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Let's call to order the uh September

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>> September 17th meeting, board of

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» September 17th meeting, board of

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directors meeting for the TTSA.

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Uh please silence your phones if anybody

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has a phone.

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>> Uh that would be very appreciative. And

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» Uh that would be very appreciative. And

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at this point, uh let's take a roll

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call.

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Director,

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>> I'm here.

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» I'm here.

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>> Director Cox,

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» Director Cox,

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>> yes.

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» yes.

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>> Director Wilkins,

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» Director Wilkins,

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>> Director Hansford,

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» Director Hansford,

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>> yes.

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>> here. And I guess at this point we

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» here. And I guess at this point we

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should uh stand for the pledge of

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allegiance.

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I aliance to the United States of

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America and to the republic for which it

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stands. One nation under God,

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indivisible, with liberty, liberty, and

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justice for all.

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And at this point, do we have any public

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comments uh for anything not listed on

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the agenda? Do we have any online or

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>> No.

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>> Okay. Thank you. Uh and with that, let's

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» Okay. Thank you. Uh and with that, let's

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go ahead and move forward uh to review

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and adopt the agenda. Uh do any

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directors wish to wish to adjust or move

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any items on the consent or uh regular

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Okay. Would anyone like to make a motion

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to adopt the agenda? Move

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>> to approve the agenda.

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» to approve the agenda.

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>> Second. Motion by

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» Second. Motion by

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director Wilkins uh Wilkins second by

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director Cox

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and we need a roll call for that or all

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in favor.

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>> All in favor please say I. I

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» All in favor please say I. I

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motion approved

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and I believe Vicki

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you are up with pretty impressive

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work.

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>> Yes. Good morning President Wilson and

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» Yes. Good morning President Wilson and

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directors. Vicky Lefrono, human

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resources administrator. And yes, we

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have a pretty significant work

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anniversary this month and that would be

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Bill Pendar from the laboratory with 25

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years of service. Bill was unable to

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attend today, but we would still like to

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acknowledge and congratulate him. So,

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great job, Bill.

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a lot about the people and the uh agency

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and culture. So, thank him for us and u

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he'll be at one of the next meetings.

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board was lost time to injury. Do we

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know is that still in the thousands as

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far as days since we've had one?

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» that is still correct.

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members, I don't know if you know this

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or not, but I believe a year ago was I

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don't know 3500 or 5,000 or some

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unbelievable number. It was literally

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years. And uh I bring it up now because

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that's the type of stuff that just

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continues to pay dividends and it really

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speaks to the culture of where we are

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and the fact that people take safety

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very carefully. So thank you Vicki.

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and we'll go ahead and move on to the uh

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consent agenda

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and the approval of the board minutes

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for August 20th, 2025.

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and the ratification of the general fund

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payments. I'm sorry.

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» Do we want to amend the motion?

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his committee.

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consent agenda.

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>> Okay. Motion by Director Cox. Uh second

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by Director Wilson or Wilkins. Sorry.

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This one's a little confusing to me, so

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please be patient. The appointment of

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the agency board president and vice

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president.

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act the uh board has a responsibility to

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name the president and the vice

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president on fouryear rotating basis. Um

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two-year rotating basis and we are uh at

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the end of that cycle. Currently it's

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oddnumbered years um is when it gets

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determining. So uh we uh before the

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board is an opportunity to uh nominate

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and elect a board president and vice

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period of time I don't know 38 years

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Dale longer where we rotated well where

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the board but where the president vice

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president was the same person for a few

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decades back when Oz was the board

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president and we changed the probably

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changed that tradition maybe eight years

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rotate it. Um, you know, you've been in

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the president role just for a few months

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now along with Bird, you know, cuz

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Blake's term. So, um, yeah, I think if

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that'd be great. And Bird's willing to

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be vice president again, that would be

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great. And years moved.

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more confusing to me is the uh finance

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document that uh Liz crafted to help us

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policies and procedures of the finance

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committee, which was very helpful. Um we

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wrote it into that policy to appoint a

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member uh two members from the board on

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the same rotating basis that we do

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president vice presidential appointment.

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Um this is all uh this is not the law.

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our own internal document. Um so we are

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chair and a new vice chair of the

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finance committee

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for the next two years. U who's uh you

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know is it you and Bert on the finance

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committee right now?

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» you're kind of getting a loaded plate

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here. Um Scott, but would you be willing

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>> You're to do it next year.

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>> Are you sure?

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» Um, I think we do need to address who

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would be the committee chair and vice

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chair because someone needs to kind of

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coordinate the meeting and start and

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stop and that stuff.

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>> I I would recommend that B chair can be

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» I I would recommend that B chair can be

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the vice chair at this point.

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>> It would be fine.

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» It would be fine.

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>> And then so the document that the way

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» And then so the document that the way

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that the um packet read it would start

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in the at the next meeting. Um, are we

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all okay with that? changing in January

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to get a next meeting as stated in the

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» Good point. I think we are that's what

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>> It works for me. I just want to make

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» It works for me. I just want to make

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>> Let's put it this way. Whatever works

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» Let's put it this way. Whatever works

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for you.

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» That's the reality.

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>> All right.

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chair and

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and directors

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as vice chair beginning in January 2026

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and motion by director

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CS.

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>> Yes.

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» Yes.

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>> Second by director.

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» Second by director.

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>> Sure.

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» Sure.

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>> As previous. Okay.

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» As previous. Okay.

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>> All in favor say I.

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» All in favor say I.

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>> I approve.

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» I approve.

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>> Yeah. Good job.

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And I believe now Scott, you're up to

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provide us with

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update on the

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» Oh, you got

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you're already

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board members. President Wilson.

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So Scott Fleming, inter technical

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services manager and senior engineer for

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agency here this morning to talk about

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nutrient removal and this project. So um

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you guys have have known for a little

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while now this was coming and we're at

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that point now juncture point decision

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on how to proceed to the agency. I

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provided a quite lengthy uh board memo I

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think a uh rude in for you guys to just

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be reminded of the background that's led

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us to this this point in time here. So

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I'll I'll touch briefly on on the

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background and kind of go into the

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necessities of this project and how we

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ended up with a recommendation. So um

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yeah, as most of you are aware, we

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engaged Corolla back in 2019 to to

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perform a master plan for the facility.

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We had quite a bit of aging

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infrastructure staff were struggling

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with identifying the appropriate CIP and

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out of that master plan it was it was um

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recommended to move forward with the

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redeplication of the facility. There was

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not any alternatives looked at at that

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time by staff and by Corolla to evaluate

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other alternatives to us utilizing

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existing treatment techniques and

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technologies that were established in

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the 1970s through the 1980s for

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phosphorus removal for for a nutrient

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and then later on in the 03 expansion

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for nitrogen. A lot of those facilities

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are now coming due at the end of their

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useful life both on an equipment basis

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but also on a concrete or structural

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basis. were having facilities that the

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concrete's delivered long part because

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you guys have seen there. So with that

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in mind um we've been we were working on

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implementing that CIP or those

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rehabilitation projects bring those

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existing structures up to present day

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standards. As we were evaluating cost

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and rolling out those CIP programs, CO

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hit. As all you were aware, construction

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costs rapidly increased and we saw

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projects coming in two to three times

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what we were anticipating for budget

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purposes or that CIP

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along that process. The thought was

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thrown out there. Are we really sure we

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want to double down with moving forward

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with the existing treatment technologies

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for long-term plans for this agency, for

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the community, for the region? And are

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we positioned well if our nutrient

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limits change longterm to be able to

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address those changes by the water if

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they get more stringent or if we get

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pushed to an alternative treatment

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process because of what's called an MPDS

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permit. Right now we're permitted with

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the water or waste discharge

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requirements what we're required to

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discharge into the truck and river

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directly through our disposal field.

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Those concerns led us to

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uh sorry recommending to the board that

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we pursue a nutrient removal

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alternatives to process evaluation

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study. We went to Corollo to basically

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re-evaluate the master plan with current

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today's dollars and establish whether or

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not there was the necessity to look at

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other alternatives that weren't

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previously evaluated as part of the

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master plan or an alternative process to

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our existing treatment technique that

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long-term would be more cost effective

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to implement for the agency relative to

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a 25-year capital improvements program

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that doubled down on rehabilitation

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treatment techniques. So that study was

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kicked off in 2024 in March and we

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completed it as you guys are aware

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towards the uh early part of this year.

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I'm going to jump a slide here.

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So in that that report Bolo was tasked

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with comparing the existing alternative

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zero which was rehabilitation of the

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facility which was the directive out of

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the master plan to any other

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alternatives in a universal alternatives

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through a series of workshops and camps

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plan camps are our role is acronym for

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basically a very detailed workshop that

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a couple of the board members sat it on

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where we looked at all the options on

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the table. We look at every treatment

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technology that the country has to offer

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and the world has to offer and look for

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our specific discharge requirements now

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and potential future discharge

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requirements. How do we best position

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the facility, the agency, the rateayers

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to really accommodate those treatment

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requirements for the water? They

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provided us two recommendations out of

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that. One was to move forward with doing

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a five-stage activated sledge process

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with MBR and then additionally a 10%

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conceptual design that laid out how that

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would live on the facility from

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feasibility standpoint. We did look at

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trying to I don't want to use the word

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shoehorn but try to use existing

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footprints in sites and the cost and the

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level of complication needed to try to

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establish

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that we can meet our discharge

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requirements were extremely concerning

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and very cost prohibitive. So green

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building the facility versus trying to

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intertwine it with the existing just it

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it didn't it didn't make sense. So with

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that in mind they took it to 10%

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conceptual design and they left it there

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and said okay here's the recommendation

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board. Would you like to accept the

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study and go out looking for a

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consultant to move forward with doing

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final design for the project? And that's

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where we've been at is working on trying

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to identify a permit ident going out for

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proposals from consultants. Staff issued

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a request for proposals on a

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qualification based selections process

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which is pretty pretty standard in

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industry for us to do that. I reached

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out and contacted prior to that RFP

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going out six firms that I identified

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that were qualified. These are big

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names, right? that we trust can design

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this project that have relevant past

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experiences delivering projects in their

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size and complexity. Of the six, we

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received two proposals and of those two

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proposals, we are coming forward with

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you with a recommendation based off a

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universal decision by staff to recommend

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that Corollo was unequivocally the most

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responsive proposal to receive. So with

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that, I included the proposal attached

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and uh and have the fee in front of you.

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It's about $18.7 million and typically

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in the past we've done for for jobs of

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smaller scale about a 10% contingency

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for construction related. Uh Director

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Wilkins has previously mentioned that he

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would like to seek consideration for

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future projects for design services

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including contingency by staff to cover

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unforeseen costs so we don't have to

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come back to the board on a regular

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basis if it's a small tweak or change

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the overall design scope. And so with

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that I included in here not quite 10%

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just with the fact that it's such a

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large amount of money to request from

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the board this project design but rather

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a 3% amount you know that equates to

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about half a little over half a million

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dollars. I think it's closer to six or

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so. Um and with the expectation that any

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major changes to scope or fee that would

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exceed that amount back.

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Um so with that in mind staffer come to

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the board recommending that we enter

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into agreement note and corollo engineer

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has to perform a preliminary and final

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design for new terms at $18,698,81

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with staff authorization up to

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$19,300,000

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I'll turn it over questions. Can you go

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back one slide? Yeah.

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So,

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a couple things jumped out at me on

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this. Uh,

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the annual operation looks like a delta

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of about we're saving $2 million a year.

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So, times 25 years is $50 million. And

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then the annual maintenance. And uh

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I know that when I looked at this, those

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were the two that I kind of like focused

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on. And uh

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I guess what I want to say is I applaud

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the way that everything was put into

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the way you presented it because those

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are things that those are the details

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that I personally really looked at. And

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uh I look at this as

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one

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the biggest infrastructure project in

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our region that I couldn't remember. uh

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it's not the biggest, it's one of the

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biggest. Uh and two,

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the decision we're making today is uh a

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generational decision. You know, it's

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since this plant was built, I've had

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children and grandchildren and hopefully

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not great grandchildren in the near

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future. Uh, but that's I think it's

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important to not just look at the

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numbers for what they are today, but

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look at what we're providing for those

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generations that come. And that was

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something when I made my decision

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extremely heavily.

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» Questions or comments?

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» Yes. who the other proposal was and was

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fe similar do we feel good about Kina's

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being

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>> so um that's it's an interesting

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» so um that's it's an interesting

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question so first the first first part

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of that stand engineering was the other

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firm that was reached out to and ended

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up proposing on the project the agency

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does not have a history of working with

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that firm in any regard um they did the

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Donner Summit PUD's membrane project and

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they also did the Reno that expansion.

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So, they're a huge firm. They're they're

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very large and very capable. Um, their

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fee, however, was quite surprising. So,

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the fee came in at approximately

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say it was right around just under $5

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million, which was substantially

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underneath what staff estimated for a

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project of this size and complexity, it

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would come out based on typical industry

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standards. we um consorted or consulted

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in staff and also just asked some

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industry professionals what are we

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missing here with their proposal gave

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them an opportunity to provide that

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additional level of detail and um

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honestly I I'm not sure where where

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directly it's missed other than we

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consistently saw across the board in all

559
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categories that Cor's proposal addressed

560
00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,480
all of staff's concerns associated with

561
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,320
design and the reason we stand behind

562
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,320
universal recommendation from all of the

563
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,320
staff and all the code review panel

564
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:17,600
staff members are involved in the

565
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,880
selection committee is because while

566
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,280
stand is substantially lower and we're

567
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:24,960
not able to identify the specific

568
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,679
elements to a te that drove that the

569
00:20:27,679 --> 00:20:29,760
concerns associated with what is being

570
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,520
left on the table are missed some of

571
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:32,880
that could be attributed to things like

572
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,280
sheet count there was over 300 sheets

573
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,720
lower on stand proposal because we

574
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:39,840
require them to provide a sheet count

575
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:40,960
for all the drawings and that's one of

576
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,559
the indicators of how much a project's

577
00:20:42,559 --> 00:20:44,799
going to cost than what Corola was

578
00:20:44,799 --> 00:20:47,440
proposing with. So you translate that to

579
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,120
millions of dollars estimated per

580
00:20:49,120 --> 00:20:51,039
drawing sheet and how much information

581
00:20:51,039 --> 00:20:53,200
that scantch is trying to convey on the

582
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,679
same page of a drawing sheet that grow

583
00:20:55,679 --> 00:20:57,840
is. And I can tell you right now from my

584
00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,799
experience that translates typically to

585
00:21:00,799 --> 00:21:03,280
more open-ended designs that have holes

586
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,600
in them that allow contractors to take

587
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,520
advantage of designing on the fly in the

588
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,679
field and then pushing those costs back

589
00:21:09,679 --> 00:21:12,400
on rate payers in the agency. So my

590
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,240
concerns associated with that proposal

591
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:15,840
and staff's work. We don't know

592
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,600
explicitly what could be left out the

593
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,840
plans and specs, but in order to achieve

594
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,720
a price point of that that proposal be

595
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,559
there are going to be things that are

596
00:21:24,559 --> 00:21:26,720
performed that would be concerning for

597
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,240
us going into construction that would

598
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,240
subject us to potential substantial

599
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,039
contract modifications or contractor.

600
00:21:33,039 --> 00:21:34,960
self.

601
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,559
I hope that it's it's a kind of a

602
00:21:36,559 --> 00:21:38,559
convoluted and we can speculate all day

603
00:21:38,559 --> 00:21:40,640
on why the feed was where it was for

604
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,280
tech, but the other day they did not

605
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,039
specifically explain to us how their fee

606
00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:46,799
other than there was a couple nuances to

607
00:21:46,799 --> 00:21:48,880
it. But as a whole, the GE count was a

608
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,159
very large driver as well as the

609
00:21:50,159 --> 00:21:51,840
qualifications of the team that they're

610
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,760
putting together relative to the team

611
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,559
that was received proposal which we are

612
00:21:56,559 --> 00:21:59,440
that we did work with previously.

613
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,720
So Scott, just to summarize what you

614
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,240
just said,

615
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,669
>> you're basically saying even though the

616
00:22:05,669 --> 00:22:05,679
» you're basically saying even though the

617
00:22:05,679 --> 00:22:10,480
fee was significantly less, the design

618
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,400
part of it seemed to have quite a few

619
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,600
holes in it that we would more we'd pay

620
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,080
even more at the construction phase

621
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,000
because the design would be flawed.

622
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,470
>> This is incomplete maybe is a better

623
00:22:22,470 --> 00:22:22,480
» This is incomplete maybe is a better

624
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:23,039
word.

625
00:22:23,039 --> 00:22:25,590
>> So I'm speculating here, right, Director

626
00:22:25,590 --> 00:22:25,600
» So I'm speculating here, right, Director

627
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,440
Clement? and this is they they could

628
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:28,799
very well say we can deliver an

629
00:22:28,799 --> 00:22:30,480
equivalent project or product for that

630
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:31,919
fee and give you that sale. It's it's

631
00:22:31,919 --> 00:22:33,679
more of a calculate risk is the agency

632
00:22:33,679 --> 00:22:35,840
willing to take to save millions of

633
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,240
dollars up front on the design. The

634
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,559
concern is does that translate over to

635
00:22:40,559 --> 00:22:42,480
additional cost and construction? And I

636
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,400
I can't make any guarantees that would

637
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,640
come true, but that is my concern that

638
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,400
we see as staff as we get into design

639
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,919
projects with consultants that we

640
00:22:51,919 --> 00:22:53,760
haven't previously worked with. And we'd

641
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,320
also see likely some substantial as they

642
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,320
get a better scope of of work

643
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,400
understanding with the project. There

644
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,320
would be probably some conflicts

645
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,400
associated with negotiating with be and

646
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,960
scope amendments the full detailed fe.

647
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,039
The reason I can say with confidence

648
00:23:09,039 --> 00:23:10,559
that's a concern of mine is because I'm

649
00:23:10,559 --> 00:23:12,000
actually working through that challenge

650
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,600
right now. Another design consulting

651
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,720
firm actually worked with us and they

652
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,480
are coming looking to come to the board

653
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,720
with the amended request if I will

654
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,280
recommend it if I think it's reasonable.

655
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:24,960
So we're already seeing that in design

656
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,320
with another firm and I would be

657
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,679
concerned that we'd be seeing that with

658
00:23:27,679 --> 00:23:30,960
this project as well much larger scale.

659
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,039
Whereas with the Corolla proposal I feel

660
00:23:33,039 --> 00:23:35,280
confident that the fee provided is a

661
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,880
fully inclusive fee that we are going to

662
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,320
get a complete product that will

663
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,320
minimize the likelihood that you learn

664
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,400
instruction.

665
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,480
Sorry that's kind of longwinded but do

666
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:45,360
my best here.

667
00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:47,270
>> Sorry I just want to make sure I

668
00:23:47,270 --> 00:23:47,280
» Sorry I just want to make sure I

669
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:48,400
understood what you were trying.

670
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,230
>> Yeah to your point. Yeah, that is my

671
00:23:50,230 --> 00:23:50,240
» Yeah to your point. Yeah, that is my

672
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,799
speculation, but I know if I had a

673
00:23:52,799 --> 00:23:54,720
crystal ball, I wish I did.

