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Okay, good afternoon. This meeting is now convened at 104 PM, like to ask everyone to please silence all cell phones.

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Quorum of the board members is present in the board auditorium.

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Let's see our first order of business is to hear from speakers to the agenda.

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Public comment during school board meetings will only be available to those persons who have signed up to speak prior to the meeting time.

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current protocol, verbal and other disruptions by persons during school board meetings are

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We have 14 speakers signed up today who will be limited to two minutes each per board policy.

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We ask that you stay on topic and refrain from naming individuals, especially students, as our identities protected under the law, but you may name your own child.

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I ask you to please respect our procedures and the other speakers and your comments properly when your time is expired and the time of ranks.

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We will first hear from in person speakers, followed by speakers who are on Zoom and person speakers, please come to the microphone in your number order.

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please state your full name before you, your remarks.

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Smith, are you going to call folks?

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Yes, speakers one, three, six, please state your name

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before you head the podium and then begin.

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Dear members of the HRSD Board of Managers,

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I'm speaking to you as a deeply concerned member

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of the middle college high school

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at the ULX Project Community

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regarding the devastating budget cuts

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proposed for the 2025-2026 school year.

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Our campus serves a unique invite

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population of 130 students, 99% of whom identify as Hispanic.

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As an early college high school with all alternative education and accountability provisions

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our program is specifically designed to serve students for whom the traditional high school

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setting was not effective or accessible.

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Many of our students are on track to graduate but face life circumstances that require more

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flexible and supportive environment to thrive.

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Others are underserved youth who may not have never accessed college without the personalized

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support we offer to spite operating with minimal resources or staff and students have

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to achieve a remarkable outcomes, a 94% graduation rate, a 94% attendance rate, 97% graduation

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rate, 97% college readiness rate, 93.2% students are earning an approved industry-based

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certification, 85% students enrolled in one or more college courses, academic growth, and

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star EOC scores that consistently exceed state averages across all course subjects. We operate

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with only three office staff members in an administrative system, a red soar in an account

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are teaching staffs to provide just eight teachers, each responsible for at least three plus.

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For you, perhaps, plus a credit recovery course, and we receive only one planning period

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every other day.

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This already got to say that it will models about to worsen, we've informed the duty of the

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coming budget cuts.

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Our registrar for this will be eliminated.

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The planning is to combine the rules of registrar and councilor, but this is not feasible.

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Our councilor is new to the role, and has no experience as a registrar.

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Asking them to perform both jobs would not only be unreasonable, but we directly jeopardize

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the stability of our camera campus.

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The alternative that was discussing turning in two teacher positions is equally unthinkable.

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With only eight teachers carrying a full-out already, we cannot lose anyone without sacrificing

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the quality and breadth of instructions we provide to our students.

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We employ the rest of the small school in high school environments so that we make people

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retrorimentator-current staff and levels.

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Doing so will allow us to continue developing the high-quality personalised education that

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our students don't only observe but have come to rely on.

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For our kids more than just a school that's placed a second chances of transformation throughout

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the police.

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Thank you.

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My name is Judy Chene, I'm a parent and a taxpayer.

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I believe everyone in this room has a responsibility

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in short that every student in the true district has a chance to succeed.

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When you don't fund the mandate of salary increase

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and when you cut campus budget, you're directly impacting the cultural learning.

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Let me be clear, this cuts are not due to declining attendance,

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but rather because the PUA is lower than previous years.

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In fact, the PUA is an all-time low.

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So what happens when standardized test score in court subject dominate the

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With the limited budget principles of force to cut what makes school meaningful, the four languages, fine arts, and athletics.

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As I'll go to a salary HIT enrollment decline by stripping schools, their programs, and reducing them to core only test prep centers.

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And here's a question to all to ask, that why is money not following the students? 80% of HIT students are economically disadvantaged.

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They're needs some change just because they switch campuses, but somehow the funding allocated

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precedence very drastically from school to school, and what about the stay high school

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alignment?

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Why isn't the funding going directly to school to support students as designed by law?

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Cutting campus budget means cutting programs and staff, and that means cutting into the heart

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of what helps students grow and learn.

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If we want to increase enrollment, we must start following a human capital, because of those

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in the building, our teachers, counselor, and staff, they make or break a school.

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I'm asking you to make meaningful changes, focus on the real learning, give our school,

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the resources they need to be excellent, not just adequate.

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Media accuracy is not acceptable, not to our students, not for city.

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I know that this decision ahead, not easy, but I also know was at stake the feature of our students and I hold you to a high standard because they deserve nothing less.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Good afternoon.

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I'm for Gorgoria.

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Per usual as I was driving over here.

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I tried to put myself in your shoes and

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I would think if I was sitting up there with you all.

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One of the things that went through my head as I drove over here today

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is some of the rhetoric that Mike Miles has said recently in the press, things like, there

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is no superintendent that could make the achievements I've made or things that Jim Terry

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and I are the only ones who can save this HISD budget.

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I've served on boards before and if that was a statement made towards me, that is something

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that would have given me great pause and question, so I just wanted to bring that up and

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And additionally, much like Judy, I also share big concerns about high school budgets

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and the PUA and money not following the students.

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I'm very concerned that we're robbing Peter to pay Paul and I am concerned that any

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yes continues to be unsustainable and not a good fiscal investment considering the decline

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and enrollment.

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And then additionally, I wanted to share concerns I have about the test prep culture in HRSD.

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At some NES schools, I learned recently.

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Students who are Vanguard and GT are allowed to enjoy recess.

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While those who are not are doing certain lessons during recess, parents have complained repeatedly,

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and they have not had any success in getting the 30 minute recess time for their children.

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that's unfortunate.

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You know, I know Superintendent Miles talks about how he semis recessed to receive speech services

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and it was really beneficial to him.

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A computer program just repeatedly repeatedly repeatedly is not a benefit.

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It's not what I could see.

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Good luck today.

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Thank you.

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I see.

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This is someone else's.

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Brooke did not bring a computer with her.

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So under loan star governments,

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you're expected to defer to the superintendent on matters of policy so long as there are measurable

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results showing progress and the problem is God bless you all. You are intelligent people. You are

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about as qualified to judge that as I am to sit on the board of the Federal Reserve. You don't

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know what questions to ask. You don't know what is considered valid data. So what you've been told

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over and over is that the district is making this great improvement because look at the 23 to 24

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change. Well, anybody, everybody in the academic world who has any integrity knows that the 23

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scores were an anomaly. They were not valid because there was such a drastic change to the

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test, both in the format and in the content everything bombed. If you want to look at the last

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and guess what?

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So far none of you have asked for that that I have seen.

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Guess what, here's the chart.

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Here's 2018, here's 2019, here's 2024.

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It is a through C-rated school, and the orange is DNF. It's identical. There's no change. So what have we gotten for that? Well, in fact, also half of the NES schools did better in either 18 or 19 that they did in 2014.

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So what have we got? We got a ballooning debt. We've got hemorrhaging enrollment, especially the NES campuses. We got no libraries. We got no wraparound service providers. We have now done the thing that you said, Mr. Campo, you knew was bad, which was too bad.

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silo, those services. We have closed campuses and there's a dramatic increase in DAAP placement,

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which is the school to prison pipeline. Everything that is evidence-based, which means

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it has been published in peer review journals, says, relationships are what make education work

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and everything that this administration is doing.

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Thank you.

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Good afternoon. I'm Kelly Blickray,

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parent. You have to take care of people first. That's what you, Mr. Campo, told the

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Kinder Institute just this month. But now you're doing the opposite. Last year

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this district had hundreds of wrap-around specialists embedded in schools, trusted

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adults who noticed when a student needed food or clothes or mental health care

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without waiting for someone to ask. This year just 44 remain and now even those

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roles are being eliminated.

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The plan, push that work on the campus staff,

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already stretched thin, or redirect families

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to sunrise centers.

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The one closest to my son's school is 18 miles away.

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Meanwhile, families are expected to scan a QR code

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from a sign posted outside the school.

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It's an English, maybe Spanish.

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HISD has students who speak over 100 languages.

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These signs are barriers, not bridges.

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They exclude our most vulnerable immigrant families, families without internet, families who don't want to ask for help from a sidewalk.

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Rapparone specialists didn't need a form to see a hungry kid.

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They didn't need a QR code to know when a student needed shoes or a safe place to sleep.

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They were there every day on campus.

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Yours is not a plan that centers students.

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It's a system that shifts the burden away from the district and onto families least equipped to carry it.

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Those who already are facing food insecurity, language barriers, job instability, or housing loss.

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This isn't neglect dressed up as efficiency.

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You say you want to put people first, then do it. Please stop outsourcing compassion.

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Stop deflecting responsibility. Bring reprosed round specialists back to our school. Thanks.

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Thank you.

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Any other in-person speakers?

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we'll move to Zoom.

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Dr. Benzone, you may begin.

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Thank you.

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Hi.

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Today I'm here to speak about the central goal of wrap-around services and our schools.

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Support that have been strategically dismantled by system claiming to value equity while abandoning

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the students who meet at most.

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In 2019 to 2020, HIV disease wrapped around specialists completed over 622,000 interventions,

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reaching over 75% of the targeted student population.

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Notably, students at risk of dropping out who receive these services were seven times more likely to meet grade level standards in math and five times more likely in reading.

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In June 2024, the HNSD board approved a $2.1 billion budget despite a $528 million shortfall.

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One third of it was funneled into miles' new education system. A model that offers high salaries for compliance, not creativity.

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This isn't empowerment, it's control. Meanwhile, HISD cut over 210 wraparound specialists

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and slashed $14 million from the department's budget. The 48 remaining specials have

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to split time among 5 to 10 campuses each. They were stretched and set up to fail.

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Now miles has sunrise centers as community helps for support. In theory, they could offer partnerships

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and opportunities and integrated services, but in practice they feel more like a photo

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up in a real solution. The truth is that families working multiple jobs or without reliable

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transportation can't access distant hubs during business hours. Equity means meeting families.

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Where they are. We need wrap-around services in schools, not centralized in eight hubs across 333 square miles. A flashing program that only works for the few is not equity. It's performance. And we all know that miles likes his performances. We must stop funding bonuses ranging from $40,000 to $140,000 for district executives and start investing in the students and communities we serve. We are not here to enrich demagogues. We are here to educate children with dignity, care and justice.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Robert Van Borsum, you may begin.

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Good afternoon.

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Board of Superintendents Miles.

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I'm speaking here today to ask you to reconsider the priority of your current budget.

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I believe that there is a much better use piece for a lot of the money that is being pulled back and reallipied.

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To really improve the outcomes of the children in HIV.

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the fact that non-anything as schools are being penalized,

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yes schools are showing severe flood, is a poor, it is non-sensical,

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and the current budget needs to reflect that non-anything as schools

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are achieving better outcomes than having more students,

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stick them out. I know several people personally who are doing the same thing right now

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looking for non-anything as schools options within the district,

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so I do believe that the current budget as proposed is a poor

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is that a front and needs to be strongly reconsidered with that. I'll be able to rest in my

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life. Thank you.

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Christine Hurley, please unmute yourself you may begin.

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Hi.

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I've asked time I speak before you. I wonder what message will

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finally get you to listen? What words will finally get through to you? You've been provided

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with data, research, mountains, a verifiable facts. Yet you continue to have the arrogance

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that you, not the experts, know what's best, or what you claim it's that we, non-born members,

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who don't understand the full picture. In which case, it's still a lack on your heart,

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a lack of transparency.

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However, we at this point of a crisis, and you still will fully choose to

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remain blind to it. In the board Q&A, you admit that enrollment is in a free fall. Spending

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millions on age I have seen now is not going to help enrollment or student outcomes.

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Spending a million on a new teacher evaluation system that's widely criticized by experts

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is not going to help enrollment or student outcomes.

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Spending money on increased salaries for uncertified teachers is not going to help enrollment

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or student outcomes.

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Spending hundreds of thousands in bonuses and salaries for harmful administrators is not

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going to help enrollment or student outcomes.

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You know what would be money well spent, libraries, which I'm sure you're sick of hearing about,

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but you continue to disregard their importance for other emphasizing your unsuitability for your positions.

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You don't ask questions seeking to understand. You assume you know best to the vast detriment of our schools.

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I will never forgive you for the decimation of our campus. We're planning on leaving our NES campus because any of us sucks.

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But now we're terrified that with these astronaut budget cuts you're planning are not any

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as school choice will lose their library because very few campuses are supported by a

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well-being of PTO to sustain these budget deficits. I sincerely hope you all trip over

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a spin bike because I'll never forgive you the egregious waste of money on those either.

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At any point you can course correct but I doubt that I hope you're wrong.

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Thank you.

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I'm here to express deep concern over the decision to come and buy it on wrap around services within our schools.

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A move that significantly impacts our students will being an academic success.

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Currently, approximately 80% of HIC students are considered economically disadvantaged.

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These students often face challenges beyond the classroom, including food insecurity, housing instability, and limited access to medical and mental health care.

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Rappers services have been instrumental in addressing these issues providing essential support

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that enable students to focus on learning.

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We all know a hungry child doesn't learn well.

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Child that doesn't know where their speech night or when they might have clean clothes

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again is a distracted child in the classroom.

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Assuming these children and their families can make it to a sunrise center on their own is Miss Guy.

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Language barriers, distance, and potential work conflicts make these resources unattainable for the most vulnerable in our community.

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The consequences of these cuts are tangible. Chronic FCTism has become a significant obstacle to student success, with many students missing 10% or more of the school year.

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Without adequate support, students facing personal hardships or more likely to disengage, leading a lower academic performance and higher dropout rates.

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I urge the Board to prioritize the restoration of RAPRAM services and

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divest for vanity projects such as HIC now.

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The one thing might miles an eye to green on is keeping our tax dollars as close to the classroom

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and students as possible.

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Investing in the whole child is essential for ensuring every child has the opportunity to succeed.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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No more speakers on Zoom?

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Okay, is any other speakers come in or okay, great.

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That concludes our hearing as speakers through gender items will now conduct the hearing's schedule for this meeting.

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Okay, our first hearing is a procedure to consider this resolution of Stacey Capeski, level 3, dispute hearing.

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Proposites mean hearing involves complaints against district employees are to be held in closed session,

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unless the employee who is subject to the hearing request, request an open hearing.

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If both parties request an open session during the course of this hearing, the board may go to closed session

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to consult with an it's attorney under the terms of Texas government code section 551 dot 071.

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If any board member wishes to seek advice, Council, please make the request to me.

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For the record, Hector Morellis will, with the Texas Support personnel, employees,

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local one, representing Stacey Compeski and Stacey is a present.

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Eliza Phillips with Monti Ramirez Law representing the administration as president and

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Natasha Woods, H-I-I-C, the General Council is also present.

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Mr. Narella, would you continue an open session or a closed session?

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Open session?

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Open session?

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The issues before the school board are whether board policies and administrative procedures

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were correctly applied to the agreement and whether the administration has violated these

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policies or procedures.

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Ms. Capeski, since you asked for the board to hear this matter, your representative will

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proceed first. Mr. Morellis, you will be allowed to make a 10-minute presentation to the board

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followed by a 10-minute presentation by Ms. Phillips. Mr. Morellis, you may reserve part of your

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10 minutes for her bubble to matter is presented by as FIPs.

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You both sides will then be available for questions from the board after each presentation

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after the liberation of board will render its decision.

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Are there any questions about how this dispute resolution hearing will be conducted or

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very good?

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Mr. Morella, how would you like to divide your time making your presentation to the board

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and with six minutes and four minutes for a rebuttal?

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six minutes and four minutes. Okay, Mr. All of you may begin.

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Good afternoon, Mr. President. Board members, you come here today to discuss an unjustly

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termination that occurred in the attrition department.

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I've always said, and I've always argued in front of you when I've come in front of you,

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to weigh in only the exhibits that were presented.

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Only the transcripts that were presented to you.

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If you look at the exhibits,

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Ms. Capesky worked for the nutrition department as a coordinator too for over 15 years.

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The problem in the concern that arise is about a pay.

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She discussed her pay, follow this one if you could please, with her HR, with the director

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of operations, with the executive director, and also her senior executive director.

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She followed the whole China command regarding her pay.

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That is the reason and that is the purpose that we're here here.

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The administration and the district is trying to say that she was terminated for misconduct.

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But if you look at the exhibits and if you look at the testimony that was presented.

