1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,240 foreign 2 00:00:04,820 --> 00:00:08,110 [Music] 3 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:24,660 so I'll just give you an update on uh the admin position we have three 4 00:00:21,779 --> 00:00:29,760 applications to date for that we got one Friday so that brings us up to three 5 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:32,880 um when does that close again it closes Friday 6 00:00:30,779 --> 00:00:38,640 it's next Friday or last Friday coming Friday okay so this week yeah 7 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,379 you know if you had any 8 00:00:42,540 --> 00:00:45,379 discussion on 9 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:54,180 Friday and see what we want to do from there I guess so 10 00:00:51,660 --> 00:00:58,920 um the the last time we did it do we have that score sheet that we used yeah 11 00:00:56,879 --> 00:01:05,939 we have I have all that yet I just got to find them so because then we could 12 00:01:03,359 --> 00:01:11,159 I suppose we should probably go through them all and all three of them 13 00:01:09,900 --> 00:01:14,939 well some people wait till the last minute 14 00:01:13,020 --> 00:01:18,900 there may be eight by the end of Friday eight or ten by the end of Friday so 15 00:01:16,799 --> 00:01:23,240 we've had two for a couple weeks now and we just got one on Friday so I don't 16 00:01:21,119 --> 00:01:23,240 know 17 00:01:24,180 --> 00:01:28,100 so that's where that's at um 18 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:36,960 um cool I I did put an update in there um 19 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:41,640 he's leaking pretty bad if you read my report we got it slowed down a little 20 00:01:39,479 --> 00:01:47,340 bit but that's the liners will do that was a good 21 00:01:43,740 --> 00:01:49,400 decision to make on replacing that so um 22 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:55,979 so you've been working on some code enforcement 23 00:01:52,939 --> 00:02:01,320 mainly on the noxious weed side lately it's kind of my focus but 24 00:01:58,799 --> 00:02:05,700 um we sent 26 week notices we got 13 complied and 13 enforced by the city 25 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:10,739 um building codes we have sent three in 26 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:15,840 2023 we had zero complied on the new round but we had two that complied from 27 00:02:13,140 --> 00:02:18,959 2022 so that's a little bit of a win there so 28 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:23,400 and then Jason provided us nuisance updates with his report 29 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:28,319 um other than that I've spent a lot of 30 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:33,959 money with early money too but a lot of time with PFA and uh real Development 31 00:02:31,319 --> 00:02:37,260 coming up with a plan for this project with the delays and PSA it's been a 32 00:02:36,420 --> 00:02:41,180 rough few months Kyle's going to attest to 33 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:45,300 that too but trying to get everything organized to 34 00:02:43,620 --> 00:02:48,420 make sure we can use all the grant money and time for 35 00:02:47,459 --> 00:02:54,060 um the project for the RDS cut off which is 36 00:02:51,900 --> 00:02:57,660 the end of September so but I think we got a plan together so 37 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:01,860 um took a lot of time a lot of meetings to 38 00:02:59,340 --> 00:03:04,560 go through that and um 39 00:03:02,640 --> 00:03:11,400 other than that we're doing some maintenance for German trees and some 40 00:03:08,180 --> 00:03:14,519 Boulevard streets uh four Street East is one of them State Street did a little 41 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:19,739 bit of work there just gonna kind of work around as we can get a group big 42 00:03:16,379 --> 00:03:24,920 enough to do another round so um probably gonna be doing some Street 43 00:03:21,239 --> 00:03:24,920 Maintenance here pretty quick here again 44 00:03:25,019 --> 00:03:31,500 we did have 70 000 budgeted for this year for 45 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:35,760 we got some alleys we want to repair and some crack ceiling to do so 46 00:03:33,659 --> 00:03:41,700 those people lined up already in the crack ceiling not yet I got 47 00:03:39,599 --> 00:03:45,260 called out to a few different contractors for some cold so 48 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:57,720 any questions on my report with the dry weather uh will that 49 00:03:53,940 --> 00:04:03,299 preclude and need to spray for mosquitoes again or or well we're 50 00:04:00,599 --> 00:04:08,760 planning on doing it this week um they are 51 00:04:05,519 --> 00:04:11,340 some of the evenings get kind of bad but um we're going to do it this week and 52 00:04:09,959 --> 00:04:15,000 then I'll kind of take care of National Night Out 53 00:04:12,659 --> 00:04:21,600 so our plan to do it Wednesday or Thursday I'm not weather's kind of 54 00:04:17,100 --> 00:04:25,320 changes a lot so I can't say for sure so I'll likely do it this week and then 55 00:04:23,699 --> 00:04:29,759 probably not until Labor Day will reassess before Labor Day 56 00:04:27,660 --> 00:04:34,320 um the last couple years I think we've sprayed a week before Labor Day so yeah 57 00:04:32,100 --> 00:04:39,419 I can't see why you'd want to do it in the park I just haven't seen many 58 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:44,220 mosquitoes around life they come all late they're not too bad during the day 59 00:04:40,979 --> 00:04:46,680 but they're coming out late if we do get some more rain they might come around 60 00:04:45,479 --> 00:04:51,740 but I know we're just going to kind of 61 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,740 assess it as the time comes so 62 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,020 anything else 63 00:05:00,060 --> 00:05:09,180 are you keeping that how are you keeping up with everything with wearing two hats 64 00:05:04,940 --> 00:05:11,780 prioritizing a lot but it's working all right though 65 00:05:10,199 --> 00:05:17,699 yeah so far there's really busy weeks and some weeks 66 00:05:15,300 --> 00:05:21,660 aren't so bad but it's this week's been a challenge and so was 67 00:05:19,380 --> 00:05:24,660 last week but we'll get through it just uh 68 00:05:22,860 --> 00:05:29,820 a lot of contract stuff with the project and then Vietnamese 69 00:05:27,259 --> 00:05:36,840 reimbursement sent in for like the petrol fund and PFA and RD 70 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:39,960 the line County now I got them involved too so 71 00:05:38,039 --> 00:05:44,160 just billing them out so you can get everything in the funds before we get 72 00:05:42,660 --> 00:05:48,780 the payments out through the contractors so 73 00:05:46,199 --> 00:05:52,919 a lot of stuff to organize I guess so but one way or another I'd be involved 74 00:05:50,639 --> 00:05:57,780 with it no matter what so well we appreciate you giving up the old College 75 00:05:54,840 --> 00:06:01,020 try yeah so I know some things when you slip 76 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,560 through the cracks but I'm trying to get the many done 77 00:06:04,919 --> 00:06:07,759 that's all I have 78 00:06:15,180 --> 00:06:23,419 do we need to do um do I do the resolution that Tyler has 79 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,419 under his staff report 80 00:06:38,819 --> 00:06:45,319 I don't know where it's at though I'll make the motion that we approve 81 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:52,560 resolution 2023-65 that's the budget amendment 82 00:06:49,020 --> 00:06:52,560 number two yeah 83 00:06:53,940 --> 00:06:56,840 do we have a second 84 00:07:01,620 --> 00:07:05,720 first and second any further discussion 85 00:07:05,940 --> 00:07:14,160 profile please George landday hi 86 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:20,300 hi Tom Dobson are you still there 87 00:07:15,979 --> 00:07:25,220 assessment yes big Peaks all right gener yes and Foreman hi 88 00:07:30,419 --> 00:07:34,220 Ray do you want to move on to the audit 89 00:07:34,819 --> 00:07:41,599 with art oh yeah let's do valve first yes it is 90 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:53,580 I set all these up here so as you know we have five thousand dollars budgeted 91 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:58,319 this year for a public art piece and we are working with Sammy Jo Miller who's 92 00:07:55,440 --> 00:08:04,380 here with us this evening to do the project and she has done some research 93 00:08:01,860 --> 00:08:08,400 over the past several months um talking to the community about what 94 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:13,860 types of art they enjoy what types of art they would like to see in Tracy 95 00:08:10,919 --> 00:08:20,240 and so she's put together three possibilities for you to consider and I 96 00:08:16,740 --> 00:08:23,400 will let Sammy Joe talk more about those [Applause] 97 00:08:21,780 --> 00:08:26,940 if you guys haven't noticed I'm a really nervous public speaker so if I'm talking 98 00:08:25,199 --> 00:08:33,320 too fast just slow me down I can do small groups this is intimidating we're 99 00:08:30,180 --> 00:08:37,740 not that you're doing well sure so yeah as far as 100 00:08:35,820 --> 00:08:42,140 basic questions I know you guys just got this tonight so if you need a minute to 101 00:08:39,180 --> 00:08:42,140 look it over that's okay 102 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:50,760 um we haven't decided it is all still in the planning process we haven't moved 103 00:08:48,300 --> 00:08:54,839 forward with anything all we've done so far is I've kind of set up little art 104 00:08:52,980 --> 00:08:58,200 stations at different events and throughout town and to gather 105 00:08:57,180 --> 00:09:03,120 information about what the community wanted to see so these are just basic 106 00:09:00,420 --> 00:09:06,839 proposals and ideas for projects we can pursue further so there's no budget for 107 00:09:05,459 --> 00:09:11,339 any of these projects yet we haven't gone into design it's just kind of what 108 00:09:09,300 --> 00:09:17,040 would the city council like to see us go for is where we're at now 109 00:09:14,220 --> 00:09:22,260 and are we talking of um 110 00:09:18,060 --> 00:09:25,860 just occasional short-term seasonal type of art projects are you talking 111 00:09:23,899 --> 00:09:28,399 permanent this would be a permanent installation 112 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:36,480 so the three that we've kind of narrowed it down to based off of the community 113 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:40,260 responses is the ghost advertisement which would be something like sample one 114 00:09:38,279 --> 00:09:43,800 on the left on the bottom um and the idea would be to kind of 115 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:47,160 represent the Red Rooster Cafe because people mention that a lot when talking 116 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,980 about what they liked about growing up in Tracy or being a part of the Tracy 117 00:09:48,779 --> 00:09:53,399 community so that could be something that we could represent having been a 118 00:09:51,779 --> 00:09:57,480 part of the community by doing a ghost advertisement on either the side of the 119 00:09:55,620 --> 00:10:01,760 library or on the side of another building that would be easily visible 120 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:06,300 and accessible from the downtown area the second project would be a sound 121 00:10:04,500 --> 00:10:11,279 garden which would be like sample two not exactly like that I'm kind of have 122 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:14,580 some other plans but it would be interactive a lot of people with small 123 00:10:13,380 --> 00:10:18,779 children would like to see something that could be interactive or be 124 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:22,019 functional in some way and then sample three which I think could be a really 125 00:10:20,580 --> 00:10:25,860 excellent addition to downtown right over where the library is over I don't 126 00:10:24,540 --> 00:10:28,920 know the names of the streets but the one where we were talking about having 127 00:10:27,180 --> 00:10:32,279 parking on um and that would go over over the top 128 00:10:30,839 --> 00:10:36,120 of the street so we'd have to take into account measurements and the wind down 129 00:10:34,740 --> 00:10:39,839 here would have to be taken into account as well so there's there's a few 130 00:10:38,339 --> 00:10:43,860 problems to be solved with each one of the projects but we haven't delved into 131 00:10:41,580 --> 00:10:47,459 that yet and we also are exploring the option of having um the southwest 132 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:50,579 Minnesota Arts board um they have public art grants that 133 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:55,019 could go up to twenty thousand dollars with a certain percentage match which we 134 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:59,339 would not exceed what has already been put towards the project so if our budget 135 00:10:57,180 --> 00:11:03,060 our budget exceeds what you guys have put forward towards the project already 136 00:11:01,260 --> 00:11:06,079 we would then pursue a grant with Southwest Minnesota 137 00:11:06,290 --> 00:11:12,839 [Music] what was the reason that we had a stop 138 00:11:10,380 --> 00:11:19,320 putting the banners across the road win in the power company not allowing it 139 00:11:16,680 --> 00:11:23,640 well we used to even do a banner across Highway 14 and then we were told we 140 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:28,079 could not do that that's why I was asking why yeah I can't 141 00:11:25,620 --> 00:11:32,339 do that anymore for the ghost advertisement 142 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:35,399 so there's a couple downtown that you can still see can't you on a couple 143 00:11:34,019 --> 00:11:39,720 buildings for the old advertisements yeah I think 144 00:11:37,740 --> 00:11:43,500 they're kind of hidden on the top on the top of them could those like be touched 145 00:11:41,820 --> 00:11:47,399 up a little bit yeah we could certainly revisit those if that's something that 146 00:11:45,839 --> 00:11:51,320 you'd be interested in looking at as part of this project because it's 147 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:57,000 something that's already there I mean you have to look at it when 148 00:11:54,000 --> 00:12:01,200 that's it it's on is it on the old bank it's on there's 149 00:11:59,399 --> 00:12:06,240 part of one on I don't know where but I know I've seen one in town 150 00:12:03,300 --> 00:12:10,560 if you look downtown look up on one of the buildings because there's like an 151 00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:15,240 old sign for I don't remember which old business it was but they had one 152 00:12:12,899 --> 00:12:17,480 that's painted up it was all painted up there 153 00:12:18,060 --> 00:12:23,420 we could certainly look into what's available in town for sure 154 00:12:23,700 --> 00:12:30,720 oh everybody will be driving downtown after this I'm gonna do the same thing 155 00:12:27,899 --> 00:12:33,620 and take that way out of town his head so he knows 156 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:41,940 a little bit okay when you're coming down Third Street or South Street Third 157 00:12:39,839 --> 00:12:45,240 Street is it's from it's on the north side of the building 158 00:12:43,079 --> 00:12:48,240 okay well if we can figure out what the initial advertisement was for if anyone 159 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:52,200 has an older picture I know the museum has a couple of pictures from Ghost 160 00:12:50,700 --> 00:12:55,920 advertisements that used to be visible downtown I don't know how many of them 161 00:12:54,180 --> 00:12:59,820 are buildings that are still standing or I don't know enough about the history 162 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:05,100 yet so I'm still learning but I know Tracy has had quite a few of them 163 00:13:02,820 --> 00:13:11,220 sound garden wouldn't that be something like wind chimes or a xylophone I'm 164 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:13,980 thinking more of like the in the picture they have it in tunnels so I was 165 00:13:12,660 --> 00:13:18,420 thinking more of like tunnels that went underground and came back up and then so 166 00:13:16,860 --> 00:13:22,019 the sound would travel through them and kind of make it like a matching game 167 00:13:20,100 --> 00:13:26,579 this is like the concept I've been toying with so this one would have say a 168 00:13:24,660 --> 00:13:29,459 pink flower and then the other end of that would have another pink flower 169 00:13:27,779 --> 00:13:32,700 whereas there would be maybe several flowers in the sound garden and to hear 170 00:13:31,139 --> 00:13:37,019 your friend you would have to be at the matching end so there would be some kind 171 00:13:35,459 --> 00:13:40,920 of matching