1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:08,920 Good evening. The Board of Zoning and Building Appeals meeting for August 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:11,840 24th, 2026 is called order at 5:30. Glenn, please call roll. 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,400 » Mr. Allen. >> Here. 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,200 » Mr. Patz. >> Here. 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,040 » Mr. Brown. >> Here. 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,640 » Mr. Griffith. >> Here. 7 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,760 » Mr. Cansler. >> Here. 8 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,280 » Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:36,120 » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 10 00:00:32,439 --> 00:00:42,560 republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,560 justice for all. 12 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:55,080 » At this time, anyone that will be speaking this evening is asked to stand 13 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,080 and raise your right hand. 14 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:02,480 Do you swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give is the 15 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:06,160 truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth under the penalty of perjury, 16 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:09,760 so help you God? >> I do. 17 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,760 » Yes. 18 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:18,680 » And I believe we have no unfinished business tonight. 19 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,680 So, we will move on to new business. 20 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:27,640 We have three items on the agenda today. The first item is 21 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,640 development variance 260009. 22 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:34,440 Uh development variances are requested at 9801 23 00:01:31,960 --> 00:01:38,680 Chamberlain Road for construction of a residential accessory structure. 24 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:42,680 Will the applicant please come to the podium? Please state your name and 25 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:45,880 address for the record and describe the nature of your request. 26 00:01:45,960 --> 00:01:53,880 » Nathan Duke, uh 9801 Chamberlain Road, Westerville, 44087. 27 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:56,440 Uh we're looking to build an accessory structure 28 00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:00,760 to to park uh 29 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:07,360 larger vehicles in, uh, that require door height, uh, greater than 4 30 00:02:03,479 --> 00:02:07,360 13 ft. So, 14-ft door. 31 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:19,920 » I'll now open this case to public comment. Is there anyone present that 32 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:22,480 would like to speak for or against this request? 33 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,959 Come on up to the podium. 34 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,760 And, uh, state your name and address for the record. 35 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:36,720 » Is this your microphone? 36 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:42,200 » Hi. Oh, it is. Yeah. It is. Yeah. 37 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,840 Thank you. 38 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,080 Mhm. Yeah, okay. 39 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:11,920 Good evening. My name is Shannon Smith. I live at 9789 Chamberlain Road in 40 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:16,080 Twinsburg, and this is my husband, Dan. Thank you for giving us the opportunity 41 00:03:13,920 --> 00:03:20,280 to speak tonight. We live directly beside the property in question and the 42 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:24,200 proposed detached garage that will be positioned parallel to our 43 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:28,200 property line, meaning that we will be looking at the long side of the 44 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:32,880 structure from our property. We are here to respectfully, sorry, 45 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:37,840 oppose all three variances being requested for this proposed structure. 46 00:03:35,959 --> 00:03:42,040 We are not opposed to our neighbors having a garage, and we understand that 47 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:47,440 they want to use their property. Our concern is the size, scale, and 48 00:03:44,519 --> 00:03:51,280 placement of this particular structure and the impact it will have on our home 49 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:56,120 and property. I think it is especially important the 50 00:03:52,920 --> 00:04:00,400 board consider this from our perspective because the rendering we were shown when 51 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:06,000 I um contacted someone and they sent us the plans and the picture 52 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:09,320 um it does not show what we will see from our property. 53 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:13,840 We have provided a picture of the proposed plan that I was given and our 54 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:16,840 part of the driveway and a small portion of our house is at the bottom of the 55 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:20,680 plan labeled Smith and the proposed structure will be on 56 00:04:18,280 --> 00:04:25,960 the other side of our property line. The side of the proposed detached garage 57 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:30,240 facing our property is approximately 62 ft wide and 24 ft high 58 00:04:28,280 --> 00:04:33,680 with only 30 ft between the structure and our property line. 59 00:04:31,919 --> 00:04:38,280 We have provided AI renderings showing the view from the backyard of our home. 60 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:42,520 In those images, the top half shows our current view and the bottom half shows 61 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:45,760 what that view could possibly or will look like with the proposed structure 62 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:49,080 and you can see there is a vast difference. 