1 00:00:00,299 --> 00:00:03,299 foreign 2 00:00:04,790 --> 00:00:08,080 [Music] 3 00:00:09,139 --> 00:00:17,400 thank you all for coming we will call to order the regular city council meeting 4 00:00:13,679 --> 00:00:20,320 of Monday July 24th we do the Pledge of Allegiance 5 00:00:18,539 --> 00:00:23,359 I apologize [Music] 6 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,500 thank you 7 00:00:38,180 --> 00:00:46,760 oh my God he's trying to bribe his way to have this meeting if anyone wants 8 00:00:44,219 --> 00:00:46,760 cucumbers 9 00:00:49,750 --> 00:00:52,969 [Applause] 10 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:03,379 do you have any corrections or deletions or anything to our agenda do not believe 11 00:01:01,020 --> 00:01:03,379 so 12 00:01:03,660 --> 00:01:12,299 approve is written I'll second that first and second all those in favor hi 13 00:01:10,380 --> 00:01:16,979 motion carries and we have no publication 14 00:01:14,700 --> 00:01:21,799 is there anybody in the audience that would like to talk about something that 15 00:01:18,540 --> 00:01:21,799 is not on the agenda 16 00:01:22,740 --> 00:01:26,299 you got to come up to the mic though 17 00:01:34,380 --> 00:01:42,240 hi my name is Kelly McConnell and I live at 615 Emory Street here in Tracy and I 18 00:01:40,020 --> 00:01:46,759 just would like to have the stop signs put back in town instead of yield signs 19 00:01:46,979 --> 00:01:54,299 that's it that's good because you're not the first person that said that so okay 20 00:01:51,180 --> 00:01:58,200 I have a it's instead of here excuse me 21 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:02,579 oh I the yield signs they there's a bunch of there used to be stop signs and 22 00:02:00,540 --> 00:02:06,799 now there's yield signs and how did they get replaced with yield 23 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,799 signs anyway 24 00:02:07,439 --> 00:02:12,800 okay Kyle do you want to touch on that how did they get replaced with yield 25 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:19,080 signs where are these at come on up here what 26 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:23,220 what are the intersections one intersection would be Sixth Street and 27 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:28,440 Emory Street it's coming right off of Highway 14 and then all the way down 6th 28 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:33,420 Street by the all the way down even by this uh Catholic Church the school there 29 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:38,180 those are the old signs three eight two projects 30 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:43,980 382 project I might have to get back to you on that 31 00:02:40,500 --> 00:02:48,239 one I don't know if I at each location I know that there were some um some of 32 00:02:46,379 --> 00:02:52,860 this the streets that are the numbered streets that were more of the through 33 00:02:49,739 --> 00:02:56,879 streets and didn't have you know I think a lot of the if I recall right the East 34 00:02:54,900 --> 00:03:02,340 and West streets had stops and the North and South will column North and South 35 00:02:59,879 --> 00:03:07,620 um had yields so I know that there was some adjustments there but it's so I'd 36 00:03:05,220 --> 00:03:12,239 have to look back at it exactly now they're all now it's the East and West 37 00:03:09,780 --> 00:03:17,940 are all yields when they used to be all stops so there's a standard that Kyle 38 00:03:14,940 --> 00:03:20,519 applied because there wasn't much the same 39 00:03:19,140 --> 00:03:23,459 you know they're really you know there's a stop signs in some places and yields 40 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:27,780 than the other so you know we we had went through at 41 00:03:26,099 --> 00:03:31,620 the time to kind of take a look at that and like I said at some of the crossing 42 00:03:29,640 --> 00:03:35,280 streets of stop signs and yields yield signs that the other more through 43 00:03:32,879 --> 00:03:38,879 streets but it's certainly something we could look at adjusting if it needs to 44 00:03:36,780 --> 00:03:43,260 go back I think there were certain parts of it where it was a through Street most 45 00:03:41,340 --> 00:03:47,280 of the way but then there was a stop and it just didn't totally make sense from 46 00:03:44,819 --> 00:03:51,420 that standpoint but I I'd have to look back at some of the notes too on each 47 00:03:49,500 --> 00:03:57,239 intersection so can you do that and get back then is there a reason why you feel 48 00:03:54,299 --> 00:04:01,440 the yield needs to go away to a stop it just because you're used to a stop well 49 00:03:59,340 --> 00:04:08,040 I've seen a lot of people just blow past yeah they even come to any type of stop 50 00:04:04,620 --> 00:04:12,180 and there are children riding bikes and not on the sidewalk or on the street and 51 00:04:10,140 --> 00:04:16,680 there's you know special needs kids in that area and it just is a huge concern 52 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:20,519 I yeah yeah 53 00:04:17,660 --> 00:04:24,900 wonder why you were requesting yeah especially the church too because 54 00:04:22,620 --> 00:04:28,919 there's nothing yeah they're a specific busy intersections that would make more 55 00:04:27,060 --> 00:04:34,800 sense to be a four-way stop we could look at that too just a stop would be 56 00:04:32,340 --> 00:04:39,600 I'd take that I mean that's something it's just that they come right in off of 57 00:04:36,900 --> 00:04:45,840 Highway 14. and there's there they've got some speed and then they just kind 58 00:04:42,060 --> 00:04:51,240 of go through that but okay thank you thank you thank you 59 00:04:49,020 --> 00:04:56,400 does that stuff go through Planning and Zoning isn't that where the initially 60 00:04:53,639 --> 00:05:01,380 the signage and all that goes through that no it's more of just Council on 61 00:04:59,280 --> 00:05:06,120 that it's not really a planning or zoning issue it's a traffic regulation 62 00:05:03,660 --> 00:05:10,979 issue so um they used to make recommendations to 63 00:05:08,340 --> 00:05:15,720 us they used to but according to city code that's not how the process should 64 00:05:13,199 --> 00:05:19,800 work usually just go to city council if it's zoning and land use you know that's 65 00:05:17,699 --> 00:05:24,120 different from I don't know Matt can maybe even touch on that but 66 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:30,259 um as far as uh the yield and stops you know it's all 67 00:05:26,340 --> 00:05:30,259 part of the project plans 68 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:37,080 I guess in the beginning there's some plans on what where they're stopped and 69 00:05:35,100 --> 00:05:42,360 where there's not but you know so the council approved that 70 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:46,139 you know indirectly I guess with proving the plans but 71 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:50,759 um it's not a big deal to change it if the council wants to go back in certain 72 00:05:48,300 --> 00:05:56,100 areas or in all areas what was there before I mean I guess I don't like when 73 00:05:53,100 --> 00:06:01,440 those fine detail things go through on a big 74 00:05:57,539 --> 00:06:05,460 construction plan because I'm sorry I guess I'll speak for myself but I don't 75 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:12,960 look through those big construction plans in that grade of detail to know so 76 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:16,620 there's a yield or a stop I guess I think those kinds of changes need to go 77 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:19,500 through I was thinking it was the Planning and Zoning because that's where 78 00:06:17,940 --> 00:06:27,000 it used to go because I know when they wanted some other signs put up for 79 00:06:24,060 --> 00:06:31,560 I don't know if it was the place to slow down with with you know children at play 80 00:06:29,759 --> 00:06:35,880 or something that used to go through Planning and Zoning if that's not what 81 00:06:33,900 --> 00:06:39,300 it does anymore that's fine but then I would want it brought to the council in 82 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:44,000 more detail if it's not going to go to the Planning and Zoning you know moving 83 00:06:41,639 --> 00:06:44,000 forward 84 00:06:44,180 --> 00:06:50,880 if it doesn't go back to the way it used to be or they're changing it and I 85 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:54,600 remember years ago there was a bad accident on one of those intersections 86 00:06:52,979 --> 00:06:59,280 in the area that you're talking about and 87 00:06:56,479 --> 00:07:04,020 the neighborhood was insistent on getting a stop sign versus a yield 88 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:07,080 they just felt that it was well I can tell you I live on one of the 89 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:11,340 corners of Emory and six that went from a stop 90 00:07:09,539 --> 00:07:15,840 to a guild I I like the stop sign especially with 91 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:20,160 the liquor store at the End of the Street people you know it used to be 92 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:26,960 food and fuel but people come driving down that street quite rapidly they did 93 00:07:24,660 --> 00:07:32,759 do a four-way stop there at one time that's not necessary they ended up 94 00:07:29,580 --> 00:07:35,580 removing the the stop signs off of 6th Street 95 00:07:33,479 --> 00:07:41,460 it's just a few at least get one direction to stop it helps the accidents 96 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:46,199 because at least one direction is slowing down is this something that we 97 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:50,580 should involve the police commission or the police department on picking or help 98 00:07:48,599 --> 00:07:55,759 choosing or yeah 99 00:07:51,620 --> 00:07:55,759 uh regulating this 100 00:07:55,860 --> 00:08:02,759 well you think it would be uniform if they had this the numbered streets all 101 00:08:00,900 --> 00:08:06,780 through streets and the other the cross ones like they used to be have stop 102 00:08:05,039 --> 00:08:11,819 signs on yeah but Morgan's not that way so it's 103 00:08:08,699 --> 00:08:15,259 the stop sign was on the numbered Street no it was on Emory Street 104 00:08:17,660 --> 00:08:25,620 it was on Roland down by the fight yeah Kyle's just trying to put a standard on 105 00:08:23,639 --> 00:08:29,879 everything to make it so it's not just here and there then you got green tone 106 00:08:27,180 --> 00:08:38,039 that has no stop signs so or yield signs just a wild west on this side be a good 107 00:08:33,839 --> 00:08:42,860 place to use some of them signs so yeah I understand trying to be 108 00:08:40,140 --> 00:08:47,880 consistent but at the same time neighborhoods aren't consistent so I 109 00:08:45,660 --> 00:08:52,920 think we have to look at individual circumstances 110 00:08:50,220 --> 00:08:56,880 totally understand that we can review that and yeah I apologize for not having 111 00:08:55,260 --> 00:09:01,560 some of that background I think some of these discussions might have predated my 112 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:05,339 involvement with the design of that a number of years back but I can take a 113 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:08,600 look back at some of our Notes too if that didn't go into planning 114 00:09:12,860 --> 00:09:19,800 Jan is and obviously it has I've only since I've been on in January we've only 115 00:09:17,940 --> 00:09:25,200 met once we they've said no business before us so 116 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:28,640 then we don't meet yeah we'd be happy to sit down and take 117 00:09:26,580 --> 00:09:28,640 one 118 00:09:28,980 --> 00:09:34,800 take a look thank you my name is Tyler twistel as you all know 119 00:09:33,300 --> 00:09:38,519 I just stood up to mention that the other day on my way to the liquor store 120 00:09:36,180 --> 00:09:44,399 to get the deposit there was a decently bad crash right on 6th and Emory 121 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:48,420 um the car was being towed away so I agree we should get some stop signs on 122 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,899 Emery time 123 00:09:52,860 --> 00:09:58,500 hello I'm here anyway so I figured I'd mention this I'm Sammy Jo Miller and I 124 00:09:56,820 --> 00:10:02,220 did summer camps with the kids at the park this year and I wanted to mention 125 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:06,600 that the women's restroom at the park needs a garbage can 126 00:10:04,620 --> 00:10:10,440 um because some of the younger girls were leaving their tampons and wrappers 127 00:10:08,519 --> 00:10:13,680 and things like that in the bathroom and there's no place for them to dispose of 128 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:17,399 them in the bathroom so they'd have to wrap them up and bring them outside and 129 00:10:15,839 --> 00:10:19,620 teenage girls I'm sure aren't going to want to do that in front of their 130 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:23,160 friends or other people at the park so if we could just get a garbage can in 131 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:28,640 the bathroom in for the girls I would I think that would be a good idea 132 00:10:25,339 --> 00:10:28,640 Central Park 133 00:10:29,940 --> 00:10:35,540 anybody else in the office like to talk about something that has not done the 134 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,540 agenda 135 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:46,920 my name is Janine van andreshi and I leave that in 340 4th Street East and 136 00:10:44,519 --> 00:10:49,800 I'm here to request um 137 00:10:47,579 --> 00:10:53,100 for with a request for our Workforce group 138 00:10:50,579 --> 00:11:01,740 that maybe one of them could be involved in the selection of the rfps 139 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:07,560 and I would probably go with Ken Witt because he has knowledge of that 140 00:11:04,380 --> 00:11:13,560 so I know that we are our Workforce group is going to be involved once one 141 00:11:09,959 --> 00:11:17,579 is selected but I was wondering if it would be possible I was just making 142 00:11:14,940 --> 00:11:21,839 requests of the city council if it would be possible for just one of us to be 143 00:11:19,860 --> 00:11:28,019 involved in the in the actual selection of the architect 144 00:11:25,140 --> 00:11:32,940 