element to the interactive piece as well 172 00:13:39,660 --> 00:13:44,100 as the sound because then they can talk to each other once they've matched up 173 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,860 the flowers and it would kind of look like a little bit of a tube garden with 174 00:13:45,779 --> 00:13:52,019 little flowers that's the concept I'm toying with right 175 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:55,740 now for that oh sanitary is that then um well it should be at a distance like 176 00:13:54,420 --> 00:13:59,339 they have them at parks now where they have like the microphones or they're 177 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:02,940 like a big how would you say like a funnel almost and then they have a mesh 178 00:14:01,680 --> 00:14:06,120 screen over it so the kids don't throw rocks down there 179 00:14:04,500 --> 00:14:10,800 um there are a few things with that but it's not meant to like put their mouth 180 00:14:08,220 --> 00:14:15,060 up against it should be larger than that um this is just a sample that I pulled 181 00:14:12,540 --> 00:14:21,060 of an idea so we can we can visit those issues certainly I'm ready 182 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:26,220 I want to steer away from anything with mallets 183 00:14:22,380 --> 00:14:33,899 um generally I have children so Emmy Joe could you just um 184 00:14:28,620 --> 00:14:37,200 review with us the public surfing yeah um so with the first one it's pretty 185 00:14:35,339 --> 00:14:40,019 simple I asked that question why and what would you like to see in the 186 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:43,680 Tracy community we had people answer the survey online 187 00:14:41,940 --> 00:14:49,199 some people filled it out in person when they were chatting with me and they were 188 00:14:46,740 --> 00:14:52,920 able to to check any and all boxes that applied for that so a lot of them check 189 00:14:50,699 --> 00:14:59,040 murals and sculptures and then a few of them picked interactive or functional so 190 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:03,480 um not like 65 prefer murals and 70 prefer sculpture 65 prefer both and then 191 00:15:02,100 --> 00:15:06,779 an additional five percent prefer sculptures 192 00:15:04,740 --> 00:15:10,860 um and then when I asked about the locations and subjects and ideas it was 193 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:15,600 more of like a tell me about your experience in Tracy what's your favorite 194 00:15:12,300 --> 00:15:20,600 place to be in Tracy and um what is your favorite memory of being a Community 195 00:15:17,699 --> 00:15:25,019 member in Tracy so I asked kind of more broad questions to get kind of a sense 196 00:15:23,399 --> 00:15:29,459 of how they felt about it and where they would like to see these things 197 00:15:26,639 --> 00:15:34,019 um and a lot of people mentioned the parks in general not just Central Park 198 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:37,500 so that's an idea to explore too um specifically mentioned the 199 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:40,980 um baseball park that's over by where you guys are putting the industrial area 200 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:45,660 they had mentioned into seeing something over there 201 00:15:42,899 --> 00:15:49,019 but yeah that was basically it a lot of people mentioned boxcar days that is 202 00:15:47,339 --> 00:15:53,160 also their favorite part about living in Tracy so 203 00:15:50,519 --> 00:15:56,699 the in-person surveys were they done at the library 204 00:15:54,660 --> 00:16:01,260 um I did so I was at um Burgers beers and Brews for one of them um what was 205 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:04,019 our first one the Women's Expo I was at that one I did a couple of artist 206 00:16:02,519 --> 00:16:07,920 demonstrations at the library where people came in and chatted with me and 207 00:16:06,420 --> 00:16:11,579 then I was outside the library a couple of days and had some people come up and 208 00:16:10,139 --> 00:16:17,160 say hello some people hollered from their cars so I brought them a survey 209 00:16:14,519 --> 00:16:22,860 would it helped had more of a cross-section to have an open house or 210 00:16:20,519 --> 00:16:26,339 something at the library or city hall or something absolutely if we want to take 211 00:16:24,300 --> 00:16:30,660 an Avenue to gather more information we certainly can because my the amount of 212 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:33,899 people I had fill out the survey in general was not high it was not what I 213 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:38,160 was expecting um but I got some really good responses 214 00:16:35,820 --> 00:16:45,180 from the people that did participate visited with some people teachers in our 215 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:50,220 school system I have not yet we kind of started over the summer so I had it I'm 216 00:16:46,860 --> 00:16:54,899 sure okay well that'd be an idea oh yeah I think there's some really cool 217 00:16:52,259 --> 00:17:02,459 ideas here but if we can somehow get more people from the public 218 00:16:57,380 --> 00:17:04,459 to weigh in or get their ideas and um um 219 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:10,040 I think it's a good thing to do in our town 220 00:17:11,670 --> 00:17:17,000 [Music] thank you 221 00:17:17,220 --> 00:17:22,980 all right now the audit 222 00:17:21,540 --> 00:17:26,699 all right um just because I'm new this year and so 223 00:17:25,140 --> 00:17:30,419 I haven't seen many of your faces my name is Sarah oberlove I'm with an 224 00:17:28,799 --> 00:17:36,600 accounting firm out of Redwood Falls and we did the audit for the first year in 225 00:17:32,100 --> 00:17:41,100 2022 or for 2022 here and 2023 audit and so basically I put the books in front of 226 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:46,020 all you guys that you have two different booklets the larger 227 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:49,500 reams of paper is the actual audit report that's what we'll get submitted 228 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:53,880 to the state and that's what goes in with the single audit all of those 229 00:17:50,940 --> 00:17:58,799 pieces the other book has um just a really high level overview comparison 230 00:17:55,919 --> 00:18:03,000 information being it's only our first year I only had two years worth of data 231 00:18:00,900 --> 00:18:06,900 so it's not a lot of information in there we will build on that over over 232 00:18:05,039 --> 00:18:10,740 the course but um just kind of gives you like I said a 233 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:15,900 much higher view so we'll just briefly touch base a couple of the pages in the 234 00:18:12,900 --> 00:18:19,020 actual audit give you that overall audit opinion and such and then we'll go into 235 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:24,000 the smaller book and and kind of highlight that over that high level 236 00:18:21,419 --> 00:18:28,260 so if you go in in the in the larger one on page it's page two at the top it's 237 00:18:26,220 --> 00:18:31,559 about seven physical pages in after you've skipped through some of the table 238 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:35,460 contents Pages um that starts with the independent 239 00:18:32,700 --> 00:18:39,559 Auditor's report letter to give you a second to find the right 240 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,559 page 241 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:52,200 number it's two at the very top but it's the one that starts in the letterhead so 242 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:59,059 it's the one in the very thick book it's in the thick book yeah what five 243 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:59,059 pages in every year five or six pages in 244 00:19:00,360 --> 00:19:05,160 um so basically this this gives you the 245 00:19:03,539 --> 00:19:09,000 independent Auditor's report letter this gives you your opinion on the financial 246 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:13,799 statements uh the first section there starts with the opinion 247 00:19:10,919 --> 00:19:17,039 um 2021 audit years we move that opinion to the very top 248 00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:20,640 um our standards decided it's the what you guys are looking for so we want to 249 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:23,340 start with that used to be hidden at the very bottom 250 00:19:21,780 --> 00:19:28,320 um basically what those two paragraphs tell you is you guys have an unmodified 251 00:19:25,020 --> 00:19:32,340 or clean audit opinion for 2022 we feel the financial statements are fairly 252 00:19:29,820 --> 00:19:35,700 presented in all material respects um the next section there gives the 253 00:19:34,140 --> 00:19:40,140 basis of opinion the financial statements are prepared in accordance 254 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:43,860 with government auditing standards uh and then the next section there the 255 00:19:41,820 --> 00:19:47,640 responsibility of management management the city is responsible for the 256 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:52,020 preparation and fair presentation of the financial statements so we do prepare 257 00:19:49,919 --> 00:19:55,860 your financial statements for you um which is a very common thing out of 258 00:19:53,460 --> 00:19:59,940 about 55 cities I audit I only have one I don't prepare financial statements for 259 00:19:58,260 --> 00:20:03,059 um so in small entities it's common but it's a great reminder that even though I 260 00:20:01,799 --> 00:20:08,820 prepared him and brought them to you tonight they're your financials not mine 261 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:13,380 um the top of Page Three gives the responsibility for the auditor and our 262 00:20:10,679 --> 00:20:17,340 responsibility what that long section is telling you is we're responsible for the 263 00:20:14,940 --> 00:20:20,820 opinion so again you're responsible for the financial statements I'm responsible 264 00:20:19,260 --> 00:20:25,380 for the opinion um in the ideal world if if someone on 265 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:30,000 staff is actually preparing the entire financial statement basically we just 266 00:20:27,900 --> 00:20:34,860 overview that and then throw those those opinion letters in there 267 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:39,059 um so that kind of highlights the audit opinion letter if you skip way to the 268 00:20:37,380 --> 00:20:44,880 back there's a couple more letters in here 269 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:49,440 um on page 93 um so I think it's about 102 pages long 270 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:55,080 or something so it's gonna hit almost to the very back 271 00:20:50,820 --> 00:20:58,559 um 93 is the report on internal control um and what that tells you is we don't 272 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:01,919 audit your internal control internal control structure but we have to 273 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:05,460 evaluate it in the audit process and anything that comes to our attention 274 00:21:03,120 --> 00:21:09,720 must be communicated to you um there's two findings related to 275 00:21:07,140 --> 00:21:13,860 internal control the first finding they're going to be on page probably 90 276 00:21:11,580 --> 00:21:21,240 skip back aways because we have the single audit stuff in here on 97 the 277 00:21:17,820 --> 00:21:24,600 bottom of 98 in the top of 99. um the first finding is the the fact 278 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:28,380 that the city did not prepare the financial statements again in that 279 00:21:26,220 --> 00:21:31,860 perfect world you would have a larger staff that actually prepares the 280 00:21:30,059 --> 00:21:36,780 financial statements um and then on top of page 99 the second 281 00:21:34,500 --> 00:21:41,280 finding is the lack of segregation of duties or lack of Separation within the 282 00:21:38,820 --> 00:21:46,740 accounting Ideal World you'd have a staff of eight to ten accounting staff 283 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:50,280 so you do have a much better internal control structure than the city with the 284 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:54,720 Standalone person um but but you still don't have that 285 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:58,980 true separation in all of the functions there's a 286 00:21:56,039 --> 00:22:04,440 um you know one hand is doing multiple tasks still along the way 287 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:08,880 um how do you recommend a city of our seismic 288 00:22:05,580 --> 00:22:11,520 handle that so we're not supposed to say there's really nothing you can do about 289 00:22:10,260 --> 00:22:17,460 it ultimately you need to I mean really you 290 00:22:13,919 --> 00:22:23,159 need to wait cost benefit and so to truly eliminate some of those is it 291 00:22:19,860 --> 00:22:26,460 worth the cost in your eyes I like I said I have one city that had they 292 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:30,720 prepare their own financial statements they hire another accounting firm that 293 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:34,380 does basically a pre-audit prepares the financial statements for them they act 294 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:37,860 as management we come in and do the audit 295 00:22:35,419 --> 00:22:42,120 they're essentially paying for two audits because just because another 296 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:46,440 audit firm does it doesn't mean my my work changes 297 00:22:43,799 --> 00:22:51,059 um you know so in your eyes is a second audit fee worth not having that 298 00:22:49,500 --> 00:22:55,559 finding um the same thing with the Staffing you 299 00:22:53,100 --> 00:23:00,960 know is another three to four staff people that you probably really don't 300 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:05,159 need full-time worth getting rid of the finding 301 00:23:02,940 --> 00:23:10,620 however in your opinion I think in the past we've made some 302 00:23:07,380 --> 00:23:15,240 changes and improvements where a deposit you know money comes in 303 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:20,580 somebody records that then turns things over to someone else right for deposits 304 00:23:18,179 --> 00:23:25,679 right I think so it's so what you want to do is try to find the most separation 305 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:29,340 you can find even if you're not going to get to the to the full amount 306 00:23:27,780 --> 00:23:33,900 um one of the things that's that makes it really hard on a small entity is 307 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:39,480 dealing with the Vacations or or um you know leaves type of thing because 308 00:23:36,120 --> 00:23:43,799 the moment you know this person always does it as a deposit but they're gone 309 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:48,600 for a week and now I do it you know something could happen in that week I 310 00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:52,440 did it if I'm also doing the banking you know the the reconciliation after the 311 00:23:50,340 --> 00:23:56,280 fact or something like that so that's where you know really even if you had 312 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:59,820 that perfect amount you could truly separate everything you end up almost 313 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:03,840 with your hands tied because when someone's not there for the day or 314 00:24:01,799 --> 00:24:07,440 something you you feel like you can't go on 315 00:24:05,100 --> 00:24:13,799 so you want to do as much as you can will you ever do enough to truly 316 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:20,100 eliminate the finding 100 probably not does that help 317 00:24:17,100 --> 00:24:25,159 um the so excuse me yep really having people cross-trained in the office would 318 00:24:22,260 --> 00:24:29,280 help so that if one person is gone the cross training thing isn't so much 319 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:33,539 going to help you on the internal control side what I mean some of the 320 00:24:31,620 --> 00:24:37,559 things when you look at Inc internal controls we have them for fraud and 321 00:24:35,700 --> 00:24:40,980 errors you know we want to make sure we have control so that someone can find a 322 00:24:39,299 --> 00:24:45,960 mistake if something happens and someone can catch fraud if it's out there 323 00:24:43,740 --> 00:24:49,679 um you know the the um errors is kind of a big area where 324 00:24:47,940 --> 00:24:52,919 cross training can help with you know the more people who can take a second 325 00:24:51,059 --> 00:24:56,220 look at something you're gonna have more people who can find those errors in a 326 00:24:54,659 --> 00:24:59,159 timely manner um you know the fraud piece 327 00:24:58,559 --> 00:25:04,020 um because