1 00:00:54,830 --> 00:01:24,130 Thank you very much, Madam Clerk. Members of council and members of the public, thank you for joining us here. This is our special council meeting. It's a planning public meeting, and today's date, of course, is August 26, 2026, where has the summer gone? It is now 530 p.m., and so council is going to commence with our special council meeting. And we do have two very important items on here tonight, and we will get to those shortly. 2 00:01:24,130 --> 00:01:28,830 We have some members in the audience as well tonight, so we welcome that as always. 3 00:01:29,490 --> 00:01:34,350 So members of Council, I do want to acknowledge that Councilor Belen does send his regrets 4 00:01:34,350 --> 00:01:34,730 tonight. 5 00:01:34,730 --> 00:01:38,890 He's unable to attend, but I'm sure he will watch this meeting at another time to catch 6 00:01:38,890 --> 00:01:40,530 himself up on the content. 7 00:01:41,390 --> 00:01:44,270 Council, at this time, we're going to look at our approval of the agenda, be it resolved 8 00:01:44,270 --> 00:01:48,050 the Council of the Attentions, be cleared to be here by approve the agenda dated August 9 00:01:48,050 --> 00:01:49,510 August 26th, 2026. 10 00:01:49,950 --> 00:01:54,430 As presented, mover, Mr. MacArthur, Mr. Barodarek, thank you very much. 11 00:01:54,770 --> 00:01:55,850 Any questions on the agenda? 12 00:01:57,230 --> 00:01:58,830 Seeing none, I'll call the motion all in favor. 13 00:01:59,470 --> 00:02:00,870 That carries unanimous, thank you. 14 00:02:01,470 --> 00:02:06,810 At this time, I'll ask for council, is there any declarations of pecuniary interest in regards to the items on today's agenda? 15 00:02:07,690 --> 00:02:10,650 Seeing none, if anything comes up during the meeting, please bring it forward at that time. 16 00:02:11,310 --> 00:02:14,010 So, council, we're going to move to our public meeting, which is item number three. 17 00:02:14,670 --> 00:02:25,730 We do have the first item that will be presented and proceeded by our deputy mayor, Paul Van Staffern, who will, of course, carry the meeting for the public meeting portion. 18 00:02:25,990 --> 00:02:28,970 So at this time, I'll turn the meeting over to Paul Van Staffern. 19 00:02:29,190 --> 00:02:29,410 Thank you. 20 00:02:29,850 --> 00:02:30,730 Thank you, Your Worship. 21 00:02:31,490 --> 00:02:35,550 And we will now initiate the public meeting portion of tonight's agenda. 22 00:02:35,970 --> 00:02:41,050 We invite you to comment on the applications being presented tonight and to engage the process with us. 23 00:02:41,050 --> 00:02:53,130 If you wish to be notified of the decision of the corporation of the Township Clearview on an application being discussed this evening, please complete a public delegation form and submit the form to the deputy clerk and our forms are sitting. 24 00:02:54,570 --> 00:02:57,490 I mean, you've got the move, there'll be over there, sitting ready, right, Emma? 25 00:02:57,830 --> 00:02:59,550 There we go, so I'm really wants to talk, really. 26 00:03:00,330 --> 00:03:09,010 The views expressed in the public comments are solely those of the individuals providing them and do not reflect the opinions of the township, its agents or its employees. 27 00:03:09,010 --> 00:03:14,910 It is not possible for the township to verify the accuracy of all information provided by members of the public. 28 00:03:15,430 --> 00:03:21,650 The township should therefore assume no responsibility for any inaccurate information that may be contained within the public comments. 29 00:03:22,050 --> 00:03:27,850 If you have information that might correct, clarify, or refute any statements contained within the public comments, 30 00:03:28,310 --> 00:03:30,450 please forward it to the township planning department. 31 00:03:30,990 --> 00:03:35,030 Please be advised that your comment or request be notified will form part of the public record. 32 00:03:35,030 --> 00:03:42,790 Your communication and any personal information therein will be made available to the public unless you expressly request its removal. 33 00:03:43,790 --> 00:04:00,990 If a person or public body would otherwise have an ability to appeal the decision of the township of Clearview to the Ontario Land Tribunal but the person or public body does not make an oral submission at a public meeting or make a written submission before the proposed official plan or zoning by-law amendment is adopted or passed. 34 00:04:00,990 --> 00:04:05,570 The person or public body is not entitled to appeal to the decision. 35 00:04:10,660 --> 00:04:14,480 If a person or public body does not make oral submission at a public meeting or 36 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,820 make written submission to the Township Clearview before the proposed official 37 00:04:18,820 --> 00:04:24,580 plan or zoning by-law amendment is adopted or passed, the person or public body may 38 00:04:24,580 --> 00:04:29,280 not be added as a party to the hearing of an appeal for the For the Ontario Land Tribunal. 39 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,480 Unless it's in the opinion of the Tribunal, there are reasonable grounds to add the 40 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,500 a person or public body as a party. 41 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,820 The following public meeting will involve a brief presentation by our planning staff, 42 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:44,800 an opportunity for the applicant or their agent to present their application, a period 43 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:49,080 for public comment or questions and an opportunity for questions by the planning committee. 44 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:55,620 So we will now begin the public meeting with respect to item 3.1, zoning by-law amendment 45 00:04:55,620 --> 00:04:59,440 for file 2026-0303. 46 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:08,300 The applicant is the vendor and the very sendo and is regarding property located at 793-273 County Road 124 in Clearview. 47 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,540 And our planning staff will now start with a brief presentation concerning the application. 48 00:05:13,180 --> 00:05:14,960 I believe it's Nick, you're the man tonight. 49 00:05:15,740 --> 00:05:17,320 All yours, go ahead. 50 00:05:17,660 --> 00:05:18,340 Thank you, Chair. 51 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,500 As indicated, my name is Nick Amley. 52 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,660 I'm a community planner here at the Township Clearview. 53 00:05:22,660 --> 00:05:24,960 and I'm here to facilitate or assist in facilitating 54 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,100 tonight's public meeting for zoning by-law amendment 55 00:05:27,100 --> 00:05:30,200 application, 2026 and ZB09. 56 00:05:31,540 --> 00:05:32,660 This is a bit of a housekeeping. 57 00:05:32,940 --> 00:05:34,880 I'm going to provide a bit more of a high level overview 58 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,120 of my presentation. 59 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,420 We'll provide the application with the applicant 60 00:05:39,420 --> 00:05:40,360 that they're going to solve and providing 61 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:41,620 at brief presentation following. 62 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:43,500 Following both presentations, 63 00:05:43,540 --> 00:05:44,920 I'll be available to answer any questions 64 00:05:45,540 --> 00:05:47,000 from Councilor and members of the public. 65 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:49,660 Next slide. 66 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:50,140 Oh, perfect. 67 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:52,040 Subject lands themselves. 68 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,240 as well as located in the southwestern portion of the township. 69 00:05:55,460 --> 00:05:59,360 They located just north of Kay Road 9 and south of 6-7 side road. 70 00:05:59,820 --> 00:06:05,960 They maintained frontage on the Kay Road 124 and just to note that they are directly west 71 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:10,880 of the subject lands is the boundary with Miss Validia Gray Highlands, with county road 72 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,240 124 being that boundary. 73 00:06:13,900 --> 00:06:14,640 Next slide. 74 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:20,940 The purpose of the zoning by-law amendment application that's currently before Council tonight seeks 75 00:06:20,940 --> 00:06:29,980 It seeks to amend the zoning on a portion of the subject lands presently zone as air cultural to an air culture related industrial exception zone to an AGI exception zone. 76 00:06:30,380 --> 00:06:35,440 The request to exceptions of that exception zone seek to alter the following provisions of the zoning by law. 77 00:06:35,820 --> 00:06:50,720 So they seek to limit or restrict the uses on that portion lands to be re-zoned strictly to a flower mill facility use as well as add the following additional alter provision which be the combined total minimum parking space requirement for the air cultural related use. 78 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:55,480 i.e. the flower mill is 19 spaces, which includes one barrier-free parking space. 79 00:06:56,260 --> 00:07:00,640 The effect of the application is to emit a flower mill facility as an air-culture-related 80 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,700 use on the subject lands with site-specific provisions. 81 00:07:04,740 --> 00:07:05,500 Next slide. 82 00:07:06,500 --> 00:07:10,620 As a part of the complete application package that was submitted, I believe in late June, 83 00:07:11,020 --> 00:07:13,980 the applicant did submit a number of additional materials. 84 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:19,720 This included cover letter, a conceptual site plan of the reposal, a plan investigation 85 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:26,120 report, a draft zoning by-law, a traffic opinion letter, hydrogeological confirmation letter, 86 00:07:26,740 --> 00:07:31,120 permit drawings of the building itself, as well as a conceptual landscape plan. 87 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,040 This material can be viewed online. 88 00:07:33,940 --> 00:07:34,640 Next slide. 89 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,420 This is an aerial imagery of the subject lands. 90 00:07:40,380 --> 00:07:43,220 In terms of surrounding land uses, it's primarily air cultural, so 91 00:07:43,220 --> 00:07:45,860 air cultural residential uses and mainly air cultural. 92 00:07:45,860 --> 00:07:52,800 as indicated directly to the west is the Miss Valley Gray Highlands and again mainly agriculture uses on those portions of the lands. 93 00:07:53,600 --> 00:08:01,320 The subject lands are primarily used for agriculture use themselves, primarily cash crop. There is one existing single-touch dwelling as well as an agricultural building. 94 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:07,060 And within the southwest and corner of the property there is also a kind of a forested treat area. 95 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,720 Next slide. In terms of official planned policy as well as zoning 96 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,120 by-law policy. The subject lands are designated hold these air 97 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,540 cultural within the township of Clearview's official plan document. They are 98 00:08:19,540 --> 00:08:24,660 zoned air cultural as well as environmental protection. The EP zone is limited 99 00:08:24,660 --> 00:08:28,400 more to the forested area in the southwestern corner of the site and there is a 100 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,480 small portion of the frontage of the property that is regulated by the 101 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:38,360 conservation authority as well. Next slide. In terms of notice and circulation this 102 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,240 was given in accordance with the Planning Act. This is completed in August 103 00:08:41,820 --> 00:08:51,620 It was done via mailing notification to all properties within 120 meters of the subject lands, as well as posting a notification signage on the frontage of the property. 104 00:08:52,680 --> 00:09:03,580 Details of applications for your trails have been made available to the public, so they are available online to view under current our current project's website, and have also been circulated relevant commenting agencies and internal departments. 105 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:10,280 In terms of public comments, so all comments that have received prior to the current agenda 106 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:16,320 deadline for tonight's meeting were appended to the agenda, sort of public media agenda, 107 00:09:16,740 --> 00:09:21,060 believe under appendix E. In any comments that are received this evening or following that, 108 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,840 we'll form part of my pending recommendation report on the application. 109 00:09:25,740 --> 00:09:26,060 Next slide. 