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I thought that was really cool. Evening, ladies and gentlemen, regular

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meeting. Universal city, city council called the order for

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february 18th. It is 6:31 pm call

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for a quo check. Mayor time fitzpatrick. Here.

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council member bowman. Here. Council member goldsby. Here. Council

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member. Put here. Council member rubal. Here. Council member vaughan

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second. We have a form. Okay,

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we'll, uh, I've got the invocation tonight.

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and then from there we'll go with the p of allegiance and then proceed. Please stand

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please. Heavenly

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father, as we gather today, we ask for your guidance and wisdom in our discussions.

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help us listen attentively to one another with open hearts and minds, and make

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decisions that reflect your will and serve the common good of our citizens.

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we thank you for bringing us together and for your blessings on our time here.

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amen. I pledge allegiance

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to the honor of the united states of america and to the

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republic for which stands, one nation under god,

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invis to liberty and justice. For honor,

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honor, texas. File pledge allegiance to be texas.

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one state under god on in .

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be seated. Uh, council has got

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other duties tonight and can't be here, so call for a motion for approval. Move to

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approve. Second aye. Call for, uh, vote.

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council member bowman aye. Council member goldsby aye. Mayor

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fitzpatrick. Aye. Council member put aye. Council, memberal

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aye. Motion carried. Uh, first on the agenda

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is citizens to be heard. Uh, before we move into citizens

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to be heard, majority of the folks

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are here for the coronado school

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district. Is that correct? Anyone that's on the list? Not for the

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coronado school district. Okay. With that being said, we're gonna go through with the

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citizens to be heard. Um, I'd like to bring a couple of things to, to light

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though, as promised, at the last meeting I was gonna discuss with, uh, superintendent,

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I had a personal meeting with dr. Fields superintendent of, uh,

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judson, isd, and he is in agreement to have

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a town hall meeting, yet had, in fact, he was in planning one. I have sent

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personal invitations to each of the council members, inviting them to the town hall meeting,

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which is on the 24th at coronado in the dining in the, uh, cafeteria

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at 6:30 pm I will be there. Uh, I

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encourage you to go to the regular school board meeting, which is

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february 20th, thursday night, and at the location of that one

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is the judson, uh, school board room. The reason why I'm asking

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you to do this, the is imperative that you get your

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word heard by the board members of the judson, isd

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and the count and the, uh, uh, superintendent staff.

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they're the ones that are gonna be making the decision. We can go in with any type of

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a, of a comment, negative or positive. It has no sway. We

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have no sway on the school board. Uh, your vote is the one that put those

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school board members in there. So with that, we are gonna go ahead and

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we're gonna call up. And, um, you please, uh, each one try

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to come forward with, uh, additional information, not just repeating the same thing if

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at all possible, uh, we are limited your, uh, speech to, uh, three

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minutes and we're gonna hear it. We've only got, uh, about, uh, six, seven

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people signed up. So we'll hear everyone that wants to speak

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and unfortunately we're not gonna be able to discuss it with you. Uh, robert

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whiting, you come.

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state your name and address. Yes, sir. My name is robert whiting. I currently

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reside at 3 2 3 madrid drive in coronado village.

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I thank you for this opportunity to be heard. We are here tonight to represent the save

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our neighborhood committee, a group of taxpayers and voters primarily from

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the coronado village community. We are concerned that allowing the judge and

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ic to repurpose the coronado village elementary school into

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a disciplinary alternative education program will impact our resident

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safety, decrease property values, and prevent attracting new

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families into the neighborhood. In the february 4th, 2025

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city council meeting, you gave us confirmation we could petition

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our neighbors without a permit. To date, we have collected over 200 permits.

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let me take a moment to add to what you said.

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we encourage you, mayor, council members, and everybody

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in this room, uh, to attend not only the town hall scheduled

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for monday, but also for the justin isd board meeting because

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again, it's very important we get you the chance to say a word. If we don't,

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it's our fault and we didn't take the opportunity to do it. Uh, for those,

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the, uh, the meeting will begin at the town hall at six 30 to seven 30,

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and we humbly ask for everybody's support tonight. A few of us would

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like to provide a sort of, like a 30,000 foot view, a big picture,

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uh, perspective of our concerns with the potential repurposing.

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specifically, we will address property values, safety and particular concerns

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expressed by our neighbors and community that we found during this petition process.

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more detailed information is available on our website, cve,

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su do w-e-e-b-l y.com.

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com encourage you to go there. We'll have a lot more detail there.

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many studies show that the proximity and quality of a school has

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a significant impact on the desirability of a neighborhood, which in

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turn affects property value. On december 19th, 2024,

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six outta seven board members from the judson independent school district voted

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to closed the coronado village elementary school. The

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board is now considering repurposing the existing facility,

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um, and they took away the grassland notre, I'm saying coronado

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village elementary school. This elementary school had a rating of six.

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the, uh, j care has a rating of one, which is kind of, we're gonna lose a lot of at

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traction there. Um, and finally, what I'd like to say,

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um, many people we've walked around in the last couple weeks since they closed

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it, they put up for sale signs. And finally, I

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just wanna share a personal experience that I had. I went over and watched

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the students leave, uh, j care and I was, uh,

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really concerned because they leave the campus and they

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disperse. Uh, there's nobody managing 'em. They go to the

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qt. May I just cut by a couple more seconds, sir. Proceed. Thank you

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very much. Um, they proceed and they went into the

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quick trip there at the convenience store. When I walked in,

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the manager was taking, telling a lot of 'em to leave because they

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were loitering. And I asked him, I said, why did you tell them to leave? He said, because they

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continue to come in there day after day after day. They loiter, they block the

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aisles, and they also have been caught stealing. So at this

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point, I'll just hand it over to my other team member and let them talk

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about, uh, safety for you. Thank you very much for this effort. Thank you mr. Whi.

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michelle vos.

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I'm sorry, I said I was just gonna yield my time to robert. No, I don't, I don't need it.

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okay, no problem. But I'll thank you michelle. Uh, james talley.

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my name is james sally. I currently reside at one 30 valencia ado

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village directly across the street from con village elementary school.

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our purpose tonight is to share safety concerns regarding place, a disciplinary

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alternative education program, specifically j care in my neighborhood.

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my wife and I have lived, owned this home, coronado village, lived there since 2005. We

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have other family members, including children, grandchildren, and friends resigning

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in the neighborhood. The potential future home of j care is immediately surrounded

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by over 35 homes and 520 plus homes around the

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neighborhood. Housing families with young children and senior citizens,

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no other daep program within the counties or within surrounding san antonio

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area. And it has a d has a-d-e-a-p

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in the residential section in that area. Everything is on the outside

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or mostly placed in a commercial or urban area. So there's nothing

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that's directly in the center of our neighborhood like it's supposed to, like they want it to be.

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furthermore, I'm concerned about the safety, um, the type of students that

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are placed in j care. The chart being this chart is also on the

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judson independent school district boy, uh, um,

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what's that? Sorry. But, uh, I'm concerned about the safety and, uh,

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examining at the type of students in place in jk. The chart being held

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as a report of the violent criminal incidents in 22 and 23 is from the

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judge and isd website. It contains a number of disciplinary actions between 22

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and 23 of students from judge and isd in the middle school, placing them in a converse

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area and a-d-a-a-p program. Before I cite a couple of statistics,

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note, this data comes from the public education information management system

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encompassing all the data requested and received by the texas education agency from

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all the public schools in texas. Note that they, uh, you can't obviously

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see that on the small writing, but if you did come up that site, you'd be able to tell.

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um, and since you do not have that, um, I'd like

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to cite a couple of reasons for statistics from the report of the code, different

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codes position, for example, code zero four possession

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sold, used or under the influence of marijuana or other controlled substances

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incidents. Code 11 brought a firearm to school or unlawful

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carrying of a handgun code one eight indecency with a child

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code 22 criminal mischief. Code 26, terrorist threat code

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that was over 400 incidents. And even after the students are

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placed in j care, they continue to have serious misbehavior. Well expelled to place d-a-d-a-e-p.

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many of these students since this, also known as class c felons in texas,

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ti title v penal code violation crimes that are punishable by

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less than five years, but no more than one year.

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um, I'm next on your list and I would like to deal my time

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so he can finish just a few more .

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anyway, um, many of these, this is also known

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as a class d felonies of texas title v penal code violations. Crimes are

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punishable by less than five years, but no more than one year of prison. If this what

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you want in your neighborhood of universal city, we don't, especially directly across the street

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from where I live. And let me point out those with, uh, also,

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let me point out those with sexual and assaultive offenses. Texas law and the universal

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city ordinance, making it unlawful to be in the vehicle or remaining

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in or around the area and designated a child safety zone

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means public or commercial and semi-private swimming pools. State law mandates

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that during their term assigned assignment of jc students are prohibited from being

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pa or within 300 feet of any school district property, except that

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on an alternative school, did you also know that justin isd

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owns and facilitates a pool located at 5 0 6 coronado

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boulevard? Well, within the 300 foot restriction next door, the

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coronado village elementary school, this is an explicit violation

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of state law and judson isd rules. I

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wanna read what a former employee of j care reported to us.

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as a former employee of judson alternative schools, I would definitely not want those

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students in my neighborhood. Oesa few may have begged a bad decision.

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some of them learn for their mistakes, but all the students are there because they

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have been knocked, kicked out of their home campus. And not because they are good

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students. Some students may be there for truancy, but most are there

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for fighting drugs, weapons, they aren't building a jail

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in your neighborhood. But most of these students have been in jail or awaiting trial for various things.

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drugs, assault, assault with weapons.

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also stated, when I was there, many were involved in drive-by shootings, other violent offenses.

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one even killed his stepdad. So in closed neighborhood, this type of school

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students is not a good idea. Not judging. It's my personal experience

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with these students. Not all kids are beyond second chance,

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but some are on their last chance. Next stop will be juvenile

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justice academy, jail or prison. As bad as this may sound,

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my next, uh, I'd like to bring up another. You're

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coming up on three, sir. Oh, okay. It was gonna be

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due with the, uh, response to the police department, but, uh,

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I don't have any time for that, I guess. Thank you. I appreciate your time and, uh,

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listening to us. And if you're all interested in coming up to this site, feel

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free to do so. Thank you very much. Thank

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you, sir. Um, ms. Beth parker.

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elizabeth parker, one 11 malaga circle, universal city.

