1 00:00:28,960 --> 00:04:49,350 e e 2 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:54,160 okay welcome uh tonight is the um first 3 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,240 CIP committee meeting uh Monday December 4 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,720 2nd 2024 5 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,360 um I'm GNA ask uh Addison to call the 6 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:09,759 role Carberry Montgomery here bod here 7 00:05:09,759 --> 00:05:14,199 linhard Nicholas here 8 00:05:14,199 --> 00:05:16,160 Hilbert 9 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:21,560 penelli Butler here Graves here and Mr 10 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,520 hbr is absent at the 11 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,800 moment uh I'm going to start the meeting 12 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,720 as we start all of our meetings with uh 13 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,120 reading the character count statement 14 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:32,759 Urbandale is a national leader and 15 00:05:32,759 --> 00:05:34,639 character counts endeavoring at all 16 00:05:34,639 --> 00:05:36,319 times to promote and model the 17 00:05:36,319 --> 00:05:39,000 principles of trustworthiness respect 18 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,600 responsibility fairness caring and 19 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,800 citizenship in conducting tonight's 20 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,840 meeting we expect that all participants 21 00:05:45,840 --> 00:05:47,600 will act in a respectful manner 22 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,390 consistent with these 23 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,280 principles I am going to turn the 24 00:05:53,280 --> 00:05:55,680 meeting over now to our assistant city 25 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,560 manager Curtis 26 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,440 Brown who will uh give us an 27 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,520 introduction very good thank you council 28 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,600 member tonight I'm sitting in for our 29 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,800 city manager uh Aj Johnson during 30 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,080 tonight's meeting but first I want to 31 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,680 begin most importantly with the thank 32 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,280 yous uh to you council member car 33 00:06:14,280 --> 00:06:17,360 Montgomery council member bod uh to Lori 34 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,240 linhard representing the parks and recck 35 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,120 commission Jackie Nicholas representing 36 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:22,960 the plan and Zoning commission and 37 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,759 community members John hrand Rob Hilbert 38 00:06:25,759 --> 00:06:27,680 Dominic penelli Matthew Butler and 39 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,759 Daniel Graves we sincerely do from the 40 00:06:30,759 --> 00:06:32,960 staff perspective appreciate uh the work 41 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,120 of uh the elected officials and all the 42 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,160 community members who raised their hand 43 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,039 uh to help with these important 44 00:06:39,039 --> 00:06:41,880 processes uh as important internally 45 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,599 this document is the collective work of 46 00:06:43,599 --> 00:06:46,039 many Department directors and staff from 47 00:06:46,039 --> 00:06:48,039 engineering Caleb streepy wheeler 48 00:06:48,039 --> 00:06:50,599 Kristen broster and John lson from Parks 49 00:06:50,599 --> 00:06:52,680 and wreck Molly will height Scott Hawk 50 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,000 and Jan hery from the Police Department 51 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,680 chief Rob Johansson fire chief Mike 52 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,759 Cardwell risk management and support 53 00:06:59,759 --> 00:07:02,319 Services John Conor the water utilities 54 00:07:02,319 --> 00:07:04,479 general manager Neil Weiss city clerk 55 00:07:04,479 --> 00:07:06,560 Nicole lunders and the finance 56 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,000 department that takes all this 57 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,840 information and puts it together in a 58 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,199 presentation we can understand is Vivian 59 00:07:12,199 --> 00:07:14,960 Luna Addison rekus and Nikki 60 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,000 lamb this committee uh does represent 61 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,960 important perspectives in the Urbandale 62 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,879 community and in that way it serves the 63 00:07:22,879 --> 00:07:24,639 larger Urbandale community and helping 64 00:07:24,639 --> 00:07:26,840 to review and shape the physical 65 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,360 development of our community as laid out 66 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,319 in in this Capital Improvements plan so 67 00:07:31,319 --> 00:07:33,560 you serve a very important role here 68 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,240 Urbandale CIP process and the resulting 69 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,199 document is something that the city can 70 00:07:38,199 --> 00:07:41,520 justifiably be proud of it exemplifies 71 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,039 as you look at all the projects and the 72 00:07:43,039 --> 00:07:45,280 way it's done the city council's goals 73 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,360 of accountability collaboration 74 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,840 inclusive community quality of life 75 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,879 safety and sustainability in the way 76 00:07:51,879 --> 00:07:54,479 that it is compiled reviewed approved 77 00:07:54,479 --> 00:07:57,560 and shared the document is also uniquely 78 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,360 Urban Dale's own plans for major Capital 79 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,599 expenditures to advance our community 80 00:08:02,599 --> 00:08:04,479 and meet needs in 11 categories 81 00:08:04,479 --> 00:08:06,599 including public art which is a unique 82 00:08:06,599 --> 00:08:09,280 aspect of urban Dees program we have a 83 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,240 lot of work to do this evening so I will 84 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,199 simply end with uh three quick reminders 85 00:08:14,199 --> 00:08:16,400 one that tonight is for the CIP 86 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,240 committee to hear from the Departments 87 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,759 about the planed projects in the 88 00:08:19,759 --> 00:08:21,960 proposed program and for the to 89 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,639 committee to ask questions and if you so 90 00:08:24,639 --> 00:08:28,120 choose to propose amendments second that 91 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,080 the public will have opport unities to 92 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,560 express their views on the CIP in the 93 00:08:32,560 --> 00:08:34,760 public hearing on Monday December 16th 94 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,800 at 6m and then again when the city 95 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,519 council takes action to consider 96 00:08:39,519 --> 00:08:42,080 adopting the plan another public hearing 97 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,880 will be held on Tuesday January 21 and 98 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,920 finally a note to all that the topic for 99 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,519 consideration tonight is the projects 100 00:08:50,519 --> 00:08:53,000 themselves policy that relates to the 101 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,320 financing the method of construction 102 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,200 delivery Etc are all policy decisions of 103 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:59,480 the city council that will NE 104 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,880 necessarily come later as projects come 105 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,959 into clearer view in the CIP so without 106 00:09:04,959 --> 00:09:06,519 further Ado I'll turn it back to you 107 00:09:06,519 --> 00:09:10,240 madam chair thank you um I guess it is 108 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,120 now uh Nikki's turn to tell us all about 109 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,190 the 110 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,839 money mine will be very short the money 111 00:09:19,839 --> 00:09:23,480 is set and balanced how about that so 112 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,480 just a quick reminder of the types so 113 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,519 the document in front of you is balanced 114 00:09:27,519 --> 00:09:29,200 from a general obligation Bond and Tiff 115 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,760 Bond fing so those are our main Revenue 116 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,600 sources that that we're most concerned 117 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,920 about so those items are balanced um so 118 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,880 as you move through the the document 119 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,600 look at the types if you want something 120 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,519 that is to be moved around that is that 121 00:09:43,519 --> 00:09:45,920 is your option to do but the you need to 122 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,000 swap type for type so if it's a go and 123 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,000 you want to switch a year move it around 124 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,200 a little bit it needs to trade spots so 125 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,880 my funding bucket needs to stay 126 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,680 relatively level so that is the one 127 00:09:58,680 --> 00:10:00,360 reminder I give every year is you can 128 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,720 move it around but go is not the same as 129 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,720 storm water revenue or water revenue or 130 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,920 whatever the other types are those are 131 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,839 all a different think of it as a 132 00:10:08,839 --> 00:10:11,079 different checkbook I can't write checks 133 00:10:11,079 --> 00:10:12,440 from one thing to pay for something 134 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,120 that's not the same category does that 135 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,600 make sense um but otherwise this does 136 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,959 assume that our tax levy stays at $149 137 00:10:18,959 --> 00:10:21,240 for Debt Service um and so that'll be a 138 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:22,839 policy decision that goes through from a 139 00:10:22,839 --> 00:10:24,880 council perspective but that is what 140 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,000 this document incorporates do you have 141 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:31,310 any questions before we get started 142 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,279 okay that was pretty short and sweet I 143 00:10:33,279 --> 00:10:37,550 know we're we're efficient this 144 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:40,440 year I'm I'm not under any race with 145 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,560 Adam this year so we can take our time 146 00:10:43,560 --> 00:10:47,360 but you know we all want to get home so 147 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,040 uh we will go ahead and get started and 148 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:55,829 I believe our first department is public 149 00:10:55,839 --> 00:10:58,639 art and just oh just to clarify we are 150 00:10:58,639 --> 00:11:01,959 going to go through all of the sections 151 00:11:01,959 --> 00:11:03,639 um all the presentations from the 152 00:11:03,639 --> 00:11:07,279 department head heads and then we will 153 00:11:07,279 --> 00:11:12,519 go back and make changes recommendations 154 00:11:12,519 --> 00:11:15,399 discussion but if you have questions 155 00:11:15,399 --> 00:11:18,600 please ask them during I guess or 156 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,480 whenever but if you got a question about 157 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,120 public art go ahead and and ask it 158 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,670 during that 159 00:11:26,680 --> 00:11:30,680 time thank you C committe 160 00:11:30,680 --> 00:11:32,720 Jan hery Parks and Recreation director 161 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,240 for those few of you that I haven't met 162 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,480 before um the public art committee is 163 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,320 one of the Committees that I oversee as 164 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,000 the Parks and Recreation director we 165 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,839 have um CIP funding for years it was a 166 00:11:44,839 --> 00:11:48,040 percentage of um certain projects and 167 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,360 last year we started where the trends 168 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:54,240 had been since 2008 on average 169 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,839 $225,000 um for public art so that is 170 00:11:56,839 --> 00:12:01,160 what we are proposing again um is uh 171 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,920 $25,000 annually for public art that 172 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,560 does accumulate so if some years the 173 00:12:06,560 --> 00:12:08,360 public art committee does not recommend 174 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,760 spending um certain amounts um that does 175 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,639 accumulate um so be happy to answer any 176 00:12:15,639 --> 00:12:18,839 questions you have on public 177 00:12:18,839 --> 00:12:21,480 art it very much appears like John's 178 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,959 truck is in the picture in front of 179 00:12:23,959 --> 00:12:27,040 us John Hol Brand's truck that we 180 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,880 discussed oh if anyone else has noticed 181 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,160 that I just it just jumped out of 182 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,320 me and uh I didn't know what you were 183 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,519 saying yeah pretty sure that might be it 184 00:12:40,519 --> 00:12:44,680 that could be that could be 185 00:12:44,680 --> 00:12:47,880 um and I would just like to um thank Rob 186 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,680 Hilbert he serves on the chair of our 187 00:12:49,680 --> 00:12:52,120 public committee for many years so thank 188 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:56,189 you 189 00:12:56,199 --> 00:12:59,399 rob okay uh seeing no questions uh we 190 00:12:59,399 --> 00:13:12,829 will move on to 191 00:13:12,839 --> 00:13:14,639 buildings all right good evening 192 00:13:14,639 --> 00:13:16,600 everybody I'm John lson I'm the director 193 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,160 of engineering and public works I got 194 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:20,639 the Short Straw so I get to start with 195 00:13:20,639 --> 00:13:22,240 this first one on the building here for 196 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,560 the EVS it's not actually my 197 00:13:25,560 --> 00:13:28,079 page but this one here what we're 198 00:13:28,079 --> 00:13:31,000 proposing is looking at doing a couple 199 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,279 level two uh charging stations within 200 00:13:33,279 --> 00:13:37,079 the city hall library parking lot um 201 00:13:37,079 --> 00:13:39,720 it's part of of a of Grant application 202 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:40,880 so I think this is one we still got to 203 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,120 wait and see if it gets the grant 204 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:49,110 funding that's proposed in 205 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,320 2025 our next 206 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,629 page fire 207 00:13:56,639 --> 00:13:59,600 related so excuse me so we will we 208 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,000 actually own the charging stations or I 209 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,920 know sometimes you can lease them or um 210 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,519 which is a lot more lucrative sometimes 211 00:14:06,519 --> 00:14:08,120 as you don't have to update them it's 212 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,199 automatically updated through the vendor 213 00:14:10,199 --> 00:14:12,000 uh I believe it's ownership but I'm not 214 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:25,710 100% sure on that 215 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,360 okay you want to wait I think we should 216 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:41,269 wait 217 00:14:41,279 --> 00:14:44,710 we started without you 218 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,959 John but we're going to wait for you 219 00:14:46,959 --> 00:14:58,030 since you're here 220 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:44,949 now for 221 00:15:44,959 --> 00:15:47,279 John we are really just getting started 222 00:15:47,279 --> 00:15:51,199 we're on page four we've only heard uh 223 00:15:51,199 --> 00:15:54,399 about public art and the possibility of 224 00:15:54,399 --> 00:15:58,000 some electric charging stations so uh 225 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,839 we're just getting to the good 226 00:16:00,839 --> 00:16:03,319 stuff so if you want to go ahead Chief I 227 00:16:03,319 --> 00:16:06,720 think uh sure members of the committee 228 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,279 um if you're familiar to are with our 229 00:16:08,279 --> 00:16:10,880 oldest Fire Station 41 7100 Douglas you 230 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,199 recognize that it's been a main state of 231 00:16:13,199 --> 00:16:14,639 the city for a long time but it has 232 00:16:14,639 --> 00:16:17,000 reached end of life and the cost to fix 233 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,000 it and update it so it can meet the 234 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,240 needs of of a fully staffed station make 235 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:25,000 it uh not really uh feasible financially 236 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,759 to continue to put money into it so 237 00:16:26,759 --> 00:16:29,079 three years ago we started a study to 238 00:16:29,079 --> 00:16:31,000 identify based on area coverage where's 239 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,079 the best place to build a fire station 240 00:16:33,079 --> 00:16:35,160 should we decide to replace Fire Station 241 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,600 41 that