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The time is 6 p.m., and jams, can you give us the translational services?

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Information. Absolutely.

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If you would like to listen to the Spanish portions of this meeting,

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usually at public comment, please use interpretation feature located at the bottom of your screen by

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selecting the global icon and selecting English as your preferred language. There will be

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I would like to say that you would like to hear this content in Spanish, please

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use the word of interpretation, localize your screen, press the icon of the

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button, and select the two pages as a language preferred, I would like to

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interpret this as a Spanish. Also before we start, I would like to make a brief announcement

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And that Council Member Bonaghan will up here remotely to a just cause under the exemption

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contagious illness that prevents the member from attending the meeting in person.

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And so before we start, I would like to ask a couple of questions to Council Member Bonaghan.

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the first being, um, are there any 18 year older participants in the room with you at this time?

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No.

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And just a reminder that the video and audio must remain on in that any disruption causes a cease of counsel action.

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With that being said, um, you may proceed with your meeting mayor.

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Okay. Thank you. Um, so can we get a roll call?

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Mayor Lincoln, wasn't Vice Mayor Abriko here, Councilmember Barraghan,

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here, Councilmember Dynan, here, and Councilmember Romero.

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And just our reminder that all of the votes being taken place and I will need to be

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taken in a roll call, because Councilmember Barraghan won't be at any remote.

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Thank you. So before we get started, I have a brief statement that I would like

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to read. So this is a public meeting being conducted under the Brown Act. The council looks forward to

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hearing from members of the public. We are aware that people have strong views on some of these

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topics that are on the agenda. Everyone has the right to attend whether in person or remotely

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and to criticize the council, but no one has the right to disrupt the meeting.

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We encourage people to avoid using loud, profound, threatening, or personally abusive language.

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Each speaker will have an opportunity to speak.

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Unless the aim will allow sufficient amount of time for everyone, at least as many people as possible, to speak, given our constraints.

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We will not allow seeding of time to other speakers, so please be respectful of all speakers

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and their viewpoints.

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If disruptions occur, I will issue warnings, and if necessary order removals, including

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muting or moving participants from the platform.

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If group disruptions make it impossible to proceed, we may have to clear the room, but I ask

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everyone's cooperation so that we can get through our agenda today.

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Thank you, so next thing I would like to move forward with is the approval of the agenda and I would like to make a suggestion that following our consent calendar that we proceed with our policy and action.

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And then proceed with the meeting as, as, as, as, as, as, um, agendaist, um, other than that,

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that's the only suggestion I would make at this time.

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So, if we can get a motion, um, to approve the agenda with those, um, suggested modifications.

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Could you repeat that again?

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I'm going to make sure I understood your order of the day.

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I'm requesting that we, um, move with proceed with the agenda, following our consent

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calendar that we proceed with our policy and action items before we go into

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closed session.

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Due to staff capacity and certain constraints.

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Thank you.

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I understand now.

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I would like to make that motion.

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That we proceed after the consent calendar with the policy and action.

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All second.

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Okay, James can we get a roll call vote.

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Mayor Lincoln.

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Yes.

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by Samarabriko. Yes, Councilmember Baraghan. Yes. Councilmember Dynan. Yes. Councilmember Romero.

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Yes. I should have

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said this earlier, but might it make more sense to have the close session at the end of the meeting

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as opposed to broken up now firmly in the middle. Just curious because that close session is indeed

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something that has done outside of these chambers, so rather than keep people waiting.

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I would second that motion.

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So Mr. Chair, Mr. Mayor, would you be willing to accept that as a motion for an amendment

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again?

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Second amendment to the agenda where we have the close session at the end.

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I don't believe we have any consultants for that.

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I'm fine with that.

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So we have a motion.

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We already made a motion second and we already voted on it.

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week amended again or can we just be a new motion okay all right so we have a

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motion and marky seconded it I did okay so can we get a roll call about yes

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Mayor Lincoln yes vice mayor Brico yes councilmember but again yes

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councilmember Dining yes councilmember Romero yes motion carries so

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a session will be at the end of the meeting.

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Would it be right before a German or, yeah, okay.

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With the consent calendar, are there any items that council members wish to pull from the consent calendar for discussion?

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I'd like to pull item 3.23.4 and 3.6.

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Are there any additional items that council members would like to approve?

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So if there are none, I would like to make a motion that we approve the consent calendar

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absent items that 3.2, 3.4 and 3.6, can I get a second?

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That's back in.

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Romero.

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All in favor?

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Can we to roll call?

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Very Lincoln?

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Or wait.

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Do we have to accept public comment on that other items?

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Do we have any public comment on any other kind of items on that consent calendar?

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Other than the items that were pulled, no, they are related to the items that are pulled.

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Okay, all right, so can we get a roll call?

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Mayor Lincoln?

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Vice Mayor Bricka?

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Can't remember what I got?

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Can't remember Dining?

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Suit.

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Motion carries.

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Okay, so we're now proceeding to item 3.2 that Jewish Heritage Month Proclamation.

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want to read it?

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Um, you can read it as...

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I believe, uh, adeeks, noiris here to receive the proclamation for Jewish heritage month.

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So this is the proclamation of the city of East Palo Alto and recognition of...

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and recognition celebration of Jewish American heritage month for the month of May.

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Whereas Jewish Americans have been an important part of the American story

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have greatly contributed to all areas of American life and culture since our earliest days.

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And whereas generations of Jewish immigrants have arrived in the United States,

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fleeing persecution and seeking opportunity and through resilience and determination,

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they built vibrant communities and have enriched the American social fabric while advocating

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for silver rights, social justice, and democracy for all. And whereas Jewish Americans were

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instrumental in historic movements, such as the labor movement, the silver rights movement,

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and the women's suffrage, and with leaders like Rabbi Abraham Joshua,

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her show, marching along Dr. Martin Luther King and many others,

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contributing to the fight for equality. And whereas Jewish Americans have continued to face

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anti-Semitism, including a dramatic 344% increase in anti-Semitic incidents over the past five years,

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ranging from harassment to vandalism and violence according to organizations that are careful

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to distinguish anti-Semitism from legitimate criticism of the Israeli government policies,

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and whereas the city of East Palo Alto recognizes the importance of standing in solidarity with

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Jewish Americans with the Jewish American community to condemn anti-Sysmatism in all forms

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in all forms of hate and share inclusive representation, civic life and promote mutual respect

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and understanding. And whereas we celebrate the rich and diverse heritage of Jewish American

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of the Jewish American community, including those who live, work and contribute to the life

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of these Palo Alto and recognize the importance of preserving and sharing their stories as a part

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of our collective history. And whereas on April 20th, 2006, the federal government proclaimed

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to May as Jewish American heritage month to acknowledge and celebrate the contributions

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of Jewish Americans to the United States. Now, therefore, it be it resolved the city council

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of the city of East Palo Alto State of California, hereby recognizes mate 2025 or 2026.

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American heritage month in the city of East Palo Alto and encourages all residents to learn and celebrate the diverse contributions of Jewish Americans, confront anti-Semitism and all of its forms, and promote education that depends, deep in understanding of Jewish American history and culture.

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So do we have any discussion on this item?

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But I'll make a few comments.

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So I think over the years, I need to be allowed to, we have accumulated, I think, a good

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number of proclamations for different communities, different people.

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So I was mayor in 2022 and I got a request, I forget from whom, about adopting the Jewish

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heritage events, so I accepted and I think we have one for the Muslim community and I

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just even tonight we have one for Asian American and Pacific Islander, although we didn't

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pull it out but I also want to recognize that community and in fact you know all communities

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who in one where another has suffered and so at the same time contributed to this country

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And so congratulations to the Jewish community and to the Asian Pacific Islander community since they're included here tonight too.

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Thank you.

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Any further comments on this?

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Otherwise I'd like to...

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Sorry.

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We did receive two speaker slips,

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But I didn't want to just make a clarification because we did receive many speakers

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so it's for item 3.4 which is a separate item and so I wanted to just clarify

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for Miriam B. Would you like to speak on item 3.2 or item 3.4 and

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and astrid rival, astrid,

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3.2, okay, so we did receive one speaker so for 3.2.

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Okay, can we, um, or, um, speaker come up? Yes.

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So, astrid rival? Yes.

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All this dude,

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he's press the button, that's the button.

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Okay, yes, good afternoon.

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My name is S. D. three, but I want to thank the mayor and city council, Mayor Lincoln for the leadership in recognizing the history of the Jews and how supportive Jews have been with social justice causes as was mentioned earlier.

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I'm a bilingual speech and language pathologist. I'm a speech therapist who has worked for the past 15 years supporting the Spanish-speaking families in East Palo Alto and their Spanish-speaking children.

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two-year-olds, three-year-olds, and their families. I work with children who are language-impaired

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and it makes me very hopeful and proud that I support these families and East Palo Alto because

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I have great hope that they are growing up in a city where there is such support for diversity.

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I think it gives me hope for these language-impaired families that I work with because this is a

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that it really embraces diversity embraces difference, and so I just want to thank you very much.

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So thank you.

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Also, so we have some online speakers.

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First speaker, Julia Mates.

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And just to be clear, this is for item 3.2.

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Yes, that's right.

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Good evening.

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And Julia Mates with JCRC Bay Area, the largest collective voice of the Jewish community in the Bay Area,

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representing over 70 Jewish organizations.

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Thank you, Mayor Lincoln and members of the City Council for this Proclamation.

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and Jewish American Heritage Month is an opportunity to honor the many contributions

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that Jewish community has made to this country across the generations.

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And we appreciate your city's recognition of that history. Thank you again.

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Thank you. Next speaker, Kristina.

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Kristina, if you can please unmute yourself.

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Hi, I'm Mrs. Garts, too. The, uh, I have an intention. It's a wrong time.

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Oh, wrong item. Okay.

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Is it, is it a masking? Is it a wrong time to speak about it?

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Would you like to speak on item 3.2?

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Do you wish American heritage month?

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I'm sorry, your microphone is not functioning properly.

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Can you come back to me?

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Yes, so we'll be moving on to the next item.

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I'm so can we get a motion to, I'm a promotion and I think following the comments that I fully agree with that we're made by Council Member Abbottika.

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We both have been on the Council and approved a similar proclamation but also have approved other proclamation speaking out against any type of racism or discrimination against anyone within this country.

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So I moved that to be approved this proclamation.

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I'll second and I'd also like to add that you know we welcome and you know friends and

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neighbors are our Jewish and it's a small community in East Palo Alto but has been actively

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participating both publicly and behind the scenes and all sorts of actions you know to

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make East Palo Alto better place so welcome this proclamation and congratulations I believe

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Dito had a statement to make as well and will be receiving the Proclamation.

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Good evening.

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My name is Dito and I am proud is fellow alto resident and homeowner and I'm here

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representing the Jewish residents of this city.

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Thank you, Mayor Lincoln.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Mark.

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Thank you to the entire city council members who are here and are listening to what

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We come to say this month is meant to celebrate Jewish American heritage, but today many of us

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are simply asking to feel safe as Jewish Americans.

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We are at a moment in history where staying silent means allowing anti-Semitism to fester.

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not standing with, or for your Jewish neighbors, opens the door to the kind of hate and

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horrifying violence that we have been seeing lately.

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So thank you for standing with us.

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Last year I came here to accept this proclamation with my family.

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We came to celebrate it was the first proclamation.

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We it was an important day for us as members of this community. We felt like we're part of East Palo Alto now

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When you're later, I am here alone

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My husband and I felt that this is two

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Dangerous of a situation to bring our seven year old and therefore I'm standing here alone and my husband and my son are home

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My son's name is Boez Alexander. Alexander Brieger was my grandfather, my grandmother's father.

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She loved him. She adored him, and he loved her. He spoiled her. He was smart. He was tall.

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She loved him so much, and he was murdered in the death marches in Hungary.

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When my grandmother came to Israel as a child, she finally had her own family, she named her first son Alexander.

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I started my own family, and I named my first son Alexander.

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And today, United States, 26, 80 years later, I don't take my son to any public Jewish events.

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I tell him to speak only English when we go to new places.

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I didn't bring my son, my little Alexander here to the East Palo Alto City Council meeting

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because I felt he would not be safe. And that is why this matters because in order for us to fight

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something evil, we have to define it first. And that is why the IJRA, the

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Phoenician separates this course and hate. So we can all stand in front of one line

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together and say, no, never again. And I urge you all to be on the right side of

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history with us. I thank you so much for this proclamation and for what you're

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in here today. We really appreciate it. Thank you.

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Thank you. I think we have a motion in a second. Can we

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do the roll call that? Yes. Mayor Lincoln? Yes. Vice Mayor Brickham?

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Yes. Councilmember Buttergun. Councilmember Dining? Yes.

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Councilmember Romero? Yes. Motion carries?

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Okay, now we'll be proceeding to item on three point four proclamation of the city of the expo to our farming

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and the city's commitment to combat anti-symmatism. And we'll be presenting the proclamation.

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So, yeah, I think we can do that. Do you want to take public comment on this first item?

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Let's take public comment.

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How many speakers do we have?

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person and it looks like the number will be increasing online, but it's currently up six.

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Okay, so we'll probably keep this to maybe a minute per speaker and we'll probably

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cap it out maybe even more than like 50 minutes, you know, so if there's any additional comments

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that's because we have to proceed with agenda. So we can start with our kind of first speaker

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on this item.

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First speaker, David Ron, followed by Anna Stupunko and Alina T. I just asked

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that if you hear your name coming up next, if you can, please line up just to make the process

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a little faster, you can line up before the carpet starts here, first speaker David Ron and

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you can adjust the camera,

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press the press the button, so I can make it yep, thank you.

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My name is David Ron, thank you for affirming the city's commitment to combat anti-Semitism,

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and fake of a standing firm against outside pressures that try to intimidate this council

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to stop this resolution.

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They are arguing that you're trying to silence free speech.

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They have it wrong.

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Criticism of Israel, like criticism of any nation, is entirely legitimate.

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But when Israel is demonized, denied the right to exist, or judged by standards applied

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to no other country.

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That crosses a line from political criticism into anti-Semitism.

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Your inclusion of the IRA definition sends an important message.

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He should be recognized clearly with a definition of what it is.

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It should be confronted honestly and never normalized.

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Thank you for your leadership and moral clarity.

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Thank you.

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Next speaker, Anna Stepanko.

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my name is Anna Stepanenko, dear mayor and city council members, thank you for your leadership

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and courage, stand and up against anti-Semitism right now is not easy and it matters

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deeply.

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So, if the years ago my family immigrated from Russia because of anti-Semitism,

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Kindened to the US, it was amazed by how people openly practice religion and celebrate their identity,

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things changed after October 7th. In multiple rallies and meetings, we now see the old two

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familiar anti-Israel and anti-Semitic statements. We will use to such statements in Soviet Union.

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Organizations and the companies were forced to accept anti-Israel resolutions. If you voted against

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one, you were kicked out of your job, college or university. So, I feel like I am back in time since

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the same propaganda and hate. The ire provides a clear way to define and address this hate.

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It's violently adopted and important step.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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The IHRA definition of anti-Semitism should not be adopted as this council standard.

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Civil rights organizations, constitutional scholars, and even the original author of the definition

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of the definition himself, have warned that it's being weaponized by the Trump administration

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to suppress protected political speech and shield the Israeli government from accountability.

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Actions of anti-Semitism are often used to shut down conversations about Palestinian human rights and Israel's actions in Gaza,

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which the International Association of Genocide Scholars,

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Amnesty International and other human rights organizations identified as genocidal

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before these conversations can even happen.

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And these conversations need to happen if we're ever going to move towards justice and healing.

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If this council wants to combat anti-Semitism, I urge you to adopt language that protects Jewish communities without undermining free speech and political dissent.

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Mayor Lincoln, do not sign this population and needs to be edited. Thank you.

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Thank you. Next speaker, Robin, followed by Mayor.

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Oh, sorry.

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uh... jpe bruno yeah

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good evening mayor council

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right now as we sit here

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is real is under investigation by the i cj

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for genocide against palestinian people in haza

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for murdering two hundred thousand plus civilians displacing them starving

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them and at the thie cleansing them

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more than two point two million palestinians have had to move

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in just the past two and a half years

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and if that wasn't bad enough their prime minister and defense

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Minister have active ICC warrants out for their arrest for genocide and war crimes.

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Imagine if we weren't allowed to talk about this.

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Being Jewish is Rayleigh or Zionist does not pardon you from these type of heinous crimes.

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Adopting this BS proclamation not only is dangerous, but a deck but a dereliction of duty

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you took an oath to uphold the Constitution criticizing Israel and its genocidal murdering

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racist apartheid state or criticizing Zionism, which is a racist political ideology, is not

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anti-Semitic. It is our God-given right-and-cute, criticized, read Palestine.

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Next speaker, Robin, followed by my error.

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This one second, I would just ask that we not applause and do things just so that we can not

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disrupt the meeting, just want to let give you guys a warning, just we're not going to snap

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and clap after every speaker. Thank you.

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Well, Lincoln members of the Council. Thank you for putting forward the adoption of the

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IHRI definition of anti-semitism. The first step in addressing discrimination is to name it and to clearly define it.

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I'm an immigrant from England. The British government has refused to name anti-semitism and is refused to call out

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rising anti-Semitic hate over the past few years and the result if you follow the news

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is weekly fire bombings of synagogues and stabbing of Jews in the streets of London.

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Thank you for your leadership. Thank you for taking positive steps to name and combat anti-Semitism

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where he is found. Thank you.

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Thank you. Next speaker, Myra, followed by Eric P.

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Hi. Thank you Mayor Lincoln for your leadership. This definition is nothing to do with

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Palestine, it has nothing to do with this speech, anti-Semitism is the canary on the

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coal mine. A student of history will know that it starts with 18 Jews and escalates into

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18 LGBTQ people, Muslims and other minorities. So, all of you, please keep in mind, when you

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support height of Jews, at the end of the day, it will all come back to all of us, so it will

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a community of hate and division. So think twice about it. It is nothing to do with what's

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going on in Israel or Palestine. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker Eric P.

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I would like to

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second what my wife said that we're talking about Jews in America. We're not talking about Israel.

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We're not going to start all that debate over here with Palestinians in Israel. So thank you,

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Mayor Lincoln for your leadership anti-Semitism is rising worldwide is at the end in the U.S.

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Luckily not so much in this pollout so let's keep it that way and families residents and our

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students need protection. So the IHRA gives us a clear way to define and address that hate.

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It is widely adopted untrue to some other people said.

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Then it is important step to keep our community safe and welcoming. So thank you very much

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considering, uh, without the IHR. Thank you. Next speaker, Zara Bailo, followed by Sarah.

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Good evening, Mayor Lincoln. Members of the City Council. My name is Dhara Bilu. I'm the

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executive director of the San Francisco Bay Area Office of Care, the Council on American

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Islamic Relations. I urge you to decline the proposed proclamation to endorsing the IHR

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definition of anti-Semitism. Anti-Semitism is real, serious, and must be confronted. But

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the IHRA definition is deeply flawed and has been widely criticized by civil rights

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advocates, scholars, and even its own lead drafter for being used to silence protected

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political speech. The concern is not theoretical. Across California, we are already seeing

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educators, students, advocates, and community members,

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fearing and facing punishment for speaking about Palestine.

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Criticizing Israeli government actions and advocating for human rights.

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Local government should not adopt frameworks that chill, speech,

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or make residents feel that expressing their political views

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could subject them to censorship or exclusion.

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EPA has long stood for inclusion, diversity, and justice,

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And I urge you to reject the IHRA definition tonight, and instead continue combating anti-Semitism in ways that protect civil rights and free expression for all communities.

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Thank you for your comment.

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Next speaker, Sarah.

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I want to sincerely thank me and Lincoln and the City Council for your leadership and your courage.

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Speaking out against anti-Semitism right now is not easy and it truly matters.

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Anti-Semitism is rising across the country and locally.

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According to the FBI, Jews are about 2% of the population yet account for roughly 60% of religion-based hate crimes.

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Something many experience through harassment and exclusion.

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To counter this, we need a clear understanding of anti-Semitism.

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What it is and how it manifests.

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From overt hate to stereotypes, double standards and forms of exclusion.

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Especially in a community like East Palo Alto, one of the most diverse in the country, this matters even more.

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The Jewish community has always stood alongside others, from Rabbi Hechlamatching with Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. to Fred Rossignor, who helped build the Latino civil rights movement.

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We stand with all minorities, and we ask to be included in the same spirits that Jews and Israelis here in the city feel safe and belong.

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Thank you.

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Thank you. Next speaker, Likvin Kuh, fought by Musa.

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My name is Lik Bin Kuh. I want to thank Mayor Linkin and the City Council for your leadership in a man's courage.

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Standing up against anti-Semitism in today's political environment is not easy, and that's why it matters ever more.

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I'm not Jewish, but the amount of double standards dressed up as political activism against our Jewish and Israeli-American neighbors are mind-boggling.

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The kind of harassment, hostility and exclusion would have been totally unacceptable where it

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directed towards any other group. Yet here we are, as many argue that it is their freedom

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of speech. Lines have been crossed, left and right. That's why the IRA document is so important.

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Protection of one group is protection for all groups and we have as my not the vocal, but we are watching closely.

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Thank you, Mayor Lincoln, and see the council.

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Thank you.

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Next speaker, Musa, far by Abuji.

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Hello Mayor Lincoln and council members.

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My name is Musa, with care of the council on American Islamic relations and we urge you to amend the

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framework. The IHRI definition has been widely criticized as flawed by civil rights organizations,

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scholars, and its own co-author, Kenneth Esterne, who has warned that it has been politicized

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and misused to silence speech. And this is happening as we speak. Assembly Bill 715, which centers

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the IHRI definition as its key framework is already silencing and punishing educators for speaking

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up about the genocide of Huzza and other global justice issues. Under this definition,

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criticizing these really military for brutally murdering and shooting five-year-old in

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Raja, 355 times could be considered anti-Semitic. Does that sound right to you?

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It is possible and necessary to oppose anti-Semitism while opposing genocide. We ask

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that you uphold this balance and decline to adopt the I-H-R-A definition. Thank you.

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Thank you. Next speaker, Habibadji. Falled by Batoezoro.

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Good evening, Mayor and Council members. My name is Habiba and I'm also here with

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care the Council on American Islamic Relations. I'm here because the I-H-R-A definition of anti-Semitism

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is one that threatens our civil rights. The current I-H-R-A definition of anti-Semitism seeks

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to suppress Palestinian voices and labels our Jewish allies anti-Semites for their commitment

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to Palestinian solidarity and their criticism of Israel or Zionism. We cannot continue to

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like anti-Semitism with anti-Zionism.

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This conflation poses a threat to our rights

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and new city council members affirmed your commitment

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to our human rights in your ceasefire resolution.

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You committed to protect all civilians

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and to oppose systematic oppression,

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so I urge you to stick to your commitment.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, next speaker, but tools are all followed by Ophelia.

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Just a quick announcement

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And if you can please clear the IO, please, and not stand in the middle, thank you.

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Good evening, Mayor.

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Members of the council.

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My name is Patul Zaru.

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I've been working the city of East Palo Alto for almost five and a half years.

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When I decided to work for the city of East Palo Alto, I was very intentional.

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Because the community values aligned with mine as a Palestinian living in diaspora.

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You pay by itself on Bling the Justice City and historically has aligned itself with actions that you just thought.

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However, accepting this buckleation as it is with the IHRA's definition is not an alignment with that and it's progression dressed up as advocacy.

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And so I support any effort to advocate for any group, to support,

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combating anti-Semitism, but the way that is in the population right now

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is not reflective of what the community needs or wants.

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And I urge you all to read until you look as is letter on this subject

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because I feel like he touches on all the correct points.

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It aligns with the community. Thank you.

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Thank you. Next speaker, Ophelia, thought by Luis Rosas.

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Good evening. My name is Ophelia. I'm here to join the course of voices and honestly, they have said it better than I can myself, but joining the course of voices who are expressing opposition to item 3.4 as it's written, specifically because of the grave danger that the Irish definition poses to the very people you intend to protect and therefore our community at large. This is unconscionable. This definition has been widely criticized for all the reasons you've heard here tonight and more, so please do not put our communities in danger by passing this resolution.

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in this unaltered way. If you don't understand how this is the case, then please take time to listen

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to your constituents here. Have the humility to learn and to give equal validity to all

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of the voices in the room. The least we are community as people who have won the geographic

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lottery and not living under regimes that do constant bombardment, starvation, genocide of war crimes,

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is to have these rigorous debates and to actually take into account the voices of all the

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people, especially the people who are very present in the center to this issue. Thank you for your time.

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Thank you. Next speaker, Luis Rosas,

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followed by Hiber M.

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Luis Rosas.

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Hiber M.

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followed by Sarah.

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Hiber M. Sarah.

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Good evening.

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My name is Hiber.

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I'm a Palestinian constituent in a local community organizer.

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I'm here tonight to ask you to remove the

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Proclamation on tonight's agenda that claims to combat

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antisemitism by using a weaponized censorship

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definition of antisemitism.

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If you're not talking about Israel as a previous, if you're not talking about Israel specifically as a previous speaker just stated why are we trying to adopt a definition of anti-Semitism that conflates criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism does that make sense to you?

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Adopting this censorship population means that I would not be able to talk about the Zionist entities war crimes against my people against my family.

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I wouldn't be able to discuss how there's really occupational forces beat my uncle so bad to the point where he has severe hair.

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Several surgeries, those back-and-spine, and to this day can't stand up straight. I want to be able to discuss the genocide in Hazza. We're according to the Lancet and upwards of 200,000 in my people were slaughtered by the Zionist entity.

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00:45:14,500 --> 00:45:27,700
Well, crimes are not Judaism. Colonization is not Judaism. Genocide is not Judaism. Zionism is not Judaism. The notes of the definition in the arena take this off your agenda now.

440
00:45:27,700 --> 00:45:35,780
thank you. I'll just ask that we've meant I ask that we maintain order in the room if we continue to

441
00:45:36,580 --> 00:45:45,920
you know get involved in these celebratory stuff you know we I'm in the beginning of the meeting I remind

442
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:50,900
people that I don't want to have to clear the room if we continue with these disruptions so let's

443
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maintain order and be respectful of everybody's time so we can it was the next speaker.

444
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Next speaker Sarah followed by Gail Dixon and Stephanie Sarah next speaker Gail Dixon followed by Stephanie

445
00:46:13,750 --> 00:46:21,450
Good evening. As you can see I am an African American, okay? Now I wasn't raised

446
00:46:22,890 --> 00:46:30,770
I didn't even know what racism it was until like I was 14 and I went to mental afterton high school and

447
00:46:30,770 --> 00:46:33,170
My whole world turned upside down

448
00:46:33,170 --> 00:46:43,670
I was there doing a civil rights error, wroughts why it's everything, and I was subjected to that.

449
00:46:44,170 --> 00:46:47,730
And I just like to say, can we all just get along?

450
00:46:48,370 --> 00:46:49,490
My God.

451
00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:57,530
And like the man said, there's a difference between Israel over there.

452
00:46:57,890 --> 00:47:01,150
I've never been in Israel, and then the Jewish over here.

453
00:47:01,150 --> 00:47:12,410
The only thing that comes to my mind is how I was treated at minimal afternoon high school, and then I got on social media, and

454
00:47:12,410 --> 00:47:17,470
I talked to those people and they said that if we had a definitive you gale

455
00:47:17,470 --> 00:47:28,330
We would have been attacked. Sorry, you're Jewish and I remember the four people who went down to the city, and they were murdered next speaker's death

456
00:47:28,330 --> 00:47:31,410
And we all just got to do this on a reto.

457
00:47:37,930 --> 00:47:38,510
Good evening.

458
00:47:38,650 --> 00:47:43,650
I'm here to express my strong opposition to a proclamation adopting the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism.

459
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The IHRA definition is extremely concerning and dangerous as it completes criticism of a country and an ideology with criticism and hatred of the Jewish people.

460
00:47:53,250 --> 00:48:02,010
To be clear, there's no place for anti-Semitism or Jewish hate in any community, but the IHRA definition only perpetuates hate and is dangerous to the Jewish community.

461
00:48:02,010 --> 00:48:10,310
Their definition of anti-Semitism even labels Jews who criticize Israel or Zionism as anti-Semitic and cast the dangerous net over the entire Jewish community.

462
00:48:11,030 --> 00:48:16,950
The I-H-R-A definition has drawn extreme concern from civil rights orgs and legal scholars across all walks of life.

463
00:48:18,010 --> 00:48:25,230
It's extremely oppressive territory to devout to validate the desire to restrict criticism of any country and certainly violates our first amendment rights.

464
00:48:25,230 --> 00:48:28,210
All those such a proclamation is not legally binding.

465
00:48:28,410 --> 00:48:33,390
It's had some motion concerning ideologies within our community that serve as a basis or backbone for policies and trainings.

466
00:48:33,890 --> 00:48:39,110
In addition to the above, this city is a firm that's commitment to human rights, protection of all civilians, and systematic oppression.

467
00:48:39,570 --> 00:48:39,990
Thank you.

468
00:48:40,170 --> 00:48:40,670
Thank you.

469
00:48:40,930 --> 00:48:44,710
Next speaker, Joseph Monoretto, followed by Russ.

470
00:48:46,630 --> 00:48:48,150
Good evening, Mayor and Consumant.

471
00:48:48,630 --> 00:48:52,730
My name is Joseph Monoretto, and I'm a father of two kids in the Sequoia Union High School District.

472
00:48:52,730 --> 00:48:56,950
I am not Jewish, but I am against racial discrimination altogether.

473
00:48:57,870 --> 00:49:02,490
I'm here in strong support of adopting the IH IRA definition of anti-Semitism. Why?

474
00:49:04,070 --> 00:49:18,190
All I need to do is take a look at this graph of FBI crimes, hate crimes against different groups, which by the highest, I think you know which group that is, this is that way, hate crimes.

475
00:49:19,830 --> 00:49:30,510
The IHAA allows the general criticism. It allows you to throw things against Israel. It doesn't allow you to say you want to interfere with the individual of the map.

476
00:49:31,930 --> 00:49:43,730
Now, the writing one, why there are so many people here, I'm going to start. They're against the specific part, because the Palestinian movement is inherently against the existence of the state of Israel.

477
00:49:43,730 --> 00:49:49,230
These people, Jewish people are tied to it and they're inherently against it.

478
00:49:49,270 --> 00:49:49,950
That's why they're here.

479
00:49:49,970 --> 00:49:53,430
They don't care about the sacrifice of Jews in America.

480
00:49:53,810 --> 00:49:56,110
That's collateral damage to them to their cause.

481
00:49:56,230 --> 00:49:57,070
Thank you.

482
00:49:57,150 --> 00:49:57,590
Thank you.

483
00:49:57,970 --> 00:50:02,510
Next speaker, Adina Epomen, followed by Mario.

484
00:50:04,980 --> 00:50:06,240
Good evening, Mayor and Council.

485
00:50:06,660 --> 00:50:11,320
My name is Vesa and I'm a grad student in Ethnic Studies Educator and a volunteer with the

486
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total tenant association, which is both through an east of Haltel.

487
00:50:15,240 --> 00:50:20,380
I'm going to date on what's my opposition to a commission adopting the IHIA's definition

488
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of anti-Semitism.

489
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Some of the examples of anti-Semitism listed on the website include, applying members' standards

490
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by requiring a little bit of behavior and not of specific or demanded of any other democratic

491
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mission.

492
00:50:32,540 --> 00:50:35,780
Drunk and buttons are contemporary as well as policy to their other Nazis.

493
00:50:36,300 --> 00:50:40,800
This definition is problematic as it controls criticism of Israel's policies, as the

494
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ICC recognized genocide in Gaza as anti-Jurish, and as a product of the split-through

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to that system, which emphasized the Nazi genocide of the Jewish realm that LGBTQ and

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other marginalized communities is only natural to drop in persons to it.

497
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Genocide of policies were stive and bond-shagging and families discriminatory,

498
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you have to target power sign of families on Nazi genocide of policies, and you should not

499
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adopt a resolution between the systems of the censorship market.

500
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Thank you.

501
00:51:07,500 --> 00:51:11,740
Next speaker, Dina Appelman, followed by Mario and Nielsey.

502
00:51:12,820 --> 00:51:17,040
Thank you, Mayor, Vice Mayor and Council members for your courage and leadership in combating

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00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:23,660
anti-Semitism and adopting the IRA definition. The U.S. is the most diverse democracy and history

504
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and we must all work to protect it so that every minority group can live safely and thrive.

505
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:35,160
Anti-Semitism is rising and alarming rates. My children do not feel comfortable being publicly

506
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,480
Jewish, they have Israeli-American passport,

507
00:51:38,620 --> 00:51:40,340
so I have an Israeli husband, and they

508
00:51:40,340 --> 00:51:43,720
hide their identity in public. We live in the time

509
00:51:43,720 --> 00:51:46,120
where it can be hard to discern what's true.

510
00:51:47,420 --> 00:51:50,780
And repeating falsehoods over and over does not make them true.

511
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,440
Iowa does not preclude robust political criticism, and was adopted

512
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and is adopted widely and existed long-portrait.

513
00:51:58,380 --> 00:52:02,480
As Eric Wood says, safety is not a scarce resource,

514
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:09,340
Combating anti-Semitism goes hand-in-hand with combating all forms of identity-based hate.

515
00:52:09,940 --> 00:52:15,300
Thank you for your leadership in opening the door to deeper understanding and put the inferiority. Thank you.

516
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:54,400
Israel is the one who tries to defend it because they want to eliminate it,

517
00:53:01,500 --> 00:53:04,000
and Israel has never said that they want to eliminate Palestine,

518
00:53:09,030 --> 00:53:12,670
and the Palestinians are good people,

519
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,440
what happens is that they have a group that is called Hamas,

520
00:53:21,130 --> 00:53:23,490
That the abusa is minus,

521
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,060
and the susa, paquian, en marchando aquí.

522
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,360
So, it is, and Ra'el, and Ra'el,

523
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,020
and Ra'el, solamente, set off, defend,

524
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of a attack that received.

525
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,760
The least is happening in the book.

526
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,400
The people of the book are good people,

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but they have a group called Hamas,

528
00:54:00,170 --> 00:54:03,350
and they are going to march, and

529
00:54:05,690 --> 00:54:06,330
Ra'el,

530
00:54:47,050 --> 00:54:51,030
I'm here tonight to urge the council to reject the definition of the law.

531
00:54:51,030 --> 00:54:56,710
the I-H-R-A definition anti-Semitism. As someone who was attending UC Merced during

532
00:54:59,410 --> 00:55:04,550
who was attending UC Merced, we first had saw how this definition was used against

533
00:55:04,550 --> 00:55:09,350
students and educators to prevent them from speaking about Palestine. It has been used to

534
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affect the first amendment rights and it has not allowed people to open speak about these issues.

535
00:55:15,410 --> 00:55:19,710
We are talking about anti-Semitism and that can be addressed without adopting this definition.

536
00:55:19,710 --> 00:55:26,810
And this definition is a slum phobic, and it hurts the people because it does not allow them to freely speak about an issue that matters to them.

537
00:55:26,990 --> 00:55:34,250
There are educators, critical race theory educators who cannot say that there's a genocide happening in Palestine due to this definition.

538
00:55:34,790 --> 00:55:37,630
It is limiting our speech and it is not okay and it needs to be stopped.

539
00:55:37,870 --> 00:55:39,770
Thank you.

540
00:55:39,970 --> 00:55:40,350
Thank you.

541
00:55:40,490 --> 00:55:41,030
Next speaker.

542
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your broncholule, followed by a deep nor.

543
00:55:47,150 --> 00:55:48,270
That passed a long start.

544
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:55,440
This approximation is a slap in the face of your Palestinian constituents and allies.

545
00:55:56,180 --> 00:56:00,740
Combating anti-Semitism should be a given, but labeling criticism of Israel anti-Semitism,

546
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:07,480
or limiting how that criticism can be put forward is insane, and a blatant violation of our first amendment rights.

547
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:12,180
Council Member Mark earlier you mentioned that this proclamation does not limit criticism of Israel.

548
00:56:12,740 --> 00:56:20,640
One of those examples specifically written in the agenda and in that definition is drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.

549
00:56:21,460 --> 00:56:28,400
After the amount of dead babies and their entrails that I've seen, after how many children's skulls that have been forced into our memories via Israel's genocide.

550
00:56:28,940 --> 00:56:34,340
And after the things its contemporary policy has in store for the eradication of Palestinians in Palestine,

551
00:56:34,340 --> 00:56:37,680
that is the most mild form of criticism of that entity.

552
00:56:38,300 --> 00:56:42,020
This is the entity that is butchered over 200,000 Palestinians in Gaza alone

553
00:56:42,020 --> 00:56:46,700
has displaced 2 million of their population, displaced 1.2 million so far

554
00:56:46,700 --> 00:56:50,160
or self-relivenance population, and continues this state of bomb Gaza

555
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,000
and prevent critical supplies to a population suffering from famine.

556
00:56:53,460 --> 00:56:56,340
It should be compared to Nazis all day, every day.

557
00:56:56,620 --> 00:56:59,100
And if you saw what we did, you'd say the same thing.

558
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,240
This population should go, and you should be ashamed of yourselves.

559
00:57:03,100 --> 00:57:06,260
Thank you, next speaker, Adit Noor.

560
00:57:06,580 --> 00:57:07,420
Excuse me one second.

561
00:57:09,140 --> 00:57:13,460
I think Rob Niel, can you give the speakers space when they're coming up to speak your kind of,

562
00:57:13,460 --> 00:57:15,840
it's intimidating to be right next to someone.

563
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,660
So if you can please give people space when they come up to speak,

564
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:21,560
thank you, this is a warning.

565
00:57:24,180 --> 00:57:29,000
Thank you, I actually want to use my minute because I already expressed my opinion.

566
00:57:29,100 --> 00:57:33,880
I want to use this minute to explain to you what it feels like for me to stand here

567
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:40,360
Jewish person and why I've had to fight my tears from the moment they started. When I was 20,

568
00:57:40,940 --> 00:57:47,660
two Israelis took a wrong turn into Ramallah and I said with my family watching live,

569
00:57:47,660 --> 00:57:54,220
how they were being lynched on life TV. At some point, a young man wanted to tell the crowd,

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00:57:54,720 --> 00:58:01,640
we got them, we murdered the Jews, he stood with his palms full of blood, showed it to the crowd and

571
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:10,060
all cheered. I will never forget this moment. And this is what I need to see here in my city.

572
00:58:10,660 --> 00:58:17,020
I need to see here something that symbolizes the celebration of the murder of Jews.

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00:58:18,020 --> 00:58:27,170
This is why we need to set a line and say that there are things that are unacceptable. Thank you.

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00:58:27,170 --> 00:58:32,670
Next speaker, Donna Wallach, followed by Miriam Boosie.

575
00:58:51,510 --> 00:58:52,550
My name is Donna Wallach.

576
00:58:52,630 --> 00:58:54,270
I am Jewish with his many citizenship.

577
00:58:54,810 --> 00:58:59,530
You must not use the IHRO definition of anti-Semitism for the population.

578
00:59:00,370 --> 00:59:04,830
I lived in Israel for 15 years and witnessed the racist and apartheid policies

579
00:59:04,830 --> 00:59:07,850
of Israeli government towards its many citizens.

580
00:59:08,310 --> 00:59:10,290
And so, James and for sure Palestinians.

581
00:59:11,130 --> 00:59:15,290
Israel has passed more than 50 laws to ensure that Palestinians

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00:59:15,290 --> 00:59:25,070
with Israeli citizenship do not have equal rights to an Jewish person. For example, Palestinians are not allowed to fly on the internal Israeli airlines.

583
00:59:25,590 --> 00:59:34,730
For decades, the Israeli government has been committing genocide and ethnic cleansing against the Palestinians living in West Bank East Jerusalem and Gaza.

584
00:59:34,730 --> 00:59:40,550
The Israeli military, the military, the military and violence groups Palestinians, the Israeli government

585
00:59:40,550 --> 00:59:43,950
is called the Palestinians, cockroaches, and human animals.

586
00:59:44,590 --> 00:59:47,990
Palestinians teach their children to be kind, gymnasts, and loving.

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00:59:48,770 --> 00:59:54,130
Wherever I have gone in Palestine as it was really June, I was always welcomed and treated

588
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dignity and respect, and treated like family.

589
00:59:57,150 --> 00:59:59,590
Criticizer Israel is not anti-Semitic.

590
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,240
We must all criticize Israel for the ongoing genocide.

591
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:11,060
Next speaker, uh, Miriam Busy, followed by Adina Denzig.

592
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:18,380
Hi. My father was a U.S. Marine and World War II, who spent years fighting the Nazis.

593
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:27,180
80 years later, my grandson, Hides' Jewish starpenning when he goes to certain cities. This isn't right.

594
01:00:27,180 --> 01:00:34,020
Thank you Mayor Lincoln and the Council for this proclamation and including the definition.

595
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:41,700
Thank you for trying to make these Palo Alto place where my grandson can wear his Jewish star without fear.

596
01:00:42,380 --> 01:00:49,820
Please do not water down the proclamation by removing the international accepted definition of anti-Semitism.

597
01:00:50,300 --> 01:00:55,360
It provides a framework to recognize and respond to expressions of hate against Jews.

598
01:00:55,360 --> 01:01:06,120
Freedom of expression is a right. Hate speech is not. Let's respect and protect all our diverse communities. Thank you very much.

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01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,280
Next speaker, Adina Danzig, followed by David Ryber.

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01:01:13,540 --> 01:01:19,180
Next speaker David Ryber, followed by David Ron.

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01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:36,680
Hello, my name is David Reaver. I'm from Caracas, Venezuela. I moved to the Bay Area in 1995.

602
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,700
Thank you, Mayor Lincoln for your courage and leadership.

603
01:01:43,180 --> 01:01:51,840
On the rise throughout the world, we have seen a number of events of hate, violence,

604
01:01:52,640 --> 01:02:01,100
feelings, harassment, hatred, including here in the Bay Area, harassment in schools, businesses.

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01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:09,520
This sometimes starts with just a hateful speech and it escalates and escalates and

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01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:10,480
it's in violence.

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01:02:13,940 --> 01:02:17,260
There have been events in Bondi Beach, Australia, Pittsburgh, Washington

608
01:02:17,260 --> 01:02:27,320
to see Colorado, London, many events, and there were courageous citizens in Australia who helped

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01:02:27,900 --> 01:02:33,960
stop one of the assassins. Thank you. Next speaker, Lisa Katz, on Zoom,

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followed by Philly Saragosa.

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01:02:43,980 --> 01:02:46,580
Hi, Julia Mates. Hi, can you hear me? This Lisa? Yes.

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01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:52,880
Okay. Good evening, Mayor and Council members. I'm Lisa Katz, chief government affairs officer of

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01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:57,020
combat anti-Semitism movement and a formal council member and mayor.

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01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:02,160
I urge you tonight to pass this proclamation with the IRA definition and it's a

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01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:07,540
11 contemporary examples intact. This definition was promulgated by an international

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01:03:07,540 --> 01:03:12,680
body comprised of 35 member countries and has been adopted around the world including

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the U.S. State Department. IRA matters because anti-Semitism is not always easy to recognize.

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01:03:19,340 --> 01:03:23,080
It does not always appear as a slur or a swastika.

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01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:29,120
Today, it often appears as conspiracy theories about Jewish power, accusations of Jewish

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01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,400
disloyalty and collective blame.

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01:03:31,940 --> 01:03:32,960
Let me be clear.

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01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:38,580
It has nothing to do with geopolitics and does not prohibit criticism of Israel.

623
01:03:39,260 --> 01:03:45,660
What it does do is help identify when criticism crosses the line into demonization, double

624
01:03:45,660 --> 01:03:47,920
standards, delegint, delegint.

