[This transcript was generated automatically from audio using AI and hasn't been reviewed by a person -- it can contain mistakes, including plausible-sounding sentences that were never actually said. Treat it as a starting point, not a verbatim record.] [0:01] Warm, wet, Friday. [0:05] Recording in progress. [0:08] President Joaquin Torres. [0:10] Present. [0:10] Commissioner Leroy Lindo. [0:12] Commissioner Luana Kim. [0:14] Commissioner Marianne Pikes. [0:16] Item 3, acknowledgment of the Ramatouche Ohlone community. [0:20] The housing authority of the city and county of San Francisco acknowledges that we are on the unceded ancestral homeland of the Ramatouche Ohlone, who are the original inhabitants of the San Francisco peninsula. [0:31] As the indigenous stewards of this land and in accordance with their traditions, [0:37] the Ramatusha Loni have never ceded, lost, nor forgotten their responsibilities as the caretakers of this place, [0:44] as well as for all peoples who reside in their traditional territory. [0:48] As guests, we recognize that we benefit from living and working on their traditional homeland. [0:54] We wish to pay our respects by acknowledging the ancestors, [0:57] elders and relatives of the Ramatou Sholoni community, and by affirming their sovereign [1:03] rights as First Peoples. [1:06] Thank you. [1:07] Item four is the President's report. [1:10] Nothing to report right now, but I just want to say thank you very much to the Housing [1:13] Authority and the Cooperation with City Departments in ensuring that turkey giveaways are happening [1:17] across the city right now, so that thousands of turkeys can maybe be provided to families [1:22] across San Francisco and wishing everyone a very happy holiday season as we [1:29] begin leaning into it more fully next week. [1:34] Thank you President Torres. Item 5, [1:36] general public comments. Before we start, I'd like to note this portion of the [1:39] agenda is not intended for debate or discussion with the commissioner staff. [1:42] Please simply state your business or the matter you wish the commissioner [1:44] staff to be aware of. It is not appropriate for commissioners to [1:48] engage in a debate or respondent issues not properly set in a publicly [1:52] If you have questions or would like to bring a matter to the commission's attention, please send your communication via e-mail to sfha.com at sfha.org. [2:02] And then I'll start with the speaker cards we got. [2:04] And for public comment, you'll have two minutes. [2:07] We can start with Margaret McNulty. [2:12] Hi, good morning. [2:13] Good morning. [2:13] Good morning. [2:15] I'm Margaret McNulty from the residents council advisors, and I want you to know I have 10 new clients now. [2:21] and I actually have Howard Hill here with me for, he's the vice president as well [2:29] and he's the president of 25 Sanchez. So I just wanted to bring to your [2:35] attention London breed cut the ribbon on 180 in the tenderloin just the other [2:42] day and it's all subsidized housing like 80 units and it's perfect for us to [2:48] Russian and stabilize the resident council advisory. [2:52] So I just want you to know that we're working on it [2:56] and I'm working with Kendra really closely [2:58] with the other problems in the building, [3:00] but it's going well, I'm finding my niche. [3:03] So thank you. [3:04] Thank you. [3:05] Any questions? [3:10] Any other general public comment in the room? [3:22] Yes, let's give any general public comment [3:24] in the room, you can do so now. [3:47] Good morning. [3:48] Good morning, what is it? [3:50] I know all of you know who I am. [3:54] I am Martha Hollins from the Plaza East Tenants Association, [4:00] and with me I have one of my constituents, Annie Lee, [4:05] and we have come to you to thank you first of all [4:12] for our turkey giveaway, and we had a successful one yesterday. [4:17] day and a lot of people came and it was a good job, good job, good job. Thank you all for [4:26] what you do for low-income people. I just wanted to talk to you a little bit about to address [4:42] to you about the way our community is moving forward. [4:50] And we just wanted to give you a few points of what's going on. [4:56] And it has to do with our redevelopment. [5:03] We have been trying to get a meeting with the housing authority on what Plaza East is [5:10] going to be doing as far as our redevelopment goals. We have been here too long now, too [5:17] long. And we want to move our community forward. This is stressing our residents out. They [5:27] don't know what's happening or what's going on because there's no one to give us information [5:34] on what we need to do about our community and our residents. [5:38] Ms. Hollins? [5:40] Yes. [5:40] If I may ask, we're about to hear a full report on Plaza East. [5:45] And if we could, if you have the time, may we have a more back-and-forth dialogue at [5:51] that point? [5:53] Mm-hmm. [5:53] And that'll happen in probably just a few moments. [5:55] But then there is another point that I wanted to hear from. [6:02] I just want to move through public comment right now and then come back to Plaza [6:05] East in full. [6:06] So it'll happen while bring you ask you to come back up for plaza east. All right. All right. Thank you so much Miss [6:11] Hough. Okay, that is item number seven and seven a I do have someone online for general public comment Dennis Williams [6:21] You'd like to unmute yourself. You'll have two minutes [6:31] Yes [6:33] Thank you. Mr. Dennis Williams. Good morning [6:37] Commissioners good morning everyone in chambers, and I'm glad everyone made it safely with the wet weather out [6:43] I'm a community leader, Board of Supervisors Awarded. [6:47] I'm also a Micro-Awarelessay developer and also the Executive Director of the Fillmore [6:53] CDC. [6:54] I'm just looking for any opportunities for community preservation to partner with housing [7:02] authority in our BIPOC communities on a bevy of projects that's already going [7:07] as also, and or also as a micro redeveloper, part of the SF Hyper Local Buildings Trades [7:17] Collective over 15 qualified men and women citywide minorities, contractors, general [7:26] contractors and developers who are unfortunately out of work and not working on any of these [7:31] projects, maybe one or two. Is there any opportunities for local Black [7:36] real estate developers on any of Housing Authority redevelopment projects in our [7:40] BIPOC communities? Specifically, any joint venture opportunities would say at [7:45] Mercy Housing or Tabernacle, CDC. We need to put our community to work. We need [7:51] to put our youth and our other small businesses to work. We live in the [7:59] communities and who live in San Francisco. Our kids go to school here, we pay taxes here [8:05] and we need jobs and we've been saying this for too long without seeing any amendments [8:11] to anything, any legislation pertaining to Section 3 which gives us priority and preference. [8:18] What is the reason why there's no compliance or any accountability being shown on a part [8:25] of these developers that are being allowed to come into our communities siphoning not [8:30] only jobs but generational wealth opportunities. So just looking for opportunities of myself [8:37] as well as for hyper-local building trades collected. Thank you. [8:47] Any additional general public comment in person or online? [8:57] Then we can close general public [8:58] comment. Go to item number six for the tenant representative report. Anyone from city [9:02] wide council, senior disabled or the public housing tenant association like to give a [9:05] report out to the board? [9:17] Welcome Madam President. Thank you Mr. President, [9:24] commissioners. I don't have much to report. We were at the Hunters Point [9:28] shipyard last night and they gave many updates but we we're going to see that [9:34] all the public housing representatives receive the information we got last [9:41] night on Park and Rec and the gardening projects they have for young adults and high school [9:49] age children. [9:52] The China Basin is open, not China, what is it, India? [9:58] Indian Basin is open and we saw it when we passed by last night. [10:02] It really looks nice and they're encouraging people to come out and utilize it. [10:07] But I know we can't utilize it right now, [10:09] but it's a really nice place. [10:12] They're working on it, and they have park rangers there [10:15] around the clock when it's open. [10:18] So we want to encourage people to come to that. [10:21] Kim also went to the, [10:31] so we've been very busy, [10:34] but we're just trying to make sure we got here. [10:36] This is so early. [10:38] I thought this was going to be at 4 o'clock. [10:40] When Bennett said 9 o'clock, I said, oh my god. [10:43] but yeah we're here thank you thank you thank [10:52] you president Armstrong we can [10:54] open for public comment on item number six any public comment don't [11:02] see any we [11:02] can close public comment item number seven is the chief executive officer [11:06] support before we move on to the first item there I know that CEO let us you [11:10] would like to make some remarks and we have some commendations to make today [11:14] Good [11:21] morning everyone and thank you everyone for being in attendance with us this morning [11:27] and thank you to our commissioners as always for your support. [11:30] So for my general communications I would like to congratulate both Ms. Joyce Armstrong and [11:39] Ms. Neola Ganz from the Public Housing Tenant Association for their recognition at the [11:44] the National Alliance of Resident Services in Affordable and Assistant Housing, Annual [11:50] Resident Services and Residence Leaders Conference in September. [11:55] Ms. Armstrong and Ms. Gems, who served as PHTA president and treasurer respectively, [12:02] were inducted into their Hall of Fame. [12:06] And from Samuel Little at NARSA, who is the CEO, he stated that this honor exemplifies [12:14] the honorees' fidelity throughout their performance of public service. [12:20] The honorees' dedication as public housing leaders has been exemplary and is a model [12:26] for other leaders with similar values. [12:28] We have deep respect and admiration for the honorees. [12:32] Please join NARSA in extending congratulations to the honoree as a member in the Hall of Fame. [12:40] And I'd also say please join the Housing Authority and this commission in doing the same. [12:46] And for this recognition, I want to congratulate both Ms. Joyce and Ms. Neola, as well as Ms. Kimberly Hill-Brown for their work at PHTA. [12:58] And I'm excited to share this accomplishment with our commissioners and with everyone here today. [13:04] And the authority looks forward to our continued work and collaboration and in partnership with not just PHTA, [13:11] but all our tenant councils for the betterment of residents and their representation. [13:17] And I'd like to invite them both to come to the podium. [13:27] And I also would like to give you a few moments to speak, and then I would like to invite our entire commission to come and take a picture with you. [13:47] Well, you know we had to bring our awards to show them off. And we got out of there just in time before hurricane