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All right. Great. Call to order our public safety meeting for September, and start off with the roll call.

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Second. Chair Hicks. Yes. Here.

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Mr. Chair, Mr. Chair Olson, Commissioner Kamar, Commissioner Alpogate, Commissioner Pinkin.

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Here.

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Thanks.

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I'm still getting used to conducting the meetings, so I appreciate it.

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A pleasure of allegiance.

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Let's start off with that.

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I'd like to lead us about you.

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Commissioner Pinkham.

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Hands over your heart.

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Please face the flag.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic,

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or one which stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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Thank you.

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You see it?

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Thank you.

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All right.

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We'll start off with our comments from the public.

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Sir, you have no comments?

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we have no other comments that we're written in public we

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do have one comment but

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is for an item on the agenda so we will move on then comments of the

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public are closed reordering of the agenda have any motions to reorder the

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agenda different okay sent calendar minutes of the public safety commission

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meetings from June 23rd. Do we have any amendments to that? I know that I

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think we revisited it last time about one comment that I had made it would look

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like it may have been refraised in there and was adjusted. Everybody have a

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chance to look at that?

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It was just a comment that I had made about question the

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The veracity, I think, was the term that they used it, I was just asking questions, is a different context of questioning the veracity versus questioning the program, per se, asking questions versus questioning the,

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it made some small adjustment, but I'm happy with that as we're discussing it again today, and we had it discussed previously.

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I was going to wait until the end of our meeting, but we talked about the homeless ordinance and it was going to be on the agenda for tonight, and it's not.

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So I didn't know if that's going to be on another agenda.

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What's discussed after the at the end of the meeting?

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Okay.

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Push that to the back.

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We do have a comment from David Hackson regarding the minutes for the August 27th regarding

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a correction.

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So I just want to note that for the record that if you approve the minutes we will be

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adjusting the comment to David Hackson highlighted the lack of detailed cost and logistics

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and staff report for proposed signs and suggested using a system of solar powered remote controlled

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And that would be a adjustment to page three.

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So you'd be approving with that adjustment.

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This is on page three from the August meeting.

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June 23rd, June.

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August meeting.

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August meeting.

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Okay.

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Turn the head.

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Okay.

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as on page three and that is his

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concerns.

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You had a lot more verbiage in what this one said at that time.

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Correct.

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Which she just entered into the record.

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Correct.

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So if you're approving the minutes, it

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will be with that revised language tomorrow.

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I'm going to accurately reflect his public comment.

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Does anybody need to hear that comment again?

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You please.

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David Haxson highlighted the lack of detailed costs

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and logistics in the SAF report for proposed signs and suggested using a system of solar-powered

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remote controlled warning signs to improve communication during high-risk fire days.

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He recommended focusing on local wind conditions instead of broad red-black warnings and emphasized

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need for clear timely notifications to avoid confusion and ensure public safety.

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Again, this is a summary of his comment.

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The full comment can be heard on the video recording for the August 27th Special Joint Meeting

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Minute.

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Okay,

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so we'll let's go back to the first one and June 23rd we have a motion to approve

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those minutes.

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Sure.

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I'll move to those minutes.

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Second.

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All right.

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The meetings are approved for June 23rd, the August 27th with the added comments from

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Mr. Axworth.

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Yes.

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The motion to approve.

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Second.

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Okay.

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It's been approved.

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Newer continued business.

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We'll start off with the Los Angeles County Fire Department, Fire Act CBR report for August

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2025, Gender Item 2 for me.

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For August, total of 166 responses in the city, 94 of those were for medical calls and

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we transported 64 patients.

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There were 11 traffic collisions reported.

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One in particular was on August 27th on Disconso Drive.

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And that was versus an e-bike.

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And the rider of the e-bike was a 63-year-old male.

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There was one sire during the month.

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and that was a trash fire on town center dries and then the other note where the incident

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for the month was a tree that had come down into the corner of a two-story home on Palm

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Drive. There was a tree removal service on scene when firefighters got there so the tree

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had come down before that and the firefighters did have them stop work and they notified

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building and safety and building and safety came out and inspected to make sure that there

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was nothing structural going going on before the tree removal service could continue its

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work. So they gave them the green light and they continued to remove that tree. And that

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Are there particular type of trees that they have to get a permit to remove?

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The only tree that you actually need a permit to remove as far as I know of is an oak

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tree.

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Oh yeah, that's what I was questioning.

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My daughter lives where there's lots of oak trees and like a thousand dollars.

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This was not just a tree removal.

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This was a tree that came crashing down into a house.

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So that's an emergency and you do what you need to do.

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Could you repeat you said you had the e-bike of note the injury

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there? What was? No injury. Oh, there was no injury on the e-bike there

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inputs on the. Just out of curiosity I was wondering the tree fell on a house

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who's responsible for the tree falling on the house. Is it the city of

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imagine it's the homeowner. I can speak to that briefly. It just really depends

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So if a tree falls if it's in the public right of way

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Then it's a city owned tree and it could potentially fall from a public right of way onto a private property

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Um, in which case again city responsibility, but if it's a private tree that fell onto the private property

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Then it's the private properties owners responsibility

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Okay, thank you

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So I wanted to make one comment.

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It was just last week.

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We certainly appreciated the preparedness

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or preparedness community event that we saw hosted here

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last week.

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It seemed to be fairly well attended,

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and I think there was a lot of good interface there,

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especially with the booths that you guys had set up

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with the QR codes, where you could come back later,

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as well as the booklets and preparedness.

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I thought that was a really class act, and I even got like a little...

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...sucking the bear thing here, but I thought that was pretty cool.

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It was significant about it.

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It was more than just for adults.

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It was also for kids, and to build their preparedness and awareness of what is going on.

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So, I thought that was great.

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The fire goats were a big hit.

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We appreciate the opportunity to showcase the different agencies around here that take

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part in the community and work side-by-side with us with excellent communication.

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And that's the JPL fire force service, of course along with our law of working partner

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CHP.

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It was great.

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We're very fortunate.

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No, I have a question.

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I pass out the flyer regarding the governor signed an executive order regarding zone zero,

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which is going to start, I believe, January, 2026, but you guys are aware of it.

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We've been talking about zone zero for the past couple of years.

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And we have included it in the letters that we've been sending out to the residents for

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brush clearance every year, stating that we would not be enforcing zone zero for the

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past two years, those letters have included that we will not be enforcing zone zero.

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Zone zero was actually passed probably three years ago, it's out of assembly bill 3074.

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And so we've been talking about it for a number of years now.

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We are still not enforcing it.

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It will go into effect on January 1, 2026, but only for new construction.

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So existing homes will not be subject to zone zero until 2028.

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So that people have basically two and a half years still to think about what changes they

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might want to make to their landscaping within five feet of the home.

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And, you know, we're encouraging that people start thinking about that now, start planning

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for it, consider what changes you might want to make, and then make those changes gradually

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over the next two and a half years, so that by the time 2028 comes around, you'll already

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be in compliance.

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And I do recommend that you have any further questions that we hold off any discussion on

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any sort of thing for, like, an actual formalized agenda item.

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Okay, let's move on then to the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department, crime statistics report for August 2025, Deputy.

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Thank you, good evening, Sheriff Vice Chair and commissioners.

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My name is Deputy Alexander and I'm going to present the Sheriff's Support for the month of August.

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In regards to part one crimes that were no murders, rapes, robberies, or arson, there was one aggravator's salt.

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five residential burglaries and two other burglaries, 19 thefts and one grant

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theft auto. In regards to part two crimes, three vandalisms, one narcotics

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incident, and four fraud and identity thefts. Traffic statistics, 80 citations

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issued, 57 warnings given, two traffic collisions with injuries and five

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traffic collisions with no injuries. There were no flock safety related vehicle

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recovery is in August. Some stuff to highlight is 15 arrests in the city of

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the Locking Outer for the month of August up from 10 in July. No Cadillac

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converters, aggravators solve down 20% year-to-date in regards to trespassing,

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eight trespassing or possible trespassing calls and no reports. For 923's illegal

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shootings, one illegal shooting call and no illegal shooting reports. This concludes

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the statistics for a month of August. Any questions?

