37,770 --> 00:38:42,290
for your presentation. I appreciate. Certainly the context and the

484
00:38:42,290 --> 00:38:44,690
fullness of the report that you brought for us. Thanks

485
00:38:44,690 --> 00:38:46,853
so much. Can I have a move in second or

486
00:38:46,853 --> 00:38:49,453
receive the presentation? Please move by Councilor Crun. Seconded by

487
00:38:49,453 --> 00:38:54,322
councilor Smith. All those in favor? Okay. There are seven

488
00:38:54,322 --> 00:38:57,002
deputations today. Please note that as of January 1, those

489
00:38:57,002 --> 00:38:59,242
wishing to speak to a staff report were required to

490
00:38:59,242 --> 00:39:02,362
submit a deputation request form by 09:00 a.m. on a

491
00:39:02,362 --> 00:39:06,872
council day. A deputation not listed on the agenda shall

492
00:39:06,872 --> 00:39:08,832
not be heard without the consent of at least two

493
00:39:08,832 --> 00:39:10,872
thirds of the majority of members present. I'd like to

494
00:39:10,872 --> 00:39:13,752
thank those who are coming forward today to address counsel

495
00:39:13,752 --> 00:39:15,952
regarding a report on the agenda. I would like to

496
00:39:15,952 --> 00:39:18,032
remind speakers that you have up to five minutes of

497
00:39:18,032 --> 00:39:21,272
uninterrupted time and only on the matter pertaining to the

498
00:39:21,272 --> 00:39:24,672
report item. I'd also like to remind council members to

499
00:39:24,672 --> 00:39:28,028
hold their. Questions until the speaker has concluded, as per

500
00:39:28,028 --> 00:39:30,908
the town's procedural bylaw, when addressing counsel the speaker shall

501
00:39:30,908 --> 00:39:33,508
be respectful of all persons and refrain from entering in

502
00:39:33,508 --> 00:39:37,028
across debate with members of council or town staff following

503
00:39:37,028 --> 00:39:39,908
the address, council members may ask questions and obtain additional

504
00:39:39,908 --> 00:39:42,668
information or seek clarification from the speaker, but shall not

505
00:39:42,668 --> 00:39:45,588
make statements to or enter into debate with the speak.

506
00:39:45,502 --> 00:39:50,272
Speaker. Deputations will be received for information. All deputations we

507
00:39:50,272 --> 00:39:54,312
heard before council moves. On to a consent agenda. Item

508
00:39:54,312 --> 00:39:59,312
first deputation is Dennis van Zevenbergen. He's the director of

509
00:39:59,312 --> 00:40:03,392
property environmental services for Park View, and Susan Pethick, who

510
00:40:03,392 --> 00:40:12,155
is a park View resident. Good afternoon, mayor. Love it.

511
00:40:22,708 --> 00:40:24,788
Sorry, just one sec. We've just got to get your

512
00:40:24,788 --> 00:40:25,308
microphone on.

513
00:40:39,557 --> 00:40:39,997
Just give us 1 second.

514
00:40:57,279 --> 00:41:02,667
Test. Do you want me to start over? Okay, so,

515
00:41:02,667 --> 00:41:05,747
good afternoon, mayor. Love it. Council members, my name is

516
00:41:05,747 --> 00:41:10,107
Dennis van Zebenbergen. I'm the director of property and environmental

517
00:41:10,107 --> 00:41:15,194
services. For Parfu services for seniors. I'm here today regarding

518
00:41:15,194 --> 00:41:21,793
the traffic light request for Perkv village north entrance. At

519
00:41:21,793 --> 00:41:26,273
the 9th line on February 10, 2025, a request was

520
00:41:26,273 --> 00:41:31,113
sent to Mayor Lovett from our CEO, Hamlet nation. We

521
00:41:31,113 --> 00:41:34,393
did receive response stating that traffic study was conducted in

522
00:41:34,393 --> 00:41:39,389
February 26, 2025 the. Study revealed that traffic light did

523
00:41:39,389 --> 00:41:43,716
not warrant. Was not warranted at this time. We do

524
00:41:43,716 --> 00:41:48,985
appreciate that timely response. This brings us to today's meeting

525
00:41:48,985 --> 00:41:52,185
where I'd like to introduce you to Susan. Pesick, a

526
00:41:52,185 --> 00:41:55,585
member of resident council and a resident of Perturb village.

527
00:41:58,241 --> 00:42:04,361
Good afternoon, mayor Lovett. Good afternoon, counselors and fellow residents.

528
00:42:04,361 --> 00:42:06,801
My name is Dennis, said as Susan Pathek, and I

529
00:42:06,801 --> 00:42:10,321
am a resident of Parkview Village, as I'm sure you're

530
00:42:10,321 --> 00:42:14,521
aware, Parkview village is located just south of Main street

531
00:42:14,521 --> 00:42:23,026
off 9th. Line. Parkview Village is living for seniors. It

532
00:42:23,026 --> 00:42:29,580
includes 189 units and 154 registered vehicles. I'm here on

533
00:42:29,580 --> 00:42:32,860
behalf of many of the residents who share a growing

534
00:42:32,860 --> 00:42:36,020
concern for our safety and well being. One of the

535
00:42:36,020 --> 00:42:39,540
reasons I moved to Park View was the walkability and

536
00:42:39,540 --> 00:42:43,651
the proximity to downtown. I thought I might be a

537
00:42:43,651 --> 00:42:46,891
little late getting to this meeting today because sometimes trying

538
00:42:46,891 --> 00:42:49,251
to turn left onto 9th line to come up to

539
00:42:49,251 --> 00:42:56,136
Main Street. Is a test. But here I am. I

540
00:42:56,136 --> 00:42:58,256
would like to speak today about the need for a

541
00:42:58,256 --> 00:43:01,616
traffic light at park U north entrance. And sunset Boulevard.

542
00:43:03,113 --> 00:43:05,273
This is not just a matter of convenience. It's a

543
00:43:05,273 --> 00:43:09,851
matter of public safety. Especially for the most vulnerable members

544
00:43:09,851 --> 00:43:14,331
of our community. When we talk about vulnerable, we talk

545
00:43:14,331 --> 00:43:18,731
about children. And seniors. And Stoville is doing an excellent

546
00:43:18,731 --> 00:43:22,571
job around the schools of making certain that things are

547
00:43:22,571 --> 00:43:25,651
safe for children, but I think that somehow we might

548
00:43:25,651 --> 00:43:28,721
have been overlooked a little bit. We. As seniors. When

549
00:43:28,721 --> 00:43:34,121
it comes to road and pedestrian safety, Stoville is growing.

550
00:43:34,121 --> 00:43:37,441
Wow. Has it ever grown. I moved back here in

551
00:43:37,441 --> 00:43:42,420
2001, having been away for 15 years. The population when

552
00:43:42,420 --> 00:43:47,500
I moved back was 49,800 people and currently is estimated

553
00:43:47,500 --> 00:43:51,700
to be 53,300. People. That's a lot of growth in

554
00:43:51,700 --> 00:43:56,189
a relatively short time. Some of that growth is senior

555
00:43:56,189 --> 00:44:00,829
friendly. We've seen new senior residences, care, residents and retirement

556
00:44:00,829 --> 00:44:09,306
communities. Unfortunately. Our road infrastructure has not necessarily. Kept up

557
00:44:09,306 --> 00:44:13,137
with a pace of people coming here. Crossings that lack

558
00:44:13,137 --> 00:44:17,857
proper traffic control, such as traffic lights, make it dangerous

559
00:44:17,857 --> 00:44:23,457
for seniors, particularly those who use canes, walkers or mobility

560
00:44:23,457 --> 00:44:26,217
devices, and people at Park View do go out and

561
00:44:26,217 --> 00:44:28,937
walk one of the residents I talked to last week

562
00:44:28,937 --> 00:44:32,825
walked to shoppers, which doesn't sound too bad. She's. 95.

563
00:44:34,073 --> 00:44:37,273
In addition, our community has seen an increase in local

564
00:44:37,273 --> 00:44:42,531
programming and events, many of which are possible. Due to

565
00:44:42,531 --> 00:44:46,651
partnership with staff and service providers who work tirelessly to

566
00:44:46,651 --> 00:44:50,971
improve the quality of life for seniors. There's an Alzheimer's

567
00:44:50,971 --> 00:44:54,920
program that runs at Parkview four days a. Week. Chat

568
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,560
services have an office as Park View as well. There

569
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,640
are over 200 staff members at Parkview and contractors coming

570
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,360
in and out daily, whether it's a wellness seminar, a

571
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,040
craft fair, or an outing to a nearby park. These

572
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,908
events mean more residents are on the move. And often

573
00:45:12,908 --> 00:45:18,720
crossing busy streets. Sunset Boulevard, traffic has also increased. Because

574
00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:22,160
of the increased traffic on Main street, people are cutting

575
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,480
down and using Sunset Boulevard as well. And so, consequently,

576
00:45:27,851 --> 00:45:30,531
That also increases the traffic north and southbound on 9th

577
00:45:30,531 --> 00:45:35,674
line. Construction traffic has also increased due to the ongoing

578
00:45:35,674 --> 00:45:39,794
building in the 9th Line Main street corridor. Each trip

579
00:45:39,794 --> 00:45:44,354
becomes a risk, not just an outing. I also want

580
00:45:44,354 --> 00:45:48,594
to mention this study that Dennis referenced. The temperature that

581
00:45:48,594 --> 00:45:54,437
day was -1 celcius. While we value the effort. I

582
00:45:54,437 --> 00:45:58,997
suggest, respectfully, that the timing of this study was not

583
00:45:58,997 --> 00:46:04,517
necessarily reflective of the activities of seniors. Seniors don't necessarily

584
00:46:04,517 --> 00:46:06,877
go out a whole lot in the coldest once of

585
00:46:06,877 --> 00:46:13,671
the winter. And snowbanks also inhibit. The ability to see

586
00:46:13,671 --> 00:46:17,820
traffic coming. As someone who lives here and sees all

587
00:46:17,820 --> 00:46:21,940
the daily routines, I can say with confidence that weekends

588
00:46:21,940 --> 00:46:25,780
and warmer days paint a much more accurate picture of

589
00:46:25,780 --> 00:46:31,107
foot traffic. And activity in the area. We're not asking

590
00:46:31,107 --> 00:46:35,267
for anything excessive. We're asking for safety that reflects the

591
00:46:35,267 --> 00:46:38,867
changing reality of our town and respects the lives and

592
00:46:38,867 --> 00:46:42,415
dignity of the people who live here. A traffic light

593
00:46:42,415 --> 00:46:47,331
at Parkview north and sunset. Would improve safety for pedestrians,

594
00:46:47,331 --> 00:46:52,051
particularly seniors and residents with mobility challenges. It would reduce

595
00:46:52,051 --> 00:46:55,451
the risk of traffic accidents in an increasingly libidity area.

596
00:46:57,168 --> 00:47:00,008
It would also facilitate the entry and exit of the

597
00:47:00,008 --> 00:47:04,669
buses, which run on a schedule. And have also faced

598
00:47:04,669 --> 00:47:09,373
challenges. It would support the safe and successful delivery of

599
00:47:09,373 --> 00:47:13,418
local events and senior. Act services and align with the

600
00:47:13,418 --> 00:47:19,227
town's vision of becoming more. Senior friendly. Can you wrap

601
00:47:19,227 --> 00:47:23,366
up, please, Susan? Pardon me? Can you wrap up? I'm

602
00:47:23,366 --> 00:47:26,543
at the bottom. Okay. Thank you. On behalf of myself

603
00:47:26,543 --> 00:47:30,463
and the other concerned residents, I respectfully request that this

604
00:47:30,463 --> 00:47:34,423
issue be added. To council's agenda for further review and

605
00:47:34,423 --> 00:47:39,103
action. Let's make sure there are infrastructure supports to people

606
00:47:39,103 --> 00:47:42,663
who live here. Thank you for your time, thank you

607
00:47:42,663 --> 00:47:46,522
for your service and thanks. For listening. Thank you so

608
00:47:46,522 --> 00:47:50,853
much for your deputation this afternoon. Any members of council

609
00:47:50,853 --> 00:47:55,971
have any questions or comments. Councilor Sherban. Thank you very

610
00:47:55,971 --> 00:47:59,493
much for taking the time and coming here today. I

611
00:47:59,493 --> 00:48:02,453
have to conclude, being Ward six, I've had a number

612
00:48:02,453 --> 00:48:07,853
of requests from Sunset Boulevard. With the same concern, getting

613
00:48:07,853 --> 00:48:10,853
in and out of that area so you're not alone

614
00:48:10,853 --> 00:48:13,413
and this is not the first time I've heard this,

615
00:48:13,413 --> 00:48:15,253
and I think we'll be more pleased to bring it

616
00:48:15,253 --> 00:48:18,293
back again and see how we can possibly best to

617
00:48:18,293 --> 00:48:21,454
address it. For our community and, of course, for the

618
00:48:21,454 --> 00:48:24,454
safety of you seniors. So thank you for coming. Thank

619
00:48:24,454 --> 00:48:29,875
you so much. Anyone else? Okay. I think it's probably

620
00:48:29,875 --> 00:48:33,409
best. To receive the deputation and refer it to staff

621
00:48:33,409 --> 00:48:37,448
for budget consideration during the budget process. And we can

622
00:48:37,448 --> 00:48:42,811
have that conversation. As we engage in the budget. Yes,

623
00:48:42,811 --> 00:48:47,332
commissioner. Yes, Mr. Mayor. I would like to just draw

624
00:48:47,332 --> 00:48:50,132
to council's attention that this portion of 9th line does

625
00:48:50,132 --> 00:48:55,019
fall in the region's jurisdiction, and so. Anything along the

626
00:48:55,019 --> 00:48:58,179
lines of a traffic study and or up to including

627
00:48:58,179 --> 00:49:01,739
signalization would be part of their budget and not ours.

628
00:49:03,121 --> 00:49:05,121
You're absolutely right. I'm sorry. I thought that we had

629
00:49:05,121 --> 00:49:07,801
been through that process. Already. Is that not the case?

630
00:49:07,801 --> 00:49:10,041
We have not talked to the region about this and

631
00:49:10,041 --> 00:49:14,485
they referred it back down to us. Well, my understanding

632
00:49:14,485 --> 00:49:17,685
from the deputy is that the region had undertaken a

633
00:49:17,685 --> 00:49:20,965
traffic study at this intersection. There is some question with

634
00:49:20,965 --> 00:49:24,090
respect to the time of year. And so there is

635
00:49:24,090 --> 00:49:31,771
some validity in a reconsideration. To have the region. Undertake

636
00:49:31,771 --> 00:49:35,969
the study once again. And so perhaps that can be

637
00:49:35,969 --> 00:49:39,009
the direction that council would like to provide. Okay, that

638
00:49:39,009 --> 00:49:41,929
sounds that. Sounds great. So we'll refer this back to

639
00:49:41,929 --> 00:49:44,289
your commission, and you can speak with Mr. Petrangaro up

640
00:49:44,289 --> 00:49:46,649
at the region and see if we can redo the

641
00:49:46,649 --> 00:49:49,419
traffic study. Okay, can I move her in second, or.

642
00:49:49,419 --> 00:49:51,259
Please? For that move by Councilor Sherman, a second. By

643
00:49:51,259 --> 00:49:57,009
councilor Bartley. All those in favor? As carried, okay? The

644
00:49:57,009 --> 00:50:03,329
next six deputies are all regarding report DS 2125. So

645
00:50:03,329 --> 00:50:06,489
we will hear all six deputies. And then move. And

646
00:50:06,489 --> 00:50:09,609
second, to receive those deputies. The first one is Mr.

647
00:50:09,609 --> 00:50:09,929
Robert Brown.

648
00:50:27,504 --> 00:50:29,424
Sorry. We have the same mic trouble as we had

649
00:50:29,424 --> 00:50:38,299
before. Sophisticated, then our. There we go.

650
00:50:40,858 --> 00:50:46,706
Good morning, folks. I'm Robert Brown. I'm here today with

651
00:50:46,706 --> 00:50:51,106
storm coalition, save the Oak Ridge's. Moraine, I participated in

652
00:50:51,106 --> 00:50:55,426
the public engagement that shaped the last consolidated review. And

653
00:50:55,426 --> 00:50:59,066
now, as the chair of storm. I'm working towards leading.

