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[0:00] Now we're good. Okay, now we're going to call this meeting to order. Would you like to lead us into a pledge?
[0:07] Sir, I
[0:12] pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
[0:18] Republic for which it stands, one nation and one not indivisible, with liberty and justice
[0:24] grow.
[0:29] Thank you.
[0:38] We'd like to welcome members of the public who have taken the time to attend this meeting
[0:42] and provide comment on matters relative to board business.
[0:46] Any member of the public may address the board relating to any matter within the board's
[0:50] jurisdiction.
[0:51] This need not be related to any item on the agenda, however, the Board cannot act on any item unless it was noticed on the agenda.
[1:00] Persons speaking during the public comment will be limited to five minutes, or depending on the number of persons wishing to speak,
[1:06] it may be reduced to allow all members of the public the opportunity to address the Board.
[1:15] I would like to speak.
[1:19] Okay, a consent column?
[1:21] Thank you.
[1:22] Oh, who does?
[1:22] Yes.
[1:23] Okay.
[1:24] This is Joe.
[1:25] Good afternoon.
[1:26] Good afternoon.
[1:27] I live up in the Twain Art on Plateau Road.
[1:31] They're in a real recent power outage.
[1:36] Pumped that services are a street.
[1:38] I think it's called down here and it said it was Thunderbolt Mine or something.
[1:42] I don't know if it was Thunderbolt Mine.
[1:44] But it doesn't have a generator on it.
[1:45] I guess all the others do.
[1:47] And I'm questioning why we, because I didn't get, we got our power back.
[1:51] We didn't get our water back for there to why is there a reason that there's there's no
[2:00] Generator on that pump station
[2:04] We call that a pump station see a rock pump station. It is
[2:09] It's one of the many booster stations without
[2:15] Why talk you said it was just one of the few
[2:21] Why don't they have
[2:23] It's a long story, again, we have 57 booster stations all over the county, all over our area and through the year, as we can, we try to improve the situation to supply gravity where we can, or put it a generator where we can.
[2:43] We're in a bot process, this is where I'd like to do the center time with the Tuerrax CSD
[2:48] some day, get a gravity supply from them.
[2:51] It's just another one of many projects we have not to.
[2:54] Yes.
[2:54] One of the words, tough luck.
[2:57] Well, I can say it that way, but one of those areas depends this way.
[3:04] Well, we took over that Cedar Rock company.
[3:08] I don't know how long ago.
[3:09] That was before my time.
[3:10] We took that over back.
[3:12] Okay.
[3:13] Do you have any idea, Don, when it's going to come back on?
[3:15] Oh, it's on mine.
[3:16] Oh, it's on now.
[3:16] Okay.
[3:17] It was out for two days.
[3:18] You said four days.
[3:20] Four days.
[3:21] Four days.
[3:22] And this is the first time.
[3:23] No, I mean.
[3:24] I mean, we're at a regular, a regular thing.
[3:26] It's kind of frustrated.
[3:28] I mean, that should be tree falls, knocks on the power line, stuff.
[3:31] I understand that.
[3:34] Hey, Don.
[3:35] You still have water.
[3:36] So is this a tank that goes dry or is it a pressure system?
[3:39] Pressure
[3:41] system.
[3:41] Something in here.
[3:42] Yeah, it was ill-conceived from inception and we got it so there's no way to fix it directly. No, there's there's ways to fix it.
[3:54] It's a generator, prioritizing our funds and outgating the fund, right?
[3:58] It's a generator, right?
[3:59] I think it's a cost.
[4:01] I think it's a cost.
[4:03] Okay, I guess I'd answer my question.
[4:06] Thank you.
[4:07] Okay, thank you.
[4:09] Are there any other comments?
[4:11] staff will talk about our priorities and you know just for the gentlemen say we do have a cap on
[4:16] equipment workshop coming up in a couple of months and all these projects and priorities
[4:22] get formulated in that CIP process and we'll talk to the German for 20 years is the
[4:28] Trump tribe and we'll look at this to no guarantees but we are concerned it's important to us
[4:36] and we'll do what we can.
[4:38] Well, it'd be important to everybody
[4:40] if they lost their water too.
[4:41] I agree.
[4:42] Yeah.
[4:43] Totally agree.
[4:45] In fact, you got to know what electricity is
[4:47] once you can run a generator,
[4:48] and these keep your stuff cold,
[4:49] but you can't flush a toilet, you can't, you know?
[4:53] No, we understand.
[4:54] Well, we'll definitely look at it,
[4:56] and we'll see if we'll do it.
[4:57] It seems like a pretty simple fix,
[4:58] but a generator in a pump station.
[5:00] I think it's more than just a generator.
[5:02] We're talking a few other expensive pieces in place.
[5:05] So I think what we're looking at, see what we can do, understand it.
[5:11] Okay.
[5:12] Thank you very much.
[5:13] Thanks.
[5:14] Thank you.
[5:15] Thank you.
[5:15] Can you all make sure that your microphones are on?
[5:19] I think mine's on.
[5:21] Rollins is off.
[5:22] Thank you very much.
[5:23] I don't know if I'm talking.
[5:26] Is there any other members of the public who like my comment at this time?
[5:30] I've got just one more question on that.
[5:32] on how many customers you think are on there just approximately that's served by his
[5:37] pump station.
[5:38] Five.
[5:39] Less than about a dozen.
[5:44] Okay.
[5:44] So you know where this is, do you?
[5:46] Oh yeah, I know where Thunderbolt Minus is.
[5:47] This office is up there on top between the 108 and higher road and plateau.
[5:53] Uh-huh.
[5:54] The apartment is down there and I have a breakdown in Thunderbolt.
[5:57] Yeah.
[5:58] I have a question.
[6:00] Yeah.
[6:00] Don, when we use a backup generator, are they usually diesel and do you have to worry about the diesel getting old in the tanks and stuff like that, and how does that work?
[6:12] Some of our diesel, some of our propane, on the diesel ones, yes, we do have to worry about the fuel.
[6:20] Do they know about the presentation?
[6:25] No, they don't.
[6:27] But, yeah, certainly we don't.
[6:29] So I'm going to give a big presentation and this will be a
[6:32] trip time and ask all the questions right now.
[6:34] Yeah, and in public comment, you know, we can, if it's simple,
[6:37] we can respond, but it really does need to be agendized.
[6:41] But we do have a presentation coming up of the impact of the winter
[6:45] storms on operations.
[6:46] And that's a good time for your board to talk about some of the issues.
[6:50] Great.
[6:51] Thanks.
[6:52] Okay, we'll move on to the consent calendar.
[6:55] Okay, item number one, minutes of a regular board meeting of January 22, 2019.
[7:01] Item number two, approval of reimbursement claims for director's statement of meetings
[7:05] attended and or travel expenses and the claim summary of January 2019.
[7:11] Item number three, reject claim for damages.
[7:14] Actors claim number 18-06 and Dia Shans Sherritt at that and Austin Sherritt claimants.
[7:23] Item number four, authorize general manager to execute amendment number one to agreement for sediment reuse on land's owned by summer's family investments.
[7:34] I didn't want to pull one, I just said one question for Eric on one.
[7:38] I do want to pull two.
[7:40] Okay, but I mean, go ahead and maybe you'll get ahead.
[7:43] I just have a question on four, I don't want to pull.
[7:47] Eric, I just had a question with the extension of that contract.
[7:51] I assume you're anticipating that we're going to start a year from now and
[7:56] then it's going to be a two year process so you allow that contract, you know, to be a worst case scenario.
[8:01] Exactly.
[8:02] Okay.
[8:03] Okay.
[8:04] Okay, I'd like to pull items two and three, okay?
[8:13] Any other discussion on the consent calendar?
[8:20] Probably a motion to approve one and four then and then we'll discuss two and three.
[8:25] You want to do that?
[8:26] I'll make a motion to approve one and four.
[8:29] I'll second it.
[8:30] It's been regularly moved and seconded that we approve one and four.
[8:33] All those in favor signify by saying aye.
[8:35] Aye.
[8:41] Okay.
[8:44] Okay.
[8:45] Mr. Rain.
[8:46] Okay.
[8:47] On number two, I see we've had a format change and I don't want to be labor this, but
[8:58] in early 2012, when I was first on the board, before I got on the board, I didn't really
[9:06] We understand what the claims summary was all about.
[9:10] I just see the board basically rubber stamp at every month.
[9:17] And once I was on the board, what we were being given at that time and
[9:23] it apparently had gone on forever was just the total amount of checks that had been paid for that past month with no real description.
[9:35] And so I said at that time, I think it was in February or something, the second month I was on the board.
[9:44] I said, I'm never going to vote yes on this thing again until I know what's in it.
[9:48] I mean get 800,000 to a million dollars and there's no description of where that money went.
[9:57] So, at that time, I think Steve Sheffield had just taken over as the finance director, I believe, and anyway, he was instrumental along with the GM at that time of putting together the claim summary that we've been seeing for the past number of years.
[10:23] and it has every check listed, has every vendor, it has brief description enough so that you can figure out what the check was actually for, and now it's disappeared.
[10:38] This is not acceptable. I mean, you have no way of knowing where this money's gone, and it's not that I think that the finance department or anybody in the organization is doing anything that is improper.
[10:53] But I think it's important for, that's why the board directors were elected was to take care of our ratepayers.
[11:03] And if we don't know where the money is going, we're not taking care of our ratepayers.
[11:09] So I'm going to have to vote no on this today.
[11:13] And I can only hope that we go back to the old, it's not old, the one that we've been using.
[11:20] that format for quite a number of years.
[11:29] Any other comments?
[11:32] Are there options in the way it's formulated?
[11:38] Perhaps there may be.
[11:40] Yes.
