[0:07] - Welcome to the regular
[0:12] city council meeting for Troutdale for Tuesday,
[0:16] April 14th, 2026.
[0:20] We'll start off with the who, who's first tonight. Deputy
[0:23] - Councilor Allen.
[0:25] - Councilor Allen. Would you lead us
[0:27] in the Pledge of Allegiance?
[0:34] - I pledge - Allegiance to the flag
[0:36] of the United States of America
[0:38] and to the Republic for which it stands,
[0:40] one Nation under God, indivisible, with Liberty
[0:45] - Justice.
[0:52] - Okay, thank you. Sarah, please call roll
[0:55] - Councilor Andrews.
[0:57] Here. Councilor Allen? Here. Councilor one. Present.
[1:01] Councilor White. Here. Councilor Davidon? Here.
[1:05] Councilor Lee? Here. Here.
[1:07] - Here. Alright Mike, is there an agenda update?
[1:12] - I have no update Mayor. Alright,
[1:16] - We'll move on to public comment.
[1:20] Public comment on non agenda and consent.
[1:23] Agenda items is welcome.
[1:25] At this time, public comment on agenda item
[1:29] will be taken at the time the item is considered.
[1:32] Public comments should be directed to presiding officer
[1:35] and limited to matters of community interest
[1:37] or related to matters which may
[1:39] or could come before the council.
[1:42] Each speaker shall be limited to five minutes
[1:44] for each agenda item
[1:46] unless a different amount of time is allowed
[1:48] by the presiding officer with consent of the council.
[1:52] The council and mayor should avoid immediate
[1:54] or protracted responses to citizen comments.
[1:58] So at this time I will invite anyone participating
[2:03] via Zoom to address the council during public comment.
[2:08] Anyone?
[2:11] - Mayor Paul Wilcox Trial tale?
[2:13] - Yes, Paul, go right ahead.
[2:16] - Thanks. Dave wasn't planned to have a public comment
[2:20] but I was looking at the
[2:22] updates on the Glendo parking exemption rules just
[2:27] before the meeting and I noticed that it is
[2:30] per resident two plate numbers per resident.
[2:33] I'm wondering if that was the intent.
[2:36] So you had a four person household that could
[2:39] register eight different tag numbers.
[2:41] So I was just curious about, you know,
[2:43] if that was correct or not.
[2:45] I would expect it to be two, two plates per household.
[2:51] - Alright, thank you.
[2:53] I mean I frankly I think it's two spots per resident
[3:00] that that was my intent anyway, but I don't know for sure.
[3:07] Alright, how about anyone else on Zoom wish
[3:10] to address the company?
[3:13] How about in the room? This is time for public comment.
[3:16] Yes, I will please come forward.
[3:33] - Hello? Goodnight. My name is Sal Pompeo
[3:35] and I'm the owner of Restaurant Pompeo.
[3:38] And I come, I come here to ask a question in the
[3:44] 2 57 when you passed
[3:49] Cherry Park, it's the light, they create a sidewalk
[3:54] in the, in the center of the, the, you know, the,
[3:59] the center line they create over their
[4:03] sidewalk two weeks ago.
[4:05] A big crash over there because they don't put any signs
[4:10] when you driving that way that sidewalk they, you don't saw
[4:15] because it's that way that car jump
[4:20] in the sidewalk and crash like this
[4:22] because they create a in the center in the sidewalk
[4:26] in the center, in the center, in the line of the center.
[4:29] They create a sidewalk, maybe four Crosswalk
[4:35] and you know that crosswalk is between two curbs
[4:39] and it's very dangerous curbs.
[4:41] And I request to the engineer,
[4:45] while they don't put any signs before the accident,
[4:49] after the accident, they already put
[4:51] signs, they put a big signs.
[4:54] But why did they put the signs before?
[4:57] And if county make that mistake, if you go to pay
[5:01] for the person, have the accident
[5:03] because if they forgot to put the signs,
[5:06] it's a sidewalk in the center of the street I think.
[5:09] So they need to put like everywhere,
[5:11] you know they put the sticks like this for you can don't go.
[5:15] So I request to you guys call man county
[5:20] and bring the engineer to explain us
[5:24] why they not put the signs before the accident.
[5:28] Why after the accident they put the signs
[5:31] and if they go to pay for the car accident,
[5:37] you know, because if they forgot to do something,
[5:40] I think someone normal continue they needs to pay
[5:42] for the crash anyway.
[5:44] That is my my suggestion.
[5:46] Can I respond And as the engineer, can I
[5:49] - Respond to that real quick?
[5:51] Yes. Hold on. Sul. Yes, yes.
[5:54] John's on our on, excuse me, has some insight.
[5:58] - There were posts were posts. No, before the accident,
[6:02] - Before the post I - I took 'em all out.
[6:05] Sorry about that. Yeah, if you went by right
[6:09] after the accident, all the posts were laid out flat,
[6:12] he took 'em all out.
[6:14] Little sports car convertible anyway
[6:17] and then that's why the orange
[6:19] temporary cones are there now.
[6:20] But there were
[6:22] - Before - There were popes metal popes with signs on them.
[6:26] - Oh and
[6:29] and my my my second question is why they do that design?
[6:33] Because when you put something in the center of the line,
[6:36] they need to put something for careful.
[6:39] They do all all over.
[6:40] And I that why the reason I was to the engineer explain
[6:46] why they do that design.
[6:48] If they already know all the cast jump on that
[6:54] A good, I don't know, maybe it's a good question.
[6:56] Bring the engineer and explain us
[6:58] because they bring them very soon the
[7:00] accident something wrong.
[7:02] I don't know this my Alright,
[7:05] - Thank you.
[7:06] Thank you. I mean we as a county road, our
[7:11] public works people do meet with the county once in a while
[7:15] you could ask, but
[7:17] - If you go just past there you'll see skid marks going
[7:20] towards the wood fence and hitting that telephone box.
[7:25] - Right. I have a feeling somebody was going Yeah. Fast.
[7:30] But anyway. Alright, well anyone else in the room wish
[7:34] to address the council during this time of public comment?
