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I'm going to go ahead and call a meeting to order, please.

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I'm going to call this meeting to order at 6 p.m. This is a regular meeting. Can I have order in the house, please?

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Thank you. I'm going to call this meeting to order at 6 p.m. This is a regular meeting for Tuesday, October 1st, 2024. Madam Clerk, will you please take the role? I will. Tim Hale. Here. Stephanie Nowers. Here. Dean McKee. Here. Bill Gamble.

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Dmitry Fona, Ron Gurnier, Madam Mayor, you have a quorum.

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Thank you.

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Is there anything that any of the members would like to pull from the consent deputy mayor go ahead?

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I'd like to pull RS 24-078 and RS 24-105.

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Okay.

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Other members of the assembly want to pull anything?

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Assembly for some fauna go ahead.

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I'm sorry Assemblyperson Pondoff, I didn't hear what you were saying.

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I'd like to put one on six, the resolution one on six, one on six.

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Thank you.

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Can I get some people to stop talking about?

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Oh, can we have order, please, thank you.

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any other things that anybody would like to pull and change on the agenda.

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So now the

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agenda has been approved. If you'd all stand with me, please. And Madam Clerk, would

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you lead us on the point?

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which

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which expands one nation under God, individual,

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with liberty and justice for all.

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Thank you.

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The next item on our agenda is the meetings

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from previous meetings, the minutes from previous meetings,

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assembly, special meeting on the 10th of August of 24,

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assembly regular meeting of the 24th or the 20th

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on August of 24, the assembly regular meeting on September 3rd of 24, a joint assembly

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school board meeting on September 10th of 24, assembly regular meeting on September 10th

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of 24. Are there any changes to these minutes as presented?

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Seeing and hearing none, then the minutes are approved as presented.

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Let's, the next item on our agenda is do we have a report from any of the cities?

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Yeah, I do not see anybody.

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I know, I know you're all from the city, some place probably, but

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we have any report

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from the school district.

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Don't see anybody.

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Don't see Todd here for the state of Alaska.

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And there has not been a meeting of the assembly and school board on special issues, right?

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Okay, thank you.

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The next is assembly public relations.

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Does anybody have anything under public relations that they would like to stay?

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I have a couple of things.

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The Burrell today presented and was a program at Wasilla Chamber of Commerce.

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And I want to thank all of the directors that presented an outstanding job there at

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presenting where we are in the Burrell and the things that are going on in the Burrell.

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And I got many nice compliments afterwards.

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and so thank you manager Brown for putting that together and then we will be

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manager Brown and I will be doing an abbreviated presentation to the Palmer

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Chamber on the ninth which is next week and then also the Metzubero is one of

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sponsors for the economic summit that will be held on the 15th of

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October, and at that for the luncheon, the city manager, I mean the borough manager has presented

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a publication to present to those people that will be there at the summit regarding what's

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going on in the borough and the two ballot questions that we have for the borough and in dealing

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with the one ballot question regarding charter schools, we have made, like Brown has made

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arrangements for a one member of each one of the charter schools to come at that new

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time and give I think five minutes, right, presentation on the borough as well as the assembly,

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We can't take a position on those ballot questions, but we can present information, and so that's what we will be doing on the fifth date.

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So that's all I have under public relations. Mr. Brown, do you have a report for us?

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Yes, Madam Mayor. Thank you. And real quick for the assembly in your red folder is a flyer of the ballot proposition, specifically well or for.

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But it really allows you to see what roads were included in Prop 4 and what schools and information are in Prop 1

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So it's a reference for you if you're getting questions or calls from constituents

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I'll keep the report fairly short

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I ask our public affairs team to put together a short video of

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Construction activities this summer just to highlight some of the good work that's been done since the assembly doesn't get it to go out and see all of these different

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projects, try to pull it together in a visual way so that you can kind of get some sense

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for some of the things that were accomplished. So with that said, you wouldn't matter

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me. Clerk. Before a matter of a clerk, you start that.

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There are a couple seats up here in the front. Sorry, we're in a close, close smaller area

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because of the voting that's going on in the city of Palmer.

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Okay, and the directors are going to be moving into the staff room so there'll be some more seats back over here if you would like to sit.

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Thank you directors for doing that.

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Okay, go ahead Madam Clerk. Thank you for letting me interrupt you.

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is Point McKinsey in case you don't know where these pictures are coming from.

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Excellent. Thank you. That's all I have for the report tonight, Madam Mayor. Okay. Mr. Attorney, do you have a report? No, Madam Clerk. The Clerk's report is in your red folder. Also attached to the Clerk's report is the agenda for Thursday and then the Joint Assembly Planning Commission meeting for next Tuesday. And also every year in December, the Assembly is January. The Assembly to schedule the schedules on meeting with the state delegation. We'd like to suggest December 19th.

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It's a Thursday at 10 a.m.

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With that date, work for the assembly to meet with the state delegation at the LAO office.

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Comments?

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Yes, assembly person here will go ahead.

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I won't be here, but I don't think that'll be a problem.

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Any other comments from any of the assembly?

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Anybody checking their calendars?

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Any objections, Madam Clerk?

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That is it, Madam Mayor.

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Okay.

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The next item on our agenda is citizens and other correspondents.

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Are there any comments on the citizens and other correspondence from the assembly?

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Okay. I hear we none, and they are presented. Madam Clerk, would you read the IMs? Thank you. I am 24183 reporting conclusion of contract number 24029b with K&H civil constructors and the total contract amount of $473,876.70 for the Papu's Twins Road Improvement Project.

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Is there any comments?

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The next item we have is audience participation, this is the first audience participation.

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We have available in tonight's meeting.

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We do have a sign-up sheet, but even if you didn't sign up and you do want to testify

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at this time after we call on the people that have signed up, we will make it open to anybody

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else.

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And if there are resolutions, we do not have public hearing.

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So if there is a resolution that you're interested in and that you want to give the assembly

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comments on it, this would be the time for you to do it.

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And your comments will be limited to three minutes.

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and the Deputy Barrel Clerk will have a calendar, I mean, a timer, and you'll see it up on the overhand.

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So, first person that has signed up is Franklin Wong.

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Okay, did you want to come, sir?

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And Mr. Wong, can I get you to press the button on the mic there, and you'll see it turn green.

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There you go, you're good.

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I just wanted to ask a question.

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I've lived on Grandview Road for 34 years, and I live in the Bradley Lakes subdivision,

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and we've had snow removal service for all of them years until three years ago, and they're

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going to put a new Grandview Road in, but they stopped it at my property line and put a

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of maintenance ends here and for the last three years has cost me over $2,400 to have

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snow removal and twice I've been this past year I was stuck in my house for four days

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because we couldn't get out and had to hire a loader to come and plow the road and get

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us out of our yard and my wife and I are at both in our 70s and I just want to know when

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I know they can give me a snow removal service again.

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I need to have you first of all state your name for the room.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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That's okay.

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Frank Wall.

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I flew for the Coast Guard for 21 years.

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Thank you for your service.

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So there, we have the staff that are in there.

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I'm sure one of the staff will can meet with you and give you some answers.

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Go speak to them.

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You can go in there now if you want to.

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or afterwards. Okay. All right. All right. Thank you, sir. Julie.

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My name is Julie

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Pollard. I am in favor of the resolution 24-105. I think it would be we need to

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be reminded of where we come from and so to our children.

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I hope that when it gets brought

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up, that way it will pass. Thank you. Thank you.

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And Lauren, what would you say there, yes?

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Carrow?

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Carrow.

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Carrow as close.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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My name is Lauren Carrow.

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I live in Buckshot Drive on Palmer.

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Within the Connect Community Council area.

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Connect River Community Council area.

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Thank you for the opportunity to comment.

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I urge the assembly to adopt resolution 24-078

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as presented, keeping all three options available.

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In late 2008, I became a member of the Connect River Comprehensive Planning Team.

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I had lived in the area for over 30, or almost, I've lived in the area for

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almost 30 years and have seen a lot of change.

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The team included home stethers, newer residents, and

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the original owner manager of the Connect River Lodge.

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In February of 2009, we sent out a survey to all area residents, and

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and we use the results of this survey to guide the process.

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For over two years, we met twice a month, riding the drought-

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All meetings were open to the public and the interested residents besides the planning team were present at almost every meeting. Anyone was allowed to comment and provide input. It was a very open, grassroots, grassroots, excuse me, process. The plan was presented to the community council and voted on, presented to the borough and finally passed in 2014.

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As written, it has no teeth. It has no means of enforcement. Formation of a special use

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district is a natural outcome and next step in the process. The proposed resolution

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allows each community council to choose between options to form a draft spud. This allows

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each council to decide how much assistance they might need and who will develop the spud

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specifics. Maximum community input will be guiding

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Spud Development. Any resident of a community council area may attend the community council

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meetings and vote on the proceedings before it. Option 3 offers the most restrictive community

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input in the draft Spud by limiting the advisory board to people appointed by the mayor and assembly.

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Although a suggested makeup of the board is included, it is also noted that feasibility

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of such a makeup is to determine by whoever the mayor is at the time.

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Nothing in the ordinance, and I quote, obligates the mayor to make specific appointments.

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I strongly believe that to limit the spread development choice to just option three, eliminating

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the other two options would be a serious mistake.

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It would not just eliminate community council choice, but limit initial community involvement

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and to put it too much power in the hand of the political appointees and electors, excuse me,

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who probably do not live in the district.

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Adopting the resolution with all three options allows this necessary process to go forward

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with the fullest measure of community involvement.

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Thank you.

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Crystal Roberts?

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Thank you for the opportunity to speak today.

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My name is Crystal Roberts, and I move to the Maxu Valley in 1993.

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I have some concerning with the wording in a couple areas of the proposed community council process for

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developing a community comprehensive plan or special use district in the MSB document.

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On page two, under option one, section B at state's community council conducts outreach to the property owners and

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residents within its boundaries regarding the initiation and progress associated with creating

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a plan or a spud.

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It concerns me that this isn't listed first before any proposal can be formed.

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It also concerns me that outreach isn't clearly defined.

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The South Connect River Community Council was able to initiate the formation of a special

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use district without any community outreach.

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When the council was confronted with angry community members, those community members were told that they should have attended monthly meetings if they had wanted a voice.

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Outreach should be defined as a valid attempt to not only reach out to each member of the community, but to take into account whether this is something that the majority wants.

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My other concern is with the wording, property owners and residents.

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Our community council has stripped property owners of the right to vote on community matters and less they are also residents.

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Someone renting or leasing in the area can have a voice in decision concerning the community.

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But mere property owners cannot if they do not live there.

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I believe this should be redefined as property owners and or residents, or even property owners who reside in the community if that is the intention.

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simply saying landowners and residents leave some doubt as to the intention.

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With this current wording, I believe that our community council should be forced to allow landowners to have a voice in matters that clearly affect the land that they are paying taxes on, even if not residing on.

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This same paragraph is included in option two, on page three listed under D. Again, I feel that this should be listed first, a community as a whole should have a voice.

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In the creation of a special use district from the beginning of the initiation process,

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there isn't similar wording included in option three at all.

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This is also a concern to me for the previously mentioned reasons.

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I've been a property owner and resident in my community for 30 years.

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We chose our land for the very reason.

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Thank you for your presence, that a special use district could potentially threaten. Please do not give power to a community council to inflict their residents with rules and regulations without protecting the voice of tax paying owners within their boundaries. Thank you.

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Thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak. My name is Millie Tormi. I've lived

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in the Matsubaro for several years. The subject of the special use district has become

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very important to me and my family. As our community council, the South Connect River

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community council is able to initiate the formation of a special use district in my

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community without any outreach to the best of my knowledge to the residents of the community.

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I feel that before the assembly can vote to accept the documents that outline the three choices

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for forming the slide some changes need to be made to the document. Getting a majority of the

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land owners in agreement should be the very first step of each of the three options. If this is not

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not achieve the community council should not be able to proceed.

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In the case of the South Connect River Community Council, I feel that the initiation process

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should have to start over and only proceed if the majority of the landowners are in agreement.

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Our council does not allow landowners to have a vote in the process unless they are also

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read residents.

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I feel that as taxpayers on the property and question, they should have a voice.

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In permanent rules and regulations being considered by a community council, please consider

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the wording of each of the three options to protect land owners from decisions made

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by the community council.

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Not only should outreach be the first step, but even the term outreach should be clearly

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defined to ensure that steps are taken to reach a majority vote before the council can proceed

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with selecting an option.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Jackie.

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Good evening, Madam Mayor and Assembly Members and Manager Brown.

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My name is Jackie Goforth.

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I have in my possession the answer from our Attorney General to the Palmer Query when

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they asked about those books.

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They asked specifically about books.

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It was answered back in June.

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And part of it says a robust public debate should be had about whether a community wants

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these books available to children and teens in their public or school libraries.

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communities can and should make tailored decisions about what material is available and to whom

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it is available in taxpayer-funded libraries. Parents should then make decisions regarding

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their own children based upon what the community has chosen to make available in those libraries.

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And I didn't give you a copy because every time I give too many copies I overstep my time,

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so I'll try not to do that. Now, I want you to know in the last month

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I have been speaking with librarians in the valley. This book was pulled and moved to the

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adult section in Willow.

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This book was moved to the adult section in Sutton.

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This book was moved to the adult section in Trapper Creek.

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This book and the eight that go with it were also

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moved to the adult section.

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And the reason why is the letter you have in front of you

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from Palmer.

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I challenged this book, Empire of Storms.

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It's from a series called Throne of Glass.

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I challenged it in Palmer and in Los Angeles and in Willow.

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The reason why is it's in the young adult section and it contains a 19 year old and

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as you can see a lot of concerning sections.

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The letter I got back says that Bloomsbury publishing reprinted this title.

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They took the children's imprint off of it and it's now in the adult section.

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So the publisher is now moving books to the adult section.

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Publishers are moving books to the adult section.

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This book and the eight books, seven books to go with it, moved in Palmer and they moved

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in Wasilla and I believe they're moving in the valley also.

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Oh, wait, wait.

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I'd like to know, to let you know what happens when you challenge one of these books with

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a librarian.

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Your treat it as though your brain cells haven't passed the amoeba stage, okay?

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And when I did tell her that I wanted to speak about this book because it was in the young

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adult section she said I was misinformed because it's not it's in the adult

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section and I want people to know that when I first made up my list which you

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have I took screenshots of all the books okay that was last year and so I

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apologized because I hadn't looked to see if I had if it had been changed so what

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I want you to know and ask

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If moving a book from the young adult section, children, two adults is book banning, didn't

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a publisher just ban books, and don't librarians ban, didn't these three librarians just ban

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books? Four, if you can't. Seriously, it's not book banning, it's trying to protect children

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just like the labels on the music and on movies and on every other indecent material is.

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Thank you for your time.

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I want to thank you for setting up the Library Citizens Advisory Committee

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and especially for assembly men, fun, off, and burnier and assembly lady, McKee,

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for working to bring it forward. It was a wise and courageous decision.

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I believe it needs some tweaking.

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On two of the challenge books, the committee voted unanimously that there was no redeeming

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quality in either identical or red hood and the committee majority voted to have them

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removed from the library.

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My question is why are they still in the library?

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When the library citizens advisory committee reads these vulgar evil books, it isn't an easy

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task by any means.

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Then they vote, and the majority gets completely ignored.

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I feel as a tax-paying citizen that my voice is still not heard on this issue, and I feel the committee members who have to read this smut and vote and vote, and their vote seems irrelevant.

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I don't want the adult section of the libraries turned into a vile adult bookstore with our tax funds.

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the book should be removed like the committee voted.

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Anyone fighting to keep books in our libraries

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that aren't even worth the paper they are printed on,

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these people have questionable character

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and should not be running our libraries.

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Their paychecks come from taxpayer funds.

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They work for the taxpayer.

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here.

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Also, I am in favor of RS-24-105. I think it's a wonderful idea and educational.

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Thank you so much.

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Karen?

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Assembly, everybody. I'm all for what our founding fathers founded our nation upon. I'd like

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to read a few things. Our first US President George Washington said, do not let anyone claim

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tribute to American patriotism if they even attempt to remove religion from politics.

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Thomas Jefferson said, God, who gave us life, gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation

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be thought secure when we remove their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people

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that these liberties are a gift of God, that they are not to be violated, but with his wrath.

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Indeed, I tremble from my country when I reflect that God is just, that is just as cannot sleep forever.

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He also said, this is Thomas Jefferson, the first amendment has created a wall of separation between church and state,

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but that wall is the one way directional wall.

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It keeps government from running the church, but it makes sure that Christian principles will always stand government.

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Here's one from George Mason who is a delegate to the Constitutional Convention and called

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the father of the U.S. Bill of Rights.

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The laws of nature are laws are the laws of God whose authority can be superseded by

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no power on earth.

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Patrick Henry, the modifier of the U.S. Constitution, it cannot be emphasized too strongly or too

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often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians, not

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unreligion, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ.

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Thomas Paine, writer and revolutionary leader.

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The cause of America is in a great measure, the cause of all mankind.

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Where say some is the king of America?

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I'll tell you, brand, he reigns above.

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Patrick Henry, member of the first Continental Congress and Governor of Virginia.

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The great pillars of all government are virtue, morality, and religion.

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This is the arm of my friend and this alone that renders us invincible.

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John Jay, who is the first justice of the United States Supreme Court, providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.

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Benjamin Franklin, constitutional convention delegate and signer of the Constitution and Declaration of Independence. I have lived a long time, and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth.

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that God governs in the affairs of men.

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And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice,

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is it probable that an empire can rise without his aid?

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George Washington, okay.

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Karen, Karen, I need your name.

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I'm so sorry, I was Karen Lewis.

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Thank you.

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Joe Irvine?

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My name is Joe Irvine.

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I'm a vice president of the Fischer Community Council and normally I would ask for five minutes,

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but we haven't had a meeting in our bylaws state that you have to have permission of the meeting of the body to claim the five minutes to speak for them.

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So I'm speaking for myself, but I am the vice president of the Fischer Community Council and I've been active as a secretary for the last 20 plus years in that capacity.

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Before I start, I would like to give a shout out to some of the boroughs staff that we work with and I have worked with over the years.

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I've found them always to be very helpful and return phone calls in a timely manner or at least answer even right then.

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So I'd like to call out specifically Joe Metzger, these are planning, planning, community development folks.

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Once again, Joel Metzger, Julie Speckman, Rodney Fodge, Natasha, I'm not sure of her last name,

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Heindel, and Hugh Leslie, those folks have worked personally with in the last few months,

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and they've been very helpful.

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So in 2013, we started our community council comp plan process, and it took us three years

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to do it.

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We reached out to the community and asked for volunteers to serve on the committee.

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We have 33 people volunteer and no one was rejected.

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We let everybody participate.

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We had a meeting every month for three years before we finally got our comp plan finalized.

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So, in the end, we had about 17 people that consistently stayed in attendance, but it was

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come and go for three years.

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I mean, you can understand how it would be hard to get people to every month come for

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three years.

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But right now, we are in the process of looking at revising this complaint or creating a

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but because I'm sure you might know it that we are being inundated, I shouldn't say inundated,

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but we're one of the fastest, if not the fastest growing community in the borough and we have

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more subdivisions, more four plexes, detached four plexes, we have three giant recreational areas

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in our area. So people really want to move here. So I would like to recommend that you leave

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in the three options in RS-24-078 because it gives our community we did

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basically option two and it worked out tremendously so I would definitely not

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want you to remove options to. So I'm in favor of leaving all three options in place

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and let the communities decide which option they're going to use for a

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Spud or a Conplan. Thank you. Thank you. Andy.

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Mayor DeBrees and members of the

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Assembly. My name is Andy Couch. I'm the chairman of the Matsu Burial

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Fish and Wildlife Commission.

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Assembly Member Gamble had a resolution 24107

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that I would ask you to support, it's on the consent agenda and it would urge the

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Yeah.

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Board of Fisheries to consider two different agenda change requests, and those agenda change requests are to consider

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Susitna drainage, the whole drainage Chinook salmon population is a stock of yield concern. And the yield from that population has dropped.

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I don't have the exact figure, but it's over 90 percent since the early 2000s.

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And that was sent to the Board of Fisheries by the Bureau of Fish and Wildlife Commission.

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And then there's another agenda change request in there, too, that was sent by the legislative

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delegation for the Matsu Valley and that would designate Little Susitna River

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Koosamon as a stock of yield concern. It's measured by the in-river sport

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fishery and the in-river sport fishery harvest has declined by I believe it is

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84% according to the agenda change request and I looked at those numbers and

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And that seemed to be right about where it was.

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And that was from early 2000s to now.

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Those familiar with sport fishing in the Valley know that there was very little opportunity

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to fish for King Salmon or to harvest coho salmon this year.

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And a little sassetna had not this year because they don't have the figures yet, but last year

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It had the lowest sport harvest on records since the state started doing harvest survey

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estimates in 1977, so all this would do is make a designation and then the department

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efficiently would be, well first off the board would have to, the board of fisheries would

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have to say yes, we'll hear these agenda change requests. And then if the board said yes,

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we agree with these, then an action plan would have to be developed for each as to how

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to bring back that yield from those two fisheries. Thank you. If you have any questions, I'd

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Thank you Anthony Nichols evening

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I'm Tony nice to meet you all I'm done

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South Kinnick River especially yeah sorry I came to talk about the

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special use district area I moved in there about two and a half years ago

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started going to community council meetings I figured I'd clear up a couple of

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things maybe give you guys some info from the inside perspective on there I'm

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pretty individualized liberty. I don't think we should tell people what they

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should be doing with their properties, per se, including business owners. Some

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of them earlier. But some things have been coming around. A lot of rumors have

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been getting spread and a lot of people have been kind of slinging mud left and

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right going on down that road. So there was absolutely an attempt by that

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community council to let everybody know. And I would know because I've been attending

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most of those meetings, I work an average of 70 hours a week, sometimes 80 hours

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a week. I have a new child. I am exhausted. I study 20 hours a week at a minimum for my job.

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Just to maintain my current education requirements and to maintain proficiency,

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I was still able to make it over to 50% of those council meetings going on down there.

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So that being said, if they were not in the know, that was kind of on them. The one thing that I will

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state that a lot of people seem to be very upset about. I think Tim was there on the meeting where I was

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It was also very upset about it, not to apologize to people for.

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Special use district, that was the term that came out.

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Most people thought they were talking about the public use area down at the beginning of that road.

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When they found out that it was essentially zoning requirements, as initiated by the community council,

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that's where most people seemed to get upset with this.

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So I think, I don't know why it's called a spud.

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I don't know why they didn't just state it was zoning.

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I would say that's probably the biggest part of your issue and a big huge chunk of the drama that's going on involving that

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As for the lodge and everything else that seems to be the the crux of the issue going on down there

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I would say the lodge needs to come down to the community council meeting

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Talk to them talk to the people that are having concerns with them

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There is concerns of abuse going on by the lodge right now and with their helicopter business

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That's what's causing a lot of the drama going in there that being said

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That community council I don't think was doing anything to try and be underhanded involving in this. They have absolutely taken public testimony at every single meeting that I have gone to with them. There has not been anything. Every question that I have asked since I have been there, they have answered quickly and to the best of their ability and anytime they've had to get back to me, they have gotten back to me promptly. I don't believe there's any abuse. I personally would like to see all three options on the ballot. I think that gives everyone else involved in the area.

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better say and what's going on and for the other guys down there at the

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lodge I think if they actually came down and did some diplomacy they might be

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able to get a better outcome that's amicable for everybody in terms of

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solving that issue that's pretty much all I have to say thank you

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for

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your

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and I am with Big Lake Trails.

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It's in Resolution 24-099.

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Big Lake Trails is a nonprofit 5013C

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with members and followers tolling over 4,500.

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I'd like to encourage the Matt Superl assembly

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to pass a resolution to keep the Alaska Long Trail

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and National Scenic Trail designation

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off Matt Superl Trails.

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By designating the Alaska Long Trails

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as a national scenic designation

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and it will create federal overreach on that Subaru Trails.

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Let's keep it the Alaska way of life and play.

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So many people use some machines to access their homes

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and recreational remote cabins.

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So please vote no and say no to the Alaska long trail.

440
00:46:54,050 --> 00:46:54,750
That's it.

441
00:46:54,990 --> 00:46:55,710
Thank you very much.

442
00:46:56,110 --> 00:46:56,970
Thank you.

443
00:46:57,950 --> 00:46:59,130
Mary Robinson.

444
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:05,300
Good evening.

445
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,000
Mary Robinson, Borough resident, and I represent myself.

446
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:19,400
Tonight I'm going to speak against resolution 24-05 and against the applicant for the Matzu Library Advisory Board.

447
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:30,900
Looking over paperwork for upcoming elections, mayor, assembly, school board, city councils, there is absolutely no mention of religious affiliation.

448
00:47:31,620 --> 00:47:35,760
Freedom without favor, equality without exception.

449
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:41,880
I'm bewildered why religion continues to wind its way through the Matsu Burrow Boards,

450
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,040
commissions, and assembly.

451
00:47:44,740 --> 00:47:49,080
Mayor DeVries, Matsu Burrow Bio, state she attends King's Chapel.

452
00:47:49,780 --> 00:47:57,840
Mr. Yant's going away gift was to carve out $100,000 from the 2025 Matsu Burrow budget for

453
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,340
a waterline for King's Chapel Extension.

454
00:48:00,340 --> 00:48:06,320
Deputy Mayor Bernier twisted himself into knots to appoint his pastor and friend from

455
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:12,020
outside of District 7 to the Matsu Burrow Library Citizen Advisory Committee.

456
00:48:13,060 --> 00:48:19,940
Deputy Mayor Bernier completely ignored the 13 people that applied for the Burrow Library

457
00:48:19,940 --> 00:48:26,480
Citizen Advisory Committee because he knew that the Talkiitna 13, as we've started to call

458
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:32,520
them, had an agenda, and did they even believe in God. The first meeting of the Matsu

459
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:38,240
Burrow Library Citizen Advisory Committee was barred for the first couple of minutes prior

460
00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:45,980
to the 5 p.m. meeting, because Mayor DeVries was giving a tour to her prayer group. All

461
00:48:45,980 --> 00:48:54,680
well and good in of itself, no problem. I just bewildered why religion continues to be

462
00:48:54,680 --> 00:49:03,120
such a part of the burrow when some of us have no religious affiliation, did any other

463
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:08,820
churches receive money from the burrow budget for a waterline extension or any infrastructure?

464
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:15,700
Devoting significant resources in time to an issue that could be construed as partisan.

465
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:21,620
To governments he gives the power of the sword, to churches he gives the power of the keys.

466
00:49:21,620 --> 00:49:28,960
Yet, to none of the parties, does God give the authority to coerce true worship or criminalize false worship?

467
00:49:29,380 --> 00:49:35,040
It all comes back to intent, how are government officials using the platform that they've been given?

468
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:41,540
To affect temporary change in a physical world or permanent change in an internal soul?

469
00:49:41,980 --> 00:49:50,340
Again, I am against Resolution 24-05 and I am against the applicant for the Matsu Library Advisory Board. Thank you.

470
00:49:50,340 --> 00:49:51,940
Thank you.

471
00:49:57,430 --> 00:49:59,910
Okay Lisa next.

472
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:00,980
Hi.

473
00:50:11,690 --> 00:50:40,370
Good evening. I've never attended assembly meeting. I think there's a lot of people tonight that haven't. So you're probably in a very similar situation. So go ahead. Thank you, Madam Mayor. And thank you to my community for showing up. And it's because of members of our community that I'm here. Tim, you're one of them. I know you don't know me, but I just started going to the connect, the South Connect River Community Council.

474
00:50:40,370 --> 00:50:48,870
meetings. And I'm here to discuss something that I have no authority to speaking about, the

475
00:50:48,870 --> 00:50:55,510
Spud, the Comprehensive Plan. I guess we're supposed to be voting on the three columns here.

476
00:50:56,210 --> 00:51:02,350
And I just, the wording of it in general, I know it's up to us to inform ourselves and that's the problem.

477
00:51:02,410 --> 00:51:07,590
When you go to websites and you're trying to read things, you don't quite always get your questions

478
00:51:08,210 --> 00:51:13,990
So when you show up in person, though, to community council meetings and things like this, I think we find a lot more information.

479
00:51:14,550 --> 00:51:20,970
So I am trying to be informed, but I do think I'm very ignorant when it comes to most everything that we have to vote on.

480
00:51:21,470 --> 00:51:29,150
And the wording here, like option one, limited assistance from MSB staff, option two, moderate assistance from MSB staff.

481
00:51:29,310 --> 00:51:34,590
And then option three, it says in-depth formal assistance from MSB staff.

482
00:51:34,590 --> 00:51:39,690
So option three basically means us, the community, has no say.

483
00:51:40,470 --> 00:51:45,350
Option three is going to make sure that our voices aren't heard from my understanding.

484
00:51:45,690 --> 00:51:48,330
I would love somebody to explain to me, you know, better than that.

485
00:51:48,690 --> 00:51:53,090
But bottom line for me, I don't have a lot of time to look into every single word and every

486
00:51:53,090 --> 00:51:55,810
single document that I'm getting and understand it all.

487
00:51:56,230 --> 00:52:01,550
And so I'm voting that we keep all three options if that's what I'm here to vote on today.

488
00:52:02,110 --> 00:52:12,430
Because I feel as though the community needs to say and the community needs to be informed and I believe that the outreach that we have right now does not help us be informed.

489
00:52:12,590 --> 00:52:16,490
And it's a matter of fact, it fills us with our own judgments like, oh, I didn't read enough.

490
00:52:16,630 --> 00:52:19,950
Oh, I wasn't informed enough. But where do we get this information?

491
00:52:20,650 --> 00:52:25,530
We don't have, you know, 20 hours every day to look into this stuff.

492
00:52:25,530 --> 00:52:55,450
We have 20 minutes maybe, and so I would like us to do a better outreach from our community members, our leaders, our community in general, the way we help each other is by talking about this stuff and making sure it's not convoluted or it's not being hidden, or there's an agenda being hidden, people are scared, and they want to use their voices, but a lot of times they're scared to use their voices, just like me right now, I do not public speak at all ever, but I just, I'm really passionate that we have our

493
00:52:55,450 --> 00:53:00,290
options in front of us and that we have our choices and we're allowed to use our voices

494
00:53:00,290 --> 00:53:05,430
and not be lied to our gas lit or whatever else is out there. But know what the facts are,

495
00:53:05,730 --> 00:53:10,430
know what the actual vote is about. I don't even know what this vote is about. There's three options.

496
00:53:10,930 --> 00:53:14,950
I don't think the third option should be the only option. I don't think that the third option

497
00:53:14,950 --> 00:53:21,010
should be like you as the mayor get to make up the minds for our community when we haven't even had

498
00:53:21,010 --> 00:53:25,470
voice. You know we need choices and we need to have a voice about it and we need to be informed

499
00:53:25,470 --> 00:53:35,630
and outreach needs to be better. Thank you. Lisa Nash. Lisa Nash. You did very well. So be encouraged.

500
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:50,440
John Traumane. T-R-E-M-A-Y-N-E. Okay.

501
00:53:53,180 --> 00:53:56,560
Hello everyone. My name is John Traumane and I represent

502
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:02,960
adult and teen challenge in Wastella and Houston I just wanted to speak a

503
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,880
little bit to all of you and thank you for the opportunity to serve with the

504
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:12,080
borough in our cash for cleanup program it's really been a lot a lot of work

505
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,860
but it's really been a real blessing to our students as well as some of the

506
00:54:15,860 --> 00:54:21,740
people in the community it gives us a chance to go out in the community and to

507
00:54:21,740 --> 00:54:29,040
recognize you know people's veterans elderly basically recognize their needs

508
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:34,180
and it's a chance for us to serve through our ministry share the word if

509
00:54:34,180 --> 00:54:40,420
that's what they need and just move forward and I would really like to see some

510
00:54:40,420 --> 00:54:46,700
kind of a a winter program that involves the veterans and involves the senior

511
00:54:46,700 --> 00:54:53,460
citizens especially in the outline areas to receive our services. And so if you

512
00:54:53,460 --> 00:54:59,360
all could like do what you all do and make it happen, that'd be great. I'm

513
00:54:59,360 --> 00:54:59,860
not a great speaker.

514
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,180
Here, but I appreciate y'all. Thank you. Thank you.

515
00:55:22,330 --> 00:55:27,130
She'll straighten us out here. Hi. Hi. I'm Gretchen Kym. I'm a resident district one.

516
00:55:28,130 --> 00:55:33,150
I've lived in the valley for half of my life and I have a, I wanted to state my

517
00:55:33,150 --> 00:55:38,210
opposition to Mr. Barener's proposal to display the ten amendments.

518
00:55:41,630 --> 00:55:45,650
I'm ready to voice my position to Mr. Barener's proposal for displaying the ten commandments.

519
00:55:45,930 --> 00:55:49,510
The Magna Carta, the Mayflower Compact, and the Declaration of Independence.

520
00:55:50,390 --> 00:55:54,890
The Prambal of the U.S. Constitution and the Prambal to the Alaska Constitution in Masoop

521
00:55:54,890 --> 00:55:59,330
Public Libraries and in the lobby of the Manus-Gustit number of buildings.

522
00:56:00,070 --> 00:56:04,670
Mr. Berner has stated that he was inspired by recent laws passed in Louisiana that ordered

523
00:56:04,670 --> 00:56:09,090
the ten commandments to be displayed in public school classrooms, and the only reason the

524
00:56:09,090 --> 00:56:12,490
other doctrines are included is not to open up the burn administration to legal action.