[11:40] All right, come on.
[11:41] Start
[11:44] to respond to that or not.
[11:47] Okay. Good afternoon, everyone.
[11:50] Steve, should I have your finance director?
[11:52] And yeah, in hindsight, I apologize for not having this discussion before it went out.
[11:59] edge came to me we were under some time constraints as I told you at the last
[12:06] important meeting we're really in the heart of the transition with our financial
[12:11] software and actually the month of January is half the old system and half the
[12:17] new system and so we've spent every day over time getting things going the whole
[12:24] So, you know, the Claim Summary itself, Director Ringen is correct that when I got here, I inherited a one-page sheet that had the total for the month.
[12:34] Claim Summaries vary widely from district to district.
[12:38] If you've ever been associated with a school or a county or a city, some of them have a check register, some have a warrant register, some have a listing.
[12:48] There's no official, dictated form, it's what's best serves the majority of the board.
[12:56] And so at that time there was a lot of discussion about what was needed, what was wanted, some
[13:00] board members wanted, account posting, some board members just wanted to check register.
[13:05] But anyway, that's what we landed on back in 2012 and what you have been provided each
[13:10] month since then.
[13:11] So, when we got to this one, I went to our general manager head and basically the old format
[13:18] doesn't exist anymore.
[13:19] I mean, we're in a new system now.
[13:22] We're still learning it.
[13:23] We're still bringing balances over every day on finding out about the capabilities.
[13:28] It has a tremendous amount of capabilities.
[13:31] So, we had a decision to make.
[13:32] Do we proceed with what is fairly a standard format, which is this was the software consultants
[13:39] coming from other similar agencies, and some we actually visited typically do.
[13:45] It's much more of a check register shows the payee, the check amount, and the dollar amount.
[13:51] And I said, Ed, here's what I have right now.
[13:54] I know we need to get the packet out for the board members.
[13:58] We can go with this.
[14:00] We can not include it at all, or again, I'll continue to see what's available to us.
[14:06] And I think in this system we're going to have everything from one extreme to the other.
[14:11] So at that time, I think Ed and I both agreed, well, let's go with this and I know there's going to be at least one more member who'll be confused and be against it.
[14:21] But at least to start.
[14:23] Now certainly anything that's on there can be provided.
[14:27] The premise with a lot of districts and everything else is that when I'm recording to you,
[14:32] like I'm going to do later today with the quarterly financial statements, that's really
[14:37] your summary of where the money went and what it did.
[14:39] The check register is typically just that.
[14:42] All governmental agencies will do some form.
[14:44] Now again, if we want to list, you know, the problem we had, at least from my perspective,
[14:48] the problem we had with the prior format is it didn't include quantities.
[14:53] So you might have a member of the public say, why did you spend $96 on a hose?
[14:57] Well, it wasn't one hoe.
[15:00] It was, you know, 30 hoses or something of that sort. And there was no way to really work around that. But it was very transparent. And everybody could look at and see everything from dog treat dog biscuits. I was wondering, why do they have dog biscuits? Think of it. It's our meter readers. You're out there and angry dog runs up instead of spraying them. You give them a dog biscuit. But anyway, so our claim summary includes everything from dog biscuits to wrenches to polymers to everything in between.
[15:29] So this is what we got, I would certainly continue to expose to the board, I'm more
[15:35] willing to work with whatever you all want to need. I told the same thing to
[15:39] add, honestly, I've had four different claims summaries under six different
[15:43] general managers. Even this last one changed under our interim general manager. So
[15:48] this is new, the financials are going to change and looks, we're going to go
[15:53] forward and but I'm here to serve the board in whatever format they do and especially on this one,
[15:59] I can bring it back to the board in a different format if that's their direction. I'm always
[16:05] available if you want to come to me and say what was this check for or whatever but it's really a
[16:10] board's decision as to what you want to do and again apologize for no advance notice on this but
[16:16] this is what we did to start with but I assure you there are other options available and if that had
[16:22] any comments, Dad?
[16:24] I would just confirm that this is pretty much what you see before you is a kind of an industry standard.
[16:30] In some cities, they don't even provide the warrant list.
[16:33] In this case, you have the vendor name, the amount, the day.
[16:37] If you see any anomalies or regularities or something that catches your eye that's larger than you expect to be,
[16:47] I would like to think that you would call staff.
[16:51] We have all the documentation, we're happy to provide that detailed information.
[16:58] But this is a summary list intended to provide your board the summary of all the checks that are written over the course of the month.
[17:10] So, the problem there is
[17:17] that there are some of these vendors like Bank of America, and
[17:23] there's a few others who I can't think of right off the top of my head.
[17:29] And for several years now, at least, well since 2012, there was numerous checks within
[17:40] in that one vendor, and it took me a lot of time.
[17:45] I mean, I used to spend several hours every month,
[17:50] prior to the meeting, going through every single line item,
[17:56] every vendor, and looking to see where that money was spent.
[18:02] And it was always, I mean, I don't think there's anybody here
[18:08] at TUD that's doing anything that's not kosher and so on.
[18:12] But I know I've questioned Steve several times
[18:19] like, because I've been in the construction trade
[18:22] for 56 years.
[18:25] I've got tools that I bought that are still usable
[18:29] from the 60s.
[18:31] And when I see every month shovel after shovel,
[18:37] after shovel bought, when I see gloves, after gloves bought, sun glasses, I start to get
[18:47] really kind of a little, I got a question and I do.
[18:54] And I just, right now, there's no way you can tell anything of use or anything else.
[19:01] You just given a vendor a number in an amount, period.
[19:10] One that you also have electronic fund transfers, those were not provided before they're now on this report.
[19:22] I mean, from my standpoint, this provides me as much detail as I need, because what I really look for is your quarterly reports, and the other things to see where we are against performance the budget, and I expect to be looking at that detail.
[19:37] That being said, you know, I understand Ron wants to look at it in more detail.
[19:42] I want to look at it in relation to the overall budget that we've put in place.
[19:45] So every board member's, every board member's different, but this works for me.
[19:50] So,
[19:52] Barbara?
[19:55] I find it interesting when you do look at it as you always learn something from it.
[19:59] You learn the complexity and the, you know, hardiness or fragility of the system.
[20:05] And so, I think at some point, if the system can spit out how many of this or how many
[20:13] of that, not to do any kind of catch or anything, but because it's fascinating the dog
[20:20] biscuit part, but it's a learning process to see, because after a while your mind is looking
[20:27] at patterns between the summer and the winter and trends and why these costs are why we're
[20:32] any more on gloves, you know, because we're maybe going through them, or the weasered
[20:37] hall and we're losing them.
[20:39] So if the program can handle it, I think we all look at this in different ways in the
[20:44] level like you for performance.
[20:48] So maybe it might be good to have a part of the program that can spit out that when the
[20:55] the capability is there, and when you've learned it.
[20:59] Yeah, I mean, one of the things I always look at is, you know, I'm interested in what
[21:05] is our power, you know, needs on a monthly basis.
[21:08] So, I'm always looking at what do we pay to PG&E, and then what do we pay to the other independent
[21:15] power provider, you know, the JPA that we're part of, and it always amazes me how much power
[21:21] we have to do to do a system in this this area when you're going going up and down.
[21:26] But, you know, so I do look at certain vendors that in there and see the trends of where it's going.
[21:32] But as far as the gloves, you know, I think to each his own, but at the end of the day,
[21:36] I want to know how we're performing to the budget that we set up that adds managing
[21:40] and your everybody else is performing to.
[21:44] You know, and some agencies include a big packet, you know, with their monthly one.
[21:48] They may have a variety of reports to satisfy different needs, different stakeholders, different
[21:53] users.
[21:54] But I know Ron's well aware of this as well, but, you know, for the rest of the board,
[21:59] our internal process is we don't cut a check to anybody unless I have proven.
[22:05] So I had not knowingly ever cut a check for something that wasn't necessary to the operations
[22:10] of T&D.
[22:12] I've never cut a check for something that I felt was extraordinary, extravagant or wasn't
[22:17] a fair price. So there is a process in place. And like you mentioned, Ron, I have a binder
[22:22] in there. I know I had to see it before, too. But there are certain things I'm really concerned
[22:26] with, too. What's our power usage? What's our power cost? What's our fuel usage? What's our fuel
[22:31] cost? What's our insurance? So, a lot of those I'm tracking. And hopefully, you know, I think
[22:35] either in the last money statement or the one before, I kind of say, did you know what are our top
[22:40] 10 expenses and stuff? So, I would encourage you, you know, hopefully you don't have to do a spreadsheet
[22:46] to track energy cost if you like, I can provide that to you because I do that in my day to day activity.
[22:52] Same sort of thing with Ron and some of his questions, you know, the guys go through stuff.
[22:57] They're out floating snow or walking down the water and sometimes are we getting a new truck and
[23:02] we got to put in some new supplies for the truck or whatever. But, you know, we're certainly
[23:07] want to be encouraging, to be transparent, to provide information that helps you to do your job
[23:13] in your role. And each of you probably view that a little differently if you get to
[23:17] go to the district and what you want to do. So I don't know if this is something maybe
[23:21] during the strategic plan. I mean, we spent time on that and the financials. We certainly
[23:26] like I said, once this is up and running, I think the capabilities to rapidly and creatively
[23:32] produce information out of the system is going to be far easier than it ever has been.
[23:36] And so we just kind of need a board consensus as to what we might want to look back.
[23:43] And obviously we don't have to do that right now.
[23:46] I mean, that could be a future thing or something we discuss.
[23:48] And again, whether you accept it or not for this one, I can see what I got by the next meeting
[23:54] and hopefully come back with something different and show you what else I can readily do.
[23:58] But it really comes down to looking at other agencies, how much detail you want.
