1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:07,980 Now we're good. Okay, now we're going to call this meeting to order. Would you like to lead us into a pledge? 2 00:00:07,980 --> 00:00:09,980 Sir, I 3 00:00:12,860 --> 00:00:18,160 pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 4 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:24,760 Republic for which it stands, one nation and one not indivisible, with liberty and justice 5 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:25,160 grow. 6 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:30,040 Thank you. 7 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,760 We'd like to welcome members of the public who have taken the time to attend this meeting 8 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,640 and provide comment on matters relative to board business. 9 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:50,800 Any member of the public may address the board relating to any matter within the board's 10 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:51,320 jurisdiction. 11 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:59,260 This need not be related to any item on the agenda, however, the Board cannot act on any item unless it was noticed on the agenda. 12 00:01:00,060 --> 00:01:06,640 Persons speaking during the public comment will be limited to five minutes, or depending on the number of persons wishing to speak, 13 00:01:06,860 --> 00:01:11,400 it may be reduced to allow all members of the public the opportunity to address the Board. 14 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:16,160 I would like to speak. 15 00:01:19,960 --> 00:01:21,320 Okay, a consent column? 16 00:01:21,500 --> 00:01:21,780 Thank you. 17 00:01:22,100 --> 00:01:22,560 Oh, who does? 18 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:22,640 Yes. 19 00:01:23,780 --> 00:01:24,140 Okay. 20 00:01:24,260 --> 00:01:24,640 This is Joe. 21 00:01:25,660 --> 00:01:26,340 Good afternoon. 22 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:27,340 Good afternoon. 23 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,980 I live up in the Twain Art on Plateau Road. 24 00:01:31,940 --> 00:01:33,920 They're in a real recent power outage. 25 00:01:36,350 --> 00:01:37,810 Pumped that services are a street. 26 00:01:38,990 --> 00:01:41,910 I think it's called down here and it said it was Thunderbolt Mine or something. 27 00:01:42,090 --> 00:01:43,270 I don't know if it was Thunderbolt Mine. 28 00:01:44,070 --> 00:01:45,770 But it doesn't have a generator on it. 29 00:01:45,870 --> 00:01:46,930 I guess all the others do. 30 00:01:47,030 --> 00:01:51,230 And I'm questioning why we, because I didn't get, we got our power back. 31 00:01:51,230 --> 00:01:59,610 We didn't get our water back for there to why is there a reason that there's there's no 32 00:02:00,610 --> 00:02:01,870 Generator on that pump station 33 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,060 We call that a pump station see a rock pump station. It is 34 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,260 It's one of the many booster stations without 35 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,040 Why talk you said it was just one of the few 36 00:02:21,580 --> 00:02:22,740 Why don't they have 37 00:02:23,900 --> 00:02:42,780 It's a long story, again, we have 57 booster stations all over the county, all over our area and through the year, as we can, we try to improve the situation to supply gravity where we can, or put it a generator where we can. 38 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:48,040 We're in a bot process, this is where I'd like to do the center time with the Tuerrax CSD 39 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,960 some day, get a gravity supply from them. 40 00:02:51,180 --> 00:02:53,820 It's just another one of many projects we have not to. 41 00:02:54,380 --> 00:02:54,480 Yes. 42 00:02:54,860 --> 00:02:56,340 One of the words, tough luck. 43 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:03,520 Well, I can say it that way, but one of those areas depends this way. 44 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,540 Well, we took over that Cedar Rock company. 45 00:03:08,620 --> 00:03:09,720 I don't know how long ago. 46 00:03:09,740 --> 00:03:10,660 That was before my time. 47 00:03:10,660 --> 00:03:12,120 We took that over back. 48 00:03:12,420 --> 00:03:12,780 Okay. 49 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:14,840 Do you have any idea, Don, when it's going to come back on? 50 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:16,080 Oh, it's on mine. 51 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:16,640 Oh, it's on now. 52 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:16,920 Okay. 53 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:17,880 It was out for two days. 54 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:19,720 You said four days. 55 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:20,640 Four days. 56 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:21,540 Four days. 57 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:23,580 And this is the first time. 58 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:24,380 No, I mean. 59 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,620 I mean, we're at a regular, a regular thing. 60 00:03:26,940 --> 00:03:27,520 It's kind of frustrated. 61 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,420 I mean, that should be tree falls, knocks on the power line, stuff. 62 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:32,140 I understand that. 63 00:03:34,380 --> 00:03:34,940 Hey, Don. 64 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:35,740 You still have water. 65 00:03:36,180 --> 00:03:38,920 So is this a tank that goes dry or is it a pressure system? 66 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:39,500 Pressure 67 00:03:41,780 --> 00:03:41,880 system. 68 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:42,520 Something in here. 69 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:53,660 Yeah, it was ill-conceived from inception and we got it so there's no way to fix it directly. No, there's there's ways to fix it. 70 00:03:54,060 --> 00:03:58,340 It's a generator, prioritizing our funds and outgating the fund, right? 71 00:03:58,500 --> 00:03:59,500 It's a generator, right? 72 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:00,500 I think it's a cost. 73 00:04:01,220 --> 00:04:02,580 I think it's a cost. 74 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,580 Okay, I guess I'd answer my question. 75 00:04:06,020 --> 00:04:07,400 Thank you. 76 00:04:07,660 --> 00:04:08,280 Okay, thank you. 77 00:04:09,540 --> 00:04:11,100 Are there any other comments? 78 00:04:11,100 --> 00:04:16,840 staff will talk about our priorities and you know just for the gentlemen say we do have a cap on 79 00:04:16,840 --> 00:04:22,280 equipment workshop coming up in a couple of months and all these projects and priorities 80 00:04:22,280 --> 00:04:28,200 get formulated in that CIP process and we'll talk to the German for 20 years is the 81 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:36,560 Trump tribe and we'll look at this to no guarantees but we are concerned it's important to us 82 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,060 and we'll do what we can. 83 00:04:38,420 --> 00:04:40,300 Well, it'd be important to everybody 84 00:04:40,300 --> 00:04:41,460 if they lost their water too. 85 00:04:41,700 --> 00:04:42,180 I agree. 86 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:43,080 Yeah. 87 00:04:43,220 --> 00:04:44,200 Totally agree. 88 00:04:45,580 --> 00:04:47,440 In fact, you got to know what electricity is 89 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:48,460 once you can run a generator, 90 00:04:48,740 --> 00:04:49,880 and these keep your stuff cold, 91 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,640 but you can't flush a toilet, you can't, you know? 92 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:53,820 No, we understand. 93 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,920 Well, we'll definitely look at it, 94 00:04:56,180 --> 00:04:57,280 and we'll see if we'll do it. 95 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:58,560 It seems like a pretty simple fix, 96 00:04:58,780 --> 00:05:00,020 but a generator in a pump station. 97 00:05:00,460 --> 00:05:02,340 I think it's more than just a generator. 98 00:05:02,340 --> 00:05:05,000 We're talking a few other expensive pieces in place. 99 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:10,640 So I think what we're looking at, see what we can do, understand it. 100 00:05:11,140 --> 00:05:11,400 Okay. 101 00:05:12,340 --> 00:05:13,180 Thank you very much. 102 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:13,840 Thanks. 103 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:14,860 Thank you. 104 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:15,280 Thank you. 105 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,460 Can you all make sure that your microphones are on? 106 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:19,780 I think mine's on. 107 00:05:21,060 --> 00:05:21,740 Rollins is off. 108 00:05:22,420 --> 00:05:22,980 Thank you very much. 109 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:23,740 I don't know if I'm talking. 110 00:05:26,700 --> 00:05:29,460 Is there any other members of the public who like my comment at this time? 111 00:05:30,540 --> 00:05:32,180 I've got just one more question on that. 112 00:05:32,180 --> 00:05:37,180 on how many customers you think are on there just approximately that's served by his 113 00:05:37,180 --> 00:05:38,240 pump station. 114 00:05:38,980 --> 00:05:39,460 Five. 115 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,850 Less than about a dozen. 116 00:05:44,350 --> 00:05:44,570 Okay. 117 00:05:44,810 --> 00:05:46,090 So you know where this is, do you? 118 00:05:46,150 --> 00:05:47,470 Oh yeah, I know where Thunderbolt Minus is. 119 00:05:47,470 --> 00:05:52,850 This office is up there on top between the 108 and higher road and plateau. 120 00:05:53,170 --> 00:05:53,410 Uh-huh. 121 00:05:54,150 --> 00:05:57,170 The apartment is down there and I have a breakdown in Thunderbolt. 122 00:05:57,670 --> 00:05:57,850 Yeah. 123 00:05:58,710 --> 00:05:59,970 I have a question. 124 00:06:00,630 --> 00:06:00,690 Yeah. 125 00:06:00,690 --> 00:06:09,910 Don, when we use a backup generator, are they usually diesel and do you have to worry about the diesel getting old in the tanks and stuff like that, and how does that work? 126 00:06:12,980 --> 00:06:18,260 Some of our diesel, some of our propane, on the diesel ones, yes, we do have to worry about the fuel. 127 00:06:20,140 --> 00:06:21,800 Do they know about the presentation? 128 00:06:25,990 --> 00:06:27,030 No, they don't. 129 00:06:27,030 --> 00:06:29,730 But, yeah, certainly we don't. 130 00:06:29,910 --> 00:06:32,570 So I'm going to give a big presentation and this will be a 131 00:06:32,570 --> 00:06:34,070 trip time and ask all the questions right now. 132 00:06:34,130 --> 00:06:37,850 Yeah, and in public comment, you know, we can, if it's simple, 133 00:06:37,970 --> 00:06:41,290 we can respond, but it really does need to be agendized. 134 00:06:41,490 --> 00:06:45,110 But we do have a presentation coming up of the impact of the winter 135 00:06:45,110 --> 00:06:46,370 storms on operations. 136 00:06:46,430 --> 00:06:50,270 And that's a good time for your board to talk about some of the issues. 137 00:06:50,850 --> 00:06:50,990 Great. 138 00:06:51,170 --> 00:06:51,430 Thanks. 139 00:06:52,930 --> 00:06:54,510 Okay, we'll move on to the consent calendar. 140 00:06:55,330 --> 00:07:00,970 Okay, item number one, minutes of a regular board meeting of January 22, 2019. 141 00:07:01,650 --> 00:07:05,690 Item number two, approval of reimbursement claims for director's statement of meetings 142 00:07:05,690 --> 00:07:11,170 attended and or travel expenses and the claim summary of January 2019. 143 00:07:11,970 --> 00:07:14,030 Item number three, reject claim for damages. 144 00:07:14,030 --> 00:07:22,850 Actors claim number 18-06 and Dia Shans Sherritt at that and Austin Sherritt claimants. 145 00:07:23,370 --> 00:07:31,670 Item number four, authorize general manager to execute amendment number one to agreement for sediment reuse on land's owned by summer's family investments. 146 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,340 I didn't want to pull one, I just said one question for Eric on one. 147 00:07:38,300 --> 00:07:40,020 I do want to pull two. 148 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,840 Okay, but I mean, go ahead and maybe you'll get ahead. 149 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,680 I just have a question on four, I don't want to pull. 150 00:07:47,340 --> 00:07:51,460 Eric, I just had a question with the extension of that contract. 151 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:56,120 I assume you're anticipating that we're going to start a year from now and 152 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:00,880 then it's going to be a two year process so you allow that contract, you know, to be a worst case scenario. 153 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:01,660 Exactly. 154 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:02,440 Okay. 155 00:08:03,980 --> 00:08:04,380 Okay. 156 00:08:04,380 --> 00:08:10,500 Okay, I'd like to pull items two and three, okay? 157 00:08:13,010 --> 00:08:15,110 Any other discussion on the consent calendar? 158 00:08:20,370 --> 00:08:24,950 Probably a motion to approve one and four then and then we'll discuss two and three. 159 00:08:25,030 --> 00:08:25,410 You want to do that? 160 00:08:26,270 --> 00:08:28,510 I'll make a motion to approve one and four. 161 00:08:29,190 --> 00:08:29,770 I'll second it. 162 00:08:30,270 --> 00:08:32,890 It's been regularly moved and seconded that we approve one and four. 163 00:08:33,270 --> 00:08:35,130 All those in favor signify by saying aye. 164 00:08:35,450 --> 00:08:35,610 Aye. 165 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:42,120 Okay. 166 00:08:44,780 --> 00:08:45,140 Okay. 167 00:08:45,140 --> 00:08:45,400 Mr. Rain. 168 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:46,660 Okay. 169 00:08:47,060 --> 00:08:58,160 On number two, I see we've had a format change and I don't want to be labor this, but 170 00:08:58,680 --> 00:09:06,790 in early 2012, when I was first on the board, before I got on the board, I didn't really 171 00:09:06,790 --> 00:09:09,870 We understand what the claims summary was all about. 172 00:09:10,010 --> 00:09:15,690 I just see the board basically rubber stamp at every month. 173 00:09:17,190 --> 00:09:23,830 And once I was on the board, what we were being given at that time and 174 00:09:23,830 --> 00:09:35,790 it apparently had gone on forever was just the total amount of checks that had been paid for that past month with no real description. 175 00:09:35,790 --> 00:09:44,170 And so I said at that time, I think it was in February or something, the second month I was on the board. 176 00:09:44,350 --> 00:09:48,270 I said, I'm never going to vote yes on this thing again until I know what's in it. 177 00:09:48,390 --> 00:09:57,530 I mean get 800,000 to a million dollars and there's no description of where that money went. 178 00:09:57,530 --> 00:10:23,830 So, at that time, I think Steve Sheffield had just taken over as the finance director, I believe, and anyway, he was instrumental along with the GM at that time of putting together the claim summary that we've been seeing for the past number of years. 179 00:10:23,830 --> 00:10:37,170 and it has every check listed, has every vendor, it has brief description enough so that you can figure out what the check was actually for, and now it's disappeared. 180 00:10:38,430 --> 00:10:53,510 This is not acceptable. I mean, you have no way of knowing where this money's gone, and it's not that I think that the finance department or anybody in the organization is doing anything that is improper. 181 00:10:53,510 --> 00:11:03,430 But I think it's important for, that's why the board directors were elected was to take care of our ratepayers. 