1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,760 It is Monday, August 31st, at 6:00 p.m. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,640 I am Jeffrey Wooden. I'm joined tonight 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,960 by Mrs. Westfall. Miss Hickman could not 4 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:10,280 be with us tonight. We have one item on 5 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,640 our agenda. 6 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,640 We are revisiting a recommendation to 7 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,040 council regarding authorizing the 8 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,560 director of public service and safety to 9 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,520 enter into a professional services 10 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,160 services agreement with American 11 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,880 Structure Point for the redesign of 12 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:26,200 phase one and phase three at Duke Park 13 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:28,720 for cost not to exceed $615,000. 14 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,560 This was recommended by the park board. 15 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,760 Mr. Tinnerton, can you give a rehash for 16 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,119 those who may not have been here last 17 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:33,760 week? 18 00:00:32,119 --> 00:00:36,280 » Sure. Thank you, Mr. Chair. You had 19 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:39,600 asked that this go to another committee 20 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:41,480 with the opportunity to look at uh 21 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:44,560 our recommended 22 00:00:41,480 --> 00:00:47,400 proposal, American Structure Point. We 23 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:50,000 did include an amended packet, a revised 24 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:53,120 packet, that proposal. 25 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:55,960 Uh it's fairly straightforward. Um 26 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:58,720 American Structure Point had 27 00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:02,920 drafted a Park and Recreation Master 28 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:04,080 Plan that was adopted by the the park 29 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,080 board. 30 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:08,000 The first priority that they that the 31 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:12,240 council and the Park and Recreation 32 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:13,440 boards decided was to do a deep dive 33 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,160 into 34 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:18,320 the Duke Park and look at any kind of 35 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,960 redesign to make that park more 36 00:01:18,320 --> 00:01:24,200 efficient, especially when it came to 37 00:01:20,960 --> 00:01:25,800 multi-purpose fields as well as baseball 38 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,960 fields 39 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:30,000 while keeping the other amenities that 40 00:01:27,960 --> 00:01:31,720 we have at the park and perhaps 41 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,200 improving some of them. 42 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:38,120 The 2026 budget did include an 43 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:40,960 allocation or does include an allocation 44 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,320 for phase one and phase three. 45 00:01:40,960 --> 00:01:44,640 The 46 00:01:42,320 --> 00:01:47,120 the staff as well as a couple members of 47 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,520 the park board um 48 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:51,600 did um 49 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:54,920 issue a request for qualifications, an 50 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:58,760 RFQ. We received nine different 51 00:01:54,920 --> 00:02:01,240 proposals. They evaluated, scored, uh 52 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:04,400 analyzed and scored those, um 53 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:07,120 interviewed the top five firms that 54 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:09,280 submitted. Uh after that first set of 55 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:12,959 interviews, they narrowed it down to 56 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:15,520 three uh interviews. Um 57 00:02:12,959 --> 00:02:18,640 ultimately, unanimously 58 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:21,240 um recommending to the park board uh 59 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:22,920 American Structural Point, who again had 60 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:26,000 done the um 61 00:02:22,920 --> 00:02:28,240 park and recreation master plan and was 62 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,080 fairly familiar with 63 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:33,680 a lot of the elements and the issues 64 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:35,440 that uh we uh the council is uh trying 65 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,840 to address. 66 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,959 Um it was a unanimous decision of the 67 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:43,280 park board to recommend American 68 00:02:39,959 --> 00:02:46,120 Structural Point. Um the criteria in the 69 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:48,560 ORC RFQs are done a little bit 70 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:51,120 differently than uh 71 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,840 uh construction bidding. 72 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:56,720 Um 73 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:58,880 and uh uh but the criteria is the best 74 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,519 and most qualified. And in doing the 75 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:03,000 scoring, um 76 00:03:00,519 --> 00:03:04,480 the staff and the park board came to the 77 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,920 conclusion that American Structural 78 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:09,640 Point was the uh the best and most 79 00:03:06,920 --> 00:03:13,280 qualified. Uh it is a uh 80 00:03:09,640 --> 00:03:15,640 a big a large firm. It is um it has done 81 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:18,280 other projects for the uh city, 82 00:03:15,640 --> 00:03:21,239 including their work on the UDC. The 83 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:23,400 project team is in the uh 84 00:03:21,239 --> 00:03:26,200 uh the project team uh 85 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:28,080 that is being proposed for uh from 86 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:32,239 Structural Point to do this project is 87 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:33,600 not uh the same lead on the uh on the 88 00:03:32,239 --> 00:03:36,720 UDC 89 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:39,640 uh zoning sign. It's uh and uh 90 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:42,320 uh subdivision regulations primarily. Um 91 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:44,519 and so they are separate divisions. 