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You know where does it say that misconduct was conducted,

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prime example, if you look at Exhibit B, which

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is a very important exhibit for B? She was not terminated for presconduct with work.

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at Exhibit 5, we did an open records request under the Texas open records request. All the

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documentation that we requested for whatever reason the administration denied to give it to

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us.

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And it would show proof that Ms. Capeski followed every board policy that was outlined in

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HIV's need to show that she was doing her job the way she was entitled to do it.

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Secondly, if you look at Exhibit 11,

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she met with Mr. Lewis to discuss her pay.

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He is the Director of Operations.

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If you look at the other exhibit, she met with Ms. Betty Wiggins and Ms. Palmer, who

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it's the HR and the Senior Executive Director on 828-24, again, to discuss her pay.

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And the purpose that she was going to discuss her pay is if you look at exhibit 11, which

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is a very important exhibit, exhibit 21, which is a very important exhibit.

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The purpose and the reason that she discussed her pay is there was an individual who just got promoted and

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was just recently in that row

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making 20,000 a year

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and then miraculously

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received a $65,000 increase

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who just started working in that department

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That is the reason she was questioning why she only received a $2,000 increase when the new employee

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who just started in that row with no experience came from a cafeteria manager to a coordinator too

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received a $65,000 increase.

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I'm sure each and every one of you, if you were in your profession and you realize an employee that just started

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was making less than you, but received a $65,000 increase, would raise a concern and would raise

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an issue. And that's what she did. DGBA local or policy states that employee has the right

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to raise a concern about their wages. So somehow the nutrition services cannot justify how

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While my client only received a $2,000 increase, but the newly higher employee with no experience,

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no knowledge of that department, no knowledge of the work, went from making $20,000 a year

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to a $65,000 increase.

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Now the administration is going to argue, well this took place in this took place.

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So you want to recommend termination for misconduct about raising up a concern about her pay.

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And mind you, she followed the chain of command.

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She met with HR.

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She met with a director of operations.

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She met with the executive director.

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And she also met with the senior executive director.

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And she specifically stated,

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If I'm here to discuss about my pay and my concern, would there be any retaliation taken against me?

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Faith specifically said, absolutely not.

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We'll guess what happened a week later.

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She was called into employee relations, said we're here to discuss some concerns.

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She answered of truthfully, and a few days later, she was recommended for termination.

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So my question to you, and I argue to you today, what more policy did she violate to warrant

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determination?

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If it says under DGBA local, that you can raise a concern regarding your salaries at any

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time.

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And the good thing is, she followed the chain of command.

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She didn't go outside of the scope, she didn't go way above, she went step by step by step.

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And that's what you need to look at, and that is what I ask you, and I pray that you look at only to the exhibits that were presented to you, and also the documents that were presented to you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Fiffs.

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May I make your presentation to the board?

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Good afternoon, board members. Thank you all for being here today. My name is Alicia Phipps, and I am with Monten Rumeras law firm, and I represent HIC in this level 3 appeal. I do have a presentation for you today just to summarize and visualize our arguments today. You just give me one moment.

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We have heard today from Mr. Morrellas, Ms. Capeski's representative regarding why he believes she should be reinstated to a position as coordinator one.

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Yet, Ms. Capeski has not in cannot meet her burden of establishing that the level 1 and the level 2 hearing officers decided incorrectly.

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Today, I will be telling you why both the level 1 and level 2 hearing officers correctly decided to deny the grievance of her request to be reinstated.

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There were no reversible errors made by either of the hearing officers for this grievance

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and I will explain why.

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This case is very simple

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and is easily broken down into three key points.

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First, HISD rightfully terminated her employment for violating DH local.

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Second, this was not her first violation of DH local and she was previously warned.

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Third,

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Miss Capeski was an at-will employee in a non-contract position as a coordinator

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one. Therefore, she could be terminated for any reason or no reason. However, as I will

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discuss, HISD did have a good cause to terminate her.

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First, I will discuss the grievance

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violation of DH local. The evidence is clear that Miss Capeski engaged in conduct

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that violated DH local, which provides that every employee is responsible for relating to colleagues

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and supervisors with respect, courtesy, and in a professional manner. It also mandates that

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the work they be spent on work related activities rather than on personal business. The level

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two record is clear.

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Miska Peski's actions around contacting co-workers during and after work hours

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created an uncomfortable and unprofessional work environment for her colleagues in violation of DH local, which will be shown by statements that her colleagues submitted.

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From September 13 to September 16,

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Ms. Capeski was,

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sorry, from September 13 to September 16, 2024, before Ms. Capeski was ever investigated by employee relations.

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Several coordinator ones reported to their supervisors, they were contacted multiple times

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and during work hours to urge them to sign a petition regarding paid differentials

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and company vehicles, which was circulated by Ms. Capeski, along with Mr. Ernen Irigo

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and Ms. Felicia May's Corbin.

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That petition is available in the administration's exhibits exhibit for

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Donna Geys was one of the coordinator once who wrote her supervisor that the petition was attached and sent to Tasha Hicks on August 29, 2024.

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She stated in her email to her supervisors that I don't want to be pressured in deciding the petition.

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And she said that she felt pressured and she was contacted multiple times about the petition.

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Karen Roberts named Ms. Capeski as one of the driving coordinators out of the group of three that were contacting coordinators during the work hours, multiple times.

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We also have statements available in administration's exhibits for Shelby DeWitt and Curtis Johnson.

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Both reported that they did not want to be involved in the petition and did not want to be put in the middle.

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They had desire to remain neutral.

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Ms. Capeski's involvement is clear from her colleagues identifying her and from her email to Ms. Betty Wiggins, available at administrations exhibit nine. It was she referenced a petition requesting higher pay, rental cars and remote options. She also signed the email on behalf of the co-workers as a whole, despite the fact that, as you've seen by the statements, they did not all agree to be involved.

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And her email to Ms. Wiggins also referred to text messages between Ms. Capeski, Ms. May's

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Corbin, and others regarding the company car situation.

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And I have included on this slide a snippet from the statement that she made.

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According to Director Keith Lewis, it was after Ms. Kymig and Ms. Minin, two of his reports,

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each had two of their reports, coordinator ones,

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complain about feeling pressure to sign the petition

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that Mr. Lewis decided he needed to have HR,

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launching investigation.

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This decision was driven by concerns over the comfort

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of the employees in the workplace

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and integrity of the work culture.

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During the investigation,

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Ms. Capeski admitted to Browna Turner in employee relations

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that she, Mr. Urgo, and Ms. Mays Corbin,

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created the petition to encourage others to sign,

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and this is on this slide as a excerpt from her statement.

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Second, I will talk about the grievance prior DH local violation and the warning she received.

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On this slide, you see a prior letter of concern that she was issued on October 5, 2020, and the highlighted portions are the most relevant excerpts from her.

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the citation she received.

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Ms. Capeski's DH local violation that immediately preceded her October 2024 termination

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was at least her second violation of the same board policy. On October 5, 2020, Ms. Capeski's

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supervisor issued her a letter of concern for disrespectfully communicating with a colleague

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in violation of the same DH local provision.

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Third, and finally, I will discuss the at-will nature of Ms. Capeski's employment as a coordinator.

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One, Ms. Capeski was an at-will employee in a non-contract position as stated in her personnel file.

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And you can see on this slide, this is a letter regarding her termination, and she is identified as a non-contract at-will employee pursuant to DCD local.

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so, pursuant to DCD local, she could be terminated for any reason or no reason.

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However, as I showed earlier, HISD did not terminate Ms. HISD, did terminate Ms. Capeski

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for good cause, which was her violation of DH local, not once but at least twice.

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She was warned that disciplinary action could follow, but still engaged in conduct of violated

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the policy.

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This is why HISD terminated her on October 2, 2024, and Mr. Morales arguments that she was unjustly

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terminated given the alleged misconduct of others is completely baseless and nothing more

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than a red herring to distract from the simple truth. The truth is that she broke board policy

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twice and was terminated for that. HISD did not need a reason to terminate her because of

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at Will Status, but HISD did provide a reason which is well documented and presented in the record

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before you today. As an overview,

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I have talked about why the level 1 and level 2 decision

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to deny Rense Statement Mustang. One, I have discussed how HISD terminated her for good cause

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due to her violation of DH local and reviewed the evidence which proves this. Two, I have shown

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she had a pattern of breaking the same rule and was worn previously by her supervisor.

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And lastly, I have reiterated that Ms. Capeski wasn't at will employing and therefore

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could be terminated for any legal reason or no reason. Yet the record before you proves

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H.I.S.D. was justified in terminating her as a repeat violator of D.H. local.

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Therefore H.I.S.D. respectfully request that you uphold both the level one and level

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decisions and, again, deny the grievance renal.

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Thank you for hearing my presentation, and I look forward to any questions you may.

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Thank you. Mr. Morellus, you have four minutes remaining?

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Trying to be very professional and I get upset like I did last time.

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So my concern to you is, when someone is fabricating something, I believe they should back it up.

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Prime example, the administration talks about the employees who are being, for whatever, threatened by my client.

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00:40:36,500 --> 00:40:40,720
But if you look at exhibit eight, which is a very important exhibit, as she stated, carrying Roberts,

439
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,220
let me read what she says.

440
00:40:43,060 --> 00:40:45,320
Three coordinators are Stacey Gampeski.

441
00:40:45,460 --> 00:40:49,520
I never spoke to her about a petition.

442
00:40:50,820 --> 00:40:57,820
These are the statements that were given by the administration from the employees that alleged

443
00:40:57,820 --> 00:41:01,980
that she was the corporate and she took place in what occurred.

444
00:41:02,140 --> 00:41:05,260
That's one statement right now, exhibit eight.

445
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,780
She stated that the employees were scared of Ms. Capeski.

446
00:41:09,980 --> 00:41:12,320
You have one employee on the record.

447
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:14,660
She'd ever spoke to Ms. Capeski.

448
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,340
If you look at exhibit seven, again,

449
00:41:17,500 --> 00:41:19,040
this is the administration's exhibit.

450
00:41:19,940 --> 00:41:23,700
Again, Mr. Curtis Johnson, I'll read what he says.

451
00:41:23,860 --> 00:41:24,800
I wrote his supervisor.

452
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,380
I wasn't going to sign a petition because of how far

453
00:41:27,380 --> 00:41:33,500
have come as a unified front. I talked to her not about the progress and changes that have been made

454
00:41:33,500 --> 00:41:40,140
already with coordinators. Again, nothing happens overnight. Never do they mention Ms. Capeski's

455
00:41:40,140 --> 00:41:49,160
name at all. Let's look at Ms. Shelby to win. Exhibit 5. Road her to our please consider my desire to

456
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:54,600
remain neutral with all the information above. I do not want to be put in the middle of anything.

457
00:41:54,600 --> 00:42:02,040
that's exhibit five. Again, the administration's exhibit. Where does it mention Meska pesky's

458
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:09,880
name, nowhere? On any of the exhibits that the administration admitted to you,

459
00:42:13,190 --> 00:42:13,630
the administration

460
00:42:13,630 --> 00:42:18,550
has always argued that their act will employees, and I'm always on the record. They're

461
00:42:18,550 --> 00:42:24,210
not slaves. More policy says you have the right to follow the grievance regarding your

462
00:42:24,210 --> 00:42:30,770
They unjustly terminated, I don't know why they continue are you in that that they're in

463
00:42:30,770 --> 00:42:32,890
that will employ you.

464
00:42:33,250 --> 00:42:38,190
But under board policy, if an employee feels they're unjustly terminated, they have the right

465
00:42:38,190 --> 00:42:39,110
to follow grievance.

466
00:42:39,370 --> 00:42:42,430
If it's has to do with pay, they have the right to follow grievance.

467
00:42:43,050 --> 00:42:44,490
And that's what Ms. Kepeski did.

468
00:42:44,770 --> 00:42:47,490
She exercised her rights under DGBA.

469
00:42:47,850 --> 00:42:49,910
And that is the purpose and the reason that we're here.

470
00:42:49,910 --> 00:42:57,770
The administration has not given you sufficient enough evidence to warrant the termination.

471
00:42:58,590 --> 00:43:01,730
I ask you, please weigh in only to the exhibit.

472
00:43:01,970 --> 00:43:08,450
What I just read to you does it implicate my client at all, at all, and she said,

473
00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:15,430
it did, but I just read to you the employee statements that the administration used as exhibits.

474
00:43:15,430 --> 00:43:18,710
And it says, one of them says, I never talked to Ms. Kepeski.

475
00:43:20,090 --> 00:43:22,130
One of them says, I never mentioned Ms. Kepeski.

476
00:43:23,110 --> 00:43:26,630
So how in the world can you uphold something

477
00:43:27,470 --> 00:43:31,210
that employees who entered as a statements and exhibits

478
00:43:31,210 --> 00:43:34,750
from the administration never implicates my client?

479
00:43:35,450 --> 00:43:38,770
I ask you to please, and I'm begging you please,

480
00:43:39,350 --> 00:43:42,350
weigh in only to the exhibits and the statements,

481
00:43:42,350 --> 00:43:48,050
The statement's alone shows that my client didn't participate in this at all.

482
00:43:49,070 --> 00:43:50,910
Is there a witch hunt? Who knows?

483
00:43:52,980 --> 00:43:56,280
But also consider the reason why she spoke out freely.

484
00:43:57,860 --> 00:44:01,340
An individual came in at 20,000 and jumped to 65.

485
00:44:02,140 --> 00:44:03,980
That's the reason she spoke out.

486
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,600
That is the reason why she wants to be it correctly.

487
00:44:07,700 --> 00:44:12,640
In closing, I'm begging you, and I'm asking you to weigh in on the statements

488
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,320
And that are exhibits that we're presented to you today.

489
00:44:15,860 --> 00:44:17,320
Thank you for your time.

490
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:18,680
Thank you.

491
00:44:22,190 --> 00:44:23,970
The parties have completed their presentations.

492
00:44:23,970 --> 00:44:28,150
It's now time for the board members to make our decision on the issues before us.

493
00:44:28,390 --> 00:44:32,590
We must apply only the facts presented in the transcript to the applicable policy and

494
00:44:32,590 --> 00:44:34,370
or law and make a decision.

495
00:44:35,010 --> 00:44:40,470
If there's any dispute between Ms. Capeski and the administration as to what the

496
00:44:40,470 --> 00:44:44,130
policy or procedures mean, then is the board's responsibility to determine the

497
00:44:44,130 --> 00:44:47,030
or application of the policies and procedures.

498
00:44:47,470 --> 00:44:50,950
The record of the level two hearing must support any action we take.

499
00:44:51,270 --> 00:44:56,530
That is, if the record supports the position of the administration or the position,

500
00:44:56,530 --> 00:44:59,970
And this is Ms. Capeski, we...

501
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,380
May fine accordingly. Is there any discussion?

502
00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:12,910
Okay. As there need to go to close session? Anyone?

503
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:22,180
Okay.

504
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:30,260
I move that we deny all requests to relief not previously granted by the level two hearing officer and uphold the decision of the level two hearing officer.

505
00:45:34,290 --> 00:45:34,970
It's for a second.

506
00:45:37,910 --> 00:45:40,970
We have a motion in the second member's please vote.

507
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,920
Motion passes. 5, 4. Thank you.

508
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:13,400
A letter or no, if I'm both party selection of this board shall be prepared and signed by the Executive Director of the Board of Relations, as soon as possible, this hearing is concluded at 150pm.

509
00:46:17,340 --> 00:46:17,640
What's that?

510
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:23,580
Yes.

511
00:46:24,940 --> 00:46:25,420
Okay.

512
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,700
We're going to take a quick brief.

513
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:51,500
Okay.

514
00:46:52,620 --> 00:46:53,100
We're going to take a quick brief.

515
00:46:53,100 --> 00:46:53,120
We're going to take a brief brief.

516
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,460
We're going to take a brief brief.

517
00:46:55,620 --> 00:47:00,240
We're going to

518
00:48:07,670 --> 00:48:07,910
take a brief brief.

519
00:48:08,810 --> 00:48:10,130
We're going to take a brief brief.

520
00:48:10,130 --> 00:48:10,210
Okay.

521
00:48:10,210 --> 00:48:17,590
Yes, I can go ahead. We're not back yet. Okay, we're back in session at 152 p.m.

522
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,400
Do we have the other group here?

