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We're live now. Um before we start, I'd

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just like to uh welcome uh Mark Langden

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to the parks and waterways. Um hopefully

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uh you have a good three years with us

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or more. Thank you, Mark.

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» Um we'll start off by uh the opening of

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» Thank you, Nathan. Um, one other thing I

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did want to say before we started was,

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um, on our last parks and waterways

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meeting, um, we had people complaining

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they couldn't hear what we were saying

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and that we had to get closer to the

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mic. And when I went home, I went back

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and I watched the recording. I could

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hear everything plain like didn't seem

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to be any issues at all. So, it seemed

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more of the problem was in here. So, I

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think when there's people here, we got

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to get closer to the mic. But other than

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that, I think it was fine back back when

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they check it. So anyways, to start off,

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we'll start the adoption agenda and our

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agenda additions. We're trying something

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new this time.

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» Oh, I did say that. I'm sorry. I could

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see my Rebecca was going to tell us. Go

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ahead.

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» Yes. Through the chair. Yes. So, we do

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have um an amendment to the motion that

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was on the agenda just to change the

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order. Uh so, the amended motion would

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be that the Lagoon City Parks and

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Waterways Commission agenda dated August

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13th, 2026 be adopted as amended to move

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item 8.2 to water mover study before

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item seven accounts and budgets to allow

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for attendance by an external

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consultant. Uh so for the commission's

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knowledge uh a consultant from TAM

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engineering is available on Zoom to

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speak to this item. [snorts]

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» Thank you. Uh the mayor has moved it.

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Second by the deputy mayor.

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All in favor? That's pass.

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So Rebecca, did you want to read that

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the recommendation? [snorts]

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» Yes. So through the chair, the next item

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will just be adoption of minutes. So we

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do have one vote for both sets of

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minutes. If you'd like to talk about

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either of them separately, please let us

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know. So it's just that the minutes of

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the following Lagoon City Parks and

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Waterways Commission meetings be adopted

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as presented. LCPWC meeting minutes

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dated July 9th, 2026 and LCPWC close

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session meeting minutes dated July 9th,

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» So I need somebody to put on the floor

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each one. So we'll do um 3.1 first.

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» To the chairs just one vote for both

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unless you'd like to talk about them

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separately. So if you're comfortable

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adopting both without any changes, then

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» Um I guess five to five. Does anybody

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have a discussion that before I put on

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the Okay. Um we'll put on the floor um

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mayor second by uh councelor Hart or

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all in favor

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um four disclose your appearing

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interest.

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I don't see anybody. um open form

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regarding agenda items only. Uh we don't

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have anything that just came. Um

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petitions deputations. We don't have

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Um would you put that up please?

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uh through the chair. So we do have a

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general manager Laura Pi and the

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consultant from Tate of Engineering on

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the screen. We do have a draft motion.

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from the commission to be completed. So

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suggestion would be that the commission

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discuss what you would like to do and

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vote on it at that time. So currently

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it's drafted as that report LC1426

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regarding water mover noise study update

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be received and that the commission

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provide direction to staff as to the

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requirement for operation and timing of

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the water movers.

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So put on the floor deputy mayor second

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by uh commissioner um

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um I think we have somebody to speak

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from Tatum there. Um

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» Go ahead. Can you just give us an update

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on the report is pretty lengthy. maybe

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tell us a little bit about it.

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» Of course. Uh I I just add a little

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background about the water movers noises

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study that Tatum completed. We started

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the project in 2023 I believe. Uh at

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that time we um the township was

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receiving complaints about the noise and

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results showed that one of the water

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movers noise is exceeding the limits and

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and and the noise is tonal. Uh so 5 dB

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to account for the tonal noise. Uh after

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study to offer some modifications to the

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water movers uh uh structure uh which

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includes VFD uh uh variable frequency

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drives to to be able to control the

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speed of the pump. However, the township

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site visit in July 14 this year uh to

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confirm uh if the modifications were

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effective. Uh we did the noise

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measurements for both water meters. uh

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the uh we did noise measurements on the

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shoreline and also uh uh we used barge

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location of the sensitive receptors

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closest ones to the water movers. Uh the

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representing their bedroom or living

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showed that uh both water meters can

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meet MPC 300 and MECP noise requirements

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uh under all like all day conditions

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» Um I I have a I I have a question. Um I

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was just wondering when I'm reading that

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one like and like read it properly. Did

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one pump sound a lot less and the other

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pump was louder? That's what I was

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reading and then I was reading somewhere

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else that it seemed like both pumps were

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too loud.

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were loud but uh this uh the south water

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mover was much louder

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uh and tonal. Uh but when we did uh the

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revised measurement uh both were in the

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both in the same range.

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» So the the like going over it all like

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because um I know I was looking at that

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report and I'm not an engineer trying to

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understand this. The noise really has

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backed off. It's it's still somewhat

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loud for people.

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» No, it is not. Uh it is within the um uh

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MECP limit. So, MECQ limit says that

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daytime noise uh below 50 dBA noise at

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daytime and below 45 dBA at night time

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is an acceptable level. Uh I think the

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limit and night limit.

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the living area was 40 40.9 dBA and it

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is below the daytime limit of 50 dBA and

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nighttime limit of 45 dBA.

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» Okay. Um let's do the mayor first then

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» Well, when I was looking at part of the

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report here, it showed that they

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actually ran quieter in the evening. Why

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is that? Are we reducing the load on

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them? Are we turning them down? Why? Cuz

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at one time, like one of them was

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running 48 during the day, and I know

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the limit's 50, but 48 is not

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acceptable. I I mean, that's what I read

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in here. We'd have to do something. The

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around that 40. And still I would

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consider that quite loud. So is there a

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reason why the sound is different at

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night coming out of the motors? Not I

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know the decibels must be lower at night

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so people can sleep but why is is the

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level changing on some of them but not

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» Uh the sound level um at night is

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similar to the day but the limit is

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lower because the nighttime is the

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sleeping time. uh and that's why the

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MECP put a lower limit for nighttime. So

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if a water mover or or any other

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equipment uh is to operate at night,

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they they must meet the uh nighttime

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noise levels uh which is quieter and

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more stringent.

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» Um Commissioner Hart,

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» Turn your mic.

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Chairman, I had the same kind of

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questions that if so what what I

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understand so I'm clear because the

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acoustics here is not not the best. Uh

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but and I but I've read the report but

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so what what you're saying is that there

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are acceptable standards.

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We're within the reason of acceptable

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standards at the present time. Is that

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» That's

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sorry chairman. My my question was the

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the acoustics here is a bit difficult

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for me but I I I have read the report

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and just so I'm clear that the the

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standards uh that we have now are are

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both day and night at at 45

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» This center. Yeah, go ahead.

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» Um Laura, would you like to say

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something? Yeah. So, yes, it both water

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movers are currently um the noise coming

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from them are below the compliance

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limits. However, to the commission's

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point, um it may still not be acceptable

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to the people who are living nearby

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listening to them 247, which is why

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we're also seeking direction on how the

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commission would like us to operate

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these, if at all. Um, I can say that

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operationally we are seeing quite a bit

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of duckweed um within that canal and

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these water movers are effective at

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moving those. Uh, we currently have a

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timer um that's in the cabinet that

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would allow us to have one cycle of on

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and off, which is what we were operating

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on earlier this year. Um, however, we've

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looked and we can invest in a couple of

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different timers um that would allow us

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to have up to six cycles per day. So, it

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could be that we cycle them on for a

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duration and then have them off for a

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duration as well. So, yes, the water

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movers are under the acceptable limits

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for sound. However, the people who live

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nearby who have complained um may not

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appreciate them running 24/7. And that's

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where we're seeking that direction from

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the commission is do you want us to turn

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these on? And if so, how would you like

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us to turn those on? Because

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understanding that they are meeting

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those requirements for both day and

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nighttime uh usage.

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» Chairman, thanks for

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thank you for the clarification. Um the

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so the the standards are are per

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acceptable but but for for the residents

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of that particular area those st is

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still is still considered to be um high

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or or nuisance or or or troubling for

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them. So even though we do meet the the

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the standard based on

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whatever premise that those standards

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come from obviously the engineering

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standards um if we we can still can we

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still have some flexibility in terms of

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of working with that? I like the idea of

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having a timer but are there other

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options we can consider?

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Um is that a question too?

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» Yes, that's that's a question.

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» So

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» Laura, do you want to answer that

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question? Yeah, [snorts] through you,

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Mr. Chair. Um, so again, the the

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commission may remember that the

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original uh proposal from TAM

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Engineering was to install the variable

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frequency drives. Uh, that would have

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the potential to reduce the speed of the

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pump um in general and what it's

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operating at uh which could again

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potentially lower the sound. We just

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don't know until that uh the VFD is

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installed and operating. Um, however,

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that came with a fairly significant

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price tag. I believe it was close to the

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$10 to $15,000 per mover, which is why

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we tried to do this less expensive

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mitigation measure, which did reduce the

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sound below to that acceptable level.

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So, we were successful in getting it

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below the the the acceptable limit. Um,

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other than that, the other option we

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could consider is uh leaving them off

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for now. Understanding that there's

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going to be some uh duckweed um that the

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the harvesters do are challenged with

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trying to pick it up through skimming

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activities. That isn't something that we

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can easily achieve. Um however we as

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part of the budget consideration for

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next year um referencing one of the

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other reports we'll be discussing in a

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little bit there is a proposal for a

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study which could consider other

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technologies but at this time we're

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limited to uh either the movers being

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off or on um and having additional

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timers or potentially looking at

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installation of VFDs which may or may

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not be um successful. Well,

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» Uh, Deputy Mayor,

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» Yeah, I it's just my opinion, but I do

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think that we probably need to look at

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shutting these down and start to monitor

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them weekly to see what the duckweed

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does. Um, and then we can reassess at

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that point. But I think we need to give

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some of these folks a bit of the summer

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that are having a hard time sitting out

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on their deck because I know in that one

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condo where that mover is, there's been

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I've been over there, I visited them.

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It's hard to just sit out there. At

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first, you don't notice it, but after

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you sit there for 15, 20 minutes having

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a conversation, you just hear a constant

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buzzing and it does get to you. And I

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know there's a lady there that did have

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an accident that has a brain injury. She

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isn't even able to sit outside right now

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because it just affects her that

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frequency. I think we should give them a

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bit of a reprieve, do that, and then

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look at the the options for next year.

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Laura,

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» Uh through you, Mr. Chair, just to

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clarify, the water movers have been off

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since the last commission meeting. So,

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we have not had them on for the last

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couple of weeks. Um, they've been on or

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off for the purposes of uh TAM finishing

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their um noise assessment and then a

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couple of operational moments, so not

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extended periods. Um, and there has been

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uh quite a bit of duckweed growth

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through there. Um, I will leave it to

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the commission to determine if that's

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acceptable or not.

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Um, I I I have a question for um the

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lady from Tatum. Um,

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do you know of pumps that are out there

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that are quieter than these ones?

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Because I I remember when the old pumps

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were there. The first time I You

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probably all heard this story, right?

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The first time I went, I couldn't figure

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out if they were on. They were that

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quiet. They were totally quiet. You

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didn't even know they were on. And I'm

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and I remember back, this goes back, I

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don't know, 15, 18 years, when I looked

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at the prices, the prices were like

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almost $100,000 for these pumps. And I'm

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pretty sure the ones we just bought were

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like 4550,000.

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So the the price difference tells me the

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quality. And I'm wondering whether or

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not there are quality pumps out there

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that we should be looking at. Cut our

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costs on this because we're wasting so

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much time and money on this. We all know

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it works well. It's been working like

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that for like 15 years, 12 years. I

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don't need a study. I've talked to the

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people that have lived over there for

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years and years and they used to be

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after me when those pumps didn't fire up

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in the spring. They were all over me.

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They wanted those pumps running because

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they saw the duckweed and they saw the

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issues that were happening there. So, it

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does help and we do need them there. We

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do need the water movement and we should

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even be looking to look at other areas

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to move water around and maybe that's

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what that study could do. But I I wonder

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could we just get some prices on like a

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pump and if there's this pump out there

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because I know I googled and said

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quietest pumps in the world and they

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bring me a whole bunch of pumps and

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things. Well, we just go out and take a

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look and listen to it. And I know I

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brought this idea to Laura when I was

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talking to her about it and her comment

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was and I I appreciate what you're

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saying that it depends on the location

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and where it is and so on and so forth

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vibrations, but I think if the pump's

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that quiet, I can't hear it out there.

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it's going to work a lot better. Uh, I

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agree 100% with what the deputy mayor

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said. I've been over there, too. I

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couldn't put up with that noise. I I

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think it's too loud. I know it's legally

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loud, but illegally allowed to be that

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loud, but it's just constant. And it's

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not a nice feeling. It It's not really

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It's It's just I don't think it works.

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And I wouldn't want to run them again,

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even if they're at 40. I I think they

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got to be like under like 20. I think 15

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even, right? So that's something that I

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would really like to look into and we'll

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I think we're going to be talking about

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that later. Correct. Uh Laura, we'll be

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just Oh, no. We're talking about it now

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because we have to make decision now. My

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apologies. Yeah. So, mayor.

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» Well, my Yeah, now I they're off, but if

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the duckweed builds up, I certainly

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wouldn't be turning them on, leaving

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them on all day. If you've got the

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capability of up to six times, you know,

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have them How long does it take to

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establish the water flow? Like if they

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ran for two hours and shut off for two

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hours, ran for two and then not on at

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night at all. Like is there a way do you

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know roughly how long it takes to

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establish that water flow?

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» Uh through you, Mr. Chair. Um I

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understand uh from Mr. Lenny who's

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joining us today. Um he's our new

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operations manager that um last week

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within five minutes we saw a noticeable

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change to the duckweed. So, I agree that

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we could do it for short durations, um

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potentially on for even um 30 minutes

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and then off for uh an hour and do that

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during some daytime hours. We can put a

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break in there um as well uh and see if

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that's effective and we can kind of

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adjust uh those timings as we see um how

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effective it is and if uh the commission

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would give us direction uh delegation to

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be able to adjust them minimally to to

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make sure that they're still being

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effective without uh um changing it

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drastically.

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» That would be my suggestion if we have

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to turn them back on so they're not

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running constant. U and just in in that

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when um and this I quote back when I

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became a um a commissioner back many

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years ago, one of my biggest complaints

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was the electrical bill with that and it

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had been running for 24 hours. So we

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started experimenting on using it at

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night where the electricity was cheaper

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and we found it did work. We were

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running it in the morning and at night

519
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except in the spring. We left them on 24

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hours because we really needed it

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because the p they were power hogs. The

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old ones they used up so much power. So,

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uh, what the mayor is saying, I I agree

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we can do that, but maybe pick an hour,

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say 11:00 or 12:00 during the day where

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everybody's up and let them run for a

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little bit. But the key right now is

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that we can pick up the duckweed with

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our harvesters now. We can get in the

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area. The problem with the duckweed is

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when um we do and I do want to talk

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about skimmers and that and that's

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something we're going to talk about

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later I guess at capital but um to pick

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it up now and the reason I say we pick

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it up now is if you go down and you pick

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up weeds and then you bring the weeds up

538
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,320
as you're bringing it you can draw the

539
00:22:26,159 --> 00:22:30,000
duckweed off the top of the water but

540
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,159
when we're just skimming during

541
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,480
springtime we have a lot of problem with

542
00:22:32,159 --> 00:22:36,480
the screen it falls right through but if

543
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,559
we're taking weeds out we utilize the

544
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,480
weeds to help lift the duckweed Yeah,

545
00:22:38,559 --> 00:22:42,240
I've watched um them do it before. It

546
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,360
really works quite well. And and I do

547
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,919
understand what you're I know what

548
00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:47,280
you're about to say, Laura.

549
00:22:45,919 --> 00:22:48,880
Yeah. But you could say that if you

550
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,200
want, but that's how we we learned how

551
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,720
to do it. Yeah.

552
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,039
» Um definitely.

553
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:57,679
» I think back in 2022, I had asked um

554
00:22:55,039 --> 00:22:59,360
Josh Kavanagh, who was here with us, um

555
00:22:57,679 --> 00:23:00,559
to look at brushless motors. At that

556
00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:02,799
point, they didn't they couldn't find

557
00:23:00,559 --> 00:23:04,159
any brushless pumps. I'm just don't know

558
00:23:02,799 --> 00:23:06,000
if that's maybe something that's come

559
00:23:04,159 --> 00:23:08,480
about. I know I put him in contact with

560
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,720
a company called NCH in Barry on Wellm

561
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,240
Road um and they specialize in in

562
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,360
specialty pumps. So maybe that would be

563
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,280
somewhere to start when we start looking

564
00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:16,559
at that study. But there there does I

565
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,799
agree with Cal. We were actually looking

566
00:23:16,559 --> 00:23:20,720
at rebuilding one of those. Um we had

567
00:23:18,799 --> 00:23:22,080
one left in the core. We were going to

568
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,880
rebuild it, but I don't know what ever

569
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,200
happened to that.

570
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,840
» I asked that. I [clears throat]

571
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,159
Laura

572
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:30,640
» Uh uh through you, Mr. Chair. Yes, we

573
00:23:28,159 --> 00:23:34,159
still have had one of the pumps.

574
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:36,640
However, getting parts for it was uh the

575
00:23:34,159 --> 00:23:39,679
challenge. So, those pumps were original

576
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:43,120
with the original water movers in 1999,

577
00:23:39,679 --> 00:23:45,200
early 2000. Uh and the the uh repair

578
00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:47,120
parts are not available for those pumps

579
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:50,080
anymore, which is why the decision was

580
00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:52,320
made to replace those. Um and again, we

581
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:55,520
can definitely consider options for

582
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:57,360
different pumps um going forward. I

583
00:23:55,520 --> 00:24:01,280
would say that that would be a request

584
00:23:57,360 --> 00:24:02,559
for 2027 budget.

585
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,240
I would like to see that in the budget

586
00:24:02,559 --> 00:24:05,600
for sure that in the study I think we

587
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,919
need to this has been gone going since

588
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,919
I've been on in 2022 and long before

589
00:24:07,919 --> 00:24:11,440
that I think how you and the mayor

590
00:24:09,919 --> 00:24:13,200
probably remember how far back it's gone

591
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,360
but previous people that lived there

592
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,720
have had the same issues so that we need

593
00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:19,200
to look at this and get a final

594
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,400
solution.

595
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,080
Uh, Commissioner.

596
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:25,120
» Yeah, Chairman, if I just may comment,

597
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:27,760
it it it's so just to so I understand it

598
00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:30,799
meets the acceptable standards, but it's

599
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:34,240
not acceptable to the people uh of of of

600
00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:36,720
that area and and

601
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:39,919
we have to uh and the water moves big

602
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:42,559
plays a big important role in in proper

603
00:24:39,919 --> 00:24:44,559
uh canal maintenance as well as as

604
00:24:42,559 --> 00:24:46,640
harvesting. But I think we have to move

605
00:24:44,559 --> 00:24:49,520
forward and and and examine what if

606
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,960
there is a cost look at other options.

607
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,520
But this is something that we have to

608
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:55,600
take uh we are taking very seriously and

609
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,440
we got to come to a a favorable

610
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,760
conclusion that we can have the water

611
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,279
movers and still meet uh acceptable

612
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,440
standard for the people who live in that

613
00:25:01,279 --> 00:25:06,799
area.

614
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:09,039
I I think we all agree with that. Yeah.

615
00:25:06,799 --> 00:25:10,720
So I guess what we need to do now is

616
00:25:09,039 --> 00:25:13,919
figure the direction that we're going to

617
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:15,679
ask of staff. And I I would love to

618
00:25:13,919 --> 00:25:17,360
actually look at new pumps. I really

619
00:25:15,679 --> 00:25:19,120
would. And see how much they are and

620
00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:20,559
this could solve all our problems in one

621
00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:22,559
shot. Like, you know, we might have to

622
00:25:20,559 --> 00:25:24,880
pay a little more for the pumps, but

623
00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:26,960
these pumps here, I I just think they're

624
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:29,360
cheap pumps. Actually, my my feeling

625
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,679
with about it right now. Um Deputy

626
00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:30,960
Mayor,

627
00:25:29,679 --> 00:25:32,080
» But I do know that's not in the budget

628
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,360
this year. So, that's something we need

629
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,360
to add to the budget when we're talking

630
00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:37,360
about the budget. But this year, I don't

631
00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:39,279
know. I think we need to let staff kind

632
00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:41,279
of experiment a little bit whether it's

633
00:25:39,279 --> 00:25:43,200
every day or every other day and do the

634
00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:44,720
timers and see if we can if that can

635
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,720
kind of mitigate some of the complaints

636
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,080
and keep that duckweed down. I think

637
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,360
that would be the direction I'd

638
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,960
» Yeah, I think we've agreed that we can

639
00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:52,960
run it for an hour or two at lunch at

640
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:55,600
noon or something like that, right? And

641
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:58,320
see how it works, right? uh it it does

642
00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:00,000
help us and we do need it on. So we

643
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,760
really know we have to get the pumps,

644
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,279
but I think really we should be giving

645
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,880
direction also to be looking at new

646
00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:06,880
pumps because we're going to be looking

647
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,480
at budget today. We may want to get a

648
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,480
rough idea like what that's going to

649
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,960
cost us too because we might want to

650
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:16,000
move something out that's in there, you

651
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:18,799
know, to put it forward. And I I don't

652
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:22,400
we'll talk about the budget later now.

653
00:26:18,799 --> 00:26:24,320
So I I guess we're we're kind of done

654
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,080
with Tatum. I don't Do you guys have any

655
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,279
more questions for Tatum? I guess

656
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,799
because we're gonna have to discuss it

657
00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:32,640
now or what are we going to do like um

658
00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:35,039
would would if we're looking at getting

659
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:37,200
an idea of new pumps and and exploring

660
00:26:35,039 --> 00:26:38,320
that. Would you be doing that Laura?

661
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,320
» Uh Laura?

662
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,640
» Yes, we would be able to help with that

663
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:45,600
and also uh the new pumps will have

664
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:47,919
manufacturer data on their noise levels.

665
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:52,080
we can uh review all those manufacturer

666
00:26:47,919 --> 00:26:54,159
data and model it uh if needed to see if

667
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:58,120
they are meeting uh the requirement

668
00:26:54,159 --> 00:26:58,120
levels for the residents.

669
00:26:58,559 --> 00:27:02,080
» Is that how you would do it Laura? Like

670
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,240
would you then go through Tatum or would

671
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,840
you look like how would we what would be

672
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,720
our next steps?

673
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:11,039
» I I think because this has been an

674
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:14,640
ongoing issue and the noise sensitivity

675
00:27:11,039 --> 00:27:16,640
is important. Yes, I would um I would

676
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:19,279
contract a consultant to assist with

677
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:22,000
that procurement uh to determine which

678
00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:24,960
path would be the best option. We could

679
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:27,760
look at that being conducted as part of

680
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:30,240
the overall study that's proposed for

681
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:33,760
2027. Uh when we get to the budget

682
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:36,720
portion of that, um for the purposes of

683
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:39,360
this report though, I need direction on

684
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:42,159
what you would like us to do with the

685
00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:44,240
water movers right now. And so we can

686
00:27:42,159 --> 00:27:46,240
leave the other discussion for budget.

687
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,559
Uh but for right now, what do we want to

688
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,320
do with the existing water movers? Uh

689
00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:52,000
and when do you want and if we're

690
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,320
running them, how would you like us to

691
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,799
run them?

692
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,240
» So that's discussion. Many people said

693
00:27:56,799 --> 00:27:59,760
that you want to run for a couple hours.

694
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,000
» Yeah, I would say. But what what if we

695
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,760
just gave you say three hours a day m is

696
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,440
the maximum we want to see them on Laura

697
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,960
and let you decide when when it might be

698
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:10,480
the most effective to use those three

699
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:12,559
hours with the less less least impact.

