I thought that was really cool. Evening, ladies and gentlemen, regular
meeting. Universal city, city council called the order for
february 18th. It is 6:31 pm call
for a quo check. Mayor time fitzpatrick. Here.
council member bowman. Here. Council member goldsby. Here. Council
member. Put here. Council member rubal. Here. Council member vaughan
second. We have a form. Okay,
we'll, uh, I've got the invocation tonight.
and then from there we'll go with the p of allegiance and then proceed. Please stand
please. Heavenly
father, as we gather today, we ask for your guidance and wisdom in our discussions.
help us listen attentively to one another with open hearts and minds, and make
decisions that reflect your will and serve the common good of our citizens.
we thank you for bringing us together and for your blessings on our time here.
amen. I pledge allegiance
to the honor of the united states of america and to the
republic for which stands, one nation under god,
invis to liberty and justice. For honor,
honor, texas. File pledge allegiance to be texas.
one state under god on in .
be seated. Uh, council has got
other duties tonight and can't be here, so call for a motion for approval. Move to
approve. Second aye. Call for, uh, vote.
council member bowman aye. Council member goldsby aye. Mayor
fitzpatrick. Aye. Council member put aye. Council, memberal
aye. Motion carried. Uh, first on the agenda
is citizens to be heard. Uh, before we move into citizens
to be heard, majority of the folks
are here for the coronado school
district. Is that correct? Anyone that's on the list? Not for the
coronado school district. Okay. With that being said, we're gonna go through with the
citizens to be heard. Um, I'd like to bring a couple of things to, to light
though, as promised, at the last meeting I was gonna discuss with, uh, superintendent,
I had a personal meeting with dr. Fields superintendent of, uh,
judson, isd, and he is in agreement to have
a town hall meeting, yet had, in fact, he was in planning one. I have sent
personal invitations to each of the council members, inviting them to the town hall meeting,
which is on the 24th at coronado in the dining in the, uh, cafeteria
at 6:30 pm I will be there. Uh, I
encourage you to go to the regular school board meeting, which is
february 20th, thursday night, and at the location of that one
is the judson, uh, school board room. The reason why I'm asking
you to do this, the is imperative that you get your
word heard by the board members of the judson, isd
and the count and the, uh, uh, superintendent staff.
they're the ones that are gonna be making the decision. We can go in with any type of
a, of a comment, negative or positive. It has no sway. We
have no sway on the school board. Uh, your vote is the one that put those
school board members in there. So with that, we are gonna go ahead and
we're gonna call up. And, um, you please, uh, each one try
to come forward with, uh, additional information, not just repeating the same thing if
at all possible, uh, we are limited your, uh, speech to, uh, three
minutes and we're gonna hear it. We've only got, uh, about, uh, six, seven
people signed up. So we'll hear everyone that wants to speak
and unfortunately we're not gonna be able to discuss it with you. Uh, robert
whiting, you come.
state your name and address. Yes, sir. My name is robert whiting. I currently
reside at 3 2 3 madrid drive in coronado village.
I thank you for this opportunity to be heard. We are here tonight to represent the save
our neighborhood committee, a group of taxpayers and voters primarily from
the coronado village community. We are concerned that allowing the judge and
ic to repurpose the coronado village elementary school into
a disciplinary alternative education program will impact our resident
safety, decrease property values, and prevent attracting new
families into the neighborhood. In the february 4th, 2025
city council meeting, you gave us confirmation we could petition
our neighbors without a permit. To date, we have collected over 200 permits.
let me take a moment to add to what you said.
we encourage you, mayor, council members, and everybody
in this room, uh, to attend not only the town hall scheduled
for monday, but also for the justin isd board meeting because
again, it's very important we get you the chance to say a word. If we don't,
it's our fault and we didn't take the opportunity to do it. Uh, for those,
the, uh, the meeting will begin at the town hall at six 30 to seven 30,
and we humbly ask for everybody's support tonight. A few of us would
like to provide a sort of, like a 30,000 foot view, a big picture,
uh, perspective of our concerns with the potential repurposing.
specifically, we will address property values, safety and particular concerns
expressed by our neighbors and community that we found during this petition process.
more detailed information is available on our website, cve,
su do w-e-e-b-l y.com.
com encourage you to go there. We'll have a lot more detail there.
many studies show that the proximity and quality of a school has
a significant impact on the desirability of a neighborhood, which in
turn affects property value. On december 19th, 2024,
six outta seven board members from the judson independent school district voted
to closed the coronado village elementary school. The
board is now considering repurposing the existing facility,
um, and they took away the grassland notre, I'm saying coronado
village elementary school. This elementary school had a rating of six.
the, uh, j care has a rating of one, which is kind of, we're gonna lose a lot of at
traction there. Um, and finally, what I'd like to say,
um, many people we've walked around in the last couple weeks since they closed
it, they put up for sale signs. And finally, I
just wanna share a personal experience that I had. I went over and watched
the students leave, uh, j care and I was, uh,
really concerned because they leave the campus and they
disperse. Uh, there's nobody managing 'em. They go to the
qt. May I just cut by a couple more seconds, sir. Proceed. Thank you
very much. Um, they proceed and they went into the
quick trip there at the convenience store. When I walked in,
the manager was taking, telling a lot of 'em to leave because they
were loitering. And I asked him, I said, why did you tell them to leave? He said, because they
continue to come in there day after day after day. They loiter, they block the
aisles, and they also have been caught stealing. So at this
point, I'll just hand it over to my other team member and let them talk
about, uh, safety for you. Thank you very much for this effort. Thank you mr. Whi.
michelle vos.
I'm sorry, I said I was just gonna yield my time to robert. No, I don't, I don't need it.
okay, no problem. But I'll thank you michelle. Uh, james talley.
my name is james sally. I currently reside at one 30 valencia ado
village directly across the street from con village elementary school.
our purpose tonight is to share safety concerns regarding place, a disciplinary
alternative education program, specifically j care in my neighborhood.
my wife and I have lived, owned this home, coronado village, lived there since 2005. We
have other family members, including children, grandchildren, and friends resigning
in the neighborhood. The potential future home of j care is immediately surrounded
by over 35 homes and 520 plus homes around the
neighborhood. Housing families with young children and senior citizens,
no other daep program within the counties or within surrounding san antonio
area. And it has a d has a-d-e-a-p
in the residential section in that area. Everything is on the outside
or mostly placed in a commercial or urban area. So there's nothing
that's directly in the center of our neighborhood like it's supposed to, like they want it to be.
