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The closed session meeting of the City Council has been cancelled this evening. The regular meeting of the City Council will begin promptly at 6 p.m. Thank you.

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Everyone, I'd like to call to order the regular meeting of the City Council of 6 p.m., meeting number 3105, Madam City Clerk, roll call please.

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Councilmember Nielsen, Councilmember Fink,

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Councilmember Gallagher, Mayor Potempo, Mayor Lumber.

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Thank you, next we have the invitation,

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Jeff Carr, Evangelist from Tests and Church of Christ is with us tonight.

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Good evening, and let's pray together.

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Father and heaven, we thank you so much for allowing us to be here.

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Thank you for the day you've given us,

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for the creation that we see outside the mountains that we can look at

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be in a close proximity to the ocean, the diversity that we can see each and every day that

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is only from your creation, that only you can do, helps to remind us of just who you

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are and how powerful you are in our lives, help us to be servants of one another, help

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us to be good stewards of the blessings you've given us, help this legislative body to lean on

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you and ask for wisdom as they make critical decisions that impact this community. Be with

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We seek to put you first and all things to your son's name. Amen. Amen. Thank you.

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I have the pleasure of allegiance tonight. If you're able, please rise.

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Place your right hand over your heart. Ready? Begin.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America,

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and to the Republic for which stands one nation under God,

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indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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Thank you. Maybe seated.

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Well, usually when the council chambers are this full, that means we've done something horribly wrong.

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But I'm glad that that's not the case tonight, and I would like to welcome back the testing girl softball.

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So recognize them. We have two presentations tonight, and the first one is a testing girl softball. I'm going to read some words here.

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If you were here last year, either the girls with parents coaches, I'm going to read him and Mike Mr. Hernandez to come up and say some words and then we'll take some pictures too.

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So, I'm glad you guys are back again.

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This summer, Marcha Historic milestone for the Test and Girls Softball League as it's all

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star teams achieved unprecedented success and represented testing on the state and regional

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stage.

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For the first time in the history, the 10-use silver all-star team captured the district championship

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title.

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The team went on to place fourth in the state tournament and earned an impressive second

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place finish in the California Regional Tournament.

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The 12-year-old all-star team achieves another remarkable accomplishment by winning the state championship,

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earning the opportunity to complete for the Western National Championship in Seattle, Washington.

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Their success brought great pride and excitement to the testing girls' softball lead.

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These outstanding achievements reflect the hard work, dedication, teamwork, and sportsmanship

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demonstrated by the athletes, coaches, and families throughout the season.

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Their accomplishments serve as an inspiration to future players and reinforce the strong

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tradition of youth athletics in testing.

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Congratulations to all the athletes,

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coaches and supporters on an exceptional season

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and for representing testing with excellence

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both on and off the field.

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Congratulations.

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Mr. Hernandez, the floor is yours.

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All right, good evening, Mayor.

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Members of the City Council.

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Nice to see you again as promised.

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My name is Christian Hernandez, President

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of Tuss and Girl Saltball.

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And I'm behalf of our league,

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thank you to the City of Tuss and City Council

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for this special recognition.

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and for your continued support of view sports in our community.

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As shared, we are incredibly proud of these young athletes, for their hard work,

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teamwork, sportsmanship, and the way they represent a tusk throughout the summer.

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I also want to thank their coaches and families for the countless hours and sacrifices

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that made these accomplishments possible.

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This year we had nine all-star teams, they all moved on into states,

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but tonight we proudly recognize

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Both the ten-use silver storm, led by manager Bianca Hernandez and coaches Selena Gonzalez, Ashley Hernandez and Mario Rojas.

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As share, they finish 27 and 11, one district, police fourth in southern California and finished second at the California State Games in San Diego.

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I also want to recognize the 12-year-old sparks led by manager Chris Blevins and coaches Jimmy Brown, Michael Crawford, Chris Manning and David Valencia.

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the Sparks finished with an incredible 39 and 8 record.

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They won three tournaments and they're the first ever

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Tusning Girls Saltball team to win a stage championship.

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They traveled to Seattle this summer,

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and they did represent Tusan at a national tournament.

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So, at Tusan Girls Saltball, we always say we do it for the girls.

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And tonight, we probably celebrate the players,

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the coaches, and the families of these two teams,

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and our entirely.

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So, thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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And we're going to come take some pictures in a second, but girls this night is about recognizing

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your accomplishment, but as the father of four youth athletes that are in travel

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weeks for different sports, say thank you to your parents too, thank you.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You know, all have to do it.

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So if you just make a little power here,

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you know, that's it.

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Because that looks really weird.

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I guess that's it.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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What is it?

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It's so popular.

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It's a great place for you.

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Get some東西.

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But it's pretty wet.

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It's so wet.

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Please, please.

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I'm happy to see you.

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Okay, ready.

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One, two, three.

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One, two, three.

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I think the thing we do is,

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Thank you.

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You have to have this.

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You have to have this.

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You have to have this.

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Come on.

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What are you doing?

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I am.

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Good. Good. Good job.

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All right, you girls are, and maybe the parents want to know this too, you girls can leave

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if you want.

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The next presentation is the Dolly part of Imagination Library, it might be special for you

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to kind of hear what it's all about, but if you want to leave, go ahead and

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we'll give you

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about 30 seconds to shuffle out.

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So if you're leaving, hurry up.

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As soon as the doors shut, just because I know you're back on this.

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Okay. Our next presentation tonight is the Dolly part in the

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Imagination Library and Chris he green of the Dolly part in

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Foundation will speak on behalf of the Dolly part in the

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Imagination Library project occurring at the Irvita book company.

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Thank you so much. Thanks for having me and thank you for the

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floor and opportunity to share. We are just so excited because

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the Imagination Library, DeliPrince Imagination Library, is coming to Orange County, and

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it's starting in the City of Teston. Y'all are the first

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city to bring this program to

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fruition, and that is huge. And I have a lot of folks to think, but before I do, I'd be

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remiss if I didn't say something about our dreamer and chief, whom we just lost. Obviously,

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Dahlie is a legend, she's a treasure, and somebody shared something recently that

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that was really beautiful.

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We have celebrities that we love in a door and we cherish.

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But dolly was a celebrity that loved us back,

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and she was that thread that kept us all together.

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There's not one person, I think, that didn't like dolly,

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and dolly really cared about humanity.

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And one of the ways in which she showed,

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how she cared about humanity,

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is she brought dolly part and imagination library

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to life, 31 years ago.

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So we're celebrating 31 years of impact.

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And in California, we have a commitment

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to bring this program to all 58 counties,

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Orange County, obviously being a high priority.

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And thanks to Council Member Lee Fink, Sam Robertson,

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with our Vita Book Company and Foundation,

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and folks like Dalyne Riley,

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who's our youth ambassador in Jeannie,

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who's been with me since the beginning.

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We're able to say that the imagination library

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will be available to children from birth

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and tell their fifth birthday.

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So for those of you who don't know about the imagination library,

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what it does is give to book every single month

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to children from the time they're born, tell their fifth birthday.

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And our hope is that we're building home libraries.

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But beyond that, we're better preparing our kindergartners for school, for their school journey.

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And we focus on this age group because 90% of our brains are developed by the time we reach five.

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So that interactive reading with our caregivers is paramount.

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It ensures that they're exposed to worlds outside of their own, that they're exposed to worlds.

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And they're getting themselves primed and ready to learn how to read.

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So this program is incredibly important.

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and we just did a statewide or excuse me

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an international study that showcased the validity

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of our program.

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Just after 10 books after looking at 86,000 families

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who have access to our program,

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and this is the largest book-gifting program

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in the world, by the way.

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Dolly had started this program in the United States,

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Canada, UK, Ireland, and Australia.

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Right now, 3.2 million children, every single month,

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receive this book and test and children,

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we've part of that count very soon.

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And what we discovered after just 10 books,

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Children improved their literacy four times.

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They were nine times more likely to be read too consistently.

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And we've known they're read too consistently

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by the time they reach kindergarten,

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they're exposed to one to two million more words

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than they're kind of part two may not have been read too.

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And then more importantly,

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children are building confidence.

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They're taking agency and their literacy experience.

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And they're asking to be a read too.

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We're creating lifelong learners and readers.

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So this program is now coming to our city,

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which I'm really, really excited about.

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I also wanted to thank Lynn Davis,

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the President of the Test and Unified School of District for his personal contribution.

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Obviously, the mayor. Sorry, I'm a little bit nervous in county. What do you think who has been integral in getting us to this point, an incredible

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champion and stakeholder of this program. Thank you so much, Lee. Council member pink. And of course, Santa Roberts and with our

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Vita Book Company and foundation in her team and our volunteers because it really does take a community to make a program like this happen.

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and that's exactly how to how dolly designed it.

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She wanted to bring a community together

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so that we can support our little listener.

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So because of everybody around,

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this program is now available,

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which I'm really excited about.

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So to commemorate the fact that you are the first city

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to bring to Orange County,

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you have your very own stand up dolly.

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And yes, this is how can you tie this powerful woman

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with the big heart,

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and who's taught us to dream fully.

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This is how tiny she is.

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And then we also have a science,

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autographs photo for the council and then we also have books for you. Some of the books that are in our program as well as in QR code.

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So families, you can sign up today. Thanks to our Vita book company and the likes of Lee and many others.

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You've brought this to fruition. So anyway, thank you so much.

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We're going to come down and take some pictures with you. I just wanted to say thank you.

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You said thanks to a lot of people including the council and this is really about getting books in the hands of kids and

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effort that you and Dahlie and all of her team are succeeding at. And thank you for bringing

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it to Justin and we're excited for it. And I just want to say we're committed now and we're

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then ever to grow this program. Dahlie's dream and vision that every single child will have access

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to books remains and we're building the program. So if anyone wants to be part of it, we do

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have an advice or a committee, maybe unimumptly basis and help us bring it to the rest of Orange County.

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Thank you. I digress. I just want to say I actually haven't done much, but I want to acknowledge

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the mayor who helped get a supervisor Wagner, who's contributed to this program, and also

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supervisor Sarmiento.

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So both of our county supervisors have contributed there from their discretionary budget funds

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into this program.

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Because there's still a fundraising component of this.

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So thanks to everybody who's involved in doing that.

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And we'll be fundraising more to add to that.

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Thank you so much.

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That's all.

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This is really how it's hanging this power.

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This is really how it is hanging.

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I like a giant.

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All right, we'll have a little bit of that.

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You're the sick dude.

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We'll put it for me right here.

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One, two, three.

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Got it. Thanks, y'all.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Can I see one last thing?

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Actually, since Sam was unable to be here, Sam Robertson from our Vita Book Company and Foundation,

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who is our local champion, this is what she said, which I just thought was so beautiful.

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Our vision is that someday getting a book in the mail, every month is just a part of growing up in

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testing.

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Okay, like I did for the testing girl's off-ball. If you're here for the Dalai

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Parton Foundation and you want to leave, go ahead. You got about 30 seconds to move on out.

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Okay. Next, we have public input. At this time, any member of the public may address the council

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on matters which are not on this evening's agenda provided the matter is within the subject

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matter jurisdiction of the city council. If any members of the public who are participating

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through Zoom wish to address the council, please raise your hand. And if you're calling in,

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please press our nine to raise your hand. Madam City Clerk, I have a list here. I'm going to ask you

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to call off the name. Please, and we'll do in person first. First, we have Leslie and then Susan.

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I'm a little hurry hearing but I'll do fine. Hi City Council. My name is Leslie and I'm a resident of

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Tustin and I'm here to continue my opposition of the flock system software being used in the city.

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Because our common ground for evidence is a meeting I to I for the past couple months.

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We're going to try something new, and we're going to try to roll play. So I'll pretend to be a flop representative, and I care about how much money you're going to say with our system.

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So for example, if you go to the CVS, down street, there's usually only one to two people managing that store, because a company that has earned $106 billion and its second quarter still needs money to be saved, and I completely understand that as a businessman.

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right? And so I can see that your test and police department has also maybe run into a money

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problem. So let's see if I can help you save some money. theoretically you can replace and

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fire about 25% of the workforce and then we can replace those overworked eyes with our high

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powered best judgmental AI intelligence. Why not right? You save a lot of money because AI will

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never go on strike and it will never ask for a pay raise. Your other security surveillance you can

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If you want to, or you can implement our software into them like the axon fuses, like the one you're trying to implement for the school later today.

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And because we need to inflate this false sense of emergency, we can implant them and the neighborhood cameras as well.

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Then you'll have unchecked members looking over a thousand cameras daily without any pesky audits or warrants or false identities or false positives or stalking incidents.

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Gathering all that data to be stored in a third-party sector.

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You don't need to read any of that.

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What's important is that I'm saving you money.

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And I removed you from all fault and having any more consideration

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that our system does.

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And I'm so proud that you overlooked the news reports,

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the automation, blindness, and victims statements

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in order to keep doing business with us.

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Your number one guy, your best friend,

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The private company who sees all call concern and resisting citizens terrorists, I'm just like you.

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So thank you so much for putting us above your citizens and don't forget we're not liable.

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And seeing, that was pretty bad, right?

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And so, Tussain doesn't need Fox Offer anymore. You know what to do. Thank you.

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If you're a comments next speaker, please.

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Good evening, Mr. Mayor and Council members.

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My name is Susan Burgess and I am a resident of Tustan and a retired teacher who spent 35

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years with the Tusted Unified School District.

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I am all for safety and crime prevention.

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I am all for helping the local police and the sheriff.

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I am all for ways to deter crime.

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I am also currently much more concerned about how ICE operates in and around our city.

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I've spoken twice here before about the ICE raid behind-tested high school in July.

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It was unnecessarily violent and it was a targeted raid.

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How did the ICE agents find the guy they kidnapped?

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I used that word because there was no judicial warrant present.

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I have no idea how they found that guy, but I can sure wonder if it was through an automated license plate reader.

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It is on the DHS website that ISIS tapped into ALPRs as far back as 2017.

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So I am here to express my extreme discomfort with and opposition to surveillance camera technology for a few reasons.

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First, eye-sagents are not lawful when they don't follow due process, and they are using it to find immigrants.

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That's a violation of state law.

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Second, the data collected by these cameras are not regulated or secure.

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The police officer in Costa Mesa misused the data to stalk someone for example.

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Third, there is a lack of transparency around these cameras.

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Do people know that their vehicle's information has been entered into a database that

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can track where they go?

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I am very uncomfortable with the idea of the similar surveillance technology being used in our schools.

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I don't believe that it will make our children safer.