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Increase over last month. August over July.

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Can you say? For arrests?

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Yeah. Just, it's just up by five. So 15 this month, last month was 10.

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Any, any reason or that pretty standard?

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It just fluctuates throughout the month. I mean, it's just, we can't really pinpoint

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that's the will cause the rest to go up. Yeah, it is up by five.

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I like that the

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robberies are zero again, and for that least in August, the aggravated assault. What

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do you have any information on that? It seems like

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We have one almost, I won't say every other month, but it's this is twice in a row now when we had a little bit of a reprieve in the spring. Yeah. So, I don't have much detail, but just like a little synopsis is suspect shattered. The windows of the victim's Lamborghini.

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And yeah, then, then approach the suspect with a sledgehammer, but was possibly scared away by witnesses. As far as details when it comes to the actual

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call for service. I don't have that detail, but I can get it for you guys.

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So an aggravated assault doesn't have to be against a bodily person. It can just be against a property.

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If you smash the windows of a vehicle, I had a curiosity. I just needed a chair.

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So real quick, just for that specific statistic, the assault part can still be completed with just somebody,

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In this scenario, for example, he raised it and approached, but he never actually struck

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the victim.

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That still qualifies it completes the assault because it just means that someone who has

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the capability and the capability to commit great bodily injury has done that.

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So if there is no physical, he didn't actually get hit, it still completes the assault elements

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of the crime.

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The comments on the report?

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Generally, would you say, what would you say the statistics kind of speak for themselves

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but are you noticing any trends that you can impart to us as we get into the fall?

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We may want to expect as residents.

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Yes, that's a fantastic question, sir.

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So, I mean, I think we've mentioned it in the past last year and the year prior, obviously

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the holiday seasons are coming, with outcomes, gifts, and presence, and a lot of people,

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including myself, we get stuff delivered all the time.

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Even though the package theft and things like that, mail theft might be, you know, it might

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happen during the other months of the year, it does seem to be a little bit more in terms

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of like I feel like it's more it might happen more frequently to victim so we just always emphasize

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making sure that you know you're either there and if you're not then you can schedule some kind

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of drop off time or you know do one of those drop box locations or something like that to where

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it's not sitting because Armin I see it all the time even right now with you know the holiday

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still a couple of months away. We'll see larger packages, I don't know what they are but they are

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obviously of some value and they just sit and we'll do like an entire ship we'll head back

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that same street and it's still there so I mean if we see it I can almost guarantee you know that

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it's it's being seen by others too so if we could just be mindful of that and then as always myself

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on arm and our other guys that are on the the shifts in terms of the city will always patrol you

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know the shopping areas because now there's a lot of foot traffic and a lot of activity

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so we'll be doing that but those are probably just a couple of the more important tips.

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I think that also appreciate that and it does underscore again the neighborhood watch program

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because really comes into play watching everybody's homes and unusual vehicles and I would

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but also just mentioned that with that engaged neighborhood watch, I know I've seen increased,

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it almost seems like increased number of deputies in and around the community in response

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to some of the neighborhood watch reports that have made the residents feel safer as well

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as having eyes and ears nearby for areas that appear to be getting hit as of more recent

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or at least suspicious activity, so that is really appreciated by all of the residents of our community as well.

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I just wanted to, I know it's been a couple months now, but I congratulate Captain Vienna for his permanent appointment to that position.

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I saw him again at the preparedness thing and it's just great to be in a community where our deputies are so engaged in such a part of the community feeling a sense of ownership.

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and easy to interface with and very responsive.

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So definitely, we appreciate that and thank you for that.

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Thank you, sir.

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Anything else on the statistics before we move on?

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Nope.

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Okay, I'll

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put back here next on it.

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The agenda is to discuss and make formal recommendation

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on the proposed, no parking during the red flag warning policy,

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which is agenda item 4,

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pulling that up.

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This is something that is expected that we'd be deliberating on on this meeting.

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I first want to open it up to the city to see if they have any comments for us to consider

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as we go into a discussion period here regarding any modifications or changes or things of note

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that we need to consider regarding the red flag.

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So as you just mentioned, the discussion today is for you guys to make a formal recommendation

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regarding the proposal.

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You guys have discussed this a couple different times regarding the program.

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There's been a lot of outreach in town halls on August 27th.

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You had a joint meeting with the Public Works and Traffic Commission.

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A couple key considerations came out regarding scope of restrictions, activation criteria,

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notification methods, and general support.

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So in terms of next steps for this program, again today, we have three options for you,

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so you'll be making a recommendation on one of those.

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The options are to recommend adopting the proposed program on the designated streets to

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to recommend adopting it city-wide or to not adopt it.

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Those are your three options today.

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Following your recommendation,

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on October 21st, city council will then consider the program

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and make the final determination.

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If you want any more information regarding the program,

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I'm happy to answer any questions.

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If not, we will ask that you open it to public comment.

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And I do have one comment, Connor, I will hand you.

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So again, if you have any questions or staff now, I'm happy to answer those.

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Do we have any immediate questions before we offer a public comment regarding what we've discussed?

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I have a question.

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So far.

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So basically, the options are, we have those three options, what you said.

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So if we want to say that if we had, we couldn't have an option saying there's just,

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have a particularly dangerous situation rather than a red flag, that wouldn't be or an alternative.

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We can't go on or we can't just we can't recommend an alternative to what the three options are.

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Potentially with minimum changes, however it would have to be extremely outlined, so it is recommended that you follow one of the options.

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questions?

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Any other questions from staff? Before you do the public comment here. Okay.

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We do have a public comment card from Mr. Haxton, sir.

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David Haxton, city resident. Is

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that working?

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Before I get into my comment, let me just say, when the city tree falls on

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your property, the city isn't liable unless they've been negligent.

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City gets half a dozen claims a year of like branches falling and trees and stuff.

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If the city has had an arborist and professional tree trimming service in like last four years,

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they say they denied the claim because we haven't been negligent.

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Things happen, wind, tree limbs that have no visible or any way you can know that they're

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weak.

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you know they drop on a car so it's actually very rare for the city to emit

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liability and that's why I have homers and insurance and think about homers

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and insurance as you pay a deductible so if you have a $500 deductible and it's

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only $700 damage you might say I won't even bother because it's a mark

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against me the insurance company anyway as to this topic I think it should be

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particularly dangerous situation days there should be a like a minimum win

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because the wind is the big issue here just a plain old fire like the station

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fire with no wind we were fine I remember watching the tankers and stuff and

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we went to the beach and come back and watch you know as we weren't in danger at

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all it's the wind that puts you in danger so I think whatever a particularly

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a dangerous situation should be whatever 35 miles an hour or whatever it is.

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Secondly, I think it makes more sense to do the whole city instead of particular streets.

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I think particular streets you have the problem with those residents then clogging neighboring

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streets and causing issues there.

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I think the big problem with either way the whole city or particular streets is communication.

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That is, I mean, when a particular danger situation happens, it could be 10 p.m., it could

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be 3 a.m., it could be 9 a.m., anytime during the day.

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Let's just say it's the middle of the day and you've got some people at work, dozens

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of miles away, you've got some people working at home, you've got some people, the regular,

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you know, daily thing of taking the kids to school and all you've got kids in school,

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You've got teachers parking on the streets around the schools.

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It's how are they all going to know that you can't park like the LCE teachers.

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Very many of them park on Locking out of Boulevard.

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How are they supposed to know that at nine o'clock in the morning,

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they're no longer supposed to park there.

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And they come out of school and find that their car has been towed.

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I think communication is really the big issue, and as I said, it doesn't matter if it's

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some streets or all streets, it's the same problem.

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I was disappointed that tonight, a month ago when you had your joint meeting, I complained

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that there wasn't any financial information, cost information about what would all these

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if you did particular streets, what would all these signs cost?

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Because to me, you know, cost is, it's in the balance.

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I mean safety and cost, safety is more important, but you know how you do the safety is affected

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by the cost.

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So, I'm disappointed tonight that was nothing about cost.

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And I think the communication is where, you know, somehow, everybody's got to get something

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on their phone, everybody's got to see signs.