674
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,149
>> And and as Scott has already mentioned,

675
00:23:56,149 --> 00:23:56,159
» And and as Scott has already mentioned,

676
00:23:56,159 --> 00:23:58,720
we did a gut check. We we talked to a

677
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,440
half dozen other industry folks. Um

678
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,320
several of them were industry folks that

679
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,559
were considering proposing on this, but

680
00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:08,799
chose not to in the end, but had already

681
00:24:08,799 --> 00:24:10,080
reached a point where they knew where

682
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,600
their ballpark figure was going to be to

683
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,000
what they were going to propose. None of

684
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,360
them could explain that level of kind of

685
00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:20,400
design. So that was a little tough

686
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,320
difference.

687
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,470
>> I did like that it's very comprehensive.

688
00:24:24,470 --> 00:24:24,480
» I did like that it's very comprehensive.

689
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,240
I like the fact that it takes us all the

690
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,760
way through to the bidding

691
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,679
process and so yeah I just I was just

692
00:24:33,679 --> 00:24:36,559
curious and that's a big difference.

693
00:24:36,559 --> 00:24:38,870
>> It's a substantial one. It's one that

694
00:24:38,870 --> 00:24:38,880
» It's a substantial one. It's one that

695
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,799
needs to be right. We did our best

696
00:24:42,799 --> 00:24:48,549
clarification within ter scopes.

697
00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:53,360
So you said staff universal a goes

698
00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:54,799
can you tell me a little bit about that

699
00:24:54,799 --> 00:24:57,360
process? Yeah. So, um, when we do a

700
00:24:57,360 --> 00:24:58,880
qualifications based selection

701
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,799
committee, the way that we we do it here

702
00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:03,279
at the agency is we develop and identify

703
00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:04,880
the appropriate staff. In this case,

704
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,880
such since it's a such large project,

705
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,960
it's going to impact all departments. We

706
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,400
had representatives from ops,

707
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,240
maintenance, admin, and technical

708
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,080
services representing each of the

709
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,400
department managers and subsequently one

710
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,559
representative staff or enlisted an

711
00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:20,000
admin. We didn't have to provide an

712
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,640
extra staff. So, she was the uh the

713
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,600
swing boat. Yeah. Per se. Um and so we

714
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,080
had a panel of seven staff members with

715
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,440
one from each department and subsequent

716
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,360
ones from maintenance and technical

717
00:25:31,360 --> 00:25:32,640
services that on the selection

718
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,960
committee. The way we do it is we do a

719
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,360
seal sealed envelope feed based

720
00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:40,240
qualifications um review. So we look at

721
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,080
their qualifications which are listed in

722
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,880
here back up to it or it's on there.

723
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,880
It's based off of experience, technical

724
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,360
approach and presentation and each of

725
00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:50,960
those has a different weight. So the

726
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,480
primary weights associated with this

727
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,200
project were the fee the qualifications

728
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,880
and technical approach. The presentation

729
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,120
was worth I think 10% or so if I

730
00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:03,679
remember right is 15 or 15%. Yeah. I

731
00:26:03,679 --> 00:26:05,919
could look up the exact percentages but

732
00:26:05,919 --> 00:26:08,720
um staff review those pieces of the

733
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,039
proposal and put a scoring weight next

734
00:26:11,039 --> 00:26:13,760
to each one. Out of that comes a

735
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,200
recommendation from each of those staff

736
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,159
members over which proposal responsive.

737
00:26:18,159 --> 00:26:20,000
We include into that the waiting of the

738
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,799
fee structure. In this case, the the fee

739
00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:24,799
about approximately $5 million versus

740
00:26:24,799 --> 00:26:27,840
scrolls fee of 18.6. We wait the two off

741
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,600
of each other for I think the fee was

742
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:34,400
30% or 35% in this case for 30 and uh

743
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:35,760
that's weighted into the overall

744
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,520
decision. When we waited the fee in,

745
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,559
Corollo based off of qualifications did

746
00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:42,559
such a substantially more thorough

747
00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:44,320
approach to their proposal and their

748
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,400
overall understanding of the work that

749
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:47,919
even with the fees factored in on a

750
00:26:47,919 --> 00:26:50,159
weighted basis, Santex proposal, they

751
00:26:50,159 --> 00:26:51,600
could still not come in this correctly.

752
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,760
They were close but because the feed was

753
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,679
such a large hated it but they were

754
00:26:55,679 --> 00:26:57,200
still off by a factor of point. that we

755
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,600
felt confident everybody knew this is

756
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,279
the firm just on qualifications alone

757
00:27:01,279 --> 00:27:04,320
without the B was more responsive than

758
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,240
when we factored B still he was

759
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,510
responsive

760
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,919
that give you

761
00:27:11,919 --> 00:27:13,520
yeah I think it's important also to note

762
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,360
that those that were scoring did not

763
00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:18,000
know what the feed was while the

764
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,400
selecting criteria just being

765
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,269
>> these open post all the qualification

766
00:27:23,269 --> 00:27:23,279
» these open post all the qualification

767
00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:24,799
reviews because otherwise it potentially

768
00:27:24,799 --> 00:27:27,840
have some agencies don't even factor fee

769
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,679
into their selections. Instead, they

770
00:27:29,679 --> 00:27:32,000
request the fee post selection. And

771
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,360
that's something in the future we can

772
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:35,360
discuss if we prefer to negotiate scope

773
00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:37,679
and fee on the back end after we make a

774
00:27:37,679 --> 00:27:39,279
qualification based selection. But a

775
00:27:39,279 --> 00:27:41,200
project of this scale, we wanted to get

776
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,200
an idea that in a perfect world would be

777
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,440
a came similar. And that's why we

778
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,120
speaking with other consulting firms

779
00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:49,679
knew that a more typical fee structure

780
00:27:49,679 --> 00:27:52,559
would be closer to the role of there was

781
00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:54,159
very large concern about why it's going

782
00:27:54,159 --> 00:27:59,669
to take able to offer such a substantial

783
00:27:59,679 --> 00:28:00,480
question.

784
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,669
>> Yes. Um,

785
00:28:03,669 --> 00:28:03,679
» Yes. Um,

786
00:28:03,679 --> 00:28:06,720
when you uh analyzed or reviewed the

787
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,960
qualifications between SANTC and

788
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,480
Curillo, was it a face-to-face uh

789
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,960
interview with the representatives from

790
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:22,000
SANTC and or was it a paper exchange?

791
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,389
>> So, it was both director Fox. Yeah. So

792
00:28:24,389 --> 00:28:24,399
» So, it was both director Fox. Yeah. So

793
00:28:24,399 --> 00:28:26,720
we in the proposal they have to list out

794
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,159
all of their their qualified team

795
00:28:28,159 --> 00:28:29,679
members that are assigned to the project

796
00:28:29,679 --> 00:28:31,039
as well as their level of effort, work

797
00:28:31,039 --> 00:28:33,279
hours and availability. And then as part

798
00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:35,679
of the presentation they're able to

799
00:28:35,679 --> 00:28:38,480
bring in an interview setting during

800
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:39,919
that presentation they they had a

801
00:28:39,919 --> 00:28:42,080
30-minut presentation followed by up to

802
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,000
two hour and a half two hours of

803
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,320
interview questions. And out of that we

804
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,159
were able to directly ask concerns and

805
00:28:48,159 --> 00:28:49,760
questions associated with the proposal

806
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,159
to the team to identify if the members

807
00:28:52,159 --> 00:28:54,799
of that proposal team were knowledgeable

808
00:28:54,799 --> 00:28:56,720
and understood the challenges associated

809
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,520
with the project. And so it again did

810
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,960
add a little more to that. We had very a

811
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,120
very solid performance by extremely

812
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,480
with their presentation team. team

813
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,240
because we got all of the key members

814
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,919
involved in the project across the board

815
00:29:11,919 --> 00:29:14,000
that we've already seen at multiple

816
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,880
workshops and we know have the technical

817
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,520
chops to deliver this project for us on

818
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,360
time and that was sort of the confidence

819
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,840
is there that it is a lot of money but

820
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:31,510
we know this team can de project

821
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,200
um

822
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,640
question Scott so I think it's it's good

823
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,320
that we've got the uh

824
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,480
work scope and the cost that takes us

825
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,640
all the way through uh bidding.

826
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,399
Would did you guys consider

827
00:29:50,399 --> 00:29:52,960
um rather than a a recommendation to

828
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,520
award the entire contract

829
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,559
a recommendation to award like up

830
00:29:58,559 --> 00:30:02,799
through the 30% design now?

831
00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:05,279
um make sure the performance that we're

832
00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:08,559
expecting to get uh materializes you

833
00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:11,039
know through the design process.

834
00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:12,960
That's that's one reason that it can be

835
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,399
useful. The other reason is that this

836
00:30:16,399 --> 00:30:18,799
this project may be well enough known

837
00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:21,440
that envisioning what's needed all the

838
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,760
way through final design at this point

839
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,240
may be more feasible. A lot of times

840
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,799
with these large infrastructure projects

841
00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:33,039
as you as the design materializes

842
00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:34,799
sometimes it gets more complex sometimes

843
00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:38,480
it gets more simple. Um and often times

844
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,080
in that 30% design phase you

845
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,080
collectively as the consultant team at

846
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,279
the owner learn a lot more about what

847
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:50,880
the final project is going to look like

848
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,120
and what level of design may be needed

849
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:57,120
for that final project. So, um I I've

850
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,480
seen projects like this where rather

851
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,000
than awarding the entire contract, a

852
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,320
portion of the work scope is uh awarded

853
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,640
and there's a benchmark for both the

854
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,600
owner and the design team to touch touch

855
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,399
off of for what would be a future, you

856
00:31:16,399 --> 00:31:18,880
know, contract on the design. But it

857
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,320
also provides both of us some

858
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,480
opportunity to

859
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,640
um kind of rescope that 60% and final

860
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,360
design effort once we're informed by

861
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,760
what comes out of the 30% design effort.

862
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,000
So do you have any thoughts around that?

863
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,590
>> Yeah, so there's there's a couple things

864
00:31:35,590 --> 00:31:35,600
» Yeah, so there's there's a couple things

865
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,320
there. We we our standard contracting

866
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,399
terms or services agreement for

867
00:31:40,399 --> 00:31:41,760
professional engineering consulting

868
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,600
services. We are obligated to pay for

869
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,760
the work performed and we typically pay

870
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,399
it out on on the time materials basis to

871
00:31:50,399 --> 00:31:52,960
an extent per the agreed upon scope of

872
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,799
this. At any point along the way if we

873
00:31:54,799 --> 00:31:56,320
don't have the confidence of the team

874
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,919
our contracts explicitly states the

875
00:31:57,919 --> 00:32:00,080
agency has a right to to basically cut

876
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,760
the work loose. We'd be obligated to pay

877
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,279
them for the work perform date. So if

878
00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:05,679
they were in midpoint design deliverable

879
00:32:05,679 --> 00:32:07,360
and they had expensed hours for that

880
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,039
work but we had not completed

881
00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:10,159
deliverable we'd have to pay off of

882
00:32:10,159 --> 00:32:11,840
that. But to I guess the first point

883
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,720
there, we can consider after the PDR if

884
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,559
there's an identification that the scope

885
00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:18,240
isn't quite hammered out to the level

886
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,240
that was in the original proposal.

887
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,919
That's where we'd be coming back if it's

888
00:32:21,919 --> 00:32:24,240
a substantial increase with a an uptake

889
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,720
on the scope and being a a re-evaluation

890
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,559
of that scope to with the scope a

891
00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:30,640
minute. The second part of that is is

892
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,320
you did hit on it. This project is

893
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,679
pretty well identified because we've

894
00:32:33,679 --> 00:32:35,279
already taken into a 10% conceptual

895
00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:36,960
design. If we would have taken adjust to

896
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,200
that evaluation or study, it would have

897
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,799
been more sensible for us to consider

898
00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:43,600
just doing a PDR for the next step and

899
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,360
then considering putting out an RP

900
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,919
potentially for other firms and and

901
00:32:47,919 --> 00:32:49,600
Corolla or whichever firm we would have

902
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,120
gotten or firms we would have gotten

903
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,120
proposals from would want to ensure they

904
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,720
weren't going to be excluded from bottle

905
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,440
design by doing that 30% design. But um

906
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,000
in this case, there are a couple

907
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,600
specific facilities where there were

908
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,399
concept concepts uh put into the

909
00:33:04,399 --> 00:33:06,080
proposal that have not been fully

910
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,000
detailed out yet. Specifically, I'll

911
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,640
give one example. We have our two water

912
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,720
ponds that you guys the lovely pond part

913
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,279
next to over here that serves as uh

914
00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:17,440
utility water for the agency around the

915
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,519
plan. And there are questions over the

916
00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:21,360
strategy long term of how to utilize

917
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,760
that plant process water. as it relates

918
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,919
to this project. We've identified that

919
00:33:25,919 --> 00:33:27,760
we needed to do a two water improvements

920
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,320
project. However, baked into this scope

921
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,840
is the expectation if we're already

922
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,840
rerouting the new plant effluent line

923
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,519
that goes to the disposal field that we

924
00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:38,399
tee off of for the two water, we need to

925
00:33:38,399 --> 00:33:40,080
identify how we're going to utilize the

926
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,480
two water pond or andor fire flows and

927
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,559
other things that that services. So

928
00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:46,559
that's not fully detailed out is a good

929
00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:48,159
example of what would be something that

930
00:33:48,159 --> 00:33:50,559
in the PDR we expect to get more

931
00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:53,279
detailed and know the cost at a more

932
00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:55,519
concrete level and that should trigger

933
00:33:55,519 --> 00:33:57,440
us needing to reevaluate if that's a

934
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,519
struggling point for us during that

935
00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:01,840
preliminary design to come up with a

936
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,279
concrete solution without delaying this

937
00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:05,360
project. So there are some things that

938
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,079
harmonize and Richard uh Blante

939
00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:10,320
previously wanted a a specific broad

940
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,639
item scope in there that any other

941
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:15,119
projects identified during the PDR that

942
00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:17,119
need to be included to harmonize this

943
00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:19,520
project with our long-term CIP. So I

944
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,520
think he was mostly focusing on

945
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,280
rehabilitation of existing structures.

946
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,480
If we already have a contractor

947
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,159
mobilized on site, we know some of our

948
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:28,639
primary clarifiers are 50 years old and

949
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:30,399
need to be rehabilitated. Does it make

950
00:34:30,399 --> 00:34:31,919
sense while the contractors out here to

951
00:34:31,919 --> 00:34:33,839
include that in the scope of work? Right

952
00:34:33,839 --> 00:34:35,440
now that is not currently identified as

953
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,560
a task in this project to rehabilitate

954
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:39,919
primary clarifiers but it's a question

955
00:34:39,919 --> 00:34:42,639
to ask parole during the PR phase if

956
00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:44,639
they can evaluate providers level effort

957
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:46,480
scope fee that we come back to the board

958
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,000
if it takes over right it's a

959
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,159
substantial change to the scope I think

960
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:52,159
the moral to the story is effectively we

961
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:55,040
didn't see enough constraint by going

962
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,839
with an entire package versus a PDR to

963
00:34:57,839 --> 00:35:01,760
warrant going to separate efforts there

964
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,829
>> and there was also um some financial

965
00:35:03,829 --> 00:35:03,839
» and there was also um some financial

966
00:35:03,839 --> 00:35:05,599
forecasting benefits to having a little

967
00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:07,440
bit of a solid this is going to happen

968
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,960
and this is the relative period of time

969
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,520
it's going to happen in so that when we

970
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,440
discuss the next point on the agenda we

971
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,400
can have better forecasting for if we

972
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,240
were to do a PDR maybe it was a third of

973
00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:19,760
this cost and then we can assume

974
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,480
twothirds of that cost later but when so

975
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,160
there was a little bit of cloudiness for

976
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,960
the forecasting this this shored that up

977
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,520
a little bit for us um and we've always

978
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,280
acknowledged that there's going to be

979
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,280
several opportunities through scope

980
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:38,240
modification this project is no e so

981
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:39,910
>> yeah I mean generally things have to be

982
00:35:39,910 --> 00:35:39,920
» yeah I mean generally things have to be

983
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,520
going

984
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,400
pretty poorly to take project to a 30%

985
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,280
design that switch consultants that it

986
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,040
happens but I wouldn't see that

987
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,240
happening here we've got a very good

988
00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:52,960
working relationship with corol have a

989
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,640
high degree of confidence in the team

990
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,359
they've put together so that's that's

991
00:35:57,359 --> 00:35:59,440
certainly not

992
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:05,200
certified uh it's really more the um the

993
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,960
potential for it's like oh gee we've got

994
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,560
another we got another scope amendment

995
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,040
we got another contract $18 million

996
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,960
contract is compared to you know that

997
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,119
strategy of you know do the PDR first

998
00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:19,280
contracting that have a pretty good idea

999
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,920
as to what that next level of design is

1000
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,720
going to cost but then fine-tune that as

1001
00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:28,880
part of a a future contract so that the

1002
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:33,520
the the likelihood of or no uh ongoing

1003
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,760
contract amendments because we've added

1004
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,359
clarifier building to the work scope

1005
00:36:37,359 --> 00:36:41,359
where we've subtracted something. And um

1006
00:36:41,359 --> 00:36:42,480
because the other thing we should look

1007
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,920
at is know if there's ways to simplify

1008
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,480
the project and there's elements that

1009
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,560
aren't needed then the design effort

1010
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,359
that would have gone into those should

1011
00:36:55,359 --> 00:36:57,920
uh not be expended. But, you know,

1012
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,800
sometimes having done a lot of public

1013
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,560
works contracting, it's like, oh, that

1014
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,720
design work ends up getting sucked up

1015
00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:06,720
somewhere else on some other design

1016
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:10,079
element. It's a lot uh easier for that

1017
00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:12,160
to happen when the when when the

1018
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,079
contract maximum is already set as

1019
00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:17,440
compared to if it's more incremental uh

1020
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,400
over time. So, yeah. No, and those are

1021
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,880
really valid points, right? And in this

1022
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,160
case, I think you know what you see in

1023
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,680
this level of detail in the proposal is

1024
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,280
staff's identification opportunity

1025
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,599
facility and knowing this is the

1026
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:33,200
specific scope we know needs to be

1027
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,440
addressed. So there's quite a there's

1028
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,040
quite a substantial lift on their part

1029
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,240
and I think that's why the fee is so

1030
00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:40,560
high is you see well not so high but

1031
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,240
relative to the project cost it impacts

1032
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:46,800
almost every facility in some regard the

1033
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,800
or the other apart from what we're

1034
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,000
handling on the solid side with

1035
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,440
digestion currently and so I think you

1036
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,680
know we're still there's make no doubt

1037
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:56,640
about it we're still going to need to

1038
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,720
have CIP post this project right an

1039
00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:01,599
ongoing work it's it's just more of to

1040
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:03,520
that effect of where do we draw the and

1041
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,240
and prevent and essentially with the

1042
00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:07,680
project and ensuring that we're not just

1043
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,280
tacking things on going back to scope

1044
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,000
amendments as we identify more and I

1045
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,839
think when you read through the list of

1046
00:38:13,839 --> 00:38:15,839
items at the the start of scope work you

1047
00:38:15,839 --> 00:38:17,680
can see there's quite a lot there I

1048
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,640
think I'll turn I'll let I just want to

1049
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,960
answer your question Dan I mean I think

1050
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,480
what you're saying is we want to have

1051
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,880
the ability to be flexible and fluid as

1052
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,880
the design progresses and we're totally

1053
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,040
open to that we're not like okay we got

1054
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,400
this contract we're going to design this

1055
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,640
thing and set in stone. We we deal with

1056
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,000
this all the time. There's going to be

1057
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,240
changes as things become simplified or

1058
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:39,839
maybe they're more complex. So, we're

1059
00:38:39,839 --> 00:38:41,119
totally open to being flexible on that

1060
00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:43,280
and renegotiating the scope of fees as

1061
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,200
we see significant changes come about.