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um, when I spoke to the council on february the fourth, um,

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I saw the judson proposal that, uh, mr. Whiting and mr. Talley have, have, um,

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explained as directly impacting universal city vision

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35, uh, process. Uh, and to just

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continue, uh, some additional information, um, the j care principal

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said that, um, between a hundred and 120 students

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attend daily at the j care program. Um,

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where that to be at coronado village elementary, the, uh, the

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district is proposing an immediate border with this program

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for troubled youth to the 30 plus homes that surround the school,

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including the 10 plus homes with rear or side entry

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garages, which require backing out within inches of school

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property. Judson proposes this border also to parents

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and their students who swim at the judson pool. As, uh, mr. Talley said,

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coronado village has no wide boulevards on two sides, just

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a sidewalk and a street, and two sides have only

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18 foot wide alleys. It's no more appropriate to

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put this alternative school at coronado village, then it

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would be to put it at france elementary in live oak, because

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there's 30 houses also surrounding france. And it wouldn't

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be appropriate to put it at olympia either, because there are 20

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plus houses that surround that school.

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and as, uh, mr. Talley, uh, stated, um, during

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the term of the assignment of the students at j care, they are

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prohibited from being pawn or within legal limits of any school

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property except that of the alternative school. So,

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if j care students are on alternative property

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that is now the elementary school, what are the legal limits? When

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the judson pool property is right there? Uh,

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I feel like, you know, the, the judson school district has tried its best to protect

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other students from the j care, from the j care students,

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but, um, from because of our subdivision layout,

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what protects a child who resides across

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an 18 foot alley or just across the sidewalk in

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a street from the students, a

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child's house is not a child safety zone as defined.

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so I'm asking, can universal city establish

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any kind of legal limits that would prevent the j care program

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from relocating to the elementary school? Uh,

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I feel like uc, because of ordinance 6 0 2, has tried to

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protect students in the, uh, zone, you know, in the safety

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zone. But what about the child that isn't in a safety zone?

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they're also at risk. Thank you.

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thank you, ms. Parker. Uh, rosie stein. I was yielding my

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time to her. Okay. Thank you.

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and mr. Brooks? Dan brooks. Excuse

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me. Me. Daniel brooks. Dan's fine.

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good evening. My name is dan brooks. I am assistant superintendent at judson,

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isd. Um, wanted to talk a little bit about,

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uh, the repurposing of coronado village. Um, as some

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have already stated, we have had meetings concerning the repurposing

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of the school. Um, several of our departments within

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our district did a presentation vying for space at

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the school. Dep was one of those departments along with special education.

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um, and then we also have some others that we've spoken to, um, that

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want to, uh, be considered for coronado village as

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far as their, their departments and their programs coming to, to the school.

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um, what we want to do is we want to

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hear from the community as far as what are your ideas, what are

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the community's ideas as far as what they would like to see,

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um, from coronado village? What should we repurpose it to?

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and so we, um, we have created a survey that we will put on

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our website that we will be asking those questions. Um, some, as I

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said, some have come to the meeting, and so if you, you know, agree

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with what the departments that already presented, um, you can, that there's

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a question on the survey concerning that. And then there's an, an open

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s an open question that asks, you know, what are your ideas, what are your suggestions as

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to what you think jeff and isd should do with coronado

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village? Um, I do want to state that no decision has been made at

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this point. Um, as you stated, uh, mayor maxwell, the, the, the board

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will vote on that to decide whether or not to, um,

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make it whatever we're gonna make it. Uh, again, I I've heard all of the, the dap

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talk, um, and it seems as if people think the decision has been

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made already. Um, is that an option on the table? Yes, that

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is an option on the table. Has that been recommended yet? No, that

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has not been recommended yet. What we will do is once we have gathered all information,

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we being superintendent in the cabinet, once we've gathered all of that information,

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we'll then get together and decide what recommendation we want

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to bring to the school board, and then the school board will vote on the

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recommendation that we bring. So I'm encouraging everyone definitely to

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come to the meeting on the 20th. Um, um, I'm sorry,

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on the 24th, which is the, uh, the town hall meeting

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there, we'll discuss and hear from the community as far as what are your ideas,

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what do you want to see, um, as far as coronado village and what would you

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like it to be? Um, and then from there, like I said, we will gather information

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and, uh, we'll give a recommendation to the board. And from there, the board will make a

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decision. But I do want to say that I, I understand the concern

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should, you know, the dap be something that that is considered.

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I do understand the, the concerns and, um, we are looking at

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all aspects of whatever programs come that we decide on. So

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just wanna make sure that everyone is, is, is up to date and understand where

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we are in the process. Okay? Thank you. Thank you, mr. Brooks.

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um, I want to stress, again, I encourage, I should

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say, your attendance at the, uh, town hall meeting especially.

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I will not be able to attend the meeting wednesday or tuesday night, uh,

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thursday night on the 20th, because I will be out town at a, at, uh, that

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a texas municipal lead conference. The, um,

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for anyone who is going to be at the town hall meeting on the council, please let

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maribel know so that we can make a announcement for possible quorum if

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necessary. And with that being said,

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since this be heard, it's closed out.

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okay, next comes up is, uh, staff reports and discussion items. Uh, city manager

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report. I have no report. Uh, uh, uh, mr. Mayor,

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uh, michael's gonna come up and do a brief overview of the

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fence ordinance since we changed it a year plus ago, just to give you counsel

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an idea of where we are on that and how that's working out amongst the residents.

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okay?

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okay. Thank you, mayor council.

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so we have put together a presentation to over

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basically one year of the new ordinance, uh, being in effect.

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and so, next slide please.

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so, as you recall, uh, back in 2023 in october,

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city council updated the, uh, fence ordinance

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and basically came up with three buckets, uh, three different categories for,

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uh, permitting. Uh, one is the $85 permit and inspection.

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second is a $25 permit, which was a reduction. Uh, all permits

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were $85 for fences at that time. Uh, that category was reduced

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to 25, uh, dollars for major fence maintenance.

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and then there's a third category, no permanent fee or inspection required.

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and that was for minor fences. And so just below that, in

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the second table, those columns explain what each of those categories means.

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so then it's been over a year, but we looked at next

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slide, please. We looked at defense data from november 1st, 2023

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to october 31st, 2024. And as the table shows

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with the new breakdown, we issued 112 $25

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fence permits, which again was major fence repair,

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uh, totaling $2,800 and then $85 fence permits. There were 25

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that were issued for a total of 2125.

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we did about the same that we normally do. On average, we have 135

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permits. Fence permits issued a year, and during that year, we issued

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137 total dollars. Our revenue brought

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in was $4,925. Uh, just to put

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it in perspective, uh, that would mean that if we had

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not adopted the ordinance and we issued the same number of permits, that would've brought in

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a revenue stream of $11,645. So we

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brought in $6,720 less than we did the previous year.

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next slide. So from a code compliance standpoint,

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for that same year, uh, we issued, well,

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we had 26 total code compliance cases. And as you see,

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um, 14 folks did not obtain a permit. Um, so

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we had to issue them or have them go through the normal process, and they complied.

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uh, 11, uh, offenses were found to be dilapidated. And

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so they went through the process to correct those infractions. And then there was one,

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uh, fence that was installed as a back to back fence. Um, as you

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see, uh, zero citations were issued. So that means that working

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with those residents, we were able to, uh, resolve those issues.

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next slide. From a variance standpoint, uh,

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we did go back to 2019, uh, for the year that we were really looking

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at. It's about the same as those previous, um, both

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of the variance requests were for height issues, and so they were granted,

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uh, their, uh, variance requests by the board of adjustment.

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and that is all I have. Any questions from

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the council? No.

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what do you mean by back to that? I'm sorry, ma'am. We're not, that's

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not audience engagement. Sorry.

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thank you, mr. Mayor. Uh, michael, can, can you tell me the revenue

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generated by fence permitting for new

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builds developments in the city?

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so do you mean new houses developments in the city?

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uh, no, I cannot because we don't issue a separate permit for those. If it's for a new

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development, such as crossing for a new single family, um, residence,

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then that, uh, fence that's gonna be installed if a fence is installed, is

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part of the building permit for that home. So it's not separate. So that's fine. Within the

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building permit, that is actually a, a, a checkoff in the building

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permit, yes. That

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you can install on fence without a permit? No, they do have a permit

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for the house, which includes the fence.

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okay. A separate permit is not issued. When a new house is constructed.

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a preponderance of the developers or builders will include the fence

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as part of their sales package to the residence. And so they

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will have it on that set of plans. It's a flat fee to

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construct a house. It's the same fee whether they have a fence or not have a fence

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on that residential plans. So we don't track new build fences.

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so for the apartment complexes that are going up, uh, the fences are included in

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those plans as well. So there's no separate permit for a fence

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and fences for c five properties. What,

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what regulations associated with fences for c five? If it's a new build, it's part of that package,

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most likely. If it's not, it's an existing, uh, commercial,

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uh, building and they wanna install a fence, then they have to get a fence permit.

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so there is a regulation, however, for c five properties

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to have fences when adjoining or associated with

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the other neighborhoods. Is that correct? Yeah, it's in the code as you're well aware.

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it is in the code, yes. Okay. Thank you.

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any comments from the council? Yes, sir. What is a back to back fence,

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? So a back-to-back fence is when two neighbors right

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on the property line, essentially, most people install their fence for residential,

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um, six inches from their lot line or on the lot line.

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and then the neighbors can't get along and they want to each put up a

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fence, they install them back to back. And so the reason why the

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city, um, does not allow those is because generally if you have two

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wooden back to back fences, it creates a rat run.

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and so from a maintenance standpoint, you got a bunch of critters living back there and it's hard

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to, uh, get the grass cut between. So that's

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the general idea. Any other questions? Yes, ma'am. So

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in the last year, have things gone smoother? Do we have

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happier residents than we had when they were paying $85?

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'cause it really took a lot to get that done. The council really worked on it.

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so was it worth it or you feel like

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well, you put me on the spot. Yeah, try generally, uh, based on the feedback,

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I I, I really would say that there hasn't

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been that much, um, pushback. Well, not pushback. There hasn't

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been that much cheering either, is that people are gonna, there's still a $25

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permit fee. So 19 april. Yeah. I gotcha.

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okay. Thank you. Well,

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no other questions or comments? Uh, with that, uh, council member goldsby always has

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your back. Sorry, didn't resist that. Didn't resist

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that. Next come back to, um, public

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announcements. Uh, our announcements, I should say. Council and, uh, manager announcements.

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uh, this is the area where anything that on, on the agenda that may be of a community

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interest is free for free. Action. City manager. Announcement.

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first, I have no announcements. Thank you. Your announcement? I have a couple of three. The,

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uh, snow fest was this weekend, uh, we had great success, uh, great weather

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to go with it. Uh, it started out nice and cold, ended up being nice and warm, and

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I think just ticket sales were around the 5,000 mark, which was

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really good. Um, uh, also just fyi, uh, meals

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on wheels are, uh, in the local area. We have quite a few families

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that, uh, are supported by meals on wheels, and it's not disadvantaged individuals.