of the gaps and you you have 328 00:25:01,980 --> 00:25:08,299 where people may or may not be available all the time you're not going to get 329 00:25:05,700 --> 00:25:08,299 that perfect 330 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:18,240 um another thing too and just briefly some cities will use resources outside 331 00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:23,159 of staff to try to help too one of the big examples they say is if someone you 332 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:28,260 know in the technology world where banking is all online it's a little less 333 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:31,679 necessary but back in the old days when they used to mail the statement to the 334 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:37,080 city office if that statement went before someone outside of Finance first 335 00:25:34,340 --> 00:25:42,419 or someone outside of City staff for example the mayor or a council person or 336 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:45,720 someone you know at least then you've got 337 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:49,559 some eyes looking at it before someone can try to manipulate something if there 338 00:25:47,580 --> 00:25:53,279 is something going going wrong so sometimes there's and just making sure 339 00:25:51,419 --> 00:25:57,480 you're more aware of that approval process that you know when you get 340 00:25:55,559 --> 00:26:01,260 information in front of you it's being looked at and approved in an 341 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:04,440 appropriate manner those are sometimes the council's 342 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:08,880 biggest you know what the biggest thing that you 343 00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:15,000 have before you um on page 100 344 00:26:12,020 --> 00:26:19,320 there is one Minnesota legal compliance finding 345 00:26:16,380 --> 00:26:24,720 um I feel kind of bad even kind of having to say it Minnesota requires 346 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:30,419 cities to have 110 percent of their Bank deposits covered by collateral you guys 347 00:26:27,900 --> 00:26:35,760 feel short but only to the tune of it wasn't at the 110 it was a hundred 348 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:40,200 percent covered but you were short like thirty thousand dollars or something 349 00:26:37,460 --> 00:26:42,900 part of it and then as soon as the money goes out in the first day of the year 350 00:26:41,580 --> 00:26:48,840 when the big Bond payments are made you're we're fine so one thing and banks 351 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:54,360 are notorious it costs the money to hold collateral for you so they like to play 352 00:26:51,179 --> 00:26:58,200 that that thin and so one thing to bear in mind is the city always gets a big 353 00:26:56,460 --> 00:27:03,179 chunk of money at the tail end of the year with the LGA dollars and the tax 354 00:27:00,539 --> 00:27:07,860 dollars coming in and so really just make sure that you have that coverage 355 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:11,760 obviously we had some banks go under not necessarily locally but some banks in 356 00:27:10,020 --> 00:27:14,700 this in the country did go under this this winter 357 00:27:13,260 --> 00:27:20,159 um you know so basically that that requires that requirement so that you 358 00:27:16,679 --> 00:27:23,820 have if if a bank went under the city's tax dollars or the the residence dollars 359 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:29,520 are all covered that they're not out millions of dollars 360 00:27:26,220 --> 00:27:34,580 um the FDIC coverage is only at 250. so you're saying there's Insurance out 361 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:39,120 there that we could buy or so the the FDIC coverage anyone gets on any a bank 362 00:27:38,220 --> 00:27:44,279 account um the collateral is on top of that so 363 00:27:42,179 --> 00:27:50,220 the state statute requires that your deposits outside of FDIC are 110 364 00:27:47,059 --> 00:27:54,840 collateralized and that the bank holds in your name for you 365 00:27:52,260 --> 00:27:59,220 um and you guys were I can't remember the exact amounts offhand but I wanted 366 00:27:56,820 --> 00:28:03,539 to say you needed about an extra hundred thousand dollars and you were only at 367 00:28:01,020 --> 00:28:09,000 about another 70 000 above what your bank balance was are you talking of our 368 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:12,900 reserves or of any of the dollars that it takes into account the total dollars 369 00:28:10,740 --> 00:28:18,059 of the city because you they want to make sure that all of your money if the 370 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:23,460 bank were to fail that Tracy is not out any money 371 00:28:19,919 --> 00:28:28,380 I mean ideally if the bank failed and you only had FDIC coverage you would 372 00:28:25,559 --> 00:28:33,240 only get 250 000 of the six million dollars or 5 million or 373 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:39,360 whatever the city has so what that is is the bank has to hold Securities in your 374 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:43,200 name so if they fail then you get money from this bank that bank the other bank 375 00:28:41,460 --> 00:28:47,039 because they're holding these dollars guaranteeing it forward we need to go to 376 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:51,179 the bank and make those arrangements so you're good now because the the money 377 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:55,500 came in at the tail end of the year you fell short and then you sent the money 378 00:28:52,980 --> 00:29:00,659 out in January you're good probably today I not 100 because I don't 379 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:05,460 know the numbers but what I would say is as and I can talk to Tyler a little more 380 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:09,900 in detail on this as you get closer to the end of the year and those LGA and 381 00:29:07,740 --> 00:29:13,980 tax dollars are going to come in really re-look at that and make sure if you're 382 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:18,360 short that the bank is aware and you get the funds in time because the bank will 383 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:21,659 tell you they're watching it for you but they will look at this January 10th when 384 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:25,919 they're closing out the month of December they won't look at it December 385 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:29,640 10th before they close out the month so they'll find out you're short when it's 386 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:33,720 too late so I mean it's really the responsibility 387 00:29:31,919 --> 00:29:38,039 of the city to make sure your funds are collateralized 388 00:29:35,460 --> 00:29:42,720 but so that ends up as a legal compliance finding um the state requires 389 00:29:40,380 --> 00:29:48,120 us to test certain Minnesota legal legal statutes and that was one that that came 390 00:29:45,419 --> 00:29:51,419 up so you might get a notice from the state auditor's office after this is 391 00:29:49,799 --> 00:29:56,460 submitted and you can basically just tell them that you know we are going to 392 00:29:54,720 --> 00:30:01,140 uh you know take additional steps to make sure that um that the collateral is 393 00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:06,059 is there in the future um and then the last page there is the 394 00:30:04,140 --> 00:30:10,340 in the report is the legal compliance letter and it's just stating that one 395 00:30:07,679 --> 00:30:10,340 finding again 396 00:30:10,380 --> 00:30:17,700 and then the second book you guys have um in there is um 397 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:21,659 the communication or the letter we have to send a communication to those charged 398 00:30:19,860 --> 00:30:24,720 with governance so the city council so it just details kind of the audit 399 00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:28,440 process um if the if we had issues in the audit 400 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:32,720 we would note it there um just because someone asked me before 401 00:30:30,659 --> 00:30:37,919 um being it was the first year audit there were what I would say is expected 402 00:30:36,539 --> 00:30:43,919 um difficulties not necessarily difficulties but just you know hips and 403 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:47,940 and hurdles to go through but um and then obviously with the Staffing 404 00:30:45,299 --> 00:30:54,539 turnover I know we'd hope to try to get this in a little bit earlier in July but 405 00:30:51,659 --> 00:30:58,919 obviously that kind of just brought a little bit of that on but outside of the 406 00:30:56,700 --> 00:31:03,120 normal kind of expected with those issues there were nothing else and then 407 00:31:01,260 --> 00:31:06,600 if you look into the report it just like I said it shows you some of those charts 408 00:31:04,980 --> 00:31:10,380 and graphs um breaks down the general funds the 409 00:31:08,460 --> 00:31:14,340 revenues um 410 00:31:11,220 --> 00:31:19,080 kind of to make things short if you go back to page five in those 411 00:31:16,740 --> 00:31:25,679 graphs one thing I would note is the um as far 412 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:30,240 as what's the health of the general fund of the city of Tracy 413 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:34,500 um the states um recommendation is for cities to have 414 00:31:31,980 --> 00:31:38,460 35 to 50 percent of unassigned fund balance which is the remaining dollars 415 00:31:36,539 --> 00:31:42,480 you have at the end of the year um going into the next year 416 00:31:40,679 --> 00:31:48,480 um you know roughly you guys are at about five months operating revenues and 417 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:52,559 about 36.3 of expenditures um so you're at that kind of bare bones 418 00:31:50,220 --> 00:31:56,520 minimum of what the state wants you to be 419 00:31:53,880 --> 00:32:01,380 um this city does have other resources set aside in some Reserve funds so it's 420 00:31:59,220 --> 00:32:06,020 not super alarming um but one thing to bear in mind as you 421 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:11,700 look at projects and such going forward there the the amount in the general fund 422 00:32:09,059 --> 00:32:16,919 is really just that amount needed to pay normal day-to-day operations 423 00:32:15,419 --> 00:32:21,960 um the other thing on the bottom there on the lower graph it looks the looks at 424 00:32:19,919 --> 00:32:28,039 the unassigned fund balance in relation to the next year's expenditures and you 425 00:32:25,380 --> 00:32:33,000 can see in 2020 you guys are at 25 and now you're hovering between that 30 426 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:37,260 and 35 percent and so you're obviously going in the 427 00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:41,700 right direction I don't know where you were much before 428 00:32:39,059 --> 00:32:48,840 that or if that's ever been kind of brought to light 429 00:32:43,500 --> 00:32:48,840 um and then if you look in page seven 430 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:55,020 um and I think this is kind of where some of those funds that you guys were 431 00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:59,220 talking about earlier comes into play um on the bottom of page seven under the 432 00:32:56,580 --> 00:33:04,140 capital projects Capital project funds there's the 400 capital projects fund 433 00:33:01,919 --> 00:33:07,620 and that is just the general city capital dollars 434 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:14,279 um at the end of 2022 there were 763 700 in 435 00:33:12,299 --> 00:33:20,039 there so I know before Eric left we had a conversation on the community center 436 00:33:16,919 --> 00:33:24,360 and I know he had mentioned that part of that is what has been so to speak 437 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:27,960 earmarked for that Community Center so I'm thinking when you're looking where 438 00:33:25,559 --> 00:33:32,659 some of those dollars are that hopefully there's a better breakdown of what that 439 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,659 that entails 440 00:33:37,860 --> 00:33:44,460 otherwise you guys had I mean most of your funds had positive fund balances 441 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:48,779 which is good to know the other one because you do have the municipal liquor 442 00:33:46,019 --> 00:33:54,899 store if you go into page 10 it shows the liquor fund 443 00:33:50,519 --> 00:33:59,820 um the the change in net position is the profit or loss the overall for 444 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:03,779 the year for 2022 you're showing a decrease of thirty four thousand dollars 445 00:34:01,620 --> 00:34:08,220 only because it's ninety seven thousand dollar transfer went out so when the 446 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:11,940 state looks is it the fact of it was the liquor store self-supporting they're 447 00:34:10,260 --> 00:34:16,379 going to look at the dollar before that 97 000 transfer so you're going to be to 448 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,679 the positive about sixty thousand dollars 449 00:34:19,919 --> 00:34:22,760 hmm 450 00:34:23,359 --> 00:34:31,379 any other specific questions on anything or want me to highlight where you 451 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:38,700 how does the liquor store profitability that we've had this last year 452 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:44,159 compare with State averages so one of the the liquor stores are 453 00:34:40,980 --> 00:34:48,780 really getting harder to look at I think we are 454 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:54,540 I want to say maybe seven Municipal liquor stores is all we have left out of 455 00:34:50,700 --> 00:34:58,800 in excess of 50 cities of those a good half of them are off sale only which 456 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:03,839 obviously they're very different as far as operations than a combined on and off 457 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:08,220 sale what I can tell you is you guys seem to have kind of come out 458 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:13,980 of covid better than what some other cities have the 2020-2021 years were 459 00:35:11,579 --> 00:35:18,839 really good for Liquor Stores um and you know some some that had been 460 00:35:16,020 --> 00:35:24,180 seeing losses had profits in those years and now they've kind of dipped back down 461 00:35:20,820 --> 00:35:28,920 so kind of looking at your numbers um you know you guys came you know and 462 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:34,980 held your own out of covet if not even increased a little bit the gross profit 463 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:39,599 margin came down but your sales went up so I would say you're probably I don't 464 00:35:37,740 --> 00:35:45,020 know about the average across the board but I would say you're unique to the 465 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,020 ones I've seen in that Realm 466 00:35:50,780 --> 00:35:54,500 any other questions 467 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:04,740 [Applause] the other thing is you look through 468 00:36:02,700 --> 00:36:07,320 things when you look at like your sewer fund 469 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:11,700 um one of the things that 470 00:36:09,420 --> 00:36:15,540 I personally wouldn't have done if I was here three years ago when some of these 471 00:36:13,380 --> 00:36:20,160 projects started is run some of the projects through the Enterprise funds 472 00:36:17,359 --> 00:36:24,599 for example if you look at page nine the sewer fund because the Project's getting 473 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:27,680 allocated out to each of those Enterprise funds in the year of 474 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:31,859 construction you're almost skewing your numbers by 475 00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:35,520 throwing all this grant Revenue in there when that grant money is now going to 476 00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:39,839 buy you an asset that you're going to depreciate off over the next 40 years 477 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:44,220 um so sewer fun looks like it made 1.4 million 478 00:36:42,300 --> 00:36:48,960 dollars last year when really you got 1.7 to build some infrastructure so 479 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:53,520 you're getting almost a little bit of skewed numbers and you have to kind of 480 00:36:50,940 --> 00:36:57,119 back into some of that um so to an untrained eye someone's 481 00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:01,020 going to look at the sewer fund