furthermore, I'm concerned about the safety, um, the type of students that
are placed in j care. The chart being this chart is also on the
judson independent school district boy, uh, um,
what's that? Sorry. But, uh, I'm concerned about the safety and, uh,
examining at the type of students in place in jk. The chart being held
as a report of the violent criminal incidents in 22 and 23 is from the
judge and isd website. It contains a number of disciplinary actions between 22
and 23 of students from judge and isd in the middle school, placing them in a converse
area and a-d-a-a-p program. Before I cite a couple of statistics,
note, this data comes from the public education information management system
encompassing all the data requested and received by the texas education agency from
all the public schools in texas. Note that they, uh, you can't obviously
see that on the small writing, but if you did come up that site, you'd be able to tell.
um, and since you do not have that, um, I'd like
to cite a couple of reasons for statistics from the report of the code, different
codes position, for example, code zero four possession
sold, used or under the influence of marijuana or other controlled substances
over 380 incidents. Code zero seven
public lewdness or exposure between 14 and 54
incidents. Code 11 brought a firearm to school or unlawful
carrying of a handgun code one eight indecency with a child
code 22 criminal mischief. Code 26, terrorist threat code
28, assault against someone other than an employee of volunteer.
that was over 400 incidents. And even after the students are
placed in j care, they continue to have serious misbehavior. Well expelled to place d-a-d-a-e-p.
many of these students since this, also known as class c felons in texas,
ti title v penal code violation crimes that are punishable by
less than five years, but no more than one year.
um, I'm next on your list and I would like to deal my time
so he can finish just a few more .
anyway, um, many of these, this is also known
as a class d felonies of texas title v penal code violations. Crimes are
punishable by less than five years, but no more than one year of prison. If this what
you want in your neighborhood of universal city, we don't, especially directly across the street
from where I live. And let me point out those with, uh, also,
let me point out those with sexual and assaultive offenses. Texas law and the universal
city ordinance, making it unlawful to be in the vehicle or remaining
in or around the area and designated a child safety zone
means public or commercial and semi-private swimming pools. State law mandates
that during their term assigned assignment of jc students are prohibited from being
pa or within 300 feet of any school district property, except that
on an alternative school, did you also know that justin isd
owns and facilitates a pool located at 5 0 6 coronado
boulevard? Well, within the 300 foot restriction next door, the
coronado village elementary school, this is an explicit violation
of state law and judson isd rules. I
wanna read what a former employee of j care reported to us.
as a former employee of judson alternative schools, I would definitely not want those
students in my neighborhood. Oesa few may have begged a bad decision.
some of them learn for their mistakes, but all the students are there because they
have been knocked, kicked out of their home campus. And not because they are good
students. Some students may be there for truancy, but most are there
for fighting drugs, weapons, they aren't building a jail
in your neighborhood. But most of these students have been in jail or awaiting trial for various things.
drugs, assault, assault with weapons.
also stated, when I was there, many were involved in drive-by shootings, other violent offenses.
one even killed his stepdad. So in closed neighborhood, this type of school
students is not a good idea. Not judging. It's my personal experience
with these students. Not all kids are beyond second chance,
but some are on their last chance. Next stop will be juvenile
justice academy, jail or prison. As bad as this may sound,
my next, uh, I'd like to bring up another. You're
coming up on three, sir. Oh, okay. It was gonna be
due with the, uh, response to the police department, but, uh,
I don't have any time for that, I guess. Thank you. I appreciate your time and, uh,
listening to us. And if you're all interested in coming up to this site, feel
free to do so. Thank you very much. Thank
you, sir. Um, ms. Beth parker.
elizabeth parker, one 11 malaga circle, universal city.
um, when I spoke to the council on february the fourth, um,
I saw the judson proposal that, uh, mr. Whiting and mr. Talley have, have, um,
explained as directly impacting universal city vision
35, uh, process. Uh, and to just
continue, uh, some additional information, um, the j care principal
said that, um, between a hundred and 120 students
attend daily at the j care program. Um,
where that to be at coronado village elementary, the, uh, the
district is proposing an immediate border with this program
for troubled youth to the 30 plus homes that surround the school,
including the 10 plus homes with rear or side entry
garages, which require backing out within inches of school
property. Judson proposes this border also to parents
and their students who swim at the judson pool. As, uh, mr. Talley said,
coronado village has no wide boulevards on two sides, just
a sidewalk and a street, and two sides have only
18 foot wide alleys. It's no more appropriate to
put this alternative school at coronado village, then it
would be to put it at france elementary in live oak, because
there's 30 houses also surrounding france. And it wouldn't
be appropriate to put it at olympia either, because there are 20
plus houses that surround that school.
and as, uh, mr. Talley, uh, stated, um, during
the term of the assignment of the students at j care, they are
prohibited from being pawn or within legal limits of any school
property except that of the alternative school. So,
if j care students are on alternative property
that is now the elementary school, what are the legal limits? When
the judson pool property is right there? Uh,
I feel like, you know, the, the judson school district has tried its best to protect
other students from the j care, from the j care students,
but, um, from because of our subdivision layout,
what protects a child who resides across
an 18 foot alley or just across the sidewalk in
a street from the students, a
child's house is not a child safety zone as defined.
so I'm asking, can universal city establish
any kind of legal limits that would prevent the j care program
from relocating to the elementary school? Uh,
I feel like uc, because of ordinance 6 0 2, has tried to
protect students in the, uh, zone, you know, in the safety
zone. But what about the child that isn't in a safety zone?
they're also at risk. Thank you.
thank you, ms. Parker. Uh, rosie stein. I was yielding my
time to her. Okay. Thank you.
and mr. Brooks? Dan brooks. Excuse
me. Me. Daniel brooks. Dan's fine.
good evening. My name is dan brooks. I am assistant superintendent at judson,
isd. Um, wanted to talk a little bit about,
uh, the repurposing of coronado village. Um, as some
have already stated, we have had meetings concerning the repurposing
of the school. Um, several of our departments within
our district did a presentation vying for space at
the school. Dep was one of those departments along with special education.
um, and then we also have some others that we've spoken to, um, that
want to, uh, be considered for coronado village as
far as their, their departments and their programs coming to, to the school.
um, what we want to do is we want to
hear from the community as far as what are your ideas, what are
the community's ideas as far as what they would like to see,
um, from coronado village? What should we repurpose it to?
and so we, um, we have created a survey that we will put on
our website that we will be asking those questions. Um, some, as I
said, some have come to the meeting, and so if you, you know, agree
with what the departments that already presented, um, you can, that there's
a question on the survey concerning that. And then there's an, an open
s an open question that asks, you know, what are your ideas, what are your suggestions as
to what you think jeff and isd should do with coronado
village? Um, I do want to state that no decision has been made at
this point. Um, as you stated, uh, mayor maxwell, the, the, the board
will vote on that to decide whether or not to, um,
make it whatever we're gonna make it. Uh, again, I I've heard all of the, the dap
talk, um, and it seems as if people think the decision has been
made already. Um, is that an option on the table? Yes, that
is an option on the table. Has that been recommended yet? No, that
has not been recommended yet. What we will do is once we have gathered all information,
we being superintendent in the cabinet, once we've gathered all of that information,
we'll then get together and decide what recommendation we want
to bring to the school board, and then the school board will vote on the
recommendation that we bring. So I'm encouraging everyone definitely to
come to the meeting on the 20th. Um, um, I'm sorry,
on the 24th, which is the, uh, the town hall meeting
there, we'll discuss and hear from the community as far as what are your ideas,
what do you want to see, um, as far as coronado village and what would you
like it to be? Um, and then from there, like I said, we will gather information
and, uh, we'll give a recommendation to the board. And from there, the board will make a
decision. But I do want to say that I, I understand the concern
should, you know, the dap be something that that is considered.
