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Good evening. Welcome to the June 29th,

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2026 Troy City Council meeting. Please

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rise for our invocation if you are able

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and remain standing for our pledge of

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allegiance.

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Father in heaven, we give you thanks for

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this day and thanks for the many

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blessings you've given each and every

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one of us here in the city of Troy. We

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ask that you continue to bless us

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through this beautiful summer evening

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through the halls of this city hall and

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here in our council chamber where we

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work together as a community for the

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good of our city. We ask that you be

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with our first responders, our police,

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our fire, our DPW workers, and all those

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who make this city the amazing city that

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it is. We ask that you be with those who

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are in need and maybe don't have the

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strength to ask on their own. Please

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give an extra special amount of care to

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them. Please be with all in this

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community all throughout this region and

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bless us with your peace. In his name we

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pray. Amen.

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» I aliance to the flag of the United

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States of America and to the republic

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for which it stands. One nation under

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God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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» I'll call the June 29th, 2026 Tri City

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Council meeting to order and ask for the

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roll call for Miss Dixon.

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>> Mayor Baker

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>> here.

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>> Council member Bloom.

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>> Council member Brooks

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>> here. Council member Chamberlain

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>> here.

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>> Mayor Promchandanda.

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>> Council member Gun

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>> here.

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>> Council member Hamilton

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>> here.

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>> We do have a quorum present. I did

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receive advanced notification that mayor

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promchand and council member Bloom would

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be unable to attend this evening city

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council meeting due to being out of the

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county. So I will move resolve that Troy

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City Council hereby excuses the absences

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of Mayor Prom Harach Chanda and council

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member Anaisa Bloom at the regular city

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council meeting of June 29th 2026 due to

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being out of the county. support.

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>> Moved by the chair, supported by council

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member Chamberlain, that we approve and

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excuse the absences of Mayor Promchand

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and Council Member Bloom for the reasons

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stated

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>> a moment ago. Any discussion?

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>> The vote, Miss Dixon.

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>> Mayor Baker,

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>> yes.

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>> Council member Brooks,

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>> yes.

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>> Council member Chamberlain,

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>> yes.

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>> Council member Gun,

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>> yes.

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>> Council member Hamilton,

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>> yes.

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>> Motion carries. Next up are certificates

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of recognition and special

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presentations. We have three this

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evening. C1 is the 2026 MAMC My

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Excellence Award for Public Outreach

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presented to marketing coordinator Kayla

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McKG. And while I come down to the

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podium, I'm going to have City Clerk

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Dixon explain a little bit about that.

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>> Thank you, Mayor. Uh the Michigan

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Association of Municipal Clerks every

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year awards MI Excellence Awards to

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municipalities um who've demonstrated

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excellence in a very variety of

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subjects. The city of Troy this year was

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awarded the MIcconsense Award for public

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outreach for our campaign um advertising

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our new precinct map that we ran all of

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last year and we're going to continue to

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run this year. It's the kind of a play

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on Finding Nemo with an under the sea

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theme and Kayla did all of the graphic

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work and did a website posters um a

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mailer that went out went out to all

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households as well as social media posts

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and it continues on and um we've gotten

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a lot of compliments and praise even

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from other municipalities for it. So,

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great job, Kayla.

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>> That's awesome. So, one of Kayla's

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favorite things to do is public

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speaking.

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>> It's not at all, but she's really good

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at public outreach with graphic work.

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So, I want to on behalf of all of us,

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Kayla, I want to say congratulations.

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This is a really great honor for you and

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for our city as a whole. Do you want to

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just give a a quick little blurb on what

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it's about and what you feel about it?

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>> Yes. Um, I just wanted to say thank you

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to Ailen Dixon for her collaboration in

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the clerk's department for their

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collaboration on the project. And I also

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wanted to thank Courtney Flynn, the

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communications director as well for her

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involvement.

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>> Awesome. See, well, here's the thing.

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So, I have no problem speaking way

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probably too much in front of people. I

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have no issue with that, but my graphic

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design work sucks. So, there's takes

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talents for everybody to get things

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done. I'm gonna I'm gonna take a picture

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with this, but we really are proud of

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you and um I know that everybody

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certainly Courtney and Ailen the people

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you mentioned really are are proud of

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the work that you've done and you're

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helping making our city shine, Kayla.

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So, thank you

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She really does great work and also

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hates speaking in front of public. So

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there you go. It's a great thing.

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[laughter] Um, next up, C2 is a

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proclamation to recognize the city of

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Troy parks and recreation departments

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for positively contributing to the

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health and wellness of the city. Got a

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group coming up. All right.

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Now, I am going to read this

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proclamation into the record.

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There's some good stuff in here. So, as

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I said, this is a proclamation to

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recognize the city of Troy parks and

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recreation departments for positively

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contributing to the health and wellness

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of the city. Whereas, parks and

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recreation are integral to the quality

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of life enjoyed by residents throughout

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the country, including in here in the

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city of Troy. And whereas the city of

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Troy is home to more than 900 acres of

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parkland and that provide year-round

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recreational opportunities for residents

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and visitors of all ages and abilities.

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And whereas the city of Troy parks and

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recreation departments offer extensive

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programming, facilities, events, and

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activities that encourage lifelong

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recreation, wellness, learning, and

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community connections at all level of

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participation. And whereas the city of

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Troy parks and recreation departments

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promote health and wellness by improving

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the physical and mental health of

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individuals and families and providing

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opportunities for active and healthy

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lifestyles. And whereas the city of Troy

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parks and recreation departments

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encourage physical activity through

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access to trails, sports fields,

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playgrounds, aquatic facilities, open

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spaces, and numerous other amenities

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designed to support healthy living. And

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whereas parks and recreation programming

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and educational opportunities offered

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through the city of Troy, including

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youth sports, camps, enrichment

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programs, and environmental education,

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play a critical role in childhood

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development and lifelong learning.

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And whereas parks and recreation

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opportunities contribute to the economic

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vitality of the city of Troy by

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enhancing property values, supporting

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tourism, attracting and retaining

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businesses, and improving overall

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community desiraability. And whereas the

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city of Troy parks and recreation

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departments have earned statewide

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recognition through multiple Michigan

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Recreation and Park Association or M

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Parks awards, including the 2025 park

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design award for the GM Stein Community

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Park and the seasonal brochure activity

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guide award for the winter 2526

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recreation guide reflecting the city's

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commitment to excellence in park

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development, recreation programming, and

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community engagement. And whereas the US

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House of Representatives has designated

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July as Parks and Recreation Month. And

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whereas the city of Troy recognizes and

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celebrates the many benefits derived

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from its parks, recreation facilities,

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programs, and dedicated staff who enrich

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the lives of residents every day. Now,

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therefore, be it resolved that the mayor

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and city council recognize July as Parks

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and Recreation Month to further

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highlight the importance of the city of

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Troy parks and recreation departments to

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the local community. And of course, we

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commend and thank our parks and

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recreations department for all the

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amazing work they do for our community.

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All of you sitting here tonight and all

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of you who are probably there's a lot

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more of you out in our parks right now

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enjoying the the beautiful weather. So,

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this proclamation is presented this 29th

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day of June, 2026. Signed by myself as

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the mayor. All member of our city

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members of our city council have signed

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it. Allison, you're next to me, but I

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don't know if I'm support Who am I who

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am I really giving it to?

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>> All right. I'll go to Alison. Thank you,

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Alison. All of our

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>> Allison and I have been we've been we

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have our concert series on Wednesdays

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and we seem to have not the best weather

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for concerts but she's making it work.

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So, you know, let's get over a little

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bit. Yeah, let's do a photo. Actually,

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why don't you

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bring out

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That was a long one, but basically we're

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very excited that July is officially

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recognized as Parks and Recreation Month

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here in Troy. Um, we're excited to

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celebrate all uh month long, but we

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especially invite you to our third

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annual Midsummer Bash to celebrate,

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which is on Saturday, July 11th at Gene

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Mstein Community Park, which we won our

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park design award for. Um, and it's free

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for all ages from 11:00 a.m. to 3:00

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p.m. We'll have an awesome touch a truck

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thanks to our fire department, some

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tractor rides thanks to our parks

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department, um, face painting, balloon

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twisting, bounce houses, climbing tower.

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So, um, we invite you to celebrate with

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us and thanks so much.

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>> What about this Wednesday? What's

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happening this Wednesday with some big

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>> This Wednesday we have our America 250

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event which is moved inside um to the

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Troy Senior Center within the community

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center due to the heat advisory. And

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then we also have our Captain Fantastic

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Elton John tribute concert which is also

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inside at the Troy Community Center. And

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then the farmers market which is every

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Wednesday from 3:00 to 7:00 pm at Stein

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» All right. C3 is a proclamation to

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recognize Detroit Cowboys for 70 years

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of service in local youth sports. So

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you're all let's come on up.

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should have worn a green tie.

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» All right. So, this is a proclamation to

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recognize the Troy Cowboys for 70 years

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of service in local youth sports.

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Whereas the Troy Youth Football

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Association, commonly known as the Troy

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Cowboys, is an all volunteer

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organization dedicated to providing

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young athletes with opportunities to

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develop football and cheerleading skills

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in a positive, safe, and supportive

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environment. And whereas since 1956, the

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Troy Cowboys have served generations of

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young athletes, fostering personal

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growth, character development, and a

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strong sense of community through

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organized athletics. And whereas the

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Troy Cowboys emphasize the values of

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teamwork, integrity, sportsmanship,

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discipline, and self-confidence, helping

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young people build skills and

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relationships that extend beyond the

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playing field. And whereas the Troy

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Youth Football Association is a

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registered 501c3 nonprofit organization

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whose volunteers dedicate countless

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hours to mentoring youth and creating

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meaningful opportunities for athletic

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participation and personal development.

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And whereas the Troy Cowboys welcomes

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athletes of all skill levels, ages 5

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through 13, from Troy and surrounding

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communities, ensuring that youth have

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access to programs that encourage

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physical activity, healthy competition,

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and inclusion. And whereas as members of

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the Oakland MCOME Youth Football

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Association, the Troy Cowboys support a

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mission that promotes citizenship, good

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sportsmanship, fellowship,

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participation, and physical development

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among young athletes throughout the

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region. And whereas youth sports

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organizations such as the Troy Cowboys

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strengthen the fabric of our community

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by teaching leadership, perseverance,

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respect, and teamwork while creating

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lasting memories for participants and

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their families. And whereas the city of

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Troy recognizes the positive impact the

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Troy Cowboys have made on the lives of

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thousands of young athletes and their

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families through seven decades of

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service to the community. Now,

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therefore, be it resolved that the mayor

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and city council congratulate the Troy

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Cowboys on 70 years of serving the Troy

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community and to help instill important

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life lessons to local youth. And be it

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further resolved that the Troy City

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Council and all of Troy's residents

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thank the TR Troy Cowboys for creating a

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program that will continue to positively

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impact our youth. So this proclamation

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is presented this 29th day of June.

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Again, it's signed by myself as mayor.

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All members of our Troy City Council

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have signed it. I'm honored that you

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guys are here. I think 70 years is quite

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an accomplishment. The city's only 71

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years old. So you've been here almost as

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long. I also know this is an advocacy

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group. They're amazing. We we built some

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pickle ball fields in Firefighter Spark.

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They had some concerns about our

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practice field. We heard it and we

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worked together and we resolved it.

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That's the best part. So,

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congratulations. I think you're an

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awesome group. This is a So many people

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in our community have been touched by

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the Cowboys and continue to. So,

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>> thank the parks and department.

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>> Well, if the parks are recogniz

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One more.

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» Awesome.

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>> [applause]

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» Thank you um Mayor Baker and the city

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council for uh having us today. So my

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name is Christina Rupy. I am the

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president of the Troy Cowboys. It is an

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honor and a privilege to lead an

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organization for the youth in our city

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and it is a partnership that we have

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with the city and it's wonderful to see

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my own children in the program and watch

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the other kids that come through this

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program and watch them enjoy sports,

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enjoy learning what it means to be part

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of a team because that's what gets you

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through life is learning how to be on a

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team. So, thank you again to the city

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and uh we appreciate the award. Thank

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you, Mayor. [applause]

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That concludes certificates of

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recognition of special presentations

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this evening. We don't have any

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carryover items, so we move on to public

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hearings. We do have one tonight. E1 is

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a public hearing, adoption of Brownfield

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redevelopment plan number 13 for Backard

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Lofts redevelopment. Parcel number

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88-20-26-351-016.

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That'll be introduced by Mark Adams, our

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economic development manager.

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>> Good evening, mayor. Good evening,

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council. I'm pleased to be able to do to

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introduce this project to the city of

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Troy. It's an adaptive reuse u uh loss

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of 1441 East Maple, which

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may have been known to most of you as

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the media genesis property. our good

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friends uh Brad and Antoine own that

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particular um building and it's sort of

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full circle for me because I helped them

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move into it in my previous job. So uh

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I'm glad to see that it's getting

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continuous uh use. This particular

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project is part of our brownfield

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program. And as most of you know, our

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brownfield program is an incentive we

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use to help with environmentally

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challenged, obsolescence,

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and um uh blighted properties here in

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the city of Troy to get them um

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redevelopment redeveloped. This

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particular project also is part of a new

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program that the state has come up with

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along with MISTA to assist with the

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housing crisis that we're having here in

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um southeastern Michigan, really the

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state of Michigan. And it allows for

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additional costs for um uh redevelopment

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of infrastructure and also for uh income

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um issues. um with these types of

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developments that are going to be using

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housing, but we're only going to be

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focusing in on the um uh infrastructure

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portion of the housing plan. And we had

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our consultant take a look at it to make

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sure it met all the specifications

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uh of this particular uh brownfield uh

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housing tiff. and a synopsis of it was

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included in in your packet. But

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basically what they're doing is they're

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redeveloping this redeveloping this

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property into retail office and 28

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units.

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50% or half of the units 14 will be

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income qualified units.

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uh there'll be 10 single um um bedrooms

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and and four uh twin bedrooms, two bedrooms uh units.

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So um the market qualified

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um units will be at about $1,900.

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Um the income qualified units will be at

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about $1,900 and the market rate would

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be $2,300 for the the single bedrooms.

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For the two bedrooms, it would be about

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$2,300

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uh for the income qualified, but the

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market rate would be $2,700.

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So that's a a a savings. And we all know

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that we need more affordable housing

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here um in throughout the state of

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Michigan. Uh how the brownfield program

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works and most of you already know that

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but I just want to mention it for the

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audience that's that's watching here is

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that a particular piece of property has

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a baseline assessment for for the year

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that it's going to start. And as an

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example, I would say for instance, if

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the piece of property was assessed at

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$10,000

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and then the development was going to at

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the end of 10 years make it a a million

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dollar, that incremental increase in

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taxes is what is used to reimburse the

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developer a certain amount of the

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eligible cost that's in the work plan.

