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[0:00] Accounts type of work session. I think in my 20 years of service with the city test list, I can only think of three or four times
[0:07] three kind of work session. So I certainly believe that indicates the importance of the issue we're going to be discussing today.
[0:15] Before I get started, I do want to thank a lot of our team members who had a part of this very comprehensive recommendation. You'll see over the next couple hours.
[0:24] I can't thank enough, my partner, and the work of him and Bill Butler, and I have
[0:29] sent in to hear anything.
[0:32] It's hard for us to take all of the amount of data and information and condensate
[0:37] to PowerPoint slides and just to use slides.
[0:41] They had the indeed able to ask, trying to do that.
[0:44] Putting the presentation together, I want to thank Sarah Burgerville Moore and
[0:48] to be a rudder in his team and that team for helping us try to put a message across as
[0:55] digestible by just by the sea council, for the people of Tuscaloosa, certainly one of
[1:01] the faint, faint hardly standards and her team for real-can't financing side, what we're
[1:06] going to be presenting later on in this presentation in the city attorney's office. Again,
[1:12] The recommendations like today, they don't come in isolation, they come because it's
[1:18] a success of so many of our team members and I certainly want to thank them for helping
[1:22] us put it together.
[1:23] I want to begin by talking about just rainfall.
[1:26] I pulled a chart for you from Noah.
[1:29] Now, I'll throw it over there that's from here.
[1:32] You'll see on this chart, it looks at the average amount of rainfall, I'll just put the first
[1:38] months of this year. The dotted line that you see on this graph is the historical average
[1:44] rainfall in a given year for that month. You can go through the child and see. And then
[1:50] you begin to look at January, February, March, April, May, and June. It's when you look
[1:58] at May, it's staggering. That the average amount of rainfall in May is normally 3.3 inches
[2:03] and that ones we've received over 13.8 inches of rain.
[2:09] I also went back to try to bond that of points on the intensity of the rain.
[2:14] One of the most interesting data points I've found now is for Alabama,
[2:18] South Cortesco, but since the 1970s, the intensity of the rain hearing thunderstorms
[2:24] has increased by 27%.
[2:26] So, even not just the amount of rain has increased overall, but the intensity of rain.
[2:35] None of us in this room need a data point really to affirm this, we see it.
[2:38] We see it in our opinions.
[2:40] It just really builds like it's raining more.
[2:44] The data is showing that.
[2:46] It also builds like winter rains, the intensity is high.
[2:50] And certainly that means that our city of low cities across the United States are having to deal with decision.
[2:56] So today, you're going to see a recommendation that's really focused on short term, projects, and long-term records.
[3:04] So the first part of this presentation, we're going to talk about the neighbor of the drainage fund.
[3:10] And recommend a list of projects for the second part of the presentation.
[3:15] We're going to be talking about Noah's R2.0, and how we'll get into more details in that in just a second.
[3:22] The video that you see playing, and I know this Harvey is actually here, we'll find this familiar.
[3:31] This is some flooding that took place about three weeks ago in Academy Drop,
[3:37] which is in Mr. Crow's district, and I know Mr. Crow was actually there that evening.
[3:43] This was a high rain event in Tesla. It certainly meets all the historical measures,
[3:50] And my partner, not talked about this, sometimes you, this, you know, 100-year flood or
[3:54] 500-year flood.
[3:55] I wish they'd really rethink how they had a problem, because it feels like every week
[4:00] we're having a 500-year flood.
[4:02] But just for reference, since that is the National Standard, our system has built birth when
[4:07] you five-year flood.
[4:09] But you can see what happened that evening out on the cat and the drop.
[4:13] I'd like to point out leads in that video, the two, the two on the left were from the cabin drive on the far right with a video of North Hampton.
[4:28] We do have two locations which can drive neighborhood.
[4:37] So the first set of recommendations is going to deal with the neighborhood drainage pump, and then where you see the rain drops that are on the map or in the locations of the projects that we're recommending to the sea council.
[4:49] So, the current drainage fund balance has 3.5 million dollars, if you recall, the council adopted my recommendation just a few months ago to add 3 million dollars into this fund.
[5:02] We're also proposing to the city council that we reallocate 382,000 from one either drop, half a million from the public safety logistics.
[5:12] The one need to drop project is closed out, the logistics has come in about 700,000 under budget.
[5:20] So we have available funding.
[5:22] We believe that would really be good to place into their good drainage.
[5:26] If the council adopted that, and my recommendations are based on that assumption, that we would have $4.3 million
[5:33] or a neighborhood drainage for the following projects.
[5:38] So we would recommend North Hampton, which Mr. Gardner just talked about in a second. That's
[5:43] 800,000. The reason why North Hampton and Bellevue are highlighted because those projects
[5:49] have already been discussed by the City Council themselves. And there has already been an
[5:53] indication that once funding was restored, those projects would be in mind. So 800,000
[5:59] dollars from North Hampton, a half a million for the Bellevue drop project.
[6:03] 1.2 million for the Academy drop, protected by our system, be the Biles of Dorea Properties.
[6:11] Thirty, Bob 100,000 for the 36 Avenue East, Rainbow Drop, Culver Replacement.
[6:17] 300,000 for the 36 Avenue East, Trainage. 250,000 for the Water of our Trainage Improvements.
[6:24] 80,000 for the Oakdale Trainage Improvements and 450,000 for the Beverly Heights Trainage.
[6:31] So we're going to go through each one of these and Mr. Gardner and his team is going to walk
[6:35] through the engineering aspects of them.
[6:38] So the first is a new hand in the drainage.
[6:41] Go back and give you an overview of where that is.
[6:44] This is in Mr. Crow's district in North Tuskelet, just east of Watermelon Road.
[6:50] Mr. Gardner, you want to walk them through the aspects of the project.
[6:54] Yes, sir.
[6:55] The slide that shows the red line.
[7:00] is a proper location of an older storm-type raft that will be covered.
[7:07] What we have in this location is severe flooding of the roadways.
[7:12] You can see in the images, the storm structures are served charging in the road, water leaves, and passes between, you know,
[7:22] to neighbors home, enters a fairly large range channel that parallels amongst a lot of
[7:29] people.
[7:30] We're going to eventually process the road and you go into the Indian Lake Magra hood and see what our
[7:39] analysis is that, but strong network there's too small.
[7:44] It's not able to handle the law. It's all under asphalt, 20 homes. And so it makes it a difficult challenge to replace that info.
[7:57] But what we decided we wanted to do is to add an alternate ground.
[8:10] That's well, this is the last line on Northampton, sorry.
[8:12] When we go out again, that's the process of rehabilitation.
[8:17] The basically we're going to capture that water before it gets to the street with another pipe.