I do understand the, the concerns and, um, we are looking at
all aspects of whatever programs come that we decide on. So
just wanna make sure that everyone is, is, is up to date and understand where
we are in the process. Okay? Thank you. Thank you, mr. Brooks.
um, I want to stress, again, I encourage, I should
say, your attendance at the, uh, town hall meeting especially.
I will not be able to attend the meeting wednesday or tuesday night, uh,
thursday night on the 20th, because I will be out town at a, at, uh, that
a texas municipal lead conference. The, um,
for anyone who is going to be at the town hall meeting on the council, please let
maribel know so that we can make a announcement for possible quorum if
necessary. And with that being said,
since this be heard, it's closed out.
okay, next comes up is, uh, staff reports and discussion items. Uh, city manager
report. I have no report. Uh, uh, uh, mr. Mayor,
uh, michael's gonna come up and do a brief overview of the
fence ordinance since we changed it a year plus ago, just to give you counsel
an idea of where we are on that and how that's working out amongst the residents.
okay?
okay. Thank you, mayor council.
so we have put together a presentation to over
basically one year of the new ordinance, uh, being in effect.
and so, next slide please.
so, as you recall, uh, back in 2023 in october,
city council updated the, uh, fence ordinance
and basically came up with three buckets, uh, three different categories for,
uh, permitting. Uh, one is the $85 permit and inspection.
second is a $25 permit, which was a reduction. Uh, all permits
were $85 for fences at that time. Uh, that category was reduced
to 25, uh, dollars for major fence maintenance.
and then there's a third category, no permanent fee or inspection required.
and that was for minor fences. And so just below that, in
the second table, those columns explain what each of those categories means.
so then it's been over a year, but we looked at next
slide, please. We looked at defense data from november 1st, 2023
to october 31st, 2024. And as the table shows
with the new breakdown, we issued 112 $25
fence permits, which again was major fence repair,
uh, totaling $2,800 and then $85 fence permits. There were 25
that were issued for a total of 2125.
we did about the same that we normally do. On average, we have 135
permits. Fence permits issued a year, and during that year, we issued
137 total dollars. Our revenue brought
in was $4,925. Uh, just to put
it in perspective, uh, that would mean that if we had
not adopted the ordinance and we issued the same number of permits, that would've brought in
a revenue stream of $11,645. So we
brought in $6,720 less than we did the previous year.
next slide. So from a code compliance standpoint,
for that same year, uh, we issued, well,
we had 26 total code compliance cases. And as you see,
um, 14 folks did not obtain a permit. Um, so
we had to issue them or have them go through the normal process, and they complied.
uh, 11, uh, offenses were found to be dilapidated. And
so they went through the process to correct those infractions. And then there was one,
uh, fence that was installed as a back to back fence. Um, as you
see, uh, zero citations were issued. So that means that working
with those residents, we were able to, uh, resolve those issues.
next slide. From a variance standpoint, uh,
we did go back to 2019, uh, for the year that we were really looking
at. It's about the same as those previous, um, both
of the variance requests were for height issues, and so they were granted,
uh, their, uh, variance requests by the board of adjustment.
and that is all I have. Any questions from
the council? No.
what do you mean by back to that? I'm sorry, ma'am. We're not, that's
not audience engagement. Sorry.
thank you, mr. Mayor. Uh, michael, can, can you tell me the revenue
generated by fence permitting for new
builds developments in the city?
so do you mean new houses developments in the city?
uh, no, I cannot because we don't issue a separate permit for those. If it's for a new
development, such as crossing for a new single family, um, residence,
then that, uh, fence that's gonna be installed if a fence is installed, is
part of the building permit for that home. So it's not separate. So that's fine. Within the
building permit, that is actually a, a, a checkoff in the building
permit, yes. That
you can install on fence without a permit? No, they do have a permit
for the house, which includes the fence.
okay. A separate permit is not issued. When a new house is constructed.
a preponderance of the developers or builders will include the fence
as part of their sales package to the residence. And so they
will have it on that set of plans. It's a flat fee to
construct a house. It's the same fee whether they have a fence or not have a fence
on that residential plans. So we don't track new build fences.
so for the apartment complexes that are going up, uh, the fences are included in
those plans as well. So there's no separate permit for a fence
and fences for c five properties. What,
what regulations associated with fences for c five? If it's a new build, it's part of that package,
most likely. If it's not, it's an existing, uh, commercial,
uh, building and they wanna install a fence, then they have to get a fence permit.
so there is a regulation, however, for c five properties
to have fences when adjoining or associated with
the other neighborhoods. Is that correct? Yeah, it's in the code as you're well aware.
it is in the code, yes. Okay. Thank you.
any comments from the council? Yes, sir. What is a back to back fence,
? So a back-to-back fence is when two neighbors right
on the property line, essentially, most people install their fence for residential,
um, six inches from their lot line or on the lot line.
and then the neighbors can't get along and they want to each put up a
fence, they install them back to back. And so the reason why the
city, um, does not allow those is because generally if you have two
wooden back to back fences, it creates a rat run.
and so from a maintenance standpoint, you got a bunch of critters living back there and it's hard
to, uh, get the grass cut between. So that's
the general idea. Any other questions? Yes, ma'am. So
in the last year, have things gone smoother? Do we have
happier residents than we had when they were paying $85?