182 00:11:03,930 --> 00:11:08,950 And if we don't know where the money is going, we're not taking care of our ratepayers. 183 00:11:09,310 --> 00:11:13,090 So I'm going to have to vote no on this today. 184 00:11:13,570 --> 00:11:20,830 And I can only hope that we go back to the old, it's not old, the one that we've been using. 185 00:11:20,830 --> 00:11:24,490 that format for quite a number of years. 186 00:11:29,590 --> 00:11:30,310 Any other comments? 187 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:37,620 Are there options in the way it's formulated? 188 00:11:38,300 --> 00:11:40,180 Perhaps there may be. 189 00:11:40,180 --> 00:11:40,360 Yes. 190 00:11:40,500 --> 00:11:41,140 All right, come on. 191 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:42,320 Start 192 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:46,320 to respond to that or not. 193 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,000 Okay. Good afternoon, everyone. 194 00:11:50,220 --> 00:11:51,920 Steve, should I have your finance director? 195 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:59,520 And yeah, in hindsight, I apologize for not having this discussion before it went out. 196 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:06,400 edge came to me we were under some time constraints as I told you at the last 197 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:11,260 important meeting we're really in the heart of the transition with our financial 198 00:12:11,260 --> 00:12:17,320 software and actually the month of January is half the old system and half the 199 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:24,050 new system and so we've spent every day over time getting things going the whole 200 00:12:24,050 --> 00:12:33,850 So, you know, the Claim Summary itself, Director Ringen is correct that when I got here, I inherited a one-page sheet that had the total for the month. 201 00:12:34,990 --> 00:12:38,550 Claim Summaries vary widely from district to district. 202 00:12:38,990 --> 00:12:48,290 If you've ever been associated with a school or a county or a city, some of them have a check register, some have a warrant register, some have a listing. 203 00:12:48,290 --> 00:12:55,390 There's no official, dictated form, it's what's best serves the majority of the board. 204 00:12:56,410 --> 00:13:00,950 And so at that time there was a lot of discussion about what was needed, what was wanted, some 205 00:13:00,950 --> 00:13:05,250 board members wanted, account posting, some board members just wanted to check register. 206 00:13:05,930 --> 00:13:10,770 But anyway, that's what we landed on back in 2012 and what you have been provided each 207 00:13:10,770 --> 00:13:11,730 month since then. 208 00:13:11,730 --> 00:13:18,130 So, when we got to this one, I went to our general manager head and basically the old format 209 00:13:18,130 --> 00:13:19,310 doesn't exist anymore. 210 00:13:19,710 --> 00:13:21,810 I mean, we're in a new system now. 211 00:13:22,390 --> 00:13:23,370 We're still learning it. 212 00:13:23,470 --> 00:13:28,270 We're still bringing balances over every day on finding out about the capabilities. 213 00:13:28,570 --> 00:13:30,470 It has a tremendous amount of capabilities. 214 00:13:31,190 --> 00:13:32,610 So, we had a decision to make. 215 00:13:32,830 --> 00:13:39,810 Do we proceed with what is fairly a standard format, which is this was the software consultants 216 00:13:39,810 --> 00:13:45,310 coming from other similar agencies, and some we actually visited typically do. 217 00:13:45,510 --> 00:13:50,530 It's much more of a check register shows the payee, the check amount, and the dollar amount. 218 00:13:51,230 --> 00:13:53,950 And I said, Ed, here's what I have right now. 219 00:13:54,250 --> 00:13:58,050 I know we need to get the packet out for the board members. 220 00:13:58,630 --> 00:13:59,730 We can go with this. 221 00:14:00,110 --> 00:14:06,170 We can not include it at all, or again, I'll continue to see what's available to us. 222 00:14:06,170 --> 00:14:10,790 And I think in this system we're going to have everything from one extreme to the other. 223 00:14:11,590 --> 00:14:20,990 So at that time, I think Ed and I both agreed, well, let's go with this and I know there's going to be at least one more member who'll be confused and be against it. 224 00:14:21,490 --> 00:14:23,230 But at least to start. 225 00:14:23,610 --> 00:14:26,990 Now certainly anything that's on there can be provided. 226 00:14:27,570 --> 00:14:32,270 The premise with a lot of districts and everything else is that when I'm recording to you, 227 00:14:32,270 --> 00:14:37,070 like I'm going to do later today with the quarterly financial statements, that's really 228 00:14:37,070 --> 00:14:39,210 your summary of where the money went and what it did. 229 00:14:39,950 --> 00:14:41,990 The check register is typically just that. 230 00:14:42,150 --> 00:14:44,170 All governmental agencies will do some form. 231 00:14:44,430 --> 00:14:48,690 Now again, if we want to list, you know, the problem we had, at least from my perspective, 232 00:14:48,830 --> 00:14:53,050 the problem we had with the prior format is it didn't include quantities. 233 00:14:53,470 --> 00:14:57,790 So you might have a member of the public say, why did you spend $96 on a hose? 234 00:14:57,790 --> 00:14:59,850 Well, it wasn't one hoe. 235 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:28,000 It was, you know, 30 hoses or something of that sort. And there was no way to really work around that. But it was very transparent. And everybody could look at and see everything from dog treat dog biscuits. I was wondering, why do they have dog biscuits? Think of it. It's our meter readers. You're out there and angry dog runs up instead of spraying them. You give them a dog biscuit. But anyway, so our claim summary includes everything from dog biscuits to wrenches to polymers to everything in between. 236 00:15:29,060 --> 00:15:35,280 So this is what we got, I would certainly continue to expose to the board, I'm more 237 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:39,200 willing to work with whatever you all want to need. I told the same thing to 238 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,260 add, honestly, I've had four different claims summaries under six different 239 00:15:43,260 --> 00:15:48,880 general managers. Even this last one changed under our interim general manager. So 240 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:53,840 this is new, the financials are going to change and looks, we're going to go 241 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:59,780 forward and but I'm here to serve the board in whatever format they do and especially on this one, 242 00:15:59,960 --> 00:16:05,080 I can bring it back to the board in a different format if that's their direction. I'm always 243 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:10,280 available if you want to come to me and say what was this check for or whatever but it's really a 244 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:15,840 board's decision as to what you want to do and again apologize for no advance notice on this but 245 00:16:16,300 --> 00:16:22,260 this is what we did to start with but I assure you there are other options available and if that had 246 00:16:22,260 --> 00:16:23,360 any comments, Dad? 247 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:30,380 I would just confirm that this is pretty much what you see before you is a kind of an industry standard. 248 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,660 In some cities, they don't even provide the warrant list. 249 00:16:33,660 --> 00:16:37,480 In this case, you have the vendor name, the amount, the day. 250 00:16:37,940 --> 00:16:45,940 If you see any anomalies or regularities or something that catches your eye that's larger than you expect to be, 251 00:16:47,740 --> 00:16:50,940 I would like to think that you would call staff. 252 00:16:51,500 --> 00:16:57,060 We have all the documentation, we're happy to provide that detailed information. 253 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:06,000 But this is a summary list intended to provide your board the summary of all the checks that are written over the course of the month. 254 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:14,720 So, the problem there is 255 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:23,680 that there are some of these vendors like Bank of America, and 256 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,840 there's a few others who I can't think of right off the top of my head. 257 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:40,340 And for several years now, at least, well since 2012, there was numerous checks within 258 00:17:40,340 --> 00:17:45,300 in that one vendor, and it took me a lot of time. 259 00:17:45,420 --> 00:17:50,960 I mean, I used to spend several hours every month, 260 00:17:50,980 --> 00:17:56,200 prior to the meeting, going through every single line item, 261 00:17:56,380 --> 00:18:01,380 every vendor, and looking to see where that money was spent. 262 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:08,360 And it was always, I mean, I don't think there's anybody here 263 00:18:08,360 --> 00:18:12,820 at TUD that's doing anything that's not kosher and so on. 264 00:18:12,940 --> 00:18:19,060 But I know I've questioned Steve several times 265 00:18:19,060 --> 00:18:22,280 like, because I've been in the construction trade 266 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,960 for 56 years. 267 00:18:25,100 --> 00:18:29,220 I've got tools that I bought that are still usable 268 00:18:29,220 --> 00:18:31,140 from the 60s. 269 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:37,040 And when I see every month shovel after shovel, 270 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:47,820 after shovel bought, when I see gloves, after gloves bought, sun glasses, I start to get 271 00:18:47,820 --> 00:18:53,480 really kind of a little, I got a question and I do. 272 00:18:54,160 --> 00:19:01,720 And I just, right now, there's no way you can tell anything of use or anything else. 273 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:06,680 You just given a vendor a number in an amount, period. 274 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:16,320 One that you also have electronic fund transfers, those were not provided before they're now on this report. 275 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:37,760 I mean, from my standpoint, this provides me as much detail as I need, because what I really look for is your quarterly reports, and the other things to see where we are against performance the budget, and I expect to be looking at that detail. 276 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,860 That being said, you know, I understand Ron wants to look at it in more detail. 277 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,560 I want to look at it in relation to the overall budget that we've put in place. 278 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:50,280 So every board member's, every board member's different, but this works for me. 279 00:19:50,660 --> 00:19:50,760 So, 280 00:19:52,900 --> 00:19:53,240 Barbara? 281 00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:59,180 I find it interesting when you do look at it as you always learn something from it. 282 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:05,920 You learn the complexity and the, you know, hardiness or fragility of the system. 283 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:13,340 And so, I think at some point, if the system can spit out how many of this or how many 284 00:20:13,340 --> 00:20:20,460 of that, not to do any kind of catch or anything, but because it's fascinating the dog 285 00:20:20,460 --> 00:20:27,560 biscuit part, but it's a learning process to see, because after a while your mind is looking 286 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:32,660 at patterns between the summer and the winter and trends and why these costs are why we're 287 00:20:32,660 --> 00:20:37,120 any more on gloves, you know, because we're maybe going through them, or the weasered 288 00:20:37,120 --> 00:20:38,420 hall and we're losing them. 289 00:20:39,380 --> 00:20:44,560 So if the program can handle it, I think we all look at this in different ways in the 290 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,000 level like you for performance. 291 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:55,980 So maybe it might be good to have a part of the program that can spit out that when the 292 00:20:55,980 --> 00:20:58,760 the capability is there, and when you've learned it. 293 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:05,960 Yeah, I mean, one of the things I always look at is, you know, I'm interested in what 294 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,280 is our power, you know, needs on a monthly basis. 295 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:15,660 So, I'm always looking at what do we pay to PG&E, and then what do we pay to the other independent 296 00:21:15,660 --> 00:21:21,620 power provider, you know, the JPA that we're part of, and it always amazes me how much power 297 00:21:21,620 --> 00:21:26,120 we have to do to do a system in this this area when you're going going up and down. 298 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:32,060 But, you know, so I do look at certain vendors that in there and see the trends of where it's going. 299 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:36,960 But as far as the gloves, you know, I think to each his own, but at the end of the day, 300 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,880 I want to know how we're performing to the budget that we set up that adds managing 301 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,400 and your everybody else is performing to. 302 00:21:44,420 --> 00:21:48,440 You know, and some agencies include a big packet, you know, with their monthly one. 303 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:53,720 They may have a variety of reports to satisfy different needs, different stakeholders, different 304 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:54,140 users. 305 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,940 But I know Ron's well aware of this as well, but, you know, for the rest of the board, 306 00:21:59,460 --> 00:22:04,280 our internal process is we don't cut a check to anybody unless I have proven. 307 00:22:05,060 --> 00:22:10,780 So I had not knowingly ever cut a check for something that wasn't necessary to the operations 308 00:22:10,780 --> 00:22:11,540 of T&D. 309 00:22:12,060 --> 00:22:17,660 I've never cut a check for something that I felt was extraordinary, extravagant or wasn't 310 00:22:17,660 --> 00:22:22,180 a fair price. So there is a process in place. And like you mentioned, Ron, I have a binder 311 00:22:22,180 --> 00:22:26,320 in there. I know I had to see it before, too. But there are certain things I'm really concerned 312 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:31,460 with, too. What's our power usage? What's our power cost? What's our fuel usage? What's our fuel 313 00:22:31,460 --> 00:22:35,760 cost? What's our insurance? So, a lot of those I'm tracking. And hopefully, you know, I think 314 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:40,140 either in the last money statement or the one before, I kind of say, did you know what are our top 315 00:22:40,140 --> 00:22:46,320 10 expenses and stuff? So, I would encourage you, you know, hopefully you don't have to do a spreadsheet 316 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:51,900 to track energy cost if you like, I can provide that to you because I do that in my day to day activity. 317 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:57,760 Same sort of thing with Ron and some of his questions, you know, the guys go through stuff. 