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So if you have $10,000 and it's going to

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go to a couple of billion and it's

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200,000. So once they get to the value

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to where we can reimburse the the the

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uh 200,000 then that's how the program

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works. So it's no funds that are

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actually coming out of any type of pot

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of money. It's based upon the

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incremental increase in value of the

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property, which is something that um is is a great tool to use for um

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properties that we're having um issues

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uh with. Um, with that, what I want to

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do is bring up the developer to provide

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some additional commentary and to go

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over this slide. But also, um, we do

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have a consultant that we were working

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with and with fishback and that's Logan

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Mahal right right there. And none of

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these problem projects happened by

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themselves. It was a lot of work and a

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lot of uh, assistance from the team here

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in Troy. And I want to thank uh, Chris.

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I want to thank Melissa. I want to thank

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the finance department. Uh Rob Rob is

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here. I want to thank Kelly. And also I

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want to thank Lori. She put in a a lot

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of work uh also on this particular

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project. So with that, I'm going to

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bring up Milan, our the developer, to go

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over the slides. And I think you just go

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left to go forward, right to go back.

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>> Okay. So floor is yours.

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>> Thank you.

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everybody, Mayor Baker,

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members of the council, members of the

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team here. Thank you so much for having

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us and we're very excited about this

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project. Um I was hoping I could just

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spend a moment telling you why we're

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doing this. Um this building at the

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corner of Maple and Stevenson has long

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been the media genesis building and

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because of changes that happened during

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COVID to our culture and the way we work

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that building emptied out pretty fast.

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The owner of that building said that

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prior to co they had a full building

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full of employees and afterward 80% of

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their employees were working remotely

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and the building was empty. Here we come

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as a developer who does adaptive reuse

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projects. This is kind of what we focus

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on. Uh and said, "Well, gosh, that's a

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great location. The building has great

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bones. We love Troy. What can we do with

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it?" And through uh you know an

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iterative process uh with a bunch of bad

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ideas we came to a great idea uh that is

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we need to make this into a multif

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family property with some mixeduse

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elements. Um this is also not just a

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real estate investment. Um this is our

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home. So I grew up 10 miles west of

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here. My wife went to Troy High. Uh my

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family is still here in Troy. This is

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home for us. And this part of Troy

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hasn't gotten enough attention in my

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opinion. we want to be a part of of uh

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reviving it and improving it. So um in

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particular uh the the company that you

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know our our development company is

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called Blackacre and we are adaptive

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reuse experts. Um, we've been doing

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projects like this in other

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00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,360
municipalities

548
00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:40,159
uh for about 8 years now. And the

549
00:24:40,159 --> 00:24:42,400
flagship property that we are just

550
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,840
launching now that we've been working on

551
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,320
for about four years is the Pontiac

552
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,880
State Bank building in downtown Pontiac.

553
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,279
Uh it is the uh oldest and largest

554
00:24:51,279 --> 00:24:55,200
building in Pontiac, 115,000 square ft,

555
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,840
uh 14 stories, and it is now open for

556
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,039
business and leasing 114 uh luxury

557
00:25:01,039 --> 00:25:03,279
apartment units. Part of how we

558
00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:04,320
accomplished that was through a

559
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,360
brownfield uh credit as well as some

560
00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:09,919
MISTA uh credit uh that we were able to

561
00:25:09,919 --> 00:25:12,320
access. But we took a lot of the

562
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:13,679
learning there and I I don't know if you

563
00:25:13,679 --> 00:25:15,120
caught that. We started that project

564
00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:17,760
four years ago. Uh and we we went to

565
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,120
school on that project and here we are

566
00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:21,200
in Troy taking all the learning and

567
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,360
going to focus on this building and make

568
00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:26,559
it happen in about 9 or 10 months. Uh so

569
00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:29,279
uh Troy gets the benefit of all of uh

570
00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:32,320
Pontiac's teachings. Um this is the

571
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:33,840
Pontiac State Bank building that I

572
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,400
mentioned. Uh it's a 100-year-old tower

573
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,960
uh and and it's now a mixeduse

574
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,880
development. The first four floors are

575
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,200
retail and office and then uh the top 10

576
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,000
are all residential units. F leasing in

577
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,320
full swing, we're about 30% leased. Uh

578
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,320
we're about 40 days in and we think

579
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,159
we'll be full by the end of the year. Uh

580
00:25:52,159 --> 00:25:54,080
again, there are some incomerestricted

581
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,720
units in this building. Uh similar but

582
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,000
different to the way we've structured it

583
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,279
here in Troy. Um this is a little bit of

584
00:26:01,279 --> 00:26:03,760
a before and after of what we can do.

585
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,080
And this is a picture of the Pontiac

586
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,039
building. Uh this is an actual office

587
00:26:09,039 --> 00:26:10,720
that we found and this was one of the

588
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,480
nicer ones. Uh and we turned it into a

589
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,200
beautiful corner apartment uh with

590
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,200
that's a a one-bedroom unit in that

591
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,480
corner there. Uh with brand new windows,

592
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,919
new floors, new kitchens, new uh uh

593
00:26:25,919 --> 00:26:27,520
paint of course on the wall and drywall,

594
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,679
new electrical, new everything. Uh and

595
00:26:29,679 --> 00:26:31,120
we took these this building down to the

596
00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:32,799
studs. It's exactly the same way we're

597
00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:34,880
going to do it in Troy uh with the uh

598
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,279
1441 East Maple Building, but you can

599
00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:38,799
sort of see what it ends up looking

600
00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:40,320
like.

601
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,640
Uh this particular property is is

602
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,240
obviously much smaller than the Pontiac

603
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,720
building. This is a 35,000t building

604
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,520
that is uh only four stories. It

605
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,840
actually makes it a in certain ways a

606
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,440
little more difficult to develop. And

607
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,760
I'll explain why. Taking an office

608
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,159
building and making it into apartments

609
00:26:58,159 --> 00:27:00,640
only works if you have skinny buildings.

610
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,320
fat buildings don't let you do it

611
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,159
because you have these interior spaces

612
00:27:04,159 --> 00:27:05,840
with no windows where nobody wants to

613
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,679
live. Luckily, this is a skinny

614
00:27:07,679 --> 00:27:10,799
building. Uh but these buildings, office

615
00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:12,799
buildings were made with singular

616
00:27:12,799 --> 00:27:16,880
bathroom uh uh uh uh chases through the

617
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,640
building. So, all the bathrooms were on

618
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,559
the same part of the building uh on all

619
00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:22,240
four floors on both sides of the

620
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,600
building. Well, here we need plumbing

621
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:24,880
throughout the building for kitchens and

622
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,960
bathrooms. So, there's a lot of saw

623
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,880
cutting, there's a lot of plumbing that

624
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,640
goes into it. There's of course framing

625
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,720
and electrical and all that. And so

626
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,880
that's the design process, the redesign

627
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,120
process of a building like this. The

628
00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:38,640
other thing is it looks like an office

629
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,320
building and we want to make it look

630
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,480
like a home. So one of the things we're

631
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,400
doing is we're going to take that uh

632
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,080
brown paneling that you can see in the

633
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,080
pictures. Uh it kind of looks like wood.

634
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,000
It's not. It's a composite material, but

635
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,200
we're able to wrap it around the

636
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,320
building uh as well as uh strip some of

637
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,120
the the smoke uh tinting from the

638
00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:58,640
windows to make it look a little bit

639
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,640
more like a home and less like an office

640
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,679
building. Uh this will end up having 28

641
00:28:03,679 --> 00:28:07,200
units, 14 on the second floor, 14 on the

642
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,000
third floor. Uh they'll be almost

643
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,760
identical floor plans. Again, that helps

644
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,919
with plumbing and electrical. And then

645
00:28:13,919 --> 00:28:16,159
down on the ground floor, which is not

646
00:28:16,159 --> 00:28:17,840
quite a full floor if you know the

647
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,440
building, there's a drive-thru under the

648
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,360
building that will have a mixture of

649
00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:24,480
tenant amenities, uh, such as lounge

650
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,039
areas, co-working spaces. There will be

651
00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:29,440
a small retail element where we're

652
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,360
thinking about what to put there.

653
00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:33,120
There's some ideas of a bike shop or a

654
00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:35,600
coffee shop, uh, potentially child care

655
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,440
operator. We're we're still working out

656
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,120
what makes sense for the residents and

657
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,440
for the area. And then the outdoor area

658
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,279
will be re Do I have pictures of this?

659
00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:45,279
No. Uh the outdoor area will be

660
00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:48,799
redeveloped into uh an outdoor amenity

661
00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:51,679
space for the tenants, including seating

662
00:28:51,679 --> 00:28:54,960
areas, outdoor barbecue grills, as well

663
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,760
as a pickle ball court. Uh and this will

664
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,760
be a free tenant amenity. A lot of that

665
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,000
first floor, indoor and outdoor, are

666
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,240
free tenant amenities for the tenants.

667
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,720
So all built in for people to live,

668
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,760
work, play in the same space.

669
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,559
This is actual renderings of what we

670
00:29:12,559 --> 00:29:14,159
plan to do in Troy. So, these are

671
00:29:14,159 --> 00:29:16,480
actually what it'll end up looking like.

672
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,279
For example, you notice that the windows

673
00:29:19,279 --> 00:29:22,000
start only 2 ft above the floor. Right

674
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,600
now, they're floor to ceiling. It's not

675
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,360
really how we want to live necessarily.

676
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,080
So, we're creating uh the drywall across

677
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,919
and that's part of what will be covered

678
00:29:29,919 --> 00:29:31,360
by the wood paneling or the wood

679
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,760
composite paneling on the other side. Uh

680
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,120
the uh ceilings will be uh fully

681
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,080
drywalled with uh can lighting. Uh we'll

682
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,480
put in of course modern kitchens and

683
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,360
appliances. Uh uh the floors will be a

684
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,679
mixture of hardwood and and uh low pile

685
00:29:47,679 --> 00:29:50,640
carpet uh for hightra type of use,

686
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,880
families with children. Um as I

687
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,640
mentioned, a resident lounge, a fitness

688
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,679
center, outdoor lounge, and then some

689
00:29:57,679 --> 00:29:59,360
limited commercial spaces on the first

690
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,799
floor. uh the uh apartments as uh Mr.

691
00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:04,320
Adams mentioned are ones and twos, one

692
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,399
bedrooms and two bedrooms, 10 ones and

693
00:30:06,399 --> 00:30:09,039
four twos. Uh and that is how we

694
00:30:09,039 --> 00:30:12,399
engineered the prices with meeting MISTA

695
00:30:12,399 --> 00:30:15,200
standards for uh uh incomerestricted

696
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,880
pricing as well as meeting the

697
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,919
brownfield standards.

698
00:30:19,919 --> 00:30:22,080
Um a little bit about the costs of this.

699
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,600
Well, uh the the as completed value will

700
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,039
be $6.3 million. That's adding in the

701
00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:30,480
cost of acquiring the building, the

702
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,240
holding costs and soft costs, as well as

703
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,440
all of the hard costs of building and uh

704
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,520
finishing the building, uh finishing the

705
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,159
construction, excuse me. Um, in

706
00:30:40,159 --> 00:30:41,440
particular, I you can read all the

707
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,200
categories, but these categories are

708
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,360
exactly how we calculate the brownfield

709
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,279
reimbursement. And and as Mr. Adams

710
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:49,760
said, this is no new money for the city

711
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,559
of Troy. This is us investing in the

712
00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:54,720
property, creating more tax revenue, and

713
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,880
then asking for a piece of it back over

714
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,880
a period of time to help pay for the

715
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,640
construction and to help keep rents

716
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,880
down. This is how we keep rents down.

717
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,600
Um, this describes a little bit of what

718
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,520
I just said, but in particular, I want

719
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,159
to focus on that one, two, three, fourth

720
00:31:12,159 --> 00:31:14,720
one. Uh, Troy has long, and I've grown

721
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:15,760
up in this area. I've been here my

722
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,039
entire life. Troy has been the

723
00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:18,960
commercial center of Oakland County and

724
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,320
Metro Detroit forever. And today, people

725
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:23,919
work and live differently. And I think

726
00:31:23,919 --> 00:31:26,240
that when we can take an office building

727
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,120
and turn it into housing, it's a twofer

728
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,520
for the city. Uh you're taking office

729
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,200
offline that you don't need, that you

730
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,880
have over, you know, maybe more office

731
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,240
than you need right now in Troy, and

732
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,679
you're creating housing that you don't

733
00:31:37,679 --> 00:31:40,159
have. So, I feel like this could be the

734
00:31:40,159 --> 00:31:42,080
first of several such projects. We hope

735
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,159
it is. And if this is successful, we're

736
00:31:44,159 --> 00:31:46,080
already eyes open looking for other

737
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,919
properties here in Troy to do a similar

738
00:31:47,919 --> 00:31:50,480
style project.

739
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,880
Um, that is sort of concludes our

740
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,960
slides. Again, I want to say that this

741
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,399
is something very important to us. This

742
00:31:56,399 --> 00:31:59,039
is home for us. We're not out oftowners.

743
00:31:59,039 --> 00:32:01,200
We're not trying to make a buck and get

744
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,039
out of here. This is a project we are

745
00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:04,799
going to own long term and manage long

746
00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:07,600
term. Uh, we're not flippers. Uh, and if

747
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:08,960
you look at all of our other projects

748
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,559
and and Mr. Adams and and some of the

749
00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:12,480
team from the city came to see our

750
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,880
Pontiac project. That's a long-term hold

751
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,480
for us. Everything we do, this is my

752
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,480
family and this is our business. So, uh

753
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,320
I I really feel strongly about this and

754
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,039
we appreciate the effort that the city

755
00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:25,120
has put in, particularly uh the city

756
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,640
administration has put into helping us

757
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,000
get to this point. So, thank you. Um

758
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,240
Mayor Baker, I talk a lot, too. Uh is

759
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,919
there I would love to take any

760
00:32:33,919 --> 00:32:35,200
questions.

761
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,720
>> Uh let's go with Council Member

762
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:37,279
Chamberlain.

763
00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:39,679
>> Thank you, Mayor. Um sir, thank you for

764
00:32:39,679 --> 00:32:42,080
bringing your expertise, your business

765
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,640
to your hometown, our hometown here in

766
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,640
Troy. And I do believe this is a

767
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,559
gamecher. Um just a couple questions. We

768
00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:53,440
do we do brownfields, those happen all

769
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,559
the time and we are starting to do more

770
00:32:56,559 --> 00:32:58,159
and more office to residential

771
00:32:58,159 --> 00:33:00,159
conversions as you know. But what's the

772
00:33:00,159 --> 00:33:02,000
game changer here is we're doing

773
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,760
workforce housing half of the units. um

774
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,159
just wanted to understand and this is

775
00:33:08,159 --> 00:33:09,919
coming out of new legislation that came

776
00:33:09,919 --> 00:33:11,840
out of Lancing a couple of years ago and

777
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,399
so this is our first our first in Troy.