625
01:03:47,940 --> 01:03:48,460
Thank you.

626
01:03:48,460 --> 01:03:53,960
The next speaker, Julia Mates, followed by Philly Sadagoza.

627
01:03:56,260 --> 01:03:57,940
Next speaker, Philly Sadagoza.

628
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:05,420
Hello.

629
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:07,000
Can you hear me?

630
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:08,480
Yes.

631
01:04:09,260 --> 01:04:09,560
Awesome.

632
01:04:10,380 --> 01:04:11,300
Good evening, City Council.

633
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,280
I'm here today to urge the Council to not adopt the IRAs.

634
01:04:14,860 --> 01:04:17,720
The I-Ruzz definition of anti-Semitism.

635
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:21,940
We pass a ceasefire resolution to show our support for the Palestinians who have been suffering

636
01:04:21,940 --> 01:04:23,520
under their oppressors for decades.

637
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:27,220
How can we turn our back on them and pass something that goes against our support?

638
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:31,520
The Israeli government has been conducting genocide and they deserve to be criticized.

639
01:04:32,060 --> 01:04:36,860
For over 70 years, Palestinians have been killed, torture can have been robbed of their own homes.

640
01:04:37,500 --> 01:04:41,400
We cannot allow this faulty definition to get in the way of exposing all of Israel's crimes,

641
01:04:41,860 --> 01:04:46,300
which if you haven't seen or all recorded in real time.

642
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,700
The Irish definition cannot be allowed to pass.

643
01:04:49,700 --> 01:04:55,580
This is not about anti-Semitism. It's a direct push for Zionism. We can protect our community from anti-Semitism,

644
01:04:55,660 --> 01:05:00,920
but this definition is not the way. And while I still can, I'll say it here, free Palestine.

645
01:05:02,300 --> 01:05:05,860
Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker, Wendy Fang, followed by Leibachik.

646
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:15,060
Leibin. Hi. Thank you so much for having this meeting. I'm calling to urge the council to

647
01:05:15,060 --> 01:05:22,020
reject the ira definition, and I'd like to quote a letter from Antonio Lopez published in the

648
01:05:22,020 --> 01:05:28,520
Stanford Daily today. This is not abstract. Eastpullo Alto is the black family subilted before there

649
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:33,680
was an EPA to build. The Tonggan and Simone churches, the Mexican Abuela's walking pandal

650
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:39,180
say home from Mipueblo, the Yemeni Shopkeeper on University Avenue, the Palestinian family who's

651
01:05:39,180 --> 01:05:44,160
nightly news is also their family WhatsApp group, the Jewish neighbor who chose this city in part

652
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,180
because it knows how to hold difference.

653
01:05:46,780 --> 01:05:49,220
A proclamation that elevates one community's pain

654
01:05:49,220 --> 01:05:51,120
by chilling another community's speech

655
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,040
does not represent any of them.

656
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,260
And contrary to what its proponents claim,

657
01:05:55,580 --> 01:05:57,260
it does not make Jewish residents safer.

658
01:05:57,860 --> 01:05:59,600
Hate that goes unnamed in one direction,

659
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:01,960
does not stay contained in metastasizes.

660
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,700
The council must remove the IRA working definition

661
01:06:04,700 --> 01:06:05,760
from the proclamation.

662
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,700
We are fully capable of condemning anti-Semitic hate,

663
01:06:08,900 --> 01:06:09,760
plainly and forcefully,

664
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,300
in language that does not double as a speech code.

665
01:06:12,300 --> 01:06:15,060
We must be true to the end of the community.

666
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,100
Live in Sheek.

667
01:06:17,100 --> 01:06:18,340
Thank you.

668
01:06:31,580 --> 01:06:32,940
Live in Sheek.

669
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:36,460
Hope, sir, can you hear me?

670
01:06:37,700 --> 01:06:38,440
Good evening, Council.

671
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:39,680
My name is Lee Banshek.

672
01:06:39,860 --> 01:06:41,920
I'm a resident of East Palo Alto.

673
01:06:42,620 --> 01:06:46,880
I'm urging the Council to not adopt the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism

674
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:52,080
for its use in conflating criticism of the state of Israel with hatred of the Jewish people.

675
01:06:52,620 --> 01:06:55,740
Such a conflation is itself an example of anti-Semitism

676
01:06:55,740 --> 01:07:05,920
and the dangerous attempt at tying all members of the Jewish faith with the actions of a state currently perpetrating genocide and ethnic cleansing in Palestine and Lebanon.

677
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:13,540
It is for this reason many Jewish scholars civil rights organizations and legal experts have criticized the IHRI's definition.

678
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:23,760
Our community is perfectly capable of condemning bigotry and hatred of any kind and to protect our Jewish brothers and sisters from this rising tide of antisemitism

679
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:31,780
without outside influence from political organizations like the combat anti-Semitism movement whose board and senior staff include

680
01:07:31,780 --> 01:07:38,300
former Israeli government ministers, former IDF spokespeople, and a former chief censor of Israeli military.

681
01:07:40,060 --> 01:07:41,660
Thank you.

682
01:07:41,780 --> 01:07:42,240
Thank you.

683
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:44,760
Next speaker Julia Mates.

684
01:07:54,300 --> 01:07:57,380
Julia Mates fought by ASEA Patel.

685
01:07:58,260 --> 01:07:58,720
Good evening.

686
01:07:58,940 --> 01:08:01,200
I'm Julia Mates with JCRC Bay Area.

687
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:05,880
Thank you Mayor Lincoln and members of the City Council for your clear stance against anti-Semitism.

688
01:08:06,420 --> 01:08:09,300
It sends a powerful message at a time when it is deeply needed.

689
01:08:09,740 --> 01:08:15,500
It means a great deal to our community to know that East Palo Alto is a city where Jewish residents are supported, respected, and safe.

690
01:08:15,700 --> 01:08:16,720
Thank you for your leadership.

691
01:08:18,580 --> 01:08:20,900
Thank you. Next speaker, Acia Patel,

692
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,920
and then we'll be going back to in person with Alan Fisher.

693
01:08:26,590 --> 01:08:34,730
Hello, Council, I just wanted to mention that I am disappointed in this Council for wanting to use the

694
01:08:34,730 --> 01:08:35,430
Ira definition.

695
01:08:36,770 --> 01:08:40,350
Please reconsider using it or use a different definition.

696
01:08:41,170 --> 01:08:45,750
The Council can proclaim being against anti-Semitism without using this definition,

697
01:08:46,450 --> 01:08:49,190
whose examples protect Zionism and Israel.

698
01:08:49,830 --> 01:08:53,110
Please focus on the issues that are happening in our community.

699
01:08:53,110 --> 01:09:01,990
We have enough going on without using inflammatory definitions that suppress free speech and marginalize our Palestinian residents and city employees.

700
01:09:02,970 --> 01:09:04,110
Thank you.

701
01:09:04,890 --> 01:09:05,590
Thank you.

702
01:09:06,030 --> 01:09:06,470
Next speaker.

703
01:09:07,770 --> 01:09:10,630
Alan Fisher followed by Lick Bynku.

704
01:09:13,190 --> 01:09:19,110
My name is Alan Fisher, and I want to thank the mayor and the council for the proclamations,

705
01:09:19,110 --> 01:09:23,690
recognized in Jewish American heritage month, and for affirming the city's commitment to

706
01:09:23,690 --> 01:09:29,830
combating antisemitism. The first proclamation noted, recalled that Rava Abraham Joshua

707
01:09:29,830 --> 01:09:36,310
Heshal, a leading rabbi of the time, marched in some alongside Dr. King. As a past president

708
01:09:36,310 --> 01:09:41,890
of a congregation, Beth J. K. K. I. K. I. Great Pride in recalling that our rabbi of the time,

709
01:09:42,050 --> 01:09:48,550
at the late David title bomb, also marched in some with Dr. King. In 1979, a far less troubled

710
01:09:48,550 --> 01:09:53,730
time for Jews than now, our synagogue was burned to the ground, in what remains an unsolved

711
01:09:53,730 --> 01:09:57,150
hate crime, to our congregation hate is not hypothetical.

712
01:09:58,050 --> 01:10:03,950
Fighting hatred begins by defining it, an essential tool was provided by the IHRA definition

713
01:10:03,950 --> 01:10:05,570
and the associated examples.

714
01:10:06,230 --> 01:10:10,450
The IHRA definition is not a criminal law, it explicitly has no legal force.

715
01:10:10,750 --> 01:10:15,550
As the proclamation notes, the definition does not contrabeen the first amendment, which allows

716
01:10:15,550 --> 01:10:19,190
statements of hatred against use as against other groups. It allows

717
01:10:19,190 --> 01:10:22,070
court, courtesy of Israel, but thank you. I'm sure in this

718
01:10:22,070 --> 01:10:23,510
press presents a double standard.

719
01:10:23,570 --> 01:10:25,710
Next speaker, look when cool,

720
01:10:28,630 --> 01:10:31,490
next speaker, Francisco, followed by

721
01:10:32,450 --> 01:10:35,010
Zainab, Francisco,

722
01:10:41,050 --> 01:10:44,630
followed by Zainab. Good evening, Council. My name is

723
01:10:44,630 --> 01:10:50,150
Francisco. I'm in standing here against the IHRA definition.

724
01:10:52,170 --> 01:10:52,170
We

725
01:10:52,170 --> 01:10:59,190
almost all stand for hate, the moment that we look away because quote, they are our allies

726
01:10:59,190 --> 01:11:07,190
is wrong. It's morally wrong. We can't sit by and not criticize the state of Israel

727
01:11:07,190 --> 01:11:16,710
for the decimation of the people. I will continue to stand up and shame on those that stand

728
01:11:16,710 --> 01:11:27,050
behind the anti-Semitism label. When in fact fear has been widespread, we currently have

729
01:11:27,050 --> 01:11:39,510
a regime in this country that supports the continued genocide of Palestinians. They're settlers.

730
01:11:40,470 --> 01:11:42,110
They are settlers.

731
01:11:43,370 --> 01:11:44,510
Thank you.

732
01:11:44,610 --> 01:11:47,390
Next speaker, Zainab followed by Anita.

733
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:55,060
You have passed a button.

734
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:56,660
Okay, good evening.

735
01:11:57,380 --> 01:12:06,180
I'm here to pose the IRA definition of anti-Semitism because it conflates anti-Semitism with anti-Semitism and the criticism of the state of Israel.

736
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:11,080
One of the speakers today said that Israel cannot be held to a couple standard.

737
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:16,300
of not same language as being used in the IRA definition, as well as an example saying that

738
01:12:16,300 --> 01:12:22,200
we cannot compare Israeli policy to the Nazis. However, the Israeli policy that is made

739
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:26,580
and apartheid against Palestinians committing genocide against Palestinians, the policies that

740
01:12:26,580 --> 01:12:33,880
are allowed for that is directly comparable to the Nazi Germany did. Currently Israel is committing

741
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:39,860
a genocide in Palestine and they have legalized that execution of Palestinian hostage rights

742
01:12:39,860 --> 01:12:46,160
taken without trial, fair trial to be executed.

743
01:12:47,060 --> 01:12:49,130
And we should be allowed to speak against that.

744
01:12:49,480 --> 01:12:54,680
And the definition by, as I said, we're going to be a grave disaster.

745
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:56,560
Thank you.

746
01:12:56,780 --> 01:12:59,320
Next speaker, Nida, followed by Leonel,

747
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:01,060
Ankel Santivania's bargas.

748
01:13:10,570 --> 01:13:11,430
It's problematic.

749
01:13:11,970 --> 01:13:13,290
Why is this problematic?

750
01:13:13,850 --> 01:13:17,470
There's definition prohibits criticism of Israel and its policies.

751
01:13:17,470 --> 01:13:20,830
As an American, you can even criticize a state.

752
01:13:21,390 --> 01:13:24,610
I see that has committed war crimes for over 70 years.

753
01:13:24,970 --> 01:13:27,590
I state that the Prime Minister is worth it in the machine,

754
01:13:27,830 --> 01:13:29,570
it should be arrested for war crimes.

755
01:13:30,170 --> 01:13:32,130
It's the state that just must be regretty.

756
01:13:32,290 --> 01:13:34,130
All of the government is doing this, right?

757
01:13:34,550 --> 01:13:36,230
It's just a lot to do with you.

758
01:13:36,430 --> 01:13:39,470
I state that has the ability to do this in the government

759
01:13:39,470 --> 01:13:41,670
to stop by over two years.

760
01:13:42,010 --> 01:13:45,130
Not slaves are children, fathers and mothers.

761
01:13:45,130 --> 01:13:47,070
We will be in the second case.

762
01:13:47,470 --> 01:13:49,900
I'm going to be in the second case.

763
01:13:50,180 --> 01:13:52,600
Because I'm going to be in the second case.

764
01:13:53,340 --> 01:13:54,240
I'm going

765
01:14:06,330 --> 01:14:06,890
to be in the second case.

766
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:14,460
Thank you.

767
01:14:14,460 --> 01:14:14,680
Thank

768
01:14:22,010 --> 01:14:23,110
you.

769
01:14:24,910 --> 01:14:25,130
Thank you.

770
01:14:25,130 --> 01:14:26,230
Thank you.

771
01:14:34,490 --> 01:14:38,890
Once again, I'm asking us to maintain order in the council chambers.

772
01:14:39,130 --> 01:14:41,190
If you guys want to talk, you can go out in the hallway.

773
01:14:41,530 --> 01:14:43,410
If you want to snap, you can go out there.

774
01:14:43,730 --> 01:14:46,110
But in this room, we want to maintain order.

775
01:14:46,110 --> 01:14:51,950
So let's try and proceed, I'm else we'll have to, you know, in cup public comment.

776
01:14:52,670 --> 01:14:54,140
So how many more speakers do we have?

777
01:15:02,660 --> 01:15:13,700
9, and then there are 11 on Zoom. So I think we cut it off at 50 minutes, so we only have a time for maybe two or three more.

778
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:26,840
Just for the mayor, you've probably taken three minutes in admonition against saying things, maybe we should add a little more time, because people have not been able to speed in that 15 minutes completely, 15 minutes completely.

779
01:15:29,060 --> 01:15:30,120
Let's proceed.

780
01:15:32,980 --> 01:15:35,480
Next speaker, Leo Nell, Uncle, some Devonius.

781
01:15:37,140 --> 01:15:38,420
Uncle, some Devonius.

782
01:15:41,930 --> 01:15:45,510
Miriam B. Miriam B.

783
01:15:48,460 --> 01:15:49,600
Yuzra Hussain.

784
01:15:51,440 --> 01:15:52,980
Thought by Colin Bookman.

785
01:16:00,300 --> 01:16:02,080
Thank you, Council for being here today.

786
01:16:02,700 --> 01:16:08,260
I came, I'm a physician, and I'm part of this, but I'll take a community.

787
01:16:09,540 --> 01:16:17,080
I'm originally from Erwalt and I can tell you honestly silencing of speech can only start slowly and then it progresses.

788
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:25,560
And so generally the IHR, the Phoenicians and DiSemitism is flawed and misleading.

789
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:31,860
Israel has been committing war crimes and which would be a lot to criticize Israel for what is doing.

790
01:16:31,860 --> 01:16:39,140
I have seen teachers who are afraid to speak about Israel and Zion of them because of fear of losing their jobs.

791
01:16:39,700 --> 01:16:46,240
And this has been, you know, seeing examples of the examples of people really being fired from their jobs.

792
01:16:46,820 --> 01:16:51,060
People, you know, they lay jobs, people being accused of antisemitism in reality.

793
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:58,240
They are just pointing out their atrocities that Israeli government has been doing in the West Bank and everywhere else.

794
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:01,320
Thank you so much for taking my call.

795
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:05,040
Thank you next speaker, Colin Bookman, followed by Mike Sanford.

796
01:17:07,390 --> 01:17:12,530
My name's Colin Bookman. I'm one of only a handful of Jews I personally know who live in East Palo Alto.

797
01:17:13,190 --> 01:17:16,770
And some of us are here tonight because this issue affects our daily lives.

798
01:17:17,410 --> 01:17:23,770
I'm first off grateful for the city council, for the police, and most importantly, the neighbors.

799
01:17:24,230 --> 01:17:30,070
When I put up my tonic decorations, my family were afraid. They said, you should take them down.

800
01:17:30,070 --> 01:17:35,450
Someone might hurt your kids. My friends, the broad, they said you should buy a gun.

801
01:17:36,670 --> 01:17:43,910
My family story has cross borders, Belarus, France, Canada, where I was born, and now my children born here in America.

802
01:17:45,030 --> 01:17:46,330
Zionism predates Israel.

803
01:17:47,030 --> 01:17:50,770
You can criticize this really government without being anti-Semitic.

804
01:17:51,490 --> 01:17:57,850
But to deny Jewish self-determination or Jews, making answer, I mean, I've been Jews answer for what Israel does.

805
01:17:57,850 --> 01:18:07,330
Cross is a line. This is not abstract. Our local schools. There was a statement made by a teacher. How many Jews fit in an ash tray?

806
01:18:08,310 --> 01:18:12,230
Thank you. Next speaker Mike Sanford followed by Brian.

807
01:18:18,150 --> 01:18:21,790
Oh, my name is Mike Sanford. I'm a husband and father of four

808
01:18:23,350 --> 01:18:28,150
I'm here to have you vote again against the population as it stands today

809
01:18:28,150 --> 01:18:37,090
I am an American and I find the first amendment, the Crown Jewel of our system, and I don't want to undermine that.

810
01:18:37,470 --> 01:18:45,570
We have 39 states right now that there are laws against criticizing Israel, and I find that very problematic.

811
01:18:46,910 --> 01:18:55,410
As a parent, the world that we live in, where our children don't have the freedoms that I did at the child, I find very problematic.

812
01:18:55,410 --> 01:18:59,690
And I would just tell them that we all don't want our children to live in that same world.

813
01:19:01,390 --> 01:19:04,170
As he questions, it's not hate.

814
01:19:04,870 --> 01:19:08,070
Tell him that truth is not hate.

815
01:19:09,170 --> 01:19:16,710
I'm trying to find a mind who's used to come today because he was afraid to speak up as I am because of the repercussions.

816
01:19:16,970 --> 01:19:18,630
And that's the role that I think we all agree with.

817
01:19:18,770 --> 01:19:19,550
We don't want to live in.

818
01:19:19,670 --> 01:19:20,150
Thank you.

819
01:19:20,190 --> 01:19:21,410
Thank you.

820
01:19:21,410 --> 01:19:24,790
Ryan, well, by Sammy and Stuart Ireland,

821
01:19:27,150 --> 01:19:30,590
instead of fighting anti-Semitism, the I.A.H.R.A. definition

822
01:19:30,590 --> 01:19:35,590
complays to Judaism with a genocidal settler colony and engages in anti-Palestinian racism.

823
01:19:35,950 --> 01:19:40,010
Its silences are Palestinian community members from morning, their cousins, uncles, aunts

824
01:19:40,010 --> 01:19:44,310
and friends, like Mito, Saraj, and many more, may they rest in paradise.

825
01:19:44,730 --> 01:19:49,310
Its silences them, from naming those who killed them, Israel has carried out genocides since

826
01:19:49,310 --> 01:19:53,490
In 1948, when it killed 15,000 Palestinians and pushed 75,

827
01:19:54,110 --> 01:19:56,570
750,000 Palestinians out of their homes,

828
01:19:56,630 --> 01:19:58,950
including 85% of those living on land

829
01:19:58,950 --> 01:20:00,050
that Israel then occupied.

830
01:20:00,390 --> 01:20:02,050
Instead of a bill that conflates Judaism

831
01:20:02,050 --> 01:20:03,710
with a genocidal settler colony,

832
01:20:04,110 --> 01:20:06,430
we should have a bill to fight anti-Palestinian racism

833
01:20:06,430 --> 01:20:10,130
and denial of the Gaza genocide happening before our eyes.

834
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,980
Like Speaker Sammy, followed by Stuart Ireland.

835
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:26,220
And as someone who grows to me about East Palo Alto,

836
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:30,120
I'm here to oppose the adoption of the I-H-R-A definition.

837
01:20:30,480 --> 01:20:32,580
Definition of anti-Semitism in the city,

838
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,800
which inflate criticism of his real Buddhism of the Jewish people.

839
01:20:36,380 --> 01:20:40,180
I have family in Gaza, and the last presence of relatives in Gaza,

840
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:43,460
in the fact that I cannot call out the government that kept them,

841
01:20:43,480 --> 01:20:45,480
but when the label is hate speech is ridiculous.

842
01:20:46,580 --> 01:20:48,680
I-H-R-A definition was something dangerous.

843
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:54,200
It weaponizes the fight against bigotry to silence legitimate criticism of its role in state policies,

844
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:59,860
controlling its anti-Zionism or criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism in its definition,

845
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:03,880
in its censorship background in safety.

846
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:11,620
Instead, it first focus on the work that the Jews and Palestinians, which is racist hate,

847
01:21:11,620 --> 01:21:18,460
same thing, but in fact, I can bound when communities were, same thing, that's empowered in the life of us right now.

848
01:21:20,410 --> 01:21:22,350
Thank you, next speaker, Stuart Highland.

849
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:30,660
My name is Stuart Highland and I live 124 as a drive.

850
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:34,280
I want to speak against accepting this.

851
01:21:34,460 --> 01:21:36,560
The first proclamation made sense.

852
01:21:36,860 --> 01:21:39,760
We want to value all the cultures and the values.

853
01:21:40,260 --> 01:21:42,940
And I very much appreciate the ally ship in the past.

854
01:21:42,940 --> 01:21:51,960
But just like most people in this room, I'm sure I would not want to be tainted with what my government is doing at this time.

855
01:21:52,820 --> 01:21:54,740
So we want to be clear about separating.

856
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,900
I think the IHRA definitely does not provide that.

857
01:21:57,980 --> 01:22:00,980
There's been credit criticism on both sides about this issue.

858
01:22:01,380 --> 01:22:06,860
But we've seen it happen as schools like Columbia where folks protest, which is their right to protest,

859
01:22:07,180 --> 01:22:10,980
and all of a sudden they're being evicted from the United States of America.

860
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:18,180
Just for speaking up, you need to recognize your role in this and we've always been for the

861
01:22:18,180 --> 01:22:20,320
Underdog, we've always represented culture.

862
01:22:20,940 --> 01:22:23,280
Be thoughtful about how you take your next step.

863
01:22:23,780 --> 01:22:25,500
Thank you.

864
01:22:25,820 --> 01:22:27,920
Thank you and those are our last speaker for this item.

865
01:22:29,740 --> 01:22:30,360
Thank you.

866
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:33,120
So, do we have any comments in Council?

867
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:34,060
Can

868
01:22:39,020 --> 01:22:47,560
we get the actually reading the proclamation and get the actual details if somebody from staff actually read it so we can all hear it?

869
01:23:02,030 --> 01:23:04,530
More precisely the IHRA side of

870
01:23:09,070 --> 01:23:09,890
it.

871
01:23:10,030 --> 01:23:15,350
Yeah, if you could, I guess not the proclamation so much as the IHRA.

872
01:23:16,750 --> 01:23:19,030
It's a short one page.

873
01:23:20,010 --> 01:23:21,390
Two pages.

874
01:23:23,820 --> 01:23:29,260
through the chair. So, Councilmember Dunning, you're talking about the attachment to the

875
01:23:29,260 --> 01:23:35,700
Proclamation. The two measures? Yeah, I mean, yes, the in the spirit of the Stockholm Declaration

876
01:23:35,700 --> 01:23:37,360
starts with that.

877
01:23:39,970 --> 01:23:44,230
You have it, you just own it. In the spirit of the Stockholm Declaration

878
01:23:44,230 --> 01:23:51,210
that states, with humanity still scarred by anti-Semitism and xenophobia, the international

879
01:23:51,210 --> 01:23:56,830
community share as a solemn responsibility fight those evils. The Committee on Anti-Semitism

880
01:23:56,830 --> 01:24:04,690
and Holocaust denial called the I-H-R-A plenary and Budapest 2015 to adopt the following working

881
01:24:04,690 --> 01:24:08,390
definition of anti-Semitism. On May 26,

882
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:17,660
2016, on 2016, the plenary and book arrest decided to

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01:24:17,660 --> 01:24:39,500
adopt the following non-legal binding working definition of anti-symmatism. Anti-symmatism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews, rhetorical and physical manifestations of anti-symmatism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and or their property.

884
01:24:40,420 --> 01:24:43,800
towards Jewish community institutions and religious facilities.

885
01:24:47,350 --> 01:24:51,370
To guide IHRA and its work, the following examples may serve as illustrations.

886
01:24:52,570 --> 01:24:55,590
Manifestations might include the targeting of the state of Israel,

887
01:24:55,950 --> 01:24:57,470
conceived as a Jewish collectivity.

888
01:24:58,090 --> 01:25:02,910
However, criticism of Israel, similar to that level against any other country,

889
01:25:03,190 --> 01:25:05,490
cannot be regarded as anti-Semitic.

890
01:25:06,450 --> 01:25:07,170
Sematic.

891
01:25:07,870 --> 01:25:15,550
Antisemitism frequently charges Jews with conspiring to harm humanity, and it is often used to blame Jews for why things go wrong.

892
01:25:16,250 --> 01:25:23,870
It is expressed in speech, writing, visual forms and action, and employees sinister stereotypes and negative character traits.

893
01:25:25,090 --> 01:25:30,950
Contemporary examples of anti-Semitism in public life, the media, schools, the workplace,

894
01:25:31,850 --> 01:25:38,250
and in the religious sphere could take into account the overall context include, but are not

895
01:25:38,250 --> 01:25:45,210
limited to, calling for, hating or justifying and killing or harming of Jews in a name of radical

896
01:25:45,210 --> 01:25:52,970
ideology or an extremist view of religion, making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing or

897
01:25:52,970 --> 01:25:59,890
stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective, such as,

898
01:25:59,890 --> 01:26:07,150
especially, but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling

899
01:26:07,150 --> 01:26:11,610
the media, economy, government, or other societal institutions.

900
01:26:13,330 --> 01:26:18,750
Cusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed

901
01:26:18,750 --> 01:26:26,610
by a single Jewish person or group, or even for ex-committed by non-Jews, denying the fact

902
01:26:26,610 --> 01:26:32,210
scope mechanisms, for example, gas chambers or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish

903
01:26:32,210 --> 01:26:37,510
people at the hands of National Socialist Germany, and its supporters and accomplices

904
01:26:37,510 --> 01:26:43,770
doing World War II the Holocaust, accusing the Jews as a people or Israel as a state of

905
01:26:43,770 --> 01:26:49,750
inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust, accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel,

906
01:26:50,150 --> 01:26:55,210
or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide than to the interests of their own nations.

907
01:26:56,110 --> 01:27:01,110
Denying Jewish people that write to self-determination, for example, by claiming that the existence of

908
01:27:01,110 --> 01:27:07,470
a state of Israel is a racist endeavor, applying double standards by requiring a behavior that

909
01:27:07,470 --> 01:27:13,750
not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation. Using the symbols and images associated

910
01:27:13,750 --> 01:27:19,050
with classic anti-Semitism, for example, claims of Jews killing Jesus, or blood, liberal,

911
01:27:19,410 --> 01:27:26,830
libel, to characterize Israel or Israelis. Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy

912
01:27:26,830 --> 01:27:32,390
to that of the Nazis, holding the Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state

913
01:27:32,390 --> 01:27:38,450
of Israel. Anti-Semitic acts are criminal when they are so defined by law, for example,

914
01:27:38,830 --> 01:27:43,370
denial of Holocaust, or distribution of anti-Semitic materials in some countries.

915
01:27:43,750 --> 01:28:00,690
Criminal acts are anti-Semitic when the targets of attacks, whether they are people, or property, such as buildings, schools, places of worship and cemeteries, are selected because they are or are perceived to be Jewish or linked to Jews.

916
01:28:01,690 --> 01:28:11,770
Anti-Semitic discrimination is the denial to Jews of opportunities or services available to others and is illegal in many countries.

917
01:28:11,770 --> 01:28:13,910
That is the end.

918
01:28:15,990 --> 01:28:16,390
Thank you.

919
01:28:17,330 --> 01:28:20,850
I have a question for city attorney John May.

920
01:28:21,510 --> 01:28:23,310
John, if we pass this, what are the legal?

921
01:28:23,650 --> 01:28:24,730
It says it's non-binding.

922
01:28:25,350 --> 01:28:27,290
What does this actually mean for the city?

923
01:28:30,340 --> 01:28:31,340
Because it's not binding.

924
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:34,620
It doesn't have any impact on any particular policy now.

925
01:28:35,020 --> 01:28:40,040
I think the proclamation makes clear that it is to guide future policy.

926
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:43,820
So if there is a future policy that is impacted by this definition,

927
01:28:43,820 --> 01:28:53,360
that may or may not happen at a future date, but the proclamation in and of itself is not a policy that would be impacted by the definition.

928
01:28:53,900 --> 01:28:54,960
It is nearly a proclamation.

929
01:28:56,180 --> 01:29:02,920
Okay, so it's largely symbolic and we're saying as a council, you know, we're making a statement against anti-Semitism.

930
01:29:07,940 --> 01:29:11,580
I think it's, it's used for all mixed in comments now with the mayor's permission.

931
01:29:12,380 --> 01:29:17,220
You know, the Jewish community in the United States far predates Israel and anti-Semitism

932
01:29:17,220 --> 01:29:23,200
far predates, you know, goes back centuries, if not millennia.

933
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:26,040
I support this resolution.

934
01:29:27,060 --> 01:29:34,780
I also support the right of anybody to criticize Israel, I support, I certainly do not support

935
01:29:34,780 --> 01:29:36,520
the current Israeli government personally.

936
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:54,340
And I don't see this resolution in any way stopping people who have legitimate concerns like myself and many of the people I know, including Jewish family members who really could not despise the current Israeli government more.

937
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:56,500
This is about Jews in the United States.

938
01:29:56,540 --> 01:29:59,800
It's not about resolving the Israeli...

939
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:25,680
As a conflict, we're not going to do that tonight. I absolutely see both sides of that conflict and it's a tragedy and when October 7th happened, I personally was horrified because I knew it would unleash the absolute worst aspects of Israeli military onto civilian people who were largely not responsible for what happened.

940
01:30:29,620 --> 01:30:32,400
We've seen anti-Semitism in East Palo Alto.

941
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:35,620
I'm happy to support this resolution.

942
01:30:37,380 --> 01:30:40,820
This was not on my Bingo card or something we were going to be discussing tonight

943
01:30:40,820 --> 01:30:43,740
or it was going to be an issue in front of Council.

944
01:30:44,440 --> 01:30:49,320
But it would be remiss at this moment for me not to say that I support a statement against anti-Semitism.

945
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:54,900
We are one of many cities who have done this.

946
01:30:54,900 --> 01:30:58,520
just to read off a few,

947
01:31:01,150 --> 01:31:04,590
this shouldn't be controversial when you have San Diego, Los Angeles,

948
01:31:04,870 --> 01:31:12,730
Chula Vista, El Cajón, New York City, and lots of other municipalities, 35 states, Arizona,

949
01:31:13,150 --> 01:31:17,030
Nevada, New York, Texas, Florida. They've already adopted and recognized this definition

950
01:31:17,030 --> 01:31:24,370
through legislation or executive action. I don't think adopting this in any way will limit

951
01:31:25,030 --> 01:31:30,690
people's criticism, criticism of the state of Israel. It's about Jews and America.

952
01:31:31,630 --> 01:31:38,170
I think a lot of people in this room, because they are explicitly calling for a Palestinian

953
01:31:38,170 --> 01:31:45,550
from the river to the sea, are upset with this because that is explicitly anti-Semitic to say

954
01:31:45,550 --> 01:31:49,990
that you're calling for the wiping out of the state of Israel.

955
01:31:52,290 --> 01:31:54,210
And it's obvious that there's

956
01:31:54,210 --> 01:32:01,730
lot of debate about that, but I think one of the reasons why people in this room are against

957
01:32:01,730 --> 01:32:09,830
this is when you've been consistently making anti-Semitic proclamations. When there's something

958
01:32:09,830 --> 01:32:15,770
like this saying, no, this is the framework of which we're analyzing it. I mean, it's non-binding,

959
01:32:15,770 --> 01:32:21,050
It's internationally recognized, and what's called, let's call it, let's call it antisemitism.

960
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:30,200
And the other point is that having talked to Jewish members of the community, and I do have Jewish family,

961
01:32:30,700 --> 01:32:36,080
I'm not Jewish myself, but I have, you know, cousin, second cousin, my grandfather was Jewish, my mom's.

962
01:32:37,060 --> 01:32:43,000
You know, the antisemitism faced in the United States is real, it's increasing, and people rightly feel at risk.

963
01:32:43,820 --> 01:32:50,920
I'd also say that, you know, we stand against Islamophobia, that's not on the agenda tonight,

964
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:57,920
but we're absolutely, as a community tonight, we're saying symbolically, because this does not

965
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:03,660
have any real teeth in it, that we are making anti-Semitism proclamation.

966
01:33:04,500 --> 01:33:10,040
So I support this. I don't see it as infringing on people's first amendment rights.

967
01:33:10,580 --> 01:33:17,340
And, you know, in a world that's increasingly under-conflict, you know, for tribal,

968
01:33:19,660 --> 01:33:28,340
and, you know, extremely heated arguments, you know, the, I think we have to be clear about where we stand.

969
01:33:28,340 --> 01:33:35,220
Only bit with this, I'm not sure how much being on city council on East Palo Alto is going to move to need a lot on any of these things.

970
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:47,160
In terms of why I joined council, it was to work on parks, it was to work on issues like getting the streets paved and improving the parking situation and all these other quality of life issues.

971
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:49,460
Making East Palo Alto a better place for everybody.

972
01:33:50,500 --> 01:33:55,140
That being said, I would be remiss if I didn't clearly state where I stand on this issue.

973
01:33:55,140 --> 01:33:58,820
And I do support the Iowa Anti-Semitism Proclamation.

974
01:33:59,440 --> 01:34:00,140
Thank you.

975
01:34:14,540 --> 01:34:14,980
Thank you.

976
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:16,620
Do we have any of

977
01:34:21,740 --> 01:34:25,840
the comments from council members on this?

978
01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:27,320
Yeah, I guess I'll go next.

979
01:34:28,860 --> 01:34:34,580
First of all, I want to recognize from my brothers and sisters on both sides,

980
01:34:34,980 --> 01:34:39,580
that being that this issue brings to all of us and all of you.

981
01:34:40,580 --> 01:34:43,080
I mean, clearly there's a difference of opinion on this issue.

982
01:34:44,500 --> 01:34:50,460
I also want to state that I did not hear tonight, anyone on either side, if they are

983
01:34:50,460 --> 01:34:57,960
denying the existence of Israel, or did I hear folks saying anti-Semitic comments?

984
01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:06,080
I think the opposition, if you want to say the opposition to this resolution, stated its

985
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:15,460
quite clearly, and the very division that we see today that's engendered by the RH, excuse me,

986
01:35:16,420 --> 01:35:25,820
I, R, H, I, H, N, that's why the cost, R, H, R, A resolution is probably a reason why we should

987
01:35:25,820 --> 01:35:32,080
notify this resolution that I would be in support of if you removed.

988
01:35:34,480 --> 01:35:44,640
Pergus 5, 6, 7, and 8, and 9, then indeed directly address what is a contentious

989
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:52,560
definition that is not accepted worldwide, and I remind you all that if it's not a political

990
01:35:52,560 --> 01:36:01,160
definition, why would some like Mike Pompeo attempt to weaponize it against two internationally

991
01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:04,580
recognized entities, human rights, and amnesty international,

992
01:36:06,730 --> 01:36:08,090
to say that they are anti-Semitic?

993
01:36:10,130 --> 01:36:13,310
I don't believe that there are people in this room that are anti-Semitic. I certainly

994
01:36:13,310 --> 01:36:20,370
am not. I do not deny the existence of the state of Israel. It is a fact. It is there.

995
01:36:21,650 --> 01:36:32,910
But the right for people to criticize state actions, not the people in Israel, but state actions should be sacrosanct.

996
01:36:34,190 --> 01:36:42,870
And any definition that potentially puts that right in danger should be rejected.

997
01:36:43,870 --> 01:36:51,210
Not as a rejection, not as a rejection of Jews around the world, Jews in this country, or for

998
01:36:51,210 --> 01:36:53,430
that matter, it's a rejection of Israel.

999
01:36:55,030 --> 01:37:01,490
This date is the one that is staying in this calamity, it is not its inhabitants necessarily.

1000
01:37:02,550 --> 01:37:05,510
So again, I would be in support of this resolution.

1001
01:37:05,510 --> 01:37:13,710
If we removed those references to the I-H-E-R-A definition.

1002
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:18,740
Thank you.

1003
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:20,480
Do we have any additional comments?

1004
01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:27,260
Martha, do you have any comments?

1005
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:29,420
No.

1006
01:37:30,580 --> 01:37:30,720
Okay.

1007
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:31,020
Yes, Father.

1008
01:37:36,030 --> 01:37:39,490
Yes, so thank you everyone for expressing your views.

1009
01:37:39,490 --> 01:37:47,850
And I was like, there's a lot of passion on both sides, over all I think has been very respectful

1010
01:37:47,850 --> 01:37:48,850
discussion.

1011
01:37:50,050 --> 01:37:55,890
You know, I want to start up by saying that I'm a direct descendant of people on this

1012
01:37:55,890 --> 01:38:05,570
continent who suffer the massive genocide by the Europeans and the name of their gods and

1013
01:38:05,570 --> 01:38:11,070
the name of the religion and their name of their kings and their name of whatever.

1014
01:38:15,310 --> 01:38:22,450
So, you know, I grew up with that sense of, there's one of the speakers said, looking

1015
01:38:22,450 --> 01:38:32,530
up for the underdog, looking out for the people who are most vulnerable at any time,

1016
01:38:32,530 --> 01:38:41,530
in any place under different circumstances because as human beings, I think we're very clever and

1017
01:38:42,330 --> 01:38:45,610
very devious and we always hide.

1018
01:38:47,090 --> 01:38:53,240
We hide behind the suffering that we inflict on others.

1019
01:38:54,560 --> 01:39:00,420
And we act like we're some kind of divine creature that is better than others.

1020
01:39:01,420 --> 01:39:04,380
Now, locally in this Palo Alto,

1021
01:39:06,820 --> 01:39:16,180
you know, I've lived here 46 years and always have been involved in the community and I have learned from those who came before me.

1022
01:39:16,340 --> 01:39:28,340
I'm not pretty old, but I've seen many people here from many backgrounds, particularly from the African American community, from the Latino community, from all communities.

1023
01:39:28,340 --> 01:39:34,080
you know, turns out, you know, all kinds of people have been around you for a long time.

1024
01:39:34,820 --> 01:39:40,660
All kinds of people. And everyone came from somewhere, other than the indigenous alone,

1025
01:39:40,660 --> 01:39:51,620
people. And even they migrated here 5, 10,000 years ago, right? So, I, I'm not,

1026
01:39:58,280 --> 01:39:58,320
well, the

1027
01:39:58,320 --> 01:39:59,280
Recently,

1028
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:09,380
one of the highest increases in hate actions and hate speech has been against Mexican people.

1029
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:11,280
There we go again.

1030
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:14,220
It's not the first time against Latinos.

1031
01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:24,100
You know, millions of our people were so called deported, even though most of them were US citizens.

1032
01:40:24,460 --> 01:40:29,020
Millions of people were US citizens in this country and they were deported by the US government.

1033
01:40:29,020 --> 01:40:32,140
especially when things get rough, get tough.

1034
01:40:32,980 --> 01:40:36,680
The federal government seems to try to instigate hatred among people.

1035
01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:41,320
Polarizing words, polarizing actions, polarizing history.

1036
01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:45,080
That's what's going on with our Trump people right now.

1037
01:40:46,660 --> 01:40:50,980
So, you know, language can be tricky too.

1038
01:40:53,710 --> 01:40:54,310
So,

1039
01:40:56,570 --> 01:41:00,010
we just passed the proclamation and I mentioned it, I'll say it again.

1040
01:41:00,650 --> 01:41:05,290
What I was mayor was the first time that we passed the Jewish heritage month

1041
01:41:05,290 --> 01:41:06,050
proclamation.

1042
01:41:08,180 --> 01:41:14,300
But I am not in support of this for the reasons that, you know,

1043
01:41:14,300 --> 01:41:18,740
safety in our community, sick and certain for everyone. So if any member of the

1044
01:41:18,740 --> 01:41:22,260
Jewish community in this part of fields unsafe, they need to talk to our chief right

1045
01:41:22,260 --> 01:41:28,560
now, some people in my community in Mexican community also feel very unsafe. So we

1046
01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:37,180
need to stake together and fight against, yes, in security, like a public safety, hatred

1047
01:41:37,180 --> 01:41:40,360
whoever is saying it to whoever else.

1048
01:41:41,060 --> 01:41:48,260
These, you know, it's very ironic to me that if this is supposed to be something that

1049
01:41:48,260 --> 01:41:53,340
somehow fights some kind of hatred, it's starting to generate a lot of tension and a lot

1050
01:41:53,340 --> 01:41:59,100
polarizing talk, which is exactly what is happening in our country and I am not going to support

1051
01:41:59,100 --> 01:42:02,560
that kind of stuff. I don't care if it comes to my own community.

1052
01:42:04,820 --> 01:42:08,720
So again, right here in

1053
01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:20,800
this fall also yes, I have seen and I have heard anti black hatred, anti Mexican hatred, et cetera,

1054
01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:22,900
etc. Anti-Spanish-speaking hatred.

1055
01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:28,680
So I'm not going to tolerate anti-Jewish hatred. I can tell

1056
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:33,740
you that. I am not going to tolerate anti-Palestinian hatred. I'm not going to tell it any kind

1057
01:42:33,740 --> 01:42:39,980
of hatred. And if we want to get into international, you know, international and history and

1058
01:42:39,980 --> 01:42:45,400
stuff, let's, you know, let's have a panel discussion and talk about those things. What have we

1059
01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:49,740
learned? Have we learned anything? Or are we just back trying to recreate the same kind of madness

1060
01:42:49,740 --> 01:42:51,080
that has happened in the past.

1061
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:55,540
So I am not interested in passing this

1062
01:42:55,540 --> 01:42:57,280
for a commission for those reasons.

1063
01:42:58,300 --> 01:43:01,440
I am interested in continuing, again, as a speaker said,

1064
01:43:01,700 --> 01:43:03,840
we recognize all the different communities

1065
01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:06,080
in this part of the world that we have over the years.

1066
01:43:07,060 --> 01:43:10,940
And if we have not included some group that we can do that,

1067
01:43:11,140 --> 01:43:12,980
but I'm not going to get into this

1068
01:43:12,980 --> 01:43:16,880
politics in locally also just to create some kind of,

1069
01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:17,500
I don't know what.

1070
01:43:17,500 --> 01:43:24,360
So for that reason, you know, with all the respect, I think that anti-Semitism needs to be

1071
01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:31,120
fought on its own grounds, anti-Mexicanism needs to be fought, anti-Black efforts, anti-women,

1072
01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:32,020
anti-Semitism.

1073
01:43:32,020 --> 01:43:36,420
There's a lot of anti-stuff that we can all work together on, and that's what I'm interested

1074
01:43:36,420 --> 01:43:42,280
in, not not a proclamation this, and frankly I also thought it was going to be something

1075
01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:47,480
that we would just be discussing first and whatever not already have a proclamation here.

1076
01:43:47,480 --> 01:43:49,720
all, you know, with this situation.

1077
01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:53,280
So, yeah, thank you, that's all I need to say for now.