63 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:52,560 The view of our front yard will also be affected. 64 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:58,560 30 ft may sound like a substantial setback until you consider what is being 65 00:04:54,640 --> 00:05:03,600 placed 30 ft away, a 24-ft tall building with a 62-ft wide side facing our home 66 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:08,600 and the structure continues with additional sections making the overall 67 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:13,240 footprint extremely large. So our view will not be of the front of 68 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:17,160 a typical residential garage. We will primarily be looking at the side of a 69 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:20,960 very large building. It will become a dominant part of the scenery from our 70 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:23,160 property and from multiple rooms and bedrooms in our home. 71 00:05:22,918 --> 00:05:26,960 » [snorts] >> There is also no other residence on 72 00:05:24,840 --> 00:05:31,520 Chamberlain Road with a garage comparable to this size and scale. 73 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:35,440 Living on Chamberlain Road, we do not have an HOA, so there are no private 74 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:39,280 neighborhood restrictions that provide additional protection for our 75 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:43,480 neighboring homeowners. We rely on the city's zoning regulations and this board 76 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:47,240 to maintain reasonable standards between properties. That makes it especially 77 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:51,080 important to us that the zoning requirements of our upheld. 78 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:55,000 We are also concerned about more than just the proposed use today. A structure 79 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:58,160 this large will remain on the property for many years. 80 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:03,000 Potentially through change ins and changes in ownership or use. We cannot 81 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:07,080 know what that building may eventually be used for and we are particularly 82 00:06:04,840 --> 00:06:12,240 particularly concerned about the potential for increased noise and 83 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:17,880 activity in the future. We contacted the realtor who sold us our 84 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:21,280 home in 2023. I gave her the plans. She looked at the proposed plans and said 85 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:25,680 that's not a garage, that's a factory, that's huge. She also said it's an 86 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:29,240 eyesore, sorry. I know those are strong words, but they help put our concerns 87 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:32,720 into perspective cuz we are very concerned. 88 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:37,160 We asked if the proposed detached garage will affect our property value. She said 89 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:40,760 it will have an impact on those values given the change of scenery from 90 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:44,640 residential wooded to commercial industrial look. This isn't simply about 91 00:06:43,280 --> 00:06:48,440 us not liking the appearance of a neighbor's garage. It is about the 92 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:52,520 extraordinary scale of the structure in relation to the residential properties 93 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:56,120 surrounding it. We respect our neighbors and their right 94 00:06:54,080 --> 00:07:00,360 to use their property, of course. But we also believe that our property and our 95 00:06:57,919 --> 00:07:04,440 property and our reasonable enjoyment of our home deserve consideration. 96 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:08,480 We are asking the board to look beyond the front rendering and consider what 97 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:13,200 this will actually look like from our home. The scale of the structure being 98 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:17,200 placed 30 ft from our property line and the long-term impact of granting these 99 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:20,919 variances. For those reasons, we respectfully ask that you deny all three 100 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:23,520 variances and thank you for hearing our concerns. 101 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:31,080 » Thank you. Is there anyone else who wishes to 102 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,080 speak? 103 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:36,600 If none, we'll move on to a board discussion. 104 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,960 One of any questions or thoughts for the applicant? 105 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:42,760 » I have I have a question. For the applicant, 106 00:07:40,919 --> 00:07:44,919 my name is Rick Patz. Um 107 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,320 You You have a a camper, correct, that you want to store inside? 108 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:53,000 » Correct. >> But I see you've got two doors in this 109 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:55,920 this drawing that I've got here. Is there 110 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:58,240 Am I missing something there? >> So, there's a 111 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,400 » I can't You're going to have to come up to the microphone. I'm sorry. 