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All right, all right good evening ladies and gentlemen.

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I'd like to call to order the regular meeting of the University of City Council for Monday, August 3rd, 2026.

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For those who are watching and those in the chamber, my name's Stan Fleming and on behalf of

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the university place city council, we'd love to welcome all of you.

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With that said, let's call, if the clerk would please call the roll.

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Thank you Mayor, council member Figueroa.

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Council Member Boykin.

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I'm here.

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Council member Cunningham.

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Here.

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Councilmember Wood.

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Present.

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Councilwoman Grassi.

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Here, Mayor Pro Temaklowski.

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I am here, mayor Fleming.

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Here?

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Mayor, you have a quorum.

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Thank you, ma'am.

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Let's move to item number three.

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Pledge of Allegiance, I'd like to call on council member Wood

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if he would lead us, please.

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Please join me if you are able, and rise.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States

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of America.

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And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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Okay, thank you.

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Would that like to move to item number four, approval of the agenda?

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I'd like the call for a motion to approve the Agenda.

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Make a Motion to amend the Agenda to remove item D from the consent agenda.

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Second.

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Thank you.

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I'm probably moved and seconded to approve the agenda as amended.

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Removing item number D from the Agenda, and if I may also ask the Mayor for a time if

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we can pull out item Number F. Is that okay?

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I don't see a Maury.

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Thank You.

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All right.

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I thought that was going to happen later on.

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Oh, we may do it again too.

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You can do that later.

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You want to just do right now and get it.

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We can do that too and just keep moving.

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Okay, so I'll remake my motion to remove item D and 7F from the consent agenda.

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Awesome.

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Second.

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It's been properly moved and seconded to approve the consented agenda, removing item

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D, and item F. Are there any objections to the amended amendment?

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We're not removing items.

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We are just pulling it.

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Okay, hearing none, the agenda's approved, as amended.

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We have on item number five, a presentation tonight on the 28th legislative update by

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Representative Mari Levitt.

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I do not see her here in the chamber at the moment, so with the council's permission,

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we will put that aside and when she gets here, we'll circle back to that one.

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So we will keep the agenda moving tonight. I will move to item number six under public comments

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So now we're in this public comment portion of the agent of order. Yes

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Mayor I believe that when you pull an item or items off the kazen agenda

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They have to be recognized as to why they were pulled

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I don't think so in this instance, because they were pulled at the time of the approval

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of agenda, you don t necessarily need to do that. Now, had, and I think with respect

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to item F, I believe there had been a desire to actually reagendize that under the Council

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of Consideration portion. That s correct. However, that wasn t part of

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the motion before we get too far filled. I t think that s probably important. We jumped

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the gun on the Motion on Pulling Item F. Okay.

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I have a point of clarification for me, so on, the point item 7f, we wanted to pull for the, for a consideration.

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I believe it's for consideration, I'm looking at Mr. Eklund because that's his item.

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He's shaking his head, yes, but I seem to Mr Eklind.

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Yes.

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So.

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So that will actually fall after we get to consent agenda.

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Okay. All right. So item number six, this is our public comment time. It's an opportunity

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for members of the public to provide comments to the City Council about any items that

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are not appearing on the agenda or the consent agenda.

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So with that, we would open it up for public comments. If those who are on, the, via Zoom

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Want no one online mayor. Thank you

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Ben clerk, so are is there anyone in the public here in The Chamber tonight, and I do not have a sign-up list up here

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So I am presuming we do NOT have anyone

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None mayor, okay, thank you very much

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Okay, So we will close public comment and we'll now move to item number seven a the consent agenda

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I will call for a motion to approve the consent agenda.

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I'll move to prove the consented agenda as amended in addition moving the pulled item

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7f into our consideration.

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Number 7 f.

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Thank you.

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For lack of clarification on the correct numbering sequence.

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We're still good.

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Is there a second?

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Okay, it's been properly moved and seconded to approve the consent agenda.

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Again, removing item number seven and holding that separately.

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Are there any objections?

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Hearing none, then, the motion passes as amended.

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Let's move now to items seven, to consider we're going to have a staff report from Mr.

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Ecklander, Public Works Manager.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor and City Council. I'm Jack Echlin, Director of Public Works.

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Could you speak in the mic? We can't hear you up here.

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I am not sure. Do I need to kind of almost eat it.

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Do you hear me now or is it? No.

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Oh, that's worse.

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Okay.

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So thank you, Mr. Mayor and City Council.

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I'm Jack Heklin, Director of Public Works.

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Tonight, I am bringing to you for your consideration,

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the authorization of purchasing a stormwater device

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from Contact Engineering Solutions for a hydrodynamic

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separator.

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It's in the amount of $203,925.10.

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And then this item the reason I had requested this be pulled is at the time

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This is the item that was associated with the

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down there at the day island with a storm drainage to address the stormwater management.

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To clean the provides some additional treatment for

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the Stormwater Basin that had addressed some of the concerns raised by the Day Island Yacht Club.

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At the time of our, the consent decree that was issued.

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There was only, I understand there's one vendor that provided this device.

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And currently is still the only one vendor that we are aware of that has provided all the information that does that can provide it.

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We have a 18 month time frame to get this installed in accordance with that consent decree.

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And so that's why we have it in front of you as a sole source authorization and a waiver for competitive bidding.

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Now, the only reason I've asked to have this pulled is because

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earlier today, we found out from another vendor that there may be another option.

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And now this option, normally they would probably be waived just because, well,

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we couldn't timeframe, and we probably can't meet it.

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But this, apparently this other vendor can provide a device.

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Potentially both at a more affordable price and at quicker time frame.

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So I just want to put this big caveat on there.

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That there is a potential to, that there may be something that wouldn't necessarily be a sole source now that this information has come.

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They have not provided us all the information or confirmed that they can meet all of the criteria that's in the consent decree.

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And so in order to meet our timing, we still recommend passing this item to authorize us to make the purchase.

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However, I want to give the, make sure everyone has the understanding that.

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If we find out in the next several days that this other company can actually meet the

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requirements then

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We will likely be coming back in a next council meeting to have a different

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recommendation

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However, if we don't authorize this one at this time and this is the only one that truly can do it

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We need the approval now or else we would wouldn't meet that timeframe if that makes sense because this

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This more established vendor is one that deals in a concrete vault that takes a much longer,

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about a 12 to 16 week lead time.

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The potential new one could take it a four to six lead times, so that's where we have room to act if we find out we really could go with this other alternative.

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It's just a bit unusual, we fully recognize that.

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And we definitely assure you that we wouldn't make the.

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We wouldn't make the actual order until where we confirm that this other

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vendor is not an option

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But just timing-wise and the fact that we aren't going to be having another meeting

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Intel for a while

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We still recommend the the motion in the council bill

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Anything else Jack that's it. I've got just three quick questions, and then we're gonna open up for council

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On your number one is how is this thing installed? Who's going to install it?

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And what does it actually do, if you could mention it?

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So it's called a hydrodynamic separator,

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and what it does is it will take it routes water,

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storm water through a large like a 10 to 12 foot diameter

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structure, swirls it around in a velocity

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such that it, actually, separates out the heavier

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sediments and to help reduce the possibility of any kind

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and downstream.

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The, we're purchasing it ourselves for the material.

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The actual installation would be gone out,

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we'd go out to bid and have a contractor install it.

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It will require, when we do do install, it'll be located

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within 27th Street down in the vicinity of Vista Drive.

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It'll likely require a short duration of a road closure

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large operation, and then in that case we will have a detour set up for when that occurs.

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And then we anticipate the toll duration to be a couple weeks or so.

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But we try to sequence things in a way that minimizes that disruption.

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And then lastly, this item wasn't in your budget for 2026.

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Where do you get drawing the funding from for it?

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This was, we actually, in the previous carry forward,

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we did add the budget item.

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So it's in there currently from the carry-forward budget.

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Okay.

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All right, are there questions from Council?

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Council Member Gossley.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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Thank You, Ms. Stracklin.

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apparatus for lack of a better word?

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Yeah, it should be if properly maintained, which

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fortunately we have one of the better maintenance

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crews for stormwater stuff around it.

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At least I might be a little biased on that,

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but I think we do an amazing job.

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So when probably maintained it probably

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has a, I would assume, about a 30-year life.

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It could be longer, but the manufacturers give you like a 30 year kind of anticipated

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life frame.

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Overall, it's anticipated to have a pretty long and maintain properly it could far exceed that.

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Okay, and we haven't worked with this other vendor option before, is that correct?

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We have not.

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Do they have any references of other, just tell them.

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They do, they've done a fair amount of work in California primarily.

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But they are, the main criteria that we need to meet is to be on an approved,

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it's called the GULD approved pretreatment list by the Department of Ecology.

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And that's a fairly intensive application.

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You have to demonstrate a significant amount of performance and that you're a reliable company.

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And so this vendor did get R on that list.

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Although we don't have any specific experience with them.

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The.

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Proper bowl in their background.

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Thank you very much.

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That's all I have.

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Okay, thank you.

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Councilman.

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Yup.

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So once we determine if we're going to approve tonight, then you still have to determine costs

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from the second option that you got today, right?

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Well right now, and the reason I'm so recommending because as of the actual information we have,

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right, because we do not have all the information.

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Information provided contact is the sole source that's available and so in until we get that additional information from this other vendor

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or if they do or don't, we, you know, this is a sole-source procurement and we would move forward with this pricing.

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If, however, in relatively short term, which they've indicated, they can do it in about 72 hours,

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it gives us the information to demonstrate that they would also meet the criteria that's set forth

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in the consent decree. They would be then the more cost effective and quicker option to get installed.

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So it would no longer be a sole source. It would back to kind of competitive bidding,

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and so we'd come back with a follow-up proposal.

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So with your turnaround time and your timeline and based on the fact that we're not meeting for another month, I guess, after tonight,

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how will we be notified if you decide to go the other route?

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Because of course you're going to be held 30 days waiting to let us know that to determine.

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I mean, because obviously you want to the best timing and the price, right?

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If the other vendor comes in, because they've given us a price that's probably

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in the ballpark of about $50,000 less.

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And at a time, a delivery time of less than half.

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So, that is why we have this kind of unique situation that I don't like to be in this situation.

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I'd much rather have all the information.

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feel irresponsible once we found out about this morning.

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I didn't want to just disregard it, so.

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And then we don't wanna hold you up with the work with not letting us know, but we would of course wanna know what you ended up going with.

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But we definitely will give advance notice to council as soon as we know.

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And we'll follow up in the next council meeting.

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Thanks, Jack.

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It's all I have here.

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Thank you.

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Mayor Pro Temucloski.

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Thank You, Mayor.

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So, Vista in 27th Street, is that up to why we're just going to be installed?

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No, I'm on vacation.

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There is going be an end.

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So generally, it's in the vicinity of Vista and 27, at the end of the, where the City

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of University Place storm system ends.

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So we are capturing all the water that's coming out of this city of university place

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storm systems.

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Oh, that goes into Tacoma.

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And then it'll go into the Tacoma system.

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Got it.

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All right.

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And just as a curiosity, did you go out to bid for this, and

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you only had that one, or did he just offer it to that, one?

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Because how did this other company realize that there was something going on and contacted you?

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So, it was, we did our investigation based on the

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the last performances of things and what's on the actual list from ecology because that's a pretty limited list of participants.

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So it's not open to, it is only the people on this list, and it has a very specific device,

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and a large flow rate.

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And so most of the other devices that are almost, at least what we understood.

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prior to this morning, all of the other devices couldn't handle that kind of flow rate that

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comes off of 27th Street to be able to meet the pre-treatment, required pre treatment

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design flow.

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And then while we were just reviewing the list from the college site, it was then we

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Discovered before and so then we contact them and then that's how we discovered that they possibly could meet that

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requirement

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Okay, the timeline for them sounds too good be true, but I understand your dilemma now. Yeah, thank you

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Thank you, councilmember boy come. Thank You mayor

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Jack, I have a question really about the process as I'm hearing more and

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many more into the additional comments that you're making.

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So let me first start with the expectation about not having a competitive bid,

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which makes sense. It's not unusual.

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The University of the University place typically has competitive bids for the expectation of how we typically engage.

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When we do move in the direction of a sole source, if you will, we want to be absolutely sure about why it is that we've chosen those.

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And this is just the affirming for our public that the process that

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we have and the processes we follow have a lot of integrity in it and it also has a

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identified vendor for the right reason so so let's lean into the

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right direction when you moved into

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the expectation of this particular soul source vendor can you affirm

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the things that actually elevate why it was that they were chosen

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and even though I appreciate your conundrum what might be most important

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to think about since again there was a deliberate effort to

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I think it was identified in this case for reasons that we should now have the best position for City University place closes.

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So if you collaborate on those reasons, I'd appreciate it.

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Yeah, for sure.

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And a lot of this is a unique situation because of that consent

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degree and the legalities associated with the dispute between the city and

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the Yacht Club.

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And that prescribed both parties agreed to remedy the situation.

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So, and then the unique characteristics.

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of this incredibly large basin.

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So it's a large amount of flow that comes.

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And so it really narrowed down.

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You had the performance criteria on one hand

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that we had to meet.

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And then also the amount flow coming off of,

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this is probably over half the city area

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ends up coming to this location.

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And so the combination of those two, it just led, this was the only a parent

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company that could provide that device that was prescribed.

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Thanks so much, no more questions, Mayor.

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Okay, thank you, Council Member Bryken.

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Any other questions?

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Council.

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All right, I have the last one, then, and Jack,

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this separator creates a lot of salt, how do you get it and where do put it?

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So it will have to be, although at a much larger scale,

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but we would be able to still clean it with our.

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our vector system and then the any sediment that comes off would we would put it in our

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vector bay to separate the water which would were in the process of getting any water decant

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material to be able to go be treated and go through the sewer system. And then any sediments

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would go in with our solid waste similar to our other in catch basins and other and street sweeping

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And then lastly, you had indicated that once the stormwater runoff has been separated from the silt it dumps into the Tacoma system.

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Do we have an agreement with Tacoma to do that?

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I'm not opposed to it. It's kind of awesome, but it's so in general, it is because it

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was something we inherited ultimately from when the county was got built and actually

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It all historically, when it was all built, it originally was the county.

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And so when Tacoma incorporated their section, because that was a later incorporation,

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the West Ridge, or now it's called the Boulder's area, they essentially inherited the section the County built.

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And then that had the already the prescriptive right to move through in the way the stormwater regulations go as long as soon as you change.

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You know, municipal boundaries, the responsibility of conveying and managing the flow turns into that system.

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So, yes and no, I guess it's the answer to your question, but-

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But it is clearly the, it

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is more of a nature of state law and-

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where water is intended, it has to go.

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And when Tacoma assumed that party from the county,

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they ultimately got the responsibility to maintain the section that they assumed.

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You know, I would just like to be sure that we have some clarity there so that

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we don't have to engage mad again to go and negotiate on behalf of the city.

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And from your, you're going to

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be engaging me anyway because there's other pieces of this that will be coming back to council.

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Oh, wonderful.

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But you've already agreed to the big picture.

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Yeah. And Tacoma is also, they are party to this consent decree.

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So they're in agreement with the course of action.

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So from the standpoint of that,

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with the consent decree and then we are doing some additional agreements and

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time-related adjustments. That will further address their concerns but

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ultimately their party this in an in agreement as well.

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Okay, you know, we're so we'll be voting on shortly here on this hydrodynamic separator

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But you also said you have this other deal going on on the side

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So if the council approves this tonight, do we have to come back then and undo this to approve for the other?

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Or is there some kind of an amendment we would most likely have a super seeing action and as Jack indicated given the timeline

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It very well may be that we're making some phone calls in the next week or so asking for a special

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Stand up meeting with one item on the agenda depending on

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The timeline between now and the first meeting in September

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Hopefully not, but we're covering our basis.

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All right, so if that's the case and that is the scenario, do we really need to even

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take an action on this?

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We're trying to avoid that scenario.

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Yes.

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So if we can.

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No, we got an item on the table right now.

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No.

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No but I'm saying we are trying avoid calling the special meeting if possible.

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If the company can't provide it, then we're already set.

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We can place our order and move forward without any additional action.

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If we do have to do an additional option, we have do additional actions anyway.

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And so we are trying to.

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to reduce that possibility, if that makes sense.

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Well, it does, but, you know, thinking the council's going to be taking a recess here

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for the summer, and that's why we're not having the next meeting.

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I'm wondering if it would make more sense,

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and I'll look to our city attorney here and make

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more since to have one motion here that gives Jack the latitude.

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If you can get the better deal with the other item just to move forward with it

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By giving them approval tonight to do that

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Here's the problem. It's a time problem is what it is

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It the classic bird in the hand versus what's your timeline?

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We have a known known which jacket talked about which means the requirement for the waiver of competitive bidding

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Based on everything we know depending on what happens in

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The next bit that might change but when I was briefed on this earlier this afternoon

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I reached the conclusion we kind of

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to tell council that there may be this other piece out here that we might have to make another trip back.

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to counsel, but we don't have enough information on that.

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Second piece, what we do know is that this first piece on information that we have

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and verify does meet that requirement.

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Okay. So, Matt, could the council just authorize the appropriation or the expenditure

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of the 200 up to $203,925.10 for a hydro dynamic separator?

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So if Jack were to be able to cut a deal with the other company and get it for less

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He's still home free we could just say he could do that just don't be surprised if you see a quick touch or some

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Paper on an upcoming council agenda just to make sure that that's copacetic particularly from the auditor perspective

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Yeah, it might even it may be a receiving file or just might appear on the consent. Yeah. I think that would make make more sense

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So Matt would you have us suggested?

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Change to the motion. Yeah, we could just we can just move to

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Authorize you to expand up to this amount for the purchase of a hydrodynamics summer separator

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So if you were to get it for less great the city will love you for it

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But if he can't you've got the amount of money you need to buy this one

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And then you can do a receiving file when you get the other item receive and file or something on the consent

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Okay, yeah, and we would just rephrase the action. I'll frame it in the way so somebody can say so moved

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There you know authorized the city manager or a designee

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For a purchase of a hydro dynamic separator in an amount not to exceed

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205 thousand dollars with competitive bidding requirement waived

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Okay. We'll make that motion

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Thank you. It's been moved a second. Thank You. Its been properly moved and seconded

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to authorize the city manager or designee to expand up to $205,000 with the competitive bidding requirement waived for the purchase of a hydrodynamics separator.

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Is there any further discussion, comments, questions?

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Seeing that there's none, then, I gotta make sure we do this right here.

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We'll call for a vote.

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Madam Clerk, would you just take.

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Thank you mayor council member for girl. Yeah

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Council member Boykin

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Yes

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Councilmember Cunningham. Yes councilmember wood. Hi

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Council Member grassy. I

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Mayor pro tem not plus key. yes mayor Fleming. Aye. Mayor vote results have a nice motion carries

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Thank You motion does carry. Thank. You. Jack for that report

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You know because times of the essence we certainly didn't want to tie your hands on that

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Let's move down to council considerations item number eight. This is the art and culture advisory commission. It's an ordinance amendment

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We'll call on our city attorney mr. Matt Kaser for the report

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Thank You mister mayor. I'm at kaser city Attorney again before you for

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action tonight is a proposed ordinance following council's discussion at your last city council

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meeting. As you may recall at the last City Council meeting of July 20th, you held a study

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session on a propose change initiated or requested by Mayor Pro Tem McCluskey as well as council

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member Boykin to alter the composition of your arts and culture advisory commissioner

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Your the original proposal just quoting from

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for a second that council had, would be in relevant part

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to codify a change to the structure of that commission

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to recruit subject matter expertise

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for interested individuals with interest

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in growing that Commission in the city of the university

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place who may not reside in this city.

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Those individuals would known in

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the arts community and have established

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credible influence in arts and culture.

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They would take up to one, but no more

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than two seats on the commission,

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therefore creating majority of seats

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will still be UP residents on

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the Commission's structure.

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One of these seats would assigned to a culturalist

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and the other to a successful nonprofit with marketing fundraising and major event

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productions. So that's largely from your original proposal. What you have before

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you tonight is a, and with my windows here.

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A draft ordinance that follows on that discussion, which would amend one section of the University Place Municipal Code.

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It's a sectional code that you amended earlier this year when you originally created the Arts and Culture Advisory Commission.

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As you may recall, you had extended discussion on what the composition of AC, AC would look like with nine members to those seats would be set aside for you.

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The draft ordinances you have tonight, acknowledges that the nine seats currently assigned up to two seats may be

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as having that expertise drawing largely or near verbatim from that proposal.

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You'll note, as you look at the draft language, it is silent on residents, or actually it speaks to those individuals holding seats.

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Not saying other provisions do not need to be residents of the city of university, please.

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You will note by its terms, that it's expressly silent, on whether those individual hold voting or non-voting seats,

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that was an issue that you had discussed, has currently drafted, if adopted, those

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individuals would be voting members.

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One other thing or two other things I think that's important to call out and then I'll yield the floor for questions.

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The first is there are some discussion at the study session on what is a culturalist.

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You will note that this draft proposal does not attempt to define that phrase.

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A feature in the legislation because amongst the seven of you the question then becomes you want to try and define it at the time of legislation passage or at

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the. Time of confirmation of an individual for.

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appointment to the commission.

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As you may recall, under your current process,

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you have an interview committee comprised

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of three council members who interview candidates

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who make a non-binding recommendation to The Mayor.

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The mayor then advances those names for nomination

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and then a majority of council is required

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to make that confirmation.

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So, certainly at the time of confirmation, individual could say that this person has the

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requisite degree of cultural itsness, I made that word up, but we're going to roll

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with it for today, or not, without having to attempt to define it in legislation.

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The other thing I want to call out, which is not something you had discussed,

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however, from the sense of trying to administer this language, is that if these two seats,

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In making a nomination, the intent would be that the mayor in making the nomination expressly calls out that this person is the

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culturalist or the individual who holds the marketing, fundraising, or production of the nonprofit piece.

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So that way, should those members cease to become members of a commission, we can still follow and identify if this

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person, what spot do they hold, as opposed to somebody else who might remain on the commission to say, well, they have the

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Without trying to play guess guess the bouncing ball member has it were

466
00:33:29,016 --> 00:33:35,455
With that I will pause and you otherwise yield the floor because I suspect members of the council may have some questions

467
00:33:35,455 --> 00:33:39,096
So we'll go from there awesome. Thank you, mr. Hager

468
00:33:39,336 --> 00:33:42,576
Mayor pro temni is there anything you wish to ask yeah

469
00:33:44,016 --> 00:33:46,016
Yes

470
00:33:46,912 --> 00:34:08,911
It's not really a clarification, but just so the council is assured that it is only these seats assigned to non-resident if and when there is no expertise that is coming forward for the selection committee to review and there

471
00:34:08,911 --> 00:34:13,911
is option for a nonresident to apply.

472
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:23,280
The other component is on our initial application for any commission there is a slop for business.

473
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:29,960
So to include businesses within a university place.

474
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,840
Even though the resident may not live within university places.

475
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:40,840
But they do provide the expertise of either a non-profit or the culturalist.

476
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:49,000
Culturally skinny, historian, librarian, there are schools actually for

477
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:54,440
culturalists and then so you can get a degree in being a culturalist.

478
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,039
And it typically is found in the Human Resource Department under organizational

479
00:34:58,039 --> 00:35:01,920
leadership and human resource development.

480
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:07,960
And its on the more strategic level of a corporate executive

481
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,920
Talking about vision, mission, strategic goals,

482
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:19,239
how all that aligns with their human resources and

483
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:27,840
to include all the things that we are currently now talking about as being part of the culture.

484
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:33,039
It's not only corporate culture, it is a culture of who their customer is.

485
00:35:33,248 --> 00:35:38,927
So in our case, it's our citizens, and they keep changing over time.

486
00:35:38,927 --> 00:35:42,807
New inflexes come in and others move out.

487
00:35:42,807 --> 00:35:49,047
So it keeps kind of a thumb on that sort of movement.

488
00:35:49,047 --> 00:35:54,208
And in that there'll be a design of the cultural plan for

489
00:35:54,208 --> 00:35:55,967
one to five years, that's all.

490
00:35:57,199 --> 00:36:02,719
For a annual review and update as that moves forward and the culture

491
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:09,119
Culturalists will be really a strategic in designing that unless we want to

492
00:36:10,039 --> 00:36:12,039
Pay for an outside consultant

493
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,599
If we wanted to design a cultural plan

494
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,559
so

495
00:36:18,559 --> 00:36:20,559
Mr. Kaser

496
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:27,639
also defined culturalist, because culturalists is kind of in the ether a little bit, right?

497
00:36:27,639 --> 00:36:33,800
What is it, what does it do, and so he did an excellent job with his addendum.

498
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:39,519
And I would highly recommend that in, the change to our.

499
00:36:39,679 --> 00:36:45,519
our commission structure that this be placed in it, so that we don't lose it over time.

500
00:36:45,519 --> 00:36:50,760
And that when the selection committee or the interview committee comes together, they can read it.

501
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,559
And then when they discover those expertise,

502
00:36:54,559 --> 00:37:02,400
they'll know it and they will be able to make their determination whether that person is a good fit for the commission or not.

503
00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:07,559
At the bottom line it is the choice of our mayor.

504
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:13,360
be of a selection commission, so even if it is an outside resident that we feel

505
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:19,119
does not have the heart and passion for university place, they don't have to be

506
00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:22,880
selected. They're not, you know, it's forced to

507
00:37:28,096 --> 00:37:35,295
With the help of council member Kenny Nam who did a great job in designing two questions for the selection commission.