654
00:51:00,750 --> 00:51:03,070
The revision and development of a new marine report card,

655
00:51:03,070 --> 00:51:07,110
which reports on, like the ecological and hydrological conditions, current

656
00:51:07,110 --> 00:51:10,630
conditions of the marine, as well as an audit of

657
00:51:10,630 --> 00:51:13,350
land use planning changes that have happened over the past

658
00:51:13,350 --> 00:51:18,014
ten years. Well, I am here to respectfully urge counsel

659
00:51:18,014 --> 00:51:20,374
to reject the staff report. I want to begin. By

660
00:51:20,374 --> 00:51:28,477
acknowledging. The challenge you face, we understand. The differences. And

661
00:51:28,477 --> 00:51:34,911
difficulties merging the plans and. We also recognize the difficulty

662
00:51:34,911 --> 00:51:40,231
balancing housing demand, environmental responsibility, and the limited forms of

663
00:51:40,231 --> 00:51:44,692
housing that developers are on offer right now. That said,

664
00:51:44,692 --> 00:51:47,572
I believe that the report places counsel in illegally and

665
00:51:47,572 --> 00:51:54,073
proced. Procedural, precarious position. I believe to be frank. And

666
00:51:54,073 --> 00:51:56,553
while I've put in a more technical statement, I'm keeping

667
00:51:56,553 --> 00:52:01,842
this one fairly easy going. I believe that what we're

668
00:52:01,842 --> 00:52:07,264
offering here is a blank check to the province. Without

669
00:52:07,264 --> 00:52:10,184
a blank check to amend Ontario's most critical environmental land

670
00:52:10,184 --> 00:52:13,984
use plan without a formal process without scientific data and

671
00:52:13,984 --> 00:52:18,691
without public consultation. As of today, there has been no

672
00:52:18,691 --> 00:52:21,451
public launch of the ten year consolidated review. There is

673
00:52:21,451 --> 00:52:25,971
no publish consultation framework, no science advisory panel, no updated

674
00:52:25,971 --> 00:52:30,131
ecological or hydrological data. Despite this, the staff report encourages

675
00:52:30,131 --> 00:52:32,971
council to request sweeping amendments to these provincial plans through

676
00:52:32,971 --> 00:52:36,051
Bill 17, a mechanism that is not designed for plan

677
00:52:36,051 --> 00:52:39,614
review. Reviews and bypasses the evidence based transparence framework required

678
00:52:39,614 --> 00:52:44,020
by law. Counsel is being asked to endorse changes before

679
00:52:44,020 --> 00:52:47,860
public review begins. This is not just procedurally premature. I

680
00:52:47,860 --> 00:52:50,940
think it sets a dangerous precedent for adoption across other

681
00:52:50,940 --> 00:52:54,180
municipalities. I'm just going to briefly go over the points

682
00:52:54,180 --> 00:52:56,660
that I've expanded further in my larger report that we

683
00:52:56,660 --> 00:53:00,776
submitted this morning. We have obvious contradictions with the provincial

684
00:53:00,776 --> 00:53:05,296
plans, which your planners have noted, right. Permitted additional residential

685
00:53:05,296 --> 00:53:09,936
units in natural core and linkage areas, zones where residential

686
00:53:09,936 --> 00:53:15,259
development is prohibited under section 62.1. Allowing AR use the

687
00:53:15,259 --> 00:53:21,506
green belt natural heritage systems. Contrary to sections 311-1453. Reopening

688
00:53:21,506 --> 00:53:26,266
land use requests previously denied by the minister in 2002

689
00:53:26,266 --> 00:53:31,713
during York region's official plan. Approval and enabling municipalities to

690
00:53:31,713 --> 00:53:36,113
implement so called minor amendments, provincial plans in which practice

691
00:53:36,113 --> 00:53:39,033
would erode the authority of these plans through ad hoc,

692
00:53:39,033 --> 00:53:44,033
decentralized approvals. None of these proposals conform to the existing

693
00:53:44,033 --> 00:53:47,753
framework. They represent clear departures from the objectives, policies. And

694
00:53:47,753 --> 00:53:52,006
legal structure. Of the Oak Ridge Drain conservation Plan and

695
00:53:52,006 --> 00:53:54,806
the green belt plans. I believe that there's also a

696
00:53:54,806 --> 00:53:59,246
misrepresentation of land use designations in the report. The report

697
00:53:59,246 --> 00:54:03,126
further conflates prime agricultural areas with natural core and linkage

698
00:54:03,126 --> 00:54:06,566
areas, creating the false impression that the regulated uses of

699
00:54:06,566 --> 00:54:09,966
these areas are similar. In fact, these areas are governed

700
00:54:09,966 --> 00:54:14,439
by distinct ecological and legal policies. It also fails to

701
00:54:14,439 --> 00:54:18,279
distinguish rural settlement from designated settlement areas, a mistake previously

702
00:54:18,279 --> 00:54:21,837
found in provincial mapping. Errors tied to the 2002 green

703
00:54:21,837 --> 00:54:26,557
belt removal scandal. These lands use categories these land use

704
00:54:26,557 --> 00:54:29,837
categories carry different planning permissions and blurring them, I think,

705
00:54:29,837 --> 00:54:35,320
undermines the policy framework. The recommended development criteria I don't

706
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:39,400
believe are enforceable. The development criteria presented in the staff

707
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:43,280
report such as Aru size limits, setbacks and the disturbed

708
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:48,200
land are inadequate. Unenforceable in the current legislative climate. Under

709
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,080
bill 23, the conservation authority to comment the ability of

710
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,829
the conservation authority. To comment. Under natural heritage, wetlands and

711
00:54:54,829 --> 00:55:00,490
groundwater impacts have been drastically curtailed. Bill five well presented

712
00:55:00,490 --> 00:55:06,038
as a corrective entrenches municipal decision. Without resorting to expert

713
00:55:06,038 --> 00:55:10,311
review. So municipalities like yours now carry full responsibility for

714
00:55:10,311 --> 00:55:15,031
assessing development impacts on ecological systems without the resources or

715
00:55:15,031 --> 00:55:19,419
independent oversight. Required to evaluate the cumulative risks that are

716
00:55:19,419 --> 00:55:24,009
happening across the entirety of the marine. These criteria amount

717
00:55:24,009 --> 00:55:28,409
to a narrative justification that is not an enforceable safeguard.

718
00:55:28,409 --> 00:55:30,449
And I will remind you that the green belt plan?

719
00:55:31,639 --> 00:55:34,079
The Oakris Marine plan don't have something like the escarpment

720
00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:39,200
commission that oversees these. Flawless as a body. I fear.

721
00:55:42,767 --> 00:55:46,047
The report advances strategic denaturalization, and I believe this tenancy

722
00:55:46,047 --> 00:55:49,980
came from. A consultant report that was presented to Soville

723
00:55:49,980 --> 00:55:52,620
Council maybe 1015 years ago and has been adopted across

724
00:55:52,620 --> 00:55:57,289
other municipalities since. We are increasingly seeing a pattern where

725
00:55:57,289 --> 00:56:00,889
degraded natural lands are presented for redesignation based on their

726
00:56:00,889 --> 00:56:04,887
condition, not their ecological function. The staff reports, recommends to

727
00:56:04,887 --> 00:56:08,727
allow ARU's and core and linkage areas could incentivize further

728
00:56:08,727 --> 00:56:12,847
ecological degradation in order to make development more permissible over

729
00:56:12,847 --> 00:56:17,831
time. That undermines the restoration mandate of the ORMCP and

730
00:56:17,831 --> 00:56:20,951
contradicts the plant's. Ecosystem based approach, and I would stress

731
00:56:20,951 --> 00:56:23,351
that this is a part of the conservation plan that

732
00:56:23,351 --> 00:56:26,311
everyone likes to ignore that we are actually supposed to

733
00:56:26,311 --> 00:56:28,831
improve the areas that we're on. Not to grade them.

734
00:56:30,514 --> 00:56:34,034
Can you have up, sir? Thank you. I will wrap

735
00:56:34,034 --> 00:56:39,167
up with several quick ones here. I'm concerned. The report

736
00:56:39,167 --> 00:56:43,447
was initiated through Merrill directive strong mayor powers to expedite.

737
00:56:43,447 --> 00:56:48,385
Housing within serviced areas. And the directive appears to expand

738
00:56:48,385 --> 00:56:51,305
beyond its scope. Tasking staff to recommend changes to the

739
00:56:51,305 --> 00:56:54,185
green belt and OrMCP. I don't believe the strong mayor

740
00:56:54,185 --> 00:56:57,265
powers were able to be used to change environmental regulation.

741
00:56:58,664 --> 00:57:02,144
I'm concerned how the lake. Woods mzat o could play

742
00:57:02,144 --> 00:57:06,504
into this as well. I'm concerned that the ability to

743
00:57:06,504 --> 00:57:09,864
sever a lot and then add several residential units or

744
00:57:09,864 --> 00:57:13,504
ARU's on that. Site could create a situation for stealth

745
00:57:13,504 --> 00:57:20,703
development. Okay, sir. Thank you. Thank you. Any questions? Councilor

746
00:57:20,703 --> 00:57:25,871
Sherban. Yes. Thank you. First off, I guess I've heard.

747
00:57:27,881 --> 00:57:32,519
A lot of stories where people are saying that. Information

748
00:57:32,519 --> 00:57:35,599
coming out of your organization is saying that we are

749
00:57:35,599 --> 00:57:41,630
building subdivisions and not just looking at single units. Has

750
00:57:41,630 --> 00:57:46,604
that been communicated from your group? I have not. That

751
00:57:46,604 --> 00:57:50,684
you're applying to build subdivisions on the Oak Ridges. Marine.

752
00:57:50,684 --> 00:57:54,444
No, thank you. And your report that you just provided

753
00:57:54,444 --> 00:57:59,353
us on storm coalition. Who are the committees or who

754
00:57:59,353 --> 00:58:03,073
are the professionals who assist you? So we have registered

755
00:58:03,073 --> 00:58:06,673
land use. Planners that have been employed at, like, various

756
00:58:06,673 --> 00:58:10,857
universities in southern Ontario. As well as the conservation authorities,

757
00:58:10,857 --> 00:58:14,137
like the Toronto Region Conservation Authority. We have academics like

758
00:58:14,137 --> 00:58:18,593
myself that work in environmental policy and politics. I have

759
00:58:18,593 --> 00:58:21,873
hydrogeologists that work with us, and I have hydraulic and

760
00:58:21,873 --> 00:58:25,073
engineers that work with us. We now brought on staff

761
00:58:25,073 --> 00:58:29,273
that are ecologists and conservation focused. We are a small

762
00:58:29,273 --> 00:58:33,696
organization we're the ones that develop. The or put forward

763
00:58:33,696 --> 00:58:36,856
the creation of the Oak Ridges Marine Conservation Plan. And

764
00:58:36,856 --> 00:58:39,936
up until about 2018 we thought we had done our

765
00:58:39,936 --> 00:58:44,025
job and that we could retire. And after 2018, I've

766
00:58:44,025 --> 00:58:48,871
now been tasked to come on, rebuild the coalition. And

767
00:58:48,871 --> 00:58:51,871
to defend the moraine from what I would see as.

768
00:58:53,626 --> 00:58:58,186
A very problematic motion that's coming forward here. Okay. Thank

769
00:58:58,186 --> 00:59:02,066
you for the clarification. Because quite frankly, quite often we

770
00:59:02,066 --> 00:59:06,266
hear that these are just advocates for the environment, that

771
00:59:06,266 --> 00:59:10,026
they're not professionals with any sorts of sound degrees, so

772
00:59:10,026 --> 00:59:13,066
I appreciate the clarification. And if you could send that

773
00:59:13,066 --> 00:59:17,052
to me, I would. Appreciate it. Thank you. Your membership?

774
00:59:17,052 --> 00:59:19,932
Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, councilor. Any other

775
00:59:19,932 --> 00:59:28,577
comments? No. Okay, I've got a couple. Great presentation and

776
00:59:28,577 --> 00:59:33,469
thank you for coming. Your presentations are better. What you

777
00:59:33,469 --> 00:59:35,109
put are better than what you put on your social

778
00:59:35,109 --> 00:59:41,488
media. I think that. There's a few challenges that you

779
00:59:41,488 --> 00:59:45,208
are communicating widely to the public about this process that

780
00:59:45,208 --> 00:59:49,520
since you're here, I'm going to address. So you posted

781
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,760
something on your website a day ago. The green belt

782
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,928
scandal was never over. It just went local. In that

783
00:59:54,928 --> 00:59:57,768
you state that led by Mary Ian Levitt, who is

784
00:59:57,768 --> 01:00:02,208
using his strong mayor powers. To bypass regular council deliberation.

785
01:00:02,208 --> 01:00:05,608
The town is advancing a staff report that recommends opening

786
01:00:05,608 --> 01:00:09,688
protected oak, reduce marine and greenboat lands to residential intensification

787
01:00:09,688 --> 01:00:15,382
and fast track approvals. Can you explain to me? How

788
01:00:15,382 --> 01:00:21,340
we're bypassing council deliberations. Well, I would say that. There's

789
01:00:21,340 --> 01:00:24,620
a lot of people in various organizations, including myself, that

790
01:00:24,620 --> 01:00:27,900
feel that the strong mayor powers are undemocratic. We've seen

791
01:00:27,900 --> 01:00:31,700
how they've been used in Caladin. And elsewhere to serve

792
01:00:31,700 --> 01:00:35,060
developer interests. And I think the optics behind you using

793
01:00:35,060 --> 01:00:40,514
them in this particular case. Regardless of what the detention

794
01:00:40,514 --> 01:00:44,394
was before it or the motivations behind it, pose a

795
01:00:44,394 --> 01:00:47,354
lot of difficulty. And it makes me like, if it

796
01:00:47,354 --> 01:00:49,874
wasn't for the fact that I reached out, to a

797
01:00:49,874 --> 01:00:53,634
bunch of folks that live in this municipality that have

798
01:00:53,634 --> 01:00:57,796
lobbied you for other environmental issues. In the past. I

799
01:00:57,796 --> 01:01:01,408
don't know that I would have came in. So sympathetic

800
01:01:01,408 --> 01:01:04,128
if I just looked at what was on the page

801
01:01:04,128 --> 01:01:06,328
and what was in the report. Like it took a

802
01:01:06,328 --> 01:01:08,488
bit of research for me to dig into who you

803
01:01:08,488 --> 01:01:12,271
folks are a little. Bit. To, I guess. Come in

804
01:01:12,271 --> 01:01:18,231
here. And. Be as, I guess, open and even as

805
01:01:18,231 --> 01:01:24,758
I am. I appreciate that. Whether you choose to. Believe

806
01:01:24,758 --> 01:01:28,038
there was ill intent in the directive. I read the

807
01:01:28,038 --> 01:01:32,078
email from the resident that actually spurred on the directive

808
01:01:32,078 --> 01:01:35,587
to bring this report forward. That's up to you. I

809
01:01:35,587 --> 01:01:39,063
mean, you might believe this is all nefarious and. We're

810
01:01:39,063 --> 01:01:41,983
working for developers who want to crack open the moraine,

811
01:01:41,983 --> 01:01:45,303
and that is not the case, I can unequivocally tell

812
01:01:45,303 --> 01:01:49,292
you that. But it is troubling to me when you

813
01:01:49,292 --> 01:01:54,545
position. Me. As you have in your article that has

814
01:01:54,545 --> 01:01:58,265
been shared widely. The other thing is, and this is

815
01:01:58,265 --> 01:02:00,745
a question, actually, to our commissioner, because this is off

816
01:02:00,745 --> 01:02:04,825
of your Facebook post on Monday that I'm using strongmare

817
01:02:04,825 --> 01:02:08,705
powers, Mary and Lovett using strong. Mayor Powers has directed

818
01:02:08,705 --> 01:02:11,985
staff to support a planning proposal that would allow urban

819
01:02:11,985 --> 01:02:17,103
Spra. Sprawl, which I think urban sprawl is residential communities,

820
01:02:17,103 --> 01:02:20,423
subdivisions. So you said that. Actually wasn't the case, but

821
01:02:20,423 --> 01:02:24,950
this is a post where you're referencing residential sprawl. We're

822
01:02:24,950 --> 01:02:26,870
not going to argue about semantics, but I think it's

823
01:02:26,870 --> 01:02:29,350
important. I think. It is worth argued about. Semantics. No,

824
01:02:29,350 --> 01:02:32,451
we're not doing it here. I'm just saying. But I

825
01:02:32,451 --> 01:02:36,255
do want to ask our commissioner. Did I direct staff

826
01:02:36,255 --> 01:02:39,827
to support a planning proposal in this report? Through your

827
01:02:39,827 --> 01:02:43,467
worship. No, you have not. You've asked us to provide

828
01:02:43,467 --> 01:02:50,765
comments and recommendations to comments to the ministry. Okay. Thank

829
01:02:50,765 --> 01:02:54,498
you. And then further down in your post, asking people

830
01:02:54,498 --> 01:02:57,978
to come here, you demand that Mayor Lovett and counsel

831
01:02:57,978 --> 01:03:00,778
respect the integrity of the Orm and green belt plans.

832
01:03:00,778 --> 01:03:04,138
Ask them to stop using backdoor amendments and strong mere

833
01:03:04,138 --> 01:03:06,978
powers to undermine environmental protection. Can you explain to me

834
01:03:06,978 --> 01:03:11,247
how we're using backdoor amendments. I would suggest that the

835
01:03:11,247 --> 01:03:14,767
use or the proposed use of Bill 17 to expedite

836
01:03:14,767 --> 01:03:17,807
this process and to take it out of the consolidated

837
01:03:17,807 --> 01:03:21,487
review process that is supposed to be an open transparent

838
01:03:21,487 --> 01:03:27,047
process that's informed by organizations like yourself. Organizations like ourselves.

839
01:03:27,047 --> 01:03:31,323
Plus, that has been updated. With modern data sets that

840
01:03:31,323 --> 01:03:35,765
reflect. The current ecological hydrological conditions of the moraine because

841
01:03:35,765 --> 01:03:38,645
that hasn't happened yet. And what we're seeing across the

842
01:03:38,645 --> 01:03:42,965
marine is like a bunch of seriously concerning issues like

843
01:03:42,965 --> 01:03:46,365
the level of urban contaminants that are now going into

844
01:03:46,365 --> 01:03:49,965
our aquifers and that are holding there for long periods

845
01:03:49,965 --> 01:03:54,696
of time. Salt, for instance, 100 to 1000 years accumulating

846
01:03:54,696 --> 01:03:58,056
in the moraine in our watersheds. That are being used.

847
01:03:59,717 --> 01:04:02,557
To support our farmers that are used for this breadbasket

848
01:04:02,557 --> 01:04:06,450
that we have in the GTA. I would say that.

849
01:04:08,517 --> 01:04:12,477
's troubling to me, frankly. Okay, well, usually the term

850
01:04:12,477 --> 01:04:16,784
backdoor is. Used. Not in a public process like this.

851
01:04:19,183 --> 01:04:21,543
We're not hiding anything. I do connect you. One of

852
01:04:21,543 --> 01:04:23,783
our board has mentioned this as. Well, that I do

853
01:04:23,783 --> 01:04:26,463
commend you. And I had gotten to my thank you.

854
01:04:26,463 --> 01:04:30,322
I had said that. Thank you for your time and

855
01:04:30,322 --> 01:04:33,611
for placing this important. Matter on public record. So thank

856
01:04:33,611 --> 01:04:36,011
you for doing that. Yeah, you're welcome. I mean, we're

857
01:04:36,011 --> 01:04:39,091
not doing anything nefarious here. We're trying to address real

858
01:04:39,091 --> 01:04:43,691
life issues. That our residents are bringing to us, and

859
01:04:43,691 --> 01:04:47,211
I think our track record has been rather consistent and

860
01:04:47,211 --> 01:04:49,131
it has all been done in a transparent and open

861
01:04:49,131 --> 01:04:51,731
way. And I think if this report, if it passes.

862
01:04:52,874 --> 01:04:55,474
Will be submitted to the ministry to be part of

863
01:04:55,474 --> 01:04:58,554
the record for Bill 17 and the review process that

864
01:04:58,554 --> 01:05:02,114
will take place, hopefully before 2020. And I guess that's

865
01:05:02,114 --> 01:05:04,714
what concerns me, is that you're doing that before those

866
01:05:04,714 --> 01:05:08,912
data sets like. You're making a planning recommendation or a

867
01:05:08,912 --> 01:05:12,552
planning ask before data sets have been updated before. You're

868
01:05:12,552 --> 01:05:17,672
looking at current ecological and hydrological conditions that will dramatically

869
01:05:17,672 --> 01:05:21,688
affect how that process happens. So I really fear that

870
01:05:21,688 --> 01:05:23,408
the way that the province has worked in the past

871
01:05:23,408 --> 01:05:27,288
is that they create stages of legitimization for things that

872
01:05:27,288 --> 01:05:31,087
snowball and get out of control. And your endorsement of

873
01:05:31,087 --> 01:05:38,719
the. Motion from agile toso the Mzato this issue. The

874
01:05:38,719 --> 01:05:44,684
one last year from York. The redesignation. Of infrastructure services

875
01:05:44,684 --> 01:05:50,623
as infrastructure. I would say that there's a track record

876
01:05:50,623 --> 01:05:54,583
that could be argued otherwise. Well, listen, everything. We've done

877
01:05:54,583 --> 01:05:56,583
has been public, and I would invite you to come

878
01:05:56,583 --> 01:05:58,463
and sit down with me if you wanted a coffee.