1062
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,079
We're not we're invested in making this

1063
00:38:48,079 --> 00:38:49,760
project the best for the agency and

1064
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,280
we're focused on that one goal

1065
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,520
specifically. It's not about the, you

1066
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,200
know, us getting the most revenue out of

1067
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,240
this project. It's about getting the

1068
00:38:56,240 --> 00:38:57,440
best project for you guys. So, we're

1069
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,880
totally flexible on all that.

1070
00:38:58,880 --> 00:38:59,270
>> Yeah.

1071
00:38:59,270 --> 00:38:59,280
» Yeah.

1072
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,310
>> Yeah.

1073
00:39:00,310 --> 00:39:00,320
» Yeah.

1074
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,400
And it just requires diligence on both

1075
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,880
that team and for the

1076
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,470
>> and the agency reps to be monitoring

1077
00:39:08,470 --> 00:39:08,480
» and the agency reps to be monitoring

1078
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,280
that sometimes sometimes you can lose

1079
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,160
track of the what the original contract

1080
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,200
was.

1081
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,990
>> That was definitely one of the lenses to

1082
00:39:17,990 --> 00:39:18,000
» That was definitely one of the lenses to

1083
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:18,960
push us through.

1084
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,069
>> Yeah.

1085
00:39:20,069 --> 00:39:20,079
» Yeah.

1086
00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:21,680
In the event that they go that

1087
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,760
direction, how effective is our

1088
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,400
oversight commission team and

1089
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,040
qualifications and to placement part of

1090
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,640
the country and all those things were

1091
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,400
all part of that. So

1092
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,470
>> yeah recognized that it is going to

1093
00:39:34,470 --> 00:39:34,480
» yeah recognized that it is going to

1094
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,119
require some several years of diligence.

1095
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:39,190
>> Yeah.

1096
00:39:39,190 --> 00:39:39,200
» Yeah.

1097
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,589
>> Getting through 30% will be a telling

1098
00:39:41,589 --> 00:39:41,599
» Getting through 30% will be a telling

1099
00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:43,200
stopping point where we can step back

1100
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,119
and say are we still headed the right

1101
00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:45,760
direction.

1102
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,270
>> Right.

1103
00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:47,280
» Right.

1104
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,190
>> Yeah. And I would encourage that to

1105
00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:49,200
» Yeah. And I would encourage that to

1106
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,200
happen. So if we award, if we do award

1107
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,839
the full contract,

1108
00:39:53,839 --> 00:39:56,720
that would be a good point for both us

1109
00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:58,640
and the consultant team to take a step

1110
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,040
back. So okay, where are we at? Are we

1111
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,040
still good with this remaining design

1112
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,359
work scope or should it be

1113
00:40:05,359 --> 00:40:07,589
>> modified in some fashion based on what

1114
00:40:07,589 --> 00:40:07,599
» modified in some fashion based on what

1115
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:09,920
we're seeing at that point?

1116
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,670
>> Yeah. And with that point, I think it's

1117
00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:11,680
» Yeah. And with that point, I think it's

1118
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,839
I didn't put the proposed schedule in.

1119
00:40:13,839 --> 00:40:16,000
It's in the proposal, but if you take a

1120
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,920
look at the schedule, I think something

1121
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,520
I heard from one of the board members

1122
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,680
previously is that active involvement by

1123
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,200
the board of knowing what's going on

1124
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,040
with this project, not just from a

1125
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,960
monthly update from staff, but also to

1126
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,320
being invited and having an opportunity

1127
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,040
to attend workshops and camps that is

1128
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,640
fully baked into the assumptions with

1129
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,359
this proposal. Part of the reasons we

1130
00:40:35,359 --> 00:40:37,680
need to have direct involvement so

1131
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,000
everybody on the team, not just staff,

1132
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,680
not just the consultant, but the public

1133
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,359
as well as the board are fully aware of

1134
00:40:43,359 --> 00:40:45,280
what's going on with this. And so the

1135
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,280
expectation or the hope is that some of

1136
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,720
the board members, if not all, and we

1137
00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:50,480
can facilitate what is required are

1138
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:51,839
interested in attending some of those

1139
00:40:51,839 --> 00:40:54,160
workshops. So they have a full interest

1140
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:55,680
in understanding of where this is going

1141
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,200
and doesn't get away from. So the level

1142
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,480
of oversight from the board the

1143
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,720
expectation there is there it's it's

1144
00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:02,400
going to be work for everybody not just

1145
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,280
staff not just the consultant but also

1146
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,119
the hope is that there's some level of

1147
00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:09,680
involvement engagement

1148
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,119
well and that's part of this is the er

1149
00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:15,760
has substantial camp in the schedule the

1150
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,160
expectation is some if not all the board

1151
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,760
members however we can facilitate that I

1152
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,680
know there's implications I think the

1153
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,640
practic but make that word potentially

1154
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:25,920
you know so if it needs to be held

1155
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,680
publicly So be it, right? So everybody

1156
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,520
can be in attendance, understand where

1157
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,599
all these tech memos led to with the

1158
00:41:31,599 --> 00:41:33,200
overall are with the project. Make sure

1159
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,400
we're all on the same page and we'll

1160
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,640
have a sharper idea of what the costs

1161
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,640
are going to be. And if that's the time

1162
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:39,839
we start talking about value

1163
00:41:39,839 --> 00:41:41,680
engineering, we can do that, right? As

1164
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,839
well as along the way with looking for

1165
00:41:43,839 --> 00:41:45,680
creative cost effective solutions with

1166
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,160
this project considering it.

1167
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,710
>> Yeah. And and then one final comment

1168
00:41:50,710 --> 00:41:50,720
» Yeah. And and then one final comment

1169
00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:53,920
kind of goes the cost differential

1170
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,920
between two proposals.

1171
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,280
the you know we've got a small by

1172
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,160
comparison engineering staff here that

1173
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,480
has a lot of work that they're you're

1174
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,079
trying to get done other than this

1175
00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:08,319
project. You know, the fact that the

1176
00:42:08,319 --> 00:42:10,319
Corono team has a bit of familiarity

1177
00:42:10,319 --> 00:42:12,160
with the plant and the organization that

1178
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:18,160
they do uh will in my opinion

1179
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,119
make this you moving this project design

1180
00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:24,079
forward a lot less labor intensive

1181
00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:26,480
particularly on the front end for our

1182
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,680
internal staff. Um I I think if we were

1183
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,400
bringing in a new team,

1184
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,280
uh there's could easily be a 12-month

1185
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,560
period of getting that group familiar

1186
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,640
with our plan and the people here and

1187
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,440
our organization that I think would

1188
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,319
directly impact the schedule of the

1189
00:42:46,319 --> 00:42:49,280
design. I'm confident that the Corollo

1190
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,119
team given their background will be able

1191
00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:52,720
to

1192
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:57,440
um move much more rapidly uh into the

1193
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,760
design phase of this without the need

1194
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,720
you know for that I guess familiar

1195
00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:04,800
familiarization

1196
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,920
with the plant and the organization

1197
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,240
that would be needed with a different

1198
00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:12,960
team but I I think there's value in that

1199
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,200
as well. Yeah, and talking about

1200
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,599
workload, it's I know the situation

1201
00:43:17,599 --> 00:43:19,440
right now as I'm living in it, but the

1202
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,240
expectation on my end is being able to

1203
00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:23,760
identify when we get to a point with key

1204
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,880
milestone deliverables, having the avail

1205
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,720
ability to get a secondary opinion,

1206
00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:29,599
right?

1207
00:43:29,599 --> 00:43:30,880
Jacobs is another firm we've

1208
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,040
historically used quite a bit or the CH2

1209
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,040
and Hill and they're pretty aware of

1210
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,640
this facility and so during major

1211
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,240
milestone deliverables specifically and

1212
00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:40,480
I I've already alluded to this with this

1213
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,319
team is there's the potential to engage

1214
00:43:42,319 --> 00:43:44,560
a firm if necessary and if there's

1215
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,880
concerns presented about getting that so

1216
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,920
hydraulic and and nutrient models

1217
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,160
associated with forecasted loadings with

1218
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,960
the facility is something that it it's a

1219
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,560
lot of trust to place and I'm I'm not

1220
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:57,920
saying I don't necessarily trust the

1221
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,640
firm they have the full capability to do

1222
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,800
it, but just it's a lot writing on one

1223
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,160
firm and that's where at certain

1224
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,079
intervals we might want to bring someone

1225
00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:08,800
in as a third party to provide some

1226
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,760
secondary opinions or support for staff

1227
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,119
for reviews of major milestone

1228
00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:14,240
deliverables. I'm not talking about

1229
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:16,800
hiring a full second independent third

1230
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,040
party uh project manager for us on the

1231
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,280
behalf at this point, but just having

1232
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,200
them available to provide some of those

1233
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,040
independent third party reviews at

1234
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,720
certain junctures where staff identify

1235
00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:29,440
those would require me that scope for

1236
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:30,640
staff to come back to the board and

1237
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,319
request those support services when

1238
00:44:32,319 --> 00:44:34,960
identif So right now, see how it goes

1239
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,440
with the confidence level and where

1240
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:38,880
we're at with the water board with

1241
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,800
updates to our WDRs and where that's

1242
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,319
headed, which is still ongoing

1243
00:44:42,319 --> 00:44:44,560
discussion with ops. Once we have a

1244
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,240
clear picture on that with the the

1245
00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:48,560
updates to the permit and where our

1246
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,400
nutrient loads are currently where they

1247
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,400
could be and there's some major changes

1248
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,520
which see that will drive also us with

1249
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,599
the model in sizing with facility and

1250
00:44:57,599 --> 00:44:59,920
just getting opinions on sizing because

1251
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:01,119
that's the worst thing is we're in

1252
00:45:01,119 --> 00:45:02,720
startup and there's something wrong and

1253
00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:05,200
I think just having that that comfort at

1254
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:06,319
night knowing we had someone else take a

1255
00:45:06,319 --> 00:45:08,800
look and confirm those everything seemed

1256
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,880
to pop would be a prudent thing for

1257
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,880
depending on the associate vendor right

1258
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,800
so That's also a heads up to us. She

1259
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,319
might be hitting us up with another

1260
00:45:16,319 --> 00:45:16,960
contract.

1261
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,230
>> I'm going to be hitting you up with a

1262
00:45:18,230 --> 00:45:18,240
» I'm going to be hitting you up with a

1263
00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:20,960
lot of contract over the next month. So,

1264
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,200
but again, we need CM services for

1265
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,960
digestion

1266
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,280
out that needs to come back for third

1267
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,000
party CM services because that's been

1268
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,599
said there project. Um, and then

1269
00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:35,760
additionally too, we have some

1270
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,359
additional identified needs with some

1271
00:45:37,359 --> 00:45:39,440
projects associated with our SCADA

1272
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,359
upgrades that we're planning long term.

1273
00:45:41,359 --> 00:45:43,599
So the facility is hitting the end of

1274
00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:45,200
its useful life on a lot of our

1275
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:46,960
programmable logic controllers that can

1276
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,280
sell this equipment. And with this

1277
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:50,960
project, we would like to harmonize the

1278
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,880
replacements of those PLC's to position

1279
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,040
the agency that have a cost effective

1280
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,720
solution long-term development support.

1281
00:45:56,720 --> 00:45:58,960
And so with that, there's going to be

1282
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,720
quite a few number of other contracts

1283
00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:02,000
coming forward that we're going to need

1284
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,599
to hire.

1285
00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:06,079
So um and the timing of that is

1286
00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:08,079
something you're working on both from a

1287
00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:09,760
financial perspective with Liz as well

1288
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,880
as with updating that capital program is

1289
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,720
the whole suite and that's something

1290
00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:23,190
we're trying to aim by prom

1291
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,640
um you know you had quite a few firms

1292
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,400
that were interested and you talked to

1293
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,400
them afterwards. What was their reason

1294
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:29,680
for not proposing?

1295
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,270
>> Yeah so I figured I might get this

1296
00:46:31,270 --> 00:46:31,280
» Yeah so I figured I might get this

1297
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,839
question. So to be perfectly honest and

1298
00:46:33,839 --> 00:46:35,680
it's kind of a testament to the work RO

1299
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,240
has done is the amount of upfront effort

1300
00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:40,560
RO has done taken into a 10% and their

1301
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,319
history with this over the last couple

1302
00:46:42,319 --> 00:46:44,160
years made it too large of an effort for

1303
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,920
them to overcome. They didn't think they

1304
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,280
had that same opportunity that it wasn't

1305
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:50,560
I I don't want to say the term a level

1306
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,000
playing field because they had every

1307
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,440
opportunity to propose on it. It was

1308
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,440
publicly advertised. The time frames

1309
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:56,960
were reasonable for them to get a

1310
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,119
proposal to us in. But for a project of

1311
00:46:59,119 --> 00:47:00,480
this size, for a firm to come in from

1312
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,720
the outside and put that that amount of

1313
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:04,319
effort into your proposal, I was hearing

1314
00:47:04,319 --> 00:47:06,960
figures approximately 50 to $100,000

1315
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,240
plus depending on the firm and how much

1316
00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:10,079
effort they want to put into it. And so

1317
00:47:10,079 --> 00:47:12,880
every firm has to weigh their workload,

1318
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,640
their time frame. And so for these other

1319
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,160
firms that I was hoping to get at least

1320
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,640
200 proposals on, they just didn't feel

1321
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,079
confident they could compete with this

1322
00:47:20,079 --> 00:47:22,240
team to receive. And that's what I think

1323
00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:24,319
you're seeing the quality of the number.

1324
00:47:24,319 --> 00:47:26,400
It is a it's a nationwide effort. You

1325
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,560
can't just pull resources from one local

1326
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,480
market for a project of this size. So

1327
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,319
always bring in technical experts from

1328
00:47:32,319 --> 00:47:34,960
folks in Colorado, Florida, few other

1329
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,640
places. I'm sure Tim could talk about

1330
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,280
that that provide the staff, the agency

1331
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,040
that the knowledge knowing we're getting

1332
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,480
those lead roles and they're assigned

1333
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,560
the time for this project roles really

1334
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,560
put those resources in where the other

1335
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,319
firms with their assessments didn't

1336
00:47:48,319 --> 00:47:50,079
think they could compete on putting

1337
00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:52,079
those those resources to use in the

1338
00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:54,800
time.

1339
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,000
stop you know

1340
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,480
any questions comments I have one

1341
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,960
comment

1342
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,079
the Alpine board has been working with

1343
00:48:06,079 --> 00:48:10,160
Corollo on a new development that's been

1344
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:14,000
in the works for 20 years

1345
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,880
and it's a major financial commitment

1346
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,839
and the developer brought in Stantech on

1347
00:48:19,839 --> 00:48:23,920
the other side to work with Corollo to

1348
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,720
uh figure how to get the cost down.

1349
00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:30,000
And the surprise was, well, you need to

1350
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,640
change your standards and your policies

1351
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,640
and procedures

1352
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,720
so that you don't have to deliver as

1353
00:48:36,720 --> 00:48:39,520
high level of service was the response

1354
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,190
from St.

1355
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:44,960
I don't have the final reports or

1356
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,160
anything else, but that was a little bit

1357
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,040
shocking. So yeah, to compromise your

1358
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,800
standards to cut costs and, you know,

1359
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,800
make something happen for whoever else

1360
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:57,040
is paying you, uh, frankly, um, is not a

1361
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:01,430
good sign.

1362
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,319
» Yeah. Are you comfortable with

1363
00:49:04,319 --> 00:49:05,670
>> Yeah.

1364
00:49:05,670 --> 00:49:05,680
» Yeah.

1365
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,400
I I got a a question and you might have

1366
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,960
alluded to what Scott and it got by me,

1367
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,119
but

1368
00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:15,760
I attended the the camp meetings that

1369
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:20,400
Corillo put on and repeatedly I heard

1370
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,040
that

1371
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,720
our agency has a wastewater discharge

1372
00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:30,079
requirement that exceeds any level that

1373
00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:33,839
Carillo has ever worked with before.

1374
00:49:33,839 --> 00:49:35,440
And

1375
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,960
with that being said, Scott,

1376
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:43,280
our wastewater um discharge requirements

1377
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,160
are kind of at a level right now that

1378
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:51,359
Curillo is um preparing to do a design

1379
00:49:51,359 --> 00:49:53,359
phase.

1380
00:49:53,359 --> 00:49:57,280
Are we confident at this agency that our

1381
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,400
WDR is going to stay the same through

1382
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,680
the design phase of this project?

1383
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,520
or at some point in time during the

1384
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,119
design phase of this project, can the

1385
00:50:11,119 --> 00:50:15,119
state come in and intensify

1386
00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:17,760
our WDR requirements?

1387
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,359
I know Tim's going to want responsible,

1388
00:50:19,359 --> 00:50:20,800
but let me

1389
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,950
>> Yeah, let me let me address your comment

1390
00:50:22,950 --> 00:50:22,960
» Yeah, let me let me address your comment

1391
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,240
because what I what I see

1392
00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:29,910
>> is that as we move forward, we have

1393
00:50:29,910 --> 00:50:29,920
» is that as we move forward, we have

1394
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,720
waste discharge requirements that are

1395
00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:36,400
the highest in the industry. And that

1396
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,920
does not mean that they can't go higher.

1397
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:44,720
And if they go higher, is Curillo

1398
00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:47,839
prepared to meet that demand?

1399
00:50:47,839 --> 00:50:50,160
So I I I'm not going to speak directly

1400
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:51,760
on behalf of them, but let me first talk

1401
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,079
about ours and I'll I'll also I want to

1402
00:50:54,079 --> 00:50:57,119
bring Mike on this conversation. So

1403
00:50:57,119 --> 00:50:59,119
currently we're on an existing WDR

1404
00:50:59,119 --> 00:51:00,480
permit that was established after the

1405
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,400
last plan expansion, right? I think it's

1406
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:03,349
>> 2002

1407
00:51:03,349 --> 00:51:03,359
» 2002

1408
00:51:03,359 --> 00:51:05,829
>> 2002. See, that's uh that's 22 years

1409
00:51:05,829 --> 00:51:05,839
» 2002. See, that's uh that's 22 years

1410
00:51:05,839 --> 00:51:06,400
ago.

1411
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,549
>> And that those limits partially were

1412
00:51:08,549 --> 00:51:08,559
» And that those limits partially were

1413
00:51:08,559 --> 00:51:11,119
driven by there was an active and it was

1414
00:51:11,119 --> 00:51:13,599
a settlement between ourselves and some

1415
00:51:13,599 --> 00:51:15,599
other entities that all discharge into

1416
00:51:15,599 --> 00:51:17,680
the Truckucky River. Those discharge

1417
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,319
limits set by our state water board are

1418
00:51:20,319 --> 00:51:22,160
set under the assumption we're not a

1419
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,240
direct discharger to the Truckucky River

1420
00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:27,119
and our limits are driven explicitly.