112 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:09,720 » The left or the right side door is for camper storage, and then the left side 113 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:12,760 door is for other vehicles, but just for ease of access having 114 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:19,000 » Both 14-ft high? >> Correct. Both 14-ft high. 115 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:23,560 » And then um How big is your camper? 116 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:26,919 » Uh mine is 36 ft. >> 9 by 36? 117 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:29,240 » It's Yeah, 9 by 36. >> Okay. 118 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,320 » With plans for a larger >> of space left in that in that building, 119 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,200 then. >> Well, with plans for larger and a the 120 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,360 tow vehicle >> I You're going to have to speak into the 121 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:43,800 microphone. >> With plans for larger RV with the tow 122 00:08:39,560 --> 00:08:43,800 vehicle parked in front for storage. 123 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:48,680 » I just kind of feel it's it's overkill right now. That's all. 124 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:52,120 But um That doesn't You haven't got that listed 125 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:56,240 in any of your documentation that you're going to upgrade. 126 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,240 » Oh, okay. 127 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:02,040 » Okay, that's my question for now. >> Okay. 128 00:08:59,680 --> 00:09:05,640 » Just two The two garage doors are a little bit concerning to me. 129 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:09,240 » So, how high are those garage doors? >> 14 ft. 130 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,240 » 14 ft tall. 131 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,520 » Is there another man door or another uh overhead door that's going to be in 132 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:18,560 there anywhere? >> There's a man door on the left side of 133 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,560 the building. >> Those are the only two overhead doors 134 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,200 you have? >> Correct. 135 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:29,640 » Okay. And this this is bigger than what your 136 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:33,960 house is. And I I read your documentation that you've got 137 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:37,480 documentation that you could be 19 You could show us documentation where your 138 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:40,920 house is 1,900 sq feet. >> Correct. 139 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:44,160 » But this is 2450 square feet. >> Roughly, yeah. It's finished square 140 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:50,240 square footage on the inside is just under 2400. 141 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:52,000 Of finished concrete floor space. >> Or is there going to be an upstairs in 142 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,320 there? >> No. 143 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:03,080 » That's why I'm done with it. Thank you. 144 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:06,640 » Okay, so then just as far as the height is concerned. So you said there's no 145 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:10,400 upstairs. So the interior height, I think you said about 16 ft. 146 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:15,760 » Just, yeah, 16 ft 6 in. >> Then is the height of the building is it 147 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:18,520 necessary for it to be as tall as it is? Like can that be brought down? 148 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:22,840 » Uh with the garage door going up, you need 149 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:26,040 that the space for the openers and it would need to be that high to for 150 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:31,080 clearance. >> Okay, then as far as the the depth of 151 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:37,680 the building [snorts] being about 60 62 ft. You said your RV is 36 ft. 152 00:10:34,560 --> 00:10:41,040 » Roughly 36 and the veto vehicle in front roughly about 15 to 20. 153 00:10:39,560 --> 00:10:44,160 » Okay, so it's a vehicle that would be towed by 154 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,720 » Towed. The vehicle would be towing the RV, yes. 155 00:10:44,839 --> 00:10:50,200 » Okay, that's why you're the 60 ft is how it's both RV and the 156 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,800 attached vehicle. >> Correct. 157 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:57,640 » I have another question. Do you have any plans on landscaping on the the side 158 00:10:56,680 --> 00:11:00,240 towards your neighbors? >> Yes. 159 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:06,360 » That's not listed in here. >> No, that I didn't get that far with the 160 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:12,120 the planning, but the plan is to run down the side um where it's going to be 161 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:16,560 exposed is run down the side with uh either a mulch bed or gravel bed with 162 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:23,920 arborvitae or some sort of foundation coverage uh 163 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:23,920 low level plant down the side. 164 00:11:24,560 --> 00:11:28,480 » Got quite a thicket between the two of you right now anyways. 165 00:11:27,560 --> 00:11:32,480 » Correct. Yeah. >> Except in the fall. 166 00:11:29,839 --> 00:11:37,440 » Yeah, except there fall. Right now it's pretty grown up, but 167 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:43,600 Okay. >> I have another question. 168 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:49,040 Um, it's Tom Brown. Uh Is there another location on your lot? 169 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:53,400 I I see I know you have a pole barn back there. 