and say why are you charging me money to you 482 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:06,780 know run the sewer when you've got all this money in there when in all reality 483 00:37:03,900 --> 00:37:09,200 um that wasn't operations revenues going in there 484 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:16,920 so should we be doing something different going well you know you're so 485 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:21,420 far deep into the project we didn't kind of adjust anything with it but when when 486 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:27,240 I've always talked to USDA they they strongly recommend really a part of 487 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:30,420 their Grant stuff is you're required to run it through a capital project fund 488 00:37:28,859 --> 00:37:34,200 which means everything related the project gets run into one pot and then 489 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:37,859 at project completion you divvy out the ass that you divvy out the debt you 490 00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:42,960 divvy all that out and so the amount comes into sewer kind of in total at the 491 00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:46,920 end and what that does is just these larger Revenue sources don't you know 492 00:37:45,359 --> 00:37:50,579 skew those numbers year over year and you get to see a better true what did it 493 00:37:49,020 --> 00:37:53,579 cost to operate the sewer Fund in that given year 494 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:57,119 because that grant money wasn't part of the operations of the 495 00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:01,200 sewer so should we change something for next 496 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:05,460 year I wouldn't say necessarily for next year but maybe next project when you get 497 00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:10,200 into it sounds like maybe there's a phase for something along the way and 498 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:15,300 you know if you get into some of those next phases I would definitely run it as 499 00:38:12,540 --> 00:38:19,680 a capital project and run it outside of your Enterprise funds and then at 500 00:38:17,579 --> 00:38:25,380 project completion roll it into the the related funds it's a little simpler to 501 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:30,540 track the day-to-day throughout the the year of the project you get to see 502 00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:35,160 everything in one pot and then close it at the end 503 00:38:32,339 --> 00:38:40,560 is the sewer fund a dedicated fund that only things related to sewer can be it 504 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:45,839 can be used no any of your Enterprise funds can be used to you know self 505 00:38:44,220 --> 00:38:50,099 support your other your general government or whatever 506 00:38:47,579 --> 00:38:53,820 um your Enterprise funds um sewer has a substantial amount of 507 00:38:52,020 --> 00:38:56,760 cash but they also have a substantial amount of debts when you start looking 508 00:38:55,020 --> 00:39:00,660 at where does the city have some money maybe to look at some of these other 509 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:04,740 projects you know what level are you willing to drain down some of those 510 00:39:02,220 --> 00:39:09,599 funds when you've got high debt service out there too but yeah Enterprise funds 511 00:39:07,740 --> 00:39:13,140 the reason the city goes into business is supposed to self-support your other 512 00:39:11,099 --> 00:39:18,079 funds so you know that's why you do those transfers over to the general fund 513 00:39:15,780 --> 00:39:18,079 each year 514 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,280 foreign 515 00:39:26,820 --> 00:39:32,520 but I guess if you're looking like that high overview you've got positive Debt 516 00:39:30,900 --> 00:39:36,300 Service balances so that's a good thing you've got money coming in that's paying 517 00:39:34,140 --> 00:39:40,079 your debts it's just really building up some of those Reserve funds and you know 518 00:39:38,220 --> 00:39:44,339 working to keep that general fund budget intact so that you're not dipping below 519 00:39:42,119 --> 00:39:49,020 that 35 percent and maybe even trying to get that up a little bit and the reason 520 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:53,579 really being is you're just heavily reliant on LGA and tax dollars and those 521 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:57,480 come into payments throughout the year so you need that five to six months you 522 00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:02,339 know cash Reserves at the end of the year to get you until the the next LGA 523 00:40:00,420 --> 00:40:06,720 dollars come in and there is there other cities in this particular or are we 524 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:10,260 unique um 525 00:40:07,859 --> 00:40:14,820 I have ones that are way worse you know you're kind avoid you know at the bottom 526 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:18,240 that you want to be and you're at the bottom of what you want to be and you do 527 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:22,380 have other funds out there so it's it's not you know I usually look at if if you 528 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,960 get to a point before the LGA dollars come in and you don't know don't know 529 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:28,140 how you're going to cover salaries that's usually when you have a problem 530 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:31,260 when the city is truly living the paycheck to paycheck 531 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:34,619 um but you know I have cities out there too with a lot more money and it's 532 00:40:33,240 --> 00:40:38,940 trying to find that balance because you don't want too much money sitting in the 533 00:40:36,180 --> 00:40:42,839 account then then why are we taxing you know so finding that that happy medium 534 00:40:40,859 --> 00:40:47,040 and then you know making sure you have enough reserves so that you have the 535 00:40:44,579 --> 00:40:53,099 money for the rainy day and the farthest and past there were times that LGA money 536 00:40:49,579 --> 00:40:57,480 was not always going out when the state was in trouble financially right there 537 00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:01,320 were years where things got cut or that kind of thing and luckily those years 538 00:40:59,579 --> 00:41:04,680 are kind of behind us and it sounds like they're going back up a little bit but 539 00:41:03,060 --> 00:41:09,660 you know that's one thing you know if you can keep that budget intact to where 540 00:41:07,740 --> 00:41:12,180 you're you know if anything adding a little bit to that Surplus you sure 541 00:41:11,099 --> 00:41:17,640 you're going to be in a much better financial position so in summer you're 542 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:22,579 saying our fund balance general fund balance is adequate 543 00:41:20,060 --> 00:41:27,720 right exactly yep you're kind of if you look at what 544 00:41:25,260 --> 00:41:32,339 the state recommends you're you're at the bottom of of their recommendation 545 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,400 yeah I mean I've seen as low as four percent 546 00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:40,859 so you know that that's not even close 547 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:44,700 um and I've seen as high as 200 which is again why do we have all this money so 548 00:41:42,839 --> 00:41:47,180 it's it's trying to find that happy medium 549 00:41:47,220 --> 00:41:53,339 it's the ideal person again and the state's recommendation is 35 to 50 550 00:41:51,720 --> 00:41:56,160 percent um and then I usually try to say two 551 00:41:54,720 --> 00:42:00,720 like throw a little Caution out there that's what they say say for all cities 552 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:05,280 um the smaller you are the more heavily Reliant you are in LJ and taxes so it's 553 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:09,599 probably more ideal to be pushing closer to that 50 percent I've had some of my 554 00:42:07,740 --> 00:42:14,640 cities go through Bond ratings and the bond rating councils want to see closer 555 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:17,700 to 75 to get a better Bond rating so some of my cities say we don't care what 556 00:42:16,380 --> 00:42:21,260 the state says we want a good Bond rating we're going to go for seven five 557 00:42:22,980 --> 00:42:31,079 as the amount of indebtedness that the city has how much of an impact does that 558 00:42:28,980 --> 00:42:38,040 have on our bond rating so overall I mean that plays into it yes 559 00:42:34,260 --> 00:42:44,520 are we in danger a level of depth that the city has of maybe 560 00:42:42,119 --> 00:42:48,660 losing a little bit of our bond rating or what what are you doing I'm not from 561 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:51,320 the bond Council s like that but I would 562 00:42:53,700 --> 00:43:00,119 I was on the road you have a fair amount of debt but for the size and the dollars 563 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:03,540 of the revenues it's not a huge amount of ice cities that are half your size 564 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:09,420 with just as much debt so you know it's all in relation to 565 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:13,500 um you know the funds out there and then you know you guys have 566 00:43:11,339 --> 00:43:16,440 um the housing and various other funds that you're spreading some of that debt 567 00:43:15,060 --> 00:43:19,859 out over um you know some cities they have that 568 00:43:18,300 --> 00:43:23,180 kind of debt just in their in their General and their water and sewer 569 00:43:27,780 --> 00:43:37,020 very good any other questions first not yet don't put it that way yeah well 570 00:43:34,859 --> 00:43:41,280 Tyler has my information so if anyone comes up with questions and you know 571 00:43:38,940 --> 00:43:46,500 feel free call or shoot me an email it definitely can explain further get back 572 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:51,060 and in the ideal world I would have had these to you a week ago so you had some 573 00:43:48,780 --> 00:43:55,800 time to overview but we were trying to work down to the wire and get it out so 574 00:43:53,819 --> 00:44:00,540 um wanted to get this so it's submitted um the deadline with the state is August 575 00:43:58,220 --> 00:44:04,500 15th so um as pending you guys are approving it 576 00:44:02,700 --> 00:44:09,920 I will get it submitted here yet this week so it's like in their hands 577 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,920 foreign 578 00:44:42,900 --> 00:44:48,359 we can do that and just write it up later 579 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:51,839 I would have you make a motion to approve it and if you need to you can 580 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:55,500 formalize that with a resolution that's signed later 581 00:44:54,000 --> 00:45:02,359 well I'll make the motion that we approve the 582 00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:02,359 last or the audit as presented 583 00:45:08,099 --> 00:45:17,000 or accomplice all right 584 00:45:12,359 --> 00:45:17,000 Schmidt yes Tom Dobson 585 00:45:18,660 --> 00:45:23,599 you fell asleep Tommy still there 586 00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:32,280 uh Jerry Jones aye George landite aye 587 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:35,480 uh Jenner vizu yes Dave Peaks hi Mary Corman hi 588 00:45:42,359 --> 00:45:49,560 it says new business City administrator did we touch on that already 589 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:52,819 my stuff I do have something else to add so we 590 00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:57,020 have resolution 2023-59 see we don't have anything 591 00:45:59,720 --> 00:46:08,280 that does it's on your iPad it's on the 592 00:46:04,980 --> 00:46:13,920 electronics did you catch that last yep I would say I I couldn't get my mic 593 00:46:11,700 --> 00:46:17,599 turned on okay I'll add you on there then there we go 594 00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:28,500 okay so let's change order are we back to the same one yeah so 595 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:33,960 change order one uh for the Center Street project I have Kyle here tonight 596 00:46:30,660 --> 00:46:36,800 to explain that in further detail um part of this kind of falls under the 597 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:42,240 county expense too that will get reimbursed for 598 00:46:40,380 --> 00:46:47,099 um but uh if you have any questions on that uh 599 00:46:45,420 --> 00:46:51,200 it's basically the same as those prevent presented two weeks ago so 600 00:46:57,300 --> 00:47:03,300 sure um so for the Center Street project with 601 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:10,020 this current resolution change order one that includes a few items related to 602 00:47:06,599 --> 00:47:15,780 additional traffic control signage and an additional sanitary sewer inside drop 603 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:20,599 product that was to be added to the prod project 604 00:47:20,660 --> 00:47:27,319 the traffic control signs were an additional ask above and beyond what the 605 00:47:25,980 --> 00:47:31,800 original bid traffic control plan was 606 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:36,480 so that's something that the contractor had put together there um I think we 607 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:40,160 included their invoicing they typically bid on a number of signs and a square 608 00:47:38,220 --> 00:47:47,099 footage of signs in their original bid the ad for the road closed and road 609 00:47:44,220 --> 00:47:52,079 closed through traffic signs we're not showing on the addition that initial 610 00:47:48,900 --> 00:47:55,680 traffic control plan it was a technique it was something that was you know our 611 00:47:53,700 --> 00:48:01,200 intent to to be included as part of that project from just the safety and a 612 00:47:58,220 --> 00:48:07,980 traffic control standpoint there was some technical difficulty during the the 613 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:12,420 plan plotting the the actual design plot that came out and I think there was uh 614 00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:17,819 even the wording from a broken link it's a c Dash where the image should have 615 00:48:16,140 --> 00:48:20,940 been so um that was something that was intended 616 00:48:19,319 --> 00:48:26,160 to be included in that original bid but wasn't shown in there so it's additional 617 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:28,680 to to have them included would be additional 618 00:48:27,180 --> 00:48:32,220 scope of work on the project 619 00:48:30,060 --> 00:48:36,599 the additional hospital detour signs are 620 00:48:34,980 --> 00:48:40,980 also part of it that was something that was added after the fact after that 621 00:48:38,819 --> 00:48:45,839 traffic control is set up and the the sanitary sewer drop was 622 00:48:44,339 --> 00:48:51,300 something that was discussed with the contractor as a best product to use in 623 00:48:48,780 --> 00:48:54,740 that that location and 624 00:48:52,380 --> 00:48:59,819 Kyle I know we discussed the drop the drop inside drop versus outside drop 625 00:48:58,020 --> 00:49:06,780 and the problem there was uh we generally when you add or 626 00:49:02,940 --> 00:49:12,240 subtract a quantity it's a unit price item like per linear foot or per piece 627 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:18,300 or whatever it may be well in this case the 628 00:49:13,579 --> 00:49:21,900 internal drop was not included in the itemization of you know the line item 629 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:27,780 bidding so the external drop was so they 630 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:32,640 couldn't really add an internal drop because it didn't exist in the list so I 631 00:49:31,020 --> 00:49:36,119 think because it might explain to that correctly on that portion of it yeah 632 00:49:34,619 --> 00:49:41,400 since we didn't already have a bid unit price on it that we didn't have a basis 633 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:47,880 to go by for that instance and in this case we'd be subtracting a 634 00:49:43,940 --> 00:49:52,500 exterior drop the overall price for that versus in one on the exterior I'd say is 635 00:49:50,579 --> 00:49:55,859 on the order of about half the price and I think for this particular location 636 00:49:53,819 --> 00:50:00,960 tying into an existing manhole rather than replacing the whole manhole or 637 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:05,220 digging down an additional 10 feet below what we already have to dig down