1078
01:43:53,660 --> 01:43:54,280
Thank you.

1079
01:43:59,240 --> 01:43:59,840
Sit on

1080
01:44:01,960 --> 01:44:02,900
me.

1081
01:44:03,420 --> 01:44:06,640
So, council members, neighbors, you know,

1082
01:44:07,900 --> 01:44:10,860
and in 1958, Dr. Martin Luther King addressed

1083
01:44:10,860 --> 01:44:13,960
the American Jewish Congress, and he said this,

1084
01:44:14,500 --> 01:44:17,040
my people were bought to America and Shans.

1085
01:44:17,660 --> 01:44:18,720
Your people were driven here

1086
01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:21,380
to escape Shans, Fashans for them in Europe.

1087
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:28,400
Our unity is born in our common struggle for centuries, not only to rid ourselves of bondage,

1088
01:44:28,580 --> 01:44:32,400
but to make a pressure of any people by others in impossibility.

1089
01:44:33,660 --> 01:44:37,360
This is the spirit in which I bring this on Proclamation Forward.

1090
01:44:38,060 --> 01:44:42,500
I bring it forward at a moment when anti-Semitic violence in this country is not abstract.

1091
01:44:43,340 --> 01:44:50,540
Anti-Jewish hate crimes have for years made up the largest share of religion-based hate crimes reported to the FBI.

1092
01:44:50,540 --> 01:44:58,120
In March of this year, an Army attacker drove a vehicle into Temple Israel and West Bloomfield, Michigan.

1093
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,480
With the state intent to kill Jews.

1094
01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:09,080
Synagogue's Jewish schools, Jewish students have faced the rats and attacks across this country.

1095
01:45:10,020 --> 01:45:12,640
And these politics are not separate from that country.

1096
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:16,260
You saw Jewish neighbors are not separate from that fear.

1097
01:45:17,620 --> 01:45:21,200
When a community is being targeted, the wrong response is silence.

1098
01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:28,980
The proclamation in front of us names anti-Semitism and rejects it.

1099
01:45:28,980 --> 01:45:36,320
It adopts the IRA working definition explicitly as a non-binding educational and analytical framework,

1100
01:45:36,900 --> 01:45:43,160
not as a speech code, not as a regulation, and not as a test for who speaks at this

1101
01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:50,600
dies, or who receives a city contract. It affirms the first amendment by name. It states

1102
01:45:50,600 --> 01:45:56,640
that nothing in it shall be construed to diminish constitutionally protected speech.

1103
01:45:57,860 --> 01:46:03,420
Criticism of any government, including Israeli government, remains fully protected in the city.

1104
01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:07,920
Advocacy for Palestinian human rights remains fully protected in the city.

1105
01:46:08,700 --> 01:46:13,600
None of that is anti-Semitism, and nothing in this proclamation says otherwise.

1106
01:46:15,220 --> 01:46:19,580
Some of us, whether this proclamation is intentioned with East Palo Alto traditions,

1107
01:46:20,180 --> 01:46:25,900
our ceasefire resolution, our stand against the part tied in South Africa, our solidarity with people,

1108
01:46:25,900 --> 01:46:37,240
under occupation. It is not. A city that condemns the suffering of civilians in Gaza is a city that can also condemn the killing of Jews in Michigan.

1109
01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:44,340
These are not the same. These are the same commitment and not competing ones.

1110
01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:52,960
I've heard the call from neighbors to also speak clearly against Islamophobia, anti-Arab, anti-Palestinian discrimination and not shared.

1111
01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:58,320
Standing against one form of hate does not require silence about out any other form.

1112
01:46:58,820 --> 01:47:01,720
And I'm committed to bring that work forward.

1113
01:47:02,660 --> 01:47:08,760
This is Dr. King and the ALGC understood something we should not forget tonight.

1114
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:17,680
The safety of one community is not bound with the safety of one community is bound up with

1115
01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:19,320
the safety of every other.

1116
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:24,320
This is what the proclamation is for, and I ask my colleagues to support it.

1117
01:47:25,300 --> 01:47:26,180
Thank you.

1118
01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:39,420
So, if there's no additional comments I would like to entertain a motion.

1119
01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:48,340
I would like to make a motion.

1120
01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:54,460
I'd like to make a motion that if we do approve this, we remove the warehouse statement.

1121
01:47:54,460 --> 01:48:06,640
5, 6, 7, 8, and the further pro-clean statement 9, all referring to the IHRA working definition.

1122
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:11,860
I think affirming our commitment to combat anti-Semitism is important at the same time.

1123
01:48:11,920 --> 01:48:19,460
We should also be familiar commitment to combat anti-Muslim anti-Arab, anti-Latino discrimination,

1124
01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:22,460
but in this case we are dealing with this anti-Semitism.

1125
01:48:22,460 --> 01:48:31,140
So that would be my my motion. Can you read off the paragraphs you want to strike well as effective prevention monitoring

1126
01:48:32,160 --> 01:48:42,020
And response required clear and consistent definitions and frameworks and whereas in May 2016 the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance

1127
01:48:42,020 --> 01:48:49,020
I got through the working definition of anti-Semitism which could become an internationally recognized framework by 42 governments out of

1128
01:48:49,020 --> 01:48:54,400
in 195 governments, used by governments and institutions worldwide,

1129
01:48:55,280 --> 01:49:01,000
whereas the IHRA working definition of anti-Semitism provides practical guidance

1130
01:49:01,000 --> 01:49:05,320
for identifying contemporary manifestations of anti-Semitism,

1131
01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:08,720
and has been widely adopted and utilized by federal agencies,

1132
01:49:09,380 --> 01:49:12,580
states, municipalities, and law enforcement bodies across the country.

1133
01:49:12,580 --> 01:49:20,020
where as the use of the IHR, a working definition of anti-Semitism as an educational and

1134
01:49:20,020 --> 01:49:25,640
analytical tool does not infringe upon rights protected under the first amendment of the United

1135
01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:31,400
States Constitution and then the other item would be, be it further resolved that the CDVs

1136
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:38,800
parallel supports the use of the IHR, a working definition of anti-Semitism as a non-binding

1137
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:45,240
educational and analytical framework to help guide municipal training policy

1138
01:49:45,240 --> 01:49:47,620
development and awareness efforts.

1139
01:49:54,400 --> 01:49:58,500
Do we have a second for that motion or I'd like to make an alternative motion?

1140
01:50:02,270 --> 01:50:15,210
I mean, I, well, you know, such data before, we're sort of getting into, I don't know what to call it,

1141
01:50:18,340 --> 01:50:29,680
If there was an anti-hatred statement to cover everybody, in other words, we're going to have to be passing one of these every single meeting.

1142
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:36,200
Every single meeting. People are persecuted, people are attacked for different reasons.

1143
01:50:36,600 --> 01:50:43,120
The color of their skin, their religion, their language, their history, their gender,

1144
01:50:44,160 --> 01:50:45,900
And I stated before,

1145
01:50:49,120 --> 01:50:53,540
to my last day, I will stand against injustice and for the underdog.

1146
01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:57,160
But the face of the oppressor always changes.

1147
01:51:00,290 --> 01:51:08,170
And so, you know, I meant I hate anti hatred to any group, including Jewish community.

1148
01:51:09,210 --> 01:51:15,790
But you know, this kind of stuff that we're doing here is trying to get the rabbit hole of, you know,

1149
01:51:17,090 --> 01:51:19,790
policy, politics, et cetera, et cetera.

1150
01:51:20,450 --> 01:51:22,470
And I don't think this is really going to help bring people

1151
01:51:22,470 --> 01:51:23,870
together, unfortunately.

1152
01:51:25,050 --> 01:51:27,270
It's too bad, but that just the way it is.

1153
01:51:27,550 --> 01:51:29,690
So I'm not in support of really of anything

1154
01:51:30,250 --> 01:51:31,610
that goes in this direction.

1155
01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:34,840
All right.

1156
01:51:37,220 --> 01:51:40,480
So I guess we have a motion, and I haven't heard a second

1157
01:51:40,480 --> 01:51:44,180
on that motion, but I would like to make an alternative motion

1158
01:51:44,180 --> 01:51:48,460
that we had adopted the resolution as it's written.

1159
01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:50,660
Also, I can.

1160
01:51:52,850 --> 01:51:55,450
Can we get a roll call vote?

1161
01:51:56,690 --> 01:51:57,710
Mayor Lincoln?

1162
01:51:59,110 --> 01:51:59,990
Vice Mayor Brickham?

1163
01:52:00,550 --> 01:52:00,810
No.

1164
01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:07,120
Can some member butter gun?

1165
01:52:09,020 --> 01:52:09,280
Yes.

1166
01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:10,660
Can some member dining?

1167
01:52:10,900 --> 01:52:11,260
Yes.

1168
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:12,680
Can some member Romero?

1169
01:52:13,100 --> 01:52:13,340
No.

1170
01:52:14,640 --> 01:52:15,380
Motion carries.

1171
01:52:16,620 --> 01:52:17,300
Thank you.

1172
01:52:17,300 --> 01:52:20,420
will be proceeding on to the next agenda item.

1173
01:52:20,600 --> 01:52:21,300
This is.

1174
01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:25,560
I will be there.

1175
01:52:25,860 --> 01:52:26,620
Follow the results.

1176
01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:29,260
Follow the application.

1177
01:52:29,980 --> 01:52:31,100
We're going to call it recess.

1178
01:59:22,730 --> 01:59:24,150
I'm active in that commercial.

1179
01:59:24,650 --> 01:59:27,310
We will amend the gender so that we can go to closed session.

1180
01:59:27,570 --> 01:59:28,310
I second.

1181
01:59:29,010 --> 01:59:29,270
All right.

1182
01:59:29,450 --> 01:59:29,650
We follow.

1183
01:59:34,190 --> 01:59:35,230
We have.

1184
01:59:35,230 --> 01:59:35,790
Mayor Lincoln.

1185
01:59:36,510 --> 01:59:37,030
Yes.

1186
01:59:37,550 --> 01:59:38,590
Vice Mayor Brico.

1187
01:59:40,590 --> 01:59:41,290
Vice Mayor Brico.

1188
02:00:00,980 --> 02:00:05,640
Councilmember Dining. Yes. Councilmember Baraghan.

1189
02:00:08,890 --> 02:00:13,770
Councilmember Romero. That's in. Motion carries.

1190
02:42:31,340 --> 02:42:34,100
I'm going to carve a meeting that's a order.

1191
02:42:38,120 --> 02:42:40,980
We are calling this meeting back to order.

1192
02:42:42,000 --> 02:42:44,800
I'd like to request that,

1193
02:43:08,860 --> 02:43:15,140
I'd like to request that we, that we proceed with this meeting.

1194
02:43:16,820 --> 02:43:24,260
I'm issuing a warning that you guys are disrupting the meeting and I'd request that you guys

1195
02:43:25,180 --> 02:43:30,120
respect the chair and to quiet down so that we can proceed with this meeting.

1196
02:43:44,150 --> 02:43:46,970
This is the second warning I'm going to issue on this matter.

1197
02:43:48,310 --> 02:43:53,890
I would like to ask that you guys a lawyer reverses so that we can proceed with this meeting.

1198
02:44:16,200 --> 02:44:33,320
Okay, I would like to invite a motion to, I wish you two warnings asking this group of individuals at the council meeting to lower their voices and not continue to disrupt the meeting.

1199
02:44:33,720 --> 02:44:37,840
I would like to entertain a motion to clear the room.

1200
02:44:40,860 --> 02:44:41,300
Okay,

1201
02:44:43,700 --> 02:44:45,840
I'm glad to be there, we're all kind of out.

1202
02:45:01,480 --> 02:45:09,280
We're taking a roll call, Mayor Lincoln. Yes. Vice Mayor Brickham,

1203
02:45:31,510 --> 02:45:34,090
we've got a successful call in the world.

1204
02:45:56,100 --> 02:46:01,080
Mayor Lincoln, yes. Council member Bargon,

1205
02:46:03,680 --> 02:46:07,140
Council member Dining, yes, Council member Romero.

1206
02:46:10,350 --> 02:46:18,650
what the motion is to the mayor made a motion to clear the room due to the

1207
02:46:18,650 --> 02:46:19,470
little disturbance

1208
02:46:22,320 --> 02:46:28,760
clear the room clear the room

1209
02:46:39,120 --> 02:46:42,400
yeah I I vote now

1210
02:46:48,070 --> 02:46:49,230
so a

1211
02:46:49,230 --> 02:46:50,990
motion does not carry

1212
02:47:12,620 --> 02:47:16,520
don't remember but I can you hear I look and you all

1213
02:47:16,520 --> 02:47:20,040
hear me because I you know when you were doing the voting I was not promoted to

1214
02:47:20,040 --> 02:47:22,620
Do you vote for the motion to clear the room?

1215
02:47:23,340 --> 02:47:23,860
Yes.

1216
02:47:33,000 --> 02:47:36,040
And so we're going to call our princess after this.

1217
02:47:47,350 --> 02:47:48,970
It's a member of the team.

1218
02:48:05,210 --> 02:48:05,870
Can you remember?

1219
02:48:12,550 --> 02:48:14,570
Can she give it?

1220
02:48:14,690 --> 02:48:19,310
Can you raise your hand if you vote?

1221
02:48:19,810 --> 02:48:20,690
On this motion.

1222
02:48:21,230 --> 02:48:23,050
Can you guys hear me or no?

1223
02:48:23,810 --> 02:48:28,310
The motion is to clear the council chambers due to a disturbance.

1224
02:48:28,930 --> 02:48:35,390
Okay, so, Council Member Baragana has voted yes and so the motion passes.

1225
02:48:37,300 --> 02:48:38,460
Motion passes.

1226
02:48:40,320 --> 02:48:42,440
We're clearing the room.

1227
02:48:42,860 --> 02:48:42,880
Yeah.

1228
02:49:06,110 --> 02:49:10,730
It's a government code section five, four, nine, five, seven,

1229
02:49:10,930 --> 02:49:11,450
point nine.

1230
02:49:11,630 --> 02:49:13,690
The chamber will now be clear.

1231
02:49:14,390 --> 02:49:16,310
Recommendants of the class may remain.

1232
02:49:16,310 --> 02:49:19,090
So as long as they are not participating in a disruption.

1233
02:49:19,090 --> 02:49:23,090
only agenda items will be considered while the room is clear.

1234
02:49:53,780 --> 02:49:57,160
So we'll be calling this meeting into a recess

1235
02:50:15,950 --> 02:50:21,130
for

1236
02:50:27,820 --> 02:50:28,760
an album.

1237
02:52:41,310 --> 02:52:41,990
Okay.

1238
02:53:17,500 --> 02:53:18,620
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

1239
03:12:31,060 --> 03:12:43,960
I'd like to call the meeting back to order. So we'll be continuing with item 3.6. So Mark, you pulled that. You have any questions for staff?

1240
03:12:52,050 --> 03:12:53,910
Are we back in session?

1241
03:12:56,270 --> 03:13:09,290
Okay, I pulled item 3.6 which is executed the updated animal control service agreement with the county of San Mateo for the period of July 1st, 2026 to June 30th, 2029.

1242
03:13:10,690 --> 03:13:16,650
I have a lot of concerns about animal control right now as do many members of the community who have spoken to me.

1243
03:13:16,650 --> 03:13:20,470
We feel like we do not have adequate animal control.

1244
03:13:20,810 --> 03:13:26,330
There's practically no outreach in terms of spade neuter.

1245
03:13:26,970 --> 03:13:29,890
There's very little services offered in terms of vaccine.

1246
03:13:30,570 --> 03:13:36,970
The animal control office is close to an hour from East Palo Alto anytime there's traffic.

1247
03:13:37,450 --> 03:13:39,730
Being that it's up in coyote point.

1248
03:13:41,710 --> 03:13:43,150
I've been very unsatisfied.

1249
03:13:43,390 --> 03:13:45,350
We had a meeting last year where I raised concerns

1250
03:13:45,350 --> 03:13:52,070
and I've seen no improvement and I've seen no outreach and you know I am concerned that we're

1251
03:13:52,070 --> 03:13:57,190
extending this without which is quite expensive I believe it's you know 600,000 or more per

1252
03:13:58,230 --> 03:14:03,550
year see imagine what what exactly is the annual cost of our animal control contract

1253
03:14:14,430 --> 03:14:14,990
the

1254
03:14:14,990 --> 03:14:17,110
citizen city manager is pulling that up.

1255
03:14:21,750 --> 03:14:25,330
Now I think one of the issues is we have animal control and

1256
03:14:25,330 --> 03:14:30,730
also that's literally a short walk from East Palo Alto, which is not accessible to East Palo

1257
03:14:30,730 --> 03:14:37,350
to Residence. And instead animal control has up in coyote point, which is significantly

1258
03:14:37,350 --> 03:14:38,970
far away.

1259
03:14:41,990 --> 03:14:50,870
Councilmember, in this coming fiscal year, the impact is going to be 689,683. I'm talking

1260
03:14:50,870 --> 03:14:58,370
I'm sorry for fiscal year 2627, and so staff estimates a total cost of approximately

1261
03:14:58,370 --> 03:14:59,870
2 million, 400.

1262
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:15,600
$154,279. That's a proximate, I should say, because we will get FY 2728 and 2829 amounts in those years.

1263
03:15:15,920 --> 03:15:20,800
But that's 2.45 million over the proposed three-year contract term.

1264
03:15:21,120 --> 03:15:25,760
So that's over three years, that's like more like 800,000 per year?

1265
03:15:27,200 --> 03:15:37,450
roughly yes. Okay. I mean, well two two two two 2.5 million divided by 3 would be

1266
03:15:38,110 --> 03:15:42,730
800,000 if it's over four years. It would be 600, but you say it's a three-year contract.

1267
03:15:42,810 --> 03:15:51,190
Yeah, sorry. I think our fiscal impact section is written incorrectly. My apologies. I think you're right.

1268
03:15:51,190 --> 03:16:00,570
It does say in a different section 872 301 for fiscal year 2627.

1269
03:16:01,550 --> 03:16:04,330
Yeah, I mean, I know you're going to be negotiating.

1270
03:16:05,490 --> 03:16:09,510
But what I see in the community is we don't have to pay new to services.

1271
03:16:09,790 --> 03:16:15,950
We definitely don't have vaccine shipping and other services that you would presume animal services would supply.

1272
03:16:16,030 --> 03:16:19,790
We had asked last year about having a truck come out for

1273
03:16:19,790 --> 03:16:24,430
new to shipping and things like that, that hasn't happened. I'm just wondering what are we getting

1274
03:16:24,430 --> 03:16:27,830
out of this agreement other than somebody coming down and picking up dead animals once in a

1275
03:16:27,830 --> 03:16:33,370
while because I don't know when people call animal control they don't do not get a response most of

1276
03:16:33,370 --> 03:16:40,430
the time. And you know I think our residents deserve better in terms of the services that provided

1277
03:16:41,150 --> 03:16:46,530
and I know this stuff is expensive and I would be like okay yeah that's fine we're getting

1278
03:16:46,530 --> 03:16:51,770
excellent service. We're not getting excellent service. And, you know, I raised these issues last year.

1279
03:16:51,930 --> 03:16:56,370
I have seen nothing about it. I tried to follow up about getting, you know, um,

1280
03:16:56,370 --> 03:17:01,230
spanned uterine, trapping release. And there was no, nothing came back from animal control after

1281
03:17:01,230 --> 03:17:06,410
I made investigations. Excuse me. Yeah. Mark, um, if you guys need to talk, um, I just

1282
03:17:06,410 --> 03:17:11,450
respectfully request that you guys take it outside because we're trying to proceed with the meeting.

1283
03:17:11,450 --> 03:17:18,790
And if everyone's talking, it really makes it hard for us to hear from our staff, the questions,

1284
03:17:18,950 --> 03:17:20,430
I'd like to have our questions answered.

1285
03:17:23,920 --> 03:17:24,040
Thank you.

1286
03:17:28,330 --> 03:17:34,370
I mean, it is me $800,000 a year is a significant amount of money, and we should be getting

1287
03:17:34,370 --> 03:17:34,990
better services.

1288
03:17:35,490 --> 03:17:41,630
That's my point, and I don't want to see us renew a contract without demanding significantly

1289
03:17:41,630 --> 03:17:45,430
better and improve animal services, because right now they suck.

1290
03:17:47,470 --> 03:17:54,570
And you know, there's been no effort on the part of the county to actually do the job in East Palo Alto.

1291
03:17:54,750 --> 03:17:56,930
And we have lots and lots of feral cats.

1292
03:17:57,150 --> 03:17:59,510
We have, you know, dogs running around.

1293
03:17:59,650 --> 03:18:00,830
If you call them, there's a least dog.

1294
03:18:00,970 --> 03:18:04,350
We'll be, yeah, we'll get there in an hour and a half after we send somebody down from coyote point.

1295
03:18:05,630 --> 03:18:09,890
You know, so it's not, it's not the kind of service you would expect.

1296
03:18:10,910 --> 03:18:18,690
I hear you, Council Member Dining, on the desire for better service and animal controls

1297
03:18:18,690 --> 03:18:26,610
in East Palo, but it's important to recognize that this contract is kind of a collaborative

1298
03:18:26,610 --> 03:18:34,750
contract of East Palo to along with 20 other cities in the county in San Mateo County.

1299
03:18:34,750 --> 03:18:36,450
There aren't very many alternatives.

1300
03:18:36,630 --> 03:18:41,130
You may recall during the city council priority setting.

1301
03:18:41,810 --> 03:18:47,650
This was one of the projects that I believe you proposed for us to look at better animal

1302
03:18:47,650 --> 03:18:48,590
controls services.

1303
03:18:48,730 --> 03:18:52,250
And it's not something that's an easy lift to evaluate alternatives.

1304
03:18:53,170 --> 03:18:57,150
Frankly, I don't know if there are many other than possibly looking at Palo Alto.

1305
03:18:57,930 --> 03:19:01,970
But the city council didn't prioritize this as a priority project.

1306
03:19:01,970 --> 03:19:08,970
So, the city continued with the San Mateo County effort and here we are now.

1307
03:19:10,690 --> 03:19:14,270
A council member, sorry, I need to correct what I said earlier.

1308
03:19:14,590 --> 03:19:18,010
The fiscal impact section of the staff report is correct.

1309
03:19:18,550 --> 03:19:22,970
It is $689,000 for fiscal year 2627.

1310
03:19:22,970 --> 03:19:32,610
7, but chart on the earlier page that has the 800 and some thousand number is a chart that the

1311
03:19:32,610 --> 03:19:39,550
county gave to every city to include in the staff report. But our particular impact this coming

1312
03:19:39,550 --> 03:19:47,450
year is 689,683. Yeah, I would encourage you to talk to the county about getting a

1313
03:19:47,450 --> 03:19:51,950
station located significantly closer to East ball Alto and have personnel

1314
03:19:51,950 --> 03:19:56,190
permanently stationed there because what we're we have right now is we're

1315
03:19:56,190 --> 03:20:01,290
the most southern city in the county and they're just not providing

1316
03:20:01,290 --> 03:20:07,050
services for us and so I mean I could you know I'm not happy with the service I

1317
03:20:07,050 --> 03:20:10,670
haven't seen any improvement I haven't seen any outreach I don't see them

1318
03:20:10,670 --> 03:20:16,290
showing up events to try to do you know community engagement or outreach on

1319
03:20:16,290 --> 03:20:22,950
newter or you know vaccination shipping or whatever I mean you go to yeah how many times have

1320
03:20:22,950 --> 03:20:27,990
been at cooling landing and you know every non-profit in the world is there animal services

1321
03:20:27,990 --> 03:20:33,190
isn't there would be a natural place to do outreach so you know I don't know if we have

1322
03:20:33,190 --> 03:20:38,650
many options here but I want to strong strongly send a message that this is not acceptable level

1323
03:20:38,650 --> 03:20:44,430
of behavior for animal services they're not doing a good job we're paying a lot of money for

1324
03:20:44,430 --> 03:20:47,110
I mean, everyone's been bringing up flock flock

1325
03:20:47,110 --> 03:20:51,410
is like $95,000 a year, and this is $689,000 a year.

1326
03:20:52,390 --> 03:20:55,410
So it's, you know, in terms of money

1327
03:20:55,410 --> 03:20:58,250
of the city's spending, it's a significant,

1328
03:20:58,490 --> 03:21:01,450
you know, it's a significant, I'll leave it at that.

1329
03:21:05,200 --> 03:21:07,680
Yeah, I don't want to take eight minutes

1330
03:21:07,680 --> 03:21:11,380
of the council's time on this as the former speaker did.

1331
03:21:11,380 --> 03:21:15,140
I just want to say that my recollection aligns

1332
03:21:15,140 --> 03:21:16,860
with the city manager's recollection.

1333
03:21:16,860 --> 03:21:24,680
There was an interest by a council member to pursue this and, you know, look into a new service provider.

1334
03:21:25,760 --> 03:21:29,580
It, it did not arise to that.

1335
03:21:29,960 --> 03:21:31,360
We couldn't get the three votes.

1336
03:21:31,980 --> 03:21:34,780
So at this point, I think we move forward with this.

1337
03:22:06,080 --> 03:22:09,600
So I, I definitely think we should continue with this.

1338
03:22:10,240 --> 03:22:13,760
If, in our future priorities, we would like to have staff analyze,

1339
03:22:14,360 --> 03:22:18,920
even the remotest possibility of going to Palo Alto and I'm not sure if that is a possibility.

1340
03:22:20,700 --> 03:22:25,400
You know, we can put that into a work plan in our already overwork staff.

1341
03:22:25,480 --> 03:22:30,640
But I think at this point, we should proceed or try to proceed to negotiate this.

1342
03:22:30,740 --> 03:22:36,500
It would be nice to see if we could, in addition to, well, collaborate with them.

1343
03:22:39,860 --> 03:22:45,020
If we could indeed collaborate with them to maybe have a spay, newter clinic here.

1344
03:22:45,020 --> 03:22:51,400
I have taken, you know, my cats up there, it's not that far away, but certainly there are

1345
03:22:51,400 --> 03:22:57,000
and perhaps the subsidized one, but I think that it is worth at this point moving forward

1346
03:22:57,000 --> 03:22:58,920
with the finally appreciation of this contract.

1347
03:23:02,010 --> 03:23:02,250
Thank you.

1348
03:23:02,310 --> 03:23:08,470
And just once I let you all know that Laurie Morton Feezel from Cemetell County Health has been

1349
03:23:08,470 --> 03:23:11,870
here all night and she's available for any questions you may have of her.

1350
03:23:12,250 --> 03:23:14,670
Perhaps she might want to make some comments as well.

1351
03:23:22,290 --> 03:23:23,130
Thank you very much.

1352
03:23:23,130 --> 03:23:31,790
Thank you, Mayor Lincoln, and Vice Mayor Abreca, and Council Member Denine Ann Romero.

1353
03:23:33,370 --> 03:23:39,150
As city manager said, I'm Lori Morton, Fisell, with the county, and I did want to address some of

1354
03:23:39,150 --> 03:23:46,130
your concerns about East Palo Alto. As far as the Humane Society being in San Mateo,

1355
03:23:46,170 --> 03:23:50,970
that is correct. It is 15 miles down the road, and I did want to talk a little bit about Spain

1356
03:23:50,970 --> 03:23:58,490
newter. I ran some numbers for you this afternoon. And with our Spaya newter voucher program East

1357
03:23:58,490 --> 03:24:08,110
Palo Alto, we have done 370 animals this year. So out of the county, out of 20 animals,

1358
03:24:08,190 --> 03:24:14,690
three animals are done out of East Palo Alto. So East Palo Alto is getting a higher percentage

1359
03:24:14,690 --> 03:24:18,190
of animals spade and neutered for each city.

1360
03:24:19,070 --> 03:24:21,910
So that's a nice, that's a very high percentage.

1361
03:24:22,790 --> 03:24:25,590
Beneathly Humane Society is not the only shelter

1362
03:24:25,590 --> 03:24:27,450
doing spade and neuter.

1363
03:24:28,170 --> 03:24:30,490
Nine lives, which is in redwood city,

1364
03:24:30,850 --> 03:24:34,430
is taking our vouchers as well as that's in need,

1365
03:24:34,510 --> 03:24:36,030
which is right here in redwood city.

1366
03:24:36,610 --> 03:24:40,210
The voucher program, one dollar from every license,

1367
03:24:40,230 --> 03:24:41,790
goes into our fund.

1368
03:24:41,790 --> 03:24:46,090
So, a resident can get a voucher and only pays $25.

1369
03:24:47,170 --> 03:24:51,070
So, is any resident in East Palo Alto can get a voucher?

1370
03:24:51,690 --> 03:24:53,650
So, it only costs them $25.

1371
03:24:54,410 --> 03:24:58,050
So, they do not have to go all the way to San Mateo.

1372
03:24:58,650 --> 03:25:00,710
They can go as close as Redwood City.

1373
03:25:01,390 --> 03:25:05,110
The other program we just recently started was at WeHope.

1374
03:25:05,970 --> 03:25:08,610
So, WeHope, we are now doing vaccinations,

1375
03:25:08,610 --> 03:25:15,470
free treatment, all of that for no cost to those residents so they can get in to housing.

1376
03:25:16,090 --> 03:25:17,450
So that's for the unhoused.

1377
03:25:18,430 --> 03:25:24,290
Unfortunately, no one has contacted me about any education here in East Palo Alto.

1378
03:25:24,730 --> 03:25:27,190
I know you did speak with the Peninsula Humane Society.

1379
03:25:27,610 --> 03:25:34,850
I'm very willing to talk with them and try to get any education down here in East Palo Alto.

1380
03:25:34,850 --> 03:25:44,450
I did want to speak to you about the numbers, I know you were talking about services not being done down here in East Palo Alto.

1381
03:25:45,450 --> 03:25:54,290
I wanted to let you know in the past 12 months there has been 689 animals cared for at the shelter.

1382
03:25:54,290 --> 03:25:57,950
So that's receiving 24-hour care.

1383
03:25:59,710 --> 03:26:03,770
178 dogs from East Palo Alto were cared for.

1384
03:26:04,910 --> 03:26:09,710
275 cats, 27 others, which would be like guinea pigs,

1385
03:26:09,990 --> 03:26:14,650
parakeets could be a reptile or two, and 82 wildlife.

1386
03:26:15,510 --> 03:26:19,590
So that could be a raccoon, a possum, any type of wildlife.

1387
03:26:20,530 --> 03:26:24,210
Return to owner 73 of those dogs were returned to owner's back

1388
03:26:24,210 --> 03:26:31,230
in East Palo Alto. 182 cats went back to the owners in East Palo Alto, which is a very high

1389
03:26:31,230 --> 03:26:37,430
percentage. So that means the staff at Penensley Humane Society cared enough to return those

1390
03:26:37,430 --> 03:26:43,890
animals back to the owner, make phone calls to try to get them back. As far as field services,

1391
03:26:43,890 --> 03:26:54,030
being in your city 562 calls were done in the city of East Palo Alto. That means, as far as

1392
03:26:54,450 --> 03:27:02,110
working with your police department, assisting your police department, there were 79 calls,

1393
03:27:03,030 --> 03:27:09,970
where your police department asked for our peninsula humane society to come and assist them. In my

1394
03:27:09,970 --> 03:27:16,310
In my mind doing this for 43 years, that's a high number of service calls where the officers

1395
03:27:16,310 --> 03:27:21,950
of the Humane Society are providing service to your residents and your police department.

1396
03:27:22,570 --> 03:27:28,890
Another high amount is aggressive dogs, so they've been responding 16 different times

1397
03:27:28,890 --> 03:27:33,770
in your city to come and answer calls for aggressive animals in your city.

1398
03:27:33,910 --> 03:27:35,650
That's another high percentage.

1399
03:27:35,650 --> 03:27:42,990
So when you look at the dollar amount, I know $669,000 is a high amount, but you are getting

1400
03:27:42,990 --> 03:27:44,290
service for that amount.

1401
03:27:45,430 --> 03:27:51,090
Years back, and I think it was right before 2021, when we went to sign the contract,

1402
03:27:51,790 --> 03:27:57,170
Minlow Park thought about leaving the contract, and they went to Palo Alto.

1403
03:27:57,930 --> 03:28:05,530
What they found out is it would cost them over $800,000 to contract with Palo Alto, animal

1404
03:28:05,530 --> 03:28:09,530
services. And they realized that they would stay with the contract.

1405
03:28:11,910 --> 03:28:13,570
If you would like to

1406
03:28:13,570 --> 03:28:19,770
research that three years, we are going to go back out for a request for proposal. If East

1407
03:28:19,770 --> 03:28:25,110
Palo Alto feels that they would like to leave the contract, that would be the time in which you

1408
03:28:25,110 --> 03:28:34,950
would that you could do that. The other thing that the Humane Society does offer is they do a low

1409
03:28:34,950 --> 03:28:46,090
vaccine clinic at their shelter every Wednesday and Saturday. So I understand it's a 15-minute drive down the freeway. I also understand there is traffic.

1410
03:28:47,010 --> 03:29:00,370
15 mile. 15 mile. 15 mile. 15. Yeah, you said 15 minutes. It's more like four in traffic. Yes, I apologize. I misspoke. Also, right here in Redwood City,

1411
03:29:00,370 --> 03:29:06,950
That's a need. They offer a low-cost vaccine clinic. If you would like to cooperate with me,

1412
03:29:07,050 --> 03:29:11,570
council member, I would love to come and meet with you and see if we could put some more

1413
03:29:11,570 --> 03:29:17,650
services in your city. Like I said, I've been doing this for many years and I used to work in

1414
03:29:17,650 --> 03:29:23,710
East Palo Alto as an officer and I would like to see if we can collaborate and get some more

1415
03:29:23,710 --> 03:29:30,090
services into your city. But I do feel that the Humane Society is doing a very good job in your city.

1416
03:29:30,370 --> 03:29:33,150
Are there any questions I can answer for you to this evening?

1417
03:29:36,510 --> 03:29:41,630
I don't have any questions, but thank you for the update and the numbers and you're welcome.

1418
03:29:41,750 --> 03:29:44,110
You know, certainly things have always been proved.

1419
03:29:44,790 --> 03:29:48,010
I would say, yeah, maybe some gaps here and there.

1420
03:29:49,510 --> 03:29:51,310
And as far as working with council members,

1421
03:29:51,470 --> 03:29:53,890
you need to work with all of us, not just one.

1422
03:29:54,370 --> 03:29:56,710
And probably you should check in also with the city manager

1423
03:29:57,270 --> 03:29:59,790
because ultimately the staff that has to do the work.

1424
03:30:01,060 --> 03:30:10,880
But I appreciate your offer. I just want to clarify that since we're not employee so the city, and we shouldn't be running our own programs.

1425
03:30:12,300 --> 03:30:18,640
But obviously, whatever, both have, then you can air them, but ultimately, I think, working through our staff.

1426
03:30:19,140 --> 03:30:20,700
But thank you very much for the update.

1427
03:30:20,700 --> 03:30:27,980
and absolutely, to be pleasure to work with all of you and the City Manager, I do work closely

1428
03:30:27,980 --> 03:30:33,460
with, I send the reports out to them monthly, so they know monthly what's happening with the

1429
03:30:33,460 --> 03:30:38,500
Humane Society and are up-to-date, but I can absolutely work with your City Manager.

1430
03:30:39,140 --> 03:30:41,580
Yes. Any other questions?

1431
03:30:42,080 --> 03:30:50,680
I had spoken with our Assistant City Manager, but the possibility of doing, I know we have the

1432
03:30:50,680 --> 03:30:59,400
or counties to do a Spanish newter clinic in the city, I would love to see if we could do that.

1433
03:30:59,520 --> 03:31:03,220
I don't know if it means that we, you know, say my subsidized it, but I think that would

1434
03:31:03,220 --> 03:31:08,160
be helpful when it probably gets your programs out into the community also, and at the same

1435
03:31:08,160 --> 03:31:13,800
time, we can deal with, you know, spending a new dream. But I mean, the numbers sound promising,

1436
03:31:14,160 --> 03:31:18,700
and I do want to just correct the record that I'm looking at Google Maps here, and yes,

1437
03:31:18,700 --> 03:31:24,560
the drive time is anywhere from 17 to about 35 minutes, super, super high traffic, it goes before

1438
03:31:24,560 --> 03:31:24,800
it.

1439
03:31:25,520 --> 03:31:31,280
But so it's, well, well, again, I've gone, I do know about the Buster program, you know, I was

1440
03:31:31,280 --> 03:31:36,540
able to use your services and actually, tragically, when one of my cats died and I was,

1441
03:31:37,280 --> 03:31:42,920
it was on the curve on the gutter and I was going to bury it at home and I read that

1442
03:31:42,920 --> 03:31:48,380
I should not and I called you all and literally I'm not kidding, that was about 10 o'clock

1443
03:31:48,380 --> 03:31:52,160
in the morning, and then by 12 o'clock, my cat was gone.

1444
03:31:52,820 --> 03:31:57,440
So you all took the cat away, and which was what you said I should be doing that very

1445
03:31:57,440 --> 03:31:58,020
in my backyard.

1446
03:31:58,620 --> 03:32:00,940
So at least, and that happened about nine months ago.

1447
03:32:02,180 --> 03:32:07,240
So, well, maybe there's a lot of cool months ago, but still, I've appreciated your service.

1448
03:32:07,420 --> 03:32:08,180
Thank you.

1449
03:32:08,600 --> 03:32:10,000
Thank you very much for that.

1450
03:32:10,000 --> 03:32:15,440
And what I can say with the new contract, they do have certain priorities, and they have to meet

1451
03:32:15,440 --> 03:32:20,640
performance measures, and the new contract keeps them on that.

1452
03:32:20,900 --> 03:32:23,880
They have 18 hours in which to pick up dead animals.

1453
03:32:24,520 --> 03:32:29,320
So that might be the reason you're seeing a better performance, same thing with injured animals

1454
03:32:29,320 --> 03:32:31,180
and responding to police officers.

1455
03:32:31,580 --> 03:32:34,280
They have a certain amount of time in which to respond to that.

1456
03:32:34,860 --> 03:32:39,780
So as far as the spanned neuter piece, I don't know if you're aware, but there is a shortage

1457
03:32:39,780 --> 03:32:42,060
of veterinarians across the country.

1458
03:32:42,660 --> 03:32:51,880
And the Spain-Newter mobile that used to go out a long time ago has not been out in years through the Peninsula Humane Society because of that shortage.

1459
03:32:52,420 --> 03:32:54,180
Not to say that it couldn't happen.

1460
03:32:54,740 --> 03:32:56,260
That's something we can look into.

1461
03:32:56,480 --> 03:33:01,100
I am having a meeting with Anthony Tansmore, the president on June 1.

1462
03:33:01,440 --> 03:33:03,140
I'll talk to him about that.

1463
03:33:03,140 --> 03:33:07,360
If we can't do a Spain-Newter, at least we could try to do a vaccine clinic down here.

1464
03:33:07,780 --> 03:33:10,180
Maybe a free vaccine clinic at least start there.

1465
03:33:10,860 --> 03:33:18,940
and then try to get move up and see what we can do. Thank you. You're welcome. Any other questions?

1466
03:33:21,300 --> 03:33:26,380
Thank you very much. If there's no additional comments, I'd like to have them make a

1467
03:33:26,380 --> 03:33:30,780
best, can you answer an emotion to? There's a public comment. Oh, there are.

1468
03:33:34,420 --> 03:33:35,920
Okay. I think we have a lot

1469
03:33:35,920 --> 03:33:39,360
on, maybe online,

1470
03:33:41,680 --> 03:33:42,160
more email?

1471
03:33:44,360 --> 03:33:45,380
I good evening.

1472
03:33:45,980 --> 03:33:49,340
It's really nice to have this conversation.

1473
03:33:49,820 --> 03:33:53,000
And I understand council members, council members,

1474
03:33:53,120 --> 03:33:56,540
guidance, frustrations because we are at the end of the county.

1475
03:33:57,660 --> 03:34:00,920
I do want to point out though, through the years, having grown up in

1476
03:34:00,920 --> 03:34:06,920
mental park and lived in EPA for a long time, that PHS has evolved best practices

1477
03:34:06,920 --> 03:34:12,540
and they have some state-of-the-art facilities that we have access to through the county

1478
03:34:12,540 --> 03:34:13,300
contract.

1479
03:34:13,800 --> 03:34:19,240
Palo Alto does not, and on top of that, Petson needs is not a competent operator.

1480
03:34:20,180 --> 03:34:25,340
We need these services as evidenced by their statistics, and there is a good return on

1481
03:34:25,340 --> 03:34:26,000
our investment.

1482
03:34:26,660 --> 03:34:30,020
There is room for improvement though, but things have greatly improved for pets.

1483
03:34:30,840 --> 03:34:36,040
In fact, I remember I did a right along with Ms. Morton Faisel here years ago when she was

1484
03:34:36,040 --> 03:34:44,300
animal control officer. And I learned a lot from her at that time. And I've also had

1485
03:34:44,300 --> 03:34:49,780
good feedback from case managers at we hope about the programs that they have right

1486
03:34:49,780 --> 03:34:56,860
now. So again, with the issues Mr. Dining brings up, these would require some long-term

1487
03:34:56,860 --> 03:35:01,460
focus in planning. And he may not remember this, but we've talked about this in the past.

1488
03:35:01,460 --> 03:35:10,020
And I do recall that there was something about it could make sense to work with the county and other local San Mateo County cities.

1489
03:35:11,000 --> 03:35:30,180
So they're power in numbers, so maybe there's something that we could all do together, so that's not just us on our own trying to get more effective services, when maybe we could all do it as a group with the more southern cities or at least some other programs that maybe more local.

1490
03:35:30,180 --> 03:35:31,500
Thank you.

1491
03:35:34,800 --> 03:35:35,320
Thank you.

1492
03:35:35,680 --> 03:35:36,420
Next speaker Mario.

1493
03:35:44,990 --> 03:35:55,720
speaking of perros, I want to tell you that they will be a little bit tense on

1494
03:35:55,720 --> 03:35:56,720
in his Paloato,

1495
03:35:59,800 --> 03:36:02,360
there is a genesis of perros in the country,

1496
03:36:05,650 --> 03:36:06,390
and the two of them

1497
03:36:06,390 --> 03:36:08,470
know how to do the bathroom in the street,

1498
03:36:12,620 --> 03:36:14,240
there is the park from the outside,

1499
03:36:16,940 --> 03:36:17,140
there

1500
03:36:17,140 --> 03:36:19,760
they take the subway, where they go, they go to the south,

1501
03:36:24,580 --> 03:36:26,040
and they hope to do it in

1502
03:36:26,040 --> 03:36:27,640
and because

1503
03:36:30,430 --> 03:36:33,790
we have to take them to these people.

1504
03:36:37,980 --> 03:36:39,880
That's fine, I also have two dogs,

1505
03:36:43,260 --> 03:36:45,840
but why do they take them to the streets of the bathroom?

1506
03:36:49,120 --> 03:36:56,840
In the middle of the morning, in the bathroom, there's a lot of people taking them to the streets.

1507
03:37:01,390 --> 03:37:03,350
Now they take attention on that.

1508
03:37:25,870 --> 03:37:31,210
Okay, can I get a motion to on this agenda item to approve it?

1509
03:37:32,750 --> 03:37:36,490
I moved the item for approval.

1510
03:37:36,850 --> 03:37:40,030
We do a roll call.

1511
03:37:42,100 --> 03:37:43,160
May your link in?

1512
03:37:44,000 --> 03:37:45,140
Vice Mayor Bricka.

1513
03:37:46,440 --> 03:37:47,820
Councilmember Bauderan.

1514
03:37:48,540 --> 03:37:48,780
Yes.

1515
03:37:49,060 --> 03:37:49,860
Councilmember Dining.