700
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:15,360
Is that enough direction

701
00:28:12,559 --> 00:28:18,640
» Through you? Yes, that's fine. Um, I

702
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:20,399
would like also maybe uh a time frame of

703
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,000
what would be acceptable hours to run

704
00:28:20,399 --> 00:28:23,279
them in.

705
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,039
» How many hours do you think would be

706
00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:26,559
acceptable?

707
00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:27,760
» I believe an hour in the morning or an

708
00:28:26,559 --> 00:28:29,600
hour in the afternoon, an hour in the

709
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,279
evening. Just take an hour block out of

710
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,039
each each section. That gives people

711
00:28:31,279 --> 00:28:34,320
windows of those sections depending on

712
00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:35,200
when they like to go and enjoy the

713
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,880
water.

714
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,919
» Can you do that, Laura? Like an hour in

715
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,600
the morning, an hour in the afternoon,

716
00:28:37,919 --> 00:28:41,679
an hour a day.

717
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:44,159
Uh yes, we can. We'll we'll purchase

718
00:28:41,679 --> 00:28:47,919
those uh different timers which will

719
00:28:44,159 --> 00:28:49,840
give us flexibility for that. Um it

720
00:28:47,919 --> 00:28:51,440
should be able to be accommodated within

721
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:54,559
our operating budget for this year for

722
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:57,200
us to get those purchased and installed.

723
00:28:54,559 --> 00:29:02,000
Um and then just to clarify, morning

724
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:05,520
would be anything beyond 8:00 a.m.

725
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:10,159
between 8 and 12 noon. Afternoon would

726
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:12,320
be 12 to 4 and evening would be 4 to

727
00:29:10,159 --> 00:29:13,919
8:00 p.m. That's where I I need to

728
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,000
understand

729
00:29:13,919 --> 00:29:17,360
what your distinction of the times are.

730
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,279
» So really what they're saying is you're

731
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:23,840
saying an hour. So 9:00 in the morning

732
00:29:19,279 --> 00:29:28,480
till 10:00 uh 2:00 till 3:00 and 7

733
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:31,279
o'clock to 8 o'clock. Is that all right?

734
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,480
And and before going forward, you're

735
00:29:31,279 --> 00:29:35,039
saying we're going to have to purchase

736
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,559
timers and labor to do that. Couple

737
00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:37,760
thousand dollars. Is that what we're

738
00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:39,600
talking now?

739
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:43,960
» Yeah, less than that. I would suggest

740
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,960
» Less than that. What about weekends?

741
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:49,919
» You would keep it the same.

742
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,600
» That's what I'm asking at. So,

743
00:29:49,919 --> 00:29:56,320
» All right. So, we'll do it seven days a

744
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:59,279
week then. Is that enough guidance?

745
00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:02,159
Yes, that's fine. Um, and I just want to

746
00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:06,159
confirm with uh Madame Clerk that she

747
00:30:02,159 --> 00:30:07,360
has that for the motion uh to confirm

748
00:30:06,159 --> 00:30:09,360
» Uh through the chair. I'm just getting

749
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,120
that motion drafted. If I could just ask

750
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,799
for clarification. Uh, Commissioner

751
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,360
Johnson, you had mentioned a time frame

752
00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:18,240
for the afternoon. So, you had 9 and

753
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,840
10:00 a.m. for the morning, 7 and 8:00

754
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,559
p.m. for the evening. What was the time

755
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:24,000
that you had noted for the afternoon?

756
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:25,200
» I think we had initially said 2 to

757
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,640
three. There is some discussion on the

758
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,760
floor right now though, Laura, just so

759
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,360
you know. I think we're we're

760
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,559
questioning that time at night because

761
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,080
people do like to go out and have a

762
00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:34,559
coffee and watch the sunset. So maybe

763
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:37,360
that that 8:00 is a bad one. Maybe we

764
00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:39,360
need to do kind of 5 to 6 or 6 to 7.

765
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,760
» 6 to 7 when people are eating dinner

766
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,200
maybe.

767
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,039
» Yeah, [laughter] I'm thinking 9 to 10 in

768
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,080
the morning is better as well. They can

769
00:30:43,039 --> 00:30:47,120
have the coffee in the morning, but

770
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:49,600
that's just me. 9 to 10, 2 to three,

771
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,600
» And then six to seven. And you do know

772
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,679
what we're doing now is we're making it

773
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,840
louder when it goes on because people

774
00:30:53,679 --> 00:30:57,120
are used to the silence. And when that

775
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,880
turns on, they're going to hear the

776
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,799
noise. So they're going to hear it three

777
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,559
times a day. And I noticed that with a

778
00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:04,080
piece of equipment I had in my plant

779
00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:05,760
that as long as we left it running, we

780
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,520
had no complaints was when we turned it

781
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,960
on and off at times it was off for a

782
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,480
couple hours complaints came.

783
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:14,760
» I know. So be prepared for

784
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,760
» One complaint at a time. That's all.

785
00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:18,480
» So anyways, so did you get that time up?

786
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,760
Yeah. Rebecca

787
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,279
» To the chair. Yes. So, I do have a

788
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,399
motion drafted. If you'd like, we can

789
00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:23,919
put it on the screen and I'll read it

790
00:31:22,399 --> 00:31:26,640
and if you have any changes, please let

791
00:31:23,919 --> 00:31:29,520
us know. Uh, so what we have drafted

792
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:31,360
currently is that report LC1 1426

793
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,440
regarding water mover noise study update

794
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,520
be received and that the commission

795
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,440
direct staff to evaluate variable timing

796
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,440
for the water movers to a maximum of 3

797
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,600
hours per day, 1 hour in the morning

798
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,840
between 9 and 10:00 a.m., 1 hour in the

799
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,200
afternoon between 2 to 3:00 p.m., and 1

800
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,840
hour in the evening between 6:00 and

801
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,679
7:00 p.m. 7 days a week. and assess the

802
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,519
impact for the remainder of the 2026

803
00:31:49,679 --> 00:31:52,960
season and that the purchase of new

804
00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:57,559
water mover pumps be referred to the

805
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,559
2027 budget process for consideration.

806
00:31:57,919 --> 00:32:02,159
» Who was the um put it on who put it

807
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,320
» I'll wear the heat for that one.

808
00:32:02,159 --> 00:32:05,760
» Did you put on the floor

809
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,240
» Through the chair? We did have uh the

810
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:10,080
deputy mayor as a mover and commissioner

811
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,480
Langden as the seconder for the

812
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,559
original.

813
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,440
» So you all right with the changes then

814
00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:15,360
you guys?

815
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,760
» Yeah, you're all right with the changes.

816
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:21,200
Okay. So, uh, no more discussion on

817
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:22,880
that. All in favor?

818
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,120
Thank you very much. Thank you very

819
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,880
much. Uh, I could I'm trying to see your

820
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:29,600
name by the lady from Tatum. Thank you

821
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:32,320
very much.

822
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:35,600
» No worries.

823
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:38,480
» We're done. Um, next one we're going to

824
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:41,760
go to 7.1.

825
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:44,720
Um, account vouchers dated July 31st,

826
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:46,159
2026.

827
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,840
uh through the chair. The motion for

828
00:32:46,159 --> 00:32:50,480
this is that the accounts vouchure date

829
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:52,000
at July 31st, 2026 be received as

830
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,080
information. Let

831
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:56,159
» Me put on the floor for me, please. I

832
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:59,840
see the mayor's looking at me and I'll

833
00:32:56,159 --> 00:33:02,559
look over here to commissioner and you

834
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:06,120
second it.

835
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:06,120
Um discussion.

836
00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:13,760
Okay, I have stuff on here. I just I got

837
00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:13,760
to find it now.

838
00:33:13,919 --> 00:33:16,919
here.

839
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,679
Bear with me while I find this. Thanks.

840
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:25,480
Yeah, I know. I think we're all firing

841
00:33:21,679 --> 00:33:25,480
up our computers now.

842
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,519
Does anybody got something to say while

843
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,039
I'm looking here? I do have things. I

844
00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:02,279
just have to find it. I haven't found it

845
00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:02,279
yet. Um,

846
00:34:03,039 --> 00:34:07,640
that's what happens without order, huh?

847
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:18,240
There we go. I finally found my um I

848
00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:22,480
have a couple questions on that. Um the

849
00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:26,079
scare tape, we're still using that

850
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:27,679
like we're selling it to residents.

851
00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:29,599
» Uh

852
00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:33,119
» Sorry, Mr. Chair. Yes, that's correct.

853
00:34:29,599 --> 00:34:35,599
If if a resident um is requesting it, we

854
00:34:33,119 --> 00:34:37,440
do sell it at the township office. Do

855
00:34:35,599 --> 00:34:38,960
you sell a lot of it? Like I I thought

856
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,800
we stop I thought we stopped um

857
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:44,240
supplying it.

858
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:47,359
» Uh no, we don't sell uh a lot of it. I

859
00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:51,679
think this was the first um that we sold

860
00:34:47,359 --> 00:34:53,919
this year. Um it we may sell one or two

861
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:55,599
uh a year. It is in our fees and charges

862
00:34:53,919 --> 00:34:56,399
bylaw that we do have it available for

863
00:34:55,599 --> 00:34:57,920
them.

864
00:34:56,399 --> 00:35:00,720
» Now I know where the my neighbor got it

865
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:04,320
from because I saw them with it. Um the

866
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:06,560
insurance is 16. Um the question I had,

867
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,880
I guess the $6,614

868
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,960
to find the anchor for the um water

869
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,400
moves. Are we going to identify where

870
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:15,200
because I think we've done this before.

871
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:17,200
Uh can we identify where it is so that

872
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:19,040
or do you need them to dive down to tie

873
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,400
onto it or can we put some sort of boy

874
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,920
on it or something so that we know where

875
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,320
it is?

876
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:27,040
» Uh through Mr. Chair, we'll we'll look

877
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:30,079
at that for this year. Yes, that was the

878
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:32,000
challenge was that um with all our

879
00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:34,240
poking and proddding in the the lagoon,

880
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,640
we could not find the anchor block to

881
00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:38,720
tie the water mover to. So, we were able

882
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:41,440
to locate one ourselves, but the other

883
00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:44,800
one did require the diver. So, we'll try

884
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:47,200
and um even if we can't put a buoy in

885
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,839
because generally it's going to be also

886
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,359
over the winter that we'll need to it's

887
00:35:49,839 --> 00:35:54,160
in the springtime, we'll need to be able

888
00:35:51,359 --> 00:35:56,720
to identify it. Um, even if we GPS it,

889
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,560
it'll give us a little bit better idea

890
00:35:56,720 --> 00:36:00,160
so that we can uh try and locate it

891
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,000
again in future years.

892
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,760
» So, you don't need them to dive down and

893
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,800
hook it all up. You just have to tie it

894
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,560
down with

895
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:09,839
» Yes, it it was that we couldn't locate

896
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:12,240
the chain to connect it to it.

897
00:36:09,839 --> 00:36:13,920
» Um, the other one I had was the uh, and

898
00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:15,680
anybody wants to jump in question what

899
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,160
I've asked them is the compressor

900
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,599
repair. What was that compressor repair?

901
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,880
Is that what the ones from over on

902
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:22,640
Paradise? Is that what you were

903
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,359
repairing? false ones.

904
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:27,920
» Uh it was the compressors in the bubbler

905
00:36:25,359 --> 00:36:30,240
shed. I don't recall. I thought it was

906
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:32,800
two of them that needed to be repaired

907
00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:34,880
and they are completed now. Um that had

908
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:37,680
been brought forward as a report from

909
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:39,440
last year. We did do the expansion of

910
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,680
the bubbler system. Instead, we did the

911
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,880
repairs to the compressors.

912
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,480
» Right. Okay. Because I know the

913
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,560
compressors over at Paradise, they're

914
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,480
the they're not the very they're not a

915
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,839
good type. They wear out. So, I was

916
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,839
thinking that next time they wear out,

917
00:36:49,839 --> 00:36:53,920
we look at updating them or upgrade into

918
00:36:51,839 --> 00:36:55,839
a better system.

919
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,000
And my last one was the shed purchase.

920
00:36:55,839 --> 00:37:00,400
What was the shed for?

921
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,640
» Uh, the shed is located at our um

922
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:06,000
offload site and it was a capital

923
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:08,160
project that had been approved for 2026.

924
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,640
» Okay. Yes. That so that was the shed

925
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,240
then at the actual removing removal area

926
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,520
to keep our equipment there. Okay.

927
00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:16,560
» Correct. Yes.

928
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,760
» Okay. Um, the deputy mayor,

929
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,359
» Uh, I just had a couple questions from

930
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,119
residents. Something I don't see on the

931
00:37:19,359 --> 00:37:22,560
vouchers. Who does the cleaning? And is

932
00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:24,720
there anybody who does a cleaning or

933
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,560
maintenance, cleans the sand or picks up

934
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:28,240
garbage or empties garbage? What what

935
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,359
line would that fall under? I don't see

936
00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:31,920
it.

937
00:37:29,359 --> 00:37:34,160
» So that uh through you, Mr. Chair, that

938
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,640
is the contracted services for Summit

939
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:39,839
Property Group. Um, Summit is the

940
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:42,320
contractor this year for one both the

941
00:37:39,839 --> 00:37:44,880
uh, lawn cutting as well as the garbage

942
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,960
pickup and um, and maintenance of the

943
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,320
sites, the beaches.

944
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,880
» Followup.

945
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,640
» You have follow?

946
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,839
» Yeah, I just had a followup. Uh, do they

947
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,119
just do it when they come to cut the

948
00:37:51,839 --> 00:37:54,640
grass, they just do a quick clean and

949
00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:56,320
empty the garbages once a week or do

950
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,520
they come back more often than once a

951
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,079
week?

952
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:02,160
» Uh, through you, Mr. Chair. I'd have to

953
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:06,240
look back at the requirements of the

954
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:08,960
contract. Um, I do know that they're uh

955
00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:10,560
we've been working well with them and

956
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:13,040
they'll be following whatever we've

957
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,320
requested them to be doing. Um, off the

958
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,920
top of my head, I don't recall what

959
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,119
those requirements are.

960
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,480
» Okay. Thank you. I don't I don't know.

961
00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:19,760
It may be something we need to ask the

962
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,040
public if they feel there's needs to be

963
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,040
more cleaning. There may be something we

964
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,480
want to add to the next contract. That's

965
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,240
» Thank you.

966
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,240
» Well, to follow up on that, um, we had

967
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:29,599
looked at getting a sinker to go in

968
00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:31,040
there. We actually got went over to

969
00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:33,599
Barry and took a look at some of that

970
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:36,079
equipment and it's really expensive. We

971
00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:37,680
were hopefully trying to say tie into

972
00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:39,119
council because with their public

973
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,880
beaches and utilize something like that,

974
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:42,720
but that didn't seem to go anywhere. But

975
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,560
it really works well. You go to most of

976
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:46,079
these beaches like Barry, desert, all of

977
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,480
them, they have this piece of equipment,

978
00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:50,400
they move it around and it cleans up

979
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:53,040
everything. It just filters. It really

980
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,880
does a great job. Um, the one thing down

981
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:57,280
there on that beach too is when they do

982
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,520
that plowing, what we have to do is make

983
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,920
sure that they go from end to end

984
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:04,160
because we've probably lost over what 50

985
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,920
100 feet of our beaches because they

986
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,680
haven't pulled it out. I think they use

987
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,839
like a plow or something that they pull

988
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,359
back and forth and they just really all

989
00:39:09,839 --> 00:39:13,599
they're doing is just moving the dirt

990
00:39:11,359 --> 00:39:15,520
and turning it over. But what was

991
00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:17,359
happening was the sides were all coming

992
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,800
in. And you go take a look at the

993
00:39:17,359 --> 00:39:20,880
especially the North Beach. The North

994
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,480
Beach has lost maybe half of its beach.

995
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,560
It's all gone and you can't go

996
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,880
afterwards as Laura has told me. We

997
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:30,960
can't go in there.

998
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:35,320
» Yeah. Um uh Commissioner

999
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,320
Chairman Beach Security

1000
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:41,440
have

1001
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:43,839
uh

1002
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:48,560
for

1003
00:39:43,839 --> 00:39:52,440
the beach the the beach security piece.

1004
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,440
I have uh

1005
00:39:54,720 --> 00:40:02,960
for for uh the for 2025 it's 25 and then

1006
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:04,560
for 2026 is 10. It's been reduced. Is

1007
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:07,560
there any consideration to having it

1008
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,560
increased?

1009
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,599
» Uh sorry.

1010
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,280
» Yes. Yes. Thank you.

1011
00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:15,359
» Uh through you Mr. Chair. That'll be

1012
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,160
discussion at budget. So not at this

1013
00:40:15,359 --> 00:40:19,520
report.

1014
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,520
» Okay. Thank you.

1015
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:25,839
Um, any other questions?

1016
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:31,560
All in favor?

1017
00:40:25,839 --> 00:40:31,560
Pass. And next one is uh 7.2

1018
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,000
uh through the chair. This motion is

1019
00:40:34,079 --> 00:40:38,640
that the budget to actuals report dated

1020
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:41,640
July 31st, 2026 be received as

1021
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,640
information

1022
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:47,839
on the floor. Mayor, second by

1023
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:49,760
Commissioner um Hart. Um, any

1024
00:40:47,839 --> 00:40:51,280
discussion? Seems as we're all there on

1025
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:54,160
point. Uh, mayor,

1026
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:56,880
» I'm just looking at uh I guess second

1027
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,800
last page here. The harvester repair was

1028
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,960
12,000. So that was over budget, but

1029
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:03,359
every year we've always budgeted 15. Was

1030
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:08,839
that a typo when we only budgeted 5,000

1031
00:41:03,359 --> 00:41:08,839
this year or was it just 5,000 budgeted?

1032
00:41:12,319 --> 00:41:18,560
» Um, Laura is there. Laura

1033
00:41:15,119 --> 00:41:21,200
» Uh through sorry which line was that Mr.

1034
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:24,640
» So we're on the well basically the last

1035
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:28,079
page it like the totals are on and it's

1036
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:31,440
so it's under just above capital

1037
00:41:28,079 --> 00:41:33,920
vehicles and it's number 41 harvester

1038
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,920
15,000 budgeted two years ago 12,000

1039
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:38,319
spent last year we only budgeted five or

1040
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:41,359
is that a typo because it's always been

1041
00:41:38,319 --> 00:41:43,280
15 and we're budgeting 15 for next year.

1042
00:41:41,359 --> 00:41:46,640
Yeah, through you. We were expecting

1043
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:48,480
because um we had done the significant

1044
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:51,119
repairs that we weren't expecting to

1045
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:54,079
have to do uh that much work on it this

1046
00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:55,119
year. Um and so yes, that was a correct

1047
00:41:54,079 --> 00:41:57,839
uh we were

1048
00:41:55,119 --> 00:42:00,240
» We had only budgeted 5,000 this year

1049
00:41:57,839 --> 00:42:01,760
recognizing the age and and the work

1050
00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:03,680
that does need to be done and the

1051
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:06,400
expectations of that vehicle. That's

1052
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,280
where for 2027 we've put it back in at

1053
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,119
15.

1054
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,920
» Okay. But and if I may continue, three

1055
00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:14,800
lines below that, how do we make a

1056
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:18,160
profit on the harvester trailer? We

1057
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:20,560
budgeted 300 and we've got in brackets

1058
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,079
1,200. How do we did we get money back?

1059
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,160
Was it moved to a different account?

1060
00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:27,440
What happened there?

1061
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:30,160
» Uh through you there was um a correction

1062
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:32,640
that needed to be made. So it's I'm not

1063
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,720
clear on why it's showing the negative.

1064
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,720
It should have been a zero. Uh there was

1065
00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:39,200
a charge that went to that line item and

1066
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:40,880
then was removed. Okay, I'll I'll

1067
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,319
confirm with finance. It should be at

1068
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,400
$0.

1069
00:42:42,319 --> 00:42:46,000
» Okay, that's fine. I just Yeah, we made

1070
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:49,160
a profit on a repair. I couldn't figure

1071
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,160
it out.

1072
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:56,240
» Mayor.

1073
00:42:53,119 --> 00:42:57,920
» Yeah. Um down on the last page as well

1074
00:42:56,240 --> 00:43:00,240
under capital, there's capital weed

1075
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:02,240
control. I just wanted to show find out

1076
00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:04,400
like I I think people asked because

1077
00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:05,839
we're not spraying anymore there that's

1078
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,960
not in the budget, right? We've removed

1079
00:43:05,839 --> 00:43:08,160
that from the budget. They're not paying

1080
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,640
for it and not getting it. I just want

1081
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:12,960
to clarify those things.

1082
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:15,119
» True, Mr. Chair. Yes, this capital

1083
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:19,440
project, the name of it is a little bit

1084
00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:22,400
misleading. Um it's actually uh a

1085
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:28,400
consortium of a bunch of various little

1086
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:32,319
uh items including the um north uh beach

1087
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:34,079
drainage uh work, the shed purchase. Um

1088
00:43:32,319 --> 00:43:36,720
there's a couple of other projects in

1089
00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:38,400
there. So, uh, the name is just a little

1090
00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:39,839
bit misleading, but it was all capital

1091
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:43,680
works that was approved by the

1092
00:43:39,839 --> 00:43:45,599
commission for 2027. And the spraying,

1093
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:48,160
uh, was in a different in the operating

1094
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:52,319
budget, uh, line items, and that's not

1095
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:53,680
part of the ongoing budget request.

1096
00:43:52,319 --> 00:43:55,359
» And just one more comment on that, I

1097
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,480
guess, is because we didn't do a lot of

1098
00:43:55,359 --> 00:43:58,319
the skimming at the beginning of the

1099
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,000
year, those things, do we have recognize

1100
00:43:58,319 --> 00:44:01,440
the savings or did we put that savings

1101
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,000
into overtime to get caught up in the

1102
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:07,520
weed harvesting?

1103
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:10,079
um through you, Mr. Chair. The that is

1104
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:12,720
correct that there's not I haven't run

1105
00:44:10,079 --> 00:44:15,599
the numbers to be able to see uh we did

1106
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:17,839
do overtime. We were still out on the

1107
00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:20,240
boats and doing some work early in the

1108
00:44:17,839 --> 00:44:21,760
season uh to get things ready to install

1109
00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:23,680
the water movers and stuff like that.

1110
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:26,880
So, there is still going to be some

1111
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:28,240
labor costs associated with it. Um and

1112
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,160
that's where we'll have to wait till

1113
00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:33,119
we're further in the season to see how

1114
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:34,800
that all shakes out.

1115
00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:36,000
We're really not be able I know I was

1116
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,000
looking for that too. We're not going to

1117
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,599
be able to tell till what October like

1118
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,319
what our costs once they all come in.

1119
00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:44,400
We'll be able to take a look at it

1120
00:44:42,319 --> 00:44:46,480
and see what there is. I I'm assuming

1121
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:49,280
there'll be a savings. And just saying

1122
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:51,280
all of that um watching what the what

1123
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,119
your uh staff did out on the water. They

1124
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,760
did a phenomenal job when they jumped on

1125
00:44:53,119 --> 00:44:57,440
it that quick and I could not believe

1126
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,760
how fast they were taking those weeds

1127
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,920
out and how fast they were moving. and

1128
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,520
that piece of equipment, the big one

1129
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,920
that went out there. This was the first

1130
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,520
time. It really showed like last year we

1131
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,680
were kind of breaking it in. It was kind

1132
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,760
of new, but this year it was phenomenal

1133
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,599
what it did. And to thank all your staff

1134
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,359
from working the overtime. We did see

1135
00:45:13,599 --> 00:45:17,119
them there, you know, working and it

1136
00:45:15,359 --> 00:45:19,760
made a big difference. It caught up so

1137
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:21,520
quickly. And I'm assuming your um

1138
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,440
complaint calls must have dropped right

1139
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,280
off because when I drove around my boat,

1140
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,880
I looked, it was amazing what what a

1141
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,520
good job they've done. And they're still

1142
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:32,960
out there working way on. So yeah, thank

1143
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:34,240
them from us. Great job done. Um, and I

1144
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,160
jumped in on there because I should have

1145
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:39,839
said that at the beginning, but yeah.

