[0:07] All right. Seven.
>> Hello.
[0:12] » 7:03 p.m. Uh, I will call. Yeah.
>> Call this meeting to order. This meeting
[0:20] of the Marboro Town Council.
Uh, town manager Anderson. You're
[0:27] settled. Could you please vote?
Mayor B here. Vice Mayor Bruce
[0:35] believe he's going to be late this
evening. Council
[0:38] » Frank
>> here.
[0:40] » Council member Berkeley
>> present.
[0:49] Attorney Ruff is not going to be in.
She's not going to be here tonight. And
[0:53] Chief Bur is also off tonight.
All right, we will stand
[1:04] also.
[1:21] All right, we'll do uh review of the
agenda. Uh we'll I'll read into the
[1:27] record the approval of the close session
meeting minutes from the previous two
[1:31] close sessions. Our business item, our
mix and mingle parking agreement, uh
[1:36] pocket park RP response and update
strategic plan RFP response and update
[1:41] demolition and debris removal of 5510.
uh compact tractor purchase staff's
[1:48] response to the unhoused community.
We'll do a general public comment. Um
[1:54] motion to go into close session
preliminary approval of next agenda. I
[1:57] have two uh adjustments I would like to
make if there aren't any objections. One
[2:02] of them um as it's become tradition, I
have a proclamation to read for this
[2:07] month. Uh so I'd like to do that before
I read the approval of the close session
[2:11] minutes. And then two, um, just to make
sure that we're clear [clears throat]
[2:15] that we're not that if we move into
close session, we won't be coming back
[2:19] into open session, I want to move the
preliminary approval of next meeting
[2:22] agenda before that motion. Uh, and then
make it clear that uh, if we do go into
[2:27] close session, that will be an
adjournment uh, from close session. We
[2:31] won't be coming back into session.
Any objections to those two changes? All
[2:36] right.
[2:40] So
July 2026 is disability pride month. Uh
[2:46] as such I have a proclamation to read
here. Whereas disability pride month is
[2:51] observed each July to commemorate the
enactment of the Americans with
[2:54] Disabilities Act ADA on July 26th, 1990.
Landmark civil rights legislation that
[3:00] affirms the rights of individuals with
disabilities and advances equal
[3:03] opportunity, accessibility, independent
living, and full participation in
[3:07] society. And whereas the town of Upper
Marbor recognizes that people with
[3:10] disabilities are integral members of our
community whose leadership, innovation,
[3:14] service, and lived experiences
strengthen our neighborhoods,
[3:16] businesses, schools, and civic
institutions. And whereas disability
[3:20] pride month celebrates disability as a
valued aspect of human diversity and
[3:24] encourages all people to embrace a
community where every individual is
[3:27] treated with dignity, respect, and the
opportunity to contribute their unique
[3:30] talents. And whereas the town of
Okamarbor is committed to fostering a
[3:33] welcoming and accessible community by
promoting equitable access to public
[3:37] spaces, programs, services, and civic
engagement, ensuring that all residents
[3:41] and visitors have the opportunity to
fully participate in community life. And
[3:45] whereas we celebrate disability pride
month, we reaffirm our shared
[3:49] responsibility to remove barriers,
challenge stereotypes, expand
[3:52] opportunities, and build a more
inclusive future where every person is
[3:55] empowered to thrive and reach their full
potential. Now therefore, I, Charles
[3:59] Colbert, mayor of the town of Upper
Marboro, do hereby proclaim the month of
[4:02] July 2026 as disability pride month in
the town of Upper Morboro and encourage
[4:07] all residents to recognize the
achievements and contributions of
[4:10] individuals with disabilities, celebrate
the richness of our diverse community,
[4:13] and join in creating a town where
accessibility, inclusion, and belonging
[4:17] are woven into every aspect of community
life.
[4:23] » Very much.
>> Thank you. We'll move on to
[4:27] the reading and approval of the close
session minutes.
[4:35] You all are getting a lot of story time
for me this evening.
[4:44] Close
[4:52] session summary from June 9th, 2026. Uh
at 7:45 p.m. Town Hall, uh the town
[4:59] council moved to go into close session
under annotated code 3-305B7
[5:05] to consult with council to obtain legal
advice. Those who move to go into close
[5:10] session, uh, the motion was made by
council member Lot, seconded by council
[5:13] member Urklay. Uh, all members present,
including myself, Vice Mayor Brooks, and
[5:19] Council Member Sarah Franklin, voted in
the affirmative. uh unanimous vote of
[5:23] elected officials. Those in attendance
were uh myself, Vice Mayor Derek Brooks,
[5:28] Council Member Sarah Franklin, Council
Member Joe Erkley, and Council Member
[5:31] Karen Lot, as well as town manager
Clayton Anderson, public works director
[5:34] Darnell Bond, police chief David Bur,
and town attorney Karen Ruff. Uh no
[5:38] votes were taken and the topics
discussed were anouar town to be
[5:44] renegotiated to a new agreement to be
entered into on the automatic renewal
[5:47] date of the current agreement. Uh the
meeting adjourned at 8:45 p.m.
[5:55] Okay. And then
[6:02] close session notes from June 30th,
2026. The time is 7:48 p.m. here at town
[6:07] hall. Uh the town council moved to go
into close session under annotated code
[6:13] 3-305B1D7.
[6:16] Uh
it's long.
[6:18] » It is long. Let's see where it is. To
discuss the appointment, employment,
[6:22] assignment, promotion, discipline,
demotion, compensation, removal,
[6:25] resignation, or performance evaluation
of appointees, employees or officials
[6:29] over whom this public body has
jurisdiction, any other personnel matter
[6:33] that affects one or more specific
individuals. And uh section four, to
[6:38] consider a matter that concerns the
proposal for a business or industrial
[6:41] organization to locate, expand, or
remain in the state.
[6:46] The motion was made by council member
Lach. It was seconded by Vice Mayor
[6:49] Brooks. Uh all members present including
myself, council member Franklin, and
[6:54] council member uh voted in the
affirmative. So unanimous vote of
[6:58] elected officials. Again, those in
attendance were myself, Vice Mayor
[7:01] Brooks, Council Member Franklin, Council
Member Urkeley, Council Member Watt,
[7:04] Town Manager Anderson, Town attorney
Ruff, uh and Legit Representative Matt
[7:10] Peters. No vote were taken. The topics
discussed were that legit presented and
[7:15] discussed with council professional
conduct governance of working
[7:17] relationships. Um after that discussion
that Peters left and the council
[7:22] discussed a business request regarding a
parking agreement. The meeting was
[7:26] adjourned at 9:50 p.m.
require a motion to approve there. A
[7:32] motion to approve the closed session
minutes from June 30th.
[7:36] » Second.
>> All right. That was motioned by council
[7:39] member, seconded by council member
Franklin. Town manager Anderson, if you
[7:43] could call the role.
>> Mayor,
[7:45] » I vice mayor.
[7:50] » Council member,
>> I
[8:00] » we will move on to business item 6A,
mixing parking agreement. Town manager
[8:05] Anderson.
>> All right.
[8:07] Good evening member audience. Um just a
bit of background on the parking
[8:13] agreement for with Mixle. Um they are a
business that wants to move to downtown
[8:19] upper Mboro. It's a part of their
development. Uh they need 20 off street
[8:24] parking spaces. Uh originally we thought
it was 39 but it was recalculated is
[8:29] down to 20 now. We do have 20 parking
spaces at the Church Street parking lot
[8:35] at 14525 Church Street. Um I spoke with
the uh owner Licon Engle and we
[8:44] negotiated the terms of of the agreement
to be a 10-year term which is required
[8:50] by Deepine. We're giving them 20 spaces
at a fee of $500 per month beginning in
[8:56] uh January of 2028.
Um
[9:01] after January 2028
uh the rental fee can increase up to 10%
[9:07] every year after that. Um after the 10
years there there will be an opportunity
[9:12] to renegotiate on the 5year 5year terms
after that. Just to put it in
[9:17] perspective with respect to revenue, uh,
from January 2025 to June of 2026,
[9:24] Church Street parking lot only generated
$568 in revenue over 8month period of
[9:29] time. So, the town isn't necessarily
losing any significant revenue there.
[9:38] » Okay. Are there any questions from
council members on the parking lease
[9:43] agreement?
a question for my comment. Um, I just
[9:49] realized that you said 10year with two
additional five years, but the term
[9:54] actually says that it ends on 2031. So,
it's only a fiveyear with two fiveear
[9:59] extensions, but it does say the period
is 10 years commencing in 2026 and
[10:04] ending in 2031. So, one of those needs
to be changed.
[10:07] » Yeah. 2036. 2080 should be 2036.
>> Okay. And also I in in reading in our
[10:14] paper I caught a typo in in one uh
look at parking lease premises and rent
[10:22] part four it says together a with the
right I think just a needs stricken
[10:35] Franklin
>> no comments
[10:39] do we have Vice Mayor Brooks
[10:47] Um, hearing no other
comments,
[10:52] do we have a motion to approve the mix
and mingle parking agreement with the
[10:56] changes noted by council member Urklay
to update the term to 2020 2036 and
[11:02] remove the errant aid in section one.
>> All right. Uh, council member Franklin
[11:10] moved. Do I have a second?
>> Second.
[11:13] » Okay.
>> Uh, we'll take public comment. If there
[11:18] are, uh, members of the public in the
audience that would like to speak,
[11:21] please come up to the podium. Uh,
provide your name and street.
[11:27] We'll give you an opportunity to speak
on this agenda item. If there are
[11:30] members online, please raise your hand
and we will go to you.
[11:40] Hearing none. Seeing none, uh, we'll
move on to the vote. Council or town
[11:44] manager Anderson, please call the role.
>> I,
[11:48] Council Member Brandon,
>> I.
[11:50] » Council member Bley.