1516
03:37:51,360 --> 03:37:51,960
Councilmember Bauderan.

1517
03:37:52,980 --> 03:37:53,460
Yes.

1518
03:37:54,300 --> 03:37:55,060
Motion carries.

1519
03:37:56,100 --> 03:37:56,220
Okay.

1520
03:37:56,360 --> 03:37:56,940
Thank you.

1521
03:37:57,460 --> 03:38:01,840
So we're proceeding with the policy and action item.

1522
03:38:01,840 --> 03:38:07,340
Number 9.1, staffy late present.

1523
03:38:08,620 --> 03:38:11,540
Thank you, Mayor. Once I can just load in the presentation,

1524
03:38:31,760 --> 03:38:32,080
public.

1525
03:38:32,540 --> 03:38:40,640
So the policy and action item was moved up to right after the approval of the consent calendar.

1526
03:38:41,140 --> 03:38:43,460
So public comment will happen after.

1527
03:38:53,560 --> 03:38:54,300
Thanks.

1528
03:39:00,510 --> 03:39:03,270
All right. All right. See it.

1529
03:39:31,760 --> 03:39:33,360
Thanks for your patience, everyone.

1530
03:39:33,900 --> 03:39:34,440
Good evening.

1531
03:39:34,700 --> 03:39:36,280
Honorable Mayor and members of the city council.

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My name is Orly Amy and I'm presenting on the adoption of the city's first ever legislative platform and formalization of a legislative advocacy and intergovernmental relations program,

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which largely consists of work we've already been doing.

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We

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have four specific requests tonight first is the adoption of the legislative platform itself which will set the policy boundaries based on the priorities that this city council has already set and making sure those priorities are rooted in the principles represented in the general plan.

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Second, authorization for the city manager to implement this platform.

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Third, directing staff to return to you for items that fall outside of this framework.

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And finally, we are looking for your direction on whether to establish a city council

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legislative committee to support ongoing coordination.

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So to Dr. Montgomery, a legislative platform is a guiding document that the city council

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can adopt that outlines its official positions on a range of public policy issues.

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And this platform serves as a strategic plan and reference guide for advocating for and responding

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to local, state, and federal legislation that could impact the Cs operations, finances, programs,

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and priorities.

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And by establishing clear positions on key issues, a legislative platform streamlines, a

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legislative process, and allows staff to act quickly and effectively to support beneficial

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legislation or oppose legislation that is inconsistent with the city's goals.

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So why are we doing this now?

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Historically, EPA has advocated on an ad hoc basis, and without a dedicated staff person

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coordinating these efforts. So that means that we've responded when issues arise such as

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funding opportunities or a piece of legislation, but without a consistent framework that guides

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these efforts. And the gap there is not lack of activity because we have lots of that and we'll

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share our ongoing efforts to later in the presentation, but a lack of structure. And without a consistent

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framework, it's more challenging to ensure that all of the city's advocacy efforts are aligned with

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of priorities and that we're advancing the clear and consistent policy direction across different

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issue areas. So back in September 2025, the City Manager's office presented to this council

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about the prospect of approving an official legislative platform and you all provided us preliminary

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direction of flesh out such a platform rooted in the strategic priorities in general plan principles

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and return to presents it. So that's why we're here today. So staff previously reviewed the

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California cities and the models that we looked at demonstrated the value of codifying legislative

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positions to guide staff, our consultancy work with, and the elected officials that we

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console in their advocacy work.

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So this slide outlines how the city approaches advocacy across

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different levels of government and at the federal level this includes direct engagement with

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congressional offices and agencies such as the environmental protection agency, the Department of

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are in development, the Army or Corps of Engineers, and those are just a few of the agencies

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we've worked with, and these are particularly to advance community project funding requests

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and other appropriations opportunities. At the state level, we coordinate with the governor's

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office and other state agencies and our legislative delegation of state senators and assembly

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members on both budget and policy matters, including issues that impact local control and funding

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for cities. Additionally, the city engages regionally through boards and partner agencies, you

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all are part of where.

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So additionally, the city engages regionally through boards and

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partner agencies that this council is involved in, where many funding and policy priorities are

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shaped across the local jurisdictions. And taking together, this is a coordinated

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approach that ensures that our advocacy efforts at all levels are aligned with the city's strategic

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priorities in general plant principles and focus on securing resources and advancing policy

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outcomes for the community and together all of these components make our advocacy strategy

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as a whole they will comprise the city's legislative advocacy and intergovernmental relations program.

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So our goal is to consistently advance the outcomes that this council has identified as priorities

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And as I mentioned, this work is not new. It's built on previous council direction.

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So as the council suggested back in the fall, we have created a like a crosswalk

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that anchors our advocacy in the fiscal year 2025 through 2029 priorities.

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And the general plan, we said 2035. And by doing this, we will ensure that every letter of

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support or opposition that we sign, or advocacy meeting that we hold is

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operationalizing the goals of this Council has already vetted with.

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And establish for the EPA community. And this proposed framework will ensure that the city is not just watching from the sidelines, but that we're actively shaping the policies and securing the funding that will define our future.

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So with this platform, we'll be translating these adopted priorities into a format that can be used to evaluate legislation, funding opportunities, and policy decisions.

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So, I will briefly walk through the core elements reflected in the platform.

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The platform, as I mentioned, are organized into seven pillars that directly align with

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the strategic priorities and are supported by the general plan principles.

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The first pillar is civic engagement.

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And with that, the city recognizes that meaningful participation in civic life is foundational

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to effective governance and community trust.

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And from the legislative standpoint, that means that we support policies and funding that

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span access to participation, particularly for communities like hours that have historically

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faced barriers to that.

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And so this includes things like improving access to public information, expanding language

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access, and strengthening digital connectivity so that residents can more easily engage

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with the city processes.

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And this also includes supporting youth engagement and leadership development, recognizing

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that long-term community resilience depends on building the next generation of civic leaders.

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So this priority is focus on ensuring that our advocacy supports some more inclusive and transparent and accessible civic environment for all.

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The second pillar is comprehensive housing. Access is safe, stable, and affordable housing is essential priority for the city and the key component of community well-being.

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And through our legislative advocacy, the city will pursue both production and protection and on the production side.

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That means supporting funding and policies that expand housing opportunities across all income levels.

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And on the protection side, it means advocating for 10 protections and anti-displacement strategies to preserve community stability.

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We will also evaluate housing related legislation through the lens of local control to ensure that the city

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It retains that ability to tailor solutions based on our specific needs and context.

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The third pillar focuses on governance, organizational strength and fiscal sustainability.

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And this one is about ensuring that the city has a capacity and resources to deliver services and achieve our long-term goals.

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From the advocacy perspective, this includes supporting policies that provide reliable and flexible funding sources so that we can continue to respond to community needs and invest in infrastructure and services.

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and it also includes advocating for transparency and accountability and ensuring data

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driven decision-making.

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Also, we will oppose unfund and mandate, meaning policies that impose costs on local

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governments without providing the resources to do so.

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And we will also support workforce development and organizational capacity-building efforts,

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recognizing that strong institutions are essential to effective governance.

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And last for this slide is the fourth pillar of land use economic and workforce development.

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And the focus here is on promoting economic vitality and expanding access to opportunity for our residents.

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So this includes supporting policies and funding for workforce development programs, job training and small business support.

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With the goal to reduce economic disparities and ensure that economic growth benefits existing residents.

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We will also advocate for balanced development to ensure that land use decisions support both economic growth and long-term environmental and community goals that the city has already established.

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So this includes reducing economic leakage, strengthening local business ecosystems and fostering regional partnerships.

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All

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right, moving on to our fifth pillar of seven, parks, recreation and community facilities.

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So access to parks and recreational opportunities is critical to the quality of life and community health in PA.

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So from the legislative standpoint, this means pursuing funding for park improvements, recreational programming and community infrastructure.

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And we also prioritize expanding access to open space and ensuring that investment support active lifestyles and community connection.

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And so this alliance closely with our existing goals around livability and overall well being for our residents.

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Our sixth pillar of public health, safety and quality of life focuses on building safe, healthy and resilient communities.

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And so, with this city, we'll support investments in public safety infrastructure, emergency preparedness, and community-based services.

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And we will also advocate for policy that address environmental health and promote equitable access to essential services.

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So the goal here is to address root causes and improve outcomes for vulnerable populations in a more comprehensive and sustainable way.

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Our final pillar is public infrastructure and utilities.

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So reliable and modern infrastructure is essential in supporting the city's growth, sustainability and our long term resilience overall.

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So from a legislative perspective, this includes advocating for investments in multi-moral

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transportation to ensure residents have safe and equitable access to schools, to jobs, services

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and regional opportunities.

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And it also includes water system modernization, which is critical to maintaining reliable

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service and addressing the city's long term infrastructure needs that need investment.

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And finally, there's this wrong emphasis on climate resilience, which means making sure that

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to withstand environmental challenges and protect the community over time.

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So this priority helps ensure that the city is well positioned to secure funding in these areas

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and advanced projects that support both current needs and future growth.

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We're guarding

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governance standards, this platform distinguishes between official city positions and individual

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council member views. So while of course council members may express their personal opinions,

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When it comes to legislation they must clarify that they are not speaking for the council body as a whole unless the position is adopted in this platform and aligns with this platform and to ensure consistent messaging all official advocacy materials will be coordinated through this key managers office as they are now.

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Moving on to the role of our legislative consultants.

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So we are a small city and we just frankly don't have the internal capacity to track and engage on legislation at the level that's required.

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So the integrated team that we contract with whose contract that this council awarded, they provide that capacity to us via strategic guidance and technical expertise across both the federal and the state landscapes.

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And so Ken Brown strategic consulting serves as the lead and that firm coordinates of the overall strategy and ensures that our advocacy aligns with our state of priorities.

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And at the state level, Nassiman provides detailed legislative tracking and analysis for various bills and legislative matters at the state level and staff help complement those efforts by helping the city manager's office understand how bills might impact the city.

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At the federal level, we have the other subcontractor Sustainable Strategies DC, which supports

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our engagement with congressional offices and helps advance funding opportunities, particularly

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with community project funding requests.

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And together, this team allows the city to stay informed and be strategic and engage effectively

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across all levels of government.

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As we're advocacy tools and tactics, we use a variety of those, and so this includes formal

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position letters such as letters of support or opposition, verbal testimonies at hearings,

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direct engagement with legislators and agency representatives, so that means working with

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legislative staff to shape the actual language of a bill before it ever reaches a vote to help

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ensure that it doesn't unintentionally harm our community. And lastly, with funding advocacy,

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which allows closely with our capital and programmatic needs. And just to be clear, these are all

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of the city is already using the platform will just help to provide a better framework for using them

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consistently.

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As for the delegation framework for positions, the proposed delegation framework

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is that when a billor action is clearly aligned with the platform, the city manager would be authorized

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to act with the mayor or vice mayor signing formal letters. And this allows us to meet high deadlines.

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However, if a billor action is ambiguous or outside the platform, or involves a major policy

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issue, that's not approved by the Council, staff will return to this full Council for direction.

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And the emphasis here is that the Council would always retain authority over new policy.

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We're also presenting an option to establish a legislative committee and we wanted to include

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this as an option because in practice, the city is already kind of operating in a similar structure today.

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For example, the mayor and the vice-meritipically lead our federal advocacy efforts, including participation,

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representation in our Washington D.C. agency meetings and additionally, when we work with our

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legislative consultants every winter to finalize the city's annual federal appropriations

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priorities, staff in the city manager's office are typically coordinating directly with the mayor

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and vice mayor on this matter and sharing with them the proposed projects and seeking alignment

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before those requests are advanced. So there's already a level of coordination that's happening

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here, but in a more informal way. So this proposal was simply formalized at our approach and provided

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clear framework for that coordination. And we did do some research in this area as well. So for five

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member councils like EPA, the most common structure that we've seen is a two member committee either

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the mayor and vice mayor or any two council members who would be appointed annually. And this structure

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would keep the group below a quorum, which will allow us to be flexible and while also ensuring

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that the full council retains decision making authority.

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So we looked at how some other cities approached this.

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And we saw that 10 material.

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There is city legislative committee

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uses that mayor vice mayor model.

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While Redwood City, their intergovernment,

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Louva, excuse me, intergovernmental relations committee

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uses two appointed council members.

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So ultimately, tonight, we are seeking your direction

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on whether this council would like to formalize such committee

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and what structure would best align with your preferences.

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Another important component of the city's advocacy strategy is regional engagement,

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as you all know, because you all serve on critical regional boards, like A-BAC,

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or the San Francisco Creek, JPA, and this participation helps to influence funding policy and regional priorities.

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And so this is another instance in which the legislative platform will be helpful,

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because it would serve as a guide for these roles

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and it would give you a consistent framework

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to represent EPA's entrance,

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interest, excuse me,

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while still allowing you to the flexibility

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of negotiating a real time.

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And we would also like to encourage coordination,

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which means reporting back to city staff,

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and our legislative consultants

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on the regional trends that you're seeing and informing on,

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so that we can also be aware of

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broader regional advocacy efforts

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that we might contribute to.

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So, this is moving into one of the handouts that I had shared with you all about our recent advocacy efforts over the last

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maybe year and a half or so, from which we started tracking all of these efforts at the beginning of 2025.

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So, since 2025, maybe around, let's see, March was our tracking.

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We started tracking our legislative advocacy activities and the positions that we've taken.

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So we have submitted some targeted letters supporting federal funding state budget priorities and key policy positions.

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Regarding our federal appropriations and funding requests at the federal level, the city has supported multiple appropriations requests, including funding for roadway safety, water infrastructure, parks and public safety.

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And we come back to the mayor and vice mayor at the beginning of like January do March of every year to align on what those appropriations request would be.

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And here are some recent wins in that area and so in February, 2026.

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The community project funding for our will an avenue safety improvements project was signed into law and so that's $2 million for the city.

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And likewise, just last week, we just received notice that the same thing, funding for the community project.

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San Francisco Creek floodway study, we had $600,000 allocated to the city in a recent bill that is due to go to the president's desk any day now.

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At the state level, we've allocated for restoration of the vehicle licensee funding, which, as you can see, represents a significant portion of the city's general fund.

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And this is also something that our lobbyists, consultant,

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subcontractor was able to go give in-person testimony for the leave just last week

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up in Sacramento to advocate that this funding is restored.

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We've also supported major infrastructure investments, including water system upgrades,

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flood control projects, and regional public transportation initiatives.

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And we have also taken positions on several legislation affecting local control

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environmental protections. And so the point of showing all this with you is just to demonstrate that

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we are already actively engaged and we really just see our legislative platform as a way to

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allow us to build on that momentum in a more structured way.

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As far as transparency and reporting

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in next steps, transparency is a key component of the program. So we are utilizing legislative reports

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from Nostimans to track developments on bills and real time.

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We get a weekly update.

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Following tonight's meeting, we will also be launching a public facing advocacy webpage.

1741
03:59:53,260 --> 03:59:57,220
We want to share with our residents and our stakeholders, our legislative platform.

1742
04:00:02,400 --> 04:00:24,280
And we also want to share the advocacy outcomes of that advocacy. We will also continue coordination of our DCNs.com meetings with the relevant agencies and officials and going forward staff will also be providing period of periodic updates to council to ensure ongoing visibility.

1743
04:00:25,980 --> 04:00:36,740
so we're at the end. Thanks for listening. So this slide is divided into two components. One

1744
04:00:36,740 --> 04:00:42,280
is the key decisions that we'd like to hear from Council on tonight. So the core decisions that

1745
04:00:42,280 --> 04:00:47,840
we're asking are for adoption of this legislative platform, authorizing the City Manager to

1746
04:00:47,840 --> 04:00:53,240
implement its and giving us direction on the legislative committee and also directing staff to

1747
04:00:53,240 --> 04:00:58,880
turn out the full council for advocacy efforts that fall outside of the platform and then

1748
04:00:58,880 --> 04:01:03,280
opening up the floor for council discussion and feedback, you want to open it up for your

1749
04:01:03,280 --> 04:01:07,940
thoughts. Specifically, we would like to know, does this platform align with your vision for

1750
04:01:07,940 --> 04:01:14,520
the city and the direction that you all originally provided in September for us to produce a platform

1751
04:01:14,520 --> 04:01:20,240
that is aligned in our strategic priorities and general plan? We would like to know that

1752
04:01:20,240 --> 04:01:26,060
or whether the delegation authority is clear and appropriate and should we be

1753
04:01:26,060 --> 04:01:29,380
moving forward with the legislative committee perhaps meeting quarterly to

1754
04:01:29,380 --> 04:01:35,720
dive deeper into these issues. And so there's a fourth bullet point. Are there

1755
04:01:35,720 --> 04:01:40,880
any additional regional or say issues that you would like to be that you would

1756
04:01:40,880 --> 04:01:46,540
like to see added to this priority list? And with that I will sub-talk in and pass it

1757
04:01:46,540 --> 04:01:48,040
to the council for your feedback?

1758
04:01:59,790 --> 04:02:04,070
Do we have any discussion or question feedback for staff on this item?

1759
04:02:07,570 --> 04:02:16,910
So I have one suggested change on the wording on the legislative platform and then there's

1760
04:02:16,910 --> 04:02:21,930
an additional regional issue that I guess we can get to when we get to the four and that

1761
04:02:21,930 --> 04:02:31,290
is where we we're talking about housing and the programs that we support the in alignment

1762
04:02:31,290 --> 04:02:34,570
with the general plan principles of equitable growth and neighborhood preservation.

1763
04:02:35,290 --> 04:02:40,730
The city will evaluate housing related legislation through the lens of both production

1764
04:02:40,730 --> 04:02:41,590
and protection.

1765
04:02:42,710 --> 04:02:47,510
And I think preservation is something that is missing because one that somewhat protection

1766
04:02:47,510 --> 04:02:53,710
And there is funding available, but also if there are naturally affordable housing that we

1767
04:02:53,710 --> 04:03:01,350
can, or if they legislation that might come through that would allow us or allow land

1768
04:03:01,350 --> 04:03:09,530
trusts to acquire and then place in perpetuity, those units into an affordable pot or an

1769
04:03:09,530 --> 04:03:16,170
affordable trust, I would hope that we would be willing to add the word preservation

1770
04:03:16,170 --> 04:03:19,930
in addition to production, protection, and preservation,

1771
04:03:22,070 --> 04:03:24,330
that would, again, align with some of the

1772
04:03:24,330 --> 04:03:31,570
work that we're doing based on some of the local ordinances that we've passed. That was my only

1773
04:03:32,170 --> 04:03:39,610
change to the legislative policy. Thank you council member. So I have added in that notes.

1774
04:03:51,260 --> 04:03:51,780
Yeah,

1775
04:03:54,740 --> 04:04:01,160
so is this, for instance, SB 79 came up this year, which was housing your transit,

1776
04:04:01,540 --> 04:04:06,200
upzoning your transit, would this be the sort of thing that the CDV's polity would officially

1777
04:04:06,200 --> 04:04:12,340
endorse a certain bill, like we'd be like the CDV's polity formally is endorsing

1778
04:04:12,340 --> 04:04:18,900
SB 79 or is this more lobbying behind the scenes on the bills to get them, you know,

1779
04:04:18,980 --> 04:04:19,580
to our benefit?

1780
04:04:20,480 --> 04:04:26,720
Well, first we would take this to our staff and ask them, well, can you analyze this bill

1781
04:04:26,720 --> 04:04:32,920
and also one conjunction with our legislative consultants to get a fill for how that bill

1782
04:04:32,920 --> 04:04:39,220
would specifically impact EPA. From there, we could advocate for it, we can oppose it, we can

1783
04:04:39,220 --> 04:04:46,140
support it. Yeah, I'm often asked to endorse bills, you know, as a whatever, would this be like the

1784
04:04:46,140 --> 04:05:04,120
the entire city of East Palo Alto endorses a certain bill and can, you know, officially our policy might be like let's say that there's a affordable housing bond that the city of East Palo Alto officially is going to support that and this is a message from our council that we support it is a for instance.

1785
04:05:04,340 --> 04:05:05,500
Yes, it could be.

1786
04:05:05,900 --> 04:05:07,140
Okay. Thanks.

1787
04:05:08,220 --> 04:05:09,640
I don't think I have any further questions.

1788
04:05:12,040 --> 04:05:25,860
I think when it comes to I guess what you're asking for direction on is the formation and the cadence and I think like given all of our other communities and now we have to make appointments to them.

1789
04:05:26,140 --> 04:05:37,400
I think we should follow the same sort of process when it comes to a pointing and I believe that's what we should do and I think in terms of like the cadence.

1790
04:05:38,020 --> 04:05:46,900
I'm quarterly I think is fine, you know or by annually we have a lot of other committees

1791
04:05:46,900 --> 04:05:52,780
and stuff that we also serve on so I think that we have to be mindful of that too so I'm

1792
04:05:52,780 --> 04:05:54,880
fine with the proposed cadence.

1793
04:05:58,370 --> 04:06:03,970
Yeah, thanks for the report and I think I think our city

1794
04:06:03,970 --> 04:06:10,850
So we've been very active in this area, but creating a structure and organizing the Morris

1795
04:06:10,850 --> 04:06:11,390
really good.

1796
04:06:12,010 --> 04:06:18,110
So I'd definitely like the sequence of having started with our general plan, because

1797
04:06:18,110 --> 04:06:23,550
general plans are a little bit like the Constitution in a way, other than municipal code,

1798
04:06:23,770 --> 04:06:30,630
because that's the document that really involves a lot of the community over a long period

1799
04:06:30,630 --> 04:06:34,370
time and then it gets established as the foundation for stuff.

1800
04:06:35,330 --> 04:06:41,370
And then having the, what are being called the platform pillars, the seven, which I think

1801
04:06:41,370 --> 04:06:47,310
that the council agreed is kind of the large strategic areas.

1802
04:06:48,210 --> 04:06:55,450
And then when we get into specifics, they all are supposed to kind of fit under one of those,

1803
04:06:55,450 --> 04:07:02,330
which I think having the larger category I think is more flexible because I can foresee

1804
04:07:02,330 --> 04:07:09,030
there may be something that emerges in this process and the legislature or in the federal

1805
04:07:09,030 --> 04:07:14,490
government and maybe it was not something that was identified as a priority for that year

1806
04:07:14,490 --> 04:07:20,890
just for the sake of argument. That doesn't mean that we should not pursue it if it fits under

1807
04:07:20,890 --> 04:07:24,570
the one of these strategic areas.

1808
04:07:24,710 --> 04:07:27,390
Obviously, it had to come back to council to say,

1809
04:07:27,390 --> 04:07:31,010
hey, we don't have a superiority, but sometimes,

1810
04:07:31,750 --> 04:07:36,110
if there's funding for certain areas and we need them,

1811
04:07:36,230 --> 04:07:39,010
we need the funds, and we could do something with them,

1812
04:07:40,110 --> 04:07:43,610
then I personally feel we're not gonna turn it away

1813
04:07:43,610 --> 04:07:45,470
just because that year we didn't identify

1814
04:07:45,470 --> 04:07:49,090
the strategic priority for that year.

1815
04:07:49,090 --> 04:07:54,830
So I think having that is part of the framework that's important, I think, because need

1816
04:07:54,830 --> 04:07:55,690
uniform flexibility,

1817
04:07:57,890 --> 04:08:01,830
and then having the, yeah, the consultants, obviously, working with

1818
04:08:01,830 --> 04:08:09,250
our staff, it's always, helps to give good information to council members, because as much

1819
04:08:09,250 --> 04:08:14,690
as we're involved in a lot of, you know, a lot of things is still always takes time and energy

1820
04:08:14,690 --> 04:08:19,070
to figure out and find out what bills are being proposed, who's doing and all that stuff,

1821
04:08:19,070 --> 04:08:23,370
So I think I definitely rely on our staff to give us some research,

1822
04:08:23,370 --> 04:08:25,530
some idea of what they are.

1823
04:08:26,250 --> 04:08:29,750
I think I think a key area, everything's important,

1824
04:08:31,510 --> 04:08:34,310
but money is really the most important thing here.

1825
04:08:35,890 --> 04:08:39,430
Other things too, but any opportunities for the city

1826
04:08:39,430 --> 04:08:44,050
to apply for funding to me is the priority.

1827
04:08:44,050 --> 04:08:51,830
Where is there some potential to get grants for what we have identified as our needs?

1828
04:08:52,470 --> 04:08:59,130
And I know that tends to be the, I think that's, that's why we have tended to do,

1829
04:08:59,250 --> 04:09:00,490
which I think is very important.

1830
04:09:01,070 --> 04:09:06,190
So once we expand it into advocacy and taking position on things,

1831
04:09:07,010 --> 04:09:11,330
if you're sometimes that can dilute that focus, which is,

1832
04:09:11,330 --> 04:09:16,770
you know, let's try to get more funding to do things. So I don't want that to get lost in the

1833
04:09:16,770 --> 04:09:23,070
all the other, you know, I'm sure it won't, but I just feel like that's important to keep in mind.

1834
04:09:23,790 --> 04:09:28,670
Also, I think that we shouldn't include county government. You know, the county does have a lot of

1835
04:09:28,670 --> 04:09:35,550
funds and they, I know, you know, we have a representative Lisa there, but she has to deal with a

1836
04:09:35,550 --> 04:09:42,350
stuff. And I think that we part of our advocacy should also be specifically with the

1837
04:09:42,350 --> 04:09:48,010
county of San Mateo. And we have regional bodies, but somehow I feel like San Mateo

1838
04:09:48,010 --> 04:09:55,470
County is not being specifically mentioned. And so, you know, federal government

1839
04:09:55,470 --> 04:10:02,290
state government, county government, and then regional entities too. Or at least make sure

1840
04:10:02,290 --> 04:10:06,890
is included in there and we don't take it for granted that the county is going to be looking

1841
04:10:06,890 --> 04:10:12,570
after us, which I assume they are, but we're still 20 cities in the county,

1842
04:10:14,990 --> 04:10:15,290
and there's

1843
04:10:15,290 --> 04:10:22,290
sometimes funds that are available. We want to make sure that we are in a good position to do that.

1844
04:10:24,430 --> 04:10:32,070
Yeah, I think you covered it there where there's going to be the focus is to have the

1845
04:10:32,070 --> 04:10:39,410
council advocate for the city, but I foresee there's going to be times when there may be

1846
04:10:39,410 --> 04:10:44,410
differences of opinion on the council. And so it should be understood that every council member

1847
04:10:44,410 --> 04:10:50,530
still has the right to individually, as long as they do individually, to stay their position

1848
04:10:50,530 --> 04:10:57,510
if it differs from what the majority is. Right? So that's. Yes, so that's the case. And I think

1849
04:10:57,510 --> 04:10:59,410
I specifically wrote that in there as well.

1850
04:11:00,350 --> 04:11:04,150
So the legislative platform is the full position of the whole council,

1851
04:11:04,770 --> 04:11:06,790
but as you mentioned, each council member still

1852
04:11:06,790 --> 04:11:09,830
retains their own prerogative to individually advocate.

1853
04:11:09,890 --> 04:11:13,150
As long as they make sure that they state that it's their individual position.

1854
04:11:13,170 --> 04:11:14,370
Yeah, absolutely right.

1855
04:11:15,270 --> 04:11:16,890
But yes, I understand that.

1856
04:11:17,030 --> 04:11:20,990
But at the same time, it's not a, yeah.

1857
04:11:21,470 --> 04:11:22,550
So that's that big dinner.

1858
04:11:25,640 --> 04:11:28,060
And yeah, I think having the committees fine, I don't

1859
04:11:28,060 --> 04:11:33,840
what, you know, brown act issues there are sometimes you want to be flexible.

1860
04:11:35,900 --> 04:11:37,340
And if there's

1861
04:11:38,260 --> 04:11:42,580
it has to be, yeah, I don't, maybe you could speak a little bit about that. What the,

1862
04:11:43,480 --> 04:11:48,480
so this will just be, if advisory, only not a brown act's body. I'm sorry. This will just be

1863
04:11:48,480 --> 04:11:55,200
advisory, only not a brown act's body. No, I know, but is it at hug committee or if it's a standing

1864
04:11:55,200 --> 04:12:03,380
committee, then there's some issues that are standing in permanent committee versus in

1865
04:12:03,380 --> 04:12:10,340
that hot that, okay, we need to check in. In some ways, if you check in with an mayor and

1866
04:12:10,340 --> 04:12:16,580
vice mayor, those are the two officers, sort of brainstorm or had some feedback, they don't

1867
04:12:16,580 --> 04:12:24,220
have the final authority, but if you need to consult with sort of get a council perspective to

1868
04:12:24,220 --> 04:12:31,940
degree that two people can give that is good, I think, understanding is not the final decision,

1869
04:12:33,180 --> 04:12:38,960
but also I just have questions about the existence of the committee so that it's not to

1870
04:12:38,960 --> 04:12:48,980
rigid and to constrain or something. I don't know if that would say like how you're describing

1871
04:12:48,980 --> 04:12:53,680
it is how it's kind of already been done as we had described. So when we meet with the

1872
04:12:53,680 --> 04:13:00,200
mayor in the council, the vice mayor, every spring to figure out what the city's legislative priorities,

1873
04:13:00,660 --> 04:13:04,960
I mean, excuse me, legislative appropriations, I've priorities are going to be like that hasn't,

1874
04:13:05,080 --> 04:13:10,240
we haven't had to like convene a Brown Act body to do that. No, I understand, but

1875
04:13:10,240 --> 04:13:16,960
okay, yeah, so consultation takes place, but now that it's been called out, it's a legislative

1876
04:13:16,960 --> 04:13:24,500
committee. That's that's my question really more. Because yeah, I mean, I think that

1877
04:13:24,500 --> 04:13:29,860
any and all kinds of members can be consulted and sometimes the mayor vice mayor, because

1878
04:13:29,860 --> 04:13:34,900
maybe there's more meetings with them. But I just said that question.

1879
04:13:35,260 --> 04:13:41,560
Cities are you having comments? That's the application on that. I do. I think what Orley is saying is

1880
04:13:41,560 --> 04:13:45,440
generally correct and I think what we'll do is we'll ensure that if the council does want

1881
04:13:46,040 --> 04:13:58,900
on this to happen, it would be more in sort of the nature of like information, exchange or briefings that are generally considered okay under the Brown Act. There are exceptions for that.

1882
04:14:00,140 --> 04:14:13,460
The way the legislative committee is framed in the staff report, I think that's generally the gist of it, but we can work more closely with Orley and the team to figure out how to refine that a little bit more consistent with your comments.

1883
04:14:15,690 --> 04:14:23,390
And through the chair perhaps for flexibility, something that it might be good for us to know is as we've kind of,

1884
04:14:23,390 --> 04:14:33,070
as Orly mentioned, naturally leaned on the mayor and vice mayor for guidance on our, like our funding priorities.

1885
04:14:33,810 --> 04:14:41,970
If this council said that, yes, that same body could be the body who staff could expect to consult if there are questions again.

1886
04:14:41,970 --> 04:14:45,650
It does not have to be a standing committee.

1887
04:14:45,950 --> 04:14:50,730
We have this legislative platform to guide us, but it's more so if there is a questionable

1888
04:14:50,730 --> 04:14:57,610
area, is that Mayor Vice Mayor, combination, the appropriate combination of council members

1889
04:14:57,610 --> 04:14:59,970
to for staff to consult for in a minute.

1890
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:04,080
Initial consultation, any ultimate decision still would come to the full council?

1891
04:15:14,690 --> 04:15:16,550
Do you need additional direction from us?

1892
04:15:19,820 --> 04:15:23,980
Yes. So it sounds like we can take a vote.

1893
04:15:25,140 --> 04:15:29,980
But I think what you have provided is helpful, and it sounds like there are some revisions that we do need to make

1894
04:15:30,640 --> 04:15:35,080
to this, planning the council vote, and so we will do that.

1895
04:15:37,180 --> 04:15:48,160
I just wanted to say we're a relatively small city with a relatively small staff, some of the other regional bodies that I sit on.

1896
04:15:48,500 --> 04:15:52,240
We have dedicated legislative staff working with consultants.

1897
04:15:54,600 --> 04:15:59,400
And so this, I don't want this to be too onerous in two time consuming for staff.

1898
04:15:59,400 --> 04:16:06,320
I mean, our voice is important, but it's relatively small, and so impact is what we should

1899
04:16:06,320 --> 04:16:11,440
be looking at, but we should also try to make sure that we're not overburdening U.S.

1900
04:16:11,440 --> 04:16:17,220
staff with this, I want to hold that clear in our heads.

1901
04:16:18,680 --> 04:16:26,460
So I'm fine with moving forward with this, but again, as council members, we should keep

1902
04:16:26,460 --> 04:16:32,540
mind that, you know, your time is limited, and to the extent that this can get streamlined,

1903
04:16:33,480 --> 04:16:38,420
so then indeed, you have a lot of your time, and maybe a minimal amount of this body's time,

1904
04:16:38,720 --> 04:16:44,860
and that would be my request to you all. And then the last item is, are there any regional

1905
04:16:44,860 --> 04:16:51,740
regional or state issues to be added to the Prairies list? I think, and maybe it's already in here,

1906
04:16:51,740 --> 04:17:00,620
but certainly regional funding for affordable housing and home ownership is something that

1907
04:17:00,620 --> 04:17:04,680
has been discussed and is being discussed at the regional level and it's something that

1908
04:17:04,680 --> 04:17:10,400
I think that we as a city may want to include our legislative platform because it probably

1909
04:17:10,400 --> 04:17:23,260
will require nine county, possibly five or six county legislation to move this formal housing

1910
04:17:23,260 --> 04:17:28,500
funding forward. So I don't know if my fellow council, but if this is the right time to

1911
04:17:28,500 --> 04:17:34,360
interject that, or if something that maybe gets brought back, as on the legislative priority list.

1912
04:17:39,260 --> 04:17:46,140
So, just for clarification, City Manager sounds like we should incorporate this feedback,

1913
04:17:46,340 --> 04:17:48,620
depending the vote, and then bring this item back.

1914
04:17:51,060 --> 04:17:55,860
No, I think we can, depending on the direction it's given, just incorporate that feedback

1915
04:17:55,860 --> 04:18:02,700
if it's in the motion to make these modifications, or if the council is kind of a consensus

1916
04:18:02,700 --> 04:18:06,140
with the matters that council member Romero have registered.

1917
04:18:07,560 --> 04:18:08,900
Okay, thank you.

1918
04:18:12,960 --> 04:18:20,540
And so like when it comes to the, um, I think we are already discussed this, um,

1919
04:18:21,220 --> 04:18:22,000
community formation.

1920
04:18:23,020 --> 04:18:28,620
Yeah, I'm fond of mayor vice mayor, but I'd rather just appoint somebody to it.

1921
04:18:28,820 --> 04:18:33,020
And then we all just to agree on who we appoint to this committee.

1922
04:18:35,860 --> 04:18:45,500
So, uh, for kind of being just to distinguish from having a brown act kind of standing committee,

1923
04:18:45,500 --> 04:18:52,320
are you saying that at the point that the staff has a question, we'd come to the council and then you

1924
04:18:52,320 --> 04:18:56,440
to point an ad hoc committee for that purpose of being convened.

1925
04:19:00,990 --> 04:19:03,750
But just the formation, it says there's

1926
04:19:11,170 --> 04:19:14,390
The side of the formation and the main case from this.

1927
04:19:19,780 --> 04:19:19,940
Yeah.

1928
04:19:20,660 --> 04:19:22,580
You're saying mayor and vice mayor.

1929
04:19:23,820 --> 04:19:26,340
But what's the, what a form of committee.

1930
04:19:27,140 --> 04:19:28,680
Don't we have point people to this committee?

1931
04:19:31,180 --> 04:19:31,600
You could.

1932
04:19:34,260 --> 04:19:37,200
And we want to be.

1933
04:19:38,160 --> 04:19:40,760
Careful with kind of a pointing a standing committee.

1934
04:19:40,960 --> 04:19:42,600
That's not a brownaxe committee.

1935
04:19:43,660 --> 04:20:00,600
So, a more appropriate recommendation would have been for us to ask, at the point that staff has a question, is the council okay with the mayor and vice mayor being the first line of council members whom we discussed this with.

1936
04:20:04,100 --> 04:20:14,700
I mean, I'm fine with that. Because if you were to a point kind of, if you were to just by nature of establishing a committee, it's no longer ad hoc.

1937
04:20:15,080 --> 04:20:20,320
Because I know we had like a, it was a community and economic development and stuff like that.

1938
04:20:20,320 --> 04:20:24,180
So, yes, and those were very temporary in nature.

1939
04:20:24,460 --> 04:20:33,610
So they were at Hock, but if we're saying this is a standing committee, and that's we should

1940
04:20:33,610 --> 04:20:35,730
have written that recommendation a little differently.

1941
04:20:36,770 --> 04:20:44,470
But as of right now, what we're recommending is that you either approve just an theory that

1942
04:20:44,470 --> 04:20:49,650
if an issue comes up, speaks to the mayor and vice mayor, or if an issue comes up, comes

1943
04:20:49,650 --> 04:20:54,650
to the entire council at which point you'll appoint people for us to speak with.

1944
04:20:55,830 --> 04:20:59,490
I'm fine with the least amount of work.

1945
04:21:00,630 --> 04:21:03,270
So we'll stick with the Mayor and Vice Mayor.

1946
04:21:04,450 --> 04:21:05,690
Can we move approval?

1947
04:21:06,810 --> 04:21:12,450
I'd like to make a motion to approve for staff recommendation.

1948
04:21:15,250 --> 04:21:20,090
I'd like to second it, but certainly suggest that we include this

1949
04:21:20,090 --> 04:21:26,350
preservation language within the housing piece. Let's see if this flies and also

1950
04:21:28,830 --> 04:21:30,510
add this

1951
04:21:30,510 --> 04:21:34,090
regional funding for affordable housing as

1952
04:21:34,090 --> 04:21:38,370
another item on our priority list for legislative

1953
04:21:38,370 --> 04:21:40,250
legislative varieties.

1954
04:21:45,340 --> 04:21:47,380
Okay, do we need a row calls out?

1955
04:21:47,480 --> 04:21:48,800
I don't think

1956
04:21:48,800 --> 04:21:51,400
council and rebargon is present.

1957
04:21:54,310 --> 04:22:01,540
We do not at this point because she's our president. Okay, so we have a motion a second. I'm all in favor

1958
04:22:03,930 --> 04:22:05,090
motion passes

1959
04:22:07,550 --> 04:22:08,710
So I

1960
04:22:08,710 --> 04:22:09,530
would just

1961
04:22:09,530 --> 04:22:15,990
recommend that we make some agenda amendments to our agenda or the next and changes at this point

1962
04:22:16,850 --> 04:22:23,890
That we probably just continue items 9.2 and 9.3 to a future meeting and we just continue with

1963
04:22:24,310 --> 04:22:25,930
on the rest of the agenda.

1964
04:22:26,530 --> 04:22:27,050
How's that going to?

1965
04:22:29,330 --> 04:22:31,090
Oh, this is going to have my agenda in front of me.

1966
04:22:31,250 --> 04:22:33,670
Could you read what 9.2 is?

1967
04:22:34,050 --> 04:22:37,590
So, at that point, you would be the discussion of the term limits, okay?

1968
04:22:38,030 --> 04:22:40,770
And 9.2 would be the code of conduct.

1969
04:22:40,870 --> 04:22:41,810
Okay, thank you.

1970
04:22:42,130 --> 04:22:46,250
I think in the agenda packet, they're not there flipped the numbering.

1971
04:22:46,250 --> 04:22:47,730
So that needs to be corrected.

1972
04:22:48,090 --> 04:22:51,110
But these are the gestures of the two lines of that will be continuing.

1973
04:22:53,110 --> 04:22:58,310
So, yeah, so we have a motion and a second, I'll second it.

1974
04:22:58,370 --> 04:23:01,710
I'm so clean of all in favor.

1975
04:23:02,410 --> 04:23:02,770
Yes.

1976
04:23:03,510 --> 04:23:03,790
Yes.

1977
04:23:05,450 --> 04:23:05,570
Yes.

1978
04:23:06,730 --> 04:23:08,050
A future meeting.

1979
04:23:09,490 --> 04:23:10,350
What's the guy doing?

1980
04:23:11,530 --> 04:23:17,110
So we'll be proceeding now with back to our original schedule.

1981
04:23:17,650 --> 04:23:19,990
We'll be opening it up for public comment.

1982
04:23:26,790 --> 04:23:29,550
We have any speakers, let's write them down on the agenda.

1983
04:23:31,570 --> 04:23:31,850
Yes.

1984
04:23:32,770 --> 04:23:36,970
First speaker, Luis Rosas, followed by Leland, Francois.

1985
04:23:47,080 --> 04:23:49,240
Next speaker, Leland, Francois.

1986
04:23:50,980 --> 04:23:52,540
I was keeping it to two minutes.

1987
04:23:59,690 --> 04:24:02,690
We didn't need to know, you know, counsel, staff,

1988
04:24:02,890 --> 04:24:04,250
and the members of the public.

1989
04:24:04,950 --> 04:24:06,210
Leland, Francois.

1990
04:24:06,510 --> 04:24:07,730
Excuse me.

1991
04:24:08,290 --> 04:24:10,330
I came in on the, I have a brief comment.

1992
04:24:10,510 --> 04:24:11,630
Basically, this is your opinion.

1993
04:24:11,630 --> 04:24:27,690
I came in on the last end of your verification of 3.4 and 3.5, that's the international support legislation and public safety communications.

1994
04:24:27,690 --> 04:24:36,710
And there's a phenomenon that's traveling across the globe right now and I think I'm qualified

1995
04:24:36,710 --> 04:24:43,090
to make common on that radio off, radio Ksi 68 WN, trying to set up a station in Mountain

1996
04:24:43,090 --> 04:24:55,450
View, formerly with W60T, Oakland Radio Club, KBI 776 in Oakland, and WN6BNT, and the

1997
04:24:55,450 --> 04:25:02,170
The first thing about today's technology is a product of the new telecommunications act signed

1998
04:25:02,170 --> 04:25:06,450
by Congress under the Bill Clinton administration, 1996,

1999
04:25:08,830 --> 04:25:10,490
and this fell down in a digital

2000
04:25:10,490 --> 04:25:21,530
decision of the airways has been enhanced, pregnancy has been so, and basically the new law

2001
04:25:21,530 --> 04:25:29,670
It's not in correlation with the old laws, going back to 1934, and it's causing a public safety

2002
04:25:29,670 --> 04:25:36,970
communications, but not only international communications, but local domestic communications

2003
04:25:36,970 --> 04:25:39,850
as far as 911 communications.

2004
04:25:40,870 --> 04:25:45,610
Now, the infrastructure that needs to be set up here and this place that has become known as

2005
04:25:45,610 --> 04:25:53,670
call about to. Let me give you an example. I need the email of the police. Please give me a radio

2006
04:25:53,670 --> 04:26:01,010
check. Please to dispatch. I need to make a point. Either officer or chief loo.

2007
04:26:10,580 --> 04:26:11,020
Okay. Thank you.

2008
04:26:11,980 --> 04:26:17,000
That's signal. Travels from this building. But we have dish always. Sorry, Mr. Franz,

2009
04:26:17,160 --> 04:26:20,440
for two minutes or up. All right. Thank you. I appreciate I thought it was three minutes.

2010
04:26:20,440 --> 04:26:27,920
But let me just say that this, the past in this legislation should have been proceeded

2011
04:26:27,920 --> 04:26:29,700
by public comment.

2012
04:26:30,020 --> 04:26:33,260
We're so moonlight like myself would come in and give you some honest information.

2013
04:26:33,680 --> 04:26:35,580
I'm going to speak as do we have?

2014
04:26:35,780 --> 04:26:36,140
It's already.