525
00:56:13,230 --> 00:56:19,290
Looking beyond the preamble of the U.S. Constitution of First Amendment, which states, Congress shall

526
00:56:19,290 --> 00:56:23,550
make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,

527
00:56:23,770 --> 00:56:27,970
or bridging the freedom of speech or of the press, or the right of people to peacefully

528
00:56:27,970 --> 00:56:33,270
of symbol and to petition the government for a readiness of grievances.

529
00:56:34,450 --> 00:56:39,450
Posting the 10 Commandments can easily be perceived as an informal establishment of religion

530
00:56:39,890 --> 00:56:44,370
by which the residents of the MSB may expect government operations to be guided by.

531
00:56:44,990 --> 00:56:48,930
Well, this may be a comfort to some folks whose belief system incorporates the 10 Commandments.

532
00:56:49,330 --> 00:56:52,970
It is exclusive to where residents who don't consider themselves to be Christian.

533
00:56:53,910 --> 00:56:58,850
This includes people considering themselves the atheist, agnostic, Jewish, Muslim, Sikh, Hindu,

534
00:56:59,010 --> 00:57:00,410
pagan, or any other belief system.

535
00:57:01,170 --> 00:57:05,730
All members of our community have to be to feel and be included in the conduct of our

536
00:57:05,730 --> 00:57:10,110
government without concern of bias for one belief system or prejudice towards their own.

537
00:57:11,170 --> 00:57:14,290
I'm a lifelong last and I've lived with the MSB for more than half my life.

538
00:57:14,510 --> 00:57:17,370
During that time I've seen the diversity that continues to grow in our communities.

539
00:57:17,970 --> 00:57:22,050
This diversity brings this new business like international grocery stores or ethnic

540
00:57:22,050 --> 00:57:26,730
restaurants. It brings diversity of thought of new ideas and new ways and ways to solve

541
00:57:26,730 --> 00:57:32,610
old problems. It allows us to learn from each other in many ways and to its grants of life

542
00:57:33,150 --> 00:57:37,630
a bit differently than we're used to. The separation of church and state is a strongly

543
00:57:37,630 --> 00:57:42,430
held American and Alaskan value. To allow the ten commandments to be posted as a violation of

544
00:57:42,430 --> 00:57:47,210
this value and is simply an American and an Alaskan. People have a great right to not practice or

545
00:57:47,210 --> 00:57:51,150
practice the religion of a choice but that religion has no place in government. Thank you.

546
00:57:52,050 --> 00:57:52,750
Thank you.

547
00:57:56,130 --> 00:57:56,750
Okay.

548
00:57:57,650 --> 00:57:58,770
Randall Wilber.

549
00:58:06,660 --> 00:58:07,280
Excuse me.

550
00:58:07,620 --> 00:58:08,640
My name is Randall Wilber.

551
00:58:09,660 --> 00:58:12,500
I just want to say thank you for the opportunity to share.

552
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:18,700
I appreciate the humility that you guys have to display on a regular basis, having your

553
00:58:18,700 --> 00:58:21,640
perspectives questioned and poked and prodded.

554
00:58:22,380 --> 00:58:27,160
I want to say thank you to Assemblymember Fawnoff for the opportunity.

555
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:34,900
I would like to share my support for 24-106, the partnership with the borough and adult

556
00:58:34,900 --> 00:58:35,620
and teen challenge.

557
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:41,540
We are a program that helps people that struggle with drug and alcohol addictions, and

558
00:58:41,540 --> 00:58:48,120
the partnership with the borough, I think it's just a good fit for the borough.

559
00:58:48,540 --> 00:58:51,620
We're providing a service that is needed.

560
00:58:51,620 --> 00:58:56,600
There's a lot of opportunity to help pour back into the communities.

561
00:58:57,220 --> 00:59:05,760
For our students, some of which are here this evening, addiction causes a lot of damage

562
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:09,040
to themselves personally and also to family and community.

563
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:17,660
And so an opportunity to partner with the borough to provide the opposite and to bring healing

564
00:59:17,660 --> 00:59:19,460
and good things.

565
00:59:19,460 --> 00:59:26,860
I think it's just such a positive thing, and I just want to fully support that resolution

566
00:59:26,860 --> 00:59:29,080
and appreciate what you guys do, so thank you.

567
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:38,260
So that concludes the number of people that signed up, but we will now open it up to

568
00:59:38,260 --> 00:59:42,920
anybody that hasn't spoken yet, and good

569
00:59:46,020 --> 00:59:48,760
evening, Madam Mayor Assembly, I'm Kathy Kaiser.

570
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:55,160
You will see on the vacancy report that it states that Adam Jenkins resigned from the Matsubar library board.

571
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:57,380
That's not exactly what happened.

572
00:59:58,060 --> 00:59:59,820
At our last board meeting on September

573
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,980
Number 10th in Talketna. The board voted to remove Adam Jenkins because he had never attended a single meeting since his appointment by the mayor. According to the Burrow Code 4.05.030, this removal meets both two and six under Section B. It states, a vacancy occurs on the board when, too, a confirmed appointee fails to qualify and assume the duties of office within 30 counter days of confirmation and six. The board member is absent from more than three

574
01:00:29,980 --> 01:00:35,480
consecutive board meetings, and the respective board requests the removal in writing to the assembly.

575
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,600
Since I was acting chair at the meeting because our chair was out of the country,

576
01:00:40,140 --> 01:00:45,520
I wrote the letter to the assembly and hand delivered it to the clerk's office last Thursday around 4.30 p.m.

577
01:00:45,980 --> 01:00:53,980
You will notice in the attachments to the vacancy report that Adam Jenkins sent his notice of resignation via email to the mayor at 8.30 p.m.

578
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,340
Four hours after I submitted the request to have him removed.

579
01:00:57,340 --> 01:01:03,720
Now, either this is a grand coincidence, or the mayor contacted Mr. Jenkins and asked him to submit his resignation.

580
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:11,040
Not so coincidentally, having him resign looks much better on record than having him removed, and so it goes.

581
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:22,080
I just want to do the assembly to understand what really happened and know that the mayor is now directly appointing someone to take his place without allowing for any time for additional applications.

582
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:28,180
You may remember me telling you several months ago that Mr. Jenkins had never even stepped foot in the willow library

583
01:01:28,180 --> 01:01:31,820
which he was representing until after his appointment to the board.

584
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,980
As Shakespeare would say, something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

585
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:42,760
So now I ask you not to rubber stamp the mayor's appointment of the new representative Mark Spahn to the library board.

586
01:01:43,300 --> 01:01:51,100
Please wait for the residents of the willow area and advocates of the willow library to be informed of this vacancy and give them time to submit applications.

587
01:01:51,100 --> 01:01:55,100
Mr. Spahn has not proven himself as a library advocate.

588
01:01:55,620 --> 01:01:57,660
In fact, he's done quite the opposite.

589
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,280
If you continue to rubber stamp these appointments by the mayor,

590
01:02:01,460 --> 01:02:05,180
you will be responsible for the continued denigration of the library board,

591
01:02:05,500 --> 01:02:10,140
which is supposed to be, according to Barrow Code, filled with library advocates.

592
01:02:10,820 --> 01:02:14,240
I'd also like to invite you to watch the recording of our last board meeting,

593
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,980
the audience participation period in particular,

594
01:02:16,980 --> 01:02:26,540
where you will hear numerous Taokitna residents express their disappointment in the appointment of pastor Chad Scott to the chair position on the Library Citizens Advisory Committee.

595
01:02:27,020 --> 01:02:31,420
Remember me telling you that he proudly doesn't even have a library card?

596
01:02:32,260 --> 01:02:37,840
I ask you to please listen to what all of your constituents are saying, not just those you go to church with.

597
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,060
Anyone else would like to address you, Assembly?

598
01:02:51,730 --> 01:02:57,750
I fully support as a member of the community resolution 24-106 the borough's

599
01:02:57,750 --> 01:03:01,350
partnership with adult and teen challenge not only as a member of the

600
01:03:01,350 --> 01:03:06,030
community but I personally went through the program I was the first graduate

601
01:03:06,030 --> 01:03:12,230
for the Matsu Valley for adult and teen challenge and I strongly support this

602
01:03:12,230 --> 01:03:16,410
partnership with the Matsu borough and adult and teen challenge it would give

603
01:03:16,410 --> 01:03:21,950
benefits both ways. It's a great opportunity for them to get involved in the

604
01:03:21,950 --> 01:03:28,550
community to understand from the burrow standpoint a lot of things and it's a

605
01:03:28,550 --> 01:03:32,170
benefit for the Matsu burrow and the assembly to also get involved with adult

606
01:03:32,170 --> 01:03:37,730
and teen challenge on what exactly they do just to emphasize on what their

607
01:03:37,730 --> 01:03:42,030
director said. They're not just a drug and alcohol treatment facility. They're

608
01:03:42,030 --> 01:03:49,130
We're actually the first 2.1 inpatient treatment center for the state of Alaska, so they take

609
01:03:49,130 --> 01:03:56,630
anybody with drug, alcohol, homelessness, addiction, domestic violence, sexual abuse,

610
01:03:57,170 --> 01:04:03,870
anybody that's been has some type of an addiction, or is needing rehabilitation, and they're treated

611
01:04:03,870 --> 01:04:05,590
from a psychological standpoint.

612
01:04:05,590 --> 01:04:12,790
point. They're certified drug and alcohol counselor is not just a CDC. She's also has

613
01:04:12,790 --> 01:04:19,450
her master's in psychology. And so it's a great benefit all the way around. And so I strongly

614
01:04:19,450 --> 01:04:23,770
support the partnership with the borough and teen challenge. It's something you guys will

615
01:04:23,770 --> 01:04:26,770
not regret. Thank you. Thank you.

616
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:38,720
So I have no prepared remarks, but I would just like to hear your name. Yes, it's Jeff Smith.

617
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:45,660
Okay so I have no prepared remarks but I've come here and I've heard a band of

618
01:04:45,660 --> 01:04:51,640
charlatans and demagogues up here try to hoodwink the audience with talk of

619
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:59,380
religious mumbo jumbo superstition and hob goblins in adult books

620
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:25,420
These are books. They're not pornographic. They're not strange. They're literature. Get over it. Now, I ask you all in the audience, what are these people trying to distract you from with their nonsense? I think you should look at them, see what their interests are, see what they're trying to distract you from. Because I think that's the bigger deal than jamming public buildings full of nonsense or keeping books out of libraries.

621
01:05:28,890 --> 01:05:31,890
Okay. Somebody else would like to testify?

622
01:05:31,890 --> 01:05:32,910
Mark

623
01:05:36,810 --> 01:05:42,830
Spone, Mayor and Assembly Manager, thank you for letting us speak.

624
01:05:43,730 --> 01:05:50,030
As far as 24.099, that would definitely in my mind have to be a no anytime you're

625
01:05:50,030 --> 01:05:55,250
going to restrict motorized vehicles on a trail or possibly getting the federal government

626
01:05:55,250 --> 01:05:56,890
involved in things I'd be a no.

627
01:05:56,890 --> 01:06:03,150
So, um, 24-105 sponsored by assembly and premier,

628
01:06:03,410 --> 01:06:07,810
I'm sorry, um, definitely appreciate that.

629
01:06:07,930 --> 01:06:09,030
That's long overdue.

630
01:06:09,130 --> 01:06:09,930
That's common sense.

631
01:06:09,950 --> 01:06:14,070
How can somebody be against having these things posted

632
01:06:14,070 --> 01:06:16,610
in a burrow building or the libraries of the school

633
01:06:16,610 --> 01:06:17,550
or anywhere else?

634
01:06:17,610 --> 01:06:19,110
That's freedom in America.

635
01:06:19,270 --> 01:06:21,010
That's what we're all here for.

636
01:06:21,050 --> 01:06:22,650
We all want to be in a free country.

637
01:06:22,990 --> 01:06:25,510
And this is how the founding fathers came up.

638
01:06:25,510 --> 01:06:28,110
and that's all our laws are based on.

639
01:06:28,650 --> 01:06:31,550
So that would definitely thank you for supporting

640
01:06:31,550 --> 01:06:32,870
or bringing that up.

641
01:06:34,170 --> 01:06:37,430
And also thank you for the people that voted

642
01:06:37,430 --> 01:06:41,070
to try and do something to protect our children

643
01:06:41,710 --> 01:06:44,930
from the pornography that's being introduced

644
01:06:44,930 --> 01:06:48,450
for kids in these libraries with tax payer dollars.

645
01:06:49,090 --> 01:06:51,010
So thank you for making a committee.

646
01:06:51,550 --> 01:06:53,690
I think the committee could use a little more teeth.

647
01:06:53,690 --> 01:07:01,190
they shouldn't be overruled by a burrow employee, I think they're trying to do a good job.

648
01:07:01,890 --> 01:07:06,730
And if anybody has ever tried to read one of those books that these people are tasked

649
01:07:06,730 --> 01:07:14,890
with reading, there's nothing in your life that could probably be effective worse than to

650
01:07:14,890 --> 01:07:17,850
have to do what they're doing, so we should thank them for what they're doing.

651
01:07:18,370 --> 01:07:19,830
And thank you for everything you're doing.

652
01:07:19,990 --> 01:07:20,250
Thank you.

653
01:07:29,270 --> 01:07:31,350
Do you need me to state my name?

654
01:07:31,870 --> 01:07:32,070
Please.

655
01:07:33,010 --> 01:07:34,070
I'm Ryan Newman.

656
01:07:34,550 --> 01:07:35,590
I'm 21 years old.

657
01:07:36,170 --> 01:07:38,470
I was recently a minor, relatively.

658
01:07:39,730 --> 01:07:41,690
And during that I've read all sorts of books.

659
01:07:42,070 --> 01:07:44,570
I read books from the Founding Fathers,

660
01:07:44,850 --> 01:07:47,590
to Fascist Communists, and any ideology between.

661
01:07:48,030 --> 01:07:52,230
And I've even read some of these people

662
01:07:52,230 --> 01:07:54,290
would consider pornographic in nature.

663
01:07:55,290 --> 01:07:57,770
And I've read books that would be considered

664
01:07:57,770 --> 01:07:59,410
too old for me at that time.

665
01:08:00,130 --> 01:08:05,070
And some of you want to pull a ban or a totally not ban

666
01:08:05,070 --> 01:08:06,010
on these books.

667
01:08:07,490 --> 01:08:10,790
I would respond, you are far away from your youth.

668
01:08:11,270 --> 01:08:14,350
How are you to say anything along the lines of you

669
01:08:14,350 --> 01:08:15,910
understand the maturity of children

670
01:08:16,610 --> 01:08:20,110
when your childhood was at the very least before the

671
01:08:20,110 --> 01:08:26,350
Clinton era and for some of you during the Nixon or even the Johnson era or even before.

672
01:08:28,260 --> 01:08:34,140
I believe you who are for this totally not a book band are scared because you are scared

673
01:08:34,140 --> 01:08:35,900
of the freedom of press and speech.

674
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:38,580
Let the children develop how they will.

675
01:08:38,940 --> 01:08:40,880
That's how my late father handled me.

676
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:46,260
Let me think, do and read as I want, as long as I do not hurt anybody.

677
01:08:46,260 --> 01:08:52,580
And he raised an intellectual, but perhaps you're afraid because you know the higher education

678
01:08:52,580 --> 01:08:55,340
level, the less likely you are to vote Republican.

679
01:08:56,100 --> 01:08:57,260
Thank you, and God bless America.

680
01:09:03,940 --> 01:09:09,960
Anyone else like to present testimony to the...

681
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:13,340
Okay.

682
01:09:13,740 --> 01:09:13,980
Hello.

683
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:20,580
My name is Carol Carmen.

684
01:09:20,940 --> 01:09:23,120
I live up on off of Palmer Fish Hook.

685
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:30,700
and I'm in support of 24-105, thank you for the quotes that you shared.

686
01:09:30,900 --> 01:09:34,340
It is part of our history, it's part of who we are as a country.

687
01:09:36,060 --> 01:09:39,540
I appreciate that resolution very much.

688
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:44,220
All the components of the resolution belong there, every single one of them.

689
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:52,200
And I'd like you, I hope you vote as a patriotic citizen in favor of that resolution, because

690
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:57,740
That's what it is. It's patriotism. It's supporting our country, which is what we ought to do.

691
01:09:58,540 --> 01:09:59,780
Governments a different story.

692
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:08,560
We support government when they deserve it. Country, we need to support all the time, and that's patriotism. Thank you. Good evening.

693
01:10:17,230 --> 01:10:37,470
My name is Michael Baker. I'm here in support of keeping all three options available in resolutions 24-078. I'm here also at tonight to set the stretch, excuse me, to set straight at least a portion of the controversy surrounding the end of Connect River Road. Three minutes of truth telling is simply not enough, but it's where we've been given

694
01:10:37,470 --> 01:10:40,570
and matter, given in the matter set before I use

695
01:10:40,570 --> 01:10:41,910
too important to remain silent.

696
01:10:42,690 --> 01:10:44,590
At the Pioneer Commission meeting last month,

697
01:10:44,930 --> 01:10:46,570
Chad M. Zweiler testified, quote,

698
01:10:47,330 --> 01:10:50,090
I recently had a demand letter for 700,000

699
01:10:50,090 --> 01:10:53,750
based on noise and other damages that they are trying to do.

700
01:10:54,270 --> 01:10:56,250
This is from the leaders of the community council.

701
01:10:57,030 --> 01:10:59,290
No, the leaders of the community council

702
01:10:59,290 --> 01:11:02,630
president Craig Price and then vice president Dennis Sayer

703
01:11:02,630 --> 01:11:03,910
were not parties to that letter.

704
01:11:04,810 --> 01:11:06,450
Nor was it ever brought before the council

705
01:11:06,450 --> 01:11:07,630
that I've been made aware of.

706
01:11:07,890 --> 01:11:10,290
And the 700,000 is not about noise at all.

707
01:11:10,830 --> 01:11:13,330
The fact is that Chad Emsweiler, owner of a lodge

708
01:11:13,330 --> 01:11:15,030
and helicopter company next door to me,

709
01:11:15,550 --> 01:11:18,590
has trespassed and destroyed property that is not his own.

710
01:11:19,490 --> 01:11:22,790
My journey to Alaska started long before I ever set here

711
01:11:22,790 --> 01:11:25,510
24 years, set foot here 24 years ago.

712
01:11:27,210 --> 01:11:30,510
To travel with and support the formation of future world

713
01:11:30,510 --> 01:11:33,170
leaders through adventures of the mind and body

714
01:11:33,170 --> 01:11:37,890
in the wilderness of Alaska, a boutique tourism venture designed to strengthen the hearts

715
01:11:37,890 --> 01:11:41,230
and minds of those that will someday lead their area of the world.

716
01:11:41,970 --> 01:11:46,670
We had one incident with a lodge prior to Chad's arrival, and the result was a lifelong friendship

717
01:11:46,670 --> 01:11:47,770
with the previous folks.

718
01:11:48,170 --> 01:11:53,130
We spent countless hours volunteering for the former owner and manager enjoying good company

719
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:54,870
and meals in the lodge deck.

720
01:11:55,470 --> 01:11:59,630
For years we opened our home to employees for thanksgiving, Christmas, skating parties,

721
01:11:59,790 --> 01:12:00,910
birthdays, and anniversaries.

722
01:12:00,910 --> 01:12:04,890
the love and support we receive from these employees has been invaluable and I

723
01:12:04,890 --> 01:12:10,450
consider them dear friends. Our roots run deep in Alaska, two of my daughters

724
01:12:10,450 --> 01:12:14,730
belonged to the Didnayna people and our members of the Ecclutna tribe. My

725
01:12:14,730 --> 01:12:19,550
grandson is Eupick. Our son-in-law hails from a five-generation commercial fishing

726
01:12:19,550 --> 01:12:24,930
family. We have no intentions of abandoning our home or the land of mom which we

727
01:12:24,930 --> 01:12:31,450
drive as a family. In June 2023 my youngest son was on our property when our

728
01:12:31,450 --> 01:12:36,050
relationship with the lodge dramatically changed due to the actions of Chad

729
01:12:36,050 --> 01:12:40,810
M. Zweiler, owner and operator. An unknown man at the time, months later,

730
01:12:40,910 --> 01:12:44,610
identified as Chad personally trespassed on our property causing devastating

731
01:12:44,610 --> 01:12:50,650
damage with heavy equipment. One of our 75-plus-foot tall birch trees came

732
01:12:50,650 --> 01:12:53,390
crashing down where my youngest children play.

733
01:12:54,790 --> 01:12:57,570
My eldest daughter and a neighbor rushed to investigate the noise.

734
01:12:58,830 --> 01:13:00,750
Had my children been playing where they play,

735
01:13:01,050 --> 01:13:05,130
the time Chad toppled our tree more than 60 feet into our property?

736
01:13:05,810 --> 01:13:06,930
I don't know what would have happened.

737
01:13:08,410 --> 01:13:08,650
Or what?

738
01:13:09,090 --> 01:13:09,210
Yeah.

739
01:13:10,390 --> 01:13:12,470
Despite my daughter and my neighbor's

740
01:13:12,470 --> 01:13:15,310
pleas to stop Chad's activities, trees professionally

741
01:13:15,310 --> 01:13:17,970
marked by handsome surveyors who surveyed

742
01:13:17,970 --> 01:13:19,930
take clearly marking the property lines,

743
01:13:20,130 --> 01:13:21,950
were toppled and debris from a watch

744
01:13:21,950 --> 01:13:23,690
as side was pushed onto our land.

745
01:13:24,510 --> 01:13:26,610
When I arrived, I confronted an unknown man

746
01:13:26,610 --> 01:13:27,810
later identified as Chad.

747
01:13:28,570 --> 01:13:30,890
He was dredging our drinking water.

748
01:13:31,150 --> 01:13:32,690
Can I have you wrap it up?

749
01:13:32,690 --> 01:13:33,170
It has to matter.

750
01:13:33,850 --> 01:13:36,030
And I'll let the rest be said by my son.

751
01:13:36,490 --> 01:13:37,410
OK, thank you.

752
01:13:56,930 --> 01:13:58,210
My name is Isaac Baker.

753
01:13:59,110 --> 01:14:00,870
I just want to finish my dad's statement here.

754
01:14:01,750 --> 01:14:04,910
When I arrived, I confronted an unknown man later identified

755
01:14:04,910 --> 01:14:06,030
as Chad M. Zwiler.

756
01:14:06,030 --> 01:14:11,810
As an excavator Chad, as the excavator Chad was operating, was dredging our drinking water source.

757
01:14:12,010 --> 01:14:17,950
Our spring was severely damaged with severed pipes and water as it muddied that became undrinkable.

758
01:14:18,570 --> 01:14:23,310
Chad refused to identify himself, apologized, apologized or cease his operations.

759
01:14:24,170 --> 01:14:36,010
It took a call to the troopers and my furious insistence as a protective father to halt the destruction of our property and drinking water that sustained us.

760
01:14:37,070 --> 01:14:41,130
Regarding firearms, Chad mentioned, I indeed personally witnessed the taking of statements

761
01:14:41,130 --> 01:14:43,510
following a firearm incident that rocked our community.

762
01:14:44,350 --> 01:14:49,890
The incidents involving multiple lodge employees, I was not in the scene following the event

763
01:14:49,890 --> 01:14:54,390
and I personally heard one of these lodge employees telling the troopers and the lodge manager

764
01:14:54,390 --> 01:14:58,330
that her husband, a fellow employee, had fired a pistol into the ground in front of a minor

765
01:14:58,330 --> 01:14:59,970
and I'm in a minor neighbor's...

766
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:06,020
Child. We had worked at the lodge for a week. I heard her voice as she stated that her husband,

767
01:15:06,220 --> 01:15:10,960
a fellow lodge employee's intention, was solely to scare the boy. This is the same child

768
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:14,220
the lodge employee admitted they had sold alcohol to and assaulted.

769
01:15:23,810 --> 01:15:24,310
I believe that's all.

770
01:15:24,690 --> 01:15:24,830
Thank you.

771
01:15:45,590 --> 01:15:50,550
My name is Shelby Baker. As to setting the record straight for what Chad

772
01:15:50,550 --> 01:15:56,210
That employer said his statements to the planning committee last month about his neighbors

773
01:15:56,630 --> 01:16:00,370
at about the $700,000 about just noise.

774
01:16:01,470 --> 01:16:06,570
Some of it was addressed by my husband Mike about the trees that he damaged.

775
01:16:07,130 --> 01:16:11,350
This was the letter that we had sent from our lawyer after I tried to go and talk to them

776
01:16:12,130 --> 01:16:14,090
and vocally about the incident.

777
01:16:14,810 --> 01:16:18,290
They refused to speak to me and have their lawyer call me the next day.

778
01:16:18,290 --> 01:16:20,810
So we had to get a lawyer as well.

779
01:16:21,390 --> 01:16:25,390
The last good glacier lodge is bordered on three sides by residential property owners,

780
01:16:25,390 --> 01:16:31,030
thus it should have been obvious that construction of other activities at the lodge needed to be carried out with appropriate care.

781
01:16:31,610 --> 01:16:34,050
Unfortunately, this was not done in 2018.

782
01:16:34,050 --> 01:16:41,390
Those acting for the lodge cut a trail across the Baker and Pearson properties so that the lodge guest could access a new for viewing.

783
01:16:41,850 --> 01:16:45,370
No one representing the lodge asked for permission, both properties were posted.

784
01:16:45,370 --> 01:16:49,950
And there was no question that the lodge knew what it was doing was wrong after being confronted

785
01:16:49,950 --> 01:16:54,010
the lodge manager at the time promise that this would never happen again and that the

786
01:16:54,010 --> 01:16:58,570
lodge would keep those working for or on its behalf off the neighbor's property.

787
01:16:59,350 --> 01:17:05,070
Earlier this year, however, the new lodge manager in place, the lodge built a helicopter pad

788
01:17:05,070 --> 01:17:06,510
near the property boundary line.

789
01:17:06,730 --> 01:17:10,750
As a part of the project, Birch Cottonwood and all their trees on the Bakerside of property

790
01:17:10,750 --> 01:17:15,230
were destroyed, damaged as a result, the Baker property has suffered not only a loss of the

791
01:17:15,230 --> 01:17:20,710
trees, but also reduced surface runoff erosion impact to drinking water in the commensurate

792
01:17:20,710 --> 01:17:24,790
of loss of screening against the noise of the helicopter traffic. The value of the

793
01:17:24,790 --> 01:17:35,770
lost damage trees has been estimated at $66,435 to $221,450. These were all estimates that

794
01:17:35,770 --> 01:17:44,930
that we're given from reports from Maria, she's a tree specialist and then it goes on

795
01:17:44,930 --> 01:17:52,550
to talk about in the state of Alaska, we have trouble cause and it was well known earlier

796
01:17:52,550 --> 01:17:57,050
that this property line was put in place.

797
01:17:57,290 --> 01:18:02,610
The damage was whether it was intentional or voluntary because the property line is well

798
01:18:02,610 --> 01:18:07,030
known in light of earlier intrusion is highly likely the result and the event of legal dispute

799
01:18:07,030 --> 01:18:13,150
would be trouble damages on at least 44,000 and perhaps as much as 221,450.

800
01:18:13,430 --> 01:18:20,330
In other words, the tree issue alone is likely to result in a liability between 100, and 32,000

801
01:18:20,330 --> 01:18:23,370
to 664,350.

802
01:18:24,070 --> 01:18:29,490
So this was the letter that he was claiming was all against the noise, which was actually

803
01:18:29,490 --> 01:18:33,670
just the property damages that he had done to his neighboring properties.

804
01:18:34,290 --> 01:18:34,730
Thank you.

805
01:18:36,170 --> 01:18:40,350
Anyone else that hasn't testified that I could do a dress to the assembly?

806
01:18:44,260 --> 01:18:44,480
Okay.

807
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:46,700
I don't see any names on the phone.

808
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:47,620
We have four people.

809
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:49,900
Go ahead, whoever's first on the phone.

810
01:18:54,210 --> 01:18:56,110
Adam Mayer and members of the assembly.

811
01:18:57,050 --> 01:18:58,290
My name is Mark Masteller.

812
01:18:58,490 --> 01:19:01,710
That's M-A-S-T-E-L-L-L-E-R from Palmer.

813
01:19:01,710 --> 01:19:10,130
and I just want to address two resolutions on the consent agenda, the first being RS-24-078

814
01:19:10,130 --> 01:19:14,830
about community councils and developing comp plans and special land use districts.

815
01:19:15,590 --> 01:19:21,210
I understand this resolution originated with circumstances in the Southkinnick River Community Council area,

816
01:19:21,570 --> 01:19:27,430
and I empathize with their concerns. But as written, this resolution has burrow-wide impacts,

817
01:19:27,430 --> 01:19:31,850
And the public and community councils were not noticed or allowed to be engaged in this proposal.

818
01:19:32,410 --> 01:19:36,870
An action with significant impacts to community planning processes across the borough,

819
01:19:36,970 --> 01:19:42,250
like comp plans and special land use districts, should not be addressed through a consent agenda process.

820
01:19:42,710 --> 01:19:50,190
So I'd like to see RS-247-8 pulled entirely in return to the Planning Commission and staff or staff

821
01:19:50,190 --> 01:19:54,350
so that community councils and the public can be engaged and allowed input.

822
01:19:55,010 --> 01:19:59,950
The second one is RS24105 regarding the documents to be

823
01:20:01,190 --> 01:20:30,090
I just think this is a guarantee way for our tax dollars to be spent on lawyers rather than on roads and other services the borough is responsible for. The resolution doesn't conform to the requirement of separation of church and state, which is clearly outlined in our U.S. Constitution. And I guess we do want to see that one on display the Constitution. So, you know, I guess I'm frustrated. These types of things just waste valuable money and time. And I think the assembly should focus on being good.

824
01:20:30,090 --> 01:20:32,010
good stewards of our limited tax dollars.

825
01:20:32,590 --> 01:20:36,530
So RS24105 should also be pulled from the consent agenda

826
01:20:36,530 --> 01:20:37,910
to allow thorough discussion.

827
01:20:38,650 --> 01:20:39,910
Thanks for your consideration.

828
01:20:42,220 --> 01:20:44,000
Next person on the line, please.

829
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:49,480
Yes, my name is Mary McCrum.

830
01:20:49,860 --> 01:20:52,100
My last name is both MCC, RUM.

831
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:57,440
The assembly's proposal to display the Christian 10 commandments

832
01:20:57,440 --> 01:20:59,960
in our bureau libraries is unconstitutional.

833
01:21:00,440 --> 01:21:03,760
The first amendment of the United States Constitution

834
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,240
and forbids promoting one religion over another.

835
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,200
This proposal is a restriction on our freedom.

836
01:21:10,900 --> 01:21:14,220
Our burrowed libraries and Sutton, Big Lake, Willow,

837
01:21:14,460 --> 01:21:16,380
Trapper Creek, and Chalkeaton are under siege.

838
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:20,960
And that's an assembly appointed a library citizen's advisory

839
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:23,820
committee has recommended removal of two books

840
01:21:23,820 --> 01:21:24,640
from our libraries.

841
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:28,980
And in itself, threatened to prosecute the librarians

842
01:21:28,980 --> 01:21:30,440
who have these on their shelves.

843
01:21:30,440 --> 01:21:36,600
The Burroughs Committee Development Department has the final say about these books.

844
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:42,160
If forced to litigate on any of these actions, the funding would bankrupt this agency.

845
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:48,100
The libraries would be forced to close, and this would also affect other community development

846
01:21:48,100 --> 01:21:51,380
programs in the recreational areas like our swimming pools.

847
01:21:52,220 --> 01:21:59,660
What price do we pay to have unconstitutional censorship in our Burrough?

848
01:21:59,660 --> 01:22:04,400
thank you very much. Next person online please.

849
01:22:09,430 --> 01:22:11,450
Good evening. My name is Craig

850
01:22:11,450 --> 01:22:16,590
Price. I'm the president of the South Connect River Community Council. I'm

851
01:22:16,590 --> 01:22:22,690
speaking to you tonight in support of 24-078 with all three options in

852
01:22:22,690 --> 01:22:27,290
tack for a community to choose its process to form a special use district or

853
01:22:27,290 --> 01:22:33,170
comprehensive plan. Planning department has done a fine job of putting together

854
01:22:33,170 --> 01:22:37,970
There are 2478 and it's a thoughtful process

855
01:22:37,970 --> 01:22:40,050
for all communities worldwide,

856
01:22:40,390 --> 01:22:42,730
wishing to develop a comprehensive plan

857
01:22:42,730 --> 01:22:43,910
for special use district.

858
01:22:46,610 --> 01:22:49,690
Four votes by our community council have been made this year

859
01:22:49,690 --> 01:22:54,310
and supportive and preparation for a special use district.

860
01:22:54,910 --> 01:22:57,910
One of those votes was with over 40 members

861
01:22:57,910 --> 01:22:59,070
of the community present.

862
01:23:00,050 --> 01:23:02,790
All votes pass with over two thirds majority

863
01:23:04,070 --> 01:23:12,950
in favor. I bring this information to you because of comments made in the 916 planning commission meeting regarding community councils as follows.

864
01:23:13,490 --> 01:23:19,030
It's a small group of people making decisions. I'm not a big fan of giving a lot of power to them.

865
01:23:20,210 --> 01:23:26,670
This, as I watched five individuals making a vote, which affects not just our community, but all communities were allied.

866
01:23:26,670 --> 01:23:31,650
The irony of these statements, a few deciding for the many, was not missed.

867
01:23:32,510 --> 01:23:35,710
SKRCC is a good example of democracy and action.