>> Hi.
[11:52] » Council member.
>> Motion passes.
[11:56] All right, we will move on to Pocket
Park RFP response update. Town manager.
[12:04] So, what I wanted to do tonight is not
really get into the I guess the meat and
[12:08] potatoes of the RFPs and the responses,
but I just wanted to just give a quick
[12:14] overview of where we are there and then
um ask that we come back at the at the
[12:20] next meeting to actually discuss the
RFPs for the pocket park. Um the sort of
[12:27] services that we that we wanted was site
analysis and planning. Um, this is a
[12:32] very important part of our downtown. So,
I wanted to make sure, you know, we had
[12:37] we had talked about staff planning it
out, but I thought that it would be
[12:41] better to have a cons and actually do
that because this is a project that is
[12:47] going to affect downtown for many years
to come. So, um, I wanted a a
[12:52] professional to take a look at it, to
analyze it, um, to plan it, come up with
[12:57] some ideas that would benefit the
business community and the residents as
[13:03] well, and bring folks in into downtown.
Um, we also wanted, uh, you know, we we
[13:10] were sort of struggling with with SAG.
We be struggling what's the concept? Um,
[13:14] what are what are the designs going
going to be? And I think that it's a
[13:19] much easier and natural thing for a
consultant to come in and come up those
[13:23] things as well. Um the public engagement
part now that is something takes you
[13:30] know a lot of time and I think the town
has struggled a bit with public
[13:36] engagement and again I thought that a
professional consultant may have a fresh
[13:40] a fresh approach to it and really get
the businesses involved and the
[13:45] residents as as well. Um
they with respect to the con to the
[13:51] construction part um we would like them
to be able to provide us with resources
[13:58] so that we can choose
construction consultants that would be
[14:04] uh
economically feasible and at the same
[14:07] time uh dependable as well. So that's
just a basic overview of what the um we
[14:14] had in the RFP and what I think the
discussion should be um as we talk about
[14:20] this more um moving forward. But I do
think that the community engagement is
[14:26] extremely important.
[14:33] » So this discussion is the RFP in here is
that
[14:37] » No, you all you will all get it please.
>> Okay. I did I did attach them to the
[14:41] email, but they were they were bad
copies. The scanner, they just weren't
[14:45] good. So, um you'll have those after the
meeting. They're actually in the back
[14:48] right now.
>> So, uh again, this isn't not voting on
[14:53] um this topic tonight. This is just a
discussion looking at the project
[14:57] objectives, scope of service, and the
statements manager Anderson has made. Um
[15:03] I'll just start going down the down the
line here. Uh if we have any questions,
[15:07] I'll start with you know, you just you
just stopped in. Vice May. So, Council
[15:10] Member Franklin, do you have any
questions?
[15:12] » I guess my only question is since it
looked like we only got one or two per
[15:19] for the RFP is, is it possible for us to
like keep it open until for like maybe
[15:29] two weeks or two weeks close to the
meeting just to see if anything else
[15:34] comes in before the next meeting? cuz I
know it's nice to have three if we can.
[15:39] Um, that's my only comment.
>> Well, that was a thought I think Darnell
[15:43] and I had as well. We were looking there
was a debate whether or not we should
[15:47] extend it, right? Because we only had
the the two and uh it's not that these
[15:51] two are are bad, but we did we did want
to see what else was out there.
[15:58] » Just Yeah,
>> I don't have I don't I don't see an
[16:02] issue extending it. Um, so I mean that's
just I take advant
[16:12] » currently closes.
>> It's already
[16:15] » it's already closed.
>> Okay.
[16:17] » And you said, sorry, I apologize. How
many responses have we gotten so far?
[16:21] Just two.
>> Mhm.
[16:22] » Okay.
>> And one of them had two different
[16:24] proposals in there. So,
>> okay.
[16:27] » Do we have um someone So, we're
expecting whoever it is to come up with
[16:32] a design. Correct. come up with with a
design.
[16:35] » So why can't we ask both of them to come
up with a design
[16:39] that kind of fits our town?
>> Well, a part of the
[16:43] » that can be like a you can ask for a
mockup.
[16:46] » Yeah. Part of the selection process was
going to be an interview and the
[16:49] expectation would be that they would
have something which you presented at
[16:55] » the mockup is just not it's not
something final. It's just a video of
[16:59] what they can do.
>> Yeah. I think that's I think that's good
[17:03] to go with that and then if something
else comes in then hey it's added to the
[17:08] to the bowl but I don't think we should
wait until
[17:14] did you have any other comments or was
that
[17:15] » No, that was my comment. I don't think
we should wait. I just think that we
[17:19] should leave it um if someone else
presents something great. If not but we
[17:23] should definitely get a mockup from both
of these vendors to see what they can
[17:26] produce.
So I think part of the issue is that
[17:30] part one in the site analysis and
planning including at least two
[17:33] community engagement sessions was that
we were would be funding them to
[17:38] basically have meetings with the
community about what the community would
[17:42] like to see. And so it's more than just
them designing it because they'd be
[17:47] running that portion of it also. And
that and that may be why we got your
[17:51] response is that some groups may not
have been interested in doing that
[17:55] portion of it.
So, it's it's more than just give us the
[18:01] plan that and then also um we had the
previous survey on what the citizens
[18:08] would like to see and I don't know we
distributed the responses from that one.
[18:12] I tried looking through my email and
then it might have been rolled off.
[18:16] » I can I can send it again. I thought we
did but it came back for some reason my
[18:21] email back two months. So,
>> okay.
[18:23] » Yeah. Um sorry. Do you have any other
comments?
[18:27] » Uh, no. But I did find Well, I guess I
guess yes, then. Um, one of them
[18:33] commented it was something to the effect
of parking with a park above it. I mean,
[18:39] sound interesting, but how many parking
spaces could you actually fit in there?
[18:45] And does that I expect that one would be
much more expensive than anything?
[18:50] » Yes, that was the most
>> because there was I was looking at it
[18:53] and I wasn't sure if the
amount they were proposing for that was
[18:58] the design portion or if that was an
estimate of cost of actually
[19:02] constructing it. So I just assume it was
more more expensive to find it if
[19:06] there's a structure.
>> Yeah.
[19:10] » Um
it's related to this but also just in
[19:14] general discussion before about kind of
our procurement you know policy and
[19:19] mechanisms and whatnot. So one question
I have and you may have answered this
[19:22] already. I apologize if I'm asking you
to repeat yourself, but what were some
[19:26] of the uh avenues that you advertised
the the RFP in addition to the town
[19:30] website?
>> Well, there was there's a there's
[19:34] there's the town website. There's also
there's a the planning website. We
[19:39] advertise I had it to do that. Um we
also advertise it. Uh there was a
[19:44] there's a park planning website as well.
Not a park planning website, but uh
[19:50] there as well. We also reached out. I
reached out to about five or six
[19:54] different consultants as well via email.
I think only one or two responded and
[20:02] their response was um
they wanted to know what the what the
[20:07] cost would like what the budget budget
was. Sure. Okay. Um Okay. I just
[20:12] » Sorry, but the planning planning was the
strategic plan. So I didn't reach out to
[20:17] planning for the pocket.
>> Okay.
[20:19] » So Okay. Got it. Take a note of where
we're um reaching out and making sure
[20:26] that our our net is wide as we're we're
casting these particularly with again
[20:31] looking at if there are local
opportunities for this as well. Um
[20:35] » Vice May Brooks, did you have any
comments, questions?
[20:37] » This is regarding the parking lot,
>> the the pocket park.
[20:40] » Oh, the pocket park.
>> No.
[20:45] [sighs] So I think um based on the
comments here, one of the suggestions is
[20:50] to extend the um the open period to see
if there's an opportunity for one of you
[20:56] know uh another couple of
um
[21:02] respondents to provide a response. So do
we think two weeks is enough time? Is
[21:07] that getting is that delaying schedule
too much? I mean, it it's definitely
[21:11] pushing it back, but I mean, I think
that it may be worth it. I mean, I'm I'm
[21:16] willing to push, you know, extend for
another 30 days.
[21:19] » 30 days.
>> Yeah.
[21:21] » Okay.
>> In the meantime, uh, can we still go
[21:25] forward with having them create a mockup
because it's not going to I mean, at the
[21:30] end of the day, we still need to see who
the board is going to pick to go with,
[21:34] » right? So, they are aware that we're
looking to interview. the two that we do
[21:38] have they would be able to do.
>> Okay.
[21:43] » All right.
>> Other comments
[21:48] around
>> because of the the planning aspect of
[21:52] this of the community engagement and
stuff like that. I don't know if there
[21:56] are groups like um you know there's
plenty of nurseries in the area that
[22:00] might have like plant nursery type
places. Um what is it? Tuxen 301, you
[22:07] know, might have, you know, folks who
can do conceptual designs for for a for
[22:14] a part, but may not have that aspect of
it. So, we might be able to keep it
[22:19] local if you back, but you know, we'd
have to get that that part from someone
[22:25] else.
>> Yeah. So, I think I think the I think
[22:28] the RFP is out right now. We've hades to
it. I think we evaluate what we what we
[22:35] have and if any additional ones come in
and then you know we can make the
[22:39] determination based on what the
responses are if that's something that
[22:41] we need to carve out separately but I
think we don't I don't think we want to
[22:44] restart the process with
>> dissecting the RFP at this point.
[22:50] » Exactly. Um,
>> yeah, I was just going to say one thing
[22:55] it might be to see if it can get out to
some landscape architecture firms
[22:59] because sometimes they um are engaged in
doing that
[23:07] » landscape architecture firms like
engineers that have um and then
[23:13] my other comment is um my only concern
about having them mock something up out
[23:21] of community engagement would be like
would the community feel like we're
[23:27] picking a design
outside of their engagement process. So
[23:34] I just wanted to stick them on the
table. Um [clears throat]
[23:37] but it sounds like we're going to extend
the
[23:41] um periods but that's maybe for later.