[7:40] Alright, close public comment
[7:42] and move on to the consent agenda. Do
[7:45] - You wanna read this now?
[7:48] - Quite yet, but Oh, oh, I'm sorry. That's right.
[7:50] That is, we have a written public comment. Forgive me.
[7:55] Thank you Jeffrey Ge councilor one has agreed to read
[8:01] Frank Stevens comments.
[8:03] It's, it's more public comment so please go ahead. Okay.
[8:09] - Public comment from Frank Stevens of Dale Oregon
[8:13] or urgent request for assessment
[8:14] and action To safeguard community trail pop chalk trail,
[8:18] consider updating local standards slash ordinances,
[8:20] future enforcement and oversight options
[8:23] and engineering of shared path areas
[8:25] to include surrounding green space locations
[8:28] for increased public safety in the city of Troutdale
[8:30] to the esteemed members of the city council
[8:32] and city staff, I'm writing as a concerned resident
[8:35] as a member of a frequent group of trail users.
[8:37] Friends of the choc chalk trail to formally notify the city
[8:40] of a pressing safety
[8:42] and public welfare issue, a structure resembling a cabin
[8:45] and currently occupied as well
[8:48] as other adjoining campsites in the immediate area have
[8:51] appeared in the past year with within our communities green
[8:54] space adjoining the popular trail
[8:56] frequented by family and children.
[8:58] A particular concern is a credible
[9:01] evidence suggesting the presence, the presence
[9:03] of weapons within or around this cabin.
[9:06] This development has elicited considerable concern
[9:08] among trail users, many of whom depend on the trail
[9:11] for recreation, exercise and safe passage.
[9:14] The existent the existence of weapons in proximity
[9:17] to a public space intended for communal enjoyment,
[9:20] especially by minors, raises significant safety concerns
[9:23] that demand immediate
[9:24] and careful attention considering the standards
[9:27] and response timelines currently employed by both the Port
[9:30] of Portland and Multnomah County Sheriff's Office is
[9:32] important to recognize a potential shortcoming in the
[9:35] prevailing approach to homeless
[9:37] homelessness encampments in our green space.
[9:41] Frequently these agencies use utilize an out of sight out
[9:44] of mind methodology, which tends to prioritize removal
[9:47] or relocation with without fully addressing
[9:49] deeper safety issues.
[9:51] This practice may unintentionally neglect crucial concerns
[9:55] related to public safety
[9:56] and the welfare of both the unhoused populations residing in
[9:59] these areas and the broader community
[10:01] that utilizes the chocho trail.
[10:04] Such oversight can lead to unresolved risks,
[10:06] particularly when encampments appear near family friendly
[10:10] spaces and there are no credible reports of weapons present
[10:15] And there are incredible reports of weapons present.
[10:18] Thank you. By highlighting this, we seek
[10:20] to encourage more comp, comprehensive
[10:22] and proactive interventions
[10:23] that better safeguard all community members
[10:26] and ensure the green space remains welcoming
[10:28] and secure for its intended purpose.
[10:31] While relocation
[10:32] and containment strategies are sometimes used
[10:34] to minimize visibility rather than resolve underlying
[10:38] issues, we urge the city to ensure
[10:40] that any response prioritizes safety,
[10:42] compassionate engagement, and sustainable solutions.
[10:46] The community values this area as an essential resource
[10:49] for healthy living, social connection
[10:51] and the enjoyment of nature.
[10:53] Accordingly, I respect respectfully request
[10:56] that the CH dale conduct a prompt
[10:59] and thorough investigation into this matter.
[11:01] We urge all that urge
[11:03] that all appropriate measures be taken, removal
[11:06] of structures, housing slash services
[11:09] provided for individuals in accordance with best practices
[11:12] and local public safety standards
[11:15] to ensure the ongoing safety of residents
[11:17] and to preserve the welcoming, peaceful nature
[11:19] of the green space and trail.
[11:21] We appreciate your timely attention to this matter
[11:23] and look forward to your response regarding the steps
[11:25] that will be taken to address these concerns.
[11:27] Respectfully, Frank Stevens,
[11:31] - Thank you, I appreciate that and thank you Frank.
[11:38] Is there anyone else who wi wishes to address this
[11:40] during public comment?
[11:43] If not, we'll move on to the consent agenda.
[11:47] Councilor Allen. Okay,
[11:49] - I knew that the consent agenda 3.1 minutes.
[11:53] - February 24th, 2026.
[11:56] City Council Wer meeting in March 10th, 2026.
[12:00] City Council regular meeting. Second.
[12:04] - Alright Sarah, would you call a role?
[12:07] - Yes. Councilor Allen? Yes. Councilor? Yes.
[12:12] Yes. Councilor White? Yes sir. Councillor Davidson? Yes.
[12:16] Councilor Lemi? Yes. Councilor Andrews? Yes.
[12:23] - Alright, thank you.
[12:25] We'll move on to agenda item number four, proclamations.
[12:29] I'm pleased and proud to make two proclamations beginning
[12:34] with 4.1, which is the Arbor Day
[12:40] proclamation, Whereas
[12:45] in 1872 J Sterling Morton proposed
[12:49] to the Nebraska Board of Agriculture that a special day
[12:53] be set aside for the planting of trees.
[12:56] And whereas this holiday called Arbor Day was first observed
[13:01] with the planting of more than a million trees in Nebraska.
[13:06] And whereas Arbor Day is now observed throughout the
[13:10] nation and the world.
[13:12] And whereas trees can reduce the erosion
[13:16] of our precious topsoil by wind and water cut heating
[13:20] and cooling costs moderate the temperature, clean the air,
[13:24] produce life, giving oxygen,
[13:26] and provide habitat for wildlife.
[13:29] And whereas trees are a renewable resource giving us paper
[13:34] wood for our homes, fuel for our fires,
[13:37] and countless other wood products.
[13:40] And whereas trees in our city, increased property values
[13:45] enhance the economic viability of business areas, vitality
[13:49] of business areas, and beautify our community.
[13:54] And whereas trees, wherever they are planted are a source
[13:57] of joy and spiritual renewal.