879
01:05:59,817 --> 01:06:02,577
I'd love to explain to you the complications and complexities

880
01:06:02,577 --> 01:06:04,817
that our municipality has and. That our residents are dealing

881
01:06:04,817 --> 01:06:07,257
with and the fact that we have to deliver things

882
01:06:07,257 --> 01:06:11,657
like fire halls. And community centers and parks, and the

883
01:06:11,657 --> 01:06:15,857
regulations around our areas, unfortunately, are not allowing us to

884
01:06:15,857 --> 01:06:19,057
do such without asking these questions. And so I think.

885
01:06:20,029 --> 01:06:24,181
That's reach out to my. Forwardness today, I would ask.

886
01:06:30,383 --> 01:06:33,903
And that we work through this in a collaborative fashion

887
01:06:33,903 --> 01:06:39,075
because. I agree with you. We do need solutions. You're

888
01:06:39,075 --> 01:06:41,835
hemmed in on all sides, and I think we need

889
01:06:41,835 --> 01:06:45,115
to find solutions that work within the conservation plan, within

890
01:06:45,115 --> 01:06:49,726
the greenhouse plan, but also, we're still able. To. Address

891
01:06:49,726 --> 01:06:52,926
real concern that the community has. I would ask you

892
01:06:52,926 --> 01:06:56,206
to pause this process so we can do that collaboratively

893
01:06:56,206 --> 01:07:01,749
now. Before this. Okay. Thank you. I appreciate it. Sorry

894
01:07:01,749 --> 01:07:04,229
your mic went out there, but I think everybody heard

895
01:07:04,229 --> 01:07:08,019
you. In the room. Okay, the next deputy is Michelle

896
01:07:08,019 --> 01:07:12,006
Reeser. Michelle's running a little late. Fast. If you could

897
01:07:12,006 --> 01:07:20,491
postpone her a few minutes, okay? Sure. Kim emperor. Kim's

898
01:07:20,491 --> 01:07:29,546
online. Okay, great. Hi, kim. Hi. Can you hear me?

899
01:07:29,546 --> 01:07:37,918
Yes. Great. So thank you. For allowing us to present

900
01:07:37,918 --> 01:07:42,038
on behalf of the York Region Federation of Agriculture. We

901
01:07:42,038 --> 01:07:46,038
appreciate the opportunity to provide the comments on the additional

902
01:07:46,038 --> 01:07:53,170
residential units as requested. In your letter. Ar user are

903
01:07:53,170 --> 01:07:58,075
an important solution. To ease the housing crisis and are

904
01:07:58,075 --> 01:08:05,030
equally important in supporting multigenerational farm families. We agree to

905
01:08:05,030 --> 01:08:09,461
part one and part two of your motion. Although I

906
01:08:09,461 --> 01:08:17,153
think adding. A specific size for the small footprint. That

907
01:08:17,153 --> 01:08:22,633
is detailed in the criteria I think would be helpful

908
01:08:22,633 --> 01:08:32,041
to avoid. Continually having. To. Continually having.

909
01:08:34,135 --> 01:08:38,886
To defend. What a small scale. House for a new

910
01:08:38,886 --> 01:08:42,852
accessory building would be. On the Oak Ridge ridges. Marine.

911
01:08:44,341 --> 01:08:50,334
We do, however, strongly oppose. The requests that are outlined

912
01:08:50,334 --> 01:08:54,214
in part three. And I just wanted to note that

913
01:08:54,214 --> 01:08:57,694
the agenda when I filled out the form. I had

914
01:08:57,694 --> 01:09:01,655
a typo, so. It says e, but it should say

915
01:09:01,655 --> 01:09:05,175
part three, which it is clear in the letter that

916
01:09:05,175 --> 01:09:10,052
I submitted. So each of those items, we feel, would

917
01:09:10,052 --> 01:09:15,132
have significant detrimental effect on the agriculture in the municipality.

918
01:09:18,534 --> 01:09:22,054
York Region Federation of Agriculture is a nonprofit general farm

919
01:09:22,054 --> 01:09:29,029
organization representing over. 600 registered farm businesses. In York region.

920
01:09:29,029 --> 01:09:33,229
We are farmers working for farmers on issues, legislation and

921
01:09:33,229 --> 01:09:36,989
regulations affecting farms and in the region, as well as

922
01:09:36,989 --> 01:09:41,070
decisions that will affect agriculture into the future. We are

923
01:09:41,070 --> 01:09:45,791
passionate and dedicated to ensuring that. The agriculture sector and

924
01:09:45,791 --> 01:09:50,529
our rural communities. Are included, consulted and considered on any

925
01:09:50,529 --> 01:09:54,689
new and changing legislation that impacts the sustainability and the

926
01:09:54,689 --> 01:10:00,201
growth of the agriculture sector in the region. The Oakridges,

927
01:10:00,201 --> 01:10:05,721
moraine and the green belt are significant agriculture and environmental

928
01:10:05,721 --> 01:10:11,081
resources. They must remain intact and protect protected in their

929
01:10:11,081 --> 01:10:19,609
entirety for future generations. Allowing municipal amendments. Redesignation of prime

930
01:10:19,609 --> 01:10:27,530
agricultural areas. Small scale commercial, industrial, and institutional uses. Public

931
01:10:27,530 --> 01:10:31,621
service facilities and parks. Will result in the death of

932
01:10:31,621 --> 01:10:37,067
the Oak Ridges marine by 1000 cuts. Settlement area expansions

933
01:10:37,067 --> 01:10:41,941
will set up will speed up this demise. The yrfa.

934
01:10:43,856 --> 01:10:46,576
Would support the ARU on the Oak Ridge's marine and

935
01:10:46,576 --> 01:10:50,216
the Green belt, but not the list of requests that

936
01:10:50,216 --> 01:10:53,176
were found in part three of the motion. We thank

937
01:10:53,176 --> 01:10:57,376
you again for the opportunity to comment regarding the ARU

938
01:10:57,376 --> 01:11:01,536
request, and we look forward to working with you on

939
01:11:01,536 --> 01:11:05,315
this and other issues related to. Agriculture in the future.

940
01:11:05,315 --> 01:11:08,921
Thank you. Thank you. Kim, do you also want to.

941
01:11:08,921 --> 01:11:10,521
While we've got you, do you want to? Speak on

942
01:11:10,521 --> 01:11:14,876
the other item you want to debute on. Sure. Thank

943
01:11:14,876 --> 01:11:24,353
you. Thank you. So it is. Regarding. The stormwater.

944
01:11:26,163 --> 01:11:32,541
Fee. That is found. In the bylaw that establishes the

945
01:11:32,541 --> 01:11:38,317
rates and levies for the taxes for 2025. York Region

946
01:11:38,317 --> 01:11:42,437
Federation of Agriculture appreciates the opportunity to provide the comments

947
01:11:42,437 --> 01:11:48,275
on the stormwater fee. Sorry. As I said, repeating myself.

948
01:11:50,994 --> 01:11:55,219
In the property tax bill. This is the first time

949
01:11:55,219 --> 01:12:00,019
that rural residences will be charged this fee. We understand

950
01:12:00,019 --> 01:12:04,939
the importance of ensuring that stormwater infrastructure capital costs have

951
01:12:04,939 --> 01:12:11,156
long term funding structure. In place that is fair, equitable

952
01:12:11,156 --> 01:12:16,069
and easy to administer. The funding structure and the fee

953
01:12:16,069 --> 01:12:22,273
selected must also recognize. The stormwater mitigation contribution of farm

954
01:12:22,273 --> 01:12:26,829
properties. We are requesting deferral of the fee on the

955
01:12:26,829 --> 01:12:31,909
rural residences until a stormwater management. Fee study can be

956
01:12:31,909 --> 01:12:36,069
completed to ensure that the rate charged to farm residences

957
01:12:36,069 --> 01:12:41,656
is fair. Inequitable. Wirefa agrees that every member of the

958
01:12:41,656 --> 01:12:47,936
community should contribute to the infrastructure costs that are related

959
01:12:47,936 --> 01:12:53,216
to municipally owned facilities such as libraries, community centers, et

960
01:12:53,216 --> 01:12:58,852
cetera. To be fair and equitable. The funding approach must

961
01:12:58,852 --> 01:13:04,341
also be flexible enough to. Enable fee calculations that are

962
01:13:04,341 --> 01:13:10,554
related to stormwater infrastructure required for each property type. There

963
01:13:10,554 --> 01:13:14,034
are many factors that need to be considered when selecting

964
01:13:14,034 --> 01:13:20,875
stormwater rate. Appropriate to farmhouses. One of the simplest is

965
01:13:20,875 --> 01:13:26,584
that. Most urban properties have been engineered to slope towards.

966
01:13:28,203 --> 01:13:33,163
The stormwater drains, directing 100% of the runoff to stormwater

967
01:13:33,163 --> 01:13:38,883
systems, preventing flooding while the agriculture lands have not been

968
01:13:38,883 --> 01:13:43,480
engineered to slope to the roadside ditch. In fact, there

969
01:13:43,480 --> 01:13:49,172
are many agriculture properties with no slope. With a natural

970
01:13:49,172 --> 01:13:52,612
slope. Sorry. That does not drain off the property at

971
01:13:52,612 --> 01:13:57,532
all. The stormwater infrastructure. Costs related to urban and rural

972
01:13:57,532 --> 01:14:01,652
residences are very different, and the fee charged to the

973
01:14:01,652 --> 01:14:08,317
residences. Should reflect those differences as well. Thank you again

974
01:14:08,317 --> 01:14:11,917
for the opportunity to provide the comments regarding the stormwater

975
01:14:11,917 --> 01:14:15,637
fee, and we look forward to working with you on

976
01:14:15,637 --> 01:14:19,877
this and other agricultural matters. Thank you. Thank you so

977
01:14:19,877 --> 01:14:24,037
much. Kim. Any questions or comments on either of Kim's

978
01:14:24,037 --> 01:14:28,071
reput? Reputations, Councilor Croon. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And thanks,

979
01:14:28,071 --> 01:14:31,896
Kim. For your two deputations on these two important items.

980
01:14:31,896 --> 01:14:35,056
Neighbor. It's always good to see you representing the farming

981
01:14:35,056 --> 01:14:39,242
community. Not only in our town, but across. The region.

982
01:14:40,620 --> 01:14:46,427
I appreciate. Your concerns, and I agree. That any efforts

983
01:14:46,427 --> 01:14:49,307
that we can make to ensure that farming families continue

984
01:14:49,307 --> 01:14:51,787
to be able to live on their farms, especially when

985
01:14:51,787 --> 01:14:56,187
it's becoming more and more intergenerational operations and I think.

986
01:14:57,924 --> 01:15:02,227
There's this opportunity for Aru's expanded Ar use. We'll do

987
01:15:02,227 --> 01:15:11,635
exactly that. As we spoke. Your concern about. The industrialization

988
01:15:11,635 --> 01:15:19,112
and commercial activity. Specifically. In part three of the recommendation

989
01:15:19,112 --> 01:15:21,232
is something that we need to take harder look at,

990
01:15:21,232 --> 01:15:23,552
and I will be. At the appropriate time, I will

991
01:15:23,552 --> 01:15:28,694
be bringing a deferral of that portion of it. When

992
01:15:28,694 --> 01:15:32,494
council considers that as well, the stormwater issue, it is

993
01:15:32,494 --> 01:15:35,454
becoming more and more of a large issue, especially here

994
01:15:35,454 --> 01:15:38,334
in the urban area, and it needs to be addressed.

995
01:15:38,334 --> 01:15:41,574
But there are challenges. And concerns, as you say, out

996
01:15:41,574 --> 01:15:46,181
in the rural areas. And I think staff. Is very.

997
01:15:47,452 --> 01:15:49,972
Impatient to move forward with solutions in the urban area.

998
01:15:51,856 --> 01:15:55,856
But again, we were hoping to defer the implementation in

999
01:15:55,856 --> 01:16:01,590
the rural areas to protect. Farmers and. To consider. All

1000
01:16:01,590 --> 01:16:04,910
the special circumstances when it comes to soil water management

1001
01:16:04,910 --> 01:16:06,590
out in the rural areas. So again, thank you for

1002
01:16:06,590 --> 01:16:08,870
your presentation. Thank you for all the work you do.

1003
01:16:08,870 --> 01:16:10,950
And I know that every farmer in the town of

1004
01:16:10,950 --> 01:16:15,399
Richard Stovel and beyond the region. And across the province

1005
01:16:15,399 --> 01:16:17,919
that you work with. Appreciate your efforts. So again, thank

1006
01:16:17,919 --> 01:16:22,493
you. Thanks, Kim. Thank you. Thanks, Councilor Krun. Thanks so

1007
01:16:22,493 --> 01:16:28,571
much, Kim. No other questions. Okay, our next deputation is

1008
01:16:28,571 --> 01:16:36,868
from Jacqueline and Jody Allen. Good afternoon, mayor and counsel.

1009
01:16:36,868 --> 01:16:41,945
Nice to see you again. Mayor ian. Love it. We

1010
01:16:41,945 --> 01:16:44,025
would first like to thank you for having us today.

1011
01:16:45,421 --> 01:16:48,781
And addressing the need of an affordable housing option. Just

1012
01:16:48,781 --> 01:16:51,501
for a little introduction. My name is Jacqueline. This is

1013
01:16:51,501 --> 01:16:54,981
my sister, Jody. We are in the modular housing industry

1014
01:16:54,981 --> 01:16:59,427
and we are the Co owners. Of wholesale housing. We're

1015
01:16:59,427 --> 01:17:01,707
a local family run business and have been providing Canadians

1016
01:17:01,707 --> 01:17:05,774
the best deal in housing. For over 30 years. We

1017
01:17:05,774 --> 01:17:10,218
are in support of having. Responsible buildings without impacting farmland

1018
01:17:10,218 --> 01:17:14,698
or conservation areas. Our homes are quite unique. They're transported

1019
01:17:14,698 --> 01:17:19,138
on their own carrier systems, allowing them to be mobile.

1020
01:17:19,138 --> 01:17:24,218
Our homes can be relocated, resold, leaving little to no

1021
01:17:24,218 --> 01:17:27,338
footprint and can be as small as about 30ft long.

1022
01:17:28,286 --> 01:17:33,639
14 wide for 350 sqft. They need as little as

1023
01:17:33,639 --> 01:17:37,159
a packed gravel foundation, which avoids the need to dig

1024
01:17:37,159 --> 01:17:41,679
on these protective lands. Even off grid possibilities are an

1025
01:17:41,679 --> 01:17:46,074
option for our homeowners at their own expense. We've seen

1026
01:17:46,074 --> 01:17:50,314
firsthand over the years the demand grow for garden suites

1027
01:17:50,314 --> 01:17:53,394
and tiny homes. And are becoming our most in demand

1028
01:17:53,394 --> 01:17:58,034
product all across the province. We hear stories every day

1029
01:17:58,034 --> 01:18:01,314
from homeowners like Michelle Reeser, whom is participating in our

1030
01:18:01,314 --> 01:18:06,384
meeting today. Unfortunately, due to the current regulations, homeowners like

1031
01:18:06,384 --> 01:18:09,984
Michelle are now forced to save for a costly home

1032
01:18:09,984 --> 01:18:12,504
which is not the attendance of the province. When they

1033
01:18:12,504 --> 01:18:17,684
change regulations for a more affordable housing option. So some

1034
01:18:17,684 --> 01:18:19,684
of the examples of the needs we are seeing for

1035
01:18:19,684 --> 01:18:22,964
an aru are for farm. Workers, which would allow workers

1036
01:18:22,964 --> 01:18:26,564
to live on site, avoid transportation costs, and ultimately supporting

1037
01:18:26,564 --> 01:18:30,444
the canadian farmers housing for the elderly, which would grant

1038
01:18:30,444 --> 01:18:33,484
them their independence while being under supervision of loved ones.

1039
01:18:35,226 --> 01:18:37,866
Retirement homes have long wait lists, high costs and don't

1040
01:18:37,866 --> 01:18:40,986
offer the care a family member would provide, especially since

1041
01:18:40,986 --> 01:18:45,194
Covid, which magnified this matter. Our younger generation who are

1042
01:18:45,194 --> 01:18:50,663
already having difficulty. With unemployment. And can't afford to get

1043
01:18:50,663 --> 01:18:54,303
into Ontario's housing market, could afford an ARU and get

1044
01:18:54,303 --> 01:18:58,103
into home ownership. ARU can help with rental market. Homeowners

1045
01:18:58,103 --> 01:19:01,183
could utilize their vacant land and rent out an Aru,

1046
01:19:01,183 --> 01:19:04,343
helping to save a retirement, paying off mortgages or even

1047
01:19:04,343 --> 01:19:08,143
passive income. This, in turn, brings more affordable rental options

1048
01:19:08,143 --> 01:19:10,511
to citizens in need. Our. Homes are built to the

1049
01:19:10,511 --> 01:19:15,551
highest principal residential code, CSA 82777, an average less than

1050
01:19:15,551 --> 01:19:18,351
half the cost of site building. Our homes are built

1051
01:19:18,351 --> 01:19:22,348
inside a factory with dry materials and. Build time averages

1052
01:19:22,348 --> 01:19:25,508
about eight to 17 weeks. Our homes are likely the

1053
01:19:25,508 --> 01:19:29,068
most turned key product you'll find in Canada. Fully equipped

1054
01:19:29,068 --> 01:19:32,828
with full size kitchens, bathrooms, train, furnace, water heater and

1055
01:19:32,828 --> 01:19:36,080
much more. The number of families we have that walk

1056
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,800
through our doors on a regular basis that want to

1057
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,120
stay a part of stable community, but sadly had her

1058
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:44,640
being forced out due to the rising cost. Of living.