>> Can I say something?
[23:46] » Um can I piggy back off of that?
>> Sure. The reason why I suggested a
[23:49] mockup was sometimes, you know, you see
a space and you really don't have the
[23:54] experience. So, you you may want things
that we can't possibly have in that
[23:59] space. So, it's not necessarily the
community can't um have input, but we
[24:05] want to kind of give them some kind of
starting point as to what it could look
[24:08] like and give them options, you know,
just to help the process along.
[24:13] » Yeah.
>> Not to take over for them and say this
[24:15] is what we're doing.
>> Sure. So, so perhaps instead of um a
[24:20] mockup of that particular specific
place, part of their presentation to us
[24:26] would be if they have examples of
similarly sized projects that they've
[24:30] done in the past and how they've
transformed them.
[24:32] » Yep, that makes sense.
>> Uh because the other part of it is, you
[24:36] know, this is it's still a competitive
bid process and we're not paying them
[24:39] for preparing their bids. So, we don't
want them to incur store work um that we
[24:44] may not choose.
That's smart. Yeah.
[24:52] » Other questions.
[24:56] » Hearing none. So, we'll extend the open
period for another 30 days. Uh we'll
[25:00] schedule the two that are that have
responded to come in to some meeting
[25:05] either at the town meeting or the next
work session whenever we can uh put it
[25:09] on the agenda. Um [clears throat]
and then we'll move from there. Okay.
[25:15] All right.
[25:18] Moving on to the next item, strategic
plan RFP response update.
[25:26] » Yeah, these two the with the strategic
plan and the pocket park. It was sort of
[25:30] like uh not take another a but could you
roll the pocket park into the strategic
[25:36] plan as well? Like you know could you
roll the design of that into the
[25:41] strategic plan? Um so that was just a
thought that I had. you know, maybe
[25:45] that's that's another option there. But
the scope of work with the
[25:49] with the strategic plan and based on the
goals of the economic development
[25:53] working group, you know, we we're
looking at business retention and
[25:56] business recruitment. Uh we're looking
at what downtown Upper Mboro is going to
[26:03] look like uh for the next five five
years and how we continue to build on
[26:08] that. Um and that that can that can
include parking which which has has been
[26:13] an issue. Um design standards and things
like that. Um we're looking at small
[26:20] business support as well because as
we've seen um recently with a with quite
[26:25] a few of our small businesses that have
come in um they they've they've
[26:29] struggled a bit. They don't understand
the process. They don't understand the
[26:32] permitting process, the licensing
processes and things like that. And we
[26:36] like to be able to create programs so
that we can continue to support small
[26:40] businesses to open and to remain open.
You know, where do you how do you get
[26:46] funding? What grants are available and
things like that. So
[26:50] the strategic plan is going to be in
place again to keep the businesses that
[26:56] we have, recruit businesses to again
create a plan for the next 5 to 10
[27:02] years. um is going to look like and how
it's going to grow. Um and and it has a
[27:08] small business support component to it
as well.
[27:17] And again, I'll ask sorry I I promise
you I'm listening to you, but um have
[27:22] you received respons how many responses
have you received to on this one as
[27:25] well? And this one's also closed.
>> Yes. Um and so same question as before.
[27:31] Uh where have we advertised? Where did
you put out the RFP?
[27:34] » I said IP is ABA. Um, and I reached out
to about I would say at least six or
[27:42] seven different
different firms. So, um, I reached out
[27:48] to one of the bigger ones, Baker Tilly.
They didn't get back to me until late. I
[27:52] guess we were going to be small potatoes
for them. Um, there was another firm
[27:56] that's really good, but Baker Tilly
acquired them. I reached out to them.
[28:00] They didn't get back to me until late as
well.
[28:03] » So, yeah, I can put it off for an
additional 30 days. And um
[28:10] as you said, widen the reach out to MML
and see if there's any.
[28:15] » So, do we get any um
>> on this one? We have two as well.
[28:20] » Yes.
>> Okay.
[28:22] » Okay.
>> Um All right. So, with with that, we'll
[28:26] continue with the questions. Council
member Live, did you have any other
[28:28] questions? Yes, sir.
>> Councilman Berkeley,
[28:32] » um I just made a comment. So, I know
that the county was actively helping um
[28:39] the west when West failure was talking
about new retail of like helping them
[28:43] recruit folks for a shopping center. And
I I went to their meeting and thought,
[28:47] why aren't they helping us with that
sort of thing? So I don't know what it
[28:53] takes, you know, if it's only new
construction if they help with that sort
[28:55] of thing because even if it was, you
know, they identified some some
[28:58] businesses that were interested in
coming to the area, but they weren't a
[29:01] right fit for Westfailia, maybe they
were a good fit for us.
[29:05] So it was uh Way who held that meeting
when she before she was at large. So I
[29:10] don't know if she would be a good
contact or if it was I think it was
[29:14] through MNCPPC and they had said they
had gone to radius for some
[29:20] SCS. Um I did I did meet with FSC, so
they did give me some contacts uh for
[29:28] business recruitment as well. And um I
haven't set up my time to meet with them
[29:32] yet, but I'm also working FSC as well.
And something else that um I'd had a
[29:37] discussion with Victor my neighbor
months ago and uh he made a suggestion
[29:43] that and I don't this would be a
separate funding thing of you know would
[29:48] it make sense to have like a liaison for
permitting somebody that was experienced
[29:53] that we could point small businesses to
that were interested and like they would
[29:58] help walk them through the process
and I don't that be like mentoring
[30:03] through the the business group or
>> well we had had a discussion with the
[30:07] economic de development working group to
have sort of an unbudsman
[30:11] » but I did reach out to a few people who
would want to do it but they wouldn't do
[30:16] it for free so it's it's there's a cost
associated with that
[30:19] » and I guess we have to you know figure
out like what is what is worthwhile for
[30:23] the town for businesses you know and it
might be that you know there are certain
[30:27] types of businesses that we know we
definitely want that we're willing to to
[30:31] assist in that way and maybe others that
we aren't But I don't have to make a
[30:35] policy on
>> Yeah.
[30:37] » on that.
[30:43] » Are we going to extend it?
>> That's what's on the table.
[30:46] » Just to see if we get any more.
>> Okay.
[30:51] » Yeah. Suggestion.
You have any objections?
[30:56] No. 30 days.
>> Any other comments?
[31:01] I I guess I have a question slash we're
extending for 30 days so I don't
[31:07] necessarily want to specifically change
with the RFP but one of the things I
[31:10] noticed about the responses
is they were from retail strategy groups
[31:15] which makes sense right and maybe the
pocket of things we're asking for is
[31:19] like more than one company does because
what I didn't notice was like how they
[31:27] were going to
work on a plan to activate the ohms
[31:32] building. And what I was thinking as I
was reading them is this retail strategy
[31:37] stuff is excellent and then there's not
this ohms plan, but I think it's because
[31:42] they're two different types of planning.
And so maybe part of the problem with
[31:48] getting the response was we're asking
for
[31:52] two different firms to come together and
submit an RFP. And that's not frequently
[31:57] going to happen. and that we maybe need
to split those two things out to get
[32:02] more responses, which of course then
that disrupts the whole process because
[32:05] you have to like send out two RFPs and
whatnot, but I just don't know if that's
[32:11] part of the reason that that's
happening.
[32:17] » Yeah, I I think that's definitely take a
look at that. It wouldn't be difficult
[32:20] to split out the two RFP. So when you
say split out of our R&D and with
[32:26] respect to the homes building, what are
you are you looking for? We be looking
[32:30] for developers interested in developing
what their ideas are or what what
[32:38] » I mean I guess the retail strategy has
to be there but also like what is
[32:43] actually physically happening with the
building because the community really
[32:46] wants to see what's physically happening
with the building and like who the right
[32:50] retailers are. Maybe that's in there and
I just wasn't I was looking for
[32:55] something more specific when I was
reading. So maybe it's fine
[32:59] a specific question. Maybe I don't know
if we can ask the people who submit like
[33:03] I don't know how to I don't know how to
identify if that's a problem or not a
[33:06] problem but I have to follow that.
>> Yeah. Well, I I mean I would think so
[33:10] one my first response is similar to the
pocket part piece which is you know we
[33:15] have the RFP that's been out so let's
see what we get with the responses on
[33:19] the extension on that but also I think
part of the strategic plan itself is
[33:25] community engagement and that is
something that is a big part or you know
[33:28] a lot on everyone's focus so I would
imagine that part of that conversation
[33:32] part of that strategic community
engagement would be determining what
[33:36] does the community want to happen with
the ohms building. I think we can say I
[33:40] think it's reasonable to say as a part
of your strategic engagement plan, this
[33:43] is a question to ask. This is a question
to kind of plan on as opposed to
[33:48] breaking it out separately right now.
>> And then maybe the responses from that
[33:52] or even the the responses from the
>> um community engagement then warrants a
[33:59] separate
>> breakout RFP.
[34:01] » That makes sense.
>> All right.
[34:05] » Okay. Any other comments on the
strategic engagement for strategic plan
[34:11] RFP?
>> I well yes um I don't know if it would
[34:16] fit into this but I remember that when
we had our candidates forum last
[34:21] collection um someone approached me
saying that she had a development
[34:26] corporation and she was in Marl.
I didn't get her contact at the time
[34:31] because election she said she would
contact me afterwards. I don't remember
[34:34] if that's one of the people that's on
the economic development council or if
[34:38] it was someone separate.
I'm liking our picture in her face and
[34:43] get her name. Um,
but I mean some of this,
[34:49] you know, might be handled by a
development corporation. So maybe we
[34:52] need to look into,
you know, are there ones in the area
[34:56] that would support us or do we need to
form one to to do these tasks long term
[35:03] rather than contract them out?