778
00:33:14,399 --> 00:33:16,240
Can you explain what makes this

779
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,640
different with the workforce housing

780
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,640
than a traditional brownfield because as

781
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,399
you shared you have brownfield elements

782
00:33:22,399 --> 00:33:24,880
hazardous materials you need to remove

783
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,519
um is it that MISTA um credits that come

784
00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:29,919
into that project or what's kind of

785
00:33:29,919 --> 00:33:32,799
makes it different in that sense

786
00:33:32,799 --> 00:33:35,760
>> um I am going to ask our consultant uh

787
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,480
Elizabeth Maserang from so she is our

788
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,159
expert when it comes to brownfields and

789
00:33:40,159 --> 00:33:42,640
tax credits in the law uh I will make a

790
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,480
mistake if I try to explain it So, I'd

791
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,399
like Elizabeth, please, to explain that

792
00:33:46,399 --> 00:33:46,880
part.

793
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,000
>> Sure.

794
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,159
>> Uh, good evening. Um, so I think the

795
00:33:50,159 --> 00:33:52,000
simplest way to probably describe it is

796
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,799
it unlocks significantly more eligible

797
00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:57,120
activities, especially being in the city

798
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,279
of Troy. So, you might be familiar with

799
00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:00,799
some they're known as core communities

800
00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:02,240
that were established through a tax

801
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,960
abatement program 10-15 years ago. And

802
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,960
they always had access to eligible

803
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,480
activities that included infrastructure

804
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,399
improvements and site prep. But not

805
00:34:10,399 --> 00:34:13,040
every city falls within that category.

806
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,200
And so historically in Troy it's been

807
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,919
environmental demo asbestous abatement

808
00:34:17,919 --> 00:34:20,399
etc. Through going through the MISTA

809
00:34:20,399 --> 00:34:21,919
program and working through setting

810
00:34:21,919 --> 00:34:23,760
aside units for workforce housing

811
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,560
infrastructure improvements rehab costs

812
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,240
towards income qualified households

813
00:34:28,240 --> 00:34:30,800
those then become eligible activities

814
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,399
and so it gives a developer a little bit

815
00:34:32,399 --> 00:34:34,159
more flexibility when it comes to

816
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:36,399
financing and using tiff specifically

817
00:34:36,399 --> 00:34:38,960
for workforce housing.

818
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,639
>> Thank you for that description. I know

819
00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:43,040
when there was uh the conversation

820
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,040
lancing, I mean it was a gamecher to

821
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,560
move this forward and now we see it

822
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,159
coming to our community and I know in

823
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:52,560
one of the pieces attached oh gosh it

824
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,119
said it's a 2021 number but it it

825
00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:58,400
mentioned oh gosh the number of

826
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,680
percentage of those who are um housing

827
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,480
burdened the percentage of their um in

828
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,359
Troy uh of their um those who are paying

829
00:35:07,359 --> 00:35:10,560
rent their um income going to rent. Oh,

830
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,079
I just had it. But it's a very small

831
00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:15,440
print and it's a good reminder um of

832
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,920
those things. Second question I wanted

833
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,079
to ask and this may be for the de um

834
00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:22,400
developer yourself.

835
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,520
Can you remind me how long? So half of

836
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,440
the units are dedicated to workforce

837
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,320
housing. Is that kind of in perpetuity

838
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,160
or is that how is that for a number of

839
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,040
years? Is that as um can you describe

840
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:35,920
the length of time?

841
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,520
>> I believe it's committed for a number of

842
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,000
how many years? committed for 15 years.

843
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,440
>> That's why I thought about a number.

844
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,599
>> Yeah. 15 years that 50% of the units

845
00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:47,040
will be committed to is it 100% 100% of

846
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,880
uh area median income.

847
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,150
>> Okay.

848
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,760
» Thank you, Council Member Hamilton.

849
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,160
>> Uh thank you. Yeah, this is something a

850
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,000
lot of us on council have talked about

851
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,920
for a long time is redeveloping our

852
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:01,440
office space. Our office vacancies

853
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,520
aren't as bad as they were during CO,

854
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,680
but Troy, as you mentioned, we have

855
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,760
6,000 businesses. We have over 130,000

856
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,680
120 130,000 people that work in the city

857
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,920
of Troy. Most of them aren't from here.

858
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,160
So, this is a great project that's doing

859
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,599
exactly what we want to do. And so, we

860
00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:19,440
thank you for coming here and hope to

861
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,160
see more. My question out of curiosity

862
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,359
was you mentioned in the Pontiac project

863
00:36:25,359 --> 00:36:26,800
it took four years and there were a lot

864
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,119
of lessons learned and now this project

865
00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:31,119
is scheduled for completion in about a

866
00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:32,880
year and a half. So what are those

867
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,720
lessons learned that you're willing to

868
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:37,839
share if you if if you want to hit up?

869
00:36:37,839 --> 00:36:41,040
>> Sure. Um I I think one of them is uh as

870
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,520
we went through I can give you three

871
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,119
reasons off the top of my head. Uh

872
00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:47,520
firstly the subcontractors that we used

873
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,839
in the Pontiac project. we might be on

874
00:36:49,839 --> 00:36:51,520
our second or third one in each

875
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,920
discipline because adaptive reuse is not

876
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,560
for everybody and not everybody is

877
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,400
nimble enough, creative enough to find a

878
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,079
way to solve a problem versus just

879
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:01,599
saying well we got to demo it and start

880
00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:04,320
over. Um so that's number one is that we

881
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,680
went through vendors who may not have

882
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,400
been equipped for this type of work. Uh

883
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,280
number two, I think that uh when it

884
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,359
comes to staging the project, there are

885
00:37:13,359 --> 00:37:16,560
a lot of contingencies, meaning that uh

886
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,720
you can't do this until you do that, but

887
00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:19,839
there are several things that could be

888
00:37:19,839 --> 00:37:21,280
done concurrently. And I think we

889
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,800
learned as we went again with adaptive

890
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,359
reuse, this is not the same thing as the

891
00:37:25,359 --> 00:37:27,200
Gant chart that you would see for a

892
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,359
groundup construction. So, we learned

893
00:37:29,359 --> 00:37:30,400
about things that we can do

894
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,079
concurrently. We realized, oh my gosh,

895
00:37:32,079 --> 00:37:33,119
we can do both of these things

896
00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:34,960
concurrently in this project that we

897
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,720
should have done in Pontiac, but didn't.

898
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:38,400
Uh, by the way, we have other projects

899
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,320
that we're working on through that four

900
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,800
years, but none of them are office to

901
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,320
apartment conversions. Just want to be

902
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,000
clear about that. We've done office to

903
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,599
medical office conversions and we've

904
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:49,920
done industrial conversions, but uh this

905
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,560
would be the second uh of this type. And

906
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,119
then the third reason is um we're just

907
00:37:55,119 --> 00:37:57,760
smarter now. I think uh we we've we've

908
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,440
learned a lot of thing. We we went down

909
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,680
a lot a lot of roads that were dead ends

910
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,599
in terms of thoughts of how to design

911
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:06,240
the units, thoughts of how to solve HVAC

912
00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:07,520
problems. So, one of the things I didn't

913
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,680
mention is you need individual HVAC in

914
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,160
each unit, heating and air conditioning.

915
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,599
Um, and the way you solve that problem,

916
00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:15,119
there's three or four different ways. We

917
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:16,800
chose the wrong one at first in Pontiac

918
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:17,920
and then we ended up with the right one

919
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,520
and we've learned that lesson. So, now

920
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,640
we know uh h how to solve it here.

921
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,359
>> Thank you. Yeah, definitely need AC this

922
00:38:25,359 --> 00:38:28,640
week for sure. Um, no, I appreciate it.

923
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,520
So, for um non-skinny buildings, which

924
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,280
Troy has a lot of those, what are your

925
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,280
options there? Uh, what do you do with

926
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,920
the middle parts? Because we have a lot

927
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,760
various types of buildings here in Troy.

928
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,280
So, I'm curious your thoughts on that.

929
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,280
>> It it is tough. I will tell you that,

930
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,040
uh, even here with 1441, there is a

931
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,800
central

932
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,000
corridor, you could call it, it's not

933
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,280
going to be a corridor, but a central

934
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,599
area of each floor that we're turning

935
00:38:53,599 --> 00:38:56,160
into storage units. Um these will be

936
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,160
locked storage units that individual

937
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,880
tenants can rent. Uh storing a bicycle

938
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,119
for example or some other um you know

939
00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:04,400
household goods, sporting goods,

940
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,640
whatever it may be. So that's uh one of

941
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,880
the things you can do. You can't put

942
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,440
storage everywhere. Uh and there's a a

943
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,200
limit to how much storage people need or

944
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,680
will will lease. So I don't necessarily

945
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,240
have a great answer for you uh other

946
00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:20,240
than um you got to find something where

947
00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:23,760
people don't need windows. Uh, so at the

948
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,920
moment what I got is a little bit of

949
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:26,880
storage. Okay.

950
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,040
>> Uh, if it was really fat enough, you

951
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,640
could probably put an indoor track and a

952
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,640
gym in the middle. Uh, if it was a big

953
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,000
enough building to sustain that kind of

954
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,280
an amenity. It's a lot of square

955
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,480
footage, though.

956
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,200
>> Thank you, Council Member.

957
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,960
>> Um, how you doing?

958
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:41,839
>> Good. Good to see you.

959
00:39:41,839 --> 00:39:45,440
>> I um I can attest because in my previous

960
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,839
or another business I'm in, I did see

961
00:39:47,839 --> 00:39:49,920
the Pontiac building before I started

962
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,760
working on it. seen it after. Amazing. I

963
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,920
think Detroit too, right? And um a

964
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,400
question I have though is how many

965
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,000
commercial units was it on the first

966
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,040
floor

967
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,240
>> in in this 1441 building? So, uh

968
00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:07,760
commercial units, it looks like three.

969
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,680
Again, we're we're still scoping it out

970
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,599
and figuring out who wants to be there,

971
00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:13,680
what will serve the tenants and the

972
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,760
community best. Uh if you look at the

973
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,760
floor plan of the ground floor, it's

974
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,960
majority tenant amenities. So, uh, a

975
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,560
gym, a lounge, and a co-working space.

976
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:25,680
And then on the front end of the

977
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,280
building, some retail spots.

978
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,560
>> Okay. Got it. And just a point of, uh,

979
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,160
information on your introduction page,

980
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,000
property description, it's actually west

981
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,680
of Stevenson. I think you guys have it

982
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:38,960
east of Stevenson.

983
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,960
>> It's definitely west of Stevenson. Yeah.

984
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,240
Excuse me for that.

985
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:44,640
>> But, no, I'm I'm a big fan of your work.

986
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,560
It's You've done amazing stuff. So,

987
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,640
>> thank you. And if you saw Pontiac before

988
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,200
>> Oh, I did. Yeah, it was it was a quite a

989
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:51,599
war zone.

990
00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:54,240
>> It's tough to pass you actually.

991
00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:55,200
>> Yeah,

992
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:55,520
>> Brooks.

993
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,280
>> Uh, thank you, Mayor. Uh, first of all,

994
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,960
thank you so much for this presentation

995
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,319
and thank you for all the work that

996
00:41:00,319 --> 00:41:02,720
you're doing. Um, I love to see

997
00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:04,720
repurposing of buildings as well. I

998
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:06,960
think it is great for the environment. I

999
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,400
think it's great for so many reasons.

1000
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,200
And I think, you know, we have a housing

1001
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,720
issue crisis really um and affordability

1002
00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:17,280
issue with housing. And you know, any

1003
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,800
way that we can improve that, I think

1004
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,119
it's a wonderful thing. Um, one thing I

1005
00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:23,280
was hoping for was to see kind of the

1006
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,040
schematics or the rendering of the

1007
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,040
outdoor space cuz you mentioned, you

1008
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,800
know, pickle ball courts and things like

1009
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,040
that, but I know right now it's pavement

1010
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,000
around it. Um, and so I was wondering

1011
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,480
how that would look and also with the

1012
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,880
pickle ball is very popular. Um, would

1013
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,680
that be exclusive to those who live in

1014
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,599
the building or is it open to the

1015
00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:46,480
community? Um, so I'll go backward. I'll

1016
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,400
answer them backward if that's okay. Uh,

1017
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,160
the pickle ball and all outdoor

1018
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,599
amenities would be restricted to

1019
00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:53,680
residents and their guests. Uh, this

1020
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,960
won't be a public space. Uh, but

1021
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,480
residents and their guests. It'll be a

1022
00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:59,920
single pickle ball court and it will be

1023
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,319
in the space underneath the drive-thru

1024
00:42:02,319 --> 00:42:04,720
where the drive-thru is right now. So,

1025
00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:07,119
it's within the envelope of the physical

1026
00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:09,359
building. Outside of that building, we

1027
00:42:09,359 --> 00:42:12,720
have a lot of asphalt, concrete, uh, you

1028
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:14,400
know, it's it's a lot of hardscape. It's

1029
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,880
not a lot of green. And we went through

1030
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,040
the sustainable review

1031
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,800
>> sustainability review board uh to talk

1032
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,319
about adding uh green spaces and uh we

1033
00:42:26,319 --> 00:42:28,400
went through a lengthy process and were

1034
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,079
approved. So there is a plan for that.

1035
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:31,920
I'm sorry I didn't include it today, but

1036
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,560
that was a passed through the

1037
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,839
sustainable sustainability review board

1038
00:42:37,839 --> 00:42:40,480
uh for their uh approval.

1039
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,000
>> And so the answer to your the short

1040
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,680
answer is there's a lot more green in

1041
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,440
the final version than what there is

1042
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:45,760
today.

1043
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,280
>> Okay, good. That's good to know.

1044
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:48,560
>> Yeah.

1045
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,599
>> My only question after tonight, assuming

1046
00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:53,280
approval here, sounds like you're going

1047
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,040
to get that based on what I've heard.

1048
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,400
What what are your next steps? What kind

1049
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:57,760
of approvals are you waiting for from

1050
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,560
the state or what's next for to actually

1051
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,240
get this project going?

1052
00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:05,040
>> Um, so if approved this evening, uh, our

1053
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,520
next step would be to submit a 3D1 work

1054
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,240
plan to MISTA for their statutory review

1055
00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:11,920
and approval for the portion that they

1056
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,680
approve which is the school taxes which

1057
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,520
they make whole on approval. So our next

1058
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,040
step would be to take that document to

1059
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,520
them and then once that is approved and

1060
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,160
the reimbursement agreements executed,

1061
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,920
we're set.

1062
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,400
>> So you're you're ready to go with We we

1063
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,640
are ready. Uh we have actually even

1064
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,000
applied for a building permit here in

1065
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,359
town uh to again do things concurrently.

1066
00:43:33,359 --> 00:43:34,880
Uh as I mentioned before, we've learned

1067
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,400
about concurrence and how to save time.

1068
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,480
So uh we have applied for a building

1069
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,800
permit. We're in that process now. And

1070
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,359
as well as uh finalizing things with the

1071
00:43:43,359 --> 00:43:45,760
city and the state for the tax credit.

1072
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,440
>> And this is a question that I know the

1073
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,599
answer to, but I it wasn't presented.