[24:02] Somebody here might want to know it's a wrench.
[24:04] Somebody over here said no, I just want to know that the total and the vendor and again you're gonna get the financial
[24:10] Report you're gonna get budget documents. That's all separate. This is more, I guess to house keeping it if you will
[24:16] And I'm not encouraging we go to just a check register, but it's just it's an option.
[24:23] Any questions, Steve?
[24:25] Any other questions?
[24:27] Sure, did I hear you say that it's not capable of
[24:30] Spittin it out the old one?
[24:31] No, what I was trying to say is the old format is from a different system.
[24:35] It was a custom report made within that system.
[24:39] The new system definitely has that capability.
[24:42] I'm just still trying to learn what the different options are.
[24:46] So the old one does need this, the new one, the information there.
[24:49] It's just finding the report.
[24:50] The report format from Tyler's, I believe, is used elsewhere.
[24:56] So this is part of the portion of the software that's canned.
[25:01] There's probably a custom report writing capability.
[25:05] So if you're a board majority says, hey, we want more information, we will have to write
[25:10] a custom report that then will be a tool that we can use for future board package, you
[25:19] know, part of your board package, but it's going to take a little time to write it.
[25:23] For now, we're using one of the tools that was provided by Tyler.
[25:28] And again, I don't want to insinuate this was intentional or anything.
[25:31] We're under a crunch, we're trying to get it out, and the consultant help us said,
[25:35] hey, here's what Paradise uses. Here's what Oakdale uses. Here's what somebody in the Bay Area
[25:41] uses or whatever. So he was able to rapidly provide this with our information. Actually, it's kind
[25:46] of the inverse of what Ed said, under our old system, everything was custom. Under this new system,
[25:53] they have standard reports that are flexible, informational, easy to get information out. So
[25:59] So actually, he just provided this and say, hey, try this.
[26:03] I know you're under a crunch, here's what it does, and generate immediately.
[26:06] We have other reports that will be just as easy.
[26:08] We won't have to have customization or anything on notice, I'm confident.
[26:12] So, good question.
[26:13] Is there a consensus, is Board happy with this, or do you want more?
[26:18] And if you want more, we'll have to explore the work involved with custom writing a new report to meet what that more is.
[26:31] I'd kind of like to see a little more custom on it.
[26:34] Like more in the description?
[26:35] Yeah, I don't, just to clarify, I probably don't go line by line like Rhonda's, but it's
[26:40] nice to, especially on some of the larger items and whatnot, to be able to see what the
[26:46] breakdown is.
[26:46] Sure.
[26:47] Yeah.
[26:48] I agree.
[26:51] The better I understand what y'all look for, so, you know, about the very next meeting, I
[26:56] can have something that has additional information what I'm hearing is more of a description of
[27:01] the item purchased and see what I come up with.
[27:05] That work?
[27:07] Okay, thank you, Steve.
[27:09] Thank you.
[27:09] You want to just go on that line item because you had another line item that you pulled as well.
[27:14] Yeah, I just have a question which I don't know who it should be directed to.
[27:20] That's an insurance claim for a backup and I read through that item.
[27:28] And the way it was written up, it made it sound like it was all TUD's fault.
[27:37] And yet, if you really read into it, it sounds like, to me, the lateral was a problem.
[27:48] Well, then I don't, you know, the way it was written up, all the blame was to TUD,
[27:56] And the routes and the thing, other things that were in the pipe had nothing to do with TUD is what I'm trying to say.
[28:02] That's the way I read it.
[28:04] Wasn't it written up by the homeowner that was submitting the claim?
[28:07] So that's why it was written up that way.
[28:09] Well, I can't assume anything.
[28:11] I just read what I read.
[28:17] So I handle the claims here.
[28:19] So Ron's correct.
[28:23] The claimant fills out the claim form.
[28:26] That's how you start the process with the claim against TUD.
[28:29] So, this is the claimants claim form, we attach it with the package so that you can see what the claimant is claiming.
[28:36] And just for all those reasons, we as the district believe that it is not the district's liability,
[28:41] that it was in the lateral line, and we did do an investigation to ensure that our main was clear and it was.
[28:50] So, that's what we would recommend that it be rejected.
[28:52] I could have almost guaranteed that that's exactly what came down, and I did know that the homeowner had filled out the claim form.
[29:01] So I'm sure that the insurance company will have a lot of fun with it.
[29:06] I'll be wanted at the time.
[29:09] Yeah, thanks when I actually wanted to pull this item for the very same reason.
[29:13] When I read it, I couldn't quite figure out where the clog was.
[29:19] And then I went, so I went back to the background on our little sheet, and I couldn't figure it out because I was just one sense.
[29:31] And so it seems to me that in the background, it might have a little level, it might have that level of detail, which is really where what you came up with, and maybe you didn't have it at that point.
[29:45] But just so when you read the claim and obviously they're going to say her and they're frustrated and they checked into a hotel for a couple nights and I don't blame them and all that but then from our side there wasn't anything that let the board know exactly what we
[30:00] I wanted to know, which is, well, whose side of this, whose side was it on? And I don't know if we could put that in the future, in the background. We'll put some background, more detailed background, because we did have the information. Yeah, we pull from when we have these types of claims, we go back to our, typically when it's a wastewater, we go back to the wastewater ordinance, and there are very specific sections related to sewer laterals and backflow devices, and where the clean-out should be located on the property.
[30:29] to ensure that it's not going in the house or in the basement, but if there is a backup
[30:35] that it would go outside. So, typically this is the amount of information that's been
[30:40] provided to the board and we handle all the background, but if you'd like more information
[30:45] we can provide it.
[30:48] Okay.
[30:49] Thank you, Abby.
[30:53] Okay.
[30:59] Any other comments from the public?
[31:02] like? They will bring back to the board. Director Rangan, would you like to keep these things
[31:09] pulled the same way or would you like to address them together?
[31:15] You can go either way. I'll
[31:17] deal with it. Okay. Well, let's vote on number two first. Approval of reimbursement claims
[31:23] for director's statement of meetings attended by or travel expenses in the claim summary
[31:30] for January 2019 of a motion.
[31:35] I'll move that we accept number two.
[31:38] I'll second.
[31:39] Then we'll move to the second that we accept number two.
[31:41] All those in favor signify by saying aye.
[31:43] Aye.
[31:44] I very reluctantly say aye.
[31:49] You're unanimous.
[31:50] Okay number three reject claims for damages.
[31:53] Claim number 18-06.
[31:56] Mathias Sands, Saray, and Augustine Saray claimants.
[32:01] I make the motion.
[32:01] And I'll second it's been regularly moved in a second that we reject claims for damages claim number 1806 and Thia San Saray and Augustine Saray Augustine Saray.
[32:12] I think it's claimants. All any other comment? All those in favor signify by saying aye.
[32:19] Aye.
[32:22] And then the rest of the consent calendar. Is there a motion?
[32:26] We already.
[32:27] We already did.
[32:28] Yes.
[32:30] Thank you more sleep.
[32:31] I think.
[32:32] We'll move on to regular business number five.
[32:34] Sequa notice of number five.
[32:37] I've got it.
[32:38] Item number five.
[32:39] Sequa notice of determination and agreement regarding construction and transfer of water and
[32:44] sewer.
[32:44] Main line extensions to serve the Eagle Ridge development phase one, Edward L and Carla J. Brown
[32:50] and Kristi S. Brown.
[32:53] President, members of the board, this agenda item is a CEQA notice of determination and development agreement, or the Eagle Ridge phase one development, which if you're not familiar with Eagle Ridge, it's right across the street here.
[33:10] Your ABC roofing, you can access it through that loop road or right over near the flooring supply company there.
[33:20] And it's a pretty standard flavor development agreement.
[33:24] This proposed development's been around since 2013.
[33:29] It had an approved sequa through the county.
[33:32] We are not the lead agency, we're the responsible agency just dealing with water and
[33:38] sewer infrastructure.
[33:41] The project proponent came back and scaled his development plans down and reduced the number of units that they were planning and that went through another certification process with the county.
[34:01] So, the secret is complete, the developer is ready to move forward this summer with this phase one.
[34:10] The subsequent phase one is 24 units, and subsequent phases will require a separate development agreement with the board, partly because we're just not sure when that may move forward.
[34:26] The project proponent is unsure of that, and our agreements typically have an 18 month term, and so we didn't want to shoulder them with an 18 month term to complete the whole project.
[34:40] So, I'm happy to answer any questions about the detail of the staff report or about the proposed development agreement.
[34:51] Yes.
[34:51] Yes.
[34:52] Okay.
[34:53] Okay.
[34:54] I'm just curious.
[34:56] What were the, it said it was a mitigated that the county had done a mitigated negative deck.
[35:03] Do you know what the mitigation was?
[35:07] I don't.
[35:08] Barbara, the mitigated negative declaration is on file here in the office and so the mitigations
[35:15] and the monitoring plan associated with that would be in Antonio's office.
[35:20] We didn't obviously attach it here as a responsible agency, we really wouldn't get too involved in that other than if there's a specific mitigation that involves the pipeline alignment for our particular infrastructure.
[35:37] But it's really more between the developer and the developer basically and the county.
[35:43] I think in the past, we have included that checklist and the mitigations that we're
[35:53] done, you know, what are the CEQA areas that needed to be addressed in order to reduce
[35:58] the level of effects.
[36:00] We have-
[36:01] Are you talking about the initial study checklist?
[36:04] Is that what you want or you want-
[36:05] Well, indicated.
[36:05] You know how-
[36:06] The actual adopted monitoring plan for the-
[36:14] And then they've reduced it down to less than significant.
[36:17] And here's the little reason.
[36:19] Right.
[36:20] Right.
