[2:26] Good evening. Welcome to the June 29th,
[2:27] 2026 Troy City Council meeting. Please
[2:29] rise for our invocation if you are able
[2:31] and remain standing for our pledge of
[2:32] allegiance.
[2:36] Father in heaven, we give you thanks for
[2:38] this day and thanks for the many
[2:39] blessings you've given each and every
[2:41] one of us here in the city of Troy. We
[2:43] ask that you continue to bless us
[2:44] through this beautiful summer evening
[2:46] through the halls of this city hall and
[2:49] here in our council chamber where we
[2:51] work together as a community for the
[2:53] good of our city. We ask that you be
[2:55] with our first responders, our police,
[2:57] our fire, our DPW workers, and all those
[3:00] who make this city the amazing city that
[3:02] it is. We ask that you be with those who
[3:04] are in need and maybe don't have the
[3:06] strength to ask on their own. Please
[3:08] give an extra special amount of care to
[3:10] them. Please be with all in this
[3:12] community all throughout this region and
[3:16] bless us with your peace. In his name we
[3:18] pray. Amen.
[3:22] » I aliance to the flag of the United
[3:25] States of America and to the republic
[3:28] for which it stands. One nation under
[3:31] God, indivisible, with liberty and
[3:34] justice for all.
[3:40] » I'll call the June 29th, 2026 Tri City
[3:43] Council meeting to order and ask for the
[3:44] roll call for Miss Dixon.
[3:45] >> Mayor Baker
[3:46] >> here.
[3:46] >> Council member Bloom.
[3:48] >> Council member Brooks
[3:49] >> here. Council member Chamberlain
[3:50] >> here.
[3:51] >> Mayor Promchandanda.
[3:52] >> Council member Gun
[3:54] >> here.
[3:54] >> Council member Hamilton
[3:55] >> here.
[3:56] >> We do have a quorum present. I did
[3:58] receive advanced notification that mayor
[3:59] promchand and council member Bloom would
[4:02] be unable to attend this evening city
[4:04] council meeting due to being out of the
[4:05] county. So I will move resolve that Troy
[4:08] City Council hereby excuses the absences
[4:10] of Mayor Prom Harach Chanda and council
[4:12] member Anaisa Bloom at the regular city
[4:15] council meeting of June 29th 2026 due to
[4:18] being out of the county. support.
[4:20] >> Moved by the chair, supported by council
[4:22] member Chamberlain, that we approve and
[4:23] excuse the absences of Mayor Promchand
[4:26] and Council Member Bloom for the reasons
[4:28] stated
[4:30] >> a moment ago. Any discussion?
[4:33] >> The vote, Miss Dixon.
[4:34] >> Mayor Baker,
[4:35] >> yes.
[4:36] >> Council member Brooks,
[4:37] >> yes.
[4:37] >> Council member Chamberlain,
[4:38] >> yes.
[4:38] >> Council member Gun,
[4:39] >> yes.
[4:40] >> Council member Hamilton,
[4:41] >> yes.
[4:42] >> Motion carries. Next up are certificates
[4:44] of recognition and special
[4:45] presentations. We have three this
[4:47] evening. C1 is the 2026 MAMC My
[4:51] Excellence Award for Public Outreach
[4:53] presented to marketing coordinator Kayla
[4:55] McKG. And while I come down to the
[4:57] podium, I'm going to have City Clerk
[4:58] Dixon explain a little bit about that.
[5:00] >> Thank you, Mayor. Uh the Michigan
[5:01] Association of Municipal Clerks every
[5:04] year awards MI Excellence Awards to
[5:07] municipalities um who've demonstrated
[5:09] excellence in a very variety of
[5:11] subjects. The city of Troy this year was
[5:13] awarded the MIcconsense Award for public
[5:15] outreach for our campaign um advertising
[5:18] our new precinct map that we ran all of
[5:21] last year and we're going to continue to
[5:22] run this year. It's the kind of a play
[5:24] on Finding Nemo with an under the sea
[5:26] theme and Kayla did all of the graphic
[5:29] work and did a website posters um a
[5:32] mailer that went out went out to all
[5:34] households as well as social media posts
[5:36] and it continues on and um we've gotten
[5:38] a lot of compliments and praise even
[5:40] from other municipalities for it. So,
[5:42] great job, Kayla.
[5:43] >> That's awesome. So, one of Kayla's
[5:44] favorite things to do is public
[5:46] speaking.
[5:48] >> It's not at all, but she's really good
[5:49] at public outreach with graphic work.
[5:51] So, I want to on behalf of all of us,
[5:53] Kayla, I want to say congratulations.
[5:54] This is a really great honor for you and
[5:56] for our city as a whole. Do you want to
[5:57] just give a a quick little blurb on what
[5:59] it's about and what you feel about it?
[6:01] >> Yes. Um, I just wanted to say thank you
[6:05] to Ailen Dixon for her collaboration in
[6:08] the clerk's department for their
[6:10] collaboration on the project. And I also
[6:13] wanted to thank Courtney Flynn, the
[6:15] communications director as well for her
[6:17] involvement.
[6:18] >> Awesome. See, well, here's the thing.
[6:20] So, I have no problem speaking way
[6:22] probably too much in front of people. I
[6:24] have no issue with that, but my graphic
[6:25] design work sucks. So, there's takes
[6:27] talents for everybody to get things
[6:28] done. I'm gonna I'm gonna take a picture
[6:30] with this, but we really are proud of
[6:31] you and um I know that everybody
[6:33] certainly Courtney and Ailen the people
[6:35] you mentioned really are are proud of
[6:37] the work that you've done and you're
[6:38] helping making our city shine, Kayla.
[6:39] So, thank you
[6:42] [applause]
[7:00] She really does great work and also
[7:02] hates speaking in front of public. So
[7:04] there you go. It's a great thing.
[7:05] [laughter] Um, next up, C2 is a
[7:07] proclamation to recognize the city of
[7:09] Troy parks and recreation departments
[7:11] for positively contributing to the
[7:13] health and wellness of the city. Got a
[7:15] group coming up. All right.
[7:18] Now, I am going to read this
[7:20] proclamation into the record.
[7:23] There's some good stuff in here. So, as
[7:24] I said, this is a proclamation to
[7:26] recognize the city of Troy parks and
[7:28] recreation departments for positively
[7:29] contributing to the health and wellness
[7:31] of the city. Whereas, parks and
[7:33] recreation are integral to the quality
[7:35] of life enjoyed by residents throughout
[7:37] the country, including in here in the
[7:39] city of Troy. And whereas the city of
[7:41] Troy is home to more than 900 acres of
[7:44] parkland and that provide year-round
[7:46] recreational opportunities for residents
[7:48] and visitors of all ages and abilities.
[7:51] And whereas the city of Troy parks and
[7:53] recreation departments offer extensive
[7:55] programming, facilities, events, and
[7:58] activities that encourage lifelong
[8:00] recreation, wellness, learning, and
[8:02] community connections at all level of
[8:04] participation. And whereas the city of
[8:06] Troy parks and recreation departments
[8:08] promote health and wellness by improving
[8:11] the physical and mental health of
[8:13] individuals and families and providing
[8:15] opportunities for active and healthy
[8:17] lifestyles. And whereas the city of Troy
[8:19] parks and recreation departments
[8:22] encourage physical activity through
[8:23] access to trails, sports fields,
[8:25] playgrounds, aquatic facilities, open
[8:28] spaces, and numerous other amenities
[8:30] designed to support healthy living. And
[8:32] whereas parks and recreation programming
[8:34] and educational opportunities offered
[8:36] through the city of Troy, including
[8:38] youth sports, camps, enrichment
[8:40] programs, and environmental education,
[8:42] play a critical role in childhood
[8:44] development and lifelong learning.
[8:48] And whereas parks and recreation
[8:50] opportunities contribute to the economic
[8:52] vitality of the city of Troy by
[8:53] enhancing property values, supporting
[8:55] tourism, attracting and retaining
[8:57] businesses, and improving overall
[8:59] community desiraability. And whereas the
[9:02] city of Troy parks and recreation
[9:03] departments have earned statewide
[9:05] recognition through multiple Michigan
[9:07] Recreation and Park Association or M
[9:09] Parks awards, including the 2025 park
[9:12] design award for the GM Stein Community
[9:14] Park and the seasonal brochure activity
[9:17] guide award for the winter 2526
[9:19] recreation guide reflecting the city's
[9:22] commitment to excellence in park
[9:23] development, recreation programming, and
[9:26] community engagement. And whereas the US
[9:28] House of Representatives has designated
[9:30] July as Parks and Recreation Month. And
[9:33] whereas the city of Troy recognizes and
[9:35] celebrates the many benefits derived
[9:37] from its parks, recreation facilities,
[9:39] programs, and dedicated staff who enrich
[9:41] the lives of residents every day. Now,
[9:44] therefore, be it resolved that the mayor
[9:46] and city council recognize July as Parks
[9:48] and Recreation Month to further
[9:50] highlight the importance of the city of
[9:52] Troy parks and recreation departments to
[9:54] the local community. And of course, we
[9:56] commend and thank our parks and
[9:57] recreations department for all the
[9:58] amazing work they do for our community.
[10:00] All of you sitting here tonight and all
[10:02] of you who are probably there's a lot
[10:03] more of you out in our parks right now
[10:05] enjoying the the beautiful weather. So,
[10:06] this proclamation is presented this 29th
[10:08] day of June, 2026. Signed by myself as
[10:11] the mayor. All member of our city
[10:12] members of our city council have signed
[10:14] it. Allison, you're next to me, but I
[10:16] don't know if I'm support Who am I who
[10:17] am I really giving it to?
[10:19] >> You.
[10:19] >> Yeah.
[10:21] >> All right. I'll go to Alison. Thank you,
[10:22] Alison. All of our
[10:23] >> Allison and I have been we've been we
[10:25] have our concert series on Wednesdays
[10:27] and we seem to have not the best weather
[10:28] for concerts but she's making it work.
[10:31] So, you know, let's get over a little
[10:32] bit. Yeah, let's do a photo. Actually,
[10:34] why don't you
[10:36] bring out
[11:02] That was a long one, but basically we're
[11:05] very excited that July is officially
[11:07] recognized as Parks and Recreation Month
[11:09] here in Troy. Um, we're excited to
[11:11] celebrate all uh month long, but we
[11:14] especially invite you to our third
[11:15] annual Midsummer Bash to celebrate,
[11:17] which is on Saturday, July 11th at Gene
[11:21] Mstein Community Park, which we won our
[11:22] park design award for. Um, and it's free
[11:26] for all ages from 11:00 a.m. to 3:00
[11:28] p.m. We'll have an awesome touch a truck
[11:30] thanks to our fire department, some
[11:32] tractor rides thanks to our parks
[11:34] department, um, face painting, balloon
[11:37] twisting, bounce houses, climbing tower.
[11:39] So, um, we invite you to celebrate with
[11:41] us and thanks so much.
[11:43] >> What about this Wednesday? What's
[11:44] happening this Wednesday with some big
[11:45] changes?
[11:46] >> This Wednesday we have our America 250
[11:49] event which is moved inside um to the
[11:52] Troy Senior Center within the community
[11:54] center due to the heat advisory. And
[11:57] then we also have our Captain Fantastic
[12:00] Elton John tribute concert which is also
[12:03] inside at the Troy Community Center. And
[12:05] then the farmers market which is every
[12:06] Wednesday from 3:00 to 7:00 pm at Stein
[12:09] Park.
[12:10] >> Awesome. Thank you.
[12:11] >> Thank you.
[12:13] [applause]
[12:21] » All right. C3 is a proclamation to
[12:23] recognize Detroit Cowboys for 70 years
[12:25] of service in local youth sports. So
[12:28] you're all let's come on up.
[12:36] should have worn a green tie.
[12:42] » All right. So, this is a proclamation to
[12:44] recognize the Troy Cowboys for 70 years
[12:46] of service in local youth sports.
[12:48] Whereas the Troy Youth Football
[12:50] Association, commonly known as the Troy
[12:51] Cowboys, is an all volunteer
[12:53] organization dedicated to providing
[12:55] young athletes with opportunities to
[12:57] develop football and cheerleading skills
[12:59] in a positive, safe, and supportive
[13:01] environment. And whereas since 1956, the
[13:05] Troy Cowboys have served generations of
[13:06] young athletes, fostering personal
[13:09] growth, character development, and a
[13:11] strong sense of community through
[13:13] organized athletics. And whereas the
[13:15] Troy Cowboys emphasize the values of
[13:17] teamwork, integrity, sportsmanship,
[13:20] discipline, and self-confidence, helping
[13:22] young people build skills and
[13:24] relationships that extend beyond the
[13:26] playing field. And whereas the Troy
[13:28] Youth Football Association is a
[13:30] registered 501c3 nonprofit organization
[13:33] whose volunteers dedicate countless
[13:35] hours to mentoring youth and creating
[13:37] meaningful opportunities for athletic
[13:39] participation and personal development.