'cause it really took a lot to get that done. The council really worked on it.
so was it worth it or you feel like
well, you put me on the spot. Yeah, try generally, uh, based on the feedback,
I I, I really would say that there hasn't
been that much, um, pushback. Well, not pushback. There hasn't
been that much cheering either, is that people are gonna, there's still a $25
permit fee. So 19 april. Yeah. I gotcha.
okay. Thank you. Well,
no other questions or comments? Uh, with that, uh, council member goldsby always has
your back. Sorry, didn't resist that. Didn't resist
that. Next come back to, um, public
announcements. Uh, our announcements, I should say. Council and, uh, manager announcements.
uh, this is the area where anything that on, on the agenda that may be of a community
interest is free for free. Action. City manager. Announcement.
first, I have no announcements. Thank you. Your announcement? I have a couple of three. The,
uh, snow fest was this weekend, uh, we had great success, uh, great weather
to go with it. Uh, it started out nice and cold, ended up being nice and warm, and
I think just ticket sales were around the 5,000 mark, which was
really good. Um, uh, also just fyi, uh, meals
on wheels are, uh, in the local area. We have quite a few families
that, uh, are supported by meals on wheels, and it's not disadvantaged individuals.
there's people primarily that, uh, do not have the opportunity to have a three
square meals a day type situation. Uh, I've assisted in volunteering
in, uh, providing meals or, or delivering meals
a couple of times. Uh, mar next month march is going to be the
national meals on wheels month in the san antonio area, including, uh,
outlying areas. And they're looking for volunteers that would like
to divert. And I'm inviting the council to volunteer to
help deliver in, in during the month. Any citizens that
would like to also volunteer will be there also. I'm gonna leave this up here. We'll have it posted
on our website so that the information is available for everyone.
um, with that being said, I'll turn it over. Um, oh,
I had the, so I started council member , do you have
anything? Oh, yes. Thank you. Um, so regarding the coronado village,
I reached out to a couple of the board members. Um, and it was
interesting to see that the, uh, the two different,
uh, schools of thought on, on
what is happening back and forth, the, the play back
and forth. But I, I do urge you to go out to the meetings,
let them know, regardless of what mr. Brooks has said, um, they
need to know your feelings, the information y'all put together and presented tonight.
fantastic. That stuff is solid. That's what, that's, that's what we need
to, you need to lead with at, at those, at that meeting. Um, both
meetings. Um, make sure they, make sure they hear you, because
what they also need to understand, and I said it last council meeting,
is that judson can't really pass a bond without the support of universal
city. So as long as, as long as they understand that, I
think that, that, that's a, that's a, that's a heavy
stick to, to take with you. So there's my 2 cents. Thank you, sir.
very good. Ms. Bowman. Um, yeah, I appreciate
everyone who came out. Like I said, last time you guys came out to, I owned a house
in coronado. I lived on valencia. I lived right next to that school. I was neighbors with
actually a lot of you. So I understand. I, I plan on being at both those meetings.
I, my kind of position on it is from a fiscally financially
sound thing, I just, I think the school should be closed. I just, like I said, I,
I would be more than happy to come out and voice that opinion. I'm always for saving the taxpayers
money. And I just feel like that's a real good way to do it. So, um, like I
said, I'm gonna try to make both those meetings. I'll try to stand up and speak for you guys if they let
me. And that's about it. Yes, councilman
fest was amazing. We went in the afternoon. I couldn't believe it, but I wanna thank
you all for coming. The presentation was, was great. I love that there wasn't a lot of
repetitiveness that went on. So hopefully I'm going to plan on being there,
um, to show support and to listen. But thank you all
for coming. This is what we're about. .
yes. Thank you. I'm gonna just reiterate, fest was awesome and I appreciate
all of the efforts that went in from city staff and the volunteers. That event
would never happen without everybody throwing in and having a great time. And it was nice to
see. It was awesome to come out and walk out and watch everybody be happy. Um,
coronado village people. I also live in coronado village, so it is a topic
that's near and dear to my heart. I appreciate your passion and I appreciate your thoughtfulness
and how much effort you put into the presentation. And as lori said, I appreciate know
repeats, you know, you covered different topics. That's a great way to plan
that out. Um, I also think we've encouraged you
to go to the meetings to talk to the school board, to come to the town, um, town hall.
I would also encourage you to either call or potentially email the cabinet because if you
heard what dr. Brook, dr. Brooks said is the cabinets kind
of talking about this right now. And they're gonna make a recommendation to the school board
to vote. And so maybe you can also get in front of them before they make the
recommendation or make sure that they understand that you're talking to them as well.
um, and then I will not be in attendance, so I won't be there on thursday. 'cause I will also
be with, um, mayor maxwell in austin at the texas policy
summit. So thank you mr. Val. Yes.
the reason why I moved to coronado village was because of the elementary
school there, the safety of getting the kids, my kids to and from that school
40 years ago. I'm the proud father of
two judson valedictorians.
so basically I can, I appreciate the way
judson has provided for us in the past.
I think the moves are in directions
that are counter to residents, and I hope to
support our residents at the monday meeting.
I will be out of state for the thursday meeting, so I hope to be
there. And, um, uh, this pen, uh, will
write on a piece of paper that, uh, uh, you circulate tonight.
oh, one more, right. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Mr. Mayor.
okay. Almost forgot. . Mr. Mayor, fellow
council members, I move to change ordinance 5 8 1
y 2 0 3, uh, two three.
uh, this is the fence ordinance. The reason for the change is fence maintenance
and fence repair remain issues within our city, not
only for the aesthetics of our neighborhoods, but also for the safety,
security, and privacy of our residents. Prior councils
have made efforts to streamline our fencing ordinance and express
concerns regarding the repair or maintenance that alters the
fence, the ground clearance, uh, for stormwater runoff.
the suggested change to this ordinance preserves
the concerns of former council members and simplifies the
definition of allowable fence repair for our residents to be
in kind, repair and replacement. The ladder
removes arbitrary rules for the number of pickets and posts,
reduces the, uh, burden of permit fees for in-kind
replacement for residents and encourages fence repair
throughout our city. It simplifies the definition
of allowable fence repair. Finally,
it removes some of the time burden for inspections, uh,
uh, for which our city now contracts services,
uh, uh, uh, from, uh, develop, uh, from development
services. I specifically recommend
that the $25 permit fee
be deleted. That the concerns
for fence construction, uh, uh, with regard to water
runoff be placed in the permitting column,
that the in kind replacement within the center
tier be placed within the permit free,
uh, column. I've made specific recommendations
for line item changes to this effect. It
eliminates the arbitrary designation of
17, of, of 17 pickets and two posts.
I offer this for the council's consideration for a second
to, uh, discuss and, uh, put on a future agenda,
uh, to change, uh, this ordinance. Thank
you, mr. Mayor. So our request has been made to, uh, put this on an additional
agenda. I discussion with that. So, discussion.
we can talk about this just, uh, yes, no, for the agenda. If
you wanna object for agenda. Can I say why? I'm gonna say no. I may, you may say
yes. Um, arbitrary is a very frustrating word to hear
as one of the council members who spent hours
more than a few hours talking and listening
and negotiating back and forth on how
we took six people plus staff,
staff, staff, staff and staff to come up with
a solution that met everybody's
needs. It not only took care of what mr.
casada was talking about, about how, you know, look, this is a lot. We, there's
a lot of revenue that is lost on that. Well, the city's not in the business of making
revenue. We, we try to break even, but we decided,
you know what, let's take one for the citizens and we'll find, we'll, we'll,
we'll, we'll pull that down. Arbitrary. It's not arbitrary.
the 17 pickets is, uh, basically the number of pickets on
a, on sections of fence. So
all of it is not arbitrary. There's not,
I don't know any of it that's arbitrary. I think a lot of it was negotiation
and compromise. So, no, I can't
get behind, spend another hour on a fence
ordinance, mr. Mayor,
point of order. I believe once a motion is made
and it's been seconded, it's open for discussion. And the discussion
at this point would be to consider it for
a, a future agenda. That's what we're considering right now. He's just giving, he's giving his, uh, his opinion
with his, uh, with his answer. So, uh, we know your yes, and we know
that, uh, uh, ms. Bowman's a yes for, for adding it. So I'm just taking
the votes. Now, this is not an agenda item, so I'm not making an agenda item.