[14:01] Now therefore, I David Riman, mayor of the city
[14:04] of Troutdale, who hereby proclaim
[14:07] April 24th, 2026
[14:10] as Arbor Day in the city of Troutdale.
[14:13] And I urge all citizens to celebrate Arbor Day
[14:17] and to support efforts to protect our trees and woodlands.
[14:22] And further, I urge all citizens to plant trees
[14:26] to gladen the heart and promote the wellbeing of this
[14:29] and future generations dated this 14th day
[14:33] of April, 2026.
[14:36] Alright, Next I have a proclamation
[14:41] of Vietnamese American Remembrance day.
[14:47] Whereas Vietnamese refugees have proudly resided in the
[14:52] state of Oregon since the conclusion
[14:54] of the Vietnam War on April 30th, 1975.
[14:59] And whereas Vietnamese Americans have put forth their full
[15:03] toiling energy building the state of Oregon in a multitude
[15:08] of prominent areas, including industry, economy, culture,
[15:12] education, and military service.
[15:16] And whereas the Vietnamese Americans have counted on the
[15:21] state of Oregon as being their second heart, mind
[15:24] and family homeland.
[15:27] And whereas every year Vietnamese Americans celebrate
[15:32] remembrance day on April 30th to solemnly honor
[15:37] the 58,000 American servicemen
[15:40] and service women in
[15:42] that 810 soldiers from the state of Oregon
[15:47] and more than 250,000 South Vietnamese soldiers
[15:51] who sacrificed their lives in the line of duty for freedom
[15:56] and democracy in South Vietnam from November, 1955
[16:01] to April, 1975.
[16:04] Now therefore, I, David Rimma, mayor of the city
[16:08] of Troutdale, hereby proclaim April 30th to be Vietnamese
[16:13] American Remembrance Day in Troutdale
[16:16] and encourage all Trout Damians to join in this observance
[16:21] dated this 14th day of April, 2026.
[16:33] Alright, we'll move on then to
[16:37] agenda item number five, the second reading of
[16:44] what's it called, the fog orates.
[16:47] So
[16:56] - Good - Evening mayor and city council members.
[16:59] My name is Ryan ura, environmental specialist here
[17:02] with the city of Dale.
[17:04] I'll you a chance to
[17:07] - Get - The slides up and running.
[17:26] I also take this moment to announce that
[17:29] colleague Erica Armstrong is also online.
[17:32] She's the chief operator at the wastewater treatment plant
[17:35] and I have Travis Holton, the public works director here
[17:38] as well in case there are questions for either one of them.
[17:44] Yes, this is an ordinance revising the chapter 12.07
[17:47] of the Troutdale municipal code.
[17:49] It's the second reading tonight. Alright Sarah, I'm ready.
[17:54] Thank you. So again, we'll kind
[17:56] of quickly go over why the need for the code update.
[17:59] What is the goal, what are some updates
[18:02] from the last meeting we've had?
[18:03] And any questions? Alright Sarah, thank you.
[18:06] So why the update again?
[18:08] Well for the public owned treatment works,
[18:11] which is encompasses the collection system,
[18:14] the treatment plant and all that, there's odor issues
[18:18] that have been experienced at the TRA treatment plant.
[18:20] There's been overflows
[18:22] of the basin wall at the treatment plant reduce, reduce
[18:26] reductions in sludge settling, especially
[18:29] during warmer months.
[18:30] Sanitary sewer O overflows related to fog,
[18:33] increased maintenance costs
[18:35] and we got some estimates of about 200 to $325 per hour
[18:40] and that includes staff and the VAC labor costs
[18:44] and we have to be called out to go clean pipes and whatnot.
[18:49] You know, for the fog buildup in our collection system,
[18:53] there's a risk of NPDS permit discharge violations
[18:57] and there's risk of POTW interference
[18:59] and pass through, which is a pretreatment violations
[19:03] for food service establishments.
[19:05] This would require documentation of pump outs
[19:08] and provide clear standards for the businesses.
[19:13] This was an example I I showed earlier from earlier this
[19:16] year at the treatment plant, an aeration basin
[19:19] of the nocardia fog, no cardio bacteria
[19:24] creating a lot of this blanket
[19:28] of fog slide please.
[19:32] Yep. And here's some fog buildup in the collection system
[19:35] along, as you can see the yellow grease buildup on the sides
[19:40] that we have to go in and clean out periodically.
[19:43] And then what is the goal? So eliminate the fog related
[19:46] issues we're experiencing in the
[19:48] collection and treatment systems.
[19:50] Provide clear direction to food service establishments
[19:52] to achieve compliance,
[19:53] but also really to validate
[19:55] what they're likely already doing with their, you know,
[20:00] grease removal devices at their restaurants.
[20:05] So a few updates that we've had since our first reading.
[20:08] We did send out letters
[20:09] to all the food service establishments.
[20:12] We've removed some
[20:13] of the food grinder prohibition language from the code.
[20:16] We changed minimum service frequency
[20:19] to extend it a little bit from 30 to 45 days
[20:22] for smaller units and 90 to 120 days for the interceptors.
[20:27] We changed some variance language
[20:29] so there's no longer a professional study needed to be paid
[20:32] for by any restaurants.
[20:33] They would just rely strictly on the pump out manifests,
[20:36] which they're already probably receiving from their pumper
[20:40] when they come out and service these grease traps.
[20:43] And then there's an educational component as well
[20:45] that's built in partly into our software that we're using.
[20:48] But we may also have a component that we would do on site
[20:51] with the restaurants and their staff.
[20:53] So, okay. Sarah, next slide.
[20:56] So that, that, that was my updates for you
[20:59] and I if you had any questions.
[21:03] - Alright, thank you. Questions from the council?
[21:10] I, yes, Glen Sure. Yeah. Thanks Ryan.
[21:13] Yeah, I appreciate you contacting the restaurants.
[21:16] I think it's only fair to do that. Sure.