1059
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:46,080
We would love to see and be part of a

1060
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:49,160
movement like this to provide help. To the housing crisis

1061
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:53,080
Ontario faces. We believe it will increase population, support the

1062
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:57,172
elderly, the young. And promote affordable living, which Ontario is

1063
01:19:57,172 --> 01:19:59,572
so in desperately need of. Thank you again for having

1064
01:19:59,572 --> 01:20:02,667
us. Today. Thank you so much for your deputation. Any

1065
01:20:02,667 --> 01:20:10,092
questions from members of council? Councilor, Sherband. Hi. Thank you

1066
01:20:10,092 --> 01:20:12,172
very much for taking the time today to come and

1067
01:20:12,172 --> 01:20:17,858
speak to us. You are representing. A business that builds

1068
01:20:17,858 --> 01:20:23,542
tiny homes, is that correct? So. You're asking counsel to

1069
01:20:23,542 --> 01:20:29,836
support. ARu to build homes for. Obviously your business for

1070
01:20:29,836 --> 01:20:33,116
profit. I guess the concern I have with this and

1071
01:20:33,116 --> 01:20:37,659
the deputation that you're providing us today. The comments that

1072
01:20:37,659 --> 01:20:41,499
this allows them to be able to move up to

1073
01:20:41,499 --> 01:20:45,881
get into the market. This was not the intent of

1074
01:20:45,881 --> 01:20:49,787
Aru. From the report. And if it was, then I

1075
01:20:49,787 --> 01:20:55,794
miss read, unfortunately. This is a situation, and we're talking

1076
01:20:55,794 --> 01:20:59,794
about where we're looking for the Aru. You can do

1077
01:20:59,794 --> 01:21:03,034
ar youth, as you know, in all approved areas, but

1078
01:21:03,034 --> 01:21:06,972
in this particular area, I would suggest that you would

1079
01:21:06,972 --> 01:21:10,452
be best to actually look for the legislation of where

1080
01:21:10,452 --> 01:21:15,012
you can build instead of asking the community to provide

1081
01:21:15,012 --> 01:21:18,492
new legislation so that you can have those opportunities here.

1082
01:21:18,492 --> 01:21:22,092
In this community. I find that very difficult for us

1083
01:21:22,092 --> 01:21:27,370
to receive. And considering we did receive. Another letter from

1084
01:21:27,370 --> 01:21:31,530
another business that was asking and supporting the exact same

1085
01:21:31,530 --> 01:21:34,570
reason. I feel for the people who are asking you

1086
01:21:34,570 --> 01:21:38,850
to build those for them on their lots. I do

1087
01:21:38,850 --> 01:21:42,770
feel for that. But unfortunately, this is not a time

1088
01:21:42,770 --> 01:21:46,440
or place to be asking, in my opinion, for. This

1089
01:21:46,440 --> 01:21:50,200
town to put forward a report to us to build

1090
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:53,400
so the businesses can obviously flourish and I wish you

1091
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,603
all the success in the future. But at this point,

1092
01:21:57,898 --> 01:22:01,109
This deputation. I think is actually in the wrong place

1093
01:22:01,109 --> 01:22:05,254
in the wrong time. Thank you. Any other comments for

1094
01:22:05,254 --> 01:22:10,553
members of council? Seeing none. Thank you, Jacqueline and Jody,

1095
01:22:10,553 --> 01:22:16,290
I appreciate your time coming today. Thank you, mayor. Okay,

1096
01:22:16,290 --> 01:22:17,810
the next deputy is Michelle Johnson.

1097
01:22:35,551 --> 01:22:39,551
CAN you hear me? Welcome, Michelle. Thank you. Good afternoon,

1098
01:22:39,551 --> 01:22:43,431
mayor and members of council. I'm here to express my

1099
01:22:43,431 --> 01:22:49,298
support. For the recommendations outlined in the staff report. Ds.

1100
01:22:50,724 --> 01:22:57,542
02125, which proposes allowing additional residential units. In the green

1101
01:22:57,542 --> 01:23:02,382
belt and on Oak Ridge's moraine areas. As a resident

1102
01:23:02,382 --> 01:23:05,582
in these areas. I believe that this initiative will have

1103
01:23:05,582 --> 01:23:09,982
a positive impact on our community and provide valuable opportunities.

1104
01:23:09,982 --> 01:23:14,521
For affordable housing. Our family purchased land in this area

1105
01:23:14,521 --> 01:23:19,681
in 1997 prior to the implementation of the Oak Ridges

1106
01:23:19,681 --> 01:23:24,321
Marine act. The restrictions imposed by the act have significantly

1107
01:23:24,321 --> 01:23:27,721
limited our ability to utilize our property in a way

1108
01:23:27,721 --> 01:23:31,532
that would allow us to live affordably. The possibility of

1109
01:23:31,532 --> 01:23:35,252
building an ARU would enable us to provide a stable

1110
01:23:35,252 --> 01:23:38,892
and affordable living arrangements. For our children, who are currently

1111
01:23:38,892 --> 01:23:43,578
facing challenges in finding affordable housing in the GTA. An

1112
01:23:43,578 --> 01:23:47,298
ARU would not only provide a solution for our children,

1113
01:23:47,298 --> 01:23:50,818
but also offer a potential long term housing option for

1114
01:23:50,818 --> 01:23:54,258
our family as we age, the unit could serve as

1115
01:23:54,258 --> 01:23:58,058
a residence for us. Allowing us to maintain our independence

1116
01:23:58,058 --> 01:24:02,537
and stay connected to our community. Furthermore, the ARU could

1117
01:24:02,537 --> 01:24:06,377
generate income through rental opportunities, which would be beneficial in

1118
01:24:06,377 --> 01:24:11,131
our retirement years. It's important to note that Aru's are

1119
01:24:11,131 --> 01:24:14,651
not a form of major development. And do not have

1120
01:24:14,651 --> 01:24:18,851
a significant impact on the environment or community. Rather, they

1121
01:24:18,851 --> 01:24:22,611
offer a practical solutions for family like ours to utilize

1122
01:24:22,611 --> 01:24:27,891
their properties in ways that are both sustainable and responsible.

1123
01:24:27,891 --> 01:24:31,188
I urge you to consider. The benefits of allowing Aru's

1124
01:24:31,188 --> 01:24:34,308
in the green belt and Oak Ridge's moraine areas by

1125
01:24:34,308 --> 01:24:37,764
doing so. You'll be providing families like mine with the

1126
01:24:37,764 --> 01:24:42,599
opportunity to live on their land affordably. And sustainably. To

1127
01:24:42,599 --> 01:24:45,199
assume that we are out to damage the land. Please

1128
01:24:45,199 --> 01:24:49,454
first understand what we actually do. The last recorded trumpeter

1129
01:24:49,454 --> 01:24:54,334
swan in Ontario was in 1886. Trumpeter swans were at

1130
01:24:54,334 --> 01:24:58,934
that time considered extinct. Conservation efforts began in Ontario in

1131
01:24:58,934 --> 01:25:04,134
the 1980s by retired Minister of natural resource resources biologist

1132
01:25:04,134 --> 01:25:08,334
Harry Lumpston he attained eggs from the alaskan and rocky.

1133
01:25:08,555 --> 01:25:13,635
Mountain population and recruited landowners to host breeding pairs. My

1134
01:25:13,635 --> 01:25:16,995
pond was one of the five ponds that were used.

1135
01:25:16,995 --> 01:25:20,595
We fenced our pond and provided daily corn purchased through

1136
01:25:20,595 --> 01:25:25,821
our local co op. Roughly at $2,400 a month for

1137
01:25:25,821 --> 01:25:29,301
the sorry, $2,400 a year for the corn. To date,

1138
01:25:29,301 --> 01:25:36,131
that's over $60,000. Once considered critically injured. Sorry. One's considered

1139
01:25:36,131 --> 01:25:39,731
critically endangered in Ontario. They now have a flourishing population.

1140
01:25:41,292 --> 01:25:44,132
And are protected under the federal Migratory Bird Conservation Act.

1141
01:25:45,699 --> 01:25:48,499
Our palmed is the only available soft release pond for

1142
01:25:48,499 --> 01:25:52,499
the Toronto wildlife. And shades of hope. They bring us

1143
01:25:52,499 --> 01:25:56,459
injured swans that have finished emergency care but need protected

1144
01:25:56,459 --> 01:26:00,539
release to finish rehabilitation. They're free to leave when they're

1145
01:26:00,539 --> 01:26:04,238
able to fly away. In short, please don't assume that

1146
01:26:04,238 --> 01:26:07,158
we're out to destroy the land. We're actually doing our

1147
01:26:07,158 --> 01:26:10,198
part to protect it in the animals that we share

1148
01:26:10,198 --> 01:26:14,097
it with. When you see a swan flying in Stoville,

1149
01:26:14,097 --> 01:26:17,657
know that our town was crucial in their reintroduction in

1150
01:26:17,657 --> 01:26:22,920
Ontario. Thank you for your time and consideration. Michelle, thank

1151
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:26,903
you so much for your deputation. Any comments? Or questions.

1152
01:26:28,046 --> 01:26:33,525
Councilor Sherban. Thank you. Sorry. Thank you for your deputation.

1153
01:26:33,525 --> 01:26:36,485
I appreciate it. And I also hear what you're saying

1154
01:26:36,485 --> 01:26:42,100
and what you're asking. Two things that trigger for me

1155
01:26:42,100 --> 01:26:47,453
is that. First you talk about rental for income. So

1156
01:26:47,453 --> 01:26:51,213
it's obviously a longer term, and then once you're gone,

1157
01:26:51,213 --> 01:26:53,333
somebody else would. Be buying it and trying to sever

1158
01:26:53,333 --> 01:26:57,493
it into three properties. Therefore, now we've just created three

1159
01:26:57,493 --> 01:27:01,755
lots in the rural area. This is, I guess, the

1160
01:27:01,755 --> 01:27:08,925
concern I have. The debate I have with myself. If

1161
01:27:08,925 --> 01:27:10,725
I was in your shoes, I'd be doing the same

1162
01:27:10,725 --> 01:27:15,231
thing, so I respect that. But being on the decision

1163
01:27:15,231 --> 01:27:19,391
of the future of the community and for the future,

1164
01:27:19,391 --> 01:27:23,191
my seven grandchildren. The future of the environment and the

1165
01:27:23,191 --> 01:27:28,509
climate change that we're fighting. It seems so minuscule, what

1166
01:27:28,509 --> 01:27:32,898
you're asking. To ar youth. But if this keeps on.

1167
01:27:32,898 --> 01:27:37,378
One more aru. One more aru. It's. Opening that door

1168
01:27:37,378 --> 01:27:40,098
and where do we stop? And when we're in this

1169
01:27:40,098 --> 01:27:44,618
situation, they point fingers. Well, you gave it to, so

1170
01:27:44,618 --> 01:27:50,543
why don't I, right? And you're looking for two Aru.

1171
01:27:50,543 --> 01:27:56,127
Your family members having family. So just for two single

1172
01:27:56,127 --> 01:27:57,967
people, or are they for a family of two or

1173
01:27:57,967 --> 01:28:01,447
family of three? Which will be the next question. Not

1174
01:28:01,447 --> 01:28:03,327
for you to answer. But I'm saying that would come

1175
01:28:03,327 --> 01:28:08,414
to us. So. It's not that I don't empathize with

1176
01:28:08,414 --> 01:28:12,294
the rural community. And the endeavors of trying to help.

1177
01:28:14,123 --> 01:28:17,540
Their children. I also don't really see how the children

1178
01:28:17,540 --> 01:28:20,260
are going to get enough money to even leave there

1179
01:28:20,260 --> 01:28:23,180
to buy because I know my kids won't be in

1180
01:28:23,180 --> 01:28:27,069
that situation either. Because the affordability for homes is real.

1181
01:28:28,807 --> 01:28:31,767
But I don't think Ar yout are our solution to

1182
01:28:31,767 --> 01:28:38,865
the crisis. Density apartments and urban areas. Yes. But at

1183
01:28:38,865 --> 01:28:41,913
some time, somebody has to say no. And I don't

1184
01:28:41,913 --> 01:28:45,632
want to be in this seat. Someday when somebody says

1185
01:28:45,632 --> 01:28:49,620
that I started this and didn't help. So I appreciate

1186
01:28:49,620 --> 01:28:53,478
you coming. And if there was another way or some

1187
01:28:53,478 --> 01:28:57,628
other option that I could offer you, I would. But

1188
01:28:57,628 --> 01:29:01,108
I thank you for your comments. Thank you. You're welcome.

1189
01:29:02,958 --> 01:29:07,424
And for Dr. Trumpeter swan. Thank you, councilor. Any other

1190
01:29:07,424 --> 01:29:13,817
comments? Okay. Thank you so much for your deputation. Last

1191
01:29:13,817 --> 01:29:21,472
call for Michelle Reeser. Hi, Michelle. And he has sent

1192
01:29:21,472 --> 01:29:23,832
us a station to staff to read it into the

1193
01:29:23,832 --> 01:29:27,352
director, but she's. Unable to attend building which I can

1194
01:29:27,352 --> 01:29:30,899
present the execution. That would be fine, sir, if you

1195
01:29:30,899 --> 01:29:32,059
could just state your name when you come to the

1196
01:29:32,059 --> 01:29:32,859
microphone. Thank you.

1197
01:29:44,893 --> 01:29:54,696
A resident at 70 Lakeview Avenue. Mayor and

1198
01:29:54,696 --> 01:29:58,016
council thank you. First, thank you to town staff for

1199
01:29:58,016 --> 01:30:07,947
their support navigating the complexities of government mandates for. Home

1200
01:30:07,947 --> 01:30:13,827
affordability options for seniors coupled with aged conservation policies. Your

1201
01:30:13,827 --> 01:30:18,000
work is truly appreciated. I'm here to support option a

1202
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:22,330
within the report. Ds zero to one two five. Item

1203
01:30:22,330 --> 01:30:28,291
10.3. I was the first to attempt an application for

1204
01:30:28,291 --> 01:30:32,721
an additional dwelling unit. In Stoville, following the new provincial

1205
01:30:32,721 --> 01:30:38,347
rules. Unfortunately, we were denied the possibility. But through that

1206
01:30:38,347 --> 01:30:42,827
process, we learned a lot. On October 5, 2023. We

1207
01:30:42,827 --> 01:30:46,987
received the outcome of our pre consultation application and there

1208
01:30:46,987 --> 01:30:51,318
were no objections from York Region. Developmental services. Even though

1209
01:30:51,318 --> 01:30:56,318
we back onto a regional road. No objections from TRCA,

1210
01:30:56,318 --> 01:30:59,318
even though an area in our property is a part

1211
01:30:59,318 --> 01:31:03,878
of the Toronto Conservation area, and no objections from fire

1212
01:31:03,878 --> 01:31:10,894
and emergency services. Living in the Orm natural linkage area.

1213
01:31:10,894 --> 01:31:15,562
Designation is where. The stopped to this dream occurred and

1214
01:31:15,562 --> 01:31:19,442
the possibility of an additional dwelling unit for my husband.

1215
01:31:21,161 --> 01:31:25,926
And husband's grandparents occurred. The land we hope to build

1216
01:31:25,926 --> 01:31:29,806
on was just a mowed patch of grass about the

1217
01:31:29,806 --> 01:31:33,001
size of a couple of soccer fields. On the street

1218
01:31:33,001 --> 01:31:36,121
parallel and across the street from us, there are homes

1219
01:31:36,121 --> 01:31:41,121
located on equivalent plots. We have ample parking and proposed

1220
01:31:41,121 --> 01:31:46,121
and affordable prefab Adu to reduce impact to our neighbors.

1221
01:31:46,121 --> 01:31:51,444
While supporting a stable business. Due to current regulations with

1222
01:31:51,444 --> 01:31:55,124
Orm and green belt we are forced to save for

1223
01:31:55,124 --> 01:31:58,884
costly home addition, in hopes that we might later convert

1224
01:31:58,884 --> 01:32:02,117
it to a duplex. This is not the intent of

1225
01:32:02,117 --> 01:32:08,528
the regulation the province intended. When they change regulations. For

1226
01:32:08,528 --> 01:32:18,394
more affordable. I hope this helps with the

1227
01:32:18,394 --> 01:32:26,867
presentation. Thank you, sir. For. Bringing Miss Reese's comments to

1228
01:32:26,867 --> 01:32:29,507
us. I appreciate it, and we're not going to. Ask

1229
01:32:29,507 --> 01:32:33,496
you any questions because you're not Mrs. Reese. Thank you

1230
01:32:33,496 --> 01:32:36,752
so much. You're welcome. Okay, members of council, can I

1231
01:32:36,752 --> 01:32:39,272
have a mover and secondary to receive all the deputations.

1232
01:32:39,272 --> 01:32:42,472
Please move by councilor Croon. Second by councilor Sherband. All

1233
01:32:42,472 --> 01:32:47,624
those in favor receiving the deputations that's carried. Okay, we're

1234
01:32:47,624 --> 01:32:50,952
going to move on to our consent agenda. Members of

1235
01:32:50,952 --> 01:32:54,592
council. Like any items pulled off of our consent agenda,

1236
01:32:54,592 --> 01:33:00,346
items 9.1 through 9.9 we'll start with councilor update. Nothing,

1237
01:33:00,346 --> 01:33:07,839
Mr. Mayor. Thank you, Councilor Prune. Yes. Thank you, Mr.

1238
01:33:07,839 --> 01:33:15,818
Mayor. 9.3. 9.8 and 10.3. Okay, 10.3 is an action

1239
01:33:15,818 --> 01:33:21,301
item, so that's. No problem, council. Spence? None, Mr. Mayor,

1240
01:33:21,301 --> 01:33:25,221
other than, as my friend said, 10.3. Okay, thank you,

1241
01:33:25,221 --> 01:33:30,061
councilor. Bartley? None, your worship. Thank you. Councilor Acton? Nothing,

1242
01:33:30,061 --> 01:33:36,913
Mr. Mayor. Thank you. Thank you. And. Councilor Sherband. Sorry.

1243
01:33:41,364 --> 01:33:44,494
Ten point. Sorry, I just passed it. But what I

1244
01:33:44,494 --> 01:33:47,574
want to ask is that I would like to defer.

1245
01:33:47,574 --> 01:33:51,534
And I just want to ask Becky at this time,

1246
01:33:51,534 --> 01:33:54,414
the item that I pull, should I pull up, then

1247
01:33:54,414 --> 01:33:58,889
do the deferral. It's an action item. Okay, so this

1248
01:33:58,889 --> 01:34:02,329
is items 9.1 through 9.9. Okay, so. None. Thank you.

