1 00:02:18,189 --> 00:02:23,502 Good morning. So I will call the special council meeting 2 00:02:23,502 --> 00:02:26,102 for June 20 eigth to order, and I'll ask everybody 3 00:02:26,102 --> 00:02:27,782 for a moment of silence and personal reflection. 4 00:02:37,304 --> 00:02:44,458 Okay. Thank you. It is important to begin each public 5 00:02:44,458 --> 00:02:47,578 gathering with a land and territorial acknowledgment. To recognize the 6 00:02:47,578 --> 00:02:50,058 indigenous people for being good stewards of the land and 7 00:02:50,058 --> 00:02:53,258 environment. Here, where we are meeting today. The township of 8 00:02:53,258 --> 00:02:55,698 Brock has traditionally been a hunting and fishing ground for 9 00:02:55,698 --> 00:02:58,618 First nations people we reside on and benefit from the 10 00:02:58,618 --> 00:03:01,578 Williams Treaty territories on the land of the Mississaugas and 11 00:03:01,578 --> 00:03:04,052 Chippewas. May we? Share the land. As long as the 12 00:03:04,052 --> 00:03:08,343 sun rises, the grass grows and the river flows. Look 13 00:03:08,343 --> 00:03:11,143 now for any declarations of pecuniary interest and the nature 14 00:03:11,143 --> 00:03:16,872 thereof. See none. We do not have a closed session, 15 00:03:16,872 --> 00:03:20,506 so there's no need to rise from it. No delegations. 16 00:03:20,506 --> 00:03:26,079 We have one report today. Report 9.1 report. 20 to 17 00:03:26,079 --> 00:03:33,114 24 prf. Prfina timelines and project manager tender. And I'm 18 00:03:33,114 --> 00:03:36,874 going to look for a mover and a seconder for 19 00:03:36,874 --> 00:03:43,652 that, please. Councilor Campbell and regional councilor jub. Are you 20 00:03:43,652 --> 00:03:49,450 moving the recommended motion, Councilor Campbell? Yes, I am. Okay. 21 00:03:49,450 --> 00:03:52,930 And did you have any questions? Well, actually, I guess 22 00:03:52,930 --> 00:03:56,130 we need to just clarify one part. Of the motion, 23 00:03:56,130 --> 00:04:00,570 and that is direction on the ice for Sunderland, so. 24 00:04:03,490 --> 00:04:07,663 If you could just. Clarify that section of it, Councilor 25 00:04:07,663 --> 00:04:11,140 Campbell. I thought you were going to call on staff 26 00:04:11,140 --> 00:04:17,768 for that. Well, I guess because. The project managers feel 27 00:04:17,768 --> 00:04:21,328 that they need the time to get all the ducks 28 00:04:21,328 --> 00:04:24,448 in a row to get the Reim project started next 29 00:04:24,448 --> 00:04:27,869 April. It's a good idea to put the ice in 30 00:04:27,869 --> 00:04:30,389 Sunderland after all. For this season, I'm sure a lot 31 00:04:30,389 --> 00:04:33,549 of ice users will be happy about that anyway. And 32 00:04:33,549 --> 00:04:37,945 all the work that Wayne and Alicia did. To accommodate 33 00:04:37,945 --> 00:04:42,769 the ice users in two rinks for this season. I 34 00:04:42,769 --> 00:04:46,698 guess that template could be used next year. Okay, so 35 00:04:46,698 --> 00:04:50,905 the motion will read then, of course. The first chunk 36 00:04:50,905 --> 00:04:53,945 of it. But the last section of the motion will 37 00:04:53,945 --> 00:04:57,465 be that council direct staff. To put the ice in 38 00:04:57,465 --> 00:05:03,300 the Sunland arena for the 2024 2025 season. So. That 39 00:05:03,300 --> 00:05:05,820 being said, then, did you want to speak further to 40 00:05:05,820 --> 00:05:11,034 that councilor Campbell? Well, I'm just happy that things are 41 00:05:11,034 --> 00:05:15,409 progressing. Not. Maybe as quickly as many of us would 42 00:05:15,409 --> 00:05:18,569 like, but I'm glad we're moving forward with the next 43 00:05:18,569 --> 00:05:21,569 step of getting a project manager and getting that show 44 00:05:21,569 --> 00:05:26,468 on the. Okay. As secondary regional councilor Jubb, did you 45 00:05:26,468 --> 00:05:30,068 