so it was our intent that the committee would pick narrative down 145 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:37,800 to three right and then that we would have one of you guys join them oh I 146 00:11:35,339 --> 00:11:42,540 didn't realize that okay well that I think that would really be 147 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:47,339 good if you could do that just because 148 00:11:44,459 --> 00:11:54,000 you know of the ideas that we have had over the last couple of years and 149 00:11:50,480 --> 00:12:00,839 we've kind of gone over some of the just in our minds plans for the building 150 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:05,300 and it would be helpful I think that was our intent okay well then I wouldn't 151 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:09,140 have even had to have thank you you're welcome 152 00:12:09,540 --> 00:12:19,560 anybody else in the audience like to anything to say I'm seeing none I'm 153 00:12:16,680 --> 00:12:22,680 gonna move right along the consent calendar 154 00:12:21,190 --> 00:12:27,600 [Music] I'll make a motion to approve the July 155 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:32,279 10th Council minute approved Municipal accounts payable and payroll without 156 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:39,959 breakthrough beverage approved Municipal accounts receivable 157 00:12:35,279 --> 00:12:46,079 approve the June 20th Park board minutes and approve resolution 158 00:12:42,380 --> 00:12:49,760 2023-66 approving the disbursements of allocation for 2023 159 00:12:52,019 --> 00:12:59,160 . first and second any further discussion 160 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:03,959 real call please whoever's doing that all right 161 00:13:02,279 --> 00:13:07,380 Dave Deeks aye and Corman 162 00:13:06,540 --> 00:13:13,860 aye Jan or bizu yes Seth Schmidt yes Tom 163 00:13:11,459 --> 00:13:17,519 Dobson yeah Jerry Jones 164 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:19,639 aye and George landite aye 165 00:13:25,980 --> 00:13:32,160 for breakthrough beverage second that first and second any 166 00:13:30,420 --> 00:13:38,579 discussion on that roll call please 167 00:13:34,740 --> 00:13:45,300 George landaid all right Gary schones hi Tom Dobson 168 00:13:40,380 --> 00:13:52,220 hi Seth Schmidt yes Jan arbisu yes Dave Teague 169 00:13:47,639 --> 00:13:52,220 good one and Pam Corman hi 170 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:03,440 so mayor council communication our first thing is the community center rfps 171 00:14:06,180 --> 00:14:08,720 thank you 172 00:14:09,500 --> 00:14:15,839 I know as soon as you're done with yourself over there 173 00:14:13,740 --> 00:14:22,139 so we received uh 10 total rfps for the community 174 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:27,720 center design um 175 00:14:23,339 --> 00:14:27,720 it was Jan George 176 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:36,779 Jeff and I that went through the numerous 177 00:14:33,060 --> 00:14:42,920 streams of paper of information um we did narrow it down 178 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,920 I'm gonna find the right page here but 179 00:14:51,660 --> 00:14:55,579 there we go so the 180 00:14:56,279 --> 00:15:04,260 the first one the highest points was bollock 181 00:15:00,899 --> 00:15:09,899 engineering the second one was isg and the third one was hey Dobbs 182 00:15:07,019 --> 00:15:14,360 they're the top three and I can go over all of them I don't know if you 183 00:15:11,519 --> 00:15:14,360 understood my 184 00:15:14,699 --> 00:15:17,779 spreadsheet at all 185 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:27,660 and we did kind of mentioned that we could maybe 186 00:15:23,820 --> 00:15:35,120 have added a fourth one Studio e in that it was so the fourth one was 187 00:15:30,060 --> 00:15:35,120 astr or atsr oh I 188 00:15:37,740 --> 00:15:42,620 yeah that would have been number five okay 189 00:15:44,279 --> 00:15:48,079 so what's the plan then there 190 00:15:48,139 --> 00:15:57,540 how we're gonna do this you mean once we do the three yeah so 191 00:15:54,060 --> 00:16:04,139 what I've suggested before is maybe we want to do an interview with these three 192 00:16:02,279 --> 00:16:09,600 um with the committee and if they want to add someone from the work group you 193 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:16,040 know however you want to do that you can really pick anyone I mean it's not like 194 00:16:11,820 --> 00:16:16,040 a like a little bitter type thing 195 00:16:16,199 --> 00:16:19,639 what the console wants for 196 00:16:19,740 --> 00:16:24,899 for design professional for it so um 197 00:16:23,279 --> 00:16:30,260 but it sounds like the work group does want some input on it so maybe that's 198 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,260 something you'd want to entertain 199 00:16:32,639 --> 00:16:35,600 ing 200 00:16:35,820 --> 00:16:43,800 so this is being brought to us to approve where do you want to go from 201 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:48,779 here so they narrowed it down to the one through ten so where do you want to go 202 00:16:45,839 --> 00:16:51,500 from here as far as selecting or not selecting or 203 00:16:51,540 --> 00:16:59,759 think the other thing we discussed in two was exactly where we were at 204 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:02,759 financially how is that any of that come back in I don't have all the information 205 00:17:01,259 --> 00:17:06,660 on that um I don't know Tyler do you you don't 206 00:17:05,220 --> 00:17:10,579 have all the pieces for that either I assume for the community center yeah 207 00:17:11,120 --> 00:17:22,439 oh you sent that one must have been um I saw about two hundred eight 208 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:27,120 thousand dollars that had been raised and then I don't remember the exact 209 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:30,299 number that we had set apart from the city 210 00:17:28,380 --> 00:17:34,919 do you remember it's a hundred something I think there's like 138 000 left from 211 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:38,820 what I recall from when Eric left but I'm not sure what that amount is right 212 00:17:36,900 --> 00:17:43,460 now so those are the numbers that I remember 213 00:17:40,039 --> 00:17:43,460 oh I'm sorry 214 00:17:43,500 --> 00:17:49,620 so um what I'd seen was 208 000 in 215 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:53,100 fundraising and a hundred and something thousand that 216 00:17:51,419 --> 00:17:57,840 the city had set apart but then we'd also heard from the southwest initiative 217 00:17:55,799 --> 00:18:02,400 foundation and they had items that weren't on my list and I'm wondering if 218 00:17:59,940 --> 00:18:04,860 I have items that aren't on their list so 219 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:10,080 um we'd have to get together with them to see you 220 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:16,500 what all the donations actually are um and then as far as expenses there 221 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:21,179 have been approximately eleven thousand dollars in expenses so far 222 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:23,580 and I don't remember exactly what they were all for 223 00:18:22,980 --> 00:18:30,660 um but part of it was the Tracy's Got 224 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:35,580 Talent another part I want to say I was like for an architect or engineer some 225 00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:40,940 sort of planning piece um but yeah approximately eleven 226 00:18:37,799 --> 00:18:40,940 thousand dollars in expenses 227 00:18:46,860 --> 00:18:53,520 that you had doesn't does that include the pledge 228 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:57,360 so that's all through Southwest the foundation isn't it 229 00:18:55,380 --> 00:19:00,960 yes I think for the most part um I think there was some other 230 00:18:59,039 --> 00:19:06,000 pledges I don't know if someone from the workforce may have that outside of 231 00:19:04,140 --> 00:19:10,799 the Southwest should have maybe donations so I don't 232 00:19:09,179 --> 00:19:16,140 know if that was filtered through a different organization or if it came 233 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:20,160 directly to us but so they don't show a balance until the money's in there so if 234 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:22,200 so like one of them was a five-year pledge 235 00:19:21,059 --> 00:19:26,100 where you're only going to get year one this 236 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:31,020 year and then it's gonna be five years before that whole pledge 237 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:35,160 comes back and I don't know all the details on every one of them I exam 238 00:19:32,940 --> 00:19:37,919 coming into this late so there was another one that was similar to that I 239 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:41,640 want to say it was Sanford Health 240 00:19:39,419 --> 00:19:47,760 that it was fifty thousand dollars like ten thousand each year for five years 241 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:53,760 was that right to like three years over three years or something 242 00:19:50,460 --> 00:20:00,299 well and we had Lewis Drug okay I mean that all being said yeah uh 243 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:06,600 we have a grant to help fund what we're trying to figure out yeah yeah 244 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:15,679 so there's a fifty thousand dollar grant for the design portion of this 245 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:15,679 so I see here you raided them yeah but 246 00:20:15,860 --> 00:20:24,900 I'm assuming part of it is the cost I mean it says your design cost and 247 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:29,340 everything yep I guess I don't feel comfortable I mean 248 00:20:27,179 --> 00:20:34,380 I guess I feel comfortable saying I'll Trust you guys for your top three 249 00:20:31,260 --> 00:20:39,360 interview them yeah but I don't feel comfortable approving something when I 250 00:20:36,360 --> 00:20:43,260 don't know if it's going to cost us 20 000 or a hundred and twenty thousand 251 00:20:41,100 --> 00:20:49,020 because I haven't seen that that was my next point the bids would be well over 252 00:20:46,140 --> 00:20:52,860 the fifty thousand and we figured that yeah there's none of them that are going 253 00:20:50,760 --> 00:21:00,240 to be less than well really that's an 80. the first two components of the bid 254 00:20:55,679 --> 00:21:06,000 won't right it's the when you go to let the bed for the actual build then they 255 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:12,000 get between six and ten percent or twelve percent of the total cost so that 256 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:15,900 puts you over the 50 000 but I think what was 257 00:21:13,559 --> 00:21:19,500 trying to get across was they was trying to figure out what this thing is going 258 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:24,480 to cost so they knew where to go fundraising or not go 259 00:21:21,539 --> 00:21:28,200 and until we get some idea what it's going to cost nobody knows where this 260 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:36,059 everybody's in limbo so the first two components of this RFP 261 00:21:33,179 --> 00:21:40,620 I think will be well under the 50 000. and will that get us what the 262 00:21:37,919 --> 00:21:44,640 approximate cost is if I I understood that Jeff crabby can help me or shame if 263 00:21:42,900 --> 00:21:49,380 I understood it right that would get us kind of a fairly close 264 00:21:47,419 --> 00:21:54,679 engineered guesstimate what it's going to cost am I right on that yes 265 00:21:52,020 --> 00:21:54,679 yes 266 00:21:55,020 --> 00:22:04,020 um I I think what George and I and I haven't met to look through this weave 267 00:22:05,100 --> 00:22:07,220 okay 268 00:22:10,580 --> 00:22:20,340 simultaneous we can't just go phase two and have 269 00:22:17,340 --> 00:22:25,559 a cost estimate when it when I dug into their submissions you in 270 00:22:23,700 --> 00:22:30,020 Greater detail and then talk machine about this 271 00:22:27,059 --> 00:22:30,020 it appears that 272 00:22:30,419 --> 00:22:38,220 a true cost estimate it will have to actually go through the 273 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:42,840 full phase three to get a real realistic bid 274 00:22:39,500 --> 00:22:45,320 and so and we're committing to this I believe we're committed 275 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,960 committing 276 00:22:49,500 --> 00:22:57,720 so for for the full cost of what they put out here for this RFP I mean that 277 00:22:54,659 --> 00:23:01,620 would make sense because but if they're not doing the building 278 00:22:59,580 --> 00:23:06,960 there's really no dollar to base their phase three off which would be the 279 00:23:03,780 --> 00:23:10,500 actual construction supervision portion you'd almost have to if you wanted to 280 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:15,840 nail it down you'd have to have your bids come in and then you'd know but 281 00:23:13,020 --> 00:23:19,140 they can give you I know they've done this in engineering projects for streets 282 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:24,539 and stuff they can give you an approximation yeah of what they think 283 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:30,539 the cost will be based on materials Etc yeah I believe the RFP also stated that 284 00:23:28,380 --> 00:23:37,740 it's contingent on funding the project too so if you get these 285 00:23:34,020 --> 00:23:42,360 you know if you get you know only to the the or through the design portion and 286 00:23:40,260 --> 00:23:46,740 cost estimation portion then you really you know say we can't come up 287 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:52,020 with you know 800 000 or 1.8 million or whatever it 288 00:23:49,679 --> 00:23:56,460 comes out at you know what you know at that point you could say oh 289 00:23:54,000 --> 00:24:01,320 we can't do this or we need to go raise more money or whatever it may be from 290 00:23:59,100 --> 00:24:05,520 that point but um we don't really really know what the 291 00:24:02,940 --> 00:24:08,700 cost is going to be until you do those first couple phases meet with the work 292 00:24:07,860 --> 00:24:13,320 group come up with an actual 293 00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:16,679 