868
01:23:36,750 --> 01:23:38,610
Not a few making decisions for many.

869
01:23:39,230 --> 01:23:47,710
Our voting record of majorities in support of pursuing this but 24nd for 24-278 demonstrate

870
01:23:47,710 --> 01:23:48,050
this.

871
01:23:48,050 --> 01:23:56,370
I am sympathetic to property owners within the Valley or within the SKRCC that would like

872
01:23:56,370 --> 01:24:03,690
to have a vote at our community council meetings, but the community council did vote to amend

873
01:24:03,690 --> 01:24:14,350
their bylaws in order to conform with both borough and state laws, which state that you need

874
01:24:14,350 --> 01:24:16,930
to reside in the community in which you vote.

875
01:24:19,390 --> 01:24:24,370
Why not allow a vote of the community to take place to decide which option works for

876
01:24:24,370 --> 01:24:24,890
this community?

877
01:24:26,870 --> 01:24:28,970
There's been different suggestions made.

878
01:24:30,150 --> 01:24:31,130
Lauren Carro was one.

879
01:24:31,370 --> 01:24:37,830
Joe Irvin was one of great examples of how process can work and community can be involved.

880
01:24:38,850 --> 01:24:44,290
And I don't see any reason why this wouldn't be the same situation with our especially

881
01:24:44,290 --> 01:24:54,070
use district application. So, again, I'm asking you to go ahead and pass resolution 24-078

882
01:24:54,070 --> 01:24:57,410
with all three options in place. Thank you.

883
01:24:58,030 --> 01:24:58,790
Thank you.

884
01:24:59,330 --> 01:24:59,950
Wait.

885
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:04,020
I have another person. Okay. Next person on the phone, please.

886
01:25:09,490 --> 01:25:34,650
Thank you for taking my call this evening. My name is Judy cybert. My last name is spelled S E I B E R T. I'm speaking today. This is for the amendment to resolution 24-099 opposing the national scenic designation of the Alaska Long Trail within our boroughs boundaries. Well, we all treasure less natural beauty. This designation would introduce too much federal

887
01:25:34,650 --> 01:25:40,410
government's overreach. One of the biggest concerns is how this designation could alienate

888
01:25:40,410 --> 01:25:46,030
motorized vehicle users. Motorized access is crucial for residents and visitors alike.

889
01:25:46,830 --> 01:25:54,090
Whether for recreation, hunting, or simply reaching remote areas, a national scenic designation would

890
01:25:54,090 --> 01:26:00,290
likely impose restrictions that limit these activities infringing on our ability to use a land as we

891
01:26:01,570 --> 01:26:05,330
We should decide how to best manage our lands, not the federal government.

892
01:26:05,950 --> 01:26:14,350
Vocal voices and needs should drive these decisions, not broad regulations that may, that may not reflect the realities of life and Alaska.

893
01:26:14,830 --> 01:26:21,210
I urge you to support this resolution and protect our autonomy, land, and motorized vehicle users rights.

894
01:26:21,970 --> 01:26:23,910
Thank you for taking my call this evening.

895
01:26:24,970 --> 01:26:25,690
Thank you.

896
01:26:26,670 --> 01:26:32,830
One last time for anyone in the audience that we'd like to address the assembly on any

897
01:26:32,830 --> 01:26:33,030
audience?

898
01:26:33,610 --> 01:26:34,290
Come for us, sir.

899
01:26:35,950 --> 01:26:36,430
Oh.

900
01:26:36,670 --> 01:26:39,730
I thought he only put up his hand with four.

901
01:26:40,110 --> 01:26:40,490
I'm sorry.

902
01:26:40,650 --> 01:26:40,730
No.

903
01:26:41,010 --> 01:26:41,710
More people call them.

904
01:26:41,830 --> 01:26:43,650
Oh, more people called in since when.

905
01:26:43,910 --> 01:26:44,290
Okay.

906
01:26:44,470 --> 01:26:46,650
We'll go ahead and take your testimony, sir.

907
01:26:46,790 --> 01:26:47,970
And then we'll come back to the phone.

908
01:26:49,150 --> 01:26:49,470
Thank you.

909
01:26:49,490 --> 01:26:51,010
My name is Fred Searn.

910
01:26:51,010 --> 01:27:00,170
and I'm a resident of the Connect River Road Community Council meetings, I've been to

911
01:27:00,910 --> 01:27:11,310
meetings quite a few times. The council is fair and the people there are fair and I've

912
01:27:11,310 --> 01:27:19,290
just asked the assembly to approve the resolutions of options one, two, and three to include

913
01:27:20,170 --> 01:27:22,770
leaving the community choice and tax.

914
01:27:23,930 --> 01:27:28,010
I strongly urge the maximum number of community members

915
01:27:28,010 --> 01:27:32,530
to be involved with the voting that goes on

916
01:27:32,810 --> 01:27:39,650
and not have political appointees be avoided at all cost.

917
01:27:40,830 --> 01:27:44,110
So this is on resolution 24-078.

918
01:27:44,770 --> 01:27:45,090
Thank you.

919
01:27:45,970 --> 01:27:46,590
Thank you.

920
01:27:49,270 --> 01:27:50,030
My

921
01:27:54,800 --> 01:28:03,340
name is Tom Smith and I'm just here tonight to show my support for posting the 10 Commandments

922
01:28:03,340 --> 01:28:06,040
on the, I think that's a good idea.

923
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:16,700
I moved up here 24 years ago to get away from insanity and liberalism and wokeness and

924
01:28:16,700 --> 01:28:19,280
and all this bad stuff that's going on

925
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,960
and I think that this is a step in the right direction.

926
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:23,720
Okay,

927
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:30,680
okay, I'm gonna go to, I'll come back, Michelle,

928
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:33,380
but I'm gonna go to the other four people online.

929
01:28:33,980 --> 01:28:36,220
So go ahead to the next person online, please.

930
01:28:41,190 --> 01:28:44,950
Good evening, Madam Mayor and the Burrow Assembly.

931
01:28:45,710 --> 01:28:50,930
My name is Julie Nistrum and I reside at 115-4-0

932
01:28:50,930 --> 01:28:52,210
South-South, come to out.

933
01:28:52,210 --> 01:29:00,630
I would like to see all property owners have to stay at the table when it comes to a community making decisions.

934
01:29:01,650 --> 01:29:16,050
I am in support of 24-078-3 or a way where all people could have a stay and a vote if we are going to have one, two, and three.

935
01:29:16,730 --> 01:29:20,610
All people should be able to have a stay when there's community places.

936
01:29:20,610 --> 01:29:33,850
My husband and I, we have a 164 acres, he homesteaded back in 2016 and he was a founding member of the community council.

937
01:29:35,030 --> 01:29:41,050
Ten years ago when we lived in Palmer for a while, we did not have a boat.

938
01:29:41,790 --> 01:29:47,430
We didn't live there, we lived in Palmer, although we had the homestead, we were not able to vote.

939
01:29:47,430 --> 01:29:55,950
Although our renter who lived in our homestead problem for a while did have a vote, and then later burned the cap and down.

940
01:29:56,610 --> 01:29:59,970
So I just think that all people...

941
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:10,000
We will probably need to live in Palmer again for medical reasons, and I would like to be able

942
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:16,780
to think that being a homesteader that we should actually be able to have a vote. I'm asking you

943
01:30:16,780 --> 01:30:19,320
to support the resolution of options to leave.

944
01:30:21,480 --> 01:30:24,980
I think everybody should have a say. All property owners

945
01:30:24,980 --> 01:30:30,780
should have a seat at the table and the discussion of which way our community goes.

946
01:30:32,100 --> 01:30:32,580
Thank you.

947
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:33,800
Thank you.

948
01:30:34,260 --> 01:30:35,880
Next person online, please.

949
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:43,620
Good evening, Madam Mayor and the Assembly.

950
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:50,540
This is CJ Cone, and I'm calling in favor of resolution 24-105.

951
01:30:51,260 --> 01:30:54,900
I'd like to thank Assemblyman for bringing this forward.

952
01:30:54,900 --> 01:31:02,280
I believe that our community is built on a strong foundation and I believe the 10 commandments

953
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:08,540
is something to be proud of that would be a great thing to be having on our walls in

954
01:31:08,540 --> 01:31:09,580
the burrow building.

955
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:16,560
So I just wanted to call in favor of this and just wanted to thank you for putting it on

956
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:20,280
the agenda for this night, right?

957
01:31:20,440 --> 01:31:21,240
Thank you very much.

958
01:31:21,440 --> 01:31:21,940
Have a good night.

959
01:31:21,940 --> 01:31:23,480
Thank you.

960
01:31:23,780 --> 01:31:25,320
Next person on the line, please.

961
01:31:29,270 --> 01:31:34,010
For the record, Austin, a muscle class name, A-H-M-A-S-U-K.

962
01:31:35,350 --> 01:31:39,730
Tonight I'm speaking in opposition to resolution 24-105.

963
01:31:41,870 --> 01:31:48,590
Our government buildings and our public spaces, they need to be spaces of inclusivity.

964
01:31:48,590 --> 01:31:55,250
and this resolution destroys that very important principle of our democracy.

965
01:31:56,190 --> 01:32:04,250
The Ten Commandments are Judeo-Christian things, and the problem that I think you have to wrestle with is,

966
01:32:05,030 --> 01:32:11,230
which version are you going to choose to post? Are you going to choose the Jewish version,

967
01:32:12,090 --> 01:32:14,270
Catholic version, or the Protestant version?

968
01:32:14,890 --> 01:32:19,710
If you choose one of those, you're going to alienate the others.

969
01:32:20,570 --> 01:32:27,270
And I think that the recipe for really destroying democracy, destroying values that we think

970
01:32:27,270 --> 01:32:28,070
are very important.

971
01:32:30,330 --> 01:32:34,150
Ultimately, displaying the ten commandments in a public building, our government building,

972
01:32:34,550 --> 01:32:35,210
is illegal.

973
01:32:36,110 --> 01:32:41,510
Violence, our state constitution, the state of Alaska constitution, Article 1, Section

974
01:32:41,510 --> 01:32:41,910
4.

975
01:32:41,910 --> 01:32:45,710
or clearly there will be a violation of that article in that section.

976
01:32:46,330 --> 01:32:51,870
It would also be a violation of the establishment clause of the U.S. Constitution, both of

977
01:32:51,870 --> 01:32:58,250
which clauses stipulate that government is prohibited, prohibited from establishing a

978
01:32:58,250 --> 01:33:02,030
religion or favoring one religion over others.

979
01:33:03,010 --> 01:33:11,790
So the problem of course you have here is that resolution 24105 isn't just a will

980
01:33:11,790 --> 01:33:18,530
or an expressed will or an expressed opinion of this body, it appears to be a law because

981
01:33:18,530 --> 01:33:29,230
you are directing action. It has a permanent timeline, a mandate of compliance that the

982
01:33:29,230 --> 01:33:37,030
manager shall post these things. So the resolution has a form of law and so it absolutely appears

983
01:33:37,030 --> 01:33:43,690
if the assembly is creating law, creating an illegal law, I find it opposing that the author

984
01:33:43,690 --> 01:33:50,630
would choose to include things like the Magna Carta, Magna Carta, a medieval English document

985
01:33:51,130 --> 01:33:58,690
that has no bearing on our democracy or our country or our state even. What's more sort of peculiar

986
01:33:58,690 --> 01:34:03,650
is the approval of the Mayflower Compact, the Mayflower Compact. That's a document

987
01:34:05,650 --> 01:34:13,690
of the colonists, but a climate colony, it was signed amongst themselves for some worthy

988
01:34:13,690 --> 01:34:22,150
values, but the Mayflower Complex clearly articulated allegiance to the King. They pledged

989
01:34:22,150 --> 01:34:27,990
allegiance to King James. Here in this country we don't have kings. We fought against kings.

990
01:34:27,990 --> 01:34:33,150
And those documents are very much far removed from our election way of life.

991
01:34:33,690 --> 01:34:37,130
Please oppose resolution 24105, thank you.

992
01:34:39,890 --> 01:34:41,610
Next person online, please.

993
01:34:46,610 --> 01:34:47,850
My name is Joseph Palmer.

994
01:34:49,270 --> 01:34:54,210
I'm calling interguards to item 24107-8.

995
01:34:56,340 --> 01:34:58,620
I think that all three options should be available.

996
01:34:58,620 --> 01:34:58,820
board.

997
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:17,840
I think that everyone should be able to weigh in. There was some comments made by Mr. Scoggins that a small group of people shouldn't be making all these choices, but limiting option three isn't that exactly what we're doing in regards to some of the things that Chad M's while they were saying.

998
01:35:21,100 --> 01:35:32,200
He's done so many things at the end of this road. It doesn't even make sense to list them all. But his general refrain every time that something is brought to him is take any legal

999
01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:38,200
recourse that you have. He says that when he crosses property lines, he says that when

1000
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:43,280
he steals from his young employees, he says that basically at every turn take any legal

1001
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:48,820
recourse you have. So to try to complain when people actually take the legal recourse

1002
01:35:48,820 --> 01:35:53,720
that they have seems a little hilarious to me.

1003
01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:59,780
I believe it was, I'm sorry if I'm getting

1004
01:35:59,780 --> 01:36:06,660
the name wrong, but Dee McKee maybe mentioned that one of the previous meetings that maybe

1005
01:36:06,660 --> 01:36:09,960
people should come to the table and have this discussion.

1006
01:36:11,860 --> 01:36:18,140
If he and the people who back in came to the table and operated in good faith, maybe

1007
01:36:18,140 --> 01:36:19,800
that would be something they could be done.

1008
01:36:21,460 --> 01:36:26,040
Maybe that's the better way to handle all of this, but the thing is, is that he, at every

1009
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:32,120
returns, says, take any legal recourse you have. He doesn't want these, you know, bodies

1010
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:38,100
being, you know, these government entities like the FAA being, you know, quote, weaponized

1011
01:36:38,100 --> 01:36:43,120
against me. Well, then operate a business in a way that that's not really a problem for

1012
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:48,180
you since that's the way that you tell everyone to solve their problems to bring it to these

1013
01:36:48,180 --> 01:36:54,200
people. So I don't want to be all long-winded here, but some of this stuff is just absolutely

1014
01:36:54,200 --> 01:37:01,840
So I think all three options should be available so that the community can have a say in the thing that are happening within the community.

1015
01:37:02,220 --> 01:37:03,340
Thanks for giving me the time.

1016
01:37:04,740 --> 01:37:05,560
Thank you.

1017
01:37:06,060 --> 01:37:07,580
Do we still have people online?

1018
01:37:08,360 --> 01:37:09,260
Okay. Go ahead.

1019
01:37:09,380 --> 01:37:10,860
The next person online, please.

1020
01:37:13,830 --> 01:37:14,110
Hello.

1021
01:37:14,690 --> 01:37:18,830
My name is Marietta Plummer, PLU, M-M-E-R.

1022
01:37:19,850 --> 01:37:22,710
I have lived out in this valley for six years.

1023
01:37:22,710 --> 01:37:31,910
When I first moved out here, we were told about how great the community was, and there was a local community council, and that is exactly what we were looking for.

1024
01:37:32,290 --> 01:37:35,630
A place to raise our family and have a connection to our neighbors.

1025
01:37:36,510 --> 01:37:41,130
I forgot the state that I'm for resolution 24-07.

1026
01:37:41,130 --> 01:37:49,510
seven, making all option available. I do prefer option two though. Tourism brings in a lot of money,

1027
01:37:49,730 --> 01:37:54,470
and it should not be the person with the most money just to have the most say or just come in and

1028
01:37:54,470 --> 01:38:00,190
do what they want within a residential community. We all have a responsibility to protect the area.

1029
01:38:01,170 --> 01:38:06,450
Over the past two years, things have taken a turn, and the voice of the community has been diminished

1030
01:38:06,450 --> 01:38:09,470
by businesses that seek to capitalize on this area.

1031
01:38:10,010 --> 01:38:12,830
This is bringing more road traffic and air traffic

1032
01:38:12,830 --> 01:38:14,530
in various unsafe ways.

1033
01:38:15,050 --> 01:38:17,230
The CUNY community council has been working hard

1034
01:38:17,230 --> 01:38:19,150
to bring these issues to the assembly

1035
01:38:19,150 --> 01:38:21,390
and not just as a way to get rid of

1036
01:38:21,390 --> 01:38:22,810
or stop reasonable growth

1037
01:38:22,810 --> 01:38:25,330
as outlined in the comprehensive plan.

1038
01:38:25,850 --> 01:38:27,630
There have been times that people have tried

1039
01:38:27,630 --> 01:38:30,050
to speak with business owners and have been ignored.

1040
01:38:30,550 --> 01:38:32,690
There's only when both parties agree with one

1041
01:38:32,690 --> 01:38:34,970
to the table that resolutions can be made.

1042
01:38:34,970 --> 01:38:40,110
That is why I believe proceeding with a spud will bring these sides to the table.

1043
01:38:41,070 --> 01:38:46,390
Our local community is addressing issues in topics such as biking, air traffic, noise,

1044
01:38:46,650 --> 01:38:52,650
parking issues, shooting, race meeting, political topics, and so much more, plus our continued

1045
01:38:52,650 --> 01:38:56,790
effort to build a strong community council for future residents and generations.

1046
01:38:57,450 --> 01:39:02,050
Lately, the council has been spoken about with a lot of uncouth and discreditation.

1047
01:39:02,050 --> 01:39:07,030
I encourage you to visit the community website to see many of the outline accomplishments

1048
01:39:07,030 --> 01:39:08,110
of the community.

1049
01:39:08,530 --> 01:39:12,910
The missions accomplished have gotten done through people volunteering their precious

1050
01:39:12,910 --> 01:39:13,310
time.

1051
01:39:14,010 --> 01:39:19,510
I believe giving the local community a platform upon which to make decisions for what is best

1052
01:39:19,510 --> 01:39:25,010
for the general consensus of the community is the best way to uphold the vision and values

1053
01:39:25,010 --> 01:39:29,450
outlined in the RITUS constructed community comprehension plan.

1054
01:39:29,450 --> 01:39:35,290
Last time I spoke, it was mentioned how the Planning Commission does not have the manpower

1055
01:39:35,290 --> 01:39:38,630
to fully assist the community with the flood process.

1056
01:39:39,270 --> 01:39:46,130
So it is my suggestion that the Assembly vote on an option that gives both parties a fair share of the workload,

1057
01:39:46,650 --> 01:39:50,470
which would be up to two, which is the middle ground for tax enrolled.

1058
01:39:51,290 --> 01:39:59,430
It is our responsibility as a community to participate in local decisions and not have those decisions taken from them.

1059
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:16,760
Thank you for your time. Thank you. Right. You will come back and take care of everybody. Okay. For now. Right. Okay. Michelle, did you want to say something before we close audience participation?

1060
01:40:34,230 --> 01:40:34,950
Hello.

1061
01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:54,080
I'm Michelle Stevens. And I'm with the Alaska snowmishing alliance. And I'm here to support resolution zero.

1062
01:40:54,080 --> 01:41:08,320
So, 2, 4, 0, 9, 9 and I think my poster says everything, we've shown you a video, we've

1063
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:14,480
shown everything that we can and I hope that we can vote on this tonight and I hope that

1064
01:41:14,480 --> 01:41:16,480
the public can see this too.

1065
01:41:16,860 --> 01:41:17,180
So Louis,

1066
01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:24,340
no federal overreach please.

1067
01:41:25,780 --> 01:41:26,860
Thank you for your time.

1068
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:31,580
Go ahead, I think there's, did you get a picture?

1069
01:41:32,020 --> 01:41:32,140
Okay.

1070
01:41:33,660 --> 01:41:35,760
Does everybody have a chance to see it?

1071
01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:37,740
I don't know.

1072
01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:41,660
I'm sorry, did she use up all her time?

1073
01:41:45,710 --> 01:41:47,210
Okay, I thought so too.

1074
01:41:47,430 --> 01:41:50,070
I saw people still trying to look at the sign,

1075
01:41:50,310 --> 01:41:51,210
so I didn't.

1076
01:41:57,440 --> 01:41:58,560
Okay, thank you.

1077
01:41:58,900 --> 01:41:59,180
Thank you.

1078
01:41:59,900 --> 01:42:02,320
Is there anyone that hasn't testified

1079
01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:06,280
that would like to address the assembly on any matter.

1080
01:42:06,740 --> 01:42:10,860
It doesn't have to be something that's already been discussed tonight.

1081
01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:11,960
It can be anything.

1082
01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:19,520
I'm going to be able to do just a couple of seconds and then we'll close audience participation.

1083
01:42:23,070 --> 01:42:23,970
I'm sorry.

1084
01:42:24,250 --> 01:42:27,840
We have to press start for you or you won't know.

1085
01:42:29,180 --> 01:42:29,500
Okay.

1086
01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:30,200
Thank you.

1087
01:42:32,460 --> 01:42:32,660
Okay.

1088
01:42:37,300 --> 01:42:42,540
We have audience participation, public hearings, and then people that haven't spoken already.

1089
01:42:42,540 --> 01:42:44,620
audience participation the second time

1090
01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:51,760
already so I think your fingers are

1091
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:56,480
multiplying over there Caleb but anyway we want to give everybody a chance to

1092
01:42:56,480 --> 01:43:00,860
be heard so the next person on line please add

1093
01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:06,780
Scott of metal lakes I'm calling

1094
01:43:06,780 --> 01:43:16,200
in favor of resolution 24-105 the resolution directing the display of the

1095
01:43:17,260 --> 01:43:22,520
Ten Commandments, the Magna Carta, the Mayflower Compact, the Declaration of Independence,

1096
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:28,100
and the Prambles of the United States Constitution, and Alaska Constitution as historical documents

1097
01:43:28,100 --> 01:43:34,600
that I think are important to display, I believe, the community at large as a majority still

1098
01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:39,200
believes that these are important principles to govern by and to live by.

1099
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:46,900
And I believe most of you were elected with the majority of citizens that they would like to uphold these as well.

1100
01:43:47,700 --> 01:43:57,180
And so with elections coming up, I think this is an important vote to show voters where you stand on these issues, as well as just to have them on display.

1101
01:43:57,440 --> 01:44:03,980
It sounds a lot like a lot of people who've been commenting on the constitutional issues.

1102
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:09,100
one of the callers quoted the establishment clause

1103
01:44:09,100 --> 01:44:13,560
and then added to it not only not establishing religions

1104
01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:15,620
but preferring one religion over another

1105
01:44:15,620 --> 01:44:18,320
and something that is not in the bill of rights

1106
01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:19,820
or the Constitution and it means

1107
01:44:20,440 --> 01:44:22,680
and that separation of church and state

1108
01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:25,680
wasn't not only not constitutional

1109
01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:27,900
but not to protect the state from religion

1110
01:44:27,900 --> 01:44:29,480
but the religion from the state.

1111
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:32,400
The founding fathers displayed all of these documents

1112
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:36,160
and support them, even publishing the Bible early on.

1113
01:44:37,060 --> 01:44:41,660
These are not offensive to the constitutional standing

1114
01:44:42,380 --> 01:44:46,540
and shouldn't be offensive to anyone in the community.

1115
01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:49,780
And so I just want to thank Assemblyman Bernier

1116
01:44:49,780 --> 01:44:52,360
for bringing this forward and thank you in advance

1117
01:44:52,360 --> 01:44:54,040
to all those that voted in support of it.

1118
01:44:56,190 --> 01:44:56,590
Thank you.

1119
01:44:57,050 --> 01:44:58,290
The next person online.

1120
01:44:58,290 --> 01:44:59,970
Thank you.

1121
01:45:03,950 --> 01:45:29,890
Hi. My name is Randy Crosby, C-R-O-S-B-Y, and I live in Trafford Creek, and I want to give some input to the resolution 24-099. I agree with that resolution, not want the federal government to have any oversight on the trails in our borough.

1122
01:45:31,210 --> 01:45:39,770
I have a long history of promoting trails in the Trapper Creek and Peter's Hill area

1123
01:45:39,770 --> 01:45:49,310
as well as most of the Masu Valley started giving input in 1994 to the then proposed trail plan for the Masu Burrow.

1124
01:45:50,470 --> 01:45:58,430
And in 98 finally was able to get the ear of the burrow and find out why you know

1125
01:45:59,190 --> 01:46:01,950
the community of Traver Creek was kind of excluded

1126
01:46:01,950 --> 01:46:06,310
from the planning process and was informed

1127
01:46:06,310 --> 01:46:08,810
that since we didn't have a trail committee,

1128
01:46:09,610 --> 01:46:13,090
they really didn't know how to take our input.

1129
01:46:13,370 --> 01:46:15,670
And so at that point, our community council

1130
01:46:15,670 --> 01:46:19,150
created a trail committee made me chairperson.

1131
01:46:20,090 --> 01:46:22,090
And for the next two winters,

1132
01:46:22,650 --> 01:46:27,670
every other week had meetings going over the planning process

1133
01:46:27,670 --> 01:46:31,770
as for what are now the trail system in our community.

1134
01:46:32,310 --> 01:46:34,450
And we joined forces with Peter's Hill

1135
01:46:34,450 --> 01:46:35,890
and a

1136
01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:41,120
lot of local input went into the trails

1137
01:46:41,120 --> 01:46:43,720
on where they would be, what they would be for,

1138
01:46:44,120 --> 01:46:46,300
how they would be built, how they'd be maintained

1139
01:46:46,780 --> 01:46:50,420
and a lot of back and forth from people

1140
01:46:50,420 --> 01:46:52,020
that kind of opposed the idea

1141
01:46:52,020 --> 01:46:53,700
and people that were for the idea.

1142
01:46:54,160 --> 01:46:57,340
Finally, in 2000, our trails were adopted

1143
01:46:57,340 --> 01:47:00,640
into the Matzu Burrow Recreational Trail Plant.

1144
01:47:01,380 --> 01:47:06,500
Then we spent many years primarily local snow machineers,

1145
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:09,220
the snowmobile club, the career ridge writers,

1146
01:47:09,220 --> 01:47:14,800
which my family and I established back in 1995,

1147
01:47:16,120 --> 01:47:19,340
building these trails and working with all the entities,

1148
01:47:19,700 --> 01:47:23,600
all the grant processes, all the right of ways and easements

1149
01:47:23,600 --> 01:47:26,820
and working with the Burrow and working with the state

1150
01:47:26,820 --> 01:47:32,140
of Alaska to get all these trails established, just as all the other communities have done,

1151
01:47:32,380 --> 01:47:43,520
Willow, Big Lake, Mid Valley, and many more, and it's all community driven, and it is

1152
01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:52,120
kind of shocking that this trail planning process, the proposed Alaska Long Trail is just

1153
01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:59,180
It's kind of like steam rolling in and identifying our trails and immediately shooting for this

1154
01:48:01,160 --> 01:48:02,440
scenic band

1155
01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:06,520
aid put on it and allow

1156
01:48:09,080 --> 01:48:12,220
the federal government to then dictate what can

1157
01:48:12,220 --> 01:48:12,640
it happen.

1158
01:48:13,420 --> 01:48:20,510
And so I do appreciate you to forward that resolution.

1159
01:48:20,930 --> 01:48:21,250
Thank you.

1160
01:48:24,870 --> 01:48:25,890
Oh, two more.

1161
01:48:26,170 --> 01:48:26,410
Okay.

1162
01:48:26,670 --> 01:48:26,970
Go ahead.

1163
01:48:27,130 --> 01:48:28,510
The next person online, please.

1164
01:48:28,510 --> 01:48:46,660
Good evening. My name is Jennifer Mezich and I'm a resident business and property owner in the South Kineck River area. I'm calling to support resolution 24-071, including all three options so the community can choose its path.

1165
01:48:46,660 --> 01:48:50,900
In my opinion, this seems to be kind of a gold standard for all communities.

1166
01:48:51,800 --> 01:48:55,700
We live in Alaska, New Valley, none of us, you know, really want a Starbucks.

1167
01:48:56,540 --> 01:49:01,600
We want small business drives, you coffee shops, we want local air BNBs, not Princess Lodge.

1168
01:49:02,380 --> 01:49:05,400
We don't need developers to co-op community council meetings.

1169
01:49:06,140 --> 01:49:09,180
There are lots of opportunities for external forces to engage.

1170
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:13,320
A spread process is not just about avoiding unwanted developments.

1171
01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:18,200
it's also about envisioning and fostering what residents want for their

1172
01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:22,740
community. I want to see my neighbors grow and flourish as long as the growth is

1173
01:49:22,740 --> 01:49:27,700
sustainably managed. It's essential to encourage growth that aligns with

1174
01:49:27,700 --> 01:49:32,020
residents' quality of life expectations. I don't think that a new

1175
01:49:32,020 --> 01:49:36,960
heliport built within a residential subdivision on South Tnick River is what

1176
01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:42,640
really any of us envisions when I say quality of life. I prefer decisions that

1177
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:47,720
made by community members because, respectfully, to the Assembly, the Planning Commission,

1178
01:49:48,540 --> 01:49:54,080
are you're not now not be fully aware or feel as passionate as a community member about local

1179
01:49:54,080 --> 01:49:58,840
issues? I don't think anyone outside our community can make a mindful decision in our

1180
01:49:58,840 --> 01:49:59,120
red.

1181
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:20,310
Your support of this resolution with all three options intact is critical to not just our staff in the river community, but all the map to communities. Please support our voices tonight. Thank you for listening to me and to everyone else in support of this resolution and for your mindful decisions tonight. Thank you. Next person online, please.

1182
01:50:24,240 --> 01:50:34,320
Hi, yes, my name is Bridget Kelly, and I live on East Justin Road, also in the South Connect River Council area. And I'm just calling in for my support of

1183
01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:42,720
resolution 24-078 with all three options intact, so that communities and residents in these

1184
01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:48,100
communities can decide our own path. This resolution offers citizens the opportunity

1185
01:50:48,100 --> 01:50:53,920
for involvement and decisions directly impacting our quality of life in our immediate environment.

1186
01:50:54,460 --> 01:50:59,840
I chose to live here and to build a small business in this area, and I did so because we have

1187
01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:06,160
much say as we do in our community. I prefer decisions to be made by residents rather than planning

1188
01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:11,720
commissions who don't and planning commissioners who don't live in our areas or communities. Again,

1189
01:51:11,940 --> 01:51:19,480
I just wanted to call in with my support for resolution 24-078 with all three options in place.

1190
01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:28,420
Thank

1191
01:51:28,420 --> 01:51:34,440
last time anyone here that hasn't testified that would like to okay

1192
01:51:36,710 --> 01:51:38,450
so I am

1193
01:51:38,450 --> 01:51:42,170
going to close audience participation and then we're going to take a break

1194
01:51:42,170 --> 01:51:45,510
until eight o'clock and we'll be back

1195
01:51:57,250 --> 01:52:01,390
back to the podium and then if I can have

1196
01:52:01,390 --> 01:52:05,530
order in the council chambers please see

1197
01:52:17,790 --> 01:52:20,970
we're so waiting for one assembly

1198
01:53:20,100 --> 01:53:29,200
Okay, I'm going to go ahead and call a meeting bar to order and the next item on our agenda is public hearings and

1199
01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:31,180
Madam Clerk whenever you're ready.

1200
01:53:31,760 --> 01:53:38,760
Ordnance, 24 is 079 and an ordinance creating homestead drive natural gas local improvement district number 667.

1201
01:53:39,320 --> 01:53:44,460
Approving the improvement plan for the district, authorizing the manager to proceed with the improvement and

1202
01:53:44,460 --> 01:53:47,980
And assessing equally among the properties within the district, the costs of the improvement

1203
01:53:47,980 --> 01:53:50,540
if you're on the phone and would like to speak to this press star free.

1204
01:53:52,280 --> 01:53:56,040
Okay, and we do have a stand for the mayor to the assembly.

1205
01:53:56,540 --> 01:54:04,240
Before you as creation legislation for homestead drive natural gas LID on this LID has 15 lots

1206
01:54:04,240 --> 01:54:12,200
so 15 ballots were mailed, nine ballots were returned, seven were marked yes to a mark no so 78% of

1207
01:54:12,200 --> 01:54:14,400
those ballots returned approved this LID.

1208
01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:18,580
The cost per lot is $4,563.73.

1209
01:54:20,700 --> 01:54:22,040
Questions or staff?

1210
01:54:25,410 --> 01:54:26,310
All right, thank you.

1211
01:54:26,830 --> 01:54:33,030
I'll now go ahead and open the public hearing on our ordinance 24-079.

1212
01:54:33,930 --> 01:54:43,110
And for those that haven't been here before, the testimony at this time will only be taken on this ordinance.

1213
01:54:43,110 --> 01:54:49,730
Okay. We will have another time for audience participation later in the meeting, but if you're

1214
01:54:49,730 --> 01:54:58,230
going to testify now, you are to testify on on this 24-dash 7-9. We do not have a sign

1215
01:54:58,230 --> 01:54:58,830
and up to you.

1216
01:54:59,070 --> 01:54:59,430
Okay.

1217
01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:05,200
Do we have one person online? Okay, go ahead whoever's online, please.

1218
01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:41,000
No, okay. One last chance. Anyone here would like to testify in this? Okay? Seeing none, now we'll go ahead and close public hearing and assembly person gamble. Thank you Madam Mayor. I moved to adopt ordinance 24-079 and I just want to re-emphasize that almost 80% of those who were asked

1219
01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:44,080
If they wanted to prove it or not, voted to approve it.

1220
01:55:44,240 --> 01:55:44,760
Thank you.

1221
01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:47,200
Any other discussion?

1222
01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:49,300
Any objection?

