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Good evening and welcome. I don't know
what what word was coming out there, but

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um and welcome to a regular meeting of
the Ulyses Town Board. It is September

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8th uh and 2026. And I will call this
meeting to order at 7:01 p.m. May I

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please have a roll call?
>> Sure. Mr. Manley,

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» present.
>> Miss Olsen,

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» present.
>> Mr. Goldman, returned.

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Mr. Bonds
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» Miss weatherby is attending remotely due
to extenduating circumstances.

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» That's correct. Okay. We have a agenda
that was posted last uh Thursday.

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Um we have two public hearings um
and uh presentation from the JCA. Um,

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anything else that needs to be um added
or removed from the agenda? If not, I'll

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accept a motion to approve as presented.
>> Move to approve as presented.

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» Thank you. Uh, all those in or second.
Sorry,

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» I second it.
>> Thank you. All those in favor?

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» I I
>> Thank you. Okay. Um, first up is uh a

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public hearing a local law amending
chapter 20 of the town code. This is

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related to the water code was introduced
u back back in July I think and um so

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we'll um open and close that and then
we'll open and close the one on the tax

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um override for 2027. Um, is our motion
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amending chapter 20 of the water code?
>> Chapter 200.

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» 200, sorry. What did I say? 20
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uh amending chapter 200 of the town. So,
>> thank you. Is there a second?

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» I'll second that.
>> Thank you. All those in favor? I I

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» Okay. Um, any public comment,
please go ahead.

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Uh, my name is Vivian Rhodess. I do not
live in the town, but I live in the

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town. I live in the village. So, I've
reviewed this. The village, you probably

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know, instituted user fees on water and
sewer three years ago, four years ago,

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something like that, which basically
doubled my water bill and my sewer bill.

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So, I am a single lady in a small house
and I don't use a whole lot of either

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one, but I do pay $600 a year for user
fees for the facility of the sewer line

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and the water in addition to the water
and the sewer charge. So, I'm uh I have

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two two inputs. One is
um be very clear about what the

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percentage is that this is going to be.
It seemed like the language in the code

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as I read it was you know when the board
says which is very difficult for someone

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to budget and also the increments of
growth of the user fee should also be

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very clear. Uh
and that's that's from my experience as

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a village user. The other is that
somewhere in this code it says that

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there would be penalties after 20 days.
I looked at the town code at the at the

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state level and I couldn't find anything
for penalty after 20 days. It was after

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30 days. So I just wanted to bring that
to your attention because I I did use

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the references to go read the parts that
are supposed to be what that's about. So

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thank you. appreciate your willingness
to hear my input.

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» Thank you.
>> I have a question.

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» So, I don't get from the text what we're
actually do what we're what we're

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changing.
>> We'll talk we'll talk about that in the

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section of the meeting related to that.
This is for the public hearing portion.

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» Is there anybody else who wishes to
address the town board on this topic?

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» Um, did we receive any written comments
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» No. Okay,
>> then I would um accept a motion to close

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the public hearing.
>> So move.

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» Thank you. Is there a second?
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» I
>> um the next public hearing um is on a

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local law there, our annual uh one to
override the tax cap limit for 2027.

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Um so accept a motion to open that
public hearing. Move to open the public

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hearing on overriding the tax budget.
>> Thank you. Is there a second?

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» Second.
>> Thank you. All those in favor? I

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>> Okay. Um any any member of the public

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wishing to address the to this topic,
please go ahead.

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» I Hello. I'm still Vivian Rose. I live
in 104 Pennsylvania Avenue and Transburg

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and I pay town and village taxes and uh
I really do not have a problem with the

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town overriding the tax cap. But I do
have a problem with not understanding

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what's precious and what's going to be
maintained and what is going to be paid

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out of local taxes if and when federal
taxes and state taxes go away.

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And how that immediately impacts me is
looking at a recreation specialist

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position.
It appears to me that the town board

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needs to look very very carefully at
what it is funding. what is absolutely

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essential to the
daily life of its residents and what is

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not. Because at some point the local
folks are not going to be able to

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support all the things that have been
possible for us with grants, you know,

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with monies from other other people's
tax pockets that were pulled together

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for county, state, national that I I'm
concerned that that's coming down the

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pike and I'm concerned that we don't
have a lean budget yet. because we have

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accumulated a lot of responsibilities
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responsibility. So just a thought to
share with you. Thank you.

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» Thank you. Um are there any other
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address the town board?
Um did we get any public comment on this

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matter?
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» Okay. I accept a motion given that
there's no other public um indicating

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they wish to speak is uh accept a motion
to close uh the public hearing on the

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tax cap override.
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» Thank you. Um all those in favor
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next um
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uh Nancy Zaylor uh from coming to us
from the Jacksonville Community

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Association. Well, welcome you. Thank
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Where would you where are you most
comfortable? Would you like to Is it

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more comfortable to sit at a chair? Do
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would you like to do?
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that the camera captures.
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podium? Which one was preferable?
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as long as they
will be our guinea pig

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and then please the audience, everybody.
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» that's very good. And that and I am a
novice at this, but I do have a um

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» Oh, I I signed up. Okay, that you know
what? I'll just do this. Um,

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I am delighted to be here. Um, as
Caitlyn mentioned, I'm Nancy Zaylor. I'm

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currently the president of the
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um, we like to come each year to fill
you in on what we've been doing and give

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a slight glimpse about what's ahead. And
this has actually been a very active and

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exciting year. And I will be giving to
you copies of the um pages of the

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PowerPoint that I can't project for
people. Um so I will just uh uh because

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I know if I give them to you, you will
just read them and stop listening. So if

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that's um if that's okay, I will I will
give them to you. But um just this is

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this is quick. We

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as you know the Jacksonville Community
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I'm I'm striving for balance between
what I know a lot of members already

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know about us and wanting to make sure
others uh get a clear picture. The

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Jacksonville Community Association is a
nonprofit and um back in like 1960, we

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were um we acquired what had been a a
parcel of land owned by the Graange and

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it is uh still under our stewardship as
a 10acre park on Swamp College Road.

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It's in the park zone now and we have
since 2017

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had a memorandum of understanding with
the town which has been tremendously

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helpful to uh sort of make a partnership
and from our end that since 2017 we have

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dramatically improved made a bunch of
improvements in the park. We have um in

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recent years dramatically increased the
amount of community engagement and uh

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are sort of in a phase where we're
expanding civic engagement. Um as you

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know we built a restroom with uh grants
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It took a 5-year period from 2019 to 24,
but it is fully operational uh cleaned

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bi-weekly and is open to the public from
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while we were completing that, we were
concerned that the park was not as

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physically accessible as we had wanted
it to be. And so here I can do this. We

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have uh we did create with a grant from
the county a parking area and a path to

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the pavilion and the restroom. And um we
did get a grant from the Ithaca Rotary

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Club to get a custommade picnic table
with extended ends so that um someone in

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a wheelchair or a stroller uh could pull
up to that and be um included in the

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activities that are going on at the
park. We routinely maintain the park

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largely with the help of volunteers, but
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mowing that the town uh DPW department
does. They are absolutely terrific to

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work with. I assume you know what gems
you have in the staff there. and our

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contact Dave Snyder
um is always uh available and helpful

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and they're occasionally smaller uh
projects like when we were having our

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cleanup day which was one of the most
successful we've had in years. He

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offered to have a town truck placed at
the park for us to load all of the uh

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clippings from the trails that our
Ulisses pruners helped generate volumes

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of stuff that filled uh more than um one
town truck. And we had um young children

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with little grabbers picking up garbage
and were very excited about the dirty

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diapers they were finding near the uh
fishing pavilion. They were probably

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about the only ones excited about dirty
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But uh we filled several trash bags and
DPW uh was able to take that away for

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us. And this is relatively new from uh
in 25. We um decided after getting a

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quote from NiceG several years ago that
said it would cost about $30,000 to run

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an electric line from Swamp College
where there was a pole right at the end

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of the driveway up to the pavilion and
restroom. We said that's obviously not

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feasible. And so for $3,300,
we were able to um get solar panels in

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uh installed on the roof of the restroom
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batteries uh which will be used to run
uh some lights that we have purchased

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and that will soon be installed uh
inside and outside the restroom uh to

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use this solar powered. We do take the
batteries offline for the winter and put

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them on when the the restroom is open
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also brand new is that one of the things
that has changed in the last year is

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that the Namaste Manasauri School that
used to operate out of what people think

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of as the old Close Hall right on 96.
they have closed that building as a

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school and the students are consolidated
into the their campus opposite stick and

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stone. What that means is that the daily
use that those students and staff had

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made of the park that was part of our
sort of park supervision if you will

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because we don't have paid staff. Uh we
don't have someone who checks the park

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every day like when uh Dave Sherman was
alive. Um but so we actually felt the

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need to both monitor activity and also
use of the park with some security

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cameras that would be um LTE style so we
don't have Wi-Fi at the park but this

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would allow us to connect somehow and
see it on our phone if we uh had an

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alert. And the um Ithaca Club Ithaca
Rotary Club actually just gave us $600

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for those cameras. So those will be
getting set up soon too. Um we're really

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excited this year about the increased
community engagement. We have had two

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since the beginning of the year and
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actually came from the annual meeting
that we had last fall. Jonathan Frolic

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who was president at the time sort of
invited the community members who were

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there to share ideas about what would be
helpful for JCA to do in the community

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and they were saying we'd like more
opportunities to get together with one

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another and so we have um in the first
months of the year planned two community

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dinners that uh were successful one of
which co-sponsored with the Jacksonville

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um Methodist Church And we have had um
our annual picnic just uh took place and

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that was uh successful. Plus this fall
we're actually planning to have a series

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of events that actually are dual purpose
as as a JCA as a community association.