[36:21] And I mean, personally, I'd like to know if it was a culture
[36:24] resource or wildlife habitat or some kind of endangered
[36:27] species, I mean, what was it noise?
[36:31] And that, usually that checklist that Antonio has
[36:34] provides that level of detail.
[36:36] OK.
[36:37] Yeah, we can certainly include that in the future.
[36:41] It's been a while since we've had much
[36:44] development that had any significant environmental associated with it, but yes, we can certainly do that.
[36:52] Okay, thank you.
[36:53] Well, it was done in 2013.
[36:56] I see it was at NGDAQ here.
[36:59] There seems to be a conflict within the county as a lead agency up above it says mitigate NGDAQ, but in the findings it says NGDAQ.
[37:08] So again, the county's lead agency on any land use, we're just responding to the water sewer provision.
[37:17] Hence, why the utilities aren't providing an egg deck, because that's more of the planning department's responsibility to implement the NEC deck.
[37:28] If there is a mitigated deck deck, it's not clear to me because in the findings, it's talking about a negative declaration.
[37:35] That's a good distinction and in my experience, limited experiences, there's very rarely a negative declaration.
[37:44] It's either an exempt project or there's some mitigation.
[37:47] So there may have been an omission there, but that's a good point.
[37:50] We can find out in Antonio's office what he's got.
[37:55] I read the document so it was a couple of years ago, but it dealt with the mitigated negative decked out with traffic.
[38:03] So they had a turn lane going into it.
[38:05] It had some oak tree, so it was what the oak tree mitigation that went with it.
[38:10] There was some noise and it dealt with the typical construction noise between hours of operation.
[38:14] So there wasn't anything that was out of line, but it would be easy to just attach that document.
[38:19] So there's, you know, but from from looking at it, there wasn't, there's a lot of grading on the site, but there wasn't, there wasn't any big issues.
[38:38] You know public comment public comment is there any public comment this issue
[38:48] Okay,
[38:51] you were going to bring up my construction water if you wanted to talk about that
[38:58] Yeah, I'd like to see us adopt a policy for construction water
[39:03] I was checking with some of the Valley cities down there to find out what they're doing now
[39:07] and they basically have a provision where you can rent a two-inch meter to put on any fire hydrant in the sub-division
[39:16] and then they charge you by the usage but they have a flat fee and then it goes into a unit usage after that.
[39:26] I was talking to actually, for disclosure, I'm on the advisory committee for the habitat for humanity
[39:34] and so was Jeff, and she was concerned with the cost that they're expending for construction water and these homes are for people that are knee he and they're giving them to these people.
[39:48] And so I'd like to see us address that either in strategic planning or something.
[39:55] In summary, what you described is our policy, they can come contractor to come to the front desk and they fill out a form, a rental form and they leave a deposit, I think it's $1,500 because it's basically the value of the meter.
[40:11] And then we have a daily charge for the meter rental, plus they pay their usage and the usage cost.
[40:19] Last, actually had a conversation with Barbara about this, is significantly less than what a residential customer pays for water, partly because the infrastructure is kind of a one time use.
[40:32] But we do have that program and we can talk about it in strategic planning and kind of refine it.
[40:39] It has there are other features that we do incorporate like someone's just building a house and they know they're going to have a meter placed.
[40:47] We will allow them to go ahead, set a temporary meter, but it really just becomes the permanent meter, and they'll pay for their water use like inside the house as they're building their homes so they don't actually have to rent a big two inch hydrant meter, especially if the hydrant is way down the street, so we do have a few options available.
[41:08] And part of this I'm talking about is cost as Trinity was telling me what it cost for one unit
[41:12] I couldn't believe it. I can't remember what it is today a bit because a few months ago when I toured it
[41:17] I could not believe it compared to what I'm used to paying used to be playing paying down in the valley as a home builder
[41:22] We mean by one unit one housing unit you mean renting the meter or it was
[41:29] Causing the inflection water to build one housing unit. Maybe the capacity fee that Trinity
[41:34] I think there's some confusion here because it's not a lot of money for
[41:38] renting that meter, it's the deposit, which is to cover the cost of the meter.
[41:44] Because we've had occasions where I've been in cities where they were never
[41:49] returned in their expensive meters.
[41:51] Since the deposit is larger to cover that replacement cost.
[41:55] But when they turn it back in, they get the deposit back.
[41:58] But the actual cost of using that construction water from a hydrant is actually
[42:03] pretty low, typically.
[42:05] Okay.
[42:05] So I'm a little confused why this one particular individual had a high, had a tap for humanity.
[42:12] Yeah.
[42:12] I think hers was set up because she was setting up a house meter.
[42:16] So then it also included the basic monthly charge and had to do her with it.
[42:20] And when you're trying to pressure test your water line and wash some of the things out.
[42:24] So they were looking at is there a way to get a meter set like you were talking about and
[42:29] And then not have all the base charges and everything else during a time period of construction.
[42:33] Yeah, for a six month, I'm going off of our policy now so I believe it's a six month sort of grace period to where you can get this temporary meter and I'm looking at Steve, he's kind of nodding, so I think I'm being accurate.
[42:49] And then it will initiate base charges so if you're construction, you're taking a year and a half to build your dream home, you're gonna have a time there.
[42:57] But I think we should talk about it because I think I have heard this from habitat for humanity before and we need to kind of address it.
[43:06] Maybe you could arrange a meeting with you and we could bring her in here and talk to her.
[43:11] Yeah, I think the part of it's a time it takes to build one of these homes because a lot of their labor is volunteer.
[43:17] I mean, they have doctors from the hospital.
[43:19] They're sheet rocking and various things, you know, and so then I'm building a home and the same time a home builder would build it.
[43:25] So part of it is maybe it maybe it's a provision for low income housing or something like that or I think this is good for
[43:34] Policy examination we can take it offline
[43:36] Fantastic. Hey, bun. Yes. I got something to do. Um, those are duplexes out there too. Um, was she hookin' up?
[43:44] I don't remember. Was she hookin' up both of them? Was she getting rental meters on both of them?
[43:48] You know, I have it's been like six months since I toured it and I was a while back.
[43:54] I'm not sure.
[43:56] Because they're building basically two units, one building, good point.
[44:01] And what we've done, we've done this in the ridges and a few others is they'll pay for a temporary meter and then they'll move it around from lot to lot.
[44:09] That's what we did when I said when I was building homes but this is a totally different situation.
[44:15] Just because it's such a small volume.
[44:16] I suggest we put, we agendaize this.
[44:20] It's a good discussion, it's not on this agenda.
[44:24] And before we go down the road and because, and I had called Eric with some other questions,
[44:29] darn good, good cheap water with this meter and perhaps we need to discuss that as well.
[44:35] So I don't know if it's our strategic plan, there's also another issue about being able to
[44:42] have a tier for low income like Calvary's house.
[44:46] So it's a larger discussion we can agenda.
[44:49] OK, we'll do that, and then if we could bring her in and have a meeting with you,
[44:52] Eric can talk about what her experiences are.
[44:57] Thank you.
[45:01] So, where are we on here? Suggested motion. Okay, I'll do it. I move to adopt the
[45:08] sequa notice of determination and approve the attached agreement regarding
[45:11] construction and transfer of water, main line extension to serve the Eagle Ridge
[45:16] development phase one Edward L. and Carla J. Brown and Christie S. Brown and
[45:22] authorize the general manager to sign all necessary documents. I'll second that.
[45:27] It's been regularly moved and seconded that we adopt regular business number five
[45:33] sequence notice of determination and agreement regarding construction and transfer of water
[45:37] and sewer mainline extensions to serve the Eagle Ridge development phase one for Edward L
[45:42] and Carla J. Brown and Christie S. Brown.
[45:47] All those in favor signify by saying aye.
[45:49] Hi.
[45:50] Is that loud?
[45:54] Next is Budget Status and Financial Report.
[46:01] Good evening again.
[46:03] Um, afternoon.
[46:04] Give me just a minute here to get our new technology here up and running.
[46:10] That
[46:41] one in particular.
[46:42] Often running.
[46:44] So, let me preface this by saying, um, since I learned my lesson from the consent agenda.
[46:52] But this will be the last time you see this format you see this, three months from now,
[47:02] this is going to look different, some way, somehow.
[47:06] And I'm so optimistic it's been a lot of work right now.
[47:11] There's a lot of moving parts, but this new software is just such a tremendous improvement.
[47:17] And our customers are going to see it, and you all are going to see it, and we're seeing it too.
[47:23] So that said, and Jeff, I know this is kind of your first time with the quarterly financials.
[47:28] So please feel free to stop me any time, and even some of you board members may not remember it
[47:34] when it comes out every three months.
[47:35] But this really started about two or three strategic plans back.
[47:40] There was a healthy discussion as to what kind of reports should we be getting.
[47:45] our general manager at that time was rightfully so very concerned about budget
[47:50] actual. You know, as a governmental organization, if we you all adopt a budget, you know, we
[47:58] need to follow that budget. And that's really, you know, kind of our gauge to what we're
[48:02] doing. Obviously, from a day-to-day operation, it's important to keep the water running, but
[48:07] this is really kind of what we did to. So we landed on this budget status report. And it
[48:13] It took this form and that's kind of where we led with it and we've been doing it the
[48:18] same way for a while now.
[48:20] The second part of this, you have two reports in your package.
[48:24] The first one's really the budget status report.
[48:26] The second one is much more a audit financial statement style report.
[48:32] And again, previous board members had more of a business or finance background and really
[48:39] wanted that.
[48:40] Whereas most agencies that stand, you'll audit when you get that style, but you know, I felt I could provide that and satisfy more people, more users.
[48:50] We were also doing it monthly and that was a lot of work and a lot of, you know, what's the board's role? Do they need it monthly?
