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[0:09] thank you all for coming we will call to
order the regular city council meeting
[0:13] of Monday July 24th we do the Pledge of
Allegiance
[0:18] I apologize
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[0:33] thank you
[0:38] oh my God he's trying to bribe his way
to have this meeting if anyone wants
[0:44] cucumbers
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[0:56] do you have any corrections or deletions
or anything to our agenda do not believe
[1:01] so
[1:03] approve is written I'll second that
first and second all those in favor hi
[1:10] motion carries
and we have no publication
[1:14] is there anybody in the audience that
would like to talk about something that
[1:18] is not on the agenda
[1:22] you got to come up to the mic though
[1:34] hi my name is Kelly McConnell and I live
at 615 Emory Street here in Tracy and I
[1:40] just would like to have the stop signs
put back in town instead of yield signs
[1:46] that's it that's good because you're not
the first person that said that so okay
[1:51] I have a it's instead of here
excuse me
[1:55] oh I the yield signs they there's a
bunch of there used to be stop signs and
[2:00] now there's yield signs and
how did they get replaced with yield
[2:04] signs anyway
[2:07] okay Kyle do you want to touch on that
how did they get replaced with yield
[2:10] signs
where are these at come on up here what
[2:16] what are the intersections one
intersection would be Sixth Street and
[2:21] Emory Street it's coming right off of
Highway 14 and then all the way down 6th
[2:26] Street by the all the way down even by
this uh Catholic Church the school there
[2:30] those are the old signs three eight two
projects
[2:35] 382 project
I might have to get back to you on that
[2:40] one I don't know if I at each location I
know that there were some um some of
[2:46] this the streets that are the numbered
streets that were more of the through
[2:49] streets and didn't have you know I think
a lot of the if I recall right the East
[2:54] and West streets had stops and the North
and South will column North and South
[2:59] um had yields so I know that there was
some adjustments there but it's so I'd
[3:05] have to look back at it exactly now
they're all now it's the East and West
[3:09] are all yields when they used to be all
stops so there's a standard that Kyle
[3:14] applied because there wasn't much the
same
[3:19] you know they're really you know there's
a stop signs in some places and yields
[3:22] than the other
so you know we we had went through at
[3:26] the time to kind of take a look at that
and like I said at some of the crossing
[3:29] streets of stop signs and yields yield
signs that the other more through
[3:32] streets but it's certainly something we
could look at adjusting if it needs to
[3:36] go back I think there were certain parts
of it where it was a through Street most
[3:41] of the way but then there was a stop and
it just didn't totally make sense from
[3:44] that standpoint but I I'd have to look
back at some of the notes too on each
[3:49] intersection so can you do that and get
back then is there a reason why you feel
[3:54] the yield needs to go away to a stop it
just because you're used to a stop well
[3:59] I've seen a lot of people just blow past
yeah they even come to any type of stop
[4:04] and there are children riding bikes and
not on the sidewalk or on the street and
[4:10] there's you know special needs kids in
that area and it just is a huge concern
[4:15] I yeah
yeah
[4:17] wonder why you were requesting yeah
especially the church too because
[4:22] there's nothing yeah they're a specific
busy intersections that would make more
[4:27] sense to be a four-way stop we could
look at that too just a stop would be
[4:32] I'd take that I mean that's something
it's just that they come right in off of
[4:36] Highway 14. and there's there they've
got some speed and then they just kind
[4:42] of go through that but okay
thank you thank you thank you
[4:49] does that stuff go through Planning and
Zoning isn't that where the initially
[4:53] the signage and all that goes through
that no it's more of just Council on
[4:59] that it's not really a planning or
zoning issue it's a traffic regulation
[5:03] issue so
um they used to make recommendations to
[5:08] us they used to but according to city
code that's not how the process should
[5:13] work usually just go to city council if
it's zoning and land use you know that's
[5:17] different from I don't know Matt can
maybe even touch on that but
[5:21] um as far as uh
the yield and stops you know it's all
[5:26] part of the project plans
[5:30] I guess in the beginning there's some
plans on what where they're stopped and
[5:35] where there's not but you know so the
council approved that
[5:39] you know indirectly I guess with proving
the plans but
[5:44] um it's not a big deal to change it if
the council wants to go back in certain
[5:48] areas or in all areas what was there
before I mean I guess I don't like when
[5:53] those fine detail things go through on a
big
[5:57] construction plan because I'm sorry I
guess I'll speak for myself but I don't
[6:04] look through those big construction
plans in that grade of detail to know so
[6:09] there's a yield or a stop I guess I
think those kinds of changes need to go
[6:15] through I was thinking it was the
Planning and Zoning because that's where
[6:17] it used to go because I know when they
wanted some other signs put up for
[6:24] I don't know if it was the place to slow
down with with you know children at play
[6:29] or something that used to go through
Planning and Zoning if that's not what
[6:33] it does anymore that's fine but then I
would want it brought to the council in
[6:37] more detail if it's not going to go to
the Planning and Zoning you know moving
[6:41] forward
[6:44] if it doesn't go back to the way it used
to be or they're changing it and I
[6:48] remember years ago there was a bad
accident on one of those intersections
[6:52] in the area that you're talking about
and
[6:56] the neighborhood was insistent on
getting a stop sign versus a yield
[7:01] they just felt that it was
well I can tell you I live on one of the
[7:05] corners
of Emory and six that went from a stop
[7:09] to a guild
I I like the stop sign especially with
[7:14] the liquor store at the End of the
Street people you know it used to be
[7:18] food and fuel but people come driving
down that street quite rapidly they did
[7:24] do a four-way stop there at one time
that's not necessary they ended up
[7:29] removing the the stop signs off of 6th
Street
[7:33] it's just a few at least get one
direction to stop it helps the accidents
[7:39] because at least one direction is
slowing down is this something that we
[7:43] should involve the police commission or
the police department on picking or help
[7:48] choosing or
yeah
[7:51] uh regulating this
[7:55] well you think it would be uniform if
they had this the numbered streets all
[8:00] through streets and the other the cross
ones like they used to be have stop
[8:05] signs on yeah but Morgan's not that way
so it's
[8:08] the stop sign was on the numbered Street
no it was on Emory Street
[8:17] it was on Roland down by the fight yeah
Kyle's just trying to put a standard on
[8:23] everything to make it so it's not just
here and there then you got green tone
[8:27] that has no stop signs so or yield signs
just a wild west on this side be a good
[8:33] place to use some of them signs so
yeah I understand trying to be
[8:40] consistent but at the same time
neighborhoods aren't consistent so I
[8:45] think we have to look at individual
circumstances
[8:50] totally understand that we can review
that and yeah I apologize for not having
[8:55] some of that background I think some of
these discussions might have predated my
[8:59] involvement with the design of that a
number of years back but I can take a
[9:03] look back at some of our Notes too if
that didn't go into planning
[9:12] Jan is and obviously it has I've only
since I've been on in January we've only
[9:17] met once
we they've said no business before us so
[9:22] then we don't meet
yeah we'd be happy to sit down and take
[9:26] one
[9:28] take a look thank you
my name is Tyler twistel as you all know
[9:33] I just stood up to mention that the
other day on my way to the liquor store
[9:36] to get the deposit there was a decently
bad crash right on 6th and Emory
[9:41] um the car was being towed away so I
agree we should get some stop signs on
[9:46] Emery
time
[9:52] hello I'm here anyway so I figured I'd
mention this I'm Sammy Jo Miller and I
[9:56] did summer camps with the kids at the
park this year and I wanted to mention
[10:00] that the women's restroom at the park
needs a garbage can
[10:04] um because some of the younger girls
were leaving their tampons and wrappers
[10:08] and things like that in the bathroom and
there's no place for them to dispose of
[10:11] them in the bathroom so they'd have to
wrap them up and bring them outside and
[10:15] teenage girls I'm sure aren't going to
want to do that in front of their
[10:18] friends or other people at the park so
if we could just get a garbage can in
[10:21] the bathroom in for the girls I would I
think that would be a good idea
[10:25] Central Park
[10:29] anybody else in the office like to talk
about something that has not done the
[10:33] agenda
[10:39] my name is Janine van andreshi and I
leave that in 340 4th Street East and
[10:44] I'm here to request
um
[10:47] for with a request for our Workforce
group
[10:50] that maybe one of them could be involved
in the selection of the rfps
[10:57] and I would probably go with Ken Witt
because he has knowledge of that
[11:04] so I know that we are our Workforce
group is going to be involved once one
[11:09] is selected but I was wondering if it
would be possible I was just making
[11:14] requests of the city council if it would
be possible for just one of us to be
[11:19] involved in the
in the actual selection of the architect
[11:25] so it was our intent that
the committee would pick narrative down
[11:30] to three right and then that we would
have one of you guys join them oh I
[11:35] didn't realize that okay
well that I think that would really be
[11:39] good if you could do that
just because
[11:44] you know of the ideas that we have had
over the last couple of years and
[11:50] we've kind of gone over some of the
just in our minds plans for the building
[11:56] and it would be helpful I think that was
our intent okay well then I wouldn't
[12:03] have even had to have
thank you you're welcome
[12:09] anybody else in the audience like to
anything to say I'm seeing none I'm
[12:16] gonna move right along
the consent calendar
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I'll make a motion to approve the July
[12:24] 10th Council minute approved Municipal
accounts payable and payroll without
[12:29] breakthrough beverage
approved Municipal accounts receivable
[12:35] approve the June 20th Park board minutes
and approve resolution
[12:42] 2023-66 approving the disbursements of
allocation for 2023
[12:52] .