have anything on the motion or the report? Yeah. Thank 46 00:05:30,068 --> 00:05:34,138 you, Mr. Mayor, just briefly. Definitely unfortunate that the timelines 47 00:05:34,138 --> 00:05:37,778 are now being extended. Doesn't surprise me overly, especially with 48 00:05:37,778 --> 00:05:39,578 that winter work price. I heard it might be up 49 00:05:39,578 --> 00:05:42,578 to 20% just in the last couple. Of months, but, 50 00:05:42,578 --> 00:05:46,298 yeah, we have three pros, professionals, project managers, telling us 51 00:05:46,298 --> 00:05:49,018 that this is a realistic timeline, so I really don't 52 00:05:49,018 --> 00:05:51,338 want to hold up our user groups, and then we 53 00:05:51,338 --> 00:05:54,499 get to September, October. And arena sitting there empty. And 54 00:05:54,499 --> 00:05:56,859 everyone changed their life for that. I don't think it 55 00:05:56,859 --> 00:05:59,779 would look good on the corporation or any of us. 56 00:05:59,779 --> 00:06:02,819 Now, to Michelle. I'd like to just dig into the 57 00:06:02,819 --> 00:06:06,623 project manager and how we got here. We've talked about 58 00:06:06,623 --> 00:06:10,583 having the Cadillac project manager, the Buick. Lots of risk. 59 00:06:10,583 --> 00:06:13,423 Maybe not so. Much risk. What are we getting here? 60 00:06:13,423 --> 00:06:17,452 With what you're recommending? Through to councilor jump. I'm going 61 00:06:17,452 --> 00:06:24,268 to speak on behalf of the CAO. So we went 62 00:06:24,268 --> 00:06:30,215 through the process of a RFP. With outside consultant. We 63 00:06:30,215 --> 00:06:31,895 put it out on bids and tenders. We had a 64 00:06:31,895 --> 00:06:37,120 number of plan takers. Take a look at this project. 65 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,800 We had three submissions. The submissions were from Altis group, 66 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:45,498 colliers. And cbre. The process that we went through was 67 00:06:45,498 --> 00:06:53,231 to review their submissions. Once we reviewed those. As the 68 00:06:53,231 --> 00:06:56,071 team that was basically working on this, the CAO, the 69 00:06:56,071 --> 00:07:00,631 director of finance, myself and our consultant. We felt that. 70 00:07:02,693 --> 00:07:05,053 One of the submissions was not to the point where 71 00:07:05,053 --> 00:07:08,595 we could move forward into the interview process. The second 72 00:07:08,595 --> 00:07:13,523 stage is interviews. Second stage was a tactical review. We 73 00:07:13,523 --> 00:07:19,181 looked. Into. The documents very well came up with a 74 00:07:19,181 --> 00:07:22,501 series of questions. We then went through an interview process. 75 00:07:22,501 --> 00:07:26,742 With the two. That moved up to. The next stage, 76 00:07:26,742 --> 00:07:31,043 which was CPRE and colliers. After the interviews had been 77 00:07:31,043 --> 00:07:35,883 concluded, we did our scoring and it was felt that 78 00:07:35,883 --> 00:07:39,523 the one did not meet the threshold to move forward 79 00:07:39,523 --> 00:07:42,483 to the next step, which is opening up the envelope. 80 00:07:42,483 --> 00:07:45,883 So. At this point, we only had one of the 81 00:07:45,883 --> 00:07:50,941 three that we opened the pricing envelope for. This is 82 00:07:50,941 --> 00:07:55,787 kind of in accordance with. Our procurement bylaws and standard 83 00:07:55,787 --> 00:08:00,957 practice for this type of procurement. Okay. Thanks for that, 84 00:08:00,957 --> 00:08:04,397 Wayne. That does help. We have talked about the Cadillac 85 00:08:04,397 --> 00:08:07,317 and the Buick. What? Are we getting with what you're 86 00:08:07,317 --> 00:08:10,117 recommending here? Like we talked about risk a lot. So 87 00:08:10,117 --> 00:08:12,437 sometimes you pay more for a project manager that takes 88 00:08:12,437 --> 00:08:15,037 on