110 00:09:27,300 --> 00:09:33,360 In terms of overall review process, the application was received on June 28th, 2026, I should 111 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:34,440 I wouldn't say that's some typo. 112 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,500 It was deemed complete on July 15th. 113 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,480 Notice was given on August 5th, and tonight is the public meeting. 114 00:09:41,060 --> 00:09:44,120 Following tonight's public meeting, we will bring a recommendation report and 115 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,700 bail back to a subsequent council meeting for approval. 116 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,580 And then here's my contact information for anyone in the audience or 117 00:09:52,580 --> 00:09:56,220 viewing online, if they wanted any questions that should contact me, please feel free to. 118 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:57,060 Thank you. 119 00:09:57,420 --> 00:09:58,860 Thank you very much, Nick. 120 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:04,400 So I believe, Amy Pellie, you'll be presenting on behalf of the applicants tonight. 121 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:10,020 Yes, or general, she's all yours. 122 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,420 Bill, you'll be just telling them to advance your screen as you request. 123 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:23,500 Awesome, thank you. 124 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,360 Good evening, Mr. Mayor, members of Council. 125 00:10:27,660 --> 00:10:31,200 My name is Carly Murphy, and I'm a planner with Powell Planning and Associates, 126 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:39,180 retained by the landowner of 793-273 County Road 124 to evaluate the merits of a zoning bylaw amendment application. 127 00:10:40,220 --> 00:10:40,920 Next slide, please. 128 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:55,190 So this evening, this presentation will introduce the zoning bylaw amendment application as well as the subject applications consistency and conformity with both provincial and municipal policies. 129 00:10:56,050 --> 00:10:56,850 Next slide, please. 130 00:10:58,790 --> 00:11:10,310 The purpose of this presentation is really to provide an overview of the subject application, which seeks planning approval to permit a flower mill facility as an agricultural related views on the subject lands. 131 00:11:10,310 --> 00:11:16,970 And then I'll provide an overview of the comprehensive, provincial, county, and municipal policy analysis that was undertaken. 132 00:11:17,670 --> 00:11:18,450 Next slide, please. 133 00:11:20,530 --> 00:11:23,770 So the subject, the answer, designated agricultural and 134 00:11:23,770 --> 00:11:26,650 zoned agricultural and environmental protection zone. 135 00:11:27,250 --> 00:11:33,430 There's an existing dwelling in a farm building on the property and the lands are used primarily for agricultural uses. 136 00:11:34,090 --> 00:11:40,270 The surrounding areas also predominantly used for agricultural uses with a wooded area located to the west. 137 00:11:40,270 --> 00:11:41,830 Next slide, please. 138 00:11:44,350 --> 00:11:50,050 The proposed flower mill facility is considered an agricultural related use and that's permitted 139 00:11:50,050 --> 00:11:54,590 in the agricultural designation, subject to the passing of zoning bylaw amendment. 140 00:11:55,190 --> 00:12:00,490 The subject application therefore proposes to rezone a portion of the property from agricultural 141 00:12:01,150 --> 00:12:07,750 to agricultural related industrial exception zone specifically to permit the flower mill facility 142 00:12:07,750 --> 00:12:09,650 as a site-specific permitted use. 143 00:12:09,650 --> 00:12:11,170 Next slide, please. 144 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,120 So a comprehensive policy analysis was undertaken 145 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,840 of applicable planning legislation and provincial, 146 00:12:20,100 --> 00:12:24,440 municipal and county policies, which is also further detailed in the planning 147 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,300 justification report that was submitted with the application. 148 00:12:28,300 --> 00:12:28,920 Next slide, please. 149 00:12:32,020 --> 00:12:35,760 The subject application is regard for provincial interest center of the planning act, 150 00:12:35,860 --> 00:12:38,880 which include protecting prime agricultural resources. 151 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:45,060 The proposed fire mill facility is supported by provincial policy as the proposed use helps 152 00:12:45,060 --> 00:12:50,660 to protect prime agricultural areas while also supporting economic opportunities to the 153 00:12:50,660 --> 00:12:54,660 agricultural sector as a compatible agricultural related use. 154 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:56,300 Next slide, please. 155 00:12:58,900 --> 00:13:04,560 Agricultural related uses are also permitted within prime agricultural areas under the provincial 156 00:13:04,560 --> 00:13:05,560 planning statement. 157 00:13:05,560 --> 00:13:16,080 The proposed Flyer Mill facility supports the diversification of agricultural uses while protecting the agricultural land base and environmental features on the subject lands. 158 00:13:16,700 --> 00:13:29,600 Overall, the application supports a healthy and viable rural area in the township and the county and the continued preservation and enhancement of the agricultural system, which is consistent with the policies of the PPS. 159 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,280 Next slide, please. 160 00:13:34,510 --> 00:13:39,090 The subject application also conforms with the Simco County Official Plan Policies. 161 00:13:39,470 --> 00:13:45,590 The lands remain protected for long-term agricultural use by keeping them within the agricultural designation. 162 00:13:46,090 --> 00:13:55,790 Well, the proposed agricultural related use supports the agricultural sector and helps diversify the county's agricultural economy. 163 00:13:56,710 --> 00:13:57,370 Next slide, please. 164 00:13:57,370 --> 00:13:58,430 The 165 00:14:00,610 --> 00:14:08,910 townships official plan policies permit agricultural related uses which are consistent with provincial and county policies as well. 166 00:14:09,290 --> 00:14:21,490 The proposed flower mill facility will directly provide farm related products in area as its primary activity while being compatible with the surrounding agricultural operations to the subject lands. 167 00:14:21,490 --> 00:14:30,850 The establishment of agricultural related uses is encouraged to support the continued viability and long-term sustainability of the agricultural sector. 168 00:14:31,490 --> 00:14:39,790 The proposed flower mill facility can be permitted through site-specific zoning bylaw amendment and conformity with the policies of the official plan. 169 00:14:40,510 --> 00:14:41,270 Next slide, please. 170 00:14:41,270 --> 00:14:54,980 The zoning bylaw amendment application is therefore being brought forward to ensure that there's zoning compliance in accordance with the existing direction of the official plan for agriculture related uses. 171 00:14:54,980 --> 00:14:59,980 The subject application proposes to rezone the portion of the list. 172 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:16,020 Agricultural to agriculture, leave related industrial exception zone to permit the fire mill facility as a site specific use, as well as establish the parking requirements. All other applicable zoning provisions are complied with. Next slide, please. 173 00:15:16,020 --> 00:15:24,510 A careful analysis concludes that the application is supported by provincial, county, and 174 00:15:24,510 --> 00:15:26,110 municipal policy direction. 175 00:15:26,730 --> 00:15:32,850 It maintains the agricultural designation and protects the agricultural resources of the province, the county and 176 00:15:32,850 --> 00:15:38,950 the township, while also supporting the viability and long-term sustainability of the agricultural sector. 177 00:15:39,550 --> 00:15:42,490 The subject application is consistent with the PPS. 178 00:15:42,850 --> 00:15:46,130 It conforms to the county and the township's official plan policies. 179 00:15:46,130 --> 00:15:49,510 and it respects the standards of the zoning bylaw. 180 00:15:49,910 --> 00:15:52,990 The subject application ultimately represents good planning 181 00:15:52,990 --> 00:15:54,850 that's in the best interest of the public. 182 00:15:56,550 --> 00:15:59,630 And thank you, and I'm happy to address any questions 183 00:15:59,630 --> 00:16:02,190 that Mayor and members of Council may have. 184 00:16:02,790 --> 00:16:03,690 Thank you, Carly. 185 00:16:03,970 --> 00:16:04,990 First, I want to apologize. 186 00:16:05,190 --> 00:16:06,990 I might notice it said that Amy was going to be 187 00:16:06,990 --> 00:16:09,830 doing the presentation and had her name on it, 188 00:16:09,850 --> 00:16:10,990 so but anyway, so my apologies. 189 00:16:11,390 --> 00:16:11,870 That's okay. 190 00:16:13,830 --> 00:16:15,770 Anyways, if you don't mind just staying there 191 00:16:15,770 --> 00:16:18,910 because we can ask, we can ask questions and HF sort of thing. 192 00:16:19,070 --> 00:16:25,550 Is there anybody in the audience who would make, who would like to make a comment, ask a question or address committee with respect to this application? 193 00:16:26,230 --> 00:16:33,110 Questions may be directed to or responded to by the applicant, their agent, their staff, but should be addressed through the chair, that's me. 194 00:16:33,670 --> 00:16:36,070 Please remember to complete and submit your delegation form. 195 00:16:36,390 --> 00:16:38,070 Is there anybody who wishes to ask questions? 196 00:16:38,950 --> 00:16:44,110 Go on once, anybody want to ask questions, place, three times, no public questions. 197 00:16:44,110 --> 00:16:47,330 I'll go to our council next to the members of our committee. 198 00:16:48,010 --> 00:16:50,370 Councillor Walker, I'll start at your end this time. 199 00:16:50,670 --> 00:16:51,550 Thank you, Mr. Chair. 200 00:16:52,590 --> 00:16:59,350 Mr. Cobble, first of all, I'm looking at the concept plan, and I see the driveway is highlighted 201 00:16:59,350 --> 00:17:00,510 inside the zone. 202 00:17:01,930 --> 00:17:09,370 Is there upgrades to that driveway to be made, and if so, who monitors that change with that environment 203 00:17:09,370 --> 00:17:10,190 of protection zone? 204 00:17:11,830 --> 00:17:13,070 Through you, Mr. Chair. 205 00:17:13,070 --> 00:17:19,690 We actually, there is a driveway extension proposed, but we actually did locate it outside 206 00:17:19,690 --> 00:17:26,830 of the environmental protection zone to ensure that it would comply with the zoning by-law. 207 00:17:28,250 --> 00:17:33,570 My next question is, I don't see anything on the concept plan again with regards to, 208 00:17:41,130 --> 00:17:42,350 or 209 00:17:42,350 --> 00:17:47,830 I will not take a lot of water, I just don't know, so I'm just asking about water in the subject. 210 00:17:48,270 --> 00:17:56,330 Through you, Mr. Chair, we did submit a hydrogeological report with the subject 211 00:17:56,330 --> 00:18:01,630 application that confirms that the existing well-capacity is sufficient support 212 00:18:01,630 --> 00:18:06,610 the proposed use, and that there would be no adverse impacts on local ground water 213 00:18:06,610 --> 00:18:08,750 resources or any neighboring wells. 214 00:18:08,750 --> 00:18:16,990 Thank you, Councillor Walker. Councillor Dunning. Thank you. I'll leave you to the end. 215 00:18:17,650 --> 00:18:22,770 You're going to get one of the last ones. Councillor Walker, that's great. Councillor MacArthur, 216 00:18:23,410 --> 00:18:26,070 I'm looking over there and thinking over here. Councillor MacArthur. 217 00:18:26,810 --> 00:18:32,910 Thank you, Chair. First, I don't see any silos or green bins in the concept plan. I'm just 218 00:18:32,910 --> 00:18:36,590 kind of wondering what the scale of the operation might be. 219 00:18:38,150 --> 00:18:54,610 Through you, Mr. Chair, the intent is to submit a site plan application following the zoning bylaw amendment if the zoning bylaw amendment is approved, which would basically detail the specific site designs in terms of scale. 220 00:18:57,310 --> 00:19:00,470 It's very, it's smaller scale. 221 00:19:00,730 --> 00:19:05,810 It's going to be an operation that's between the hours of 9 to 5, typically. 222 00:19:06,430 --> 00:19:11,750 On an 8-hour schedule, there will be a minimum of two employees on site at a time, 223 00:19:12,070 --> 00:19:13,350 max them the four employees. 224 00:19:14,090 --> 00:19:19,710 There will be limited traffic to the site, so it's a very small scale operation in terms 225 00:19:19,710 --> 00:19:22,390 of what could be on the lands. 226 00:19:22,390 --> 00:19:25,030 Okay, and yeah, you answered my second question then. 227 00:19:25,170 --> 00:19:29,330 You're saying two to four employees is what we're thinking right now. 228 00:19:29,590 --> 00:19:29,770 Yes. 229 00:19:30,010 --> 00:19:33,310 So 19 parking spots should be way more than enough. 230 00:19:33,870 --> 00:19:40,350 Yes, so the zoning by-law required quite a large amount of parking. 231 00:19:40,350 --> 00:19:43,410 When you look at it, I think it was something like 75 spaces. 232 00:19:44,090 --> 00:19:50,270 With speaking with the landowner, they just determined that they didn't need that many spaces. 233 00:19:50,270 --> 00:19:54,030 So we've accommodated two parking spaces for trucks. 