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On the contrary, it will increase anxiety, fear, it will degrade trust in their teachers

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and administrators, making it less likely that they would report dangerous behavior.

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Maybe surveillance technology gives some people a safer feeling, but the reality is different.

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The cameras are expensive, intrusive, and in some instances, unconstitutional.

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These cameras are an invasion of privacy.

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The City of Tustin and Tustin.

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First and Unified should focus their investments on more guidance counselors and social services care.

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If we cared more for our people, we would all be better off. Thank you for your time.

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Next speaker, please.

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Next, we have Kristen Monia and then Kevin Reyes.

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Good evening. Good evening Mayor Austin Lombart and Tested the City Council.

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On behalf of the United Nations Association of Orange County and the Southern California

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area Republican women in long-term residents of testing, I want to express my heartfelt gratitude

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to each of you for your leadership and commitment to the children and families of our community.

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I'm a socially proud that testing is the first city in Orange County to adopt Dolly Parton's

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imagination library for all the children in our city. Giving a child access to books is a

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much more than just reading. Books spark imagination, they build confidence and they encourage

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curiosity and open the world of possibilities that can last the lifetime. As someone who's called

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that continues to lead by example.

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Mayor Lumbart, Lee Fink, and the rest of our city council.

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Thank you for investing in our youngest residents,

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and for giving them the gift of reading,

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learning, and dreaming.

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Thank you for making testing a community where every child

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has the opportunity to imagine, grow, thrive, and dream.

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Thank you so much.

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Can I speak your please?

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Kevin Reyes.

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I

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can be more.

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We'll give you back five seconds.

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So, hi, Test and City Council, Mayor.

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My name is Kevin Reyes.

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I am a resident of Santa Ana.

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And I come before you,

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humbly asking for you guys to fund a couple of

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roller-ring sessions at the Test and Heritage Park.

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I have already successfully fund raised

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session myself on a Wednesday.

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I was for two hours, the roller rink is held up by the Anhymdux and it's a hockey rink.

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So when roller skaters go there, usually it's split up between two, but it's really dangerous

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to be skating around while there's hockey pucks flying around.

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So I was able to talk with the park manager and we ended up getting it reserved for two hours

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for roller skaters and it only cost us $200, like $200 plus the fees and stuff.

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And I was just wondering and hoping that since if you guys have ever heard about holiday skate center in orange

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It was shut down and roller skaters are looking for a place to skate if you guys could fund that for us

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It would only be $400. I've already done I've already run the logistics

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I would have had I would be a happy volunteer as a floor guard

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It would be something really good for your skaters here in Tuston

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Especially since you guys already have Tuston legacy and everything going on the race for art to to become the city for the birthplace of

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artistic roller skating in the Olympics is on.

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Holiday was a prime contender because they had a wooden rink.

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There's wooden rinks being open right now in Fountain Valley as well as Corona.

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There's going to be one open up there.

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And so my second request is also to look into maybe opening up a wooden rink here in

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Dustin.

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So that you guys could get a shot at becoming the birthplace of Olympic artistic roller skating.

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Orange had that chance and they shut down holiday ski center.

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and now it's here open for everybody.

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So those are just the two things that I would be asking

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for roller skaters in the community.

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If you guys could fund some time over that,

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test in Heritage Park, the roller rink,

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work with Anna Heimducks.

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I would happily volunteer my time to be

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floor guard there and also just look into maybe

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making a wooden rink so that artistic roller skaters

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could have times after school.

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Like the Holiday Artistic Skates Center is looking

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for a place to skate as well.

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They're looking for any time after school

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from 3 to 6 kids need places to skate. We need third spaces and roller skating. There's just so

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many benefits to it that people, I'm really not not a shame, but sad that it was like go

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off in the place that it was, but I need to make sure that everybody gets a shot and that roller

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skaters have the best place to skate. So if you guys could look into those two items, I'll be

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speaking hopefully here a little bit more to give you guys more information, but that would really be

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Awesome. And I look forward to hearing what you guys think. Thank you. Thank you for your

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thoughts.

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Thanks for your good please. We have two speakers on Zoom. The first one has the last four

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digits for 317.

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Hi, can you all hear me? Yes, go ahead. Thanks. First off, I realized the issue I'm raising

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is small fish compared to some of the other topics discussed today, but I really appreciate the opportunity

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to voice my concerns than the less. I'm a test and resident who lives nearby the Allie Grove

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promenade park. I'm calling to raise concern over the Thickleball courts actually at Allie Grove.

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There are pretty consistently now folks who have been playing at the courts outside park hours.

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Players almost always scream and break noise ordinances. It gets pretty rauty out there. It

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sounds really exciting but unfortunately loud. From what I've noticed, it'll start as early as 5 a.m.

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goes lay as 11 pm or midnight in some cases. Additionally, they bring their own floodlights

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which shines through our windows at times. Normally, I wouldn't see this as a major problem.

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Pickleball is great and I'm so grateful to have this community space so close to home.

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But lately, unfortunately, it's just gotten increasingly loud. In recent weeks, the shouting

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has disrupted sleep and sometimes causes my dog to bark and wake up our baby for anyone

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who has kids. I'm sure you can relate to how frustrating this sort of thing can be.

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Thankfully I do believe there is a very simple solution which could be

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which would be to lock up and open the courts according to park hours similar to how this is done

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at other tests and parks including the very close by veteran sports park. So hopefully it wouldn't

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me to many resources or too much time to have whoever does that at veterans to move on

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over to Alie Grove and do the same for our to court there. Again, thank you for taking

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the time to hear my concerns and have a good evening.

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Thank you. Next speaker please. Next we have Kudan.

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Hello. Hi, go ahead. Can you all hear me?

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We can hear you go ahead.

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So I'm convinced I've come here before to resolve their issue and the public safety issue

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at Spuncip Pod Desert Discard course, which has heard some of the people including

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a person got hit in the belly and also my neighbor got hit in the ankle and so much

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after six months.

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And I got hit as well, and so I finally got a response from Parks and Recreation with a proposal for a solution.

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And I wanted to address my concern regarding that.

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I like most of the solution, just as just one part of the solution that I feel like it is very or victim blaming.

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So for example, I like the solution about making sure that there's a sign saying that you cannot play after dusk that is at night,

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which is actually very good.

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Having signs with arrows and directions

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in front of every discolored face and like that,

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like the part about having signs telling the discolored players

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to have more etiquette, be careful of the direction and end.

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The part I didn't like was telling the pedestrians

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and the public to be careful

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because that sounds a lot to me like victim blaming

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and the city caring more about preventing lawsuits

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and, you know, protecting their own life.

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Those who you rather than actually public safety

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and I feel like I'm concerned that it would involve

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in the digital players to be even more reckless

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because now it feels like the city is gonna be

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like protecting down inside of, you know,

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as you are actually the majority of the users there.

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So I'm concerned that even I am thinking

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If that happens, I might not even go during the day anymore.

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I don't even go during the day, even right now.

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And then, last of the public would go and even

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more of the discount code would go and end up taking over

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the path.

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So account the solution that I propose is,

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instead of telling the public to be careful,

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how about there is a dedicated phone number?

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uh...

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The citizens can report an incident. That's separate from 911 or the police department, sister, dedicated phone number to actually report incidents or the citizens' second documented.

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And it would also give her a head sub to the different care players that can be some consequences.

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And then we can have signs with the phone number. So that is the solution that I propose.

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I like everything else, so yeah, thank you. And the reason why I'm also telling this is because I do now have evidence, you're in the next three minutes or we appreciate your comments.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Next speaker, please, the third one.

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That is all.

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Mr.

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Anybody else in the room?

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No, and I do want to note for the record that an email from Alex Brown was received and distributed in the city council regarding Orange County Animal Care.

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But next we have our closed session report, Mr. City Attorney.

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This evening's close session actually was canceled, so there is no close session report.

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Okay, thank you.

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Next we have our consent calendar, items 1 through 10, all matters listed under the consent

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calendar are considered to be routine and will be enacted by one motion without discussion.

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Item number four, on tonight's agenda, will be pulled a staff request and will be considered

468
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,260
a future meeting to be determined.

469
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,400
So we're considering 1 through 3 and 5 through 10.

470
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,440
Public input for the consent calendar items.

471
00:46:28,620 --> 00:46:30,440
If any members of the public wish to address the council,

472
00:46:30,660 --> 00:46:31,820
please submit a request to speak form.

473
00:46:31,900 --> 00:46:32,620
If you have not already.

474
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:34,140
If any members of the public wish,

475
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:35,000
participating through Zoom,

476
00:46:35,100 --> 00:46:36,600
with to address the council on items 1,

477
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:37,880
3, 3, or 5,

478
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:39,320
through 10, please raise your hand,

479
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,660
or 4, if you want to talk about 4.

480
00:46:42,180 --> 00:46:42,640
Madam City Clerk.

481
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:43,280
I have a list here,

482
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,760
but I'd ask you to manage the speaker's please.

483
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,160
Our first speaker is Leslie,

484
00:46:49,700 --> 00:46:50,900
and then after Leslie,

485
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:51,840
we'll have Dominica.

486
00:47:00,770 --> 00:47:01,390
Hello again.

487
00:47:01,550 --> 00:47:02,370
My name is Leslie.

488
00:47:02,370 --> 00:47:07,990
and regards the agenda item number eight, which is the memorandum of understanding.

489
00:47:09,510 --> 00:47:14,890
Looking through it, it just demonstrates to me that the focus isn't solving the

490
00:47:14,890 --> 00:47:19,270
rule of the problem. It's simply just wanting to increase on surveillance.

491
00:47:20,390 --> 00:47:24,950
My question is then, is this a response to ice infiltrating the high school grounds

492
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:32,290
because if you just act on, as implemented, then an ice agent can waltz up to the school district

493
00:47:32,290 --> 00:47:37,650
or the police department, and then demand access to the state of NVIDIA regardless of whether

494
00:47:37,650 --> 00:47:42,730
it wants to be turned over or not. That's just, there's no disputing that. You have to hand it over.

495
00:47:43,710 --> 00:47:49,190
Excuse me. The MOU also itself emphasizes on safeguarding the state of

496
00:47:49,190 --> 00:48:04,370
But it's naive to think that Axon wouldn't share this data already when they've already had issues with their user term agreements and then sharing law credentials already and other cities and states is widow.

497
00:48:05,550 --> 00:48:15,190
If your solution is to change the language or use of terms in this memorandum, you'll just be following the footsteps of the coast of Mesa City Council who

498
00:48:15,190 --> 00:48:30,190
They also had something like this and they disregarded the voice of 70, something residents of their town and said obey their own judgment and then gave their loyalty to this private company.

499
00:48:31,170 --> 00:48:36,930
Saying yes to this is catastrophic and it just demonstrates you're all scared of your community.

500
00:48:37,690 --> 00:48:42,570
it's appalling and embarrassing if that means anything at this point from how many times I've

501
00:48:42,570 --> 00:48:48,810
come here to just talk about ALPR and just data prevention and privacy. The focus shouldn't

502
00:48:48,810 --> 00:48:54,270
be what the technology does, it's who it serves and who it does it to which in this case would

503
00:48:54,270 --> 00:49:02,190
be students and teachers. So I guess if you are going to say yes I guess just be ready when a parent

504
00:49:02,190 --> 00:49:04,690
comes up to you and then they ask you why you'd

505
00:49:04,690 --> 00:49:08,250
and protect their Bethany or their Coralos, their Jennifer,

506
00:49:08,550 --> 00:49:11,850
their Angie, their James, their Emma, their Henry, their Louise,

507
00:49:11,930 --> 00:49:15,310
their Susan, and then your answer was, but we put a camera up.

508
00:49:16,550 --> 00:49:18,870
And if you care about these children, don't plan this phone.

509
00:49:19,050 --> 00:49:22,130
If you have to say no to this, the memorandum of understanding.

510
00:49:22,470 --> 00:49:23,410
Thank you.

511
00:49:25,020 --> 00:49:25,480
Thanks, Baker.

512
00:49:34,150 --> 00:49:37,010
Good evening, Mayor, and Council members.

513
00:49:37,530 --> 00:49:40,170
Earlier this year, I came before you to raise some concerns

514
00:49:40,170 --> 00:49:45,650
about the use of emerging public safety surveillance technology, and the importance of making

515
00:49:45,650 --> 00:49:50,030
sure privacy, transparency, and accountability to keep pace with these tools.

516
00:49:51,170 --> 00:49:51,650
Here to about already.

517
00:49:52,270 --> 00:49:56,470
I'm back tonight because I see some of those same issues raised by agenda item 8, the

518
00:49:56,470 --> 00:49:59,930
Now you between the Test and Unified School District and the Test in Police Department.

519
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:06,400
I first want to acknowledge that the MOU does appear to include meaningful safeguards of the district

520
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:12,420
between control of its cameras. Emergency access is defined, non-emergency retrieval requires

521
00:50:12,420 --> 00:50:20,500
a district permission and access is limited to authorized personnel. I also understand the very real public

522
00:50:20,500 --> 00:50:26,400
safety benefit of giving responding officers better information during an emergency at one of our schools.

523
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:34,900
My concern is less about whether authorized personnel should ever have access, and more about how we make sure that access is always used appropriately.

524
00:50:35,820 --> 00:50:48,020
We continue to see and hear stories around the country involving personnel who were fully authorized to use surveillance technology, but then misused that access for personal or improper purposes.

525
00:50:49,500 --> 00:50:56,300
Those incidents can understandably undermine public confidence and trust while also creating

526
00:50:56,300 --> 00:51:01,860
unnecessary legal, financial, and reputational risk for the agencies involved.

527
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:08,060
They also remind us that authorization and training alone are not the same thing as accountability.

528
00:51:09,500 --> 00:51:13,740
So I would encourage the city and the department to make safeguards as concrete and

529
00:51:13,740 --> 00:51:22,040
ifiable as possible. For example, is every access to a school camera logged, including who

530
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:27,360
had access it, went in for what reason, are those logs periodically audited and how long

531
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:34,680
is downloaded footage retained? And if video is shared with another local state, local state

532
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:42,290
or federal agency, is that disclosure documented and reviewed? I'd also encourage some appropriate

533
00:51:42,290 --> 00:51:48,450
periodic public reporting. So residents can understand how often this system is actually being used

534
00:51:48,450 --> 00:51:54,250
and under what kinds of circumstances. I don't believe public safety and privacy have to

535
00:51:54,250 --> 00:51:59,470
be competing interests. Strong safeguards, meaningful auditing and transparency can help

536
00:51:59,470 --> 00:52:04,750
help us have both and give the public confidence that these technologies are being used the way

537
00:52:04,750 --> 00:52:09,690
they were intended. I appreciate the Council's attention to those questions in any follow-up

538
00:52:09,690 --> 00:52:12,490
and the appropriate, thank you for your time

539
00:52:12,490 --> 00:52:14,330
and for your service to the City of Testin.