1421
00:51:27,119 --> 00:51:29,119
And Jason's also very informed on this

1422
00:51:29,119 --> 00:51:30,480
talk about it. So I can we can turn it

1423
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,319
over to a couple people to get to the

1424
00:51:32,319 --> 00:51:34,400
heart of the matter here. We won't know

1425
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:35,680
explicitly what the state's planning,

1426
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,440
but we don't anticipate substantial

1427
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,800
changes to our WDRs. Is that relatively

1428
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:41,520
correct?

1429
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,750
>> That's the the general intuition we're

1430
00:51:43,750 --> 00:51:43,760
» That's the the general intuition we're

1431
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,359
getting based off some preliminary

1432
00:51:45,359 --> 00:51:47,040
conversations with the water board. We

1433
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,839
don't have a draft permanent review, but

1434
00:51:49,839 --> 00:51:51,920
once we do, we'll confirm that. The

1435
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,280
second part of your question was more

1436
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,400
associated with if we did get pushed to

1437
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,240
stricter limits. Let's say we got pushed

1438
00:51:58,240 --> 00:52:00,720
to an M MPDES permit which is a direct

1439
00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:02,640
discharge of the river and they said new

1440
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,839
limits for us at that point is Corollo

1441
00:52:05,839 --> 00:52:07,760
position to adapt to provide us the

1442
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,200
technologies and improvements at the

1443
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,079
facility to meet those lower limits. I

1444
00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:13,680
believe the answer is yes. And because

1445
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,839
they already in their initial study

1446
00:52:15,839 --> 00:52:18,640
evaluated that if your your limits get

1447
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,960
pushed down to a lower level, you're

1448
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,359
talking about intensification systems

1449
00:52:23,359 --> 00:52:25,359
like sideream treatment using reverse

1450
00:52:25,359 --> 00:52:28,079
osmosis that are very cost prohibitive

1451
00:52:28,079 --> 00:52:30,240
and you don't you position and design

1452
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:32,720
the facility to be able to prepare if we

1453
00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:34,800
got pushed in that direction. But we're

1454
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,720
not actively designing to have those in

1455
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:38,640
this project because it would be you

1456
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,400
look at it as a a price per gallon

1457
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,559
treat. is is kind of the holistic look I

1458
00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:44,240
I like to look at with the wastewater

1459
00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:47,200
industry and because of our limits our

1460
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,960
price per gallon treated is is quite a

1461
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,800
bit higher than a lot of other but we'll

1462
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,880
be after this project right now rates

1463
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,079
don't reflect that but we'll be longterm

1464
00:52:56,079 --> 00:52:57,920
more in line with other markets that

1465
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,559
have to treat to these levels right so I

1466
00:53:00,559 --> 00:53:02,319
guess Dale to your point and your

1467
00:53:02,319 --> 00:53:04,800
question this grow team I'm sure has

1468
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,480
staff on hand that can design those

1469
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,839
systems and Ricky confirmed first ice

1470
00:53:09,839 --> 00:53:11,599
cream treatment processes to get our

1471
00:53:11,599 --> 00:53:13,440
limits down to meet future discharge

1472
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,760
requirements if necessary. And what

1473
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,440
plays into that and something I baked

1474
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,040
into this proposal requirement is we

1475
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,000
currently use sodium chloride. We moved

1476
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,000
away from chlorine gas and there were

1477
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,240
always concerns associated with TDS with

1478
00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:28,640
our permit. The intent is that if

1479
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,160
longterm we have issues with our

1480
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,640
disinfection technology. currently using

1481
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,240
impacting permanent limits in the

1482
00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:36,079
future. We could implement something

1483
00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:39,280
like a ultraviolet UV system that can

1484
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,280
disinfect instead that doesn't tick us

1485
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:45,119
out. And so with that expectation from

1486
00:53:45,119 --> 00:53:47,119
Corolla with this team is to design the

1487
00:53:47,119 --> 00:53:49,760
facility to accommodate a future and and

1488
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,520
this will be a PDR juncture point at the

1489
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,680
camp is we have sodium hypocchlorite

1490
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,200
tanks that are going to be three or 4

1491
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:56,960
hundred yards away from the proposed

1492
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,640
site. So we're going to either dog leg

1493
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,640
out or bring a pipe over to this new

1494
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,880
facility to connect those tanks in or we

1495
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,720
can look at the cost of doing UV now

1496
00:54:04,720 --> 00:54:06,640
versus at a later date and that

1497
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,800
positions us again as well for being

1498
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,960
like ready for a permit change with UV

1499
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,359
already in place. Right? So there's a

1500
00:54:13,359 --> 00:54:15,839
lot of moving pieces here but I have the

1501
00:54:15,839 --> 00:54:17,760
utmost confidence this team is is a

1502
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,520
nationwide team that have seen quite a

1503
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,359
few of these things. They they have to

1504
00:54:21,359 --> 00:54:23,359
make assumptions that are within cost

1505
00:54:23,359 --> 00:54:25,920
justifications for us as a community for

1506
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,079
what we need to mean currently and then

1507
00:54:28,079 --> 00:54:30,000
plan for the future but not necessarily

1508
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,440
implement at this time because it would

1509
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,599
be overly cost prohibitive to put in a

1510
00:54:33,599 --> 00:54:36,000
side street Maro treatment and jack the

1511
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,920
price of treatment way up if we don't

1512
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,720
need to. So planning for it having the

1513
00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:42,400
space available and the design ready

1514
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,400
that if we want to implement a future

1515
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:45,839
improvement that can bring our limits

1516
00:54:45,839 --> 00:54:47,839
down that was the whole driver behind

1517
00:54:47,839 --> 00:54:50,559
going with the membrane facility. Sorry.

1518
00:54:50,559 --> 00:54:51,440
Rick, you want to add anything?

1519
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,589
>> Yeah, just Dale uh director Cox, I just

1520
00:54:53,589 --> 00:54:53,599
» Yeah, just Dale uh director Cox, I just

1521
00:54:53,599 --> 00:54:55,839
wanted to direct the record on on the

1522
00:54:55,839 --> 00:54:59,359
statement about um having designed

1523
00:54:59,359 --> 00:55:01,520
facilities that have these low nutrient

1524
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,839
limits. So, we have designed several

1525
00:55:03,839 --> 00:55:05,280
facilities that have your current low

1526
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,720
nutrient limits. So, the the TN 3

1527
00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:10,800
milligrams per liter total nitrogen and

1528
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,760
total phosphorus of.3. Um, currently

1529
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,359
Truckucky Meadows Water Reclamation

1530
00:55:15,359 --> 00:55:17,599
Facility down the hill, Reno has similar

1531
00:55:17,599 --> 00:55:19,520
limits to to this facility as well as

1532
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,000
several designed in Florida in Colorado

1533
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,319
and other places. Um, I think what you

1534
00:55:24,319 --> 00:55:26,160
were thinking was the lower limits, the

1535
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,680
potential lower limits that we talked

1536
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:31,040
about if you had to go to an NPES permit

1537
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,599
that we were talking about a TN of um I

1538
00:55:33,599 --> 00:55:36,240
think it was a TN of one and a half and

1539
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:39,839
a TP of 01. those are limits that no

1540
00:55:39,839 --> 00:55:42,480
other facility currently has in in the

1541
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,160
country. And so I think that's that's

1542
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:45,839
where that confusion was. So yeah, there

1543
00:55:45,839 --> 00:55:47,520
have been facilities designed to those

1544
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,920
low limits and those would require um

1545
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:51,839
adding in something like uh like what

1546
00:55:51,839 --> 00:55:54,000
Scott was talking about a partial RO to

1547
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:55,920
to potentially to get there because of

1548
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,760
the salt organic nitrogen that's really

1549
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:58,880
hard to remove and it's something that

1550
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:00,640
Tom's looking at right now currently as

1551
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,280
well because of of where they're uh

1552
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,680
they're are currently with their permit

1553
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,119
with the ND. So anyway, but um as far as

1554
00:56:09,119 --> 00:56:10,799
the the current limits, the three and

1555
00:56:10,799 --> 00:56:13,440
the.3, we have design of the facilities

1556
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,200
that meet those and we're highly

1557
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,359
confident that that we yeah, we won't

1558
00:56:17,359 --> 00:56:19,119
have any trouble getting there with our

1559
00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:21,440
design. Also wanted to say that the

1560
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,359
selected alternative, the one of the

1561
00:56:23,359 --> 00:56:25,359
reasons we selected this alternative and

1562
00:56:25,359 --> 00:56:27,200
your staff selected this alternative was

1563
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,040
because it's the best available

1564
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:30,720
technology to meet those limits

1565
00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:32,160
currently. And so we wanted to best

1566
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,480
position the agency to not only meet the

1567
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,240
current limits, but if you did get more

1568
00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:37,839
strict limits in the future that you'd

1569
00:56:37,839 --> 00:56:39,280
be best positioned to meet those as

1570
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:39,760
well.

1571
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,670
>> You're confident that you can meet the

1572
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:41,680
» You're confident that you can meet the

1573
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:46,240
if if there is a a surge in

1574
00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:49,359
in intensity in our WDR. You're

1575
00:56:49,359 --> 00:56:51,359
confident that you can meet that meet

1576
00:56:51,359 --> 00:56:53,119
that goal

1577
00:56:53,119 --> 00:56:54,710
>> if if it gets more stringent.

1578
00:56:54,710 --> 00:56:54,720
» if if it gets more stringent.

1579
00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:58,630
>> Yes. We there there with the current the

1580
00:56:58,630 --> 00:56:58,640
» Yes. We there there with the current the

1581
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,079
current alternative the way it's laid

1582
00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:02,720
out we're we're designing it to meet the

1583
00:57:02,720 --> 00:57:04,799
3 and.3. If it gets more strategic

1584
00:57:04,799 --> 00:57:05,760
there's probably going to be some

1585
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,000
add-ons. We'll have to evaluate what

1586
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,280
gets added on to it. Um but there's ways

1587
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:12,480
to do that and we'll have to look at

1588
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,799
strategy. So another strategy could be

1589
00:57:14,799 --> 00:57:17,119
maybe look at you know reducing the

1590
00:57:17,119 --> 00:57:18,720
amount of discharge you know to the

1591
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,200
river or to to the uh not to the river

1592
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,079
but to the uh disposal field right. um

1593
00:57:24,079 --> 00:57:27,839
if there's ways to offset with um

1594
00:57:27,839 --> 00:57:29,200
purchasing water rights so you're not

1595
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:30,960
discharging as much out of it. It gets

1596
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,480
complicated but there's other strategies

1597
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,400
that could be looked at in addition to

1598
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,079
to the treatment. So, it's an

1599
00:57:36,079 --> 00:57:38,240
interesting time with the PDR and in it

1600
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:39,920
works. So, I keep saying 100 because

1601
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,319
that's like the picture I want all of us

1602
00:57:42,319 --> 00:57:44,640
is we need to come around a long-term

1603
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,559
solution for this facility in the

1604
00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:47,839
region, right? Whether it's this

1605
00:57:47,839 --> 00:57:49,680
direction or you know, we would have

1606
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,280
changed directions on and gone a

1607
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:52,480
different route. We we have to come up

1608
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,559
with a plan that we can base financial

1609
00:57:54,559 --> 00:57:56,640
decisions off of for Liz, but also

1610
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,440
benefit and ensure long treat long-term

1611
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,240
treatment solutions for the area. And so

1612
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,960
with the WDR and the water board, we

1613
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:06,559
have been given a a general

1614
00:58:06,559 --> 00:58:07,920
understanding that by the end of the

1615
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,839
year, we should be getting a draft

1616
00:58:09,839 --> 00:58:13,680
version of that. Um, with that said,

1617
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,040
that will give us a better picture of

1618
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:16,960
where they are trying to go with our

1619
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,040
permit. And that's right in line with

1620
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,119
the timing of this PDR getting word that

1621
00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:23,359
we could be in contract with Rolo them

1622
00:58:23,359 --> 00:58:25,440
designing and for some reason the water

1623
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,839
board pushed us to revision to that

1624
00:58:27,839 --> 00:58:29,760
permit that lowered the standards. The

1625
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,680
PDR immediately is going to have to

1626
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,319
shift to address that concern and issue.

1627
00:58:34,319 --> 00:58:36,240
There might be talks about assumptions

1628
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,200
made by Corollo assuming that

1629
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,359
information best best presented shows

1630
00:58:41,359 --> 00:58:42,960
that our discharge limits aren't going

1631
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:44,640
to change based off those conversations

1632
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,960
with the water board. But we will not

1633
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,079
know that guaranteed until that process

1634
00:58:50,079 --> 00:58:50,880
starts.

1635
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,190
>> Just so just so it's out there and we're

1636
00:58:53,190 --> 00:58:53,200
» Just so just so it's out there and we're

1637
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:54,720
aware of it,

1638
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,990
>> this is a industry rife with unfunded

1639
00:58:57,990 --> 00:58:58,000
» this is a industry rife with unfunded

1640
00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:58,720
mandates.

1641
00:58:58,720 --> 00:58:59,349
>> Yeah.

1642
00:58:59,349 --> 00:58:59,359
» Yeah.

1643
00:58:59,359 --> 00:59:01,349
>> Everybody in the entire country and

1644
00:59:01,349 --> 00:59:01,359
» Everybody in the entire country and

1645
00:59:01,359 --> 00:59:04,480
especially in California, the Bay Area

1646
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,559
just got hit. Everybody down there is

1647
00:59:06,559 --> 00:59:08,000
scrambling because they have nutrient

1648
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:09,760
limits. They never had nutrient limits

1649
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,000
in the past. Now they do. None of those

1650
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,240
facilities are designed for that. So

1651
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:15,920
everybody down there were panicking.

1652
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,359
They're talking tens and tens of

1653
00:59:17,359 --> 00:59:19,040
billions of dollars of infrastructure

1654
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,119
wings get put in into Bay Area. No one

1655
00:59:21,119 --> 00:59:23,440
knew that was going to happen 12 months

1656
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:27,119
before it happened. If and when we get

1657
00:59:27,119 --> 00:59:29,680
any kind of unfunded mandate, reduced

1658
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,440
limits, whatever it looks like, we're

1659
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,839
not going to get a ton of notice. The

1660
00:59:33,839 --> 00:59:36,160
reason we selected this alternative was

1661
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,079
because this is the one that allows us

1662
00:59:38,079 --> 00:59:40,640
to design to meet what we need to now

1663
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,480
because it would be irresponsible to

1664
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:43,920
spend the money to meet something we

1665
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:47,119
don't need to. And if the event comes

1666
00:59:47,119 --> 00:59:49,839
up, oh, all of a sudden our limits are

1667
00:59:49,839 --> 00:59:52,240
ridiculous, then we have the opportunity

1668
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,280
to plug and play as easily as possible

1669
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,160
to get us compliant. Um, there were

1670
00:59:58,160 --> 00:59:59,200
Yeah, go ahead.

1671
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,190
>> No, go ahead, pitch. There were other

1672
01:00:01,190 --> 01:00:01,200
» No, go ahead, pitch. There were other

1673
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,599
alternatives that were capable of doing

1674
01:00:03,599 --> 01:00:05,520
what we're proposing doing with this

1675
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,079
alternative that were cheaper but were

1676
01:00:08,079 --> 01:00:10,240
much less adaptable to that

1677
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,319
plug-and-play alternative.

1678
01:00:12,319 --> 01:00:14,470
>> I want to add one thing. So, Director

1679
01:00:14,470 --> 01:00:14,480
» I want to add one thing. So, Director

1680
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,480
Cox, one thing I wanted to make sure you

1681
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,559
are comfortable with is this is a

1682
01:00:18,559 --> 01:00:20,400
municipal plant, but we also have a

1683
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:21,920
whole other group that deals with

1684
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,920
industry related to data centers and

1685
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,799
others that treat ultra pure water for

1686
01:00:26,799 --> 01:00:28,640
processing and cooling towers. And we're

1687
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,799
actually designing a facility out in the

1688
01:00:30,799 --> 01:00:32,799
Reno Tahoe Industrial Center right now

1689
01:00:32,799 --> 01:00:34,799
that is a zero liquid discharge ultra

1690
01:00:34,799 --> 01:00:37,280
pure water facility RO and we've done

1691
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,520
this all over the country for for um

1692
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,480
private sector group clients Intel TSMC

1693
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,720
and others. So we have that capability

1694
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,280
and staff to treat to those levels

1695
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,119
doesn't get applied to IND to municipal

1696
01:00:49,119 --> 01:00:51,520
clients very often if ever cost

1697
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,670
>> because of cost. So this is at the

1698
01:00:53,670 --> 01:00:53,680
» because of cost. So this is at the

1699
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:54,799
facility we're designing out at the

1700
01:00:54,799 --> 01:00:57,440
Tarino Wing Center is a $187 million

1701
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,480
facility for 2MGD. So there's a lot of

1702
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,480
things at play there that we have dealt

1703
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,160
with in the past related to those ultra

1704
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,640
pure limits. So, I hope that helps you

1705
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:07,280
understand that.

1706
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,710
>> That helps me uh because as as we go

1707
01:01:10,710 --> 01:01:10,720
» That helps me uh because as as we go

1708
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,720
through this discussion, and it's been

1709
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:16,480
several months now, um the the

1710
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:20,559
possibility of of having this agency be

1711
01:01:20,559 --> 01:01:25,119
hit with a a more strict WDR and what

1712
01:01:25,119 --> 01:01:27,599
kind of effect would that have on the

1713
01:01:27,599 --> 01:01:29,760
direction we're headed right now? It's

1714
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:34,000
kind of a moving target and uh as I see

1715
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:38,400
it, it could be an an incredible amount

1716
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:43,040
of money added to our plan. And um

1717
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:43,990
>> so just

1718
01:01:43,990 --> 01:01:44,000
» so just

1719
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,309
>> gives me a vote of confidence that if

1720
01:01:46,309 --> 01:01:46,319
» gives me a vote of confidence that if

1721
01:01:46,319 --> 01:01:49,520
you say that your team can meet and

1722
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:54,000
exceed any kind of of uh of increased

1723
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,680
WDR requirements on our behalf,

1724
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,240
I'm good with it.

1725
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,400
So my my question to you Jason is the

1726
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,079
water the water board meetings are

1727
01:02:04,079 --> 01:02:05,760
public when we could attend.

1728
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,430
>> Yeah the reason why

1729
01:02:07,430 --> 01:02:07,440
» Yeah the reason why

1730
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,390
>> and you send out the dates for those

1731
01:02:10,390 --> 01:02:10,400
» and you send out the dates for those

1732
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:10,880
for sure.

1733
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,750
>> I personally think a board member or two

1734
01:02:13,750 --> 01:02:13,760
» I personally think a board member or two

1735
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,000
showing up with a commentary that says

1736
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:17,760
hey these are the strictest already and

1737
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,280
to go further you're going to bankrupt

1738
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,480
you know the community. Um needs to be

1739
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:23,040
said.

1740
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,589
>> Yeah. Uh again, as as Scott mentioned,

1741
01:02:25,589 --> 01:02:25,599
» Yeah. Uh again, as as Scott mentioned,

1742
01:02:25,599 --> 01:02:27,760
we we don't have a crystal ball, but

1743
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,760
we've got no indication they plan on

1744
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,440
going that direction.

1745
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,349
>> This is a policy.

1746
01:02:33,349 --> 01:02:33,359
» This is a policy.