1223
01:55:51,060 --> 01:55:54,320
Seeing and hearing no objection, the legislation passes.

1224
01:55:54,720 --> 01:55:55,060
Madam Clerk.

1225
01:55:55,640 --> 01:56:00,360
Ordinance 24093, an ordinance accepting and appropriating an additional January 2022,

1226
01:56:00,460 --> 01:56:07,460
Mt. Sue Windstorms Disaster Relief Funds, in the amount of $658.49 from the Federal Emergency

1227
01:56:07,460 --> 01:56:22,720
agency management agency in $219.50 from the Alaska State Division of Homeland Security and Emergency Management with the company Resolution 24092, a resolution of proving the amended budget for the January 2002, 22, Matt Sue Windstorm Disaster.

1228
01:56:23,020 --> 01:56:25,240
Your on the phone would like to speak to this, press star 3.

1229
01:56:26,080 --> 01:56:34,280
Hello again, hello, through the mayor to the assembly before you again as an accepted appropriate for a total of $877.99.

1230
01:56:34,280 --> 01:56:43,380
since regarding the 2022 windstorms, this $877.99 is the result of cost of

1231
01:56:43,380 --> 01:56:49,020
a run for actual damages that we paid for. Questions of staff?

1232
01:56:51,060 --> 01:56:52,480
Okay, so go ahead

1233
01:56:52,480 --> 01:56:59,200
and open the public hearing on orders 24-0-9-3, no sign-up sheet, anyone,

1234
01:57:02,300 --> 01:57:02,980
thank

1235
01:57:02,980 --> 01:57:12,630
have been put on this ordinance. Anyone online? Okay, I'll close the public hearing then

1236
01:57:12,630 --> 01:57:24,670
on ordinance 24-093 and I moved to adopt ordinance 24-093 and resolution 24-092.

1237
01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:31,520
Any objection to the legislation?

1238
01:57:33,480 --> 01:57:36,560
Hearing none and legislation passes, Madam Clerk.

1239
01:57:38,580 --> 01:57:43,160
Ordinance 24094, Norton Inn's accepting and appropriating the 11,000 from the Matzue

1240
01:57:43,160 --> 01:57:48,040
Trails and Parks Foundation with the company resolution 24094, a resolution approving the

1241
01:57:48,040 --> 01:57:52,480
Scopelwork and Budget and authorizing the manager to enter into the grant agreement amendment

1242
01:57:52,480 --> 01:57:54,260
for a setter, 500 traildozer.

1243
01:57:54,640 --> 01:57:56,800
If you're on the phone, I would like to speak to this, press star three.

1244
01:57:57,380 --> 01:57:57,660
Staff.

1245
01:57:58,880 --> 01:58:00,820
Good evening, Madam Mayor and Assembly Members.

1246
01:58:01,300 --> 01:58:03,060
Jillian Morrissey, Community Development Director.

1247
01:58:03,700 --> 01:58:06,920
And if you think you have seen this before, you have.

1248
01:58:07,680 --> 01:58:12,380
But we needed a little bit more funding in order to secure the traildozer.

1249
01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:17,000
Matsu, trails and parks foundation was kind enough to be able to give us the additional funding

1250
01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:22,040
that we needed in order to secure it since the quote had gone up by the time that you had

1251
01:58:22,040 --> 01:58:23,580
So kindly pass this legislation.

1252
01:58:24,200 --> 01:58:25,560
I'm here for any other questions.

1253
01:58:26,240 --> 01:58:27,320
Anyone have questions?

1254
01:58:29,040 --> 01:58:34,120
Okay, I'll go ahead and open the public hearing on ordinance 24-094

1255
01:58:34,640 --> 01:58:37,480
and resolution 24-094.

1256
01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:39,460
How did you manage to do that?

1257
01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:42,160
The ordinance and the resolution have the same number.

1258
01:58:42,240 --> 01:58:43,200
Next one's the same way.

1259
01:58:43,440 --> 01:58:44,040
Is that right?

1260
01:58:45,240 --> 01:58:47,440
Anyway, we do not have a sign-up sheet.

1261
01:58:47,900 --> 01:58:48,180
Okay.

1262
01:58:48,760 --> 01:58:50,880
Anyone that would like to testify,

1263
01:58:50,880 --> 01:58:53,980
I am either this ordinance or this resolution.

1264
01:58:57,360 --> 01:58:59,440
Nobody's online, okay?

1265
01:59:00,280 --> 01:59:02,740
I'm gonna go ahead and close the public hearing

1266
01:59:03,650 --> 01:59:04,800
and Deputy Mayor.

1267
01:59:05,860 --> 01:59:11,230
I move to adopt ordinance 24-094 and resolution 24-094.

1268
01:59:12,860 --> 01:59:14,680
Discussion by the assembly.

1269
01:59:17,240 --> 01:59:18,980
Any objection from the assembly?

1270
01:59:20,440 --> 01:59:23,480
Here we know objection, then the legislation passes.

1271
01:59:25,740 --> 01:59:26,620
Okay, Madam Court.

1272
01:59:27,000 --> 01:59:40,900
Ordnance 24-095 in ordinance accepting and appropriating, excuse me, $1,440,340 from the Environmental Protection Agency Solid Waste Infrastructure for Recycling Grants for Communities with the Company Resolution.

1273
01:59:41,400 --> 01:59:50,220
24-095, a resolution approved in a scope of work and budget for the Solid Waste Division's Sustainable Organic Materials, Compost Program, and Infrastructure Development.

1274
01:59:50,480 --> 01:59:52,720
If you're on the phone, I would like to speak to this press star three.

1275
01:59:53,900 --> 01:59:54,820
Go ahead, sir.

1276
01:59:58,980 --> 01:59:59,840
uh, through the mail

1277
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:29,140
Chair to the assembly, public works director, Tom Adams. As you might recall, a solid waste vision of the public works department came before this body in early 2023 seeking permission to make application for a grant to the US EPA to implement a compost program. We were successful and were notified of an incremental award in August of this year. So that's what this grant seeks to do is accept that incremental award so we can start our compost program.

1278
02:00:30,460 --> 02:00:33,580
Okay, questions, Deputy Mayor?

1279
02:00:34,380 --> 02:00:38,580
So is infrastructure for recycling grants for communities?

1280
02:00:39,100 --> 02:00:43,120
We got communities involved with it, or is it at the landfill itself?

1281
02:00:43,920 --> 02:00:46,660
So we're in the mayor to some of you remember Bernier.

1282
02:00:47,920 --> 02:00:48,340
It's twofold.

1283
02:00:48,660 --> 02:00:53,580
I mean, there is infrastructure improvements at the landfill to improve facilities to handle

1284
02:00:53,580 --> 02:00:59,120
compost program, but also we have plans to improve both the big lake and Talkeet.

1285
02:00:59,120 --> 02:01:04,600
and transfer stations to help participate in that compost program.

1286
02:01:05,080 --> 02:01:08,440
So they'll have special dumpsters and stuff like that.

1287
02:01:08,580 --> 02:01:11,240
We'll ask that current board and that's exactly right.

1288
02:01:11,720 --> 02:01:12,820
Okay, thank you.

1289
02:01:13,620 --> 02:01:15,560
Any further questions to the staff?

1290
02:01:16,960 --> 02:01:18,280
Okay, thank you, sir.

1291
02:01:18,960 --> 02:01:20,800
I'll go ahead and open the public hearing.

1292
02:01:20,940 --> 02:01:26,900
Not in order, just 24, dash 095 and resolution 24, dash 095.

1293
02:01:26,900 --> 02:01:31,940
five. Anyone like to testify and either this ordinance or resolution?

1294
02:01:34,410 --> 02:01:35,330
We have

1295
02:01:35,330 --> 02:01:41,170
anybody. We do not have anybody online. We'll go ahead and close public hearing

1296
02:01:41,170 --> 02:01:49,910
and deputy mayor. I move to adopt ordinance 24-095 and resolution 24-095.

1297
02:01:52,770 --> 02:01:58,710
Discussion by the assembly? Yes. Assemblyperson, follow up. Go ahead. Maybe

1298
02:01:58,710 --> 02:02:07,690
Any question to staff or maybe it was there a match from the the borough for this grant that we needed to come up with.

1299
02:02:08,310 --> 02:02:15,190
You know through the mayor to Mr. follow up typically there are matches but in this case there is no non federal match.

1300
02:02:16,230 --> 02:02:17,550
Okay, thank you.

1301
02:02:18,930 --> 02:02:20,130
Further discussion.

1302
02:02:21,450 --> 02:02:29,660
Any objection to the legislation hearing none and the legislation passes.

1303
02:02:29,660 --> 02:02:37,780
Now, we have come to another portion for audience participation and we have a sign-up sheet.

1304
02:02:38,140 --> 02:02:44,480
I would like to remind the people that if you have testified under audience participation

1305
02:02:44,840 --> 02:02:52,940
the first earlier in the meeting that we will not accept testimony under this time also.

1306
02:02:52,940 --> 02:03:01,240
Okay, so if I call you name and you have testified before just wave me on or something like that, okay?

1307
02:03:02,000 --> 02:03:04,750
So Michelle, okay, and

1308
02:03:06,560 --> 02:03:08,520
And have seal.

1309
02:03:15,480 --> 02:03:22,060
Hi, my name is Ann Housiel when I reside south of the Kniq River and have been a part of and concerned about that community

1310
02:03:22,060 --> 02:03:27,140
Even while on active duty since the 90s because I reside there

1311
02:03:27,140 --> 02:03:33,720
I cannot vote where I own property outside those boundaries, but I do have a voice in those communities

1312
02:03:34,800 --> 02:03:36,440
Through other processes

1313
02:03:36,980 --> 02:03:46,160
Resolution 24-078 is a proposed process for all communities within the Mathew Borough to follow while pursuing a vision and implementing a plan for their area

1314
02:03:46,160 --> 02:03:54,020
I support including all three options proposed by the planning department the planning commission meeting public comments on

1315
02:03:54,020 --> 02:03:57,540
in 16 September began with an emotional accusations

1316
02:03:57,540 --> 02:04:00,260
pitting a local business against a community council

1317
02:04:00,720 --> 02:04:01,800
in which it resides.

1318
02:04:02,380 --> 02:04:05,200
In fact, it seems virtually the entire meeting

1319
02:04:05,200 --> 02:04:07,940
was focused on that and completely left out

1320
02:04:07,940 --> 02:04:11,400
24 other community councils who would also be impacted

1321
02:04:11,400 --> 02:04:12,380
by this proposal.

1322
02:04:12,940 --> 02:04:14,600
We did not hear from any of them.

1323
02:04:15,560 --> 02:04:17,560
The Planning Commission owed all the communities

1324
02:04:17,560 --> 02:04:19,360
in the borough better consideration.

1325
02:04:20,100 --> 02:04:21,780
Commissioner Skoggins insinuated

1326
02:04:21,780 --> 02:04:24,340
he doesn't even like community councils by stating,

1327
02:04:24,880 --> 02:04:26,420
I've only ever gone to one meeting

1328
02:04:26,420 --> 02:04:29,400
and it's only 12 to 15 people making decisions

1329
02:04:29,400 --> 02:04:31,020
and we can't get out every time.

1330
02:04:31,520 --> 02:04:34,420
I'm not a big fan of giving them a lot of power.

1331
02:04:35,300 --> 02:04:37,040
And yet he never batted an eye to the fact

1332
02:04:37,040 --> 02:04:39,260
that the Planning Commission made a decision

1333
02:04:39,710 --> 02:04:43,220
at the 16th September meeting with half as many people

1334
02:04:43,220 --> 02:04:47,260
and not hearing from 24 of the 25 community councils

1335
02:04:47,260 --> 02:04:48,280
across the borough.

1336
02:04:49,060 --> 02:04:51,080
Now, isn't that calling the kettle black?

1337
02:04:51,080 --> 02:04:57,100
I don't know what is. Furthermore, if people in businesses would seek to understand the process,

1338
02:04:57,680 --> 02:04:59,960
they would learn that all businesses with energy...

1339
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:29,300
The geographic area are grandfathered. And they are also encouraged to participate in moving forward to create something for the greater community of a special land district is pursued. Our comprehensive plan was written over several years with the guidance of a long-range planner who worked closely with the planning team using the 2009 process. Our planning team included at least three business owners then. Rollin wasn't even an American citizen but was an investor and a general manager.

1340
02:05:29,300 --> 02:05:35,080
We anticipated using the same process moving forward until we were informed that the planning

1341
02:05:35,080 --> 02:05:38,720
department was proposing new guidelines and we were asked to cease.

1342
02:05:39,540 --> 02:05:45,000
As stated in our comprehensive plan, we desire a quiet rural atmosphere, blending recreation

1343
02:05:45,000 --> 02:05:50,920
and personal use to preserve our quality of life, with safety and primary concern.

1344
02:05:51,380 --> 02:05:55,700
If we don't follow our comprehensive plan, why did the borough encourage us to create

1345
02:05:55,700 --> 02:05:56,580
it to begin with?

1346
02:05:56,580 --> 02:06:03,500
We were led to believe it was a document that the borough would use in making decisions but we haven't seen evidence of that yet.

1347
02:06:04,000 --> 02:06:12,220
The comprehensive plan for each of the 25 communities is their vision for their future and how they want to preserve their quality of life.

1348
02:06:12,540 --> 02:06:15,060
That will be defined differently by each community.

1349
02:06:15,500 --> 02:06:20,060
Please pass the proposed procedures with all three options in touch.

1350
02:06:30,090 --> 02:06:36,550
I'm Paul Hauser. I'm a 33 year Alaska resident and a 30 year resident in the South

1351
02:06:36,550 --> 02:06:40,390
Connecticut River Community Council. A lot of growth and change have occurred in the

1352
02:06:40,390 --> 02:06:46,070
Valley, more in some areas than others. If an area formed a community council and if

1353
02:06:46,070 --> 02:06:52,310
the community council formed a comprehensive plan laying out the desires of that community,

1354
02:06:52,310 --> 02:06:59,190
It was understood that the Matsu assembly would support the community's wishes according to the adopted plan.

1355
02:06:59,930 --> 02:07:10,110
We have found that this is not the case and seems clear that sometimes the voice of a community council is no stronger than the voice of a single business entity or just a few individuals.

1356
02:07:12,410 --> 02:07:15,370
And their desire to challenge the wishes of the community.

1357
02:07:16,770 --> 02:07:21,850
This meeting is about how a community should write a comprehensive plan.

1358
02:07:21,850 --> 02:07:23,750
and or especially use district.

1359
02:07:24,610 --> 02:07:39,770
The rights and wishes of actual residents of the affected areas should always carry the most weight in any decision by the assembly and all the opinions should be of the community councils involved.

1360
02:07:42,950 --> 02:07:52,430
In the 16, this is gone over three times already, planning meeting, one of the members said that you shouldn't give that much power to community councils.

1361
02:07:53,030 --> 02:07:57,710
even though again there were only six members there and with tens of thousands

1362
02:07:57,710 --> 02:08:01,130
of people in all the community councils with a voice unheard,

1363
02:08:03,930 --> 02:08:05,250
how hypocritical.

1364
02:08:06,210 --> 02:08:11,290
However, I do agree with the statement that there shouldn't be just a few

1365
02:08:11,290 --> 02:08:16,610
people in charge of so many votes. I agree there should be more so extend those

1366
02:08:16,610 --> 02:08:21,650
votes down into the community council by adopting one, two, and three on

1367
02:08:21,650 --> 02:08:25,510
and resolution 24-078.

1368
02:08:30,720 --> 02:08:33,500
On a similar note, there

1369
02:08:36,250 --> 02:08:37,630
were several people at the spoke

1370
02:08:37,630 --> 02:08:40,150
against the South Comet River Community Council.

1371
02:08:40,730 --> 02:08:42,670
Most of those were not residents.

1372
02:08:43,230 --> 02:08:44,970
Three of them were of those three.

1373
02:08:45,530 --> 02:08:50,150
One was against and two were for the adoption of a spot.

1374
02:08:50,690 --> 02:08:53,870
As a past president of the Community Council for seven years,

1375
02:08:53,870 --> 02:08:58,590
and a current and past member for several other years, I can assure you that the South

1376
02:08:58,590 --> 02:09:05,230
County River Community Council has always conducted open meetings, respecting all who

1377
02:09:05,230 --> 02:09:13,570
wish to speak. There are people out there who would say otherwise and who are often misinformed

1378
02:09:14,250 --> 02:09:21,030
or just critical of anything or anyone resembling the system. I'm sure none of you on the assembly

1379
02:09:21,030 --> 02:09:25,130
have ever had to deal with criticism or fabricated tales.

1380
02:09:25,450 --> 02:09:26,210
Thank you.

1381
02:09:27,350 --> 02:09:29,330
Aren't you listening tonight?

1382
02:09:36,580 --> 02:09:37,180
Kitty.

1383
02:09:38,280 --> 02:09:38,680
Kitty.

1384
02:09:42,480 --> 02:09:44,900
K-A-T-E-R-I?

1385
02:09:45,520 --> 02:09:46,120
Kitty?

1386
02:09:46,580 --> 02:09:46,720
No.

1387
02:09:47,280 --> 02:09:47,460
You don't.

1388
02:09:47,640 --> 02:09:48,980
You must not pronounce it that way.

1389
02:09:49,220 --> 02:09:49,780
Help me out.

1390
02:09:50,020 --> 02:09:50,380
Thank you.

1391
02:09:51,140 --> 02:09:51,740
Hello.

1392
02:09:51,860 --> 02:09:53,200
My name is Kateri Hauser.

1393
02:09:53,620 --> 02:09:53,860
Oh.

1394
02:09:54,120 --> 02:09:54,240
Okay.

1395
02:09:54,400 --> 02:09:54,760
Thank you.

1396
02:09:56,080 --> 02:09:59,500
I am a part of the South Canna Grover Community Council as well.

1397
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:29,540
To begin, I am in favor of RS 24-105 as far as the other resolution. Due to my work schedule, I am not able to attend community council meetings as often as I would like, but the community council has always been very communicative and I have never gotten the impression that they are underhanded or wish to do something without community involvement. I also think community involvement in decisions is crucial and so I support the adoption of resolution 24-078 with all three options.

1398
02:10:29,540 --> 02:10:32,940
Thank you. John Nicestrom.

1399
02:10:39,320 --> 02:10:46,240
My name is John Nicestrom and Madame Mayor and assembly and with

1400
02:10:46,240 --> 02:10:53,200
particular note to our good district one assembly member Tim Hale, who quite often when he's not

1401
02:10:53,200 --> 02:11:00,500
up working, he's attending our committee council with great concern and information. But yes, I'd like to

1402
02:11:00,500 --> 02:11:13,220
say I do support resolution serial number 24-078 and we considered pretty strongly option

1403
02:11:13,220 --> 02:11:22,260
three because of the large animus in perhaps with some concerns because of my good friends

1404
02:11:22,260 --> 02:11:29,820
and neighbors, the bakers and the reads and other good friends at the end of the road

1405
02:11:30,320 --> 02:11:40,480
that feel some concerns are impact by the lodge. On the other hand, with this strong set

1406
02:11:40,480 --> 02:11:49,980
of animus towards the lodge, I feel very concerned with their representation, so really they're

1407
02:11:49,980 --> 02:11:51,620
are not ganged up on, so to speak.

1408
02:11:52,320 --> 02:11:54,360
We have a couple of businesses back there or so.

1409
02:11:54,980 --> 02:11:58,220
I'd eat back too long in the sense, 60 years.

1410
02:11:58,480 --> 02:12:02,420
I homesteaded out there in 1967, 160 acres.

1411
02:12:02,880 --> 02:12:04,160
Couldn't even find it.

1412
02:12:04,920 --> 02:12:07,040
It had to go to a con tour map and the people

1413
02:12:07,420 --> 02:12:11,640
at BLM did their best to keep me out of other state lands

1414
02:12:11,640 --> 02:12:12,420
and other lands.

1415
02:12:13,200 --> 02:12:17,940
And I had the opportunity with the council

1416
02:12:17,940 --> 02:12:27,180
to help with their with our needs and to fast forward in 7172, we got a road out there

1417
02:12:28,060 --> 02:12:34,820
and there were objections that that car is traveling too fast, it was 100 grounds that

1418
02:12:34,820 --> 02:12:44,240
we invaded all understandable. We did in 91, I was very honored to be the community council

1419
02:12:44,240 --> 02:12:51,980
in those early days we secured a fire station and we worked towards the road

1420
02:12:52,900 --> 02:12:58,760
pavement at the end of the road later so the school bus could get back

1421
02:12:58,760 --> 02:13:04,860
there as it would stop at the Hunter Creek turnaround but again I'm very

1422
02:13:04,860 --> 02:13:10,560
concerned from my neighbors out there as well as my soul when I do know the

1423
02:13:10,560 --> 02:13:19,340
owners owner and the intent I've always felt at all times is concerned for the

1424
02:13:19,340 --> 02:13:28,880
area and of course good business I'll end saying that again I appreciate these

1425
02:13:28,880 --> 02:13:35,840
considerations and I guess I have to end I have a lot more here of all time

1426
02:13:35,840 --> 02:13:41,660
notes. You don't want to hear too much history. You want to know how we feel right now. Thank you.

1427
02:13:43,710 --> 02:13:45,130
Marshall Alexander?

1428
02:13:49,300 --> 02:13:54,140
Hello. I am Marshall Alexander. I work for Alaska Helicopter Tours

1429
02:13:54,140 --> 02:13:59,280
in Alaska Glacier Lodge. I'm currently a resident of Anchorage and previously I was a resident

1430
02:13:59,280 --> 02:14:05,660
and property owner and Palmer and potentially will be so in the future possibly on Kinnick River Road.

1431
02:14:06,480 --> 02:14:11,360
I've worked for Alaska Helicopter Tours and Alaska Glacier Lodge for over three seasons

1432
02:14:11,360 --> 02:14:11,760
now.

1433
02:14:12,940 --> 02:14:19,060
And I think both companies are kind of shining examples of Alaska non-picture entrepreneurship,

1434
02:14:20,060 --> 02:14:21,800
responsible outdoor recreation.

1435
02:14:22,840 --> 02:14:29,320
And we do help thousands and thousands of Alaskans and visitors witness the breathtaking part

1436
02:14:29,320 --> 02:14:33,860
of creation that is at the end of, that is the Connect River Valley.

1437
02:14:34,500 --> 02:14:39,700
It's been a highlight of my professional career to be a part of the families of companies

1438
02:14:39,700 --> 02:14:41,760
that operate at the end of Kinnick River Road.

1439
02:14:43,500 --> 02:14:48,460
Sorry, I've edited some of these comments since I've arrived here, but I did attend the

1440
02:14:48,460 --> 02:14:53,380
Planning Commission and regarding the Special Use District, and I would like to make four

1441
02:14:53,380 --> 02:14:53,720
points.

1442
02:14:56,080 --> 02:14:59,660
Basically, we're afraid that option 1

1443
02:15:01,840 --> 02:15:09,500
Could give the South Connect Community Council the power to damage Alaska helicopter tours

1444
02:15:09,500 --> 02:15:15,280
and Alaska Glacier Law and other businesses and entrepreneurs in the area. The Community

1445
02:15:15,280 --> 02:15:20,620
Council really, in our view, isn't a fair representation of residents, property owners

1446
02:15:20,620 --> 02:15:24,960
and business owners. Obviously, it's a fair representation of people registered to vote

1447
02:15:24,960 --> 02:15:27,960
on that road, but not property owners and business owners.

1448
02:15:28,740 --> 02:15:37,520
If this assembly was to pass RS24-078, I believe the only option would be option three

1449
02:15:37,840 --> 02:15:40,380
with formal assistance from Matt Superl staff.

1450
02:15:40,760 --> 02:15:45,440
I think definitely option one gives the community council too much power.

1451
02:15:46,800 --> 02:15:52,140
That we, I mean, we could attend meetings and we do it in meetings and I do know we voice

1452
02:15:52,140 --> 02:16:01,900
are concerns, but without the power to vote, I think it just, I think it could lead to

1453
02:16:01,900 --> 02:16:08,240
like regulation without representations what I wrote down here. I think the best decision

1454
02:16:08,240 --> 02:16:13,460
would be not to pass any resolution until all the details and consequences are fully understood

1455
02:16:13,460 --> 02:16:17,980
and that there's buy-in and feedback from all community members, which includes residents,

1456
02:16:18,360 --> 02:16:19,580
property owners, and businesses.

1457
02:16:22,160 --> 02:16:22,780
Yep, thank you.

1458
02:16:22,780 --> 02:16:24,180
Thank you.

1459
02:16:24,500 --> 02:16:25,060
Elijah.

1460
02:16:25,540 --> 02:16:25,680
Hi.

1461
02:16:26,220 --> 02:16:27,960
Could I just ask that last gentleman's name?

1462
02:16:29,020 --> 02:16:31,020
I didn't hear when he said his name.

1463
02:16:32,620 --> 02:16:33,180
Marshal.

1464
02:16:33,600 --> 02:16:34,160
Marshal.

1465
02:16:34,520 --> 02:16:35,300
Marshal Allison.

1466
02:16:35,560 --> 02:16:36,020
Thank you.

1467
02:16:37,380 --> 02:16:37,840
Hello.

1468
02:16:37,980 --> 02:16:38,600
Good evening everyone.

1469
02:16:38,860 --> 02:16:45,680
My name is Eli Hai and I recently began working for Alaska Glacier Lodge and Alaska Helicopter

1470
02:16:45,680 --> 02:16:45,940
Tours.

1471
02:16:46,600 --> 02:16:50,920
And although I'm new to the company, I have lived and worked in Alaska since 2016.

1472
02:16:51,580 --> 02:16:55,780
Nothing brings me more joy than showing people the place that I love and call home.

1473
02:16:56,160 --> 02:17:00,440
I met my fiancee in Alaska and we're going to get married right here in Palmer next summer.

1474
02:17:01,160 --> 02:17:04,680
We hope to buy a home here and fingers crossed, start a family shortly thereafter.

1475
02:17:05,920 --> 02:17:11,440
One of the things I like about working for the company is it gives access to individuals

1476
02:17:11,440 --> 02:17:14,820
who experience nature as it was intended, wild and rugged.

1477
02:17:15,360 --> 02:17:19,060
When you immerse people into wild places, it helps plant seeds of stewardship.

1478
02:17:19,060 --> 02:17:24,920
So future generations can care and preserve these places, future generations that I hope

1479
02:17:24,920 --> 02:17:26,200
include some children of my own.

1480
02:17:27,180 --> 02:17:33,760
I encourage the assembly to not pass RS-24-078 until all details and consequences are fully

1481
02:17:33,760 --> 02:17:38,800
understood to those that it affects and realize as it relates to the resolution.

1482
02:17:39,200 --> 02:17:39,740
Thank you for your time.

1483
02:17:42,440 --> 02:17:43,120
Hi,

1484
02:17:48,140 --> 02:17:54,920
my name is Trudy Lorenzen and I am an employee of Alaska helicopter tours.

1485
02:17:55,260 --> 02:17:55,920
I am a driver.

1486
02:17:56,460 --> 02:18:00,960
I drive people from Anchorage out to their tours and then back again.

1487
02:18:01,680 --> 02:18:06,600
I'm here today because I strongly believe that everyone should have a voice in decision-making

1488
02:18:06,600 --> 02:18:10,620
of what happens in a community, whether it may be large or small.

1489
02:18:10,620 --> 02:18:18,260
A community consists of not just people that live there, but also people that work there and they need a voice also.

1490
02:18:18,440 --> 02:18:24,420
That's why we need somebody on any council to represent local businesses and property owners.

1491
02:18:24,920 --> 02:18:29,100
There is no reason why we cannot coexist in an area that we all love.

1492
02:18:29,660 --> 02:18:35,840
We do not fly our helicopters before 8 a.m. and after 8 p.m., out of respect for our neighbors.

1493
02:18:36,640 --> 02:18:46,060
There are an extra four hours in the day during the summer time that we could be flying but we choose not to and that, again, is out of respect.

1494
02:18:47,560 --> 02:18:54,820
I support the right to operate and have a voice in decisions that affect businesses and many livelihoods. Thank you.

1495
02:18:56,480 --> 02:18:57,320
I

1496
02:19:07,750 --> 02:19:15,710
am John Tiznik, a weird way to pronounce it, and I live in the Connect River community.

1497
02:19:16,130 --> 02:19:20,550
I support Resolution 24-078 with all three options.

1498
02:19:20,550 --> 02:19:23,550
I'm also in favor of 24-105.

1499
02:19:23,990 --> 02:19:24,490
Thank you.

1500
02:19:26,990 --> 02:19:28,450
Ryan Newman?

1501
02:19:31,500 --> 02:19:31,780
Ryan?

1502
02:19:35,260 --> 02:19:37,520
You've already testified once tonight.

1503
02:19:43,570 --> 02:19:44,010
Okay.

1504
02:19:44,370 --> 02:19:45,330
Amy, we read.

1505
02:19:54,990 --> 02:19:59,970
Good evening, I'm Amy Reed, R-E-A-T, and I just want to thank...

1506
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:29,380
Thank you for the opportunity to express my support for retaining options one, two, and three in this burrow-wide resolution 24-078 and not just option three. That was recommended by the planning commission that you've already heard about in September. Option three is the only process that ultimately allows for the sole discretion of the mayor to appoint members of a boarder committee to develop these individual community plans.

1507
02:20:29,380 --> 02:20:31,880
no offense to the mayor, any mayor.

1508
02:20:32,820 --> 02:20:34,500
And while there are suggested guidelines

1509
02:20:34,500 --> 02:20:35,960
for determining those appointments,

1510
02:20:36,600 --> 02:20:39,660
these are just suggestions as I have been told

1511
02:20:39,660 --> 02:20:41,400
by the planning department.

1512
02:20:41,680 --> 02:20:42,740
They're not requirements.

1513
02:20:43,480 --> 02:20:46,000
So as mentioned in this resolution,

1514
02:20:46,500 --> 02:20:48,300
that is for all communities worldwide,

1515
02:20:49,000 --> 02:20:50,680
not just the South Coneck River,

1516
02:20:50,800 --> 02:20:53,020
although we seem to be pretty popular right now,

1517
02:20:53,760 --> 02:20:55,240
I'm getting a lot of attention.

1518
02:20:56,640 --> 02:20:58,980
But because you're hearing a lot from us,

1519
02:20:58,980 --> 02:21:05,800
Let me just address what this community and its members have done without being limited

1520
02:21:05,800 --> 02:21:09,340
to just one option for a process, namely option three.

1521
02:21:09,980 --> 02:21:16,000
Since the late 60s, you've heard residents, land and business owners have consistently

1522
02:21:16,000 --> 02:21:20,620
demonstrated their ability to work together with the borough to obtain and support growth

1523
02:21:20,620 --> 02:21:21,180
and development.

1524
02:21:21,720 --> 02:21:26,800
They not only encourage and support it this, but I am sure at times begged for it.

1525
02:21:27,920 --> 02:21:34,240
So in the early days, this involves solutions like how to transport homestead children over

1526
02:21:34,240 --> 02:21:37,860
10 miles of cat trail to meet a school bus so they could attend public school.

1527
02:21:38,440 --> 02:21:42,820
I was one of those children, so thank you community members for making that happen.

1528
02:21:43,440 --> 02:21:47,640
As the time passed and the community grew, if members continue to play an integral part

1529
02:21:47,640 --> 02:21:52,780
of that growth, which is why there is not only a beautiful connect river road, but also

1530
02:21:52,780 --> 02:21:55,440
access to amenities along it, thank you again.

1531
02:21:55,440 --> 02:22:00,940
I would also imagine that anyone, especially Taurus, who traveled Connect River Road, enjoyed

1532
02:22:00,940 --> 02:22:06,760
the absolutely stunning view of that connection from the spacious and, say, pull out that's

1533
02:22:06,760 --> 02:22:07,840
right around mile seven.

1534
02:22:08,420 --> 02:22:11,420
Again, thank you, community members for making that happen.

1535
02:22:11,900 --> 02:22:16,100
The ability to engage community members in the growth and development of our areas also

1536
02:22:16,100 --> 02:22:20,640
clearly reflected in the South Connect River comprehensive plan that you've heard about.

1537
02:22:20,640 --> 02:22:26,540
This plan was not developed by a few families at the end of the road, conspiring to stop businesses

1538
02:22:26,540 --> 02:22:33,100
and tourism, as has been stated many times, over the last month, plainly listed at the

1539
02:22:33,100 --> 02:22:37,720
beginning of the plan or the 11 planning team members from the community chosen by the

1540
02:22:37,720 --> 02:22:43,240
community. Of those names, some are probably still well known to many around. For instance,

1541
02:22:43,240 --> 02:22:48,720
John Neistrum was on that complete planning committee and has a gravel business.

1542
02:22:49,960 --> 02:22:55,940
Peter, I think his name is Shady, was the manager and I believe also part owner at one time

1543
02:22:55,940 --> 02:23:00,620
of the lodge that you've also heard about at the end of the road, and I saw Tom Placet

1544
02:23:01,140 --> 02:23:02,760
who also has a tourist business.

1545
02:23:03,480 --> 02:23:09,940
So I just wanted to demonstrate that communities have proven that they can be part of the process

1546
02:23:09,940 --> 02:23:11,860
and engage all community members.

1547
02:23:11,860 --> 02:23:20,520
and so I encourage you to consider that whenever you decide to leave options 1, 2, and 3 in this resolution.

1548
02:23:20,980 --> 02:23:21,480
Thank you.

1549
02:23:21,840 --> 02:23:22,580
Thank you.