[13:41] And whereas the Troy Cowboys welcomes
[13:43] athletes of all skill levels, ages 5
[13:45] through 13, from Troy and surrounding
[13:47] communities, ensuring that youth have
[13:49] access to programs that encourage
[13:51] physical activity, healthy competition,
[13:53] and inclusion. And whereas as members of
[13:56] the Oakland MCOME Youth Football
[13:58] Association, the Troy Cowboys support a
[14:00] mission that promotes citizenship, good
[14:02] sportsmanship, fellowship,
[14:04] participation, and physical development
[14:07] among young athletes throughout the
[14:08] region. And whereas youth sports
[14:11] organizations such as the Troy Cowboys
[14:13] strengthen the fabric of our community
[14:15] by teaching leadership, perseverance,
[14:17] respect, and teamwork while creating
[14:19] lasting memories for participants and
[14:21] their families. And whereas the city of
[14:24] Troy recognizes the positive impact the
[14:26] Troy Cowboys have made on the lives of
[14:28] thousands of young athletes and their
[14:30] families through seven decades of
[14:32] service to the community. Now,
[14:34] therefore, be it resolved that the mayor
[14:36] and city council congratulate the Troy
[14:38] Cowboys on 70 years of serving the Troy
[14:41] community and to help instill important
[14:43] life lessons to local youth. And be it
[14:46] further resolved that the Troy City
[14:47] Council and all of Troy's residents
[14:50] thank the TR Troy Cowboys for creating a
[14:52] program that will continue to positively
[14:54] impact our youth. So this proclamation
[14:56] is presented this 29th day of June.
[14:58] Again, it's signed by myself as mayor.
[14:59] All members of our Troy City Council
[15:01] have signed it. I'm honored that you
[15:02] guys are here. I think 70 years is quite
[15:04] an accomplishment. The city's only 71
[15:06] years old. So you've been here almost as
[15:08] long. I also know this is an advocacy
[15:10] group. They're amazing. We we built some
[15:12] pickle ball fields in Firefighter Spark.
[15:14] They had some concerns about our
[15:16] practice field. We heard it and we
[15:17] worked together and we resolved it.
[15:18] That's the best part. So,
[15:19] congratulations. I think you're an
[15:21] awesome group. This is a So many people
[15:23] in our community have been touched by
[15:24] the Cowboys and continue to. So,
[15:26] >> thank the parks and department.
[15:28] >> Well, if the parks are recogniz
[16:02] One more.
[16:10] » Awesome.
[16:12] >> [applause]
[16:16] » Thank you um Mayor Baker and the city
[16:18] council for uh having us today. So my
[16:21] name is Christina Rupy. I am the
[16:22] president of the Troy Cowboys. It is an
[16:24] honor and a privilege to lead an
[16:26] organization for the youth in our city
[16:28] and it is a partnership that we have
[16:30] with the city and it's wonderful to see
[16:33] my own children in the program and watch
[16:35] the other kids that come through this
[16:36] program and watch them enjoy sports,
[16:39] enjoy learning what it means to be part
[16:41] of a team because that's what gets you
[16:43] through life is learning how to be on a
[16:45] team. So, thank you again to the city
[16:47] and uh we appreciate the award. Thank
[16:49] you, Mayor. [applause]
[17:09] That concludes certificates of
[17:11] recognition of special presentations
[17:12] this evening. We don't have any
[17:13] carryover items, so we move on to public
[17:15] hearings. We do have one tonight. E1 is
[17:17] a public hearing, adoption of Brownfield
[17:19] redevelopment plan number 13 for Backard
[17:21] Lofts redevelopment. Parcel number
[17:24] 88-20-26-351-016.
[17:28] That'll be introduced by Mark Adams, our
[17:30] economic development manager.
[17:32] >> Good evening, mayor. Good evening,
[17:34] council. I'm pleased to be able to do to
[17:37] introduce this project to the city of
[17:39] Troy. It's an adaptive reuse u uh loss
[17:43] of 1441 East Maple, which
[17:48] may have been known to most of you as
[17:50] the media genesis property. our good
[17:53] friends uh Brad and Antoine own that
[17:56] particular um building and it's sort of
[18:00] full circle for me because I helped them
[18:03] move into it in my previous job. So uh
[18:06] I'm glad to see that it's getting
[18:09] continuous uh use. This particular
[18:12] project is part of our brownfield
[18:14] program. And as most of you know, our
[18:17] brownfield program is an incentive we
[18:19] use to help with environmentally
[18:22] challenged, obsolescence,
[18:25] and um uh blighted properties here in
[18:28] the city of Troy to get them um
[18:30] redevelopment redeveloped. This
[18:32] particular project also is part of a new
[18:36] program that the state has come up with
[18:39] along with MISTA to assist with the
[18:41] housing crisis that we're having here in
[18:44] um southeastern Michigan, really the
[18:47] state of Michigan. And it allows for
[18:50] additional costs for um uh redevelopment
[18:55] of infrastructure and also for uh income
[19:00] um issues. um with these types of
[19:03] developments that are going to be using
[19:05] housing, but we're only going to be
[19:07] focusing in on the um uh infrastructure
[19:11] portion of the housing plan. And we had
[19:15] our consultant take a look at it to make
[19:17] sure it met all the specifications
[19:20] uh of this particular uh brownfield uh
[19:23] housing tiff. and a synopsis of it was
[19:27] included in in your packet. But
[19:29] basically what they're doing is they're
[19:31] redeveloping this redeveloping this
[19:34] property into retail office and 28
[19:38] units.
[19:40] 50% or half of the units 14 will be
[19:43] income qualified units.
[19:47] uh there'll be 10 single um um bedrooms
[19:51] and and four uh twin bedrooms, two bedrooms uh units.
[19:58] So um the market qualified
[20:02] um units will be at about $1,900.
[20:07] Um the income qualified units will be at
[20:10] about $1,900 and the market rate would
[20:13] be $2,300 for the the single bedrooms.
[20:16] For the two bedrooms, it would be about
[20:21] $2,300
[20:23] uh for the income qualified, but the
[20:26] market rate would be $2,700.
[20:29] So that's a a a savings. And we all know
[20:33] that we need more affordable housing
[20:35] here um in throughout the state of
[20:38] Michigan. Uh how the brownfield program
[20:42] works and most of you already know that
[20:44] but I just want to mention it for the
[20:47] audience that's that's watching here is
[20:49] that a particular piece of property has
[20:52] a baseline assessment for for the year
[20:55] that it's going to start. And as an
[20:57] example, I would say for instance, if
[20:59] the piece of property was assessed at
[21:03] $10,000
[21:05] and then the development was going to at
[21:08] the end of 10 years make it a a million
[21:12] dollar, that incremental increase in
[21:15] taxes is what is used to reimburse the
[21:19] developer a certain amount of the
[21:21] eligible cost that's in the work plan.
[21:24] So if you have $10,000 and it's going to
[21:29] go to a couple of billion and it's
[21:31] 200,000. So once they get to the value
[21:36] to where we can reimburse the the the
[21:40] uh 200,000 then that's how the program
[21:44] works. So it's no funds that are
[21:47] actually coming out of any type of pot
[21:50] of money. It's based upon the
[21:53] incremental increase in value of the
[21:55] property, which is something that um is is a great tool to use for um
[22:02] properties that we're having um issues
[22:05] uh with. Um, with that, what I want to
[22:08] do is bring up the developer to provide
[22:11] some additional commentary and to go
[22:14] over this slide. But also, um, we do
[22:17] have a consultant that we were working
[22:18] with and with fishback and that's Logan
[22:22] Mahal right right there. And none of
[22:25] these problem projects happened by
[22:27] themselves. It was a lot of work and a
[22:29] lot of uh, assistance from the team here
[22:32] in Troy. And I want to thank uh, Chris.
[22:35] I want to thank Melissa. I want to thank
[22:37] the finance department. Uh Rob Rob is
[22:40] here. I want to thank Kelly. And also I
[22:43] want to thank Lori. She put in a a lot
[22:46] of work uh also on this particular
[22:49] project. So with that, I'm going to
[22:51] bring up Milan, our the developer, to go
[22:55] over the slides. And I think you just go
[22:57] left to go forward, right to go back.
[23:01] >> Okay. So floor is yours.
[23:03] >> Thank you.
[23:05] everybody, Mayor Baker,
[23:07] members of the council, members of the
[23:09] team here. Thank you so much for having
[23:11] us and we're very excited about this
[23:13] project. Um I was hoping I could just
[23:15] spend a moment telling you why we're
[23:16] doing this. Um this building at the
[23:19] corner of Maple and Stevenson has long
[23:22] been the media genesis building and
[23:23] because of changes that happened during
[23:25] COVID to our culture and the way we work
[23:27] that building emptied out pretty fast.
[23:29] The owner of that building said that
[23:31] prior to co they had a full building
[23:33] full of employees and afterward 80% of
[23:35] their employees were working remotely
[23:37] and the building was empty. Here we come
[23:39] as a developer who does adaptive reuse
[23:42] projects. This is kind of what we focus
[23:44] on. Uh and said, "Well, gosh, that's a
[23:46] great location. The building has great
[23:48] bones. We love Troy. What can we do with
[23:51] it?" And through uh you know an
[23:54] iterative process uh with a bunch of bad
[23:57] ideas we came to a great idea uh that is
[24:00] we need to make this into a multif
[24:02] family property with some mixeduse
[24:04] elements. Um this is also not just a
[24:06] real estate investment. Um this is our
[24:08] home. So I grew up 10 miles west of
[24:10] here. My wife went to Troy High. Uh my
[24:13] family is still here in Troy. This is
[24:14] home for us. And this part of Troy
[24:17] hasn't gotten enough attention in my
[24:18] opinion. we want to be a part of of uh
[24:21] reviving it and improving it. So um in
[24:24] particular uh the the company that you
[24:27] know our our development company is
[24:29] called Blackacre and we are adaptive
[24:31] reuse experts. Um, we've been doing
[24:34] projects like this in other
[24:35] municipalities
[24:37] uh for about 8 years now. And the
[24:40] flagship property that we are just
[24:42] launching now that we've been working on
[24:43] for about four years is the Pontiac
[24:46] State Bank building in downtown Pontiac.
[24:48] Uh it is the uh oldest and largest
[24:51] building in Pontiac, 115,000 square ft,
[24:55] uh 14 stories, and it is now open for
[24:57] business and leasing 114 uh luxury
[25:01] apartment units. Part of how we
[25:03] accomplished that was through a
[25:04] brownfield uh credit as well as some
[25:07] MISTA uh credit uh that we were able to
[25:09] access. But we took a lot of the
[25:12] learning there and I I don't know if you
[25:13] caught that. We started that project
[25:15] four years ago. Uh and we we went to
[25:17] school on that project and here we are
[25:19] in Troy taking all the learning and
[25:21] going to focus on this building and make
[25:23] it happen in about 9 or 10 months. Uh so
[25:26] uh Troy gets the benefit of all of uh
[25:29] Pontiac's teachings. Um this is the
[25:32] Pontiac State Bank building that I
[25:33] mentioned. Uh it's a 100-year-old tower
[25:36] uh and and it's now a mixeduse
[25:38] development. The first four floors are
[25:40] retail and office and then uh the top 10
[25:43] are all residential units. F leasing in
[25:46] full swing, we're about 30% leased. Uh
[25:48] we're about 40 days in and we think
[25:50] we'll be full by the end of the year. Uh
[25:52] again, there are some incomerestricted
[25:54] units in this building. Uh similar but
[25:56] different to the way we've structured it
[25:58] here in Troy. Um this is a little bit of
[26:01] a before and after of what we can do.
[26:03] And this is a picture of the Pontiac
[26:06] building. Uh this is an actual office
[26:09] that we found and this was one of the
[26:10] nicer ones. Uh and we turned it into a
[26:14] beautiful corner apartment uh with
[26:17] that's a a one-bedroom unit in that
[26:19] corner there. Uh with brand new windows,
[26:22] new floors, new kitchens, new uh uh
[26:25] paint of course on the wall and drywall,
[26:27] new electrical, new everything. Uh and
[26:29] we took these this building down to the
[26:31] studs. It's exactly the same way we're
[26:32] going to do it in Troy uh with the uh
[26:34] 1441 East Maple Building, but you can
[26:37] sort of see what it ends up looking
[26:38] like.
[26:40] Uh this particular property is is
[26:42] obviously much smaller than the Pontiac
[26:44] building. This is a 35,000t building
[26:46] that is uh only four stories. It
[26:49] actually makes it a in certain ways a
[26:51] little more difficult to develop. And
[26:53] I'll explain why. Taking an office
[26:55] building and making it into apartments
[26:58] only works if you have skinny buildings.