170 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:57,240 However, if you moved it back, you know, behind 171 00:11:55,480 --> 00:12:02,120 Okay, yeah, I would constitute putting in a uh an another driveway, but that's 172 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:04,840 a heck of a lot better to look at than than 173 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:08,840 Okay. This is a building. >> Problem with going in the back is the 174 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:13,400 way the elevation goes. It drops real far, and that is wet back there 175 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:18,080 from as soon as it thaws to 176 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:22,120 middle of July. I can't mow sections of the the ditch back there. 177 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:26,040 So, having access back there with a vehicle of that size and weight, you 178 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:29,960 wouldn't be able to get back to it. 179 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:36,800 » Have you considered the effect of the value on your neighbor's property 180 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:41,080 with these two high doors and building? >> I have. I figured it would be a 181 00:12:39,560 --> 00:12:44,839 would bring the value up considering what's across the street and next door 182 00:12:42,839 --> 00:12:48,920 to me on the other side. With a building that's 183 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:53,720 » with anybody in that regard that that has the expertise to value things? 184 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:56,960 » I haven't gone I haven't evaluated anything, but the house across street 185 00:12:55,160 --> 00:13:00,600 you can't see from the road cuz it's all overgrown, and there's a barn next door 186 00:12:58,680 --> 00:13:04,800 to me with a hole in the roof. >> Yeah, I'm talking about the effect upon 187 00:13:02,560 --> 00:13:07,040 your neighbor's property. >> I haven't. 188 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:10,640 » across the street. >> Across the street? 189 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:15,120 » Not I'm not talking about what's across the street. I'm talking about the effect 190 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:20,120 of the value of these doors, that building on your neighbor's property. 191 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:25,280 » I have not gone that far with with the 192 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:31,880 the stone front facade and the uh vinyl siding, it would look 193 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:35,080 residential. And the doors are have windows in them and 194 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:40,520 it's not a commercial building. 195 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:53,520 » I have a question, Mr. Chair. Um, you've said that the tow vehicle you'd 196 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:55,400 like to park it in the same bay as the RV. 197 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:59,360 » Correct. >> But do you have to? Can't Can't the 198 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:04,360 truck or whatever you'll tow with be in the other bay? I mean, does it Does Is 199 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:09,640 that length the depth of the building? >> would be other storage in the other bay 200 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:13,320 and other vehicles as well. We have a I have a couple classic cars 201 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:15,880 that I would park over there just to keep 202 00:14:14,680 --> 00:14:20,080 out of the weather and >> It's sounding to me like the 203 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:23,440 the height's an issue, but the larger issue for your neighbor is the 204 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,880 um, very deep length of the building. And 205 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:31,160 so, when you request a variance, you're 206 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:36,040 asked to request the minimum that allows you 207 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:42,720 to to do what you need to do. And it sounds like your primary concern is for 208 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:47,600 parking the RV. And that's the reason for the the tall 209 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:49,000 um, overhead door and the height of the building. 210 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:54,360 » Correct. >> an attached garage. Um, you have a pole 211 00:14:51,839 --> 00:14:58,960 barn to store things. Um, another observation here is 212 00:14:56,839 --> 00:15:03,680 that this is a 4-acre lot, so this is a really big residential lot. But what I 213 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:08,120 also hear him saying is most of the lot isn't available for use for an accessory 214 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:12,680 building of this nature. So, while he has a 4-acre lot, he doesn't really have 215 00:15:10,839 --> 00:15:18,880 a configuration that, um, supports 216 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:23,720 um, minimizing the scale of the building. Does that make sense? 217 00:15:21,839 --> 00:15:27,360 Um, because it has to be up front. He's saying the garage really needs to be 218 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:31,080 located at the at the setback distance of the house 219 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:34,640 which is the setback distance of the neighboring house. So while there's a 220 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:38,680 whole big lot to 221 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:43,680 theoretically support the building, it doesn't really because of the topography 222 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:48,120 of the site. So um 223 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:52,720 With that in mind, you're kind of getting the best of the 224 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:59,040 lot area in terms of supporting this size, but you're not getting any kind of 225 00:15:55,760 --> 00:16:05,160 mitigation of it because it has to be up front by the house. 