[48:59] Do you need it for your policymaking? Do you need it to oversight for us? And so the board landed on this quarterly report.
[49:06] So I'm going to go ahead and give you this.
[49:08] When that said, I fully expect the next one to be different, and it's going to look different, feel different, but we'll have more options.
[49:16] We may go to multiple reports instead of these just two.
[49:19] We may need less.
[49:20] I don't know.
[49:21] We'll just kind of see how it goes with that.
[49:23] So I'll go ahead and go through this one, and I will remind the board, other than Jeff, that this is identical to what we have been doing for a number of years now.
[49:33] So to start with, I kind of summarized it again.
[49:38] We've prepared this budget status report and financial report for
[49:42] the second quarter ending December 31, 2018.
[49:46] The budget status report highlights the district's actual performance against budget.
[49:51] And the financial report includes a statement of net position,
[49:55] a statement of revenues, expenses, and changes in position.
[49:59] And a statement of cash flows.
[50:02] So what I have on the screen here in your packet, it's actually two separate pages, one for water and one for sewer, two tables and there's some graphs below it.
[50:12] So for purposes of our discussion, I combine those so we can show them side by side on here.
[50:21] The budget status report provides information relative to both water and sewer funds.
[50:27] In this case, you can see the highlighted items up here, revenue-succeeded budget by $299,000 in the water fund.
[50:35] And we're below budget by $136,000 in the sewer fund.
[50:39] Operational expenditures were under budget by $209,000 and $91,000 for the water and
[50:45] funds respectively. The water fund expended $1.9 million for capital projects and $153,000 for debt
[50:53] principal payments. The sewer fund expended $557,000 for capital projects and $98,000 for debt
[51:02] principal payments. I'll jump ahead. We can always come back. Really, what I want to point out here is
[51:09] I just had a quick question on that page.
[51:13] The, your little chart at the bottom where it says percent of capital assets depreciated
[51:17] is, you know, going a larger amount of, is that because we're, is that just a function
[51:24] of the fact that we have older infrastructure, that there's less being depreciated or
[51:28] what?
[51:29] Yeah.
[51:30] And, and again, I don't refer those charts a lot, I don't include them here, but those
[51:35] or what, typically in a for-profit business, our key ratio indexes, and again we had one
[51:42] board member, those were the kind of ones they really wanted to see, and you can see
[51:47] the trend on there, some of them, our cash position has been improving, our capital assets
[51:53] are aging, you know, our infrastructure, basically as we invest and reinvest, that's kind of
[51:59] what those graphs show.
[52:00] So there hasn't been anything in those graphs, I say, well, look, I really need to show
[52:04] You guys, these graphs right now, but that's what it refers to.
[52:09] All right, so then the last slide again, it's just two slides short and sweet and we can
[52:14] talk about whatever we need to, but this is kind of the listing of what I was referring
[52:18] to other of the audit style financial reports.
[52:21] There's essentially three main statements.
[52:24] The terminology is very much government-oriented statement in that position in a real, you know,
[52:29] the private sector think balance sheet, the second one statement of revenues, expenses,
[52:34] and changes in net position. That's really an income statement, and then the last one statements
[52:39] of cash flow is pretty much what it says. So if you look at those financials, and again,
[52:44] all the numbers are for the first six months of the fiscal year. The first quarter financials
[52:49] noted an increase of 1.5 million in cash, a decrease in intergovernmental receivables of 800,000,
[52:57] a decrease in prepaid expenses of $498,000 and a decrease in advances from the sewer fund of $1.3 million.
[53:07] The net income from operations after depreciation was $1.4 million with a net income of $3 million before depreciation.
[53:15] Net non-operating revenue was $576,000 and capital revenue was $864,000.
[53:22] Now, that said, I guess, kind of my, I feel my role or my input to the board, my summary
[53:31] of the board is that we have an adopted budget for fiscal year 19, we have an adopted
[53:35] budget for fiscal year 20, your ad, our GM has referred several times, the part of strategic
[53:41] planning will be to analyze that budget, review it, and look at next year's budget for sure.
[53:47] But I really kind of see my role to point out to the board that when I look at this and I say we're 4%
[53:54] basically
[53:56] Overrevenue is over budget for operation revenue and we're under budget by 4% to mean for six months time
[54:03] We're right on track
[54:04] So from my perspective and my responsibilities
[54:07] I really feel that that the budget we have in place is still relevant. It's still on track
[54:13] I don't see any significant changes that I'm recommend at this time.
[54:17] We're obviously still a little prospective, as far as what's going to project between now and the end of the year.
[54:24] Whether like we had the last week or two kind of affects that as well as y'all are aware of.
[54:29] But I think for most of you, you've seen my quarterly reports before, you know what went into the budget here.
[54:35] So I'm happy to answer any questions you might have.
[54:40] Anybody have any questions?
[54:43] Steve?
[54:45] Okay.
[54:47] Any comments from the public?
[54:51] Okay.
[54:55] Next, Steve.
[54:56] Awesome.
[54:56] Thank you.
[54:58] You shouldn't change the format, Steve.
[55:00] Yeah.
[55:02] Ron loves it.
[55:03] Well, I like the results.
[55:05] To me, the results are more important than the format.
[55:08] I think it does depict the situation.
[55:10] But, you know, it definitely is a good snapshot.
[55:13] I get summary for the board and I feel comfortable
[55:15] and in that's what's really going on.
[55:18] I'm going to start the presentation for the next item.
[55:22] It's on, it's okay with that, right?
[55:25] You need a new motion for this one to accept the vote.
[55:28] Yeah, is there a motion?
[55:30] I move that we accept and file this report.
[55:32] I'll second that.
[55:33] It's been ready to move in seconded
[55:34] that we accept this report as filed.
[55:39] Red presented.
[55:43] All those in favor, signify by saying aye.
[55:45] Aye.
[55:47] That's unanimous.
[55:50] Thank you, Steve.
[55:51] Thank you.
[55:51] Thank you, Steve.
[55:52] Very nice.
[56:01] Carol's not even here for this.
[56:03] I was waiting for Carol to be here.
[56:08] Okay, let's go into staff reports.
[56:10] So while staff is preparing the presentation,
[56:14] Just for your board's sake, the winter storms have been quite challenging for staff to continue to provide services during very extreme events.
[56:27] I wanted to do a little more for this presentation than just go through the typical staff reports you've seen in the past that are just an oral recitation or summary of what's going on.
[56:42] and I actually wanted you to see some images
[56:45] because they're so powerful.
[56:47] So to that end, I called Don and said,
[56:52] Don, I want some information.
[56:54] And on quickly provided that information,
[56:57] I thought it was very good.
[56:58] And then I worked with Lisa to pull this presentation together.
[57:03] It's not going to take much time,
[57:04] but I think this presentation is going to be
[57:08] very informative for your board.
[57:09] I have some serious concerns about what we're doing out there during these types of events and I think it really paints a picture that I think is going to eliminate and educate our discussion during strategic planning with so with that I'm going to hand it over to our operations manager to walk through this presentation.
[57:30] Okay.
[57:31] Thank you.
[57:32] Dawn?
[57:33] Hello.
[57:33] Thank you.
[57:37] I just got to say, you know, I've many have heard me say this before and I'll just say
[57:43] it here.
[57:43] I really just love working here.
[57:45] This is a challenge.
[57:46] It's stimulating.
[57:47] And this weekend was just that.
[57:50] This past week has been very challenging.
[57:52] Very stimulating.
[57:53] Those of you who know me, you know I coach football or with an assistant coach football for
[57:58] 30 years and at the end of that, each one of those years, you hope you're playing a team
[58:02] like central Catholic and the finals and we're coming to work here every day, it's like
[58:06] you're in young for central Catholic.
[58:10] I just love this so to speak.
[58:19] What has happened here the last few days is not new, it has happened many times over the
[58:25] years.
[58:25] Some of the faces of these pictures are new, the fact that we might actually be able to bring this to you in this format is new, but you've heard me up here before talking about such events.
[58:35] So, this was one, and I wanted a presentation, and Lisa was gracious enough to give me a lot of support, but I'll help.
[58:47] In the midst of all of this chaos, I'm suddenly talking to my superintendents and
[58:52] informants asking for all the pictures and information and so they're a little
[58:55] bit frustrated with me because they got a shovel and now somehow they want me
[58:59] to go get a picture. They did what they could. So we go. So first and foremost starting
[59:09] out the biggest impact seemingly are to our ditches, our raw water system.
[59:17] This
[59:17] number of trees taken down in all those ditches, section 4,
[59:21] Eureka, Solesbyville, Upper Columbia, the Grayson back, the trees,
[59:25] anyways, was the shaw's flat with 20, or the grand total of 73,
[59:30] but I'm interested that that number's growing as we speak.
[59:34] Don, were those typically live oaks that, or, you know,
[59:39] a cross section, depending on what elevation you're talking about,
[59:42] up above and twang hard, it's more,
[59:44] We're paying fines that the download is certainly this is the oaks
[59:49] Down at the bottom talks about multiple call outs over time worked in the past week on
[59:55] Average you know Eric can you drive I drive him nuts when I ask this question about how much you walk per day
[1:00:00] And, you know, he just threw out that number and just an average of nine to 12 miles of walking. And that's not a leisurely walk. Just no, that's not a leisurely walk. And you'll see what I mean by that. So in that picture, you can see that tree down the snow and debris building up behind that tree, preventing the water from coming through coming down. So there's a little glimpse of what it's like to try to remove that snow out of the ditch.
[1:00:28] That's Tyler Hock at he is actually in our distribution department not in our raw water
[1:00:34] department but when the college is there you got a response and he was willing to go
[1:00:40] out there and work and work hard he did.