318 00:22:57,980 --> 00:23:02,060 They're out floating snow or walking down the water and sometimes are we getting a new truck and 319 00:23:02,060 --> 00:23:06,880 we got to put in some new supplies for the truck or whatever. But, you know, we're certainly 320 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:13,440 want to be encouraging, to be transparent, to provide information that helps you to do your job 321 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,320 in your role. And each of you probably view that a little differently if you get to 322 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,380 go to the district and what you want to do. So I don't know if this is something maybe 323 00:23:21,380 --> 00:23:26,800 during the strategic plan. I mean, we spent time on that and the financials. We certainly 324 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:32,340 like I said, once this is up and running, I think the capabilities to rapidly and creatively 325 00:23:32,340 --> 00:23:36,940 produce information out of the system is going to be far easier than it ever has been. 326 00:23:36,940 --> 00:23:43,160 And so we just kind of need a board consensus as to what we might want to look back. 327 00:23:43,380 --> 00:23:45,740 And obviously we don't have to do that right now. 328 00:23:46,100 --> 00:23:48,520 I mean, that could be a future thing or something we discuss. 329 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:54,300 And again, whether you accept it or not for this one, I can see what I got by the next meeting 330 00:23:54,300 --> 00:23:58,380 and hopefully come back with something different and show you what else I can readily do. 331 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,420 But it really comes down to looking at other agencies, how much detail you want. 332 00:24:02,900 --> 00:24:04,560 Somebody here might want to know it's a wrench. 333 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:10,460 Somebody over here said no, I just want to know that the total and the vendor and again you're gonna get the financial 334 00:24:10,460 --> 00:24:16,780 Report you're gonna get budget documents. That's all separate. This is more, I guess to house keeping it if you will 335 00:24:16,780 --> 00:24:20,540 And I'm not encouraging we go to just a check register, but it's just it's an option. 336 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:24,660 Any questions, Steve? 337 00:24:25,980 --> 00:24:26,880 Any other questions? 338 00:24:27,380 --> 00:24:29,600 Sure, did I hear you say that it's not capable of 339 00:24:30,360 --> 00:24:31,220 Spittin it out the old one? 340 00:24:31,220 --> 00:24:35,740 No, what I was trying to say is the old format is from a different system. 341 00:24:35,740 --> 00:24:38,440 It was a custom report made within that system. 342 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,900 The new system definitely has that capability. 343 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,920 I'm just still trying to learn what the different options are. 344 00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:49,200 So the old one does need this, the new one, the information there. 345 00:24:49,300 --> 00:24:50,620 It's just finding the report. 346 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:56,380 The report format from Tyler's, I believe, is used elsewhere. 347 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:01,460 So this is part of the portion of the software that's canned. 348 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,420 There's probably a custom report writing capability. 349 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:10,880 So if you're a board majority says, hey, we want more information, we will have to write 350 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:19,780 a custom report that then will be a tool that we can use for future board package, you 351 00:25:19,780 --> 00:25:23,500 know, part of your board package, but it's going to take a little time to write it. 352 00:25:23,580 --> 00:25:27,280 For now, we're using one of the tools that was provided by Tyler. 353 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,880 And again, I don't want to insinuate this was intentional or anything. 354 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,500 We're under a crunch, we're trying to get it out, and the consultant help us said, 355 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:41,680 hey, here's what Paradise uses. Here's what Oakdale uses. Here's what somebody in the Bay Area 356 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:46,980 uses or whatever. So he was able to rapidly provide this with our information. Actually, it's kind 357 00:25:46,980 --> 00:25:53,380 of the inverse of what Ed said, under our old system, everything was custom. Under this new system, 358 00:25:53,660 --> 00:25:59,320 they have standard reports that are flexible, informational, easy to get information out. So 359 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,900 So actually, he just provided this and say, hey, try this. 360 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,880 I know you're under a crunch, here's what it does, and generate immediately. 361 00:26:06,420 --> 00:26:08,340 We have other reports that will be just as easy. 362 00:26:08,620 --> 00:26:11,460 We won't have to have customization or anything on notice, I'm confident. 363 00:26:12,060 --> 00:26:13,600 So, good question. 364 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:18,140 Is there a consensus, is Board happy with this, or do you want more? 365 00:26:18,380 --> 00:26:27,940 And if you want more, we'll have to explore the work involved with custom writing a new report to meet what that more is. 366 00:26:31,460 --> 00:26:33,500 I'd kind of like to see a little more custom on it. 367 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,100 Like more in the description? 368 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:40,700 Yeah, I don't, just to clarify, I probably don't go line by line like Rhonda's, but it's 369 00:26:40,700 --> 00:26:46,120 nice to, especially on some of the larger items and whatnot, to be able to see what the 370 00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:46,800 breakdown is. 371 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:47,160 Sure. 372 00:26:47,620 --> 00:26:47,720 Yeah. 373 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:48,740 I agree. 374 00:26:51,570 --> 00:26:56,230 The better I understand what y'all look for, so, you know, about the very next meeting, I 375 00:26:56,230 --> 00:27:01,110 can have something that has additional information what I'm hearing is more of a description of 376 00:27:01,110 --> 00:27:04,490 the item purchased and see what I come up with. 377 00:27:05,730 --> 00:27:06,370 That work? 378 00:27:07,710 --> 00:27:08,850 Okay, thank you, Steve. 379 00:27:09,150 --> 00:27:09,450 Thank you. 380 00:27:09,650 --> 00:27:13,810 You want to just go on that line item because you had another line item that you pulled as well. 381 00:27:14,670 --> 00:27:19,130 Yeah, I just have a question which I don't know who it should be directed to. 382 00:27:20,210 --> 00:27:28,070 That's an insurance claim for a backup and I read through that item. 383 00:27:28,070 --> 00:27:37,530 And the way it was written up, it made it sound like it was all TUD's fault. 384 00:27:37,890 --> 00:27:47,190 And yet, if you really read into it, it sounds like, to me, the lateral was a problem. 385 00:27:48,050 --> 00:27:56,150 Well, then I don't, you know, the way it was written up, all the blame was to TUD, 386 00:27:56,150 --> 00:28:02,030 And the routes and the thing, other things that were in the pipe had nothing to do with TUD is what I'm trying to say. 387 00:28:02,130 --> 00:28:03,150 That's the way I read it. 388 00:28:04,090 --> 00:28:06,990 Wasn't it written up by the homeowner that was submitting the claim? 389 00:28:07,250 --> 00:28:08,850 So that's why it was written up that way. 390 00:28:09,250 --> 00:28:11,570 Well, I can't assume anything. 391 00:28:11,830 --> 00:28:13,050 I just read what I read. 392 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,400 So I handle the claims here. 393 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,240 So Ron's correct. 394 00:28:23,420 --> 00:28:25,720 The claimant fills out the claim form. 395 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,200 That's how you start the process with the claim against TUD. 396 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:35,920 So, this is the claimants claim form, we attach it with the package so that you can see what the claimant is claiming. 397 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:41,920 And just for all those reasons, we as the district believe that it is not the district's liability, 398 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:49,320 that it was in the lateral line, and we did do an investigation to ensure that our main was clear and it was. 399 00:28:50,220 --> 00:28:52,340 So, that's what we would recommend that it be rejected. 400 00:28:52,340 --> 00:29:00,720 I could have almost guaranteed that that's exactly what came down, and I did know that the homeowner had filled out the claim form. 401 00:29:01,060 --> 00:29:05,940 So I'm sure that the insurance company will have a lot of fun with it. 402 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:07,440 I'll be wanted at the time. 403 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,360 Yeah, thanks when I actually wanted to pull this item for the very same reason. 404 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:19,460 When I read it, I couldn't quite figure out where the clog was. 405 00:29:19,460 --> 00:29:30,840 And then I went, so I went back to the background on our little sheet, and I couldn't figure it out because I was just one sense. 406 00:29:31,100 --> 00:29:45,100 And so it seems to me that in the background, it might have a little level, it might have that level of detail, which is really where what you came up with, and maybe you didn't have it at that point. 407 00:29:45,100 --> 00:30:00,040 But just so when you read the claim and obviously they're going to say her and they're frustrated and they checked into a hotel for a couple nights and I don't blame them and all that but then from our side there wasn't anything that let the board know exactly what we 408 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:29,420 I wanted to know, which is, well, whose side of this, whose side was it on? And I don't know if we could put that in the future, in the background. We'll put some background, more detailed background, because we did have the information. Yeah, we pull from when we have these types of claims, we go back to our, typically when it's a wastewater, we go back to the wastewater ordinance, and there are very specific sections related to sewer laterals and backflow devices, and where the clean-out should be located on the property. 409 00:30:29,980 --> 00:30:35,080 to ensure that it's not going in the house or in the basement, but if there is a backup 410 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:40,220 that it would go outside. So, typically this is the amount of information that's been 411 00:30:40,220 --> 00:30:45,180 provided to the board and we handle all the background, but if you'd like more information 412 00:30:45,180 --> 00:30:46,020 we can provide it. 413 00:30:48,860 --> 00:30:49,020 Okay. 414 00:30:49,460 --> 00:30:50,000 Thank you, Abby. 415 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:54,060 Okay. 416 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,640 Any other comments from the public? 417 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:09,560 like? They will bring back to the board. Director Rangan, would you like to keep these things 418 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,120 pulled the same way or would you like to address them together? 419 00:31:15,260 --> 00:31:17,560 You can go either way. I'll 420 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:23,760 deal with it. Okay. Well, let's vote on number two first. Approval of reimbursement claims 421 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:30,160 for director's statement of meetings attended by or travel expenses in the claim summary 422 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:35,120 for January 2019 of a motion. 423 00:31:35,780 --> 00:31:37,360 I'll move that we accept number two. 424 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:38,900 I'll second. 425 00:31:39,340 --> 00:31:41,340 Then we'll move to the second that we accept number two. 426 00:31:41,660 --> 00:31:43,200 All those in favor signify by saying aye. 427 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:43,740 Aye. 428 00:31:44,340 --> 00:31:47,300 I very reluctantly say aye. 429 00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:50,280 You're unanimous. 430 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,040 Okay number three reject claims for damages. 431 00:31:53,380 --> 00:31:55,340 Claim number 18-06. 432 00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:00,800 Mathias Sands, Saray, and Augustine Saray claimants. 433 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:01,880 I make the motion. 434 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:12,880 And I'll second it's been regularly moved in a second that we reject claims for damages claim number 1806 and Thia San Saray and Augustine Saray Augustine Saray. 435 00:32:12,980 --> 00:32:19,280 I think it's claimants. All any other comment? All those in favor signify by saying aye. 436 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:19,820 Aye. 437 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,360 And then the rest of the consent calendar. Is there a motion? 438 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:27,240 We already. 439 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:28,440 We already did. 440 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:28,580 Yes. 441 00:32:30,610 --> 00:32:31,250 Thank you more sleep. 442 00:32:31,250 --> 00:32:31,610 I think. 443 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,710 We'll move on to regular business number five. 444 00:32:34,710 --> 00:32:36,950 Sequa notice of number five. 445 00:32:37,110 --> 00:32:37,730 I've got it. 446 00:32:38,030 --> 00:32:38,890 Item number five. 447 00:32:39,070 --> 00:32:44,150 Sequa notice of determination and agreement regarding construction and transfer of water and 448 00:32:44,150 --> 00:32:44,470 sewer. 449 00:32:44,690 --> 00:32:50,770 Main line extensions to serve the Eagle Ridge development phase one, Edward L and Carla J. Brown 450 00:32:50,770 --> 00:32:51,950 and Kristi S. Brown. 451 00:32:53,390 --> 00:33:08,750 President, members of the board, this agenda item is a CEQA notice of determination and development agreement, or the Eagle Ridge phase one development, which if you're not familiar with Eagle Ridge, it's right across the street here. 452 00:33:10,810 --> 00:33:18,250 Your ABC roofing, you can access it through that loop road or right over near the flooring supply company there. 453 00:33:20,130 --> 00:33:24,510 And it's a pretty standard flavor development agreement. 454 00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:28,650 This proposed development's been around since 2013. 455 00:33:29,270 --> 00:33:32,630 It had an approved sequa through the county. 456 00:33:32,890 --> 00:33:38,830 We are not the lead agency, we're the responsible agency just dealing with water and 457 00:33:38,830 --> 00:33:41,010 sewer infrastructure. 458 00:33:41,010 --> 00:34:01,070 The project proponent came back and scaled his development plans down and reduced the number of units that they were planning and that went through another certification process with the county. 459 00:34:01,070 --> 00:34:09,990 So, the secret is complete, the developer is ready to move forward this summer with this phase one. 460 00:34:10,970 --> 00:34:26,070 The subsequent phase one is 24 units, and subsequent phases will require a separate development agreement with the board, partly because we're just not sure when that may move forward. 461 00:34:26,070 --> 00:34:39,570 The project proponent is unsure of that, and our agreements typically have an 18 month term, and so we didn't want to shoulder them with an 18 month term to complete the whole project. 462 00:34:40,890 --> 00:34:50,150 So, I'm happy to answer any questions about the detail of the staff report or about the proposed development agreement. 463 00:34:51,130 --> 00:34:51,890 Yes. 464 00:34:51,890 --> 00:34:51,990 Yes. 465 00:34:52,810 --> 00:34:53,230 Okay. 466 00:34:53,690 --> 00:34:53,830 Okay. 467 00:34:54,190 --> 00:34:55,250 I'm just curious. 