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We want us to support our local
businesses and other than sort of buying

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from them when we can, we realize that a
lot of people in community don't

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necessarily know some of our local
businesses and so planning sort of

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organized field trips if you will. So,
the Honeybee Embassy, um, uh, Jonathan

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has talked with them about having a
group of people come, maybe take a tour

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to see the apiaries and have like a
honey tasting or some sort of social

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event that all is also good for the
business. Um, the event would be free,

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but people could be free to, you know,
buy if they chose, but they would know

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more about a business operating right
around the corner from them. And

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similarly um in the heart of the village
uh Danny Trippet has opened something

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called the Quanderey uh in Ulissi Square
which is an escape room sort of mystery

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program that a group of people uh comes
together and tries to solve all the

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clues to
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» to escape the room. Yeah.
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said, you know, people have said, you
know, I'm sort of curious about that.

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And we said, well, it's easy enough for
us to put out to see who's interested,

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get a group together. Danny has said for
the people we bring in, he will give

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half price as an introductory thing. So,
it's sort of like a win-win. And maybe

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in the winter when thing when people are
sort of hunkered down more um having a

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game night at Mama said which isn't in
the hamlet but we think of it as sort of

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close by. Those are the kinds of things
that um we're interested in doing. Plus

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we've got a new volunteer who is quite
uh skilled and interested in doing more

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um uh like walks to identify plants and
trees and birds and and things like

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that. Those would all be be free. So, I
mean, people passively use the park now.

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We plan events at the park, but we don't
we haven't yet, and we're looking

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forward to inviting people in a
organized way to uh learn more about the

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park and take advantage of it. And the
result of these these uh extra

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activities is we have Pentail. This this
you will see a little bar graph is easy

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easy to uh get. In 2024, we had like
just a couple of events and maybe 25

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people. And if everybody who says they
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in the fall, we expect about 175. Now,
that's may not be 175 different people.

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And I know the difference between
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um it shows a volume of engagement that
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you we basically want to assure you that
uh JCA does

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a lot with a little. Um we are extremely
grateful for the uh annual uh allocation

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that we get and we are um but we have
sort of parlayed our partnership with

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you into getting uh we got since 2017 in
theouou we've had two free studies done

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one by students at Cornell as a master
plan for the park and a second one done

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actually will Glennon your director who
teaches at Sunni Courtland was able to

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hook us up and we got a separate plan
that was for how to maintain and uh the

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park and how to improve accessibility
and that was part of what triggered us

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wanting to do the parking area and path
is that so that those were free to us.

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We got um with your help about uh 14
over $14,000 in county money as grants

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toward the restroom and accessibility.
And we were able to leverage uh $1,600

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in grants from the Itha Rotary. We've
got about 20 to 35 volunteers that help

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maintain the park and we are um you know
pretty scrupulous in in how we spend and

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account for the the the annual
allocation. So um as I mentioned we are

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planning to uh do a little more on
increasing our our civic action. Um, and

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that is I mean back in 2017 there was a
threat that the local post office in

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Jacksonville might be closed and the
community rallied around. We actually I

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was out of town board then and contacted
Senator Gillibrand's office who followed

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up and at that time they were
reassuring. We don't know now. Um, but

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that kind of advocacy has been done in
the past by JCA. Uh we wrote an uh a

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letter supporting increased funding for
child care when Namaste was trying to

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expand. And um then this year you saw us
at a number of meetings because we came

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to the um comprehensive plan steering
committee to give feedback um on the

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Hamlet portion of the plan. And then um
we were very grateful that that we

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actually were able to to schedule a
special session of that comprehensive

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plan steering committee. at least some
of the members came and met these some

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of the residents in Jacksonville so they
could understand more about what was

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under consideration and um what was
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indirectly grew out of that is that this
fall we hope to bring some people

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together to start doing what we're
calling like a we're organizing in the

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hamlet to try to address some of the
traffic safety issues on Route 96. when

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the um Living Essence Massage School
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got calls saying even though they added
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they didn't have enough parking for all
of their students and were wondering is

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there some sort of parking ride or is
there a place that our people can park

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and it's like well sort of there's not a
lot of good options and in the course of

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that discussion the idea of parking on
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People at the chiropractic office do it,
but most people feel like they wouldn't

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take their life in their hands to park
on Route 96 there. Obviously, they park

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on Route 96 in the heart of the village
and that parking does slow traffic down

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and obviously the village police
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we had thought that there might be some
traffic calming measures that we could

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explore in cooperation with the town,
with the state, and whatever. So anyway,

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we'll be uh those are the kinds of
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of the park that we are interested in.
And um just a I mentioned a couple of

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things that we're coming ahead is um we
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weeks getting the solar lights installed
inside and outside the uh the restroom.

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the security cameras and where those

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should be, those will be going up
hopefully uh later this year. One of the

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things that we want to do is the parking
area and the path that we created is not

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yet
as navigable as we would like. it still

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feels a little grally and so figuring
out how to get that surface resurfaced

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so that it would be more accessible is
one of the things that's that's on our

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uh on our plans for this year and um but
for next year we are actually looking at

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um and I am just about done the uh
we've talked about it here before and

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this is the year I think really 2027 is
really the year to sit with a

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combination of the wonderful community
uh resource people we have plus people

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at DPW and members of our board to put
together a longer term uh both

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maintenance plan for the park and as
well as improvements so that we have a

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sense about what it takes to to keep the
park safe and to um you know then other

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things to improve it. But like this year
uh our insurance company that's part of

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theou we provide the insurance and make
sure the park is safe. The insurance

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company actually had said that the old
uh foot bridge that crosses the pond had

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handrails but no ballisters and that
really wasn't safe for little kids or

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whatever. And so, um, Cameron Newuhof,
our our

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treasurer, is also a contractor, and he
had gotten some local, I think, arch and

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sort of stripped it into um like 2 by
two ballasters, and then we had a plan

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and and the DPW guys helped make sure
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you know, those are the kinds of
partnerships that that are so so

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valuable to us. And for that, all of
that and all that we're doing, I just

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want to say thank you. Thank you. Thank
you. And we're also grateful to the uh

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Jacksonville Community Church because
they offer us space for our events and

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they co-sponsor with us the uh Ithaca
Rotary said every time you can talk site

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the Rotary Club of Ithaca for for their
financial support. And then we've got

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some private donors who who donate
money. So that ideally we would just be

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using donations to cover the
refreshments that we do at at these

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various events. So, that's what we're up
to. I'm happy to give you copies of this

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so you can peruse more at your leisure
and uh send a couple this way. Send a

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couple that way.
>> Liz, we'll make sure one gets in your

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box.
>> I have one for Liz.

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» Great.
>> So, any questions, comments?

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» Doing a great job.
>> Well, we've got a small but mighty team.

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and uh we've been able to do a lot and

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what we're finding is that there are
some people who have come to several

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events and so we're cultivating uh their
interest and and hopefully they may or

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may not serve as board members but I
think we have some that are going to be

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actively involved in organizing events
and um in ways that I think will just

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make a community more connected and
stronger. Um, we actually when when we

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had our picnic, Andy Hillman, who you
I'm sure know is an arborist, um, was

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there because he lives just down the
road and was talking about a wonderful

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tree that he had seen in one of the
neighbors yards because she she always

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called him over and say, "Andy, check my
trees." And he said, "She had one of the

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finest specimens." And I'm thinking the
little part of me is like, I suppose, we

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got some pretty nice trees at our place.
So, we have a listerve. Um,

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» I put out a a a picture of one of our
trees and invited people to share some

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of their trees or plants or whatever. I
got one so far. Another might be on the

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way. But those kinds of things that find
ways to illustrate the connectedness of

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the people in the community um are are
sort of what we're about. There were no,

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as far as I could hear them, virtually
no political discussions. So, it's

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really just people connecting with their
neighbors and that's what we're about.

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» Awesome. Very nice. Thank you very much.
Sure.

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» I bet I know which tree it was, too.
>> Oh, no. Diane has one beautiful one. I

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don't know what it is, but it's
spectacular. So, she should definitely

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be on that one.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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» I don't know whether I'm allowed to take
a question directly from Vivian.

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» Yeah.
>> I just wondered if you could compare

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your budget to before town money to now
and what kind of relationship between

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that town money and all the other money
and donations that have come in.