1146
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:43,119
Um, any other questions here.

1147
00:45:39,839 --> 00:45:46,480
All in favor? That's what

1148
00:45:43,119 --> 00:45:48,720
Okay, we'll move to the front one.

1149
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,240
7.3.

1150
00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:53,280
Um,

1151
00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:54,880
Rebecca. Oh, sorry. I see Laura put her

1152
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,880
hand up.

1153
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,960
» Uh, through you, Mr. Chair. I'll let uh

1154
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,640
the clerk read the motion and I just

1155
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:03,119
have a couple of updates before we get

1156
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:05,839
into some discussion before we get too

1157
00:46:03,119 --> 00:46:08,640
far if after the motion is on the floor.

1158
00:46:05,839 --> 00:46:10,480
» Okay.

1159
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:13,359
» Uh through the chair, the motion for

1160
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:16,000
this item is as follows. that report LC

1161
00:46:13,359 --> 00:46:18,400
1326 regarding draft Lagoon City Parks

1162
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,800
and Waterways Commission 2027 budget be

1163
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:22,319
received and that the draft 2027

1164
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,760
operating and capital budgets for the

1165
00:46:22,319 --> 00:46:26,000
Lagoon City Parks and Waterways

1166
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:28,960
Commission attached to schedules A and B

1167
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:31,920
to report LC 1326 be presented to

1168
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:34,160
council for consideration

1169
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:37,280
» Put on the floor

1170
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:39,839
deputy mayor second by um commissioner

1171
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:41,760
Lang

1172
00:46:39,839 --> 00:46:45,119
discussion

1173
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:49,359
got myself organized here now for this.

1174
00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:51,680
» So, you Mr. Chair, um a couple of two

1175
00:46:49,359 --> 00:46:54,160
items. Um I did want to just give you a

1176
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:57,040
couple of small updates uh that I had

1177
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:58,720
after I had submitted the report. Um

1178
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:02,079
first one is for staff wages and

1179
00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:04,160
expenses. Uh I believe it's showing

1180
00:47:02,079 --> 00:47:07,200
$250,000.

1181
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:09,680
Um that can come down to $230,000. I was

1182
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:12,400
waiting for some adjustments from our HR

1183
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:15,599
department. Um, and then the other one

1184
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:17,839
is beach security. Uh, and yes, we would

1185
00:47:15,599 --> 00:47:20,839
like to increase that from 10,000 up to

1186
00:47:17,839 --> 00:47:20,839
15,000.

1187
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,960
So those two lines will be different

1188
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:32,480
than what were submitted as

1189
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:35,040
» Sorry, Laura, could you The numbers were

1190
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:38,040
» Yeah. So staff wages would change to

1191
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,040
$230,000,

1192
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,560
» Right?

1193
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:48,280
» And the line item for beach security

1194
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:48,280
would be 15,000

1195
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,960
» And then to have discussions. So, so

1196
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:59,119
starting all this like and the one thing

1197
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,800
I've noticed and I'm not sure whether or

1198
00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:03,200
not you've noticed it too, mayor, deputy

1199
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:06,240
mayor, that normally when we get this

1200
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:07,680
and when it's showing that it's a zero

1201
00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:09,760
increase like this is what they're

1202
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:12,400
recommending here, the zero increase

1203
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:15,200
when we look at that

1204
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,720
like on this whole budget is that when

1205
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,800
it's all finished in the bottom line

1206
00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:22,240
dollars and I'm trying to find that too,

1207
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:25,119
is that recognizing a zero increase in

1208
00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:27,200
any capital cost now or anything new

1209
00:48:25,119 --> 00:48:32,880
that we add, it's going to increase the

1210
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:35,040
actual um um um possible increase

1211
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:37,040
like where where is all that? Like

1212
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:39,440
normally you can see that here's where

1213
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:41,920
we're at. Here's what it's actually um

1214
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:45,119
here's our budget and if we want to add

1215
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:47,760
something it means the the the actual

1216
00:48:45,119 --> 00:48:49,200
increase it goes up on that it and and I

1217
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,680
don't see any of that there. I don't see

1218
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:54,240
how I can bring it back and forth.

1219
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:56,079
» So through you, Mr. Chair, this was uh

1220
00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:58,319
presented this way based on comments

1221
00:48:56,079 --> 00:49:00,160
from last year's presentation that the

1222
00:48:58,319 --> 00:49:02,880
operating and the capital be separated.

1223
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:05,200
So that's what I have done this year. Um

1224
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:07,599
in the body of the report, you'll note

1225
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:10,640
that there is a proposed transfer to

1226
00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:15,280
reserves of approximately I think it was

1227
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:17,359
300 and um let me just pull it up uh

1228
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,760
$350,000.

1229
00:49:17,359 --> 00:49:22,800
That's an estimate because that's at

1230
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:25,839
this point we are meeting our expenses

1231
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:27,359
are being met by the revenues and at

1232
00:49:25,839 --> 00:49:31,280
this point there's a proposal of

1233
00:49:27,359 --> 00:49:33,520
$350,000 to go into the reserve. If

1234
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,359
there's a change in the capital projects

1235
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:38,480
or in the operating budget as part of

1236
00:49:35,359 --> 00:49:41,440
the discussion, that number will adjust

1237
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:43,920
to bring it to that the the budget is

1238
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,920
balanced. um it's difficult for us to

1239
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,440
present that when we aren't clear on

1240
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,760
what that's going to look like. So when

1241
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:52,559
it goes to council, that's where that

1242
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:56,160
will be presented as a a balanced

1243
00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:58,319
budget. At this point, $350,000 is going

1244
00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:03,520
to be transferred into the reserve

1245
00:49:58,319 --> 00:50:07,359
holding that levy at a 0% increase. So

1246
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:09,200
if the commission so chooses, that

1247
00:50:07,359 --> 00:50:11,920
number could go down, that number could

1248
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:13,440
go up. We could still increase the levy.

1249
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,440
This is just the recommendation from

1250
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,040
staff at this point.

1251
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:20,160
» So that's really my answer right there

1252
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:21,920
that that you're at budget plus 350,000

1253
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,280
to go into reserves.

1254
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:26,240
» That's how that's how I have to read

1255
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:28,160
that then. Okay. So when I look at that

1256
00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:31,040
now and I guess my other question was I

1257
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:35,160
was just kind of curious. Um do you know

1258
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:35,160
what our reserves are right now?

1259
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:40,559
» Um Miss Fischer is on and maybe she can

1260
00:50:38,319 --> 00:50:45,040
question for us.

1261
00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:47,440
» Yes. Um through you Cal I've got um so

1262
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:49,200
if you have referred to the 2025 uh

1263
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,960
financial statements the balance for

1264
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:55,680
LCVW per the financial statements of

1265
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:58,160
December 31st 2025 was about 892,000.

1266
00:50:55,680 --> 00:51:01,520
We budgeted a transfer to reserves in

1267
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:04,319
2026 of 178,400.

1268
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:07,760
So our projected ending balance in

1269
00:51:04,319 --> 00:51:08,960
December will be about 1,70,000

1270
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,800
and that doesn't account for the

1271
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,559
interest on reserve funds yet. We're not

1272
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,520
certain what the um percentage might be

1273
00:51:12,559 --> 00:51:16,800
by the end of the year, but

1274
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:18,800
approximately $20,000 increase there. Um

1275
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:21,119
given Laura's report, we've currently

1276
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,960
got a um transfer to reserves of about

1277
00:51:21,119 --> 00:51:26,160
350,000,

1278
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:28,880
which might be reduced uh or increased

1279
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:31,680
based on decisions today. Um but this is

1280
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:36,200
looking at a projected December 2027

1281
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:36,200
balance of 1.4 million.

1282
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:44,319
» Okay, so that's our reserves now. So

1283
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:47,599
um with our our income statement, what

1284
00:51:44,319 --> 00:51:49,200
is what is the normal reserves that we

1285
00:51:47,599 --> 00:51:52,559
should have? Like just so everybody

1286
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:54,000
knows like um what should what because I

1287
00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:55,680
know there was a number that we were

1288
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:58,480
given that we should always try to keep

1289
00:51:55,680 --> 00:52:00,720
our reserves at a certain amount. Um do

1290
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:02,960
you know what that number is?

1291
00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:04,800
» I don't recall a number being given. My

1292
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,800
best recommendation would do be to

1293
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,480
maintain a reserve to meet future

1294
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,599
capital expenditures or anything that

1295
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,119
you might need to pull from their

1296
00:52:09,599 --> 00:52:12,640
reserves

1297
00:52:11,119 --> 00:52:14,640
um

1298
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:17,599
for future years. So if you have a

1299
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:20,559
future plan um and you're anticipating

1300
00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:24,240
additional expenses um a good reserve

1301
00:52:20,559 --> 00:52:27,680
would be to keep um to keep sufficient

1302
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:29,119
funds for future costs.

1303
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,880
Um, deputy mayor,

1304
00:52:29,119 --> 00:52:33,119
» I'm just wondering, would this benefit

1305
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,400
us to create a 10-year capital plan like

1306
00:52:33,119 --> 00:52:36,480
the township does, like most

1307
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:38,400
municipalities does specifically for the

1308
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,000
commission? This would help us plan for

1309
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,079
reserves and know exactly what we need

1310
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,599
in there, anticipate new purchase of

1311
00:52:42,079 --> 00:52:44,800
equipment or things we want to look at

1312
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:47,200
down the road.

1313
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:51,040
» I thought

1314
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:54,000
um we'll I guess with Laura first.

1315
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:56,079
» Uh through you, Mr. Chair. Um, I do

1316
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:58,800
agree that we should be updating the

1317
00:52:56,079 --> 00:53:00,720
10-year capital plan. Um, I'm not sure

1318
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,800
if there had been one in the past, but

1319
00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:04,319
we would like to look at that. Uh, and

1320
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,000
the hope is that we'd bring that to the

1321
00:53:04,319 --> 00:53:07,440
September meeting so that we have that

1322
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,880
information.

1323
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:11,680
» Exactly. Because I don't want people to

1324
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:13,359
think that 1,100,000 is a fantastic

1325
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:15,520
reserves when, you know, if a piece of

1326
00:53:13,359 --> 00:53:16,960
equipment goes, you're you're talking a

1327
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,480
half a million dollars like for the

1328
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,240
equipment that we have. So, you've got

1329
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:22,079
to constantly be saving for. And that's

1330
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:23,839
something that we didn't have when we

1331
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:25,440
first became parks and waterways and we

1332
00:53:23,839 --> 00:53:27,119
needed this and I I just want to make

1333
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:30,319
sure we stay with it and that's why I'm

1334
00:53:27,119 --> 00:53:33,440
bringing it up right now. All right.

1335
00:53:30,319 --> 00:53:35,040
Okay. So, um I guess sorry did Lord do

1336
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,640
you need us to pass a motion to to

1337
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,640
create that or are you good with that

1338
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:41,599
direction?

1339
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,960
» Uh through you, Mr. Chair. I'm good with

1340
00:53:41,599 --> 00:53:44,319
that direction. We'll bring that at the

1341
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,520
September meeting. That was part of our

1342
00:53:44,319 --> 00:53:48,480
plan anyway. So,

1343
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:50,160
» Perfect. Thank you.

1344
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:52,400
Did you want to just go through page by

1345
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,160
page and go through this? Do you? Um I I

1346
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:57,280
can we go through it quickly like now

1347
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:59,359
like go through the pages like

1348
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:01,359
well I was just like doing the prep at

1349
00:53:59,359 --> 00:54:03,839
the beginning like I'm not sure if you

1350
00:54:01,359 --> 00:54:04,559
looked at I I know um commission Hart I

1351
00:54:03,839 --> 00:54:06,319
think the mayor

1352
00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:07,839
» Why don't we just do it page by page and

1353
00:54:06,319 --> 00:54:09,200
then you're covering it and we can ask

1354
00:54:07,839 --> 00:54:09,440
our questions is that's usually the

1355
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:10,720
question.

1356
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:13,280
» Okay. So I'm going to do like and I'm

1357
00:54:10,720 --> 00:54:15,359
starting uh I think it's uh page one I

1358
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:17,440
got one to seven the way I did it but um

1359
00:54:15,359 --> 00:54:20,079
agenda 7.3

1360
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:21,920
um so the very first page it's a

1361
00:54:20,079 --> 00:54:25,040
background and discussion anybody have

1362
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:27,040
anything to talk about there

1363
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,559
um

1364
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:32,160
the expan the only thing I had the

1365
00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:33,920
expansion of the bubbler system um I I'm

1366
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:36,400
not sure have we not finished the total

1367
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:38,480
expansion and we are looking at the next

1368
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,240
expansion or do you have two in line

1369
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,242
right Yeah, like you have another

1370
00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:42,319
expansion

1371
00:54:42,242 --> 00:54:44,240
[clears throat]

1372
00:54:42,319 --> 00:54:46,720
» Through you, Mr. Chair. We deferred the

1373
00:54:44,240 --> 00:54:51,520
expansion for 2026 to do the compressor

1374
00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:53,839
repairs. So, the proposal is to have the

1375
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:57,760
expansion that was originally proposed

1376
00:54:53,839 --> 00:54:59,280
for 2026 take place in 2027. Uh I do

1377
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:02,559
believe we were still going to have

1378
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:04,800
further discussions um before that went

1379
00:55:02,559 --> 00:55:07,599
for procurement to determine exactly

1380
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:09,520
where the expansion was going to be. Uh

1381
00:55:07,599 --> 00:55:11,280
this is just an earmark for that project

1382
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,640
to continue.

1383
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,079
» And are we going to talk about that

1384
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:18,119
today?

1385
00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:18,119
» No, not at this meeting.

1386
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:25,079
» Any other questions on the first page?

1387
00:55:21,839 --> 00:55:25,079
Second page.

1388
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:32,400
Um I guess my first question on it when

1389
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:34,079
I'm going down is the concrete pad. Is

1390
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,599
that to put the bin on in the new uh

1391
00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:38,400
takeoff area that we have down by the

1392
00:55:35,599 --> 00:55:38,400
mailboxes?

1393
00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:43,920
Um through you, Mr. Chair. I'm going to

1394
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:46,920
actually ask Mr. Lenny to address that

1395
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,920
question.

1396
00:55:47,119 --> 00:55:51,839
» Uh through you, Mr. Chair. Yes, that's

1397
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:55,760
exactly um the proposal for the pad is

1398
00:55:51,839 --> 00:55:58,480
to um have a bin area and then a safe

1399
00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:01,760
secure area for offloading. um at this

1400
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:04,720
time with the uh the weeds and the

1401
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:07,520
gravel at this time it gets very um

1402
00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:10,000
slippery and I guess messy for lack of a

1403
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:12,160
better term. So looking to uh clean that

1404
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:15,520
area up and uh make it safer for the

1405
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:16,640
operators and aesthetically um nicer uh

1406
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:19,200
for the area.

1407
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:21,599
» So the the actual concrete pad's not for

1408
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:23,440
the actual bin. It's just for the area.

1409
00:56:21,599 --> 00:56:24,960
» No, it will encompass the it will for

1410
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,880
the bin to sit on as well. Yeah,

1411
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:29,040
» It will. Okay. It'll put the bin across

1412
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:31,599
and I guess we'll get that price after.

1413
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,960
Um, also, was there an issue with the

1414
00:56:31,599 --> 00:56:34,559
flooding there? Is that kind of why

1415
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,680
we're doing that? From what I

1416
00:56:34,559 --> 00:56:37,200
understand, you guys were underwater

1417
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:39,359
there for a while, right?

1418
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:41,359
» Um, yes. I can't really speak exactly to

1419
00:56:39,359 --> 00:56:42,880
the flooding. Um, I have only been here

1420
00:56:41,359 --> 00:56:45,359
four weeks, but by the time that I have

1421
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:48,480
spent down there, um, every time I've

1422
00:56:45,359 --> 00:56:50,799
been down there, there is, um, standing

1423
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,799
water. Um, I wouldn't say it's flooded

1424
00:56:50,799 --> 00:56:55,920
out, but it's definitely standing water

1425
00:56:52,799 --> 00:56:58,880
um, and mud.

1426
00:56:55,920 --> 00:57:00,240
All right. Um,

1427
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:04,839
do you want me to just keep going down?

1428
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:04,839
Like I've got another question. Um,

1429
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,720
so this I guess I'm talking about the

1430
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,559
study. This is what Laura was talking

1431
00:57:14,720 --> 00:57:18,240
about. This is the study that we would

1432
00:57:16,559 --> 00:57:20,559
be looking at doing the condition of the

1433
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:22,799
canals regarding depth, aquatic growth,

1434
00:57:20,559 --> 00:57:24,480
species, so on and so forth. We have

1435
00:57:22,799 --> 00:57:26,000
done studies like that before. or do we

1436
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,520
have that information that we can

1437
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,839
utilize

1438
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:32,559
like I know there was a massive one done

1439
00:57:29,839 --> 00:57:35,680
by the college uh back I don't know

1440
00:57:32,559 --> 00:57:37,760
eight years ago seven years ago

1441
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:40,880
» Through you Mr. chair. Yes, we do have

1442
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:42,799
those th that information. Uh what we're

1443
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:46,559
looking to do is make sure that it is up

1444
00:57:42,799 --> 00:57:49,040
to date. Uh like with most studies um

1445
00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:51,200
and including uh the discussion with the

1446
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:53,599
Department of Fisheries and Oceans uh

1447
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:55,760
regarding our operations this year,

1448
00:57:53,599 --> 00:57:58,880
having that information that's up to

1449
00:57:55,760 --> 00:58:03,359
date um is really important for us to be

1450
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:05,280
able to show uh with evidence and data

1451
00:58:03,359 --> 00:58:07,040
uh what we're looking at and what we're

1452
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:09,839
proposing to do. and what the impact is

1453
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:11,920
going to be. Uh so there is information

1454
00:58:09,839 --> 00:58:13,920
available to us. it doesn't answer all

1455
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,440
of our questions that we're looking at

1456
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:18,640
and that's where this study would be

1457
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:23,040
more of a comprehensive again giving us

1458
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:26,799
targeting um monitoring programs so that

1459
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:31,040
we can benchmark um I know even thinking

1460
00:58:26,799 --> 00:58:33,920
about discussions that uh I've had um at

1461
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:36,480
various times about uh depth of the

1462
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:39,040
lagoons and dredging operations and uh

1463
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:41,040
items like that. That's what I I want to

1464
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:46,079
take that all into consideration into

1465
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:48,400
one one study. Um and also this is where

1466
00:58:46,079 --> 00:58:51,680
we would also consider

1467
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:55,200
uh what technologies are available for

1468
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:57,119
pumps um for water movers um making sure

1469
00:58:55,200 --> 00:59:00,240
that they're in the best locations and

1470
00:58:57,119 --> 00:59:02,559
doing um what we need to do. Uh I think

1471
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:05,680
it's also important to really

1472
00:59:02,559 --> 00:59:08,640
characterize with very specific

1473
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:12,720
information. for instance, you know, um

1474
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:14,240
what what is the goal of um the the

1475
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:16,400
goals that we're trying to achieve? So,

1476
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:19,520
for instance, with water movers, it's to

1477
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:21,760
manage and uh the duckweed growth. Okay.

1478
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:24,000
Well, what does it take in order for us

1479
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:27,280
to do that? What does that look like? So

1480
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:29,599
that in future years, we have that

1481
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:31,680
identifiable target. We can report back

1482
00:59:29,599 --> 00:59:33,359
to the commission and say we're meeting

1483
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:36,079
those targets or we're not meeting those

1484
00:59:33,359 --> 00:59:38,000
targets and here's why. um and also

1485
00:59:36,079 --> 00:59:40,960
putting in a monitoring program so that

1486
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:44,640
we're clear on

1487
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:46,880
um what what we're actually achieving.

1488
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:49,920
So it's not just anecdotal. It's not

1489
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:52,480
just you know um yourself as the uh

1490
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:54,960
chair walking down the road and giving

1491
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:57,839
anecdotal evidence. We have a way to

1492
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:59,599
measure um and provide that evidence. So

1493
00:59:57,839 --> 01:00:01,680
this study would be confirming all of

1494
00:59:59,599 --> 01:00:03,920
those pieces. I think the past studies

1495
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,520
have given components of that but have

1496
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,880
not been that full breadth and it's

1497
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:09,119
important for us to make sure that this

1498
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:12,000
is it stays up to date. So we'd be

1499
01:00:09,119 --> 01:00:14,240
looking at targeting an update to this

1500
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,599
moving forward probably every 5 years or

1501
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,839
so.

1502
01:00:15,599 --> 01:00:20,400
» So so this study would be strictly

1503
01:00:17,839 --> 01:00:23,440
Lagoon City like the the canals and so

1504
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:25,359
on so forth water quality things like

1505
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:27,040
that or like that's what it's going to

1506
01:00:25,359 --> 01:00:28,480
include or

1507
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:30,720
» Yeah through the chair. Yes, that's

1508
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:32,559
correct. it would only be targeting

1509
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:35,520
Lagoon City, these canals and the

1510
01:00:32,559 --> 01:00:37,200
lagoons um and looking at all of the

1511
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,640
pieces that go into the maintenance of

1512
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,480
those canals.

1513
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:42,880
» And how much input would the parks and

1514
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:45,680
waterways have with all this? Like would

1515
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:47,680
we be you would keep us informed at all

1516
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:49,839
times on this or uh I guess so because

1517
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:52,240
we have to pay for it, right?

1518
01:00:49,839 --> 01:00:54,640
» Uh through you, Mr. Chair. Yes. And I do

1519
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:57,520
expect to have engagement as part of it.

1520
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:59,680
That's where um we will be needing to

1521
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:01,680
set what those goals are. What are those

1522
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:04,240
performance targets? What are we looking

1523
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:06,559
for um and then there'll be uh

1524
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:09,839
recommendations that come back uh out of

1525
01:01:06,559 --> 01:01:12,000
that. So there will be um ongoing

1526
01:01:09,839 --> 01:01:14,640
discussions as well as probably some

1527
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:16,079
community engagement as as what I see as

1528
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:18,880
part of this study.

1529
01:01:16,079 --> 01:01:22,480
» And when will we expect to see this?

1530
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:24,079
» So um I'm expect so this is an ask for

1531
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:26,160
2027.

1532
01:01:24,079 --> 01:01:29,200
uh as soon as budget is approved for

1533
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:31,760
2027, we can start that. I am expecting

1534
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:34,240
that it will take at least three or four

1535
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:36,640
seasons dep because of the data that

1536
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:39,359
we're asking for them to be collecting.

1537
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:42,480
Um and so that would be where it would

1538
01:01:39,359 --> 01:01:45,760
likely take the entirety of 2027 to do

1539
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:47,680
the work um and then come back in 2028

1540
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:49,760
with uh recommendations.

1541
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:51,280
» Excellent. Okay.

1542
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:53,440
Um Commissioner Hart.

1543
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:55,440
» Yeah. U thank thanks Laura. I think this

1544
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,720
uh study is important. I I just missed

1545
01:01:55,440 --> 01:02:00,319
the first part. Who's actually going to

1546
01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:01,760
be conducting the study? Uh how is that

1547
01:02:00,319 --> 01:02:03,359
going to work out?

1548
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:05,200
» Uh through you, Mr. Chair, we would need

1549
01:02:03,359 --> 01:02:08,880
to go through our procurement channels

1550
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:11,040
for that. So, it's not um we haven't

1551
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:13,440
decided any of that yet. We would go out

1552
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:15,680
to market and we would also be looking

1553
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:18,160
at leveraging some of those educational

1554
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:19,839
institutions potentially uh for

1555
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:22,000
partnerships for some of the data

1556
01:02:19,839 --> 01:02:23,520
gathering as well. Um, but I do

1557
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:26,079
anticipate that there will be paid

1558
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:28,640
consultants as part of this as well.