540
00:52:15,150 --> 00:52:15,610
Thank you,

541
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:20,480
next speaker, please.

542
00:52:21,240 --> 00:52:24,640
Next, we have Lena Noin, and then after Lena

543
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:25,320
will be Michelle.

544
00:52:47,330 --> 00:52:48,950
Hello, my name is Lena.

545
00:52:49,390 --> 00:52:50,790
I'm on a low-live in Santa Ana.

546
00:52:51,010 --> 00:52:53,870
I do live near Testin and I frequent the city.

547
00:52:54,070 --> 00:52:56,490
I'm here to speak on agenda item number eight,

548
00:52:56,650 --> 00:52:58,430
which is the memorandum of understanding

549
00:52:59,010 --> 00:53:00,550
between the Testin Unified School District

550
00:53:00,550 --> 00:53:01,890
and the Testin Police Department,

551
00:53:01,990 --> 00:53:04,190
and I am an opposition of the city receiving

552
00:53:04,190 --> 00:53:05,690
and filing this memo.

553
00:53:06,130 --> 00:53:08,050
The memo is intended to provide the police

554
00:53:08,050 --> 00:53:10,970
with access to cameras in the district schools and facilities.

555
00:53:11,530 --> 00:53:13,450
The memo is for limited access only,

556
00:53:13,590 --> 00:53:15,250
but without oversight or accountability,

557
00:53:15,870 --> 00:53:17,750
the risk for misuse cannot be ignored.

558
00:53:18,330 --> 00:53:19,870
As you may know, just in Kusenase,

559
00:53:20,190 --> 00:53:22,530
as brought up earlier, a former police officer

560
00:53:22,530 --> 00:53:24,890
retained access to the surveillance system

561
00:53:24,890 --> 00:53:26,430
that he was not supposed to have

562
00:53:26,430 --> 00:53:29,650
and use it to stalk and confront multiple men and women.

563
00:53:30,010 --> 00:53:32,130
This was an entirely preventable scenario

564
00:53:32,130 --> 00:53:33,330
that went on for years.

565
00:53:33,330 --> 00:53:36,970
in a police department that claimed they did weekly audits to stop this very scenario.

566
00:53:37,850 --> 00:53:41,270
The details on the memo are sparse that I cannot trust that the police department

567
00:53:41,270 --> 00:53:45,970
or the school district have strong processes or systems in place to protect school children

568
00:53:45,970 --> 00:53:51,350
and school staff from cases of misuse and unauthorized access. Additionally, I have concerns

569
00:53:51,350 --> 00:53:54,830
on the potential data collection of children and false alarms.

570
00:53:55,330 --> 00:54:00,490
Police access to surveillance systems has shown that these are real risks that can harm innocent children.

571
00:54:01,730 --> 00:54:07,590
There should not be a case of allowing access and only examining its flaws after something horrific occurs.

572
00:54:09,050 --> 00:54:13,130
Speaking on the proposed benefits, I do not trust that this will improve safety and efficiency,

573
00:54:13,690 --> 00:54:16,290
despite public safety being the police's main goal.

574
00:54:16,450 --> 00:54:20,510
It has been shown that police presence overall does not make for safer schools,

575
00:54:20,650 --> 00:54:23,790
does not protect children and actually interferes with their education.

576
00:54:24,650 --> 00:54:28,510
With this in mind, the risk and uncertainties do not outweigh the benefits

577
00:54:28,510 --> 00:54:31,850
and I believe the council should reject this memo. Thank you.

578
00:54:31,890 --> 00:54:32,550
Thank you.

579
00:54:34,580 --> 00:54:35,540
Excuse your please.

580
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:41,220
If you want to speak, and you haven't filled out a card yet, please do so so we can

581
00:54:41,220 --> 00:54:41,800
keep going.

582
00:54:43,540 --> 00:54:48,720
City Council Mayor, you've probably seen me a couple of times, but my name is Michelle, and I've been a resident of

583
00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:50,540
testing for about eight years now.

584
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:56,240
Today I've come to voice my opposition on the usage of justice, accessibility on school grounds.

585
00:54:56,620 --> 00:54:59,940
While there's a myriad of concerns already following its parent company.

586
00:55:01,340 --> 00:55:10,280
What startles me is allowing a breach of privacy to numerous unsuspecting family and students that have been notified already of this agenda right now.

587
00:55:11,100 --> 00:55:19,340
While safety and person responses all well and said, many of these individuals are not where they're being actively recorded and potentially watched from different angles by police officers.

588
00:55:20,020 --> 00:55:25,180
It's already a state law in California that miners should not be filmed under any circumstances.

589
00:55:25,180 --> 00:55:29,960
data is contained indefinitely with the Fuchsia's axon system. It continues to build and

590
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:34,540
build forever creating an insane backlog. There's already an notorious case here in California

591
00:55:34,540 --> 00:55:40,600
when Defense Attorney Rick Horowitz, what apologies on his pronunciation, representing his juvenile

592
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:45,540
client, is forced to do unnecessary hurdles to obtain records for his client, but because of these

593
00:55:45,540 --> 00:55:50,500
very leacherous terms and agreements, he was being forced to choose whether to represent his

594
00:55:50,500 --> 00:55:55,980
high and fairly in the court of law. I am all for the police being adequately prepared to do their

595
00:55:55,980 --> 00:56:01,200
jobs, but increasing surveillance especially to an underrepresented group that do not actively

596
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:07,500
know how to represent their rights to some make a community safer. It will create a rift and trust.

597
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:12,720
As much of a defense of saying you have the most ethical police department, you have the best officers

598
00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:18,920
for the task. There will always be a failing in that system. There will always be a misidentification.

599
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,360
and there'll always be an accidental false alarm

600
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,620
and to simply officers ready for a problem,

601
00:56:24,720 --> 00:56:27,980
to a vulnerable place as a school is troubling enough.

602
00:56:28,740 --> 00:56:31,380
I'll ask who here in the council at the police station

603
00:56:31,380 --> 00:56:33,420
will be responsible when an example

604
00:56:33,420 --> 00:56:35,480
is the next ice raid will happen.

605
00:56:35,780 --> 00:56:37,520
That threat is always going to be there

606
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,440
and will you be the ones to refuse

607
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,360
when a federal ice agent demands that you hand over

608
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,420
all this pretty new data you've practically curated

609
00:56:45,420 --> 00:56:46,720
for them to misuse?

610
00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:52,540
A poll up this paragraph in the MOU agenda which states otherwise, the Department may share

611
00:56:52,540 --> 00:56:57,980
or release video information to other local state or federal law enforcement slash public

612
00:56:57,980 --> 00:57:03,660
safety agencies during the performance of duty to enhance a coordinated public safety response

613
00:57:03,660 --> 00:57:04,620
to investigation.

614
00:57:05,540 --> 00:57:09,460
I ask you to reconsider not connect the fuchsious system to school districts.

615
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:14,160
School should be a safe place to go to, not the next prediction of when danger is going

616
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:18,660
strike next. You'll only be cleaning up a mess of your own making if you continue down this

617
00:57:18,660 --> 00:57:20,680
rail. Thank you.

618
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:28,960
We have one speaker on Zoom, Andrea Foster.

619
00:57:32,820 --> 00:57:36,360
Hello, Naomi. Yes, we can go ahead. Great. Thank you.

620
00:57:36,740 --> 00:57:41,100
My name is Andrea Foster. I'm a resident of Tuston and I am asking the City Council to oppose

621
00:57:41,100 --> 00:57:45,500
the MOU between Tuston Unified School District and Tuston Police Department to bring the

622
00:57:45,500 --> 00:57:47,320
on future systems to our schools.

623
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,880
These cameras are tracking our movements in building

624
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:51,940
these databases on all of us.

625
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,400
It does not matter which companies cameras are watching.

626
00:57:54,900 --> 00:57:55,980
They all share the same problems.

627
00:57:56,420 --> 00:57:58,580
There's no transparency, no oversight,

628
00:57:58,740 --> 00:58:01,020
and no accountability for how our data is collected,

629
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,700
stored or misused, all of which means no privacy.

630
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,500
I do not, as a mother, and future testing unified parents

631
00:58:07,500 --> 00:58:09,500
supporting this systems into our school

632
00:58:09,500 --> 00:58:11,240
and delivering images of our children

633
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,280
to a company over which we have no control.

634
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:17,220
Well, technically legal, it is a flagrant violation of the spirit of the Fourth Amendment,

635
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,900
which protects us against unreasonable search and seizure.

636
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:24,540
Now, we're all monitored all the time, and this MOU will extend this to our children with

637
00:58:24,540 --> 00:58:25,680
no suspicion of wrongdoing.

638
00:58:26,180 --> 00:58:28,460
I urge you not to allow this MOU to move forward.

639
00:58:28,780 --> 00:58:29,500
Thank you.

640
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:31,960
Thank you.

641
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:33,120
Do you have any other speakers?

642
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:35,160
No, Mr. Mayor.

643
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:36,140
Anybody in the room?

644
00:58:39,260 --> 00:58:39,520
Okay.

645
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:39,560
Okay.

646
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:43,780
I do have one request to poll, and I have them from the consent calendar.

647
00:58:44,380 --> 00:58:46,520
Number 10, shallows requested to poll item eight.

648
00:58:46,580 --> 00:58:47,580
Do I have any other request?

649
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:50,520
Item 10.

650
00:58:51,940 --> 00:58:52,080
Nine.

651
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:52,800
Item 10.

652
00:58:53,620 --> 00:58:56,160
Council Member Fink is requested to poll item December 9 and 10.

653
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,220
So we have eight and nine and 10 being polled in the other request.

654
00:59:00,670 --> 00:59:00,950
Okay.

655
00:59:01,050 --> 00:59:03,030
Do I have a motion for the balance?

656
00:59:04,970 --> 00:59:05,370
Okay.

657
00:59:06,490 --> 00:59:07,370
We have a motion.

658
00:59:07,610 --> 00:59:08,130
And a second.

659
00:59:08,230 --> 00:59:09,030
Can Madam City Clerk.

660
00:59:10,530 --> 00:59:12,150
Council Member Nielsen?

661
00:59:12,250 --> 00:59:12,470
Yes.

662
00:59:12,870 --> 00:59:13,750
Council Member Fein?

663
00:59:14,490 --> 00:59:15,550
Council Member Gallagher?

664
00:59:16,310 --> 00:59:17,070
Mayor Potempo?

665
00:59:17,650 --> 00:59:18,010
Aye.

666
00:59:18,750 --> 00:59:19,790
Mayor Lumbard?

667
00:59:20,570 --> 00:59:20,730
Aye.

668
00:59:21,270 --> 00:59:22,230
Motion passes 50.

669
00:59:23,570 --> 00:59:24,350
Thank you.

670
00:59:26,070 --> 00:59:26,190
All right.

671
00:59:26,330 --> 00:59:26,670
I'm number eight.

672
00:59:26,990 --> 00:59:28,250
Probably does not need an introduction.

673
00:59:28,490 --> 00:59:30,730
But it is the memorandum of understanding with

674
00:59:30,730 --> 00:59:32,950
Session Unified School District and Test and Police Department?

675
00:59:33,610 --> 00:59:34,150
No problem.

676
00:59:34,490 --> 00:59:34,990
Great. Thank you.

677
00:59:35,030 --> 00:59:35,770
Appreciate Mr. Mayor.

678
00:59:35,770 --> 00:59:41,730
I just want to acknowledge all the comments that the folks have made out out there tonight

679
00:59:41,730 --> 00:59:45,850
staying in their opposition to this memorandum of understanding.

680
00:59:46,890 --> 00:59:49,210
I personally am a big proponent of public safety.

681
00:59:49,290 --> 00:59:54,230
I've been a big proponent of school safety and actually very supportive of this MOU.

682
00:59:54,990 --> 00:59:59,150
The intent of this is not to surveil children of students.

683
00:59:59,150 --> 00:59:59,930
It's just...

684
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:08,260
Just to, in a moment of crisis, to allow the police to be prepared to actually show up and respond appropriately to keep our children safe.

685
01:00:09,100 --> 01:00:13,800
I heard a couple of words, you know, catastrophic, catastrophic is death of a child.

686
01:00:13,900 --> 01:00:28,800
Unfortunately, we live in a society where we've seen way too much violence at our schools and on our streets, and this is an attempt to actually try to protect our young boys and girls that are going to school.

687
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,720
and avoid something that's a much more catastrophic,

688
01:00:33,460 --> 01:00:34,960
which is again the death of a child.

689
01:00:35,980 --> 01:00:37,400
Schools should be a place of safety.

690
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,220
One of the speakers actually said that I agree.

691
01:00:39,460 --> 01:00:41,880
That school should be a place where children can go.

692
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:43,340
Enjoy their days.

693
01:00:43,540 --> 01:00:46,120
They can learn and then come back to their parents.

694
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,980
So I really want to thank the Chief of Police, the City Manager,

695
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,560
and especially Tuston Unified for the collaboration that we've had

696
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:57,340
to look at ways that we can actually ensure that we've got the right

697
01:00:57,340 --> 01:01:02,480
guard rails on this program and to assure that it's deployed properly and the event that there

698
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:07,000
is an active shooter situation that police can be prepared to show up and they can be prepared

699
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:07,720
to save lives.

700
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:11,180
So again, with that, I would give you the item Mr. Mayor.

701
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,920
Okay, we have a motion on the floor to have a second.

702
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:15,140
All in our game for the comments.

703
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:15,540
Thank you, sir.

704
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:16,780
Motion on the second.

705
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:18,080
Do you want to speak?

706
01:01:18,620 --> 01:01:18,640
Yeah, sure.

707
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:18,980
Good.

708
01:01:19,780 --> 01:01:20,300
Thank you, Mayor.

709
01:01:21,060 --> 01:01:27,300
And I'll echo everything that Councilman Prishnell said, but I also want to address folks who

710
01:01:27,300 --> 01:01:30,560
spoken about this specifically on two fronts.

711
01:01:30,660 --> 01:01:35,020
One is, these are not, I don't know,

712
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:36,800
I'll ask to see Matt, should I correct me if I'm wrong,

713
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,340
on this point, or the chief of police is back there.

714
01:01:39,780 --> 01:01:44,100
But these are not cameras that the city is installing,

715
01:01:44,980 --> 01:01:45,860
or that the city owns.