226 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:09,600 » I guess I my my question would be why detached? Why not attach it to the 227 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:13,880 house? >> I thought that would look a lot worse, 228 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:17,320 honestly. But I almost think that takes away one variance. But like you again 229 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:23,600 like It does take away a variance, but the aesthetics of it, the for your house 230 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:28,920 » you think aesthetically putting a 24 high building 60 ft long looks bad on 231 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:32,360 your house. But how does You know what I mean? By putting it closer to their 232 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:36,520 house, that's what I think where we're coming at from. So I think I'll just say 233 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:40,480 it straight up like we got to get it shorter and we got to get it moved 234 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:43,040 closer to the to the building. That's kind of where I stand. 235 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:47,720 » Mr. Gruber, that's exactly how I feel about it. I at this particular point in 236 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:51,640 time, there's so many questions. >> Yeah. 237 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:55,560 » Uh okay, moving it moving it around to the back closer to the house 238 00:16:54,120 --> 00:17:01,640 and performing that, would that do anything topographically 239 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:05,400 as far as the softness of the ground and things of that nature? 240 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:08,000 We need We need more information on this and as I see it right now, I'm not 241 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:12,520 willing to >> I I'm not either. I think it's an 242 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:15,560 aesthetic disaster to the adjoining house. 243 00:17:13,079 --> 00:17:19,240 » I agree with you. I agree with you guys. I 244 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:22,880 I mean I visited I visited it today. Uh 245 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:25,480 spent a lot of time looking at it uh from the road. 246 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:30,760 Uh I and I can't see any way that that your 247 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:36,680 neighbor's would be protected from a building that size. 248 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:39,480 » Mr. Chairman, if if if I could, I'd like to 249 00:17:37,360 --> 00:17:42,640 uh make a motion that 250 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:47,960 » You may need just 1 second. >> So, you can kind of see where the board 251 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:51,480 is heading on this. So, what I want to give you Yeah. 252 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:54,400 Is there a way to come back with something 253 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:59,160 that's minimal to the variances that you need? 254 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:04,480 So, location, like size. Is there a way that you can 255 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:07,880 rework this plan and bring us something that we could consider 256 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:16,360 » I think I could shrink it down lengthwise by about 10 ft. 257 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:20,440 Maybe a little bit more. Um width-wise, I would still 258 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:24,680 need for storage access for storage purposes. 259 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:28,080 Um height-wise, anything shorter, I wouldn't be able to get into and use it 260 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:33,080 for what I need. Um 261 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:36,560 but if joining it to the house if that's a 262 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:39,360 on the board, I can have those plans drawn up, too. 263 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:46,880 » My major concern is the aesthetic effect that it's going to have on the adjoining 264 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:50,760 neighbor's home. And that home was there first. 265 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:56,480 Uh these two high doors 266 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:59,960 uh the height of of it as compared to the existing house next door. 267 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:04,640 Um it it's too much of a an intrusion to 268 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,640 me. 269 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:10,560 » This So, if you if you went with one garage 270 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:14,080 door one entranceway there and put it in the 271 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:17,960 center, you could lower the height a little bit, 272 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,960 right? 273 00:19:18,360 --> 00:19:24,840 » Maybe a little bit, just in the truss height, but the wall height would still 274 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:29,720 be the same at about 16 ft from it'll be about 18 ft from 275 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:32,280 ground to try the eaves. 276 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:35,440 » I'm trying to look for a solution for you. That's what I'm trying to 277 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:40,000 » I know. I'm I've thought about many solutions and how to make this work and 278 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:45,920 » Yeah, for for me looking at, you know, you have a brand new house built across 279 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,960 the street, correct? >> Correct. 280 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,560 » Three-story house I would assume >> It's beautiful. 