to do 638 00:50:03,180 --> 00:50:09,300 the pipe work and worry about more of the backfill and those type of issues 639 00:50:06,780 --> 00:50:13,020 this in inside drop product is is the right thing to do in this case 640 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:17,579 I don't think that question was concerning that I think we're fine with 641 00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:23,880 that aspect of it sure it was the signage okay why is that our 642 00:50:20,819 --> 00:50:28,140 responsibility versus your responsibility 643 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:33,060 I mean it should be quite obvious if you're tearing a road out 644 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:39,119 there should be Road closed signage plus I know 645 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:42,780 I've brought it up multiple times about the hospital signage 646 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:47,220 that just because it didn't get from one plan 647 00:50:44,940 --> 00:50:52,760 to the other plan whatever that shouldn't be our responsibility 648 00:50:49,500 --> 00:50:58,859 we that's what we are questioning if it's an oversight 649 00:50:56,220 --> 00:51:04,200 what's your job I I if I had missed that during the 650 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:09,180 discussion I know we had talked a lot about some of the new signage that won 651 00:51:06,359 --> 00:51:14,400 around the hospital I I don't recall the detour signage part of it 652 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:18,059 prior to the design plans I I do appreciate though that if there was 653 00:51:16,619 --> 00:51:22,859 discussion on that I don't have knowledge on it that is that part of 654 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:26,880 it's on us for you know if there's additional costs to come back later like 655 00:51:24,900 --> 00:51:33,119 for them to come back out and add those signs after the fact 656 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:38,339 um from how I typically handle these type of situations if it's a 657 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:41,940 part of the work that I like it like it mentioned you know they they bid the 658 00:51:40,260 --> 00:51:46,319 Project based on a number of signs they put out and types of signs and square 659 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:51,180 footage is of them um the if these would have been included 660 00:51:48,780 --> 00:51:55,140 in that original bid plan that I would have expect that traffic control price 661 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:57,800 to have been a higher price with that original bid 662 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,980 so is it your oversight 663 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:14,400 I I mean I I will say that I looking back hindsight being looking back we 664 00:52:11,460 --> 00:52:19,559 would have liked to include those in the initial project plan 665 00:52:16,500 --> 00:52:23,280 at the end of the project the price to add these after versus including them in 666 00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:26,700 that original bid I don't picture being different 667 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:31,619 the the total end of the project by adding these after the fact Jerry what 668 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:37,500 you're saying is you don't blame the construction company oh no it was 669 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:43,559 the engineering that did not have that in the original plan or inadequate 670 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:47,099 yeah I mean if it's not in the plan how is the construction company is supposed 671 00:52:45,240 --> 00:52:51,000 to know you're not saying that we shouldn't we shouldn't pay the 672 00:52:48,839 --> 00:52:56,339 construction company I'm saying or somebody we should somebody needs to pay 673 00:52:53,280 --> 00:53:00,599 the construction I'm saying I don't know if it should be us or if it should be 674 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:04,020 them well like I said I mean at the end of 675 00:53:02,339 --> 00:53:07,200 the day I mean dollar dollar for dollar if these would have been included in 676 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:13,819 that initial bid that initial bid price would have been higher in 677 00:53:10,700 --> 00:53:13,819 for sure 678 00:53:18,059 --> 00:53:26,880 what was that Tom said would we not have shared that with the county yeah the the 679 00:53:24,119 --> 00:53:31,800 track the overall traffic control plan um and 680 00:53:28,559 --> 00:53:35,460 everything in general is like the part of this project is Lyon County budget as 681 00:53:33,660 --> 00:53:39,599 well and project with it being the street so approximately half of the cost 682 00:53:37,980 --> 00:53:46,559 of this is kind of a street inline County cost and the other half is the 683 00:53:42,660 --> 00:53:49,400 street City utility type cost s 684 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,400 um 685 00:53:53,819 --> 00:54:00,660 it's all part of their eligible costs that 686 00:53:58,740 --> 00:54:05,640 traffic control is if I remember correctly the county gave 687 00:54:02,819 --> 00:54:11,220 us x amount of dollars right yep just a pot saying this is your money to 688 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:15,800 put towards this project no no so they're not going to take on any 689 00:54:12,599 --> 00:54:15,800 additional costs 690 00:54:16,260 --> 00:54:23,819 but they so the county will only cover 691 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:27,619 the county eligible expenses so they're not going to give us 1.8 million dollars 692 00:54:25,619 --> 00:54:33,480 if it comes out at 1.785 I think that's all they're going 693 00:54:30,059 --> 00:54:37,980 to pay you know if say that there's a change order and they you know the 694 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:41,400 contract was reduced that's my understanding I don't know regardless 695 00:54:39,599 --> 00:54:44,059 that's correct that's the right understanding yeah 696 00:54:45,059 --> 00:54:52,680 um I mean the dollar amounts fixed yeah so it doesn't matter it doesn't 697 00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:55,800 matter to them unless they get money back 698 00:54:53,880 --> 00:55:01,920 I mean they don't they don't care if it costs more that's more on us but the max 699 00:54:58,260 --> 00:55:01,920 they'll pay is yes 700 00:55:02,950 --> 00:55:06,050 [Music] 701 00:55:07,260 --> 00:55:14,480 correctly at that time as far as the signage Would we not have gotten more 702 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,480 from the county 703 00:55:17,339 --> 00:55:24,180 I don't know that necessarily I think that like you had said from a from the 704 00:55:22,260 --> 00:55:32,040 overall greater County budget they had budgeted that 1.98 or nine was it 705 00:55:28,140 --> 00:55:37,319 1.8 in yep was that just a percentage they figured out though 706 00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:41,280 um their percentage they perceived that was their percentage that they would pay 707 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:44,040 for the project signs would have been there the percentage might have been a 708 00:55:42,599 --> 00:55:50,040 twit Tire they're basing it on the actual 709 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:54,780 their share of the cost to be so if we weren't replacing the pipes I think this 710 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:58,559 is what it would cost to tell me to do the project 711 00:55:56,700 --> 00:56:02,520 they're just you know working with accounting because they have 712 00:56:00,599 --> 00:56:05,460 we have infrastructure that shops underneath it and we want to get that 713 00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:10,140 fixed the County's going to pay for everything on top what is the dollar 714 00:56:07,260 --> 00:56:17,339 amount we're talking about here like 8 000 80 or 715 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:21,839 900.50 well no that's yeah that's 8 900 okay and like I said I mean hindsight 716 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:26,280 being 2020 we would have liked to include everything that where we're at 717 00:56:23,700 --> 00:56:29,160 today in that original bid if if there are things that 718 00:56:28,319 --> 00:56:34,200 um that that we have designed incorrectly 719 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:37,800 and it needs to be removed and replaced there's some pipes or some certain 720 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:42,359 things wrong that's something that I see is on us if it's typically when it's 721 00:56:40,260 --> 00:56:45,900 something like this where there were five signs in the bid and at the end of 722 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:49,980 the day the right thing to do is to include six or seven that's still 723 00:56:48,059 --> 00:56:55,140 something that um I guess 724 00:56:52,020 --> 00:56:59,900 would it would would have been part of that original project cost either way 725 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,900 but 726 00:57:05,540 --> 00:57:13,020 the item in there that I see that they had an additional trip out here to add 727 00:57:10,079 --> 00:57:16,800 those signs that mobilization of I don't know is this thousand some dollars 728 00:57:14,579 --> 00:57:21,420 that's certainly something that uh you know looking back if if we would have 729 00:57:19,619 --> 00:57:25,319 had that in there with that extra trip out to add signs 730 00:57:23,099 --> 00:57:30,000 whatever that was that that's something that 731 00:57:26,700 --> 00:57:33,720 I feel that that responsibility for so who's to say they didn't charge extra 732 00:57:31,980 --> 00:57:39,319 when they made these signs because they had to make these special versus when 733 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:39,319 they did the whole project 734 00:57:39,420 --> 00:57:45,839 I mean you know as well as I do when you bid a job like 735 00:57:43,380 --> 00:57:49,260 like you go you get a special pricing and then when you add stuff on you don't 736 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:54,119 get that special pricing on half the stuff you add on anymore 737 00:57:51,660 --> 00:57:59,720 right that's tough to comment on 738 00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,720 but true 739 00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:08,180 possibly possibly I guess it just comes down to the the nitty-gritty here yeah I 740 00:58:07,020 --> 00:58:12,599 mean at the end of the day responsibility versus the city's 741 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:18,960 responsibility that's the nitty-gritty here 742 00:58:15,540 --> 00:58:24,119 not you wish 2020 hindsight that you would have put those signs in but we all 743 00:58:20,819 --> 00:58:31,559 wish that but when you miss something you have to pay the the piper at that 744 00:58:27,359 --> 00:58:36,180 time I guess the nitty-gritty is I'll say my my feeling 745 00:58:34,740 --> 00:58:41,760 is your company is the one that missed the 746 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:47,040 signage on the final plan that they had to bid on 747 00:58:43,079 --> 00:58:52,140 it wasn't us we hired your company to handle this for us that's why you're 748 00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:56,700 getting paid not you your company is getting paid 749 00:58:54,180 --> 00:59:03,240 to be the construction manager or whatever the title is I don't know 750 00:58:59,220 --> 00:59:07,020 I yeah engineer I I feel like that should be your company's it was your 751 00:59:05,460 --> 00:59:12,200 company's air so you should have to pay for the 752 00:59:10,079 --> 00:59:12,200 air 753 00:59:13,500 --> 00:59:20,640 what kind of money are we talking are we talking this 2300 invoice no I'm talking 754 00:59:18,299 --> 00:59:26,160 the eight thousand the eight thousand whatever so real 755 00:59:22,980 --> 00:59:26,160 money 856.22 756 00:59:27,420 --> 00:59:34,579 I can honestly say I feel the exact same way Jerry this 757 00:59:31,619 --> 00:59:34,579 and I do too 758 00:59:40,579 --> 00:59:47,520 so I guess the question is is I you probably don't have the authority to 759 00:59:45,299 --> 00:59:54,660 decide back to your your bosses or whoever 760 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:58,319 absolutely will I can understand the question and the 761 00:59:56,460 --> 01:00:03,059 thought on things I will that I will bring that that back and we'll see what 762 01:00:00,660 --> 01:00:08,520 we can do at the end of the day we've got long history with the city and a lot 763 01:00:05,579 --> 01:00:12,299 of work happening here that amount of money one one way or another we don't 764 01:00:10,799 --> 01:00:16,260 want that to affect any kind of relationship and anything there so what 765 01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:20,579 do you have to remember Kyle is we're also a little frustrated because of the 766 01:00:18,780 --> 01:00:26,280 project that was done down at the other end of the town where there's issues 767 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:29,940 and so it's when like I was talking about when you take money from something 768 01:00:27,780 --> 01:00:34,020 well when you start making errors and a little one here a little one there they 769 01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:38,520 all start adding up and it adds up to more and more frustrations 770 01:00:36,059 --> 01:00:43,440 eight thousand dollars it's it's a drop in the bucket for these projects it's 771 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:48,200 kind of the principle is what we're getting to okay I can appreciate that 772 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:58,559 seems like you'd want to table that resolution and allow them to confer with 773 01:00:55,680 --> 01:01:02,640 their their company and then bring a proposal back to the city thank you so 774 01:01:00,780 --> 01:01:08,220 I'll make a motion to write a table resolution 775 01:01:04,099 --> 01:01:13,380 2023-59 for more information okay second go oh I'm sorry just maybe further 776 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:17,040 discussion than I at this point um I will I mean 777 01:01:14,819 --> 01:01:21,599 um from a greater perspective we want to work something out whatever the case is 778 01:01:19,559 --> 01:01:24,900 with isg in the city um I think this resolution too just 779 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:29,579 something to think about is is more for payment to the contractor 780 01:01:26,700 --> 01:01:36,480 specific specifically to at this time and I just I'm trying to weigh how that 781 01:01:33,180 --> 01:01:40,260 all fits in here too they're not a good idea you just pay the contractor and 782 01:01:38,339 --> 01:01:45,020 then we'll work it out yeah good idea 783 01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:50,220 well I mean if we have to pay two thousand dollars 784 01:01:47,819 --> 01:01:56,220 of it or something we can do that yeah that way the contractor gets his money 785 01:01:53,599 --> 01:02:00,660 you get to think about a little more do you want to make a resolution to pay 786 01:01:57,780 --> 01:02:04,380 minus the amount in question so then at least getting paid yeah and 787 01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:07,680 then the remaining amount is left outstanding anyway 788 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:13,740 because I mean we don't we're not questioning yeah internal yeah the 789 01:02:10,859 --> 01:02:17,280 external thing yeah yeah I just I I don't mean to make this about something 790 01:02:15,599 --> 01:02:20,880 else but I don't want a contractor that's due some money to not get paid on 791 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:23,880 account of trying to figure this part out too 792 01:02:22,260 --> 01:02:28,680 oh I I don't I I think you can make that 793 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:32,640 resolution and then have with me or maybe there's needs to be with the 794 01:02:30,900 --> 01:02:36,480 caveat of the further discussion between City and isg on it do you want to 795 01:02:35,220 --> 01:02:41,520 supplement the money and then we negotiate no we're going to say we'll 796 01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:47,540 pay half we're going to pay the well obviously we would pay that other 797 01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:47,540 one was a height 798 01:02:49,559 --> 01:02:59,000 but what he's saying is there's no offering from them to pay the contractor 799 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:59,000 no the contractor is not at issue 800 01:03:01,140 --> 01:03:05,579 I just have a problem paying the bill and then like we're going to get 801 01:03:04,260 --> 01:03:09,900 reimbursed because even like the other time then it 802 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:14,700 was we got some different services from