somebody. [13:57] Yeah, Helen or Ivory. [14:03] We both can't see. Can you read this, Ben? This is what we, that was the bio, and here's the award. [14:12] Neola, give him yours. [14:14] Yes, so this is for Ms. Armstrong. Was the Youth Programs Director at the Patrial Hill Neighborhood House, also the Mayor, [14:22] summer youth and after-school employment and training programs, [14:25] game prevention program, and the founder of the PHNH Girls Club, [14:28] the Community Pride Cleanup Program, Black History and Summer Youth [14:32] Expression Talent Show, coordinator and president of the board of directors [14:36] during the span of 30 years. She was brought over to the SFHA in 1997 to be [14:41] part of an elite group of public housing residents, training to be [14:44] property managers. She soared to the rank of Act and Property Manager, [14:47] property manager, resident employment specialist, resident services and management [14:52] analyst before retiring from SFHA in 2010. She's the president of the [14:56] Bernal Dwellings resident council and the president of the SFHA public housing [14:59] tenant association. [15:00] She's an activist, advocate, and fierce in her fight for economic justice and equal rights for everyone. [15:06] The Honorable Mayor of Lee appointed her to the Hunter's Point Shipyard Citizen Advisory Committee, [15:11] and she is a member of the Office of Community Investment and Infrastructure's Legacy Foundation Committee. [15:16] In 2017, the SFHA appointed her to the SFHA Housing Corporation Board and the Bernal Dwellings Housing Corporation Board. [15:22] Thank you. [15:36] It's right here. [15:39] Thank [15:44] you, Linda. [16:03] Yes, I would love to read that. Would you hand that to me, Bennett? Yeah. Let's get this [16:08] flowing. Let's get this flowing. It's early yet, but you know. Bennett, will you hand [16:12] me that, please? [16:18] Oh, we've read Neola's. May I see? [16:24] Sorry about that, Ms. Jones. [16:26] Madam President, the words from the Narsau Hall of Fame Certificate of Recognition are [16:32] proudly presented to you at the conference as you narrowly escaped Hurricane Helene. [16:36] At the end of that conference we are so happy that you did, but also we're so happy that [16:42] had you stayed you would have been of great service to all those who were in need, as [16:45] you always have been here in San Francisco. [16:48] This honoree has shown fidelity throughout the performance of public service. [16:51] Many from diverse walks of life have been assisted during challenging times and when faced with [16:56] community flashpoints. [16:58] This honoree's dedication as a public housing leader has been exemplary and is a model for [17:04] other leaders with similar values. [17:06] We have deep respect and admiration for the honoree. [17:10] Please join our saw in extending congratulations to this honoree as a member in the infamous [17:17] Hall of Fame. [17:22] And [17:26] for you, Ms. Neola Gans, this honoree has shown fidelity throughout the performance [17:30] of public service. [17:33] Many from diverse walks of life have been assisted during challenging times, just as [17:36] your colleague has. [17:38] You've been an extraordinary exemplary public servant whose values have always challenged [17:42] those to live up to the highest ideals of their public service, and you are being [17:47] recognized for being a leader in that regard. [17:49] from Narsaw and also from all of us as we are about to present. [17:53] Thank you for your exemplary public service. [18:02] And I know that we here in San Francisco, at the direction of our CEO, Tonya Letizu, [18:08] wanted to be sure that we were doing our part as well to recognize you and maybe one up the award a little bit [18:14] with something that is quite special for the two of you being such special leaders in our community, [18:21] community, making sure, as I said, that we're living up to our highest ideals, that our [18:26] public service is that public service and always keeping community and the residents [18:32] and those who need a helping hand. [18:34] And sometimes just a door to be opened for them so they can lead themselves and their [18:39] communities themselves. [18:40] Thank you for always being those leaders and leading the way and teaching us how [18:45] to best engage with community. [18:46] With that, Tonya Letitiu and commissioners, may we join her in presenting these two awards [18:52] to Neola Gans and Joyce Armstrong. [18:56] Thank you. [18:56] Thank you, [19:08] Ms. Letitiu. [19:08] We just want to remind you again that you really truly make a difference. [19:12] Thank you so very much. [19:13] Thank you so much. [19:14] Oh, this is heavy, too. [19:17] Likewise, Ms. Letitiu. [19:19] Thank you for all the work that you have done in this community, and we honor you [19:24] today. [19:24] Thank you. [19:25] Not just today, but we honor you both every day. [19:27] Thank you. [19:30] Thank you very [19:51] much. Thank you. [19:59] I'm not trying to be cool. I've had some [20:02] eye problems so when I take a picture I like to have my shades on. We were at the shipyard [20:09] last night and the lights were so bright so when I woke up this morning my eye was [20:14] very rich so just so you can know I'm not trying to be all cool. Thank you all. This is such an honor. [20:38] And just because we want to commemorate this in particular I just want to take public comments [20:43] specifically from any members of the public who also want to send their regards and speak their [20:49] own accommodations in respect to the leadership of PHTA and in particular Joyce Armstrong and [20:55] Neola Ganz. [20:59] Good morning, commissioners, chair Joaquin Torres, our esteemed assessor. My name [21:07] is Linda Fadiki Richardson. I am a longtime San Francisco resident, and I have had the privilege [21:16] and the honor to know Joyce Armstrong, Neola Ganz, and Kim Brown. I cannot test to the dedication, [21:25] their commitment. These women work tirelessly around the clock, I mean for [21:32] decades. And as the proclamation mentioned, they are very accessible, they have [21:39] integrity, they really care about the community. And by bestowing this award [21:45] actually is that they are a model for a lot of leaders, especially the young [21:53] people that are going to be following their footsteps, they need to know that in order [21:58] to get to where these women are today, that it takes a lot of commitment and dedication. [22:05] And that's what Joyce, Neola, Kim, that's what they are known for in this city. [22:12] And so I just want to come out here and I know that a lot of people in the community [22:17] that ascribe to what I've just said to know that Joyce all your work all the [22:24] decades are not in vain and we thank you all and continue to wish you good health [22:31] and your contributions to the city to the all the communities citywide well [22:38] noted and are remarkable and thank you all commissioners for bestowing this [22:44] honor on them as well. Thank you. [22:46] Thank you so much. [22:50] Hi Margaret McNulty again. I'd like to say that I would not be where I am today [22:55] without Joyce Armstrong. She was present and a big integral part of me being the first, [23:02] my first term as president at 1760 Bush and throughout my 10 years of education she's been [23:10] a solid, solid example of and a guidance guiding light. So congratulations as well earned [23:16] for you, Joyce. [23:23] I'm so proud of these two women. They're my sisters and we have known each other [23:30] for decades. And we've been working in the community, anything that was on my mind and [23:38] that was troubling me, I can always go to Joyce and Neola and they will give me good [23:44] advice on what I should do. I love them both deeply. And we'll always be friends. And they [23:53] have done a tremendous job in this community, a tremendous job that people just don't know. [23:59] But I know, and I know what they've been into and what they've been doing and how they've [24:06] been doing it. And they have been a big part of Plaza East. I just have to say that, [24:11] You know they've been a big part of us. So thank you Joyce and the older and I love you. Love you both [24:25] Hello greetings. Good morning president or as commissioners [24:29] CEO letters you I'm Thorke is lofty [24:31] I'm the executive director of the office of community investment infrastructure and as you know [24:35] We just heard from the biographies [24:37] These two young ladies participate now hundreds point shipyard citizens advisor committee were appointed by mayor idly [24:44] And I just want to say thank you both so much for all the work you do on that committee [24:49] and all the work you do in the community. [24:52] This national recognition and well done for you guys to give them a recognition. [24:57] This is great work representing the Housing Authority. [25:00] The Hunters Point Shipyard work is not easy. [25:03] The community and the residents around it want to know what's happening [25:06] and you just heard them report on our committee meeting last night. [25:11] So they're spreading the word letting people know [25:13] And they're modeling good leadership, good representation [25:17] in the neighborhood for young folks, for their peers, [25:20] and everybody who sees them be in the community [25:23] and shows the best of themselves at all times. [25:26] And Ms. Kimberly Brown worked with her for a long time [25:28] as well. [25:30] And anyway, we just got a great community. [25:32] So I just want to applaud them all. [25:33] Thank you. [25:34] Thank you so much. [25:38] Good morning. [25:39] I, too, want to say congratulations [25:41] to Ms. Joyce and Ms. Ganz. [25:43] I have been, had the honor of working with them from being a clerk all the way up to [25:49] being a director at the Housing Authority, and they have, thank you, and they have molded [25:55] me and guided me and showed me how to work in our community and how to come and represent [26:02] ourselves professionally and personally, and so I too congratulate you and thank you [26:07] and I love you both. [26:07] I [26:16] don't usually cry and get emotional. [26:20] I'm 53. [26:22] I first met Joyce Armstrong when I was 18 [26:25] at Omega Boys and Girls Club [26:29] at the Petrel Hill Neighborhood House. [26:32] And of course, growing up in the Bayview Hunters Point, [26:36] I had many examples of leadership, [26:39] especially with the Big Five. [26:40] life. But my life has been a beautiful movie. I was blessed to be directly in office, like [26:51] work office, shoulder to shoulder with Joyce Armstrong and the great Neola Maxwell. [27:02] I've [27:02] learned so much from them. So that's like 35 years. We reunited at the Housing Authority. [27:14] 2004, Neola became our treasurer of PHTA. We've been working hard and strong for decades. [27:24] I've learned so much from them and we all know they've been through some tremendous [27:32] adversity these past couple of years but they keep pushing y'all keep praying for [27:39] them keep uplifting them keep encouraging them because they carry a lot [27:45] not just their families they are serving leaders they give to this city [27:51] people respect them nationwide they seek their advice