more risk. Sometimes you pay a little less, but 89 00:08:15,037 --> 00:08:17,317 the municipality takes on a little more risk. What are 90 00:08:17,317 --> 00:08:21,313 we getting with this? Through the chair to regional counselor 91 00:08:21,313 --> 00:08:23,313 job. I don't know if I would call it a 92 00:08:23,313 --> 00:08:27,297 Cadillac, but. We're certainly in the higher end, I would 93 00:08:27,297 --> 00:08:32,952 say. Looking at what these submissions were. The designated project 94 00:08:32,952 --> 00:08:36,726 manager that. We are looking to bring forward is going 95 00:08:36,726 --> 00:08:40,619 to be very much involved in this project. So we're 96 00:08:40,619 --> 00:08:43,099 not having somebody basically cutting their teeth on our project. 97 00:08:44,978 --> 00:08:46,698 Okay, that's good to hear. Because when we've talked to 98 00:08:46,698 --> 00:08:50,498 other municipalities, short distance. Away. They've hired a project manager. 99 00:08:50,498 --> 00:08:52,138 They're in Toronto. They don't even. See them. So it 100 00:08:52,138 --> 00:08:55,498 ends up being the director of everything that's there every 101 00:08:55,498 --> 00:08:58,458 day when the project manager wasn't even there, so I'm 102 00:08:58,458 --> 00:09:01,498 glad to hear that Wayne is. It possible to the 103 00:09:01,498 --> 00:09:04,258 design and desk committee? Can we get those tender documents 104 00:09:04,258 --> 00:09:06,407 so we know? As a committee, exactly what we're getting. 105 00:09:08,471 --> 00:09:13,674 The tender, I believe. We can make available to you. 106 00:09:14,987 --> 00:09:17,797 I just have to find the document. We can also 107 00:09:17,797 --> 00:09:22,504 provide you. The presentations or the submissions that were provided 108 00:09:22,504 --> 00:09:25,304 to us. Okay, I think that'll help our Desculpt and 109 00:09:25,304 --> 00:09:28,224 design committee just to understand exactly what the role of 110 00:09:28,224 --> 00:09:32,649 that project manager is going to be. Certainly. Okay, now 111 00:09:32,649 --> 00:09:36,137 start times. When is the project manager going to start 112 00:09:36,137 --> 00:09:42,079 working for us? We have to finalize the contract. With 113 00:09:42,079 --> 00:09:45,414 the company. I'd have to look at the timelines in 114 00:09:45,414 --> 00:09:49,934 their chart just to confirm. Timelines? Of when they're starting. 115 00:09:49,934 --> 00:09:53,688 I believe it's in two to three weeks. I just 116 00:09:53,688 --> 00:09:57,168 can't confirm that at this point. Okay. And did you 117 00:09:57,168 --> 00:10:00,208 say we're. Getting, like, one assigned project manager, not a 118 00:10:00,208 --> 00:10:04,593 whole bunch coming in and out. So one of the 119 00:10:04,593 --> 00:10:09,223 parts. Of the submission that was placed was that there 120 00:10:09,223 --> 00:10:13,284 would be a designated project manager. There would be a 121 00:10:13,284 --> 00:10:17,380 project manager and there would be a project coordinator. Working 122 00:10:17,380 --> 00:10:20,820 as a team. Basically, the designated project manager is overseeing 123 00:10:20,820 --> 00:10:25,921 the entire project, and there is a person above. That 124 00:10:25,921 --> 00:10:28,721 DPM, as we're calling it, that is kind of the 125 00:10:28,721 --> 00:10:32,081 principle of the company. That's overseeing a number of projects 126 00:10:32,081 --> 00:10:34,641 and will have their hand in it a little bit. 127 00:10:34,641 --> 00:10:38,521 Just as kind of the overall supervisor, the project manager. 