I'm making it, giving it the opportunity to be a future agenda
item based on the council. I'm not making a decision. So
now, so I'm assuming you're a yes. Yes. Okay,
ms. Bud, I'm a, no. I sat in here and listened to
every painful word for many painful hours, and I think there's a lot
more important things that we can do on this dais. I believe what
we saw today that there really isn't a problem. And
we're, we're getting into the weeds really deep
, ditto and no. Okay. Consensus
that the, uh, of the counsel is a no move.
uh, action items. Uh, first item up is the, uh, audit for
fy 2024. Thank you. Uh,
ms. David presentation. This, uh, she
along with janet. We have the consent agenda first. Oh,
I apologize. We do, we have the minutes. Thank you, maribel.
I made my apologies. Uh, I made a check mark and
then I looked at cross side item eight. We need a vote
on the consent item. Consent item. Uh, the agenda is strictly
one item only if there's any disagreements. Thank you, .
move to approve. Second. Uh, any discussion?
call for the vote. Mayor per fitzpatrick aye.
council member goldsby aye. Council member bowman aye. Council member putt
aye. Council member rubal aye. Motion carried. Thank you.
now, now item, um, this item
on the honor. I'll be required to do a motion to accept the honor
and after presentation, and while that presentation is coming up, mayor, maybe
just for the audience, I'll remind them that one of the things the city does annually
is we bring in an outside agency to go through our financial records to
make sure that we are appropriately, uh, placing the funds where they
need to be and the expenses and the revenues, and that we
have, uh, good accounting practices, uh, not only in the
books, but how the division of duties happens among staff, so that there is no,
uh, chance for collusion that'll leave. Selena. Thank you. Thank
you very much for having us. I'm selena jones. I'm a senior audit manager at a bip. And
this is janet pittman. She's the, um, partner in charge of the audit. We audited the financial
statements of the city for the year, ended september 30th, 2024, and
issued an annual financial report for that period. Um, there's several things in that financial
report. There's an independent auditor's report, which is, thank you.
can't do two things at once. . Um, okay. Thank you. Um,
there's the independent auditor's report. There's management's discussion and analysis.
um, there's government wide financial statements, which are converted from the fund financial
statements. There's some notes to the financial statements that gives you additional information and clarifies
those numbers for you. There's some required supplementary information,
such as comparative statements, um, information related to pension and oped,
things like that. There's also some other supplementary information and statistics in the
back. And then there's a compliance section. A part of our audit also included a compliance, um,
some compliance testing. Um, the independent auditor's report is
the letter that we issue. It's page one through three. Um, there's a lot of information
on that report. The most important thing is our opinion. Um, the audit standards that we
followed were gap or generally accepted, um, auditing standards. We also, um,
followed government auditing standards and we also followed uniform guidance. And
the purpose of our audit was to form an independent opinion on whether the financial statements
are presented in accordance with those standards. And our audit opinion is unmodified,
meaning, yes, we found that our opinion is that those financial statements
are presented in accordance with those standards. Um,
the management's discussion and analysis has some really good information for you on kind of how to read
the financial statements and kind of the different information that's included there. Um, there's
some financial highlights. Um, and again, this is management's analysis and discussion.
there's an overview of the financial statements. There's discussion about the government
wide, the converted, which includes long-term assets and liabilities. And there's also, um,
some analysis of the city fund financial statements. You'll also see some budgetary
highlights and then some information about your capital assets and debt, those
long-term liabilities and assets that show up on your converted, um, government-wide financials.
and then there's information on, if you want more information about the, um, financial statements, you
can get that there. I'm gonna briefly go over some financial
highlights, and at the end, if you have any questions, let us know. First I'm gonna
talk about the government-wide financial statements. The assets of the city exceeded the liabilities
or its net position by 101.2 million
as of september 30th, 2024. 46.7 million
of that is government activities. 54.5 million has been
business type activities such as the water storm, storm water, utilities, things
like that. In the golf course, your net position during 2024
increased by 8.5 million from the prior year. 3.4 million
of that was in governmental activities, and 5.1 million of that was
in business type activities. Um, the governmental increase was primarily due to an
increase in some sales tax. You had additional investment earnings. Um, same thing with
business type activities. There were some additional investment earnings and there was also transfer from the
governmental activities to the business type activities.
on pages 18 and 19. Um, there is information on your governmental funds.
our total fund balance was 30.5 million. And again, this is, um,
prior to the conversion. So this is just fund level. Your unassigned fund balance was
17.2 million and 17.1 million. Almost all of that is in your general fund.
if you do a calculation for operating reserves and you exclude your capital outlay, that
equals about 13 months worth of ex operating expenses. Last year,
it was, uh, 12 months. Your restricted fund balance in the general fund
is 216,000. Capital projects is 10.3 million. Debt
service is 765,000. And, um, other special revenue fund is
1.6 million. So you do have some restricted funds in there.
some additional information about your fund financial statements regarding revenue. Revenue was,
um, 26 million for the year, which was a $4.6 million increase.
it was kind of a variety of reasons. Your ad valor tax increased by 730,000,
and that's more due to an allocation between debt service and the general fund. Your
sales tax increased by 174,000. Your investment earnings increased.
general funds revenue was 18.6 million. On paper, it
looks like a reduction, but the reason for that is we pulled out some special revenue funds
out of the general fund in the current year. We're showing them separately now, so it looks like
it's a reduction, but it's not. Truly, there was a 2.2 million of revenue that was now shown as
other, um, other, um, special revenue funds.
um, some information about your expenditures. Expenditures were 18.3 million
for the year, which was a $997,000 increase, primarily due
to three areas. The police, um, expenses increased, fire expenses
increased, and your capital outlay increased, um, by about
300,000, um, roughly for each of those. We also pulled out some non-departmental
stuff out of administration, so it just shows separately. Now,
the next set of financial statements are your proprietary funds, which is water sewer.
um, you'll also notice that we pulled out water impact fees during the current year so that it's
showing separately. So you'll see additional funds under proprietary funds.
your water and sewer fund net position was 40.8 million, which was an
increase of 1.3 million. Um, 8.4 million of that is unrestricted.