>> Yeah. And I think uh when we first
[35:07] considered or first uh legislated the
economic development work group uh a
[35:12] couple of years ago at this point, one
of the goals or one of the charges was
[35:17] for them to evolve into an economic
development corporation to do a lot of
[35:22] these to do a lot of this type of work.
Uh and so I think I don't think that the
[35:26] developer that you're talking about is
on the committee as it stands right now
[35:31] just from who I know on the committee.
But if you have that information and you
[35:35] find it, please pass it along to town
manager uh Anderson. But I think to that
[35:40] point, it's worth probably at some point
with the economic development work group
[35:43] thinking through what the steps are
necessary to move in that direction as
[35:47] that was one of the original goals. Um
but separate from
[35:51] this particular discussion, uh we we
know what a director.
[35:57] » Yes.
>> All right.
[36:00] » Sounds good. Moving right along to
demolition and debris removal
[36:09] » on the on the strategic plan or the
demolition.
[36:12] » No, demolition.
>> Okay. Well, let's let them introduce it
[36:15] first, then we'll do the we'll do the
question. One of you is taking it. Okay.
[36:20] » Okay.
and good afternoon.
[36:25] We're requesting um approval to award
the demolition contract for the uh 5510
[36:32] crane highway property um all out of
town. Um there are for those who don't
[36:38] know, there are two uh partially
standing structures uh
[36:44] on the on the property that need to be
teared down. Um, as you all know that uh
[36:51] legit came off in a site visit and made
recommendation to have them uh pretty
[36:57] much drop uh as soon as possible. Um so
along with this uh we solicited seven
[37:06] companies. Uh we got interest from four
um I believe there were report visits.
[37:13] um three um uh
submissions that three of the companies
[37:23] uh submitted our proposal and uh two
will follow on the same company. Um and
[37:32] that is the company that we would like
to move forward with which is Dickory
[37:37] and Recon.
Um so the their goal would be to simply
[37:44] reduce both uh parking band instructors
to brown leather and so that no one
[37:50] would actually cut the interior and um
you know we would have to worry about
[37:55] anyone
inside or anything like that. Um and
[38:00] also provide a temporary fencing to go
around the structure that we can move
[38:05] them. Um
uh this is the sto of a pin until we can
[38:12] uh adequately you know funds have been
removed off the bike. Um but this is
[38:17] satisfy um audit we had from the jet uh
by doing this. Um so the amount for uh
[38:26] data demolition coming in at 29,000 and
that is to reduce uh both buildings to
[38:33] ground level and that is also to um sort
of group together everything within
[38:41] 150 range of the structures and to uh
sort of level it all
[38:48] when there's no longer a large void.
side of the structures. Um so with that,
[38:56] um I will take any questions. Uh
additionally, there is a cost of $400
[39:02] per month for the temporary fencing. Um
that is until we can actually get the
[39:09] right.
[39:13] » Uh yeah. So I see tree removal on here
as well. So we're not using up a tree.
[39:19] Right. Okay. And the fence, you don't
have to actually go and everything.
[39:23] There's another couple, just a bunch of
different ones. The easiest way to do
[39:28] it,
um,
[39:41] » make sense. Um, the other question is,
um, I know that we talked before about
[39:46] getting, um,
some carts so you guys could go back
[39:51] back and forth. Where are we with that?
>> We are working on that currently. We're
[39:55] just trying to see what what will be the
most pretty much the bang for your buck
[40:01] as far as what has been uh, approved for
this year [snorts] as far as the
[40:04] purchase price.
>> Okay. A new one, right?
[40:08] » Okay.
>> Yes. Hey, that's two.
[40:13] » Two, but if uh there is a concern that
the two that we're looking at won't do
[40:19] everything we needed to do. So, it may
be one and there will be sort of a
[40:24] sharing and we keep it up here at town
hall just in case need access.
[40:30] » Yeah, cuz if they're going to do
patrols, they probably will be,
[40:35] you know, have it here to go over there.
Um, sorry before you jump in, but just a
[40:42] couple of quick questions. So, um, the
temporary thinking structure $400 a
[40:49] month, what's the timeline on how long
that's staying
[40:54] » until we can have fun to have everything
removed. Uh in order to remove
[41:00] everything from over there um just
and doing site visits, it's going to be
[41:07] quite intensive. We're going to need to
create a temporary gravel road. We're
[41:12] going to need to remove some trees uh
and we're going to have to move some
[41:16] equipment on site and uh stage over
there for that mobilization that will
[41:21] come at an increased cost as well. Um so
with this with this company uh agreeing
[41:28] to sort of grab any rubble within 150
foot radius and sort of less costly.
[41:35] » So that that answers one of my other
questions. So this this kind this
[41:39] agreement would be for primarily for
demolition but there would still be a
[41:43] significant amount of of debris that
would need to be removed at some point.
[41:47] That's what's being fenced off.
>> Yes. And this company did provide um
[41:53] to everything
that is significant cost.
[41:59] » It was approximately 87,000.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I think there was more
[42:05] that we needed that made it a little
closer to like 91.
[42:09] » But within this Sorry, I'll come to you
one second. But within this within this
[42:13] 29,000, did that include the removal of
the vehicles and the tires or this is it
[42:18] doesn't include any any removal at all?
>> Okay.
[42:22] That's but it's not in 15 radius either.
It's further away.
[42:27] » So anything that's close. Can we push
the car over there?
[42:32] Okay. Can I ask you said we had two
proposals. Is that the other proposal?
[42:36] Was it for
>> we
[42:44] Okay. Thank you.
>> Councley. Um, so as as there's multiple
[42:50] portions of their scope of work, you
know, it's kind of a line item. There's
[42:54] a mention of mow and make ready entrance
road with front deck mower.
[43:00] Is that can they do that first part of
you know dropping the building and stuff
[43:06] like that with having an entrance road?
So if they did that depending on how
[43:11] long it takes to
that stuff would just grow back up.
[43:19] » So we may end up spending money.
[43:24] » Okay. [snorts]
>> Is what what they would like to do is
[43:28] once they do that they they want to come
in and bring [clears throat] more.
[43:34] » Yeah. Well, there there was actually
two. Wait, there was a separate one for
[43:38] the
actual Oh, yeah. Yeah. The the putting
[43:41] the gravel on there and stuff for the
roadway was 19,000, but then there was
[43:45] the mowing it down to was 7500. So,
[43:54] um, as you put on what what might be a
another problem is that they have a
[44:00] proposed start date in here of May 11th
and there is another
[44:06] where was it?
[44:09] » But but the issue is that on the very
last page it says contractors rights to
[44:13] withdraw this proposal or reestimate the
price if not accepted within 15 days.
[44:18] » Validity the validity date. Have we
confirmed if the practicing is still
[44:22] valid?
>> Yes.
[44:33] » Any other comments,
Brooks?
[44:36] » May 11th. This is start date of 27th.
[44:41] The proposal was based on a May 11 start
date, but since we're now beyond that,
[44:46] May 11, 2026, he validated or confirmed
that the pricing is still valid if we
[44:50] approve it tonight.
>> Okay. What fund is that coming out of?
[44:54] » Well, that would come from our operating
and then we don't have a separate fund
[44:59] for that, but the operating account.
>> Yeah. But that there is money available
[45:03] for that. So,
>> we're not pulling from any other
[45:07] accounts. is coming from our operating
area.
[45:09] » Oh, wait. One more. When you say uh you
asked this question, did you give an
[45:14] answer? Um
how many how long will it take for how
[45:19] long will this process take? Cuz it's
$400 a month for the FIN fee. So, how
[45:24] long would that process take? That that
depends on when we move forward and
[45:29] allocated to actually
[45:38] the overall price is about $80,000 to
remove everything. So
[45:52] » I have a couple of questions. Um
>> the the first one is because you said
[45:58] the fund it was coming from but we we
did budget this. Yes, I feel like we
[46:02] budgeted for this or or is it coming out
of contingency then?
[46:06] » Well, I guess it will come out we could
it will come out different contingencies
[46:10] but we don't have a specific line item.
>> Okay. So, is are we gonna have to amend
[46:15] our budget or we gonna
>> Well, well, we would have to make a
[46:20] budget amendment at some point anyway
because um there's an additional fund
[46:26] balance as well. So, we would have to
amend the budget.
[46:29] » Okay. So, we have a line item to take it
out of and then we'll address it when we
[46:32] amend the budget. Okay. Um
then
[46:38] so one thing about fencing is and this
may be crazy like can we purchase
[46:44] fencing but I'm guessing that there's
also like maintenance of the fencing and
[46:47] whatnot
>> but
[46:52] the fencing will keep people out of it.
[snorts]
[46:58] Yes. No. I don't know the reason I'm
so because I can see sort of that area
[47:05] from my home. There are occasionally
buyers back there. Like I think
[47:11] somebody's back there,
>> right? And so the concern that I'm
[47:17] having is they're going to take all this
debris from two structures and put it in
[47:22] a pile.
And we can see that people are lighting
[47:27] fires back there. and it's the woods.
And so like how are we ensuring
[47:32] that that doesn't become
a fire that then endangers the 16 homes
[47:41] that are
>> okay the fire aspect was a little new to
[47:47] me.
Um but with the temporary fencing
[47:53] with any fence pretty much you can do
you can
[47:58] » but it is um it has very heavy fences.
The fence themselves are particularly
[48:05] light but they're sort of heavy duty and
they're also bolted together. So that
[48:12] should there access door or anything. So
that should
[48:18] keep any reasonable
>> but I mean it is a chain link fence. So
[48:25] if someone does want to set fire to it,
you can. Do we have an option of 8 foot?