design of what they want what they're going to do based on what they're doing 294 00:24:15,179 --> 00:24:19,080 in the building the programming part of it 295 00:24:17,580 --> 00:24:22,799 and from there you know they can determine what what kind of kitchen it 296 00:24:21,179 --> 00:24:27,000 needs and um because just the kitchen alone is 297 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:31,919 gonna vary by a couple hundred thousand I mean it's 298 00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:37,080 well phase one was Community involvement where they would work directly with the 299 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:41,520 work group and uh console reps and and that sort of thing to 300 00:24:39,179 --> 00:24:45,080 get a sense of what are they designing for what activities Etc 301 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,200 yeah 302 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:55,880 I guess I'm still not coming as to what you're wanting from from us 303 00:24:54,080 --> 00:25:03,780 put on here for the the top three candidates and for 304 00:25:00,059 --> 00:25:06,780 the committee plus one other work um 305 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:11,820 the other well I don't want to say it because technically that work group 306 00:25:09,299 --> 00:25:15,539 includes the council you're not an own separate group so I'd hate to keep 307 00:25:13,500 --> 00:25:18,480 calling you the work group because we're part of that work group we have to be 308 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:26,640 one but to add in uh a non-counsel 309 00:25:23,340 --> 00:25:29,539 City employee on to that committee 310 00:25:30,030 --> 00:25:33,240 [Music] 311 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:43,260 yeah so when we met together with Shane and 312 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:46,530 Jeff benign and Jan to formulate these numbers for the grading results one of 313 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:51,779 the [Music] 314 00:25:48,659 --> 00:25:56,279 to sit back down once we have a full 315 00:25:53,580 --> 00:26:03,659 port on how much money has been actually raised how much cash we have and this 316 00:26:01,260 --> 00:26:08,640 seen with this with this Army to verify 317 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:13,300 where we want to go with this and to and engage with what we have 318 00:26:12,059 --> 00:26:18,179 right now if that come [Music] 319 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,360 that kind of funds raised before we begin 320 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:33,600 this first leg you know I'm looking at an 85 321 00:26:29,580 --> 00:26:33,600 000 a 76 625 322 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:41,100 or some of our those are two of the three 323 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:45,840 it's rather spendy if you go through all three phases the biggest part of course 324 00:26:43,140 --> 00:26:52,200 is the actual true design and and that's where it really jacks up 325 00:26:49,140 --> 00:26:58,440 the price the most of the pre-designed phases the community involvement in some 326 00:26:54,240 --> 00:27:04,799 preliminary ideas but that's why we had asked for a concrete definition this 327 00:27:02,159 --> 00:27:08,520 seems where Tyler you kind of got the feeling that maybe not everybody had all 328 00:27:07,020 --> 00:27:13,620 the information and I really hope that 329 00:27:11,220 --> 00:27:18,419 within a week we can get that all pulled together is that reasonable 330 00:27:15,539 --> 00:27:21,960 Shane do you think we can find out where it is 331 00:27:19,980 --> 00:27:24,500 I know that's what's been somewhat elusive 332 00:27:24,659 --> 00:27:32,340 because we're able to ask I mean like Southwest initiatives easy yeah I 333 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:36,779 was going to say it wasn't 30 years back as someone was on vacation 334 00:27:34,620 --> 00:27:40,440 what's that I thought there was some delay on getting a response because 335 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:44,580 someone was on vacation or yeah their response that's what exchange going off 336 00:27:42,059 --> 00:27:46,760 of right now is that yeah you want me to read that 337 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:59,640 this is from Jeff fetch who's been working with the uh with the foundation 338 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:04,200 which the the community center is a a just an offset of the of the the group 339 00:28:02,580 --> 00:28:06,840 that we had formed um I'm out next week but I can give you 340 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,380 a little Direction on finding information in the porthole if you click 341 00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:13,740 on the funds tabs that will show you the balances of all the funds the Tracy 342 00:28:12,059 --> 00:28:18,299 Community Center fund currently shows 206 343 00:28:15,140 --> 00:28:24,360 401.48 cents please note this includes pledges not received 344 00:28:20,820 --> 00:28:27,900 um so it is 20 000 or more less cash on hand there has been a pledge from Lewis 345 00:28:26,580 --> 00:28:33,720 family drug for twenty five thousand dollars over five years five thousand 346 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:37,919 dollars of that has been received um so so I think what we're looking for 347 00:28:36,419 --> 00:28:43,320 and what I'm hearing is is we need to get everybody involved including Val for 348 00:28:40,500 --> 00:28:46,980 sure and and and get some information with the the treasurer which would be 349 00:28:44,940 --> 00:28:50,880 Tony Peterson of the Tracy Erie foundation and then with Tyler with the 350 00:28:49,140 --> 00:28:54,600 three of them get a list of exactly what we have because we hear all the time you 351 00:28:53,460 --> 00:28:58,919 know this is what we've got we've got a 700 3 000 we've got 720 000 we don't 352 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:04,440 exactly know what that is or where it's at but I in my opinion it needs to be 353 00:29:01,620 --> 00:29:08,700 just divided into what we have in the southwest initiative foundation account 354 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:13,799 what we have in the Tracy account and what we have in pledges and then we can 355 00:29:10,980 --> 00:29:17,940 then we can go on from there so that's kind of what this this is telling me 356 00:29:15,659 --> 00:29:21,000 that was the vacation Jan that you're that I I told him that you told me was 357 00:29:19,679 --> 00:29:25,799 on vacation but then he got back to me right away so I'm confused then where 358 00:29:23,580 --> 00:29:28,740 does this dollar amount that go with on this thermometer where's that dollar 359 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:34,440 amount coming from I I think I can 360 00:29:31,980 --> 00:29:37,740 speak I I hate to speak for anybody but I think that is that would be funds like 361 00:29:36,779 --> 00:29:42,840 um um de blandin Grant that what was that 362 00:29:40,980 --> 00:29:46,500 that was a hundred thousand dollars that's not a part of this where is that 363 00:29:44,820 --> 00:29:51,840 money at I don't know I know we have received it we have 364 00:29:48,380 --> 00:29:56,880 yes right exactly exactly yeah and the in the hundred thousand 365 00:29:54,779 --> 00:30:01,200 from Midwest is over a three year period we haven't received that first one yet 366 00:29:59,220 --> 00:30:04,440 let alone the second and the third so that's a piece of it that's what we in 367 00:30:03,059 --> 00:30:08,580 my opinion we need to put all those together in lines about okay what do we 368 00:30:06,899 --> 00:30:11,899 got and then you can give you a true total I'd like brand 369 00:30:12,899 --> 00:30:20,760 as to when it would have to be spent easy easy or just so that kind of helps 370 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:24,059 us with a timeline too is that if we don't do something by this time we're 371 00:30:22,140 --> 00:30:27,480 going to lose this you're right there's more information with that too Jerry 372 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,820 there's more information on the Blanding Grant and what we can do with it whether 373 00:30:28,919 --> 00:30:33,600 it's this project or another 374 00:30:32,039 --> 00:30:38,580 you know okay so that would hopefully spell out 375 00:30:36,659 --> 00:30:43,279 where we're at financially a little clear 376 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:48,120 but I guess I'm still confused when we ordered to move forward to get the the 377 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:54,659 rfps the reason we did it is because we said 378 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:59,880 we need to know how much the final thing is going to be and now you guys that saw 379 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:03,930 the rfps you're saying it's going to be the full cost of these rfps 380 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:07,919 foreign [Music] 381 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:13,799 what's the final cut what's going to be the cost to get that building built 382 00:31:11,940 --> 00:31:18,600 no you're just talking the planning portion yeah to get the guesstimate down 383 00:31:16,559 --> 00:31:24,320 that includes everything though that includes electrical I mean everything 384 00:31:21,899 --> 00:31:29,820 you know like the example you used or somebody used as far as the 385 00:31:27,179 --> 00:31:34,559 street projects right so let's say on average about 15 000 for that portion 386 00:31:31,799 --> 00:31:37,880 that on average for the preliminary stage one and two yeah 387 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:43,559 somewhere less than that that's where these get really kind of confusing is 388 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,679 because some of them will put it into a phase one some of them put more into a 389 00:31:45,059 --> 00:31:50,100 phase two and then in the end they usually give a percentage each one of 390 00:31:48,179 --> 00:31:53,760 these gives a percentage of what the in the project kind of the project that we 391 00:31:52,020 --> 00:31:59,399 gave them because they needed a number also and we use that 825 to 875. that's 392 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:02,640 the number we use we didn't say that this was going to be the project number 393 00:32:00,659 --> 00:32:06,419 we told them this is the this is what we you can use as your percentages because 394 00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:10,380 if one uses seven and a half percent of 875 the next one's eight point two five 395 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:14,340 percent obviously that one's going to be higher so that's the way this isn't an 396 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:18,240 exact science of looking through these rfps because each one of the 10 have 397 00:32:16,919 --> 00:32:21,779 different ideas of what they're going to do 398 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:27,059 okay but you guys did the leg work of at least narrowing it down or raiding them 399 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:32,460 where we could at least say okay we want to look at the top three or whatever I 400 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:37,320 guess I'm feeling okay kind of like my hands are either 401 00:32:35,580 --> 00:32:41,100 tight or they're just floundering because I I don't feel comfortable 402 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:47,340 making a motion on anything that I don't know what the dollars are Jerry that's a 403 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:52,200 good observation and I think we too uh well a thick stack of papers we went 404 00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:57,240 through we tried to be as objective as possible in ranking everybody and 405 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:59,880 sometimes it was very hard to compare apples to oranges 406 00:32:59,159 --> 00:33:06,240 um so some of it was based on say anywhere 407 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:11,340 from six to 12 percent of the final cost of the project well gee whiz 408 00:33:09,059 --> 00:33:16,679 we don't even know how much that's going to be so that's why it was very 409 00:33:12,899 --> 00:33:21,480 difficult to get a good handle on what and that's why we wanted to know what do 410 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:24,360 we think we really have nailed down for contributions 411 00:33:22,740 --> 00:33:28,860 and I'm going to throw in one other thing and maybe as relevant or not my 412 00:33:26,700 --> 00:33:32,399 brother is a my brother-in-law is a project manager for an architectural 413 00:33:30,539 --> 00:33:37,260 firm in South Dakota and he said right now and I'm sure that 414 00:33:35,100 --> 00:33:42,299 includes cost of land acquisition which we already have 415 00:33:39,419 --> 00:33:49,799 but he said you we're telling our potential clients to figure on average 416 00:33:45,019 --> 00:33:56,519 500 a square foot you take 2 800 square feet times 500 and I unless my math was 417 00:33:52,860 --> 00:34:04,019 wrong it came out over a million dollars and that's that's probably including 418 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:09,060 cost of the land which is given right so we could take that out of the picture 419 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:16,220 but that's when I started to worry so where are we at with fundraising versus 420 00:34:11,940 --> 00:34:21,740 the reality and do we spend 85 000 on 421 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:28,800 getting this phase one two and three done and 422 00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:34,020 then maybe we can't come up I don't know which comes first the chicken or the egg 423 00:34:31,020 --> 00:34:38,280 type thing it's kind of like how are we going to figure this out and not waste 424 00:34:36,419 --> 00:34:43,040 people's money because this is a lot of money just to do the preliminaries and 425 00:34:40,619 --> 00:34:43,040 the design 426 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:50,399 so I guess the Dilemma we're in right now 427 00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:52,639 to I guess get this going in the right direction 428 00:34:53,399 --> 00:35:02,220 so everyone's all right with the three going to a committee for interviews that 