128 00:10:39,876 --> 00:10:43,436 Will have some involvement, mostly in some of the meetings 129 00:10:43,436 --> 00:10:46,196 and taking minutes and things like that, and. That would 130 00:10:46,196 --> 00:10:49,156 also fall down to the project coordinator. There's also a 131 00:10:49,156 --> 00:10:52,156 number of other people that will be involved from the 132 00:10:52,156 --> 00:11:01,892 corporation. People for cost consultants. Ff and e specialists, just 133 00:11:01,892 --> 00:11:04,372 kind of specialists where we would need certain things based 134 00:11:04,372 --> 00:11:07,568 on where we are within the project. Okay? And that's 135 00:11:07,568 --> 00:11:13,250 all included in this $300,000. Quote. That's correct, yes. Okay. 136 00:11:13,250 --> 00:11:16,290 That sounds very thorough. I'm feeling better, by the minute. 137 00:11:16,290 --> 00:11:19,970 Okay. The desk and design committee, very important we get 138 00:11:19,970 --> 00:11:22,010 this rolling because we have a lot. Of work to 139 00:11:22,010 --> 00:11:24,010 do and how we could have done it by September. 140 00:11:25,722 --> 00:11:28,082 Is probably correct. Out of touch. Can we get this 141 00:11:28,082 --> 00:11:30,842 committee to meet for our first real time in July. 142 00:11:30,842 --> 00:11:34,641 Can that be a realistic goal? I doubt we could 143 00:11:34,641 --> 00:11:40,431 meet in July. Just because we've got to get the 144 00:11:40,431 --> 00:11:44,490 contract in place. With the corporation that we're going to 145 00:11:44,490 --> 00:11:49,255 be moving forward with. Kind of get them on board. 146 00:11:49,255 --> 00:11:53,135 It might be late July, maybe early August. That's fair. 147 00:11:53,135 --> 00:11:57,652 Late July. Early August is good. And I'd like to 148 00:11:57,652 --> 00:12:02,579 meet on site with for that one win. I'm sure 149 00:12:02,579 --> 00:12:05,259 we can do that. Okay. Have we talked to our 150 00:12:05,259 --> 00:12:09,098 lions reps in regards to this. No, we have not. 151 00:12:12,638 --> 00:12:14,718 This is what this meeting is for, is to bring 152 00:12:14,718 --> 00:12:18,249 this forward to council. And then we would move forward 153 00:12:18,249 --> 00:12:20,809 with our desk committee and all of the persons that 154 00:12:20,809 --> 00:12:23,929 are involved. In this project after the decision of council 155 00:12:23,929 --> 00:12:26,529 here. Okay, as soon as we're done this. Meeting. Can 156 00:12:26,529 --> 00:12:30,225 someone shoot them off? A courtesy email, please. We can 157 00:12:30,225 --> 00:12:34,705 do that. Perfect. Okay. Looking into 2025, we had some 158 00:12:34,705 --> 00:12:37,385 issues, I think, with the fair where they didn't think 159 00:12:37,385 --> 00:12:39,265 they got the heads up that this was happening. Can 160 00:12:39,265 --> 00:12:41,465 we also make sure that we get out this out 161 00:12:41,465 --> 00:12:44,585 for next year now, so everybody knows exactly we're putting 162 00:12:44,585 --> 00:12:47,776 a shovel in the ground. On whatever the date is, 163 00:12:47,776 --> 00:12:49,096 and then if we need to move it by a 164 00:12:49,096 --> 00:12:50,976 week or so. We can do it. But can we 165 00:12:50,976 --> 00:12:52,656 get that out as soon as possible, just so we 166 00:12:52,656 --> 00:12:55,416 don't run into that hiccup again. We're going to coordinate 167 00:12:55,416 --> 00:12:58,776 with all of our user groups and get this new 168 00:12:58,776 --> 00:13:01,976 timeline posted on our website as well. Okay, thanks, Wayne. 169 00:13:01,976 --> 00:13:05,416 Perfect. Last comment news release the public is going to 170 00:13:05,416 --> 00:13:07,875 be very anxious. What. 