1559
01:02:26,079 --> 01:02:30,000
» Excellent. Thank you. Anybody else have

1560
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,440
anything on this page? Uh, mayor.

1561
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,960
» Well, I don't know if it's on this page,

1562
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:35,520
but we were talking about the movers

1563
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:37,200
here. So, if we are looking at do we

1564
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:39,839
need to increase the budget to look at

1565
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:41,520
new movers, quieter movers. Where do you

1566
01:02:39,839 --> 01:02:43,200
want to see that? because we did have

1567
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:45,280
that discussion earlier that rather than

1568
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:47,040
just keep throwing money at these ones,

1569
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:49,839
we start researching for something

1570
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:52,559
quieter.

1571
01:02:49,839 --> 01:02:54,880
» Um through you, Mr. Chair, I would

1572
01:02:52,559 --> 01:02:56,799
suggest that yes, we do increase the

1573
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:59,119
budget specifically for those,

1574
01:02:56,799 --> 01:03:01,680
especially if the commission is looking

1575
01:02:59,119 --> 01:03:05,359
to potentially purchase

1576
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:07,760
» Um new pumps in 2027 as opposed to

1577
01:03:05,359 --> 01:03:10,559
waiting for 2028.

1578
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:13,520
Um my recommendation would be to

1579
01:03:10,559 --> 01:03:15,760
increase the study budget by $25,000 or

1580
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:18,880
sorry by $10,000.

1581
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:21,760
Um and potentially add another line item

1582
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:24,240
for water mover pumps

1583
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:28,079
in an amount that the commissions these

1584
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:31,200
appropriate um for the size of these

1585
01:03:28,079 --> 01:03:34,079
pumps without looking what technology is

1586
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:36,240
out there on the market. I would say

1587
01:03:34,079 --> 01:03:41,680
somewhere between

1588
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:43,680
um 30 to 50,000 per pump would be uh on

1589
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:45,599
par what I would expect to pay.

1590
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,960
» And I would expect as part of that would

1591
01:03:45,599 --> 01:03:48,799
be loc because I don't know if there was

1592
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:52,240
ever a study done on the location where

1593
01:03:48,799 --> 01:03:53,520
they sit. I I think probably 20 30 years

1594
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,559
ago they said, "Well, there's duckweed

1595
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,000
here, put a pump there, and there's

1596
01:03:54,559 --> 01:03:57,280
duckweed there. Put a pump there."

1597
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,640
» I asked that question, Kathy [laughter]

1598
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,319
Wayman. She said there was

1599
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,599
» Well, there was a exactly where it was

1600
01:04:00,319 --> 01:04:03,359
supposed to go. I think it came from the

1601
01:04:01,599 --> 01:04:04,559
engineers. Okay. I asked her, "Why don't

1602
01:04:03,359 --> 01:04:05,440
we just move it here? Do that." She

1603
01:04:04,559 --> 01:04:06,319
said, "You can't do that."

1604
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,920
» All right. Okay.

1605
01:04:06,319 --> 01:04:10,720
» That's what she told me. But I I wonder

1606
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:12,480
your pumps. So, 30,000 to 50,000. These

1607
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:15,839
uh other pumps that don't work so well

1608
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:18,079
were close to 50,000. Were they not

1609
01:04:15,839 --> 01:04:21,039
» Through you, Mr. Chair? I'm not sure

1610
01:04:18,079 --> 01:04:23,200
what those prices were. Um what the cost

1611
01:04:21,039 --> 01:04:25,359
of those previous pumps were. I just

1612
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:28,160
know the market for this type of pump is

1613
01:04:25,359 --> 01:04:28,559
isn't around that area for that size.

1614
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:29,839
Yeah.

1615
01:04:28,559 --> 01:04:31,680
» Yeah. I would like to see it a bit

1616
01:04:29,839 --> 01:04:34,000
higher than that. Yeah. But yeah, it's

1617
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,880
cuz I'm almost puzzled. It's 45,000 when

1618
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,480
I think about it. I

1619
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:38,960
» I think you're right. I would I would

1620
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:40,720
air on the side of caution say 120 for

1621
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,680
the two pumps and then we can always I

1622
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:42,319
mean it's a savings at the end of the

1623
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:46,400
day. It just goes

1624
01:04:42,319 --> 01:04:48,400
» Into reserves, right?

1625
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:50,400
» So $120,000

1626
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:53,400
for water mover pump. Okay.

1627
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,400
» Yeah.

1628
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:57,119
» Well, I want to sort of stop spending

1629
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,799
money on this. I think it's a lost

1630
01:04:57,119 --> 01:05:01,280
cause. I think it's time that we cut our

1631
01:04:58,799 --> 01:05:03,680
col our and see if anybody's in the

1632
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:06,079
market for some uh hardly used used

1633
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:08,160
pumps, right?

1634
01:05:06,079 --> 01:05:10,079
Um does anybody else got anything on

1635
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:12,640
this page two? Because that's where I

1636
01:05:10,079 --> 01:05:16,000
was at there. No, we're all done there.

1637
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:18,400
Um I got nothing on page three. Now I'm

1638
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:21,280
right into this um I guess the beginning

1639
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:24,760
of the budget

1640
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,760
starting with revenues.

1641
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,520
Um,

1642
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:34,960
that's the last one thing. Anybody would

1643
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,480
like to start, we'll do this page. You

1644
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:38,240
can start from the top and come down.

1645
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:40,079
Um,

1646
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:43,599
I guess my question is there's something

1647
01:05:40,079 --> 01:05:45,039
here. Why why is this lower? Just trying

1648
01:05:43,599 --> 01:05:48,039
to figure this number out. Hold on a

1649
01:05:45,039 --> 01:05:48,039
second.

1650
01:05:49,839 --> 01:05:52,839
Here

1651
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:59,319
it is. Here the actual.

1652
01:06:01,359 --> 01:06:04,359
Okay.

1653
01:06:04,799 --> 01:06:07,039
Sorry, mayor. If you want to go. I just

1654
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,400
have my head down.

1655
01:06:07,039 --> 01:06:09,440
» I'm not in the revenues. I'm on the

1656
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,880
expenses. I just

1657
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,079
» You're jumping ahead on us here.

1658
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:14,319
» Are you want the revenue? You want to

1659
01:06:12,079 --> 01:06:15,039
stay there? I'm just on the same page.

1660
01:06:14,319 --> 01:06:16,720
Just uh

1661
01:06:15,039 --> 01:06:19,440
» Yeah, just Yeah. On the page.

1662
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:24,319
» Yeah. on uh so legal expenses uh you

1663
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:26,160
know 20,000 in 2024 we used 19 uh 20,000

1664
01:06:24,319 --> 01:06:28,799
last year of course we went over budget

1665
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:30,880
uh last year we budgeted 20,000 we've

1666
01:06:28,799 --> 01:06:34,880
used close to eight so why are we only

1667
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:37,520
budgeting 2,000 for next year for legals

1668
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:40,000
that seems right

1669
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:42,960
» Through you uh Mr. Chair, the legal

1670
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:44,720
budget has been proposed by our new the

1671
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:48,240
township's new in-house legal

1672
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:51,839
department. He's uh reconfiguring how

1673
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:54,559
the legal will be um divvied up between

1674
01:06:51,839 --> 01:06:57,680
the different areas. And at this point,

1675
01:06:54,559 --> 01:07:00,240
uh the expectation having cleared some

1676
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:03,240
of the past legal matters that $2,000 is

1677
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:03,240
appropriate.

1678
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:08,000
I I guess my concern I don't want to be

1679
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:10,240
the devil's advocate but we know we're

1680
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,599
doing the study and part of it and we're

1681
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:14,160
going to have an open house I think in

1682
01:07:11,599 --> 01:07:15,599
Lun City later this month and it'll go

1683
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:17,520
off to a consultant who's going to bring

1684
01:07:15,599 --> 01:07:18,799
back recommendations. We don't have no

1685
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,640
idea what those recommendations are

1686
01:07:18,799 --> 01:07:21,680
going to be. We have no idea what

1687
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,680
council's going to do with those

1688
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:25,440
recommendations like council we we've

1689
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:27,680
done efficiency studies in the past

1690
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:30,480
where yes we've put some of the things

1691
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:32,000
in place but not others.

1692
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:34,720
We don't know if they're legal though.

1693
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:36,240
» Well, no. But would parks and waterways

1694
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:38,480
think they might want to get a legal

1695
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:39,359
opinion on any changes that are

1696
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,880
proposed?

1697
01:07:39,359 --> 01:07:42,480
» Well, just so you know, I actually am

1698
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:44,079
proposing that uh through [laughter]

1699
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,960
parks and waterways people go speak to

1700
01:07:44,079 --> 01:07:45,760
their own lawyer.

1701
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:48,720
» Oh, yeah.

1702
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:50,559
» So, yeah, you are. That'll be later on.

1703
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:52,720
» So, that's why I'm wondering just in

1704
01:07:50,559 --> 01:07:55,280
light that there is an efficiency study

1705
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:56,160
being done. Changes may be coming

1706
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,480
whether or not

1707
01:07:56,160 --> 01:08:00,240
» We've always put 20,000.

1708
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:02,400
I would not want to see it lowered at

1709
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:04,400
this time. Again, I won't be here, but

1710
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:06,319
you may want to have a legal opinion on

1711
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:08,720
suggested changes that council is

1712
01:08:06,319 --> 01:08:10,079
deciding to make that that

1713
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:12,240
» I agree with you. Actually, I'd marked

1714
01:08:10,079 --> 01:08:13,520
it.

1715
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,400
» So, what do you want to bring it up to?

1716
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:18,200
Back to what it was

1717
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:18,200
» Back to the 20, I think.

1718
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:27,199
» Oh, yeah.

1719
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:28,719
» Okay. So, we're going to So, are you is

1720
01:08:27,199 --> 01:08:30,560
someone going to track that for us then?

1721
01:08:28,719 --> 01:08:34,159
Okay, Rebecca. Perfect. So, we're going

1722
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:36,080
to increase that to 20 then. Um, I guess

1723
01:08:34,159 --> 01:08:38,880
I guess my question too was going back

1724
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:43,600
to staff wages and expenses.

1725
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:47,040
The actual in 2026 is 130,000 and now in

1726
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:48,560
2027 it's jumped to 250. That's a fair

1727
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:50,960
jump. I was just c Oh, sorry. I got

1728
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:52,799
Laura's hand up. You're stepping ahead

1729
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:55,279
of you time.

1730
01:08:52,799 --> 01:08:59,040
The 2026 actuals are not on this

1731
01:08:55,279 --> 01:09:05,359
schedule. That's the 2025 actual. Um,

1732
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:08,239
and so 2026 budget was 20 225,500

1733
01:09:05,359 --> 01:09:12,159
and we're going to 230,000. So it's a

1734
01:09:08,239 --> 01:09:14,560
small increase. Um, and the the actuals

1735
01:09:12,159 --> 01:09:16,159
for 2026 will be on the most recent

1736
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:19,120
report. You'd have to add up all the

1737
01:09:16,159 --> 01:09:22,960
wages and and staff, but I did do that

1738
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:26,839
as preparation. And we are on R for the

1739
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:26,839
spend of 225,400.

1740
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:32,880
» Okay. I thought 20256.

1741
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:34,159
» It It says 2027 pro proposed is 250. Is

1742
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:36,080
that what you're talking about?

1743
01:09:34,159 --> 01:09:38,000
» Oh, she did. Okay. I didn't miss that.

1744
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,400
» She corrected it back to 230 at the

1745
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:41,640
start.

1746
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:41,640
» Okay. Gotcha.

1747
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:49,920
» Okay. Got that. All right. That was

1748
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:53,199
good. That's good. Um the actual levy

1749
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:55,040
That's where I was on.

1750
01:09:53,199 --> 01:09:56,800
I just was curious why it bounces

1751
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:58,880
around. We should be almost dead on that

1752
01:09:56,800 --> 01:10:00,719
level, right?

1753
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:03,120
Okay. Doesn't matter then. Anything else

1754
01:10:00,719 --> 01:10:05,600
on that page for anybody?

1755
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:08,000
No. Okay. Let's go to the next page. If

1756
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:10,159
you see we miss anything, Laura or um

1757
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:13,440
the I guess the treasure or not the

1758
01:10:10,159 --> 01:10:16,679
treasury but the other lady there. Um

1759
01:10:13,440 --> 01:10:16,679
next [sighs] one.

1760
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:27,480
No, I'm good with that. With that

1761
01:10:23,679 --> 01:10:27,480
pontoon boat, that's

1762
01:10:28,719 --> 01:10:33,440
um $3,500 for the pontoon. Laura, um

1763
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:36,159
that is there something wrong with it or

1764
01:10:33,440 --> 01:10:38,800
or it's just maintenance? 3500

1765
01:10:36,159 --> 01:10:42,159
» Uh through Mr. Chair. Yes, that's just

1766
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:45,360
maintenance. Um,

1767
01:10:42,159 --> 01:10:47,679
and I just realized that uh number 41,

1768
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:50,679
the harvester, uh, that should be at

1769
01:10:47,679 --> 01:10:50,679
15,000

1770
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:56,719
to match the other harvester.

1771
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:57,920
» 41, right?

1772
01:10:56,719 --> 01:11:00,920
» Yes. Correct.

1773
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,920
» Okay.

1774
01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:05,679
Again, you're getting that, Rebecca,

1775
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:08,560
right?

1776
01:11:05,679 --> 01:11:12,120
Anything

1777
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:12,120
else on that page?

1778
01:11:12,159 --> 01:11:16,520
No. There.

1779
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:25,640
» I'm at account subscription building.

1780
01:11:27,679 --> 01:11:30,480
» Before we go on to account,

1781
01:11:29,199 --> 01:11:32,320
» You want to go back to

1782
01:11:30,480 --> 01:11:33,920
» Well, I just didn't see it. I thought we

1783
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,520
continue on, but the one expense I'm not

1784
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:37,360
seeing Laura is drudging. So, are we

1785
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:40,480
done judging now where there's no more

1786
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:42,080
planned or to do in the future?

1787
01:11:40,480 --> 01:11:43,600
» Uh, through you, Mr. Chair, that is

1788
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:47,040
correct. At this point, there's no

1789
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:50,159
planned judging. Um, we had completed

1790
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:53,280
the outstanding judging that had been

1791
01:11:50,159 --> 01:11:55,120
proposed from 2023, I believe. Um, and

1792
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:57,360
again, I'm hoping that that study that

1793
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:59,679
we'd conduct next year would inform what

1794
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:02,800
future dredging would be required.

1795
01:11:59,679 --> 01:12:05,120
» Thank you. So the dredging that um Bob

1796
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:09,199
had done many many well I guess you said

1797
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:11,440
2023 right um are we still using that or

1798
01:12:09,199 --> 01:12:13,120
is that now gone to the wayside or is it

1799
01:12:11,440 --> 01:12:14,719
is because he spent a lot of time

1800
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:16,800
measuring he we he measured everything

1801
01:12:14,719 --> 01:12:18,719
out and that's what we used for the last

1802
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:21,120
number of years

1803
01:12:18,719 --> 01:12:23,840
» Uh through you Mr. chair. No, and that's

1804
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:25,440
what my understanding is. So, finally,

1805
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:27,679
uh, the last of that dredging was

1806
01:12:25,440 --> 01:12:29,760
completed in 2025.

1807
01:12:27,679 --> 01:12:32,880
And so, I believe we had completed all

1808
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:37,760
of the required dredging. That

1809
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:39,520
information would be provided to the um,

1810
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:41,440
whoever the consultant would be for the

1811
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:43,679
study to make sure that it's taken into

1812
01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:46,640
consideration going forward as well as

1813
01:12:43,679 --> 01:12:49,640
providing us with that plan for future

1814
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,640
judging.

1815
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:54,239
Did you have any more questions back

1816
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:57,040
there? No.

1817
01:12:54,239 --> 01:13:00,080
» Oh, no. No problem. Any anybody else has

1818
01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:02,880
have any here?

1819
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:06,400
Okay. So, I'm out on the last page now.

1820
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:08,239
Oh, no. Second page before I get

1821
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:09,920
um

1822
01:13:08,239 --> 01:13:11,040
so does anybody have any question on

1823
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:13,600
accounts description, building

1824
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:17,880
maintenance?

1825
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:17,880
Pretty straightforward there. Um,

1826
01:13:18,480 --> 01:13:24,640
» No. Okay, we'll go to capital

1827
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:27,040
» Before we go to capital. So, I'm showing

1828
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:28,560
we've changed the budget by 13,000. Is

1829
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:30,880
that correct? Not counting the water

1830
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:32,560
movers. I assume they go under capital

1831
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:35,520
because I believe you gave us a

1832
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:37,440
correction at the start of 15,000

1833
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:39,920
and then you just added 10 to the one

1834
01:13:37,440 --> 01:13:41,280
boat and we added 18 for the legal. So,

1835
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:44,320
is that where we are? We've increased

1836
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:46,000
the budget by 13,000 I think. Does that

1837
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:49,040
change

1838
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:50,080
uh our levy or anything that 13,000 or

1839
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:51,920
is that just going to come out of

1840
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:53,760
transfers

1841
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:55,600
» Through you? I believe that would come

1842
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:57,600
out of the transfer to reserve. That's

1843
01:13:55,600 --> 01:14:00,800
where we would balance from. We're still

1844
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:04,080
not in a significant expense that would

1845
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:06,320
impact that we have a uh a balance going

1846
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:08,811
to the reserve for 2027.

1847
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:09,120
» We've changed at 13K that I could tell.

1848
01:14:08,811 --> 01:14:11,840
[laughter]

1849
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:12,719
» Yeah, Rebecca's tracking that. Carly,

1850
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:13,679
did you have something you wanted to

1851
01:14:12,719 --> 01:14:15,440
say?

1852
01:14:13,679 --> 01:14:18,400
through you, Mr. Chair. There was

1853
01:14:15,440 --> 01:14:21,120
discussion about $120,000 for water

1854
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:22,719
mover pumps. I didn't in my sheet. I

1855
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:24,159
wasn't sure if that was already there or

1856
01:14:22,719 --> 01:14:25,840
if there was a change, just that there

1857
01:14:24,159 --> 01:14:29,199
was discussion and I'm uncertain how

1858
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:32,400
that impacted the budget.

1859
01:14:29,199 --> 01:14:34,239
» So, that would be a new ask, uh, Ms.

1860
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:36,000
Fischer. And so that would impact the

1861
01:14:34,239 --> 01:14:38,640
amount going to the reserve, but we

1862
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:40,719
would still have at this point it's

1863
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:42,239
still a surplus that we would be

1864
01:14:40,719 --> 01:14:45,120
transferring into the reserve, just a

1865
01:14:42,239 --> 01:14:49,440
smaller amount. Yeah. So right now I'm

1866
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:52,000
calculating a approximately $133,000

1867
01:14:49,440 --> 01:14:54,719
reduction to the transfer to reserves.

1868
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:57,040
So the existing 350

1869
01:14:54,719 --> 01:14:58,560
less 133 approximate. So then the

1870
01:14:57,040 --> 01:15:01,679
existing transfer to reserves is

1871
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:04,480
approximately 217,000.

1872
01:15:01,679 --> 01:15:07,760
How how much we take off the 350 130. Is

1873
01:15:04,480 --> 01:15:10,719
that what you said?

1874
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:13,199
» I don't I I can try to review the

1875
01:15:10,719 --> 01:15:15,440
minutes um after the meeting's done, but

1876
01:15:13,199 --> 01:15:17,360
based on what I've heard, it sounds like

1877
01:15:15,440 --> 01:15:21,480
$133,000

1878
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:21,480
reduction in the transfer to reserves.

1879
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:27,120
» We just did a $13,000 change here plus

1880
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:28,640
120 for the water movers would be 133.

1881
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:30,960
» And those are all capital, right?

1882
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:32,000
» No, only the water movers. Would they

1883
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:34,400
not, Carly? [clears throat] Would the

1884
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:37,360
water movers not be under capital or

1885
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:38,960
what line were we getting? Yes.

1886
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:42,400
» Uh, I I believe they would be under

1887
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:45,520
capital. Yes. Um, however, that would

1888
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:47,840
still impact the net levy requirement

1889
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:50,320
from LCPW. It would have an impact on

1890
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,960
LCPW's reserves.

1891
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:53,440
» Yeah.

1892
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:55,760
» Okay. So, did that come off our the

1893
01:15:53,440 --> 01:15:57,360
transfer reserves 13? Did it go into

1894
01:15:55,760 --> 01:16:01,480
capital?

1895
01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:01,480
» Yeah. Where are we putting water?

1896
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,400
Sorry, turn your mic on. I can't hear

1897
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:07,679
the

1898
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:10,000
» Oh, sorry. I thought it was on. I shut

1899
01:16:07,679 --> 01:16:11,679
it off. Where did we put the 120 for the

1900
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:13,600
water movers? Is that going to go in

1901
01:16:11,679 --> 01:16:15,440
capital now as a new line?

1902
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:17,280
» Correct. Yes, that's what I've proposed.

1903
01:16:15,440 --> 01:16:20,280
It'll be a new capital project.

1904
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:20,280
» Right.

1905
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:31,080
» Okay. Okay, so now we're at the capital.

1906
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:39,320
So just just put my head down here. Look

1907
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:39,320
at this one.

1908
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:48,040
So

1909
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:56,239
» Okay. So, um, deputy mayor,

1910
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,520
» What all has to be done with the kiosk?

1911
01:16:56,239 --> 01:16:58,880
I I understand there's a quite a bit of

1912
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:01,280
upgrades that had to be done to that

1913
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:03,360
Laura or through the chair to Laura. Um

1914
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:06,679
is 165 going to be anywhere near what we

1915
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:06,679
need for that?

1916
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:12,400
» Um through you, Mr. Chair. That was the

1917
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:15,199
proposal that we've put in. Uh we've

1918
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:17,040
earmarked for it. I believe there's some

1919
01:17:15,199 --> 01:17:19,600
electrical work and some door work as

1920
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:21,679
well as some structural repairs. Uh and

1921
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:24,640
we do think that that's going to be

1922
01:17:21,679 --> 01:17:27,440
adequate. We also suspect that there is

1923
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:30,239
also an underground water line that

1924
01:17:27,440 --> 01:17:33,360
needs to be repaired um that's providing

1925
01:17:30,239 --> 01:17:35,360
potable water to the kiosk. Um and that

1926
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:39,920
that will be a significant portion of

1927
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:42,159
the 16,000 proposed. Um

1928
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:44,640
we're we're hopeful that that is

1929
01:17:42,159 --> 01:17:47,199
adequate for the repairs that are

1930
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:49,679
necessary. Uh we don't have any firm

1931
01:17:47,199 --> 01:17:50,800
quotes though on that.

1932
01:17:49,679 --> 01:17:52,480
That's why we couldn't get Georgia

1933
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:54,159
College carpentry or something to do

1934
01:17:52,480 --> 01:17:56,880
bring some students and do some project

1935
01:17:54,159 --> 01:17:58,400
on it.

1936
01:17:56,880 --> 01:18:00,320
It's pretty tough to do that though in

1937
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:02,960
public.

1938
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:04,400
Um I I as far as I'm concerned the kiosk

1939
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:06,159
we should just maintain it for now

1940
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:07,840
because we're not really using it. But I

1941
01:18:06,159 --> 01:18:10,000
think in the future it'll be used. It's

1942
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:12,880
not something we want to fall down. We

1943
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:15,280
all agree with that.

1944
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:17,199
Um when I the clean flow system here,

1945
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:20,000
this $55,000,

1946
01:18:17,199 --> 01:18:22,480
right? That's what we had budgeted um I

1947
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:26,880
guess 2026. You just want to increase it

1948
01:18:22,480 --> 01:18:29,280
by another 10,000 and up to 65,000.