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» Yeah. The the uh contribution from the
town has been $5,000 for as long as I

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can remember. So, we haven't gotten cost
of living increases. We always make do.

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Some years we do get like when we got
county grants, those were bigger and

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those were one time. These smaller
grants were able to write pretty easily

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and sometimes are successful. We don't
ask members to like pay a membership fee

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to belong. Um, and you know, a number of
years ago when we were just starting our

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restroom project, actually, we partnered
up with the uh conservatory and they had

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a whole sort of
sort of oldtime festival day where we

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raised uh money toward the restroom. And
uh we've had the um

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uh
Lions Club from Trumanburg actually uh

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held a chicken barbecue at Brownies for
us and and shared part of the proceeds

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from there. So we've we we try to do
those kinds of things, but uh we haven't

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really solicited a lot of donations.
Obviously that may be in our future, but

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but we have I think been been good
stewards both of the land and of of the

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town dollars. So, it's about the same,
but it is the largest piece of what

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we've had now that the county grants
have really uh dwindled, but they're not

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completely gone. And there are things
like for celebrations and whatnot that I

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mean, I did go to uh the tourism
workshop with various uh grants. It's

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just a matter of sort of what time times
available to to ask for those to

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implement them. But we are hopeful.
Actually, Tom Knip uh had some ideas

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when he came to our annual meeting last
year um some ideas about what we might

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do in terms of uh tourism promotion and
so we will pick his brain next.

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» So, thank you N.
>> Thank you so much for your time and

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attention. I know you got a busy agenda.
I look back

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» if you wanted one of these

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great
>> Did you get one?

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» I did not. Oh, maybe.
>> No, no, I got

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to make enough.
>> Thank you very much, Nancy. I appreciate

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it. Um, next up is uh privilege of the
floor. Any member of the public is will

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is able to speak on any topic about the
town for up to three minutes. Is there

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anybody want to make a comment really?

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Um, my name is Vivian Rose again. I
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Trumansburg. I came before you in May
and asked you to pass a resolution

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uh declaring the 2nd through the 11th of
July uh celebrating 200 years of freedom

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days. This is a little report out. This
is the repress which has an article

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about everything that occurred. Um, this
is

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more you for your these are all the
posters for all of the events.

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Um,
these are

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little Revolutionary War soldier markers
that were placed on

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cemetery
um

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on stones of Revolutionary War soldiers
and Grove Cemetery. And at this

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memorial, which is labeled D memorial,
but this was actually a cooperation

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between the town and the local D to
install this memorial, which I added

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biographical information to the back so
people can All of these have gone to

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Grove Cemetery, so they're able to have
more tours if they wish. Um,

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and
there is this lovely

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lovely
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picture of the first reading of the
Declaration of Independence in State of

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New York, the brand new state of New
York by John Thomas and this

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illustration of the first printed
declaration in the state of New York.

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Now, what ties the town of Ulyses to
these items is the people who served on

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the commit on the in the battlefield,
including all of our veterans who are

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buried in our various um cemeteries who
settled here and who served on our town

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board who actually housed our town board
when there were meetings without a place

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to um without a place to meet um who
basically created the town of Ulisses.

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I'm here to say that I was surprised at
the amount of uh

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at the at the difficulty of inviting
people to participate. It appeared that

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some uh businesses didn't want to have
posters of events about the 250th.

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um our our local uh Facebook page didn't
want to post the posters. So, it feels

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to me I came away from this feeling like
we are sitting on deep divides that are

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not visible to us and they have to do
with who we are as a people. By

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comparison, in 1976,
we had a year's worth of celebrations,

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and that had to do with the
infrastructure that was created. There

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was a staff member on the town
staff who was the D regent who helped to

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create the Ulyses Historical Society in
advance of 1976.

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And there were multiple organizations
that worked with that kind of embedded

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world, the school district and etc. So
what carried that all together

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was the churches
and the community organizations,

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not necessarily the town government.
um when the town is not able to

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uh be able to reach out to
infrastructure like that, it's not able

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to do something like this. If you go
over to our Skyler, our neighbor, you

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will find that there celebrate 250 is in
every community doing walks and talks

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and festivals and book clubs and
exhibits. and their student intern

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actually just got an award from
Representative Laneworthy for his

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citizenship, for his civil for his I
just actually as a member of the D heard

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the Skyler County historian at Ulyses
Historical Society talk about the

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British prison ships
um which resulted from a skidding butts

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kicked in September October of 1776
because one of our revolutionary war

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soldiers who's buried in Updike's father
died on one of those ships. So I wanted

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to thank you. I wanted to let you know
what had been done. Um and I wanted to

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let you know that
very few people donated to this. So I

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have made a donation to this community
of about $1,000

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for the various things that have been
produced which I was happy to do. I'm a

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proud descendant of a Revolutionary War
soldiers and I am grateful every day for

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the fact that I live in New York
which was an original colony and what

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has made it possible for us to live here
together in our own country

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in our own democracy. So, thank you for
your time. This is for you all and I'll

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put these back up on your bulletin
board.

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But the rest of this is for you. Thank
you.

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» Thank you.
>> I just want to add that Yeah, that's I

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want to add that this package and and
the resolutions and all of the people

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who participated are going in a
collection that's going to be at the

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historical society. So that there's
something about the celebration of that

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250th anniversary here for future
generations. Thank you so much for your

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00:37:05,359 --> 00:37:08,079
time.
>> Thank you.

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» And I'm going to sit here and watch you
do what we're so happy about and this

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country govern ourselves. Thank you.
>> Okay. Anybody else wishing to address

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00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:23,680
the town board and privilege of the
floor? I did obviously give more than

413
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:30,160
three minutes by a couple laps. Um but
it seemed only fitting. Um okay, then I

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would um move uh continue on with
municipal uh board and staff reports.

415
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:44,359
Um, any any updates? Liz, are you in a
good spot to talk or No,

416
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,359
» I should be.

417
00:37:45,359 --> 00:37:52,960
» And then the commission.
Oh,

418
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:55,599
» I'm on 17. Can you hear?
>> It's okay. Do you I can give the

419
00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:59,520
commission update. I can give the youth
commission update. I was there.

420
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:06,960
» Huh.
um youth commission um had a meeting um

421
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:13,520
on September 1st um and it was our
annual budget meeting um and uh went

422
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:17,920
over budget presentation numbers and had
conversations and um the recommendations

423
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:24,240
coming out that will be embedded into
the town board's um budget um agenda on

424
00:38:21,839 --> 00:38:32,000
the 21st. the youth commission uh
representatives from the county and the

425
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:35,760
uh school district um uh also uh prior
to that meeting interviewed um the

426
00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:39,280
gentleman who's on here for the
appointment to fill the rec specialist

427
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:44,480
position. That's the it's that's its
title in civil service that this is the

428
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:48,079
person who we've the town Well Nancy I'm
glad Nancy's here. Um how long has the

429
00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:50,800
town been doing put you on the spot? How
long has the town been doing rural youth

430
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:55,839
services funding?
>> 1990. So this is a position in some

431
00:38:53,760 --> 00:39:01,119
capacity that's been around for for
quite since since I was too young.

432
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:08,880
» There was a youth worker here in Ulyses
actually Trumanburg before the youth

433
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:14,880
commission was created. Um the uh there
was the Ulyses Youth Unlimited program

434
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:19,760
existed for many years just sort of
independently on its own and then when

435
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:26,240
the youth commission was formed it
became the youth services program that

436
00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:33,520
has morphed many times that RISA was big
part of for many years and u

437
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:38,000
had the oversight support of these
commission. So yeah, so this is a

438
00:39:35,839 --> 00:39:43,920
position that's funded in collaboration
between the county, the village and the

439
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:49,440
town um and that's the minimum. So um we
um they gave their Hardy approval um for

440
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:52,640
that position um for the the folks who
represented on the interview committee.

441
00:39:51,119 --> 00:40:00,160
Um so that'll be coming to you later in
the agenda. Um, Three Falls had a

442
00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:03,440
meeting um, last Thursday. Um, and kind
of going over,

443
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:10,079
sorry, I don't know how I set my timer
off on myself. Um, the let's see, we um,

444
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:14,960
we're talking early budget numbers.
We'll be having our budget meeting in

445
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:20,000
October um, and going over summer
activities um, in terms of use of the

446
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:25,200
property um, coordinating. We are still
waiting on um New York State Parks uh

447
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:33,680
going through the environmental review
on the concept plan that uh was created

448
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:38,880
um uh and finished up um over the winter
um and uh until until we're we're

449
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:44,320
finalized there um we can't go forward
with any funding applications

450
00:40:41,119 --> 00:40:50,240
um or activities like that. Um was Liz,
is there anything else if you're able to

451
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,240
get on that you wanted to mention?

452
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:59,599
Okay, I think that's a headshake no.
Take that as a no. Um I know BZA didn't

453
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:03,440
have a meeting um on the landing board's
meeting was canceled last week also. So

454
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:06,880
I think it's fairly quiet in those
regards. Any other um town updates you'd

455
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,880
like to make about committees or
anything?