1074
00:43:49,599 --> 00:43:51,200
You have recommendation from the

1075
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,839
Brownfield board, correct? 5 to zero.

1076
00:43:53,839 --> 00:43:55,280
It's in the it's in the packet. We we

1077
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,280
did we we did present something very

1078
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:58,720
similar to today to the Brownfield

1079
00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:00,800
Authority here in Troy. They asked a lot

1080
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,319
of good questions and we did receive a

1081
00:44:02,319 --> 00:44:03,359
50 approval.

1082
00:44:03,359 --> 00:44:04,720
>> And you already have prel pre

1083
00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:06,240
preliminary site plan approval from the

1084
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:07,119
planning commission as well.

1085
00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:09,520
>> Yes, we do. Yes, we do. Thank you.

1086
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,800
>> I was excuse me. I was remiss and I was

1087
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,160
going to mention that the Brownfield

1088
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,920
board did approve it and of course it's

1089
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,319
contingent upon city council approval,

1090
00:44:20,319 --> 00:44:23,520
but we did go through that uh process

1091
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,160
and Brent did take a look at it also.

1092
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,160
>> Thank you. Appreciate it. Any other

1093
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,920
questions? All right, let's open the

1094
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,599
public hearing. I don't see anyone have

1095
00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:33,040
signed up to speak on E1 this public

1096
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,319
hearing, but that doesn't prohibit

1097
00:44:34,319 --> 00:44:38,480
anybody from speaking if they'd like to.

1098
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,000
All right, seeing none, we'll close the

1099
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,280
public hearing. Ask if someone would

1100
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:42,800
like to move the resolution. Council

1101
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:43,520
member Chamberlain.

1102
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,000
>> Thank you, Mayor. I'll move E1, public

1103
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,119
hearing, adoption of Brownfield red

1104
00:44:49,119 --> 00:44:52,160
development plan number 13 for Bashard

1105
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,119
Lofts redevelopment parcel number

1106
00:44:55,119 --> 00:45:03,270
88-20-226-351-016

1107
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,920
as printed in the agenda packet. support

1108
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,200
>> moved by council member Chamberlain

1109
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:08,560
supported by council member Gun that we

1110
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,319
approve E1 public hearing adoption of

1111
00:45:10,319 --> 00:45:11,920
the brownfield redevelopment plan number

1112
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,599
13 for backward I don't know if it's

1113
00:45:13,599 --> 00:45:15,440
bashard or backard I've been saying both

1114
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,359
loft's redevelopment parcel number

1115
00:45:17,359 --> 00:45:21,829
88-20-26-351-016

1116
00:45:21,839 --> 00:45:23,760
as printed in the agenda packet

1117
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,839
discussion

1118
00:45:25,839 --> 00:45:26,480
member Chamberlain

1119
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,800
>> thank you mayor um as I said before this

1120
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,520
is clearly a gamecher we do brownfields

1121
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,720
we do work force um we do conversions

1122
00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:37,040
from office to residential, but this is

1123
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,960
the first one in Troy where we're adding

1124
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,359
workforce housing. Um, I'm just very

1125
00:45:41,359 --> 00:45:43,200
delighted and I do want to I did find

1126
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,880
that figure. I just wanted to read it.

1127
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,160
It's in your proposal stating that 28%

1128
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,119
of renters are considered overburdened,

1129
00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:53,280
which is defined as spending more than

1130
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,160
30% of household income on housing. And

1131
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,599
that was according to the Misha

1132
00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:00,160
statewide housing report um in it here

1133
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,240
in Troy. So, thank you for contributing

1134
00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:04,800
towards addressing the housing crisis

1135
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,640
that we have in our community and that

1136
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,960
we have around the state.

1137
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,160
>> Thank you. Additional comments.

1138
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:13,440
A lot were said during the questions,

1139
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:14,800
but I'll just add a couple things. I

1140
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:15,920
first of all, I know it was a long time

1141
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,359
getting here once we got to this point.

1142
00:46:17,359 --> 00:46:18,880
I'm happy to see that we're we're at

1143
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,359
this point. Thankful to our consultant,

1144
00:46:21,359 --> 00:46:22,960
to your consultants, and everybody on

1145
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,880
city staff for um getting us here today.

1146
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,480
Um,

1147
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,920
we talked a lot about how most office

1148
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,760
buildings don't easily convert to

1149
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,359
residential and people are always saying

1150
00:46:35,359 --> 00:46:37,119
convert res convert all these empty

1151
00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:39,200
office buildings to residential and you

1152
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,680
spoke very clearly and eloquently about

1153
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,440
the reasons why it can be so difficult.

1154
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:44,880
Probably clearer than I've heard most

1155
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,079
people give in a lot of presentations

1156
00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:48,400
I've seen. So, I appreciate that. Um, I

1157
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,000
do um love that you hopefully with

1158
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,440
tonight's approval and moving forward

1159
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:54,880
you're looking for other options in the

1160
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,880
city of Troy. still think that's uh

1161
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,560
something that we can continue to be

1162
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,000
proud of in this city. We are kind of a

1163
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,520
leaders regionally and some of the other

1164
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,040
work that's been done and some of other

1165
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,280
projects. So this is again a new and

1166
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,599
exciting project and please keep it up.

1167
00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:11,040
Um I think the other aspect that you

1168
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,640
touched on a little bit is the Maple

1169
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,680
Corridor and as long as I've been on

1170
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,359
council or up here, we've talked about

1171
00:47:17,359 --> 00:47:20,000
trying to make Maple something more than

1172
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,400
it is. Um part of it's a shared couple

1173
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:23,839
cities border. you know, it's a little

1174
00:47:23,839 --> 00:47:26,000
different than something all in choice

1175
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,000
borders, but uh I love that you're

1176
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,400
bringing some nice residential to an

1177
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,000
area that people don't automatically

1178
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,720
think of as a place for residential. So,

1179
00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:36,960
thank you for doing that. Uh I hope that

1180
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,000
it will spur further development in that

1181
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,960
area um and places for people who live

1182
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,440
there to go and to to eat and do things

1183
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,440
of that nature and more residents, of

1184
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:52,079
course. um kind of just a commentary. I

1185
00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:54,319
it's we hear about it and we read about

1186
00:47:54,319 --> 00:47:55,760
it and I'm certainly not immune to

1187
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,319
understanding it, but what gets now

1188
00:47:58,319 --> 00:48:01,520
labeled as attainable or affordable,

1189
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,119
it's still a lot of money. Even the

1190
00:48:03,119 --> 00:48:05,599
reduced rental amounts are way more than

1191
00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:09,040
people have traditionally paid for um

1192
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:13,839
even really nice housing. And and it's just an interesting um place we're

1193
00:48:13,839 --> 00:48:15,760
in. So, thank you for working with the

1194
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,079
state to to come up with something that

1195
00:48:18,079 --> 00:48:20,720
makes sense. Um, and it is a reminder

1196
00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:25,359
that it's what 14, you know, half the

1197
00:48:25,359 --> 00:48:27,280
units are going to be a little bit

1198
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:28,720
cheaper than what they would otherwise

1199
00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:30,480
be. Like that's not going to solve any

1200
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,280
crisis here in in Metro Detroit, but it

1201
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:34,640
is a good first step for the city of

1202
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:39,040
Troy. So, thank you for doing that. Um,

1203
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,960
I think that's it. So, I lost the vote,

1204
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:41,839
Miss Dixon.

1205
00:48:41,839 --> 00:48:43,520
>> Council member Brooks. Yes.

1206
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:44,880
>> Council member Chamberlain.

1207
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:45,760
>> Yes.

1208
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:46,720
>> Council member Gun.

1209
00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:47,040
>> Yes.

1210
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,160
>> Council member Hamilton.

1211
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:48,480
>> Yes.

1212
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:49,440
>> Mayor Baker.

1213
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:50,720
>> Yes.

1214
00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:52,000
>> Oh, it's only five of us. Motion

1215
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,599
carries.

1216
00:48:53,599 --> 00:48:57,750
>> Thank you.

1217
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,200
» That concludes public hearings tonight.

1218
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:00,800
Next up for public comment for items on

1219
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,319
the agenda from Troy residents and

1220
00:49:02,319 --> 00:49:03,839
businesses. We do have two people signed

1221
00:49:03,839 --> 00:49:05,280
up. As a reminder, you have three

1222
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,160
minutes. You know the rules that our uh

1223
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:09,760
city council rules of procedure. Clock

1224
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,839
will countdown. Light turns yellow. You

1225
00:49:11,839 --> 00:49:13,520
have one minute. the light turns red.

1226
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,559
That is the uh time. So, first up is

1227
00:49:16,559 --> 00:49:23,349
David Niffin.

1228
00:49:23,359 --> 00:49:25,440
Good evening, Dave Niffin, 5501 Boros,

1229
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,599
Troy, Michigan. Um, I had the pleasure

1230
00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:30,000
this spring of visiting firefighters

1231
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,040
park often for my son's T-ball. And in

1232
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,280
doing so, I was able to see the pickle

1233
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:36,960
ball court, the big pickle ball court,

1234
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,200
the the concrete and everything. also

1235
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,520
seen the the ribbon cutting from the uh

1236
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,119
the new cricket field and it brought me

1237
00:49:43,119 --> 00:49:45,440
back to the early 90s when I was at

1238
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,680
Athens as an underassman. The

1239
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,480
upperassman had circulated a petition to

1240
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,960
get this city to build an outdoor roller

1241
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,200
hockey rink much like we have at Bordon

1242
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,000
Park in Rochester Hills in Ferndale and

1243
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,400
Oak Park and Berkeley. And I remember

1244
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,240
signing a petition two years in a row

1245
00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:04,160
and I believe somebody brought it here

1246
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,960
older than I. And obviously we still

1247
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,240
don't have one 35 years later. Um I

1248
00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:11,920
still go up to Bordon Park, play hockey.

1249
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,359
I take my kids up there. It's a great

1250
00:50:13,359 --> 00:50:15,760
park. It's a great uh facility. And of

1251
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,280
course, nobody was talking about pickle

1252
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:18,720
ball back then or cricket or any of

1253
00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:20,559
these other things. And when I drive

1254
00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:21,839
through some of the neighborhoods and I

1255
00:50:21,839 --> 00:50:24,400
see kids dragging a hockey net out of

1256
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,559
the street so cars can pass, they say

1257
00:50:26,559 --> 00:50:29,200
car and it reminds me that uh we're

1258
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,599
still waiting. So just keep that in

1259
00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:32,559
mind.

1260
00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:34,319
>> Thank you.

1261
00:50:34,319 --> 00:50:47,829
Next up is Donnie Niff.

1262
00:50:47,839 --> 00:50:52,079
Hi, I'm Donnie Niffin from 5501 Boros

1263
00:50:52,079 --> 00:50:54,800
Drive, Troy, Michigan. We just took a

1264
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,000
trip to Troy, Ohio, and we drove through

1265
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,760
a ton of towns coming back. And all of

1266
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,599
them had

1267
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:06,559
decorations up for America 250, even

1268
00:51:06,559 --> 00:51:10,559
lights. I know there is a city 250

1269
00:51:10,559 --> 00:51:12,960
event, but I think the city could do

1270
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,240
better with lights and more decorations

1271
00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:19,200
to show how proud we are for our

1272
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:23,280
nation's great birthday.

1273
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:24,160
Thank you, Johnny.

1274
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,520
>> That'll be all.

1275
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:26,880
>> That concludes those that have signed up

1276
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,240
for public comment for items on the

1277
00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:29,680
agenda from Troy residents and

1278
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,119
businesses. Now's an opportunity for

1279
00:51:31,119 --> 00:51:34,240
council and administration to respond.

1280
00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:38,230
Anyone like?

1281
00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:39,760
» I will. I appreciate you both coming in

1282
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,280
as always. Uh I think the

1283
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:44,960
parks and recck board should be the next

1284
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,359
place you go to talk about outdoor

1285
00:51:47,359 --> 00:51:49,599
hockey, roller hockey, because they

1286
00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:51,440
would be a recommending body. Of course,

1287
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,599
there are always financial constraints

1288
00:51:53,599 --> 00:51:55,920
um that will drive some of those

1289
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,960
decisions, but um I know there are a lot

1290
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,559
of different recreational uses that

1291
00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:02,240
people are looking for and but the parks

1292
00:52:02,240 --> 00:52:04,240
and rec board would probably be a great

1293
00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:07,119
place to start to bring it to revive it.

1294
00:52:07,119 --> 00:52:08,960
I haven't seen the petition from 35

1295
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,800
years ago. So, um and to you, Donnie, uh

1296
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,800
we do have some banners up on our civic

1297
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,599
center property for America 250. I'm

1298
00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:18,800
with you. Yeah, I mean, I wish we had

1299
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,400
decorations everywhere because I think

1300
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,000
it's a really cool and monumental thing

1301
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:27,359
that we're experiencing. Um, and

1302
00:52:27,359 --> 00:52:30,079
I'm I'm with you. But here we are. Um,

1303
00:52:30,079 --> 00:52:31,760
we'll celebrate Wednesday night here in

1304
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,280
the city and I hope that um you

1305
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,559
celebrate wherever you are and we'll

1306
00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:39,920
keep decorating and keep talking about

1307
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,839
it. Anyone have decorations at home?

1308
00:52:41,839 --> 00:52:43,359
Rebecca, go ahead.

1309
00:52:43,359 --> 00:52:44,720
>> I wish I did. You know, get those

1310
00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:47,359
American flags up. Um, I don't know what

1311
00:52:47,359 --> 00:52:49,040
it would take at this point to be able

1312
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,800
to print all those lovely posters um or

1313
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,480
banners that we have in the civic center

1314
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,960
and put them up and down Big Beaver. I

1315
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,440
would love that. Um, I I would look to

1316
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,480
city management to um to tell us could

1317
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,960
we do that and is there budget for that?

1318
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,280
>> City manager, you want to speak to that?

1319
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:11,839
>> I mean or do you would I I

1320
00:53:11,839 --> 00:53:14,960
>> No, we have some of those banners up. Um

1321
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,720
I I know there was an issue with the

1322
00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:19,440
company trying to get um things done in

1323
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,040
time and more and cost and different

1324
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,040
things like that, but we do have banners

1325
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,760
out not only Civic Center on campus, but

1326
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,440
um we tried to stretch out beyond that a

1327
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,520
little bit too.

1328
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,119
>> They were they were supposed to be up

1329
00:53:31,119 --> 00:53:32,880
and down Big Beaver, but there was an

1330
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:33,119
issue.

1331
00:53:33,119 --> 00:53:35,599
>> So I empathize having my workplace, we

1332
00:53:35,599 --> 00:53:37,599
were having issues trying to print and

1333
00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:39,920
it was our centennial and believe me, so

1334
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,760
I I empathize that there can be issues.

1335
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,440
So there there are some issues and it

1336
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,040
sounds like there was a vision to have

1337
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,920
it all up and down. Um so but thank you.