1550
02:23:23,780 --> 02:23:24,680
Janet Reed.

1551
02:23:26,500 --> 02:23:27,100
Janet?

1552
02:23:36,780 --> 02:23:40,960
Good evening. I am Janet Reed, R-E-A-D. I'm Amy Sister.

1553
02:23:41,700 --> 02:23:49,540
So I rode the big truck to meet the regalos school bus when we were kids across the cat trail when we homesteaded.

1554
02:23:49,540 --> 02:23:56,880
But anyway, I'm here in, I want to thank you all for being here tonight, and I wanted

1555
02:23:56,880 --> 02:24:04,560
to let you know that I'm in support of all three options of RS 24-078.

1556
02:24:05,300 --> 02:24:07,380
I am a military veteran.

1557
02:24:07,560 --> 02:24:11,760
I have served 21 years solely with the Alaska International Guard.

1558
02:24:12,300 --> 02:24:16,440
I'm a retired teamster from the Anchorage Independent Longshore Union.

1559
02:24:16,440 --> 02:24:20,740
I have operated my own tourism business for 13 years.

1560
02:24:21,420 --> 02:24:25,900
I am also a resident of the Matzu Burrow and a land owner,

1561
02:24:26,060 --> 02:24:28,760
and I intend to reside here until I die.

1562
02:24:30,420 --> 02:24:33,240
I am a member of one of those homestead families

1563
02:24:34,040 --> 02:24:38,480
that homesteaded in the Connect River Valley on Hunter Creek

1564
02:24:38,480 --> 02:24:40,200
beginning in 1968.

1565
02:24:40,780 --> 02:24:44,060
So that's 56 years my family has a history here

1566
02:24:44,060 --> 02:24:49,380
in helping to guide the growth of our area in the Connect River Valley.

1567
02:24:50,240 --> 02:24:55,260
So I do want you to support all rural residents in the ability to help guide the

1568
02:24:55,260 --> 02:24:59,980
growth in each of their own community living spaces. I urge you to

1569
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:09,000
Vote in favor of all three options and consider. If you if you did include option three, I would recommend

1570
02:25:10,020 --> 02:25:17,360
amending it with a language that would state any board appointees must be a resident living in the

1571
02:25:17,360 --> 02:25:24,540
geographic area being applied for. And after the committee completes the final draft of its

1572
02:25:24,540 --> 02:25:36,020
comprehensive plan or its but it will then be brought to the local community councils for a vote of confidence before proceeding to the assembly for approval.

1573
02:25:36,560 --> 02:25:40,060
These additions would ensure local community involvement.

1574
02:25:41,200 --> 02:25:52,940
As long time residents, our family and many other homestead family members have been there from the beginning of our resident-based community involvement to usher in the very basics.

1575
02:25:52,940 --> 02:25:55,020
any community wants for itself.

1576
02:25:55,560 --> 02:25:58,420
A passable road, a school bus service,

1577
02:25:58,780 --> 02:26:01,240
and electricity are a few of the basics

1578
02:26:01,240 --> 02:26:04,320
that our community brought forth.

1579
02:26:05,180 --> 02:26:07,120
And since then, our community involvement

1580
02:26:07,120 --> 02:26:10,680
has continued to be very active to help guide all growth,

1581
02:26:11,100 --> 02:26:14,320
including being involved in the lengthy

1582
02:26:14,320 --> 02:26:17,880
burrow process called a community comprehensive plan,

1583
02:26:18,160 --> 02:26:20,340
which you already heard we've developed one already,

1584
02:26:20,340 --> 02:26:27,140
which are local community in collaboration with the borough created to support our vision for where we live.

1585
02:26:27,960 --> 02:26:38,620
So I do urge you to approve the consent to agenda item RS-24-078, options 1, 2, and 3.

1586
02:26:39,580 --> 02:26:43,340
And this will facilitate our community growth.

1587
02:26:43,620 --> 02:26:44,600
Thank you very much.

1588
02:26:46,680 --> 02:26:48,020
And thank you for your service.

1589
02:26:49,040 --> 02:26:50,060
Susan Edge.

1590
02:26:50,060 --> 02:26:51,080
Oh,

1591
02:26:55,900 --> 02:26:59,580
my name is Susan Hedge, thank you for being here tonight.

1592
02:27:00,480 --> 02:27:06,800
And I'm a sister to Janet, name me, however I don't live on Connect River Road.

1593
02:27:07,360 --> 02:27:09,060
I live in your district.

1594
02:27:10,060 --> 02:27:16,520
I'm here tonight because, well let me give you a little Bible.

1595
02:27:18,400 --> 02:27:22,120
I have lived in the Matsu boroughs since 1968.

1596
02:27:23,060 --> 02:27:25,700
I have deep roots in the community.

1597
02:27:26,880 --> 02:27:32,000
Three generations of my family have been educated in the Matsu borough,

1598
02:27:32,160 --> 02:27:33,640
have graduated from high school.

1599
02:27:35,020 --> 02:27:37,860
I own several properties in the borough.

1600
02:27:37,860 --> 02:27:51,100
Taokitna, Gateway, Connect River Road, and just a moment, and I paid property taxes since

1601
02:27:51,100 --> 02:28:02,860
1980. That's 44 years, every year. I vote. I have testified concerning development

1602
02:28:02,860 --> 02:28:18,220
and the gateway community when the gravel pit was trying to build the prison, the coal-fired power plant, and the toxic waste dump.

1603
02:28:18,900 --> 02:28:23,040
So I've been before, this assembly before, for those issues.

1604
02:28:26,520 --> 02:28:35,920
I'm here tonight because I support Resolution 24-078 with all three options included.

1605
02:28:36,460 --> 02:28:43,020
Limiting the voice of a community in development issues is a bad idea.

1606
02:28:44,200 --> 02:28:51,760
Disempowering residents of an area in favor of political appointees is an

1607
02:28:51,760 --> 02:28:55,360
Undemocratic option which I do not support.

1608
02:28:55,800 --> 02:28:56,800
Thank you for listening.

1609
02:28:57,520 --> 02:28:59,020
Thank you.

1610
02:28:59,260 --> 02:28:59,980
Cheyenne.

1611
02:29:01,840 --> 02:29:02,840
Cheyenne Guard.

1612
02:29:06,000 --> 02:29:06,720
I must have missed.

1613
02:29:07,940 --> 02:29:08,500
Hello.

1614
02:29:09,280 --> 02:29:11,000
My name is Cheyenne Guard.

1615
02:29:11,540 --> 02:29:12,300
G-U-A-R-D.

1616
02:29:13,240 --> 02:29:15,260
I live in the Palmer area.

1617
02:29:16,360 --> 02:29:17,080
Yours.

1618
02:29:17,920 --> 02:29:21,120
I have own property and yours.

1619
02:29:21,540 --> 02:29:21,720
Yours.

1620
02:29:24,960 --> 02:29:34,580
yours and I should have a say what goes on my property we the people for the people

1621
02:29:34,580 --> 02:29:44,160
by the people all three you can eliminate three if you like but we can stay with all three

1622
02:29:44,820 --> 02:29:52,920
on 2 4 0 7 8 seems like we've been brought into this situation because of something you

1623
02:29:52,920 --> 02:29:59,820
it should be settled by a lawsuit and then in court and leave that there

1624
02:30:00,720 --> 02:30:10,460
I'll let the rest of us have a say on what goes on in our community and our property. Thank you. Thank you.

1625
02:30:10,520 --> 02:30:28,500
Shelby Baker. Oh, that's you. So you already. Okay. Thank you. And IZ Baker. And he's already testified to. Okay. And Mike also. Okay.

1626
02:30:30,580 --> 02:30:31,660
And then Fred.

1627
02:30:31,660 --> 02:30:39,280
Fred, Si, Fred Si, Diddy already testified to.

1628
02:30:39,500 --> 02:30:40,000
Okay, great.

1629
02:30:40,260 --> 02:30:41,280
Thank you.

1630
02:30:41,840 --> 02:30:49,360
We have one, maybe Samuel Schelling.

1631
02:30:50,140 --> 02:30:50,440
Is it?

1632
02:30:51,340 --> 02:30:51,540
Okay.

1633
02:30:58,620 --> 02:30:59,460
Good evening.

1634
02:30:59,760 --> 02:31:05,300
Name Samuel Schilling, resident of the Caswell area, also a lifelong Warner Laskin, originally

1635
02:31:05,300 --> 02:31:10,420
from Moose Pass on the key-knight peninsula, and also 80-second airborne veteran.

1636
02:31:11,160 --> 02:31:12,660
And I'm here to talk a little bit more.

1637
02:31:12,800 --> 02:31:19,900
We talked last month about resolution 24-099, about restricting, cutting the feds out

1638
02:31:19,900 --> 02:31:21,680
of restrictions on our trails.

1639
02:31:22,420 --> 02:31:26,400
Some of the things I wanted to touch on, we touched last month on it, on some of the process

1640
02:31:26,400 --> 02:31:30,360
to this of these restrictions, this course extra permitting that comes down to even your

1641
02:31:30,360 --> 02:31:34,600
blueberry picking becomes permanent, that comes down to restrictions for motorized access.

1642
02:31:34,600 --> 02:31:40,200
It also adds restrictions to hunting, fishing, trapping, and even our recreational uses,

1643
02:31:40,300 --> 02:31:43,140
even if it is non-motorize, it comes down to extra restrictions.

1644
02:31:43,760 --> 02:31:48,380
Some of those restrictions when they come down, they can do for a administration change.

1645
02:31:48,880 --> 02:31:54,040
So even if we have plans in place now, they are subject to change later over in a administration

1646
02:31:54,040 --> 02:31:57,600
change in with our presidential elections.

1647
02:31:58,360 --> 02:32:01,660
So some of the other things I want to get on that is when it comes down to after the designation

1648
02:32:01,660 --> 02:32:07,580
goes through is that after it's been approved by Congress for this designation, is that then

1649
02:32:07,580 --> 02:32:11,960
the management plan comes into effect. Part of that process is that whoever manage

1650
02:32:11,960 --> 02:32:18,060
the existing trail now, whether it's Peter's Vail or the Willow community, or even Tau

1651
02:32:18,060 --> 02:32:21,920
Keaton, if they manage to trail themselves and they've applied for their own funding, their

1652
02:32:21,920 --> 02:32:27,380
own grants to maintain these trails, whether it's motorized or non-motorized, that management

1653
02:32:27,380 --> 02:32:32,960
can change. That includes also search and rescue can change, and with that the funding

1654
02:32:32,960 --> 02:32:38,100
for those trails can change over to the new management. So the community members that

1655
02:32:38,100 --> 02:32:42,760
originally took care of these trail systems have now been possibly subject to change

1656
02:32:42,760 --> 02:32:47,300
and along with their funding to maintain all this. So I here again to stress about keeping

1657
02:32:47,300 --> 02:32:51,600
federal oversight on it and being from the key night peninsula on the eastern side, all

1658
02:32:51,600 --> 02:32:56,060
of it is federal oversight. And these are some of the some of the changes that you're subject

1659
02:32:56,060 --> 02:32:59,340
to when you allow federal oversight to come in to our trail systems now.

1660
02:32:59,780 --> 02:33:03,400
I believe the borough has done a really good job on managing our trails with the community members,

1661
02:33:03,620 --> 02:33:05,040
and I believe it needs to stay there.

1662
02:33:05,500 --> 02:33:05,820
Thank you.

1663
02:33:07,140 --> 02:33:07,800
Thank you.

1664
02:33:11,260 --> 02:33:15,000
That takes care of the people that had signed up, okay?

1665
02:33:15,880 --> 02:33:19,920
Is there anyone that didn't sign up that would like to testify at this time,

1666
02:33:19,920 --> 02:33:22,800
that hasn't testified already once tonight,

1667
02:33:26,170 --> 02:33:26,490
okay?

1668
02:33:27,130 --> 02:33:27,850
Yes, come on.

1669
02:33:45,800 --> 02:33:46,460
Thank you.

1670
02:33:46,460 --> 02:33:47,260
go

1671
02:33:52,600 --> 02:33:53,220
ahead somebody.

1672
02:33:56,180 --> 02:34:04,000
Hi. Can you hear me? Yes, go ahead. Okay, thank you for allowing me to speak

1673
02:34:04,000 --> 02:34:11,640
this evening regarding to my opposition of RS24-078. My name is Ginger Hoffman, I'm a longtime resident

1674
02:34:11,640 --> 02:34:16,640
of Alaska and a small business owner and I have fallen in love with the connector of our valley

1675
02:34:16,640 --> 02:34:23,440
over the last two years and I love the freedom beauty and peace that it has to offer. I personally

1676
02:34:23,440 --> 02:34:29,300
don't believe that this spot is good for business or even necessary. It allows parties such as the

1677
02:34:29,300 --> 02:34:34,820
Connect River Community Council to make decisions that are completely self-seeking. The family members

1678
02:34:34,820 --> 02:34:40,020
that lead and monopolize this particular Community Council are trying to take freedom from others.

1679
02:34:40,560 --> 02:34:45,220
Even tonight, they continue to embellish the truth and are telling outright lies in order to get

1680
02:34:45,220 --> 02:34:50,160
what they want. They're not the welcoming bunch that they claim to be. They want to live and enjoy

1681
02:34:50,160 --> 02:34:53,640
the freedoms of the Valley, but they don't seem to want others to be able to do the same.

1682
02:34:54,100 --> 02:34:59,240
You heard earlier from three members of the Baker family. This is the same family that has shot

1683
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:29,340
I'm here when pilots have flown by. They've sent their kids into the woods to bang on drums near the lodge while guests are eating. And I've seen the area regarding the trees that they spoke of and it is quite the embellishment actually not true. Interestingly enough, Mr. Baker got a sizable judgment from the previous lodge owner and it seems he's just looking for more money once again. The lodge has been in operation since 2006 and helicopters have been operating since 2008. This is nothing new in only a beautiful display.

1684
02:35:29,340 --> 02:35:31,920
of how small business can thrive in Alaska.

1685
02:35:32,620 --> 02:35:35,200
I think most of us love Alaska because of the freedoms we get.

1686
02:35:35,760 --> 02:35:39,940
But the Community Council only wants to spread the Punish Small Business, and it seems

1687
02:35:39,940 --> 02:35:43,760
they don't actually want the business owners and property owners to have any input.

1688
02:35:44,200 --> 02:35:48,180
If the study is even necessary, which I don't think it is, but at the very least everyone

1689
02:35:48,180 --> 02:35:48,920
should get a say.

1690
02:35:49,140 --> 02:35:54,200
Not just a few who are monopolies, the Community Council, and trying to keep people from all

1691
02:35:54,200 --> 02:35:56,020
the Alaska and the Valley has to offer.

1692
02:35:57,040 --> 02:36:04,480
I love sharing Alaska with others and seeing the look on people's faces when they get to experience the Connect River Valley, especially for the first time.

1693
02:36:05,060 --> 02:36:11,380
I'm asking you to see how this spot is bad for small business and against Alaska and what we want from this amazing state.

1694
02:36:11,780 --> 02:36:17,380
If it should go forward, then it needs to have the input of business owners and property owners, which is option three.

1695
02:36:17,660 --> 02:36:18,020
Thank you.

1696
02:36:18,020 --> 02:36:19,500
Thank you.

1697
02:36:20,300 --> 02:36:21,040
We have.

1698
02:36:22,160 --> 02:36:22,320
Okay.

1699
02:36:22,900 --> 02:36:23,600
Go ahead.

1700
02:36:23,820 --> 02:36:24,880
Next person online.

1701
02:36:28,210 --> 02:36:28,450
Hello.

1702
02:36:28,730 --> 02:36:30,110
My name is Mackenzie Hutchins.

1703
02:36:30,510 --> 02:36:33,230
I am a resident of Kinnick River Road.

1704
02:36:33,750 --> 02:36:39,250
And I actually am not for the special use district, but if it does pass, I would like

1705
02:36:39,250 --> 02:36:41,350
all three options to remain intact.

1706
02:36:41,730 --> 02:36:44,290
And I just want to make sure my opinion was heard.

1707
02:36:44,850 --> 02:36:45,170
Thank you.

1708
02:36:45,530 --> 02:36:46,190
Thank you.

1709
02:36:46,870 --> 02:36:48,290
Next person online, please.

1710
02:36:48,290 --> 02:36:49,230
Hi,

1711
02:36:53,920 --> 02:37:01,240
my name is Chad M. Zwarler, last name EMF, W-I-L-E-R. I'm a 20-year resident of Alaska

1712
02:37:01,240 --> 02:37:08,820
of veteran and the owner of the lodge that is in contention. I just, like I said before,

1713
02:37:08,940 --> 02:37:13,700
I get started on a full support of teen challenge and the Association of the Borough, they do

1714
02:37:13,700 --> 02:37:22,340
fantastic work. With respect to 24078, then the owner of the lodge since 2020, Mike, our

1715
02:37:22,340 --> 02:37:27,000
general manager on myself have attended most of the community council meetings, left the last one

1716
02:37:27,000 --> 02:37:32,920
due to a moose hunt. We participated in the community road cleanup and even opened up the lodge to

1717
02:37:32,920 --> 02:37:38,400
allow all the residents to fly for free and come back and have a community for free food. We're a very

1718
02:37:38,400 --> 02:37:40,780
grow community and want to work with the community council.

1719
02:37:43,470 --> 02:37:45,470
I'm all for the community making decisions

1720
02:37:46,690 --> 02:37:51,910
collectively, but that just hasn't been the case. The community leadership with no committee at all

1721
02:37:53,170 --> 02:37:58,690
rewrote the bylaws and then put them up for vote. And in those bylaws, they said that they could write

1722
02:37:58,690 --> 02:38:04,470
if they're discretion. They removed everyone else from voting other than residents and they even took

1723
02:38:04,470 --> 02:38:08,410
a way the proxy voting of residents to be out there.

1724
02:38:09,650 --> 02:38:13,210
They continue to have as far as being open communication,

1725
02:38:13,750 --> 02:38:16,670
they have held private meeting at the community council

1726
02:38:16,670 --> 02:38:18,590
and the building to which we showed up to,

1727
02:38:19,010 --> 02:38:21,310
because it was specifically directed at us.

1728
02:38:21,850 --> 02:38:25,670
It was invited in representation to which we were allowed

1729
02:38:25,670 --> 02:38:29,690
to have no say in it and no voice in what was actually said.

1730
02:38:29,690 --> 02:38:33,970
a micro-general manager who attended the meeting even tried to vote on one of the options

1731
02:38:33,970 --> 02:38:38,990
and he was publicly shut down by the Community Council right there on every one.

1732
02:38:40,470 --> 02:38:43,890
This hasn't been an open process by any stretch.

1733
02:38:44,630 --> 02:38:50,550
The planning commission rightly identified the fact that things that have such a gravity

1734
02:38:50,550 --> 02:38:56,350
and effect on small businesses like this flood could have need to have accurate representation

1735
02:38:56,350 --> 02:39:03,350
and options one and two, just as much as the community council wants to have a voice, property owners and business want to have a voice.

1736
02:39:03,930 --> 02:39:13,550
And option three at least has to do with elected officials that have the ability to put things in place that allow all of us to have a voice in that process.

1737
02:39:13,970 --> 02:39:19,150
That option three allows community council members. They allow property managers that has business owners and all of that.

1738
02:39:19,150 --> 02:39:23,610
All of the things that are talked about about the Community Comprehensive Plan were back

1739
02:39:23,610 --> 02:39:26,530
before me rewrote the bylaws and excluded everyone.

1740
02:39:26,970 --> 02:39:28,630
So the process used to be open.

1741
02:39:29,610 --> 02:39:33,930
As far as the rest of the controversy associated with Mr. Baker and things along that nature,

1742
02:39:34,230 --> 02:39:35,970
I want to work with Mr. Baker, Uptried.

1743
02:39:36,590 --> 02:39:38,370
I got the coughs called on me right away.

1744
02:39:38,670 --> 02:39:44,110
I've got the man letters, Schrawl, I know it's a financial interest for him and I totally

1745
02:39:44,110 --> 02:39:44,570
understand.

1746
02:39:44,570 --> 02:39:50,470
I want to work towards a resolution however it's not been we've met with gunshots from our helicopter pilots

1747
02:39:50,470 --> 02:39:54,590
We've been met with banging drums in the woods and and we want to go that way

1748
02:39:54,590 --> 02:39:59,450
We want to I hope you hear that and I want I want that to be known, but we also can't have

1749
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:07,740
People that don't do business dictate how businesses are ran. And we operate in full compliance of

1750
02:40:08,340 --> 02:40:13,120
all the laws of the lands where a designated healthy port, we want to serve the community. We

1751
02:40:13,120 --> 02:40:18,320
we don't feel like this is a fair representation of the community. Most of the residents that come in

1752
02:40:18,320 --> 02:40:23,740
and eat at our restaurant are completely opposed to the spread. And this seems to be a representation of

1753
02:40:23,740 --> 02:40:29,680
just leaders within the community council that are trying to shut down that portion that

1754
02:40:29,680 --> 02:40:34,640
affects them in their view. I appreciate the time that you guys have put towards this

1755
02:40:34,640 --> 02:40:39,740
and I think the planning commission coming from a business and what the best for the community

1756
02:40:40,460 --> 02:40:46,040
has rightly determined that option three or no spot at all would probably be the best movement

1757
02:40:46,040 --> 02:40:49,840
forward on these things. I appreciate your time. Thank you.

1758
02:40:58,450 --> 02:41:01,770
Thank you, go ahead and state your name and your testimony, please.

1759
02:41:02,250 --> 02:41:07,530
Thank you. My name is Lisa Agnew. Many of you know me already and I might be beating a

1760
02:41:07,530 --> 02:41:12,450
dead horse at this point, but I'll repeat some things. And as I've also said in the past like the

1761
02:41:12,450 --> 02:41:15,690
more we dig into this is kind of like peeling back an onion and you find more and more.

1762
02:41:16,170 --> 02:41:21,850
So I'll start with the information that we found recently and that is national scenic

1763
02:41:21,850 --> 02:41:27,230
Trials are governed by a net and a federal act and that federal act is also information

1764
02:41:27,230 --> 02:41:28,710
regarding national historic trails.

1765
02:41:29,350 --> 02:41:33,030
Something that some of us may have not known here is that the original I did or odd national

1766
02:41:33,030 --> 02:41:37,890
historic trail was designated through a valley from Grandview to Spencer Glacier.

1767
02:41:38,390 --> 02:41:43,830
That I did or odd national historic trail has now been relocated for feasibility reasons

1768
02:41:44,360 --> 02:41:45,770
to run alongside the highway.

1769
02:41:46,430 --> 02:41:50,230
The question is, could this be something that happens to a national scenic trail in the future?

1770
02:41:50,230 --> 02:41:54,590
sure if it's designated could it be relocated elsewhere and what would that cause for citizens?

1771
02:41:55,910 --> 02:42:01,110
And I'll make some key points real quick just for the sake of time and since there's

1772
02:42:01,110 --> 02:42:02,870
an audience here for those that don't know.

1773
02:42:03,530 --> 02:42:09,290
The National Scenic Trail designation is very important for us to be concerned about is

1774
02:42:09,290 --> 02:42:15,370
because it could transfer management away from local and state authorities while conservation's

1775
02:42:15,370 --> 02:42:20,050
important, a national scenic trail designation that restricts trail access maintenance and

1776
02:42:20,050 --> 02:42:25,290
development could lead to over-regulation, potentially conflicting with existing land use plans

1777
02:42:25,290 --> 02:42:30,870
and local stakeholder interests. Additionally, I'm concerned about the timeline of it. The

1778
02:42:30,870 --> 02:42:35,230
designation of a national scenic trail often occurs before any management plans are developed,

1779
02:42:35,470 --> 02:42:40,030
which could leave a period of uncertainty regarding how the trail will be regulated and maintained.

1780
02:42:41,130 --> 02:42:44,910
Under a national scenic trail designation, a corridor of up to a quarter mile on either

1781
02:42:44,910 --> 02:42:49,010
side of the trail could fall under federal regulation, additionally connecting inside

1782
02:42:49,010 --> 02:42:52,330
trails can be designated without congressional designation.

1783
02:42:53,850 --> 02:42:57,730
This could allow for rerouting, as I just mentioned, like I did around national historic trail.

1784
02:42:58,430 --> 02:43:03,370
A national scenic trail designation could hinder access to areas essential for subsistence

1785
02:43:03,370 --> 02:43:08,870
hunting, fishing, gathering, as well as activities like reaching your remote cabin or trapping.

1786
02:43:09,730 --> 02:43:16,970
Restrictions on motorized access due to increased federal oversight may jeopardize the livelihoods and cultural traditions and many Alaskans.

1787
02:43:17,890 --> 02:43:23,850
Designation could require permits for everyday recreational activities like very picking or hunting, as mentioned earlier tonight,

1788
02:43:24,210 --> 02:43:29,230
which could add unnecessary bureaucratic barriers for local residents who rely on these activities.

1789
02:43:30,230 --> 02:43:32,430
Permitting requirements may also hinder businesses.

1790
02:43:33,250 --> 02:43:38,730
If a business has had to deal with federal permitting before, you would know that there could be an additional

1791
02:43:38,730 --> 02:43:44,010
expenses to it and additional red tape. This would affect dog sledding tours, commercial

1792
02:43:44,010 --> 02:43:50,550
photography, snow machine, ATV tours, rentals, guiding services. National CNIC trail designation

1793
02:43:50,550 --> 02:43:55,110
can impose limitations on motorized trail use which is essential for local recreation,

1794
02:43:56,190 --> 02:44:03,150
subsistence access and transportation in many communities in Alaska. A national CNIC trail

1795
02:44:03,150 --> 02:44:05,650
Resignation can also include the power of eminent domain

1796
02:44:06,530 --> 02:44:12,790
Just to reiterate a one-size-fiddle regulation imposed by the federal government may not be appropriate for Alaska

1797
02:44:13,390 --> 02:44:16,010
Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you

1798
02:44:19,100 --> 02:44:19,680
Okay

1799
02:44:20,440 --> 02:44:29,660
Anybody online? No one last chance in the room. Oh, yeah, come on

1800
02:44:30,360 --> 02:44:33,920
Sorry, you didn't understand I agree with what the exam

1801
02:44:33,920 --> 02:44:35,120
Thank you.

1802
02:44:35,520 --> 02:44:36,540
My name is Kayla Beist.

1803
02:44:36,700 --> 02:44:38,140
That's B-U-I-S-T.

1804
02:44:38,520 --> 02:44:40,080
And I'm representing myself.

1805
02:44:40,480 --> 02:44:43,760
I want to show my support for resolution 24105.

1806
02:44:44,100 --> 02:44:44,360
Thank you.

1807
02:44:45,080 --> 02:44:45,800
Thank you.

1808
02:44:48,930 --> 02:44:49,450
Okay.

1809
02:44:50,770 --> 02:44:51,290
Yeah.

1810
02:44:51,730 --> 02:44:51,870
Cool.

1811
02:44:55,810 --> 02:44:56,390
Good evening.

1812
02:44:56,670 --> 02:44:58,390
Thank you for allowing us to speak.

1813
02:44:58,710 --> 02:44:59,930
My name is Robert Mayor.

1814
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:28,160
And I live in a lazy mountain area. And I would like to voice my support for 24105. These documents are not archaic. They are our history. They set the foundation for our country and everybody that knows anything about construction. If you don't have a good foundation, the building will not stand. Our building is falling apart because of all the stones that are being thrown at it has nothing to do with the foundation.

1815
02:45:28,160 --> 02:45:36,220
and these things, if people would read them and understand them, they wouldn't have

1816
02:45:36,220 --> 02:45:44,060
the misconception that passiness and displaying the ten commandments in anywhere in schools

1817
02:45:44,060 --> 02:45:49,920
like when I was in school, they were there and they influenced us, they influenced society.

1818
02:45:49,920 --> 02:45:57,920
If our elected officials would understand the Constitution, we wouldn't have run away

1819
02:45:57,920 --> 02:46:07,600
immigration, we wouldn't be funding foreign governments, and we would have three letter

1820
02:46:07,600 --> 02:46:09,740
agencies that wouldn't be running amok.

1821
02:46:10,380 --> 02:46:17,340
So as far as establishing a religion, these will not establish religion.

1822
02:46:17,340 --> 02:46:24,440
There is a separation, but it is separating the federal government and our local entities

1823
02:46:24,910 --> 02:46:26,120
from our beliefs.

1824
02:46:27,040 --> 02:46:31,960
So thank you for not establishing a religion and posting these.

1825
02:46:32,900 --> 02:46:37,200
And this is my first meeting, am I allowed to comment on another one?

1826
02:46:37,840 --> 02:46:38,040
Sure.

1827
02:46:38,560 --> 02:46:38,900
Okay.

1828
02:46:40,560 --> 02:46:49,880
24-106. Yes, because teen challenge is an asset to the community. And again, you

1829
02:46:49,880 --> 02:46:55,280
honoring them will not make us go to their church services, believe what they

1830
02:46:55,280 --> 02:46:59,160
believe, or support them in any way. So thank you.

1831
02:47:04,040 --> 02:47:11,380
So one more chance for anyone else, nobody's online, okay?

1832
02:47:12,080 --> 02:47:17,960
All righty, no, don't move there because I don't call on you.

1833
02:47:20,540 --> 02:47:21,200
I'm

1834
02:47:23,730 --> 02:47:28,770
a close public, the second public with hearing and we're at the consent agenda and

1835
02:47:28,770 --> 02:47:31,830
there's already been three items pulled.

1836
02:47:32,490 --> 02:47:35,450
Is there any other items that anybody wants to pull?

1837
02:47:38,520 --> 02:47:39,520
Don't see anything?

1838
02:47:41,160 --> 02:48:05,120
Resolution 24107, resolution urging the Alaska Board of Fisheries to approve agenda change requests ACR2 and ACR3, which were previously submitted and to designate the Susitna River Drainage Chinook Salmon and the little Susitna River Coho Salmon, both as a stock of yield concern and adopt regulatory action plans to rebuild the yield for both stocks, resolution 24108.

1839
02:48:05,120 --> 02:48:35,100
A resolution ratifying the 2025 to 2027 per pro labor agreement with the Manuskas sent the Barrow Employees Association and authorizing the manager, design and execute set agreement AM-24107 approval of change order number one for the contract for contract 22-09-0-P-B with Lowns-Barian Associates to add $53,725 for the design of Hammer Road Extension Project and extend the final completion date to October 31st

1840
02:48:35,100 --> 02:48:42,080
first, 2026, and 24109 informing the assembly of the manager's signature on in the fiscal year 2025.

1841
02:48:42,920 --> 02:48:51,300
Enhanced 9-1-1 spending priorities agreement and approving the fiscal year 2025 payments of 144,000 each to the cities of Palmer and

1842
02:48:51,300 --> 02:49:05,080
Wasilla for the call-taker wages and benefits, and 2410, a word of quote number 25049Q to the Bouteille company in the contract amount of $114,365 in 29 cents.

1843
02:49:05,080 --> 02:49:09,860
to design fish passage improvements for Shushana Drive at Cole Creek.

1844
02:49:10,260 --> 02:49:23,700
AM 24111, award of bid number 24160V to Raven Electric, then the contract amount of $225,336 to install security cameras at various emergency services buildings.

1845
02:49:24,440 --> 02:49:25,460
Deputy Mayor.

1846
02:49:27,840 --> 02:49:31,780
I move to approve the consent agenda as read into the record by the clerk.

1847
02:49:31,780 --> 02:49:39,780
Is there any objection hearing none and the consent agenda has been approved?

1848
02:49:40,740 --> 02:49:45,960
Resolution 24-078, a resolution adopting the process for community councils to develop

1849
02:49:45,960 --> 02:49:50,860
a community comprehensive plan or special use district it was pulled by assembly member

1850
02:49:50,860 --> 02:49:51,520
Bernier.

1851
02:49:52,000 --> 02:49:52,400
Okay.

1852
02:49:52,720 --> 02:49:53,220
Deputy Mayor.

1853
02:49:54,140 --> 02:49:58,940
I move to adopt RS 24-078 and speak to it.

1854
02:49:59,140 --> 02:49:59,360
Yes.

1855
02:50:02,770 --> 02:50:15,210
You know, there's we the people, it's everyone that makes decisions. Now, some of them join clubs

1856
02:50:15,890 --> 02:50:26,230
and their communities, and they have their voice, then you got others that work hard and never show up to anything, but they have a voice as well.

1857
02:50:26,230 --> 02:50:30,630
and then you got people that are on planning commissions and stuff like that

1858
02:50:30,630 --> 02:50:38,850
dealing out their stuff. I for one think there should be option four out of

1859
02:50:38,850 --> 02:50:44,610
all the three because I need people need more voice whether you own the

1860
02:50:44,610 --> 02:50:49,630
property you are resident there you should have a say in what's going on in your

1861
02:50:49,630 --> 02:50:55,510
community. Not just a small handful of people that elect themselves to a

1862
02:50:55,510 --> 02:50:59,310
community council. And I see it that a lot.

1863
02:51:01,500 --> 02:51:04,240
I know in my community there's 9,000 people.

1864
02:51:05,520 --> 02:51:15,560
There's, if we have .00052 of those people making up the rules for everybody else, it

1865
02:51:15,560 --> 02:51:22,280
just doesn't figure out. And I would just shoot this down myself. Thank you.

1866
02:51:22,280 --> 02:51:29,040
for their discussion on the motion on RS 24-070.

1867
02:51:30,160 --> 02:51:32,080
I have a question for staff on this one.

1868
02:51:32,440 --> 02:51:32,940
I could ask.