's happening here. I'm sure everyone's 171 00:13:07,875 --> 00:13:09,435 going to know when they get their ice time back. 172 00:13:09,435 --> 00:13:12,752 What's happening? I'm sure we are, but can we do 173 00:13:12,752 --> 00:13:16,232 a proper nice news release explaining how this come in 174 00:13:16,232 --> 00:13:19,512 with the project manager. Why? The timelines are changing. Just 175 00:13:19,512 --> 00:13:22,112 some it all up nicely. So the public fully understands 176 00:13:22,112 --> 00:13:25,997 why this is happening and what's happening. Certainly. We'll work 177 00:13:25,997 --> 00:13:28,957 with the clerk's department and communications to get that put 178 00:13:28,957 --> 00:13:31,397 together. Okay? And I don't know if that can be 179 00:13:31,397 --> 00:13:33,357 done today, but if this goes the whole weekend. There'll 180 00:13:33,357 --> 00:13:35,357 be rumors flying so quick, so if we could, that'd 181 00:13:35,357 --> 00:13:37,957 be. Great. And that's all thanks to staff. Thank you, 182 00:13:37,957 --> 00:13:45,451 Mr. Merry. Okay. I'm not seeing any more hands. One 183 00:13:45,451 --> 00:13:48,571 issue I did have a concern with, with respect to 184 00:13:48,571 --> 00:13:52,698 the ice is whether or not anything. Could be done 185 00:13:52,698 --> 00:13:55,338 on site to get it ready, to get it prepped. 186 00:13:56,904 --> 00:14:03,655 And pretty much. All the three bidders pretty much confirmed 187 00:14:03,655 --> 00:14:08,055 through their timelines that nothing, including any kind of demolition 188 00:14:08,055 --> 00:14:12,196 work or anything. Could take place until the spring of 189 00:14:12,196 --> 00:14:16,756 next year, so I'm fine with us opening up. The 190 00:14:16,756 --> 00:14:19,486 ice for that period of time. And I just wanted 191 00:14:19,486 --> 00:14:21,886 to make sure, of course, that everybody was crystal clear. 192 00:14:23,243 --> 00:14:27,683 Including eventually the user groups, that no substantial work could 193 00:14:27,683 --> 00:14:32,123 be done until spring of next year, including anything inside. 194 00:14:33,950 --> 00:14:37,990 Obviously there's some clearing out work that can be accomplished. 195 00:14:39,271 --> 00:14:42,631 That's just probably between the township and user groups, but 196 00:14:42,631 --> 00:14:45,751 we have received confirmations, so. If anybody gets any questions 197 00:14:45,751 --> 00:14:49,477 at all. About? Could you not do any work at 198 00:14:49,477 --> 00:14:54,884 all? It has been confirmed. That all three of these 199 00:14:54,884 --> 00:14:58,884 potential bidders for this confirmed that, no, the work would 200 00:14:58,884 --> 00:15:03,287 not commence. In any form. Until next spring. So that 201 00:15:03,287 --> 00:15:06,487 is why this report is essentially coming to one of 202 00:15:06,487 --> 00:15:08,647 the reasons this report is coming to us, and we're 203 00:15:08,647 --> 00:15:11,287 making that decision to open up the ice because once 204 00:15:11,287 --> 00:15:14,367 that's open and the public is allowed in, we sure 205 00:15:14,367 --> 00:15:17,972 as heck can't. Turn it into a construction zone. So, 206 00:15:17,972 --> 00:15:20,532 Councilor Campbell, you did have your hand up earlier. Your 207 00:15:20,532 --> 00:15:25,060 question was answered. Yes. My question was about the timeline 208 00:15:25,060 --> 00:15:28,500 for the desk and design community to meet with the 209 00:15:28,500 --> 00:15:31,420 project. Manager. I do want to thank staff, by the 210 00:15:31,420 --> 00:15:38,890 way, for prioritizing this. And helping it move forward. I 211 00:15:38,890 --> 00:15:40,610 was one of the people that I actually asked the 212 00:15:40,610 --> 00:15:44,615 CAO recently. If any work could be done in the 213 00:15:44,615 --> 00:15:48,815 venture, like ripping out the ice, concrete, ice pad, clearing. 214 00:15:48,815 --> 00:15:51,954 Out the storage area. And I guess I got an 215 00:15:51,954 --> 00:15:55,260 answer to that today as well. We'll try to be 216 00:15:55,260 --> 00:15:59,014 patient and go for next April. And it's exciting that 217 00:15:59,014 --> 00:16:04,505 it's moving forward. Okay, well, that's true. And once again, 218 00:16:04,505 --> 00:16:06,145 to any of the user groups, to any of the 219 00:16:06,145 --> 00:16:11,534 public. Things don't always move as fast as we want, 220 00:16:11,534 --> 00:16:16,697 and. We have different rules to follow as a township. 