508
00:37:35,295 --> 00:37:45,856
So that it tells into allowing the applicant to express some of the things that we're looking for

509
00:37:45,856 --> 00:37:50,096
in a cultural and in an nonprofit administrator.

510
00:37:50,096 --> 00:37:56,896
So in that selection process, it's a very low level informational discovery.

511
00:37:57,231 --> 00:38:09,231
to define who we want and who would be a good fit moving forward for the cultural direction on the arts and culture commission.

512
00:38:09,231 --> 00:38:14,231
Because, as I'll state it again, culture leads to arts.

513
00:38:14,231 --> 00:38:16,231
Arts tells our story.

514
00:38:16,231 --> 00:38:20,231
It tells the story of our past, of a present.

515
00:38:20,231 --> 00:38:22,231
The things we do really well.

516
00:38:22,231 --> 00:38:26,231
The thing we did not so well, the things that we need to improve.

517
00:38:26,512 --> 00:38:31,391
And it is has a futuristic positioning on it as well.

518
00:38:31,391 --> 00:38:39,472
So if you go into any vibrant arts community, culture is at the heart of it.

519
00:38:39,472 --> 00:38:40,831
Thank you.

520
00:38:40,831 --> 00:38:42,431
Thank You Mayor Percham.

521
00:38:42,431 --> 00:38:44,871
Council Member Boykin, now is the co-sponsor.

522
00:38:44,871 --> 00:38:46,992
Do you have any comments you'd like to add?

523
00:38:46,992 --> 00:38:47,831
Thank-you Mayor.

524
00:38:47,831 --> 00:38:53,672
Just to the first I want to make sure I say that I thought it was extremely important.

525
00:38:54,927 --> 00:39:11,927
expand the expectation of how to be providing opportunities for selection of expertise for this council committee, if you will, and in that I thought it was extremely important to take from how

526
00:39:21,007 --> 00:39:33,648
A firm that there had been an opportunity for Mayor Pro Tem to attend a professional conference in which this was really centered as part of what good engagement might look like.

527
00:39:33,648 --> 00:39:38,327
To give us the best chance of being successful, knowing this is our first.

528
00:39:40,016 --> 00:39:42,416
opportunity in this space.

529
00:39:42,416 --> 00:39:47,255
And so those recommendations aren't casual, and then the expectation of ensuring that we

530
00:39:47,255 --> 00:39:53,175
had the latitude to just be more successful, made sense to me, to ensure that that had

531
00:39:53,175 --> 00:39:58,496
been more expansive in our opportunity to choose talent and expertise.

532
00:39:58,496 --> 00:40:00,735
So that is the first thing I wanted to say.

533
00:40:00,735 --> 00:40:02,815
The second thing that I want to see is that.

534
00:40:03,168 --> 00:40:09,608
As we look at the way of how we move any commission choice forward.

535
00:40:09,608 --> 00:40:14,208
We really do lean into the expectation of the process and

536
00:40:14,208 --> 00:40:19,208
sure, assuredly that the mayor does have final say.

537
00:40:19,208 --> 00:40:24,447
But I'm hopeful that we don't take that process casually.

538
00:40:24,447 --> 00:40:28,688
That the opportunity for us to find our best sales and to move the best.

539
00:40:29,711 --> 00:40:37,851
Opportunity forward for an overall successful commission is what we're taking very seriously is our own individual charge

540
00:40:37,851 --> 00:40:40,791
So that it makes it easy for the mayor to say yes

541
00:40:40,791 --> 00:40:47,192
And it also makes is easy four you're engaged in your specific way of leaning into the process that much more valuable

542
00:40:49,032 --> 00:40:52,231
Thank you so much councilmember Futeroa

543
00:40:55,983 --> 00:41:11,704
I believe we should have some added verbiage that states the first recruitment for this

544
00:41:18,784 --> 00:41:23,543
At that time, if there's no, either both positions,

545
00:41:23,543 --> 00:41:26,824
there is just one, neither one if nothing is found.

546
00:41:26,824 --> 00:41:30,503
Then we can do a second recruitment outside of UP.

547
00:41:30,503 --> 00:41:35,463
Inside of the UP, again, and outside a UP to include outside UP

548
00:41:35,463 --> 00:41:37,943
to try to capture someone with that expertise.

549
00:41:37,943 --> 00:41:42,264
But I think that I don't want to pin those that have that

550
00:41:42,264 --> 00:41:43,983
expertise in UP

551
00:41:43,983 --> 00:41:47,864
to compete against outside up non-residents.

552
00:41:49,552 --> 00:41:54,271
Okay, thank you very much and then excuse me but and thank

553
00:41:54,271 --> 00:41:59,552
you. And the reason I think it needs to be verbalized and stated in here because it's

554
00:41:59,552 --> 00:42:03,911
something that can be forgotten as time goes by where you could change council members

555
00:42:03,911 --> 00:42:08,791
and we don't know what the intent is and and all of a sudden it could be a recruitment

556
00:42:08,791 --> 00:42:15,072
and it is silent here as to the first recruitment being a Chesapeake resident so that's why I

557
00:42:16,608 --> 00:42:20,807
Thank you. Mayor. Thank-thank you, Councillor McKendenham.

558
00:42:20,807 --> 00:42:28,927
Yeah, so somewhat what Council Member Figaro is saying, I just think that we all had decided

559
00:42:28,927 --> 00:42:35,168
that our first pass was going to be, you know, in district to start off. And being part of

560
00:42:35,168 --> 00:42:44,128
the selection committee, we already have about a dozen applicants of which for our use just

561
00:42:46,128 --> 00:42:51,568
I just caution us to really look inside because again, we have no data to support the fact that we don't know that

562
00:42:51,568 --> 00:42:54,568
we can't find what we're looking for in our city.

563
00:42:54,568 --> 00:43:00,568
And because we had such a significant amount of applicants, I mean, it's two days worth of interviews for the committee.

564
00:43:00,568 --> 00:43:04,128
I think that tailoring questions to be specific because

565
00:43:04,128 --> 00:43:09,487
we'd have to give them an opportunity to determine if they have that level of expertise before we seek outside of our City.

566
00:43:09,487 --> 00:43:11,487
So I'd just think we need to put some.

567
00:43:11,856 --> 00:43:17,735
Dates, some level of a timeline to determine the trajectory of where this goes after.

568
00:43:17,735 --> 00:43:23,456
Because even if the committee finds that we have maybe half of those, we still have to seek outside.

569
00:43:23,456 --> 00:43:26,976
I still think that should give it a real call, let's try before we determine.

570
00:43:27,215 --> 00:43:30,255
that we go outside of our city to look for this person.

571
00:43:30,255 --> 00:43:35,856
And I think that tailoring questions to be specific because whether they're in the district or out,

572
00:43:35,856 --> 00:43:38,576
we still need to determine their level of experience to

573
00:43:38,576 --> 00:43:40,655
determine if they'd be a fit for those said two seats.

574
00:43:40,655 --> 00:43:44,576
So I just think we need put some dates and some level

575
00:43:44,576 --> 00:43:50,335
of clarification around that because we already got a significant amount of applicants for

576
00:43:50,335 --> 00:43:52,695
this new commission so we don't know our own potential just yet.

577
00:43:53,168 --> 00:43:56,788
So happy here. Okay, great. Thank you very much council member would

578
00:43:57,367 --> 00:43:59,047
Thank You, sir

579
00:43:59,047 --> 00:44:03,887
first I have a quick question and I think I know the answer, but I don't want to assume I no the

580
00:44:03,887 --> 00:44:06,168
answer if

581
00:44:06,168 --> 00:44:11,967
The nobody with the requisite expertise applies to this particular commission whether inside the city or without

582
00:44:13,088 --> 00:44:16,688
Do we have to hold the seat vacant or can we put somebody in there?

583
00:44:16,688 --> 00:44:19,967
So we had a voting member who is as close as possible to the intent

584
00:44:21,423 --> 00:44:26,704
You know my for whoever can answer. I'll take one step and then I let Mayor Percam do that

585
00:44:26,704 --> 00:44:29,423
But I know having sat on that commit committee before

586
00:44:30,112 --> 00:44:37,431
We used to follow the intent the spirit of what the council had in filling those seats

587
00:44:37,711 --> 00:44:44,911
And when we couldn't fill them then we did go and ask other candidates who may have applied even to other

588
00:44:45,192 --> 00:44:47,632
Commissions if they shared in that interest

589
00:44:48,271 --> 00:44:53,311
And if I did and they could could articulate that then, we would fill those seeds

590
00:44:53,391 --> 00:44:56,231
So I think the Spirit in the Intent is there

591
00:44:56,896 --> 00:45:08,016
I think I also believe in the committee members and their use of their good judgment when they're looking at filling those seats.

592
00:45:08,016 --> 00:45:16,536
So I don't really, I personally don t have any hesitation of trusting other judgment in terms of how they would go about doing that.

593
00:45:16,536 --> 00:45:19,335
Okay, thank you. I just want to make sure we're not putting ourselves in a bind.

594
00:45:19,335 --> 00:45:19,856
Sure.

595
00:45:19,856 --> 00:45:21,536
I say we have to have one or the other.

596
00:45:21,536 --> 00:45:22,056
Yeah.

597
00:45:22,056 --> 00:45:24,536
And then the second one, and please humor me on this one.

598
00:45:25,135 --> 00:45:28,695
Ordinance 798, which actually established this.

599
00:45:28,695 --> 00:45:34,215
Could you review the paragraph that said exactly what the purpose of the commission is just

600
00:45:34,215 --> 00:45:35,215
for a second?

601
00:45:35,215 --> 00:45:42,416
If you could give me a few minutes, let me pull it up because I'd be a couple minutes here.

602
00:45:42,416 --> 00:45:45,496
And while you're doing that, lemme just explain my thought process so you guys can understand

603
00:45:45,496 --> 00:45:51,815
why I'm asking this, because we're asking here for the culturalist and a marketing fund

604
00:45:53,423 --> 00:45:59,184
with that kind of expertise, which on the face of it both sound like very good ideas.

605
00:45:59,184 --> 00:46:05,704
But I want to make sure we're not stepping too far beyond the bonds of what the original ordinance was asking for with this commission.

606
00:46:05,704 --> 00:46:10,824
And since I wrote it, but it's been many, well over a year ago, almost to that.

607
00:46:10,824 --> 00:46:16,744
I would like to be sure that we are not going too fast beyond bonds or bounds of that particular ordinance.

608
00:46:16,744 --> 00:46:17,704
So thank you.

609
00:46:17,704 --> 00:46:19,744
Okay, thank your mayor for town.

610
00:46:19,744 --> 00:46:20,244
Okay.

611
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:25,139
Actually, I actually had an answer for Council Member Wood on it.

612
00:46:25,139 --> 00:46:31,800
What I've done is I have co-opted your screen with the original language, and there's one

613
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,000
other provision I want to share with you here in a second, but since the question related

614
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:40,639
to the origin ordinance, there was a laundry list of functions associated with

615
00:46:41,487 --> 00:46:45,967
Commission without limitation it would include and I'm just going to quickly go through this

616
00:46:46,568 --> 00:46:57,288
Encourage public programs to encourage the development of public awareness and the fine arts provide recommendations to the council in conjunction with cultural and artists endeavors provide council input on art displays

617
00:46:57,288 --> 00:47:01,927
In include in public spaces advised on the acquisition and replacement of arts in the new construction

618
00:47:01,927 --> 00:47:07,327
It reviewed the suitability of artworks intended as gift and encourage donations and grants and advise the city

619
00:47:10,864 --> 00:47:14,423
we definitely council member with that you are speaking of specifically with respect

620
00:47:14,423 --> 00:47:18,543
to the ordinance that council passed earlier this year. The one other thing I also want

621
00:47:18,543 --> 00:47:22,943
to make sure that is on council's radar and making sure you do not get too far afield

622
00:47:25,711 --> 00:47:29,391
Because it is home in your overall commission code

623
00:47:30,311 --> 00:47:34,992
Under your intent associated with not just this commission, but your other four commissions

624
00:47:35,672 --> 00:47:41,472
It has been codified that the commissions are exclusively advisory to the council and that they do not take independent action

625
00:47:41,992 --> 00:47:43,992
representing the city

626
00:47:43,992 --> 00:47:46,672
With other agencies and do you not direct or duplicate the work?

627
00:47:46,672 --> 00:47:52,672
So just I want to make sure that that base is also touched as part of at least some of the assumptions associated

628
00:47:52,672 --> 00:47:53,672
with your question

629
00:47:53,672 --> 00:47:55,672
Good assumption. Thank you

630
00:47:55,536 --> 00:48:07,536
Okay, great. Thank you. You know, and for the rest of the council, if you're just looking to review the ordinance itself, it's on the following page of your booklets that you have here tonight.

631
00:48:07,536 --> 00:48:10,536
Mayor Pro Tem, you had some comments?

632
00:48:10,536 --> 00:48:19,536
Yes, I think we're getting a little bit off base in regards to the residency requirement.

633
00:48:25,039 --> 00:48:35,119
The essential piece that I came back with and many meetings with the Americans for the Arts as well as the National

634
00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:42,559
League of Cities for The Arts and their health and wellness committees really indicate the need for a

635
00:48:53,231 --> 00:49:01,231
the art culture within the city of the university place that if you remember when I sent everybody

636
00:49:02,351 --> 00:49:16,992
the initial information from the Americans for Art it had a widget of 33 different components.

637
00:49:10,192 --> 00:49:16,032
And this is what arts and culture impacts, and it impacts everything.

638
00:49:16,032 --> 00:49:19,072
So for example, like public safety, you click on the public

639
00:49:19,072 --> 00:49:23,072
safety widget and you get a whole white paper from Bloomingdale and on that,

640
00:49:23,072 --> 00:49:29,152
there's like another 15 or so hyperlinks into it as to how the arts

641
00:49:29,152 --> 00:49:32,992
and cultures directly impacts public

642
00:49:32,992 --> 00:49:35,711
safety and its perception.

643
00:49:35,791 --> 00:49:41,632
And it ties into our health and wellness and those things.

644
00:49:41,632 --> 00:49:47,391
And if we can get on the right step with this

645
00:49:47,391 --> 00:49:52,271
culturalist in this infancy of the Arts and Culture Commission,

646
00:49:52,271 --> 00:49:56,911
we will be leap years ahead than any of

647
00:49:56,911 --> 00:50:01,472
the other art commission that I have spoken with that

648
00:50:03,711 --> 00:50:05,632
being part of it.

649
00:50:05,632 --> 00:50:10,592
It's a significant role and it's an important key role

650
00:50:10,592 --> 00:50:12,871
that we need to have that expertise.

651
00:50:12,871 --> 00:50:15,992
Now we can design it, how we design

652
00:50:15,992 --> 00:50:18,552
it we don't have to save a seat.

653
00:50:18,552 --> 00:50:20,871
You know, I don t really encourage or recommend

654
00:50:20,871 --> 00:50:24,231
that if you have a lot of interested people

655
00:50:24,231 --> 00:50:27,952
in the get go to do it but we may want

656
00:50:27,952 --> 00:50:30,072
to consider hiring a consultant to

657
00:50:32,992 --> 00:50:45,992
I'm going to be circling back for a cultural plan for the next one to five years because it's also in alignment with the arts and culture philosophy and

658
00:50:45,992 --> 00:50:53,992
how the other arts & culture collectives develop within a city.

659
00:50:53,992 --> 00:50:56,992
Port Townsend, Santa Fe, Albuquerque.

660
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:11,239
The other piece to all of this is that we have a vibrant arts community here in University

661
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,599
Place that's hidden.

662
00:51:13,599 --> 00:51:19,559
This arts and cultural commission will hopefully pull them out of the woodworks and will just

663
00:51:19,559 --> 00:51:27,559
say what an incredible, amazing, talented people that have from poetry or some writing,

664
00:51:30,864 --> 00:51:34,744
The art that we don't think is art, that they're doing out there.

665
00:51:36,143 --> 00:51:41,384
And also in 2008, up for art did a

666
00:51:41,384 --> 00:51:47,184
investigative report of arts within our community.

667
00:51:47,184 --> 00:51:51,503
And within that report, guess what?

668
00:51:51,503 --> 00:51:53,583
Is the need to identify culture?

669
00:51:53,871 --> 00:51:55,192
because culture leads the way.

670
00:51:55,192 --> 00:51:58,952
That's how significant and important that it is.

671
00:51:58,952 --> 00:52:02,791
If we don't have that expertise in the very beginning,

672
00:52:02,791 --> 00:52:04,711
yeah, we may have a little Achilles heel,

673
00:52:04,711 --> 00:52:06,112
not to say we're going to fail.

674
00:52:06,112 --> 00:52:08,711
We're not going sail because we are going

675
00:52:08,711 --> 00:52:12,711
to realize and we'll figure out how to get that expertize.

676
00:52:12,711 --> 00:52:17,391
And, but I would be really remiss

677
00:52:17,391 --> 00:52:21,351
if I did not bring this forward and being so heartfelt.

678
00:52:21,391 --> 00:52:26,391
And all the information and all of the data and the research and

679
00:52:26,391 --> 00:52:31,751
the science about having somebody who has a cultural expertise.

680
00:52:31,751 --> 00:52:36,391
Port Townsend has the cultural expertist through their librarian.

681
00:52:36,391 --> 00:52:43,711
Santa Fe has cultural experts through the local artists, but also through there historians.

682
00:52:43,711 --> 00:52:49,751
They have a very centuries old culture.

683
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,400
And they want to preserve it, but they also want

684
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,159
to move it forward so we'll have a modern vibe

685
00:52:55,159 --> 00:52:58,239
to keep the tourism going into Santa Fe.

686
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,920
And that ties into their transportation system.

687
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,360
It's culturally driven as well.

688
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,079
With that, I'll rest.

689
00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:07,000
Thank you.

690
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,639
Okay, thank you, Mayor Pertemto.

691
00:53:08,639 --> 00:53:10,480
I would almost accept that actually,

692
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:11,320
I will.

693
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:15,119
It has a soliloquy to this amendment to the ordinance.

694
00:53:15,552 --> 00:53:22,032
Well, you actually have no motion pending I'm still on the hook for council questions. I like wise. Thank you

695
00:53:22,032 --> 00:53:24,032
I said almost almost

696
00:53:24,391 --> 00:53:26,311
So councilmember Boykin

697
00:53:26,311 --> 00:53:32,431
Thank You mayor. Want to just be sure that we're not unintentionally conflating two ideas

698
00:53:33,032 --> 00:53:36,431
That are beginning to compete because they really don't they?

699
00:53:36,431 --> 00:53:38,431
Really shouldn't

700
00:53:37,664 --> 00:53:46,384
Number one about the residency expectation for any of our commissions including this one to be launched.

701
00:53:46,384 --> 00:53:51,503
There's always an expectation to look here for residents and citizens to contribute.

702
00:53:51,503 --> 00:53:55,063
Because we're always talking about City of University place and

703
00:53:55,063 --> 00:53:59,344
it being a for us by us product and engagement and infrastructure.

704
00:53:59,344 --> 00:54:03,184
So I don't want to suggest that anything that it is that's.

705
00:54:03,135 --> 00:54:05,135
I'm intending on moving forward.

706
00:54:05,135 --> 00:54:13,536
The trade off is, that's not considered our residents and our citizens that actually would want to serve, as well as have an expertise to service.

707
00:54:13,536 --> 00:54:22,936
Again, I will say that the goal was to ensure that there had been an expansive opportunity, number one, to insure that we had the best chance of being successful.

708
00:54:23,536 --> 00:54:29,936
For the people who have leaned into the process and recognized what it takes to launch this in its infancy.

709
00:54:29,936 --> 00:54:35,456
There are some very specific things that have been prescribed as a result of being successful.

710
00:54:35,456 --> 00:54:39,536
In that regard, the makeup of the composition has come to the forefront.

711
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:45,119
That's the only thing that is important in terms of the comments that I'm making tonight.

712
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:50,559
I want to be sure that that opportunity and that expectation has a chance to move forward.

713
00:54:50,559 --> 00:54:54,559
If for the reason we don't find that expertise inside the City of University Place.

714
00:54:54,559 --> 00:55:01,840
Because what is most important is this particular brand new commission serving the needs for

715
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,960
the residents and the city of university place.

716
00:55:05,039 --> 00:55:08,199
And we've got a really good opportunity to set that up well.

717
00:55:08,199 --> 00:55:17,639
And I want to be sure that we don't have any unintended consequences by removing the way forward in the best chance of being successful in that effort.

718
00:55:17,639 --> 00:55:24,599
Yeah, so if I understand your question, and what you have at least in terms of between the ordinance and your current code.

719
00:55:25,679 --> 00:55:30,900
There is some room for what you could perceive as ambiguity.

720
00:55:30,900 --> 00:55:37,420
And then the question is, has Council actually takes up action on this ordinance to what extent you wish to tighten it, as it were?

721
00:55:37,420 --> 00:55:42,940
So hear me through on these and mindful as many of the other questions in terms of when do you want to do that,

722
00:55:42,940 --> 00:55:47,260
especially some of discussions associated with the first round of interviews, et cetera.

723
00:55:47,260 --> 00:55:53,860
So the language that you have in front of you tonight sets forth, if adopted, sets fourth, who can serve?

724
00:55:54,096 --> 00:55:57,036
on the Arts and Culture Advisory Commission.

725
00:55:57,036 --> 00:56:00,036
So, and it does not have the language in there

726
00:56:00,036 --> 00:56:02,635
that says if there's nobody else that's eligible

727
00:56:02,635 --> 00:56:04,335
or qualified to serve, et cetera.

728
00:56:04,335 --> 00:56:06,275
So if that something that is important to council

729
00:56:06,275 --> 00:56:09,376
and amendment in due course should be considered for that.

730
00:56:09,615 --> 00:56:11,615
As you go through that process,

731
00:56:11,615 --> 00:56:13,376
one of the things I do want to make sure

732
00:56:13,376 --> 00:56:14,496
and highlight for council,

733
00:56:14,496 --> 00:56:17,615
I will do a quick screen share for you.

734
00:56:17,615 --> 00:56:19,056
And this was touched on earlier.

735
00:56:19,056 --> 00:56:21,255
This is pulling up a portion of your code

736
00:56:21,255 --> 00:56:23,496
on your appointment process for the commission.

737
00:56:23,496 --> 00:56:25,215
You're familiar with most of

738
00:56:25,215 --> 00:56:26,456
the language associated,

739
00:56:26,456 --> 00:56:27,775
or most the process anyway,

740
00:56:27,775 --> 00:56:28,615
even if you're not familiar

741
00:56:28,615 --> 00:56:30,655
with the words associated with that,

742
00:56:30,655 --> 00:56:32,775
because that's your familiar committee process

743
00:56:32,775 --> 00:56:33,615
that we've talked on

744
00:56:33,615 --> 00:56:35,496
and that you've utilized a number of times.

745
00:56:35,496 --> 00:56:36,735
The key thing I'm trying to highlight

746
00:56:38,576 --> 00:56:45,815
of section 1.3508 of your municipal code is that you have expressed an intent that in making

747
00:56:45,815 --> 00:56:51,576
appointments that the council should, note the should make the CTO for the greatest number

748
00:56:51,576 --> 00:56:56,295
of residents the opportunity to serve. Now, if you notice this should not a shout.

749
00:56:56,295 --> 00:56:59,695
I'm sorry to interrupt you. Is there a way you can expand that, the Council's

750
00:57:18,063 --> 00:57:20,063
I'm playing with my windows here.

751
00:57:20,063 --> 00:57:22,063
You do that. You were on a great roll.

752
00:57:22,063 --> 00:57:25,063
I was on the roll! Sorry to interrupt you.

753
00:57:25,063 --> 00:57:29,063
Here's the language that we're focused on in terms of council intent.

754
00:57:29,063 --> 00:57:33,063
I am not even touching it. Can you blow it up to 50?

755
00:57:33,063 --> 00:57:36,063
I don't know. 72.

756
00:57:36,063 --> 00:57:39,063
There we go.

757
00:57:39,063 --> 00:57:41,063
Can y'all read that?

758
00:57:41,063 --> 00:57:44,063
It's fine. My apologies.

759
00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:48,119
Yeah.

760
00:57:48,119 --> 00:57:49,119
All right.

761
00:57:49,119 --> 00:57:50,119
Are we good?

762
00:57:50,119 --> 00:57:51,119
Fine.

763
00:57:51,119 --> 00:57:52,119
Okay.

764
00:57:52,119 --> 00:57:54,760
The point I want to make, and this is in response to your question, Councilmember Boykin, is

765
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:55,760
that...

766
00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:00,280
How definitive do you wish to be in the course of making those appointments?

767
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:04,679
Now, council has previously expressed that there is a very strong intent on making

768
00:58:04,679 --> 00:58:05,679
those appointment.

769
00:58:05,679 --> 00:58:07,960
Now that same intent does not equate to a shall.

770
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:08,960
It's a may.

771
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,840
And so that's something that throughout the court of this current commission code,

772
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,000
which dates back to 2017, you have generally adhered to.

773
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,639
And when there are exceptions called out,

774
00:58:16,639 --> 00:58:19,679
you've done so expressly and specifically.

775
00:58:19,679 --> 00:58:22,960
We've heard about the business exception being the one in particular.

776
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,119
This is another potential exception.

777
00:58:25,264 --> 00:58:32,503
If that is a strong desire on the part of council, the language that you have in front of you in the ordinance tonight will need some additional language.

778
00:58:32,503 --> 00:58:36,423
Now, having said that, some of the concerns that had been identified, and

779
00:58:36,423 --> 00:58:41,344
I'm just like, in a sense, we're talking potential amendments before even the main motion has been made.