[27:00] fat buildings don't let you do it
[27:02] because you have these interior spaces
[27:04] with no windows where nobody wants to
[27:05] live. Luckily, this is a skinny
[27:07] building. Uh but these buildings, office
[27:10] buildings were made with singular
[27:12] bathroom uh uh uh uh chases through the
[27:16] building. So, all the bathrooms were on
[27:18] the same part of the building uh on all
[27:20] four floors on both sides of the
[27:22] building. Well, here we need plumbing
[27:23] throughout the building for kitchens and
[27:24] bathrooms. So, there's a lot of saw
[27:26] cutting, there's a lot of plumbing that
[27:28] goes into it. There's of course framing
[27:30] and electrical and all that. And so
[27:32] that's the design process, the redesign
[27:34] process of a building like this. The
[27:37] other thing is it looks like an office
[27:38] building and we want to make it look
[27:40] like a home. So one of the things we're
[27:42] doing is we're going to take that uh
[27:44] brown paneling that you can see in the
[27:46] pictures. Uh it kind of looks like wood.
[27:48] It's not. It's a composite material, but
[27:50] we're able to wrap it around the
[27:51] building uh as well as uh strip some of
[27:54] the the smoke uh tinting from the
[27:57] windows to make it look a little bit
[27:58] more like a home and less like an office
[28:00] building. Uh this will end up having 28
[28:03] units, 14 on the second floor, 14 on the
[28:07] third floor. Uh they'll be almost
[28:10] identical floor plans. Again, that helps
[28:11] with plumbing and electrical. And then
[28:13] down on the ground floor, which is not
[28:16] quite a full floor if you know the
[28:17] building, there's a drive-thru under the
[28:19] building that will have a mixture of
[28:21] tenant amenities, uh, such as lounge
[28:24] areas, co-working spaces. There will be
[28:27] a small retail element where we're
[28:29] thinking about what to put there.
[28:31] There's some ideas of a bike shop or a
[28:33] coffee shop, uh, potentially child care
[28:35] operator. We're we're still working out
[28:37] what makes sense for the residents and
[28:39] for the area. And then the outdoor area
[28:41] will be re Do I have pictures of this?
[28:43] No. Uh the outdoor area will be
[28:45] redeveloped into uh an outdoor amenity
[28:48] space for the tenants, including seating
[28:51] areas, outdoor barbecue grills, as well
[28:54] as a pickle ball court. Uh and this will
[28:57] be a free tenant amenity. A lot of that
[28:59] first floor, indoor and outdoor, are
[29:02] free tenant amenities for the tenants.
[29:04] So all built in for people to live,
[29:06] work, play in the same space.
[29:09] This is actual renderings of what we
[29:12] plan to do in Troy. So, these are
[29:14] actually what it'll end up looking like.
[29:16] For example, you notice that the windows
[29:19] start only 2 ft above the floor. Right
[29:22] now, they're floor to ceiling. It's not
[29:23] really how we want to live necessarily.
[29:25] So, we're creating uh the drywall across
[29:28] and that's part of what will be covered
[29:29] by the wood paneling or the wood
[29:31] composite paneling on the other side. Uh
[29:33] the uh ceilings will be uh fully
[29:37] drywalled with uh can lighting. Uh we'll
[29:40] put in of course modern kitchens and
[29:42] appliances. Uh uh the floors will be a
[29:45] mixture of hardwood and and uh low pile
[29:47] carpet uh for hightra type of use,
[29:50] families with children. Um as I
[29:52] mentioned, a resident lounge, a fitness
[29:54] center, outdoor lounge, and then some
[29:57] limited commercial spaces on the first
[29:59] floor. uh the uh apartments as uh Mr.
[30:02] Adams mentioned are ones and twos, one
[30:04] bedrooms and two bedrooms, 10 ones and
[30:06] four twos. Uh and that is how we
[30:09] engineered the prices with meeting MISTA
[30:12] standards for uh uh incomerestricted
[30:15] pricing as well as meeting the
[30:16] brownfield standards.
[30:19] Um a little bit about the costs of this.
[30:22] Well, uh the the as completed value will
[30:25] be $6.3 million. That's adding in the
[30:29] cost of acquiring the building, the
[30:30] holding costs and soft costs, as well as
[30:32] all of the hard costs of building and uh
[30:35] finishing the building, uh finishing the
[30:37] construction, excuse me. Um, in
[30:40] particular, I you can read all the
[30:41] categories, but these categories are
[30:43] exactly how we calculate the brownfield
[30:45] reimbursement. And and as Mr. Adams
[30:47] said, this is no new money for the city
[30:49] of Troy. This is us investing in the
[30:52] property, creating more tax revenue, and
[30:54] then asking for a piece of it back over
[30:56] a period of time to help pay for the
[30:58] construction and to help keep rents
[31:00] down. This is how we keep rents down.
[31:04] Um, this describes a little bit of what
[31:07] I just said, but in particular, I want
[31:09] to focus on that one, two, three, fourth
[31:12] one. Uh, Troy has long, and I've grown
[31:14] up in this area. I've been here my
[31:15] entire life. Troy has been the
[31:17] commercial center of Oakland County and
[31:18] Metro Detroit forever. And today, people
[31:22] work and live differently. And I think
[31:23] that when we can take an office building
[31:26] and turn it into housing, it's a twofer
[31:29] for the city. Uh you're taking office
[31:31] offline that you don't need, that you
[31:33] have over, you know, maybe more office
[31:34] than you need right now in Troy, and
[31:36] you're creating housing that you don't
[31:37] have. So, I feel like this could be the
[31:40] first of several such projects. We hope
[31:42] it is. And if this is successful, we're
[31:44] already eyes open looking for other
[31:46] properties here in Troy to do a similar
[31:47] style project.
[31:50] Um, that is sort of concludes our
[31:52] slides. Again, I want to say that this
[31:54] is something very important to us. This
[31:56] is home for us. We're not out oftowners.
[31:59] We're not trying to make a buck and get
[32:01] out of here. This is a project we are
[32:03] going to own long term and manage long
[32:04] term. Uh, we're not flippers. Uh, and if
[32:07] you look at all of our other projects
[32:08] and and Mr. Adams and and some of the
[32:10] team from the city came to see our
[32:12] Pontiac project. That's a long-term hold
[32:14] for us. Everything we do, this is my
[32:16] family and this is our business. So, uh
[32:18] I I really feel strongly about this and
[32:20] we appreciate the effort that the city
[32:23] has put in, particularly uh the city
[32:25] administration has put into helping us
[32:26] get to this point. So, thank you. Um
[32:30] Mayor Baker, I talk a lot, too. Uh is
[32:32] there I would love to take any
[32:33] questions.
[32:35] >> Uh let's go with Council Member
[32:36] Chamberlain.
[32:37] >> Thank you, Mayor. Um sir, thank you for
[32:39] bringing your expertise, your business
[32:42] to your hometown, our hometown here in
[32:44] Troy. And I do believe this is a
[32:46] gamecher. Um just a couple questions. We
[32:50] do we do brownfields, those happen all
[32:53] the time and we are starting to do more
[32:56] and more office to residential
[32:58] conversions as you know. But what's the
[33:00] game changer here is we're doing
[33:02] workforce housing half of the units. um
[33:05] just wanted to understand and this is
[33:08] coming out of new legislation that came
[33:09] out of Lancing a couple of years ago and
[33:11] so this is our first our first in Troy.
[33:14] Can you explain what makes this
[33:16] different with the workforce housing
[33:18] than a traditional brownfield because as
[33:20] you shared you have brownfield elements
[33:22] hazardous materials you need to remove
[33:24] um is it that MISTA um credits that come
[33:27] into that project or what's kind of
[33:29] makes it different in that sense
[33:32] >> um I am going to ask our consultant uh
[33:35] Elizabeth Maserang from so she is our
[33:38] expert when it comes to brownfields and
[33:40] tax credits in the law uh I will make a
[33:42] mistake if I try to explain it So, I'd
[33:44] like Elizabeth, please, to explain that
[33:46] part.
[33:46] >> Sure.
[33:48] >> Uh, good evening. Um, so I think the
[33:50] simplest way to probably describe it is
[33:52] it unlocks significantly more eligible
[33:54] activities, especially being in the city
[33:57] of Troy. So, you might be familiar with
[33:59] some they're known as core communities
[34:00] that were established through a tax
[34:02] abatement program 10-15 years ago. And
[34:04] they always had access to eligible
[34:06] activities that included infrastructure
[34:08] improvements and site prep. But not
[34:10] every city falls within that category.
[34:13] And so historically in Troy it's been
[34:15] environmental demo asbestous abatement
[34:17] etc. Through going through the MISTA
[34:20] program and working through setting
[34:21] aside units for workforce housing
[34:23] infrastructure improvements rehab costs
[34:26] towards income qualified households
[34:28] those then become eligible activities
[34:30] and so it gives a developer a little bit
[34:32] more flexibility when it comes to
[34:34] financing and using tiff specifically
[34:36] for workforce housing.
[34:38] >> Thank you for that description. I know
[34:40] when there was uh the conversation
[34:43] lancing, I mean it was a gamecher to
[34:45] move this forward and now we see it
[34:46] coming to our community and I know in
[34:50] one of the pieces attached oh gosh it
[34:52] said it's a 2021 number but it it
[34:55] mentioned oh gosh the number of
[34:58] percentage of those who are um housing
[35:01] burdened the percentage of their um in
[35:04] Troy uh of their um those who are paying
[35:07] rent their um income going to rent. Oh,
[35:10] I just had it. But it's a very small
[35:12] print and it's a good reminder um of
[35:15] those things. Second question I wanted
[35:17] to ask and this may be for the de um
[35:20] developer yourself.
[35:22] Can you remind me how long? So half of
[35:25] the units are dedicated to workforce
[35:27] housing. Is that kind of in perpetuity
[35:30] or is that how is that for a number of
[35:32] years? Is that as um can you describe
[35:35] the length of time?
[35:35] >> I believe it's committed for a number of
[35:37] how many years? committed for 15 years.
[35:40] >> That's why I thought about a number.
[35:41] >> Yeah. 15 years that 50% of the units
[35:43] will be committed to is it 100% 100% of
[35:47] uh area median income.
[35:48] >> Okay.
[35:52] » Thank you, Council Member Hamilton.
[35:53] >> Uh thank you. Yeah, this is something a
[35:56] lot of us on council have talked about
[35:58] for a long time is redeveloping our
[35:59] office space. Our office vacancies
[36:01] aren't as bad as they were during CO,
[36:03] but Troy, as you mentioned, we have
[36:05] 6,000 businesses. We have over 130,000
[36:09] 120 130,000 people that work in the city
[36:11] of Troy. Most of them aren't from here.
[36:13] So, this is a great project that's doing
[36:16] exactly what we want to do. And so, we
[36:17] thank you for coming here and hope to
[36:19] see more. My question out of curiosity
[36:22] was you mentioned in the Pontiac project
[36:25] it took four years and there were a lot
[36:26] of lessons learned and now this project
[36:29] is scheduled for completion in about a
[36:31] year and a half. So what are those
[36:32] lessons learned that you're willing to
[36:34] share if you if if you want to hit up?
[36:37] >> Sure. Um I I think one of them is uh as
[36:41] we went through I can give you three
[36:43] reasons off the top of my head. Uh
[36:45] firstly the subcontractors that we used
[36:47] in the Pontiac project. we might be on
[36:49] our second or third one in each
[36:51] discipline because adaptive reuse is not
[36:53] for everybody and not everybody is
[36:56] nimble enough, creative enough to find a
[36:58] way to solve a problem versus just
[37:00] saying well we got to demo it and start
[37:01] over. Um so that's number one is that we
[37:04] went through vendors who may not have
[37:05] been equipped for this type of work. Uh
[37:08] number two, I think that uh when it
[37:11] comes to staging the project, there are
[37:13] a lot of contingencies, meaning that uh
[37:16] you can't do this until you do that, but
[37:18] there are several things that could be
[37:19] done concurrently. And I think we
[37:21] learned as we went again with adaptive
[37:22] reuse, this is not the same thing as the
[37:25] Gant chart that you would see for a
[37:27] groundup construction. So, we learned
[37:29] about things that we can do
[37:30] concurrently. We realized, oh my gosh,
[37:32] we can do both of these things
[37:33] concurrently in this project that we
[37:34] should have done in Pontiac, but didn't.
[37:36] Uh, by the way, we have other projects
[37:38] that we're working on through that four
[37:40] years, but none of them are office to
[37:42] apartment conversions. Just want to be
[37:44] clear about that. We've done office to
[37:46] medical office conversions and we've
[37:47] done industrial conversions, but uh this
[37:49] would be the second uh of this type. And
[37:52] then the third reason is um we're just
[37:55] smarter now. I think uh we we've we've
[37:57] learned a lot of thing. We we went down
[37:59] a lot a lot of roads that were dead ends
[38:01] in terms of thoughts of how to design
[38:03] the units, thoughts of how to solve HVAC
[38:06] problems. So, one of the things I didn't
[38:07] mention is you need individual HVAC in
[38:09] each unit, heating and air conditioning.
