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» All right. Well, welcome everyone. If

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you could please rise and join us in the

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pledge of allegiance.

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I aliance to the flag of the United

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States of America and to the republic

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for it stands one nation under God

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indivisible with liberty and justice for

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right welcome everyone thanks for

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joining us tonight and Mr. Campbell, let

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the record reflect that all three

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trustees are present. Uh, do you have

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any correspondence tonight, Mr.

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Campbell?

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» All right. Thank you, sir. No

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proclamations. And first, uh, line of

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business, uh, we'll turn it over to our

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fire chief for a couple new hires. Uh,

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Chief Clemens, sir, throw the floor to

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» Uh, thank you, Mr. Dills. Uh, tonight,

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just want to make a couple comments. Uh,

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the two individuals that I'm going to be

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presenting to you this evening, uh, have

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both been working for the fire

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department for the last three to four

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months on a seasonal part-time basis. Uh

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it's a way for us to try to recruit u

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individuals that don't have all the

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certifications that they need uh to be

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hired full-time but are working towards

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that. Both of those individuals have

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taken the opportunity that was given to

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them here this summer and taken full

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advantage of it. Uh and I'm super

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thrilled to uh introduce both of them

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here this evening. So with that being

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said, if I could have Brendan Riley

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please come up.

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So, I'd like to introduce and recommend

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Mr. Brendan Riley for consideration for

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the position of full-time firefighter

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EMT. Brennan grew up in the Milford area

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and is a 2021 high school graduate of

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Summit Country Day. After high school,

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he attended the University of Kentucky

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where he earned his bachelor's degree in

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business management in 2025.

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firefighter and EMT certifications

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through Cincinnati State. He is

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currently attending Butler Tech, working

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towards his paramedic certification,

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which will he will obtain next year.

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Brennan enjoys golfing and fishing in

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his free time. He successfully completed

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all aspects of the hiring process,

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including a background, polygraph,

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psychological evaluation. I would

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recommend a conditional offer of

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employment to Mr. Riley is a full-time

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firefighter EMT at a rate of pay

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consistent with step one of the

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collective barting agreement effective

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» Fantastic. Thank you, Chief. And uh

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Brennon, welcome. Welcome tonight. So,

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part-time program. I assume you got a

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fair amount of family with you, right?

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» Well, floor floor is yours, brother. Go

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and call them out, please. Uh, my dad

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girlfriend Kitty, Aunt Joy, cousin Ryan,

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» I I have a feeling that when we uh

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approve you and you're done tonight, I

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have a feeling about 75% of this crowd

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is going to be leaving us tonight. So,

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the uh the uh uh Mr. Becker, anything

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for Mr. Riley? Well, I was just thinking

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the reason traffic was light getting

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here. Everybody's here. [laughter]

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» Hey, did I did I hear Northern Kentucky

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University? Did I

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» UK? University of Kentucky.

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business management degree.

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» Okay. By mine went to NKU, I think what

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he said. That's where I got my degree.

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That was many decades ago. But hey,

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anyway, just uh want to thank you for uh

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being part of Union Township and uh

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we're looking forward to getting you

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started. That's all chairman.

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» Mr. Luke, sir. Uh, hey, it's uh really

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exciting to have you here with all your

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family. Um, I I want to ask, I mean, I

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think it's so invigorating seeing you

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come join our team here and and serve to

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the community. Is there anything that

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you think we should be doing better to

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attract young talent? Um, any any any of

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your classmates, that type of dynamic?

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What was your call to service? Putting

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you on the spot, but you don't need to

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be on, but looks like you can handle the

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stage well.

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I don't think you guys have to do

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anything better. Um, I just think the

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it's kind of tough right now with with

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EMTs and then the medics. I just think

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the fire service in general is tough to

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get EMTs on when most departments are

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medic medics only. So, um, I don't think

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the way you guys run it can't be

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improved. But um no, I I got this is so

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attractive to me with a lot of veterans

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in my family. Um just wanted to do

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something for the community and people

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in that community,

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» Military and and and uh

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» Police and and just military veterans.

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» So that is just the call call to serve.

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» Yes, sir.

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» I love that. Well, I'm sure I know

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you're doing them proud. So, thank you.

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» Thank you.

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» And then Brennan, uh you could If you

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look behind you, all these firefighters

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are here for for you and the other

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gentlemen after you. So, pretty cool.

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They show up. It's it's it's good

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camaraderie here. So, um but good. I'm

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glad you're here. [laughter] And uh

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gentlemen, I'll entertain a motion for

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the approval of the hire route to the

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position of firefighter EMT Step One

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effective date September 28th, 2026 at 7

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a.m. at a rate pay consistent with the

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collective baron agreement pending

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successful completion of medical and

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» So move.

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» Second.

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» Mr. Campbell. Roll call.

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» Mr. Becker.

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» Mr. Lo.

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» Mr. Gills.

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» All right. Congratulations, Bren.

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» Make sure you

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congratulations. Welcome.

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» All right, next up we got uh same stick

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with our fire department is uh Trevor

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» Come on up here, Trevor. Perfect.

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All right. And chief, same thing. I'll

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throw the floor to you, sir.

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» Thank Mr. Dills. Uh so here in front of

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me is Mr. Trevor Muchmore. Uh Trevor is

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uh introduced as a consideration for the

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position of full-time firefighter EMT.

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Trevor is a 2025 graduate of Wyoming

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High School. While still enrolled in

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high school, Trevor pursued his

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firefighter and EMT certification which

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he which he obtained shortly after high

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school graduation.

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working for the city of Wyoming as well

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as Lachland Fire Department. He is

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currently attending Cincinnati State

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working towards his paramedic

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certification as well as an associates

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degree in fire science which he will

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obtain next year. Trevor has

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successfully completed all aspects of

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the hiring process including

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and psychological evaluation. I would

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recommend a conditional offer of

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employment to Mr. much more as a

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full-time firefighter EMT at a rate of

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pay consistent with step one of the

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collective bargaining agreement

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effective September 29th, 2026 at 7 a.m.

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pending successful completion of a

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» Thank you, Chief Trevor. Welcome. You uh

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same thing. Got your family here?

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» Yeah, please go ahead.

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» My uh my mom Jamie, my grandma Barbara,

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my stepdad Tony, and my step brother

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» I love it. I love it. It's fantastic. Um

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and then uh Mr. Becker, I'm going to

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throw the floor to you, sir. Go ahead.

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» Yeah, I heard So, I heard Wyoming,

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Lachland. You live on that side of town?

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» Uh, yeah, I live in Wyoming.

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» Okay. Plan to move a little closer

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» All right. Well, we'll look forward to

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having you as a resident uh in Union

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Township. That'd be great.

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» Yes, sir.

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» Welcome,

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Chairman.

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» Mr. Luke,

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» Mr. Becker, you got an open uh bedroom

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at the house for him?

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» Uh, I might be able to work out a rental

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arrangement.

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» [laughter]

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» We're again thr th thrilled to have you.

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in the community especially uh if you've

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ever been on the receiving end of of

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needing aid uh from you know our our

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safety services, our fire, our EMS. Uh

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so, you know, again, same same

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perspective. What's what's your call to

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service? uh what what kind of inspired

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you to [clears throat] to I'd say push

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against some of the the grain of where

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maybe some of your peers are going

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because it's just such a high calling to

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to serve others. But what's your call?

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» So um in high school I joined uh the

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Wyoming Fire Department as a cadet. I

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fell in love with it. I wanted more. So

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I joined the lock and fire department as

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a cadet also to get more experience and

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then ultimately I found this place to

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give me better experience in a future in

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career.

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» Wonderful because of that early

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engagement through uh like a high school

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youth program.

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» Yes, sir.

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» Okay, that's great. Well, hey, really

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really appreciate Trevor. Uh team's

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looking forward to having you sir. Thank

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you.

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» All right, Trevor, the uh let's get us

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started. The uh gentleman, I entertain a

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motion for the hire of Trevor Muchmore

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to the position of firefighter EMT Step

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One effective uh September 29th, 2026 at

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7 a.m. at a rate pay consistent with the

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collective bargain agreement pending

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successful completion of medical and

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physical examination.

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» So moved.

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» Second, Mr. Campbell. Roll call.

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» Mr. Becker,

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» Yes.

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» Mr. Lo,

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» Yes.

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» Mr. Gills,

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» Yes. Motion carries.

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» Congratulations,

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[applause]

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Welcome.

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Jeez.

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Let the room clear up for a minute.

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All right. And then uh by the way,

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there's already a handful. If you if you

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like public comments tonight, there's

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public comment cards back there. Now, if

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you're here to talk about the zoning

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case tonight, I would suggest doing that

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separately, but um and then in a minute,

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we'll come by and collect those cards

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from you. And then, uh gentlemen, uh I

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wanted to uh sorry to spring something

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on you, but I wanted to talk about it

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before public comments in case anybody

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wanted to come and talk about it. was um

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uh we're not going to have open

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conversation right now about it, but I

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wanted to see your thoughts on y'all's

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schedule before the next October

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business meeting. Uh the subject of

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flock cameras has come up quite a bit.

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And so I've done some research and I

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don't recall any government entity

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anywhere in the tri-state that has done

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a um work in session like a uh town hall

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style meeting. And so I was thinking of

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let's let's schedule a um uh work in

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session town hall style meeting and uh

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for I'm thinking as far as the

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parameters the rules because I don't I

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don't want to be there all night but I

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do want folks to have a say is um 90

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minutes and maybe the first 10 20

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minutes let's give our police department

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the floor have the chief give a

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presentation and then after that open it

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up for five minutes of conversation each

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and then uh cap it off at an hour.

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That'll leave us about 10 15 minutes at

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the end to have some discussion. But I

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think it'd be neat. No other government

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entity has has done this as far as

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having they've either made a decision

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yes or no. We're going to keep them uh

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whether or not what direction we're

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going to take. But I think it would be

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neat if we did a work in session town

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hall style meeting and uh just let folks

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get up to the mic and talk and say

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whether they're for against them and and

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then we can make a decision on the

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future. So wanted to see if there's a

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date before the next October meeting

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that works. um anything or any dates

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that don't work at all?

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» Uh [clears throat]

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I've got some color uh around that

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concept. Um I was really actually hoping

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that we would have an agenda on

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tonight's meeting just to solicit public

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comment and feedback on the flop

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cameras. So hopefully we can hear that

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at public comment tonight. But I really

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wanted the township because to me it's

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nice to have what you're recommending.

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Uh you want to do a town hall style on

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it, but

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That's a frankly I'd like to just get it

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on the agenda as new business and be

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soliciting the feedback and I guess my

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point there is unfortunately it's not

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advertised and already on the agenda for

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tonight. I would like us to I guess move

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faster on that. But um going forward to

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October um I would almost welcome the

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same thing the regular scheduled meeting

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night of October. Let's put it out

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there, see how much community feedback

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wants to come and be part of that. And

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then determine if it's a reason to have

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a followup a week later,

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whatever it may be for continued

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conversation, more of a forum if if that

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if that need is made. Otherwise, um you

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know, my perspective on it too is uh if

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community getting more information

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uh through

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is is needed. Um, I'm I'm supportive of

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having some type of citizen-led

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committee uh that can become a liaison

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with the flock vendor and receive some

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information uh and provide information

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back. So, um I think that's what

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communities across the the state or

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country are are trying to have

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engagement on. So, not opposed to a town

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hall. I just think activity and traction

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matter. So what I would actually ask for

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is that we just be supportive of

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standing up a citizen led committee

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if it's not an overburdensome action to

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the staff. I mean two hours a week or

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something to that effect. I don't know

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what your thoughts are.

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» I think I want to have a uh town hall

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style meeting that's a working session

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and I would like to put it out there for

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two weeks or so. Miss R can or heir can

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uh put it out there for two, three weeks

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before our next October meeting and let

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folks just come up and talk. Uh no other

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government entity that I know of has

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done it. And so I'd like to keep it

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separate from our actual scheduled

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business meeting and make that specific

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night because I I think there would be a

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lot of people that show up and so I

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think uh it'd be nice to just solicit

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feedback and we're all about community

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engagements. I just like to hear what

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the residents want us to do as far as

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that direction. Um Mr. Becker, what's

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your thoughts? I I do like the idea of

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the town hall meeting. I I would also

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request that a representative from Flock

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be at that meeting or at least be

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invited. Give them the opportunity to

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attend. So, you know, their schedule

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would would be a factor. I don't know

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how free they are and can dispatch

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people. I think their headquarters is in

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Louisville, I want to say. So,

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fortunately, it's not all that far away.

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» I thought it was Georgia. Maybe I'm

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wrong.

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» Maybe there's a district office in

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Louisville. Chief Race, where where's

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our office?

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» We have our rep is based out of

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Louisville. So,

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» That's what I'm thinking.

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» Okay.

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» Okay.

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» Is there is there a date? Uh we can I'm

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thinking six o'clock as well. And the

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reason why is uh in case anyone wants to

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talk about flock tonight, I would say,

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hey, give us your thoughts, but probably

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come back again at the town hall. Uh but

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um any any dates that that don't work?

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Um I'd like to do it before our next

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October meeting. So, we we got a month

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notice or we have a whole month to work

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with, I should say. But, I'd like to

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give um like to give Miss Miss R the uh

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um at least a week to put it out there

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hard

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so we can have make sure what's your

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what's your thoughts, Mr. Logan? Any

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dates that do or don't work?

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Um,

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yeah. I meant don't have my

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calendar, my other calendar in front of

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me right at the moment to give you

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dates, but uh would you target like a

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Monday night?

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» Would that be a benefit?

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» Monday, Tuesday.

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» I got a lot of travel with with work

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right now. So, that's what I'm looking

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at. Like literally the next three weeks

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are travel.

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» Monday it is. Is there a Monday? Is you

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you oppose the Monday?

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» I can usually make about any evening

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work.

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So your answer is no. I don't I don't

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have any opposition to

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Monday. Uh I can tell you

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» I don't know the 21st. Uh looks good.

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28th. Uh I can do the 28th.

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» We have to Can we narrow down the 21st

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or 28th? I'd like to balance the

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schedule against my work schedule I

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carry in with me tonight.

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» Okay. So We're both good with those. And

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then uh um uh Mr. Wright, whatever one

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Mr. Lo picks, that's that's what we'll

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do. And then uh let's set it for 6 PM on

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that night. Is that what we think?

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» That that Yes, we just have to have time

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to get the uh meeting notice out. I

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think that we would have the ample time

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to

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» To properly notice that meeting on our

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website, Facebook, all of those things.

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» M Mr. Chairman, I I I think we should

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consider making a seven seven o'clock

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meeting start because I think more

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people could get here. It's easier for

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them at seven since it's not a regular

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business meeting where we could be going

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late.

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» Seven might be a better start time.

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» Let's do that then. Uh

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» And you would just like me to coordinate

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with

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» Yeah. So, we'll pick either one. Uh uh

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Miss Are you okay with either one of

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those dates? I give you enough time to

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market it. And then what we'll do is uh

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Oh, that's fine. Seven o'clock is fine.

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I'd like to uh give the This is how I

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was thinking in my brain. you both think

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is uh giving the floor to Chief Ree and

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uh letting him, you know, do his thing

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and then uh have the police department

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do their thing and then uh we can have

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the thing is I want to give at least an

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hour to the floor and each person gets,

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you know, I want to cap it off of five

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minutes because I I want everybody to

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get a chance to talk. I don't want to be

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all night either. And then the last

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10ish minutes, 15 minutes, you us three

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can deliberate and then and then call it

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a night. So, I'm thinking an hour. I'm

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thinking 90 minutes. at out a cap. Does

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that see fair and reasonable?

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» Yeah.

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» Okay. Five minutes public participation

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each. That's it. And then uh Okay, cool.

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Uh and then Mr.

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We'll push it out. But I think it'll be

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neat. We're the only government body I

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think that's done, you know, a public uh

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meeting like that and uh I think it'll

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be a good thing. So,

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» And Chief Reese, if you can reach out to

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the representative in in Louisville and

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see if he's available either of those

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nights or they if they can dispatch

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somebody, that' be great. Do do we have

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a targeted outcome out of the town hall

544
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,240
that we think?

545
00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:26,720
» Yeah, I'd like to get feedback and if

546
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,960
and if after after we get feedback then

547
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,159
uh um then we'll make a decision as far

548
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,480
as the future of what we're going to do

549
00:25:30,159 --> 00:25:35,679
with flock and and um license plate

550
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:37,440
readers in the future. So yeah.

551
00:25:35,679 --> 00:25:39,440
» Okay.

552
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:42,559
any apprehension you guys have for

553
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:45,679
having a citizen-led committee on it as

554
00:25:42,559 --> 00:25:47,919
well to engage in policies back best

555
00:25:45,679 --> 00:25:49,679
practices utilization and work with

556
00:25:47,919 --> 00:25:51,679
flock directly.

557
00:25:49,679 --> 00:25:53,760
» Yeah, I'm going to defer to Chief Ree on

558
00:25:51,679 --> 00:25:54,960
that, but I don't have a problem at my

559
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,039
first glance. I don't have a I don't

560
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,840
have a problem. I mean, Mr. Becker

561
00:25:57,039 --> 00:25:59,279
» I I don't

562
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,520
» I don't have a problem with that either.

563
00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:04,320
Maybe that's something we we uh we're

564
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,279
trying to make part of the of the U town

565
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,480
hall meeting.

566
00:26:05,279 --> 00:26:08,480
» Perfect. But then maybe put that

567
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,159
together afterwards depending on how the

568
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,039
discussions go, what the public wants.

569
00:26:10,159 --> 00:26:12,400
» Perfect.

570
00:26:11,039 --> 00:26:13,679
» Okay, cool. Okay, thanks guys.

571
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,440
Appreciate you being on board with that.

572
00:26:13,679 --> 00:26:17,600
» The uh Yes, please.

573
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:20,880
» Yeah, I'll just I'll connect with you,

574
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:23,120
sir. We'll work that out and I'll send a

575
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,480
note out regarding the actual date and

576
00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:26,000
time and we'll get it.

577
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:29,039
» Yeah, because the top of my head is

578
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,640
Mondays are are typically better there.

579
00:26:29,039 --> 00:26:32,159
But yeah, I'll connect with you.

580
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,440
» Perfect. So, so if anybody wants to talk

581
00:26:32,159 --> 00:26:35,200
about flock tonight, you're more than

582
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,880
welcome to, but I would suggest waiting

583
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,320
for one of those two dates. Uh, and then

584
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,320
we'll we'll all get it out. But, uh, all

585
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:43,520
right. Public comments. All right. Let's

586
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,880
see here. We've got

587
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,559
Well, looks like there's some flooding

588
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,919
on Glendale. All right. So, we'll talk.

589
00:26:46,559 --> 00:26:50,159
Let's do this first one first. We do

590
00:26:47,919 --> 00:26:51,440
this one. Uh, uh, Miss Jane Phelps, are

591
00:26:50,159 --> 00:26:52,720
you here?

592
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,720
» All right. Come on up, miss. Please.

593
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,720
Yes.

594
00:26:56,559 --> 00:26:58,960
» Please. Yeah. Yeah. Come on up. Yeah.

595
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,640
Township.

596
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,760
» Oh, it's okay. Oh, hold on one second.

597
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,520
You just want to state your name and

598
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:06,799
address for the record and

599
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,840
» Jane Phelps. I'm at 4284 Solder Lane.

600
00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:08,400
» You have five minutes. The floor is

601
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,880
yours, please.

602
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:13,360
» Sure. Um, I summarize what I have sent

603
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,520
now to the BFW of Ohio as well as the

604
00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:17,600
Missouri VFW Hall

605
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,840
» Center because my neighbors and I have

606
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:22,320
had enough of the BFW Hall bar across

607
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:24,400
our street. I'm right across the street,

608
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:27,360
my husband and I, and it's just been

609
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:30,400
awful. These are the small sample of

610
00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:32,559
M80s that were let off on Memorial Day

611
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:35,760
weekend and it's just continued one one

612
00:27:32,559 --> 00:27:38,159
episode of issues versus another. Um,

613
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:40,880
Sergeant Danielle Smith has been

614
00:27:38,159 --> 00:27:44,159
assigned to the case. Appreciate that.

615
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:46,480
Um, but we're still not getting enough

616
00:27:44,159 --> 00:27:49,679
uh issues addressed here. I've

617
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:51,919
recommended a camera with the speed sign

618
00:27:49,679 --> 00:27:54,080
or speed bar like I used to have in my

619
00:27:51,919 --> 00:27:55,840
old neighborhood um to try and address

620
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,159
some of the eating on the very narrow

621
00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:00,960
street um when they're drinking drunk

622
00:27:58,159 --> 00:28:02,880
and they're just out of control. There's

623
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,200
been pot smoking in front of the

624
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,760
building that uh almost on a nightly

625
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,600
basis that's starting to curve off now

626
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,440
thankfully because we're outside a lot.

627
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:14,320
I do a lot of yard work. We have two

628
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,919
dogs, rescue dogs. So it's just one

629
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,760
thing after another. They'll be in the

630
00:28:15,919 --> 00:28:20,080
parking lot till late at night, early in

631
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:22,159
the morning I should say. Like last week

632
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:24,159
they were there and woke me up at

633
00:28:22,159 --> 00:28:26,320
quarter till 4 in the morning. I had to

634
00:28:24,159 --> 00:28:28,240
call the police. His car alarm was going

635
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:33,279
off. He has this woman pressed against

636
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:36,159
his vehicle um enjoying himself and it's

637
00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:37,120
like this is Oh yeah, you have not seen

638
00:28:36,159 --> 00:28:39,200
what we've seen.

639
00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:40,799
» I just want to make I I think I did hear

640
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,919
what I thought I heard you say.

641
00:28:40,799 --> 00:28:45,600
» I did hear it. Uh that's not even I

642
00:28:43,919 --> 00:28:45,919
could go into more stories that we've

643
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,520
seen.

644
00:28:45,919 --> 00:28:50,720
» It sounds like police work.

645
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:53,520
» Yes, it does. Believe me, it is. Um, and

646
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:55,600
so I'm just summarizing everything, but

647
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,120
I have sent off letters as of this past

648
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,279
weekend. My husband and I did along with

649
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:01,520
our neighbors. There's a sign affidavit

650
00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:03,600
in here that I've also turned in to um,

651
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,039
Sergeant Smith

652
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,720
um, from our neighbors over that

653
00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:09,440
Memorial Day weekend when it was

654
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:11,200
horrible um, all the way down on Minkx.

655
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,520
They could hear them. They thought bombs

656
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,840
were going off. Uh, one of the gentlemen

657
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:19,279
who was part of that, he apparently,

658
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:21,520
according to um, Sergeant Smith, has

659
00:29:19,279 --> 00:29:23,440
been um, incarcerated about a month

660
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,799
after that situation. I didn't ask what

661
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,559
because I don't care. He's in jail.

662
00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:29,440
That's what I count. That's what matters

663
00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:31,440
to me. But something needs to be

664
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,279
addressed when it's closing time and why

665
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:36,080
it's closing time till 2 am on a

666
00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:38,640
workday. I don't understand that. If

667
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,559
it's a VFW hall, it should act as a VFW

668
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:43,039
hall. And I also have veterans in my

669
00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:45,679
family as well as policemen. The Bla

670
00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:48,240
family, the Crumman family, the Ror

671
00:29:45,679 --> 00:29:50,799
family, all the way out to Kentucky. My

672
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:53,840
grandfather was a Cincinnati policeman

673
00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:56,880
plus the service in my family, retired

674
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:59,520
veteran. And it's ridiculous. They're a

675
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,360
disgrace to the veterans as far as I'm

676
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,480
concerned and my husband who's also a

677
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:07,760
veteran. So something's got to be done

678
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:09,120
with this place across the street.

679
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,360
So, I'll give you the summary of

680
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,279
information. That's all I have to

681
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,440
» To give you. And we will continue to

682
00:30:13,279 --> 00:30:18,320
call the police whenever this should

683
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:20,000
occur. But as I was concerned also at 5

684
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,799
a.m. when I get up because I have an

685
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:24,799
international company to manage and so

686
00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:28,080
I'm dealing with people in my direct

687
00:30:24,799 --> 00:30:29,600
reports from Turkey, UK, uh, India.

688
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,799
» You want to be on the mic if you want if

689
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,559
you want the cameras to pick you up.

690
00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:34,720
» Yeah, our microphone's not very good.

691
00:30:32,559 --> 00:30:37,200
» Okay. So, I have an international

692
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:39,120
company in my position as a director,

693
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,279
and I have to be up at 5:00 a.m. And as

694
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,559
I have explained to the sergeant, but

695
00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:43,600
she was like, "Well, we can have someone

696
00:30:42,559 --> 00:30:44,559
come back there." I said, "No, I just

697
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,039
want you to get them off of the

698
00:30:44,559 --> 00:30:48,880
property." I'm okay with walking in the

699
00:30:47,039 --> 00:30:51,120
dark. I've walked in the dark all my

700
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:55,360
life with my pets because I'm an early

701
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:57,840
bird due to my job. So, I don't need the

702
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,919
police to take care of me. I need them

703
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:02,159
to deal with the illegal activity going

704
00:30:59,919 --> 00:31:04,559
on across the street.

705
00:31:02,159 --> 00:31:06,399
That's what I want to manage is that

706
00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:09,039
activity.

707
00:31:06,399 --> 00:31:12,000
I'm not afraid in the dark. And I'm not

708
00:31:09,039 --> 00:31:16,000
packing a gun. I could say that either.

709
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:18,880
So, but it's ridiculous. It shouldn't be

710
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:22,159
acting like the nasty ass bar that it

711
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:24,960
is. It shouldn't all of the day and the

712
00:31:22,159 --> 00:31:26,159
night and the morning. It's ridiculous.

713
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,840
That's all I have to say.

714
00:31:26,159 --> 00:31:29,679
» Thank you, Miss Phelps. Chief, are you

715
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,679
aware of all this? Okay, fair enough.

716
00:31:29,679 --> 00:31:32,320
Yeah. Okay. Thank you, Miss Phelps.

717
00:31:31,679 --> 00:31:33,919
Appreciate you bringing that to our

718
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,240
attention. Thank you.

719
00:31:33,919 --> 00:31:40,640
» Yeah.

720
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:42,080
All right. And I got a uh you looks like

721
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,039
you're probably a couple or related.

722
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,799
You're more than welcome to speak

723
00:31:43,039 --> 00:31:48,279
together or separate, but uh is it Hey,

724
00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:48,279
Big. Is that correct?