and knowledge so [27:58] So let's keep them encouraged, let's keep our resident leaders encouraged as we encourage [28:03] and pray for all of you. [28:06] Thank you. [28:12] Any more comments from members of the public in honor of the leadership and service of Joyce [28:18] Armstrong and Neola Gans? [28:21] We got somebody online. [28:24] Dennis Williams. [28:27] Can you hear me? [28:29] Yes. [28:30] Good morning. [28:31] I just want to second and third everyone and congratulate the pillars of our [28:37] community. I said congratulations to Ms. Leola Gaines as well as George Armstrong [28:42] who was instrumental at Plaza East as our resident councillor as Martha stated [28:48] earlier during our redevelopment. Listening to the community, listening to [28:55] moms and and and other leaders in the community talk about the uninhabitable living conditions [29:02] that we were experiencing and what we could do to help. So I that doesn't it doesn't fall on deaf [29:10] ears all the years that we were all together and that they would come from Berna and other [29:14] places. So I just want to thank that and also the work that they do around the city [29:18] and not just over here in D5. I just want to say this is their day and thank you the [29:24] to our community, black women, intelligent and strong, and Queens of San Francisco. [29:30] So thank you. [29:30] I look forward to working with them or any resources that they have for up-and-coming [29:36] black leaders as myself. [29:38] Thank you much. [29:43] All right. [29:44] Any more comments or observations from commissioners? [29:50] All right. [29:51] Well, I know it was early, Madam President, and I know it was early Ms. Ganz. [29:57] I want to make sure that [30:00] You know, and I hope that the rest of your day is light on your feet knowing that you get to enjoy being recognized and receiving the accolades that you so rightfully deserve for your leadership and your commitment to the people of San Francisco and the residents of public housing. [30:16] It really is an honor to be able to work with you and learn from you, and I hope that you both and you, Kimberly, as well, get to enjoy a magnificent day just in honor of the service that you've been doing. [30:27] Well, just know we're going back to Berlin, give out 30 more turkeys. [30:32] We gave out 60 on Wednesday, and some vegetable boxes. [30:37] So you know, we really appreciate what you've done for us. [30:45] Lindo, we met when I was doing the Hope SF training, and he's been a great friend [30:54] and provided us insight and when we needed him [30:57] and called on him for many, many years. [31:00] So all of you, we appreciate you being here [31:04] to represent the residents. [31:07] And Madam CEO, did I say it right? [31:10] Because you have a lot of time with CEO, O-O-E-I-E-I-O. [31:17] All of you, Linda, Bennett, thank you for hanging in there [31:21] why my email was compromised. They said I was selling a Mercedes, an Infiniti. I've [31:28] been asking for money and everybody was like, that don't sound like Joyce. Thank God they [31:32] knew that it was something that wasn't right. But we want to appreciate you and do expect [31:38] your continued support as we move on through this year and next year. [31:44] Thank you again so so much please I'm not one to speak I just do but I just want [31:55] to thank you commissioners and the housing authority for recognizing Joyce [32:03] and I yes it's been a long haul and it's been a many days that I wanted to [32:09] quit. But [32:22] I'm getting up in age and I can't do like I used to, but I tried to. Some days [32:33] is up, some days are down. But I just want to say thank you for you guys recognizing [32:39] me and Joyce and everyone who's here today. Thank you. [32:46] Thank you. [32:53] All right. [32:54] Thank you all so much for being here for that moment. [32:59] CEO Letizu, do you have other items in general communication you want to move into, [33:03] or should we move to Plaza East and the finance report first? [33:07] Okay, great. We'll move forward to Plaza East then. [33:10] That's item 7a for the Plaza East update, and we have Ron Bowen from John Stewart Company. [33:23] Hi Joyce. [33:24] Hi. [33:24] You're a pretty hard act to follow. [33:26] Good morning, commissioners. [33:41] Thank you [33:49] so much. Our first slide is staffing. Last time we met, we were short to staff members [33:58] and assistant manager and maintenance tech. And during the reporting period, that was [34:04] still true. However, we hired an assistant manager on November 12th, and yesterday we [34:10] We made an offer to a maintenance tech that's been working as a temp. [34:13] So we're just about fully staffed again. [34:15] So really happy to report that. [34:18] I went down and met the new assistant manager. [34:21] She has a lot of experience, strong ties in the communities. [34:24] We met with the tenant council and introduced her. [34:28] So that's exciting news for us. [34:31] Next slide, please. [34:36] I should probably apologize for not being here last month. [34:38] We had a leadership training. [34:39] so I haven't been here since the August report so if you have any questions [34:45] going back a couple months I can also take those but last month we did [34:49] completed 205 work orders which is the largest amount we have ever done at the [34:56] end of October we had two work orders left both of those were for vacant [35:00] units in September we had 16 work orders left when we ended the month [35:10] That was because we opened a bunch right before the first of the month and didn't close them for a couple days [35:16] None of them were emergency work orders [35:19] In September and October both there were no emergency work orders that went over one day or [35:24] Went from one month to the next [35:28] Is there any questions on the the work order report? I [35:32] Do really thank you very much [35:33] I know that we engage in a lot of back-and-forth in the meetings [35:37] and I do really want to acknowledge all the work that you do in trying to sort of take [35:41] the feedback and making changes. [35:43] So thank you very much and I appreciate the end of balance total. [35:47] Thank you very much. [35:48] Yeah, there's a little story behind that because I looked at it one month. [35:52] So the property management software we use is pretty complicated and there's a lot of [35:57] manually adding things up and I noticed there was a discrepancy. [36:01] So I said we need to start adding this up each month because sometimes you're [36:04] carrying things over for a month before. [36:05] four, as you first pointed out. It's also interesting, for several months when we first [36:11] started talking, we had zero work orders left over at the end of the month. But the last [36:15] three or four months, we've had them overhanging each month. So I've been tracking that. [36:21] Next slide, please. [36:28] This is a snapshot of the next five slides. It was what we used [36:34] to use before. So if we could just go past this, if you don't mind. And I'll go [36:38] through it frame by frame. The first one is occupied units. In October, we moved one person [36:47] in. So that was the only change on this slide. [36:54] This is vacant and rentable. This number went [36:58] from six to seven. And in reality, we turned two units over. But one was rented and the [37:05] other remains rentable. [37:09] Next slide, please. [37:14] Vacant and under remodeling is exactly [37:15] what it sounds like, and you'll see that this number reduced by two in October, and those [37:20] are the two that I just discussed. One went to the vacant and rentable category, and one [37:25] went to the occupied category. Next slide, please. [37:34] These are units that are offline because they need significant repairs. They also include [37:41] four units for security and services and the employee unit. [37:49] Just on the, with regards, thank you again so much for this, it's really, it's very helpful. [37:54] With regards to the address with other funds, are those, for those units needing extensive [37:59] repairs that we're seeing here in that 18 number that will need them, is the intent [38:05] here to draw down from funds to be awarded as part of the RFP process? [38:11] That's my understanding. [38:12] Okay, great. [38:13] All right. [38:13] So, and then in terms of when that scope of work would begin, just based on our timeline [38:19] of the RFP, can we speak just generally about that or if we can speak specifically even [38:25] better? [38:28] So, that's for the vacant unit RFP, the proposal I do today, so it's closing today. [38:34] So our hope is we'll do the scoring and bring it to commission for approval next [38:37] month and our hope is by early next year we'll be able to start the work for all [38:42] the vacant unit. [38:43] Okay, great. [38:43] All right, so the RFP process will conclude today by what time? [38:47] 3 p.m. [38:48] By 3 p.m. [38:49] So for those individuals that are seeking to benefit from contracting [38:55] dollars that are available for these types of repairs, they would need to respond by 3 p.m. [38:59] today. [38:59] The information is on the website. [39:01] Correct. [39:02] And then we'll come back and hear that. [39:03] I'm to formally approve the decision with regards to those applications after [39:08] your internal review process here at the commission that will take place. [39:11] I want to say in the second week of December and again that will be a [39:17] special meeting again when we'll hear that item for the plaza east there and [39:20] then that work will then hopefully commence after conversations with the [39:25] awardee in January of 2025. Okay great thank you. [39:34] Okay that was very helpful [39:36] next slide please. [39:41] These are the same numbers again all together showing the [39:45] movement between the buckets of units. [39:50] Next slide please. [39:55] These show the move-ins, which [39:57] there was one and there were no move-outs. I don't have a slide on occupancy, but I do [40:01] want to mention that we have seven units and we have applicants. We have had in the last [40:07] couple months seven applicants. Some have declined the unit, some are in process, some [40:12] are getting pretty close to moving in, so that's exciting news. We will report on [40:18] that after they move in I will report to the board on the length of time it took us to [40:23] process the applicants that seem to be of some interest a few months ago so we continue [40:28] to track that. [40:30] Just a quick question for clarification. I see that you put under pending both sort [40:37] of needing extensive repairs and offline but those offline will just remain offline because [40:43] they're needed for security storage and things like that or is the plan to eventually take [40:48] Because I just wonder whether they wouldn't necessarily be in the pending unless at some [40:52] point they're going to go into a rentable unit. [40:57] Those are two different categories. [40:58] Does that make sense? [40:59] Sure. [40:59] Exactly. [41:00] So ultimately that is an owner question, but I will tell you the intent as far as [41:04] I know it. [41:05] Those units will stay offline. [41:07] HUD has kind of a weird way of counting