1747
01:02:33,359 --> 01:02:36,470
>> We all know Maui decision and how it

1748
01:02:36,470 --> 01:02:36,480
» We all know Maui decision and how it

1749
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,079
could potentially impact us. We there we

1750
01:02:38,079 --> 01:02:40,000
just unfortunately we don't I would love

1751
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,040
to know. I would almost rather knowing

1752
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,359
that it's going strict, you know, and

1753
01:02:45,359 --> 01:02:47,440
just get it done than have it hanging

1754
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,280
over us. But

1755
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,190
>> and and staff did initiate the

1756
01:02:51,190 --> 01:02:51,200
» and and staff did initiate the

1757
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,359
conversations with the water board to

1758
01:02:53,359 --> 01:02:55,119
look for revisions to our permit, not

1759
01:02:55,119 --> 01:02:57,280
just to verify the discharge limits, but

1760
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:58,880
there were some other things was looking

1761
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:03,040
for. Um the reason I bring it up is a

1762
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,200
lot of times to Jason's point,

1763
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:06,640
wastewater treatment facilities get hit

1764
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,000
with new nutrient limits kind of out of

1765
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,160
the blue and they have to scramble to

1766
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,319
address those. In our case, we're trying

1767
01:03:12,319 --> 01:03:16,480
to plan long-term CIP around fiscally

1768
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,000
sound decision decisions with our

1769
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,079
budget. And so, we wanted to force the

1770
01:03:20,079 --> 01:03:22,480
conversation to ensure the water board

1771
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,359
wasn't going to as we're approaching 90%

1772
01:03:25,359 --> 01:03:27,200
design with this project get hit with

1773
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,520
lower limits after the fact. They still

1774
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,440
do it, but the idea is that if we have

1775
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,680
them revisit our permit now and we can

1776
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:35,119
get that in time to know that our limits

1777
01:03:35,119 --> 01:03:36,480
aren't going to change, then it's an

1778
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,400
economically and fiscally sound policy

1779
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,960
to design this specific system. If they

1780
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,640
change something, then inevitably that

1781
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,559
is a risk the agency is going to have to

1782
01:03:44,559 --> 01:03:46,640
take is that we're marching down after a

1783
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:50,160
PDR and then the water board did that to

1784
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,079
director Clement's point. That's when

1785
01:03:52,079 --> 01:03:53,760
you start talking about rate to treat,

1786
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:55,520
right? And the cost incurred on rate

1787
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,520
pairs and and then the state's

1788
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,760
willingness to hear those commentary

1789
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,079
points. But a lot of it's just driven by

1790
01:04:02,079 --> 01:04:04,240
the EPA and what they want to see out of

1791
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,400
water body.

1792
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:10,079
But but kind of on the WDR

1793
01:04:10,079 --> 01:04:11,760
um

1794
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:15,359
limit setting process that that does go

1795
01:04:15,359 --> 01:04:17,440
through public board hearing. So I think

1796
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,359
the way that would typically play out is

1797
01:04:19,359 --> 01:04:22,160
right now it's at a staff level of uh

1798
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,839
dialogue at some point. There will be

1799
01:04:25,839 --> 01:04:28,559
communication from their staff to us

1800
01:04:28,559 --> 01:04:31,839
saying here's what we're looking at. Uh,

1801
01:04:31,839 --> 01:04:34,480
and then if that's

1802
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,119
something we feel like we're comfortable

1803
01:04:37,119 --> 01:04:39,280
with, then there's probably not a whole

1804
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,680
lot of lobbying. And

1805
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:45,109
>> yeah, at that point we're like, this

1806
01:04:45,109 --> 01:04:45,119
» yeah, at that point we're like, this

1807
01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:47,839
could be a big deal. That's where we,

1808
01:04:47,839 --> 01:04:49,760
you know, think about what's the

1809
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,319
political strategy to, you know,

1810
01:04:52,319 --> 01:04:55,280
potentially try to create an influence

1811
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:56,640
on that. Seems like it's a little

1812
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:58,000
premature right now.

1813
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,710
>> I I would agree with that.

1814
01:05:00,710 --> 01:05:00,720
» I I would agree with that.

1815
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:04,160
I think we need to find out what our new

1816
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,160
discharge requirements are and not draw

1817
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:09,039
a lot of public attention to it until it

1818
01:05:09,039 --> 01:05:10,400
becomes an issue needing to be

1819
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:11,680
addressed. Right.

1820
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:13,190
>> See what they are. I mean that's that's

1821
01:05:13,190 --> 01:05:13,200
» See what they are. I mean that's that's

1822
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:14,160
the end of the process.

1823
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:15,510
>> Not see what they are but preliminary

1824
01:05:15,510 --> 01:05:15,520
» Not see what they are but preliminary

1825
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,760
numbers that they're planning that

1826
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:19,359
should be proposed.

1827
01:05:19,359 --> 01:05:21,270
>> Right.

1828
01:05:21,270 --> 01:05:21,280
» Right.

1829
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,920
It's a risk and staff feel pretty

1830
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:26,000
comfortable that this plan has

1831
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,319
identified enough resources toward

1832
01:05:28,319 --> 01:05:30,799
mitigating a potential risk that it

1833
01:05:30,799 --> 01:05:33,359
gives us enough of a safety blanket in

1834
01:05:33,359 --> 01:05:34,960
the event that it happens, but we're not

1835
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:36,079
going to waste a bunch of money going

1836
01:05:36,079 --> 01:05:38,000
down that road just yet.

1837
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,270
>> I I think what I'm hearing is that that

1838
01:05:41,270 --> 01:05:41,280
» I I think what I'm hearing is that that

1839
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,079
risk is the risk no matter what if

1840
01:05:44,079 --> 01:05:46,559
that's this plan that we currently have

1841
01:05:46,559 --> 01:05:48,079
or it would have been one of the other

1842
01:05:48,079 --> 01:05:51,920
options. What I'm hearing is the plant

1843
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:59,430
we're looking at has perhaps the best

1844
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,480
I think you call it plugandplay option

1845
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:06,079
going forward that that plan would be

1846
01:06:06,079 --> 01:06:07,839
the easiest one to

1847
01:06:07,839 --> 01:06:08,470
>> adapt

1848
01:06:08,470 --> 01:06:08,480
» adapt

1849
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:10,870
>> adapt. Thank you. That was what was

1850
01:06:10,870 --> 01:06:10,880
» adapt. Thank you. That was what was

1851
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:12,400
identified in the report is this

1852
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,559
positions us best out of all the

1853
01:06:14,559 --> 01:06:16,559
existing current treatment options on

1854
01:06:16,559 --> 01:06:18,799
the market to achieve our current limits

1855
01:06:18,799 --> 01:06:21,839
and positions us for lower future

1856
01:06:21,839 --> 01:06:23,599
limits. But we would have to add

1857
01:06:23,599 --> 01:06:25,599
additional processes to get down because

1858
01:06:25,599 --> 01:06:27,119
because if you were going to RO you'd

1859
01:06:27,119 --> 01:06:28,720
have to have a membrane process ahead of

1860
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:30,559
that RO anyway. So you'd have to have

1861
01:06:30,559 --> 01:06:31,920
ultra filtration or membrane that

1862
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:33,839
process ahead of that. So you're already

1863
01:06:33,839 --> 01:06:38,000
putting in the membrane process. So

1864
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,549
>> thank you Scott. I didn't mean to throw

1865
01:06:40,549 --> 01:06:40,559
» thank you Scott. I didn't mean to throw

1866
01:06:40,559 --> 01:06:43,119
that in there, but it's a moving target

1867
01:06:43,119 --> 01:06:45,440
and um

1868
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,359
you you guys gave me a vote of

1869
01:06:47,359 --> 01:06:50,960
confidence that uh we can get this we

1870
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:54,160
can get this done if we have that

1871
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:55,680
anomaly happen.

1872
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,710
>> It's a good point.

1873
01:06:58,710 --> 01:06:58,720
» It's a good point.

1874
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,910
>> We have any more comments or questions?

1875
01:07:01,910 --> 01:07:01,920
» We have any more comments or questions?

1876
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:05,990
>> Government,

1877
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:06,799
please.

1878
01:07:06,799 --> 01:07:10,230
>> Indeed. I'll make a motion to

1879
01:07:10,230 --> 01:07:10,240
» Indeed. I'll make a motion to

1880
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:11,680
I'm going to read it right now. Yeah.

1881
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:13,280
Approve the nutrient removal

1882
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,680
improvements project engineering design

1883
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:16,799
contract.

1884
01:07:16,799 --> 01:07:18,549
>> Second

1885
01:07:18,549 --> 01:07:18,559
» Second

1886
01:07:18,559 --> 01:07:21,839
now not to exceed

1887
01:07:21,839 --> 01:07:25,119
uh 187 or what was it?

1888
01:07:25,119 --> 01:07:26,870
>> So the language is we would sign a

1889
01:07:26,870 --> 01:07:26,880
» So the language is we would sign a

1890
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:31,440
contract withdrawal for that 18,600

1891
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,880
98,000 approximately. The not to exceed

1892
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:36,640
is that amount. any additional amount

1893
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:38,400
they want to charge has to come to us in

1894
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,000
writing with a request for an amendment

1895
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:41,839
for a scope and fee. Staff would be

1896
01:07:41,839 --> 01:07:44,079
authorized to spend up to 19.3 million

1897
01:07:44,079 --> 01:07:45,839
without having to come back to the board

1898
01:07:45,839 --> 01:07:47,599
for authorization of additional funds

1899
01:07:47,599 --> 01:07:49,760
for this project. So instead of every

1900
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,319
time we have scope creep in the past we

1901
01:07:52,319 --> 01:07:54,079
have to come back to you to ask for $5

1902
01:07:54,079 --> 01:07:55,760
and it takes me 20 minutes to explain

1903
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:57,920
why we need $5 and in this case that's

1904
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,559
per exaggeration but that there's a

1905
01:08:00,559 --> 01:08:02,160
reasonable expectation that we need a

1906
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:03,599
little bit of contingency in there for

1907
01:08:03,599 --> 01:08:07,039
things. I lowered it to 3%. On smaller

1908
01:08:07,039 --> 01:08:08,400
projects, you might see a number like

1909
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,119
10%. Right? Where if it's a $200,000

1910
01:08:11,119 --> 01:08:14,000
job, design fees with engineers can vary

1911
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,520
with one task could take up to 10%,000

1912
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,159
scope and beed. So in this case, we try

1913
01:08:20,159 --> 01:08:22,560
to throw out the 3% optimization as a

1914
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,000
reasonable level that the board would

1915
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,239
trust staff that be within a working

1916
01:08:26,239 --> 01:08:28,719
range within the project's overall scope

1917
01:08:28,719 --> 01:08:30,239
before needing to come back for a major

1918
01:08:30,239 --> 01:08:33,440
scope for something substantial like

1919
01:08:33,440 --> 01:08:37,279
designing a side stream or or building

1920
01:08:37,279 --> 01:08:42,709
something that was not planned to.

1921
01:08:42,719 --> 01:08:46,159
» Okay, Rochelle, could you um repeat the

1922
01:08:46,159 --> 01:08:48,239
motion on the floor, please? We have a

1923
01:08:48,239 --> 01:08:50,319
motion by Director Hanssburg and a

1924
01:08:50,319 --> 01:08:52,719
second by Director Clement for the

1925
01:08:52,719 --> 01:08:55,440
approval of the nutrient removal

1926
01:08:55,440 --> 01:08:57,920
improvements project engineering design

1927
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:01,359
contract. All in favor?

1928
01:09:01,359 --> 01:09:07,910
>> I I

1929
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,799
I'd like to make a a comment since I've

1930
01:09:10,799 --> 01:09:13,199
been on this board. This was the best

1931
01:09:13,199 --> 01:09:16,480
discussion and best questions and

1932
01:09:16,480 --> 01:09:19,279
comments of anything that in the last

1933
01:09:19,279 --> 01:09:22,159
three years that I participated. So big

1934
01:09:22,159 --> 01:09:25,040
deal

1935
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:26,560
a lot more discussions.

1936
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:27,829
>> Well, I'm glad we got rid of all the

1937
01:09:27,829 --> 01:09:27,839
» Well, I'm glad we got rid of all the

1938
01:09:27,839 --> 01:09:36,390
slackers. That's good.

1939
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:38,799
» Sorry. Couldn't help it.

1940
01:09:38,799 --> 01:09:40,789
>> That's a tough act to follow in. I lost

1941
01:09:40,789 --> 01:09:40,799
» That's a tough act to follow in. I lost

1942
01:09:40,799 --> 01:09:42,880
half of my audience. So, I'm not take

1943
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:45,679
that personal, guys. Thanks.

1944
01:09:45,679 --> 01:09:48,080
They're tired of the sound of mine.

1945
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:49,430
>> Sorry, I didn't move it ahead.

1946
01:09:49,430 --> 01:09:49,440
» Sorry, I didn't move it ahead.

1947
01:09:49,440 --> 01:09:50,789
>> That's all right. I'm gonna just take a

1948
01:09:50,789 --> 01:09:50,799
» That's all right. I'm gonna just take a

1949
01:09:50,799 --> 01:09:53,120
technology break. Here we go.

1950
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:53,910
>> We're good.

1951
01:09:53,910 --> 01:09:53,920
» We're good.

1952
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,229
>> Right. Well, good morning, President

1953
01:09:56,229 --> 01:09:56,239
» Right. Well, good morning, President

1954
01:09:56,239 --> 01:09:58,000
Wilson, members of the board. I

1955
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,000
constantly fail to introduce myself here

1956
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,840
because I feel like everyone is tired of

1957
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,000
hearing the sound of my voice, but I'm

1958
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:05,840
Liz Cook, your fearless finance leader,

1959
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:07,760
and I'm here today to take care of

1960
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:09,760
something in my realm is called

1961
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,159
housekeeping. in your realm is probably

1962
01:10:12,159 --> 01:10:14,000
a much bigger and more significant

1963
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,840
moment because I don't believe that we

1964
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:17,520
have done a reimbursement resolution

1965
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:19,280
before. So, I'm going to quickly walk

1966
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:20,880
you through what the housekeeping item

1967
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,280
is and this is going to kick us off on

1968
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,600
our debt journey. I have stood at this

1969
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:27,920
podium. I have stood sat in this room

1970
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,400
around the table at a Corollo camp and

1971
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,640
held conversations about when it would

1972
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,640
be time to issue debt, the steps that

1973
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:36,480
need to happen until I have the

1974
01:10:36,480 --> 01:10:38,320
documents or I have the data to build

1975
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:39,679
documents that I need to take to the

1976
01:10:39,679 --> 01:10:41,920
rating agency. We've been working on all

1977
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:43,840
of that. So, this is our first official

1978
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,159
step with the reimbursement resolution.

1979
01:10:46,159 --> 01:10:48,239
What is it? It's a legal document that

1980
01:10:48,239 --> 01:10:49,760
I'm requesting that you approve in

1981
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,400
science day that gives us the ability

1982
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,679
from 60 days prior. So if you approve it

1983
01:10:55,679 --> 01:10:58,400
today, I could go back to July 17th and

1984
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,320
anytime this fiscal year that I issue

1985
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,560
debt, I can reimburse our toppers for

1986
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:04,719
any money that's been spent. Now, that

1987
01:11:04,719 --> 01:11:06,480
would be a super cool story if I was

1988
01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:07,600
going to tell you we spent millions of

1989
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:09,120
dollars already this year. We spent less

1990
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:10,880
than a hundred on the two projects that

1991
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:12,880
are tied to this. But the approval of

1992
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,120
the Corollo contract today really sets

1993
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:16,719
that wheels in motion. They're going to

1994
01:11:16,719 --> 01:11:18,000
be working and billing and we're going

1995
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:21,440
to start seeing invoices. So today I'm

1996
01:11:21,440 --> 01:11:23,120
asking us to preserve the agency's

1997
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:24,880
ability to recover these costs that have

1998
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:26,560
been incurred or will be incurred

1999
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,199
through this fiscal year. This action

2000
01:11:29,199 --> 01:11:31,920
does not authorize the agency to

2001
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,239
actually issue debt. It just says should

2002
01:11:34,239 --> 01:11:38,480
you you now have the ability to do this.

2003
01:11:38,480 --> 01:11:41,199
Last month the governance document that

2004
01:11:41,199 --> 01:11:42,560
said I don't have to come here and speak

2005
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:43,920
to you every single month about our

2006
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,000
monthly financials. That was a good move

2007
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:47,520
because I'm still going to be here every

2008
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:49,199
single month talking about our debt

2009
01:11:49,199 --> 01:11:52,159
journey. Um, we have lots of things to

2010
01:11:52,159 --> 01:11:55,679
cover as a board. Um, I am working with

2011
01:11:55,679 --> 01:11:57,600
Steven Gartler who has come here as our

2012
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,040
financial analyst. I'm actually meeting

2013
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,120
with him tomorrow afternoon to kick off

2014
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:04,239
what our calendar looks like. Um, what

2015
01:12:04,239 --> 01:12:06,400
agenda items we will have for you all

2016
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:08,960
and when we can have a workshop. I'm

2017
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:10,640
looking to spend some dates out there

2018
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,640
for you all in October so that we can

2019
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:15,360
have our debt 101 workshop. You've heard

2020
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:18,320
words like SRF1,

2021
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:21,520
bank line of credit, um bond market.

2022
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:23,040
Those are all terms that I deal with

2023
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:24,400
every single day and you're only going

2024
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,640
to hear on occasion. So, the that 101

2025
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:28,480
workshop will do two things. It will

2026
01:12:28,480 --> 01:12:30,960
give you definitions. It will also try

2027
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:32,880
to point you to questions you should ask

2028
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,040
when Stephen and I are spanning here,

2029
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:36,400
items that you should look for in

2030
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,239
documents that we put forward for your

2031
01:12:38,239 --> 01:12:42,000
approval. Sound like a good game plan?

2032
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,159
All right, that was the short condensed

2033
01:12:44,159 --> 01:12:46,159
version of the presentation. I saved my

2034
01:12:46,159 --> 01:12:48,159
words for Scott. He still has another

2035
01:12:48,159 --> 01:12:50,480
presentation to go. Um, but I would like

2036
01:12:50,480 --> 01:12:51,760
to turn it over and answer any questions

2037
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:53,199
that the board might have about this

2038
01:12:53,199 --> 01:12:57,430
reinforce my resolution.

2039
01:12:57,440 --> 01:13:02,480
Liz, he uh used the term benefit

2040
01:13:02,480 --> 01:13:07,199
of plans. So if um if we had not issued

2041
01:13:07,199 --> 01:13:10,560
debt by the end of this fiscal year, but

2042
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:12,320
and then we still have expenditures in

2043
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:13,840
the next fiscal year, would we just do

2044
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:15,920
another reimbursement resolution for

2045
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:16,800
next fiscal year?

2046
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:17,910
>> It's my understanding that I'll be

2047
01:13:17,910 --> 01:13:17,920
» It's my understanding that I'll be

2048
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:19,040
bringing you this reimbursement

2049
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,040
resolution every year going forward

2050
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:22,400
because we're going to be facing with

2051
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,120
multiple uh debt vehicles. Maybe we'll

2052
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:26,960
issue multiple issuances to the bond

2053
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:28,880
debt. Maybe we'll have a SRF loan and

2054
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:30,960
some bond debt. Um, and so we want to

2055
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:32,000
identify that.

2056
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:33,110
>> Yeah, thanks.

2057
01:13:33,110 --> 01:13:33,120
» Yeah, thanks.