1338
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,800
I agree. I would love to celebrate and

1339
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,119
as much as I wish we had a parade even

1340
00:53:53,119 --> 00:53:56,720
so in the future

1341
00:53:56,720 --> 00:53:58,880
>> I'll just suggest on your way home look

1342
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,240
to your left on Steve and you'll see

1343
00:54:00,240 --> 00:54:02,880
what I did with the with lights all

1344
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,680
over.

1345
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,200
>> One final comment on that. I used to

1346
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,200
have a neighbor who every Memorial Day

1347
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,800
put out flags in the everyone's resident

1348
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,079
in front of every house in front of our

1349
00:54:14,079 --> 00:54:15,040
neighborhood. And I always thought that

1350
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,640
was a very cool thing that he did

1351
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,640
individually. And I I know that some

1352
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,480
HOAs are doing things like that in their

1353
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,160
individual neighborhoods. Um I had a

1354
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,400
vision of 250 flags somewhere out here.

1355
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,079
But [clears throat] you know, things

1356
00:54:26,079 --> 00:54:28,480
happen. But uh we'll we'll celebrate and

1357
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,480
enjoy the importance of this event

1358
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,720
regardless. But u I do hear you and I

1359
00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:34,160
appreciate you you bringing that to us

1360
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:35,680
tonight.

1361
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:36,880
>> All right.

1362
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,200
Uh,

1363
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:40,960
no postponed items this evening. So, we

1364
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,720
move on to regular business. I1 is board

1365
00:54:42,720 --> 00:54:44,400
and committee appointments. We do have

1366
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,480
one mayoral appointment this evening.

1367
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,240
I'll move resolve that the mayor of the

1368
00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:49,680
city of Troy hereby appoints the

1369
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,200
following nominated persons to serve on

1370
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,200
boards and committees as indicated.

1371
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:54,800
Anthony Rosen Bloom to the Local

1372
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,280
Development Finance Authority, LDFA, as

1373
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:58,640
the resident member for the term

1374
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,680
expiring June 30th, 2030.

1375
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,000
>> Support. Moved by the chair, supported

1376
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,280
by council member Chamberlain that we

1377
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:06,800
approve the reappoint of Anthony

1378
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,559
Rosenlum as a resident member to the

1379
00:55:08,559 --> 00:55:10,000
local development finance authority for

1380
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,400
the term expiring June 30th, 2030. Any

1381
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,319
discussion?

1382
00:55:14,319 --> 00:55:15,359
>> The vote, Miss Dixon.

1383
00:55:15,359 --> 00:55:16,559
>> Council member Chamberlain,

1384
00:55:16,559 --> 00:55:16,880
>> yes.

1385
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:17,760
>> Council member Gun,

1386
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:18,079
>> yes.

1387
00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:19,040
>> Council member Hamilton,

1388
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:19,359
>> yes.

1389
00:55:19,359 --> 00:55:20,240
>> Mayor Baker,

1390
00:55:20,240 --> 00:55:20,640
>> yes.

1391
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:21,599
>> Council member Brooks,

1392
00:55:21,599 --> 00:55:22,480
>> yes.

1393
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,160
>> Motion carries. That concludes mayoral

1394
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:25,760
appointments this evening. Uh we have no

1395
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,839
city council appointments. I2 is board

1396
00:55:27,839 --> 00:55:30,079
committee nominations. I have no mayoral

1397
00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:32,480
nominations and there will be no city

1398
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,280
council nominations this evening. So we

1399
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,440
move on. There is a request for close

1400
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,760
session. I don't feel the need to

1401
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,839
adjourn into close session based on what

1402
00:55:41,839 --> 00:55:43,280
was presented. Does anyone feel

1403
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:44,880
differently like to move it?

1404
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,119
>> All right.

1405
00:55:47,119 --> 00:55:50,640
I4 is a bid waiver GPS system for golf

1406
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,480
carts and golf courses and that'll be

1407
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:53,839
introduced by Allison Leech, our

1408
00:55:53,839 --> 00:55:58,150
assistant recreation director.

1409
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,319
Good evening, mayor and council. The

1410
00:56:00,319 --> 00:56:02,000
item before you is a bid waiver for

1411
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,400
leasing GPS systems for the golf carts

1412
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,480
at both Silven Glenn and Sanctuary Lake

1413
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,960
golf courses. City management recommends

1414
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,960
waving the bid process and approving a

1415
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:12,880
contract with Reach Golfer Reach

1416
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,040
Golfers, excuse me, of Scottsdale,

1417
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,599
Arizona in the amount of $25 per month

1418
00:56:17,599 --> 00:56:21,200
per cart for 48 months or $51,000

1419
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,440
annually with a onetime shipping fee for

1420
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:27,119
the equipment necessary of $1,250

1421
00:56:27,119 --> 00:56:29,520
per course using Alliance Funding Group

1422
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,599
for the financing. I'm happy to answer

1423
00:56:31,599 --> 00:56:33,200
any questions you may have at this time.

1424
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,280
And I also have Trent Alteri who is the

1425
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:36,960
general manager at Silven Glenn with me

1426
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:37,920
as well.

1427
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,280
>> I do know there were questions asked in

1428
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:40,799
advance. Typically those are on the

1429
00:56:40,799 --> 00:56:42,559
table when we get here. I just realized

1430
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:44,400
they're not but we did get email copy.

1431
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:45,839
Did everyone see those?

1432
00:56:45,839 --> 00:56:47,440
>> Okay. Did you get your

1433
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,160
>> I read them briefly and um so I hope I'm

1434
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,119
not going to repeat myself but yes I

1435
00:56:53,119 --> 00:56:55,520
>> All right. Did you want to council?

1436
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:56,960
>> Yes. So wanted to follow. So they

1437
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,440
weren't answered in terms of um question

1438
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:00,720
by question. they were just kind of

1439
00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:02,720
summarized. So the couple of the things

1440
00:57:02,720 --> 00:57:04,000
that I was just trying to get

1441
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,440
confirmation on is one the system and

1442
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:08,880
the reason why I care a lot is you know

1443
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,799
I come from a golfing family. My grandma

1444
00:57:10,799 --> 00:57:13,440
she got her hole in one and my grandpa

1445
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,680
he golfed to the to the um almost the

1446
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:16,960
day he died I think because he was

1447
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,119
trying to get the hole in one trying to

1448
00:57:19,119 --> 00:57:21,440
uh trying to to meet what grandma did.

1449
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,920
So um and I'm not a great golfer but um

1450
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,400
I worked at golf courses. I worked up um

1451
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,160
at the Highlands on the Ross. That was

1452
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,640
my summer job growing up. Um, so it was

1453
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,359
around golf a lot. Um, so I understand

1454
00:57:33,359 --> 00:57:37,200
we want to be um, we want to be modern.

1455
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,079
We want to be where the field is going.

1456
00:57:40,079 --> 00:57:42,000
I think my question was around pace of

1457
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,920
play and all my question was kind of

1458
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,400
what's in it for the golfer. I got it

1459
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,319
from the memo. What's in it for for

1460
00:57:48,319 --> 00:57:51,040
trune? Um, but what's in it um, health,

1461
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,200
safety, welfare? What's in it for their

1462
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,680
experience as a player? And it sounds

1463
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,760
like there's a lot of great things. Um,

1464
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,280
even if golfers might use their own

1465
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,079
apps, there's great things in this. I

1466
00:58:02,079 --> 00:58:04,799
think that behind that, the question was

1467
00:58:04,799 --> 00:58:06,960
pace of play. Is it going to create a a

1468
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,839
stressful system system for players? And

1469
00:58:09,839 --> 00:58:12,160
I asked that because having worked on

1470
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,480
like big courses like the Ross at the

1471
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,000
Highlands where like you want to, you

1472
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:17,680
know, it's a private golf course, you

1473
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,760
want to move a lot of volume, whereas

1474
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,920
municipal courses, it's about having a

1475
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,640
good time and not being stressed. I have

1476
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,520
to keep moving. and if I'm out there

1477
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,440
takes me forever, you know, I don't want

1478
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,040
to feel stressed that someone's behind

1479
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,000
me pushing me along. Um, can you speak

1480
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,000
to that? Like how it, you know, it won't

1481
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,599
create undo burden on players.

1482
00:58:37,599 --> 00:58:39,359
>> Yeah, definitely. So, Trent, you can add

1483
00:58:39,359 --> 00:58:40,960
anything if you'd like, but I'll try my

1484
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,839
best. So, pace of play is the number one

1485
00:58:43,839 --> 00:58:46,000
complaint that we receive at both

1486
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:49,280
Sanctuary and Silven Glenn. Um, so that

1487
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,200
would be like the big component that

1488
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,240
this takes care of. we would be able to

1489
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,319
put groups of golfers out there and they

1490
00:58:56,319 --> 00:58:58,480
would be able to move more efficiently

1491
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,559
um using the GPS system because we can

1492
00:59:00,559 --> 00:59:02,720
kind of prompt them if needed. Um if we

1493
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:04,720
have more groups ready to start, if

1494
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,720
they're taking too long at one hole and

1495
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,960
people are backed up. Um so that's

1496
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:10,559
really the big thing. And then that's

1497
00:59:10,559 --> 00:59:12,400
takes care of a safety issue as well. If

1498
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,079
there's hazards on the course, if we're

1499
00:59:14,079 --> 00:59:15,520
too backed up and everyone's hanging out

1500
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,720
in one area. Um but that that kind of

1501
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,559
answers your pace of play question, I

1502
00:59:20,559 --> 00:59:22,640
Well, pace of play, I think, is um

1503
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,720
really of the sense when you're a really

1504
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,480
good player. When you're someone like me

1505
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,240
playing, you don't want to get stressed

1506
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:29,839
out that there's all these people behind

1507
00:59:29,839 --> 00:59:32,480
you. Um and are we going to discourage,

1508
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,079
you know, those folks from playing? Like

1509
00:59:34,079 --> 00:59:35,839
how do what will you do in that case

1510
00:59:35,839 --> 00:59:36,720
when you got

1511
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,319
>> Yeah, definitely. I'm going to defer to

1512
00:59:38,319 --> 00:59:39,280
Trent on that question.

1513
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:40,880
>> Say what Trent, what do you do now? Like

1514
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,480
maybe that's a I mean, how would how

1515
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:43,839
will this make it better or

1516
00:59:43,839 --> 00:59:46,400
>> So for for Silven um like we're able to

1517
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,079
see the bottlenecks. So there's

1518
00:59:48,079 --> 00:59:50,000
basically three locations, seven and

1519
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,079
eight backto-back par threes. You go

1520
00:59:52,079 --> 00:59:54,160
into a long par4 and then 10. So when

1521
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,640
things get backed up, it's in that area.

1522
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,400
So we're able to see that from the pro

1523
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,960
shop. Um and then to add to your um to

1524
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:02,480
your remarks about pace play, it is our

1525
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,240
number one complaint. Um and we do have

1526
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,000
a wide range of players. You have guys

1527
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:07,440
that have been playing their entire

1528
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,839
lives. You have firsttime golfers. And

1529
01:00:09,839 --> 01:00:12,480
then so for the first time golfers, they

1530
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:14,400
may not be aware of pace of play. like

1531
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:15,839
they may have no idea that it should

1532
01:00:15,839 --> 01:00:18,160
take them four, four and a half hours.

1533
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,960
Um they may be driving on the course and

1534
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,880
get lost. With this GPS, it'll be able

1535
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,599
to navigate them hole by hole, tell them

1536
01:00:25,599 --> 01:00:28,240
where to go. Um and then also you'll be

1537
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:29,839
able to see in front of you. You can see

1538
01:00:29,839 --> 01:00:31,680
that cart how far it is. Like you're on

1539
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,079
that first te, the person's 100 yards

1540
01:00:34,079 --> 01:00:37,280
out, they're actually 350 yards out. So

1541
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,280
instead of waiting and then people

1542
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:40,720
behind you get backed up, they're able

1543
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,400
to hit that ball confidently and not

1544
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,160
worry about potentially hitting into

1545
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,000
somebody. So that that's kind of that's

1546
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:47,760
kind of the main the main thing is being

1547
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,319
able to see um that golfer in front of

1548
01:00:50,319 --> 01:00:53,119
you. You're able to see hazards. So if

1549
01:00:53,119 --> 01:00:54,480
somebody comes to Silver Glenn for the

1550
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:55,760
first time, there's a creek that runs

1551
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,599
through the course. You can be driving,

1552
01:00:57,599 --> 01:00:59,119
may not know it's there, and you run

1553
01:00:59,119 --> 01:01:01,599
right into it. With that that uh with

1554
01:01:01,599 --> 01:01:03,680
the uh the GPS, you're able to visually

1555
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,319
see that. Um and on top of that there's

1556
01:01:06,319 --> 01:01:09,520
also um the geo fencing part of it. So

1557
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,440
that's how we're able to protect the

1558
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,440
turf for Silven Glenn. There's no cart

1559
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,240
pass. So we'll be able to potentially

1560
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,119
let carts out maybe in early March

1561
01:01:19,119 --> 01:01:21,040
instead of the end of March or April

1562
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:22,400
just because we're able to protect

1563
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,720
certain areas of the course that flood.

1564
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,040
Um so that that's kind of the main

1565
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,520
aspects of the of the technology.

1566
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,440
>> That's really helpful. I think when one

1567
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:32,960
of the questions I'd asked is, you know,

1568
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:34,960
what about other courses that you run in

1569
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,359
Michigan and you gave some examples and

1570
01:01:37,359 --> 01:01:40,640
how golfers um their feedback on the

1571
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,240
technology, the GPS, I think they're

1572
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:43,440
very happy, right?

1573
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:44,960
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I know the one

1574
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,599
that's in uh it's PCAT. They they do use

1575
01:01:47,599 --> 01:01:50,559
a GPS, not the same exact one. Um

1576
01:01:50,559 --> 01:01:52,319
there's a course in uh Noblesville,

1577
01:01:52,319 --> 01:01:54,400
Indiana, that's part of Tron Purgatory.

1578
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,400
Um used to be a top 100 golf course.

1579
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,400
They've been using it um for the past 3

1580
01:01:58,400 --> 01:01:59,920
months. I've reached out to that general

1581
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:01,440
manager and he has not a single

1582
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,440
complaint at all. So, it's it's worked.

1583
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,359
perfect. Um, no issues at

1584
01:02:05,359 --> 01:02:07,599
all. Um, so yeah,

1585
01:02:07,599 --> 01:02:09,440
>> and what I do like for health, safety,

1586
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,520
welfare, you know, a golfer, especially

1587
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,359
if you're new or you're slow like me,

1588
01:02:13,359 --> 01:02:15,119
you could see you can see kind of where

1589
01:02:15,119 --> 01:02:16,559
folks are in front of you. So, it kind

1590
01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:18,799
of gives you, as you said, um, just

1591
01:02:18,799 --> 01:02:20,559
being careful when you tee off. And so,

1592
01:02:20,559 --> 01:02:22,160
I I do see there can be

1593
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:23,920
>> correct. Yeah. And and we are definitely

1594
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,640
not we're not trying to police the

1595
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,640
course. We're not trying to like be rude

1596
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,480
about it like like simply people may not

1597
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:32,720
know. Um so we're able to see that log

1598
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,200
jam drive out there and obviously we'll

1599
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,119
have our customer service in place and

1600
01:02:37,119 --> 01:02:39,119
train our staff on how to handle those

1601
01:02:39,119 --> 01:02:40,640
sorts of situations. They can be

1602
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,599
delicate sometimes. Um but definitely

1603
01:02:43,599 --> 01:02:46,160
we're able to address the issue before

1604
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,040
it becomes a bigger issue with uh with

1605
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:50,640
the technology that we'll have like in

1606
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,000
the in the pro shop.