523
00:48:42,010 --> 00:48:45,270
Hard to start if we don't have another party, right? I agree with it.

524
00:48:56,730 --> 00:48:56,730
Okay,

525
00:49:02,860 --> 00:49:03,140
okay?

526
00:49:09,380 --> 00:49:11,480
She was here earlier. I'm sorry. I felt my mic was on.

527
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:13,380
Oh, I outside.

528
00:49:34,470 --> 00:49:36,210
She actually just walked out of the room apparently.

529
00:51:13,070 --> 00:51:17,970
Okay, well, let's go ahead and we have some procedural things we have to do before we start, okay?

530
00:51:18,670 --> 00:51:27,450
The purpose of this meeting is to consider the dispute filed by Turingness Shields, a special education research

531
00:51:27,450 --> 00:51:32,950
development chair at Breyer Grove Elementary School. Complaints against the district employees are to be health and

532
00:51:32,950 --> 00:51:38,210
closed session and less employee who is subject to hearing, request and open hearing.

533
00:51:38,210 --> 00:51:54,610
If both parties request an open session during the course of this hearing, the board will go into closed session to consult with the attorney in terms of the Texas government code section 551.071, if any board member wishes to seek advice for Council, please make this request down to me.

534
00:51:54,610 --> 00:52:01,370
For the record, Ms. Shields is present, Corey Rush, with Spalding, Nichols, Lampus

535
00:52:01,370 --> 00:52:06,410
and Lingos represents the administration as present, Katasha Woods, HST General Council's

536
00:52:06,410 --> 00:52:10,710
also present. Ms. Shields, do you wish to have an open or closed session?

537
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,100
It can be open, it's fine.

538
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,360
Open is, open is what you choose, that's fine.

539
00:52:20,580 --> 00:52:21,240
Thank you.

540
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:21,760
Okay.

541
00:52:25,170 --> 00:52:28,370
The issue for the school board is whether the board policy or administration

542
00:52:28,370 --> 00:52:32,590
and administration procedures were correctly applied to the grievance.

543
00:52:32,630 --> 00:52:35,410
And whether the administration has violated those policies or procedures.

544
00:52:36,250 --> 00:52:40,070
Michelle's, since you asked to ask the board,

545
00:52:40,290 --> 00:52:42,670
here this matter, you will proceed first.

546
00:52:42,950 --> 00:52:45,410
It will be allowed to make a ten-minute presentation of the board,

547
00:52:45,410 --> 00:52:47,810
followed by a ten-minute presentation by Mr. Rush.

548
00:52:48,270 --> 00:52:52,510
Michelle, you may reserve a part of your ten minutes for a battle

549
00:52:52,510 --> 00:52:54,690
to matters presented by Mr. Rush,

550
00:52:54,690 --> 00:52:59,330
both sides will be available for questions from the board after their respective presentations

551
00:52:59,890 --> 00:53:04,850
and after deliberation, the board will win to a decision. Are there any questions about

552
00:53:04,850 --> 00:53:10,270
how the dispute resolution hearing is going to be managed? You're good, okay?

553
00:53:11,890 --> 00:53:16,790
Michelle's, how would you like to divide your time making your presentation today to the board

554
00:53:16,790 --> 00:53:17,650
based on the transcript?

555
00:53:19,830 --> 00:53:23,970
You can say you can be up 10 minutes and you can split it between

556
00:53:23,970 --> 00:53:27,170
How do you want and then sort of make a rebuttal after?

557
00:53:27,470 --> 00:53:30,570
I would love the opportunity to explain it is.

558
00:53:30,970 --> 00:53:32,710
Great, so how'd you like to split it then?

559
00:53:34,030 --> 00:53:38,130
Three minutes first and the remainder of the time.

560
00:53:38,650 --> 00:53:40,670
Three minutes to start and seven for the remainder.

561
00:53:41,090 --> 00:53:41,730
You may begin.

562
00:53:42,290 --> 00:53:43,170
OK, thank you.

563
00:53:43,530 --> 00:53:45,010
Good afternoon, Board.

564
00:53:45,190 --> 00:53:47,030
Thank you for having me here today.

565
00:53:47,490 --> 00:53:49,230
My name is Torda Shields.

566
00:53:49,230 --> 00:53:59,310
a former employer or employee of HISD. I pulled the agenda last night and I saw that I'm

567
00:53:59,310 --> 00:54:06,830
listed as employee. I suppose that's procedural because I was an employee when I found the

568
00:54:06,830 --> 00:54:17,340
grievance in November of 2023. I had the level one hearing at the end of November. I was

569
00:54:17,340 --> 00:54:25,260
five with the response so I requested level two. The level two hearing was in February of 2024.

570
00:54:26,340 --> 00:54:36,320
I received the response from the hearing officer on February 21st and everything from level two

571
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:45,420
is in the transcript that you all should have received by now and so I received a certified letter

572
00:54:45,420 --> 00:54:57,760
Last week stating that we had all arguments have to be restricted to this transcript so I'm gonna do the best that I can to do so

573
00:55:00,270 --> 00:55:23,950
Everything that I listed as a concern that was in this grievance that I found was valid in the first, after the first, or the level one hearing, the hearing officer responded with mood for every single item that I request a resolve for.

574
00:55:23,950 --> 00:55:50,530
after the level two hearing, the hearing officer accepted the first and what really ended up being the bulk of my response or rather my complaint involving another coworker that I was concerned about and the administrations, my campus administrations, what I thought was failure to respond to my concern.

575
00:55:50,530 --> 00:56:00,170
So, I just went to point out that I didn't get the opportunity to have a

576
00:56:00,170 --> 00:56:09,130
rebel and the level two hearing and attorney rush, I believe,

577
00:56:11,170 --> 00:56:14,770
he commented about my

578
00:56:14,770 --> 00:56:21,850
including some students' names within documentation that I submitted for the

579
00:56:21,850 --> 00:56:27,910
grievance. If by chance I happen to be

580
00:56:27,910 --> 00:56:34,570
recommended for that, I do want to say that part of that information included some

581
00:56:34,570 --> 00:56:39,330
sheets that I received from my

582
00:56:39,330 --> 00:56:44,430
A praiser and the a praiser was the one who included still

583
00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:55,200
okay. Yeah, that's that's your three minutes. Mr. Rush you may make your presentation to the board based on the transcript

584
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,100
maybe again

585
00:57:00,300 --> 00:57:03,360
Good afternoon Mr. President and fellow trustees

586
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:05,500
I

587
00:57:06,270 --> 00:57:13,110
Suspect that after the three minute presentation. There may be some confusion as to what this this matter is about

588
00:57:13,110 --> 00:57:23,510
And there may even be confusion if you've gone through the level two transcript and the level two decision and there may be confusion if you've gone all the way back to level one about what this case is about.

589
00:57:23,710 --> 00:57:28,510
I'll confess to you that I think of myself as a fairly or reasonably smart person.

590
00:57:29,210 --> 00:57:34,670
I sat in the level two I argue level two and I still standing before you here today.

591
00:57:34,970 --> 00:57:41,250
Can't tell you with the greatest certainty in the world what it we're here complaining about.

592
00:57:41,250 --> 00:57:47,970
at level two, Ms. Shields was still an employee, so we were talking generally about some terms and conditions of her employment.

593
00:57:48,810 --> 00:57:52,170
And she disagreed with some spot observations she had.

594
00:57:52,530 --> 00:58:06,590
For example, in some memorandum she received, so for example, there was a contention that Ms. Shields was upset that she received a reprimand on the third day of school last school year for the 23-24 school year.

595
00:58:07,610 --> 00:58:11,930
somehow making that as improper or some unfair surprise.

596
00:58:13,050 --> 00:58:15,250
But in the record, you can see it in front of you.

597
00:58:17,050 --> 00:58:22,210
There's a, it's behind-have three on page 41.

598
00:58:22,330 --> 00:58:25,050
There's a text message conversation between the prior

599
00:58:25,050 --> 00:58:27,070
group elementary and administration of the shields,

600
00:58:27,790 --> 00:58:30,410
showing that the expectation, district-wide,

601
00:58:30,910 --> 00:58:33,330
was that instruction started day one,

602
00:58:33,950 --> 00:58:35,990
and there weren't going to be excuses for that.

603
00:58:35,990 --> 00:58:39,290
So when instruction did not go forward on day one,

604
00:58:39,590 --> 00:58:41,630
Ms. Shield received a valid write up.

605
00:58:41,710 --> 00:58:44,330
There was no surprise from that.

606
00:58:44,450 --> 00:58:46,590
When the Sunday before school starts,

607
00:58:46,870 --> 00:58:48,690
there's an actual in-riding conversation

608
00:58:50,870 --> 00:58:52,830
saying instructions are at day one.

609
00:58:52,890 --> 00:58:54,430
There's no confusion there.

610
00:58:55,590 --> 00:58:58,190
With spot observations, you can look through this record

611
00:58:58,190 --> 00:59:00,170
and they are behind tab three

612
00:59:00,170 --> 00:59:03,990
with the spot observations Ms. Shields received while she was employed.

613
00:59:03,990 --> 00:59:13,970
There's a lot of through-line consistencies about issues that we're going on in the classroom such as not hosting the objective for the day on the board.

614
00:59:14,570 --> 00:59:23,990
That as long as I've worked representing HISD, that's been an expectation that learning objectives are present in the classroom from Bell to Bell.

615
00:59:25,330 --> 00:59:28,990
There's a failure to submit lesson plans on time and some

616
00:59:29,590 --> 00:59:33,810
Alligation from a shield that was surprising that there was a deadline to submit lesson plans,

617
00:59:34,590 --> 00:59:38,030
but on page 40 of behind-tapped through page 40,

618
00:59:39,330 --> 00:59:43,090
is an excerpt from the campus' handbook last school year that dictates exactly when

619
00:59:43,690 --> 00:59:44,910
lesson plans are due.

620
00:59:45,790 --> 00:59:49,150
So when it comes to the job performance documentation,

621
00:59:49,150 --> 00:59:54,850
documentation, the loyalty record is very clear that Miss Shields was just held accountable

622
00:59:54,850 --> 00:59:59,150
as we would expect, I believe, at every one of our campuses that teachers are held accountable

623
00:59:59,150 --> 00:59:59,890
to do their job.

624
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,260
Accountable to do their jobs.

625
01:00:04,940 --> 01:00:09,860
But with Michelle's no longer being employed, I think that does, largely, to deal a little

626
01:00:09,860 --> 01:00:13,040
word from the lower level decisions that largely moves that part of the screen.

627
01:00:13,340 --> 01:00:16,820
But just so the record is clear, I wanted to highlight a few of those things.

628
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:23,220
The other thing we talked a lot about at the level two conference was the workload.

629
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:29,200
And I believe that I said this at level two, and I'll say it now because it's a core

630
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:36,260
truth for me, teachers are the hardest working people on this planet and have 90 jobs to

631
01:00:36,260 --> 01:00:36,840
one, right?

632
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:41,360
You know, that's common, I wish that we're different, we all wish that we're different.

633
01:00:42,860 --> 01:00:50,000
And Miss Shields was also on top of that, the Department Chair for Special Ed and at the

634
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:55,000
campus, and that comes with extra responsibilities, not to mention that just being a special

635
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,640
education teacher is a lot of work.

636
01:00:59,580 --> 01:01:02,880
There's so many requirements put on special education teachers

637
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:06,000
with paperwork and with art meetings and just

638
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:10,680
helping most importantly are students who need the most help.

639
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,000
They're most vulnerable population we have.

640
01:01:13,420 --> 01:01:17,150
So of course, to do anything other than acknowledge that

641
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,280
working as a special education teacher in public education

642
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:27,060
is not a hard job would be foolish, it's a hard job with a lot of work.

643
01:01:27,700 --> 01:01:36,140
What I will say is that the record reflects that the administration was very supportive

644
01:01:36,140 --> 01:01:43,680
and attempted to aid missiles and other special education professionals in getting the job

645
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,440
done and getting it done on time.

646
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:52,560
One thing about the IDEA and special education is that there are a lot of deadlines and those deadlines are very important

647
01:01:52,560 --> 01:02:00,740
We have very little time to waste and our meetings need to be efficient in order for our meetings to be efficient

648
01:02:00,740 --> 01:02:04,860
There needs to be quite a bit of pre-planning so you're not walking in ice cold

649
01:02:04,860 --> 01:02:09,420
And you're not learning as you go, which could end up disrupting the process

650
01:02:09,420 --> 01:02:14,060
but that's exactly what happened with Miss Shields as she came to at least one

651
01:02:14,060 --> 01:02:18,320
art meeting, seemingly unprepared, left at some point, came back and started asking

652
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,320
questions that the rest of the art committee had already moved on from.

653
01:02:21,780 --> 01:02:26,300
So the administration stepped in and this is on page 66 behind tap 3.

654
01:02:26,460 --> 01:02:32,300
This stepped in and advised Miss Shields that, sure, this is a lot of work, but you

655
01:02:32,300 --> 01:02:36,320
need to do some pre-planings and pre-preparation before art meetings to make sure

656
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:41,600
go efficiently and gave very detailed thorough and thoughtful instructions about how to accomplish

657
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:42,520
that.

658
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:51,020
And the campus also out of their own budget last year engaged a retire-re-hire e-paraprofessional

659
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:55,380
that was not from the Fed budget that was from the campuses budget I believe I'm correct

660
01:02:56,020 --> 01:03:02,640
in order to assist that department in getting up to compliance with special education requirements

661
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:06,200
as well as a paraprofessional from the special education department budget.

662
01:03:06,820 --> 01:03:10,600
So this was not a campus that was unsupportive of this special education department as a

663
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,040
whole or Miss Shields individually.

664
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:21,840
Finally, the big elephant in the room on this grievance is about this conversation that seemingly

665
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:27,380
happened between Miss Shields and one of our co-workers, where Miss Shields receive any

666
01:03:27,380 --> 01:03:28,960
text messages or throughout the record.

667
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:34,860
But they start on page 12 and go from many pages, they're after behind-tapped three, where

668
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:40,840
Michelle's got these text messages and believed that her co-worker might have been experiencing

669
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:47,380
some sort of mental health episode or being in distress out of respect for that person who

670
01:03:47,380 --> 01:03:48,480
was not here to talk for themselves.

671
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:49,500
I'm not going to mention the name.

672
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,760
I'm not going to go into the details of what distress may have been present.

673
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:59,740
The bottom line is, Michelle's did bring her concerns about this co-worker to the attention

674
01:03:59,740 --> 01:04:07,240
of her administrators, and they did the only thing that the administration can do,

675
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:12,140
or can rationally do, or can reasonably do, and can thoughtfully do, and they did a well

676
01:04:12,140 --> 01:04:12,520
fair check.

677
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,680
They called this particular employer and went to this particular employee, asked if she

678
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:20,560
was doing okay when she confirmed that everything's fine.

679
01:04:21,740 --> 01:04:23,700
That's, they took her word for it.

680
01:04:23,900 --> 01:04:27,380
That's all we can do is make sure that our people are okay,

681
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:31,620
offer help, offer, offer services, that's what they did.

682
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:35,260
And then they confirmed that we've reached out to this employee,

683
01:04:35,340 --> 01:04:42,600
confirmed that she's not having, or is saying that she's not having any sort of distress.

684
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:47,300
Is there anything else you need to tell us?

685
01:04:47,540 --> 01:04:49,380
And that's kind of where it stops.

686
01:04:49,380 --> 01:04:53,800
So I don't know what response Michelle's would have preferred in that situation.

687
01:04:54,780 --> 01:04:58,600
On a situation I understand that she seemingly was pulled into the middle.

688
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:14,600
But once she handed it off to the administration, frankly, that's no longer Michelle's business. And once the administration checked on the employee and confirmed to their satisfaction that the employee was actually doing okay and did not need any intervention.

689
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:21,920
It was frankly none of HRSD's business, what this woman was going through anymore. So I don't really know what we're here to fight about.

690
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:36,800
I do know that the level to record is replete with information that supports that HISD did not violate any policies or procedures or law with regard to anything

691
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:42,920
doing, having to do with Michelle's employment, last school year, and given Michelle's

692
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:47,140
ultimate termination from this district at the end of the school year last year,

693
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:54,300
the requested remedies in this case are plainly moved. So with that in mind, a high will hand back

694
01:05:54,300 --> 01:05:57,960
my of out minute remaining, and thank you very much for your attention. Thank you.