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If you do all the streets, you don't need as many signs.

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If you do just some streets, you need tons of signs on those streets.

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So I think it's not going to be popular with people doing this, but I think it's necessary

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for safety.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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I will also note for the record that the commission did receive an email from Sydney motif regarding

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Starting this item, the full comment again was emailed to you, but just a note for the record.

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Thank you.

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I did have a, actually, Mr. Hackworth actually touched on a point that it was important

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that I had been thinking about as well as some of his other points, but the communication element.

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As I understand it, there's an alert system with the fire LA County fires, that correct?

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There's no website to get alerts.

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How is that planned on being communicated that we had the red flag?

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So red flag, I was curious about the fire department when I was asking them specifically.

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When there is a red flag warning, we usually put out a media advisory that goes to all of the outlets and

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we put it on social media, all of our social media accounts.

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So, we are very proactive when it comes to knowing that a red flag warning has been issued

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and getting the word out, however we can, to let the public know that a red flag.

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And the media is pretty, pretty well on top of it as well.

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Even if they don't hear it from us, they know when there's red flag.

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And even during their weather reports, they will talk about red flag warnings.

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So, word gets out there that we're in a red flag.

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The only difference might be that they might not say exactly where the red flag is, what areas are affected by the red flag.

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So there are instances where there's a red flag warning throughout Los Angeles County except the Santa Monica Mountains.

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Or there's a red flag warning that applies only to the Santa Monica Mountains.

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or there's a red flag warning that is in the Santa Clarita Valley and Antelope Valley almost

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explicitly. Those are not as common but they do happen. For the most...

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As part, when there's a red flag warning throughout Los Angeles County, it is throughout Los Angeles County. It usually affects all of Los Angeles County. Okay, so it does sound like you guys have a fairly well oiled and robust system of communication to reach out to the residents to alert them of the red flag. So our social media news outlets carries, it's not part department that's putting out a red flag warning. It's national weather service.

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So, national weather service is producing the red flag warning, and then we would duplicate

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that on our social media, but you're going to see it on social media, you're going to

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see it on all the news outlets.

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It's typically in this in Southern California, especially in the last recent years, because

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of the fire history in the last couple of years, it's usually a big deal when red flag is put

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out, and they will usually capture that very well.

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Okay.

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Excellent.

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Let me also just say in regards to particular dangerous situations.

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So we are at the judgment of the National Weather Service if they put a particular dangerous

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situation in place.

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Let me be very clear.

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A wind-driven fire is a wind-driven fire, red flag, no red flag, PDS, no PDS.

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So if we're going to implement something where we need parking enforced, we're going to need

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that during red flag situations, there's a lot of red flag situations where we've had very large fires

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historically that did not fall under particularly dangerous situations.

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So coming from the fire department, I think it's important to notice that a red flag event

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is a red flag event, and there is a need to take it serious for the potential for fire.

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And that's what they're putting out for.

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Thank you.

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Katz, it's a seriously typically involving wind, not always, but typically involving wind.

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a relatively serious footing that needs to take place during these red flag days with

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the criteria that was specified from the N.O.

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In our community?

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Yes.

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A very serious footing.

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Right.

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Madison, I'm sorry, I know you wanted to chime in there, but I wanted to hear from them

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first, please.

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I was just going to emphasize that again, that these warnings are issued by the National

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a weather service, not the fire department themselves as well as the city would be the ones

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echoing the message, but again, it is issued by the National Weather Service.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Appreciate that.

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Yeah, I was just looking at the at this system here, the emergency notifications, the alert

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LA County, ready LA County, and I just thought that was part of it also, that we can register

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for it on the ready.la county.gov was that part of is that part of your your

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your all footprint that yes alert alert LA County falls under the Office of

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Emergency Management okay not the fire department okay so they are the ones

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that push out the notices for evacuations that the they put out the weas they do

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the mass notification phone calls they do all that the fire department is not

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doing those mass notifications, it is the Office of Emergency Management that is handling all of that.

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Thank you.

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All right, so with that, and again, I really appreciate the way that this has been, so this all

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obviously happened in the beginning of the year. We had a very big event but it's not, it wasn't a

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surprise per se, but it was very close. It was a very, very close call and all of the residents

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We had the evacuation, it was a big wake-up call for all of us, and an opportunity for us to learn how we can do things better as a community and as residents, a personal responsibility, as well as some agency responsibility, maybe some infrastructure discussion there, so we got to do that, and from that, the proposal that involved the residents was this, that a lot of time and effort went into developing discussion.

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and input as it was for the members that want to participate as well as the joint commission

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meeting that we had and a fairly large, I would say almost complicated, package that

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went along with that.

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So we're here now because of the threat and we want to do something, perhaps that will be

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one of the recommendations. And the three that Melissa discussed, which was do nothing,

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I'll just underscore that it's not, it's not when we say do nothing, one of them would

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be not to recommend not taking any action regarding this plan. The other one was to adopt

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this plan as it is written. And then the third option would be to take this concern that

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that we have and just simplify it greatly and blossom it to the whole city so that we all are on the same footing.

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So those are the things that we're going to discuss and then hopefully come out of this with a recommendation, one way or the other.

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So the way I'd like to begin this is start, I'll just go from right to left and take comments and start discussion on it and

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We can see where everybody initially stands on the proposal as it currently is sitting before us, so Commissioner Pinkham.

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Good evening.

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Out of the three options, the as is, the city wide, or the not adopts at this point, I would support the as is as the plan has currently been developed and put together.

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I know there's mention here about the thought that a city wide would be more equitable or

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help balance the load across the city, I understand that feeling and wanting to make

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it feel that way, but I think we'd actually create additional problems in that type

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of a format.

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From our last meeting, I've been taking the time in my afternoons and evenings when I'm

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driving through the city to see how many cars are parked in front of houses.

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And do they have spots in their driveways?

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And I would say 99% have spots in their driveways.

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So, on these days, where this type of event is taking place, there is room to put your car in the driveway.

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You're not even looking at, hey, you've got to put it on another block.

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Now, I know there's always exceptions to the rule.

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You've got a bunch of high school kids in your home, you have people visiting, other scenarios going on,

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where you may have additional vehicles at your house at that point in time.

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And for those scenarios, I think having adjacent blocks available is a lot more reasonable

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and actually that is a more equitable approach to people in this scenario.

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To me, that just makes a lot more sense.

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I know we talked about a red flag that it might just come up suddenly.

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It usually doesn't come up that suddenly.

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The National Weather Service is usually putting out 72 hours plus.

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They started an advisory level before they get to a red flag warning.

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So there's typically plenty of time and notification to our people to know.

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Now I know we also talked last time about if people have gone out of town and I think

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we discussed that those are the scenarios where when you prepare your house leaving for

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vacation, that's one of those checklist items.

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If you know you're going to be gone and there's a potential for a fire, make sure your vehicles

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are off the street or relocated somewhere else that's in the safe area.

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I think that's just something that has to become a part of our plan.

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I do think the communication is definitely something to be looked at.

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My understanding is that's a topic that's in the eating after action that the city consultants

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are looking at, the constant associates, they're going to review those, and that does have

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to be addressed a little more clearly.

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I think that's definitely a key there.

451
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But overall, I think the plan has written, has been, is very well aligned.

452
00:38:28,190 --> 00:38:32,310
It's very well outlined, so people would understand what to do.

453
00:38:32,690 --> 00:38:37,290
I think we can make it so we impact the least amount of residents if we adopt it as is.

454
00:38:38,510 --> 00:38:44,590
And that's my current stand, but I'd love to hear other people's points so we can have a discussion.

455
00:38:44,930 --> 00:38:45,330
Thank you.

456
00:38:49,590 --> 00:38:52,590
Okay, thank you, that was excellent.

457
00:38:53,850 --> 00:38:54,710
Commissioner Olson.

458
00:38:56,230 --> 00:39:01,490
Yeah, a lot of work has gone into this and I appreciate the work that's gone into it because it's really

459
00:39:01,490 --> 00:39:03,990
the big situation.