456
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:20,720
Okay. Um big focus here right now is
developing the the budget. Um,

457
00:41:17,839 --> 00:41:24,640
uh, Rachel, our legislator, um, is not
in attendance or able to attend, um,

458
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:28,400
because she has a a budget meeting
tonight. Um, but Chrissy, I think you

459
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:33,280
already posted her, um, you already
circulated her, u July report.

460
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,040
Um,
>> yeah. So,

461
00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:39,119
» August.
>> Oh. Oh, yeah. We're already in

462
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:44,880
September. Sorry.
>> Muddling my my months. Um, okay. Um,

463
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:48,640
next item of old business is the local
law amending chapter 200 of the town

464
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,920
code. Um, Chris, I'm going to put you a
little bit on the spot.

465
00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:54,079
» Yeah.
>> To talk about this because this is uh

466
00:41:51,599 --> 00:42:01,280
related to to your departments.
>> Okay. Um, first of all, I will say that

467
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:06,079
there um Vivian made a comment about the
20 calendar days and that is actually an

468
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:13,200
old version.
The correct version was posted for the

469
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:22,079
July 28th meeting in public hearing that
got cancelled. And um so that version

470
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:28,319
includes the change of 30 days before a
penalty will be implemented.

471
00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:33,280
Um so there's that
>> is that 210 C1

472
00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:38,000
» correct? Yep.
>> Is that the only change in there?

473
00:42:35,359 --> 00:42:41,440
or yeah,
>> because this was still one of them

474
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:46,640
posted for the meeting.
>> The one with 20 days was posted for this

475
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:53,200
meeting, but the the correct one of the
30 days was posted prior. It was the

476
00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:57,000
version that the board
when you set the hearing.

477
00:42:57,359 --> 00:43:09,520
Um but basically this law was written so
long ago that um we wanted to kind of

478
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:15,359
clarify some things and
make it a little bit more user friendly.

479
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:20,240
So changing the 20 days to 30 days was
one of the things.

480
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:26,480
um clarifying the language for the user
fees because in the way that we there

481
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:32,400
are different ways to bill and um
because you've got to bill for water

482
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:37,440
usage and for any debt for the water
district as well as for the operation

483
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:41,839
and maintenance and you can do that all
on the water bill. You can do it some on

484
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:47,520
the water bill and some on the tax bill
which is kind of what we do. So, we

485
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:53,920
wanted to just update the language to
reflect um how we've been doing it and

486
00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:57,680
also uh leave it open so that if in the
future we decide we want to do it a

487
00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:03,440
different way, we have the flexibility
to do that. So, we're not actually

488
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:08,160
implementing any additional um fees
right now. That's not um what this is

489
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:11,200
about.
Um

490
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:16,720
» can I just can I pop in on that? And and
so um as as you'll remember um and it's

491
00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:22,280
linked in actually in our on our page,
we set the fees um every January at

492
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,280
organization

493
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:29,040
» fees and rates I should say it's rates
really.

494
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:37,359
» The other change has to do with master
meters. So we have um a a couple of

495
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:44,800
situations where we have one meter that
is for an entire um you know for like

496
00:44:41,119 --> 00:44:52,319
several apartments or trailers and we
wanted to clarify the language and um

497
00:44:49,839 --> 00:44:58,400
it's become a little bit cumbersome for
the um water district operator to read

498
00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:03,760
all of those meters when we're also
reading a master meter.

499
00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:09,440
So, um would like to be able to focus on
just reading the mass for me.

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00:45:07,839 --> 00:45:15,040
» Shouldn't it be easier with the video
reads just to read them all?

501
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:22,800
» Um well, not all of them have been
updated.

502
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:27,359
So the bigger issue is um it's not I
don't think it's fair for the water

503
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:31,200
district to be paying for potential
water loss between the master meter and

504
00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:34,720
spread out on a private property that
has multiple residents because if

505
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:40,240
there's a break in the line even as it's
crossing you know quite a bit of footage

506
00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:45,440
on a private property
um having all those different meters at

507
00:45:43,359 --> 00:45:49,119
all the different residential locations
can result in water loss. that that the

508
00:45:47,839 --> 00:45:53,839
water district pays for, not the
property owner pays for. And it's very

509
00:45:51,119 --> 00:46:00,480
common in residential developments for
when they're rentals um for be it

510
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:04,079
electric, be it um you know water to
have a master meter and then as soon as

511
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:07,839
that pro you know as soon as it's
crossing their threshold onto their

512
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:10,960
property, it's their water. It's no
longer the town's water and so we can

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00:46:09,359 --> 00:46:15,920
bill it for all the water. than how they
choose to break it up among their

514
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:22,400
property owners um is or or you know
residents um units um is is their

515
00:46:19,839 --> 00:46:26,240
option. Um so that's that's one of it
because we could be relying on

516
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:31,040
antiquated infrastructure on private
property. Um and that becomes a problem

517
00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:34,960
for the water district. Keeping water
loss costs down as much as possible

518
00:46:33,119 --> 00:46:43,920
keeps prices down for the entire
district. Um and master meters are um

519
00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:49,280
uh was recommended um by by Scott and
Cararissa as as making that as clean as

520
00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:52,240
possible. So basically when you you're
connected to that master meter at the

521
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:55,839
edge of the property, everything past
that master meter is their

522
00:46:54,400 --> 00:47:01,599
responsibility as a private property
owner

523
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:06,720
whether they have one unit or 25.
Although nobody has 25, but they have

524
00:47:03,119 --> 00:47:12,400
close to 20 in one. So,
>> is this a preemptive move or there is

525
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:17,760
this responsive to you mentioned a
situation where there might be a pipe

526
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:23,119
damage and loss of water between the
master meter and extra meters that we're

527
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:27,760
also reading. So, are we like preempting
that or has that been a problem

528
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:31,520
» that we are aware of? So, so we don't
know of a problem, but you don't know of

529
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:37,680
a problem if you don't have just a
single and um we would need to the

530
00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:41,680
district would have to bear the cost of
replacing all of those not smart

531
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:45,040
vendors.
>> Um and so that would be a cost that

532
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,280
right now the district does not have the
money to

533
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,520
» but we replaced almost to
>> we didn't replace all of them on all of

534
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,480
those units. Now,
>> how many did we replace?

535
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:57,440
» We replaced most of I think we replaced
all of them on the one per property. We

536
00:47:55,119 --> 00:48:00,960
did not replace them all necessarily on
individual units on a single property.

537
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,880
» So the master meter will take care of
that.

538
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,040
» And it already has one. It already has a
smart meter. So it's not

539
00:48:03,839 --> 00:48:06,880
» You just didn't do the ones down from
the master.

540
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:11,119
» Yes.
>> It would have been 18 additional ones.

541
00:48:08,319 --> 00:48:14,680
» Scott still reading this.
>> Not really. No.

542
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:20,880
» So is this thing just
Why is it a bit though?

543
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,359
» Because it's extra labor for him.
>> Well, who's reading?

544
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:29,280
» Well, we're selling the water at the
mastering gear.

545
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:32,720
And then the tenants don't pay taxes.
Only the owner pays taxes.

546
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:37,400
» So if you're trying to recover the water
vents, you can recover the master meter.

547
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:44,480
» Well, it doesn't prohibit a private
property owner from putting meters of

548
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,920
their own on so that they appropriately.
>> Yeah, you can read them if he wants,

549
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:50,960
right?
>> You know, do that. But that's not really

550
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:54,640
an US thing. And you know, as people are
adding on more AUDs, what we also talked

551
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:59,440
about is we don't want to be in the
middle of a landlord tenant dispute

552
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:03,280
about how much water is being used and
and who's responsible and all of that.