location was identified 242 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,000 somewhere in the area of 86th and 243 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,199 Meredith and that's based on area 244 00:16:42,199 --> 00:16:45,399 coverage maps and things like that um 245 00:16:45,399 --> 00:16:46,720 what you have before you tonight is 246 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,680 simply to move Fire Station 41 247 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,560 replacement out of an oute where it has 248 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,240 been until this year and start moving 249 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,360 forward the progress we're recognizing 250 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:56,680 that we are going to need to have a plan 251 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,560 for eventually identifying the s 252 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,000 uh and then doing the work that we need 253 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,360 to uh how we're going to fund it and 254 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:04,720 then eventually building the building 255 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,160 and that's what we pretty much have 256 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,559 tonight we do not have a specific site 257 00:17:08,559 --> 00:17:10,480 we don't have a building plan we have a 258 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,600 general idea that we just need your 259 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,720 approval to continue to move it into the 260 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,959 CIP so that we can appropriately plan 261 00:17:17,959 --> 00:17:21,400 for the next few years and that's Fire 262 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:34,549 Station 41 pretty briefly 263 00:17:34,559 --> 00:17:36,480 thank you I'm very concerned about these 264 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,080 other all these other potential 265 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:40,679 locations 266 00:17:40,679 --> 00:17:45,240 about emergency vehicle exit and 267 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,559 returning I can just see almost any 268 00:17:48,559 --> 00:17:50,880 place I can imagine that we're going to 269 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:55,080 be confronted with a traffic jam in 270 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,799 rushar and I I guess I make the same 271 00:17:57,799 --> 00:17:59,679 comments when you get to the police 272 00:17:59,679 --> 00:18:01,120 station I think that 273 00:18:01,120 --> 00:18:03,720 needs careful review and I'm sure you 274 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,840 folks will 275 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,280 thanks thanks John I know that's a big 276 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,200 concern that I've brought up as we've 277 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,720 been discussing various uh possibilities 278 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,480 at the council level so um just know 279 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,360 that that is uh a major consideration 280 00:18:19,360 --> 00:18:22,080 for us and I know uh you guys want to 281 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,840 make sure you can get out as quickly as 282 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,880 possible so I know we had discussions 283 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,360 about different sites we have talked 284 00:18:28,360 --> 00:18:31,039 about access both going out and coming 285 00:18:31,039 --> 00:18:32,760 back and had conversations with 286 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,360 engineering about different 287 00:18:34,360 --> 00:18:35,919 opportunities for how we would have to 288 00:18:35,919 --> 00:18:37,840 make that happen but again right now 289 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,280 until we have an actual site uh which 290 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:41,960 has gone into the discussion as we've 291 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,240 looked at potential sites uh that has 292 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:45,720 been a very important part of the 293 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,400 discussion is that whole question as 294 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,760 well so and you know technology is also 295 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,720 our friend in that too with the ability 296 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,520 to uh change the lights or the traffic 297 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,360 signals in the in the vicinity of any 298 00:18:59,360 --> 00:19:01,360 location which I always seem to forget 299 00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:03,600 about that possibility we do have the 300 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,280 possibility but also the understanding 301 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,240 that most of the time uh when you see 302 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,240 fire apparatus ambulances leaving the 303 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,320 station they're not actually going out 304 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,600 emergent so most of the time um probably 305 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,679 about uh 55 60% of the time they're 306 00:19:17,679 --> 00:19:19,000 actually just going to wait for a break 307 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,120 in traffic before they go uh because it 308 00:19:21,120 --> 00:19:23,799 isn't truly an emergency call if it is 309 00:19:23,799 --> 00:19:25,440 an emergency then obviously we have the 310 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,039 ability to change the lights we have the 311 00:19:27,039 --> 00:19:29,400 ability to stop traffic um but we do try 312 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,760 to make sure that we're being aware of 313 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,000 the need to keep traffic moving 314 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,720 throughout the city and we are a partner 315 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,909 to that as 316 00:19:37,919 --> 00:19:40,480 well thank you you mentioned that this 317 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,360 was in an oute before um the the Fire 318 00:19:43,360 --> 00:19:46,320 Station 41 replacement in 42 Renovations 319 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,360 um what kind of triggered them to move 320 00:19:48,360 --> 00:19:50,280 forward from the out 321 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,039 years what's triggered the 41 and I'll 322 00:19:53,039 --> 00:19:55,320 get to 42 in a minute with triggered 41 323 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,280 is simply how it fits into a bigger 324 00:19:58,280 --> 00:19:59,520 picture one of the things that was 325 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,120 brought to my uh Direction last year was 326 00:20:03,120 --> 00:20:05,039 uh before we can move forward with oute 327 00:20:05,039 --> 00:20:06,880 with planning Station 41 we needed to 328 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,200 make sure that our partnership with 329 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,679 Clive is solid which we have spent the 330 00:20:10,679 --> 00:20:12,840 last year working on uh our agreements 331 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,840 with them to make sure that not only is 332 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,480 that partnership going to continue which 333 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,200 I think we saw a couple of weeks ago 334 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:19,200 that they are committed to the 335 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,120 partnership as well but also how any 336 00:20:22,120 --> 00:20:24,559 potential move of our sta of a station 337 00:20:24,559 --> 00:20:26,880 is going to reflect on our partners with 338 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,240 Clive which we've made sure are all 339 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,400 locked in down uh as we' moved forward 340 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,159 in this the other part it's just the U 341 00:20:33,159 --> 00:20:34,520 it's the advanced part of planning 342 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,120 making sure that we see how this fire 343 00:20:36,120 --> 00:20:38,360 station also fits into some of the other 344 00:20:38,360 --> 00:20:39,520 big projects you're going to hear a 345 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,640 little bit later about a police uh 346 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,159 building that we need to build and 347 00:20:43,159 --> 00:20:45,280 making sure that we're coordinating 348 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,120 those projects to make sure one doesn't 349 00:20:47,120 --> 00:20:48,679 step on the other or cause a problem for 350 00:20:48,679 --> 00:20:50,720 the other and that's the reason to kind 351 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,000 of move them both forward even though we 352 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,400 don't have property and we don't have a 353 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,000 plan at least we know how we're going to 354 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,200 coordinate the pieces over the next few 355 00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:59,400 years 356 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,559 so the funding for 25 is that just for 357 00:21:01,559 --> 00:21:04,919 site acquisition or is that for um it 358 00:21:04,919 --> 00:21:06,919 looks like it's kind of multi-year right 359 00:21:06,919 --> 00:21:09,840 you mean for 2026 for yeah yeah next 360 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,840 year yeah uh that's basically just for 361 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,200 initial design work that's assuming that 362 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,000 uh if we've AC acquired a piece of 363 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,400 property at some point over the next 364 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:19,960 year and a half then we could move 365 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,880 forward with starting that initial step 366 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:32,230 that initial process thank you 367 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,200 so moving on fire station 42 which is 368 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,960 our Administrative Building um one of 369 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,279 the things that we've done over the last 370 00:21:39,279 --> 00:21:40,840 year is to reassess our command 371 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,279 structure within the department which we 372 00:21:42,279 --> 00:21:44,159 have done and last year we added 373 00:21:44,159 --> 00:21:45,679 Battalion Chiefs that means that there 374 00:21:45,679 --> 00:21:49,080 is one chief officer on duty 365 days 375 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,240 which is something we definitely needed 376 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,240 um running three stations plus our 377 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,559 partnership with Clive so as part of 378 00:21:55,559 --> 00:21:57,559 that process we've identified that the 379 00:21:57,559 --> 00:22:00,960 building at uh on 121st Street uh does 380 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,360 need some updates to allow us to do that 381 00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:05,720 in addition uh we need to bring our fire 382 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,400 prevention staff from Station 41 which 383 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:09,760 is where they're by themselves we need 384 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,159 to bring them back over um so what we 385 00:22:12,159 --> 00:22:14,720 are proposing uh you'll notice is over a 386 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,360 series of five years in phases to do the 387 00:22:18,360 --> 00:22:20,039 internal upgrades to the building we're 388 00:22:20,039 --> 00:22:24,679 not talking about knocking walls down or adding additional space it's more a p 389 00:22:24,679 --> 00:22:26,679 question about reallocating space within 390 00:22:26,679 --> 00:22:28,840 the buildings uh and addressing some 391 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,640 frankly long-term needs of the building 392 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,360 there are some Plumbing issues that are 393 00:22:32,360 --> 00:22:33,799 going to need to be addressed in in the 394 00:22:33,799 --> 00:22:35,880 coming years there are some hbac the 395 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,000 building has reached it uh almost 396 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,880 reaching its 30-year life which is the 397 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,760 time when HVAC systems need to be 398 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,760 updated electrical stuff in the building 399 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,200 will need to be upgraded so this is all 400 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,039 just a part of planning to keep that 401 00:22:48,039 --> 00:22:50,279 building in really good condition uh so 402 00:22:50,279 --> 00:22:51,320 that it'll continue to serve the 403 00:22:51,320 --> 00:23:02,190 community 404 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,640 okay I think we're good all right then I 405 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:10,029 will H it back 406 00:23:10,039 --> 00:23:13,120 off okay our next one here is on page 407 00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:16,200 six you can see this is at 9401 Hickman 408 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,000 roads this is a parks and Public Works 409 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,760 facility that's just recently 410 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,000 constructed um next to it this was the 411 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,880 original fleet building that was 412 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,320 replaced by by the new building then 413 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,960 down here in this other blue box that is where the solid waste trucks were 414 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,120 parked that has now been moved into a 415 00:23:32,120 --> 00:23:35,559 new building here so what's being 416 00:23:35,559 --> 00:23:39,559 proposed right page here proposed uh for 417 00:23:39,559 --> 00:23:42,039 construction next year is this Fleet 418 00:23:42,039 --> 00:23:43,360 Maintenance building will have a new 419 00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:46,400 roof put on it um we did new siding on 420 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,480 it when we did the other building and 421 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,520 then this building here be a new roof 422 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,120 and new siding installed on it currently 423 00:23:54,120 --> 00:23:56,880 there's three garage doors on the East 424 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,600 and the West Side both sides here we're 425 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,200 going to go down to one on each side 426 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,840 since again it's a new purpose this will 427 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,440 be mainly a storage building no longer 428 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,159 housing the vehicles like it did in the 429 00:24:06,159 --> 00:24:09,120 past so again this one's under design 430 00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:10,480 and we're looking to bid that here in 431 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,510 the next few 432 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,919 months so next one is our police station 433 00:24:15,919 --> 00:24:28,870 replacement 434 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,440 everyone I have a short PowerPoint I'm 435 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,159 going to pull up just so I can remember 436 00:24:34,159 --> 00:24:36,640 to touch on everything 437 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,399 um for those that were here last year we 438 00:24:39,399 --> 00:24:42,159 talked about a new police facility just 439 00:24:42,159 --> 00:24:44,919 to recap what we talked about uh our 440 00:24:44,919 --> 00:24:47,320 original building was built in 441 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,080 1981 um we uh did an addition renovation 442 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,200 in 443 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:57,320 2009 currently the the facility is 444 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,440 23,800 there's an error on there it's 445 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,679 about 23,000 Square 446 00:25:01,679 --> 00:25:04,440 ft uh at the time we opened that uh 447 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,399 renovation addition onto the building um 448 00:25:08,399 --> 00:25:11,960 we filled it immediately so on in 2009 449 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,360 if you can just think back to that date 450 00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:15,600 how long ago that was we were full that 451 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,279 day um we had waited quite a while to do 452 00:25:18,279 --> 00:25:20,200 that addition so once we opened it we 453 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,440 filled it immediately since that time 454 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,279 we've added 14 sworn officers four 455 00:25:25,279 --> 00:25:27,840 administrative staff and three non- 456 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,919 Department members that are housed at 457 00:25:29,919 --> 00:25:33,360 our station So currently we are at 69 458 00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:37,120 full-time staff 10 volunteers and uh the 459 00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:38,559 still have the three non-department 460 00:25:38,559 --> 00:25:40,080 staff that we 461 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,559 house and then we we're talking about 462 00:25:42,559 --> 00:25:45,240 building this out so projected growth 463 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,200 over the next several years um on 464 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,480 average we need about one officer a year 465 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:52,840 with our current rate of growth in the 466 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,440 city of endale um we don't always get 467 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,279 that but that's what we try to project 468 00:25:57,279 --> 00:26:00,039 out is about one sworn officer position 469 00:26:00,039 --> 00:26:03,799 every year um we did a a space needs 470 00:26:03,799 --> 00:26:05,559 analysis and they determined that the 471 00:26:05,559 --> 00:26:07,760 current facility is not feasible to 472 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,279 expand the needs of the 473 00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:13,960 department uh new facility some of the 474 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,120 things that we really need to um look at 