1949
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:31,520
» We we can if that's what the commission

1950
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:33,520
» No, it says here 65,000 your proposed

1951
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:36,640
budget. So

1952
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:38,960
» I I I guess what I'm asking is

1953
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:41,679
what what are actual what do we plan on

1954
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:43,600
doing like for $65,000? Like what's left

1955
01:18:41,679 --> 01:18:45,360
that we have to do?

1956
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:48,480
I'd have to pull the maps and I don't

1957
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:51,120
have that um with me at this moment. I

1958
01:18:48,480 --> 01:18:53,679
increased it to $65,000 just to account

1959
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:56,320
for inflation over the time period from

1960
01:18:53,679 --> 01:19:00,800
the original quotes from 2020

1961
01:18:56,320 --> 01:19:03,600
» Uh 4 or 2025 budget preparation in for

1962
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:06,719
2026. So that was why I added 10,000 was

1963
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:08,239
just to account for inflation.

1964
01:19:06,719 --> 01:19:10,080
» Um Carly, did you want to say something

1965
01:19:08,239 --> 01:19:11,360
to that?

1966
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:13,389
No, when I see you appear there,

1967
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:13,920
normally you want to say something

1968
01:19:13,389 --> 01:19:15,920
[laughter]

1969
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:17,360
» Through you, Mr. Chair. No, I I just

1970
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:19,440
turned my video back on. I didn't have

1971
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:21,520
any additional comments at this time. Um

1972
01:19:19,440 --> 01:19:23,679
I I guess really what we need to do is

1973
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:26,320
um for the 65,000 we probably could do

1974
01:19:23,679 --> 01:19:28,239
the extension from the um two pumps that

1975
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:30,960
are on Turtle right now because that was

1976
01:19:28,239 --> 01:19:33,199
our next step because um I was trying to

1977
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:37,679
figure out why there was no um uh clean

1978
01:19:33,199 --> 01:19:40,239
flow, no bubblers um across from the um

1979
01:19:37,679 --> 01:19:42,400
the the sailboats and I think that's

1980
01:19:40,239 --> 01:19:44,320
what we've been waiting for. And that

1981
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:46,560
expansion all that includes are pipes

1982
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:48,159
and diffusers. There's no pump houses or

1983
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:50,239
anything we have to get. we can go on

1984
01:19:48,159 --> 01:19:52,480
the existing um pumps that are there and

1985
01:19:50,239 --> 01:19:54,320
that would give us enough to connect to

1986
01:19:52,480 --> 01:19:56,640
there and then connect back up towards

1987
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:57,679
the inn and we would have that and the

1988
01:19:56,640 --> 01:20:01,040
only thing that would be left would be

1989
01:19:57,679 --> 01:20:04,000
Gondola Lagoon from Popppler down to uh

1990
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:05,920
um the end um to South Island Trail to

1991
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:08,159
the bridge. That would be it. And then

1992
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:10,719
the marina those only spots we have left

1993
01:20:08,159 --> 01:20:12,480
to really look at and I think you

1994
01:20:10,719 --> 01:20:13,920
probably only need one more house maybe

1995
01:20:12,480 --> 01:20:17,120
if we're a little bit of luck or maybe

1996
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:18,880
another house along Gondola. So that's

1997
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:20,880
really what we're looking at right now.

1998
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:23,760
But are we going to talk about that at a

1999
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:25,520
later date then or uh more what we're

2000
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:27,600
going to do next

2001
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:30,159
» Through you, Mr. Chair? Yes. That's the

2002
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:31,760
idea is that we'll put in $65,000 that

2003
01:20:30,159 --> 01:20:34,159
will allow for us to do some of the

2004
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:38,239
expansion work and we'll bring forward

2005
01:20:34,159 --> 01:20:40,800
what the plan will be um at a later date

2006
01:20:38,239 --> 01:20:42,480
for it depicting exactly what we're

2007
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:44,400
proposing for each year.

2008
01:20:42,480 --> 01:20:46,400
» And I'm going to go backwards now. Um

2009
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:48,880
what about the treatments that we've

2010
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:51,360
done with the um the the bubbler system,

2011
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:52,960
the clean flow system? You're examining

2012
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:54,640
all of that. Do we have money built in

2013
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:58,560
for that this year

2014
01:20:54,640 --> 01:21:00,239
» If we decide to re renew our treatments

2015
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:01,520
» Uh through you, Mr. Chair? Yes. That was

2016
01:21:00,239 --> 01:21:02,400
still incorporated as part of the

2017
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,080
budget.

2018
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:06,000
» Do you know when you're going to have um

2019
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:07,679
that finished that we know if not we're

2020
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:09,760
going to continue treatments?

2021
01:21:07,679 --> 01:21:12,159
» Uh it's still under review at this time.

2022
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:14,080
» It's under review. Okay. So you don't

2023
01:21:12,159 --> 01:21:15,440
have it's gone to the government. So,

2024
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:16,320
uh, to the ministry and so on and so

2025
01:21:15,440 --> 01:21:18,080
forth.

2026
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:20,080
» We're we're reviewing it internally

2027
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:22,000
first and so and then we'll reach out to

2028
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:23,840
any partners that we need to. So,

2029
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:25,360
» Okay. But again, did I don't know if I

2030
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:26,800
heard do we have money in for the

2031
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:28,960
treatments or

2032
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:30,800
» We didn't adjust the budget to to not

2033
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,920
treat for it? So, that should still be

2034
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:37,360
in the budget. Yes.

2035
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:40,920
» Okay. I just wanted to confirm that. Um,

2036
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:40,920
temple insurancees.

2037
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:47,679
Um, do we have a rough idea what the

2038
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:49,040
labor charge is like the town like for

2039
01:21:47,679 --> 01:21:51,360
what we're being built for everything

2040
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:52,960
here on this? Is there rough numbers on

2041
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:55,760
that yet or do I see them? Because I

2042
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:58,560
know it started off at around 220 and I

2043
01:21:55,760 --> 01:22:01,199
know last year um Gail brought it up by

2044
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:05,360
another 50,000 60,000. So I'm just

2045
01:22:01,199 --> 01:22:07,120
curious where that number is at now.

2046
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:08,960
It's our labor charges. Yeah.

2047
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:12,719
» Our staff wages and expenses are

2048
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:14,320
proposed to be 230,000 for 2027.

2049
01:22:12,719 --> 01:22:14,960
» It's 230 then.

2050
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:17,840
» Yes.

2051
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:19,840
» Okay. Because I know it was that and I

2052
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:21,040
support Gail said it was be there was

2053
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,480
going to be an increase of almost

2054
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:26,480
50,000.

2055
01:22:22,480 --> 01:22:29,280
» So 2026's budget. So 2025's budget for

2056
01:22:26,480 --> 01:22:34,159
staff wages was 173,000.

2057
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:37,679
2026 we changed it to 225,400

2058
01:22:34,159 --> 01:22:42,320
and for 2027 it's 230,000

2059
01:22:37,679 --> 01:22:44,639
» 230 okay is that that does that include

2060
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:46,000
that does include the um the harvesting

2061
01:22:44,639 --> 01:22:46,480
people does it or does that include the

2062
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,239
harvesting

2063
01:22:46,480 --> 01:22:50,320
» That's all staff wages

2064
01:22:48,239 --> 01:22:53,560
» Everything yes

2065
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:53,560
» Thank you

2066
01:22:56,320 --> 01:23:01,120
» Okay I'm actually pretty good with all

2067
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:04,560
this So, I'm not seeing an increase yet

2068
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:06,400
for any I don't see an increase.

2069
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:09,120
» No, I'm I'm just wondering at some point

2070
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:11,280
in time if if there if would help Laura,

2071
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:13,120
should the commission kind of give him

2072
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:15,040
some time to get some capital project

2073
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:16,480
ideas for you for building this 10ear

2074
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:18,400
capital? What is should we have a

2075
01:23:16,480 --> 01:23:19,520
meeting specific to that? Right? Because

2076
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:21,040
if we're going to build a 10-year

2077
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:23,360
planet, then we should be looking at do

2078
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:24,960
we want to add a beach cleaner to it at

2079
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:26,800
some point? Start acrewing money so we

2080
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:28,320
can save up for it. I'm not sure. But

2081
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:29,199
what what do the people want to see,

2082
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:31,040
right?

2083
01:23:29,199 --> 01:23:32,639
» Well, we roughly did one. I remember

2084
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:34,080
doing it a few years ago. We roughly

2085
01:23:32,639 --> 01:23:35,840
did, but there's something out there

2086
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:37,440
because I remember sitting doing it

2087
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:39,600
because we had never had it and we

2088
01:23:37,440 --> 01:23:40,320
needed I can remember doing it. So, I I

2089
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:42,080
don't know where it is.

2090
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:43,520
» But even for an updated NoCal, we should

2091
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,639
have anything new that's coming about.

2092
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:45,920
» But what you're talking about is things

2093
01:23:44,639 --> 01:23:47,440
we already talked about, right? That

2094
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:50,320
same like we've been talking about that

2095
01:23:47,440 --> 01:23:52,239
since my first term we looked at.

2096
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,600
» I'm just not sure if Laura has something

2097
01:23:52,239 --> 01:23:55,679
specific that's actually been put

2098
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:56,560
together. I'm not sure. I'm assuming

2099
01:23:55,679 --> 01:23:57,760
she's going to wait for that meeting

2100
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:58,560
that we're going to talk about right

2101
01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:59,760
now.

2102
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:01,600
» Go ahead, Laura.

2103
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:03,360
» Yeah, through you, Mr. Chair. The

2104
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:05,440
expectation will be that in September,

2105
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:07,280
we'll bring it forward and absolutely at

2106
01:24:05,440 --> 01:24:09,360
that point we can have the discussion

2107
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:12,639
with the commission and determine what

2108
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:15,600
other items need to be added in. We'll

2109
01:24:12,639 --> 01:24:18,560
put in what we've already understood. Um

2110
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:21,920
and again with us being still uh with a

2111
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:24,480
fairly short history of um what's been

2112
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:26,159
done in the past and what we need to do

2113
01:24:24,480 --> 01:24:28,400
uh we may be missing some things. But

2114
01:24:26,159 --> 01:24:30,000
that's where that we're hoping um at

2115
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:31,760
that meeting in September then we can

2116
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:34,560
bring that forward and and have those

2117
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:36,960
filled in uh to then again go forward

2118
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:40,440
and with a full 10-year plan for

2119
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:40,440
council's consideration.

2120
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:45,719
» Any other questions on this?

2121
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:49,120
So, Rebecca, have you got all those

2122
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:50,480
numbers that we've talked about because

2123
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:51,120
that's what's going to come up next, I

2124
01:24:50,480 --> 01:24:52,639
guess. Right.

2125
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:54,480
» Through the chair. Yes. So, I do have an

2126
01:24:52,639 --> 01:24:55,920
amendment prepared for the motion uh

2127
01:24:54,480 --> 01:24:57,520
that I we can put on the screen and then

2128
01:24:55,920 --> 01:25:00,239
we can go through and if the commission

2129
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:02,320
has any changes uh or if there's

2130
01:25:00,239 --> 01:25:04,320
anything that you would like um that you

2131
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:06,000
think I've

2132
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:08,960
written down uh differently than what

2133
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:10,560
you had thought or you had said. So, let

2134
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:12,000
me know. We can make any adjustments to

2135
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:13,679
it. But this is what we currently have

2136
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:15,199
drafted.

2137
01:25:13,679 --> 01:25:16,880
That the motion before the commission be

2138
01:25:15,199 --> 01:25:19,280
amended to make the following changes to

2139
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:21,280
schedules A and B. Schedule A,

2140
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:24,560
housekeeping adjustments. Staff wages

2141
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:28,000
and expenses decreased to $230,000.

2142
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:30,719
Beach security increased to $15,000.

2143
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:32,000
Schedule B, increase canal/ Lagoon City

2144
01:25:30,719 --> 01:25:33,920
Condition and maintenance study by

2145
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:36,560
$10,000 to include analysis of

2146
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:40,080
technology for water mover pumps.

2147
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:43,600
Schedule Accreased legal fees $20,000.

2148
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:45,520
Schedule A number 41 LCBW harvester

2149
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:48,639
increase to $15,000

2150
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:50,400
and schedule B addition of $120,000 for

2151
01:25:48,639 --> 01:25:53,120
new capital project for replacement of

2152
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:54,560
water mover pumps.

2153
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:58,719
» What about what we're putting to

2154
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:59,040
reserves? Do we do we need that there?

2155
01:25:58,719 --> 01:26:00,639
No.

2156
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:02,719
» Uh through the chair, my understanding

2157
01:26:00,639 --> 01:26:04,080
and if general manager PI or Miss

2158
01:26:02,719 --> 01:26:05,520
Fischer have anything to add, please

2159
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:07,360
feel free. But my understanding is that

2160
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:09,360
that would be determined based on the

2161
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:11,040
budget. So it's not doesn't have to be a

2162
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:12,800
direction of the commission because it

2163
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:14,480
would be resulting from your overall

2164
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:16,080
direction for the budget.

2165
01:26:14,480 --> 01:26:17,840
» But if there's any substantial change,

2166
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:19,679
we'll be fully aware of it then. Okay.

2167
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:23,120
Yeah, we need to know that for sure.

2168
01:26:19,679 --> 01:26:25,120
Yeah. All right. Perfect.

2169
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:27,600
Any discussion? So

2170
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:29,600
» Now I guess

2171
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:32,159
who I heard somebody talk.

2172
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:34,480
» Uh yes, sorry through you, Mr. Chair. Um

2173
01:26:32,159 --> 01:26:36,639
I apologize, Miss Clerk. Uh was the

2174
01:26:34,480 --> 01:26:38,239
adjustment for the legal expenses on

2175
01:26:36,639 --> 01:26:40,400
there as well?

2176
01:26:38,239 --> 01:26:42,000
the 18,000

2177
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:44,560
» Through the chair. I do have Yes.

2178
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:48,719
increase the legal fees line to $20,000

2179
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:50,639
total. So the $2,000 plus the 18. Yes.

2180
01:26:48,719 --> 01:26:53,120
» So I guess my question now and this is

2181
01:26:50,639 --> 01:26:54,800
probably to you guys like if there's an

2182
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:57,120
election coming and you can't do your

2183
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:58,960
budget till after the election. Why are

2184
01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:01,360
we zipping in because this is not going

2185
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:03,199
to be okay after the election. Correct.

2186
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:04,639
» Well, it's

2187
01:27:03,199 --> 01:27:06,000
kind of kind of going to do the same at

2188
01:27:04,639 --> 01:27:08,639
the county too. to try and get a

2189
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:10,639
preliminary budget to put it forward for

2190
01:27:08,639 --> 01:27:12,719
the new mayor to come in to look at,

2191
01:27:10,639 --> 01:27:14,639
right? Because it's it's the mayor that

2192
01:27:12,719 --> 01:27:16,480
does the budgets now. So, at least

2193
01:27:14,639 --> 01:27:18,320
you've presented it. Here it is. This is

2194
01:27:16,480 --> 01:27:20,080
what we'd want. There's something there

2195
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:21,600
for staff to organize the whole thing

2196
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,560
and then it's presented to the mayor at

2197
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:24,159
that time. Right.

2198
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:25,120
» So, we have a doover right up till

2199
01:27:24,159 --> 01:27:26,800
October then.

2200
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:27,520
» Yeah. Yeah. We could keep amending it.

2201
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,600
Yeah.

2202
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:31,520
» Oh, sorry, Laura.

2203
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:33,920
» Uh through you. Yes. I don't know that

2204
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:36,400
finance appreciates us. keep amending it

2205
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:38,400
as we're going. But it is gonna it is a

2206
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:41,280
living document. A budget is our our

2207
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:43,360
forecast and our best plan. Um the idea

2208
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:45,600
that we're working on it now is so that

2209
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:49,280
it is still ready on the normal time

2210
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:53,120
frame that we would have uh in a non

2211
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:56,880
election year so that whenever the new

2212
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:58,800
um mayor is elected uh and we have this

2213
01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:01,840
information available and ready to go as

2214
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:05,040
soon as possible. We don't want to delay

2215
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:07,280
the approval of the budget um further

2216
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:09,360
into the year as possible because that

2217
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:11,280
means projects are delayed uh

2218
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:13,600
procurement is delayed and it can limit

2219
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:15,600
what we can purchase operationally. So

2220
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:17,679
we want to have this uh all buttoned up

2221
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:20,159
and ready and again it's a typical

2222
01:28:17,679 --> 01:28:22,639
schedule for us to keep in a

2223
01:28:20,159 --> 01:28:24,880
non-election year as well.

2224
01:28:22,639 --> 01:28:27,440
» So then we if we have any issues with

2225
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:29,840
our budget then we have a last chance to

2226
01:28:27,440 --> 01:28:32,080
take a look at it. Um, I believe now

2227
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:34,480
that we're changing our meeting till a

2228
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:36,880
October 6th or 7th or something. All

2229
01:28:34,480 --> 01:28:38,080
right. So, I I'm going to probably ask

2230
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:39,679
to take one more look at the budget

2231
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:41,360
then.

2232
01:28:39,679 --> 01:28:44,239
» Yeah. We'll see it coming on, right?

2233
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:47,040
Yeah. Okay. All right.

2234
01:28:44,239 --> 01:28:48,400
Well, it makes I don't feel so like to

2235
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:49,840
me I gota like normally I like to go

2236
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:51,199
home and think about this because this

2237
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:53,600
has been kind of rushed. I didn't see

2238
01:28:51,199 --> 01:28:55,840
this till Tuesday. So I was up late last

2239
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:58,080
night and uh when I hit that report from

2240
01:28:55,840 --> 01:29:01,360
the uh the engineers that that was it

2241
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:04,000
for me 11 o'clock my brain was fried. So

2242
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:05,920
anyways if we could if I would suggest

2243
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:08,000
get the updated version even for the

2244
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:09,600
next meeting so that it's just there you

2245
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:12,880
know as information because we do make

2246
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:15,600
some changes here.

2247
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:16,960
» Okay. So with that all in favor

2248
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:18,400
» Uh through the chair. So, I'll just need

2249
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:20,000
a mover and a seconder for that

2250
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:21,840
amendment. If you were okay with those

2251
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:23,679
lists of adjustments, the schedules A

2252
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:26,080
and B, and then we would have a final

2253
01:29:23,679 --> 01:29:27,280
vote on the motion as amended. So, if

2254
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:28,880
you're okay with that list, we can put

2255
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:30,480
it on the screen again. I'll just need a

2256
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:31,840
mover and a seconder for this as an

2257
01:29:30,480 --> 01:29:33,840
amendment.

2258
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:35,199
» So, I need a mover and a second or do I

2259
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:36,480
not just talk to the mover and a

2260
01:29:35,199 --> 01:29:36,880
seconder and see if they're okay with

2261
01:29:36,480 --> 01:29:38,560
this?

2262
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:40,480
» Uh, no. Through the chair, we have an

2263
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:42,159
original mover and a seconder for the

2264
01:29:40,480 --> 01:29:44,000
original motion, but this is an

2265
01:29:42,159 --> 01:29:45,760
amendment to the original motion. So, we

2266
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,880
need another mover and a seconder for

2267
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:48,719
the amendment.

2268
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:50,719
» Okay.

2269
01:29:48,719 --> 01:29:52,320
So, somebody to put that uh you want to

2270
01:29:50,719 --> 01:29:54,639
read it again or no, we already saw it

2271
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:56,800
or

2272
01:29:54,639 --> 01:29:59,120
» Okay, we no need to put on the floor. Um

2273
01:29:56,800 --> 01:30:01,520
somebody put on the floor for me. Um

2274
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:04,679
deputy mayor, second by the mayor. All

2275
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:04,679
in favor?

2276
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:09,280
» Now, we'll go back to the other one. Um

2277
01:30:07,199 --> 01:30:10,719
I've already got a mover and a seconder

2278
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:12,800
» To the chair. That's correct. So, this

2279
01:30:10,719 --> 01:30:14,719
would just be a vote to adopt the

2280
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:17,360
original motion as amended.

2281
01:30:14,719 --> 01:30:20,400
» Okay. And that's okay for whoever put on

2282
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:23,560
I guess whoever did it. All in favor?

2283
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:23,560
That's pass.

2284
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:34,520
Okay. 8.1 Rebecca

2285
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:38,239
uh through the chair. So this is another

2286
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:39,840
one where we would be looking for

2287
01:30:38,239 --> 01:30:42,880
direction from the commission and this

2288
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:45,120
is regarding the October uh 2026 meeting

2289
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:46,480
date. So currently we just have that the

2290
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:49,600
commission provide direction on the

2291
01:30:46,480 --> 01:30:51,360
scheduled meeting date for October 2026.

2292
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:54,000
Um we did originally have this scheduled

2293
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:55,440
for October 8th and we are going to be

2294
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:58,159
commentering the council chambers on

2295
01:30:55,440 --> 01:30:59,679
that day for the voting period. Uh so

2296
01:30:58,159 --> 01:31:00,639
this was just seeking the commission's

2297
01:30:59,679 --> 01:31:02,480
direction on how you would like to

2298
01:31:00,639 --> 01:31:05,360
proceed with the October meeting. If you

2299
01:31:02,480 --> 01:31:06,880
would like to meet uh earlier uh or if

2300
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:09,679
you have another direction, please let

2301
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:15,440
us know and we can make that happen.

2302
01:31:09,679 --> 01:31:17,199
» I'll put on the floor. Um deputy mayor

2303
01:31:15,440 --> 01:31:20,000
second by uh

2304
01:31:17,199 --> 01:31:22,320
» We're county on the six both of us.

2305
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:25,520
Second by Mark. Uh I'm sorry,

2306
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:28,080
Commissioner L.

2307
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:29,920
» It can't be first thing basis. I like

2308
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:31,280
the six actually. You want to make it

2309
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:33,440
look cal.

2310
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:35,120
» Yeah, except both uh the deputy mayor

2311
01:31:33,440 --> 01:31:38,560
and I are at county.

2312
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:42,280
» Well, one of you can skip. [laughter]

2313
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:42,280
» Well, I know I can't.

2314
01:31:50,639 --> 01:31:57,360
Okay. I think we got to do it before.

2315
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:59,840
Do you have dates for us to look at, um,

2316
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:03,639
Rebecca? Because I know we got to, um,

2317
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:03,639
get this room right.

2318
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:10,320
» Uh, we do have a calendar. uh or if the

2319
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:11,840
commission prefers we could if you give

2320
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:13,600
us direction during this meeting send

2321
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:15,520
out kind of a calendar poll following

2322
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:17,360
the meeting and see if there's a

2323
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:19,280
compatible date for all. If you prefer

2324
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:21,920
to check your calendars now we can do so

2325
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:24,000
as well. We have a calendar for this

2326
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:25,520
room the council chambers. Uh it's

2327
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:28,239
available

2328
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:32,920
uh various dates before October 7th. It

2329
01:32:28,239 --> 01:32:32,920
won't be available post October 7th

2330
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:39,600
» The 29th.

2331
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:41,760
Well, I could come. Yeah, if it's a

2332
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:45,120
short meeting, that'll be

2333
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:46,719
» What about the first?

2334
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:47,840
» I can't attend the first time out of the

2335
01:32:46,719 --> 01:32:50,000
country.

2336
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:53,840
» That's a happy face. I don't want the

2337
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:56,080
first, but I'm available the second,

2338
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:59,520
» But yeah, we can do the 29th.

2339
01:32:56,080 --> 01:33:03,040
» What's What do you like?

2340
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:04,719
» 9th. The 29th. What about you? Actually,

2341
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:06,239
everybody's nodding on the 29th. What

2342
01:33:04,719 --> 01:33:07,600
about you're good with that

2343
01:33:06,239 --> 01:33:08,400
» Through the chair? Yes, we can make that

2344
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:09,360
work.