2015
04:26:38,280 --> 04:26:38,300
And.

2016
04:26:39,440 --> 04:26:41,120
It's like they're six more.

2017
04:26:41,460 --> 04:26:41,680
Okay.

2018
04:26:42,200 --> 04:26:42,480
I understand.

2019
04:26:43,060 --> 04:26:43,540
Please.

2020
04:26:44,860 --> 04:26:45,820
Can you feel it?

2021
04:26:45,820 --> 04:26:46,460
Black or Black?

2022
04:26:47,160 --> 04:26:55,980
let communications public safety communications please point of order all right I can continue this

2023
04:26:55,980 --> 04:27:01,600
where I would like to meet with your legislators and further comment on what I need to say

2024
04:27:02,180 --> 04:27:08,380
with your attendance at the piece of order to please department send a fire American medical services

2025
04:27:08,380 --> 04:27:16,560
and the dispatch service in the country thank you thank you next speaker

2026
04:27:17,860 --> 04:27:21,980
Revenue followed by Mia O'Brien.

2027
04:27:25,900 --> 04:27:32,360
Good evening council. I'm just here to follow up on my public records request asked two weeks ago

2028
04:27:32,360 --> 04:27:40,860
I had come to state that I had not received a response to the city yet. The city has 10 days to respond and give a timeline when that

2029
04:27:41,160 --> 04:27:47,980
request will be completed and it has been two more weeks and there's been no update that's come from the city and the request is

2030
04:27:47,980 --> 04:27:52,840
guarding the flock cameras and that information is public record so that needs to be shared.

2031
04:27:53,400 --> 04:27:58,460
Apart from that, I just wanted to say how I find extremely concerning how the city council

2032
04:27:58,460 --> 04:28:04,600
and city officials treated people in this room today. It was clear that when there was antagonizing

2033
04:28:04,600 --> 04:28:11,480
from the Zionist side of speakers tonight and they were giving priority. A lot of antagonists,

2034
04:28:11,780 --> 04:28:17,760
a lot of the people who came to speak out against the I.H.R.A. definition were told to not antagonize

2035
04:28:17,760 --> 04:28:21,580
which is not fair. We clearly saw that the Zionist side was the one doing that

2036
04:28:21,580 --> 04:28:25,340
organizing, but we were seeing that the people of color came to speak where the

2037
04:28:25,340 --> 04:28:27,500
ones who are being persecuted and that is not okay.

2038
04:28:33,080 --> 04:28:38,840
Next speaker, Mia O'Brien. Mia O'Brien. Next speaker, Angel,

2039
04:28:41,460 --> 04:28:43,540
all by DeBora Lewis Ferdus.

2040
04:28:47,650 --> 04:28:48,210
Hi, good evening,

2041
04:28:48,450 --> 04:28:53,470
city council members and mayor, whips the Lincoln tonight. You should be

2042
04:28:53,470 --> 04:28:59,670
show you yourself. For being a hypocrite, yes, a hypocrite. This is going to bespoke against

2043
04:28:59,670 --> 04:29:06,250
anti-Semitism and anti-Sigmatic behavior and let me be clear. I also condone any anti-Semitic

2044
04:29:06,250 --> 04:29:15,750
behavior of any form and intimidation. You say, quote, I will not be silent and I apply you for it.

2045
04:29:15,930 --> 04:29:22,370
In the type of anti-Sigmatic behavior has no place in our community yet. After a few months

2046
04:29:22,370 --> 04:29:27,530
since your brother made a statement, some social media about calling ICE to our city of

2047
04:29:27,530 --> 04:29:36,770
Miss Palo Alto, you have you have remained silent. And I immigrant, Rodoic, behavior has been on the

2048
04:29:36,770 --> 04:29:44,650
rise since Trump's first term in 2016. In fact, it went from 200, a million, a million cases were

2049
04:29:44,650 --> 04:29:49,910
in 2016 to over a 1,100 cases as of today this year.

2050
04:29:50,390 --> 04:29:51,650
Last year.

2051
04:30:00,750 --> 04:30:08,130
I'm asking you tonight if you are going to pay you silence in continuing brothers remarks that he made on social media.

2052
04:30:08,790 --> 04:30:13,610
Are you going to ask you brother to apologize to the residents of East Palo Alto, particular to Latinos?

2053
04:30:08,790 --> 04:30:13,610
Are you going to ask you brother to apologize to the residents of East Palo Alto, particular to Latinos?

2054
04:30:15,530 --> 04:30:17,030
Just know what you mean, some facts.

2055
04:30:15,530 --> 04:30:17,030
Just know what you mean, some facts.

2056
04:30:17,970 --> 04:30:24,950
So if father had been 17 Latinos immigrants died this year, 32 by last year in detention centers.

2057
04:30:17,970 --> 04:30:24,950
So if father had been 17 Latinos immigrants died this year, 32 by last year in detention centers.

2058
04:30:24,950 --> 04:30:32,410
You let it die in two to two, four, and you let the horns and in hundreds of missing.

2059
04:30:24,950 --> 04:30:36,030
late in the day in 1244, and we are in the hundreds of missing, and we still, still,

2060
04:30:33,030 --> 04:30:38,390
And we still.. you still haven't say anything about your brother's remarks.

2061
04:30:36,430 --> 04:30:38,410
had and say anything about his remarks.

2062
04:30:38,870 --> 04:30:40,050
Soon we'll end it.

2063
04:30:38,970 --> 04:30:40,050
Shane Willingman.

2064
04:30:42,220 --> 04:30:42,900
Thank you.

2065
04:30:42,300 --> 04:30:46,480
Thank you, next speaker, the Boraloo's Virges fought by Killer Dixon.

2066
04:30:43,340 --> 04:30:46,440
Next speaker, the borroth Lewis Virges, fought by kail Dixon.

2067
04:30:52,700 --> 04:31:00,520
Good evening, Council, and staff, I had originally plan to speak to items 9.2 and 9.3.

2068
04:30:52,700 --> 04:30:53,640
Good evening, Council.

2069
04:30:53,640 --> 04:31:03,520
and staff. I had originally planned to speak to items 9.2 and 9.3. However, since those items

2070
04:31:00,520 --> 04:31:09,020
However, since those items are being continued, I wish to share the following, I find it utterly

2071
04:31:03,520 --> 04:31:11,280
are being continued, I wish to share the following. I find it utterly disrespectful that the

2072
04:31:09,020 --> 04:31:17,180
disrespectful that the council failed to say anything to those of us who came here to address

2073
04:31:11,280 --> 04:31:19,320
council failed to say anything to those of us who came here to address others, to address items

2074
04:31:17,180 --> 04:31:21,480
others, to address items other than 3.4 tonight.

2075
04:31:19,320 --> 04:31:27,080
other than 3.4 tonight. When the break occurred, we said patiently for three hours and listen

2076
04:31:22,200 --> 04:31:28,500
When the break occurred, we sat patiently for three hours and listened to the various

2077
04:31:27,080 --> 04:31:34,660
to the various sides, speak about their feelings. We waited 45 minutes while you guys retired

2078
04:31:28,500 --> 04:31:36,540
side, speak about their feelings. We waited 45 minutes while you guys retired upward to avoid

2079
04:31:34,660 --> 04:31:41,480
upward to avoid some of the chit in some of the chatter. And nothing was said to us. Not once did

2080
04:31:36,540 --> 04:31:42,280
some of the chit in some of the chatter. And nothing was said to us, not once did anyone say

2081
04:31:41,480 --> 04:31:47,360
anyone say to those of you who are waiting for another item. Please know that we're going to retire

2082
04:31:42,280 --> 04:31:47,820
to those of you who are waiting for another item. Please know that we're going to retire upstairs

2083
04:31:47,360 --> 04:31:52,160
upstairs and we'll be back and we will address those items. Perhaps better that you did

2084
04:31:47,820 --> 04:31:53,180
and we'll be back and we will address those items. Perhaps better that you did not, since now,

2085
04:31:52,160 --> 04:31:58,200
not since now, we have discovered that you decide it to move those items and to continue

2086
04:31:53,180 --> 04:32:00,040
We have discovered that you decide it to move those items and to continue those items to another time.

2087
04:31:58,200 --> 04:32:04,020
those items to another time. I have no problem with items being continued. I really don't.

2088
04:32:00,540 --> 04:32:04,160
I have no problem with items being continued. I really don't.

2089
04:32:04,640 --> 04:32:09,280
But we sat here all of that time and it should have been noticed. Someone should have taken

2090
04:32:04,680 --> 04:32:08,220
But we sat here all of that time and it should have been noticed.

2091
04:32:08,280 --> 04:32:16,160
Someone should have taken notice that there are only perhaps five or six slips for those of us who wanted to speak to those items.

2092
04:32:09,280 --> 04:32:15,300
notice that there are only perhaps five or six slips for those of us who wanted to speak

2093
04:32:15,300 --> 04:32:22,620
to those items. We should have been allowed to speak to those items today. Instead, you entertained

2094
04:32:16,440 --> 04:32:19,860
We should have been allowed to speak to those items today.

2095
04:32:19,860 --> 04:32:27,960
Instead, you entertained item 9.1, an item which clearly was intended from staff to

2096
04:32:22,620 --> 04:32:30,060
item 9.1, an item which clearly was intended from staff to council, which would have rarely

2097
04:32:27,960 --> 04:32:33,440
counsel, which would have rarely had any input from those of us who are waiting to speak

2098
04:32:30,060 --> 04:32:38,500
had any input from those of us who are waiting to speak on 9.2 and 9.3. I am of the firm position

2099
04:32:33,440 --> 04:32:36,380
on 9.2 and 9.3.

2100
04:32:37,000 --> 04:32:43,440
I am of the firm position that the counsel should have table that item, and not 9.2 and

2101
04:32:38,500 --> 04:32:44,520
that the council should have tabled that item, and not 9.2 and 9.3.

2102
04:32:44,280 --> 04:32:55,620
So I implore you to be considerate in the future of those of us who take our time to come out and express our opinion about items that are a great concern to us.

2103
04:32:45,020 --> 04:32:55,580
So I implore you to be considerate in the future of those of us who take our time to come out and express our opinion about items that are a great concern to us.

2104
04:32:55,800 --> 04:33:01,680
I'm very disappointed and I leave here tonight, feeling like we were disrespected and ignored.

2105
04:32:55,860 --> 04:33:01,680
I'm very disappointed and I leave here tonight, feeling like we were disrespected and ignored.

2106
04:33:02,280 --> 04:33:06,600
So I just want to say, please be mindful in the future. Thank you.

2107
04:33:02,340 --> 04:33:05,500
So I just want to say, please be mindful in the future. Thank you.

2108
04:33:06,600 --> 04:33:10,920
Thank you. Next speaker, Gail Dixon, followed by a module.

2109
04:33:06,920 --> 04:33:11,000
Thank you. Next speaker, Gail Dixon, followed by a module.

2110
04:33:16,860 --> 04:33:20,640
I should have taken a next to five minute nap.

2111
04:33:17,500 --> 04:33:20,540
I should have taken a next five minute nap.

2112
04:33:21,320 --> 04:33:23,080
But it's been exhausting tonight.

2113
04:33:21,460 --> 04:33:23,100
Let's have been exhausting tonight.

2114
04:33:23,820 --> 04:33:28,280
And I kind of concur with Miss Verges Lewis.

2115
04:33:24,260 --> 04:33:28,320
And I kind of concur with Ms. Verges Lewis.

2116
04:33:28,680 --> 04:33:29,860
I was at Lewis Verges.

2117
04:33:28,760 --> 04:33:29,860
I was at Lewis Verges.

2118
04:33:31,340 --> 04:33:35,540
And I'm worn out, and I feel disrespected,

2119
04:33:31,540 --> 04:33:33,140
And I'm worn out.

2120
04:33:33,380 --> 04:33:37,880
And I feel disrespected and taken advantage of

2121
04:33:36,260 --> 04:33:40,840
and taken advantage of when you let somebody come and dear

2122
04:33:38,540 --> 04:33:42,640
when you let somebody come and dear, you're consummating.

2123
04:33:40,840 --> 04:33:47,200
you're consummating and I can't help but not to feel that if I had

2124
04:33:42,640 --> 04:33:51,620
And I can't help, but not to feel that if I had had done half, and not even a quarter percent, I would have been roasted.

2125
04:33:47,200 --> 04:33:52,540
had done half, not even a quarter percent, I would have been roasted and I

2126
04:33:52,340 --> 04:33:54,040
And I don't appreciate it.

2127
04:33:52,540 --> 04:33:58,720
don't appreciate it. You let robber officers come in here and come in

2128
04:33:54,660 --> 04:34:06,200
You let robber officers come in here and come in there and take up my tax dollars and pretend that they have a first amendment right to be abusive.

2129
04:33:58,720 --> 04:34:04,460
dear and take up my tax dollars and pretend that they have a first amendment

2130
04:34:04,460 --> 04:34:14,020
to be abusive. And that's all it is being abusive. But in this let me talk about

2131
04:34:06,960 --> 04:34:09,480
And that's all it is being abusive.

2132
04:34:09,480 --> 04:34:17,860
But in this, let me talk about, I appreciate the fact that they have dotted off the lanes

2133
04:34:14,020 --> 04:34:19,680
I appreciate the fact that they have dotted off the lanes out in front of where

2134
04:34:17,860 --> 04:34:25,780
out in front of where I stay, they haven't done anything since last week, and I just

2135
04:34:19,680 --> 04:34:26,360
I stay. They haven't done anything since last week. And I just wonder and after

2136
04:34:25,780 --> 04:34:33,000
wondering after three years when they're going to get it done, and I'd appreciate it

2137
04:34:26,360 --> 04:34:28,520
three years when they're going to get it done.

2138
04:34:30,540 --> 04:34:33,320
And I'd appreciate it because

2139
04:34:33,000 --> 04:34:34,800
because it seems like it's getting worse.

2140
04:34:33,320 --> 04:34:40,580
the things like it's getting worse, and sat there and watched the traffic come through and

2141
04:34:35,640 --> 04:34:40,340
And sat there and watched the traffic come through.

2142
04:34:40,580 --> 04:34:45,140
I said, how do we get all this traffic, it used to be that you can get through, it's all

2143
04:34:40,620 --> 04:34:42,420
And I said, how do we get all this traffic?

2144
04:34:42,640 --> 04:34:45,200
It used to be that you can get through a lot

2145
04:34:45,140 --> 04:34:50,320
out to anywhere from five, I would factor, worth it the post office, and we'd do it time

2146
04:34:45,200 --> 04:34:47,880
though anywhere from five, I would

2147
04:34:47,880 --> 04:34:49,780
fact it were at the post office, and we would

2148
04:34:49,780 --> 04:34:54,480
time how long it would take us to get from one

2149
04:34:51,180 --> 04:34:58,580
how long it would take us to get from one block to the nest, and go pick up a letter carrier

2150
04:34:54,480 --> 04:34:59,640
block to the nest, and go pick up a letter carrier or whatever.

2151
04:34:58,580 --> 04:35:06,540
or whatever. And the traffic, I think the console is responsible for all this damn traffic,

2152
04:34:59,640 --> 04:35:07,660
and the traffic, I think the console is responsible for all this damn traffic is ridiculous.

2153
04:35:06,980 --> 04:35:16,960
it's ridiculous. We shouldn't have Palo Alto's traffic coming down Nual. And along the woodland,

2154
04:35:09,560 --> 04:35:17,720
We shouldn't have Palo Alto's traffic coming down Nual, and along the woodland, the creek.

2155
04:35:17,300 --> 04:35:25,560
the creek, we shouldn't have it at all. Thank you. Thank you.

2156
04:35:18,000 --> 04:35:20,100
We shouldn't have it at all. Thank you.

2157
04:35:20,420 --> 04:35:22,940
Thank you. Next speaker, Mario, followed by Luis Rosos.

2158
04:35:22,940 --> 04:35:23,980
bit

2159
04:35:28,300 --> 04:35:40,240
of chair, point of order, I want to say this that I for one and willing to reconsider and

2160
04:35:29,880 --> 04:35:32,860
Next speaker,

2161
04:35:32,860 --> 04:35:40,620
So I want to say this that I for one and willing to reconsider and hear those

2162
04:35:40,240 --> 04:35:45,420
hear those items. It was the mayor who suggested we continued them because a council member

2163
04:35:40,620 --> 04:35:40,920
items.

2164
04:35:41,040 --> 04:35:46,440
It was the mayor who suggested we continue them because a council member dropped out

2165
04:35:45,420 --> 04:35:51,020
dropped out and they're only four of us. That's not necessarily a good reason to stop things,

2166
04:35:46,440 --> 04:35:48,220
and they're only four of us.

2167
04:35:48,540 --> 04:35:51,020
That's not necessarily a good reason to stop things.

2168
04:35:51,200 --> 04:35:56,720
there's still four of us here. So I think maybe we should reconsider if there's people here

2169
04:35:51,260 --> 04:35:52,220
There's still four of us here.

2170
04:35:53,560 --> 04:35:58,340
So I think maybe we should reconsider if there's people here want to speak on that.

2171
04:35:56,720 --> 04:36:11,240
When I speak on that, I don't see why we have to, you know, if I leave, I don't expect the rest of the council to stop that's my opinion, but because Marta left all of the sudden we have to stop.

2172
04:35:58,700 --> 04:36:01,080
I don't see why we have to.

2173
04:36:01,080 --> 04:36:07,860
You know, if I leave, I don't expect the rest of the cancer to just stop, that's my opinion.

2174
04:36:08,180 --> 04:36:11,200
But because Martin left, all of the sudden we have to stop.

2175
04:36:14,240 --> 04:36:16,140
We can see it without next speaker.

2176
04:36:17,080 --> 04:36:17,980
Next speaker, Mario?

2177
04:36:17,980 --> 04:36:20,140
So, you know,

2178
04:36:23,140 --> 04:36:30,480
this country is the best thing that we have in the world,

2179
04:36:33,610 --> 04:36:35,510
there is no other country like you.

2180
04:36:37,650 --> 04:36:40,190
Listen to the Spanish speakers,

2181
04:36:38,050 --> 04:36:40,350
Listen to the Spanish language,

2182
04:36:44,960 --> 04:36:47,840
because they come to colonize them here,

2183
04:36:44,980 --> 04:36:52,230
because they came with the dinosaurs here, they were killing us with another.

2184
04:36:49,870 --> 04:36:52,390
they are killing us with another,

2185
04:36:54,180 --> 04:36:56,740
These people are civilized,

2186
04:36:55,020 --> 04:36:56,740
these people are civilized,

2187
04:36:59,730 --> 04:37:02,390
what will happen to your students who will not see me here,

2188
04:36:59,730 --> 04:37:01,050
what will happen to your columns?

2189
04:37:01,390 --> 04:37:02,590
They will not see me here.

2190
04:37:06,060 --> 04:37:07,440
when you see them in the streets,

2191
04:37:06,080 --> 04:37:07,400
They will live in the barracks.

2192
04:37:10,400 --> 04:37:13,200
They will also have the Americans, they want a lot.

2193
04:37:10,420 --> 04:37:13,200
they also have the Americans, they want a lot,

2194
04:37:16,800 --> 04:37:17,440
they should die.

2195
04:37:16,800 --> 04:37:17,420
They should die.

2196
04:37:17,440 --> 04:37:18,000
So,

2197
04:37:20,100 --> 04:37:23,540
What will happen if you will see the slaves here?

2198
04:37:20,260 --> 04:37:23,480
what would you do if you would not see the screen here?

2199
04:37:26,920 --> 04:37:28,120
I will be in Africa.

2200
04:37:27,040 --> 04:37:31,200
I would like to see the screen in Africa, in

2201
04:37:28,120 --> 04:37:29,180
I will be in Africa.

2202
04:37:33,040 --> 04:37:35,320
In Africa there are slaves.

2203
04:37:33,440 --> 04:37:35,260
Africa, all there are screen.

2204
04:37:35,320 --> 04:37:35,440
In this case, we

2205
04:37:38,760 --> 04:37:42,340
want

2206
04:37:39,340 --> 04:37:41,000
That's perfect.

2207
04:37:44,510 --> 04:37:45,850
What do you want to see?

2208
04:37:44,810 --> 04:37:59,000
to see the mistakes of this country to attack it, look at all the freedom of expression,

2209
04:37:46,650 --> 04:37:53,730
The mistakes of this country to attack it?

2210
04:37:55,700 --> 04:37:58,820
Look at all those things, all the freedom of expression.

2211
04:38:02,460 --> 04:38:09,760
These are the people who protest here in their country, not to take a break.

2212
04:38:02,920 --> 04:38:10,840
these people who protest here in their country should be

2213
04:38:12,340 --> 04:38:14,480
I'm going to be there in the city with their whites.

2214
04:38:12,860 --> 04:38:14,540
arrested with their whites.

2215
04:38:14,540 --> 04:38:15,320
I don't

2216
04:38:18,140 --> 04:38:20,680
I don't know if I've been there, but in the truth.

2217
04:38:18,320 --> 04:38:21,360
know what I've said, but the truth is,

2218
04:38:24,840 --> 04:38:28,560
When they came here,

2219
04:38:24,840 --> 04:38:28,520
when I came here,

2220
04:38:32,210 --> 04:38:34,410
the Indians were the slaves of the Spanish,

2221
04:38:32,250 --> 04:38:34,370
the Indians were the slaves of the Spanish.

2222
04:38:37,440 --> 04:38:38,440
they would die,

2223
04:38:37,460 --> 04:38:38,440
They died.

2224
04:39:35,360 --> 04:39:37,920
cloud that the vision is of that

2225
04:39:35,360 --> 04:39:37,940
cloud that the vision is of that,

2226
04:39:43,230 --> 04:39:45,310
here in the New York,

2227
04:39:43,530 --> 04:39:45,430
here a new in the game,

2228
04:39:48,180 --> 04:39:49,180
in the US,

2229
04:39:48,220 --> 04:39:48,900
in Africa,

2230
04:39:51,790 --> 04:39:54,490
in the US, in the US,

2231
04:39:52,170 --> 04:39:54,070
speaks of the Hispanic,

2232
04:39:56,540 --> 04:39:58,940
but it seems that it does not give the white

2233
04:39:56,860 --> 04:40:00,440
but it seems that it does not give the white blank as it is the orange,

2234
04:39:58,940 --> 04:40:00,440
of the white as it has the courage,

2235
04:40:04,250 --> 04:40:08,450
these are the people of the United States, and we are with the pink,

2236
04:40:04,430 --> 04:40:06,710
and then the population of the country is

2237
04:40:06,710 --> 04:40:07,370
a little bit on the other side,

2238
04:40:07,690 --> 04:40:08,390
with a lot of errors,

2239
04:40:12,310 --> 04:40:13,150
but the

2240
04:40:12,530 --> 04:40:13,150
but the

2241
04:40:13,150 --> 04:40:14,930
Mexican, in the United

2242
04:40:13,470 --> 04:40:15,230
in the United

2243
04:40:17,200 --> 04:40:19,960
States, in the United States, in the United States, in the United States,

2244
04:40:17,500 --> 04:40:17,500
States,

2245
04:40:17,500 --> 04:40:18,680
in the United States,

2246
04:40:18,820 --> 04:40:19,340
in the United States,

2247
04:40:19,340 --> 04:40:19,680
in the United States,

2248
04:40:19,980 --> 04:40:19,980
you

2249
04:40:19,980 --> 04:40:19,980
you

2250
04:40:22,830 --> 04:40:25,690
have to leave you that you are discriminated.

2251
04:40:22,830 --> 04:40:24,310
have to leave those

2252
04:40:24,310 --> 04:40:25,690
that are discriminated.

2253
04:40:28,960 --> 04:40:30,000
Thank you.

2254
04:40:28,980 --> 04:40:30,020
Thank you.

2255
04:40:30,000 --> 04:40:30,760
Is it?

2256
04:40:30,020 --> 04:40:31,340
It's not a word.

2257
04:40:31,360 --> 04:40:32,200
Is it?

2258
04:40:31,600 --> 04:40:32,220
It's a word.

2259
04:40:32,200 --> 04:40:32,900
Oh, in the borders.

2260
04:40:32,220 --> 04:40:32,840
In a border.

2261
04:40:33,180 --> 04:40:34,640
In your Mario, in your Mario,

2262
04:40:33,220 --> 04:40:33,840
In your Mario.

2263
04:40:34,160 --> 04:40:35,180
In your Mario, you can say,

2264
04:40:34,740 --> 04:40:35,720
it's in a thing.

2265
04:40:35,280 --> 04:40:35,780
a cosa.

2266
04:40:36,540 --> 04:40:37,500
No, it's not a word.

2267
04:40:37,060 --> 04:40:37,840
It's not saying, no,

2268
04:40:37,500 --> 04:40:38,400
They said no mentiras,

2269
04:40:37,900 --> 04:40:39,940
mentiras, because I said,

2270
04:40:38,660 --> 04:40:40,980
because I said, what I said was the

2271
04:40:39,940 --> 04:40:40,980
what I said was the

2272
04:40:40,980 --> 04:40:43,000
I was supportive the other dog.

2273
04:40:40,980 --> 04:40:41,760
I was supported

2274
04:40:41,760 --> 04:40:44,500
of the other dog, vulnerable people.

2275
04:40:43,420 --> 04:40:44,840
Vulnerable people that

2276
04:40:44,760 --> 04:40:45,940
That includes white people.

2277
04:40:44,840 --> 04:40:45,960
includes white people.

2278
04:40:46,960 --> 04:40:49,000
So no diga cosa racist.

2279
04:40:46,980 --> 04:40:47,860
So, no,

2280
04:40:47,860 --> 04:40:49,180
no, diga cosa resistas.

2281
04:40:49,240 --> 04:40:50,660
So okay, and no diga.

2282
04:40:49,400 --> 04:40:49,880
So, okay,

2283
04:40:49,900 --> 04:40:50,660
and no, diga,

2284
04:40:50,800 --> 04:40:52,560
what I don't say, no,

2285
04:40:50,900 --> 04:40:52,600
What I don't say, no,

2286
04:40:52,560 --> 04:40:52,820
no,

2287
04:40:52,600 --> 04:40:53,820
no me ponga palabra's.

2288
04:40:52,920 --> 04:40:53,460
may I not speak,

2289
04:40:53,740 --> 04:40:54,540
where I don't,

2290
04:40:53,820 --> 04:40:55,080
Where I don't say,

2291
04:40:54,900 --> 04:40:55,480
diga,

2292
04:40:55,580 --> 04:40:56,340
they're not saying,

2293
04:40:55,660 --> 04:40:56,520
it's not more like saying

2294
04:40:56,420 --> 04:40:57,300
to confess,

2295
04:40:56,520 --> 04:40:58,320
to describe the human being this

2296
04:40:57,500 --> 04:40:57,800
the man,

2297
04:40:57,960 --> 04:40:58,740
this is the Lord.

2298
04:40:58,740 --> 04:41:01,100
So no, no se ponga tambajo.

2299
04:41:01,640 --> 04:41:06,320
We are excluded why people, i said people who are vulnerable

2300
04:41:06,320 --> 04:41:08,260
No no no, no, no, no.

2301
04:41:08,320 --> 04:41:09,640
I see pain.

2302
04:41:17,030 --> 04:41:18,110
Sign SDKs

2303
04:41:20,570 --> 04:41:22,170
Li Luis enJustitai

2304
04:41:22,170 --> 04:41:22,430
s

2305
04:41:22,430 --> 04:41:23,810
wyvniegre

2306
04:41:24,810 --> 04:41:25,530
SECUR

2307
04:41:26,210 --> 04:41:30,770
SECUR

2308
04:41:32,170 --> 04:41:33,970
Let's proceed with the next speaker.

2309
04:41:32,230 --> 04:41:33,970
let's proceed with the next speaker.

2310
04:41:36,930 --> 04:41:41,050
So, you know, we've got a lot of data that we've got to change.

2311
04:41:37,310 --> 04:41:37,390
So.

2312
04:41:38,390 --> 04:41:40,650
You know, forget about our backup window.

2313
04:41:41,090 --> 04:41:42,370
That's what's been.

2314
04:41:41,210 --> 04:41:43,130
That's what's been in all of the world.

2315
04:41:42,650 --> 04:41:43,770
You know, oh, it's okay.

2316
04:41:43,130 --> 04:41:43,770
Oh, it's okay.

2317
04:41:44,370 --> 04:41:45,750
And why people in the Senate,

2318
04:41:44,670 --> 04:41:47,470
Why people in this in English, they've always learned how to learn.

2319
04:41:46,030 --> 04:41:47,410
they've saved us all those little family.

2320
04:41:47,690 --> 04:41:49,170
Because you know, I understand it without any kind of...

2321
04:41:47,790 --> 04:41:49,170
Because you're not in the Senate without kind of.

2322
04:41:49,170 --> 04:41:50,470
It is racist.

2323
04:41:49,170 --> 04:41:50,510
It is, it is racist.

2324
04:41:51,870 --> 04:41:52,350
Follow

2325
04:41:54,540 --> 04:41:55,340
But please.

2326
04:41:54,680 --> 04:41:55,160
me.

2327
04:41:55,460 --> 04:41:55,940
Please.

2328
04:41:57,580 --> 04:41:59,180
We can be pretty sure, we're calling it my time.

2329
04:41:57,640 --> 04:41:58,020
We can go.

2330
04:41:58,180 --> 04:41:59,100
We're coming right now.

2331
04:41:59,900 --> 04:42:02,280
I just want to say there was a lot of community members here,

2332
04:41:59,900 --> 04:42:03,000
I just want to say there was a lot of community members here.

2333
04:42:02,280 --> 04:42:06,200
here, considering for both the policy and community, but also these multi-community.

2334
04:42:03,080 --> 04:42:04,620
Consumer for both the parts in community,

2335
04:42:04,620 --> 04:42:09,400
but also these multiple community. And what I want to speak to that is when we look at the

2336
04:42:07,020 --> 04:42:11,000
And what I want to speak to that is, when we look at the times that we live in, we're living

2337
04:42:09,400 --> 04:42:15,160
times that we live in, we're living in crisis. And I think most of us would want leaders that

2338
04:42:11,000 --> 04:42:11,520
in crisis.

2339
04:42:12,800 --> 04:42:20,020
And I think most of us would want leaders that, you know, should all for the occasion, gap

2340
04:42:16,440 --> 04:42:23,740
you know, or for the occasion, gap by this are going up, go short by this are going up, people

2341
04:42:20,020 --> 04:42:26,000
items are going up, go short, items are going up, people can't pay the rent anymore, they

2342
04:42:23,740 --> 04:42:29,740
can't pay the rent anymore. They still have to pay for their children. And I think that policies that

2343
04:42:26,000 --> 04:42:32,280
have to pay for the children. And I think that policies that the people we've bought,

2344
04:42:30,760 --> 04:42:34,780
that the people we've bought or what appreciate our rent

2345
04:42:32,440 --> 04:42:40,220
I would appreciate it, are rent free school lunches, free public transportation. And these are

2346
04:42:34,780 --> 04:42:39,180
brings is free school lunch is free public transportation

2347
04:42:39,180 --> 04:42:41,300
and these are all things that are possible

2348
04:42:40,220 --> 04:42:44,440
all things that are possible and all things that have been done in other cities. I think that there

2349
04:42:41,300 --> 04:42:43,280
and all things that have been done in other cities.

2350
04:42:43,900 --> 04:42:47,300
I think that would be much more greatly needed

2351
04:42:44,440 --> 04:42:51,240
would be much more greatly needed to help people in these parts of the lives during these times of crisis.

2352
04:42:47,300 --> 04:42:50,060
to help people in these parts of the living

2353
04:42:50,060 --> 04:42:51,240
in these terms of crisis.

2354
04:42:51,240 --> 04:42:57,320
and it's much more important than a part of that from the mayor, it's much more important than

2355
04:42:51,340 --> 04:42:54,960
And it's much more important than a part of that from the mayor.

2356
04:42:54,960 --> 04:43:09,560
It's much more than detecting genet vital Zionists right now in the time of crisis that's worth an esports or an EPA, we need leaders who stand up for their people.

2357
04:42:57,320 --> 04:43:02,600
detecting genath vitals line that's right now in the time of crisis that's worth an

2358
04:43:02,600 --> 04:43:09,560
esports or an EPA within leaders who stand up for their cities and who stand up for their people.

2359
04:43:11,280 --> 04:43:18,780
Inviting as Zionists to espollow auto is like inviting eyes to espollow auto.

2360
04:43:11,440 --> 04:43:19,740
Inviting is an iron that's to ease follow auto, is like inviting eyes to esports auto. It would be like

2361
04:43:18,780 --> 04:43:23,180
It would be like inviting the Nazi party to ease pollalto.

2362
04:43:19,740 --> 04:43:25,900
inviting the Nazi party to ease blow all to these people are dangerous and

2363
04:43:23,700 --> 04:43:27,680
These people are dangerous and pros and dangerous to us.

2364
04:43:26,620 --> 04:43:31,720
pros and dangerous to us. If they're there to report Palestinians, they could

2365
04:43:27,820 --> 04:43:31,180
If they're there to report Palestinians to ICE,

2366
04:43:31,280 --> 04:43:34,080
they could also do the same for our community members here.

2367
04:43:31,720 --> 04:43:35,860
also do the same for our community members here, and we need leaders that

2368
04:43:34,880 --> 04:43:40,500
And we need leaders that take that seriously and don't invite a bunch of scientists like Mark Dynand did.

2369
04:43:35,860 --> 04:43:40,460
take that seriously, and don't invite a bunch of scientists like Mark Dynand did.

2370
04:43:41,420 --> 04:43:43,340
Thank you, and I appreciate your time.

2371
04:43:41,540 --> 04:43:43,180
Thank you and I appreciate your time.

2372
04:43:44,740 --> 04:43:47,380
Thank you, and those of the last speakers for public comment.

2373
04:43:44,920 --> 04:43:47,380
Thank you and those of the last speakers for public comment.

2374
04:43:47,380 --> 04:43:57,440
All right, thank you, so I don't necessarily address public comments, but what I would

2375
04:43:47,380 --> 04:43:57,440
All right, thank you, so I don't necessarily address public comments, but what I would

2376
04:43:57,440 --> 04:44:02,980
like to say is that, you know, today we did have some disruptions that were, we had to

2377
04:43:57,440 --> 04:44:02,980
like to say is that, you know, today we did have some disruptions that were, we had to

2378
04:44:02,980 --> 04:44:09,480
protocol to address those disruptions, and there were some questions about how efficiently

2379
04:44:02,980 --> 04:44:09,480
protocol to address those disruptions, and there were some questions about how efficiently

2380
04:44:09,480 --> 04:44:10,520
we can handle that.

2381
04:44:09,480 --> 04:44:10,520
we can handle that.

2382
04:44:10,520 --> 04:44:17,500
And so that kind of impacted the amount of time that we were away from, you know, from

2383
04:44:10,520 --> 04:44:17,500
And so that kind of impacted the amount of time that we were away from, you know, from

2384
04:44:17,500 --> 04:44:18,860
along the meeting to proceed.

2385
04:44:17,500 --> 04:44:18,860
along the meeting to proceed.

2386
04:44:20,780 --> 04:44:25,180
And so given that, we also have several other items that we need to get to tonight,

2387
04:44:20,780 --> 04:44:25,180
And so given that, we also have several other items that we need to get to tonight,

2388
04:44:25,280 --> 04:44:29,800
I felt that it was best, and I know it's unfortunate that some people can't speak on those

2389
04:44:25,280 --> 04:44:29,800
I felt that it was best, and I know it's unfortunate that some people can't speak on those

2390
04:44:29,800 --> 04:44:30,100
items.

2391
04:44:29,800 --> 04:44:30,100
items.

2392
04:44:31,720 --> 04:44:35,640
And, you know, we'll bring them back in a future meeting, but it was really because we have

2393
04:44:31,720 --> 04:44:35,640
And, you know, we'll bring them back in a future meeting, but it was really because we have

2394
04:44:35,640 --> 04:44:37,900
several other items that we'd like to get to tonight.

2395
04:44:35,640 --> 04:44:37,900
several other items that we'd like to get to tonight.

2396
04:44:37,900 --> 04:44:42,880
And we have other consultants and people who are waiting for special presentations as I felt

2397
04:44:37,900 --> 04:44:42,880
And we have other consultants and people who are waiting for special presentations as I felt

2398
04:44:42,880 --> 04:44:43,660
that.

2399
04:44:42,880 --> 04:44:43,660
that.

2400
04:44:43,900 --> 04:44:46,540
Those items could come back probably at a future meeting.

2401
04:44:43,900 --> 04:44:46,540
Those items could come back probably at a future meeting.

2402
04:44:49,500 --> 04:44:52,960
Well, I thought you did it because Martha was not here.

2403
04:44:49,500 --> 04:44:52,960
Well, I thought you did it because Martha was not here.

2404
04:44:53,180 --> 04:44:56,020
And I don't think that's fair for the entire council nor for the public.

2405
04:44:56,560 --> 04:44:58,160
I stated, if I leave the meeting.

2406
04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:02,140
I know should not stop just because I left.

2407
04:45:03,680 --> 04:45:04,340
Thank you.

2408
04:45:04,520 --> 04:45:05,120
I'll be proceed.

2409
04:45:05,260 --> 04:45:10,320
Mr. Mayor, if I'm here on this night and since you've brought it up, I would be willing to stay

2410
04:45:11,220 --> 04:45:16,760
after 12 o'clock, which we can do as long as we pass a motion to discuss these two items.

2411
04:45:16,840 --> 04:45:18,720
There are people in the audience who want to talk about it.

2412
04:45:18,820 --> 04:45:20,420
I see no reason why we couldn't do it.

2413
04:45:20,540 --> 04:45:25,660
It is generally much of a run, who is not able to stay beyond those hours.

2414
04:45:26,200 --> 04:45:27,360
But we are here.

2415
04:45:27,360 --> 04:45:33,220
It shouldn't be any reason that we should deny residents in the room, the rights to speak on these two items.

2416
04:45:34,580 --> 04:45:41,900
You know, we've had this issue happen before when we discussed the residential parking permit program where Martha couldn't attend that meeting.

2417
04:45:42,480 --> 04:45:50,140
And I believe Councilmember Romero, you suggested that that item be continued because you wanted the full council to be present to discuss that item.

2418
04:45:50,140 --> 04:45:52,400
And I just want to make sure that our meetings are productive.

2419
04:45:53,960 --> 04:45:57,520
And so I would just like to continue with this meeting.

2420
04:45:58,400 --> 04:46:02,240
And when we have a full council, we can adjust those items.

2421
04:46:03,020 --> 04:46:03,320
So.

2422
04:46:03,320 --> 04:46:05,000
So there's a lot of having a full council.

2423
04:46:05,280 --> 04:46:08,140
And this is the end nine folks in the public to speak.

2424
04:46:08,540 --> 04:46:09,820
That's that is, you know, now,

2425
04:46:09,960 --> 04:46:10,820
still getting that that is it.

2426
04:46:10,860 --> 04:46:12,820
You would not want to do this because you don't have five members.

2427
04:46:13,080 --> 04:46:13,320
Is that correct?

2428
04:46:13,600 --> 04:46:14,800
No, that's what she said.

2429
04:46:14,980 --> 04:46:15,900
No, that's what she just said.

2430
04:46:15,960 --> 04:46:17,420
You want to bring it back to a full council.

2431
04:46:17,420 --> 04:46:21,320
We'll be proceeding with the next agenda items. Thank you.

2432
04:46:28,810 --> 04:46:30,890
We'll be presenting on item 6.1.

2433
04:46:31,050 --> 04:46:36,490
This is the first time home by our program research. Thank you so much council. My name is

2434
04:46:36,490 --> 04:46:41,510
Garen Gamacho and I'm the Housing and Economic Development Manager. Tonight I'm a company.

2435
04:46:42,150 --> 04:46:44,510
Oh, sorry. I just quit the presentation.

2436
04:46:47,760 --> 04:46:51,300
By Alex Wagner from Heart of San Mateo County who will

2437
04:46:51,300 --> 04:46:58,180
co-presenting this item. Hopefully it's a short-term-init presentation on our first-time home-buyer

2438
04:46:58,180 --> 04:47:05,220
program feasibility research. This is the agenda for tonight. We're presenting an overview of five

2439
04:47:05,220 --> 04:47:12,300
different program concepts, so we're not going into great details at the end you can tell us which

2440
04:47:12,300 --> 04:47:20,500
programs you want more follow-up on. Researching the feasibility of first-time home-buyer program is part

2441
04:47:20,500 --> 04:47:26,600
Council Strategic Priorities over the past four months we reached out to 18 different banks

2442
04:47:26,600 --> 04:47:32,100
and were able to interview three banks and credit unions and two non-profits who have operated

2443
04:47:32,100 --> 04:47:33,740
for some home-buyer programs.

2444
04:47:34,600 --> 04:47:41,320
We also conducted a landscape and costs analysis, so on now pass it to Alex to begin with

2445
04:47:41,320 --> 04:47:42,920
an overview of the landscape.

2446
04:47:44,440 --> 04:47:48,180
Good evening, City Council, thank you for having me here tonight.

2447
04:47:49,100 --> 04:47:55,160
I wanted to start a discussion with an analysis of the home buyer market in San Mateo County.

2448
04:47:55,900 --> 04:48:02,380
As you can see here, interest rates and home prices have steadily increased since the end of 2022.

2449
04:48:03,380 --> 04:48:10,820
As of 4126, the median home price in San Mateo County was $2.08 million.

2450
04:48:10,820 --> 04:48:14,320
And for East Palo Alto, it was about $1.1 million.

2451
04:48:16,600 --> 04:48:19,080
Similarly, interest rates have continued to increase,

2452
04:48:19,540 --> 04:48:22,940
and the standard 30 year fixed rate mortgage

2453
04:48:22,940 --> 04:48:25,820
has an interest rate of 6.3%.

2454
04:48:26,560 --> 04:48:29,460
That has made it very difficult both for home buyers,

2455
04:48:30,100 --> 04:48:34,880
and for entities that operate first-time home buyer programs.

2456
04:48:35,680 --> 04:48:39,580
This rising interest rate is part of what caused heart to shutter.

2457
04:48:39,580 --> 04:48:47,200
it's loan first time home by our loan product. As there were a number of other more competitive

2458
04:48:47,200 --> 04:48:53,380
options, that home buyers were trending towards using and because of the high interest rate,

2459
04:48:54,560 --> 04:48:59,860
our loan product was one step above whatever the standard interest rate was, and folks just couldn't

2460
04:48:59,860 --> 04:49:07,500
afford to have a higher interest rate than what the standard 30 year mortgage is being quoted at this point.

2461
04:49:08,940 --> 04:49:10,280
Next slide, please.

2462
04:49:12,380 --> 04:49:17,420
So tonight I'll be giving you an overview of first-time home buyer programs.

2463
04:49:18,180 --> 04:49:20,120
You can see the list here.

2464
04:49:20,140 --> 04:49:24,600
Those include down payment assistance program, closing costs, rate reduction,

2465
04:49:25,120 --> 04:49:28,280
free-givable loans, and home buyer education programs.

2466
04:49:28,900 --> 04:49:30,140
We can go to the next slide.

2467
04:49:31,160 --> 04:49:34,640
The first type of program I'm going to be talking about tonight

2468
04:49:34,640 --> 04:49:36,300
is a down payment assistance program.

2469
04:49:36,300 --> 04:49:40,840
It's the most traditional straightforward type of program.

2470
04:49:41,920 --> 04:49:46,440
You can either structure this as a traditional loan with a lower interest rate,

2471
04:49:47,100 --> 04:49:54,520
or a silent second loan, which is only repaid upon sale or transfer of the property.

2472
04:49:54,920 --> 04:49:59,440
There are some other details that I could get into if we decided to explore this in more detail.