429 00:34:59,820 --> 00:35:04,460 go into a committee I think yeah 430 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:11,480 the same people that look through all the and adding someone from the work 431 00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:11,480 group 432 00:35:12,300 --> 00:35:19,440 it's the non-countable part of the work group yeah the trouble we're going to 433 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:24,780 hit though hope we're still going to be in the same 434 00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:28,500 dilemma so to speak unless we move to the step three but you can ask during 435 00:35:27,359 --> 00:35:32,339 the interview or what their guess is straight out like 436 00:35:30,660 --> 00:35:35,579 what's what's this going to cost what's this going to cost and what's this going 437 00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:39,540 to cost and then we can bring that back to the council so 438 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:44,640 if the council's all right with going with a 439 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:50,940 what a four or five person committee to interview these these three prospects 440 00:35:48,060 --> 00:35:55,740 then we can go from there as far as costs and 441 00:35:53,940 --> 00:36:00,180 your ultimately gonna have to sign a contract and that'll detail the exact 442 00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:04,619 cost at that moment so you really have a hotel that time before you're obligated 443 00:36:02,099 --> 00:36:09,060 and committed to paying that amount it's just a process to get that amount 444 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:13,500 and in that process will everyone's numbers be the same to that point you 445 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:18,300 don't know that but you always can decline to sign that contract because 446 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:22,079 you haven't committed yourself it's not like a low-cost bidding this is 447 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,200 Professional Services you don't have to go with the lowest bid so if it gets to 448 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,020 a point where you don't have the funds you can just 449 00:36:26,940 --> 00:36:32,520 say we're not going to sign the contract as a point here we go you're just 450 00:36:30,780 --> 00:36:36,720 wasting your time at that point but you're not committing resources 451 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:43,920 financially so so is everybody in agreeance with the 452 00:36:40,140 --> 00:36:50,960 taking the top three here and I'm okay with that Pam but I would hope that in 453 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:59,640 this process we could get some more information on what the square foot cost 454 00:36:55,980 --> 00:37:05,760 is for some commercial projects that are going on now or that have just been bid 455 00:37:02,820 --> 00:37:12,780 for next year because this whole thing everything comes down to affordability 456 00:37:08,780 --> 00:37:18,060 and then we've got to get more detailed information on the money we have in hand 457 00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:24,119 what's in pledges and so forth so we know exactly where we're at and whether 458 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:28,380 this is feasible it's nice to see that a piece of the information before we meet 459 00:37:25,980 --> 00:37:33,780 with anybody so in our minds as 460 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:38,460 companies what they are thinking the costs are per square 461 00:37:35,820 --> 00:37:40,859 foot I can ask them I don't know if they'll give us a straight answer 462 00:37:39,900 --> 00:37:45,240 because they don't know what they're building and that's the problem you can 463 00:37:43,079 --> 00:37:51,240 get the Cadillac or you can get the strip down version the work truck 464 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:55,859 I mean it's you can build a building with you know a million options with 465 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:58,500 automatic lighting and all this stuff and then you can get the one where you 466 00:37:56,940 --> 00:38:02,700 have to flip a switch we're not going Cadillac I'll tell you 467 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:06,780 that well that's right but you know if you ask these people for their current 468 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:11,940 projects for foot price you don't know what that owner of that 469 00:38:10,140 --> 00:38:16,800 construction projects including in their project so it's 470 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:20,339 it's not really black and white and that's that's a problem that's why 471 00:38:18,900 --> 00:38:23,280 we kind of need to go through this process it's not going to cost us 472 00:38:21,660 --> 00:38:29,400 anything to have them come here and interview them nope or could we even do 473 00:38:26,339 --> 00:38:33,660 a zoom you could if it would be more convenient you know what though well I 474 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:37,619 think that they should come here because they should be bringing some plans and 475 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:42,720 like showing you and having some my details of like what they're offering us 476 00:38:39,839 --> 00:38:47,339 for this money I think what sets that is to get an approximation of per square 477 00:38:45,359 --> 00:38:52,440 foot on projects that are already current for them to get somewhat of a 478 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:56,579 handle but you can't do that he just told you that'd be like you can if you 479 00:38:54,780 --> 00:39:01,140 go through the Cadillac process or the the more moderate version but you can 480 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:06,380 have them you know if they're willing to show pictures or whatever then you can 481 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,380 kind of see what they're doing 482 00:39:06,619 --> 00:39:12,480 we're not looking at a Cadillac and I don't think they're going to tell us the 483 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:16,619 price of the Cadillac because it's going to throw them out to the bid 484 00:39:14,460 --> 00:39:21,720 I mean if they're gonna give us a quote of 800 per square foot because they're 485 00:39:19,740 --> 00:39:26,640 going to give us the price of a Cadillac whether they're not going to get the bed 486 00:39:23,460 --> 00:39:32,220 or the approval of the rfps so I don't think a business is going to be that 487 00:39:28,380 --> 00:39:37,619 stupid to give us a outrageously High cost at this point in time when you're 488 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:42,780 setting this up Shane then I'd like to defer my position on this committee to 489 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:49,200 Tom yeah first off I'm gonna be out of town 490 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:54,119 for a bit here and I'm crazy busy so I know Tom isn't haha 491 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:58,140 but if that's all right with the council I would like to defer or anybody else 492 00:39:56,220 --> 00:40:04,440 want to step up I don't care but he's the one that kind of helped me get my 493 00:40:00,839 --> 00:40:07,380 head wrapped around this stuff and I got to tell you I was uncomfortable 494 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,540 doing it because I've never done it before 495 00:40:08,339 --> 00:40:13,820 so I mean Tom looked at the bids yeah 496 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:22,400 he's okay with it are you okay with that Tom 497 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:33,240 Jerry you were talking about being uncomfortable about much each of these 498 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:37,859 were charging and uh it might be helpful for Shane to explain kind of this rating 499 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:44,780 system because boss was one of four parts of how we 500 00:40:43,260 --> 00:40:52,460 created this experience and schedule and like kind s 501 00:40:50,339 --> 00:40:58,619 and whatever was all part of it there was one firm that was a smaller 502 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:04,260 firm and fairly local from Glenwood that was 503 00:41:01,859 --> 00:41:10,800 the actual lowest cost for all three phases 504 00:41:07,980 --> 00:41:15,780 and I guess I would I would like to at least throw out that 505 00:41:12,839 --> 00:41:20,660 we invited them I know that they did not they were scored I think the fifth yes 506 00:41:23,820 --> 00:41:31,320 and that was 20 points and so that made a pretty big difference 507 00:41:29,460 --> 00:41:36,060 um I just I guess I would like to see what a small firm you know bollocks 508 00:41:33,900 --> 00:41:40,800 pretty sized that is pretty good size I mean they certainly have the experience 509 00:41:38,220 --> 00:41:47,160 but I'm wondering if it will be just a small little fish in a great big pond on 510 00:41:44,220 --> 00:41:53,240 our little project if it's not maybe something we should consider is 511 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:59,880 a small group but an option I like that idea well I've got two 512 00:41:56,099 --> 00:42:03,960 concerns with that idea one is does it put us in uh 513 00:42:01,500 --> 00:42:09,480 awkward situation when we go through this exercise and now we bump someone 514 00:42:07,380 --> 00:42:15,200 above someone else is that other company going to say well why didn't you let me 515 00:42:11,460 --> 00:42:21,720 come and do it in person presentation plus if this is a small company if they 516 00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:26,760 didn't include a schedule what other things did they not include 517 00:42:24,660 --> 00:42:31,020 that maybe they won't end up the cheapest because they didn't include 518 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:35,520 everything that they should have you know I just I think when we go through 519 00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:40,320 an exercise of rating when you go away from it 520 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:44,400 I just don't know if the fairness goes away with it can you pick and choose 521 00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:48,240 yeah if that's the case then we would probably interview five because they 522 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:52,500 were fifth well then why don't we just interview 523 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:58,319 all attend I mean if we're going to go down that rabbit hole it's like 524 00:42:55,500 --> 00:43:02,400 well we picked out we we said in the beginning we were going to pick three 525 00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:06,440 so those were the top three that you guys picked that's what we interviewed 526 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,060 I mean that's what we said from the beginning 527 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,420 I agree 528 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:21,420 the one thought I concern I have at that time is 529 00:43:19,380 --> 00:43:24,839 because I thought when we did that that night remember we threw up one or two 530 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:28,760 other ones because they didn't include something in their bid 531 00:43:26,700 --> 00:43:28,760 en 532 00:43:32,839 --> 00:43:42,079 I mean usually if it's not a complete thing you throw it out 533 00:43:37,319 --> 00:43:42,079 no matter which aspect it is 534 00:43:50,530 --> 00:43:53,729 [Music] 535 00:43:58,980 --> 00:44:05,220 an option to the party that had the lowest cost for 536 00:44:02,700 --> 00:44:13,319 what we're looking their total price was 16. 537 00:44:08,300 --> 00:44:19,640 total price was 73 675. which is significantly below 538 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,640 the next ones 539 00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:23,900 for 1400 540 00:44:37,740 --> 00:44:46,740 just an idea I'm fine with the top three I think we still need to get some really 541 00:44:43,740 --> 00:44:52,619 quality estimates and sit back down with the workforce group and have a good 542 00:44:49,140 --> 00:44:58,619 heart to heart of where we really are um pledges are good but if they're over 543 00:44:54,960 --> 00:45:03,380 a five-year period we don't have all of what we need to start moving dirt day 544 00:45:01,140 --> 00:45:03,380 one 545 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:18,359 so um 546 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:24,420 well I'd say we go with the top three not three and then for the non-council 547 00:45:21,180 --> 00:45:27,020 part of the work group they wanted Kenwood 548 00:45:27,180 --> 00:45:33,000 so it's going to be Tom 549 00:45:31,079 --> 00:45:39,140 Jan Jeff Jeff 550 00:45:34,460 --> 00:45:39,140 myself and Ken thank you 551 00:45:41,460 --> 00:45:46,500 thank you and you'll have a recommendation for the full council at 552 00:45:44,940 --> 00:45:52,200 what date then the next council meeting or hopefully 553 00:45:49,980 --> 00:45:55,980 depends on how fast you can line up if you can zoom it that'll make it easier 554 00:45:53,819 --> 00:46:00,420 yeah I seriously don't think you get 555 00:45:58,380 --> 00:46:04,859 the full effect that he's in something like that do you 556 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:09,359 does anybody else right now I said I don't feel like you get the full effect 557 00:46:06,900 --> 00:46:13,740 if you zoom it I understand I understand what you're saying I mean it's not like 558 00:46:11,819 --> 00:46:18,780 it's just like they're not but they need to have a presentation and I just don't 559 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:22,020 that's my feeling is if you do it by Zoom I don't think you're going to get 560 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:26,640 the full effect that's just my opinion 561 00:46:24,540 --> 00:46:31,859 if they want the job they can drive here to present it to us right 562 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:34,920 I say we leave it up to you as the committee you get a lot of pushback from 563 00:46:33,900 --> 00:46:40,319 all of them you know I don't think you will I mean I 564 00:46:38,220 --> 00:46:46,800 wouldn't think so because it's not a small job no 565 00:46:44,099 --> 00:46:50,040 