them. [41:09] If it was a different type of building, we wouldn't even count them as a resident [41:12] unit because they're not really resident units. [41:15] There is a service office, there's a security office, there's two security [41:20] offices, and there's a storage office, and I think we intend those to stay that [41:23] way. But I can't speak necessarily for what may happen in coming years. [41:30] Okay. [41:34] Commissioner, so they are on our books, they're offline, and we have to [41:39] obtain approval from HUD to have offline units, so they will continue [41:44] you to remain offline. That concludes my report. Is there any questions? How are [41:53] you planning for the season that we're in right now? Do you mean the weather? Yeah. [41:59] Well we did last month, we did a gutter cleaning, so we do that twice a year. We [42:05] do it after the rain, sorry, after the leaves fall and before the leaves fall. [42:09] So we took care of that. You know, summer and winter we do daily walks of [42:15] the entire property to check for floods and blockages downspouts that get blocked up, things [42:24] like that. [42:25] Security doesn't walk every night, they also check on maintenance items. [42:29] We have some dehumidifiers in place in case of leaks or things like that. [42:36] So how is coordination going with the city on any other outstanding issues? [42:41] I mean, I know we have a very specific budget to deal with issues on-site, maintenance, [42:46] et cetera, landscaping. [42:49] Are there any other additional items that the city could be supportive in? [42:53] And how is that coordination going? [42:55] I'd say it goes well. [42:57] I mean, I think what you're asking about would be things that come up that are on [43:01] budget hit or on planned. [43:04] So when that happens, per our management agreement, we ask for approval, we get [43:09] bids. We get things done that may have been not foreseen when we did the budget. So it's [43:17] going well. The property manager is getting the bids needed. The San Francisco Housing [43:23] Authority has approved them. [43:26] We continue to meet. Is it bi-weekly? We meet with services, [43:31] houses, the housing authority, and the John Stewart company and discuss the needs of the [43:39] property, how things are going with the residents, strategize on things going forward. [43:43] And further support of the city department agencies such as the police department, Department [43:48] of Public Works, or the Department of Homelessness and Support of Housing, are there any other [43:55] additional issues that you're in conversation with them about or need their support on? [44:00] Not at this time. Okay. Great. Thank you so much. All right. Happy Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving. [44:10] We also have a services update from FRH Consulting. [44:23] Good morning. Good morning, commissioners. [44:26] I'm Camille Hegnia, service coordinator at Plaza East. [44:30] Shaquembergette, a services coordinator at Plaza East. [44:33] For the month of October, services have successfully assisted with all up-to-date relocations, [44:39] hosted a coffee hour for eight residents, provided weekly hot meals to 24 families on [44:44] site every Wednesday. We partnered with the Tenant Association to offer senior programming [44:50] bingo on the last Tuesday of each month. 16 residents attended our last one, assisted with [44:57] with scheduling, killing, and wellness one-on-one. [45:00] For two residents on site with DPH, we partnered with Booker T to provide Halloween giveaway with [45:09] the truck of treat. We had pumpkin pickups. They also provided us with some used bikes [45:12] to give away to residents on site. Yes. We were also able to assist property [45:18] management without reach for work order meetings and making sure that the residents [45:22] understand that they are not at fault for reporting anything that needs to be fixed [45:27] in the unit. We were also able to provide five residents with different pieces of clothing [45:33] and socks. Thank you Housing Authority for your donation. We are also accepting donations [45:39] for our community closet at this time, so that'll be children's, teens, adults, both [45:46] men and women. We're accepting lightly used clothing, socks, jackets, especially [45:51] during this rainy weather season as well. And overall throughout October we were [45:57] able to service 155 residents with connections, referrals, and assistance through either financial [46:04] coaching and or PG&E assistance. [46:08] Thank you. [46:08] Thank you. [46:09] Any questions for services? [46:12] No. [46:13] Thank you so much. [46:14] All right. [46:14] Thank you. [46:14] All right. [46:15] Thank you. [46:15] And happy holidays and happy Thanksgiving. [46:16] Happy holidays and happy Thanksgiving. [46:21] Yeah, yeah. [46:24] Ms. Martha, is there anything you'd like to add to the reports? [46:48] Yeah, I can. [46:50] I'd like for you all to meet a member of my board. [46:53] This is Calvin, Calvin, what's your last name? [46:56] Sudeen. [46:57] Sudeen, Calvin Sudeen. [46:59] And he is wanting to say, did you want to say something? [47:06] No? [47:08] He's new. [47:11] So we have to look over him a little bit, bless his heart. [47:16] Now, as far as just a few minutes on our FRH report, the resident council, and I want you [47:31] all to understand that the resident council has not been dormant, okay? [47:37] We've been working very hard in our community, and we've been keeping up with our, or trying [47:43] to keep up with all of our events and all of our programs that we're giving. [47:50] We cannot really do too much as far as our programs. [47:56] Our after-school program had to shut down because of non-funding. [48:02] funding. And our senior program, basically, myself, Ms. Lee and Ms. Lily puts money out [48:14] of our own pocket to keep that senior program going because that senior program is very [48:20] important in our community for older people, okay? Because our seniors cannot, you know, [48:28] they don't want to go anywhere else. They don't want to go to Book of T. They don't [48:31] want to go downhill or whatever the case may be they want to stay in their own [48:35] community that's why I created this senior program okay as far as our service [48:42] providers are concerned you know with the things I have their calendars I have [48:48] their flyers I have everything to show you if you need that evidence to show [48:54] you what they really have been doing in the community now they have not [48:59] reported to me that they were doing 150-something residents or whatever the [49:03] case may be. We have been doing most of our work in the community. What they [49:10] have been doing we don't know, okay. A few residents mostly come to us and [49:18] tell us either where are they, they can't get in touch with them, you know, [49:23] and a few other things that's going on. I had given them a contract to [49:28] follow for our community like an MOU. We have not had any satisfaction there. Okay. And you [49:38] know, it's just, it's just not working, in other words, not working. So what we're doing [49:45] now is trying to get our O, our LOA to the housing authority so we can have a meeting [49:54] to try to find out what will be our moving forward position. [50:02] Okay, we need to know because, you know, we've been in this void for a long, long time. [50:11] We've had people to come into the community telling us all kinds of different things [50:17] that they're going to do, excuse me, they're going to do but never do, you know, resonate. [50:23] And, you know, we've been disappointed and we've been let down and we feel like we're [50:29] lost, okay? [50:31] So therefore, we are just asking to please, you know, come and meet with us, please, [50:38] and let us know, give us some, you know, rest to our minds, to our residents' minds, [50:47] to our community. [50:49] We need that, you know? [50:50] know, we have been in the community for a long, long time. We know what goes on there. [50:57] And we, you know, I'm not standing before you today just a lie. You know, I'm telling [51:02] you what's happening in Plaza East. I am the resident council. People come to me. They [51:08] tell me what's going on in their units. I've been working with Ron Bowen. [51:18] He's [51:18] hard, you know, to, you know, let our tenants know that, you know, we can count, you know, [51:28] on him. And he and I have, you know, gotten a really good report with each other. Ms. [51:36] Martha, he would tell me, you know, just tell me, whoever is in the community that [51:40] comes to you, you know, because they do come to me. And who comes to you and lets [51:44] you know what's going wrong with their units, let me know. [51:48] And this is the kind of respect in the community that we need. [51:54] Everybody wants respect in their community. [51:57] Everybody deserves respect in their community. [52:00] We are just not tossed away like the wind. [52:05] We are a community of people who need and who are trying to move forward so we can [52:13] do other things in this this year coming up. So we can do better things for our [52:17] community, okay? So that's about all I have to say. We do have this LOA. We want [52:27] to meet with the Housing Authority. We want to talk and we want to talk, you [52:31] know, like adults. We don't want to, you know, get in disputes with one [52:35] another and we don't want to you know you know just just ignore each other's [52:43] needs we want each other we want to be respected like everybody else respects I [52:49] respect you all as a commissioner and Plaza East wants to be respected too we [52:56] really do thank you thank you so much miss Martha Calvin did you have anything [53:00] that? Yes. [53:03] Okay. I'm sorry. [53:09] Well, in the fact that not knowing what's going on with Plaza [53:13] East, that's stressful. I had pronged with rats. And the management didn't take care [53:22] of it, so I had to take care of myself. And so I got three cats, which took care of that. [53:35] And the stress is not knowing what's going on with Plaza Ease. And now I have these cats [53:43] to take care of. And I don't know what's going to happen if I will have to, if I move, [53:51] I would have to get rid of them or whatever. [53:56] And so the thing is the failure of engaging with residents, housing authorities, [54:12] and we basically need to get together and find out what's going on with Plaza East. [54:21] Calvin, thank you so much for that and what we will do is plan to have a follow-up meeting [54:30] with Plaza East, Resident Counsel, the DAC, and invite our partners to be present in the [54:36] room so we can all have a conversation at once about what our plans are moving forward. [54:44] forward. As of right now, as we've said in previous meetings, based on our conversations, [54:52] our priority and focus to date has been just on getting the service dollars out the door [54:59] so that we can complement existing services that other study departments are invested [55:05] in at Plaza East to complement that and also to ensure that those capital improvement [55:12] dollars are out on the street so that those units as listed earlier can be [55:17] taken care of and that's what our focus is right