1607
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:53,200
>> Okay. Excellent. Thank you.

1608
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:54,720
>> Yeah.

1609
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:59,359
Council um So this GPS system approve

1610
01:02:59,359 --> 01:03:00,880
it. When would you guys have it

1611
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:02,319
operational?

1612
01:03:02,319 --> 01:03:04,880
>> Uh yeah, we've been in talks. So um if

1613
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,760
it is approved today, um I can I believe

1614
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:09,200
we'll start the process by the end of

1615
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:10,799
this month, end of July.

1616
01:03:10,799 --> 01:03:11,119
>> July.

1617
01:03:11,119 --> 01:03:12,480
>> So they'll they'll come out, they'll

1618
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,000
geoence the course. They'll map

1619
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,400
everything out. Um mark any hazards,

1620
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,839
bunkers, map the entire thing. Um the

1621
01:03:19,839 --> 01:03:22,240
install should take hopefully two to

1622
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:23,839
three days. um because they're they're

1623
01:03:23,839 --> 01:03:25,440
going to have to navigate our normal

1624
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,680
busy play and and maybe do like a

1625
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,000
morning afternoon sort of thing. Um but

1626
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,000
yeah, we're discussion was the end of

1627
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:32,559
July.

1628
01:03:32,559 --> 01:03:35,039
>> Then do you need people to test it?

1629
01:03:35,039 --> 01:03:37,200
>> Mark, [laughter] no.

1630
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,280
>> You can be my volunteer.

1631
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:40,640
>> The answer is no. He cannot be your

1632
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:40,880
volunt.

1633
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,200
>> Got it. Some of us have learned lessons

1634
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,244
about that. So we don't do that.

1635
01:03:45,244 --> 01:03:45,440
[laughter]

1636
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:49,039
>> Uh any other questions? Someone want to

1637
01:03:49,039 --> 01:03:51,920
move the resolution?

1638
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:52,799
Council Chamberlain,

1639
01:03:52,799 --> 01:03:56,160
>> I'll move it. Um, I move I4 bid waiver

1640
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,640
GPS system for golf carts at golf

1641
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:02,000
courses as printed in the agenda packet.

1642
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:03,359
>> Moved by council member Chamberlain,

1643
01:04:03,359 --> 01:04:04,480
supported by council member Hamilton

1644
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,720
that we approve I4 bid waiver GPS system

1645
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,640
for golf carts at golf courses as

1646
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,079
printed in the agenda packet. Any

1647
01:04:10,079 --> 01:04:11,359
discussion?

1648
01:04:11,359 --> 01:04:12,559
>> Council member Hamilton.

1649
01:04:12,559 --> 01:04:15,680
>> I mean, driving to council today, the

1650
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,520
Silvin was bumping as always, as has

1651
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,559
been for 100 years. Ever since COVID,

1652
01:04:20,559 --> 01:04:24,319
golf rounds have gone way up and it's

1653
01:04:24,319 --> 01:04:26,960
great to improve the experience because

1654
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:28,960
they're a great asset to our city.

1655
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:30,640
>> For sure.

1656
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,160
>> I was just going to say a lightarted

1657
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,000
note. Um I'm inspired. Maybe I just I

1658
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:35,599
need to get out and start start golfing

1659
01:04:35,599 --> 01:04:37,520
again. [laughter]

1660
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:38,160
>> There we go.

1661
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,440
>> Well, now you'll have GPS to help.

1662
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,440
>> Hold on a second. Cash. Well, if you

1663
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:45,680
could GPS golf balls because so often

1664
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:47,200
I'm driving down square lake and the

1665
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,760
balls are shooting at me at my car. But

1666
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,440
we'll work on that. Right.

1667
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:52,720
>> Yeah. Got over to help.

1668
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:54,400
>> And just to brag about a Troy resident,

1669
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,319
um Troy firefighter Brad Williams, an

1670
01:04:56,319 --> 01:04:58,079
old friend of mine, he got a hole in one

1671
01:04:58,079 --> 01:05:01,520
on uh hole seven at Silven Glenn. So, a

1672
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,200
couple years ago. So, hey, very

1673
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:04,319
exciting.

1674
01:05:04,319 --> 01:05:05,440
>> Anything?

1675
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,119
>> No. [laughter]

1676
01:05:07,119 --> 01:05:08,720
>> No one said it all. Excited.

1677
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,359
>> It's exciting. Oh, my computer. Uh the

1678
01:05:11,359 --> 01:05:13,520
vote was six. Council member Gun.

1679
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:13,839
>> Yes.

1680
01:05:13,839 --> 01:05:14,799
>> Council member Hamilton,

1681
01:05:14,799 --> 01:05:15,119
>> yes.

1682
01:05:15,119 --> 01:05:16,000
>> Mayor Baker,

1683
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:16,640
>> uh, yeah.

1684
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:17,599
>> Council member Brooks,

1685
01:05:17,599 --> 01:05:18,000
>> yes.

1686
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:19,680
>> Council member Chamberlain,

1687
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:21,680
>> yes.

1688
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,480
>> Still feels motion carries. [laughter]

1689
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,079
>> All right. Thank you. Good to see you,

1690
01:05:26,079 --> 01:05:26,720
Trent.

1691
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:27,200
>> Thank you.

1692
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,000
>> Uh, next up, I5 fiscal year 2026 budget

1693
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:31,760
amendments. That'll be introduced by Rob

1694
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,319
Malik, our chief financial officer.

1695
01:05:34,319 --> 01:05:36,480
>> Good evening, council mayor. Um, nice to

1696
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:40,000
be with you guys again. This is the 2026

1697
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,720
final week and we have an amendment as

1698
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,799
we always do and so we're asking you to

1699
01:05:44,799 --> 01:05:47,359
approve the budget amendment for the end

1700
01:05:47,359 --> 01:05:50,400
of the fiscal year 2026. What's in there

1701
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,200
this year are items mainly that you know

1702
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:56,319
about in the general fund. We had the uh

1703
01:05:56,319 --> 01:05:58,000
settlement of the lawsuit with the

1704
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,079
homebuilders case that settled. So

1705
01:06:00,079 --> 01:06:03,200
that's 625,000 of the budget amendment.

1706
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,640
The other $250,000 is in the recreation

1707
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,520
area and it's primarily for TFAC which

1708
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:11,280
you're well aware of. Um some of the

1709
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,920
costs we've had over there including

1710
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,960
water costs, some electrical work done

1711
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,119
in the banquet center and a few other

1712
01:06:19,119 --> 01:06:21,760
smaller items in recreation. So that's

1713
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,559
um $875,000

1714
01:06:24,559 --> 01:06:27,359
for the general fund. Then we also have

1715
01:06:27,359 --> 01:06:30,160
for CDBG we have some additional U bowl

1716
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,480
and park costs that will be 100%

1717
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,319
reimbured. And I should back up to the

1718
01:06:34,319 --> 01:06:36,720
general fund we found offsetting

1719
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:38,319
revenue. So there's nothing coming out

1720
01:06:38,319 --> 01:06:40,079
of our fund balance and that those

1721
01:06:40,079 --> 01:06:44,000
revenues would be um for our LCSA which

1722
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,319
is our local community stabilization

1723
01:06:46,319 --> 01:06:48,400
authority payment. Each year we have

1724
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,000
more we got more money in from the state

1725
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,400
that we than what we budgeted and also

1726
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,119
we have um another good year with the

1727
01:06:55,119 --> 01:06:57,520
interest rate favorable interest rates.

1728
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,680
So that's also going to offset the

1729
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,559
additional expenditures. CDBG is for

1730
01:07:02,559 --> 01:07:04,319
Bolan Park and again that's going to be

1731
01:07:04,319 --> 01:07:07,920
100% reimbured by the feds. And lastly,

1732
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:09,839
we have $10,000.

1733
01:07:09,839 --> 01:07:12,480
And we had more um snow removal this

1734
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,079
year than we did in the uh than we

1735
01:07:14,079 --> 01:07:16,079
budgeted, and we'll be getting that

1736
01:07:16,079 --> 01:07:19,280
money from Amtrak. So, um again, all

1737
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,599
these will be covered by revenue, but we

1738
01:07:21,599 --> 01:07:24,559
need these um passed by council. So, we

1739
01:07:24,559 --> 01:07:27,200
um are in compliance of the budget,

1740
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,680
state budget law. Any questions?

1741
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:30,720
>> Thank you. Any questions? Council member

1742
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:31,200
Hamilton,

1743
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,440
>> just a comment. A happy fiscal new year

1744
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:33,920
on

1745
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:35,839
>> Thank you. Yeah. Can't wait to celebrate

1746
01:07:35,839 --> 01:07:38,559
with an audit.

1747
01:07:38,559 --> 01:07:41,119
>> Any other questions?

1748
01:07:41,119 --> 01:07:44,319
>> Uh, I'll move I5 fiscal year 2026 budget

1749
01:07:44,319 --> 01:07:45,599
amendments as printed in the agenda

1750
01:07:45,599 --> 01:07:46,079
packet.

1751
01:07:46,079 --> 01:07:46,480
>> Support.

1752
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:47,680
>> Moved by chair, supported by council

1753
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:49,359
member Gun that we approve I5 fiscal

1754
01:07:49,359 --> 01:07:51,680
year 2026 budget amendments as printed

1755
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:55,119
in the agenda packet. Any discussion?

1756
01:07:55,119 --> 01:07:56,880
Just thankful to see the offsets and

1757
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,559
that although there's increases here,

1758
01:07:58,559 --> 01:08:00,880
they're being covered by existing funds

1759
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:02,799
essentially. So, thank you. Vote, Miss

1760
01:08:02,799 --> 01:08:03,359
Dixon.

1761
01:08:03,359 --> 01:08:04,720
>> Council member Hamilton. Yes.

1762
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:05,520
>> Mayor Baker.

1763
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:05,920
>> Yes.

1764
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:06,799
>> Council member Brooks.

1765
01:08:06,799 --> 01:08:07,119
>> Yes.

1766
01:08:07,119 --> 01:08:08,400
>> Council member Chamberlain.

1767
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:08,720
>> Yes.

1768
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:09,599
>> Council member Gun.

1769
01:08:09,599 --> 01:08:10,880
>> Yes. Motion carries.

1770
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:11,760
>> Thank you, Mayor and Council.

1771
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:13,119
>> Thanks, Rob. That concludes regular

1772
01:08:13,119 --> 01:08:15,039
business. Next up is the consent agenda,

1773
01:08:15,039 --> 01:08:18,080
including the late submitt of J2B.

1774
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:19,839
Anyone like to move an item remove an

1775
01:08:19,839 --> 01:08:21,440
item from the consent agenda for further

1776
01:08:21,440 --> 01:08:23,359
discussion? Council member Hamilton.

1777
01:08:23,359 --> 01:08:25,120
>> I'd like to move all items on on the

1778
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,199
consent agenda as printed in the agenda

1779
01:08:27,199 --> 01:08:30,640
packet, including the J2B uh late middle

1780
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:32,239
>> support. Moved by Council Member

1781
01:08:32,239 --> 01:08:33,440
Hamilton, supported by Council Member

1782
01:08:33,440 --> 01:08:35,440
Brooks, that we approve all items on the

1783
01:08:35,440 --> 01:08:37,120
consent agenda, including the late

1784
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,920
submitt of J2B.

1785
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,880
Um, did I say as the rest printed in the

1786
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,159
agenda packet? I don't know if I did.

1787
01:08:44,159 --> 01:08:46,319
I'm repeating myself. Uh, any

1788
01:08:46,319 --> 01:08:48,799
discussion? Council member Chamberlain.

1789
01:08:48,799 --> 01:08:50,400
>> Thank you, Mayor. Um I did want to call

1790
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:54,080
out I believe it's J5 um that is from

1791
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,520
Clerk Dixon her office um requesting we

1792
01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:59,920
always need to do that a satellite um

1793
01:08:59,920 --> 01:09:03,759
office and then it also lists the um

1794
01:09:03,759 --> 01:09:06,239
various kind of sequence of you know

1795
01:09:06,239 --> 01:09:07,520
everything you're doing with elections

1796
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,759
coming up with our our primary election

1797
01:09:09,759 --> 01:09:11,120
coming up and then of course with the

1798
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:12,880
general election and I'm sure my

1799
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:14,719
colleagues may ask you to go over some

1800
01:09:14,719 --> 01:09:16,400
of that but wanted to call out to

1801
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:19,600
residents you can find all of that um

1802
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,560
when absentee ballots are are available

1803
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:24,560
um and early voting and all that.

1804
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,319
There's a nice list of the dates there.

1805
01:09:26,319 --> 01:09:29,040
Um I did want to ask maybe I missed it

1806
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,759
here. Do we need to um does this cover

1807
01:09:31,759 --> 01:09:34,000
also the general clerk Dixon or do we

1808
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:35,600
also have to prove the satellite office

1809
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:37,839
for the um the general election?

1810
01:09:37,839 --> 01:09:40,000
>> Um we'll bring it back to you for the

1811
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:42,000
general just to have another recap with

1812
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:43,600
all of the dates and everything for the

1813
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,679
November election. Um it's always a good

1814
01:09:45,679 --> 01:09:47,600
idea to bring that back. So, it's a good

1815
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:48,640
excuse to do that.

1816
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,440
>> Excellent. Thank you.

1817
01:09:51,440 --> 01:09:52,960
>> Any further discussion?

1818
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:54,080
>> Vote. Miss Dixon.

1819
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:54,960
>> Mayor Baker.

1820
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:55,440
>> Yes.

1821
01:09:55,440 --> 01:09:56,480
>> Council member Brooks.

1822
01:09:56,480 --> 01:09:56,719
>> Yes.

1823
01:09:56,719 --> 01:09:58,080
>> Council member Chamberlain.

1824
01:09:58,080 --> 01:09:58,400
>> Yes.

1825
01:09:58,400 --> 01:09:59,360
>> Council member Gun.

1826
01:09:59,360 --> 01:09:59,679
>> Yes.

1827
01:09:59,679 --> 01:10:00,719
>> Council member Hamilton.

1828
01:10:00,719 --> 01:10:02,400
>> Yes. Motion carries. If you're here for

1829
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:03,920
an item on the consent agenda, all have

1830
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:05,760
been approved.

1831
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,800
>> Uh, there are no memorandums. Excuse me.

1832
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,000
There are no memorandums in future

1833
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,000
council agenda items this evening.