695
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:01,320
Miss Shields, you now have seven minutes.

696
01:06:03,220 --> 01:06:04,080
Thank you.

697
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:09,620
Thank you.

698
01:06:10,300 --> 01:06:13,640
So I want to

699
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:20,020
discuss some of the items that Tony Rush mentioned.

700
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:25,020
First, or they'll be in deeper to explain.

701
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:29,920
There was a retiree that was brought on to our campus.

702
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:39,800
under the guise of helping me become more familiarized with the special education system.

703
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:46,960
When she got there, it was not at the start of the school year.

704
01:06:47,740 --> 01:06:49,420
I'm sorry for me back up a little.

705
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:58,520
I was a new hire or return employee for HISD in August of 2023.

706
01:07:00,380 --> 01:07:09,120
When I got to the campus, there were urgent arts that were necessary, and that the district

707
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:15,700
had a strict mandate about those arts being hailed and completed before the first day of school.

708
01:07:16,660 --> 01:07:24,360
I had to go through two modules, two sets of modules in order to get certified to gain access

709
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:33,440
to their special education system and once I did, I had to pull student parents, name, contact

710
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:42,440
them, schedule the meetings, send out the invitations to everyone that would be a part of

711
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:53,000
the IEP committee and then hold or prepare the paperwork beforehand. When the meetings were

712
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:59,860
I had to facilitate the meetings as well as take minutes in the meeting.

713
01:08:00,980 --> 01:08:11,320
And so essentially I received a write-up because after that initial set of urgent hours

714
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:18,600
that had to be ready by day one, we had an additional three that had another deadline

715
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:21,000
in the second week of September.

716
01:08:24,420 --> 01:08:29,160
I, the first week of school was the last week of August.

717
01:08:29,500 --> 01:08:32,760
I believe the start date was August 28th of that year.

718
01:08:33,440 --> 01:08:39,680
We went into the weekend, came back at Tuesday after Labor Day,

719
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:44,400
and I was presented with my first memo or a write-up.

720
01:08:45,710 --> 01:08:55,850
And this was in regards to the urgent ours and being compliant with dates and all of this.

721
01:08:57,130 --> 01:09:02,850
I had shared with administration that I didn't know the system.

722
01:09:03,570 --> 01:09:06,630
They did hire someone who was supposed to come in.

723
01:09:06,630 --> 01:09:08,870
I wasn't asked familiar with the system.

724
01:09:09,690 --> 01:09:15,570
And that person that retiree was brought on at the end of September.

725
01:09:16,910 --> 01:09:25,770
Up until that time, I had sent the invitations and served as special education department here,

726
01:09:26,050 --> 01:09:30,090
and also served as students to the best of my ability.

727
01:09:32,290 --> 01:09:38,210
Another thing was the reason I had these two bands here.

728
01:09:38,210 --> 01:09:49,090
There was a lot of paperwork that carried over into my tenure when I arrived and these

729
01:09:49,090 --> 01:09:59,650
are two bins that I walked into my room and found that had zip ties to tie them down.

730
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:06,660
And when I cut the zip ties, they were filled with safe folders of kids, paperwork.

731
01:10:08,420 --> 01:10:12,520
And I had a massive amount of load on me, yes.

732
01:10:13,220 --> 01:10:21,860
And I also believe that that is part of the exhibit that was submitted in the level two hearing as well.

733
01:10:21,860 --> 01:10:31,200
You all will see folders and paperwork on a rug, where I placed sticky notes with alphabet

734
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:37,480
on them, and as I pull papers out, my attempt was to get them organized.

735
01:10:37,820 --> 01:10:42,820
We had students who no longer were in our district whose papers were inside of those

736
01:10:42,820 --> 01:10:43,200
bands.

737
01:10:43,780 --> 01:10:49,460
We also had students who were currently on our campus whose paperwork was inside of those

738
01:10:49,460 --> 01:10:49,840
bands.

739
01:10:50,260 --> 01:10:51,760
That was done before I got there.

740
01:10:53,140 --> 01:11:03,620
And so, needless to say, even though I saw this, I had or attempted to just take the

741
01:11:03,620 --> 01:11:09,000
deep breath, died in and tried to get this done, thinking I would have supported enough.

742
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:16,880
From campus administration, the principal Ms. Jones seemingly was supportive, however,

743
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:25,380
my praiser at the time, I'm assuming the assistant principal was not. She began writing me up

744
01:11:25,380 --> 01:11:34,200
and also given me low performance scores. What is not what was not mentioned by Attorney Rush.

745
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:43,260
Those performance scores, or rather, I'm sorry, the first day of school, I received a text message

746
01:11:43,260 --> 01:11:50,580
the Sunday before after having talked with Miss Niu about the first week and how the first

747
01:11:50,580 --> 01:11:58,320
week was going to go, which would be my going around introducing myself to students and then

748
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:07,080
going back to my class to get everything organized. I received the text message from her after completing

749
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:13,300
the urgent first-day arts that Friday before the first-day of school, I

750
01:12:13,300 --> 01:12:17,220
see the text message from her that Sunday, the day before school, and

751
01:12:17,220 --> 01:12:22,600
afternoon, saying, teaching will start from day one.

752
01:12:25,170 --> 01:12:27,330
So, after having talked

753
01:12:27,330 --> 01:12:34,030
with her and having had an agreement with her that I would go and introduce

754
01:12:34,030 --> 01:12:39,830
myself to students and then work to continue to organize, especially considering I was

755
01:12:39,830 --> 01:12:49,930
back down and bought in a lot of ours that had to be done. By day one, to give that

756
01:12:49,930 --> 01:12:54,370
text message, it was a shocker. It was upsetting, disappointing.

757
01:12:56,430 --> 01:12:58,990
So, needless to say,

758
01:13:01,030 --> 01:13:01,370
I

759
01:13:01,370 --> 01:13:09,770
I showed up day one and I continued, even throughout all of the attempts.

760
01:13:14,030 --> 01:13:14,850
Thank you.

761
01:13:16,850 --> 01:13:18,670
The parties, or any questions to colleagues?

762
01:13:19,530 --> 01:13:24,390
I've got one question, ma'am, are those documents these two bins or those girl exhibits?

763
01:13:25,470 --> 01:13:27,790
Are those the, those you are, are those student records?

764
01:13:30,310 --> 01:13:30,430
Okay.

765
01:13:42,690 --> 01:13:43,330
These are empty.

766
01:13:44,250 --> 01:13:44,430
Okay.

767
01:13:44,770 --> 01:13:45,010
Thank you.

768
01:13:45,430 --> 01:13:45,650
Thank you.

769
01:13:45,650 --> 01:13:45,790
All right.

770
01:13:46,510 --> 01:13:47,270
Thank you.

771
01:13:47,270 --> 01:13:49,270
Any other questions?

772
01:13:50,930 --> 01:13:51,090
Okay.

773
01:13:51,510 --> 01:13:56,310
The parties have completed their presentation since, and it's now time for the Board to make our

774
01:13:56,310 --> 01:13:58,630
decision on the issues before us.

775
01:13:58,890 --> 01:14:03,690
We must apply only the facts presented in the transcript to the applicable policy or law

776
01:14:03,690 --> 01:14:04,650
and make a decision.

777
01:14:05,250 --> 01:14:10,450
If there is any dispute between the issues and the administration and the policies and

778
01:14:10,450 --> 01:14:15,270
or procedures mean, then it's the Board's responsibility to determine the meaning or

779
01:14:15,270 --> 01:14:20,890
application or the policies and procedures, the record of the level two hearings must support any action we take.

780
01:14:21,290 --> 01:14:25,750
That is, if the record supports the position of the administration or the position of

781
01:14:25,750 --> 01:14:34,090
Miss Shields, we may find accordingly a certain discussion, and by need a closed session, okay.

782
01:14:39,230 --> 01:14:40,290
Then do I have a motion?

783
01:14:43,630 --> 01:14:46,990
Have a motion and a second. Members, please vote.

784
01:14:47,750 --> 01:14:50,190
All you need me to say that? I'm sorry. Yeah, go ahead.

785
01:14:50,190 --> 01:14:58,250
I move that we deny all requested relief not previously granted by the level 2 hearing officer and a pulled a decision of the level 2 hearing officer.

786
01:14:59,650 --> 01:14:59,970
Okay, we have.

787
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,840
The motion in a second. Please vote.

788
01:15:09,900 --> 01:15:32,660
Voting is closed. The motion passes. The board at this point has voted, and we will be sending a letter, note finding, both parties of action of the board and shall be in the action of the board shall be prepared and signed by the Executive Director of the Board of Relations as soon as possible. This hearing is concluded at 219 p.m.

789
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:35,900
Thank you.

790
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:41,440
Okay, board members, we're now going to address one item on our business agenda.

791
01:15:42,820 --> 01:15:48,300
Do I have a motion to approve item four authorization to negotiate an execute

792
01:15:48,300 --> 01:15:52,840
interlocal venue rental agreements with governmental entities and Texas Public Institutions

793
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:54,000
or Higher Education?

794
01:15:54,340 --> 01:15:56,400
Do I have a motion?

795
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,060
Can I have a second?

796
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:00,880
Any questions or comments?

797
01:16:02,620 --> 01:16:03,340
Can I have a second?

798
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:03,820
Sure.

799
01:16:18,260 --> 01:16:19,100
No, I just wanted to.

800
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:35,080
Thank you.

801
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:36,740
Okay, any other questions or comments?

802
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:38,100
Okay.

803
01:16:39,220 --> 01:16:40,520
Let's please vote.

804
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:53,440
Motion passes.

805
01:16:56,220 --> 01:16:58,800
Okay, we are now going to take a brief break.

806
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:02,200
We will reconvene at.

807
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:04,180
I think we're taking a 15 minute break.

808
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:04,940
Correct.

809
01:17:05,780 --> 01:17:08,920
Okay, so we will reconvene at.

810
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:10,660
Let's do it at.

811
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:11,560
What would that be?

812
01:17:11,860 --> 01:17:13,480
Let's try like 240.

813
01:17:13,480 --> 01:17:18,960
Make it even. Okay. Thank you. We stand adjourned.

814
01:17:56,020 --> 01:17:57,340
Are we good?

815
01:18:04,900 --> 01:18:05,940
We are.

816
01:18:07,420 --> 01:18:10,940
This meeting is reconvened at 242 p.m.

817
01:18:11,980 --> 01:18:16,660
We will now address our workshop topic to 2025-26 district budget.

818
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:18,900
Superintendent Miles, you have the floor.

819
01:18:37,370 --> 01:18:43,810
Mr. President, members of the board we're here to talk about the budget and this is

820
01:18:43,810 --> 01:18:48,990
the third workshop. I will do a presentation first if you know mine and then when we get

821
01:18:48,990 --> 01:18:54,290
the questions as I need to call staff forward we'll call them forward and they can address

822
01:18:54,290 --> 01:18:57,770
the board from either of these chairs or the podium.

823
01:19:00,630 --> 01:19:03,450
So as you know we've done a couple already

824
01:19:03,450 --> 01:19:08,970
this time we're going to be looking at just a broad overview of the department budgets,

825
01:19:09,830 --> 01:19:16,230
the school budgets, the NES budget, and then some legislative updates. Keep in mind that the

826
01:19:16,230 --> 01:19:22,690
workshops at this point in the year are an overview. They are draft and they will continue to

827
01:19:22,690 --> 01:19:28,870
change as we said back in January or February when we did the methodologies and assumptions report

828
01:19:28,870 --> 01:19:34,270
change mostly for two reasons one, we don't have

829
01:19:34,270 --> 01:19:41,110
finality on the legislative allocations so the revenue side changes and when the revenue

830
01:19:41,110 --> 01:19:58,850
side changes that changes what we have to cut or expand. So we're in draft and that's what this

831
01:19:58,850 --> 01:19:59,510
So

832
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:13,620
Once the legislature puts in, let's say it's the final number signed, then we'll adjust the budgets to include that, so if the average allotment goes up by X, then that allotment will flow through the schools.

833
01:20:13,980 --> 01:20:22,640
Yes, sir. So for example, the one you just intimated was the basic allotment. That impacts the PUA.

834
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:34,140
And so the board will recall that last, first of all, in the budget methodology and assumptions report that we did in February, we had to take a guess of what that might be.

835
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:42,080
And we said it would be around 200, our estimation was $250 increase per student for the basic alignment.

836
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:51,960
And so that is in the house, in the Senate now, having passed the house, house bill too.

837
01:20:52,780 --> 01:20:56,060
So, looks like we're going to get better than that.

838
01:20:56,660 --> 01:21:04,940
And then at the, in three weeks ago, based on that assumption or the likelihood of passage,

839
01:21:04,940 --> 01:21:11,340
we increase the schools PUA by $250 per student.

840
01:21:12,420 --> 01:21:16,000
If we get more money, then we can increase it even more.

841
01:21:17,480 --> 01:21:20,420
If, yeah, $75 per student, because if the basic

842
01:21:20,420 --> 01:21:25,140
a lot of them goes up to $250, then that equates to $75 per

843
01:21:25,140 --> 01:21:26,180
student for the school budgets.

844
01:21:27,020 --> 01:21:30,860
If the legislature comes out with more, which is possible,

845
01:21:31,260 --> 01:21:33,900
not likely, but possible, will increase that even further.

846
01:21:34,620 --> 01:21:42,740
if they decrease it below 250 for the district, then most like we'll have to decrease the

847
01:21:42,740 --> 01:21:49,800
PUA amount. That's also unlikely, but that's how it impacts. That's why this is

848
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:53,240
draft for almost every part of the budget.

849
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:58,100
All right, so here we are, this is the third

850
01:21:58,100 --> 01:22:03,160
workshop. You see what we're doing there and you can see what we did last time and then

851
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:09,540
we'll be doing next time. The high level budget, which Jim is Jim and team are working on,

852
01:22:11,500 --> 01:22:16,840
won't be done until June, but I mean the budget won't be done until June, but we will give

853
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:18,860
the board a high level budget next time.

854
01:22:21,950 --> 01:22:25,410
And there's the timeline as you see. So by state law,

855
01:22:25,830 --> 01:22:32,670
the board needs to pass a budget in June before the new fiscal year.

856
01:22:36,590 --> 01:22:38,170
Our goals are still the same,

857
01:22:39,490 --> 01:22:44,790
We're supporting transformation budget to follow actions, so you had a briefing on action planning.

858
01:22:46,110 --> 01:22:47,610
And so we stay true to that.

859
01:22:48,650 --> 01:22:54,850
And then also, as the board has been concerned about ever since last year, we need to make sure our budget is sustainable.

860
01:22:56,710 --> 01:22:59,170
As part of that sustainability, we told the board,

861
01:22:59,710 --> 01:23:05,790
we will try to have a balanced budget either this year or next year, and we're going to stay true to that.

862
01:23:06,630 --> 01:23:15,850
Which meant last year we had to cut a whole bunch of positions and a lot of purchase services even to get to the deficit that we had.

863
01:23:16,650 --> 01:23:30,610
Well, most likely be similarly making some cuts either to positions or and and contractor purchase services for this for this next year.

864
01:23:34,900 --> 01:23:39,660
We will continue to keep cuts as far away from the classroom as possible.

865
01:23:40,620 --> 01:23:43,020
So you won't see a huge increase in class size.

866
01:23:43,180 --> 01:23:47,980
For example, you won't see a lot of decreased

867
01:23:48,580 --> 01:23:53,800
the number of teachers except as it relates to enrollment and things like that.

868
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:58,060
We will prioritize resources as always when we have scarce resources

869
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:02,720
and we will keep in mind this notion of long-term financial stability.

870
01:24:03,480 --> 01:24:04,080
sustainability.

871
01:24:06,530 --> 01:24:10,670
All right, so let's talk first about central or office budgets or department

872
01:24:10,670 --> 01:24:15,990
budgets. Again, I'll say maybe three more times throughout the presentation. These are

873
01:24:15,990 --> 01:24:22,550
draft, but you see the budgets there on the left that they currently have budgeted. For

874
01:24:22,550 --> 01:24:25,690
example, facilities and operations, $108 million.

875
01:24:27,710 --> 01:24:31,090
You can see also that almost every department

876
01:24:31,090 --> 01:24:39,290
is being cut. I talked about since February, $30 million worth of cuts from central office.