780
00:58:41,344 --> 00:58:46,103
How do you ensure that the first round you had adequate coverage for UP residents?

781
00:58:46,103 --> 00:58:47,503
There's a couple potential solutions.

782
00:58:47,503 --> 00:58:50,503
You could change the text of a language, that's in favor of it.

783
00:58:53,568 --> 00:58:55,568
a living document as we go forth.

784
00:58:55,568 --> 00:59:00,208
The second is you could amend the effective date of the ordinance.

785
00:59:00,208 --> 00:59:03,327
This ordinance has with most of your other ordinances

786
00:59:03,327 --> 00:59:05,728
takes effect five days after publication,

787
00:59:05,728 --> 00:59:08,047
which would be publication would take place sometime this week,

788
00:59:08,047 --> 00:59:10,288
so the effect of date would sometime next week.

789
00:59:10,288 --> 00:59:14,608
You could say that this ordinance will be effective insert date here,

790
00:59:14,608 --> 00:59:18,688
recognizing that gives you ample time to go through initial round of interviews

791
00:59:18,688 --> 00:59:19,807
whenever that might be.

792
00:59:22,543 --> 00:59:26,384
of 2027 or some other date, just throwing a date out there.

793
00:59:26,384 --> 00:59:28,903
The third is you could take a wait and see approach.

794
00:59:28,903 --> 00:59:31,943
Would we move to table the discussion

795
00:59:31,943 --> 00:59:34,224
and then come back and potentially revisit it?

796
00:59:34,224 --> 00:59:35,344
All three of those options,

797
00:59:35,344 --> 00:59:36,384
and I'm sure there's a few more

798
00:59:36,384 --> 00:59:37,583
that I am probably overlooking

799
00:59:37,583 --> 00:59:39,903
or certainly at your disposal.

800
00:59:39,903 --> 00:59:43,224
But those at least alleviate some of the concerns I've heard.

801
00:59:43,224 --> 00:59:44,903
I don't know if I fully answered your question

802
00:59:44,903 --> 00:59:45,903
for your council member Waken,

803
00:59:45,903 --> 00:59:47,903
but recognizing that there is some ambiguity

804
00:59:47,903 --> 00:59:50,903
and part of that is a discussion amongst the seven of you.

805
00:59:50,784 --> 00:59:56,623
How tight do we need this to be, for where we're trying to go with this particular commission?

806
00:59:56,623 --> 00:59:57,744
Mayor May I?

807
00:59:57,744 --> 00:59:59,384
Thank you. I come from Bergen.

808
00:59:59,384 --> 01:00:00,704
Mayor may I, I'm coming from.

809
01:00:00,704 --> 01:00:01,384
Thank You.

810
01:00:01,384 --> 01:00:05,384
I just wanted to say that you're spot on in terms of what my dilemma was.

811
01:00:05,384 --> 01:00:11,623
Because I do believe that what we will do is entrust council members to make the best decision.

812
01:00:11,623 --> 01:00:15,784
And I don't know anyone here who would want to lead less than first.

813
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,760
taking a look at the expertise that we have here among us.

814
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,599
And then the intent is to ensure that

815
01:00:21,599 --> 01:00:23,039
we've got the best people that

816
01:00:23,039 --> 01:00:24,400
we can put in the position so that

817
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,800
we got a very successful opportunity

818
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,599
for our arts and cultural commission.

819
01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:31,920
And I don't see that changing.

820
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:36,400
So if there is something that I believe you said,

821
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,599
I like the second scenario where we

822
01:00:39,599 --> 01:00:42,480
extend the date in which it actually becomes effective.

823
01:00:43,072 --> 01:00:45,791
And let the process unfold as it will.

824
01:00:45,791 --> 01:00:49,351
I don't believe we necessarily need to put a shell in there.

825
01:00:49,351 --> 01:00:51,512
But if we do, we'll do.

826
01:00:51,512 --> 01:00:57,192
And then the last thing I would simply say is that the expectation of making an exception here for

827
01:00:57,192 --> 01:00:59,032
me for what I've heard.

828
01:00:59,295 --> 01:01:14,896
And what President has already shown us, it would make sense, but it's only because I want to ensure that what we do have is the best chance of getting people in the place to have the most successful opportunity to be, as I've alluded to more than once, being successful here.

829
01:01:16,096 --> 01:01:16,615
Thank you, Mayor.

830
01:01:16,936 --> 01:01:19,295
Okay, thank you for breaking down from the cutting down.

831
01:01:19,632 --> 01:01:24,351
Yeah, Matt, you answered my question and I'm just for inserting it.

832
01:01:24,351 --> 01:01:32,952
I don't want to block the opportunities for us to, I want it to get too far down the line where we don t have an opportunity to bring it back and then get the quality of commission that we desire.

833
01:01:32,952 --> 01:01:34,552
So that's not the case.

834
01:01:34,552 --> 01:01:38,391
I just want make sure we're prioritizing our residents and that it is ample opportunity.

835
01:01:38,391 --> 01:01:45,152
I mean, overall, it's hard to fill any of our commissions often because there's ebbs and flows in that.

836
01:01:45,152 --> 01:01:47,351
And I think that this is going to be no different.

837
01:01:49,072 --> 01:01:56,431
different people, so I just think that after the committee goes through these dozen applicants then what?

838
01:01:56,431 --> 01:02:01,112
We just need to know what that looks like so that we have a fair shake at prioritizing our residents.

839
01:02:01,112 --> 01:02:06,112
So I think inserting a date would just be logical for us to give ourselves ample opportunity and

840
01:02:06,112 --> 01:02:11,592
runway to determine did we really vet our city residents first and give them a real fair

841
01:02:11,592 --> 01:02:15,552
shake before we jump in and open it up to others.

842
01:02:15,552 --> 01:02:17,391
And that's just what I'm saying.

843
01:02:19,536 --> 01:02:25,835
Okay. Well, thank you very much. Council member Figueroa. Thank you, Mayor.

844
01:02:25,835 --> 01:02:33,315
It's just a simple wordsmithing. It appears to me that the emphasis has been

845
01:02:33,315 --> 01:02:44,655
under over cultural to determine the arts. So why not name it cultural and arts

846
01:02:46,543 --> 01:02:50,344
Since that's really the the first place position

847
01:02:51,103 --> 01:02:57,103
I'm just asking why why not since that seems to be the emphasis for the arts

848
01:02:59,824 --> 01:03:01,824
Question raised

849
01:03:02,143 --> 01:03:04,143
Yes

850
01:03:04,903 --> 01:03:09,623
Arts and culture on the same level basically, you know is a initially an arts

851
01:03:10,664 --> 01:03:13,423
Commission and there was an addition of culture

852
01:03:13,936 --> 01:03:16,695
that was changed with the discussion going on.

853
01:03:16,695 --> 01:03:21,416
It doesn't mean that culture is less

854
01:03:21,416 --> 01:03:23,615
because it's in a second position on it.

855
01:03:25,775 --> 01:03:29,295
It's like parks and recreation.

856
01:03:29,295 --> 01:03:32,016
Is recreation less than parks?

857
01:03:33,056 --> 01:03:34,775
I don't think so.

858
01:03:34,775 --> 01:03:37,976
But do you need parks to do recreation maybe?

859
01:03:37,976 --> 01:03:38,815
Or not?

860
01:03:38,815 --> 01:03:40,936
You could use the schools.

861
01:03:42,735 --> 01:03:44,735
For me, that's

862
01:03:46,576 --> 01:03:50,576
You know that doesn't matter it's in there they're going to discuss it

863
01:03:52,456 --> 01:03:54,456
Hopefully

864
01:03:55,456 --> 01:03:59,615
Figure out the cultural plan where we're doing as a city with it

865
01:04:02,976 --> 01:04:04,976
It is really

866
01:04:06,376 --> 01:04:09,695
Interesting that this is not

867
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:21,960
And the wording is not going to preclude any resident who has the qualifications from serving in this body in these positions.

868
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:26,960
As we know, and as I have done multiple interviews,

869
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:30,960
if we get the best fit, we may not get

870
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,960
the exact person that we need.

871
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:35,960
But guess what?

872
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:36,960
They'll learn, they'll evolve,

873
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:37,960
and they will do it.

874
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:39,960
Let's see the planning commission.

875
01:04:40,688 --> 01:04:46,248
You know, we have several lay persons that, including myself,

876
01:04:46,248 --> 01:04:50,688
that was selected in place on the planning commission.

877
01:04:52,688 --> 01:04:57,327
I'm from corporate America, but yet I was

878
01:04:57,327 --> 01:05:00,208
selected on it and I understood it, and

879
01:05:00,208 --> 01:05:04,768
I thought I contributed to that.

880
01:05:04,768 --> 01:05:05,268
So.

881
01:05:05,648 --> 01:05:17,887
But in the areas that we want to focus on to establish the cultural component of our city.

882
01:05:17,887 --> 01:05:24,487
Because there was a time eight years ago where we asked, where are we going?

883
01:05:24,487 --> 01:05:27,088
Do we need to change our vision and our mission?

884
01:05:27,088 --> 01:05:30,407
What is the culture of universally, how did that evolve?

885
01:05:30,407 --> 01:05:33,728
And we never really could tie that one off with the bow.

886
01:05:34,208 --> 01:05:40,527
So here's an opportunity that maybe we could figure that out and do it.

887
01:05:40,527 --> 01:05:46,248
And as I stated before, if we don't have the right expertise on staff or

888
01:05:46,248 --> 01:05:48,568
on the commission, we can.

889
01:05:48,831 --> 01:05:54,311
either hire it in or ask people to come and give us advice.

890
01:05:54,311 --> 01:06:00,192
But it isn't as enriching if there was someone seated on the commission for

891
01:06:00,192 --> 01:06:05,992
all the grassroots conversations that go forward in time.

892
01:06:05,992 --> 01:06:11,391
And as we know, we have been on

893
01:06:11,391 --> 01:06:15,992
the selection committee interviewing.

894
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:22,840
We have said no to a few people or more, because they don't fit the certain criteria.

895
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:27,079
And this is basically what we're saying here.

896
01:06:27,079 --> 01:06:37,199
You can do it, or you can't do, and this just says it doesn't say we must.

897
01:06:37,199 --> 01:06:42,000
But it's recommended to look for these.

898
01:06:42,224 --> 01:06:48,903
these characteristics, these skills and abilities, to place them on this particular commission.

899
01:06:48,903 --> 01:06:54,103
And because the culturalist is so specific,

900
01:06:54,103 --> 01:06:58,664
we may want to focus someone who has a little more,

901
01:07:00,103 --> 01:07:04,744
that maybe education in it, or

902
01:07:04,744 --> 01:07:08,704
coming forward with some experience with it.

903
01:07:08,943 --> 01:07:13,943
Like I had given out examples of the librarian, the historian,

904
01:07:13,943 --> 01:07:20,943
someone who has human resource development in that high corporate level

905
01:07:20,943 --> 01:07:27,943
where they're looking at corporate culture could have some identifiable knowledge skills

906
01:07:27,943 --> 01:07:36,943
and abilities to help the culture move forward in our city.

907
01:07:39,215 --> 01:07:50,215
I don't really want everyone to get prickly over that we're going to exclude our residents from these two seats.

908
01:07:52,215 --> 01:07:58,896
That would really be hamstringing us along the way, because we would like a full bodied commission.

909
01:07:58,896 --> 01:08:07,456
We have been hamstring right now with our parks commission, there's been a vacancy for quite a long time.

910
01:08:08,496 --> 01:08:17,935
And hopefully they're doing fine, but we have that in several open seats on other commissions as well.

911
01:08:17,935 --> 01:08:26,536
So it's not to say that this is going to be exclusive, it is not exclusive.

912
01:08:26,536 --> 01:08:33,176
But to keep in mind when you are recruiting and you're asking the qualifying questions,

913
01:08:33,176 --> 01:08:35,256
who's the best fit for the culturalists?

914
01:08:36,207 --> 01:08:42,247
identify as with those skills and abilities that will lead the way.

915
01:08:43,608 --> 01:08:48,207
And that's all I'm stating here.

916
01:08:48,207 --> 01:08:53,047
It's not like I want to hold it for a non-resident.

917
01:08:54,247 --> 01:08:55,688
I don't.

918
01:08:55,688 --> 01:08:57,488
It, I, want the skills, and

919
01:08:57,488 --> 01:09:03,087
abilities because I know from a lot of people that I've spoken with.

920
01:09:03,423 --> 01:09:08,024
This will make a huge difference if we have these expertise.

921
01:09:08,024 --> 01:09:14,583
Whether it's in one person, whether it is in all seven people or nine, I don't know.

922
01:09:14,583 --> 01:09:19,783
But we need to glean them somehow so that when they make their decisions,

923
01:09:19,783 --> 01:09:26,823
ask the questions they have an awareness or there needs to be some sort of training so they can do that.

924
01:09:26,823 --> 01:09:30,463
Just like on the planning commission, there's training as we move along.

925
01:09:30,783 --> 01:09:33,224
We have to ask qualifying questions ourselves.

926
01:09:33,224 --> 01:09:41,024
So this is the same as in any other commission that, that you're on if you are going to do an amazing job for your city.

927
01:09:43,024 --> 01:09:44,904
Mayor, can I inject a point of order please?

928
01:09:44,904 --> 01:09:46,623
Certainly, council, remember what?

929
01:09:46,623 --> 01:09:52,743
We just had several questions slash comments that have veered into the council consideration portion of the event.

930
01:09:52,743 --> 01:09:54,384
And as far as I understand, we're still on.

931
01:09:54,912 --> 01:09:57,152
staff report and technical questions.

932
01:09:57,152 --> 01:09:58,572
So I don't know if we can get a motion so we

933
01:09:58,572 --> 01:10:00,351
can move on to the council consideration piece

934
01:10:00,351 --> 01:10:01,551
if were ready to move.

935
01:10:01,551 --> 01:10:04,551
Yeah, I think we will be or on the fact we're almost there.

936
01:10:04,551 --> 01:10:06,712
And yeah, from my perspective,

937
01:10:06,712 --> 01:10:09,792
I really don' t mind whether people ask questions here

938
01:10:09,792 --> 01:10:12,192
or ask question when we get into that piece.

939
01:10:12,192 --> 01:10:14,891
You also need to call for public comments at some point.

940
01:10:14,891 --> 01:10:16,532
That's right.

941
01:10:16,532 --> 01:10:21,431
So, all right, any other questions, comments people want to make?

942
01:10:21,431 --> 01:10:22,631
I t think they've all been great.

943
01:10:22,631 --> 01:10:24,032
They've been good.

944
01:10:24,032 --> 01:10:33,231
So this is the point where we will open for public comment, and then I don't see any.

945
01:10:33,231 --> 01:10:35,792
So we'll close public comments.

946
01:10:35,792 --> 01:10:40,112
And with that said, now I shall call for the motion.

947
01:10:40,112 --> 01:10:43,591
I'm going to hold my comments till afterwards, but is your motion?

948
01:10:43,591 --> 01:10:45,912
Mayor Pro Tem.

949
01:10:50,351 --> 01:10:55,271
I will make a motion to pass an ordinance of the City of University Place, Washington,

950
01:10:55,271 --> 01:10:59,551
and the mending section 1.35.030 of

951
01:10:59,551 --> 01:11:02,712
the UPC addressing the membership of

952
01:11:02,712 --> 01:11:05,271
the Arts and Culture Advisory Commission.

953
01:11:05,271 --> 01:11:06,952
Thank you. Is there a second?

954
01:11:06,952 --> 01:11:07,952
Second.

955
01:11:07,952 --> 01:11:09,271
Thank You. It's been properly moved and

956
01:11:09,271 --> 01:11:11,752
seconded to a pass in ordinance

957
01:11:11,752 --> 01:11:12,872
of The City Of The University of

958
01:11:19,551 --> 01:11:26,612
Investing the membership of the Arts and Culture Advisory Commission at this point, are there any council comments?

959
01:11:26,612 --> 01:11:28,112
Council member Wood.

960
01:11:28,112 --> 01:11:29,271
Thank you, Mayor.

961
01:11:29,271 --> 01:11:36,992
So, the discussion we've had so far, I came in here very concerned about the residency requirement.

962
01:11:36,992 --> 01:11:43,992
And actually, thank you Mr. Keyser for showing that verbiage had said actually every council could theoretically,

963
01:11:43,992 --> 01:11:47,712
or every commission could, theoretically have a non-resident because that's ready in our code.

964
01:11:48,224 --> 01:11:50,224
And that hasn't been an issue to date.

965
01:11:50,224 --> 01:11:57,064
So I am less concerned about that now than I was, and that will not stop me from supporting this idea.

966
01:11:57,064 --> 01:12:02,823
I do have a concern that I don't think we need to address this part of this legislation, but I want to voice it for the record.

967
01:12:04,743 --> 01:12:09,984
Bringing in an individual with experience in marketing, fundraising and major event productions.

968
01:12:09,984 --> 01:12:11,904
I agree that the expertise would be valuable,

969
01:12:11,904 --> 01:12:16,743
but we want be very careful that we have that line clearly delineated.

970
01:12:16,975 --> 01:12:22,336
that they are advising, not doing, they're not taking over a role of fundraising necessarily,

971
01:12:22,336 --> 01:12:26,256
unless so directed by the council. And I just want to make sure that we watch it as we go forward

972
01:12:26,256 --> 01:12:30,895
because I can see that become a potential source of conflict, either with city staff or with council

973
01:12:30,895 --> 01:12:36,815
later on. Because yes, the expertise is nice, but I want make to the role is very clear.

974
01:12:36,815 --> 01:12:38,095
And that's all my own comment. Thank you, Mayor.

975
01:12:38,095 --> 01:12:41,456
I think those are great comment, you know, and I believe the language of our

976
01:12:46,496 --> 01:12:48,615
I feel good about that. Council member Grazie.

977
01:12:48,615 --> 01:12:51,136
Thank you, Mayor. Thank for the discussion on the dice evening.

978
01:12:51,136 --> 01:12:54,055
I think it's been robust and informative.

979
01:12:54,055 --> 01:12:56,136
Thank You for that expertise as well.

980
01:12:56,136 --> 01:12:58,296
I look forward to supporting this.

981
01:12:58,296 --> 01:13:01,975
I just want to say thank you in advance to our citizens, residents,

982
01:13:01,975 --> 01:13:05,055
and possible non-residents that may serve on this commission.

983
01:13:06,032 --> 01:13:19,032
At the end of the day, we're talking about individuals that are taking time out of their schedules to volunteer their time to make our city better in this way, and putting in their expertise, whatever their address may be.

984
01:13:19,032 --> 01:13:21,231
And so, I just want to say thank you in advance.

985
01:13:21,231 --> 01:13:27,032
I think they're going to, make your city, better, this is a great step forward, so looking forward to getting it off the ground.

986
01:13:27,032 --> 01:13:28,032
That's all I have. Thank you.

987
01:13:28,032 --> 01:13:31,032
Thank, thank, you any other comments, council member cutting him.

988
01:13:33,743 --> 01:13:35,743
What is the timeline for this I

989
01:13:36,543 --> 01:13:39,743
Think that the only way I'm able to support it is if I understand

990
01:13:40,623 --> 01:13:44,604
What the turnaround time is to when we're going to open this up it can't be fluid

991
01:13:44,604 --> 01:13:48,323
I don't think that's productive for the committee that interviews them

992
01:13:48,323 --> 01:13:52,003
I think it's protected for any of us to determine, you know

993
01:13:52,944 --> 01:13:56,184
Today, it's non-residents, tomorrow it is residents.

994
01:13:56,184 --> 01:14:03,463
So again, I think that there needs to be some level of a date to determine what we do next because we're not always.

995
01:14:03,463 --> 01:14:06,984
The committee needs still understand when we put that forward.

996
01:14:06,984 --> 01:14:14,064
So I would think it would be a little kind of reckless of us to not really have a timeline against when were doing this.

997
01:14:14,224 --> 01:14:27,224
Yeah, my understanding is the city attorney advised us a little while ago that once an ordinance is passed by the council, it becomes a law, if you will, within five days unless we change that.

998
01:14:27,224 --> 01:14:31,224
Five days after publication, unless you set a different date.

999
01:14:31,224 --> 01:14:32,224
Right.

1000
01:14:32,224 --> 01:14:42,224
So, and to address your concern, council member Cunningham, amendment would be in order to the body of the ordinance if we were inclined to adjust the timeline.

1001
01:14:42,224 --> 01:14:43,224
Okay.

1002
01:14:44,207 --> 01:14:51,328
Such an amendment you could admit you can file request a motion to amend section 5 that the ordinance would be full force and effect

1003
01:14:52,127 --> 01:14:56,007
Insert date here or on or after insert date. Here

1004
01:14:57,007 --> 01:14:59,007
Okay, thank you

1005
01:14:59,167 --> 01:15:01,167
any other questions

1006
01:15:01,528 --> 01:15:02,648
comments

1007
01:15:02,648 --> 01:15:07,408
All right seeing that there's none. I just want to kind of weigh in here a little bit and

1008
01:15:08,087 --> 01:15:11,807
This has been a great conversation. All I really like to say that

1009
01:15:12,576 --> 01:15:17,975
great points made by both the pros and cons for this particular amendment.

1010
01:15:17,975 --> 01:15:24,336
And as I kind of listened to it, I kinda kind thought, yeah, this makes sense, that makes

1011
01:15:24,336 --> 01:15:25,336
sense.

1012
01:15:25,336 --> 01:15:30,815
The thing that reminds me, though, is the fact that we all have run for

1013
01:15:30,815 --> 01:15:32,615
our particular offices.

1014
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:39,119
because we all share a passion and that's where our city and ensure that what we

1015
01:15:39,119 --> 01:15:42,319
all decide and do here is what's best for our citizens.

1016
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:49,760
Within that context, we have a subcommittee of the council that we

1017
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:52,640
have appointed and we trust.

1018
01:15:52,703 --> 01:15:59,024
to do what's right at the end of the day and you know for the tenure that I had on that committee

1019
01:15:59,024 --> 01:16:05,904
I truly appreciated you, know this is the port of The Mayors at The Time and the council members

1020
01:16:05,904 --> 01:16:12,783
of giving that Committee the latitude and The Trust to Do What's Right and so I'm always hesitant

1021
01:16:17,712 --> 01:16:23,992
That the wisdom that they apply when they're interviewing candidates and and select and nominating candidates

1022
01:16:23,992 --> 01:16:29,471
I should say no for the council to approve is always in the best interest of the city I

1023
01:16:30,431 --> 01:16:33,431
I'm always first and foremost

1024
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:39,760
when we look at candidates as do what's right. Number one is if we have that talent within our

1025
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:45,199
city, those are the candidates who I like to put forward first. If you can't find that

1026
01:16:45,199 --> 01:16:50,720
talent and as several people said tonight, we've got voids on our commissions because we can find

1027
01:16:52,463 --> 01:17:01,304
Then I think it's okay then to look beyond that, but we should never tie that committee's hands in looking at what's in the best interest.

1028
01:17:01,304 --> 01:17:06,583
So I don't have any qualms in supporting and moving this initiative forward.

1029
01:17:06,583 --> 01:17:11,304
But I thank everyone has the right heart at the end of the day.

1030
01:17:11,304 --> 01:17:16,144
So seeing that there's no further comments, I would like to call for a vote at this time.

1031
01:17:17,728 --> 01:17:22,887
Question comment council member would I thank you mayor just back to councilmember Cunningham's comment

1032
01:17:22,887 --> 01:17:27,207
To is there do you have any desire? What would be the right date for the committee?

1033
01:17:27,648 --> 01:17:32,568
If we were to make an amendment to this tonight is their one that's better than five days after publication

1034
01:17:32,568 --> 01:17:36,927
I just think because historically filling the commission seats as they alluded to I mean

1035
01:17:37,583 --> 01:17:41,144
Parks has been vacant for six months, seven months now.

1036
01:17:41,144 --> 01:17:45,743
So I think because it's such a slow grind to get all of the commissions filled,

1037
01:17:45,743 --> 01:17:47,823
I just think we need to give it a good shot.

1038
01:17:47,823 --> 01:17:49,944
So, I'd say at least the remainder of

1039
01:17:49,944 --> 01:17:52,344
the year or in January,

1040
01:17:52,344 --> 01:17:53,823
I'm just saying that let's, you know,

1041
01:17:53,823 --> 01:17:57,623
we don't know what we're going to encounter this week alone with just our interviews.

1042
01:17:57,623 --> 01:18:01,024
I am just say, with the level of marketing that we do,

1043
01:18:01,024 --> 01:18:03,344
the promotion of, the things that have going on,

1044
01:18:03,344 --> 01:18:05,224
everything is always kind of hit and miss.

1045
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,960
We'd have to give it a little bit of time to determine what that looks like.

1046
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:14,960
And then I think that we armed ourselves with thoughtful questions that can point directly to that.

1047
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:16,960
That can potentially just get.

1048
01:18:17,247 --> 01:18:21,648
get us to that point. This is a very new commission. We're, you know, word of mouth is happening.

1049
01:18:21,648 --> 01:18:26,847
We are talking about it a lot. It's been promoted. But I think given our history of how things kind

1050
01:18:26,847 --> 01:18:31,488
of percolate and materialize, we just need to give it, a little bit of a shot. So I'm saying,

1051
01:18:31,488 --> 01:18:37,488
like, let's just give to, till January or give, it to you, know the fall or the beginning of winter,

1052
01:18:37,488 --> 01:18:42,528
whatever, just not five days is what I am saying from the moment that this goes into

1053
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:52,000
And I'm just thinking that, just based on historically how it tends to go with commissions.