221 00:16:18,155 --> 00:16:21,266 Than. A private individual would have if they were doing 222 00:16:21,266 --> 00:16:24,126 some kind of similar work. We have a process that 223 00:16:24,126 --> 00:16:28,467 we must follow. And it does sometimes slow things down. 224 00:16:28,467 --> 00:16:30,627 So we went from virtually no hands up to a 225 00:16:30,627 --> 00:16:33,658 whole slew of them now. I'm going to first go 226 00:16:33,658 --> 00:16:37,920 to Councilor Bentill. Thank you. That's kind of you, considering 227 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:42,965 I was the left hand up. But I just want 228 00:16:42,965 --> 00:16:47,988 to say. About what councilor Campbell just said. I think 229 00:16:47,988 --> 00:16:50,628 it's terrific that we know they couldn't do any work 230 00:16:50,628 --> 00:16:53,108 next winter. It would be a mistake to have no 231 00:16:53,108 --> 00:16:55,908 ice two winters in a row. So the good news? 232 00:16:55,908 --> 00:16:59,725 Story here is that. There are three ice packs next 233 00:16:59,725 --> 00:17:01,485 year, and I think that we should kind of focus 234 00:17:01,485 --> 00:17:05,801 on the good news. And it's just simply reality that 235 00:17:05,801 --> 00:17:09,936 we can't begin until next spring. Due to winter prices 236 00:17:09,936 --> 00:17:12,096 and due to the amount of work that has to 237 00:17:12,096 --> 00:17:16,526 happen before. So these are just realities. And with this 238 00:17:16,526 --> 00:17:23,218 descripting committee and. The professionals were hiring. I really, really 239 00:17:23,218 --> 00:17:25,738 want to see a close relationship. I don't want to 240 00:17:25,738 --> 00:17:29,898 feel that the D scope committee isn't aware of what's 241 00:17:29,898 --> 00:17:32,538 going on. I think that there has to be open 242 00:17:32,538 --> 00:17:38,201 communication between the group and staff and these professionals. Just 243 00:17:38,201 --> 00:17:41,201 as much openness as we possibly can and coordination and 244 00:17:41,201 --> 00:17:47,170 working together, that would be. My hope for this. Thank 245 00:17:47,170 --> 00:17:53,918 you. Okay, next I've got Councilor doble. Thank you. Through 246 00:17:53,918 --> 00:17:59,461 you. I just want to thank staff for all the 247 00:17:59,461 --> 00:18:04,225 work they did on ice allocation. I definitely am disappointed 248 00:18:04,225 --> 00:18:08,490 that we're not getting this project started this year. And 249 00:18:08,490 --> 00:18:10,730 I think that our staff did a fantastic job in 250 00:18:10,730 --> 00:18:15,307 making sure that overall, everyone had. A fair shot at 251 00:18:15,307 --> 00:18:18,305 the ice that they wanted this year. But at the 252 00:18:18,305 --> 00:18:20,505 same time, I'm very grateful that if we're not going 253 00:18:20,505 --> 00:18:23,225 to be able to get this progene moving forward now. 254 00:18:23,225 --> 00:18:25,345 We might as well keep the ice open. Let everyone 255 00:18:25,345 --> 00:18:29,456 have their preferred ice times. So just looking forward to 256 00:18:29,456 --> 00:18:32,576 see this progress. Really exciting that we've got our project 257 00:18:32,576 --> 00:18:37,331 manager. Coming on board shortly. And I just look forward 258 00:18:37,331 --> 00:18:40,971 to hearing regular updates from the desk committee and staff. 