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there's people primarily that, uh, do not have the opportunity to have a three

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square meals a day type situation. Uh, I've assisted in volunteering

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in, uh, providing meals or, or delivering meals

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a couple of times. Uh, mar next month march is going to be the

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national meals on wheels month in the san antonio area, including, uh,

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outlying areas. And they're looking for volunteers that would like

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to divert. And I'm inviting the council to volunteer to

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help deliver in, in during the month. Any citizens that

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would like to also volunteer will be there also. I'm gonna leave this up here. We'll have it posted

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on our website so that the information is available for everyone.

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um, with that being said, I'll turn it over. Um, oh,

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I had the, so I started council member , do you have

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anything? Oh, yes. Thank you. Um, so regarding the coronado village,

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I reached out to a couple of the board members. Um, and it was

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interesting to see that the, uh, the two different,

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uh, schools of thought on, on

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what is happening back and forth, the, the play back

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and forth. But I, I do urge you to go out to the meetings,

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let them know, regardless of what mr. Brooks has said, um, they

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need to know your feelings, the information y'all put together and presented tonight.

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fantastic. That stuff is solid. That's what, that's, that's what we need

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to, you need to lead with at, at those, at that meeting. Um, both

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meetings. Um, make sure they, make sure they hear you, because

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what they also need to understand, and I said it last council meeting,

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is that judson can't really pass a bond without the support of universal

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city. So as long as, as long as they understand that, I

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think that, that, that's a, that's a, that's a heavy

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stick to, to take with you. So there's my 2 cents. Thank you, sir.

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very good. Ms. Bowman. Um, yeah, I appreciate

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everyone who came out. Like I said, last time you guys came out to, I owned a house

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in coronado. I lived on valencia. I lived right next to that school. I was neighbors with

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actually a lot of you. So I understand. I, I plan on being at both those meetings.

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I, my kind of position on it is from a fiscally financially

444
00:32:54,415 --> 00:32:58,405
sound thing, I just, I think the school should be closed. I just, like I said, I,

445
00:32:58,645 --> 00:33:02,565
I would be more than happy to come out and voice that opinion. I'm always for saving the taxpayers

446
00:33:02,965 --> 00:33:06,925
money. And I just feel like that's a real good way to do it. So, um, like I

447
00:33:07,005 --> 00:33:10,965
said, I'm gonna try to make both those meetings. I'll try to stand up and speak for you guys if they let

448
00:33:11,165 --> 00:33:15,075
me. And that's about it. Yes, councilman

449
00:33:18,035 --> 00:33:21,955
fest was amazing. We went in the afternoon. I couldn't believe it, but I wanna thank

450
00:33:22,155 --> 00:33:26,035
you all for coming. The presentation was, was great. I love that there wasn't a lot of

451
00:33:26,395 --> 00:33:30,395
repetitiveness that went on. So hopefully I'm going to plan on being there,

452
00:33:31,215 --> 00:33:35,155
um, to show support and to listen. But thank you all

453
00:33:35,355 --> 00:33:39,235
for coming. This is what we're about. .

454
00:33:39,935 --> 00:33:43,435
yes. Thank you. I'm gonna just reiterate, fest was awesome and I appreciate

455
00:33:44,055 --> 00:33:47,995
all of the efforts that went in from city staff and the volunteers. That event

456
00:33:48,235 --> 00:33:52,135
would never happen without everybody throwing in and having a great time. And it was nice to

457
00:33:52,355 --> 00:33:56,095
see. It was awesome to come out and walk out and watch everybody be happy. Um,

458
00:33:56,795 --> 00:34:00,675
coronado village people. I also live in coronado village, so it is a topic

459
00:34:00,875 --> 00:34:04,835
that's near and dear to my heart. I appreciate your passion and I appreciate your thoughtfulness

460
00:34:05,255 --> 00:34:08,825
and how much effort you put into the presentation. And as lori said, I appreciate know

461
00:34:09,705 --> 00:34:13,465
repeats, you know, you covered different topics. That's a great way to plan

462
00:34:13,755 --> 00:34:17,715
that out. Um, I also think we've encouraged you

463
00:34:17,795 --> 00:34:21,515
to go to the meetings to talk to the school board, to come to the town, um, town hall.

464
00:34:22,315 --> 00:34:26,275
I would also encourage you to either call or potentially email the cabinet because if you

465
00:34:26,355 --> 00:34:30,145
heard what dr. Brook, dr. Brooks said is the cabinets kind

466
00:34:30,435 --> 00:34:34,235
of talking about this right now. And they're gonna make a recommendation to the school board

467
00:34:34,475 --> 00:34:38,475
to vote. And so maybe you can also get in front of them before they make the

468
00:34:38,595 --> 00:34:41,755
recommendation or make sure that they understand that you're talking to them as well.

469
00:34:42,615 --> 00:34:46,515
um, and then I will not be in attendance, so I won't be there on thursday. 'cause I will also

470
00:34:46,715 --> 00:34:50,615
be with, um, mayor maxwell in austin at the texas policy

471
00:34:51,055 --> 00:34:54,335
summit. So thank you mr. Val. Yes.

472
00:34:58,535 --> 00:35:02,075
the reason why I moved to coronado village was because of the elementary

473
00:35:02,555 --> 00:35:06,355
school there, the safety of getting the kids, my kids to and from that school

474
00:35:06,595 --> 00:35:10,495
40 years ago. I'm the proud father of

475
00:35:10,895 --> 00:35:12,955
two judson valedictorians.

476
00:35:15,295 --> 00:35:18,675
so basically I can, I appreciate the way

477
00:35:20,275 --> 00:35:23,615
judson has provided for us in the past.

478
00:35:26,475 --> 00:35:29,325
I think the moves are in directions

479
00:35:31,975 --> 00:35:35,885
that are counter to residents, and I hope to

480
00:35:36,105 --> 00:35:39,555
support our residents at the monday meeting.

481
00:35:40,565 --> 00:35:44,485
I will be out of state for the thursday meeting, so I hope to be

482
00:35:44,645 --> 00:35:48,555
there. And, um, uh, this pen, uh, will

483
00:35:48,845 --> 00:35:52,045
write on a piece of paper that, uh, uh, you circulate tonight.

484
00:35:55,945 --> 00:35:58,735
oh, one more, right. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Mr. Mayor.

485
00:36:00,795 --> 00:36:04,745
okay. Almost forgot. . Mr. Mayor, fellow

486
00:36:05,165 --> 00:36:08,955
council members, I move to change ordinance 5 8 1

487
00:36:10,085 --> 00:36:13,085
y 2 0 3, uh, two three.

488
00:36:14,585 --> 00:36:18,525
uh, this is the fence ordinance. The reason for the change is fence maintenance

489
00:36:19,185 --> 00:36:22,985
and fence repair remain issues within our city, not

490
00:36:23,235 --> 00:36:26,605
only for the aesthetics of our neighborhoods, but also for the safety,

491
00:36:27,365 --> 00:36:30,835
security, and privacy of our residents. Prior councils

492
00:36:31,465 --> 00:36:34,995
have made efforts to streamline our fencing ordinance and express

493
00:36:35,555 --> 00:36:39,535
concerns regarding the repair or maintenance that alters the

494
00:36:39,755 --> 00:36:43,535
fence, the ground clearance, uh, for stormwater runoff.

495
00:36:45,565 --> 00:36:48,425
the suggested change to this ordinance preserves

496
00:36:50,165 --> 00:36:54,165
the concerns of former council members and simplifies the

497
00:36:54,385 --> 00:36:58,125
definition of allowable fence repair for our residents to be

498
00:36:58,965 --> 00:37:02,825
in kind, repair and replacement. The ladder

499
00:37:03,775 --> 00:37:07,275
removes arbitrary rules for the number of pickets and posts,

500
00:37:08,575 --> 00:37:12,095
reduces the, uh, burden of permit fees for in-kind

501
00:37:12,585 --> 00:37:16,405
replacement for residents and encourages fence repair

502
00:37:16,825 --> 00:37:20,805
throughout our city. It simplifies the definition

503
00:37:21,425 --> 00:37:24,525
of allowable fence repair. Finally,

504
00:37:26,035 --> 00:37:29,715
it removes some of the time burden for inspections, uh,

505
00:37:30,195 --> 00:37:33,295
uh, for which our city now contracts services,

506
00:37:34,355 --> 00:37:38,045
uh, uh, uh, from, uh, develop, uh, from development

507
00:37:39,015 --> 00:37:42,175
services. I specifically recommend

508
00:37:43,685 --> 00:37:47,355
that the $25 permit fee

509
00:37:48,275 --> 00:37:51,445
be deleted. That the concerns

510
00:37:52,665 --> 00:37:56,495
for fence construction, uh, uh, with regard to water

511
00:37:57,145 --> 00:37:59,965
runoff be placed in the permitting column,

512
00:38:02,235 --> 00:38:05,725
that the in kind replacement within the center

513
00:38:06,355 --> 00:38:10,075
tier be placed within the permit free,

514
00:38:11,345 --> 00:38:14,505
uh, column. I've made specific recommendations

515
00:38:15,865 --> 00:38:19,755
for line item changes to this effect. It

516
00:38:20,105 --> 00:38:23,795
eliminates the arbitrary designation of

517
00:38:24,575 --> 00:38:28,265
17, of, of 17 pickets and two posts.

518
00:38:29,535 --> 00:38:32,535
I offer this for the council's consideration for a second

519
00:38:33,555 --> 00:38:37,545
to, uh, discuss and, uh, put on a future agenda,

520
00:38:38,705 --> 00:38:42,375
uh, to change, uh, this ordinance. Thank

521
00:38:42,725 --> 00:38:46,335
you, mr. Mayor. So our request has been made to, uh, put this on an additional

522
00:38:47,105 --> 00:38:49,755
agenda. I discussion with that. So, discussion.

523
00:38:51,455 --> 00:38:55,455
we can talk about this just, uh, yes, no, for the agenda. If

524
00:38:55,675 --> 00:38:59,515
you wanna object for agenda. Can I say why? I'm gonna say no. I may, you may say

525
00:38:59,855 --> 00:39:03,595
yes. Um, arbitrary is a very frustrating word to hear

526
00:39:04,575 --> 00:39:06,685
as one of the council members who spent hours

527
00:39:08,755 --> 00:39:11,995
more than a few hours talking and listening

528
00:39:13,185 --> 00:39:16,545
and negotiating back and forth on how

529
00:39:17,305 --> 00:39:19,895
we took six people plus staff,

530
00:39:22,055 --> 00:39:26,045
staff, staff, staff and staff to come up with

531
00:39:26,325 --> 00:39:29,155
a solution that met everybody's

532
00:39:30,655 --> 00:39:34,325
needs. It not only took care of what mr.

533
00:39:34,705 --> 00:39:38,565
casada was talking about, about how, you know, look, this is a lot. We, there's

534
00:39:38,965 --> 00:39:42,665
a lot of revenue that is lost on that. Well, the city's not in the business of making

535
00:39:43,085 --> 00:39:47,085
revenue. We, we try to break even, but we decided,

536
00:39:47,625 --> 00:39:51,485
you know what, let's take one for the citizens and we'll find, we'll, we'll,

537
00:39:51,725 --> 00:39:55,545
we'll, we'll pull that down. Arbitrary. It's not arbitrary.