the soul but I don't want to sit here and micromanage the work group you know 566 00:46:48,540 --> 00:46:53,819 if you sit there and get a lot of pushback 567 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:57,020 you know then you guys make the decision how you're going to move forward 568 00:46:57,300 --> 00:47:02,700 this is their very busy season but they're in the middle of if they're 569 00:47:01,079 --> 00:47:06,060 managing other projects that they've already yeah but honey they got 570 00:47:04,380 --> 00:47:11,940 different people who design things versus manage it yeah I understand 571 00:47:08,460 --> 00:47:15,420 there's very few of them firms did the total thing 572 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:19,440 this company did this and this they work with 573 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:23,940 this other outfit and they do this and there I don't know if there was any if I 574 00:47:21,900 --> 00:47:27,480 remember that did the whole thing start to finish 575 00:47:24,900 --> 00:47:31,680 you guys decided okay so yeah let's just go with that the top three you guys 576 00:47:29,819 --> 00:47:34,920 decide if you want to do it Zoom or not do it Zoom 577 00:47:33,060 --> 00:47:39,540 and we'll go from there you need direction from us other than 578 00:47:36,900 --> 00:47:44,339 this is telling you that discussion I needed so we know where to 579 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:49,260 go now so okay okay next 580 00:47:47,460 --> 00:47:52,020 we've got a handicap parking sign request 581 00:47:50,460 --> 00:47:56,579 from Scott Johnson 582 00:47:54,119 --> 00:48:00,619 in front of 169 and 3rd Street which is wheels and Hills appliance store 583 00:47:59,819 --> 00:48:05,280 um up to the console what they want to do 584 00:48:03,300 --> 00:48:10,280 it's a city street so they want to put a handicap sign there 585 00:48:07,619 --> 00:48:15,720 would it be like the first parking spot like there by the library be the first 586 00:48:14,099 --> 00:48:21,000 or the second one there I mean because they have it in the middle of 587 00:48:18,900 --> 00:48:23,359 multiple parking spots isn't that kind of odd 588 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:29,520 so my thing is is like when when I park on that street I never park in that one 589 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:33,060 right by the library because I feel like people 590 00:48:30,420 --> 00:48:37,140 use that like frequently and I don't want to be there for five hours and 591 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:42,560 that's the only reason I don't park in front of that particular one 592 00:48:39,780 --> 00:48:49,319 so then what's your recommendation more sense going on this street on this 593 00:48:45,839 --> 00:48:54,060 side too far away over there no you can maybe you need to be right before do you 594 00:48:52,260 --> 00:48:58,859 mind if I chime in on that she used to have one um on the corner on 595 00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:02,880 the corner here and the reason for that is because that's where the cutout is on 596 00:49:00,780 --> 00:49:06,900 the curb so that if someone's coming up with a scooter or a wheelchair 597 00:49:05,460 --> 00:49:11,400 um you know they can get onto the sidewalk easily 598 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:14,640 um I I would like to see one too we have customers 599 00:49:12,599 --> 00:49:16,560 frequently bring it up um 600 00:49:15,359 --> 00:49:20,280 and you know I appreciate that that Pam 601 00:49:18,540 --> 00:49:25,140 tries not to park in front of the library for five hours but a lot of 602 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:29,700 other people do so I would be all in favor of putting the spot there too 603 00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:34,680 and yours the side here either either spot either 604 00:49:33,060 --> 00:49:39,000 like in front of the dance studio there or on Morgan Street I think either would 605 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:43,339 be a good choice I think our customers would benefit from 606 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,339 it also 607 00:49:49,079 --> 00:49:52,700 I would say more um 608 00:49:52,940 --> 00:50:00,960 Morgan here where it was before right up at the 609 00:49:58,380 --> 00:50:03,500 corner there the closest spot to the stop sign 610 00:50:07,140 --> 00:50:17,280 that emotion well much discussion only thing that I have to say about that 611 00:50:15,359 --> 00:50:22,260 is that if there's one there on the corner 612 00:50:19,319 --> 00:50:26,760 then I would be then I would be for five hours on 613 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:34,440 Friday and and if somebody's values you to that spot you're still stuck 614 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:37,800 yeah it's not a private parking no no it's not a private 615 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:43,800 you know so no matter where it's at she might not get first dibs on it yeah 616 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:47,960 unless she comes out six in the morning you can just leave the your car parked 617 00:50:45,839 --> 00:50:47,960 there 618 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,260 [Music] 619 00:50:51,660 --> 00:50:58,980 roll one place or the other whatever 620 00:50:56,220 --> 00:51:04,380 are there any on Third Street currently any handicap spots anywhere no no I 621 00:51:02,339 --> 00:51:11,520 don't think so around the corner by the post office yeah I know that's there 622 00:51:07,740 --> 00:51:15,180 there's one in front of um plaid moose 623 00:51:13,140 --> 00:51:20,760 by that side door that's on the side street on Morgan yeah it's on Morgan and 624 00:51:18,599 --> 00:51:24,920 there's a little one in front of the vmc here or 625 00:51:25,740 --> 00:51:28,880 I don't think that's it 626 00:51:30,660 --> 00:51:38,160 I suppose either it doesn't I mean if it's on 627 00:51:35,339 --> 00:51:42,740 Morgan here is on Third Street the first spot on either one because it really 628 00:51:40,500 --> 00:51:42,740 matter 629 00:51:42,839 --> 00:51:50,099 I built the Third you know what with my vote is for third 630 00:51:47,819 --> 00:51:53,760 all right we'll make a motion we put one on Third Street 631 00:51:52,079 --> 00:51:59,520 the first spotter do you want to go down in front of wheels and heels 632 00:51:57,180 --> 00:52:04,380 maybe the dance studio I mean you don't have to go in front of 633 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:08,880 yeah if we go to the dance studio uh because they really don't get active 634 00:52:06,180 --> 00:52:12,540 till later in the day they always park in the back yeah I just want to be 635 00:52:10,980 --> 00:52:16,680 careful that we're not sitting here putting them in front of certain 636 00:52:14,220 --> 00:52:20,400 businesses just because yeah we're setting a precedent so we have to think 637 00:52:18,420 --> 00:52:24,020 about that if we put it right in front of your business so now another business 638 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:29,700 person needs needs a handicap spot 639 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:35,040 so that they want one in front of their business versus at the corners or 640 00:52:32,460 --> 00:52:38,640 whatever I just want to consider that when we're doing this because it's going 641 00:52:36,599 --> 00:52:42,180 to set a precedence okay first of all first of all it's not in front of my 642 00:52:40,859 --> 00:52:45,420 business and the reason that I thought it would 643 00:52:44,099 --> 00:52:50,040 be in front of the dance studio is because that way the parking spot 644 00:52:47,339 --> 00:52:52,920 closest to the library is available for people to come in and drop their books 645 00:52:51,839 --> 00:52:56,280 off and leave that's the only reason I didn't want 646 00:52:54,420 --> 00:53:03,599 that there you know what I mean so when people get 647 00:52:59,819 --> 00:53:08,400 out of your vehicles you would get out of the passenger side right to the 648 00:53:06,180 --> 00:53:16,140 sidewalk other people that are driving are going to be getting out onto the 649 00:53:11,940 --> 00:53:20,700 street that have a handicap sticker and now we're going to be asking them to 650 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:26,220 either walk to an intersection a couple spots away or try to walk in between 651 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:30,780 cars if there's already a car park there I mean 652 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:34,380 that's a good point I mean I'm not trying to bring this out by any means 653 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:38,359 but I think there's other things we have to look at because 654 00:53:36,180 --> 00:53:43,140 yours is really nope I mean the way you get out of your 655 00:53:40,619 --> 00:53:47,400 vehicle you would get right out onto the sidewalk but a lot of people that are 656 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:50,160 driving and getting out of the driver's side 657 00:53:48,180 --> 00:53:55,920 they're having to go on the street yeah I'd say do it in front of the library 658 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:59,240 on the corner I'm wandering as as is there a need for two 659 00:53:57,780 --> 00:54:05,940 man because I mean Val said something that 660 00:54:02,579 --> 00:54:11,160 you know Library patrons have asked for it 661 00:54:07,319 --> 00:54:16,500 um so I guess I'd be in favor of or would support one on Morgan and one on 662 00:54:14,220 --> 00:54:20,420 third one on each Corner up yeah 663 00:54:21,780 --> 00:54:26,819 did you have something that you were going to say Val no I am I was going to 664 00:54:25,500 --> 00:54:31,920 ask me a question I was going to ask her a question but we kind of answered it 665 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:36,780 the thing is if you have two and I I don't this is way harder than I 666 00:54:35,099 --> 00:54:43,440 ever thought it would be if you have two then if there's no one with a handicap 667 00:54:40,319 --> 00:54:47,040 sticker then there's two I know and I was thinking the same thing because we 668 00:54:45,059 --> 00:54:51,380 lost so much parking the way they redid that and probably only better with one 669 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:56,240 because we did lose parking spots downtown 670 00:54:57,780 --> 00:55:00,920 can you get them back 671 00:55:02,700 --> 00:55:10,500 all right you got a motion 672 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:14,400 we have a second did you ever finish your motion this was 673 00:55:12,839 --> 00:55:17,520 the Motions for um 674 00:55:16,020 --> 00:55:22,920 third on the corner of third or Morgan 675 00:55:21,240 --> 00:55:25,520 I don't care which one yeah 676 00:55:35,180 --> 00:55:43,680 I guess I changed it to Third Street the Third Street 677 00:55:40,079 --> 00:55:48,000 uh in front of the library on the corner oh at the bump out so south of the bump 678 00:55:46,260 --> 00:55:53,520 out on Third Street in front of the library 679 00:55:50,099 --> 00:55:57,559 and that has the wheelchair egress thing too doesn't it from the sidewalk yeah 680 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,040 I'll have a second 681 00:56:05,700 --> 00:56:12,740 okay so I can do the first and second any other 682 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,740 comments 683 00:56:13,140 --> 00:56:19,079 okay [Music] 684 00:56:16,700 --> 00:56:22,520 no street light that you wouldn't be able to get your door open again 685 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:30,020 the bump outs on the intersections anyway I'm like we'll make this decision 686 00:56:27,059 --> 00:56:34,520 and then you'll come out I can't so yeah Dave Teague no 687 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,460 yes and 688 00:56:40,619 --> 00:56:48,200 street right in front of the library is that what we're talking now or exact 689 00:56:44,819 --> 00:56:48,200 placement yep 690 00:56:48,300 --> 00:56:56,040 uh assessment yes uh Tom Dobson yes 691 00:56:57,720 --> 00:57:01,700 Jerry Jones yes 692 00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:06,200 George landite yes 693 00:57:07,859 --> 00:57:11,300 and Pam you're abstaining 694 00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:15,079 okay 695 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,579 motion carries 696 00:57:19,619 --> 00:57:27,960 so 7c we have downtown benches Planeteers garbage cans Etc Seth was 697 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:33,839 going to cover this topic okay um I asked that this be put on the 698 00:57:30,119 --> 00:57:39,059 agenda for discussion after hearing last week 699 00:57:35,540 --> 00:57:48,900 visited with Val a little bit and she'd been working on a Grant application 700 00:57:42,260 --> 00:57:57,599 to help pay for some park benches and or benches and garbage cans Planters and so 701 00:57:53,099 --> 00:58:03,359 forth for the downtown area and over a call last fall 702 00:58:00,559 --> 00:58:09,000 when we approved our budget we did put in a small amount 703 00:58:05,220 --> 00:58:16,020 into the budget for this purpose okay but now our our grant hopes have fallen 704 00:58:13,380 --> 00:58:23,180 through and I just want to know should we ask staff to 705 00:58:19,380 --> 00:58:31,440 um present a plan to us which would be scaled back 706 00:58:26,059 --> 00:58:35,700 without any Grant funds uh to present to us for the to the council for us to 707 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:39,380 consider what what do we want to do 708 00:58:39,780 --> 00:58:47,180 I personally think it's important that we do move forward with kind of 709 00:58:45,180 --> 00:58:54,000 finishing our downtown so I I am supportive of that concept but 710 00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:58,920 Seth you said somebody was put last year for this current year yes you 711 00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:06,420 know what a month that is it was a thousand wasn't it or 15 I think it was 712 00:59:01,559 --> 00:59:11,420 15 10 or 15 000. I'm thinking six I don't know where I'm pulling it okay 713 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:18,839 well you'll have to look at well my 15 000 but a lot of times what's 714 00:59:16,079 --> 00:59:23,819 put in the budget is based on revenue from a grant so it might be 15 000 in 715 00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:28,200 the budget in expenses but then it's fifteen thousand in revenue from the 716 00:59:25,260 --> 00:59:32,520 grant well we put that in as a match to match okay I was just going to say I 717 00:59:29,819 --> 00:59:37,799 don't think we did that when we did well that or Seth would it make sense I 718 00:59:34,859 --> 00:59:41,160 know it asking for like the the Part Group 719 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:45,420 since they're kind of involved and kind of have have ideas of what stuff just on 720 00:59:43,799 --> 00:59:49,020 the work that was done at Central Park would it make sense for I know you're 721 00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:54,119 part of that group would it make sense for you guys just to take a look and go 722 00:59:50,760 --> 01:00:01,260 well if we did this this and this you know we need six benches 12 flower 723 00:59:57,420 --> 01:00:06,900 pots and four garbage cans to finish what we think would look good we could I 724 01:00:04,799 --> 01:00:12,119 think our committee would be interested in that 725 01:00:09,059 --> 01:00:16,079 that that's just a thought just to have well and I know there is discussion as 726 01:00:14,099 --> 01:00:20,579 to if it's permanent or if it's removable for snow removal 727 01:00:18,599 --> 01:00:25,680 because when you start getting benches and Planters and everything 728 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:28,740 I don't know how with the guys with their snow removal it would be a snow 729 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:32,339 bank yeah 730 01:00:30,420 --> 01:00:37,859 I would say it's almost well we can't expect them to yeah hand remove snow 731 01:00:35,099 --> 01:00:42,420 around all of those and that's why is it stuff that can be removed in the fall 732 01:00:39,660 --> 01:00:47,880 yeah I was that's what I was thinking yes 733 01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:51,660 I thought about that too is like I don't know if you should I don't know 734 01:00:49,980 --> 01:00:56,640 if we need to consider any more flower pots on everybody we 735 01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:59,880 already have flower pots downtown you know if you can do more benches and 736 01:00:58,559 --> 01:01:03,720 whatever else well that like or if you put but if you 737 01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:08,940 put like on the corner you put just like a big pot of some type I know I mean and 738 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:12,960 it looks good by the bench but then we got like we're paying for all these 739 01:01:10,380 --> 01:01:16,619 other Planters downtown well maybe that changes too okay 740 01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:29,880 the littering and I think seating would be the next priority 741 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:35,099 for however far the budget goes and I appreciate so much the businesses that 742 01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:40,380 do have pots already downstairs or downtown that doesn't unify the area 743 01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:46,559 those would you know from my perspective be the kind of priority because 744 01:01:43,619 --> 01:01:49,460 garbage cans to put your garbage in would be helpful 745 01:01:49,980 --> 01:01:58,380 so we'll leave that up to you guys is that the consensus of the council 746 01:01:55,859 --> 01:02:03,119 you'd like the park committee to delve into this a little bit then 747 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:08,339 I I just brought that up because I know you guys worked on the the Central Park 748 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:12,660 so you guys kind of have an idea of well it's kind of like what doesn't 749 01:02:10,260 --> 01:02:15,900 uniformish kind of yeah and then yeah like you said you could uniform compared 750 01:02:15,180 --> 01:02:20,819 to and Shane you attend those meetings 751 01:02:17,819 --> 01:02:26,940 correct so you would be there to look out for your guys with uh snow removal 752 01:02:24,900 --> 01:02:31,079 because garbage we're not going to want to remove it in the fall 753 01:02:29,220 --> 01:02:34,740 on the garbage cans we have six containers down there now that are 754 01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:40,859 permanently mounted they're they're your own and we need more than that then 755 01:02:37,980 --> 01:02:44,460 Southwest dump Seas right now we maintain them but they they get 756 01:02:43,079 --> 01:02:48,960 dumped every week by Southwest Sanitation so that would just need to be 757 01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:53,460 looked at and considered if we need more garbage or if we need to Spruce them up 758 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:59,040 or what we need to do to you have six where are they kinda there's one by 759 01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,220 um 760 01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:10,859 see there's one by the library one by the old Bank 761 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:15,420 um one in front of the vmc one by the Plaid moose 762 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:20,460 um I think there's one there's still one by the old Bakery on the old one by the 763 01:03:18,119 --> 01:03:23,520 alley there by the old Bakery how many more do we need 764 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:28,859 I mean to spend money on garbage containers to save that money since we 765 01:03:25,980 --> 01:03:32,700 got six well that's yeah then they can go with more benches yeah you guys can 766 01:03:30,839 --> 01:03:35,520 figure that out and honestly if you go with something 767 01:03:33,780 --> 01:03:38,579 these garbage cans have been here for quite a while 768 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:42,299 and every time the wind blows we're chasing the lids down the street so 769 01:03:40,319 --> 01:03:46,980 there might be something better out there that's why there's like one or two 770 01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:49,920 missing Lids now because I most of the time people bring them back but 771 01:03:48,180 --> 01:03:53,339 sometimes they don't a couple of them are in Westbrook right now an hour ago 772 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:56,460 so you don't know where they go that's why I'd like you to be part of it and 773 01:03:54,900 --> 01:04:00,599 since you do go to those meetings because you know that stuff and yeah if 774 01:03:59,339 --> 01:04:04,740 you think the park group would look at that I would that would be my suggestion 775 01:04:03,420 --> 01:04:11,119 just to yeah we can't do that oh Tyler look at 776 01:04:07,619 --> 01:04:11,119 the funds perfect 777 01:04:12,020 --> 01:04:21,000 okay I had one more thing for this section I just want to remind people out 778 01:04:19,020 --> 01:04:26,460 there in TV land that it's National Night Out on August 1st 779 01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:32,700 there's a free will donation or donation free real donation for the meal that 780 01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:36,540 they have and it starts at five or six I can't remember 781 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:40,859 five starts at five so it's a great it's a great fun time 782 01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:45,420 for a family to come out and enjoy the park and 783 01:04:43,140 --> 01:04:49,099 do you want to touch base on what they're all doing 784 01:04:46,859 --> 01:04:56,359 Jason or to be down here no for the oh in your report no okay 785 01:04:52,619 --> 01:04:56,359 well Jason will touch by on that later 786 01:04:58,220 --> 01:05:05,540 what a way to get yourself first Jason he's always been first 787 01:05:05,660 --> 01:05:09,980 all right um 788 01:05:10,799 --> 01:05:17,160 if you have any questions on the calls this month I'll I'll Advance those 789 01:05:15,119 --> 01:05:22,440 um I did list out the public nuisance ordinance update for everybody to kind 790 01:05:20,220 --> 01:05:26,400 of let them know where we're at um 791 01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:31,500 did put out a push this last week to try to get a few properties in better shape 792 01:05:29,099 --> 01:05:33,559 before boxcar days um 793 01:05:33,900 --> 01:05:42,859 still no word on anything going on with the 2004 Squad order 794 01:05:39,359 --> 01:05:42,859 um I have been working on 795 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:52,859 a very short term placement holding cell for loose animals until we find their 796 01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:57,900 owners we'll continue to get that moving this week 797 01:05:54,299 --> 01:06:02,460 um we did have a small kennel that was donated to us it's not like a real 798 01:06:00,900 --> 01:06:09,420 strong one but it is a kennel with a door and we'll put a a phone to a like 799 01:06:06,839 --> 01:06:13,619 an igloo type shelter that can be attached to that too so 800 01:06:12,059 --> 01:06:17,760 um then we'll have shelter at the point where would we locate that please we're 801 01:06:15,299 --> 01:06:21,059 located back by the city shop so on city property it wouldn't be 802 01:06:19,619 --> 01:06:25,200 something that we would keep a dog more than 803 01:06:22,260 --> 01:06:30,599 hopefully more than 12 hours so I think there'll be much shade 804 01:06:27,059 --> 01:06:30,599 yes yeah 805 01:06:30,780 --> 01:06:38,599 um a couple things that aren't on the list 806 01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:45,780 uh Narcan was according to or with a new legislative update all officers have to 807 01:06:41,460 --> 01:06:51,000 be issued Narcan it's per officer not per Squad and that's been done also 808 01:06:48,839 --> 01:06:54,780 another thing that's recently on the horizon is well not on the horizon Shane 809 01:06:53,099 --> 01:06:59,880 and I've been discussing the federal government has decided that we no longer 810 01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:03,119 qualify to have two Humvee Motor Vehicles even though that one was 811 01:07:02,460 --> 01:07:08,220 um don't uh granted to us as a parts 812 01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:16,400 vehicle and so they want the parts vehicle back the problem is is we have 813 01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:24,960 to ship it to their base in Nebraska so and we can take whatever parts 814 01:07:20,220 --> 01:07:31,440 yes but it has to be complete as in um frame certain things to make it a 815 01:07:29,099 --> 01:07:35,400 complete vehicle have to be there so like we can take the ignition switches 816 01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:39,900 off and which this thing's already been parted out to the point where the only 817 01:07:37,260 --> 01:07:44,119 thing left on it is tires basically or engine parts 818 01:07:41,220 --> 01:07:50,400 um so it's it's clumbersome to move it's been sitting 819 01:07:47,099 --> 01:07:53,480 out in the weeds over the line ponds for multiple years 820 01:07:53,520 --> 01:08:04,799 was there a penalty if we don't deliver it if we say it's not drivable it's not 821 01:08:00,359 --> 01:08:11,180 it's cost prohibited for us to have to deliver it back so this came up over a 822 01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:17,100 year ago and I've been stalling and contacting like Amy Klobuchar and 823 01:08:14,940 --> 01:08:22,259 House Representatives to say this is a burden on our city budget this is 824 01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:25,100 this vehicle has absolutely no purpose to the federal government 825 01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:32,759 and they all answered you right quick they did we'll look into it and get back 826 01:08:30,239 --> 01:08:36,600 to you I'm still waiting so um it's it's been a long process but I 827 01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:40,020 think we've got to narrowed down to where we're going to share shipping with 828 01:08:38,460 --> 01:08:45,540 Nobles County here in the next couple weeks to help lessen the cost because 829 01:08:42,299 --> 01:08:53,699 they have one they have to return there were three other vehicles that 830 01:08:49,199 --> 01:08:58,020 were from like Douglas County and um there are two other counties up north 831 01:08:55,739 --> 01:09:01,739 and I was going to be the fourth to get on the truck but there wasn't room that 832 01:09:00,060 --> 01:09:06,660 would have split the cost four ways instead of two what's the reasoning that 833 01:09:04,980 --> 01:09:10,859 I want these things back I have no idea 834 01:09:09,060 --> 01:09:14,460 they're going to turn them into scrap I know I mean they're just going to grind 835 01:09:12,179 --> 01:09:19,219 them into pieces so um 836 01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:23,880 it's been a pain to deal with so but that's coming up and it will be an 837 01:09:21,660 --> 01:09:27,679 expense to us I'm hoping it's going to be less than a thousand dollars so 838 01:09:30,060 --> 01:09:37,460 yeah so um make sure you get whatever parts that 839 01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:41,479 are left on there off of it so we still have parts 840 01:09:40,380 --> 01:09:44,460 yeah [Applause] 841 01:09:42,839 --> 01:09:49,380 um other than that National Night Out is coming up next Tuesday 842 01:09:46,739 --> 01:09:53,460 um should be a good time there's um 843 01:09:49,980 --> 01:09:58,080 multiple entities that are helping out I know the Royal group is going to have 844 01:09:56,400 --> 01:10:05,160 some stuff for kids to do the fire department will be there again as usual 845 01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:08,580 um the I think we were heard something about some face painting for the kids 846 01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:15,120 going on um there's going to be some other games 847 01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:18,420 for them to participate in not to mention the entertainment for everybody 848 01:10:16,860 --> 01:10:23,219 in the food so you have the lineup for the dunking 849 01:10:20,699 --> 01:10:28,980 booth that would be nice to get out there so far you're all night no no no I 850 01:10:26,219 --> 01:10:34,800 I can't cause my back I serious I I can't the last time I did 851 01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:39,380 that it yeah no I 852 01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:45,420 can't remember what the schedule is so just curious because sometimes that gets 853 01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:51,620 some people to come out we'll