725
00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:55,080
» Oh, okay. All right. Miss Judy, come on

726
00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:55,080
up, please. Yeah, come on up.

727
00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:00,080
» You're throwing things already.

728
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,360
Miss Judy uh rising, please just state

729
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,080
your name and address for the record for

730
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,720
Mr. Campbell.

731
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,679
» Okay. I'm Judy Rising. I live at 4462

732
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,559
Glendale Drive.

733
00:32:05,679 --> 00:32:08,320
» Miss Judy. And then

734
00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:09,840
» And I'm here about the flooding.

735
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,120
» Yes, ma'am. Five minutes. The floor is

736
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:15,200
yours. Yes, ma'am.

737
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:17,840
» So, I live on the lowest part of

738
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:20,559
Glendale and that's where the drainage

739
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:23,360
system runs. And we've talked to Matt

740
00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:26,240
and Corey and showed them the they did a

741
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:30,399
study in 2009 of the watershed shed

742
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:33,440
area. And so what when they did that

743
00:32:30,399 --> 00:32:36,320
study, they said that none of the

744
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:38,720
ditches should be changed in any way

745
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:41,840
because it comes off of Glen Glenn

746
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:45,440
Willow. It comes down hits with hits

747
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:47,200
Glendale and does a 90 degree turn

748
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:50,000
across the street from my house and then

749
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:52,399
it does a n another 90 degree turn to go

750
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:55,760
down the ditch.

751
00:32:52,399 --> 00:32:58,399
So when they came in and did the um

752
00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:01,039
water new water pipes,

753
00:32:58,399 --> 00:33:02,799
people tended to put in pipes and cover

754
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:06,640
the ditches.

755
00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:09,039
So now I have they have the water

756
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,720
running right down the hill right into

757
00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:12,240
my house.

758
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:16,799
» So

759
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:18,559
because of the study, it's already been

760
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:20,080
known that this should have never

761
00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:22,880
happened. There should have never been a

762
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:24,799
pipe put in there. So I'm just calling

763
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,960
you attention to it now. So it's on

764
00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:29,840
record. [snorts]

765
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:31,440
» Thank you, Mr. Rising. By um I think I

766
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,360
spoke with you too, correct? I think so.

767
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,799
Yeah, on the phone. So, uh, Mr. Wright,

768
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:38,480
are are we good on this?

769
00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:41,519
» Uh, yes, sir. Um, we have, uh, talked to

770
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:43,679
Choice One, who's our engineer. Uh, we

771
00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:46,720
have a proposal. Uh, it's not going to

772
00:33:43,679 --> 00:33:50,559
be cheap. It'll be 167,000 to restudy

773
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:54,320
this. It's complicated.

774
00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:56,399
» Um, there I talked to the contractor

775
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,960
that these good folks actually gave me a

776
00:33:56,399 --> 00:34:01,600
phone number with. Uh, he was with

777
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:05,360
Howell Construction.

778
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:06,880
Um, it appears that a review of aerial

779
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,960
cgraphy

780
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:11,520
sometime between the 2021 aerial

781
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,599
photographs and the 2022 aerial

782
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,440
photographs that the ditch lines were

783
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:18,560
both piped in and then also graded to

784
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:21,520
where there is no ditch line on the side

785
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:23,679
opposite of their street. Okay. And so

786
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,919
those open ditch lines provided, you

787
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:27,280
know, excess capacity for that for that

788
00:34:25,919 --> 00:34:30,240
water to kind of dissipate and then get

789
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:32,159
into a storm structure that we sized

790
00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:34,879
under the road and all of that what's

791
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:38,000
since been piped. Now I know Matt has

792
00:34:34,879 --> 00:34:39,839
already had that TV. Is that correct? Uh

793
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:43,200
so we have those results. I'm waiting to

794
00:34:39,839 --> 00:34:45,599
see those. Uh we also are going to try

795
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:49,440
to work with the county to see if they

796
00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:54,240
can provide us with a drainage analysis

797
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:56,480
uh for how to fix this since um there's

798
00:34:54,240 --> 00:34:56,960
some debate over what caused this.

799
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,440
» Got it.

800
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:01,440
» Um that said, we have we have a proposal

801
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,200
from choice one to study it. My

802
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,800
preference I you know again they're

803
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,440
great engineers. My preference would be

804
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:10,079
have the county look at it. But as I

805
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:12,320
understand it and Matt can stop me. Let

806
00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:14,640
me stop her time. Sorry, Matt can stop

807
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,960
me. And I'm not a storm water engineer.

808
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:19,839
The pipe underneath the road with a

809
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,920
structure has so much capacity, right?

810
00:35:19,839 --> 00:35:24,079
It's sized to, I think, approximately a

811
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:26,720
42 inch round culvert, but it's actually

812
00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:30,079
a it's an elliptical culvert or

813
00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:32,000
whatever. And it does come down to this

814
00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:34,400
90 and it goes into I believe Matt

815
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,400
measured it's a 27 in inside diameter

816
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,160
concrete pipe. Now, we don't know what's

817
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:41,040
downstream from that. All we can see is

818
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,320
the opening. The TV results will tell us

819
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,160
what the approximate size of the pipe

820
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,240
is. So it comes down, it hits an

821
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:49,280
embankment. The road's at an embankment.

822
00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:51,119
Has to make a 90 degree turn. So this

823
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:54,400
pipe here has so much capacity. This

824
00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:56,320
pipe has so much capacity. It without

825
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,880
causing catastrophic damage to people

826
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,960
who are across the street, right?

827
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,720
Ripping all of that out, all of that. Is

828
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,440
there a way to provide overflow or

829
00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:07,200
bypass relief or do we have to go in and

830
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,040
stretch that that pipe all the way

831
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,400
along, rip people's driveways out? We

832
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,839
don't know. We don't know. We have to

833
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:16,000
study that. We need an engineer to tell

834
00:36:11,839 --> 00:36:17,520
us on that. Um my my mind tells me what

835
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,720
I think needs to happen, but I need an

836
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,240
engineer to confirm that.

837
00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:21,920
» But we are actively working on that. We

838
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:24,000
had a great meeting. I think we sat down

839
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:27,440
for hour and a half and I appreciate the

840
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:29,359
plans that you held on to uh and uh

841
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,040
those were very useful. So,

842
00:36:29,359 --> 00:36:34,160
» Thank you, M. Yeah, thank you. Thank

843
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,599
you, Mr. Ris. Appreciate you. Uh, and

844
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,800
Thomas and Jane, I'll leave it up to if

845
00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:38,800
you both want to come together or not.

846
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,960
It's up to you.

847
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,320
Perfect. And then, uh, just state your

848
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,760
all's name and address just for the

849
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,520
record. And then five minutes. The floor

850
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:49,839
is yours, please.

851
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:52,960
» I'm Jane Cammer Havik, 4476 Glenn Willow

852
00:36:49,839 --> 00:36:56,640
Drive. We first brought this. Oh, Tom.

853
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:59,280
» And I'm Thomas Havik and I live 4476

854
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:01,920
Glen Willow Drive.

855
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:05,680
Um, this has been kind of an ongoing

856
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:08,560
issue for many years. And when the

857
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:12,079
township collaborated with the with the

858
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:14,240
county uh on the schoolhouse project

859
00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:17,280
where they

860
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:20,320
schoolhouse had been dirty

861
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:23,040
and it needed repaving, they repaved it.

862
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,560
They put in sidewalks. They put in

863
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:28,480
curbs.

864
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:30,720
And they also put in

865
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:33,839
Matt, you know the term, but to me it's

866
00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:37,520
a retention pipe so that some of the

867
00:37:33,839 --> 00:37:43,119
flood water coming down schoolhouse from

868
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:46,720
from basically old 74 would be held back

869
00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:50,160
so that we we live upstream from the

870
00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:52,160
rising Mrs. Rising and her husband when

871
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:56,640
he was alive. and he and I have been to

872
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:59,119
many meetings with this former boards

873
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:01,440
and uh

874
00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:04,000
former

875
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:06,640
maintenance people. So, we thought that

876
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:08,320
that would help. Instead, I've spoken to

877
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,880
the neighbor Caddy Corner across from

878
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:13,200
the street who's even more upstream and

879
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:15,920
he says he's st and this has been since

880
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:20,079
our meeting with Corey with Mr. Wright,

881
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:22,640
sorry. um that he said he retrieves

882
00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:25,359
unbelievable amounts of garbage. I know

883
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,880
we retrieve garbage from our side. So

884
00:38:25,359 --> 00:38:28,720
somewhere

885
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:32,400
condoms,

886
00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:34,960
uh pop and beer bottles, broken glass,

887
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:38,160
you name it, comes is channeled through.

888
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:41,680
Now in the last rain, which Mr. Wright

889
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:44,000
quantified as a 5,000 year,

890
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:46,880
» That's my guess. It was big. It was a

891
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:48,079
big one. We think it wasn't quite 5,000.

892
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,720
But at any rate,

893
00:38:48,079 --> 00:38:52,640
» Yeah,

894
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:55,200
» Tom, we the channeling next to our house

895
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:57,920
is going pretty well. It cuts through

896
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,599
Mr. Novik's property and he was in on

897
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,359
the original thing. There was something

898
00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:04,400
called the Green Valley Project, which

899
00:39:01,359 --> 00:39:07,280
if any of you want proposed, if anyone

900
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:10,400
wants to talk about Matt, we filled Matt

901
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:14,079
pretty much in on the details of that.

902
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:16,480
And that was rejected by one homeowner

903
00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:19,520
along the creek because it would in

904
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:22,320
necessitate homeowner taxes. And if one

905
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:26,000
person along the creek vetoed it, he did

906
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:28,800
veto it. He no longer lives there. But

907
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:31,680
the bottom line is people like Mrs.

908
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:34,160
Rising can no longer tolerate the flood

909
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:37,119
of water. The house across the street

910
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:41,200
from her is a rent now rental property

911
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:43,760
owned by one of the county officials and

912
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,520
there is some speculation that she

913
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:49,599
without

914
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:53,520
permission from the township put in the

915
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:56,720
blockages the smaller pipes at the two

916
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:59,599
90 degree angles which is

917
00:39:56,720 --> 00:40:04,400
constricting the water. So, we just ask

918
00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:07,119
that this time, somebody please with Mr.

919
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:09,920
Taylor and Mr. Wright's assistance and

920
00:40:07,119 --> 00:40:12,640
your approval, somebody needs to remedy

921
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:15,520
this. We did approach Mr. Dills to begin

922
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:19,200
with, and he was concerned because of

923
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:22,079
the redwood property that's being built

924
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:24,079
there on schoolhouse on the other side

925
00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:27,440
of schoolhouse, the sidewalk side of

926
00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:29,760
schoolhouse. Official officially we're

927
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:33,280
not supposed to get runoff from them

928
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:36,880
according to Mr. Taylor and Mr. Wright.

929
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:39,200
But at this point, who knows? Neither we

930
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:42,160
who have the lowest street, lowest house

931
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:44,560
on Glenn Willow, nor Mrs. Rising, who

932
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:47,760
has the lowest house on Glendale, can

933
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:50,640
afford any more property damage. We've

934
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:53,119
lived there since 1974.

935
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:55,359
Judy, how long have we lived there?

936
00:40:53,119 --> 00:40:58,400
since 1975.

937
00:40:55,359 --> 00:41:00,480
So, we've been good citizens.

938
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:03,520
Some of you may know me from having been

939
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:06,240
in front of this board before on the

940
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:08,400
same thing or as somebody sitting in the

941
00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:10,800
audience as a reporter. I'm no longer

942
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:13,200
reporting, but believe me, if it

943
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,520
necessitates, and I don't like making

944
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:17,520
threats, but if it necessitates going to

945
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:20,640
the press,

946
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:22,400
I've got some ends, and I really don't

947
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:25,119
want to have to do that. But something

948
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:28,800
has to be done to keep the homeowners

949
00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:30,720
safe. We now have all of our children

950
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,640
are grown and have families of their

951
00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:34,880
own. But there are a lot of young

952
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:37,119
couples that have moved in. We've got

953
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:39,520
somebody across the street from us who

954
00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:41,520
has maybe a six-month old baby. The

955
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,520
people behind us have an 11-month old

956
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,680
baby. The people next door to us on the

957
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:48,560
other side of the creek that really

958
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:50,880
suffers because their yard gets cut off.

959
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,640
has a a little girl that'll be three in

960
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:56,880
November and then there's bigger kids

961
00:41:52,640 --> 00:42:00,319
down the street. So, are we gonna wait

962
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:04,960
until something happens like happened in

963
00:42:00,319 --> 00:42:06,720
Miami Township years ago where a child

964
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,520
drowned

965
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:11,760
and Miami Township had to pay a

966
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:14,720
multi-million dollar settlement for the

967
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:16,480
loss of his life. We don't want to see

968
00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:18,400
that happen.

969
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,240
» I appreciate it. We want our property

970
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,960
protected. We want our neighborhood

971
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:25,280
children protected. And certainly Mrs.

972
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:27,119
Rising should not have to have water

973
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,720
coming into her house.

974
00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:31,280
» Thank you for your attention. And we

975
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:34,880
hope to hear back if not from you as

976
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:35,839
individual trustees than from Mr. Taylor

977
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,560
and Mr. Wright.

978
00:42:35,839 --> 00:42:37,839
» Thank you.

979
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,839
» Thank you both very much. Appreciate

980
00:42:37,839 --> 00:42:42,560
you. Yeah. Good job. Thank you.

981
00:42:39,839 --> 00:42:45,119
» And then uh Mr. You're uh right, Miss

982
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:47,200
Taylor. I know you met with all those

983
00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:48,880
neighbors at 5, six o'clock at night on

984
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,400
a Friday night. Appreciate you both very

985
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,920
much uh doing that and hearing hearing

986
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,319
what they said to say. So, appreciate

987
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:56,000
that. Um Okay. Is there anyone else for

988
00:42:54,319 --> 00:42:58,160
public comment tonight? Oh, please come

989
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:01,920
on up, Mr. Dean. Yeah. Or do it. Yeah,

990
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:03,839
please. Yeah, I got you.

991
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,920
» You probably know this by me now.

992
00:43:03,839 --> 00:43:09,280
» I do. I do. I got you. Here you go.

993
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:11,280
Perfect. Perfect.

994
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:13,280
I got you. You got it. You got it in

995
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:16,240
this way.

996
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:18,800
Oh, you got it.

997
00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:21,800
You got it. Good to see you.

998
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,800
All right.

999
00:43:21,839 --> 00:43:24,319
» All right. Mr. Dit, sir, you go ahead.

1000
00:43:23,839 --> 00:43:26,960
You got the floor.

1001
00:43:24,319 --> 00:43:31,040
» Uh, Melvin Dit 3902

1002
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:34,240
Banks Road, Union Township, Ohio.

1003
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:37,440
Okay. I am speaking here tonight because

1004
00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:42,640
on the events I did not see the list of

1005
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:44,240
the 15th of September with the memorial

1006
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:48,079
dedication

1007
00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:50,560
at Union Township Park for

1008
00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:52,400
memorial for the Revolutionary War

1009
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:56,160
soldiers

1010
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:58,160
and patriots. So

1011
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,560
whether I read too fast and just missed

1012
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,240
it,

1013
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:03,680
» We just finalized.

1014
00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:06,000
So that's that's my bad. I that not

1015
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,880
township related, but big deal. Now, I'm

1016
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,280
sorry. I don't want to steal your

1017
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:13,119
thunder. Uh go ahead, Mr. Dwit.

1018
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:15,440
» Um just I would hope that u a lot of

1019
00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:18,400
people would show up. I know the time of

1020
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:21,440
day is not conducive to a lot of people

1021
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:23,119
showing up. 10:30 in the morning right

1022
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,960
there at Veterans Park right there on

1023
00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:28,000
the corner.

1024
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:30,960
and um just would like to see a lot of

1025
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:35,119
people show up for that event. Again,

1026
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:38,800
15th of September, 10:30 in the morning,

1027
00:44:35,119 --> 00:44:40,319
dedication for the Revolutionary War,

1028
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:43,520
soldiers

1029
00:44:40,319 --> 00:44:45,599
and patriots.

1030
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,440
» Mr. Thank you. Appreciate your time.

1031
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:50,480
Thank you very much.

1032
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:53,119
» I I think she said she's got over uh 50

1033
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,520
VIP or reservations or RSVPs already for

1034
00:44:53,119 --> 00:44:56,880
that.

1035
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,920
» You really Yep. Not her, but that's

1036
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,720
right. I remember.

1037
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,240
» Yeah. And uh

1038
00:44:58,720 --> 00:45:02,000
» Because I when he was talking I was like

1039
00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:02,319
I thought I was speaking at that. Okay.

1040
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,079
Yeah.

1041
00:45:02,319 --> 00:45:06,400
» And then uh another really cool thing

1042
00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:07,599
about the event and uh we worked with

1043
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,520
the police department and the fire

1044
00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:12,800
department and I believe they're going

1045
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,520
to have some live fire.

1046
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,240
» Musket fire.

1047
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,280
» Musket fire.

1048
00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:18,000
» It's pretty cool.

1049
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:20,560
» So you'll have reenactment stuff going

1050
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,920
on and uh be a cool event.

1051
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:25,920
» That's awesome. So,

1052
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:30,079
» And this is uh Lisa, was it um a

1053
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:31,440
fundraising effort by um

1054
00:45:30,079 --> 00:45:33,280
» Claremont?

1055
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,119
» Yeah, genealological society. Yes. Thank

1056
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:39,680
you, sir. They raised funds for this

1057
00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:42,800
monument and it's outstanding. So,

1058
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:45,359
» Awesome. Awesome. Thank you, Mr. Dit.

1059
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,240
All right. Next, uh uh is it Keegan

1060
00:45:45,359 --> 00:45:47,520
Slaney?

1061
00:45:46,240 --> 00:45:48,960
» Slaney. All right, sir. Come on up,

1062
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,040
please. And name and address for the

1063
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,920
record. and then uh five minutes. The

1064
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:56,160
floor is yours, sir.

1065
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:58,240
» Sure. I'm Keegan Slaney. I live on 3769

1066
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,839
Sturbridge Way. This is actually Pierce

1067
00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:01,440
Township, but I went to their meeting

1068
00:45:59,839 --> 00:46:04,960
last month and I thought it'd be a good

1069
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:07,200
good idea. So, I know energy aggregation

1070
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:09,119
plans are really functional to decrease

1071
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:11,440
the cost of electricity. Unfortunately,

1072
00:46:09,119 --> 00:46:13,200
it's been increasing quite a bit for

1073
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:16,079
many reasons, including data centers and

1074
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:17,680
their infrastructure. But I see that

1075
00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:19,920
Union Township and Anderson Township

1076
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,920
arguably have the best aggregate plan

1077
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:24,800
right now at about 10 cents per kilowatt

1078
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:27,040
hour. Um, but what's better than that in

1079
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:29,040
the area would be around Dayton. There

1080
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,640
is a coalition of like 20 different

1081
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,319
communities that have one energy

1082
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,480
aggregation plant is about 10% better

1083
00:46:32,319 --> 00:46:37,359
than yours and much better than mine in

1084
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:40,160
Pierce. I was curious if Union Pierce

1085
00:46:37,359 --> 00:46:42,000
Anderson would be considering a council

1086
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,839
just for energy aggregation to decrease

1087
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,599
the cost because the better we could

1088
00:46:43,839 --> 00:46:47,359
combine for purchasing power the better

1089
00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:48,960
we can negotiate cost for American

1090
00:46:47,359 --> 00:46:51,040
people. So I thought that was the idea

1091
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:54,720
and just wanted to bring it up.

1092
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:57,280
» Well said. Um personally

1093
00:46:54,720 --> 00:47:02,480
» Uh on a uh I say an employee with the

1094
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:04,800
township I very much dislike aggregation

1095
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,839
because our call every every year when

1096
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,480
it rolls around

1097
00:47:05,839 --> 00:47:10,240
» Because by law we have to allow we have

1098
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,160
you know the whole opt out program or

1099
00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:14,400
whatever you'll see on I don't follow

1100
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:16,000
Mr. record falls next door 10 times 100

1101
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,680
times more than I ever will. But you'll

1102
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,520
see people on there, oh my gosh, Union

1103
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,720
Township. Oh, the aggregation program. I

1104
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,359
don't I don't want this. I want to opt

1105
00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:26,160
out. By law, we have to because the

1106
00:47:23,359 --> 00:47:28,800
folks voted on it back in 15 or 16, 2015

1107
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:31,200
or 16 or whatever. And so our phones get

1108
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,880
flooded because people are angry at us

1109
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,119
because if we're opting, you know, we're

1110
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:37,359
in the aggregation program. And I hate

1111
00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:38,560
it because of that. And so because our

1112
00:47:37,359 --> 00:47:41,200
phones get flooded because people are

1113
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:43,520
angry at us for it. And so for that

1114
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:45,599
reason, I can't stand it. However, for

1115
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:48,160
the cost savings, I absolutely love it.

1116
00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:49,680
I just wish I don't know how to educate.

1117
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,359
We try to put it out in our newsletter.

1118
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,800
We try to do it all to educate folks.

1119
00:47:51,359 --> 00:47:54,480
Listen, we we have to do this. Like,

1120
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,240
it's a law. Like, unless you all want us

1121
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,160
to to vote on it again, there's nothing

1122
00:47:56,240 --> 00:48:00,240
we can do about it. But I'm all about

1123
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:02,079
partnering with other townships to to to

1124
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:04,800
save the folks more cost savings.

1125
00:48:02,079 --> 00:48:07,119
Absolutely. Um, so I got I got your

1126
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:09,200
information and then uh I'll have uh Mr.

1127
00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:11,280
Wright reach out to you and and I'm all

1128
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,119
about it. good job on the homework of up

1129
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,640
in Dayton. I didn't know that. So

1130
00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:15,599
» Yeah, I went to Pierce and they actually

1131
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,800
said reach out to my state

1132
00:48:15,599 --> 00:48:17,839
representatives because he did not think

1133
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,359
they could merge. He's like that's a

1134
00:48:17,839 --> 00:48:21,200
great idea. We could reach out to union

1135
00:48:19,359 --> 00:48:23,440
if it was allowed but then I started

1136
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,839
researching it more because Freeman had

1137
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,599
he was fairly like he he's excited about

1138
00:48:25,839 --> 00:48:28,800
the idea and then he was like we can't

1139
00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:29,599
really do it but I figured out a

1140
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,599
different group did. So

1141
00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:32,800
» Mr. Slain well done. Good job. So yeah,

1142
00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:34,559
we'll definitely be in touch with you

1143
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,400
and and seriously good job on your

1144
00:48:34,559 --> 00:48:38,720
homework as well by the way. Fantastic.

1145
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:41,440
Go ahead please. So le leveraging

1146
00:48:38,720 --> 00:48:42,720
leveraging our buying power really the

1147
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,839
main thing you're getting at. Yeah,

1148
00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:47,040
» We do have uh actual examples of doing

1149
00:48:45,839 --> 00:48:48,559
that here in the township when it comes

1150
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:51,119
to repaving the roads.

1151
00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:52,640
» Uh we're able to partner with the county

1152
00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:54,960
and leverage the buying power with the

1153
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,720
county and be able to pave more roads. I

1154
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,480
mean this board by working together and

1155
00:48:56,720 --> 00:49:01,599
doing that took it from on average about

1156
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:04,960
a mile a year to 10 miles

1157
00:49:01,599 --> 00:49:06,559
» Uh what last year the year before. So um

1158
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,000
that's the same concept and you're

1159
00:49:06,559 --> 00:49:10,559
absolutely right in the aggregation

1160
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:13,200
Corey does the council of local does the

1161
00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:15,520
council of local governments um weed

1162
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:19,359
into also the aggregation program that

1163
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:20,319
like bu that deeders with with the is it

1164
00:49:19,359 --> 00:49:21,599
dery

1165
00:49:20,319 --> 00:49:23,599
» How do they actually do their their

1166
00:49:21,599 --> 00:49:24,079
aggregation across the jurisdictional

1167
00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:26,079
lines

1168
00:49:24,079 --> 00:49:28,240
» So that would be I'd have to reach out

1169
00:49:26,079 --> 00:49:30,880
to OKI to see if that's something they

1170
00:49:28,240 --> 00:49:32,640
could tread into um one of my first

1171
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,079
calls will be to energy alliances who

1172
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,720
manages our program and they actually

1173
00:49:34,079 --> 00:49:39,520
manage most of the programs around here.

1174
00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:41,359
And so, um,

1175
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:43,440
I think, you know, it's worth exploring

1176
00:49:41,359 --> 00:49:44,240
for sure.

1177
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,520
» I just don't know.

1178
00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:48,480
» Do you do you have any black and white

1179
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,760
data on the fact of jurisdictions not

1180
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,680
getting the benefit of that leverage

1181
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:54,000
buying power because it's likely

1182
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,920
» It's likely being

1183
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:58,720
accomplished through the energy

1184
00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:00,240
aggregator, but it's not explicitly like

1185
00:49:58,720 --> 00:50:01,359
Union Townships working with Pierce

1186
00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:03,119
Township,

1187
00:50:01,359 --> 00:50:05,760
» Right? I I guess what I know is there's

1188
00:50:03,119 --> 00:50:07,440
a technical council in Dayton that

1189
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,319
combines even across county lines.

1190
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,680
That's why I mentioned Anderson

1191
00:50:08,319 --> 00:50:11,520
Township. You could add in New Town or

1192
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,599
anything else. I do not know any

1193
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,839
examples where the aggregate like bulks

1194
00:50:13,599 --> 00:50:18,960
up and it gets a worse deal. However,

1195
00:50:15,839 --> 00:50:20,720
right now with how energy costs are kind

1196
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:23,359
of skyrocketing in the past fiveish

1197
00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:25,680
years. I know that the 10% the number

1198
00:50:23,359 --> 00:50:26,960
that I mentioned before it is slightly

1199
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,960
different because you guys end in

1200
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:31,599
December of 27 and I think they ended in

1201
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:33,920
December of 26. So that could be

1202
00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:36,079
different by what they expect the cost

1203
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,599
of energy to be over time. That's why

1204
00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:39,119
like in the past didn't we get longer

1205
00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:41,440
deals with energy and now we're getting

1206
00:50:39,119 --> 00:50:44,160
say 18 months like in compared to

1207
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:46,559
multiple year like four or five years.