538
00:39:56,085 --> 00:39:59,985
the 17 pickets is, uh, basically the number of pickets on

539
00:40:00,145 --> 00:40:02,965
a, on sections of fence. So

540
00:40:05,175 --> 00:40:08,665
all of it is not arbitrary. There's not,

541
00:40:09,585 --> 00:40:12,505
I don't know any of it that's arbitrary. I think a lot of it was negotiation

542
00:40:13,925 --> 00:40:17,695
and compromise. So, no, I can't

543
00:40:18,015 --> 00:40:21,615
get behind, spend another hour on a fence

544
00:40:23,215 --> 00:40:26,615
ordinance, mr. Mayor,

545
00:40:27,535 --> 00:40:30,395
point of order. I believe once a motion is made

546
00:40:31,575 --> 00:40:35,315
and it's been seconded, it's open for discussion. And the discussion

547
00:40:35,975 --> 00:40:39,375
at this point would be to consider it for

548
00:40:40,115 --> 00:40:43,755
a, a future agenda. That's what we're considering right now. He's just giving, he's giving his, uh, his opinion

549
00:40:44,185 --> 00:40:48,155
with his, uh, with his answer. So, uh, we know your yes, and we know

550
00:40:48,315 --> 00:40:52,195
that, uh, uh, ms. Bowman's a yes for, for adding it. So I'm just taking

551
00:40:52,415 --> 00:40:56,405
the votes. Now, this is not an agenda item, so I'm not making an agenda item.

552
00:40:57,025 --> 00:41:00,725
I'm making it, giving it the opportunity to be a future agenda

553
00:41:01,125 --> 00:41:05,105
item based on the council. I'm not making a decision. So

554
00:41:05,385 --> 00:41:08,395
now, so I'm assuming you're a yes. Yes. Okay,

555
00:41:09,665 --> 00:41:13,525
ms. Bud, I'm a, no. I sat in here and listened to

556
00:41:13,685 --> 00:41:17,685
every painful word for many painful hours, and I think there's a lot

557
00:41:17,765 --> 00:41:21,635
more important things that we can do on this dais. I believe what

558
00:41:21,945 --> 00:41:25,865
we saw today that there really isn't a problem. And

559
00:41:26,085 --> 00:41:28,195
we're, we're getting into the weeds really deep

560
00:41:30,915 --> 00:41:34,835
, ditto and no. Okay. Consensus

561
00:41:35,115 --> 00:41:37,745
that the, uh, of the counsel is a no move.

562
00:41:39,135 --> 00:41:43,095
uh, action items. Uh, first item up is the, uh, audit for

563
00:41:43,355 --> 00:41:47,255
fy 2024. Thank you. Uh,

564
00:41:47,935 --> 00:41:51,655
ms. David presentation. This, uh, she

565
00:41:51,955 --> 00:41:55,735
along with janet. We have the consent agenda first. Oh,

566
00:41:55,995 --> 00:41:58,475
I apologize. We do, we have the minutes. Thank you, maribel.

567
00:42:02,155 --> 00:42:06,035
I made my apologies. Uh, I made a check mark and

568
00:42:08,345 --> 00:42:12,275
then I looked at cross side item eight. We need a vote

569
00:42:12,475 --> 00:42:16,315
on the consent item. Consent item. Uh, the agenda is strictly

570
00:42:16,775 --> 00:42:19,875
one item only if there's any disagreements. Thank you, .

571
00:42:22,105 --> 00:42:25,555
move to approve. Second. Uh, any discussion?

572
00:42:26,745 --> 00:42:29,955
call for the vote. Mayor per fitzpatrick aye.

573
00:42:30,925 --> 00:42:34,845
council member goldsby aye. Council member bowman aye. Council member putt

574
00:42:35,355 --> 00:42:39,015
aye. Council member rubal aye. Motion carried. Thank you.

575
00:42:39,795 --> 00:42:43,445
now, now item, um, this item

576
00:42:43,835 --> 00:42:47,255
on the honor. I'll be required to do a motion to accept the honor

577
00:42:48,195 --> 00:42:52,015
and after presentation, and while that presentation is coming up, mayor, maybe

578
00:42:52,295 --> 00:42:55,855
just for the audience, I'll remind them that one of the things the city does annually

579
00:42:56,675 --> 00:43:00,555
is we bring in an outside agency to go through our financial records to

580
00:43:00,775 --> 00:43:04,695
make sure that we are appropriately, uh, placing the funds where they

581
00:43:04,895 --> 00:43:08,675
need to be and the expenses and the revenues, and that we

582
00:43:09,085 --> 00:43:13,055
have, uh, good accounting practices, uh, not only in the

583
00:43:13,175 --> 00:43:17,055
books, but how the division of duties happens among staff, so that there is no,

584
00:43:17,715 --> 00:43:21,705
uh, chance for collusion that'll leave. Selena. Thank you. Thank

585
00:43:22,055 --> 00:43:25,915
you very much for having us. I'm selena jones. I'm a senior audit manager at a bip. And

586
00:43:26,135 --> 00:43:29,855
this is janet pittman. She's the, um, partner in charge of the audit. We audited the financial

587
00:43:30,255 --> 00:43:34,195
statements of the city for the year, ended september 30th, 2024, and

588
00:43:34,415 --> 00:43:38,255
issued an annual financial report for that period. Um, there's several things in that financial

589
00:43:38,695 --> 00:43:42,335
report. There's an independent auditor's report, which is, thank you.

590
00:43:43,585 --> 00:43:47,515
can't do two things at once. . Um, okay. Thank you. Um,

591
00:43:47,735 --> 00:43:51,215
there's the independent auditor's report. There's management's discussion and analysis.

592
00:43:51,795 --> 00:43:55,295
um, there's government wide financial statements, which are converted from the fund financial

593
00:43:55,895 --> 00:43:59,895
statements. There's some notes to the financial statements that gives you additional information and clarifies

594
00:44:00,415 --> 00:44:03,575
those numbers for you. There's some required supplementary information,

595
00:44:04,445 --> 00:44:08,255
such as comparative statements, um, information related to pension and oped,

596
00:44:08,455 --> 00:44:12,455
things like that. There's also some other supplementary information and statistics in the

597
00:44:12,575 --> 00:44:16,395
back. And then there's a compliance section. A part of our audit also included a compliance, um,

598
00:44:16,615 --> 00:44:20,595
some compliance testing. Um, the independent auditor's report is

599
00:44:20,815 --> 00:44:24,375
the letter that we issue. It's page one through three. Um, there's a lot of information

600
00:44:24,855 --> 00:44:28,735
on that report. The most important thing is our opinion. Um, the audit standards that we

601
00:44:28,975 --> 00:44:32,905
followed were gap or generally accepted, um, auditing standards. We also, um,

602
00:44:33,325 --> 00:44:37,225
followed government auditing standards and we also followed uniform guidance. And

603
00:44:37,445 --> 00:44:41,165
the purpose of our audit was to form an independent opinion on whether the financial statements

604
00:44:41,545 --> 00:44:45,085
are presented in accordance with those standards. And our audit opinion is unmodified,

605
00:44:45,645 --> 00:44:49,525
meaning, yes, we found that our opinion is that those financial statements

606
00:44:49,845 --> 00:44:53,825
are presented in accordance with those standards. Um,

607
00:44:54,065 --> 00:44:57,965
the management's discussion and analysis has some really good information for you on kind of how to read

608
00:44:58,125 --> 00:45:02,045
the financial statements and kind of the different information that's included there. Um, there's

609
00:45:02,365 --> 00:45:05,805
some financial highlights. Um, and again, this is management's analysis and discussion.

610
00:45:06,475 --> 00:45:10,165
there's an overview of the financial statements. There's discussion about the government

611
00:45:10,525 --> 00:45:14,425
wide, the converted, which includes long-term assets and liabilities. And there's also, um,

612
00:45:14,645 --> 00:45:18,605
some analysis of the city fund financial statements. You'll also see some budgetary

613
00:45:19,045 --> 00:45:22,775
highlights and then some information about your capital assets and debt, those

614
00:45:23,125 --> 00:45:27,125
long-term liabilities and assets that show up on your converted, um, government-wide financials.

615
00:45:27,945 --> 00:45:31,945
and then there's information on, if you want more information about the, um, financial statements, you

616
00:45:32,165 --> 00:45:35,845
can get that there. I'm gonna briefly go over some financial

617
00:45:36,365 --> 00:45:40,315
highlights, and at the end, if you have any questions, let us know. First I'm gonna

618
00:45:40,395 --> 00:45:44,195
talk about the government-wide financial statements. The assets of the city exceeded the liabilities

619
00:45:44,655 --> 00:45:46,835
or its net position by 101.2 million

620
00:45:48,775 --> 00:45:51,565
as of september 30th, 2024. 46.7 million

621
00:45:52,955 --> 00:45:56,955
of that is government activities. 54.5 million has been

622
00:45:57,475 --> 00:46:01,275
business type activities such as the water storm, storm water, utilities, things

623
00:46:01,595 --> 00:46:05,035
like that. In the golf course, your net position during 2024

624
00:46:06,065 --> 00:46:08,925
increased by 8.5 million from the prior year. 3.4 million

625
00:46:10,115 --> 00:46:13,995
of that was in governmental activities, and 5.1 million of that was

626
00:46:14,155 --> 00:46:18,035
in business type activities. Um, the governmental increase was primarily due to an

627
00:46:18,275 --> 00:46:22,035
increase in some sales tax. You had additional investment earnings. Um, same thing with

628
00:46:22,515 --> 00:46:26,515
business type activities. There were some additional investment earnings and there was also transfer from the

629
00:46:26,715 --> 00:46:28,395
governmental activities to the business type activities.

630
00:46:31,915 --> 00:46:35,615
on pages 18 and 19. Um, there is information on your governmental funds.

631
00:46:37,155 --> 00:46:40,835
our total fund balance was 30.5 million. And again, this is, um,

632
00:46:41,745 --> 00:46:45,635
prior to the conversion. So this is just fund level. Your unassigned fund balance was

633
00:46:46,095 --> 00:46:49,925
17.2 million and 17.1 million. Almost all of that is in your general fund.

634
00:46:50,715 --> 00:46:54,565
if you do a calculation for operating reserves and you exclude your capital outlay, that

635
00:46:54,855 --> 00:46:58,815
equals about 13 months worth of ex operating expenses. Last year,

636
00:46:58,975 --> 00:47:02,975
it was, uh, 12 months. Your restricted fund balance in the general fund

637
00:47:03,255 --> 00:47:07,205
is 216,000. Capital projects is 10.3 million. Debt

638
00:47:07,495 --> 00:47:11,375
service is 765,000. And, um, other special revenue fund is

639
00:47:11,535 --> 00:47:13,855
1.6 million. So you do have some restricted funds in there.