460
00:39:05,150 --> 00:39:10,250
I guess I'm leaning on the fact that there's a lot of answered questions.

461
00:39:13,310 --> 00:39:15,470
What's the penalty going to be?

462
00:39:15,990 --> 00:39:17,510
Well, I guess number one is the notification.

463
00:39:17,930 --> 00:39:20,930
How are we going to notify everybody that there's a rightful?

464
00:39:21,010 --> 00:39:23,810
I wouldn't even know there's a red flag, unless I was on this commission.

465
00:39:25,150 --> 00:39:29,330
And I'm told there's what, 15 a year on average.

466
00:39:29,330 --> 00:39:32,410
and I wouldn't even know that there is a red flag.

467
00:39:32,650 --> 00:39:35,650
So maybe I've got my head in the sand or whatever,

468
00:39:35,790 --> 00:39:37,390
but I don't know how we would be notified.

469
00:39:38,530 --> 00:39:41,850
And then what's the penalty going to be for having a,

470
00:39:43,310 --> 00:39:46,830
if somebody has their car on the street

471
00:39:47,590 --> 00:39:50,230
and it's not moved, and then are there going to be

472
00:39:50,230 --> 00:39:54,330
a lot of sheriff's spending their time removing the cars

473
00:39:54,330 --> 00:39:56,710
during these red flag times?

474
00:39:56,710 --> 00:40:00,770
and then there is a big fire, how's that all going to work?

475
00:40:02,810 --> 00:40:07,930
And I just, I go back to the fact that I, 15 seems like a big ask for the whole, for

476
00:40:07,930 --> 00:40:08,470
the community.

477
00:40:08,750 --> 00:40:15,950
It just seems like one of these things that are rights as residents are being taken away.

478
00:40:16,250 --> 00:40:21,490
And I know it's a very dangerous thing, but 15 a year just seems to be a big ask to me.

479
00:40:23,730 --> 00:40:31,630
So those would be, and then we could go to these other fires, is it the access that's been

480
00:40:31,630 --> 00:40:37,010
the problem or is it the water that's the problem, because you hear of in the palisades there

481
00:40:37,010 --> 00:40:41,330
wasn't enough water I eat in canyon and there's electrical problems there, was it the access

482
00:40:41,330 --> 00:40:48,470
of having cars in the street where the fire engines couldn't maneuver around them or is it some

483
00:40:48,470 --> 00:40:56,910
some of both. So I, I'm hesitant to vote for the plans that are written as they are

484
00:40:56,910 --> 00:40:57,290
right now.

485
00:40:59,740 --> 00:41:08,340
Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. We will, I'll, I'll, I'll say mine for last,

486
00:41:08,540 --> 00:41:17,200
I guess, but go ahead, Commissioner. Okay. Mark. So, you know, this required by the

487
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:24,220
And I believe our firefighters have put their lives on the line for 365 days a year.

488
00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:29,560
And to ask for 15 days for Red Flag, it's not a big deal.

489
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:41,920
Because as Arbor put it, he said, we sent users on the city website for all the citizens

490
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,400
in Lakhinyada regarding the Red Flag.

491
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,900
So here we eliminate that communication with the people.

492
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:56,880
Now, for parking in the street, as Commissioner Clinton said,

493
00:41:57,240 --> 00:42:02,280
I drove yesterday on Saturday in the street which is narrow street

494
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,780
to see how many people parked.

495
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,360
How much driveway emptied because people don't want to park

496
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,880
in the narrow driveway.

497
00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:16,860
So, I don't see a problem, you know, if we let the people not to park in the street,

498
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:23,440
but in new driveway, and you know, work with your neighbor, with your next street, you

499
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,340
know, ask him if this is okay to park in there.

500
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,240
It's only 15 days a year.

501
00:42:28,700 --> 00:42:29,840
I don't think it's a big deal.

502
00:42:32,230 --> 00:42:33,370
It's my problem, you know.

503
00:42:36,180 --> 00:42:37,540
And Commissioner Applegate?

504
00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:45,340
Well, I believe that we should apply this to all residents of Locke and Yada.

505
00:42:45,500 --> 00:42:47,240
You all have to move your car.

506
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:56,940
I think it's too confusing to say, okay, this blocks have to move on this day and park over there.

507
00:42:57,220 --> 00:42:59,920
I think it's too confusing for people.

508
00:43:00,540 --> 00:43:05,260
Also, if there's a big wind come up in the middle of the night,

509
00:43:05,260 --> 00:43:14,400
And you have to, and you want to, the cost of having somebody staff available all hours

510
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:21,500
of the day and night to contact people that now it's going to be a red flag day.

511
00:43:25,540 --> 00:43:30,440
Personally, we'd consider moving all cars because I think it's a big safety issue.

512
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:36,040
And I think it might even cost some resentment from my clients, my clients.

513
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:42,280
Neighbors, if you're parking on their street, they don't like it, they think convenient.

514
00:43:42,660 --> 00:43:44,640
I know I live on a small call this second.

515
00:43:45,660 --> 00:43:52,260
And if one of our neighbors has a little party or they have a couple cleaning crews coming,

516
00:43:52,780 --> 00:43:57,960
made service or gardeners and they're parking in front of everybody's house,

517
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:04,780
Some of my neighbors don't like it, and I know particularly one of our neighbors makes

518
00:44:04,780 --> 00:44:11,340
it a point to put something on people's windshields, and with a little note, not to park there

519
00:44:11,340 --> 00:44:17,240
again, and I would vote to have all cars removed.

520
00:44:18,980 --> 00:44:29,000
Okay. Great. Those are all great perspectives. So it's

521
00:44:31,970 --> 00:44:33,710
true, a lot of effort and time went

522
00:44:33,710 --> 00:44:43,030
into this plan. To me, on the face of it, it looks a little with all these different

523
00:44:43,030 --> 00:44:51,930
colors of crayons and a little convoluted in terms of the complication. I know we talked

524
00:44:51,930 --> 00:44:58,930
last time about our different backgrounds and regarding...

525
00:45:02,980 --> 00:45:09,880
Regarding what you've mentioned about a little bit of the resentment, so I applaud you for

526
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:16,480
going around to the city and seeing the driveways, because I did the same thing on multiple

527
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:22,460
days, and I found exactly what you discovered, which was there are driveways available for

528
00:45:22,460 --> 00:45:31,020
the most part. And I also did it at night to see how many cars were no kid in park on

529
00:45:31,020 --> 00:45:36,840
on the street and there are very, very few cars that park on the street overnight.

530
00:45:36,980 --> 00:45:42,260
And that's a good thing, separate from here, we've talked about the importance of that

531
00:45:42,260 --> 00:45:48,040
to reduce crime, hit crimes with a broken windows and all that, which is a separate issue.

532
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:52,440
But the bottom line is when it comes towards safety and protecting ourselves, people do

533
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,540
have driveways to park in their residents.

534
00:45:56,540 --> 00:46:03,280
So I found that to be very encouraging as I considered some of the discussion that we've had

535
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:11,440
over the last couple months regarding this red flag. As far as identifying certain streets

536
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:18,400
that are going to shoulder the burden for the entire community to be kept safe, I mean we're all

537
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:25,800
vested in the safety of our community equally. We all will lose houses, it's not going to just go

538
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,220
up one street or down another street, it's going to be the whole community.

539
00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:35,160
And I heard the chief at our joint commission say that, you know, the golden scenario would

540
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,680
be all the cars off the street so they'd have access.

541
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:45,280
To me, I'd be inclined to go with the blanket of all the cars off the street.

542
00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:52,000
From the background I have in safety, I know that the more complicated we make plans despite

543
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:59,920
our best efforts, the more difficult it becomes to implement. And so my position would

544
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:07,320
be to keep it simple, silly, and have this red flag honor that with the current communication

545
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,540
channels that we have. And they can blossom that out and figure out how they want to do

546
00:47:11,540 --> 00:47:16,520
some better communication, but I have confidence as it currently stands that we would be well

547
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:25,540
aware of the red flag threat for our community as well just knowing that you live in this community that that fire is an imminent threat.