[1:00:43] That's a section 4 ditch you know they're above 20 hour.
[1:00:49] This is all the way down the Roaches ditch you know downstream of the 12 meter plant where
[1:00:54] you'll see oaks that was down in the ditch.
[1:01:00] They can't handle the snow.
[1:01:01] Now they can't.
[1:01:02] The more trees of the road is ditched with other trees and it's not a big branch.
[1:01:06] All that has to get mucked out of there because you've got to hike in there with chain
[1:01:10] saws and what in hand tools, cut these trees out of the ditch and get them up on the bank.
[1:01:16] There's not a lot of, there's no way to get a piece of equipment, like a truck with a
[1:01:21] wind or anything like that in most cases.
[1:01:23] This is just hike in there, get it done.
[1:01:28] This is the lower soul we build ditch and it took me a little while I had to ask Eric what exact am I looking at here so
[1:01:35] So that's a piece of
[1:01:36] Gunite ditch there, and it looks like a hole
[1:01:41] Here and I thought when make the water was eroding this out and Eric said no, no, but you can't see
[1:01:46] Is this a tree was here and it uprooted?
[1:01:50] It's laying over here in the deal
[1:01:52] So we're got to go back as soon as we can and get that that section of
[1:01:57] Ditch and they got night repaired look it didn't take out the whole darn ditch
[1:02:01] there then yes we are without a different problem with our hand I don't
[1:02:06] believe in luck but yes luck is we're opportunity and preparation come
[1:02:16] together there you go I don't think it was a date that one
[1:02:22] Sounds like a football day to 1985 or something.
[1:02:29] Eureka Ditch and Twain Art rose and over and then cleaned up.
[1:02:36] Looks like a little before and after.
[1:02:41] Tyler again walking in the ditch.
[1:02:43] This sort of work, you know, it's hard.
[1:02:45] It's hard for me to explain honestly.
[1:02:47] This is one of the few things I just have never done.
[1:02:49] I've never had the opportunity to luxury to actually do this sort of work here.
[1:02:54] And I've had to explain to me over and over how it works.
[1:02:57] But until you really get there and see this in hand, first hand, you probably don't get the idea.
[1:03:02] But by hook or by hook, you've got to use the water behind, get the water to you behind you.
[1:03:08] Physically shovel this snow and ice out of a ditch where you can.
[1:03:13] Chop up, get the water, and then multiply it, and then try and walk it down.
[1:03:18] I think in this picture here, what you see is the water got so high that it overtops the burn.
[1:03:24] And they used that to their advantage to try and spill some water and then do some work-down
[1:03:31] stream.
[1:03:38] Or pictures, Eureka, Twainhart, Float and Snow.
[1:03:46] So that was sort of the impacts to the ditch crew.
[1:03:51] To the tree of water crew, you know, we experienced power outages all over the place.
[1:03:55] Sonora, Columbia, Big Hill, Wall, and Ponderosa was probably the worst hit.
[1:04:01] But when we start losing power way down in Sonora and all the way up to Big Hill Unclip,
[1:04:08] we really stretch all of our resources, generators, just thin.
[1:04:13] But so not only do we lose power in a lot of cases, we also lost our SCADA issue this time.
[1:04:20] And you know, we rely on our SCADA system to start and stop pumps and controls, right?
[1:04:26] So in some cases tanks stopped filling and other cases tanks continued to fill when they didn't need to fill.
[1:04:33] So we have to deploy all our people all over the place just to go put eyes on these tanks and these pump stations, lift stations, things to make sure things running properly.
[1:04:44] In a lot of cases we just didn't have enough generators so we had to go rent three generators.
[1:04:48] This happens to be hours and we just bought this one this year.
[1:04:51] But we had to go rent three others to deploy everywhere to make these work.
[1:04:57] This picture is in Can you view street road in Ponderosa Hills.
[1:05:02] It's about a mile or so from Twalmy Road to this spot which we had to plow just to get
[1:05:07] here.
[1:05:08] This, Pug station feeds the Rainbow Reservoir on top of the hill which feeds Mule or subdivision
[1:05:14] which also didn't have power.
[1:05:16] So lots of people out of water because it's like a packed generation.
[1:05:27] The distribution team, their impacts are a little bit different, a little bit delayed.
[1:05:32] You know, after the big snow then came and came in the freeze, right?
[1:05:37] And different customers had different problems with their household plumbing and freezing.
[1:05:42] You have them to turn off and turn on water for repairs.
[1:05:45] They did help the treated water guys checking out their tanks and manually going to places
[1:05:52] and controlling valve or ordinarily use power or scan it to do so the distribution team
[1:05:57] really chipped in and helped out.
[1:06:00] One of those items up there is a standpipe was hit by a car or whatever and was blown water
[1:06:06] all over the place.
[1:06:10] Construction maintenance crews were very instrumental.
[1:06:14] They kind of have to stop doing everything they're doing to assist.
[1:06:17] They did an awful lot of plowing for us.
[1:06:19] I asked Dennis to give me a number of miles after the fact
[1:06:22] and he laughed at me and says, a lot, not a year.
[1:06:25] I could go out there and redrive and you'd tell me
[1:06:27] how many miles I was, that's a lot.
[1:06:30] But it's a couple of hundred miles in a plowing.
[1:06:34] And what you're seeing here is, so this is my picture.
[1:06:37] I actually took this picture.
[1:06:38] I had to go up there somewhere in this repair
[1:06:41] of that status station at that tank.
[1:06:43] And I just knew I was gonna have to
[1:06:45] It was about a three-quarter mile walk from the road to that tank, and I just knew I was going to have to walk that two-foot of snow, and I got there and it was plowed for me, so it's pretty nice.
[1:06:55] Not to mention the right in the middle of this, we had a six-inch mainline break into wall.
[1:07:00] I mean, the worst of the weather that the crews had to respond to.
[1:07:03] They had to stop doing what they were doing and go deal with this mainline break.
[1:07:10] 25 facilities, they plowed.
[1:07:12] I would like to ask a quick question.
[1:07:14] Hey, Don.
[1:07:15] So, Don, in these low elevation snows that we have when a line breaks like that, is it
[1:07:23] because it freezes and it's underground?
[1:07:26] Or coincidence?
[1:07:27] It's just coincidence.
[1:07:28] It's just one of the 300 we're going to have each year, happen to be adjourned on the storm.
[1:07:33] I have to do it the weather.
[1:07:34] Excuse me.
[1:07:35] Thank you.
[1:07:36] Thank you.
[1:07:37] That answer my question.
[1:07:38] Okay.
[1:07:38] Okay. Good question. Two questions. One.
[1:07:42] I think I would have failed to mention is they were instrumental in keeping all of those
[1:07:46] diesel generators fueled, moving them around from spot to spot, you know, that's what
[1:07:52] they kind of drop what they're doing and help us out in that regard. And while I'm on generators,
[1:07:58] I'll just mention this. Why don't you have generators everywhere? Well, because, you know, we have
[1:08:04] so many facilities, dozens and dozens of facilities that were near some sort of power.
[1:08:12] But one generator we do have, up in the ponderosa system, I'm pointing at the confidence
[1:08:16] bit, up in the ponderosa system, we do have a generator at the ponderosa.
[1:08:19] I'm just going to give you a little story about this one.
[1:08:21] This generator.
[1:08:21] Well, I didn't know this, tell you the other day.
[1:08:24] So it failed on us.
[1:08:25] We lost power, crews went up to go start this generator so we could run the plant.
[1:08:30] Not knowing we didn't have water in the ditch anyway, but at the time, we're just going
[1:08:34] to fire this generator? Well, the generator blew up. The motor on the generator blew up. Well,
[1:08:38] frustrating, right? We do weekly and monthly checks on these generators to make sure they run
[1:08:43] where we need them. Of course, when you need them, this thing's gonna blow up. So, as I was asking,
[1:08:46] well, what's the problem with the generators? Well, the problem, Don, is that's of 1970 something
[1:08:50] generate that we wasn't good enough for a sewer list station in the 80s or 90s. And so, we moved up
[1:08:54] to Ponderosa Hills, and we bought that system. I said, thanks for the... Anyway, so that's kind of
[1:09:00] the disgruntled dawn generator discussion.
[1:09:04] So what is a typical generator cost?
[1:09:09] A lot.
[1:09:12] It depends on the song.
[1:09:14] $30,000 portable one, and that's not that's an inexpensive $30,000.
[1:09:19] The gentleman that was speaking in the beginning to get a generator that would operate
[1:09:23] his facility for those 12 units, what size generator approximately and what cost would that be?
[1:09:28] It would probably be about 25 to 30,000, not including the installation, and that includes the transfer switch and everything.
[1:09:36] Those diesel generators like that that are trailer mounted, they're $35 to $50,000.
[1:09:44] And that would be one of dozens of facilities, okay.
[1:09:52] So part of the problem too I think with that one that that gentleman was talking about was that that's a pretty pretty good lift for that pump station. I mean, and when you only have 12 people up there overcome 115 pounds of pressure to get to that.
[1:10:11] And it's a single phase or a poorly designed system that we inherited somehow.
[1:10:17] I don't know how we inherited what we did and we've been fighting it literally every year since.
[1:10:25] So, you know, we know all about them, we know it's frustrating.
[1:10:30] Back when it was a functioning dentist office and that thing would go down in July, you know, it's frustrating.
[1:10:37] And we understand it's frustrating to those customers.
[1:10:40] But the TWSSOP answers many of these questions.
[1:10:45] And so we're just hoping and having
[1:10:47] hoping for years and years when you get to a point
[1:10:49] in this TWSSOP, we can start answering some of these questions
[1:10:52] appropriately.
[1:10:53] You're using gravity to the best we can,
[1:10:56] but in Cedar Rocks, one of them.