1249
01:34:02,329 --> 01:34:07,209
Okay. Sorry. No problem. Okay, so items 9.3 and 9.8

1250
01:34:07,209 --> 01:34:09,489
were pulled for separate discussions. So can I have a

1251
01:34:09,489 --> 01:34:12,889
mover in second or to move? All items not requiring

1252
01:34:12,889 --> 01:34:15,929
separate discussion. Moved by councilor Smith, second by councilor up.

1253
01:34:16,051 --> 01:34:17,561
Upton, we'll call the question.

1254
01:34:30,437 --> 01:34:33,383
No, we're going to push the button. Where's the button?

1255
01:34:46,355 --> 01:34:46,395
Three.

1256
01:35:11,137 --> 01:35:20,192
Everybody vote. Okay, those are carried okay. Onto our action

1257
01:35:20,192 --> 01:35:24,112
items. The first item is 10.1. I report. EPW nine

1258
01:35:24,112 --> 01:35:27,032
two five waste collection option for the downtown village business

1259
01:35:27,032 --> 01:35:31,251
area. And can I just get a mover and secondary

1260
01:35:31,251 --> 01:35:34,131
to get on the floor? Councilor, Sherband and councilor Bartley.

1261
01:35:34,131 --> 01:35:35,931
And councilor Sherband you want to speak to? A deferral

1262
01:35:35,931 --> 01:35:45,342
motion. Yes, thank you. Yes, thank you, Mr. Mayor. In

1263
01:35:45,342 --> 01:35:49,382
regards to this item coming on the agenda. It wasn't

1264
01:35:49,382 --> 01:35:54,694
widespread in the downtown village. Area. That this would be

1265
01:35:54,694 --> 01:35:57,734
on this agenda, and we would just like to provide

1266
01:35:57,734 --> 01:36:02,777
time. For the stove village advisory committee to have an

1267
01:36:02,777 --> 01:36:09,279
opportunity. To read over and to. Provide comments to council

1268
01:36:09,279 --> 01:36:12,159
in regards to the four options that were laid out

1269
01:36:12,159 --> 01:36:15,399
in this agenda. So with that. I'd like to defer

1270
01:36:15,399 --> 01:36:21,314
it until next meeting. Okay. Councilor Barley. You second the

1271
01:36:21,314 --> 01:36:22,554
motion to get on the floor. Are you good with

1272
01:36:22,554 --> 01:36:26,326
deferral? Yes. Okay, thank you. Any other members of council

1273
01:36:26,326 --> 01:36:30,302
wanting to speak to the deferral councilor? Croon. There was

1274
01:36:30,302 --> 01:36:32,262
a couple of questions I wanted to ask related to

1275
01:36:32,262 --> 01:36:38,608
this, but not in regards to. Commercial pickup. But somebody

1276
01:36:38,608 --> 01:36:40,608
would probably tell me. We're just talking about downtown, so

1277
01:36:40,608 --> 01:36:44,008
we're not. Good to. We wouldn't answer those questions. So

1278
01:36:44,008 --> 01:36:45,848
we're just dealing with the village. Area. Okay, so I

1279
01:36:45,848 --> 01:36:48,581
just wanted to make that point, so. I have no

1280
01:36:48,581 --> 01:36:52,181
question with the deferral. Okay, thank you. Any other comments

1281
01:36:52,181 --> 01:36:57,959
or questions on the deferral, madam Clerk? You're good. Okay.

1282
01:36:57,959 --> 01:37:06,877
Can we put the wording up, please? This will come

1283
01:37:06,877 --> 01:37:10,637
back at our next meeting, June 18. Okay, so it's

1284
01:37:10,637 --> 01:37:13,437
moved by councilor Sherbin and second by councilor Bartley. Follow

1285
01:37:13,437 --> 01:37:20,881
the question. Okay, that's.

1286
01:37:25,501 --> 01:37:27,341
Carried. Thank you for calling that forward, council. Shermanning is

1287
01:37:27,341 --> 01:37:31,295
more than reasonable. And the next item is 10.2, which

1288
01:37:31,295 --> 01:37:34,615
is CS four, two, five. Youth advisory working group. It's

1289
01:37:34,615 --> 01:37:37,972
just a motion to receive the presentation for information. Moved

1290
01:37:37,972 --> 01:37:42,485
by councilor Upton, second by councilor Smith. All the question.

1291
01:37:48,908 --> 01:37:56,940
Okay, that's. Carried. In item 10.3, DS 2125, additional residential

1292
01:37:56,940 --> 01:37:58,380
units. Can I move a second or to. Get on

1293
01:37:58,380 --> 01:38:00,860
the floor, please. Move by Councilor Sherband and second by

1294
01:38:00,860 --> 01:38:08,293
Councilor Bartley. Okay. And let's get a speaker's list. Councilor

1295
01:38:08,293 --> 01:38:10,893
Upton. Do you want to speak to the sitem? Are

1296
01:38:10,893 --> 01:38:15,985
you wanting to speak to. 10.3. No, I'm just getting

1297
01:38:15,985 --> 01:38:17,705
speakers list right now. You're wanting to speak to it?

1298
01:38:17,705 --> 01:38:26,662
Okay. Thank you. Councilor Kundas. Councilor Smith. Councilor. Partly councilor

1299
01:38:26,662 --> 01:38:33,412
Acton. Okay, we're all speaking to it. Perfect. Okay, so

1300
01:38:33,412 --> 01:38:42,380
let's start with councilor. Upton. Alphabetically. I just have a

1301
01:38:42,380 --> 01:38:45,189
few questions. We talked about this here and what we're

1302
01:38:45,189 --> 01:38:49,261
looking to do. I wonder why the problems did not

1303
01:38:49,261 --> 01:38:51,741
allow this to be in the natural linkage area or

1304
01:38:51,741 --> 01:38:55,685
the natural heritage system. Was there any logic with them

1305
01:38:55,685 --> 01:39:00,849
or any scientific reason? Through the chair if I can

1306
01:39:00,849 --> 01:39:07,724
ask. Randall, who is our policy expert, to come forward

1307
01:39:07,724 --> 01:39:10,724
because he's our provincial policy guy and he might be

1308
01:39:10,724 --> 01:39:14,228
able to provide some justification. As to the difference between.

1309
01:39:15,700 --> 01:39:17,900
Where the permission is and is not. With respect, that's

1310
01:39:17,900 --> 01:39:21,460
what you're asking for. Right what the justification is. Randall,

1311
01:39:21,460 --> 01:39:24,713
can you assist with that clarification? When they did these

1312
01:39:24,713 --> 01:39:30,873
reports. Through your worship. I'm not entirely certain what the

1313
01:39:30,873 --> 01:39:35,295
rationale was for not permitting. A second unit within. Other

1314
01:39:35,295 --> 01:39:39,335
designations within the marine is just specific to the countryside

1315
01:39:39,335 --> 01:39:45,978
area. However, since then, planning legislation has evolved substantially and

1316
01:39:45,978 --> 01:39:50,441
obviously. There's more recently been the introduction of additional residential

1317
01:39:50,441 --> 01:39:54,881
units, as we see in the new provincial planning statement.

1318
01:39:54,881 --> 01:39:57,961
I think it's a matter of these provincial plans kind

1319
01:39:57,961 --> 01:40:02,161
of catching up. To this new legislation and incorporating similar

1320
01:40:02,161 --> 01:40:08,605
permissions throughout. The agricultural and rural areas. You scrambled as

1321
01:40:08,605 --> 01:40:14,760
well? Sure. That doesn't exactly. That helps. You scrambled. Well,

1322
01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:20,557
thank you. Okay. We'll work on that later. Do we

1323
01:40:20,557 --> 01:40:25,136
have a specific size that they're allowed? The Aru that

1324
01:40:25,136 --> 01:40:30,240
footage by footage. Three year worship. No, we did make

1325
01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:35,851
recommendation. That they were giving us specific. That limit the

1326
01:40:35,851 --> 01:40:39,771
scale and location. Of the ARu on the site. But

1327
01:40:39,771 --> 01:40:44,342
not specifics? No, just general. Yes, and general law always

1328
01:40:44,342 --> 01:40:46,542
scares me when it comes to government. But planners like

1329
01:40:46,542 --> 01:40:50,902
to use the word, general. I'm wondering the impact of

1330
01:40:50,902 --> 01:40:52,782
this would have enough that we should have a public

1331
01:40:52,782 --> 01:40:55,542
meeting. On this, or is this not in the area

1332
01:40:55,542 --> 01:41:00,302
of a public meeting? Anybody will answer me.

1333
01:41:06,813 --> 01:41:11,493
Through your worship. We always welcome the opportunity for consultation,

1334
01:41:11,493 --> 01:41:17,017
if that's teamed by council, to be further. Needed. For

1335
01:41:17,017 --> 01:41:20,722
providing education. Of what were being requested and what our

1336
01:41:20,722 --> 01:41:24,442
recommendations are. Staff has no problem with providing that if

1337
01:41:24,442 --> 01:41:29,423
council wishes. Do you feel this is a subject? Or

1338
01:41:29,423 --> 01:41:33,383
dynamic enough or large enough to call for a public

1339
01:41:33,383 --> 01:41:43,305
meeting. I would hope that. Our public that are already

1340
01:41:43,305 --> 01:41:47,247
in a position for engagement have had the opportunity. To

1341
01:41:47,247 --> 01:41:53,380
report on this. Coming into today. So I would hope

1342
01:41:53,380 --> 01:41:56,620
that again, I would never say no to more, but

1343
01:41:56,620 --> 01:41:58,860
I would hope that. Those that are already feel that

1344
01:41:58,860 --> 01:42:02,821
they are affected by. This report would have had a

1345
01:42:02,821 --> 01:42:04,901
say in it already, so I'll leave it at that.

1346
01:42:04,901 --> 01:42:08,261
Yeah, okay. I appreciate that because it's just that we

1347
01:42:08,261 --> 01:42:11,341
have five or six, and there's. 55,000 people in town.

1348
01:42:13,227 --> 01:42:14,307
So I just worry that long. Kind of like a

1349
01:42:14,307 --> 01:42:18,181
development application. Pardon? Kind of like a development application. Yeah,

1350
01:42:18,181 --> 01:42:19,861
I kind of worried that a lot of them didn't.

1351
01:42:19,861 --> 01:42:24,915
Hear about it, but anyway. It's all interesting. I had

1352
01:42:24,915 --> 01:42:26,675
hoped to get a reason, but maybe we can work

1353
01:42:26,675 --> 01:42:31,406
on that. Why the province has not allowed these areas

1354
01:42:31,406 --> 01:42:37,665
to have. Aru and I appreciate when we hear. About

1355
01:42:37,665 --> 01:42:42,584
multiple generations or farm workers, but to me. This has

1356
01:42:42,584 --> 01:42:45,813
been for hundreds of years. And the farms have survived

1357
01:42:45,813 --> 01:42:48,493
very well. So it's not that all of a sudden.

1358
01:42:50,003 --> 01:42:51,923
We have multiple generations, so I don't know if those

1359
01:42:51,923 --> 01:42:55,276
are really good reasons for it. So with that. That's

1360
01:42:55,276 --> 01:42:59,618
my comments. Okay, councilor. Thank you. Think it's important to

1361
01:42:59,618 --> 01:43:07,395
note that. Before 2003. A second dwelling was allowed on

1362
01:43:07,395 --> 01:43:10,275
these lands, so it's only been in the last 22.

1363
01:43:10,275 --> 01:43:14,769
Years that there's been restrictions. Yeah. What? I'm just saying,

1364
01:43:14,769 --> 01:43:16,449
for hundreds of years, people have been able to build

1365
01:43:16,449 --> 01:43:24,680
more. Than one home on their property. Councilor Croon. Thank

1366
01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:29,836
you, Mr. Mayor. As the counselor who represents the vast

1367
01:43:29,836 --> 01:43:32,996
majority of the rural areas in municipality. This is a

1368
01:43:32,996 --> 01:43:35,516
very important issue to me because it's a very important

1369
01:43:35,516 --> 01:43:37,836
issue to my residence as the mayor. Has just noted

1370
01:43:37,836 --> 01:43:41,295
now that 22 years ago. A lot of the things.

1371
01:43:42,711 --> 01:43:49,966
That. The tractors of this particular initiative, imagine actually happened

1372
01:43:49,966 --> 01:43:52,686
that multiple units on these properties was allowed as a

1373
01:43:52,686 --> 01:43:58,850
matter of fact, lot divisions was allowed. If not. Encouraged.

1374
01:43:58,850 --> 01:44:00,930
That has kind of come to an end and we

1375
01:44:00,930 --> 01:44:05,465
are left with the situation. We're in right now. Where

1376
01:44:05,465 --> 01:44:09,025
large parcels of property and, in many cases, large homes.

1377
01:44:10,567 --> 01:44:15,454
Are limited to. A single family. I think that our

1378
01:44:15,454 --> 01:44:19,614
staff and perhaps the fire chief can attest to that.

1379
01:44:19,614 --> 01:44:24,029
There are more. Than enough. Arus, which are not currently

1380
01:44:24,029 --> 01:44:31,592
permitted in the municipality. I have direct knowledge of. Several.

1381
01:44:31,592 --> 01:44:35,731
Dozens. Of multiple units within single family homes which are

1382
01:44:35,731 --> 01:44:38,611
currently operating in the town to our knowledge or to

1383
01:44:38,611 --> 01:44:42,811
an honor, knowledge. And it's a challenge for us because

1384
01:44:42,811 --> 01:44:44,811
folks don't want those things inspected. And I know that

1385
01:44:44,811 --> 01:44:47,851
that makes the chief and his staff very nervous, that

1386
01:44:47,851 --> 01:44:54,728
the proper building. Guidelines, ingress and egress. Concerns are not

1387
01:44:54,728 --> 01:44:58,208
dealt with, and no one wants a tragedy to happen.

1388
01:44:58,208 --> 01:45:02,650
And if we were to approve this. This may legitimize

1389
01:45:02,650 --> 01:45:04,290
some of these things, and people will bring them forward.

1390
01:45:05,719 --> 01:45:08,679
To ensure that they and their tenants or family members

1391
01:45:08,679 --> 01:45:12,843
are being kept safe. From a personal perspective, I live

1392
01:45:12,843 --> 01:45:19,124
in a 140 year old. Farmhouse. That my children have

1393
01:45:19,124 --> 01:45:21,124
abandoned me and for my wife and I, it's probably

1394
01:45:21,124 --> 01:45:23,524
a little too big. But our dream is that some

1395
01:45:23,524 --> 01:45:25,684
I'm being planned. I plan on being carried. Out of

1396
01:45:25,684 --> 01:45:28,164
there in a box. But somewhere in the future that

1397
01:45:28,164 --> 01:45:31,124
perhaps one of my daughters would move back in and

1398
01:45:31,124 --> 01:45:34,465
we would have an opportunity to stay there. But in

1399
01:45:34,465 --> 01:45:38,787
a separate apartment, but currently. This is not allowed. And

1400
01:45:38,787 --> 01:45:43,929
when we spoke about intergenerational and this is. For many

1401
01:45:43,929 --> 01:45:46,329
people in many cultures that this is an important part

1402
01:45:46,329 --> 01:45:50,522
of. Not only the end of life, be taken care

1403
01:45:50,522 --> 01:45:54,002
of your elderly parents, but to give your children a

1404
01:45:54,002 --> 01:45:57,242
place to start. I think that the delegation on behalf

1405
01:45:57,242 --> 01:46:01,408
of Michelle research speaks exactly to that. That it gives

1406
01:46:01,408 --> 01:46:06,490
an opportunity for families to support their children. To get.

1407
01:46:07,726 --> 01:46:09,566
To have a place of their own and a place

1408
01:46:09,566 --> 01:46:15,672
to start. Councilor Upton's concern about lot coverage. Well, currently,

1409
01:46:15,672 --> 01:46:18,312
our legislation allows people to have ten. Acres of land

1410
01:46:18,312 --> 01:46:22,590
and build a 20,000 square foot house, which. Is massive

1411
01:46:22,590 --> 01:46:24,910
lot coverage, but it's only a single family. But we

1412
01:46:24,910 --> 01:46:28,767
can't build. Two 5000 square foot houses or units on

1413
01:46:28,767 --> 01:46:31,687
the same property because of this legislation. If we talk

1414
01:46:31,687 --> 01:46:37,839
about impact. To the land that. 's kind of counterintuitive

1415
01:46:37,839 --> 01:46:41,839
or potentially hypocritical that we allow these kind of uses,

1416
01:46:41,839 --> 01:46:46,849
but the lack of ARa support for ar use. Does

1417
01:46:46,849 --> 01:46:53,175
not. I want to comment on the two ladies. Who

1418
01:46:53,175 --> 01:46:57,349
spoke. To. Their product, for lack of a better term.

1419
01:46:57,349 --> 01:47:01,101
It was a very nice commercial, ladies. But they're providing

1420
01:47:01,101 --> 01:47:04,974
a service. I know of residents within my ward who

1421
01:47:04,974 --> 01:47:06,934
have purchased properties, but I can't afford to. Build a

1422
01:47:06,934 --> 01:47:10,254
house on the property now because of their current economic

1423
01:47:10,254 --> 01:47:12,814
situation. So sometimes they just pull up a trailer and

1424
01:47:12,814 --> 01:47:15,814
live in a trailer for a while and they are

1425
01:47:15,814 --> 01:47:20,729
problematic. And potentially not permitted, so they don't tell anybody.

1426
01:47:20,729 --> 01:47:23,915
So again, the safety issues. Are not properly dealt with.

1427
01:47:25,563 --> 01:47:29,163
Septic, servicing wells, those kind of things, they're problematic. Putting

1428
01:47:29,163 --> 01:47:34,657
an aru, especially a portable one. As wholesale housing incorporated

1429
01:47:34,657 --> 01:47:37,177
on Highway 48. They're the guys with a big flag

1430
01:47:37,177 --> 01:47:41,017
just north of andorf. That's the kind of product that

1431
01:47:41,017 --> 01:47:43,857
they provide, and they're giving people an opportunity. To get

1432
01:47:43,857 --> 01:47:47,409
into the market. I know of a family outside of

1433
01:47:47,409 --> 01:47:50,409
a municipality where two brothers bought a property and they

1434
01:47:50,409 --> 01:47:53,729
put two mobile homes on it and live in that

1435
01:47:53,729 --> 01:47:57,999
property. Somebody stopped that clock. And live in that property

1436
01:47:57,999 --> 01:47:59,839
while they can afford to build homes and then move

1437
01:47:59,839 --> 01:48:01,959
it. One will move on a separate way, and then

1438
01:48:01,959 --> 01:48:05,039
they can move on. Without these opportunities, people can't. Get

1439
01:48:05,039 --> 01:48:07,922
into the housing market. For everything I said to Kim.