2058
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:34,709
>> Add more words to that answer even

2059
01:13:34,709 --> 01:13:34,719
» Add more words to that answer even

2060
01:13:34,719 --> 01:13:36,000
though you didn't ask this. I did

2061
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:37,600
include two projects. This isn't for

2062
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,199
every capital dollar out. It's only

2063
01:13:39,199 --> 01:13:40,640
capital dollars associated with

2064
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,440
digestion improvement and the nutrient.

2065
01:13:43,440 --> 01:13:46,390
>> Yeah. Good. Thanks.

2066
01:13:46,390 --> 01:13:46,400
» Yeah. Good. Thanks.

2067
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,229
>> My question was sort of along that line

2068
01:13:48,229 --> 01:13:48,239
» My question was sort of along that line

2069
01:13:48,239 --> 01:13:50,159
too was 20 million. I was like, how do

2070
01:13:50,159 --> 01:13:52,400
you like determine the amount? But I

2071
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,800
guess if it's just for the fiscal year,

2072
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:56,480
um, that makes sense. I didn't know if

2073
01:13:56,480 --> 01:13:59,440
we had to put a limit on it. I put a

2074
01:13:59,440 --> 01:14:00,960
limit on it for this year because that

2075
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:02,640
is the capacity of debt that I believe

2076
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:04,400
that we can spend. Stephen and I have

2077
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:06,159
been making charts. I brought Mountain

2078
01:14:06,159 --> 01:14:07,679
and Bar charts here to say, I think it's

2079
01:14:07,679 --> 01:14:09,120
here. I think it's here. Oh, we're going

2080
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,040
to be right here. That spending trend

2081
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:14,000
has now started. And so the 20 million

2082
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,560
um also is noted to be maybe 10 to 15

2083
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:18,480
year bonds, not that 30-year BL because

2084
01:14:18,480 --> 01:14:20,560
it's a little expensive right now. Um,

2085
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:22,400
so we'll be bringing back information

2086
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:24,560
that will specifically lay out how we

2087
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:26,719
intend to borrow that $20 million for

2088
01:14:26,719 --> 01:14:28,880
approval by the full board in the next 2

2089
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:32,149
three months.

2090
01:14:32,159 --> 01:14:36,630
» Questions, comments?

2091
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:40,080
» Yep. None. Uh,

2092
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,080
entertained. Uh,

2093
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:47,030
>> I move to approve resolution 2025.

2094
01:14:47,030 --> 01:14:47,040
» I move to approve resolution 2025.

2095
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:50,950
>> Yes. Second by director Wilkins,

2096
01:14:50,950 --> 01:14:50,960
» Yes. Second by director Wilkins,

2097
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:53,440
could this be a roll call?

2098
01:14:53,440 --> 01:14:55,430
>> Normally it's just ordinances, but we

2099
01:14:55,430 --> 01:14:55,440
» Normally it's just ordinances, but we

2100
01:14:55,440 --> 01:14:57,600
can go in and do that.

2101
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,310
>> Let's do a roll call, please.

2102
01:15:00,310 --> 01:15:00,320
» Let's do a roll call, please.

2103
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:01,590
>> Director Clement

2104
01:15:01,590 --> 01:15:01,600
» Director Clement

2105
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:02,870
>> in favor.

2106
01:15:02,870 --> 01:15:02,880
» in favor.

2107
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:03,750
>> Director Cox,

2108
01:15:03,750 --> 01:15:03,760
» Director Cox,

2109
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:04,790
>> yes.

2110
01:15:04,790 --> 01:15:04,800
» yes.

2111
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:06,149
>> Director,

2112
01:15:06,149 --> 01:15:06,159
» Director,

2113
01:15:06,159 --> 01:15:06,550
>> yes.

2114
01:15:06,550 --> 01:15:06,560
» yes.

2115
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:10,149
>> Director, yes.

2116
01:15:10,149 --> 01:15:10,159
» Director, yes.

2117
01:15:10,159 --> 01:15:10,870
>> Yes.

2118
01:15:10,870 --> 01:15:10,880
» Yes.

2119
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:14,470
>> Thank you everyone.

2120
01:15:14,480 --> 01:15:22,950
Morning

2121
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,600
again board members. Um here in front of

2122
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,679
you today to uh represent the Rotary

2123
01:15:27,679 --> 01:15:30,159
Club. They're looking to add additional

2124
01:15:30,159 --> 01:15:32,960
benches onto our property down along

2125
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,199
town of Truck East Legacy Trail. Um

2126
01:15:35,199 --> 01:15:37,440
they're proposing in installing another

2127
01:15:37,440 --> 01:15:40,159
four benches um in addition to the

2128
01:15:40,159 --> 01:15:41,600
existing four they have on our property

2129
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:43,520
to make a total of eight. There was a

2130
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:46,159
map included um that I made for you

2131
01:15:46,159 --> 01:15:48,960
guys. Hopefully, it's somewhat visible.

2132
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:50,960
I'll just point in here. It's easier for

2133
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:53,440
me at this point. So, two of them are on

2134
01:15:53,440 --> 01:15:55,679
TD property of the 10 shown on this map.

2135
01:15:55,679 --> 01:15:57,679
So, they're not relevant to us. And then

2136
01:15:57,679 --> 01:16:00,560
of the colors shown on here, the pink

2137
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:02,159
are the existing benches. They they've

2138
01:16:02,159 --> 01:16:03,679
already put in and the orange dots are

2139
01:16:03,679 --> 01:16:05,760
the proposed locations of it. I didn't

2140
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,840
confirm all four benches being proposed

2141
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:09,040
are on our property. I'm going to

2142
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:10,480
straddle the line with the Cal right

2143
01:16:10,480 --> 01:16:13,600
away, but it's just inside that line

2144
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,880
with that and turn it over to you.

2145
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:24,310
>> I move to approve

2146
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:26,159
» third

2147
01:16:26,159 --> 01:16:27,679
motion,

2148
01:16:27,679 --> 01:16:32,560
second by director. All in favor? I

2149
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:34,709
>> thank you. While we got this discussion

2150
01:16:34,709 --> 01:16:34,719
» thank you. While we got this discussion

2151
01:16:34,719 --> 01:16:38,000
going on,

2152
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:39,760
this is going to seem a little trivial,

2153
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,960
but I think it does have some merit.

2154
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:47,199
Um, I have uh some neighbors in

2155
01:16:47,199 --> 01:16:50,800
Valley that use the Wilkins Legacy Trail

2156
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:54,400
regularly regularly.

2157
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:57,120
They've asked me and I don't know who we

2158
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,199
should talk to whether it be the the

2159
01:16:59,199 --> 01:17:02,640
Rotary Club or the town of Ky

2160
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:04,560
that is

2161
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:08,400
there's no place for a female to relieve

2162
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,920
themselves along the trail.

2163
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,560
Would it be possible

2164
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:19,600
to sit and have some kind of a uh port

2165
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:23,199
somewhere along that trail man?

2166
01:17:23,199 --> 01:17:26,320
probably nothing but

2167
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:28,880
that's why I'm looking at you.

2168
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:32,390
>> It's your trail and you should help us

2169
01:17:32,390 --> 01:17:32,400
» It's your trail and you should help us

2170
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:37,199
out to maybe facilitate facilitate

2171
01:17:37,199 --> 01:17:39,360
getting a portaotti somewhere along that

2172
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:42,480
trail midway beginning end or whatever.

2173
01:17:42,480 --> 01:17:45,760
Uh because uh I I'm being nagged I'm

2174
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:48,880
being nagged about this trail and it

2175
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,679
doesn't have anything to do with TTSA,

2176
01:17:51,679 --> 01:17:53,920
but it does go across our property.

2177
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:57,350
>> Sure. Immediately you can uh let them

2178
01:17:57,350 --> 01:17:57,360
» Sure. Immediately you can uh let them

2179
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,840
know that there's restrooms up at the

2180
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:02,239
Riverview Sports Park

2181
01:18:02,239 --> 01:18:05,840
which are which the trail ties into.

2182
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:06,630
>> That's true.

2183
01:18:06,630 --> 01:18:06,640
» That's true.

2184
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:08,950
>> Yeah. So

2185
01:18:08,950 --> 01:18:08,960
» Yeah. So

2186
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:09,990
>> hopefully

2187
01:18:09,990 --> 01:18:10,000
» hopefully

2188
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:13,030
>> I I'll direct I'll direct the comment to

2189
01:18:13,030 --> 01:18:13,040
» I I'll direct I'll direct the comment to

2190
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,199
you Dan the next time it happens.

2191
01:18:15,199 --> 01:18:15,669
>> That's fine.

2192
01:18:15,669 --> 01:18:15,679
» That's fine.

2193
01:18:15,679 --> 01:18:17,430
>> You better hope you better hope that

2194
01:18:17,430 --> 01:18:17,440
» You better hope you better hope that

2195
01:18:17,440 --> 01:18:21,199
you're uh retired to me and tell him to

2196
01:18:21,199 --> 01:18:22,560
call me in January.

2197
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:26,149
>> Okay.

2198
01:18:26,159 --> 01:18:27,679
» Perfect. Thank you, Scott.

2199
01:18:27,679 --> 01:18:29,510
>> Okay. Thanks. I had to get I had to get

2200
01:18:29,510 --> 01:18:29,520
» Okay. Thanks. I had to get I had to get

2201
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:31,360
that in there.

2202
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,030
>> Well done.

2203
01:18:33,030 --> 01:18:33,040
» Well done.

2204
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:36,080
Thank you.

2205
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,550
>> Okay. Uh so next item on the agenda is a

2206
01:18:38,550 --> 01:18:38,560
» Okay. Uh so next item on the agenda is a

2207
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:41,040
brief discussion of the remainder of the

2208
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:42,800
calendar year into the beginning of the

2209
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:44,560
next forum meetings. We got a lot of

2210
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:47,840
holidays coming up. Um there's some you

2211
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:50,239
know decisions some years skip meetings

2212
01:18:50,239 --> 01:18:53,199
to you know accommodate uh holiday

2213
01:18:53,199 --> 01:18:55,280
schedules. I would just tell you the one

2214
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:57,520
thing um I have been communicated it's

2215
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:58,880
been communicated to me part in the past

2216
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:00,560
is that we must have the December board

2217
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:03,120
meeting whether it happens on the 17th

2218
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:04,480
or whether it becomes a special board

2219
01:19:04,480 --> 01:19:05,760
meeting is irrelevant but we need to

2220
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:07,440
have a board meeting in December given

2221
01:19:07,440 --> 01:19:09,679
timing for finances

2222
01:19:09,679 --> 01:19:11,920
uh other than that we have this is the

2223
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,880
schedule as it stands and will happen

2224
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:18,390
unless

2225
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:21,440
you can't see there we

2226
01:19:21,440 --> 01:19:23,440
Thank you.

2227
01:19:23,440 --> 01:19:25,110
>> So if there is an opportunity for

2228
01:19:25,110 --> 01:19:25,120
» So if there is an opportunity for

2229
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:27,120
discussion or if ever if anyone knows

2230
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:28,719
immediately off the top of their head

2231
01:19:28,719 --> 01:19:30,640
they will not be available, we can have

2232
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,280
that discussion and make modifications.

2233
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:35,669
>> Yeah, I I'll I'll just throw out and I'm

2234
01:19:35,669 --> 01:19:35,679
» Yeah, I I'll I'll just throw out and I'm

2235
01:19:35,679 --> 01:19:37,520
not asking

2236
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:39,280
for modifications

2237
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:41,360
unless it's helpful to other board

2238
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:44,000
members as well. But I'm

2239
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:45,679
not going to be available for the

2240
01:19:45,679 --> 01:19:48,159
October board meeting

2241
01:19:48,159 --> 01:19:51,360
and then the November board meeting I

2242
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,400
will be uh out of town but I can

2243
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:57,920
participate remotely. Okay, that's

2244
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:01,510
helpful.

2245
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:03,760
And I will not be available for either

2246
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:11,189
of the January.

2247
01:20:11,199 --> 01:20:14,080
B any

2248
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:16,719
No, we're looking good. I don't plan

2249
01:20:16,719 --> 01:20:19,679
that far in advance

2250
01:20:19,679 --> 01:20:22,640
like some of you.

2251
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:23,270
>> Yep.

2252
01:20:23,270 --> 01:20:23,280
» Yep.

2253
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:26,070
>> I'll get with Rochelle. But uh it

2254
01:20:26,070 --> 01:20:26,080
» I'll get with Rochelle. But uh it

2255
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:28,640
appears that uh I'll miss the uh

2256
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:31,760
November meeting, but I will be remote.

2257
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:35,280
I'll be here for uh December.

2258
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:39,040
Um planning ahead past December. I'll

2259
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:42,239
let you know, Michelle.

2260
01:20:42,239 --> 01:20:44,880
Yeah, actually the February

2261
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:47,679
the February 1848

2262
01:20:47,679 --> 01:20:50,400
not available for that one as well.

2263
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,470
>> Yeah. And again, if it if it's a matter

2264
01:20:52,470 --> 01:20:52,480
» Yeah. And again, if it if it's a matter

2265
01:20:52,480 --> 01:20:55,040
of someone won't be here and that's

2266
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,120
okay. That's kind of, you know, at the

2267
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:58,640
board's discretion, obviously it's a

2268
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:02,080
quorum. But if we're rearranging in case

2269
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:03,520
this would be the opportunity time, but

2270
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:04,880
if it's just you're going to be remote

2271
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:06,000
or you're not going to be available,

2272
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,560
then I think we can manage that.

2273
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,270
>> As long as we can

2274
01:21:11,270 --> 01:21:11,280
» As long as we can

2275
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:13,679
district boundary.

2276
01:21:13,679 --> 01:21:14,159
Uh

2277
01:21:14,159 --> 01:21:16,229
>> I have no at this time. And I don't have

2278
01:21:16,229 --> 01:21:16,239
» I have no at this time. And I don't have

2279
01:21:16,239 --> 01:21:45,270
any conf

2280
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:46,880
Morning

2281
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:50,000
board of directors. President

2282
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,719
um Michael P operations department

2283
01:21:52,719 --> 01:21:55,920
manager. Um so for the operations

2284
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,719
department report for the month uh all

2285
01:21:58,719 --> 01:22:00,639
plant waste discharge requirements were

2286
01:22:00,639 --> 01:22:05,199
met performed well. Um after competitive

2287
01:22:05,199 --> 01:22:08,000
in-house selection process, two

2288
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:09,679
operators were promoted to senior

2289
01:22:09,679 --> 01:22:14,639
operator positions and um we had zero

2290
01:22:14,639 --> 01:22:23,270
completed work orders for pending.

2291
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:27,360
Uh this was the flows and the limits for

2292
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:30,159
the month for affluent

2293
01:22:30,159 --> 01:22:34,480
and the cost chemical to consider.

2294
01:22:34,480 --> 01:22:41,430
Any questions for

2295
01:22:41,440 --> 01:22:50,550
Thank you.

2296
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:55,990
All right. Good morning.

2297
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:58,960
All right. So for the month of August,

2298
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:00,960
um we did provide support for digestion

2299
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:02,719
improvements project, nutrition removal

2300
01:23:02,719 --> 01:23:04,800
project which we've discussed at length

2301
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:07,520
today. So um the redundant serving

2302
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:09,199
project which was approved by the board

2303
01:23:09,199 --> 01:23:12,320
previously and few months back um SCADA

2304
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:14,320
upgrade project which is a new project

2305
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:16,960
you'll be seeing uh shortly. Uh Scott

2306
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,360
alluded to that earlier and the TRRI

2307
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:21,440
lighting project.

2308
01:23:21,440 --> 01:23:24,239
Um for the month, notable tasks for the

2309
01:23:24,239 --> 01:23:26,400
month, replaced a bar screen water

2310
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:29,040
solenoid. Um made some modifications to

2311
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:32,400
that to a new style. Um ongoing

2312
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:33,920
replacement of some chem sludge valves.

2313
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:35,040
You'll see some pictures of that later

2314
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:36,560
on. What a chemother valve looks like.

2315
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:37,840
They're they're pretty in-depth. You get

2316
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:39,360
those things in there. We bought a lot

2317
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:41,840
of them. It's a big project. board new

2318
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:43,199
base for the digesttor number 30

2319
01:23:43,199 --> 01:23:45,199
recirculation pump and installed the

2320
01:23:45,199 --> 01:23:48,239
pump. Um, replaced dewatering centuge

2321
01:23:48,239 --> 01:23:50,560
motor mount assemblies. Um, also a

2322
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:52,400
bigger job than it sounds like on paper.

2323
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:55,520
So, pictures of that. Um, ongoing

2324
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:57,760
defensible space abatement. Um, that is

2325
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:00,400
an ongoing project and we're developing

2326
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:02,239
long-term plans and goals in

2327
01:24:02,239 --> 01:24:05,679
collaboration with Turkey Fire onsite

2328
01:24:05,679 --> 01:24:07,520
training uh for barcreen and watch

2329
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:09,679
press. Uh, we had a come out with some

2330
01:24:09,679 --> 01:24:11,840
training for us. was good at help us get

2331
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:13,120
through some of the issues we have with

2332
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:16,320
wash presses. Um we relocated and

2333
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:18,639
configured the smart cover for the TRRI

2334
01:24:18,639 --> 01:24:21,840
lighting project and um we installed new

2335
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:23,600
conductors to the flock mixers and

2336
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:24,880
replaced the motors. You're going to see

2337
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:28,159
some uh pictures along those lines.

2338
01:24:28,159 --> 01:24:29,840
They're old, they're aging. That's part

2339
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:31,360
of our aging infrastructure

2340
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:32,880
infrastructure that we need to keep up

2341
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:35,440
and running because that's stuff that's

2342
01:24:35,440 --> 01:24:36,800
going to go away in the future. So,

2343
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:38,239
we're trying to do everything we can to

2344
01:24:38,239 --> 01:24:40,320
keep them going, save money where we

2345
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:43,040
can. Um, we replaced the exhaust fan and

2346
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:45,920
the pipe gallery and some scrapers on

2347
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:49,840
secondary number four.

2348
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:51,199
Oh, sorry, I was on the wrong side

2349
01:24:51,199 --> 01:24:52,480
there. Apologize. I wasn't following

2350
01:24:52,480 --> 01:24:58,870
along there.

2351
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:00,560
All right. Uh, we still have three

2352
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:03,520
unfilled positions. Um the SKA

2353
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:06,560
specialist one two is um out right now.

2354
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:08,719
We have an open recruit for that. Um the

2355
01:25:08,719 --> 01:25:10,320
other two are still being revised and

2356
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:13,120
assessed. Work orders for the month uh

2357
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:14,960
stayed pretty flat month over month with

2358
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:18,239
a slight uptick in a couple of areas. Um

2359
01:25:18,239 --> 01:25:20,639
but we're still maintaining within

2360
01:25:20,639 --> 01:25:25,910
certain margin of error there.

2361
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,400
All right. So as you can see that's what

2362
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:30,960
a flock mixer looks like. There's a big

2363
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:32,960
blade underneath that that goes into the

2364
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:35,360
basin. Um, you can see that's pretty

2365
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:38,159
old. Um, we spend a fair amount of time

2366
01:25:38,159 --> 01:25:39,600
on those, but we do have to keep them up

2367
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:40,639
and running because they are critical

2368
01:25:40,639 --> 01:25:43,199
for our operations. And, uh, that's just

2369
01:25:43,199 --> 01:25:44,719
some pictures of some of our staff

2370
01:25:44,719 --> 01:25:47,199
performing work on the conductors, uh,

2371
01:25:47,199 --> 01:25:48,719
pulling the underground wires through

2372
01:25:48,719 --> 01:25:50,960
and

2373
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:52,800
getting those up and running. There's a

2374
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:55,360
digesttor 30 recirculation pump and the

2375
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:57,199
base.