2473
04:50:00,260 --> 04:50:08,740
But some examples from around the Bay Area that we found typically ranged from about $50,000 to up to $500,000.

2474
04:50:09,580 --> 04:50:13,720
These include this Antioch and San Francisco programs.

2475
04:50:15,420 --> 04:50:16,980
I'm going to go to the next slide. Thank you.

2476
04:50:17,260 --> 04:50:24,840
The next type of program I want to discuss that's increasingly popular, especially with limited funds for a program.

2477
04:50:24,840 --> 04:50:32,520
a closing cost assistance program, closing costs are the last expense that a home buyer has.

2478
04:50:33,980 --> 04:50:38,400
They typically comprise of attorney fees, realtor fees, taxes, and other

2479
04:50:39,660 --> 04:50:45,880
the final fees related to the transaction. They can typically cost about two to six percent of

2480
04:50:45,880 --> 04:50:51,880
the home's total purchase price. Based off of the average cost of a home and he's piled out

2481
04:50:51,880 --> 04:51:00,220
that would be between $22,000 and $66,000 as you can imagine that can be difficult for a family

2482
04:51:00,220 --> 04:51:06,800
who has drained most of their savings to go towards an expensive down payment. So these types

2483
04:51:06,800 --> 04:51:13,180
of programs have become increasingly popular to help families cover those final costs. Some of

2484
04:51:13,180 --> 04:51:19,500
the examples we found were between $5 and $15,000 and those are typically structures as a grant.

2485
04:51:19,500 --> 04:51:22,400
So once those funds are expanded, they're gone.

2486
04:51:23,460 --> 04:51:26,960
Some examples are the San Mateo County and Conqueror programs.

2487
04:51:29,160 --> 04:51:35,420
Another less traditional but more complex program type is the rate reduction program.

2488
04:51:36,420 --> 04:51:47,860
When you're finalizing a mortgage for a home, you can buy down points, which each point equates to 0.25% of the interest rate on your mortgage.

2489
04:51:47,860 --> 04:51:56,040
It costs about 1% of the total mortgage amount to buy down points.

2490
04:51:57,860 --> 04:52:04,780
That equates to about each point would be about 8,800 dollars, based off of that average home price.

2491
04:52:06,340 --> 04:52:14,440
And over the long term of a 30-year mortgage, this can actually lead to very significant savings for a home buyer.

2492
04:52:14,440 --> 04:52:27,600
Based off of the calculation we ran for just $17,600, you could save $180,000 over the course of a mortgage if you bought down 4 points.

2493
04:52:27,980 --> 04:52:30,180
So 1,4% of interest.

2494
04:52:31,580 --> 04:52:35,960
This is something that anyone can do as part of their normal traditional mortgage,

2495
04:52:36,900 --> 04:52:43,740
but the city could sponsor a program to help allocate funds to do those by-downs.

2496
04:52:43,740 --> 04:52:51,120
We go to the next slide. Thank you. Next is a forgivable loan program. This program is a little bit

2497
04:52:51,120 --> 04:52:58,080
trickier to administer, especially because the amounts are larger and as the name of the program suggests

2498
04:52:58,080 --> 04:53:05,100
you oftentimes don't get the funds back. Typically those loans are forgiven upon certain conditions

2499
04:53:05,100 --> 04:53:11,540
being that typically holding the property for a certain number of years. And these programs are oftentimes

2500
04:53:11,540 --> 04:53:23,180
used to target folks in a particularly vulnerable demographic, or who struggle with to achieve

2501
04:53:23,180 --> 04:53:29,380
home ownership because of structural conditions. And those are typically around $50 to $80,000

2502
04:53:29,380 --> 04:53:37,880
and there are oftentimes stacked with another finding source. And our oftentimes offered by banks

2503
04:53:37,880 --> 04:53:41,080
in conjunction with other state or city programs.

2504
04:53:41,940 --> 04:53:42,800
Next slide.

2505
04:53:43,900 --> 04:53:48,960
Last, the last type of program that we're going to be talking about tonight is a home buyer education program.

2506
04:53:50,060 --> 04:53:53,240
Some of you may have heard of these first-time home buyer workshops.

2507
04:53:53,800 --> 04:53:55,880
It's something that hurts still offers,

2508
04:53:56,660 --> 04:54:03,340
but they're oftentimes combined either as a requirement or as a incentive for programs,

2509
04:54:03,340 --> 04:54:09,020
such as a down payment assistance program or a closing cost program.

2510
04:54:09,840 --> 04:54:12,220
These are typically structured as a series of workshops

2511
04:54:12,220 --> 04:54:15,300
that help first-time home buyers become more familiar

2512
04:54:16,000 --> 04:54:19,260
with the complicated process of buying home.

2513
04:54:19,560 --> 04:54:24,340
They'll have three sessions, one with a realtor, one with a housing professional

2514
04:54:24,340 --> 04:54:28,560
and then maybe one with a housing attorney or something like that.

2515
04:54:28,560 --> 04:54:33,060
and these can really help first time home buyer

2516
04:54:33,060 --> 04:54:35,880
to say significant costs by understanding

2517
04:54:35,880 --> 04:54:41,060
the strict timelines that can be related to the home buying process

2518
04:54:41,060 --> 04:54:45,960
and really are a big value, I would say,

2519
04:54:46,600 --> 04:54:49,920
especially when combined with another sort of program.

2520
04:54:51,940 --> 04:54:52,940
Thanks, Alex.

2521
04:54:52,960 --> 04:54:54,380
I'd like to go ahead and yeah.

2522
04:54:55,860 --> 04:54:58,080
So now that Alex has provided an overview

2523
04:54:58,080 --> 04:55:03,220
of the different program options. I wanted to highlight an example of a low program

2524
04:55:03,220 --> 04:55:11,740
the city has administered, which is the column ADU JDU loan program for homeowners to have up to

2525
04:55:11,740 --> 04:55:19,360
$80,000 loan to build accessory dwelling units. We estimate that the start-up costs to administer

2526
04:55:20,000 --> 04:55:27,680
eight loans in down payment assistance program, which is our set goal in our housing element and

2527
04:55:27,680 --> 04:55:36,140
affordable housing strategy would cost the city nearly $150,000, and this includes costs associated

2528
04:55:36,140 --> 04:55:41,920
with loan processing, outreach, education, and home buyer support, housing administration

2529
04:55:41,920 --> 04:55:48,780
costs, legal staff costs, and finance staff costs, and doesn't include ongoing other potential

2530
04:55:48,780 --> 04:55:57,660
costs. The city only has about $45,000 in its housing assistance fund available for

2531
04:55:57,660 --> 04:56:04,380
a first time home buyer program, which is not enough to support the goal number of households listed

2532
04:56:04,380 --> 04:56:12,100
in our housing element. So for this reason, these are the recommendations from staff. So as Alex

2533
04:56:12,100 --> 04:56:20,100
mentioned, high home prices elevated interest rates, as well as limited local funding and the administrative

2534
04:56:20,100 --> 04:56:28,040
demands of a loan program would result in higher per household costs with relatively low overall

2535
04:56:28,040 --> 04:56:35,580
impact and also based on our stakeholder interviews, market analysis and review of available funding.

2536
04:56:36,200 --> 04:56:42,120
We think that a traditional for some home buyer program centered on large down payment assistance

2537
04:56:42,120 --> 04:56:50,260
loans is currently not feasible for the city. However, we can have more targeted and cost-efficient

2538
04:56:50,260 --> 04:56:57,140
approaches, like home-wire education and counseling, like closing cost assistance and leveraging

2539
04:56:57,140 --> 04:56:59,300
partnerships and external funding.

2540
04:57:01,490 --> 04:57:05,890
These alternatives also complement existing programs,

2541
04:57:06,630 --> 04:57:11,490
rather than duplicating them and would allow the city to assist a greater number of residents,

2542
04:57:11,490 --> 04:57:15,670
while aligning with available resources and staff capacity.

2543
04:57:17,410 --> 04:57:20,490
So now that we've completed the assessment on feasibility,

2544
04:57:20,990 --> 04:57:24,670
we'd like your direction to return with more detailed program design,

2545
04:57:25,410 --> 04:57:29,450
funding strategy and the implementation plan should you be interested

2546
04:57:29,450 --> 04:57:31,710
in any of the programs we present it.

2547
04:57:31,870 --> 04:57:32,950
Thank you.

2548
04:57:35,980 --> 04:57:41,780
Thank you for the background and the research.

2549
04:57:41,780 --> 04:57:54,980
Um, and if you can go back to the slide on the funding, um, if that's 11. So the

2550
04:57:54,980 --> 04:57:59,040
estimate amount of funding. So what funding sources do that comprise of or where is

2551
04:57:59,040 --> 04:58:04,900
those funds coming from? Yes. So it's a special fund, the Housing Assistance Fund. So it's

2552
04:58:04,900 --> 04:58:11,140
specifically for programs like these first time home buyer programs. Um, we have also measured

2553
04:58:11,140 --> 04:58:18,840
JJ that was passed by taxpayers that could be another funding source because it specifically

2554
04:58:20,060 --> 04:58:26,880
states, home buyers, support for home buyers as well. Since the funds are currently being

2555
04:58:26,880 --> 04:58:31,880
used in this fiscal year, we would have to wait until the next fiscal year to see how much

2556
04:58:31,880 --> 04:58:36,720
revenue we generate and see if there's any additional available funding we can pair together.

2557
04:58:38,230 --> 04:58:54,670
Okay, so essentially, like when we voted back in October to allocate all this funding to rent payments, direct payments, the legal services, the homeless services, I believe how much did we allocate to that, and total, pretty.

2558
04:58:55,050 --> 04:58:57,150
Yes, about 1.1 million.

2559
04:58:57,330 --> 04:58:58,230
1.1 million.

2560
04:59:00,350 --> 04:59:07,790
So, that's when we, that obviously will be getting an update on that, those programs, right?

2561
04:59:08,090 --> 04:59:08,650
That is correct.

2562
04:59:09,330 --> 04:59:09,410
Okay.

2563
04:59:11,150 --> 04:59:15,690
So, and I think that, how much will we're spending the previous year on those services?

2564
04:59:16,810 --> 04:59:21,910
I believe closer to, um, let's say, 700,000.

2565
04:59:22,130 --> 04:59:22,590
What was that, right?

2566
04:59:22,650 --> 04:59:24,330
100,000 or 500,000.

2567
04:59:25,330 --> 04:59:28,770
I would have to go back and check it was administered through the

2568
04:59:28,770 --> 04:59:32,990
Rensialization program that I'm so essentially doubled the amount of funding

2569
04:59:32,990 --> 04:59:39,210
or spending on those programs. Yes we increased it. Okay so there's obviously

2570
04:59:39,210 --> 04:59:42,910
moving forward this is just research there's a potential opportunity to balance

2571
04:59:42,910 --> 04:59:47,570
that out and figure out how we could there's some flexibility in terms of funding and

2572
04:59:47,570 --> 04:59:52,250
other sources are from those sources that we could potentially allocate more in the future.

2573
04:59:52,250 --> 04:59:59,790
Yes, and I think part of the additional funding strategy is also to look at outside.

2574
05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:03,820
State, federal, regional funding sources that we can put together.

2575
05:00:04,760 --> 05:00:04,760
Okay.

2576
05:00:06,820 --> 05:00:15,320
So that sounds good. But I just had a question. Are we, when you did this research, are you just

2577
05:00:15,320 --> 05:00:19,840
basing it on market rate housing or how could we disnear all the scope of this program to

2578
05:00:19,840 --> 05:00:24,720
just say, you know, we're supporting houses, purchase under our inclusionary ordinance?

2579
05:00:26,340 --> 05:00:31,960
That is a good approach. I think we could do that as well.

2580
05:00:33,040 --> 05:00:37,540
Yeah, we hadn't thought about that. So that's something that we could research a little bit.

2581
05:00:37,560 --> 05:00:41,320
Because you're not looking at million dollar homes. It might be less than 800,000.

2582
05:00:41,580 --> 05:00:49,840
So it might be more helpful to support people that are looking to get those affordable units,

2583
05:00:49,840 --> 05:00:58,000
Um, whether it's a loan, um, you know, for, like, closing costs or even for, um, some of

2584
05:00:58,000 --> 05:01:00,580
the down payment or a small proportion of the down payment.

2585
05:01:01,120 --> 05:01:05,780
So yeah, I can, sorry, I don't mean to interrupt, um, but I can speak a little bit to that

2586
05:01:05,780 --> 05:01:06,200
as well.

2587
05:01:06,260 --> 05:01:13,120
I, I, we, one of the organizations we spoke with, um, the, uh, Bay Area Alliance for a

2588
05:01:13,120 --> 05:01:22,300
global home ownership, Baja does operate some programs that are specifically targeted towards

2589
05:01:22,300 --> 05:01:31,120
BMR home ownership, and we connected also with First Citizens Bank, who has been the first

2590
05:01:31,120 --> 05:01:36,260
lender on a number of some of those mortgages related to BMR properties.

2591
05:01:36,260 --> 05:01:39,620
So that is something that is a possibility.

2592
05:01:41,000 --> 05:01:45,140
And we will focus on folks who have experienced with that.

2593
05:01:45,880 --> 05:01:50,660
OK, because I was thinking that this might be more useful for people who are in the BMR

2594
05:01:50,660 --> 05:01:55,300
category than people who can obviously afford to buy something at market rate.

2595
05:01:55,440 --> 05:02:01,960
Even though you know it might be helpful, you know if you need that extra 2 3 5% of the down payment.

2596
05:02:01,960 --> 05:02:29,780
I'm sorry if I may interrupt, I think one of the things that is difficult for us to guess or determine is what is that threshold amount that is helpful enough, whether it's by percentage or actual dollars I don't know, and that may also differ on different income for different income groups.

2597
05:02:29,780 --> 05:02:37,520
But obviously, if we make it a smaller amount, we can help a lot more people, but there's

2598
05:02:37,520 --> 05:02:43,360
some question of will we reach the threshold that is helpful enough that someone can actually

2599
05:02:43,360 --> 05:02:49,680
buy a home, even if it's an affordable home?

2600
05:02:50,100 --> 05:02:59,660
Yeah, and in heart-operated a closing-consistence program with a $75,000 grant that we got a few years back

2601
05:02:59,660 --> 05:03:11,640
And we allocated the full $75,000 of closing costs assistance in five to $10,000 grants within

2602
05:03:11,640 --> 05:03:12,500
two months.

2603
05:03:13,040 --> 05:03:18,560
So I will say, obviously, there's some drawback to structuring them as grants and that the funds

2604
05:03:18,560 --> 05:03:19,320
aren't repaid.

2605
05:03:20,040 --> 05:03:24,300
But there's definitely a demand for some of that closing cost assistance.

2606
05:03:24,300 --> 05:03:25,400
Yeah,

2607
05:03:28,010 --> 05:03:34,950
thank you. Those are most of the questions I had is maybe narrow in the scope of this program and

2608
05:03:34,950 --> 05:03:42,730
seeing how they would apply to some BMR units, especially like when we're considering our inclusionary ordinance and

2609
05:03:42,730 --> 05:03:50,530
you know that we have 10% of those properties are being basically so that

2610
05:03:50,530 --> 05:03:58,310
are affordable. It's made affordable to people making less than 120% of median area income.

2611
05:03:59,530 --> 05:04:00,630
So, yep, thank you.

2612
05:04:04,640 --> 05:04:11,520
If I may, I have a number of questions that I think are more fundamental than what we're

2613
05:04:11,520 --> 05:04:16,820
discussing here. Number one is if we had a program, who would this be serving?

2614
05:04:17,720 --> 05:04:26,600
So, are we talking about trying to get to the extent possible in the 18 months residency, maybe

2615
05:04:26,600 --> 05:04:34,040
the longest we can go, but are we trying to get East Palo Altoans to buy single family homes,

2616
05:04:36,080 --> 05:04:37,000
which might be difficult.

2617
05:04:37,140 --> 05:04:41,500
But again, I don't think I would be in favor of just throwing out a bunch of money for anybody

2618
05:04:41,500 --> 05:04:49,220
to come and, you know, utilize it when the folks most in need, whether they're renters or potentially

2619
05:04:49,220 --> 05:04:52,460
folks who might be on the cusp of homeownership, live here locally.

2620
05:04:54,200 --> 05:04:59,460
The other question is, what income levels, I mean, this council has moved, has reduced the

2621
05:04:59,460 --> 05:05:06,720
number of BMR units that we're going to produce, going from 20 to 10% and increase that affordability

2622
05:05:06,720 --> 05:05:13,640
up to straight 120% of any of my and I mean I can provide you some of those numbers but I think

2623
05:05:13,640 --> 05:05:19,300
that's also a question of like who exactly would we be serving in terms of income levels to

2624
05:05:19,300 --> 05:05:27,040
qualify and then there is the question also about well what about putting some of this money into

2625
05:05:28,120 --> 05:05:34,100
another affordable vehicle which would be land trust which would then allow a land trust that

2626
05:05:34,100 --> 05:05:39,400
preservation work that would then allow those if they could make it work on a home

2627
05:05:39,400 --> 05:05:47,380
ownership side to put those make them affordable and perpetuity segregate the

2628
05:05:47,380 --> 05:05:57,110
land from the improvement and then perhaps have a more reasonable mortgage on that

2629
05:05:58,530 --> 05:06:06,150
piece of land which would be possible. I do want to just give you a few numbers. I got

2630
05:06:06,150 --> 05:06:13,130
up my bound mortgage calculator which I just had to pay about $180 when I was in grad school

2631
05:06:13,130 --> 05:06:19,170
and now you can get them on your phone for five bucks. The HPs are available. So, you know,

2632
05:06:19,190 --> 05:06:26,110
very quickly the amount of subsidy that we would have to provide someone at a hundred percent

2633
05:06:26,110 --> 05:06:36,130
of AMI to be a homeowner in this city is approximately $525,000 for one home.

2634
05:06:36,710 --> 05:06:42,010
If you're at a hundred and two percent of AMI, it'd be closer to $410,000.

2635
05:06:42,630 --> 05:06:46,810
It's the subsidy that we need to provide to make that unit affordable to those families.

2636
05:06:48,290 --> 05:06:55,430
When you look at those numbers and then you figure out what is the leverage we can get on affordable rental housing.

2637
05:06:56,150 --> 05:07:01,350
I'm going to leave for it. I was 55 years and then we move on from there, other leverages

2638
05:07:01,350 --> 05:07:08,170
anywhere from $30 to $60,000 a unit. It just does not make a lot of sense to have these,

2639
05:07:08,250 --> 05:07:14,270
and I actually believe that our consultants and our staff is saying the same thing, that

2640
05:07:14,270 --> 05:07:18,810
given where costs are today, given where interest rates are.

2641
05:07:20,590 --> 05:07:31,170
A first-time home buyer program that is based on, you know, trying to get 120, even 120%

2642
05:07:32,090 --> 05:07:36,530
folks living in this pot of water would require an anordinate amount of money that would

2643
05:07:36,530 --> 05:07:45,850
provide the future production of multiple units of rental housing, given that, you know,

2644
05:07:45,850 --> 05:07:52,570
Council has actually, on its inclusionary side, also, step those inclusionary numbers, the

2645
05:07:52,570 --> 05:07:59,170
affordability, you know, to reach 100% of MI, there are some of these folks that would qualify

2646
05:07:59,170 --> 05:08:00,830
for these rental units.

2647
05:08:01,250 --> 05:08:10,010
So I do think this is right now, I think we should be focusing on the home buyer education

2648
05:08:10,010 --> 05:08:15,470
and counseling fees, but closing costs the system program is, it's, it's, it's

2649
05:08:15,470 --> 05:08:19,210
to minimize whether it's five to twenty thousand dollars. I'm not sure that's going

2650
05:08:19,210 --> 05:08:22,990
to make a big difference, but I would want to make sure that if we did a closing cost assistance

2651
05:08:22,990 --> 05:08:29,650
program, it would be targeted to the extent we can, the people in East Palo Alto and the people

2652
05:08:29,650 --> 05:08:38,210
at, not at 150, 140 or even 100, perhaps 120% of AMI, but again, that is a

2653
05:08:38,210 --> 05:08:45,170
diminimous reduction in the cost of ownership, given those gaps that range from 400,000 to

2654
05:08:45,170 --> 05:08:49,410
about 550,000 for folks to be able to afford those units.

2655
05:08:51,670 --> 05:08:57,570
So those are my comments, this point I would hope that staff could come back with perhaps the

2656
05:08:57,570 --> 05:09:02,010
by our education counseling program first and then we'll see what the

2657
05:09:02,010 --> 05:09:08,050
universe is like within the city. Obviously if heart is having problems and

2658
05:09:08,050 --> 05:09:12,750
they were founded a lot on not just not on the rental housing side, but actually

2659
05:09:12,750 --> 05:09:17,790
on the homeownership side. If they are having difficulty or had difficulty in

2660
05:09:17,790 --> 05:09:23,350
actually had to turn off that program, I cannot believe that we as a city will be

2661
05:09:23,350 --> 05:09:32,550
more effective or we'll be able to reach folks so that they could actually purchase these units

2662
05:09:32,550 --> 05:09:41,170
in this interest rate climate as well as where prices of housing prices are between 1.1

2663
05:09:41,170 --> 05:09:47,350
million to 1.3 and I've seen even higher. And by the way those numbers that I calculated were based

2664
05:09:47,350 --> 05:09:52,650
on the lowest cost of 1.1 million. That's where the spending gaps of 400 to $500 and $50,000

2665
05:09:52,650 --> 05:09:59,450
come from. They would be much higher if we moved up to the 1.3 million number. Thank you.

2666
05:10:03,460 --> 05:10:07,920
Do you have any further comments from accounts for or do you have or then if we don't

2667
05:10:07,920 --> 05:10:14,380
then we've got a public comment? Yeah, I was going to, yeah, I agree with your recommendations.

2668
05:10:14,780 --> 05:10:16,400
I think

2669
05:10:20,080 --> 05:10:25,340
assisting the greatest number of people to me, that's probably the priority because

2670
05:10:25,920 --> 05:10:36,080
With limited funds, you know, if we only end up helping a few people, I don't think that's fair to everybody else, regardless of their income level.

2671
05:10:37,520 --> 05:10:49,300
So, I think doing education and counseling, and yeah, I think loans for the closing costs, at least that's something that at the end can help that.

2672
05:10:49,300 --> 05:10:52,480
It's already somebody who's in the process.

2673
05:10:53,460 --> 05:10:55,000
And obviously, leveraging, I think,

2674
05:10:55,000 --> 05:10:58,680
the more we can leverage other funds that are out there.

2675
05:10:59,760 --> 05:11:03,860
And in order to determine the amounts and who and how,

2676
05:11:04,000 --> 05:11:05,280
I think that's where we do need,

2677
05:11:05,620 --> 05:11:06,960
or more research needs to be done.

2678
05:11:09,760 --> 05:11:12,420
You know, including, I think we mentioned this before,

2679
05:11:14,400 --> 05:11:18,220
we talk about the percentage of median income and law,

2680
05:11:18,220 --> 05:11:21,160
But we need to put actual figures also.

2681
05:11:21,440 --> 05:11:24,880
So we know what amounts of money we're talking about,

2682
05:11:25,400 --> 05:11:30,100
the different income levels, and also have, you know,

2683
05:11:30,200 --> 05:11:37,780
the statistics about Ispala Alto and the population and their income levels.

2684
05:11:38,200 --> 05:11:42,460
And because that's where we can then see where the need is,

2685
05:11:42,680 --> 05:11:45,500
where potentially we could have some impact.

2686
05:11:45,500 --> 05:11:49,620
But given the fact that,

2687
05:11:51,830 --> 05:11:53,390
well, I'll just leave it at that.

2688
05:11:53,470 --> 05:11:55,470
I think assisting the greatest number of people

2689
05:11:55,470 --> 05:11:59,110
and making it fair is something that's going to be very

2690
05:11:59,110 --> 05:12:00,970
important for us to consider.

2691
05:12:01,930 --> 05:12:03,790
These days, even in East Palo Alto,

2692
05:12:03,990 --> 05:12:07,130
and if you can sell your house for a million dollars,

2693
05:12:07,490 --> 05:12:09,650
or you're going to need a million dollars to buy it,

2694
05:12:09,870 --> 05:12:11,710
that's not just your average person.

2695
05:12:12,430 --> 05:12:15,450
But nevertheless, there are people who might be,

2696
05:12:15,450 --> 05:12:23,030
with the BMRs or being a position to do that and so giving some assistance I think it's important

2697
05:12:23,030 --> 05:12:31,450
but trying to not limit it to only a very few who get a lot. Again, more people get less but

2698
05:12:33,130 --> 05:12:40,130
probably where that where less money will be impactful could be in the closing cost or in the

2699
05:12:40,130 --> 05:12:45,150
education and counseling and other ways to leverage money.

2700
05:12:47,030 --> 05:12:52,930
So, and by the way, you know, this is a reminder that I just have to throw this in here for

2701
05:12:52,930 --> 05:13:02,350
people to know that the fact that we became a city and we were able to reduce crime and

2702
05:13:02,350 --> 05:13:09,010
reduce the homicides, clean up the city, I know there's still work to be done to make it

2703
05:13:09,010 --> 05:13:16,090
possible for people to have a better quality of life, that is what has increased the cost,

2704
05:13:16,290 --> 05:13:22,250
but it also has given homeowners who were here from a long time ago and even not so long

2705
05:13:22,250 --> 05:13:26,390
ago has added a lot of value, a million dollars.

2706
05:13:27,350 --> 05:13:32,370
So let's not forget that, because when we look back, sometimes we say nothing's been done,

2707
05:13:32,370 --> 05:13:38,530
a lot has been done. And now we're even then trying to help those who have a much higher

2708
05:13:41,510 --> 05:13:48,250
much higher hurdle in order to be able to buy something. Anyway, thank you.

2709
05:13:51,210 --> 05:13:51,730
Do we have any

2710
05:13:51,730 --> 05:13:53,270
public or given?

2711
05:13:55,440 --> 05:14:01,440
Yeah, um, this is a very tough problem. Houses are extremely expensive. Um,

2712
05:14:01,440 --> 05:14:07,560
you know, buying house in 2018? Well, I bought $2,000 in these

2713
05:14:07,560 --> 05:14:14,460
politics. One was in 2009 when the, you know, you could get a very nice house for under

2714
05:14:14,460 --> 05:14:19,740
half a million dollars. That same house today is probably 1.4 million. And then I bought another

2715
05:14:19,740 --> 05:14:28,920
house where the interest rate was, I think were at 2.75%. It's a huge, you know, we've refined

2716
05:14:28,920 --> 05:14:46,360
And it's a huge difference between being 2.75% and paying, you know, the 6.4% I think is the 6.45 is the rate I'm looking at.

2717
05:14:46,660 --> 05:14:47,660
It's not impossible.

2718
05:14:48,040 --> 05:14:50,300
And there's a lot of people doing this.

2719
05:14:50,300 --> 05:14:58,020
I like the idea of a silent second where the city is invested and maybe even co-science for get a better interest rate.

2720
05:14:58,020 --> 05:14:59,960
Um, and then once we house it

2721
05:15:00,000 --> 05:15:26,500
We appreciate which there's ample room for appreciation or it's sold the city we get with money back, where we're giving a hand up, not a hand out necessarily, we're doing that. I think that would be more expensive, but it could be a partial, you know, the rich uncle, he split the down payment. One person puts in 150, the city puts in 150 and then eventually at some point you refinance and the city gets to money back with hopefully some interest.

2722
05:15:27,120 --> 05:15:33,520
This is a tough problem. We had very little housing production in the Bay Area, all prices are up.

2723
05:15:34,320 --> 05:15:40,140
So not only are people, you know, house sale, it's a really crappy interest rate compared to what I'm paying.

2724
05:15:40,560 --> 05:15:45,340
But it's also two or three times what I was paying. So it's like, it was really easy to buy.

2725
05:15:45,500 --> 05:15:53,300
At some point in the past. And now it's, you know, significantly harder. Now we worked really hard to buy a house and save four years.

2726
05:15:53,300 --> 05:15:58,720
and did that. I didn't get any help from my family on that. But I do think that there's probably

2727
05:15:58,720 --> 05:16:05,600
a few limited use cases where the city could be a silent second and help out somebody. Folks

2728
05:16:05,600 --> 05:16:12,580
who could really use like $150,000 for a down payment and then get that money back at some

2729
05:16:12,580 --> 05:16:16,720
point refinancing. This is very tough. I mean, it's one of the reasons why housing must

2730
05:16:16,720 --> 05:16:21,660
be the focus for the next and you know, removing barriers to housing production, whether

2731
05:16:21,660 --> 05:16:23,680
it's owning, building code or whatever.

2732
05:16:24,040 --> 05:16:25,380
That's the separate issue entirely.

2733
05:16:27,560 --> 05:16:29,920
But I do think we should look at this,

2734
05:16:30,000 --> 05:16:31,620
we should look at where we can find money internally,

2735
05:16:31,880 --> 05:16:36,240
whether it's JJ or looking at our budgets.

2736
05:16:37,180 --> 05:16:41,600
But we're not going to be able to solve the housing crisis

2737
05:16:41,600 --> 05:16:44,660
in East Palo Alto and part of the Bay Area with subsidies.

2738
05:16:45,480 --> 05:16:47,440
We're going to solve it by building a lot more housing

2739
05:16:47,440 --> 05:16:50,280
to meet the need for what we have.

2740
05:16:50,280 --> 05:16:55,760
But I think this is not something we're going to solve tonight, so I'll leave it at that.

2741
05:16:56,260 --> 05:16:57,100
Thank you, Council.

2742
05:16:57,320 --> 05:17:09,180
So just to summarize what I'm hearing is, do, you know, the further research on these three items and add the dump payment assistance analysis to see if that can also be included.

2743
05:17:10,500 --> 05:17:14,900
Yeah, when I did my analysis, I thought the rate by down was probably more effective.

2744
05:17:15,760 --> 05:17:25,040
but we still would like that research. Also I would like to get an understanding of how we could

2745
05:17:25,040 --> 05:17:30,540
prioritize this for residents that live or work in this policy like our local preferences.

2746
05:17:31,480 --> 05:17:37,420
Is there a specific limitation on the number of individuals like and that we do a desperate

2747
05:17:37,420 --> 05:17:45,420
back analysis to determine them out of our set the levels of our local sort of preference for affordable

2748
05:17:45,420 --> 05:17:51,720
apartment buildings, but how does that apply to purchasing properties? And when you think about

2749
05:17:51,720 --> 05:17:57,680
the number of market rate homes that we've built over the last like 5, 10 years, it's not been

2750
05:17:57,680 --> 05:18:02,760
many, but when you're talking about 100 units that we're building, that's 10 units that will be affordable.

2751
05:18:02,760 --> 05:18:09,220
So, you know, that's, we're not looking to basically, we can't help everybody, but we

2752
05:18:09,220 --> 05:18:13,420
have to identify the people who need to help the most and try and help those people.

2753
05:18:14,360 --> 05:18:20,960
So, you know, when you think about, like, the, how much we spend on these, like affordable housing

2754
05:18:20,960 --> 05:18:26,760
projects, like I think with Calibra, he was like $800,000 or something more per unit, you know,

2755
05:18:26,760 --> 05:18:32,020
through multiple sources to get that built-in for that's the land and the

2756
05:18:32,020 --> 05:18:38,140
The construction costs those are very that's a lot of money. We're spending per unit for some of these low and come and subsidized

2757
05:18:39,280 --> 05:18:45,440
Properties so you know thinking putting things in perspective. You talking about like a $10,000 or maybe $20,000

2758
05:18:46,640 --> 05:18:50,320
All alone, you know, and then that's something that you're gonna eventually gonna get back

2759
05:18:50,320 --> 05:18:53,080
You know when things are homes of refinance or whatever

2760
05:18:54,020 --> 05:18:56,840
or plummeters in just getting more research around those

2761
05:18:56,840 --> 05:18:57,620
credit things.

2762
05:18:59,380 --> 05:19:00,280
We have thank you.

2763
05:19:00,600 --> 05:19:02,320
Do you have any public comment on this item?

2764
05:19:03,480 --> 05:19:07,380
Yes, we do have two three speaker slips from

2765
05:19:07,380 --> 05:19:10,920
Gail Dixon, followed by Lila and Francois and

2766
05:19:10,920 --> 05:19:11,620
Mario.

2767
05:19:12,140 --> 05:19:12,720
Gail Dixon.

2768
05:19:21,030 --> 05:19:22,170
Half a minute.

2769
05:19:22,550 --> 05:19:24,030
I'm just, I'm just, okay, that's it.

2770
05:19:24,030 --> 05:19:24,850
Okay, that's it.

2771
05:19:24,890 --> 05:19:30,130
First thing I want to say is, I have a,

2772
05:19:30,130 --> 05:19:37,190
uh, uh, bone to pick about them, how they select. I put in for that position and they told

2773
05:19:37,190 --> 05:19:45,950
me it was closed. I have 45, 46, May 1st, rule up and real estate. He talking, do you guys

2774
05:19:45,950 --> 05:19:51,650
know what a buy down is? I don't know you don't. I owned and operated a finance company. Do

2775
05:19:51,650 --> 05:19:55,970
you guys know what you have here? You have a gold mine. And I hear you talking back.

2776
05:19:59,630 --> 05:20:00,110
I'm

2777
05:20:00,110 --> 05:20:05,010
say that, you know, it was a time that white real estate agencies wouldn't step a toe

2778
05:20:05,010 --> 05:20:12,730
in East Palo Alto. I had to a company, my office, Sax Realty on California, 456,

2779
05:20:12,850 --> 05:20:20,510
have they're not there anymore, turn to Russell Moore's. And I, I got 200 homes financed,

2780
05:20:21,310 --> 05:20:27,190
and I used creative finance. Advidown is where you buy the interest rate down. I don't know why

2781
05:20:27,970 --> 05:20:34,990
Donald Trump wants to do what he wants to do, but you, you don't know, they don't know what the hell they're doing.

2782
05:20:35,670 --> 05:20:43,390
Period. And I'm kind of like tired of it. And a lot of people that I know are tired of it.

2783
05:20:43,390 --> 05:20:50,930
We sit down to go online here. 101. You're talking about, oh, we got a million dollar household. That's it.

2784
05:20:50,930 --> 05:20:53,290
You cross over the bridge,

2785
05:20:53,330 --> 05:20:55,490
second burglary over there,

2786
05:20:56,010 --> 05:21:00,250
and the lots are costs in $9 million,

2787
05:21:00,810 --> 05:21:03,390
9 million for a vacant lot.

2788
05:21:04,430 --> 05:21:06,750
This is East Palo Alto and you are a city.

2789
05:21:07,150 --> 05:21:09,230
You're talking about how many people can we find it.

2790
05:21:09,230 --> 05:21:11,670
You can find this as many as you want.

2791
05:21:12,150 --> 05:21:14,450
You don't know what you're doing, period,

2792
05:21:14,810 --> 05:21:16,270
and it ups me.

2793
05:21:16,970 --> 05:21:18,510
It pisses me off.

2794
05:21:19,730 --> 05:21:25,730
And I think you ought to look into it because if you don't look into it, I'm going to have the D-H-E down here.

2795
05:21:26,630 --> 05:21:30,870
Discrimination, you're trying to erase the Blacks people out of East Palo Alto, period.

2796
05:21:31,570 --> 05:21:33,030
He asked about who you're servicing.

2797
05:21:33,050 --> 05:21:34,350
He's a little bit in front of you.

2798
05:21:35,310 --> 05:21:37,170
He asked who you're servicing.

2799
05:21:37,650 --> 05:21:38,330
You're having your servicing.

2800
05:21:38,330 --> 05:21:40,030
Next speaker, Lee Lippon's for.

2801
05:21:40,170 --> 05:21:42,310
Got your kick to Black people out.

2802
05:21:46,530 --> 05:21:46,590
And...

2803
05:21:46,590 --> 05:21:46,950
Lee Lippon's.

2804
05:21:57,880 --> 05:21:58,380
Lee Lippon's.

2805
05:21:58,380 --> 05:21:58,620
Lee Lippon's.

2806
05:21:58,620 --> 05:22:00,580
Well, I'm confused.

2807
05:22:01,560 --> 05:22:06,720
You have the city of East Palo Alto in South San Mateo County.

2808
05:22:07,800 --> 05:22:14,100
And you have Palo Alto and Stanford in Santa Clara County

2809
05:22:14,100 --> 05:22:17,400
that major interest here at Thorough Fair University Avenue,

2810
05:22:18,440 --> 05:22:20,260
the East Side Prept Schools.

2811
05:22:20,840 --> 05:22:23,040
But I first arrived here, you destroyed.

2812
05:22:23,160 --> 05:22:26,420
I thought you destroyed valuable historical property

2813
05:22:26,420 --> 05:22:31,560
go through a houses that could have been rebuilt and put into community work, I don't understand

2814
05:22:31,560 --> 05:22:37,720
the mentality of this city in what direction that you think you are to take people

2815
05:22:37,720 --> 05:22:45,780
whatever. It's all about money, but then again I see what is justified, what this lady is saying,

2816
05:22:46,160 --> 05:22:47,100
there's a lot of racism.

2817
05:22:50,880 --> 05:22:55,400
Okay, I mean, I'm just telling you what I see. I'm trying to maintain

2818
05:22:55,400 --> 05:23:00,440
some kind of neutrality. I associate myself with the U.N., but I come here, I hear all this

2819
05:23:00,440 --> 05:23:07,240
here. Twisted words about that, and she's right, across the highway. There's some prime,

2820
05:23:10,420 --> 05:23:17,340
real estate going on. How, what role does Paul out to Stanford in Santa Clara Clara County

2821
05:23:17,340 --> 05:23:22,480
play in the future of housing in this place that had become the ones he stole out to?

2822
05:23:23,720 --> 05:23:26,060
I will never buy a home here.

2823
05:23:27,840 --> 05:23:33,480
I'll start a business to help others, but it's been so confusing and I think that

2824
05:23:33,480 --> 05:23:37,600
just like I said earlier, the infrastructure that you set up earlier when you're first

2825
05:23:37,600 --> 05:23:43,080
in court made, you really should have looked into it, or I'm really kind of finding out what

2826
05:23:43,080 --> 05:23:44,540
direction you're going and what you're doing.

2827
05:23:44,880 --> 05:23:45,500
That's what I'm picking.

2828
05:23:47,180 --> 05:23:47,680
Thank you.

2829
05:23:47,920 --> 05:23:49,440
Next speaker, module.

2830
05:23:49,440 --> 05:23:49,520
I

2831
05:23:55,690 --> 05:24:02,530
want to ask you where you are going to get money from here.

2832
05:24:03,030 --> 05:24:03,330
Where are you going to get money from here?

2833
05:24:13,780 --> 05:24:16,520
They will get money from here

2834
05:24:19,210 --> 05:24:20,530
because,

2835
05:24:21,510 --> 05:24:24,950
obviously, we are not going to get lucky in the house.

2836
05:24:30,100 --> 05:24:33,120
But if you are still there, look,

2837
05:24:37,040 --> 05:24:39,800
you know why people are going to buy a house?

2838
05:24:43,480 --> 05:24:45,920
because the time they leave to walk,

2839
05:24:49,370 --> 05:24:50,950
until they talk to me,

2840
05:24:50,950 --> 05:24:51,530
they tell me,

2841
05:24:51,870 --> 05:24:51,870
they

2842
05:24:56,060 --> 05:24:57,460
speak,

2843
05:25:00,680 --> 05:25:01,660
they speak,

2844
05:25:04,410 --> 05:25:06,410
they believe in the many young men

2845
05:25:09,930 --> 05:25:14,710
who are in the political and the discrimination.

2846
05:25:18,390 --> 05:25:20,190
And those young men are in time

2847
05:25:23,520 --> 05:25:25,720
and they do not have to be.

2848
05:25:29,200 --> 05:25:31,300
In that, they are not going to worry about us.

2849
05:25:31,300 --> 05:25:32,460
not

2850
05:25:34,470 --> 05:25:35,230
fighting,

2851
05:25:38,040 --> 05:25:42,560
but also, in which the Serraro and the Jevines will be held,

2852
05:25:45,570 --> 05:25:47,570
but in which the Serraro and the Jevines will be held,

2853
05:25:51,070 --> 05:25:52,710
and the story of this

2854
05:25:52,710 --> 05:25:53,290
struggle

2855
05:25:56,140 --> 05:25:59,760
has been presented to the people

2856
05:26:04,010 --> 05:26:06,250
who were not 40.

2857
05:26:10,400 --> 05:26:11,140
The same,

2858
05:26:15,860 --> 05:26:19,820
what is happening is that you are passing the Ninth-Girubriyas,

2859
05:26:22,890 --> 05:26:24,770
who are not the Jevines.

2860
05:26:27,300 --> 05:26:31,720
Because the children always take care of them,

2861
05:26:37,460 --> 05:26:43,450
the rest of them, because they do not care about them,

2862
05:26:44,490 --> 05:26:45,510
they help them,

2863
05:26:48,670 --> 05:26:50,390
they do not care about them,

2864
05:26:53,980 --> 05:26:55,100
they do victims,

2865
05:26:58,950 --> 05:27:00,310
and so they live in their life.

2866
05:27:03,370 --> 05:27:04,670
I have six children,

2867
05:27:07,450 --> 05:27:11,010
and I want to know who is the mentality of the discrimination,

2868
05:28:07,220 --> 05:28:10,520
That was our last speaker for this item.

2869
05:28:11,080 --> 05:28:11,580
Thank you.

2870
05:28:11,580 --> 05:28:12,580
The needy more direction.

2871
05:28:13,080 --> 05:28:13,580
Thank you so much.

2872
05:28:13,760 --> 05:28:13,960
Okay.

2873
05:28:14,140 --> 05:28:17,580
We can proceed with the next agenda item.

2874
05:28:18,940 --> 05:28:19,900
Thank you.

2875
05:28:19,960 --> 05:28:21,100
Item 7.1.

2876
05:28:21,340 --> 05:28:23,000
We have the special presentation.

2877
05:28:24,320 --> 05:28:24,600
Sorry.

2878
05:28:25,660 --> 05:28:28,060
You did have a.

2879
05:28:28,480 --> 05:28:29,020
Did you have a speaker?

2880
05:28:31,060 --> 05:28:31,260
Okay.

2881
05:28:31,960 --> 05:28:34,700
a boy you put it in for 8.1.

2882
05:28:36,340 --> 05:28:36,800
Okay.

2883
05:28:37,320 --> 05:28:38,760
Would you like to speak on it?

2884
05:28:44,160 --> 05:28:45,320
I just wanted to say,

2885
05:28:45,520 --> 05:28:48,480
how important it is for me to have the right to return

2886
05:28:49,960 --> 05:28:52,920
to much older and former Espoilter residents,

2887
05:28:53,440 --> 05:28:56,000
be that within the Black community of Espoilter,

2888
05:28:56,060 --> 05:28:57,560
who was the sole of Espoilter,

2889
05:28:58,240 --> 05:29:00,060
or even right now for a lot of Latinos

2890
05:29:00,060 --> 05:29:02,680
who are also even being pushed out of Espoilter

2891
05:29:02,680 --> 05:29:07,180
you to increase rents also due to the market rate housing.

2892
05:29:09,580 --> 05:29:14,520
There are ways in order to improve or fix housing.

2893
05:29:15,100 --> 05:29:23,020
What that looks like is socialize housing or cap rents or bigger homes instead of making

2894
05:29:23,020 --> 05:29:24,280
townhouses.