now but let's set up that [55:21] meeting and why don't we plan on doing that in right after the Thanksgiving [55:27] holiday in December and you should plan to hear from us to help set up that [55:32] date moving forward so thank you so much and we'll plan on doing that [55:36] probably right before our next Commission meeting okay all right thank [55:39] Thank you. [55:40] Thank you all so much and happy holidays. [55:42] I'm glad the turkey giveaways are going well. [55:43] I'm glad that property management, as we are feeling, you are feeling as well that there [55:47] is a positive movement there. [55:49] And we just have some more work to do, and I want to thank everyone for the services and [55:53] the work that are occurring at Plaza East, ensuring our families and our seniors and [55:58] residents are being served. [55:59] And we always know that we can do more, and that's our commitment to come and [56:03] sit down with you and discuss that. [56:04] Thank you so much. [56:08] Item 7B is the finance report, [56:15] and this also has a slide presentation as well. [56:19] Thank you, commissioners. Good morning to everyone. [56:22] Good morning. [56:23] So I think, so obviously we have two reports today. [56:26] One is the finance reports and the other one is an update on the investment that we have done for the authority. [56:33] And this report is really a focus looking backwards because we're going to look at what we did in fiscal year 2024, right? [56:40] So our fiscal year ended September 30th, 2024, and if you look at the housing choice voucher [56:48] program, just looking at the revenues, the revenues were in line with what the approved [56:54] budget was. [56:56] So there's really not much discussion to be had over there. [57:01] On the expenses line, we did have a savings over the budget of about roughly $3 million. [57:08] A lot of that was really concentrated in the IT modernization that we planned to take on [57:16] in 24 and that was pushed out to fiscal year 25. [57:20] So that money will be spent on the IT modernization and the other part is the tenant services [57:26] money that we talked about when we did our fiscal year 25 and we gave you the details [57:31] behind that. That was also pushed out to 25. You know, just as a background, we have about 200 [57:39] vouchers currently out on the street. If you look to spend the tenant services portion on those 200 [57:47] vouchers, that'll be about a million dollars. So we expect in 25, even without issuing any [57:53] additional vouchers, there'll be a million dollars spent from tenant services for those [57:58] $200 vouchers. Helping them with application fees, security deposit, utility expenses, so [58:05] forth and so on. And then the other thing I wanted to discuss and as Bennett gets through [58:13] the slide, we always talk about the admin fees for HCV. But there's another portion [58:19] of the HCV project that we rarely talk about and that's really the HAP funding. [58:25] Next slide. [58:29] the HAP funding of $394 million. Next slide please. And what I wanted to do was really [58:36] take an opportunity and break down the HAP funding into really what are all the different [58:40] services that we provide. We keep talking about the HCV bucket. But really if you look [58:46] at this slide, these are all the services that we provide for that $394 million. So [58:51] So we provide, you know, 844 vouchers for the Veterans Affair, and this is obviously just [58:58] like it sounds, right, to provide rental assistance for veterans. [59:02] We also have 110 vouchers out on a monthly basis for the Family Unification Program, [59:09] and this is really to address families who are at risk of being separated from their [59:13] children due to lack of adequate housing. [59:17] We also do the foster to youth independence, and this we highlighted in our 25, right? [59:25] And this is providing vouchers to youths between 18 and 18 to 25 years old who have been in foster care [59:31] and want to come out of the foster care. [59:34] And this is one we highlighted where for this program we specifically got 17 competitive vouchers [59:42] for the foster youth. [59:44] And the way you get those competitive vouchers is you have to have a utilization that's about 90%. [59:49] I think a current utilization at the end of October was almost 94, 95%. [59:56] And then the last part of this is the home ownership. [1:00:00] Program. And we see, we have, in totality, we address seven families in home ownership. [1:00:08] And just to highlight this, in ever since our existence, prior to last year, we had four people [1:00:14] in home ownership. Last year, we were able to move three people into home ownership. [1:00:20] And so that's quite a feat when you think about what we had in the history. And again, [1:00:25] In this, the home ownership, the foster use independence, and the FSS programs are areas [1:00:32] of programs that we highlighted that will focus on FY 2025 as we look to spend the money. [1:00:42] Next slide, please. [1:00:46] And I'll keep going until there's any questions. [1:00:49] The next slide is on the emergency housing voucher. [1:00:52] And again, once over here, you'll see we are pretty much in line with the budget. [1:00:57] Obviously, we have additional admin subsidy. [1:01:01] Not sure we were able to use the vouchers of the 906 by the end of September. [1:01:06] Obviously, by today, we're well above the 906 vouchers that were leased. [1:01:13] On the administrative expenses front, again, the savings that you see over there is really [1:01:20] related to both the IT modernization that we were going to undertake in 25 got pushed [1:01:26] out and also some of the tenant services that got pushed out that will probably end up spending [1:01:34] in FY 2025. [1:01:37] And I think on the next slide please. I think this is just to give you an overall of [1:01:43] where we stand with the number of vouchers issued on EHV. As you can see back in October 2022 [1:01:50] When we started this program, we were barely over 300, and over the last fiscal year, we [1:02:00] really ramped up the number of vouchers to exceed the 906 vouchers that were awarded [1:02:07] to us. [1:02:15] Next slide, please. [1:02:18] This is on the central office cost center. [1:02:22] The management fee revenues, as we expected for each program, were in line, so we expected [1:02:27] the management fee revenues to be in line. The other revenues of $1.8 million is a lot of [1:02:34] ancillary revenue that we get from the North Beach surplus, from the dividends we get from [1:02:42] insurance companies. We had about an additional $100,000 when we sold our cars that we had [1:02:50] when we had a reduction in force. We had extra vehicles that we no longer needed, [1:02:56] so we got 100K. So all in all, the total is about $1.8 million that we have in other revenues. [1:03:05] On the expenses line, our compensation was over budget. This was really related to the pension [1:03:14] and the health benefit that we pay for retirees. And so I think there's just a miscategorization [1:03:22] of where I think the expenses lied versus where the budget lied but as you [1:03:27] can see in the overall the total expenses is just slightly above the approved [1:03:31] budget. So we have a saving there and then obviously the the additional saving [1:03:38] will be spent as we look to undergo the IT modernization in 25. [1:03:47] On the Hope 6 [1:03:48] project or programs that we have these really address Plaza East and North [1:03:55] beach properties. You know, as we've told you in the past, the amount of revenues that [1:04:01] we get from HIDIS passed on 100% to these properties. In addition, in 2023, we gave [1:04:10] out an additional $730,000 to Plaza East to cover the insurance expenses and to date [1:04:17] in fiscal year 24, we've given them another $554,000 to cover the additional expenses. [1:04:26] And this does not address the amount of money of capital funds that we have allocated to [1:04:32] its plaza east. [1:04:34] So that's an additional amount of money, and I think that totals, if I'm not mistaken, [1:04:39] close to $8 million. [1:04:45] The next slide is public housing. [1:04:48] housing. On the public housing, again, this is one where we draw down the subsidy as needed, [1:04:56] and we have these pension withdrawal liabilities that we pay either on a monthly or quarterly [1:05:01] basis. Our pension withdrawal liability at the end of September 2024, September 30th fiscal [1:05:10] year was approximately $12 million. Thus far, we've paid $3 million to us at pension [1:05:16] trust liability, and we paid just $1.8 million in fiscal year 2024. [1:05:28] The next slide will be mainstream. [1:05:31] And mainstream, this is really serving the non-elderly people with disabilities. [1:05:36] We serve about 200 families in this program out of the 229 available units that we have, [1:05:42] so we have a pretty high utilization and we'll look to increase that for the non-elderly [1:05:49] disabled people. [1:05:49] So, [1:05:53] the Mod Rehab, this is the Senator Hotel, this is the SRO building, I guess it was supposed [1:05:59] to convert to RAD, not sure when that conversion will take place. [1:06:09] And the last slide is just basically a combination of all the programs that you see in here again. [1:06:16] Those savings are really a delay. [1:06:19] And just keep in mind, we've talked about this many times, with those savings in [1:06:23] And each one of those programs, be it housing choice voucher, be it emergency housing, or [1:06:29] be it in public housing, those dollar amounts are to stay with those programs. [1:06:35] They can't be commingled in total. [1:06:39] So the number may look big, but again, they're very specific to those individual programs. [1:06:49] Next slide on the H.C.V. [1:06:50] metrics. [1:06:55] Thank you, Roy. [1:06:55] Good morning, commissioners. [1:06:56] Just wanted to give a quick update on the HDD metrics for the calendar year 2024. [1:07:03] So currently we're spending around 34 million a month for the half expense and that's ready [1:07:09] to pay for the subsidy for the HDD program and for this month we received 34.5 from HUD [1:07:17] And for the full year, our funding authority plus the reserve we had in 2023 added up to [1:07:26] 406 million. [1:07:28] And our spending is right at 406 million. [1:07:31] So we've been in conversation with HUD because currently we are projecting a small shortfall [1:07:37] for this calendar year because we are working with our contractors CVR and PM making sure [1:07:42] we process all the sum of the outstanding moving, really some of the whole we have with some [1:07:47] of this developer. So we do expect to have some expense to process this month. So we don't [1:07:53] have the full number yet. But based on all the protection we see, we may end up either [1:08:00] a small shortfall or really estimated reserve that's really small, like in the $100,000. [1:08:07] So right now we're working with Heard. We've been providing some data to Heard [1:08:10] And they would provide some funding if you need to. [1:08:13] So that's going to be a reconciliation that we have to do with the team. [1:08:16] We heard local office and the shortfall team. [1:08:20] So in terms of restricted