640
00:47:17,855 --> 00:47:21,605
some additional information about your fund financial statements regarding revenue. Revenue was,

641
00:47:21,885 --> 00:47:25,585
um, 26 million for the year, which was a $4.6 million increase.

642
00:47:26,085 --> 00:47:29,845
it was kind of a variety of reasons. Your ad valor tax increased by 730,000,

643
00:47:31,065 --> 00:47:34,955
and that's more due to an allocation between debt service and the general fund. Your

644
00:47:35,245 --> 00:47:38,445
sales tax increased by 174,000. Your investment earnings increased.

645
00:47:39,355 --> 00:47:43,345
general funds revenue was 18.6 million. On paper, it

646
00:47:43,565 --> 00:47:47,455
looks like a reduction, but the reason for that is we pulled out some special revenue funds

647
00:47:47,905 --> 00:47:51,885
out of the general fund in the current year. We're showing them separately now, so it looks like

648
00:47:52,045 --> 00:47:55,945
it's a reduction, but it's not. Truly, there was a 2.2 million of revenue that was now shown as

649
00:47:56,255 --> 00:47:58,735
other, um, other, um, special revenue funds.

650
00:48:02,265 --> 00:48:05,405
um, some information about your expenditures. Expenditures were 18.3 million

651
00:48:06,305 --> 00:48:10,265
for the year, which was a $997,000 increase, primarily due

652
00:48:10,485 --> 00:48:14,405
to three areas. The police, um, expenses increased, fire expenses

653
00:48:14,525 --> 00:48:18,405
increased, and your capital outlay increased, um, by about

654
00:48:18,605 --> 00:48:22,545
300,000, um, roughly for each of those. We also pulled out some non-departmental

655
00:48:23,405 --> 00:48:26,485
stuff out of administration, so it just shows separately. Now,

656
00:48:29,625 --> 00:48:32,775
the next set of financial statements are your proprietary funds, which is water sewer.

657
00:48:33,745 --> 00:48:37,645
um, you'll also notice that we pulled out water impact fees during the current year so that it's

658
00:48:37,845 --> 00:48:41,245
showing separately. So you'll see additional funds under proprietary funds.

659
00:48:42,155 --> 00:48:46,085
your water and sewer fund net position was 40.8 million, which was an

660
00:48:46,405 --> 00:48:50,085
increase of 1.3 million. Um, 8.4 million of that is unrestricted.

661
00:48:50,805 --> 00:48:54,805
32.4 million is net investments in capital assets. Your water

662
00:48:55,045 --> 00:48:58,895
impact fees, which is one of those new funds, this 2.6 million net position sewer

663
00:48:59,245 --> 00:49:02,985
impact fees, 542,000, um, net

664
00:49:03,405 --> 00:49:07,105
position. And both of those are restricted for that use. Your stormwater fund net

665
00:49:07,485 --> 00:49:11,265
position is 8 million, which was an increase of 722,000. 1.2 million

666
00:49:12,085 --> 00:49:15,365
is unrestricted. 6.8 million is investment in capital assets.

667
00:49:16,235 --> 00:49:20,125
your golf fund 2.5 million net position, which was

668
00:49:20,325 --> 00:49:24,165
a slight decrease of 109002.1 million of that is unrestricted

669
00:49:24,845 --> 00:49:26,645
and your net investment in capital assets is 383,000.

670
00:49:30,465 --> 00:49:34,385
lastly that the on page 1 29 to 1 32 was our compliance audit, and

671
00:49:34,605 --> 00:49:38,285
we issued two letters related to that. We did, um, an independent

672
00:49:38,845 --> 00:49:42,605
auditor's report based on government auditing standards, and we found that there were no material weaknesses

673
00:49:43,025 --> 00:49:46,685
and internal controls to report. We also, um, issued a letter on uniform

674
00:49:47,205 --> 00:49:50,755
guidance complied examination on some federal funding that was spent. We also,

675
00:49:51,305 --> 00:49:55,245
uh, found that there were no findings or question cost and that the city complied with all

676
00:49:55,725 --> 00:49:59,645
specific requirements to those guidance. And that's

677
00:49:59,965 --> 00:50:03,805
everything in the presentation, but we'll obviously answer, um, open

678
00:50:04,045 --> 00:50:07,905
it for questions if you have anything. Thank you. Any questions? Yes.

679
00:50:08,465 --> 00:50:12,325
um, so councilman v can't be here tonight, but he did post

680
00:50:12,525 --> 00:50:16,285
on the message board and I thought it was worth the question to ask since

681
00:50:16,565 --> 00:50:20,365
he brought it up. Um, so we had decided at city council

682
00:50:20,755 --> 00:50:24,685
that we had approved $550,000 of the venue tax to

683
00:50:24,845 --> 00:50:28,705
go to the general fund, but instead it shows only 349. 237

684
00:50:29,795 --> 00:50:33,705
went into it. I was just wondering if we could get an answer on absolutely. Um,

685
00:50:34,225 --> 00:50:38,085
we, we did look at that today. This is the draft and that was one change that we did make. It's the only change

686
00:50:38,325 --> 00:50:42,205
that we made in between the draft that you received and the, um, the draft that the final

687
00:50:42,485 --> 00:50:46,445
version that you'll get. Um, that transfer was kind of recorded as a,

688
00:50:46,745 --> 00:50:50,645
it was recorded as a transfer back rather than a due to due from. So we made that

689
00:50:50,765 --> 00:50:54,725
correction and now the transfer shows the full 550,000 and there's a

690
00:50:54,805 --> 00:50:58,515
due to due fund that kind of cancels each other out between the special revenue fund and the general fund.

691
00:50:59,025 --> 00:51:02,845
so that's resolved. Okay. And you'll see that on the new, um, financial statements when they come out.

692
00:51:03,985 --> 00:51:07,765
can you explain the reasoning why? Yeah. The reason is, is because you changed to pool cash

693
00:51:08,005 --> 00:51:11,825
this year, um, which is a little bit different from what you've done in the past. Um, so every, all

694
00:51:12,045 --> 00:51:15,965
cash is kind of combined and at the end of the audit we saw that there was a negative balance

695
00:51:16,385 --> 00:51:19,505
in cash for that fund and we needed to fix that and we

696
00:51:20,445 --> 00:51:24,245
recorded it as a transfer back. Instead, we needed to record it as a due to due from,

697
00:51:24,625 --> 00:51:28,585
so that money will show as money due from a special revenue fund to

698
00:51:28,805 --> 00:51:32,315
the general fund. And it was probably paid back the, um, october 1st

699
00:51:33,365 --> 00:51:37,045
, you know, it was probably already taken care of, but on that specific date, we just needed to record it differently.

700
00:51:38,465 --> 00:51:41,935
okay. It, that's it. Yes.

701
00:51:42,945 --> 00:51:46,115
yeah. Yes ma'am. Thank you. Uh, actually I spent hours

702
00:51:47,325 --> 00:51:50,975
going through, uh, this report more hours than spent on

703
00:51:51,335 --> 00:51:55,235
on prior offenses, but in in any,

704
00:51:55,535 --> 00:51:58,695
in any case, I really applaud, uh,

705
00:51:59,615 --> 00:52:03,115
the, uh, uh, your organization, uh, for putting

706
00:52:03,655 --> 00:52:07,255
the text and the definitions, uh, within this report.

707
00:52:08,535 --> 00:52:12,355
um, even though government accounting is different

708
00:52:12,675 --> 00:52:16,315
than business accounting and different than cash accounting in your checkbook,

709
00:52:17,695 --> 00:52:21,375
it almost is understandable. And, and

710
00:52:21,825 --> 00:52:25,675
basically, um, the, the frame that I'd like to understand,

711
00:52:26,415 --> 00:52:30,315
and here you express however the information frame, if you will,

712
00:52:31,295 --> 00:52:33,195
is when, when we look at an audit,

713
00:52:35,475 --> 00:52:39,335
my impression, especially from the data that you've

714
00:52:39,855 --> 00:52:43,775
provided, uh, is that the standards for auditing

715
00:52:44,705 --> 00:52:48,165
allow us to look at this snapshot in time.

716
00:52:49,675 --> 00:52:53,085
the snapshot in time is defined by fiscal year, which unfortunately,

717
00:52:55,195 --> 00:52:58,845
uh, new council members will find overlaps, council

718
00:52:59,465 --> 00:53:03,315
years type thing. They're not congruous. So

719
00:53:03,805 --> 00:53:07,215
basically there, there are items and issues in this budget

720
00:53:08,085 --> 00:53:11,745
that weren't approved by this council as a group. There,

721
00:53:12,095 --> 00:53:16,095
there members of diocese that we're here. The second

722
00:53:16,425 --> 00:53:20,235
thing that is important for us

723
00:53:20,635 --> 00:53:23,775
to interpret, I think, and this is very much your feedback,

724
00:53:24,795 --> 00:53:28,035
is that there's relatively limited

725
00:53:29,415 --> 00:53:32,125
value in the snapshot

726
00:53:33,425 --> 00:53:36,845
in looking at long-term debt payment

727
00:53:37,585 --> 00:53:41,375
that's not declared in existing bonds or other

728
00:53:41,975 --> 00:53:45,515
tools, financial tools. So therefore,

729
00:53:47,185 --> 00:53:50,985
the, for example, uh, infrastructure debt of

730
00:53:51,205 --> 00:53:54,405
the city where a hundred streets

731
00:53:55,475 --> 00:53:58,905
need repair is not in any way

732
00:53:59,745 --> 00:54:03,745
in this report. So that when we look at, at, at, at

733
00:54:03,965 --> 00:54:07,885
$30 million to play with some being

734
00:54:08,405 --> 00:54:12,065
restricted funds, uh, type thing, it's, it's really not

735
00:54:12,615 --> 00:54:16,595
there necessarily this, this is a snapshot. Correct.

736
00:54:17,585 --> 00:54:21,385
the other thing I have difficulty with is understanding how,

737
00:54:22,625 --> 00:54:26,505
uh, pensions are derived the

738
00:54:26,725 --> 00:54:30,425
impact of pensions on, on, uh, on the yearly

739
00:54:30,895 --> 00:54:34,415
audit since they're projected forward. So, right.

740
00:54:34,905 --> 00:54:38,765
can you, can you give some insight to me and perhaps other council members

741
00:54:39,145 --> 00:54:43,085
on that? So as, as auditors, we're kind of, we're looking back, we're looking at history

742
00:54:43,525 --> 00:54:47,525
and back as, as the city council, you're looking forward and you're thinking about things forward,

743
00:54:47,845 --> 00:54:51,785
but there is some really valuable information in those financial statements for you. The first is

744
00:54:52,005 --> 00:54:55,965
the conversion and you see what those long-term liabilities and assets are. You don't necessarily need

745
00:54:56,205 --> 00:54:59,925
to see those when you're looking at your budget to actual and when you're budgeting operating expenses.