[8:23] One that pipe through the rear yard,
[8:29] eventually gets to the street and connects to the stormtroopers.
[8:33] That's a lot of what it wants.
[8:37] We're doing this design in-house,
[8:44] corruption plans, the next thing we do is to be able to
[8:47] communicate with the landowners that we need each month for
[8:54] us to go to that month.
[9:05] It runs to
[9:11] terms down underneath the roadway.
[9:14] It turns and runs between these two residents that are high.
[9:19] This after the wide away, one-on-one road in the short segment of high-fair, before it turns into
[9:25] Our plan, this is really in the life location, but it was run by high midsomes along the
[9:33] edge of the back side of the home and connect the
[9:40] next two directions to go and we think
[9:43] providing the
[9:46] acidity.
[9:54] The project is Bellevue drainage that gives you an overview of where we're talking about.
[10:02] Mike.
[10:02] Now, we're going to hear me say CMP over and over as in Christ.
[10:09] The last dance before I gave them out of five.
[10:11] It is a pie car which was used for the ambulance, the 60s and the 70s.
[10:18] Tainted the way away from it in the later years of the city actually,
[10:24] I guess the word planned to use a corgi in the pie and around 2,000%.
[10:30] It's a pipe product that's a little more economical, but it's life span is judged or
[10:39] engaged by the acidity of the soil we put it in, the sediment runoff that transforms through
[10:46] that pipe.
[10:47] It integrates the coatings and eventually it's pipe rust, which is just where
[10:56] the beginning
[10:56] is to see more and more of this in projects or neighborhoods that were built in the seven.
[11:03] The elderly may be a little bit older, but the situation here is there is a 72-inch
[11:10] cord hanging metal pipe that runs between two houses under the street and then extends
[11:17] on the other side of the street, probably another 80 or 100% significant range of that back
[11:23] in June.
[11:24] The first said, you're 80 feet of this pipe, you just give it to your 80, be collapsed.
[11:29] closed off the entrance. We had flooding happen at a residence and then you didn't
[11:36] also flood a district as well.
[11:41] We've done this public workshop because we've
[11:45] removed that broken piece of pipe that was just an open gate right now. We
[11:52] need to place that pipe along with that pipe replacement. We want to go ahead and
[11:59] Do what we call a line, the existing coordinated metal pipe that's left, it's still good enough that we can salvage it.
[12:09] This pipe line will extend the life of that pipe another 50 to see
[12:17] another project that our team has tackled in house.
[12:22] Actually, I'm going to receive this on this project next week.
[12:27] If you're here, they need much.
[12:30] This one was just started according to
[12:36] the menu menu menu.
[12:37] Thank you very much.
[12:40] It's in Bellevue on the next row, I know it.
[12:42] Yeah, yeah.
[12:43] You wouldn't check that out.
[12:44] That's right.
[12:45] That water that we looked at eventually gets into that.
[12:48] Yes.
[12:49] The
[12:52] next project will recommend these property vials.
[12:55] And it can be dropped three property vials in particular.
[13:00] Mike, you weren't touch on these.
[13:03] So can we drive again in that good build in the 70s?
[13:09] several issues in this neighborhood. Outline there, we have the creek that over
[13:15] tops the banks, and also floods, stone river rubs.
[13:21] Some stone river rubs get isolated, like it's 27 homes, own stone river, chicken moga,
[13:30] the fridge, for those people have
[13:37] more time. What we want to do is a protected by
[13:41] Now, this is a residence set of members, carbies, and we know what's going on.
[13:48] Smiths, Goldsmiths.
[13:52] Actually, two of those residents were right there on stone river.
[13:57] The curvy home is only in T.M.
[14:01] We'll talk a little later about the each, the other each use,
[14:05] and they know of our residence touch.
[14:09] One of the driving forces behind this was Mike and I looked at the engineering improvement
[14:14] you'll see in the knows our recommendation.
[14:17] The three properties that we're requesting
[14:19] are just seeing voluntary, by the way.
[14:23] Even with the improvements that would be made,
[14:25] would not have prevented their flooding
[14:28] three or three to four weeks ago.
[14:31] We'll update this flooding happen.
[14:32] We also think they could be a good opportunity
[14:34] to limit the scope of future issues in that area.
[14:40] In the meantime, between the project,
[14:42] happening from today in the project.
[14:53] Again, we grab, make sure that the results of that study have been...
[15:00] Okay, several of these issues that we're talking about.
[15:08] Hydraulic efficiency of the channel itself, the
[15:14] 3D capturing.
[15:26] So, the next topic is 36 Avenue East in the Rainbow Drive.
[15:33] Yes, what?
[15:36] Four-gave the middle part.
[15:40] 36 Avenue East. Just a little more of this intersection with Rainbow Drive, which is one of the streets that lead you into the Springfield Lake.
[15:48] The image of the lower right hand corner and the photo on the side of the road that
[15:56] watch strike is the edge of the travel way. Again, we've got a joint failure in particular
[16:05] dislocation and it's allowing sediment to
[16:10] grow bit surface, unit of five, and then
[16:13] travel on down to the water.
[16:17] Here,
[16:23] that's four-day metal five,
[16:26] three-five,
[16:30] so we're
[16:31] underneath it.
[16:36] We've done the negotiations with the
[16:45] dean of the hospital. We're being a
[16:53] I have no doubt, Mr. Donner, you will be.
[17:01] This is the new East.
[17:02] Go ahead, Mike.
[17:03] I'm so much.
[17:04] The best way for me to give you a landmark on this is where the,
[17:08] the Barclay University of different fronts.
[17:12] It's all down.
[17:15] We have a sanitary resources from this running cross country.
[17:21] In this area, over the years,
[17:24] You can see what's happening with this spring channel that grows in the
[17:30] field of soil in this area,
[17:32] point out to you that the black
[17:40] major centers sort of have it over the years and we're not sure how long this is going on.
[17:52] Because it grows in the challenge to focus the five.
[17:55] It's left some of the five exposed in the air.
[17:58] And what's going to eventually happen is the weight of the five were collapsed.
[18:02] It became supportive of that heavy and more dirt.
[18:04] I'm
[18:07] significant, sanitary, super-fated, you're able to hear.
[18:13] We want to install that and manage this run-out, and also do some armor protection
[18:20] of the spring bait to stop the erotic efforts.
[18:28] This project is in the water falling over food.
[18:36] To this area here on Waterfall Parkway, you can see the red, the parallels,
[18:41] like Tuscany,
[18:45] a large accumulation of stormwater runoff as you get down the heel on the road.