548
00:47:27,340 --> 00:47:45,780
Regarding the the collateral issues that may present themselves when you have certain streets that are that are red flag and others that are not with the congestion of the cars that may want to park on other streets.

549
00:47:45,780 --> 00:47:50,600
I see that as problematic if we don't have a blanket and I see that it's not equitable

550
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:57,520
For the for all of the residents to have the same buy-in and shouldering that responsibility

551
00:47:58,700 --> 00:48:03,740
For the good of the community and for the good of the town to get to their neighbors and their streets over

552
00:48:04,580 --> 00:48:05,380
as well

553
00:48:05,860 --> 00:48:07,380
What I did was

554
00:48:08,060 --> 00:48:14,920
other than just driving around I did talk to a number of a large number actually of residents in all different

555
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:20,700
organizations from all different political persuasions and perspectives.

556
00:48:21,540 --> 00:48:28,700
And I would say that most everybody was supportive and invested in keeping our community safe

557
00:48:28,940 --> 00:48:34,880
and taking the best possible guidance from our first responders, our chief.

558
00:48:35,700 --> 00:48:43,180
And would be absolutely able to honor a red flag for 12 to 15 days depending on the circumstances

559
00:48:43,180 --> 00:48:47,420
chances to park all of the cars in their driveways.

560
00:48:49,300 --> 00:48:52,740
You know, I'll make a side comment here about

561
00:48:52,740 --> 00:48:57,360
if you start dividing streets, halves and have knots,

562
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:02,540
already they're being hit by the fact that they're

563
00:49:02,540 --> 00:49:06,400
shouldering a burden for just their street and the other street

564
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,760
over is not. Now we're going to have to add on top of that

565
00:49:10,980 --> 00:49:13,940
the fact that they're going to have ugly signs on their street too.

566
00:49:14,220 --> 00:49:15,340
It's all over the place, right?

567
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,840
Yeah, I think that would affect the property values.

568
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,420
It does affect the property values.

569
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:25,240
I mean, that's my, that's what I believe it makes the street uglier.

570
00:49:25,580 --> 00:49:29,020
And in Lock and Yacht, it's invested in the minimal signage as well as we just heard

571
00:49:29,020 --> 00:49:34,220
a resident discuss the implication of cost associated with this.

572
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:39,520
And I think we recall at our joint meeting, just for the signs alone, each sign was

573
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:48,500
$500. $500 for that to make your street ugly, to make your street defaced, and you go

574
00:49:48,500 --> 00:49:53,660
by the way you get a shoulder of burden to, and we may think it's not a big deal because

575
00:49:53,660 --> 00:50:00,240
it's not my street, but that wears on people after a while, and it starts dividing people.

576
00:50:01,380 --> 00:50:09,400
And as well, it feels like somebody else has the responsibility to keep their, our communities

577
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:16,740
be safe rather than a vested group of people that are aligned with all keeping our community

578
00:50:16,740 --> 00:50:19,240
safe together collectively, shouldering the burden equally.

579
00:50:19,580 --> 00:50:28,540
So, another thing I did because it's another valid concern about the teachers regarding

580
00:50:28,540 --> 00:50:29,200
the schools.

581
00:50:29,500 --> 00:50:35,760
I actually spoke with the school board, and we were assured that what plan that we came

582
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:41,600
came up with, including the everything plan, which was keeping it simple, everybody's

583
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,860
off the street during red flags, they would be able to accommodate that, all the schools.

584
00:50:46,540 --> 00:50:53,000
They said, hey, if that's what is necessary, they assured with the smile that the teachers

585
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,260
would be able to be accommodated and the staff would be accommodated.

586
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:02,800
Throw that in, I don't even know, I'm not on the school board, but I don't know if during

587
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,580
In red flag days, we have a different school schedule.

588
00:51:05,720 --> 00:51:09,680
That's a separate discussion for someone else if the teachers would even be present.

589
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:15,760
But that was accounted for, and I know that was an issue that was brought up both by one

590
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,680
of our residents as well as, I think, Commissioner Pinkham.

591
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:25,800
So I did address those as I deliberated in my mind about what might be the most equitable

592
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:26,940
plan going forward.

593
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:40,040
You know, I do have sympathy or empathy for those that are going to have some challenges,

594
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:45,200
maybe with an extra car or something, but when we talk about things like rights being

595
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:50,160
taken away, I get that, but our whole town could go away.

596
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:57,320
And then we have a different set of circumstances that we're dealing with for a fairly small

597
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:03,280
price that I see for 12 to 15 days a year to just make it simple off the street. Red flag,

598
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:10,180
the communication element would also be mitigated if we had a full red flag for all the city,

599
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:16,260
be it not signs, but you could have a red flag over city hall. You could have the red flag at

600
00:52:16,260 --> 00:52:22,260
Memorial Park. You go into any kind of campground and it says fire danger warning signs that are up.

601
00:52:22,260 --> 00:52:27,340
I mean, some of these things are literally like scout projects.

602
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:34,040
They can be done very cost effectively and it would build upon the awareness that we

603
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,340
all have in the shared interest in keeping our accounts safe.

604
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:44,540
So my position, keep it simple, great plan, let's blossom it, let's make it equitable, everybody

605
00:52:44,540 --> 00:52:48,140
off the street during the red flag days into story.

606
00:52:48,780 --> 00:52:56,980
Solves some of the communication issues, solves the resentment, increases residential awareness, buy-in, and

607
00:52:57,900 --> 00:53:00,880
allows us to all have a vested interest in building our burden.

608
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:01,820
I have a question.

609
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:07,140
When we had to evacuate during the fires in El Tadina, it was like five in the morning.

610
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:12,900
My phone starts ringing and I greet it, and it says evacuation, blah, blah, blah.

611
00:53:12,900 --> 00:53:22,820
So, you know, you throw some stuff in your go bag and we're loading up our car and I can see four of my neighbors because I live on a small street.

612
00:53:23,620 --> 00:53:26,820
I'll get in their cars, getting ready to evacuate.

613
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:35,580
And I thought, this is a great system where the phone tells everybody in the city, hey, it's time to, there's an emergency.

614
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:43,280
consider this, you have to move your car onto your driveway or drive it someplace else,

615
00:53:43,500 --> 00:53:50,890
the supermarket parking lot, something. Also, I'm not going to last my train, I thought

616
00:53:50,890 --> 00:53:57,590
there for a minute, but does the city have everybody's phone number where they can say tomorrow

617
00:53:57,590 --> 00:54:02,530
might be a red flag day, so you can sound like a pre warning because you've seen the news

618
00:54:02,530 --> 00:54:07,210
and you know what they're talking about, I know one of my neighbors doesn't watch the

619
00:54:07,210 --> 00:54:14,910
news at all because when he saw people packing up and he gets up super early to walk his

620
00:54:14,910 --> 00:54:20,830
dog, he was like, what's going on? And I told him, well, you know, our phones went off.

621
00:54:21,270 --> 00:54:26,710
Are you registered? And he said, I don't know. Is there a way of knowing true phones are registered

622
00:54:26,710 --> 00:54:28,310
that you can communicate with?

623
00:54:28,310 --> 00:54:30,070
Are you talking about the genesis system?

624
00:54:30,710 --> 00:54:30,910
Yes.

625
00:54:31,230 --> 00:54:33,990
Yeah, there is a system to get registered for that.

626
00:54:34,670 --> 00:54:36,890
But you have to have a phone in order to do that.

627
00:54:37,170 --> 00:54:40,090
So to clarify, there are multiple notification systems.

628
00:54:40,110 --> 00:54:41,550
I'm sorry. Can you speak louder please?

629
00:54:41,730 --> 00:54:50,210
There are notification systems that you're referring to that are very specific and have very specific criteria in terms of in actual emergency in terms of evacuation.

630
00:54:51,090 --> 00:54:57,230
The city is exploring other text communication options that residents will be able to sign up and get alerts such as that.