2345
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:10,400
» I can sorry

2346
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:12,639
» Through the chair. Yes, we can make

2347
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:15,639
September 29th work.

2348
01:33:12,639 --> 01:33:15,639
» Um,

2349
01:33:16,239 --> 01:33:20,639
» So they're looking direction. So, our

2350
01:33:18,159 --> 01:33:24,280
direction will be to um meet on the

2351
01:33:20,639 --> 01:33:24,280
right at 9:30.

2352
01:33:29,679 --> 01:33:36,280
No, that's

2353
01:33:32,239 --> 01:33:36,280
right after the election. I'm gone.

2354
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:44,440
Okay. Um, we'll let um Rebecca put that

2355
01:33:41,440 --> 01:33:44,440
up.

2356
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:05,520
through the chair. So, the motion um

2357
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:07,920
before the commission is that the

2358
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:11,040
October 20 26 commission meeting be

2359
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:13,280
moved to September 29th, 2026 at 9:30

2360
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:15,520
a.m.

2361
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:18,000
» Um the the people that put that on the

2362
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:20,480
floor, you're okay with that? Okay. All

2363
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:25,040
in favor?

2364
01:34:20,480 --> 01:34:27,199
That's all. Yeah, we did. Didn't Yeah.

2365
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:29,679
I try to that first. I don't forget from

2366
01:34:27,199 --> 01:34:34,239
now on. That's why I always do it first.

2367
01:34:29,679 --> 01:34:36,880
Okay. So 8 um two the we've already done

2368
01:34:34,239 --> 01:34:40,719
that so we're going to skip to 8.3.

2369
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:42,800
Um 8.3 would be our next one. Rebecca

2370
01:34:40,719 --> 01:34:45,199
» Uh through the chair. The motion for 8.3

2371
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:47,040
is that report LC526

2372
01:34:45,199 --> 01:34:51,080
regarding operations update for canal

2373
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:51,080
maintenance be received as information.

2374
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:57,639
So on the floor, deputy mayor, second by

2375
01:34:54,480 --> 01:34:57,639
the mayor.

2376
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:22,480
Anybody want to start there?

2377
01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:24,560
» Yeah, I see that. So, the review is

2378
01:35:22,480 --> 01:35:27,679
valid. So, we're good now for 26 right

2379
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:29,760
to 28 operating season. Is it just a is

2380
01:35:27,679 --> 01:35:31,679
it an easier application to renew that

2381
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:33,280
now, Laura, moving forward, or would it

2382
01:35:31,679 --> 01:35:36,639
be the same process? We start all over

2383
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:38,159
again for another three-year period.

2384
01:35:36,639 --> 01:35:40,880
» Uh through you, Mr. Chair, my

2385
01:35:38,159 --> 01:35:44,000
understanding is we would we would need

2386
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:45,920
to continue Sorry, it would be similar

2387
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:48,719
to what we did this year. So, we would

2388
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:51,120
start um that discussion with the

2389
01:35:48,719 --> 01:35:56,400
Department of Fisheries and Oceans uh

2390
01:35:51,120 --> 01:36:00,080
ahead of the 2029 season um in order to

2391
01:35:56,400 --> 01:36:01,679
get the uh approvals and the review

2392
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:01,840
completed ahead of that.

2393
01:36:01,679 --> 01:36:03,360
» Okay.

2394
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:04,639
» And we weren't too late getting that

2395
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:06,080
approval, but probably started earlier

2396
01:36:04,639 --> 01:36:08,000
in the year just to put people's minds

2397
01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:09,520
at ease that it won't delay that start

2398
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:11,600
again. Okay. Thanks, Laura.

2399
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:14,159
» For sure.

2400
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:15,920
Um I what's the discussion over the

2401
01:36:14,159 --> 01:36:18,000
skimming? Like they're not saying yes,

2402
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:20,080
they're not saying no.

2403
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:22,159
» Uh three, Mr. Chair. So they've said

2404
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:25,840
skimming should not occur prior to July

2405
01:36:22,159 --> 01:36:27,600
15th window. Um so we are hoping to

2406
01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:31,360
discuss with them as we move forward

2407
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:34,400
ahead of the operating season of 2027

2408
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:36,320
uh to see if we would be able to do any

2409
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:39,120
mitigation or any type of skimming

2410
01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:42,880
activities prior to that. Uh but as it

2411
01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:45,679
stands right now um for 2027 skimming

2412
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:48,880
and harvesting would both initiate at uh

2413
01:36:45,679 --> 01:36:52,560
July 15th. Um and not none of the

2414
01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:54,320
inwater work would begin prior to that.

2415
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:55,600
» What about turning on the water systems?

2416
01:36:54,320 --> 01:37:00,400
They don't have an issue with that at

2417
01:36:55,600 --> 01:37:02,960
all. The the all our systems the

2418
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:04,560
» Part of our discussion with them.

2419
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:06,639
» That's part of the discussion. So you

2420
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:08,800
still have all that to discuss that

2421
01:37:06,639 --> 01:37:11,800
before.

2422
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:11,800
Um,

2423
01:37:18,239 --> 01:37:22,639
so they are open to discussion is what

2424
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:24,480
you're saying because um the the thing

2425
01:37:22,639 --> 01:37:27,920
I've noticed this year is a lack of fish

2426
01:37:24,480 --> 01:37:30,320
and minnows and we've we've stopped all

2427
01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:32,000
these things and I got to tell you like

2428
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:33,760
normally I got minnows swimming across

2429
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:35,840
the front of my place all the time and I

2430
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:36,800
don't see any minnows. I'm as normally

2431
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:38,639
when you're in the lake, they're

2432
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:40,800
nibbling away on your feet. I don't see

2433
01:37:38,639 --> 01:37:43,440
them anymore and I'm I'm not sure what's

2434
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:47,040
happened to them. Uh I I see a bunch of

2435
01:37:43,440 --> 01:37:48,480
turtles actually, but then I don't see

2436
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:50,639
but I'm just kind of curious. Was there

2437
01:37:48,480 --> 01:37:52,880
any discussion about that? Like with the

2438
01:37:50,639 --> 01:37:54,719
lack of fish, do they are they noticing

2439
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:56,239
it or

2440
01:37:54,719 --> 01:37:58,400
» You Mr. Chair, that's not part of the

2441
01:37:56,239 --> 01:37:59,920
discussions with them. They're reviewing

2442
01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:01,840
when when we put forward our

2443
01:37:59,920 --> 01:38:04,480
application. We're saying this is the

2444
01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:08,080
work that we're doing. this is the um

2445
01:38:04,480 --> 01:38:10,159
status that we are observing um and then

2446
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:11,679
they review that and determine where we

2447
01:38:10,159 --> 01:38:13,440
go forward from it. So they're not

2448
01:38:11,679 --> 01:38:15,920
discussing current states or anything

2449
01:38:13,440 --> 01:38:17,760
like that. This is the hope also though

2450
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:19,920
that the study that we've proposed and

2451
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:21,520
it's part of the budget for next year is

2452
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:24,880
that they're going to do some of these

2453
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:26,960
species counts and identify what is in

2454
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:30,800
the canals and in the lagoons are likely

2455
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:33,840
to be um so that we can show a positive

2456
01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:35,920
or negative impact um of of the

2457
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:38,239
operations or of the conditions that are

2458
01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:40,000
outside of our operations just changes

2459
01:38:38,239 --> 01:38:42,320
in general because again it's a living

2460
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:44,800
ecosystem. So those are obviously going

2461
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:46,960
to change uh many different factors

2462
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:49,119
influence that. So that's the idea is

2463
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:52,000
that we would be able to provide them

2464
01:38:49,119 --> 01:38:55,360
with a lot more evidence-based

2465
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:58,159
information to help potentially guide uh

2466
01:38:55,360 --> 01:39:01,520
what we'd be allowed to do or not to do.

2467
01:38:58,159 --> 01:39:04,639
Um and to your comment about are they

2468
01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:06,719
open for discussions? We we they have

2469
01:39:04,639 --> 01:39:09,440
said yes that we can discuss with them

2470
01:39:06,719 --> 01:39:11,760
whether it's going to change the outcome

2471
01:39:09,440 --> 01:39:14,560
or not. that's where I wouldn't be able

2472
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:16,239
to speak for another agency. So,

2473
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:17,679
» And the people that are discussing it

2474
01:39:16,239 --> 01:39:19,280
with them is yourself that's who's

2475
01:39:17,679 --> 01:39:22,080
discussing it or do you need assistance

2476
01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:24,159
from um say experts in different fields

2477
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:25,600
that would help us?

2478
01:39:24,159 --> 01:39:27,440
» So, through you Mr. Chair, we're

2479
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:30,080
starting with ourselves to determine

2480
01:39:27,440 --> 01:39:32,000
what they would want to see from us. um

2481
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:34,000
what information would be required, what

2482
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:36,080
potential mitigations could we put in

2483
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:38,400
place and then we would go from there

2484
01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:41,199
and we would advise the commission if

2485
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:42,400
external resources are required but at

2486
01:39:41,199 --> 01:39:43,840
this point we don't we haven't

2487
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:45,679
identified that be

2488
01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:47,360
» Because I guess the argument can go is

2489
01:39:45,679 --> 01:39:48,880
the fact that we are not dealing with

2490
01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:50,000
anything native in our lagoons

2491
01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:52,000
everything we're dealing with is

2492
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:54,000
invasive and there's nothing native in

2493
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:56,400
there at all and that's where I

2494
01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:59,679
sometimes think they don't look at what

2495
01:39:56,400 --> 01:40:01,520
we're doing as an advantage like just

2496
01:39:59,679 --> 01:40:03,040
putting the oxygen in the water. It's

2497
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:04,880
got to be great for the fish, right?

2498
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:06,960
That's you think for the habitat and

2499
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:09,199
everything that went on and that sort of

2500
01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:10,960
thing. And when the soldier weave gets

2501
01:40:09,199 --> 01:40:12,639
there, the fish won't be swimming in

2502
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:14,480
there till we cut out that stuff and get

2503
01:40:12,639 --> 01:40:16,800
it out to allow them to get in there.

2504
01:40:14,480 --> 01:40:18,960
So, it's just I and I guess I see all

2505
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:20,560
that then I hear about the uh global

2506
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:22,719
warming. Like, should that not be

2507
01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:24,560
changing the fish when they have their

2508
01:40:22,719 --> 01:40:26,960
their babies? There's so many things

2509
01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:28,639
going on here. I hope that our our

2510
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:30,400
agencies out there are paying attention

2511
01:40:28,639 --> 01:40:32,159
to this and they can work with us on

2512
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:35,520
this and maybe we can help them with

2513
01:40:32,159 --> 01:40:37,280
what we're doing. So that's my little

2514
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:39,600
speech.

2515
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:41,440
But anyways, but good report, Laura. I

2516
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:42,880
really liked it and I saw your question

2517
01:40:41,440 --> 01:40:45,199
and answers there. I read all that.

2518
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:47,360
Yeah.

2519
01:40:45,199 --> 01:40:50,760
» Um does anybody else have any questions

2520
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:50,760
for Laura?

2521
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:56,119
Um I guess all in favor.

2522
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:04,400
» Okay. Now this is the unfinished new

2523
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:07,600
business.

2524
01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:10,639
Um let's scroll first on that.

2525
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:13,280
» I think Commissioner Hart's on 9.1

2526
01:41:10,639 --> 01:41:15,600
with the South Bridge lighting. We

2527
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:18,639
» Oh, sorry. Okay. I'm sorry. I Okay. I'm

2528
01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:21,840
sorry. Um Yeah. I'm sorry. My apologies.

2529
01:41:18,639 --> 01:41:23,520
Okay. Just so I can

2530
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:25,280
It's on the other sheet. It's the one I

2531
01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:28,960
printed didn't have that. Sorry. Sorry

2532
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:30,639
there, Commissioner. Um 9.1.

2533
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:32,480
Um I don't think I have to put this on

2534
01:41:30,639 --> 01:41:34,719
the floor, do I? Or should I?

2535
01:41:32,480 --> 01:41:36,639
» Uh to the chair. There isn't a motion

2536
01:41:34,719 --> 01:41:38,560
associated with it right now. If there

2537
01:41:36,639 --> 01:41:40,800
is any action to come out of it, we can

2538
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:43,280
consider that as a motion if needed.

2539
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:45,679
» Okay.

2540
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:49,760
Yeah. Uh chairman uh with regards to the

2541
01:41:45,679 --> 01:41:51,920
uh south uh foot bridge lighting u that

2542
01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:55,600
that's been an issue for the resident of

2543
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:58,320
16 South Island Trail for some time and

2544
01:41:55,600 --> 01:42:00,719
uh as a result they uh that that

2545
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:06,159
resident has submitted a report of

2546
01:42:00,719 --> 01:42:08,560
concern on uh July 22nd and uh there has

2547
01:42:06,159 --> 01:42:11,840
been some action taken from the township

2548
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:16,320
so far. Uh but in the meantime, uh that

2549
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:18,400
that light is is works is on and off. Uh

2550
01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:21,199
there there's been times where it's is

2551
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:23,600
not on at all. There's times where uh

2552
01:42:21,199 --> 01:42:26,880
there's been uh some lighting between 2

2553
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:30,480
am and 3:30 a.m. and then other times.

2554
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:34,560
So it it needs to be reviewed and when

2555
01:42:30,480 --> 01:42:36,960
it is working it is it is it is bright

2556
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:41,600
and it's to the point where it could

2557
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:44,320
also be considered u a violation on

2558
01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:46,719
bylaw in terms of

2559
01:42:44,320 --> 01:42:50,560
nuisance. the the light the light has to

2560
01:42:46,719 --> 01:42:52,960
be examined and I see uh as a result of

2561
01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:57,440
uh uh report of concern followup two

2562
01:42:52,960 --> 01:43:00,159
days ago that uh the uh the township is

2563
01:42:57,440 --> 01:43:02,880
is looking into review of this light. So

2564
01:43:00,159 --> 01:43:04,960
I just want to get on on record chairman

2565
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:07,040
that that we're we're looking at this

2566
01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:11,840
and the township has taken some action

2567
01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:13,840
to uh get get this uh resolved.

2568
01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:16,719
So do you want to put a motion forward

2569
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:19,280
that we request something here?

2570
01:43:16,719 --> 01:43:23,119
» Well, this is where I I need direction

2571
01:43:19,280 --> 01:43:26,080
by the by this by the commission is the

2572
01:43:23,119 --> 01:43:28,719
the report of concern has been res has

2573
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:31,280
been respon the resident had has had a

2574
01:43:28,719 --> 01:43:34,800
response from their their inquiry to

2575
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:36,639
report a concern and um the township has

2576
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:38,639
received the request regarding the south

2577
01:43:36,639 --> 01:43:40,480
footbridge light which has been

2578
01:43:38,639 --> 01:43:43,040
forwarded to the appropriate staff for

2579
01:43:40,480 --> 01:43:43,040
review.

2580
01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:48,320
That's what's taken place so far. I just

2581
01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:50,400
want to be ensured by the commission uh

2582
01:43:48,320 --> 01:43:53,280
that that uh this this will be followed

2583
01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:55,360
up on and and and and it appears it is

2584
01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:58,880
» Also the town's following up on because

2585
01:43:55,360 --> 01:44:01,520
there's a lot of um u back like I know

2586
01:43:58,880 --> 01:44:03,360
this was the same thing happened a

2587
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:05,360
couple years ago and there was a full

2588
01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:07,440
report done on it. there was pricing

2589
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:09,600
done uh all different types of lights

2590
01:44:07,440 --> 01:44:11,679
and everything and uh I think you were

2591
01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:13,840
here even in the mayor you guys were

2592
01:44:11,679 --> 01:44:15,280
both there when we talked about that. So

2593
01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:16,560
maybe you should pull that information

2594
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:18,800
out because it could save you a lot of

2595
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:20,560
time, right? Like that report and bring

2596
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:22,080
it all out, take a look and bring it

2597
01:44:20,560 --> 01:44:25,600
back maybe to the commission. Take

2598
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:27,040
another look at um I know when um

2599
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:28,639
Commissioner Hart told me about I went

2600
01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:30,239
over there, I could never find the

2601
01:44:28,639 --> 01:44:32,000
lights on and that's just a couple doors

2602
01:44:30,239 --> 01:44:34,000
from I was down there and the lights

2603
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:36,639
were never on. So I I have you ever seen

2604
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:39,119
the lights on, Commissioner? Uh yes,

2605
01:44:36,639 --> 01:44:41,520
chairman. I've been there uh when I've

2606
01:44:39,119 --> 01:44:44,000
seen the lights on and it it is

2607
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:48,800
definitely a nuisance for the resident

2608
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:50,719
of 16 South Southern uh trail and um I I

2609
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:53,280
think if this gets reviewed, let let's

2610
01:44:50,719 --> 01:44:54,639
take a take a look at it. It's action

2611
01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:56,239
has to be taken on terms of the

2612
01:44:54,639 --> 01:44:57,440
intensity of the light, but it's got to

2613
01:44:56,239 --> 01:44:58,800
be consistent.

2614
01:44:57,440 --> 01:45:00,639
» I just don't understand why the light's

2615
01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:02,480
not going on and off. That that's there

2616
01:45:00,639 --> 01:45:05,199
that's a problem that's got to be out.

2617
01:45:02,480 --> 01:45:07,199
» Yeah.

2618
01:45:05,199 --> 01:45:08,560
» Okay. So, um, it's being looked after.

2619
01:45:07,199 --> 01:45:10,000
So, I don't have the motion on the floor

2620
01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:10,880
right now. You want to bring it up the

2621
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:12,960
next meeting?

2622
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:14,639
» We'll we'll follow up on this on on the

2623
01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:15,280
next meeting. If we can we can end it at

2624
01:45:14,639 --> 01:45:16,880
that. Yeah,

2625
01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:19,040
» I'd be happy with that. Thank you. Thank

2626
01:45:16,880 --> 01:45:20,560
you, chairman.

2627
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:21,920
» The next one you got is nine. I'm going

2628
01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:23,840
to leave you right on the hot seat now.

2629
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:25,440
Uh, 9.2. That's your thought.

2630
01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:29,040
» So, the other one [snorts] is is

2631
01:45:25,440 --> 01:45:32,000
regarding uh beach security. it it's

2632
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:35,280
come to my attention and and others that

2633
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:40,719
that lack of security on certain dates

2634
01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:45,600
and um I had the uh the benefit of of of

2635
01:45:40,719 --> 01:45:49,360
talking to the uh the manager of of

2636
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:51,760
uh Brian Brainer and uh Brian uh reached

2637
01:45:49,360 --> 01:45:54,719
out to me and offered an opportunity for

2638
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:58,080
me to meet with him and uh a

2639
01:45:54,719 --> 01:46:01,679
representative of 247 Guard. Uh we did

2640
01:45:58,080 --> 01:46:03,920
this last Friday and uh uh I was happy

2641
01:46:01,679 --> 01:46:05,840
to uh have an opportunity to meet with

2642
01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:08,159
Brian. Brian's already identified the

2643
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:11,600
problem and has already created a

2644
01:46:08,159 --> 01:46:12,800
solution and uh I'm satisfied as as a

2645
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:15,040
member of the commission that that

2646
01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:17,119
they're moving forward on this. So when

2647
01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:19,760
we did meet with the guard uh we were

2648
01:46:17,119 --> 01:46:22,560
assured that he would be working as per

2649
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:24,400
the contract and it's and it's also my

2650
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:27,199
understanding that we're not going to be

2651
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:31,360
charged for those days. August 1 weekend

2652
01:46:27,199 --> 01:46:33,040
for example where uh they uh July first

2653
01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:34,719
weekend they they didn't show up. So

2654
01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:36,719
there are a few days that they they

2655
01:46:34,719 --> 01:46:40,880
didn't show up and that that's been

2656
01:46:36,719 --> 01:46:44,480
that's been corrected. Um and as a

2657
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:47,920
followup uh I I know that he was working

2658
01:46:44,480 --> 01:46:50,159
on the Saturday and uh and one family

2659
01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:52,320
was approached where was the wristband

2660
01:46:50,159 --> 01:46:54,320
and the wristband was in place and they

2661
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:56,639
gave it up and they they allowed the the

2662
01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:59,199
rest of the family to participate. So

2663
01:46:56,639 --> 01:47:02,719
sec beach security is important. it it's

2664
01:46:59,199 --> 01:47:05,440
got to be uh used in proper patrols. And

2665
01:47:02,719 --> 01:47:07,600
uh when I met with with with Brian and

2666
01:47:05,440 --> 01:47:10,080
the security guard, it was Brian's

2667
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:12,239
clearly uh pointed out the the

2668
01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:15,679
responsibilities and expectations that

2669
01:47:12,239 --> 01:47:17,199
uh that that uh we expect and and I'm

2670
01:47:15,679 --> 01:47:19,679
I'm happy to report that they're they're

2671
01:47:17,199 --> 01:47:23,280
being met at this point. There was some

2672
01:47:19,679 --> 01:47:26,400
discussion though of of having uh two

2673
01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:29,280
security guards and uh I guess that's

2674
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:32,159
for discussion some other time but uh as

2675
01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:33,760
long as we uh you know have one security

2676
01:47:32,159 --> 01:47:37,280
guard meeting the contractual

2677
01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:40,400
obligations and uh I I think as a

2678
01:47:37,280 --> 01:47:42,080
commission we're satisfied with that.

2679
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:44,960
Um, the one thing I would tell you,

2680
01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:47,679
you'd mentioned to me about the two. Um,

2681
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:50,400
I I thought that we had two and we'd

2682
01:47:47,679 --> 01:47:52,239
always went out like for two. So, I

2683
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:53,520
phoned another commissioner who was like

2684
01:47:52,239 --> 01:47:55,360
involved in all. He said, "Absolutely.

2685
01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:56,320
There's always two." He says, "This

2686
01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:58,159
time's only one."

2687
01:47:56,320 --> 01:47:59,440
» Well, chairman, if you look back at at

2688
01:47:58,159 --> 01:48:02,480
the budget two years ago, it was

2689
01:47:59,440 --> 01:48:04,960
$25,000. Now, it was $10,000. So, that's

2690
01:48:02,480 --> 01:48:07,840
why I raised it uh uh earlier during

2691
01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:09,840
this meeting. And uh that's something

2692
01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:12,400
that's open for discussion. Even if we

2693
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:14,639
had just but the one if we had one

2694
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:18,400
security officer back and forth with

2695
01:48:14,639 --> 01:48:20,960
each beach and uh uh and and and during

2696
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:25,199
the next contract agreement we we just

2697
01:48:20,960 --> 01:48:29,600
don't go for the the the the cheapest uh

2698
01:48:25,199 --> 01:48:32,239
u sec security uh company available. So

2699
01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:34,480
u but I I I'm really impressed with what

2700
01:48:32,239 --> 01:48:36,320
Brian's done so far. obviously

2701
01:48:34,480 --> 01:48:39,040
identified the problem, got ahead of it,

2702
01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:42,000
and so far it's meeting a contractual

2703
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:43,199
obligation.

2704
01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:44,639
» Did you want to say something, Laura? I

2705
01:48:43,199 --> 01:48:46,000
saw it pop out. You just turn to your

2706
01:48:44,639 --> 01:48:47,760
mind.

2707
01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:49,199
» Uh through you, Mr. Chair. Yeah, I just

2708
01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:51,119
wanted to remind the commission that we

2709
01:48:49,199 --> 01:48:53,679
are bound by our procurement policy and

2710
01:48:51,119 --> 01:48:56,000
we do need to follow that um with all

2711
01:48:53,679 --> 01:48:58,960
purchases including beach security. We

2712
01:48:56,000 --> 01:49:01,600
can look at um ensuring that there's

2713
01:48:58,960 --> 01:49:04,080
it's not just price that is part of the

2714
01:49:01,600 --> 01:49:05,760
consideration. Um, and I did want to

2715
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:09,119
remind you that we did increase that to

2716
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:12,239
15,000 for 2027 as part of those

2717
01:49:09,119 --> 01:49:13,119
previous discussions.