[18:51] It's on the fairly flat slope,
[18:57] right in advance the water basically deep enough to cover the entire
[19:02] road. The last residents,
[19:11] so deep at that point, did it over top of the driveway, runs down into
[19:15] the yard into the garage, and then the image on the top
[19:30] of the ocean here is we need to capture
[19:32] the storm through that's just beyond this home and bring it up the street.
[19:37] It's probably around 200 feet.
[19:39] They get a little more in stals and elements along that side of the street.
[19:44] Captain, that water, take it underground before
[19:54] the project that we're going to design in house.
[19:58] It will be ready to take this one to
[20:02] be.
[20:02] Oh, Bill.
[20:06] Probably built in the 60s.
[20:12] The numerous, the two several drain to get you in the automobile neighborhood.
[20:18] year and a half ago,
[20:23] by 1802,
[20:30] I grew up with
[20:32] person diggers, you know, splitting property lines, running either the rear yards or 22 holes for that.
[20:43] We struggled with keeping those diggers free.
[20:47] They get overgrown, the grass captures any sudden, if it's headed down the channel.
[20:52] And then we end up with, you know, water standing, you'll look at the image on the top,
[20:57] you'll see where the water's trying to leave the stream and head down one of these grass
[21:03] the ditches and it's potted up. Our solution is to even tell the box. Where we've gone in
[21:10] and we've pondered blind the ditch. Smooth out the grave. The channel is wide enough that our public
[21:17] works tank and take a walk cat. Some small piece of equipment in various sessions. The main tank.
[21:31] I
[21:34] can't say enough about our public works crews that actually killed those training
[21:39] stitches.
[21:40] It's self-intubing out there one afternoon, and the city would come in and we're doing
[21:45] this prepping on.
[21:47] So, say the city, money, outstanding work by our team, Mr. Green's crews.
[21:53] Beverly Heights.
[21:58] Mayors on the south side of the neighborhood.
[22:00] It's a little
[22:12] bit of a great network.
[22:13] That's not a somersnope.
[22:15] That's a great network.
[22:17] The grocery shop line, the red there, the area,
[22:29] or we have.
[22:30] A storm pipe system that captures the water and runs down a ditch, and it carries it under the street, in turn, back into an open ditch,
[22:42] and basically the storm system cannot carry anymore.
[22:45] The backs to water up in the ditch, you can see that it actually gets deep enough that it touches this house at
[22:59] the top of the road.
[23:08] which is at that cloud of where we're going to work, no one's aware of it, but it is hated
[23:14] towards the railroad.
[23:15] That lower end of the rectangle there, counselor, is where cross is under the road and then
[23:22] the next thing goes under the
[23:26] railroad.
[23:27] Again, this is a project that will tackle in-house,
[23:34] hearing capacity of the storm system
[23:35] underneath the road, probably do some ditch improvements along the way,
[23:44] the roadway and the
[23:45] than at the lower end of the rectangle there, it's efficient, it's able to carry
[23:56] them.
[23:56] Any questions on Beverly Heights?
[24:01] So, any questions on the neighborhood drainage projects?
[24:05] So, as you'll see with the Noah's art projects, we plan on putting these on the agenda of public projects
[24:12] and finance. The finance portion of this would be for wanting to draw a reallocation of dollars
[24:18] in the public safety logistics field.
[24:22] So what projects for people who are interested in projects,
[24:26] assuming you get the other side of the house
[24:28] for finance, then those projects will be ready
[24:31] in the long term.
[24:33] So the next, what's the, what's the,
[24:36] what's the, what's the, what's the same
[24:37] as between the medical training, medical training,
[24:40] to know what's, know what's, know what's,
[24:42] know what's the negative, negative, and long term,
[24:45] where it's these projects.
[24:47] We've never been going into those sort of feasible, manageable, near-term projects, but money we've got.
[24:54] What kind of money do you have on that?
[24:55] Yes, sir.
[24:57] And immediate, as you can go to your constituents and immediately know, when I say immediate in the next 12-18 months.
[25:06] So, you're being needed out, yes, sir.
[25:09] the end of that one. When this goes back, it's never been drank.
[25:18] We'll connect it back
[25:19] to probably a few weeks. It will talk about how to put it through that. How does it work?
[25:26] How did a home buy out for some things? I know we've got a phrase that sounds like how we'll
[25:32] talk about that process. We've heard that once you authorize the funding for it and you're correct
[25:39] with the Academy Drop ones and the idea that we've already had a phrase that was done with the
[25:44] of the homeowners. If you approve the budgetary amount, and that budgetary amount is based off the amount of
[25:51] praisels that we have for the three, for the three, we will then go and sit down and
[25:58] make an offer and begin that type of negotiation. On your chart here by our feet, we're going to
[26:15] And you're a fan of those, like the most immediate needs.
[26:21] How do we determine what immediate and glutes, long time, then?
[26:29] So, several of these, most of all of these,
[26:36] not me, almost the only version of being an
[26:39] emergency.
[26:40] They'll be with the one we had to pipe collapse, to pull that collapse pipe out.
[26:46] And we're going to rehabilitate what's left, and most of all of these,
[27:05] and about
[27:07] And
[27:10] ultimately, as you will hear me talk about those artists for the council to determine
[27:15] this, this is a recommendation.
[27:18] The council has in its full discretion to say, we want to reorder this project or take this project out.
[27:24] And so that's actually a very good segue in talking about those art 2.0.
[27:30] So I wanted to show you and I'll pass it out because I think Mr. Tiner and I are going to
[27:35] that are still remaining from the person that was
[27:37] our fellow's recommended to the Council in 2006
[27:40] and adopted in 2007.
[27:42] Here is the legendary PowerPoint presentation
[27:46] that at the time, I was the compact.
[27:50] So we did it here in the people today
[27:51] that I showed and already based on my Andy work here
[27:54] is the PowerPoint presentation.
[27:56] But you see here in Noah's arc to $1.0, I guess.
[28:01] It was $27 million for roughly about 14 projects that ended up being expanded to more than 20 projects in the process city.
[28:12] It was able to resolve two pairs of funding complaints that we received at that time.
[28:18] And it took about seven years from the point of no was our being passed by the council to have really been fully implemented.
[28:25] And now some of that too, it's hard for people to describe the April 27, 2011, really disrupted
[28:33] a lot of our rhythm here at the city as you can imagine.
[28:38] But no was or a play, an important role in really loudness to get called up on me the drainage
[28:45] issues within the city.
[28:48] And so really, the Tommy's right for us again to be thinking about another no was or.
[28:54] The other thing that I want to pass out to you because oftentimes we are asked about corrugated metal pipe and somehow we are the ones who originated and ended that and then implemented on mass
[29:06] Mr. Tiner probably remembers, but when we recommended those are back in 2006 and 7 we actually recommended the end of corrugated pipe
[29:15] So I want to pass you what we adopted on June 19 2007 and
[29:20] And I don't know Mr. Tiner remembers, but I remember the human crop from home builders.