281 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,520 » Yeah. >> I put it on um 282 00:19:52,113 --> 00:19:56,000 » [snorts] >> Trying to see that they you know, they 283 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:59,440 just have a double garage, but to me and again, I'm not saying that I'm 100% 284 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:03,200 agreement that attaching it to your house is the solution either. Um but I 285 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:09,200 think to me seeing some different variations of how that attaches, how 286 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:13,800 that looks um you know, I see what you gave us. You 287 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:17,680 gave us gave us another covered porch. Um 288 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:20,520 Is there a man So, the man door is on the front and is there a man door on the 289 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,000 side? >> Just on the side. There's a window on 290 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,120 the front. >> windows on the front. Okay. 291 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,920 » Yeah. >> I guess in your drawing to me it looked 292 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:31,080 like that was a man door. That's why I was asking. 293 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:34,320 » the rendering done by Chad GPT >> Okay. 294 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:39,440 » It was very hard to do and it took a lot to get it to there. 295 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:43,440 » Yeah. And again, I think you know, again, the cost of this 296 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:47,080 building I'm sure is is substantial. And again, attaching it to your house I 297 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:51,560 would assume, but to me like I think I need to see something similar to that. 298 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:56,040 Um Yeah, and again, we're asking for three 299 00:20:53,640 --> 00:21:01,360 variances to me when we can decrease the variances is always the best for us. 300 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:04,200 » There's substantial variances, and I'm I'm look I'm still hung up on back 301 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,280 behind the house. >> Yeah. 302 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:11,800 » Okay, you can leave it detached if you want. 303 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:15,200 But how far back does that gradient drop off behind the 304 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,920 house? >> I walked it today and 305 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:23,800 at from the back side of that building if I were to push it back behind the 306 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:25,800 house, it drops almost 10 to 15 ft. >> Yeah. 307 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:30,120 » In the length of that building. It does drop relatively quick. 308 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:34,280 » sideways? >> Uh s- 309 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:38,680 Sideways? I think there's no other sideways to go towards the to put the 310 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:41,720 building sideways or >> Yeah, so you'd be looking at the side of 311 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,320 the building when you looked out of your house. 312 00:21:42,120 --> 00:21:46,920 » You're turning it around. >> The The shorter side would be parallel 313 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:50,120 to their wall line. >> towards their 314 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:54,280 » I don't think it would fit. I wouldn't think I'd 315 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:59,440 be able to get into it with a vehicle of that size. 316 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,440 » Yeah, that'd be my 317 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:05,960 Well, I'll I'll come back to my original comment if 318 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:09,720 that's okay, Mr. Mr. Chairman. >> They're doing 319 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:13,040 » I'd like to make a motion that we table uh this particular these particular 320 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:16,000 requests for variances until we get complete plans 321 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:21,440 um uh of a structure that uh 322 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:25,560 can reduce the amount of variances and uh aesthetically help uh your 323 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,600 neighbors. >> I'll second the motion. 324 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:36,440 » Um I'm I'm just catching up here. Sorry. >> [laughter] 325 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:40,520 » You need a second on that? >> We had seconded uh Mr. Brown. 326 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,000 » Yes. >> Mr. Cancellor? 327 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,720 » Yes. >> Mr. Allen? 328 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,960 » Yes. >> Mr. Patz? 329 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,120 » Yes. >> Mr. Griffith? 330 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,120 » Yes. 331 00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:55,920 » I make a motion we approve. >> I'd like to table this until you're able 332 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:59,520 to come back with uh more uh robust plans that hopefully 333 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,840 minimize the variances. >> Okay. 334 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:22,080 » Now we will move on to our second case for today. This is case number 260008. 335 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:28,280 For development variance request at 9278 Liberty Road. For a 50-ft setback due to 336 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:31,400 an 8-ft wide gas transmission. Will the applicant please come to the 337 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:36,640 podium? >> I I got an email late in the day today 338 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:41,880 with this applicant asked for this request to be postponed. I I didn't hear 339 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,800 back from her, but looks like they're not going to make it to the 340 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,680 hearing. >> Okay. 341 00:23:44,120 --> 00:23:50,000 » So. Um. 342 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,960 Yeah, I would. Yeah, let's make a motion to table it so 343 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:57,440 they're available. Yeah. >> I move to table this case until our next 344 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,960 meeting. >> Second. 