234 00:19:54,970 --> 00:20:01,730 There should only be one truck used on a normal basis, but two spaces just in case they're required. 235 00:20:02,050 --> 00:20:06,690 As well as a barrier-free parking space, which would be required, and then the 19th 236 00:20:06,690 --> 00:20:12,310 spaces should be able to accommodate both employees and visitors in the instance that they're there. 237 00:20:12,830 --> 00:20:18,890 But it's not expected that this use would have very many visitors associated with it. 238 00:20:19,650 --> 00:20:20,830 Okay, thank you. 239 00:20:21,110 --> 00:20:21,490 Thank you. 240 00:20:21,950 --> 00:20:23,450 Councillor Broderick, any questions? 241 00:20:23,890 --> 00:20:24,150 Okay. 242 00:20:24,630 --> 00:20:25,390 You're worshiped. 243 00:20:25,470 --> 00:20:26,710 You get the second last question. 244 00:20:26,890 --> 00:20:27,070 Sure. 245 00:20:27,630 --> 00:20:30,250 I'm going to, if I may, I'd like to go to the staff. 246 00:20:30,970 --> 00:20:32,570 I'm going to steal a question from you. 247 00:20:33,350 --> 00:20:39,390 Only because I've been thinking about this too, that Paul brought up a good point just before the meeting from the king about. 248 00:20:39,390 --> 00:20:54,770 But our work to develop on-farm-proversified use, is this something that could be considered as part of an on-farm-proversified use if we were able to get the zoning bylaw enacted that included that? 249 00:20:55,670 --> 00:21:03,830 Is this what our text right now would show that, I'm asking either of the staff, go ahead through the change then, Mayor. 250 00:21:03,830 --> 00:21:10,250 So actually, it is not an honor for me to use, so it is identified an official plan as an air cultural related use. 251 00:21:10,570 --> 00:21:19,010 So there is a little bit of difference to it, and on from different side, doesn't necessarily need to be absolutely related. 252 00:21:19,330 --> 00:21:30,330 It's associated with, whereas an air culture related use, such as this, does have to relate specifically to the air culture use kind of on the property and to the surrounding area, so it would fall under that provision. 253 00:21:30,330 --> 00:21:34,990 And then that's why the AG Industrial Zone is being proposed for the property. 254 00:21:36,690 --> 00:21:42,750 And in terms of the official plan policies, it does permit a fellow male specifically through a minor by-law, 255 00:21:42,910 --> 00:21:45,030 which is currently being considered to see Nick. 256 00:21:45,570 --> 00:21:45,670 Right. 257 00:21:46,250 --> 00:21:51,790 The reason I'm thinking that it would only because given the property that's available, 258 00:21:52,570 --> 00:21:59,270 the amount of product that would be produced to run the mill, you're going to have to bring materials in to be processed. 259 00:21:59,270 --> 00:22:05,050 So this is going to be a processing or processed, driven agricultural use for sure. 260 00:22:05,490 --> 00:22:09,250 But it would be outside of what would normally be approved. 261 00:22:09,470 --> 00:22:13,550 So this proposal has good merits. 262 00:22:13,570 --> 00:22:20,410 I'm just concerned that if we move forward with our existing ideals to bring forward 263 00:22:20,410 --> 00:22:25,370 on-farm-diverse values, that this would already be approved. 264 00:22:25,370 --> 00:22:31,430 So, if you're suggesting as a planner that this is not an on-farm diversified 265 00:22:31,430 --> 00:22:36,270 use, this is an actual agricultural use and needs to be identified as such. 266 00:22:36,470 --> 00:22:40,090 Is that really the adjustment through the Chair? 267 00:22:40,510 --> 00:22:40,950 That's correct. 268 00:22:41,110 --> 00:22:45,430 So, in terms of the direction policy through the official plan document, it does identify 269 00:22:45,430 --> 00:22:49,250 it as being an air-cultured-related use, which is permitted through a site-specific 270 00:22:49,250 --> 00:22:52,990 amendment, which is the process we're kind of going for currently. 271 00:22:53,470 --> 00:23:00,270 In terms of the new zoning by-law process moving forward, it is possible that it had to review it if this type of use 272 00:23:00,270 --> 00:23:05,050 would be permitted as an as-of-right use under the air-cultural zone, specifically, not as an on-farm 273 00:23:05,050 --> 00:23:08,570 tourist vibe, but as its own air-cultural-related use in that. 274 00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:14,390 But at this point in time, without the implementation of the new zoning by-law document, the zoning 275 00:23:14,390 --> 00:23:15,550 by-law is required. 276 00:23:16,250 --> 00:23:22,010 Okay. If I may, one further ask, and that's just to come back, circle back to Councillor 277 00:23:22,010 --> 00:23:27,150 Walker's suggestion, the driveway obviously will have to be upgraded just to be clear to 278 00:23:27,150 --> 00:23:35,450 carry the amount of traffic, of inputs coming in and finish product going out. So certainly, 279 00:23:36,030 --> 00:23:41,550 the driver will have to be improved. It does appear in the EP and are mapping, so we would 280 00:23:41,550 --> 00:23:52,150 I want to make sure that that's associated with good conversation between our staff and your procedure to make sure that it is clearly outside of EP, okay? 281 00:23:52,610 --> 00:23:53,130 Is that comfortable? 282 00:23:54,210 --> 00:23:54,710 Everybody's good. 283 00:23:54,870 --> 00:23:55,170 Thank you. 284 00:23:55,310 --> 00:23:55,670 There you go. 285 00:23:55,870 --> 00:23:56,190 Thank you. 286 00:23:56,190 --> 00:23:57,710 You stole my thunder, but that's okay. 287 00:23:57,950 --> 00:23:59,190 No, you're doing a great job. 288 00:23:59,430 --> 00:23:59,630 I'll use. 289 00:24:00,710 --> 00:24:07,090 Carly, quick question, and I think we'll be doing with an official application, but do we have any concerns? 290 00:24:07,090 --> 00:24:13,330 And I know it's not a planning issue, but to talk about fire and explosion protection for a business like this. 291 00:24:13,450 --> 00:24:16,910 Are they concerned about that at all, or for the dust and stuff like that? 292 00:24:20,550 --> 00:24:26,030 There are more specific studies that are required, again, through the site plan application. 293 00:24:26,810 --> 00:24:32,630 At this time, we haven't submitted like a noise-odor dust type of study. 294 00:24:33,310 --> 00:24:36,690 I can pass it over to staff if that's okay, Nick. 295 00:24:37,310 --> 00:24:40,430 Was that identified as a requirement for a site plan application? 296 00:24:40,670 --> 00:24:42,270 I just can't remember off the top of my head. 297 00:24:43,310 --> 00:24:49,330 Yeah, so as indicated through the site plan approval process, we will review in greater detail the specifics of the proposal. 298 00:24:50,130 --> 00:24:55,070 And also I'd note through the building permit process in terms of the type of building use that's going in there. 299 00:24:55,070 --> 00:24:59,070 That will be assessed in terms of fire safety and a sort of sprinkler systems that are being acquired. 300 00:24:59,850 --> 00:25:02,290 So there's kind of two methods that we would be reviewing it under. 301 00:25:02,290 --> 00:25:03,250 Thank you. 302 00:25:03,490 --> 00:25:07,270 Having worked on a evening once upon a day, I know what dust can do, so I want to protect 303 00:25:07,270 --> 00:25:07,490 them. 304 00:25:08,790 --> 00:25:10,690 My next question is to the sand dunes. 305 00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:12,090 I'd like to ask them. 306 00:25:12,210 --> 00:25:17,570 I said, make sure, once you get this all done, that you get in touch with us, so we can have 307 00:25:17,570 --> 00:25:21,590 our economic development lady, Brian Kelly, and ourselves come and visit your place, because 308 00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:24,790 we love to come and visit, okay, so keep that in mind. 309 00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:27,010 We love coming to see what you're doing, so. 310 00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:44,220 I'm going to pour in you, there's going to a lot of people because 124 gets closed a lot of times in the winter, so you, 311 00:25:47,420 --> 00:25:50,900 okay, anyways, thank you very much for that, it's a great good job. 312 00:25:51,540 --> 00:26:07,100 Okay, this concludes this file, amended to file 2026-033 regarding property located, 793-273 County Road 124, we thank all who attended and provided comments for their interest in this matter. 313 00:26:07,100 --> 00:26:15,840 All input received with regards to this proposal will be fully considered by the staff and the recommendation and by council and their decision with respect to this application. 314 00:26:16,540 --> 00:26:23,000 Report regarding this proposal will be prepared for council who will make a decision concerning this matter at a future meeting. 315 00:26:23,540 --> 00:26:31,360 At this time, we do have another item to deal with, but I will be turning the chair back over to the mayor because he will be handling this portion of the meeting. 316 00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:33,740 All right, thank you very much, Deputy Mayor. 317 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:35,540 Excellent work, as always. 318 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,680 Thank you very much for returning the chair. 319 00:26:38,620 --> 00:26:45,880 Council, we do have the next item on our agenda item number four, which is a report called PV0342026. 320 00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:57,420 In regards to the ask from this council for the Stainer Settlement Area Boundary Expansion, phase one status update, we have our staff available to help us answer some questions. 321 00:26:58,020 --> 00:27:00,020 I believe we have a consultant on the line. 322 00:27:00,420 --> 00:27:03,640 There is. Hi there. Good to see you. I'm glad you're there. I knew you were there. 323 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:08,300 Is that two people on the line? Oh, there is. There's two. Excellent. All right. Nice to have you, 324 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:15,400 gentlemen. So, Derrick Abbott, our chief of this department, Derrick, I'm going to put it right 325 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,680 over to you to bring forward your presentation. 326 00:27:19,620 --> 00:27:27,160 Thank you, Your Worship. So, this report is as a result of mayoral decision 26-08. 327 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:42,780 So Council edits meeting on May 25th, 2026 earlier this year endorsed the Merrill decision, which asks Council to consider a two-phase approach to the Stainer's settlement area boundary expansion and a preferred boundary expansion area. 328 00:27:43,420 --> 00:27:54,800 And as a result of that, Council approved technical studies to commence immediately for the preferred boundary and that these technical studies be completed no later than 90 days from Council's approval. 329 00:27:54,800 --> 00:28:01,000 We have since reached our 90 days and are providing counsel with an update on the work 330 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:07,260 completed two dates and outlining where we are in the process as we move forwards towards 331 00:28:07,260 --> 00:28:12,720 our statutory public meeting, which is scheduled to be held on September 14th. 332 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:18,060 One thing I will emphasize that we are not asking counsel to make any decisions on the proposed 333 00:28:18,060 --> 00:28:23,100 amendment this evening, so the draft official plan amendment that was attached to my staff 334 00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:28,700 report remains in draft form and will continue to be informed by the technical work that's 335 00:28:28,700 --> 00:28:34,340 underway as well as any input we receive from the public agencies, indigenous communities, 336 00:28:35,060 --> 00:28:40,440 and Council through the consultation process. As you will note on the screen we do have 337 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:46,500 members of our consulting team with us and one that's here in attendance that is available 338 00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:51,800 to walk Council through a brief presentation on the work that's been completed to date and 339 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:57,840 and outline the next steps, so I would like to introduce, we have Steve Weaver and Patrick 340 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:04,580 Casey, both from GSP group, and off-camera but in attendance is Jeff Langwa from Burnside 341 00:29:04,580 --> 00:29:10,980 Engineering, who provide council with that representation that's on your screen now, and 342 00:29:10,980 --> 00:29:17,160 give a progress status update and be available for any questions the council may have, so 343 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,380 So further ado, Steve and Patrick, if floor is yours. 344 00:29:21,820 --> 00:29:23,140 Thank you very much, Derek. 345 00:29:24,340 --> 00:29:27,520 Steve, Patrick and Jeff, thank you for joining us. 346 00:29:28,260 --> 00:29:29,360 Who wants to lead this? 347 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:30,100 Is this you, Steve? 348 00:29:31,140 --> 00:29:33,120 Yes, I'll take the lead here, if you can hear me okay. 349 00:29:33,500 --> 00:29:34,400 Yes, go right ahead, sir. 350 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,220 We got you, go ahead. 351 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:36,160 Perfect. 