[29:27] But the city in 2007 made a very good decision to acquire concrete or still piping when in Maine.
[29:38] It was going great.
[29:39] And that decision will serve future councils.
[29:42] Well, let us you saw in that presentation of things that occurred in the 50s, 60s and 70s and 80s.
[29:48] I can assure you, Mr. Tauner and I had nothing to do with it.
[29:52] We were clear about just trying to live our lives.
[29:57] But the thing is, is that I think you see...
[30:00] We have always worked to try to address storm drainage. We need to look at the rain and the intensity of rain and over faces.
[30:08] It's probably going to continue to be our number one infrastructure that we base at the city.
[30:14] I went back and looked for the date, but in April of 2023, I actually met with Mr. Buzz being Mr. Crow,
[30:21] over at this purpose, means House for breakfast.
[30:23] And I don't know if you remember the conversation,
[30:25] but we actually started talking about storm drainage needs
[30:29] and test pollution.
[30:31] And how should the city begin thinking about the large amount
[30:36] of storm drainage needs that were already coming out
[30:39] on our radar?
[30:40] From that discussion, became this kind of internal debate
[30:45] about how do we want to go about addressing
[30:48] a multitude of needs across the city of 71 square miles.
[30:54] And so what you see today really is a culmination of a lot of discussions with you as
[30:59] council members, but collectively and individually, certainly a lot of discussions internally
[31:05] with the city and the engineer staff, public works, and everyone that's involved.
[31:10] So the goal today is to give you a starting point, and I would ask that you do this,
[31:17] that you take your time and work through our recommendations and ask us a lot of questions.
[31:25] Dig in to the details and let's make certain we get it right.
[31:30] Because none of us are perfect.
[31:33] And we were able to do that with the personnel as we make a huge difference in cities.
[31:39] Some of you will see some of the projects in that list and there are no longer concerns.
[31:43] We should be very proud of that.
[31:44] My goal is about to see any years of projects we talk about today,
[31:48] our no longer concern.
[31:50] So I'm really excited about presenting this to you today.
[31:53] I would also ask that you do this.
[31:56] We handed you out some handouts, but don't get too focused on that yet.
[32:02] Let us go through the presentation and then we can circle back and work through all the details that you've been provided.
[32:08] So the first thing that we want to talk about today is the gardener scale.
[32:13] My gardener is going to immortality.
[32:16] But we have created the gardener scale.
[32:20] If we get to a mystery, then was asking about,
[32:23] how did we determine which projects to recommend in the city council?
[32:30] So the project lists that you have in front of you in the spreadsheets
[32:36] would be my partners in the Gardener scale in order of how you would approach all the products.
[32:45] Nice to all the criteria, the board criteria that you see up there travel impediments,
[32:51] public infrastructure impact, new-since disruption and significant resident or business hardship.
[32:58] Now, when I get to my recommendation, you will see that I do not follow exactly the Gardener scale,
[33:04] Because we have to also recognize other types of variables that go beyond just the world of engineering.
[33:15] And certainly that is you represent constituents throughout an entire city of 71 square miles.
[33:23] So if you were to find one immediate fault and there's probably multiple faults because I'm not perfect.
[33:29] And no one on this staff is perfect, is that the recommendation I'm making doesn't necessarily
[33:35] follow straight down the recommendation of this city in January, but we felt like it was
[33:40] important that you get to see both and balance mode. I hear having your little break. So
[33:47] why can you run through the RPA and then the RPA and under the Gardener scale?
[33:53] I'll do my very best, I'll try to, and first of all, I can say nothing about obtaining.
[34:01] I'll
[34:12] see it every issue that we need with that.
[34:16] And I can might have said, if we were objective,
[34:23] and those four items on that pie chart,
[34:27] and how it affects
[34:31] community to
[34:44] the wrongly disabled.
[34:48] Remember, it's just enough.
[34:50] You know, we're going to make it go 100, we're going to make it go 500.
[34:53] But the important thing is to look at that chart and see where we place the
[35:00] And the medicine and the disinfectants,
[35:02] only one step storm of the death of flooding,
[35:05] tissue, cows, abrasives,
[35:12] and op with the smallest part
[35:14] of the sun in the meanation and storage dysfunction.
[35:18] It made humongente to eat a
[35:23] lot of your sandfly
[35:24] with small bed, whatever, and when it storms out,
[35:29] it's been no impact.
[35:31] So we created that as to whether or not
[35:33] it was an individual home or more than one
[35:38] The next thing we look at was what we call travels things.
[35:44] I wrote my before you leave that you're on the significant resonance, there's not
[35:49] so much to it.
[35:51] According to that panel, I was going to jump around and travel with these, but I think I'll
[35:56] go clockwise.
[35:57] But let's just do that.
[35:58] I didn't think we're saying, look, I was just going to ask,
[36:04] I have some peculiar,
[36:06] So the work is density in the blue section, I've got sections of the districts that are
[36:17] 500 people per year, and that's not representative, but it's present.
[36:24] Is that where you factor, I mean, to exaggerate the example, if a pasture that nobody
[36:33] is it uses in floods, put care, you have a place of floods where you've got 40,000 kids
[36:41] trying to drive cars to their intersection that's a factor.
[36:45] Is that where that shows up?
[36:47] Yes, yes.
[36:50] So, actually, it may be travel improvements in peanuts, rock.
[36:56] So,
[36:59] let's move on the use of disruption to travel and pay this.
[37:03] I think that's the second of the next level of a flooding of MF.
[37:09] One is, it gets to your yard.
[37:12] The next one is, well, it's in my yard, but it's in the street, too.
[37:17] And it's causing us a hardship to get in or to get out.
[37:23] So we started looking to travel and clean it.
[37:25] We gave it about four categories.
[37:29] If it's on local.
[37:30] Code in a neighborhood, and in our thousands, there's a little matter disruptions, the scores will look
[37:37] low. And then, as we went up, graduating scales, it was based on the amount of traffic on the
[37:45] road or the road's street classification. You know, a collector or an arterial, or we got all
[37:54] up to the highway, if you're familiar, you know, because all of them are flush under the railroad track.
[38:01] And you can't pay it. So that would be part of a, you know, a limited access highway that's got
[38:09] traveled. The other thing we look at was the, what's the, what's the degree of difficulty of the D2?
[38:18] If we have a road that's closed, we're going to bridge just in my downtown, around the wide sea,
[38:25] Yeah, that road slugs, but it's very easy to maneuver a very short distance around that one's legs.