475 00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:18,760 and address with a new facility are 476 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,480 locker rooms we're currently out of 477 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,440 locker rooms so we have new officers 478 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,960 coming on the department we have no 479 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,600 Locker space for them at all um we're 480 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,399 looking to upgrade our emergency 481 00:26:30,399 --> 00:26:32,080 Operation Center right now we just use 482 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,399 the front conference room and that is 483 00:26:33,399 --> 00:26:35,480 for the whole city so the city of 484 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,559 Urbandale doesn't really have a 485 00:26:37,559 --> 00:26:40,720 Emergency Operations Center at this time 486 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:46,960 um our property evidence um crime lab is small um and it's not properly built 487 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,159 to house some of the um things that we 488 00:26:50,159 --> 00:26:52,600 house in there specifically drugs the 489 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,919 odors those types of things need to be 490 00:26:54,919 --> 00:26:57,080 uh addressed a little better than they 491 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,440 are right now we did put a vent in the 492 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,679 one room because the the smells were so 493 00:27:01,679 --> 00:27:04,559 bad that it helps but it's probably not 494 00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:08,320 up to Snuff to be honest with you um we 495 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,640 need some soft interview rooms um what 496 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,679 that really is for is victims of crime 497 00:27:13,679 --> 00:27:15,679 especially children when they come in 498 00:27:15,679 --> 00:27:20,799 and we have a a place for them to go that's look a 499 00:27:20,799 --> 00:27:22,679 little more relaxed a little more uh 500 00:27:22,679 --> 00:27:25,320 friendly environment so uh the children 501 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,440 feel comfortable and they can uh tell us 502 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,000 what happened to them we we uh have a 503 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,440 closet right now that we use for our 504 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,200 mothers and wellness room um for our 505 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,360 nursing mothers it's just not adequate 506 00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:40,960 for these times we do not have a fitness 507 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,360 area currently um so the new facility we 508 00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:45,840 would uh like to have a fitness area 509 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,440 built into that as 510 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,000 well secure parking lot for our 511 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,720 employees right now our current 512 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,240 facilities is not secured it's open for 513 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,840 access to anybody that happens to be 514 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,080 walking around our building 515 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,720 um and then secured covered parking for 516 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,559 our Fleet when we did the expansion in 517 00:28:03,559 --> 00:28:06,720 2009 we did add on a covered parking 518 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,120 area and we've outgrown that about half 519 00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:10,600 of our Fleet sits out in the back 520 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,559 parking lot 521 00:28:12,559 --> 00:28:15,760 uncovered um we need a training room 522 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,240 that has a defensive tactics area in 523 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,880 other words like a mat room so we can do 524 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,640 uh handcuffing techniques those types of 525 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,039 things defensive tactics and we we 526 00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:27,440 currently don't have an area for that we 527 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,279 have an range that was built in our 528 00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:30,960 original building in 529 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,320 1981 um it's a three lane range it's 530 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,039 fairly short all of the equipment that 531 00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:39,200 ran that range is outdated they no 532 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,440 longer make it we make do in there right 533 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,519 now um uh since we built the the 534 00:28:46,519 --> 00:28:48,720 original building the weapons that we 535 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:49,960 use and the police department have 536 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,080 changed dramatically um most of our 537 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,440 officers carry rifles now we are unable 538 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,039 to qualify or train with rifles in the 539 00:28:57,039 --> 00:28:58,919 current range it's just not big enough 540 00:28:58,919 --> 00:29:00,200 it can't handle 541 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,519 it um storage uh we do a lot of 542 00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:05,159 community events now that we never did 543 00:29:05,159 --> 00:29:09,720 in the past we have lots of stuff to to do that so if you've ever been to our 544 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,039 National Night Out or our Trunk or Treat 545 00:29:12,039 --> 00:29:13,799 we have lots of things that we use for 546 00:29:13,799 --> 00:29:15,279 those events and we really don't have 547 00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:17,919 anywhere to put them uh we'd also like 548 00:29:17,919 --> 00:29:20,080 to uh as part of the building project 549 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,440 have a large community room that we 550 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,919 could have open to the public that 551 00:29:22,919 --> 00:29:24,919 people could use come in and use at any 552 00:29:24,919 --> 00:29:27,799 time we don't have that currently and 553 00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:29,880 then uh we'd also like to incorporate a 554 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,120 lot of green initiatives into the 555 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,240 building design if we were able to move 556 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,679 forward um the city did acquire a piece 557 00:29:36,679 --> 00:29:39,840 of ground at 100th in Douglas it's not 558 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,799 specifically designated for the police 559 00:29:41,799 --> 00:29:44,159 department but we are looking at that as 560 00:29:44,159 --> 00:29:47,320 a potential site for a new new facility 561 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,640 I pull up this slide here it kind of 562 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,480 shows a little bit of how we could fit 563 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,880 the new facility in there um the blue 564 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,399 box that you see there that would be a 565 00:29:57,399 --> 00:29:59,640 twostory um police 566 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,120 structure the yellow would be the 567 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,799 parking lot The Orange Box over onto the 568 00:30:05,799 --> 00:30:09,080 left would be the new Range the kind of 569 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,640 lighter orange colored box up to the top 570 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,519 is a um secured parking area for staff 571 00:30:15,519 --> 00:30:17,320 and then the dark colored box would be 572 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,399 our covered parking area for 573 00:30:19,399 --> 00:30:22,880 Fleet that's just roughly fitting it in 574 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,519 there just to make sure that it's 575 00:30:24,519 --> 00:30:26,519 adequate for that space if we wanted to 576 00:30:26,519 --> 00:30:29,320 move forward there 577 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,919 the new facility when they did the space 578 00:30:30,919 --> 00:30:34,080 needs analysis they indicated that we 579 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,720 need approximately 74,000 square feet 580 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,279 including the covered parking the 581 00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:40,760 covered parking I believe from that 582 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,039 estimate was about 12,000 square fet of 583 00:30:44,039 --> 00:30:47,919 that the estimate on the cost was 47 584 00:30:47,919 --> 00:30:50,519 million um you see an alternative solar 585 00:30:50,519 --> 00:30:54,080 array there for 2.3 million um that was 586 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,600 if we built the facility in 2025 that 47 587 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:58,440 so 588 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,760 figure a 5 perish increase each year as 589 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,519 it goes out so the projected cost is 590 00:31:04,519 --> 00:31:09,519 about 53 million do for 2028 591 00:31:09,519 --> 00:31:12,720 construction that's big that's a lot to 592 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,760 throw you guys any questions what's 593 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,279 your price per square foot that's I like 594 00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:23,840 over 600 bucks a square foot right yeah 595 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,679 something similar to that yeah I was 596 00:31:25,679 --> 00:31:26,919 going to say 500 and something I 597 00:31:26,919 --> 00:31:29,000 couldn't remember off the top top of my 598 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,799 head yeah I was G to ask the same 599 00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:32,120 question I'm assuming you had some 600 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,799 Consultants help you develop that cost 601 00:31:33,799 --> 00:31:37,000 OPN did the the space needs analysis and 602 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,799 came up with the size the cost estimate 603 00:31:39,799 --> 00:31:42,440 and construction estimate for the 604 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,120 project yep yeah it's that's expensive 605 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,240 per square foot it's a big number yeah 606 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,320 so is the 74,000 square foot estimate is 607 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,840 that you mentioned it was cover your 608 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,679 existing capacity but also anticipated 609 00:31:56,679 --> 00:31:59,399 like how far out antici ated capacity is 610 00:31:59,399 --> 00:32:00,799 it is it going to cover you in 10 years 611 00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:03,519 and 20 years I think it covers out 20 612 00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:11,269 years projected growth for 20 613 00:32:11,279 --> 00:32:16,760 years could you pull up the map one 614 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:21,159 again so is the range attached to the 615 00:32:21,159 --> 00:32:22,799 building I guess I don't know if I've if 616 00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:24,639 I have not seen this and didn't pay 617 00:32:24,639 --> 00:32:26,639 attention if I did they've done it a 618 00:32:26,639 --> 00:32:29,200 couple different ways uh the initial 619 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,399 design when we were thinking about 620 00:32:30,399 --> 00:32:34,840 putting it over on the initial on our site that we're at now they had an 621 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,559 option where it could be detached or 622 00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:39,039 attached okay um this would be attached 623 00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:40,600 I think the best way to do it is to be 624 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,279 attached but again this was just kind of 625 00:32:43,279 --> 00:32:45,080 putting all the pieces of the puzzle on 626 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,240 there not necessarily how it would lay 627 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,320 out for sure there's another design 628 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,679 where the parking lot's in the front of 629 00:32:50,679 --> 00:32:53,559 the building and all that so but yes I 630 00:32:53,559 --> 00:32:55,480 would like to see the range attached to 631 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,200 the building rather than Separate Myself 632 00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,760 but it all depends on how it would fit 633 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,880 on whatever site we end up at okay thank 634 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,200 you I I have two unrelated questions 635 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,760 could you tell us a little bit more 636 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,279 about the use of the large community 637 00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:11,760 room and then my second question is 638 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,919 could you speak to the importance of the 639 00:33:14,919 --> 00:33:17,360 features you have here for Recruitment 640 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,760 and Retention of officers sure uh the 641 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,639 community room I see that the example I 642 00:33:23,639 --> 00:33:25,919 would give you is if you've been to the 643 00:33:25,919 --> 00:33:28,519 new P County Sheriff's uh office office 644 00:33:28,519 --> 00:33:30,519 they have a really nice large community 645 00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:32,080 room at at the front side of their 646 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,080 building that's open for the public to 647 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,960 use for events or or or anything that 648 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,159 community that needed that space for 649 00:33:40,159 --> 00:33:41,679 what we currently have we have a small 650 00:33:41,679 --> 00:33:43,120 training room in the back of our 651 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,240 facility so if someone comes to our 652 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,799 place they have to walk through our 653 00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:48,440 secure area of our Police Department to 654 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,840 get back to that area the designs I've 655 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,279 seen that work the best or those 656 00:33:52,279 --> 00:33:54,159 Community rooms are right off the lobby 657 00:33:54,159 --> 00:33:55,559 of the building you know in the front of 658 00:33:55,559 --> 00:33:57,159 the building when people can come in and 659 00:33:57,159 --> 00:33:59,799 utilize that so that would be the one 660 00:33:59,799 --> 00:34:03,480 aspect um as far as the amenities to 661 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,240 attract officers there's been a lot of 662 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,000 uh police department and this is not a 663 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,320 reason to build a police department 664 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,800 obviously but this is one of the things 665 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,679 that we consider it's been very hard to 666 00:34:12,679 --> 00:34:15,040 hire police officers recently uh since 667 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,119 about 2020 we've struggled um to hire 668 00:34:18,119 --> 00:34:20,320 police officers and this is a nationwide 669 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,720 problem um so one of the things we're 670 00:34:22,720 --> 00:34:24,000 seeing in the Metro there's been a lot 671 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,079 of new facilities built Clive I can just 672 00:34:27,079 --> 00:34:30,119 Clive County Altuna whiley's building 673 00:34:30,119 --> 00:34:34,639 one now um Bond Durant no not bant sorry 674 00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:36,560 um they all have new facilities and they 675 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,000 all have all the amenities they have 676 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,839 workout facilities they have really nice 677 00:34:39,839 --> 00:34:42,399 locker rooms with big lockers that can 678 00:34:42,399 --> 00:34:44,159 hold all the gear for the officers have 679 00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:47,520 nice shower facilities things like that 680 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,119 um they have covered parking for their 681 00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:50,919 Fleet so they're not out in the weather 682 00:34:50,919 --> 00:34:53,000 with their Fleet they have secure area 683 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,800 for their vehicles for their employees 684 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,839 vehicles to park those kind of things 685 00:34:56,839 --> 00:34:58,200 that's the kind of things you compete 686 00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,640 with when you're trying to hire an 687 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:00,839 officer and they can go anywhere they 688 00:35:00,839 --> 00:35:03,040 want when you have a really good 689 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,359 applicant right now in this environment 690 00:35:05,359 --> 00:35:06,680 they can go work for any police 691 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,960 department they want to in the Metro and 692 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,640 we all pay about the same we all have 693 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,800 about the same type of benefits and 694 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,880 those types of things so start looking 695 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,079 at where do I go to work every day and 696 00:35:18,079 --> 00:35:20,040 we can't compete with that right now 697 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,320 with some of the newer facilities so 698 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,440 that that is a thought for us but that's 699 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,320 just one little p tiny piece of the 700 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,280 puzzle 701 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,560 thanks what are the plans for the former 702 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,400 station it's kind of nice where it's at 703 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,760 now in this administrative area is that 