1054
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:56,800
I mean, we've interviewed for parks for a while, planning sparsely.

1055
01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:01,600
And all the commissions are just getting a closer perspective in view right now.

1056
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:04,000
And we're looking into what that looks like, and there are some vacancies.

1057
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:08,079
There are somethings that need to change and we are looking at what it looks, but it's a slow grind.

1058
01:19:08,079 --> 01:19:11,640
And, I think that we need be thoughtful about that and just give it a little bit of time.

1059
01:19:14,399 --> 01:19:18,640
You're right from the perspective that we wanted to get it right.

1060
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:24,399
I think that by putting off a date out into the future

1061
01:19:24,399 --> 01:19:29,960
might take away that committee's opportunity if they have the right candidate.

1062
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:34,760
And they go, this is the person we want now, and I don't know, I'm speculating.

1063
01:19:35,104 --> 01:19:37,743
you would not be allowed to recommend that person.

1064
01:19:37,743 --> 01:19:38,623
Sure, I understand.

1065
01:19:38,623 --> 01:19:39,984
So, you know,

1066
01:19:39,984 --> 01:19:41,264
I would say that,

1067
01:19:41,264 --> 01:19:43,743
you allow the ordinance,

1068
01:19:43,743 --> 01:19:45,423
my suggestion would be to allow

1069
01:19:45,423 --> 01:19:47,503
the Ordinance to go into effect,

1070
01:19:47,503 --> 01:19:49,583
let the committee do their work.

1071
01:19:49,583 --> 01:19:51,423
If they have the candidates,

1072
01:19:51,423 --> 01:19:52,783
great, if they don't.

1073
01:19:53,247 --> 01:19:58,087
Your hands are not tied and it gives you the flexibility to move forward.

1074
01:19:58,087 --> 01:20:10,448
I would really hate to say, well, boy, we have the right candidate, but now we're going to lose him because we got to wait till October or January or who knows when to make that happen.

1075
01:20:10,448 --> 01:20:19,608
So I think we've got a good process in our city that allows ordinances to take effect and then let the committee do its job.

1076
01:20:19,608 --> 01:20:21,328
That's what I want to advocate for.

1077
01:20:21,583 --> 01:20:27,264
Mayor, for a time you had a comment it was going to say the exact same thing. So I will

1078
01:20:28,104 --> 01:20:29,904
Okay

1079
01:20:29,904 --> 01:20:31,904
Okay, seeing that there's none

1080
01:20:32,304 --> 01:20:34,304
Madam clerk would you call the role place?

1081
01:20:35,863 --> 01:20:37,863
Thank you mayor

1082
01:20:38,184 --> 01:20:40,184
Council member for Groa. Hi

1083
01:20:42,024 --> 01:20:44,024
Council Member Boykin

1084
01:20:44,024 --> 01:20:45,344
Yes

1085
01:20:45,344 --> 01:20:47,344
Councilmember Cunningham

1086
01:20:47,743 --> 01:20:49,463
Yes

1087
01:20:49,463 --> 01:20:51,463
Council number wood

1088
01:20:50,992 --> 01:21:08,992
Thank you Madam Clerk, let's move now to item those a great debate and I appreciate everyone's engagement.

1089
01:21:08,992 --> 01:21:15,992
Let's moved to Item Number 9 on our agenda as the City Manager and Council reports and comments.

1090
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:24,119
Well, thank you mayor and council members as we continue the city event season after

1091
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:28,000
Wonderful movie in the park 250 of de-celebration on Saturday night

1092
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:32,359
We look forward to tomorrow night the national night out

1093
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:36,479
45 neighborhoods. I understand have been signed up

1094
01:21:36,992 --> 01:21:42,391
And we're going to be visiting those neighborhoods with the fire and police.

1095
01:21:42,391 --> 01:21:48,431
And you all know about that and it's meeting 430 in our police department.

1096
01:21:48,431 --> 01:21:50,551
And then we'll move out from there.

1097
01:21:50,551 --> 01:21:55,712
Then Wednesday night, which is the August 5th.

1098
01:21:55,712 --> 01:22:01,671
Out here on Market Square from six to eight is another music on the square concert.

1099
01:22:01,671 --> 01:22:02,671
Mark Hurwitz.

1100
01:22:03,471 --> 01:22:08,351
Has his band. He's also the booking agent for the book. Any other bands, but he also has his own band

1101
01:22:08,351 --> 01:22:12,992
So he usually plays one of the concerts and he will be there on Wednesday night from 6 to 8

1102
01:22:14,351 --> 01:22:20,112
The Thursday is a concert in the orchard. It's not every Thursday. I believe it's every other Thursday

1103
01:22:20,112 --> 01:22:24,112
So anyway this Thursday august 6th from 630

1104
01:22:24,591 --> 01:22:30,391
To eight is in the orchard is going to be a fantastic concert

1105
01:22:30,391 --> 01:22:35,832
I can't remember the name of the van, but it's rock and roll magic. Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem

1106
01:22:37,104 --> 01:22:42,663
With that I'll conclude my comments. We're not done with events yet. This this this summer

1107
01:22:42,663 --> 01:22:47,923
But it continues on and I will turn it back to you mayor. Okay, great. Thank you, mr.

1108
01:22:48,663 --> 01:22:54,644
Okay council, let's just start down here at one end with a council member boykin will roll through the council

1109
01:22:55,104 --> 01:23:00,623
Thank You mayor, Let me just center committee engagement and continue to theme of our city manager having

1110
01:23:01,119 --> 01:23:07,119
share with us what's going on so my what so what now what thought process is that community

1111
01:23:07,119 --> 01:23:09,760
engagement has been very important.

1112
01:23:09,823 --> 01:23:11,823
It hit me differently this summer.

1113
01:23:11,823 --> 01:23:15,904
It made me want to see what I could do in terms of being more impactful, in

1114
01:23:15,904 --> 01:23:16,224
terms

1115
01:23:16,224 --> 01:23:22,144
of one-on-ones, as well as the expectation of how it is that that might move different agendas forward.

1116
01:23:22,144 --> 01:23:26,944
I've really enjoyed how that has a different approach for me at music

1117
01:23:26,944 --> 01:23:30,064
on the square. For example, the current Apple Orchard

1118
01:23:30,064 --> 01:23:31,264
concerts,

1119
01:23:31,264 --> 01:23:32,384
the conversations as

1120
01:23:32,384 --> 01:23:32,623
well

1121
01:23:32,623 --> 01:23:32,783
as

1122
01:23:32,783 --> 01:23:33,984
the fun

1123
01:23:33,984 --> 01:23:37,024
that people have told me that we've enjoyed together

1124
01:23:39,152 --> 01:23:45,832
It's also led to some different ways of being close and personal when it comes to folks

1125
01:23:45,832 --> 01:23:50,511
that have vested interest in how they see the city of the university place and how it

1126
01:23:50,511 --> 01:23:53,152
can move forward better, different special.

1127
01:23:53,152 --> 01:24:00,271
That's got me on a couple of opportunities to walk and join other members of community

1128
01:24:03,152 --> 01:24:11,551
why they see the city a particular way, what nuances are actually in play that actually promote the wealth and value of our city.

1129
01:24:11,551 --> 01:24:22,551
That hit me in a way that made me feel really in tune with how it is that we can be better leaders in this capacity at the dais.

1130
01:24:22,551 --> 01:24:26,631
And so I'm excited about what that means is I think about

1131
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:32,079
is going forward tomorrow in National Night Out and just want to continue

1132
01:24:32,079 --> 01:24:42,600
elevating that spirit as we celebrate 250th very intentionally as

1133
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:48,680
we go forward. That's all I have in terms of comments, Mr. Mayor. Thanks.

1134
01:24:46,975 --> 01:24:49,775
Thank you, Councilman Breaking Council member Cunningham.

1135
01:24:49,775 --> 01:24:52,055
Yeah, just echoing that for sure.

1136
01:24:52,055 --> 01:24:54,176
The energy is exciting in the summer.

1137
01:24:54,176 --> 01:24:57,136
So just coming off of a couple of great ribbon cuttings

1138
01:24:57,136 --> 01:24:58,576
that we were able to be a part of,

1139
01:24:58,576 --> 01:25:01,055
that was exciting to Osaka, Korean barbecue,

1140
01:25:01,055 --> 01:25:03,176
and then flourish the skin studio that

1141
01:25:03,176 --> 01:25:05,615
was excited and to hear their whys of why they chose

1142
01:25:05,615 --> 01:25:07,855
university places really profound and exciting.

1143
01:25:07,855 --> 01:25:09,615
And I know Abby at Flourish was

1144
01:25:09,615 --> 01:25:12,655
excited to part us and she relocated to university place.

1145
01:25:12,655 --> 01:25:14,576
She used to become South Tacoma Way in Tacoma.

1146
01:25:16,336 --> 01:25:17,336
her and...

1147
01:25:17,551 --> 01:25:22,952
She's excited where she lives from a residence and excited, you know, how quiet and serene it is where

1148
01:25:22,952 --> 01:25:27,471
she picked her, her place to be for business, so it was exciting to

1149
01:25:27,471 --> 01:25:30,912
be part of that and to see other commissioners there and of course our

1150
01:25:30,912 --> 01:25:35,311
fellow council members, and same with Osaka Korean barbecue, that's been great.

1151
01:25:35,311 --> 01:25:40,431
And then we toured Habitat for Humanity, one of their sites over in South Tacoma,

1152
01:25:40,431 --> 01:25:41,712
Mayor Pro Tem and myself,

1153
01:25:41,712 --> 01:25:45,471
and that was enlightening and it's, it

1154
01:25:46,863 --> 01:25:52,064
of thoughtful ways and we're excited to just kind of see what comes of that and what the

1155
01:25:52,064 --> 01:25:57,423
good work that Habitat is already doing in our surrounding county and you know what potentials

1156
01:25:57,423 --> 01:26:03,423
lie ahead in the future so it was great to see potential for home ownership for community

1157
01:26:03,423 --> 01:26:08,703
members and then the different varieties of housing that they have. So excited for what

1158
01:26:08,703 --> 01:26:12,144
that looks like and they ask us pretty provoking questions about what we are doing

1159
01:26:15,296 --> 01:26:18,615
We want to be able to say that we've contributed to that in a lot of ways.

1160
01:26:18,615 --> 01:26:20,576
So we're excited about what that could potentially look like.

1161
01:26:20,576 --> 01:26:24,815
So it's been a really good week, couple weeks of just connecting with business owners.

1162
01:26:24,815 --> 01:26:28,815
Of course, moving in the park was a total vibe, I thought.

1163
01:26:28,815 --> 01:26:34,015
It was so fun and it was exciting to have such thematic to 50th.

1164
01:26:34,015 --> 01:26:37,695
I loved and I heard that people just really loved the variety that

1165
01:26:37,695 --> 01:26:38,655
we had at the.

1166
01:26:38,591 --> 01:26:42,112
the day. You know, if you came for the movie with your family, then that was

1167
01:26:42,112 --> 01:26:45,311
exciting. But if it came from the beer garden and the in the bands, that

1168
01:26:45,311 --> 01:26:48,912
was also exciting, so it just created a whole day full of, you know different

1169
01:26:48,912 --> 01:26:52,431
varieties and you can see people coming and going as the activities suited them.

1170
01:26:52,431 --> 01:26:56,271
So it was fun to be a part of it. Thank God the weather held up for us.

1171
01:26:56,271 --> 01:26:59,712
I understand now why we didn't have the hot air balloons at first. I didn t, but

1172
01:26:59,712 --> 01:27:03,072
when my hat was blowing off, I totally understood. So, it

1173
01:27:03,072 --> 01:27:06,431
was great. It was a good couple weeks for UP and of

1174
01:27:07,887 --> 01:27:10,408
So here we are, that's all I have, Mayor.

1175
01:27:10,408 --> 01:27:11,847
Totally awesome, thank you.

1176
01:27:11,847 --> 01:27:15,448
Council Member Figueroa, no reports, mayor.

1177
01:27:15,448 --> 01:27:18,087
Okay, Thank you, Council member Wood.

1178
01:27:18,087 --> 01:27:21,368
I just wanted to first thank city staff

1179
01:27:21,368 --> 01:27:23,807
and everybody who's involved with the 250 celebration.

1180
01:27:23,807 --> 01:27:25,207
That was an amazing event.

1181
01:27:26,368 --> 01:27:27,967
And I will say that there's, well,

1182
01:27:27,967 --> 01:27:29,047
there is so much good stuff.

1183
01:27:29,047 --> 01:27:30,768
There's the bands, I talked to people

1184
01:27:30,768 --> 01:27:32,648
and they're engaged, they are having fun.

1185
01:27:32,648 --> 01:27:36,368
But actually, my heart warmest was looking at

1186
01:27:36,416 --> 01:27:39,815
the hundreds of kids on that playground.

1187
01:27:39,815 --> 01:27:41,935
Thank you, Chris, for the work you did in that,

1188
01:27:41,935 --> 01:27:44,456
and thank you for a community who supported it,

1189
01:27:44,456 --> 01:27:46,456
staff who did the works.

1190
01:27:46,456 --> 01:27:49,015
That was just an amazing event, and I just love seeing.

1191
01:27:48,927 --> 01:27:51,728
that place put to use like that, it was perfect.

1192
01:27:51,728 --> 01:27:52,807
My comments, Mayor, thank you.

1193
01:27:52,807 --> 01:27:53,648
Great comments.

1194
01:27:53,648 --> 01:27:55,608
Thank you, Council Member Grassi.

1195
01:27:55,608 --> 01:27:56,528
Thank You, mayor.

1196
01:27:56,528 --> 01:27:59,768
I'd like to echo the excitement to welcome

1197
01:27:59,768 --> 01:28:01,768
our new small businesses into the community.

1198
01:28:01,768 --> 01:28:03,927
It was great to be at the ribbon cuttings with Mayor Pro Tem

1199
01:28:03,927 --> 01:28:07,688
and Council member Cunningham for Asaka Sushi and Flourish.

1200
01:28:07,688 --> 01:28:10,648
You know, I love to see new businesses open in our city.

1201
01:28:10,648 --> 01:28:13,047
So I'm thrilled that we got to Welcome them.

1202
01:28:13,047 --> 01:28:14,688
I want to thank Wesley, who's doing a great job

1203
01:28:14,688 --> 01:28:17,087
in his new role in economic development.

1204
01:28:18,287 --> 01:28:25,287
work, also echoing what Council Member Boykin alluded to earlier, got to go on a walk with

1205
01:28:25,287 --> 01:28:30,847
Council member Boyken and community member Ofska, and as we did a litter pickup around

1206
01:28:30,847 --> 01:28:31,847
the city.

1207
01:28:31,847 --> 01:28:32,847
So that was wonderful.

1208
01:28:32,847 --> 01:28:37,528
And you know that I have a passion for cleanliness and beautification in our city, so that

1209
01:28:37,528 --> 01:28:38,927
was a great time.

1210
01:28:38,927 --> 01:28:39,927
And eye opening.

1211
01:28:39,927 --> 01:28:42,127
And thank you for spearheading that.

1212
01:28:42,127 --> 01:28:44,728
I loved meeting with engaged citizens.

1213
01:28:44,728 --> 01:28:45,728
So thank.

1214
01:28:47,503 --> 01:28:53,463
I, you are a leadership group meeting, United Regional Approach to Homelessness with the county.

1215
01:28:53,463 --> 01:28:58,863
They are looking forward to presenting with Chair Hitchen on September 8th.

1216
01:28:58,863 --> 01:29:03,463
So I'm looking for to bringing that forward too council with their presentation.

1217
01:29:03,463 --> 01:29:09,743
It's been a lot of work, coordinated efforts around the County to have a unified regional approach to homelessness.

1218
01:29:09,743 --> 01:29:14,064
And it's encouraging to see other cities sign on to the resolution,

1219
01:29:16,735 --> 01:29:19,536
And others that are forthcoming in the coming days, so

1220
01:29:20,047 --> 01:29:22,287
looking forward to bringing that to council a lot of hard work. A lot

1221
01:29:22,287 --> 01:29:25,247
of people have been passionate about that. I also want to

1222
01:29:25,247 --> 01:29:28,047
make note that the farmers market and university place has a new

1223
01:29:28,047 --> 01:29:32,127
home. It's located on Thursdays from three to seven at our church

1224
01:29:32,127 --> 01:29:36,368
parking lot, 5,067th Avenue West, just was not getting the

1225
01:29:36,368 --> 01:29:39,328
visibility in the back of Curtis. And so we got our heads

1226
01:29:39,328 --> 01:29:41,568
together and they've had their first week there and

1227
01:29:41,568 --> 01:29:45,807
they did more business the first 45 minutes last week than they

1228
01:29:45,807 --> 01:29:48,768
did the whole time over at their previous location. So vendors are

1229
01:29:49,391 --> 01:29:55,551
Lots of room for the kids to play playground, so I encourage you, they take EBT and it's

1230
01:29:55,551 --> 01:29:57,311
a great way to meet our local vendors.

1231
01:29:57,311 --> 01:30:04,431
So many sold out of their goods last week, farmers market, Thursdays, 3-7, corner of

1232
01:30:04,431 --> 01:30:05,431
67th and Cirque.

1233
01:30:05,775 --> 01:30:11,176
And I also, of course, like my colleagues, had the excitement of being at movie in the park.

1234
01:30:11,176 --> 01:30:12,376
What a phenomenal day.

1235
01:30:12,376 --> 01:30:15,176
I want to thank our public safety team for keeping it safe.

1236
01:30:15,176 --> 01:30:19,256
I think people felt safe that they could meander around and their kids could play.

1237
01:30:19,256 --> 01:30:23,496
That's a huge benefit to our community that's unique to university place.

1238
01:30:23,496 --> 01:30:27,176
And as a mom specifically, it felt well cared for.

1239
01:30:27,176 --> 01:30:28,775
So thank you to, our Public Safety Team,

1240
01:30:28,775 --> 01:30:32,095
our staff for creating that environment to the bands that played.

1241
01:30:35,087 --> 01:30:40,768
If you were there you saw the kids market and one of the businesses that were at the

1242
01:30:40,768 --> 01:30:47,408
kids' market is Origami Zeus and Zeus is an incredible elementary student right here

1243
01:30:47,408 --> 01:30:50,927
in University Place that started his own origami business.

1244
01:30:50,927 --> 01:30:55,887
I met him teaching origamie for the first time at Tacoma Rescue Mission to kids that

1245
01:30:55,887 --> 01:31:01,967
were housed at Adam Street Family Shelter so he started with a heart just to give kids

1246
01:31:04,304 --> 01:31:09,684
to learn and now he has created a business and he's sold out of all of his

1247
01:31:09,684 --> 01:31:13,944
summer blast additions he also gives lessons to kids for pay what you can

1248
01:31:13,944 --> 01:31:20,384
lessons and different so Zeus if you're watching I am so proud of you he is one

1249
01:31:20,384 --> 01:31:24,384
of the best young entrepreneurs in our city and gets my small business highlight

1250
01:31:24,384 --> 01:31:29,064
this evening so so excited I'm gonna learn origami so I'll have gifts for all

1251
01:31:31,391 --> 01:31:33,671
And finally, it was such an honor, and it

1252
01:31:33,671 --> 01:31:35,671
was the first time that I've ever been asked to speak

1253
01:31:35,671 --> 01:31:38,832
at a promotion ceremony for Colonel Kelly Beacon.

1254
01:31:38,832 --> 01:31:41,391
And it is such a incredible honor.

1255
01:31:41,391 --> 01:31:46,112
She is a well-esteemed colonel now in the United States Army

1256
01:31:46,112 --> 01:31:50,471
and has done two residencies, Dr. Fleming,

1257
01:31:50,471 --> 01:31:51,631
and three tours.

1258
01:31:51,631 --> 01:31:54,471
And as one of her highlights of his story

1259
01:31:54,471 --> 01:31:59,192
is setting up a field hospital for Afghan refugees,

1260
01:31:59,192 --> 01:32:00,832
postnatal prenatal care.

1261
01:32:00,783 --> 01:32:06,264
And her resume goes on and on, but she is some of the very best of university place.

1262
01:32:06,264 --> 01:32:10,224
And it was such an honor to be asked to a part of her promotion ceremony.

1263
01:32:10,224 --> 01:32:11,904
So that is all I have, Mayor.

1264
01:32:11,904 --> 01:32:12,904
Thank you.

1265
01:32:12,904 --> 01:32:16,264
You warm my heart, thank you, mayor pro tem.

1266
01:32:17,543 --> 01:32:19,503
Okay, Thank You Mayor,

1267
01:32:21,904 --> 01:32:23,944
in regards to keeping.

1268
01:32:24,623 --> 01:32:26,863
University plays beautiful.

1269
01:32:26,863 --> 01:32:31,823
There is a discussion going on with our grassroots community,

1270
01:32:31,823 --> 01:32:36,524
Citizen Asuka, myself, and the rotary at the current apple

1271
01:32:36,524 --> 01:32:40,904
orchard that is highlighting one of my favorite bands in the area.

1272
01:32:40,904 --> 01:32:42,264
Rock and roll magic.

1273
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:48,079
If you like the Beatles, 60, 70, 80s, 90s tunes that you can dance to,

1274
01:32:48,079 --> 01:32:54,800
you know, as it will be a fun, family-friendly event there.

1275
01:32:54,800 --> 01:33:01,479
And with a discussion, with with if you people on how to make university

1276
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:03,600
plays even more beautiful.

1277
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:08,319
And I'm excited to hear that because the rotary has been

1278
01:33:08,319 --> 01:33:11,680
picking litter up in our city for quite a few years.

1279
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:18,479
Now they dedicated one day, and so now we're just talking about how we can improve it,

1280
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:25,880
make it better, maybe a cultural change where everyone will think about keeping their litter.

1281
01:33:26,351 --> 01:33:31,391
to themselves until they find the proper receptacle instead of just letting it

1282
01:33:31,391 --> 01:33:36,832
jump on the ground or if they see a litter as they're passing by maybe you know bend down and pick it up.

1283
01:33:36,832 --> 01:33:41,712
That's also a good exercise and it also helps the environment as well so

1284
01:33:41,712 --> 01:33:47,952
more on that after Thursday so I'm really excited not only to be at the current apple

1285
01:33:55,471 --> 01:34:04,391
I had the opportunity to go on the master builders' elected field trips.

1286
01:34:04,391 --> 01:34:09,271
I love these field trip, Mary Tommy Field trips, to see infrastructure, I'm there.

1287
01:34:09,271 --> 01:34:15,631
And so this was talking about two projects that are at ground level.

1288
01:34:15,631 --> 01:34:20,712
One is in pretty, it's in the infancy stage of the development.

1289
01:34:24,895 --> 01:34:30,895
affordability and how they have been struggling throughout this whole process to keep

1290
01:34:30,895 --> 01:34:37,376
the affordability as they move forward with the construction of these townhouses and all the

1291
01:34:49,087 --> 01:34:57,587
Survey that they have to do for the Native Americans, and so for example, one site had a level three of the

1292
01:34:57,587 --> 01:35:05,988
cultural, cultural awareness, so they had to dig within three feet of each other,

1293
01:35:09,024 --> 01:35:19,184
The bedrock was really close three to five feet down, but they had hundreds of these holes all over to ensure that there is not any Native American artifacts.

1294
01:35:19,184 --> 01:35:24,264
And then all the tribes that are impacted by it, sometimes it's seven,

1295
01:35:24,264 --> 01:35:31,463
sometimes there's more, we'll have to do a written statement of approval before that site could move forward with that.

1296
01:35:34,351 --> 01:35:44,112
House had to go through this process for the approval of state funding to get an HVAC system installed in their house.

1297
01:35:44,112 --> 01:35:48,712
They had, to give approval, of seven tribes for that one.

1298
01:35:48,712 --> 01:35:55,351
So all those things come, it exponentially

1299
01:35:55,351 --> 01:36:02,591
increases the cost of what we initially thought would be an affordable site.

1300
01:36:02,927 --> 01:36:09,967
And so at the very end, it may not be affordable housing that they're building might be market rate.

1301
01:36:09,967 --> 01:36:14,127
But hopefully, they are trying their best so

1302
01:36:14,127 --> 01:36:17,648
that we can have a great entry level home.

1303
01:36:17,648 --> 01:36:21,448
It more than likely will not remain affordable over time.

1304
01:36:21,448 --> 01:36:26,368
But at least they were hopefully trying to get into the housing market.

1305
01:36:27,775 --> 01:36:31,576
The house is in the low 400s, but

1306
01:36:31,576 --> 01:36:36,536
they're looking at the possibility that it might be in 500 or more.

1307
01:36:37,815 --> 01:36:44,015
So hearing those struggles is kind of disheartening,

1308
01:36:44,015 --> 01:36:49,655
especially when we're talking about shape and homelessness as well.

1309
01:36:50,224 --> 01:36:58,224
And I want to give a shout out to our Trader Joe's because at the Master Builders the CEO Gretchen

1310
01:36:58,224 --> 01:37:03,224
said if you have a Trader's Joe in your city.

1311
01:37:03,488 --> 01:37:08,648
You are like five star because they are so hard to get.

1312
01:37:08,648 --> 01:37:12,488
They look at all kinds of different criterias and factors in it.

1313
01:37:12,488 --> 01:37:16,207
So don't take our Trader Joe's lightly.

1314
01:37:16,207 --> 01:37:19,648
And they have now one of the best stores, I believe, in the Northwest.