[38:34] The older the example of that is what I mentioned in the academy drafts.
[38:38] In that watertop store, we remember there are 27 homes. You can't get home.
[38:44] I can't get out. Or the emergency vehicle can't get to it.
[38:48] So it took the highest significance of the right, the highest number that we put in our school.
[38:54] You can't get in and you can't get out that's a pair
[39:02] of top and that's the kind of significant rate of the business hardship.
[39:06] You really want that means is you're, you give water, you give water in your home.
[39:13] You give water in your business.
[39:16] It could be the crawl space or it could be home in your finished floor in your car.
[39:22] If you're getting wet, we felt like that could be more significant since then how many of your friends have.
[39:29] because then we're talking about property loss.
[39:32] We're talking about a whole longer spending money
[39:35] to repair the damage that the water's called,
[39:38] some shapeful.
[39:42] And then finally, the green segment public interest,
[39:47] there we look at what is the risk
[39:50] to our public interest,
[39:55] what it might do to the attention.
[39:59] And so we had to make it six
[40:03] years ago.
[40:03] I mentioned a very behind-guard, you know,
[40:09] And so we've
[40:13] got one of those two seconds.
[40:17] People don't know how to use my policy.
[40:19] So that's what I have to mean.
[40:19] I don't want
[40:22] to use my policy.
[40:23] I want to use my policy.
[40:23] I want to use my policy.
[40:24] So that's what I have to mean.
[40:25] We've got a higher thing.
[40:28] That's how we tackle this.
[40:31] And then we took a map for formula.
[40:34] And we converted that number to a scale that got no higher than 10.
[40:40] When you look at your sheet there, you'll see a number less than 10.
[40:54] It probably will help, let me just, and we can circle back to the radio skills we go through.
[41:02] He's one of these projects.
[41:04] But again, the list that you have in the view is strictly the city engineers recommendations of order of magnitude of projects.
[41:15] So, it was in my job to bring you the recommendation.
[41:20] They're not only fit in what the needs of the city were,
[41:24] as at a variety of cities here,
[41:27] but what's the city's fiscal capacity to take on all these projects?
[41:34] So, we're recommending a $45.7 million bondage.
[41:40] Before I go in specific, I want to make this clear.
[41:43] clear is something all of you have pressing on individual is that you would like to see elevate
[41:52] the use as the primary funding source for doings. And certainly, I believe that considering
[42:01] the magnitude of it, I think that is going in the right direction. But doing so will mean projects
[42:07] that are scheduled in 30, 31, 32, 33 things that we had out long term, we will have to
[42:14] reproach us. Which, by the way, is a decision that I support. This is a need. I support this
[42:23] need. You've asked me to come and work with you on this and I want you to know that's in
[42:30] for your advocacy and the work of our staff is how we arrive today, but it will mean that
[42:40] other things that we have planned, we will need to push down the road, but that's okay.
[42:46] That's why we got elected.
[42:48] We got elected to make decisions.
[42:50] We got elected to change the variables.
[42:53] You know, things change, you have to react to it.
[42:55] And so I want to get that caveat before I build into more detail with this recommendation.
[43:01] And I do think that we need to be part of Mr. Busby within Bonnie's committee of discussion.
[43:08] So we get this. We lose that.
[43:11] But it's no different than our family budget.
[43:13] So different than what we have to do at home.
[43:16] So I want to start at the bottom and work my way up.
[43:21] You will see that we are asking for 15 million of the 45.7 to be dedicated to three
[43:28] items.
[43:30] 5 million to overall contingency.
[43:32] Each budget has its own budget contingency.
[43:36] We are asking for contingency on top of that.
[43:40] We always know there is always going to be that project that there is something we don't
[43:45] know just based on cursory engineering or cursory observation, there is going to be
[43:50] at surprise. There will be good surprises but there will also be bad surprise. The second
[43:55] is property file. A couple projects that I did not include that are on my list is because
[44:04] I do think there may be a better and more effective opportunity to buy problems out than to
[44:10] go invest millions for a project that may only hit impact 1 or 2 or 3 particular homes. Again,
[44:19] that mean we have to, it just gives us that flexibility in doing.
[44:23] The last is grant consideration.
[44:27] There is one or two projects that are either recommended or not included.
[44:31] There may be some grant opportunities.
[44:34] So setting aside 5 million that maybe we could be used as a 10 or 20% match
[44:39] on another grant opportunity.
[44:42] That's one of the things with no authority that we did do
[44:46] and I took that lesson learned and I applied it here.
[44:50] So those would be three things that we would request as part of this overall recommendation.
[44:56] Now let me go to the top and we're going to go through each project and explain.
[45:00] Why it's being recommended? Well, I think that's the question. Yes, sir. The, did we not apply for something to be ready for a military fight for a grant?
[45:13] It would not be something we've done for that.
[45:16] We did, but we were not awarded.
[45:18] So we were not, so there's nothing.
[45:22] Because I mean, to me, that's
[45:26] a, that's a big, big issue too. I mean, but I don't mean.
[45:29] but we still have a process that takes a really long time to do it.
[45:32] Mr. Lepard, Mr. Lepard, who headed that for UA,
[45:35] is a longer UA.
[45:38] And the state actually put in some money as well to that.
[45:42] And talking to Mr. Garner, that's something
[45:44] we would certainly like to resurrect at the end
[45:47] because I didn't make a large-scale project that runs
[45:49] through the hardest campus, and then we'll have a huge impact.
[45:54] I just want to ask you about me, right?
[45:56] I don't think we discussed the meeting
[45:57] I don't know how they're going to watch anything, so there's not stuff that he's missing.
[46:02] From the flooding he talked about it in the fall and where the railroad was from there, all the way to West, essentially down and fell well with that railroad track.
[46:16] So all those neighborhoods,
[46:21] as part of that grant application is a huge base, includes
[46:28] Pat Berry, going north, down to 12th Street, and 13th Street, again, all the way down.
[46:37] We had training, remember, we had trains literally floated off the tracks, remember, and
[46:42] that Friday night, two trains off the track, or excuse me, they were on the track, but they couldn't go
[46:50] by care about the hospital. We've got pork view, the 5 million grant match, that is the project that
[47:00] comes to mind. We certainly, we certainly see that as, you know, putting together that team again
[47:07] about it. It's very, really responsible for that intersection of 82, the University, and certainly
[47:14] the city, the railroad, although they do play a role in this, I said there.
[47:19] That's it's your water. So our property with your water, Tim of course was essentially the
[47:28] kind of lead point of contact for that, that's, that's the point of
[47:33] taking us on that trial curve, but I know that's something.
[47:36] We're not trying to get grant money, but that's what I want to figure out where it was on that.