704 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,520 GNA continue to be an administrative 705 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,440 building yes I think there's been a lot 706 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,480 of hands raised for for we put this in 707 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,400 there and that I've heard and this is 708 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,000 just totally this is just here say 709 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:52,720 Senior Center uh social services that the city's 710 00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:54,240 talking about getting into more Social 711 00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:56,640 Services type activities those types of 712 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,160 things uh Park and wreck has some other 713 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,800 uh programming that they'd like to do in 714 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,160 there for classes and things so I don't 715 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,240 think it will go unused at all and it is 716 00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:07,040 a decent building we've just simply 717 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,400 outgrown it it has some older parts to 718 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,880 it and that thing you know that would 719 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,359 need to be addressed but uh it functions 720 00:36:13,359 --> 00:36:14,920 every obviously it functions every day 721 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,599 and we work out of there and and it's 722 00:36:16,599 --> 00:36:19,000 been a good facility for us we've just 723 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,839 simply outgrown it and it's just not 724 00:36:20,839 --> 00:36:24,520 functioning as high standard as we'd 725 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,760 like so with the fire stations they 726 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,200 talked about the location effect on 727 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,319 response time um would it be like a 728 00:36:30,319 --> 00:36:34,200 study uh on this location or we we 729 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,599 operate a lot different than the fire 730 00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:37,960 department we send our people out now 731 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:38,960 obviously you want to be kind of 732 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,440 centered in the city and honestly moving 733 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,319 a little bit further west gets us a 734 00:36:43,319 --> 00:36:45,480 little closer to that Center probably 735 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,599 but we are out in our areas working out 736 00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:50,280 of our cars so we don't necessarily 737 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,920 respond from the station so it's less of 738 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,880 a concern for us where we're at um I 739 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,119 wouldn't want to be on one clear on one 740 00:36:58,119 --> 00:36:59,599 side of the city as opposed to the other 741 00:36:59,599 --> 00:37:01,359 because sometimes you do respond from 742 00:37:01,359 --> 00:37:03,040 there and you have to have to get 743 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,960 somewhere and you know just coming back 744 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,560 to that home base but that area and even 745 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,800 right here is ideal for us to be there 746 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,440 because we just put our cars out in the 747 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:13,839 areas and they stay out there most of 748 00:37:13,839 --> 00:37:17,109 the 749 00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:19,720 day would you go over this colored map 750 00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:22,520 again and show tell me what's under roof 751 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,800 and what's not under roof okay so the so 752 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,240 the blue is the two story that would be 753 00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:31,240 the main facility okay two stories yep 754 00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:33,040 twostory got to be 755 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,839 twostory to to facilitate the square 756 00:37:35,839 --> 00:37:38,560 footage needs the dark Square there that 757 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,440 would be the covered 758 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,520 parking uh for the 759 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,920 fleet the light orange would be uh that 760 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,400 would just be open air parking for staff 761 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,000 but it would be fenced 762 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,680 in and then the yellow is just a parking 763 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,319 lot for the public and then the dark 764 00:37:55,319 --> 00:37:57,040 orange clear to the left that would be 765 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,000 the rain and that would be under roof 766 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,839 obviously again those are probably going 767 00:38:01,839 --> 00:38:05,599 to get moved around like uh Bridget's 768 00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:07,359 talked about connecting that to the 769 00:38:07,359 --> 00:38:09,119 building so we'll probably move that 770 00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:11,079 where those are those facilities are 771 00:38:11,079 --> 00:38:13,800 together just hadn't designed just 772 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,440 piecing it in there to make sure we got 773 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,520 enough uh in the lot there to be able to 774 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:19,400 handle 775 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,240 it my understanding is then the the 776 00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:27,839 yellow and the brown are parking the 777 00:38:27,839 --> 00:38:30,319 yellow and the light orange okay the 778 00:38:30,319 --> 00:38:31,920 yellow and the light orange so that one 779 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,680 hole strip there would be parking either 780 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,760 staff parking or public parking now are 781 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,839 either one of them under roof 782 00:38:41,839 --> 00:38:44,079 no that's the dark brown right the 783 00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:49,750 covered Fleet the the dark brown is the 784 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,440 fleet there I got it on there this is 785 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,640 the fleet covered parking on this 786 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,079 diagram here this is the two-story 787 00:38:57,079 --> 00:38:57,960 building 788 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,680 Fleet parking open air staff parking 789 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,160 fenced in public 790 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,069 parking 791 00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:11,319 range how much demand do you have for 792 00:39:11,319 --> 00:39:14,200 public parking especially if you did not 793 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,240 have um a community 794 00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:20,280 broom not as big as the spot shows on 795 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,480 here probably okay uh right now we share 796 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,599 our parking lot with uh um we have a 797 00:39:26,599 --> 00:39:28,560 little bit of spill over from the water 798 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,079 department and then some of the other 799 00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:31,839 City staff park over there occasionally 800 00:39:31,839 --> 00:39:33,760 on the one end as well and then we 801 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,920 obviously have parking for the park and 802 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,560 the soccer fields there that people 803 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,119 utilize but no we don't have that big a 804 00:39:40,119 --> 00:39:42,960 need for parking uh for us with the 805 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,119 community room that would make a 806 00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:47,359 difference okay I think a lot of that 807 00:39:47,359 --> 00:39:49,280 will get vetted in the design um when 808 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,599 you say green initiatives are you just 809 00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:53,079 talking about the solar panels or is 810 00:39:53,079 --> 00:39:55,000 there other things that you're putting 811 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,480 in here for I would like to do whatever 812 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,000 feasible to make the building you know 813 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,240 carbon neutral um those things would 814 00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:04,280 have to be explored obviously have a 815 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:05,720 price tag to them you see the solar 816 00:40:05,720 --> 00:40:09,400 array they estimated at 2.3 mil so yeah 817 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,040 whatever uh we can do there to make I 818 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,440 think it's an opportunity for the city 819 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,240 um I know that there's interest in that 820 00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:18,680 from the council um to be 821 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,880 environmentally conscious and I think 822 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,400 this is an opportunity with a brand new 823 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,839 building to to set the example if we 824 00:40:24,839 --> 00:40:29,190 wanted to 825 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,599 very important questions would you uh 826 00:40:32,599 --> 00:40:36,240 consider having uh National Night Out 827 00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:39,839 here or would you keep it here I think 828 00:40:39,839 --> 00:40:42,800 we keep it down here just with the field 829 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,640 open field and the helicopter that we 830 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,200 bring in and all the little things that 831 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,720 we do I think we keep it down 832 00:40:49,720 --> 00:40:52,920 here that definitely decreases the need 833 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:58,829 for space there right 834 00:40:58,839 --> 00:41:02,319 now the 74,000 foot figure that just 835 00:41:02,319 --> 00:41:07,720 applies to the light blue on your 836 00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:10,200 diagram light blue and the dark Square 837 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,560 above it so the fleet that that is also 838 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,160 en includes the fleet covered parking 839 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,000 the 840 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,000 74,000 the estimate in the uh space 841 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,359 needs analysis was 12,000 Square ft for 842 00:41:25,359 --> 00:41:27,440 Fleet parking and that's that dark 843 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,599 Square okay that's under roof that's 844 00:41:29,599 --> 00:41:32,800 under roof is it enclosed or just under 845 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:37,430 roof enclosed is what it's projected to 846 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,880 be and of course the shooting range is 847 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,520 enclosed also that's correct that's part 848 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:44,760 of the 849 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,880 74,000 now say again what the estimated 850 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,040 cost per square foot was I don't have it 851 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,200 right in front of me it's around it's 852 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,599 the high 853 00:41:54,599 --> 00:41:58,240 500s I I just did some math on 854 00:41:58,240 --> 00:42:01,640 that it was $716 a square foot if you're 855 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,960 looking at it the 53 million divided by 856 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,520 74k square 857 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,040 feet when the original estimate for 47 I 858 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,400 think that's probably when it was in the 859 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,280 500 but now we're waiting and we're 860 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,720 waiting for four years from when we did 861 00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:19,079 the assessment and the price goes up 862 00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:21,920 every year about 5% is what she uh from 863 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,839 OPN what Danielle told 864 00:42:23,839 --> 00:42:26,520 me this seemed like an awful High number 865 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,480 to me oh that's really really bothered 866 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,680 me any what are these other police 867 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:34,920 stations that have been built what are 868 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,720 they running for square foot I believe 869 00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:40,599 right around that 500 square $500 a 870 00:42:40,599 --> 00:42:42,599 square 871 00:42:42,599 --> 00:42:44,720 foot I know there's a lot of special 872 00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:46,720 stuff in the police station that just 873 00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:58,109 kind of bothered me a little bit 874 00:42:58,119 --> 00:42:59,880 so so there's an open field right next 875 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,079 to the existing police station is that 876 00:43:02,079 --> 00:43:05,280 not an option to expand in that area or 877 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,839 the field to the west of us is in the 878 00:43:06,839 --> 00:43:09,160 flood plane that soccer field down there 879 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,960 yeah we can only go out a little bit 880 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,680 this this building all of this will fit 881 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,640 on our existing site the problem is you 882 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,800 have to tear down and you'd have to tear 883 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,880 down a pretty good building and then you 884 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,160 would have to move us somewhere for 18 885 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,079 months to two years they estimated that 886 00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:27,119 to be about just about $2 million just 887 00:43:27,119 --> 00:43:29,000 to rent out something to hous us for a 888 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,319 couple years so after we got to looking 889 00:43:31,319 --> 00:43:32,960 at it a little closer we thought it was 890 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,599 pretty wasteful honestly to tear down a 891 00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:38,280 decent building and then spending that 892 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,480 money to houses somewhere that you're 893 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,430 not going to obviously get 894 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:49,200 back yes this this same boxes will all 895 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,400 fit on that current site that we have 896 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,920 it's a little tighter but it will fit in 897 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,589 there 898 00:43:57,599 --> 00:44:00,920 well thank you Chief uh we will move on 899 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,640 to the everpresent public works 900 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,829 satellite 901 00:44:06,839 --> 00:44:09,200 facility it's always tough to top the 902 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:14,069 police 903 00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:16,880 station okay so now we're on on page 904 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,359 eight so yeah this is our satellite 905 00:44:19,359 --> 00:44:22,079 facility out west so we had 170th Street 906 00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:23,839 here Waterford road so we're in the 907 00:44:23,839 --> 00:44:26,160 northeast corner of that intersection uh 908 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,480 it's been a multi project so here in the 909 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,599 middle first we constructed a fuel 910 00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:33,040 Island out here then we constructed a 911 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,640 storage and break room facility here 912 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,280 it's not in the area yet but we just 913 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,079 constructed a salt storage building here 914 00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:41,960 so the next phase we were looking at was 915 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,200 to PVE some more of the parking lot and 916 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,599 then create some material bunker storage 917 00:44:46,599 --> 00:44:48,359 we just kind of re-evaluated how we were 918 00:44:48,359 --> 00:44:49,800 doing things and it was originally in 919 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,359 for 2025 it's not something we need 920 00:44:52,359 --> 00:44:55,040 right now so we pushed it back to 2028 921 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,680 we'll continue to evaluate and see if we 922 00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,880 need it come closer to 28 if not we'll 923 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:01,640 just continue to slide it until we do 924 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,670 need need the 925 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,319 facilities so what is a materials bunker 926 00:45:08,319 --> 00:45:11,400 it's basically concrete walls on three 927 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,000 sides of the roof that you put your rock 928 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,160 in put your B in just we have that 929 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,640 currently at our Hickman SES working and 930 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,400 we don't