1208
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:49,040
So I don't have the research on that at

1209
00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:51,119
the moment I guess to be point blank but

1210
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,920
I do know that that example seems to be

1211
00:50:51,119 --> 00:50:53,920
better than ours.

1212
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,839
» Okay. And if you don't mind me asking

1213
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,280
you may you started off your point by

1214
00:50:55,839 --> 00:50:59,119
talking about data centers being a

1215
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:02,160
reason for driving energy prices.

1216
00:50:59,119 --> 00:51:03,200
» Right. Right. Are you are you just

1217
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,960
purely

1218
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,640
» I guess it's speculative. I would say

1219
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:09,200
that's I would say that's speculative

1220
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:11,680
based on the fact that I know in Ohio

1221
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:13,599
we're the seventh most amount of data

1222
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,280
centers in the country. I know we keep

1223
00:51:13,599 --> 00:51:17,920
on having more of them. Say Brown,

1224
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:19,200
Adams, Pike, Washington counties, all of

1225
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:22,079
them have had data centers come in in

1226
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:24,880
the past year. I'm aware that they have

1227
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:27,839
um a need for it. It's a supply demand

1228
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:29,440
issue I would assume. So I kind of just

1229
00:51:27,839 --> 00:51:31,119
put that together and assume that's part

1230
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,480
of why energy prices are going up. I

1231
00:51:31,119 --> 00:51:35,760
don't really have like the data to

1232
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:38,400
support that right with me or anything.

1233
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:40,079
» I'm just just curious to to understand

1234
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,440
the perspective that you're sharing

1235
00:51:40,079 --> 00:51:42,640
fully. So

1236
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,599
» Yeah, thank you.

1237
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,359
» Of course.

1238
00:51:43,599 --> 00:51:47,839
» Appreciate you. Thank you, Mr. Lane.

1239
00:51:45,359 --> 00:51:50,960
» The uh Okay. Uh Mr. Nick Reese, come on

1240
00:51:47,839 --> 00:51:52,559
up, sir.

1241
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,760
» Sir, then name and address for the

1242
00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:54,400
record in five minutes. The floor is

1243
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,240
yours, sir. Please.

1244
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,920
» Appreciate it, Nick. Uh Nicholas Reese,

1245
00:51:56,240 --> 00:51:58,480
4249 Illiam Avenue.

1246
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,960
» Yeah, please.

1247
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:02,400
» Uh I appreciate uh the town hall. Um I

1248
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,640
came here to speak on flock and I

1249
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,240
appreciate that recommendation. That is

1250
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,559
the best thing ever. I love it when

1251
00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:09,200
government takes input from so thank you

1252
00:52:08,559 --> 00:52:09,520
very much.

1253
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:10,960
» Sure.

1254
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:13,599
» Uh I'll make it brief since we're doing

1255
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:16,319
that. Um the first thing is um my

1256
00:52:13,599 --> 00:52:18,319
ideology is I'm right. I'm a Republican.

1257
00:52:16,319 --> 00:52:21,520
I grew up learning about small

1258
00:52:18,319 --> 00:52:23,599
government, Republican values. Um and

1259
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,880
this county kind of leans right. So,

1260
00:52:23,599 --> 00:52:26,400
that's kind of where I want to go with

1261
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:29,200
that. First of all, it doesn't really

1262
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:31,839
align with my Republican values. Um, the

1263
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:35,680
second point is, um, I want to thank the

1264
00:52:31,839 --> 00:52:37,920
chief um, for creating such a open

1265
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:40,160
department. I was able to get multiple

1266
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:43,040
records requests. Um, your people are

1267
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:44,960
very professional, upstanding, great

1268
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:48,160
police officers. Lieutenant Blankenship

1269
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:51,839
has been fabulous. Fabulous.

1270
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:54,240
Um, my next thing is with the destroyed

1271
00:52:51,839 --> 00:52:56,319
cameras that have been in our township

1272
00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:58,480
and we weren't able to get a conviction

1273
00:52:56,319 --> 00:53:00,716
with those, does that not speak to the

1274
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:02,800
community not wanting those

1275
00:53:00,716 --> 00:53:05,680
[clears throat] in the public? So, that

1276
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:07,200
be my first point. My second point is if

1277
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,119
we can look at this through the lens of

1278
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,720
Chichrid versus the United States was

1279
00:53:09,119 --> 00:53:15,760
just a Supreme Court case that was just

1280
00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:18,960
decided in May. Um and that dealt with

1281
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:22,400
geoffence warrants and geoence warrants

1282
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:25,040
being a mass net and a bunch of innocent

1283
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,720
people getting caught in that net. So

1284
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:29,280
just a couple things to think about

1285
00:53:26,720 --> 00:53:31,119
there. feels like the jury has already

1286
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:33,839
decided that we're not going to force

1287
00:53:31,119 --> 00:53:37,119
the flock and then chitchat versus the

1288
00:53:33,839 --> 00:53:38,880
United States. Also, the Ohio House has

1289
00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:41,680
a bill in there right now dealing with

1290
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:43,920
flock cameras. Um, and that is going to

1291
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,920
be up to the individual cities,

1292
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,359
townships, citizens to vote on them. Who

1293
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,880
knows if it gets through or not? We all

1294
00:53:47,359 --> 00:53:50,559
know how the House works, but just

1295
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,440
throwing that out there. I appreciate

1296
00:53:50,559 --> 00:53:52,800
you guys' time.

1297
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,440
» Oh, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Reese.

1298
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,559
Appreciate you,

1299
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:57,359
» Chair. I'm sorry. Yeah, M Reese. No,

1300
00:53:56,559 --> 00:53:58,800
actually question for

1301
00:53:57,359 --> 00:53:59,760
» Oh, never never mind. I thought you got

1302
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,440
a question. So, you're good.

1303
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:04,000
» Well, yeah, I got a question for him.

1304
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:06,480
» The gentleman brought up the flock

1305
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:10,400
camera that was destroyed.

1306
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:12,960
I understand a grand jury

1307
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:15,839
uh refused to hand out an indictment.

1308
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:18,800
So, that was a felony charge.

1309
00:54:15,839 --> 00:54:20,640
» Has the prosecutor decided to file new

1310
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:23,200
charges that are misdemeanors or where

1311
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,720
does that stand? Well, it's technically

1312
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:27,200
not up to the prosecutors, up to the

1313
00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:30,480
department, and that is an avenue that

1314
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:32,000
we're pursuing. Uh, I don't want to

1315
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,480
speak too much about it, but there's

1316
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:36,079
certain things we have to do uh before

1317
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,599
we make that decision on whether to

1318
00:54:36,079 --> 00:54:39,200
present it as a misdemeanor or again as

1319
00:54:37,599 --> 00:54:39,680
a felony. So, we're we're just not there

1320
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:40,960
yet.

1321
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,079
» I see. Okay. Thank you.

1322
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,800
» You're welcome.

1323
00:54:42,079 --> 00:54:46,960
» Good. Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Becker.

1324
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:49,200
» You're referencing uh the opportunity to

1325
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,720
to provide feedback.

1326
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:53,599
What

1327
00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:55,119
would you have interest in a citizen

1328
00:54:53,599 --> 00:54:57,040
committee

1329
00:54:55,119 --> 00:54:57,760
uh initiative for

1330
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:01,599
» So

1331
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:04,480
» For rec recognizing technologies like

1332
00:55:01,599 --> 00:55:06,400
light automatic license plate readers

1333
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:09,839
that's technology now there might be

1334
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:12,559
other technology that's coming um the

1335
00:55:09,839 --> 00:55:14,720
same type of questions may be pres

1336
00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:16,319
present pres presented so

1337
00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:18,800
» The way I balance everything with my

1338
00:55:16,319 --> 00:55:20,720
ideology is

1339
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,000
if we give up our freedoms, we'll never

1340
00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:23,440
get them back. That goes for the Second

1341
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:26,800
Amendment, First Amendment, every single

1342
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:29,520
amendment we have. Um it it scares me.

1343
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:32,400
Um I'm 33 years old. I still have a good

1344
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:35,200
amount of life left a for ahead of me.

1345
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:38,960
Um as far as

1346
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:41,520
it's the all-encompassing power. So the

1347
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:44,480
fact that other townships around can

1348
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:46,000
pull from us and that there are not

1349
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,760
while we may put checks and balances

1350
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:50,079
here. Where are those checks and

1351
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:52,160
balances on other departments?

1352
00:55:50,079 --> 00:55:54,480
I can only affect what's going on inside

1353
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:56,640
my township. I can't address what's

1354
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:59,680
going on inside another township whether

1355
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:02,799
it's Pierce or 50 miles up the road. I

1356
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:04,559
just can't. Um,

1357
00:56:02,799 --> 00:56:06,480
that's a tough question because I I'm

1358
00:56:04,559 --> 00:56:08,720
not saying that there are no positive

1359
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,079
benefits in that. They've been proven.

1360
00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:12,400
There have been tons of positive

1361
00:56:10,079 --> 00:56:14,160
benefits, but I don't know if they

1362
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,760
outweigh the negatives. And I don't know

1363
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:18,160
if

1364
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:21,040
technology keeps increasing, which it

1365
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:24,160
will. It increases at a rapid rate. I

1366
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:25,920
mean, where is AI going after this? We

1367
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:30,079
just don't know.

1368
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:32,240
So my my real question is if

1369
00:56:30,079 --> 00:56:34,000
I support a committee or a systemled

1370
00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:36,240
initiative, if another trustee wants to

1371
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,680
as well, would you be interested in

1372
00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:39,359
volunteering to try to serve on

1373
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,359
something in that capacity?

1374
00:56:39,359 --> 00:56:42,079
» Always once that takes shape back.

1375
00:56:41,359 --> 00:56:45,200
» Yes.

1376
00:56:42,079 --> 00:56:48,400
» Um and I think I just take this from the

1377
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:50,319
approach that technology is not going

1378
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:54,160
away. And the gentleman earlier spoke

1379
00:56:50,319 --> 00:56:55,760
about data centers in a 15-second clip.

1380
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:58,880
Technology is not going away unless you

1381
00:56:55,760 --> 00:57:01,760
believe that it will. If American values

1382
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:04,240
are not built into the systems, there

1383
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:06,079
will be a vacuum that will be created

1384
00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:08,000
and countries around the world like

1385
00:57:06,079 --> 00:57:10,480
China's Communist Party will fill those

1386
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:13,040
vacuums and they will inherently not

1387
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:15,680
have American values built in. And that

1388
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:17,520
is a huge concern for future generations

1389
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:19,760
and protecting freedom.

1390
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:22,000
» I I totally agree with that. Um that

1391
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,599
being said, what are our American values

1392
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:26,559
right now?

1393
00:57:23,599 --> 00:57:28,240
What are

1394
00:57:26,559 --> 00:57:30,079
» Yeah. No, you're we're on the same page.

1395
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,839
» That's the scary part. I mean, we're

1396
00:57:30,079 --> 00:57:34,240
going to extremes on both left and

1397
00:57:31,839 --> 00:57:36,480
right. I mean, we have govern uh

1398
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:39,920
governor candidates getting attacked.

1399
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:41,920
Governor candidate. That's crazy. Um we

1400
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:44,000
have presidents being attacked. I I just

1401
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:46,640
I don't know what our American values

1402
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:48,720
are and if we can get a unified view on

1403
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:51,040
American values. And I think that is

1404
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:53,040
what's kind of nice about America is we

1405
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,640
have melting pots and it doesn't

1406
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,839
necessarily melt together. We still have

1407
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,680
our communities and everything,

1408
00:57:55,839 --> 00:57:59,359
Chinatowns, Little Italies, things like

1409
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,720
that. But when we come out to the

1410
00:57:59,359 --> 00:58:03,119
community, that's when we need to be

1411
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:05,119
together. And I just don't know if we

1412
00:58:03,119 --> 00:58:07,440
have the decorum anymore to be able to

1413
00:58:05,119 --> 00:58:09,200
do that. But I would always be happy to

1414
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:11,520
serve on any committee. I will say

1415
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:14,240
obviously I'm going to be biased, but

1416
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:16,559
that is my two cents. Um, and then just

1417
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:18,079
to the grand jury indictment and kind of

1418
00:58:16,559 --> 00:58:20,079
goes back to the ham sandwich, right? A

1419
00:58:18,079 --> 00:58:22,319
grand jury can always will always indict

1420
00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:24,000
a ham sandwich and if they didn't, I

1421
00:58:22,319 --> 00:58:26,319
feel like that is screaming that your

1422
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,440
community does not want it. But

1423
00:58:26,319 --> 00:58:31,400
appreciate you guys. Thank you.

1424
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:31,400
» Thank you, Mice. Thank you.

1425
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:36,880
» All right. Uh, Jason Stever, sir, come

1426
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:40,280
on up, please.

1427
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,280
» I'm with you.

1428
00:58:40,559 --> 00:58:44,559
» Five minutes. Just name and address for

1429
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:48,640
the record, sir. Yes, sir. Jason Steber,

1430
00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:50,480
4181 South Jensen Loop. The uh the

1431
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,839
greatest atrocities committed against

1432
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:55,040
groups of people have always been by the

1433
00:58:51,839 --> 00:58:56,799
government. While Mr. Lo just said that

1434
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,240
AI is going to be part of our life and

1435
00:58:56,799 --> 00:59:01,040
the use of it is going to be part of our

1436
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:02,960
life, I submit to you that while it may

1437
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:05,040
be, we still have to take in the human

1438
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,559
element. That is what is driving this

1439
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:09,440
force and that's really what's creating

1440
00:59:06,559 --> 00:59:11,520
the the uh the fear that's within our

1441
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,720
community. And here are a couple reasons

1442
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:15,040
why.

1443
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:18,160
Reynoldsburg, Ohio. Two officers were

1444
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:21,520
investigated for running 47 unauthorized

1445
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:25,040
searches and 53 unauthorized searches on

1446
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:26,880
the same vehicle. In Columbus, Ohio, a

1447
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:29,200
civilian oversight board determined that

1448
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:31,440
an officer violated policy by searching

1449
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:33,440
flock camera for an accident that he

1450
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:36,640
caused.

1451
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:39,520
In Indianapolis, Indiana, a officer used

1452
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:41,760
the license plate reader um and made

1453
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:44,880
hundreds of searches involving only a

1454
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:48,160
select few license plates. In

1455
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:50,799
Louisville, Kentucky, a DEA agent used

1456
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:52,799
the police department's credentials to

1457
00:59:50,799 --> 00:59:55,280
conduct an immigration related flock

1458
00:59:52,799 --> 00:59:58,559
search.

1459
00:59:55,280 --> 01:00:01,359
To heir is human. We are giving way too

1460
00:59:58,559 --> 01:00:04,640
much authority and way too much use to

1461
01:00:01,359 --> 01:00:06,079
humans to allow them to error. And now

1462
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:08,720
from what our understanding from the

1463
01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:10,799
last time we interacted uh Chief Tony is

1464
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:14,480
there's a 30-day cycle of when we do

1465
01:00:10,799 --> 01:00:17,839
audits of how these searches are being

1466
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:20,640
done. That gives the police officer 29

1467
01:00:17,839 --> 01:00:22,240
days to illegally search me or follow me

1468
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:25,760
before the search is done or before

1469
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:28,319
we're auditing what they're doing.

1470
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:30,880
This one is not necessarily flock, but a

1471
01:00:28,319 --> 01:00:34,000
Bethl police chief recently within the

1472
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:36,319
last three months used a police vehicle

1473
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:38,720
to drive to Dayton for an affair. And I

1474
01:00:36,319 --> 01:00:41,119
bring this up to say that we're having

1475
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:44,400
governmentissued items being illegally

1476
01:00:41,119 --> 01:00:46,079
used. And this isn't in socialist New

1477
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,920
York City. This is right here in our own

1478
01:00:46,079 --> 01:00:50,559
backyard. Some of this is happening in

1479
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:53,040
our own county. While the use of this

1480
01:00:50,559 --> 01:00:55,520
technology may be useful down the road,

1481
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:57,599
we do not have the safety protocols. We

1482
01:00:55,520 --> 01:01:00,400
do not have the audits, we do not have

1483
01:00:57,599 --> 01:01:02,960
the proper setup to allow humans to

1484
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:04,880
error and use it to their own advantage

1485
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:07,680
or to use it in an otherwise harassing

1486
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:10,319
manner. I believe that while the town

1487
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:12,000
hall may be a good idea, until the

1488
01:01:10,319 --> 01:01:13,920
village has spoken, until the township

1489
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:15,680
has spoken, that this is a good idea and

1490
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,599
everybody wants it, I believe you need

1491
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,880
to cut those off right now. And then

1492
01:01:17,599 --> 01:01:21,040
when the community comes behind you

1493
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,319
after the town hall and they say, "Yes,

1494
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,079
please. We're giving you the authority

1495
01:01:22,319 --> 01:01:25,920
to use that over us, then you can turn

1496
01:01:24,079 --> 01:01:27,920
them back on. But at this point in time,

1497
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:29,920
we're setting ourselves up for a lot of

1498
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:32,400
illegal issues and a lot of illegal

1499
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,799
searches."

1500
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,000
» Thank you.

1501
01:01:32,799 --> 01:01:36,960
» Thank you, M. She appreciate it. Thank

1502
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:39,040
you very much.

1503
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:40,079
Uh, Mr. Stever.

1504
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:42,880
» Yes, sir.

1505
01:01:40,079 --> 01:01:46,079
» If there was a citizen committee, you're

1506
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:47,839
referencing a Columbus, Ohio civilian

1507
01:01:46,079 --> 01:01:49,359
oversight committee. It's apparently

1508
01:01:47,839 --> 01:01:51,040
part of their governing process. Is that

1509
01:01:49,359 --> 01:01:53,520
something that you would volunteer for

1510
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:54,640
or like to be interested in if that was

1511
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,079
part of a process? I heard a

1512
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:58,240
recommendation there to

1513
01:01:56,079 --> 01:01:59,599
» Pause the program or cancel the program

1514
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:02,720
right now. Is that right?

1515
01:01:59,599 --> 01:02:04,000
» I heard a recommendation to pause using

1516
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,359
automatic license plate readers. That

1517
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,200
would be my recommendation. We

1518
01:02:05,359 --> 01:02:08,799
» Pause or eliminate all together.

1519
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:10,400
» Well, I mean, if you're going to do a

1520
01:02:08,799 --> 01:02:12,160
town hall, if that actually occurs and

1521
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:14,160
the flock representative actually does

1522
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:15,839
show up, you can determine it from

1523
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:17,920
there. But at this point in time, it's

1524
01:02:15,839 --> 01:02:20,160
an immediate pause until you can have

1525
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:22,799
the backing of your constituents that

1526
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:24,319
they actually want this in place.

1527
01:02:22,799 --> 01:02:26,000
But yes, I can serve on the board and

1528
01:02:24,319 --> 01:02:27,040
you guys have my email. So, just uh

1529
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:27,680
shoot me a message. Okay.

1530
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,760
» Thank you.

1531
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:31,599
» Thank you, Mr. Ste.

1532
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:34,960
Last one. I got Mr. Kyle Corker. Sir,

1533
01:02:31,599 --> 01:02:34,960
come on up, please.

1534
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,040
You got five minutes. Just name and

1535
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:42,480
address for record, sir.

1536
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:43,839
» Kyle Kirker, 4072 Silverstone Lane. Um,

1537
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,040
I'm going to talk about Flock for a

1538
01:02:43,839 --> 01:02:46,559
little bit, but the last two gentlemen

1539
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:49,760
were way more eloquent in research than

1540
01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:52,000
I am. So, I just I walked in here with

1541
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:53,599
some anxiety and skepticism about Flock.

1542
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:56,000
I'm really encouraged to hear that you

1543
01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:57,440
guys want to have citizen feedback. Uh,

1544
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,359
you're suggesting that we change the

1545
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:01,040
time so more people can be involved.

1546
01:02:59,359 --> 01:03:03,599
You're suggesting that we have citizen

1547
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:05,040
oversight. I'm walking out a lot more

1548
01:03:03,599 --> 01:03:06,880
confident than I walked in. So, thank

1549
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:09,920
you uh for what you're doing with that.

1550
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:11,920
And so, just questions for to be

1551
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,520
considered in the town hall because I I

1552
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,760
don't want it to feel like it's anti-

1553
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:17,760
police. It's general distrust in people

1554
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:19,359
in government. It's not anti- police. I

1555
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,760
think in Union Township in general,

1556
01:03:19,359 --> 01:03:24,640
we're we're pretty, you know, back the

1557
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:25,920
blue. Um but some some general questions

1558
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,599
I have because I think you're going to

1559
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:29,119
make a presentation or someone will make

1560
01:03:27,599 --> 01:03:31,280
a presentation about how we're using

1561
01:03:29,119 --> 01:03:34,240
flock. Uh I'm well aware of the

1562
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:36,319
benefits. What are the results? Has it

1563
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:38,400
uh what has crime lowered at all after

1564
01:03:36,319 --> 01:03:41,280
flock by a greater extent than it

1565
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:42,799
usually lowers? Are your clearance rates

1566
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:45,200
uh higher because of flock? Are there

1567
01:03:42,799 --> 01:03:46,720
any notable cases that you can point to?

1568
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:50,240
I know that can be tricky, but maybe

1569
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:52,799
even in general terms. Um let's change

1570
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:54,720
the benefits from theory to what is it

1571
01:03:52,799 --> 01:03:56,960
actually doing for our community. And

1572
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:59,839
then the skepticism.

1573
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:02,640
Um,

1574
01:03:59,839 --> 01:04:05,280
he talked about the audits. What are the

1575
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:06,640
audits showing? I don't want to just

1576
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:09,119
hear that they're happening, but I want

1577
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:10,880
to know, are the audits showing that

1578
01:04:09,119 --> 01:04:13,359
it's being used effectively? Does it

1579
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:15,599
show that adjustments need to be made? I

1580
01:04:13,359 --> 01:04:16,480
think Flock was installed two years ago

1581
01:04:15,599 --> 01:04:16,960
roughly.

1582
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,440
» Yep.

1583
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:20,799
» Okay. So, that's fine. We've learned a

1584
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,720
lot since then. We have a lot of

1585
01:04:20,799 --> 01:04:26,240
examples of it being used. And it's not

1586
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:27,680
just small anecdot anecdotal examples.

1587
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:29,440
There's hundreds of examples that have

1588
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:31,200
been found through investigations. So,

1589
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,880
we've learned a lot since then. So, I

1590
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,960
want to know the benefits. I want to

1591
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:37,280
know what safeguards we currently have

1592
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:39,039
in place, but then I want to know based

1593
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:41,039
off of what we've been learning over the

1594
01:04:39,039 --> 01:04:43,200
last two years, what adjustments to

1595
01:04:41,039 --> 01:04:46,000
policy do we need to make. Final

1596
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:48,400
comment, if we focus in on flock only,

1597
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:50,400
that would be a mistake. There's Axon,

1598
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:53,039
there's other competitors, but there's

1599
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:54,960
also maybe in the future facial

1600
01:04:53,039 --> 01:04:58,160
recognition systems. We can't just focus

1601
01:04:54,960 --> 01:05:00,480
in on this one item. What is the Union

1602
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:02,079
Township's approach to future law

1603
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:05,359
enforcement technology going to look

1604
01:05:02,079 --> 01:05:06,559
like to protect civil rights? So, uh,

1605
01:05:05,359 --> 01:05:08,960
looking forward to hear your

1606
01:05:06,559 --> 01:05:11,200
presentation and again, it's not anti-

1607
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:13,760
flock, anti- police, just really looking

1608
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:16,240
forward to understanding better what

1609
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:18,000
safeguards do we have and we shouldn't

1610
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,960
be afraid to make adjustments if we need

1611
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:19,599
to.

1612
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,440
» Thank you.

1613
01:05:19,599 --> 01:05:22,079
» That's good. Thank you. Mr. Kirk, do you

1614
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,000
have anything?

1615
01:05:22,079 --> 01:05:26,319
» Uh, I'll ask Mr. Mr. Kirk the same

1616
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,680
question there if interested if there's

1617
01:05:26,319 --> 01:05:29,200
a committee of course.

1618
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:31,760
» Okay.

1619
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:33,839
And all all of this I can save it for

1620
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,799
new agenda items.

1621
01:05:33,839 --> 01:05:36,559
Go ahead.

1622
01:05:34,799 --> 01:05:39,440
» Anyone else? Last last call for public

1623
01:05:36,559 --> 01:05:41,200
comments.

1624
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,799
» You got to come up to the mic miss but

1625
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:45,680
I'm sorry. Actually I'm sorry. I

1626
01:05:42,799 --> 01:05:46,880
apologize. I make it real brief. But

1627
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,480
once you

1628
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:50,559
» Just wanted to bring your attention to

1629
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:53,599
the Glenness

1630
01:05:50,559 --> 01:05:56,960
Withersville Bridge, you know, that

1631
01:05:53,599 --> 01:05:58,880
recently opened a couple months ago. The

1632
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:02,319
fact that if you're coming from the

1633
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:05,520
library side to your side,

1634
01:06:02,319 --> 01:06:08,720
there is no indication on the library

1635
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:11,680
side about the signage for the turn

1636
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:13,680
lanes. so that people are not always in

1637
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:16,240
the lane they need to be, whether it's

1638
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:18,640
to go straight or to turn right by the

1639
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:20,400
White Castle or whatever. And I've seen

1640
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:23,920
in the few times that I've gone over

1641
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:26,000
that overpass, every time somebody has

1642
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:28,160
cut somebody else off because they're in

1643
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:30,960
the wrong lane. So, I'm just wondering

1644
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,280
if signage would be of any help. Thank

1645
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:32,480
you.

1646
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:35,359
» Appreciate that, Miss Heavy. Thank you.

1647
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:38,319
The uh Okay. Anyone else has not spoken

1648
01:06:35,359 --> 01:06:41,440
yet tonight? Okay. All right. Seeing

1649
01:06:38,319 --> 01:06:43,440
none, let's close public comments.

1650
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,480
» Oh, ple please. Yeah. Yeah. But hey,

1651
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,520
time up real quick. Just everyone knows

1652
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,880
the rules. So, hold on. Time out real

1653
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:49,200
quick. Hold on. You can come on up. But

1654
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:51,039
just I'm going to bend them tonight. But

1655
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,400
once once you speak and you have your

1656
01:06:51,039 --> 01:06:53,520
five minutes, then we have to, you know,

1657
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,359
go. But but go ahead. Go ahead. It's

1658
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,920
fine. Go ahead. Please.