468 00:34:56,710 --> 00:35:02,890 What were the, it said it was a mitigated that the county had done a mitigated negative deck. 469 00:35:03,110 --> 00:35:04,690 Do you know what the mitigation was? 470 00:35:07,270 --> 00:35:07,930 I don't. 471 00:35:08,070 --> 00:35:15,730 Barbara, the mitigated negative declaration is on file here in the office and so the mitigations 472 00:35:15,730 --> 00:35:20,690 and the monitoring plan associated with that would be in Antonio's office. 473 00:35:20,690 --> 00:35:36,950 We didn't obviously attach it here as a responsible agency, we really wouldn't get too involved in that other than if there's a specific mitigation that involves the pipeline alignment for our particular infrastructure. 474 00:35:37,550 --> 00:35:43,170 But it's really more between the developer and the developer basically and the county. 475 00:35:43,170 --> 00:35:53,190 I think in the past, we have included that checklist and the mitigations that we're 476 00:35:53,190 --> 00:35:58,790 done, you know, what are the CEQA areas that needed to be addressed in order to reduce 477 00:35:58,790 --> 00:35:59,810 the level of effects. 478 00:36:00,670 --> 00:36:01,950 We have- 479 00:36:01,950 --> 00:36:04,050 Are you talking about the initial study checklist? 480 00:36:04,310 --> 00:36:05,490 Is that what you want or you want- 481 00:36:05,490 --> 00:36:05,710 Well, indicated. 482 00:36:05,970 --> 00:36:06,550 You know how- 483 00:36:06,550 --> 00:36:14,490 The actual adopted monitoring plan for the- 484 00:36:14,490 --> 00:36:16,870 And then they've reduced it down to less than significant. 485 00:36:17,150 --> 00:36:18,830 And here's the little reason. 486 00:36:19,530 --> 00:36:19,810 Right. 487 00:36:20,110 --> 00:36:20,470 Right. 488 00:36:21,110 --> 00:36:24,290 And I mean, personally, I'd like to know if it was a culture 489 00:36:24,290 --> 00:36:27,770 resource or wildlife habitat or some kind of endangered 490 00:36:27,770 --> 00:36:30,810 species, I mean, what was it noise? 491 00:36:31,730 --> 00:36:34,370 And that, usually that checklist that Antonio has 492 00:36:34,370 --> 00:36:35,910 provides that level of detail. 493 00:36:36,390 --> 00:36:36,570 OK. 494 00:36:37,050 --> 00:36:40,950 Yeah, we can certainly include that in the future. 495 00:36:41,770 --> 00:36:44,110 It's been a while since we've had much 496 00:36:44,110 --> 00:36:52,590 development that had any significant environmental associated with it, but yes, we can certainly do that. 497 00:36:52,870 --> 00:36:53,530 Okay, thank you. 498 00:36:53,670 --> 00:36:56,090 Well, it was done in 2013. 499 00:36:56,870 --> 00:36:59,190 I see it was at NGDAQ here. 500 00:36:59,390 --> 00:37:08,410 There seems to be a conflict within the county as a lead agency up above it says mitigate NGDAQ, but in the findings it says NGDAQ. 501 00:37:08,410 --> 00:37:17,190 So again, the county's lead agency on any land use, we're just responding to the water sewer provision. 502 00:37:17,950 --> 00:37:28,570 Hence, why the utilities aren't providing an egg deck, because that's more of the planning department's responsibility to implement the NEC deck. 503 00:37:28,570 --> 00:37:35,070 If there is a mitigated deck deck, it's not clear to me because in the findings, it's talking about a negative declaration. 504 00:37:35,690 --> 00:37:43,650 That's a good distinction and in my experience, limited experiences, there's very rarely a negative declaration. 505 00:37:44,010 --> 00:37:46,870 It's either an exempt project or there's some mitigation. 506 00:37:47,330 --> 00:37:50,490 So there may have been an omission there, but that's a good point. 507 00:37:50,630 --> 00:37:53,050 We can find out in Antonio's office what he's got. 508 00:37:55,450 --> 00:38:03,070 I read the document so it was a couple of years ago, but it dealt with the mitigated negative decked out with traffic. 509 00:38:03,070 --> 00:38:05,450 So they had a turn lane going into it. 510 00:38:05,570 --> 00:38:10,050 It had some oak tree, so it was what the oak tree mitigation that went with it. 511 00:38:10,110 --> 00:38:14,150 There was some noise and it dealt with the typical construction noise between hours of operation. 512 00:38:14,450 --> 00:38:19,590 So there wasn't anything that was out of line, but it would be easy to just attach that document. 513 00:38:19,910 --> 00:38:28,290 So there's, you know, but from from looking at it, there wasn't, there's a lot of grading on the site, but there wasn't, there wasn't any big issues. 514 00:38:38,370 --> 00:38:44,370 You know public comment public comment is there any public comment this issue 515 00:38:48,250 --> 00:38:48,690 Okay, 516 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,180 you were going to bring up my construction water if you wanted to talk about that 517 00:38:58,300 --> 00:39:02,560 Yeah, I'd like to see us adopt a policy for construction water 518 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,620 I was checking with some of the Valley cities down there to find out what they're doing now 519 00:39:07,620 --> 00:39:16,780 and they basically have a provision where you can rent a two-inch meter to put on any fire hydrant in the sub-division 520 00:39:16,780 --> 00:39:25,200 and then they charge you by the usage but they have a flat fee and then it goes into a unit usage after that. 521 00:39:26,540 --> 00:39:34,060 I was talking to actually, for disclosure, I'm on the advisory committee for the habitat for humanity 522 00:39:34,060 --> 00:39:48,000 and so was Jeff, and she was concerned with the cost that they're expending for construction water and these homes are for people that are knee he and they're giving them to these people. 523 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:54,960 And so I'd like to see us address that either in strategic planning or something. 524 00:39:55,480 --> 00:40:10,800 In summary, what you described is our policy, they can come contractor to come to the front desk and they fill out a form, a rental form and they leave a deposit, I think it's $1,500 because it's basically the value of the meter. 525 00:40:11,420 --> 00:40:19,280 And then we have a daily charge for the meter rental, plus they pay their usage and the usage cost. 526 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:31,260 Last, actually had a conversation with Barbara about this, is significantly less than what a residential customer pays for water, partly because the infrastructure is kind of a one time use. 527 00:40:32,540 --> 00:40:39,240 But we do have that program and we can talk about it in strategic planning and kind of refine it. 528 00:40:39,460 --> 00:40:47,340 It has there are other features that we do incorporate like someone's just building a house and they know they're going to have a meter placed. 529 00:40:47,340 --> 00:41:07,040 We will allow them to go ahead, set a temporary meter, but it really just becomes the permanent meter, and they'll pay for their water use like inside the house as they're building their homes so they don't actually have to rent a big two inch hydrant meter, especially if the hydrant is way down the street, so we do have a few options available. 530 00:41:08,180 --> 00:41:12,880 And part of this I'm talking about is cost as Trinity was telling me what it cost for one unit 531 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,840 I couldn't believe it. I can't remember what it is today a bit because a few months ago when I toured it 532 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:22,340 I could not believe it compared to what I'm used to paying used to be playing paying down in the valley as a home builder 533 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:29,060 We mean by one unit one housing unit you mean renting the meter or it was 534 00:41:29,060 --> 00:41:34,260 Causing the inflection water to build one housing unit. Maybe the capacity fee that Trinity 535 00:41:34,260 --> 00:41:38,960 I think there's some confusion here because it's not a lot of money for 536 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:44,020 renting that meter, it's the deposit, which is to cover the cost of the meter. 537 00:41:44,140 --> 00:41:49,880 Because we've had occasions where I've been in cities where they were never 538 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,660 returned in their expensive meters. 539 00:41:51,740 --> 00:41:55,320 Since the deposit is larger to cover that replacement cost. 540 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,040 But when they turn it back in, they get the deposit back. 541 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:03,460 But the actual cost of using that construction water from a hydrant is actually 542 00:42:03,460 --> 00:42:04,560 pretty low, typically. 543 00:42:05,140 --> 00:42:05,340 Okay. 544 00:42:05,580 --> 00:42:12,500 So I'm a little confused why this one particular individual had a high, had a tap for humanity. 545 00:42:12,700 --> 00:42:12,760 Yeah. 546 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,140 I think hers was set up because she was setting up a house meter. 547 00:42:16,420 --> 00:42:20,480 So then it also included the basic monthly charge and had to do her with it. 548 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,200 And when you're trying to pressure test your water line and wash some of the things out. 549 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:29,600 So they were looking at is there a way to get a meter set like you were talking about and 550 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,420 And then not have all the base charges and everything else during a time period of construction. 551 00:42:33,660 --> 00:42:48,760 Yeah, for a six month, I'm going off of our policy now so I believe it's a six month sort of grace period to where you can get this temporary meter and I'm looking at Steve, he's kind of nodding, so I think I'm being accurate. 552 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:57,880 And then it will initiate base charges so if you're construction, you're taking a year and a half to build your dream home, you're gonna have a time there. 553 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:06,740 But I think we should talk about it because I think I have heard this from habitat for humanity before and we need to kind of address it. 554 00:43:06,740 --> 00:43:11,860 Maybe you could arrange a meeting with you and we could bring her in here and talk to her. 555 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:16,820 Yeah, I think the part of it's a time it takes to build one of these homes because a lot of their labor is volunteer. 556 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,280 I mean, they have doctors from the hospital. 557 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:25,360 They're sheet rocking and various things, you know, and so then I'm building a home and the same time a home builder would build it. 558 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:33,840 So part of it is maybe it maybe it's a provision for low income housing or something like that or I think this is good for 559 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,460 Policy examination we can take it offline 560 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:44,180 Fantastic. Hey, bun. Yes. I got something to do. Um, those are duplexes out there too. Um, was she hookin' up? 561 00:43:44,340 --> 00:43:48,220 I don't remember. Was she hookin' up both of them? Was she getting rental meters on both of them? 562 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,960 You know, I have it's been like six months since I toured it and I was a while back. 563 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:55,640 I'm not sure. 564 00:43:56,500 --> 00:44:00,740 Because they're building basically two units, one building, good point. 565 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:09,180 And what we've done, we've done this in the ridges and a few others is they'll pay for a temporary meter and then they'll move it around from lot to lot. 566 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:14,320 That's what we did when I said when I was building homes but this is a totally different situation. 567 00:44:15,100 --> 00:44:16,720 Just because it's such a small volume. 568 00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:19,960 I suggest we put, we agendaize this. 569 00:44:20,260 --> 00:44:23,460 It's a good discussion, it's not on this agenda. 570 00:44:24,020 --> 00:44:29,280 And before we go down the road and because, and I had called Eric with some other questions, 571 00:44:29,580 --> 00:44:35,080 darn good, good cheap water with this meter and perhaps we need to discuss that as well. 572 00:44:35,380 --> 00:44:42,460 So I don't know if it's our strategic plan, there's also another issue about being able to 573 00:44:42,460 --> 00:44:46,400 have a tier for low income like Calvary's house. 574 00:44:46,700 --> 00:44:49,280 So it's a larger discussion we can agenda. 575 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,840 OK, we'll do that, and then if we could bring her in and have a meeting with you, 576 00:44:52,980 --> 00:44:56,140 Eric can talk about what her experiences are. 577 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:58,040 Thank you. 578 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:08,300 So, where are we on here? Suggested motion. Okay, I'll do it. I move to adopt the 579 00:45:08,300 --> 00:45:11,940 sequa notice of determination and approve the attached agreement regarding 580 00:45:11,940 --> 00:45:16,400 construction and transfer of water, main line extension to serve the Eagle Ridge 581 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:22,140 development phase one Edward L. and Carla J. Brown and Christie S. Brown and 582 00:45:22,140 --> 00:45:26,580 authorize the general manager to sign all necessary documents. I'll second that. 583 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:33,060 It's been regularly moved and seconded that we adopt regular business number five 584 00:45:33,060 --> 00:45:37,280 sequence notice of determination and agreement regarding construction and transfer of water 585 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:42,600 and sewer mainline extensions to serve the Eagle Ridge development phase one for Edward L 586 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,180 and Carla J. Brown and Christie S. Brown. 587 00:45:47,230 --> 00:45:49,090 All those in favor signify by saying aye. 588 00:45:49,090 --> 00:45:49,690 Hi. 589 00:45:50,330 --> 00:45:52,790 Is that loud? 590 00:45:54,870 --> 00:45:57,350 Next is Budget Status and Financial Report. 591 00:46:01,910 --> 00:46:03,210 Good evening again. 592 00:46:03,650 --> 00:46:04,410 Um, afternoon. 593 00:46:04,950 --> 00:46:09,530 Give me just a minute here to get our new technology here up and running. 594 00:46:10,190 --> 00:46:10,890 That 595 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:42,780 one in particular. 596 00:46:42,980 --> 00:46:43,540 Often running. 597 00:46:44,460 --> 00:46:52,100 So, let me preface this by saying, um, since I learned my lesson from the consent agenda. 598 00:46:52,100 --> 00:47:02,020 But this will be the last time you see this format you see this, three months from now, 599 00:47:02,180 --> 00:47:04,700 this is going to look different, some way, somehow. 600 00:47:06,220 --> 00:47:11,320 And I'm so optimistic it's been a lot of work right now. 601 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:17,180 There's a lot of moving parts, but this new software is just such a tremendous improvement. 602 00:47:17,180 --> 00:47:22,180 And our customers are going to see it, and you all are going to see it, and we're seeing it too. 603 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:28,920 So that said, and Jeff, I know this is kind of your first time with the quarterly financials. 604 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:34,060 So please feel free to stop me any time, and even some of you board members may not remember it 605 00:47:34,060 --> 00:47:35,660 when it comes out every three months. 606 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:40,560 But this really started about two or three strategic plans back. 607 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:45,280 There was a healthy discussion as to what kind of reports should we be getting. 