[1:11:00] Where we've looked at some things like with that sewer line,
[1:11:03] that's coming down from Tweenheart,
[1:11:05] that we may have to do a district, you know, around there where everybody contributes
[1:11:11] to help solve their problem, you know, I'm wondering if some of these smaller neighborhoods
[1:11:17] would be willing to put some sort of service district in place to solve their problem.
[1:11:23] That's a good question.
[1:11:24] That's a good question.
[1:11:27] So another part of our service that was impact was our collection system, that list station
[1:11:33] is the Apple Valley list station and it seems to be when we have severe weather, this list
[1:11:39] station gets impacted. Whoever's taken this picture's back is near Chicken Creek and
[1:11:47] it swells. And over the years, you can see the water line. The list station just goes underwater.
[1:11:57] And so we have a plan to get it repaired but it lost power. It's back up
[1:12:04] Generator we put a new generator in there last year. It failed another used one. So we had to rent a generator bring it there
[1:12:11] Of course, we had to plow our way there. It looks flat, but that's a pretty steep driveway from where they are up to
[1:12:17] Whatever drive that is up there. So
[1:12:20] Yeah
[1:12:21] that. So your collection boys were busy as well out all hours the night checking
[1:12:25] list stations because we had no power, didn't have power everywhere and checking
[1:12:29] list stations. I'll put them down. You know what they can make sure and and the
[1:12:34] greatest bullet right that the collection system did not experience any storm related
[1:12:38] SSOs or any SSOs period storm related not. So that was good everyone know what that
[1:12:46] is? Sentry sewer overflow. Which water treatment plant? Now that's an unusual
[1:12:52] picture for them for sure. Three to four or five inches of snow. They weathered
[1:12:58] the storm pretty well. Their inflows did double. It's typically 1.2, maybe 1.4 or
[1:13:06] five this time of year, but it's it's well the 2.8 which the plant handled pretty
[1:13:11] well considering we spent three or four hundred thousand dollars in the last few years on improving
[1:13:16] how draw-action the plants of it performed pretty well. The twenty-hour waste-large
[1:13:21] driven plant also lost power and it flows doubled as well. But with some work, people stand
[1:13:29] being up the plant, the twenty-hour plant where we're able to keep that plant going along pretty
[1:13:33] well.
[1:13:35] We're left in Portis Reservoir is doing pretty good. I have a quick one. I wish the gentleman
[1:13:42] someone that was here could have stayed for this because it's really informative.
[1:13:47] I mean, what he has is a very common problem.
[1:13:50] And when the electricity goes out all over the county,
[1:13:55] well, it makes me glad I have my landline phone, you know, because then I can call and see if people are okay.
[1:14:01] And so it is, it's a, like I said, when it's low level snow, we have problems we never anticipated.
[1:14:07] Right.
[1:14:09] Right.
[1:14:10] Gone.
[1:14:11] On, could you tell the board and everyone else, you mentioned the Twainheart sewer plant.
[1:14:24] And could you please tell us how old it is, be where it's located, and why you kind of
[1:14:35] it over. You made it sound like it was a big deal but to have some guys were gals up there
[1:14:41] trying to keep that thing operating. I don't know how in the world they even got there.
[1:14:48] How the plant got there? Well I don't want to go there.
[1:14:53] I'm talking about the crew to be able to keep the thing running. Right it's both difficult.
[1:15:00] This isn't new. I don't know, eight years ago, we didn't have flowers. Today, we have two of our own flowers. Eight years ago, we would just simply walk in. We'd drive as far as chain up all four tires, drive as far as you can, put in five gallon buckets, all the parts and tools you need and walk the rest of the way to that plant because you got to do something. The plant's not running. You can't, you have to respond.
[1:15:24] but that's a steep, nasty dirt road. Chuck holes, I don't know. And then it's going to have
[1:15:32] three feet of snow or better on it. Hey, man. Where is it? It's a twain heart. I mean,
[1:15:38] it is. It's not a city. I mean, oh, you're right. It's behind the, it's behind the lake. You know,
[1:15:45] it's down gradient of twain heart. If you were to walk north of the, from the rocket twain heart,
[1:15:50] is walk due north, you'll run into this plant.
[1:15:54] It's a two or a bench.
[1:15:55] All of the Twin Art CSD's effluent sewer
[1:15:58] raw sewage flows by gravity to the,
[1:16:02] I'm pointing at the regional plant,
[1:16:03] to the Twin Art Wissar treatment plant,
[1:16:05] where we do some preliminary treatment there,
[1:16:08] and then it goes into our intercepted damage control.
[1:16:11] I don't know, there's probably 30 acres,
[1:16:14] 25, 30 acres with the plant.
[1:16:16] The treatment plant was built in the late 50s and 60s and it's been basically in my opinion a state of a
[1:16:24] rest of decay ever since. In the 70s, during the regionalization, somehow that
[1:16:35] That asset was transferred over from 12 kind of waters to number one to what ends up being TUD.
[1:16:45] And honestly, you know, I'll just tell you, it hasn't had a lot of attention paid to it like it should have.
[1:16:52] So it's in a bad way.
[1:16:54] So that's not part of the CFD up there.
[1:16:56] CSD.
[1:16:56] It is not. It is UD.
[1:16:59] That's really unusual, isn't it?
[1:17:00] I'm sure we'd be happy to give it back.
[1:17:02] Yeah, I bet you would.
[1:17:04] Any motion?
[1:17:05] No, I just did.
[1:17:09] In a CSD can do wastewater.
[1:17:12] They can?
[1:17:13] They can.
[1:17:14] Oh, they can?
[1:17:15] Yes.
[1:17:16] Well, these days, all of you should get all up there
[1:17:18] to the 20-hour wastewater treatment plant.
[1:17:20] We'll go have a lunch.
[1:17:23] So here in summary, here's the, you know,
[1:17:26] what we, the best we can do as far as telling you
[1:17:29] sort of the, some of the impacts to, you know, call outs,
[1:17:33] You know roughly 30 call outs 190 hours of time and a half half hour double time
[1:17:39] Which I question that half hour double time because I know I called somebody out just Sunday for a couple of hours
[1:17:44] So I don't think that's exactly right it but
[1:17:48] That's the made it 200 miles if somebody said no Donald was 350
[1:17:51] I would not argue with them if they said it was 50 I'd argue because I know where I called it 50
[1:17:56] By himself
[1:17:59] I'll take responsibility on one after the fact that said I wanted a quantification of everything because the reason why I think this presentation is important is it goes beyond just the images it lays out some of the facts about what it takes to be able to get through the severe events.
[1:18:18] We already have, as you can see, an aged system.
[1:18:23] And unfortunately, a lot of these old,
[1:18:27] they weren't even built right to begin with.
[1:18:30] Then you combine that with age and inappropriate maintenance.
[1:18:35] And then handed the TUD to now operate,
[1:18:39] which typically, utility sometimes do inherit old systems,
[1:18:43] but when you do, you take those systems
[1:18:48] and you make sure that they are upgraded to the standards and specs of the utility.
[1:18:54] In these cases, it's never been done.
[1:18:56] The ratepayers that were originally responsible for those became to you D.
[1:19:01] So what we have is a collection of many, many systems that are aged,
[1:19:06] weren't built right, then you combine these huge storms.
[1:19:11] It's an extremely complex system to operate as you can see.
[1:19:14] It's already difficult and good weather days.
[1:19:17] you combine these inclement weather, serious weather events, these are huge risky operations.
[1:19:26] And yeah, it would have been good if the individual that was here earlier could have seen this.
[1:19:31] I think the reason I asked for this was the amazing job that our field crews did to keep everything basically up and running.
[1:19:39] But I also wanted to emphasize the riskiness of those ditches at the higher elevations.
[1:19:48] I would love to get past the point where they're having to do that.
[1:19:52] They just keep water going to the water treatment plants.
[1:19:54] And this kind of lends itself to the story of the regional water treatment plants or upper and lower basin.
[1:20:02] I've been talking to staff, we have some ideas about how we might be able to expedite that and
[1:20:07] and ways to try to keep the guys from getting up there to have to shovel snow and ice.
[1:20:12] Because to me, that is a very risky operation.
[1:20:16] I know it's been going on for a long time, and I think it speaks well of the safety program here.
[1:20:21] And the guys watching out for one another that we haven't had a tragic accident.
[1:20:26] Because when I see those pictures, I got my risk management hat on and hate to see any of that.
[1:20:32] But a great presentation, very thankful for that, but I also wanted to emphasize the snow plowing.
[1:20:41] That is not a TUD responsibility.
[1:20:44] We do that because we got to keep the water and sewer going, right?
[1:20:48] And I'm a little concerned, I think I heard from county staff, they had staff but no snow
[1:20:56] plows, right?
[1:20:57] Would they have like one?
[1:20:59] One of their staff told me.
[1:21:01] They're just very short on equipment, and many counties, especially where we have snow every year.
[1:21:10] Now, obviously, it went to a much lower elevation, but if we're snowplowing 2, 3, 400 miles, and I don't
[1:21:20] know if this is an annual event, or if it's just because of this epic snow system, but we need to work
[1:21:27] better with the county, or the county needs to work with us to help us keep these roads open to these critical assets and facilities that keeps the quality of life for our families all over the 12th of the county.
[1:21:40] Barb.
[1:21:41] Yeah, I noticed at the same time PG&E was out in force, they were out all day, I mean during the whole, I was hearing chainsaws on 49, just to, they had to use all kinds of things just to get into an area just to.