[38:12] Um, and the way you solve that problem,
[38:13] there's three or four different ways. We
[38:15] chose the wrong one at first in Pontiac
[38:16] and then we ended up with the right one
[38:17] and we've learned that lesson. So, now
[38:19] we know uh h how to solve it here.
[38:22] >> Thank you. Yeah, definitely need AC this
[38:25] week for sure. Um, no, I appreciate it.
[38:28] So, for um non-skinny buildings, which
[38:31] Troy has a lot of those, what are your
[38:33] options there? Uh, what do you do with
[38:35] the middle parts? Because we have a lot
[38:37] various types of buildings here in Troy.
[38:39] So, I'm curious your thoughts on that.
[38:41] >> It it is tough. I will tell you that,
[38:43] uh, even here with 1441, there is a
[38:47] central
[38:48] corridor, you could call it, it's not
[38:50] going to be a corridor, but a central
[38:51] area of each floor that we're turning
[38:53] into storage units. Um these will be
[38:56] locked storage units that individual
[38:58] tenants can rent. Uh storing a bicycle
[39:00] for example or some other um you know
[39:03] household goods, sporting goods,
[39:04] whatever it may be. So that's uh one of
[39:06] the things you can do. You can't put
[39:08] storage everywhere. Uh and there's a a
[39:11] limit to how much storage people need or
[39:13] will will lease. So I don't necessarily
[39:15] have a great answer for you uh other
[39:18] than um you got to find something where
[39:20] people don't need windows. Uh, so at the
[39:23] moment what I got is a little bit of
[39:25] storage. Okay.
[39:26] >> Uh, if it was really fat enough, you
[39:29] could probably put an indoor track and a
[39:30] gym in the middle. Uh, if it was a big
[39:32] enough building to sustain that kind of
[39:34] an amenity. It's a lot of square
[39:35] footage, though.
[39:36] >> Thank you, Council Member.
[39:39] >> Um, how you doing?
[39:40] >> Good. Good to see you.
[39:41] >> I um I can attest because in my previous
[39:45] or another business I'm in, I did see
[39:47] the Pontiac building before I started
[39:49] working on it. seen it after. Amazing. I
[39:53] think Detroit too, right? And um a
[39:57] question I have though is how many
[40:00] commercial units was it on the first
[40:02] floor
[40:03] >> in in this 1441 building? So, uh
[40:06] commercial units, it looks like three.
[40:07] Again, we're we're still scoping it out
[40:09] and figuring out who wants to be there,
[40:11] what will serve the tenants and the
[40:13] community best. Uh if you look at the
[40:15] floor plan of the ground floor, it's
[40:17] majority tenant amenities. So, uh, a
[40:20] gym, a lounge, and a co-working space.
[40:24] And then on the front end of the
[40:25] building, some retail spots.
[40:27] >> Okay. Got it. And just a point of, uh,
[40:30] information on your introduction page,
[40:34] property description, it's actually west
[40:36] of Stevenson. I think you guys have it
[40:37] east of Stevenson.
[40:38] >> It's definitely west of Stevenson. Yeah.
[40:40] Excuse me for that.
[40:42] >> But, no, I'm I'm a big fan of your work.
[40:44] It's You've done amazing stuff. So,
[40:46] >> thank you. And if you saw Pontiac before
[40:48] >> Oh, I did. Yeah, it was it was a quite a
[40:51] war zone.
[40:51] >> It's tough to pass you actually.
[40:54] >> Yeah,
[40:55] >> Brooks.
[40:55] >> Uh, thank you, Mayor. Uh, first of all,
[40:57] thank you so much for this presentation
[40:58] and thank you for all the work that
[41:00] you're doing. Um, I love to see
[41:02] repurposing of buildings as well. I
[41:04] think it is great for the environment. I
[41:06] think it's great for so many reasons.
[41:08] And I think, you know, we have a housing
[41:11] issue crisis really um and affordability
[41:14] issue with housing. And you know, any
[41:17] way that we can improve that, I think
[41:18] it's a wonderful thing. Um, one thing I
[41:21] was hoping for was to see kind of the
[41:23] schematics or the rendering of the
[41:25] outdoor space cuz you mentioned, you
[41:27] know, pickle ball courts and things like
[41:28] that, but I know right now it's pavement
[41:31] around it. Um, and so I was wondering
[41:34] how that would look and also with the
[41:36] pickle ball is very popular. Um, would
[41:38] that be exclusive to those who live in
[41:41] the building or is it open to the
[41:43] community? Um, so I'll go backward. I'll
[41:46] answer them backward if that's okay. Uh,
[41:48] the pickle ball and all outdoor
[41:50] amenities would be restricted to
[41:51] residents and their guests. Uh, this
[41:53] won't be a public space. Uh, but
[41:56] residents and their guests. It'll be a
[41:58] single pickle ball court and it will be
[41:59] in the space underneath the drive-thru
[42:02] where the drive-thru is right now. So,
[42:04] it's within the envelope of the physical
[42:07] building. Outside of that building, we
[42:09] have a lot of asphalt, concrete, uh, you
[42:12] know, it's it's a lot of hardscape. It's
[42:14] not a lot of green. And we went through
[42:16] the sustainable review
[42:19] >> sustainability review board uh to talk
[42:22] about adding uh green spaces and uh we
[42:26] went through a lengthy process and were
[42:28] approved. So there is a plan for that.
[42:30] I'm sorry I didn't include it today, but
[42:31] that was a passed through the
[42:34] sustainable sustainability review board
[42:37] uh for their uh approval.
[42:40] >> And so the answer to your the short
[42:42] answer is there's a lot more green in
[42:43] the final version than what there is
[42:45] today.
[42:45] >> Okay, good. That's good to know.
[42:47] >> Yeah.
[42:48] >> My only question after tonight, assuming
[42:51] approval here, sounds like you're going
[42:53] to get that based on what I've heard.
[42:55] What what are your next steps? What kind
[42:56] of approvals are you waiting for from
[42:57] the state or what's next for to actually
[43:00] get this project going?
[43:02] >> Um, so if approved this evening, uh, our
[43:05] next step would be to submit a 3D1 work
[43:07] plan to MISTA for their statutory review
[43:10] and approval for the portion that they
[43:11] approve which is the school taxes which
[43:13] they make whole on approval. So our next
[43:15] step would be to take that document to
[43:17] them and then once that is approved and
[43:19] the reimbursement agreements executed,
[43:22] we're set.
[43:23] >> So you're you're ready to go with We we
[43:26] are ready. Uh we have actually even
[43:28] applied for a building permit here in
[43:30] town uh to again do things concurrently.
[43:33] Uh as I mentioned before, we've learned
[43:34] about concurrence and how to save time.
[43:36] So uh we have applied for a building
[43:38] permit. We're in that process now. And
[43:40] as well as uh finalizing things with the
[43:43] city and the state for the tax credit.
[43:45] >> And this is a question that I know the
[43:47] answer to, but I it wasn't presented.
[43:49] You have recommendation from the
[43:51] Brownfield board, correct? 5 to zero.
[43:53] It's in the it's in the packet. We we
[43:55] did we we did present something very
[43:57] similar to today to the Brownfield
[43:58] Authority here in Troy. They asked a lot
[44:00] of good questions and we did receive a
[44:02] 50 approval.
[44:03] >> And you already have prel pre
[44:04] preliminary site plan approval from the
[44:06] planning commission as well.
[44:07] >> Yes, we do. Yes, we do. Thank you.
[44:09] >> I was excuse me. I was remiss and I was
[44:12] going to mention that the Brownfield
[44:14] board did approve it and of course it's
[44:17] contingent upon city council approval,
[44:20] but we did go through that uh process
[44:23] and Brent did take a look at it also.
[44:26] >> Thank you. Appreciate it. Any other
[44:28] questions? All right, let's open the
[44:29] public hearing. I don't see anyone have
[44:31] signed up to speak on E1 this public
[44:33] hearing, but that doesn't prohibit
[44:34] anybody from speaking if they'd like to.
[44:38] All right, seeing none, we'll close the
[44:40] public hearing. Ask if someone would
[44:41] like to move the resolution. Council
[44:42] member Chamberlain.
[44:43] >> Thank you, Mayor. I'll move E1, public
[44:46] hearing, adoption of Brownfield red
[44:49] development plan number 13 for Bashard
[44:52] Lofts redevelopment parcel number
[44:55] 88-20-226-351-016
[45:03] as printed in the agenda packet. support
[45:05] >> moved by council member Chamberlain
[45:07] supported by council member Gun that we
[45:08] approve E1 public hearing adoption of
[45:10] the brownfield redevelopment plan number
[45:11] 13 for backward I don't know if it's
[45:13] bashard or backard I've been saying both
[45:15] loft's redevelopment parcel number
[45:17] 88-20-26-351-016
[45:21] as printed in the agenda packet
[45:23] discussion
[45:25] member Chamberlain
[45:26] >> thank you mayor um as I said before this
[45:28] is clearly a gamecher we do brownfields
[45:31] we do work force um we do conversions
[45:34] from office to residential, but this is
[45:37] the first one in Troy where we're adding
[45:38] workforce housing. Um, I'm just very
[45:41] delighted and I do want to I did find
[45:43] that figure. I just wanted to read it.
[45:44] It's in your proposal stating that 28%
[45:48] of renters are considered overburdened,
[45:51] which is defined as spending more than
[45:53] 30% of household income on housing. And
[45:56] that was according to the Misha
[45:57] statewide housing report um in it here
[46:00] in Troy. So, thank you for contributing
[46:02] towards addressing the housing crisis
[46:04] that we have in our community and that
[46:06] we have around the state.
[46:08] >> Thank you. Additional comments.
[46:12] A lot were said during the questions,
[46:13] but I'll just add a couple things. I
[46:14] first of all, I know it was a long time
[46:15] getting here once we got to this point.
[46:17] I'm happy to see that we're we're at
[46:18] this point. Thankful to our consultant,
[46:21] to your consultants, and everybody on
[46:22] city staff for um getting us here today.
[46:26] Um,
[46:28] we talked a lot about how most office
[46:31] buildings don't easily convert to
[46:33] residential and people are always saying
[46:35] convert res convert all these empty
[46:37] office buildings to residential and you
[46:39] spoke very clearly and eloquently about
[46:41] the reasons why it can be so difficult.
[46:43] Probably clearer than I've heard most
[46:44] people give in a lot of presentations
[46:46] I've seen. So, I appreciate that. Um, I
[46:48] do um love that you hopefully with
[46:52] tonight's approval and moving forward
[46:53] you're looking for other options in the
[46:54] city of Troy. still think that's uh
[46:56] something that we can continue to be
[46:58] proud of in this city. We are kind of a
[47:00] leaders regionally and some of the other
[47:01] work that's been done and some of other
[47:03] projects. So this is again a new and
[47:05] exciting project and please keep it up.
[47:07] Um I think the other aspect that you
[47:11] touched on a little bit is the Maple
[47:12] Corridor and as long as I've been on
[47:15] council or up here, we've talked about
[47:17] trying to make Maple something more than
[47:20] it is. Um part of it's a shared couple
[47:22] cities border. you know, it's a little
[47:23] different than something all in choice
[47:26] borders, but uh I love that you're
[47:28] bringing some nice residential to an
[47:30] area that people don't automatically
[47:32] think of as a place for residential. So,
[47:34] thank you for doing that. Uh I hope that
[47:36] it will spur further development in that
[47:40] area um and places for people who live
[47:42] there to go and to to eat and do things
[47:45] of that nature and more residents, of
[47:47] course. um kind of just a commentary. I
[47:52] it's we hear about it and we read about
[47:54] it and I'm certainly not immune to
[47:55] understanding it, but what gets now
[47:58] labeled as attainable or affordable,
[48:01] it's still a lot of money. Even the
[48:03] reduced rental amounts are way more than
[48:05] people have traditionally paid for um
[48:09] even really nice housing. And and it's just an interesting um place we're
[48:13] in. So, thank you for working with the
[48:15] state to to come up with something that
[48:18] makes sense. Um, and it is a reminder
[48:20] that it's what 14, you know, half the
[48:25] units are going to be a little bit
[48:27] cheaper than what they would otherwise
[48:28] be. Like that's not going to solve any
[48:30] crisis here in in Metro Detroit, but it
[48:33] is a good first step for the city of
[48:34] Troy. So, thank you for doing that. Um,
[48:39] I think that's it. So, I lost the vote,
[48:40] Miss Dixon.
[48:41] >> Council member Brooks. Yes.
[48:43] >> Council member Chamberlain.
[48:44] >> Yes.
[48:45] >> Council member Gun.
[48:46] >> Yes.