2376
01:25:57,199 --> 01:25:58,719
And to the right there, um, I was

2377
01:25:58,719 --> 01:25:59,760
talking about the motor mount

2378
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:01,840
assemblies. That's a that's a large

2379
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:04,080
motor that sits into that cavity for the

2380
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:07,199
blue motor bases there. So, it was a big

2381
01:26:07,199 --> 01:26:08,639
job for both of our dewatering

2382
01:26:08,639 --> 01:26:10,639
centrifuges. So, we found cracks in

2383
01:26:10,639 --> 01:26:13,600
those. They had to be replaced.

2384
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:15,760
And that's a picture of some of our

2385
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:17,600
sledge valves. Couple of our staff

2386
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:20,000
working on that. We still have about

2387
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,000
that many more to do still on the other

2388
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:24,639
side. So there's this is anoid project

2389
01:26:24,639 --> 01:26:26,159
when we can coordinate with operations

2390
01:26:26,159 --> 01:26:29,430
for downtown

2391
01:26:29,440 --> 01:26:30,960
and that's just one of the solenoid

2392
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:33,120
valves I talked to talked about earlier

2393
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:35,679
to the right there is the secondary four

2394
01:26:35,679 --> 01:26:37,520
uh scrapers. You see those scraper bars

2395
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:39,440
now at the bottom. This requires us to

2396
01:26:39,440 --> 01:26:42,719
do an entry into that space um you know

2397
01:26:42,719 --> 01:26:44,159
with ladders and things like that. We

2398
01:26:44,159 --> 01:26:46,560
have to have monitors and and whatnot.

2399
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:48,560
So, uh, we got that job done pretty

2400
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:53,040
quickly and, um, yeah, released at tops.

2401
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:54,880
Any questions I can answer?

2402
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:57,110
>> Uh, the three unfilled positions.

2403
01:26:57,110 --> 01:26:57,120
» Uh, the three unfilled positions.

2404
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:57,590
>> Yes.

2405
01:26:57,590 --> 01:26:57,600
» Yes.

2406
01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:01,030
>> Do we anticipate any of them being

2407
01:27:01,030 --> 01:27:01,040
» Do we anticipate any of them being

2408
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:02,639
filled by the end of the year?

2409
01:27:02,639 --> 01:27:03,990
>> Well, we're hoping that the scape

2410
01:27:03,990 --> 01:27:04,000
» Well, we're hoping that the scape

2411
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:06,719
specialist is going to be uh filled as

2412
01:27:06,719 --> 01:27:09,199
soon as possible. The ENI technician

2413
01:27:09,199 --> 01:27:10,880
position, uh, that's the one that's

2414
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:12,800
under assessment right now. Um, we

2415
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:13,920
haven't done the budget currently

2416
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:16,159
because if we needed, there was a

2417
01:27:16,159 --> 01:27:18,400
position there. We have not filled it

2418
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:19,840
yet because we're trying to see the

2419
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:21,760
impact to the workload because it may

2420
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:24,080
present an opportunity to not fill it

2421
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:25,600
and eliminate the position.

2422
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:25,910
>> Okay.

2423
01:27:25,910 --> 01:27:25,920
» Okay.

2424
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:27,350
>> So, we're trying to be as efficient as

2425
01:27:27,350 --> 01:27:27,360
» So, we're trying to be as efficient as

2426
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:28,960
we can, but we need the data to say

2427
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:30,400
whether we do or don't make the

2428
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:31,679
position.

2429
01:27:31,679 --> 01:27:33,669
>> Thank you.

2430
01:27:33,669 --> 01:27:33,679
» Thank you.

2431
01:27:33,679 --> 01:27:37,440
regarding CMS GIS technician. That's a

2432
01:27:37,440 --> 01:27:39,440
position that we're looking at closely

2433
01:27:39,440 --> 01:27:42,000
to hopefully redefine it um to get

2434
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:43,679
better value at it

2435
01:27:43,679 --> 01:27:46,310
>> um for that position and that would

2436
01:27:46,310 --> 01:27:46,320
» um for that position and that would

2437
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:48,320
require a rewrite of the job description

2438
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,480
as well. So, we're looking closely at it

2439
01:27:50,480 --> 01:27:53,120
and we'll have more at a later date.

2440
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:58,229
>> Okay. Thank you, Paul.

2441
01:27:58,239 --> 01:28:08,149
Morning

2442
01:28:08,159 --> 01:28:11,120
again director Scott technical services

2443
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:13,440
manager uh provide you a technical

2444
01:28:13,440 --> 01:28:15,679
services department report. So, starting

2445
01:28:15,679 --> 01:28:17,440
off digestion improvements. Currently,

2446
01:28:17,440 --> 01:28:19,199
we're uh working with Brown and call

2447
01:28:19,199 --> 01:28:21,040
progressing towards that 60% design

2448
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:23,199
deliverable, open app, some renderings

2449
01:28:23,199 --> 01:28:25,040
to show you guys on on what we're

2450
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:26,719
actually planning on building out there

2451
01:28:26,719 --> 01:28:29,760
after that is received. Um, and then, as

2452
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:30,960
I mentioned previously, we're going to

2453
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,679
be working to get an RFP issued here for

2454
01:28:33,679 --> 01:28:35,600
construction management services. Um,

2455
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:38,159
we've got currently, I believe, five

2456
01:28:38,159 --> 01:28:39,679
consultants that all intend to put a

2457
01:28:39,679 --> 01:28:42,719
proposal together for it. Um and so with

2458
01:28:42,719 --> 01:28:44,000
that in mind, we'll have a selection

2459
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:45,280
committee and and hopefully in the next

2460
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:46,400
month or two we can come back to you

2461
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:48,400
with that recommendation to report that

2462
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,719
CM services agreement to one of those

2463
01:28:50,719 --> 01:28:52,800
firms. Um and then we're working on

2464
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:54,880
critical path equipment uh items

2465
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:56,639
specifically needed to be pre-

2466
01:28:56,639 --> 01:28:58,560
purchased, pre-negotiated, pre-selected

2467
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:00,719
with legal and with those vendors. This

2468
01:29:00,719 --> 01:29:02,880
is specifically the linear generator

2469
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:04,480
that we've talked about that the board

2470
01:29:04,480 --> 01:29:05,760
would need to authorize the purchase

2471
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:07,120
agreement with that proprietary

2472
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:10,480
technology to reduce our our risk of um

2473
01:29:10,480 --> 01:29:12,320
getting price gouge during construction

2474
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:14,639
and then also a waste gas burner that

2475
01:29:14,639 --> 01:29:18,629
we're looking to solic

2476
01:29:18,639 --> 01:29:19,760
sourcing of those two pieces of

2477
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,400
equipment. Um I did include a schedule

2478
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:24,159
just as a visual representation for

2479
01:29:24,159 --> 01:29:26,719
those that prefer these. So this is just

2480
01:29:26,719 --> 01:29:29,040
a highle overview of where that project

2481
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:30,719
is at right now. So you can see we

2482
01:29:30,719 --> 01:29:33,199
kicked it off in May of 2024. We started

2483
01:29:33,199 --> 01:29:35,199
with the basis of design verification

2484
01:29:35,199 --> 01:29:37,600
and then entered into final design this

2485
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:39,440
past spring. So we're progressing on

2486
01:29:39,440 --> 01:29:41,840
track as anticipated to date and

2487
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:43,920
approaching that 60% design deliverable

2488
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:45,679
which is anticipated towards the end of

2489
01:29:45,679 --> 01:29:47,920
October followed by an agency review

2490
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:50,159
period. Um total amount invoiced to date

2491
01:29:50,159 --> 01:29:52,560
is approaching a million dollars as of

2492
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:55,280
their August invoice. So it's also in

2493
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:57,199
line with the task item amounts

2494
01:29:57,199 --> 01:29:59,920
associated with each of those specific

2495
01:29:59,920 --> 01:30:02,639
separate subtasks for those designs. So

2496
01:30:02,639 --> 01:30:04,080
nothing to report yet, but I do

2497
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:06,800
anticipate a potential fee and scope

2498
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:08,560
some additional scope items that were

2499
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:10,000
not anticipated with that project.

2500
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:11,679
Specifically, we're designing a a new

2501
01:30:11,679 --> 01:30:13,280
access road behind the board here along

2502
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:14,719
the fence that's going to come up to

2503
01:30:14,719 --> 01:30:18,000
that new 60%. I will present those

2504
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:19,679
additional items that triggered that

2505
01:30:19,679 --> 01:30:22,320
scope and feed.

2506
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:25,040
Um, moving over to Truckucky River

2507
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:26,719
Interceptor Rehabilitation Project. This

2508
01:30:26,719 --> 01:30:29,920
is manual 33 to 35 Alpine Meadows to

2509
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:32,239
Olympic Valley. So, um, this is the

2510
01:30:32,239 --> 01:30:33,600
first official week of the project

2511
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:36,080
kicking off. I included two slides ahead

2512
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:38,000
of where we're at with that schedule.

2513
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:39,440
It's probably pretty difficult to read.

2514
01:30:39,440 --> 01:30:40,960
I tried to make it as big as I could

2515
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:43,040
while conveying the information. So, as

2516
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:45,120
you can see, we're on the week of 9:14.

2517
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:47,120
the contractor submitted a much more

2518
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:48,960
detailed version of this and he for

2519
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:51,120
whatever reason decided to build the

2520
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:52,480
schedule around Sunday and started

2521
01:30:52,480 --> 01:30:54,800
working for them. Um so with this in

2522
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:56,880
mind this this gra our schedule for

2523
01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:58,960
those interested represents when we

2524
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:00,560
anticipate the Truckucky River trail

2525
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:02,639
closures um to complete that work for

2526
01:31:02,639 --> 01:31:05,840
the lining project. So, um, what I can a

2527
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:06,880
high level will tell you with the

2528
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:09,360
schedule is contractor made a very, uh,

2529
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:11,760
solid effort to minimize the full

2530
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:13,199
closures or hard closures of the

2531
01:31:13,199 --> 01:31:15,040
Truckucky River Trail with Taho City PD.

2532
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:17,120
We've been coordinating with them. Um,

2533
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:19,360
so the the big challenge is while

2534
01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:20,880
construction work activities are

2535
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:22,480
occurring during typical work days,

2536
01:31:22,480 --> 01:31:23,920
Monday through Saturday, 7:00 a.m. to

2537
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:26,159
5:00 p.m. shown in orange or yellow.

2538
01:31:26,159 --> 01:31:27,679
There's going to need to be intermittent

2539
01:31:27,679 --> 01:31:30,080
closures and no trail access due to no

2540
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:31,199
being heavy equipment to produce

2541
01:31:31,199 --> 01:31:33,360
liability for ourselves as well as for

2542
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:36,639
TO city PUB. Um and with that in mind

2543
01:31:36,639 --> 01:31:38,239
this week really the trail is still open

2544
01:31:38,239 --> 01:31:41,040
up until Friday we're anticipating

2545
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:42,719
they're currently clearing out the sites

2546
01:31:42,719 --> 01:31:44,000
for where they need to stage equipment

2547
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:46,000
around manholes and then they're also

2548
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:48,239
bringing in um highdensity polyethylene

2549
01:31:48,239 --> 01:31:50,320
pipe HDP pipe that's going to be used

2550
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:52,719
for the bypass. So they're offloading it

2551
01:31:52,719 --> 01:31:54,800
adjacent to 89 near Olympic Valley and

2552
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:55,840
you might see that depending if you're

2553
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:57,440
driving in that corridor and then

2554
01:31:57,440 --> 01:31:59,199
they're moving it through a temporary

2555
01:31:59,199 --> 01:32:01,440
construction to be secured over a bridge

2556
01:32:01,440 --> 01:32:03,520
and then fusing it and dragging it onto

2557
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:06,480
the trail starting more or less uh this

2558
01:32:06,480 --> 01:32:09,520
weekend. So um that's where that project

2559
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:13,440
is at as far as the scheduling goes. Um

2560
01:32:13,440 --> 01:32:14,639
and I guess I can open it up

2561
01:32:14,639 --> 01:32:16,159
intermittently for questions if you guys

2562
01:32:16,159 --> 01:32:17,520
want to jump in or we can

2563
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:20,390
>> What was the total cost of that lining?

2564
01:32:20,390 --> 01:32:20,400
» What was the total cost of that lining?

2565
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:22,719
It's approximately $1.2 million. The

2566
01:32:22,719 --> 01:32:24,239
original estimated amount was like about

2567
01:32:24,239 --> 01:32:26,000
2 and a.5 million I think we budgeted

2568
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:26,320
for.

2569
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:31,189
>> So we were 50% of the uh

2570
01:32:31,189 --> 01:32:31,199
» So we were 50% of the uh

2571
01:32:31,199 --> 01:32:32,639
50% of the

2572
01:32:32,639 --> 01:32:34,629
>> Yeah, it was a happy surprise right for

2573
01:32:34,629 --> 01:32:34,639
» Yeah, it was a happy surprise right for

2574
01:32:34,639 --> 01:32:36,880
the the bids we received relative to

2575
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:38,239
what we anticipated to cost with the

2576
01:32:38,239 --> 01:32:40,480
logistics of the project.

2577
01:32:40,480 --> 01:32:42,310
>> 1.2.

2578
01:32:42,310 --> 01:32:42,320
» 1.2.

2579
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:43,910
>> Yes sir.

2580
01:32:43,910 --> 01:32:43,920
» Yes sir.

2581
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:46,400
Um, as you guys are aware, you just

2582
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:47,679
awarded the nutrient removal

2583
01:32:47,679 --> 01:32:49,440
improvements project to Corollo. Um,

2584
01:32:49,440 --> 01:32:50,719
scope and fee negotiations were

2585
01:32:50,719 --> 01:32:52,320
completed prior to coming to the board.

2586
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:54,880
So, on the back end of that, um, we'll

2587
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:56,480
now get into contract with them, have

2588
01:32:56,480 --> 01:32:57,600
them sign services agreement to be

2589
01:32:57,600 --> 01:32:59,679
signed general manager to move into

2590
01:32:59,679 --> 01:33:01,600
scheduling to kick off the project in

2591
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:06,310
early October

2592
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:09,600
lines. He's about um

2593
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:11,920
90% done with the inspection for that.

2594
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:13,520
They're anticipating wrapping up this

2595
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:17,760
week. We'll follow all the CCTV call

2596
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:20,639
similar post television inspections and

2597
01:33:20,639 --> 01:33:22,080
then we're all going to be awaiting

2598
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:24,239
deliverables. So the sequencing do the

2599
01:33:24,239 --> 01:33:25,840
inspection work. They compile all those

2600
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:27,280
videos and then they put them into a

2601
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:30,000
format that they can hand over to us. So

2602
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:32,639
50% of that payment will be forthcoming

2603
01:33:32,639 --> 01:33:34,239
to be authorized by staff upon

2604
01:33:34,239 --> 01:33:35,520
completion of the field work and the

2605
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:37,440
other 50% upon receipt of a complete

2606
01:33:37,440 --> 01:33:39,040
collaborative from the contractor with

2607
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:41,440
prohibi uh lab activities quarterly

2608
01:33:41,440 --> 01:33:42,639
pre-treatment sampling and annual

2609
01:33:42,639 --> 01:33:44,159
sampling is occurring proficiency

2610
01:33:44,159 --> 01:33:46,000
testing began this month and will

2611
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:47,600
continue throughout the rest of the year

2612
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:49,120
and then continuing California

2613
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:50,880
Department of Public Health co sampling

2614
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:52,800
optional task that they they basically

2615
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:54,480
provide us the materials and it's no

2616
01:33:54,480 --> 01:33:57,040
real additional cost to us going and

2617
01:33:57,040 --> 01:33:58,639
then corrective actions for the lab this

2618
01:33:58,639 --> 01:34:01,520
month two with three pending. On the IT

2619
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:04,080
side of things, there were 29 completed

2620
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:06,000
corrective work requests with five

2621
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:09,040
outstanding. Um there's preventive

2622
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:11,280
maintenance for completed and few

2623
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:13,600
outstanding. And then there's ongoing

2624
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:15,920
work um with the firewall. The permit

2625
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:18,960
portal is ongoing with us as well for

2626
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:21,679
that. We uh we have some installed in

2627
01:34:21,679 --> 01:34:23,600
test and remote software support for

2628
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:26,000
staff. So that way um IT department can

2629
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:28,480
remote in two laptops and desktops to

2630
01:34:28,480 --> 01:34:30,719
support that if they're not available to

2631
01:34:30,719 --> 01:34:33,360
do it in person. Uh website migration

2632
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:35,840
project and new laptop commissioning and

2633
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:38,880
rollouts have about I think 11 purchased

2634
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:41,440
this year for staff for outgoing old

2635
01:34:41,440 --> 01:34:44,000
outdated laptops. coordination meetings

2636
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:46,960
with the operations technology team, uh,

2637
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:48,080
password vault integration for

2638
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:49,679
operations technology team, and then we

2639
01:34:49,679 --> 01:34:51,440
piloted the new IT ticketing system,

2640
01:34:51,440 --> 01:34:53,280
which has gotten pretty pretty good

2641
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:56,320
reviews from staff to simplify how we we

2642
01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:58,960
go about processing work requests for IT

2643
01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:00,639
related issues for admin and counter

2644
01:35:00,639 --> 01:35:02,080
staff relative to using our asset

2645
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:04,800
management software.

2646
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:07,440
That's it from technical services. Any

2647
01:35:07,440 --> 01:35:11,990
specific questions?

2648
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:21,669
We're good. Thank you.

2649
01:35:21,679 --> 01:35:23,440
» Good morning again. It's still morning.

2650
01:35:23,440 --> 01:35:24,880
We're making great progress on this

2651
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:26,560
meeting.

2652
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:27,840
So, I'm here to talk about the

2653
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:30,480
administrative report for August. Um for

2654
01:35:30,480 --> 01:35:32,800
risk and safety, um we actually attended

2655
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:34,960
a mutual aid training down at TSD. There

2656
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:36,800
was some response training as a piece of

2657
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:39,360
it. It was really awesome for me to make

2658
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:41,280
contacts with for our team to see what

2659
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:43,360
happens when um one of our member

2660
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:45,679
agencies has to respond to something. I

2661
01:35:45,679 --> 01:35:46,880
learned that I can make shapes and

2662
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:48,719
measure. That was also I learned my role

2663
01:35:48,719 --> 01:35:50,320
and responsibility during this bill is

2664
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:51,920
not to be out on the ground looking at

2665
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:53,760
things but to be back at home providing

2666
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:56,159
numbers, contact information. That was a

2667
01:35:56,159 --> 01:35:58,239
great regional training. We also still

2668
01:35:58,239 --> 01:35:59,520
have our recruitment for the safety and

2669
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:02,159
compliance administrator going on. On

2670
01:36:02,159 --> 01:36:03,679
the finance side of the house, we held

2671
01:36:03,679 --> 01:36:05,280
our August finance committee meeting on

2672
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:07,520
August 12th, and we took care of making

2673
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:09,600
our AP payments, our payroll payments,

2674
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:11,840
all of those items. From building and

2675
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:13,520
customer service, again, no pictures.