[47:41] And here's the hard part, but anything like the recommendation we have to you today,
[47:47] the hard part you will have in forming your own work on this, is if you have X amount of
[47:52] dollars, and so that project would be very expensive, and you would have to put
[47:57] So much into that project, you couldn't do other things across the city.
[48:02] The reason I asked the question was because I figured
[48:04] when you might not get into any of that
[48:07] because it was outstanding.
[48:09] That's really the reason I asked the question.
[48:11] Because I never talked about that about the projects in the app.
[48:14] We had a talk about it.
[48:15] This is the next one.
[48:19] This is what the work sessions forward.
[48:21] So the projects we're recommending are Academy Drive,
[48:25] which is the inclusive number of urban assets
[48:27] for 3.75 million and we're going to go into detail in each one.
[48:32] East over at 2.5 million, 10th Avenue and 19th at 6.8 million.
[48:38] Heritage yields phase one at 1.1 million.
[48:41] I do want to put a caveat on that when Mr. Crowe, because we do think,
[48:46] well, although we just ran out of time to today, it might be a property by
[48:51] out, it might be a better solution there, but it just hasn't been studied enough
[48:55] to give you a recommendation.
[48:58] The largest scale project that you see in this recommendation
[49:00] is going to be Cypher Street, basis two and three.
[49:05] I believe this extends a little bit into this Howard's district
[49:08] and primarily in Mr. Linier's district.
[49:12] Rosewood, Lynn Wood, two and a half, Rick's,
[49:16] a road in 30-hurst Street East and Lincoln Park
[49:19] drainage, both of those would be in district one.
[49:23] So let me go through the recommendations of Mike talking about their score and what the concept for improvements would be today, so Mike.
[49:36] Okay, and that's the question for the last one that we talked about.
[49:41] The very first of this, we had, is this on top, like can we try this on top of this?
[49:47] And this isn't an indication of the property by out there.
[49:50] That's the best way, that's coming out of there.
[49:53] Everybody's eyes is not on this.
[49:55] That's all you have to do, that's correct, that's correct.
[49:58] Yeah.
[49:59] Thank you.
[50:01] So you can say the rating, this one's for the highest,
[50:07] everything that we've
[50:12] been doing, the two main reasons
[50:13] is one to travel and things that we mentioned.
[50:17] I select 27 homes, and we have housing, you know,
[50:22] We
[50:25] made a category just to check both of those boxes.
[50:29] The estimate here is 3,700 to 50,000 dollars.
[50:36] And these in order to read already engaged to solving these
[50:39] years provided us with money each study
[50:44] all the way from my
[50:45] next fall and work across the country goes to all the way up to
[50:55] in this 3.75 billion dollars.
[50:58] We are addressing
[51:03] the inadequate cold we're
[51:10] under bridge.
[51:13] The inefficient channel hydrology with a component of the study
[51:18] As that channel moves south from stone river road toward McFarland, it may aren't being in terms
[51:35] of bound.
[51:37] It creates teller and backs the water up at a higher elevation.
[51:44] We're going to address that as well.
[51:48] The storm system that is at the Nash Academy,
[51:54] cuts across a few neighborhoods.
[51:56] your arms and ultimately goes across a teetom and you can send a cordial
[52:04] cordial in that
[52:05] spot.
[52:08] We have a segment there that we've done a couple of minor repairs on the slink hole, doesn't
[52:15] jar.
[52:16] There's a convoluted number of the spikes that
[52:22] part of the pipe does smaller pipe factor of
[52:24] and
[52:28] the house is here is...
[52:30] We are probably going to add another storm line to this system to take it down the masses and down
[52:37] the shallow and imputed decree. Very similar to what I mentioned about North Hampton. We have
[52:43] a pipe network that goes to the direction and allows water to go above the lead gauge flooding
[52:50] problem. And obviously, we're going to be addressing the deteriorating program about 5B to 3B line
[52:57] in the end.
[53:07] I failed to mention there's a typo for it, but
[53:15] we can sound exactly what they're
[53:17] in the end. Again, we get to see
[53:28] how it is over.
[53:32] It's over. We have a significant flooding
[53:34] problem at the intersection of 363 days and 373
[53:53] days.
[53:56] Again, we've got co-graded metal pipes
[53:59] scattered throughout this network. Tenning has maybe
[54:09] 15 months that I'm aware of.
[54:19] Placing
[54:19] having
[54:24] the efficiency of this kind of system,
[54:30] with some pipe replacement,
[54:34] stage sections that need
[54:36] to become more efficient, and also protecting
[54:39] better than what they are today, and create
[54:43] some more surface animals to allow this water
[55:13] to begin
[55:14] to the very southwest corner of the Central High
[55:19] in campus. They're 17th and Black Railway.
[55:22] Again,
[55:27] work begins, travel south,
[55:30] Danny, it works as
[55:36] well to make things, it ends up on Hanthrop Road, and the final discharge is into a crepe, a ditch,
[55:52] and salt, and I just don't very recommend that to you,
[56:01] it's a little magic to the top right photos.
[56:14] I think you're on my take looking across the street and police car on the other side of that.
[56:20] I think that is flooding in that evening.
[56:27] I was flooding
[56:35] because they
[56:39] just stopped running from a lot of scouting.
[56:42] But we didn't
[56:45] want somebody as far as we think about it.
[56:51] We want to be looking at the placement of the pipe networks that are curating the increase in the pipe.
[57:08] re-grading and stabilizing and
[57:17] sharing shields fade more
[57:24] to the side of the head and the
[57:25] two of them. They were good.
[57:40] The red is
[57:54] obviously a red white one. We've got to deal with that.
[57:59] The two photos on the top.
[58:05] This is how we should have the rain been. The water's inside the
[58:08] zone that you can see that
[58:16] it's a system. This is another project that our team has taken
[58:20] on in half.
[58:22] There are segments of the pie network that are sufficient.
[58:28] Pie network that's
[58:28] and
[58:35] that create better opportunities for the water
[58:38] to get out of the road.
[58:43] I think you probably did this one.
[58:54] We came before you months ago, and we actually felt it.
[59:01] And that makes that a 20-year chain.
[59:05] Our consultant did a holistic study of cycles
[59:10] creating all the way from, already six years ago,
[59:14] and he
[59:18] broke it up into a multitude
[59:26] of ideas.
[59:27] And we decided we would change things like Facebook.
[59:31] It's three, it's not gonna be the rest of it.
[59:33] So if I say that is wrong
[59:38] or long cream challenge, long cream
[59:43] challenge, this will be a
[59:45] strain bank protection,
[59:52] shortening
[59:56] up that runs parallel in the system.
[1:00:00] It's not just in the office of processes in a place or two. It's also stops at the right of the month.