[48:47] >> Council member Hamilton.
[48:48] >> Yes.
[48:48] >> Mayor Baker.
[48:49] >> Yes.
[48:50] >> Oh, it's only five of us. Motion
[48:52] carries.
[48:53] >> Thank you.
[48:57] » That concludes public hearings tonight.
[48:59] Next up for public comment for items on
[49:00] the agenda from Troy residents and
[49:02] businesses. We do have two people signed
[49:03] up. As a reminder, you have three
[49:05] minutes. You know the rules that our uh
[49:08] city council rules of procedure. Clock
[49:09] will countdown. Light turns yellow. You
[49:11] have one minute. the light turns red.
[49:13] That is the uh time. So, first up is
[49:16] David Niffin.
[49:23] Good evening, Dave Niffin, 5501 Boros,
[49:25] Troy, Michigan. Um, I had the pleasure
[49:27] this spring of visiting firefighters
[49:30] park often for my son's T-ball. And in
[49:33] doing so, I was able to see the pickle
[49:35] ball court, the big pickle ball court,
[49:36] the the concrete and everything. also
[49:39] seen the the ribbon cutting from the uh
[49:41] the new cricket field and it brought me
[49:43] back to the early 90s when I was at
[49:45] Athens as an underassman. The
[49:47] upperassman had circulated a petition to
[49:50] get this city to build an outdoor roller
[49:52] hockey rink much like we have at Bordon
[49:55] Park in Rochester Hills in Ferndale and
[49:58] Oak Park and Berkeley. And I remember
[50:00] signing a petition two years in a row
[50:02] and I believe somebody brought it here
[50:04] older than I. And obviously we still
[50:06] don't have one 35 years later. Um I
[50:10] still go up to Bordon Park, play hockey.
[50:11] I take my kids up there. It's a great
[50:13] park. It's a great uh facility. And of
[50:15] course, nobody was talking about pickle
[50:17] ball back then or cricket or any of
[50:18] these other things. And when I drive
[50:20] through some of the neighborhoods and I
[50:21] see kids dragging a hockey net out of
[50:24] the street so cars can pass, they say
[50:26] car and it reminds me that uh we're
[50:29] still waiting. So just keep that in
[50:31] mind.
[50:32] >> Thank you.
[50:34] Next up is Donnie Niff.
[50:47] Hi, I'm Donnie Niffin from 5501 Boros
[50:52] Drive, Troy, Michigan. We just took a
[50:54] trip to Troy, Ohio, and we drove through
[50:58] a ton of towns coming back. And all of
[51:01] them had
[51:03] decorations up for America 250, even
[51:06] lights. I know there is a city 250
[51:10] event, but I think the city could do
[51:12] better with lights and more decorations
[51:16] to show how proud we are for our
[51:19] nation's great birthday.
[51:23] Thank you, Johnny.
[51:24] >> That'll be all.
[51:25] >> That concludes those that have signed up
[51:26] for public comment for items on the
[51:28] agenda from Troy residents and
[51:29] businesses. Now's an opportunity for
[51:31] council and administration to respond.
[51:34] Anyone like?
[51:38] » I will. I appreciate you both coming in
[51:39] as always. Uh I think the
[51:43] parks and recck board should be the next
[51:44] place you go to talk about outdoor
[51:47] hockey, roller hockey, because they
[51:49] would be a recommending body. Of course,
[51:51] there are always financial constraints
[51:53] um that will drive some of those
[51:55] decisions, but um I know there are a lot
[51:58] of different recreational uses that
[52:00] people are looking for and but the parks
[52:02] and rec board would probably be a great
[52:04] place to start to bring it to revive it.
[52:07] I haven't seen the petition from 35
[52:08] years ago. So, um and to you, Donnie, uh
[52:12] we do have some banners up on our civic
[52:14] center property for America 250. I'm
[52:17] with you. Yeah, I mean, I wish we had
[52:18] decorations everywhere because I think
[52:20] it's a really cool and monumental thing
[52:22] that we're experiencing. Um, and
[52:27] I'm I'm with you. But here we are. Um,
[52:30] we'll celebrate Wednesday night here in
[52:31] the city and I hope that um you
[52:35] celebrate wherever you are and we'll
[52:38] keep decorating and keep talking about
[52:39] it. Anyone have decorations at home?
[52:41] Rebecca, go ahead.
[52:43] >> I wish I did. You know, get those
[52:44] American flags up. Um, I don't know what
[52:47] it would take at this point to be able
[52:49] to print all those lovely posters um or
[52:52] banners that we have in the civic center
[52:54] and put them up and down Big Beaver. I
[52:56] would love that. Um, I I would look to
[52:59] city management to um to tell us could
[53:02] we do that and is there budget for that?
[53:04] >> City manager, you want to speak to that?
[53:07] >> I mean or do you would I I
[53:11] >> No, we have some of those banners up. Um
[53:14] I I know there was an issue with the
[53:16] company trying to get um things done in
[53:19] time and more and cost and different
[53:21] things like that, but we do have banners
[53:23] out not only Civic Center on campus, but
[53:25] um we tried to stretch out beyond that a
[53:27] little bit too.
[53:29] >> They were they were supposed to be up
[53:31] and down Big Beaver, but there was an
[53:32] issue.
[53:33] >> So I empathize having my workplace, we
[53:35] were having issues trying to print and
[53:37] it was our centennial and believe me, so
[53:39] I I empathize that there can be issues.
[53:41] So there there are some issues and it
[53:43] sounds like there was a vision to have
[53:45] it all up and down. Um so but thank you.
[53:47] I agree. I would love to celebrate and
[53:50] as much as I wish we had a parade even
[53:53] so in the future
[53:56] >> I'll just suggest on your way home look
[53:58] to your left on Steve and you'll see
[54:00] what I did with the with lights all
[54:02] over.
[54:05] >> One final comment on that. I used to
[54:07] have a neighbor who every Memorial Day
[54:09] put out flags in the everyone's resident
[54:12] in front of every house in front of our
[54:14] neighborhood. And I always thought that
[54:15] was a very cool thing that he did
[54:16] individually. And I I know that some
[54:18] HOAs are doing things like that in their
[54:20] individual neighborhoods. Um I had a
[54:22] vision of 250 flags somewhere out here.
[54:24] But [clears throat] you know, things
[54:26] happen. But uh we'll we'll celebrate and
[54:28] enjoy the importance of this event
[54:30] regardless. But u I do hear you and I
[54:32] appreciate you you bringing that to us
[54:34] tonight.
[54:35] >> All right.
[54:36] Uh,
[54:39] no postponed items this evening. So, we
[54:40] move on to regular business. I1 is board
[54:42] and committee appointments. We do have
[54:44] one mayoral appointment this evening.
[54:46] I'll move resolve that the mayor of the
[54:48] city of Troy hereby appoints the
[54:49] following nominated persons to serve on
[54:51] boards and committees as indicated.
[54:53] Anthony Rosen Bloom to the Local
[54:54] Development Finance Authority, LDFA, as
[54:57] the resident member for the term
[54:58] expiring June 30th, 2030.
[55:01] >> Support. Moved by the chair, supported
[55:04] by council member Chamberlain that we
[55:05] approve the reappoint of Anthony
[55:06] Rosenlum as a resident member to the
[55:08] local development finance authority for
[55:10] the term expiring June 30th, 2030. Any
[55:12] discussion?
[55:14] >> The vote, Miss Dixon.
[55:15] >> Council member Chamberlain,
[55:16] >> yes.
[55:16] >> Council member Gun,
[55:17] >> yes.
[55:18] >> Council member Hamilton,
[55:19] >> yes.
[55:19] >> Mayor Baker,
[55:20] >> yes.
[55:20] >> Council member Brooks,
[55:21] >> yes.
[55:22] >> Motion carries. That concludes mayoral
[55:24] appointments this evening. Uh we have no
[55:25] city council appointments. I2 is board
[55:27] committee nominations. I have no mayoral
[55:30] nominations and there will be no city
[55:32] council nominations this evening. So we
[55:35] move on. There is a request for close
[55:37] session. I don't feel the need to
[55:39] adjourn into close session based on what
[55:41] was presented. Does anyone feel
[55:43] differently like to move it?
[55:44] >> All right.
[55:47] I4 is a bid waiver GPS system for golf
[55:50] carts and golf courses and that'll be
[55:52] introduced by Allison Leech, our
[55:53] assistant recreation director.
[55:58] Good evening, mayor and council. The
[56:00] item before you is a bid waiver for
[56:02] leasing GPS systems for the golf carts
[56:04] at both Silven Glenn and Sanctuary Lake
[56:06] golf courses. City management recommends
[56:08] waving the bid process and approving a
[56:10] contract with Reach Golfer Reach
[56:12] Golfers, excuse me, of Scottsdale,
[56:15] Arizona in the amount of $25 per month
[56:17] per cart for 48 months or $51,000
[56:21] annually with a onetime shipping fee for
[56:23] the equipment necessary of $1,250
[56:27] per course using Alliance Funding Group
[56:29] for the financing. I'm happy to answer
[56:31] any questions you may have at this time.
[56:33] And I also have Trent Alteri who is the
[56:35] general manager at Silven Glenn with me
[56:36] as well.
[56:37] >> I do know there were questions asked in
[56:39] advance. Typically those are on the
[56:40] table when we get here. I just realized
[56:42] they're not but we did get email copy.
[56:44] Did everyone see those?
[56:45] >> Okay. Did you get your
[56:47] >> I read them briefly and um so I hope I'm
[56:50] not going to repeat myself but yes I
[56:53] >> All right. Did you want to council?
[56:55] >> Yes. So wanted to follow. So they
[56:56] weren't answered in terms of um question
[56:59] by question. they were just kind of
[57:00] summarized. So the couple of the things
[57:02] that I was just trying to get
[57:04] confirmation on is one the system and
[57:07] the reason why I care a lot is you know
[57:08] I come from a golfing family. My grandma
[57:10] she got her hole in one and my grandpa
[57:13] he golfed to the to the um almost the
[57:15] day he died I think because he was
[57:16] trying to get the hole in one trying to
[57:19] uh trying to to meet what grandma did.
[57:21] So um and I'm not a great golfer but um
[57:23] I worked at golf courses. I worked up um
[57:26] at the Highlands on the Ross. That was
[57:28] my summer job growing up. Um, so it was
[57:30] around golf a lot. Um, so I understand
[57:33] we want to be um, we want to be modern.
[57:37] We want to be where the field is going.
[57:40] I think my question was around pace of
[57:42] play and all my question was kind of
[57:43] what's in it for the golfer. I got it
[57:46] from the memo. What's in it for for
[57:48] trune? Um, but what's in it um, health,
[57:51] safety, welfare? What's in it for their
[57:53] experience as a player? And it sounds
[57:55] like there's a lot of great things. Um,
[57:57] even if golfers might use their own
[57:59] apps, there's great things in this. I
[58:02] think that behind that, the question was
[58:04] pace of play. Is it going to create a a
[58:06] stressful system system for players? And
[58:09] I asked that because having worked on
[58:12] like big courses like the Ross at the
[58:14] Highlands where like you want to, you
[58:16] know, it's a private golf course, you
[58:17] want to move a lot of volume, whereas
[58:19] municipal courses, it's about having a
[58:21] good time and not being stressed. I have
[58:24] to keep moving. and if I'm out there
[58:27] takes me forever, you know, I don't want
[58:29] to feel stressed that someone's behind
[58:31] me pushing me along. Um, can you speak
[58:34] to that? Like how it, you know, it won't
[58:36] create undo burden on players.
[58:37] >> Yeah, definitely. So, Trent, you can add
[58:39] anything if you'd like, but I'll try my
[58:40] best. So, pace of play is the number one
[58:43] complaint that we receive at both
[58:46] Sanctuary and Silven Glenn. Um, so that
[58:49] would be like the big component that
[58:51] this takes care of. we would be able to
[58:54] put groups of golfers out there and they
[58:56] would be able to move more efficiently
[58:58] um using the GPS system because we can
[59:00] kind of prompt them if needed. Um if we
[59:02] have more groups ready to start, if
[59:04] they're taking too long at one hole and
[59:06] people are backed up. Um so that's
[59:08] really the big thing. And then that's
[59:10] takes care of a safety issue as well. If
[59:12] there's hazards on the course, if we're
[59:14] too backed up and everyone's hanging out
[59:15] in one area. Um but that that kind of
[59:18] answers your pace of play question, I
[59:20] Well, pace of play, I think, is um
[59:22] really of the sense when you're a really
[59:24] good player. When you're someone like me
[59:26] playing, you don't want to get stressed
[59:28] out that there's all these people behind
[59:29] you. Um and are we going to discourage,
[59:32] you know, those folks from playing? Like
[59:34] how do what will you do in that case
[59:35] when you got
[59:36] >> Yeah, definitely. I'm going to defer to
[59:38] Trent on that question.