make we'll make sure it gets uh 854 01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:57,659 promoted so and I believe Medallion Hunt is going to begin too for 855 01:10:54,960 --> 01:11:02,400 valuable characters is Tara in it see that's why the medallion for National 856 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:05,480 Night Out the clues will get started here shortly 857 01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,860 so 858 01:11:11,940 --> 01:11:16,860 more exciting stuff for National light out 859 01:11:15,540 --> 01:11:21,780 it's great so any questions 860 01:11:19,380 --> 01:11:25,260 it's not 100 degrees I do have a question for you 861 01:11:23,340 --> 01:11:29,400 did you ever um find out anything about the vehicles 862 01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:33,239 that are parked on Forester East and the other one because now I hear there's 863 01:11:30,659 --> 01:11:37,440 something else added to that so 864 01:11:34,500 --> 01:11:40,440 Forth Street East is um 865 01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:45,780 turned into a very busy road because of Center Street not being 866 01:11:43,260 --> 01:11:50,159 accessible and traffic not being able to cross Center Street and everybody from 867 01:11:48,179 --> 01:11:55,679 west of Center Street having to go up to Highway 14 to use only for Street East 868 01:11:53,340 --> 01:12:00,480 instead of using using Union Street and State Street so you have three times the 869 01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:02,900 traffic on 4th Street East currently happening 870 01:12:02,159 --> 01:12:08,460 um I discussed your concerns with people 871 01:12:06,780 --> 01:12:13,140 talking about parking on both sides of the street with a few 872 01:12:10,100 --> 01:12:17,520 residents there and they said that it's they're purposely legally parking their 873 01:12:15,780 --> 01:12:22,380 stuff in front of their house to slow traffic down because people are flying 874 01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:27,360 up and down Forester East and it's happening a lot and then I talked to 875 01:12:25,440 --> 01:12:31,620 some residents some Forest Street East that were complaining about the traffic 876 01:12:29,239 --> 01:12:36,960 also and we're happy their neighbors were parking things so that people had 877 01:12:34,020 --> 01:12:40,679 to slow down and then I talked to a couple others that said they they just 878 01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:46,140 really wish the road construction project would hurry up and get completed 879 01:12:43,380 --> 01:12:52,440 so the traffic would diminish so I get that but that's kind of a hazard the 880 01:12:49,140 --> 01:12:57,239 people have to slow down no oh it gets too narrow and I asked 881 01:12:55,440 --> 01:13:00,179 get myself in trouble here but there's a pontoon and then there's a big work 882 01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:05,040 truck and now there's a camper behind that and 883 01:13:02,460 --> 01:13:10,739 there's just room for one vehicle to go through kids on bikes and trikes 884 01:13:07,440 --> 01:13:14,340 scooting back and forth in and out and I get it if they had the whole at 885 01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:18,420 least a little more of the street would be 886 01:13:16,140 --> 01:13:23,340 less dangerous or chance to see kids coming out 887 01:13:20,460 --> 01:13:27,000 and and to me many years ago you did an ordinance that 888 01:13:25,440 --> 01:13:31,140 you can't do that so we're just allowing people to do it 889 01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:34,860 because they think that's we're going to slow traffic down by doing it well 890 01:13:32,820 --> 01:13:38,159 that's that's it you guys this job to slow traffic down and I know you're busy 891 01:13:36,659 --> 01:13:44,040 I'm not trying to give you more to do don't misunderstand me but it's not a 892 01:13:41,340 --> 01:13:48,659 Citizens job to park something there to slow somebody down 893 01:13:45,420 --> 01:13:52,980 I get that our ordinance does say that they can only park on the street in one 894 01:13:50,460 --> 01:13:57,140 spot for 24 hours but they are legally parked in front of 895 01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:57,140 their houses 896 01:13:57,480 --> 01:14:05,820 there is no it isn't like Third Street or one side of the street has no parking 897 01:14:04,020 --> 01:14:09,920 that street is designed for parking on both sides of the street and they are 898 01:14:07,140 --> 01:14:09,920 legally parked 899 01:14:10,020 --> 01:14:16,199 in their vehicles closed a little I'm not talking Vehicles well they're it's 900 01:14:13,980 --> 01:14:21,719 the campers the pontoons anything is supposed to only be there for 24 hours 901 01:14:18,239 --> 01:14:28,100 right trailers anything right am I checking every 24 hours to 902 01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:28,100 see if it moved no I'm sorry I'm not 903 01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:35,760 well I know you drive by quite yeah I see that 904 01:14:33,780 --> 01:14:40,760 so we do Patrol trying to keep traffic down yes are you checking or your other 905 01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:46,500 fellas that work with you it shouldn't be too hard to keep track I 906 01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:52,800 wouldn't think but I I see a young lad I think it was anyway it's 907 01:14:50,219 --> 01:14:56,280 hard to tell on a tricycle going down the middle of the street because you 908 01:14:54,360 --> 01:15:01,199 didn't want to go in and out of stuff and then I see these cars coming from 909 01:14:59,100 --> 01:15:04,440 the swimming pool or whatever and it seems like they're always in a 910 01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:11,840 hurry and to me it it was worrisome is that 911 01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:11,840 little person going to make it 912 01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:20,460 he did I'll gladly report but I don't know I just don't understand 913 01:15:18,199 --> 01:15:24,020 the reasoning I'm going to park this here this little traffic down put a 914 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:30,560 speed bump out then anything is better than blocking site 915 01:15:27,719 --> 01:15:30,560 for other vehicles 916 01:15:31,020 --> 01:15:40,640 and I did see you following some young folk in a golf cart one night on that 917 01:15:37,020 --> 01:15:40,640 street we had a discussion 918 01:15:41,580 --> 01:15:44,420 thank you 919 01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:51,620 they weren't 16 right I didn't think so 920 01:15:51,900 --> 01:15:58,920 so there's really nothing that can be done as far as 921 01:15:55,739 --> 01:16:06,920 you know if it's Vehicles they don't block the vision as much as a larger 922 01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:13,500 being a camper a mobile home whatever that those type of 923 01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:19,260 vehicles can be requested to not park there I know it's just requests because 924 01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:25,340 it's legal form to do it but I think I see that as probably the biggest safety 925 01:16:21,900 --> 01:16:30,780 challenge because you can't see with those larger 926 01:16:27,780 --> 01:16:36,239 things versus a car I agree with the safety issue I mean to me that's very 927 01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:41,940 important if a young child who is trying to navigate that street ends up getting 928 01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:47,179 hit because people can't see them well enough I 929 01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:47,179 a life is a life 930 01:16:50,100 --> 01:17:00,900 well I think the public in general it's not just 4th Street East but 931 01:16:56,880 --> 01:17:09,540 um should just keep in mind slow down I mean uh Third Street I see 932 01:17:05,699 --> 01:17:16,320 some people moving awfully fast on that and we do have little kids going to the 933 01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:20,000 pool so just the public you know be responsible and slow down 934 01:17:21,440 --> 01:17:24,660 [Music] 935 01:17:24,719 --> 01:17:32,480 anybody else have anything for Jason good job Jason thank you thanks 936 01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:37,580 dad do you want to go 937 01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:46,860 okay I don't have anything to add to my report for you but I do want to 938 01:17:44,820 --> 01:17:51,000 um touch on something that's not Library related but you are currently sitting in 939 01:17:49,380 --> 01:17:56,580 officially Tracy's second National Historic 940 01:17:53,699 --> 01:18:02,340 register National register of historic places building I received word this 941 01:17:58,980 --> 01:18:09,600 morning that our city hall and Armory buildings are officially on the register 942 01:18:04,860 --> 01:18:15,140 so yeah so that opens up some um some avenues for us to 943 01:18:12,060 --> 01:18:20,640 seek some funding I did submit the pre-application for the Historical 944 01:18:17,219 --> 01:18:25,440 Society Grant on Friday and that will be for the conditions assessment that we I 945 01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:30,900 believe we suggest we selected isg to do that project so 946 01:18:30,300 --> 01:18:34,920 um I'll just be waiting on feedback on that 947 01:18:33,480 --> 01:18:39,659 and then I'll have to update it and say that we're officially on the list and 948 01:18:37,260 --> 01:18:44,460 not just eligible so um yeah some kind of uh plaque or 949 01:18:42,239 --> 01:18:47,460 something I don't know I don't know and um 950 01:18:45,900 --> 01:18:51,540 and I take a little while for us to be on the 951 01:18:49,739 --> 01:18:53,580 website but I do have you know an official email 952 01:18:52,860 --> 01:18:58,380 um so yeah so that was exciting news today 953 01:18:56,640 --> 01:19:01,800 for a Monday um 954 01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:08,760 anyone have any questions for me on anything else or that that's fine too 955 01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:11,760 thank you Anya grant writing excellent I'm fun seeing all the kids over at the 956 01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:16,520 library it's been a it's been a fun summer yeah 957 01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:26,840 anybody else have anything for Val good job okay thank you 958 01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:26,840 Tyler do you want to go 959 01:19:29,159 --> 01:19:34,679 um well you guys have my second quarter Financial update I won't go through the 960 01:19:33,659 --> 01:19:39,360 whole thing um just wanted to mention uh that you 961 01:19:36,659 --> 01:19:44,699 guys the city council has six thousand dollars for donations budgeted and so 962 01:19:42,780 --> 01:19:49,080 far none of that's been used um there's 165 dollars there in services 963 01:19:46,860 --> 01:19:54,239 and charges but that was for travel expenses 964 01:19:50,520 --> 01:20:00,000 and also um it was high in the area of buildings 965 01:19:58,679 --> 01:20:05,820 and plant um like small items and that was because 966 01:20:02,699 --> 01:20:10,260 of the downtown internet and that was fully Grant funded by the Eda Grant so 967 01:20:08,159 --> 01:20:14,719 almost have to do a budget amendment there to adjust for that seventeen 968 01:20:12,480 --> 01:20:19,260 thousand dollars so yeah I just wanted to keep it brief 969 01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:22,980 but if anyone has any questions about any of the items 970 01:20:20,699 --> 01:20:27,900 let me know but the 6000 was the what we approved 971 01:20:25,500 --> 01:20:32,760 earlier tonight right for the wheels the night out and the Southwest Niche 972 01:20:30,179 --> 01:20:37,679 initiative Foundation right um yes that is correct 973 01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:40,920 the total only came to five thousand okay that didn't happen yep the budget I 974 01:20:39,659 --> 01:20:46,199 forgot because it was in that whole group oh yep correct the total is only 5 975 01:20:44,460 --> 01:20:50,699 000. that's correct we were budgeted for six uh city council normally in the past 976 01:20:49,020 --> 01:20:53,580 is always given five and 977 01:20:52,380 --> 01:21:00,060 um I think what you guys did tonight just approves us being able to spend it 978 01:20:56,940 --> 01:21:03,360 if they request it it's how I understood it 979 01:21:00,900 --> 01:21:09,239 the request was for five thousand yep it's perfect make sure that that's 980 01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:12,840 updated the total says six thousand on here but 981 01:21:11,219 --> 01:21:18,000 it's only five thousand for these three items on uh 982 01:21:15,659 --> 01:21:22,560 2020 366. so we would then have the ability to 983 01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:28,820 fund an extra one thousand dollar project or if the opportunity came along 984 01:21:25,199 --> 01:21:32,960 because it's in the budget correct or we could just keep it 985 01:21:34,980 --> 01:21:37,820 any other questions 986 01:21:39,300 --> 01:21:44,300 thanks Tyler Tamara do you want to go 987 01:21:50,820 --> 01:21:52,940 um 988 01:21:53,940 --> 01:21:57,500 that microphone close 989 01:21:58,580 --> 01:22:08,219 because she doesn't have a voice you got it all up so we um we're a 990 01:22:06,300 --> 01:22:12,000 little over her budget and we did a little over our budget for 991 01:22:10,380 --> 01:22:18,900 um June um and we are over our budget for the 992 01:22:16,020 --> 01:22:23,880 um cash flow so that's an awesome thing um Fourth of 993 01:22:21,300 --> 01:22:30,300 July was good um see we did um we had our Aloha night 994 01:22:28,679 --> 01:22:35,219 it um we probably did 50 60 people Jeff you 995 01:22:33,719 --> 01:22:41,159 think we have 50 60 people for Aloha night yep 996 01:22:39,480 --> 01:22:45,360 um down from last year probably about half because of all the other stuff that 997 01:22:44,100 --> 01:22:48,320 was going on in the area 998 01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:55,440 um otherwise we're just kind of plugging along so 999 01:22:52,199 --> 01:22:58,280 anybody has any questions or comments 1000 01:22:59,159 --> 01:23:02,480 ordering some warm honey 1001 01:23:07,020 --> 01:23:14,520 always selling aren't you always thanks Cameron 1002 01:23:12,060 --> 01:23:19,140 Jeff where are you 1003 01:23:17,159 --> 01:23:23,219 a couple