553
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:06,480
If you have a master meter, it's at the
edge of the property. It's by the

554
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:10,079
property owner. It's a very clear you
you know, a clear this person is

555
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,079
responsible and if they don't pay, it
goes onto the

556
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,400
» So, if you have an AUD, you don't have
to put another meter on. You have to

557
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:18,240
master meter.
>> If in this in this case, that would be

558
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:22,079
the case. Yes. You wouldn't have to have
a second one. This would be a single one

559
00:49:20,079 --> 00:49:25,599
per property. And then if the private
property owner wants to put on a meter,

560
00:49:24,079 --> 00:49:30,319
then that's their prerogative. But
they're going to be responsible from the

561
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:33,680
master meter line or the master meter um
where it's connecting the line on their

562
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:37,280
private property will be their
responsibility, right? If they have a

563
00:49:35,359 --> 00:49:41,359
water leak in the middle of their
property between their house and an AUD

564
00:49:39,359 --> 00:49:44,079
that's 100 ft away, right? That's going
to be them that they're going to have to

565
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:47,119
figure it out, but they're going to be
responsible for it. the town's not

566
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:51,200
getting in the middle of it and saying,
"Well, because we with it's it's

567
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:54,960
difficult. We we only want to be
responsible for that which we can

568
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:59,280
evaluate, right? Like if there's a leak,
we want to be able to track it on our

569
00:49:56,319 --> 00:50:02,720
own town district lines. Um, and when
you get with all these other meters, it

570
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:08,400
just becomes something that's not
feasible to do." Um, so this would clean

571
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:13,839
up the process. And so as people add um
you know an an AUD they can

572
00:50:12,559 --> 00:50:18,720
they have a master meter and if they
choose to put on their own meter to read

573
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:22,559
it at the AUD then that is that's their
prerogative but it's not our

574
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:27,280
responsibility to like be parsing it
out. Um it's much easier if we have a

575
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:30,400
single meter and if the bill is paid you
know the bill is not paid the way it

576
00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:33,280
works right if it's not paid after a
certain point at the end of the year

577
00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:39,280
it's remitted onto their taxes. So, we
want have it's it makes sense to have it

578
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:43,200
cleanly attached to um to a property
because you also wouldn't want um I can

579
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:46,720
see the reverse side, right? If you're a
landlord and you don't realize that you

580
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:51,760
have a tenant who has been racking up
significant bills, right? Um, and you

581
00:50:50,559 --> 00:50:54,559
don't know there's a water problem
because they haven't told you. And then

582
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:58,559
at the end of the year, you're getting
smacked with

583
00:50:56,319 --> 00:51:03,839
» a landlord. You see the water meter, you
see the water bill

584
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:05,760
every quarter
>> with a master meter. You do.

585
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:09,359
» Yeah.
>> If you don't have master meters though,

586
00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:13,040
you wouldn't necessarily, right? So, if
you think about it, if you have a

587
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:16,720
property with 10 units and you don't
have a master meter and each of them are

588
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:19,839
getting metered individually,
if they don't pay their water bill, what

589
00:51:18,720 --> 00:51:23,040
happens to that water bill? Right? It
gets emitted remitted onto the tax bill.

590
00:51:21,839 --> 00:51:26,960
But if they're receiving the bill
directly for their water and it's not

591
00:51:25,119 --> 00:51:30,480
going through the landlord, the owner of
the property, that landlord can be

592
00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:32,640
surprised with something at the end of
the year if something isn't paid. Does

593
00:51:32,079 --> 00:51:35,599
that make sense?
>> Well, doesn't it have to go through the

594
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:39,760
landlord? cuz that's the address of the
ownership of the where the bill would go

595
00:51:38,079 --> 00:51:42,960
to the owner of the property, not to the
tenant.

596
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:46,400
» Well, it depends on if you have if we're
going to install a meter though on each

597
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:49,839
if we in the theory where we're
installing a meter on each individual

598
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:54,640
residence,
then the then then the expectation,

599
00:51:53,119 --> 00:51:56,480
right, is that residence is paying for
the bill, right?

600
00:51:55,839 --> 00:52:00,559
» Yeah.
>> But that's not necessarily the landlord.

601
00:51:58,079 --> 00:52:05,280
» It depends on the leases, right?
>> Sure. Absolutely. But at the end of the

602
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:08,559
day, do you want to if we don't change
the law, we're going to need to pay for

603
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:11,359
out of the water district, which does
not have the money. So, we'd be raising

604
00:52:09,839 --> 00:52:16,559
taxes for the water district to pay for
it. Um, a a chunk of new meters or and

605
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:20,720
then we'd be relying on the
infrastructure on private property in

606
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:24,559
this one particular case, not counting
there are other cases, there are other

607
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:29,440
properties as well. um we'd be relying
on infrastructure that's transmitting

608
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:32,559
that water from the the edge of the road
where the pit is to the different

609
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:36,960
properties with potential leaks that
we're not aware of. The reality is is

610
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:41,760
the recommendation has been that putting
a master meter pit um at the edge of the

611
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:46,319
property and knowing how much water is
going in there is in the best interest

612
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:52,400
of the water district so that we can
keep track of water loss because water

613
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:56,160
loss is an expensive thing. um you know
unintended water losses can really drive

614
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:58,880
up the cost because the district bears
those costs not just an individual

615
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,440
property owner.
>> So have we ident we've had leaks in the

616
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,839
past.
>> Oh we have yeah leaks happen.

617
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,559
» Yeah.
>> So are we monitoring those?

618
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:09,040
» Of course with the meter.
>> Well we're monitoring to those meter but

619
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:14,559
that's not the only place you get a
leak. Right. We work with Bolton Point

620
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:17,680
um to they have a GPS system um that we
can use. Chissa what are some of the

621
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:22,400
other ways? They do fire they do
inspections of the fire hydrants. Um,

622
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:26,240
what else is on that list of things we
do to

623
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:31,440
Scott's really in charge of that
>> point can monitor the water use. So if

624
00:53:28,240 --> 00:53:38,040
there's a big pull from
it, they get alerted. It's all all

625
00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:38,040
connected to the internet.

626
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:55,440
Okay. So, any further discussion on it,
questions, concerns?

627
00:53:53,839 --> 00:54:01,520
» This sounds this sounds like we're
bringing code in line with a um a

628
00:53:58,240 --> 00:54:04,960
proposed idea that also aligns with some
things that are effectively already

629
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:10,480
happening, right? That we're not
necessarily reading or actively reading

630
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:16,480
meters that we could curious about the
workload that this adds to our team

631
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:21,440
install. You mentioned installing new
master meters and there's there was

632
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:26,319
previous master meters installed. Is
there just thinking about the cost and

633
00:54:24,079 --> 00:54:33,040
the time
for I'm assuming I'm I'm asking I guess

634
00:54:29,839 --> 00:54:38,480
are are we then the town installing
master meters at these locations that

635
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:42,559
don't currently have them? And
what's that cost and time like how long

636
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:47,839
does that take? Is that a couple months,
a couple years over time? I'm not aware

637
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:54,520
that we need to install any master.
It's the opposite. We're trying to not

638
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:54,520
reinstall all the submeters associated.

639
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:59,680
» We're just saying we're going to rely on
the reading of the master meter and not

640
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:02,800
get into the reading of all the
submeters on private property.

641
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:07,119
» Okay.
>> So, the expectation is that there's no

642
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:11,200
new cost associated with this. And then
we do have a cost. So if somebody builds

643
00:55:09,599 --> 00:55:14,960
a, you know, there's a subdivision of
the house, someone puts up a new house,

644
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:19,520
there's a cost for them to have all of
that stuff installed. So we don't, so

645
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:23,040
there's no expectation that this is
going to create any new expenditure. In

646
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:26,960
fact, it reduces expenditure.
>> Okay.

647
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:31,520
» So on our vouchers today,
we have $43,698

648
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:37,359
in water.
>> Of which $10,452

649
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:41,760
is water loss. So that's like a third of
the whole bill is water loss. Is that is

650
00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:45,599
that normal?
>> Nope. And that's why we got alerted to

651
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:50,559
it. And Scott thinks he's tracked down
what it is. And it was a fire hydrant.

652
00:55:47,839 --> 00:55:53,680
And so they did a repair what, a week
ago?

653
00:55:51,359 --> 00:55:56,960
» Yeah. I think on Thursday he's going to
be able to pull a log from the last week

654
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,520
and see if
>> that's what did it.

655
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:04,720
» The reads are still high.
>> Yeah.

656
00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:08,160
» Who alerts us to that? You said we got
an alert or we got ben point.

657
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:11,839
» Yeah.
>> What's their what's the red flag number?

658
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,799
Do you know it's like I don't know. It
is

659
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:17,920
» well
>> is a percentage increase or

660
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:21,520
» us actually doing that math and getting
the bill from Bolton boy compared to

661
00:56:19,839 --> 00:56:26,799
what we build out and saying well
there's a big discrepancy.

662
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:30,960
» So we just had a meter reading and so we
did catch it wasn't caught really until

663
00:56:28,720 --> 00:56:33,359
our last meter reading which was what
two weeks ago.

664
00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:37,680
» Yeah. So,
>> so the water district is paying for the

665
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:41,200
water loss,
which isn't a good thing.

666
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:44,480
» No,
>> but legally there's no one else to,

667
00:56:42,799 --> 00:56:51,200
» right? Yeah. No, no, I got that. So,
>> you're saying this is very large loss.

668
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:55,920
» It is. It is.
>> We're glad if Scott found it.

669
00:56:53,119 --> 00:57:00,720
» So, hopefully he did. Yeah. Hopefully
that's that's what did it.

670
00:56:58,559 --> 00:57:03,359
But um you said on Thursday they're able
to pull

671
00:57:01,359 --> 00:57:07,119
» I think that's what Lori said. Yeah.
>> Yeah.

672
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:10,559
» So that'll check to see usage and see do
a comparison to see if that's resulted

673
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:13,440
in a decrease.
>> Thank you. So

674
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:16,160
» can we get a report or just another
report on that at the next meeting?

675
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,960
» Um it's got to happen.
>> Yeah. I think usually Scott puts that

676
00:57:17,599 --> 00:57:22,240
stuff in his report. So it probably
would be in his report for the next

677
00:57:20,319 --> 00:57:28,599
meeting.
>> His highway report.