877
01:24:39,670 --> 01:24:43,090
It might have to be a little bit more. It might have to be a little bit less. We'll see what the

878
01:24:43,090 --> 01:24:51,890
legislature comes in at, but you can see that every department is being reduced. Now, given the

879
01:24:51,890 --> 01:24:59,870
size of the budget, the reduction is fairly small, relative to the size of the current budget.

880
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,660
And also relative to the cuts that we had to do a year ago.

881
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:07,900
And then on the change, you can see the change from the two budgets.

882
01:25:11,020 --> 01:25:16,740
The first column of fiscal year 25 versus the second to last column of fiscal year 26.

883
01:25:19,650 --> 01:25:25,690
We pay particular attention to the K. That's thousands of dollars versus million.

884
01:25:25,690 --> 01:25:28,810
that we didn't want you to miss that.

885
01:25:29,170 --> 01:25:29,650
You see what I mean?

886
01:25:30,410 --> 01:25:37,310
So, police has not been reduced $17 million to $17,000.

887
01:25:38,470 --> 01:25:39,430
Huge difference.

888
01:25:40,250 --> 01:25:41,930
And then this is the rest of the team,

889
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:47,360
same story.

890
01:25:51,930 --> 01:25:54,150
So, almost every budget is cut.

891
01:25:56,210 --> 01:25:57,550
Chief of staff is a little bit different

892
01:25:57,550 --> 01:25:59,810
because we're doing the data integration team.

893
01:25:59,810 --> 01:26:07,910
All total, again, draft is on the right-hand side down at the bottom, is $24.9 million, almost

894
01:26:07,910 --> 01:26:15,970
$25 million, and remember we're not done, we wanted to get to $30 in a probably a little

895
01:26:15,970 --> 01:26:17,170
bit more than that.

896
01:26:17,450 --> 01:26:24,350
Again, it all depends on the legislature, but we're still working on department budgets as

897
01:26:24,350 --> 01:26:24,930
we speak.

898
01:26:25,690 --> 01:26:28,470
But this gives you an idea of the scale.

899
01:26:30,050 --> 01:26:31,850
And the scale is not like last year.

900
01:26:33,130 --> 01:26:39,790
Remind the board that a year ago, we cut almost 1,400 central office positions.

901
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:45,360
This year, you look at the numbers here again.

902
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:51,620
This is going to change, so I just want to note that.

903
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:55,460
But it shows you that the scale is much larger down at the bottom line there.

904
01:26:55,460 --> 01:27:01,600
You'd see the 103, those 103 cuts to central office staff.

905
01:27:06,180 --> 01:27:12,900
So while that might be larger, it'll be nowhere close to what we did a year ago.

906
01:27:19,550 --> 01:27:25,010
I'll, sir, if you, I'm done with this part, the departments, maybe I should take questions or I can keep going.

907
01:27:25,490 --> 01:27:26,730
Sure, board, whatever's any questions?

908
01:27:29,420 --> 01:27:30,420
I have a question.

909
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:36,160
On the chief of schools office, that seems to be the largest person to change.

910
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:39,160
Can you just tell us what's going on there generally, just my level?

911
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:50,660
Yes, so I've talked a couple board members about or talked to the board before about data integration team.

912
01:27:51,540 --> 01:28:00,440
So we're at that point in the district we've been two years now where we've gotten the department's fairly strong.

913
01:28:01,620 --> 01:28:07,440
We've got some ways to go to make sure the processes are squared away in each department.

914
01:28:08,380 --> 01:28:12,560
Now we have to definitely align cross-functionally.

915
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:16,920
We've started that, but now we're at a point where we can do that in earnest.

916
01:28:18,740 --> 01:28:22,840
And so the data integration team is a data integration and alignment team

917
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:25,760
to make sure that we're working cross-functionally align

918
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:32,840
and that our business rules are in place and the service of a green term place and that cuts across all departments.

919
01:28:33,500 --> 01:28:45,340
Hence, the increase in the Chief of Staff's Office, meaning that Chief of Staff Monica's Raleigh Fsky will oversee that data integration team.

920
01:28:45,500 --> 01:28:46,400
That's what that reflects.

921
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:48,720
I'm sorry, I wouldn't be in doubt if I said this right.

922
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:52,460
I was asking that the Chief of Schools Office, the decline that I've almost done.

923
01:28:53,160 --> 01:29:06,100
Yeah, so the chief of schools is losing 9.8 million and the reason is why we cut 800

924
01:29:06,100 --> 01:29:11,340
teacher positions a year ago because of declining enrollment and because there wasn't a cut

925
01:29:11,340 --> 01:29:20,320
during the ester funded years, we still didn't cut the chief of schools central staff.

926
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:28,700
So, the divisions were staffed at a higher rate than usual because of the number of positions

927
01:29:28,700 --> 01:29:32,620
there were, and even though the enrollment had gone down.

928
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:42,740
So knowing that we had to cut central office, we also cut the staffs at the division level,

929
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:45,080
which falls into chief of schools.

930
01:29:45,940 --> 01:29:46,680
That's what that is.

931
01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:51,660
Okay, just a quick follow-up. So then when we look at the next page, which is the one on the

932
01:29:52,180 --> 01:29:59,340
FTE, is that is that accounted for by the 49 people? That's correct. Got it. Thank you.

933
01:30:01,620 --> 01:30:11,720
Go ahead. Thanks, Mike. To make sure I understand what expectation could we have around the point that

934
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:21,660
this is a draft, right? And that, depending on the direction of the legislature's decisions later this year, this will change.

935
01:30:21,660 --> 01:30:28,280
But in what way can we expect these changes in other words as a percentage up or down or

936
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:33,980
are there certain programs or teams that would significantly change based on those numbers changing?

937
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:37,520
Yeah, thanks for asking and so it gives me a chance to clarify a little bit.

938
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:45,020
So the departments have turned in their budgets, but it's an iterative process, meaning

939
01:30:45,020 --> 01:30:50,720
we're looking at the department budgets, we're looking at the district budget and what we're

940
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:57,900
And we are looking closely at whether we have to cut some of the, some of the positions or services.

941
01:30:58,860 --> 01:31:04,560
And that's iterative and what we ask the departments to do is turn in a 60, 2020 budget.

942
01:31:05,220 --> 01:31:16,060
And by that, they have already prioritized 60, the top 60% of their budget is things that they absolutely need to get their job done.

943
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:19,900
And meet the goals of the district that have been set.

944
01:31:19,900 --> 01:31:27,740
The next 20% is something that if we were to cut with significantly, they would still

945
01:31:27,740 --> 01:31:33,200
be able to get worked on, but not to the level that we need when you're in a high performance

946
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:33,640
culture.

947
01:31:34,340 --> 01:31:37,100
The last 20% and we know we're forcing it.

948
01:31:38,020 --> 01:31:44,080
The last 20% is if we need to find more money to balance the budget, or to get closer,

949
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:48,400
balance budget, we're going to be looking closely at that bottom 20% and not the whole

950
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:49,320
20% of the things.

951
01:31:49,320 --> 01:32:00,800
I didn't line items within that bottom 20% and so in that way, we're able to say, look, I'm making this up.

952
01:32:01,480 --> 01:32:04,200
The legislature didn't come through. We still need $10 million.

953
01:32:07,220 --> 01:32:12,260
And so we're going to look across these bottom 20% to find $10 million.

954
01:32:12,260 --> 01:32:20,320
The other thing is, right now, the various departments went through a version of modified

955
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:22,280
zero-based budgeting last year.

956
01:32:22,860 --> 01:32:24,060
They're doing the same thing this year.

957
01:32:24,260 --> 01:32:30,260
What that means is some functions, some departments, some sections,

958
01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:36,600
losing priority versus what we're actually trying to do.

959
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:44,400
So for example, you really, you can't cut curriculum that much because we're still trying

960
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:50,360
to improve our curriculum and add more subject matters that fall into the curriculum.

961
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:56,040
So that's not a department you can cut but there may be another section that doesn't

962
01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:59,340
have quite the same priority and that might be cut.

963
01:32:59,340 --> 01:33:10,540
So the scale is about this, you'll see more cuts or either people or programs, but I don't

964
01:33:10,540 --> 01:33:16,140
want to give you a number because that'll tie our hands, but there won't be near the scale

965
01:33:16,140 --> 01:33:17,160
that was last year.

966
01:33:19,950 --> 01:33:20,530
Here, but good?

967
01:33:20,750 --> 01:33:21,270
Okay, go ahead.

968
01:33:22,590 --> 01:33:22,790
All right.

969
01:33:24,050 --> 01:33:30,290
And again, we're going to talk more about the overall budget next time, so we'll have more opportunities

970
01:33:30,290 --> 01:33:32,730
to say ask questions about it.

971
01:33:33,030 --> 01:33:36,690
I know right now the schools are dealing with their own budget.

972
01:33:37,050 --> 01:33:39,510
The school budgets are due April 28th.

973
01:33:39,670 --> 01:33:41,070
So I want to talk a little bit about that.

974
01:33:41,190 --> 01:33:50,910
You've gotten some of the spreadsheets that show what every school is dealing with, the

975
01:33:50,910 --> 01:33:51,650
PUA schools.

976
01:33:52,190 --> 01:33:56,650
And so this is, you've seen this slide before, this is a quick overview, and 2324 we held

977
01:33:56,650 --> 01:33:57,150
harmless.

978
01:33:59,530 --> 01:34:05,730
There was no time. We just, the budgets were actually already set when my team got

979
01:34:05,730 --> 01:34:12,270
here. So that was held harvest. This current year, which is a 2425 middle column there,

980
01:34:13,010 --> 01:34:21,330
we eliminated hold harvest and we went with the way budgets are done, PUA times ADA times

981
01:34:21,330 --> 01:34:28,510
enrollment. The difference this year, this current year, is we kept the loss if there was

982
01:34:28,510 --> 01:34:39,390
a loss at 12% and then just like always, we screwed up. We do a true up in late October

983
01:34:39,390 --> 01:34:47,650
after the peams report. So that was this current year. This next year, for this schools, as we

984
01:34:47,650 --> 01:34:56,930
We talked about last time, we multiple IPUA, and we didn't change the PUA, times enrollment, projected enrollment, times ADA.

985
01:34:58,170 --> 01:34:59,710
And then we will true up.

986
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:12,500
And then if you lose money, we give you 10% of that loss, that difference. So we add back only 10%, and of course, we will

987
01:35:12,500 --> 01:35:19,840
true up in October again. And there have been a few schools that have come and asked, hey, we disagree

988
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:29,980
with enrollment number, we think that's a little bit too high, we make a good estimation and then we

989
01:35:29,980 --> 01:35:35,740
of front, even though the projection, let's just say the projection is a hundred kid loss,

990
01:35:36,700 --> 01:35:43,480
so we may have changed that to 50, and then if it comes out that is a hundred student loss,

991
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:51,720
we will true up in late October. You follow me? So the schools would rather have the money

992
01:35:51,720 --> 01:36:00,100
up front and then lose money in October, you know, second half of the year, then for us

993
01:36:00,100 --> 01:36:08,280
not to give that money. So they don't have to trip, you follow me. So anyway, so we're

994
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:11,700
helping all the schools, but we will true up in late October.

995
01:36:14,480 --> 01:36:16,240
Again, this is how it's

996
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:21,780
calculated, and by the way, this is how we get the money. It's a project in enrollment,

997
01:36:21,780 --> 01:36:26,480
it's actually the actual enrollment, we get there is a projection,

998
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:29,880
then actual enrollment times

999
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:37,000
ADA times PUA. And in this case we added, remember, $75.

1000
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:46,420
So that's the top line, the 2425 allocation,

1001
01:36:46,740 --> 01:36:53,340
this year, minus what is going to happen next year is a reduction. We take that reduction in

1002
01:36:53,340 --> 01:36:56,680
by 10% and we added back into the allocation.

1003
01:37:00,390 --> 01:37:05,990
So you all have this list for every school,

1004
01:37:06,150 --> 01:37:07,210
every PUA school.

1005
01:37:07,430 --> 01:37:09,930
So I just want to go over four examples quickly.

1006
01:37:13,590 --> 01:37:17,090
The first example is field elementary school.

1007
01:37:18,290 --> 01:37:21,930
They actually have increased projected enrollment.

1008
01:37:22,710 --> 01:37:32,070
And so you can see that that third column there is 37, that's the increase, the change in enrollment, so they're adding 37 kids.

1009
01:37:33,170 --> 01:37:40,930
Their ADA is good, by the way, it's 96.2, that's average daily attendance, that's good, that helps them get more money.

1010
01:37:40,930 --> 01:37:42,550
So, there,

1011
01:37:45,190 --> 01:37:58,310
PUA, from 2425, you can see there's, you know, 5,344 dollars,

1012
01:38:01,930 --> 01:38:02,550
and so, there

1013
01:38:02,550 --> 01:38:11,570
allocation for the 2526 school year is 2.8 million, that's an increase of 25,000 dollars.

1014
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:19,240
They don't have a 10% add-back because they didn't lose any kids, or they didn't lose any budget, rather.

1015
01:38:22,490 --> 01:38:29,370
All right, so that's example A, that's an easy example because you increase enrollment.

1016
01:38:30,830 --> 01:38:33,750
This one is

1017
01:38:37,460 --> 01:38:39,960
the similar enrollment.

1018
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:44,040
So here you have a loss of one kid, so that's similar enrollment.

1019
01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:46,820
And this is Bastion Elementary School, by the way.

1020
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:53,240
So you can see their ADA, by the way, is low, 91.7.

1021
01:38:56,020 --> 01:39:01,540
So this current year was almost 3 million, 2.9, you see that.

1022
01:39:02,620 --> 01:39:05,200
So the PUA will change, right?

1023
01:39:05,460 --> 01:39:09,640
So we added $75 to their last PUA, that's

1024
01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:12,600
what that $5,049 is.

1025
01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:24,100
So that's $75 more than last year, and then times the ADA and projected enrollment gives you 2.9, 3.9, so hardly any change at

1026
01:39:26,440 --> 01:39:31,040
all, and then you can see their total allocation.

1027
01:39:32,940 --> 01:39:36,120
Again, we didn't have to add back any money because they didn't lose any money.

1028
01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:47,360
Now, this is West Breyer, this is a decrease that's, in this case, less than $150,000.

1029
01:39:48,220 --> 01:39:52,480
So, in this case, the school lost 42 students.

1030
01:39:54,980 --> 01:39:56,540
They're ADA's average.

1031
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:04,000
So there budget a lot, this current year is 4.8, 7.5 million.

1032
01:40:06,110 --> 01:40:12,170
Their P-way for this next year is going to be $75 more than what it was last year.

1033
01:40:13,970 --> 01:40:17,010
So it is now 5, 2, 7, 1.

1034
01:40:18,090 --> 01:40:31,230
When you multiply that P-way times their projected enrollment times their ADA, you get 4.731.

1035
01:40:31,230 --> 01:40:41,630
million, which is $143,000 less. Because the budget is less, we add back 10% to

1036
01:40:41,630 --> 01:40:50,350
we add back 14,000 and that gives you the total allocation of 4.745. So that's

1037
01:40:50,350 --> 01:40:51,550
What is that?

1038
01:40:54,090 --> 01:41:00,230
That's $125,000, something somewhere around there, $130,000.

1039
01:41:01,770 --> 01:41:04,270
So $130,000 is what they're losing.

1040
01:41:05,890 --> 01:41:14,950
They have $952 students, so that's not, I mean,

1041
01:41:14,950 --> 01:41:19,730
Schools will think any dollars a lot, but a hundred and thirty dollars with school with the

1042
01:41:19,730 --> 01:41:23,250
thousand kids is not that much to be able to

1043
01:41:23,250 --> 01:41:24,490
figure that out.

1044
01:41:28,880 --> 01:41:30,760
And then the last example is

1045
01:41:31,480 --> 01:41:34,260
the sixteen schools that have lost

1046
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:36,340
more than two hundred and fifty

1047
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:40,900
thousand dollars out of two hundred or out of the all the PUA schools

1048
01:41:42,020 --> 01:41:44,140
sixteen nine of which are elementary

1049
01:41:45,060 --> 01:41:47,740
in this case is the Herrera Elementary School.