746
00:55:00,505 --> 00:55:04,385
but it is, you're right, it is valuable and I'm sure everybody is looking at those requirements and

747
00:55:04,605 --> 00:55:07,925
there's a notes to the financial statement that gives, um, those requirements

748
00:55:08,665 --> 00:55:12,565
by year. It gives you a complete breakdown. There's also the, the statistical section

749
00:55:13,105 --> 00:55:17,085
in the back, which gives you patterns and you can kind of see patterns in the past and you

750
00:55:17,205 --> 00:55:21,085
can see where, um, the debt has increased or decreased. So there is information

751
00:55:21,605 --> 00:55:25,525
that will help inform your decisions moving forward. Um, so I hope that answers your

752
00:55:25,925 --> 00:55:29,925
question about that. Um, it is two different things and we're talking about september 30th, 2024

753
00:55:31,205 --> 00:55:35,145
and you, you all are moving forward and you've already gone through the budget process. Um, but

754
00:55:35,365 --> 00:55:39,325
there is really valuable information, um, if you dig into it as far as pensions

755
00:55:39,765 --> 00:55:43,555
and eps. Um, we get those directly every year, um, from

756
00:55:44,465 --> 00:55:48,265
the organization and they use actuarial assumptions every year. It

757
00:55:48,485 --> 00:55:52,485
changes every year. Investments, the way they invest change every year. And you can

758
00:55:52,605 --> 00:55:56,605
look in the back, there's statistical tables for pensions and opep that shows you

759
00:55:56,905 --> 00:56:00,645
how those liabilities have increased or decreased. And you can see where those transitions

760
00:56:01,325 --> 00:56:05,265
have happened. Those are a little bit harder to predict, um,

761
00:56:05,835 --> 00:56:09,625
just because it's such a moving target with those types of things. Um, and

762
00:56:09,845 --> 00:56:13,445
we don't really know that until they've completed their actuarial actuarial assumptions

763
00:56:14,025 --> 00:56:17,765
and made changes. Sometimes they may change how they look at one little thing and it makes a number

764
00:56:18,075 --> 00:56:21,905
drop or increase or anything. So december, do

765
00:56:22,125 --> 00:56:25,765
what the report is december prior to the audit. Yes. And there's some timing issues too, because

766
00:56:26,155 --> 00:56:30,125
that report is as of december 30th every year. So there was a

767
00:56:30,245 --> 00:56:33,805
little bit of a leeway between your year end and their year. So it is a little bit of a complicated,

768
00:56:34,865 --> 00:56:38,675
um, calculation. Um, we do it carefully every year. Those, that

769
00:56:38,965 --> 00:56:42,705
information comes directly from pension and . Um,

770
00:56:43,105 --> 00:56:47,035
so do you have anything else to add? I don't. Okay. No. And the, the, in the last very

771
00:56:47,415 --> 00:56:51,075
basic question is essentially the standard used

772
00:56:51,505 --> 00:56:54,645
by auditors is actually the way I understand

773
00:56:56,155 --> 00:57:00,005
reading about things, uh, on online a little bit worse place

774
00:57:00,245 --> 00:57:04,205
to the go, I know essentially is that it is a moving standard.

775
00:57:04,435 --> 00:57:08,205
there's improved transparency. I've gone through

776
00:57:08,825 --> 00:57:12,685
20 years of city audits and there's definitely improved transparency

777
00:57:13,625 --> 00:57:17,545
as we're, as we move forward. Yeah. And do you see trends in

778
00:57:17,825 --> 00:57:21,355
future audits in this, in this direction? Every year they're,

779
00:57:21,845 --> 00:57:25,765
they're, um, they're sending us updated guidance every year. We have a new

780
00:57:25,925 --> 00:57:29,155
gasb that we have to worry about implement. Yeah.

781
00:57:30,385 --> 00:57:33,325
um, is it 1 0 1 vacation for compensated absences?

782
00:57:34,465 --> 00:57:38,345
so we kind of have to be looking down the pipeline. This is gonna be affecting our clients in one year, two

783
00:57:38,565 --> 00:57:42,355
year, three year, five years. We kind of, so we wanna start talking about those with,

784
00:57:42,645 --> 00:57:46,445
uh, the cities to make sure that we're on top of those things and we're not kind of, um, chasing them.

785
00:57:46,685 --> 00:57:50,005
we're on top of them or expecting them. We know what changes they're gonna, what they're gonna affect.

786
00:57:51,375 --> 00:57:54,565
again, I'm very pleased with this, with this presentation

787
00:57:55,565 --> 00:57:59,165
of amp, the report and the data. I'm very pleased with our financial

788
00:57:59,765 --> 00:58:03,685
officer. Yes. Who works with you. I wanna definitely commend, um, christine and

789
00:58:03,845 --> 00:58:07,765
thank and the team. They, they did a great job. The audit was, um, it, we had a, you

790
00:58:07,965 --> 00:58:11,905
know, a really good experience. Very time. Yeah. Everything was, I went really as smoothly as

791
00:58:12,125 --> 00:58:15,815
it could. Um, and they do a great job of getting us the information that we need. Thank

792
00:58:16,165 --> 00:58:20,105
you. And mrs. Turner's very involved. She looks at all the numbers. . Yes.

793
00:58:21,385 --> 00:58:25,065
no comments. Yeah, I know. We moved some money to

794
00:58:25,585 --> 00:58:29,565
do better. Was this related to what we talked voted at the last meeting for transparency

795
00:58:30,445 --> 00:58:34,325
purposes. Special revenues. Yeah. So so moving some of the money out so

796
00:58:34,485 --> 00:58:37,425
it didn't match up exactly. And that's where, where, um,

797
00:58:38,805 --> 00:58:42,695
selena and janet put it into non-major to, to show

798
00:58:42,895 --> 00:58:46,815
us that we really couldn't be using it within the general fund. That vote made so much more

799
00:58:46,935 --> 00:58:50,855
sense once I saw this and saw what you had done. So thank you for kind of teeing that up for

800
00:58:51,055 --> 00:58:54,875
us. And there is a whole schedule in the back that gives you every single fund a breakdown so

801
00:58:55,095 --> 00:58:58,855
you know exactly what's in there and what's happening. Yeah. Thank you. Used to read all 124.

802
00:58:59,675 --> 00:59:03,615
you mean you don't read? Absolutely. I have memorized part of it, but I have

803
00:59:03,775 --> 00:59:07,775
to give kudos to the council as well. You know, we've always offered for people to come in and go over

804
00:59:08,115 --> 00:59:11,815
the audit with christine and I, and, you know, kudos,

805
00:59:12,135 --> 00:59:15,975
every council member made an effort this year to ask questions about the

806
00:59:16,175 --> 00:59:19,975
audit or to meet with us and or, you know, sought advice elsewhere

807
00:59:20,635 --> 00:59:24,445
on the audit. And we greatly appreciate that because it makes our job easier

808
00:59:24,955 --> 00:59:28,475
when we know what you're questioning, what you're thinking about. Because

809
00:59:28,965 --> 00:59:32,645
sometimes when you ask a question, it forces us to find a

810
00:59:33,305 --> 00:59:37,305
non accounting terms to explain it to everybody and it takes us back to basics.

811
00:59:37,725 --> 00:59:41,565
so, uh, kudos to all of you for that. So I really appreciate it. And then

812
00:59:41,795 --> 00:59:45,725
also maybe an apology. So, you know, since christine and I have gotten here, we have

813
00:59:45,845 --> 00:59:49,765
done a lot to change the budget process. I mean, some of you have been here with us

814
00:59:49,905 --> 00:59:53,595
the whole time. It's been a lot of change in the budget, which then made

815
00:59:54,005 --> 00:59:57,785
a lot of changes in the audit. And then we even made more changes in the audit to

816
00:59:58,285 --> 01:00:02,145
try to make it a little more transparent. So, um, our desire, our

817
01:00:02,365 --> 01:00:06,325
hope, our wish is that at some point we will have absolutely nailed down

818
01:00:06,625 --> 01:00:10,485
the perfect budget process for you and have an audit

819
01:00:10,835 --> 01:00:12,725
that looks the same three years in a row.

820
01:00:15,435 --> 01:00:19,215
ms, you still make money? Oh, I'm sorry, .

821
01:00:20,375 --> 01:00:24,295
I was, I was just gonna, I wanted the audience to know that we are invited

822
01:00:24,755 --> 01:00:28,575
to go and sit with them and they explain it until the thickness

823
01:00:29,985 --> 01:00:33,975
works. They explain it in layman's terms. You know, not all of us

824
01:00:34,055 --> 01:00:37,935
can look at the numbers and really understand what you're going and when we leave,

825
01:00:38,915 --> 01:00:42,585
our answers are our questions are answered. So yes, kudos

826
01:00:42,935 --> 01:00:46,455
to them for being able to explain it to us and make us really understand

827
01:00:47,015 --> 01:00:51,015
what's going on. That being said, uh, call for call for a

828
01:00:51,095 --> 01:00:54,615
motion to accept. Motion to accept.

829
01:00:55,275 --> 01:00:59,065
second, second. Second. And take bernies. I think there's been enough discussion. We'll

830
01:00:59,925 --> 01:01:03,875
call for the vote. Who is the second? Bernie. Bernie. Okay. Mr.

831
01:01:04,225 --> 01:01:08,105
rubal. Uh, council member goldbe aye. Council member rubal

832
01:01:08,875 --> 01:01:12,855
aye. Council member mayor. Aye. Council member

833
01:01:13,295 --> 01:01:15,855
bowman aye. Council member po aye. Motion carried.

834
01:01:17,385 --> 01:01:21,255
super jones. Ms. Pitman, thank you for so much and I must tell

835
01:01:21,535 --> 01:01:25,455
you, we yes, we have improved. I remember when I first got on council in 19, uh,

836
01:01:25,675 --> 01:01:29,135
the councilman's 2010, it was the most

837
01:01:29,725 --> 01:01:33,515
laborsome concept of trying to do an, not an audit, but

838
01:01:33,735 --> 01:01:37,635
trying to do the budget. And it lasted the entire summer. We had elected in may and

839
01:01:37,885 --> 01:01:41,775
we'd june, july, august, september, every every council

840
01:01:42,215 --> 01:01:46,165
members and probably an extra one each month was just for the

841
01:01:46,245 --> 01:01:49,725
budget. And yes, we've improved a lot, but thank you very much.