1315
01:37:19,648 --> 01:37:29,047
So we should be exceptionally proud of that metal of honor that we're wearing.

1316
01:37:32,032 --> 01:37:40,311
So, moving in the park, I'm not going to duplicate some of the amazing comments my fellow colleagues made.

1317
01:37:40,311 --> 01:37:48,351
But I want to give kudos to Mayor Fleming for his opening remarks that just set the stage of why we're there for the 250th and

1318
01:37:48,351 --> 01:37:56,712
what freedom really means and celebrating a very young city as well on their anniversary of.

1319
01:37:57,264 --> 01:38:05,583
the first Saturday of August, and also the additional honor of celebrating our nation's 250th.

1320
01:38:08,944 --> 01:38:13,944
And then the council rules ad hoc committee met.

1321
01:38:13,944 --> 01:38:17,703
And I am so excited to be part of that committee.

1322
01:38:17,703 --> 01:38:19,703
It is.

1323
01:38:19,887 --> 01:38:32,887
You get down and a lot of data and research and comparison analysis and the council members there are so thoughtful with with really intricate

1324
01:38:33,391 --> 01:38:40,671
questions so that we are looking at designing maybe an ethical guideline,

1325
01:38:40,671 --> 01:38:45,952
counsel's direction to encourage respectful behavior, possible actions,

1326
01:38:45,952 --> 01:38:53,752
policies and procedures that were missing and much, yeah, we didn't need it, but you know.

1327
01:38:54,159 --> 01:38:59,840
Just in case we would have it there, it's like a safety net for fellow council members and

1328
01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:06,720
councils coming into the future, not only the council member's on this dias.

1329
01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:12,159
And so it is a reflection and also a much needed improvement.

1330
01:39:12,159 --> 01:39:17,640
And thank you to our city attorney Matt Caser, leading the way and

1331
01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:23,039
keeping everybody in check and adding some good things to it as well.

1332
01:39:23,471 --> 01:39:29,952
This Saturday at 4 p.m. in our atrium, dance theater Northwest.

1333
01:39:29,952 --> 01:39:39,712
Showcase, if you have never seen one of their performances led by the creative director, Melanie Kristoffer, a highly recommended.

1334
01:39:39,712 --> 01:39:43,712
It's a little mini Broadway production in her atrial.

1335
01:39:45,631 --> 01:39:49,551
And also a reminder that Pierce County Conservation will have their work day.

1336
01:39:49,551 --> 01:39:51,952
Once again, I believe this is a third or fourth one.

1337
01:39:53,423 --> 01:40:01,423
From 10 to 12, they're working on getting rid of the invasive species.

1338
01:40:01,423 --> 01:40:14,423
And also encouraging natives and doing some other wonderful conservation works within our own city park that is dedicated to birds.

1339
01:40:14,423 --> 01:40:18,264
And with that, I will, you know, relinquish my form.

1340
01:40:18,264 --> 01:40:18,944
Thanks.

1341
01:40:22,463 --> 01:40:29,583
I'm going to reiterate some things because I think they're really important to highlight

1342
01:40:29,583 --> 01:40:36,623
here tonight and I'll start out with the 31st birthday and the 250th celebration and

1343
01:40:36,623 --> 01:40:43,503
to Steve Sugg, our city manager, the staff hit that one out of the park.

1344
01:40:43,503 --> 01:40:50,583
It was hands down, I'd think one of best put together, best orchestrated,

1345
01:40:52,239 --> 01:40:55,840
events that I think I've seen in the city in a long time.

1346
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:59,880
The feedback from the citizens was incredible.

1347
01:40:59,880 --> 01:41:03,640
And I don't recall ever seeing certain part packed,

1348
01:41:03,640 --> 01:41:06,260
like it was packed for that event.

1349
01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:12,520
I know the giveaways the City Council members had

1350
01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:15,359
were amazing, everyone loved them.

1351
01:41:15,359 --> 01:41:18,199
I loved watching the council members with their hats.

1352
01:41:18,256 --> 01:41:25,216
We're going about the crowd there, but it was just, it's in every way imaginable.

1353
01:41:25,216 --> 01:41:26,695
It was fantastic.

1354
01:41:26,695 --> 01:41:27,695
It's so great.

1355
01:41:27,695 --> 01:41:33,775
I think we ought to do it again next year, and year after year and build on that.

1356
01:41:33,775 --> 01:41:36,136
The citizens loved it.

1357
01:41:36,136 --> 01:41:40,855
I can't recall a time when you see so many people dancing and so

1358
01:41:40,855 --> 01:41:43,576
many interacting and engaging.

1359
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:51,239
Phenomenal the only thing I would say is we got to work on the parking but short of that it was it. Was great

1360
01:41:51,775 --> 01:41:58,256
I also just want to highlight for citizens that are watching or listening tomorrow big big

1361
01:41:58,256 --> 01:42:03,456
night in the city for a national night out I believe we're going to be out visiting roughly

1362
01:42:03,456 --> 01:42:11,615
32 communities or 40 45 45 communities largest ever and certainly I think it's the largest

1363
01:42:15,887 --> 01:42:23,847
And then again on Wednesday evening, the music on the plaza here at the city hall,

1364
01:42:23,847 --> 01:42:27,688
I think is something great to be looking forward to on that.

1365
01:42:27,688 --> 01:42:34,528
So just want to let citizens know there's so many great things going on here in our community,

1366
01:42:34,528 --> 01:42:36,728
and there is nothing for everyone.

1367
01:42:37,359 --> 01:42:41,800
To the Mayor for Kim, thanks for mentioning clean up in UP.

1368
01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:46,119
This is our community, it's not the dump.

1369
01:42:46,119 --> 01:42:50,720
And I can tell you for the times that I have participated in cleaning up and

1370
01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:55,640
walking our streets and you look at how much garbage is along the sides of our roads.

1371
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:58,199
I think we as a community can do better.

1372
01:42:58,199 --> 01:43:05,279
And so I applaud what y'all are putting together with rotary to make that happen and ongoing.

1373
01:43:05,872 --> 01:43:07,712
So those are kind of the biggies.

1374
01:43:07,712 --> 01:43:14,231
I do want to let council know I did attend the Puget Sound Regional Council meeting just a couple of highlights from that.

1375
01:43:14,231 --> 01:43:20,471
They voted on admitting Port Gamble's Clam Tribe as a member to the

1376
01:43:20,471 --> 01:43:27,712
Pugets Sound regional council and they also approved over $22 million of transportation funding for

1377
01:43:32,399 --> 01:43:36,960
And with that said, I think we can close

1378
01:43:37,536 --> 01:43:43,195
Our reports for tonight and then move on if you will into study session

1379
01:43:43,195 --> 01:43:50,935
We're going to recess to there right now and we'll continue with item number 10, which is our six-year transportation improvement plan

1380
01:43:52,416 --> 01:43:55,576
Mr. Eclin public works director, you know

1381
01:43:55,576 --> 01:44:01,176
I'm the agenda tonight to elicit you as our public Works manager as well as or public Work's director

1382
01:44:01,176 --> 01:44:05,376
So you can tell us which one it is and what's the difference there, but Jack you're on

1383
01:44:06,847 --> 01:44:07,847
Okay.

1384
01:44:07,847 --> 01:44:08,847
All right.

1385
01:44:08,847 --> 01:44:09,847
Thank you.

1386
01:44:09,847 --> 01:44:10,847
All in all.

1387
01:44:10,847 --> 01:44:11,847
All rights reserved.

1388
01:44:11,847 --> 01:44:12,847
Thank You.

1389
01:44:12,847 --> 01:44:13,847
All Right.

1390
01:44:13,847 --> 01:44:14,847
All.

1391
01:44:14,847 --> 01:44:15,847
All, all rights.

1392
01:44:15,847 --> 01:44:17,847
All the rights are reserved for all of us.

1393
01:44:17,847 --> 01:44:19,847
All of our rights, as well.

1394
01:44:19,847 --> 01:44:21,847
All all right, thank you so much.

1395
01:44:21,847 --> 01:44:23,847
All thanks for joining us today.

1396
01:44:23,847 --> 01:44:24,847
I appreciate it.

1397
01:44:24,847 --> 01:44:25,847
Thank y'all.

1398
01:44:25,847 --> 01:44:26,847
Thanks for watching.

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01:44:26,847 --> 01:44:27,847
I'll see you in the next video.

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Bye.

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Bye, bye.

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Bye!

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Bye-bye.

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01:44:31,847 --> 01:44:32,847
Bye bye!

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01:44:32,847 --> 01:44:33,847
Bye...

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Bye....

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01:44:09,391 --> 01:44:17,391
I am the public director, I'm not sure what the manager would be, but I wear enough hats, it's probably the same thing, so it was probably fine.

1408
01:44:17,391 --> 01:44:20,391
So, thank you Mr. Mayor and City Council.

1409
01:44:20,391 --> 01:44:29,391
As we mentioned, Jack Ecklund, Public Works Director, and tonight I bring to you for study our annual update for a six-year transportation improvement plan.

1410
01:44:29,391 --> 01:44:35,391
I would like to direct to in your council packets a copy of the spreadsheet indicating all of

1411
01:44:38,992 --> 01:44:42,112
and estimate costs of each of those.

1412
01:44:42,112 --> 01:44:48,311
We also have in your packet an updated town center grid map plan.

1413
01:44:48,311 --> 01:44:55,152
This one we have updated in a way that to show our current planning to reflect what those projects that are on the tip.

1414
01:44:55,152 --> 01:45:02,311
But then also we've added in green, you can see and highlighted, the portions of that grid that have been completed.

1415
01:45:02,311 --> 01:45:08,271
And it shows that we haven't done quite a bit, but it also gives the full picture of what we're trying to accomplish with the.

1416
01:45:08,207 --> 01:45:09,207
a grid plan.

1417
01:45:09,408 --> 01:45:19,068
So now the six year, the City of Interplace is required every year to annually update this six-year plan by state law.

1418
01:45:19,068 --> 01:45:25,608
This current plan covers the years 2027 to 2032.

1419
01:45:25,608 --> 01:45:38,408
The primary changes in this year's plan is we have removed the UP School Crosswalk Improvement Project because that one's currently underway and will shortly be completed.

1420
01:45:38,703 --> 01:45:42,944
That's always a good feeling when we're checking one off the list.

1421
01:45:42,944 --> 01:45:52,503
We also have updated the status of the Chambers Creek Road Roundabout project in which we receive the additional federal appropriation of $300,000.

1422
01:45:52,503 --> 01:45:55,503
Thanks to the efforts of.

1423
01:45:56,832 --> 01:46:00,551
Representative Strickland and her folks.

1424
01:46:00,551 --> 01:46:09,032
And then we have the schedule for the right away acquisition associated with the Drexler Drive South project.

1425
01:46:09,032 --> 01:46:14,752
And that's one of the projects that is on that town center grid map that I mentioned.

1426
01:46:14,752 --> 01:46:22,231
That has been updated and elevated due to priorities to be changed up to 2027.

1427
01:46:26,416 --> 01:46:27,975
projects on the list.

1428
01:46:27,975 --> 01:46:30,176
Now, I do want to remind you that approval

1429
01:46:30,176 --> 01:46:32,336
of the six-year transportation improvement plan

1430
01:46:32,336 --> 01:46:35,456
does not commit the city to any financial expenditures,

1431
01:46:35,456 --> 01:46:38,296
but rather each project will be reviewed

1432
01:46:38,296 --> 01:46:40,895
and individually by the City Council

1433
01:46:40,895 --> 01:46:43,376
in each relevant budget cycle as a component

1434
01:46:43,376 --> 01:46:47,695
of The Adopted Budget and CIP or capital improvement

1435
01:46:47,695 --> 01:46:50,815
plan, but the approval of this six year plan

1436
01:46:50,815 --> 01:46:53,456
does provide an indication to our neighbors

1437
01:46:55,631 --> 01:47:00,912
transportation planning needs and also creates eligibility for us in various grant opportunities there

1438
01:47:01,792 --> 01:47:09,271
Most grants especially transportation grants require specific projects to be noted on our adopted six-year plan

1439
01:47:09,631 --> 01:47:14,231
So with that that concludes my report and I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have

1440
01:47:14,863 --> 01:47:22,144
Jack, I have just one I used to sit on the committee at the county when we looked at funding for various

1441
01:47:23,184 --> 01:47:26,783
Transportation programs and in that committee we would prioritize

1442
01:47:27,184 --> 01:47:32,384
You know how we wouldn't support those and fund those I was looking at your list here

1443
01:47:32,384 --> 01:47:34,384
And I don't see a prioritization

1444
01:47:34,863 --> 01:47:41,304
And that can you explain that or yeah help us understand that better so that's that an intentional

1445
01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:47,199
aspect of our our tip because nowadays just with the nature of funding.

1446
01:47:48,760 --> 01:47:56,119
You know, a lot of time the priority becomes which where we can get the money from.

1447
01:47:56,119 --> 01:47:59,039
So ultimately we have many needs.

1448
01:47:59,039 --> 01:48:06,800
Now some are more significant than others, but we don't want to imply

1449
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:10,079
that something is less important when we're applying for a grant or something

1450
01:48:11,984 --> 01:48:14,543
put us in a bad position or a less favored position.

1451
01:48:14,543 --> 01:48:19,703
So, these aren't particularly, they arenít prioritized in any given fashion and

1452
01:48:19,703 --> 01:48:24,904
really just, we want to strike the iron when the fire is hot and

1453
01:48:24,904 --> 01:48:27,463
make sure we can take advantage where we cannot.

1454
01:48:27,463 --> 01:48:31,863
Iím much appreciated and I, you know, again looking over the list I really

1455
01:48:31,863 --> 01:48:37,543
agree that these are all major significant improvements for the city overall.

1456
01:48:38,015 --> 01:48:42,855
I knew and I've had multiple conversations, so I'll put that plug in one more time.

1457
01:48:42,855 --> 01:48:47,895
When we have roads that are majorly failing, we need to look at how we're going to support those.

1458
01:48:47,895 --> 01:48:53,655
I see the day island spit road on here, I would sure love to keep that one high visibility,

1459
01:48:53,655 --> 01:48:59,615
keep it high on the list as we get funding to get that road repaired before we lose it.

1460
01:49:00,159 --> 01:49:06,500
Yeah, and then one thing that we have spoken about in the past two on that project right now it does show the

1461
01:49:07,659 --> 01:49:09,180
Kind of the ultimate

1462
01:49:09,180 --> 01:49:11,500
You know it would hopefully need a road rebuild

1463
01:49:11,659 --> 01:49:17,899
But you also because any kind of you could include interim improvements as part of that projects as well

1464
01:49:17,899 --> 01:49:19,899
So the fact that's on the list

1465
01:49:20,380 --> 01:49:25,380
Showing the the bigger project doesn't preclude us from also doing incremental improvements, as?

1466
01:49:25,380 --> 01:49:28,819
Well, okay, great. Thank you so much any questions for

1467
01:49:29,456 --> 01:49:31,136
Thank you, Councilman Grassi.

1468
01:49:31,136 --> 01:49:33,055
Thank You Mayor, thank you Mr. Eklund for being here.

1469
01:49:33,055 --> 01:49:36,475
Just a question slash comment as well.

1470
01:49:36,475 --> 01:49:41,216
When I'm looking at our 44th Street Project,

1471
01:49:41,216 --> 01:49:44,336
67th to Alameda, eventually the Regents.

1472
01:49:44,528 --> 01:49:48,927
boulevard project and work a lot with our counterparts

1473
01:49:48,927 --> 01:49:52,568
over at Furcrest and for funding requests together and all of that.

1474
01:49:52,568 --> 01:49:56,847
I think historically we used to have a regularly scheduled meeting

1475
01:49:56,847 --> 01:49:58,007
with FurCrest.

1476
01:49:58,007 --> 01:50:00,568
Did we not at one point in cityhood?

1477
01:50:00,568 --> 01:50:04,568
I would just love to see us consider in light of these projects

1478
01:50:04,568 --> 01:50:05,688
and other things.

1479
01:50:05,688 --> 01:50:08,368
We're considering putting that back on the annual schedule.

1480
01:50:08,368 --> 01:50:10,087
I believe it could be very helpful as we're looking

1481
01:50:10,087 --> 01:50:12,007
at these project that we want to do together.

1482
01:50:13,807 --> 01:50:19,927
If my counterparts over at that city may be thinking some of these projects are farther down the line than what I realize they are.

1483
01:50:19,927 --> 01:50:27,568
And vice versa, so if we're doing, if were pulling our request, funding, all of that, it might be worth considering going back to that.

1484
01:50:27,568 --> 01:50:36,608
Yeah, I think your points will take in, and we've had some conversations with the city manager over there about perhaps having a joint meeting where we can put our heads together on some

1485
01:50:36,608 --> 01:50:37,688
of those things.

1486
01:50:37,688 --> 01:50:39,007
So, what's that?

1487
01:50:39,007 --> 01:50:41,007
Thank you, thank you for the report.

1488
01:50:43,247 --> 01:50:51,547
Thank you mayor do you yeah, do we have full funding for the chambers Creek around about or are we there's something missing?

1489
01:50:51,547 --> 01:50:57,707
We we cur yeah we do have a full-funding for it. It has a combination of we had two separate federal appropriations

1490
01:50:58,427 --> 01:51:03,247
Those total 800,000 themselves. We have eight hundred thousand dollars of

1491
01:51:04,068 --> 01:51:08,087
construction funding from federal highway administration in addition we

1492
01:51:09,823 --> 01:51:14,783
I believe it's $200,000 of design money from FHWA.

1493
01:51:14,783 --> 01:51:22,663
Both of the FHA projects were administered through PSRC and then helped me watch that.

1494
01:51:22,663 --> 01:51:31,144
And then in addition, we have about 400,00 in traffic impact fee funds that are contributing to the overall project.

1495
01:51:36,207 --> 01:51:42,127
Not all the funding, although the fundings been awarded, it is only available in certain years.

1496
01:51:42,127 --> 01:51:47,648
And so likely that's going to be a 2028 project based on when we would have the funds available.

1497
01:51:47,648 --> 01:51:52,488
But it's, from capital projects, that still pretty close.

1498
01:51:52,488 --> 01:51:56,887
So it it exciting that that one is very close to getting to the finish lines.

1499
01:51:56,887 --> 01:51:59,688
Yeah, That is especially exciting for that woman.

1500
01:51:59,688 --> 01:52:02,688
Did Pierce County.

1501
01:52:05,087 --> 01:52:13,007
Allow us to have some other easements so that we could complete the the roundabout as we had designed it

1502
01:52:14,488 --> 01:52:18,927
That has not been executed yes yet, but both staff and the

1503
01:52:19,887 --> 01:52:21,207
our

1504
01:52:21,207 --> 01:52:28,927
Council council memory. I all have indicated that that's something the county is moving forward. They're supportive of it and

1505
01:52:30,591 --> 01:52:35,471
They should be getting, we're anticipating a schedule of that hopefully pretty soon.

1506
01:52:35,471 --> 01:52:41,351
So that's we keep pushing that and it's not necessarily the highest priority for the county.

1507
01:52:41,351 --> 01:52:48,631
They have a lot of things going on, but it is something we continue to chase and they are very, they've indicated they're very supportive of it.

1508
01:52:48,631 --> 01:52:53,431
Right, is there any movement on the Chambers Creek Bridge with partnership with Pierce County?

1509
01:52:53,984 --> 01:53:00,984
Right now, the county is still working on refine the designs, and then it's a pretty,

1510
01:53:00,984 --> 01:53:03,984
there's with the bridge,

1511
01:53:03,984 --> 01:53:08,083
and you have the dam that's also being looked at, you know, kind of removal of the

1512
01:53:08,083 --> 01:53:10,543
dam and re-alignment of

1513
01:53:10,543 --> 01:53:12,823
the creek and channel, so it is a

1514
01:53:12,823 --> 01:53:14,623
pretty significant project,

1515
01:53:14,623 --> 01:53:19,384
and the County is taking the lead on exploring funding options for that.

1516
01:53:21,456 --> 01:53:26,395
We've indicated to them that we are, you know, we're interested in being a partner with that

1517
01:53:26,395 --> 01:53:31,796
You know obviously when it comes to money and what kind of match we'd have to be notified early

1518
01:53:31,796 --> 01:53:34,195
And if you don't we can commit to any of that, but

1519
01:53:35,036 --> 01:53:36,555
we

1520
01:53:36,555 --> 01:53:42,036
Definitely want to make sure the communications there and and we often remind them

1521
01:53:42,036 --> 01:53:48,336
That you no we were we here to support them. How are we kept? Mm-hmm. All right. Thank you. Am I in my last?

1522
01:53:49,328 --> 01:54:10,328
Question or comment, is that, I noticed that in the tip there are some streets that do not have the cooling options like you have streets, sidewalks, gutters, but there isn't any landscaping, so looking at the

1523
01:54:16,623 --> 01:54:22,623
Concrete curb, gutters, sidewalks and bike lanes, that there's some landscaping and also

1524
01:54:24,863 --> 01:54:32,224
looking at the lighting so that, there is a safe corridor for traveling at dusk and at night.

1525
01:54:32,224 --> 01:54:36,064
So some of these do not have lighting as well.

1526
01:54:36,064 --> 01:54:39,104
So I know it's always a function of funding.

1527
01:54:39,104 --> 01:54:45,743
So, I'd rather have these done and then, but kind of think about how we can might

1528
01:54:46,256 --> 01:54:55,855
how we might augment, so that we're creating the cooling islands and also the lights.

1529
01:54:55,855 --> 01:55:01,855
Yeah, and just to note, you know, they're very, the description are very brief.

1530
01:55:06,671 --> 01:55:13,832
It doesn't necessarily preclude us from adding those if we, depending on what the opportunity or what an individual project is.

1531
01:55:13,832 --> 01:55:18,832
So, if, you know, just taking, for example, Chambers Creek Road Phase 2,

1532
01:55:18,832 --> 01:55:26,112
it does just list, curb, gutter, sidewalk, bike lane, both sides, intersection improvements, and crossings.

1533
01:55:26,112 --> 01:55:32,192
So that wouldn't preclude if it needed to, as part of the project,

1534
01:55:32,192 --> 01:55:35,872
to add a median or fit in a planorship where we need to.

1535
01:55:36,271 --> 01:55:45,952
be as far as, say, a grant agency looks at, those would be like auxiliary to a sidewalk or something.

1536
01:55:45,952 --> 01:55:53,192
So we have that ability to still supplement the different improvements depending on what the financing source is.

1537
01:55:54,231 --> 01:55:57,072
Right, and look at the best fit to do that and

1538
01:55:57,072 --> 01:56:03,591
also look out the northwest and eastern part of our city that we

1539
01:56:03,760 --> 01:56:07,560
You need to augment with more more trees and vegetation and

1540
01:56:08,399 --> 01:56:14,239
To complement what we look like in the south southeastern west. Yep, that's right. All right, thank you

1541
01:56:15,520 --> 01:56:16,880
Thank you

1542
01:56:16,880 --> 01:56:21,000
Councilor Boykin. Oh, Thank You mayor. Hey Jack if I could ask you please

1543
01:56:21,600 --> 01:56:27,199
Obviously we're required by our state law to adopt annually the six year transportation improvement plan

1544
01:56:27,199 --> 01:56:29,399
But interestingly enough you had made reference to

1545
01:56:30,095 --> 01:56:48,095
Now the mayor's question around prioritization, and it always had been a little squishy, but certainly in the past it's been far more pragmatic when we came to how we decide what projects that we were going to internally prioritize, even if we

1546
01:56:48,095 --> 01:56:54,095
were obviously looking for best case scenarios, connect grant funding with opportunity.

1547
01:56:57,328 --> 01:57:05,768
Federal funding formula changes, we've got, at the federal level, clear behavior to suggest it.

1548
01:57:05,768 --> 01:57:13,328
Not only we need to figure out what to do with last, but there is potentially less funding coming to states.

1549
01:57:13,328 --> 01:57:16,967
It's changing our engagement, to say the least.

1550
01:57:16,967 --> 01:57:22,448
Could you expound upon how you anticipate how we might look internally about what we

1551
01:57:27,264 --> 01:57:31,264
Next iteration of six-year transportation improvement planning.

1552
01:57:31,615 --> 01:57:37,695
Yeah, and it really is just because how funding keeps shrinking and becoming more and more competitive

1553
01:57:37,895 --> 01:57:40,855
It really will go to each individual

1554
01:57:41,496 --> 01:57:42,855
funding program

1555
01:57:42,855 --> 01:57:47,456
What we would have the best chance to be successful with now typically?

1556
01:57:47,935 --> 01:57:51,935
most programs will look at things that are also important to us so like

1557
01:57:52,615 --> 01:57:55,815
Streets that have high accent locations or streets that our

1558
01:57:56,695 --> 01:57:57,895
You know

1559
01:58:01,199 --> 01:58:14,199
rate quite high, but then other programs will maybe have a very high priority on, say there's a safe route to school program that we were successful with, and that's why we now have every one of our schools.

1560
01:58:14,224 --> 01:58:16,304
connected to the sidewalk network.

1561
01:58:16,304 --> 01:58:19,224
And so, and those may not always be, in fact, thankfully or not

1562
01:58:19,224 --> 01:58:21,503
on the highest busiest streets with the

1563
01:58:21,503 --> 01:58:23,144
highest acts on locations.