1050
01:41:48,620 --> 01:41:53,300
6887 projected enrollment, that's a decrease of 35,

1051
01:41:56,270 --> 01:41:59,610
and then the 8a is 93.6, but the

1052
01:41:59,610 --> 01:42:07,750
8a last year was 94.5, or yeah, 94.7,

1053
01:42:09,830 --> 01:42:14,830
so they lost, no, 94.5, they lost almost a

1054
01:42:14,830 --> 01:42:16,250
percentage point.

1055
01:42:20,050 --> 01:42:27,110
So 80, remember that the total budget there is the new PUA, which is

1056
01:42:27,110 --> 01:42:37,910
586 times the enrollment times the ADA, which gives them $3,000, $270,000, which is $31,000,

1057
01:42:38,790 --> 01:42:48,070
short, or not short, different from that year before, we add back 10% of the loss and that

1058
01:42:48,070 --> 01:42:59,210
gives them 3.3 million. So, they're $270,000 off. They're by different a year ago,

1059
01:43:03,660 --> 01:43:03,760
and we

1060
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:05,840
have 16 schools in this category.

1061
01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:11,160
So, I mean, you can go through the whole spreadsheet.

1062
01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:17,600
We are working with the handful of schools that are struggling to make and meet, so to speak.

1063
01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:24,580
And the finance department is helping them with that.

1064
01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:29,340
Same with the chief of schools office, they're helping to see if they can do it.

1065
01:43:29,860 --> 01:43:32,380
And I'm not talking about the small schools, I'm going to talk about that in a minute.

1066
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:38,940
But there are some other schools that are having a hard time making ends meet with some of the cuts.

1067
01:43:38,940 --> 01:43:46,340
So we're looking at that. A lot of it has to do with enrollment. So we talked about it

1068
01:43:46,340 --> 01:43:52,380
school today. They're losing a hundred and some kids. So we're going to project

1069
01:43:52,380 --> 01:44:00,880
only 50 kid loss. And so we'll let them do what they can do with only 50 kids loss

1070
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:02,600
And then we will true up in October.

1071
01:44:04,260 --> 01:44:05,320
You follow me?

1072
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:10,340
So that helps them with their budgeting process.

1073
01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:12,420
All right.

1074
01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:15,280
And then finally, small schools.

1075
01:44:16,300 --> 01:44:17,420
There is a small school of subsidies.

1076
01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:20,940
That hasn't changed, but I'm talking about other schools

1077
01:44:20,940 --> 01:44:23,080
that are not small by design.

1078
01:44:23,860 --> 01:44:28,640
But are so small, like the 220 kids or 196 kids.

1079
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:36,740
It's almost impossible to make ends meet when you have so few kids.

1080
01:44:38,380 --> 01:44:45,620
So, we are working to help them, we're not going to run a school and then not support it to make sure that it's successful.

1081
01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:53,600
So, these are the small schools, for example, in the elementary orbit.

1082
01:44:55,790 --> 01:44:59,450
So, Briscoe, we probably will have to help even though they ain't.

1083
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:07,360
Objective to increase enrollment by 19, but there's still under 200. So we will probably have to subsidize that school.

1084
01:45:09,980 --> 01:45:21,420
Meaning we will, for example, we probably will give them an AP, or we will give them another teacher, or something like that so that they can hold all the classes.

1085
01:45:24,380 --> 01:45:31,900
That's what we'll do for Brisco. Every school is a little bit different. So I don't want to say exactly what we're going to do for each school, but,

1086
01:45:31,900 --> 01:45:39,860
We will take a look and make sure that they can run a good school anyway, even if we have to subsidize that.

1087
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:49,520
These are the middle schools. Keep in mind that some of these schools are, in fact, most of them are small by design.

1088
01:45:51,500 --> 01:45:55,860
So we want to be careful, and they've been supporting and they still get the small school subsidies.

1089
01:45:55,860 --> 01:46:00,920
So we're not just going to jump at and say, you know, what do you want and we just give it to you.

1090
01:46:00,980 --> 01:46:10,260
We're going to look at each program specifically and if they need more money, then we will look closely at it and make sure they can run their good program at each of these schools.

1091
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:19,640
I'm not too worried about schools with over 350 kids, but even those schools may need some help.

1092
01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:25,420
And you can see that it's not really about enrollment because enrollment is not decreasing that much,

1093
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:33,580
except for the high school ahead of academy, but that's a different beast.

1094
01:46:34,420 --> 01:46:40,940
And so that is, again, small by design and we will support it to make sure it can function well.

1095
01:46:41,720 --> 01:46:45,420
In these are your high schools and you can look at these the same thing. Most of these are

1096
01:46:45,420 --> 01:46:53,440
small by design. They probably will not need help but we're looking closely at each one

1097
01:46:53,440 --> 01:47:00,640
of them. We'll be talking to the division chiefs and the principles to see if they need

1098
01:47:00,640 --> 01:47:06,640
any help. Again, it's not a matter of enrollment. There's only two up there that are losing

1099
01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:11,540
I'm 21 and 23 schools that are rest are less, fewer than 20 kids.

1100
01:47:13,660 --> 01:47:16,160
So most of these are small by design.

1101
01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:22,300
I'll stop there.

1102
01:47:23,080 --> 01:47:24,700
Questions about the school budgets?

1103
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:28,060
Questions?

1104
01:47:31,700 --> 01:47:31,980
Thank you, sir.

1105
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:36,320
We're trying to, a lot of information for Schwarz and Digest, thank you for this.

1106
01:47:36,440 --> 01:47:38,600
You mentioned small school subsidies.

1107
01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:41,680
Can you remind me what that amount is?

1108
01:47:41,940 --> 01:47:43,500
Do you guys have that amount in your hand?

1109
01:47:53,250 --> 01:47:56,630
So it's not a set rate, it's varies by school.

1110
01:47:57,570 --> 01:47:59,570
What are you looking for when you determine that formula?

1111
01:47:59,970 --> 01:48:02,270
What information are you gathering at that time?

1112
01:48:02,730 --> 01:48:08,970
Continuation of the program to predict the buying that's necessary for their mission.

1113
01:48:09,730 --> 01:48:13,190
And does the allocation that you'd determine that you'd share?

1114
01:48:13,430 --> 01:48:14,790
Does that include the small school subsidies?

1115
01:48:15,630 --> 01:48:16,210
Can you guys?

1116
01:48:16,210 --> 01:48:23,010
both the back and 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20,

1117
01:48:23,010 --> 01:48:26,690
all the way around there, it didn't seem to put a small school of substance.

1118
01:48:27,930 --> 01:48:31,050
That time, you know, that's kind of the lock here to say.

1119
01:48:31,390 --> 01:48:34,750
Anyway, the gives is going to be an addition to what we're talking about.

1120
01:48:34,750 --> 01:48:36,190
It's locked in that P-U-I.

1121
01:48:36,670 --> 01:48:37,850
Yeah, in addition to, okay.

1122
01:48:38,510 --> 01:48:39,950
I think you have Alex right behind you.

1123
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:43,340
I apologize.

1124
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:44,340
That's okay.

1125
01:48:44,460 --> 01:48:45,660
I heard you did it, buddy.

1126
01:48:45,900 --> 01:48:46,440
Who are you?

1127
01:48:47,040 --> 01:48:50,460
And can we get another handheld out here guys?

1128
01:48:52,140 --> 01:48:54,080
So again, so it varies by school.

1129
01:48:54,180 --> 01:48:56,120
You have a discussion that I said formula.

1130
01:48:57,300 --> 01:48:58,220
At some point superintendent,

1131
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:01,180
I would like to see what the small schools are.

1132
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:03,960
Because you didn't mention that there's by design, right?

1133
01:49:04,240 --> 01:49:07,260
And so I don't want any schools except for, but I get it.

1134
01:49:07,980 --> 01:49:10,860
But those are by design when you need to make sure we're supporting them, right?

1135
01:49:11,180 --> 01:49:11,660
Yes, sir.

1136
01:49:11,980 --> 01:49:13,360
So what I was saying earlier,

1137
01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:22,480
But every school on that list, we'll look at closely to see if they need help financially

1138
01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:29,220
and we'll make sure that they can run their programs and the actual design of the school

1139
01:49:29,220 --> 01:49:29,920
with money.

1140
01:49:30,740 --> 01:49:35,340
And we made a commitment not to close any schools this coming year.

1141
01:49:37,100 --> 01:49:42,080
So, not going to let some of the smaller schools that aren't suffering because of programs,

1142
01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:44,360
but it's suffering because it's just low enrollment,

1143
01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:47,640
not to be able to run a effective school.

1144
01:49:47,900 --> 01:49:49,360
So that's where the subsidy comes in.

1145
01:49:49,580 --> 01:49:52,780
What Jim was saying earlier is that the PUA amount

1146
01:49:52,780 --> 01:49:55,720
included the small school subsidies from the past,

1147
01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:58,100
and we didn't change the PUA amount.

1148
01:49:58,520 --> 01:49:58,980
But...

1149
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:06,380
Next year, when a school says they don't have enough money, I'm trying to think I'm pretty sure it's

1150
01:50:06,380 --> 01:50:12,560
pleasant feeling for a Houston where we added to the budgets anyway, even this year, to make

1151
01:50:12,560 --> 01:50:18,540
sure that they could run the program they're supposed to run a school effectively. And so we'll

1152
01:50:18,540 --> 01:50:24,760
do the same thing. And if a school isn't on this list, and for some reason feels like they can't

1153
01:50:24,760 --> 01:50:28,120
get it done, then we'll look closely at that.

1154
01:50:28,120 --> 01:50:31,200
I mean, it's not just formulaic.

1155
01:50:32,340 --> 01:50:35,040
I mean, I know several schools I went to this year

1156
01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:37,760
were, I thought they should have an additional AP,

1157
01:50:38,860 --> 01:50:42,760
because to run a school even under 300 that doesn't have an AP,

1158
01:50:43,380 --> 01:50:45,040
even though you should budget for that.

1159
01:50:45,580 --> 01:50:48,360
But if they didn't feel that they had the money to do it,

1160
01:50:48,660 --> 01:50:50,980
I insisted that they put an AP there,

1161
01:50:51,380 --> 01:50:54,020
or at least a principle of premise.

1162
01:50:55,180 --> 01:50:57,720
And so that's the kind of support we're going to give regardless.

1163
01:50:57,720 --> 01:51:07,060
And I think that's good to hear because to your point, you know, some of the feedback, at least from, I go back to the high school senior engagement, but this was last year as well.

1164
01:51:07,420 --> 01:51:12,860
Some of the things that they were missing for some of these specialties schools were like more counselors because they had a shared counselors and that mean that change.

1165
01:51:13,440 --> 01:51:16,080
But it's important to know that that is important for those particular campuses.

1166
01:51:16,580 --> 01:51:24,840
I want to go to, I don't know if you had this document, it was actually the document that we, it was shared with us with regard to, let me see,

1167
01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:33,680
curriculum for P-way, it does say that for all P-way cam, this is H-I-Z curriculum, I'm

1168
01:51:33,680 --> 01:51:37,920
certainly going back there. This central office will fund core curriculum, so does that

1169
01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:43,180
mean that even non-H-I-Z, they're going to fund non-H-I-Z created curriculum, central office

1170
01:51:43,180 --> 01:51:43,820
will still fund that?

1171
01:51:44,180 --> 01:51:51,740
So there are, there's a list of three curricula, and language arts, math, and science, and social

1172
01:51:51,740 --> 01:51:52,160
studies.

1173
01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:57,340
And so I'm looking at Kristen, can you come up with just a case of questions for you?

1174
01:51:57,580 --> 01:52:02,900
And if they select one of those, those are vetted, then we pay for it.

1175
01:52:03,380 --> 01:52:10,800
But if you have another curriculum that, and if you're defined autonomy three, four, and three,

1176
01:52:11,180 --> 01:52:15,760
and you have a curriculum that you purchase that you want Singapore math,

1177
01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:20,780
because you've always been using Singapore math, then you have to buy Singapore math.

1178
01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:22,520
Does that correct?

1179
01:52:22,520 --> 01:52:23,200
That's correct.

1180
01:52:23,280 --> 01:52:25,760
We essentially find anything on the approved list.

1181
01:52:26,180 --> 01:52:27,660
And that's the list that we kind of improved

1182
01:52:27,660 --> 01:52:28,620
of being at school year, right?

1183
01:52:28,620 --> 01:52:30,540
The high quality instruction materials.

1184
01:52:30,820 --> 01:52:31,280
It's on that.

1185
01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:35,720
And then again, I always want to go back to board, right?

1186
01:52:35,720 --> 01:52:36,280
So outcomes.

1187
01:52:36,500 --> 01:52:37,620
How does it impact outcomes?

1188
01:52:38,860 --> 01:52:41,200
For one of the, it says the criminal curriculum

1189
01:52:41,200 --> 01:52:41,940
and digital resource.

1190
01:52:42,140 --> 01:52:43,320
And then we've talked about this.

1191
01:52:43,520 --> 01:52:46,220
What it would be nice for me to see is

1192
01:52:46,220 --> 01:52:49,400
perhaps resources that were once

1193
01:52:50,280 --> 01:52:56,160
provided by central office or by the distant administration to schools, but are no longer going

1194
01:52:56,160 --> 01:53:00,140
to be paid for by the school. So I think about this, the central office will fund the

1195
01:53:00,140 --> 01:53:05,540
following supplemental resources and talks about ZERN math, RLA, Summit K-12, but it references

1196
01:53:05,540 --> 01:53:11,280
only for NES campuses and PUA special focuses. So what are options with those schools? One,

1197
01:53:11,560 --> 01:53:17,860
is how does that tie to outcomes? I can from experience. I can see where ZERN, my kids use it,

1198
01:53:17,860 --> 01:53:22,840
So if it has helped them, but they're not in any of school, not in a PA special for T-Vote

1199
01:53:22,840 --> 01:53:23,540
focus school.

1200
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:27,360
So for those schools that will not receive these resources, what options do they have,

1201
01:53:27,460 --> 01:53:30,860
and how do we make sure that they're still obtaining those outcomes that we want to obtain?

1202
01:53:31,480 --> 01:53:37,640
Yeah, so far, we are getting the outcomes we need for the PUA.

1203
01:53:37,860 --> 01:53:38,140
Yes.

1204
01:53:38,920 --> 01:53:39,720
It has improved.

1205
01:53:40,260 --> 01:53:47,840
But there's a fine balance between defined autonomy and resources, meaning this, if

1206
01:53:47,840 --> 01:54:02,360
We're not chartered, but if you were a charter school and have ultimate autonomy, then you pay for everything, and you have your own program, and you figure out a way to get the outcomes you need.

1207
01:54:04,060 --> 01:54:13,300
We are giving X amount of autonomy, and so, to the PUA schools, especially if you're autonomy

1208
01:54:13,300 --> 01:54:19,880
forward and three, and you put your own budget together, and you make the choices to try

1209
01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:26,400
to get the outcomes you want, because we, yes, we want outcomes, but we're giving you the

1210
01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:34,800
time either to pick your resources. So the answer is if you want Zern, then you need to pay

1211
01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:42,400
for Zern, and that means you don't have something else that you want. And you don't, but you

1212
01:54:42,400 --> 01:54:46,020
don't have to follow the curriculum if you want, if you don't want to follow a free curriculum

1213
01:54:46,020 --> 01:54:51,240
then you pay for the curriculum. And things like that. So you could choose to have a free curriculum

1214
01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:58,240
that we pay for and then pay for Zern, or you can choose not to have a free curriculum and then

1215
01:55:00,210 --> 01:55:17,510
Then don't pay for adjourned. And there are things like that. So it's choices that principles make, and we will keep striking that balance between, you get to run your school and running your school a certain way costs x amount of dollars.

1216
01:55:18,270 --> 01:55:20,290
Okay. That's a lie for now.

1217
01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:25,040
Okay. Go ahead.

1218
01:55:25,500 --> 01:55:29,380
All right. The last thing is the NS Campus budgets.

1219
01:55:30,760 --> 01:55:35,620
So, right now, I'll come back to that side,

1220
01:55:37,740 --> 01:55:40,220
what we do in the NES orbit is we have a

1221
01:55:40,220 --> 01:55:50,000
pretty defined staff staffing model. Teachers, learning coaches, apprentices, there's

1222
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:55,220
not a lot of extra programming except for the program that have already been there,

1223
01:55:59,360 --> 01:55:59,360
the

1224
01:56:00,160 --> 01:56:04,980
have very slim. The money comes in on the right-hand side there where you see

1225
01:56:04,980 --> 01:56:09,500
centrally funded. The biggest dollar amounts are the teacher premises in the

1226
01:56:09,500 --> 01:56:10,220
learning coaches.