cash, we don't have any cash left. [1:08:23] Right now we've been spending all the funding received from HUD. [1:08:27] So we are, and this is as a result of all the leasing plan we implemented this year and last year. [1:08:33] So we issued 400 PV last year. [1:08:35] We've been pulling names on the waitlist and providing some voucher. [1:08:39] But for 2024, and this is the first time since I've been, I don't see, HUD apply offset [1:08:46] to our budget authority at first when they did the interval, data capture 10 million. [1:08:51] And then later during the year, last August, they also did a second offset. [1:08:55] And from what we heard as the first time, HUD did this type of offset across the country. [1:09:01] And that second offset is really resulting in this situation because if it wasn't [1:09:05] for that offset of 5 million, we definitely would have that 5 million reserve. But due [1:09:10] to that offset in August, we are in this situation where we may end up in the shortfall for 2024. [1:09:19] But shortfall meaning we are spending more than our budget authority and HUD will provide [1:09:23] some budgetary funding. [1:09:26] And can you, again, just talk about the offset actions that were taken by HUD. So one [1:09:31] was 10 million. When was that during the calendar year? [1:09:34] Because that's when the, for the renewal of 2024 kind of year, because typically for the [1:09:40] renewal, how do you use your expenditure, the total expenditure from the prior year, [1:09:45] and then apply a small efficient factor. [1:09:48] But this year what they did, since we had over 4 million reserve last year, 40 million [1:09:53] reserve, they offset our renewal instead of giving us the full funding for the amount [1:09:59] of expense we did last year. [1:10:01] We spent like 370 million last year. [1:10:03] So we will, instead of giving us a $370 million renewal plus inflation, they offset $10 million. [1:10:09] So we ended up with only $360 million budget for 2024. [1:10:14] So that was one way for her to force us to use the reserve we have. [1:10:20] But that surplus offset didn't have, it was $10 million, but we still had some reserve [1:10:25] that took over all the expense. [1:10:26] The second offset they did in August 2024, that's really what's impacting us. [1:10:33] Did they give any indications that they were going to be pursuing a secondary offset that would be out of practice for them, [1:10:39] even though they have the statutory right to do so? [1:10:41] Yeah, they have the statutory right to do it. [1:10:43] There was no indication they were going to do a second offset. [1:10:46] But they give no indication that we should be expecting or planning for a second offset? [1:10:50] There was no indication. [1:10:51] Yes, exactly. [1:10:53] When they did the offset, we actually appealed the offset, we provided all the documentation [1:10:58] to show that we had the second offset that's going to put this agency at risk of shortfall. [1:11:03] And did anyone within HUD give us any indication that this was about to be put in the motion [1:11:08] from the regional office or otherwise? [1:11:10] No, no. [1:11:11] It came as a surprise for everyone. [1:11:12] It was just a notification that... [1:11:13] Thank you. [1:11:13] Yeah. [1:11:19] And that's irrespective of the countless conversations that the Housing Authority is having on [1:11:23] How frequently basis is the housing authority speaking with HUD monthly basis on a monthly basis? Yes shortfall team and the local office [1:11:30] so [1:11:32] So local office and the shortfall team on a monthly basis of connection and no indication [1:11:36] There was going to be an offset of this size to materially impact our ability to put vouchers on the street in San Francisco [1:11:42] Yes, exactly great. Thank you [1:11:45] And this is a two different office from earth [1:11:47] So there's one office that doing the offset and the shortfall teams. It's not office [1:11:52] That's going to help us. [1:11:53] So the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing, they're not communicating with [1:11:56] each other, it's indicative of how bureaucracies work and we're seeing that happen and affect [1:11:59] us right now. [1:12:01] Thank you. [1:12:03] Thank you. [1:12:04] Question? [1:12:06] No more questions for me. [1:12:07] Any questions from commissioners? [1:12:10] All right. [1:12:11] All right. [1:12:31] And then my next report is just to give you a quick update on the investments [1:12:35] that we have done for the authority. [1:12:38] As you know, the overall goal, the purpose of the investments, next slide, please. [1:12:48] Next slide. [1:12:52] It's really just to help us pay off the pension liability that we had, right? [1:12:57] And then the other benefit that we get from these is we can fund different initiatives [1:13:02] like the Turkey Drive, like the Toy Drive and all that. [1:13:06] And the objective will always remain this. [1:13:07] I'm sorry, just a quick question. [1:13:09] The pension liability number was 14 here, but on a previous slide. [1:13:12] I think there was 14 as of September 30th. [1:13:14] That was the overall pension. [1:13:15] There was a 12 number that was earlier? [1:13:17] Exactly. [1:13:18] And so there's 12 numbers as of October. [1:13:21] Great. [1:13:21] Thank you. [1:13:22] Right. [1:13:22] Sorry. [1:13:24] You're paying attention. [1:13:25] I just want to make sure you know I'm looking at the numbers. [1:13:28] Thank you. [1:13:29] So are we. [1:13:30] Exactly. [1:13:33] And the objective over here again is capital preservation, return on investment and liquidity. [1:13:40] And then we could probably just skip the next couple of slides. [1:13:45] Next slide. [1:13:48] And I think, you know, we've still taken a look at these different options that we have available to us. [1:13:53] And we still look at the U.S. Treasury being the most attractive opportunity. [1:13:59] Bless you. [1:14:00] The U.S. Treasury being the most attractive opportunity that we have. [1:14:04] And if you go into the next slide, we have two separate programs. [1:14:10] We have one which is the COCC Reserve. [1:14:13] This is just our general fund money that we are able to invest. [1:14:18] And as you can see, again, these are just the Depension Fund cross-library over here [1:14:24] is a little over 12 million. [1:14:25] This was as of September 30th, 2024. [1:14:28] The other one was as of current. [1:14:30] And you can see over here, we will mask quite a amount of dividends, again, to help benefit [1:14:38] our tenants and our residents in the city of San Francisco. [1:14:46] The next slide is on the public housing reserve. [1:14:48] Again, if you take a look at this average throughout the time frame, certainly throughout [1:14:52] the first five months, on average, we've got about 4.96 percent return on our money. [1:15:00] Which, given the current rates at about 4.3, we've been pretty good. [1:15:08] That's pretty much all I have on the investments. [1:15:11] Thank you. Thank you so much. [1:15:13] If there's [1:15:24] no additional Commissioner's comment on the finance report, we continue [1:15:27] item number 7C for the Chief Executive, Officers General Communications. [1:15:46] Thank you, everyone, for your reports. [1:15:48] And thank you to the staff for the continued hard work that each of you do in our agency. [1:15:54] So I just want to circle back, as we know, we're headed to the holidays and lots have [1:16:01] been done over the last several months to prepare for the Turkey Giveaways. [1:16:07] So I want to give an update on this year's annual season of giving with the Turkey Giveaway. [1:16:13] The authority worked diligently with our partners to distribute and coordinate pickup [1:16:18] up 5,751 turkeys and 2,500 assembled grocery bags with all the Thanksgiving fixings across [1:16:28] 93 different sites and community partners this month. [1:16:33] And so this annual event is important for our agency's goal to serve our residents in [1:16:37] the present while supporting them in their pursuit of success in the future. [1:16:42] By distributing turkeys on an annual basis, this helps provide stability for our residents [1:16:47] during the busy season of giving and it enables our communities to grow closer together and [1:16:53] consistent annual traditions, which is really important. [1:16:58] And we're really proud of the work that we've done so far as it relates to giving back to [1:17:02] our residents and the community at large. [1:17:05] And I'd like to thank the A. Phillip Randolph Institute for leading the Turkey Giveaways [1:17:10] as well as our other partners at E. Burns LLC, the San Francisco Police Department [1:17:15] Department and Sheriff's Department, the Rec and Parts Department, the Mayor's Office of [1:17:20] Housing and Community Development, the California Highway Patrol, as well as our Human Services [1:17:27] Agency for their dedicated work in this annual tradition. [1:17:31] And we are also headed towards working for our next holiday event where we're doing [1:17:44] the same departments in this work. [1:17:50] And then I'd like to talk [1:17:57] about a serious incident that we had occurred this year on our two [1:18:05] largest public housing sites that are being transformed. [1:18:09] That is both Sunnydale and Petrero. [1:18:11] And earlier this year, the authority received a very alarming report that individuals [1:18:18] trespassing and vacant units were allegedly making rent payments to an [1:18:23] EBMC employee. The authority immediately reached out to the city [1:18:28] attorney's office with the request to investigate this matter. Since then the [1:18:32] city attorney's office has spoken to over three dozen witnesses and two dozen [1:18:37] people. And this month the San Francisco City Attorney's Office issued a [1:18:43] memorandum, allegations of illegal rent collection by EVMC employee Lance [1:18:50] Wittenberg cannot be substantiated. Detailing its investigation into reports [1:18:56] of illegal activity involving a contract service provider of the Housing [1:19:00] Authority of the City and County of San Francisco. The memorandum has just been [1:19:06] shared with the Authority's Board of Commissioners. The City Attorney has [1:19:11] conducted an extensive investigation into allegations of illegal rent collection at [1:19:16] Petrel Hill, first reported in the newspaper Mission Local, and has discovered no evidence [1:19:22] to support the claims. Of the individuals who claim to have paid Eugene Berger Management [1:19:29] Corporation employee Lance Wittenberg, none could provide cooperation for their claims. [1:19:37] For those individuals claimed to have paid Mr. Wittenberg during times when he was not employed by EBMC, [1:19:47] and though we are heartened to see no evidence of wrongdoing on the part of our contractor, EBMC, [1:19:55] three non-leaseholders reported being extorted by unknown men under threat of violence, [1:20:01] and that is deeply troubling to us as an agency. [1:20:05] We are disturbed by the fact that people may be targeting vulnerable people in the community. [1:20:12] We take this matter very seriously while all the claims of illegal rent collection were [1:20:18] made by non-leaseholders, people who were unlawfully