608 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:50,740 our general manager at that time was rightfully so very concerned about budget 609 00:47:50,740 --> 00:47:58,140 actual. You know, as a governmental organization, if we you all adopt a budget, you know, we 610 00:47:58,140 --> 00:48:02,620 need to follow that budget. And that's really, you know, kind of our gauge to what we're 611 00:48:02,620 --> 00:48:07,220 doing. Obviously, from a day-to-day operation, it's important to keep the water running, but 612 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:13,640 this is really kind of what we did to. So we landed on this budget status report. And it 613 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:18,840 It took this form and that's kind of where we led with it and we've been doing it the 614 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,200 same way for a while now. 615 00:48:20,820 --> 00:48:23,760 The second part of this, you have two reports in your package. 616 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,000 The first one's really the budget status report. 617 00:48:26,460 --> 00:48:32,160 The second one is much more a audit financial statement style report. 618 00:48:32,820 --> 00:48:39,620 And again, previous board members had more of a business or finance background and really 619 00:48:39,620 --> 00:48:40,280 wanted that. 620 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:50,060 Whereas most agencies that stand, you'll audit when you get that style, but you know, I felt I could provide that and satisfy more people, more users. 621 00:48:50,580 --> 00:48:58,700 We were also doing it monthly and that was a lot of work and a lot of, you know, what's the board's role? Do they need it monthly? 622 00:48:59,500 --> 00:49:06,640 Do you need it for your policymaking? Do you need it to oversight for us? And so the board landed on this quarterly report. 623 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,660 So I'm going to go ahead and give you this. 624 00:49:08,820 --> 00:49:15,820 When that said, I fully expect the next one to be different, and it's going to look different, feel different, but we'll have more options. 625 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,000 We may go to multiple reports instead of these just two. 626 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:19,840 We may need less. 627 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:21,060 I don't know. 628 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,080 We'll just kind of see how it goes with that. 629 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:33,860 So I'll go ahead and go through this one, and I will remind the board, other than Jeff, that this is identical to what we have been doing for a number of years now. 630 00:49:33,860 --> 00:49:38,780 So to start with, I kind of summarized it again. 631 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,920 We've prepared this budget status report and financial report for 632 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,320 the second quarter ending December 31, 2018. 633 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:51,400 The budget status report highlights the district's actual performance against budget. 634 00:49:51,980 --> 00:49:55,500 And the financial report includes a statement of net position, 635 00:49:55,740 --> 00:49:58,920 a statement of revenues, expenses, and changes in position. 636 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,160 And a statement of cash flows. 637 00:50:02,220 --> 00:50:11,820 So what I have on the screen here in your packet, it's actually two separate pages, one for water and one for sewer, two tables and there's some graphs below it. 638 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:18,120 So for purposes of our discussion, I combine those so we can show them side by side on here. 639 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:26,880 The budget status report provides information relative to both water and sewer funds. 640 00:50:27,380 --> 00:50:34,660 In this case, you can see the highlighted items up here, revenue-succeeded budget by $299,000 in the water fund. 641 00:50:35,180 --> 00:50:38,460 And we're below budget by $136,000 in the sewer fund. 642 00:50:39,300 --> 00:50:45,400 Operational expenditures were under budget by $209,000 and $91,000 for the water and 643 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:53,880 funds respectively. The water fund expended $1.9 million for capital projects and $153,000 for debt 644 00:50:53,880 --> 00:51:02,160 principal payments. The sewer fund expended $557,000 for capital projects and $98,000 for debt 645 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:09,260 principal payments. I'll jump ahead. We can always come back. Really, what I want to point out here is 646 00:51:09,820 --> 00:51:12,300 I just had a quick question on that page. 647 00:51:13,020 --> 00:51:17,020 The, your little chart at the bottom where it says percent of capital assets depreciated 648 00:51:17,020 --> 00:51:24,580 is, you know, going a larger amount of, is that because we're, is that just a function 649 00:51:24,580 --> 00:51:28,320 of the fact that we have older infrastructure, that there's less being depreciated or 650 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:28,720 what? 651 00:51:29,300 --> 00:51:29,480 Yeah. 652 00:51:30,540 --> 00:51:35,380 And, and again, I don't refer those charts a lot, I don't include them here, but those 653 00:51:35,380 --> 00:51:42,700 or what, typically in a for-profit business, our key ratio indexes, and again we had one 654 00:51:42,700 --> 00:51:47,940 board member, those were the kind of ones they really wanted to see, and you can see 655 00:51:47,940 --> 00:51:53,320 the trend on there, some of them, our cash position has been improving, our capital assets 656 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:59,200 are aging, you know, our infrastructure, basically as we invest and reinvest, that's kind of 657 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:00,400 what those graphs show. 658 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,340 So there hasn't been anything in those graphs, I say, well, look, I really need to show 659 00:52:04,340 --> 00:52:08,760 You guys, these graphs right now, but that's what it refers to. 660 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:14,260 All right, so then the last slide again, it's just two slides short and sweet and we can 661 00:52:14,260 --> 00:52:18,420 talk about whatever we need to, but this is kind of the listing of what I was referring 662 00:52:18,420 --> 00:52:21,100 to other of the audit style financial reports. 663 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,800 There's essentially three main statements. 664 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:29,600 The terminology is very much government-oriented statement in that position in a real, you know, 665 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:34,480 the private sector think balance sheet, the second one statement of revenues, expenses, 666 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:39,720 and changes in net position. That's really an income statement, and then the last one statements 667 00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:44,580 of cash flow is pretty much what it says. So if you look at those financials, and again, 668 00:52:44,900 --> 00:52:49,920 all the numbers are for the first six months of the fiscal year. The first quarter financials 669 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:57,740 noted an increase of 1.5 million in cash, a decrease in intergovernmental receivables of 800,000, 670 00:52:57,740 --> 00:53:06,260 a decrease in prepaid expenses of $498,000 and a decrease in advances from the sewer fund of $1.3 million. 671 00:53:07,140 --> 00:53:14,840 The net income from operations after depreciation was $1.4 million with a net income of $3 million before depreciation. 672 00:53:15,540 --> 00:53:21,940 Net non-operating revenue was $576,000 and capital revenue was $864,000. 673 00:53:22,780 --> 00:53:31,120 Now, that said, I guess, kind of my, I feel my role or my input to the board, my summary 674 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:35,620 of the board is that we have an adopted budget for fiscal year 19, we have an adopted 675 00:53:35,620 --> 00:53:41,800 budget for fiscal year 20, your ad, our GM has referred several times, the part of strategic 676 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:47,080 planning will be to analyze that budget, review it, and look at next year's budget for sure. 677 00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:53,780 But I really kind of see my role to point out to the board that when I look at this and I say we're 4% 678 00:53:54,500 --> 00:53:55,020 basically 679 00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:03,060 Overrevenue is over budget for operation revenue and we're under budget by 4% to mean for six months time 680 00:54:03,060 --> 00:54:03,800 We're right on track 681 00:54:04,540 --> 00:54:07,400 So from my perspective and my responsibilities 682 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:13,520 I really feel that that the budget we have in place is still relevant. It's still on track 683 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,940 I don't see any significant changes that I'm recommend at this time. 684 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:24,040 We're obviously still a little prospective, as far as what's going to project between now and the end of the year. 685 00:54:24,620 --> 00:54:29,280 Whether like we had the last week or two kind of affects that as well as y'all are aware of. 686 00:54:29,580 --> 00:54:35,340 But I think for most of you, you've seen my quarterly reports before, you know what went into the budget here. 687 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:39,720 So I'm happy to answer any questions you might have. 688 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,120 Anybody have any questions? 689 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:44,200 Steve? 690 00:54:45,940 --> 00:54:46,460 Okay. 691 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:48,200 Any comments from the public? 692 00:54:51,570 --> 00:54:52,050 Okay. 693 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:55,920 Next, Steve. 694 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:56,620 Awesome. 695 00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:57,220 Thank you. 696 00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,320 You shouldn't change the format, Steve. 697 00:55:00,060 --> 00:55:00,200 Yeah. 698 00:55:02,180 --> 00:55:02,980 Ron loves it. 699 00:55:03,460 --> 00:55:04,640 Well, I like the results. 700 00:55:05,700 --> 00:55:08,360 To me, the results are more important than the format. 701 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,420 I think it does depict the situation. 702 00:55:10,420 --> 00:55:13,180 But, you know, it definitely is a good snapshot. 703 00:55:13,180 --> 00:55:15,940 I get summary for the board and I feel comfortable 704 00:55:15,940 --> 00:55:17,920 and in that's what's really going on. 705 00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:21,240 I'm going to start the presentation for the next item. 706 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,040 It's on, it's okay with that, right? 707 00:55:25,620 --> 00:55:28,360 You need a new motion for this one to accept the vote. 708 00:55:28,780 --> 00:55:29,900 Yeah, is there a motion? 709 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,000 I move that we accept and file this report. 710 00:55:32,500 --> 00:55:33,160 I'll second that. 711 00:55:33,460 --> 00:55:34,860 It's been ready to move in seconded 712 00:55:34,860 --> 00:55:37,720 that we accept this report as filed. 713 00:55:39,660 --> 00:55:40,620 Red presented. 714 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,480 All those in favor, signify by saying aye. 715 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:46,120 Aye. 716 00:55:47,580 --> 00:55:48,500 That's unanimous. 717 00:55:50,020 --> 00:55:50,940 Thank you, Steve. 718 00:55:51,240 --> 00:55:51,600 Thank you. 719 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:52,380 Thank you, Steve. 720 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:53,020 Very nice. 721 00:56:01,580 --> 00:56:02,920 Carol's not even here for this. 722 00:56:03,300 --> 00:56:05,460 I was waiting for Carol to be here. 723 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,020 Okay, let's go into staff reports. 724 00:56:10,580 --> 00:56:14,540 So while staff is preparing the presentation, 725 00:56:14,540 --> 00:56:27,060 Just for your board's sake, the winter storms have been quite challenging for staff to continue to provide services during very extreme events. 726 00:56:27,860 --> 00:56:42,420 I wanted to do a little more for this presentation than just go through the typical staff reports you've seen in the past that are just an oral recitation or summary of what's going on. 727 00:56:42,420 --> 00:56:45,220 and I actually wanted you to see some images 728 00:56:45,220 --> 00:56:46,860 because they're so powerful. 729 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:52,560 So to that end, I called Don and said, 730 00:56:52,700 --> 00:56:54,000 Don, I want some information. 731 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,680 And on quickly provided that information, 732 00:56:57,060 --> 00:56:58,220 I thought it was very good. 733 00:56:58,900 --> 00:57:03,020 And then I worked with Lisa to pull this presentation together. 734 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:04,560 It's not going to take much time, 735 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,220 but I think this presentation is going to be 736 00:57:08,220 --> 00:57:09,840 very informative for your board. 737 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:30,200 I have some serious concerns about what we're doing out there during these types of events and I think it really paints a picture that I think is going to eliminate and educate our discussion during strategic planning with so with that I'm going to hand it over to our operations manager to walk through this presentation. 738 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:30,900 Okay. 739 00:57:31,460 --> 00:57:32,080 Thank you. 740 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:32,740 Dawn? 741 00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:33,480 Hello. 742 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:34,100 Thank you. 743 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:43,220 I just got to say, you know, I've many have heard me say this before and I'll just say 744 00:57:43,220 --> 00:57:43,540 it here. 745 00:57:43,940 --> 00:57:45,600 I really just love working here. 746 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:46,380 This is a challenge. 747 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:47,360 It's stimulating. 748 00:57:47,940 --> 00:57:49,940 And this weekend was just that. 749 00:57:50,340 --> 00:57:52,600 This past week has been very challenging. 750 00:57:52,820 --> 00:57:53,320 Very stimulating. 751 00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:58,040 Those of you who know me, you know I coach football or with an assistant coach football for 752 00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:02,860 30 years and at the end of that, each one of those years, you hope you're playing a team 753 00:58:02,860 --> 00:58:06,860 like central Catholic and the finals and we're coming to work here every day, it's like 754 00:58:06,860 --> 00:58:08,200 you're in young for central Catholic. 755 00:58:10,780 --> 00:58:15,380 I just love this so to speak. 756 00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:25,240 What has happened here the last few days is not new, it has happened many times over the 757 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:25,600 years. 758 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:35,500 Some of the faces of these pictures are new, the fact that we might actually be able to bring this to you in this format is new, but you've heard me up here before talking about such events. 