[59:39] >> Say what Trent, what do you do now? Like
[59:40] maybe that's a I mean, how would how
[59:42] will this make it better or
[59:43] >> So for for Silven um like we're able to
[59:46] see the bottlenecks. So there's
[59:48] basically three locations, seven and
[59:50] eight backto-back par threes. You go
[59:52] into a long par4 and then 10. So when
[59:54] things get backed up, it's in that area.
[59:56] So we're able to see that from the pro
[59:58] shop. Um and then to add to your um to
[1:00:00] your remarks about pace play, it is our
[1:00:02] number one complaint. Um and we do have
[1:00:04] a wide range of players. You have guys
[1:00:06] that have been playing their entire
[1:00:07] lives. You have firsttime golfers. And
[1:00:09] then so for the first time golfers, they
[1:00:12] may not be aware of pace of play. like
[1:00:14] they may have no idea that it should
[1:00:15] take them four, four and a half hours.
[1:00:18] Um they may be driving on the course and
[1:00:20] get lost. With this GPS, it'll be able
[1:00:22] to navigate them hole by hole, tell them
[1:00:25] where to go. Um and then also you'll be
[1:00:28] able to see in front of you. You can see
[1:00:29] that cart how far it is. Like you're on
[1:00:31] that first te, the person's 100 yards
[1:00:34] out, they're actually 350 yards out. So
[1:00:37] instead of waiting and then people
[1:00:39] behind you get backed up, they're able
[1:00:40] to hit that ball confidently and not
[1:00:42] worry about potentially hitting into
[1:00:44] somebody. So that that's kind of that's
[1:00:46] kind of the main the main thing is being
[1:00:47] able to see um that golfer in front of
[1:00:50] you. You're able to see hazards. So if
[1:00:53] somebody comes to Silver Glenn for the
[1:00:54] first time, there's a creek that runs
[1:00:55] through the course. You can be driving,
[1:00:57] may not know it's there, and you run
[1:00:59] right into it. With that that uh with
[1:01:01] the uh the GPS, you're able to visually
[1:01:03] see that. Um and on top of that there's
[1:01:06] also um the geo fencing part of it. So
[1:01:09] that's how we're able to protect the
[1:01:11] turf for Silven Glenn. There's no cart
[1:01:13] pass. So we'll be able to potentially
[1:01:16] let carts out maybe in early March
[1:01:19] instead of the end of March or April
[1:01:21] just because we're able to protect
[1:01:22] certain areas of the course that flood.
[1:01:24] Um so that that's kind of the main
[1:01:27] aspects of the of the technology.
[1:01:29] >> That's really helpful. I think when one
[1:01:31] of the questions I'd asked is, you know,
[1:01:32] what about other courses that you run in
[1:01:34] Michigan and you gave some examples and
[1:01:37] how golfers um their feedback on the
[1:01:40] technology, the GPS, I think they're
[1:01:42] very happy, right?
[1:01:43] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I know the one
[1:01:44] that's in uh it's PCAT. They they do use
[1:01:47] a GPS, not the same exact one. Um
[1:01:50] there's a course in uh Noblesville,
[1:01:52] Indiana, that's part of Tron Purgatory.
[1:01:54] Um used to be a top 100 golf course.
[1:01:56] They've been using it um for the past 3
[1:01:58] months. I've reached out to that general
[1:01:59] manager and he has not a single
[1:02:01] complaint at all. So, it's it's worked.
[1:02:03] perfect. Um, no issues at
[1:02:05] all. Um, so yeah,
[1:02:07] >> and what I do like for health, safety,
[1:02:09] welfare, you know, a golfer, especially
[1:02:11] if you're new or you're slow like me,
[1:02:13] you could see you can see kind of where
[1:02:15] folks are in front of you. So, it kind
[1:02:16] of gives you, as you said, um, just
[1:02:18] being careful when you tee off. And so,
[1:02:20] I I do see there can be
[1:02:22] >> correct. Yeah. And and we are definitely
[1:02:23] not we're not trying to police the
[1:02:26] course. We're not trying to like be rude
[1:02:28] about it like like simply people may not
[1:02:30] know. Um so we're able to see that log
[1:02:32] jam drive out there and obviously we'll
[1:02:35] have our customer service in place and
[1:02:37] train our staff on how to handle those
[1:02:39] sorts of situations. They can be
[1:02:40] delicate sometimes. Um but definitely
[1:02:43] we're able to address the issue before
[1:02:46] it becomes a bigger issue with uh with
[1:02:49] the technology that we'll have like in
[1:02:50] the in the pro shop.
[1:02:52] >> Okay. Excellent. Thank you.
[1:02:53] >> Yeah.
[1:02:54] Council um So this GPS system approve
[1:02:59] it. When would you guys have it
[1:03:00] operational?
[1:03:02] >> Uh yeah, we've been in talks. So um if
[1:03:04] it is approved today, um I can I believe
[1:03:07] we'll start the process by the end of
[1:03:09] this month, end of July.
[1:03:10] >> July.
[1:03:11] >> So they'll they'll come out, they'll
[1:03:12] geoence the course. They'll map
[1:03:14] everything out. Um mark any hazards,
[1:03:16] bunkers, map the entire thing. Um the
[1:03:19] install should take hopefully two to
[1:03:22] three days. um because they're they're
[1:03:23] going to have to navigate our normal
[1:03:25] busy play and and maybe do like a
[1:03:27] morning afternoon sort of thing. Um but
[1:03:30] yeah, we're discussion was the end of
[1:03:32] July.
[1:03:32] >> Then do you need people to test it?
[1:03:35] >> Mark, [laughter] no.
[1:03:37] >> You can be my volunteer.
[1:03:39] >> The answer is no. He cannot be your
[1:03:40] volunt.
[1:03:40] >> Got it. Some of us have learned lessons
[1:03:43] about that. So we don't do that.
[1:03:45] [laughter]
[1:03:45] >> Uh any other questions? Someone want to
[1:03:49] move the resolution?
[1:03:51] Council Chamberlain,
[1:03:52] >> I'll move it. Um, I move I4 bid waiver
[1:03:56] GPS system for golf carts at golf
[1:03:58] courses as printed in the agenda packet.
[1:04:02] >> Moved by council member Chamberlain,
[1:04:03] supported by council member Hamilton
[1:04:04] that we approve I4 bid waiver GPS system
[1:04:06] for golf carts at golf courses as
[1:04:08] printed in the agenda packet. Any
[1:04:10] discussion?
[1:04:11] >> Council member Hamilton.
[1:04:12] >> I mean, driving to council today, the
[1:04:15] Silvin was bumping as always, as has
[1:04:17] been for 100 years. Ever since COVID,
[1:04:20] golf rounds have gone way up and it's
[1:04:24] great to improve the experience because
[1:04:26] they're a great asset to our city.
[1:04:28] >> For sure.
[1:04:30] >> I was just going to say a lightarted
[1:04:32] note. Um I'm inspired. Maybe I just I
[1:04:34] need to get out and start start golfing
[1:04:35] again. [laughter]
[1:04:37] >> There we go.
[1:04:38] >> Well, now you'll have GPS to help.
[1:04:41] >> Hold on a second. Cash. Well, if you
[1:04:43] could GPS golf balls because so often
[1:04:45] I'm driving down square lake and the
[1:04:47] balls are shooting at me at my car. But
[1:04:49] we'll work on that. Right.
[1:04:51] >> Yeah. Got over to help.
[1:04:52] >> And just to brag about a Troy resident,
[1:04:54] um Troy firefighter Brad Williams, an
[1:04:56] old friend of mine, he got a hole in one
[1:04:58] on uh hole seven at Silven Glenn. So, a
[1:05:01] couple years ago. So, hey, very
[1:05:03] exciting.
[1:05:04] >> Anything?
[1:05:05] >> No. [laughter]
[1:05:07] >> No one said it all. Excited.
[1:05:08] >> It's exciting. Oh, my computer. Uh the
[1:05:11] vote was six. Council member Gun.
[1:05:13] >> Yes.
[1:05:13] >> Council member Hamilton,
[1:05:14] >> yes.
[1:05:15] >> Mayor Baker,
[1:05:16] >> uh, yeah.
[1:05:16] >> Council member Brooks,
[1:05:17] >> yes.
[1:05:18] >> Council member Chamberlain,
[1:05:19] >> yes.
[1:05:21] >> Still feels motion carries. [laughter]
[1:05:24] >> All right. Thank you. Good to see you,
[1:05:26] Trent.
[1:05:26] >> Thank you.
[1:05:27] >> Uh, next up, I5 fiscal year 2026 budget
[1:05:30] amendments. That'll be introduced by Rob
[1:05:31] Malik, our chief financial officer.
[1:05:34] >> Good evening, council mayor. Um, nice to
[1:05:36] be with you guys again. This is the 2026
[1:05:40] final week and we have an amendment as
[1:05:42] we always do and so we're asking you to
[1:05:44] approve the budget amendment for the end
[1:05:47] of the fiscal year 2026. What's in there
[1:05:50] this year are items mainly that you know
[1:05:53] about in the general fund. We had the uh
[1:05:56] settlement of the lawsuit with the
[1:05:58] homebuilders case that settled. So
[1:06:00] that's 625,000 of the budget amendment.
[1:06:03] The other $250,000 is in the recreation
[1:06:06] area and it's primarily for TFAC which
[1:06:09] you're well aware of. Um some of the
[1:06:11] costs we've had over there including
[1:06:13] water costs, some electrical work done
[1:06:16] in the banquet center and a few other
[1:06:19] smaller items in recreation. So that's
[1:06:21] um $875,000
[1:06:24] for the general fund. Then we also have
[1:06:27] for CDBG we have some additional U bowl
[1:06:30] and park costs that will be 100%
[1:06:32] reimbured. And I should back up to the
[1:06:34] general fund we found offsetting
[1:06:36] revenue. So there's nothing coming out
[1:06:38] of our fund balance and that those
[1:06:40] revenues would be um for our LCSA which
[1:06:44] is our local community stabilization
[1:06:46] authority payment. Each year we have
[1:06:48] more we got more money in from the state
[1:06:50] that we than what we budgeted and also
[1:06:52] we have um another good year with the
[1:06:55] interest rate favorable interest rates.
[1:06:57] So that's also going to offset the
[1:06:59] additional expenditures. CDBG is for
[1:07:02] Bolan Park and again that's going to be
[1:07:04] 100% reimbured by the feds. And lastly,
[1:07:07] we have $10,000.
[1:07:09] And we had more um snow removal this
[1:07:12] year than we did in the uh than we
[1:07:14] budgeted, and we'll be getting that
[1:07:16] money from Amtrak. So, um again, all
[1:07:19] these will be covered by revenue, but we
[1:07:21] need these um passed by council. So, we
[1:07:24] um are in compliance of the budget,
[1:07:27] state budget law. Any questions?
[1:07:29] >> Thank you. Any questions? Council member
[1:07:30] Hamilton,
[1:07:31] >> just a comment. A happy fiscal new year
[1:07:33] on
[1:07:33] >> Thank you. Yeah. Can't wait to celebrate
[1:07:35] with an audit.
[1:07:38] >> Any other questions?
[1:07:41] >> Uh, I'll move I5 fiscal year 2026 budget
[1:07:44] amendments as printed in the agenda
[1:07:45] packet.
[1:07:46] >> Support.
[1:07:46] >> Moved by chair, supported by council
[1:07:47] member Gun that we approve I5 fiscal
[1:07:49] year 2026 budget amendments as printed
[1:07:51] in the agenda packet. Any discussion?
[1:07:55] Just thankful to see the offsets and
[1:07:56] that although there's increases here,
[1:07:58] they're being covered by existing funds
[1:08:00] essentially. So, thank you. Vote, Miss
[1:08:02] Dixon.
[1:08:03] >> Council member Hamilton. Yes.
[1:08:04] >> Mayor Baker.
[1:08:05] >> Yes.
[1:08:05] >> Council member Brooks.
[1:08:06] >> Yes.
[1:08:07] >> Council member Chamberlain.
[1:08:08] >> Yes.
[1:08:08] >> Council member Gun.
[1:08:09] >> Yes. Motion carries.
[1:08:10] >> Thank you, Mayor and Council.
[1:08:11] >> Thanks, Rob. That concludes regular
[1:08:13] business. Next up is the consent agenda,
[1:08:15] including the late submitt of J2B.
[1:08:18] Anyone like to move an item remove an
[1:08:19] item from the consent agenda for further
[1:08:21] discussion? Council member Hamilton.
[1:08:23] >> I'd like to move all items on on the
[1:08:25] consent agenda as printed in the agenda
[1:08:27] packet, including the J2B uh late middle
[1:08:30] >> support. Moved by Council Member
[1:08:32] Hamilton, supported by Council Member
[1:08:33] Brooks, that we approve all items on the
[1:08:35] consent agenda, including the late
[1:08:37] submitt of J2B.