occupying buildings slated for demolition. [1:20:26] It is unacceptable to prey on vulnerable people under any circumstances. [1:20:32] We will continue to work with law enforcement, the city attorney's office, and other agencies to root out this behavior. [1:20:41] This situation underscores the need to keep unhabitable housing units, which are scheduled for demolition, uninhabited. [1:20:50] it. Squatting is simply not safe. It's not fair to or safe for our leaseholding residents. [1:20:58] And it is not safe for the non-leaseholders either. We urge anyone with knowledge or evidence [1:21:06] of illegal rent collection to contact the city attorney's office by email. [1:21:19] That email [1:21:20] attorney at sfcityatty.org. Telephone number is 415-554-3977. Again, 415-554-3977. Our [1:21:39] online will be HTTPS colon backslash backslash www.sfcityattorney.org backslash report hyphen [1:21:58] a hyphen complaint backslash. Any witnesses or experiencing any one witnessing or experiencing [1:22:08] threats of violence should call 9-1-1. We thank the office of the city attorney David [1:22:16] Chu for its hard work and continued attention to this matter. Commissioners, that is all [1:22:24] that I have to report today. Thank you. [1:22:25] Great, thank you so much. I just want to say thank you for the diligent work of you and [1:22:29] the authority in partnership with our vendors and of course the city attorney's office [1:22:33] to address this issue. We're very appreciative at how quickly you moved on this and just [1:22:39] want to say thank you very much for bringing this to our attention and communicating [1:22:42] this out. Thank you. [1:22:46] And I also just want to thank you again for ensuring people that they know that [1:22:50] the city is going to be adamant in pursuing any and all claims in this regard so [1:22:56] so we can best protect those who are within our communities. [1:23:00] Thank you so much. [1:23:03] I'd just like to say thank you to all of the staff [1:23:08] who have worked diligently through this process, [1:23:12] to Linda Mason, our general counsel, [1:23:16] to Ms. Kendra Crawford, who is our housing operations. [1:23:22] Thank you very much for just working alongside me [1:23:26] and all of the different agencies that we have had to work with regarding this matter. [1:23:35] That concludes all of the chief executive officer reports. [1:23:38] We can open for public comment on item number seven. [1:23:45] Hi. [1:23:45] Great report. [1:23:46] Thank you for that. [1:23:48] In regards to your Christmas toy giveaway coming up, I have a great elf costume that [1:23:53] I'll be available to volunteer to give out the toys if you so desire. [1:23:58] So does Commissioner Lindo. [1:23:59] Okay. [1:24:01] And do you know if it's too late for our [1:24:04] building to get in on the turkey giveaway or who I would talk to about that. [1:24:12] You know, let me do some digging. I'll have to do some digging. [1:24:17] Okay, thanks. I know it's late in the game, but thanks. [1:24:20] I'll have to do some digging. [1:24:20] Thank you. And thanks again for the report. [1:24:27] Mr. Williams online. Just unmute yourself. [1:24:31] Can you hear me? [1:24:32] Yes, we can. [1:24:34] Thank you much. And thank you, Commissioner. [1:24:35] I wish I could have went right after Plaza East as a head of the Development Advisory [1:24:40] Committee and a resident, but you guys kept going with the housing reports, so I hope [1:24:45] I get a little bit more time. [1:24:47] The Housing Authority just stated a lot of funding that has not only come to Plaza [1:24:54] East but BIPOC communities, housing vouchers, home ownership, and my question is where? [1:25:01] Currently, we've been complaining to Novoi to no response from Housing Authority, Ms. [1:25:09] Kendra, Ms. Tanya, and others of why are no black people being able to move into BIPOC [1:25:15] communities in Plaza East or on a never-ending waiting list? [1:25:18] Unfortunately, we see an influx of illegal immigrants and Chinese flooding in our communities, [1:25:24] especially Plaza E's with John Stewart not allowing or having no knowledge of how [1:25:31] to get long-standing black residents in D5 and also D10 we're in complaints over [1:25:37] there of the same thing we're not our black residents and long-standing [1:25:41] residents are not being allowed so Latino to move into our buildings and [1:25:46] they lay vacant especially at Plaza E's as we have numerous vacancies and I do [1:25:52] we'll touch on the capital improvement process, [1:25:54] but I was really a question of what's going on [1:25:57] and we're getting no reply and response from that. [1:26:00] Also at Plaza East, Ms. Tanya stated that [1:26:03] several units will still be set aside [1:26:06] for the security detail for John Stewart [1:26:10] to have storage and different things, [1:26:12] but they should have their own storage [1:26:14] and should not be using potential three-bear room, [1:26:18] four-bear room units that could be going to [1:26:20] black households and families that are crying out to, you know, to live in their [1:26:25] own communities, their long-standing communities. It applies to EDE. FRH [1:26:31] truly gives no PG&E assistance. How do I know? I just needed PG&E assistance and [1:26:37] several others and we were told that they have no funding, right? I don't [1:26:42] understand how every, you know, services come up to your guys' commission and can [1:26:48] give inflated numbers, we have no knowledge as our resident council stated. Also our resident [1:26:55] council, Mr. Calvin, stated just before that he has roaches and wrote in a state and currently [1:27:02] and the solution was he had to purchase, right? And it's not fair. John Stewart has also [1:27:09] told Mr. Ron stated today for the commission that they've been slow to fully staff. And [1:27:14] And this is not a problem since they've been here. [1:27:16] Same thing we stated with MBS, who's subsequently been removed. [1:27:21] Their lease policy even says in its highlight that their appliances can be given to place [1:27:25] each resident in any condition. [1:27:28] And we've been having for several years now an influx of old, shoddy, used appliances. [1:27:38] I was victim of such. [1:27:39] I had no washer because it stopped. [1:27:41] It was already used. [1:27:42] we protested because we were seeing bedbugs coming from these vacant units where these [1:27:48] appliances are kept and roaches, and then they would inhabit your home. So these policies are bad [1:27:53] that John Stewart is pushing on our people. And we've been protesting this fact, but yet again, [1:27:59] you guys are always in our Sadness Commission. You guys give them praises in our faces. And [1:28:04] there's so many people and even legal teams on this Zoom meeting that are listening to this [1:28:08] and it's egregious. [1:28:10] And last but not least was the head of the DAC [1:28:15] and been in every meeting and actually give points [1:28:18] that because we've been fighting so hard, [1:28:21] HUD section three to be compliant with like resident. [1:28:27] Great, thank you so much for the conference. [1:28:30] Thank you so much, Mr. Williams for the conference. [1:28:32] Well, I ask for a little bit of time, Mr. Joaquin, [1:28:35] You know, certainly we'll be happy to discuss those items when we come and sit down and have [1:28:39] a conversation with the council and with the development advisory committee and others. [1:28:44] I just need 15 more seconds, sir. [1:28:46] That was very rude. [1:28:47] But thank you very much. [1:28:48] I would love to see you again. [1:28:50] Great. [1:28:50] Great. [1:28:50] Thank you. [1:28:52] Well, Ms. Tiny, can you bring those receipts for the last capital improvements [1:28:56] that we've been so painstakingly wanting to know where the last money went, $7 million [1:29:00] plus, that we have not gotten accounted for? [1:29:03] The corruption in the city is... [1:29:05] Mr. Williams, thank you so much. [1:29:08] I know that CEO Letergy would be happy to bring those items again, [1:29:12] as we had discussed at the last... [1:29:14] I never brought them. [1:29:15] I would be happy to make sure that she brings those again, [1:29:19] as she did in the last meeting we had with the DAC. [1:29:22] I just want to thank you again so much for the work [1:29:25] and making the time to be present with us today. [1:29:27] All right, thank you so, so much. [1:29:34] We had one additional public comment online. [1:29:38] Please unmute yourself. [1:29:42] Hi. [1:29:43] Can you hear me? [1:29:44] Yes, we can. [1:29:45] Hi. [1:29:45] My name is Yolanda Moshow. [1:29:47] I'm a resident of Plaza East. [1:29:49] I've been a resident for more than 15 years. [1:29:52] I would just like to agree with what Dennis Williams is saying. [1:29:55] It has been a hostage takeover from the black community to illegal immigrants. [1:30:01] I just feel like we're doing better leadership down here. Martha Hollins has been our president [1:30:07] for over 19 years. I think it's time for a re-election in Plaza Ease. We need stronger, younger leadership [1:30:16] and that's what I have to say. [1:30:20] We need to have a re-election in Plaza Ease. [1:30:28] Thank you. Any additional public comment on item number 7? [1:30:37] Item number 8 is the committee [1:30:38] We did not have a committee meeting for November or we will not have one for December. So we continue this report until January of 2025. [1:30:46] That being said, any public comment that [1:30:52] we can go to item number nine. This is the consent agenda. We have one consent item for the meeting minutes of last month's meeting on October 24th. [1:30:59] Any comments from commissioners regarding the meeting minutes? [1:31:04] Then we can open for public comment on item number nine. [1:31:12] Just a quick moment. I wanted to ask for some clarification about some of the public comments [1:31:18] that we just heard from General Counsel Macy. Is there any observation that you wanted to [1:31:26] make with regards to issues of tenancy and immigration status, please? [1:31:35] Yes, I just wanted to say that the Housing Authority is regulated by the U.S. Department [1:31:40] of Housing and Urban Development, which are federal regulations, and in order to be in [1:31:45] the program, you do need to have a documented citizen of the United States to just be eligible [1:31:51] to be in the program. [1:31:52] So I just want to be cautious with the narrative that we just heard in the public [1:31:55] comment. [1:31:56] I also wanted to share that Mr. Williams was provided direction on how to apply for [1:32:02] the request for proposals that is currently open on November 1st, 2024 via email from our procurement staff. [1:32:13] Is it documented status or citizenship? [1:32:17] You have to be eligible and I can go into it but I just want to say that it is very complicated. [1:32:23] There's seven different categories that are within the plan and I'd be happy to bring that back to you because we will go down a much longer conversation, I will say. [1:32:31] And if I may, through the chair, if we could have our general counsel speak to the very [1:32:37] facts, it dovetails right into the allegations of illegal immigrants on property, but how [1:32:46] we fill our units as well. [1:32:51] So these are public housing units. [1:32:54] We are required to fill those public housing units through the public housing wait list. [1:32:58] And we have a wait list of individuals that have been waiting for many, many years [1:33:01] to fill these units as everybody knows the Housing Authority has converted over 45 properties [1:33:07] to the Section 8 department. So the only public housing units we have left are located at Plaza [1:33:12] and North Beach. So that means that everybody that's been waiting on that list is waiting [1:33:16] for one of those two units or two buildings. So as we have this RFP out to improve the [1:33:23] vacant units and make them habitable, individuals from that public housing wait list will [1:33:27] be offered the opportunity to fill those units. Thank you. [1:33:32] Great. Thank you. All right. Do we have a – thank you so much, Bennett. Do we have [1:33:38] a motion for – to approve the minutes as listed? [1:33:41] A motion to approve. [1:33:43] Great. Do we have a second? [1:33:45] I second. [1:33:45] All right. A first from Commissioner Pikes and a second from Commissioner Lindo. Vice [1:33:51] Chair Lindo. All those in favor signify by saying aye. [1:33:55] Aye. [1:33:56] Nays? [1:33:56] Hearing none, motion is approved. [1:33:58] And then with regards to our, [1:34:01] when we took public comment, correct? [1:34:03] Yes. [1:34:03] Great, thank you. [1:34:04] With regards to regular business action items, [1:34:07] I know that we want to be able to remove item B [1:34:11] and hear that at a future commission date. [1:34:13] So currently, we will only be hearing [1:34:15] for regular business action items item number A, 10A, [1:34:19] and item number 10C. [1:34:22] If we could go ahead and move forward with item A, please. [1:34:25] That is the resolution approving and authorizing the Chief Executive Officer of the Housing [1:34:30] Authority of the City and County of San Francisco to adopt the authority's publicly available [1:34:34] pay schedule effective December 1, 2024 pursuant to the Public Employees Retirement Law, Public [1:34:39] Employees Pension Reform Act of 2013 and Title II of the California Code of Regulations. [1:34:45] And this will be presented by a general counsel, Linda Mason. [1:34:49] This resolution is a routine item as required by the circular letter 200-003-20 issued on [1:34:56] January 8, 2020 and as Bennett just mentioned also the Public Employees Retirement Law, [1:35:02] Public Employees Pension Reform Act and Title II of the California Code of Regulations. [1:35:06] The requirements state that within the staff report the regulations have been met. [1:35:12] You are not approving any changes to salary, I just want to make that really clear. [1:35:15] you're approving the adoption of this pay scale for the 2025 year effective December 1st 2024 [1:35:22] and it just means that we'll be able to go ahead and post this and upload it to the CalPERS website [1:35:27] with that said we hope that this would be approved and honestly if it had gone to committee if we [1:35:32] had a committee meeting this meeting it probably would have been recommended for consent so thank [1:35:36] you commissioners and if you have any questions feel free to ask thank you if [1:35:44] there's no [1:35:44] commissioner comment we can open for public comment on item number 10a any public comments [1:35:48] specifically for item number 10a. I just have to public comment about the work I'm [1:35:55] doing with the Homeless Oversight Commission and the other office is [1:36:00] streamlining the vacancies and making it the fair house and we're aware of the [1:36:04] fair housing requirements so we're also making it easier how to streamline this. [1:36:10] Thank you. [1:36:13] Any other public comment for item number 10a? [1:36:22] Mr. Williams just want [1:36:24] reiterate this is specifically for item 10A. [1:36:32] No problem, you sound a little [1:36:33] perturbed. Thank you. I'm just looking for any opportunities. I'm a real estate [1:36:38] micro real estate developer and usually in the RFPs the pre qualifications make [1:36:44] it almost impossible for us to get a foot into already closed door. So please [1:36:50] be mindful of the wording. We should have carved out sections and join venture [1:36:54] opportunity. The same is with our RP capital improvements. Project manager was supposed [1:37:02] to be one of the things but for some reason the housing authority continues to give it to themselves. [1:37:07] For Williams this item your public comment is do you have anything to say about the [1:37:12] CalPERS letter that the commission is being asked to approve? [1:37:19] Oh yes as long as they're giving opportunities yes to all in the city. [1:37:24] Yes, and I approve. I mean, I hope you guys approve it. [1:37:28] Thank you. Like I said, the authority uses their own, like Mr. Moreno de Latour. [1:37:33] So I can't get on the RFPs. The position was already taken, which is kind of mysterious and crazy, but thank you. [1:37:41] Great. Thank you so much. Any additional public comment on this item? [1:37:47] Not seeing any. We can open for a motion to approve. [1:37:50] Do we have a motion? [1:37:50] Motion to approve. [1:37:52] And a second. [1:37:54] I'll second. [1:37:55] All right. [1:37:55] We have a first from Commissioner Pies in a second. [1:37:57] And once again from Commissioner Lindo, [1:37:59] all those in favor signify by saying aye. [1:38:01] Aye. [1:38:02] Ayes. [1:38:02] Hearing none, motion is approved. [1:38:06] Item C, please. [1:38:07] Yep. [1:38:08] Item 10C, that is the resolution of approving and authorizing [1:38:10] the chief executive officer to amend the agreement to enter [1:38:13] into a project-based voucher housing assistant payment contract [1:38:16] with the Tenderloin Neighborhood Development Corporation [1:38:18] to increase the number of project-based vouchers from 12. [1:38:20] project-based vouchers to 20 project-based vouchers units at 4200 [1:38:25] Geary for a total not to exceed 20 project-based vouchers and this will be [1:38:29] presented by our housing operations director Kendra Crawford. Good morning [1:38:33] commissioners. The housing authority of the City and County of San [1:38:42] Francisco received a non-competitive request to project-based 12 units at a [1:38:50] The PVV vouchers were awarded in March 2022, and AHAB was executed in 2023. [1:38:58] We have recently received a request to add an additional eight PVVs to the project, which [1:39:06] would total 20 units for senior, formerly homeless veterans. [1:39:16] Thank you so much, Kendra. [1:39:18] I'm sorry. [1:39:18] It was requested from TNDC, the mayor's office, and HUD VASH. [1:39:23] Great. [1:39:23] Thank you so much. Just in relationship to the report that we heard earlier from finance [1:39:27] and the impact on voucher distribution, these items are currently budgeted outside of that [1:39:32] issue, correct? [1:39:34] That is correct. [1:39:34] Great. And then, secondarily, just to spend some time, when we start hearing these [1:39:41] items around voucher management and voucher distribution, I think it might be useful [1:39:45] for us as a commission to start hearing around the timelines associated with the [1:39:51] allocation of those vouchers, separate from the AHAP itself and the actual HAP, the actual [1:39:56] rate at which the vouchers are applied to the project, the processes they're in, just to [1:40:01] start going through the metrics of operational improvements that we may want to make so we [1:40:06] can hold ourselves accountable to timelines, process, and so forth. [1:40:12] But nothing further right now with regards to the item as is for me. [1:40:15] I don't know if any other commissioners have comments or questions with regards [1:40:18] to this. [1:40:19] It's just once again supporting veteran homeless housing priorities that the city has, bringing [1:40:25] people who are off of the streets into permanent supportive housing with associated subsidies. [1:40:30] It's another great effort that our city is making to ensure that we're taking people [1:40:34] off the streets and providing the subsidies to do so because the city and the housing [1:40:39] authority are making use of the incredible resource that it can and is being brought [1:40:43] to bear to support this initiative. [1:40:46] Thank you. And to answer some of your questions, so construction on the site started in spring 2023. [1:40:52] And the move-ins will start, we will execute a HAP contract, and the move-ins will start beginning in the early 2025. [1:41:00] Great. Thank you so much. [1:41:02] Thank you. [1:41:03] All right. Fantastic. [1:41:06] Thank you, Kendra. If there's no additional commissioner's comment, we can open for public comment, item 10C specifically. [1:41:15] I'm not seeing any. We can close public comment and ask for a motion for approval [1:41:20] And a second we do a roll call vote commissioner nara pikes [1:41:26] Commissioner Kim [1:41:28] I and president Torres I [1:41:33] Point of order Bennett do we need to go back and do any roll call votes in the previous items that were approved? [1:41:40] I would defer to general counsel if we have a specific ruling as far as roll call vote versus unanimous eyes as far as [1:41:47] approving action items? Is there? No, I think we're okay. It's when you have one [1:41:51] member that's out and you can't do that because there's only four of you for [1:41:54] quorum, but if one was remote, let's say we had five, then you'd have to do [1:41:59] a roll call. Got it. But all of us are in the house today. All right, great. Thank [1:42:03] you. Uh-huh. Before we move to item 12 for closed session, I want to address [1:42:09] item number 11 for any additional commissioner's comment or report. [1:42:18] Any [1:42:19] You may reserve the right to make additional commissioners comment and report after we return [1:42:23] from closed session. [1:42:24] If we may move to closed session. [1:42:26] Yes. [1:42:27] This closed session is for public employee performance evaluation, government code 54957, chief executive [1:42:33] officer. [1:42:35] Just some logistics here. [1:42:36] For those in the room, we'll ask those that are not applicable to this item to [1:42:42] remove from the room. [1:42:44] And then those online, we will be ending the Zoom webinar. [1:42:46] However, if you rejoin the same meeting link, you will be placed in a waiting room [1:42:50] for the resumption of the commission meeting after closed session ends. [1:43:00] With that being said, we will be going into closed session. [1:43:02] Thank you. [2:14:37] Let's go. [2:15:19] State of GOV.TV. San Francisco government television. [2:30:43] Francisco government television. [2:47:57] It's out there. But I would show up. [2:48:04] And that was in regards to the city attorney memo that we were briefed on today. [2:48:08] Yeah. [2:48:09] All right. All right. Thank you so much for your patience. We have just returned from closed session with nothing to report on. [2:48:16] But I want to thank everyone and wishing everyone a very happy, happy Thanksgiving and holiday season. [2:48:23] Stay safe out there. Stay dry. And we will see you in December. [2:48:28] Time is 12.03 p.m., thank you.