things that were at the top of my report just wanted to to bring it to 1004 01:23:21,239 --> 01:23:26,280 the attention of the council um did anybody have any questions on the email 1005 01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:32,460 that that Shane sent out dealing with the 1006 01:23:29,100 --> 01:23:37,260 Orchard Lanes taxes or the lack of paid taxes over the past four years we 1007 01:23:34,500 --> 01:23:41,820 approved that earlier didn't we to pay the back taxes plus this just did we 1008 01:23:40,440 --> 01:23:45,480 didn't know if there was any if there was any questions that went along with 1009 01:23:43,140 --> 01:23:48,719 it I mean it was based on about Revenue brought in 1010 01:23:46,500 --> 01:23:52,080 and so I'm it's it's being taken care of I don't know honestly don't know where 1011 01:23:50,580 --> 01:23:55,679 the oversight came from I I couldn't tell you it doesn't really matter where 1012 01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:59,100 the oversight came from the money was going to be paid for out of the uh 1013 01:23:57,659 --> 01:24:02,460 out of the housing fund which would be the correct place that that would come 1014 01:24:00,300 --> 01:24:06,719 out of there's no questions with that 1015 01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:12,780 um the industrial park potential project that we have with isg right now 1016 01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:17,280 um so we were budgeted this year for uh um just a little less than twenty 1017 01:24:14,340 --> 01:24:21,840 thousand dollars for the project that could be going on with the industrial 1018 01:24:19,860 --> 01:24:27,120 park which would be to the which would be to the north of the ball 1019 01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:32,940 fields the softball fields or of the the um the Minnesota state whatever the the 1020 01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:36,960 the crews that come out of there um so ISD has been working on something 1021 01:24:34,500 --> 01:24:40,980 with us they are doing up to five phases I believe is what it is and for that the 1022 01:24:39,540 --> 01:24:44,520 cost and I just wanted to talk a little bit about I know you know about that but 1023 01:24:43,380 --> 01:24:50,400 I just want to talk a little bit about where that money or what the potential 1024 01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:55,020 project consists of so I found out um a couple days ago or late last week 1025 01:24:53,100 --> 01:24:58,739 that we are allotted for that arpa money of uh it's it's two hundred thousand 1026 01:24:57,420 --> 01:25:02,820 dollars right at two hundred thousand dollars the arbor money was is the money 1027 01:25:01,260 --> 01:25:07,620 that the county is holding from us it's Federal money that came into the uh um 1028 01:25:06,179 --> 01:25:12,420 the county and then they disperse it there you know based on basically on on 1029 01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:15,900 population so our allotment was two hundred thousand dollars 1030 01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:19,920 um the reason I wanted to bring that up because and there's nothing that needs 1031 01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:25,260 to be decided on tonight but uh with that 200 000 I found out through the 1032 01:25:22,679 --> 01:25:30,840 city or the County Commissioners that that money can be used for what what it 1033 01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:35,460 can be used for I just got a uh just a a just an email from from Rick Anderson 1034 01:25:33,060 --> 01:25:38,580 and it's it's for infrastructure it can't be for buildings it can't be for 1035 01:25:37,140 --> 01:25:43,080 anything new it's got to be infrastructure sewer water 1036 01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:47,900 um streets that type of thing so essentially we have 200 000 out there 1037 01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:52,080 that needs to be used by the end of 2025. so we got two and a half years to 1038 01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:55,080 use this money um 1039 01:25:52,679 --> 01:26:00,179 where this is going is is you had all receive the same email from the 1040 01:25:56,940 --> 01:26:04,980 individual that was uh talking about the museum and the and I think a lot of you 1041 01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:09,300 know the concerns of the museum that is in the county obviously and in the city 1042 01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:12,900 limits some of it um that they don't really have running 1043 01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:16,040 water out there they've got a cistern they carry water from one place to the 1044 01:26:15,300 --> 01:26:21,000 other they have a septic system because you 1045 01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:26,100 know and we can't afford to do any kind of of uh um I think the estimate is just 1046 01:26:24,480 --> 01:26:29,580 a guesstimate what it was is to put sewer out there a sewer line to be a 1047 01:26:28,139 --> 01:26:34,560 quarter of a million dollars you know obviously we don't have that but for 1048 01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:39,420 twenty thousand dollars and that is just uh just a guesstimate so far also with a 1049 01:26:36,719 --> 01:26:44,100 couple of bids that we got from a um a plumbing firm and then also a 1050 01:26:41,580 --> 01:26:48,360 underground digging firm that for right around twenty thousand dollars we could 1051 01:26:45,540 --> 01:26:54,179 put water out there I found out that this arpa money can be used for that 1052 01:26:51,719 --> 01:26:59,159 um I was also told that they would do anything they could since it is in the 1053 01:26:56,159 --> 01:27:03,600 county the the museum that uh depending on what we gave out of that fund to put 1054 01:27:01,860 --> 01:27:08,219 water out there um that they possibly would put some 1055 01:27:05,820 --> 01:27:13,800 money into it also I've also been in contact with the the uh Museum itself 1056 01:27:11,699 --> 01:27:17,880 and they possibly would be able to put some money into the into the projects it 1057 01:27:15,540 --> 01:27:20,219 is theirs but as you have you as you've seen out there they've got a lot of 1058 01:27:19,020 --> 01:27:24,600 projects that are already going on out there they put a lot of money a lot of 1059 01:27:21,780 --> 01:27:28,739 time a lot of effort out there um we don't need to I I'm not ready for 1060 01:27:27,179 --> 01:27:31,440 it yet tonight but it's something that I want you to at least think about because 1061 01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:35,639 when I do come back whether it's in three weeks or five weeks to to talk 1062 01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:39,659 about that I'd like you know decision it's it's the city council's money 1063 01:27:37,260 --> 01:27:43,679 there's two hundred thousand dollars it's yours you can do what you want with 1064 01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:46,679 it you know Shane and I have had discussion Eric and I had discussions on 1065 01:27:45,420 --> 01:27:50,880 it but um and again this is this is me throwing 1066 01:27:48,480 --> 01:27:55,980 my opinion in there again but uh putting twenty thousand dollars to to 1067 01:27:53,219 --> 01:28:01,080 updating the museum that brings so much to the community for twenty thousand for 1068 01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:04,320 ten percent of that money in my opinion it would be a good place 1069 01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:07,739 especially if we can get some money out of the museum itself and out of the 1070 01:28:06,900 --> 01:28:12,239 county would we need to do the 20 000 then we 1071 01:28:10,860 --> 01:28:16,199 we don't know what we don't know what the exact costs are going to be we got 1072 01:28:13,679 --> 01:28:20,880 some we would have to be Jerry we'd have to be a little bit flexible in the 1073 01:28:18,239 --> 01:28:24,540 number because uh the just for instance it was ten thousand six hundred dollars 1074 01:28:22,440 --> 01:28:27,910 to um for the drilling the underground drilling from the Dairy Queen site 1075 01:28:26,340 --> 01:28:31,320 wasn't it wasn't that chain [Music] 1076 01:28:29,460 --> 01:28:35,400 um to the where they would need it out there that's if they don't run into any 1077 01:28:33,239 --> 01:28:39,420 problems um the plumbing was anywhere from six to 1078 01:28:37,260 --> 01:28:43,980 eight thousand dollars you know so there are some some variables that we won't we 1079 01:28:41,460 --> 01:28:48,780 wouldn't know until we got into the into the project itself 1080 01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:52,860 so it's it's it's something that uh I wanted to put onto your plate so you can 1081 01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:56,580 at least think about it you come back and say absolutely not I didn't promise 1082 01:28:54,600 --> 01:29:01,440 anybody anything I just did the groundwork with the county and with the 1083 01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:07,020 museum to just to discuss it because you all were a part of that that email that 1084 01:29:04,380 --> 01:29:10,460 came out from a representative from the from the museum 1085 01:29:09,239 --> 01:29:15,900 okay any questions 1086 01:29:12,620 --> 01:29:19,860 anything I always do I just don't want because we've already 1087 01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:24,179 said that that arpa money was going to go for 1088 01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:29,580 the industrial park out there yep I don't want us also start dipping in 1089 01:29:26,699 --> 01:29:34,020 where it comes that we don't have enough money to do that project out there I've 1090 01:29:32,340 --> 01:29:38,580 been a part of that out there and the project itself out there is is could 1091 01:29:36,900 --> 01:29:42,900 it's you know the five phases that are right now and it's down the road 1092 01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:47,699 um but remember we're also going to be applying for a uh 1093 01:29:45,659 --> 01:29:52,400 um it's it's a it's a deed grant that for industrial parks so they put in you 1094 01:29:50,639 --> 01:29:57,659 know in case somebody comes in for manufacturing or for uh storage or 1095 01:29:55,739 --> 01:30:02,699 something like that there are some matching deed grants which we can use 1096 01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:07,260 federal money for the state that that saved money and none of that money could 1097 01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:10,980 be used to fix the bathrooms up in this building here at all no that's that's it 1098 01:30:09,540 --> 01:30:13,980 that would be a part of the building itself it doesn't anything for building 1099 01:30:12,480 --> 01:30:16,580 this is all basically I'll say it's Underground 1100 01:30:15,300 --> 01:30:21,600 program very very limited some of that go there 1101 01:30:19,380 --> 01:30:25,139 very limited I'll fix the bathroom but we'd really like to do that you know 1102 01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:29,699 we the the city's been talking about this well before any of you were on the 1103 01:30:27,239 --> 01:30:34,020 console obviously way before me 40 years ago when they plotted that out out there 1104 01:30:31,500 --> 01:30:37,800 probably in the I'm going to say the 80s maybe they plotted that land out of 1105 01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:42,659 there put it into two and one and two acre lots out there we would do what we 1106 01:30:40,380 --> 01:30:47,460 could out there but we'd also want to get the money the matching 180 000 or 1107 01:30:46,020 --> 01:30:51,179 200 000 is not going to make that much of a difference Jerry it's it's we would 1108 01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:55,139 have to have some money coming in from someplace else to do any kind of no I 1109 01:30:53,460 --> 01:31:00,000 understand that but it's like anything when you start taking a little for this 1110 01:30:58,260 --> 01:31:04,739 because it's just a little then well we'll just take a little for this and 1111 01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:10,020 I'll sign that you add up all those Littles absolutely yeah well Jerry I 1112 01:31:07,620 --> 01:31:14,460 share your concerns and I'm a big supporter of 1113 01:31:11,900 --> 01:31:21,360 infrastructure for that industrial park because that is so important to our 1114 01:31:17,580 --> 01:31:27,960 hopes of expanding our tax base and creating more jobs but I do feel really 1115 01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:33,600 strongly about the about the wheels Museum I mean just think about you don't 1116 01:31:30,239 --> 01:31:41,000 have running water I know we've got people hauling water to water plants or 1117 01:31:37,020 --> 01:31:46,380 just clean things and it's just the water and I don't know if twenty 1118 01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:52,260 thousand dollars is the right number but something something for the wheels to 1119 01:31:49,440 --> 01:31:55,260 help them get water see what it comes to okay 1120 01:31:57,239 --> 01:32:04,440 anything else that uh that you'd like to to talk about that's on my report 1121 01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:07,679 Burgers bands and Brews we got two checks in today 1122 01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:12,360 I got two more checks in today we're missing three of the money that was uh 1123 01:32:10,139 --> 01:32:15,780 for sponsorships we got the two more ins we're only missing one right now so 1124 01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:19,560 that's going to be very successful for the Tracy Area Community Foundation as 1125 01:32:18,719 --> 01:32:23,520 they're going to be able to give some money away again this year because uh 1126 01:32:21,480 --> 01:32:27,179 out of the right now and we'll get that other thousand dollars but we had we 1127 01:32:25,440 --> 01:32:31,620 were up to just shy of ten thousand dollars in in sponsorships and we only 1128 01:32:30,179 --> 01:32:37,340 have one of those left it's just like last year it's taken some time to people 1129 01:32:34,260 --> 01:32:41,820 are busy in the summertime so nice good job yeah that's nice to nice 1130 01:32:40,139 --> 01:32:48,120 to get that taken care of without me begging too much 1131 01:32:44,639 --> 01:32:51,980 any other questions you got for me thank you Jeff thank you 1132 01:32:56,720 --> 01:33:04,339 [Music]