[1:08:39] Um, did I say as the rest printed in the
[1:08:42] agenda packet? I don't know if I did.
[1:08:44] I'm repeating myself. Uh, any
[1:08:46] discussion? Council member Chamberlain.
[1:08:48] >> Thank you, Mayor. Um I did want to call
[1:08:50] out I believe it's J5 um that is from
[1:08:54] Clerk Dixon her office um requesting we
[1:08:57] always need to do that a satellite um
[1:08:59] office and then it also lists the um
[1:09:03] various kind of sequence of you know
[1:09:06] everything you're doing with elections
[1:09:07] coming up with our our primary election
[1:09:09] coming up and then of course with the
[1:09:11] general election and I'm sure my
[1:09:12] colleagues may ask you to go over some
[1:09:14] of that but wanted to call out to
[1:09:16] residents you can find all of that um
[1:09:19] when absentee ballots are are available
[1:09:22] um and early voting and all that.
[1:09:24] There's a nice list of the dates there.
[1:09:26] Um I did want to ask maybe I missed it
[1:09:29] here. Do we need to um does this cover
[1:09:31] also the general clerk Dixon or do we
[1:09:34] also have to prove the satellite office
[1:09:35] for the um the general election?
[1:09:37] >> Um we'll bring it back to you for the
[1:09:40] general just to have another recap with
[1:09:42] all of the dates and everything for the
[1:09:43] November election. Um it's always a good
[1:09:45] idea to bring that back. So, it's a good
[1:09:47] excuse to do that.
[1:09:48] >> Excellent. Thank you.
[1:09:51] >> Any further discussion?
[1:09:52] >> Vote. Miss Dixon.
[1:09:54] >> Mayor Baker.
[1:09:54] >> Yes.
[1:09:55] >> Council member Brooks.
[1:09:56] >> Yes.
[1:09:56] >> Council member Chamberlain.
[1:09:58] >> Yes.
[1:09:58] >> Council member Gun.
[1:09:59] >> Yes.
[1:09:59] >> Council member Hamilton.
[1:10:00] >> Yes. Motion carries. If you're here for
[1:10:02] an item on the consent agenda, all have
[1:10:03] been approved.
[1:10:05] >> Uh, there are no memorandums. Excuse me.
[1:10:08] There are no memorandums in future
[1:10:10] council agenda items this evening.
[1:10:12] Nobody has signed up for public comment
[1:10:13] for items not on the agenda from Troy
[1:10:15] residents and businesses. So, no need
[1:10:16] for reply. There is no or there are no
[1:10:19] council referrals this evening. Anyone
[1:10:21] like to make any comments on any of the
[1:10:24] reports? Council member Chamberlain.
[1:10:26] >> Thank you, Mayor. So, I'd like to
[1:10:28] comment on
[1:10:30] O2A, the Rochester Road widening. Um, in
[1:10:35] it, talks about the delays. I believe
[1:10:38] it's um six months if that's correct.
[1:10:41] and a couple of options. Um, we're
[1:10:45] trying to work, it sounds like, with the
[1:10:47] contractor to either get additional
[1:10:49] support in to be able to complete this
[1:10:51] as soon as possible or there's a
[1:10:54] potential to move into the next
[1:10:57] construction year because um, mid-
[1:10:59] November all construction uh, basically
[1:11:02] ceases because uh, it gets so cold in
[1:11:04] Michigan.
[1:11:05] and they try to limit the impact of
[1:11:07] course on um you know on businesses in
[1:11:10] the area. I went out there last week. It
[1:11:14] just um I hadn't really you know had a
[1:11:16] chance to go out and and talk with
[1:11:17] businesses to see how folks are doing
[1:11:20] but um businesses are impacted. Um I
[1:11:23] went into one small business and they
[1:11:26] said dining is it's non-existent right
[1:11:27] now for them. Another one, the Matcha
[1:11:30] Michael Cafe, they're doing okay. They
[1:11:32] have a very loyal base. um the gentleman
[1:11:36] said and you know he feels very grateful
[1:11:38] for that but Jets Pizza for example also
[1:11:40] they've seen a a pretty significant um
[1:11:43] decline. So in my mind if there is a way
[1:11:47] to move um you know sooner the better to
[1:11:50] lessen the impact on businesses. My
[1:11:53] understanding and maybe this could be
[1:11:55] summarized is the holdup is with the
[1:11:56] utilities that this project um is not
[1:12:00] just us widening but there are private
[1:12:02] utility companies that are um do like
[1:12:04] what from wow to um you know internet I
[1:12:07] use wow service um others doing fiber
[1:12:10] optics and the coordination and and some
[1:12:13] of them they've been slow moving and
[1:12:14] they're holding up the project that's
[1:12:16] some of what I read in this memo and
[1:12:17] maybe we can get a clarification on that
[1:12:20] but um just the question I would ask
[1:12:23] with that is how likely between those
[1:12:25] two scenarios from what I recall in the
[1:12:28] memo there's kind of two options where
[1:12:29] we what do we think is going to happen
[1:12:32] and then I think the second thing is
[1:12:33] regardless
[1:12:35] could we do is there anything on the
[1:12:37] city side we could do to have more
[1:12:38] signage so I've noticed going into those
[1:12:41] entryways
[1:12:43] they're very tiny and you almost don't
[1:12:45] think it is an entryway and um it
[1:12:48] becomes complicated as someone's trying
[1:12:50] to um exit and and enter at the same
[1:12:52] time and you know could there be um
[1:12:55] whether the contractors put something up
[1:12:57] or just to be kind of clear um and then
[1:13:01] I don't know what is precedent for a
[1:13:03] city or whether that's working with the
[1:13:05] chamber of commerce to have like open
[1:13:06] for business signs to be very clear to
[1:13:08] people that um or to drive people
[1:13:11] driving by that you know these business
[1:13:12] they are open they are open um and you
[1:13:16] know what we could do and even social
[1:13:18] media um again maybe this is a
[1:13:20] collaboration with the chamber And I I
[1:13:22] would look to you, mayor, because you're
[1:13:23] so heavily involved with the chamber,
[1:13:25] something we can do to highlight um and
[1:13:27] just emphasize that, you know, open for
[1:13:30] business and really have a shop
[1:13:32] Rochester kind of um emphasis. So, a lot
[1:13:35] of questions I put out there from
[1:13:37] economic development to um to actual to
[1:13:40] the construction kind of engineering
[1:13:42] thing. So, like to hear more if
[1:13:44] possible.
[1:13:45] >> Yeah. Can I ask actually a follow-up
[1:13:47] question to that along along these
[1:13:48] lines? I mean the memo is very clear
[1:13:49] that there's some options that are
[1:13:51] looked at. It [clears throat]
[1:13:55] what would it take to work on
[1:13:57] accelerating this or I mean we can't
[1:14:00] funding's one thing, private utility
[1:14:02] companies are one thing. Is there is
[1:14:03] there something we can do to help um and
[1:14:07] what does that look like?
[1:14:08] >> Well, there's a lot of questions you ask
[1:14:10] different things. So um as far as um
[1:14:13] work on signage, of course we can look
[1:14:15] at that. look at what options we have.
[1:14:18] Of course, we want to help the
[1:14:19] businesses um the best we can. Um any
[1:14:23] future closures, I've had discussions
[1:14:25] with staff. We're going to do some hand
[1:14:27] deliveries and and make sure we reach
[1:14:29] out to individual b businesses to give
[1:14:32] them as much leeway as possible and make
[1:14:35] sure it's communicated out to them. But
[1:14:37] as far as the options that came from
[1:14:39] HRC, I know we have our city engineer
[1:14:42] Scott Finley here. I'd ask him to come
[1:14:44] up real quick and maybe um answer a
[1:14:47] little bit more on the options portion.
[1:14:57] » Good evening, Mayor Council.
[1:14:59] Um yeah, I mean our biggest hold up to
[1:15:02] start with with DTE. They have to move
[1:15:04] all the poles and move first and they
[1:15:06] kind of move from top down. they were
[1:15:09] the biggest hold up that kind of domino
[1:15:12] effect on all the other utilities. I
[1:15:13] mean currently right now Comcast is the
[1:15:16] hold up uh they don't want to cut their
[1:15:19] they have a limited window nationwide
[1:15:22] policy right now because the World Cup's
[1:15:24] going on
[1:15:25] >> to put people out of service. So they
[1:15:27] need to do fiber transfers before they
[1:15:29] can move off the poles moving the poles
[1:15:31] out of the way that are in where the
[1:15:32] roadway is going to go. So,
[1:15:36] we don't have a clear schedule yet as to
[1:15:38] when all the utilities are going to be
[1:15:39] clear.
[1:15:41] We're pushing and hoping that it'll be
[1:15:44] by the end of July. And at that time, we
[1:15:47] can sit down with Dan and they can
[1:15:48] actually lay out a schedule as to what
[1:15:50] it's going to take to complete this
[1:15:52] project by mid November or what kind of
[1:15:55] shape can we get it in by no mid
[1:15:57] November and extend a few things over to
[1:16:00] next season. So until we have a good
[1:16:02] date from the utilities, you know, we
[1:16:05] can't really work, you know, we have an
[1:16:07] idea, but we need that util a clear date
[1:16:10] from utilities is being moved. Um, you
[1:16:14] know, accelerating the the project is
[1:16:16] not a federally funded thing. So that
[1:16:19] would be a city expense. If we want them
[1:16:22] to work 12 hours a day, if we want them
[1:16:24] to bring in 100 more people and get this
[1:16:25] done, those extra costs would be 100%
[1:16:28] the city's responsibility.
[1:16:31] the federal tax dollars pay for the road
[1:16:33] improvements. They don't pay for the
[1:16:35] utility delays and then us incentivizing
[1:16:38] the contractor to get get it done on
[1:16:41] time.
[1:16:42] So,
[1:16:44] we're just trying to forewarn council
[1:16:46] that, you know, come about September, we
[1:16:48] might have some of these decisions to
[1:16:49] make.
[1:16:51] Uh Dan's, you know, the contractor's
[1:16:53] original schedule, all of the northbound
[1:16:56] lanes should have been done June 1st. We
[1:16:58] should be working on the southbound side
[1:17:00] right now. Now, looking at their
[1:17:02] schedule, it's laid out from one day to
[1:17:05] the end through November. Are there
[1:17:07] opportunities where we can do things
[1:17:09] concurrent? Like, you know, the other
[1:17:10] the guy was talking. Yeah, there's going
[1:17:12] to be some opportunities that we think
[1:17:14] we can pick up a few weeks, but a few
[1:17:17] weeks in in November, you don't get as
[1:17:19] much daylight. It takes longer to cure.
[1:17:21] So, we might not make as much progress,
[1:17:24] but every day will help.
[1:17:28] While I have you there, what's the
[1:17:30] update on the Long Lake and Rochester
[1:17:31] Road closure? Any Are we on schedule
[1:17:33] with that?
[1:17:34] >> We We're currently on schedule for that
[1:17:36] one. So, that one's scheduled for 3-week
[1:17:38] closure and we are on schedule to meet
[1:17:40] that.
[1:17:40] >> Okay. Council member G.
[1:17:43] >> Um to my comment top of Rebecca's is if there can't be any additional social
[1:17:49] media or any more marketing because yeah
[1:17:52] the signs are good but a lot of people
[1:17:54] are avoiding Rochester road because of
[1:17:56] the obvious congestion. I've already
[1:17:58] seen McV's closed non closed. Uh El
[1:18:01] Gaster I'm sure there's going to be more
[1:18:03] that follow because people just aren't
[1:18:05] using the road you know. So we can see a
[1:18:07] glut of uh closed down businesses.
[1:18:10] I agree.
[1:18:13] >> Books
[1:18:13] >> and I would just add, you know, like
[1:18:14] Gillies is there as well, ice cream, and
[1:18:16] I felt bad. They put a a post on social
[1:18:19] media and they're seasonal. So, their
[1:18:22] high season is right now. And so,
[1:18:24] without them having the business right
[1:18:25] now, that makes it very very difficult
[1:18:27] for them throughout the rest of the
[1:18:28] year. So, I just I really really am
[1:18:31] concerned about the businesses in
[1:18:33] general in that area.
[1:18:37] » Chamber,
[1:18:37] >> just a follow-up question. um city
[1:18:39] engineer uh Finley
[1:18:41] in terms of the decision-m I understand
[1:18:43] that's a lot of an administrative
[1:18:45] decision is there to decide if if there
[1:18:48] is you know the budget to be able to
[1:18:50] expedite and if it makes sense with
[1:18:52] timing it sounds like it could be that
[1:18:54] even if we tried that we still might run
[1:18:57] into a time where the roads aren't going
[1:18:59] to cure in the way that we need them to
[1:19:02] is there a way for us to be kept in the
[1:19:03] loop to be able at some point when you
[1:19:05] know more whether it's through a Q&A um
[1:19:07] is just on a weekly update to just so
[1:19:10] we're a breast of things and um in you
[1:19:13] know in the know of what all you guys
[1:19:15] are learning with this.