you 803 01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:18,680 for the money well maybe right now we're more into the dollars than services 804 01:03:22,799 --> 01:03:27,660 we pay half of it then they're gonna say well they've already paid half so we'll 805 01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:35,420 just cover the other half you know what I mean 806 01:03:30,079 --> 01:03:35,420 isg yeah they'll say well sincerity yeah 807 01:03:35,599 --> 01:03:41,640 I don't mean to try and pass it so let's we'll we'll get that part figured out at 808 01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:47,059 a separate time I didn't mean that I just like I said I don't I don't want to 809 01:03:45,180 --> 01:03:52,140 um all right I don't have a problem paying the I definitely should pay them 810 01:03:49,859 --> 01:03:55,980 7 000 whatever I don't have those dollar amounts right in front of me I just have 811 01:03:53,760 --> 01:04:01,020 the combined dollar amounts and your motion Dave 812 01:03:58,020 --> 01:04:07,980 that will pay we have to change the dollar resolution 813 01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:12,180 because that's not under question so these get pretty confusing when we 814 01:04:09,660 --> 01:04:15,720 change numbers yeah I know but um 815 01:04:13,140 --> 01:04:20,220 I guess for now do we are we better off just tabling this 816 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:25,020 and then see what he wants to do and then bring it into okay 817 01:04:22,700 --> 01:04:29,220 this is when we'd pay that right because they're even removed from they have to 818 01:04:26,579 --> 01:04:32,839 the actual payment part of it is yeah so it's something that could be go on the 819 01:04:30,839 --> 01:04:38,640 next agenda yep I don't know so then the 820 01:04:36,559 --> 01:04:44,520 contractor is not going to get anything at this time not until it's approved 821 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:52,980 even the portion with the pipe that hasn't been that work hasn't been done 822 01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:52,980 yet so that is still a future item so 823 01:04:54,780 --> 01:04:58,880 there's the motion's still standing 824 01:05:01,319 --> 01:05:03,980 so if you said 825 01:05:05,940 --> 01:05:13,859 you said the external drop was bid on the job right you said 826 01:05:10,740 --> 01:05:17,940 um inside drop isn't that what you said 827 01:05:15,900 --> 01:05:23,520 that's what was there was still discussion around what the the right 828 01:05:20,339 --> 01:05:29,460 unit was one way or another so so which one was on the initial bit the extra 829 01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:33,980 external drop is is a is a contract bit item we've got a handful that was going 830 01:05:31,859 --> 01:05:38,280 in in the various places in the project and you said this inside drop is 831 01:05:36,420 --> 01:05:44,040 replacing that so then we would get the deduct for that one right 832 01:05:40,500 --> 01:05:48,240 this was this in entire look at that existing manhole is something that's 833 01:05:45,900 --> 01:05:52,559 going to be an additional either way but won't we save on the cost of the 834 01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:59,160 external drop I think is what she's saying right that we would say that cost 835 01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:04,200 which is cheaper the internal or the external the internal that's being 836 01:06:02,339 --> 01:06:07,559 looked at is the cheaper of the two options credit 837 01:06:07,740 --> 01:06:14,780 now the external wasn't included in that initial bid oh it was not yeah 838 01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:29,000 connection to that existing manhole oh okay yep oh I'm sorry I thought you said 839 01:06:24,119 --> 01:06:29,000 that the one of them was included I know 840 01:06:30,180 --> 01:06:39,559 okay Okay so we've got a first and a second 841 01:06:34,380 --> 01:06:39,559 of tables okay so we need a roll call 842 01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:46,640 Dave you had the my motion a second 843 01:06:48,839 --> 01:06:51,079 yeah 844 01:06:51,780 --> 01:06:54,260 all right 845 01:06:57,079 --> 01:07:02,240 generizu yes the Schmidt 846 01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:09,559 Tom Dobson Jerry Show 847 01:07:06,119 --> 01:07:09,559 aye like Monday hi 848 01:07:10,380 --> 01:07:12,980 serious 849 01:07:15,839 --> 01:07:19,280 I'll go to restaurants 850 01:07:21,070 --> 01:07:25,610 [Laughter] 851 01:07:26,819 --> 01:07:34,380 calling me so can I ask a question from the citizens Tracy when are they going 852 01:07:32,099 --> 01:07:37,500 to fix like 7th and 8th Street and 6th Street 853 01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:42,059 Kyle the uh the plan we were just uh Shane 854 01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:45,480 and I were talking about that earlier the contractors 855 01:07:43,740 --> 01:07:51,359 um working on getting a plan together they expect the concrete guy Crews to be 856 01:07:49,559 --> 01:07:56,579 in to do a little bit of the curb patching and then also the same crew to 857 01:07:54,000 --> 01:08:01,380 do Center Street next week and then the patching they'll be raising manholes up 858 01:07:59,220 --> 01:08:07,859 and doing the final Paving here I would expect in the next few two to three 859 01:08:03,119 --> 01:08:07,859 weeks that's what we're looking at it 860 01:08:11,839 --> 01:08:17,660 and that will be fixed and there'll be no more potholes that's right 861 01:08:19,679 --> 01:08:25,500 okay wait a minute later talking about that 862 01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:30,259 that thing is on hold right now so there's no penalty being paid no it's 863 01:08:27,900 --> 01:08:36,679 off of hold it should be off holes because it's not done clock's ticking so 864 01:08:33,480 --> 01:08:36,679 they don't get it done soon 865 01:08:36,779 --> 01:08:39,779 damages 866 01:08:56,660 --> 01:09:03,660 yeah I didn't think there was very long form 867 01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:08,040 before they went into penalty at all I thought we figured that out it was 868 01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:13,799 when we stopped them because we wanted to do testing the 869 01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:18,480 clock stopped so because that's on us not done that we have to give them the 870 01:09:17,219 --> 01:09:23,640 difference between that and the substantial lesson last fall which is 871 01:09:21,179 --> 01:09:28,080 what we're giving them this year to that difference from when we stopped from all 872 01:09:25,620 --> 01:09:31,620 the substantial deadline so you don't know when that is 873 01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:37,759 if you only have like three and a half four weeks almost got it left and then 874 01:09:34,580 --> 01:09:44,400 but it'll be in kicks in so I'm just gonna ask 875 01:09:42,719 --> 01:09:46,819 is it going to be done by Labor Day Parade 876 01:09:47,339 --> 01:09:50,239 because that's 877 01:09:50,299 --> 01:09:56,940 that's 6th Street it's Emory Street I mean that's 878 01:09:55,260 --> 01:10:00,360 everything that's definitely part of the part of the discussions that we've been 879 01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:04,320 having with them on schedule Shane's yeah 880 01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:07,800 working with the contractor and the parade route too that affects Center 881 01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:12,420 Street as well they're they're working pretty hard to 882 01:10:10,140 --> 01:10:16,199 to get all that curb in and to get people out like I said they're just 883 01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:21,600 broader project update I guess Center Street they're all the utility work is 884 01:10:19,199 --> 01:10:25,380 done they're working their way on Street work getting close all working their way 885 01:10:24,060 --> 01:10:30,900 North all the way up to trunk highway 14. so I saw that they were within 886 01:10:28,140 --> 01:10:35,940 between the last half a block of North Street and the highway there today 887 01:10:33,380 --> 01:10:40,860 digging things out for the street work I would expect to end a week them to be 888 01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:45,179 hauling in and having some gravel on the street again and then the tentative plan 889 01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:49,860 good weather good construction to have curb and gutter and next week out there 890 01:10:48,179 --> 01:10:56,659 on Center Street and I'll like set along with that comes some of the work over on 891 01:10:52,020 --> 01:10:56,659 the previous last year's project and 892 01:10:56,699 --> 01:11:01,679 um but yeah I think they're they're they're working pretty hard to try and 893 01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:07,080 catch up with that and be able to get all the paving done so 894 01:11:04,440 --> 01:11:09,800 that mid-august timing is still the the goal 895 01:11:10,440 --> 01:11:13,820 they start early in the morning 896 01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:21,780 shapings usually there's no no doubt that they haven't been working long 897 01:11:19,679 --> 01:11:25,800 hours they have been working extremely long so I will say that 898 01:11:24,260 --> 01:11:28,280 [Music] nope 899 01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,540 okay the next one 900 01:11:33,060 --> 01:11:39,600 we got resolution 2023-64 can you order number three for 901 01:11:37,679 --> 01:11:42,480 request for extension on Center Street project 902 01:11:40,620 --> 01:11:44,659 okay let's have a discussion about that one 903 01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:55,260 so the extension on Center Street you just said they're on 904 01:11:52,100 --> 01:11:59,880 for the extra dirty took out by the gas station that was just it was already uh 905 01:11:57,900 --> 01:12:05,340 this is going until October that's what I'm wondering is that just the elephant 906 01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:09,440 the pipelining or whatever or I thought it looked like it was for the Center 907 01:12:06,659 --> 01:12:14,000 Street project this resolution 2023-64 is for Center Street project 908 01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:21,480 so they want a Time extension on that project right I thought we couldn't I'm 909 01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:25,100 luck yeah our view or Rod or whatever it is wouldn't allow us to extend it 910 01:12:25,140 --> 01:12:31,800 yeah so that's that's the ask is the uh the time extension on the project I 911 01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:36,659 think what they had provided um showed 30 days 912 01:12:33,659 --> 01:12:38,780 to the overall contract um 913 01:12:39,300 --> 01:12:49,020 uh that's the next one sorry this one says it's 914 01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:53,699 yeah um 915 01:12:50,460 --> 01:12:59,340 their ask there is I I think um initially they're I mean they're they're 916 01:12:57,060 --> 01:13:05,219 asking that on the front end just um I think due to having a long a long spring 917 01:13:02,820 --> 01:13:09,360 season a long winter season and into the project and then 918 01:13:07,199 --> 01:13:13,260 um from a contractual side of things or they're asking for that time based on 919 01:13:12,540 --> 01:13:18,840 um I guess their their interpretation of of 920 01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:22,320 the contract but um I can maybe comment on that in a 921 01:13:20,460 --> 01:13:27,239 minute but in a yeah from a from a greater perspective I think they're 922 01:13:24,540 --> 01:13:32,280 still working as if you know there's no extension they're working toward that 923 01:13:28,980 --> 01:13:38,040 mid-august date at this point and you know with further discussion with City 924 01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:42,659 and with rural development I think you know rural developments not formal 925 01:13:40,739 --> 01:13:46,260 but offhand comment was that they didn't think that they would approve this 926 01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:52,020 particular ask or this particular change order what's being asked 927 01:13:48,020 --> 01:13:57,000 that's not to say that would not approve correct from this means if we don't get 928 01:13:54,179 --> 01:14:02,340 the work done was it my understanding we lose their grant their funding then 929 01:14:00,060 --> 01:14:05,699 that is something there that we've had a lot of Shane had mentioned earlier a lot 930 01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:10,140 of discussions and calls with rural development just on the on all of the 931 01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:14,640 project basis and that is something that rural development wants all of the 932 01:14:12,060 --> 01:14:17,719 Project funding to be to be used before end of September 933 01:14:20,239 --> 01:14:28,560 we do have an August 15th deadline on this particular contract 934 01:14:26,100 --> 01:14:36,420 so I'm confused okay if it's not done by August 15th no 935 01:14:32,580 --> 01:14:41,400 no the contract is through August 15th but r d will let it go to September or 936 01:14:40,440 --> 01:14:46,380 not based on what's being asked right now in 937 01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:49,440 this particular change order Rd it commented that they didn't think they 938 01:14:47,820 --> 01:14:55,739 would approve this particular change order as to asked so then how are you 939 01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:59,820 asking us to yeah Rd had um told me that their formal process is we need to take 940 01:14:58,020 --> 01:15:03,540 the city next needs to make the decision on it before it would go to them being 941 01:15:01,739 --> 01:15:09,440 the last step in the the process so 942 01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,440 um when did they start this project 943 01:15:10,199 --> 01:15:17,239 but when did they initially plan on starting the project May 10th no I 944 01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:23,640 thought it was in 8th March there they spent all those charts I 945 01:15:19,980 --> 01:15:27,900 think just a various and paper I'm not sure which one you're looking at the the 946 01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:32,540 initial schedule provided at the pre-construction meeting did show May 947 01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:32,540 8th as well 948 01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:44,219 to me they scheduled it 949 01:15:42,540 --> 01:15:47,340 they started you know on schedule according to their scheduled to 950 01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:50,820 pre-construction meeting on May 8th I think it started on May 8th I don't see 951 01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:56,219 any reason why they shouldn't complete it by August 15th or August 19th I think 952 01:15:54,360 --> 01:16:00,719 now with the extra three days for dirt contaminated soil 953 01:15:58,860 --> 01:16:06,739 yeah it was three and a half days yeah yeah I'll give them three and a half 954 01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,739 days I already did 955 01:16:07,460 --> 01:16:15,480 rain events I think there was only one very heavy rain that maybe affected the 956 01:16:12,719 --> 01:16:21,060 projects ability to be out there working otherwise they were there 957 01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:25,620 and they're they're latching on to abnormal weather conditions in the 958 01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:30,719 contract to support their request for an extension but a lot of those weather 959 01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:36,000 events were well before the start date and they're trying to support that with 960 01:16:32,940 --> 01:16:39,600 mndot's schedule of days that mndot's determined it was not feasible to work 961 01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:45,540 but that's not applicable to the definitions of this 962 01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:48,000 contract and I'm comfortable I mean it becomes an issue if they want to 963 01:16:46,739 --> 01:16:52,380 litigate it then you have to litigate it but with those dates occurring for the 964 01:16:50,820 --> 01:16:57,679 start date that I'm pretty comfortable with the city taking the position to 965 01:16:54,420 --> 01:16:57,679 deny the request 966 01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:03,600 and especially if you have a indication from r d 967 01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:08,460 from a practical standpoint that they're not in favor of it it kind of indicates 968 01:17:06,179 --> 01:17:12,960 that even if you were to approve it then it's likely not going to be finally 969 01:17:10,739 --> 01:17:17,820 approved by them so we can't take them we're the ones 970 01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:21,600 supposedly losing the funding when it comes down to that and they're not 971 01:17:19,260 --> 01:17:28,620 honoring the timelines then does a construction company pay what we don't 972 01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:33,600 get is the whole Grant or money funding no in Jeopardy probably not if we would 973 01:17:31,739 --> 01:17:39,120 extend this if we don't extend it they they have to 974 01:17:37,620 --> 01:17:43,320 finish it they want to get paid 975 01:17:41,460 --> 01:17:50,100 and they knew it was a tight deadline when they bid on this project 976 01:17:46,260 --> 01:17:54,239 I'll make the resident or the motion to deny resolution 2023-64. 