678
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:28,599
» Any other questions about this?

679
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:36,720
Okay. Well, I am going to uh there's
it's a standalone resolution.

680
00:57:35,599 --> 00:57:43,400
» You're going to move it.
>> Yeah. I'm going to go ahead and move it.

681
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:43,400
Um it's a second standalone resolution.

682
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:48,400
» Um
so, I'm just going to read the resolves.

683
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:52,480
Uh now, therefore, be it resolved that
the town board of the town of Ulyses

684
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:55,520
hereby adopts a local law titled a local
law amending chapter 200 of the town

685
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:59,200
code. And be it further resolved that
the town clerk is hereby authorized and

686
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:02,319
directed to file the local law with the
New York State Secretary of State in

687
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:06,079
accordance with the municipal home rule
law. And be it further resolved that the

688
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:10,799
town clerk, town attorney, and such
other count town officers and employees

689
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:14,400
as may be necessary are hereby
authorized and directed to take such

690
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:17,760
additional steps as may be necessary or
appropriate to carry out the intent of

691
00:58:15,839 --> 00:58:21,520
this resolution and effectuate the
filing and implementation of the local

692
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:27,440
law. So I'll move that.
>> Thank you. Any further discussion?

693
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:30,839
Okay. Uh, all those in favor?
>> I I

694
00:58:31,119 --> 00:58:38,079
Liz, are you voting?
>> I Yeah, there you go. Assuming that

695
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:44,240
assuming that's denying.
Um,

696
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:49,599
okay. So, next up is a local law to over
tax cap limit for 2027.

697
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:55,680
um as a precursor of what's coming in
the budget season. Um

698
00:58:53,359 --> 00:59:01,520
the to stay under the tax cap means we
would have to stay under $65,000

699
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:06,799
increase and um the precursor is I'm
looking at over $104,000

700
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:10,240
exclusively related to fire and EMS.
>> So when you subtract those numbers

701
00:59:09,839 --> 00:59:11,119
» increase
>> Yes.

702
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:15,920
» Yes.
>> Yeah.

703
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:20,960
100. It's approximately 104,000.
Um, fire uh budget. The meeting is

704
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:24,799
tomorrow. If anybody wants to attend, if
you plan to attend, please let Kissa

705
00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:32,559
know. Um, there'll be a 6 p.m. meeting
at the village hall um for fire and EM

706
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:41,359
um the annual meeting. Um
and our fire is expected to our shares

707
00:59:38,079 --> 00:59:45,280
going up. Um mostly related to the
five-year transition that we've been

708
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:49,280
making um that moved it more towards
property tax based or property

709
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:55,599
assessment based. Ulyses is the biggest
dog in the in the kennel when it comes

710
00:59:52,240 --> 01:00:02,160
to um the property or the municipalities
participating.

711
00:59:57,119 --> 01:00:06,720
Um, EMS is a sizable increase. Um, uh,
budgetary impact looks like it's going

712
01:00:03,599 --> 01:00:10,400
to be about 18%. Um, our shares 14% of
the total, but or not 14% of the total,

713
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:16,799
it's a 14% there. But when I'm looking
at preliminary increases in taxes, um,

714
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:22,079
that's uh, related to to largely fires.
And to put that into perspective, we

715
01:00:19,599 --> 01:00:27,599
would have to get rid of zoning and
everybody related to zoning in the town.

716
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:31,599
And that would about cover the cost of
the increase of these two services for

717
01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:36,640
one year. It would not even touch. We're
going to be we're going to be breaking

718
01:00:32,799 --> 01:00:42,079
$900,000 for buying EMS services alone.
>> Insane.

719
01:00:37,839 --> 01:00:48,319
» So um we're looking at uh 20% I'm sorry
19.5 uh roughly in health insurance

720
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:53,599
alone. We're estimating a minimum of 10%
for um uh services uh related to

721
01:00:52,079 --> 01:01:02,400
insurance.
um and um benefits. Um so I mean the the

722
01:00:59,599 --> 01:01:07,040
numbers are are sizable. Um counting
cutting out, you know, youth recreation,

723
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:11,040
um anything related to that, we wouldn't
even begin to touch the increase

724
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:16,160
percentage wise. Um it's just these
numbers are so big. Um they're creeping

725
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:22,000
up towards the 50% of our entire uh
taxable levy. Um, good news is if you're

726
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:26,720
um not in if you're if you're a village
resident um you pay those bills, you pay

727
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:34,799
fire and EMS through the uh through the
village. Um these are for the the 104

728
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:41,119
roughly is connected to uh the town um
residents outside the village. Um and

729
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:46,559
that's born exclusively by them. Um so
yeah um these are just incredible years

730
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:52,640
uh incredible year in terms of cost
hikes. Um

731
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:56,720
so it'll be interesting. Uh but I when I
saw the preliminary numbers those are

732
01:01:54,319 --> 01:01:59,720
those are what we're working with.
So

733
01:02:00,319 --> 01:02:08,400
uh so I don't see anything we can do but
pass this. um and see, you know, we're

734
01:02:06,079 --> 01:02:14,640
bringing I'll bring with Blixie I'll
bring a budget on the 21st um that you

735
01:02:12,319 --> 01:02:20,480
know,
you know, we'll we're doing what we can,

736
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:26,160
but I don't have $104,000 hiding in the
cushions. Um part of the problem is EMS

737
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:33,200
revenue has been flat since 2016. So, in
2016, our EMS revenue was uh $80,000. In

738
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:35,920
2025, our EMS revenue was $80,000, which
means it's less money than it was in

739
01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:40,000
2016.
>> So, this new new group get billing

740
01:02:38,319 --> 01:02:43,520
situation isn't really helping.
>> Well, it it's helping a little bit, but

741
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:49,040
because it's better 2025 is better than
2024, but Medicare doesn't has an

742
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:53,280
increased rates of reimbursement, and
that happens to be one of the biggest

743
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:58,079
drivers. Medicare and Medicaid um
insurance uh are huge drivers of um

744
01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:03,680
reimbursements
>> because those are frequently the

745
01:03:00,319 --> 01:03:07,359
populations that that um are are needing
ambulance care, which is which makes

746
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:13,680
sense. But when your average transport
costs $900 and we get $180 back, can't

747
01:03:11,359 --> 01:03:17,359
make the ma the math doesn't math. So,
it's being it's being subsidized at the

748
01:03:15,599 --> 01:03:22,000
the rate of the taxpayer, but I've yet
to have a single resident in the entire

749
01:03:18,799 --> 01:03:30,720
town ask me to cut EMS services.
>> So, um you know, uh that's that's really

750
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:37,839
where our costs are significant.
Um and going into going in we going into

751
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:43,440
this year like I said you know we're
effectively flat which means it's a loss

752
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:49,760
for revenue and costs before this before
2027 had gone up 67% from 2016. So when

753
01:03:48,319 --> 01:03:57,760
your costs go up and your revenue
remains flat there is a a um share of

754
01:03:53,920 --> 01:04:03,280
the tax it becomes a tax burden.
So,

755
01:04:00,319 --> 01:04:07,119
um,
so that's that's kind of where we are.

756
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:13,440
So, I'm, you know, we can certainly talk
more about it, but I'm going to go ahead

757
01:04:08,319 --> 01:04:20,400
and and move the the tax cap the
resolution um adopting a local

758
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:25,920
uh resolution approving a local law that
overrides the tax cap for 2027. uh to

759
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:30,559
override the tax levy levy limit
established in general municipal law 3C

760
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:34,559
» second.
>> Thank you. Any further discussion?

761
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:40,760
» This is going to be local law number
four since we just

762
01:04:37,599 --> 01:04:40,760
» Thank you.

763
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:49,280
» I mean we in past years talked about
maybe talking in bangs to see if there's

764
01:04:47,359 --> 01:04:55,119
other options.
I based on based on my knowledge of

765
01:04:52,160 --> 01:05:00,240
what's been discussed at TECOG um and
what's been presented to the county and

766
01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:03,920
the news reports that's not the case. Um
you know I'm grateful it's a and it's

767
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:07,680
expensive bill but I'm grateful we have
an EMS service here. They're looking at

768
01:05:05,839 --> 01:05:12,720
response rates where banks can come in
or mutual aid can come in of Enfield and

769
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:18,000
Newfield to 25 28 minutes. You know
that's just an inconceivably long time

770
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:21,920
to wait for medical medical services. Um
the most recent thing I continue to hear

771
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:25,520
is that um banks has never been
interested in signing contracts with

772
01:05:23,359 --> 01:05:29,839
municipalities uh because that limits
their coverage area potentially. So

773
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:35,359
that's not they're stretched thin. It
used to be that there was a lot more

774
01:05:31,839 --> 01:05:39,680
mutual mutual mutual aid, right? Where
um they were they were coming in and we

775
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:43,119
were backfilling them and you know there
was there was a lot of parody and then

776
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:47,280
after co that's not been the case. We're
looking at an average of between 10 and

777
01:05:44,799 --> 01:05:50,960
15% of calls are going out of district.
Majority of those ambulance calls are

778
01:05:49,039 --> 01:05:56,960
going into the city of Ithaca. Dryen is
looking at 40% are going outside their

779
01:05:53,520 --> 01:06:02,160
district into areas that um right are
not paying for uh municipal ambulance

780
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:07,839
service. So, City of Ithaca residents do
not pay a dollar for for ambulance

781
01:06:04,799 --> 01:06:11,119
services. Not a dollar. They don't pay
any taxes for ambulance services. They

782
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:14,319
have paramedics who work for the fire
department. They have a paid fire

783
01:06:12,319 --> 01:06:18,720
department, but you can't transport a
patient on a firet truck. So, they need

784
01:06:16,799 --> 01:06:23,119
an ambulance to show up and they're not
paying for it. The only this is this is

785
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:26,880
a it's, you know, it's my soap box. This
is going to explode. This is this is a

786
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:31,920
crisis that everybody knows about. The
county knows about it. They've had a

787
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:37,200
report that said as much. And what the
reality is is we need countywide

788
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:41,599
emergency services for ambulances the
same way we have a sheriff's department.