[48:32] I believe I believe it's it's roughly
the same as these, but I believe these
[48:38] » and then I think there were when we had
this discussion. Sorry.
[48:41] » No, we can keep this discussion.
>> Um when we had this discussion before, I
[48:45] think legit had had a number of other
safety or security measures that they
[48:50] had recommended as well. Are those still
on the table in addition to this
[48:54] demolition piece? Have we just to again
address the issue of making sure no
[48:58] one's going back there?
>> Well, one of the one of the security
[49:01] measures was having a light and we're
>> we we're not going to do that.
[49:06] » Sure.
>> But um for legit, and correct me if I'm
[49:10] wrong, they were satisfied with the with
the 8ft fence uh completely enclosed and
[49:16] secured and posted. So they were
satisfied with that along with
[49:21] um I guess a chain across the front, you
know, blocking that off as well. So um
[49:26] so but what we had in place there is
good for them.
[49:31] » And there's also some things that they
had us do to the actual structure
[49:34] themselves. Uh take them off with
caution tape. Each entrance that we know
[49:41] is um uh blocked off with caution tape.
There's posted no trespassing signs, no
[49:48] injury and all those sort of things. And
we patrol it uh twice a week. So with
[49:54] all that, we'll be able to tell if
someone does access the property.
[49:58] » Council, you had two more. I
>> had two two more questions. And these
[50:02] are more on like structure and historic
elements, which is when they're demoing
[50:08] the structure that has those stone
columns. Are they demoing the stone
[50:11] columns or are they leaving the stone
columns?
[50:13] » I believe they're demoing
[50:17] They're really pretty, guys. I don't
know if you've all seen them.
[50:19] » I've seen them.
>> Um,
[50:21] and then I know like this is like I've
asked this and it's like a hard ask, but
[50:28] the the Gant house, if there's anything
salvageable from the Gant House, can it
[50:33] be?
And that was the one that was
[50:36] » the little white one that's collapsed
like white in blue. Um like
[50:41] » I'll go back there with the demolition
table if there is anything.
[50:46] » I don't want anyone to hurt themselves
but if there's
[50:49] » Yeah. As they're you know as they're
going through it if there's anything.
[50:54] » Thank you. I appreciate it.
>> Um
[50:57] last question. But it is possible that
they can jump over the fence. Yes, it is
[51:03] possible.
>> Well, can I just say it is possible for
[51:08] them to go back there now even though we
have the thing and that's why sign there
[51:13] to say so if something happens it's at
their own risk and that kind of protects
[51:18] the town by having all these posted
signs and doing the um and taping up the
[51:23] entrances and the windows. It actually
takes the onus off of the town.
[51:28] » Yeah. to a degree, but I I I'm sensitive
to Council Member Franklin's point that
[51:33] if we're now leaving just a large pile
of
[51:39] » even if it's even if the the town is
protected in one way or another, that
[51:43] doesn't mean anything if
>> woods catch fire and people's houses
[51:47] catch fire. So, so we want to make sure
that's
[51:51] » I think the fencing is the is the one
piece.
[51:56] » Yeah. So may maybe I mean I think it all
comes down to maybe the answer is that
[52:01] we have to pay the $80,000. That's
really the only way to
[52:07] for the liability to be gone. So at the
end of the fiscal year, what I can say
[52:12] is that there were
several things that we didn't end up
[52:17] doing. We didn't end up uh using
$150,000 in reserves for the splash pad.
[52:23] We didn't have to do that. So, it's
quite possible we could take money from
[52:28] there to pay the $80,000, but it's
there's really no way to guarantee
[52:34] guarantee that no one was going to get
back there. And the reason that there
[52:39] are so many,
you know, we had to label it no passing
[52:44] and secure it is because it does reduce
our liability and legit would be able to
[52:50] defend us by by doing that. That's fine.
>> But I think at I think at the end of the
[52:55] day
>> at at the end of the day though, we have
[52:58] to come up with the solution. When are
we going to
[53:03] » Yeah.
>> demolish
[53:10] of the fact that we put these signs in
place and
[53:14] » pictures to document it. So if anything
happens that we do have record of
[53:18] » Yeah.
[53:21] there every couple of weeks police
department evacue as well. So we are
[53:26] showing that we our due diligence
>> I do want to see you probably know that
[53:33] » already council
>> Bley
[53:35] » um on the the trashwood issue. So the
the first the first bullet point, the
[53:40] one that we're looking at, the $29,000
says specifically demolish and remove
[53:43] trash, wood, and debris from existing
structure to the best of our ability to
[53:47] have mechanical means. But then also the
cape in the existing stone, concrete to
[53:51] bottom of existing bill, which I assume
would be taking up that portion that
[53:56] you're interested in preserving. Um
there is an alternate for 19,000
[54:02] which is alternate option for Mr. bond
cave an existing structure and separate
[54:07] and pile wood inside existing structure
which we're not going with. And then
[54:11] there was also uh the second bullet
point tree removal and stacking. Remove
[54:15] and pile tree stumps between existing
house ruin and pond with concrete sides
[54:19] which I also don't think we're doing. So
So I think they're removing the wood.
[54:26] We're not adding any more down wood than
is already there. So just from a
[54:31] liability standpoint, I don't think
we're creating problems. I mean, there's
[54:36] still pre-existing problem, but we're
not adding.
[54:43] » Okay. Okay. We can get started.
[54:48] » Yes.
>> Any other questions from Council before?
[54:53] » Um, not a question comment. Um, green
tree has been good to me for tree
[55:00] removal. Um, I don't know if there's any
tree removal aspects of this that need
[55:05] to be bid out, but we should probably
ask them also.
[55:09] » Council member,
>> they've been helping throughout the
[55:11] town. They're pretty good for sure. He's
he's in contact already. Um, I just
[55:16] wanted to see if we could kind of
somehow figure out how to renegotiate
[55:20] this contract to make it more worth, you
know, because if you going to give him
[55:26] two different parts of it, I think he
could give you a better.
[55:30] » What do you mean?
>> You said you have two different
[55:32] proposals. One for the track removal and
one for him to break the do the
[55:36] demolition. Um,
>> so the the other one it does is a
[55:41] demolition included in
>> Right. And and wasn't that for us?
[55:46] » That is the roughly close to 90,000,
>> right? But they're doing everything.
[55:53] » And we may we may need to look at that
because if they're doing the demolition
[55:57] and removing the trash, that may be it
may be easiest for us to pay the 90,000
[56:02] instead of paying what 80,000 and then
29,000.
[56:06] » Well,
would be the 29,
[56:10] » right? But to do to remove everything
except for the things down in the ravine
[56:16] um which we haven't been able to really
investigate yet would be the 90,000.
[56:23] » Right. So that's what I'm saying. So the
if we're comparing the contracts
[56:28] um you got two contracts, one to demo
and one to remove and then the other
[56:32] contract to give you a contract to do
everything. Is that what I'm hearing? So
[56:37] the it's just one to do everything demo
separated
[56:45] demo and then separate separate.
>> Okay.
[56:50] » So I I think the I think the the crux of
the question was is there any cost
[56:55] savings by contracting everything
together versus basically billing it at
[57:00] this point? that I don't know. I know we
it's 29 here and then it will be another
[57:05] 60 or 61 to finish the right and that is
I mean
[57:12] that's if we decide to go with this
company or everything with the other
[57:17] companies it was a little higher um and
also
[57:22] fuel prices things like that inflation a
year from now this could be more
[57:28] » I don't think we're going to wait a
whole year to get this done I think It's
[57:32] imperative that we move forward with
things so that there's no bonfire back
[57:37] there.
>> And
[57:38] » well, in in regards to that specifically
with how grounds been lately, if I mean,
[57:44] if anything happens back there,
>> I mean, that is a possibility, not just
[57:50] specific to this site.
>> Yeah, that is inherent now. Not even
[57:54] like it's not exacerbated by
something that's working. I guess that
[58:00] just makes it a trap.
>> Okay.
[58:05] » I was just going to think the reason
that we're waiting is because we can put
[58:09] this in line items, but we can't put
90,000 items. So, we have to do a budget
[58:13] adjustment to get the removal and so we
just need to do that.
[58:18] » But we also need to get it down sooner.
Is that Do I understand that correctly?
[58:21] » Yeah. Budgeting.
>> Okay. Uh, with that said, is there a
[58:28] motion
to approve the demolition contract with
[58:34] bigger done right?
>> So moved.
[58:37] » Is there a second?
>> Go ahead.
[58:40] » All right. Uh, we'll take public
comment. If there's anyone again in the
[58:44] room who would like to provide public
comment, please come to the podium,
[58:46] state your name and streak.
>> If there's anyone online, please raise
[58:50] your hand.
those fans online.
[58:57] Sorry.
[59:04] Is school lane
have my daughter looking up where the
[59:10] property is located. So, it's right
across the street here. Yes. How visible
[59:14] is that from the road? Think about we
did not remove the debris. So it's the
[59:21] property was taken down the impact of
people's perception of the town seeing
[59:27] that there
um so property right on the road
[59:33] I I'll say from being back to well yeah
so I'll let you answer. Well, the the
[59:37] the act the the entire property, yes,
it's the tree line behind the houses
[59:42] here, but the actual structures are
further uh to the
[59:47] um which you can't see from the road.
>> Well, when you pass by, you can see a
[59:53] chain. You can see a chain. So, and it
says uh no question. That's it for
[1:00:03] » any other public comment online or in
the room.
[1:00:06] » See anything.
>> Right. Hearing or seeing none. Thank
[1:00:10] you. Um man, could you please call the
order?
[1:00:14] » Mayor, I vice mayor. I
>> council member Franklin. Hi. Council
[1:00:20] » member. Hi. Council member. Hi.
Motion passes. We'll move on to the
[1:00:28] compact tractor purchase. Director
[1:00:53] Okay.