977 01:17:54,600 --> 01:18:01,760 I'll second that first and second any other discussion 978 01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,760 roll call please 979 01:18:02,580 --> 01:18:08,940 all right George landite hi 980 01:18:06,659 --> 01:18:18,840 Tom Dobson Jerry showings aye Schmidt yes Jenner 981 01:18:12,659 --> 01:18:22,820 vizu yes Dave Peaks hi mayor Corman hi it's gonna be a fun day for him tomorrow 982 01:18:20,340 --> 01:18:27,600 yeah sorry guys just a quick follow-up to that too I do 983 01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:30,659 want to note though that I mean just because this particular instance or 984 01:18:29,219 --> 01:18:35,280 asked for a certain amount of days you know this 30 days it doesn't preclude 985 01:18:33,060 --> 01:18:41,400 the city from not looking at another request for extension for whatever other 986 01:18:37,199 --> 01:18:45,000 reason or it USDA was clear to say you know even if we don't approve it it 987 01:18:43,140 --> 01:18:49,100 doesn't require the city to enforce liquidated damages if they're a day late 988 01:18:46,980 --> 01:18:53,400 or a week late or whatever and they feel that the contractor is making every 989 01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:58,500 effort that they can to get it done on time it's not necessarily saying you 990 01:18:56,580 --> 01:19:02,940 have to hold the contractor to that date or to those liquidated damages it's just 991 01:19:00,540 --> 01:19:07,140 this particular request so something that so they're saying these 992 01:19:05,580 --> 01:19:11,040 things but they're the ones giving us the funding 993 01:19:08,219 --> 01:19:16,440 so when when do they start withholding the funding because it's not done so 994 01:19:14,100 --> 01:19:21,840 then then the liquidated damage just comes out of the contractor's pocket 995 01:19:19,199 --> 01:19:26,280 or their insurance company liquidity damages a result of the contract you're 996 01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:31,500 not finishing the work on the date that was included in the contract and that's 997 01:19:28,860 --> 01:19:35,179 what the contractors charge that Kaiser comes out of their final pay order or 998 01:19:34,020 --> 01:19:38,520 the city assesses that to them as additional 999 01:19:37,260 --> 01:19:43,320 costs usually comes out of the final payout okay but my son how I was under 1000 01:19:41,340 --> 01:19:49,560 the impression and I'm kind of late to this construction business and it's just 1001 01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:53,940 my first few months on the job I thought there was the potential I 1002 01:19:52,440 --> 01:19:58,980 thought I heard Eric say there was a potential to lose funding 1003 01:19:56,100 --> 01:20:04,320 not true the potential to lose funding is for them not finishing on time the 1004 01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:10,620 liquid in Damages are what we charge the contractor for not finishing on time yes 1005 01:20:06,540 --> 01:20:14,820 but our our funding source are they going to withhold money from the project 1006 01:20:12,179 --> 01:20:20,159 and not pay Shane do you want to comment on this or you want me to or funding 1007 01:20:17,340 --> 01:20:23,940 things just slightly outside of the my side of things but I can as far as 1008 01:20:22,380 --> 01:20:28,020 finding this project we have to have it all expended by the end of September 1009 01:20:26,159 --> 01:20:33,780 and when we say you say this project this is the greater 3A this is three a 1010 01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:39,900 one two Center Street the lining all of them in total yeah not necessarily just 1011 01:20:36,780 --> 01:20:44,460 including fixing up yeah this so all of that has to be done by 1012 01:20:42,060 --> 01:20:47,960 September what 30 30th yeah 1013 01:20:53,280 --> 01:21:00,780 um okay so we could lose our source of funding well I'm not going to sit here 1014 01:20:58,620 --> 01:21:04,860 and worry about that right now no well that's to me like a big deal we're not 1015 01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:09,600 going but we're not extending our Jam we're just saying no you're gonna get it 1016 01:21:07,020 --> 01:21:13,800 done according to the contract even if you have to work 1017 01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:19,040 yeah and until all night keep those people up that live 1018 01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:19,040 on the the street 1019 01:21:19,820 --> 01:21:28,400 my heart of hearing naturally I don't think they've worked any Saturdays yet 1020 01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:28,400 so they have put long days in yes 1021 01:21:28,460 --> 01:21:37,640 I've seen people work Saturdays if they're running behind or need to catch 1022 01:21:33,420 --> 01:21:43,820 up so it's not the end of the world next so what's the next change order 1023 01:21:41,940 --> 01:21:49,080 I'll get resolution 2023-67 for change order number one 1024 01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:56,820 request for extension um 67 or 66. 1025 01:21:51,860 --> 01:22:02,120 67. 66 was the the donations that we attended no 6E and then this Mark 1026 01:21:59,699 --> 01:22:07,020 drawing in here it says 66 resolution approving change 1027 01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:12,179 order one for the phase three sanitary sanitary silver improvements so this is 1028 01:22:09,540 --> 01:22:17,300 67 67 on the printed version on the printed one on the 67. the one that got 1029 01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:17,300 published is 66. 1030 01:22:17,780 --> 01:22:25,699 I'm just pointing it out making sure which number we're playing 1031 01:22:23,219 --> 01:22:25,699 with here 1032 01:22:27,179 --> 01:22:31,980 we had 266s gotcha 1033 01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:41,719 make a note of that just double check it just to make sure 1034 01:22:39,300 --> 01:22:41,719 that we're 1035 01:22:44,820 --> 01:22:51,659 okay so this is basically this change order 1036 01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:56,699 request is to give them time to complete the project 1037 01:22:54,120 --> 01:23:01,860 being it took so long for the state to come up with their bonding 1038 01:22:59,159 --> 01:23:06,600 Bill and providing us with funding for PFA 1039 01:23:03,060 --> 01:23:09,600 to ensure that we can do this project um 1040 01:23:07,679 --> 01:23:14,159 so that there's some a fair amount of logistics into what our 1041 01:23:11,699 --> 01:23:19,500 meetings were a lot of meetings were about in the last 1042 01:23:16,140 --> 01:23:22,920 couple weeks with Rd and a little bit with PFA but 1043 01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:27,840 um so this is gonna 1044 01:23:25,739 --> 01:23:31,980 so halfway through the project will burn through our grant funds so you may 1045 01:23:30,659 --> 01:23:37,800 question well you know this end date past the end of September 1046 01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:42,000 so what we're going to do is we're eligible through Rd so this is an 1047 01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:49,080 RD only project and it's mostly Grant 1048 01:23:45,060 --> 01:23:55,980 so part of one of the one of the eligible Grant items is interim interest 1049 01:23:53,040 --> 01:24:02,400 for the Rd bonds we have been paying that out of pocket so we're going to do 1050 01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:08,100 is reimburse ourselves through Rd to cover the end of the project 1051 01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:11,040 so our do be wiped out basically the end of September 1052 01:24:09,480 --> 01:24:16,679 and then they're going to pay I think it's around 800 000 is is what it was so 1053 01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:20,820 that gets us more than halfway through the project thing it's a one point 1054 01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:26,219 three million I think with all the addendo instructions so 1055 01:24:24,060 --> 01:24:29,219 that'll get us through to the end to clean up whatever's left and then 1056 01:24:27,900 --> 01:24:33,420 whatever's not I guess whatever we don't use out of 1057 01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:36,179 that interim interest we're still eligible 1058 01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:40,080 just to have because we've already paid it out 1059 01:24:37,380 --> 01:24:45,480 so that's going to be our our buffer at the end of the project so 1060 01:24:42,179 --> 01:24:49,800 if that makes sense so it's not an easy thing to grasp but 1061 01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:54,900 does the weather affect them doing the lining at home 1062 01:24:52,040 --> 01:25:00,360 I'm not saying 20 below you know working in January but I mean a lot less and a 1063 01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:04,440 lot less than a typical construction project I mean when when 1064 01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:07,739 you're talking cool I think they'd actually prefer the Colder Weather if 1065 01:25:05,820 --> 01:25:10,500 they need that to keep their resin in the materials cold they'll probably show 1066 01:25:09,239 --> 01:25:15,659 up with an air-conditioned truck actually for the interior Hills but 1067 01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:19,260 um weather is you know when you're not doing all the Excavating and have soils 1068 01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:22,739 involved you don't have it's not as much of a factor 1069 01:25:20,820 --> 01:25:27,800 I won't say it's zero Factor but it's not as big effect it's a lot less I 1070 01:25:25,380 --> 01:25:27,800 gotcha 1071 01:25:28,820 --> 01:25:34,320 well I make the motion to prove resolution 2023-67. 1072 01:25:37,380 --> 01:25:42,900 do we have a second I'll second that 1073 01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:46,560 we have a first and a second do I have any other discussion 1074 01:25:44,820 --> 01:25:51,840 roll call please Jerry Jones hi George landite hi I'm 1075 01:25:50,520 --> 01:26:01,100 Dobson hi Seth Schmidt yes General yes I am 1076 01:25:57,260 --> 01:26:01,100 mayor Corman hi 1077 01:26:03,170 --> 01:26:12,060 [Music] I will go to 9B 1078 01:26:10,139 --> 01:26:17,820 um I'll turn this one over to Matt um update on cannabis laws 1079 01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:21,320 as of August 2023. mayor council will try to be as brief and succinct as 1080 01:26:19,620 --> 01:26:27,239 possible meetings running all along August 1st of 1081 01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:31,139 this year marijuana is becoming legal as you know on the legislature passed that 1082 01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:35,239 recently I think at the end of May so what that entails and allows is that 1083 01:26:32,820 --> 01:26:40,860 people 21 or older can use and possess certain marijuana products and certain 1084 01:26:38,820 --> 01:26:45,840 uh ounces or weights of marijuana in the 1085 01:26:44,639 --> 01:26:49,980 state of Minnesota what's going to happen first is just the 1086 01:26:48,239 --> 01:26:53,639 use and possession so it's no longer criminal you can use or possess the 1087 01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:57,420 amounts that I've listed in the memorandum that I previously circulated 1088 01:26:55,679 --> 01:27:03,960 that you can look at that at your own Leisure that just kind of gives you an 1089 01:26:59,219 --> 01:27:09,659 idea of what's permissible essentially it's permissible in home the plants that 1090 01:27:07,199 --> 01:27:13,500 you can grow you have to at least keep them from public view you can grow up to 1091 01:27:11,580 --> 01:27:18,600 eight plants but it has to be unlocked and an enclosed and not viewable from 1092 01:27:15,780 --> 01:27:22,860 the public so there's safeguards that the legislator have included I can't say 1093 01:27:20,940 --> 01:27:27,000 that they've included all of those in this legislation but essentially it's 1094 01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:32,040 legal for people to possess and use marijuana certain products certain 1095 01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:36,659 weights in the state of Minnesota the legislation did not prohibit or ban the 1096 01:27:34,980 --> 01:27:39,600 use of possession of marijuana in public places 1097 01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:44,460 that is something that's on the individual studies to pass ordinances to 1098 01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:48,300 regulate that so I would encourage the city to do that if that's something that 1099 01:27:46,020 --> 01:27:55,139 you're concerned about is that you can ban it from general public places so any 1100 01:27:51,420 --> 01:28:00,780 any public place the the not the not the possession but the use so that would 1101 01:27:57,360 --> 01:28:06,300 include smoking ingesting Edibles or whatever other products that are 1102 01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:10,560 permissible I I don't know I'm not familiar with that so 1103 01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:15,900 um but the city can ban that in public places so that would include city 1104 01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:21,300 streets city parks the city needs to pass the ordinance to do that 1105 01:28:18,199 --> 01:28:24,780 so if you want to do that the first step would be to and they've indicated that 1106 01:28:23,159 --> 01:28:29,520 in my memorandum authorized me to draft emergency and regular ordinance the city 1107 01:28:28,020 --> 01:28:35,460 council is going to have to first pass an emergency ordinance given the the 1108 01:28:32,219 --> 01:28:40,500 time frame before this law becomes valid because you're so the charter requires 1109 01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:45,179 for a regular ordinance for the city council first to approve the written 1110 01:28:42,719 --> 01:28:48,960 draft than to publish it hold the public hearing and then actually pass the 1111 01:28:47,100 --> 01:28:53,219 ordinance that's going to require at least two meetings so that's going to be 1112 01:28:50,699 --> 01:28:57,480 Beyond August 1st so what I recommend if that's something the city council wants 1113 01:28:54,600 --> 01:29:02,580 to do is at the next meeting I can have a emergency ordinance prepared that 1114 01:28:59,940 --> 01:29:07,020 would ban the use of marijuana marijuana products in public 1115 01:29:04,699 --> 01:29:11,340 and then that would span the gap until you pass the regular ordinance and then 1116 01:29:09,540 --> 01:29:14,940 that would take effect and revert back to the the time frame in which the 1117 01:29:13,679 --> 01:29:18,000 emergency ordinance passed so there'd be no lapse and you would be able to 1118 01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:21,360 regulate that um 1119 01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:25,320 minor notes to to make uh for your consideration is 1120 01:29:22,860 --> 01:29:28,980 okay so if someone is using in public what's the penalty it's a petty 1121 01:29:26,460 --> 01:29:34,920 misdemeanor that's a penalty of up to 300 that's it they can't be jailed all 1122 01:29:32,699 --> 01:29:40,320 they can do is be cited I'm still on certain whether and I'm assuming you can 1123 01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:46,620 is you can confiscate the product if they are using in public 1124 01:29:43,860 --> 01:29:49,980 that's a question I don't know yet um so a lot of these fingers are going 1125 01:29:48,300 --> 01:29:56,219 to need to be figured out it's still relatively new but if you see someone in 1126 01:29:52,739 --> 01:30:00,900 public and they're smoking marijuana you can report that to law enforcement they 1127 01:29:58,380 --> 01:30:05,340 can cite them but that's it I'm assuming you'd be able to confiscate 1128 01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:10,500 that because then the evidence it eliminates yes so it removes it for that 1129 01:30:08,219 --> 01:30:17,280 instance but they could light up smoke again and that's another 1130 01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:25,040 citation but so the effectiveness of the punishment of it is not great however if 1131 01:30:21,540 --> 01:30:29,940 you would possess or use or keep marijuana or marijuana products above 1132 01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:34,260 the permissible amounts there's additional criminal penalties for that 1133 01:30:31,679 --> 01:30:38,639 and there's felony gross misdemeanor misdemeanor so there's more significant 1134 01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:43,020 penalties if you would have more than 1135 01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:47,280 two pounds of marijuana at you at your home 1136 01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:50,280 that's that's what's permissible but but that that would be illegal if you have 1137 01:30:48,659 --> 01:30:54,540 more of that amount and that's where law enforcement would get involved in could 1138 01:30:52,199 --> 01:30:59,580 prosecute them for that that's a whole other issue because you got to get in 1139 01:30:56,100 --> 01:31:04,380 the house and uh so I don't think this is well thought out a lot of cities are 1140 01:31:01,980 --> 01:31:08,100 scrambling to do this Marshall and I think Duluth 1141 01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:12,440 and my research was passing an ordinance to Bandit this evening so there are some 1142 01:31:10,500 --> 01:31:17,520 templates to go off of in terms of banning the public use of it but 1143 01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:23,040 essentially that's all the city can do is the public use the private stuff they 1144 01:31:20,699 --> 01:31:27,780 have to comply with the amounts that the legislature passed if they possess or 1145 01:31:25,860 --> 01:31:31,260 use more than that then that's that's a crime but there's that's a 1146 01:31:30,060 --> 01:31:34,860 separate issue because you have to get in the home and turn force that and all 1147 01:31:32,580 --> 01:31:38,100 that in terms of Licensing the city really doesn't have to worry 1148 01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:42,900 anything about until at least January 1 2025. 