first and second any further discussion
[12:57] real call please
whoever's doing that all right
[13:02] Dave Deeks
aye and Corman
[13:06] aye
Jan or bizu yes Seth Schmidt yes Tom
[13:11] Dobson yeah
Jerry Jones
[13:15] aye and George landite
aye
[13:25] for breakthrough beverage
second that first and second any
[13:30] discussion on that
roll call please
[13:34] George landaid all right Gary schones hi
Tom Dobson
[13:40] hi Seth Schmidt yes Jan arbisu yes Dave
Teague
[13:47] good one and Pam Corman hi
[13:56] so mayor council communication our first
thing is the community center rfps
[14:06] thank you
[14:09] I know as soon as you're done with
yourself over there
[14:13] so we received
uh 10 total rfps for the community
[14:19] center design
um
[14:23] it was Jan George
[14:28] Jeff and I that went through
the numerous
[14:33] streams of paper of information
um we did narrow it down
[14:39] I'm gonna find the right page here but
[14:51] there we go so the
[14:56] the first one
the highest points was bollock
[15:00] engineering the second one was isg
and the third one was hey Dobbs
[15:07] they're the top three and I can go over
all of them I don't know if you
[15:11] understood my
[15:14] spreadsheet at all
[15:18] and we did
kind of mentioned that we could maybe
[15:23] have added a fourth one Studio e
in that it was so the fourth one was
[15:30] astr or atsr oh I
[15:37] yeah that would have been number five
okay
[15:44] so what's the plan then there
[15:48] how we're gonna do this
you mean once we do the three yeah so
[15:54] what I've suggested before is maybe we
want to do an interview with these three
[16:02] um with the committee and if they want
to add someone from the work group you
[16:06] know however you want to do that you can
really pick anyone I mean it's not like
[16:11] a like a little bitter type thing
[16:16] what the console wants for
[16:19] for design professional for it so
um
[16:23] but it sounds like the work group does
want some input on it so maybe that's
[16:26] something you'd want to entertain
[16:32] ing
[16:35] so this is being brought to us to
approve where do you want to go from
[16:41] here so they narrowed it down to the one
through ten so where do you want to go
[16:45] from here as far as selecting or not
selecting or
[16:51] think the other thing we discussed in
two was exactly where we were at
[16:56] financially how is that any of that come
back in I don't have all the information
[17:01] on that
um I don't know Tyler do you you don't
[17:05] have all the pieces for that either I
assume for the community center yeah
[17:11] oh you sent that one must have been
um I saw about two hundred eight
[17:18] thousand dollars that had been raised
and then I don't remember the exact
[17:24] number that we had set apart from the
city
[17:28] do you remember it's a hundred something
I think there's like 138 000 left from
[17:32] what I recall from when Eric left but
I'm not sure what that amount is right
[17:36] now so those are the numbers that I
remember
[17:40] oh I'm sorry
[17:43] so
um what I'd seen was 208 000 in
[17:48] fundraising and
a hundred and something thousand that
[17:51] the city had set apart but then we'd
also heard from the southwest initiative
[17:55] foundation and they had items that
weren't on my list and I'm wondering if
[17:59] I have items that aren't on their list
so
[18:03] um we'd have to get together with them
to see you
[18:06] what all the donations actually are
um and then as far as expenses there
[18:14] have been approximately eleven thousand
dollars in expenses so far
[18:18] and I don't remember exactly what they
were all for
[18:22] um
but part of it was the Tracy's Got
[18:27] Talent another part I want to say I was
like for an architect or engineer some
[18:33] sort of planning piece
um but yeah approximately eleven
[18:37] thousand dollars in expenses
[18:46] that you had doesn't does that include
the pledge
[18:50] so that's all through Southwest the
foundation isn't it
[18:55] yes I think for the most part
um I think there was some other
[18:59] pledges I don't know if someone from the
workforce may have that outside of
[19:04] the Southwest
should have maybe donations so I don't
[19:09] know if that was filtered through a
different organization or if it came
[19:12] directly to us but so they don't show a
balance until the money's in there so if
[19:18] so like one of them was a five-year
pledge
[19:21] where
you're only going to get year one this
[19:23] year and then it's gonna be five years
before that whole pledge
[19:27] comes back and I don't know all the
details on every one of them I exam
[19:32] coming into this late so there was
another one that was similar to that I
[19:36] want to say it was
Sanford Health
[19:39] that it was fifty thousand dollars like
ten thousand each year for five years
[19:43] was that right to like three years over
three years or something
[19:50] well and we had Lewis Drug
okay I mean that all being said yeah uh
[19:57] we have a grant to help fund what we're
trying to figure out yeah yeah
[20:03] so there's a fifty thousand dollar grant
for the design portion of this
[20:09] so I see here you raided them yeah but
[20:15] I'm assuming part of it is the cost I
mean it says your design cost and
[20:22] everything yep
I guess I don't feel comfortable I mean
[20:27] I guess I feel comfortable saying I'll
Trust you guys for your top three
[20:31] interview them yeah but I don't feel
comfortable approving something when I
[20:36] don't know if it's going to cost us 20
000 or a hundred and twenty thousand
[20:41] because I haven't seen that that was my
next point the bids would be well over
[20:46] the fifty thousand and we figured that
yeah there's none of them that are going
[20:50] to be less than well really that's an
80. the first two components of the bid
[20:55] won't right it's the when you go to let
the bed for the actual build then they
[21:03] get between six and ten percent or
twelve percent of the total cost so that
[21:08] puts you over the 50 000 but I think
what was
[21:13] trying to get across was they was trying
to figure out what this thing is going
[21:17] to cost so they knew where to go
fundraising or not go
[21:21] and until we get some idea what it's
going to cost nobody knows where this
[21:26] everybody's in limbo
so the first two components of this RFP
[21:33] I think will be well under the 50 000.