352 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,940 Before you go, I apologize the error on the title slide is mine. 353 00:29:39,540 --> 00:29:42,160 For some reason I had council meeting Monday on my mind, 354 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,460 should say Wednesday, of course. 355 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:44,900 So I apologize for that. 356 00:29:44,900 --> 00:29:57,100 Good to correct the date there. Thanks Patrick. Yes, I'll kick things off and then I'll turn it over to Jeff to present some of the results of the servicing fees. 357 00:30:00,180 --> 00:30:29,960 Describe next steps. So thank you. The reason for the update tonight is outlined by your director is provide an update on the status of the studies that were directed by council resolution in May. And share with you the preliminary findings of those studies. And then, as I mentioned, talk about the next steps for the official plan amendment, OPA 4, as well as some related county official plan amendment. 358 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:30,760 considerations. 359 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:42,540 As mentioned, there were some studies discussed at the meeting on May 25th in terms of phase 360 00:30:42,540 --> 00:30:48,540 one of this process for the state or settlement area boundary expansion, with three key initiatives 361 00:30:48,540 --> 00:30:50,460 identified to support that. 362 00:30:51,420 --> 00:30:57,660 The first is a servicing feasibility study which Jeff and his team are focused on and will 363 00:30:57,660 --> 00:31:00,260 will be the subject of the next few slides. 364 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:07,180 The other is the agricultural impact assessment, which is a requirement of the provincial planning 365 00:31:07,180 --> 00:31:13,320 statement for settlement area boundary expansions, to demonstrate that any potential impacts 366 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:19,440 to agricultural land, farm operations, and any minimum distance separation requirements 367 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:24,800 or MDS requirements for livestock operations have been assessed and addressed. 368 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:32,180 And then the last is a strategy for engaging with First Nations and Indigenous communities. 369 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:40,620 So I'll pause there and I will turn it over to Jeff, who's there with you in person to give you an update on the servicing feasibility study. 370 00:31:41,460 --> 00:31:43,640 Thank you very much. Jeff, welcome. 371 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,060 You got a green light there? 372 00:31:48,500 --> 00:31:49,800 I do now. Okay, thank you. 373 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,900 Hi, your worship members and council and staff. 374 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:57,420 My pleasure to be here in supporting this port program participating. 375 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:02,420 So I will touch on the work that we've done today related to the servicing feasibility associated 376 00:32:02,420 --> 00:32:07,960 with the expansion of the stain or settlement boundary that is primarily focused on water capacity 377 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,160 and wastewater capacity. 378 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:17,640 So currently there's approximately 5,300 people serviced in stain and looking forward to the projected 379 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:22,280 needed needs based on the available land area and assumed land uses that were developed 380 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:28,580 in partnership with staff. At full build-out, we would say an additional 21,000 people 381 00:32:28,580 --> 00:32:33,760 within the existing settlement boundary and room for another 14,000 in the areas proposed 382 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:38,620 to be added through the settlement expansion for a total additional population of just 383 00:32:38,620 --> 00:32:44,900 over 35,000 people. Combined, that brings the total to 40,686 people. 384 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:52,500 I need to interrupt you right there, just so everyone understands, that is not happening overnight. 385 00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:56,960 This could be upwards of 30 to 40 years before that actually happens. 386 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:02,740 So, but the objective here is to look at this study and find the right number that matches 387 00:33:02,740 --> 00:33:05,460 the ability of our infrastructure. 388 00:33:05,860 --> 00:33:06,620 So, Jeff. 389 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,880 Thank you for that clarification, and you are on track with that. 390 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,280 In terms of our study focuses on what we call app build-up. 391 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:32,640 So when all the land is developed to the new boundaries that are proposed, what infrastructure would be required because, you know, significant pieces of infrastructure need to be built, and you don't want them to be too small further down the road when you need them because the infrastructure does last 15, 75 years, right? 392 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:39,520 So as the growth catches up, you don't want to have to pull out a sewer that's too small to put a bigger one in when you should look a little further down the head. 393 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:49,920 So our numbers are focused on that end line, and then later, I expect we'll be discussion about the rate of growth and exactly where the various developments will happen in water order. 394 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:51,940 But today, it's about the end story. 395 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,620 So on the water supply and storage side, there's currently four wells in the standard. 396 00:33:57,140 --> 00:34:06,340 It can provide approximately 3,240 meters cube per day of water and storage facilities on airport road that provides 7,100 cubic meters of water storage. 397 00:34:06,940 --> 00:34:11,760 Currently under construction is a significant new capacity increase to the water supply. 398 00:34:12,380 --> 00:34:17,000 So there's 4 new wells going in and 4,000 cubic meters of storage at the Klondike Park 399 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:23,840 project located on the east side of the township, approximately 8 kilometers from the stainer, 400 00:34:23,980 --> 00:34:25,800 but it will convey water to the stainer. 401 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:34,460 And when we look at the needs in the future, we need an additional supply of 10,825 cubic meters. 402 00:34:34,460 --> 00:34:42,400 We don't quite know where that's coming from yet, but that's how much we think we would need and also additional water storage of approximately 8,000 cubic meters. 403 00:34:44,140 --> 00:34:44,880 So next slide. 404 00:34:49,950 --> 00:35:01,970 So with all that anticipated growth and development, it is anticipated that we would need additional and or up size water mains to service those new lands and new people associated with that. 405 00:35:02,530 --> 00:35:31,830 But for the purpose of our analysis, we have assumed that the additional water would come from the vicinity of the Klondike Park road facility, but today there hasn't been any work to investigate exactly how much more can come from Klondike or areas near Klondike, but that's our assumption for the analysis, and as far as additional water storage, we're anticipating it's likely to be near the existing water storage on airport road, and so our modeling of the future water maintenance based on those assumptions to see if that is sort of a plausible servicing 406 00:35:31,830 --> 00:35:38,230 solution. It's anticipated that would remain with these new lands it can also be a single 407 00:35:38,230 --> 00:35:39,170 water pressure zone. 408 00:35:41,460 --> 00:35:43,800 On the wastewater side, one of the challenges 409 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:50,220 at the existing system in Stainer was not really designed to handle the lands that are being 410 00:35:50,220 --> 00:35:55,820 added to the settlement boundary. So that does create obviously difficult to convey the 411 00:35:55,820 --> 00:36:03,480 waste water that would be generated. We also expect the SPS-2, which is, I think it's the bottom 412 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:08,740 in immolate, while it has currently has some capacity and plan for expansion, the forecasted 413 00:36:08,740 --> 00:36:15,960 needs would exceed its capacity. To service the new lands, which are generally clustered in the 414 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:22,020 south and west of the existing settlement boundary, the south and the east of the settlement boundary, 415 00:36:22,020 --> 00:36:27,220 and north and east of the settlement boundary, we anticipate when they're all in all developed 416 00:36:27,220 --> 00:36:31,580 that we would need three pump stations to service those areas, essentially conveying 417 00:36:31,580 --> 00:36:35,380 west water to the north-east corner of the expanded settlement boundary. 418 00:36:38,260 --> 00:36:43,440 We anticipate that there would essentially be trunk sewers running across the side road 419 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:49,940 and side road 21 to the east and then essentially north along center line road and kind of road 420 00:36:49,940 --> 00:36:54,280 seven, it will get through the development as that permits, but that's the general flow of it, 421 00:36:54,380 --> 00:36:56,320 and three pump stations along that corridor. 422 00:36:58,370 --> 00:37:00,610 It's illustrated a little bit, very high level graphics, 423 00:37:00,890 --> 00:37:04,790 where we're working on the fancy graphics for the reports, but this is the basic diagram of how it 424 00:37:04,790 --> 00:37:13,430 flow, I think, southwest and south, southwest goes to six, it goes to five, the lands from the 425 00:37:13,430 --> 00:37:20,090 southeast come in and run north on that centerline road, kind of road seven, to SPS-4, which then would 426 00:37:20,090 --> 00:37:23,050 be conveying the wastewater to treatment facility. 427 00:37:23,850 --> 00:37:28,970 The location of that facility has yet to be determined, but the existing facility is 428 00:37:28,970 --> 00:37:30,670 not adequate for all of that additional wastewater. 429 00:37:32,650 --> 00:37:36,870 On the wastewater treatment side, currently there's one wastewater treatment plan located 430 00:37:36,870 --> 00:37:43,030 in Stainer with capacity of 2,500 meters cube per day, and the township has made agreements 431 00:37:43,030 --> 00:37:48,430 with the SEGA beach to direct an additional 50,000, sorry, 5,000 meters cubed of waste 432 00:37:48,430 --> 00:37:51,530 water to the SEGA beach, essentially, in two steps. 433 00:37:52,090 --> 00:37:57,570 The works are already constructed, essentially they convey up to 2,500, up to 5,000, 434 00:37:58,050 --> 00:38:02,370 and there would need to be an upgrade to the pumping station to go to the next level of 5,000, 435 00:38:02,550 --> 00:38:05,490 but the porous mains and pump stations are already there to do that. 436 00:38:06,590 --> 00:38:10,590 The flows to the current standard plan are approximately 70 percent of its actual 437 00:38:10,590 --> 00:38:13,110 capacity in terms of actual flow over rating. 438 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:22,080 And I noted that the works are in place for SPS2 with the additional lands that are 439 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:29,640 being added and the existing lands, the additional treatment needs are 11,545 cubic meters 440 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:30,000 per day. 441 00:38:30,100 --> 00:38:33,020 So that's above the capacity of stain or in the existing waste cycle agreement. 442 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:39,500 Obviously, it's a civic amount of wastewater and we would identify the, we would need to do 443 00:38:39,500 --> 00:38:44,380 a Schedule CEA to figure out, to create an expansion like that or a new waste water facility. 444 00:38:46,100 --> 00:38:46,920 All right, so 445 00:38:52,100 --> 00:38:58,420 it's essentially the summary, so we do anticipate that it had build out whenever 446 00:38:58,420 --> 00:39:02,200 a piece of land is developed to the expanded boundary and within on the current boundaries, 447 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,340 it's approximately 41,000 people. 448 00:39:05,330 --> 00:39:10,520 To service that, we would need to identify an additional supply of 1,800 meters cubed 449 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:16,500 of water supply. As I noted, the source is not yet known for that. And EAs would likely 450 00:39:16,500 --> 00:39:22,320 be required at least under the current regulation to construct, to get permission to design those 451 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:27,460 facilities. The water storage is a little more straightforward. Could I even be pre-approved 452 00:39:27,460 --> 00:39:32,420 but might be a schedule B under the current EAs requirements. The wastewater collection 453 00:39:32,420 --> 00:39:38,160 components, the forest main sewers and pumping stations, can likely be pre-approved from a 454 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,900 Classy A perspective if they're located on development lines or in existing municipal corridors. 