631
00:54:57,230 --> 00:55:01,910
But it's still in development so I couldn't speak anymore to there are options out there

632
00:55:03,150 --> 00:55:04,430
Similar to that

633
00:55:05,110 --> 00:55:13,330
You know, and I'd also mention this too. I mean it no matter how well you think your communication as there's always going to be someone

634
00:55:13,330 --> 00:55:19,250
That's left out or left behind and that's a responsibility of obviously themselves first to be informed

635
00:55:19,790 --> 00:55:26,630
But as well when you have something that's relatively simple with a sign or a flag over the park

636
00:55:27,230 --> 00:55:32,310
Even if they just drove by they would notice that perhaps whereas if you had just individual streets

637
00:55:32,310 --> 00:55:36,370
They may not even cross those streets and not even realize it's a red flag situation, right?

638
00:55:36,850 --> 00:55:39,990
So they may drive home and notice oh my gosh

639
00:55:39,990 --> 00:55:42,950
There's no cars on the street whatsoever. I wonder if something's different

640
00:55:43,550 --> 00:55:45,670
That might be a way to

641
00:55:46,390 --> 00:55:52,710
Have them blossom their own awareness and preparedness for this with the system that don't leave some houses though

642
00:55:52,710 --> 00:55:55,230
Sure, they don't see that at all. Yep

643
00:55:57,230 --> 00:55:59,810
a red flag and every answer of the city would have

644
00:55:59,810 --> 00:56:00,970
welcome to a look in the other.

645
00:56:02,150 --> 00:56:02,390
Yep.

646
00:56:03,130 --> 00:56:05,170
That would be a whole lot cheaper than thing.

647
00:56:05,470 --> 00:56:10,750
And I think, let me start again on the right.

648
00:56:10,990 --> 00:56:13,370
So I know you're over there with some comments.

649
00:56:14,690 --> 00:56:15,170
Please.

650
00:56:16,590 --> 00:56:20,690
Sure, I think we're getting to at least funneling in

651
00:56:20,690 --> 00:56:21,950
on agreement on a few things.

652
00:56:22,450 --> 00:56:24,870
I don't think anybody is in favor of not having a program.

653
00:56:24,870 --> 00:56:27,250
I think it sounds like we're all in favor of a program.

654
00:56:27,690 --> 00:56:30,330
It's just what iteration of that and how does that look?

655
00:56:32,550 --> 00:56:34,770
The question on how do you know about a red flag?

656
00:56:35,130 --> 00:56:37,750
That's one of the hardest ones to cross.

657
00:56:38,330 --> 00:56:41,810
I mean, if you're not paying attention to the news

658
00:56:41,810 --> 00:56:44,110
in an A format and don't see the notifications

659
00:56:44,110 --> 00:56:47,710
that start 72 hours early, and I think somebody

660
00:56:47,710 --> 00:56:50,270
mentioned that they're just not sure how to see those.

661
00:56:50,510 --> 00:56:53,390
Well, we have to have some interaction,

662
00:56:53,390 --> 00:57:18,410
or we just won't know, encouraging people to sign up with the City's City Alert LCF system with the county system so they can get those alerts if they don't because I know the county system, you can specifically address and sign up for the weather alerts as well as evacuation and other types of alerts so you can narrow those down, I think we have to do a huge public education campaign there to help spread that information.

663
00:57:18,410 --> 00:57:23,070
But very important point here for this particular program

664
00:57:23,070 --> 00:57:31,370
I can almost guarantee you that alert L.A. County will not be one of your vehicles to get the word out

665
00:57:31,370 --> 00:57:35,070
That is for evacuations. It is not

666
00:57:35,650 --> 00:57:42,770
They're they're not good the county office of emergency management. It's not going to use that system to alert the residents of

667
00:57:42,770 --> 00:57:44,870
Locking out a Flint Ridge that we're in a red flag

668
00:57:45,410 --> 00:57:47,290
weather conditions and

669
00:57:47,290 --> 00:57:50,810
correct I just want to add on to that statement in terms of that's what I was

670
00:57:50,810 --> 00:57:53,970
referencing that a lot of those are very specific in terms of it's an

671
00:57:53,970 --> 00:57:57,490
emergency you need to evacuate however the city is looking into other very

672
00:57:57,490 --> 00:58:01,610
similar options where we would be doing those type of notifications and that is

673
00:58:01,610 --> 00:58:05,690
in process of developing so it'd be very very similar and we would do a huge

674
00:58:05,690 --> 00:58:09,370
public outreach campaigns that people are aware of that but it would be structured

675
00:58:09,370 --> 00:58:13,710
similar and you'd see very similar but again it'd be more sign-up based public

676
00:58:13,710 --> 00:58:16,270
education from the city specifically.

677
00:58:17,390 --> 00:58:22,890
So as we look at, if I can keep going, the vehicle concerns.

678
00:58:23,870 --> 00:58:26,810
I still think the as is plan is better.

679
00:58:27,230 --> 00:58:31,410
I appreciate the interest of trying to do city wide.

680
00:58:32,050 --> 00:58:37,910
I just see that I think we actually, all those extra cars, where are you actually going

681
00:58:37,910 --> 00:58:38,410
to move them?

682
00:58:38,970 --> 00:58:40,250
And then how do you operate?

683
00:58:40,250 --> 00:58:43,730
You're still going to have daily life operating during red flag.

684
00:58:44,230 --> 00:58:47,870
You're still going to have those teachers, and that's great if the school district wants to accommodate them.

685
00:58:48,350 --> 00:58:50,590
But what about all the other transient workers that are coming through?

686
00:58:51,270 --> 00:58:55,550
Your deliveries, the cleaners at houses, gardeners, construction.

687
00:58:56,390 --> 00:58:59,510
They're still wanting to get projects done and move things along, and

688
00:58:59,510 --> 00:59:05,430
still are we going to terminate all those that work that happens every day, even if a red flag is going on.

689
00:59:05,930 --> 00:59:10,290
I think they should have the opportunity to park on one of those adjacent streets, so

690
00:59:10,290 --> 00:59:13,130
they can still go and service and provide what they need to do.

691
00:59:13,530 --> 00:59:17,950
I don't think that I think that citywide one overlooks a lot of those different components.

692
00:59:18,430 --> 00:59:19,650
So I think that's the concern.

693
00:59:20,750 --> 00:59:23,470
We don't have city halls not going to be staff 24-7.

694
00:59:23,610 --> 00:59:24,530
I don't think that's a concern.

695
00:59:24,970 --> 00:59:27,130
I know Commissioner Applegate said they'd have to be here.

696
00:59:27,670 --> 00:59:29,190
We know 72 hours ahead of time.

697
00:59:29,210 --> 00:59:31,110
They're not going to have to sit here and wait to tell us.

698
00:59:31,110 --> 00:59:37,070
If there's an actual emergency and the EOC is open, I would hope they'll be here and functioning.

699
00:59:37,990 --> 00:59:40,010
But that's the difference.

700
00:59:40,230 --> 00:59:41,710
That's after the emergency has actually happened.

701
00:59:41,850 --> 00:59:44,430
We're talking about the before it's actually taken place.

702
00:59:45,370 --> 00:59:50,370
As far as people not liking other people parking in front of their homes, that's where they

703
00:59:50,370 --> 00:59:51,870
get to help share part of the burden.

704
00:59:53,130 --> 00:59:58,230
That's where they get to help participate and be supportive and be equitable by saying, yes,

705
00:59:58,230 --> 00:59:59,750
I know my neighbors are inconvenient.

706
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:25,420
There's a lot of unions right now because their extra cars don't fit there so they're going to be in front of my house. And instead of trying to park it, two cities away and uber back because there's no other option. Because honestly, what else are you going to do with those other vehicles? If you're having a red flag that's going to impact our entire city, it's obviously going to impact other cities, you're just going to relocate them into La Crescenta or Glendale or Pasadena. It doesn't seem super feasible.

707
01:00:25,420 --> 01:00:33,280
So I'm trying to be realistic in the approach here where we find a happy medium and we look at where do we do that?

708
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:39,140
So I think adjacent streets that are not impacted my streets impacted, you know my street on the map

709
01:00:39,140 --> 01:00:40,860
I'm not there. No car is going to be on the street

710
01:00:40,860 --> 01:00:44,020
So we would have to find other ways other places to park

711
01:00:44,900 --> 01:00:49,780
And I'm not saying that so either way either one of these plans my my streets impacted

712
01:00:49,780 --> 01:00:54,280
But I think we find realistic ways so we can still allow people to move their vehicles other places

713
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:59,260
And all this other work that's trying to still take place is still able to function.