1564
01:58:23,144 --> 01:58:25,944
But, so each one, we really have to cater it

1565
01:58:25,944 --> 01:58:27,944
to what the individual grant need is,

1566
01:58:27,944 --> 01:58:30,224
but then once within those grants,

1567
01:58:30,224 --> 01:58:33,344
then we typically will prioritize those based on

1568
01:58:33,855 --> 01:58:39,416
Accident locations, public comments, those sort of things.

1569
01:58:39,416 --> 01:58:47,015
So it's kind of like a sub-set prioritization with each, depending on the funding source.

1570
01:58:47,015 --> 01:58:48,296
Okay, thank you, I appreciate it.

1571
01:58:48,296 --> 01:58:50,456
I'm good.

1572
01:58:50,456 --> 01:58:51,456
Thank you.

1573
01:58:51,456 --> 01:58:52,456
Councillor Wood.

1574
01:58:52,456 --> 01:58:53,456
Thank You Mayor.

1575
01:58:53,456 --> 01:58:58,855
Just a quick question for you on The Matrix here, you have the cost by face.

1576
01:58:59,551 --> 01:59:06,192
And I'm just curious, since this is a six-year plan, how often are those costs updated as far as on this matrix?

1577
01:59:06,192 --> 01:59:10,152
I know year to year they increase quite a bit, I just want to make sure.

1578
01:59:10,152 --> 01:59:16,952
So typically, well, every year, although some years we had no income.

1579
01:59:16,912 --> 01:59:23,311
increases depending on how the costs are but like so like this year I'll all I go through each project individually and

1580
01:59:23,992 --> 01:59:27,572
both update what the estimated costs our and the

1581
01:59:28,671 --> 01:59:32,231
The schedules when we think we could do them now it is

1582
01:59:33,039 --> 01:59:36,239
This is a very planning, it's a planning level estimate.

1583
01:59:36,239 --> 01:59:43,039
It's not a detailed engineer's estimate, so it is more based on typically there's,

1584
01:59:43,039 --> 01:59:48,600
for the certain nature of project, we typically spend this much per half a mile or this and that.

1585
01:59:48,600 --> 01:59:52,680
So as we would get closer to say an individual application.

1586
01:59:52,912 --> 01:59:59,271
These numbers don't really, like we're not held to those numbers if then a grant comes up and we are applying for it.

1587
01:59:59,271 --> 02:00:03,992
Then we do the detailed cost estimate and it could be more or less than what's shown here.

1588
02:00:03,992 --> 02:00:06,912
This is really the intent to just give the rough order of magnitude.

1589
02:00:08,072 --> 02:00:09,631
Got it, thank you very much.

1590
02:00:09,631 --> 02:00:13,872
Great, Thank you, very, much, are there any other questions or comments?

1591
02:00:13,872 --> 02:00:16,431
Okay, seeing that there's none, Jack, thanks you for that update.

1592
02:00:16,768 --> 02:00:21,768
I look forward to seeing some of those projects come to fruition as we move forward.

1593
02:00:21,768 --> 02:00:27,768
Just transitioning since you're there, let's go to item number 11, our arterial update ordinance.

1594
02:00:27,768 --> 02:00:29,768
Jack, you are still on.

1595
02:00:29,768 --> 02:00:30,768
Yep, thanks again.

1596
02:00:30,768 --> 02:00:33,768
Again, I'm Jack Ecklund, Public Works Director.

1597
02:00:33,768 --> 02:00:38,768
And so what we have before us is a cleanup.

1598
02:00:39,408 --> 02:00:46,207
Item for our municipal codes, so in regard to the classification of several arterial streets.

1599
02:00:47,568 --> 02:00:52,768
Now typically, the classification arterials streets is a two step process.

1600
02:00:52,768 --> 02:00:59,247
You need to get them both adopted locally in your own ordinances and regulations.

1601
02:00:59,247 --> 02:01:06,167
But also to be eligible for state or federal money, you need have them classified from a fed on the federal.

1602
02:01:06,992 --> 02:01:11,292
classification system, which is actually maintained by the state.

1603
02:01:11,292 --> 02:01:13,872
Now, fortunately for these ones that we're talking about here,

1604
02:01:13,872 --> 02:01:15,492
the hard part's already been done.

1605
02:01:15,492 --> 02:01:18,712
Several years ago, we already got them approved,

1606
02:01:18,712 --> 02:01:21,952
and they're already on the federal classification map.

1607
02:01:21,952 --> 02:01:22,952
Unfortunately,

1608
02:01:22,952 --> 02:01:26,311
we just noticed recently that that follow-up action

1609
02:01:26,311 --> 02:01:29,072
of getting them adopted on our own plan,

1610
02:01:29,072 --> 02:01:31,192
for whatever reason, must have fallen through the cracks.

1611
02:01:31,192 --> 02:01:36,192
So this action is to just kind of rectify that.

1612
02:01:36,271 --> 02:01:45,152
close the loop, so to speak, the streets that are associated with this is 24th Street between

1613
02:01:45,152 --> 02:01:49,152
Regents and 70th, and these are all minor, none of these

1614
02:01:49,152 --> 02:01:55,511
are major arterials, these were all the lower-level collector level arterial, which is generally

1615
02:01:55,511 --> 02:02:01,832
the lowest designation of an arterio street, it's your local street network and then you

1616
02:02:06,000 --> 02:02:13,600
So 24th Street, that's that street that there's a lot of industrial some warehouses some businesses it goes kind of on the side of the

1617
02:02:14,000 --> 02:02:16,000
Oh

1618
02:02:17,000 --> 02:02:19,000
Yeah, yeah, where the

1619
02:02:20,336 --> 02:02:24,195
Narrows Plaza overall complex was all the way down to Regents

1620
02:02:24,935 --> 02:02:26,935
There is a bus route on that street

1621
02:02:26,935 --> 02:02:34,576
So that that's one that we are would be adopting it locally. We also have 37th Street between Bridgeport and sunset

1622
02:02:35,136 --> 02:02:40,576
So basically bridgeport all of the weight, you know, this 37 Street just across the street going all The way

1623
02:02:41,136 --> 02:02:46,176
Through that. Um, we do indicate to sunset. That's how it's been adopted

1624
02:02:46,935 --> 02:02:49,475
on the federal list currently on our

1625
02:02:49,648 --> 02:02:57,648
PIP, we only have the portion from Bridgeport to the end of where the current road is as a

1626
02:02:57,952 --> 02:03:02,832
plan, you know, eventual improvement, the section that is an unopened road right now is

1627
02:03:02,832 --> 02:03:07,712
only noted as a pedestrian connection. Doesn't mean that we wouldn't in the future still turn

1628
02:03:07,712 --> 02:03:12,912
it into a roadway, but that was due to some concerns expressed from neighbors several years ago.

1629
02:03:14,112 --> 02:03:20,591
And the overall priority was to, that's a big block of roadway without a lot of pedestrian

1630
02:03:20,591 --> 02:03:26,752
connection through there. So there was a priority to emphasize the pedestrian

1631
02:03:27,311 --> 02:03:32,832
over the roadway in that area, but we still want to make ourselves consistent with what

1632
02:03:32,832 --> 02:03:35,952
we have in the federal list.

1633
02:03:35,952 --> 02:03:42,072
Then we do have a Drexler Drive right here between 35th and 40th, and then Larson Lane

1634
02:03:42,072 --> 02:03:50,231
between 30th in marketplace as well as marketplace out here in front of the building.

1635
02:03:50,231 --> 02:03:54,872
And then, so those are the streets, now a number of those, the reason that fell through

1636
02:03:57,520 --> 02:04:01,640
We like the Drexler in the market and and some of the other ones were adopted in

1637
02:04:01,640 --> 02:04:07,039
the federal register to be able to get the funding to build the streets, but then

1638
02:04:07,039 --> 02:04:10,840
we didn't classify them as arterials ourselves until after they were, I mean

1639
02:04:10,840 --> 02:04:12,880
the plan would have been until, after, they've been built.

1640
02:04:12,880 --> 02:04:17,039
So like, for example, the section of Dxler that we talked about in

1641
02:04:17,039 --> 02:04:22,079
the TIP where we're elevating the right-of-way acquisition, we have noted

1642
02:04:25,296 --> 02:04:30,735
As a future arterial street, but we're not adopting that ourselves until we would build the street

1643
02:04:31,576 --> 02:04:34,416
So it's a little bit of chicken egg on on some of that stuff

1644
02:04:34,416 --> 02:04:37,935
But so those are the streets that are involved and then you can see

1645
02:04:38,416 --> 02:04:42,376
What the action that will be coming back so there's this study right now, of course

1646
02:04:42,376 --> 02:04:44,376
But when we come back

1647
02:04:43,920 --> 02:04:59,399
The action would be to adopt an ordinance that modifies section 13, 20.15 of the municipal code and that's the table that lists all our various arterial streets and they'll just add those streets with the limits that we're adding.

1648
02:05:02,640 --> 02:05:04,640
We take it that pauses for questions

1649
02:05:06,239 --> 02:05:12,039
So I'm I know you and I talked about this once before also and i don't want to lose visibility on it

1650
02:05:12,520 --> 02:05:16,640
Because it's important to the city under secondary materials

1651
02:05:16,920 --> 02:05:23,600
Where we list chambers creek road west from stilcom city limits to bridge portway as a secondary arterial?

1652
02:05:25,039 --> 02:05:29,399
From the stolcom City limits too the old lemons beach road ie

1653
02:05:30,832 --> 02:05:36,112
extension of Chambers Creek Road, i.e. the beginning of Grandview.

1654
02:05:36,112 --> 02:05:39,112
That is a designated state highway.

1655
02:05:39,112 --> 02:05:43,792
So why would we continue to list this as a secondary arterial?

1656
02:05:46,712 --> 02:05:49,032
Because that's a separate designation.

1657
02:05:49,032 --> 02:05:49,712
And so like.

1658
02:05:51,279 --> 02:05:57,960
So they still can be they can they aren't mutually exclusive of each other so the volume and the

1659
02:05:58,640 --> 02:06:05,279
nature of the street indicates it's it more appropriate to classify it as a secondary material however the

1660
02:06:06,015 --> 02:06:12,376
It doesn't diminish its significance for a regional route because it is a significant regional

1661
02:06:12,376 --> 02:06:15,336
Route, it's one of the only routes that connect

1662
02:06:15,855 --> 02:06:23,536
UP and still come or the it a direct route to the Army so it still an important route from a standpoint from the highway and

1663
02:06:23,775 --> 02:06:28,576
Still opens up various opportunities for us from that standpoint, but it also

1664
02:06:30,608 --> 02:06:36,207
The volumes are low enough that they don't warrant it being classified as a principal arterial

1665
02:06:36,927 --> 02:06:45,087
All right, but it doesn't by maintaining visibility on that it still allows us to have additional funding when needed

1666
02:06:45,768 --> 02:06:49,127
That you can get for a state highway that you cannot get

1667
02:06:49,247 --> 02:06:53,167
For a arteriole through a city so

1668
02:06:54,032 --> 02:06:59,872
Yes, kind of selfish to make sure that we keep all our doors open yes for the city and that

1669
02:06:59,872 --> 02:07:05,192
We have the opportunities when they come out for that type of funding. Yes. Correct. So

1670
02:07:05,671 --> 02:07:08,431
You know, maybe we designate that separately. I don't know

1671
02:07:08,431 --> 02:07:12,471
But yeah, some have some kind a footnote to it so we don t lose

1672
02:07:13,471 --> 02:07:20,471
Ability and we dont it's a separate action altogether. It's not at this because we do not have ultimately we

1673
02:07:20,471 --> 02:07:22,471
Don't have control like we can't designate

1674
02:07:23,536 --> 02:07:32,176
So we have no input or control over that, and so that's not something that we can address in our municipal code.

1675
02:07:32,176 --> 02:07:37,536
Similarly, like Bridgeport, for example, is also part of the National Highway Network.

1676
02:07:37,760 --> 02:07:40,800
because of its regional thing.

1677
02:07:40,800 --> 02:07:43,359
We don't necessarily have control of that.

1678
02:07:43,359 --> 02:07:44,960
So we don´t designate that here,

1679
02:07:44,960 --> 02:07:48,039
but to your point, we do make sure whenever

1680
02:07:48,039 --> 02:07:50,760
we get the updates from the state or the various things,

1681
02:07:50,760 --> 02:07:52,760
because sometimes they´ll ask for status updates

1682
02:07:52,760 --> 02:07:54,699
for any of these various roads,

1683
02:07:54,699 --> 02:07:57,960
we continue to lobby that that´s an important route

1684
02:07:57,960 --> 02:08:00,279
and should be maintained on those routes.

1685
02:08:00,279 --> 02:08:01,279
Now, you know,

1686
02:08:01,279 --> 02:08:03,920
we may not have the authority to designate

1687
02:08:03,920 --> 02:08:06,159
because it´S already designated.

1688
02:08:06,368 --> 02:08:19,368
But we do have the responsibility to maintain, and so when it comes to that, you know, funding, it's always nice to use OPM to fund that and have us do it.

1689
02:08:19,368 --> 02:08:21,368
And that's why that is important.

1690
02:08:30,640 --> 02:08:38,920
Which I think may be more possible, but we want to make sure that future folks always keep that in sight that we do have that as a designation.

1691
02:08:38,920 --> 02:08:42,760
And so I'll work with Matt, just to see if there is.

1692
02:08:42,760 --> 02:08:45,479
I don't know that this would be the appropriate place to do it,

1693
02:08:45,479 --> 02:08:52,399
but there might be another mechanism just make it sure it's on the forefront of our minds, so to speak.

1694
02:08:52,399 --> 02:08:53,720
Awesome, thank you.

1695
02:08:53,720 --> 02:08:55,720
Other questions? Council Member Wood.

1696
02:08:55,720 --> 02:08:56,319
Thank you, Mayor.

1697
02:08:56,591 --> 02:09:01,431
Just a quick one, when looking at this list, you have, of course, the major arterial and secondary arterials.

1698
02:09:01,431 --> 02:09:03,551
This is kind of a follow on to the mayor's question.

1699
02:09:05,832 --> 02:09:10,112
Is there a financial or grant or otherwise benefit for

1700
02:09:10,112 --> 02:09:15,032
something being on a major aterial versus being a secondary an arteriole versus a collector or something like that?

1701
02:09:15,032 --> 02:09:24,912
Yes, so generally it depends on the grant source and what the Grant is looking for.

1702
02:09:26,399 --> 02:09:33,000
As I mentioned most grants would require to be designated somehow now depending on the grant itself

1703
02:09:34,319 --> 02:09:39,640
You may get prioritization for a primary arterial with a lot of

1704
02:09:40,047 --> 02:09:44,047
Traffic on it, a lot of times those are your bigger grant sources

1705
02:09:44,047 --> 02:09:48,047
that are looking not only for the print materials, but also, you know,

1706
02:09:48,047 --> 02:09:51,047
traffic volumes, accidents, those sort of things.

1707
02:09:51,047 --> 02:09:56,047
Now, there are also grant resources that do it the reverse

1708
02:09:56,047 --> 02:09:59,047
where they actually prioritize, like a collector arterial.

1709
02:09:59,047 --> 02:10:00,047
Often,

1710
02:10:00,047 --> 02:10:04,047
those aren't grant source that focusing on the non-motorized

1711
02:10:04,047 --> 02:10:07,047
or transit type of improvement.

1712
02:10:09,328 --> 02:10:14,807
It's been kind of recognized that sometimes those collect materials and

1713
02:10:14,807 --> 02:10:22,368
they are spread around the city, they have more collectors than the principal anyway.

1714
02:10:22,368 --> 02:10:28,047
But they're a safer and more comfortable route for those more vulnerable users.

1715
02:10:28,047 --> 02:10:34,927
So the prioritization depends on the grant.

1716
02:10:35,503 --> 02:10:40,663
I can't say the secondary arterial is always in the middle, but I guess it could change,

1717
02:10:40,663 --> 02:10:41,663
but that's what I thought.

1718
02:10:41,663 --> 02:10:43,344
Okay, so follow-on to that really quick.

1719
02:10:43,344 --> 02:10:48,703
I'm looking specifically at 67th, you know, it's listed here as a secondary aeratorial,

1720
02:10:48,703 --> 02:10:52,863
yet it is actually the fastest, straightest way to pass through the city of UP.

1721
02:10:52,863 --> 02:10:56,423
Would there be any benefit for us, does he need that as major arterials, either to help

1722
02:10:56,423 --> 02:11:00,384
encourage it to become one, not all that traffic is going up and down bridge port if it doesn't

1723
02:11:04,992 --> 02:11:08,752
Yeah, it changes a little bit on our standards,

1724
02:11:08,752 --> 02:11:10,591
although most of our standard are the same

1725
02:11:10,591 --> 02:11:12,351
for secondary to principle.

1726
02:11:13,431 --> 02:11:16,192
We do have to pass and make sure we're meeting

1727
02:11:16,192 --> 02:11:17,891
kind of the general criteria for it.

1728
02:11:17,891 --> 02:11:18,792
Now it's not.

1729
02:11:19,471 --> 02:11:29,072
When I say general criteria, it's not like a strict level, but you have to be in the ballpark of what typically people designate as principal.

1730
02:11:29,072 --> 02:11:37,072
But we are this year, this fall, we will be going through and updating all of our traffic counts around.

1731
02:11:37,072 --> 02:11:43,152
And that's certainly something that we'll evaluate when we kind of look at the updated counts to see if any of

1732
02:11:43,152 --> 02:11:46,992
our streets should be reclassified to a higher level or so.

1733
02:11:49,136 --> 02:11:56,216
Okay, can we and I guess there's a chicken and egg question here if we would like to increase traffic counts in 67

1734
02:11:57,176 --> 02:12:02,256
Just so we take that that load off of Bridgeport if it's not necessary there is there a way to

1735
02:12:02,895 --> 02:12:06,775
Encourage that I mean because if the traffic count isn't there yet. We might want it to be there, you know

1736
02:12:07,256 --> 02:12:10,095
You follow my question. Yeah, it is tricky

1737
02:12:11,935 --> 02:12:14,655
You know typically traffic will

1738
02:12:16,336 --> 02:12:18,336
Follow the least

1739
02:12:20,144 --> 02:12:30,703
You know, as congestion builds on one street it just has this phenomenon that either people quit traveling or they do shift to other streets.

1740
02:12:30,703 --> 02:12:39,944
So it is difficult to control those patterns and ultimately Bridgeport is the most you know it has the reason it's so busy as it

1741
02:12:49,695 --> 02:12:57,695
most destinations. So, it is difficult to control that. I think making the streets

1742
02:12:57,695 --> 02:13:03,695
be able to continue to flow as well as we can and accommodate all users. Kind of helps everything.

1743
02:13:03,695 --> 02:13:10,695
But we have a decent, you know, when we talk about like the grid.

1744
02:13:10,975 --> 02:13:15,015
Our grids from Bridgeport to 67th are generally pretty good.

1745
02:13:15,015 --> 02:13:20,336
It's usually where we have the problem of our grid network is right in the heart of the city.

1746
02:13:20,336 --> 02:13:27,055
And kind of right around our commercial areas, if that makes sense.

1747
02:13:27,055 --> 02:13:28,256
Thank you, that's all there.

1748
02:13:28,256 --> 02:13:29,496
Okay, thank you very much.

1749
02:13:29,496 --> 02:13:31,576
Any other questions, comments?

1750
02:13:31,576 --> 02:13:32,416
Councilor Boykin.

1751
02:13:32,735 --> 02:13:37,735
Just a couple of weeks upon Jack's comments, you said it's concentrated really for

1752
02:13:37,735 --> 02:13:42,735
the most part in the right areas where we've got commercial engagement and up and down

1753
02:13:42,735 --> 02:13:43,735
Bridgeport.

1754
02:13:43,735 --> 02:13:49,735
I just thought I'd ask you to pull down a little question about the parking fees

1755
02:13:49,735 --> 02:13:50,735
impacts around that area.

1756
02:13:50,735 --> 02:13:57,735
Any comment about how that's been tracking relative to

1757
02:13:58,287 --> 02:14:05,807
Cars going in cars going out in terms of those parking spaces any challenges or congestion around a marketplace a square

1758
02:14:06,368 --> 02:14:09,148
In that regard just just an off the cuff question

1759
02:14:09,148 --> 02:14:14,068
There's somebody to ask and you're thinking specifically on are the managed parking spots

1760
02:14:14,068 --> 02:14:19,707
We have at market square in general a hundred percent because we want essentially that the traffic

1761
02:14:20,247 --> 02:14:25,787
Patterns and impacts and counts that we're getting in those areas. So I just thought it is an opportunity to talk

1762
02:14:26,047 --> 02:14:30,047
to offer a plug or some additional things that we might want to be mindful of,

1763
02:14:30,047 --> 02:14:32,648
those types of things, if there's something that just comes to mind.

1764
02:14:32,648 --> 02:14:36,007
Yeah, and overall, like businesses,

1765
02:14:36,007 --> 02:14:44,087
like they will, it's almost a little bit like Mayor Pro Tem McLucky talked about,

1766
02:14:44,087 --> 02:14:48,368
you know, the success of Trader Joe's, right?

1767
02:14:48,368 --> 02:14:53,608
Businesses and Trader Joes, an example, where they love the activity and traffic

1768
02:14:55,039 --> 02:14:58,039
I don't know if this is the word they would use, but almost like chaos, right?

1769
02:14:58,039 --> 02:14:59,439
You have a lot of activity, a

1770
02:14:59,439 --> 02:15:00,640
lot traffic,

1771
02:15:00,640 --> 02:15:02,340
a lotta stuff.

1772
02:15:02,340 --> 02:15:04,840
That is.

1773
02:15:03,600 --> 02:15:07,920
was viewed positively by the businesses, because the more eyes on them, the

1774
02:15:07,920 --> 02:15:09,520
more likely someone's going to come back.

1775
02:15:10,760 --> 02:15:15,840
And so, just like with our area, with the parking,

1776
02:15:16,880 --> 02:15:21,159
we do continue to see a pretty good amount of utilization of our parking.

1777
02:15:21,159 --> 02:15:25,359
The meters themselves, and I know with what we did recently.

1778
02:15:26,127 --> 02:15:30,568
You know, we will be getting, you know a little bit more.

1779
02:15:30,568 --> 02:15:33,488
We have had kind of a softer hand on enforcement of the meters

1780
02:15:33,488 --> 02:15:39,608
and we'll be starting to do a bit of more of that with the new folks.

1781
02:15:39,608 --> 02:15:44,887
But ultimately we're still getting that turnaround that we want to see

1782
02:15:44,887 --> 02:15:47,847
where before you had people camping out there all day long

1783
02:15:47,847 --> 02:15:51,648
and even though it looked busy you didn't have that activity.

1784
02:15:51,712 --> 02:15:55,872
And so we are still getting, you can go at any given time,

1785
02:15:55,872 --> 02:15:57,351
you still see the turnaround,

1786
02:15:57,351 --> 02:15:58,391
you see folks coming.

1787
02:15:58,391 --> 02:16:01,912
So, and that's why I want to caution

1788
02:16:01,912 --> 02:16:04,192
when I'm talking about the enforcement,

1789
02:16:04,192 --> 02:16:07,391
it's not going to be still not a very heavy hand,

1790
02:16:07,391 --> 02:16:08,351
but we do want

1791
02:16:09,583 --> 02:16:13,743
you know, address anyone that's like perpetual offenders.

1792
02:16:13,743 --> 02:16:19,184
But overall, we are seeing still the level of activity we like to see,

1793
02:16:19,184 --> 02:16:22,463
I guess, if that kind of long answer to your question.

1794
02:16:22,463 --> 02:16:23,503
No, I just...

1795
02:16:23,503 --> 02:16:24,703
What's really important, Amir,

1796
02:16:24,703 --> 02:16:30,463
if I may, is to really affirm that so that our residents begin to understand

1797
02:16:30,463 --> 02:16:34,463
some of those traffic impacts are by design, some things we want to make sure

1798
02:16:34,463 --> 02:16:35,343
that we're seeing, and some

1799
02:16:35,343 --> 02:16:36,863
things that were driving very intentionally.

1800
02:16:38,927 --> 02:16:44,688
areas to for better outcomes for the city as well as the quality of life that residents

1801
02:16:44,688 --> 02:16:48,167
get to enjoy as a result. So just want to make sure that that wasn't missed.

1802
02:16:48,167 --> 02:16:52,208
Then the last thing is in terms of traffic counts, you say that we're going to be very

1803
02:16:52,208 --> 02:16:57,808
intentional later in the year in term of being able to identify those traffic

1804
02:16:59,023 --> 02:17:01,904
Is there a month in mind that we should be mindful of just so that

1805
02:17:01,904 --> 02:17:03,664
residents can be that much more mindful

1806
02:17:03,664 --> 02:17:06,144
of how we're handling the opportunity?

1807
02:17:06,144 --> 02:17:10,384
Yeah, we typically like to collect the traffic data in the fall

1808
02:17:10,384 --> 02:17:15,584
because typically our traffic patterns still are heavily

1809
02:17:15,584 --> 02:17:20,463
influenced by school traffic. When school is out, traffic seems to spread

1810
02:17:20,463 --> 02:17:24,144
out a little more during the day. And school's in a lot of our peak hours,

1811
02:17:24,144 --> 02:17:28,463
you know, start to lean toward the beginning and end of schools.

1812
02:17:28,399 --> 02:17:41,399
And so, we want to manage our peak tower traffic, so we'll start them collecting it usually in probably late September, late to mid September and then we then typically

1813
02:17:41,727 --> 02:17:48,227
Try to get them done before the Thanksgiving week because then traffic goes all wonky between Thanksgiving and Christmas, right?