right now have a huge need for 931 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,000 large storage of materials out 932 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,040 west what's the one I thought what we 933 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,240 had that's not on the aerial was that's 934 00:45:27,240 --> 00:45:29,359 salt oh just for salt yep that's only 935 00:45:29,359 --> 00:45:31,520 for salt so that that is something we 936 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,640 use quite a bit again during winter 937 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,160 storms it's difficult to get back down 938 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,760 to Hickman to reload with the salt 939 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,680 versus if you're out west you got the 940 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,040 facility here to use same thing with the 941 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,319 fuel 942 00:45:43,319 --> 00:45:46,440 Island that Circle there that that is 943 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,240 the water tower is that right that's 944 00:45:49,240 --> 00:45:51,240 just marking the location the water 945 00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:53,000 tower is actually further to the South 946 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:57,720 here it is right down here oh 947 00:45:57,720 --> 00:46:00,960 so bounce out a little bit you can see 948 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,960 the water tower here we're up here at 949 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,440 170th in Waterford I should have known 950 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,160 that okay beg your 951 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,000 Parton I appreciate you pushing it out 952 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,319 until when you thought you'd actually 953 00:46:13,319 --> 00:46:16,829 need it so 954 00:46:16,839 --> 00:46:20,680 it's our next one is on page nine so 955 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,760 this is 10841 Douglas Avenue so that is 956 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,599 just to the northeast of 109th and 957 00:46:26,599 --> 00:46:27,599 Douglas 958 00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:30,319 this is the former con Lodge um the city 959 00:46:30,319 --> 00:46:32,839 has purchased this property um we did an 960 00:46:32,839 --> 00:46:34,800 asbest review which showed there was 961 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,599 some asbest we'll need to take care of 962 00:46:36,599 --> 00:46:38,200 and then our intent is to demo the 963 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,640 building and then again there's other 964 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,200 options for the property once that's 965 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,200 done but our intent is to get that bid 966 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,280 out in the January February time frame 967 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,680 and have it tore down by you know 968 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,200 summertime so that we can move on with other City initiatives with the 969 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:58,190 property 970 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,720 that does wrap up building section so 971 00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:03,240 are they going to be City buildings on 972 00:47:03,240 --> 00:47:04,520 this lot in the future is that what 973 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,240 you're saying no no it'll likely likely 974 00:47:07,240 --> 00:47:09,640 be sold or a partnership for some 975 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,319 different type of possibly housing so 976 00:47:12,319 --> 00:47:13,920 have we asked is there any interest for 977 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,200 a developer to look at that and tear 978 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,160 down the buildings at their cost 979 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,800 or um I guess right now that hasn't been 980 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:27,630 the council's direction go that way okay 981 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,040 I did have a question for you that was 982 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,839 just back a couple of pages the uh parks 983 00:47:31,839 --> 00:47:33,880 and Public Works storage building for 984 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,359 the roof and the 985 00:47:35,359 --> 00:47:37,640 sighting are you is that going to be 986 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,240 something that's bid out it seems like a 987 00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:40,680 very high number for roofing and 988 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,559 sighting so it will it will be bid out 989 00:47:42,559 --> 00:47:45,440 we have an architect hired now doing the 990 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,760 design y thank 991 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,280 you and keep in mind again we're not 992 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,480 pricing these to be exactly what the 993 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,319 bids come in we always try to have some 994 00:47:56,319 --> 00:47:58,319 cushion so that if you do get higher 995 00:47:58,319 --> 00:48:01,680 bids everything balances 996 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,200 out sorry on the on the 997 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:08,280 demolition when a a business leaves a 998 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,599 property with hazardous material that 999 00:48:11,599 --> 00:48:13,400 they they're not liable for clean up the 1000 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,520 city's liable for that based on the 1001 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,440 agreement we negotiated with them it's 1002 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,000 the city's 1003 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:24,309 responsibility 1004 00:48:24,319 --> 00:48:27,319 okay thats up the buildings 1005 00:48:27,319 --> 00:48:28,240 next 1006 00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:30,720 one major 1007 00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:32,900 equipment or the fire department 1008 00:48:32,900 --> 00:48:45,069 [Laughter] 1009 00:48:45,079 --> 00:48:47,800 section okay so this first one that we 1010 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,559 have here and I come bearing good 1011 00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:53,079 news where it says uh fire truck 1012 00:48:53,079 --> 00:48:55,880 replacement in our current CIP we have 1013 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,559 1.8 million 1014 00:48:57,559 --> 00:48:59,599 uh to replace a ladder truck all both of 1015 00:48:59,599 --> 00:49:02,040 our ladder trucks uh have reached end of 1016 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,839 life we've replaced one that was just 1017 00:49:03,839 --> 00:49:06,119 pushed into the station two weeks ago 1018 00:49:06,119 --> 00:49:07,640 you haven't seen the pictures of that 1019 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,079 it's worth it it's literally pushing it 1020 00:49:11,079 --> 00:49:14,040 into the station pushing it in so as 1021 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,559 part of our agreements with Clive we 1022 00:49:15,559 --> 00:49:17,960 explored the opportunity why can't we 1023 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,240 just flop trucks because we're going to 1024 00:49:20,240 --> 00:49:22,040 run the ladder truck primarily into the 1025 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,200 cover in the City of Clive and so we 1026 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,400 said let's just see what we can do so 1027 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,720 rather than spend the $1.8 million which 1028 00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:31,799 the CIP currently allocates to buy a 1029 00:49:31,799 --> 00:49:34,079 second ladder truck we explored the 1030 00:49:34,079 --> 00:49:35,760 opportunity uh which has now been 1031 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,280 through all the different iterations 1032 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,720 that says let's just buy Clive's truck 1033 00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:41,720 and sell them our spare engine and then 1034 00:49:41,720 --> 00:49:44,040 we can share them as needed so that's 1035 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,520 what this is actually doing here where 1036 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:46,520 it says 1037 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:50,799 $297,500 in next year's CIP that is what 1038 00:49:50,799 --> 00:49:52,880 the difference in value between the two 1039 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,359 trucks has been appraised at so we would 1040 00:49:55,359 --> 00:49:59,280 buy their truck for for roughly 700 and 1041 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,480 it's off the top of my head but roughly 1042 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,520 $770,000 they would buy our truck at 400 1043 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,280 and something thousand so basically the 1044 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,520 difference is about $300,000 which is 1045 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,480 what we're asking for and if we are able 1046 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,920 to finalize that deal then which we 1047 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,119 cannot do until the money is 1048 00:50:16,119 --> 00:50:18,480 appropriated then uh we would not have 1049 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,520 to spend the $1.8 million on the other 1050 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,160 ladder truck because their ladder truck 1051 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,640 is only 10 years old and has an expected 1052 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,160 life of another 8 to 10 years so that's 1053 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,960 what we are doing with this particular 1054 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,000 piece again it's building on our 1055 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:33,680 partnership and and attempting to really 1056 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,799 be good stewards of the Public's money 1057 00:50:35,799 --> 00:50:38,319 so that's what we're trying to do there 1058 00:50:38,319 --> 00:50:41,000 so and by the way the arrangement we're 1059 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,400 working out with Clive is that actually 1060 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,480 we will still have access to our engine 1061 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,599 our former engine so that if we needed 1062 00:50:46,599 --> 00:50:48,839 to borrow one we would be able to do 1063 00:50:48,839 --> 00:50:50,440 which is something we already can do now 1064 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,480 so again trying to save the taxpayers 1065 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,839 money and and be the most efficient use 1066 00:50:55,839 --> 00:50:58,280 especially these Reserve resources that 1067 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,240 you don't need every single day and 1068 00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:02,119 these new trucks are getting very very 1069 00:51:02,119 --> 00:51:04,760 expensive so trying to keep that going 1070 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,160 and they take a really long time to 1071 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,599 build they do take a very long time to 1072 00:51:08,599 --> 00:51:10,839 build yes the current replacement 1073 00:51:10,839 --> 00:51:13,200 estimate on a new ladder truck is almost 1074 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,720 up to four years 1075 00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:16,599 now 1076 00:51:16,599 --> 00:51:18,880 so there's that so we got to start 1077 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,720 planning what in a couple of years for 1078 00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:24,280 the 10e uh truck well we actually have 1079 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,359 marked that out again as we move forward 1080 00:51:26,359 --> 00:51:27,760 with Clive and our partnership we've 1081 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,640 agreed as to replacement schedules for 1082 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,839 all of our apparatus so that we can 1083 00:51:31,839 --> 00:51:33,640 accurately and allow you to plan 1084 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,319 effectively for these bigger 1085 00:51:35,319 --> 00:51:37,400 purchases well I don't think we can say 1086 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:38,960 enough about the value of that 1087 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,559 partnership and all of the work that uh 1088 00:51:41,559 --> 00:51:43,280 the both departments have put in and the 1089 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,839 finance department and everyone um to to 1090 00:51:46,839 --> 00:51:51,559 be such good stewards of of our taxpayer 1091 00:51:51,559 --> 00:51:55,079 dollars I agree that's great great 1092 00:51:55,079 --> 00:51:58,200 thinking yes we're trying 1093 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,839 so the next one is already uh in program 1094 00:52:00,839 --> 00:52:03,720 for next year um the scbas which 1095 00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:05,280 self-contained breathing apparatus those 1096 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,440 are the tanks we were on our back they 1097 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,319 have a hard lifespan of 15 years after 1098 00:52:10,319 --> 00:52:12,359 15 years you can't get them tested you 1099 00:52:12,359 --> 00:52:14,119 can't work on them anymore you basically 1100 00:52:14,119 --> 00:52:17,160 have to buy new ones so uh we have 1101 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:18,799 reached our end of life on our current 1102 00:52:18,799 --> 00:52:22,119 packs and have been uh planning for this 1103 00:52:22,119 --> 00:52:23,640 replacement we've been looking at 1104 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:24,799 different packs about how we need to 1105 00:52:24,799 --> 00:52:26,880 move forward we are still in that same 1106 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,760 number uh so we don't need to make any 1107 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,920 adjustments to the number the plan is to 1108 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,119 replace those uh in in the summer and 1109 00:52:33,119 --> 00:52:36,400 fall of next year in the 26 fiscal 1110 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,720 year and then the third one we have uh 1111 00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:42,640 the fire tender um for those of you not 1112 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,079 familiar with the project a tender is a 1113 00:52:45,079 --> 00:52:48,760 truck that hauls water and the um reason 1114 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,880 that it's in here and it's not programed 1115 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,599 is that it is simply a statement that as 1116 00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:55,960 Council has explored the possibility of 1117 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,160 annexing future growth into the Western 1118 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,520 area we have identified that some of the 1119 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,160 areas that they have considered annexing 1120 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,839 in the past do not have any hydrants and 1121 00:53:04,839 --> 00:53:06,799 if we were to Annex that area and be 1122 00:53:06,799 --> 00:53:08,880 responsible for fire protection we would 1123 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,440 need to have an ability to at least on a 1124 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,200 temporary basis be able to bring our own 1125 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,119 water with us so that's the cost the in 1126 00:53:17,119 --> 00:53:19,520 today's dollars of what a tanker or I'm 1127 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,520 sorry a tender would cost um we have no 1128 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,799 immediate needs to buy one we just have 1129 00:53:24,799 --> 00:53:27,280 it standing by in the so that you can 1130 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,720 see and Council especially can see as 1131 00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:31,960 they consider annexation plans what that 1132 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,640 would need to what we would need to do 1133 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,079 and answer to the question next is what 1134 00:53:37,079 --> 00:53:38,640 about building a new fire station and 1135 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,839 the answer is we do not anticipate 1136 00:53:40,839 --> 00:53:42,920 needing another fire station even with 1137 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,000 the proposed annexations for 1138 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,319 approximately the next 25 years uh 1139 00:53:47,319 --> 00:53:48,760 basically until we get all the way out 1140 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,440 to Dallas Center if that annexation were 1141 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:52,839 to occur that's the point at which we 1142 00:53:52,839 --> 00:53:54,440 would need to think about adding another 1143 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,799 station otherwise where we Loc located 1144 00:53:56,799 --> 00:53:59,440 Station 43 will meet our expansion needs 1145 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,640 for the next 20 to 25 years including 1146 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:08,230 possible 1147 00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:11,240 annexations and that covers equipment 1148 00:54:11,240 --> 00:54:13,240 you have all the answers it's good we 1149 00:54:13,240 --> 00:54:17,839 try there you go thank you it's like the 1150 00:54:17,839 --> 00:54:19,599 technology section is pretty light I 1151 00:54:19,599 --> 00:54:22,240 don't see James here tonight 1152 00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:26,119 so um we'll turn it over to Jan I'm sure 1153 00:54:26,119 --> 00:54:29,000 there's plenty of things that the parks 1154 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:35,030 department plenty of things in our wish 1155 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,640 list so we have a number of projects the 1156 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,240 ones that are out ears as with all of 1157 00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:43,359 these projects we will not discuss too 1158 00:54:43,359 --> 00:54:46,559 much so the first project isn't out here 1159 00:54:46,559 --> 00:54:49,000 um for Oakwood Park 1160 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,920 Trail the Raccoon River Valley Trail so 1161 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:56,480 this is uh a key Link in the raccoon 1162 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,559 River Valley Trail connection so coming 1163 00:54:58,559 --> 00:55:00,680 from the regional park