1659
01:06:55,359 --> 01:06:57,119
» Five.

1660
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,720
» I guess I was asked a good question

1661
01:06:57,119 --> 01:07:01,359
about why I brought up Danny Sanders as

1662
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:02,880
well. I do want to be articulate in my

1663
01:07:01,359 --> 01:07:04,720
opposition to how it currently has been

1664
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:06,079
going through because I think this at

1665
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:10,400
the state level we don't have enough

1666
01:07:06,079 --> 01:07:13,599
legislation to allow for proper

1667
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:17,599
regulation to be followed. I guess right

1668
01:07:13,599 --> 01:07:18,720
now there's Ohio House Bill 706 is

1669
01:07:17,599 --> 01:07:20,799
sitting in the house. It's probably not

1670
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:22,880
going anywhere at 646. It's just a

1671
01:07:20,799 --> 01:07:24,559
committee just to have knowledge over

1672
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:26,720
what type of have a committee to study

1673
01:07:24,559 --> 01:07:28,480
what type of effects data centers have.

1674
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:30,559
At the moment, I'm concerned because in

1675
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,920
Claremont count, Claremont County and

1676
01:07:30,559 --> 01:07:34,799
Pierce Township, they're trying to put a

1677
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:36,160
data center in and they can market it in

1678
01:07:34,799 --> 01:07:37,680
one way and then perform a different

1679
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:39,200
function because there's no legislative

1680
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,880
branch to tell them that they broke a

1681
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,160
law. So, I think if they're worried

1682
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:44,160
about water usage, worried about

1683
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:46,799
electric usage, we need to have some

1684
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:48,480
sort of governing body to regulate them

1685
01:07:46,799 --> 01:07:50,640
so they're not in the wild west in this

1686
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:52,079
sort of way. I know you briefly asked

1687
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,599
about that. I did not give a good answer

1688
01:07:52,079 --> 01:07:55,920
for what I thought about data centers in

1689
01:07:53,599 --> 01:07:57,680
the moment and I just wanted to clarify

1690
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,400
because it does matter to me.

1691
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:00,000
» Thank you.

1692
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,760
» No, I appreciate it. Thank you.

1693
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:04,000
» Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.

1694
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,799
» Uh okay. Anyone else that has not spoken

1695
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,160
yet?

1696
01:08:04,799 --> 01:08:08,319
» All right. Seeing none, I'll close

1697
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:11,280
public comments. Okay. Department

1698
01:08:08,319 --> 01:08:13,200
reports. All right. Chief Clemens, fire

1699
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:15,200
and EMS. Sir, the floor is yours.

1700
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:17,440
» Thanks, sir. Uh, in the month of August,

1701
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:20,239
the fire department responded to 242

1702
01:08:17,440 --> 01:08:24,080
fire and service calls, 700 EMS

1703
01:08:20,239 --> 01:08:27,199
responses, totaling 942 total calls,

1704
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:29,839
which averages about 30 calls a day. We

1705
01:08:27,199 --> 01:08:33,600
made patient contact with 599 patients

1706
01:08:29,839 --> 01:08:35,920
and transported 481 of those. The fire

1707
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:38,159
department completed 965 hours of

1708
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:40,319
training, were a part of 12 public

1709
01:08:38,159 --> 01:08:43,199
education details,

1710
01:08:40,319 --> 01:08:46,159
hosted 47 hours of ride time for local

1711
01:08:43,199 --> 01:08:48,640
EMT students, completed seven life

1712
01:08:46,159 --> 01:08:49,920
safety inspections and two inspections

1713
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,679
with the Claremont County Building

1714
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,560
Department. And that concludes my

1715
01:08:51,679 --> 01:08:54,719
report.

1716
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:58,480
» Thank you, Chief. Mr. Becker.

1717
01:08:54,719 --> 01:08:59,199
» Uh, yes. I got couple of I got a

1718
01:08:58,480 --> 01:09:01,520
question.

1719
01:08:59,199 --> 01:09:05,520
» Yes, sir.

1720
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:08,640
So, uh, Chief Clements, on on the, um,

1721
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:10,560
the year-to- date activity report there,

1722
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:13,279
the [clears throat] top four items, uh,

1723
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:15,040
fire and service call responses,

1724
01:09:13,279 --> 01:09:17,199
emergency medical responses, patient

1725
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:20,560
contacts, and hospital transports. It

1726
01:09:17,199 --> 01:09:22,960
jumped out at me on here that, um, July

1727
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:25,359
and August, there's more activity than

1728
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:27,040
there has been the rest of the year.

1729
01:09:25,359 --> 01:09:28,880
It's concentrated in July and August,

1730
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:31,279
more so than any other time. Is that

1731
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:33,440
normal seasonal or something going on in

1732
01:09:31,279 --> 01:09:36,239
July and August? What's going on there?

1733
01:09:33,440 --> 01:09:37,679
» Uh it it's easy to point the finger

1734
01:09:36,239 --> 01:09:39,040
directly at the season. You know,

1735
01:09:37,679 --> 01:09:41,920
summertime people are out and about,

1736
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:43,839
more active. So more

1737
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:46,239
injuries occur when people are more

1738
01:09:43,839 --> 01:09:48,159
active. Um I say that, but then looking

1739
01:09:46,239 --> 01:09:49,759
at at [clears throat] last year's data,

1740
01:09:48,159 --> 01:09:51,920
August was actually one of our lowest

1741
01:09:49,759 --> 01:09:54,239
months of responses. So uh it is

1742
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:56,239
definitely an interesting number. Um,

1743
01:09:54,239 --> 01:09:57,760
and it it could be possibly just the the

1744
01:09:56,239 --> 01:09:59,280
growth of the township and more more

1745
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:01,120
people wanting to come here in Union

1746
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:04,159
Township. Uh, the more people that come

1747
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:06,640
here, the more accidents and injuries

1748
01:10:04,159 --> 01:10:09,360
could occur. Um, I wish I had a crystal

1749
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:14,159
ball on when and why injuries uh and and

1750
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:15,360
sicknesses, fires occur. Um, but

1751
01:10:14,159 --> 01:10:17,280
I don't really have a I don't really

1752
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:18,640
have a direct answer on that, but it is

1753
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:20,239
interesting information to look at.

1754
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,360
» That's fine. I was just uh curious if

1755
01:10:20,239 --> 01:10:23,760
there was something particularly going

1756
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,560
on if it was more statistical variance.

1757
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:25,840
All right. Thank you.

1758
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:28,560
» Yes, sir.

1759
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:31,760
» Mr. Luke,

1760
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:33,760
» Uh now Chief, uh just appreciate it. Um

1761
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:36,159
are

1762
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:39,120
is your department finding ways to use

1763
01:10:36,159 --> 01:10:42,080
any new innovative technology to reduce

1764
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:44,480
manh hours and be more efficient and

1765
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:45,760
higher return to taxpayers?

1766
01:10:44,480 --> 01:10:49,199
» Yes. Yeah. So, we've there's there's

1767
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:51,360
definitely uh uh usages of AI within the

1768
01:10:49,199 --> 01:10:52,480
the command staff. Uh for some of our

1769
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:54,239
reporting, some of the some of the

1770
01:10:52,480 --> 01:10:55,760
numbers that I've gathered here today uh

1771
01:10:54,239 --> 01:10:58,800
were utilizing charts that we've seen

1772
01:10:55,760 --> 01:11:01,520
have been utilized by AI. Um on the the

1773
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:04,880
daily operations of the operations uh

1774
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:06,960
staff, not a ton of technology outside

1775
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:08,960
of our our normal,

1776
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:10,159
you know, systems in place for our docu

1777
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:14,159
report documentation.

1778
01:11:10,159 --> 01:11:14,800
» Okay. All right. Thank you.

1779
01:11:14,159 --> 01:11:16,560
All right, Chief. [clears throat]

1780
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,920
Appreciate you. Love how your guys show

1781
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:21,280
up for the two new hires. It's

1782
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:23,679
fantastic. So, good stuff, Chief. Uh, by

1783
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:26,560
the way, for public comments, I like

1784
01:11:23,679 --> 01:11:28,320
that. I enjoyed that. Thing is, if if

1785
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:31,280
y'all didn't come up and tell us about

1786
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:32,800
your specific flooding issue, I we don't

1787
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,840
drive every road of every day, right? If

1788
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,679
y'all didn't tell us your opinion of the

1789
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:37,600
flocks and how that's going and what's

1790
01:11:35,679 --> 01:11:38,960
going on the VFW, uh, appreciate that

1791
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:41,920
very good, good dialogue. I really,

1792
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:44,400
really appreciate that. Uh, Chief Ree,

1793
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:45,360
sir, uh, give us an update on the police

1794
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:47,280
department, sir.

1795
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:49,199
» Thank you, Mr. Dills. In the area of uh

1796
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:51,840
the dispatch center in the month of

1797
01:11:49,199 --> 01:11:56,560
August, our dispatchers handled 5,64

1798
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:58,239
calls for service and processed 443

1799
01:11:56,560 --> 01:12:00,880
uh documents for adult and juvenile

1800
01:11:58,239 --> 01:12:04,320
court. Uh in the area of uh records

1801
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:06,880
requests, our records uh ladies handled

1802
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:08,719
186 record requests and redacted five

1803
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:11,600
body camera videos in the month of

1804
01:12:08,719 --> 01:12:13,760
August. in the area of public affairs.

1805
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:16,159
Um, our officers attended our our honor

1806
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:17,920
guard attended uh the not only the Union

1807
01:12:16,159 --> 01:12:19,600
Township Police Night Out, but the

1808
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:21,120
Pierce Township Police Night Out and

1809
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:24,239
displayed the colors of both at the

1810
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:26,000
request of Chief Brockster. Uh, we also

1811
01:12:24,239 --> 01:12:28,080
did a first responder event at Christian

1812
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,840
Life Church. And we started a new

1813
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,719
tradition this year. I think it's it's

1814
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,400
really neat. We're going to try and

1815
01:12:30,719 --> 01:12:34,560
build on this every year, but we had

1816
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,920
officers out at all the uh public grade

1817
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,199
schools for the first day of school this

1818
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:39,600
year to greet the kids as they got off

1819
01:12:37,199 --> 01:12:40,400
the bus. So that was met with a lot of

1820
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,080
uh

1821
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:44,480
» With a lot of fanfare from the parents.

1822
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:46,640
So in the area of operations uh our

1823
01:12:44,480 --> 01:12:50,000
officers took 330 incident reports in

1824
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:53,920
August, 119 crash reports, made 421

1825
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:56,560
traffic stops, issued 163 citations,

1826
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:59,120
issued 270 written warnings, made 72

1827
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:02,239
criminal arrests, 67 traffic arrests,

1828
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:04,080
and served 72 warrants. In the area of

1829
01:13:02,239 --> 01:13:07,199
training, our officers attended 80 hours

1830
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:08,960
of training in the month of August. And

1831
01:13:07,199 --> 01:13:11,120
currently, we have three open police

1832
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:13,600
officer positions on our staff and one

1833
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:16,080
open dispatch position. I did want to

1834
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:18,880
make one note uh and you'll see this in

1835
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:20,480
our investigative uh call outs for the

1836
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:23,040
month of August. I always like to bring

1837
01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:25,199
receipts for the success of the flock

1838
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:28,000
cameras, and I appreciate the gentleman

1839
01:13:25,199 --> 01:13:30,000
that uh that asked uh about some of the

1840
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:32,159
successes we've had just in August

1841
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:34,560
alone. Uh we responded out to a report

1842
01:13:32,159 --> 01:13:36,560
of a stolen vehicle on Mapleport. Not

1843
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:38,239
only did we recover the stolen vehicle,

1844
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:40,239
we recovered two other stolen vehicles

1845
01:13:38,239 --> 01:13:42,480
out of Hamilton County uh through the

1846
01:13:40,239 --> 01:13:44,000
flock cameras. Also in the month of

1847
01:13:42,480 --> 01:13:45,679
August, we had a burglary at the

1848
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:48,400
McDonald's in East Gate South where they

1849
01:13:45,679 --> 01:13:51,120
broke in through the uh the uh

1850
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:53,280
drive-thru window and stole the safe. Um

1851
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:55,040
again, through the the uh success of the

1852
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:57,199
the area flock cameras, we were able to

1853
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:59,600
locate the suspect vehicle and make an

1854
01:13:57,199 --> 01:14:01,520
arrest on that. So, um, that's just

1855
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:03,120
investigations. That's just one month.

1856
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,800
That doesn't include some of the cases

1857
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:06,320
that our officers are working because

1858
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:09,520
they obviously have access to the flock

1859
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:11,040
camera system as well. So, you know,

1860
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:13,040
again, I just want to follow up and say

1861
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:15,280
I think it's a great investigative tool

1862
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:16,480
and it's making our township safer. So,

1863
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:18,239
thank you.

1864
01:14:16,480 --> 01:14:18,560
» Thank you, Chief Reese. Mr. Becker.

1865
01:14:18,239 --> 01:14:21,520
Sure.

1866
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:23,040
» Yeah. I have uh one item, Chief. So on u

1867
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:26,239
it's on the call out reports. You I'd

1868
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:29,120
like to uh re review those and find some

1869
01:14:26,239 --> 01:14:31,679
things interesting others alarming.

1870
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:33,600
December 7th, I'm sorry, August 7th, uh

1871
01:14:31,679 --> 01:14:36,960
there was a death investigation at the

1872
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:40,719
Motel Beach Bond. It was a twomonth-old

1873
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:42,000
uh little girl was found deceased.

1874
01:14:40,719 --> 01:14:44,640
What's the story on that?

1875
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:46,159
» Yeah. Um appreciate the question.

1876
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:48,480
Unfortunately, I can't talk too much

1877
01:14:46,159 --> 01:14:50,400
about it. It is an open case. Um I can

1878
01:14:48,480 --> 01:14:52,159
tell you that we're waiting on some lab

1879
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:54,560
results to come back as far as

1880
01:14:52,159 --> 01:14:56,320
toxicology and we do not believe there's

1881
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:58,080
any foul play involved. This is

1882
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:59,679
unfortunately a tragic accident.

1883
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:02,400
» Yeah. Okay. All right. Thank you. Talk

1884
01:14:59,679 --> 01:15:06,239
to you.

1885
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:10,080
Um yeah. Um Chief, thanks for thanks for

1886
01:15:06,239 --> 01:15:13,120
the report and the information. Um

1887
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:15,440
there's a question about the about about

1888
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:17,920
uh ONMAC license plate readers and

1889
01:15:15,440 --> 01:15:21,760
technology utilization.

1890
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:26,080
uh and and the benefits or successes uh

1891
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:28,320
that they actually make an impact.

1892
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:30,880
Knowing that the program or that you

1893
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:32,560
started with it two years ago, do you

1894
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:35,840
think knowing the information you have

1895
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:37,520
now you're able to track any data better

1896
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:39,520
to help communicate that? Because I have

1897
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:40,880
to imagine going into it, you maybe

1898
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:43,120
didn't know what benefit you're truly

1899
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:44,960
going to get out of it other than kind

1900
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:48,960
of subjectively what you've talked about

1901
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:51,280
for for crime. Um, and

1902
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:52,960
are you in a better position now, do you

1903
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:56,800
think, where you can correlate

1904
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:58,719
utilization and and crime prevention

1905
01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:01,120
with safeguards?

1906
01:15:58,719 --> 01:16:03,360
» I think we can. I mean, I I think that

1907
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:06,159
we we've made a greater attempt to

1908
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:08,000
document this document the successes and

1909
01:16:06,159 --> 01:16:10,480
like I'd said earlier, the investigative

1910
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:11,760
unit uses them for the big cases, but

1911
01:16:10,480 --> 01:16:13,679
we've got patrolman that are out there

1912
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:16,800
every day, whether it's a theft report

1913
01:16:13,679 --> 01:16:18,400
or a hit skip, hit auto accident that

1914
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:20,320
are using them. So, what we're trying to

1915
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:22,239
do, like you said, is look at the data

1916
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:24,400
better, come with more receipts on the

1917
01:16:22,239 --> 01:16:25,600
successes. I to answer the one

1918
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:28,640
gentleman's question, I believe our

1919
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:30,719
audit system is good, is top-notch. I've

1920
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:33,199
had our flock representatives tell us

1921
01:16:30,719 --> 01:16:35,040
your department does more than most and

1922
01:16:33,199 --> 01:16:37,760
we're increasing that. We've taken some

1923
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:40,719
steps this month to uh increase our

1924
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:42,320
safeguards. You know, I I think and we

1925
01:16:40,719 --> 01:16:44,159
have not we not we have not had one

1926
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:45,840
documented misuse of these cameras in

1927
01:16:44,159 --> 01:16:48,080
two years and we're using them every

1928
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:50,560
day. So, I think our policies are

1929
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:52,239
strong. Uh I think our audit system is

1930
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:54,000
strong. More than that though, I believe

1931
01:16:52,239 --> 01:16:55,280
in our officers and that, you know, it's

1932
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,560
easy for me to say that, but I believe

1933
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,000
in the people that we've got, but more

1934
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:59,760
than anything, I believe in the

1935
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:01,440
mechanisms we have in place that would

1936
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:03,120
deter or catch any misuse on these

1937
01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:05,840
cameras.

1938
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:08,719
» Does our current policy allow for like

1939
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:09,280
immediate termination,

1940
01:17:08,719 --> 01:17:10,960
» Misuse?

1941
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:13,920
» It's a good question. So, we have

1942
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:15,600
because we are a union shop, we it's a

1943
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:18,480
union, we have progressive discipline

1944
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:21,040
that we have to follow. So, if the if

1945
01:17:18,480 --> 01:17:23,520
the if it was an innocent mistake or or

1946
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:25,760
a procedural mistake, in other words,

1947
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:27,360
not somebody, you know, the common

1948
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:29,199
phrase you hear is somebody tracking an

1949
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:30,800
ex-girlfriend or or a neighbor that

1950
01:17:29,199 --> 01:17:32,560
they're mad at or something. If it's an

1951
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:34,960
innocent documented mistake where the

1952
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:37,280
officer just simply forgot to put uh the

1953
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:39,520
event number into the into the uh the

1954
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:41,280
fox spreadsheet, then yes, we would

1955
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:44,159
utilize progressive discipline. If

1956
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:46,480
somebody is utilizing the cameras

1957
01:17:44,159 --> 01:17:49,040
uh for something significantly more

1958
01:17:46,480 --> 01:17:51,199
heinous, there's nothing that says that

1959
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:53,280
I can't jump up in the scale of

1960
01:17:51,199 --> 01:17:54,960
progressive disciplines. In other words,

1961
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:57,600
there's nothing that says that I can't

1962
01:17:54,960 --> 01:18:00,320
go from issuing a written citation to

1963
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:01,840
the officer to demotion, suspension, or

1964
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,920
even termination depending on how

1965
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:05,280
egregious the action is. So, I don't

1966
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,640
know if that answers your question. I

1967
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:08,719
have to go through the progressive

1968
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:10,480
discipline steps. You know what I would

1969
01:18:08,719 --> 01:18:12,640
like to see is the legislature come up

1970
01:18:10,480 --> 01:18:14,320
with a criminal charge that would

1971
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:15,520
suffice for it. And I think that's

1972
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:15,840
coming. I think that's going to happen.

1973
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:18,640
So

1974
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:20,640
» So my next question followup to that

1975
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:23,120
would be do you see that as similar to

1976
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:25,520
like is that the Brady list? Would that

1977
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:27,760
be similar topic area?

1978
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:29,600
» The Brady list when you get into the

1979
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,560
Brady list you get into more officers

1980
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:31,040
lying.

1981
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:32,320
» Okay.

1982
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,600
» Whether they're called on the carpet in

1983
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:35,679
court or they're called on the carpet by

1984
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:37,600
their by their superiors. But pseudo if

1985
01:18:35,679 --> 01:18:38,880
they got terminated here for violating a

1986
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:40,239
policy of public trust.

1987
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:43,360
» It could be Brady list. It would depend

1988
01:18:40,239 --> 01:18:45,520
» Some type of new list that's like

1989
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:46,159
does not allow them into a public trust

1990
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,320
position.

1991
01:18:46,159 --> 01:18:50,560
» Right. Right. And you know I think our

1992
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:52,159
standards of conduct too it's states

1993
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:54,320
very clearly any violation of our

1994
01:18:52,159 --> 01:18:56,400
policies and obviously our flock system

1995
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:58,320
is documented by our policies. Any

1996
01:18:56,400 --> 01:19:00,800
violation of a policy our standards of

1997
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:02,719
conduct call for progressive discipline.

1998
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:05,120
So, I think we've got good procedures

1999
01:19:02,719 --> 01:19:07,280
and policies in place to deter and and

2000
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:08,640
and even punish officers that would use

2001
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:11,520
it in a negative fashion.

2002
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:13,440
» I I just don't I I honestly don't see

2003
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:17,280
the program being able to exist if it

2004
01:19:13,440 --> 01:19:19,920
was abused a single time

2005
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:22,719
um given the data set and the

2006
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:27,040
environment of community right now. So I

2007
01:19:22,719 --> 01:19:30,640
think that um if if it's not a pathway

2008
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:32,480
directly to termination for misuse

2009
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:36,159
um

2010
01:19:32,480 --> 01:19:37,920
that that that jeopardizes the the

2011
01:19:36,159 --> 01:19:41,120
sounds like from some of the speakers

2012
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:44,560
tonight there's maybe a mustard seed of

2013
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:48,080
trust with it if best if that and if

2014
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:50,719
there was one violation of that trust

2015
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:52,960
there'd be no recovering just be that

2016
01:19:50,719 --> 01:19:56,159
absolutely terrible for any government

2017
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:58,239
tool. So if we have to look at something

2018
01:19:56,159 --> 01:20:00,320
for

2019
01:19:58,239 --> 01:20:03,040
moving towards immediate type of

2020
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:04,080
termination for any type of abuse of

2021
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:05,840
that [clears throat]

2022
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:08,239
database

2023
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:11,760
uh or if we need to have a discussion of

2024
01:20:08,239 --> 01:20:14,880
pausing them or bagging them

2025
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:16,800
I think we must do that and it may

2026
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:19,440
actually help with the data set that

2027
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:23,600
would be able to there's public records

2028
01:20:19,440 --> 01:20:25,600
that came in public record requests Um,

2029
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:28,239
I didn't build it out myself. I I

2030
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:30,880
allowed uh I took the public record

2031
01:20:28,239 --> 01:20:34,640
request that that was was communicated

2032
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:38,400
out and uh allowed it to be analyzed and

2033
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:41,440
it shows 6,12 logged search entries

2034
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:43,760
between January and August of this year.

2035
01:20:41,440 --> 01:20:46,800
Sex offenses at the very top. Larseny

2036
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:50,320
and theft second burglary, breaking

2037
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:54,080
entering, third, um wanted person and

2038
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:56,800
warrants. fourth stolen vehicles fifth

2039
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:59,920
um and hit and runs on the top on that

2040
01:20:56,800 --> 01:21:02,320
frame magnitude down about 331 times for

2041
01:20:59,920 --> 01:21:05,520
mag for hit and run downward. So

2042
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:08,320
descending amount of inputs upward all

2043
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:10,960
the way up to 1672

2044
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:12,880
sex offense searches. So I would have to

2045
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:16,960
imagine by bagging or pausing or

2046
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:19,760
stopping these that we potentially would

2047
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:23,679
have what unresolved

2048
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:25,199
cases of sex offenses

2049
01:21:23,679 --> 01:21:26,719
lararseny and theft, burglary and

2050
01:21:25,199 --> 01:21:28,320
breaking and injury.

2051
01:21:26,719 --> 01:21:29,920
» You would have to see data I think that

2052
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:31,840
would correlate and if you would be able

2053
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:34,000
to look at the data and say that's when

2054
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:37,000
that's when the trustees bagged the flot

2055
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:37,000
cameras.

2056
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:40,480
» Yeah. I can't sit here and say that

2057
01:21:38,480 --> 01:21:42,239
every case we investigate is going to

2058
01:21:40,480 --> 01:21:44,719
successfully be solved through the use

2059
01:21:42,239 --> 01:21:46,560
of a block camera, but I think it would

2060
01:21:44,719 --> 01:21:47,440
take away from our ability to catch some

2061
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:48,000
of these people.

2062
01:21:47,440 --> 01:21:50,480
» Okay,

2063
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:52,159
» It's good good conversation. Do you

2064
01:21:50,480 --> 01:21:55,840
definitely bring that up when we do our

2065
01:21:52,159 --> 01:21:57,199
work session town hall?

2066
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:58,960
» I just wanted to hear from the chief

2067
01:21:57,199 --> 01:22:01,600
about this one. It's kind of timely and

2068
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:03,440
pertinent with public feedback tonight.

2069
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:05,120
So that's that's why I appreciate the

2070
01:22:03,440 --> 01:22:10,080
the public coming to the public comment

2071
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:12,320
on it. Chief, uh, uh, over 5,700 calls.

2072
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:14,000
That's the most we have taken all year

2073
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,960
to date, it looks like. Is that is that

2074
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:16,560
correct? Looks like it.

2075
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:18,639
» Yeah. For the summer.

2076
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,840
» So, so please tell our dispatch center a

2077
01:22:18,639 --> 01:22:21,360
great job. It's a lot of hard work,

2078
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:23,440
Sergeant Grim and his team. Appreciate

2079
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:27,760
it very much. Also, uh, I always like to

2080
01:22:23,440 --> 01:22:32,080
point this out. Uh, citations issued in

2081
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:35,280
the month of August was 163 citations.

2082
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:36,239
Warnings issued was 270. So, we're not

2083
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:37,520
out there just giving tickets

2084
01:22:36,239 --> 01:22:39,520
willy-nilly. I always like to point that

2085
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:42,480
out. So, uh, great job with our police

2086
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:44,239
force. Appreciate you. Um, okay. Service

2087
01:22:42,480 --> 01:22:45,040
department. Uh, Mr. Taylor. Sir, floor

2088
01:22:44,239 --> 01:22:47,920
is yours.

2089
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:51,199
» Thank you, Mr. Cemetery Division. From

2090
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:55,360
August 1st through the 31st, 17 burials

2091
01:22:51,199 --> 01:22:57,040
were performed generating $36,600.