32.4 million is net investments in capital assets. Your water
impact fees, which is one of those new funds, this 2.6 million net position sewer
impact fees, 542,000, um, net
position. And both of those are restricted for that use. Your stormwater fund net
position is 8 million, which was an increase of 722,000. 1.2 million
is unrestricted. 6.8 million is investment in capital assets.
your golf fund 2.5 million net position, which was
a slight decrease of 109002.1 million of that is unrestricted
and your net investment in capital assets is 383,000.
lastly that the on page 1 29 to 1 32 was our compliance audit, and
we issued two letters related to that. We did, um, an independent
auditor's report based on government auditing standards, and we found that there were no material weaknesses
and internal controls to report. We also, um, issued a letter on uniform
guidance complied examination on some federal funding that was spent. We also,
uh, found that there were no findings or question cost and that the city complied with all
specific requirements to those guidance. And that's
everything in the presentation, but we'll obviously answer, um, open
it for questions if you have anything. Thank you. Any questions? Yes.
um, so councilman v can't be here tonight, but he did post
on the message board and I thought it was worth the question to ask since
he brought it up. Um, so we had decided at city council
that we had approved $550,000 of the venue tax to
go to the general fund, but instead it shows only 349. 237
went into it. I was just wondering if we could get an answer on absolutely. Um,
we, we did look at that today. This is the draft and that was one change that we did make. It's the only change
that we made in between the draft that you received and the, um, the draft that the final
version that you'll get. Um, that transfer was kind of recorded as a,
it was recorded as a transfer back rather than a due to due from. So we made that
correction and now the transfer shows the full 550,000 and there's a
due to due fund that kind of cancels each other out between the special revenue fund and the general fund.
so that's resolved. Okay. And you'll see that on the new, um, financial statements when they come out.
can you explain the reasoning why? Yeah. The reason is, is because you changed to pool cash
this year, um, which is a little bit different from what you've done in the past. Um, so every, all
cash is kind of combined and at the end of the audit we saw that there was a negative balance
in cash for that fund and we needed to fix that and we
recorded it as a transfer back. Instead, we needed to record it as a due to due from,
so that money will show as money due from a special revenue fund to
the general fund. And it was probably paid back the, um, october 1st
, you know, it was probably already taken care of, but on that specific date, we just needed to record it differently.
okay. It, that's it. Yes.
yeah. Yes ma'am. Thank you. Uh, actually I spent hours
going through, uh, this report more hours than spent on
on prior offenses, but in in any,
in any case, I really applaud, uh,
the, uh, uh, your organization, uh, for putting
the text and the definitions, uh, within this report.
um, even though government accounting is different
than business accounting and different than cash accounting in your checkbook,
it almost is understandable. And, and
basically, um, the, the frame that I'd like to understand,
and here you express however the information frame, if you will,
is when, when we look at an audit,
my impression, especially from the data that you've
provided, uh, is that the standards for auditing
allow us to look at this snapshot in time.
the snapshot in time is defined by fiscal year, which unfortunately,
uh, new council members will find overlaps, council
years type thing. They're not congruous. So
basically there, there are items and issues in this budget
that weren't approved by this council as a group. There,
there members of diocese that we're here. The second
thing that is important for us
to interpret, I think, and this is very much your feedback,
is that there's relatively limited
value in the snapshot
in looking at long-term debt payment
that's not declared in existing bonds or other
tools, financial tools. So therefore,
the, for example, uh, infrastructure debt of
the city where a hundred streets
need repair is not in any way
in this report. So that when we look at, at, at, at
$30 million to play with some being
restricted funds, uh, type thing, it's, it's really not
there necessarily this, this is a snapshot. Correct.
the other thing I have difficulty with is understanding how,
uh, pensions are derived the
impact of pensions on, on, uh, on the yearly
audit since they're projected forward. So, right.
can you, can you give some insight to me and perhaps other council members
on that? So as, as auditors, we're kind of, we're looking back, we're looking at history
and back as, as the city council, you're looking forward and you're thinking about things forward,
but there is some really valuable information in those financial statements for you. The first is
the conversion and you see what those long-term liabilities and assets are. You don't necessarily need
to see those when you're looking at your budget to actual and when you're budgeting operating expenses.
but it is, you're right, it is valuable and I'm sure everybody is looking at those requirements and
there's a notes to the financial statement that gives, um, those requirements
by year. It gives you a complete breakdown. There's also the, the statistical section
in the back, which gives you patterns and you can kind of see patterns in the past and you
can see where, um, the debt has increased or decreased. So there is information
that will help inform your decisions moving forward. Um, so I hope that answers your
question about that. Um, it is two different things and we're talking about september 30th, 2024
and you, you all are moving forward and you've already gone through the budget process. Um, but
there is really valuable information, um, if you dig into it as far as pensions
and eps. Um, we get those directly every year, um, from
the organization and they use actuarial assumptions every year. It
changes every year. Investments, the way they invest change every year. And you can
look in the back, there's statistical tables for pensions and opep that shows you
how those liabilities have increased or decreased. And you can see where those transitions
have happened. Those are a little bit harder to predict, um,
just because it's such a moving target with those types of things. Um, and
we don't really know that until they've completed their actuarial actuarial assumptions
and made changes. Sometimes they may change how they look at one little thing and it makes a number
drop or increase or anything. So december, do
what the report is december prior to the audit. Yes. And there's some timing issues too, because
that report is as of december 30th every year. So there was a
little bit of a leeway between your year end and their year. So it is a little bit of a complicated,
um, calculation. Um, we do it carefully every year. Those, that
information comes directly from pension and . Um,
so do you have anything else to add? I don't. Okay. No. And the, the, in the last very
basic question is essentially the standard used
by auditors is actually the way I understand
reading about things, uh, on online a little bit worse place
to the go, I know essentially is that it is a moving standard.
there's improved transparency. I've gone through
20 years of city audits and there's definitely improved transparency
as we're, as we move forward. Yeah. And do you see trends in
future audits in this, in this direction? Every year they're,
they're, um, they're sending us updated guidance every year. We have a new
gasb that we have to worry about implement. Yeah.
um, is it 1 0 1 vacation for compensated absences?
so we kind of have to be looking down the pipeline. This is gonna be affecting our clients in one year, two
year, three year, five years. We kind of, so we wanna start talking about those with,
uh, the cities to make sure that we're on top of those things and we're not kind of, um, chasing them.
we're on top of them or expecting them. We know what changes they're gonna, what they're gonna affect.
again, I'm very pleased with this, with this presentation
of amp, the report and the data. I'm very pleased with our financial
officer. Yes. Who works with you. I wanna definitely commend, um, christine and
thank and the team. They, they did a great job. The audit was, um, it, we had a, you
know, a really good experience. Very time. Yeah. Everything was, I went really as smoothly as
it could. Um, and they do a great job of getting us the information that we need. Thank
you. And mrs. Turner's very involved. She looks at all the numbers. . Yes.