1440
01:48:10,980 --> 01:48:14,980
When she deputed on this item. I support the farm

1441
01:48:14,980 --> 01:48:21,151
lease. Intergenerational farm families need our support, and those farmers

1442
01:48:21,151 --> 01:48:24,951
especially, and also to Ms. Johnson. Who deputed these people,

1443
01:48:24,951 --> 01:48:28,231
who lived on these lands for generations, potentially hundreds of

1444
01:48:28,231 --> 01:48:30,671
years. They're. Not about to screw it up. If we

1445
01:48:30,671 --> 01:48:34,522
can't allow the farmers to make the decisions themselves. What

1446
01:48:34,522 --> 01:48:36,522
are we going to do to tell them? And I'm

1447
01:48:36,522 --> 01:48:39,442
also going to address some of the comments from storm.

1448
01:48:41,038 --> 01:48:43,998
I would prefer that our Miss Valley would make decisions

1449
01:48:43,998 --> 01:48:47,118
at our level because we know our municipality. And we

1450
01:48:47,118 --> 01:48:51,195
know what is needed and what works. Much better than

1451
01:48:51,195 --> 01:48:57,215
having the province. Making. Top down, one size fits all

1452
01:48:57,215 --> 01:49:02,235
decisions for the entire province. Richard Stoville is. A unique

1453
01:49:02,235 --> 01:49:06,637
town. We have unique solutions. To our requirements, and I

1454
01:49:06,637 --> 01:49:10,197
think we should be allowed to make those decisions. Finally,

1455
01:49:10,197 --> 01:49:16,067
Mr. Mayor. I do concur. With Kim in regards to

1456
01:49:16,067 --> 01:49:22,083
item number three. Specifically. Sub point C broader permissions for

1457
01:49:22,083 --> 01:49:27,363
small scale commercial, industrial, and institutional uses in countryside area

1458
01:49:27,363 --> 01:49:28,883
that makes me a little nervous because we have a

1459
01:49:28,883 --> 01:49:31,923
whole lot of unpermitted commercial activity. And I think that

1460
01:49:31,923 --> 01:49:37,101
if we can. Punt that back to staff for them

1461
01:49:37,101 --> 01:49:41,810
to come up with a report for commercial activities. In

1462
01:49:41,810 --> 01:49:47,060
appropriate areas, my desire would be. In conjunction with transportation

1463
01:49:47,060 --> 01:49:52,932
facilities. Specifically. Four or four corridor, et cetera, that those

1464
01:49:52,932 --> 01:49:58,201
kind of permissions. Would be allowed. Out in the more

1465
01:49:58,201 --> 01:50:04,205
remote rural areas. I can't support that. So. I would

1466
01:50:04,205 --> 01:50:06,405
ask Mr. Mayor, when the time comes that we would.

1467
01:50:07,907 --> 01:50:12,809
Defer. Item three, part C. For further study, if that's

1468
01:50:12,809 --> 01:50:15,449
possible. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Yeah, we'll go. Through

1469
01:50:15,449 --> 01:50:19,209
the list, and then we'll come back to any referral

1470
01:50:19,209 --> 01:50:28,365
motions. Councilor Smith. Please. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Well, I

1471
01:50:28,365 --> 01:50:30,525
want to take a bit of a different tact with

1472
01:50:30,525 --> 01:50:35,460
this whole issue. But I want to start out by

1473
01:50:35,460 --> 01:50:40,359
mentioning that I've sat here on council. For over ten

1474
01:50:40,359 --> 01:50:45,769
years. And one of the real benefits of having the

1475
01:50:45,769 --> 01:50:51,307
community of Stoville that we have is. We allow? The

1476
01:50:51,307 --> 01:50:55,886
public to come here, make delegations, talk, explain. Their position.

1477
01:50:55,886 --> 01:50:59,849
We've heard from some good speakers. Over all those years.

1478
01:51:01,023 --> 01:51:05,518
And they have an opportunity. To perhaps put forward ideas

1479
01:51:05,518 --> 01:51:08,878
and things that maybe we haven't thought about and perhaps

1480
01:51:08,878 --> 01:51:10,718
even change our mind as to how we're going to

1481
01:51:10,718 --> 01:51:16,585
vote, but I've got to say that. Today for the

1482
01:51:16,585 --> 01:51:19,730
very first, for the very first time. I am absolutely,

1483
01:51:19,730 --> 01:51:26,850
absolutely rejecting the presentation made by storm. I'm sorry. Storm

1484
01:51:26,850 --> 01:51:32,101
coalition. Your speaker. Is so free, or has been so

1485
01:51:32,101 --> 01:51:37,275
free with words and assumptions. Even, especially on social media.

1486
01:51:39,608 --> 01:51:45,635
That without, in my opinion. Checking the facts. Sir. The

1487
01:51:45,635 --> 01:51:47,915
mayor has read out some items that aren't in social

1488
01:51:47,915 --> 01:51:53,967
media, presented by storm. And. I have simply incompletely blanked

1489
01:51:53,967 --> 01:51:59,160
out your complete presentation. I'm sorry to say that. And

1490
01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:04,434
your comments. Will have no bearing. On me whatsoever. Rest

1491
01:52:04,434 --> 01:52:08,109
of council can take their own facts, but. I have

1492
01:52:08,109 --> 01:52:10,669
no opportunity at all to support any of your comments.

1493
01:52:10,669 --> 01:52:14,189
I've got your 20. Some odd page report, and it

1494
01:52:14,189 --> 01:52:16,869
is to me. I've already chucked it, so, sir. I

1495
01:52:16,869 --> 01:52:21,109
am sorry, but your comments and your presentation will have

1496
01:52:21,109 --> 01:52:25,509
no bearing on how I feel on this subject whatsoever.

1497
01:52:25,509 --> 01:52:33,039
Thank you. Councilor Smith. Councilor Sherband, please. First clarification.

1498
01:52:37,136 --> 01:52:38,856
There was the comment that I asked in the beginning

1499
01:52:38,856 --> 01:52:41,856
in regards to how this came to counsel. And it

1500
01:52:41,856 --> 01:52:45,656
was stated it was meryl, directoral, marital powers, whatever. And

1501
01:52:45,656 --> 01:52:48,696
then it was stated. That council can do that anytime.

1502
01:52:48,696 --> 01:52:50,576
Am I allowed to go to staff and ask them

1503
01:52:50,576 --> 01:52:54,044
to write? A report on an item. Do I have

1504
01:52:54,044 --> 01:52:58,724
that authority? No. Through council resolution, members of council would

1505
01:52:58,724 --> 01:53:00,244
be able to do that. By bringing a notice of

1506
01:53:00,244 --> 01:53:03,084
motion forward. Thank you. Okay. Just wanted to make that

1507
01:53:03,084 --> 01:53:10,769
clear. Next. I totally, totally, totally support. And accept Storm's

1508
01:53:10,769 --> 01:53:14,969
comments. It's people who are passionate enough and care enough

1509
01:53:14,969 --> 01:53:18,369
to come and to be able to investigate and to

1510
01:53:18,369 --> 01:53:23,009
provide us alternative answers, I believe are where we are

1511
01:53:23,009 --> 01:53:27,205
here today and why we're here. The conversation in regards

1512
01:53:27,205 --> 01:53:32,205
to ARU and the farm argument that I'm hearing over

1513
01:53:32,205 --> 01:53:37,593
and over and over, I find. Somewhat, I guess maybe

1514
01:53:37,593 --> 01:53:43,486
misunderstanding. And through you, Mr. Mayor, to. Director, Commissioner of

1515
01:53:43,486 --> 01:53:50,187
development services. Our farm is already not allowed. Aru. Through

1516
01:53:50,187 --> 01:53:53,827
your worship. No. The purpose of the report is to

1517
01:53:53,827 --> 01:53:57,027
provide that equality depending on where the farm is located

1518
01:53:57,027 --> 01:54:03,407
in the town. We'll determine right now whether or not

1519
01:54:03,407 --> 01:54:06,647
an Aru is permitted. So unfortunately, no. It depends on

1520
01:54:06,647 --> 01:54:10,527
what? If you go to the figure in the report

1521
01:54:10,527 --> 01:54:15,602
that has the color schemes. I will hold up here.

1522
01:54:15,602 --> 01:54:17,682
Depending on the color, that's where it's permitted or. Not

1523
01:54:17,682 --> 01:54:21,442
permitted. And the challenge for staff is when they do

1524
01:54:21,442 --> 01:54:23,602
come to the counter or they do. Write in and

1525
01:54:23,602 --> 01:54:26,002
ask for permission. It's depending on what side of the

1526
01:54:26,002 --> 01:54:28,162
road or what. Side of the line they're on. Farm

1527
01:54:28,162 --> 01:54:31,675
is a farm to a farmer, but unfortunately. Due to

1528
01:54:31,675 --> 01:54:34,115
provincial policy. We cannot permit in some and we can

1529
01:54:34,115 --> 01:54:37,155
in others. That's the challenge we have as staff. Okay,

1530
01:54:37,155 --> 01:54:44,383
that's interesting because. Just reading. It states that multiple agriculture

1531
01:54:44,383 --> 01:54:51,918
planets organizations. A report recommends retaining existing legislation. To allow

1532
01:54:51,918 --> 01:54:57,872
residential on farm. Additional residential units. So what are they

1533
01:54:57,872 --> 01:55:01,272
saying that you're saying they can't? What am I missing?

1534
01:55:01,272 --> 01:55:05,209
Sorry, what are you referring to? In the report from,

1535
01:55:05,209 --> 01:55:10,009
they just came out with the green belt ca, it

1536
01:55:10,009 --> 01:55:13,449
says here that and I didn't look up the legislation,

1537
01:55:13,449 --> 01:55:17,461
and that's why I'm asking this. Question, because. It says

1538
01:55:17,461 --> 01:55:22,901
retain existing green belt policies. Retain for on farm additional

1539
01:55:22,901 --> 01:55:27,901
residential units. I thought farmers were allowed to have additional

1540
01:55:27,901 --> 01:55:34,318
residential units, I guess forever. So through your worship. I

1541
01:55:34,318 --> 01:55:37,863
don't know. The materials you're talking to right now, but

1542
01:55:37,863 --> 01:55:40,903
I will say there is a difference depending on the

1543
01:55:40,903 --> 01:55:47,161
designation of dual courage marine permissions. Worker units, residents for

1544
01:55:47,161 --> 01:55:55,931
workers are permitted with criteria. So workers. Residences are permitted

1545
01:55:55,931 --> 01:55:58,891
across the board for farms, but that is a little

1546
01:55:58,891 --> 01:56:03,131
bit different than the Aru. Permissions, so retired farmers are

1547
01:56:03,131 --> 01:56:07,117
not allowed to. Build an Aru to retire on and

1548
01:56:07,117 --> 01:56:11,877
keep their principal space for their whatever family to take.

1549
01:56:11,877 --> 01:56:14,637
Over through your worship and the majority of the rural

1550
01:56:14,637 --> 01:56:18,553
area of stovel. That is correct. Okay. Thank you for

1551
01:56:18,553 --> 01:56:20,993
that legislation. And I guess I'll have to go back

1552
01:56:20,993 --> 01:56:25,728
and ask. I guess I've mentioned many a times and

1553
01:56:25,728 --> 01:56:29,448
my concerns of this legislation, and I really do not

1554
01:56:29,448 --> 01:56:33,368
want to sit here and be the community that leads

1555
01:56:33,368 --> 01:56:38,168
this onslaught of request to the province prior to their

1556
01:56:38,168 --> 01:56:42,368
opening and review that we would like them to consider

1557
01:56:42,368 --> 01:56:47,876
and. Discuss. Us. Bringing or not us, the province bringing

1558
01:56:47,876 --> 01:56:54,134
forward. A. I guess, prior to the review. The opportunity

1559
01:56:54,134 --> 01:56:59,697
for. Rule. Communities in the green belt. Yokridge's marine to.

1560
01:57:01,374 --> 01:57:07,384
Have ar youth. I don't know. Where the buck stops.

1561
01:57:09,303 --> 01:57:12,223
Everybody's pretty much aware that I've always voted against anything

1562
01:57:12,223 --> 01:57:17,818
that goes on the green belt. The mzos. The. Additional

1563
01:57:17,818 --> 01:57:23,770
properties. If somebody doesn't stop the bus. It's just going

1564
01:57:23,770 --> 01:57:26,730
to keep collecting more people until it can't carry the

1565
01:57:26,730 --> 01:57:30,570
weight. Anymore, and that's what we're doing. This is out

1566
01:57:30,570 --> 01:57:34,690
of our legislation. Writing a letter to them, asking them.

1567
01:57:36,301 --> 01:57:41,810
To look at. This is one thing, but asking. For

1568
01:57:41,810 --> 01:57:47,987
the town of Witchard stove. To endorse the request. To

1569
01:57:47,987 --> 01:57:51,147
have Aru on the Oakridge brain and the green belt.

1570
01:57:52,716 --> 01:58:00,451
Exceeds our responsibility. And I believe even. My position, which.

1571
01:58:01,583 --> 01:58:05,103
I was asked to represent the residents for the municipality,

1572
01:58:05,103 --> 01:58:11,036
but not for the provincial legislation. Asking, as I say,

1573
01:58:11,036 --> 01:58:16,292
through a letter, but putting forth this report. Is actually

1574
01:58:16,292 --> 01:58:19,915
going far beyond. Sending a letter saying that we would

1575
01:58:19,915 --> 01:58:24,756
like ar use. In the Oak ridge of Marine and

1576
01:58:24,756 --> 01:58:29,196
the Green belt. We received 13 letters of residents stating

1577
01:58:29,196 --> 01:58:33,828
that's all I received anyways. Emails saying please don't. I

1578
01:58:33,828 --> 01:58:38,431
receive two that said, please do. And one of them.

1579
01:58:38,776 --> 01:58:44,071
Was. One of them was. A business. Sorry, the one

1580
01:58:44,071 --> 01:58:47,391
which councilor Croon spoke to, but the one that probably.

1581
01:58:49,420 --> 01:58:54,362
Impressed me the most and. That was recent. Was we

1582
01:58:54,362 --> 01:59:02,874
received. An email. From. A student. And this was prior

1583
01:59:02,874 --> 01:59:05,554
to this debate. So this is very honest. And this

1584
01:59:05,554 --> 01:59:10,286
is our young people. Speaking. And I was overwhelmed with

1585
01:59:10,286 --> 01:59:13,947
the fact and the timing that. This actually came forward

1586
01:59:13,947 --> 01:59:15,867
to us, and I'm going to read it. Dear members

1587
01:59:15,867 --> 01:59:18,907
of council, my name is Jalen Ramlin. I'm a student

1588
01:59:18,907 --> 01:59:22,347
stole district as part of the class project on social

1589
01:59:22,347 --> 01:59:25,507
change. I've created a campaign the loss of green space

1590
01:59:25,507 --> 01:59:29,818
contributing to climate change. Focusing on the loss of green

1591
01:59:29,818 --> 01:59:34,218
space in stovel. This campaign is about something that affects

1592
01:59:34,218 --> 01:59:37,658
us all in Stoville. The loss of green space. As

1593
01:59:37,658 --> 01:59:41,258
our town continues to grow, as more buildings go up,

1594
01:59:41,258 --> 01:59:45,218
we're losing the trees, parks, natural areas that help fight

1595
01:59:45,218 --> 01:59:49,563
climate change, reduce pollution prevent flood. Flooding support our mental

1596
01:59:49,563 --> 01:59:53,323
and physical well being. Green spaces in Stoveville help to

1597
01:59:53,323 --> 01:59:59,124
keep our town during heat waves. Absorb carbon dioxide, prevent

1598
01:59:59,124 --> 02:00:03,404
flooding during major storms, improve physical and mental health, and

1599
02:00:03,404 --> 02:00:08,524
provide safe habitat for local wildlife. As our population continues

1600
02:00:08,524 --> 02:00:13,364
to grow, we must balance development with sustainability. Losing green

1601
02:00:13,364 --> 02:00:16,204
space means a hotter, more polluted, and less livable community.

1602
02:00:17,302 --> 02:00:22,977
Through. My campaign, I am proposing solutions such as preserve

1603
02:00:22,977 --> 02:00:26,617
remaining green spaces in town, installing green roof solar panels.

1604
02:00:28,369 --> 02:00:31,609
On public buildings and residential buildings. Linemore streets with trees.

1605
02:00:31,609 --> 02:00:34,489
Green year add more public garbage recycling guns and four

1606
02:00:34,489 --> 02:00:37,649
small fines for loitering and put in bike lane sidewalks

1607
02:00:37,649 --> 02:00:41,818
to promote greener travel opportunities. To spread the awareness, I

1608
02:00:41,818 --> 02:00:46,618
created an Instagram campaign, and the feedback from the acute

1609
02:00:46,618 --> 02:00:50,578
community was powerful. Here are a few real comments that

1610
02:00:50,578 --> 02:00:54,378
residents made so true. Stoval population is growing we need

1611
02:00:54,378 --> 02:00:57,378
more homes and business thrive, but we also need to

1612
02:00:57,378 --> 02:01:00,378
have the plan in place to protect our green spaces

1613
02:01:00,378 --> 02:01:03,895
and. Ensure our wildlife is protected. Walking with dogs and

1614
02:01:03,895 --> 02:01:07,255
green spaces is decompressing enriching enriching. I love going for

1615
02:01:07,255 --> 02:01:09,495
walks and seeing all the green in the neighborhood. It

1616
02:01:09,495 --> 02:01:12,415
is so helpful for our community to have these spaces

1617
02:01:12,415 --> 02:01:15,895
for everyone to release their stress just walking in space

1618
02:01:15,895 --> 02:01:19,095
lowers my stress level. After you return home, you feel

1619
02:01:19,095 --> 02:01:22,955
your body battery is recharged. Necessity for human well being.

1620
02:01:22,955 --> 02:01:25,395
Last year was the hottest summer to date, and we

1621
02:01:25,395 --> 02:01:28,955
need to take action. Flooding is becoming such an issue.

1622
02:01:30,641 --> 02:01:33,681
And this strong storm. These strong storms and downpours. Councilor,

1623
02:01:33,681 --> 02:01:36,121
can you wrap up, please? Yeah. This shows how much

1624
02:01:36,121 --> 02:01:40,201
residents value our green space. Not just the environment, but

1625
02:01:40,201 --> 02:01:42,881
for the daily life and well being. And I say

1626
02:01:42,881 --> 02:01:46,281
well fed. And we should listen to our young people

1627
02:01:46,281 --> 02:01:49,041
because they're their future who have to take over this

1628
02:01:49,041 --> 02:01:53,774
municip. Municipality. Thank you. Thank you. Councilor Acton, please.