[1:19:17] >> Yeah, I think that's fair enough. We
[1:19:18] have bi-weekly progress meetings on
[1:19:21] Wednesday. So I think the timing you
[1:19:23] know when we get that update moving
[1:19:25] forward because you know there may be
[1:19:27] some significant decisions for you to
[1:19:29] make you know and that's why we wanted
[1:19:31] to come out now and kind of give you an
[1:19:33] update that there should some things to
[1:19:36] think about. So I we'll make a note and
[1:19:38] after our progress meeting I'll send
[1:19:40] something the city manager to send out
[1:19:42] in the Q&A every two weeks.
[1:19:45] >> Thank you.
[1:19:46] >> I think the other component so
[1:19:48] >> we we will we can talk to the chamber
[1:19:51] too about my originally their their
[1:19:55] thought was well we only promote chamber
[1:19:58] businesses which I understand that
[1:20:00] concept. I made the counter argument,
[1:20:02] well, your chamber businesses will do
[1:20:04] better if all city businesses are also
[1:20:06] doing well. It kind of works across the
[1:20:07] board. So, I think we can work a little
[1:20:09] bit with that. My my other concern
[1:20:11] obviously is
[1:20:13] I've been telling people for as long as
[1:20:15] I could that it'll be primarily done by
[1:20:17] November. So, don't worry if we get
[1:20:19] through this year and this businesses,
[1:20:20] residents. Um, and I I don't think it's
[1:20:24] just about social media. Um, and it can
[1:20:28] be, but I I want to make sure the
[1:20:30] businesses in the area understand if
[1:20:32] there is when we know that things are
[1:20:34] not like or even now we should probably
[1:20:36] be talking to them about there's a
[1:20:37] chance. I mean, we're doing it publicly
[1:20:38] right now, but you know, I I want I
[1:20:40] don't want any surprises in the fall for
[1:20:42] the business community or residents
[1:20:44] along that area to learn that it's a
[1:20:46] whole another season. They're going to
[1:20:48] have to deal with this. So, um, that's
[1:20:50] not a Scott Finley comment so much in as
[1:20:53] much as city management, but
[1:20:54] >> I think the second season if it does
[1:20:56] push over, I we'd have two lanes
[1:20:59] completed on the southbound side and all
[1:21:02] the side street approaches and the
[1:21:03] businesses. So, you know, the access
[1:21:05] would be
[1:21:06] >> a lot easier. Your your left lane and
[1:21:09] the turnarounds would be the part that
[1:21:12] are going to be iffy.
[1:21:14] >> Okay. Still though,
[1:21:16] >> yeah,
[1:21:16] >> I hate to have it also look like a war
[1:21:18] zone through all of winter. I think
[1:21:19] that's the other
[1:21:21] >> It's not looking great right now as it
[1:21:23] is um as you drive through, but uh any
[1:21:26] other comments?
[1:21:31] » I can't remember where we are. Here we
[1:21:32] are. Okay. Uh and no other comments on
[1:21:34] any of the other reports.
[1:21:37] >> How about council comments? I won't skip
[1:21:39] those this week. Council Hamilton,
[1:21:41] >> um congrats to the Troy Cowboys for 70
[1:21:44] years. It's hard to believe they've been
[1:21:45] around that long. I growing up they were
[1:21:48] always here. I think one or two of my
[1:21:50] nephews were on them for a while. Um I
[1:21:52] just asked them, can they train some
[1:21:54] Lions defensive backs cuz they really
[1:21:56] need them badly. Um so anyway, um but
[1:21:59] also I have some amazing personal news
[1:22:02] to share. Um couple weeks ago was at
[1:22:06] work and got a call from my wife that
[1:22:08] she found out that our foster daughter
[1:22:10] Kiki um her adoption was finalized. And
[1:22:14] so, you know, my family is now complete
[1:22:16] and that's done. And it it was an
[1:22:19] amazing thing. It felt like the day my
[1:22:21] do first daughter was born. So, it it's
[1:22:24] a great news to share and we're going to
[1:22:25] Disney World in 3 weeks to celebrate.
[1:22:27] So,
[1:22:28] >> I'll have to won the Super Bowl.
[1:22:31] >> I'll have to remote into that council
[1:22:33] meeting, but it's for a good purpose
[1:22:34] because Yeah.
[1:22:36] >> Very good. Congratulations, David. That is good news. I know it's a long
[1:22:40] process, long history. So, Oh, yeah.
[1:22:42] Well deserved.
[1:22:44] >> Additional council comments. Council
[1:22:45] gun.
[1:22:46] >> Um well, first just to kind of
[1:22:48] reiterate, remember our 250 celebration
[1:22:51] Wednesday is moving inside Detroit
[1:22:53] Community Center. So hopefully we get a
[1:22:55] big attendance for that. Um I
[1:22:57] congratulations Dave. That's good news.
[1:23:00] Um I just also I want to call out Frank
[1:23:03] and your staff. I know we bombard you. I
[1:23:06] see all the questions. I get them. We
[1:23:08] all get them. We get them to you guys.
[1:23:11] And I appreciate you being regular about
[1:23:14] getting information so we can get it
[1:23:15] back to the citizens because it's a lot
[1:23:17] of stuff that comes at us and uh I
[1:23:19] really appreciate that. I also want to
[1:23:22] recognize as you know Fourth of July
[1:23:24] this is a big one for all of us. Um I'm
[1:23:27] very thankful to to live in Troy and and
[1:23:30] all the diversity we have and that I
[1:23:32] hope everybody has a very safe 4th of
[1:23:34] July. I want to thank uh I know the
[1:23:37] police, fire, public works are all going
[1:23:39] to be working extra hard to make sure
[1:23:40] we're all enjoying a safe holiday and u
[1:23:44] just very thankful to be an American and
[1:23:47] I say that as a Native American. Okay.
[1:23:49] So [laughter] very thankful. So hope you
[1:23:53] all have a good Fourth of July.
[1:23:54] >> You too
[1:23:56] Chamberlain.
[1:23:57] >> Thank you, Mayor. Um and
[1:23:59] congratulations, Dave. Uh and and to
[1:24:01] follow what you just shared, Council
[1:24:02] Member Gun. Um, happy happy 250th
[1:24:06] birthday to America. And I always say
[1:24:09] that the heart of America, it's really
[1:24:11] it's in our communities, it's our
[1:24:13] cities, it's our towns, it's our
[1:24:15] villages, it's here in Troy. So, I do
[1:24:17] hope folks will join us um Wednesday. I
[1:24:20] was going to say tomorrow, but that's
[1:24:21] Wednesday inside 5:30 p.m. Mayor, right?
[1:24:24] And there's cake. There's cake for the
[1:24:26] community. So, it's that's beautiful. If
[1:24:29] anything, yeah, come come out. Um but
[1:24:31] it's a very it's it's special on many
[1:24:33] levels. Um I have an ancestor who fought
[1:24:36] in the American Revolution who fought
[1:24:38] for our freedom. Phoeni.
[1:24:41] So um it's it's something that is uh is near and dear to my to my family. We
[1:24:46] don't take uh freedom for granted. Also
[1:24:49] want to remember um fireworks safety. So
[1:24:52] think I want to thank the city for
[1:24:53] putting out some posts in advance. It's
[1:24:55] a reminder that you can only use
[1:24:57] fireworks what is it from June 29th. um
[1:25:00] to July to July 4th um 11:45 p.m. And a
[1:25:05] fun fact, no public places. So that
[1:25:08] means sidewalks and streets. And I was
[1:25:11] thinking where do I where where does my
[1:25:12] family sometimes do some little poppers
[1:25:15] and and such. So it's a reminder no
[1:25:17] public spaces. Um and just to be mindful
[1:25:21] to be safe. Sadly, every year there is
[1:25:24] an un um sadly unwarranted, un tragedy,
[1:25:28] um a loss of life, an injury due to
[1:25:31] unsafe um use of artwork. So, just
[1:25:33] encourage every folks celebrate, but um
[1:25:36] do so safely. And again, happy birthday,
[1:25:38] America.
[1:25:40] >> Council member Brooks.
[1:25:41] >> Thank you, Mayor. Um I also just wanted
[1:25:43] to say um I'm looking forward to the
[1:25:45] America 250 celebration that we will be
[1:25:47] having here in Troy as well. Um, and I
[1:25:50] think it's great that we also get to
[1:25:52] enjoy the farmers market and the summer
[1:25:53] concert series all on the same day.
[1:25:56] Unfortunately, you know, the weather is
[1:25:58] not going to be cooperative, but it's
[1:25:59] it'll still be a wonderful celebration
[1:26:01] and a really gathering for our
[1:26:04] community. That'll be really really
[1:26:05] beautiful. Um, the other thing I wanted
[1:26:08] to point out is the Troy Garden Club is
[1:26:11] having their 51st annual garden walk
[1:26:14] that will be on Wednesday, July 8th. Um,
[1:26:17] you can get tickets online or at the
[1:26:19] Troy Historic Village. And this is
[1:26:21] always a beautiful event where people
[1:26:23] open up their homes where they have
[1:26:24] beautiful gardens and you kind of just
[1:26:26] walk around and you can observe and and
[1:26:28] enjoy that. Um, so that's a wonderful
[1:26:30] event that happens every year. And same
[1:26:33] thing, happy 4th of July everybody. This
[1:26:35] is a very special year for our country
[1:26:38] and I hope everyone is safe and and
[1:26:41] enjoys it. So thank you.
[1:26:43] >> Thank you. I uh
[1:26:46] I often wonder what if I would be the
[1:26:48] opposite of a Troy garden club, try and
[1:26:50] walk the worst looking yard. I thought
[1:26:52] that would be a kind of Stop laughing,
[1:26:54] Kurt. [laughter]
[1:26:56] But uh you know the I wasn't um I'll be
[1:27:00] 47 this year, so I wasn't born when the bsentennial happened in 1976, but
[1:27:05] like I've seen all this amazing footage
[1:27:06] and I think
[1:27:09] like this is a big deal. we celebrate
[1:27:11] these and you know whatever you feel
[1:27:13] about the state of politics or the state
[1:27:16] of some of our leaders on all sides um
[1:27:20] you know we're here in America and we
[1:27:22] are celebrating something it is very
[1:27:24] unique there won't be like I mean I
[1:27:27] could most of us probably won't make it
[1:27:29] to the 300 right [laughter] so you know
[1:27:32] these are these are big monumental times
[1:27:33] and I think it's important that we take
[1:27:35] time to recognize um what we do have in
[1:27:38] common and what we do share in this
[1:27:40] country um and certainly here in the
[1:27:42] city of Troy. Um I'm very proud of our
[1:27:46] city and the community members that we
[1:27:48] have here because I continue to hear and
[1:27:50] see so much of the good that happens um
[1:27:52] in America right here at the city of
[1:27:53] Troy. So um I'm totally disappointed
[1:27:57] that we're moving the event indoors on
[1:27:59] Wednesday night, but it's uh better to
[1:28:01] do that than to have people passing out
[1:28:03] in real field temperatures of 110
[1:28:06] degrees. Even though I offered earlier
[1:28:08] to hose everybody down and see park that wasn't a popular opinion. So maybe
[1:28:13] just council members. We should do that
[1:28:15] for charity. That'd be fun.
[1:28:17] >> Yeah. Right. Yeah.
[1:28:18] >> Yeah. They want the fire truck.
[1:28:19] >> Um we we left them 250 years ago for
[1:28:22] that reason. So no. Um I
[1:28:25] celebrate. Be safe everybody. Um
[1:28:29] I'm
[1:28:31] be mindful of the fireworks regulations
[1:28:33] and laws. be mindful of. Uh not
[1:28:36] everybody loves loud noises outside of
[1:28:38] their homes um at night, whether that's
[1:28:42] kids or pets or um people with neurode
[1:28:45] divergence or just regular people who
[1:28:48] are tired of it as a certain time. But
[1:28:50] celebrate responsibly. Um have a really
[1:28:53] good time. Hope to see a lot of you
[1:28:54] Wednesday evening um at the community
[1:28:57] center at senior center. The um Elton
[1:29:00] John tribute performance is supposed to
[1:29:02] be really really good. uh he's a really
[1:29:05] talented. So um I hope people turn out
[1:29:08] for that and maybe we'll even have
[1:29:09] better attendance because it's indoors
[1:29:10] with air conditioning. That's what I'm
[1:29:12] hoping for. So anyway um that's it. So
[1:29:16] thank you and uh we don't have anyone
[1:29:18] signed up for public comment for items
[1:29:20] on or not on the agenda for members of
[1:29:22] the public outside of Troy. We don't
[1:29:23] have the close session this evening so
[1:29:25] we're adjourned.