no comments. Yeah, I know. We moved some money to
do better. Was this related to what we talked voted at the last meeting for transparency
purposes. Special revenues. Yeah. So so moving some of the money out so
it didn't match up exactly. And that's where, where, um,
selena and janet put it into non-major to, to show
us that we really couldn't be using it within the general fund. That vote made so much more
sense once I saw this and saw what you had done. So thank you for kind of teeing that up for
us. And there is a whole schedule in the back that gives you every single fund a breakdown so
you know exactly what's in there and what's happening. Yeah. Thank you. Used to read all 124.
you mean you don't read? Absolutely. I have memorized part of it, but I have
to give kudos to the council as well. You know, we've always offered for people to come in and go over
the audit with christine and I, and, you know, kudos,
every council member made an effort this year to ask questions about the
audit or to meet with us and or, you know, sought advice elsewhere
on the audit. And we greatly appreciate that because it makes our job easier
when we know what you're questioning, what you're thinking about. Because
sometimes when you ask a question, it forces us to find a
non accounting terms to explain it to everybody and it takes us back to basics.
so, uh, kudos to all of you for that. So I really appreciate it. And then
also maybe an apology. So, you know, since christine and I have gotten here, we have
done a lot to change the budget process. I mean, some of you have been here with us
the whole time. It's been a lot of change in the budget, which then made
a lot of changes in the audit. And then we even made more changes in the audit to
try to make it a little more transparent. So, um, our desire, our
hope, our wish is that at some point we will have absolutely nailed down
the perfect budget process for you and have an audit
that looks the same three years in a row.
ms, you still make money? Oh, I'm sorry, .
I was, I was just gonna, I wanted the audience to know that we are invited
to go and sit with them and they explain it until the thickness
works. They explain it in layman's terms. You know, not all of us
can look at the numbers and really understand what you're going and when we leave,
our answers are our questions are answered. So yes, kudos
to them for being able to explain it to us and make us really understand
what's going on. That being said, uh, call for call for a
motion to accept. Motion to accept.
second, second. Second. And take bernies. I think there's been enough discussion. We'll
call for the vote. Who is the second? Bernie. Bernie. Okay. Mr.
rubal. Uh, council member goldbe aye. Council member rubal
aye. Council member mayor. Aye. Council member
bowman aye. Council member po aye. Motion carried.
super jones. Ms. Pitman, thank you for so much and I must tell
you, we yes, we have improved. I remember when I first got on council in 19, uh,
the councilman's 2010, it was the most
laborsome concept of trying to do an, not an audit, but
trying to do the budget. And it lasted the entire summer. We had elected in may and
we'd june, july, august, september, every every council
members and probably an extra one each month was just for the
budget. And yes, we've improved a lot, but thank you very much.
thank you. Next item, ordinance
6 55 t 2025. This specific
use permit 4 36 and 38 east
wright boulevard. Second reading. Yes. As you know, we had a first reading
on this last time. There was a lot of discussion. Uh, the council asked
for some modifications, uh, to the sup
and I think michael's just gonna give you, uh, just some general background information
on any changes or discussions that he had with the applicant
since our last meeting. Thank you, mr. Casda. Okay,
so basically, uh, coming out of the last discussion,
there were some additional, uh, conditions that you wanted inserted
into the ordinance. And so the, the one that remained was the unity of title
agreement, which needs to be approved and recorded. Uh, the three additional
conditions included a reduction of the accessory
dwelling unit size to be no larger than 768 square feet.
the third one, removal of the interior fence between the existing home
and the, uh, proposed a du and then the fourth one was the
installation of an additional parking space next to the existing driveway.
so I did get a call, uh, from the applicant
after the meeting. He understood all the conditions in the discussion. Um, he
did have a question and was wondering whether he really needed to install,
uh, an additional parking space. Uh, for the following reason is that the
existing home has a two car garage. Um, well first, lemme preface this
with, uh, our code requires one additional parking space for an accessory
dwelling unit. So what they have on the property,
uh, today is a two car garage. They have a very long, wide
driveway that can accommodate four cars on the driveway. So that's a total
of six cars. Um, you know, if we
go by the code, uh, they meet the, not only
the current requirement, but the proposed, uh, a du requirements
as well. So he just wanted, um, some clarification,
the reconsideration of that condition. A photo,
uh, we do have a photo. Maribel, I put a photo,
pdf in there, photos.
hopefully this will show you what. So yeah, there's a good shot of the
existing. So you'll notice that there isn't a sidewalk on this
side of the street. So it does allow for those cars to basically go out to
the curb without blocking the sidewalk. That would be on the other side.
so that allows for, again, two cars in the garage and four cars on
the driveway, which is a total of six cars. Now, whether
or not they use the car, the garage for storage or for cars, ,
any comments? Yes,
uh, uh, michael, in, in, in your, uh,
role as, uh, mediator of conflict often
where you, where you bring parties together, uh, type thing
to discuss things, uh, were you able to reach
out to the numerous residents who presented that opposed
this, this, uh, uh, approval
after the last meeting? Yes. Um, no, I did not and I did not hear from
them. Uh, normally I think I would have heard from someone
if they strongly disagreed or wanted a status update, but I didn't
hear from the neighbors, um, the immediate neighbors or any of the neighbors that came to the planning and
zoning commission.
any other questions or anything call for motion to approve? Uh,
no. Okay. Sorry. So let's just make sure we
know that we're voting on. Is this ordinance amended to remove
the requirement for a second driveway? So
the ordinance in your packets includes the additional space for a driveway as
a requirement. If you're going to reconsider that and remove that
condition, you need to state the, the motion. State that in
your motion. Can I comment first? Yes.
um, I will say I drove by the house a few times and they had moved
the trailer from the street into the
driveway. So they did follow up on me kind of trying to be a better neighbor, which I was
appreciative to see. They had also moved the car that was parked in the backyard out of
that. That being said, those two things make me feel like they,
the parking could continue to be an issue because they were using the street and the backyard for parking.
so it did, does give me pause to make the amendment, but I'm, I also
recognize that they made an effort and I wanted to make sure that you guys all knew that they had at
least were trying to follow through in being a better neighbor like we'd asked them to be.
so are you making a motion with I did not make a motion there. Okay. Just asking. Right? Sure. I
was just waiting to see what, so you need either a motion to approve as is
or a motion to amend.
do you want me to, so I'm voting no, so either
way. So I, I dunno why everyone's looking at me. I, sorry.
you do what you have to say. Yeah, that's, that's what I'm just, I'm sticking with my note from
last time for all the same reasons and yeah, we need to, we gotta get a motion before
we go to vote. Yeah, I don't know. I was just looking at make a motion that we move to approve
as written. How's that?
is there a second? I'll second.
do we have a second? I approach
him with a second. Yes. Yes.
so we're, the idea is as it's written,
because we are trying to make sure
that there is enough parking. Correct. I mean, okay.
and I'm, I personally am open to
considering taking that they made some efforts. I feel like they're trying to be
good stewards and make that better. They haven't lived there. I feel like that's
all there. I also feel like you can park on the street, like street
parking is allowed by anybody who visits, who lives there. You could have 10 cars
parked out in the street. You just have to move them. I mean, there's certain rules around how long you can be
parked in one location, correct? Yes. You have to move it every
yes. So I mean, there's rules about that.