[21:20] I missed the part on the, in the new report on the,
[21:23] you talking about food garbage disposals,
[21:26] they're allowed, what's going on with that? Yeah,
[21:28] - So we, I removed that language
[21:29] because looking at the Fog Oregon, the fog,
[21:32] the Oregon Plumbing standard, they, they did have language
[21:35] that, you know, allowed food grinders or food disposals and
[21:39] and restaurants and I didn't know if that was gonna really
[21:43] solve the problem to require restaurants
[21:45] that had already installed it, you know, the cost
[21:47] of removing them and,
[21:49] and maybe even making any other changes
[21:51] that they needed to do.
[21:53] I just felt like maybe that was an undue burden,
[21:55] cost burden for them.
[21:56] And I'd rather see that money put towards pump outs clearly
[22:00] than in that removal of an existing device.
[22:05] - So there, if you have one you can keep it,
[22:07] but if your a new establishment you can't put one in.
[22:11] - I I didn't, I didn't require that either. Yep.
[22:14] Since the Oregon plumbing code already allows it
[22:16] and it has it in there, I didn't want kind
[22:20] of make a conflict of the two codes
[22:22] and I just figured we'll just leave, leave it be
[22:25] as is with the plumbing code.
[22:28] - And then how often does the c is the city required
[22:33] to jet blast those lines like in the main sewer?
[22:37] - You know, that that, that's one I'm gonna have
[22:39] to ask Erica if she can weigh in on,
[22:41] because I can't remember how often that is.
[22:43] Honestly,
[22:45] - It's not a requirement.
[22:46] It's more a maintenance that we just do
[22:52] to make sure that our pipes are running smoothly
[22:55] every year we clean a couple basins of our sewer,
[22:59] of our sewer system
[23:01] and we usually hit those greasy spots
[23:05] at least twice, sometimes up
[23:08] to four times a year depending on how bad those lines are.
[23:13] It's not required though.
[23:14] We just do it to help maintain flow.
[23:23] - I have one - Other one.
[23:26] - Oh yeah, I had asked the question of,
[23:30] with the random inspection program, how,
[23:32] how many violations did you see?
[23:34] Did you ever figure that out?
[23:35] - No, I did not. And I did not. I did not. No I did not.
[23:41] Sorry, sorry. Councilor White,
[23:46] - Let someone else go.
[23:47] Anyone else with questions?
[23:56] Well, did you think of anything else?
[23:57] I do have one concern that, you know,
[24:01] by having the company that's doing the work,
[24:04] pumping up the grease traps being the one,
[24:09] they're basically the ones that can help with the variance.
[24:12] It seems like kind of a conflict of interest for them to
[24:16] say, oh yeah, this customer only needs it once a year
[24:18] instead of three times a year.
[24:20] I just had a little concern about that. Well
[24:24] - Really it would be required still every 40 day,
[24:28] 45 day days if you have a hydro mechanical grease
[24:32] interceptor or a trap grease trap
[24:34] and 120 days for the interceptor.
[24:37] So we, we put some firm standards in there that,
[24:40] that would be the minimum frequency of pump outs.
[24:43] And then there's in the variance, let's say a manufacturer,
[24:46] as I've been told, they may have a very high efficiency
[24:49] grease interceptor that says okay
[24:52] and 25% is also the standard, I'm sorry,
[24:54] that we have established as, you know, the pump out rule.
[24:59] And so let's say if, if a variance says,
[25:02] well if this grease trap that was installed,
[25:05] that's a very high efficiency grease trap,
[25:07] says 75% is the rule, not necessarily 25%.
[25:11] Well then we would ask that the,
[25:12] the restaurant would provide us that documentation and
[25:15] and say well this is what's been installed instead.
[25:18] So it's not really the pumper
[25:20] that's gonna be telling the restaurants, oh you don't have
[25:22] to pump it out quite as much anymore or, or how
[25:26] however often they think it is,
[25:28] it's gonna be based on our own standards.
[25:31] - Okay. That's great.
[25:32] And then I guess my final question, is it, I read that
[25:37] restaurants can't skim grease off off the surface,
[25:41] but are they still allowed
[25:43] to clean their own grease trap without calling somebody in?
[25:46] - If, if they're able to,
[25:48] to fully evacuate the whole interceptor and,
[25:50] and take all that gr grease and and liquids and all that
[25:53] and dispose of it properly as somewhere else where,
[25:56] you know, they accept that material, that's fine.
[25:59] It's, it's not probably gonna be easy to do
[26:01] that if it's especially a large, you know,
[26:03] a thousand gallon interceptor.
[26:05] But that we we're not saying you can't Yeah. In the code.
[26:10] - So if there, if there are a thousand gallons,
[26:13] they're only allowed to be 25% full.
[26:17] - 'cause that's typically the performance standard
[26:18] for interceptors for them. The best
[26:21] - Septic tanks aren't that way.
[26:23] Yeah. Do you see this going anywhere for, I know you,
[26:27] you can only target commercial operations.
[26:32] Do you, do you see this being a new building requirement
[26:35] or anything down the road for new construction for homes?
[26:39] - Yeah, I would not be the one to be in installing
[26:41] or re requiring any of that.
[26:43] That would be far outside of my jurisdictional purview
[26:47] of the pretreatment program.
[26:49] Yeah. So thanks Brian.
[26:51] - You welcome. Good effort.
[26:54] Alright, if there's no other questions from the council,
[26:57] we did have, this is an ordinance
[27:01] and we are going to be considering adoption tonight,
[27:05] but I would open it
[27:08] to public comment if any before we act.
[27:12] So let's start with people participating on Zoom.
[27:16] Anyone wish to address the council on this matter?
[27:22] Seeing none. How about anyone in the room wish
[27:27] to address the council, Saul?
[27:30] Yes, you are welcome to
[27:36] - Now we Vietnamese community of Oregon.
[27:40] We have the certificate of appreciation to you
[27:45] and the, the thing with counselors.
[27:48] Yeah. First of all, my name is Tu.
[27:51] I am the president of the Vietnamese community
[27:53] of Oregon on behalf of my board.
[27:55] Thank you so much for the programation in
[28:00] recognizing the Vietnamese American day.
[28:04] Your ation reach beyond the story.