1869
02:51:34,560 --> 02:51:39,880
The question I'm wondering is I know the South Connect area is,

1870
02:51:40,520 --> 02:51:42,940
we've already said they could move forward with the plan.

1871
02:51:44,180 --> 02:51:48,860
I don't like that the other community councils weren't able to weigh in on this,

1872
02:51:48,860 --> 02:51:53,540
even though I know the, I just want to say that with the caveat, I know the intention

1873
02:51:53,540 --> 02:51:59,940
was to create a process and so the intention was very good to set up something that you

1874
02:51:59,940 --> 02:52:06,660
staff time wisely and got permission to do that. But I don't like that the community councils

1875
02:52:06,660 --> 02:52:11,500
that could be affected by this didn't have a chance to comment so my question is if this

1876
02:52:11,500 --> 02:52:17,620
is postponed so that we can get that additional comment from the community councils what does

1877
02:52:17,620 --> 02:52:22,060
that do for the South Conec area at this point.

1878
02:52:26,780 --> 02:52:27,420
Go ahead, sir.

1879
02:52:27,640 --> 02:52:28,360
Mayor, thank you.

1880
02:52:29,000 --> 02:52:33,760
Alex Tron, Planning Director for the Matt Subaru, to some of you over an hour, to the mayor.

1881
02:52:36,040 --> 02:52:45,960
So when in May, the Disassembly adopted a resolution to proceed with especially use district in South

1882
02:52:45,960 --> 02:52:52,860
Cancriver, Community Council, or any South Cancriver, Community Council area, and they came

1883
02:52:52,860 --> 02:52:57,580
to us and said, so what's the process? And we said, well, we don't really have one.

1884
02:52:57,860 --> 02:53:04,820
So we're going to develop one, and we developed a process, and when we developed it thought

1885
02:53:04,820 --> 02:53:09,760
it might be a good idea, especially since this seems to be somewhat controversial, to bring

1886
02:53:09,760 --> 02:53:15,220
this to the assembly and make it sort of a more formalized process that has buy and buy

1887
02:53:15,220 --> 02:53:16,360
by the elected officials.

1888
02:53:16,920 --> 02:53:19,700
At that point, we told the South Cancriber Community Council

1889
02:53:19,700 --> 02:53:22,920
that we would like to hold off on moving forward

1890
02:53:22,920 --> 02:53:27,440
with development of a spot while we work through this procedure.

1891
02:53:29,560 --> 02:53:31,100
I think that answers your question.

1892
02:53:32,940 --> 02:53:36,660
Yeah, so I guess I'm wondering if we postpone this,

1893
02:53:36,760 --> 02:53:39,360
it just means that the South Cancriber Community Council,

1894
02:53:39,380 --> 02:53:41,820
the folks who wanted to move forward

1895
02:53:41,820 --> 02:53:48,340
I'm waiting this much longer to get started on whatever that process will look like.

1896
02:53:50,560 --> 02:53:56,300
So I believe it would be prudent to wait until we have a process outlined, especially

1897
02:53:56,300 --> 02:54:00,140
if, you know, given the controversial nature of this, we may want to go with option three,

1898
02:54:00,800 --> 02:54:08,300
so that there's a better makeup of different interests in the community that the assembly

1899
02:54:08,300 --> 02:54:13,600
has buy-in early on, so I think it would be prudent to have an adopted process in place

1900
02:54:13,600 --> 02:54:14,520
before we move forward.

1901
02:54:16,520 --> 02:54:18,420
Okay, that answers that question.

1902
02:54:18,560 --> 02:54:23,080
If I can, I just have comments at this point, so thank you for the answer.

1903
02:54:25,260 --> 02:54:33,260
I just want to say in terms of this process, I very much understand the concerns on both sides.

1904
02:54:33,940 --> 02:54:46,780
What I have seen at the assembly level and in my own experience, the Gateway Community Council and as a resident in this area, is there is a very high hurdle for any special use plan to get passed.

1905
02:54:47,100 --> 02:54:52,240
And at the end of the day, the Planning Commission gets to weigh in and this assembly gets to weigh in.

1906
02:54:52,240 --> 02:54:59,960
So, I'm not a big fan unless the community chooses to first let the assembly weigh in on who...

1907
02:55:00,020 --> 02:55:30,000
I want to represent you and not give communities the choice. To speak to directly to the businesses and feeling like they don't have a voice, I can tell you at the planning commission level, and certainly at this assembly level, if somebody comes to us with a plan, and it's clear that five people participated and the businesses were left out, that's not a plan that's going to pass. And you saw that at the planning commission. They're immediate response to hearing from the businesses that, you know,

1908
02:55:30,000 --> 02:55:31,620
know, we don't feel like we're having a voice.

1909
02:55:31,840 --> 02:55:33,480
They responded immediately to that.

1910
02:55:33,780 --> 02:55:37,660
So I think we've all seen a lot of times at the assembly

1911
02:55:37,660 --> 02:55:41,280
where a plan comes forward from the community,

1912
02:55:41,860 --> 02:55:42,840
more often than not.

1913
02:55:43,960 --> 02:55:47,080
If the work hasn't, the groundwork hasn't been done,

1914
02:55:47,280 --> 02:55:48,880
there will be people come out of the woodwork who

1915
02:55:48,880 --> 02:55:50,840
played no part in the process at all,

1916
02:55:51,000 --> 02:55:52,980
and it will be torpedoed.

1917
02:55:53,240 --> 02:55:54,520
And it will go down in flames.

1918
02:55:54,760 --> 02:55:58,260
And I think staff is wise to try to come up with a process

1919
02:55:58,260 --> 02:56:05,660
set of voids at because it's a lot of work for everybody. So I think given that the

1920
02:56:06,480 --> 02:56:15,300
Kinnick area has been waiting since May to move forward on something, I would have liked

1921
02:56:15,300 --> 02:56:20,160
to see this go before the community councils but I think the best option is to have all

1922
02:56:20,160 --> 02:56:29,400
three options on the table and it's on the community council to do their work to reach out

1923
02:56:29,400 --> 02:56:33,180
to the community because if you just decide well we're going to try to ram this through

1924
02:56:33,180 --> 02:56:40,040
with five folks it's not going to get past this body so you need to sit down with the

1925
02:56:40,040 --> 02:56:46,020
businesses and you need to send out with your neighbors and make sure that they are part

1926
02:56:46,020 --> 02:56:51,800
the process and you try to find compromise. I know at the Gateway Community Council we always

1927
02:56:51,800 --> 02:56:58,400
have the businesses have a voice at the table and I mean I found my neighbors were you know it was

1928
02:56:58,400 --> 02:57:05,860
funny how much we had in common and that we tried to to work through so I would at this point support

1929
02:57:05,860 --> 02:57:12,000
keeping all three options on the table with the knowledge that the community it gives the community

1930
02:57:12,000 --> 02:57:17,820
Union Chance Society is not the assembly dictating and knowing that businesses who don't have

1931
02:57:17,820 --> 02:57:23,560
a vote at the community council still very much have a voice that they should be allowed

1932
02:57:23,560 --> 02:57:27,920
to express the community council and a very much a voice when it comes to the assembly

1933
02:57:27,920 --> 02:57:29,140
up here from my point of view.

1934
02:57:30,520 --> 02:57:31,700
Assemblyperson Hale, go ahead.

1935
02:57:31,700 --> 02:57:39,980
Yeah, thank you Madam Mayor, so first first couple things I want to clear up the

1936
02:57:41,120 --> 02:57:45,430
Requirement for a residency to vote at a community council meeting is

1937
02:57:46,760 --> 02:57:54,840
Requirement handed down to us by state law and in trying to burrow code. It is not something that the community council

1938
02:57:54,840 --> 02:57:58,940
changed suddenly in order to cut out non-resident property owners

1939
02:57:58,940 --> 02:58:02,460
that is a state law and burrow co-requirement.

1940
02:58:03,620 --> 02:58:09,500
Second of all, I have attended many community council meetings.

1941
02:58:10,380 --> 02:58:14,720
There is generally very good participation at that meeting.

1942
02:58:15,400 --> 02:58:22,060
The room is usually mostly full except for kind of the and areas around fishing and hunting season.

1943
02:58:22,060 --> 02:58:29,720
and I have never ever seen them tell somebody that they could not speak at one of their meetings.

1944
02:58:30,960 --> 02:58:41,060
I do think that all three options are the best way to go move forward with this because first of all,

1945
02:58:41,180 --> 02:58:51,260
you know, the community council, the comprehensive plans and the special use districts are designed to be created

1946
02:58:51,260 --> 02:58:57,100
by the local community. That is their entire purpose. The entire purpose of community council

1947
02:58:57,100 --> 02:59:03,440
is for residents to have a say in what goes on in their neighborhoods. And to protect

1948
02:59:03,440 --> 02:59:07,500
that, I think we need to have all three options. Now there may be a time when a community

1949
02:59:07,500 --> 02:59:14,380
council asks for option number three, which is obviously the most labor intensive, the most

1950
02:59:15,000 --> 02:59:20,240
costly to the borough, but there may be a time when that's something that they would like

1951
02:59:20,240 --> 02:59:29,000
to see. I'm not a real big fan of option one. I think option one could lead to some plans

1952
02:59:29,000 --> 02:59:40,380
that are half-baked or developed without any kind of knowledge of what the code is and

1953
02:59:40,380 --> 02:59:46,180
what state law permits and does not permit. So I'm not a real big fan of option number one,

1954
02:59:46,180 --> 02:59:52,160
but options number two and number three are very good and the planning department has developed

1955
02:59:52,160 --> 02:59:57,680
this with a lot of thought. Alex puts a lot of thought into the things that he puts together.

1956
02:59:58,440 --> 02:59:59,980
The other thing I would like to know

1957
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:06,860
So is that there is just because non-residents cannot vote at community council meetings, nothing

1958
03:00:06,860 --> 03:00:12,900
precludes the community council from appointing a non-resident property owner or a non-resident

1959
03:00:12,900 --> 03:00:20,760
business owner to the planning team. As you can see from the comprehensive plan that

1960
03:00:20,760 --> 03:00:29,220
was developed from 2006-2014, there was a non-resident on that planning team. So I think

1961
03:00:29,220 --> 03:00:32,840
that all three options are absolutely the way we should go with this.

1962
03:00:34,920 --> 03:00:35,640
Assemblyperson McKee?

1963
03:00:37,480 --> 03:00:41,180
I guess right off the bat I'd like to say that I would like to, I said that three times

1964
03:00:41,180 --> 03:00:41,600
haven't they?

1965
03:00:41,820 --> 03:00:42,880
Postpone this indefinitely.

1966
03:00:43,060 --> 03:00:43,520
Not to you why.

1967
03:00:44,160 --> 03:00:48,060
When the folks first came and I guess it was May I said and said all the things that they

1968
03:00:48,060 --> 03:00:52,140
said I thought about the business out there, all dirty routes they can't do that.

1969
03:00:52,720 --> 03:00:57,900
So what I always try to do, about 99% of the time, if something is presented at Assembly

1970
03:00:57,900 --> 03:01:02,680
me. I don't want to just hear about it. I want to go see it. And so having heard all those

1971
03:01:02,680 --> 03:01:08,800
comments, I went out there and I thought, oh my gosh, this enterprise is amazing. In college,

1972
03:01:09,160 --> 03:01:14,760
travel industry management tourism emphasis was my major. And the reason that I did it is because

1973
03:01:14,760 --> 03:01:18,660
I wanted everybody in the world to come see Alaska and see how beautiful it was so that we would do

1974
03:01:18,660 --> 03:01:23,020
two things. Take care of it on the one hand, the environment. And the second thing is to promote

1975
03:01:23,020 --> 03:01:24,260
to our resource development.

1976
03:01:24,860 --> 03:01:27,060
And the cleanest resource development is tourism,

1977
03:01:27,240 --> 03:01:28,380
they leave a very small footprint.

1978
03:01:28,900 --> 03:01:29,740
So I went out there.

1979
03:01:30,620 --> 03:01:32,880
And I actually even saw two of my former students

1980
03:01:32,880 --> 03:01:33,600
working out there.

1981
03:01:34,460 --> 03:01:36,640
The people that work there think is an incredible place.

1982
03:01:37,480 --> 03:01:41,140
The people that we actually saw a wedding party come back

1983
03:01:41,140 --> 03:01:42,020
in off the glacier.

1984
03:01:42,720 --> 03:01:45,360
And if that was noise, I tell you, I couldn't hear it.

1985
03:01:45,380 --> 03:01:46,100
We were in the lodge.

1986
03:01:47,200 --> 03:01:48,560
And they came in in a helicopter.

1987
03:01:49,020 --> 03:01:51,240
And they don't leave those rotors running for very much

1988
03:01:51,240 --> 03:01:55,920
time because the cost of fuel is just intensely expensive, so they turn it on and take off,

1989
03:01:56,340 --> 03:01:59,980
no more, you don't hear them, they come back, they sit and turn it off right away to say

1990
03:01:59,980 --> 03:02:05,300
the fuel. So I thought, I'm going to go back to the assembly meeting and I'm going to say

1991
03:02:05,740 --> 03:02:11,780
that is a major, amazing operation. If ever in my travel industry management history of studying,

1992
03:02:12,160 --> 03:02:18,380
that would be the poster child for a clean, small footprint operation. But then we come

1993
03:02:18,380 --> 03:02:22,160
back to the meeting tonight and we hear all kinds of other, pretty negative things.

1994
03:02:22,280 --> 03:02:24,220
And we hear the word lies and stuff like that.

1995
03:02:24,800 --> 03:02:26,340
And I don't know where to go with this right now.

1996
03:02:26,820 --> 03:02:32,480
And I can't, I'm just not prepared to vote on something where I am a firm believer in the

1997
03:02:32,480 --> 03:02:35,260
accuser and the accused being together in the same place.

1998
03:02:35,760 --> 03:02:41,020
Because if I hear you one week and you two weeks later, it's like I really don't know who's

1999
03:02:41,020 --> 03:02:41,300
got it.

2000
03:02:41,420 --> 03:02:41,980
You need documentation.

2001
03:02:42,120 --> 03:02:45,060
You need stuff that says this is how this complaint was brought.

2002
03:02:45,480 --> 03:02:51,240
This was how it was resolved because apparently there's a lot of legal stuff going on here. I'm going to hear both sides of it.

2003
03:02:52,580 --> 03:03:01,120
And I just finally, when I die and I go to heaven, and I think that's where I'm headed, and God says, come on in. I'm going to say, no, no, no, send me back to the Matsu Valley.

2004
03:03:01,280 --> 03:03:13,040
Send me out to Connect Glacier maybe, because it's so incredible. And I think both sides have, we have to develop resources, and we have to honor the feelings of the people that live there.

2005
03:03:13,040 --> 03:03:21,320
absolutely, I'd be right in the front of the line, just hanging on to everything I could possibly do, but I think that there must be a compromise in here somewhere.

2006
03:03:22,800 --> 03:03:28,980
And that's the way I want to move forward with it, but I don't see that happening here tonight. I'm not willing to make that kind of a weighty decision.

2007
03:03:29,660 --> 03:03:37,320
So if postponing indefinitely means okay everybody, get back to the drawing board, talk together. Come here together, both sides.

2008
03:03:37,980 --> 03:03:42,480
because I heard a lot of good stuff on, you know, complements on one side and

2009
03:03:42,480 --> 03:03:46,280
negatives on the other. I want to see everybody like in the same room. Let's

2010
03:03:46,280 --> 03:03:48,320
get her done. So that's where I stand.

2011
03:03:50,780 --> 03:03:53,420
I'm sorry, what? Are you recognizing that as a motion?

2012
03:03:53,980 --> 03:03:56,940
Were you making a motion or just a comment at this time?

2013
03:03:57,300 --> 03:04:00,480
Oh, I guess I would make that as a motion. Yeah, so how do I say that?

2014
03:04:00,480 --> 03:04:04,620
I move to postpone this, yeah, resolution indefinitely.

2015
03:04:05,080 --> 03:04:10,680
Okay, so can we discuss the postponement?

2016
03:04:11,620 --> 03:04:18,280
Okay, so we have a motion on the floor to postpone indefinitely, so we come, the discussion

2017
03:04:18,280 --> 03:04:25,280
will have to line up with that motion, okay, assembly person follow up, go ahead.

2018
03:04:27,620 --> 03:04:34,560
So from the testimony, and it was from both sides, as it's presented with only one option,

2019
03:04:35,180 --> 03:04:37,660
nobody really liked it.

2020
03:04:37,880 --> 03:04:44,860
So I believe to expand as many votes as possible.

2021
03:04:44,940 --> 03:04:49,460
So I will actually support your Ms. McKee's decision to vote this down completely.

2022
03:04:49,860 --> 03:04:57,240
And briefly during a break, I've talked to some amendments and said, how can this be done

2023
03:04:57,240 --> 03:04:59,860
so more people that are going to be affected.

2024
03:05:12,020 --> 03:05:29,000
So, if you wanted to move forward with a spot, if there is enough vote majority passes that they do want to move forward with a spot, then we,

2025
03:05:30,060 --> 03:05:36,080
Then we get, then we start moving process, but the way it was, it sounded like some people

2026
03:05:36,080 --> 03:05:37,860
were left out of the process.

2027
03:05:38,460 --> 03:05:45,560
For that reason, I'll support Ms. McKee's proposal, and I do work with attorney to draft

2028
03:05:45,560 --> 03:05:52,260
ordinance so that we have a good, clear mechanism in place, a very democratic process so that

2029
03:05:52,260 --> 03:05:55,360
when the somebody was spot wants to be started,

2030
03:05:57,120 --> 03:05:59,980
that people that are gonna be affected will get your vote.

2031
03:06:00,340 --> 03:06:02,380
Yes, to move forward or not to move forward

2032
03:06:02,380 --> 03:06:06,400
with a spot process, and then if there is enough votes,

2033
03:06:06,680 --> 03:06:07,780
then that moves forward.

2034
03:06:07,900 --> 03:06:09,040
And I think that would be a,

2035
03:06:09,240 --> 03:06:11,860
would set a very good presence moving forward.

2036
03:06:12,020 --> 03:06:15,280
So with that, I hope everybody will support me

2037
03:06:15,800 --> 03:06:17,180
and Ms. McKee, thank you.

2038
03:06:18,120 --> 03:06:19,320
Okay, Assemblyperson Hale?

2039
03:06:19,960 --> 03:06:21,060
Yeah, I'd just like to point out

2040
03:06:21,060 --> 03:06:33,260
About that post-poinist indefinitely would revert us back to the process that currently exists, which is very clunky, and Alex does not like very much.

2041
03:06:34,180 --> 03:06:44,860
In fact, it's so clunky that when we passed the original resolution saying that we were going to help South Connect, we were community council develop their spud.

2042
03:06:44,860 --> 03:06:53,500
And we made a notwithstanding clause in that resolution Mr. Gamble put forward the amendment

2043
03:06:53,500 --> 03:06:58,500
notwithstanding the current guidelines on the process because it was so clunky.

2044
03:06:58,900 --> 03:07:06,940
So we're going to go back to a process which we set aside specifically for the South

2045
03:07:06,940 --> 03:07:09,640
connect river, community council, spot, so.

2046
03:07:10,500 --> 03:07:11,700
Somebody first from the key?

2047
03:07:12,880 --> 03:07:15,180
Clunker or not, it's,

2048
03:07:15,380 --> 03:07:17,320
it's something has to be done differently.

2049
03:07:17,920 --> 03:07:20,900
You, one of was referring to a lake's management plan

2050
03:07:20,900 --> 03:07:23,260
where they crossed all the tees and dotted all the eyes

2051
03:07:23,260 --> 03:07:25,060
and came here with a 54% margin.

2052
03:07:25,060 --> 03:07:27,140
They only needed a 50 or 51 something like that.

2053
03:07:28,200 --> 03:07:30,440
And I don't know that the assembly, what we were doing,

2054
03:07:30,460 --> 03:07:33,920
but we voted it down and said there wasn't enough

2055
03:07:33,920 --> 03:07:34,660
representation.

2056
03:07:35,300 --> 03:07:36,580
Maybe that's key here.

2057
03:07:36,580 --> 03:07:40,140
not enough representation, we see a few people here tonight, they're very passionate as

2058
03:07:40,140 --> 03:07:44,880
I would be. We hope to be the business owner who's very passionate as I would be, and

2059
03:07:44,880 --> 03:07:50,920
some people that work for him. I think that we, if we don't do that, we're going to try

2060
03:07:50,920 --> 03:07:58,120
to pass this thing, not having enough really hard information to actually make a fair decision.

2061
03:07:58,300 --> 03:08:02,320
I don't want to go through the Beverly Lakes thing again. I want everybody who should

2062
03:08:02,320 --> 03:08:06,320
be involved, to be involved. And that includes us. I don't like to vote on something when I'm

2063
03:08:06,320 --> 03:08:07,680
I'm not sure about it, you know what?

2064
03:08:07,840 --> 03:08:09,020
I ain't sure of it.

2065
03:08:10,700 --> 03:08:12,500
Okay, do you have any more here?

2066
03:08:13,380 --> 03:08:14,740
I have a question to staff.

2067
03:08:16,040 --> 03:08:17,620
What's the population of South Pnek?

2068
03:08:20,280 --> 03:08:20,540
Anybody?

2069
03:08:26,080 --> 03:08:26,360
Okay.

2070
03:08:30,410 --> 03:08:33,290
So there's quite a few people that could weigh in.

2071
03:08:42,080 --> 03:08:44,120
I just trying to do some numbers in my head here

2072
03:08:45,060 --> 03:08:48,540
versus what we've heard tonight and I agree.

2073
03:08:48,760 --> 03:08:51,600
Everybody's got an opinion on one way or the other,

2074
03:08:51,880 --> 03:08:55,040
but there's a lot of people that don't have

2075
03:08:55,040 --> 03:09:00,900
a say right now that should have a say and that's I just want it equal for

2076
03:09:00,900 --> 03:09:01,500
everybody.

2077
03:09:07,340 --> 03:09:09,620
Thank you Madam Mayor.

2078
03:09:12,480 --> 03:09:13,680
I've been through the

2079
03:09:13,680 --> 03:09:17,400
comp plan process ours took between that and Lake Management I think it was

2080
03:09:17,400 --> 03:09:21,540
five years total and the Lake Management Plan was even more controversial than

2081
03:09:21,540 --> 03:09:24,900
the comp plan we actually had to have troopers come do a couple of our meetings

2082
03:09:24,900 --> 03:09:30,820
because of all the people from Anchorage it came out that didn't have a vote but they own

2083
03:09:30,820 --> 03:09:32,620
property in big like.

2084
03:09:35,300 --> 03:09:39,920
So I get how controversial it can be and I simply remember Faunov and

2085
03:09:39,920 --> 03:09:50,540
I were talking about maybe having a vote similar to an LID process where we could pull the residents,

2086
03:09:50,540 --> 03:09:53,080
of the property owners in South

2087
03:09:53,080 --> 03:09:55,060
Connecticut River and see how

2088
03:09:55,060 --> 03:09:57,740
many are for a spot and how

2089
03:09:57,740 --> 03:09:59,480
many aren't that maybe a good

2090
03:09:59,480 --> 03:09:59,820
starting.

2091
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:07,260
Point for the process. Thank you. For their discussion by the assembly, yes, and the personnel.

2092
03:10:09,340 --> 03:10:29,720
I just want to say that Ms. McKee, I don't think tonight we're trying to resolve the dispute in Kinnick. We're trying to find a process by which communities can come to us and express a vision for what they want. You know, we did.

2093
03:10:30,760 --> 03:10:33,520
have this come before the assembly and that was advertised.

2094
03:10:34,860 --> 03:10:36,940
So people had the ability to come forward.

2095
03:10:37,120 --> 03:10:40,200
You know, we all are familiar with, you put it out there,

2096
03:10:40,320 --> 03:10:44,840
but people don't, they don't hear about it or they don't know.

2097
03:10:47,380 --> 03:10:50,900
I don't know about the idea of having a vote.

2098
03:10:51,060 --> 03:10:56,320
If you, you know, on LID, we mail to 15 people, 15 property owners.

2099
03:10:57,980 --> 03:11:05,760
and just in that recent one we had only what seven, nine responded.

2100
03:11:08,340 --> 03:11:09,820
It's a really expensive

2101
03:11:09,820 --> 03:11:14,980
way to try to get people to vote and it doesn't seem like it seems like a lot of people don't

2102
03:11:14,980 --> 03:11:21,040
respond to that and or and or don't get their mail. I mean the number of times people

2103
03:11:21,040 --> 03:11:29,720
said I didn't see it. I didn't know existed. I guess where I'm at is these three options allow a

2104
03:11:29,720 --> 03:11:38,420
community to get started and they will have a voice because more often than not what happens is

2105
03:11:38,420 --> 03:11:50,020
despite sometimes the best efforts of the people working on it to reach out to folks, there'll be

2106
03:11:50,020 --> 03:12:03,120
burden most of the time, the bias is these things will not pass, so I do think that the voice is there, it just allows the community to get going, and our process is community councils.

2107
03:12:03,960 --> 03:12:11,060
That is how this burrow has set up for the community to have a voice, and anybody who is an area resident can be on that.

2108
03:12:11,060 --> 03:12:35,900
So, as far as postponing indefinitely, I could support postponing for a month to give the community councils more time, but I want to give communities an option to move forward and staff the ability to offer different levels of service because if staff spends a hundred hours on this, that's a lot of time.

2109
03:12:35,900 --> 03:12:46,580
And you know, without, whereas if you have this process in place, there's some levels of amount of work they're going to do on it, but the community says this is what has to specify.

2110
03:12:47,000 --> 03:12:52,680
So I see moving forward with the three options as an improvement over the current process.

2111
03:12:54,620 --> 03:12:55,440
Assemblyperson Hale?

2112
03:12:55,440 --> 03:13:04,160
Yeah, thank you Madam Mayor, I would absolutely support taking a vote of folks on the on the on the

2113
03:13:04,160 --> 03:13:13,240
Spud after the final draft was prepared. With an LID when you get the ballot with the LID it tells

2114
03:13:13,240 --> 03:13:18,380
you exactly what's going to be what exactly what work is going to be performed exactly how much

2115
03:13:18,380 --> 03:13:25,600
is going to cost you. So I think that that is an excellent idea when the final version comes out,

2116
03:13:25,760 --> 03:13:32,920
when whoever has decided upon the final version, we send it to the community out,

2117
03:13:33,580 --> 03:13:39,980
we could put it on the ballot during the general election, just specifically for that precinct,

2118
03:13:40,180 --> 03:13:47,420
we could mail them the ballots, like we do for LIDs, whatever, that would be fine. But I think it's

2119
03:13:47,420 --> 03:13:52,160
premature to send a letter to somebody saying, hey, would you be in favor of a

2120
03:13:52,160 --> 03:14:00,140
spud when they don't even know what that spud might entail? So if I would be in

2121
03:14:00,140 --> 03:14:05,860
favor of post-poning but not indefinitely, if there are other community

2122
03:14:05,860 --> 03:14:09,800
councils, we saw a lot of letters from community council presidents in our

2123
03:14:09,800 --> 03:14:14,720
packet saying, you know, as a community council we'd like the way in on this to

2124
03:14:14,720 --> 03:14:21,540
to give community councils a time to weigh in on it, to give assembly members time to

2125
03:14:21,540 --> 03:14:27,100
draft any type of amendments they might like to see to the process that we could consider.

2126
03:14:27,800 --> 03:14:35,280
I would offer a secondary amendment, Madam Clerk, I would offer a secondary amendment

2127
03:14:37,120 --> 03:14:40,480
postponements for, let's say,

2128
03:14:42,840 --> 03:14:46,780
well, after the election, obviously, yes.

2129
03:14:47,160 --> 03:14:50,040
A motion to postpone indefinitely is not amendable.

2130
03:14:50,260 --> 03:14:51,780
It's not amendable, well done.

2131
03:14:52,820 --> 03:14:54,380
I oppose indefinitely.

2132
03:14:54,960 --> 03:14:57,880
I was hoping it was amendable because I'm liking what you're saying.

2133
03:14:58,240 --> 03:14:59,020
Can I speak now?

2134
03:14:59,020 --> 03:14:59,780
or do we have a dream?

2135
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:17,260
You can withdraw. Can I withdraw? Yeah. Okay. I would draw the post, what did I say? Yeah, because I want there to be more flexibility. So, okay, that's, that's a done deal right now. Can I can? And then you have to ask if there's any objection to any objection? Yeah, her.

2136
03:15:20,960 --> 03:15:29,940
Okay. The motion has been made to or she has withdrawn her motion to postpone indefinitely. Is there objection?

2137
03:15:29,940 --> 03:15:33,280
from the assembly for her to do that.

2138
03:15:34,080 --> 03:15:35,500
You have an objection?

2139
03:15:36,260 --> 03:15:39,700
Okay. So I guess now we need to vote on that.

2140
03:15:40,160 --> 03:15:40,300
Okay.

2141
03:15:41,740 --> 03:15:46,600
So the motion before you is to postpone indefinitely.

2142
03:15:47,220 --> 03:15:48,520
Hold on, Madam Mayor.

2143
03:15:48,860 --> 03:15:49,620
Okay, just a minute.

2144
03:15:50,460 --> 03:15:51,280
Let me think this through.

2145
03:15:51,580 --> 03:15:54,580
Doesn't happen very often when somebody tries to withdraw their motion.

2146
03:15:55,200 --> 03:15:57,420
Okay. So is it vote to withdraw?

2147
03:15:57,420 --> 03:15:58,640
All right.

2148
03:16:01,860 --> 03:16:03,780
So the motion on the floor is to withdraw.

2149
03:16:06,980 --> 03:16:15,240
If you vote yes, you are in favor

2150
03:16:15,240 --> 03:16:20,440
of withdrawing the motion and if you vote no, you want the motion to postpone and definitely

2151
03:16:20,440 --> 03:16:23,320
to remain on the floor. Sorry, that took me a little bit to get through.

2152
03:16:23,320 --> 03:16:29,360
Okay. So is everybody understand? Okay. All right. So, Madam Clerk, go ahead.

2153
03:16:29,820 --> 03:16:30,780
Assemblymember Gamble.

2154
03:16:32,890 --> 03:16:39,130
Madam Mayor, with draw pass with Assemblymember Fawnoff in

2155
03:16:39,130 --> 03:16:45,190
Bernier a post. Okay. Can I speak now about? No, I want to make a new motion.

2156
03:16:47,790 --> 03:16:53,250
I want to talk about post-poning, absolutely, but post-pone a month, something of

2157
03:16:53,250 --> 03:16:55,870
this magnitude, I think is not enough time?

2158
03:16:56,050 --> 03:16:57,010
Well, certainly in the world.

2159
03:16:57,570 --> 03:16:57,930
I've been watching them.

2160
03:16:58,630 --> 03:16:59,570
Am I not supposed to talk?

2161
03:16:59,910 --> 03:17:00,090
No.

2162
03:17:01,770 --> 03:17:03,570
But what time are you talking about?

2163
03:17:03,570 --> 03:17:03,870
I don't know.

2164
03:17:03,930 --> 03:17:04,630
You're doing the hand driving.

2165
03:17:04,790 --> 03:17:07,150
I thought I was supposed to shut up, but um,

2166
03:17:09,450 --> 03:17:11,710
I just, you know,

2167
03:17:11,790 --> 03:17:13,830
when you look at LIDs and Stephanie,

2168
03:17:14,010 --> 03:17:15,330
you were saying that they're expensive or somebody

2169
03:17:15,330 --> 03:17:16,790
was saying they're expensive and blah, blah, blah, blah.

2170
03:17:16,910 --> 03:17:17,630
Well, maybe they are.

2171
03:17:17,790 --> 03:17:20,130
But maybe when you look at the way those things are so

2172
03:17:23,150 --> 03:17:23,790
definitively resolved.

2173
03:17:24,490 --> 03:17:25,150
It's on paper.

2174
03:17:25,310 --> 03:17:25,890
You had the chance.

2175
03:17:26,030 --> 03:17:28,790
It tells who, to me, that really works.

2176
03:17:28,890 --> 03:17:30,590
I wish we had done that with the Lix Management thing.

2177
03:17:31,010 --> 03:17:33,730
But with this, there is such passion here.

2178
03:17:36,370 --> 03:17:38,790
And I want to know who really does want what?

2179
03:17:39,310 --> 03:17:40,330
You can say all you want.

2180
03:17:40,450 --> 03:17:42,290
Well, she said this or she said that or whatever.

2181
03:17:42,650 --> 03:17:45,050
But it is not on paper and it's not set out like an LID.

2182
03:17:45,050 --> 03:17:45,910
It doesn't mean anything.

2183
03:17:46,190 --> 03:17:46,930
I was going to say a bad word.

2184
03:17:47,030 --> 03:17:48,050
It doesn't mean anything to me.

2185
03:17:48,050 --> 03:17:54,870
But really, I think this deserves all parties to be heard and no excuses.

2186
03:17:55,190 --> 03:17:56,270
You don't vote, you don't vote.

2187
03:17:56,990 --> 03:17:57,550
That's on you.

2188
03:17:58,190 --> 03:18:00,770
But this way, it's just too much he said she said kind of a thing.

2189
03:18:01,090 --> 03:18:05,790
So I don't know, you want to, you want to, somebody suggest a time other than just a month.

2190
03:18:05,870 --> 03:18:07,830
Got to be more than that for me.

2191
03:18:10,650 --> 03:18:14,550
Assembly person, assembly person, the hails input.