[1:00:57] So um we've uh sort of had this
conversation before we purchased
[1:01:03] something
uh that has already proved uh to our
[1:01:09] operation in town. Um, I know we sort of
had a plan to try to minimize the
[1:01:16] smaller tractor that we have until we
were able to uh move forward with uh the
[1:01:24] purchase of another tractor. But that at
the moment it just
[1:01:30] tractor is
it needs to go in the shop currently and
[1:01:35] it's not work anymore. [laughter]
>> Yeah.
[1:01:40] Um
but uh what is attractive about uh this
[1:01:48] offer um although we had discussed it
before um is that this can be paid this
[1:01:55] will be paid for out of speed.
[1:02:01] Um so we had uh discussed it with chief.
He's going to look over everything and
[1:02:07] he is in agreement that we can move
forward uh uh with this purchase under
[1:02:13] the speed cage title. Um and you know
this is and the [clears throat] pretty
[1:02:19] much the pl is you know we're going to
use it for sidewalk snow removal and
[1:02:24] things of that nature which our larger
tractor is typically not able to do.
[1:02:30] Uh this tractor uh is made specifically
for this type of work um for sidewalks
[1:02:39] and things like that. It is actually
smaller than the small tractor that we
[1:02:44] have now. However, it's lifting
capacity. It's more of a heavy unit
[1:02:49] whereas what we have is more of a
homeowning
[1:02:53] sort of deal. Um
[clears throat]
[1:02:57] uh [snorts] with that I will take any
um we got uh three quotes one from John
[1:03:04] here one from uh New Holland and this
one from I know the one picture
[1:03:12] but the one we're actually getting for
this price
[1:03:18] is a a
[1:03:22] So, first question I'm going to ask,
well, I'm going to ask a couple of
[1:03:27] questions. Me, too. First question I'm
going to ask is time frame for delivery
[1:03:33] because we've had we
[1:03:40] » Okay. And two, uh we've thoroughly
vetted uh that the uses for this would
[1:03:49] fall under the pedestrian safety
mechanisms for speed camera funding.
[1:03:54] » Yes.
>> Started in this end of the table this
[1:03:58] time. Council member Franklin.
>> Um, so I just want to you've answered
[1:04:03] most of my questions. My question is
just like so this will be able to go
[1:04:06] onto the property as well.
>> Yes.
[1:04:12] » Right. I said your own name. So I wanted
to clarify it can go over there and do
[1:04:16] the work we need to do over there.
>> All right. You answered the rest of my
[1:04:19] question. Okay, Brooks.
>> Okay, so you I'm reading here. So this
[1:04:23] is mainly for the sidewalks like snow
removal, cleaning, I mean sidewalk and
[1:04:29] trail maintenance, transportational
materials. How much machin can you get
[1:04:33] in that little small thing
and general municipality maintenance
[1:04:39] support? Okay. But we don't have a
tractor like this now. You said it's a
[1:04:43] bigger one.
>> The the one we have is essentially big.
[1:04:48] How long has it been dead?
[1:04:57] » But and and Okay. So, we have nothing
that would do the job that we have now.
[1:05:03] We don't anything to replace it.
this what this does specifically
[1:05:10] you guys just recently
but that by no means can get on the
[1:05:17] sidewalk and do removals um if we have
another ice storm like we had this year
[1:05:23] uh being able to actually pick up and
move the snow was invaluable you could
[1:05:27] not push
>> that's that's small
[1:05:30] » yeah I think I think if I remember
correctly I remember seeing you I think
[1:05:33] this this ice probably were killed.
>> See remember seeing you out there
[1:05:39] working
working hard. So um you know hopefully
[1:05:44] that was a once a year storm but not
this would be useful to get it off the
[1:05:49] ground before it turns into ice again.
Did you have any other questions Vice
[1:05:53] Mayor Brooks? Okay, Council. Uh
>> I was just looking up the specs on it. I
[1:05:58] was trying to find the width. Looks like
it's about 45 in wide.
[1:06:04] It is. It comes with two different u
um but I verified the one that we're
[1:06:12] getting is uh what is it?
[1:06:18] Say it 48. I believe it's 48. It's
either 48 or 49. I mean it's a little
[1:06:23] bit wider than the tell. So I just
sidewalk for about
[1:06:33] this can be outfitted with the actual
plat.
[1:06:38] » That was the other question like how
many devices it rated for
[1:06:43] specifically.
[1:06:47] » Any other questions? Council Berkeley.
Council member L.
[1:06:53] » Thank you chief.
[1:06:57] So that's I have no objections yet.
>> Okay,
[1:07:04] » with that, do I have a to approve the
compact tractor purchase?
[1:07:09] » So move.
>> Second.
[1:07:10] » A second.
>> Second.
[1:07:12] » All right, we'll public comment. Again,
if there's any public comment in the
[1:07:15] room, please step to the podium, name
and street. Anybody online, please raise
[1:07:19] your hand.
We'll
[1:07:21] » raise hands online.
[1:07:30] tracker be available not by us but by
public work or like
[1:07:40] » it would be on town sidewalks town right
[1:07:48] there.
All right.
[1:07:56] [laughter]
[1:07:58] » Okay. Um, let's call the roller.
>> Mayor Cver,
[1:08:03] » Vice Mayor Call the RO, Vice Mayor
Brooks.
[1:08:18] like to come back to you.
>> Please come back to you.
[1:08:21] » Council member,
>> hi.
[1:08:23] » Council member,
>> hi.
[1:08:26] » Council member,
>> hi.
[1:08:28] » Vice Mayor Brook.
[1:08:44] » Oh my.
[1:08:48] And the and the final price is 26,000.
>> Yes.
[1:08:54] » The 330 344.
[1:08:58] » And what's the expected longevity?
>> Um with uh factors and things like that
[1:09:06] bumped up to about 10 years as opposed
to seven years.
[1:09:12] The one that we have currently, I
believe, is from 2005,
[1:09:18] I believe.
>> And it broke down this year.
[1:09:22] » Broke down a few times.
>> Yeah.
[1:09:25] We delivered this far.
>> We paid to fix it a number of times.
[1:09:31] » Because I know
[1:09:52] verbal response.
[1:10:00] » Oh my goodness. Um,
and it's coming from the pedestrian u
[1:10:06] camera.
[1:10:11] Okay. All right. But this is
[1:10:17] still, but it's a
>> care. It's just, you know,
[1:10:23] » they need it. How they going to get
those jobs?
[1:10:25] » All right. Motion patches.
>> We'll move on to business item 6F,
[1:10:31] staff's response to unhoused community
town. uh chief is not here this evening
[1:10:38] but he provided a memorandum who's going
to
[1:10:42] » but uh
well Darn do you mind speaking to what
[1:10:48] you've done with on on the public works
side with the with addressing some of
[1:10:52] these complaints as well
[clears throat] yes um from from our
[1:10:57] perspectives
in the meantime while we will make the
[1:11:02] convention that we need to
[1:11:06] going to have actually
added that into their litter collection
[1:11:11] rotation. Uh simply because for one
portion of it um although it is county
[1:11:18] property uh one portion of it really
start to but against the sidewalk and is
[1:11:24] extremely unattractive. So we go ahead
and take care of it. But um as far as
[1:11:29] making contact with the county, reached
out to uh OPS,
[1:11:35] they were unable to sort of point me in
the right direction of who can sort of
[1:11:41] make the call to uh try to pass the
individual or ban the individual from
[1:11:46] the property. Um they also stated that
they have a
[1:11:52] a real estate division who sort of
maintains the county's properties. Um I
[1:12:00] ask for that number as far as uh who can
actually come out and clean the
[1:12:06] properties because they see it every
day. However, they don't. Um they either
[1:12:14] couldn't or chose not to give me the
numbers. saying that we would not be
[1:12:18] able to direct them to
>> I have a number in the name. Um I also
[1:12:25] went over to the circuit court had
building today. Um and was and had to
[1:12:31] you know beat the thumb on the ground
the property and cleaning it up with uh
[1:12:37] and part of getting banned of trespass
and they asked me to come back tomorrow
[1:12:42] and the uh corporal who actually is in
charge of that fight is there. Don't
[1:12:49] know my plan to move forward with that
tomorrow.
[1:12:54] » I put an account 311 request for them to
come.
[1:13:01] » No, no, I think I think that's
>> Oh, you go with
[1:13:05] that.
>> All right. So, you know, the
[1:13:11] the the issue with the unhoused
community, as everybody knows, is pretty
[1:13:14] complicated. And this isn't just it
didn't just start this year. I think uh
[1:13:18] when council member Franklin was mayor,
there were some concerns as well and
[1:13:23] when we were trying to work with our
stakeholders with the with the county to
[1:13:27] try to get the services that these folks
needed. Um I think that um there were
[1:13:33] sort of two things going on with the
unhouse community for a while and a part
[1:13:37] of it was uh people were being released
from the jail showing up in town but
[1:13:41] they were sort of transient and then
they leave. Right now we have two two
[1:13:47] people that are here constantly
>> that are you know causing issues with
[1:13:52] with respect to trash and things like
that. Um we're getting complaints
[1:13:56] probably 5 to 10 a week from businesses
residents as well. So what the police
[1:14:04] department has done and obvious you know
the police department can't go out put
[1:14:08] them in a car and take somewhere else.