and will that get us what the
[21:37] approximate cost is if I I understood
that Jeff crabby can help me or shame if
[21:42] I understood it right that would get us
kind of a fairly close
[21:47] engineered guesstimate what it's going
to cost am I right on that yes
[21:52] yes
[21:55] um I I think what George and I and I
haven't met to look through this weave
[22:05] okay
[22:10] simultaneous we can't just go
phase two and have
[22:17] a cost estimate when it
when I dug into their submissions you in
[22:23] Greater detail and then talk machine
about this
[22:27] it appears that
[22:30] a true cost estimate
it will have to actually go through the
[22:35] full phase three to get a real realistic
bid
[22:39] and so and we're committing to this I
believe we're committed
[22:45] committing
[22:49] so for for the full cost of what they
put out here for this RFP I mean that
[22:54] would make sense because
but if they're not doing the building
[22:59] there's really no dollar to base their
phase three off which would be the
[23:03] actual construction supervision portion
you'd almost have to if you wanted to
[23:08] nail it down you'd have to have your
bids come in and then you'd know but
[23:13] they can give you I know they've done
this in engineering projects for streets
[23:17] and stuff they can give you an
approximation yeah of what they think
[23:21] the cost will be based on materials Etc
yeah I believe the RFP also stated that
[23:28] it's contingent on funding the project
too so if you get these
[23:34] you know if you get you know only to the
the or through the design portion and
[23:40] cost estimation portion then
you really you know say we can't come up
[23:44] with you know
800 000 or 1.8 million or whatever it
[23:49] comes out at you know what
you know at that point you could say oh
[23:54] we can't do this or we need to go raise
more money or whatever it may be from
[23:59] that point but
um we don't really really know what the
[24:02] cost is going to be until you do those
first couple phases meet with the work
[24:07] group
come up with an actual
[24:11] design of what they want what they're
going to do based on what they're doing
[24:15] in the building the programming part of
it
[24:17] and from there you know they can
determine what what kind of kitchen it
[24:21] needs and
um because just the kitchen alone is
[24:24] gonna vary by a couple hundred thousand
I mean it's
[24:29] well phase one was Community involvement
where they would work directly with the
[24:33] work group and uh console reps and and
that sort of thing to
[24:39] get a sense of what are they designing
for what activities Etc
[24:46] yeah
[24:48] I guess I'm still not coming as to what
you're wanting from from us
[24:54] put on here
for the the top three candidates and for
[25:00] the committee plus one other work
um
[25:04] the other well I don't want to say it
because technically that work group
[25:09] includes the council you're not an own
separate group so I'd hate to keep
[25:13] calling you the work group because we're
part of that work group we have to be
[25:17] one
but to add in uh a non-counsel
[25:23] City employee on to that
committee
[25:30] [Music]
[25:33] yeah
so when we met together with Shane and
[25:39] Jeff benign and Jan to formulate these
numbers for the grading results one of
[25:45] the
[Music]
[25:48] to sit back down once we have
a full
[25:53] port on how much money has been actually
raised how much cash we have and this
[26:01] seen with this with this Army
to verify
[26:05] where we want to go with this
and to and engage with what we have
[26:12] right now if that come
[Music]
[26:15] that kind of funds raised before we
begin
[26:23] this first leg
you know I'm looking at an 85
[26:29] 000 a 76 625
[26:33] or some of our those are two of the
three
[26:37] it's rather spendy if you go through all
three phases the biggest part of course
[26:43] is the actual true design
and and that's where it really jacks up
[26:49] the price the most of the pre-designed
phases the community involvement in some
[26:54] preliminary ideas but that's why we had
asked for a concrete definition this
[27:02] seems where Tyler you kind of got the
feeling that maybe not everybody had all
[27:07] the information
and I really hope that
[27:11] within a week we can get that all pulled
together is that reasonable
[27:15] Shane do you think we can find out where
it is
[27:19] I know that's what's been somewhat
elusive
[27:24] because we're able to ask I mean
like Southwest initiatives easy yeah I
[27:30] was going to say it wasn't 30 years back
as someone was on vacation
[27:34] what's that I thought there was some
delay on getting a response because
[27:38] someone was on vacation or yeah their
response that's what exchange going off
[27:42] of right now is that yeah you want me to
read that
[27:51] this is from Jeff fetch who's been
working with the uh with the foundation
[27:56] which the the community center is a a
just an offset of the of the the group
[28:02] that we had formed
um I'm out next week but I can give you
[28:05] a little Direction on finding
information in the porthole if you click
[28:08] on the funds tabs that will show you the
balances of all the funds the Tracy
[28:12] Community Center fund currently shows
206
[28:15] 401.48 cents please note this includes
pledges not received
[28:20] um so it is 20 000 or more less cash on
hand there has been a pledge from Lewis
[28:26] family drug for twenty five thousand
dollars over five years five thousand
[28:29] dollars of that has been received
um so so I think what we're looking for
[28:36] and what I'm hearing is is we need to
get everybody involved including Val for
[28:40] sure and and and get some information
with the the treasurer which would be
[28:44] Tony Peterson of the Tracy Erie
foundation and then with Tyler with the
[28:49] three of them get a list of exactly what
we have because we hear all the time you
[28:53] know this is what we've got we've got a
700 3 000 we've got 720 000 we don't
[28:57] exactly know what that is or where it's
at but I in my opinion it needs to be
[29:01] just divided into what we have in the
southwest initiative foundation account
[29:05] what we have in the Tracy account and
what we have in pledges and then we can
[29:10] then we can go on from there so that's
kind of what this this is telling me
[29:15] that was the vacation Jan that you're
that I I told him that you told me was
[29:19] on vacation but then he got back to me
right away so I'm confused then where
[29:23] does this dollar amount that go with on
this thermometer where's that dollar
[29:27] amount
coming from I I think I can
[29:31] speak I I hate to speak for anybody but
I think that is that would be funds like
[29:36] um
um de blandin Grant that what was that
[29:40] that was a hundred thousand dollars
that's not a part of this where is that
[29:44] money at I don't know I know we have
received it we have
[29:48] yes right exactly exactly
yeah and the in the hundred thousand
[29:54] from Midwest is over a three year period
we haven't received that first one yet
[29:59] let alone the second and the third so
that's a piece of it that's what we in
[30:03] my opinion we need to put all those
together in lines about okay what do we
[30:06] got and then you can give you a true
total I'd like brand
[30:12] as to when it would have to be spent
easy easy or just so that kind of helps
[30:18] us with a timeline too is that if we
don't do something by this time we're
[30:22] going to lose this you're right there's
more information with that too Jerry
[30:25] there's more information on the Blanding
Grant and what we can do with it whether
[30:28] it's
this project or another
[30:32] you know
okay so that would hopefully spell out
[30:36] where we're at financially a little
clear
[30:39] but I guess I'm still confused when we
ordered to move forward to get the the
[30:46] rfps
the reason we did it is because we said
[30:51] we need to know how much the final thing
is going to be and now you guys that saw
[30:57] the rfps you're saying it's going to be
the full cost of these rfps
[31:03] foreign
[Music]
[31:05] what's the final cut what's going to be
the cost to get that building built
[31:11] no you're just talking the planning
portion yeah to get the guesstimate down
[31:16] that includes everything though that
includes electrical I mean everything
[31:21] you know like the example
you used or somebody used as far as the
[31:27] street projects right so let's say on
average about 15 000 for that portion
[31:31] that on average for the preliminary
stage one and two yeah
[31:38] somewhere less than that that's where
these get really kind of confusing is
[31:42] because some of them will put it into a
phase one some of them put more into a
[31:45] phase two and then in the end they
usually give a percentage each one of
[31:48] these gives a percentage of what the in
the project kind of the project that we
[31:52] gave them because they needed a number
also and we use that 825 to 875. that's
[31:57] the number we use we didn't say that
this was going to be the project number
[32:00] we told them this is the this is what we
you can use as your percentages because
[32:04] if one uses seven and a half percent of
875 the next one's eight point two five
[32:09] percent obviously that one's going to be
higher so that's the way this isn't an
[32:12] exact science of looking through these
rfps because each one of the 10 have
[32:16] different ideas of what they're going to
do
[32:19] okay but you guys did the leg work of at
least narrowing it down or raiding them
[32:24] where we could at least say okay we want
to look at the top three or whatever I
[32:30] guess I'm feeling
okay kind of like my hands are either
[32:35] tight or they're just floundering
because I I don't feel comfortable
[32:39] making a motion on anything that I don't
know what the dollars are Jerry that's a
[32:43] good observation and I think we too uh