[28:08] The document is honor our people who
[28:13] carry abundant of
[28:18] being freedom in another country
[28:21] and they move across the ocean and resettle in the US
[28:25] and also especially honor the US
[28:29] and South Vietnamese soldiers who risk their life for
[28:34] freedom and democracy in South Vietnam from 1955
[28:38] to 1975 from the bottom of our heart.
[28:43] One more time. Thank you so much for the problem, Mason.
[28:46] And this is the thank you senator.
[28:50] - Well thank you so much. Thank you. And
[28:52] - Counselors list.
[28:54] - Thank you. Did you want me to stand up
[28:57] and take a picture or something?
[28:58] Yeah, please. Everyone on the council knows this isn't
[29:01] exactly the right order, but let's just do it.
[29:07] So I'll I'll come around Sarah if you want to take it or,
[29:14] and we, you come up and you can hand it to me
[29:19] or something and we will have somebody who take a picture.
[29:23] Yeah, you can hand it to me.
[29:26] Oh, this is, oh this is the proclamation. Very good.
[29:29] - Yeah. So - We can swap. Yes. Alright, excellent.
[29:34] Here we go. Thank you so much. Well thank you.
[29:36] Thank you very much.
[29:39] And we are, we are pleased and honored to have you here.
[29:43] Yeah. And you are all welcome here in Oregon.
[29:47] We revere the Vietnamese Americans. Thank you.
[29:50] - Thank you very much.
[30:08] - Is there anyone from the Nebraska Board of Agriculture?
[30:12] Well, they're here. That was their chance.
[30:14] They their chance. Yeah. They, they lost that. Okay. Anyway.
[30:19] Thank you. Delighted.
[30:23] All right, moving right along.
[30:24] We're we're, I'm inviting public comment.
[30:29] Saul, perhaps you want to come up,
[30:35] but thank you again for coming so much.
[30:43] - Hello, my name is Al Pompeo
[30:45] and I have couple questions for the program.
[30:49] One of the questions I don't very clear if we can clean,
[30:54] I start clean my grease out myself.
[30:58] - Yep. We, we did not remove any or,
[31:00] or imp impart any requirement
[31:03] that says you could not claim it yourself.
[31:06] We just ask that you're gonna be submitting a manifest
[31:08] online report to the city so
[31:10] that we can verify it's been cleaned.
[31:12] - That means I can have access to that system to put my
[31:17] - Yep, yep.
[31:18] And it's free to use it's no cost to the restaurants to use
[31:21] that online reporting system. That will, we
[31:23] - Now have, in my case, we need to clean very often.
[31:25] You know, I do, I need not, I need
[31:28] to clean my grease strap every month.
[31:32] Pay 500 bucks for each time is,
[31:35] and we can do in 20 minute very small.
[31:39] And they only have two buckets of really easy.
[31:43] We do, I we do every three weeks really don't stink my,
[31:46] our tractors easy.
[31:48] Okay, thank you. And another question I have is,
[31:52] can we have access to you, to your sketch,
[31:57] to cleaning the, the pipe?
[32:00] Because if we are responsibility for hundred percent,
[32:03] if something happen, I want to make sure we do maintenance
[32:07] where you guys have maintenance to,
[32:09] can we have access to the sketch?
[32:11] How often do you clean the pipes,
[32:14] - Erica?
[32:15] Is that something that we can offer the schedule
[32:20] - There?
[32:21] It isn't really, there isn't like a specific
[32:23] month that we do it.
[32:25] You know, we try and fit it in, in between
[32:29] other cyclical parts of us running the whole sewer system.
[32:34] So there isn't like a hard and fast schedule.
[32:37] But I'm sure
[32:40] if we knew it was happening in later in the month,
[32:43] maybe we could put something up.
[32:46] - Let me chime in on that.
[32:47] The, there isn't like a calendar that is laid out
[32:50] that says this is where we're gonna clean this pipe
[32:52] or that pipe looking forward.
[32:54] As, as Eric talked about, they work it in
[32:58] with their work plans week to week as to
[33:00] how much they can fit in and do
[33:01] and work their way through the system.
[33:03] So while I don't think we could tell, we could offer
[33:05] to provide a forward looking schedule
[33:07] of when a particular pipe is going to be cleaned,
[33:09] certainly our maintenance records are,
[33:12] are available if someone, you know,
[33:14] for instance if someone were to be charged
[33:18] for causing a suit to receive overflow
[33:21] and they felt that they shouldn't be,
[33:24] they could certainly request
[33:25] to see any maintenance records we had
[33:27] and make was available.
[33:29] - And then we can request the maintenance request of
[33:32] - Course the public information.
[33:33] - Okay. Thank you. That is the question. Thank you.
[33:36] That's it. Thank you. Very thank you.
[33:39] Anyone else wish to address this on the
[33:46] deliberations about this ordinance?
[33:49] Alright, all the matters before us.
[33:56] - I did. I thought of one kind of quick
[33:58] - Question. Yes. Oh,
[33:59] - On the first read I was a little confused when I asked the
[34:03] question of if when you guys jet spray the, the sewer
[34:07] to get the grease off, if
[34:10] that ends up at the sewer treatment plant.
[34:12] And I got, I kind
[34:15] of got a a mixed answer there.
[34:18] So, so is there any clarification on that
[34:21] if Travis was shaking his head?
[34:23] No, it doesn't go down there but Erica
[34:25] and you said it would, so maybe I misread it
[34:30] - About Erica.
[34:31] I could that if you want Yeah, go ahead Erica.
[34:33] So in those super greasy pipes
[34:35] that we know have grease buildup on a regular basis,
[34:39] that we go out and clean the,
[34:40] we call them our troubled areas.
[34:42] We know these pipes usually have
[34:44] some sort of buildup on them.
[34:45] We have a basket that we throw in at the downstream end.
[34:50] So as we're pulling the grease back towards the truck,
[34:53] pulling it down the pipe, we have a basket
[34:55] that intercepts most of those big chunks of grease.
[34:58] You know, obviously we won't be able
[35:00] to catch every single piece of it but you know,
[35:03] 'cause some of these manholes are like 10, 15 feet deep, we,
[35:07] we catch what we can and intercept it.