345 00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:03,040 » Mr. Allen? >> Yes. 346 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,560 » Mr. Cansler? >> Yes. 347 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,120 » Mr. Petz? >> Yes. 348 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,680 » Mr. Brown? >> Yes. 349 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:11,760 » Mr. Griffith? >> Yes. 350 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,760 » Okay, the motion is approved. 351 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:22,440 » Now we will move on to our third case for tonight. 352 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:28,560 That is case number 260010 for development variance request at 2368 353 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:31,600 and 2398 Enterprise. Will the applicant please come to the podium? 354 00:24:32,120 --> 00:24:36,040 Please state your name and address for the record and describe the nature of 355 00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:39,560 your request. >> Uh thank you members of the board. My 356 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:46,440 name is Chad Rothschild. I'm here today on behalf of Metallic Resources. Uh and 357 00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:51,920 the property owner CSC Realty. Um. We own the property at 2368. It's an 358 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:54,880 existing industrial structure. Um. 359 00:24:52,920 --> 00:25:00,240 We own to the west that's a vacant parcel that may or 360 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:06,720 may not be listed on the agenda. To the east, we purchased the property 361 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:12,280 that's 2398 East Enterprise back in May of 2025 out of auction. 362 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:16,640 Um at this time, we're looking to expand our operation off of 2368 363 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:21,720 and uh as we were going through the process 364 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:27,480 with our contractor, with our architect, in reviewing the zoning code, we 365 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:32,880 realized there's a 100-ft setback from building up against a residential um you 366 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:38,480 know, adjacent property. And then likewise for parking, it is a uh 367 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:43,560 50-ft setback. What's unique about the location of the 368 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:47,240 property is if you look to the east of 2398, 369 00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:50,320 that's uh Great Day Improvement, that's also zoned industrial. 370 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:55,600 Um you know, innovation manufacturing. 371 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:59,960 And then to the west of the vacant lot is the building formerly owned by 372 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:03,760 Caltech. Uh that's also, you know, in the IM zone. Those carry with it a 373 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:09,080 different setback. Those are the traditional, I believe, 50-ft for 374 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:11,600 building and uh I think 375 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:15,080 Well, whatever it is. All we're requesting is that the setbacks be 376 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:18,480 commensurate with the properties to the east and west of us, and we do not 377 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:21,840 believe We believe it would be aesthetically pleasing. 378 00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:25,920 Uh there's a lot of woodland in the back. Uh 379 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:29,640 you know, to the rear of the residential property, same as there is with the 380 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:33,960 Great Day Improvement. From the street, you would not be able to notice. 381 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:38,360 Um I have some other notes here. Um so, it wouldn't change the essential 382 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:43,720 character of the area. Uh there'd be no adverse effect to governmental services, 383 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:46,880 such as fire access, sewer, water, trash service. We made sure to take into 384 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:50,800 account that you you would have an access road that can go all the way 385 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:56,080 around the the parcel, so there'd be good ingress egress for emergency 386 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:59,080 vehicles. Um Um you know, we believe that's, you know, 387 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:02,600 the spirit and intent of the zoning code would be upheld 388 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:07,520 through the request. So, with that, we respectfully request um issuance of the 389 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:10,680 variance as requested. Happy to answer any questions. 390 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:18,840 » Uh first, I will open this case up to public comment. Do anyone present like 391 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,840 to speak for or against this request? 