1629
02:02:00,522 --> 02:02:08,733
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Before I get into. This. Recommendation.

1630
02:02:08,733 --> 02:02:11,213
I would just like to remind everybody and say this,

1631
02:02:11,213 --> 02:02:14,933
that I think with regards to needed housing. I believe

1632
02:02:14,933 --> 02:02:17,253
we here in Richard stovel have been doing our fair

1633
02:02:17,253 --> 02:02:21,733
share, and I think the province would probably complement us

1634
02:02:21,733 --> 02:02:27,169
on our contributions to date with regards to this. To

1635
02:02:27,169 --> 02:02:30,729
this, to this recommendation. It says in the report that

1636
02:02:30,729 --> 02:02:35,578
staff recommends that. The province expedite the review of these

1637
02:02:35,578 --> 02:02:40,763
provincial plans. As opposed to waiting until the mandated ten

1638
02:02:40,763 --> 02:02:47,032
year review. Which has been said today. Is anticipated by

1639
02:02:47,032 --> 02:02:54,891
2027. So in the next 18 months or less. The

1640
02:02:54,891 --> 02:03:00,015
province will do their review. At that point, all parties,

1641
02:03:00,015 --> 02:03:07,174
the public. The municipality, whoever. Will have an opportunity to

1642
02:03:07,174 --> 02:03:12,307
make comments. I think it would be wise at this

1643
02:03:12,307 --> 02:03:16,364
point to let the province do their work. And review.

1644
02:03:17,582 --> 02:03:24,249
On their timetable and. They will own their decision. Therefore,

1645
02:03:24,249 --> 02:03:28,329
I can't support or endorse this recommendation. I don't think

1646
02:03:28,329 --> 02:03:31,969
there's a need to expedite review, in my opinion, to

1647
02:03:31,969 --> 02:03:35,750
facilitate it needed housing. In the Oakridge's moraine in the

1648
02:03:35,750 --> 02:03:40,329
green belt. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. Councilor Acton.

1649
02:03:40,329 --> 02:03:44,372
Councilor Barley. Thank you, your worship. And thank you to

1650
02:03:44,372 --> 02:03:52,416
all deputations here. Today was great. Thank you, my councilor

1651
02:03:52,416 --> 02:03:53,976
coharts here, but I'm going to try and keep my

1652
02:03:53,976 --> 02:03:56,568
eye on the ball. What we're here for today. And

1653
02:03:56,568 --> 02:04:00,808
it's to help out our farming community. Basically, there's a

1654
02:04:00,808 --> 02:04:03,168
lot of misinformation out there. I just love Facebook and

1655
02:04:03,168 --> 02:04:06,848
social media. I've been reached out to many times over

1656
02:04:06,848 --> 02:04:10,815
the last few days. About. Can't believe that the mayor

1657
02:04:10,815 --> 02:04:13,295
with his strong powers is open up the green belt.

1658
02:04:13,295 --> 02:04:17,335
For full development. And when I got back to the

1659
02:04:17,335 --> 02:04:21,403
residence and said, This is what we're asking. The staff

1660
02:04:21,403 --> 02:04:24,544
to ask the problems to look at. It was for

1661
02:04:24,544 --> 02:04:27,024
our farming community to build so that we can keep,

1662
02:04:27,024 --> 02:04:31,104
as councilor Cruz said, we can keep our farmers at

1663
02:04:31,104 --> 02:04:34,606
home. There isn't one person up here. I don't think

1664
02:04:34,606 --> 02:04:37,006
that would open up this. Green belt for full development.

1665
02:04:37,006 --> 02:04:39,726
I mean, I just received another email from please don't

1666
02:04:39,726 --> 02:04:43,686
let developers take over our green belt. Nobody up here

1667
02:04:43,686 --> 02:04:47,597
wants that. Nobody. And I don't think if allowing the

1668
02:04:47,597 --> 02:04:53,644
farmers to have. A second dwelling or build onto their

1669
02:04:53,644 --> 02:04:57,044
dwelling to have a separate entrance and that sort of

1670
02:04:57,044 --> 02:05:00,740
thing. Is going to hurt or disrupt anything. On the

1671
02:05:00,740 --> 02:05:03,060
green belt, and I don't think it's going to open

1672
02:05:03,060 --> 02:05:07,500
up any doors for any development. So anyways, thank you

1673
02:05:07,500 --> 02:05:11,521
for clarifying that. You're not opening up the green belt

1674
02:05:11,521 --> 02:05:14,881
for full development with your strong mare power. I will

1675
02:05:14,881 --> 02:05:20,434
be supporting this. Thank you. Thank you, councilor. Hey, anyone

1676
02:05:20,434 --> 02:05:26,351
wanted to round two? Okay, Councilor Sherbet.

1677
02:05:30,594 --> 02:05:34,914
I keep hearing Aru for our farmers. For our farmers.

1678
02:05:34,914 --> 02:05:37,234
For our farmers. I feel like we're leaning on this

1679
02:05:37,234 --> 02:05:40,554
as a reason that we're doing this just for our

1680
02:05:40,554 --> 02:05:47,649
farmers. We're not. We're saying we're allowing second dwellings. On

1681
02:05:47,649 --> 02:05:53,914
these properties. And correct me if I'm wrong, commissioner. Of

1682
02:05:53,914 --> 02:05:59,518
development services. Are we doing this just for farmers? This

1683
02:05:59,518 --> 02:06:03,697
is what this report is. Through to mayor to councilor

1684
02:06:03,697 --> 02:06:11,201
Sherband. We're asking for the permission. On the lands that

1685
02:06:11,201 --> 02:06:14,976
are currently not allowing it. So it be it a

1686
02:06:14,976 --> 02:06:18,616
house or a farm, it would be the same permission

1687
02:06:18,616 --> 02:06:21,672
so for anybody. For anybody that currently has a house.

1688
02:06:23,348 --> 02:06:25,348
They would have that permission. Yes. Correct. Thank you. I

1689
02:06:25,348 --> 02:06:27,628
just want to make it clear, because we seem to

1690
02:06:27,628 --> 02:06:31,462
saying we don't want to deny our farmers and. It's

1691
02:06:31,462 --> 02:06:33,502
just a myth that we're doing it for the farm.

1692
02:06:33,502 --> 02:06:40,725
Thank you. Thank you. Councilor barley. I would just comment

1693
02:06:40,725 --> 02:06:46,045
then, for everybody. Thank you. Thank you, Councilor Croon. Are

1694
02:06:46,045 --> 02:06:50,285
you going to move your deferral at this point? Yes.

1695
02:06:50,285 --> 02:06:54,750
Okay. Sorry, my screen is not working. There you go.

1696
02:06:54,750 --> 02:07:02,594
There we go. Okay. He's always blame. The equipment. Yeah.

1697
02:07:02,594 --> 02:07:09,039
So again, to move. The resolution as is, with the

1698
02:07:09,039 --> 02:07:17,366
exception of three subset. C. To. Defer that portion and

1699
02:07:17,366 --> 02:07:23,261
ask staff to come back. With a report as to

1700
02:07:23,261 --> 02:07:28,421
what might be appropriate. Areas in the town for small

1701
02:07:28,421 --> 02:07:34,097
scale commercial, industrial. Uses in the countryside area. I guess

1702
02:07:34,097 --> 02:07:36,737
we're going to leave that out. Small scale industrial. Uses.

1703
02:07:39,408 --> 02:07:41,328
In the areas we're talking about. I'll let you word,

1704
02:07:41,328 --> 02:07:48,234
Smith that, Mr. Director. Sorry. Through the mayor. Industrial commercial

1705
02:07:48,234 --> 02:07:53,223
are permitted in that designation. What we are leaning towards

1706
02:07:53,223 --> 02:07:56,063
was broadening those permissions, but we can provide a report

1707
02:07:56,063 --> 02:07:58,663
to that effect. If you're asking for us to provide

1708
02:07:58,663 --> 02:08:02,487
more clarity on what we mean by broadening. And perhaps.

1709
02:08:03,277 --> 02:08:05,677
A definition of small scale industrial because we do have

1710
02:08:05,677 --> 02:08:10,133
situations where people currently will buy. A piece of land.

1711
02:08:11,772 --> 02:08:14,492
In a traditional residential area, estate subdivisions was becoming a

1712
02:08:14,492 --> 02:08:18,052
problem, and they turn the property into a full scale

1713
02:08:18,052 --> 02:08:21,772
commercial activity. You have a ten acre estate and you're

1714
02:08:21,772 --> 02:08:23,812
enjoying the wildlife. Next. Thing. You know, there's 40 dump

1715
02:08:23,812 --> 02:08:26,732
trucks parked in the backyard next to, so perhaps a.

1716
02:08:26,732 --> 02:08:31,771
Definition of that. And if necessary, Some kind of restriction

1717
02:08:31,771 --> 02:08:34,371
in areas where we don't want them and more permissions

1718
02:08:34,371 --> 02:08:35,811
to where we do want them, but I will leave

1719
02:08:35,811 --> 02:08:40,562
that to. Your recommendations. Through the mayor. We will explore

1720
02:08:40,562 --> 02:08:45,394
that. We will also have to use permission policy. For

1721
02:08:45,394 --> 02:08:48,114
guidance on what the definitions are. So we will explore

1722
02:08:48,114 --> 02:08:50,834
that. It's a complex, complex. Issue. That's why you and

1723
02:08:50,834 --> 02:08:54,034
your staff are doing it, not me. So with that,

1724
02:08:54,034 --> 02:09:00,107
the word smithing, Mr. Mayor. I will. Propose that deferral.

1725
02:09:01,743 --> 02:09:04,743
I'm going to just give my comments first and then

1726
02:09:04,743 --> 02:09:07,023
we'll get a mover. In second or for the deferral

1727
02:09:07,023 --> 02:09:09,703
and then the motion. Well, the motion we've. Already got

1728
02:09:09,703 --> 02:09:16,168
on the floor. What do you need? Final clerk. Okay,

1729
02:09:16,168 --> 02:09:18,888
let's just do that. Now, is there second or for

1730
02:09:18,888 --> 02:09:23,088
Councilor Kern's? Deferral. Is there a second, or anyone seconding?

1731
02:09:23,088 --> 02:09:25,288
I will, Councilor Shervin. Will second it, okay?

1732
02:09:33,635 --> 02:09:38,873
This is an important. Policy report. For our community and

1733
02:09:38,873 --> 02:09:47,288
for the province. I wholeheartedly reject any assertion that. We're

1734
02:09:47,288 --> 02:09:54,309
bypassing regular counsel. Deliberations or that I'm somehow. Strong. Marrying,

1735
02:09:54,309 --> 02:09:57,603
opening the green belt. I don't have that authority to

1736
02:09:57,603 --> 02:10:01,560
do that, and that's been perpetuated. By storm and by

1737
02:10:01,560 --> 02:10:06,034
other social media outlets. That's the case. There is no

1738
02:10:06,034 --> 02:10:10,384
question. And actually, the deputy from storm, I think, alluded

1739
02:10:10,384 --> 02:10:13,144
to the fact that there needs to be some discussion

1740
02:10:13,144 --> 02:10:18,776
around reasonable reform. Is that a fair statement, sir? I

1741
02:10:18,776 --> 02:10:21,136
think that through the appropriate challenge, through the appropriate channel,

1742
02:10:21,136 --> 02:10:24,096
of course. Yeah, absolutely. But there needs. To be a

1743
02:10:24,096 --> 02:10:27,903
discussion of a reasonable form. There are too many inconsistencies

1744
02:10:27,903 --> 02:10:31,713
within. The conservation plan, and I'm just going to read

1745
02:10:31,713 --> 02:10:34,487
one of them to you. So an unpermitted use in

1746
02:10:34,487 --> 02:10:36,647
the natural linkage area. We're here debating. Whether or not.

1747
02:10:38,249 --> 02:10:43,941
Mrs. Johnson can have a second unit. On her acreage

1748
02:10:43,941 --> 02:10:50,227
where she saved trumpeter swans. In the province. And yet,

1749
02:10:50,227 --> 02:10:53,447
if she would like. To. She can apply for a

1750
02:10:53,447 --> 02:10:58,466
mineral aggregate operation. She can dig a pit on her

1751
02:10:58,466 --> 02:11:02,865
property. That's an allowable use in the Ochre's marine natural

1752
02:11:02,865 --> 02:11:07,221
linkage area. Or she could do a wayside pit. She

1753
02:11:07,221 --> 02:11:12,384
can do the same. In the countryside area of which

1754
02:11:12,384 --> 02:11:16,810
her home is not in. But how can we allow,

1755
02:11:16,810 --> 02:11:21,420
like, the allowable uses for the natural linkage? Our forest

1756
02:11:21,420 --> 02:11:25,300
management, conservation projects, agricultural uses, infrastructure uses, home businesses, home

1757
02:11:25,300 --> 02:11:29,060
industries, bed and breakfast on farm diversified, unservice parks and

1758
02:11:29,060 --> 02:11:33,139
a pit, an aggregate operation. It makes zero sense to

1759
02:11:33,139 --> 02:11:36,659
me how we're talking about saving our green space, and

1760
02:11:36,659 --> 02:11:39,659
yet. There's an allowable use for someone to buy a

1761
02:11:39,659 --> 02:11:43,499
property in our municipality and rightfully apply for a license

1762
02:11:43,499 --> 02:11:47,064
if they can get it, and then. Dig 200ft into

1763
02:11:47,064 --> 02:11:54,754
the ground. Makes no sense. Makes no sense. So we

1764
02:11:54,754 --> 02:11:57,234
are addressing the needs that have been brought forward by

1765
02:11:57,234 --> 02:12:03,327
residents. And. There clearly are differing opinions about how we

1766
02:12:03,327 --> 02:12:05,967
should be addressing those needs, but the fact that we're

1767
02:12:05,967 --> 02:12:10,647
having the discussion today is actually what democracy is about.

1768
02:12:10,647 --> 02:12:16,359
It's actually how we're supposed to operate. We're to deal

1769
02:12:16,359 --> 02:12:19,439
with issues that are real life issues for our residents

1770
02:12:19,439 --> 02:12:23,678
and make recommend. Recommendations to staff where we have authority,

1771
02:12:23,678 --> 02:12:27,536
but in this case, to the province. I'm happy to

1772
02:12:27,536 --> 02:12:30,856
support the resolution. I'm happy to support the deferral. I

1773
02:12:30,856 --> 02:12:40,131
think Kim Emperingham brought up. A good point. And Councilor

1774
02:12:40,131 --> 02:12:43,891
Krune, you've taken that one and brought that. Forward. I

1775
02:12:43,891 --> 02:12:47,858
think that actually deserves a second look. But we are

1776
02:12:47,858 --> 02:12:53,230
not the decision making body. For this report. We can

1777
02:12:53,230 --> 02:12:56,470
obviously approve the recommendations, but the main thing is that

1778
02:12:56,470 --> 02:13:01,807
we endorse the recommendations. For the province to consider. We

1779
02:13:01,807 --> 02:13:08,447
know many times from this dias, we have recommended resolutions

1780
02:13:08,447 --> 02:13:10,647
to go to the province and they have not listened.

1781
02:13:12,967 --> 02:13:20,094
This is. Important on the ground. Response to members in

1782
02:13:20,094 --> 02:13:26,198
our community. Who are wanting to, as the deputies have

1783
02:13:26,198 --> 02:13:28,958
said, age in place, find a place for their kids.

1784
02:13:28,958 --> 02:13:32,079
To live. A place where they can afford to live.

1785
02:13:35,293 --> 02:13:39,413
And I don't see us as opening up for Sprawl.

1786
02:13:39,413 --> 02:13:42,133
This isn't. About Sprawl. This is not about subdivisions being

1787
02:13:42,133 --> 02:13:46,566
built. This is about an Aru and. We went through

1788
02:13:46,566 --> 02:13:49,726
an entire process around Aru's, and we know what they

1789
02:13:49,726 --> 02:13:53,006
are and. The presentation that started us off this afternoon

1790
02:13:53,006 --> 02:13:57,380
clearly articulated what they are. The fact that someone can

1791
02:13:57,380 --> 02:14:00,300
build a 20,000 square foot house, but we won't. Allow

1792
02:14:00,300 --> 02:14:07,553
a second unit within. It is bonkers to me. They'll

1793
02:14:07,553 --> 02:14:11,669
do it after the fact. There's a guarantee. You drive

1794
02:14:11,669 --> 02:14:14,989
down Bethesda. There's more than one family. Living independently in

1795
02:14:14,989 --> 02:14:18,469
some of those monster homes, but they're doing it illegally,

1796
02:14:18,469 --> 02:14:22,980
and. That is just a bonkers policy. We should be

1797
02:14:22,980 --> 02:14:25,860
allowed to let families who want to live together. Live

1798
02:14:25,860 --> 02:14:30,009
together how they want to live together. And small additional

1799
02:14:30,009 --> 02:14:34,981
residential units are not going to destroy our environment. They're

1800
02:14:34,981 --> 02:14:37,261
going to solve a massive problem that we have in

1801
02:14:37,261 --> 02:14:39,501
this province, in this country. Right now, which is finding

1802
02:14:39,501 --> 02:14:41,981
places for our kids to live or for our seniors

1803
02:14:41,981 --> 02:14:46,012
to live. And making a recommendation to the province. Endorsing

1804
02:14:46,012 --> 02:14:53,831
a recommendation. Is not opening. Up for urban sprawl. Despite

1805
02:14:53,831 --> 02:15:00,304
what the clickbait on social media shows, So, councilor croon,

1806
02:15:00,304 --> 02:15:05,694
you've got a motion on the floor to. Move the

1807
02:15:05,694 --> 02:15:11,414
recommendation and defer item three, point c, to a future

1808
02:15:11,414 --> 02:15:15,400
staff report. Yes, sir. Okay, so we'll speak to the

1809
02:15:15,400 --> 02:15:18,520
deferral motion. Anyone want to speak? To the deferral motion,

1810
02:15:18,520 --> 02:15:22,950
Councilor Smith. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I guess I have

1811
02:15:22,950 --> 02:15:26,727
a question back to. My fellow counselor, when you talk

1812
02:15:26,727 --> 02:15:29,807
about deferral bothers me, but are you deferring? It to

1813
02:15:29,807 --> 02:15:32,167
the next council meeting? Or are you saying let's do

1814
02:15:32,167 --> 02:15:35,065
it in the fall. With respect, I think that would

1815
02:15:35,065 --> 02:15:42,301
be up to staff. As to how quickly. They can

1816
02:15:42,301 --> 02:15:44,701
turn this around. Yes, through the mayor. Be appreciative. If

1817
02:15:44,701 --> 02:15:48,021
we could do. This after the summer recess. Bring it

1818
02:15:48,021 --> 02:15:51,476
back in the fall. My reports for the next council

1819
02:15:51,476 --> 02:15:55,316
meeting are due today. I don't see any urgency for

1820
02:15:55,316 --> 02:16:00,264
this. And I certainly want you to take the time,

1821
02:16:00,264 --> 02:16:01,704
you and your staff to take the time and do

1822
02:16:01,704 --> 02:16:04,544
it properly. Appreciate, I think that that's probably the best

1823
02:16:04,544 --> 02:16:08,394
course of action. So are we then approving everything else

1824
02:16:08,394 --> 02:16:14,590
except for this particular one item? Okay. Thank you. Anyone

1825
02:16:14,590 --> 02:16:19,090
else want to speak to deferral motion? Can we put

1826
02:16:19,090 --> 02:16:25,243
the deferral motion up? So. The main motion be amended

1827
02:16:25,243 --> 02:16:27,843
to defer item three c until such time as stepping

1828
02:16:27,843 --> 02:16:31,405
forward a report providing additional clarification. So we're going to

1829
02:16:31,405 --> 02:16:32,565
vote on the deferral, and then we'll vote. On the

1830
02:16:32,565 --> 02:16:37,133
main motion. Council. Sherben, are you still wanting to second

1831
02:16:37,133 --> 02:16:40,173
the deferral? No. Thank you. And. Mr. Mayor, can I

1832
02:16:40,173 --> 02:16:44,495
get a recorded vote on both? You absolutely can. So,

1833
02:16:44,495 --> 02:16:47,535
who would like to second the deferral motion? Councilor Barley.