716
01:01:46,060 --> 01:01:49,280
These are cameras that the school district has on campus,

717
01:01:49,460 --> 01:01:51,000
and I see the chief nodding is said yes,

718
01:01:51,060 --> 01:01:51,700
and I've got this right.

719
01:01:52,460 --> 01:01:54,660
So these are our decision tonight,

720
01:01:54,820 --> 01:01:56,120
one way or another, doesn't change

721
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:57,960
whether there's going to be the cameras in the schools.

722
01:01:58,260 --> 01:01:59,080
Those are there.

723
01:01:59,300 --> 01:02:03,900
The school districts has decided that that's an important thing

724
01:02:03,900 --> 01:02:05,940
to have and I'll address that in a moment.

725
01:02:06,540 --> 01:02:10,340
But our decision tonight is whether or not

726
01:02:11,620 --> 01:02:15,140
with the cameras that the school district have,

727
01:02:15,820 --> 01:02:18,900
whether in circumstances that I think Mr. Pagone mentioned

728
01:02:18,900 --> 01:02:21,700
are limited and maybe we don't have it all right,

729
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:23,300
but I think we've got a lot there

730
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:25,700
that the police can access that,

731
01:02:25,700 --> 01:02:32,540
whether it's an active shooter situation or subsequent investigation, this simply allows the

732
01:02:32,540 --> 01:02:35,160
train law enforcement to deal with those.

733
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:42,760
So I realize and I recognize the concerns of this foster mentioned, a future to U.S.

734
01:02:42,780 --> 01:02:45,200
the apparent, that's me coming too.

735
01:02:45,740 --> 01:02:50,300
The concerns that the parents have that kids would have, but those cameras are there.

736
01:02:50,300 --> 01:03:00,700
So we're not making that decision the decision denied is making is allowing a situation whereby the trained bond forcement folks can have access when it's necessary

737
01:03:00,700 --> 01:03:07,500
So I just wanted to point that out the second thing I wanted to raise is I also agree with who said this

738
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:08,760
Lena

739
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:18,500
Says that you know more police did not necessarily mean safe for schools and I know that I know an art police department art has

740
01:03:18,500 --> 01:03:36,400
tries to find ways to ensure safety without a police presence to make sure that it is not a situation where kids, or when it's not in schools out in the world, you know, do not feel like they're inundated by a police where it's not necessary.

741
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,040
So I agree with that, but I do think that's the philosophy.

742
01:03:40,260 --> 01:03:46,260
The third thing is, I do understand the comments that have been made that relate this

743
01:03:46,260 --> 01:03:51,640
to the flock camera issues and the ice issues that have been brought up.

744
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,180
And I'll just say a couple of things about that briefly.

745
01:03:54,400 --> 01:04:01,680
One is, again, the school district has these cameras, has this technology.

746
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:07,880
And I think, you know, the concerns are valid, but I think folks would understand having

747
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:11,940
these at schools and the concerns that the school district have, the parents might

748
01:04:11,940 --> 01:04:17,660
have, that are different than us as adults out in the world might have as the flawed cameras.

749
01:04:17,980 --> 01:04:25,420
The second is I know that our police department is committed to following California law,

750
01:04:26,140 --> 01:04:31,580
which prohibits sharing resources and information with ICE for immigration enforcement.

751
01:04:31,580 --> 01:04:36,780
And I know that the school district is committed to following California a lot of

752
01:04:36,780 --> 01:04:39,760
make sure that there's not sharing of information for immigration enforcement.

753
01:04:40,980 --> 01:04:47,520
The incident that this Berges mentioned behind us in high school with ICE a month or

754
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:53,260
two back now, one of the biggest concerns of the school board members was the school safety

755
01:04:53,260 --> 01:04:58,940
and how to respond in the event of further ICE activity and making sure that the kids

756
01:04:58,940 --> 01:04:59,940
we're not being the same.

757
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:08,660
Injective immigration enforcement. So I will mention flock briefly later, but I share a lot of the concerns

758
01:05:08,660 --> 01:05:13,920
that we raised about flock, and I understand the concerns that are here about this. But these

759
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:18,720
cameras are there. They're going to be employed by the school district. I do think it makes

760
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:24,520
the most sense to make sure that if they're being used, they're being employed to make sure that

761
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:28,880
we have it in the hands of our public safety professionals to make sure that we can use them

762
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:32,640
I appreciate the comments on making sure their safeguards are trying to take notes.

763
01:05:32,780 --> 01:05:36,360
I'm probably going to follow up with you more later to make sure that some of these ideas

764
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,820
that we can implement them, but I do think that it's important that on this.

765
01:05:40,140 --> 01:05:42,700
And I think that's different than the other things that folks are talking about.

766
01:05:42,940 --> 01:05:44,920
But I think this MOU does make sense.

767
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:46,400
So thank you, Mayor.

768
01:05:46,740 --> 01:05:47,180
That's me, Y'all.

769
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:49,000
All right.

770
01:05:49,180 --> 01:05:56,420
I'll keep my comments brief and really focused on the questions tonight that were for item A and Council

771
01:05:56,420 --> 01:06:01,160
number think is correct. These are not our cameras, these belong to TSD. This is just giving

772
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:07,060
us access. And in 2025, there was over 200 school shootings the year before that over 300.

773
01:06:07,260 --> 01:06:11,720
This is the reality we live in. I have small children that are in our local elementary schools

774
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:16,220
and they have to practice active shooter training. I didn't do that when I was again. That's

775
01:06:16,220 --> 01:06:20,600
the reality today. And if we're putting our kids through that and we're teaching them that every

776
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:25,020
minute matters, we better be doing our part to keep our kids safe. And to me, this is extremely

777
01:06:25,020 --> 01:06:29,540
important because every minute matters and what this MOU does is it gives access to the police

778
01:06:29,540 --> 01:06:32,540
to respond quickly, efficiently, and safely for everyone.

779
01:06:33,220 --> 01:06:36,140
And so I adamantly approve this item today.

780
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:38,340
Council Member Nielsen.

781
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:39,640
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

782
01:06:41,020 --> 01:06:43,820
I'm not going to go over the ground that everybody else has talked about.

783
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:52,100
I'm just going to say that I thank TUSD for having a cooperative attitude and looking to

784
01:06:52,100 --> 01:06:55,780
trying to make things safer for our kids in schools.

785
01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:00,700
And I think that is a first step in hopefully in many other

786
01:07:00,700 --> 01:07:04,680
steps at the city and the school district can work together

787
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:08,040
on to improve the education and safety of our students.

788
01:07:09,100 --> 01:07:11,400
Also, I want to thank the police department and Chief

789
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,380
Theliz, thank you for putting this together.

790
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:17,360
I know that reading through it, there's a ton of guard

791
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,240
rails on this, so thank you for working through that.

792
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:21,680
So, it's all I have Mr. Mayor.

793
01:07:23,420 --> 01:07:23,860
Thank you.

794
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:26,300
I guess I'll reiterate some points that have already been made

795
01:07:26,300 --> 01:07:29,780
of a little different finer point on the constitutional issues.

796
01:07:30,460 --> 01:07:33,920
This is not a clear cut issue as far as the surveillance

797
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:37,100
government surveillance of our society and where that's going.

798
01:07:37,420 --> 01:07:39,420
It's not the vote that we're taking tonight to count some

799
01:07:39,420 --> 01:07:43,080
member things point, but cameras in the public right of way.

800
01:07:43,540 --> 01:07:46,400
I suspect we'll be litigated and we'll go before the Supreme Court.

801
01:07:46,500 --> 01:07:48,260
This is a real issue.

802
01:07:48,260 --> 01:08:03,900
And to those who say that there are cameras everywhere, that's true, but the Constitution prohibits government from invading privacy and where a private company doesn't have those prohibitions necessarily under federal law. So it's not easy.

803
01:08:04,460 --> 01:08:15,440
And I think what we're trying to communicate tonight to our communities that we're listening to the concerns, we have similar concerns, right? I don't want folks looking at my kids in school if it's not necessary, but in the event of an emergency.

804
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:21,180
I absolutely want the police to be able to see what's going on inside that school and be able to respond appropriately.

805
01:08:21,780 --> 01:08:24,780
So I also support it in Madam City Clerk.

806
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:26,540
Please call the roll.

807
01:08:27,980 --> 01:08:29,100
Councilmember Nielsen?

808
01:08:29,340 --> 01:08:29,540
Yes.

809
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:30,700
Councilmember Fink?

810
01:08:31,020 --> 01:08:31,180
Aye.

811
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:32,560
Councilmember Gallagher?

812
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:32,860
Aye.

813
01:08:33,100 --> 01:08:34,300
Mayor Protenschnell?

814
01:08:35,100 --> 01:08:35,780
Mayor Lumbart?

815
01:08:35,900 --> 01:08:36,140
Aye.

816
01:08:36,420 --> 01:08:37,640
Motion passes five zero.

817
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:38,340
Thank you.

818
01:08:39,980 --> 01:08:40,140
All right.

819
01:08:40,140 --> 01:08:43,420
Next is item number nine that was pulled by Councilmember Fink.

820
01:08:43,420 --> 01:08:51,680
Recommendation proposals to proceed to round two for the competitive offering for 44 acres of city on real property within neighborhoods d and e of the testing like a specific plan counts.

821
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:56,600
Mayor, I just

822
01:08:57,140 --> 01:08:59,860
Thanks, I wanted to just briefly

823
01:09:00,440 --> 01:09:04,220
Make sure that we had decide them out in discussion. Obviously,

824
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,120
It's a large chunk of property

825
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:09,400
That we're

826
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:17,600
I lost the word. I was going to use hurtling towards development, but hurtlings aren't the right word.

827
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:20,120
But we're moving forward towards development of it.

828
01:09:20,300 --> 01:09:26,000
And I appreciate, I see Jeff from our broker,

829
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:29,760
who spent a lot of time briefing folks yesterday.

830
01:09:31,100 --> 01:09:33,280
I wanted to say this about it.

831
01:09:33,300 --> 01:09:36,660
There was one concept that was proposed

832
01:09:36,660 --> 01:09:39,420
that I'm disappointed to make the final cut, which

833
01:09:39,420 --> 01:09:42,820
is I think it was like 500 square feet of office space

834
01:09:42,820 --> 01:09:51,760
and these over this really impressive, almost iconic office entrance along Broadway, but

835
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:58,080
Ranka that would have been an impressive entrance and an impressive addition to the city.

836
01:09:58,760 --> 01:09:59,940
And I spent a lot of time with our broke.

837
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:11,000
Members and Deputy City Manager Brian Monkgriff. And I'll say you mentioned others about that. And they sort

838
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:21,220
of convinced me that that project had enough holes in its funding and it's set up to make it

839
01:10:21,220 --> 01:10:29,160
not necessarily the right developer. But as we go forward, I want us to think about the

840
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:35,360
concept there because there's a couple that do are really big office sort of landmark buildings

841
01:10:36,500 --> 01:10:40,800
with developers that maybe have their pieces a little bit together. And the point that sort

842
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:51,420
of came up on this was how much do we want to get this done now. That idea might take longer.

843
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:58,560
And the thing that convinced me is that idea might take infinite, right? It might not happen.

844
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:03,900
And as I said, and I wanted to share with the Council as we go forward, if it's something

845
01:11:03,900 --> 01:11:08,380
that's sort of iconic and something that's sort of a landmark, you know, I know that

846
01:11:08,380 --> 01:11:11,540
we are all very committed to getting stuff done at the legs, quickly.

847
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:16,620
But if it took a couple of extra years to do something that's really unique and special down

848
01:11:16,620 --> 01:11:21,660
there, we should be willing to take that time.

849
01:11:21,940 --> 01:11:22,960
We don't want to wait forever.

850
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:24,520
And so they convince me of that.

851
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:29,840
but as we go back and do the next steps, I encourage our brokers, our staff, our ad hoc committee,

852
01:11:31,140 --> 01:11:34,960
encourage the bidders as they come in with their second phase that we're improving now

853
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:41,220
to really look at something that's really sort of a landmark like that.

854
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:45,420
So I want to just ask that they do that as they come back.

855
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:46,480
Mr. Mayor.

856
01:11:46,740 --> 01:11:46,760
Yeah.

857
01:11:46,940 --> 01:11:47,520
Councilmember Eels, Senator.

858
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:48,520
Yeah.

859
01:11:49,060 --> 01:11:50,160
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

860
01:11:51,300 --> 01:11:54,660
First of all, I want to thank the ad hoc for all the work they did on this.

861
01:11:54,780 --> 01:12:00,880
I know that going through each of the proposals and how many proposals there were and

862
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:05,120
comparing them all, along with our real estate folks,

863
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:08,760
it's a heavy lift.

864
01:12:09,620 --> 01:12:12,160
So thank you very much for doing that, first of all.

865
01:12:12,260 --> 01:12:19,560
Second of all, Council Member Fake mentioned time frame, certainly on the Council earlier

866
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:23,240
and most of you, well, definitely all of you.

867
01:12:25,060 --> 01:12:32,220
We had development at one development site per year basically, very, very slow.

868
01:12:32,740 --> 01:12:40,080
And what happened to us was that the city or the state society to get involved and put on more regulation.

869
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:47,560
And that's going to continue because the state wants to push their priorities versus,

870
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:59,980
services with customs priorities are. So the longer we wait to do development, the longer we are at risk for Sacramento doing centralized planning and I don't think that's good for anyone in testing.

871
01:13:00,860 --> 01:13:08,700
But we do want to be careful certainly. I think that's a valid point and I think that the ad hoc committee has done a superb job of doing that.

872
01:13:08,700 --> 01:13:09,860
Thank you, Mr. Ratz.

873
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:15,360
Thank you, Councilmember Nielsen.

874
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:19,660
I want to extend my gratitude to the staff as well and our broker.

875
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:20,900
This was a lot of work.

876
01:13:21,300 --> 01:13:23,000
And I think that really says something.

877
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:25,940
In my time on council and I think you probably agree,

878
01:13:26,260 --> 01:13:29,660
this is the most robust turnout I think we've ever seen.

879
01:13:30,140 --> 01:13:34,580
The amount of the level of response we are getting from the building and

880
01:13:34,580 --> 01:13:36,880
development community is astounding.

881
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:39,020
And we'll put those words in the broker's mouth.

882
01:13:39,020 --> 01:13:43,320
but it's a lot, and these are all top-notch developers.

883
01:13:43,620 --> 01:13:49,900
I mean, national level, they are building iconic facilities all over the country.