[35:09] But most of the time when we are cleaning,
[35:12] yes we're just trying to get it off the walls.
[35:15] But in those big heavy grease pipes,
[35:17] like you saw the pictures of those, we try
[35:19] and capture those chunks of when we can.
[35:25] - Thank you. - Of course. Anyone else?
[35:30] Final questions? Alright,
[35:35] well the matter is before us, it's in ordinance.
[35:38] We're revising chapter 12.07
[35:40] of the Troutdale municipal code pertaining
[35:43] to the sanitary sewer pre-treatment program.
[35:46] I would entertain a motion,
[35:49] - I'll make a motion that we adopt an ordinance revising
[35:53] chapter 12.07 of the Tridel municipal code pertaining
[35:57] to the sanitary sewer pre treatment program.
[36:01] - I'll second. - Alright Sarah, please call roll.
[36:06] - Okay. Councilor Allen? Yes. Councillor one? Yes.
[36:10] Mayor rma? Yes. Counselor White? Yes. Councilor Davidson?
[36:15] Yes. Councilor Lemi? Yes. And Councilor Andrews?
[36:19] - Yes. - Alright. Thank back.
[36:23] We'll move on to agenda item number six.
[36:25] Staff communications.
[36:27] - Thank you. Alright, I, I'll try to make it quick.
[36:31] We have April 18th is the bulk waste drop off.
[36:37] It's $25.
[36:39] - Oh that's not true. - Is it not true? Is it?
[36:41] - It depends on the size of your vehicle.
[36:44] - Ah, - I took a picture of it.
[36:48] - Alright. - And I can,
[36:50] - Well there is a fee.
[36:51] It's not, it's not free so it's less, it's a small fee.
[36:56] - Looks like a car.
[36:57] Minivan is $25 a pickup or a box truck is 40 vehicle
[37:01] and a trailer 65 and tires are 10 to $12 each.
[37:06] - Okay, thank you. Or - Is it?
[37:11] - It's at the transfer station here in Troutdale.
[37:14] - Troutdale. What was the date again? Mike?
[37:16] - April 18th. Saturday
[37:19] - This Saturday.
[37:22] And it goes from, sorry I should have gave you this.
[37:25] The hours it
[37:29] - Is - From at eight eight
[37:32] to 12, eight to noon
[37:37] - And bulk means any old - Thing.
[37:39] Accepted items are barbecues, bikes, box springs, carpeting,
[37:42] dressers, ex exercise equipment, furniture, lawnmowers,
[37:45] oil remove mattresses, silverware, sinks, tables, tires,
[37:48] toilets, towels, water heaters, windows not accepted.
[37:51] So these are not animal waste batteries, car engines, CFC,
[37:56] appliances, concrete dirt, sod, stumps, e-waste,
[37:59] fluorescent fixtures, waste household, hazardous materials,
[38:03] liquids, paint, paint, tanks, refrigerators, rocks, rocks,
[38:07] roofing materials and small AC units are not
[38:10] accept those are not accepted.
[38:12] - Okay. So excellent.
[38:15] - Other things that I have coming out,
[38:16] just giving you a heads up, we had some initial bids for
[38:21] the Buxton property up on the hill that came in.
[38:25] Basically the hard costs for construction 1.9 million
[38:30] with soft costs upward of six
[38:33] to $800,000 on top of that.
[38:36] So that's something for discussion for another day
[38:39] that we might want to discuss and strategize around.
[38:43] Just kind of giving you those initial
[38:44] numbers for fixes on that.
[38:47] A lot of that is the a DA requirements inside, outside
[38:53] as well as some asbestos mitigation, electrical,
[38:57] plumbing and the like.
[38:59] So not a cheap endeavor
[39:02] but something that we should probably discuss if
[39:04] we want to do that or not.
[39:07] - Well and I assume we need to discuss it fairly soon. Yes.
[39:12] This is the property we bought to be the new city hall.
[39:16] So we probably, I realize we've got a kind of a busy agenda
[39:21] for the next month or so,
[39:22] but we, we need to know what we're gonna do,
[39:27] what we're gonna move forward with that.
[39:30] That's staggering.
[39:32] Staggeringly more than sounded like before.
[39:36] Yes, go ahead Jesse. No I didn't have a comment.
[39:38] I was just, anyway, it's staggering.
[39:41] It's so staggering that we might need
[39:43] to reconsider what we were thinking.
[39:47] So, and I don't know if we, ed, this might be
[39:52] for you if we were to reconsider not keeping
[39:56] that property, trying to acquire another one
[39:59] or make use of another one, is that a subject that would
[40:03] be eligible for an executive
[40:05] session anyway?
[40:08] Something to think about, something to look into.
[40:10] Some parts would and some parts
[40:12] wouldn't probably not talk more later.
[40:14] Afraid of. Yeah. Okay.
[40:17] - Anyway, just kind of going through my checklist right now.
[40:20] Hood Cable Regulatory Committee,
[40:23] a commission is being dissolved.
[40:26] So we're working out in IGA right now between ourselves,
[40:31] Pono County Wood Village,
[40:34] and Fairview on how to process
[40:38] and distribute the remaining franchise fees for that.
[40:43] - We'll get some money. - It's a little bit of money.
[40:45] It's not much.
[40:49] 20,000, 20,000.
[40:53] It's, it's a good chunk of change.
[40:55] We can do some good stuff with it.
[40:56] Well we'll see if we can't bring it home.
[40:59] On top of that is working out the Community Enhancement
[41:03] grant program and bringing that back to Troutdale as well.
[41:08] So I'm working out an IGA right now with Metro
[41:10] and that I anticipate we'll be seeing those two IGAs coming
[41:14] before this council in May and June.
[41:18] And then of course the question earlier today was how's the
[41:22] fee schedule progressing?
[41:24] And so with the fee schedule we have
[41:27] to notify the Department of Building Codes
[41:28] and Management Division.
[41:31] I forget what their exact initials are,
[41:33] but you should be seeing that coming forward
[41:36] to you in May as well.
[41:37] May and June. So hopefully that will be adopted
[41:41] and in place for July one.