392 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:25,120 Any correspondence? >> Um no, I got no correspondence from 393 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:29,480 anyone regarding this project. >> Okay, thank you. 394 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:32,000 » I can't I can say though um 395 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:37,800 in addition to what the applicant has presented, the the city adopted that 396 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:41,240 additional setback in 2024 when we adopted the zoning code. The reason the 397 00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:46,160 other properties are at 50 ft is because we 398 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:50,000 changed the the setback dimension 2 years ago. 399 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:53,360 » Okay. Seeing none, we'll move on to the board 400 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,800 discussion. >> I have no I have no questions. 401 00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:59,240 » No. 402 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:05,240 No questions here. >> I move that we approve the appeal as 403 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:08,720 requested. Do I have a second? >> Second. 404 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,840 » Roll call, please. >> Who Who beat there there's 405 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:15,160 » I just >> I'm going to give that to Tom, okay? 406 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,680 Mr. Allen? >> Yes. 407 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,200 » Mr. Brown? >> Yes. 408 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,640 » Mr. Patz? >> Yes. 409 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,160 » Mr. Griffith? >> Yes. 410 00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:23,320 » Mr. Cancellor? >> Yes. 411 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,840 » The motion is approved. >> Thank you, members of board and 412 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,760 planning. >> You're welcome. 413 00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:29,760 » Council member, we really appreciate it. Thank you. 414 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,800 » Can I just say something real >> Sure. 415 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:35,520 » I had an opportunity to tour the facility and 416 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:39,640 last week, so thank you very much for for showing me around. 417 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:43,840 But it's um it's really a staple of our community, our business community of 418 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:47,960 what's happening. And uh I appreciate the environmental concerns that you guys 419 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:52,080 take an effort with what you're doing. And uh just taking the time to walk me 420 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:55,440 around and give me a tour of um the new layout and and what you'll be 421 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:59,720 expanding. It's It's pretty cool in there uh to see the the items being 422 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:02,600 melted down and to be able to hold a Jody Lynn Hall is like holding a gold 423 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,080 bar. So 424 00:29:02,975 --> 00:29:05,240 » [laughter] >> but 425 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,600 but it was uh very fun. Thank you very much for that. 426 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:15,080 » Now we will move on to the regular meeting. Are there any certifications to 427 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,080 be minutes? 428 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:24,360 » Mhm, none. I move to approve our meeting minutes 429 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:27,440 from June 29th, 2026. >> I'll second. 430 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,680 » I'll second. >> Roll call, please. 431 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,880 » Mr. Allen? >> Yes. 432 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,440 » Mr. Griffith? >> Yes. 433 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,040 » Mr. Patz? >> Yes. 434 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,360 » Mr. Brown? >> Yes. 435 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,320 » Mr. Cansler? >> Yes. 436 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:41,880 » And then they're approved. Do we have any other communications or 437 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:46,720 other business to discuss? >> No, um it's looking like we probably 438 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:52,840 will have a meeting next month. I have a couple applicants that are 439 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:58,520 are working on projects and I'm going to guess that the ones that we tabled will 440 00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:01,040 or could be back. So, I we'll just say we should plan on having our meeting in 441 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,400 September. >> I'm good. 442 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:07,720 » Do you have to have that in by when, the 11th or so? 443 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:09,680 » Y- Yes, that sounds right. The second week of September. 444 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,960 » Mhm. >> Okay. 445 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:17,080 » So, yeah, he may not make it, but um I think there's 446 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:22,400 um somebody on Jody Lynn Lane had a minor 447 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:27,360 variance request. I suggested they they could just 448 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:31,000 take foot off the building. I don't know whether they'll do that. So, but there's 449 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:35,160 a couple other applicants floating around out there. We'll see. 450 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:40,200 » Any other communication, Council? >> No, everything's good. 451 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:42,960 » Is there a motion to adjourn? >> So moved. 452 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,440 » The meeting is adjourned. >> At 453 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,200 » 6:00. >> Thank you, everyone.