884
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:56,840
So I'm proud that our city manager has cultivated a team that is created the atmosphere

885
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:57,620
where that's happening.

886
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:03,240
I think that's clearly a reflection of the work that our team is doing to attract that

887
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:05,560
type of investment from this level of player.

888
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:11,080
And so with that said, it is a complicated process to balance all these land use needs,

889
01:14:11,220 --> 01:14:16,100
the market needs, and trying to time all this, I can tell you having been in this seat

890
01:14:16,100 --> 01:14:16,740
for a while.

891
01:14:17,100 --> 01:14:20,420
I've seen a lot of pretty pictures never happened, because the pretty pictures don't always

892
01:14:20,420 --> 01:14:20,800
pencil.

893
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:24,860
And so you really do have to balance and scrutinize and dig in.

894
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:30,540
I will say though, one of the, when you talk about iconic, we don't necessarily want to.

895
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:34,120
And this is something that we've been talking about with the community through all of these interactions,

896
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,040
is that we've laid out the framework plan.

897
01:14:36,060 --> 01:14:39,080
A lot of you might remember if you went there in the central part

898
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:41,900
of the testing course where we're really focusing on creating

899
01:14:41,900 --> 01:14:48,380
some real iconic opportunities there to pay tribute to our military heritage,

900
01:14:48,780 --> 01:14:51,340
to create some civic centers, to do some really large parks.

901
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:55,020
And so those iconic structures won't be everywhere because we have to balance

902
01:14:55,020 --> 01:14:56,960
the cost to be able to pay for those.

903
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:58,820
And so we're always trying to find that balance.

904
01:14:58,820 --> 01:14:59,940
So, they're will...

905
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,760
Maybe those iconic opportunities, they just won't be everywhere, and they will be consistent with

906
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:07,720
what we have been communicating with the public and what we've been hearing in response.

907
01:15:08,260 --> 01:15:10,100
So I just want to make those comments from the ad hoc.

908
01:15:10,900 --> 01:15:13,040
I appreciate that, and I appreciate what everybody said.

909
01:15:13,260 --> 01:15:19,140
I agree that there are opportunities, though, as we move forward in this process, to incorporate

910
01:15:19,140 --> 01:15:23,620
some feedback of, hey, let's, if we've got a real cool concept, let's see if it can

911
01:15:23,620 --> 01:15:24,120
work out.

912
01:15:24,420 --> 01:15:27,560
I know which one you're talking about, and I look, it looked interesting.

913
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:31,220
Could I just say I don't think I used the word iconic, but I'm glad that you did because that's the word

914
01:15:31,220 --> 01:15:34,060
I meant so thank you for the right word. Yeah, that is the word

915
01:15:34,060 --> 01:15:36,120
That's exactly what we're gonna hurt all towards the votes

916
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,380
And that I'm sitting clear. Can you take the vote, please?

917
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:47,500
Councilmember Nielsen. Yes.

918
01:15:48,480 --> 01:15:49,640
Councilmember Fink. I

919
01:15:50,700 --> 01:15:58,540
Councilmember Gallagher. Hi. Mayor Pro Tempest now. Hi. Mayor Lumberd. Hi. Motion passes Pfizer up. Thank you.

920
01:15:58,780 --> 01:16:01,200
I don't remember Chen was pulled by Councilmember Fink and it's the first reading

921
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:07,760
ordinance 158 to a many testing city code chapter four section one four one five powers and duties generally counts

922
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:08,440
my think.

923
01:16:11,770 --> 01:16:18,430
Thank you Mayor. Yeah, I wanted to talk about this and I look I appreciate that staff is

924
01:16:18,430 --> 01:16:27,010
brought this forward to try to sort of clean up or city code get some consistency with it and I think that's

925
01:16:27,010 --> 01:16:34,710
important, but as we're going through it, I realized that perhaps that consistency may take

926
01:16:34,710 --> 01:16:39,790
us, positively, in the wrong direction and suggest that we might want to change the course

927
01:16:39,790 --> 01:16:40,250
about this.

928
01:16:40,250 --> 01:16:45,250
So, what it is is just for the public, it's cleaning up the code so that it talks about how the

929
01:16:45,250 --> 01:16:51,670
city manager would appoint the city clerk and the city treasurer and the city clerk issue

930
01:16:51,670 --> 01:16:56,950
sort of taking care of, I don't know, it doesn't years ago or so, the city treasurer is

931
01:16:56,950 --> 01:17:02,910
an issue that sort of, I guess was done as to the specific treasurer with a resolution

932
01:17:02,910 --> 01:17:03,570
at one point.

933
01:17:04,610 --> 01:17:11,810
So my point is this, I think that perhaps we might be going in the wrong direction and suggest

934
01:17:11,810 --> 01:17:13,210
that we go the other way.

935
01:17:15,130 --> 01:17:19,030
And all those of this item came up, what sort of triggered my mind about it was something that

936
01:17:19,030 --> 01:17:24,070
happened in Huntington Beach recently, and I am not one who usually uses the City of Huntington

937
01:17:24,070 --> 01:17:28,890
Beach as a standard bearer for best practices, but as they were coming up with something,

938
01:17:29,290 --> 01:17:34,570
they have a separately elected treasurer who is also the current treasurer who was appointed,

939
01:17:34,630 --> 01:17:38,570
but they have a separately elected treasurer, and there was a matter being discussed, and

940
01:17:38,570 --> 01:17:44,210
the treasurer said to the City Council, I believe if you do this in five years, the city

941
01:17:44,210 --> 01:17:46,210
will file chapter 9 bankruptcy.

942
01:17:46,210 --> 01:17:52,610
Now, I have no idea if that's an accurate statement if it's the right analysis, but what

943
01:17:52,610 --> 01:18:01,350
it showed to me was that it is a separate independent voice giving feedback to the city

944
01:18:01,350 --> 01:18:09,090
council about how the city government ought to be on the function and it is a separate

945
01:18:09,090 --> 01:18:10,430
piece of oversight.

946
01:18:11,150 --> 01:18:15,290
So right now as we sort of have it and as we're going forward with these code amendments,

947
01:18:15,290 --> 01:18:22,670
We create a single point with the city manager appointing the city clerk, appointing the city

948
01:18:22,670 --> 01:18:27,550
treasurer, instead of having some other checks, and I think Council Member Gallagher

949
01:18:27,550 --> 01:18:33,250
was sort of praising our current city manager and a team that's assembled and moving forward.

950
01:18:34,370 --> 01:18:39,870
And in some ways the most dangerous time to make changes like this to address is when things

951
01:18:39,870 --> 01:18:45,950
good because you assume that there's always going to be an effective system, right?

952
01:18:46,350 --> 01:18:51,030
So this is not at all about our current city manager's staff, in fact, it's the opposite.

953
01:18:51,850 --> 01:18:58,010
In some ways, as we're going forward, well, it seems like we can do this as opposed to

954
01:18:58,010 --> 01:19:03,250
saying, wait a second, it's a good idea to have a couple of city staffers who's job is

955
01:19:03,250 --> 01:19:06,690
dependent on the city council solely and not solely on the city manager.

956
01:19:06,690 --> 01:19:09,570
So in case there is a problem, there is a separate check.

957
01:19:09,930 --> 01:19:14,210
Now, as a practical matter, a lot of times, especially when things are going well, as they are,

958
01:19:14,970 --> 01:19:15,910
we won't have those issues.

959
01:19:16,050 --> 01:19:18,510
But as we set this up, I think it's an issue.

960
01:19:18,630 --> 01:19:24,550
So I actually would suggest that we send this back and sort of go back to having the council

961
01:19:25,250 --> 01:19:28,890
appoint directly the city manager rather than amend the code to go the other way.

962
01:19:32,570 --> 01:19:58,390
So being around when actually the elected city clerk was changed to being an appointed city clerk, I think I was in 2015 if I remember right, one of the arguments there and also we'll talk about treasurer in just a second, but for the city clerk, it was becoming political, little more political and needs to be, and creating.

963
01:19:58,390 --> 01:19:59,950
and issue.

964
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:12,060
And so, that was changed. So, the treasurer, unfortunately, Mr. Jeffrey's past away, who was the independent treasurer at the time, and then it was appointed to the finance director.

965
01:20:13,940 --> 01:20:25,720
To be honest, I had thought that city manager in the New Year's Eve here already had that authority, but to kind of talk a little bit about council member thanks points.

966
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:31,840
I think it's good to investigate these things, I think it's good to look through them.

967
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:42,760
But I think we are the check on the city manager, our council is, so we take care of the

968
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:49,660
city manager, meaning we hire them, we hopefully never do fire them, and we work with them.

969
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:54,980
And we're the check on the appointed city clerk or for any of the directors in our city.

970
01:20:54,980 --> 01:20:59,700
So, I think that's enough of a check for me.

971
01:21:01,380 --> 01:21:10,020
I applaud the fact that Council Member Fank is looking at other checks, but I think it's probably more redundant than necessary.

972
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:11,820
Thank you, Mr. Rick.

973
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:12,820
Thank you, Mr. McGuller.

974
01:21:15,290 --> 01:21:17,790
So, it's an exhausted way to say that.

975
01:21:18,550 --> 01:21:19,570
I had a big long ago.

976
01:21:20,530 --> 01:21:24,230
So, Huntington Beach, I believe their treasurer's elected.

977
01:21:24,230 --> 01:21:28,410
And that comes with the whole other host of issues.

978
01:21:28,590 --> 01:21:33,010
One of the things that's so amazing about Tassen is that it's just not very political.

979
01:21:33,270 --> 01:21:39,290
It's focused on what's the best thing for the community and the politics just really stop at the door.

980
01:21:39,650 --> 01:21:41,990
And I think that's what's really special about our community.

981
01:21:42,130 --> 01:21:49,730
And I'm just so leary of taking any steps that bring us closer to the councils appointing these different positions.

982
01:21:49,730 --> 01:21:57,630
But I do understand the concern about the, you know, having the checks and balances, I will

983
01:21:57,630 --> 01:22:01,510
save for the financials, which is really the most important one, and that's the example

984
01:22:01,510 --> 01:22:06,250
you gave, is that we do have a third party audit, I believe it's every year.

985
01:22:06,790 --> 01:22:11,890
And so we are having our financials audited, and I think to the Council Member Nielsen's point

986
01:22:11,890 --> 01:22:18,630
as well, that it's then on us as the, you know, fiduciary backstop to make sure that our city

987
01:22:18,630 --> 01:22:20,570
there's not to think of one by us.

988
01:22:24,180 --> 01:22:29,760
All right. I'll just say that I agree with the perspective of having more oversight.

989
01:22:30,220 --> 01:22:36,220
I also agree with the approach of funneling the authority in our oversight into one office

990
01:22:36,220 --> 01:22:38,960
and holding that person accountable for the operation.

991
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:45,080
And I also want to raise that, you know, I see my role as a mayor and as a council person

992
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:49,420
as a citizen relying on professional advice from professional staff members.

993
01:22:49,420 --> 01:22:56,640
And I think that's why we've gone where we have and in this instance or city attorney, also

994
01:22:56,640 --> 01:23:01,580
in Huntington Beach, where it's directly elected, I think you run into the risk of politicizing

995
01:23:01,580 --> 01:23:02,300
the offices.

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01:23:02,380 --> 01:23:07,280
And I would prefer to maintain our oversight as a citizen body over professionals from

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01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:07,740
my perspective.

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01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:08,820
So.

999
01:23:08,820 --> 01:23:12,040
Can I just, you know, we'll clarify something about what I'm saying.

1000
01:23:12,440 --> 01:23:16,380
I'm, and I appreciate what everyone's saying, and we may talk about this more later.

1001
01:23:16,380 --> 01:23:22,840
But I'm not suggesting that any of these position can work to elected positions, and I agree with

1002
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:26,660
everybody about that. I'm just talking about appointments and how those work, so I just wanted

1003
01:23:26,660 --> 01:23:31,140
to clarify. I'm not a driver of an elected city attorney like they have in Huntington Beach.

1004
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:35,200
Right, thank you. Madam City Clerk, roll call, please. Mr. Mayor.

1005
01:23:35,540 --> 01:23:36,580
Yes, Mr. City Clerk.

1006
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:40,780
Yes, Mr. City Clerk. I'm a motion and second on that one, as well as the item number nine.

1007
01:23:40,780 --> 01:23:43,180
But on this one for now.

1008
01:23:43,420 --> 01:23:44,180
I don't understand.

1009
01:23:44,220 --> 01:23:45,340
All make a motion.

1010
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:46,240
We have a second.

1011
01:23:46,540 --> 01:23:47,980
Okay, Madam City Clerk, roll call, please.

1012
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:50,280
For item number nine.

1013
01:23:50,500 --> 01:23:51,080
I'm sorry.

1014
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:52,200
We're doing 10 first.

1015
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:54,580
Council member Nielsen.

1016
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:55,140
Yes.

1017
01:23:55,420 --> 01:23:56,340
Council member Fink.

1018
01:23:56,420 --> 01:23:56,920
May.

1019
01:23:57,520 --> 01:23:58,560
Council member Gallagher.

1020
01:23:59,500 --> 01:24:00,080
Mayor Potempo.

1021
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:00,780
Aye.

1022
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:01,920
Mayor Lumber.

1023
01:24:02,540 --> 01:24:02,760
Aye.

1024
01:24:03,740 --> 01:24:07,080
Motion passes for one with council member Fink dissenting.

1025
01:24:07,300 --> 01:24:07,560
All right.

1026
01:24:07,620 --> 01:24:08,120
Let's pre open.

1027
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:11,760
I don't remember nine. I'll move staff recommendation to have a second. I'll make second.

1028
01:24:11,860 --> 01:24:14,360
Okay, Madam City Clerk will call for. I don't remember nine again, please.

1029
01:24:15,140 --> 01:24:20,180
Councilmember Nielsen. Yes. Councilmember Fink. Aye. Councilmember Gallagher. Aye.

1030
01:24:20,440 --> 01:24:26,020
Mayor Protem's now. Aye. Mayor Lumberd. David, if you are elected, you probably wouldn't have got that.

1031
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:31,680
Thank you. Aye. Aye. Motion passes five zero.

1032
01:24:31,740 --> 01:24:36,400
Credit goes to the clerk. Right. Next we'll move to the public hearing portion of our agenda.

1033
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:38,540
we have one item tonight, which is the Development Agreement

1034
01:24:38,540 --> 01:24:41,400
and Tended Departual Maps subdivision conditional use permit design review

1035
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,340
and density bonus requests for the clear water

1036
01:24:43,340 --> 01:24:45,900
at test and legacy senior living project.