455 00:39:42,420 --> 00:39:46,540 It's a little faster to implement and then the wastewater treatment as I noted, 456 00:39:47,220 --> 00:39:50,480 we will have to identify the ultimate destination in the matter of treatment, 457 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,100 which would require a Classy A. 458 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,280 So that is the highlights of the work done today. 459 00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:02,680 And then we're working on the fancy figures and supported report to go with the calculations that have been completed. 460 00:40:03,860 --> 00:40:07,120 So I think I turned that back over to Steve now and he'll finish up the presentation. 461 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,480 and I'll be able to take questions at the end. 462 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,460 All right, we'll take questions at the end then. 463 00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:12,020 Thank you. 464 00:40:12,340 --> 00:40:13,220 I think that's fine. 465 00:40:13,380 --> 00:40:15,340 Okay, well, we do that in that way then, we can do this. 466 00:40:15,340 --> 00:40:15,960 Keep it rolling, right? 467 00:40:16,180 --> 00:40:16,800 Let's keep it rolling. 468 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:17,560 All right, thank you. 469 00:40:18,140 --> 00:40:20,760 All right, if that's good with council, keep your notes handy. 470 00:40:21,500 --> 00:40:22,960 Steve, we'll take it back to you, go ahead. 471 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,360 Thank you, Mayor Measures and thanks, Jeff, 472 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,160 for covering the servicing summary. 473 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,460 I mentioned earlier in the presentation 474 00:40:31,460 --> 00:40:33,700 that one of the three key initiatives 475 00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:36,020 supporting this boundary change 476 00:40:36,020 --> 00:40:48,920 is the agricultural impact assessment as required in accordance with provincial policies and, in fact, the province has an agricultural impact assessment guideline that has been followed in preparing the study. 477 00:40:49,540 --> 00:40:54,960 And the study I'm shaking here on behalf of study authors is just a stable associates. 478 00:40:54,960 --> 00:41:04,500 There are planners and agronomists, so specialized in the areas of agricultural impact and soils review and MDS calculations. 479 00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:13,020 So I've worked closely with Rob through his process of Rob still will of producing his report. 480 00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:18,200 And that draft report is now on the project webpage as well for more information. 481 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:24,600 But just to share the highlights of that, the agricultural impact assessment looked at two primary areas. 482 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,880 Well, primary area and a secondary area. 483 00:41:26,980 --> 00:41:30,100 The primary area is the expansion lands themselves. 484 00:41:30,500 --> 00:41:37,720 So those lands are shown in the mapping accompanying the report and on the project website, 485 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,040 the land to the north east of existing stainer and the land to the southeast. 486 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:47,200 And then under the provincial guidelines, we're also required to look 487 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:54,160 at potential agricultural impacts within any farm lands within 1.5 kilometer radius of 488 00:41:54,160 --> 00:42:00,780 those primary study area lands. So that has been looked at as well to assess what types 489 00:42:00,780 --> 00:42:05,520 of farm operations are in the surrounding area and whether they have any livestock and 490 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:11,100 whether there are any setbacks associated with those livestock operations. And in fact, 491 00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:17,120 Like five agricultural operations have been identified within the proposed expansion area. 492 00:42:17,420 --> 00:42:24,140 So one of the impacts of the expansion was that those operations would come into the boundary. 493 00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:29,200 It doesn't necessarily mean that they can't continue with those operations. 494 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:35,920 They can continue with the existing farm operations that they have until, if and when they decide 495 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:49,800 that their land is going to be made available for development with the long-term purpose of the expansion being to position that land for urban land uses, such as residential housing and other supporting uses. 496 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:58,540 In addition to that, there's a number of livestock operations in the surrounding 1.5 kilometer area. 497 00:42:58,540 --> 00:43:06,120 But the information we had at the time of developing the draft report and developing this 498 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:11,720 presentation indicated that only two of those in fact have MDS setback arcs that potentially 499 00:43:11,720 --> 00:43:14,240 affect the proposed expansion lands. 500 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:21,720 We're still detailing with the agricultural consultant exactly how much of an impact that 501 00:43:21,720 --> 00:43:24,820 has on the proposed settlement area expansion. 502 00:43:24,820 --> 00:43:29,980 initial information looks like it doesn't have a major impact, but it does have some impact. 503 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:35,580 And then secondly, how we can address those impacts, there are a few different options 504 00:43:35,580 --> 00:43:36,940 of how to deal with that. 505 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:45,300 That said, there is one of the methods required under the provincial guidelines to obtain information 506 00:43:45,300 --> 00:43:51,640 about these farms is to consult directly with the farmers and that outreach occurred early 507 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:58,280 on in the process as we've been working on this since late May, and we've just been 508 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:03,660 receiving as recently as today some additional information about existing livestock operations. 509 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:09,700 So there will be some updates to the agricultural impact assessment draft report that's available, 510 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:15,800 and ultimately that report will be finalized once we have all the information from the applicable 511 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:20,760 study area and the farms that could be affected and next slide. 512 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:27,760 In terms of First Nations and Indigenous Consultation, this is outlined in the staff report. 513 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:34,960 A notice has been sent out to the contacts and we confirm those contacts with the County 514 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,580 of Simco as well regarding the proposed official plan amendment. 515 00:44:39,220 --> 00:44:45,200 So far we haven't received any responses but there is some time here for Indigenous groups 516 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:50,060 to review the information and respond and identify whether they have any interest in these matters. 517 00:44:51,180 --> 00:44:56,800 And then once we do get some response from any of the Indigenous communities. 518 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,980 And the engagement process with those indigenous communities based on their responses and their areas of interest. And just to note here, this is one part of a multi-part process in terms of land going from agricultural to urban to developed land. And that as the mayor outlined is a long term process. So along the way, there are many other opportunities for not only First Nations and Indigenous communities. 519 00:45:29,980 --> 00:45:35,900 communities, but the public at large to participate in that process, including through further 520 00:45:35,900 --> 00:45:40,740 steps in the secondary planning process, as well as as individual development applications 521 00:45:40,740 --> 00:45:44,900 are proposed and come forward for those lands over the fullness of time. 522 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:47,160 And next slide. 523 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:54,100 So just shifting gears here on our next steps, the draft official plan amendment, as mentioned, 524 00:45:54,100 --> 00:46:02,840 has been posted online and circulated to the county and other agencies for review and comment, 525 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:08,840 and a statutory public meeting under the Planning Act has been scheduled for Monday, September 14. 526 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:14,960 The notice of that meeting has gone out with all the particulars, and just to be more specific 527 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:22,260 about that, the public meeting on September 14 is specifically for Township Official Plan number 4, 528 00:46:22,260 --> 00:46:32,460 And next slide just summarizes that in addition to the township official plan amendment, because settlement area boundaries including those 529 00:46:32,460 --> 00:46:45,020 for stain are set out in the county official plan as well. There is an amendment required to the county official plan. Also to note that the county is the approval authority for the township's official plan amendment. 530 00:46:45,020 --> 00:46:51,980 So adoption of the Official Plan Amendment by the township would be followed by forwarding 531 00:46:51,980 --> 00:46:54,180 that to the county for their review. 532 00:46:55,340 --> 00:47:00,340 And I got a bit ahead of myself there, but the next with the County Official Plan Amendment 533 00:47:00,340 --> 00:47:05,380 they are required under the Planning Act to have their own public meeting for the Official 534 00:47:05,380 --> 00:47:06,000 Plan Amendment. 535 00:47:06,780 --> 00:47:13,530 And if you go to the next slide, there's some process considerations with that. 536 00:47:13,530 --> 00:47:21,010 The Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing at the Provincial Level is the approval authority for an amendment to the county official plan. 537 00:47:22,450 --> 00:47:35,310 And under the Planning Act, the county must give the ministry at least 90 days of review time with the official plan amendment before giving notice of its public meeting. 538 00:47:35,310 --> 00:47:42,170 So that 90 day period has started, it was the county submitted their draft official 539 00:47:42,170 --> 00:47:46,970 plan to limit to the province on July 17th, which means they cannot give notice of 540 00:47:46,970 --> 00:47:49,410 their public meeting until October 15th. 541 00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:56,990 So the public meeting that the county will hold will be sometime after October 15th. 542 00:47:56,990 --> 00:47:58,190 Next slide. 543 00:48:00,690 --> 00:48:08,450 The planning act does require that the county public meeting be held no earlier than Wednesday, 544 00:48:08,490 --> 00:48:12,410 November 4th based on that timing and the provincial review requirements. 545 00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:18,550 After the county hold its public meeting, they can then adopt a related county official 546 00:48:18,550 --> 00:48:25,430 plan amendment at any time thereafter and forward that to the province for their consideration 547 00:48:25,430 --> 00:48:32,450 of approval. And next slide. The approval of the county official plan is then in turn subject to 548 00:48:33,270 --> 00:48:42,630 the ministry approval process and the ministry may approve refuse or approve with modifications 549 00:48:42,630 --> 00:48:50,650 the county official plan amendment and they post their review period and decision on the environmental 550 00:48:50,650 --> 00:48:55,930 bill of rights on the Ontario Registry, and will ultimately issue a written decision. 551 00:48:56,630 --> 00:49:01,610 Following that, there is an appeal period for the county OPA, which runs for 20 days, 552 00:49:02,910 --> 00:49:07,750 but the appeals are very limited because it's a provincial decision. 553 00:49:09,930 --> 00:49:13,310 The 20-day appeal period specifically applies to the township. 554 00:49:13,510 --> 00:49:19,970 The county's decision with respect to the township OPA, and if there are no appeals, the township 555 00:49:19,970 --> 00:49:27,010 OPA comes into effect on the last after the last day of profiling of the appeals. 556 00:49:27,450 --> 00:49:32,250 If there are appeals, then those are referred to the Ontario Land Tribunal to be dealt 557 00:49:32,250 --> 00:49:32,670 with there. 