2676
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:14,800
We're still working on our outdoor

2677
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:16,320
pictures, but she did go out and do two

2678
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:18,239
commercial account inspections along

2679
01:36:18,239 --> 01:36:20,639
with the general duties. Uh same for

2680
01:36:20,639 --> 01:36:22,239
purchasing administration, running that

2681
01:36:22,239 --> 01:36:23,600
front desk and making sure that we're

2682
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:25,760
purchasing everything that we need. Um

2683
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:27,679
on the general administration side, I

2684
01:36:27,679 --> 01:36:29,679
went to the CSBA conference in Monterey.

2685
01:36:29,679 --> 01:36:31,280
I really did want to sneak a picture of

2686
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:33,920
my garlic bread bowl clam chowder in

2687
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:35,920
there. I just chose to talk about it

2688
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:38,480
instead. It was amazing. I also attended

2689
01:36:38,480 --> 01:36:40,239
a few really great sessions. I went to

2690
01:36:40,239 --> 01:36:41,920
anything that was talking about issuing

2691
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:44,880
debt or financing large projects. Um

2692
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:46,880
there was someone there from South Tahoe

2693
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:48,400
and we just financed a project. So I got

2694
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:50,480
to have contact with her and learn about

2695
01:36:50,480 --> 01:36:52,560
their journey. I also went to a session

2696
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:54,159
on Monday to learn how to present

2697
01:36:54,159 --> 01:36:56,560
policies to the board uh so that the

2698
01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:58,239
board will approve the policies. though

2699
01:36:58,239 --> 01:36:59,600
I hope to get a little sharp work for

2700
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:02,239
you all on that as well. Um, and as

2701
01:37:02,239 --> 01:37:03,360
always, we performed various

2702
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:04,880
administrative duties at the pleasure of

2703
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:07,920
the GM or directed by you.

2704
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:09,920
Last but not least, here is a breakdown

2705
01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:12,400
of our connection fees for August. A

2706
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:14,159
conversation came up in finance

2707
01:37:14,159 --> 01:37:16,480
committee about the actual EDUs per

2708
01:37:16,480 --> 01:37:18,719
year. So, I'll be adding some historical

2709
01:37:18,719 --> 01:37:20,560
information to this and giving us maybe

2710
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:22,239
the last three or four historical years

2711
01:37:22,239 --> 01:37:24,159
for connections. So, we can keep an eye

2712
01:37:24,159 --> 01:37:26,000
on that as we talk about projections and

2713
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:28,400
looking at art.

2714
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:28,560
I

2715
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:30,149
>> think that does it for my report. Are

2716
01:37:30,149 --> 01:37:30,159
» think that does it for my report. Are

2717
01:37:30,159 --> 01:37:32,719
there any questions?

2718
01:37:32,719 --> 01:37:33,430
>> Thank you.

2719
01:37:33,430 --> 01:37:33,440
» Thank you.

2720
01:37:33,440 --> 01:37:40,629
>> Hi, shorty.

2721
01:37:40,639 --> 01:37:43,199
Uh so, yeah, lots on the uh packet

2722
01:37:43,199 --> 01:37:45,199
obviously most of it covered by other

2723
01:37:45,199 --> 01:37:46,880
departments in some capacity. I do want

2724
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:49,280
to just give an a special shout out to

2725
01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:53,840
TSD for NCWA for hosting that event. Um

2726
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:56,000
we have, you know, a substantial

2727
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:59,199
pipeline and um it's a risk in our

2728
01:37:59,199 --> 01:38:02,560
community. So having the local agencies

2729
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:04,800
communicate and work together to

2730
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:06,159
identify what that response would look

2731
01:38:06,159 --> 01:38:08,400
like if we ever, you know, hit the fan,

2732
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:12,159
boy, that is a reassuring thing. So, um,

2733
01:38:12,159 --> 01:38:14,719
lots of, uh, future resources is going

2734
01:38:14,719 --> 01:38:16,719
to be committed to improving those

2735
01:38:16,719 --> 01:38:18,480
relationships and getting more of a

2736
01:38:18,480 --> 01:38:21,119
regionalized, uh, concept put together.

2737
01:38:21,119 --> 01:38:23,199
So, I'll just again shout out that, um,

2738
01:38:23,199 --> 01:38:24,800
we've been having, uh, various

2739
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:28,239
discussions about, uh, the land surplus

2740
01:38:28,239 --> 01:38:32,159
and, um, not a lot to report on that.

2741
01:38:32,159 --> 01:38:34,719
Uh, we had some interviews uh, as was

2742
01:38:34,719 --> 01:38:36,400
mentioned in the operations report. We

2743
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:38,080
had a couple promotions, which was

2744
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:40,560
great. Um, love to see those things. Uh

2745
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:43,600
we had the first all hands meeting that

2746
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:45,600
I was able to present. It was uh it was

2747
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:47,119
a good time. We all kind of got together

2748
01:38:47,119 --> 01:38:49,119
and established a little bit of the

2749
01:38:49,119 --> 01:38:51,199
temperature and what expectations are

2750
01:38:51,199 --> 01:38:52,960
and I think it was wellreceived. People

2751
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:55,040
had a good time. It was uh it was

2752
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:58,239
reassuring. Um the traffic fest

2753
01:38:58,239 --> 01:38:59,920
happened. Good news about that is we

2754
01:38:59,920 --> 01:39:01,760
didn't even notice it. So they've got

2755
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:03,679
that thing nailed down and it doesn't

2756
01:39:03,679 --> 01:39:06,159
really impact us. So that's good story

2757
01:39:06,159 --> 01:39:07,679
there.

2758
01:39:07,679 --> 01:39:10,320
Um, we've been having more and more

2759
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:12,560
people attending conferences wherever we

2760
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:13,679
possibly can. We're getting more

2761
01:39:13,679 --> 01:39:17,040
involved in CSDA, CSRMA, CASA, all of

2762
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:18,880
the kind of administrative things that

2763
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:20,320
maybe in the past we didn't have as

2764
01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:22,880
thorough coverage on. Uh, we also have

2765
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:24,400
several individuals including myself

2766
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:27,360
going to webte in Colorado, which is the

2767
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:29,920
big industry uh, conference for the

2768
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:31,840
year. So, that should be amazing. You've

2769
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:35,440
got a lot of uh we're lined up pretty

2770
01:39:35,440 --> 01:39:38,400
detailed with Corollo already scheduled

2771
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:41,440
to go talk to very specific um vendors,

2772
01:39:41,440 --> 01:39:44,239
look at very specific uh operations,

2773
01:39:44,239 --> 01:39:45,600
talk to other people that have gone

2774
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:48,159
through similar uh upgrades. So that

2775
01:39:48,159 --> 01:39:50,400
should be very very busy. Um again,

2776
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:52,400
we're we're utilizing CSDA training.

2777
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:54,159
We're going to have uh is going to

2778
01:39:54,159 --> 01:39:56,400
attend some board um secretary training

2779
01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:58,239
and conference. So that's those are

2780
01:39:58,239 --> 01:40:02,719
always good. Um and again uh uh

2781
01:40:02,719 --> 01:40:05,280
continuing on with uh the outreach

2782
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:06,560
that's going to be you know that's

2783
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:07,600
something that's been brought up

2784
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:09,520
specifically by a couple open board

2785
01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:12,480
members. Outreach is on our docket. We

2786
01:40:12,480 --> 01:40:14,639
are moving into it now. We've got a

2787
01:40:14,639 --> 01:40:17,119
story to go tell. Um so story is going

2788
01:40:17,119 --> 01:40:20,400
to go get told. So any opportunities

2789
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:22,880
that you can facilitate in your boards

2790
01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:25,440
or at your local agencies or even within

2791
01:40:25,440 --> 01:40:27,840
the communities of that area, we would

2792
01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:30,560
love opportunities to go and speak and

2793
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:32,239
get people kind of rallied around the

2794
01:40:32,239 --> 01:40:34,800
the cause.

2795
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:39,350
Any questions?

2796
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:44,149
Think we're good.

2797
01:40:44,159 --> 01:40:48,880
Uh final board comments or questions.

2798
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:51,280
I need to give a finance committee

2799
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:53,840
readout. I believe

2800
01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:56,400
uh so at finance committee the main

2801
01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:58,080
things that we talked about were the

2802
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:01,520
connection charge policy

2803
01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:03,040
there's some interesting state

2804
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:04,639
regulations around it but something that

2805
01:41:04,639 --> 01:41:08,000
we should look at uh definitely when we

2806
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:11,119
go to our next rate increase. Um, also

2807
01:41:11,119 --> 01:41:14,639
on the agenda for October for the board,

2808
01:41:14,639 --> 01:41:16,880
uh, you guys should be aware that we're

2809
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:19,760
going to put a policy in front of the

2810
01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:22,080
board on reserves and how we handle

2811
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:24,560
reserves. Uh, it's really housekeeping

2812
01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:26,960
in advance of going to raise any debt.

2813
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:29,360
We've got some funky ways of how we fund

2814
01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:30,800
certain things that need to be fixed

2815
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:32,880
because right now it's not it doesn't

2816
01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:34,800
make any sense. Um, so we're going to go

2817
01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:36,960
ahead and fix that. Uh, we also reviewed

2818
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:40,480
all the capital projects. um including

2819
01:41:40,480 --> 01:41:42,880
the

2820
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:45,840
me the membrane plant stuff. Um you

2821
01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:47,360
know, if we have to go down the ozone

2822
01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:48,880
path, we'll have to raise another 200

2823
01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:50,320
million, but we're not going down that

2824
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:52,960
path right now. Um but we went through

2825
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:54,320
all the capital projects to make sure

2826
01:41:54,320 --> 01:41:57,199
that we were on target with that as

2827
01:41:57,199 --> 01:41:59,119
well. And then the reimbursement

2828
01:41:59,119 --> 01:42:00,800
resolution, we talked about that. You

2829
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:02,239
guys approved it today. So that's really

2830
01:42:02,239 --> 01:42:04,320
the readout from the finance committee.

2831
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:06,480
We feel that we should give you that

2832
01:42:06,480 --> 01:42:08,239
every month when we don't present

2833
01:42:08,239 --> 01:42:10,080
full-blown quarterly financials and

2834
01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:13,040
everything else. Um, and that's the way

2835
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:15,119
we're going.

2836
01:42:15,119 --> 01:42:17,040
Any questions?

2837
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:19,350
>> Thank you, B. You're welcome.

2838
01:42:19,350 --> 01:42:19,360
» Thank you, B. You're welcome.

2839
01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:20,239
See,

2840
01:42:20,239 --> 01:42:23,030
>> I I just want I I couldn't understand

2841
01:42:23,030 --> 01:42:23,040
» I I just want I I couldn't understand

2842
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:26,080
why we don't have alternatives as a

2843
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:29,119
board. You know, most agencies like this

2844
01:42:29,119 --> 01:42:31,199
that I've worked with have alternatives.

2845
01:42:31,199 --> 01:42:36,080
Um, alternatives, not alternatives.

2846
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:41,510
>> being a new alternative to

2847
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:45,119
» um, but and I assume it has something to

2848
01:42:45,119 --> 01:42:46,719
do with the fact that we are written as

2849
01:42:46,719 --> 01:42:50,159
a special act for this district agency.

2850
01:42:50,159 --> 01:42:53,679
Excuse me. Gosh. Um, and I just didn't

2851
01:42:53,679 --> 01:42:55,920
have I didn't find the time honestly to

2852
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:58,080
to really research it. So, it's not

2853
01:42:58,080 --> 01:43:00,159
something I'm just curious. Maybe we

2854
01:43:00,159 --> 01:43:02,960
could delve into that a little bit. I

2855
01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:05,520
you know it's not a necessary thing but

2856
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:09,440
astronomy is odd. A and B I thought you

2857
01:43:09,440 --> 01:43:11,040
know it does provide an opportunity for

2858
01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:13,199
someone else to come and kind of learn

2859
01:43:13,199 --> 01:43:15,760
about it and you know perhaps become a

2860
01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:18,719
replacement for someone in time. So I

2861
01:43:18,719 --> 01:43:20,080
wouldn't mind if we could maybe just do

2862
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:22,880
a little bit of research on it. Um,

2863
01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:24,960
again, no rush, just

2864
01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:27,270
>> so so you're talking about like like I'm

2865
01:43:27,270 --> 01:43:27,280
» so so you're talking about like like I'm

2866
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:28,480
not going to be here for the October

2867
01:43:28,480 --> 01:43:32,320
board meeting like Taho City PUD

2868
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:33,679
appointing an alternative.

2869
01:43:33,679 --> 01:43:34,870
>> Correct.

2870
01:43:34,870 --> 01:43:34,880
» Correct.

2871
01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:37,189
>> Yeah. But each question

2872
01:43:37,189 --> 01:43:37,199
» Yeah. But each question

2873
01:43:37,199 --> 01:43:37,510
>> Yeah.

2874
01:43:37,510 --> 01:43:37,520
» Yeah.

2875
01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:40,229
>> So each organization would have to alter

2876
01:43:40,229 --> 01:43:40,239
» So each organization would have to alter

2877
01:43:40,239 --> 01:43:41,360
that

2878
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:43,830
>> if it's possible even possible. I don't

2879
01:43:43,830 --> 01:43:43,840
» if it's possible even possible. I don't

2880
01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:45,679
because it's a special act.

2881
01:43:45,679 --> 01:43:46,629
>> Yeah. No, I get it.

2882
01:43:46,629 --> 01:43:46,639
» Yeah. No, I get it.

2883
01:43:46,639 --> 01:43:49,990
>> Very different. Um anyway, it just

2884
01:43:49,990 --> 01:43:50,000
» Very different. Um anyway, it just

2885
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:51,679
struck me as I came onto the board. Oh,

2886
01:43:51,679 --> 01:43:53,360
I don't have an alternate. I was really

2887
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:54,639
surprised that I didn't have an

2888
01:43:54,639 --> 01:43:55,360
alternate.

2889
01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:58,070
>> I'm not sure I could find an alternative

2890
01:43:58,070 --> 01:43:58,080
» I'm not sure I could find an alternative

2891
01:43:58,080 --> 01:44:01,119
in my case.

2892
01:44:01,119 --> 01:44:02,950
>> Yeah, that that's definitely something I

2893
01:44:02,950 --> 01:44:02,960
» Yeah, that that's definitely something I

2894
01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:05,520
can research. Um I if the board's

2895
01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:08,880
interested, I can make it a topic um an

2896
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:10,719
item for the board to discuss maybe next

2897
01:44:10,719 --> 01:44:12,239
month or the month after after I've

2898
01:44:12,239 --> 01:44:14,480
talked to legal and um done some

2899
01:44:14,480 --> 01:44:15,600
research on that.

2900
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:18,229
>> Probably be anformational item first.

2901
01:44:18,229 --> 01:44:18,239
» Probably be anformational item first.

2902
01:44:18,239 --> 01:44:20,639
Legal would be what I would think. time.

2903
01:44:20,639 --> 01:44:21,189
>> Cool.

2904
01:44:21,189 --> 01:44:21,199
» Cool.

2905
01:44:21,199 --> 01:44:23,030
>> Yeah. No r no rush. Just

2906
01:44:23,030 --> 01:44:23,040
» Yeah. No r no rush. Just

2907
01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:24,229
>> speaking of legal.

2908
01:44:24,229 --> 01:44:24,239
» speaking of legal.

2909
01:44:24,239 --> 01:44:25,189
>> Yes.

2910
01:44:25,189 --> 01:44:25,199
» Yes.

2911
01:44:25,199 --> 01:44:27,430
>> Can you tell us this?

2912
01:44:27,430 --> 01:44:27,440
» Can you tell us this?

2913
01:44:27,440 --> 01:44:30,310
>> Yeah. So, we um Josh was not available

2914
01:44:30,310 --> 01:44:30,320
» Yeah. So, we um Josh was not available

2915
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:34,159
this meeting. Um and he had asked me if

2916
01:44:34,159 --> 01:44:36,800
there was a desire to have an alternate

2917
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:39,440
show up for this meeting. And so, we had

2918
01:44:39,440 --> 01:44:41,119
a pretty good discussion about his

2919
01:44:41,119 --> 01:44:43,600
position, Josh's position on the

2920
01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:45,760
necessity of having legal present for

2921
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:48,960
every single meeting. um and we came to

2922
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:52,880
the determination that uh when we have a

2923
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:56,159
agenda finalized, we'll take a look at

2924
01:44:56,159 --> 01:44:58,080
it. We'll ask them to take a look at it

2925
01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:00,880
and if either of the parties feel that

2926
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:03,600
there's a legal nexus or a benefit to

2927
01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:05,600
having legal there attend that meeting

2928
01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:08,239
that we can make that call what the week

2929
01:45:08,239 --> 01:45:11,520
prior. Um that's how we're operating

2930
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:14,000
under this meeting. We did not elect to

2931
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:16,960
have his uh assistant show up. If that's

2932
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:18,480
not the direction the board wants to go,

2933
01:45:18,480 --> 01:45:19,920
then we can change. But otherwise,

2934
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:21,840
that's how I plan to proceed with having

2935
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:23,360
legal present in the future.

2936
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:26,229
>> And we saved a thousand bucks.

2937
01:45:26,229 --> 01:45:26,239
» And we saved a thousand bucks.

2938
01:45:26,239 --> 01:45:27,830
>> It's a dollar figure. I don't know

2939
01:45:27,830 --> 01:45:27,840
» It's a dollar figure. I don't know

2940
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:30,080
exactly, but yes.

2941
01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:31,669
>> Do we have case?

2942
01:45:31,669 --> 01:45:31,679
» Do we have case?

2943
01:45:31,679 --> 01:45:33,030
>> Yeah, exactly.

2944
01:45:33,030 --> 01:45:33,040
» Yeah, exactly.

2945
01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:34,709
>> Do we have an update on the employment

2946
01:45:34,709 --> 01:45:34,719
» Do we have an update on the employment

2947
01:45:34,719 --> 01:45:36,400
pattern that got kicked around a couple

2948
01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:39,040
months ago?

2949
01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:41,430
>> No. November.

2950
01:45:41,430 --> 01:45:41,440
» No. November.

2951
01:45:41,440 --> 01:45:42,550
>> November. Okay.

2952
01:45:42,550 --> 01:45:42,560
» November. Okay.

2953
01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:44,070
>> Mid November. I'll have an update in

2954
01:45:44,070 --> 01:45:44,080
» Mid November. I'll have an update in

2955
01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:44,880
close session.

2956
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:46,310
>> Thank you.

2957
01:45:46,310 --> 01:45:46,320
» Thank you.

2958
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:48,950
>> Um I'm I'm comfortable with that on the

2959
01:45:48,950 --> 01:45:48,960
» Um I'm I'm comfortable with that on the

2960
01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:51,199
legal. I'm very comfortable with that.

2961
01:45:51,199 --> 01:45:52,000
That's

2962
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:53,990
>> appropriate.

2963
01:45:53,990 --> 01:45:54,000
» appropriate.

2964
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:54,870
>> Okay.

2965
01:45:54,870 --> 01:45:54,880
» Okay.

2966
01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:57,189
>> Well, that I will let Josh know that

2967
01:45:57,189 --> 01:45:57,199
» Well, that I will let Josh know that

2968
01:45:57,199 --> 01:46:01,430
that is how we proceed.

2969
01:46:01,440 --> 01:46:04,719
» I move to adjourn.

2970
01:46:04,719 --> 01:46:10,310
>> You're on fire.

2971
01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:14,480
» All right. Good job, Scott.