2092
01:22:55,360 --> 01:23:00,400
Five resident graves were purchased

2093
01:22:57,040 --> 01:23:03,760
generating $10,000. Two colarium niches

2094
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:05,120
were purchased generating $6,000. The

2095
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:08,360
total amount generated for the period

2096
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:08,360
was $59,518.

2097
01:23:08,639 --> 01:23:12,960
In the parks division, uh weekly mowing,

2098
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:15,920
trimming, and landscape maintenance

2099
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:19,120
continues on at all township buildings

2100
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:21,520
and within our parks, the roads the road

2101
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:24,320
department, uh the road department

2102
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:27,120
passed a total of 17 potholes over three

2103
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:29,440
township streets and a total of 26 work

2104
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:32,400
orders were completed on multiple

2105
01:23:29,440 --> 01:23:33,600
township roads. And that concludes my

2106
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:34,560
report.

2107
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:35,520
» Good. Mr. Becker.

2108
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:36,239
» Nope.

2109
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,679
» Mr. L.

2110
01:23:36,239 --> 01:23:39,600
» No. Good. Thank you,

2111
01:23:37,679 --> 01:23:41,199
» Mr. Jiller. It's been very, very, very

2112
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:43,120
hot outside, so appreciate your team

2113
01:23:41,199 --> 01:23:45,440
very much. Uh, it's not been easy. Thank

2114
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:47,360
you, sir.

2115
01:23:45,440 --> 01:23:49,679
Mr. Flouty, planning and zoning

2116
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:51,679
commissioner or director. Sir, uh, floor

2117
01:23:49,679 --> 01:23:53,679
is yours. Go ahead, sir.

2118
01:23:51,679 --> 01:23:56,080
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. Starting with

2119
01:23:53,679 --> 01:23:59,360
inspections for the month of August, we

2120
01:23:56,080 --> 01:24:02,719
had a total of 41. 17 complaints

2121
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:06,000
received, eight unfounded complaints, 21

2122
01:24:02,719 --> 01:24:08,960
warning citations, 15 non-compliance

2123
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:10,960
letters issued. There were 10 resolved

2124
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:15,280
with and without actions with

2125
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:20,000
complaints, 529 illegal signs removed,

2126
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:22,159
14 misellaneous issues resolved, 28

2127
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:24,560
monthly violations total for the month

2128
01:24:22,159 --> 01:24:27,120
of August with

2129
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:30,880
34 of them being reinspected with

2130
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:33,360
violations and three nuisances added.

2131
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:36,159
For the permit activity, we had two

2132
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:38,800
commercial permits issued, two signs,

2133
01:24:36,159 --> 01:24:40,480
three single family homes, three

2134
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:43,760
additions,

2135
01:24:40,480 --> 01:24:46,800
one deck, 10 accessory buildings, and 18

2136
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:50,560
pools and fences for a monthly permit

2137
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:52,960
issued of 39, and a revenue in August of

2138
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:54,960
$10,635.

2139
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:56,880
And with that, that concludes my report.

2140
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:57,679
» Mr. Fani, good job. Thank you, sir. Uh,

2141
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:59,360
Vice Chair,

2142
01:24:57,679 --> 01:25:01,840
» Nothing. Mr. Lope,

2143
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:04,719
» No. Thank you. Good report. Mr. Clotty,

2144
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:06,719
appreciate you very much. The uh before

2145
01:25:04,719 --> 01:25:08,080
I begin, I always look like Hey, Mr.

2146
01:25:06,719 --> 01:25:09,920
Commissioner Painter, thanks for joining

2147
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:11,040
us. Distinguished guest, appreciate you

2148
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:12,480
being the the attendance with us

2149
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:14,960
tonight. Good to see you.

2150
01:25:12,480 --> 01:25:16,719
» The uh Mr. Wright, our township

2151
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:18,560
administrator, sir, the floor is yours.

2152
01:25:16,719 --> 01:25:19,920
» Thanks, sir. [clears throat] Given the

2153
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:22,320
discussion we've had, I'll be very

2154
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:24,400
brief. Uh we're still working on the old

2155
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:27,040
State State Route 74 sidewalks. I just

2156
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:28,320
received uh some notices that Law Han

2157
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:29,360
Associates, who's a rightaway a

2158
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:31,440
consultant, will be sending out some

2159
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:33,760
public involvement, public engagement

2160
01:25:31,440 --> 01:25:36,000
activities through that ODOT systemic

2161
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:38,800
safety grant. I did receive some

2162
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:41,199
preliminary good news from OKI today.

2163
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:44,880
Pleased to announce that the TA project

2164
01:25:41,199 --> 01:25:46,480
for the ICO sidewalks, which is from the

2165
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:48,400
Walmart terminus back here all the way

2166
01:25:46,480 --> 01:25:50,320
to Eastgate Boulevard, it'll tie into

2167
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:52,880
the the improvements that were made

2168
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:54,560
behind the Civic Center. Uh all of those

2169
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:56,639
projects were recommended for funding.

2170
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:58,960
So they all made the cut off. So that's

2171
01:25:56,639 --> 01:26:01,920
about a two to three year uh two to

2172
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:04,800
three year funding process but uh uh

2173
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:06,639
yeah we'll we'll get started on that on

2174
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:09,280
confirmation from the executive

2175
01:26:06,639 --> 01:26:12,400
committee or whatever on that. So that's

2176
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:14,400
positive news. Um we resubmitted our

2177
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:17,520
systemic safety application to ODOT.

2178
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:19,920
There's a a hearing or a kind of a

2179
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:22,159
presentation coming up uh where they'll

2180
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:24,080
represent that project. As I understand,

2181
01:26:22,159 --> 01:26:25,760
the road resurfacing program is nearly

2182
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:29,600
complete with the exception of Locust

2183
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:31,440
Lane, which we had a gas line cut. Uh, a

2184
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:33,440
resident ordered a gas line service and

2185
01:26:31,440 --> 01:26:36,400
we didn't want to cut the street after

2186
01:26:33,440 --> 01:26:38,080
we resurfaced it. So, that is pending.

2187
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:39,679
Um,

2188
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:41,040
and everything looks really nice from

2189
01:26:39,679 --> 01:26:43,120
the roads that I've been able to get out

2190
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:45,360
to. So, again, I appreciate the board

2191
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:47,760
and the partnership with the county in

2192
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:50,639
that. Uh, we're continuing to work on

2193
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:53,280
the safe routes to school plan. Uh the

2194
01:26:50,639 --> 01:26:55,920
Elmont project, the OPWC project for

2195
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:57,440
Elmont Old State Route 74. Uh permanent

2196
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:58,880
easements have been procured. I asked

2197
01:26:57,440 --> 01:27:01,360
the county for a projected bid

2198
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:02,880
advertisement date. Probably going to go

2199
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:04,400
out to bid in the next couple months.

2200
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:06,000
They really aren't able to do much work

2201
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:08,159
in the wintertime. So you'll see that

2202
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:12,719
that'll be an early probably an early

2203
01:27:08,159 --> 01:27:14,320
2027 project. Um, again, last week we

2204
01:27:12,719 --> 01:27:18,159
met with the residents of Glendale and

2205
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:21,520
and Glenn Willow to talk about uh the

2206
01:27:18,159 --> 01:27:24,880
this issue and some of the the findings

2207
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:26,639
that we've been able to uh develop and I

2208
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:29,840
think we have more work ahead of us. So,

2209
01:27:26,639 --> 01:27:32,159
I appreciate the board, you know,

2210
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:34,320
giving us some guidance in that. We do

2211
01:27:32,159 --> 01:27:36,480
have a Jed 9 hearing scheduled for

2212
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:39,360
October 13th. That's with the village of

2213
01:27:36,480 --> 01:27:43,199
Betavia for uh the addition of one

2214
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:44,800
property off of State Route 125. Um we

2215
01:27:43,199 --> 01:27:47,760
are working with the city of Milford

2216
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:49,920
also on expansion of the Jed 8 property

2217
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:52,320
related to the recently announced

2218
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:55,199
project that the board will see for

2219
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:57,840
reszoning uh in the next month or two.

2220
01:27:55,199 --> 01:28:00,159
So that's uh again a very positive

2221
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:02,000
thing. We have three separate nuisance

2222
01:28:00,159 --> 01:28:05,600
resolutions to present for the board.

2223
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:08,320
two vehicles, one uh junk, debris,

2224
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:10,800
grass, etc. Appreciate Mr. Flouty and

2225
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:12,960
Mr. Berkkey working on those. Uh that's

2226
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:15,920
a tough job uh going out to those

2227
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:17,840
properties and and following up on that.

2228
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:19,360
Also have an item for a fund custodian

2229
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:21,040
agreement for the board to manage the

2230
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:22,960
assessment payments that are anticipated

2231
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:24,719
to come eventually through the new

2232
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:26,239
community authority. This is very

2233
01:28:24,719 --> 01:28:28,400
similar to how we manage the funds for

2234
01:28:26,239 --> 01:28:30,880
the special improvement districts and is

2235
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:32,639
more of a housekeeping matter.

2236
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:35,520
Additionally, we are required to adopt

2237
01:28:32,639 --> 01:28:38,480
the findings of the annual TIRC meeting

2238
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:40,960
per statute. Uh the recommendation was

2239
01:28:38,480 --> 01:28:42,480
for continuation or approval in all of

2240
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:44,480
those instances and there were no

2241
01:28:42,480 --> 01:28:47,120
adverse recommendations or findings in

2242
01:28:44,480 --> 01:28:50,239
that regard.

2243
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:51,920
Um typically a September item uh that

2244
01:28:50,239 --> 01:28:54,239
you might be used to seeing the rates

2245
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:56,080
and measures approval. Uh that is not on

2246
01:28:54,239 --> 01:28:57,840
the agenda because of the recent

2247
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:59,280
legislative changes at the state house

2248
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:00,880
that's impacted the budget commission.

2249
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:02,639
and the budget commission has to make

2250
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:04,400
some additional determinations on that.

2251
01:29:02,639 --> 01:29:07,600
We'll probably see that hopefully in

2252
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:11,040
October in that. And then uh just a

2253
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:13,360
couple of other things. Um we have some

2254
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:16,080
great stuff going on in September, the

2255
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:17,360
Jungle Gyms, uh Union Township Fireworks

2256
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:21,360
Celebration in partnership with

2257
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:23,280
Crossroads, uh Jungle Gyms, RJ Cinemas,

2258
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:24,800
uh September 26th. Hopefully the

2259
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:27,920
weather's beautiful like it was last

2260
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:31,920
year. Um, you know, we'll have touch a

2261
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:35,360
truck at 5, uh, vendors at 6, fireworks

2262
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:38,560
at or around 8:45 or dusk, whichever

2263
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:40,400
occurs first. Uh, it's really 8:45's go

2264
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:42,800
time. Is that correct, Lisa?

2265
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:45,600
» And I think that's duskish

2266
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:47,280
time. Maybe it might be earlier than

2267
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:48,320
that. So, it's dark.

2268
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,520
» Sunsets's about 8 o'clock.

2269
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:50,960
» Yeah, it's dark out. I mean, it's

2270
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:52,159
basically dark outside.

2271
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:54,400
» You got a bedtime job?

2272
01:29:52,159 --> 01:29:58,000
» Uh, it's not far from that. Anyway, stay

2273
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:59,840
tuned to our Facebook page and uh on our

2274
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,960
website for more updates or whatever.

2275
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:03,360
That just shows you what I know about

2276
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:05,679
daily savings time. So, and then uh the

2277
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:07,760
fire department's got a bunch of uh fire

2278
01:30:05,679 --> 01:30:09,360
prevention week related items. They're

2279
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:10,960
actually doing tours of all, I believe,

2280
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:12,880
all of our fire stations on different

2281
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:14,800
dates and times. So, if you've ever

2282
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:19,360
wanted to see what station 48 looks

2283
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:24,080
like, you know, you can go um there on

2284
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:25,520
uh what date is that, Chief? um on 107,

2285
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:27,840
you know, and I think we'll publicize

2286
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:29,760
that on the uh Facebook page for the

2287
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:31,760
fire department. So, check that out. And

2288
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:34,320
I think Lisa is still looking for a few

2289
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:36,880
openings for the sip and shop on October

2290
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:40,239
17th. So, are you still looking for more

2291
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:42,480
vendors? Perfect. That's all I have.

2292
01:30:40,239 --> 01:30:45,360
» Thank you, Mr. Wright. Uh vice chairman,

2293
01:30:42,480 --> 01:30:48,080
» Nothing. Mr. L.

2294
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:51,120
Yeah, still still hung up on one thread

2295
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:55,600
of questions. Um,

2296
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:57,920
with license plate readers. Um, are you

2297
01:30:55,600 --> 01:31:00,159
tracking Columbus, city of Columbus,

2298
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:02,719
believe they have a transparency portal

2299
01:31:00,159 --> 01:31:04,560
that's turned on by flock and I don't

2300
01:31:02,719 --> 01:31:05,920
know if it autopopulates their their

2301
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:08,000
numbers or what they have. I don't know

2302
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:09,840
if that's an excess fee right now. Is

2303
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:12,080
there a reason why we don't currently

2304
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:14,000
use that? Chief and I actually just

2305
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:16,639
talked about this at the end of last

2306
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:19,280
week about engaging the transparency

2307
01:31:16,639 --> 01:31:20,880
portal uh in that and different

2308
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:22,159
communities provide different from what

2309
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:24,800
I've been able to gather is different

2310
01:31:22,159 --> 01:31:26,639
communities provide different levels of

2311
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:29,920
utilization of that. But that is a tool

2312
01:31:26,639 --> 01:31:32,400
that they provide us with and we would

2313
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:34,159
have the ability to integrate that. It

2314
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:36,719
as I understand it's a link that you

2315
01:31:34,159 --> 01:31:38,320
embed in your website and then it goes

2316
01:31:36,719 --> 01:31:39,920
to sort of a portal.

2317
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:42,080
» It's hosted by their portal. Looks like

2318
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:42,960
they it looks like they operate and run

2319
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:44,080
all of it.

2320
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:45,600
» I don't believe there's an additional

2321
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:47,360
fee for that. Is there chief?

2322
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:48,960
» I I'll have to look into it. And you can

2323
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:50,080
» It would be ridiculous to charge a

2324
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:51,840
single scent for it.

2325
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:53,920
» I totally agree.

2326
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:54,400
» Uh cater it to what you want to put in

2327
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:56,320
there.

2328
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:59,760
» Okay. That's to me I think that's a

2329
01:31:56,320 --> 01:32:02,960
structural thing that needs to be like

2330
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:04,800
immediately added into just what we

2331
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:07,440
provide. Transparency, accountability,

2332
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:09,360
communication to to constituents. that

2333
01:32:07,440 --> 01:32:11,120
that was a conversation last week too.

2334
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:13,040
» And

2335
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:15,040
and then the other piece someone made

2336
01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:17,120
reference about having flock leaison or

2337
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:19,040
representatives. I have to imagine that

2338
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:21,040
their company if they're absent of a

2339
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:23,600
strategic coms and infrastructure

2340
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:25,840
support right now nationwide with I

2341
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:28,719
don't care if it's them battling Axon

2342
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:31,199
for for market share or what it may be.

2343
01:32:28,719 --> 01:32:33,040
um if they're absent of that, the the

2344
01:32:31,199 --> 01:32:35,920
communities that are likely terminating

2345
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:38,320
contracts and turning off cameras are

2346
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:40,239
probably getting the attention. I'm I'm

2347
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:42,960
afraid that, you know, to execute Mr.

2348
01:32:40,239 --> 01:32:45,280
Dills's uh town hall idea that we will

2349
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:47,360
not get any concept of really

2350
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:49,120
significant support from Flock. Uh

2351
01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:52,560
unless we have additional leverage there

2352
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:54,719
and I I I'm on the fence now from here

2353
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:56,960
and everybody I'm not on the fence. I

2354
01:32:54,719 --> 01:32:59,760
would support that we bag it bag the

2355
01:32:56,960 --> 01:33:01,760
flock cameras uh until things like the

2356
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:04,400
transparency portal figured out until

2357
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:06,800
things like uh a defined disciplinary

2358
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:09,040
plan is is determined if it's you know

2359
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:11,440
one of our officers abuses the program

2360
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:12,800
and it can go straight to immediate

2361
01:33:11,440 --> 01:33:14,239
termination. I understand we have our

2362
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:15,760
collective bargaining agreements, but

2363
01:33:14,239 --> 01:33:17,600
that may be the ship that has to come

2364
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:20,080
first before the adoption of this

2365
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:21,840
technology unless we can point to the

2366
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:25,360
data set that everyone in the community

2367
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:29,120
is now saying, you know, we need this.

2368
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:30,639
Um, so, uh, we we can talk new agenda

2369
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:35,360
item later, but if you guys would want

2370
01:33:30,639 --> 01:33:36,960
to bag the flock cameras,

2371
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:38,960
help to address the public's concerns

2372
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:42,159
that we've been hearing, and I think

2373
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:45,440
also give that company the ability to

2374
01:33:42,159 --> 01:33:47,360
say we're at risk of losing more clients

2375
01:33:45,440 --> 01:33:48,800
and customers to serve, that they're

2376
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:50,719
going to want to address our residents

2377
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:52,880
and our constituents.

2378
01:33:50,719 --> 01:33:54,639
Um, and I think structurally there has

2379
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:56,880
to be

2380
01:33:54,639 --> 01:33:59,360
the policy and safeguards there in

2381
01:33:56,880 --> 01:34:02,239
place.

2382
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:03,199
So that's just an continued thread. How

2383
01:34:02,239 --> 01:34:05,520
long would it take to get the

2384
01:34:03,199 --> 01:34:08,719
termination policy into collective

2385
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:10,960
bargaining agreement or or to be able to

2386
01:34:08,719 --> 01:34:12,239
» Utilize something like that? Well,

2387
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:14,320
» If there's a program, if there's a

2388
01:34:12,239 --> 01:34:17,040
camera program, it's abused,

2389
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:18,960
» I'd have to talk to our legal counsel,

2390
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:22,000
but I believe that I would have to at

2391
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:25,280
least entertain anou with the bargaining

2392
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:28,560
unit, and it would be all three of their

2393
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:30,880
police. And so, you know, for that, that

2394
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:31,520
has to require a union ratification.

2395
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:33,120
» Yeah.

2396
01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:34,880
» And a ratification by the board of

2397
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:35,360
trustees. You have anou tonight.

2398
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:38,080
» Yep.

2399
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:40,239
» In front of you. So,

2400
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:41,600
» You know,

2401
01:34:40,239 --> 01:34:43,440
I mean, I don't know that it would take

2402
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:44,639
9 months or a year, but I mean, they're

2403
01:34:43,440 --> 01:34:45,920
going to give me a pretty early

2404
01:34:44,639 --> 01:34:47,840
indication as to whether they're going

2405
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:50,560
to want to pursue that or not when I

2406
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:52,400
talk to, you know, the union president.

2407
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:56,080
And we can certainly engage in those

2408
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:58,880
conversations. But, I mean, if they like

2409
01:34:56,080 --> 01:35:01,199
using the cameras and and there's no

2410
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:03,600
question about the public trust aspect,

2411
01:35:01,199 --> 01:35:05,600
you kind of got to we're all on on on on

2412
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:08,960
the on the same serving the community

2413
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:11,360
together ship. And so, yeah. So I I

2414
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:12,960
would new agenda. I'm not trying to

2415
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:15,600
surprise you, but I would I would ask

2416
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:17,440
the trustees to think about that

2417
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:19,280
» About bagging and making that

2418
01:35:17,440 --> 01:35:20,480
determination what the impact would be.

2419
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:23,679
What would be the impact of bag the

2420
01:35:20,480 --> 01:35:25,600
cameras or or pause the system

2421
01:35:23,679 --> 01:35:27,040
by 8 a.m. tomorrow or 8 a.m. the next

2422
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:28,400
day or 8 a.m.

2423
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:29,679
» 3 days from now. It's

2424
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:30,560
» Just a matter of going out and putting

2425
01:35:29,679 --> 01:35:31,120
covers.

2426
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:33,040
» You could bag them.

2427
01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:34,480
» You're still going to pay for them.

2428
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:36,080
But it at least starts to address the

2429
01:35:34,480 --> 01:35:38,159
fir it starts to remedy some of the

2430
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:39,840
concerns in the community until there's

2431
01:35:38,159 --> 01:35:43,040
a something the community feels

2432
01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:45,520
supported with. Right.

2433
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:46,719
» Right. Because the town hall is going to

2434
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:48,960
address it.

2435
01:35:46,719 --> 01:35:50,400
» Hold on. Hold on. If you want me to put

2436
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:54,239
that item on the agenda, I will put it

2437
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:56,480
on the item on the agenda. Um

2438
01:35:54,239 --> 01:35:58,400
I can do that.

2439
01:35:56,480 --> 01:35:59,760
» No, I'm just asking for for the new

2440
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:01,760
business tonight. We could just make a

2441
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:03,120
motion if we want to. if if you guys

2442
01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:05,120
think that that's enough time for you to

2443
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:06,719
think about, hey, let's pause it until

2444
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:08,560
these some of these steps are in place.

2445
01:36:06,719 --> 01:36:10,639
But right now, we could pause pause the

2446
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:12,639
program effectively.

2447
01:36:10,639 --> 01:36:16,480
» My take is let's have our town hall

2448
01:36:12,639 --> 01:36:17,679
style meeting like I suggested and uh I

2449
01:36:16,480 --> 01:36:20,239
don't I'm not making a knee-jerk

2450
01:36:17,679 --> 01:36:22,080
reaction right now. I want to first give

2451
01:36:20,239 --> 01:36:24,239
oh, you know, no other government

2452
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:26,560
entity, like I said before, has done a

2453
01:36:24,239 --> 01:36:28,480
public town hall style work concession.

2454
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:30,880
I want to do that. I want to give the

2455
01:36:28,480 --> 01:36:32,480
police chief his time to have his floor.

2456
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:34,400
Um, I'm not going to make a knee-jerk

2457
01:36:32,480 --> 01:36:36,719
reaction tonight. So, I want to I want

2458
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:38,080
to give if we have a full house, we'll

2459
01:36:36,719 --> 01:36:40,639
have a full house. We'll let everyone

2460
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:41,760
speak. Let's let's let's do that. That's

2461
01:36:40,639 --> 01:36:43,199
my thoughts. I don't want to make a

2462
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:44,320
knee-jerk reaction on it. So,

2463
01:36:43,199 --> 01:36:46,560
» I concur with the chairman.

2464
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:47,520
» Let's let's let's also let the chief and

2465
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:49,040
then maybe he wants to have a couple

2466
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:50,560
detectives come up and talk as well how

2467
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:51,840
how it's been good for them. And we can

2468
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:53,040
have some folks come up and say how it's

2469
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:55,040
been terrible for them. and then but

2470
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:56,800
let's let's have a town hall and then uh

2471
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:58,480
and then and then after that we can we

2472
01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:59,920
can determine the direction. That's my

2473
01:36:58,480 --> 01:37:01,199
thoughts. But if you want to put on a

2474
01:36:59,920 --> 01:37:02,639
vote tonight, we can put it on a vote

2475
01:37:01,199 --> 01:37:04,080
tonight. We can do that, too.

2476
01:37:02,639 --> 01:37:05,520
» It doesn't sound like either either of

2477
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:07,600
you would support pausing it. So,

2478
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:08,800
» I would not support that. Um just so you

2479
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:12,480
know, but if you want to put it on a

2480
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:14,800
vote, we can put a vote on record. Um

2481
01:37:12,480 --> 01:37:15,840
let's let's do a town hall. If you want

2482
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:18,159
to put it on vote, I'll put it on a

2483
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:19,760
vote. But I say let's have a town hall.

2484
01:37:18,159 --> 01:37:21,040
It'll be good good for the public. We're

2485
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:22,239
the only government entity in greater

2486
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:24,000
Cincinnati. That's that's that's doing

2487
01:37:22,239 --> 01:37:26,159
that. So, that's cool. I like that. And

2488
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:27,440
then uh and then then we can vote on it

2489
01:37:26,159 --> 01:37:29,280
with no action could be taken because

2490
01:37:27,440 --> 01:37:30,400
it's just a work session. And then come

2491
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:32,400
that's why I said I wanted to do it

2492
01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:34,960
before October. Then come October, we

2493
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:36,239
can make a decision. Um but if you want

2494
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:38,480
to put it on tonight, we can we can go

2495
01:37:36,239 --> 01:37:41,119
on record tonight. We can do that too

2496
01:37:38,480 --> 01:37:44,360
under new business. Would you like that,

2497
01:37:41,119 --> 01:37:44,360
Mr. Logger?

2498
01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:50,080
» You're both telling me you're not going

2499
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:51,520
to support it. Um So we can take a vote

2500
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:53,840
if you want to take a vote to to pause

2501
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:57,440
the program as we solicit community

2502
01:37:53,840 --> 01:38:00,639
feedback and stand the policies.

2503
01:37:57,440 --> 01:38:01,600
» Okay. When we get to that new business

2504
01:38:00,639 --> 01:38:02,960
when we get to new business, we'll do

2505
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:03,920
that. Not a problem. But let's follow

2506
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:05,199
the agenda and then we get to new

2507
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:06,639
business. We'll do that because I know

2508
01:38:05,199 --> 01:38:08,400
there are some folks that have traveled

2509
01:38:06,639 --> 01:38:09,600
here for their zoning. Oh, sorry. Mr.

2510
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:10,239
Wright, did you have anything else? I

2511
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:11,520
» Have nothing further.

2512
01:38:10,239 --> 01:38:12,400
» Did I ask you if you had any questions,

2513
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:14,080
Mr. Wright?

2514
01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:14,480
» Okay. Mr. Anything else for Mr. Wright?

2515
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:16,400
» No.

2516
01:38:14,480 --> 01:38:18,960
» Okay. Good job with your report, sir.

2517
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:20,400
Thank you. The uh Okay. public hearings.

2518
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:24,080
Let's get on with our zoning case. All

2519
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:25,040
right. Uh and uh Mr. Flouty, sir, are

2520
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:26,239
you ready to present?

2521
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:27,520
» Yes, sir. Thank you, Mr.

2522
01:38:26,239 --> 01:38:29,040
» All right.

2523
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:30,800
» It's okay.

2524
01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:33,119
» We have one case before us tonight. It

2525
01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:36,239
is 5-26-

2526
01:38:33,119 --> 01:38:38,639
the applicant is Bri Hill Development.