759 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:46,340 So, this was one, and I wanted a presentation, and Lisa was gracious enough to give me a lot of support, but I'll help. 760 00:58:47,580 --> 00:58:52,000 In the midst of all of this chaos, I'm suddenly talking to my superintendents and 761 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,500 informants asking for all the pictures and information and so they're a little 762 00:58:55,500 --> 00:58:59,140 bit frustrated with me because they got a shovel and now somehow they want me 763 00:58:59,140 --> 00:59:09,960 to go get a picture. They did what they could. So we go. So first and foremost starting 764 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:15,040 out the biggest impact seemingly are to our ditches, our raw water system. 765 00:59:17,340 --> 00:59:17,820 This 766 00:59:17,820 --> 00:59:21,600 number of trees taken down in all those ditches, section 4, 767 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,800 Eureka, Solesbyville, Upper Columbia, the Grayson back, the trees, 768 00:59:25,620 --> 00:59:29,780 anyways, was the shaw's flat with 20, or the grand total of 73, 769 00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,840 but I'm interested that that number's growing as we speak. 770 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:39,180 Don, were those typically live oaks that, or, you know, 771 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,420 a cross section, depending on what elevation you're talking about, 772 00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:44,120 up above and twang hard, it's more, 773 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,800 We're paying fines that the download is certainly this is the oaks 774 00:59:49,500 --> 00:59:53,940 Down at the bottom talks about multiple call outs over time worked in the past week on 775 00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:59,820 Average you know Eric can you drive I drive him nuts when I ask this question about how much you walk per day 776 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:28,580 And, you know, he just threw out that number and just an average of nine to 12 miles of walking. And that's not a leisurely walk. Just no, that's not a leisurely walk. And you'll see what I mean by that. So in that picture, you can see that tree down the snow and debris building up behind that tree, preventing the water from coming through coming down. So there's a little glimpse of what it's like to try to remove that snow out of the ditch. 777 01:00:28,580 --> 01:00:34,720 That's Tyler Hock at he is actually in our distribution department not in our raw water 778 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:40,440 department but when the college is there you got a response and he was willing to go 779 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,260 out there and work and work hard he did. 780 01:00:43,140 --> 01:00:45,860 That's a section 4 ditch you know they're above 20 hour. 781 01:00:49,620 --> 01:00:54,380 This is all the way down the Roaches ditch you know downstream of the 12 meter plant where 782 01:00:54,380 --> 01:00:57,520 you'll see oaks that was down in the ditch. 783 01:01:00,230 --> 01:01:01,650 They can't handle the snow. 784 01:01:01,910 --> 01:01:02,450 Now they can't. 785 01:01:02,450 --> 01:01:06,430 The more trees of the road is ditched with other trees and it's not a big branch. 786 01:01:06,830 --> 01:01:10,910 All that has to get mucked out of there because you've got to hike in there with chain 787 01:01:10,910 --> 01:01:16,190 saws and what in hand tools, cut these trees out of the ditch and get them up on the bank. 788 01:01:16,870 --> 01:01:21,690 There's not a lot of, there's no way to get a piece of equipment, like a truck with a 789 01:01:21,690 --> 01:01:23,270 wind or anything like that in most cases. 790 01:01:23,570 --> 01:01:26,070 This is just hike in there, get it done. 791 01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:34,040 This is the lower soul we build ditch and it took me a little while I had to ask Eric what exact am I looking at here so 792 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:36,140 So that's a piece of 793 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,820 Gunite ditch there, and it looks like a hole 794 01:01:41,540 --> 01:01:46,260 Here and I thought when make the water was eroding this out and Eric said no, no, but you can't see 795 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,600 Is this a tree was here and it uprooted? 796 01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,120 It's laying over here in the deal 797 01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:56,420 So we're got to go back as soon as we can and get that that section of 798 01:01:57,020 --> 01:02:01,260 Ditch and they got night repaired look it didn't take out the whole darn ditch 799 01:02:01,260 --> 01:02:06,980 there then yes we are without a different problem with our hand I don't 800 01:02:06,980 --> 01:02:16,160 believe in luck but yes luck is we're opportunity and preparation come 801 01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:22,640 together there you go I don't think it was a date that one 802 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,380 Sounds like a football day to 1985 or something. 803 01:02:29,900 --> 01:02:35,890 Eureka Ditch and Twain Art rose and over and then cleaned up. 804 01:02:36,110 --> 01:02:38,110 Looks like a little before and after. 805 01:02:41,450 --> 01:02:43,270 Tyler again walking in the ditch. 806 01:02:43,690 --> 01:02:45,250 This sort of work, you know, it's hard. 807 01:02:45,510 --> 01:02:47,270 It's hard for me to explain honestly. 808 01:02:47,490 --> 01:02:49,270 This is one of the few things I just have never done. 809 01:02:49,410 --> 01:02:52,970 I've never had the opportunity to luxury to actually do this sort of work here. 810 01:02:54,290 --> 01:02:57,850 And I've had to explain to me over and over how it works. 811 01:02:57,850 --> 01:03:02,310 But until you really get there and see this in hand, first hand, you probably don't get the idea. 812 01:03:02,570 --> 01:03:07,090 But by hook or by hook, you've got to use the water behind, get the water to you behind you. 813 01:03:08,730 --> 01:03:12,890 Physically shovel this snow and ice out of a ditch where you can. 814 01:03:13,390 --> 01:03:17,090 Chop up, get the water, and then multiply it, and then try and walk it down. 815 01:03:18,530 --> 01:03:24,410 I think in this picture here, what you see is the water got so high that it overtops the burn. 816 01:03:24,410 --> 01:03:31,090 And they used that to their advantage to try and spill some water and then do some work-down 817 01:03:31,090 --> 01:03:31,470 stream. 818 01:03:38,210 --> 01:03:41,190 Or pictures, Eureka, Twainhart, Float and Snow. 819 01:03:46,530 --> 01:03:49,930 So that was sort of the impacts to the ditch crew. 820 01:03:51,230 --> 01:03:55,790 To the tree of water crew, you know, we experienced power outages all over the place. 821 01:03:55,970 --> 01:04:01,730 Sonora, Columbia, Big Hill, Wall, and Ponderosa was probably the worst hit. 822 01:04:01,730 --> 01:04:07,750 But when we start losing power way down in Sonora and all the way up to Big Hill Unclip, 823 01:04:08,090 --> 01:04:11,990 we really stretch all of our resources, generators, just thin. 824 01:04:13,270 --> 01:04:20,030 But so not only do we lose power in a lot of cases, we also lost our SCADA issue this time. 825 01:04:20,950 --> 01:04:26,470 And you know, we rely on our SCADA system to start and stop pumps and controls, right? 826 01:04:26,470 --> 01:04:33,250 So in some cases tanks stopped filling and other cases tanks continued to fill when they didn't need to fill. 827 01:04:33,750 --> 01:04:43,750 So we have to deploy all our people all over the place just to go put eyes on these tanks and these pump stations, lift stations, things to make sure things running properly. 828 01:04:44,370 --> 01:04:48,190 In a lot of cases we just didn't have enough generators so we had to go rent three generators. 829 01:04:48,470 --> 01:04:51,430 This happens to be hours and we just bought this one this year. 830 01:04:51,430 --> 01:04:57,030 But we had to go rent three others to deploy everywhere to make these work. 831 01:04:57,530 --> 01:05:02,050 This picture is in Can you view street road in Ponderosa Hills. 832 01:05:02,050 --> 01:05:07,810 It's about a mile or so from Twalmy Road to this spot which we had to plow just to get 833 01:05:07,810 --> 01:05:08,250 here. 834 01:05:08,790 --> 01:05:14,550 This, Pug station feeds the Rainbow Reservoir on top of the hill which feeds Mule or subdivision 835 01:05:14,550 --> 01:05:15,930 which also didn't have power. 836 01:05:16,970 --> 01:05:20,730 So lots of people out of water because it's like a packed generation. 837 01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:32,140 The distribution team, their impacts are a little bit different, a little bit delayed. 838 01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:37,080 You know, after the big snow then came and came in the freeze, right? 839 01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:42,520 And different customers had different problems with their household plumbing and freezing. 840 01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,340 You have them to turn off and turn on water for repairs. 841 01:05:45,340 --> 01:05:52,600 They did help the treated water guys checking out their tanks and manually going to places 842 01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:57,680 and controlling valve or ordinarily use power or scan it to do so the distribution team 843 01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:58,900 really chipped in and helped out. 844 01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:06,880 One of those items up there is a standpipe was hit by a car or whatever and was blown water 845 01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:07,540 all over the place. 846 01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,460 Construction maintenance crews were very instrumental. 847 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,660 They kind of have to stop doing everything they're doing to assist. 848 01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,380 They did an awful lot of plowing for us. 849 01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,220 I asked Dennis to give me a number of miles after the fact 850 01:06:22,220 --> 01:06:24,340 and he laughed at me and says, a lot, not a year. 851 01:06:25,620 --> 01:06:27,860 I could go out there and redrive and you'd tell me 852 01:06:27,860 --> 01:06:29,320 how many miles I was, that's a lot. 853 01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,440 But it's a couple of hundred miles in a plowing. 854 01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,540 And what you're seeing here is, so this is my picture. 855 01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:38,560 I actually took this picture. 856 01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,360 I had to go up there somewhere in this repair 857 01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:42,820 of that status station at that tank. 858 01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,280 And I just knew I was gonna have to 859 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:52,720 It was about a three-quarter mile walk from the road to that tank, and I just knew I was going to have to walk that two-foot of snow, and I got there and it was plowed for me, so it's pretty nice. 860 01:06:55,820 --> 01:07:00,360 Not to mention the right in the middle of this, we had a six-inch mainline break into wall. 861 01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,460 I mean, the worst of the weather that the crews had to respond to. 862 01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:07,120 They had to stop doing what they were doing and go deal with this mainline break. 863 01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:12,380 25 facilities, they plowed. 864 01:07:12,380 --> 01:07:14,300 I would like to ask a quick question. 865 01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:15,060 Hey, Don. 866 01:07:15,460 --> 01:07:23,700 So, Don, in these low elevation snows that we have when a line breaks like that, is it 867 01:07:23,700 --> 01:07:25,900 because it freezes and it's underground? 868 01:07:26,420 --> 01:07:26,920 Or coincidence? 869 01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:27,920 It's just coincidence. 870 01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:32,420 It's just one of the 300 we're going to have each year, happen to be adjourned on the storm. 871 01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:34,300 I have to do it the weather. 872 01:07:34,580 --> 01:07:35,040 Excuse me. 873 01:07:35,740 --> 01:07:36,520 Thank you. 874 01:07:36,820 --> 01:07:37,180 Thank you. 875 01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:38,360 That answer my question. 876 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:38,880 Okay. 877 01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:42,000 Okay. Good question. Two questions. One. 878 01:07:42,700 --> 01:07:46,700 I think I would have failed to mention is they were instrumental in keeping all of those 879 01:07:46,700 --> 01:07:52,180 diesel generators fueled, moving them around from spot to spot, you know, that's what 880 01:07:52,180 --> 01:07:58,020 they kind of drop what they're doing and help us out in that regard. And while I'm on generators, 881 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:04,240 I'll just mention this. Why don't you have generators everywhere? Well, because, you know, we have 882 01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:10,720 so many facilities, dozens and dozens of facilities that were near some sort of power. 883 01:08:12,180 --> 01:08:16,520 But one generator we do have, up in the ponderosa system, I'm pointing at the confidence 884 01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:19,380 bit, up in the ponderosa system, we do have a generator at the ponderosa. 885 01:08:19,500 --> 01:08:20,720 I'm just going to give you a little story about this one. 886 01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:21,680 This generator. 887 01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:23,200 Well, I didn't know this, tell you the other day. 888 01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:25,320 So it failed on us. 889 01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:29,240 We lost power, crews went up to go start this generator so we could run the plant. 890 01:08:30,100 --> 01:08:34,140 Not knowing we didn't have water in the ditch anyway, but at the time, we're just going 891 01:08:34,140 --> 01:08:37,560 to fire this generator? Well, the generator blew up. The motor on the generator blew up. Well, 892 01:08:38,940 --> 01:08:43,260 frustrating, right? We do weekly and monthly checks on these generators to make sure they run 893 01:08:43,260 --> 01:08:46,820 where we need them. Of course, when you need them, this thing's gonna blow up. So, as I was asking, 894 01:08:46,940 --> 01:08:50,280 well, what's the problem with the generators? Well, the problem, Don, is that's of 1970 something 895 01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:54,900 generate that we wasn't good enough for a sewer list station in the 80s or 90s. And so, we moved up 896 01:08:54,900 --> 01:09:00,960 to Ponderosa Hills, and we bought that system. I said, thanks for the... Anyway, so that's kind of 897 01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:03,860 the disgruntled dawn generator discussion. 898 01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:08,860 So what is a typical generator cost? 899 01:09:09,580 --> 01:09:10,380 A lot. 900 01:09:12,480 --> 01:09:14,520 It depends on the song. 901 01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:18,960 $30,000 portable one, and that's not that's an inexpensive $30,000. 