2895
05:29:26,200 --> 05:29:29,240
These are things that have already worked in a lot of European countries,

2896
05:29:31,900 --> 05:29:32,660
in a lot of

2897
05:29:32,660 --> 05:29:37,920
possible, again, if you're considering the people of East Paul, and if you want East Paul

2898
05:29:37,920 --> 05:29:43,260
to be the rich diverse culture that it is, give those residents the right of return and

2899
05:29:43,260 --> 05:29:47,260
give them a place to be housed, because they've been displaced, why all these real estate

2900
05:29:47,260 --> 05:29:47,640
developers?

2901
05:29:48,100 --> 05:29:48,680
Thank you.

2902
05:29:52,000 --> 05:29:52,540
Thank you.

2903
05:29:52,560 --> 05:29:54,260
So we'll be proceeding with the next agenda.

2904
05:29:54,860 --> 05:29:57,640
I just do still have item 7.1 or did they leave?

2905
05:29:58,480 --> 05:29:59,980
Okay, let's start from making you

2906
05:30:20,060 --> 05:30:46,000
It's a lighter topic with less words on the slides. For our, you know, almost close to midnight presentation here y'all, my coffee is not still going strong. So I will try to go get through this in the ten minutes and it was shorter. Good evening, Mayor council members. Thank you for sticking with this meeting and allowing me some space this evening to share about the new East Powwowso community garden.

2907
05:30:46,000 --> 05:30:51,300
Fresh approach launched this garden last year after being evicted from the 17 year

2908
05:30:51,300 --> 05:30:56,380
home of the collective roots community garden. And I want to just start by sharing the

2909
05:30:56,380 --> 05:31:03,120
story of our time on this new little space of land and inviting those of you who haven't

2910
05:31:03,120 --> 05:31:07,660
yet been able to come out to the garden to come out. I'd be happy to host you at any point

2911
05:31:07,660 --> 05:31:13,220
in time that's convenient for you. Preferably during daylight hours so we can actually

2912
05:31:13,220 --> 05:31:14,680
see while we're out there.

2913
05:31:15,340 --> 05:31:16,720
We go to the next one, please.

2914
05:31:18,180 --> 05:31:22,300
So we began leasing half acre of the vacant four acre field

2915
05:31:22,300 --> 05:31:25,500
behind Blue House, which stretches all the way

2916
05:31:25,500 --> 05:31:27,820
out to Demeter Street in April of 2025.

2917
05:31:28,700 --> 05:31:31,520
And as you can see, the field was completely empty,

2918
05:31:31,560 --> 05:31:35,000
except for some weeds and a whole lot of mulch.

2919
05:31:35,240 --> 05:31:36,000
Next slide, please.

2920
05:31:37,500 --> 05:31:40,780
In June, we hosted a welcome to the garden.

2921
05:31:40,780 --> 05:31:45,820
And at that time, we installed our, we had installed our first small shed, moved everything

2922
05:31:45,820 --> 05:31:50,060
that we could from the old garden, to the other side, from the other side of town, and

2923
05:31:50,060 --> 05:31:55,740
our half acre field at that time, that time had mulch varying from about a half foot deep

2924
05:31:55,740 --> 05:31:58,520
in some places to four feet deep in other places.

2925
05:31:59,220 --> 05:32:03,200
Not really something you can build any solid structure on or plant in.

2926
05:32:04,240 --> 05:32:08,280
We welcome the community to the space and began collecting names of residents that were interested

2927
05:32:08,280 --> 05:32:10,020
in having a space on site to garden.

2928
05:32:10,020 --> 05:32:15,940
I do appreciate Councilmember Abreka who's able to join us last June at that welcoming

2929
05:32:15,940 --> 05:32:19,360
ceremony and he shared a few words about the importance of community gardens in East

2930
05:32:19,360 --> 05:32:20,160
Palo Alto.

2931
05:32:21,680 --> 05:32:22,260
Next slide, please.

2932
05:32:24,680 --> 05:32:29,180
Last June, we also relaunched our East Palo Alto community compost hub, which collects

2933
05:32:29,180 --> 05:32:32,980
food scraps from local residents and turns them into high quality compost for us to use

2934
05:32:32,980 --> 05:32:33,800
in home gardens.

2935
05:32:34,520 --> 05:32:38,420
The compost is provided back to compost to have members and used in the community garden.

2936
05:32:38,420 --> 05:32:42,360
enriching the soil of East Palo Alto with the food waste of local residents.

2937
05:32:43,640 --> 05:32:47,840
Beyond land access and resources for gardeners, the community compost tub is one of our longest

2938
05:32:47,840 --> 05:32:51,780
running and most successful community garden programs. Next slide please.

2939
05:32:54,750 --> 05:32:59,130
Our compost tub collects food scraps at the community farmers market at Bloomhouse during the

2940
05:32:59,130 --> 05:33:04,350
market season and the photo you see on the left here is a compost-sifting activity where we

2941
05:33:04,350 --> 05:33:09,310
engage local residents and compost education at the farmers market. The EPA compost tub,

2942
05:33:09,310 --> 05:33:15,130
community compost have launched in 2019 expanding our previous garden level composting and initially

2943
05:33:15,130 --> 05:33:19,370
we were supported by the County Office of Sustainability as they prepared for community focused

2944
05:33:19,370 --> 05:33:25,750
composting education and production projects for SB 1383 requirements. You'll note on the flyer

2945
05:33:25,750 --> 05:33:32,190
on the right that we do also operate a hub up in San Mateo and that expansion was inspired by the success

2946
05:33:32,190 --> 05:33:38,450
of the EPA compost hub and again that was supported initially with County Funding prior to SB 1383

2947
05:33:38,450 --> 05:33:44,630
implementation. For folks who don't always remember SPS 1383 off the top of your memories,

2948
05:33:44,870 --> 05:33:49,050
this is the state legislation that requires the city to procure compost and to distribute

2949
05:33:49,050 --> 05:33:53,950
some to local residents and to educate residents on sorting organic waste. I'm going to come back

2950
05:33:53,950 --> 05:33:59,490
to compost, but I do want to just continue to share the evolution of the garden over this past year

2951
05:33:59,490 --> 05:34:06,930
in our hopes for the future. Next slide, please. So here we are in August 2025, nearly complete

2952
05:34:06,930 --> 05:34:09,650
with moving all of the mulch off of the half acre field

2953
05:34:09,650 --> 05:34:10,290
that we were renting.

2954
05:34:10,710 --> 05:34:12,790
And you can see our little shed and our compost system

2955
05:34:12,790 --> 05:34:13,790
is still there.

2956
05:34:13,990 --> 05:34:14,710
Next slide, please.

2957
05:34:16,170 --> 05:34:18,270
By September of last year, the garden was really

2958
05:34:18,270 --> 05:34:19,330
starting to take shape.

2959
05:34:19,590 --> 05:34:21,690
Pathways were laid, including a patio space

2960
05:34:21,690 --> 05:34:24,090
on the Demeter Street side to host workshops and events.

2961
05:34:24,690 --> 05:34:26,290
Water and electrical had been on site

2962
05:34:26,290 --> 05:34:28,830
and we prepared to host our first big event in late September.

2963
05:34:29,950 --> 05:34:30,590
Next slide, please.

2964
05:34:33,340 --> 05:34:36,060
Another view of the garden from last September.

2965
05:34:37,160 --> 05:34:38,540
I know a couple of council members

2966
05:34:38,540 --> 05:34:40,280
were able to attend our dinner last year.

2967
05:34:40,340 --> 05:34:43,080
And I do hope that you'll all be able to join us this year.

2968
05:34:43,420 --> 05:34:45,460
Save the date, September 12th,

2969
05:34:45,520 --> 05:34:46,680
and put it out there right now.

2970
05:34:47,080 --> 05:34:48,800
You'll get it in the ear email soon.

2971
05:34:49,320 --> 05:34:50,000
Next slide, please.

2972
05:34:51,000 --> 05:34:52,200
After the September event,

2973
05:34:52,640 --> 05:34:55,320
we continue to establishing garden spaces for individual residents,

2974
05:34:55,460 --> 05:34:57,380
leveling the ground and installing garden beds.

2975
05:34:58,380 --> 05:34:59,220
Next slide, please.

2976
05:35:01,300 --> 05:35:02,740
And then by March of this year,

2977
05:35:02,820 --> 05:35:06,840
we had all the beds leveled in filled with 22 families filling their spaces

2978
05:35:06,840 --> 05:35:11,120
with late winter and early spring crops, and the garden really started to grow up as our

2979
05:35:11,120 --> 05:35:15,820
potted fruit trees and put on their spring leaves in their blooms. We currently still have 20

2980
05:35:15,820 --> 05:35:21,340
families on our waitlist for spaces to garden. Next slide please.

2981
05:35:23,960 --> 05:35:26,140
This past March 21st we hosted our

2982
05:35:26,140 --> 05:35:31,440
first annual community event spring is in the air. We do plan to host this event every year to

2983
05:35:31,440 --> 05:35:36,420
celebrate the beginning of the spring season. The event featured a performance, a performance by

2984
05:35:36,420 --> 05:35:42,520
band from east side college prep. And they were awesome. If y'all haven't heard them, I'm

2985
05:35:42,520 --> 05:35:47,740
sure you have there. Just an amazing band. They really had both toddlers and adults dancing

2986
05:35:48,420 --> 05:35:50,480
the morning away. Next slide, please.

2987
05:35:53,260 --> 05:35:57,360
Along with great music, we also had a resource village with local

2988
05:35:57,360 --> 05:36:03,200
community base and government organizations sharing information and other resources. We did have a

2989
05:36:03,200 --> 05:36:07,560
table from some city staff there. We hosted seed planting in the garden, which filled our new greenhouse

2990
05:36:07,560 --> 05:36:11,740
with trays of vegetables and flowers that will fill the garden this summer, hosted a

2991
05:36:11,740 --> 05:36:16,500
compost station, sharing information about our community composting hub, the composting process,

2992
05:36:16,680 --> 05:36:21,720
and best ways to sort organic waste for composting. In the center on the bottom there, you can see

2993
05:36:21,720 --> 05:36:25,800
that we had some folks finishing up a cob bench and learning about alternative and sustainable building

2994
05:36:25,800 --> 05:36:30,960
techniques. And on the bottom right there, we also brought our mobile farmers market trek to the event

2995
05:36:30,960 --> 05:36:33,260
to distribute free locally grown produce to the community.

2996
05:36:34,260 --> 05:36:34,940
Next slide, please.

2997
05:36:37,120 --> 05:36:39,180
We also provided lunch for all the attendees

2998
05:36:39,180 --> 05:36:42,520
at the event, demonstrations on food preservation,

2999
05:36:43,500 --> 05:36:46,020
workshops on soil biology, and an amazing performance

3000
05:36:46,020 --> 05:36:49,160
from the Eastside College Preps for Folk Lawyco dancers.

3001
05:36:50,120 --> 05:36:50,720
Next slide, please.

3002
05:36:55,180 --> 05:36:56,680
We're really working to provide the garden

3003
05:36:56,680 --> 05:36:58,560
as a standalone resource for the community

3004
05:36:58,560 --> 05:37:01,920
and also as a hub for gathering, learning, and resource sharing.

3005
05:37:01,920 --> 05:37:13,180
We provide free monthly workshops for East Palo Alto residents, weekly volunteer opportunities that provides hands that provide hands on space for learning to grow food and to cultivate food together.

3006
05:37:13,860 --> 05:37:20,920
We provide free land for residents to grow their own food, free seeds and seedlings access to the tools and a supportive network of local gardeners.

3007
05:37:21,760 --> 05:37:22,640
Next slide please.

3008
05:37:28,500 --> 05:37:31,980
And of course, we continue to provide our community compost hub.

3009
05:37:31,980 --> 05:37:39,300
After reestablishing the hubs operations last year with the move, we saw engagement from residents increase over the course of 2025.

3010
05:37:40,280 --> 05:37:45,740
By the end of the year, we had nearly a hundred residents participating by bringing us their food scraps and receiving compost from us.

3011
05:37:46,060 --> 05:37:57,120
Those residents diverted over 7,000 pounds of food scraps through the EPA compost tub and distributed 3.5 cubic yards of compost to residents just in six months of operation last year.

3012
05:37:57,120 --> 05:38:01,380
This strong engagement from the community required us to increase our capacity and build

3013
05:38:01,380 --> 05:38:05,660
additional composting systems at the gardens, so we can continue to increase the number of

3014
05:38:05,660 --> 05:38:08,520
residents that are composting with us. Next slide, please.

3015
05:38:11,240 --> 05:38:12,720
This is where our partnership

3016
05:38:12,720 --> 05:38:18,260
with the city comes in. Our community compost to provide an opportunity for the city to be able

3017
05:38:18,260 --> 05:38:26,030
to support the composted activities at the community garden with funds that the city already

3018
05:38:26,030 --> 05:38:28,910
spends on the requirements for SB 1383.

3019
05:38:29,790 --> 05:38:36,190
State legislation passed in late 2024, AB 2346, that allows the city to fulfill some of

3020
05:38:36,190 --> 05:38:41,330
its SB 1383 requirements by investing in community composting infrastructure in East Palo Alto.

3021
05:38:42,270 --> 05:38:46,650
We have received support from the City of San Mateo, which is now investing annually with

3022
05:38:46,650 --> 05:38:50,710
their SB 1383 spending requirements to support community composting there.

3023
05:38:51,210 --> 05:38:55,410
That city level support has allowed us to double the food scrap collection dates we offer

3024
05:38:55,410 --> 05:39:00,670
and increase compost production. I'm asking the council to consider working with city staff to

3025
05:39:00,670 --> 05:39:05,710
direct this same type of investment of SB 1383 spending into the East Powell Alto community

3026
05:39:05,710 --> 05:39:14,350
compost hub to help us make the compost hub and the community garden along lasting resource

3027
05:39:14,350 --> 05:39:20,730
for the community. Thank you. That's all I had. Then I went through it as quickly as I could.

3028
05:39:20,730 --> 05:39:26,570
I'll take any questions or any, I'd love to hear any comments from y'all.

3029
05:39:26,830 --> 05:39:31,330
Yeah, hi, Laura. I'm going to actually try to make it to the farmers market tomorrow, though.

3030
05:39:31,370 --> 05:39:34,490
I've me sleep past the reasonable.

3031
05:39:35,770 --> 05:39:41,850
Thank you for waiting. I apologize. There's been a lot of disruption tonight and you were supposed to go much earlier on.

3032
05:39:42,190 --> 05:39:44,330
But thank you for sticking out, sticking around.

3033
05:39:45,430 --> 05:39:50,110
I've been over to the community garden multiple times. I think it's a wonderful asset to the community.

3034
05:39:50,110 --> 05:39:54,930
If you honest, I was not convinced when I heard of the idea, but after seeing it and seeing

3035
05:39:54,930 --> 05:39:59,890
many people I know and a lot of people who I just met there, it's really been a wonderful community

3036
05:39:59,890 --> 05:40:05,730
asset that has brought together all sorts of people and then the workshops you guys do in other

3037
05:40:05,730 --> 05:40:10,950
parts of the city, including at the Spire School, which is across the street for me, is really

3038
05:40:10,950 --> 05:40:16,890
great like pruning and worms and all of this other stuff. I'm not a gardener, my wife's a gardener,

3039
05:40:16,890 --> 05:40:22,190
But I also know that not everything he's Paul also has to be for me. I'm in a jazz musician

3040
05:40:22,190 --> 05:40:29,310
I like weird, you know music from the 50s when they are gulfy, you know, but what I've really

3041
05:40:29,990 --> 05:40:36,610
Appreciate about a fresh approach is how it's really about the community together. I certainly would support presuming this is a reasonable ask

3042
05:40:37,310 --> 05:40:40,030
to the city staff to work with fresh approach to

3043
05:40:41,750 --> 05:40:43,690
You know, take advantage of that

3044
05:40:43,690 --> 05:40:58,430
And it's really late and it's probably someone complicated, but I certainly would support that, I think fresh approach is a valuable community member and, you know, we attended your dinner last year, it was wonderful.

3045
05:40:59,610 --> 05:41:08,130
And look forward to seeing lots of good things coming out of fresh approach and perhaps even finding a more permanent location.

3046
05:41:09,170 --> 05:41:11,330
If one were to pop up at some point.

3047
05:41:11,330 --> 05:41:15,270
So. Thank you. Thank you.

3048
05:41:19,100 --> 05:41:44,800
Yeah, thank you for the presentation. It's, you know, great success. I think it's, you know, part of a growing movement in California and partly because of the state laws, but it's really good that there's a, you know, a good coincidence in time of people like yourselves doing that work and then the states say you need to

3049
05:41:44,800 --> 05:41:51,840
do more illicitis and then the city's also trying to do what we can in different areas, but

3050
05:41:51,840 --> 05:41:59,400
this is really a good combination to keep educating ourselves and the young people especially

3051
05:41:59,960 --> 05:42:07,980
I think for the future, you know, about the importance of, you know, it's got a little

3052
05:42:07,980 --> 05:42:14,140
bit of everything, you know, you learn, we connect with nature, do some gardening, you know,

3053
05:42:14,140 --> 05:42:19,280
you learn where the food comes from, and at the same time with, you can learn all kinds

3054
05:42:19,280 --> 05:42:25,520
of things about energy, green energy, etc., etc., and of course coming together and having

3055
05:42:25,520 --> 05:42:32,440
some benefits, and utilizing what might be considered as waste, which is what our society

3056
05:42:32,440 --> 05:42:39,720
has done, created tons of waste, and then in this case it's a good way to turn it into compost,

3057
05:42:39,720 --> 05:42:45,960
and so yeah congratulations and you know keep up the good work and yeah thank you very much

3058
05:42:45,960 --> 05:42:50,980
yeah it is it's been exciting to see what can happen at that garden and in that space and just

3059
05:42:50,980 --> 05:42:56,160
a relatively short period of time to go from a fully blank field to a really well laid out

3060
05:42:56,160 --> 05:42:56,700
garden.

3061
05:43:02,210 --> 05:43:05,950
Do you have any additional comments on this is your special presentation so we're not taking

3062
05:43:05,950 --> 05:43:13,790
any action but yes I have a question about the community composting piece I mean the amount of

3063
05:43:13,790 --> 05:43:19,210
and that he needs to get back is monumental.

3064
05:43:19,310 --> 05:43:22,590
I mean, it's as tall as this building,

3065
05:43:23,070 --> 05:43:24,110
it's just monumental.

3066
05:43:24,850 --> 05:43:27,090
And so as a matter of scale,

3067
05:43:28,130 --> 05:43:31,450
you know, 724 pounds of switch grabs

3068
05:43:31,450 --> 05:43:34,990
diverted sounds great, but I mean,

3069
05:43:35,070 --> 05:43:39,790
how effective is this in indeed realizing

3070
05:43:39,790 --> 05:43:46,330
using, you know, the actual amount of compost that we need to take back and utilize or we

3071
05:43:46,330 --> 05:43:54,070
may actually wind up as this, you know, recalls you are the south. What is the SBMWA wherever

3072
05:43:54,070 --> 05:44:00,670
we are, you know, paying someone to take this compost off our hands. So it explained to me,

3073
05:44:01,950 --> 05:44:07,910
kind of what the, or perhaps staff needs to come back to us is to kind of what, when partially,

3074
05:44:07,910 --> 05:44:14,930
what's the cost benefit to doing this, and then perhaps the cost benefit is very little, but

3075
05:44:14,930 --> 05:44:19,210
mostly it's a community building exercise and that would be fine, but I just I want to understand

3076
05:44:19,210 --> 05:44:24,390
kind of scale and scope of the composting piece. Yeah, they're certainly community building and it's

3077
05:44:24,390 --> 05:44:33,290
the community education that's a huge piece of it. There is the AB2, 2376 allowed cities to divert

3078
05:44:33,290 --> 05:44:39,890
10% of their purchasing requirement to support community composting, which then allows you to

3079
05:44:39,890 --> 05:44:43,890
also reduce the amount of compost that you're having to purchase. Community composting still

3080
05:44:43,890 --> 05:44:50,350
has to show as a part of that, you know, an outturn in the cubic yards of compost that we're

3081
05:44:50,690 --> 05:44:57,710
producing, but it does allow the city to divert those funds from purchasing compost and

3082
05:44:57,710 --> 05:44:59,890
should be on the coast side, which is a lot of ways.

3083
05:45:00,000 --> 05:45:17,520
The panel also does, to instead actually generate that compost here, use it here in this community, not send those food scraps to Fresno, to then go back to the coastside, and add all those greenhouse gases. So there's a lot of additional advantage that 2376 allows for.

3084
05:45:18,060 --> 05:45:25,880
Yeah, I mean, we have problems placing it. Let's make it very clear, right? I mean, the amount of, yeah, the amount that you have to purchase it.

3085
05:45:25,880 --> 05:45:30,800
And it's coming from our communities that we're required to do.

3086
05:45:32,680 --> 05:45:37,540
So yeah, I would want to know how this might work

3087
05:45:37,540 --> 05:45:43,020
in terms of both costs and certainly capacity.

3088
05:45:44,000 --> 05:45:47,600
I mean, I mean, this AB 2346 allows jurisdictions

3089
05:45:47,600 --> 05:45:51,780
to meet 10% of their target through the development

3090
05:45:51,780 --> 05:45:54,160
of community composting infrastructure.

3091
05:45:54,160 --> 05:46:02,700
So that would mean that 10% of the target is, you know, if we had, let's say, you know, I don't

3092
05:46:02,700 --> 05:46:06,920
know, 10,000 cubic feet, it's much more than that, actually.

3093
05:46:08,460 --> 05:46:14,260
Then we would be able to do locally a 1,000 cubic feet.

3094
05:46:15,100 --> 05:46:16,140
It's about diverting.

3095
05:46:16,280 --> 05:46:23,360
It's not about the community compost hub isn't upheld to need to produce that 10% of the compost.

3096
05:46:23,360 --> 05:46:30,180
But it's that 10% of you're funding that you're spending on compost can instead go to support these local programs that are

3097
05:46:30,600 --> 05:46:38,600
Providing compost to the community measuring that output and also providing education and community outreach to increase knowledge around

3098
05:46:39,580 --> 05:46:41,000
Organic waste diversion

3099
05:46:42,120 --> 05:46:48,900
So there is there I sir. I have a great contact in the city of San Mateo who is one of the

3100
05:46:48,900 --> 05:46:51,580
Key partners actually used to work at the office of sustainability

3101
05:46:52,200 --> 05:46:58,260
that helped us start our community composting work and he would be happy to talk further with

3102
05:46:58,260 --> 05:47:03,480
city staff. He's already talked with Latima a little bit about this and we've just sort of faced

3103
05:47:03,480 --> 05:47:08,800
some roadblocks with moving forward with city staff and so the request is really for council to

3104
05:47:09,400 --> 05:47:15,000
ask city staff to work towards this. It might not be, you know, this year but it could absolutely

3105
05:47:15,000 --> 05:47:19,680
be something that we work towards for next year and I think it's something that this city should

3106
05:47:19,680 --> 05:47:23,360
invest in with the amount of benefit that the garden provides?

3107
05:47:25,790 --> 05:47:33,130
Yeah, I'd certainly be interested in seeing, you know, staff potentially bring this

3108
05:47:33,130 --> 05:47:40,710
back in terms of what's the cost benefit and, you know, what we might be able to do on this

3109
05:47:40,710 --> 05:47:45,590
composting site out. I'm still grabbing my head around it, but. Thank you.

3110
05:47:45,950 --> 05:47:45,990
Thank you.

3111
05:47:49,530 --> 05:47:53,370
Thank you for the presentation. And I hope we can

3112
05:47:53,370 --> 05:47:59,010
thought was to collaborate. I'm going forward. Thank you. To see you too out of the garden

3113
05:47:59,010 --> 05:48:04,150
sometime soon. Either at an event or, you know, I'll, I'll email you sometime this summer

3114
05:48:04,150 --> 05:48:08,550
and we can arrange a separate time. Yes, in any mail, I can put it on my calendar. Okay. All right.

3115
05:48:08,790 --> 05:48:14,070
Okay. Thank you. Okay. We'll be proceeding with, um, are do you have any public comment on this?

3116
05:48:14,810 --> 05:48:17,310
Okay. We'll be proceeding with item 8.1.

3117
05:48:27,800 --> 05:48:32,080
I will just keep this to two minutes. All right. All right.

3118
05:48:35,040 --> 05:48:42,440
They're running their family, Charles Wigs, the Koolie family, they're all farmers in

3119
05:48:42,440 --> 05:48:42,720
gardens.

3120
05:48:43,020 --> 05:48:48,800
This year, all community goes back more than a hundred years in gardening, it's a seed of

3121
05:48:50,220 --> 05:48:51,900
California's agricultural industry.

3122
05:48:52,820 --> 05:48:59,060
I started to remember what garden kids' products, to kind of keep that alive, I developed

3123
05:48:59,060 --> 05:49:04,080
my own garden because I have something going with the United Nations and I would like

3124
05:49:04,080 --> 05:49:07,600
start working. I would like for all of us to talk, we're going to get a similar because we

3125
05:49:07,600 --> 05:49:15,900
share a similar common denominator, and that's easy. So if we're going to do it and bring

3126
05:49:15,900 --> 05:49:20,560
everybody together historically, we're going to put some props, everybody see what's happened

3127
05:49:20,560 --> 05:49:27,460
in the past few years, then we're going to be going in a right direction. Thank you. Thank you.

3128
05:49:28,000 --> 05:49:31,480
So what we're proceeding with item eight, or do we have to make a motion extend the meeting to

3129
05:49:35,840 --> 05:49:39,480
I'd like to make that motion, I don't think we're going to get done with this in 13 minutes.

3130
05:49:40,420 --> 05:49:41,500
Okay, we have a second.

3131
05:49:42,140 --> 05:49:44,960
I'd like to make the motion that we go to 1230.

3132
05:49:45,300 --> 05:49:46,020
All second.

3133
05:49:46,500 --> 05:49:47,520
Okay, all in favor.

3134
05:49:49,100 --> 05:49:49,360
All right.

3135
05:50:13,060 --> 05:50:13,940
Thank you.

3136
05:50:15,120 --> 05:50:17,040
Honorable Mayor and members of the City Council.

3137
05:50:18,480 --> 05:50:21,300
This is part two of the proposed development could update.

3138
05:50:21,300 --> 05:50:24,440
this is an annual or are roughly annual update

3139
05:50:24,440 --> 05:50:25,780
that we've been bringing to the City Council

3140
05:50:25,780 --> 05:50:26,860
for the past few years.

3141
05:50:27,480 --> 05:50:30,340
The first part was discussed on April 21st,

3142
05:50:30,560 --> 05:50:32,320
and this was basically introducing

3143
05:50:32,900 --> 05:50:34,960
this year's development code update,

3144
05:50:35,560 --> 05:50:36,600
and at that presentation,

3145
05:50:36,900 --> 05:50:38,820
we discuss various amendments,

3146
05:50:39,080 --> 05:50:41,940
such as just basically primarily cleanup items,

3147
05:50:42,180 --> 05:50:45,180
such as bringing sections of the code

3148
05:50:45,180 --> 05:50:47,140
into compliance with each other

3149
05:50:47,140 --> 05:50:50,480
and making the temporary use permit process

3150
05:50:50,480 --> 05:50:53,680
a little more efficient, refining the setbacks,

3151
05:50:53,840 --> 05:50:56,620
the multi-family zones, and various other changes.

3152
05:50:57,300 --> 05:51:00,680
So tonight we're bringing to you the proposed

3153
05:51:00,680 --> 05:51:03,540
objective design standards, which we're

3154
05:51:03,540 --> 05:51:06,520
being proposed to bring us into compliance with new state

3155
05:51:06,520 --> 05:51:09,200
requirements for housing projects.

3156
05:51:09,520 --> 05:51:13,760
And so with that, I will turn it to Sal to present on the ODS.

3157
05:51:15,120 --> 05:51:16,960
OK, thank you very much, Yelena.

3158
05:51:17,860 --> 05:51:25,120
And good evening, Mr. Mayor, a member of the City Council, two weeks ago, as Lena said,

3159
05:51:25,220 --> 05:51:28,260
we presented the first part of this development called amendments.

3160
05:51:29,040 --> 05:51:34,320
Tonight, we present the second final part, focus on objective design standards.

3161
05:51:37,480 --> 05:51:41,460
So, we have done a good amount of auditions with this project.

3162
05:51:42,120 --> 05:51:45,060
In addition to the normal publications and pushtons,

3163
05:51:45,060 --> 05:51:52,500
We also reached out to various stakeholders, including architects, designers, and developers that are working on our community.

3164
05:51:53,460 --> 05:52:08,060
They include the designers of collaborate comons, the designers of literary apartments, the Dalong group, the Ngoran and Associates, the Hays group, some hill properties, and SC design group.

3165
05:52:08,060 --> 05:52:17,050
slide. And so tonight we will focus on the objective design standards. The draft standards we

3166
05:52:17,600 --> 05:52:24,600
will discuss were developed in consultation with Remy and Associates, the planning and

3167
05:52:24,600 --> 05:52:29,640
design consultants who already know the work on the city's development code. Our recommendation

3168
05:52:29,640 --> 05:52:36,520
is for consult to approve the process improvement amendments with the scarce last week, along with

3169
05:52:36,520 --> 05:52:41,880
the objective development standards we are going to discuss tonight, if approved, we anticipate

3170
05:52:41,880 --> 05:52:48,040
the second reading to be on your meeting of June 2nd, 2006.

3171
05:52:50,540 --> 05:52:57,100
The primary goal of the objective design standards is to provide the city council and plan on

3172
05:52:57,100 --> 05:53:03,520
commission with the tools to review residential and mixed-use projects, but I want to

3173
05:53:03,520 --> 05:53:07,440
the State Housing Accountability Act in the Housing Crisis Act.

3174
05:53:07,860 --> 05:53:13,020
These legislation requires projects to be reviewed for compliance with objective design standards

3175
05:53:13,020 --> 05:53:18,460
and not subjective design standards which are comfortable most of the current standards in the

3176
05:53:18,460 --> 05:53:19,460
development code.

3177
05:53:21,960 --> 05:53:25,760
Objective design standards are standards that are measurable and verifiable.

3178
05:53:26,400 --> 05:53:33,620
For example, frontset back must be at least five feet, build and height shall not exceed 35 feet.

3179
05:53:33,620 --> 05:53:37,460
A planar can simply check whether the requirement is met.

3180
05:53:38,240 --> 05:53:44,140
Subjective design standards are not allowed for many housing approvals as the required interpretation.

3181
05:53:45,500 --> 05:53:52,960
For example, the building should fit neighborhood character or the facade should be visually interesting.

3182
05:53:53,740 --> 05:53:58,100
These required management and therefore are not objective standards.

3183
05:53:58,100 --> 05:54:02,240
So typically, objective design standards would regulate

3184
05:54:02,240 --> 05:54:04,500
building placement and orientation,

3185
05:54:05,420 --> 05:54:07,360
the heights and setbacks of buildings,

3186
05:54:08,200 --> 05:54:11,400
facade articulation and materials, roof form,

3187
05:54:11,780 --> 05:54:15,200
ground floor transparency, landscaping and lighting,

3188
05:54:15,720 --> 05:54:18,520
parking layout, mechanical equipment, screening.

3189
05:54:19,600 --> 05:54:23,360
In general, the regulate design and site layout.

3190
05:54:24,100 --> 05:54:26,760
So it's simple way to think about it is

3191
05:54:26,760 --> 05:54:31,700
Objective design standards include a measurable rule.

3192
05:54:32,740 --> 05:54:35,580
It is, for example, greater than or 10 feet.

3193
05:54:35,980 --> 05:54:38,560
Subjective guidelines express an opinion.

3194
05:54:39,420 --> 05:54:41,020
For example, does it look good?

3195
05:54:43,710 --> 05:54:46,810
The Objective design standards document has three parts.

3196
05:54:47,550 --> 05:54:52,930
The first part includes definitions, including fuller definitions for apartments and rules houses.

3197
05:54:52,930 --> 05:54:58,110
The second and third parts focus on different development types.

3198
05:54:58,910 --> 05:55:01,790
The second part includes single-family houses,

3199
05:55:02,110 --> 05:55:05,710
dual-plexes, triplexes, four-plexes, and townhouses.

3200
05:55:07,050 --> 05:55:11,970
And the third part would be about apartments and mixed with buildings.

3201
05:55:15,930 --> 05:55:20,450
So we would discuss the second,

3202
05:55:20,450 --> 05:55:22,950
I mean, the two development types separately.

3203
05:55:22,950 --> 05:55:28,610
does the single-family through fourplexes and then following that will do the

3204
05:55:28,610 --> 05:55:33,330
apartments and mix these projects. However, there are a few cases where the

3205
05:55:33,330 --> 05:55:38,910
same standards are identical. They are applied to both the single-family to fourplexes

3206
05:55:39,410 --> 05:55:44,450
and the apartments and mix-uses and do standards will include bulk on the

3207
05:55:44,450 --> 05:55:49,090
setbacks, for example, roof-line and roof-on materials and finish-on materials.

3208
05:55:49,090 --> 05:55:54,930
So, when we discuss them with the first part, in the second part, we will just skip them,

3209
05:55:55,670 --> 05:55:57,650
since they are identical. Next slide.

3210
05:56:00,420 --> 05:56:04,920
And the two different development types are generally

3211
05:56:04,920 --> 05:56:11,740
intense fractured in three sections. First, there is an intense statement, which will clearly

3212
05:56:11,740 --> 05:56:18,940
spell out the purpose of the standard. The intense statements are not standards. They are just

3213
05:56:18,940 --> 05:56:29,280
vision or ideal outcome statement. The second section, the design standards objective measures

3214
05:56:29,280 --> 05:56:34,960
that must be complied with, unless they are reduced by qualifying concessions in sessions

3215
05:56:34,960 --> 05:56:43,380
and weaver. So, in our city, every development and mixed-use project with residential

3216
05:56:43,380 --> 05:56:51,980
qualifies for the state density bonus process and with the state density bonus law comes

3217
05:56:51,980 --> 05:56:59,720
what we call incentives and concerns and wevers which would give applicants relief from

3218
05:56:59,720 --> 05:57:09,080
objective design standards and so if there's a particular standard that developers think is going

3219
05:57:09,080 --> 05:57:19,320
be difficult for them to maximize the developmental housing units they can request weaver and

3220
05:57:19,320 --> 05:57:26,520
the weavers are basically unlimited. The third section would be design guidelines and these

3221
05:57:26,520 --> 05:57:32,780
are museless objective measures that applicants may volunteer to comply with. They are commonly

3222
05:57:32,780 --> 05:57:38,900
reviews and set projects as planned developments where applicants agree to set in design measures

3223
05:57:38,900 --> 05:57:47,780
and exchange for certain zones or subdivision relief. So we include the intent statements

3224
05:57:47,780 --> 05:57:54,080
and the guidelines in this document because there are certain projects that might be subject

3225
05:57:54,080 --> 05:57:57,680
to subjective standards.

3226
05:58:04,120 --> 05:58:07,320
So, let's talk about the standards that are patented

3227
05:58:07,320 --> 05:58:10,920
to single-family, do flexors, townhouses,

3228
05:58:11,220 --> 05:58:13,760
triplexes, and four flexors.

3229
05:58:14,720 --> 05:58:19,260
And all new residences or residential additions

3230
05:58:19,260 --> 05:58:22,420
shall be designed to match the prevailing frontset

3231
05:58:22,420 --> 05:58:26,000
back condition measured as an average of all frontset

3232
05:58:26,000 --> 05:58:32,580
along the blockface. Front entries shall include two or parties and be clearly

3233
05:58:32,580 --> 05:58:37,540
identifiable through accentuated architectural details, such as

3234
05:58:37,540 --> 05:58:45,260
Ownings, projections, recesses and so on. These standards generally deal with

3235
05:58:45,580 --> 05:58:52,100
the placement of buildings on a parcel and they also include a

3236
05:58:52,100 --> 05:58:59,160
of garages with kept cuts and accessibility of buildings from walkways and common open spaces.

3237
05:59:02,760 --> 05:59:11,160
Second, we will talk about setback areas and landscape design standards. So,

3238
05:59:11,440 --> 05:59:17,680
these are what are normally described as external works. The treatment of spaces between

3239
05:59:17,680 --> 05:59:24,740
buildings and property lines. So, the standards include front yard landscape and protection

3240
05:59:24,740 --> 05:59:32,000
of protected trees and the use of pervious materials for stormwater compliance. These standards

3241
05:59:32,000 --> 05:59:36,180
are all included in the current development code.

3242
05:59:39,490 --> 05:59:43,390
Next, we talk about mass and addition standards

3243
05:59:43,390 --> 05:59:50,310
and these tenders are meant to reduce the bulk of buildings and ensure that additions are

3244
05:59:50,310 --> 05:59:57,010
compatible with existing buildings. And so with these ones, we have residential, second and

3245
05:59:57,010 --> 05:59:59,990
fair story additions, so simple.

3246
06:00:00,000 --> 06:00:06,540
Employee, at least two of the full-name building modulations strategies, and the modulations strategies

3247
06:00:06,540 --> 06:00:13,840
include varied roof forms, use of balconies and front-porties and decks, and then put projections

3248
06:00:13,840 --> 06:00:21,740
and offsets and recesses of buildings and building planes, at least two feet in death,

3249
06:00:21,740 --> 06:00:32,380
as B Windows. So let's go to the next slide. Next we talk about privacy standards. So the intent here is a new

3250
06:00:32,380 --> 06:00:39,360
residences and residential additions, particularly it should be designed to preserve privacy,

3251
06:00:40,300 --> 06:00:48,060
light and air to a governing properties to the extent possible. And so these standards then would

3252
06:00:48,060 --> 06:00:57,520
close tapbacks from front and side, setbacks for new structures and additions. For example,

3253
06:00:58,260 --> 06:01:05,160
it talks about a 10-foot front stepback for second and third story, this is if 60% of the

3254
06:01:05,160 --> 06:01:12,780
existence structures are single story buildings. There are side tapbacks, tapbacks too,

3255
06:01:18,040 --> 06:01:18,040
and

3256
06:01:18,040 --> 06:01:25,410
colleagues said back should be at least 20 feet from the side property lies. Now this was

3257
06:01:26,100 --> 06:01:33,280
we got a comment from San Hill properties and they were concerned about this standard,

3258
06:01:33,900 --> 06:01:40,200
but we have clarified in the objective design standard as the 24th said back a place to front

3259
06:01:40,200 --> 06:01:50,720
and rear of buildings, and so, part of the proposals we brought two weeks ago was to reduce

3260
06:01:50,720 --> 06:01:56,760
multi-family setbacks to five feet. So, obviously, with that five foot setback, I mean,

3261
06:01:56,860 --> 06:02:01,760
there can be insert back on this and so on and so forth. So, the projected back on is

3262
06:02:01,760 --> 06:02:08,960
applied to the front and rear setbacks, and the rear setbacks are already 25 feet in a way.

3263
06:02:15,230 --> 06:02:22,350
So, continue with the privacy standards for the upper storage windows of new structures

3264
06:02:22,350 --> 06:02:30,470
or additions within 5 feet of proper supplies that the standards will require the windows

3265
06:02:30,470 --> 06:02:38,350
we offset horizontally by 3 feet that we windows don't look through each other, that windows

3266
06:02:38,350 --> 06:02:46,290
to now have a double-species exam from this requirement as long as they have like a 6-foot

3267
06:02:46,290 --> 06:02:58,830
window seal or they have frosted glass windows. And also there is a standard for landscape and

3268
06:02:58,830 --> 06:03:03,730
the site setback to provide for additional privacy as well.

3269
06:03:06,140 --> 06:03:09,320
Next we talk about architectural design

3270
06:03:09,320 --> 06:03:17,700
digital standards. And these are standards that pertain to the use of identical materials

3271
06:03:17,700 --> 06:03:26,340
and finishes for additions. The use of durable materials and the colour and finishes of

3272
06:03:26,340 --> 06:03:33,150
service elements and fixtures and the compatibility of roof fixtures and roof lines,

3273
06:03:33,620 --> 06:03:39,200
which exist with the existence structure. So these standards here mostly have to do with

3274
06:03:39,200 --> 06:03:40,120
conditions.

3275
06:03:45,680 --> 06:03:51,740
And they're finally for architectural design details standards. We talked about

3276
06:03:51,740 --> 06:04:01,000
the need to de-emphasize garages and we would do that by limiting the waves of garages

3277
06:04:01,000 --> 06:04:12,340
to 22 feet or 60% of the facade that garages should be set back six feet behind living

3278
06:04:12,340 --> 06:04:18,880
of livable spaces and for townhouse garages that the officer should

3279
06:04:18,880 --> 06:04:25,340
limit her to 20 to 20 feet wide and no more than 75% of the front-teach.

3280
06:04:27,120 --> 06:04:35,360
So I have this question about the 22 foot garage door with, is that the so that they don't

3281
06:04:35,360 --> 06:04:42,080
22 for garage doors is a matter of fact this. They make sixes and sixes, twelve, eight and eights.

3282
06:04:42,260 --> 06:04:47,780
It's very, and they make 16s, but it's very rare. I don't even think they make a 22 for garage doors.

3283
06:04:47,940 --> 06:04:50,960
So is there a reason why we've, we're even doing 20?

3284
06:04:51,080 --> 06:04:53,980
I don't know if I'm the listener to feed the garage for the garage.

3285
06:04:53,980 --> 06:04:54,860
The garage frontier.

3286
06:04:55,000 --> 06:04:57,700
Untid. Okay. So it should not be going to be garage door with.

3287
06:04:58,040 --> 06:05:01,400
Okay. Frontage. That's frontage. That makes sense. Okay. Thank you.

3288
06:05:02,650 --> 06:05:08,210
Next. Now let's talk about apartments and

3289
06:05:08,210 --> 06:05:14,970
mix-ins bills. And so first general side design standards.

3290
06:05:15,890 --> 06:05:20,930
And these standards are about the location, accessibility,

3291
06:05:21,770 --> 06:05:27,230
visibility of the mean entrances to buildings and entrances to individual units.

3292
06:05:27,230 --> 06:05:40,030
So here, it typically standard would call for 50% of all graph flow units to be directly accessible from the closer side work.

3293
06:05:44,770 --> 06:05:47,150
Second, site access standards.

3294
06:05:48,010 --> 06:05:55,210
Here, the standards are about accessibility of the sites to the ecological traffic and pedestrians.

3295
06:05:55,210 --> 06:06:05,250
So they include standard such as the driveways being less than 20 ft wide.

3296
06:06:06,370 --> 06:06:13,210
We want to provide direct pedestrian pass from the sidewalks to build an entrances.

3297
06:06:13,750 --> 06:06:22,510
Each site should be limited to 1 kb per site or 1 kb for every 200 ft.

3298
06:06:22,510 --> 06:06:27,550
and then two Cape Cards will be permitted for parking garage frontages.

3299
06:06:30,750 --> 06:06:32,590
And about Newton's standards,

3300
06:06:33,770 --> 06:06:37,490
this is about the location as greener of lunar areas

3301
06:06:37,490 --> 06:06:41,230
to minimize noise and vehicular and pedestrian conflicts.

3302
06:06:42,230 --> 06:06:44,630
So, lunar and solid waste,

3303
06:06:44,830 --> 06:06:49,450
recycling and collection areas would be centrally located

3304
06:06:49,450 --> 06:06:55,770
and Luden docks in equipment areas to be screened from adjacent properties.

3305
06:06:56,670 --> 06:07:03,050
The designated Luden docks shall be located in the rear or interior side yards,

3306
06:07:05,250 --> 06:07:05,990
and there's

3307
06:07:05,990 --> 06:07:12,170
an exception, and that has to do with Luden to the rear or side, and that is not feasible

3308
06:07:12,170 --> 06:07:18,490
on a corner property, then Luden can then be located on the non-premise 3 side of the front

3309
06:07:24,500 --> 06:07:32,820
Parking design standards are about the loodern as greenen of parking areas in the access

3310
06:07:32,820 --> 06:07:33,420
ability.