2527
01:38:36,239 --> 01:38:42,679
The applicant is requesting that two

2528
01:38:38,639 --> 01:38:42,679
parcels totaling 9.977

2529
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:48,639
acres be reszoned from R1 single family

2530
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:50,960
residential to PD development in order

2531
01:38:48,639 --> 01:38:54,560
to construct

2532
01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:57,280
six single family homes. The there are

2533
01:38:54,560 --> 01:39:01,320
two parcels one

2534
01:38:57,280 --> 01:39:01,320
with partial number 414220A

2535
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:09,920
022 and 41 4220004

2536
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:12,719
both being off of Glenns Withers bill.

2537
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:15,199
Some relation to the 2030 plan is the

2538
01:39:12,719 --> 01:39:17,199
analysis of the proposal

2539
01:39:15,199 --> 01:39:19,119
yields that the plans as submitted align

2540
01:39:17,199 --> 01:39:21,600
with the recommendation of the 2030

2541
01:39:19,119 --> 01:39:24,080
comprehensive land use plan. The

2542
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:28,800
affected properties are located within

2543
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:31,679
the IV point corridor focus area overlay

2544
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:34,800
as defined by the 2030 plan. some

2545
01:39:31,679 --> 01:39:37,360
analysis looking in the existing PD plan

2546
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:38,880
with sub area three which if you

2547
01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:41,760
remember was approved back in case

2548
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:44,320
number two-26-Z

2549
01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:47,119
consisted of 15 single family detach

2550
01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:49,600
structure residential homes construction

2551
01:39:47,119 --> 01:39:52,639
will be off the shared points of ingress

2552
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:56,159
egress with the ter termini of LMA and

2553
01:39:52,639 --> 01:40:00,080
Weeble Lane respectively the six lots

2554
01:39:56,159 --> 01:40:03,199
here within this case of 526-Z

2555
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:06,159
would be of similar types of structures

2556
01:40:03,199 --> 01:40:10,320
and the average lots being 30 to 35 feet

2557
01:40:06,159 --> 01:40:14,159
in width. The units are projected

2558
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:17,360
to be around 1,700 to 2500 square ft

2559
01:40:14,159 --> 01:40:19,280
with rear entry garages. The arrangement

2560
01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:21,679
and configuration of the units is such

2561
01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:24,320
as it promotes and reinforces the

2562
01:40:21,679 --> 01:40:26,320
walkability character of the corridor

2563
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:29,360
consistent with the 2030 plan

2564
01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:32,080
recommendations. Setbacks range with

2565
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:35,440
within five feet of sideyard setbacks

2566
01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:38,080
with larger rear yards with the re rear

2567
01:40:35,440 --> 01:40:41,040
detached garages and the front yard

2568
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:42,639
varying with due to the existing curb

2569
01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:45,520
radii.

2570
01:40:42,639 --> 01:40:49,199
The proposal aligns with the Glenessi

2571
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:52,000
withville Icult roads revitalization and

2572
01:40:49,199 --> 01:40:54,159
improvement plan. In some background

2573
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:56,159
information, the subject properties were

2574
01:40:54,159 --> 01:40:58,080
indirectly addressed in staff report

2575
01:40:56,159 --> 01:41:00,800
226-Z

2576
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:03,760
through which adjacent properties were

2577
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:07,119
reszoned to PD. Given the types of

2578
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:09,760
structures and uses with this proposal,

2579
01:41:07,119 --> 01:41:13,360
this is essentially an extension of or

2580
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:15,679
the completion of the last area approved

2581
01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:17,679
through that case.

2582
01:41:15,679 --> 01:41:20,400
staff has determined that the proposed

2583
01:41:17,679 --> 01:41:23,199
development does not necess necessitate

2584
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:26,400
additional required governing provisions

2585
01:41:23,199 --> 01:41:29,760
which are called for in section article

2586
01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:32,080
6 section 680 through 687 of the zoning

2587
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:33,679
resolution. A review of the applicant's

2588
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:36,080
proposal yields that the development

2589
01:41:33,679 --> 01:41:38,800
plans presented are consistent with both

2590
01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:41,119
the PD district regulations and the

2591
01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:43,199
adopted recommendations of the 2030

2592
01:41:41,119 --> 01:41:45,040
comprehensive land use plan.

2593
01:41:43,199 --> 01:41:47,440
Furthermore, the submitted plans propose

2594
01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:49,760
an appropriate transition between the

2595
01:41:47,440 --> 01:41:52,080
largecale existing highdensity multif

2596
01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:53,520
family to the north and east and the

2597
01:41:52,080 --> 01:41:55,840
more traditional single family

2598
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:58,639
residential development to the south of

2599
01:41:55,840 --> 01:42:00,880
the Icults road corridor. Density along

2600
01:41:58,639 --> 01:42:03,199
the frontage within this sub area three

2601
01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:07,280
for the lots located on the southern

2602
01:42:03,199 --> 01:42:10,480
side of Icults road nets around 6.5

2603
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:12,880
units an acre after deducting pro

2604
01:42:10,480 --> 01:42:16,719
projected rights of way and varying

2605
01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:19,440
street frontages. At the August 26

2606
01:42:16,719 --> 01:42:24,080
zoning commission meeting, there was a

2607
01:42:19,440 --> 01:42:27,199
recommendation to the board of trustees

2608
01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:30,239
that the plan is to be approved subject

2609
01:42:27,199 --> 01:42:32,560
to five recommended modifications that

2610
01:42:30,239 --> 01:42:34,960
are found in our packet tonight. And the

2611
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:38,239
action required is in accordance with

2612
01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:40,320
680 through 687 of the zoning resolution

2613
01:42:38,239 --> 01:42:42,719
that the board of trustees is to enter

2614
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:44,880
into a motion to approve as submitted.

2615
01:42:42,719 --> 01:42:46,880
approve with additional modifications or

2616
01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:49,600
deny the zoning map amendment

2617
01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:53,360
application presented in the Union

2618
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:55,520
Township zoning case 5-26-Z.

2619
01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:57,600
And that concludes my report.

2620
01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:58,080
» Mr. Flouty, uh, vice chairman, any

2621
01:42:57,600 --> 01:42:58,800
questions?

2622
01:42:58,080 --> 01:43:00,080
» No.

2623
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:00,880
» Mr. Logan, any questions?

2624
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:05,360
» No.

2625
01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:06,880
» Okay. Um, was there any anyone that was

2626
01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:09,040
Mr. Flouty, was there anyone that was

2627
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:11,600
against this case at the zoning hearing?

2628
01:43:09,040 --> 01:43:12,960
» Uh, there was no one. There was one

2629
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:13,600
person present, but they did not speak

2630
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:15,679
at the meeting.

2631
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:18,719
» Okay. And then will you just keep it on

2632
01:43:15,679 --> 01:43:19,920
the screen of of what the the houses

2633
01:43:18,719 --> 01:43:20,960
will look like. These are all single

2634
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:22,480
family.

2635
01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:24,080
» Yes. Single family homes. Yes.

2636
01:43:22,480 --> 01:43:26,080
» Great. Okay. Perfect. Perfect. That's

2637
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:28,239
all I got for you. Thank you, sir. Okay.

2638
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:30,480
Uh uh gentlemen, I'm going to entertain

2639
01:43:28,239 --> 01:43:32,719
a motion to open public hearing zoning

2640
01:43:30,480 --> 01:43:33,920
case 5-26-Z

2641
01:43:32,719 --> 01:43:34,480
and Zulu.

2642
01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:35,199
» So move.

2643
01:43:34,480 --> 01:43:37,360
» Second.

2644
01:43:35,199 --> 01:43:38,480
» Okay. No discussion. Mr. Campber, roll

2645
01:43:37,360 --> 01:43:39,199
call.

2646
01:43:38,480 --> 01:43:40,159
» Mr. Becker.

2647
01:43:39,199 --> 01:43:41,119
» Yes.

2648
01:43:40,159 --> 01:43:41,600
» Mr.

2649
01:43:41,119 --> 01:43:42,400
Yes,

2650
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:42,960
» Mr. Dills.

2651
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:46,320
» Yes.

2652
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:48,159
» The public session is open at 7:38 p.m.

2653
01:43:46,320 --> 01:43:50,560
» All right. So, now it's time for public

2654
01:43:48,159 --> 01:43:52,320
comments on this specific case. And uh

2655
01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:54,000
when you come up to speak, obviously we

2656
01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:56,719
start with the proponent, which would be

2657
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:59,199
the developer. And uh Oh, perfect. You

2658
01:43:56,719 --> 01:44:02,000
got it. Yeah. And then so the way I like

2659
01:43:59,199 --> 01:44:04,800
to normally do zoning cases is um have

2660
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:06,239
the developer speak first and then uh

2661
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:07,920
and then anyone that's for the zoning

2662
01:44:06,239 --> 01:44:10,080
cases, they'll speak after him and then

2663
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:12,639
anyone that's a opponent of the case.

2664
01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:13,840
And so uh we'll start there. So all

2665
01:44:12,639 --> 01:44:14,800
right, will you state your name and

2666
01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:18,159
address for the record?

2667
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:20,159
» John Hanks, 5306

2668
01:44:18,159 --> 01:44:21,280
Wilson Avenue, St. Louis, Missouri.

2669
01:44:20,159 --> 01:44:22,480
» Perfect. And then do you swear to tell

2670
01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:23,440
the truth, the whole truth? You bought

2671
01:44:22,480 --> 01:44:23,840
the true soap you got?

2672
01:44:23,440 --> 01:44:26,560
» I do.

2673
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:28,159
» Great. Please. Uh floor is yours, sir.

2674
01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:31,920
Thanks for having me tonight. Appreciate

2675
01:44:28,159 --> 01:44:36,320
it stepping in for Mr. Failis, so uh uh

2676
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:38,560
just uh um it's first time in front of

2677
01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:39,679
uh the the board of trustees here. So,

2678
01:44:38,560 --> 01:44:40,000
» It's an intimidating group, I

2679
01:44:39,679 --> 01:44:43,360
understand.

2680
01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:46,239
» Yeah. Yeah. Uh appreciate everyone's

2681
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:48,400
time uh tonight. Uh we're looking This

2682
01:44:46,239 --> 01:44:52,880
is, you know, this was kind of the hole

2683
01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:56,000
in the the donut of our our plan. And um

2684
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:59,440
uh so we've you know once we're able to

2685
01:44:56,000 --> 01:45:02,639
uh uh you know

2686
01:44:59,440 --> 01:45:04,400
acquire this parcel or these two parcels

2687
01:45:02,639 --> 01:45:08,080
u I think you know you have more

2688
01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:10,960
complete picture of what that um you

2689
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:14,960
know that corridor could look like with

2690
01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:18,239
with uh you know the homes all facing

2691
01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:20,159
Glenni and um you know the rear entry

2692
01:45:18,239 --> 01:45:20,719
garages and we'll be able to eliminate

2693
01:45:20,159 --> 01:45:25,600
eliminate [clears throat]

2694
01:45:20,719 --> 01:45:28,880
the curb cut that's on uh front SD and

2695
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:32,239
you know we uh really looking forward to

2696
01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:35,280
get getting that development started. Uh

2697
01:45:32,239 --> 01:45:37,280
so uh you know this will allow us to

2698
01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:41,280
engineer the whole site and plan the

2699
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:43,280
whole site. So it's not two different

2700
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:44,960
you know utility connections and stuff

2701
01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:48,480
like that. So it's a lot more efficient

2702
01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:49,920
and uh you know hopefully

2703
01:45:48,480 --> 01:45:53,040
you know we'll we'll be able to get

2704
01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:56,480
going you know in the next year or so

2705
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:58,239
and see some beautiful new homes along

2706
01:45:56,480 --> 01:46:00,880
that corridor.

2707
01:45:58,239 --> 01:46:02,239
» Perfect. Thank you Mr. Hanks. Uh vice

2708
01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:04,000
chairman. Any questions?

2709
01:46:02,239 --> 01:46:07,520
» Yeah. So, the whole project it looks

2710
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:10,960
like it's eight lots. Is that correct?

2711
01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:12,400
» Uh I think currently there are eight or

2712
01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:14,960
nine lots.

2713
01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:17,280
» So, how uh so on so how many units are

2714
01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:18,960
you envisioning when this is complete?

2715
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:19,520
» You mean on on this parcel or the whole

2716
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:21,119
the whole strip?

2717
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:23,920
» Well, it's actually actually both

2718
01:46:21,119 --> 01:46:25,840
questions. So, yes, the whole the whole

2719
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:31,119
thing and these two parcels.

2720
01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:34,719
» So, these parcels uh will contain six

2721
01:46:31,119 --> 01:46:36,159
And then the total is

2722
01:46:34,719 --> 01:46:37,040
21.

2723
01:46:36,159 --> 01:46:38,080
» Okay,

2724
01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:39,040
» That's all I have. Thank you.

2725
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:41,600
» Yeah.

2726
01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:43,520
» Yeah, Mr. F that was correct. 21. That's

2727
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:45,840
what I thought too. Okay. The uh Mr.

2728
01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:46,159
Loker, any questions?

2729
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:46,560
» Okay.

2730
01:46:46,159 --> 01:46:49,280
» Thanks.

2731
01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:50,560
» The uh Mr. Hanks ballpark. What are you

2732
01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:52,320
going to be selling these houses for?

2733
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:55,119
Ballpark?

2734
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:56,639
» Probably uh the 4 to 500.

2735
01:46:55,119 --> 01:46:58,159
» Okay. Four 4 to 500. Okay. Great. And

2736
01:46:56,639 --> 01:46:58,880
these are all single family, not multif

2737
01:46:58,159 --> 01:47:00,880
family.

2738
01:46:58,880 --> 01:47:02,960
» Fantastic. And then basically the

2739
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:04,239
board's already approved. I'll say to

2740
01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:06,080
the left and to the right, but this is

2741
01:47:04,239 --> 01:47:06,400
the center the center piece. Well,

2742
01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:09,520
» Yeah.

2743
01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:13,360
» Got it. Okay. And this would allow us to

2744
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:16,480
connect the two uh culde-sacs

2745
01:47:13,360 --> 01:47:19,840
which would you know help with you know

2746
01:47:16,480 --> 01:47:23,040
circulation and um you know I think I

2747
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:25,440
don't garbage trucks and stuff like that

2748
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:27,440
circulating around versus going around

2749
01:47:25,440 --> 01:47:30,080
and inefficiently

2750
01:47:27,440 --> 01:47:32,000
going back up and down.

2751
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:33,440
So, so basically the the two in

2752
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:35,440
culde-sacs there, they're going to be

2753
01:47:33,440 --> 01:47:38,239
connected and so I guess that would help

2754
01:47:35,440 --> 01:47:40,320
UPS FedEx drivers there. Yeah. Yep.

2755
01:47:38,239 --> 01:47:41,920
Okay, fair enough. Okay. Uh I think it's

2756
01:47:40,320 --> 01:47:43,520
all the questions I have, Mr. Appreciate

2757
01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:45,679
you very much. Yeah, good job. Thank

2758
01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:47,280
you. Uh is there anyone else that is a

2759
01:47:45,679 --> 01:47:48,320
proponent of this case that is for this

2760
01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:51,040
case?

2761
01:47:48,320 --> 01:47:53,840
» Okay, how about an opponent?

2762
01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:55,040
Last call. All right, seeing none, uh

2763
01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:57,679
gentlemen, I'll entertain a motion to

2764
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:58,320
close this public hearing case 5-26-Z

2765
01:47:57,679 --> 01:47:59,520
and Zulu.

2766
01:47:58,320 --> 01:48:01,040
» So moved. Second.

2767
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:01,679
» All right. Any discussion? Mr. Campbell.

2768
01:48:01,040 --> 01:48:02,639
Roll call.

2769
01:48:01,679 --> 01:48:03,440
» Mr. Becker.

2770
01:48:02,639 --> 01:48:04,239
» Yes.

2771
01:48:03,440 --> 01:48:04,800
» Mr. Lo.

2772
01:48:04,239 --> 01:48:05,679
» Yes.

2773
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:06,159
» Mr. Dills.

2774
01:48:05,679 --> 01:48:09,760
» Yes.

2775
01:48:06,159 --> 01:48:11,679
» Public session is closed at 7:43 p.m.

2776
01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:12,800
» All right. Uh, gentlemen, let's open the

2777
01:48:11,679 --> 01:48:14,960
conversation up for the board of

2778
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:17,360
trustees. Uh, vice chairman, anything?

2779
01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:19,760
» Uh, yes. So,

2780
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:21,840
you know, the the the public for a long

2781
01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:25,040
time has been complaining about

2782
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:28,000
highdensity housing in Union Township.

2783
01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:30,719
Uh, I share that opposition.

2784
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:33,679
You know, rather than six lots or six

2785
01:48:30,719 --> 01:48:34,960
units going on these two lots,

2786
01:48:33,679 --> 01:48:37,119
you know, frankly, I don't see any

2787
01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:39,440
reason why

2788
01:48:37,119 --> 01:48:41,199
one or two nice houses could go in those

2789
01:48:39,440 --> 01:48:42,960
two lots. Obviously, the developer can

2790
01:48:41,199 --> 01:48:46,800
make more money, more units. I get that

2791
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:48,880
and don't begrudge that. Um, you know,

2792
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:52,960
the the the areas to the south, that's

2793
01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:54,639
all still R1. Um, and and you know, I'm

2794
01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:55,840
concerned about the the not just the

2795
01:48:54,639 --> 01:48:58,080
character of the neighborhood, but the

2796
01:48:55,840 --> 01:49:01,840
character of Union Township continuing

2797
01:48:58,080 --> 01:49:03,760
to go in this direction. I I voted uh no

2798
01:49:01,840 --> 01:49:06,719
on the proposal of the neighboring lots,

2799
01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:07,760
the other six, and that's my intent this

2800
01:49:06,719 --> 01:49:08,719
evening.

2801
01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:09,600
» I really thought you were going to be

2802
01:49:08,719 --> 01:49:10,159
yes vote on this one.

2803
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:11,840
» Did you really?

2804
01:49:10,159 --> 01:49:14,000
» No, I did not.

2805
01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:15,280
» You never know. Might fool you some

2806
01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:17,840
surprise you.

2807
01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:21,360
» Mr. Luxer, uh, what's your thoughts?

2808
01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:24,400
» No. Um, I think it's uh like fills the

2809
01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:26,400
hole. So, it's uh is exactly that. I

2810
01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:28,719
mean, it continues on. It's a

2811
01:49:26,400 --> 01:49:32,960
continuation of the product previously

2812
01:49:28,719 --> 01:49:36,560
uh presented. And um to me, like I've

2813
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:38,960
said that it is kind of the only refresh

2814
01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:41,360
main street thoroughare that you can

2815
01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:44,480
gain in the township. And so, it's a

2816
01:49:41,360 --> 01:49:45,679
dense location as is, but again, these

2817
01:49:44,480 --> 01:49:46,880
are single family homes. They may be

2818
01:49:45,679 --> 01:49:49,040
town homes. It may not be someone's

2819
01:49:46,880 --> 01:49:52,000
preference because they're attached, but

2820
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:52,000
they're single family.

2821
01:49:54,080 --> 01:50:00,000
Mr. Flotty, we we put the uh the example

2822
01:49:56,159 --> 01:50:02,080
back up. Yeah. So,

2823
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:06,159
» Yeah, it's a single family house, 4 to

2824
01:50:02,080 --> 01:50:09,840
500,000, nice middle class. Um

2825
01:50:06,159 --> 01:50:10,480
you can go back to the other one. The uh

2826
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:11,840
and

2827
01:50:10,480 --> 01:50:14,800
» That is a nice looking house.

2828
01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:16,000
» And I mean I mean so it's not a you got

2829
01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:17,040
apartments in front of it. You got

2830
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:19,440
apartments to the right [clears throat]

2831
01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:22,719
of it. Uh, and here you I mean I would

2832
01:50:19,440 --> 01:50:26,239
rather have a nice $400 $500,000 house

2833
01:50:22,719 --> 01:50:28,320
there instead of uh more apartments and

2834
01:50:26,239 --> 01:50:30,400
and I like the the downtown type of

2835
01:50:28,320 --> 01:50:33,199
model. It looks really nice in New Town.

2836
01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:36,320
Um yeah, I mean I think it'll be good.

2837
01:50:33,199 --> 01:50:39,040
Okay. Um well, with that being said, uh

2838
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:41,440
gentlemen, I will entertain a motion for

2839
01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:44,400
the approval of Union Township zoning

2840
01:50:41,440 --> 01:50:45,199
case 5-26-Z and Zulu with the

2841
01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:46,480
modifications.

2842
01:50:45,199 --> 01:50:47,119
» So moved.

2843
01:50:46,480 --> 01:50:48,800
» Second.

2844
01:50:47,119 --> 01:50:49,840
» Okay. Any further discussion? Mr.

2845
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:50,560
Campbell, roll call.

2846
01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:51,520
» Mr. Becker,

2847
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:52,320
» No.

2848
01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:53,280
» Mr. Log,

2849
01:50:52,320 --> 01:50:54,080
» Yes.

2850
01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:54,560
» Mr. Dills,

2851
01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:55,679
» Yes.

2852
01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:57,920
» Motion carries.

2853
01:50:55,679 --> 01:50:59,760
» Congratulations, Mr. Ranks.

2854
01:50:57,920 --> 01:51:02,560
» All right, moving on. Old business.

2855
01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:04,560
There is none. Uh, Mr. Log, I will uh

2856
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:05,840
ask you to make your motion, however

2857
01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:07,040
you'd like to word it, or I can,

2858
01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:08,400
whatever you prefer. If you'd like, you

2859
01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:11,199
still do that.

2860
01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:11,760
» Um, to be on the motion agenda.

2861
01:51:11,199 --> 01:51:14,800
» Say it again.

2862
01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:16,239
» Or you want to Yeah, I think proper I

2863
01:51:14,800 --> 01:51:17,600
don't I'm not a Robert.

2864
01:51:16,239 --> 01:51:19,040
» You tell me. Robert rules

2865
01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:20,719
parliamentarian,

2866
01:51:19,040 --> 01:51:23,840
» But I think you would need a motion to

2867
01:51:20,719 --> 01:51:24,400
append the the motion portion of the

2868
01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:25,600
agenda.

2869
01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:28,281
» I think you're right. I think you were

2870
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:29,280
right. Yep. So before I do that, uh, M,

2871
01:51:28,281 --> 01:51:31,760
[laughter] you still want to do that and

2872
01:51:29,280 --> 01:51:33,600
to totally okay if you do. No sweat.

2873
01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:36,800
» So

2874
01:51:33,600 --> 01:51:39,280
I mean I I I would appreciate both of

2875
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:41,280
your support because I mean we're

2876
01:51:39,280 --> 01:51:42,320
hearing from the community. I know this

2877
01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:45,360
is something that's went within the

2878
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:46,880
authority of of

2879
01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:47,920
the program having been established

2880
01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:49,920
previously didn't have to come to the

2881
01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:51,199
board, but maybe it is a more sensitive

2882
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:52,960
item that needs to come to the board.

2883
01:51:51,199 --> 01:51:54,239
» Well, before we debate it, we'll do

2884
01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:57,520
that. Do do you want to go ahead and put

2885
01:51:54,239 --> 01:51:59,840
it on on the agenda?

2886
01:51:57,520 --> 01:52:01,440
» Well, I mean, this is after the fact. I

2887
01:51:59,840 --> 01:52:03,599
wanted it on the agenda coming into this

2888
01:52:01,440 --> 01:52:03,920
meeting, but um

2889
01:52:03,599 --> 01:52:05,440
» That's [clears throat] fine.

2890
01:52:03,920 --> 01:52:07,360
» I just I didn't know that. I'm sorry.

2891
01:52:05,440 --> 01:52:09,440
» I get that we're not for the community's

2892
01:52:07,360 --> 01:52:11,440
perspective. We're not allowed to talk

2893
01:52:09,440 --> 01:52:13,440
township business directly to each other

2894
01:52:11,440 --> 01:52:14,719
outside of this meeting or outside of a

2895
01:52:13,440 --> 01:52:17,040
public meeting. So it makes

2896
01:52:14,719 --> 01:52:19,440
communication sometimes difficult and

2897
01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:21,119
that's why you see this because it would

2898
01:52:19,440 --> 01:52:22,880
be a violation of the sunside record for

2899
01:52:21,119 --> 01:52:24,400
me to say, "Hey Joe Dills, let's put

2900
01:52:22,880 --> 01:52:25,760
this on the agenda."

2901
01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:26,480
» So [snorts] it makes it difficult

2902
01:52:25,760 --> 01:52:28,400
sometimes.

2903
01:52:26,480 --> 01:52:30,320
» So why it sounds like he wants to go and

2904
01:52:28,400 --> 01:52:31,920
have a debate about why don't we go in

2905
01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:33,119
uh so gentlemen, I'll entertain a motion

2906
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:36,400
to

2907
01:52:33,119 --> 01:52:39,040
» The language I would give you is

2908
01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:40,560
» Okay, go ahead.

2909
01:52:39,040 --> 01:52:42,719
I move to immediately suspend the

2910
01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:45,040
township's flock camera program. Cameras

2911
01:52:42,719 --> 01:52:46,639
covered and disabled within 48 hours.

2912
01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:47,599
» You want a motion agenda?

2913
01:52:46,639 --> 01:52:48,800
» Give me some draft language.

2914
01:52:47,599 --> 01:52:50,400
» Oh, we got to first add it to the

2915
01:52:48,800 --> 01:52:52,719
agenda. So, gentlemen, I need a I need

2916
01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:55,840
to entertain a motion to amend the

2917
01:52:52,719 --> 01:52:59,800
current new business agenda and add the

2918
01:52:55,840 --> 01:52:59,800
the flot camera vote.

2919
01:53:00,159 --> 01:53:02,560
I'll make the motion. It's okay. So, so

2920
01:53:01,760 --> 01:53:03,040
moved.

2921
01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:06,080
» Second.

2922
01:53:03,040 --> 01:53:08,000
» Okay. Uh Mr. Mr. Cameron, roll call.

2923
01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:08,960
» Mr. Dills. Yes,

2924
01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:09,760
» Mr. L.

2925
01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:10,560
» Yes,

2926
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:11,040
» Mr. Becker.

2927
01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:11,360
» No.

2928
01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:12,239
» All right.

2929
01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:13,679
» Motion carries.

2930
01:53:12,239 --> 01:53:14,719
» Okay. Go ahead and state your motion.