1834
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,600
Nobody has signed up for public comment

1835
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,280
for items not on the agenda from Troy

1836
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:16,880
residents and businesses. So, no need

1837
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,679
for reply. There is no or there are no

1838
01:10:19,679 --> 01:10:21,840
council referrals this evening. Anyone

1839
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,320
like to make any comments on any of the

1840
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,640
reports? Council member Chamberlain.

1841
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,239
>> Thank you, Mayor. So, I'd like to

1842
01:10:28,239 --> 01:10:30,480
comment on

1843
01:10:30,480 --> 01:10:35,040
O2A, the Rochester Road widening. Um, in

1844
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:38,960
it, talks about the delays. I believe

1845
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,520
it's um six months if that's correct.

1846
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:45,440
and a couple of options. Um, we're

1847
01:10:45,440 --> 01:10:47,760
trying to work, it sounds like, with the

1848
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,520
contractor to either get additional

1849
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,600
support in to be able to complete this

1850
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,239
as soon as possible or there's a

1851
01:10:54,239 --> 01:10:57,440
potential to move into the next

1852
01:10:57,440 --> 01:10:59,520
construction year because um, mid-

1853
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:02,080
November all construction uh, basically

1854
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,080
ceases because uh, it gets so cold in

1855
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:05,600
Michigan.

1856
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,760
and they try to limit the impact of

1857
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,480
course on um you know on businesses in

1858
01:11:10,480 --> 01:11:14,080
the area. I went out there last week. It

1859
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,320
just um I hadn't really you know had a

1860
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:17,920
chance to go out and and talk with

1861
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:20,239
businesses to see how folks are doing

1862
01:11:20,239 --> 01:11:23,280
but um businesses are impacted. Um I

1863
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:26,000
went into one small business and they

1864
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:27,920
said dining is it's non-existent right

1865
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,800
now for them. Another one, the Matcha

1866
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:32,960
Michael Cafe, they're doing okay. They

1867
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:36,159
have a very loyal base. um the gentleman

1868
01:11:36,159 --> 01:11:38,159
said and you know he feels very grateful

1869
01:11:38,159 --> 01:11:40,960
for that but Jets Pizza for example also

1870
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,360
they've seen a a pretty significant um

1871
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:47,199
decline. So in my mind if there is a way

1872
01:11:47,199 --> 01:11:50,719
to move um you know sooner the better to

1873
01:11:50,719 --> 01:11:53,199
lessen the impact on businesses. My

1874
01:11:53,199 --> 01:11:55,040
understanding and maybe this could be

1875
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:56,719
summarized is the holdup is with the

1876
01:11:56,719 --> 01:12:00,000
utilities that this project um is not

1877
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,800
just us widening but there are private

1878
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:04,960
utility companies that are um do like

1879
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,679
what from wow to um you know internet I

1880
01:12:07,679 --> 01:12:10,560
use wow service um others doing fiber

1881
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,360
optics and the coordination and and some

1882
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:14,880
of them they've been slow moving and

1883
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:16,159
they're holding up the project that's

1884
01:12:16,159 --> 01:12:17,760
some of what I read in this memo and

1885
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,239
maybe we can get a clarification on that

1886
01:12:20,239 --> 01:12:23,360
but um just the question I would ask

1887
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,520
with that is how likely between those

1888
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:28,000
two scenarios from what I recall in the

1889
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:29,920
memo there's kind of two options where

1890
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,080
we what do we think is going to happen

1891
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:33,600
and then I think the second thing is

1892
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,600
regardless

1893
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,440
could we do is there anything on the

1894
01:12:37,440 --> 01:12:38,800
city side we could do to have more

1895
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,199
signage so I've noticed going into those

1896
01:12:41,199 --> 01:12:43,040
entryways

1897
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:45,840
they're very tiny and you almost don't

1898
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,320
think it is an entryway and um it

1899
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,000
becomes complicated as someone's trying

1900
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,880
to um exit and and enter at the same

1901
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,840
time and you know could there be um

1902
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:57,840
whether the contractors put something up

1903
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,520
or just to be kind of clear um and then

1904
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,440
I don't know what is precedent for a

1905
01:13:03,440 --> 01:13:05,040
city or whether that's working with the

1906
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:06,719
chamber of commerce to have like open

1907
01:13:06,719 --> 01:13:08,800
for business signs to be very clear to

1908
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,040
people that um or to drive people

1909
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:12,640
driving by that you know these business

1910
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:16,719
they are open they are open um and you

1911
01:13:16,719 --> 01:13:18,560
know what we could do and even social

1912
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:20,560
media um again maybe this is a

1913
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,400
collaboration with the chamber And I I

1914
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:23,520
would look to you, mayor, because you're

1915
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:25,679
so heavily involved with the chamber,

1916
01:13:25,679 --> 01:13:27,920
something we can do to highlight um and

1917
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,000
just emphasize that, you know, open for

1918
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,159
business and really have a shop

1919
01:13:32,159 --> 01:13:35,679
Rochester kind of um emphasis. So, a lot

1920
01:13:35,679 --> 01:13:37,360
of questions I put out there from

1921
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:40,800
economic development to um to actual to

1922
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:42,480
the construction kind of engineering

1923
01:13:42,480 --> 01:13:44,480
thing. So, like to hear more if

1924
01:13:44,480 --> 01:13:45,760
possible.

1925
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:47,120
>> Yeah. Can I ask actually a follow-up

1926
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:48,719
question to that along along these

1927
01:13:48,719 --> 01:13:49,920
lines? I mean the memo is very clear

1928
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:51,199
that there's some options that are

1929
01:13:51,199 --> 01:13:55,430
looked at. It [clears throat]

1930
01:13:55,440 --> 01:13:57,440
what would it take to work on

1931
01:13:57,440 --> 01:14:00,239
accelerating this or I mean we can't

1932
01:14:00,239 --> 01:14:02,000
funding's one thing, private utility

1933
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:03,600
companies are one thing. Is there is

1934
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:07,520
there something we can do to help um and

1935
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:08,480
what does that look like?

1936
01:14:08,480 --> 01:14:10,960
>> Well, there's a lot of questions you ask

1937
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,440
different things. So um as far as um

1938
01:14:13,440 --> 01:14:15,679
work on signage, of course we can look

1939
01:14:15,679 --> 01:14:18,560
at that. look at what options we have.

1940
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:19,600
Of course, we want to help the

1941
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:23,280
businesses um the best we can. Um any

1942
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,360
future closures, I've had discussions

1943
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:27,280
with staff. We're going to do some hand

1944
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:29,840
deliveries and and make sure we reach

1945
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,560
out to individual b businesses to give

1946
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,440
them as much leeway as possible and make

1947
01:14:35,440 --> 01:14:37,600
sure it's communicated out to them. But

1948
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,760
as far as the options that came from

1949
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,560
HRC, I know we have our city engineer

1950
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,880
Scott Finley here. I'd ask him to come

1951
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,360
up real quick and maybe um answer a

1952
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:57,590
little bit more on the options portion.

1953
01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:59,840
» Good evening, Mayor Council.

1954
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:02,640
Um yeah, I mean our biggest hold up to

1955
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:04,960
start with with DTE. They have to move

1956
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:06,960
all the poles and move first and they

1957
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:09,280
kind of move from top down. they were

1958
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:12,080
the biggest hold up that kind of domino

1959
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:13,920
effect on all the other utilities. I

1960
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:16,159
mean currently right now Comcast is the

1961
01:15:16,159 --> 01:15:19,280
hold up uh they don't want to cut their

1962
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:22,239
they have a limited window nationwide

1963
01:15:22,239 --> 01:15:24,000
policy right now because the World Cup's

1964
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:25,040
going on

1965
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,600
>> to put people out of service. So they

1966
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,360
need to do fiber transfers before they

1967
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:31,520
can move off the poles moving the poles

1968
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:32,960
out of the way that are in where the

1969
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:36,320
roadway is going to go. So,

1970
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,320
we don't have a clear schedule yet as to

1971
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:39,760
when all the utilities are going to be

1972
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:41,520
clear.

1973
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,000
We're pushing and hoping that it'll be

1974
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:47,040
by the end of July. And at that time, we

1975
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:48,560
can sit down with Dan and they can

1976
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:50,560
actually lay out a schedule as to what

1977
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,400
it's going to take to complete this

1978
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:55,679
project by mid November or what kind of

1979
01:15:55,679 --> 01:15:57,600
shape can we get it in by no mid

1980
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:00,000
November and extend a few things over to

1981
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,560
next season. So until we have a good

1982
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:05,120
date from the utilities, you know, we

1983
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:07,760
can't really work, you know, we have an

1984
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,480
idea, but we need that util a clear date

1985
01:16:10,480 --> 01:16:14,239
from utilities is being moved. Um, you

1986
01:16:14,239 --> 01:16:16,960
know, accelerating the the project is

1987
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,760
not a federally funded thing. So that

1988
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,159
would be a city expense. If we want them

1989
01:16:22,159 --> 01:16:24,000
to work 12 hours a day, if we want them

1990
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:25,920
to bring in 100 more people and get this

1991
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:28,960
done, those extra costs would be 100%

1992
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,440
the city's responsibility.

1993
01:16:31,440 --> 01:16:33,520
the federal tax dollars pay for the road

1994
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:35,520
improvements. They don't pay for the

1995
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,159
utility delays and then us incentivizing

1996
01:16:38,159 --> 01:16:41,040
the contractor to get get it done on

1997
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:42,640
time.

1998
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:44,640
So,

1999
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:46,560
we're just trying to forewarn council

2000
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:48,400
that, you know, come about September, we

2001
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:49,920
might have some of these decisions to

2002
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:51,440
make.

2003
01:16:51,440 --> 01:16:53,840
Uh Dan's, you know, the contractor's

2004
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,159
original schedule, all of the northbound

2005
01:16:56,159 --> 01:16:58,480
lanes should have been done June 1st. We

2006
01:16:58,480 --> 01:17:00,400
should be working on the southbound side

2007
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,560
right now. Now, looking at their

2008
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,040
schedule, it's laid out from one day to

2009
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,360
the end through November. Are there

2010
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:09,440
opportunities where we can do things

2011
01:17:09,440 --> 01:17:10,960
concurrent? Like, you know, the other

2012
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:12,560
the guy was talking. Yeah, there's going

2013
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:14,159
to be some opportunities that we think

2014
01:17:14,159 --> 01:17:17,040
we can pick up a few weeks, but a few

2015
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,120
weeks in in November, you don't get as

2016
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:21,760
much daylight. It takes longer to cure.

2017
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,800
So, we might not make as much progress,

2018
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:28,960
but every day will help.

2019
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:30,239
While I have you there, what's the

2020
01:17:30,239 --> 01:17:31,920
update on the Long Lake and Rochester

2021
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:33,920
Road closure? Any Are we on schedule

2022
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:34,400
with that?

2023
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:36,159
>> We We're currently on schedule for that

2024
01:17:36,159 --> 01:17:38,080
one. So, that one's scheduled for 3-week

2025
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:40,080
closure and we are on schedule to meet

2026
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:40,800
that.

2027
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,280
>> Okay. Council member G.

2028
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:49,440
>> Um to my comment top of Rebecca's is if there can't be any additional social

2029
01:17:49,440 --> 01:17:52,880
media or any more marketing because yeah

2030
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:54,719
the signs are good but a lot of people

2031
01:17:54,719 --> 01:17:56,320
are avoiding Rochester road because of

2032
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:58,400
the obvious congestion. I've already

2033
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:01,679
seen McV's closed non closed. Uh El

2034
01:18:01,679 --> 01:18:03,600
Gaster I'm sure there's going to be more

2035
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:05,199
that follow because people just aren't

2036
01:18:05,199 --> 01:18:07,920
using the road you know. So we can see a

2037
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,960
glut of uh closed down businesses.

2038
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:13,040
I agree.

2039
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:13,520
>> Books

2040
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:14,800
>> and I would just add, you know, like

2041
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:16,960
Gillies is there as well, ice cream, and

2042
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:19,600
I felt bad. They put a a post on social

2043
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,080
media and they're seasonal. So, their

2044
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,320
high season is right now. And so,

2045
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:25,840
without them having the business right

2046
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:27,520
now, that makes it very very difficult

2047
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:28,800
for them throughout the rest of the

2048
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:31,600
year. So, I just I really really am

2049
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,199
concerned about the businesses in

2050
01:18:33,199 --> 01:18:37,030
general in that area.

2051
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:37,520
» Chamber,

2052
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:39,120
>> just a follow-up question. um city

2053
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,280
engineer uh Finley

2054
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:43,600
in terms of the decision-m I understand

2055
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:45,199
that's a lot of an administrative

2056
01:18:45,199 --> 01:18:48,480
decision is there to decide if if there

2057
01:18:48,480 --> 01:18:50,640
is you know the budget to be able to

2058
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:52,239
expedite and if it makes sense with

2059
01:18:52,239 --> 01:18:54,640
timing it sounds like it could be that

2060
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,280
even if we tried that we still might run

2061
01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:59,120
into a time where the roads aren't going

2062
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:02,000
to cure in the way that we need them to

2063
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:03,679
is there a way for us to be kept in the

2064
01:19:03,679 --> 01:19:05,520
loop to be able at some point when you

2065
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:07,920
know more whether it's through a Q&A um

2066
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,159
is just on a weekly update to just so

2067
01:19:10,159 --> 01:19:13,280
we're a breast of things and um in you

2068
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,360
know in the know of what all you guys

2069
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,360
are learning with this.

2070
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:18,880
>> Yeah, I think that's fair enough. We

2071
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,040
have bi-weekly progress meetings on

2072
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,440
Wednesday. So I think the timing you

2073
01:19:23,440 --> 01:19:25,520
know when we get that update moving

2074
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,520
forward because you know there may be

2075
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:29,440
some significant decisions for you to

2076
01:19:29,440 --> 01:19:31,280
make you know and that's why we wanted

2077
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:33,120
to come out now and kind of give you an

2078
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:36,159
update that there should some things to

2079
01:19:36,159 --> 01:19:38,800
think about. So I we'll make a note and

2080
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:40,960
after our progress meeting I'll send

2081
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:42,560
something the city manager to send out

2082
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:45,120
in the Q&A every two weeks.

2083
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:46,640
>> Thank you.