1149 01:31:39,780 --> 01:31:49,080 because the state has not created the Office of cannabis management yet until 1150 01:31:46,020 --> 01:31:53,699 they do they can't issue licenses for retail dispensaries so you're not going 1151 01:31:52,440 --> 01:31:57,239 to have to worry about that at least immediately however 1152 01:31:55,679 --> 01:32:01,739 how you're going to need to worry about that is how you Zone it 1153 01:31:59,460 --> 01:32:06,000 so you can place it within certain areas of the city and I spoke with Shane about 1154 01:32:04,139 --> 01:32:09,179 this probably the zoning commission should be involved in this is 1155 01:32:07,440 --> 01:32:12,540 identifying where you want to specifically Zone it I 1156 01:32:11,219 --> 01:32:16,739 would probably suggest an industrial area where there's not a lot of traffic 1157 01:32:13,860 --> 01:32:21,840 and it's set aside but that's something the city would need to consider is you 1158 01:32:19,380 --> 01:32:26,100 can regulate where these businesses are located and that's important because you 1159 01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:32,480 don't want that near school near Church downtown businesses to have that foot 1160 01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:32,480 traffic and that clientele 1161 01:32:39,679 --> 01:32:47,699 so the city has to issue at least one license if 1162 01:32:45,540 --> 01:32:52,020 someone would be approved by the state office and would apply to the study the 1163 01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:56,639 city would have to issue a license to that entity 1164 01:32:53,760 --> 01:33:01,620 the uh one issue one license for every 12 500 residents obviously Tracy is 1165 01:32:59,460 --> 01:33:05,719 below that so the maximum that you would have to issue would be one 1166 01:33:03,300 --> 01:33:12,000 marijuana retail license however there's some Provisions in the law that 1167 01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:16,139 lion County probably has a twenty five thousand dollar 25 1168 01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:20,760 000 population um State Statute says that if 1169 01:33:18,780 --> 01:33:24,120 so they in line counting technically they would have to issue two so the 1170 01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:29,580 statute says if there's already two existing licenses within the county 1171 01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:34,800 the city would not have to issue one so if Marshall has two and Marshall 1172 01:33:31,679 --> 01:33:38,460 would be permitted two licenses if they're issued two licenses in Marshall 1173 01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:41,880 the city could say we don't have to issue one because 1174 01:33:39,780 --> 01:33:45,360 there's already two that would satisfied that two license for twelve thousand 1175 01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:51,179 five hundred residents in the county okay what if you issued a license to 1176 01:33:48,300 --> 01:33:55,040 someone that did not sell just got the license to stop anybody else from doing 1177 01:33:52,860 --> 01:33:55,040 it 1178 01:33:56,179 --> 01:34:01,679 that I can't answer because I'm assuming they're going to have restrictions it's 1179 01:34:00,060 --> 01:34:05,880 going to be very cost prohibitive I'd imagine to go through that procedure to 1180 01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:09,360 get licensed by the state um because there's going to be a lot of 1181 01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:13,860 safeguards I'm in place and capital requirements so 1182 01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:17,100 I I don't know how likely that would be George if you spend all that money 1183 01:34:15,659 --> 01:34:22,199 you're going to want to make that Revenue back what about you said public 1184 01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:26,219 places you know not picking on business let's say 1185 01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:30,120 Midwest say the lumber yard say the Caboose could they 1186 01:34:27,900 --> 01:34:33,540 smoke it there nope um including the packet thank you for reminding me that 1187 01:34:31,739 --> 01:34:38,280 there's already existing Minnesota indoor Clean Air Act that already puts 1188 01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:41,840 on their lot though that already prohibits 1189 01:34:39,780 --> 01:34:41,840 um 1190 01:34:41,940 --> 01:34:47,580 people from smoking inside and that would include marijuana and vape pen so 1191 01:34:45,420 --> 01:34:50,400 you you already can't use or you can't smoke 1192 01:34:48,659 --> 01:34:55,739 the Restriction doesn't preclude ingesting marijuana inside public 1193 01:34:52,739 --> 01:35:00,780 buildings or at least um yeah public buildings until the city passes an 1194 01:34:57,480 --> 01:35:04,500 ordinance Banning that now let's say um the Caboose 1195 01:35:02,580 --> 01:35:09,659 someone Smokes on there that's a private property so they have to be given 1196 01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:13,679 permission from the owner to use marijuana so that's where businesses 1197 01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:18,719 need to be aware of that and they can post signs we do not permit smoking or 1198 01:35:17,100 --> 01:35:23,580 use of marijuana or marijuana products on this property that's how they would 1199 01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:29,400 Safeguard themselves and would allow law enforcement to get involved to 1200 01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:34,020 um basically enforce that but for the city what I'm asking is if 1201 01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:37,620 you're interested I don't know what your thoughts are but 1202 01:35:35,460 --> 01:35:41,760 um if you if you want me to as I detailed the first step would be 1203 01:35:39,659 --> 01:35:45,719 emergency ordinance and a regular ordinance the timing requires that 1204 01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:49,800 emergency ordinance first but just authorization for me to do that I can 1205 01:35:47,820 --> 01:35:53,400 have one ready for your next meeting and then subsequently you would pass a 1206 01:35:51,480 --> 01:35:59,460 regular ordinance so what do we do between August 1st and August 14th 1207 01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:04,020 is that your major emergency it would be in effect by them 1208 01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:08,340 or wait your next meetings okay your next meeting is until the 14th you're 1209 01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:12,239 right yeah my months are getting your emergency one they cover the first 1210 01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:15,780 through the 14th um 1211 01:36:12,900 --> 01:36:20,280 I could have something ready for you and this would require a special meaning but 1212 01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:25,739 I could have something enacted by next Monday 1213 01:36:22,500 --> 01:36:29,639 the emergency ordinance it requires it takes effect 24 hours after being 1214 01:36:27,719 --> 01:36:33,719 adopted by this city doesn't require any publication so 1215 01:36:31,739 --> 01:36:39,300 probably you'd want that in place by the 30th so then you're looking at Friday 1216 01:36:37,440 --> 01:36:44,100 so what happens if we wait until the 14th 1217 01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:48,000 technically people could walk walk down the street and smoke marijuana I think 1218 01:36:46,020 --> 01:36:52,100 it'd be a lot cleaner to put it into effect by the first so people don't have 1219 01:36:50,340 --> 01:36:57,239 two weeks to do it and test it out and not get full 1220 01:36:55,560 --> 01:37:01,320 they can't do it and then all of a sudden come the 14th 1221 01:36:59,159 --> 01:37:06,960 while I was just doing it the other day and Jason didn't stop me or anything I 1222 01:37:04,260 --> 01:37:12,360 think it'd be cleaner and easier to have it done before the first do you have any 1223 01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:16,739 recommendations Mr Officer back there there's a lot of confusion going on with 1224 01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:19,560 this right now that's part of it why I didn't bring 1225 01:37:18,179 --> 01:37:22,860 this to you early because there's just a lot of 1226 01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:27,360 research and people are scrambling to figure out kind of how do you regulate 1227 01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:31,020 when you're putting on a training for law enforcement until the 27th of this 1228 01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:36,659 month it goes in effect at first 1229 01:37:33,780 --> 01:37:40,139 so you said you could get us an emergency ordinance if you have a 1230 01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:43,980 meeting scheduled for it probably have to be this Friday 28th 28th 1231 01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:48,659 um technically I mean you could have you 1232 01:37:46,260 --> 01:37:54,120 could have a meeting on next Monday um it might not go in effect until like 1233 01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:57,600 12 o'clock on August 1st depending upon when you have your meeting to be 1234 01:37:55,320 --> 01:38:03,480 technical maybe it's 24 hours a special meeting either either way yeah are 1235 01:38:01,260 --> 01:38:08,699 people going to be around on the 28th I'm not 1236 01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:13,980 I'm a B I will be well depending on when you have it I work that day 1237 01:38:12,060 --> 01:38:18,719 um let's say six o'clock at night if you're gonna yeah I could do that it's 1238 01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:25,199 just I'm the only one working on Friday Forum so you need at least two-thirds 1239 01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:28,580 votes into approved copy here a Monday Friday 1240 01:38:33,060 --> 01:38:40,139 Tom would be I will be here so I'm the only one gone 1241 01:38:38,159 --> 01:38:44,699 so let's do it and as long as you have it 1242 01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:48,620 typed up we should be fine Sheen without you shouldn't we yeah 1243 01:38:46,679 --> 01:38:54,600 Diane's not here this week either then it's down here 1244 01:38:52,020 --> 01:38:58,320 and then if you do adopt it you just have to post it in three at least three 1245 01:38:56,520 --> 01:39:02,219 conspicuous places so obviously city office you'd probably want to put some 1246 01:39:00,540 --> 01:39:05,840 signage up public parks 1247 01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:05,840 um 1248 01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:13,139 but it could just be laminated signs it doesn't have to be three conspicuous 1249 01:39:10,620 --> 01:39:17,159 places that's what the charter says but later on you'd probably want to post 1250 01:39:15,239 --> 01:39:20,880 that in your parks and such um 1251 01:39:18,060 --> 01:39:25,560 so that people know and they notify business owners and such that they could 1252 01:39:22,980 --> 01:39:30,420 put the signs up as well is Diane back Monday Monday 1253 01:39:27,900 --> 01:39:34,739 she should maybe make the signs Monday just has to be three 1254 01:39:32,639 --> 01:39:38,520 three signs and we can post them wherever I mean we can decide in the 1255 01:39:36,480 --> 01:39:41,699 three conspicuous places so whatever I mean Council that knows how to make 1256 01:39:39,719 --> 01:39:47,699 signs Friday the 28th at 6. 1257 01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:51,600 yeah I just said that I just doesn't matter to me because how early can you 1258 01:39:49,620 --> 01:39:56,580 make it yeah that would probably be the earliest 6 30 works good too it won't 1259 01:39:54,480 --> 01:40:01,320 take very long no because that's the only thing we're going to I'm gonna 1260 01:39:58,679 --> 01:40:05,460 sex can can you hear it you can I can I'll sign you a draft and 1261 01:40:03,659 --> 01:40:09,179 you guys can note any comments so then when you show up it should be ready to 1262 01:40:07,199 --> 01:40:14,960 pass like very briefly so it won't take forever you don't want this televised 1263 01:40:11,340 --> 01:40:14,960 it doesn't happen it doesn't have to be 1264 01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:22,219 you know how to run the recorder right not here you're not here either don't 1265 01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:22,219 look at me Jeff knows 1266 01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:30,360 he could record itself yeah I can run walk you through it too yeah we can do 1267 01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:34,460 that on Wednesday no you're not oh you're gone today oh okay 1268 01:40:34,639 --> 01:40:37,639 yeah 1269 01:40:40,070 --> 01:40:47,280 [Music] so if you guys want to do that just uh 1270 01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:51,840 need a motion for a meeting that we have a special meeting on Friday July 28th at 1271 01:40:50,460 --> 01:40:58,860 6 pm to do an emergency ordinance concerning 1272 01:40:55,500 --> 01:41:04,100 marijuana in public places first and second any further discussion 1273 01:41:00,900 --> 01:41:04,100 Tim did you have a question 1274 01:41:08,480 --> 01:41:16,020 all right all right 1275 01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:21,179 Dave teags hi the interviews you yes Seth Schmidt yes 1276 01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:27,020 Tom Dobson Jerry Jones hi George landday hi mayor 1277 01:41:24,480 --> 01:41:27,020 Corman hi 1278 01:41:28,739 --> 01:41:35,580 hi you did good now do we have to do something in order to be able to accept 1279 01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:40,260 him to make to make up he's talking to the 1280 01:41:38,820 --> 01:41:43,560 people he's doing no 1281 01:41:41,340 --> 01:41:47,940 okay because then we just have the full 1282 01:41:45,300 --> 01:41:51,840 resolution on the 14th oh he'll draft that 1283 01:41:49,020 --> 01:41:55,920 in accordance with our village of our city code 1284 01:41:53,940 --> 01:42:00,060 I think he already looked at that as far as as far as the resolution you don't 1285 01:41:57,600 --> 01:42:04,860 need any guidance from the council at this point for no it's just going to be 1286 01:42:02,040 --> 01:42:09,600 a it'll be a kind of a placeholder to ban public use until you guys 1287 01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:13,619 adopt the regular ornaments which will be more detailed and I'll 1288 01:42:11,940 --> 01:42:18,300 go through the city code there are some changes that need to be made to kind of 1289 01:42:15,659 --> 01:42:22,440 incorporate this into that but um I'll I'll keep you advised of that so as long 1290 01:42:20,699 --> 01:42:28,260 as we all do our homework it should take us five minutes I will make it my effort 1291 01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:33,060 to have everything right and ready for you so that it is five minutes yes 1292 01:42:33,179 --> 01:42:38,760 okay do we have a motion to adjourn it's almost 1293 01:42:36,480 --> 01:42:48,309 all those in favor all right 1294 01:42:40,690 --> 01:42:48,309 [Music]