[1:00:10] I feel the next slide. So here you can see, you know, the degradation of the stream over time,
[1:00:19] all the different platforms that follow the end. It's just a characteristic of what's happening along this entire screen channel,
[1:00:28] not just what we call.
[1:00:32] This project is under design, for things to
[1:00:38] change something from
[1:00:47] space to
[1:00:49] assessments, management, which is many dollars on two miles.
[1:00:57] A few things that will
[1:00:58] have to look at the majority of what we'll be doing here is bank stabilization,
[1:01:05] give us opportunity to go in here under a firm yet issue by the New York Department of
[1:01:12] They have the remote trees, the rooms that are fed a bunch of the flow of water, set up some
[1:01:19] channel protection measures,
[1:01:23] box covers that we need to add under a redway to the
[1:01:27] room house office.
[1:01:30] So we set up a
[1:01:37] clean community and it goes all the way to the highway 169 south.
[1:01:52] One was a, no was our private insurance.
[1:01:55] It was a lot of no was on.
[1:01:58] So,
[1:02:07] basically two of this is one of the continuation of what was done and
[1:02:17] the concrete
[1:02:18] line in the channel,
[1:02:24] the range and then before you couple of times over the last few years,
[1:02:28] we do a clean out because of the southern garden type clean out, a lot of sudden the laws
[1:02:36] in this channel.
[1:02:39] What the city has done in
[1:02:43] the concrete line, this is the last piece that needs to be 1800.
[1:02:49] Once
[1:02:57] this is complete, it will connect to the ditch that's paralleling and run along the railroad right away.
[1:03:05] Unfortunately for us, they did
[1:03:10] a good job of protection of their ditch about to
[1:03:17] take a road back west where
[1:03:24] this should greatly minimize
[1:03:39] rigs road and third-first-grade
[1:03:46] income.
[1:03:47] It's
[1:03:50] not pasted.
[1:03:55] It's Cindy's.
[1:03:56] That's like a 30 kilo kilo kilo.
[1:03:58] What is up there, aisa.
[1:03:59] But it's not, you know.
[1:04:01] I'm not a big
[1:04:06] girl.
[1:04:06] I'm the uncertainties trying to expand it.
[1:04:09] It's not.
[1:04:11] I've been the same.
[1:04:12] I'm a big, but a pretty passionateness.
[1:04:13] Go right around hurtly.
[1:04:14] Yes, man.
[1:04:15] Johnson Road.
[1:04:19] I'm a big, a
[1:04:23] fair, a fair little change.
[1:04:29] With bad intentions.
[1:04:36] Again,
[1:04:39] I'm just job of trying to maintain these.
[1:04:42] The building we have is areas that drain for the water doesn't flow as well on the
[1:04:52] ground.
[1:04:53] We have areas where water tines.
[1:04:55] Even in a small area,
[1:05:00] we have a stagnant
[1:05:14] inside of the drain pipe,
[1:05:20] some sidewalks that go
[1:05:21] to the residents that
[1:05:44] are hit south toward.
[1:05:54] Some of my similar situation to what we just talked about on the road.
[1:06:05] The details that
[1:06:08] you can see that on the result of that, is that it gets the care
[1:06:12] close to home. I don't think it gets in the house, but it's obviously staying in the water.
[1:06:18] And then we're at some point where having the residents are having like this water.
[1:06:24] Just our proposal here is that we need to take this run and this doesn't have, you know,
[1:06:29] curtain gut or a rainy drainage infrastructure or
[1:06:36] a storm drainage illness and tie it to the net
[1:06:40] floor.
[1:06:45] So those are the projects we're recommending. And we know you're going to always
[1:06:48] I actually would once been more time going through each project.
[1:06:52] Let me talk about funding this.
[1:06:56] This certainly can be funded through a gel fund.
[1:06:59] And underneath general fund is elevate how we want to work
[1:07:03] through that and then come and meet some of us
[1:07:05] to down and talk with you about it.
[1:07:08] Noah's arc was purely a general fund bond issuance
[1:07:11] that we knew we would incur a debt and ultimately,
[1:07:14] what that means is that the end of the year,
[1:07:16] surplus transfer is going to be a little bit lower depending upon what you believe the debt
[1:07:21] service to be. If you were today to say the 45.7 million, that's what we wanted to do.
[1:07:30] We'd be estimated $2.8 million, $2.9 million a year, 30 years.
[1:07:36] That gives you a sense if you do less to that service number obviously goes down.
[1:07:41] If you want to do more, that service number goes up.
[1:07:45] We certainly, you know, we think that 2.8 is a good cap.
[1:07:51] Just kind of projecting out over the next 10 years.
[1:07:56] But that gives you a good starting point.
[1:07:58] We would not recommend them going to the bond market until 27 or 28.
[1:08:04] The reason why is I'm like a savings center where you get to be at, you know, the
[1:08:09] bid and gives you a clear idea of what you're going to go out or a park.
[1:08:15] These are a series of projects that will be that some will be ready to go to bid in six
[1:08:20] months.
[1:08:21] Others may not be for three years.
[1:08:24] And so we would recommend waiting as long as we feel possible to go into the bond market,
[1:08:32] we begin getting busy and to do that though, that would mean that we would want to look
[1:08:38] at getting a lot of credit for engineering potentially by Alps and right away acquisition.
[1:08:45] Right now, the current average interest rate out there is 4.9% and we would repay ourselves once
[1:08:52] we achieve the bond.
[1:08:55] Now, what this would give us the ability to go faster,
[1:08:58] get moving once we get a good sense of market
[1:09:01] 27 or 28, then move forward with the bond issue.
[1:09:09] Carly, and the standard you see as many as the one
[1:09:12] who put this snapshot together,
[1:09:14] you want to add or correct anything to this.
[1:09:18] So, yeah, current average interest rate
[1:09:19] really is from the bond issue,
[1:09:21] that we just did for elevate based on the Odom Park Bower's Park issues we just did literally
[1:09:29] a week ago. And so that's the most current interest rate for the bond projection. The
[1:09:37] lot of credit, I think the mayor was talking about doing about 15 million in a lot of credit to be
[1:09:42] able to get moving on the engineering and the buyouts. And we would need to do some preliminary work
[1:09:49] for reimbursement resolutions in order to know
[1:09:52] that we can pay ourselves back once the bonds have been issued.
[1:09:58] So, that is the recommendation to,
[1:10:02] we would recommend, we can start working committee.
[1:10:07] And this is a big, this is big.
[1:10:09] You don't do this a lot in my 20-year career,
[1:10:13] this is only the second time.
[1:10:17] So this is something we certainly,
[1:10:19] there's no urgency in terms of proving the large-scale projects.