this is an oute 1164 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,720 but if this land were ever to become 1165 00:55:02,720 --> 00:55:05,280 available or an easement through it it 1166 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:09,200 would become a priority project so Jan 1167 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:10,680 that land is for 1168 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,839 sale it right for sale right now and so 1169 00:55:13,839 --> 00:55:16,720 if it did sell are 1170 00:55:16,720 --> 00:55:20,599 we are is the like the realter no to 1171 00:55:20,599 --> 00:55:24,240 like talk to us or how I mean how would 1172 00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:26,960 we track that 1173 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,039 I would anticipate if I mean if it gets 1174 00:55:30,039 --> 00:55:31,720 I guess I don't know that for sure but 1175 00:55:31,720 --> 00:55:34,480 if it um ever gets developed then 1176 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,720 Parkland dedication would be required 1177 00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:39,839 but if it stays a single family house 1178 00:55:39,839 --> 00:55:42,680 which most people have talked to us 1179 00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,640 about 1180 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,079 abity okay yeah I did have a question on 1181 00:55:47,079 --> 00:55:49,200 that I talked to a couple of local 1182 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,359 developers here that whole area is a 1183 00:55:51,359 --> 00:55:55,319 flood plane right so it's probably not 1184 00:55:55,319 --> 00:55:56,960 going to get developed into residential 1185 00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,319 it's just too expensive so unless you 1186 00:56:00,319 --> 00:56:02,000 know it's multif family or something 1187 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:03,839 with more doors there's no way to burm 1188 00:56:03,839 --> 00:56:04,880 that 1189 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,960 and is that what's kind of preventing 1190 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,000 the sale of that and us being able to do 1191 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:09,680 the 1192 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,799 link I don't know what is preventing um 1193 00:56:12,799 --> 00:56:15,599 the sale of it I will share that I've 1194 00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:17,760 been with the city 26 years and we've 1195 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,640 visited with the current family a number 1196 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,480 of times over those years they had no 1197 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,720 interest in selling or giving easement 1198 00:56:24,720 --> 00:56:26,720 or anything but that certainly is a 1199 00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:29,160 priority for us because it's a 1200 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,240 significant um link Missing Link in this 1201 00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:34,000 trail 1202 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,920 system so again it's an oute but I just 1203 00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,839 wanted to mention it as it is a priority 1204 00:56:39,839 --> 00:56:43,680 so silkwood Crossing this um section 1205 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:49,559 here 140 um 148 Street and this Trail 1206 00:56:49,559 --> 00:56:53,440 when this development was uh put in the 1207 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,079 um developer was responsible for putting 1208 00:56:56,079 --> 00:56:58,960 in in the the north south and east 1209 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,400 section so this is a missing section to 1210 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:05,480 provide um accessibility so that is U 1211 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,640 proposed for next year and not a hugely 1212 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,520 expensive compared to all the other 1213 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,359 projects you're looking at tonight put 1214 00:57:12,359 --> 00:57:16,510 it that 1215 00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,319 way silveren Ridge Trail so this is at 1216 00:57:19,319 --> 00:57:21,440 North U park next to the Little League 1217 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,480 complex the Miracle League field the 1218 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,599 all-inclusive playground this section um 1219 00:57:26,599 --> 00:57:29,160 of Trail each year we evaluate all of 1220 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:35,720 our 58 miles of trails and evaluate the level of of safety and What needs to 1221 00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,119 what trail needs to be replaced or 1222 00:57:38,119 --> 00:57:42,000 repaired um uh as a priority and this is 1223 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,799 a section this one right here is a 1224 00:57:44,799 --> 00:57:48,079 significant slope it it's um averages 1225 00:57:48,079 --> 00:57:51,000 over 10% slope so as part of this it 1226 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,839 would be total reconstruction is what's 1227 00:57:53,839 --> 00:57:57,240 proposed and uh we we'd be looking for 1228 00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,839 opportunities my fine colleagues here in 1229 00:57:59,839 --> 00:58:01,839 engineering would be um looking for 1230 00:58:01,839 --> 00:58:03,880 opportunities to make it reduce the 1231 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,039 slope and make it safer for trail users 1232 00:58:06,039 --> 00:58:08,839 so this is plan design in 25 1233 00:58:08,839 --> 00:58:13,230 Construction in 1234 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:17,240 26 Waterford ro road uh continuation 1235 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,640 right now starting here going all the 1236 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,720 way down to Hickman we go over three 1237 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,760 miles without crossing a street so it's 1238 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,559 a pretty amazing um Trail linkage so 1239 00:58:27,559 --> 00:58:30,280 this would continue North this is 156 in 1240 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,839 Waterford so we would continue North to 1241 00:58:33,839 --> 00:58:37,079 um the uh Dallas County unincorporated 1242 00:58:37,079 --> 00:58:41,470 and that is planned right now for 1243 00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:45,000 2026 so on this one in particular 1244 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,839 I I guess what is the reasoning for this 1245 00:58:48,839 --> 00:58:50,280 getting bumped ahead of some of the 1246 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,920 other Trails or connections um that are 1247 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,599 planned because it right now you know 1248 00:58:56,599 --> 00:58:59,480 there's nothing on the other end 1249 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,359 right and again where when we do Trail 1250 00:59:02,359 --> 00:59:04,839 linkages one of them is as neighborhoods 1251 00:59:04,839 --> 00:59:07,240 they can get on going in this direction 1252 00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,960 so connecting anytime that we can 1253 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,880 connect neighborhoods connect to 1254 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:13,720 communities as well obviously this one 1255 00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:15,640 isn't necessarily connecting to 1256 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,720 communities but we certainly would be 1257 00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,920 looking at that of as this gets 1258 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,119 developed is this um getting developed 1259 00:59:23,119 --> 00:59:26,559 in the next um two years obviously the 1260 00:59:26,559 --> 00:59:29,920 plans then would be to for design and uh 1261 00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:33,559 construction hopefully in in 26 or 27 1262 00:59:33,559 --> 00:59:36,640 depending on one the design is but it 1263 00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,760 certainly we evaluate these as we go of 1264 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,160 is there other priorities a lot of it's 1265 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,200 with all Trails as well as other 1266 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,039 projects kind of the hip bones connected 1267 00:59:47,039 --> 00:59:50,680 to the knee bone and and so forth so um 1268 00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,400 one thing has to be developed before 1269 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:59,510 another 1270 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,520 Barrett bosen Park is probably one of 1271 01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,839 our most popular new parks so 156 in 1272 01:00:04,839 --> 01:00:08,000 Waterford currently we actually just 1273 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,000 finished phase two which is pretty 1274 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,000 amazing so if you haven't been out there 1275 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,119 please go out and take a look uh it 1276 01:00:14,119 --> 01:00:16,440 includes an optical course climbing 1277 01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,920 Boulder a pave pass for accessibility so 1278 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,240 this is what was just completed um this 1279 01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:27,640 section here and what is proposed in 1280 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,640 2026 is a trail 1281 01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,839 connection I'm going to zoom in here 1282 01:00:32,839 --> 01:00:36,359 again so this is all Barrett bosen 1283 01:00:36,359 --> 01:00:39,960 Park we have a a trail that that was put 1284 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,720 in and there's a Creek in between so 1285 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,319 proposes a trust bridge to connect this 1286 01:00:45,319 --> 01:00:47,799 whole neighborhood to the park so you 1287 01:00:47,799 --> 01:00:49,680 don't have to go all the way up and down 1288 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:54,000 and across so that's um proposed for 28 1289 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,799 and then future development um as 1290 01:00:56,799 --> 01:00:59,680 outlined here isn't an oute for other 1291 01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:01,799 amenities what's wonderful about this 1292 01:01:01,799 --> 01:01:04,799 park is the the bosen foundation has um 1293 01:01:04,799 --> 01:01:06,839 donated the first phase they donated 1294 01:01:06,839 --> 01:01:09,359 over $100,000 this phase that just 1295 01:01:09,359 --> 01:01:12,160 completed they donated $40,000 toward it 1296 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:22,270 so um it's been a great partnership and a funding um opportunity for the 1297 01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,119 city the next two parks Bentley Ridge 1298 01:01:25,119 --> 01:01:28,720 Park um this Parkland has actually not 1299 01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,760 been um dedicated yet I'm going to zoom 1300 01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,960 out here a little bit so this is Bentley 1301 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,400 Ridge so radiant Elementary School 170th 1302 01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,240 Street so this is the land that the city 1303 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,960 would acquire and we're looking at this 1304 01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,240 property for Parkland as well as I'm 1305 01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:48,720 going to move ahead to the next one 1306 01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,839 Highland Meadow so again this is radiant 1307 01:01:50,839 --> 01:01:52,799 elementary school so some unique 1308 01:01:52,799 --> 01:01:55,440 opportunities Bentley Ridge is here 1309 01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,559 Highland Meadows here this is a 9 acre 1310 01:01:58,559 --> 01:02:01,799 pretty beautiful um area for Parkland so 1311 01:02:01,799 --> 01:02:04,599 we're proposing to do a master plan for 1312 01:02:04,599 --> 01:02:08,000 both of these Parks so we know what what 1313 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:12,279 makes sense to be developed there um and 1314 01:02:12,279 --> 01:02:15,359 the uh this park has some significant 1315 01:02:15,359 --> 01:02:17,520 Parkland or Bentley Ridge has some 1316 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,160 pretty significant Parkland Dedication 1317 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,839 that help offset the project but again 1318 01:02:22,839 --> 01:02:25,079 for both of these projects of just 1319 01:02:25,079 --> 01:02:27,440 wanting to get usually the bigger 1320 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,160 projects will look to get a master plan 1321 01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,920 if it's a five six um acre or less Park 1322 01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,480 we we typically will do it inhouse and 1323 01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:40,799 work with a a consultant but these two 1324 01:02:40,799 --> 01:02:43,760 um certainly um seem appropriate to do a 1325 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,799 master plan and looking to obviously 1326 01:02:45,799 --> 01:02:47,319 radiant elementary school has a 1327 01:02:47,319 --> 01:02:48,920 playground so what can we do that's 1328 01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:50,440 going to complement what they have and 1329 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,839 Not Duplicate so three parks that are 1330 01:02:53,839 --> 01:02:56,520 with close proximity 1331 01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:02,510 I think that's great uh 1332 01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,640 planning the rec Hub so this is just 1333 01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,760 south of the parking lot here where our 1334 01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,079 current I guess it's almost a year and a 1335 01:03:10,079 --> 01:03:13,599 half ago City Hall was was at capacity 1336 01:03:13,599 --> 01:03:16,720 so our Parks and Recreation offices were 1337 01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:20,160 uh moved uh to this site so it was 1338 01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,920 repurposed I'm going to pull up the 1339 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,760 master plan here so our parks and 1340 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,760 recation offices this is the library 1341 01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,319 this is the main parking lot so our main 1342 01:03:30,319 --> 01:03:33,720 offices are right here now proposed is 1343 01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:37,279 re um utilizing the current two garage 1344 01:03:37,279 --> 01:03:41,279 Bays right now they're still with garage 1345 01:03:41,279 --> 01:03:44,400 Bays so in 2018 we had a master plan 1346 01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,760 done for parks recreation and open space 1347 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,640 and one of the things that was pretty 1348 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,279 clear is we have very insufficient 1349 01:03:51,279 --> 01:03:53,559 indoor Recreation space we have our 1350 01:03:53,559 --> 01:03:55,200 three Park shelters line shelter 1351 01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,119 gianetti shelter in the senior center 1352 01:03:57,119 --> 01:04:00,440 community center um with the uplex vote 1353 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,839 that didn't um get approved we still 1354 01:04:02,839 --> 01:04:04,520 that hasn't changed and it's getting 1355 01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,880 worse of we're having to rent spaces now 1356 01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,319 to to accommodate uh the community 1357 01:04:10,319 --> 01:04:13,520 obviously still wants to to have indoor 1358 01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,880 programming outdoor programming as well 1359 01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,880 so this is an opportunity to uh 1360 01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:22,480 reutilize and repurpose the um two 1361 01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:26,079 existing garage Bays this area here we'd 1362 01:04:26,079 --> 01:04:28,839 call it the yard and essentially is 1363 01:04:28,839 --> 01:04:32,799 outdoor space some um 1364 01:04:32,799 --> 01:04:35,279 artificial turf that you can have 1365 01:04:35,279 --> 01:04:37,640 outdoor picnic area shade structures do 1366 01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,279 outdoor movies um outdoor yoga things 1367 01:04:40,279 --> 01:04:43,680 like that so that is what's proposed in 1368 01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:47,440 the first phase of this uh project um 1369 01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:51,240 for next year would be uh it's planned 1370 01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:53,880 for 26 and 27 so we'd work with a 1371 01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,799 consultant and start the design planning 1372 01:04:56,799 --> 01:04:59,839 to then move forward with that in 26 and 1373 01:04:59,839 --> 01:05:04,279 27 and future phases could be a splash 1374 01:05:04,279 --> 01:05:07,160 bad additional parking um exterior 1375 01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,559 restrooms but again that is uh oute for 1376 01:05:10,559 --> 01:05:13,240 discussion uh we do get questions what's 1377 01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,400 going to happen to the old house that's 1378 01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,440 right next to the wreck office and that 1379 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,839 currently is a Wellness Center um for 1380 01:05:20,839 --> 01:05:22,960 the city the house is built I think in 1381 01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,960 1954 so as part of this that would come 1382 01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:29,559 down um and some of the parking there 1383 01:05:29,559 --> 01:05:32,799 would be um be able to be used for this 1384 01:05:32,799 --> 01:05:35,000 facility and that would come down in 1385 01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,839 phase one that would come down in phase 1386 01:05:37,839 --> 01:05:42,630 one so in 26 and 1387 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,520 27 so this would be a truly a public 1388 01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,680 amenity it wouldn't generate any any 1389 01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,520 Revenue uh it would be a rental rental 1390 01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:53,240 space so it would be a community 1391 01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,720 room similar to our indoor lion shelter 1392 01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:58,559 you can rent Senior Center you can rent 1393 01:05:58,559 --> 01:06:00,279 we do programming there but you could 1394 01:06:00,279 --> 01:06:04,160 also rent it so this um you could rent 1395 01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:05,760 this facility you need to have this 1396 