558 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:40,660 So that covers the summary of the work completed to date, as well as the next steps. 559 00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:46,200 And Patrick, Jeff and I are available for questions at this time. 560 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:46,760 Thank you. 561 00:49:47,220 --> 00:49:47,820 All right. 562 00:49:48,020 --> 00:49:48,920 Thank you very much. 563 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,960 And I would suggest the staff perhaps are also available for questions, too, so thank you. 564 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,540 All right, members of council, do you have any questions to the staff on the work so far? 565 00:49:58,500 --> 00:49:59,340 Paul, you'd like to start? 566 00:49:59,580 --> 00:50:00,180 Okay, go right ahead. 567 00:50:00,460 --> 00:50:01,080 Sure, thank you. 568 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:09,520 Quick question, gentlemen, about, it says two operations in the secondary, we're affecting the proposed expansion and 569 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,300 both of those were livestock operations. 570 00:50:11,900 --> 00:50:15,060 Is that the only type of operation we're concerned with? 571 00:50:15,060 --> 00:50:19,020 Or do we concern with intensive cash crop operations? 572 00:50:22,620 --> 00:50:25,840 I'm visualizing all the livestock operations in the area, 573 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:30,520 but cash crop is definitely a bigger bite right now. 574 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,620 Steve or Patrick, either one? 575 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,240 Through the mayor, yeah, happy to respond to that question. 576 00:50:40,380 --> 00:50:41,080 It's a good question. 577 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:49,240 The livestock operations have definitely more of a direct impact because there's specific 578 00:50:49,240 --> 00:50:53,980 provincial formulae for calculating required setback distances. 579 00:50:54,000 --> 00:51:00,480 If you're re-designating land from agriculture to other uses, and that setback distance 580 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:06,640 is based on the type of land use, so it's a larger setback for urban land uses. 581 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:14,500 So in this case, the proposed change of some land from agricultural to urban triggers 582 00:51:14,500 --> 00:51:17,700 the need to do these minimum distance separation calculations. 583 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:23,840 And there are a couple of operations that have set back distances that overlap with the 584 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,180 area that's proposed to be designated as urban. 585 00:51:26,860 --> 00:51:34,760 So when we say impact, we mean that either the urban boundary would have to be drawn to 586 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:39,220 avoid those areas or there will need to be some special justification or policy treatment 587 00:51:39,220 --> 00:51:46,100 in the official plan amendment to specifically ensure that setbacks are maintained from 588 00:51:46,100 --> 00:51:51,020 those livestock operations or other measures they're taken so that we don't have incompatible 589 00:51:51,020 --> 00:51:57,300 land uses with the orders and other aspects of livestock housing specifically. 590 00:51:58,020 --> 00:52:02,740 But you're right on point that there are other types of diagramic cultural impacts as well 591 00:52:02,740 --> 00:52:08,880 associated with urban expansion, the obvious one is that land will eventually be taken out of 592 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:14,360 farm production. Again, that is more up to the land owner once the official plan amendment is 593 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:19,720 in place and there are other steps that need to be completed including the infrastructure being 594 00:52:19,720 --> 00:52:24,680 developed planning applications that need to be filed and the details of the development need to come 595 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:30,880 forward, much of which is under the control of the land owner at that stage in terms of timing 596 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:35,980 for development. So in the interim and the short term, they're able to continue operating 597 00:52:35,980 --> 00:52:40,800 as they do today. There's no direct immediate impact to an existing farm operation. 598 00:52:41,740 --> 00:52:45,900 And then the other types of impacts that are looked at in the agricultural impact assessment 599 00:52:45,900 --> 00:52:50,320 report are things like, well if some of the land starts to develop, what would be the impacts 600 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:56,860 to say farm equipment that moves around the area on the existing roads or noise and dust 601 00:52:56,860 --> 00:53:04,880 than other normal farm operations that you see out on the landscape and that's where there 602 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:09,700 are more detailed studies that need to be done as the land develops. So just like when you see 603 00:53:11,060 --> 00:53:14,920 applications like the one you heard earlier tonight, there are certain technical studies that 604 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:19,140 come forward in support of those applications and are required as part of a complete application. 605 00:53:19,300 --> 00:53:24,060 There's traffic studies, there's noise and dust and land use compatibility studies and then 606 00:53:24,060 --> 00:53:29,980 And the experts in those types of fields recommend measures that need to be taken to ensure 607 00:53:29,980 --> 00:53:35,260 that we don't set up a situation where development is happening in an area where it's going 608 00:53:35,260 --> 00:53:39,200 to generate a lot of complaints about normal farm operations in the vicinity. 609 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:47,320 There are certain mechanisms that are then used like phasing of the development or warning 610 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:51,900 clauses and purchase and sale agreements to advise purchasers of the farm operations 611 00:53:51,900 --> 00:53:54,320 in the area and the impacts from that that they should expect. 612 00:53:55,140 --> 00:53:58,820 But the details of those measures aren't being established at this stage, 613 00:53:58,820 --> 00:54:02,420 so that those happen later when the land is actually being proposed for development. 614 00:54:03,660 --> 00:54:05,420 So lots to consider there, but 615 00:54:05,420 --> 00:54:09,660 hopefully that gets into some of the specifics as to the types of impacts 616 00:54:09,660 --> 00:54:13,120 that the agricultural impact assessment report is looking at. 617 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:14,820 Thank you. 618 00:54:16,140 --> 00:54:16,740 You're all good? 619 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:17,220 Thank you. 620 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:18,360 Other members of council? 621 00:54:18,620 --> 00:54:19,180 Do you have any questions? 622 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:20,600 Mr. MacArthur, I see you. 623 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:20,920 Go ahead. 624 00:54:21,900 --> 00:54:24,680 Yeah, this is probably for Mr. Jeff Langwell. 625 00:54:24,940 --> 00:54:30,960 Just wondering, the airport road water main was just redone there a few years ago. 626 00:54:31,420 --> 00:54:41,220 Is, do you have any idea whether it's sized to help or sized accordingly for this expansion? 627 00:54:41,500 --> 00:54:44,120 Or if there'd be another redo 30, 40 years down the road? 628 00:54:51,030 --> 00:54:52,690 So we did look at that specifically. 629 00:54:52,690 --> 00:54:57,370 We run the model with these additional, assuming the people were all present and 630 00:54:57,370 --> 00:55:06,510 So it doesn't look like that man needs to be upgraded in terms of the diameter or capacity based on our initial analysis and similarly the water main 631 00:55:07,510 --> 00:55:11,030 KPR to town also looks like it would be adequate for the projected growth 632 00:55:11,950 --> 00:55:14,610 Based on the assumptions that we know right now, so in both cases 633 00:55:15,290 --> 00:55:17,270 They're not going to be obsolete pretty 634 00:55:21,290 --> 00:55:28,710 So probably probably down the road either upgrade those are we'll be looking for a third water source probably in the 635 00:55:29,510 --> 00:55:35,430 area. Yeah, so there are two sort of glass line steel tanks out on the airport 636 00:55:35,430 --> 00:55:40,230 road facility and I think there are approximately 7,000 cubic meters and we 637 00:55:40,230 --> 00:55:45,790 need 8,000 so it's essentially in my mind who would simply twin that facility 638 00:55:45,790 --> 00:55:48,870 right so there would be four tanks there using the same water made. It's really 639 00:55:48,870 --> 00:55:52,570 about the volume of water stored per firefighting that's the main that's the 640 00:55:52,570 --> 00:55:56,610 biggest thing to address with that storage and the main is big enough to convey 641 00:55:56,610 --> 00:56:01,390 the flow is through, the extra size because the flow rate doesn't go up that much from what we assume. 642 00:56:01,390 --> 00:56:10,610 It's just the duration is longer, so anyways, it looks good in terms of, you know, they'll be there for their normal life and not replaced. 643 00:56:11,010 --> 00:56:21,930 We do envision there would be water main looped essentially across 20 or so or 21, kind of creating that loop along the side of any side to help distribute water to the system. 644 00:56:21,930 --> 00:56:22,150 Thank 645 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,980 you very much, Councillor McArthur. Those are good questions. If I can just do a little 646 00:56:27,980 --> 00:56:34,780 follow-up on that point before I go to Councillor Dunin, when we do calculations, perhaps, even 647 00:56:34,780 --> 00:56:42,060 Dan might be able to assist, we do calculations about fire, you know, fire service. We also taken 648 00:56:42,060 --> 00:56:50,860 the capacity of the actual pipes. Like, the project that Councillor McArthur brought up was a significant 649 00:56:50,860 --> 00:57:01,220 We can investment by this community to improve the pipe between, you know, the Urban Center of Stainer and our reservoirs down on local airport road, county 42. 650 00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:09,180 But the actual size of the pipe increased our capacity for storage because the pipe itself is now much larger. 651 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:19,220 So I think that we need to understand that while pumping capacity is actually the primary thing when you're dealing with a major fire pumping capacity. 652 00:57:19,220 --> 00:57:25,620 but the actual volume of water in the system is sitting in reserve is because it's in the pipes. 653 00:57:26,380 --> 00:57:29,420 There's a lot of pipes that are actually acting as reservoirs. 654 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,260 Is that right? Is that a good philosophy? 655 00:57:33,420 --> 00:57:36,240 Partially asked, I like to be partially accurate, thank you. 656 00:58:00,460 --> 00:58:00,940 Yes, 657 00:58:25,710 --> 00:58:26,190 yes. 658 00:58:43,430 --> 00:58:45,990 Absolutely, the storage tanks are everything for sure. 659 00:58:46,810 --> 00:58:50,790 And so we're very blessed in the standard community with the two that we have. 660 00:58:50,790 --> 00:58:56,690 have been, as you said, recently improved, and then the new pipe is also a big improvement 661 00:58:56,690 --> 00:58:57,430 to connect us. 662 00:58:58,310 --> 00:59:06,170 And then the project at KPR is a very significant reservoir that's being built, along with 663 00:59:06,170 --> 00:59:09,950 the actual pipe itself there that connects perhaps 8 kilometers of pipe. 664 00:59:10,510 --> 00:59:17,530 So I think that there's a good argument to be said that we will have supply given all the 665 00:59:17,530 --> 00:59:26,910 factors that are available, and to continue the calculations, as we slowly build out to this population number that we're looking at. 666 00:59:27,070 --> 00:59:30,930 I mean, there's no sense in acknowledging that we're going to do that tomorrow. 667 00:59:31,350 --> 00:59:35,790 It's a matter of, you make plans to build those pipes as we go. 668 00:59:36,050 --> 00:59:41,850 And so I think that's part of it, and working with the development community to help pay for these things is an important part of it. 669 00:59:42,050 --> 00:59:45,930 So thank you, Dan, did you have anything you want to add on that since I brought it up? 670 00:59:45,930 --> 00:59:49,710 Okay. Thank you very much. We're going to go to the question by Councillor Janine now. Thank you. 671 00:59:50,530 --> 00:59:52,410 Probably don't even have to ask now. 672 00:59:53,010 --> 00:59:53,350 Oh, well. 673 00:59:53,430 --> 00:59:56,890 So, through your worship to Jeff. 674 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,980 Two-day supply storage that the pipe we're supposed to have for the amount of people that are using it. Sorry, for every water source, we're required to keep two days worth of storage. So, that issue has come up in the past with the topic principally in relation to supply this procure from the town of Hollywood pipeline. It's kind of where that two-day 675 01:00:29,980 --> 01:00:36,740 storage. Okay. You know, guideline comes from, generally that wouldn't be the rule we would 676 01:00:36,740 --> 01:00:41,540 apply for a system that has its own storage. Like, that was more through the nature of the agreement 677 01:00:42,220 --> 01:00:47,260 through calling one new tech, than our typical approach to water storage. It's much more 678 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:54,640 equation derived from the anticipated population for how big that is. Population says it's this 679 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,240 take a fire flow, you'd be able to fire it for this long. 680 01:00:58,260 --> 01:00:59,940 You know, and that goes into storage. 