2931
01:53:13,679 --> 01:53:15,599
Let's put it on there and then we'll

2932
01:53:14,719 --> 01:53:17,679
discuss and vote on it.

2933
01:53:15,599 --> 01:53:19,119
» Okay. I would move I move to immediately

2934
01:53:17,679 --> 01:53:20,560
suspend the township's flock camera

2935
01:53:19,119 --> 01:53:22,800
program. Cameras covered and disabled

2936
01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:24,719
within 48 hours. All network searches

2937
01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:26,400
halted. Existing records preserved until

2938
01:53:24,719 --> 01:53:28,239
the board approves at a public meeting

2939
01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:30,560
written policies on access retention,

2940
01:53:28,239 --> 01:53:32,480
sharing, authorized use, prohibitions on

2941
01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:34,400
discriminatory surveillance and

2942
01:53:32,480 --> 01:53:36,159
monitoring of protected activity,

2943
01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:37,679
independent audits, public reporting,

2944
01:53:36,159 --> 01:53:39,280
and the public complaint process and

2945
01:53:37,679 --> 01:53:41,679
discipline up to including termination

2946
01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:43,280
for intentional misuse consistent with

2947
01:53:41,679 --> 01:53:45,599
applicable law, bargaining agreements,

2948
01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:46,960
and due process. Resumption requires the

2949
01:53:45,599 --> 01:53:48,560
affirmative vote of the board at a

2950
01:53:46,960 --> 01:53:49,920
public meeting.

2951
01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:53,280
» Did you just type that up? That's

2952
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:54,960
impressive. Um,

2953
01:53:53,280 --> 01:53:55,520
So moved.

2954
01:53:54,960 --> 01:53:58,960
» Second.

2955
01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:59,760
» Okay. Uh Mr. Campbell, roll call.

2956
01:53:58,960 --> 01:54:01,280
» Mr. Dills.

2957
01:53:59,760 --> 01:54:02,480
» Oh, hold on. Hold on. First. Well, for

2958
01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:04,800
first discussion. Sorry. First

2959
01:54:02,480 --> 01:54:07,280
discussion. So, um All right.

2960
01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:08,880
Discussion. You want to suspend them? I

2961
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:10,800
I I stand by what I said before. I'll

2962
01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:12,400
keep my comments brief. Uh I do not I

2963
01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:14,000
want to wait till we have our town hall

2964
01:54:12,400 --> 01:54:15,920
style meeting and then I want to get

2965
01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:17,440
some feedback from both sides and then

2966
01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:19,119
uh and then October meeting we can make

2967
01:54:17,440 --> 01:54:19,840
a decision. That's my answer. I'm

2968
01:54:19,119 --> 01:54:21,840
sticking to it.

2969
01:54:19,840 --> 01:54:23,520
» To the chairman's comment. Okay,

2970
01:54:21,840 --> 01:54:24,800
» That's fine. We're probably not far off

2971
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:27,440
right there. I want you to just

2972
01:54:24,800 --> 01:54:30,080
understand that if a motion like this

2973
01:54:27,440 --> 01:54:32,320
passes, I believe it gives more

2974
01:54:30,080 --> 01:54:34,639
visibility to the company like Flock to

2975
01:54:32,320 --> 01:54:38,320
actually give resources to come and

2976
01:54:34,639 --> 01:54:40,239
address the constituents concerns. And I

2977
01:54:38,320 --> 01:54:42,400
think that would be more successful of a

2978
01:54:40,239 --> 01:54:44,159
town hall and community feedback. And

2979
01:54:42,400 --> 01:54:46,639
the chief may even have some data points

2980
01:54:44,159 --> 01:54:49,040
and response from temporary suspending

2981
01:54:46,639 --> 01:54:50,480
of the program in the time period

2982
01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:51,920
between now and town hall is scheduled.

2983
01:54:50,480 --> 01:54:53,679
So, I'll stand by that. I think your

2984
01:54:51,920 --> 01:54:57,119
heart and minds in the right place. Um,

2985
01:54:53,679 --> 01:54:59,040
you know, I I see both sides. I just I'm

2986
01:54:57,119 --> 01:55:02,800
not prepared to make a vote on this

2987
01:54:59,040 --> 01:55:04,560
tonight. I I I need to We have talked

2988
01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:06,239
and campaigned a lot about soliciting

2989
01:55:04,560 --> 01:55:08,159
feedback. I think I think I think a town

2990
01:55:06,239 --> 01:55:09,360
hall will be fun. I I'm I'm excited to

2991
01:55:08,159 --> 01:55:11,199
get feedback. It's a very important

2992
01:55:09,360 --> 01:55:12,800
Fourth Amendment issue. Uh and and

2993
01:55:11,199 --> 01:55:15,280
there's both arguments. I like where

2994
01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:16,480
your head's at. Uh but I just I just I

2995
01:55:15,280 --> 01:55:19,280
don't think I'm not ready to make a

2996
01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:20,880
knee-jerk decision tonight. And so uh um

2997
01:55:19,280 --> 01:55:23,280
I need I want to make a more educated

2998
01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:25,119
decision. So I want to solicit solicit

2999
01:55:23,280 --> 01:55:26,560
feedback. I want to hear some from my

3000
01:55:25,119 --> 01:55:27,599
some from the detectives their stories.

3001
01:55:26,560 --> 01:55:29,520
I want to hear from my chief. I want to

3002
01:55:27,599 --> 01:55:30,960
hear from stories about you know the the

3003
01:55:29,520 --> 01:55:32,560
gentleman brought up you know

3004
01:55:30,960 --> 01:55:33,920
Reynoldsburg Ohio and Columbus Ohio and

3005
01:55:32,560 --> 01:55:36,080
Louisville and there's issues there and

3006
01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:37,840
I want to hear both sides and then uh I

3007
01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:39,520
just want to listen and then after that

3008
01:55:37,840 --> 01:55:42,800
hey let's make a decision October.

3009
01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:45,280
» I can understand painting the motion as

3010
01:55:42,800 --> 01:55:48,320
a knee-jerk decision. I guess I'd also

3011
01:55:45,280 --> 01:55:51,040
say the perspective is when the program

3012
01:55:48,320 --> 01:55:53,760
was first presented two-ish years ago

3013
01:55:51,040 --> 01:55:56,480
and there was not the public scrutiny

3014
01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:58,480
and discussion at large even to the

3015
01:55:56,480 --> 01:56:00,000
effect of

3016
01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:01,760
criminals don't need to know where the

3017
01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:05,360
cameras are so we can capture the

3018
01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:07,440
criminals. Um maybe that was the wrong

3019
01:56:05,360 --> 01:56:09,360
thing to just approve or allow that type

3020
01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:12,400
of program to get unfolded without the

3021
01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:15,440
proper due process in place. So I just

3022
01:56:12,400 --> 01:56:16,880
view temporary suspension of it as

3023
01:56:15,440 --> 01:56:18,400
providing the right time and get it back

3024
01:56:16,880 --> 01:56:20,719
on the rails in the best direction that

3025
01:56:18,400 --> 01:56:22,400
builds will and trust with the community

3026
01:56:20,719 --> 01:56:24,560
with at large. [snorts]

3027
01:56:22,400 --> 01:56:27,119
» Okay. Motion and second's already been

3028
01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:29,360
made. Uh Mr. C. Any further discussion?

3029
01:56:27,119 --> 01:56:30,560
Mr. Kim, roll call.

3030
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:32,719
» Mr. Dills,

3031
01:56:30,560 --> 01:56:33,679
» No.

3032
01:56:32,719 --> 01:56:34,800
» Mr. Lo,

3033
01:56:33,679 --> 01:56:35,679
» Yes.

3034
01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:37,040
» Mr. Becker,

3035
01:56:35,679 --> 01:56:40,000
» No.

3036
01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:42,400
» Okay. Uh moving on the uh consent

3037
01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:44,080
agenda. Uh, gentlemen, I'll entertain a

3038
01:56:42,400 --> 01:56:45,440
motion for the approval. And I'm going

3039
01:56:44,080 --> 01:56:47,840
to read all this off. For the approval

3040
01:56:45,440 --> 01:56:50,239
of the minutes from August 11, 2026

3041
01:56:47,840 --> 01:56:51,840
regular meeting minutes, August 11, 2026

3042
01:56:50,239 --> 01:56:53,520
zoning meeting minutes. The approval of

3043
01:56:51,840 --> 01:56:55,040
payments as prepared by fiscal officer

3044
01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:56,639
Ron Campbell. And approval of the

3045
01:56:55,040 --> 01:56:58,239
monthly financial report as prepared by

3046
01:56:56,639 --> 01:56:59,360
our fiscal officer Ron Campbell.

3047
01:56:58,239 --> 01:57:00,400
» Some moved.

3048
01:56:59,360 --> 01:57:01,920
» Second.

3049
01:57:00,400 --> 01:57:02,639
» Discussion. Mr. Campbell. Roll call.

3050
01:57:01,920 --> 01:57:03,360
» Mr. Becker.

3051
01:57:02,639 --> 01:57:04,080
» Yes.

3052
01:57:03,360 --> 01:57:04,560
» Mr. Lo.

3053
01:57:04,080 --> 01:57:05,280
» Yes.

3054
01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:06,480
» Mr. Dills.

3055
01:57:05,280 --> 01:57:08,960
» Yes. Motion carries.

3056
01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:11,040
» Okay. And uh, Mr. Wright, which two am I

3057
01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:13,280
excluding here? Yes, sir. So, on the

3058
01:57:11,040 --> 01:57:15,040
purchase orders, uh I'm going to ask

3059
01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:16,000
that the board carve out

3060
01:57:15,040 --> 01:57:18,000
» Yep.

3061
01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:18,719
» Um the last two.

3062
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:22,960
» Okay.

3063
01:57:18,719 --> 01:57:25,040
» Um and again, I believe most of these

3064
01:57:22,960 --> 01:57:26,880
with the exception of the total quality

3065
01:57:25,040 --> 01:57:27,679
logistics reimbursements because those

3066
01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:28,159
are recent.

3067
01:57:27,679 --> 01:57:30,159
» Yeah.

3068
01:57:28,159 --> 01:57:33,199
» Have already been approved via docuign.

3069
01:57:30,159 --> 01:57:35,520
» Okay. Uh so the first and four I will

3070
01:57:33,199 --> 01:57:38,320
read out and entertain a motion on and

3071
01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:41,760
then the second two uh related to some

3072
01:57:38,320 --> 01:57:45,440
buildout items at the 4357 Ferguson

3073
01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:45,920
building. I'll ask for a second uh

3074
01:57:45,440 --> 01:57:47,760
motion.

3075
01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:50,320
» So basically first floor first floor

3076
01:57:47,760 --> 01:57:50,960
first and then then the last two by

3077
01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:52,560
themselves.

3078
01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:55,360
» Yes sir. That's correct. No problem. So

3079
01:57:52,560 --> 01:57:57,280
I will uh read uh the first four. So the

3080
01:57:55,360 --> 01:57:58,880
first one is to the Claremont County

3081
01:57:57,280 --> 01:58:02,320
Transportation Improvement District for

3082
01:57:58,880 --> 01:58:04,239
the Elmont old 74 turn lane OPWC

3083
01:58:02,320 --> 01:58:06,239
contribution plus the sidewalk as per

3084
01:58:04,239 --> 01:58:09,239
our T agreement in the amount of

3085
01:58:06,239 --> 01:58:09,239
$200,86411.

3086
01:58:09,280 --> 01:58:13,520
That's our [clears throat] total of our

3087
01:58:10,719 --> 01:58:14,800
local match on that. The second item is

3088
01:58:13,520 --> 01:58:16,400
to the transportation improvement

3089
01:58:14,800 --> 01:58:18,880
district to the Mount Carmel Tobasco

3090
01:58:16,400 --> 01:58:20,719
Road Clpike intersection improvements

3091
01:58:18,880 --> 01:58:22,960
design work and local match from the

3092
01:58:20,719 --> 01:58:26,000
township's perspective and that's the

3093
01:58:22,960 --> 01:58:27,520
amount of $121,958.

3094
01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:30,960
If you remember, we discussed that at

3095
01:58:27,520 --> 01:58:32,960
the last meeting. The third one uh is to

3096
01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:35,360
total quality logistics for their July

3097
01:58:32,960 --> 01:58:39,239
reimbursement uh economic development

3098
01:58:35,360 --> 01:58:39,239
agreement in the amount of $36,9541.

3099
01:58:40,239 --> 01:58:44,560
And the fourth one is the total quality

3100
01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:48,920
logistics for the August 2026

3101
01:58:44,560 --> 01:58:48,920
reimbursement in the amount of 63,72.31.

3102
01:58:51,360 --> 01:58:54,480
So I need a motion on those four.

3103
01:58:53,119 --> 01:58:56,560
» All right. So gentlemen, a motion for

3104
01:58:54,480 --> 01:58:58,080
the purchase orders exceeding 15,000 as

3105
01:58:56,560 --> 01:58:58,800
just read by Mr. Wright.

3106
01:58:58,080 --> 01:58:59,520
» So moved.

3107
01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:00,880
» Second.

3108
01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:01,679
» Mr. Campbell. Roll call.

3109
01:59:00,880 --> 01:59:02,639
» Mr. Becker.

3110
01:59:01,679 --> 01:59:03,440
» Yes.

3111
01:59:02,639 --> 01:59:04,239
» Mr. Lug.

3112
01:59:03,440 --> 01:59:05,040
» Yes.

3113
01:59:04,239 --> 01:59:05,599
» Mr. Dills.

3114
01:59:05,040 --> 01:59:06,800
» Yes.

3115
01:59:05,599 --> 01:59:08,080
» Motion carries.

3116
01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:08,880
» All right. And then Mr. Wright. Second

3117
01:59:08,080 --> 01:59:11,119
items. Go ahead.

3118
01:59:08,880 --> 01:59:12,400
» Second item. Uh so the the second round

3119
01:59:11,119 --> 01:59:14,639
of purchase orders this is for the

3120
01:59:12,400 --> 01:59:18,239
service department to Lowe's credit for

3121
01:59:14,639 --> 01:59:20,719
40 4357 Ferguson Drive for Soma Home

3122
01:59:18,239 --> 01:59:24,040
Holdings Suite 120 cabinets in the

3123
01:59:20,719 --> 01:59:24,040
amount of $33,472.68.

3124
01:59:25,119 --> 01:59:31,119
Second item of business is to America's

3125
01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:32,880
Floor Source LLC uh for suite 120

3126
01:59:31,119 --> 01:59:35,040
flooring. That's for a pending tenant

3127
01:59:32,880 --> 01:59:38,040
lease that we have uh in the amount of

3128
01:59:35,040 --> 01:59:38,040
$43,824.

3129
01:59:38,080 --> 01:59:42,719
» Okay, gentlemen. A motion for and for

3130
01:59:40,480 --> 01:59:43,679
the approval of the two items that Mr.

3131
01:59:42,719 --> 01:59:45,280
Ra had just read off.

3132
01:59:43,679 --> 01:59:48,280
» So moved.

3133
01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:48,280
» Second.

3134
01:59:49,199 --> 01:59:52,000
» Uh Mr. Camp. Sorry.

3135
01:59:51,520 --> 01:59:52,719
» Ber.

3136
01:59:52,000 --> 01:59:53,520
» Yes.

3137
01:59:52,719 --> 01:59:54,239
» Mr. Dills.

3138
01:59:53,520 --> 01:59:55,199
» Yes.

3139
01:59:54,239 --> 01:59:56,400
» Mr. L.

3140
01:59:55,199 --> 01:59:56,960
» I will abstain.

3141
01:59:56,400 --> 01:59:58,080
» All right.

3142
01:59:56,960 --> 01:59:59,840
» Motion carries.

3143
01:59:58,080 --> 02:00:01,840
» Okay.

3144
01:59:59,840 --> 02:00:03,040
Second item on the motion agenda is

3145
02:00:01,840 --> 02:00:04,960
approval of the memorandum

3146
02:00:03,040 --> 02:00:05,679
understanding. Uh Mr. R, you want to go

3147
02:00:04,960 --> 02:00:07,440
and read that one off?

3148
02:00:05,679 --> 02:00:10,080
» Sure. Yes. And I'll be real brief in

3149
02:00:07,440 --> 02:00:11,599
this. So basically this is a em uh anou

3150
02:00:10,080 --> 02:00:16,639
that's been under discussion for some

3151
02:00:11,599 --> 02:00:22,400
time with the uh uh fire union uh as to

3152
02:00:16,639 --> 02:00:25,119
how do we get better at basically um

3153
02:00:22,400 --> 02:00:27,199
recruitment uh to Mr. Lo's comments

3154
02:00:25,119 --> 02:00:29,840
earlier about recruitment being able to

3155
02:00:27,199 --> 02:00:32,639
work with under the current contract our

3156
02:00:29,840 --> 02:00:34,320
hands are tied, cuffed, whatever on

3157
02:00:32,639 --> 02:00:37,599
reimbursements

3158
02:00:34,320 --> 02:00:39,840
uh for um or to pay for medical school.

3159
02:00:37,599 --> 02:00:41,840
Uh that is a significant recruitment

3160
02:00:39,840 --> 02:00:43,360
tool and we are basically fighting a

3161
02:00:41,840 --> 02:00:45,280
recruitment battle one hand behind our

3162
02:00:43,360 --> 02:00:48,000
back with that. Those two gentlemen

3163
02:00:45,280 --> 02:00:51,040
tonight came here in spite of that. But

3164
02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:54,719
I think that thisou addresses that. It

3165
02:00:51,040 --> 02:00:57,119
puts significant, you know, rules around

3166
02:00:54,719 --> 02:00:58,800
uh being able to pay for that, making it

3167
02:00:57,119 --> 02:01:01,599
a term and condition of employment,

3168
02:00:58,800 --> 02:01:03,840
extending pro probationary periods to

3169
02:01:01,599 --> 02:01:06,400
where they have to go get it, uh making

3170
02:01:03,840 --> 02:01:08,639
them ineligible for any other uh tuition

3171
02:01:06,400 --> 02:01:10,960
reimbursement for the duration of that

3172
02:01:08,639 --> 02:01:13,520
period. And it gives us a tool basically

3173
02:01:10,960 --> 02:01:15,679
to be able to hire EMTs, get them into

3174
02:01:13,520 --> 02:01:18,320
the system, get them trained, and then

3175
02:01:15,679 --> 02:01:20,800
it also has a clawback in that if they

3176
02:01:18,320 --> 02:01:22,480
leave us prior to so many years of

3177
02:01:20,800 --> 02:01:24,320
service. I appreciate the chief working

3178
02:01:22,480 --> 02:01:27,440
really hard with the fire union on on

3179
02:01:24,320 --> 02:01:29,679
negotiating this and I think while it

3180
02:01:27,440 --> 02:01:32,400
will cost us a little bit of money to

3181
02:01:29,679 --> 02:01:33,599
put people through uh medical school, I

3182
02:01:32,400 --> 02:01:36,320
think it's going they're going to be our

3183
02:01:33,599 --> 02:01:38,960
people and you know we'll be able to

3184
02:01:36,320 --> 02:01:41,760
build the culture from within and so

3185
02:01:38,960 --> 02:01:42,400
it's good. Okay. Any questions for Mr.

3186
02:01:41,760 --> 02:01:42,719
Wright?

3187
02:01:42,400 --> 02:01:44,159
» No.

3188
02:01:42,719 --> 02:01:45,440
» No. Okay. Gentlemen, entertain a motion

3189
02:01:44,159 --> 02:01:48,400
for the approval of the memorandum of

3190
02:01:45,440 --> 02:01:50,400
understanding for the IAFF local 30

3191
02:01:48,400 --> 02:01:51,199
3412. So moved.

3192
02:01:50,400 --> 02:01:53,440
» Second.

3193
02:01:51,199 --> 02:01:54,960
» Any discussion? Mr. Camber, roll call.

3194
02:01:53,440 --> 02:01:55,679
» Mr. Becker.

3195
02:01:54,960 --> 02:01:56,400
» Yes.

3196
02:01:55,679 --> 02:01:57,040
» Mr. Lo.

3197
02:01:56,400 --> 02:01:58,159
» Yes.

3198
02:01:57,040 --> 02:01:58,560
» Mr. Dills.

3199
02:01:58,159 --> 02:01:59,440
» Yes.

3200
02:01:58,560 --> 02:02:00,880
» Motion carries.

3201
02:01:59,440 --> 02:02:04,400
» Okay. Next one is the approval of the

3202
02:02:00,880 --> 02:02:05,520
2020 uh tax incentive review council. Uh

3203
02:02:04,400 --> 02:02:08,080
Mr. Rank, go ahead, sir.

3204
02:02:05,520 --> 02:02:11,760
» Yeah. It's just a uh uh we were at the

3205
02:02:08,080 --> 02:02:13,360
TIRC. They recommended uh to continue.

3206
02:02:11,760 --> 02:02:15,360
Uh we have to accept their

3207
02:02:13,360 --> 02:02:18,480
recommendation. So this is simp simply a

3208
02:02:15,360 --> 02:02:20,719
statutory uh requirement as per section

3209
02:02:18,480 --> 02:02:21,280
570985E.

3210
02:02:20,719 --> 02:02:22,480
So

3211
02:02:21,280 --> 02:02:24,560
» Good dealc.

3212
02:02:22,480 --> 02:02:26,960
» No problem. Gentlemen, entertain uh a

3213
02:02:24,560 --> 02:02:28,560
motion for the approval of 2026 tax

3214
02:02:26,960 --> 02:02:29,520
incentive review council as

3215
02:02:28,560 --> 02:02:30,239
recommendation.

3216
02:02:29,520 --> 02:02:31,119
» So moved.

3217
02:02:30,239 --> 02:02:33,119
» Second.

3218
02:02:31,119 --> 02:02:34,080
» Mr. Campbell. Roll call.

3219
02:02:33,119 --> 02:02:34,560
» Mr. Becker.

3220
02:02:34,080 --> 02:02:35,280
» Yes.

3221
02:02:34,560 --> 02:02:35,679
» Mr. Lo.

3222
02:02:35,280 --> 02:02:36,480
» Yes.

3223
02:02:35,679 --> 02:02:36,800
» Mr. Dills.

3224
02:02:36,480 --> 02:02:37,840
» Yes.

3225
02:02:36,800 --> 02:02:40,719
» Motion carries.

3226
02:02:37,840 --> 02:02:41,760
» All right. Uh legislative agenda. Uh

3227
02:02:40,719 --> 02:02:42,719
this is a new Senate Baitment

3228
02:02:41,760 --> 02:02:43,920
resolution. Gentlemen, I'm going to read

3229
02:02:42,719 --> 02:02:46,159
off all these addresses and we'll make

3230
02:02:43,920 --> 02:02:48,400
it under one motion if no one objects to

3231
02:02:46,159 --> 02:02:50,639
that. Perfect. Uh gentlemen, I entertain

3232
02:02:48,400 --> 02:02:52,719
a motion for the approval of resolution

3233
02:02:50,639 --> 02:02:55,119
2026-52,

3234
02:02:52,719 --> 02:02:56,320
nuisance abatement resolution. Uh it's

3235
02:02:55,119 --> 02:02:58,239
authorization of abatement for the

3236
02:02:56,320 --> 02:03:00,159
removal and vegetation of noxious weeds,

3237
02:02:58,239 --> 02:03:04,639
garbage, trash, and debris pursuant to

3238
02:03:00,159 --> 02:03:07,679
section 505.87 of OC. First one is 439

3239
02:03:04,639 --> 02:03:10,719
Hilltop Drive, Cincinnati, 45244.

3240
02:03:07,679 --> 02:03:14,639
PIN number is 414121.010.

3241
02:03:10,719 --> 02:03:17,040
010. Uh, second one is 513 Wesley Drive,

3242
02:03:14,639 --> 02:03:20,040
Cincinnati 45244. Pin number is

3243
02:03:17,040 --> 02:03:20,040
414222.004.

3244
02:03:20,560 --> 02:03:27,440
Third one is 640 Charwood Drive,

3245
02:03:23,280 --> 02:03:29,840
Cincinnati 45244. Pin number is 414146.

3246
02:03:27,440 --> 02:03:32,560
B is in Bravo 040.

3247
02:03:29,840 --> 02:03:36,800
Uh, fourth one is 661 Parkland Drive,

3248
02:03:32,560 --> 02:03:40,800
Cincinnati 45244. Pin number is 413105.

3249
02:03:36,800 --> 02:03:44,080
G is in golf 158. Fifth one is 685

3250
02:03:40,800 --> 02:03:45,920
Charwood Drive, Cincinnati 45244. Pin

3251
02:03:44,080 --> 02:03:49,760
number is 414146.

3252
02:03:45,920 --> 02:03:52,800
A is an alpha 1 190. Number six is 989

3253
02:03:49,760 --> 02:03:56,400
Joyce Drive, Betavia 4103.

3254
02:03:52,800 --> 02:03:59,440
45103. Pin number is 414109 C is in

3255
02:03:56,400 --> 02:04:02,800
Charlie 040. A is an alpha. Number seven

3256
02:03:59,440 --> 02:04:04,480
is 1182 Old State Route 74. Betavia

3257
02:04:02,800 --> 02:04:07,760
45103.

3258
02:04:04,480 --> 02:04:09,840
PIN number is 413103. A is an alpha.

3259
02:04:07,760 --> 02:04:12,639
A40.

3260
02:04:09,840 --> 02:04:16,000
Number eight, 4262 Zeer Drive,

3261
02:04:12,639 --> 02:04:19,280
Cincinnati 45244. Pin number is 413214.

3262
02:04:16,000 --> 02:04:23,040
A is in Alpha 1 196. Number nine is 4

3263
02:04:19,280 --> 02:04:26,000
4325 Terrace Drive, Cincinnati 45245 4.

3264
02:04:23,040 --> 02:04:28,639
Pin number is 4145.

3265
02:04:26,000 --> 02:04:31,119
B is in Bravo 028. And the last one on

3266
02:04:28,639 --> 02:04:36,480
this list, 4875 Powder Horn Drive,

3267
02:04:31,119 --> 02:04:38,880
Cincinnati 45244. Pin number is 415315.

3268
02:04:36,480 --> 02:04:39,840
D is in Delta 016.

3269
02:04:38,880 --> 02:04:40,480
» So moved.

3270
02:04:39,840 --> 02:04:42,960
» Second.

3271
02:04:40,480 --> 02:04:43,760
» Any discussion? Mr. Campbell. Roll call.