1227
01:56:12,590 --> 01:56:16,070
There is one teacher premise for every 100 kids, one learning

1228
01:56:16,070 --> 01:56:21,050
coach for every 100 students, and so that you can just kind of estimate a school

1229
01:56:21,050 --> 01:56:27,810
with 500 students is going to have 10 additional adults running around. And that's

1230
01:56:27,810 --> 01:56:30,490
that's the difference in the two.

1231
01:56:30,910 --> 01:56:34,670
So we are right now in the process of doing what we call the crosswalk.

1232
01:56:35,650 --> 01:56:37,610
We also look at projected enrollment.

1233
01:56:38,690 --> 01:56:39,830
We also look at ADA.

1234
01:56:40,170 --> 01:56:47,810
We look at all of that and then we determine how many staff members you should have based

1235
01:56:47,810 --> 01:56:49,210
on that number.

1236
01:56:50,470 --> 01:56:56,110
And then after we get that number and we know the real enrollment, that's when we know

1237
01:56:56,110 --> 01:56:58,290
of the projected enrollment, that's when we hire

1238
01:56:58,290 --> 01:56:59,870
a teacher premises and learning coaches.

1239
01:57:00,990 --> 01:57:02,970
We do a true up in the fall,

1240
01:57:04,010 --> 01:57:05,550
or sometimes, as early as September,

1241
01:57:06,570 --> 01:57:09,090
if 100 kids then come, let's just say,

1242
01:57:10,310 --> 01:57:11,690
then you're gonna lose a learning coach

1243
01:57:11,690 --> 01:57:13,750
and you're gonna lose a new premise.

1244
01:57:14,630 --> 01:57:16,410
And that happens early on in the year.

1245
01:57:17,190 --> 01:57:19,850
So there's a true up process there as well,

1246
01:57:20,670 --> 01:57:23,690
but their budgets are easier in the sense that

1247
01:57:23,690 --> 01:57:25,890
It's a pretty set template.

1248
01:57:26,790 --> 01:57:32,810
You use the HICRICUM, which has been cost anything at the school level.

1249
01:57:33,270 --> 01:57:36,130
You get apprentices, you get it's all formulaic.

1250
01:57:36,930 --> 01:57:39,850
So that's how we know what the budget will be for NES.

1251
01:57:40,390 --> 01:57:41,930
And we're going through that process now.

1252
01:57:44,980 --> 01:57:46,820
Questions on the NES budgets?

1253
01:57:48,660 --> 01:57:49,560
I have a question.

1254
01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:51,640
I just want to make sure I'm following.

1255
01:57:51,900 --> 01:57:55,160
On teacher apprentices, I think you said one per 100 students,

1256
01:57:55,160 --> 01:57:57,440
And then the same is true for learning coaches.

1257
01:57:58,320 --> 01:57:59,560
And then how about teachers?

1258
01:58:00,260 --> 01:58:01,380
What is the reason?

1259
01:58:02,260 --> 01:58:04,140
We shoot for 1 to 25.

1260
01:58:04,380 --> 01:58:08,440
I'm in a different set in a Christian, Sandy.

1261
01:58:09,140 --> 01:58:09,860
1 to 25.

1262
01:58:13,430 --> 01:58:15,490
Right, 1 to 25 for teachers.

1263
01:58:16,390 --> 01:58:20,270
And then, okay, so in the administration, what's the...

1264
01:58:20,270 --> 01:58:22,790
So the administration, it depends.

1265
01:58:23,110 --> 01:58:26,070
So in middle school, almost always there's one per grade.

1266
01:58:26,810 --> 01:58:31,970
And then for others, I think it's 1 to 400, do you guys have Monica?

1267
01:58:32,310 --> 01:58:33,870
Okay, thank you.

1268
01:58:34,290 --> 01:58:37,950
And I mean, you know, that is not a question that has to be answered right this second.

1269
01:58:38,330 --> 01:58:41,610
But I mean, if you've got it, we'll take it. If not, we can take it later.

1270
01:58:46,180 --> 01:58:50,980
Yeah, I think gracious. So for middle schools, they assist principals 1 to 200.

1271
01:58:51,200 --> 01:58:54,500
We do a minimum of three. So one per grade level.

1272
01:58:54,500 --> 01:59:00,500
counselors are 1 to 400 and then in high school,

1273
01:59:06,610 --> 01:59:09,190
APs we do 1 to 200 with a minimum of

1274
01:59:09,190 --> 01:59:14,870
four following that same rationale of 1 per each grade and then counselors we do 1 to

1275
01:59:14,870 --> 01:59:20,750
300 with a minimum of four and we include a lead counselor in that for the high schools.

1276
01:59:23,020 --> 01:59:25,020
We can send this to you as well.

1277
01:59:27,070 --> 01:59:28,670
Thank you.

1278
01:59:37,520 --> 01:59:46,680
Thank you for the information superintendent back in I was trying to pull up on my computer back in I think it was February. We got budget assumptions and

1279
01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:51,800
We were I have a question around enrollment. I think we were projecting.

1280
01:59:53,120 --> 01:59:56,480
Well, let me ask you. What are we projecting as far as enrollment decline?

1281
01:59:56,480 --> 01:59:58,480
It's 6,000 guys

1282
02:00:01,740 --> 02:00:02,180
6800.

1283
02:00:04,720 --> 02:00:05,160
6800.

1284
02:00:05,340 --> 02:00:05,780
6800.

1285
02:00:08,020 --> 02:00:09,700
So, I don't see it right now.

1286
02:00:09,760 --> 02:00:10,680
I thought it was higher than that.

1287
02:00:10,820 --> 02:00:11,780
So, 6800.

1288
02:00:12,200 --> 02:00:16,160
And then the P-U-A number was around at a little less than 1,500,

1289
02:00:16,340 --> 02:00:17,740
based on what you sent us.

1290
02:00:17,780 --> 02:00:22,940
So, the balance of that would be the NES schools.

1291
02:00:23,200 --> 02:00:23,860
I'm assuming.

1292
02:00:26,260 --> 02:00:31,260
So, for that then, what are we?

1293
02:00:32,500 --> 02:00:41,340
Does the small school subsidy also apply to any schools or is just that something for PUA because we're setting the budget for any schools differently?

1294
02:00:41,840 --> 02:00:53,320
We're setting it differently, but they will be subsidized. The small schools also will be subsidized. For example, you heard one to 200 for APs or 250.

1295
02:00:53,820 --> 02:01:01,760
And even if it's a small school, and any of us, most likely we'll get either AP, or a principal

1296
02:01:01,760 --> 02:01:02,420
apprentice.

1297
02:01:03,700 --> 02:01:03,800
Okay.

1298
02:01:04,800 --> 02:01:04,860
Okay.

1299
02:01:04,860 --> 02:01:10,980
So things like that, and they will still get a nurse or a share nurse with another small school

1300
02:01:10,980 --> 02:01:12,860
that's close by things like that.

1301
02:01:13,200 --> 02:01:13,600
Okay.

1302
02:01:13,900 --> 02:01:14,200
Okay.

1303
02:01:14,200 --> 02:01:14,580
Thank you.

1304
02:01:14,780 --> 02:01:21,400
And do we have a, do we have, and so we're calling a small school 300, 400, and below, is that what

1305
02:01:21,400 --> 02:01:22,060
is below 400?

1306
02:01:22,060 --> 02:01:38,440
So, in elementary, yes, and for middle school, I think it's 800, and then for high school it's, no, middle school is 600 and high school is 800.

1307
02:01:41,230 --> 02:01:42,370
Okay, thank you for that.

1308
02:01:42,830 --> 02:01:51,950
But keep in mind, even if regardless of that, if they're struggling because of let's say they're, you know, 320,

1309
02:01:51,950 --> 02:01:56,010
we were still entertained to see if they can,

1310
02:01:56,010 --> 02:01:57,730
we can still run a good school.

1311
02:01:59,640 --> 02:02:01,240
Got it. Okay. Thank you for that.

1312
02:02:01,940 --> 02:02:05,300
I wanted to go back. I was trying to, um,

1313
02:02:05,300 --> 02:02:07,280
hop in after Orlando. Um,

1314
02:02:07,520 --> 02:02:09,290
the terms special focus schools,

1315
02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:11,620
I've heard,

1316
02:02:11,740 --> 02:02:13,320
especially when unique schools. I've heard

1317
02:02:13,320 --> 02:02:15,180
magnet schools. We've heard that.

1318
02:02:15,480 --> 02:02:17,780
Please define special focus schools.

1319
02:02:18,280 --> 02:02:21,680
Special focus schools are the 25 PUA schools

1320
02:02:21,680 --> 02:02:24,020
that had the lowest scores on accountability,

1321
02:02:24,960 --> 02:02:32,620
two of them have F's and the rest have low D or a D rating.

1322
02:02:33,780 --> 02:02:35,160
Or low C.

1323
02:02:37,160 --> 02:02:40,560
There are differences for why they have that accountability

1324
02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:44,980
rating and so those are the, is it 25 or 24?

1325
02:02:55,510 --> 02:03:04,710
So the 24 special focus goals are the non-NAS goals that are CD or F. And that was mainly

1326
02:03:04,710 --> 02:03:10,290
because, well, we should do it anyway, but the board, multiple times of board meetings last

1327
02:03:10,290 --> 02:03:16,330
year, made a big push to what are we doing to support PUA schools? We're doing all this

1328
02:03:16,330 --> 02:03:20,750
for NES. What are we doing for PUA? We wanted to make sure that those CDF schools did not

1329
02:03:20,750 --> 02:03:27,370
drop. So we've put a lot of extra effort with support, leadership development, taking them

1330
02:03:27,370 --> 02:03:32,130
to other schools to see what other principals are doing, so that those special focus

1331
02:03:32,130 --> 02:03:33,290
schools can improve.

1332
02:03:35,810 --> 02:03:42,610
Is it all C, campuses? So, I mean, it's only 24, but C, D and F, right?

1333
02:03:43,070 --> 02:03:49,030
Okay. I'm just, I'm asking you if it's all C, P, A's, schools with us, C, and E, and F.

1334
02:03:49,030 --> 02:03:50,830
They have to see their special focus.

1335
02:03:51,290 --> 02:03:51,430
Okay.

1336
02:03:52,030 --> 02:03:54,930
I think we heard at that I heard low sea, so see.

1337
02:03:55,370 --> 02:03:55,530
Okay.

1338
02:04:00,480 --> 02:04:00,700
Okay.

1339
02:04:01,040 --> 02:04:01,700
Thank you for that.

1340
02:04:01,820 --> 02:04:04,080
And then a question back on the curriculum.

1341
02:04:06,120 --> 02:04:09,180
How many schools do we anticipate we'll be purchasing their all curriculum?

1342
02:04:09,380 --> 02:04:19,840
I mean, if we have a list of high quality instruction curriculums, then because we're talking about it like there are some schools that want to purchase or there will be purchasing their own.

1343
02:04:19,840 --> 02:04:22,080
Kristen, do you have that number?

1344
02:04:22,640 --> 02:04:24,640
I can, while she's coming up here,

1345
02:04:25,200 --> 02:04:29,120
the most of the schools over one majority will either,

1346
02:04:29,120 --> 02:04:31,780
will use HICD curriculum,

1347
02:04:32,680 --> 02:04:35,580
and then most of the others are using apophyr,

1348
02:04:36,280 --> 02:04:37,060
they approve vendors.

1349
02:04:37,640 --> 02:04:39,960
Do you have an idea of how many are using

1350
02:04:40,620 --> 02:04:42,680
that will be paying for their own curriculum?

1351
02:04:43,320 --> 02:04:45,260
It's going to vary by content,

1352
02:04:45,460 --> 02:04:46,700
and sometimes even grades,

1353
02:04:46,700 --> 02:04:50,880
So we can very easily just pull a report for you from that lens.

1354
02:04:51,560 --> 02:04:54,020
But I believe the report was 83% in some way.

1355
02:04:54,240 --> 02:04:55,660
We're using HISD curriculum.

1356
02:04:55,940 --> 02:04:58,740
So that gives you a little bit of a sense of that.

1357
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:03,480
That's 83% of all schools, not just PUA. So that would be any SPSP?

1358
02:05:03,480 --> 02:05:09,140
And the latest principal survey had 95%. We'll use it next year.

1359
02:05:10,060 --> 02:05:14,680
But again, it'll vary by course in subjects we can pull that for you as a data poll.

1360
02:05:17,610 --> 02:05:21,790
Okay. I think that's all for now. Thank you so much.

1361
02:05:23,090 --> 02:05:23,890
Anybody else?

1362
02:05:29,640 --> 02:05:31,320
Good afternoon. Thank you for the presentation.

1363
02:05:31,320 --> 02:05:36,580
And I have, I have, I guess a couple of little follow-ups.

1364
02:05:37,040 --> 02:05:41,020
Some of the question is, is regarding kind of the big picture,

1365
02:05:41,780 --> 02:05:45,160
because I was trying to put everything together and sort of

1366
02:05:45,160 --> 02:05:49,300
malignate like, what is our total budget that we're going to see

1367
02:05:49,300 --> 02:05:49,580
reductions.

1368
02:05:50,680 --> 02:05:53,480
So one of the things I see just at the big pictures,

1369
02:05:54,260 --> 02:05:58,380
we got 25 coming from Central, 8 coming from PUA,

1370
02:05:58,920 --> 02:06:01,180
something coming from NES, but I don't know what.

1371
02:06:02,480 --> 02:06:09,660
When we add it all up, can you just sort of paint that picture at a high level?

1372
02:06:11,000 --> 02:06:12,160
For the total budget,

1373
02:06:14,560 --> 02:06:22,680
the total budget is very little based on the school budgets.

1374
02:06:24,960 --> 02:06:29,980
Do you guys have an idea as far as savings or cuts from the schools?

1375
02:06:31,260 --> 02:06:37,200
Yeah, you have to understand that, you know, with the total budget is really dependent upon

1376
02:06:37,200 --> 02:06:45,100
what a revenue stream is coming in from the state and other sources like, I don't get too

1377
02:06:45,100 --> 02:06:52,120
technical, but the state also forces us down in terms of our tax rate. And so that means

1378
02:06:52,120 --> 02:06:59,020
less money coming in and remember we also have declined in our enrollment, which is one of our

1379
02:06:59,020 --> 02:07:07,820
of drivers for how much revenue we're going to see, but as I say, we are at a very high level

1380
02:07:07,820 --> 02:07:16,100
and we're not locked in yet and it is now just in the April and May is by the end of May,

1381
02:07:16,100 --> 02:07:23,920
we'll have a pretty good lock in number. I wish I could say an exact number at this point,

1382
02:07:23,920 --> 02:07:26,140
but it's, you know, legislative year.

1383
02:07:27,380 --> 02:07:30,140
I'm sorry about, I'll let him try out a little bit.

1384
02:07:30,380 --> 02:07:32,840
I'm just thinking of the decisions based on that,

1385
02:07:33,000 --> 02:07:34,500
which wanted to remove the crime.

1386
02:07:34,820 --> 02:07:36,420
So that's something like 80 million,

1387
02:07:36,600 --> 02:07:39,520
roughly out into the executive budget.

1388
02:07:40,240 --> 02:07:41,320
But things in power,

1389
02:07:41,900 --> 02:07:44,800
power, where those reductions come from, collectively.

1390
02:07:46,820 --> 02:07:48,360
And what are the sort of targets?

1391
02:07:49,000 --> 02:07:51,180
And then it doesn't have to be like, you know,

1392
02:07:51,180 --> 02:07:54,360
Yeah, I don't know, obviously. Just sort of make a picture.

1393
02:07:55,520 --> 02:08:04,060
Yeah, big picture we have reductions in the teaching force and the school side, as you

1394
02:08:04,060 --> 02:08:12,300
saw from Chief of Schools office, you have reductions there for the number of teachers based

1395
02:08:12,300 --> 02:08:17,460
on enrollment. If we lose 6,000 kit students, that means we're going to lose teacher positions.

1396
02:08:17,460 --> 02:08:19,820
That's what this crosswalk is about.