681 01:01:00,460 --> 01:01:01,720 That's the majority of what's in there. 682 01:01:01,860 --> 01:01:04,160 There is emergency storage and equalization storage, 683 01:01:04,340 --> 01:01:05,640 but we won't get into that. 684 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:06,800 We need more. 685 01:01:07,980 --> 01:01:09,860 And the good news is that that pipeline 686 01:01:09,860 --> 01:01:11,300 is likely going to be able to convey it. 687 01:01:11,540 --> 01:01:14,260 It's particularly, we put a new boundary man around 688 01:01:14,260 --> 01:01:15,940 to help move it around the area. 689 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,840 And it doesn't matter where the storage is located. 690 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:20,620 To some extent, it does. 691 01:01:20,620 --> 01:01:27,240 Because as I noted, when it's a fire, the loss of pressure through the pipe is a function 692 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:31,720 of length and diameter, but we've run it through the model that we have at the Township 693 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:37,220 Water System with the assumptions we said of more water coming from KPR and more stored 694 01:01:37,220 --> 01:01:43,420 at airport road, and the forecasted fire flows and available fire flow and pressure looks 695 01:01:43,420 --> 01:01:43,880 acceptable. 696 01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:48,240 So it's just the amount of storage is just determined by the users. 697 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:52,100 And of course all the new developments have new pipes which help can be the water through 698 01:01:52,100 --> 01:01:53,380 and they'll be sized in more detail. 699 01:01:54,020 --> 01:01:54,820 They all come forward. 700 01:01:55,260 --> 01:01:55,580 Okay. 701 01:01:55,820 --> 01:01:56,700 Thank you. 702 01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:58,680 Thank you. 703 01:01:58,680 --> 01:01:58,860 Yeah. 704 01:01:58,960 --> 01:01:59,420 Thank you, Worship. 705 01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:07,560 And just to add, I think the councilor Denise point to the connection of the two systems, 706 01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:17,700 one system, but the connection of KPR and Airport Road, the connection of that and trying 707 01:02:17,700 --> 01:02:23,680 to loop them together, give you better flow with the storage. 708 01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:29,980 That's more critical than having the two-day storage that was assumed as part of the, 709 01:02:30,700 --> 01:02:34,020 if there was a connection to the, to the calling of the pipeline. 710 01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:38,340 Excellent question so far. 711 01:02:38,820 --> 01:02:42,180 I'm going to go back to Paul unless you had something. 712 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:42,500 No? 713 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:43,580 Paul, you're up next. 714 01:02:43,580 --> 01:02:43,940 Go ahead. 715 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:45,680 Just clarification to our clerk. 716 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:54,000 I do understand we've got a meeting posted for September 14th, that's part of our regular meeting. 717 01:02:54,260 --> 01:03:00,180 I thought we would be doing this under a planning meeting, but we're doing this under a regular council meeting here. 718 01:03:00,660 --> 01:03:05,100 Through your worship to the Deputy Mayor, this is an important matter, it's a strong mayor decision. 719 01:03:05,580 --> 01:03:08,960 So we are putting it forefront at our regular meeting in September. 720 01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:13,100 We are getting low on council meetings before the next term, so we need to move forward. 721 01:03:13,100 --> 01:03:17,100 So, staff know that that's coming on as a public meeting during the regular meeting. 722 01:03:17,380 --> 01:03:18,400 It's always on the agenda. 723 01:03:18,540 --> 01:03:22,340 You see it, we just normally don't have any items, but this is a priority for the municipality. 724 01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,080 So, then a question you just brought up. 725 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,700 I know the mayor loses his strong mayor powers. 726 01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:33,040 Is it a continuation of his strong mayor powers to continue this application? 727 01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:38,480 Through your worship to the deputy mayor, we still have to follow the guidelines under the Planning Act, 728 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:44,460 And we still have to hold a public meeting, and we still had to follow the statutory notice period for that. 729 01:03:45,020 --> 01:03:45,560 Thank you. 730 01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,260 Thank you, very good. 731 01:03:48,980 --> 01:03:52,980 Other questions, Mr. Broderick, Mr. McArthur, Mr. Walker? 732 01:03:53,760 --> 01:04:01,680 All right, I would have a couple, if I can, and since you're here, Jeff, I appreciate we're going to go right back to water again. 733 01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:09,560 In your notes, in your presentation, it talked about an MCEA would be required for an alternate water source. 734 01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:15,700 Looking at the investment that the townships already made in the KPR site, 735 01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:26,580 there were four wells that were investigated on that site and identified as sources, all four of them are identified as individual sources. 736 01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:33,640 As I understand the project right now, we are going to be accessing two of those wells of the four. 737 01:04:34,260 --> 01:04:36,300 So is that a correct statement? 738 01:04:36,620 --> 01:04:40,880 We're using two of the four in the project that we're building right this minute. 739 01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,560 My recollection is they're all being built. 740 01:04:44,700 --> 01:04:46,440 They're certainly all permitted to be constructed. 741 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:50,100 And they're in the approval from the Minister of Environment. 742 01:04:50,660 --> 01:04:54,560 They may not be needed on day one in terms of you don't need to turn them all on. 743 01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:59,880 Right, because it's just more capacity than you need in the very near future. 744 01:05:00,540 --> 01:05:02,560 That's where I think that stands, I could confirm that. 745 01:05:03,020 --> 01:05:09,320 Yeah, as again, as I understand it, we're going to be building all the pump or all of the wells. 746 01:05:09,660 --> 01:05:16,440 But we're not going to be turning to the pumps or KPR three and 747 01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,940 four until the time that we have that expansion requirement. 748 01:05:20,380 --> 01:05:28,160 So, like, we'll have the ability to do it, but it's a matter of a little future investment that'll be needed to make that happen. 749 01:05:29,060 --> 01:05:31,780 Yeah, I would need my hunches. 750 01:05:31,940 --> 01:05:33,180 Again, they would probably use them. 751 01:05:33,460 --> 01:05:35,520 I expect they will rotate through all of them, right? 752 01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:41,680 In terms of trying to make sure they're all ready to go if they're needed as opposed to just using two and leaving two to sit. 753 01:05:42,220 --> 01:05:44,700 You probably kind of want to exercise them essentially, right? 754 01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:45,740 And rotate through. 755 01:05:46,100 --> 01:05:46,200 Yeah. 756 01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:47,960 I could check with the construction team. 757 01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:48,980 Let's check what I am. 758 01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:53,220 He's been watching that project, he might be there even closer than I am. 759 01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:58,500 Yeah, I think your worship, that's Jeff nailed it. 760 01:05:58,940 --> 01:06:05,540 All four are going to be put in production, I call it, the volume that it's going to produce 761 01:06:05,540 --> 01:06:10,860 isn't going to be needed right away until more build out is done. 762 01:06:11,700 --> 01:06:17,940 But Jeff's cracked, there's going to be a rotation between the four on an as needed basis. 763 01:06:17,940 --> 01:06:24,820 basis, with lots of built in redundancy, if one of the well's 5, 10 years from now needs 764 01:06:24,820 --> 01:06:31,900 to be worked on. We have three other ones there to take its place. So, they'll all be 765 01:06:31,900 --> 01:06:40,860 producing water on a rotational basis. On an as needed basis, the volume or the frequency, 766 01:06:40,860 --> 01:06:51,140 I guess we'll increase as needed, as building hopefully ramps up here in the next year or something. 767 01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:52,100 Yeah, certainly. 768 01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:59,560 Again, this goes back to the design of this whole project, is that it will gradually move forward. 769 01:06:59,960 --> 01:07:02,240 I mean, we're going to have to get the infrastructure in place. 770 01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:10,010 And then the planning and building department will be very busy receiving applications to build more homes. 771 01:07:10,010 --> 01:07:18,010 And as those more homes come online, and as more people move to our community there will be more demand on the water system. 772 01:07:18,250 --> 01:07:25,010 So I think it's very wise of how we're spending this money to build this system, to have the four wells available. 773 01:07:25,810 --> 01:07:36,830 I recall talking to one of the engineers about this, Jeff, it wasn't you, it was another one about how the capacity volume that we would need even to reach the 774 01:07:38,170 --> 01:07:42,950 4,000 units in that neighborhood could be achieved with two wells. 775 01:07:43,510 --> 01:07:46,210 And that was the conversation we had that we could achieve it. 776 01:07:46,310 --> 01:07:50,810 But you're right, that would put huge demand on those two wells all the time. 777 01:07:51,090 --> 01:07:55,390 So by cycling through, Dan, as you're suggesting, that's a little news to me, but 778 01:07:55,390 --> 01:08:01,150 I'm happy to hear it because it does demonstrate that we have the capacity to have redundant 779 01:08:01,150 --> 01:08:06,670 systems as well as to keep those other wells functioning well, correctly perhaps. 780 01:08:06,670 --> 01:08:08,990 So anyway, thank you very much for that. 781 01:08:09,290 --> 01:08:17,510 So that MCEA, is that a step that we would have to engage to as part of this process? 782 01:08:17,650 --> 01:08:23,310 Are we going to have to do that and go through that process as well, even though we have approved water source? 783 01:08:23,550 --> 01:08:27,970 So the KPR facility, I guess in an early step, that's all been completed in the past. 784 01:08:28,270 --> 01:08:32,310 I can't remember how many years ago now, but seven years ago or something like that. 785 01:08:32,310 --> 01:08:36,150 That facility was approved under the IA, it was an addendum to the Stainer IA. 786 01:08:37,430 --> 01:08:45,430 And so now it's through the future facilities, such as a reservoir or a new well at a new site or 787 01:08:45,430 --> 01:08:51,350 a new wastewater, all would have requirements to satisfy the requirements of the Missile Class IA. 788 01:08:51,910 --> 01:08:57,250 There are proposed changes to that that are actually anticipated in the new year, but 789 01:08:57,250 --> 01:08:59,650 under the current framework, they would require it. 790 01:08:59,650 --> 01:09:08,030 It's anticipated that if it rolls out, like we think it's going to roll out, some of them may be pre-approved as we move forward, it should get easier out of here. 791 01:09:09,630 --> 01:09:17,770 Okay. All I can ask there is to make sure you keep counsel informed of that. This is who's along. So that's great. Can I ask another question? I'm looking for other members. 792 01:09:18,170 --> 01:09:26,470 I have another question then. I'm going to switch over to the wastewater treatment plant agreement. We have a terrific agreement with our partners in the town of Osaga Beach. 793 01:09:28,230 --> 01:09:36,730 you referred to the pumping station, is that SCS-2, is that what that is, the one that's probably public work building? 