well a thick stack of papers we went
[32:50] through we tried to be as objective as
possible in ranking everybody and
[32:54] sometimes it was very hard to compare
apples to oranges
[32:59] um
so some of it was based on say anywhere
[33:02] from six to 12 percent of the
final cost of the project well gee whiz
[33:09] we don't even know how much that's going
to be so that's why it was very
[33:12] difficult to get a good handle on what
and that's why we wanted to know what do
[33:19] we think we really have nailed down for
contributions
[33:22] and I'm going to throw in one other
thing and maybe as relevant or not my
[33:26] brother is a my brother-in-law is a
project manager for an architectural
[33:30] firm in South Dakota
and he said right now and I'm sure that
[33:35] includes cost of land acquisition which
we already have
[33:39] but he said you we're telling our
potential clients to figure on average
[33:45] 500 a square foot you take 2 800 square
feet times 500 and I unless my math was
[33:52] wrong it came out over a million dollars
and that's that's probably including
[33:59] cost of the land which is given right so
we could take that out of the picture
[34:05] but that's when I started to worry so
where are we at with fundraising versus
[34:11] the reality and do we spend
85 000 on
[34:20] getting
this phase one two and three done and
[34:25] then maybe we can't come up I don't know
which comes first the chicken or the egg
[34:31] type thing it's kind of like how are we
going to figure this out and not waste
[34:36] people's money because this is a lot of
money just to do the preliminaries and
[34:40] the design
[34:43] so I guess the Dilemma we're in right
now
[34:46] to I guess get this going in the right
direction
[34:53] so everyone's all right with the three
going to a committee for interviews that
[34:59] go into a committee I think
yeah
[35:05] the same people that look through all
the and adding someone from the work
[35:09] group
[35:12] it's the non-countable part of the work
group yeah the trouble we're going to
[35:17] hit though hope we're still going to be
in the same
[35:21] dilemma so to speak unless we move to
the step three but you can ask during
[35:27] the interview
or what their guess is straight out like
[35:30] what's what's this going to cost what's
this going to cost and what's this going
[35:33] to cost and then
we can bring that back to the council so
[35:38] if the council's all right with going
with a
[35:42] what a four or five person committee
to interview these these three prospects
[35:48] then we can go
from there as far as costs and
[35:53] your ultimately gonna have to sign a
contract and that'll detail the exact
[35:58] cost at that moment so you really have a
hotel that time before you're obligated
[36:02] and committed to paying that amount
it's just a process to get that amount
[36:06] and in that process will everyone's
numbers be the same to that point you
[36:11] don't know that but you always can
decline to sign that contract because
[36:16] you haven't committed yourself it's not
like a low-cost bidding this is
[36:20] Professional Services you don't have to
go with the lowest bid so if it gets to
[36:24] a point where
you don't have the funds you can just
[36:26] say we're not going to sign the contract
as a point here we go you're just
[36:30] wasting your time at that point but
you're not committing resources
[36:34] financially so
so is everybody in agreeance with the
[36:40] taking the top three here and I'm okay
with that Pam but I would hope that in
[36:47] this process we could get some more
information on what the square foot cost
[36:55] is for some commercial projects that are
going on now or that have just been bid
[37:02] for next year because this whole thing
everything comes down to affordability
[37:08] and then we've got to get more detailed
information on the money we have in hand
[37:15] what's in pledges and so forth so we
know exactly where we're at and whether
[37:20] this is feasible it's nice to see that a
piece of the information before we meet
[37:25] with anybody
so in our minds as
[37:32] companies what they
are thinking the costs are per square
[37:35] foot I can ask them I don't know
if they'll give us a straight answer
[37:39] because they don't know what they're
building and that's the problem you can
[37:43] get the Cadillac or you can get the
strip down version the work truck
[37:47] I mean it's you can build a building
with you know a million options with
[37:53] automatic lighting and all this stuff
and then you can get the one where you
[37:56] have to flip a switch
we're not going Cadillac I'll tell you
[38:00] that well that's right but you know if
you ask these people for their current
[38:04] projects for foot price
you don't know what that owner of that
[38:10] construction projects including in their
project so it's
[38:14] it's not really black and white and
that's that's a problem that's why
[38:18] we kind of need to go through this
process it's not going to cost us
[38:21] anything to have them come here and
interview them nope or could we even do
[38:26] a zoom you could if it would be more
convenient you know what though well I
[38:32] think that they should come here because
they should be bringing some plans and
[38:35] like showing you and having some my
details of like what they're offering us
[38:39] for this money I think what sets that is
to get an approximation of per square
[38:45] foot on projects that are already
current for them to get somewhat of a
[38:50] handle but you can't do that he just
told you that'd be like you can if you
[38:54] go through the Cadillac process or the
the more moderate version but you can
[38:59] have them you know if they're willing to
show pictures or whatever then you can
[39:03] kind of see what they're doing
[39:06] we're not looking at a Cadillac and I
don't think they're going to tell us the
[39:10] price of the Cadillac because it's going
to throw them out to the bid
[39:14] I mean if they're gonna give us a quote
of 800 per square foot because they're
[39:19] going to give us the price of a Cadillac
whether they're not going to get the bed
[39:23] or the approval of the rfps so I don't
think a business is going to be that
[39:28] stupid to give us a outrageously High
cost at this point in time when you're
[39:35] setting this up Shane then I'd like to
defer my position on this committee to
[39:40] Tom
yeah first off I'm gonna be out of town
[39:44] for a bit here and I'm crazy busy so I
know Tom isn't haha
[39:51] but if that's all right with the council
I would like to defer or anybody else
[39:56] want to step up I don't care but he's
the one that kind of helped me get my
[40:00] head wrapped around this stuff and
I got to tell you I was uncomfortable
[40:06] doing it because I've never done it
before
[40:08] so
I mean Tom looked at the bids yeah
[40:16] he's okay with it
are you okay with that Tom
[40:26] Jerry you were talking about being
uncomfortable about much each of these
[40:30] were charging and uh it might be helpful
for Shane to explain kind of this rating
[40:35] system because
boss was one of four parts of how we
[40:43] created this
experience and schedule and like kind s
[40:50] and whatever was all part of it
there was one firm that was a smaller
[40:56] firm
and fairly local from Glenwood that was
[41:01] the actual lowest
cost for all three phases
[41:07] and I guess I would
I would like to at least throw out that
[41:12] we invited them I know that they did not
they were scored I think the fifth yes
[41:23] and that was 20 points and so that made
a pretty big difference
[41:29] um I just I guess I would like to see
what a small firm you know bollocks
[41:33] pretty sized that is pretty good size I
mean they certainly have the experience
[41:38] but I'm wondering if it will be just a
small little fish in a great big pond on
[41:44] our little project if it's not maybe
something we should consider is
[41:50] a small group but an option
I like that idea well I've got two
[41:56] concerns with that idea one is does it
put us in uh
[42:01] awkward situation when we go through
this exercise and now we bump someone
[42:07] above someone else is that other company
going to say well why didn't you let me
[42:11] come and do it in person presentation
plus if this is a small company if they
[42:19] didn't include a schedule what other
things did they not include
[42:24] that maybe they won't end up the
cheapest because they didn't include
[42:29] everything that they should have you
know I just I think when we go through
[42:33] an exercise of rating when you go away
from it
[42:38] I just don't know if the fairness goes
away with it can you pick and choose
[42:42] yeah if that's the case then we would
probably interview five because they
[42:46] were fifth
well then why don't we just interview
[42:49] all attend I mean if we're going to go
down that rabbit hole it's like
[42:55] well we picked out we we said in the
beginning we were going to pick three
[43:00] so those were the top three that you
guys picked that's what we interviewed
[43:07] I mean that's what we said from the
beginning
[43:11] I agree
[43:15] the one
thought I concern I have at that time is
[43:19] because I thought when we did that that
night remember we threw up one or two
[43:23] other ones because they didn't include
something in their bid
[43:26] en
[43:32] I mean usually if it's not a complete
thing you throw it out
[43:37] no matter which aspect it is
[43:50] [Music]
[43:58] an option to
the party that had the lowest cost for
[44:02] what we're looking
their total price was 16.
[44:08] total price was 73 675.
which is significantly below
[44:16] the next ones
[44:21] for 1400
[44:37] just an idea I'm fine with the top three
I think we still need to get some really
[44:43] quality estimates and sit back down with
the workforce group and have a good
[44:49] heart to heart of where we really are