[41:44] Those are my big updates coming up.
[41:46] We also have Public Works week in May.
[41:49] Is it the week of the 17th or the 14th?
[41:54] I'd have to look at my calendar to be honest.
[41:56] It's in mid-May. Yeah, mid-May.
[41:58] Public works week coming down
[42:02] and then all next week we have budget stuff
[42:05] so, so I'm in, yeah,
[42:10] - Move on to council communications. Carol,
[42:14] - I have none.
[42:17] - Zach? - No, Carol's first. We're going around.
[42:22] Zach we'll get to you. You, you get to,
[42:26] you can move to adjourn.
[42:27] You clean up?
[42:29] - I'm good thank you. - I just had a couple
[42:34] things and I just want to address this.
[42:38] I just wanted to like put it out there about my,
[42:43] I don't really know what to do about it, but my concern,
[42:45] and this is not just about the city of Troutdale
[42:49] and I'm sure it's at, it's gonna be at the front
[42:50] of our minds this next week concerning our budget.
[42:53] But I'm just like concerned about the state of
[42:59] how this, maybe this state of Oregon is taxed
[43:04] and where tax money goes
[43:06] and I'm not really sure that there's anything
[43:08] that we can specifically do about that.
[43:10] It's probably more at higher levels than us,
[43:13] but I think we're gonna find out this next week
[43:18] that I know we're not the only city that is in this position
[43:22] where we're having to pinch pennies and remove things
[43:25] and take things away from the people who live here.
[43:28] So I'm just stating it like as a fact that it's
[43:33] concerning to me of being involved in doing this.
[43:37] I think that there needs to be some sort of reform somewhere
[43:40] to help cities Function at a higher
[43:44] level for the people that live there.
[43:46] So, and that's probably again above my pay grade.
[43:51] But I just wanted to respond to this comment from Frank
[43:56] this and I know I have get communicated a lot
[43:59] with Frank over the last couple years
[44:02] and he's very involved in these kind of things
[44:05] and really cares about these spaces as do I
[44:10] park next to my house is really kind of out
[44:12] of the way mostly and people walk their dogs
[44:14] and there's not really any
[44:18] living activity happening at the park.
[44:20] It's great. But spaces like this, I'm pretty sure
[44:22] that people moved over from a thousand acres
[44:25] and the, you know, the Department
[44:26] of State lands land over onto this side
[44:29] where they're now not being monitored.
[44:30] And I find that to be very concerning and I,
[44:33] and I find it concerning that nothing is being done.
[44:36] And I find it kind of ridiculous that
[44:42] the people who live here and are paying taxes
[44:44] and want to use the spaces that their taxes pay
[44:46] for aren't able to safely use those spaces.
[44:50] And I think that something needs to be done immediately.
[44:54] And I realize that's probably a super tall task.
[44:57] But I think that this is something that warrants that.
[45:01] And whether it's the, whoever's land,
[45:04] it ne if it's the port's land
[45:06] or if the sheriff needs to get involved, they need
[45:09] to do something like the, they can't dilly dally around
[45:11] with this, especially if there are dangerous weapons around.
[45:14] Whether they work or not is ir is,
[45:18] shouldn't matter whatsoever.
[45:19] It doesn't really matter.
[45:21] It's not a place for people to live.
[45:22] It's a place for people to use and hopefully use safely.
[45:26] And so I am going to mimic
[45:32] Frank's statement that hopefully
[45:36] steps will be taken and they'll be taken immediately to do
[45:40] with this problem and mitigate it for the future.
[45:45] So yeah, that's it.
[45:48] - Alright, well thanks.
[45:50] I, First of all,
[45:56] tomorrow is the deadline for filing the statement
[45:59] of economic interest.
[46:00] If any of you have failed to do that, don't forget,
[46:06] it's easy to forget.
[46:07] I do think we got reminders from Sarah,
[46:10] but it's been a while
[46:12] and so I just mentioned it, if you don't know
[46:17] what I'm talking about, see me afterwards.
[46:21] The last Monday there
[46:26] was a, the, there was a filming
[46:31] by an outfit that was hired by the Oregon Lottery
[46:36] who helped fund the Sharon Nesbitt Heritage Trail.
[46:40] And Sharon was here and I, Sharon
[46:43] and I went out on the trail and they did some filming
[46:46] and it's supposed to be on the Lottery's YouTube channel
[46:50] and some other social media.
[46:54] Haven't seen it yet, but I just mentioned it
[46:58] 'cause it was, it was a lot of fun.
[47:00] It was just a gorgeous day.
[47:02] And Sharon was just a GOG about how beautiful the
[47:06] Sharon Nesbitt Heritage Trail is.
[47:09] The new cage that you walk through is just perfect,
[47:13] not obtrusive, just right that you walk onto the tracks.
[47:19] Anyway, I mentioned that.
[47:21] And finally the Toronto Historical Society is hosting
[47:25] Kerry Tim Chuck, who's the president
[47:29] of the Oregon Historical Society.
[47:31] He's speaking at the Sam Cox building
[47:34] here in Troutdale at Glen Otto Park
[47:37] at two o'clock on Sunday the 19th.
[47:41] It's a program about preserving Oregon history.
[47:44] He's really entertaining and a very good speaker.
[47:48] And it kind of has to do with Oregon's 200,
[47:52] the 250th anniversary of the, of the Declaration
[47:56] of Independence and,
[47:57] and how Oregon is, is
[48:01] teaching its history as part of that.
[48:03] So with that, I'm done. One.
[48:09] - Yeah, no, I, I agree with Frank.
[48:11] That's the second time he's written the council.
[48:14] And to staff's credit it, it's not in Troutdale
[48:18] so it's difficult for us to really do a lot.
[48:22] But if we, if there's anything you can think of,
[48:25] I'll be glad to help out.
[48:26] I've been complaining about that forever.
[48:29] It's like I can't imagine seeing homeless camps at the Grand
[48:32] Canyon or other national parks.
[48:35] And this is the national and it, it's been going on for,
[48:39] for far too long and it, it's an asset to our community.
[48:43] It'll also help us get a development down at our URA
[48:48] if that can be cleaned up somehow.