Um but what they have done is they've
[1:14:12] tried to
uh get them the services that that that
[1:14:16] that that they've needed. Um they've
worked with the they've worked directly
[1:14:21] with the county. Uh just recently um a
county worker came out and engaged with
[1:14:26] the with one of the individuals and they
did accept some county services. Um the
[1:14:31] other individual still doesn't want to
accept county services. Of course, you
[1:14:35] know, you don't want to arrest your way
out of things, but you know, a part of a
[1:14:41] part of what's keeping some of the folks
around is that the the property owners
[1:14:47] are allowing them to to stay there. Um,
now they had been staying in the post
[1:14:53] office. The post office was open for 24
hours and then the post office limited
[1:14:58] their lobby hours from 6:00 to 8. So,
that helped there. Um, as Darnell had
[1:15:03] mentioned, you know, it may come down to
the county issuing a no trespass order
[1:15:09] so that they don't have that place to
go. But ultimately the town, I mean,
[1:15:15] it's not just
we would like them to get the services
[1:15:19] that they need, but we also have have to
recognize that they are having an impact
[1:15:24] downtown. Um, so we've done basically
all that we can do on on on the social
[1:15:29] work side of things. Um, and we we will
continue to work with with the county to
[1:15:35] try to address it. Um, but again, one of
the individuals has accepted some some
[1:15:39] services and we've also reached out to I
think one of the individuals reached out
[1:15:44] to to the mayor and I think I got an
email as well and um we tried to direct
[1:15:51] this person
to the services that they needed on the
[1:15:54] federal and state level as well.
Yeah, I think I think for for me I think
[1:15:59] the the conversation is around one
being unhoused is not illegal in the
[1:16:06] town of Upper Marboro and there's no
suggestion or at least I'm not I'm not
[1:16:10] entertaining [clears throat] a
suggestion that we make it illegal in in
[1:16:12] the town. Um but there are
circumstances that have arose that need
[1:16:18] to be addressed as well. So I think what
we're doing in terms of the police, in
[1:16:22] terms of public works, in terms of you,
town manager Anderson with general
[1:16:25] government continuing to engage with the
county to make sure that the services uh
[1:16:30] are at least offered even if you know
constantly consistently. Clearly it work
[1:16:34] for at least one individual and we just
going to we're just going to have to
[1:16:37] continue to to push that. The other
piece of it too is now this may sound a
[1:16:43] little bit harsh but there there there
are needs being met by individuals that
[1:16:47] are causing them to not have to take up
services. So we have to be cognizant of
[1:16:52] as a community as well. Yes, we want to
be helpful. Yes, we want to, you know,
[1:16:57] we don't want to see any of our any of
our neighbors or fellow humans in need,
[1:17:01] but we also need to make sure that we're
redirecting them to the places that can
[1:17:04] actually provide professional services
so that they are in those spaces and
[1:17:08] not, [snorts] you know, creating,
for lack of a better term, nuisances or
[1:17:14] messes or things of that nature. Uh in
addition to that,
[1:17:19] in places where they're on county
property, we have to be engaged with the
[1:17:22] county to make sure that they are taking
the responsibility and cleaning up those
[1:17:25] areas or doing whatever is necessary to
make sure that doesn't continue to um
[1:17:30] provide uh negative impacts on the town.
So, I think those all of those things
[1:17:35] are things that we are we are doing and
have to continue to do in order to try
[1:17:39] to make this situation um keep it keep
it from from expanding. Um, that's my
[1:17:47] perspective on it and I'll, you know,
I'll leave it open to the to the rest of
[1:17:50] the council if there are suggestions or
thoughts that we should entertain. But I
[1:17:53] think that's I think that's where we are
with it. Vice May.
[1:17:58] » Yeah. I I know it's extremely difficult
in dealing in this situation, but
[1:18:04] we've got to do something because I walk
and walk home every day.
[1:18:10] Um,
and I get bombarded.
[1:18:15] What can you do? The I'm People are
coming up to me showing me pictures. Why
[1:18:19] aren't you guys picking up this trash?
I'm like, trash is not picked up by us.
[1:18:23] It's picked up by the county. And you
you someone will come out and pick up
[1:18:28] the trash. The next day it's back again.
Food, tra. Me personally, I had seen one
[1:18:37] individual
defecate by that side
[1:18:41] um metal thing and it's human feces is
still sitting there and it's an eyes
[1:18:49] sore. You know, people walk throughout
the town daily going to the courthouse,
[1:18:54] going to in the county administration
building, going to the post office or
[1:18:59] wherever.
[1:19:02] » [clears throat]
>> One day this gentleman just started
[1:19:04] yelling and screaming. I mean, I don't
know what happened. Just started yelling
[1:19:08] and screaming
and it's just and the sheriff's
[1:19:13] department was talking. It's like maybe
we can I don't know get involved with
[1:19:17] them and see what help we can work
together with. But it it is it's
[1:19:21] becoming increasingly bad. You know, we
have like uh we had the ceremony
[1:19:26] recently and the one individual just
came right in and started picking up the
[1:19:31] food that was that was supposed to be
given out to the people that was coming
[1:19:35] for the ceremony. And uh it it's just an
eyes sore and we because you when when
[1:19:42] Mayor Frank was mayor, I think you guys
offered them some help to take them to
[1:19:45] the shelter. They did fine. This is this
is daily. This has been going on for
[1:19:50] like a year and a half now. I do believe
we did reach out to the sheriff's,
[1:19:54] right? Or we are going to reach out to
the sheriff's.
[1:19:57] » Yes. So today we just contact the
sheriff. Yes. Good.
[1:20:00] » Because I spoke to the one of the
sheriff and they were like, you know,
[1:20:02] and they know this individual by name
and they were like, well, maybe we can,
[1:20:06] you know, work together with something.
I said, well, sure, I can bring it to
[1:20:09] the the board, but this is
>> right. But they were, I guess, so we are
[1:20:15] planning on working working closely.
But I don't think anyone has gone and
[1:20:20] pick up them human feces yet.
>> That's on private That's on county
[1:20:24] property.
>> It's on county property and it's that
[1:20:26] bush where they keep their stuff in
their trash bag and that they used to
[1:20:30] pick that up but that hasn't been moved.
>> I mean you walk past five trash cans
[1:20:35] with your food and you just leave it
there and you there's like five tracks
[1:20:38] and they don't throw it in the trash.
>> So I think one of the pieces with that
[1:20:43] too is notifying the county when these
things happen. So whether it's a 311
[1:20:48] call or whatever it is, I think we have
to um all and not just us as a board,
[1:20:52] but anyone who sees this have have to be
diligent in reporting this to the county
[1:20:56] so that they have enough it shouldn't
take more than one, but so that they
[1:21:01] have enough notifications to act on
cleaning up those spaces that's on their
[1:21:05] property.
>> And today you did call 311 today and you
[1:21:08] did your first 311.
>> Yes. Yes,
[1:21:11] » I actually did it through the app. That
way I could send pictures
[1:21:16] as well.
>> And what I'd like to do, I'm I'm sure
[1:21:19] 311 has a database that maintains all of
these tickets and all of these calls
[1:21:22] that happen, but I'd like for us to if
we're notified of anything for us to
[1:21:26] keep track of, you know, the number of
calls that we're making to them on these
[1:21:29] issues as well.
[1:21:34] » Um, so you were very diplomatic. I'll
try to be
[1:21:40] » so you know there is one individual who
will not accept help. There have been
[1:21:46] other people who are experiencing
homelessness in town. We can connect
[1:21:52] with them. We can get them to services
and we can help them move on. That's
[1:21:55] been my experience.
When
[1:21:59] you go by this individual and your heart
says, "Oh, I need to give them money or
[1:22:03] I need to give them food because they
need it." I promise you that person has
[1:22:09] plenty. Plenty. And that's where the
trash is coming from. Um, and that is
[1:22:15] the barrier to that individual receiving
the services they need. There is a
[1:22:21] mental health issue. the county, the
sheriff's office, the county police, the
[1:22:26] county homelessness division, everybody
knows, but you're getting what you need
[1:22:33] without having to do anything. Then
you're not going to be able to build
[1:22:38] that relationship with people who can
help you. So, uh, who watches our
[1:22:43] meetings, right? But we're all part of
the solution. And part of that solution
[1:22:48] is saying, I'm actually going to call
the county and ask the county to reach
[1:22:52] out to this person and help us because
that's where that person gets the help
[1:22:56] they need. And then I would say on the
311, what I did find is I know it's
[1:23:02] annoying, right? But Vice Mayor Brooke,
like as people say to you, say report it
[1:23:07] on 311 now because the more of us that
reported on 311, responsive 311 is.
[1:23:13] That's just like something I experienced
over years. So
[1:23:18] to be a team effort is my statement.
[1:23:25] » Well, we'll start council. Um, so it's
it's been well more than a year and a
[1:23:30] half since since he's been around
because he I mean it may be a year and a
[1:23:34] half in town, but he was usually over at
the Exxon near the Amish market
[1:23:41] um for since before the pandemic. And
then during the pandemic, he moved down
[1:23:47] to uh near the Dunkin Donuts on 301 in
Marbor Pike. and then at some point when
[1:23:54] he relocated to here, um
I believe
[1:24:02] the there's a there's a female in town
who is more discreet.
[1:24:08] Um I don't know fully what her situation
is, but she's been known to sleep in the
[1:24:13] library.
Um but takes her stuff with her and
[1:24:18] doesn't leave piles of trash. So, and
she's been
[1:24:23] I want to say on and off for a decade at
least.
[1:24:28] » It's It's been a long time. Um the
library staff probably have more info or
[1:24:33] or maybe it's two different women
because I usually see them sleeping and
[1:24:38] covered up. I'm not sure if it's the
same person over the years.
[1:24:43] I just wanted to say that the gentleman
that we were talking about uh just
[1:24:49] recently um I saw them sleep over there
where we have the Christmas party um
[1:24:55] they were sleep on the grass right in
the front and [snorts] their whole
[1:24:59] bottom was out and it was facing
it was facing the street. Mhm.
[1:25:04] » And I said the next time cuz I was so
shocked. I was driving by. I said the
[1:25:08] next time I'm going to take a picture
and send it to the county because that's
[1:25:10] indecent exposure. And um he was sleep.