1037
01:24:45,900 --> 01:24:47,160
I'm going to open the public hearing

1038
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:52,300
and bring senior planner Jorge Maldonato to the podium.

1039
01:24:53,420 --> 01:24:53,860
Representation.

1040
01:24:54,780 --> 01:24:55,560
Good evening, Mr. Mayor.

1041
01:24:55,740 --> 01:24:57,360
Thank you for the introduction, Council members.

1042
01:24:58,500 --> 01:24:59,920
Let's go ahead and dive right into the project.

1043
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:18,820
Before you tonight, we have an application from Confluent Development, who is proposing to build a senior living community on an approximately six acre city owned parcel in the Tusson Legacy area. The project is named Clearwater at Tusson Legacy.

1044
01:25:18,820 --> 01:25:24,020
The project includes two separate buildings with distinct uses and purposes.

1045
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:31,940
Building one is a five story structure and is composed of 172 apartments for active seniors.

1046
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:36,400
26 of these units would be income restricted for lower income households.

1047
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:46,700
Building two is two stories and is an assisted living in memory care facility with 103 rooms with a capacity for 134 beds.

1048
01:25:46,700 --> 01:25:49,600
both buildings include first floor parking garages.

1049
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:53,600
The project includes a variety of entitlement applications

1050
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:55,180
as shown at the top of the slide.

1051
01:25:59,550 --> 01:26:02,310
The project site is at the corner of Warner Avenue

1052
01:26:02,310 --> 01:26:05,350
and Armstrong Avenue and is identified in red

1053
01:26:05,350 --> 01:26:07,350
in the slide before you.

1054
01:26:07,670 --> 01:26:10,890
Again, this is an approximately six acre city owned parcel

1055
01:26:10,890 --> 01:26:13,190
and it is currently vacant.

1056
01:26:13,990 --> 01:26:17,990
It is bounded by veterans' way to the east

1057
01:26:17,990 --> 01:26:24,150
as well as John Johnson way to the south, across which will be the future Tussle Legacy Park

1058
01:26:24,150 --> 01:26:28,850
extension, and the landing neighborhood is beyond that even further south.

1059
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:34,060
Building one or the

1060
01:26:34,060 --> 01:26:40,140
active adult building sits on the left or west side of the site plane here, building two or

1061
01:26:40,140 --> 01:26:47,000
the assisted living facility is on the right. Main entry is taken from the south, from John Johnson

1062
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:53,200
way, which feeds a central roundabout that serves passenger loading and drop off, as well as

1063
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:58,680
both buildings parking structures. A secondary driveway is located on veteran's way to

1064
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:06,780
the right or the east, and serves the assisted living facility directly. The project includes

1065
01:27:06,780 --> 01:27:13,380
a subdivision to split the site into two parcels for conveyance purposes only, and is represented

1066
01:27:13,380 --> 01:27:18,120
the the law lines represented by the dash red line at the center of the site plan.

1067
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:23,980
The project also includes a variety of public improvements such as the construction and installation

1068
01:27:23,980 --> 01:27:29,100
of sidewalks, parkway landscaping, and more as described in the development agreement.

1069
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:38,480
Here are select elevations from the plan set. On the left is building one, the active adult building.

1070
01:27:38,940 --> 01:27:43,880
Again, it is five stories and about 71 feet tall. It's tall at its tallest point.

1071
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:48,520
And this building is located right at the intersection of Warner and Armstrong.

1072
01:27:49,780 --> 01:27:52,020
On the right is building to the care facility.

1073
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:57,140
It is two stories and stands a little more than 35 feet tall at its tallest point.

1074
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:08,580
Both buildings are proposed in an earthy, muted color palette with accent materials including things such as hearty board sighting, plaster and various textures and limestone.

1075
01:28:08,580 --> 01:28:09,560
The

1076
01:28:13,270 --> 01:28:17,570
project includes a density bonus request for building one, the active adult community.

1077
01:28:18,670 --> 01:28:27,410
Because 26 units are being reserved for lower income households, the applicant is entitled to a 38.75% density bonus,

1078
01:28:27,990 --> 01:28:33,170
bringing the total number of allowable residential units up to 173.

1079
01:28:34,150 --> 01:28:38,430
The applicant proposes to develop only 172 of those units.

1080
01:28:38,430 --> 01:28:45,430
The density bonus request includes one incentive request and development standard waivers as described in the report.

1081
01:28:50,110 --> 01:28:54,970
This planning area within the Tusson Legacy Specific Plan allows assisted living facilities,

1082
01:28:55,630 --> 01:28:58,450
subject to obtaining a conditional use permit or CUP.

1083
01:29:00,070 --> 01:29:04,150
Assisted living facilities serve seniors who need help with activities of daily living,

1084
01:29:04,410 --> 01:29:07,890
such as bathing, dressing, meals and medication management.

1085
01:29:09,310 --> 01:29:16,150
MemoryCare is a subset of assisted living and would be provided in a separate secure wing with

1086
01:29:16,150 --> 01:29:21,010
specifically trained staff for residents with Alzheimer's or other forms of dementia.

1087
01:29:22,570 --> 01:29:30,610
The proposed facility includes 103 rooms with capacity for 134 beds for assisted living residents.

1088
01:29:31,990 --> 01:29:36,010
The facility would be licensed and regulated by the California Department of Social Services

1089
01:29:36,010 --> 01:29:42,330
and includes high-quality amenities for its residents, including more than 18,000 square feet

1090
01:29:42,330 --> 01:29:50,770
of a secured interior courtyard and other amenities such as an onsite salon, a communal dining room, and more.

1091
01:29:56,050 --> 01:29:59,930
As it relates to Siqua and Environmental Review, and a Dendum was

1092
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:06,820
This was prepared for this project. The Addendum evaluated this project against the most recent supplemental

1093
01:30:06,820 --> 01:30:14,560
environmental impact report or EIR adopted in late 2024 from when the city added residential capacity to

1094
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:20,780
the legacy area to comply with arena requirement. The Addendum concludes that the project is within the scope

1095
01:30:20,780 --> 01:30:26,840
of development already analyzed by that previous supplemental EIR and that there would be no new significant

1096
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:32,780
effects. Therefore, no additional environmental reviews such as a new supplemental EAR is required.

1097
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:38,200
All mitigation measures applicable to this project are carried forward into the conditions of approval.

1098
01:30:42,990 --> 01:30:47,470
On August 11, the Planning Commission adopted Resolution 4553,

1099
01:30:48,030 --> 01:30:52,570
finding the sale of city owned land for the development of this project to be in

1100
01:30:52,570 --> 01:31:00,190
conformance with the general plan, as well as Resolution 4554 recommending that the city council

1101
01:31:00,190 --> 01:31:02,790
adopt the SQL Addendum and approve the project.

1102
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:08,880
Therefore, tonight staff recommends the city council

1103
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:16,340
take two actions. One to adopt resolution 26-43 adopting the SQL Addendum and approve the project,

1104
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:22,960
and two introducing and conducting first reading by title only of ordinance 1580 for the

1105
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:27,920
development agreement, which sets the terms and public benefits for building on and selling the

1106
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:28,660
on site.

1107
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:35,240
That concludes my presentation, and I am happy to take any questions.

1108
01:31:36,020 --> 01:31:42,380
Thank you. This is a public hearing, so we're going to receive public input, but do we have any questions for staff before that?

1109
01:31:43,910 --> 01:31:46,970
No. Okay. We may call you back up here in a second. Thank you for the presentation.

1110
01:31:48,430 --> 01:31:53,150
And actually, a public input for this item, if any members of the public wish to address the council, please submit a request to speak for them.

1111
01:31:53,150 --> 01:31:55,510
And if you're participating through Zoom, please raise your hand.

1112
01:31:55,950 --> 01:31:57,470
Adam City Clerk, any requests to speak?

1113
01:31:58,110 --> 01:31:58,910
No, Mr. Mayor.

1114
01:31:59,170 --> 01:31:59,850
Anybody in the room?

1115
01:32:01,390 --> 01:32:06,030
Okay, we'll close public input, and I'm going to note for the record that we did receive two

1116
01:32:06,030 --> 01:32:09,990
e-commerce for this item, one was from Gabriel Groen and the other from the Kennedy Commission,

1117
01:32:10,590 --> 01:32:13,850
and these comments were distributed to the City Council and made available to the public on

1118
01:32:13,850 --> 01:32:18,750
the City's website. With that, I'm going to close the public hearing. Bring it back to Council for

1119
01:32:18,750 --> 01:32:22,530
questions, comments, or discussion. Anybody want to start?

1120
01:32:22,530 --> 01:32:23,670
I don't

1121
01:32:26,420 --> 01:32:32,860
think we've already got them all answered.

1122
01:32:33,620 --> 01:32:37,640
It's exciting to be here today and have the opportunity to vote on this project.

1123
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:40,340
It's something that we have been working on for a long time.

1124
01:32:40,460 --> 01:32:42,760
I don't want to guess how many years it's been.

1125
01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:46,540
And I know the project almost didn't happen and it ultimately pulled through.

1126
01:32:47,060 --> 01:32:53,440
And I'm proud of what was presented today and what a resource is going to be for the community

1127
01:32:53,440 --> 01:32:59,320
and its residents and I think it's a great project and it's needed, these types of facilities

1128
01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:05,040
are in high demand and this is going to be one that's beautifully done and is going to be

1129
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:09,700
in a very central location. So I don't have any concerns with the project and just want to

1130
01:33:09,700 --> 01:33:14,820
think the team for, I know you guys had to make some changes and kept moving along but thank you

1131
01:33:14,820 --> 01:33:19,720
for your continued commitment to the city. Thank you, Mayor Propton. Thank you.

1132
01:33:20,540 --> 01:33:23,080
I will echo what Council Member Galleries.

1133
01:33:23,340 --> 01:33:24,740
I'm very, very supportive of this project.

1134
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:27,640
I think we started talking about this four years ago.

1135
01:33:27,740 --> 01:33:28,560
And I got on City Council.

1136
01:33:28,780 --> 01:33:29,900
So it's been a while.

1137
01:33:30,480 --> 01:33:34,160
But very glad to see that it's moving towards the successful conclusion.

1138
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:36,100
Hats off the staff.

1139
01:33:36,100 --> 01:33:37,760
Again, there's been lots of twists and turns.

1140
01:33:38,500 --> 01:33:39,880
But I'm glad that we're finally at a point

1141
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:42,000
where we can move this project forward.

1142
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:45,380
And I think it's two years until they open doors.

1143
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:48,600
So just to kind of pull back on the Hudson legacy,

1144
01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:52,680
Council member Nielsen actually mentioned when he was on city council.

1145
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:57,320
They were maybe like disposing of one parcel every year.

1146
01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:01,020
Just in the last few years alone, we've got 140 acres of land that's out.

1147
01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:03,780
Either shovels may ground or out the disposition.

1148
01:34:04,100 --> 01:34:08,400
And it really is a testament to the city council and also to staff.

1149
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:18,580
We've really pushed staff very hard to accelerate the pace of development in the

1150
01:34:18,580 --> 01:34:24,300
generations to come. We're also, you know, very, very much folks. I'm building a very cohesive

1151
01:34:24,300 --> 01:34:29,260
community out in the Tuston legacy. We have 450 acres of land, which is the blessing to

1152
01:34:29,260 --> 01:34:35,800
you to build out. And we're building it out in a very thoughtful, prescriptive way to serve the

1153
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:42,120
needs of a growing community, but also an aging community. And when you look across those 140 acres

1154
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:47,900
of land that are out for disposition or being built, there's all sorts of housing stock and we

1155
01:34:47,900 --> 01:34:54,460
we've got apartments we have senior housing we've got affordable housing so again very

1156
01:34:54,460 --> 01:34:59,060
very proud of the work that the ad hoc has done it's you're kind of getting a drink through

1157
01:34:59,060 --> 01:34:59,940
a fire hose and then

1158
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:09,160
I'm putting that fire hose on staff, but again, very supportive, I think it's the right project at the right time, and like I said, I definitely approve it.

1159
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:10,780
Thank you. Council Member Wilson.

1160
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:12,560
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1161
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:19,580
I just wanted to give Kudos to the Planning Commission, who very seldom is mentioned from our

1162
01:35:19,580 --> 01:35:25,100
days, and I just want to thank the commissioners for going through this project in depth, and

1163
01:35:25,100 --> 01:35:31,840
I learned a lot by reading the minutes and also seeing the video on the questions that they

1164
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:32,220
asked.

1165
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:37,300
I want to thank the client commission members for thoughtfully addressing that, so thank

1166
01:35:37,300 --> 01:35:38,120
them very much.

1167
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:44,260
I always like to see senior projects in testing some of senior and works out really well.

1168
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:53,460
But something I'd like to see, which would be nice is maybe looking at a little more integration

1169
01:35:53,460 --> 01:36:01,420
and between some of the senior projects we have in town already, and this one, to integrate a little more with the Tuscent Senior Center.

1170
01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:07,800
I think doing that and creating more of a synergy there, I think is very important.

1171
01:36:08,860 --> 01:36:10,740
That's what I have on this one. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1172
01:36:14,810 --> 01:36:15,850
Thank you.

1173
01:36:15,850 --> 01:36:21,970
I wanted to ask two questions based on the written comments that we've received.

1174
01:36:21,970 --> 01:36:25,850
And so the first one is about the letter from the Kennedy Commission.

1175
01:36:26,090 --> 01:36:31,470
First of all, I think there's an air in what they said they said there's a...

1176
01:36:31,470 --> 01:36:32,970
I should look at it.

1177
01:36:34,210 --> 01:36:36,970
But there's a hundred...

1178
01:36:40,170 --> 01:36:43,390
103 in the memory assisted care living and there's only 75.

1179
01:36:43,750 --> 01:36:44,810
Is that right?

1180
01:36:49,970 --> 01:36:53,290
As it relates to the project, there are...

1181
01:36:53,290 --> 01:36:58,270
It's a look, there's a difference between the residential units that are provided in building one,

1182
01:36:58,410 --> 01:37:03,530
which are the active adult component versus the assisted living facility,

1183
01:37:04,470 --> 01:37:08,450
which is seen as an institutional use rather than a residential use.

1184
01:37:09,090 --> 01:37:12,110
So what the Kennedy Commission is referring to in their letter,

1185
01:37:12,170 --> 01:37:16,350
just does not apply to the institutional component of this project.

1186
01:37:16,610 --> 01:37:19,730
So you're jumping ahead and partly answering what was going to be my second question,

1187
01:37:19,790 --> 01:37:20,270
which is good.