1834
02:16:47,535 --> 02:16:50,935
Thank you. And councilor Shiman has called for a recorded

1835
02:16:50,935 --> 02:16:55,441
vote. Madam Clerk, over to you. As councilor Sherman has

1836
02:16:55,441 --> 02:16:57,281
requested her credit vote. I will go through each member

1837
02:16:57,281 --> 02:17:00,872
of council, starting with Councilor Sherbin. If when I call

1838
02:17:00,872 --> 02:17:03,752
your name, you can. Please advise how you vote, Councilor

1839
02:17:03,752 --> 02:17:07,026
Sherban. Can you do that again? We'll just get you.

1840
02:17:07,026 --> 02:17:16,441
Thank you. Get you on. No. Councilor smith. Yes.

1841
02:17:18,991 --> 02:17:28,530
Councilor upton. No. Councilor Octon. No.

1842
02:17:31,797 --> 02:17:41,066
Councilor Bartley. Yes. Councilor Croon. Yes. Mayor Lovett. Yes.

1843
02:17:44,264 --> 02:17:47,024
Motion carries. That's just on the deferral. Motion. On the

1844
02:17:47,024 --> 02:17:48,864
deferral. Now. We're going to vote on the main motion.

1845
02:17:50,997 --> 02:17:53,237
And the main motion was moved by councilor Sherband and

1846
02:17:53,237 --> 02:17:56,477
seconded by councilor. Barley. Just checking. Councilor Sherman, you're still

1847
02:17:56,477 --> 02:18:00,157
wanting to move the motion? No. Okay, so. You'll move

1848
02:18:00,157 --> 02:18:02,077
the motion, councilor barley. Is there second or for the

1849
02:18:02,077 --> 02:18:08,503
motion, councilor? Smith. And this is a recorded vote as

1850
02:18:08,503 --> 02:18:16,756
well. As it was Councillor Sherman who once again requested

1851
02:18:16,756 --> 02:18:19,956
a recorded vote. We'll start with her. And go alphabetic

1852
02:18:19,956 --> 02:18:28,121
order from there. Councilor Sherman. No. Councilor smith.

1853
02:18:30,607 --> 02:18:33,574
Yes. Okay. Can you put your mic on? Can you

1854
02:18:33,574 --> 02:18:42,657
put your mic on? Yes, thank you. Councilor Opton. No.

1855
02:18:44,853 --> 02:18:52,466
That was. No, thank you, Councilor Octen. No. Councilor? Partly.

1856
02:18:52,954 --> 02:18:59,604
That was. Yes. Councilor Croon. Yes. Mayor. Love it.

1857
02:19:04,076 --> 02:19:14,030
Motion carries. On to our. Oh, sorry. There's

1858
02:19:14,030 --> 02:19:18,510
one item. 10.4. Correspondence from Simcoe County. Greenbelt coalition regarding

1859
02:19:18,510 --> 02:19:21,230
concerns regarding the expansion of strong mayor powers under Oreg

1860
02:19:21,230 --> 02:19:25,230
530 22. This was pulled by Councilor Upton. Is there

1861
02:19:25,230 --> 02:19:29,586
a secondary to receive this? Councilor Sherband. Thank you. Call

1862
02:19:29,586 --> 02:19:31,724
the question. Just to receive.

1863
02:19:42,983 --> 02:19:47,423
Okay, it's carried. First item on our consent agenda is

1864
02:19:47,423 --> 02:19:51,503
item 9.3, cs three. Two five, Aurora war memorial. It's

1865
02:19:51,503 --> 02:19:59,073
moved by councilor croon and second by. Councilor Sherband. Thank

1866
02:19:59,073 --> 02:20:01,285
you. Councilor koon over to you. Thank you very much.

1867
02:20:03,124 --> 02:20:06,804
There we go. Thank you very much, Mr. Mayor. I

1868
02:20:06,804 --> 02:20:13,107
have your brain fart here. When is the 100th anniversary?

1869
02:20:14,801 --> 02:20:17,441
Krista, if you could just. What is the date of

1870
02:20:17,441 --> 02:20:21,083
the event? October the third. Okay, I should know that.

1871
02:20:22,711 --> 02:20:26,111
So I want to thank Krista and Melissa and all

1872
02:20:26,111 --> 02:20:30,828
the staff at the museum. For all their work involving

1873
02:20:30,828 --> 02:20:34,228
us in this. As we know, this is a very

1874
02:20:34,228 --> 02:20:40,125
important celebration of this monument. Which is in Aurora, unfortunately.

1875
02:20:40,125 --> 02:20:42,685
But it used to be witchards Township at one time,

1876
02:20:42,685 --> 02:20:46,405
but it does recognize veterans of the first world War.

1877
02:20:47,812 --> 02:20:51,492
Of Witchers Township. And King Township and a town of

1878
02:20:51,492 --> 02:20:55,252
Aurora, and it has been expanded to the Second World

1879
02:20:55,252 --> 02:20:57,812
War. And the Korean War. But it is a very

1880
02:20:57,812 --> 02:21:03,904
important monument and one that. We are due and required

1881
02:21:03,904 --> 02:21:09,653
to celebrate in deference. To our veterans and those who

1882
02:21:09,653 --> 02:21:14,166
have given the supreme sacrifice and done so much. At

1883
02:21:14,166 --> 02:21:19,361
the same time the town has commissioned. A veteran banner

1884
02:21:19,361 --> 02:21:25,495
expert panel, which includes some members of the public. Representatives

1885
02:21:25,495 --> 02:21:30,190
of the legion and random counselor who. Has been examining.

1886
02:21:31,613 --> 02:21:33,533
The names of not only the individuals who are on.

1887
02:21:36,089 --> 02:21:39,489
The monument, but also those who will be recognized in

1888
02:21:39,489 --> 02:21:45,365
our banner program, which will start during November. In remembrance

1889
02:21:45,365 --> 02:21:47,485
week, and I want to thank again the staff who

1890
02:21:47,485 --> 02:21:51,449
involved and the members of the public. Who've done this

1891
02:21:51,449 --> 02:21:56,811
important work to recognize. To properly recognize all of those

1892
02:21:56,811 --> 02:22:01,103
individuals who. Are named on there. Unfortunately, there were some

1893
02:22:01,103 --> 02:22:06,067
names that we felt didn't qualify. But we've also found

1894
02:22:06,067 --> 02:22:11,761
a few. That may have been missed or inappropriately remembered,

1895
02:22:11,761 --> 02:22:17,841
and that is important work that. Will continue. So again,

1896
02:22:17,841 --> 02:22:20,601
I want to thank staff for everything that you've done.

1897
02:22:20,601 --> 02:22:22,881
And as we get closer to it. They will provide

1898
02:22:22,881 --> 02:22:26,241
more information to the public and to members of council

1899
02:22:26,241 --> 02:22:28,561
and I've been happy to represent the town for the

1900
02:22:28,561 --> 02:22:34,268
last six years. At remembers day ceremonies in Aurora. And

1901
02:22:34,268 --> 02:22:38,497
it's a privilege that I take and responsibility that. I

1902
02:22:38,497 --> 02:22:42,573
take very powerfully. And on October the third, I invite

1903
02:22:42,573 --> 02:22:45,333
all members of council to come on out to this

1904
02:22:45,333 --> 02:22:47,733
important celebration. And, of course, all members of the public.

1905
02:22:47,733 --> 02:22:49,173
So again, thank you, staff, for all the work. That

1906
02:22:49,173 --> 02:22:53,693
you've done. And unfortunately, it's only the beginning. But thank

1907
02:22:53,693 --> 02:22:58,420
you again. Thank you. Councilor. Yeah. This is a report

1908
02:22:58,420 --> 02:23:01,940
to receive. For information, please put October 3 in. Your

1909
02:23:01,940 --> 02:23:07,677
calendars. It's number of months away, hopefully. We can all

1910
02:23:07,677 --> 02:23:11,613
be there for. This important memorial. Okay, so it's moved

1911
02:23:11,613 --> 02:23:14,573
by councilor crew and second by councilor Sherben. The receiver

1912
02:23:14,573 --> 02:23:24,366
information. Call a question. It's

1913
02:23:24,366 --> 02:23:28,606
carried. Next item is 9.8. Report fi nine two five.

1914
02:23:28,606 --> 02:23:33,046
A bylaw. To establish rates and levees taxes for 2025.

1915
02:23:33,046 --> 02:23:35,246
This is moved by councilor Crun. And second by councilor

1916
02:23:35,246 --> 02:23:44,023
Smith. Councilor crew. Sorry. There you go. Thank you again,

1917
02:23:44,023 --> 02:23:47,621
Mr. Mayor. Taxation and the collection of taxes is a

1918
02:23:47,621 --> 02:23:50,221
very important part of what we do, at least that's

1919
02:23:50,221 --> 02:23:52,661
what Jeremy tells me, because that's what pays the bills.

1920
02:23:54,912 --> 02:23:58,792
And we know that tax rates need to be set

1921
02:23:58,792 --> 02:24:03,108
year to year. So that the residents have an expectation

1922
02:24:03,108 --> 02:24:06,268
of knowing what they pay and that they are paying

1923
02:24:06,268 --> 02:24:11,585
for. Their appropriate services. Unfortunately. There's a charge that's buried

1924
02:24:11,585 --> 02:24:17,002
in this report, the annual stormwater charge. And the report

1925
02:24:17,002 --> 02:24:23,063
proposes that it would be expanded. Beyond. The current pays,

1926
02:24:23,063 --> 02:24:28,291
which are people who receive. Water bills and expanded to

1927
02:24:28,291 --> 02:24:34,218
every landowner in town. As Kimberingham spoke to and in

1928
02:24:34,218 --> 02:24:38,137
regards to my comments as well. That is not without

1929
02:24:38,137 --> 02:24:43,257
its challenges in the rural areas. And I think that

1930
02:24:43,257 --> 02:24:45,657
that part of it needs to be deferred until staff.

1931
02:24:47,771 --> 02:24:52,291
Works department in conjunction with finance, comes back with a

1932
02:24:52,291 --> 02:24:57,430
more robust sort of. Description of what the cost should

1933
02:24:57,430 --> 02:25:03,741
be. So, Mr. Commissioner of works. I believe that you

1934
02:25:03,741 --> 02:25:08,411
have agreed. The staff will do a report. But to

1935
02:25:08,411 --> 02:25:11,371
phase it so that the urban portion of it comes

1936
02:25:11,371 --> 02:25:15,653
back a little bit quicker. Or more expediently than perhaps

1937
02:25:15,653 --> 02:25:17,373
the rural areas, because I think the rural areas are

1938
02:25:17,373 --> 02:25:20,693
going to take some deep dives to have an understanding

1939
02:25:20,693 --> 02:25:25,270
of what is an appropriate charge for stormwater management. Through

1940
02:25:25,270 --> 02:25:30,527
the mayor to councilor croon at the present time. There

1941
02:25:30,527 --> 02:25:33,727
is no identified capital project for the storm rate study.

1942
02:25:33,727 --> 02:25:38,047
However, following council's direction today, staff will be putting that

1943
02:25:38,047 --> 02:25:44,010
forward. And as part of that analysis, you are correct.

1944
02:25:45,470 --> 02:25:50,783
In that. The impact of the stormwater management is greater

1945
02:25:50,783 --> 02:25:54,343
in the urban area of the town than in the

1946
02:25:54,343 --> 02:26:00,225
rural areas. And so there's no objection to a prioritization

1947
02:26:00,225 --> 02:26:05,007
in doing a fulsome rate study. But particularly focusing on

1948
02:26:05,007 --> 02:26:09,090
the urban area of the town. Thank you, Mr. Commissioner.

1949
02:26:09,090 --> 02:26:17,192
So, Mr. Mayor. With your permission. I would like to

1950
02:26:17,192 --> 02:26:22,792
defer that part. Of the report or the resolution. For

1951
02:26:22,792 --> 02:26:27,372
the annual stonewater management fee. So just leave the way

1952
02:26:27,372 --> 02:26:31,543
it is right now. Madam Clerk, you sent me. A

1953
02:26:31,543 --> 02:26:33,223
wording for that, but I've got so many emails. In

1954
02:26:33,223 --> 02:26:35,423
the meantime, I can't. Find it, so we'll get it

1955
02:26:35,423 --> 02:26:37,863
up on the screen before we do that. We have

1956
02:26:37,863 --> 02:26:44,785
another speaker. Anyway, so. That would be my proposal. Okay.

1957
02:26:44,785 --> 02:26:47,225
Thank you, councilor. Can we pull that down? Thanks, councilor.

1958
02:26:47,225 --> 02:26:52,430
Smith. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'm not going to repeat

1959
02:26:52,430 --> 02:26:57,070
all the things that Councilor Krune has indicated. I'm absolutely

1960
02:26:57,070 --> 02:27:00,230
supporting. And my only comment was I was quite frankly

1961
02:27:00,230 --> 02:27:06,637
surprised that this item got tucked in with. The. Tax

1962
02:27:06,637 --> 02:27:09,397
levies, et cetera, et cetera. So I'm supportive of this,

1963
02:27:09,397 --> 02:27:14,706
and you can. Do a further study. Come back sometime

1964
02:27:14,706 --> 02:27:18,616
in the future as to how. This whole thing will

1965
02:27:18,616 --> 02:27:24,722
work its way through. But I'm absolutely. Supporting. The deferral

1966
02:27:24,722 --> 02:27:30,219
or the removal entirely of 3.2. Okay. Thank you, Madam

1967
02:27:30,219 --> 02:27:40,175
Clerk. Please put the amendment up. Okay, so

1968
02:27:40,175 --> 02:27:43,015
it's received for information or. Sorry, it's bring forward a

1969
02:27:43,015 --> 02:27:45,575
bila. To establish the rates and levees, and then this

1970
02:27:45,575 --> 02:27:50,944
addition. Should be the amendment. Okay, let's go with the

1971
02:27:50,944 --> 02:28:00,241
mover, and second, we'll call a question. Okay. Carrie's and

1972
02:28:00,241 --> 02:28:02,361
then we'll vote on the main motion moved by councilor.

1973
02:28:02,361 --> 02:28:08,191
Crew second by Councilor Smith. That's Carrie two. Okay, on

1974
02:28:08,191 --> 02:28:10,271
the bylaws, there are seven sets of bylaws. We're pulling

1975
02:28:10,271 --> 02:28:14,911
bylaw 12.6, which is the bylaw, to establish these. Fees

1976
02:28:14,911 --> 02:28:23,061
because. They'll be moved. And second, as amended, any questions

1977
02:28:23,061 --> 02:28:28,959
on the bylaws? So. Twelve, 12345 and seven. We're dealing

1978
02:28:28,959 --> 02:28:33,583
with Kymu and seconder, please. By councilor Acton. Second by

1979
02:28:33,583 --> 02:28:35,663
councilor Bartley. All those in favor?

1980
02:28:47,954 --> 02:28:52,514
That's carried in item 12.6 would be as amended, moved

1981
02:28:52,514 --> 02:28:56,314
by councilor Bartley. Second by councilor Acton. All those in

1982
02:28:56,314 --> 02:29:05,817
favor? As carried. Okay. Does anyone have any new other

1983
02:29:05,817 --> 02:29:14,095
business this afternoon? Not seeing any. I don't have anything.

1984
02:29:16,122 --> 02:29:20,082
So closed session. We have only the minutes. Does anyone

1985
02:29:20,082 --> 02:29:22,202
have any questions on the minutes? So we don't need

1986
02:29:22,202 --> 02:29:24,880
to go into closed. Come over in second or please,

1987
02:29:24,880 --> 02:29:27,240
for the minutes moved by councilor Shervan, second by. Councilor

1988
02:29:27,240 --> 02:29:30,600
Acton. The minutes be approved is circulated. All those in

1989
02:29:30,600 --> 02:29:38,649
favor? Councilor Smith, can you vote?

1990
02:29:41,904 --> 02:29:47,538
Thank you. No problem. That's carried. Mover and sacrifice confirmatory

1991
02:29:47,538 --> 02:29:50,498
bylaw. Move by councilor Upton, second by councilor Smith. All

1992
02:29:50,498 --> 02:29:53,618
those in favor? His hands is fine. That's carried. And

1993
02:29:53,618 --> 02:29:55,978
motion to adjourn. This afternoon's meeting moved by councilor Bartley,

1994
02:29:55,978 --> 02:30:00,642
seconded by councilor Sherband. All those in favor? As carried.

1995
02:30:00,642 --> 02:30:03,522
Okay. We have a planning meeting tonight. 07:00 all are

1996
02:30:03,522 --> 02:30:04,282
welcome. See you then.