789
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:45,200
And it's just a matter of time to when
there'll be enough political pressure

790
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:50,720
put on by constituents to demand it.
>> In terms of talk about their recovery

791
01:06:47,359 --> 01:06:54,640
from out of district calls,
>> I mean, they bill for out of district

792
01:06:52,319 --> 01:06:59,359
calls, but they're in the same boat we
are that we bill and if somebody doesn't

793
01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:04,720
pay, they're still, you know, there's
there's a lot of what they're doing are

794
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:09,839
second calls. So, they're there as a
backfill to to an to to Bang. So they're

795
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:14,480
in the city of Ithaca because Banks is
tied up and and they need a second

796
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:17,680
ambulance in accessible. Um and so
there's no money made there, right? Like

797
01:07:16,319 --> 01:07:23,280
if you're not transporting, you're not
making any money. Um so they do bill. Uh

798
01:07:21,359 --> 01:07:26,799
but they're in the same boat we are as
if we bill and someone doesn't pay,

799
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:29,119
quite honestly, we don't we don't go to
collections for them.

800
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:33,119
» Were they transparent about it though?
Because they were putting We never saw

801
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:36,960
that on the when we'd go to the meetings
and they'd give us the budget sheet. I

802
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:40,400
never saw that line item on there
>> of revenue generated. Um I haven't

803
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:44,240
looked that thoroughly at this one. Um
Blixie um Blixie is coming to the

804
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:48,079
meeting tomorrow night and she has a set
of questions I can ask her about that. I

805
01:07:46,319 --> 01:07:50,880
didn't delve into that that aspect of
it. I was

806
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:57,599
» primed that before the meeting so we're
not blindsided with it.

807
01:07:53,920 --> 01:08:01,599
» Yeah. Um the a village is seeing a 19.5%
increase in theirs um because of the

808
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:06,480
call volume. Um EMS is all call volume
related.

809
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:11,720
So their their their shares going up for
EMS. Also, their fire bills are going

810
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,720
down.

811
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,640
Um,

812
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:24,480
okay. Well, I moved it. Michael seconded
it. If there's no further discussion,

813
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:29,839
call for a vote. All those in favor?
>> I I

814
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:35,679
Liz voted I.
Um, thank you. Um, okay. Appointment uh

815
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:41,199
to fill a recreation specialist
position. This is the youth services

816
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:47,759
position. This is the uh gentleman um
who will uh he's in the budget. Um Lucky

817
01:08:44,480 --> 01:08:55,279
um uh left us in July to go to graduate
school um uh in another state. So there

818
01:08:51,279 --> 01:08:58,960
was no um uh no way to do that. And it
looks like it got an older version of my

819
01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:06,480
resolution. So, let me pull that up
quickly while um I apologize that I did

820
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:12,440
not catch that when I
in a moment so I can read it out loud.

821
01:09:09,440 --> 01:09:12,440
Um

822
01:09:16,719 --> 01:09:24,239
um so uh we'd be appointing um uh Thomas
Cronin

823
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:30,080
um
uh to serve as our recreation specialist

824
01:09:27,199 --> 01:09:34,880
effective September 8th, 2026.
Um at a rate of uh this is the budgetary

825
01:09:33,440 --> 01:09:43,040
amount that was previously paid of
$23.69 69 cents an hour uh for up to 19

826
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:47,520
hours um per week and that is budgeted
that's period um for clarity that is

827
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:52,400
budgeted at an average of 15 hours a
week. Um and we have to stay under 19

828
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:57,520
and that's what they they work but um
under 19 because after 19 it um when you

829
01:09:55,199 --> 01:10:02,000
average it it goes into benefit c it
goes into the benefits category. This is

830
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:05,679
a position without benefits other than
our contribution to the retirement

831
01:10:04,159 --> 01:10:10,880
system.
Um so there's no health benefits

832
01:10:07,199 --> 01:10:20,360
associated with this. Um
uh Tommy is uh coming to us from Ithaca

833
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:20,360
College. She's currently um doing a uh

834
01:10:20,480 --> 01:10:32,239
a master's certificate master's program
um at Sunni Courtland in recreation. Um

835
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:36,400
and uh he's uh he's he's lovely. Um he's
worked with the middle school population

836
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:41,040
before. um as part of his work as as
part of his uh program at Ithaca

837
01:10:39,199 --> 01:10:46,239
College, he created his own his own
program. And he's going to be primarily

838
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:51,280
um running the community center um after
school um at uh the Church of the

839
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:55,040
Epiphany, which is obviously secular
programming, but it's in the space. We

840
01:10:52,719 --> 01:10:58,320
have a lease with them. Um and that's
going to be starting, I believe, on

841
01:10:56,400 --> 01:11:05,360
Monday. So, we were fortunate to be able
to um do get him in place right as the

842
01:11:02,159 --> 01:11:09,040
school year is started. Um, but Rick
from the county and Paul Paddock from

843
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:14,080
the school and Rachel and I all
interviewed him and um I think he has a

844
01:11:11,679 --> 01:11:18,480
lot of potential.
So I will move that. Is there a second?

845
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:22,440
» Second.
>> Thank you. Any further discussion?

846
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:30,400
Okay. Um, then I will call for a vote.
All those in favor?

847
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:34,800
» I.
>> And Liz is voting yes also.

848
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:39,440
Okay. Well, it's nice to have Nancy here
because um she's next up. Um Nancy

849
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:44,960
applied to to fill a vacancy on the
youth commission. We have an open um uh

850
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:51,520
seat uh for a representative of the town
of Ulyses. Um and uh uh youth commission

851
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:56,800
members were were supportive of your
inclusion. Um and so I'm I'm happy to to

852
01:11:54,960 --> 01:12:01,120
make pass make this resolution. uh
resolved that the Ulyses Town Board

853
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:08,320
appoints uh the following person to
serve as a representative from Ulyses uh

854
01:12:05,199 --> 01:12:13,520
uh on the Truman Ulyses Youth Commission
through December 31st, 2026. And that

855
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:17,280
person is Nancy Zaylor. Thank you very
much for being willing to do that.

856
01:12:15,679 --> 01:12:20,719
» Um is there a second?
>> Second.

857
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:24,800
» Thank you. Um
don't think much discussion is

858
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:31,760
necessary, but all those in favor I.
Thank you, Nancy.

859
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:35,360
And um after that um Liz would like to
hand off the board of zoning the BZA to

860
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:38,400
you Rich. Were you are you willing to
take that? Sure.

861
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:43,840
» She's already here for youth commissions
on the date. So she said she's happy to

862
01:12:40,719 --> 01:12:47,520
stay with planning board. Um but BZA,
you want to hand off BCA?

863
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:51,280
» Yep.
>> Off your hand.

864
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:56,080
» Great. So, I'll make the motion
>> that the Ulissiz Town Board makes the

865
01:12:53,840 --> 01:13:01,360
following adjustments to board leaison
positions

866
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:07,760
uh replacing um Elizabeth Weatherbe,
with thanks, comma, uh for service on as

867
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:17,760
a liaison to the Ulyses Board of Zoning
Appeals and appoint uh Rich Goldman to

868
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:24,640
serve through December 31st, 2026.
>> Second. Thank you. All those in favor?

869
01:13:21,199 --> 01:13:28,400
I. Awesome. Thank you. Okay.
>> Why are we talking about the planning

870
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:31,199
board and the ECA? We still have a
vacancy on the planning board, don't we?

871
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:35,840
» Uhu.
>> But I think we they've had some

872
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:42,000
applications. So I would you should talk
to um the committee and that committee

873
01:13:38,719 --> 01:13:47,280
of review was Liz Weatherbe and
Carl um

874
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:50,960
and so when Liz is not here um because
that would be an executive session

875
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:53,440
discussion. I think that that's a direct
conversation you guys could have. We

876
01:13:52,480 --> 01:13:56,640
have
>> cell phone numbers have a conversation.