92 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:47,560 Um there's uh leadership overlap, of 93 00:03:44,519 --> 00:03:49,400 course, but um the um 94 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:52,680 uh the the daily 95 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:55,240 uh and the the front line uh folks are 96 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:58,280 are different as well. You did mention 97 00:03:55,240 --> 00:04:00,680 615,000. That's what the That's what 98 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:03,120 Structural Point estimated. That's the 99 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:07,440 number that they gave us. 100 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:10,880 And phase two would be to for the 101 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:12,640 council to look at the design and then 102 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,280 authorize creating construction 103 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,880 documents so that we can go to the next 104 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:20,079 step. Why it went phase one, three, and 105 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:21,720 then two, I don't know. I 106 00:04:20,079 --> 00:04:23,680 not sure why they they did it that way, 107 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,760 but that that is the way. 108 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:29,000 Um 109 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:31,080 We are not asking for emergency 110 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,280 legislation. 111 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:35,560 » Uh I asked Mr. Davis last week, but the 112 00:04:33,280 --> 00:04:36,800 rough time that would be 8 months that 113 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,000 would they would be in the design phase 114 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,360 before we would see anything back. And 115 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,320 after that point in time, would we have 116 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,320 public hearings on the design to allow 117 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,040 the public input on what they they came 118 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,840 up with? 119 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,440 » Uh you could. 120 00:04:46,840 --> 00:04:48,960 Um 121 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,480 you know, it 122 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:53,360 Whatever would come back to the to the 123 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,919 committee, if that's committee of the 124 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:57,720 whole, if it's this committee, that's up 125 00:04:55,919 --> 00:04:59,960 to the president of council, but that 126 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:02,720 would be an opportunity to 127 00:04:59,960 --> 00:05:05,120 uh unveil all the designs and then get 128 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,600 some as much as input as you'd like to 129 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,840 get. 130 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,960 » Okay. 131 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:08,880 Uh Mr. Westfall, do you have any 132 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,880 follow-up questions? 133 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,600 » Was my concern whether we would get 134 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,000 public input. 135 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,440 » Uh do any other members of council have 136 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:18,040 any questions? 137 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:21,080 Do any members of the public have any 138 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,040 questions or comments? 139 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,600 Please come forward. Name and address, 140 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,600 please. 141 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:30,720 » Dana Schilling, uh 1 West Franklin 142 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:33,360 Street, Troy, Ohio. 143 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:36,960 Um I just want to say I mean, I think 144 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:39,640 it's you got wonderful parks in out at 145 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:41,919 Duke already. I've had grandkids playing 146 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:46,240 ball, soccer, 147 00:05:41,919 --> 00:05:49,600 dogs in the park, and all that stuff. 148 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:52,680 You know what you don't have is the Troy 149 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:57,280 Park that anybody that comes to town and 150 00:05:52,680 --> 00:06:00,080 might meander around sees. The Troy Park 151 00:05:57,280 --> 00:06:01,280 needs some work. To spend more money at 152 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,080 Duke 153 00:06:01,280 --> 00:06:07,480 before you do anything to the play 154 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:09,640 equipment at the main park is is kind of 155 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,960 I just kind of silly. 156 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:14,600 For one thing, even if you before I said 157 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,840 even if you just fix the surfacing 158 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,800 I don't know if you've ever been to 159 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:22,240 Vandalia, to Sydney, to 160 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:25,160 Springfield all of those have like a 161 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:28,320 a foam I can't I it's not foam but it's 162 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:31,040 kind of a soft material. 163 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:34,760 Um or they have turf. 164 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:36,760 This isn't even handicap accessible in 165 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,120 in um 166 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,880 that 167 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:42,400 wood chip stuff. 