2192
03:18:18,430 --> 03:18:23,290
Thank you Madam Mayor. I would move to postpone until the first meeting in December.

2193
03:18:24,430 --> 03:18:27,650
First meeting in December. That would be December 3rd.

2194
03:18:27,670 --> 03:18:27,850
Okay.

2195
03:18:30,510 --> 03:18:35,530
Discussion on the motion to postpone until December 3rd.

2196
03:18:38,370 --> 03:18:43,130
Discussion? Any objection? Could I ask one more thing before we shut this down?

2197
03:18:43,130 --> 03:18:52,400
Now, how do we convey to the folks who are involved in this that an LID paper process

2198
03:18:52,400 --> 03:18:53,000
would be better?

2199
03:18:53,140 --> 03:18:55,560
I mean, Alex, do we do that with you, or how do we do that?

2200
03:18:56,640 --> 03:18:58,360
Because I think that's what out of come out of this.

2201
03:18:58,900 --> 03:18:59,740
Something really concrete.

2202
03:19:03,510 --> 03:19:04,110
Go ahead, sir.

2203
03:19:04,610 --> 03:19:11,050
If you want to answer, if not, say you pass it to the boss, or you want to do.

2204
03:19:11,590 --> 03:19:12,590
Well, thank you, Madam Mayor.

2205
03:19:12,590 --> 03:19:20,130
If this gets postponed until time certain in December, we would send out this draft to the community council's asking for their input.

2206
03:19:20,770 --> 03:19:23,090
Anything additional that you wanted to put in there?

2207
03:19:24,930 --> 03:19:28,630
I don't know, I guess I would put in some definite instructions.

2208
03:19:29,010 --> 03:19:29,850
Yes, that what you're saying.

2209
03:19:30,090 --> 03:19:30,230
Yes.

2210
03:19:31,190 --> 03:19:39,970
And there are some instructions that are automatic with your motion, but if you want additional instructions, then it needs to be discussed at this point.

2211
03:19:39,970 --> 03:19:42,730
And when I'm sorry what discussed when

2212
03:19:44,310 --> 03:19:46,870
Then it has to be discussed when if it's additional

2213
03:19:47,570 --> 03:19:55,450
Well, yeah now I guess right so they would know then how to reach out to not only that community council

2214
03:19:55,450 --> 03:19:58,210
But all the community councils right because that's

2215
03:20:04,400 --> 03:20:14,020
So can we actually ask, I guess it's Alex, to do whatever you do, and just have to say, like,

2216
03:20:14,020 --> 03:20:19,140
these things, I don't know the link, oh, I really don't, but Mike's going to help us, sorry.

2217
03:20:19,260 --> 03:20:20,640
Well, I don't know if I'm going to help you.

2218
03:20:22,880 --> 03:20:27,860
So through the mayor, I think what we're saying is what we're hearing, and this is why we brought

2219
03:20:27,860 --> 03:20:33,660
forward, right? These topics are often contentious. So we wanted to make sure the assembly had some

2220
03:20:33,660 --> 03:20:39,460
input on the front end, not the back end when we handed you a product. So I understand it's not a

2221
03:20:39,460 --> 03:20:45,100
fund debate necessarily, but I think what we're saying from what I'm hearing is we would take the

2222
03:20:45,100 --> 03:20:49,700
existing process that's drafted on tonight's agenda, and we would get that out to all the community

2223
03:20:49,700 --> 03:20:55,200
councils and allow them to provide input. If the assembly wants to look at a process by which you

2224
03:20:55,200 --> 03:21:02,780
to use like an LID or Lake Management Petitioning process as part of the adoption for a

2225
03:21:04,020 --> 03:21:08,740
spud. We would need somebody to kind of make that motion and agree as a body that that's

2226
03:21:08,740 --> 03:21:12,360
what you want. We would incorporate that in and send that out to the community councils.

2227
03:21:12,720 --> 03:21:16,400
If you're not ready to do that tonight, we'll send what we have out, but it won't have

2228
03:21:16,400 --> 03:21:20,780
that adjustment in it. And then that would give you time as an assembly member if you want

2229
03:21:20,780 --> 03:21:24,880
to work with Alex and draft an amendment down the line, but that likely wouldn't have

2230
03:21:24,880 --> 03:21:29,600
community council review by the time we come back on December 3rd, is that fair?

2231
03:21:30,500 --> 03:21:35,460
So if you, if it seems like there might be an appetite for a petition process, if you

2232
03:21:35,460 --> 03:21:40,040
want that, make, somebody make a motion, we, we, you can talk about that, and then we can

2233
03:21:40,040 --> 03:21:42,240
incorporate it in the process before it goes out to Queenie Council.

2234
03:21:42,600 --> 03:21:43,500
Can I make that motion?

2235
03:21:44,280 --> 03:21:44,480
Okay.

2236
03:21:44,720 --> 03:21:45,260
Just a minute.

2237
03:21:45,720 --> 03:21:45,840
Oh.

2238
03:21:46,020 --> 03:21:50,220
I think maybe the clerk has some input here, so can you hold a minute?

2239
03:21:50,700 --> 03:21:51,240
Okay, go ahead.

2240
03:21:51,240 --> 03:21:56,840
I think the issue I'm having right now is we have a resolution in front of us or the assembly does

2241
03:21:56,840 --> 03:22:02,700
There's no amendments to it, but you're trying to give different direction than what the resolution's stating

2242
03:22:04,180 --> 03:22:08,380
So I don't think I mean you can always direct the manager to

2243
03:22:08,380 --> 03:22:10,360
float these other ideas

2244
03:22:10,360 --> 03:22:16,300
But I wouldn't include it in the adoption of this resolution maybe do it under comments at the end

2245
03:22:16,300 --> 03:22:20,960
So would we, at this point, say we want what was our first meeting in December?

2246
03:22:21,100 --> 03:22:21,840
Where are you voting for that?

2247
03:22:22,260 --> 03:22:30,260
Yeah, the motion that's on the floor now is to postpone until December 3rd.

2248
03:22:30,300 --> 03:22:30,520
Okay.

2249
03:22:30,900 --> 03:22:31,660
Can we get that then?

2250
03:22:32,140 --> 03:22:38,020
And so like what the clerk was saying, if you want to send out candy canes with that,

2251
03:22:38,300 --> 03:22:40,420
when you send it to the committee, that's Christmas time.

2252
03:22:40,660 --> 03:22:41,880
Yeah, it's Christmas time.

2253
03:22:41,880 --> 03:22:46,780
You know, then under the parting comments you have tonight, then you would give

2254
03:22:46,780 --> 03:22:48,700
those instructions to the lawyer.

2255
03:22:49,120 --> 03:22:52,540
So right now we're just going to vote on who's voting until December or whenever,

2256
03:22:52,860 --> 03:22:53,620
first meeting in December.

2257
03:22:55,100 --> 03:22:55,660
Okay.

2258
03:22:55,680 --> 03:22:58,880
Can I have people down here?

2259
03:22:59,280 --> 03:23:00,260
Clerk, okay.

2260
03:23:00,660 --> 03:23:01,040
All righty.

2261
03:23:01,240 --> 03:23:01,980
Question of staff.

2262
03:23:03,400 --> 03:23:10,080
What did the Planning Committee, I know they voted towards option three, but that was,

2263
03:23:10,080 --> 03:23:12,340
Can you give us more detail?

2264
03:23:17,150 --> 03:23:20,870
This is a motion to postpone, so let's take care of this first.

2265
03:23:21,250 --> 03:23:25,210
Well, instead of kicking the can down the road, I'm trying to get some information,

2266
03:23:27,010 --> 03:23:31,230
because in all reality, I think you should actually just kick.

2267
03:23:32,330 --> 03:23:34,650
Stop this resolution and send him back.

2268
03:23:35,210 --> 03:23:37,430
What do you, Deputy Mayor, what do you want from staff?

2269
03:23:38,210 --> 03:23:42,550
I want to know what planning, the planning commission had come up with,

2270
03:23:42,550 --> 03:23:45,970
because it didn't sound like they really wanted any of the three.

2271
03:23:46,710 --> 03:23:52,590
I think what Demetri and Bill was saying about doing an LID style,

2272
03:23:53,010 --> 03:23:56,930
that would be an option four or option five.

2273
03:23:57,190 --> 03:23:58,390
There's a couple more things.

2274
03:23:58,390 --> 03:24:00,210
We have to deal with the motion to follow.

2275
03:24:00,210 --> 03:24:04,010
Right, so I'm trying to say, hey, instead of kicking the can down the road,

2276
03:24:04,430 --> 03:24:06,410
let's shut this down, let's send it back,

2277
03:24:06,550 --> 03:24:10,550
and let's have a good plan to introduce to everybody.

2278
03:24:10,550 --> 03:24:28,070
The motion on the floor is what we need to discuss, that's the motion to postpone till December 3rd, okay, so Jim, no, go ahead.

2279
03:24:29,130 --> 03:24:36,410
I oppose the December thing, we have a, it seems like it's far away, but in reality it's not.

2280
03:24:39,250 --> 03:24:56,710
Because if we're going to take a decision such a big thing that affects, depending on the answers that were out from the public, from 902,000 people or families or residents, and then we're only going to send letters to community council, which is very limited.

2281
03:24:56,710 --> 03:24:59,970
I believe that's still not going to give us that food.

2282
03:25:02,320 --> 03:25:29,380
I still want to see the shutdown. We mail out and Mr. Hale said if we send out and notice, I think anybody who got the mail will take very seriously when they see an envelope from the burrow type of thing. Even if there is no details, but it says the community council is requesting to move forward with a spot or something along those lines. And now you can participate. That is a very well informed public.

2283
03:25:29,380 --> 03:25:35,120
And those that then choose not to participate, they lost out on an opportunity.

2284
03:25:35,820 --> 03:25:47,120
Depending on that number, how many stamps we need to use, I think it's a minimal cost relative to what impact that it would have for businesses, for residents, and things like that.

2285
03:25:47,280 --> 03:25:53,640
So I don't think that's enough time I'm going to vote down on this specific date because we're just kind of named the date.

2286
03:25:53,640 --> 03:26:00,660
and then vote on a process and I think effort that Alex has put forward, that doesn't defeat

2287
03:26:00,660 --> 03:26:05,720
the purpose, that template and so that's already in place.

2288
03:26:06,180 --> 03:26:11,800
But the process to get to that I think needs to be more democratic and then once we got

2289
03:26:11,800 --> 03:26:17,760
enough yes and support to move forward with a spot, then those efforts will move forward.

2290
03:26:17,760 --> 03:26:20,540
So I don't think one is not on the way of each other.

2291
03:26:21,200 --> 03:26:28,100
I do want to postpone this indefinitely, reach out to community, whether it's 900 or 2000.

2292
03:26:29,060 --> 03:26:34,280
And then based on that reference, based on those results, we'll move forward.

2293
03:26:34,420 --> 03:26:40,300
I think it's a very reasonable request with that, that's what I would love to see as I'm

2294
03:26:40,300 --> 03:26:40,820
related to today.

2295
03:26:41,720 --> 03:26:41,940
Okay.

2296
03:26:42,200 --> 03:26:48,720
So the motion before you is to postpone until December 3rd, is everybody ready to vote?

2297
03:26:56,380 --> 03:26:59,980
Madam Mayor, it failed with Assembly Member Hale in hours in support.

2298
03:27:00,460 --> 03:27:00,880
Okay.

2299
03:27:01,600 --> 03:27:01,820
All right.

2300
03:27:01,920 --> 03:27:06,060
So now we're back with the resolution before, Deputy Mayor.

2301
03:27:07,700 --> 03:27:08,660
I call the question.

2302
03:27:11,890 --> 03:27:12,330
All righty.

2303
03:27:12,850 --> 03:27:16,550
So now is there objection to calling the question?

2304
03:27:23,320 --> 03:27:23,800
Sorry.

2305
03:27:26,920 --> 03:27:34,600
So we have to vote, we voted on the, on the, there was no, you can object to calling

2306
03:27:34,600 --> 03:27:41,360
the question and then that will make everybody vote, but you can't have comment at this

2307
03:27:41,360 --> 03:27:41,680
time.

2308
03:27:41,880 --> 03:27:42,080
Okay.

2309
03:27:42,480 --> 03:27:42,600
Okay.

2310
03:27:42,780 --> 03:27:51,000
So we're calling the question, we'll stop debate and if you're, I ask if there was any objection

2311
03:27:51,000 --> 03:27:53,220
If you are objecting,

2312
03:27:56,360 --> 03:28:00,760
okay, okay, so is there any objection to calling the question?

2313
03:28:01,620 --> 03:28:08,180
Okay, so then that stops debate and we have before us the motion to adopt, right?

2314
03:28:09,300 --> 03:28:15,240
We have before you, you have the motion to adopt the resolution and

2315
03:28:17,640 --> 03:28:20,200
no discussion because you've cut off debate.

2316
03:28:22,000 --> 03:28:26,000
Okay. Madam Mayor, it failed with Assembly Member Hale and now we're in support.

2317
03:28:26,640 --> 03:28:31,810
Okay. All right, so that takes care of the resolution.

2318
03:28:32,910 --> 03:28:34,550
So where do we go from here on that?

2319
03:28:35,590 --> 03:28:37,110
Right there, that way, and right there.

2320
03:28:38,270 --> 03:28:46,270
You can, as we discussed earlier, under your parting comments, tonight for your parting

2321
03:28:46,270 --> 03:28:51,790
comments if you have some instructions or Mr. Attorney's raising his finger at me.

2322
03:28:52,630 --> 03:28:55,670
I was going to offer another alternative seeing as how it's going to be late at the end

2323
03:28:55,670 --> 03:28:56,050
of the night.

2324
03:28:57,150 --> 03:29:01,930
Every person at this table with the exception of the clerk and I has the power to introduce

2325
03:29:01,930 --> 03:29:03,090
ordinances and resolutions.

2326
03:29:03,730 --> 03:29:08,810
You are free to talk with administration or law tomorrow when you're clear headed next

2327
03:29:08,810 --> 03:29:15,050
week when you get some input and direct someone to bring forward legislation and the manager's

2328
03:29:15,050 --> 03:29:15,610
nodding as well.

2329
03:29:15,610 --> 03:29:25,610
So if you can't form your thoughts tonight or it gets too late or you're just too, we can move on and it's not that the opportunity is lost.

2330
03:29:29,110 --> 03:29:29,590
Okay.

2331
03:29:29,750 --> 03:29:33,750
Okay. Everybody's straight now. We're ready to move for the next item.

2332
03:29:34,310 --> 03:29:34,410
Okay.

2333
03:29:36,490 --> 03:29:44,050
Resolution 24105, a resolution directly manager to place a display in the lobby of the Dorothy's one of Jones building to include the ten commandments.

2334
03:29:44,050 --> 03:29:52,030
Magna Carta, the Mayflower Compact, Declaration of Independence, and the preambles to the United States Constitution and Alaska Constitution.

2335
03:29:52,470 --> 03:29:53,930
Assemblymember Bernier pulled it.

2336
03:29:55,190 --> 03:29:59,950
I move RS 24-105, and I'd like to speak.

2337
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:28,140
Let me speak to it. Yes, go ahead, sir. So, we homeschooled at home there. I've got nine kids. And some of the stuff that we were going over is history. And I get a lot of comments like, you know, declaration independence. It's kind of sunfaded and squarely writing. You can't even read it and this and that. So we took and got it in English.

2338
03:30:28,140 --> 03:30:32,280
to where we can actually read it and stuff like that.

2339
03:30:32,840 --> 03:30:38,120
And I was showing them, you know, on this display that I want

2340
03:30:38,120 --> 03:30:42,440
to put here in the lobby, it starts off with the 10 Commandments

2341
03:30:42,440 --> 03:30:45,720
because those were the first kind of laws that we had.

2342
03:30:47,760 --> 03:30:52,920
And then I go to the Magna Carta because that's when the land

2343
03:30:52,920 --> 03:31:00,640
parents when they had a tyrannical king and they wanted equal

2344
03:31:02,910 --> 03:31:04,990
rights and stuff.

2345
03:31:06,110 --> 03:31:12,690
And so all this display is basically a history of law, how we come to our laws today.

2346
03:31:13,510 --> 03:31:17,990
And it starts off with the Ten Commandments, the Magna Carta, the Mayflower Compact.

2347
03:31:17,990 --> 03:31:23,050
that was the first set of laws in the U.S. in 1620,

2348
03:31:24,390 --> 03:31:27,630
then go say, or declaration of independence,

2349
03:31:28,730 --> 03:31:31,770
and then the preamble to the Constitution,

2350
03:31:32,430 --> 03:31:34,770
and then our Alaska Constitution, preamble.

2351
03:31:35,590 --> 03:31:36,890
But these are things that,

2352
03:31:37,290 --> 03:31:38,850
unless you know your history,

2353
03:31:39,090 --> 03:31:40,630
you don't have anything to be proud of.

2354
03:31:41,090 --> 03:31:42,590
Once you know your history,

2355
03:31:42,770 --> 03:31:44,910
where you came from, how we got here,

2356
03:31:44,910 --> 03:31:54,370
Those are, that's all, very, very important, that's what's wrong with this culture today.

2357
03:31:54,710 --> 03:31:55,990
They don't know where they came from.

2358
03:31:56,650 --> 03:31:58,890
They just, they came from this thing.

2359
03:32:02,880 --> 03:32:06,980
For the discussion on the emotion, Assemblyperson Hale, go ahead.

2360
03:32:07,260 --> 03:32:08,120
Yeah, thank you, Madam Mayor.

2361
03:32:08,680 --> 03:32:17,180
I would like to move to adopt or move to amend Resolution 24-105 by placing the words synopsis

2362
03:32:17,180 --> 03:32:21,280
of the code of Hammurabi at the beginning of the list of documents.

2363
03:32:22,200 --> 03:32:23,540
I'd like to speak to it if I may.

2364
03:32:24,000 --> 03:32:30,240
Yeah, the code of Hammurabi is one of the second oldest legal code

2365
03:32:30,240 --> 03:32:38,300
that we have archeological evidence for and is considered the most comprehensive

2366
03:32:38,300 --> 03:32:45,180
legal code of the Bronze Age and is so well respected

2367
03:32:45,180 --> 03:32:54,560
in the history and lawmaking areas that a bust of Hammarabi is actually carved into

2368
03:32:54,560 --> 03:32:56,500
the walls of the United States Capitol.

2369
03:32:58,680 --> 03:32:59,020
Right.

2370
03:32:59,180 --> 03:33:05,320
So we have motion to amend to add further discussion on that motion.

2371
03:33:07,580 --> 03:33:12,060
That was actually on our list of things to put in there.

2372
03:33:12,160 --> 03:33:15,280
We were just afraid that it was getting too busy or too big.

2373
03:33:15,280 --> 03:33:23,480
but I support Tim's amendment and I got a second amendment.

2374
03:33:27,690 --> 03:33:28,610
I moved to a

2375
03:33:28,610 --> 03:33:34,770
man resolution. I think he or did you make a motion to a man so he's already

2376
03:33:34,770 --> 03:33:40,490
made a motion to amend. Okay. And then on. So now it's the discussion on whether you

2377
03:33:40,490 --> 03:33:46,830
want to adopt that amendment, okay, further questions, further discussion,

2378
03:33:49,530 --> 03:33:49,950
any

2379
03:33:49,950 --> 03:33:52,590
objection to the adding of that,

2380
03:33:55,150 --> 03:34:00,690
okay, so now before you is resolution 24-105

2381
03:34:00,690 --> 03:34:03,610
as amended, further discussion on that,

2382
03:34:08,950 --> 03:34:12,590
Assemblyperson McKee. I was as all of you

2383
03:34:12,590 --> 03:34:18,010
know by now, 26-year teacher of middle school and my one of my assignments was

2384
03:34:18,010 --> 03:34:20,830
of social studies and studying the three great religions

2385
03:34:20,830 --> 03:34:23,590
of the world, which were Judaism, Christianity, Islam.

2386
03:34:24,390 --> 03:34:27,030
And all of these things built on each other.

2387
03:34:27,610 --> 03:34:30,490
So when you have a document like the Constitution,

2388
03:34:30,490 --> 03:34:33,450
you gotta say, okay, what went on before this?

2389
03:34:34,070 --> 03:34:37,870
And so to exclude the Ten Commandments,

2390
03:34:37,990 --> 03:34:45,330
or things like that, it's put aside the intentions

2391
03:34:45,330 --> 03:34:47,050
of the people who were drawing up the document

2392
03:34:47,050 --> 03:34:54,070
And the very first thing that I was looking at, Thomas Jefferson, on every question of construction,

2393
03:34:54,250 --> 03:34:59,850
let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect a spirit manifested in the debates.

2394
03:35:00,000 --> 03:35:29,140
And instead of trying what meaning maybe squeezed out of the text or invented against it, conform to the probable, probable one in which it was passed. And they certainly consulted these other kinds of documents historically. And when I taught that in public school, if you think that I could teach the religions in the world as a religious matter, you'd be dead wrong. I would have been gone longer than 26 years. It was historical. That's a history that we have. It's written. So to say, well, it's religion.

2395
03:35:29,140 --> 03:35:33,880
Yeah, that's kind of half religion, half the loss of the half government, half the law, a lot of halves there.

2396
03:35:34,600 --> 03:35:45,140
But the whole idea is that we are simply, as Rhonda was saying, establishing the history of who we are today based on where we all came from.

2397
03:35:45,960 --> 03:35:55,640
And to say that religion is somehow, let me say, one time I was giving a dissertation on ESOP's Fables and somebody said, well, you can't teach that.

2398
03:35:55,860 --> 03:35:55,960
Why?

2399
03:35:55,960 --> 03:36:02,000
Why? Because it has a moral. Yeah, that's why he wrote them. So we've gotten so far a

2400
03:36:02,000 --> 03:36:10,720
field from what Thomas Jefferson just said that is absurd. A couple of other guys. Well,

2401
03:36:10,740 --> 03:36:16,400
now I'll get to it. George Washington and his farewell address of all the dispositions and

2402
03:36:16,400 --> 03:36:22,060
habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports.

2403
03:36:22,560 --> 03:36:24,360
That's George Washington, pretty famous guy.

2404
03:36:25,040 --> 03:36:28,800
Finally, Benjamin Franklin said, I have so much faith in the general government of the

2405
03:36:28,800 --> 03:36:33,780
world by Providence, Capitol P, that I can hardly conceive a transaction of such a momentous

2406
03:36:33,780 --> 03:36:38,340
importance to the welfare of millions, should be suffered to pass without being in some degree

2407
03:36:38,340 --> 03:36:43,320
influenced, guided, and governed by that omnipotent, omnipresent, and beneficent Capitol R ruler.

2408
03:36:43,320 --> 03:36:52,960
So, the guys that helped set up as the most successful nation ever, they knew what they

2409
03:36:52,960 --> 03:36:55,820
were giving credit where credit was due and they were looking back to history.

2410
03:36:56,440 --> 03:37:02,340
So, I don't ask my kids at school to believe in anything or anything, but history, it's written

2411
03:37:02,340 --> 03:37:02,480
down.

2412
03:37:02,660 --> 03:37:04,360
You can't rewrite it.

2413
03:37:04,940 --> 03:37:07,680
You take what the original meanings were.

2414
03:37:08,480 --> 03:37:12,120
So to me, if you were to say, well, I'm going to put the ten commandments in the and the

2415
03:37:12,120 --> 03:37:16,820
Dorthus Wanda, whatever Joan's building, as I ain't going for that, because that's pretty specific.

2416
03:37:17,260 --> 03:37:21,640
This is a historical progression of documentation of the history of who we are.

2417
03:37:22,760 --> 03:37:24,680
So look at that as a religious thing if you want to do that.

2418
03:37:25,080 --> 03:37:29,440
This historical thing is one or the other or both, but it is not a promotion.

2419
03:37:30,740 --> 03:37:36,520
Somebody said, well, Catholic, Lutheran, Christian, Jewish, it's all those.

2420
03:37:37,720 --> 03:37:39,100
So you're not pushing a religion.

2421
03:37:47,720 --> 03:38:00,320
I move to move the meeting till 10 30, okay, is there any objection to moving the end

2422
03:38:00,320 --> 03:38:06,220
in the meeting till 10 30, okay, here we know objection, okay, some of the person hours

2423
03:38:06,220 --> 03:38:06,880
you had to comment.

2424
03:38:07,200 --> 03:38:07,800
Thank you Madam Mayor.

2425
03:38:07,800 --> 03:38:36,560
So my husband's a history major, so he would love this discussion, he would want it to go on on the business major, so I think, so while, you know, we loved that people would read it, I'm also conscious that a lot of folks in my district would not want to see a huge amount of money go, they'd rather go to filling the potholes or, you know, helping with the ambulance service.

2426
03:38:36,560 --> 03:38:42,660
So I just want to there's no budget limit on this and I know you're hopeful to have donations

2427
03:38:42,660 --> 03:38:48,300
So I just like to offer an amendment to cap the the maximum at

2428
03:38:49,280 --> 03:38:52,880
You know shouldn't cost you much get a frame and stuff like that. So

2429
03:38:53,900 --> 03:38:54,500
$750

2430
03:38:55,320 --> 03:38:55,920
and

2431
03:38:57,280 --> 03:38:57,880
just

2432
03:38:58,480 --> 03:39:02,160
So the amendment is to cap with a maximum of

2433
03:39:02,160 --> 03:39:05,220
$750 for these displays

2434
03:39:06,540 --> 03:39:15,060
Okay. So there is an amendment to tap that discussion. Yes, a simpler person.

2435
03:39:15,600 --> 03:39:16,800
On off, go ahead.

2436
03:39:17,440 --> 03:39:20,200
Mr. Mouse, how did you come up with that specific price number?

2437
03:39:24,850 --> 03:39:35,590
Just the cost of a frame and a display shouldn't be that much plus I'm just thinking about people's taxes and where they want them to go.

2438
03:39:35,590 --> 03:39:41,110
So if the administration comes back to us and says we can't do it for 750 or the donations don't come forward

2439
03:39:41,110 --> 03:39:44,050
We can we can come back to it, but I just like having a cap on it

2440
03:39:44,050 --> 03:39:48,110
So folks recognize that we this is something we want to do

2441
03:39:48,110 --> 03:39:51,910
But that we're also conscious that those dollars can't be spent elsewhere

2442
03:39:52,830 --> 03:39:53,230
I

2443
03:39:53,890 --> 03:39:57,250
For the discussion I would even move as much as

2444
03:39:57,830 --> 03:39:59,690
capping out burrow spending zero

2445
03:40:00,000 --> 03:40:07,140
For that, and if we open the page, and people can donate, I'm bitch, we can raise a lot more than 750 people from Matt's to residents for this cause.

2446
03:40:16,360 --> 03:40:37,560
Assemblyperson Hale? Is that a motion? Yes, I believe, I think zero Matt's to borrow money should be spent on this. So, I'll admit, Matt, you are zero. What's coming out of the budget, but find out the right process where people, through GoFundMe or whatever, can donate specifically to the mayor.

2447
03:40:37,560 --> 03:40:44,280
that process and I'm pretty sure there's going to be people enough and I hope as long as the provisions

2448
03:40:44,280 --> 03:40:49,340
are placed that even us assembly can donate to that, I think we're not going to have problem

2449
03:40:49,340 --> 03:40:52,540
finding that and nobody's going to miss out on the pothole, so.

2450
03:40:52,540 --> 03:41:01,840
Okay, so Madam Clerk, if I can clarify to bring it back down to zero, you basically defeats the motion

2451
03:41:01,840 --> 03:41:05,780
so you need to either vote yes or no on this motion that's on the floor.

2452
03:41:05,780 --> 03:41:10,900
So if you don't agree with spending capping it at $750, you'd vote no.

2453
03:41:11,200 --> 03:41:14,780
If you do agree with capping it at $750, you would vote yes.

2454
03:41:15,360 --> 03:41:24,700
Could Stephanie, if she liked withdraw the your amendment, all the bottles are going to get filled and for that.

2455
03:41:27,140 --> 03:41:28,420
I'm willing to withdraw it.

2456
03:41:28,440 --> 03:41:34,480
I just want the staff to come up with an estimate, so we aren't collecting a bunch of money.

2457
03:41:35,320 --> 03:41:40,320
Let's have an estimate and then, sure, we can try to raise the donations for it.

2458
03:41:41,000 --> 03:41:45,960
I don't know, I just look for a little input from the, I'm willing to withdraw that.

2459
03:41:47,260 --> 03:41:50,080
Okay, any objection to withdrawing?

2460
03:41:51,480 --> 03:41:53,880
Okay, I know it's okay, are ready.

2461
03:41:54,500 --> 03:41:54,600
So-

2462
03:41:54,600 --> 03:41:55,460
I make a motion.

2463
03:41:56,060 --> 03:41:56,320
Okay.

2464
03:41:56,320 --> 03:42:03,840
I'm meant to make that legislation to be zero to the matter, but

2465
03:42:03,840 --> 03:42:12,460
instruct a manager or the staff to put in place where people, the residents could donate to that.

2466
03:42:12,980 --> 03:42:21,660
And we use zero funds from that, and then if there is a left over we can donate to the potholes or whatever.

2467
03:42:21,840 --> 03:42:23,960
But something useful and meaningful.

2468
03:42:23,960 --> 03:42:31,640
And I believe that would be a good gesture for us, how we do this process.

2469
03:42:31,960 --> 03:42:37,420
And nobody would be able to blame even if a dollar of Matt Suburrao money was spent to display this all.

2470
03:42:38,640 --> 03:42:40,820
Can I ask the attorney a question?

2471
03:42:42,280 --> 03:42:51,420
Since currently and the clerk currently in the resolution, it doesn't talk about expenditure at all, right?

2472
03:42:53,000 --> 03:43:01,780
So would we need to have more than just a motion or is it already understood the way it is that it's zero?

2473
03:43:02,740 --> 03:43:06,200
I believe what Assemblymember Fawn have made was a motion to amend.

2474
03:43:07,000 --> 03:43:17,320
You could take it as adding another, therefore be it further resolved that the burrow manager is directed to spend zero public dollars.

2475
03:43:17,320 --> 03:43:21,700
but rather to solicit donations for the project.

2476
03:43:24,320 --> 03:43:27,120
Okay, so the portion agreement with the attorney.

2477
03:43:27,200 --> 03:43:30,200
I have rephrased the motion, but I believe that is the,

2478
03:43:30,300 --> 03:43:31,220
as some of your members intend.

2479
03:43:31,680 --> 03:43:35,340
Okay, does that indicate what I, and then I believe.

2480
03:43:35,700 --> 03:43:39,760
Anybody have a question about the amendment then?

2481
03:43:40,480 --> 03:43:41,020
Oh, I'm sorry.

2482
03:43:41,260 --> 03:43:43,480
And to be clear, just in case anybody asks me later,

2483
03:43:43,720 --> 03:43:46,280
the way I entered, the way I would interpret that amendment

2484
03:43:46,280 --> 03:43:49,540
would be of course there's going to be some staff time used because the

2485
03:43:49,540 --> 03:43:52,320
manager's going to put some work into it, maybe a small one and staff and stuff

2486
03:43:52,320 --> 03:43:58,320
like that but no expenditure of money in terms of buying physical products for

2487
03:43:58,320 --> 03:43:58,700
this.

2488
03:44:00,940 --> 03:44:12,220
Is there any objection to the amendment then? Okay. Seeing no objection then back to

2489
03:44:12,220 --> 03:44:19,020
to the main motion to adopt resolution 24-105 as amended,

2490
03:44:21,480 --> 03:44:22,820
okay? Any objection?

2491
03:44:28,700 --> 03:44:32,480
My turn. Okay, you have another amendment?

2492
03:44:32,720 --> 03:44:34,800
I do have another amendment. Okay, okay.

2493
03:44:35,320 --> 03:44:43,460
I move to amend the resolution serial number 24-105 to add an additional resolution clause

2494
03:44:43,460 --> 03:44:45,760
as read as follows.

2495
03:44:46,200 --> 03:44:53,280
Be it further resolved, the borough manager is directed to evaluate placing the same display

2496
03:44:53,580 --> 03:44:59,340
at all borough libraries and report to the assembly the results of the evaluation.

2497
03:45:00,370 --> 03:45:03,670
Okay. Discussion on the amendment.

2498
03:45:06,020 --> 03:45:07,760
Any objection to that amendment?

2499
03:45:09,980 --> 03:45:25,480
Should I do not hear anything? So then now we have two amendments to the resolution. Further discussion on the resolution is amended. Any objection to passing the resolution is amended.

2500
03:45:28,990 --> 03:45:35,730
Don't see any objection. So legislation then is passed. Resolution 24106.

2501
03:45:35,730 --> 03:45:40,030
a resolution recognizing the partnership and contributions of the adult and teen challenge

2502
03:45:40,030 --> 03:45:44,090
Pacific Northwest to the efforts of community cleanup.

2503
03:45:44,610 --> 03:45:47,470
That was pulled by Assemblymember Phanna.

2504
03:45:47,850 --> 03:45:48,030
Okay.

2505
03:45:48,530 --> 03:45:49,470
Assemblyperson Phanna.

2506
03:45:51,050 --> 03:45:57,650
I move to adopt resolution 24-106 and I may speak to it.

2507
03:45:58,250 --> 03:46:02,870
All the people had to go back because they were here from ATC earlier.

2508
03:46:02,870 --> 03:46:32,550
Some of them got to speak and I believe there was a lot of good testimony that we got to hear for what we're doing and I think in the future in the next assembly meeting we'll get you see some before after pictures of what they have what the results have been with this partnership and one of the graduates who spoke who is now very productive member of our community spoke today and I just wanted to give credit, work ready to do it and it took a lot of

2509
03:46:32,550 --> 03:46:40,650
This assembly body to approve for us to fund the community cleanup coordinator.