259 00:18:42,885 --> 00:18:47,127 And seeing this project really move forward. That's it. Okay, 260 00:18:47,127 --> 00:18:53,569 Councilor Kenneven. Thank you, Mayor Schler, and thanks, Wayne, for 261 00:18:53,569 --> 00:18:59,009 this report. And I echo councilor Doble's. Comments around staff, 262 00:18:59,009 --> 00:19:02,689 juggling all the ice allocations. That was very well done. 263 00:19:04,935 --> 00:19:08,015 Wayne, I just wonder if. Because if you're talking spring 264 00:19:08,015 --> 00:19:12,817 of 2025. And the center of the Maple Syrup Festival 265 00:19:12,817 --> 00:19:17,144 is April 5 and 6th. And of course. We'll be 266 00:19:17,144 --> 00:19:20,699 meeting next month to start planning that. So as soon 267 00:19:20,699 --> 00:19:24,274 as we know. What kind of. I'm not sure what 268 00:19:24,274 --> 00:19:29,468 work starts with. But how much space we can or 269 00:19:29,468 --> 00:19:34,046 cannot. Have for the beginning of April. That would be 270 00:19:34,046 --> 00:19:38,086 appreciated sooner than later once things get projected out. On 271 00:19:38,086 --> 00:19:42,178 a schedule. Through the chair to Councilor Canavan. Once we've 272 00:19:42,178 --> 00:19:47,138 got the PM in place. We'll finalize the timelines in 273 00:19:47,138 --> 00:19:50,338 the submissions. There is a proposed timeline, so once we 274 00:19:50,338 --> 00:19:54,058 get through the descript, we'll get all of the timelines 275 00:19:54,058 --> 00:20:00,468 finalized, and then. We'll be able to communicate. With all 276 00:20:00,468 --> 00:20:03,068 of our user groups, including the Sunder Limit Maple Syrup 277 00:20:03,068 --> 00:20:10,522 Festival. So would you think that would be. When do 278 00:20:10,522 --> 00:20:13,322 you think that would happen? Would that be like summer, 279 00:20:13,322 --> 00:20:19,291 fall? It'll probably be in the summer once. We've had 280 00:20:19,291 --> 00:20:22,491 time to look at the plans. Go through. Finish the 281 00:20:22,491 --> 00:20:27,270 descope, come up. With a final set of plans. And 282 00:20:27,270 --> 00:20:29,390 then we can finalize some of the timelines. It's something 283 00:20:29,390 --> 00:20:34,333 that we'll. Take into consideration, though. Excellent. Thank you. Okay. 284 00:20:37,842 --> 00:20:42,555 I have regional council Jeff for seconds. Thank you, mayor. 285 00:20:42,555 --> 00:20:45,475 I did forget to talk about grant timelines, as we 286 00:20:45,475 --> 00:20:48,195 will be asked that. Question. Can we just get stopped? 287 00:20:48,195 --> 00:20:50,835 I know it is 2027. Can we just get stopped 288 00:20:50,835 --> 00:20:53,735 to. Briefly explain. When the grant has to be used 289 00:20:53,735 --> 00:20:56,855 and that, starting in 2025, still has lost the time. 290 00:20:56,855 --> 00:21:05,281 If we could just get that, please. It is in 291 00:21:05,281 --> 00:21:12,701 the report, but if staff want to address anything. March 292 00:21:12,701 --> 00:21:17,380 31. I just want the public to know that the 293 00:21:17,380 --> 00:21:19,820 construction time on this project, this is still a good 294 00:21:19,820 --> 00:21:22,540 envelope that we have no concerns that construction is going 295 00:21:22,540 --> 00:21:27,532 to push past two years. Through the chair to regional 296 00:21:27,532 --> 00:21:34,819 counselor job. We're pretty confident that. We'll maintain our timelines 297 00:21:34,819 --> 00:21:38,379 to ensure that we meet the requirements of the ISIP. 298 00:21:38,379 --> 00:21:42,419 Grant. All of the proponents that submitted were aware of 299 00:21:42,419 --> 00:21:45,499 the timeline for this to be completed and they've worked 300 00:21:45,499 --> 00:21:50,866 out their timelines based on that. Okay. The project has 301 00:21:50,866 --> 00:21:53,346 to be completed, Wayne, or start it before the deadline. 302 00:21:56,511 --> 00:21:59,831 It does have to be completed by that deadline. Okay? 303 00:21:59,831 --> 00:22:02,391 Which was always a twelve to 18 month. Timeline for 304 00:22:02,391 --> 00:22:04,591 this project, so that still gives us that the highest. 