1814
02:17:48,227 --> 02:17:55,788
So we may then, if we don't get em all collected by then we would resume it, usually around mid-January,

1815
02:17:55,788 --> 02:17:59,427
but we then avoid, you know, like snowstorms and that sort of thing.

1816
02:17:59,427 --> 02:18:00,628
Okay, thanks so much.

1817
02:18:00,628 --> 02:18:01,528
So go ahead, ma'am.

1818
02:18:01,528 --> 02:18:02,628
Great, thank you so many.

1819
02:18:02,628 --> 02:18:03,727
Any other questions?

1820
02:18:04,224 --> 02:18:05,783
All right, Jack, great report.

1821
02:18:05,783 --> 02:18:07,783
Thanks so much for sharing tonight.

1822
02:18:07,783 --> 02:18:09,023
More to come.

1823
02:18:09,023 --> 02:18:12,664
Now we'll move to item number 12, which I know most,

1824
02:18:12,664 --> 02:18:15,623
if not all the council has been waiting for.

1825
02:18:15,623 --> 02:18:18,103
So Mr. Sugg, our city manager,

1826
02:18:18,103 --> 02:18:20,144
you're gonna give us a duck day's debrief.

1827
02:18:21,543 --> 02:18:22,744
Oh, I've got the two experts.

1828
02:18:22,744 --> 02:18:26,263
I got Duck Parade director,

1829
02:18:26,263 --> 02:18:28,904
as well as public works director Jack Eklund.

1830
02:18:29,567 --> 02:18:35,567
here, and also on screen, we have Marion as remote,

1831
02:18:35,567 --> 02:18:41,567
a polyway, our events director, so the two of them are going to

1832
02:18:42,064 --> 02:18:47,263
give you a staff report and then open it up for council comments of feedback.

1833
02:18:47,263 --> 02:18:51,283
Yeah, and so well thank you again Mr. Mayor and City Council and once again I am Jack

1834
02:18:51,283 --> 02:18:56,343
Echlin, Puller's Director and I'm sure by this point you're tired of hearing me talk.

1835
02:18:56,343 --> 02:19:00,744
So fortunately for you as Steve mentioned, Marion's joining me up here online and

1836
02:19:00,744 --> 02:19:03,824
so you won't have to listen to me the whole time.

1837
02:19:03,824 --> 02:19:12,023
Anyway, so tonight, as Steve mentioned, we are providing the debrief on our duck days event that we held earlier this year.

1838
02:19:12,023 --> 02:19:15,384
Now, Emmy, if you could provide,

1839
02:19:15,384 --> 02:19:17,783
we're going to play while we give our report.

1840
02:19:17,783 --> 02:19:24,943
We have a seat we'll be showing on the screen a series of photos that put together from our communications team.

1841
02:19:26,352 --> 02:19:36,352
And as you'll be able to see from these pictures, that I'm happy to report that despite the, you know, a little bit of rain and the threat of thunderstorms,

1842
02:19:36,352 --> 02:19:43,352
we really did have a great turnout both from participants and spectators, and it resulted in another successful event.

1843
02:19:43,352 --> 02:19:51,352
Let's see, well, as that's getting ready there.

1844
02:19:56,399 --> 02:20:02,719
Yeah, so now this year we did have one of the highest amount of participation in the parade

1845
02:20:04,440 --> 02:20:08,360
Then to date we had 46 separate groups

1846
02:20:08,959 --> 02:20:13,159
As participants in The parade this is 10 groups

1847
02:20:13,600 --> 02:20:21,079
higher than the previous year and it is I'm having to report in excess of what our pre-COVID levels are so we are

1848
02:20:26,319 --> 02:20:34,319
Now, I do want to highlight a few things that we implemented this year that helped the parade run smoother.

1849
02:20:34,319 --> 02:20:35,319
First of all,

1850
02:20:35,319 --> 02:20:39,319
I'd like to commend our risk management and finance team.

1851
02:20:38,816 --> 02:20:45,615
who always do so much of the heavy lifting for the preparation of participants in the parade.

1852
02:20:45,615 --> 02:20:51,175
This year, they held three online meetings with the participants to go over what to expect,

1853
02:20:51,175 --> 02:20:58,216
go for any rules and safety measures, provide instructions, as well as answer any questions they may have.

1854
02:20:58,216 --> 02:21:00,015
And this effort really paid off.

1855
02:21:00,015 --> 02:21:06,816
It greatly reduced the participant confusion and frustration and helped get the trade off to a great start.

1856
02:21:07,023 --> 02:21:10,504
I also want to give a shout out to our parks and public work

1857
02:21:10,504 --> 02:21:13,703
crew as well as our police staff in their work

1858
02:21:13,703 --> 02:21:15,744
in managing the traffic for the event.

1859
02:21:15,744 --> 02:21:18,224
They always show up bright and early

1860
02:21:18,224 --> 02:21:20,943
and make sure everything is set up and in place.

1861
02:21:20,943 --> 02:21:23,623
They kept traffic flowing as long as they could.

1862
02:21:23,623 --> 02:21:26,183
And then when we needed to to make things safe,

1863
02:21:26,183 --> 02:21:29,824
they quickly got things closed up

1864
02:21:29,824 --> 02:21:33,904
and, in a coordinate effort to making things

1865
02:21:33,904 --> 02:21:35,943
safe for their participants and the spectators.

1866
02:21:36,304 --> 02:21:42,103
And then when we could possibly safely do it to open it up they quickly got it flowing again.

1867
02:21:42,103 --> 02:21:49,584
And this year we had no incidents of people kind of getting confusion running through the area that they're not supposed to.

1868
02:21:50,943 --> 02:21:57,023
And it was I think one of the smoothest transition both from closing the street and opening up the Nike and

1869
02:21:57,023 --> 02:22:01,543
remember in recent years, so good job all around to all them.

1870
02:22:05,520 --> 02:22:10,559
a few days before the event, we had the notice that we were going to have a severe thunderstorm

1871
02:22:10,559 --> 02:22:16,399
warning in our area, which thanks to our, the great work of both our emergency management

1872
02:22:16,399 --> 02:22:21,959
folks and our communications team, they got a plan out there to, you know, address how

1873
02:22:21,959 --> 02:22:29,280
do we, um, manage the, uh, event should lightning come in and start to threaten the participants

1874
02:22:32,736 --> 02:22:39,456
You know, they coordinated, you know be able to monitor the weather service and you

1875
02:22:39,456 --> 02:22:43,095
know put the word out and provide communications to folks.

1876
02:22:43,095 --> 02:22:49,575
And those, the fact that we had that planning in place now, fortunately we didn't have to.

1877
02:22:49,575 --> 02:22:52,855
The thunderstorms missed us, so that was great.

1878
02:22:56,352 --> 02:23:08,592
The plan we had in place and the communication we put gave a measure amount of relief to the concerns of the participants and spectators alike, so, you know, for example, I know I probably had.

1879
02:23:08,976 --> 02:23:14,976
four or five parents come up to me at the beginning of the parade and they were concerned if okay

1880
02:23:14,976 --> 02:23:19,136
why are we doing this parade what's going on with the lightning and my kid's gonna be holding a

1881
02:23:19,855 --> 02:23:25,456
big metal saxophone in his hand as he goes up is he gonna you know what are you doing for lightning

1882
02:23:25,456 --> 02:23:30,175
and the fact that we could say you we're in contact the weather service we have a shelter

1883
02:23:30,175 --> 02:23:35,615
in place or if something happens if the lightening is within five miles we will stop the Parade

1884
02:23:36,656 --> 02:23:42,095
Having them that you could see the relief on their face just explain, you know when I explained it to him that we have that plan in place and

1885
02:23:43,435 --> 02:23:49,415
Really just great work to our emergency management and communication folks to get that going so quickly

1886
02:23:50,239 --> 02:23:52,760
Now, I do want to talk, you know, with each parade,

1887
02:23:52,760 --> 02:23:55,440
there's all what, there are always lessons learned.

1888
02:23:55,440 --> 02:23:59,520
And I, do wanna discuss the three most significant ones

1889
02:23:59,520 --> 02:24:00,639
in this case.

1890
02:24:00,639 --> 02:24:02,680
Now first of all, as I know you're all aware,

1891
02:24:02,680 --> 02:24:06,120
we did have a delay with the golf carts.

1892
02:24:06,120 --> 02:24:09,479
We added a little, an extra layer of hecticness

1893
02:24:09,479 --> 02:24:12,760
for the start of the parade for both council and staff.

1894
02:24:12,760 --> 02:24:14,920
And it's definitely something that we wanna avoid

1895
02:24:14,920 --> 02:24:16,440
in the future.

1896
02:24:19,760 --> 02:24:23,760
but I will let her address that shortly.

1897
02:24:23,760 --> 02:24:29,760
Before I turn it over though to Mary and I do want to address two other things.

1898
02:24:31,231 --> 02:24:37,672
One item that continues to be a struggle for us is the pacing of the parade so we continue to have

1899
02:24:38,311 --> 02:24:40,711
You know large gaps between groups

1900
02:24:41,311 --> 02:24:46,512
This is mostly caused by a certain group every now and then there'll be groups that maybe do a

1901
02:24:47,191 --> 02:24:51,092
fun routine or some sort of thing where they stop in a

1902
02:24:51,092 --> 02:24:53,092
certain place or slow down to

1903
02:24:53,263 --> 02:24:56,263
interact with the crowd in some manner.

1904
02:24:56,263 --> 02:24:59,724
Now, we're not suggesting necessarily discouraging that

1905
02:24:59,724 --> 02:25:02,404
or limiting that because that does provide

1906
02:25:02,404 --> 02:25:03,824
an extra level of entertainment

1907
02:25:03,824 --> 02:25:08,103
and it's often very appreciated by the spectators.

1908
02:25:08,103 --> 02:25:11,623
However, looking at what other parades do,

1909
02:25:11,623 --> 02:25:13,984
because it is not a unique phenomenon

1910
02:25:13,984 --> 02:25:15,064
to university place, right?

1911
02:25:15,064 --> 02:25:18,904
Other parads will have a group do a routine or something.

1912
02:25:18,904 --> 02:25:21,183
I mean, I guess the most famous example

1913
02:25:22,543 --> 02:25:26,824
Not that I'm saying we're at that level, but you know, there'll be a coordinated effort

1914
02:25:26,824 --> 02:25:32,984
to basically stop the entire parade that gives an opportunity to perform a routine or

1915
02:25:32,984 --> 02:25:37,664
play a song or do something at a designated location.

1916
02:25:38,255 --> 02:25:44,615
By coordinating the whole parade to pause for brief periods of time and then resume got a same level

1917
02:25:44,615 --> 02:25:47,095
Would we'll keep that so you don't have these big spaces?

1918
02:25:47,095 --> 02:25:51,376
So this is something that we're going to continue to explore to see how that can apply to our

1919
02:25:51,976 --> 02:25:54,175
Arparade, we are going, to reach out to some of the other

1920
02:25:54,736 --> 02:25:58,095
You know bigger but more prominent parades in the area

1921
02:25:58,736 --> 02:26:05,335
And just see just logistically if that could apply because that's something we think is worth exploring and we will definitely give you guys

1922
02:26:07,824 --> 02:26:10,103
is something that can work for us.

1923
02:26:10,103 --> 02:26:11,543
And then the third thing I want to talk about

1924
02:26:11,543 --> 02:26:15,504
is we did have an issue this year where we had,

1925
02:26:15,504 --> 02:26:17,863
at the very beginning of the parade,

1926
02:26:17,863 --> 02:26:21,504
we have one of lead groups basically

1927
02:26:21,504 --> 02:26:25,064
decide that they didn't ignore that our public works

1928
02:26:25,064 --> 02:26:28,384
direction of shifting the parade to the side closer

1929
02:26:28,384 --> 02:26:31,224
to market square like we do the year before.

1930
02:26:33,056 --> 02:26:41,816
And so it was a little bit of confusion there, and so that ultimately it resulted in the entire parade going the old route instead of the closer one to that.

1931
02:26:41,816 --> 02:26:50,456
So, that's an easy fix, we're just going to make sure we add a bit more traffic control, make it clear that that is the route to go.

1932
02:26:51,775 --> 02:27:00,216
And I think that the easiest fix but I know people are wondering why we talked about the plan, it's shifting and then it didn't endably do that, so.

1933
02:27:01,327 --> 02:27:05,327
Anyway, those are the three things, but I do want to shift it over to Marion,

1934
02:27:05,327 --> 02:27:08,327
and I know she has some other information she'd like to share with you.

1935
02:27:18,327 --> 02:27:20,327
We can't hear you, Marion.

1936
02:27:24,327 --> 02:27:25,327
Sorry.

1937
02:27:25,327 --> 02:27:29,327
Marion Holloway Program Manager. Thank you! Thank You, Jack.

1938
02:27:29,440 --> 02:27:33,440
Jack did a pretty good update, so I'm going to be brief.

1939
02:27:33,440 --> 02:27:38,440
As he mentioned with the golf carts, we have a delay.

1940
02:27:38,440 --> 02:27:43,440
So we had a brilliant idea that was brought forward for next year.

1941
02:27:43,440 --> 02:27:47,440
We will rent the call carts one day in advance.

1942
02:27:47,440 --> 02:27:55,440
Secure them in the parking garage so council can decorate them Friday or Saturday morning.

1943
02:27:55,200 --> 02:27:57,920
And then that way, if we have any rain,

1944
02:27:57,920 --> 02:28:01,719
they're also dry for you and ready to go.

1945
02:28:02,760 --> 02:28:05,520
You can park in the parking garage then,

1946
02:28:05,520 --> 02:28:07,840
and then your car will be on site at the

1947
02:28:07,840 --> 02:28:09,920
parking Garage when you need to leave.

1948
02:28:10,840 --> 02:28:13,959
So I hope that will remedy the situation

1949
02:28:13,959 --> 02:28:18,440
with the golf carts and the frantic decorating

1950
02:28:18,440 --> 02:28:19,840
in morning.

1951
02:28:19,840 --> 02:28:22,719
But I do want to give a shout out to Council

1952
02:28:22,719 --> 02:28:24,520
and our staff.

1953
02:28:24,448 --> 02:28:29,448
that worked so fast and seamlessly to get the call of cards

1954
02:28:29,448 --> 02:28:34,448
and the council members decorated and in the parade on time.

1955
02:28:34,448 --> 02:28:37,448
It was awesome to see that teamwork.

1956
02:28:37,448 --> 02:28:40,448
Thank you so much.

1957
02:28:40,448 --> 02:28:44,448
And for entertainment this year, we just to give you an update,

1958
02:28:44,448 --> 02:28:50,448
we always bring in our regular routine entertainment that people are used to seeing.

1959
02:28:53,855 --> 02:29:00,656
They were awesome and people expect them now want to give a shout out separately to Sunset

1960
02:29:00,656 --> 02:29:07,615
Bible Church. They have a band in the back of their truck that is basically a traveling band

1961
02:29:07,615 --> 02:29:14,495
down the parade and they provide entertainment through the entire parade, and music. So thank

1962
02:29:17,760 --> 02:29:21,760
This year, so we always try to add some added activities.

1963
02:29:21,760 --> 02:29:25,760
And this year we had the magician and the atrium for the kids.

1964
02:29:25,760 --> 02:29:30,760
We had one man band that was shown in the images, and he was awesome.

1965
02:29:30,760 --> 02:29:34,760
He has instruments strapped to his feet and his arms.

1966
02:29:34,760 --> 02:29:40,760
And also a surprise was our JBLM Bigfoot Ross band.

1967
02:29:40,559 --> 02:29:45,559
that we were lucky to secure kind of a last-minute ad.

1968
02:29:45,559 --> 02:29:50,559
Turned out to be a crowd favorite and we brought them in for the USA 250th.

1969
02:29:50,559 --> 02:29:54,559
I hope we can bring them back maybe for music on the square next year,

1970
02:29:54,559 --> 02:29:59,559
because they were pretty well received and really fun to watch.

1971
02:29:59,559 --> 02:30:05,559
So I think unless Jack has anything else to add that will conclude the staff report.

1972
02:30:07,376 --> 02:30:10,376
And I look forward to the updates next year, even better.

1973
02:30:11,876 --> 02:30:14,376
Awesome. Thank you both for that report.

1974
02:30:14,376 --> 02:30:19,376
I know the council has lots of questions, at least so I'm told.

1975
02:30:19,376 --> 02:30:23,376
And, I just have two comments I'd like to make.

1976
02:30:23,376 --> 02:30:26,376
And then we'll just open it up here for conversation.

1977
02:30:26,376 --> 02:30:29,376
You know, one has to do with.

1978
02:30:29,376 --> 02:30:35,376
When we are going down Bridgeport way, we shut the entire street down.

1979
02:30:36,512 --> 02:30:42,272
keep half the participants, i.e. the citizens, away from the parade.

1980
02:30:42,272 --> 02:30:47,072
So, you know, my ask is next year, since we've closed the road,

1981
02:30:47,072 --> 02:30:50,752
the safety issue's met, pull those folks from

1982
02:30:52,239 --> 02:30:56,799
East side of the road over to the center median, so they can at least

1983
02:30:57,440 --> 02:31:01,500
Participate in the parade closer like the folks on the West side get to do

1984
02:31:02,239 --> 02:31:06,940
Versus being two lanes away from us and feeling pretty isolated

1985
02:31:07,440 --> 02:31:12,440
So that's not just a suggestion, but a request.

1986
02:31:12,440 --> 02:31:19,440
And then Jack, to your point, when you're trying to figure out how to channel folks into the opposite side,

1987
02:31:19,440 --> 02:31:25,440
the same thing, you can rope off those parts so people will naturally fill that in.

1988
02:31:25,440 --> 02:31:31,440
And the west side at that point can become part of the participate from the center medium.

1989
02:31:36,783 --> 02:31:41,263
both sides of the street to participate in the parade watching it.

1990
02:31:43,424 --> 02:31:48,824
The other thing you mentioned was this positing and spacing and how do you fix that problem?

1991
02:31:48,824 --> 02:31:52,783
And I will tell you having been in parades for 30 years in different cities.

1992
02:31:53,311 --> 02:31:56,752
it's always there, it always will be.

1993
02:31:56,752 --> 02:32:00,652
You can try everything you can't fix that.

1994
02:32:00,652 --> 02:32:04,752
You know, you just try to encourage people to keep moving,

1995
02:32:04,752 --> 02:32:06,191
but you're gonna have those,

1996
02:32:06,191 --> 02:32:07,832
especially like marching bands.

1997
02:32:07,832 --> 02:32:09,992
They've got their routine.

1998
02:32:09,992 --> 02:32:12,592
You've your baton rollers, sometimes they've

1999
02:32:12,592 --> 02:32:17,592
got the routine, the crowd still loves it.

2000
02:32:17,951 --> 02:32:19,951
Now, I think what you are trying to get to is,

2001
02:32:19,951 --> 02:32:22,752
you know you have spacing, but maybe not to have.

2002
02:32:22,768 --> 02:32:29,487
A lot of spacing where half the parade is still back there and half of the braids already done so you know

2003
02:32:29,487 --> 02:32:33,388
That's obviously work in progress, but I wouldn't take it frustrated over it

2004
02:32:33,388 --> 02:32:40,868
It's it's the nature of The Beast when it comes to braides and people here obviously love their tuck days parade. So thanks

2005
02:32:41,327 --> 02:32:44,647
Okay floors open questions comments council member figure. Oh

2006
02:32:46,167 --> 02:32:49,188
Hey, mayor, it was a simple suggestion

2007
02:32:49,888 --> 02:32:51,888
Mr. Rekland and that is

2008
02:32:52,255 --> 02:33:01,536
There's no flake parade in Bellevue, you might want to talk to those folks to do a very good job at pausing the whole parade because they do

2009
02:33:01,536 --> 02:33:06,695
a lot of little skits and everybody just stops.

2010
02:33:06,695 --> 02:33:11,415
Otherwise, he will be really disastrous what you're talking about, so you may want talk

2011
02:33:11,415 --> 02:33:12,415
to us folks.

2012
02:33:12,415 --> 02:33:13,415
They do really great job.

2013
02:33:13,415 --> 02:33:14,415
Thank you, Mayor.

2014
02:33:14,415 --> 02:33:15,415
Thank You.

2015
02:33:15,415 --> 02:33:16,415
Can you come from regressing?

2016
02:33:17,167 --> 02:33:18,167
Thank you, Mayor.

2017
02:33:18,167 --> 02:33:19,167
Thank You.

2018
02:33:19,167 --> 02:33:23,448
Marianne, this is cruel and unusual to make you do this the day after a big successful

2019
02:33:23,448 --> 02:33:24,448
movie in the park.

2020
02:33:24,448 --> 02:33:27,407
So I'm sure you're still on Cloud9 from that.

2021
02:33:27,407 --> 02:33:32,808
But thank you to your team and thank You, Mr. Eklund for this great, safe event and

2022
02:33:32,808 --> 02:33:35,448
always a highlight.

2023
02:33:35,448 --> 02:33:38,368
I am just going to move through my list if that's okay.

2024
02:33:38,368 --> 02:33:42,448
46 participants, do we know how many of those were campaigns and elected officials?

2025
02:33:45,631 --> 02:33:49,951
They're not as exciting to be in a parade and so I would want to make sure that we're

2026
02:33:49,951 --> 02:33:55,231
not skewing that number, you know, a UP school campaign and different things, levees contributing

2027
02:33:55,231 --> 02:33:56,231
to that.

2028
02:33:56,231 --> 02:33:58,791
And it always feels like that's growing each year.

2029
02:33:58,791 --> 02:34:02,992
So I hope we still have enough participants to outweigh that

2030
02:34:02,992 --> 02:34:08,832
Yeah, and we definitely can get you the stats, statistics on that this year, we did have

2031
02:34:08,832 --> 02:34:12,191
fewer of those than the previous year so

2032
02:34:14,095 --> 02:34:16,335
Probably where the election cycles fell, but

2033
02:34:17,396 --> 02:34:23,415
Which to me was a good sign since we had ten more groups this year than the previous year and fewer of the

2034
02:34:27,095 --> 02:34:32,736
Yeah, the political type of stuff so but we definitely can get that for you. It's a challenge to be able to

2035
02:34:33,551 --> 02:34:36,111
discourage it or yeah, I don't think we should discourage

2036
02:34:36,111 --> 02:34:38,592
it. I just think it's a great way to combat to always know.

2037
02:34:39,631 --> 02:34:44,111
I want to go against the First Amendment. But I like, you

2038
02:34:44,111 --> 02:34:47,711
know, it just be great to have a in our heads that that's kind

2039
02:34:47,711 --> 02:34:50,672
of a different number numbering acts. And I'm not sure how that

2040
02:34:50,672 --> 02:34:53,631
works when you check in, but I would love to see a clear

2041
02:34:53,631 --> 02:34:57,072
designated tent that says check-in here with a participant

2042
02:34:57,072 --> 02:35:00,191
number for each group and make sure that every group has a

2043
02:35:02,959 --> 02:35:08,399
They don't know when they're supposed to go, then they get separated from their vehicle and

2044
02:35:08,399 --> 02:35:11,120
the walking group when want to be with their vehicles.

2045
02:35:11,120 --> 02:35:16,840
And I feel like if they have a vehicle, and they've a walking groups, I know that we have safety concerns, but they need to together.

2046
02:35:16,840 --> 02:35:18,319
Five, group five should be.

2047
02:35:18,703 --> 02:35:21,343
with group five. Does that make sense if they have a car and they

2048
02:35:21,343 --> 02:35:25,103
have that it's just otherwise you have the walkers of a campaign and then you

2049
02:35:25,103 --> 02:35:28,943
have car of the campaign. And it just invites in for other things. So I

2050
02:35:28,943 --> 02:35:32,064
really feel like there should be a clear signage at that tent

2051
02:35:32,064 --> 02:35:35,343
at the church where you check in, participant check

2052
02:35:35,343 --> 02:35:38,783
in here so it is clear where to go and each participant give it a

2053
02:35:39,504 --> 02:35:47,384
And to walk with one thing I do want to just note this year and I think it really I credit Leslie and her groups and Grace

2054
02:35:48,703 --> 02:35:50,703
For all the prep work they did

2055
02:35:51,103 --> 02:35:57,384
We had much more of that frustration from folks in the past about not being able to work with their vehicle

2056
02:35:57,904 --> 02:36:03,384
And because they had all those meetings and they explained why the safety concern was and what was going on

2057
02:36:03,384 --> 02:36:08,424
We got very little that I just think from the from those groups right and so I thank

2058
02:36:08,783 --> 02:36:15,304
This year was one of the better ones with that from a logistics standpoint.

2059
02:36:15,304 --> 02:36:23,504
But we want to continuously kind of evaluate the safety and how we can, because we wanna be able to accommodate as much as we

2060
02:36:23,504 --> 02:36:26,863
can and so we'll continue to look at those but obviously.

2061
02:36:27,247 --> 02:36:29,808
we do to make sure we're doing it safely.

2062
02:36:29,808 --> 02:36:31,768
Yeah, I'm just other as, you know,

2063
02:36:31,768 --> 02:36:34,128
other parades seem to figure it out.

2064
02:36:34,128 --> 02:36:36,927
So I feel like we should be able to work on it.

2065
02:36:36,927 --> 02:36:38,288
I would love, again, these are ideas

2066
02:36:38,288 --> 02:36:40,128
that I've given before and I have gotten shot down before,

2067
02:36:40,128 --> 02:36:40,968
but I am just going to go.

2068
02:36:40,968 --> 02:36:42,847
I want to give it my college try again

2069
02:36:42,847 --> 02:36:44,407
because I never, never give up.