902 01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:23,380 The gentleman that was speaking in the beginning to get a generator that would operate 903 01:09:23,380 --> 01:09:28,580 his facility for those 12 units, what size generator approximately and what cost would that be? 904 01:09:28,580 --> 01:09:36,020 It would probably be about 25 to 30,000, not including the installation, and that includes the transfer switch and everything. 905 01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:43,160 Those diesel generators like that that are trailer mounted, they're $35 to $50,000. 906 01:09:44,620 --> 01:09:48,840 And that would be one of dozens of facilities, okay. 907 01:09:52,020 --> 01:10:09,920 So part of the problem too I think with that one that that gentleman was talking about was that that's a pretty pretty good lift for that pump station. I mean, and when you only have 12 people up there overcome 115 pounds of pressure to get to that. 908 01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:16,780 And it's a single phase or a poorly designed system that we inherited somehow. 909 01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:22,540 I don't know how we inherited what we did and we've been fighting it literally every year since. 910 01:10:25,220 --> 01:10:29,600 So, you know, we know all about them, we know it's frustrating. 911 01:10:30,300 --> 01:10:37,060 Back when it was a functioning dentist office and that thing would go down in July, you know, it's frustrating. 912 01:10:37,060 --> 01:10:38,780 And we understand it's frustrating to those customers. 913 01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:45,080 But the TWSSOP answers many of these questions. 914 01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:47,680 And so we're just hoping and having 915 01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,780 hoping for years and years when you get to a point 916 01:10:49,780 --> 01:10:52,320 in this TWSSOP, we can start answering some of these questions 917 01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:53,400 appropriately. 918 01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:56,340 You're using gravity to the best we can, 919 01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:58,240 but in Cedar Rocks, one of them. 920 01:11:00,610 --> 01:11:03,630 Where we've looked at some things like with that sewer line, 921 01:11:03,870 --> 01:11:05,850 that's coming down from Tweenheart, 922 01:11:05,850 --> 01:11:11,290 that we may have to do a district, you know, around there where everybody contributes 923 01:11:11,290 --> 01:11:17,070 to help solve their problem, you know, I'm wondering if some of these smaller neighborhoods 924 01:11:17,070 --> 01:11:21,570 would be willing to put some sort of service district in place to solve their problem. 925 01:11:23,030 --> 01:11:23,950 That's a good question. 926 01:11:24,190 --> 01:11:24,790 That's a good question. 927 01:11:27,330 --> 01:11:33,370 So another part of our service that was impact was our collection system, that list station 928 01:11:33,370 --> 01:11:39,310 is the Apple Valley list station and it seems to be when we have severe weather, this list 929 01:11:39,310 --> 01:11:47,390 station gets impacted. Whoever's taken this picture's back is near Chicken Creek and 930 01:11:47,390 --> 01:11:57,240 it swells. And over the years, you can see the water line. The list station just goes underwater. 931 01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:04,560 And so we have a plan to get it repaired but it lost power. It's back up 932 01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:11,360 Generator we put a new generator in there last year. It failed another used one. So we had to rent a generator bring it there 933 01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:16,820 Of course, we had to plow our way there. It looks flat, but that's a pretty steep driveway from where they are up to 934 01:12:17,440 --> 01:12:19,420 Whatever drive that is up there. So 935 01:12:20,740 --> 01:12:21,220 Yeah 936 01:12:21,220 --> 01:12:25,760 that. So your collection boys were busy as well out all hours the night checking 937 01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:29,820 list stations because we had no power, didn't have power everywhere and checking 938 01:12:29,820 --> 01:12:34,160 list stations. I'll put them down. You know what they can make sure and and the 939 01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:38,720 greatest bullet right that the collection system did not experience any storm related 940 01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:46,060 SSOs or any SSOs period storm related not. So that was good everyone know what that 941 01:12:46,060 --> 01:12:52,860 is? Sentry sewer overflow. Which water treatment plant? Now that's an unusual 942 01:12:52,860 --> 01:12:58,460 picture for them for sure. Three to four or five inches of snow. They weathered 943 01:12:58,460 --> 01:13:06,860 the storm pretty well. Their inflows did double. It's typically 1.2, maybe 1.4 or 944 01:13:06,860 --> 01:13:11,320 five this time of year, but it's it's well the 2.8 which the plant handled pretty 945 01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:16,860 well considering we spent three or four hundred thousand dollars in the last few years on improving 946 01:13:16,860 --> 01:13:21,020 how draw-action the plants of it performed pretty well. The twenty-hour waste-large 947 01:13:21,020 --> 01:13:29,140 driven plant also lost power and it flows doubled as well. But with some work, people stand 948 01:13:29,140 --> 01:13:33,300 being up the plant, the twenty-hour plant where we're able to keep that plant going along pretty 949 01:13:33,300 --> 01:13:33,560 well. 950 01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:42,280 We're left in Portis Reservoir is doing pretty good. I have a quick one. I wish the gentleman 951 01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:46,840 someone that was here could have stayed for this because it's really informative. 952 01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:50,340 I mean, what he has is a very common problem. 953 01:13:50,940 --> 01:13:53,640 And when the electricity goes out all over the county, 954 01:13:55,380 --> 01:14:00,800 well, it makes me glad I have my landline phone, you know, because then I can call and see if people are okay. 955 01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:07,660 And so it is, it's a, like I said, when it's low level snow, we have problems we never anticipated. 956 01:14:07,660 --> 01:14:08,260 Right. 957 01:14:09,140 --> 01:14:09,320 Right. 958 01:14:10,440 --> 01:14:10,640 Gone. 959 01:14:11,700 --> 01:14:23,300 On, could you tell the board and everyone else, you mentioned the Twainheart sewer plant. 960 01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:35,850 And could you please tell us how old it is, be where it's located, and why you kind of 961 01:14:35,850 --> 01:14:41,250 it over. You made it sound like it was a big deal but to have some guys were gals up there 962 01:14:41,250 --> 01:14:46,770 trying to keep that thing operating. I don't know how in the world they even got there. 963 01:14:48,190 --> 01:14:51,330 How the plant got there? Well I don't want to go there. 964 01:14:53,070 --> 01:14:58,470 I'm talking about the crew to be able to keep the thing running. Right it's both difficult. 965 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:24,120 This isn't new. I don't know, eight years ago, we didn't have flowers. Today, we have two of our own flowers. Eight years ago, we would just simply walk in. We'd drive as far as chain up all four tires, drive as far as you can, put in five gallon buckets, all the parts and tools you need and walk the rest of the way to that plant because you got to do something. The plant's not running. You can't, you have to respond. 966 01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:31,460 but that's a steep, nasty dirt road. Chuck holes, I don't know. And then it's going to have 967 01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:38,560 three feet of snow or better on it. Hey, man. Where is it? It's a twain heart. I mean, 968 01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:45,000 it is. It's not a city. I mean, oh, you're right. It's behind the, it's behind the lake. You know, 969 01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:50,540 it's down gradient of twain heart. If you were to walk north of the, from the rocket twain heart, 970 01:15:50,540 --> 01:15:53,600 is walk due north, you'll run into this plant. 971 01:15:54,020 --> 01:15:54,860 It's a two or a bench. 972 01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,420 All of the Twin Art CSD's effluent sewer 973 01:15:58,420 --> 01:16:02,080 raw sewage flows by gravity to the, 974 01:16:02,140 --> 01:16:03,300 I'm pointing at the regional plant, 975 01:16:03,420 --> 01:16:05,000 to the Twin Art Wissar treatment plant, 976 01:16:05,300 --> 01:16:07,800 where we do some preliminary treatment there, 977 01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,060 and then it goes into our intercepted damage control. 978 01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:13,960 I don't know, there's probably 30 acres, 979 01:16:14,480 --> 01:16:16,260 25, 30 acres with the plant. 980 01:16:16,260 --> 01:16:24,920 The treatment plant was built in the late 50s and 60s and it's been basically in my opinion a state of a 981 01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:35,660 rest of decay ever since. In the 70s, during the regionalization, somehow that 982 01:16:35,660 --> 01:16:43,640 That asset was transferred over from 12 kind of waters to number one to what ends up being TUD. 983 01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:51,520 And honestly, you know, I'll just tell you, it hasn't had a lot of attention paid to it like it should have. 984 01:16:52,100 --> 01:16:53,600 So it's in a bad way. 985 01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:55,540 So that's not part of the CFD up there. 986 01:16:56,180 --> 01:16:56,540 CSD. 987 01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:58,800 It is not. It is UD. 988 01:16:59,620 --> 01:17:00,700 That's really unusual, isn't it? 989 01:17:00,860 --> 01:17:02,340 I'm sure we'd be happy to give it back. 990 01:17:02,340 --> 01:17:03,240 Yeah, I bet you would. 991 01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:05,100 Any motion? 992 01:17:05,380 --> 01:17:05,860 No, I just did. 993 01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:11,680 In a CSD can do wastewater. 994 01:17:12,940 --> 01:17:13,380 They can? 995 01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:14,260 They can. 996 01:17:14,700 --> 01:17:15,340 Oh, they can? 997 01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:15,880 Yes. 998 01:17:16,660 --> 01:17:18,420 Well, these days, all of you should get all up there 999 01:17:18,420 --> 01:17:20,200 to the 20-hour wastewater treatment plant. 1000 01:17:20,340 --> 01:17:20,920 We'll go have a lunch. 1001 01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,580 So here in summary, here's the, you know, 1002 01:17:26,740 --> 01:17:29,260 what we, the best we can do as far as telling you 1003 01:17:29,260 --> 01:17:33,160 sort of the, some of the impacts to, you know, call outs, 1004 01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:39,700 You know roughly 30 call outs 190 hours of time and a half half hour double time 1005 01:17:39,700 --> 01:17:44,620 Which I question that half hour double time because I know I called somebody out just Sunday for a couple of hours 1006 01:17:44,620 --> 01:17:47,300 So I don't think that's exactly right it but 1007 01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:51,520 That's the made it 200 miles if somebody said no Donald was 350 1008 01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:56,180 I would not argue with them if they said it was 50 I'd argue because I know where I called it 50 1009 01:17:56,180 --> 01:17:57,320 By himself 1010 01:17:59,340 --> 01:18:18,740 I'll take responsibility on one after the fact that said I wanted a quantification of everything because the reason why I think this presentation is important is it goes beyond just the images it lays out some of the facts about what it takes to be able to get through the severe events. 1011 01:18:18,740 --> 01:18:22,740 We already have, as you can see, an aged system. 1012 01:18:23,420 --> 01:18:27,560 And unfortunately, a lot of these old, 1013 01:18:27,860 --> 01:18:29,800 they weren't even built right to begin with. 1014 01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:34,920 Then you combine that with age and inappropriate maintenance. 1015 01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:38,840 And then handed the TUD to now operate, 1016 01:18:39,060 --> 01:18:43,440 which typically, utility sometimes do inherit old systems, 1017 01:18:43,440 --> 01:18:48,020 but when you do, you take those systems 1018 01:18:48,020 --> 01:18:53,680 and you make sure that they are upgraded to the standards and specs of the utility. 1019 01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:56,080 In these cases, it's never been done. 1020 01:18:56,700 --> 01:19:00,820 The ratepayers that were originally responsible for those became to you D. 1021 01:19:01,020 --> 01:19:06,040 So what we have is a collection of many, many systems that are aged, 1022 01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:10,640 weren't built right, then you combine these huge storms. 1023 01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:14,720 It's an extremely complex system to operate as you can see. 1024 01:19:14,860 --> 01:19:17,140 It's already difficult and good weather days. 1025 01:19:17,140 --> 01:19:26,160 you combine these inclement weather, serious weather events, these are huge risky operations. 1026 01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:30,740 And yeah, it would have been good if the individual that was here earlier could have seen this. 1027 01:19:31,300 --> 01:19:39,960 I think the reason I asked for this was the amazing job that our field crews did to keep everything basically up and running. 1028 01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:47,740 But I also wanted to emphasize the riskiness of those ditches at the higher elevations. 1029 01:19:48,060 --> 01:19:51,940 I would love to get past the point where they're having to do that. 1030 01:19:52,380 --> 01:19:54,780 They just keep water going to the water treatment plants. 1031 01:19:54,980 --> 01:20:01,440 And this kind of lends itself to the story of the regional water treatment plants or upper and lower basin. 1032 01:20:02,440 --> 01:20:07,260 I've been talking to staff, we have some ideas about how we might be able to expedite that and 1033 01:20:07,260 --> 01:20:12,180 and ways to try to keep the guys from getting up there to have to shovel snow and ice. 1034 01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:16,200 Because to me, that is a very risky operation. 1035 01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:21,480 I know it's been going on for a long time, and I think it speaks well of the safety program here. 1036 01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:26,360 And the guys watching out for one another that we haven't had a tragic accident. 1037 01:20:26,740 --> 01:20:32,160 Because when I see those pictures, I got my risk management hat on and hate to see any of that. 1038 01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:41,300 But a great presentation, very thankful for that, but I also wanted to emphasize the snow plowing. 1039 01:20:41,300 --> 01:20:43,440 That is not a TUD responsibility. 1040 01:20:44,380 --> 01:20:47,780 We do that because we got to keep the water and sewer going, right? 1041 01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:56,360 And I'm a little concerned, I think I heard from county staff, they had staff but no snow 1042 01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:57,160 plows, right? 1043 01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:58,380 Would they have like one? 1044 01:20:59,460 --> 01:21:01,060 One of their staff told me. 1045 01:21:01,060 --> 01:21:10,540 They're just very short on equipment, and many counties, especially where we have snow every year. 1046 01:21:10,660 --> 01:21:20,660 Now, obviously, it went to a much lower elevation, but if we're snowplowing 2, 3, 400 miles, and I don't 1047 01:21:20,660 --> 01:21:27,180 know if this is an annual event, or if it's just because of this epic snow system, but we need to work 1048 01:21:27,180 --> 01:21:39,860 better with the county, or the county needs to work with us to help us keep these roads open to these critical assets and facilities that keeps the quality of life for our families all over the 12th of the county. 