842
01:01:50,935 --> 01:01:54,525
thank you. Next item, ordinance

843
01:01:55,345 --> 01:01:59,205
6 55 t 2025. This specific

844
01:01:59,465 --> 01:02:03,205
use permit 4 36 and 38 east

845
01:02:03,485 --> 01:02:07,365
wright boulevard. Second reading. Yes. As you know, we had a first reading

846
01:02:07,745 --> 01:02:11,655
on this last time. There was a lot of discussion. Uh, the council asked

847
01:02:12,065 --> 01:02:15,525
for some modifications, uh, to the sup

848
01:02:16,945 --> 01:02:20,565
and I think michael's just gonna give you, uh, just some general background information

849
01:02:21,225 --> 01:02:25,135
on any changes or discussions that he had with the applicant

850
01:02:25,705 --> 01:02:29,605
since our last meeting. Thank you, mr. Casda. Okay,

851
01:02:32,795 --> 01:02:36,255
so basically, uh, coming out of the last discussion,

852
01:02:36,825 --> 01:02:40,495
there were some additional, uh, conditions that you wanted inserted

853
01:02:41,055 --> 01:02:45,015
into the ordinance. And so the, the one that remained was the unity of title

854
01:02:45,175 --> 01:02:49,055
agreement, which needs to be approved and recorded. Uh, the three additional

855
01:02:50,105 --> 01:02:53,565
conditions included a reduction of the accessory

856
01:02:54,175 --> 01:02:58,015
dwelling unit size to be no larger than 768 square feet.

857
01:02:59,355 --> 01:03:02,975
the third one, removal of the interior fence between the existing home

858
01:03:03,395 --> 01:03:07,335
and the, uh, proposed a du and then the fourth one was the

859
01:03:07,495 --> 01:03:11,175
installation of an additional parking space next to the existing driveway.

860
01:03:12,555 --> 01:03:16,205
so I did get a call, uh, from the applicant

861
01:03:16,985 --> 01:03:20,915
after the meeting. He understood all the conditions in the discussion. Um, he

862
01:03:21,135 --> 01:03:24,975
did have a question and was wondering whether he really needed to install,

863
01:03:25,955 --> 01:03:29,915
uh, an additional parking space. Uh, for the following reason is that the

864
01:03:30,375 --> 01:03:34,295
existing home has a two car garage. Um, well first, lemme preface this

865
01:03:34,535 --> 01:03:38,415
with, uh, our code requires one additional parking space for an accessory

866
01:03:38,815 --> 01:03:42,815
dwelling unit. So what they have on the property,

867
01:03:43,235 --> 01:03:47,205
uh, today is a two car garage. They have a very long, wide

868
01:03:47,815 --> 01:03:51,775
driveway that can accommodate four cars on the driveway. So that's a total

869
01:03:51,935 --> 01:03:55,875
of six cars. Um, you know, if we

870
01:03:55,995 --> 01:03:59,875
go by the code, uh, they meet the, not only

871
01:04:00,175 --> 01:04:03,755
the current requirement, but the proposed, uh, a du requirements

872
01:04:04,375 --> 01:04:07,785
as well. So he just wanted, um, some clarification,

873
01:04:08,765 --> 01:04:12,235
the reconsideration of that condition. A photo,

874
01:04:14,245 --> 01:04:17,385
uh, we do have a photo. Maribel, I put a photo,

875
01:04:20,345 --> 01:04:22,445
pdf in there, photos.

876
01:04:24,765 --> 01:04:28,455
hopefully this will show you what. So yeah, there's a good shot of the

877
01:04:28,855 --> 01:04:32,695
existing. So you'll notice that there isn't a sidewalk on this

878
01:04:32,895 --> 01:04:36,815
side of the street. So it does allow for those cars to basically go out to

879
01:04:36,975 --> 01:04:40,855
the curb without blocking the sidewalk. That would be on the other side.

880
01:04:41,865 --> 01:04:45,705
so that allows for, again, two cars in the garage and four cars on

881
01:04:46,145 --> 01:04:49,955
the driveway, which is a total of six cars. Now, whether

882
01:04:50,445 --> 01:04:54,285
or not they use the car, the garage for storage or for cars, ,

883
01:04:57,915 --> 01:05:01,325
any comments? Yes,

884
01:05:01,965 --> 01:05:05,245
uh, uh, michael, in, in, in your, uh,

885
01:05:06,335 --> 01:05:09,835
role as, uh, mediator of conflict often

886
01:05:11,075 --> 01:05:14,825
where you, where you bring parties together, uh, type thing

887
01:05:15,165 --> 01:05:18,885
to discuss things, uh, were you able to reach

888
01:05:19,265 --> 01:05:22,965
out to the numerous residents who presented that opposed

889
01:05:23,635 --> 01:05:26,885
this, this, uh, uh, approval

890
01:05:28,695 --> 01:05:32,565
after the last meeting? Yes. Um, no, I did not and I did not hear from

891
01:05:32,725 --> 01:05:36,565
them. Uh, normally I think I would have heard from someone

892
01:05:37,105 --> 01:05:40,925
if they strongly disagreed or wanted a status update, but I didn't

893
01:05:41,125 --> 01:05:45,125
hear from the neighbors, um, the immediate neighbors or any of the neighbors that came to the planning and

894
01:05:45,325 --> 01:05:45,525
zoning commission.

895
01:05:50,455 --> 01:05:54,415
any other questions or anything call for motion to approve? Uh,

896
01:05:54,695 --> 01:05:58,555
no. Okay. Sorry. So let's just make sure we

897
01:05:58,715 --> 01:06:02,695
know that we're voting on. Is this ordinance amended to remove

898
01:06:03,295 --> 01:06:07,095
the requirement for a second driveway? So

899
01:06:07,375 --> 01:06:11,215
the ordinance in your packets includes the additional space for a driveway as

900
01:06:11,475 --> 01:06:15,395
a requirement. If you're going to reconsider that and remove that

901
01:06:15,595 --> 01:06:19,515
condition, you need to state the, the motion. State that in

902
01:06:19,675 --> 01:06:23,095
your motion. Can I comment first? Yes.

903
01:06:23,855 --> 01:06:27,675
um, I will say I drove by the house a few times and they had moved

904
01:06:28,255 --> 01:06:31,735
the trailer from the street into the

905
01:06:32,315 --> 01:06:36,275
driveway. So they did follow up on me kind of trying to be a better neighbor, which I was

906
01:06:36,395 --> 01:06:40,315
appreciative to see. They had also moved the car that was parked in the backyard out of

907
01:06:40,435 --> 01:06:43,915
that. That being said, those two things make me feel like they,

908
01:06:45,215 --> 01:06:49,075
the parking could continue to be an issue because they were using the street and the backyard for parking.

909
01:06:50,215 --> 01:06:54,155
so it did, does give me pause to make the amendment, but I'm, I also

910
01:06:54,595 --> 01:06:58,575
recognize that they made an effort and I wanted to make sure that you guys all knew that they had at

911
01:06:58,795 --> 01:07:01,995
least were trying to follow through in being a better neighbor like we'd asked them to be.

912
01:07:03,635 --> 01:07:07,575
so are you making a motion with I did not make a motion there. Okay. Just asking. Right? Sure. I

913
01:07:07,695 --> 01:07:11,635
was just waiting to see what, so you need either a motion to approve as is

914
01:07:11,855 --> 01:07:12,745
or a motion to amend.

915
01:07:16,415 --> 01:07:20,015
do you want me to, so I'm voting no, so either

916
01:07:20,455 --> 01:07:23,725
way. So I, I dunno why everyone's looking at me. I, sorry.

917
01:07:24,615 --> 01:07:28,355
you do what you have to say. Yeah, that's, that's what I'm just, I'm sticking with my note from

918
01:07:28,625 --> 01:07:32,335
last time for all the same reasons and yeah, we need to, we gotta get a motion before

919
01:07:32,755 --> 01:07:36,555
we go to vote. Yeah, I don't know. I was just looking at make a motion that we move to approve

920
01:07:36,895 --> 01:07:39,005
as written. How's that?

921
01:07:42,055 --> 01:07:44,795
is there a second? I'll second.

922
01:07:46,335 --> 01:07:50,335
do we have a second? I approach

923
01:07:50,415 --> 01:07:53,155
him with a second. Yes. Yes.

924
01:07:54,635 --> 01:07:58,415
so we're, the idea is as it's written,

925
01:07:59,205 --> 01:08:03,195
because we are trying to make sure

926
01:08:03,315 --> 01:08:06,745
that there is enough parking. Correct. I mean, okay.

927
01:08:07,615 --> 01:08:10,535
and I'm, I personally am open to

928
01:08:11,795 --> 01:08:15,765
considering taking that they made some efforts. I feel like they're trying to be

929
01:08:15,995 --> 01:08:19,785
good stewards and make that better. They haven't lived there. I feel like that's

930
01:08:20,205 --> 01:08:23,985
all there. I also feel like you can park on the street, like street

931
01:08:24,405 --> 01:08:28,405
parking is allowed by anybody who visits, who lives there. You could have 10 cars

932
01:08:28,605 --> 01:08:32,565
parked out in the street. You just have to move them. I mean, there's certain rules around how long you can be

933
01:08:32,685 --> 01:08:36,205
parked in one location, correct? Yes. You have to move it every

934
01:08:37,545 --> 01:08:40,245
yes. So I mean, there's rules about that.

935
01:08:41,605 --> 01:08:45,565
I was impressed by the fact that they had followed through within like two days. They had taken care of all the

936
01:08:45,645 --> 01:08:49,565
rest of the stuff and they didn't need to do that right away. They didn't even need to do it yet. But I appreciate the fact that

937
01:08:49,685 --> 01:08:53,385
they had. So, um, yeah, I'm,

938
01:08:53,955 --> 01:08:57,715
well, I'm open just stands, right? I know. We're, they have availability of eight cars

939
01:08:58,065 --> 01:09:01,885
to be parked in their driveway and garage and, but the motion

940
01:09:02,665 --> 01:09:06,565
is stated that there will be the eight plus one additional six, I'm sorry,

941
01:09:06,705 --> 01:09:10,395
six. That's the a I'm sorry. The, uh, uh, six plus

942
01:09:10,785 --> 01:09:14,705
an additional for seven plus whatever they can park on the street

943
01:09:15,275 --> 01:09:18,825
also. So we wanna keep the motion as, as is.

944
01:09:22,195 --> 01:09:25,685
okay. Call for the vote. I got more questions. Oh, sorry, sorry. Call for the discussion.

945
01:09:26,385 --> 01:09:30,325
is that, is that, uh, just a widening of the driveway? We're not, we're not installing

946
01:09:30,725 --> 01:09:34,455
another curb cut. Correct. So it's just a, so basically, uh, a flare

947
01:09:34,985 --> 01:09:38,285
closer to the garage. Okay. Alright. I like that.