1188
01:37:20,270 --> 01:37:25,230
But just as a fact matter, they say there's 103 in the institutional, the memory care

1189
01:37:25,230 --> 01:37:30,670
where it's 75 in the memory care, if I'm right from the presentation here, right?

1190
01:37:30,670 --> 01:37:31,970
They just have the numbers wrong.

1191
01:37:33,270 --> 01:37:38,770
I'm not familiar or I'm not specifically recalling the numbers that were written in the Kennedy

1192
01:37:38,770 --> 01:37:40,550
Commission's letter, but your numbers are correct.

1193
01:37:40,570 --> 01:37:40,830
Okay.

1194
01:37:41,530 --> 01:37:42,170
So there's 75.

1195
01:37:42,770 --> 01:37:44,310
They put 103.

1196
01:37:44,730 --> 01:37:46,010
So I just wanted to let them know.

1197
01:37:46,730 --> 01:37:49,050
They had that all just the facts a little bit wrong.

1198
01:37:49,050 --> 01:37:53,490
And the second point is what you were answering, which I appreciate, because it was exactly

1199
01:37:53,490 --> 01:38:00,710
what I was getting to next, which is that surplus land act requirement for 15 percent applies

1200
01:38:00,710 --> 01:38:07,730
only to the as active living project and not the other project for the assisted care, correct?

1201
01:38:08,470 --> 01:38:14,290
Okay. And I appreciate, I'll just make this comment and then go to my second set of questions,

1202
01:38:14,290 --> 01:38:15,350
which might be of the developer.

1203
01:38:16,610 --> 01:38:23,510
But I appreciate the committee commissions concern about that, making sure that A, we're

1204
01:38:23,510 --> 01:38:28,530
living up to the SLA requirements, and B, making sure that we're trying to get as much affordable

1205
01:38:29,310 --> 01:38:35,370
for both sides for the entire project, it ends up being 15% for the side that the SLA applies

1206
01:38:35,370 --> 01:38:41,890
to 10% overall, which is still okay, and I also know that the twists and turns, let's

1207
01:38:41,890 --> 01:38:47,050
that this project's been through to get this and the alternatives would, you know, are likely not to have this.

1208
01:38:47,190 --> 01:38:51,490
So I appreciate their perspective, but I do think that getting to this point is important.

1209
01:38:51,970 --> 01:38:57,570
The second question I have, and it's just based on this comment from this written comment,

1210
01:38:59,750 --> 01:39:03,850
and it's really just a suggestion,

1211
01:39:04,190 --> 01:39:10,550
and I don't even know if any, if it would, I don't think that it would need to be changed, anything needs to be changed to this.

1212
01:39:11,010 --> 01:39:20,710
the comments are suggested raising the crossings to the, I guess, to the sidewalk in the sort of mid-block area.

1213
01:39:21,350 --> 01:39:26,910
And is that something that the developer can do with these entitlements as it is?

1214
01:39:27,090 --> 01:39:32,410
I mean, that seems to me to be a minor thing that they could do if they think it ends up being a good idea.

1215
01:39:33,190 --> 01:39:38,690
connectivity is absolutely important and look that during the design process for these kinds

1216
01:39:38,690 --> 01:39:45,170
of entitlement projects and the conditions actually for this project allow that conversation

1217
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:52,870
to occur if the developers so chose to install mid-block crossing but as of right now

1218
01:39:52,870 --> 01:39:58,230
Now, the correct design does not incorporate a midblock crossing.

1219
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:10,280
Usually, as it is in government regulations, there needs to be a line in the sand somewhere where we start talking about whether something is necessary or not.

1220
01:40:11,180 --> 01:40:22,900
And the fact of matter is that John Johnson way, along this stretch of the project, does not necessitate a midblock crossing given its low traffic volumes, its low speeds.

1221
01:40:23,700 --> 01:40:27,160
there's access to crosswalks at either end of John Johnson

1222
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:28,900
at Veterans Way and Armstrong.

1223
01:40:29,500 --> 01:40:33,400
So it was a conversation and the option is there,

1224
01:40:33,940 --> 01:40:35,680
but not part of this design.

1225
01:40:36,220 --> 01:40:38,080
And that's all I'd ask for.

1226
01:40:38,260 --> 01:40:39,100
I have no idea.

1227
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:41,860
It seems written from the commenter game grown,

1228
01:40:42,100 --> 01:40:44,400
who I know seems like it might be a good idea.

1229
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:48,160
Always good ideas to always get to solicit ideas

1230
01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:48,940
from folks.

1231
01:40:49,500 --> 01:40:50,780
It may work, it may not work.

1232
01:40:50,780 --> 01:40:54,880
just to ask that, this comment, make sure we pass that on to the developer, that they might

1233
01:40:54,880 --> 01:41:01,660
think it's an easy improvement and switch to make, but I wouldn't add any condition or

1234
01:41:01,660 --> 01:41:05,460
want to change anything about that. I just thought it was an interesting comment that is always

1235
01:41:05,460 --> 01:41:14,120
good to get a little bit more information. I'll just second all the thoughts that have been

1236
01:41:14,120 --> 01:41:19,280
passed about this project. It's really good to have a senior project where I'll

1237
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:23,320
need that, we'll probably need a lot more of that space, so I'm a bit sooner than later.

1238
01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:30,940
But I appreciate that it's moving forward, and thanks for the work on this.

1239
01:41:32,340 --> 01:41:33,220
Thank you.

1240
01:41:33,220 --> 01:41:40,120
And I think the point that you're making is maybe a more general one, both for our staff and for the applicant here.

1241
01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:46,600
Future partners is we want to make sure we're activating our linear park, and that folks can get from where they live to where they can play.

1242
01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:51,680
And if there's an easy fix to make that easier and safer, let's do that.

1243
01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:56,680
But with that I will move staff recommendation. Do I have a second?

1244
01:41:56,780 --> 01:42:01,740
I'll make a second. Motion then a second. Madam City Clerk, roll call please.

1245
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:06,980
Councilmember Nielsen? Yes. Councilmember Feing? Aye. Councilmember Galvin? Aye.

1246
01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:11,900
Mayor Pro-Temshell? Aye. Mayor Lumbard? Aye. Motion passes five zero.

1247
01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:13,800
Thank you.

1248
01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:17,120
We will now move on to other business, Mr. City Manager.

1249
01:42:17,260 --> 01:42:18,120
Do you have a report tonight?

1250
01:42:18,580 --> 01:42:19,020
Thank you, Mayor.

1251
01:42:19,260 --> 01:42:20,520
I do have a couple of dates.

1252
01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:23,940
I want to let everybody know about the Test and Police Department's

1253
01:42:23,940 --> 01:42:24,740
TIPACOP event.

1254
01:42:25,140 --> 01:42:27,280
It's occurring on September 10th from 5 p.m.

1255
01:42:27,380 --> 01:42:28,040
to 9 p.m.

1256
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:30,280
at the Red Robin restaurant at the district.

1257
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:32,740
This event is done in partnership between our officers

1258
01:42:32,740 --> 01:42:35,980
and the special Olympic athletes who will be joining servers

1259
01:42:35,980 --> 01:42:39,340
to help raise funds for the special Olympics 7 California.

1260
01:42:39,340 --> 01:42:44,560
Best of all, 20% of the evening sales will be donated directly to the special Olympics

1261
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:45,440
of Southern California.

1262
01:42:46,460 --> 01:42:49,540
Also, we talked about some financing items and budget.

1263
01:42:50,020 --> 01:42:54,380
I'm really proud to announce that our finance team has yet again for the 39th consecutive

1264
01:42:54,380 --> 01:42:59,720
year received the certificate of achievement and for excellence in financial reporting from

1265
01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:01,760
the government finance officer's association.

1266
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:07,020
So congratulations to the entire finance team, and a big thank you to our City Council and

1267
01:43:07,020 --> 01:43:12,300
all the city departments that contribute to the success of creating and reporting those financial

1268
01:43:12,300 --> 01:43:12,760
matters.

1269
01:43:13,100 --> 01:43:14,040
That concludes my tip.

1270
01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:14,860
Thank you.

1271
01:43:15,020 --> 01:43:15,760
Mr. City Attorney.

1272
01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:16,600
You have a report tonight.

1273
01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:17,800
No further report this evening.

1274
01:43:18,300 --> 01:43:18,520
Okay.

1275
01:43:18,660 --> 01:43:20,580
We'll move it back to the Council for our report.

1276
01:43:20,620 --> 01:43:21,500
Council, Robert Nielsen.

1277
01:43:22,300 --> 01:43:23,280
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1278
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:26,040
Just a few things for this evening.

1279
01:43:28,100 --> 01:43:33,880
Kind of going back because of our last meeting was a little everybody was running to the in-air

1280
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:34,520
breaker truck.

1281
01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:39,460
So we, I'm trying to keep my comments very brief because people were hungry and drooling.

1282
01:43:41,580 --> 01:43:49,300
So on August the 13th, I had the privilege of attending the joint meeting of the Board of

1283
01:43:49,300 --> 01:43:57,740
Directors for the Transportation Court of Regency in the stat of our Mayor Pro Temp and a

1284
01:43:57,740 --> 01:43:59,320
couple of items that we covered.

1285
01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:02,480
We designated labor negotiators.

1286
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:07,120
We had a quarterly procurement report for fourth quarter

1287
01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:08,940
for fiscal year 26.

1288
01:44:10,020 --> 01:44:14,320
We also had fiscal year 26 strategic plan in the status

1289
01:44:14,320 --> 01:44:17,640
and how things were going on that.

1290
01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:21,480
And annual investment portfolio review and an update

1291
01:44:21,480 --> 01:44:26,640
on the 2.4191 Express Connector Construction bid phase update.

1292
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:34,060
So we did cover quite a bit in our meeting, and I won't go over in the details, but it was

1293
01:44:34,060 --> 01:44:34,760
quite productive.

1294
01:44:36,700 --> 01:44:42,800
And then just after that, amazingly enough, I had lunch with our steam Mayor Protown.

1295
01:44:43,380 --> 01:44:44,200
I don't know how that worked.

1296
01:44:44,340 --> 01:44:46,360
I went to a meeting forum on one day.

1297
01:44:46,580 --> 01:44:47,200
I loved it.

1298
01:44:47,700 --> 01:44:48,620
That's it.

1299
01:44:48,920 --> 01:44:50,100
Anyway, we had a great lunch.

1300
01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:50,620
It was good.

1301
01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:52,420
And he was coming back from out of town.

1302
01:44:52,940 --> 01:44:53,540
So it was good.

1303
01:44:53,780 --> 01:44:55,180
We caught up on TCI.

1304
01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:59,940
So, um, and then, uh, I'll just 25th along with.

1305
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:07,720
So many of my colleagues attended the dedication and reopening of Camino Real Park and the

1306
01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:13,780
stage structure, which is absolutely awesome, and a new playground, which is just as awesome.

1307
01:45:14,520 --> 01:45:18,480
So if you have a chance to go over there and check it out, if you have kids or grandkids,

1308
01:45:18,480 --> 01:45:23,040
take them over there, have them climb all over that stuff, because it is very cool. So that was

1309
01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:29,780
a lot of fun. So also I just wanted to mention that we have in future events.

1310
01:45:29,780 --> 01:45:39,140
this is not a city event, but for 9-11, the 25th year remembrance, Angie Kardashian who has

1311
01:45:39,140 --> 01:45:47,000
dedicated a lot of her life to serving those first responders for 9-11 when she went back to

1312
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:54,340
New York on her own dime and spent a couple of years cooking and taking care a lot of the firehouses

1313
01:45:54,340 --> 01:46:02,220
and first responders will be speaking at the Sanana Elxlage on September 9th at 3 p.m.

1314
01:46:02,860 --> 01:46:07,760
And if you wish to RSVP to that event, please call the Sanana Elxc Club and I'm sure

1315
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:09,160
they'll be able to help you.

1316
01:46:09,320 --> 01:46:10,820
So anyway, I look forward to that event.

1317
01:46:12,180 --> 01:46:17,720
So in congratulations to our Finance Department again, you know, it's like kind of like

1318
01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:21,040
the Patriots and Football, you continually win super balls, right?

1319
01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:24,300
continually, get excellence in financial reporting,

1320
01:46:24,480 --> 01:46:26,120
so congratulations to them.

1321
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:28,200
It's all I have for this evening, Mr. Mayor.

1322
01:46:28,340 --> 01:46:29,380
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1323
01:46:29,480 --> 01:46:29,720
Thank you, Mr.

1324
01:46:33,280 --> 01:46:33,280
Mayor.

1325
01:46:33,280 --> 01:46:34,020
Thank you, Mayor.

1326
01:46:34,280 --> 01:46:38,460
It's like the Dodgers of the government finance role

1327
01:46:38,460 --> 01:46:39,460
when I back to back.

1328
01:46:42,140 --> 01:46:45,320
So just a few notes.

1329
01:46:46,740 --> 01:46:50,080
I attended the Miss Test and Scholarship Competition

1330
01:46:51,040 --> 01:46:53,240
on Saturday the 22nd and congratulations

1331
01:46:53,240 --> 01:47:00,700
to Miss Tuston 2022 Samantha Arroyo, who was on the Miss Tuston Court this last year, she'll be joined

1332
01:47:00,700 --> 01:47:13,600
on her court by Melody Brown and excuse me, Melody Shaw Vez and Veronica Chapman and Melody

1333
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:18,820
Shaw Vez had her first duty three days later at the Camino Real Park opening, which I attended

1334
01:47:18,820 --> 01:47:22,940
along with all the other council members and it is an excellent park. So congratulations and thanks

1335
01:47:22,940 --> 01:47:25,960
to the Parks and Recreation Department

1336
01:47:25,960 --> 01:47:29,760
and the Public Works Department for getting that done

1337
01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:30,880
and open up.

1338
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:36,680
I attended the on the 26th, the Cal City's O.C.

1339
01:47:36,860 --> 01:47:39,580
Division Board meeting, elected the new board

1340
01:47:39,580 --> 01:47:43,940
said goodbye to outgoing board president David Penelosa

1341
01:47:46,580 --> 01:47:50,960
and heard from Congressmen Derek Tran

1342
01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:54,880
as well as Darrell Johnson of the OCTA.

1343
01:47:55,860 --> 01:47:58,320
Attended the Sunset Market two weeks ago,

1344
01:47:58,480 --> 01:48:01,300
our last one was coming up later in this month,

1345
01:48:01,820 --> 01:48:04,360
and thanks as always to Parks, police,

1346
01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:07,740
public works, who all puts that on.