1049 01:21:40,740 --> 01:21:41,260 Barb. 1050 01:21:41,980 --> 01:21:56,780 Yeah, I noticed at the same time PG&E was out in force, they were out all day, I mean during the whole, I was hearing chainsaws on 49, just to, they had to use all kinds of things just to get into an area just to. 1051 01:21:56,780 --> 01:22:02,260 you know, big, big poles were being, you know, they are, and that's a lot of 1052 01:22:02,260 --> 01:22:08,560 expense to keep those kinds of that kind of equipment on standby. I know I tried 1053 01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,740 to get out of my driveway, I was all dressed up, and then I had turned around, 1054 01:22:11,820 --> 01:22:16,760 go get my chainsaw, and just buck up this ginormous limb that just, you know, 1055 01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:20,820 buck through that aside, and then was able to go, I kept my chainsaw on my cars. 1056 01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:26,760 I 1057 01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:32,620 You know, sometimes it like I wish PG need would bury their lines, you know, but you're never it's never done 1058 01:22:32,620 --> 01:22:34,220 But what I heard from you is 1059 01:22:34,780 --> 01:22:37,620 not even a sense of complaining just the 1060 01:22:39,260 --> 01:22:42,880 camaraderie and that you got to do what you got to do you got to quite the opposite 1061 01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:47,360 They're committed. They're not gonna fail. Yeah, it's incredible. They're not gonna fail 1062 01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:54,640 Don did you say they the average maintenance ditch maintenance crew walks 9 to 12 miles a day through that snow 1063 01:22:56,040 --> 01:23:11,440 that's amazing. Some walk more, some walk less. Depending on the storm, you know. One time, you know, there's, you know, there's been worst storms in this greater impacts to our ditches than this one. This one was just a good classic ones. 1064 01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:18,480 The first time we were to capture it and bring it to you. I really want to get you there. It's not a possible Ed said to me. 1065 01:23:19,580 --> 01:23:22,980 I don't know, a few nights, you know, I'm working on a bunch of dates and a couple nights 1066 01:23:22,980 --> 01:23:27,000 ago, you know, I had not about to leave here at five o'clock and I said, yeah, I think 1067 01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:30,200 the districts are going to wrap it up, it's going to get dark on and it goes, well, they're 1068 01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:34,040 so out there, I said, yeah, I said, well, can we go see them? I said, no, we can't. 1069 01:23:35,660 --> 01:23:42,480 We're no shake to go see those. I was ready to go. 1070 01:23:44,540 --> 01:23:46,040 Any other questions or comments from 1071 01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:53,100 the board? Could we just suggest as your board considers your comments that considering what 1072 01:23:53,100 --> 01:24:01,680 I would suggest is Call of Duty above and beyond the typical requirements there's some 1073 01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:05,700 kind of formal recognition. I don't know what it would look like. I don't even know who 1074 01:24:05,700 --> 01:24:11,700 we would recommend, but I think that there's something that perhaps might be done that could 1075 01:24:11,700 --> 01:24:17,980 to include a press release, so I know PG&E was out there, other utilities, but I wanted 1076 01:24:17,980 --> 01:24:22,660 this presentation to your board because they did a lot of work and they do it quietly 1077 01:24:22,660 --> 01:24:27,340 and they probably don't even want to be recognized or noticed, but I want to make sure that 1078 01:24:27,340 --> 01:24:29,840 people hear about the work that was done. 1079 01:24:30,220 --> 01:24:34,640 So I don't have any answers about what I would suggest, but maybe we can think about it. 1080 01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:35,300 Resolution? 1081 01:24:35,740 --> 01:24:35,880 Yeah. 1082 01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:40,740 So any questions or comments from the audience and we have a storm tonight, so it's not 1083 01:24:40,740 --> 01:24:41,340 Not over yet. 1084 01:24:41,860 --> 01:24:43,420 This baby's not over for sure. 1085 01:24:45,420 --> 01:24:52,420 I'm fine with that recommendation, so come back with some ideas and be glad to hear it. 1086 01:24:55,300 --> 01:24:57,580 We'll move on to Director's Communications and Reports. 1087 01:24:58,680 --> 01:24:59,420 Barbara, would you like to start? 1088 01:24:59,880 --> 01:25:00,140 Sure. 1089 01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:01,660 Let's see. 1090 01:25:01,940 --> 01:25:07,020 On January 25th, there was the Mount County Water Resources Association back here for their 1091 01:25:07,020 --> 01:25:07,560 board meeting. 1092 01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:17,100 And I want to thank those that are from our board that sat in and at least got to know who the folks were and that was great. 1093 01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:18,640 You know, we didn't have to drive three hours. 1094 01:25:18,820 --> 01:25:22,040 I appreciate you guys taking some time out and being there. 1095 01:25:22,180 --> 01:25:23,900 I think you were there, I'm off you were there. 1096 01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:24,600 But be right. 1097 01:25:24,940 --> 01:25:27,200 I was the board of supervisors in the session. 1098 01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:33,700 Then I didn't attend this, but on Monday that January 28 was the laugh co. 1099 01:25:33,700 --> 01:25:49,700 But I do believe that our request to participate or something like that was submitted and so they are moving forward, even though I don't think any of us were able to attend that, and that may be it, you can speak on that. 1100 01:25:50,140 --> 01:25:55,800 And then on January 31st, I met with John Kingsbury down in Davis. 1101 01:25:55,800 --> 01:26:22,240 We met, we had an appointment with the folks at the NRCS and that's the national resources conservation service to look at their private land stewardship, private public land stewardship programs and to help them get the word out so that land owners can benefit in tree mortality, fuel reduction and things like that. 1102 01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:27,460 So, got to know some of those guys there at Davis, and that's all I have to report. 1103 01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:29,000 Thank you. Right? 1104 01:26:29,860 --> 01:26:32,960 Yeah, at the end of January, I was at the Board of Supervisors. 1105 01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:39,420 Car road effort was talking about the county idea of doing the fire safety kickoff. 1106 01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:43,620 So I wanted to see what their ideas were for that and how that might impact TUD. 1107 01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:49,580 So I was attending that, and then also on January 25th, I wasn't able to attend mountain counties, 1108 01:26:49,580 --> 01:26:53,940 because I went to the wrap-up of the Board of Supervisors visioning session with the new, 1109 01:26:53,980 --> 01:26:58,740 two new board members of where they were setting their goals for the year and one of the things 1110 01:26:58,740 --> 01:27:03,520 they mentioned was they definitely wanted to do a combined meeting with the Board of Supervisors 1111 01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:08,260 and the TUD Board to look at overall visioning things. So I think we're working on setting that up 1112 01:27:08,260 --> 01:27:13,740 after we come, we put some of our ideas together with the vision. I met with General Manager 1113 01:27:13,740 --> 01:27:43,720 at Paterson to talk on our monthly meeting and then I was also at the fire safety county kickoff meeting that had all the people that were going to be involved in going forward with looking at their number one priority that they set up for the county fire safety and they had everybody there from all the emergency services people to the fire department to everybody else there there was probably 30 people sitting around that table for the initial kickoff meeting and that was there as well. 1114 01:27:43,740 --> 01:27:46,880 So they'll be more of that to report in the future. 1115 01:27:47,100 --> 01:27:47,840 Thank you. 1116 01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:49,200 Yeah. 1117 01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:56,900 Yeah, I was at the January 22nd immediately following our last board meeting here. 1118 01:27:57,020 --> 01:27:58,320 I went down to City Hall for the. 1119 01:27:59,780 --> 01:28:02,060 They were talking about vision Sonora and whatnot. 1120 01:28:03,700 --> 01:28:08,580 And I've just wondered if we had any conversation with them on how any of their improvements might. 1121 01:28:08,580 --> 01:28:17,360 might affect UD. I know they're doing extensive work down there. They're planning on it and it just occurred to me as I was there. 1122 01:28:17,700 --> 01:28:24,020 There was the road closure. It was the name of that one street there where the Snorah Tap Room is. 1123 01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:32,920 I had our district engineer talk to the city engineer make sure that whatever is done, there's no impact of facilities. 1124 01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:36,360 And we don't believe there is, so we're in constant communication. 1125 01:28:36,380 --> 01:28:36,740 Okay, good. 1126 01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:37,440 City of Snora. 1127 01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:38,880 Yeah, cool. 1128 01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:54,740 And also, that really an official one, but Super Bowl breakfast, Eric was there, did a good job on representing PUD, and handling the Raffle prizes, so did a good job, Eric, and raised a lot of money, good for you guys. 1129 01:28:55,440 --> 01:28:55,740 Thank you. 1130 01:28:58,500 --> 01:29:13,700 Okay, just something to go along with what Director Kerns was talking about with that vision Sonora one thing that's concerned me that I'd really like you to keep an eye on is they're talking about putting in some 1131 01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:34,980 And with all that old waste lines that are in that area, I think that there should be some sort of bulletproof way that people can't flush stuff down that's going to cause us grief because I can just see that coming. 1132 01:29:35,940 --> 01:29:40,740 That's been a concern of mine for probably a good three years now. 1133 01:29:40,740 --> 01:29:52,660 So, okay, first of all, I want to thank GM Paterson and Don for that, I think that was really great report. 1134 01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:59,980 I'll just say this, that back in 2012, I had, when I was out. 1135 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:18,620 I'm not touring all of the facilities that TUD has. I actually thought that I wanted to go out with a ditch crew and walk it during one of these storms, but it 72 years young, I think I'm not going to do that. 1136 01:30:21,260 --> 01:30:21,740 Okay. 1137 01:30:21,740 --> 01:30:45,980 Okay, on January 24th, I attended the Twin Heart CSD Board meeting and addressed and discussed the situation on going about fire water drafting points or what's not happening with fire water drafting points on the 25th, I attended participated in the Mountain Counties Water Resources Association Board meeting. 1138 01:30:45,980 --> 01:31:15,880 I was there as the new chairman of the legislative committee overhaul and the ideas that we're coming up to try and get that rolling on February 7th, the 10th of the Mountain Counties, Water Resources Association meeting to help in the possible formation of a new associate member advisory committee for information sharing and advice. 1139 01:31:15,980 --> 01:31:21,680 to be given to the executive director for processing to the board of directors and 1140 01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:24,700 or appropriate committees for further review and action. 1141 01:31:25,020 --> 01:31:32,680 So what that's all about is trying to get ideas from the quote unquote business community 1142 01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:36,140 that are associate members to mountain counties. 1143 01:31:37,780 --> 01:31:45,840 and then a final thought or two. I contacted our GM last week. 1144 01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:50,720 I came in here to the office but 1145 01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:57,900 I didn't see him but we caught each other out in the parking lot and then again yesterday I put 1146 01:31:57,900 --> 01:32:05,220 in a call to find out how the crew fared. I mean I was really concerned. The F was a pretty darn good 1147 01:32:05,220 --> 01:32:10,900 snowstorm and I was really concerned that some of you might get hurt or or anything like that. 1148 01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:17,160 So when I asked our GM the other day how our crew members fared with a diff system doing 1149 01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:23,260 the snowstorm he said all went pretty well. I was concerned if anyone had been injured and he said no 1150 01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:31,600 which I was glad to hear. I don't think I speak just for myself but I'll say personally that I am proud 1151 01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:41,260 of our TUD crew members that do such an awesome job keeping our water flowing even in harsh weather like we just experienced. 1152 01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:45,920 PG&E could probably learn a few things from our crew. 1153 01:32:46,480 --> 01:32:56,260 I also want to thank our GM, Mr. Paterson, for his care and of consideration for our crew members 1154 01:32:56,260 --> 01:33:09,720 by having made the decision to authorize and provide the crew members with quality foul weather gear for their safety, health, and as much comfort as possible while performing the tough job that they have. 1155 01:33:10,420 --> 01:33:18,520 A decision in action or past GM just couldn't seem to make as he only authorized mediocre gear. 1156 01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:21,860 Thank you for carrying GM Paterson. 1157 01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:23,820 That's all we got. 1158 01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:30,560 I too met with our General Manager Ed to discuss the agenda as all past 1159 01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:36,380 presence is done. And I decided to go start going to the county Water Advisory Committee meeting 1160 01:33:36,380 --> 01:33:40,740 so I was going to my first meeting the other day and I was advised that they were up having 1161 01:33:40,740 --> 01:33:46,440 their retreat up at Highway 120 so I didn't make that so I'll make the next one hopefully. 1162 01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:52,560 Other than that, we'll now have a close session and I will read the description. 1163 01:33:52,560 --> 01:34:00,300 Conference of Real Property Negotiators, pursuant to government code section 54956.8, property 1164 01:34:00,300 --> 01:34:11,740 APN 085-050-001 at all, agency negotiators Ed Paterson, general manager Jesse Barton and 1165 01:34:11,740 --> 01:34:19,200 Tom Johnson, other party to negotiations Mike Schnoner, Pacific Gas and Electric under negotiation 1166 01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:25,920 price in terms of payment. With that, we will close to closed session.