714
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:06,960
I think that's the key here is we're not trying to prioritize comfort over safety.

715
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,800
So that's my word on that part.

716
01:01:13,210 --> 01:01:13,790
Thank you.

717
01:01:14,310 --> 01:01:24,910
Mr. Chair, I believe we have 5% to 10% from the population in Lagunaera Park in the street.

718
01:01:26,270 --> 01:01:36,410
How about we ask these people to ask for a permit from the city and pay fees and we

719
01:01:36,410 --> 01:01:41,930
get all the information from these people parking in the street and we put them in the

720
01:01:41,930 --> 01:01:48,530
data and when we need to have that flag there we can show them some information so they

721
01:01:48,530 --> 01:01:49,370
know about it.

722
01:01:52,700 --> 01:02:01,040
And for the trucks, the workers, the landscape. I see a lot of trucks coming in the station.

723
01:02:02,140 --> 01:02:07,260
They have a permit from the city of Pasadena so they can park them streets once they're working,

724
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:12,580
so we can implement this too. Yeah, now I don't think it would probably impact trans-eanor workers

725
01:02:12,580 --> 01:02:18,060
like deliveries or landscape folks because they're only there for a short amount of time and they

726
01:02:18,060 --> 01:02:20,220
They know if something's coming, they're going to probably move quickly.

727
01:02:21,940 --> 01:02:25,040
That wouldn't need to be delineated in the plan though I don't think that's called out.

728
01:02:25,620 --> 01:02:28,900
Yeah, there could be some accommodation there.

729
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:29,640
I agree.

730
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:37,880
This is a residential thing, and you bring up a good point, Commissioner Kamar, if someone

731
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:41,820
is going to be parked on the streets, then they have to, they could have a fairly easy

732
01:02:41,820 --> 01:02:45,760
system to immediately be identified with the phone or something.

733
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,240
on that, even if it was a gardener, right, you could have it.

734
01:02:48,340 --> 01:02:51,220
This is the red, hey, this is a red flag, a street.

735
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,800
So no one's parking here, someone's mowing the lawn.

736
01:02:54,800 --> 01:03:01,080
That's, I think, that's relatively easily navigated on that.

737
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:07,100
The PR campaign, I agree, you know, I feel confident actually

738
01:03:07,100 --> 01:03:10,080
in our city to be able to blossom out the message.

739
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,740
Yes, again, we'll underscore that it won't be everybody.

740
01:03:13,740 --> 01:03:18,920
that will always be reached but I think it's a lot easier to reach people when

741
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:23,320
it's the whole city than it is when you have certain streets that they're

742
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:31,320
even less likely to drive on. I would say that we are in agreement that a plan

743
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:37,240
needs to move forward and I'm still of the position that it should be the whole

744
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:45,840
community. I think that there is opportunities here to look at how you can

745
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:51,900
institute some mitigations for it. Again, I think it's very, very few. In the

746
01:03:51,900 --> 01:03:56,060
onus, I think goes more on the resident than it does on the city to provide

747
01:03:56,060 --> 01:04:02,740
something for somebody when they have a home that's in a area that's in fire risk.

748
01:04:03,580 --> 01:04:08,020
and so I think that that's not a bad thing to get people on that footing.

749
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:30,880
I think it's doable and I think they can score that corner of confidence in our residents and our neighbors to be able to do that, put on their big boys shoes or figure out a way to help be a part of the solution rather than just saying you can park in front of my street while you have to move your car.

750
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:41,780
So that's my that's my thought on that did you let go again to Commissioner Olson there I you have a follow-up

751
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,520
Anything else to add

752
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:53,640
Either one of you can make a motion well at this point. I don't know that we have my my my motion would be

753
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:59,570
To keep it simple make it the whole city

754
01:04:59,570 --> 01:05:11,470
We recommend to blossom an excellent PR campaign and for those red flag days for everybody.

755
01:05:11,950 --> 01:05:13,390
So we're looking at number two.

756
01:05:14,210 --> 01:05:18,370
Number two is, I would

757
01:05:25,660 --> 01:05:31,780
recommend number two, which is citywide, everybody buys in less

758
01:05:31,780 --> 01:05:35,320
defacing of the city with the signs, less cost, less infrastructure.

759
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:39,780
here, blossom the public, the PR campaign, and help a neighbor.

760
01:05:40,860 --> 01:05:42,000
Do we have a second?

761
01:05:42,460 --> 01:05:42,800
Second.

762
01:05:43,780 --> 01:05:45,220
Okay, we have a second.

763
01:05:45,620 --> 01:05:46,060
Second.

764
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:46,680
Okay.

765
01:05:48,500 --> 01:05:52,620
All in favor of option two, which is citywide.

766
01:05:53,740 --> 01:05:53,920
Aye.

767
01:05:55,020 --> 01:05:55,240
Aye.

768
01:05:57,870 --> 01:05:57,910
Aye.

769
01:05:57,910 --> 01:05:58,010
Aye.

770
01:05:58,310 --> 01:05:58,490
Aye.

771
01:05:59,050 --> 01:05:59,250
Okay.

772
01:05:59,730 --> 01:06:02,810
We have three of five, so the motion passes.

773
01:06:02,810 --> 01:06:11,190
As such, we will recommend option two to the city council for the citywide parking ban during red flag days.

774
01:06:11,930 --> 01:06:17,130
And they will surely come up with details on how that can best be implemented.

775
01:06:17,830 --> 01:06:20,110
Okay, motion passes there.

776
01:06:27,290 --> 01:06:28,530
Get back to my agenda.

777
01:06:39,100 --> 01:06:40,440
Comments from the commissioners.

778
01:06:42,780 --> 01:06:44,480
I'll start this time on the left.

779
01:06:45,380 --> 01:06:46,200
Commissioner Alpogate.

780
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:47,600
No comments.

781
01:06:49,950 --> 01:06:50,270
Go ahead.

782
01:06:50,350 --> 01:06:51,230
They can have a job.

783
01:06:51,690 --> 01:06:52,730
Nice to meet you.

784
01:06:54,260 --> 01:06:54,740
Thank you.

785
01:06:57,140 --> 01:06:57,860
Commissioner Olson.

786
01:06:59,120 --> 01:06:59,480
Yeah.

787
01:06:59,660 --> 01:07:02,400
Back to the homeless champion ordinance.

788
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:04,220
When can we get that on the agenda?

789
01:07:05,140 --> 01:07:06,160
And then the drones, too.

790
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,840
We're going to do something about the drones and the safety of that.

791
01:07:09,940 --> 01:07:10,300
Correct.

792
01:07:10,460 --> 01:07:13,580
So I can give you a brief update about kind of bull.

793
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:14,660
Can you speak up just a bit?

794
01:07:14,740 --> 01:07:15,100
I'm having a good one.

795
01:07:15,100 --> 01:07:15,960
Yeah, I can't hear you.

796
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,100
So for the drone ordinance,

797
01:07:18,100 --> 01:07:22,700
We are estimated, or questions regarding drone enforcement.

798
01:07:23,300 --> 01:07:29,740
We will be bringing that to the next agenda with a report for you to review and discuss.

799
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:38,180
In terms of the homelessness ordinance, I don't currently have any update staff is currently

800
01:07:38,180 --> 01:07:43,060
in the works on doing that, so next meeting I should be able to give you some sort of brief

801
01:07:43,060 --> 01:07:45,000
update but it will not be a staff report yet.

802
01:07:46,740 --> 01:07:47,520
Thank you.

803
01:07:47,820 --> 01:07:53,000
Does anyone know if the young, the woman they were speaking about over on the,

804
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:58,700
was there, and was it crowned, as she was there all the time on the corner?

805
01:08:00,140 --> 01:08:02,700
Oh, the woman that was, that's, she's still there.

806
01:08:02,940 --> 01:08:04,740
Are you talking about by the UPS store?

807
01:08:05,620 --> 01:08:10,640
No, this is over by crowned, on the corner, outside.