um pledges are good but if they're over
[44:54] a five-year period we don't have all of
what we need to start moving dirt day
[45:01] one
[45:11] so
um
[45:14] well I'd say we go with the top three
not three and then for the non-council
[45:21] part of the work group they wanted
Kenwood
[45:27] so it's going to be
Tom
[45:31] Jan
Jeff Jeff
[45:34] myself and Ken thank you
[45:41] thank you and you'll have a
recommendation for the full council at
[45:44] what date then
the next council meeting or hopefully
[45:49] depends on how fast you can line up if
you can zoom it that'll make it easier
[45:53] yeah
I seriously don't think you get
[45:58] the full effect that he's in something
like that do you
[46:02] does anybody else right now I said I
don't feel like you get the full effect
[46:06] if you zoom it I understand I understand
what you're saying I mean it's not like
[46:11] it's just like they're not but they need
to have a presentation and I just don't
[46:16] that's my feeling is if you do it by
Zoom I don't think you're going to get
[46:20] the full effect
that's just my opinion
[46:24] if they want the job they can drive here
to present it to us right
[46:29] I say we leave it up to you as the
committee you get a lot of pushback from
[46:33] all of them
you know I don't think you will I mean I
[46:38] wouldn't think so because it's not a
small job no
[46:44] the soul but I don't want to sit here
and micromanage the work group you know
[46:48] if you sit there and get a lot of
pushback
[46:51] you know then you guys make the decision
how you're going to move forward
[46:57] this is their very busy season but
they're in the middle of if they're
[47:01] managing other projects that they've
already yeah but honey they got
[47:04] different people who design things
versus manage it yeah I understand
[47:08] there's very few of them firms did the
total thing
[47:13] this
company did this and this they work with
[47:17] this other outfit and they do this and
there I don't know if there was any if I
[47:21] remember that did the whole thing start
to finish
[47:24] you guys decided okay so yeah let's just
go with that the top three you guys
[47:29] decide if you want to do it Zoom or not
do it Zoom
[47:33] and we'll go from there
you need direction from us other than
[47:36] this is telling you that
discussion I needed so we know where to
[47:41] go now so
okay okay next
[47:47] we've got a handicap parking sign
request
[47:50] from
Scott Johnson
[47:54] in front of 169 and 3rd Street which is
wheels and Hills appliance store
[47:59] um
up to the console what they want to do
[48:03] it's a city street so they want to put a
handicap sign there
[48:07] would it be like the first parking spot
like there by the library be the first
[48:14] or the second one there I mean because
they have it in the middle of
[48:18] multiple parking spots isn't that kind
of odd
[48:23] so my thing is is like when when I park
on that street I never park in that one
[48:27] right by the library because I feel like
people
[48:30] use that like frequently and I don't
want to be there for five hours and
[48:35] that's the only reason I don't park in
front of that particular one
[48:39] so then what's your recommendation
more sense going on this street on this
[48:45] side too far away over there no you can
maybe you need to be right before do you
[48:52] mind if I chime in on that
she used to have one um on the corner on
[48:56] the corner here and the reason for that
is because that's where the cutout is on
[49:00] the curb so that if someone's coming up
with a scooter or a wheelchair
[49:05] um you know they can get onto the
sidewalk easily
[49:09] um I I would like to see one too we have
customers
[49:12] frequently bring it up
um
[49:15] and
you know I appreciate that that Pam
[49:18] tries not to park in front of the
library for five hours but a lot of
[49:22] other people do so I would be all in
favor of putting the spot there too
[49:28] and yours
the side here either either spot either
[49:33] like in front of the dance studio there
or on Morgan Street I think either would
[49:37] be a good choice
I think our customers would benefit from
[49:40] it also
[49:49] I would say more um
[49:52] Morgan here
where it was before right up at the
[49:58] corner there the closest spot to the
stop sign
[50:07] that emotion well much discussion
only thing that I have to say about that
[50:15] is that if there's one there on the
corner
[50:19] then I would be then I would be for five
hours on
[50:23] Friday and and if somebody's values you
to that spot you're still stuck
[50:30] yeah it's not a private parking no no
it's not a private
[50:35] you know so no matter where it's at she
might not get first dibs on it yeah
[50:39] unless she comes out six in the morning
you can just leave the your car parked
[50:45] there
[50:48] [Music]
[50:51] roll
one place or the other whatever
[50:56] are there any on Third Street currently
any handicap spots anywhere no no I
[51:02] don't think so around the corner by the
post office yeah I know that's there
[51:07] there's one in front of um
plaid moose
[51:13] by that side door that's on the side
street on Morgan yeah it's on Morgan and
[51:18] there's a little one in front of
the vmc here or
[51:25] I don't think that's it
[51:30] I suppose either it doesn't I mean if
it's on
[51:35] Morgan here is on Third Street the first
spot on either one because it really
[51:40] matter
[51:42] I built the Third
you know what with my vote is for third
[51:47] all right we'll make a motion we put one
on Third Street
[51:52] the first spotter do you want to go down
in front of wheels and heels
[51:57] maybe the dance studio
I mean you don't have to go in front of
[52:02] yeah if we go to the dance studio uh
because they really don't get active
[52:06] till later in the day they always park
in the back yeah I just want to be
[52:10] careful that we're not sitting here
putting them in front of certain
[52:14] businesses just because yeah we're
setting a precedent so we have to think
[52:18] about that if we put it right in front
of your business so now another business
[52:22] person
needs needs a handicap spot
[52:27] so that they want one in front of their
business versus at the corners or
[52:32] whatever I just want to consider that
when we're doing this because it's going
[52:36] to set a precedence okay first of all
first of all it's not in front of my
[52:40] business
and the reason that I thought it would
[52:44] be in front of the dance studio is
because that way the parking spot
[52:47] closest to the library is available for
people to come in and drop their books
[52:51] off and leave
that's the only reason I didn't want
[52:54] that there
you know what I mean so when people get
[52:59] out of your vehicles you would get out
of the passenger side right to the
[53:06] sidewalk other people that are driving
are going to be getting out onto the
[53:11] street that have a handicap sticker and
now we're going to be asking them to
[53:17] either walk to an intersection a couple
spots away or try to walk in between
[53:23] cars if there's already a car park there
I mean
[53:28] that's a good point I mean I'm not
trying to bring this out by any means
[53:32] but I think there's
other things we have to look at because
[53:36] yours is really nope
I mean the way you get out of your
[53:40] vehicle you would get right out onto the
sidewalk but a lot of people that are
[53:44] driving and getting out of the driver's
side
[53:48] they're having to go on the street yeah
I'd say do it in front of the library
[53:52] on the corner I'm wandering as as is
there a need for two
[53:57] man
because I mean Val said something that
[54:02] you know Library patrons have asked for
it
[54:07] um so I guess I'd be in favor of or
would support one on Morgan and one on
[54:14] third
one on each Corner up yeah
[54:21] did you have something that you were
going to say Val no I am I was going to
[54:25] ask me a question I was going to ask her
a question but we kind of answered it
[54:28] the thing is if you have two
and I I don't this is way harder than I
[54:35] ever thought it would be if you have two
then if there's no one with a handicap
[54:40] sticker then there's two I know and I
was thinking the same thing because we
[54:45] lost so much parking the way they redid
that and probably only better with one
[54:51] because we did lose parking spots
downtown
[54:57] can you get them back
[55:02] all right
you got a motion
[55:08] we have a second
did you ever finish your motion this was
[55:12] the Motions for
um
[55:16] third
on the corner of third or Morgan
[55:21] I don't care which
one yeah
[55:35] I guess I changed it to Third Street the
Third Street
[55:40] uh in front of the library on the corner
oh at the bump out so south of the bump
[55:46] out on Third Street in front of the
library
[55:50] and that has the wheelchair egress thing
too doesn't it from the sidewalk yeah
[55:58] I'll have a second
[56:05] okay so I can do the first and second
any other
[56:09] comments
[56:13] okay
[Music]
[56:16] no street light that you wouldn't be
able to get your door open again
[56:23] the bump outs on the intersections
anyway I'm like we'll make this decision
[56:27] and then you'll come out I can't
so yeah Dave Teague no
[56:37] yes and
[56:40] street right in front of the library is
that what we're talking now or exact
[56:44] placement yep
[56:48] uh assessment yes
uh Tom Dobson yes
[56:57] Jerry Jones
yes
[57:02] George landite yes
[57:07] and Pam you're abstaining
[57:12] okay
[57:16] motion carries
[57:19] so 7c we have downtown benches
Planeteers garbage cans Etc Seth was
[57:24] going to cover this topic okay
um I asked that this be put on the
[57:30] agenda for discussion after hearing last
week
[57:35] visited with Val a little bit and she'd
been working on a Grant application
[57:42] to help pay for some park benches and or
benches and garbage cans Planters and so