2718
01:49:12,239 --> 01:49:15,440
» Thank you.

2719
01:49:13,119 --> 01:49:17,600
» Well, on behalf of what um, Commissioner

2720
01:49:15,440 --> 01:49:21,280
Art was saying, the other issue is is

2721
01:49:17,600 --> 01:49:24,800
the the gate with all of that. And

2722
01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:26,400
» Yes, the so to follow up on on I think

2723
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:28,400
there's been some correction on that as

2724
01:49:26,400 --> 01:49:30,719
well. There's that the gate and the gate

2725
01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:33,040
we're referring to is what used to be

2726
01:49:30,719 --> 01:49:35,600
pier one and it's a gate that goes on on

2727
01:49:33,040 --> 01:49:37,600
the on the south beach but leads along

2728
01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:39,679
uh the canal path to the pumping

2729
01:49:37,600 --> 01:49:43,520
station. And it's my understanding

2730
01:49:39,679 --> 01:49:46,880
talking to uh uh my understanding that

2731
01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:48,159
uh the gate is is open because people

2732
01:49:46,880 --> 01:49:50,080
have to have access to the pumping

2733
01:49:48,159 --> 01:49:51,600
station and they're back and forth

2734
01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:52,800
throughout the day and and sometimes

2735
01:49:51,600 --> 01:49:55,119
it's a little difficult to keep it

2736
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:58,400
locked. Uh I've been down there.

2737
01:49:55,119 --> 01:50:02,560
personally seen cars drive in and and

2738
01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:04,880
park along the canal and and uh one last

2739
01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:07,440
two weeks ago on a Saturday there was an

2740
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:10,400
individual had his car parked and a lawn

2741
01:50:07,440 --> 01:50:13,040
chair out and and fishing uh and then

2742
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:15,360
two other vehicles came in and and and

2743
01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:17,040
uh decided to park there. This is before

2744
01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:18,880
the bylaw officer was able to get down

2745
01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:20,960
there and and clear it out which I I'm

2746
01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:23,840
grateful for that to happen. My concern

2747
01:50:20,960 --> 01:50:26,239
is if that gate is not maintained uh

2748
01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:28,719
kept kept locked and and people get in

2749
01:50:26,239 --> 01:50:31,199
there, it could obstruct the the access

2750
01:50:28,719 --> 01:50:33,520
for the uh fire and rescue people to get

2751
01:50:31,199 --> 01:50:35,600
to the boat if there is in need of an

2752
01:50:33,520 --> 01:50:37,840
emergency. And and that's that's

2753
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:40,000
important.

2754
01:50:37,840 --> 01:50:42,480
But I also been assured and I and I've

2755
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:46,199
witnessed uh bylaw officers doing their

2756
01:50:42,480 --> 01:50:46,199
their routine there.

2757
01:50:46,480 --> 01:50:51,119
So, so on that gate though, I I myself

2758
01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:53,760
notice it seems to be open more times

2759
01:50:51,119 --> 01:50:55,840
than it's closed when I go by. Um, but I

2760
01:50:53,760 --> 01:50:57,119
have watched the awkward once come. He

2761
01:50:55,840 --> 01:51:01,520
was parked the gate mocked all the way

2762
01:50:57,119 --> 01:51:03,280
up. He didn't bother unlock it. So, um,

2763
01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:04,639
and saying that is that that is

2764
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:06,639
something else I wanted to talk about

2765
01:51:04,639 --> 01:51:08,719
too is where our gate is and they've got

2766
01:51:06,639 --> 01:51:10,639
the pole that runs to the lagoon. We

2767
01:51:08,719 --> 01:51:12,080
never went that extra three feet. We

2768
01:51:10,639 --> 01:51:14,719
didn't think people would squeeze around

2769
01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:16,639
it. They all do it now. Um, I know the

2770
01:51:14,719 --> 01:51:18,719
hotel, they shut it all down. So,

2771
01:51:16,639 --> 01:51:20,560
something we have to look at is to shut

2772
01:51:18,719 --> 01:51:22,080
that down because that's the new way

2773
01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:23,840
because there's nobody at the hotel.

2774
01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:26,320
They're all parking in the hotel now.

2775
01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:27,840
It's a wall access coming around. Before

2776
01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:29,840
it was always safe there because the

2777
01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:31,440
hotel didn't allow everybody to park.

2778
01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:34,080
But when you take a look, you see all

2779
01:51:31,440 --> 01:51:35,520
the parked cars all the way along. And I

2780
01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:37,199
give the hotel credit because they throw

2781
01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:38,719
all their garbage in the bin. It's all

2782
01:51:37,199 --> 01:51:40,719
piled there. I go by the next day, it's

2783
01:51:38,719 --> 01:51:43,040
all cleaned up. So they're obviously

2784
01:51:40,719 --> 01:51:45,920
paying pay up all that because I we're

2785
01:51:43,040 --> 01:51:48,480
not that's not ours, right?

2786
01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:49,599
Okay. So I I don't know that's something

2787
01:51:48,480 --> 01:51:50,800
I'll probably bring up in the next

2788
01:51:49,599 --> 01:51:52,400
meeting. It's not something that has to

2789
01:51:50,800 --> 01:51:54,880
be rushed, but I do think we should

2790
01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:56,800
cover that.

2791
01:51:54,880 --> 01:51:58,960
» Yeah. Thank you. Uh thank you chair. And

2792
01:51:56,800 --> 01:52:00,480
one one other comment the last one is

2793
01:51:58,960 --> 01:52:04,320
the

2794
01:52:00,480 --> 01:52:05,599
we can move on to the other uh new

2795
01:52:04,320 --> 01:52:06,960
business goose. Is that

2796
01:52:05,599 --> 01:52:09,280
» Yeah. So the goose management. The

2797
01:52:06,960 --> 01:52:14,239
reason why I I I wanted that in there is

2798
01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:19,520
that I I' I've read and and received uh

2799
01:52:14,239 --> 01:52:23,360
message that the uh the the geese uh the

2800
01:52:19,520 --> 01:52:25,599
the goose the goose treatment is is all

2801
01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:27,840
over the place and it's a mess. And I I

2802
01:52:25,599 --> 01:52:32,159
I in my observation, I think the the

2803
01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:33,599
gate goose population is is is down. And

2804
01:52:32,159 --> 01:52:35,520
uh of course this time of the year is

2805
01:52:33,599 --> 01:52:38,400
not as a problem as it was a few months

2806
01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:40,159
ago, but I think the wildlife management

2807
01:52:38,400 --> 01:52:42,960
under the direction of Michael Van Cass

2808
01:52:40,159 --> 01:52:45,679
is doing an amazing job and uh I just

2809
01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:48,480
want to put it on that uh I think the

2810
01:52:45,679 --> 01:52:50,239
goose management system is working for

2811
01:52:48,480 --> 01:52:52,159
uh for what the township is providing

2812
01:52:50,239 --> 01:52:54,960
and that's why I have that on there.

2813
01:52:52,159 --> 01:52:57,119
Chairman, thank you.

2814
01:52:54,960 --> 01:52:59,920
Do you have anything else here? Huh? Or

2815
01:52:57,119 --> 01:53:02,480
that's it. Um, I got I got a couple

2816
01:52:59,920 --> 01:53:04,719
things here. Um, first thing I want to

2817
01:53:02,480 --> 01:53:07,040
talk about is this rafting party that's

2818
01:53:04,719 --> 01:53:08,800
happening down on the the beach the

2819
01:53:07,040 --> 01:53:12,080
beach there. Do you know anything about

2820
01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:14,880
it? Does anybody know this whole rafting

2821
01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:17,040
party that's happening in the marina?

2822
01:53:14,880 --> 01:53:19,599
No, nobody knows about it. Council,

2823
01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:21,520
there's no permits, no nothing,

2824
01:53:19,599 --> 01:53:23,199
right? Um, the only thing I'm saying is

2825
01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:24,639
I know there's a rafting thing there and

2826
01:53:23,199 --> 01:53:26,639
Parks Water was hadn't heard anything

2827
01:53:24,639 --> 01:53:28,239
about it and I'm what I'm more concerned

2828
01:53:26,639 --> 01:53:31,199
about and I'm not trying to stop this

2829
01:53:28,239 --> 01:53:32,480
and I think it's a great idea, but I we

2830
01:53:31,199 --> 01:53:35,119
don't know about it. If they're coming

2831
01:53:32,480 --> 01:53:36,960
onto our beaches, I I guess there might

2832
01:53:35,119 --> 01:53:38,719
be an issue and I'm hearing that there's

2833
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:42,480
going to be a beer tent or something

2834
01:53:38,719 --> 01:53:44,080
along the um the area like up near their

2835
01:53:42,480 --> 01:53:47,040
gas pumps. I don't know if that's all

2836
01:53:44,080 --> 01:53:48,719
true. I don't know. So I I I'm not

2837
01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:50,080
getting involved in all this, but I just

2838
01:53:48,719 --> 01:53:53,199
want to make sure parks and waterways,

2839
01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:56,159
if you guys were aware of what they do.

2840
01:53:53,199 --> 01:53:57,599
» Anyways, chairman, I I I'm not

2841
01:53:56,159 --> 01:54:00,320
completely sure, but I think they own

2842
01:53:57,599 --> 01:54:02,880
that property and uh that's their that's

2843
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:06,239
their discretion and uh I think what

2844
01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:09,440
what uh that business does is is is an

2845
01:54:06,239 --> 01:54:11,920
enhancement to our community. and uh why

2846
01:54:09,440 --> 01:54:15,440
would we want to prevent a an

2847
01:54:11,920 --> 01:54:20,080
opportunity for a business to do well in

2848
01:54:15,440 --> 01:54:23,599
our community and uh and just

2849
01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:25,760
quality of our our Lagoon city. I'm not

2850
01:54:23,599 --> 01:54:28,000
trying to shut it down and I respect the

2851
01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:29,920
fact that there's that's their property,

2852
01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:32,719
but if they're putting a tent there

2853
01:54:29,920 --> 01:54:34,239
where the beer is on the rightway, if

2854
01:54:32,719 --> 01:54:35,760
the fire department needs to get out of

2855
01:54:34,239 --> 01:54:37,920
there, there's a tent in the way of the

2856
01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:40,159
rightway and that's the only room that

2857
01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:41,920
they have there. And it's not my issue,

2858
01:54:40,159 --> 01:54:44,639
but I'm just saying when I hear things

2859
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:46,000
like that from my life living and all

2860
01:54:44,639 --> 01:54:47,760
the permits and all the things that have

2861
01:54:46,000 --> 01:54:49,840
to go on, these are the problems that

2862
01:54:47,760 --> 01:54:52,080
happen. Like I think it's a great idea.

2863
01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:54,159
Enjoy it all, right? But I'm just saying

2864
01:54:52,080 --> 01:54:55,920
that there are like people think you

2865
01:54:54,159 --> 01:54:58,000
could just do this stuff, right? And

2866
01:54:55,920 --> 01:54:59,679
there's ramifications like because that

2867
01:54:58,000 --> 01:55:01,360
you know the the driveway, right, that

2868
01:54:59,679 --> 01:55:02,639
we're talking about where else would the

2869
01:55:01,360 --> 01:55:04,639
tent go,

2870
01:55:02,639 --> 01:55:07,040
» Right? But it's not I and it's not my

2871
01:55:04,639 --> 01:55:08,800
problem. I now that I know that it's not

2872
01:55:07,040 --> 01:55:10,719
included on parks and waterways. It's

2873
01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:12,800
not my issue at all anymore. That's all

2874
01:55:10,719 --> 01:55:14,320
I wanted to make sure was that if the

2875
01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:15,280
washrooms are being used or whatever,

2876
01:55:14,320 --> 01:55:16,239
we're going to have to deal with all

2877
01:55:15,280 --> 01:55:18,400
that. We're gonna have to get them

2878
01:55:16,239 --> 01:55:20,000
cleaned earlier whenever. Well, let's

2879
01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:21,599
have to make sure the individuals know

2880
01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:23,679
that they would have to get a permit for

2881
01:55:21,599 --> 01:55:25,280
the tent. Any of those large tents for

2882
01:55:23,679 --> 01:55:26,480
functions, you do require a building

2883
01:55:25,280 --> 01:55:28,000
permit. So,

2884
01:55:26,480 --> 01:55:29,920
» But I'm not trying to stop this. I'm not

2885
01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:32,239
being the guy. All I'm trying to say is

2886
01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:34,400
that I'm covering off the people the

2887
01:55:32,239 --> 01:55:36,159
Lagoon City and what we stand for and

2888
01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:38,480
that's what our job is. The rest of that

2889
01:55:36,159 --> 01:55:40,880
is not our job. It's not my job to do

2890
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:41,840
that. And so, just so you know, I'm 100%

2891
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:44,320
behind it. Yeah.

2892
01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:46,239
» Yeah. I'm not against it all, but I've

2893
01:55:44,320 --> 01:55:48,080
just seen it when other people have

2894
01:55:46,239 --> 01:55:50,560
tried to set up other tents. I've seen

2895
01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:51,920
the um the amount of paperwork and the

2896
01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:53,840
amount of permits that you need. There's

2897
01:55:51,920 --> 01:55:55,520
so much people don't realize that,

2898
01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:57,440
right? You know, and then all hell break

2899
01:55:55,520 --> 01:56:00,080
and then when something happens, that's

2900
01:55:57,440 --> 01:56:01,599
when all hell breaks, right?

2901
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:02,639
So, I think all the power to them.

2902
01:56:01,599 --> 01:56:04,400
They're out in the water. They're going

2903
01:56:02,639 --> 01:56:05,679
to have a band on a like it sounds like

2904
01:56:04,400 --> 01:56:07,679
a lot of fun. They're gonna have a band

2905
01:56:05,679 --> 01:56:09,840
on a raft out there the whole bit. So,

2906
01:56:07,679 --> 01:56:10,880
all the power to them. Great for going

2907
01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:12,159
on.

2908
01:56:10,880 --> 01:56:14,080
» All right.

2909
01:56:12,159 --> 01:56:16,880
Um, the other thing I wanted to talk

2910
01:56:14,080 --> 01:56:19,360
about was this hiring prog process that

2911
01:56:16,880 --> 01:56:21,119
happened over the parks and waterways.

2912
01:56:19,360 --> 01:56:23,199
I'm I'm sort of disappointed that we

2913
01:56:21,119 --> 01:56:24,880
weren't involved in any of that. Like

2914
01:56:23,199 --> 01:56:27,280
because I've always looked at the fact

2915
01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:28,880
on the parks and waterways and it's

2916
01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:30,320
nothing against you at all, just so you

2917
01:56:28,880 --> 01:56:32,000
know, Mark, I think you're a great asset

2918
01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:33,679
to this and the whole bit, but it's just

2919
01:56:32,000 --> 01:56:36,080
the whole process that went on.

2920
01:56:33,679 --> 01:56:38,239
Normally, I know as a counselor, I used

2921
01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:40,080
to always talk to the people and I used

2922
01:56:38,239 --> 01:56:41,920
to talk to the people on parks and

2923
01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:44,880
waterways, too, because what you're

2924
01:56:41,920 --> 01:56:47,840
looking for is to mix somebody in with

2925
01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:49,679
the people um from park or from the

2926
01:56:47,840 --> 01:56:52,880
Lagoon City. And most of the people

2927
01:56:49,679 --> 01:56:54,320
sitting sitting here know of the person

2928
01:56:52,880 --> 01:56:55,679
the people that put their names in

2929
01:56:54,320 --> 01:56:57,280
because they've asked us, they've

2930
01:56:55,679 --> 01:56:59,119
touched base with us, they've asked us

2931
01:56:57,280 --> 01:57:00,800
what the job is. And so, we kind of

2932
01:56:59,119 --> 01:57:03,440
already know who's put their names. We

2933
01:57:00,800 --> 01:57:05,440
know who's going there. And I have never

2934
01:57:03,440 --> 01:57:07,360
been asked maybe a couple times by you

2935
01:57:05,440 --> 01:57:08,960
but never by yourself about what's your

2936
01:57:07,360 --> 01:57:11,119
opinion or what you're feeling or

2937
01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:12,719
anything like that. And I know when I

2938
01:57:11,119 --> 01:57:14,239
became a counselor the first thing I did

2939
01:57:12,719 --> 01:57:15,599
I called every single person on parks

2940
01:57:14,239 --> 01:57:17,440
and waterways to talk with each

2941
01:57:15,599 --> 01:57:18,800
individual and then I met with them just

2942
01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:21,599
to understand what was going to happen

2943
01:57:18,800 --> 01:57:23,040
when I became a counselor. And I I just

2944
01:57:21,599 --> 01:57:25,199
sort of feel like we got left out of

2945
01:57:23,040 --> 01:57:27,280
this whole process. I really did. I feel

2946
01:57:25,199 --> 01:57:29,440
like we got left out and I think it

2947
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:31,840
wouldn't have hurt to reached out and

2948
01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:33,920
spoke to us about it all. Uh, and I

2949
01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:35,360
think a lot of us do have experience. I

2950
01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:37,119
question, and I'm going to say it in the

2951
01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:39,360
nicest way on council, how many people

2952
01:57:37,119 --> 01:57:41,040
on council have an experience of what

2953
01:57:39,360 --> 01:57:42,400
goes on in parks and waterways and the

2954
01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:44,560
experience of hiring somebody, what

2955
01:57:42,400 --> 01:57:46,080
you're looking for. And just to finish

2956
01:57:44,560 --> 01:57:48,320
it, then I'll let you go. Is the fact

2957
01:57:46,080 --> 01:57:49,840
that when somebody says to me, well, he

2958
01:57:48,320 --> 01:57:52,080
was an engineer, so he was a great

2959
01:57:49,840 --> 01:57:53,520
choice. We have engineers here doing all

2960
01:57:52,080 --> 01:57:55,119
this information. If I was that

2961
01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:56,639
engineer, I'd be very careful with what

2962
01:57:55,119 --> 01:57:58,159
I say because he could get himself in

2963
01:57:56,639 --> 01:58:00,880
trouble, right, if we go by what he

2964
01:57:58,159 --> 01:58:02,639
said. So I I just wanted to make that I

2965
01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:04,880
I I want to make the point that part

2966
01:58:02,639 --> 01:58:06,719
it's part part of I don't know where we

2967
01:58:04,880 --> 01:58:09,360
stand as parks and waterways and that's

2968
01:58:06,719 --> 01:58:12,239
why I'd like to have the access that we

2969
01:58:09,360 --> 01:58:14,560
can go to our lawyer like our own lawyer

2970
01:58:12,239 --> 01:58:16,800
not your lawyer like and and I say

2971
01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:18,800
nicest way again but that is the lawyer

2972
01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:20,719
for the town and his job is to protect

2973
01:58:18,800 --> 01:58:22,800
the town and any other lawyer that's

2974
01:58:20,719 --> 01:58:24,239
involved that's his job. Well, I'd like

2975
01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:26,000
to get a lawyer that says, "Okay, parks

2976
01:58:24,239 --> 01:58:27,920
and waterways, this is what you have."

2977
01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:29,440
And when I hear about this, you know,

2978
01:58:27,920 --> 01:58:32,159
um, thing coming up in two weeks from

2979
01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:34,239
now, I I would like to get a heads up

2980
01:58:32,159 --> 01:58:36,480
with the lawyer where we stand on that

2981
01:58:34,239 --> 01:58:38,000
or where this could be going, right? And

2982
01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:40,400
who knows where this could go, right,

2983
01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:42,560
with what's about to be talked about.

2984
01:58:40,400 --> 01:58:44,560
And I I'll stop there because I want to

2985
01:58:42,560 --> 01:58:48,960
continue to that, but you can speak

2986
01:58:44,560 --> 01:58:50,400
there. Uh, counselor, Commissioner.

2987
01:58:48,960 --> 01:58:52,239
» Yeah. Uh, thank you, Chairman. I just

2988
01:58:50,400 --> 01:58:54,159
want to top up on on your point. You

2989
01:58:52,239 --> 01:58:58,800
made a valid point. I I think it's it's

2990
01:58:54,159 --> 01:59:01,679
it's dismissive and uh irresponsible

2991
01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:05,360
to not include the chairman in part of

2992
01:59:01,679 --> 01:59:07,040
the uh process of of of uh of that

2993
01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:10,880
hiring.

2994
01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:15,920
But uh I'm I'm grateful that Mark is on

2995
01:59:10,880 --> 01:59:18,239
and I think it's uh I had to uh ask Mark

2996
01:59:15,920 --> 01:59:20,159
three times to get his resume and I had

2997
01:59:18,239 --> 01:59:22,800
had a look at it. is very very

2998
01:59:20,159 --> 01:59:24,639
impressive and and Mark is very humble

2999
01:59:22,800 --> 01:59:27,199
and Mark is going to be a tremendous

3000
01:59:24,639 --> 01:59:29,040
value to to the parks and waterways

3001
01:59:27,199 --> 01:59:32,719
commission. So I want to I want to thank

3002
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:35,679
the committee uh the council to to

3003
01:59:32,719 --> 01:59:38,639
electing Mark as a as a commissioner but

3004
01:59:35,679 --> 01:59:40,639
I I think uh it's it's disrespectful and

3005
01:59:38,639 --> 01:59:42,960
dismissive for not to include the

3006
01:59:40,639 --> 01:59:45,840
chairman in that process. kind of

3007
01:59:42,960 --> 01:59:47,920
leading back to uh your other comment

3008
01:59:45,840 --> 01:59:50,239
about independent council for us. I

3009
01:59:47,920 --> 01:59:53,599
think it'd be uh it'd be the timing is

3010
01:59:50,239 --> 01:59:56,400
right now. I I I' I've witnessed things

3011
01:59:53,599 --> 01:59:57,679
where uh

3012
01:59:56,400 --> 01:59:59,760
it would it would be in the best

3013
01:59:57,679 --> 02:00:01,920
interest of the commission to have an

3014
01:59:59,760 --> 02:00:03,679
independent council as as we move

3015
02:00:01,920 --> 02:00:05,119
forward and and and I I think that

3016
02:00:03,679 --> 02:00:07,440
having this meeting coming up in a

3017
02:00:05,119 --> 02:00:09,840
couple weeks is great. having community

3018
02:00:07,440 --> 02:00:12,400
engagement is important uh especially

3019
02:00:09,840 --> 02:00:16,880
this particular uh October that's coming

3020
02:00:12,400 --> 02:00:19,599
up uh but the the it more more just for

3021
02:00:16,880 --> 02:00:23,119
a comment and I'll keep it fairly short

3022
02:00:19,599 --> 02:00:26,800
uh township Romero is unique in the

3023
02:00:23,119 --> 02:00:28,480
sense it has 16 kilometers of canal uh

3024
02:00:26,800 --> 02:00:30,960
which I don't know any other township in

3025
02:00:28,480 --> 02:00:33,840
Ontario has that so consequently you

3026
02:00:30,960 --> 02:00:37,440
know we have uh the lagoon city is is

3027
02:00:33,840 --> 02:00:39,599
unique and uh each resident pays like

3028
02:00:37,440 --> 02:00:44,239
$900 to $1,000

3029
02:00:39,599 --> 02:00:47,360
uh a year to to assist the township in

3030
02:00:44,239 --> 02:00:51,440
and uh m main maintaining the the canal

3031
02:00:47,360 --> 02:00:53,520
system which is is unique and uh uh I

3032
02:00:51,440 --> 02:00:56,480
think we have an obligation to maintain

3033
02:00:53,520 --> 02:01:00,080
the the commission and uh I'm looking

3034
02:00:56,480 --> 02:01:02,400
forward to this this meeting coming up u

3035
02:01:00,080 --> 02:01:04,320
and that's just my my comment uh

3036
02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:06,080
chairman [clears throat] thank you

3037
02:01:04,320 --> 02:01:08,080
» Well that'll be a good suggestion when

3038
02:01:06,080 --> 02:01:09,840
the consultants here and we're when

3039
02:01:08,080 --> 02:01:11,920
we're gathering the information that

3040
02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:13,360
because we like library board we appoint

3041
02:01:11,920 --> 02:01:14,800
the members and we appoint the members

3042
02:01:13,360 --> 02:01:16,719
to our community center boards but

3043
02:01:14,800 --> 02:01:18,800
sometimes throughout the year you and

3044
02:01:16,719 --> 02:01:20,239
you've seen it the board might say hey

3045
02:01:18,800 --> 02:01:22,400
we'd like to add this member to our

3046
02:01:20,239 --> 02:01:25,280
board and they make the request so maybe

3047
02:01:22,400 --> 02:01:27,119
one of the suggestions could be that the

3048
02:01:25,280 --> 02:01:28,800
commission recommends to council who

3049
02:01:27,119 --> 02:01:30,480
they would like to see added to the

3050
02:01:28,800 --> 02:01:32,239
board whenever there's a new member but

3051
02:01:30,480 --> 02:01:34,000
that would require a change in how we do

3052
02:01:32,239 --> 02:01:35,840
things but it's a good suggestion to put

3053
02:01:34,000 --> 02:01:37,119
in like any of these these concerns, now

3054
02:01:35,840 --> 02:01:38,719
is the time to bring it to that

3055
02:01:37,119 --> 02:01:40,960
consultant that the commissioner would

3056
02:01:38,719 --> 02:01:43,334
like more involvement in the appointees

3057
02:01:40,960 --> 02:01:43,440
on the board with recommendations.