808
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,340
I'm not familiar with her.

809
01:08:13,500 --> 01:08:20,900
I am familiar with a person that I believe has a home, but chooses to sleep on the sidewalk

810
01:08:20,900 --> 01:08:22,120
by the UPS store.

811
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,020
Is that across from the red roundtable?

812
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:27,600
Is she an African American?

813
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:29,720
No, not that it appeared to be.

814
01:08:29,940 --> 01:08:32,480
No, the woman I'm talking about is African American.

815
01:08:33,980 --> 01:08:36,560
What's the observation that you had?

816
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:54,860
Well, I saw her dragging like not a sharpening part thing, but like a wagon type thing, and she was kind of wandering around, sitting there on the corner, and I drove by, and then the next day I saw her because I was just wondering.

817
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:05,560
But I know who you're talking about in front of the UPS store. She has a daughter. I think I spoke to her daughter once.

818
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:10,560
She says she does have a home but she chooses to be here.

819
01:09:12,870 --> 01:09:13,130
Okay,

820
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:20,840
so that was a robust discussion.

821
01:09:22,950 --> 01:09:39,260
I'm sure the City Council will win and it's just a recommendation that we have made tonight and they will go forward with their perspective on it, so I want to thank everybody for that honest discussion.

822
01:09:39,260 --> 01:09:40,600
And this is how our government should work.

823
01:09:42,420 --> 01:09:46,740
It's not always perfect, and we don't always get exactly what we want.

824
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:52,980
And there's compromises, but I feel like we did a good job on that.

825
01:09:53,440 --> 01:09:57,880
And then, to yours about the agenda on the homelessness,

826
01:09:58,380 --> 01:10:02,200
that I didn't, I wasn't clear on what how that resolved just now.

827
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,500
What was the resolution to that?

828
01:10:05,700 --> 01:10:06,600
Is it going to go on the agenda?

829
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:15,060
There are no current updates for staff to bring anything to the agenda as soon as we do we will bring one forward first you guys does that satisfy what you're

830
01:10:15,060 --> 01:10:20,200
Yeah, I was written here was that

831
01:10:22,380 --> 01:10:27,160
Our bill is going to provide an update on the approved homeless

832
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:32,020
Camping ordinance and it will be a valid to the agenda for the next regular meeting

833
01:10:33,300 --> 01:10:34,680
so that was

834
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:40,640
because that was on the minutes of June 23rd, 2025.

835
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:45,880
And so we just like to have an idea

836
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:46,980
when that might be forthcoming.

837
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,260
Unfortunately, I do not have a date for you at this time.

838
01:10:51,620 --> 01:10:55,260
You know, Jeff, they brought it to the city council

839
01:10:56,120 --> 01:11:01,160
and they didn't agree on all this and this.

840
01:11:01,980 --> 01:11:08,480
So the postponing for some other meeting, I don't know if this happened or not, I was here

841
01:11:08,480 --> 01:11:09,060
at that meeting.

842
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:09,700
Okay.

843
01:11:09,900 --> 01:11:13,300
Yeah, I wanted to talk in a word, but they didn't come to a vote.

844
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:19,560
Because it's out here that everything's been taken care of, and that's what the minutes

845
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:19,780
are.

846
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:28,030
And there's an ordinance that will be added to the agenda for the next meeting.

847
01:11:28,030 --> 01:11:32,410
So we would like to just reaffirm that that one we would like that to be added

848
01:11:32,410 --> 01:11:36,850
Correct the ordinance has been a correct ordinance has been approved

849
01:11:36,850 --> 01:11:42,230
Okay, that was currently working internally on discussions and that we will be bringing forth in agenda

850
01:11:42,230 --> 01:11:45,470
I just don't know exactly what date that will be at this point because it's not ready

851
01:11:45,470 --> 01:11:50,290
Okay, and then I would like to also this is where we talked about adding things to the future agenda

852
01:11:52,590 --> 01:11:55,830
There's a gentleman that I brought it up at the previous meeting

853
01:11:55,830 --> 01:12:04,950
but he's got these very nice lights that are super inexpensive that he's willing to either make a donation or work with the city to have a donation.

854
01:12:06,170 --> 01:12:10,490
A program in place perhaps to purchase these lights and they're relatively inexpensive.

855
01:12:10,830 --> 01:12:16,010
I think I gave one a way to somebody, but it was a great idea.

856
01:12:16,010 --> 01:12:27,230
The observation was, what can we do as residents in our city to illuminate people that are walking on our streets at night?

857
01:12:27,270 --> 01:12:31,570
And I think it is definitely a concern that we see people without vests and they just don't have lights.

858
01:12:31,890 --> 01:12:41,430
So we thought maybe there could be a program where we could like the Wi-Fi camera program that we could add to the agenda to maybe discuss that.

859
01:12:41,430 --> 01:12:52,030
So, discuss an opportunity to work with the city to have walking lights provided with the current

860
01:12:52,030 --> 01:12:54,210
budget system that we have.

861
01:12:54,590 --> 01:12:59,190
So the current rebate program that we do have for, we have one for security camera.

862
01:12:59,870 --> 01:13:05,530
Individuals often purchase ones that do include motion sensor lights in that package.

863
01:13:05,790 --> 01:13:07,950
So that certainly is an option for residents.

864
01:13:08,590 --> 01:13:15,070
In terms of creating a new funding opportunity, we would need to do that during budget cycle.

865
01:13:15,390 --> 01:13:18,930
So at this time, it wouldn't be appropriate to bring forward an item, or

866
01:13:18,930 --> 01:13:21,670
could it be for budget time.

867
01:13:21,790 --> 01:13:25,150
So when that comes forward, I won't include that on the agenda as one of the potential options.

868
01:13:25,250 --> 01:13:28,250
Okay, and that individual actually was willing to make a donation.

869
01:13:28,710 --> 01:13:35,010
So I may, we'll hold off on that then, I guess at this point, I'll speak with him again further.

870
01:13:35,010 --> 01:13:39,010
but it's a super inexpensive and it wasn't a it wasn't a light for the motion

871
01:13:39,010 --> 01:13:42,950
detector it was actually something that goes like on your arm and shoe so it

872
01:13:42,950 --> 01:13:46,850
seemed like a good a good thing to hand out especially as our days are getting

873
01:13:46,850 --> 01:13:55,570
shorter. At the bicycle shops they so little yeah well you can put days around

874
01:13:55,570 --> 01:14:01,870
your arm and they flash on and off so you can really see somebody walking like

875
01:14:01,870 --> 01:14:04,130
this when you see the lights flash.

876
01:14:05,030 --> 01:14:07,870
So that was what he wanted to highlight is one of our residents.

877
01:14:08,730 --> 01:14:12,450
Anything else to add for agenda items for next time?

878
01:14:13,090 --> 01:14:15,930
Before we motion to adjourn?

879
01:14:16,010 --> 01:14:17,470
Oh, yeah, to give comments.

880
01:14:17,650 --> 01:14:20,510
OK, before we do that, go ahead.

881
01:14:21,310 --> 01:14:22,750
Not too many comments from me today.

882
01:14:22,750 --> 01:14:24,470
I believe you guys kind of touched on it.

883
01:14:25,190 --> 01:14:28,130
Next month, we do plan on bringing information

884
01:14:28,130 --> 01:14:37,130
regarding drone enforcement to you guys for your review other than that we did on the 16th have

885
01:14:37,130 --> 01:14:44,050
our community preparedness day we had lots of our we had part department law enforcement we had

886
01:14:44,050 --> 01:14:50,990
JPL join us for a service along with a lot of our utility districts we had insurance there

887
01:14:50,990 --> 01:14:57,010
CPA and it was a great turnout great event we've heard lots of great feedback so that was a great

888
01:14:57,010 --> 01:14:59,830
promotional, and this will be an annual event, so next.

889
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:14,220
Here we have ought to look forward to, but that's all from Zach Cummings. Thank you. Thank you very much. We have a motion to adjourn. Okay, second, second. Okay, meetings adjourned.

890
01:15:14,220 --> 01:15:14,500
Yeah.