[57:53] forth for the downtown area and over a
call last fall
[58:00] when we approved our budget we did put
in a small amount
[58:05] into the budget for this purpose okay
but now our our grant hopes have fallen
[58:13] through and I just want to know should
we ask staff to
[58:19] um present a plan to us
which would be scaled back
[58:26] without any Grant funds uh to present to
us for the to the council for us to
[58:33] consider
what what do we want to do
[58:39] I personally think it's important that
we do move forward with kind of
[58:45] finishing our downtown
so I I am supportive of that concept but
[58:50] Seth you said somebody was put
last year for this current year yes you
[58:56] know what a month that is it was a
thousand wasn't it or 15 I think it was
[59:01] 15 10 or 15 000. I'm thinking six I
don't know where I'm pulling it okay
[59:08] well you'll have to look at
well my 15 000 but a lot of times what's
[59:16] put in the budget is based on revenue
from a grant so it might be 15 000 in
[59:21] the budget in expenses but then it's
fifteen thousand in revenue from the
[59:25] grant well we put that in as a match to
match okay I was just going to say I
[59:29] don't think we did that when we did
well that or Seth would it make sense I
[59:34] know it asking for like the the Part
Group
[59:38] since they're kind of involved and kind
of have have ideas of what stuff just on
[59:43] the work that was done at Central Park
would it make sense for I know you're
[59:47] part of that group would it make sense
for you guys just to take a look and go
[59:50] well if we did this this and this
you know we need six benches 12 flower
[59:57] pots and four garbage cans to finish
what we think would look good we could I
[1:00:04] think our committee would be interested
in that
[1:00:09] that that's just a thought just to have
well and I know there is discussion as
[1:00:14] to if it's permanent or if it's
removable for snow removal
[1:00:18] because when you start getting benches
and Planters and everything
[1:00:23] I don't know how with the guys with
their snow removal it would be a snow
[1:00:27] bank
yeah
[1:00:30] I would say it's almost well we can't
expect them to yeah hand remove snow
[1:00:35] around all of those and that's why is it
stuff that can be removed in the fall
[1:00:39] yeah I was that's what I was thinking
yes
[1:00:43] I thought about that too is like
I don't know if you should I don't know
[1:00:49] if we need to consider
any more flower pots on everybody we
[1:00:53] already have flower pots downtown
you know if you can do more benches and
[1:00:58] whatever else
well that like or if you put but if you
[1:01:02] put like on the corner you put just like
a big pot of some type I know I mean and
[1:01:06] it looks good by the bench but then we
got like we're paying for all these
[1:01:10] other Planters downtown well maybe that
changes too okay
[1:01:21] the littering and I think seating would
be the next priority
[1:01:26] for however far the budget goes and I
appreciate so much the businesses that
[1:01:32] do have pots already downstairs or
downtown that doesn't unify the area
[1:01:38] those would you know from my perspective
be the kind of priority because
[1:01:43] garbage cans to put your garbage in
would be helpful
[1:01:49] so we'll leave that up to you guys
is that the consensus of the council
[1:01:55] you'd like the park committee to delve
into this a little bit then
[1:02:00] I I just brought that up because I know
you guys worked on the the Central Park
[1:02:05] so you guys kind of have an idea of
well it's kind of like what doesn't
[1:02:10] uniformish kind of yeah and then yeah
like you said you could uniform compared
[1:02:15] to
and Shane you attend those meetings
[1:02:17] correct so you would be there to look
out for your guys with uh snow removal
[1:02:24] because garbage we're not going to want
to remove it in the fall
[1:02:29] on the garbage cans we have six
containers down there now that are
[1:02:32] permanently mounted they're they're your
own and we need more than that then
[1:02:37] Southwest dump Seas right now
we maintain them but they they get
[1:02:43] dumped every week by Southwest
Sanitation so that would just need to be
[1:02:47] looked at and considered if we need more
garbage or if we need to Spruce them up
[1:02:51] or what we need to do to you have six
where are they kinda there's one by
[1:02:59] um
[1:03:02] see there's one by the library
one by the old Bank
[1:03:07] um one in front of the vmc
one by the Plaid moose
[1:03:14] um I think there's one there's still one
by the old Bakery on the old one by the
[1:03:18] alley there by the old Bakery how many
more do we need
[1:03:21] I mean to spend money on garbage
containers to save that money since we
[1:03:25] got six well that's yeah then they can
go with more benches yeah you guys can
[1:03:30] figure that out and honestly if you go
with something
[1:03:33] these garbage cans have been here for
quite a while
[1:03:36] and every time the wind blows we're
chasing the lids down the street so
[1:03:40] there might be something better out
there that's why there's like one or two
[1:03:44] missing Lids now because I most of the
time people bring them back but
[1:03:48] sometimes they don't a couple of them
are in Westbrook right now an hour ago
[1:03:52] so you don't know where they go that's
why I'd like you to be part of it and
[1:03:54] since you do go to those meetings
because you know that stuff and yeah if
[1:03:59] you think the park group would look at
that I would that would be my suggestion
[1:04:03] just to
yeah we can't do that oh Tyler look at
[1:04:07] the funds perfect
[1:04:12] okay I had one more thing for this
section I just want to remind people out
[1:04:19] there in TV land that it's National
Night Out on August 1st
[1:04:23] there's a free will donation or donation
free real donation for the meal that
[1:04:29] they have and it starts at five or six I
can't remember
[1:04:33] five starts at five
so it's a great it's a great fun time
[1:04:39] for a family to come out and enjoy the
park and
[1:04:43] do you want to
touch base on what they're all doing
[1:04:46] Jason or to be down here
no for the oh in your report no okay
[1:04:52] well Jason will touch by on that later
[1:04:58] what a way to get yourself first Jason
he's always been first
[1:05:05] all right
um
[1:05:10] if you have any questions on the calls
this month I'll I'll Advance those
[1:05:15] um I did list out the public nuisance
ordinance update for everybody to kind
[1:05:20] of let them know where we're at
um
[1:05:23] did put out a push this last week to try
to get a few properties in better shape
[1:05:29] before boxcar days
um
[1:05:33] still no word on anything going on with
the 2004 Squad order
[1:05:39] um I have been working on
[1:05:43] a very short term placement holding cell
for loose animals until we find their
[1:05:49] owners we'll continue to get that moving
this week
[1:05:54] um we did have a small kennel that was
donated to us it's not like a real
[1:06:00] strong one but it is a kennel with a
door and we'll put a a phone to a like
[1:06:06] an igloo type shelter that can
be attached to that too so
[1:06:12] um then we'll have shelter at the point
where would we locate that please we're
[1:06:15] located back by the city shop
so on city property it wouldn't be
[1:06:19] something that we would keep a dog more
than
[1:06:22] hopefully more than 12 hours so I think
there'll be much shade
[1:06:27] yes yeah
[1:06:30] um
a couple things that aren't on the list
[1:06:34] uh Narcan was according to or with a new
legislative update all officers have to
[1:06:41] be issued Narcan it's per officer not
per Squad and that's been done also
[1:06:48] another thing that's recently on the
horizon is well not on the horizon Shane
[1:06:53] and I've been discussing the federal
government has decided that we no longer
[1:06:57] qualify to have two Humvee Motor
Vehicles even though that one was
[1:07:02] um
don't uh granted to us as a parts
[1:07:05] vehicle and so they want the parts
vehicle back the problem is is we have
[1:07:11] to ship it to their base in Nebraska
so and we can take whatever parts
[1:07:20] yes but it has to be complete as in
um frame certain things to make it a
[1:07:29] complete vehicle have to be there so
like we can take the ignition switches
[1:07:33] off and which this thing's already been
parted out to the point where the only
[1:07:37] thing left on it is tires basically or
engine parts
[1:07:41] um so it's it's
clumbersome to move it's been sitting
[1:07:47] out in the weeds over the line ponds for
multiple years
[1:07:53] was there a penalty if we don't deliver
it if we say it's not drivable it's not
[1:08:00] it's cost prohibited for us to have to
deliver it back so this came up over a
[1:08:09] year ago and I've been stalling
and contacting like Amy Klobuchar and
[1:08:14] House Representatives to say this is a
burden on our city budget this is
[1:08:20] this vehicle has absolutely no purpose
to the federal government
[1:08:25] and they all answered you right quick
they did we'll look into it and get back
[1:08:30] to you I'm still waiting so
um it's it's been a long process but I
[1:08:35] think we've got to narrowed down to
where we're going to share shipping with
[1:08:38] Nobles County here in the next couple
weeks to help lessen the cost because
[1:08:42] they have one they have to return
there were three other vehicles that
[1:08:49] were from like Douglas County and
um there are two other counties up north
[1:08:55] and I was going to be the fourth to get
on the truck but there wasn't room that
[1:09:00] would have split the cost four ways
instead of two what's the reasoning that
[1:09:04] I want these things back
I have no idea
[1:09:09] they're going to turn them into scrap I
know I mean they're just going to grind
[1:09:12] them into pieces so
um
[1:09:15] it's been a pain to deal with so
but that's coming up and it will be an