2510
03:46:41,270 --> 03:46:43,170
And it's the money that was very well spent.

2511
03:46:43,570 --> 03:46:51,150
I think right now we'll get and get the report next year, but it's close to a dozen severe properties that were cleaned up.

2512
03:46:51,470 --> 03:46:57,230
There was even from that same partnership, I think wheelchair ramp was built.

2513
03:46:57,230 --> 03:47:04,230
So there's a lot of good things that I actually would encourage more faith-based and non-profit

2514
03:47:05,410 --> 03:47:09,450
people to get involved and reach out to us because this is a good opportunity and it

2515
03:47:09,450 --> 03:47:16,610
shows that we want to work with people and which when I started, seemed like just a wish

2516
03:47:16,610 --> 03:47:21,930
or a dream is now a reality and we're moving forward with this effort and I want to continue

2517
03:47:21,930 --> 03:47:27,470
to not only clean up but help improve and I think it really helps people who are going

2518
03:47:27,470 --> 03:47:32,550
through this recovery process also learn to give that to community and I noticed that

2519
03:47:33,570 --> 03:47:40,810
actually learns them to be, teaches them the work ethic and also the communicating skills

2520
03:47:40,810 --> 03:47:46,790
as they go and meet people and see the needs, it's something that I'm glad that we have

2521
03:47:46,790 --> 03:47:49,930
of going and I hope that everybody

2522
03:47:49,930 --> 03:47:51,150
supports this resolution.

2523
03:47:51,710 --> 03:47:54,490
For their discussion, yes, is somebody pursuing it?

2524
03:47:55,010 --> 03:47:56,110
Yeah, thank you, Madam Mayor.

2525
03:47:56,230 --> 03:47:57,870
I just want to thank Assemblymember Fauna

2526
03:47:57,870 --> 03:47:59,850
for bringing this, this is really good.

2527
03:48:00,710 --> 03:48:02,790
And I also want to thank Mr. Tremaine, unfortunately,

2528
03:48:02,790 --> 03:48:04,850
him and his team have left, but him and his team

2529
03:48:04,850 --> 03:48:06,630
have done some incredible work.

2530
03:48:07,170 --> 03:48:12,750
They cleaned up a property by Goat Creek out on the Old Glen

2531
03:48:12,750 --> 03:48:21,010
highway there. It was the owner simply weren't capable of doing it and they actually went

2532
03:48:21,010 --> 03:48:31,510
above and beyond and solicited private donations in order to build a handicap ramp for those

2533
03:48:31,510 --> 03:48:39,650
folks. In fact, I'd like to big shout out to Mr. Ortiz as well. He talked to a lawyer friend

2534
03:48:39,650 --> 03:48:44,450
of his who apparently had some extra money laying around and he was actually the one who

2535
03:48:44,450 --> 03:48:48,910
was able to secure the donation for those folks to go ahead and build that handicap ramp

2536
03:48:48,910 --> 03:48:50,350
for that couple out there.

2537
03:48:50,970 --> 03:48:55,830
I think that these guys have done incredible work all over the borough, but particularly

2538
03:48:55,830 --> 03:48:56,810
in district one.

2539
03:48:57,110 --> 03:48:58,930
So I just want to say thank you for bringing this.

2540
03:49:00,030 --> 03:49:06,490
For the discussion on Resolution 24-106, is there any objection?

2541
03:49:07,690 --> 03:49:14,190
I want to thank them as well, it's very important that organizations like that are,

2542
03:49:16,240 --> 03:49:19,000
they are

2543
03:49:19,000 --> 03:49:22,320
blessing, you know, they're helping people that really need help.

2544
03:49:23,080 --> 03:49:29,440
And when you do good things, that they can be proud of, I think that goes a long way.

2545
03:49:29,780 --> 03:49:33,880
Because addiction, a lot of addiction is due to shame.

2546
03:49:33,880 --> 03:49:40,040
If you're shamed and stuff like that, you cannot get out of addiction and when you start doing good things

2547
03:49:40,740 --> 03:49:42,800
think good things are gonna happen and

2548
03:49:44,780 --> 03:49:48,610
I'm glad to be able to partner with them. Thank you

2549
03:49:50,020 --> 03:49:55,300
Any objection to passing the resolution 24-106

2550
03:49:56,800 --> 03:49:59,940
I do not see any objection so the legislation has

2551
03:50:00,000 --> 03:50:28,400
It's been passed. I'm Madam Clerk. I'm Spanish business. Yeah. Resolution 2409, a resolution opposing the release of land authority along the proposal. Last, the long trail as it pertains to the national scenic trail feasibility study. Okay, we have a main motion that is already on the floor is. Yes, Assemblyperson Gamble. Think Madam Mayor. I move to amend resolution number two, four to ask 099.

2552
03:50:28,400 --> 03:50:31,720
9, district 2 resolution clauses and replace them with.

2553
03:50:32,280 --> 03:50:44,700
Now, therefore, be it resolved that the assembly is opposed to relinquishing authority over a burrow owned and or operated trails in lands and opposed to overreaching restrictions on the Alaska Long Trail within the boundaries of the burrow.

2554
03:50:45,260 --> 03:50:51,600
Be it further resolved that the assembly specifically opposes the designation of the Alaska, the spell wrong, by the way.

2555
03:50:51,600 --> 03:50:59,920
The designation of the Alaska Long Trail as a national scenic trail on Burrow-owned land because of the use restrictions and loss of local control over the trail.

2556
03:51:00,480 --> 03:51:08,500
And be it further resolved that the Assembly reaffirms its commitment to the Alaska Long Trail for the reasons to express the resolution serial number 21-045 and I'd like to speak to it.

2557
03:51:09,600 --> 03:51:11,380
Yes, go ahead and speak to it, sir.

2558
03:51:11,380 --> 03:51:21,060
Thank you. First of all, I wish Michelle Stevens was here and Lisa Agnew with the Anchorage

2559
03:51:21,060 --> 03:51:28,620
No Machine Club for all of the work and due diligence that they did to educate us

2560
03:51:28,620 --> 03:51:36,240
about what the National Scenic Trail designation actually can do to harm our ability to manage

2561
03:51:36,240 --> 03:51:42,860
our own trails within the burrow. I am very supportive of the Alaska Long Trail. It's

2562
03:51:42,860 --> 03:51:49,480
concept. In fact, I support all trails, non-motorized, motorized, but especially multi-use trails.

2563
03:51:51,400 --> 03:51:56,860
And after I introduced the last resolution in discussion with the burrow attorney, I guess

2564
03:51:56,860 --> 03:52:02,280
I kind of shot myself in the foot and I narrowed the scope of what I was trying to accomplish.

2565
03:52:02,280 --> 03:52:09,600
And so this actually goes back in broadens what I was trying to do by not just

2566
03:52:10,340 --> 03:52:18,440
designating the National Scenic Trail by keeping that from happening but any by

2567
03:52:19,360 --> 03:52:26,180
we don't want to relinquish any authority over borough owned or operated trails or lands by anybody.

2568
03:52:26,380 --> 03:52:30,680
We want to manage our own trails and so that's what this resolution basically goes

2569
03:52:30,680 --> 03:52:37,380
back and does is it just takes out that narrow designation and it broadens it so that we retain

2570
03:52:37,380 --> 03:52:47,740
control over our trails and lands that the borough owns. And so I'm hoping that the rest of the

2571
03:52:47,740 --> 03:52:56,880
assembly will support this amendment that I brought forward tonight. And so that's the intent of

2572
03:52:56,880 --> 03:53:02,540
this? Okay, for their discussion, not named, yes, some way person hours go. Just a general

2573
03:53:02,540 --> 03:53:09,600
comment that I don't oppose the amendment or this, but I understand the concerns that

2574
03:53:09,600 --> 03:53:15,660
go with this trail, but I also see the great opportunity for the Valley to have a trail

2575
03:53:15,660 --> 03:53:20,280
that passes through it that's like the Appalachian Trail, like I bring a lot of business, bring people

2576
03:53:20,280 --> 03:53:48,640
will to the valley and so I hope will, with that opportunity, the folks who have the concerns will reach out to the folks who have started this effort and try to find ways to make that work so that we can, we don't end up with no trail that we end up with the motorized, the normalized, the multi-use that the opportunity is not lost because I think there's a fair amount of dollars that could flow our way if we can make this work.

2577
03:53:48,640 --> 03:53:51,360
So just hope we're not at loggerheads.

2578
03:53:51,360 --> 03:53:53,360
Let's try to find a way to make this work.

2579
03:53:53,640 --> 03:53:57,140
And thanks for the focus on this bill.

2580
03:53:58,400 --> 03:54:00,100
Assemblyperson Hale and then Mickey?

2581
03:54:00,300 --> 03:54:01,840
Yeah, I just wanted to say this is really,

2582
03:54:01,860 --> 03:54:05,380
this is a really well crafted amendment and thank you Bill.

2583
03:54:06,760 --> 03:54:07,480
Assemblyperson Mickey?

2584
03:54:08,080 --> 03:54:10,460
And I'm like most of folks on this assembly,

2585
03:54:10,720 --> 03:54:12,500
give me a trail, I'll love it, I'll follow it.

2586
03:54:12,600 --> 03:54:13,460
I think we need them.

2587
03:54:14,180 --> 03:54:16,400
But during the pipeline, there was a bumper sticker

2588
03:54:16,400 --> 03:54:18,240
that was pretty popular and says we don't give it damn

2589
03:54:18,240 --> 03:54:22,740
how they do it outside. And so why can't we be different? You know that we did, remember that?

2590
03:54:23,260 --> 03:54:27,620
Why can't we be different? Would your amendment is there some mechanism for negotiating with

2591
03:54:27,620 --> 03:54:30,880
these folks and say we really like your idea, but we're going to want a little more control?

2592
03:54:31,280 --> 03:54:34,340
Is that, are we just saying it, or how do we do it?

2593
03:54:37,030 --> 03:54:38,170
Nick, do you want to speak to it?

2594
03:54:38,930 --> 03:54:43,990
If you want me to, designation of a national senior trail is covered by the federal government.

2595
03:54:44,290 --> 03:54:47,630
I mean, there's regulations in place. It will take acts of Congress to change them.

2596
03:54:50,830 --> 03:54:59,030
I mean, I care how they do it on the outside, but I don't, I wouldn't know my breath to Congress actually changing the rules for all national scenic trails.

2597
03:55:00,000 --> 03:55:26,400
Information sheets that are out there specifically say that motorized use is virtually prohibited, that it's allowed in some extreme circumstances for emergency response and fire response and things like that. So as Assemblymember Gamble said, this amendment A supports the trail, B says we don't want to relinquish authority and C specifically opposes that national designation because of the loss of control.

2598
03:55:26,400 --> 03:55:31,440
So, for the discussion, I'm sorry, will you finish?

2599
03:55:33,860 --> 03:55:39,500
Yeah, and just real quick, I want to re-emphasize the part where we're at the whim of whatever

2600
03:55:39,500 --> 03:55:48,260
administration in Washington DC is in power at the time, and a lot of our bureaucrats in

2601
03:55:48,260 --> 03:55:50,380
Washington DC don't always follow their own rules.

2602
03:55:50,380 --> 03:55:54,040
They just make them up as they go along, and I don't want to be at their mercy.

2603
03:55:54,580 --> 03:55:54,880
Thank you.

2604
03:55:57,700 --> 03:56:02,160
So Bill, are you just, what are you wanting to accomplish by this?

2605
03:56:02,220 --> 03:56:06,080
You like the trail idea, what's the end result of this your amendment?

2606
03:56:06,580 --> 03:56:14,440
The end result is that we maintain sovereignty and control over all of our own borough owned trails in lands.

2607
03:56:14,760 --> 03:56:15,800
Just that easy in that plan.

2608
03:56:15,840 --> 03:56:22,800
Yeah, and if we designate the long trail as a national scenic trail, which I also learned is different than a historic trail.

2609
03:56:22,800 --> 03:56:26,480
The store patrol doesn't have nearly the restrictions that a scenic designation has on it.

2610
03:56:27,260 --> 03:56:40,080
So once we designate it as a scenic trail, that's one of the Feds command, and they can put a quarter mile on each side of the trail, they can basically say you can't cross it, you can't put anything on it unless they tell you you can.

2611
03:56:40,720 --> 03:56:47,880
We heard all about the permitting process that could happen, it could tie up our trails in ways that we would never ever want to happen.

2612
03:56:52,050 --> 03:57:02,810
I think the best part of this resolution or this amendment is the final be it further

2613
03:57:02,810 --> 03:57:07,530
resolved that the assembly reaffirms its commitment to the Alaska long trail for the reasons

2614
03:57:07,530 --> 03:57:10,730
expressed in resolution serial number 21-4-5.

2615
03:57:11,190 --> 03:57:15,030
We want that trail, but we don't want the feds to control it.

2616
03:57:16,920 --> 03:57:22,420
For the discussion on the amendment, is there any objection to the amendment?

2617
03:57:24,460 --> 03:57:24,880
Seeing none.

2618
03:57:25,820 --> 03:57:32,480
Now we're back to the main motion, where we already have the main motion on the floor, but

2619
03:57:32,480 --> 03:57:33,600
now it is amended.

2620
03:57:34,340 --> 03:57:42,320
So is there any objection to passing the RS-24-099 as amended, any objection?

2621
03:57:43,220 --> 03:57:51,960
There is no objection then it is passed and so there are no vetoes and now we are down

2622
03:57:51,960 --> 03:57:53,340
to new business.

2623
03:57:53,480 --> 03:57:53,840
Madam Clerk.

2624
03:57:54,380 --> 03:58:02,540
Introduction for public hearing on October 15 is Resolution 24097 Resolution 24098, Ordnance

2625
03:58:02,540 --> 03:58:10,700
24097 of the Company Resolution 24102, Ordnance 24098 with the Company Resolution 24103.

2626
03:58:11,840 --> 03:58:16,600
and ordinance 24-100 with the company resolution 24-104.

2627
03:58:17,360 --> 03:58:18,520
Okay, and deputy mayor.

2628
03:58:19,960 --> 03:58:28,800
I move to introduce the legislation as read into the record by the clerk and set the public hearings for October 15th, 2024.

2629
03:58:30,080 --> 03:58:31,320
Is there a discussion?

2630
03:58:32,460 --> 03:58:33,400
Is there any objection?

2631
03:58:34,980 --> 03:58:37,880
Okay, hearing none, then the legislation is introduced.

2632
03:58:38,540 --> 03:58:39,040
Deputy mayor.

2633
03:58:39,040 --> 03:58:43,320
I move to confirm the mayor's recommendation as follows.

2634
03:58:43,940 --> 03:58:56,080
Enhance 9-1-1 Advisory Board, Jared Eason, Library Board, Resonation of Adam Jenkins and Mark

2635
03:58:56,080 --> 03:58:59,560
Sofon to be on the Library Board.

2636
03:59:00,480 --> 03:59:03,880
Local Emergency Planning Committee, Jared Eason.

2637
03:59:06,850 --> 03:59:17,050
discussion on the vacancy report? Any objection? Okay, here is no objection and the vacancy

2638
03:59:17,050 --> 03:59:26,430
report is approved. There is no new business and let's see, Madam Clerk, please read the

2639
03:59:26,430 --> 03:59:28,270
referral into the record.

2640
03:59:28,690 --> 03:59:34,470
Ordinance 24101 and ordinance emitting MSB 17.73 to change the notification requirements

2641
03:59:34,470 --> 03:59:36,710
and process for multi-family developments.

2642
03:59:37,510 --> 03:59:38,310
Assemblyperson Hale?

2643
03:59:39,870 --> 03:59:42,210
I move to refer ordinance 24-101

2644
03:59:42,210 --> 03:59:43,890
to the planning commission for 90 days.

2645
03:59:44,290 --> 03:59:44,730
Okay.

2646
03:59:45,310 --> 03:59:47,610
Did you want a time on that?

2647
03:59:47,890 --> 03:59:50,490
You know, sometimes we put like 90 days on it

2648
03:59:50,490 --> 03:59:52,050
or 60 days or something.

2649
03:59:52,250 --> 03:59:52,370
Yep.

2650
03:59:52,370 --> 03:59:54,030
Do you want to have something on there?

2651
03:59:54,170 --> 03:59:55,290
It says 90 days, yes.

2652
03:59:55,730 --> 03:59:55,950
Okay.

2653
03:59:56,530 --> 03:59:56,790
All right.

2654
03:59:56,790 --> 03:59:59,590
Do we need a amendment to that?

2655
04:00:00,660 --> 04:00:29,180
Okay. All right. Great. And he said 90 days. Okay. Yeah. He said 90 days. Yeah. Okay. Any discussion on the referral? Any objection? Yes, assembly. It's not objection. I didn't look at it. Mr. Hill, would you be able to kind of summarize basically what this will do so that I know? Absolutely. It would change the notification.

2656
04:00:29,180 --> 04:00:36,560
and public hearing requirements for the administrative permit to send out the notifications,

2657
04:00:36,860 --> 04:00:45,720
the same radius as is done for a, like a conditional use permit.

2658
04:00:46,360 --> 04:00:50,960
So they had to send out notifications to all the property owners within certain radius.

2659
04:00:50,960 --> 04:01:04,300
And then the, there would be a public hearing held in front of the planning director prior to the issuance of the multi-family use permit.

2660
04:01:05,680 --> 04:01:06,900
For a good discussion.

2661
04:01:07,600 --> 04:01:07,780
Yeah.

2662
04:01:09,320 --> 04:01:17,640
What is the process now and where is the multi-family start if I actually want to say because I just-

2663
04:01:19,580 --> 04:01:29,780
We're just referring this to the planning commission and then it will come back to us for discussion before we do adoption.

2664
04:01:30,260 --> 04:01:39,780
Yeah. Okay. So any objection to the referral? Okay. All right, hearing none, then it has been referred.

2665
04:01:39,780 --> 04:01:47,120
There are no reconsiderations, and we are now to parting comments, Mr. Attorney, parting comments?

2666
04:01:50,020 --> 04:01:59,080
No, I'll see you all Thursday, and thanks to some of you remember McKee for the shout out to ASAP, any time you reference labels is good.

2667
04:02:01,680 --> 04:02:03,420
Assemblyperson McKee, parting comments?

2668
04:02:03,960 --> 04:02:20,940
Yeah, this is a very contentious, exciting, and productive meeting, one of the best, and I think it kind of gets everybody thinking about very fundamental basics of our country and how we, how far we have straight and what we need to be looking at, so I'm glad we went where we went.

2669
04:02:21,600 --> 04:02:24,540
Okay, Deputy Mayor, pardon comments?

2670
04:02:26,560 --> 04:02:34,240
I want to thank everybody for coming out tonight, and I've had a lot of people say, well,

2671
04:02:34,660 --> 04:02:40,420
you can't have the ten commandments and display on public property and all this.

2672
04:02:41,000 --> 04:02:47,000
They're on the Supreme Court lawn, there's a picture of Moses in the Supreme Court.

2673
04:02:47,000 --> 04:02:53,320
But just to ask Google, should the Ten Commandments be displayed in public spaces?

2674
04:02:56,220 --> 04:03:00,760
And they can take and it's the First Amendment, right?

2675
04:03:01,380 --> 04:03:09,900
There's no prohibition of displaying the use of the Ten Commandments as you would any other historical document.

2676
04:03:09,900 --> 04:03:17,500
And it's when you make it by itself where it's a religious thing, then that's when you cross the line.

2677
04:03:17,980 --> 04:03:22,680
But when it comes to this historical stuff, that's our First Amendment right.

2678
04:03:24,280 --> 04:03:29,980
I just wanted to say thank you for everybody, and that really made me happy today.

2679
04:03:30,680 --> 04:03:34,240
Thank you Stephanie, thank you Tim, everyone.

2680
04:03:35,760 --> 04:03:38,980
Thank you, Lord. Thank you for all the love and mercy.

2681
04:03:39,980 --> 04:03:41,220
Thank you for all your blessings.

2682
04:03:41,820 --> 04:03:44,920
Please bless our veterans, our military, our first responders.

2683
04:03:45,640 --> 04:03:48,120
Please bring love and peace into our valley.

2684
04:03:49,460 --> 04:03:52,660
Love and understanding with our residents and bring us all together.

2685
04:03:53,200 --> 04:03:54,560
Jesus name, amen.

2686
04:03:55,940 --> 04:03:57,580
Assemblyperson Hale, parting comments?

2687
04:03:58,020 --> 04:03:58,900
Yeah, thank you Madam Mayor.

2688
04:03:59,260 --> 04:04:03,700
I'd like to move to direct the manager to have staff help the South

2689
04:04:03,700 --> 04:04:08,280
Connect River Community Council develop a draft special use district plan and

2690
04:04:09,140 --> 04:04:14,080
pursuant with the with the resolution that we all adopted in that

2691
04:04:16,390 --> 04:04:19,750
Assemblyperson nowers parting comments. There's a motion on the

2692
04:04:21,790 --> 04:04:26,890
That's a motion not just okay all right discussion on the motion

2693
04:04:27,650 --> 04:04:34,170
Everybody here and understand it you understand it. Well, okay madam clerk will you read it again?

2694
04:04:35,170 --> 04:04:41,630
again. Okay. Yeah, directing. The motion is directing the manager to have staff help.

2695
04:04:42,030 --> 04:04:49,630
South Connect River Community Council develop a draft special use district plan in concurrence

2696
04:04:49,630 --> 04:04:55,870
with the resolution that we passed in May. I don't have the serial number handy, sorry.

2697
04:04:58,440 --> 04:04:59,740
Okay, did you?

2698
04:05:00,850 --> 04:05:16,350
Go ahead. I don't know what resolution we voted down the resolution, so I don't think we did not. Pass if we're talking about resolution number 24 is 078. So.

2699
04:05:19,280 --> 04:05:32,600
To be clear, what you voted down tonight was a process. The assembly has already directed the staff and 24.052 to do a community a spud for the committee council. And what.

2700
04:05:32,600 --> 04:05:36,040
But his motion is to direct the manager to keep doing that.

2701
04:05:36,200 --> 04:05:41,220
What you voted down tonight was the process that might apply to all spuds anywhere in

2702
04:05:41,220 --> 04:05:41,640
the borough.

2703
04:05:42,200 --> 04:05:45,540
But back in May, you passed 24-05-2, and I believe that's assembly.

2704
04:05:45,880 --> 04:05:54,220
When he said he didn't have the resolution, 24-05-2 already says, assist the sub-community

2705
04:05:54,220 --> 04:05:54,560
council.

2706
04:05:54,920 --> 04:06:01,760
So, Assemblyperson Hale, do you feel your motion is still needed then since it's already

2707
04:06:01,760 --> 04:06:03,520
resolution has already passed.

2708
04:06:03,660 --> 04:06:09,800
Absolutely, the planning director has said he would like to get the new process in place

2709
04:06:09,800 --> 04:06:12,180
before he moves forward with the Spud.

2710
04:06:12,720 --> 04:06:19,700
We do not have a new process, so we should continue to honor our resolution to 4-0-5-2

2711
04:06:19,700 --> 04:06:24,220
and continue helping those folks produce a draft plan.

2712
04:06:27,640 --> 04:06:34,240
I was really liking the idea of LIDs, how come we don't stick that in there, or is that

2713
04:06:34,240 --> 04:06:37,120
just part of what we recommend by doing your amendment?

2714
04:06:40,020 --> 04:06:43,980
It's certainly something that could come up during the draft planning, yeah.

2715
04:06:44,580 --> 04:06:44,740
Okay.

2716
04:06:48,240 --> 04:06:49,900
Yes, Assemblyperson Gamble, go ahead.

2717
04:06:50,800 --> 04:06:53,440
I'll address it under my comments, thank you.

2718
04:06:54,320 --> 04:06:55,840
Assemblyperson who's gone off, go ahead.

2719
04:06:55,840 --> 04:07:05,860
I would ask to pause that process for that specific spot and get, I'm going to work on the

2720
04:07:05,860 --> 04:07:13,280
literature to have a mechanism in place that rechallets to more people.

2721
04:07:14,400 --> 04:07:21,720
So then when there's enough support there from all affected people, if that is takes place

2722
04:07:21,720 --> 04:07:25,600
because I believe that's more democratic and a process moving forward.

2723
04:07:25,740 --> 04:07:27,820
And I would hope that you can support me now.

2724
04:07:29,360 --> 04:07:30,800
Assemblyperson, yeah, I'm going to go.

2725
04:07:30,800 --> 04:07:32,300
Okay, so now I'm going to have to speak to it.

2726
04:07:32,380 --> 04:07:36,040
So I want to go back to what Assemblymember Hale was talking about earlier.

2727
04:07:36,800 --> 04:07:41,720
If you're asking people to vote on something without there being something for them to vote on,

2728
04:07:43,240 --> 04:07:45,440
it may just be confusing for them.

2729
04:07:45,440 --> 04:07:51,560
if you ask them if they're for South Kinnick River developing a

2730
04:07:51,560 --> 04:07:56,920
Spud, but they don't actually know what the Spud is, I think

2731
04:07:56,920 --> 04:08:01,960
that may not be the best way to handle that. And also, as I

2732
04:08:01,960 --> 04:08:06,900
was thinking about it, after we voted down the resolution, if we

2733
04:08:06,900 --> 04:08:10,020
would have done that LID process with the big lake comp plan or

2734
04:08:10,020 --> 04:08:12,880
the lake management plan with all the property owners out there

2735
04:08:12,880 --> 04:08:19,040
that didn't actually have a vote, we probably wouldn't have a big lake hunt plan and like management plan right now.

2736
04:08:19,280 --> 04:08:27,480
So I'm kind of hesitant to do that process without there being a

2737
04:08:28,240 --> 04:08:36,560
spud framework in place for people to look at to see exactly what they're voting on, if that makes sense, thank you.

2738
04:08:49,000 --> 04:08:49,480
Yeah,

2739
04:08:53,320 --> 04:08:59,180
thank you Madam Mayor. So my intention is to once they have a draft plan is to come

2740
04:08:59,180 --> 04:09:06,960
back to the assembly and ask us to direct the manager to send it out to the people of

2741
04:09:06,960 --> 04:09:16,180
cell connect river for about much like a LID or even if we don't have that process in place

2742
04:09:16,180 --> 04:09:21,080
by that time that would be my intention because I do think that that's a good idea, but

2743
04:09:21,080 --> 04:09:25,440
you have to have the document before you can ask people to weigh in on it.

2744
04:09:25,640 --> 04:09:31,760
So you'd be looking at an LID as a framework for the spud thing and back of it to say, okay,

2745
04:09:34,950 --> 04:09:37,230
further discussion and some of the personal comments.

2746
04:09:37,230 --> 04:09:48,410
In fact, as I remember, McKee, you brought that up earlier that you would have liked to have seen that as part of a Lake Management Plan process for people to vote on it and I think going forward that that's probably a great idea for all of our

2747
04:09:48,410 --> 04:09:51,950
complaints and like management plans is to go back and ask the people what they think about it

2748
04:09:54,320 --> 04:09:55,920
for the discussion

2749
04:10:00,000 --> 04:10:03,600
Is there any objection? There is objection. Okay.

2750
04:10:11,150 --> 04:10:15,570
Pass with assembly member Fawnoff and a post. Okay.

2751
04:10:17,450 --> 04:10:20,650
Assemblyperson Nowers, I think we weren't parting comments, were we?

2752
04:10:23,550 --> 04:10:34,110
Yeah, that just made me think it's one of those things where you're like, hey, are you supported at parks and puppies and everybody goes, yeah, and then you go, but it'll cost you $1 million.

2753
04:10:34,110 --> 04:10:37,430
And they're like, I don't like the birds and puppies so much.

2754
04:10:37,710 --> 04:10:41,830
So, you know, it all depends what you're, the more specific you are, the more people

2755
04:10:41,830 --> 04:10:42,510
have opinion on it.

2756
04:10:43,390 --> 04:10:47,250
I just want to thank all the people who came out, it's great to see so much input from

2757
04:10:47,250 --> 04:10:48,130
the community.

2758
04:10:48,990 --> 04:10:52,770
And I wanted to mention something we didn't talk about, but Assembly Member Gamble brought

2759
04:10:52,770 --> 04:10:57,830
forward, which I think is incredibly important, which is helping bring back our fish runs.

2760
04:10:59,110 --> 04:11:03,350
That little Sue fish run is where I caught my first salmon.

2761
04:11:03,790 --> 04:11:05,430
A lot of people have had experiences there.

2762
04:11:05,930 --> 04:11:08,430
Guides used to use it and that's just one of our streams.

2763
04:11:08,790 --> 04:11:10,950
And it is so bad.

2764
04:11:11,150 --> 04:11:16,190
I mean, I don't know if numbers can capture it as much as like going out there and seeing how quiet it is.

2765
04:11:16,290 --> 04:11:21,490
And that we used to worry about regulating traffic on that river.

2766
04:11:21,710 --> 04:11:25,870
But the return this year, the count is 964.

2767
04:11:25,870 --> 04:11:27,330
We used to have 30,000.

2768
04:11:27,750 --> 04:11:31,270
We had 30,000 fish come through there.

2769
04:11:31,590 --> 04:11:32,890
A lot of years, 15,000.

2770
04:11:33,010 --> 04:11:35,010
Some years, we go down to three, but it was one year.

2771
04:11:35,250 --> 04:11:37,070
We've been going down, down, down.

2772
04:11:37,770 --> 04:11:41,330
So I just wanted to thank Assemblymember Gamble

2773
04:11:41,330 --> 04:11:43,450
for bringing that and just point out,

2774
04:11:43,630 --> 04:11:45,470
that's a big business for the borough.

2775
04:11:45,690 --> 04:11:47,890
It's a big reason people live out here is to fish.

2776
04:11:48,150 --> 04:11:51,870
And it's really important that we get with the fisheries board

2777
04:11:51,870 --> 04:11:53,610
to do all we can to bring back that run.

2778
04:11:53,610 --> 04:11:59,750
And I do, for some reason, in the resolution Alaska's misspelled, and it just, I can't fix that.

2779
04:11:59,950 --> 04:12:07,510
Yeah, if we could fix that, it's Alaksa, I can't even pronounce it, but, and yeah, that's it.

2780
04:12:07,750 --> 04:12:08,070
Thank you.

2781
04:12:10,390 --> 04:12:11,670
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

2782
04:12:11,850 --> 04:12:14,850
So we are moving forward, we will move forward with the Kinnick River Spud.

2783
04:12:15,490 --> 04:12:20,070
The assembly has time, if somebody wants to bring forward a process for

2784
04:12:20,070 --> 04:12:27,210
We're petitioning within an adoption of the plan, but we still got a lot of work before we even get close to that.

2785
04:12:27,610 --> 04:12:33,950
So that's kind of where I think this thing landed, at least from my perspective, because we've got to figure out what to do next.

2786
04:12:34,930 --> 04:12:40,150
We were supposed to do a port update tonight, but we had a shift come in, so it's kind of a good problem to have.

2787
04:12:40,150 --> 04:12:44,470
So if you are interested in seeing a deep draft vessel in doc,

2788
04:12:44,750 --> 04:12:48,170
conveying material or commodity and you're interested in going,

2789
04:12:48,930 --> 04:12:54,810
please let Dave Griffin or me know, because it is foreign flag so there are security requirements.

2790
04:12:55,170 --> 04:12:56,650
You can't just drive down to the port.

2791
04:12:57,810 --> 04:12:59,650
And so what's that salt?

2792
04:13:00,070 --> 04:13:06,070
So it's part of this state maintenance contract, so like last year, much more delayed, but that's okay, we'll take it.

2793
04:13:06,070 --> 04:13:09,330
You know, it's good revenue for us, but that came in today.

2794
04:13:09,670 --> 04:13:14,830
They were already conveying material off of it within probably two or three hours of it docking.

2795
04:13:14,950 --> 04:13:16,590
So they are moving quick.

2796
04:13:17,010 --> 04:13:20,250
So if it is something you want to put your feet on the ground and see physically,

2797
04:13:20,770 --> 04:13:21,750
there's value in that.

2798
04:13:21,850 --> 04:13:24,250
So we would love to facilitate that visit if you're interested.

2799
04:13:24,530 --> 04:13:25,110
That's all Madam Mayor.

2800
04:13:25,970 --> 04:13:26,710
Madam Clerk, nothing.

2801
04:13:28,490 --> 04:13:33,510
Assemblyperson Gamble, and we have six minutes until we have to extend the meeting.

2802
04:13:33,510 --> 04:13:56,350
Yeah, I just wanted to say when my family moved up here in 1967, my dad would take me, my sister fishing, and there were so many fish and little willow and sheep creek, I mean, it was almost like you could walk across and you could just go out there and it was legal to snag, you know, and just to go out there now and just see an occasional fish swim by, it's just sadding to me.

2803
04:13:56,350 --> 04:14:01,490
and Madam Mayor, thank you for appointing me to the Alaska or the Massive

2804
04:14:01,490 --> 04:14:06,890
Royal Fish and Wildlife Commission. I have learned so much my time on that

2805
04:14:06,890 --> 04:14:13,910
commission and I never knew how bad things were until the last 10 months that

2806
04:14:13,910 --> 04:14:17,310
I've been on that commission with our fish stocks. So thank you.

2807
04:14:18,290 --> 04:14:20,390
Assembly Person Phanna, party remarks.

2808
04:14:20,390 --> 04:14:27,470
Okay, so we shall adjourn at 10.25.