3272
02:04:42,960 --> 02:04:44,159
» Mr. Becker.

3273
02:04:43,760 --> 02:04:44,960
» Yes.

3274
02:04:44,159 --> 02:04:45,440
» Mr. Lo.

3275
02:04:44,960 --> 02:04:46,320
» Yes.

3276
02:04:45,440 --> 02:04:46,719
» Mr. Dills.

3277
02:04:46,320 --> 02:04:48,080
» Yes.

3278
02:04:46,719 --> 02:04:50,159
» Motion carries.

3279
02:04:48,080 --> 02:04:53,280
» It's a lot to read, gentlemen. The uh

3280
02:04:50,159 --> 02:04:54,719
Okay. Uh same thing. Uh different

3281
02:04:53,280 --> 02:04:56,080
resolution. Uh gentlemen, obtain a

3282
02:04:54,719 --> 02:04:57,920
motion for the approval. Resolution

3283
02:04:56,080 --> 02:05:00,960
2026-53,

3284
02:04:57,920 --> 02:05:05,280
nuisance abatement resolution for

3285
02:05:00,960 --> 02:05:07,280
557 Glenrose Lane, Cincinnati 45244. PIN

3286
02:05:05,280 --> 02:05:09,920
number is 414101

3287
02:05:07,280 --> 02:05:10,800
A is an alpha 0000 H is in Henry

3288
02:05:09,920 --> 02:05:14,239
» So move

3289
02:05:10,800 --> 02:05:14,639
» Second any discussion Mr. Campbell roll

3290
02:05:14,239 --> 02:05:15,599
call

3291
02:05:14,639 --> 02:05:16,000
» Mr. Becker

3292
02:05:15,599 --> 02:05:17,040
» Yes

3293
02:05:16,000 --> 02:05:17,440
» Mr. Lo

3294
02:05:17,040 --> 02:05:18,320
» Yes

3295
02:05:17,440 --> 02:05:18,639
» Mr. Dills

3296
02:05:18,320 --> 02:05:19,440
» Yes

3297
02:05:18,639 --> 02:05:20,960
» Motion carries

3298
02:05:19,440 --> 02:05:22,080
» All right very last one of these uh

3299
02:05:20,960 --> 02:05:24,480
gentlemen obtain a motion for the

3300
02:05:22,080 --> 02:05:27,040
approval resolution 2026-54

3301
02:05:24,480 --> 02:05:30,480
nuisance vehicle abatement resolution uh

3302
02:05:27,040 --> 02:05:35,119
for uh move junk vehicles pursuant to

3303
02:05:30,480 --> 02:05:39,840
505.871 871 at 1182 Old State Road Route

3304
02:05:35,119 --> 02:05:41,599
74 Betavia 45103. PIN number is 413103

3305
02:05:39,840 --> 02:05:42,320
as an alpha 140.

3306
02:05:41,599 --> 02:05:43,040
» So moved.

3307
02:05:42,320 --> 02:05:45,119
» Second.

3308
02:05:43,040 --> 02:05:46,000
» Any discussion? Mr. Campbell. Roll call.

3309
02:05:45,119 --> 02:05:46,400
» Mr. Becker.

3310
02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:47,199
» Yes.

3311
02:05:46,400 --> 02:05:47,520
» Mr. Lo.

3312
02:05:47,199 --> 02:05:48,239
» Yes.

3313
02:05:47,520 --> 02:05:48,560
» Mr. Dills.

3314
02:05:48,239 --> 02:05:49,520
» Yes.

3315
02:05:48,560 --> 02:05:53,280
» Motion carries.

3316
02:05:49,520 --> 02:05:56,000
» Okay. And uh resolution 2026-55.

3317
02:05:53,280 --> 02:05:57,920
Uh Mr. Right. Any explanation on just a

3318
02:05:56,000 --> 02:06:00,000
billing issue with Civic Plus? I mean,

3319
02:05:57,920 --> 02:06:02,639
we run into this every year and it's I

3320
02:06:00,000 --> 02:06:04,719
mean, they provide a service and this is

3321
02:06:02,639 --> 02:06:05,920
kind of housekeeping. Is that correct,

3322
02:06:04,719 --> 02:06:06,480
Mr. Campbell?

3323
02:06:05,920 --> 02:06:06,880
» Yes.

3324
02:06:06,480 --> 02:06:08,159
» Yep.

3325
02:06:06,880 --> 02:06:09,760
» Yep. Yep. Just housekeeping. All right.

3326
02:06:08,159 --> 02:06:11,920
Uh, gentlemen, a motion for the approval

3327
02:06:09,760 --> 02:06:13,360
resolution 2026-55,

3328
02:06:11,920 --> 02:06:14,000
then announce certificate for Civic

3329
02:06:13,360 --> 02:06:15,280
Plus.

3330
02:06:14,000 --> 02:06:17,119
» So, move.

3331
02:06:15,280 --> 02:06:18,320
» Second. I do have point of discussion.

3332
02:06:17,119 --> 02:06:20,159
» Okay. Discussion.

3333
02:06:18,320 --> 02:06:24,159
» Uh, hey, Mr. Wright. They've they've

3334
02:06:20,159 --> 02:06:25,520
been great. Uh when we relaunch the

3335
02:06:24,159 --> 02:06:26,960
whole township infrastructure and

3336
02:06:25,520 --> 02:06:28,320
website, transparency, accountability,

3337
02:06:26,960 --> 02:06:30,719
communication,

3338
02:06:28,320 --> 02:06:33,360
» Is there um any new product lines that

3339
02:06:30,719 --> 02:06:35,840
you're getting out of them for uh our

3340
02:06:33,360 --> 02:06:37,840
public our public data that we already

3341
02:06:35,840 --> 02:06:39,840
have and we maintain like such a large

3342
02:06:37,840 --> 02:06:41,840
portion of it that if a resident wants

3343
02:06:39,840 --> 02:06:45,520
to ask a question about Union Township

3344
02:06:41,840 --> 02:06:46,880
records, an AI related response can take

3345
02:06:45,520 --> 02:06:48,719
them directly to that.

3346
02:06:46,880 --> 02:06:51,119
» I I have not seen that yet. We're happy

3347
02:06:48,719 --> 02:06:53,360
to investigate that more. Uh I know that

3348
02:06:51,119 --> 02:06:57,040
we were finally able to resolve the

3349
02:06:53,360 --> 02:06:59,280
Cclick fix issue which is which is that

3350
02:06:57,040 --> 02:07:02,000
AI is that have some AI in it? Okay,

3351
02:06:59,280 --> 02:07:04,719
that is good. Oh, that's good. Uh so uh

3352
02:07:02,000 --> 02:07:05,760
we had an issue with Apple app the Apple

3353
02:07:04,719 --> 02:07:07,440
app.

3354
02:07:05,760 --> 02:07:09,199
» We were finally able to resolve that

3355
02:07:07,440 --> 02:07:11,119
with Apple. So we just had training on

3356
02:07:09,199 --> 02:07:13,599
that. That'll replace the kind of

3357
02:07:11,119 --> 02:07:15,199
archaic request tracker. Some people

3358
02:07:13,599 --> 02:07:18,159
like it, some people hate it. It's

3359
02:07:15,199 --> 02:07:20,719
pretty clunky. So Cclick fix is when are

3360
02:07:18,159 --> 02:07:23,280
we implementing? in the next few days.

3361
02:07:20,719 --> 02:07:25,840
» Okay. So, that has been a positive. And

3362
02:07:23,280 --> 02:07:27,599
I did did see something that uh they

3363
02:07:25,840 --> 02:07:29,280
send you notices when you're kind of in

3364
02:07:27,599 --> 02:07:31,599
the back end of the website about

3365
02:07:29,280 --> 02:07:33,440
accessibility uh and things. We have

3366
02:07:31,599 --> 02:07:35,920
some accessibility deadlines that we

3367
02:07:33,440 --> 02:07:37,760
have to make meet. So, uh that was

3368
02:07:35,920 --> 02:07:39,679
helpful. And I I guess they have some

3369
02:07:37,760 --> 02:07:42,239
backend tools that kind of alert you.

3370
02:07:39,679 --> 02:07:43,760
I'm sure it's sales growth oriented if I

3371
02:07:42,239 --> 02:07:46,079
had to guess because it's something else

3372
02:07:43,760 --> 02:07:48,800
they can help us with. Uh but at the end

3373
02:07:46,079 --> 02:07:50,560
of the day, um it's been a positive. I I

3374
02:07:48,800 --> 02:07:52,320
I like the platform. It's easy to add

3375
02:07:50,560 --> 02:07:55,599
it, easy to modify.

3376
02:07:52,320 --> 02:07:57,280
» Okay. All right. Thank you. Again, all

3377
02:07:55,599 --> 02:07:59,440
all that concept comes out of the fact

3378
02:07:57,280 --> 02:07:59,920
of of efficiencies and

3379
02:07:59,440 --> 02:08:01,920
» Sure.

3380
02:07:59,920 --> 02:08:04,079
» Um wanting to maintain a high level

3381
02:08:01,920 --> 02:08:09,199
quality uh for the residents and

3382
02:08:04,079 --> 02:08:10,960
constituents and um it's just uh

3383
02:08:09,199 --> 02:08:13,280
what direction we need to be looking at

3384
02:08:10,960 --> 02:08:14,880
for the maximum return on investments.

3385
02:08:13,280 --> 02:08:16,960
Thank you.

3386
02:08:14,880 --> 02:08:18,639
» Discussion. Good. Mr. K. Roll call.

3387
02:08:16,960 --> 02:08:18,960
» Mr. Becker. Yes, Mr. Lo.

3388
02:08:18,639 --> 02:08:19,599
» Yes,

3389
02:08:18,960 --> 02:08:19,920
» Mr. Dills.

3390
02:08:19,599 --> 02:08:20,639
» Yes.

3391
02:08:19,920 --> 02:08:21,760
» Motion carries.

3392
02:08:20,639 --> 02:08:24,239
» All right, gentlemen. Last item on the

3393
02:08:21,760 --> 02:08:26,960
agenda is a motion for the approval of

3394
02:08:24,239 --> 02:08:28,880
resolution 2026-56

3395
02:08:26,960 --> 02:08:32,719
funds custodian agreement with the Union

3396
02:08:28,880 --> 02:08:33,440
Township New Committee Authority.

3397
02:08:32,719 --> 02:08:36,079
» So moved.

3398
02:08:33,440 --> 02:08:36,480
» Second. Any discussion? Mr. Kimber. Roll

3399
02:08:36,079 --> 02:08:37,280
call.

3400
02:08:36,480 --> 02:08:37,679
» Mr. Becker.

3401
02:08:37,280 --> 02:08:38,560
» Yes.

3402
02:08:37,679 --> 02:08:38,880
» Mr. Lo.

3403
02:08:38,560 --> 02:08:39,840
» Yes.

3404
02:08:38,880 --> 02:08:40,239
» Mr. Dills.

3405
02:08:39,840 --> 02:08:41,280
» Yes.

3406
02:08:40,239 --> 02:08:42,880
» Motion carries.

3407
02:08:41,280 --> 02:08:44,639
» Okay. Comments from the board. Vice

3408
02:08:42,880 --> 02:08:46,960
Chairman, start with you. Go ahead, sir.

3409
02:08:44,639 --> 02:08:48,239
Uh so

3410
02:08:46,960 --> 02:08:50,560
yeah, what I want to just kind of

3411
02:08:48,239 --> 02:08:53,440
briefly address, so it was um early

3412
02:08:50,560 --> 02:08:56,159
August I put out on social media that uh

3413
02:08:53,440 --> 02:08:58,000
I had an emergency room visit out at um

3414
02:08:56,159 --> 02:09:00,239
Claremont Mercy. So I just wanted to

3415
02:08:58,000 --> 02:09:01,599
give kind of a a brief update on what

3416
02:09:00,239 --> 02:09:03,440
what's going on with that. So what

3417
02:09:01,599 --> 02:09:05,360
happened was I had a number of symptoms

3418
02:09:03,440 --> 02:09:07,840
that were

3419
02:09:05,360 --> 02:09:09,760
um mimicking that of a heart attack. So

3420
02:09:07,840 --> 02:09:11,520
it turned out it was not fortunately,

3421
02:09:09,760 --> 02:09:13,360
which begs the question then what was

3422
02:09:11,520 --> 02:09:17,360
it? Well, it could be any number of

3423
02:09:13,360 --> 02:09:20,480
things. So, since then, I had a um CT

3424
02:09:17,360 --> 02:09:23,280
angiogram that appeared to be a clean

3425
02:09:20,480 --> 02:09:24,800
reading. Uh this evening, I was kind of

3426
02:09:23,280 --> 02:09:26,239
running late getting here if I was going

3427
02:09:24,800 --> 02:09:30,960
to make it on time to the meeting or

3428
02:09:26,239 --> 02:09:32,880
not, but I had a um cardiac MRI, so

3429
02:09:30,960 --> 02:09:34,239
they're investigating some things. Uh

3430
02:09:32,880 --> 02:09:35,679
but with the old ticker, see what's

3431
02:09:34,239 --> 02:09:39,360
going on in there because we we still

3432
02:09:35,679 --> 02:09:41,679
don't know. Um

3433
02:09:39,360 --> 02:09:44,000
Mr. Dit mentioned the uh Revolutionary

3434
02:09:41,679 --> 02:09:45,440
War move monument. I'm not gonna be able

3435
02:09:44,000 --> 02:09:47,280
to make it to that event. I have a

3436
02:09:45,440 --> 02:09:49,440
doctor's appointment uh that that

3437
02:09:47,280 --> 02:09:51,040
morning. So anyway, that's really the

3438
02:09:49,440 --> 02:09:53,599
update on what's going on with me. I

3439
02:09:51,040 --> 02:09:55,199
mean, uh you know, I'm feeling fine and

3440
02:09:53,599 --> 02:09:57,440
uh you know, things are getting checked

3441
02:09:55,199 --> 02:09:57,920
out and so far so good. That's all I

3442
02:09:57,440 --> 02:09:59,679
have. Chairman,

3443
02:09:57,920 --> 02:10:02,560
» It's incredible. Thanks, John, for the

3444
02:09:59,679 --> 02:10:05,599
update. Mr. Lo, sure.

3445
02:10:02,560 --> 02:10:08,159
Um, no, I just uh want to thank you guys

3446
02:10:05,599 --> 02:10:11,920
for the the discussion tonight. Uh,

3447
02:10:08,159 --> 02:10:14,719
highlighting some uh sensitive visible

3448
02:10:11,920 --> 02:10:17,199
uh items in the township uh from

3449
02:10:14,719 --> 02:10:19,280
automatic license plate readers to I

3450
02:10:17,199 --> 02:10:22,079
know we heard one gentleman speaking

3451
02:10:19,280 --> 02:10:24,320
about uh data centers and energy and

3452
02:10:22,079 --> 02:10:28,159
infrastructure. And I believe that

3453
02:10:24,320 --> 02:10:31,440
Commissioner Painter joining us is uh

3454
02:10:28,159 --> 02:10:34,800
taking a leadership role uh as a senior

3455
02:10:31,440 --> 02:10:37,679
advisor I believe uh to EPA uh

3456
02:10:34,800 --> 02:10:39,280
administrator Lee Zelden on local

3457
02:10:37,679 --> 02:10:41,040
governments essentially. I don't know

3458
02:10:39,280 --> 02:10:44,239
the exact title but local governments,

3459
02:10:41,040 --> 02:10:46,400
state governments uh handling uh

3460
02:10:44,239 --> 02:10:49,040
constituent concerns and addressing

3461
02:10:46,400 --> 02:10:51,440
them. Um so you know I think that this

3462
02:10:49,040 --> 02:10:53,440
is a continued evolution. We're going to

3463
02:10:51,440 --> 02:10:56,159
see a symptom of technology like

3464
02:10:53,440 --> 02:10:57,599
automatic license plate readers. Uh

3465
02:10:56,159 --> 02:11:01,840
we're going to see different symptoms

3466
02:10:57,599 --> 02:11:07,119
and forms um of a greater issue. Uh data

3467
02:11:01,840 --> 02:11:09,840
centers, energy uh closed loop water

3468
02:11:07,119 --> 02:11:12,400
centers that that provide power back to

3469
02:11:09,840 --> 02:11:15,280
the grid uh that bring energy costs

3470
02:11:12,400 --> 02:11:17,679
down. Um but it's also very interesting

3471
02:11:15,280 --> 02:11:21,280
just to hear everyone's perspectives

3472
02:11:17,679 --> 02:11:23,920
because um at the heart of all this

3473
02:11:21,280 --> 02:11:27,040
they're at least I have the perspective

3474
02:11:23,920 --> 02:11:29,440
and sentiment that

3475
02:11:27,040 --> 02:11:32,560
those in this world that want to see our

3476
02:11:29,440 --> 02:11:33,920
country fail want to exploit

3477
02:11:32,560 --> 02:11:36,480
some of our greatest strengths and

3478
02:11:33,920 --> 02:11:39,440
that's our first amendment and they seed

3479
02:11:36,480 --> 02:11:43,679
misinformation campaigns um and that can

3480
02:11:39,440 --> 02:11:46,800
be from um things like compute power and

3481
02:11:43,679 --> 02:11:49,199
quantum uh that helps us prevent, you

3482
02:11:46,800 --> 02:11:53,440
know, hypersonic attacks on our our

3483
02:11:49,199 --> 02:11:54,880
great cities. Um all the way down to you

3484
02:11:53,440 --> 02:11:57,760
can see some of the discussion that

3485
02:11:54,880 --> 02:12:00,159
happens with uh automatic license plate

3486
02:11:57,760 --> 02:12:04,400
readers and where we have to balance and

3487
02:12:00,159 --> 02:12:07,360
govern between a board with limited

3488
02:12:04,400 --> 02:12:09,520
resources, police officers,

3489
02:12:07,360 --> 02:12:11,920
um and wanting to do what's right by the

3490
02:12:09,520 --> 02:12:15,760
residents. So, I just thank you guys for

3491
02:12:11,920 --> 02:12:18,000
for the discussion and um look forward

3492
02:12:15,760 --> 02:12:20,800
to to getting the date set for the town

3493
02:12:18,000 --> 02:12:22,480
hall and how that continued feedback uh

3494
02:12:20,800 --> 02:12:24,639
continues to mature and and move

3495
02:12:22,480 --> 02:12:26,880
forward. So,

3496
02:12:24,639 --> 02:12:29,760
uh and I did just draft that on the

3497
02:12:26,880 --> 02:12:35,920
spot. So, uh I had a little bit of help

3498
02:12:29,760 --> 02:12:37,840
uh with uh a friend Claude, but yeah,

3499
02:12:35,920 --> 02:12:40,320
» I like Claude, too.

3500
02:12:37,840 --> 02:12:41,920
» I use it quite a bit. there. Well, I'm

3501
02:12:40,320 --> 02:12:43,599
glad you're adopting. I wanted to

3502
02:12:41,920 --> 02:12:46,079
actually plant that because that is my

3503
02:12:43,599 --> 02:12:48,320
push to our department heads and all

3504
02:12:46,079 --> 02:12:50,560
employees and at the same rate where we

3505
02:12:48,320 --> 02:12:52,079
can make sure we're safeguarding that or

3506
02:12:50,560 --> 02:12:53,920
I don't safeguard's the right word, but

3507
02:12:52,079 --> 02:12:56,079
put the right rails in place because

3508
02:12:53,920 --> 02:12:58,560
this is going to be the future. John,

3509
02:12:56,079 --> 02:13:01,599
you're real deep in economics. You know

3510
02:12:58,560 --> 02:13:04,719
that our our birth rate is down, right?

3511
02:13:01,599 --> 02:13:07,119
Death rate is up. So, 10, 20, 30 years,

3512
02:13:04,719 --> 02:13:10,159
we talk about our our future and our

3513
02:13:07,119 --> 02:13:12,159
kids. We don't have the same manpower

3514
02:13:10,159 --> 02:13:14,560
replacing manpower we have today. We all

3515
02:13:12,159 --> 02:13:17,599
individually have to do more if we want

3516
02:13:14,560 --> 02:13:21,119
to have the same quality of living

3517
02:13:17,599 --> 02:13:23,679
or quality is going to drop.

3518
02:13:21,119 --> 02:13:26,480
Okay.

3519
02:13:23,679 --> 02:13:28,719
The uh Mr. Penn, congratulations on the

3520
02:13:26,480 --> 02:13:30,960
pure plant last month. Big big deal for

3521
02:13:28,719 --> 02:13:34,000
the county. So, congratulations on that.

3522
02:13:30,960 --> 02:13:36,239
Um gentlemen, you both are aware,

3523
02:13:34,000 --> 02:13:37,840
everyone's aware that uh Costco finally

3524
02:13:36,239 --> 02:13:39,599
submitted their plants. That's huge for

3525
02:13:37,840 --> 02:13:44,960
our township in Eastgate. I'm excited

3526
02:13:39,599 --> 02:13:46,239
for it. And um lastly is the um yeah, I

3527
02:13:44,960 --> 02:13:47,599
we it's been a while since we had a war

3528
02:13:46,239 --> 02:13:49,199
concession. I'm looking forward to it.

3529
02:13:47,599 --> 02:13:50,239
It'll be it'll be some good discussion.

3530
02:13:49,199 --> 02:13:54,560
So be good to hear back from the

3531
02:13:50,239 --> 02:13:57,760
residents. Um okay, upcoming events. Uh

3532
02:13:54,560 --> 02:13:59,760
our Union Township uh zoning commission

3533
02:13:57,760 --> 02:14:02,000
uh will meet Wednesday, September 23rd

3534
02:13:59,760 --> 02:14:03,199
here, right here at 7 PM. Union Township

3535
02:14:02,000 --> 02:14:05,040
Board of Zoning Appeals will meet

3536
02:14:03,199 --> 02:14:07,360
Thursday, October 1st, right here at 7

3537
02:14:05,040 --> 02:14:10,800
PM. Our next regular meeting is October

3538
02:14:07,360 --> 02:14:12,400
13th uh at uh right here at 6 PM. Uh

3539
02:14:10,800 --> 02:14:14,000
township office will be closed Monday,

3540
02:14:12,400 --> 02:14:15,920
October 12th in observance of Columbus

3541
02:14:14,000 --> 02:14:18,480
Day. The last farmers market of the

3542
02:14:15,920 --> 02:14:20,079
season will be f uh this Friday, 400 pm

3543
02:14:18,480 --> 02:14:22,480
uh to 7 p.m. right here at the Civic

3544
02:14:20,079 --> 02:14:24,400
Center campus. Our annual Mount Mariah

3545
02:14:22,480 --> 02:14:28,000
Cemetery lantern lighting is Saturday,

3546
02:14:24,400 --> 02:14:30,239
September 19th from 5 to 7:30 p.m. Union

3547
02:14:28,000 --> 02:14:33,119
Township fireworks celebration is held

3548
02:14:30,239 --> 02:14:35,119
Saturday, September 26th. Uh Mr. Rebecca

3549
02:14:33,119 --> 02:14:36,800
will try to cater to your early bedtime.

3550
02:14:35,119 --> 02:14:38,639
And live music will be will begin at

3551
02:14:36,800 --> 02:14:40,480
RJ's at 5:00 pm and a touch of truck

3552
02:14:38,639 --> 02:14:42,639
event will begin at 5:00 pm. Inflatables

3553
02:14:40,480 --> 02:14:45,360
for the kids and then fireworks will

3554
02:14:42,639 --> 02:14:47,360
begin right around 8:45 pending Mr.

3555
02:14:45,360 --> 02:14:49,679
Becker's approval.

3556
02:14:47,360 --> 02:14:51,199
and Fire Department's annual open house

3557
02:14:49,679 --> 02:14:53,280
to kick off National Fire Prevention

3558
02:14:51,199 --> 02:14:56,320
Week will be held Sunday, October 4th

3559
02:14:53,280 --> 02:14:59,520
from 11 to 1:00 p.m. at Station 51

3560
02:14:56,320 --> 02:15:00,560
located at 80 860 Kluff Pike. Uh Union

3561
02:14:59,520 --> 02:15:01,679
Township Police Department invites

3562
02:15:00,560 --> 02:15:03,679
residents and local businesses to an

3563
02:15:01,679 --> 02:15:05,360
open house Saturday, October 10th uh

3564
02:15:03,679 --> 02:15:07,599
from noon to 4 p.m. Police Department

3565
02:15:05,360 --> 02:15:09,840
building is located at 4312 Glesty

3566
02:15:07,599 --> 02:15:11,760
Withersville Road. Uh Union Township Sip

3567
02:15:09,840 --> 02:15:14,400
and Shop will be held Saturday, October

3568
02:15:11,760 --> 02:15:16,719
17th from noon to 4 p.m. right here at

3569
02:15:14,400 --> 02:15:18,960
the Civic Center campus. trick-or- treat

3570
02:15:16,719 --> 02:15:22,000
uh for Halloween which is Saturday the

3571
02:15:18,960 --> 02:15:25,040
30 October 31st from 6:00 to 8:00 pm.

3572
02:15:22,000 --> 02:15:26,960
And last one is our next CPR AED

3573
02:15:25,040 --> 02:15:28,639
training offered by our Union Township

3574
02:15:26,960 --> 02:15:31,040
Fire Department will be held this

3575
02:15:28,639 --> 02:15:34,639
Saturday September 12th from 9:00 a.m.

3576
02:15:31,040 --> 02:15:36,400
to 1 p.m. Uh gentlemen, good meeting. I

3577
02:15:34,639 --> 02:15:37,119
want a motion for a German.

3578
02:15:36,400 --> 02:15:37,760
» So moved.

3579
02:15:37,119 --> 02:15:40,560
» Second.

3580
02:15:37,760 --> 02:15:42,159
» Any discussion? Mr. Campbell. Roll call.

3581
02:15:40,560 --> 02:15:43,119
» Longest meeting short one.

3582
02:15:42,159 --> 02:15:43,440
» Mr.

3583
02:15:43,119 --> 02:15:44,239
» Yes.

3584
02:15:43,440 --> 02:15:46,320
» Mr. Dills.

3585
02:15:44,239 --> 02:15:47,760
» Yes. 8:10 p.m.

3586
02:15:46,320 --> 02:15:49,280
» Appreciate you all attending very much.

3587
02:15:47,760 --> 02:15:52,280
Thank you. Thank you. What's that last

3588
02:15:49,280 --> 02:15:52,280
one?