[1:09:21] expense to us I'm hoping it's going to
be less than a thousand dollars so
[1:09:30] yeah so
um make sure you get whatever parts that
[1:09:35] are left on there off of it
so we still have parts
[1:09:40] yeah
[Applause]
[1:09:42] um other than that National Night Out is
coming up next Tuesday
[1:09:46] um should be a good time there's
um
[1:09:49] multiple entities that are helping out I
know the Royal group is going to have
[1:09:56] some stuff for kids to do the fire
department will be there again as usual
[1:10:01] um the I think we were heard something
about some face painting for the kids
[1:10:06] going on
um there's going to be some other games
[1:10:11] for them to participate in not to
mention the entertainment for everybody
[1:10:16] in the food so
you have the lineup for the dunking
[1:10:20] booth that would be nice to get out
there so far you're all night no no no I
[1:10:26] I can't cause my back
I serious I I can't the last time I did
[1:10:32] that it
yeah no I
[1:10:37] can't remember what the schedule is so
just curious because sometimes that gets
[1:10:42] some people to come out
we'll make we'll make sure it gets uh
[1:10:47] promoted so and I believe
Medallion Hunt is going to begin too for
[1:10:54] valuable characters is Tara in it see
that's why the medallion for National
[1:10:59] Night Out the clues will get started
here shortly
[1:11:07] so
[1:11:11] more exciting stuff for National light
out
[1:11:15] it's great
so any questions
[1:11:19] it's not 100 degrees I do have a
question for you
[1:11:23] did you ever
um find out anything about the vehicles
[1:11:27] that are parked on Forester East and the
other one because now I hear there's
[1:11:30] something else added to that
so
[1:11:34] Forth Street East is
um
[1:11:38] turned into a very busy
road because of Center Street not being
[1:11:43] accessible and traffic not being able to
cross Center Street and everybody from
[1:11:48] west of Center Street having to go up to
Highway 14 to use only for Street East
[1:11:53] instead of using using Union Street and
State Street so you have three times the
[1:11:57] traffic on 4th Street East currently
happening
[1:12:02] um
I discussed your concerns with people
[1:12:06] talking about parking on both sides of
the street with a few
[1:12:10] residents there and they said that it's
they're purposely legally parking their
[1:12:15] stuff in front of their house to slow
traffic down because people are flying
[1:12:20] up and down Forester East and it's
happening a lot and then I talked to
[1:12:25] some residents some Forest Street East
that were complaining about the traffic
[1:12:29] also and we're happy their neighbors
were parking things so that people had
[1:12:34] to slow down and then I talked to a
couple others that said they they just
[1:12:39] really wish the road construction
project would hurry up and get completed
[1:12:43] so the traffic would diminish so I get
that but that's kind of a hazard the
[1:12:49] people have to slow down no oh it gets
too narrow and I asked
[1:12:55] get myself in trouble here but there's a
pontoon and then there's a big work
[1:12:59] truck
and now there's a camper behind that and
[1:13:02] there's just room for one vehicle to go
through kids on bikes and trikes
[1:13:07] scooting back and forth in and out
and I get it if they had the whole at
[1:13:13] least
a little more of the street would be
[1:13:16] less dangerous or chance to see kids
coming out
[1:13:20] and and to me
many years ago you did an ordinance that
[1:13:25] you can't do that
so we're just allowing people to do it
[1:13:29] because they think that's we're going to
slow traffic down by doing it well
[1:13:32] that's that's it you guys this job to
slow traffic down and I know you're busy
[1:13:36] I'm not trying to give you more to do
don't misunderstand me but it's not a
[1:13:41] Citizens job to park something there to
slow somebody down
[1:13:45] I get that our ordinance does say that
they can only park on the street in one
[1:13:50] spot for 24 hours
but they are legally parked in front of
[1:13:54] their houses
[1:13:57] there is no it isn't like Third Street
or one side of the street has no parking
[1:14:04] that street is designed for parking on
both sides of the street and they are
[1:14:07] legally parked
[1:14:10] in their vehicles closed a little I'm
not talking Vehicles well they're it's
[1:14:13] the campers the pontoons anything is
supposed to only be there for 24 hours
[1:14:18] right trailers anything
right am I checking every 24 hours to
[1:14:24] see if it moved no I'm sorry I'm not
[1:14:28] well I know you drive by quite yeah I
see that
[1:14:33] so we do Patrol trying to keep traffic
down yes are you checking or your other
[1:14:38] fellas that work with you
it shouldn't be too hard to keep track I
[1:14:43] wouldn't think but I I see
a young lad I think it was anyway it's
[1:14:50] hard to tell on a tricycle going down
the middle of the street because you
[1:14:54] didn't want to go in and out of stuff
and then I see these cars coming from
[1:14:59] the swimming pool or whatever
and it seems like they're always in a
[1:15:02] hurry
and to me it it was worrisome is that
[1:15:07] little person going to make it
[1:15:12] he did I'll gladly report
but I don't know I just don't understand
[1:15:18] the reasoning I'm going to park this
here this little traffic down put a
[1:15:22] speed bump out then
anything is better than blocking site
[1:15:27] for other vehicles
[1:15:31] and I did see you following some young
folk in a golf cart one night on that
[1:15:37] street we had a discussion
[1:15:41] thank you
[1:15:45] they weren't 16 right
I didn't think so
[1:15:51] so there's really nothing that can be
done as far as
[1:15:55] you know if it's Vehicles they don't
block the vision as much as a larger
[1:16:03] being a camper a mobile home whatever
that those type of
[1:16:10] vehicles can be requested to not park
there I know it's just requests because
[1:16:15] it's legal form to do it but I think I
see that as probably the biggest safety
[1:16:21] challenge because you can't see
with those larger
[1:16:27] things versus a car I agree with the
safety issue I mean to me that's very
[1:16:33] important if a young child who is trying
to navigate that street ends up getting
[1:16:38] hit because people can't see them well
enough I
[1:16:44] a life is a life
[1:16:50] well I think the public in general it's
not just 4th Street East but
[1:16:56] um should just keep in mind
slow down I mean uh Third Street I see
[1:17:05] some people moving awfully fast on that
and we do have little kids going to the
[1:17:12] pool so just the public you know be
responsible and slow down
[1:17:21] [Music]
[1:17:24] anybody else have anything for Jason
good job Jason thank you thanks
[1:17:34] dad do you want to go
[1:17:39] okay I don't have anything to add to my
report for you but I do want to
[1:17:44] um touch on something that's not Library
related but you are currently sitting in
[1:17:49] officially
Tracy's second National Historic
[1:17:53] register National register of historic
places building I received word this
[1:17:58] morning that our city hall and Armory
buildings are officially on the register
[1:18:04] so yeah so that opens up some um
some avenues for us to
[1:18:12] seek some funding I did submit the
pre-application for the Historical
[1:18:17] Society Grant on Friday and that will be
for the conditions assessment that we I
[1:18:23] believe we suggest we
selected isg to do that project so
[1:18:30] um
I'll just be waiting on feedback on that
[1:18:33] and then I'll have to update it and say
that we're officially on the list and
[1:18:37] not just eligible so
um yeah some kind of uh plaque or
[1:18:42] something I don't know I don't know and
um
[1:18:45] and I
take a little while for us to be on the
[1:18:49] website but I do have you know an
official email
[1:18:52] um
so yeah so that was exciting news today
[1:18:56] for a Monday
um
[1:18:59] anyone have any questions for me on
anything else or that that's fine too
[1:19:04] thank you Anya grant writing excellent
I'm fun seeing all the kids over at the
[1:19:10] library
it's been a it's been a fun summer yeah
[1:19:18] anybody else have anything for Val
good job okay thank you
[1:19:23] Tyler do you want to go
[1:19:29] um well you guys have my second quarter
Financial update I won't go through the
[1:19:33] whole thing
um just wanted to mention uh that you
[1:19:36] guys the city council has six thousand
dollars for donations budgeted and so
[1:19:42] far none of that's been used
um there's 165 dollars there in services
[1:19:46] and charges but that was for travel
expenses
[1:19:50] and also
um it was high in the area of buildings
[1:19:58] and plant
um like small items and that was because
[1:20:02] of the downtown internet and that was
fully Grant funded by the Eda Grant so
[1:20:08] almost have to do a budget amendment
there to adjust for that seventeen
[1:20:12] thousand dollars
so yeah I just wanted to keep it brief
[1:20:17] but if anyone has any questions about
any of the items
[1:20:20] let me know
but the 6000 was the what we approved
[1:20:25] earlier tonight right for the wheels the
night out and the Southwest Niche
[1:20:30] initiative Foundation right
um yes that is correct
[1:20:34] the total only came to five thousand
okay that didn't happen yep the budget I
[1:20:39] forgot because it was in that whole
group oh yep correct the total is only 5
[1:20:44] 000. that's correct we were budgeted for
six uh city council normally in the past
[1:20:49] is always given five
and
[1:20:52] um I think what you guys did tonight
just approves us being able to spend it
[1:20:56] if they request it it's how I understood
it
[1:21:00] the request was for five thousand yep
it's perfect make sure that that's
[1:21:06] updated
the total says six thousand on here but
[1:21:11] it's only five thousand for these three
items on uh
[1:21:15] 2020 366.