2084
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:48,880
>> I think the other component so

2085
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,520
>> we we will we can talk to the chamber

2086
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:55,760
too about my originally their their

2087
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,239
thought was well we only promote chamber

2088
01:19:58,239 --> 01:20:00,400
businesses which I understand that

2089
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:02,159
concept. I made the counter argument,

2090
01:20:02,159 --> 01:20:04,560
well, your chamber businesses will do

2091
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:06,400
better if all city businesses are also

2092
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:07,920
doing well. It kind of works across the

2093
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:09,199
board. So, I think we can work a little

2094
01:20:09,199 --> 01:20:11,120
bit with that. My my other concern

2095
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,679
obviously is

2096
01:20:13,679 --> 01:20:15,600
I've been telling people for as long as

2097
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:17,840
I could that it'll be primarily done by

2098
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:19,199
November. So, don't worry if we get

2099
01:20:19,199 --> 01:20:20,960
through this year and this businesses,

2100
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:24,800
residents. Um, and I I don't think it's

2101
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:28,880
just about social media. Um, and it can

2102
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:30,239
be, but I I want to make sure the

2103
01:20:30,239 --> 01:20:32,159
businesses in the area understand if

2104
01:20:32,159 --> 01:20:34,560
there is when we know that things are

2105
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:36,239
not like or even now we should probably

2106
01:20:36,239 --> 01:20:37,600
be talking to them about there's a

2107
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:38,960
chance. I mean, we're doing it publicly

2108
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:40,560
right now, but you know, I I want I

2109
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:42,560
don't want any surprises in the fall for

2110
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:44,239
the business community or residents

2111
01:20:44,239 --> 01:20:46,480
along that area to learn that it's a

2112
01:20:46,480 --> 01:20:48,080
whole another season. They're going to

2113
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,480
have to deal with this. So, um, that's

2114
01:20:50,480 --> 01:20:53,199
not a Scott Finley comment so much in as

2115
01:20:53,199 --> 01:20:54,880
much as city management, but

2116
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:56,560
>> I think the second season if it does

2117
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:59,440
push over, I we'd have two lanes

2118
01:20:59,440 --> 01:21:02,239
completed on the southbound side and all

2119
01:21:02,239 --> 01:21:03,840
the side street approaches and the

2120
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:05,440
businesses. So, you know, the access

2121
01:21:05,440 --> 01:21:06,480
would be

2122
01:21:06,480 --> 01:21:09,920
>> a lot easier. Your your left lane and

2123
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,880
the turnarounds would be the part that

2124
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:14,960
are going to be iffy.

2125
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:16,640
>> Okay. Still though,

2126
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:16,960
>> yeah,

2127
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:18,640
>> I hate to have it also look like a war

2128
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:19,920
zone through all of winter. I think

2129
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:21,520
that's the other

2130
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:23,600
>> It's not looking great right now as it

2131
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:26,480
is um as you drive through, but uh any

2132
01:21:26,480 --> 01:21:31,030
other comments?

2133
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:32,320
» I can't remember where we are. Here we

2134
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:34,719
are. Okay. Uh and no other comments on

2135
01:21:34,719 --> 01:21:37,840
any of the other reports.

2136
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:39,440
>> How about council comments? I won't skip

2137
01:21:39,440 --> 01:21:41,360
those this week. Council Hamilton,

2138
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:44,239
>> um congrats to the Troy Cowboys for 70

2139
01:21:44,239 --> 01:21:45,600
years. It's hard to believe they've been

2140
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:48,320
around that long. I growing up they were

2141
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:50,080
always here. I think one or two of my

2142
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,800
nephews were on them for a while. Um I

2143
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:54,800
just asked them, can they train some

2144
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:56,800
Lions defensive backs cuz they really

2145
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,920
need them badly. Um so anyway, um but

2146
01:21:59,920 --> 01:22:02,480
also I have some amazing personal news

2147
01:22:02,480 --> 01:22:06,000
to share. Um couple weeks ago was at

2148
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:08,000
work and got a call from my wife that

2149
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,080
she found out that our foster daughter

2150
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:14,080
Kiki um her adoption was finalized. And

2151
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:16,480
so, you know, my family is now complete

2152
01:22:16,480 --> 01:22:19,520
and that's done. And it it was an

2153
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:21,920
amazing thing. It felt like the day my

2154
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,080
do first daughter was born. So, it it's

2155
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:25,679
a great news to share and we're going to

2156
01:22:25,679 --> 01:22:27,440
Disney World in 3 weeks to celebrate.

2157
01:22:27,440 --> 01:22:28,239
So,

2158
01:22:28,239 --> 01:22:31,440
>> I'll have to won the Super Bowl.

2159
01:22:31,440 --> 01:22:33,120
>> I'll have to remote into that council

2160
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:34,719
meeting, but it's for a good purpose

2161
01:22:34,719 --> 01:22:36,480
because Yeah.

2162
01:22:36,480 --> 01:22:40,639
>> Very good. Congratulations, David. That is good news. I know it's a long

2163
01:22:40,639 --> 01:22:42,560
process, long history. So, Oh, yeah.

2164
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:44,000
Well deserved.

2165
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:45,360
>> Additional council comments. Council

2166
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:46,000
gun.

2167
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,159
>> Um well, first just to kind of

2168
01:22:48,159 --> 01:22:51,199
reiterate, remember our 250 celebration

2169
01:22:51,199 --> 01:22:53,360
Wednesday is moving inside Detroit

2170
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:55,360
Community Center. So hopefully we get a

2171
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:57,920
big attendance for that. Um I

2172
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:00,800
congratulations Dave. That's good news.

2173
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,760
Um I just also I want to call out Frank

2174
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,880
and your staff. I know we bombard you. I

2175
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:08,800
see all the questions. I get them. We

2176
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,120
all get them. We get them to you guys.

2177
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:14,080
And I appreciate you being regular about

2178
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:15,440
getting information so we can get it

2179
01:23:15,440 --> 01:23:17,840
back to the citizens because it's a lot

2180
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:19,840
of stuff that comes at us and uh I

2181
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:22,719
really appreciate that. I also want to

2182
01:23:22,719 --> 01:23:24,639
recognize as you know Fourth of July

2183
01:23:24,639 --> 01:23:27,360
this is a big one for all of us. Um I'm

2184
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:30,000
very thankful to to live in Troy and and

2185
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,400
all the diversity we have and that I

2186
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:34,480
hope everybody has a very safe 4th of

2187
01:23:34,480 --> 01:23:37,440
July. I want to thank uh I know the

2188
01:23:37,440 --> 01:23:39,199
police, fire, public works are all going

2189
01:23:39,199 --> 01:23:40,560
to be working extra hard to make sure

2190
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:44,239
we're all enjoying a safe holiday and u

2191
01:23:44,239 --> 01:23:47,360
just very thankful to be an American and

2192
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:49,520
I say that as a Native American. Okay.

2193
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:53,040
So [laughter] very thankful. So hope you

2194
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:54,400
all have a good Fourth of July.

2195
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:56,880
>> You too

2196
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:57,520
Chamberlain.

2197
01:23:57,520 --> 01:23:59,120
>> Thank you, Mayor. Um and

2198
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:01,679
congratulations, Dave. Uh and and to

2199
01:24:01,679 --> 01:24:02,960
follow what you just shared, Council

2200
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:06,320
Member Gun. Um, happy happy 250th

2201
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:09,120
birthday to America. And I always say

2202
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,520
that the heart of America, it's really

2203
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:13,120
it's in our communities, it's our

2204
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:15,040
cities, it's our towns, it's our

2205
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,600
villages, it's here in Troy. So, I do

2206
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,239
hope folks will join us um Wednesday. I

2207
01:24:20,239 --> 01:24:21,440
was going to say tomorrow, but that's

2208
01:24:21,440 --> 01:24:24,639
Wednesday inside 5:30 p.m. Mayor, right?

2209
01:24:24,639 --> 01:24:26,480
And there's cake. There's cake for the

2210
01:24:26,480 --> 01:24:29,600
community. So, it's that's beautiful. If

2211
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:31,760
anything, yeah, come come out. Um but

2212
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:33,760
it's a very it's it's special on many

2213
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:36,560
levels. Um I have an ancestor who fought

2214
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:38,239
in the American Revolution who fought

2215
01:24:38,239 --> 01:24:41,040
for our freedom. Phoeni.

2216
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:46,159
So um it's it's something that is uh is near and dear to my to my family. We

2217
01:24:46,159 --> 01:24:49,120
don't take uh freedom for granted. Also

2218
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:52,000
want to remember um fireworks safety. So

2219
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:53,440
think I want to thank the city for

2220
01:24:53,440 --> 01:24:55,440
putting out some posts in advance. It's

2221
01:24:55,440 --> 01:24:57,840
a reminder that you can only use

2222
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,800
fireworks what is it from June 29th. um

2223
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:05,360
to July to July 4th um 11:45 p.m. And a

2224
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:08,239
fun fact, no public places. So that

2225
01:25:08,239 --> 01:25:11,040
means sidewalks and streets. And I was

2226
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:12,719
thinking where do I where where does my

2227
01:25:12,719 --> 01:25:15,120
family sometimes do some little poppers

2228
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:17,280
and and such. So it's a reminder no

2229
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:21,199
public spaces. Um and just to be mindful

2230
01:25:21,199 --> 01:25:24,080
to be safe. Sadly, every year there is

2231
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:28,159
an un um sadly unwarranted, un tragedy,

2232
01:25:28,159 --> 01:25:31,120
um a loss of life, an injury due to

2233
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,360
unsafe um use of artwork. So, just

2234
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:36,000
encourage every folks celebrate, but um

2235
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,159
do so safely. And again, happy birthday,

2236
01:25:38,159 --> 01:25:40,639
America.

2237
01:25:40,639 --> 01:25:41,520
>> Council member Brooks.

2238
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:43,840
>> Thank you, Mayor. Um I also just wanted

2239
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:45,600
to say um I'm looking forward to the

2240
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:47,840
America 250 celebration that we will be

2241
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:50,320
having here in Troy as well. Um, and I

2242
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:52,000
think it's great that we also get to

2243
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:53,920
enjoy the farmers market and the summer

2244
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:56,320
concert series all on the same day.

2245
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:58,239
Unfortunately, you know, the weather is

2246
01:25:58,239 --> 01:25:59,760
not going to be cooperative, but it's

2247
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:01,679
it'll still be a wonderful celebration

2248
01:26:01,679 --> 01:26:04,000
and a really gathering for our

2249
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:05,440
community. That'll be really really

2250
01:26:05,440 --> 01:26:08,080
beautiful. Um, the other thing I wanted

2251
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:11,440
to point out is the Troy Garden Club is

2252
01:26:11,440 --> 01:26:14,239
having their 51st annual garden walk

2253
01:26:14,239 --> 01:26:17,520
that will be on Wednesday, July 8th. Um,

2254
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:19,440
you can get tickets online or at the

2255
01:26:19,440 --> 01:26:21,120
Troy Historic Village. And this is

2256
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:23,040
always a beautiful event where people

2257
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:24,880
open up their homes where they have

2258
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:26,320
beautiful gardens and you kind of just

2259
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:28,480
walk around and you can observe and and

2260
01:26:28,480 --> 01:26:30,719
enjoy that. Um, so that's a wonderful

2261
01:26:30,719 --> 01:26:33,840
event that happens every year. And same

2262
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:35,840
thing, happy 4th of July everybody. This

2263
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:38,719
is a very special year for our country

2264
01:26:38,719 --> 01:26:41,520
and I hope everyone is safe and and

2265
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:43,280
enjoys it. So thank you.

2266
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:46,320
>> Thank you. I uh

2267
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:48,560
I often wonder what if I would be the

2268
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:50,320
opposite of a Troy garden club, try and

2269
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:52,000
walk the worst looking yard. I thought

2270
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:54,719
that would be a kind of Stop laughing,

2271
01:26:54,719 --> 01:26:56,800
Kurt. [laughter]

2272
01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:00,960
But uh you know the I wasn't um I'll be

2273
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:05,280
47 this year, so I wasn't born when the bsentennial happened in 1976, but

2274
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:06,960
like I've seen all this amazing footage

2275
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:09,600
and I think

2276
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:11,520
like this is a big deal. we celebrate

2277
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:13,440
these and you know whatever you feel

2278
01:27:13,440 --> 01:27:16,159
about the state of politics or the state

2279
01:27:16,159 --> 01:27:20,320
of some of our leaders on all sides um

2280
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:22,000
you know we're here in America and we

2281
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:24,560
are celebrating something it is very

2282
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:27,199
unique there won't be like I mean I

2283
01:27:27,199 --> 01:27:29,760
could most of us probably won't make it

2284
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:32,000
to the 300 right [laughter] so you know

2285
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:33,760
these are these are big monumental times

2286
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:35,199
and I think it's important that we take

2287
01:27:35,199 --> 01:27:38,960
time to recognize um what we do have in

2288
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:40,880
common and what we do share in this

2289
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:42,480
country um and certainly here in the

2290
01:27:42,480 --> 01:27:46,480
city of Troy. Um I'm very proud of our

2291
01:27:46,480 --> 01:27:48,320
city and the community members that we

2292
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,400
have here because I continue to hear and

2293
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:52,320
see so much of the good that happens um

2294
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:53,679
in America right here at the city of

2295
01:27:53,679 --> 01:27:57,440
Troy. So um I'm totally disappointed

2296
01:27:57,440 --> 01:27:59,120
that we're moving the event indoors on

2297
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,840
Wednesday night, but it's uh better to

2298
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:03,920
do that than to have people passing out

2299
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:06,400
in real field temperatures of 110

2300
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:08,400
degrees. Even though I offered earlier

2301
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:13,840
to hose everybody down and see park that wasn't a popular opinion. So maybe

2302
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:15,280
just council members. We should do that

2303
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:17,199
for charity. That'd be fun.

2304
01:28:17,199 --> 01:28:18,080
>> Yeah. Right. Yeah.

2305
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:19,440
>> Yeah. They want the fire truck.

2306
01:28:19,440 --> 01:28:22,000
>> Um we we left them 250 years ago for

2307
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:25,920
that reason. So no. Um I

2308
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:29,440
celebrate. Be safe everybody. Um

2309
01:28:29,440 --> 01:28:31,199
I'm

2310
01:28:31,199 --> 01:28:33,760
be mindful of the fireworks regulations

2311
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:36,800
and laws. be mindful of. Uh not

2312
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:38,960
everybody loves loud noises outside of

2313
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:42,080
their homes um at night, whether that's

2314
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:45,360
kids or pets or um people with neurode

2315
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:48,480
divergence or just regular people who

2316
01:28:48,480 --> 01:28:50,880
are tired of it as a certain time. But

2317
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:53,199
celebrate responsibly. Um have a really

2318
01:28:53,199 --> 01:28:54,800
good time. Hope to see a lot of you

2319
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,600
Wednesday evening um at the community

2320
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:00,639
center at senior center. The um Elton

2321
01:29:00,639 --> 01:29:02,800
John tribute performance is supposed to

2322
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:05,280
be really really good. uh he's a really

2323
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:08,239
talented. So um I hope people turn out

2324
01:29:08,239 --> 01:29:09,360
for that and maybe we'll even have

2325
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:10,800
better attendance because it's indoors

2326
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:12,159
with air conditioning. That's what I'm

2327
01:29:12,159 --> 01:29:16,800
hoping for. So anyway um that's it. So

2328
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:18,800
thank you and uh we don't have anyone

2329
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:20,320
signed up for public comment for items

2330
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,000
on or not on the agenda for members of

2331
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:23,840
the public outside of Troy. We don't

2332
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:25,280
have the close session this evening so

2333
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:28,440
we're adjourned.