[1:10:26] I would say the neighborhood drainage projects, if we could get priority moving on those first.
[1:10:31] If the council is going to prioritize, we'd rather deal with those neighborhood drainage projects first,
[1:10:35] get them going, because we can get some short-term impacts made there, and then turn to, you know, as art.
[1:10:43] Again, I want to thank our team members for the last six to seven weeks putting this together.
[1:10:48] I want to thank you.
[1:10:50] We've met, I think I've met individually with each one of you on this subject and appreciate
[1:10:54] your input.
[1:10:56] I don't envy the task now you have, but we want to work with you and provide you whatever
[1:11:02] you need as you begin making your decisions.
[1:11:05] So question, Mr. Rugby is, again, in the budget that we will see in just a handful of weeks,
[1:11:15] are you putting money back in and that we're doing outside of this for the next budget here?
[1:11:20] The only two, no, that we do the neighborhood drainage when we get the annual surplus in capital,
[1:11:26] in the capital. Would you anticipate the thing on what that is we would probably replenish some money in that?
[1:11:36] Oh absolutely, basically here because I have the reason I'm asking I think I think there are some of these projects that we've looked at over the last year.
[1:11:46] that we probably could find a little bit in the middle of the place that's some other things in it, and I'm thinking specifically selfishly in my district, there's one in a category drive that is against the sink hole that we've been looking at in this two or four example.
[1:12:02] I know that's in that, but it might be something we can get before.
[1:12:06] And I would caution the council about depending on the surplus amount for capital improvements
[1:12:16] that you have been used to the last few years about having excellent services.
[1:12:22] And as we all know, the digital economy has kind of flatline, our revenues are not growing.
[1:12:28] the way they have been in the last few years.
[1:12:31] So I would really caution the reliance on a surplus amount to possibly do a large scale
[1:12:40] amount of drainage like we did this last year.
[1:12:43] I'm aware of that.
[1:12:45] All right.
[1:12:47] Caviox.
[1:12:48] Sorry.
[1:12:48] Well, thank you.
[1:12:50] Thank you.
[1:12:51] Mayor, this feels like some of the most productive rewarding work that we do by the year.
[1:12:59] really does. And so we've been a long time coming and I appreciate what you're doing.
[1:13:07] The finance looks forward to working out the best ways to come up with the money.
[1:13:15] I'd be forward if the decisions of the council is whether to proceed or not.
[1:13:23] I think the question is going to be, you know, what's the best way to financially
[1:13:28] between line of credit and any other inflows into the general fund or elevate that we have.
[1:13:35] And then if there comes a point where we hit some of these big ones and there's necessary
[1:13:41] to do a bond issue, just that we do like we've been doing and keep to credit writing agencies,
[1:13:48] a praise and a breast of what our plans are,
[1:13:54] again, and if we need more work sessions,
[1:13:57] This, this is what this is good stuff to be working on.
[1:14:03] I did have one question, Mike.
[1:14:05] I know we looked at some issues in the Johnson Road,
[1:14:12] since the 70s yesterday.
[1:14:14] The table server here, we went down and looked at some issues.
[1:14:18] What is that fall?
[1:14:19] I know we got a lot of riddance on that way.
[1:14:21] I think you know a lot of calls.
[1:14:27] you guys, is everything that we best to
[1:14:34] make?
[1:14:35] 500,000.
[1:14:36] I don't know.
[1:14:38] Yeah.
[1:14:39] Yeah.
[1:14:39] He's on our list.
[1:14:40] You just found the list.
[1:14:42] Okay.
[1:14:43] Then that brings up a good point in that.
[1:14:45] I should put it in my notes.
[1:14:48] We talked about Taylor Circle.
[1:14:50] And we thought, well, maybe the dial portion of this might be a better solution.
[1:14:55] We talked about, we call it the YMCA project.
[1:14:57] You got a 11-0.
[1:15:00] $1,000, $1,000, but maybe it's $1,400,000, not a bad day that it lasts for one.
[1:15:07] And so that's what we were thinking with Taylor Circle that we could spend $3,4 million, $99,000,000,000,000.
[1:15:16] Those are the kind of things that we went through our calculus.
[1:15:20] And those are the kind of discussions I would encourage you to have with Mike and myself and the weeks ahead, just to say, okay, this didn't make the list want.
[1:15:33] And that's a judgment call, you know, you try to make the best judgment and you just,
[1:15:38] you know, you believe it's the right decision, it's certainly one that I think it's
[1:15:42] Taylor Circle.
[1:15:43] We did, it should be in that nose or I want to say one something, one point something
[1:15:48] million.
[1:15:50] I want to talk to you in a minute.
[1:15:53] It didn't make the death that we thought it is because that area is just so flat as a pain.
[1:16:00] You haven't been there on the Taylor Circle.
[1:16:01] The drainage ditches actually look like sidewalks.
[1:16:05] We walk around that and raise road to help.
[1:16:08] Didn't we have to see the developers that we insist that they raised some of that over?
[1:16:26] I think maybe the
[1:16:31] plans actually came out for the other people there.
[1:16:35] That was that one.
[1:16:37] I know that they get a lot of stand and stand in front of y'all.
[1:16:43] I'll just, you know, that from the 70, I want to be a brand new.
[1:16:50] I'll talk to you about what I've done that right now.
[1:16:53] I'll ask you that for some.
[1:16:54] And one of the discussions, the council may want to have is, do you want to increase the number
[1:16:58] about what do you want to, again, and I can't underscore this and now.
[1:17:04] this is one idea and there may be, I'm smart enough to know there may be better ideas,
[1:17:13] better ways to stack this and it's a hopefully this gets a really good discussion though.
[1:17:20] And I think I'm going to get plenty of discussion going in. The easy part is going to be
[1:17:25] proceed. It's a hard part to be. So we all pull out knives and shovels and sort of arguing over
[1:17:31] percent and who's district.
[1:17:33] I'm not real.
[1:17:34] My factory had some light.
[1:17:36] Or I think I hadn't been this happy.
[1:17:40] I mean, about eight degrees.
[1:17:43] And I know you have a price on the F.
[1:17:44] I know it's not going to.
[1:17:45] It's not going to be a year of five and a thousand.
[1:17:48] It's only.
[1:17:50] It's only.
[1:17:50] It's not.
[1:17:51] I don't know.
[1:17:52] I knew it was.
[1:17:55] It's not.
[1:17:57] It's not.
[1:17:58] It's not.
[1:18:03] It's not.
[1:18:04] It's not.
[1:18:06] We didn't have any, we didn't actually have a committee, so nothing to adjourn.
[1:18:12] So let's say everybody, I'm clocked.