877
01:13:56,159 --> 01:14:00,239
» Okay.
>> She can give you an update.

878
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:02,560
» Hard to put Liz in executive session
right now.

879
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:09,280
Um but good question. Um okay. Um
upcoming events in addition to the

880
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:12,560
meeting tomorrow night. If you want to
attend um at 6 o'clock in village hall

881
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:13,840
and fire at EMS.
>> Are you going?

882
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,880
» Um
>> yes,

883
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:21,600
» we have a special town board meeting um
at 9:00 a.m. on September 21st and that

884
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:26,400
will be our budget meeting. We're going
to do a single day meeting

885
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:32,880
and um then we have the next day our
regular town board meeting on the 22nd.

886
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:38,000
Um,
and then we have I don't have any board

887
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:41,719
notifications. Uh, budget modifications.
We do have budget modifications.

888
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:53,920
I'm happy to walk through. Um,
so the first one in the A fund, um, this

889
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:56,400
budget adjustment reflects anticipated
health insurance spending for the

890
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:59,600
remainder of the year. the increase
costed due to incurring the cost of a

891
01:14:58,239 --> 01:15:06,320
family plan rather than the single plan
that was budgeted for in 2026. So, we

892
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:12,000
had somebody who chose to go on um to u
health insurance uh for a family plan

893
01:15:08,239 --> 01:15:18,080
rather than the single plan. Um
the uh the next one

894
01:15:16,239 --> 01:15:21,199
um this adjustment reflects anticipated
legal costs through the end of the year

895
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:26,640
as well as some anticipated contractual
expenditures for our new historian. So,

896
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:31,679
the historian was $100. Um, and uh we're
pulling out a contingency more money um

897
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:39,280
for the attorney.
Um recreation uh summer camp staff. Um

898
01:15:36,159 --> 01:15:42,400
it's a it's an increase of $4,200. Uh
this adjustment reflects increased cost

899
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:45,840
and personnel for summer camp with the
use of anticipated savings and

900
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:51,280
contractual cost covering an overage.
So, camp did get more expensive. It

901
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:55,679
simply were just moving stuff around. um
health insurance. Um we have an increase

902
01:15:53,920 --> 01:16:00,800
of $15,000
uh uh from contingency from our

903
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:03,600
contingency benefits line. Um this
budget adjustment reflects anticipated

904
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:08,080
health insurance spending through the
main during the year. Uh increased cost

905
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:12,000
due to incurring the cost of a family
plan rather than a single plan that was

906
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:16,400
budgeted for 2026.
And

907
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:21,920
um in the DA, so that was the B fund. in
the DA fund. Um we have um an increase

908
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:26,480
in health insurance and it's being
pulled out of maintenance of bridges

909
01:16:23,440 --> 01:16:28,800
contractual. Um this budget adjustment
reflects anticipated health insurance

910
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:32,000
spending through the remainder of the
year. The increased cost is due to

911
01:16:30,239 --> 01:16:36,560
shifting of the allocation of personnel
and benefits among cost centers and

912
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:41,679
funds. Anticipated savings in
engineering costs for bridges will cover

913
01:16:38,239 --> 01:16:47,840
the overage. Um
and um S SW fund um we had a increase of

914
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:52,400
$500.
Um the adjustment reflects anticipated

915
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:58,560
spending for purification chemicals
through the end of the year. So any

916
01:16:55,199 --> 01:17:01,280
questions about that?
Pretty straightforward.

917
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:07,920
» Nope.
>> Health insurance. It's expensive.

918
01:17:05,199 --> 01:17:09,920
» Okay. I will move those um budget
modifications as presented. Is there a

919
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,960
second?
>> Second.

920
01:17:10,480 --> 01:17:16,159
» Thank you. All those in favor?
>> I.

921
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:19,600
» Okay. Next up is payment of audited
claims. Um do we have two reviewers?

922
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:21,840
» Yes.
>> Okay. Thank you.

923
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:26,000
» Thank you.
>> Um

924
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:29,920
so I'll read the resolution and then if
there's any discussion about anything,

925
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:33,360
we can discuss it. um resolved that the
Ulyses Town Board approves payment of

926
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:38,640
the following audited claims. Voucher
number 19 in the HA fund totaling 20

927
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:43,840
$2,87011
and vouchers number 410 through449 and

928
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:46,840
the A through SW funds totaling
$128,33.37.

929
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:55,360
» Second.
>> Thank you. Any discussion or questions

930
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:59,840
about the vouchers? Uh yeah, some of the
um some of them could use some more

931
01:17:57,679 --> 01:18:03,440
clarification on there.
>> I'm familiar with them. I've you know

932
01:18:02,159 --> 01:18:07,600
» would you do you have any ones in
particular?

933
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:10,320
» Well, like there was the one survey one
that I pulled out that cursive very

934
01:18:09,199 --> 01:18:14,000
clear.
>> Oh, the survey. Yeah.

935
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:17,040
» Just some of those like there'll be a
invoice for something. There'll be like

936
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:22,560
a part number on it so somebody could
just say it's a you know a wheel bearing

937
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:26,719
or whatever the heck but can't tell what
some of them are

938
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:29,840
» just note for
>> is that something we can do

939
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:34,159
» noted. Yeah, sometimes it's just for
hard for us to tell

940
01:18:31,199 --> 01:18:38,159
» because you don't know either.
>> Yeah, generally they were pretty good

941
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:43,360
about writing them on there,
>> but this time I noticed that

942
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:49,040
some of them were missing.
>> That's all. Okay, thank you. Um, we have

943
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:52,719
a motion and a second. Any further
discussion?

944
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:56,239
» Okay. All those in favor?
>> I.

945
01:18:54,080 --> 01:19:02,280
» Okay. Then go full circle back to put
them to the floor. I will take those out

946
01:18:58,480 --> 01:19:02,280
of your hands. Thank you.

947
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:07,719
» Um, and let me get my timer.

948
01:19:08,239 --> 01:19:12,960
Okay. Anybody who wishes to address the
town board privilege to the floor?

949
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:18,280
» Yes, I do.
>> Okay. come on up this time. I am going

950
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:18,280
to set the timer though.

951
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:25,840
» Yeah, there's a lot that goes on in this
little town.

952
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:29,600
Uh, so my name is Vivian Rose. I still
live at 104 Pennsylvania Avenue in St.

953
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:36,239
Jamesburg, New York. And I want to point
out that it's the 175th anniversary of

954
01:19:32,159 --> 01:19:41,679
the founding of the Union Agricultural
and Horicultural Society of Hector

955
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:49,120
Cobber and Ulyses. This year they have
just successfully had an amazing fair

956
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:57,040
and um they successfully
showcased not only a historic uh

957
01:19:52,480 --> 01:20:06,239
traveling uh their
company, the Coleman Brothers, but they

958
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:10,480
also uh have had a full barn thanks to
the participation of the

959
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:19,440
F the 4F
>> future farmers of America.

960
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:24,719
» Yes. Uhhuh. Uh it's thanks to them and
our local reporter said in the Cornell

961
01:20:22,719 --> 01:20:32,080
University area that this was an
agricultural bear. This predates

962
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:37,280
Cornell. It predates the a spool and it
is a treasure. So, I wanted to bring it

963
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:41,760
to your attention that this treasure is
sitting on that beautiful property

964
01:20:39,199 --> 01:20:48,880
across from that Smith Woods. And if
there is any way to preserve and support

965
01:20:44,719 --> 01:20:55,520
the operation of that as an agricultural
facility for our community, that would

966
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:59,280
be one way to undergur our local food
production. M

967
01:20:56,800 --> 01:21:04,719
» what we see is Denver Derby's parades
with fire trucks that are rural fire.

968
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:09,760
That's why that parade was created
support rural fire communities and the

969
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:19,199
rides.
But it's the horse poles and the cows

970
01:21:15,199 --> 01:21:23,840
that are the core of that historic local
community organization. That's three

971
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:28,719
county organization. You already know
all this. Would you allow me to write a

972
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:36,560
resolution
in honor of that association located in

973
01:21:32,159 --> 01:21:40,800
the town of Ulyses for this 175th year?
>> Or would you do it yourselves?

974
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:44,400
» Um, well, I have a great working
relationship with the president, the new

975
01:21:42,239 --> 01:21:47,440
president. So, Bill Conway, who works at
DCW as the new president, and I they

976
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:51,760
passed him
>> was able to hang out with him for 10:30

977
01:21:49,440 --> 01:21:55,440
at night on the first night of the fair.
Um, I think a resolution would be great

978
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:58,560
if it's done in conjunction with the
fair board because I think that they

979
01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:01,199
should be a part of that and
>> of course

980
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:07,480
» and so if you want to work with them on
that then sounds sounds great.

981
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:07,480
» Fantastic. Thank you very much.

982
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:17,480
» Okay. Um, anybody else who wishes to
address us on further to the floor?

983
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:24,840
» Okay. Well, then give it back to Rich.
Move to adjourn.

984
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:30,719
» It's back.
>> I need a second.