01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:10,760 outdoor space uh as part of it so um one 1397 01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,119 of the garage Bays right now is proposed 1398 01:06:13,119 --> 01:06:16,400 like a be quite small a mini 1399 01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,720 gym so different types of flooring so 1400 01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:25,279 you can do different Fitness classes or Youth Sports and things like that so 1401 01:06:25,279 --> 01:06:30,630 yes they would be rented 1402 01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:34,200 facilities can you uh use your mic I'm 1403 01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,200 sorry one of the things that we've 1404 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,880 talked about at parks and wreck is that 1405 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:42,359 the senior center is overflowing and 1406 01:06:42,359 --> 01:06:44,839 that there's a continued need for more 1407 01:06:44,839 --> 01:06:47,359 and more and more Fitness classes or 1408 01:06:47,359 --> 01:06:50,119 programming so rather than having to 1409 01:06:50,119 --> 01:06:52,920 rent extra space for those kinds of 1410 01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,920 classes and so forth this would provide 1411 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,440 additional opportunity for us is that 1412 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,160 right yeah right now the senior center 1413 01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,599 has over 38 classes a week of Fitness 1414 01:07:03,599 --> 01:07:05,279 class that's the most popular classes 1415 01:07:05,279 --> 01:07:08,119 that we have we're having to rent um out 1416 01:07:08,119 --> 01:07:09,720 starting in January going to be renting 1417 01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:11,559 out space just to accommodate that so 1418 01:07:11,559 --> 01:07:14,119 that's just on the the senior population 1419 01:07:14,119 --> 01:07:17,279 side and as um we continue with kids of 1420 01:07:17,279 --> 01:07:21,319 all we say womb the tomb uh with 1421 01:07:21,319 --> 01:07:24,359 Recreation yeah ideally obviously would 1422 01:07:24,359 --> 01:07:25,279 have could have should have we would 1423 01:07:25,279 --> 01:07:27,319 have love to have a new recreation 1424 01:07:27,319 --> 01:07:30,279 facility but um out west but that's not 1425 01:07:30,279 --> 01:07:31,960 something that happened so now we're 1426 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:33,599 looking to be creative with the 1427 01:07:33,599 --> 01:07:35,079 facilities that we do have the 1428 01:07:35,079 --> 01:07:38,240 infrastructure the footprint is solid we 1429 01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,839 had that evaluated obviously before our 1430 01:07:40,839 --> 01:07:44,000 wreck offices even move there so um this 1431 01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:45,680 would be a helpful first step in being 1432 01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:49,200 able to um and then hopefully someday 1433 01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:50,599 maybe the police station when that's 1434 01:07:50,599 --> 01:07:52,880 vacated we 1435 01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:57,589 can planting a seed 1436 01:07:57,599 --> 01:08:01,910 any other questions on the rec 1437 01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:05,079 up uh jacqulyn Baldwin Dunlop Park and 1438 01:08:05,079 --> 01:08:08,680 our berum we are currently uh under 1439 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:10,799 contract for the construction of a 1440 01:08:10,799 --> 01:08:13,240 flushable restroom and that's the next 1441 01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:17,120 phase so in 2025 and as you know um 1442 01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,719 through this process hopefully you know 1443 01:08:19,719 --> 01:08:22,239 something gets approved like in 2024 1444 01:08:22,239 --> 01:08:23,880 that initiates the planning so the 1445 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:27,640 funding is in 25 so uh we are under 1446 01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:31,000 contract the uh with a consultant who is 1447 01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,480 planning the the design of the flush 1448 01:08:33,480 --> 01:08:35,480 restroom here as well as the one next to 1449 01:08:35,480 --> 01:08:37,719 the police station next to the soccer 1450 01:08:37,719 --> 01:08:40,520 field so those two were approved in 24 1451 01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:42,839 those are underd design right now the 1452 01:08:42,839 --> 01:08:45,960 exact location is is still being um 1453 01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,159 evaluated as well but we anticipate 1454 01:08:48,159 --> 01:08:51,239 somewhere off of the the parking lot 1455 01:08:51,239 --> 01:08:54,080 here for a flushable restroom what's 1456 01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,239 nice for um the any projects capital 1457 01:08:57,239 --> 01:09:00,000 projects that are done at uh the Dunlop 1458 01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,839 Park and Arboretum there is a foundation 1459 01:09:02,839 --> 01:09:06,040 that Paul and Jaclyn Baldwin um created 1460 01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:09,600 before they passed away and so any 1461 01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:11,759 capital projects that are funded it's 1462 01:09:11,759 --> 01:09:15,640 funded 50% by the foundation so that is 1463 01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:17,920 um part of what will be funded for this 1464 01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:22,630 project as 1465 01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,359 well Lions Park Improvement Prett 1466 01:09:25,359 --> 01:09:28,120 exciting the last couple years in 1467 01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,799 2024 this past spring the splash P 1468 01:09:30,799 --> 01:09:33,480 opened under construction right now 1469 01:09:33,480 --> 01:09:36,199 nearly completed phase two uh the 1470 01:09:36,199 --> 01:09:39,799 temperatures got too uh cool for doing 1471 01:09:39,799 --> 01:09:41,400 the surfacing and coloring for the 1472 01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:43,799 pickle ball court so this section right 1473 01:09:43,799 --> 01:09:47,799 here focused on the um Southeast corner 1474 01:09:47,799 --> 01:09:50,000 so was the demolition of the existing 1475 01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:51,719 courts the construction of four pickle 1476 01:09:51,719 --> 01:09:53,960 ball courts a tennis court three half 1477 01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:55,960 basketball courts are in there 1478 01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:57,960 accessible walkways outdoor games 1479 01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:01,239 grading detention um detention work for 1480 01:10:01,239 --> 01:10:04,640 both that phase as well as proposed for 1481 01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:08,719 next year is this parking will be adding 1482 01:10:08,719 --> 01:10:12,480 41 parking spots along the so it's pull 1483 01:10:12,480 --> 01:10:14,679 in head in parking along Prairie 1484 01:10:14,679 --> 01:10:16,520 obviously that's one of the the the 1485 01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:18,440 challenges we have at this park very 1486 01:10:18,440 --> 01:10:22,080 popular Park parking is an issue um so 1487 01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,440 being able to add that parking as well 1488 01:10:24,440 --> 01:10:28,800 as there will be some um medians in 1489 01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,360 between uh so we're going to be able to 1490 01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,400 adjust the electrical for Fourth of July 1491 01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:36,520 vendors so there'll be um little Islands 1492 01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:38,600 in between these parking spots so that 1493 01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:41,960 will be more of a permanent um for the 1494 01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:45,440 utilities there and also proposed for 1495 01:10:45,440 --> 01:10:47,199 this phase is improvements to the 1496 01:10:47,199 --> 01:10:49,679 playground so adding uh additional 1497 01:10:49,679 --> 01:10:51,239 expanding the playground adding 1498 01:10:51,239 --> 01:10:53,760 additional playground equipment and some 1499 01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,360 a part of it would be accessible rubber 1500 01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,800 eyes surfacing obviously as we've talked 1501 01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:00,120 before I would love to have that 1502 01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,080 rubberize surfacing on every playground 1503 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,400 we have but it's usually seven to 10 1504 01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,840 times more expensive than the um the 1505 01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,560 wood fiber and wood chip so anytime we 1506 01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,400 have that opportunity obviously that is 1507 01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,159 a priority for us so we can be 1508 01:11:14,159 --> 01:11:16,320 accessible to kids of all abilities and 1509 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:19,560 adults as well so that is what's planned 1510 01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:23,280 and proposed for phase three and then 1511 01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,840 future phases are outlined in the ca 1512 01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:32,470 of whenever those come 1513 01:11:32,480 --> 01:11:35,159 up this is a right next to the Delta 1514 01:11:35,159 --> 01:11:37,000 Dental and it's more of a it would be 1515 01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,760 initiated by the private um private 1516 01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:41,880 businesses there the city would have 1517 01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,800 very little commitment with that so just 1518 01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,880 a quick overview um one of the we have 1519 01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:52,040 playground Replacements and we have 40 1520 01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:55,239 playgrounds in Urbandale 13 of these 1521 01:11:55,239 --> 01:11:57,960 playgrounds are over 16 years old so 1522 01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,800 starting two years ago we had only been 1523 01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,320 doing one playground a year and that 1524 01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:05,159 there was no way we'd catch up with that 1525 01:12:05,159 --> 01:12:06,960 so now we're proposing three to four 1526 01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:09,560 playgrounds a year so just the the 1527 01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:11,520 colors here the playgrounds that were 1528 01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:15,000 replaced in 2023 are the orange the new 1529 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:18,520 playgrounds the regional park um as well 1530 01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:21,800 as Barrett bosen phase two was done this 1531 01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:25,800 past year um playgrounds in 2024 1532 01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,520 the replacement ones are in yellow and 1533 01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:33,280 then the proposed ones are in red for 1534 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:36,360 2025 and again those are all highlighted 1535 01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:41,800 in the in the in your CIP 1536 01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:44,800 document so this year because of weather 1537 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:46,880 and and we were supposed to finish three 1538 01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,239 playgrounds in the spring but the 1539 01:12:49,239 --> 01:12:52,159 installer um once summer hits they go to 1540 01:12:52,159 --> 01:12:55,639 the um the schools so we ended up having 1541 01:12:55,639 --> 01:12:57,880 five new playgrounds this year so it's 1542 01:12:57,880 --> 01:12:59,760 pretty phenomenal the regional park one 1543 01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:05,400 is is amazing so um we're just showing 1544 01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:08,000 the and again this is just a a DOT on 1545 01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,480 the map but essentially we have a 1546 01:13:10,480 --> 01:13:12,520 project for shelters and flushable 1547 01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:15,360 restroom so uh right now this one's 1548 01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:17,600 showing the one I just mentioned is at 1549 01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,159 the police station so that is a larger 1550 01:13:20,159 --> 01:13:22,719 that's our most used and most rented 1551 01:13:22,719 --> 01:13:25,520 shelter so it's flushable restroom and 1552 01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:30,520 shelter planted here um and then in 2025 1553 01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:37,870 would be the construction of 1554 01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,000 that and this is the one where it's just 1555 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:41,639 the dot on the map but essentially 1556 01:13:41,639 --> 01:13:43,520 utility installation a lot of these 1557 01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:46,760 projects obviously require um utilities 1558 01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:48,639 if you're doing a I've learned over the 1559 01:13:48,639 --> 01:13:50,480 years you do a flushable restroom one of 1560 01:13:50,480 --> 01:13:52,120 the reasons why it's so expensive is 1561 01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:54,840 bring sanitary sewer and water to a park 1562 01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:58,239 that doesn't have any an electrical so 1563 01:13:58,239 --> 01:14:02,600 um it's outlined again in the CIP I I I 1564 01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:04,199 could stand here and talk all night 1565 01:14:04,199 --> 01:14:05,960 about all the projects but I think that 1566 01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:09,239 you can read those over I wanted to just 1567 01:14:09,239 --> 01:14:10,920 overview the next few projects are 1568 01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:14,199 Walker Johnson projects and one of the 1569 01:14:14,199 --> 01:14:17,760 things that we are proposing for our 1570 01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,320 Parks operations budget so nothing to do 1571 01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:23,400 at CIP but it impact CIP is proposing to 1572 01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:27,679 do a master plan to re-envision Walker 1573 01:14:27,679 --> 01:14:30,920 Johnson Park essentially the softball 1574 01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:33,920 complex all of our area communities 1575 01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:37,920 Norwalk Grimes um walki have new 1576 01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,960 complexes our softball complex right now 1577 01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:44,320 we I eight years now I think or six 1578 01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,840 years that the city took over the 1579 01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,360 operations we just rented out so there's 1580 01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,520 not a huge Revenue stream there's some 1581 01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:53,920 that there's not a huge Revenue Stream 1582 01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:56,480 So as we look at some 1583 01:14:56,480 --> 01:14:58,639 significant um Investments that are 1584 01:14:58,639 --> 01:15:01,760 proposed in the CIP this one is not as 1585 01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:03,639 huge but next to the pickle ball courts 1586 01:15:03,639 --> 01:15:05,719 is just the repurpose and remodel to 1587 01:15:05,719 --> 01:15:09,040 provide a restroom but as you and some 1588 01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:11,199 for the skateboard park starting to get 1589 01:15:11,199 --> 01:15:13,520 more expensive but you look at this 1590 01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,679 softball complex um and some of it for 1591 01:15:16,679 --> 01:15:20,600 the lighting needs to be replaced uh The 1592 01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:24,000 Outfield fencing the surfacing some 1593 01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,880 significant in Ms to the tune of almost 1594 01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:29,440 $2 million we said okay should we be in 1595 01:15:29,440 --> 01:15:32,080 the softball business let's do a master 1596 01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,800 plan to revisit that and have 1597 01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:36,719 significant Community input Community 1598 01:15:36,719 --> 01:15:38,199 what do you want to see and they might 1599 01:15:38,199 --> 01:15:41,679 say keep it softball but it might be a 1600 01:15:41,679 --> 01:15:43,400 splash pad it might be outdoor 1601 01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:45,600 recreation one of the things just to 1602 01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,719 mention and again it doesn't impact the 1603 01:15:47,719 --> 01:15:50,040 CIP projects but the master plan it does 1604 01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:52,800 need to be an outdoor recreation 1605 01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,440 amenities because of the the funding in 1606 01:15:55,440 --> 01:15:58,280 the 1970s that was used to purchase this 1607 01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:00,120 it's the land waterer conservation 1608 01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:01,960 Bureau of outdoor recreation it was 1609 01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:04,800 called at the time so it would need to 1610 01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:10,360 be um outdoor but stay tuned um we have 1611 01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:12,400 three of our five council members here 1612 01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:14,719 so um and our finance director and 1613 01:16:14,719 --> 01:16:17,360 assistant city manager so that is 1614 01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:20,440 proposed in our Parks operating budget 1615 01:16:20,440 --> 01:16:23,639 so I just preface that so we don't get 1616 01:16:23,639 --> 01:16:25,360 too much into the details of what's 1617 01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:28,440 planned here um so we did we push back 1618 01:16:28,440 --> 01:16:30,280 all of our projects in Walker Johnson 1619 01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:33,040 until 2026 at least so we have that 1620 01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,480 Master Plan input before we make those 1621 01:16:35,480 --> 01:16:37,760 Investments so with the softball fields 1622 01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:39,400 it sounds like they're just costing more 1623 01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:42,239 than we're kind of renting yeah we we 1624 01:16:42,239 --> 01:16:45,520 net some I mean three years ago it