3058
02:01:43,334 --> 02:01:45,280
[snorts]

3059
02:01:43,440 --> 02:01:46,800
» Yeah. So certainly go ahead.

3060
02:01:45,280 --> 02:01:47,920
» Yeah. I just want to top up on that a

3061
02:01:46,800 --> 02:01:49,440
little bit because I I don't want the

3062
02:01:47,920 --> 02:01:51,280
misunderstanding to ever feel that it

3063
02:01:49,440 --> 02:01:52,800
was a slight or nobody wanted to reach

3064
02:01:51,280 --> 02:01:54,320
out because that's the bylaws that we

3065
02:01:52,800 --> 02:01:56,560
have to follow, right? At this point in

3066
02:01:54,320 --> 02:01:58,159
time, bylaws are very clear that council

3067
02:01:56,560 --> 02:02:00,639
choose those members from those

3068
02:01:58,159 --> 02:02:02,080
applications. It's also confidential. So

3069
02:02:00,639 --> 02:02:04,239
we can't share that unless we change

3070
02:02:02,080 --> 02:02:05,840
those procedures. So that's the way this

3071
02:02:04,239 --> 02:02:07,360
whole system's been designed. So part of

3072
02:02:05,840 --> 02:02:08,800
my reason for the engagement and why

3073
02:02:07,360 --> 02:02:10,880
this consultation, I don't mind speaking

3074
02:02:08,800 --> 02:02:12,560
about that is because I believe that

3075
02:02:10,880 --> 02:02:13,920
levy payers should be the voters who

3076
02:02:12,560 --> 02:02:15,280
actually vote in the commission decide

3077
02:02:13,920 --> 02:02:16,880
in their community who they want to

3078
02:02:15,280 --> 02:02:18,320
represent them. And that's part of what

3079
02:02:16,880 --> 02:02:19,760
I'm hoping comes out of this and I hope

3080
02:02:18,320 --> 02:02:21,679
people speak up because I think that's

3081
02:02:19,760 --> 02:02:23,360
the best way to do it so that you have

3082
02:02:21,679 --> 02:02:24,560
the people you want to represent who

3083
02:02:23,360 --> 02:02:26,560
want this commission. You'll still have

3084
02:02:24,560 --> 02:02:27,840
two members appointed from council, but

3085
02:02:26,560 --> 02:02:30,800
you'll you'll be able to choose a

3086
02:02:27,840 --> 02:02:33,440
majority that can actually create the

3087
02:02:30,800 --> 02:02:35,679
votes. But I I guess part of the problem

3088
02:02:33,440 --> 02:02:37,360
that we had with that is that the system

3089
02:02:35,679 --> 02:02:39,920
way it worked is they reached out and

3090
02:02:37,360 --> 02:02:41,280
spoke to us. Nobody spoke to us. They

3091
02:02:39,920 --> 02:02:43,040
first we heard that this whole

3092
02:02:41,280 --> 02:02:45,280
interviewing process was happening when

3093
02:02:43,040 --> 02:02:46,800
it happened. Where did that decision

3094
02:02:45,280 --> 02:02:48,000
come from? Right? Like where how did

3095
02:02:46,800 --> 02:02:49,440
that all happened? Like we had nothing

3096
02:02:48,000 --> 02:02:51,760
to do with it. Nobody told us anything

3097
02:02:49,440 --> 02:02:54,159
about it. And going to this review

3098
02:02:51,760 --> 02:02:56,480
that's coming up. I'm 100% I asked for

3099
02:02:54,159 --> 02:02:59,040
it. So like we asked for it. I I believe

3100
02:02:56,480 --> 02:03:00,800
we all asked for it. But I what I didn't

3101
02:02:59,040 --> 02:03:02,480
like about it was when I I don't like

3102
02:03:00,800 --> 02:03:04,719
the wording. And when I look at the

3103
02:03:02,480 --> 02:03:08,719
wording there, it's like it could turn

3104
02:03:04,719 --> 02:03:10,159
into a uh situation over the the

3105
02:03:08,719 --> 02:03:11,840
people on parks and waterways. And

3106
02:03:10,159 --> 02:03:14,080
that's what kind of bothers me. I'd like

3107
02:03:11,840 --> 02:03:16,960
to see I would like to know and I read

3108
02:03:14,080 --> 02:03:18,800
in there further. I like to know what

3109
02:03:16,960 --> 02:03:20,320
you're we're telling the people to come

3110
02:03:18,800 --> 02:03:22,159
because if somebody says I've got no

3111
02:03:20,320 --> 02:03:23,760
problems with the parks and waterways,

3112
02:03:22,159 --> 02:03:25,840
then they're not coming. But if they

3113
02:03:23,760 --> 02:03:28,320
have ideas to make it better or they

3114
02:03:25,840 --> 02:03:29,520
have ideas on what we should do, like as

3115
02:03:28,320 --> 02:03:30,800
you said about the election, I don't

3116
02:03:29,520 --> 02:03:32,239
have an issue with that. I said that

3117
02:03:30,800 --> 02:03:34,159
eight years ago. That was one of the

3118
02:03:32,239 --> 02:03:35,840
ideas that we looked at. But I don't

3119
02:03:34,159 --> 02:03:37,199
have a problem with that. But what I

3120
02:03:35,840 --> 02:03:38,639
think we got to do is make sure that

3121
02:03:37,199 --> 02:03:40,239
it's not just going to turn into a

3122
02:03:38,639 --> 02:03:42,560
complaint session. And that's what it

3123
02:03:40,239 --> 02:03:43,920
read. I handed to a couple people when I

3124
02:03:42,560 --> 02:03:45,360
received it yesterday and that's what

3125
02:03:43,920 --> 02:03:46,639
they said to me. That's what they read

3126
02:03:45,360 --> 02:03:49,040
in it too because I wanted to make sure

3127
02:03:46,639 --> 02:03:50,320
I wasn't being oversensitive over this.

3128
02:03:49,040 --> 02:03:53,199
And that's what I didn't like about it.

3129
02:03:50,320 --> 02:03:55,599
So, I'm hoping that there's some sort of

3130
02:03:53,199 --> 02:03:57,440
guidance, not at the meeting, but before

3131
02:03:55,599 --> 02:03:58,800
the meeting, so people can actually

3132
02:03:57,440 --> 02:04:00,639
prepare for it because it's in two

3133
02:03:58,800 --> 02:04:02,239
weeks. And to me, I think it's one of

3134
02:04:00,639 --> 02:04:03,920
the most important things for parks and

3135
02:04:02,239 --> 02:04:05,520
waterways. I really did. I really feel

3136
02:04:03,920 --> 02:04:06,880
it was an important thing. But if it's

3137
02:04:05,520 --> 02:04:09,599
coming and there's just a complaint

3138
02:04:06,880 --> 02:04:10,800
session. Sorry. Um I think I'm stopping

3139
02:04:09,599 --> 02:04:12,000
here. What's What's wrong?

3140
02:04:10,800 --> 02:04:13,280
» Through the chair, um you're welcome to

3141
02:04:12,000 --> 02:04:16,000
finish your thought. I just had a couple

3142
02:04:13,280 --> 02:04:17,040
things to add uh if able when when it is

3143
02:04:16,000 --> 02:04:17,920
time.

3144
02:04:17,040 --> 02:04:19,199
» What? Sorry.

3145
02:04:17,920 --> 02:04:20,480
» Uh through the chair, you're welcome to

3146
02:04:19,199 --> 02:04:22,719
finish your thought. I just had a few

3147
02:04:20,480 --> 02:04:24,880
things to add to clarify the process if

3148
02:04:22,719 --> 02:04:27,360
there is an opportunity to do so.

3149
02:04:24,880 --> 02:04:29,199
» Okay. Um so that that was the point that

3150
02:04:27,360 --> 02:04:31,760
I was trying to make with that. I was

3151
02:04:29,199 --> 02:04:33,760
going to lead into that next. I know um

3152
02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:35,199
commissioner wanted to speak. Uh but

3153
02:04:33,760 --> 02:04:38,239
that that's what we really need to look

3154
02:04:35,199 --> 02:04:40,400
at. That that's I guess and that's where

3155
02:04:38,239 --> 02:04:42,159
I would actually like to actually talk

3156
02:04:40,400 --> 02:04:43,679
to an independent lawyer so that we know

3157
02:04:42,159 --> 02:04:45,760
where we stand on some of these things

3158
02:04:43,679 --> 02:04:47,599
like to come back out and he may look at

3159
02:04:45,760 --> 02:04:48,960
and say no absolutely not. You can you

3160
02:04:47,599 --> 02:04:50,400
should be able to do this. you should

3161
02:04:48,960 --> 02:04:52,320
have this rights, you should be able to

3162
02:04:50,400 --> 02:04:55,280
have this, right? And I think it would

3163
02:04:52,320 --> 02:04:58,560
help all the commission. Um, and and not

3164
02:04:55,280 --> 02:04:59,920
sometimes I feel like it's you guys and

3165
02:04:58,560 --> 02:05:01,679
us guys, right? And that's where

3166
02:04:59,920 --> 02:05:03,119
sometimes I don't like that feeling and

3167
02:05:01,679 --> 02:05:05,360
I don't think it's right because we

3168
02:05:03,119 --> 02:05:07,599
never had that feeling before. We never

3169
02:05:05,360 --> 02:05:10,159
we had a good relationship with council.

3170
02:05:07,599 --> 02:05:12,560
We had it worked out perfectly the way

3171
02:05:10,159 --> 02:05:14,400
that we had the deputy mayor. We had me

3172
02:05:12,560 --> 02:05:16,239
as I guess the counselor and it was

3173
02:05:14,400 --> 02:05:19,119
phenomenal. And the deputy mayor at that

3174
02:05:16,239 --> 02:05:20,960
time, he he did it correctly. He was a

3175
02:05:19,119 --> 02:05:22,880
commissioner when he sat here and he was

3176
02:05:20,960 --> 02:05:25,119
a counselor when he sat as counsel. And

3177
02:05:22,880 --> 02:05:28,480
he went both ways. And it's a hard thing

3178
02:05:25,119 --> 02:05:29,920
to wear two hats, you know.

3179
02:05:28,480 --> 02:05:32,480
» Well, that's what I'm just saying.

3180
02:05:29,920 --> 02:05:35,480
There's got to be like a give and take,

3181
02:05:32,480 --> 02:05:35,480
» Huh?

3182
02:05:35,840 --> 02:05:37,760
» Yeah.

3183
02:05:36,239 --> 02:05:39,440
» Well, it's not like we're going to go

3184
02:05:37,760 --> 02:05:40,800
consult them all the time. What I'm

3185
02:05:39,440 --> 02:05:42,800
saying is that it's just like there's

3186
02:05:40,800 --> 02:05:44,639
some questions that we've had and you

3187
02:05:42,800 --> 02:05:46,560
know I don't think your lawyer really

3188
02:05:44,639 --> 02:05:49,119
wants to speak to us on that, right?

3189
02:05:46,560 --> 02:05:51,360
He's representing you guys.

3190
02:05:49,119 --> 02:05:52,639
» And I I do think just in clarification I

3191
02:05:51,360 --> 02:05:53,840
think going back it's important for

3192
02:05:52,639 --> 02:05:55,920
people to understand the history because

3193
02:05:53,840 --> 02:05:58,080
I believe out of the PR11 it gave

3194
02:05:55,920 --> 02:06:00,400
council the the ability to create a

3195
02:05:58,080 --> 02:06:02,000
commission based on a bylaw which was

3196
02:06:00,400 --> 02:06:04,159
done in 2005 to delegate

3197
02:06:02,000 --> 02:06:05,760
responsibilities to the commission. So

3198
02:06:04,159 --> 02:06:07,599
going back in history, that's how it's

3199
02:06:05,760 --> 02:06:09,599
kind of evolved through the time from my

3200
02:06:07,599 --> 02:06:12,000
understanding of what it is. Uh but I'll

3201
02:06:09,599 --> 02:06:13,599
let uh maybe Rebecca want to jump on

3202
02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:14,800
» I

3203
02:06:13,599 --> 02:06:17,599
» Um through the chair, I just wanted to

3204
02:06:14,800 --> 02:06:18,800
clarify a bit about the legislation and

3205
02:06:17,599 --> 02:06:21,440
uh just note a few things for the

3206
02:06:18,800 --> 02:06:22,960
commission's knowledge. So the power to

3207
02:06:21,440 --> 02:06:24,800
appoint and remove members of the

3208
02:06:22,960 --> 02:06:26,960
commission is appointed to council

3209
02:06:24,800 --> 02:06:29,599
through bill PR11

3210
02:06:26,960 --> 02:06:32,639
and that is included in the the MARA

3211
02:06:29,599 --> 02:06:34,079
act. Uh and then the commission

3212
02:06:32,639 --> 02:06:35,599
responsibility would be to appoint a

3213
02:06:34,079 --> 02:06:39,199
chair of the commission andor designate

3214
02:06:35,599 --> 02:06:40,719
a meeting chair. Um council can decide

3215
02:06:39,199 --> 02:06:42,560
what that process looks like for

3216
02:06:40,719 --> 02:06:44,480
appointment and removal. So that was

3217
02:06:42,560 --> 02:06:47,040
what part of what occurred with the most

3218
02:06:44,480 --> 02:06:48,800
recent uh appointment is that council

3219
02:06:47,040 --> 02:06:51,360
directed to do interviews. So that's

3220
02:06:48,800 --> 02:06:53,520
what we proceeded with. Uh but

3221
02:06:51,360 --> 02:06:55,840
ultimately the bill is what gives that

3222
02:06:53,520 --> 02:06:57,119
authority to council to do so. Uh, I

3223
02:06:55,840 --> 02:06:59,440
would just like to also note for the

3224
02:06:57,119 --> 02:07:02,239
commission that a legal opinion uh was

3225
02:06:59,440 --> 02:07:03,360
secured by the commission in 2025 giving

3226
02:07:02,239 --> 02:07:04,960
a summary of the roles and

3227
02:07:03,360 --> 02:07:06,320
responsibilities for the Lagoon City

3228
02:07:04,960 --> 02:07:08,880
Parks and Waterways Commission and the

3229
02:07:06,320 --> 02:07:12,760
Township of Amara. This is available on

3230
02:07:08,880 --> 02:07:12,760
our website at www.rra.ca/lcpwc.

3231
02:07:13,440 --> 02:07:16,880
So, it's linked for anyone to review and

3232
02:07:15,040 --> 02:07:18,639
it does break down what the roles and

3233
02:07:16,880 --> 02:07:20,800
responsibilities are for each under the

3234
02:07:18,639 --> 02:07:22,960
MARA act and under the uh establishing

3235
02:07:20,800 --> 02:07:24,239
bylaw. So, if you haven't seen that, I

3236
02:07:22,960 --> 02:07:26,960
certainly encourage taking a look at it

3237
02:07:24,239 --> 02:07:29,920
because it is a good breakdown. Um, the

3238
02:07:26,960 --> 02:07:32,880
commission is welcome to secure its own

3239
02:07:29,920 --> 02:07:34,159
legal uh representative at any point. We

3240
02:07:32,880 --> 02:07:37,440
would just have to make sure that there

3241
02:07:34,159 --> 02:07:39,760
is a budget approved for it as that is

3242
02:07:37,440 --> 02:07:41,360
one of the um requirements of the MARA

3243
02:07:39,760 --> 02:07:42,639
Act is that the budget for the

3244
02:07:41,360 --> 02:07:44,400
commission needs to be approved by

3245
02:07:42,639 --> 02:07:46,000
council. So, if it's not in our current

3246
02:07:44,400 --> 02:07:49,199
budget, then requests would need to be

3247
02:07:46,000 --> 02:07:50,719
made to council to um approve that

3248
02:07:49,199 --> 02:07:54,159
budget. But it is within the

3249
02:07:50,719 --> 02:07:55,840
commission's um purview if they would

3250
02:07:54,159 --> 02:08:00,040
like to seek independent legal advice to

3251
02:07:55,840 --> 02:08:00,040
do so as long as it's within budget.

3252
02:08:02,079 --> 02:08:07,360
» So I think it's tied in already. So it's

3253
02:08:04,560 --> 02:08:09,280
in the budget. The other thing to um I

3254
02:08:07,360 --> 02:08:10,719
did read exactly what you what you read

3255
02:08:09,280 --> 02:08:12,719
there about what our job is because you

3256
02:08:10,719 --> 02:08:14,159
sent it all to us. But what I guess the

3257
02:08:12,719 --> 02:08:15,840
point I was trying to make is the fact

3258
02:08:14,159 --> 02:08:17,840
that nobody reached out from council to

3259
02:08:15,840 --> 02:08:20,719
us and kept us informed, even asked our

3260
02:08:17,840 --> 02:08:22,480
opinions and that the way it always had

3261
02:08:20,719 --> 02:08:25,280
been and we did follow the rules like

3262
02:08:22,480 --> 02:08:27,599
you know before but it was more of a a

3263
02:08:25,280 --> 02:08:29,920
input that came right in. It worked

3264
02:08:27,599 --> 02:08:31,679
well. I I I never had an issue with it

3265
02:08:29,920 --> 02:08:33,280
like when we did it like and I'm just I

3266
02:08:31,679 --> 02:08:37,920
was kind of disappointed with what I saw

3267
02:08:33,280 --> 02:08:40,400
right there. And um and I think um

3268
02:08:37,920 --> 02:08:41,520
Commissioner uh like it's great. I think

3269
02:08:40,400 --> 02:08:43,040
you're gonna do a great job. I think

3270
02:08:41,520 --> 02:08:44,719
you're a really good asset. So, it's

3271
02:08:43,040 --> 02:08:48,159
nothing against you. It's just that this

3272
02:08:44,719 --> 02:08:49,840
all came up over this talking. So, but

3273
02:08:48,159 --> 02:08:51,520
anyways, that's what I'd like to do is

3274
02:08:49,840 --> 02:08:53,840
like reach out and just talk to this

3275
02:08:51,520 --> 02:08:55,520
lawyer because as you know, talking to

3276
02:08:53,840 --> 02:08:58,480
like Ryan, he works for you. That's

3277
02:08:55,520 --> 02:09:00,159
that's how simple it is. Okay. And I did

3278
02:08:58,480 --> 02:09:01,599
not know that, thank you, Rebecca, that

3279
02:09:00,159 --> 02:09:03,679
we can get our own independent counsel.

3280
02:09:01,599 --> 02:09:05,599
I just wanted to double check that.

3281
02:09:03,679 --> 02:09:08,079
» So, basically the actual money that we

3282
02:09:05,599 --> 02:09:09,199
put for legal is kind of for us too,

3283
02:09:08,079 --> 02:09:10,800
right?

3284
02:09:09,199 --> 02:09:13,679
» To the chair. Yes, it's just dependent

3285
02:09:10,800 --> 02:09:16,400
on if the budget is available within the

3286
02:09:13,679 --> 02:09:18,079
current year. Um, so if there is

3287
02:09:16,400 --> 02:09:20,159
availability remaining in that budget

3288
02:09:18,079 --> 02:09:22,239
line, uh, the commission can direct how

3289
02:09:20,159 --> 02:09:24,079
that budget is to be used. If there

3290
02:09:22,239 --> 02:09:25,679
isn't budget remaining, then a request

3291
02:09:24,079 --> 02:09:28,880
would need to be made to council for

3292
02:09:25,679 --> 02:09:30,800
approval to have that budget allocated.

3293
02:09:28,880 --> 02:09:32,480
So if it if you're looking to transfer

3294
02:09:30,800 --> 02:09:34,159
money from reserves, for example, that

3295
02:09:32,480 --> 02:09:34,719
would need to go to council to have that

3296
02:09:34,159 --> 02:09:36,159
approved

3297
02:09:34,719 --> 02:09:38,000
» If we had to transfer money.

3298
02:09:36,159 --> 02:09:39,679
» Exactly. Yes. which I think we already

3299
02:09:38,000 --> 02:09:41,520
did for that massive amount of money

3300
02:09:39,679 --> 02:09:45,199
that came right. So I don't remember

3301
02:09:41,520 --> 02:09:46,560
asking for permission. Do you

3302
02:09:45,199 --> 02:09:49,599
» I believe there is money left in the

3303
02:09:46,560 --> 02:09:54,679
legal budget this year too.

3304
02:09:49,599 --> 02:09:54,679
» And that was um

3305
02:09:56,639 --> 02:10:05,000
process. Okay. So we are going there and

3306
02:09:59,840 --> 02:10:05,000
that's all I got. Do you have any

3307
02:10:08,960 --> 02:10:14,239
» Does anybody else have any new business

3308
02:10:10,719 --> 02:10:15,920
or Okay. So, I don't have to put any

3309
02:10:14,239 --> 02:10:16,320
motions forward, Rebecca. And nothing

3310
02:10:15,920 --> 02:10:17,760
here.

3311
02:10:16,320 --> 02:10:19,520
» Uh through the chair, if there's no

3312
02:10:17,760 --> 02:10:20,960
action coming out of those items, then

3313
02:10:19,520 --> 02:10:23,199
no, they'll just be listed on the

3314
02:10:20,960 --> 02:10:24,560
minutes as that they were discussed. Um

3315
02:10:23,199 --> 02:10:26,880
if there are any actions you would like

3316
02:10:24,560 --> 02:10:28,719
to see or any direction for future

3317
02:10:26,880 --> 02:10:32,719
meetings, please let us know and we will

3318
02:10:28,719 --> 02:10:32,719
put that on a future agenda if needed.

3319
02:10:33,679 --> 02:10:39,199
Yeah, there's a couple other things I

3320
02:10:35,199 --> 02:10:42,159
think. Um, there's no close session. No.

3321
02:10:39,199 --> 02:10:46,239
Um, adjournment. Um, going to put it on

3322
02:10:42,159 --> 02:10:47,760
the floor that we adjourn at 11:41.

3323
02:10:46,239 --> 02:10:49,679
Um,

3324
02:10:47,760 --> 02:10:51,840
huh. Put on the floor of the mayor.

3325
02:10:49,679 --> 02:10:56,119
Second by the deputy mayor. All in

3326
02:10:51,840 --> 02:10:56,119
favor? 11:41.