But the point was that he deliberately
[1:25:19] was facing,
you know, the part that was uncovered
[1:25:24] and then directed of Main Street.
And it was right right in the grass
[1:25:29] right here on the front. So it's not
like he can be missed. So, we really
[1:25:34] need to um start picking pictures if we
see things like that because that can
[1:25:38] probably help with um removal
permanently.
[1:25:45] » I have pictures of the human. Sorry
everybody. I don't mean be to mean to be
[1:25:49] gross, but I took pictures of the human
feces. I feel took a picture when he was
[1:25:53] doing it, but I didn't want to get
yelled at. But
[1:25:59] » so just because the the these two
behaviors that have been described, I
[1:26:04] like my husband's a therapist and he
does emergency petition people. I don't
[1:26:08] know the exact requirements, but I think
being unclothed can lead to an emergency
[1:26:14] petition. So I think if you call when
you see that say you call I guess you
[1:26:20] would call 911 or 988 and say that this
person is out on the street with their
[1:26:27] oxide hanging out then that might be
able to help them because it's mental
[1:26:31] health services that this person needs
right and so when we see something that
[1:26:36] can trigger the mental health services
then that may be what needs to happen um
[1:26:43] I don't know I'm not the therapist. Greg
is, but I know that some of that is
[1:26:47] related to
>> So, it sounds like part of the other
[1:26:51] part too is making sure that
we all need everyone in town knows the
[1:26:57] the correct numbers and resources to
call as well as there are these things
[1:27:00] that you know things like this that that
we're seeing who's the correct number to
[1:27:04] call if it's 311 is it 98 or whatever.
So maybe there's
[1:27:09] 988 the non-emergency uh
um but maybe we can I'm sorry
[1:27:18] um
>> wait sorry the 988 is mental health
[1:27:21] » oh okay
>> u but maybe there's some education that
[1:27:23] we could put out [clears throat]
just letting people know what the
[1:27:28] numbers are
so more educated
[1:27:36] okay I don't know.
>> Does the county still have a municipal
[1:27:39] leaison? I found the website and they
mentioned that the office still exists,
[1:27:43] but they don't give a name because we
used to have somebody that we could call
[1:27:47] for county services if we were having
[1:27:57] » I'm amazed by that brutal. They made it
through that winter.
[1:28:01] » They were probably to be in the post
office. That's probably why the the six
[1:28:06] rules triggered.
>> I don't know. I seen them like on the
[1:28:10] street
>> under the post like in the middle of the
[1:28:14] snowstorm just sitting there and the
snow was just falling just sitting there
[1:28:17] in the days and I said that can't be
can't be any
[1:28:22] seen camp out in the underway.
[1:28:27] » Okay.
>> Okay.
[1:28:29] » All right.
So
[1:28:32] » any other comments on that discussion? I
think we, you know, we do some education
[1:28:37] here in the town. We will if if we if
you see something, say something. You
[1:28:41] know, that old adage uh and and we'll
keep track of any of the calls that
[1:28:46] we're making to 311 or the other.
>> Right. And I'm going to continue to the
[1:28:51] executive
on the county executive's office as
[1:28:55] well. I guess some closure on the county
property side.
[1:29:01] » All right. Um we'll move on to general
public comment. Uh so this is for
[1:29:06] anything not on tonight's agenda. If you
have a general public comment uh to
[1:29:11] make, please step to the podium, state
your name and street uh and we'll give
[1:29:15] you the opportunity to speak. And then
also if you're online please raise your
[1:29:18] hand um for the same
[1:29:25] going once.
>> Going twice.
[1:29:30] Okay.
Um previously mentioned we'll do the
[1:29:35] preliminary approval of next meeting
agenda here now. And so the items that I
[1:29:41] have
[1:29:47] I will I will reopen the general
[1:29:58] am
[1:30:01] sorry late noted but there's anything
you wanted to bring to ask about or
[1:30:09] might not know anything so just want to
go
[1:30:14] Thank you very much.
>> Thank you.
[1:30:18] » Anyone else in this reopened general
public comment?
[1:30:24] » Um, nothing online. All right. The items
that I have that I'm tracking uh on
[1:30:30] this, you know, rolling agenda that
exists somewhere or at least moving
[1:30:36] forward. So, one of them is
um as we're talking about the potent the
[1:30:42] opening of the splash pad, there have
[clears throat] been some discussion
[1:30:46] about um providing an official name for
the splash pad. So, I'd actually like
[1:30:51] for us to have that discussion on what
we uh think uh an appropriate name for
[1:30:56] the splash pad would be if it's named in
honor of someone or the other. So, what
[1:30:59] I asked council or town manager Anderson
previously was uh to draft a resolution
[1:31:04] for us. And what I would like us to do
as a count as a council is to in this
[1:31:09] next period before the next meeting just
submit uh potential names for us to
[1:31:13] discuss at the meeting on the 24th and
then we'll make a decision there. Uh so
[1:31:19] resolution for naming a playground a
splash pad. Uh codification we need to
[1:31:24] reopen that discussion.
Um so we'll put that on there. And then
[1:31:29] we talked previously um one thing that's
languishing out there is the vacant
[1:31:34] property ordinance and I think part of
that was
[1:31:39] um
town manager Anderson you kind of
[1:31:43] jenning up what the oper what the
operational aspects and costs would be
[1:31:47] and I know you've had a number of items
on your plate. Is that something that
[1:31:51] would be available by the next meeting?
If not, let's set a let's set a date for
[1:31:54] when we can actually
>> I don't want to even down, but probably
[1:31:58] not for the next meeting.
>> Is the August 11th session?
[1:32:07] » Well, that's the public hearing.
>> Since I'm the one pushing this, can I
[1:32:11] make a suggestion? Sure.
>> Right now, Council
[1:32:15] Manager Anderson is under staff. We need
to have this adopted before the next
[1:32:21] budget season, but can we say 30 days
after hiring but October at the latest?
[1:32:29] Is that reasonable? Unreasonable.
[1:32:37] » All right. Solutions. I love them. Um,
well, that's what I'm tracking so far.
[1:32:41] Are there other items? So in that case
we just have the resolution for the
[1:32:44] naming of splash pad codification
reopening that discussion. Are there
[1:32:48] other items?
>> It's possible that we would be we have
[1:32:52] the um folks with the um the formal
people that have submitted RFPs. It's
[1:32:58] possible they could
present
[1:33:02] » RFP presentation. Okay.
[1:33:07] » Are there other items for council
members? This is this is for the meeting
[1:33:10] in two weeks. I have one
about talking about a new HR firm.
[1:33:30] » All right.
[1:33:33] Say that again.
>> Yeah. Talking about a new HR firm. The
[1:33:38] possibility of bringing on a new HR
firm.
[1:33:42] Oh, okay. I didn't know we
>> don't have one.
[1:33:46] » We don't have one.
>> We have a staff member handling HR
[1:33:50] response.
>> Oh,
[1:33:52] generalist.
>> Yeah, HR generalist,
[1:33:54] » but we need a we need a new HR.
>> Okay.
[1:33:59] Anything else?
All right.
[1:34:02] » Elections, but I don't think we have
enough stuff next month. So,
[1:34:05] » yeah. So, elections is still on the
docket for later. uh in the fall. So now
[1:34:12] resolution for naming us playground a
splash bag codification RFP
[1:34:16] presentations new HR firm are the four
items that I have.
[1:34:22] All right.
>> I'm just [laughter]
[1:34:28] join.
[1:34:37] » I think probably in the near future we
really need to discuss like future
[1:34:42] annexations with the annexation plan. So
that may not go on the 28th. It's
[1:34:47] probably something for a work session.
But I think it's if we're going to
[1:34:51] continue to annex, which way are we
going? What do we do? We are we looking
[1:34:55] for population, business,
uh what are the issues that we should
[1:35:01] address that are affecting the resident
that are actually carrying out the
[1:35:05] public meeting and things like that.
>> I don't know if it'll be on the next
[1:35:09] agenda, but that's something I would
like you to add to the building agenda
[1:35:14] within the next few. Absolutely.
[1:35:20] Okay,
>> bigger and better.
[1:35:26] » Next item uh says motion to go into
close session. Does someone have a
[1:35:31] motion to go into close session?
>> Move
[1:35:35] like to move to go into close session
pursuant to Maryland annotated code
[1:35:39] general provisions article 3-305B1
subject of section
[1:35:48] Okay. of this subsection. The public
body may meet in close session to
[1:35:52] adjourn or an open session or close
session to consider the appointment,
[1:35:56] employment, assignment, promotion,
discipline, demotion, compensation,
[1:35:59] removal, resignation or performance the
valuation of appointee, employee or
[1:36:03] official over whom this has jurisdiction
or any other personnel matter that
[1:36:06] affects one or more specific
individuals.
[1:36:11] My motion. Is there a [snorts] second?
Second.
[1:36:18] to call the role. May
>> I'm going to pass and
[1:36:23] vice mayor
[1:36:27] motion to go into close session by this
right here.
[1:36:43] I
>> I
[1:36:46] council
>> I council member
[1:36:52] » I
[1:36:58] » This is to go into close session. Yeah,
>> I changed my vote.
[1:37:01] » Well, you're you're voting now. So, you
just made the
[1:37:04] » Oh, okay. I made the motion, but Yeah.
No.
[1:37:12] » Yes.
We have number 32. So we are now in
[1:37:16] close session again. We will not be
coming back into open session. So we're
[1:37:19] adjouring the open portion of the
meeting.
[1:37:22] » Okay.
>> Thank you all for coming.
[1:37:25] » Minutes. I'll be the I guess I'll be the
minute person and give me five minutes.
[1:37:30] » Y.
[1:37:34] » Yeah.
>> Yes.
[1:37:36] » Mr.
[1:37:40] would be worth having any of the council
members