3311
06:07:34,240 --> 06:07:40,000
So, surface parking should be located behind buildings or beside buildings.

3312
06:07:41,380 --> 06:07:48,460
And we encourage that where we have parking adjacent parking spaces that the user is

3313
06:07:48,460 --> 06:07:55,140
protocol access and that has the effect of reducing the number of cat cuts. The ground floor,

3314
06:07:55,640 --> 06:08:04,840
ground floors of truck yet parking, should be lined with active uses. And so we clarified this

3315
06:08:04,840 --> 06:08:11,580
in the development standards that this standard doesn't apply to apostores, just apply to

3316
06:08:11,580 --> 06:08:22,080
ground floor spaces. And then upper levels should however have a non-parking design, access

3317
06:08:22,080 --> 06:08:34,420
should be from lower streets to busiest streets, if you will. So what this 62 is that the

3318
06:08:34,420 --> 06:08:47,060
No wooden areas and access to parking structures are better off on the less busier streets

3319
06:08:47,060 --> 06:08:55,940
because they cost a lot of disruption and conflicts with a faster traffic on the busier streets.

3320
06:08:57,080 --> 06:09:01,660
Unmanned garages should have a parking plan approved by the city.

3321
06:09:01,660 --> 06:09:10,520
The reason for this is to ensure that the unmanned parking garages do not have key when the

3322
06:09:10,520 --> 06:09:13,500
will spill out into the public right of the way.

3323
06:09:21,600 --> 06:09:30,160
So, set back in landscape design standards and these are existence standards from the

3324
06:09:30,160 --> 06:09:38,780
existing development code, and they include front yard landscape and preservation of

3325
06:09:38,780 --> 06:09:47,620
my two or three, the use of pervious or semi pervious of its material to help our stormwater

3326
06:09:47,620 --> 06:09:54,880
program, and that underground parking, student and cruise and the public streets, or dedicated

3327
06:09:54,880 --> 06:10:00,660
the public parks. These are all standards that are included in the existing development code.

3328
06:10:02,400 --> 06:10:12,420
Also, that asphalt pavement is prohibited in private and common open space areas.

3329
06:10:12,420 --> 06:10:26,700
Also, we include last given standards depending on the use of adjacent properties.

3330
06:10:27,560 --> 06:10:36,380
For instance, if the adjacent properties are residential, that the site last given,

3331
06:10:36,380 --> 06:10:46,760
That said, back last year, it might be 75% to the extent that the use is residential adjacent.

3332
06:10:47,360 --> 06:10:51,180
And then 25% of the adjacent uses retail.

3333
06:10:51,560 --> 06:10:54,840
And the reason is because of the traffic associated with retail,

3334
06:10:55,100 --> 06:10:59,240
if you have more last year, it's just going to be troubled and it's not going to take hold.

3335
06:10:59,240 --> 06:11:00,000
Private

3336
06:11:06,180 --> 06:11:13,740
open space areas. So, the private open space areas, multi-family residential and mix

3337
06:11:13,740 --> 06:11:20,300
use projects, I intended for private use for each dwelling unit. It may include balconies,

3338
06:11:20,560 --> 06:11:26,340
which may be covered or uncovered. Private gardens, private yards, terraces, decks and

3339
06:11:28,240 --> 06:11:36,980
They should, however, have a floor to seal and height, no less than 9 feet, as we said,

3340
06:11:37,140 --> 06:11:43,060
they can be covered or non-covered, and this would be directly adjacent to an accessible

3341
06:11:43,060 --> 06:11:45,520
from the dwelling units they save.

3342
06:11:48,650 --> 06:11:51,550
As for common open space areas,

3343
06:11:53,730 --> 06:11:57,810
these normally come into play in multi-family residential

3344
06:11:58,650 --> 06:12:10,330
and bigger residential mixes projects and they are shared and accessible only to the building residents and their visitors.

3345
06:12:10,330 --> 06:12:21,050
and so this shall immediately be adjacent to entrances or hallways and lobbies of residential

3346
06:12:21,050 --> 06:12:28,530
units, this shall be accessible to all residents and courtyards that are enclosed by three

3347
06:12:28,530 --> 06:12:38,210
size of a building shall have a minimum open and with that is equal to 75% of the height of the

3348
06:12:38,210 --> 06:12:39,730
join in phases.

3349
06:12:46,320 --> 06:12:54,040
So any time these common open spaces are fully enclosed, they should have

3350
06:12:54,040 --> 06:12:59,780
at least one minimum dimension. That is equal to or greater than the highest height.

3351
06:13:01,080 --> 06:13:08,200
A minimum of 60% of the open space areas shall be open to the sky. A minimum of 20% of

3352
06:13:08,200 --> 06:13:15,580
required open space shall be planted with trees, drunk of a shrubs, and there shall be

3353
06:13:15,580 --> 06:13:23,140
permanent seat in these common open space areas as well. Next, we'll talk about mass and

3354
06:13:23,140 --> 06:13:28,960
articulation, and the intent here for structures to be designed to avoid long monotonous

3355
06:13:28,960 --> 06:13:37,320
plane facades. Appropriate articulation techniques include staggered building planes, variation

3356
06:13:37,320 --> 06:13:47,060
of facades, recesses of interest and arcades, they all help to create variety and interest.

3357
06:13:48,520 --> 06:13:58,160
So the buildings should not exceed 400 feet and mix with areas and 350 feet in residential

3358
06:13:58,160 --> 06:14:09,000
So, this time, that's where previously 300 feet for mixed uses and 200 feet for residential.

3359
06:14:09,920 --> 06:14:18,700
However, we did some reconnaissance work and we visited lots of projects in this town and in surrounding cities as well.

3360
06:14:18,700 --> 06:14:28,980
And we thought it was reasonable to just the mix use builders 400 feet and 350 feet for the residential buildings.

3361
06:14:30,000 --> 06:14:39,880
And just by the side, we looked at all of the downtown San Jose with big residential buildings and mixes buildings and so on.

3362
06:14:40,120 --> 06:14:43,680
And there wasn't just single building that exceeded these standards.

3363
06:14:49,730 --> 06:14:52,850
and continuing with Martin.

3364
06:14:55,090 --> 06:14:59,970
We ask him that the Fassard planes are...

3365
06:15:00,000 --> 06:15:13,620
For example, evidence, and Marxist-based evidence should not exceed 100 feet. Therefore, every 100 feet plain, that we want a break in the, or up to three breaks.

3366
06:15:14,640 --> 06:15:29,300
So if there is one break, it's got to be a large break, or two medium breaks, or three smaller breaks. For example, a large break would be one with a width of 15 feet and a death of 10 feet.

3367
06:15:29,300 --> 06:15:38,560
And in a minor break, and we are a commander in three of them for every 100 feet would be

3368
06:15:38,560 --> 06:15:42,060
60 to wide and then 30 feet deep. Next slide.

3369
06:15:45,460 --> 06:15:55,220
Compatibility and transition. So, we are going to skip these ones because, yeah, identical to what we talked about with the single

3370
06:15:55,220 --> 06:16:02,520
family true for Plexis and they have to do with the window of such we talked about and also the

3371
06:16:02,520 --> 06:16:04,840
the project of balconies we discussed earlier.

3372
06:16:10,640 --> 06:16:15,860
And so continue with the transition standards.

3373
06:16:16,720 --> 06:16:26,760
Here we have separation requirements for buildings within a complex. The concept is the taller the

3374
06:16:26,760 --> 06:16:34,280
the larger the separation. So, for example, from the front of the building, to the front of

3375
06:16:34,280 --> 06:16:38,900
an Arab building or the back of an Arab building, if there are four storage buildings, there's a

3376
06:16:38,900 --> 06:16:45,500
separation or to be 45 feet. If there are three storage buildings, 35 feet, if there are two

3377
06:16:45,500 --> 06:16:47,600
storage buildings, 25 feet.

3378
06:16:50,460 --> 06:16:54,960
There's also, there are also standard for side building side to

3379
06:16:54,960 --> 06:17:03,440
side separation and here to the taller the building, the larger the separation, four

3380
06:17:03,440 --> 06:17:07,700
storage buildings would be separate the side to side about 25 feet and then two

3381
06:17:07,700 --> 06:17:09,620
storage buildings, 15 feet.

3382
06:17:16,140 --> 06:17:29,630
And facade design and articulation, so that ground, ground

3383
06:17:29,630 --> 06:17:39,730
frontages should include active uses of your slay, and we want, we don't have

3384
06:17:39,730 --> 06:17:50,130
quite large blank walls, so in a war, there is more than 30 feet should include

3385
06:17:50,130 --> 06:17:56,990
some articulation elements in the, like we discussed earlier. We also talked about

3386
06:17:56,990 --> 06:18:03,510
Parkinson's structures being wrapped around the front underground floor with active loses.

3387
06:18:11,580 --> 06:18:13,930
Okay, so this has to do with

3388
06:18:17,840 --> 06:18:25,760
residential uses the relationship to the public rate of we in terms of the elevation.

3389
06:18:26,880 --> 06:18:32,660
So the closer the unit is to the public rate of we

3390
06:18:32,660 --> 06:18:41,240
the higher the elevation. And so with this one, it 10 foot setback would call for, if

3391
06:18:41,240 --> 06:18:49,820
we're in a half foot elevation, and then a 15 foot setback, new elevation. So we again

3392
06:18:49,820 --> 06:18:56,680
got comments from our stakeholders, and so we added some alternative language in here.

3393
06:18:56,680 --> 06:19:04,940
that is alternatively the unit shall be provided with a kind of pitch port or a kind of pitch

3394
06:19:04,940 --> 06:19:13,420
port recess or projected even more of two feet. So if the developer is not able to or they

3395
06:19:13,420 --> 06:19:19,500
don't want to elevate these units they could include these covered portes that would either be

3396
06:19:19,500 --> 06:19:22,360
projector or recessed.

3397
06:19:26,360 --> 06:19:35,240
This talks about the transparency of, you know, graph law, active

3398
06:19:35,240 --> 06:19:46,900
spaces, and so yeah, this is covered. So the transparency is, I think, this is covered.

3399
06:19:47,820 --> 06:19:56,820
We have part of the slide which is covered so they can see it okay okay so the transparency

3400
06:19:56,820 --> 06:20:07,140
for star fronts okay for star fronts it's 65 feet within 2 and 7.5 feet and then for

3401
06:20:07,140 --> 06:20:13,680
are active and non-stop fronts will be 40 feet and we are also asking that

3402
06:20:16,320 --> 06:20:19,840
opponents that, what is this?

3403
06:20:23,170 --> 06:20:29,690
Sorry about that. We are also asking that every 50 feet or

3404
06:20:29,690 --> 06:20:35,030
those who haven't opened and that's for both the store fronts and then for other

3405
06:20:35,030 --> 06:20:38,190
commercial uses every ATFE.

3406
06:20:45,160 --> 06:20:50,780
So, balcony is where provided cellutilized relance and or similar

3407
06:20:50,780 --> 06:20:56,560
materials compatible with the overall architecture style of the development. The at least two

3408
06:20:56,560 --> 06:21:03,420
treatments, that's architectural features or landscape or at elements that tie into the overall design

3409
06:21:03,420 --> 06:21:11,440
theme shall be applied to all facades, exposure, public, blank and walls with a windows or

3410
06:21:11,440 --> 06:21:18,540
purchase or bulk on a Shelby prohibited, roof flashings and roof garries and downspots, spouts

3411
06:21:18,540 --> 06:21:27,140
and vents, Shelby screened from view of Finnish to match existing materials and or calles of

3412
06:21:27,140 --> 06:21:32,820
the structure. The all facades of a building facing the street or public space shall be treated

3413
06:21:32,820 --> 06:21:36,260
with variations in mass and articulation.

3414
06:21:41,720 --> 06:21:46,740
So, Dawson Windows should have terms in there,

3415
06:21:47,260 --> 06:21:50,180
and entries should be projected or recess,

3416
06:21:50,480 --> 06:21:51,440
at least two feet.

3417
06:21:51,920 --> 06:21:55,200
And the window terms should be minimum two inches.

3418
06:21:56,140 --> 06:21:57,880
Next slide.

3419
06:22:03,880 --> 06:22:06,280
Okay. So, about materials now,

3420
06:22:06,600 --> 06:22:08,420
that at least two materials that we use

3421
06:22:08,420 --> 06:22:18,340
in a building of frontiers in addition to glazing and railings and certain materials are not durable

3422
06:22:18,340 --> 06:22:25,860
and ought to be prohibited and they include playwood and vinyl in T1111 and plastic and plastic

3423
06:22:25,860 --> 06:22:35,660
laminates or fiberglass. We don't want these, you know, use that finises on our facades and materials

3424
06:22:35,660 --> 06:22:40,300
could continue around corners for at least two feet. Next.

3425
06:22:45,890 --> 06:22:54,550
So, Roof tiles and pitches shall be consistent with the style of the with the style and pitch

3426
06:22:55,010 --> 06:23:01,990
of other roofs within the development and additions to existing structures shall be designed

3427
06:23:01,990 --> 06:23:08,430
to match the roof line, the roof style and colors of the original structure.

3428
06:23:10,800 --> 06:23:22,000
And so we're almost there. So this talks about the screen of roof equipment that we

3429
06:23:22,000 --> 06:23:31,560
went down screened and we have a ratio in here for every one foot. There's got to be a recess

3430
06:23:31,560 --> 06:23:39,220
of 1.15 feet. Regardless of height, it's got to be a minimum 5 feet of screen and

3431
06:23:39,220 --> 06:23:48,220
and the screened materials would be similar with the materials of the facades of the building itself.

3432
06:23:50,760 --> 06:23:56,360
That in the roof equipment there are less and too thick like solar panels could be exempt from screened requirements.

3433
06:23:59,510 --> 06:24:02,710
And so, thank you very much for bearing with us.

3434
06:24:03,330 --> 06:24:09,350
This brings us to a kind of rationale through this brings us to the end of our presentation.

3435
06:24:09,350 --> 06:24:17,410
and so we recommend that the Ispal Autosary Council adopt an ordinance to approve the

3436
06:24:17,410 --> 06:24:27,410
development could amendment ZTE25-002 that appeals to the police and amend the

3437
06:24:27,410 --> 06:24:35,030
various sections of chapter 18. Regarding those definitions, type of graphical errors,

3438
06:24:35,030 --> 06:24:41,410
on a lot of standards, refueling and service stations, front setbacks, trees, accessories,

3439
06:24:41,790 --> 06:24:47,050
structures, temporary goods permits, alcohol seals at bonafide, eastern establishments,

3440
06:24:47,350 --> 06:24:53,350
conditional goods permits for public and private schools, wool occupations, and other areas

3441
06:24:53,350 --> 06:25:02,230
as set forth therein, and to find that the proposed zoning tax amendments are exempt in our

3442
06:25:02,230 --> 06:25:16,550
with SQL guidelines, Section 150, Section 153, which is the common sense exemption and Section 153,

3443
06:25:16,550 --> 06:25:26,790
785, that is not a project and Section 151, 83, and this applies to projects that are consistent

3444
06:25:26,790 --> 06:25:31,230
with the community to plan general plan or zoom in as these

3445
06:25:31,230 --> 06:25:35,010
tax amendments of the California environmental quality

3446
06:25:35,010 --> 06:25:35,710
guidelines.

3447
06:25:36,170 --> 06:25:38,070
Thank you very much for your attention.

3448
06:25:44,040 --> 06:25:45,740
Did you have any public comment on this?

3449
06:25:50,290 --> 06:25:51,430
OK, I have everybody left.

3450
06:25:51,550 --> 06:25:52,430
That way, it cares.

3451
06:25:52,870 --> 06:25:53,570
That was fine.

3452
06:25:54,430 --> 06:25:55,470
OK, go ahead.

3453
06:25:56,110 --> 06:25:57,190
Yeah, thank you for the presentation.

3454
06:25:57,410 --> 06:26:00,370
At this late hour, I already expressed this.

3455
06:26:00,690 --> 06:26:03,370
But I have concerned about requiring the reducing

3456
06:26:03,370 --> 06:26:09,070
of massing above four stories by 10% requiring to have a variety of planes in our

3457
06:26:09,070 --> 06:26:12,290
articulation, massing in articulation.

3458
06:26:14,330 --> 06:26:17,890
I really do think that we can kind of trust

3459
06:26:17,890 --> 06:26:21,690
architects on this and if you travel the world you'll see lots and lots of nice beauty,

3460
06:26:22,070 --> 06:26:26,970
buildings that are, you know, six stories in one facade with some clasque material like

3461
06:26:26,970 --> 06:26:33,030
brick or whatever. So I'm not at all in favor of dictating aesthetic choices. The other

3462
06:26:33,030 --> 06:26:38,650
about reducing the massing, it also reduces housing. So if you're going to reduce both for

3463
06:26:38,650 --> 06:26:42,350
stories, you're basically saying build less housing and I think our message should be

3464
06:26:42,350 --> 06:26:49,250
build more housing. So I don't know how we change this in five minutes because we have

3465
06:26:49,250 --> 06:26:54,450
we're all going to turn into pumpkins soon. But I do have an issue with that requirement.

3466
06:26:54,950 --> 06:26:58,090
Otherwise, thank you very much, I know. It's been a long night.

3467
06:26:59,370 --> 06:27:09,330
Thank you much for the comment and so the articulation was previously 20 feet if you

3468
06:27:09,330 --> 06:27:18,330
well but given some of the comments we got from our sequel as we reduce it to 10 feet

3469
06:27:18,330 --> 06:27:22,670
that's above the fifth law and above.

3470
06:27:23,290 --> 06:27:29,410
And that's basically to provide a light to adjacent properties.

3471
06:27:30,170 --> 06:27:33,010
But haven't said that we mentioned earlier

3472
06:27:33,010 --> 06:27:37,070
that this relationship makes this project a subject

3473
06:27:37,070 --> 06:27:40,390
to, well, the benefit from the density bonus law

3474
06:27:40,390 --> 06:27:43,050
and with that, they have opportunities

3475
06:27:43,050 --> 06:27:46,530
to weave out of certain developments than that.

3476
06:27:46,530 --> 06:27:57,030
the thing would cause them to lose number of units or would make the project more expensive

3477
06:27:57,030 --> 06:28:07,910
than would otherwise be. So the the concessions and incentives and wevers are a relief that

3478
06:28:07,910 --> 06:28:16,210
property owners and developers can use to eliminate a wave out of standards that they think are too

3479
06:28:16,210 --> 06:28:17,010
onerous.

3480
06:28:17,830 --> 06:28:23,650
And I also wanted to add that the intent of this program is to bring code updates on a regular

3481
06:28:23,650 --> 06:28:32,690
basis back to the city council for your decision. And so we are proposing these changes that

3482
06:28:32,690 --> 06:28:39,150
basically recommended by our by our consultant but also something that we've

3483
06:28:39,150 --> 06:28:43,150
vetted with the other developed with the developer architects, the various

3484
06:28:43,150 --> 06:28:49,110
including San Hill and so this is something that we're proposing now and we

3485
06:28:49,110 --> 06:28:54,630
do appreciate that this is a late hour but if we determine in working with

3486
06:28:54,630 --> 06:28:59,560
developers that this is an issue this is something that we can come back to

3487
06:28:59,560 --> 06:29:01,520
and amend along with other issues.

3488
06:29:01,800 --> 06:29:03,840
So for example, we do intend on coming back

3489
06:29:03,840 --> 06:29:05,620
likely at the end of the year with

3490
06:29:05,620 --> 06:29:08,200
some other changes that we want to bring back.

3491
06:29:08,460 --> 06:29:11,220
And so this is something that we can continue to look at.

3492
06:29:11,520 --> 06:29:13,360
Okay, here. That's fine.

3493
06:29:13,380 --> 06:29:14,900
Thank you. Yeah. I agree.

3494
06:29:15,820 --> 06:29:19,660
I'd like to move that we at least had another 15 minutes of time

3495
06:29:19,660 --> 06:29:21,560
because we're three minutes away from 1230.

3496
06:29:22,340 --> 06:29:24,580
I mean, perhaps we should go to one o'clock

3497
06:29:24,580 --> 06:29:26,780
and but we won't get there but that gives us enough time

3498
06:29:26,780 --> 06:29:27,800
to at least have some discussion.

3499
06:29:28,600 --> 06:29:32,820
or at least a pint on this each of us.

3500
06:29:32,960 --> 06:29:35,540
Didn't we make emotions? It's a 1240.

3501
06:29:36,020 --> 06:29:38,580
I'm finally extending it to one o'clock.

3502
06:29:39,860 --> 06:29:42,480
Okay, I think my motion was 1230, but.

3503
06:29:42,740 --> 06:29:46,720
Okay, well I'll make a motion that we extend the meeting to 1 a.m.

3504
06:29:48,660 --> 06:29:49,220
All in favor?

3505
06:29:49,940 --> 06:29:50,180
Yes.

3506
06:29:51,560 --> 06:29:52,800
I can meet.

3507
06:29:53,260 --> 06:29:53,520
Okay.

3508
06:29:53,520 --> 06:29:54,860
So,

3509
06:29:57,200 --> 06:29:59,980
you had a comment, Councilmember Romney.

3510
06:30:00,000 --> 06:30:03,360
I have a few,

3511
06:30:06,580 --> 06:30:15,440
so I'm a little concerned about the building max lengths. I mean, as seen from the San

3512
06:30:15,440 --> 06:30:24,840
Hill property project on Euglid, that basically just left in place a massive block. I mean,

3513
06:30:24,920 --> 06:30:29,380
originally there was some interest in doing amuse, they didn't do the amuse. Now it's just

3514
06:30:29,380 --> 06:30:40,100
basically one large, impenetrable place and 400, 400 foot max building length, I think is

3515
06:30:40,100 --> 06:30:48,320
indeed a piece of urban design and I think that they should be reduced. Again, I completely

3516
06:30:48,320 --> 06:30:54,900
agree with the mass reducing the massing about four stories. The difference that makes in terms

3517
06:30:54,900 --> 06:30:59,120
of kind of imposition on our neighborhood is huge,

3518
06:30:59,460 --> 06:31:01,740
is huge, and if you look at actually

3519
06:31:01,740 --> 06:31:03,840
classical architecture, right?

3520
06:31:04,040 --> 06:31:05,960
They actually have a way of stepping things back,

3521
06:31:06,060 --> 06:31:09,260
not just controlling it with the side materials,

3522
06:31:09,560 --> 06:31:13,120
but actually stepping things back so that you know,

3523
06:31:13,340 --> 06:31:16,300
you don't affect the daylight plane as much,

3524
06:31:17,340 --> 06:31:24,420
and you have, you know, some, you reduce the monolithic nature

3525
06:31:25,760 --> 06:31:30,620
of these buildings. I mean, look, we have to remember the cheapest thing the build is a box.

3526
06:31:31,260 --> 06:31:37,240
And if a developer can get away with building a box and selling it or renting it, they will do it.

3527
06:31:37,560 --> 06:31:45,140
And to the extent that these design guidelines actually help give even though I understand that

3528
06:31:45,940 --> 06:31:50,180
depending on the affordability, you're including in these things. If you use the

3529
06:31:50,180 --> 06:31:59,640
affordable housing. The density bonus law, you can actually wave and unlimited number of

3530
06:31:59,640 --> 06:32:05,060
these requirements. I think it's important to have these and I actually am opposed to

3531
06:32:05,700 --> 06:32:10,780
moving to the 450. I thought they were fine the way they were before,

3532
06:32:11,640 --> 06:32:19,480
but I think it was 350, particularly in the residential zones, 350 square feet. That's 350 linear feet.

3533
06:32:19,480 --> 06:32:23,260
It's a pretty large building in a residential zone.

3534
06:32:25,680 --> 06:32:30,160
Yeah, again, I would keep the reduction of massing,

3535
06:32:30,320 --> 06:32:32,460
and I think that the 20% reduction of massing

3536
06:32:32,460 --> 06:32:34,140
was probably better than the 10.

3537
06:32:34,340 --> 06:32:36,600
Perhaps they can move this to 15.

3538
06:32:36,820 --> 06:32:39,500
I understand that, you know, these are comments

3539
06:32:39,500 --> 06:32:43,080
that we got from San Hill, you know,

3540
06:32:44,260 --> 06:32:48,080
developers will have the right to reduce some of these,

3541
06:32:48,080 --> 06:32:55,680
some of these standards. I don't think we should completely adopt what they want to do.

3542
06:32:55,780 --> 06:33:02,060
Again, developers want to maximize their profit. They're not interested at all if they could

3543
06:33:02,060 --> 06:33:18,060
get away with it in urban design, right? I mean, they want to make sure that they can make a ton of

3544
06:33:18,060 --> 06:33:24,240
think that we would want to be less a little more restrictive on this. This is just an issue

3545
06:33:24,240 --> 06:33:26,160
of, yes, we need to produce more housing.

3546
06:33:28,980 --> 06:33:32,600
So, yeah, that's a concern I have.

3547
06:33:35,500 --> 06:33:36,040
There's some

3548
06:33:36,040 --> 06:33:40,400
question, there's a question I have about the mixed use buildings, street facing ground floor

3549
06:33:40,400 --> 06:33:51,580
frontages. Are we proposing that all of these buildings on the street facing side should

3550
06:33:53,800 --> 06:34:00,700
have commercial active uses on the ground floor? My concern with that is that the market

3551
06:34:00,700 --> 06:34:08,040
will only absorb a certain percentage of new commercial space. I mean, we can build it

3552
06:34:08,040 --> 06:34:16,600
it can stay there vacant forever because this citizens don't have the disposable income

3553
06:34:16,600 --> 06:34:21,580
to support, you know, 25, 40, 50,000 square feet of ground floor commercial.

3554
06:34:22,380 --> 06:34:33,540
So I'm worried that this is two, you know, this may lead to our having way, way, way

3555
06:34:33,540 --> 06:34:39,260
much commercial frontage. So I don't know. I mean,

3556
06:34:42,100 --> 06:34:44,960
yeah, it is a concern of mine. I actually

3557
06:34:44,960 --> 06:34:49,880
support the 16th book height, because there's flexibility in there that you're proposing. I think

3558
06:34:49,880 --> 06:34:53,500
you're proposing 16 feet right on those ground floors in mixed use.

3559
06:34:57,780 --> 06:34:58,760
Let's see.

3560
06:35:02,240 --> 06:35:02,980
There were a few

3561
06:35:02,980 --> 06:35:11,640
concerns I had about adjacencies. So we're reducing side setbacks to three feet. Is that correct?

3562
06:35:11,640 --> 06:35:12,580
Oh, by feet.

3563
06:35:12,940 --> 06:35:14,700
Five feet. Five feet.

3564
06:35:15,020 --> 06:35:17,780
And in the residential zones. Yes.

3565
06:35:17,780 --> 06:35:26,480
Yes. Okay. You could have zero lot line on multifamily mixed use buildings. Is that correct?

3566
06:35:26,560 --> 06:35:27,780
Or you could not in the city.

3567
06:35:32,000 --> 06:35:33,920
There's there's always a setback. Is that right?

3568
06:35:33,920 --> 06:35:44,980
Yeah, so we can do one lot of convenience where the setbacks don't come into play, but I know

3569
06:35:44,980 --> 06:35:54,000
some mixed use zones do have zero setbacks, you know, like those on the University Avenue,

3570
06:35:55,950 --> 06:35:58,090
yeah, those are front setbacks.

3571
06:35:59,400 --> 06:36:07,040
But I say that again, but I mean, so they're in terms of adjacencies, we don't have zero

3572
06:36:07,040 --> 06:36:08,020
outline in the city.

3573
06:36:08,880 --> 06:36:10,580
Um, I've got to check that.

3574
06:36:11,140 --> 06:36:11,480
Uh-huh.

3575
06:36:11,620 --> 06:36:11,960
Okay.

3576
06:36:12,060 --> 06:36:13,160
Check that.

3577
06:36:14,400 --> 06:36:16,080
So, so they're, they're eight times separated.

3578
06:36:16,220 --> 06:36:17,860
At least not in the residential room.

3579
06:36:18,300 --> 06:36:18,600
Okay.

3580
06:36:18,880 --> 06:36:20,440
Not in the residential zones.

3581
06:36:21,400 --> 06:36:26,600
Um, I'm fine with the, but we would make some zones.

3582
06:36:28,680 --> 06:36:31,240
I wanted to see my other notes here,

3583
06:36:38,610 --> 06:36:41,770
but did we, you know, I had a note here about the

3584
06:36:41,770 --> 06:36:50,970
punched windows and, okay, it's the same. So it's either a two inch trim or you punch

3585
06:36:50,970 --> 06:36:55,730
it in two inches. Why did I think it was four inches? It wasn't four inches. Is there anything

3586
06:36:55,730 --> 06:37:07,090
here that talked about a forage punch now. I think the the plane or the flesh windows you

3587
06:37:07,090 --> 06:37:08,910
may find rates.

3588
06:37:13,110 --> 06:37:17,290
Well, okay we're not allowing flesh windows and if you have a flesh windows

3589
06:37:17,290 --> 06:37:22,470
essentially what you're doing is you're putting a frame around it. If you have a flesh windows

3590
06:37:22,470 --> 06:37:25,130
What do we say it like for inches of plane?

3591
06:37:25,730 --> 06:37:29,510
I'm trying to get to the section.

3592
06:37:30,610 --> 06:37:34,010
Yeah, I see how two inches in memory set here.

3593
06:37:34,450 --> 06:37:36,570
Oh, okay. What's the difference here?

3594
06:37:37,790 --> 06:37:43,510
So four inch minimum depth for flush window recess, building the sides.

3595
06:37:45,510 --> 06:37:46,450
What's the difference?

3596
06:37:47,230 --> 06:37:51,170
There are so the individual windows would have like a trim.

3597
06:37:51,170 --> 06:37:57,690
Yeah, two inches. But where the windows are flush with the facade with the wall, then the

3598
06:37:57,690 --> 06:38:04,110
plane has got to be recessed like four inches. But on one page, so paid 64 says minimum

3599
06:38:04,110 --> 06:38:15,790
two inch recessed before. I'm sorry, I'm looking at the last last meeting's presentation because

3600
06:38:15,790 --> 06:38:24,550
that's what I marked up. So I guess it's where we're talking about roofs. I'm sorry. It's

3601
06:38:24,550 --> 06:38:33,130
figure 19 window design says 2-inch recess. And then figure 20 says windows and recess

3602
06:38:33,130 --> 06:38:42,690
façade modulations for inch depth. So we're making a distinction between a façade modulation

3603
06:38:42,690 --> 06:38:52,250
and window design is exactly. Exactly. Okay. Okay. So the the facade modulation is an entire

3604
06:38:52,250 --> 06:38:58,350
section, the playing recessed. Exactly. That playing, that playing. Yeah. But the window is

3605
06:38:58,350 --> 06:39:02,970
sub-distreams. Yeah. It's okay. It does the first. Yeah.

3606
06:39:08,940 --> 06:39:12,740
I think you addressed. You know, I really

3607
06:39:12,740 --> 06:39:19,700
wish we could and hopefully we'll have a design manual but these these blocky

3608
06:39:21,660 --> 06:39:28,160
illustrations don't really help much you know I I understand them I understand but I think

3609
06:39:28,160 --> 06:39:34,300
they're probably better ways of representing them actually I think sometimes he goes design guidelines

3610
06:39:34,300 --> 06:39:42,000
actually do a pretty good job of addressing this these and it because I had to look at this a couple

3611
06:39:42,000 --> 06:39:50,580
times and I use the drug, I read them and I use the drug. Anyway, we can work on the illustration.

3612
06:39:50,960 --> 06:39:57,300
Yeah, I mean, those are easy enough to do. Okay. Basically, it's for every 100 feet,

3613
06:39:57,540 --> 06:40:02,740
you don't have one light brick or two medium bricks or three manual bricks,

3614
06:40:03,100 --> 06:40:08,980
but we can work on the illustration. And in general, for the mixed used zoning districts,

3615
06:40:09,540 --> 06:40:14,380
Sites up backs aren't zero, so there's no zero-sites up backs in the mixed system.

3616
06:40:15,300 --> 06:40:20,340
Only the front. Only the front would allow up to zero, zero-set backs.

3617
06:40:20,480 --> 06:40:26,080
So there's usually a max-set backs. Right, so there's like, I think it's like 10-foot maximum.

3618
06:40:26,240 --> 06:40:30,780
Right. Front-set back and up to zero-set backs. But generally for residential projects,

3619
06:40:31,260 --> 06:40:33,940
the requirement is to have some zero-set back unless it's a condo,

3620
06:40:34,960 --> 06:40:37,460
town homestow, condo, complex.

3621
06:40:40,100 --> 06:40:46,980
got it. But then you'd have to recess the entrances. I mean because you're actually talking

3622
06:40:46,980 --> 06:40:55,520
about, I mean if you had condo entrances on the public side of the street, on the street,

3623
06:40:56,300 --> 06:41:03,120
on the street, you would not be allowed to put a flush door on zero-lot line.

3624
06:41:08,440 --> 06:41:08,960
You'd actually

3625
06:41:08,960 --> 06:41:15,240
I mean, is there a situation where we could actually have 0, 0, a lot of line doors?

3626
06:41:15,820 --> 06:41:16,180
Okay.

3627
06:41:16,220 --> 06:41:17,180
So, frontage.

3628
06:41:18,060 --> 06:41:23,460
So, for mixed zones, one can do 0, a lot of line.

3629
06:41:24,140 --> 06:41:27,140
And do for the commercial side, no?

3630
06:41:27,760 --> 06:41:31,320
Yeah, because the mixed uses, you want to have these active.

3631
06:41:31,820 --> 06:41:31,840
Yeah.

3632
06:41:32,340 --> 06:41:33,180
You just want to fail.

3633
06:41:33,600 --> 06:41:34,040
That's fine.

3634
06:41:34,780 --> 06:41:38,940
But we don't have any situations where on a resident, with an a resident,

3635
06:41:38,940 --> 06:41:45,160
an inch of building that actually has ground floor residential that you would have

3636
06:41:47,400 --> 06:41:54,640
doorways that a central I'm almost project on to the sidewalk. No, so the residential

3637
06:41:55,580 --> 06:42:05,120
zones do not allow a zero said about okay only the mixed zones do got it yeah

3638
06:42:05,920 --> 06:42:11,200
Yeah, I think those are, those are some of my comments, and there is a lot contained in this.

3639
06:42:12,920 --> 06:42:20,080
I do, I do think that perhaps we have gone overboard by accepting these 400 foot-long

3640
06:42:21,920 --> 06:42:24,660
besides, again, I think we're going to break up super blocks.

3641
06:42:25,540 --> 06:42:28,920
And those things tend to be rather large.

3642
06:42:28,920 --> 06:42:38,700
I mean, look, I could see this in, you know, Mission Bay where I've developed before, where, you know, the lots are different and it's just, it's a different typology.

3643
06:42:40,460 --> 06:42:49,040
I, I fear that these 400 foot buildings just seem to be at a place and we should have gone back to go back to that 300.

3644
06:42:49,040 --> 06:42:59,080
So actually after when we initially did the 200 feet for residential and 300 feet for

3645
06:42:59,080 --> 06:43:05,040
mixed projects we went back and as I said we looked at projects in town for example

3646
06:43:05,040 --> 06:43:13,900
callibrary commons. The sub-building and the number of buildings are almost 250 feet.

3647
06:43:15,000 --> 06:43:22,860
And we looked at projects in other cities too and there were buildings, very nice buildings,

3648
06:43:23,600 --> 06:43:28,040
articulated buildings that were about 300 feet.

3649
06:43:28,040 --> 06:43:35,960
makes use projects. There were buildings we found and we have some of them in this presentation

3650
06:43:35,960 --> 06:43:44,960
we just initiated and that way more than 300 feet. And so rather than including these

3651
06:43:44,960 --> 06:43:52,540
standards, there are going to force developers and applicants to get less rivers we thought

3652
06:43:52,540 --> 06:43:56,820
who just increase in some, we currently have some development.

3653
06:43:56,900 --> 06:43:59,820
And his waivers believe he failed to get the photo.

3654
06:44:00,100 --> 06:44:03,560
I'm sorry, you know, right, we, we currently have development

3655
06:44:03,560 --> 06:44:10,420
proposals that residential, um, that are up to 300 feet long.

3656
06:44:10,720 --> 06:44:12,000
They have blocks in there.

3657
06:44:12,000 --> 06:44:17,460
So it's up to their castle, um, if, if we want to go back to the 200 feet

3658
06:44:17,460 --> 06:44:22,160
and 300 feet of yours, let us, something, you know,

3659
06:44:22,720 --> 06:44:27,100
it's the length of a soccer field, it's the length of a football field. I mean, that's a

3660
06:44:27,100 --> 06:44:33,500
pretty long building, but I know we're bringing up the facade, we're articulating it, but

3661
06:44:33,500 --> 06:44:41,320
I mean, to move to 400 feet is just, I think, way beyond what we should be doing.

3662
06:44:41,660 --> 06:44:47,280
Yeah, thank you. I said, just one comment. I was hoping we can just kind of wrap this up.

3663
06:44:47,280 --> 06:44:50,580
And if you have any additional comments,

3664
06:44:52,960 --> 06:44:56,320
you know, we could, if these can be taken offline

3665
06:44:56,320 --> 06:44:59,840
or if it's not like contributing to sending or changing, whatever.

3666
06:45:00,000 --> 06:45:06,320
We're going to adopt, I think, we could, I'm just trying to wrap it up, but it's almost 1 a.m.

3667
06:45:09,780 --> 06:45:16,540
We want to summarize again that it needs to be 200, and now it's 300, or you're saying 400.

3668
06:45:17,220 --> 06:45:20,100
So, I mean, because that that seemed to be okay.

3669
06:45:20,880 --> 06:45:20,880
Okay.

3670
06:45:23,040 --> 06:45:32,000
I know we could later on to change this whatever, but to start with, yeah, you want to just review that again.

3671
06:45:32,000 --> 06:45:32,500
Okay.

3672
06:45:34,820 --> 06:45:44,980
So initially we were proposing for residential buildings that they be limited to a maximum

3673
06:45:44,980 --> 06:45:55,640
of 200 feet long and for mixed use buildings 300 feet long. But then we had from some of our

3674
06:45:55,640 --> 06:46:04,800
who this does that do stand us way to limit and they will do in projects and

3675
06:46:04,800 --> 06:46:10,560
proposal projects in the city that were larger than those. So we went and we did

3676
06:46:10,560 --> 06:46:15,700
our due diligence, we went around the city, it's part of the alto, we looked

3677
06:46:15,700 --> 06:46:22,920
at equilibrium commons and light tree and so on so forth and we realized that some of

3678
06:46:22,920 --> 06:46:31,500
buildings were about 250 feet. We reviewed some of the current proposals we have and some

3679
06:46:31,500 --> 06:46:42,600
of the buildings were 300 feet and then we looked around some other series and so we used

3680
06:46:42,600 --> 06:46:55,560
We thought 350 feet was probably appropriate for residential and mixed projects,

3681
06:46:55,920 --> 06:46:59,860
large mixed projects, typically a little larger than the residential.

3682
06:47:00,580 --> 06:47:08,020
We thought of the 400 feet, but again, these things are subjective until you make them objective.

3683
06:47:09,460 --> 06:47:13,020
And so 300 feet, this is 400 feet.

3684
06:47:13,800 --> 06:47:19,880
That's a choice that it also has to be big, but once you make that choice, then it becomes an objective standard.

3685
06:47:29,420 --> 06:47:34,140
All right, if there's no additional comments I would just like to make a motion that we adopt,

3686
06:47:34,300 --> 06:47:42,100
the staff's recommendation in the way of the first reading it to do with the ordinance as presented.

3687
06:47:42,880 --> 06:47:44,380
I'll sign up.

3688
06:47:46,600 --> 06:47:59,200
Again, I voiced my, the reason I don't think we should be doing the 300 and 400 and if it moves forward as a 300 and 400 I will be voting no in it.

3689
06:47:59,380 --> 06:48:05,020
I think it actually does have a very large impact and again think of the length of a football field.

3690
06:48:05,740 --> 06:48:09,500
And then think of the length of a football field plus the oval around it.

3691
06:48:09,500 --> 06:48:15,800
If there's a track, it is a very, if you've been inside the Stanford Stadium, from

3692
06:48:15,800 --> 06:48:18,740
Bleacher to Bleacher, that's about how long it is for 100 feet.

3693
06:48:18,740 --> 06:48:19,300
It's huge.

3694
06:48:22,260 --> 06:48:34,490
Yeah, you know, I feel like we're already very densely constructed and, you know, for the

3695
06:48:34,490 --> 06:48:41,730
We all perlabor once to absolutely have to do that, they could come to the console and say,

3696
06:48:43,210 --> 06:48:44,610
I wanted to change this.

3697
06:48:45,530 --> 06:48:50,770
But I'm also not in support of that big difference now, going.

3698
06:48:51,950 --> 06:49:00,390
You know, yeah, so do you have an alternative to the most modified somewhat?

3699
06:49:03,390 --> 06:49:03,870
Yeah.

3700
06:49:03,870 --> 06:49:07,150
The military motion was to return to the, was that 200,

3701
06:49:10,380 --> 06:49:10,380
300?

3702
06:49:10,760 --> 06:49:11,200
That's your 100.

3703
06:49:11,840 --> 06:49:14,680
200 for a national and 300 for mixed sprung.

3704
06:49:15,360 --> 06:49:17,800
And you're saying Colby Commons is like 230 or something.

3705
06:49:18,060 --> 06:49:18,740
Like the 230.

3706
06:49:19,300 --> 06:49:21,620
Colby is, yeah, it's,

3707
06:49:21,620 --> 06:49:27,080
So maybe it's 250 and 300, residential 250, 300 on the other side.

3708
06:49:27,560 --> 06:49:29,820
That's, that's again, this size of the building.

3709
06:49:30,020 --> 06:49:31,340
I mean, you could,

3710
06:49:31,340 --> 06:49:33,320
Yeah, back to what the next to each other.

3711
06:49:33,340 --> 06:49:34,120
Who saw a big build?

3712
06:49:34,120 --> 06:49:40,820
I mean, there are 254 results that would send the work, you know, and 300 from mixed

3713
06:49:40,820 --> 06:49:42,740
useful work as well.

3714
06:49:44,760 --> 06:49:49,880
That would be my modification at this point and, you know, let's, let's keep the

3715
06:49:49,880 --> 06:49:56,080
10% in support of that and, you know, it's time goes by and if totally infeasible and they

3716
06:49:56,080 --> 06:50:03,740
want to come back, that's fine. And again, we can use

3717
06:50:03,740 --> 06:50:06,360
we best to increase the length.

3718
06:50:09,050 --> 06:50:12,350
Okay, well, we have a modified motion

3719
06:50:12,350 --> 06:50:18,930
changing the length to how many feet? Um, 250 feet for us to

3720
06:50:18,930 --> 06:50:23,030
that cell. Okay, then 300 feet for mixed use. We'll get a

3721
06:50:23,790 --> 06:50:33,970
second. I'm all in favor. Hi. Hi. Hi. Okay. Motion passes. Do we have any council reports?

3722
06:50:36,810 --> 06:50:37,250
Okay.

3723
06:50:37,490 --> 06:50:41,710
The air point of order, just really close. One of the report out in close session, no report

3724
06:50:41,710 --> 06:50:45,570
of last year because there was so much rock as we didn't, we were unable to do that. Thank you. Okay.

3725
06:50:45,850 --> 06:50:54,610
Welcome. No council reports. I think that we can move to a journalist meeting at 1251 AM on March

3726
06:50:54,610 --> 06:50:56,190
6, 20, 20, 6.