948
01:09:39,305 --> 01:09:43,245
thank you. Any other discussion? I just

949
01:09:43,405 --> 01:09:47,285
have to ask, does bearfield better about that option? I'm still frustrated

950
01:09:47,565 --> 01:09:51,445
with it. I'm still still on the fence. That's why I wish ashton would really sway one way or

951
01:09:51,605 --> 01:09:54,005
the other. But she's saying mom about it, so I'm just like,

952
01:09:56,645 --> 01:10:00,525
I mean, my discussion is just the same that we had before. I, I don't, I,

953
01:10:01,365 --> 01:10:05,355
I don't know. I just, I feel like, I feel like in

954
01:10:05,575 --> 01:10:09,255
my heart at the end of the day, and this is just my opinion, that these are going to be two

955
01:10:09,615 --> 01:10:13,535
separate rentals. I feel like it's going to be a rental house and the a du is also going to be a rental.

956
01:10:13,975 --> 01:10:17,475
I don't know that I necessarily have wholeheartedly

957
01:10:18,375 --> 01:10:22,375
believe that that's not gonna be two rental houses. I don't think I just,

958
01:10:22,535 --> 01:10:26,295
I don't think that's fair. I wouldn't want it in my neighborhood. We don't have to allow it. It's city

959
01:10:26,615 --> 01:10:30,595
council. I understand planning and zoning. They have to allow it 'cause it's based on planning and zoning. But

960
01:10:31,125 --> 01:10:35,095
when it comes to city council, I vote with my heart. So I'm just on the fence

961
01:10:35,255 --> 01:10:39,135
that I just don't think, like I said, the other a du you know, they had

962
01:10:39,295 --> 01:10:43,295
people that came and said, yes, this is gonna be for my mother-in-law. I want this here. And then this

963
01:10:43,455 --> 01:10:47,295
house is the complete opposite. And they had six, seven people say, I don't want this here.

964
01:10:47,515 --> 01:10:51,365
and I just, if it was me and it was my neighborhood, I wouldn't want

965
01:10:51,655 --> 01:10:55,415
someone to have rentals on top of their house being a rental. I mean, that's just,

966
01:10:55,995 --> 01:10:59,935
we already have, we all sat at the comprehensive plan. 54% of our town or whatever

967
01:11:00,015 --> 01:11:04,015
is rentals. That's an astronomical amount. And now we're just gonna allow even

968
01:11:04,215 --> 01:11:08,135
more. I just not gonna do it man. . Appreciate that. Thank you.

969
01:11:08,405 --> 01:11:11,985
yeah, later on. I like that what you really feel. Yeah. . Sorry.

970
01:11:13,025 --> 01:11:16,515
no, I was, I was, I was hoping for that. I wanted to hear that's, thank you. Yeah.

971
01:11:18,985 --> 01:11:22,925
yes. Thank you mr. Mayor. Uh, basically I,

972
01:11:23,445 --> 01:11:27,285
I must fall on the side of ashton and

973
01:11:27,485 --> 01:11:30,025
that this project, uh,

974
01:11:31,495 --> 01:11:35,195
we're faced with defining event, essentially what

975
01:11:35,805 --> 01:11:39,435
a mother-in-law house is. And basically

976
01:11:40,485 --> 01:11:44,485
I think what we've we're providing is a

977
01:11:44,605 --> 01:11:46,285
means for a multi-family

978
01:11:48,845 --> 01:11:52,575
unit type thing, which is, is just

979
01:11:52,855 --> 01:11:56,485
significantly different than the neighborhood expects,

980
01:11:57,915 --> 01:12:01,415
uh, from this. Now basically if there were

981
01:12:02,175 --> 01:12:05,965
a house for sale in the neighborhood that were reasonable sure

982
01:12:06,405 --> 01:12:10,195
that they may, uh, the family may jump on the chance to

983
01:12:10,415 --> 01:12:13,415
have the family close together. And I, I can appreciate that.

984
01:12:14,555 --> 01:12:18,435
um, but the context is beyond the

985
01:12:18,655 --> 01:12:22,355
scope, I think of the mother-in-law, uh, dwelling that, uh,

986
01:12:22,665 --> 01:12:26,255
we're generally all in favor of. And I, I, the family

987
01:12:26,875 --> 01:12:30,795
is wonderful, but I, I just can't do that for

988
01:12:31,015 --> 01:12:35,015
the neighborhood. I understand. I make one more comment if that's

989
01:12:35,255 --> 01:12:39,175
okay. Yes, I do. This is an unusual situation 'cause they are both rentals

990
01:12:39,655 --> 01:12:43,535
at this point. Um, I really felt like the family's very heartfelt in their

991
01:12:43,675 --> 01:12:47,035
desire to make the changes and improvements to the house and move in.

992
01:12:47,955 --> 01:12:51,855
um, he mentioned that the brother, his brother was his brother or brother-in-law. I'm not sure

993
01:12:51,975 --> 01:12:55,975
which one was gonna be the one that was living in the accessory dwelling building. And I also do

994
01:12:56,135 --> 01:13:00,135
believe that property owners do have the right to, if they have the space and the ability to make some

995
01:13:00,295 --> 01:13:04,095
changes or modifications, I think that that is great. I would ideally

996
01:13:04,485 --> 01:13:08,355
like it to be families and I think we're going to be seeing more and more of that. As,

997
01:13:08,675 --> 01:13:12,595
you know, we kind of grow and things get tightened with the economy and

998
01:13:12,815 --> 01:13:16,415
things. I think we are gonna see families consolidating down and living together more

999
01:13:17,235 --> 01:13:21,175
and we need to be open to that. But what if then they sell that house and somebody comes in? We have

1000
01:13:21,255 --> 01:13:25,215
no control over how that's used going forward and I recognize that. So I

1001
01:13:25,335 --> 01:13:28,805
think we have to be very careful to that reason. I think that keeping

1002
01:13:29,355 --> 01:13:32,775
it to the same as the driveway being put out, build out that

1003
01:13:33,515 --> 01:13:37,295
at least is us making some concessions to making sure that there's enough parking for people.

1004
01:13:37,935 --> 01:13:41,755
I think that's important to do in this case because this one is a little challenging to

1005
01:13:42,175 --> 01:13:46,035
consider. That's all. Mayor. Okay, I off of the vote, I just want to throw this out

1006
01:13:46,255 --> 01:13:50,095
there for just your consideration and, and uh, just so that you're aware,

1007
01:13:51,075 --> 01:13:54,455
we are slowly coming into a multi-national or multi-family,

1008
01:13:55,755 --> 01:13:59,475
uh, age. Mm-hmm . Uh, I have, uh,

1009
01:13:59,855 --> 01:14:03,715
I added, my wife and I added a mother-in-law suite to our house a number of years ago.

1010
01:14:04,515 --> 01:14:08,375
uh, it is adjacent to the room, to the house, to the dwelling,

1011
01:14:09,355 --> 01:14:13,225
but it was not part of, we actually built it on two,

1012
01:14:13,945 --> 01:14:16,465
it has a separate, um, entrance if desire

1013
01:14:18,145 --> 01:14:20,905
and if anything were to happen to my mother-in-law, heaven forbid

1014
01:14:23,125 --> 01:14:27,115
we could rent that room out. That would

1015
01:14:27,235 --> 01:14:31,195
be our free will to do as it was. So I just wanted to know that

1016
01:14:31,625 --> 01:14:35,315
there's certain things that you cannot control and just be aware

1017
01:14:35,635 --> 01:14:39,515
that are, are, we're changing as

1018
01:14:39,735 --> 01:14:43,455
we evolve around. Especially as we have, uh, a lot of our family members

1019
01:14:44,135 --> 01:14:48,115
aging and moving back in with, uh, the younger children and vice versa. So

1020
01:14:48,335 --> 01:14:52,205
there's certain things that we can't change, but there's some things also

1021
01:14:52,495 --> 01:14:54,895
that is illegal. And with that, let's call for the vote.

1022
01:14:57,605 --> 01:15:01,375
council member put aye. Mayor fitzpatrick. Aye. Council

1023
01:15:01,855 --> 01:15:05,425
member fullman. No. Council member wolffe aye.

1024
01:15:05,875 --> 01:15:09,875
council member rubal with regrets? No, the motion carried.

1025
01:15:12,345 --> 01:15:16,135
carried forward. Okay. Um, next item is,

1026
01:15:16,375 --> 01:15:19,175
uh, item b. Your view pay

1027
01:15:20,895 --> 01:15:24,435
number five. Yes. Uh, mayor, as you know with the community

1028
01:15:24,915 --> 01:15:28,875
development block grant, in order to get reimbursement, we have to have approval

1029
01:15:29,495 --> 01:15:33,375
on each pay application by city council. So this one is for the hill do

1030
01:15:33,595 --> 01:15:37,335
project. It's in the amount of $207,950 and

1031
01:15:37,765 --> 01:15:41,755
43 cents. And we are requesting council, approve it so we can get

1032
01:15:41,875 --> 01:15:45,645
our reimbursement from the county. Move to approve discussion.

1033
01:15:47,025 --> 01:15:49,625
call of the vote. Council member goldman

1034
01:15:51,055 --> 01:15:54,965
aye. Council member goldsby aye. Mayor pro temp

1035
01:15:55,125 --> 01:15:58,815
fitzpatrick. Aye. Council member put aye. Council member rubal

1036
01:15:59,545 --> 01:16:03,515
aye. Motion carrie, move forward. Uh, ladies and gentlemen, item

1037
01:16:03,905 --> 01:16:07,605
10 is an executive session. Uh, city council universal city

1038
01:16:07,995 --> 01:16:11,335
will meet to, uh, under texas government

1039
01:16:12,005 --> 01:16:15,325
code 5 5 1 0 7 1 consultation with attorneys,

1040
01:16:16,105 --> 01:16:19,385
uh, in relationship to case number 2 0 2 4

1041
01:16:21,285 --> 01:16:24,815
cv 0 6 5 11 camino lavoy,

1042
01:16:25,685 --> 01:16:29,685
llc, uh, texas liability company. And there's a bunch of stuff in there too.

1043
01:16:30,135 --> 01:16:34,025
we're gonna receive information here that we may or may

1044
01:16:34,305 --> 01:16:37,655
not take action on. And at 8 46

1045
01:16:40,815 --> 01:16:44,805
we're gonna send to 7 7 6. My apology,

1046
01:16:44,965 --> 01:16:48,765
seven six. You were panicking me. Goodness gracious.

1047
01:16:49,135 --> 01:16:49,135
7 46, 8 11,

1048
01:16:55,815 --> 01:16:59,415
reconvene the meeting. It was stressful. I need a break. Yes, you too.

1049
01:17:00,675 --> 01:17:04,015
and we're out of executive council

1050
01:17:04,805 --> 01:17:08,695
session. And with that being said, there's no

1051
01:17:08,815 --> 01:17:12,445
action being taken by the council. And with that being said,

1052
01:17:12,965 --> 01:17:16,145
meeting is adjourned. Awesome. Thank.