794 01:09:37,330 --> 01:09:46,590 That's okay, so SCS-2, it does have the capacity to meet the requirements that we have currently building the current settlement area. 795 01:09:47,610 --> 01:09:56,310 Upgrades to that facility because of inputs that could come there, is that been sort of thought out as far as 796 01:09:56,310 --> 01:09:58,690 how extensive that could be? 797 01:09:59,130 --> 01:10:04,150 Are we thinking of another 30-foot dig into that soil, 798 01:10:05,230 --> 01:10:08,450 or is that an above-ground, mid-ground sort of project? 799 01:10:10,290 --> 01:10:13,790 So I do believe there'll be either significant upgrades 800 01:10:13,790 --> 01:10:15,690 to the SPS-2, or an alternate, 801 01:10:16,410 --> 01:10:18,570 like a new replacement that's larger, 802 01:10:18,930 --> 01:10:19,830 required in the future. 803 01:10:20,650 --> 01:10:23,490 The one that is constructed is ready to deal 804 01:10:23,490 --> 01:10:25,230 with the first half of the number 805 01:10:25,230 --> 01:10:30,350 that's supposed to go to Wisega, and the pipes are ready for the full agreement. 806 01:10:31,070 --> 01:10:35,310 They would need to be an upgrade to the pumpings within the existing building, essentially 807 01:10:35,310 --> 01:10:40,310 replacing pumps to go to the second stage, so it's a relatively modest upgrade to get 808 01:10:40,310 --> 01:10:41,850 to the agreement that was anticipated. 809 01:10:42,450 --> 01:10:46,910 Go on beyond that, we haven't really looked into that yet, whether there is room to cram 810 01:10:46,910 --> 01:10:51,730 more or with where the other development is, which is actually downhill from where that 811 01:10:51,730 --> 01:10:51,950 is. 812 01:10:52,090 --> 01:10:53,550 Yeah, it's hard to get that. 813 01:10:53,550 --> 01:10:59,590 So there's a lot of gravity there that helps it might be a blend of the two, but we'll sort that out in the future. 814 01:10:59,830 --> 01:11:01,630 But it would be more pumping capacity for us. 815 01:11:01,970 --> 01:11:07,610 Yeah, I'm kind of thinking of whether we need to sort of take another look at the site there. 816 01:11:08,090 --> 01:11:14,130 Do we need, like, will we need more real estate around that current building to build out? 817 01:11:14,530 --> 01:11:19,310 Or are we comfortable in the size of the building we have right now there to do the works internally? 818 01:11:19,310 --> 01:11:29,230 Is that I'm just seeking a construction project here to add on to that wastewater treatment volume that we're going to need when we make this settlement boundary expansion. 819 01:11:30,510 --> 01:11:36,590 Are we going to need more space there, and this is another large project that we'll be facing. 820 01:11:37,010 --> 01:11:38,250 Dan, maybe that's for you. 821 01:11:38,250 --> 01:11:45,870 You know, Jeff may be able to correct me if I'm wrong, but as he pointed out that the 822 01:11:45,870 --> 01:11:51,230 force main is going to a second beager size, yeah appropriately, I think there is space 823 01:11:51,230 --> 01:12:00,150 in the pump hose that's over the pump hose, it's the wet well, it's the wet well that 824 01:12:00,150 --> 01:12:07,610 the sewage goes into, I think that's the general theme of that is, and if we need a little 825 01:12:07,610 --> 01:12:09,430 a bit more room, we don't know all that area. 826 01:12:09,890 --> 01:12:11,270 But I think the building itself, 827 01:12:11,590 --> 01:12:14,770 I think you just add either larger pump or more pumps to it 828 01:12:15,370 --> 01:12:17,150 with an additional storage area. 829 01:12:17,710 --> 01:12:20,830 I think this, what I understood it to be constructively. 830 01:12:21,410 --> 01:12:23,470 I think for the original service area, 831 01:12:24,130 --> 01:12:26,650 I think there was hope that it would be expanded at that site, 832 01:12:27,190 --> 01:12:30,090 but because the new area is essentially downhill, 833 01:12:30,890 --> 01:12:32,950 it's like can you get it back into the existing one 834 01:12:32,950 --> 01:12:33,890 without it being deeper? 835 01:12:34,410 --> 01:12:36,050 We haven't quite got the detail done on that yet. 836 01:12:36,050 --> 01:12:42,410 Okay, so it's presented conservatively and that we need to good you know it will work if you build a new one 837 01:12:42,410 --> 01:12:44,550 Can we optimize it and leverage or? 838 01:12:46,210 --> 01:12:47,610 Or all what's there like 839 01:12:48,930 --> 01:12:52,950 Yes, right and it's it's rated a pump 25 840 01:12:53,610 --> 01:12:58,390 Easily upgraded to 5000 by those ultimate numbers are well beyond that right so 841 01:12:58,390 --> 01:13:04,910 I need an expectable probability station eventually when all that group materializes exciting stuff 842 01:13:04,910 --> 01:13:15,850 I know. Again, I try to think long-term, as far as into the future, what kind of expenses the committee could be facing, what we're looking at. 843 01:13:16,150 --> 01:13:29,650 So I look at it, we have a really good investment in this particular SCS-2, or SPS-2, and the fact that we have real estate around it, if we had to do an extra wet well, we already have space to do that. 844 01:13:29,650 --> 01:13:38,770 we can incorporate that into that site without too much issue and it can be engineered and it can be built 845 01:13:39,730 --> 01:13:44,830 given the resources that we have available to us. So all right, so that's good for that, 846 01:13:44,930 --> 01:13:50,330 and I think that that agreement Mr. Ferguson and I had a talk about that agreement some months ago 847 01:13:50,330 --> 01:13:55,690 about the fact that it's you know it'll be many years until we reach that point where we have 848 01:13:55,690 --> 01:13:56,950 I have to renegotiate that agreement. 849 01:13:57,130 --> 01:14:02,790 The good news is that the pipe that connects us from Stainer to the Visage Beach wastewater treatment plant will handle the capacity. 850 01:14:03,550 --> 01:14:07,210 So we don't have to open up those pipes again, which is great. 851 01:14:07,430 --> 01:14:08,970 So we're really in a good spot there. 852 01:14:10,250 --> 01:14:13,630 So I look to my council if there's other questions, no further? 853 01:14:14,690 --> 01:14:21,450 All right, can I just ask a question and a staff regarding the First Nations and 854 01:14:21,450 --> 01:14:28,210 addition to consultations? Can we just confirm? Did we receive any responses, Steve, or Patrick? 855 01:14:28,470 --> 01:14:34,230 Did we receive any responses on that? Or are we still going to engage consultations with 856 01:14:34,230 --> 01:14:36,790 them to seek their inputs on this? 857 01:14:38,610 --> 01:14:46,670 As of our last discussions with your staff, there haven't been any responses yet, but there 858 01:14:46,670 --> 01:14:54,710 There is some time here between now and the September 14th meeting, so we'll continue monitoring and following up. 859 01:14:55,150 --> 01:14:57,090 Okay, I think we've got an answer on. 860 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:28,720 We haven't received anything, but they have been emailed as well as mail the notice, but we haven't received anything yet. Okay, so we're still engaging and making sure that we have those consultations. That's good. All right, that's great. And I guess the last thing is back to the county issue, which Derek, this might be for you if I can. Moving this whole project as a recommendation from this council as we go to a full council meeting and get the public input. 861 01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:38,780 and we get that report and we take OPA for, and we move it over to the county, and then the province of Ontario is removing the county authority to make these type of decisions anyway. 862 01:15:39,020 --> 01:15:58,400 So, are we facing a roadblock, do you think, or are we going to be looking at changes to the county system, given their timeline of when they give up the authority to make those decisions on planning matters? 863 01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:00,380 Derek, what do you think? 864 01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:07,200 Through your worship, it's a great question and one I've been in connection with Nathan 865 01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:08,120 Westendorp there. 866 01:16:09,180 --> 01:16:16,760 He and as well as other staff have informed me that the county will still have their decision 867 01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:18,840 making authority come November 4th. 868 01:16:19,020 --> 01:16:24,240 I think it's just those three municipalities in this bill Bradford and Newtech that will 869 01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:28,220 will operate kind of as a single tier municipality and not require counties approval authority. 870 01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:37,580 So following the election and on that date that the province did set out county, the county of Simco is still our approval authority for planning act decisions. 871 01:16:38,460 --> 01:16:45,100 What remains in question is what county council will look like come November 4th as I know the numbers are dwindling, and 872 01:16:45,100 --> 01:16:52,380 when they will actually have their next county council meeting, but we're in constant communication with the county and 873 01:16:52,380 --> 01:17:05,080 Nathan and his team to sort this out and just want to point out that in no way does our decision affect their decision like they will still formulate their own planning rationale. 874 01:17:05,890 --> 01:17:14,540 It doesn't necessarily mean that the county is going to automatically approve it, but they will still have to go through their approval process to amend their county official plan. 875 01:17:14,540 --> 01:17:19,360 All right, thank you for sharing that with everyone here, appreciate that. 876 01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:25,140 One more time, is there any further questions, so we'll take the mic a lot here, okay, you're all good? 877 01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:32,640 Well, listen, thank you very much, staff, thank you very much to our consultants, thank you to Bernside, Jeff, to have you guys here. 878 01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:37,780 This is certainly a positive step forward to get us to this point. 879 01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:44,520 Madam Clerk, the advertisements are out to advise the public about a public meeting where we hope to have a public meeting. 880 01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:50,400 have anybody who's interested in this particular issue come forward for the 14th. 881 01:17:50,940 --> 01:17:59,080 We will certainly endeavor to make that meeting agenda not as heavy, Madam Clerk, hint, hint. 882 01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:04,800 Well, it's just, it's a tough one because we have so many other departments we have to deal 883 01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:05,640 with at the same time. 884 01:18:06,180 --> 01:18:10,340 It's just, it's, it's, it's going to be a big decision and an opportunity, thank you very 885 01:18:10,340 --> 01:18:10,840 much for that. 886 01:18:10,980 --> 01:18:14,280 Okay, so if there's nothing further, we do have a small recommendation 887 01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:15,880 here, which is just to receive this. 888 01:18:16,180 --> 01:18:19,360 So, again, I want to thank our staff and our consultants and 889 01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:20,960 Burnside Engineering, et cetera. 890 01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:23,540 And thank you, Council, for all these terrific questions. 891 01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:30,320 Recommendation says, be it resolved that Council of the Township of Clearview hereby receive, report PV0342026. 892 01:18:30,580 --> 01:18:34,600 This is the Stainer Settlement Area Boundary Expansion Phase 1 Status Update, 893 01:18:34,980 --> 01:18:41,100 stated August 26, 2026 for information, moved by the Deputy Mayor, seconded by Mr. Walker. 894 01:18:41,540 --> 01:18:42,240 Thank you very much, sir. 895 01:18:42,820 --> 01:18:46,420 Any questions on that motion? Seeing none, I'll call it. All in favour? 896 01:18:47,420 --> 01:18:49,240 Carried unanimous. Thank you very much. 897 01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:55,400 Council, this is a special meeting but we do have the confirmatory by-law for this meeting as we do. 898 01:18:56,320 --> 01:19:04,260 It says it was all the by-law 2559 being a by-law to confirm the proceedings of the August 26, 2026 council meeting. 899 01:19:04,260 --> 01:19:08,580 be presented and read a first, second, and third time finally passed, the 26th of August, 900 01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:13,160 2026, Councillor Denny. Thank you very much. Councillor MacArthur, thank you. 901 01:19:13,860 --> 01:19:19,460 And the by-laws have been read. Any questions? Seeing none, all in favour? By-law carries, thank 902 01:19:19,460 --> 01:19:24,360 you. Councillor, we're out there in motion to adjourn for our special meeting. 6.40, we're 903 01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:29,120 going to call it 49, by the time we get there. 6.49, maybe we should all buy a ticket. 904 01:19:30,540 --> 01:19:35,180 Councillor Brodwick, Deputy Mayor, would you like to move that? Motion to adjourn. All those 905 01:19:35,180 --> 01:19:40,160 in favour? Thank you very much. Very good folks. Thank you very much for joining us.