so we would then have the ability to
[1:21:20] fund an extra one thousand dollar
project or if the opportunity came along
[1:21:25] because it's in the budget correct
or we could just keep it
[1:21:34] any other questions
[1:21:39] thanks Tyler
Tamara do you want to go
[1:21:50] um
[1:21:53] that microphone close
[1:21:58] because she doesn't have a voice
you got it all up so we um we're a
[1:22:06] little over her budget
and we did a little over our budget for
[1:22:10] um June
um and we are over our budget for the
[1:22:16] um cash flow
so that's an awesome thing um Fourth of
[1:22:21] July was good
um see we did um we had our Aloha night
[1:22:28] it um
we probably did 50 60 people Jeff you
[1:22:33] think
we have 50 60 people for Aloha night yep
[1:22:39] um down from last year probably about
half because of all the other stuff that
[1:22:44] was going on
in the area
[1:22:48] um otherwise we're just kind of plugging
along so
[1:22:52] anybody has any questions or
comments
[1:22:59] ordering some warm honey
[1:23:07] always selling aren't you always
thanks Cameron
[1:23:12] Jeff
where are you
[1:23:17] a couple things that were at the top of
my report just wanted to to bring it to
[1:23:21] the attention of the council um did
anybody have any questions on the email
[1:23:25] that
that Shane sent out dealing with the
[1:23:29] Orchard Lanes taxes or the lack of paid
taxes over the past four years we
[1:23:34] approved that earlier didn't we to pay
the back taxes plus this just did we
[1:23:40] didn't know if there was any if there
was any questions that went along with
[1:23:43] it I mean it was based on about Revenue
brought in
[1:23:46] and so I'm it's it's being taken care of
I don't know honestly don't know where
[1:23:50] the oversight came from I I couldn't
tell you it doesn't really matter where
[1:23:54] the oversight came from the money was
going to be paid for out of the uh
[1:23:57] out of the housing fund which would be
the correct place that that would come
[1:24:00] out of
there's no questions with that
[1:24:04] um the industrial park potential project
that we have with isg right now
[1:24:09] um so we were budgeted this year for uh
um just a little less than twenty
[1:24:14] thousand dollars for the project that
could be going on with the industrial
[1:24:19] park which would be to the
which would be to the north of the ball
[1:24:23] fields the softball fields or of the the
um the Minnesota state whatever the the
[1:24:30] the crews that come out of there
um so ISD has been working on something
[1:24:34] with us they are doing up to five phases
I believe is what it is and for that the
[1:24:39] cost and I just wanted to talk a little
bit about I know you know about that but
[1:24:43] I just want to talk a little bit about
where that money or what the potential
[1:24:46] project consists of so I found out
um a couple days ago or late last week
[1:24:53] that we are allotted for that arpa money
of uh it's it's two hundred thousand
[1:24:57] dollars right at two hundred thousand
dollars the arbor money was is the money
[1:25:01] that the county is holding from us it's
Federal money that came into the uh um
[1:25:06] the county and then they disperse it
there you know based on basically on on
[1:25:09] population so our allotment was two
hundred thousand dollars
[1:25:14] um the reason I wanted to bring that up
because and there's nothing that needs
[1:25:17] to be decided on tonight but uh with
that 200 000 I found out through the
[1:25:22] city or the County Commissioners that
that money can be used for what what it
[1:25:27] can be used for I just got a uh just a a
just an email from from Rick Anderson
[1:25:33] and it's it's for infrastructure it
can't be for buildings it can't be for
[1:25:37] anything new it's got to be
infrastructure sewer water
[1:25:40] um streets that type of thing so
essentially we have 200 000 out there
[1:25:45] that needs to be used by the end of
2025. so we got two and a half years to
[1:25:50] use this money
um
[1:25:52] where this is going is is you had all
receive the same email from the
[1:25:56] individual that was uh talking about the
museum and the and I think a lot of you
[1:26:02] know the concerns of the museum that is
in the county obviously and in the city
[1:26:07] limits some of it
um that they don't really have running
[1:26:11] water out there they've got a cistern
they carry water from one place to the
[1:26:15] other
they have a septic system because you
[1:26:18] know and we can't afford to do any kind
of of uh um I think the estimate is just
[1:26:24] a guesstimate what it was is to put
sewer out there a sewer line to be a
[1:26:28] quarter of a million dollars you know
obviously we don't have that but for
[1:26:32] twenty thousand dollars and that is just
uh just a guesstimate so far also with a
[1:26:36] couple of bids that we got from a
um a plumbing firm and then also a
[1:26:41] underground digging firm that for right
around twenty thousand dollars we could
[1:26:45] put water out there I found out that
this arpa money can be used for that
[1:26:51] um I was also told that they would do
anything they could since it is in the
[1:26:56] county the the museum that uh depending
on what we gave out of that fund to put
[1:27:01] water out there
um that they possibly would put some
[1:27:05] money into it also I've also been in
contact with the the uh Museum itself
[1:27:11] and they possibly would be able to put
some money into the into the projects it
[1:27:15] is theirs but as you have you as you've
seen out there they've got a lot of
[1:27:19] projects that are already going on out
there they put a lot of money a lot of
[1:27:21] time a lot of effort out there
um we don't need to I I'm not ready for
[1:27:27] it yet tonight but it's something that I
want you to at least think about because
[1:27:30] when I do come back whether it's in
three weeks or five weeks to to talk
[1:27:33] about that I'd like you know decision
it's it's the city council's money
[1:27:37] there's two hundred thousand dollars
it's yours you can do what you want with
[1:27:42] it you know Shane and I have had
discussion Eric and I had discussions on
[1:27:45] it but
um and again this is this is me throwing
[1:27:48] my opinion in there again but uh
putting twenty thousand dollars to to
[1:27:53] updating the museum that brings so much
to the community for twenty thousand for
[1:27:58] ten percent of that money
in my opinion it would be a good place
[1:28:02] especially if we can get some money out
of the museum itself and out of the
[1:28:06] county
would we need to do the 20 000 then we
[1:28:10] we don't know what we don't know what
the exact costs are going to be we got
[1:28:13] some we would have to be Jerry we'd have
to be a little bit flexible in the
[1:28:18] number because uh the just for instance
it was ten thousand six hundred dollars
[1:28:22] to um for the drilling the underground
drilling from the Dairy Queen site
[1:28:26] wasn't it wasn't that chain
[Music]
[1:28:29] um to the where they would need it out
there that's if they don't run into any
[1:28:33] problems
um the plumbing was anywhere from six to
[1:28:37] eight thousand dollars you know so there
are some some variables that we won't we
[1:28:41] wouldn't know until we got into the
into the project itself
[1:28:46] so it's it's it's something that uh I
wanted to put onto your plate so you can
[1:28:50] at least think about it you come back
and say absolutely not I didn't promise
[1:28:54] anybody anything I just did the
groundwork with the county and with the
[1:28:58] museum to just to discuss it because you
all were a part of that that email that
[1:29:04] came out from a representative from the
from the museum
[1:29:09] okay
any questions
[1:29:12] anything I always do
I just don't want because we've already
[1:29:18] said that that arpa money was going to
go for
[1:29:21] the industrial park out there yep I
don't want us also start dipping in
[1:29:26] where it comes that we don't have enough
money to do that project out there I've
[1:29:32] been a part of that out there and the
project itself out there is is could
[1:29:36] it's you know the five phases that are
right now and it's down the road
[1:29:41] um but remember we're also going to be
applying for a uh
[1:29:45] um it's it's a it's a deed grant that
for industrial parks so they put in you
[1:29:50] know in case somebody comes in for
manufacturing or for uh storage or
[1:29:55] something like that there are some
matching deed grants which we can use
[1:29:59] federal money for the state that that
saved money and none of that money could
[1:30:05] be used to fix the bathrooms up in this
building here at all no that's that's it
[1:30:09] that would be a part of the building
itself it doesn't anything for building
[1:30:12] this is all basically I'll say it's
Underground
[1:30:15] program
very very limited some of that go there
[1:30:19] very limited I'll fix the bathroom
but we'd really like to do that you know
[1:30:23] we the the city's been talking about
this well before any of you were on the
[1:30:27] console obviously way before me 40 years
ago when they plotted that out out there
[1:30:31] probably in the I'm going to say the 80s
maybe they plotted that land out of
[1:30:35] there put it into two and one and two
acre lots out there we would do what we
[1:30:40] could out there but we'd also want to
get the money the matching 180 000 or
[1:30:46] 200 000 is not going to make that much
of a difference Jerry it's it's we would
[1:30:49] have to have some money coming in from
someplace else to do any kind of no I
[1:30:53] understand that but it's like anything
when you start taking a little for this
[1:30:58] because it's just a little then well
we'll just take a little for this and
[1:31:03] I'll sign that you add up all those
Littles absolutely yeah well Jerry I
[1:31:07] share your concerns and I'm a big
supporter of
[1:31:11] infrastructure for that industrial park
because that is so important to our
[1:31:17] hopes of expanding our tax base and
creating more jobs but I do feel really
[1:31:25] strongly about the about the wheels
Museum I mean just think about you don't
[1:31:30] have running water I know we've got
people hauling water to water plants or
[1:31:37] just clean things and it's just
the water and I don't know if twenty
[1:31:43] thousand dollars is the right number but
something something for the wheels to
[1:31:49] help them get water see what it comes to
okay
[1:31:57] anything else that uh that you'd like to
to talk about that's on my report
[1:32:02] Burgers bands and Brews we got two
checks in today
[1:32:05] I got two more checks in today we're
missing three of the money that was uh
[1:32:10] for sponsorships we got the two more ins
we're only missing one right now so
[1:32:13] that's going to be very successful for
the Tracy Area Community Foundation as
[1:32:18] they're going to be able to give some
money away again this year because uh
[1:32:21] out of the right now and we'll get that
other thousand dollars but we had we
[1:32:25] were up to just shy of ten thousand
dollars in in sponsorships and we only
[1:32:30] have one of those left it's just like
last year it's taken some time to people
[1:32:34] are busy in the summertime so
nice good job yeah that's nice to nice
[1:32:40] to get that taken care of without me
begging too much
[1:32:44] any other questions you got for me
thank you Jeff thank you
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