I was impressed by the fact that they had followed through within like two days. They had taken care of all the
rest of the stuff and they didn't need to do that right away. They didn't even need to do it yet. But I appreciate the fact that
they had. So, um, yeah, I'm,
well, I'm open just stands, right? I know. We're, they have availability of eight cars
to be parked in their driveway and garage and, but the motion
is stated that there will be the eight plus one additional six, I'm sorry,
six. That's the a I'm sorry. The, uh, uh, six plus
an additional for seven plus whatever they can park on the street
also. So we wanna keep the motion as, as is.
okay. Call for the vote. I got more questions. Oh, sorry, sorry. Call for the discussion.
is that, is that, uh, just a widening of the driveway? We're not, we're not installing
another curb cut. Correct. So it's just a, so basically, uh, a flare
closer to the garage. Okay. Alright. I like that.
thank you. Any other discussion? I just
have to ask, does bearfield better about that option? I'm still frustrated
with it. I'm still still on the fence. That's why I wish ashton would really sway one way or
the other. But she's saying mom about it, so I'm just like,
I mean, my discussion is just the same that we had before. I, I don't, I,
I don't know. I just, I feel like, I feel like in
my heart at the end of the day, and this is just my opinion, that these are going to be two
separate rentals. I feel like it's going to be a rental house and the a du is also going to be a rental.
I don't know that I necessarily have wholeheartedly
believe that that's not gonna be two rental houses. I don't think I just,
I don't think that's fair. I wouldn't want it in my neighborhood. We don't have to allow it. It's city
council. I understand planning and zoning. They have to allow it 'cause it's based on planning and zoning. But
when it comes to city council, I vote with my heart. So I'm just on the fence
that I just don't think, like I said, the other a du you know, they had
people that came and said, yes, this is gonna be for my mother-in-law. I want this here. And then this
house is the complete opposite. And they had six, seven people say, I don't want this here.
and I just, if it was me and it was my neighborhood, I wouldn't want
someone to have rentals on top of their house being a rental. I mean, that's just,
we already have, we all sat at the comprehensive plan. 54% of our town or whatever
is rentals. That's an astronomical amount. And now we're just gonna allow even
more. I just not gonna do it man. . Appreciate that. Thank you.
yeah, later on. I like that what you really feel. Yeah. . Sorry.
no, I was, I was, I was hoping for that. I wanted to hear that's, thank you. Yeah.
yes. Thank you mr. Mayor. Uh, basically I,
I must fall on the side of ashton and
that this project, uh,
we're faced with defining event, essentially what
a mother-in-law house is. And basically
I think what we've we're providing is a
means for a multi-family
unit type thing, which is, is just
significantly different than the neighborhood expects,
uh, from this. Now basically if there were
a house for sale in the neighborhood that were reasonable sure
that they may, uh, the family may jump on the chance to
have the family close together. And I, I can appreciate that.
um, but the context is beyond the
scope, I think of the mother-in-law, uh, dwelling that, uh,
we're generally all in favor of. And I, I, the family
is wonderful, but I, I just can't do that for
the neighborhood. I understand. I make one more comment if that's
okay. Yes, I do. This is an unusual situation 'cause they are both rentals
at this point. Um, I really felt like the family's very heartfelt in their
desire to make the changes and improvements to the house and move in.
um, he mentioned that the brother, his brother was his brother or brother-in-law. I'm not sure
which one was gonna be the one that was living in the accessory dwelling building. And I also do
believe that property owners do have the right to, if they have the space and the ability to make some
changes or modifications, I think that that is great. I would ideally
like it to be families and I think we're going to be seeing more and more of that. As,
you know, we kind of grow and things get tightened with the economy and
things. I think we are gonna see families consolidating down and living together more
and we need to be open to that. But what if then they sell that house and somebody comes in? We have
no control over how that's used going forward and I recognize that. So I
think we have to be very careful to that reason. I think that keeping
it to the same as the driveway being put out, build out that
at least is us making some concessions to making sure that there's enough parking for people.
I think that's important to do in this case because this one is a little challenging to
consider. That's all. Mayor. Okay, I off of the vote, I just want to throw this out
there for just your consideration and, and uh, just so that you're aware,
we are slowly coming into a multi-national or multi-family,
uh, age. Mm-hmm . Uh, I have, uh,
I added, my wife and I added a mother-in-law suite to our house a number of years ago.
uh, it is adjacent to the room, to the house, to the dwelling,
but it was not part of, we actually built it on two,
it has a separate, um, entrance if desire
and if anything were to happen to my mother-in-law, heaven forbid
we could rent that room out. That would
be our free will to do as it was. So I just wanted to know that
there's certain things that you cannot control and just be aware
that are, are, we're changing as
we evolve around. Especially as we have, uh, a lot of our family members
aging and moving back in with, uh, the younger children and vice versa. So
there's certain things that we can't change, but there's some things also
that is illegal. And with that, let's call for the vote.
council member put aye. Mayor fitzpatrick. Aye. Council
member fullman. No. Council member wolffe aye.
council member rubal with regrets? No, the motion carried.
carried forward. Okay. Um, next item is,
uh, item b. Your view pay
number five. Yes. Uh, mayor, as you know with the community
development block grant, in order to get reimbursement, we have to have approval
on each pay application by city council. So this one is for the hill do
project. It's in the amount of $207,950 and
43 cents. And we are requesting council, approve it so we can get
our reimbursement from the county. Move to approve discussion.
call of the vote. Council member goldman
aye. Council member goldsby aye. Mayor pro temp
fitzpatrick. Aye. Council member put aye. Council member rubal
aye. Motion carrie, move forward. Uh, ladies and gentlemen, item
10 is an executive session. Uh, city council universal city
will meet to, uh, under texas government
code 5 5 1 0 7 1 consultation with attorneys,
uh, in relationship to case number 2 0 2 4
cv 0 6 5 11 camino lavoy,
llc, uh, texas liability company. And there's a bunch of stuff in there too.
we're gonna receive information here that we may or may
not take action on. And at 8 46
we're gonna send to 7 7 6. My apology,
seven six. You were panicking me. Goodness gracious.
7 46, 8 11,
reconvene the meeting. It was stressful. I need a break. Yes, you too.
and we're out of executive council
session. And with that being said, there's no
action being taken by the council. And with that being said,
meeting is adjourned. Awesome. Thank.