[48:52] And then I also, this time of year I do kind of an annual
[48:56] safety message to the public about swimming
[48:59] in the Sandy River.
[49:00] We get a few warm days,
[49:02] but it takes a while for that river to warm up.
[49:04] And I've actually seen people swimming out there
[49:08] and it really frightens me to see 'em.
[49:10] But I always say wait till lifeguards start on Memorial Day.
[49:15] A MR has lifeguards at Glen Park from
[49:18] Memorial Day to Labor Day.
[49:19] That's all
[49:22] - I think I'd just like to piggyback on
[49:24] what Jeffrey said about of the budget
[49:27] and the shortfall that I think all of the cities
[49:30] around here are in
[49:33] and you know, we, we had the public safety fee
[49:39] and now we're looking at, well we, that money
[49:42] is already allocated and we're gonna ask potentially
[49:46] the people for more money.
[49:49] And I feel like we,
[49:51] before we do that, we, I would this out to you guys.
[49:57] Maybe we need to do our part, what we can
[50:01] and maybe make a joint statement, get all on board with
[50:06] creating something that maybe describes the situation
[50:10] that our communities in the cities all around us are in to.
[50:15] Hopefully we could all get on board.
[50:18] It wouldn't fall on deaf ears
[50:20] and maybe get something initiated at a higher level
[50:23] because our hands are tied behind our back
[50:25] by the powers that be.
[50:28] And looking at the budget, it's just depressing.
[50:33] So I don't know if anybody would be interested in together
[50:38] to do something like that,
[50:39] but I think it, it would be worth our time.
[50:44] So
[50:45] - Can I just say, I sent out an email this afternoon, it's
[50:50] president of the League of Oregon Cities.
[50:52] He's doing their reception,
[50:55] I think it's in June though, two months away.
[50:58] But I find that that's a good opportunity to talk
[51:03] to them directly 'cause they are usually the lobbying arm
[51:06] of the cities at Salem
[51:09] and so talk to them directly about your ideas and concepts
[51:14] and those sort of events.
[51:16] So if anyone can make that, I think
[51:18] I could probably make it, somebody wants to go with me
[51:21] or maybe a couple want to go with me
[51:23] and we'll go lobby it up and see if we can get something.
[51:29] Somebody ideas out there. Something.
[51:30] - Yeah, that could be good. Ron,
[51:36] - What's going on with the old city hall that, you know, I
[51:39] - Don't know.
[51:40] Am I allowed to say am I, I can only, I can only say rumor
[51:44] and hearsay, but they're moving over there, which is nice.
[51:50] They are working on the back deck
[51:52] and they finished the front pony wall up front on the lower
[51:56] side where the brewery side of the business is.
[52:00] And I don't know if I'm allowed to just say what I've heard,
[52:04] but I've heard I say it right.
[52:07] It's okay. I've heard
[52:09] that it's a mad cow brewery coming in there,
[52:12] so if it's mad Cow Brewery coming in there
[52:14] and they're coming in from, and I heard it from more than
[52:17] one source.
[52:19] So the rumor is is that it's coming from the plaza
[52:24] over there in Gresham. Gresham,
[52:26] - Yeah.
[52:27] - Over to this site.
[52:27] So that is, I heard it not only from one of our counselors,
[52:32] but also at a community event.
[52:36] So my guess is there's some credibility to that,
[52:40] but I have not seen the paperwork
[52:43] nor verified that that's who's coming in.
[52:45] - Yeah. - What I heard at the community event when I talked
[52:50] to them, it was the same one
[52:52] that there's quite a ways difference between what
[52:56] they think the value of that property is
[52:58] and what the owner thinks that there's a fair gap.
[53:03] So it wasn't looking funny how
[53:04] - That worked, - But,
[53:07] and you know, my response was, Hey,
[53:09] they got themselves into this situation.
[53:11] It's, but yeah, somebody, one
[53:14] of the businesses contacted me and wanted to get together
[53:18] and find out what was going on
[53:21] and I said, well, they've been working on it,
[53:23] they were working on it every day last week
[53:24] - Yes.
[53:25] And stuff. But I've seen 'em out there every day
[53:28] for the last couple weeks at least.
[53:30] So they're making good progress.
[53:32] And the real shining light right now is
[53:34] the old taste of village.
[53:36] Oh yeah. They're doing a phenomenal job with that structure,
[53:39] turning it into a hotel bed breakfast.
[53:41] So really excited to see that pop up. Other than that, no.
[53:48] - Okay, Zach, - Hey there. Thank you.
[53:53] Yeah, in light of Arbor Day, I, I guess I wanted
[53:57] to let you guys know, I, I did give open comments
[54:01] to the Bureau of Land Management last month
[54:04] during their comment period.
[54:06] They are currently considering a project
[54:09] that would open up millions of acres
[54:13] to unrestricted logging again across the state.
[54:16] So I think it's important that we really
[54:20] protect our public lands
[54:22] and I just wanted to let you guys know it's
[54:24] stuff like that's going on.
[54:26] I give public comment. I think it's important
[54:29] that we protect our, our state's resources
[54:31] and our outdoor industry
[54:32] and everything else we have going on there.
[54:36] And I heard about, there was unfortunately sound like there
[54:39] was a, a tragic death at the Amazon facility here
[54:42] in Troutdale on Sunday.
[54:43] So just wanted to, you know, say my heart goes out to
[54:46] that family and, you know, I hope for due diligence in
[54:52] investigating the cause and, you know,
[54:53] hopefully prevention in the future if it was related
[54:55] to working conditions.
[54:56] So, but yeah, I, I, that's all I got for today.
[55:01] Thank you guys. Appreciate it.
[55:04] - Move you adjourn Second. All in favor say aye. Aye.
[55:08] - Aye. - Aye.
[55:09] - Adjourned. Well any opposed to that? No, I don't hear it.
[55:14] My name. We are adjourned.
[55:18] - Hopefully we'll be done Monday. Right.
[55:22] Spend an hour ahead in the agenda. If we,
[55:29] we did talk to Maxine Decker
[55:33] and W's office last week.