1397
02:08:20,700 --> 02:08:25,240
So you're going to have some teacher positions moved out

1398
02:08:25,240 --> 02:08:28,560
and some chief of schools office moved out.

1399
02:08:28,680 --> 02:08:30,580
So that's one portion.

1400
02:08:31,880 --> 02:08:34,640
And again, that will vary a little bit by enrollment.

1401
02:08:35,680 --> 02:08:37,880
What's happening with the PUA, but just right now,

1402
02:08:38,140 --> 02:08:40,860
if their enrollment goes down as you saw a couple examples,

1403
02:08:42,120 --> 02:08:44,660
more often than not, that means a teacher position

1404
02:08:44,660 --> 02:08:48,520
or maybe two teacher positions in a PUA school

1405
02:08:48,520 --> 02:08:49,660
losing enrollment.

1406
02:08:50,760 --> 02:08:52,100
And because that's where the biggest part

1407
02:08:52,100 --> 02:08:53,920
of the money is is in salaries.

1408
02:08:55,020 --> 02:09:02,720
Having said that, most of the money that will be cutting

1409
02:09:02,720 --> 02:09:06,540
from expenditure side will come from central office,

1410
02:09:08,360 --> 02:09:12,160
So either in programs, purchase services, or people.

1411
02:09:13,780 --> 02:09:22,160
So, we're going to be losing quite a bit on that side, and now we right-size quite a bit.

1412
02:09:22,380 --> 02:09:26,900
We're not done with that, so we're going to lose people on that side as well.

1413
02:09:27,180 --> 02:09:37,220
So, the combination between central office expenditures and then the decrease in staff as a result of enrollment.

1414
02:09:37,940 --> 02:09:40,340
And most of that is in the NES side.

1415
02:09:40,340 --> 02:09:47,640
Got it. Got it. Yeah, and that helps someone. It would be good, like as we continue to

1416
02:09:47,640 --> 02:09:56,260
hone our math there that we just continue to help paint that bigger picture. It would be helpful for me.

1417
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:05,860
Other aspect of what I was considering was around.

1418
02:10:08,520 --> 02:10:16,240
So we've got a lot of services that we do at the central office, and so it's an extensive list there.

1419
02:10:17,700 --> 02:10:25,280
As we go forward, and perhaps there has already been a study of some sort, but the line

1420
02:10:25,280 --> 02:10:31,700
with the outcomes that we're trying to achieve, and the objectives that we've laid out

1421
02:10:31,700 --> 02:10:37,180
in 2035, et cetera, it will be helpful if we had a bit of a crosswalk there as well,

1422
02:10:38,020 --> 02:10:40,740
that just shows like, okay, here are all the things we're doing.

1423
02:10:40,740 --> 02:10:47,250
This is why they're there and how effective they are and what they're supposed to do and and how we're

1424
02:10:49,200 --> 02:10:50,200
measuring them

1425
02:10:50,760 --> 02:10:52,680
for success and

1426
02:10:52,680 --> 02:10:54,380
perhaps you've done some of that already

1427
02:10:54,380 --> 02:10:59,370
partially or in full. I'm going to be helpful if you just share it a little bit of your thought process there

1428
02:11:01,360 --> 02:11:03,260
We can do more, but

1429
02:11:03,260 --> 02:11:08,220
Essentially, this is how we get the outcomes we need.

1430
02:11:08,340 --> 02:11:11,160
The outcomes that we have, the board goals and the outcomes

1431
02:11:11,160 --> 02:11:14,680
get out of intervention status are around student achievement.

1432
02:11:15,760 --> 02:11:20,280
And so the whole organization is tied to getting the outcomes

1433
02:11:20,280 --> 02:11:21,600
and supporting the schools.

1434
02:11:23,000 --> 02:11:29,020
So the metrics, you can't tie a metric in the grounds keeping

1435
02:11:29,020 --> 02:11:36,000
to an achievement, but you can tie that metric around support of the schools, and you can

1436
02:11:36,000 --> 02:11:41,020
tie the metrics around transportation to the support of the schools and getting the kids

1437
02:11:41,020 --> 02:11:47,820
to school on time. Having a crosswalk with how they get the ultimate goal achievement

1438
02:11:47,820 --> 02:11:56,940
is not going to be a reliable study. Still, we are in the process. We have done a good job

1439
02:11:56,940 --> 02:12:02,280
with department goals, but now we have to do goals for individual people within the

1440
02:12:02,280 --> 02:12:09,800
department, and that's happening. That's also part of our data work. Thank you.

1441
02:12:14,410 --> 02:12:22,210
Can I ask a question about enrollment since that's what defines our budget? So much, I'm trying

1442
02:12:22,210 --> 02:12:27,510
to understand it. I think you said that we're working towards $6800 as an estimate of loss of

1443
02:12:27,510 --> 02:12:29,150
total enrollments, that right?

1444
02:12:29,830 --> 02:12:32,930
That's correct, and why it's very little bit.

1445
02:12:33,130 --> 02:12:36,910
It's the individual schools that come back to us.

1446
02:12:37,530 --> 02:12:43,850
We employed a demographer this year who has many, many years,

1447
02:12:44,070 --> 02:12:45,950
the school experience behind her.

1448
02:12:46,050 --> 02:12:48,970
And she has given us the original, which you all saw.

1449
02:12:49,350 --> 02:12:54,310
But as we work through the budget, and we talk about programs and needs,

1450
02:12:54,310 --> 02:12:57,470
and then very input, we make little adjustments.

1451
02:12:58,770 --> 02:13:00,410
So, and I think the original number,

1452
02:13:00,950 --> 02:13:02,790
that was one of the assumptions was about 8,000.

1453
02:13:02,890 --> 02:13:05,190
So, it sounds like that's come down by about 1,200,

1454
02:13:05,810 --> 02:13:09,310
just right now, is that still a work in progress?

1455
02:13:09,510 --> 02:13:10,170
I take it.

1456
02:13:10,190 --> 02:13:10,470
Yes.

1457
02:13:10,810 --> 02:13:12,370
And so, you're pretty close.

1458
02:13:12,750 --> 02:13:12,910
Okay.

1459
02:13:14,990 --> 02:13:18,050
And just what Ms. Bandy said a moment ago,

1460
02:13:18,290 --> 02:13:19,830
that the PUA, when we got the chart,

1461
02:13:19,850 --> 02:13:23,010
it looked like it was a decline in about 1,400 total students.

1462
02:13:24,310 --> 02:13:29,590
Is that that's based on the demographer plus input from the principles?

1463
02:13:29,950 --> 02:13:33,950
Yes, most of the decline was in the NES schools not to be used.

1464
02:13:34,350 --> 02:13:42,730
Do we have any clarity with regard to the NES schools whether that's primarily in the older grades, younger grades?

1465
02:13:43,390 --> 02:13:46,130
Is it driven by demographics and what's going on?

1466
02:13:46,170 --> 02:13:53,650
It's driven by demographics and I think her comment to me was, I can't believe how many babies aren't.

1467
02:13:54,310 --> 02:14:00,790
being bored, so. But we can break it down where the numbers are coming from.

1468
02:14:01,210 --> 02:14:07,350
Because I think last year the enrollment declines, the solar were larger in the

1469
02:14:07,350 --> 02:14:11,070
middle and high schools than in the elementary. And so I'm just wondering if that if we're

1470
02:14:11,070 --> 02:14:17,910
seeing that trend continue or not. I haven't looked up, but I will provide that for you.

1471
02:14:17,970 --> 02:14:24,290
I can't tell you over the last four years with our current projections we're down about 17,000

1472
02:14:24,290 --> 02:14:26,650
Thank you.

1473
02:14:30,080 --> 02:14:31,100
Yeah, everyone follow up.

1474
02:14:31,200 --> 02:14:31,560
Go ahead.

1475
02:14:32,560 --> 02:14:35,460
We mentioned, actually, special focus scores.

1476
02:14:37,320 --> 02:14:40,940
You know, do you special focus scores can they come off,

1477
02:14:41,300 --> 02:14:43,040
being considered special focus scores after a certain,

1478
02:14:43,160 --> 02:14:44,940
I don't think we've talked about that piece before.

1479
02:14:45,480 --> 02:14:48,140
So let's say, for example, this year they become an A school.

1480
02:14:48,200 --> 02:14:50,660
Does that mean that they're budget now moves differently?

1481
02:14:50,800 --> 02:14:51,480
How does that work?

1482
02:14:51,800 --> 02:14:52,300
So that,

1483
02:14:57,260 --> 02:14:57,260
right?

1484
02:14:57,760 --> 02:14:59,860
methodology. What we do.

1485
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:03,300
We'll add supports if we need support.

1486
02:15:05,880 --> 02:15:14,060
And so they have more supports, but they also have more monitoring and more guidance on how to

1487
02:15:14,060 --> 02:15:14,980
improve schools.

1488
02:15:17,660 --> 02:15:24,520
So coming off isn't there's still PUA, they still have a certain level of autonomy.

1489
02:15:25,340 --> 02:15:27,760
We haven't changed their staffing model, things like that.

1490
02:15:27,760 --> 02:15:30,960
at the same time, we're providing support.

1491
02:15:31,780 --> 02:15:34,280
So, well, if they still need the support,

1492
02:15:34,460 --> 02:15:37,080
we'll continue to provide the support

1493
02:15:37,080 --> 02:15:38,940
and they'll be a special focus school.

1494
02:15:39,520 --> 02:15:40,940
But what we're going to, for example,

1495
02:15:41,000 --> 02:15:42,840
we're going to wait to see what happens in,

1496
02:15:43,060 --> 02:15:44,320
at the end of the school year,

1497
02:15:44,860 --> 02:15:47,000
we'll look at the makeup, the staff,

1498
02:15:47,160 --> 02:15:48,540
and we'll look at the style results,

1499
02:15:48,840 --> 02:15:49,800
the accountability results,

1500
02:15:50,360 --> 02:15:52,640
and then we'll determine new special focus schools

1501
02:15:52,640 --> 02:15:53,480
if we need to.

1502
02:15:54,260 --> 02:15:56,820
And then last piece, you mentioned one teacher

1503
02:15:56,820 --> 02:15:58,940
for 25 at NES schools, is that so right?

1504
02:15:59,420 --> 02:16:04,420
Yeah, class size of 25, all the,

1505
02:16:04,600 --> 02:16:10,000
invariably that means you actually have a lower per teacher ratio.

1506
02:16:10,560 --> 02:16:11,780
Just like right now in the district,

1507
02:16:12,040 --> 02:16:14,820
I think it's 1 to 16 or 1 to 15.

1508
02:16:15,780 --> 02:16:17,840
That's because you also have elective teachers,

1509
02:16:18,000 --> 02:16:23,040
that means you also have other classes that are not full,

1510
02:16:24,540 --> 02:16:25,520
things like that.

1511
02:16:25,520 --> 02:16:26,620
Thank you.

1512
02:16:30,030 --> 02:16:30,330
Thank you.

1513
02:16:30,890 --> 02:16:30,950
Good.

1514
02:16:31,410 --> 02:16:38,590
The last thing, so it was like about dates, you probably know as much, looks like we'll get

1515
02:16:38,590 --> 02:16:45,570
a school safety allotment, that's it's none of this is past yet, actually the school safety

1516
02:16:46,250 --> 02:16:52,290
allotment may be on the way for signature, I'm looking at my team to anybody know.

1517
02:16:53,920 --> 02:17:00,160
So if the school safety allotment passes would be huge for us because we need the police officers

1518
02:17:00,160 --> 02:17:11,140
and we need some of the safety infrastructure items put in place so that will be a great help if that passes.

1519
02:17:12,420 --> 02:17:22,380
And then hospital 2 did pass out of the house, it's going, it's at the Senate, I believe it does show an increase in the basic allotment

1520
02:17:23,760 --> 02:17:29,120
for the pre-cafonding and hold-harmless.

1521
02:17:29,760 --> 02:17:35,560
Senate Bill 26 has yet to be entertained, that's the teacher pay-and-trace that would be,

1522
02:17:35,560 --> 02:17:42,220
it'll be budget neutral because we will be paying teachers increasing their salaries,

1523
02:17:42,240 --> 02:17:43,940
it has to go to teacher salaries.

1524
02:17:44,420 --> 02:17:48,820
So it'll be a good thing for teachers, doesn't really help our budget that much.

1525
02:17:48,820 --> 02:17:53,300
And then the final thing is the shars.

1526
02:17:53,880 --> 02:17:57,280
School Health and Related Services Program does look like that.

1527
02:17:57,560 --> 02:17:58,340
It's going to pass.

1528
02:18:00,000 --> 02:18:04,680
Again, we're giving you an update, but really, you got to wait and see.

1529
02:18:05,820 --> 02:18:06,320
Any questions?

1530
02:18:07,160 --> 02:18:08,180
Questions or comments?

1531
02:18:09,720 --> 02:18:10,300
I have a question.

1532
02:18:11,080 --> 02:18:11,440
Sorry.

1533
02:18:13,060 --> 02:18:16,480
When we talked earlier, you were telling us that the 75 additional

1534
02:18:17,220 --> 02:18:22,460
to the PUA number is based on the assumption of $250.

1535
02:18:23,960 --> 02:18:26,660
And so we don't know what's going to happen.

1536
02:18:26,840 --> 02:18:29,880
A house bill too has an increase of more than 250.

1537
02:18:30,880 --> 02:18:33,480
Do you have any thoughts, pull them in early,

1538
02:18:34,580 --> 02:18:38,200
about what are we going to do with that additional $145?

1539
02:18:39,920 --> 02:18:47,560
So if it increases, well the formula will likely did the 250, so the reason you get $75

1540
02:18:47,560 --> 02:18:55,510
is that 40% of any increase in the basic lotment has to go to salaries, of that 40%

1541
02:18:57,060 --> 02:19:05,360
75% of that, where is it 70%. 75% of that 40% has to go to teacher salaries, so you

1542
02:19:05,360 --> 02:19:10,500
12.250 by 0.4 times 0.75 and that's why you get 75 dollars.

1543
02:19:11,760 --> 02:19:19,400
So we'll do the same if the basic allowed me goes up and if it doesn't conflict with

1544
02:19:19,400 --> 02:19:25,860
Senate Bill 26 we'll see what happens there then we'll increase the basic allowed me or the

1545
02:19:30,000 --> 02:19:43,800
We have a lot of needs, you know, and we'll pay for curriculum or pay for central office staffing or pay for.

1546
02:19:43,820 --> 02:19:46,060
Hazel, how things like that with that money.

1547
02:19:46,060 --> 02:19:47,740
Thank you.

1548
02:19:51,510 --> 02:19:58,430
Thank you. Quick question about Senate Bill 260. I do see that it was passed out of the house as amended.

1549
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:04,540
Are there any constraints about how the additional funding can be spent?

1550
02:20:05,880 --> 02:20:15,520
I don't know the answer to the question except that in the original legislation, most of that

1551
02:20:15,520 --> 02:20:24,600
has to be spent on actual security, police officers, or perimeter fencing, vestigial things like that.

1552
02:20:24,600 --> 02:20:30,940
I think we'll let's wait to see what the legislation says in the end, but it'll be limited to that.

1553
02:20:31,060 --> 02:20:39,900
And since we have enough need anyway, police officer, injuries, we need a lot of

1554
02:20:39,900 --> 02:20:44,940
perimeter fancy, we need vestibules. I mean, this will not, this will make it, this will

1555
02:20:44,940 --> 02:20:48,760
be helpful, but it won't solve all of our security needs.

1556
02:20:54,090 --> 02:20:56,470
Okay. That's all I have to say.

1557
02:20:56,470 --> 02:21:02,250
Great, but thank you. Thank you so many miles. Any other comments or questions, board members?

1558
02:21:02,730 --> 02:21:07,830
I guess we have our next meeting coming up here. Just thank you. I know this is a lot of work.

1559
02:21:08,090 --> 02:21:16,850
So, dear entire team, thank you for doing this and I really appreciate the pacing of the workshops over the spring to allow us to focus on certain topics.

1560
02:21:17,130 --> 02:21:23,230
So, I just want to extend my thanks to each of you for all the contributions you're making into into this budget process.

1561
02:21:23,230 --> 02:21:24,610
Thank you, ma'am.

1562
02:21:27,600 --> 02:21:33,460
Okay, if there are no other comments, we will during the meeting. Time is 3.46.