2070
02:36:44,407 --> 02:36:46,727
So senior cars participating,

2071
02:36:46,727 --> 02:36:49,247
I'd love to have an invitation to those

2072
02:36:49,247 --> 02:36:51,128
that are graduating seniors to

2073
02:36:51,128 --> 02:36:53,048
have a car in the parade, Curtis,

2074
02:36:53,048 --> 02:36:56,167
and our other high schoolers, local car collectors.

2075
02:36:56,528 --> 02:36:58,647
lots of people that have car collectors in the city,

2076
02:36:58,647 --> 02:37:00,487
I think they'd love to show off their parade.

2077
02:37:00,487 --> 02:37:02,808
The more I candy and the parade, the better.

2078
02:37:02,808 --> 02:37:04,247
I'd loved to see the loop,

2079
02:37:04,247 --> 02:37:07,268
I'm just gonna go rapid fire, parade loop around.

2080
02:37:07,268 --> 02:37:08,968
As another option, I know the mayor alluded

2081
02:37:08,968 --> 02:37:11,708
to having them come back on to the median,

2082
02:37:11,708 --> 02:37:13,487
but I also think it might be an interesting idea

2083
02:37:13,487 --> 02:37:15,808
to just have them loop back so we can,

2084
02:37:15,808 --> 02:37:18,368
everyone, no one has said, oh, that parade was too long.

2085
02:37:18,368 --> 02:37:20,448
If anything, they've said oh it's over already,

2086
02:37:20,448 --> 02:37:23,567
could we go up and loop them right back around

2087
02:37:23,567 --> 02:37:24,448
to where they started?

2088
02:37:25,744 --> 02:37:30,744
at this point where their car is and both sides get to enjoy the parade.

2089
02:37:30,744 --> 02:37:35,343
I think you put a lot of work into those parades and kids getting ready a little longer.

2090
02:37:35,343 --> 02:37:35,744
I don't think-

2091
02:37:36,159 --> 02:37:41,479
Anybody, best in show competition, the gig harbor parade that happens on the same day as ours.

2092
02:37:41,479 --> 02:37:43,520
They have a best-in-show award.

2093
02:37:43,520 --> 02:37:49,559
People really get decked out to be in that parade and gives them some more pride in the acts that they're putting together.

2094
02:37:49,559 --> 02:37:55,559
Best dressed in yellow in a parade option, competition also to have the rally point at the end at this stage.

2095
02:37:55,559 --> 02:38:00,319
I want to thank Rotary for doing the duck days treasure hunt before.

2096
02:38:00,319 --> 02:38:05,399
That was a huge success that really captured the spirit of the community before,

2097
02:38:05,744 --> 02:38:07,263
to see them to do that again.

2098
02:38:07,263 --> 02:38:10,343
I'd love us to also explore the use of city cars more,

2099
02:38:10,343 --> 02:38:13,343
more of our actual, our cars to be involved,

2100
02:38:13,343 --> 02:38:16,064
public works cars, we could decorate those as well.

2101
02:38:16,064 --> 02:38:18,064
Again, more eye candy.

2102
02:38:18,064 --> 02:38:20,584
I love the fact that we're gonna have the golf carts

2103
02:38:20,584 --> 02:38:22,504
the night before, I think that's wonderful.

2104
02:38:22,504 --> 02:38:25,504
I still go back to the affordability of it.

2105
02:38:25,504 --> 02:38:28,103
I feel like we really lost a great partner

2106
02:38:28,103 --> 02:38:32,064
in our Corvette Club that for years sustained us

2107
02:38:32,064 --> 02:38:34,343
with having council members in those COVID vets,

2108
02:38:34,959 --> 02:38:36,959
They were pretty, they were exciting and they

2109
02:38:36,959 --> 02:38:37,959
were free.

2110
02:38:37,959 --> 02:38:39,840
And to save us the amount of money now,

2111
02:38:39,840 --> 02:38:43,479
to then now add to the rental cost of another day,

2112
02:38:43,479 --> 02:38:45,799
I think that we should be really thoughtful about that,

2113
02:38:45,799 --> 02:38:48,120
because they are a valued partner.

2114
02:38:48,120 --> 02:38:50,360
And so now not only are we taking that away,

2115
02:38:50,360 --> 02:38:53,120
but now we're adding more dollars to a rental

2116
02:38:53,120 --> 02:38:54,719
for overnight for our convenience.

2117
02:38:54,719 --> 02:38:56,840
And I say, there's a better way that way we could do it.

2118
02:38:56,840 --> 02:38:59,239
We could also ask for Chris Golf and Country Club

2119
02:38:59,239 --> 02:39:01,639
if we really want to borrow some golf carts.

2120
02:39:01,639 --> 02:39:03,639
Talk to be executive.

2121
02:39:04,175 --> 02:39:06,515
like the mayor alluded to to see what Chambers Bay could do.

2122
02:39:06,515 --> 02:39:09,636
But it saddens me that we lost that partnership

2123
02:39:09,636 --> 02:39:11,396
and it's cost the city dollars.

2124
02:39:11,396 --> 02:39:12,236
So.

2125
02:39:13,120 --> 02:39:20,120
I've said enough about that. But booths also in the park. I also think as we've expanded our footprint, it's so jam logged in here.

2126
02:39:20,120 --> 02:39:22,120
It's great activity. The crowds are great.

2127
02:39:22,120 --> 02:39:34,120
But to explore the idea of having some booths in Homestead Park again, like we used to have, I think might be an interesting idea for local businesses or vendors that want to be out there, the kids makers market that was fabulous at moving the Park.

2128
02:39:42,736 --> 02:39:47,536
That might be everything I have I'm sorry for the rambling, but I

2129
02:39:49,095 --> 02:39:52,935
Love this event. I think a lot of work goes into it marrying you do such a great job

2130
02:39:53,415 --> 02:39:59,136
Everyone the team does a Great job. It's the signature event and I would just love to see it level up if we could so

2131
02:39:59,296 --> 02:40:05,015
Thank you, man. That's all I had awesome great comments. Thank You very much mayor pro chem. All right. Thanks you

2132
02:40:07,951 --> 02:40:15,672
This event is always like Melanie. Well, Council member Gossie has indicated our signature event into the summer event season

2133
02:40:15,672 --> 02:40:23,111
So you know the big splash a big big yellow and yeah, your team works really hard to do that

2134
02:40:23,111 --> 02:40:28,791
So kudos to your Team and all the extra coordination that you do and also

2135
02:40:29,471 --> 02:40:35,811
Looking as as how you can improve the event marching on and I do appreciate

2136
02:40:36,415 --> 02:40:44,255
you having an open mind hearing some of these other things that they could possibly make it even better because, you know,

2137
02:40:44,255 --> 02:40:48,415
you can never be good enough, right? We always can do better and make, make

2138
02:40:48,415 --> 02:40:52,415
it more exciting. And I...

2139
02:40:51,968 --> 02:40:59,167
I do concur with Councilman Regrassie's indication for eye candy to look at things as you had indicated.

2140
02:40:59,167 --> 02:41:07,968
The entertainment factor of the parade, they keep that growing and vibrant and alive with the theme of

2141
02:41:07,968 --> 02:41:12,968
the duck and the daffodils and yellowing it up.

2142
02:41:19,904 --> 02:41:26,443
the duck passport to also maybe encourage that to grow with the local businesses.

2143
02:41:26,443 --> 02:41:31,004
So they could start yellowing it up as we had that proposal for clack it

2144
02:41:31,004 --> 02:41:36,404
up, so more on that, to come as well.

2145
02:41:36,404 --> 02:41:37,324
Good.

2146
02:41:37,324 --> 02:41:41,884
Yeah, I would like to invite the Corvette Club back.

2147
02:41:41,884 --> 02:41:43,084
But I tell you what,

2148
02:41:43,084 --> 02:41:44,884
I love decorating my golf cart.

2149
02:41:45,263 --> 02:41:50,943
That's a lot of fun, and I'm getting quite the collection of golf cart decor now.

2150
02:41:50,943 --> 02:41:54,304
So every year I add to that.

2151
02:41:54,304 --> 02:42:00,263
And so just to keep that fun factor going, going in it and

2152
02:42:00,263 --> 02:42:05,424
that level of curiosity like what's left, what is next?

2153
02:42:05,424 --> 02:42:09,863
Because I think that will bring out more generational crowds to.

2154
02:42:10,335 --> 02:42:16,995
to the parade as they also talk to other people about their experiences at the

2155
02:42:16,995 --> 02:42:21,095
parade will get people that maybe, you know, have never experienced the parade

2156
02:42:21,095 --> 02:42:28,095
that live in our city, get them to come out and see what's happening on that

2157
02:42:28,095 --> 02:42:33,376
Saturday. So thank you. That's all my comments. Great. Thank you Mayor.

2158
02:42:35,855 --> 02:42:36,896
Thank you, Mayor.

2159
02:42:36,896 --> 02:42:38,335
I just have a few comments.

2160
02:42:38,335 --> 02:42:41,296
First, Council Member Grossi, more or less what she said.

2161
02:42:41,296 --> 02:42:43,695
That's number one, but I appreciate it.

2162
02:42:43,695 --> 02:42:45,495
There's a lot of very good ideas in there.

2163
02:42:45,495 --> 02:42:51,015
But I do really like the idea of having stage spots.

2164
02:42:51,015 --> 02:42:52,536
I think you should pursue that one.

2165
02:42:52,536 --> 02:42:54,376
Yeah, it may not fix all our problems.

2166
02:42:54,376 --> 02:42:56,095
Totally agree with the mayor on that.

2167
02:42:56,095 --> 02:42:59,456
But, I like that idea having a set performance spot or maybe more than one so

2168
02:42:59,456 --> 02:43:03,015
that people can know, hey, we can crowd here and we're going to see a performance.

2169
02:43:05,551 --> 02:43:10,191
I participated in the DuPont Parade recently, supporting a friend of mine.

2170
02:43:10,191 --> 02:43:14,871
And they actually issued participant numbers, and they had everybody line up in order.

2171
02:43:14,871 --> 02:43:18,391
And, they did intermex vehicles with people, so.

2172
02:43:18,391 --> 02:43:20,152
And what parade was that you say again?

2173
02:43:20,152 --> 02:43:20,711
What's that?

2174
02:43:20,711 --> 02:43:23,152
What parade, was it again, DuPon?

2175
02:43:23,152 --> 02:43:24,311
Dupon, okay, yeah.

2176
02:43:24,311 --> 02:43:28,031
So how they didn't, why they do it that way, now they weren't chucking candy either.

2177
02:43:28,031 --> 02:43:29,711
But they were definitely had.

2178
02:43:30,175 --> 02:43:36,015
people lined up with their vehicles and they had them pre-staged on a side road which I don't know if that would work for us here necessarily.

2179
02:43:36,015 --> 02:43:39,816
But everybody staged in order and then just was able to move out with what they were doing.

2180
02:43:41,015 --> 02:43:50,015
And then finally, I've mentioned this before off to the side to staff but I would like us to look into the strength of our physical barriers to

2181
02:43:50,015 --> 02:43:51,335
the parade route.

2182
02:43:51,335 --> 02:43:57,175
I'm just concerned because every few months I see in the news there's another crazy guy driving a van down a parade

2183
02:43:57,175 --> 02:43:59,376
route and I am just.

2184
02:44:00,144 --> 02:44:03,504
It's a very easy thing to fix as far as vulnerability.

2185
02:44:03,504 --> 02:44:07,863
You just put in physical barriers that can't be moved by a vehicle on all the access points.

2186
02:44:07,863 --> 02:44:10,703
And you can find some of those very inexpensively overall.

2187
02:44:10,703 --> 02:44:13,824
I would just like us to look at that, or we can part vehicles or do more.

2188
02:44:13,824 --> 02:44:20,664
But I'd just to know that our parade area is secure during those kinds of events, make you feel about it.

2189
02:44:20,664 --> 02:44:26,863
We did increase that but it still didn't appear enough from your perspective.

2190
02:44:28,239 --> 02:44:32,680
What I saw there's some areas that were definitely like on the main road itself, obviously things were well blocked off

2191
02:44:32,680 --> 02:44:38,319
I'm more concerned about side street access to how and how protected those were and they may have been better protected

2192
02:44:38,319 --> 02:44:41,600
I just didn't get the feedback I had asked for so I'd just like to follow up on that one

2193
02:44:41,600 --> 02:44:45,579
Yeah, and that can just not comments mayor. I think those are great comments. Thank you

2194
02:44:45,579 --> 02:44:49,600
You know Jack I do recall when we came around the band towards the fire station

2195
02:44:50,440 --> 02:44:57,620
On bridge what way I don't recall barriers on bridge for a way if I sell a lot of folks, but I didn t see any protective barriers

2196
02:44:58,239 --> 02:45:05,239
There should have been the vehicles, I think we had two public works vehicles straddling the street, but I'll make sure we double check that.

2197
02:45:05,239 --> 02:45:15,239
And then also, we'll get back and report to you what are, where are we stationing them and then we can help kind of review that ahead of time if,

2198
02:45:15,239 --> 02:45:20,239
you know, are there places and vulnerabilities who want to reinforce, you reinforce that,

2199
02:45:20,239 --> 02:45:21,239
I that's a good idea.

2200
02:45:21,247 --> 02:45:26,647
You know, I want to just point out again, our staff, you know

2201
02:45:26,647 --> 02:45:32,647
mirroring and everyone else does, public works does a great job.

2202
02:45:32,647 --> 02:45:38,048
You have a phenomenal job in bringing out the best and.

2203
02:45:38,111 --> 02:45:45,111
Creating that celebratory environment that we all get all jazzed and jazz'd up about.

2204
02:45:45,111 --> 02:45:51,551
But I think the comments that you've heard tonight from council are heartfelt and they're very well taken.

2205
02:45:51,551 --> 02:45:56,752
And I hope that in planning ahead that, we can take all those into account because I

2206
02:45:56,752 --> 02:45:59,551
think there's value to be added to that.

2207
02:45:59,920 --> 02:46:04,319
I know we struggle, man, I've heard you many times.

2208
02:46:04,319 --> 02:46:08,639
We struggle over the candy issue and people with vehicles.

2209
02:46:08,639 --> 02:46:10,879
But in my little way of thinking in

2210
02:46:10,879 --> 02:46:13,440
my head, UP is the best.

2211
02:46:13,440 --> 02:46:14,399
And we've got the

2212
02:46:14,399 --> 02:46:15,600
best knowledge, we got

2213
02:46:15,600 --> 02:46:15,760
the

2214
02:46:15,760 --> 02:46:16,799
best expertise.

2215
02:46:17,520 --> 02:46:19,920
If DuPont can figure it out,

2216
02:46:19,920 --> 02:46:21,040
if Stilicum can

2217
02:46:21,040 --> 02:46:22,159
figure out.

2218
02:46:22,159 --> 02:46:23,280
If Garber can

2219
02:46:23,280 --> 02:46:23,600
figure

2220
02:46:23,600 --> 02:46:23,760
it

2221
02:46:23,760 --> 02:46:25,840
out there is not a reason on this

2222
02:46:25,840 --> 02:46:29,760
planet why.

2223
02:46:27,072 --> 02:46:29,391
university place can't figure it out.

2224
02:46:29,391 --> 02:46:36,432
So, you know, the challenge, I think, to the staff is that take note of what our surrounding

2225
02:46:36,432 --> 02:46:52,352
communities do and see how we can do that better so that everyone can have that added.

2226
02:46:45,551 --> 02:46:50,352
excitement if you will. I know this year one of the things that I paid real

2227
02:46:50,352 --> 02:46:54,912
close attention to was the number of kids that lined that street with their

2228
02:46:54,912 --> 02:46:59,231
little bags hoping they were going to get something, you know, tossed at them or

2229
02:46:59,231 --> 02:47:09,711
given to them as they walked down the road there.

2230
02:47:02,463 --> 02:47:07,603
You know, I also think that I do want to echo the comments

2231
02:47:07,603 --> 02:47:09,603
that others have made about, you know the loss

2232
02:47:09,603 --> 02:47:11,404
of the Corvette Club.

2233
02:47:11,404 --> 02:47:13,564
I think it was a big mistake on our part,

2234
02:47:13,564 --> 02:47:16,244
and I'll admit that right up front, but I

2235
02:47:16,244 --> 02:47:18,744
think we can do better with that and we should circle back

2236
02:47:18,744 --> 02:47:21,484
to that one and revisit it.

2237
02:47:21,484 --> 02:47:24,843
And then for the other activities out there having that,

2238
02:47:24,843 --> 02:47:28,123
I guess you call it the parade bling that you're referring

2239
02:47:28,123 --> 02:47:29,724
to down there, and you, know I,

2240
02:47:31,760 --> 02:47:38,159
you know putting that additional little touch on what we do and what I consider

2241
02:47:38,159 --> 02:47:44,239
one of the coolest parades around but you take all those comments but but know

2242
02:47:44,239 --> 02:47:49,840
that you guys have done and continue to do a great job with that. Are there any

2243
02:47:49,840 --> 02:47:54,079
other comments before we move on? Yes. Yes, Council Member Boykin.

2244
02:47:59,984 --> 02:48:01,904
Thank you so much, Mayor.

2245
02:48:01,904 --> 02:48:08,304
I just want to fully appreciate the willingness of the innovation and the creativity to take first year.

2246
02:48:08,304 --> 02:48:16,824
It is really easy as people do things tomorrow very simply than to what they did yesterday.

2247
02:48:17,023 --> 02:48:19,664
we somewhat defined as their present.

2248
02:48:19,664 --> 02:48:28,304
And so if we aren't, some of the comments that have been alluded to really intentional about how is it that we could make another level up opportunity.

2249
02:48:28,304 --> 02:48:37,584
We might miss just some really great experiences that there are a number of people who would love for us to lean into.

2250
02:48:37,584 --> 02:48:43,904
I think the things that really could drive this approach can give us

2251
02:48:46,703 --> 02:48:53,904
Because in the logistics, there can be a scenario where we're very intentional about stopping the parade.

2252
02:48:53,904 --> 02:49:01,064
In the logistic we can't be very intentionally about ensuring that whether it's a prelude to crack it up.

2253
02:49:01,064 --> 02:49:05,863
That the business community has a much more pronounced footprint.

2254
02:49:05,863 --> 02:49:09,224
An opportunity to engage volunteers very differently.

2255
02:49:09,224 --> 02:49:14,504
So that we've got a better special experience that that were driving because we were that much point additional about.

2256
02:49:14,847 --> 02:49:22,208
Seeing how can we comprehensively bring the whole community into this staple event that we all love so much.

2257
02:49:22,208 --> 02:49:25,608
And the safety aspect that's also been addressed.

2258
02:49:25,608 --> 02:49:31,167
It is profound for us to anticipate, not to

2259
02:49:31,167 --> 02:49:37,888
anticipate that there's going to be great days ahead where we can be very.

2260
02:49:38,559 --> 02:49:47,120
intentional about how we protect citizens, how to protect ourselves when it comes to events that we know are becoming bigger and bigger.

2261
02:49:47,120 --> 02:49:52,120
Because the luring factor that were so intentional is there.

2262
02:49:52,120 --> 02:49:59,200
And in that regard, just being mindful about leveling it all up is just a really good way for

2263
02:49:59,200 --> 02:50:06,920
us to not miss the quality of life that can drive everybody and keep you more and more special.

2264
02:50:08,752 --> 02:50:13,252
All the things I've heard, including whether or not we consider a different route.

2265
02:50:13,252 --> 02:50:18,152
Make sure that it's an opportunity that we move people to better spaces.

2266
02:50:18,152 --> 02:50:20,951
The intimacy could create challenges for us, but the idea that

2267
02:50:20,951 --> 02:50:25,551
we're trying to make it more intimate for them, to a better position them to be closer

2268
02:50:25,551 --> 02:50:28,752
to the actual action, if you will.

2269
02:50:28,752 --> 02:50:35,951
Me and mindful that perhaps doing a loop creates everybody having a front row seat.

2270
02:50:36,048 --> 02:50:46,368
at some time in the parade very differently, but also being really mindful that everybody's going to take that great experience and say I'm just so glad I am here enjoying all of this.

2271
02:50:46,368 --> 02:50:50,647
So I just think centering the logistics as a way to ensure that we're going

2272
02:50:50,647 --> 02:50:53,968
to gain improvement exponentially is the first way that

2273
02:50:53,968 --> 02:50:59,888
we can be a very different payoff for all the things that

2274
02:51:04,927 --> 02:51:14,208
As since it is such a long standing tradition, whether you agree to, it's always had a thread or not, again,

2275
02:51:14,208 --> 02:51:15,128
it can be a both hand.

2276
02:51:15,128 --> 02:51:22,368
We can figure out how if we must get more candy into the hands of kids and us adults that really like candy.

2277
02:51:22,768 --> 02:51:25,968
I'm sorry about that Dennis, I really like candy.

2278
02:51:25,968 --> 02:51:28,327
I mean, we could very well figure out a way, again,

2279
02:51:28,327 --> 02:51:29,208
to have a both hands.

2280
02:51:29,208 --> 02:51:31,167
So I just like the conversation, and I

2281
02:51:31,167 --> 02:51:33,567
just hope that you appreciate and think about it

2282
02:51:33,567 --> 02:51:38,048
in a ways that all these ideas could be really impactful

2283
02:51:38,048 --> 02:51:41,288
to having a much better experience for our entire community.

2284
02:51:40,976 --> 02:51:44,216
Thank you, Mayor. Thank. You, council member.

2285
02:51:44,216 --> 02:51:48,775
Yeah. So I mean, I think my colleagues have all said great things.

2286
02:51:48,775 --> 02:51:56,095
My one thing is just about the pacing. I thing that our pacing is pretty significant

2287
02:51:56,095 --> 02:52:01,056
to where people think it's over and that it is not. It's like a full half time. And

2288
02:52:02,304 --> 02:52:09,224
To create more fullness, I think that we need to market the opportunity to enter the parade a lot sooner.

2289
02:52:09,224 --> 02:52:15,623
Everybody knows it's an annual event, so I that month and some change turn around is hard.

2290
02:52:15,623 --> 02:52:20,463
We always leave people out, there's always new people coming here that don't realize it is an opportunity.

2291
02:52:20,463 --> 02:52:28,543
And I know our bandwidth is slim, but I do think it creates better partnership if we were to circle back with those.

2292
02:52:30,175 --> 02:52:33,976
participate in the parade, reaching out to them, letting them know that it's coming up.

2293
02:52:33,976 --> 02:52:35,615
Do you want to enter again?

2294
02:52:35,615 --> 02:52:37,775
Just creating more of that fullness.

2295
02:52:37,775 --> 02:52:43,495
I think that if we're going to be a full city, the expectation of all of our commissions participating into the parade,

2296
02:52:43,495 --> 02:52:49,335
I'd think is important to show exactly who we all are beyond just the council and the staff.

2297
02:52:49,335 --> 02:52:52,896
So I that should be some level of an expectation for all the commissions.

2298
02:52:52,896 --> 02:52:56,816
Especially because it is a way to engage and then we have this new arts and

2299
02:52:59,567 --> 02:53:06,567
what that looks like, the recreation with YMCA, let's put those kids in there with their branding and let the Y know this is what we do and this what

2300
02:53:06,567 --> 02:53:09,567
we're hoping that you can participate in.

2301
02:53:11,007 --> 02:53:17,868
people that tend to participate just reminding them, and we have no problem partnering with the school district, so as council member Grossey alluded to,

2302
02:53:17,868 --> 02:53:20,167
like why everyone graduates every single year,

2303
02:53:20,167 --> 02:53:22,007
so let's reach out and connect.

2304
02:53:22,007 --> 02:53:28,128
And I think that there's something to be said about just reaching out to those that are constantly always part of it to remind them that it is.

2305
02:53:28,128 --> 02:53:30,368
There's new organizations forming every day.

2306
02:53:30,368 --> 02:53:31,927
So I just think we should just.

2307
02:53:31,935 --> 02:53:37,456
That'll help, I mean I think the 10 additional groups was great, but we could probably have a lot full of pride and we have

2308
02:53:37,456 --> 02:53:40,976
a long strip and there's smaller towns doing it better than us and I

2309
02:53:40,976 --> 02:53:42,575
think that that's not cool.

2310
02:53:42,575 --> 02:53:49,855
So I I that there is ways of being able to make that more of a staple because it's been around for decades.

2311
02:53:49,855 --> 02:53:51,095
And so they know that it exists.

2312
02:53:51,095 --> 02:53:54,376
But I thing that reminding people and circling back would help us.

2313
02:53:55,896 --> 02:53:56,896
So yeah.

2314
02:53:56,896 --> 02:53:58,056
All right, thank you.

2315
02:53:58,056 --> 02:53:59,136
Any other comments?

2316
02:53:59,695 --> 02:54:06,656
Okay, thanks seeing that there's none Jack Marian. Thank you so much. I hope you got a lot of notes there

2317
02:54:07,855 --> 02:54:13,896
Lot of great ideas. All right, thank you. Alright with that said we'll move to item number 13 one or remind

2318
02:54:14,415 --> 02:54:15,615
Council that

2319
02:54:15,615 --> 02:54:21,456
We're gonna be in summer retreat. So there is no meeting after this is in the month of August

2320
02:54:21,896 --> 02:54:24,736
So if it's on your calendar delete it

2321
02:54:25,247 --> 02:54:29,247
and seeing that there's no business, further business before council, the council will stand

2322
02:54:29,247 --> 02:54:30,247
adjourned.