1347
01:48:10,080 --> 01:48:12,920
I attended on last Friday, the Grand Opening,

1348
01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:16,300
the formal Grand Opening of Western State School of Law

1349
01:48:17,280 --> 01:48:18,880
at their, at their testing campus.

1350
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:27,760
We're now one of approximately 150 cities in the United States to have an ABA approved law school.

1351
01:48:28,700 --> 01:48:30,860
And so it's a great asset.

1352
01:48:31,180 --> 01:48:39,940
Western States the oldest law school in the county and has produced judges, lawyers, and business and political leaders for decades now.

1353
01:48:40,180 --> 01:48:43,300
And it has a fantastic new facility in Tuston.

1354
01:48:43,300 --> 01:48:50,060
And I hope that we can make use of that resource there.

1355
01:48:50,120 --> 01:48:52,340
I know they will make use of the resources in testing.

1356
01:48:53,420 --> 01:48:56,300
And this morning, we got to the testing coffee club.

1357
01:48:56,940 --> 01:48:59,580
The re-agnited version of that.

1358
01:49:00,180 --> 01:49:04,300
It's meeting the first Tuesday of the month of Ratt Storico,

1359
01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:08,960
and the continuation of the club that it started in 1940 or so.

1360
01:49:09,180 --> 01:49:11,440
And it's just a bunch of folks who were talking about the community,

1361
01:49:11,440 --> 01:49:16,940
and various things going on and having some coffee or iced tea if it's weather like this.

1362
01:49:21,340 --> 01:49:27,720
I also, I've heard what the folks here who've been talking about the flock cameras.

1363
01:49:28,520 --> 01:49:30,460
I'm continuing to look at that.

1364
01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:32,760
I think we're going to have to grapple with that issue.

1365
01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:41,360
And here about it on the national news and in the radio all the time.

1366
01:49:41,360 --> 01:49:48,380
So, Dustin's going to have to see what that's what we're going to do about that.

1367
01:49:48,680 --> 01:49:56,520
And I know our police have trying to put those guardrails around that and addressing the entire

1368
01:49:56,520 --> 01:49:59,840
This is something that is bigger than just Austin, but some

1369
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:04,920
You know, the entire sort of surveillance issue. But it's something that we're going to have to deal with in

1370
01:50:04,920 --> 01:50:10,660
Austin. And so I look forward to talking with you about that more. And I think bringing that discussion here at some point soon.

1371
01:50:11,820 --> 01:50:25,300
The last point I wanted to make is I had discussion. There's a constituent who's had a real problem getting parking permits. And it has, I've been tried to get a parking permit and step through that program. And it's a, it's a tough program.

1372
01:50:25,940 --> 01:50:28,080
It's sort of as user unfriendly.

1373
01:50:28,720 --> 01:50:30,940
And it's something I'd like to bring to the council

1374
01:50:30,940 --> 01:50:33,520
because there's a second point of parking permits

1375
01:50:33,520 --> 01:50:38,620
that has come up as we're building these new developments

1376
01:50:38,620 --> 01:50:41,520
and the legacy over on Cyprus Grove

1377
01:50:42,300 --> 01:50:45,400
and at the end of the center and on Red Hill

1378
01:50:45,400 --> 01:50:48,640
people have come to us consistently concerned about parking.

1379
01:50:49,380 --> 01:50:52,660
And I've said one of the ways that we address this

1380
01:50:52,660 --> 01:51:00,700
as a city is creating parking permit zones and one of the things that I think I'd like

1381
01:51:00,700 --> 01:51:07,320
to see us address at a policy level and to change our policy or tweak really our policy

1382
01:51:08,340 --> 01:51:17,160
is ensuring that if we are proving these new developments that folks in those developments

1383
01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:24,340
that we've certified as sufficiently parked won't be getting parking permits on the streets for

1384
01:51:24,340 --> 01:51:28,600
the folks that already exist. So I'd like to bring that back to the council, and I'd like

1385
01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:33,380
to bring to the council this issue of just sort of simplifying the parking permit application.

1386
01:51:33,740 --> 01:51:40,640
And so I'm going to circulate a council member item request just to bring that back. It requires a

1387
01:51:40,640 --> 01:51:45,980
second, and so I'm hoping that somebody else will sign on to that. I'm happy to write it out

1388
01:51:45,980 --> 01:51:58,060
every once and that we can bring it back for consideration at the next council meeting or at a future council meeting and then ask staff to take whatever direction that might be appropriate from that, but so that we can have that discussion.

1389
01:51:58,760 --> 01:52:05,340
So I'm hoping one of you will raise your hand and say, sure all second that we can discuss whether to put that on a future agenda.

1390
01:52:07,380 --> 01:52:09,960
Hoping that one of you will even chime in now.

1391
01:52:13,770 --> 01:52:20,830
I am, and the only way to do it because of the Brown Act is to ask everybody to do it.

1392
01:52:21,030 --> 01:52:25,490
So hopefully you just, somebody can just raise their hand and I'll write it up in the

1393
01:52:25,490 --> 01:52:26,050
fall of that process.

1394
01:52:26,190 --> 01:52:27,570
But if you're on the second one, put your hand.

1395
01:52:29,930 --> 01:52:30,770
Yeah, that's it.

1396
01:52:31,090 --> 01:52:31,690
Thanks, Mayor.

1397
01:52:35,420 --> 01:52:36,440
You want me to call you?

1398
01:52:37,220 --> 01:52:37,920
South Lower Gallagher.

1399
01:52:38,380 --> 01:52:39,520
All right.

1400
01:52:40,380 --> 01:52:41,020
Keep this short.

1401
01:52:41,220 --> 01:52:44,260
Tended also the Western State Grand Opening, a beautiful facility.

1402
01:52:44,480 --> 01:52:45,840
They did a great job on that.

1403
01:52:46,020 --> 01:52:46,480
Grand Opening.

1404
01:52:46,480 --> 01:52:52,480
At OC San Board meeting on August 26, we were dark for our committees during the month of August.

1405
01:52:53,100 --> 01:52:57,780
Major item was adjusting and finalizing the budget for the year.

1406
01:52:58,620 --> 01:53:00,980
Attended the communal real park opening.

1407
01:53:02,140 --> 01:53:03,760
It looked like the lot of kids were having fun.

1408
01:53:03,800 --> 01:53:05,480
It looks like the park was for all ages as well.

1409
01:53:06,160 --> 01:53:09,940
I saw Mayor Pro Tem, Schnell, riding that slide up and down.

1410
01:53:10,220 --> 01:53:11,280
Kids were waiting really patiently.

1411
01:53:11,620 --> 01:53:12,780
So I thought that was really neat.

1412
01:53:13,440 --> 01:53:17,280
And then the Sunset Market attended that on August 20th.

1413
01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:21,820
And I did want to give a shout out to Val for as he's an economic development.

1414
01:53:22,360 --> 01:53:30,960
I was talking to a couple of testing residents that have been working trying to get a beer garden in Old Town,

1415
01:53:31,240 --> 01:53:38,060
which, if anyone has attended a council meeting, they know that I'm a big advocate for breweries and related dispensaries.

1416
01:53:38,060 --> 01:53:45,720
So I was happy to hear that VAL was working so closely with them, and this is something that

1417
01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:52,000
our staff will do through the building permit process and community development process.

1418
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:57,880
And I just think that's really cool that we are partnering with our applicants to make sure

1419
01:53:57,880 --> 01:54:01,840
that they understand how to navigate the process, because especially in unique opportunities

1420
01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:07,560
like this, they can be complicated, and so I just wanted to extend my gratitude for helping

1421
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:10,580
see that through. And that's it. Thank you, Mayor Pro

1422
01:54:10,580 --> 01:54:16,780
Tom. Thank you, just to clarify, Councilmember Gallagher, not

1423
01:54:16,780 --> 01:54:20,020
the dispensaries, but distilleries or breweries, correct?

1424
01:54:20,060 --> 01:54:24,380
Sorry, just want to make that clear. Okay, thank you.

1425
01:54:24,620 --> 01:54:28,620
Thank you. Let the record reflect. Yes, okay. Thank you. So I heard

1426
01:54:28,620 --> 01:54:35,320
Councilmember John Nielsen's up up his little portfolio. So I guess he wants me to go

1427
01:54:35,320 --> 01:54:42,060
quickly. I'll be quick. So 825 and 10 in the dedication reopening of Camino Real Park. Again,

1428
01:54:42,240 --> 01:54:48,900
amazing facility. I think kids will have a blast, parents will enjoy it. 9-1 attended the O.C.

1429
01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:54,820
Cemetery District Board Meeting. The main focus is still on the gypsum gypsum Canyon Cemetery

1430
01:54:54,820 --> 01:54:59,920
development so you're proved of a puzzle with GMU engineers and geologists performed.

1431
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:06,300
Thank you, technical analysis of phase one grading. So this is very important for step in eventually

1432
01:55:06,300 --> 01:55:13,360
starting to build the cemetery which will honor veterans and first responders. The anticipated

1433
01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:19,360
opening is going to be in 2021. Last one at least I wanted to wish everyone an advance, a very happy

1434
01:55:19,360 --> 01:55:24,860
labor day. And I do love history. So labor day was created by the late 19th century labor movement

1435
01:55:24,860 --> 01:55:26,920
to honor the social and economic contributions

1436
01:55:26,920 --> 01:55:28,900
of American workers, which are the best.

1437
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:33,660
September 5th, 1882, the first labor day parade

1438
01:55:33,660 --> 01:55:36,860
was organized in New York City by the Central Labor Union,

1439
01:55:37,280 --> 01:55:40,020
so coming from New York, very proud to see that.

1440
01:55:40,460 --> 01:55:43,200
Oregon was the first state to pass a law legally

1441
01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:46,080
recognizing the holiday in 1887.

1442
01:55:46,640 --> 01:55:49,520
We got a bunch of early adopters in New York being amongst them

1443
01:55:49,520 --> 01:55:53,620
and then Grover Cleveland actually passed a law

1444
01:55:53,620 --> 01:55:58,100
in June of 1894, where September 5th,

1445
01:55:58,100 --> 01:55:59,080
which is the first Monday,

1446
01:55:59,900 --> 01:56:02,760
is the first time we actually celebrated Labor Day.

1447
01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:05,380
So I wish everyone a happy and restful Labor Day,

1448
01:56:05,660 --> 01:56:07,040
and I can close my comments, Mr. Mayor.

1449
01:56:07,500 --> 01:56:08,320
Thank you.

1450
01:56:08,860 --> 01:56:09,560
Thank you all for your comments.

1451
01:56:09,580 --> 01:56:12,860
I wanted to reiterate some thanks to staff

1452
01:56:12,860 --> 01:56:16,660
for putting on the LRA meeting on the 18th at AMC.

1453
01:56:16,680 --> 01:56:18,500
Theater, if you weren't there, and you're interested.

1454
01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:21,200
The film is located online.

1455
01:56:21,320 --> 01:56:22,580
You can watch it about 30 minutes.

1456
01:56:22,580 --> 01:56:32,780
But all of the progress that the community is making towards developing testing legacy and receiving input from the community and incorporating that into the future plans.

1457
01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:43,620
And it's really important that we underscore that message that all of the outreach that we're doing is being heard and incorporated into the ultimate vision that we're going to be heardling towards.

1458
01:56:43,620 --> 01:56:50,160
So we'll be moving towards and you know, that's I think that's true with this council

1459
01:56:50,160 --> 01:56:51,860
Whatever your issue is

1460
01:56:51,860 --> 01:56:53,220
You may

1461
01:56:53,220 --> 01:57:00,040
Support or oppose certain things that we do but we are listening and I think you'll see that in policies that are adopted in the future

1462
01:57:00,040 --> 01:57:01,440
Then and we

1463
01:57:01,440 --> 01:57:06,600
Find two things to in the our residents concerns so with that I also

1464
01:57:06,600 --> 01:57:12,220
Met on August 26 with Congresswoman Kim and her staff and talked about a bunch of things

1465
01:57:12,220 --> 01:57:17,760
but importantly requesting further assistance from the Navy and really kind of finishing off the

1466
01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:24,720
Northanger fire cleanup and administrative process. And so she pledged her assistance in

1467
01:57:24,720 --> 01:57:30,100
arranging some meetings for that so that that should be coming soon. And then the next day

1468
01:57:30,100 --> 01:57:39,620
met with Southlanders County Community College District with Chancellor Barnes and President

1469
01:57:39,620 --> 01:57:44,220
their invitation to open, reopen the development agreement at the College District A-TEP facility

1470
01:57:44,220 --> 01:57:48,700
and talk about opportunities there. So, hopefully I'm looking forward to and I think the

1471
01:57:48,700 --> 01:57:54,380
Council is aligned in this exploring solutions so that we can get that proper removing and

1472
01:57:54,380 --> 01:57:59,760
collaborate on something special there. So we had a good meeting and thank you all for participating

1473
01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:09,600
that as well. And before I go into some upcoming events perhaps most importantly for all

1474
01:58:09,600 --> 01:58:15,420
about winning games. And that's important to me. So, good riddance, Arty Marino.

1475
01:58:16,340 --> 01:58:16,340
Okay.

1476
01:58:18,560 --> 01:58:22,720
So, some upcoming events, City Hall is closed on Monday for City Facilities.

1477
01:58:22,900 --> 01:58:25,160
They're closed on Monday for Labor Day. Has made a program outlined.

1478
01:58:25,740 --> 01:58:30,660
We have a final sunset market on Thursday, September 17th from 5 to 830 p.m. in Old Town.

1479
01:58:31,060 --> 01:58:38,320
We have a free shedding event, shredding event on Saturday, September 19th here at City Hall from 8 a.m. to 12 p.m.

1480
01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:45,900
And we have a fair housing fundamentals workshop on Thursday, September 23rd from 2.30 to 4 p.m. at the library right on the side.

1481
01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:51,100
And then lastly, a very exciting test until the day is coming up, October 2nd through 4th.

1482
01:58:51,540 --> 01:58:57,340
And response will be available now through October 2nd at test until the day is .com.

1483
01:58:57,580 --> 01:59:00,020
So thank you for being with us this evening.

1484
01:59:00,140 --> 01:59:01,360
We will now adjourn tonight's meeting.

1485
01:59:01,380 --> 01:59:06,880
The next meeting is scheduled for Tuesday, September 15th, 2026 for the closed session meeting of 4.30 p.m.

1486
01:59:06,880 --> 01:59:09,620
In the regular business meeting at 6 p.m., thank you.

1487
01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:10,020
Have a good night.