168 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:44,760 Um I think you ought to consider at 169 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:49,040 least if you can't afford playground 170 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:51,480 equipment fix the surfacing where 171 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,960 the kids are playing so it's a 172 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,360 uh you know, you get tired of coming 173 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,960 home with your grandkids or great 174 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:58,200 grandkids with 175 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:01,919 all these wood chips all over them and 176 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:03,240 it's just a mess. So, would you consider 177 00:07:01,919 --> 00:07:05,000 doing something with that? 178 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,919 » So, you said Troy Park. Do you mean 179 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,080 Community Park? 180 00:07:05,919 --> 00:07:09,280 » The municipal park Troy Park. 181 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,720 » All right. Across from uh Hobart Arena. 182 00:07:09,280 --> 00:07:14,400 » Right. That one. Yeah. The municipal 183 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:19,240 » So, um there is funding in this year's 184 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:21,919 budget. Uh we recently replaced the 185 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,960 playground equipment at Duke Park last 186 00:07:21,919 --> 00:07:25,560 year. 187 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:28,480 Uh we are replacing Community Park's 188 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:33,080 playground equipment this year which 189 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:36,640 will also include a um a turf surface 190 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:37,720 uh underneath it. So, that all will be 191 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,560 upgraded. 192 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:42,560 » For both sides of that then? 193 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:44,160 » Uh I haven't seen the whole footprint 194 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,560 and and what it's going to look like but 195 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,440 it'll be a different configuration and 196 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:52,320 so you know 197 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:54,280 I there's one amenity that that 198 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,560 everyone wanted to keep out there as 199 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,720 part of the playground equipment but 200 00:07:55,560 --> 00:08:00,560 everything else is being replaced. It 201 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,320 will be ADA accessible and it will have 202 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:01,800 the uh 203 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,560 » Okay. 204 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,880 » The turf surface. 205 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,600 » And at some point in time you were 206 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,400 talking about putting a splash pad in. I 207 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:13,120 can't think of a better place to put a 208 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:14,120 splash pad in than at the municipal park 209 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,440 where 210 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:18,440 kids that don't have a lot of money 211 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,880 they they live close by they can ride 212 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:24,280 their bicycles and just come by splash 213 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:25,960 and wet like today would be great. But 214 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:28,240 you know there's plenty of room in that 215 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:31,080 area to do that too. 216 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:32,440 And still not involve the you know if 217 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,880 you want to play frisbee or something I 218 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,840 don't think it's going to bother that 219 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:38,360 but well thanks for that. I'm glad 220 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:41,000 you're considering it. Would you please 221 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:43,080 make a trip down to Vandalia especially 222 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,960 down behind Kroger's the brand new one 223 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:48,400 they put in and see that has a splash 224 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:51,080 pad but it also has the 225 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:53,120 uh I think it has turf there. And that 226 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:55,240 healthy school is another one that would 227 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:58,200 really be good to research so you can 228 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:59,200 see what they're doing and thank you. 229 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,839 » Thank you. 230 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:04,000 » We still are waiting uh the final park 231 00:09:01,839 --> 00:09:06,120 and recreation master plan uh to come in 232 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,920 from uh the park board that needs to go 233 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,200 to them first with all the amenities. If 234 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:12,040 you guys recall I'm sure many of you 235 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:13,320 filled out the survey last summer. Uh 236 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,080 they're still working through all of 237 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,480 that to see what amenities were kind of 238 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:19,160 where they were ranked and what we want 239 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,520 to do. At the top of that list was Duke 240 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,600 Park um 241 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,760 which is why we're here today 242 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,800 uh with the flooding of the baseball 243 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:28,240 field so that's where that that survey 244 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,400 has led us here to today so 245 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,040 um 246 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:34,560 Do any other members of the public have 247 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,560 any other questions or comments? 248 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,880 » Do you have a recommendation? 249 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,360 » To move forward? 250 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,480 » Uh it is unanimous to move forward. Is 251 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,120 there anything else to come before the 252 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:40,720 committee tonight? 253 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,560 » No, sir. 254 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,560 » We stand adjourned.