305 00:22:04,591 --> 00:22:10,582 Another additional six months. Okay, thanks. That's all. Okay, Councilor 306 00:22:10,582 --> 00:22:13,942 Campbell, thank you. And through you the other day, Michelle 307 00:22:13,942 --> 00:22:18,854 shared with me. The next steps for this project. Perhaps 308 00:22:18,854 --> 00:22:28,052 it would be interesting for everyone to hear that. Through 309 00:22:28,052 --> 00:22:31,092 the chair to councilor Campbell. I'll answer that on behalf 310 00:22:31,092 --> 00:22:38,265 of the CAo. So our next timelines are that. I'm 311 00:22:38,265 --> 00:22:40,425 just looking at the Gantt chart that. Was provided by 312 00:22:40,425 --> 00:22:45,341 the one proponent. We will start working in the next 313 00:22:45,341 --> 00:22:48,781 couple of weeks for them to assemble their team and 314 00:22:48,781 --> 00:22:53,968 meet. Go over the kickoff meeting for the project. We 315 00:22:53,968 --> 00:22:58,471 will go through a high level gap analysis. And the 316 00:22:58,471 --> 00:23:05,976 drawings. Some risk management and some new budgets. Prepared. And 317 00:23:05,976 --> 00:23:10,336 then we'll get into finalizing the details of the drawings 318 00:23:10,336 --> 00:23:14,856 with the D scope. Committee. And the timeline for that 319 00:23:14,856 --> 00:23:17,696 looks to be. Sorry, I'm just flipping through pages, too. 320 00:23:17,696 --> 00:23:21,888 Quickly here. Timeline on that looks to be. 321 00:23:30,139 --> 00:23:32,819 Mid August for all of that August to September for 322 00:23:32,819 --> 00:23:37,615 that work to be completed. Over the winter, they will 323 00:23:37,615 --> 00:23:42,872 be doing the building permit applications and reviews. And then 324 00:23:42,872 --> 00:23:45,112 moving forward with all of that work to be prepared. 325 00:23:46,888 --> 00:23:51,342 For. The general contractor and get that in place in 326 00:23:51,342 --> 00:23:56,459 time. For spring construction and destruction, I guess, as well. 327 00:23:58,044 --> 00:24:01,524 Thank you, Wayne. That kind of explains why there's another 328 00:24:01,524 --> 00:24:10,633 delay. And again. I'm just optimistic that we can get 329 00:24:10,633 --> 00:24:16,705 the project going. Is pretty exciting. Okay. And just to 330 00:24:16,705 --> 00:24:20,545 confirm that once the D scope committee has done their 331 00:24:20,545 --> 00:24:25,148 thing, then it will be coming to council. For basically. 332 00:24:27,258 --> 00:24:31,902 The final decision on any possible. D scope. In a 333 00:24:31,902 --> 00:24:36,662 final determinations on how some of it will be financed. 334 00:24:36,662 --> 00:24:39,542 We've had the primer on that, but at that meeting, 335 00:24:43,129 --> 00:24:46,828 We will make, hopefully the final decision. On how the 336 00:24:46,828 --> 00:24:52,539 unpaid balance will be handled by the township. See nothing 337 00:24:52,539 --> 00:24:54,979 else. Then I guess I'll call the vote. All those 338 00:24:54,979 --> 00:25:02,416 in favor? That is carried. Thank you very much. So 339 00:25:02,416 --> 00:25:11,285 we have no consideration for which. Notice was given. I'll 340 00:25:11,285 --> 00:25:15,165 go to the clerk deputy CAO for any public questions 341 00:25:15,165 --> 00:25:18,397 and or requests for clarification. Mr. Mayor, we have not 342 00:25:18,397 --> 00:25:23,686 received any. We have a confirmation bylaw. Can I get 343 00:25:23,686 --> 00:25:30,958 a mover and a second for that, please? Councilor Pettingill 344 00:25:30,958 --> 00:25:38,213 and councilor Canavan. All those in favor? Oppose. That's carried. 345 00:25:38,213 --> 00:25:43,133 Thank you. And finally, item 13 is adjournment. Can I. 346 00:25:43,133 --> 00:25:47,650 Get a mover in a second for that, please. Councilor 347 00:25:47,650 --> 00:25:54,033 Campbell. And councilor Pattingill. All those in favor? Okay. Thank 348 00:25:54,033 --> 00:25:57,033 you very much. Have a good weekend, everybody, and enjoy 349 00:25:57,033 --> 00:25:57,793 your Canada day.