[1:21:56] you know, big, big poles were being, you know, they are, and that's a lot of
[1:22:02] expense to keep those kinds of that kind of equipment on standby. I know I tried
[1:22:08] to get out of my driveway, I was all dressed up, and then I had turned around,
[1:22:11] go get my chainsaw, and just buck up this ginormous limb that just, you know,
[1:22:16] buck through that aside, and then was able to go, I kept my chainsaw on my cars.
[1:22:26] I
[1:22:26] You know, sometimes it like I wish PG need would bury their lines, you know, but you're never it's never done
[1:22:32] But what I heard from you is
[1:22:34] not even a sense of complaining just the
[1:22:39] camaraderie and that you got to do what you got to do you got to quite the opposite
[1:22:42] They're committed. They're not gonna fail. Yeah, it's incredible. They're not gonna fail
[1:22:48] Don did you say they the average maintenance ditch maintenance crew walks 9 to 12 miles a day through that snow
[1:22:56] that's amazing. Some walk more, some walk less. Depending on the storm, you know. One time, you know, there's, you know, there's been worst storms in this greater impacts to our ditches than this one. This one was just a good classic ones.
[1:23:11] The first time we were to capture it and bring it to you. I really want to get you there. It's not a possible Ed said to me.
[1:23:19] I don't know, a few nights, you know, I'm working on a bunch of dates and a couple nights
[1:23:22] ago, you know, I had not about to leave here at five o'clock and I said, yeah, I think
[1:23:27] the districts are going to wrap it up, it's going to get dark on and it goes, well, they're
[1:23:30] so out there, I said, yeah, I said, well, can we go see them? I said, no, we can't.
[1:23:35] We're no shake to go see those. I was ready to go.
[1:23:44] Any other questions or comments from
[1:23:46] the board? Could we just suggest as your board considers your comments that considering what
[1:23:53] I would suggest is Call of Duty above and beyond the typical requirements there's some
[1:24:01] kind of formal recognition. I don't know what it would look like. I don't even know who
[1:24:05] we would recommend, but I think that there's something that perhaps might be done that could
[1:24:11] to include a press release, so I know PG&E was out there, other utilities, but I wanted
[1:24:17] this presentation to your board because they did a lot of work and they do it quietly
[1:24:22] and they probably don't even want to be recognized or noticed, but I want to make sure that
[1:24:27] people hear about the work that was done.
[1:24:30] So I don't have any answers about what I would suggest, but maybe we can think about it.
[1:24:34] Resolution?
[1:24:35] Yeah.
[1:24:37] So any questions or comments from the audience and we have a storm tonight, so it's not
[1:24:40] Not over yet.
[1:24:41] This baby's not over for sure.
[1:24:45] I'm fine with that recommendation, so come back with some ideas and be glad to hear it.
[1:24:55] We'll move on to Director's Communications and Reports.
[1:24:58] Barbara, would you like to start?
[1:24:59] Sure.
[1:25:01] Let's see.
[1:25:01] On January 25th, there was the Mount County Water Resources Association back here for their
[1:25:07] board meeting.
[1:25:07] And I want to thank those that are from our board that sat in and at least got to know who the folks were and that was great.
[1:25:17] You know, we didn't have to drive three hours.
[1:25:18] I appreciate you guys taking some time out and being there.
[1:25:22] I think you were there, I'm off you were there.
[1:25:24] But be right.
[1:25:24] I was the board of supervisors in the session.
[1:25:28] Then I didn't attend this, but on Monday that January 28 was the laugh co.
[1:25:33] But I do believe that our request to participate or something like that was submitted and so they are moving forward, even though I don't think any of us were able to attend that, and that may be it, you can speak on that.
[1:25:50] And then on January 31st, I met with John Kingsbury down in Davis.
[1:25:55] We met, we had an appointment with the folks at the NRCS and that's the national resources conservation service to look at their private land stewardship, private public land stewardship programs and to help them get the word out so that land owners can benefit in tree mortality, fuel reduction and things like that.
[1:26:22] So, got to know some of those guys there at Davis, and that's all I have to report.
[1:26:27] Thank you. Right?
[1:26:29] Yeah, at the end of January, I was at the Board of Supervisors.
[1:26:33] Car road effort was talking about the county idea of doing the fire safety kickoff.
[1:26:39] So I wanted to see what their ideas were for that and how that might impact TUD.
[1:26:44] So I was attending that, and then also on January 25th, I wasn't able to attend mountain counties,
[1:26:49] because I went to the wrap-up of the Board of Supervisors visioning session with the new,
[1:26:53] two new board members of where they were setting their goals for the year and one of the things
[1:26:58] they mentioned was they definitely wanted to do a combined meeting with the Board of Supervisors
[1:27:03] and the TUD Board to look at overall visioning things. So I think we're working on setting that up
[1:27:08] after we come, we put some of our ideas together with the vision. I met with General Manager
[1:27:13] at Paterson to talk on our monthly meeting and then I was also at the fire safety county kickoff meeting that had all the people that were going to be involved in going forward with looking at their number one priority that they set up for the county fire safety and they had everybody there from all the emergency services people to the fire department to everybody else there there was probably 30 people sitting around that table for the initial kickoff meeting and that was there as well.
[1:27:43] So they'll be more of that to report in the future.
[1:27:47] Thank you.
[1:27:48] Yeah.
[1:27:51] Yeah, I was at the January 22nd immediately following our last board meeting here.
[1:27:57] I went down to City Hall for the.
[1:27:59] They were talking about vision Sonora and whatnot.
[1:28:03] And I've just wondered if we had any conversation with them on how any of their improvements might.
[1:28:08] might affect UD. I know they're doing extensive work down there. They're planning on it and it just occurred to me as I was there.
[1:28:17] There was the road closure. It was the name of that one street there where the Snorah Tap Room is.
[1:28:24] I had our district engineer talk to the city engineer make sure that whatever is done, there's no impact of facilities.
[1:28:32] And we don't believe there is, so we're in constant communication.
[1:28:36] Okay, good.
[1:28:36] City of Snora.
[1:28:37] Yeah, cool.
[1:28:39] And also, that really an official one, but Super Bowl breakfast, Eric was there, did a good job on representing PUD, and handling the Raffle prizes, so did a good job, Eric, and raised a lot of money, good for you guys.
[1:28:55] Thank you.
[1:28:58] Okay, just something to go along with what Director Kerns was talking about with that vision Sonora one thing that's concerned me that I'd really like you to keep an eye on is they're talking about putting in some
[1:29:16] And with all that old waste lines that are in that area, I think that there should be some sort of bulletproof way that people can't flush stuff down that's going to cause us grief because I can just see that coming.
[1:29:35] That's been a concern of mine for probably a good three years now.
[1:29:40] So, okay, first of all, I want to thank GM Paterson and Don for that, I think that was really great report.
[1:29:53] I'll just say this, that back in 2012, I had, when I was out.
[1:30:00] I'm not touring all of the facilities that TUD has. I actually thought that I wanted to go out with a ditch crew and walk it during one of these storms, but it 72 years young, I think I'm not going to do that.
[1:30:21] Okay.
[1:30:21] Okay, on January 24th, I attended the Twin Heart CSD Board meeting and addressed and discussed the situation on going about fire water drafting points or what's not happening with fire water drafting points on the 25th, I attended participated in the Mountain Counties Water Resources Association Board meeting.
[1:30:45] I was there as the new chairman of the legislative committee overhaul and the ideas that we're coming up to try and get that rolling on February 7th, the 10th of the Mountain Counties, Water Resources Association meeting to help in the possible formation of a new associate member advisory committee for information sharing and advice.
[1:31:15] to be given to the executive director for processing to the board of directors and
[1:31:21] or appropriate committees for further review and action.
[1:31:25] So what that's all about is trying to get ideas from the quote unquote business community
[1:31:32] that are associate members to mountain counties.
[1:31:37] and then a final thought or two. I contacted our GM last week.
[1:31:48] I came in here to the office but
[1:31:51] I didn't see him but we caught each other out in the parking lot and then again yesterday I put
[1:31:57] in a call to find out how the crew fared. I mean I was really concerned. The F was a pretty darn good
[1:32:05] snowstorm and I was really concerned that some of you might get hurt or or anything like that.
[1:32:11] So when I asked our GM the other day how our crew members fared with a diff system doing
[1:32:17] the snowstorm he said all went pretty well. I was concerned if anyone had been injured and he said no
[1:32:23] which I was glad to hear. I don't think I speak just for myself but I'll say personally that I am proud
[1:32:31] of our TUD crew members that do such an awesome job keeping our water flowing even in harsh weather like we just experienced.
[1:32:42] PG&E could probably learn a few things from our crew.
[1:32:46] I also want to thank our GM, Mr. Paterson, for his care and of consideration for our crew members
[1:32:56] by having made the decision to authorize and provide the crew members with quality foul weather gear for their safety, health, and as much comfort as possible while performing the tough job that they have.
[1:33:10] A decision in action or past GM just couldn't seem to make as he only authorized mediocre gear.
[1:33:18] Thank you for carrying GM Paterson.
[1:33:23] That's all we got.
[1:33:25] I too met with our General Manager Ed to discuss the agenda as all past
[1:33:30] presence is done. And I decided to go start going to the county Water Advisory Committee meeting
[1:33:36] so I was going to my first meeting the other day and I was advised that they were up having
[1:33:40] their retreat up at Highway 120 so I didn't make that so I'll make the next one hopefully.
[1:33:47] Other than that, we'll now have a close session and I will read the description.
[1:33:52] Conference of Real Property Negotiators, pursuant to government code section 54956.8, property
[1:34:00] APN 085-050-001 at all, agency negotiators Ed Paterson, general manager Jesse Barton and
[1:34:11] Tom Johnson, other party to negotiations Mike Schnoner, Pacific Gas and Electric under negotiation
[1:34:19] price in terms of payment. With that, we will close to closed session.