was 1625 01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:49,560 56,000 last year was 32,000 this year 1626 01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:53,760 was 22,000 so it's getting less and less 1627 01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:55,440 uh and just 1628 01:16:55,440 --> 01:16:58,040 because there's a lot nicer complexes 1629 01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,719 out there that um one they have 1630 01:17:00,719 --> 01:17:03,400 synthetic field so they can play uh 1631 01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:05,639 pretty much any time and it's just 1632 01:17:05,639 --> 01:17:09,120 becoming less and less popular so it we 1633 01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:10,480 just thought you know what Now's the 1634 01:17:10,480 --> 01:17:12,120 Time to do it obviously our main 1635 01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:13,719 infrastructure that we've invested 1636 01:17:13,719 --> 01:17:16,040 millions in would stay um we're not 1637 01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:17,960 going to take out the pickle ball courts 1638 01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:19,719 or the tennis courts or things like that 1639 01:17:19,719 --> 01:17:22,560 but revisioning that that section by the 1640 01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:26,600 softball is what we be looking at Jan 1641 01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:30,440 um I you said this was coming soon to an 1642 01:17:30,440 --> 01:17:33,360 operating budget but you know we've 1643 01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:35,639 talked about the ReUse of the police 1644 01:17:35,639 --> 01:17:37,440 department 1645 01:17:37,440 --> 01:17:42,639 building would that be something to wrap 1646 01:17:42,639 --> 01:17:45,760 into this or would that be too premature 1647 01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:47,239 I don't know you don't need to answer 1648 01:17:47,239 --> 01:17:50,560 that but like that's where I'm what I'm 1649 01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:52,120 thinking I don't 1650 01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:56,840 know so you're like like yeah I can 1651 01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:58,520 answer for Jan it's 1652 01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:01,960 yes yeah we're we actually are are 1653 01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:04,560 hoping to to get things all ready for 1654 01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:07,280 July 1 to start with the community input 1655 01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:09,520 so if the budget gets approved in March 1656 01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:11,960 we would move forward with the RFP get 1657 01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,480 things ready so we're not doing that in 1658 01:18:14,480 --> 01:18:17,560 July and August we're ready to to start 1659 01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:21,719 so I I can't speak for well I just think 1660 01:18:21,719 --> 01:18:26,440 it's something to consider uh um since 1661 01:18:26,440 --> 01:18:30,880 it's coming the you know an empty big 1662 01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:34,480 building in the vicinity so I don't know 1663 01:18:34,480 --> 01:18:38,280 I would love nothing more that okay well 1664 01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:39,880 it brings up a good point if we're 1665 01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:41,840 talking about the park right next to 1666 01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:43,719 where we've got a planned wreck Hub and 1667 01:18:43,719 --> 01:18:47,440 an empty station you before too long can 1668 01:18:47,440 --> 01:18:49,320 that all be wrapped into a master plan 1669 01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:52,199 to get the best use of all of it the 1670 01:18:52,199 --> 01:18:55,199 recre Hub has a master plan it we did a 1671 01:18:55,199 --> 01:19:00,440 master plan for it um so and have 1672 01:19:00,440 --> 01:19:02,520 obviously the preliminary drawings and 1673 01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:06,239 so forth so timing of these obviously a 1674 01:19:06,239 --> 01:19:07,920 lot of steps have to happen for the 1675 01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:09,880 police station our crisis right now of 1676 01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:13,360 indoor space for the wreck Hub 1677 01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:15,840 um I'm hoping we'll be able to move 1678 01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:21,520 forward but certainly all the timing and whatever comes out of a master plan 1679 01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,440 then you start plugging things back into 1680 01:19:23,440 --> 01:19:27,480 the CIP saying okay now when can you 1681 01:19:27,480 --> 01:19:30,920 make those happen so um I think there 1682 01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,719 would have to however the timing works I 1683 01:19:33,719 --> 01:19:36,600 am open to whatever discussion so so 1684 01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:39,400 hopefully for the overall master plan 1685 01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:42,600 the wreck Hub is essentially an existing 1686 01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:44,960 condition isn't that what we're looking 1687 01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:46,880 at right I mean we if it gets approved 1688 01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:50,520 we would start right design construction 1689 01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:52,719 drawings and design of that okay yeah I 1690 01:19:52,719 --> 01:19:55,000 just I asked CU you know I hear Splash 1691 01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:56,920 Pad at Lion's Park Splash Pad at the 1692 01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:58,960 wreck Hub potential Splash Pad at you 1693 01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,320 know some of these things are all kind 1694 01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:04,800 of similar in function in a way right 1695 01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,320 and the splash pad at the wreck Hub 1696 01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:10,520 is out year and some people have 1697 01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,239 concerns about it at that location so 1698 01:20:13,239 --> 01:20:15,880 certainly that master plan at Walker you 1699 01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:17,880 would not put one in my opinion you 1700 01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:20,239 would not put one at the rec Hub if you 1701 01:20:20,239 --> 01:20:22,560 have one at Walker Johnson I mean and 1702 01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:25,320 that's where we're in the CIP coming 1703 01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:28,280 here to of the the upcoming projects of 1704 01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:32,600 a splash bed out west so um I love this 1705 01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:35,320 excitement about parks and wck 1706 01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:39,960 yay um Waterford Park is a diff Golf and 1707 01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:44,080 I think it's over here we're g to so the 1708 01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:47,040 expansion there's Waterford Park so we 1709 01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:49,840 have a current 15 or 13 whole disc golf 1710 01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:54,280 course is proposed to to um enhance that 1711 01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,800 to expand that to 18 holes so that would 1712 01:20:56,800 --> 01:21:02,470 be in this uh coming fiscal 1713 01:21:02,480 --> 01:21:06,480 year water Trails this is an uh I'm 1714 01:21:06,480 --> 01:21:08,400 trying to think of what year we have 1715 01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:09,239 this 1716 01:21:09,239 --> 01:21:13,000 in this is an out oute I'll just mention 1717 01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:16,360 I did submit a grant to Icon last week 1718 01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:18,679 if we were to get that Grant then next 1719 01:21:18,679 --> 01:21:21,560 year I would come to you and seeing if 1720 01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:23,440 we can move that forward but that's 1721 01:21:23,440 --> 01:21:25,840 planned in the regional part so these um 1722 01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,000 projects now are for the regional call 1723 01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,280 Park the Walnut Creek Regional Park for 1724 01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:33,159 those of you that hopefully you're aware 1725 01:21:33,159 --> 01:21:36,000 of it but it uh Meredith Drive on the 1726 01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:39,120 North Douglas on the South 156th Street 1727 01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:43,000 on the west 142 Street on the East so 1728 01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:46,199 this 200 acre Park uh Walker Johnson is 1729 01:21:46,199 --> 01:21:48,560 considered our active Park Walnut Creek 1730 01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:50,760 Regional Park is considered our passive 1731 01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,080 Park limited to what you can construct 1732 01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:54,800 there because a lot of this land land 1733 01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,159 was purchased with re funding so again 1734 01:21:57,159 --> 01:22:01,719 the um more of an outdoor passive 1735 01:22:01,719 --> 01:22:04,320 Recreation so this is the park access 1736 01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:06,760 road we currently from Aurora Avenue 1737 01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:12,800 down to the end of 147th Street have the Park Road or the Walnut Creek Park 1738 01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,600 Road proposed here would be the 1739 01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:19,280 continuation of this down to Douglas and 1740 01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:20,600 one of the things that this is 1741 01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:23,040 contingent upon here's the roundabout 1742 01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:26,159 this section the Northwest section of 1743 01:22:26,159 --> 01:22:27,600 the roundabout would need to be 1744 01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,080 developed because the frontage road for 1745 01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:33,600 this is the this park access road would 1746 01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:38,040 need to connect to so it it seems to be 1747 01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:39,920 a project that gets pushed back right 1748 01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:42,920 now we have it in 2028 and we just see 1749 01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,360 on the timing of of as this gets 1750 01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:47,440 developed then kind of one of those one 1751 01:22:47,440 --> 01:22:49,199 thing has to happen before the next 1752 01:22:49,199 --> 01:22:56,510 that's what this is so 1753 01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:58,679 this is the area at the corner of 1754 01:22:58,679 --> 01:23:00,239 152nd 1755 01:23:00,239 --> 01:23:02,840 and uh Meredith Drive so the fire 1756 01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:04,920 station here this is where the proposed 1757 01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,840 uplex would have been so these are in an 1758 01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:10,760 oute but we just have proposed possible 1759 01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:13,120 facilities that could be there one of 1760 01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:15,960 the um amenities we had talked about was 1761 01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:18,639 a regional playground and we said you 1762 01:23:18,639 --> 01:23:21,360 know what for that one amenity let's put 1763 01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:24,880 it next to an already existing in 1764 01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:27,960 parking lot shelter restroom so this 1765 01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,639 current year we just finished the Walnut 1766 01:23:30,639 --> 01:23:33,120 Creek Regional Park regional 1767 01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,159 playground right next to and I didn't 1768 01:23:35,159 --> 01:23:37,760 want to zoom ahead I just wanted to show 1769 01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:40,320 you the the visual here so proposed 1770 01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:45,600 ameni 152nd and Meredith oute unless 1771 01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:47,520 they become a priority in funding more 1772 01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:50,000 of a priority in fundings available what 1773 01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:55,189 is proposed in 2020 1774 01:23:55,199 --> 01:23:59,760 eight right now is a splash pad right 1775 01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:01,719 next to the regional play playground 1776 01:24:01,719 --> 01:24:03,080 this is the regional playground that 1777 01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:05,080 just got completed they already have 1778 01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:07,639 done the grading for a future Splash Pad 1779 01:24:07,639 --> 01:24:09,480 when we found out the popularity of 1780 01:24:09,480 --> 01:24:14,880 lions uh park splash pad and wanting to 1781 01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:16,840 certainly provide Regional amenities for 1782 01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:20,080 both um parts of the community uh we'd 1783 01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,080 love to do a splash pad out at the 1784 01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:27,390 regional park in right now it's in 1785 01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:31,239 28 that is the end of the parks projects 1786 01:24:31,239 --> 01:24:34,400 any questions Jan would 1787 01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:37,320 you uh for the a splash pad at that 1788 01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,960 location would you need to do because 1789 01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:41,880 the shelter with the restrooms is on the 1790 01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:44,280 other side of the parking lot would you 1791 01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:47,000 do would a restroom facility be 1792 01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:51,840 incorporated on this end no okay 1793 01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:54,840 no that would be another 1794 01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:55,840 lot 1795 01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,880 $400,000 if you would want to we're open 1796 01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:02,239 to it but uh just looking at 1797 01:25:02,239 --> 01:25:06,719 the the cost of those things 1798 01:25:06,719 --> 01:25:09,760 yeah it is a regional park I've been 1799 01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:12,080 wondering about the possibility of 1800 01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,719 seeking Partnerships on the funding so 1801 01:25:14,719 --> 01:25:17,000 that it's not entirely uh a burden of 1802 01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:18,119 the city of 1803 01:25:18,119 --> 01:25:20,560 Urbandale I'm not trying to put this on 1804 01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:22,840 in your lap I'm just saying that that's 1805 01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:26,600 something we need to kind of figure out how to think about U because 1806 01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:28,840 I think there's probably potential 1807 01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:32,360 Partnerships um it is a regional part 1808 01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:33,199 for 1809 01:25:33,199 --> 01:25:37,360 sure yeah we had looked at at some of 1810 01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:39,840 those for other Regional amenities it's 1811 01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:43,480 um yeah as you know I I'm all about 1812 01:25:43,480 --> 01:25:45,280 rating grants 1813 01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:49,199 to to subsidize yeah maybe we can we 1814 01:25:49,199 --> 01:25:50,639 need to talk about that maybe there's 1815 01:25:50,639 --> 01:25:52,320 ways to do this that aren't even right 1816 01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:55,480 in Grants it's like uh getting them to 1817 01:25:55,480 --> 01:25:59,000 step up and support a regional 1818 01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:02,320 piece so anyway there might be ways to 1819 01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:05,040 defr some of this 1820 01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:07,560 Cost question for that one Trail link 1821 01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:09,679 that you had um that was contingent on 1822 01:26:09,679 --> 01:26:11,520 the sale of that property that was the 1823 01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:14,760 critical connection yes um maybe this is 1824 01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:16,480 a good question for some of you at the 1825 01:26:16,480 --> 01:26:18,320 table here but is there anything that 1826 01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:19,840 can be done with Planning and Zoning 1827 01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:27,030 what what is that zoned there right now 1828 01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:29,000 agricultural looking at you yeah I think 1829 01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:30,960 it's R R1 where the houses and 1830 01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:33,320 agricultural but like you said three4 of 1831 01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:36,000 it flood plane yeah I just didn't know 1832 01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:37,440 if there's anything zoning wise that 1833 01:26:37,440 --> 01:26:38,880 could be done to entice someone to 1834 01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:40,520 actually come in and put in a burn to 1835 01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:43,560 develop it well the problem is a current 1836 01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:48,470 owner probably on getting it 1837 01:26:48,480 --> 01:26:51,800 resed so it would to exactly someone 1838 01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:53,840 would have to buy it and then correct 1839 01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:55,440 reone 1840 01:26:55,440 --> 01:26:57,199 I just didn't know if we could anyone 1841 01:26:57,199 --> 01:27:00,239 could work with a developer to entice 1842 01:27:00,239 --> 01:27:03,080 them with that you know to to move that 1843 01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:06,560 a every time we meet somebody on theer 1844 01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,560 we discuss ability to so it all depends 1845 01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:13,080 some people at aure they do not want 1846 01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:16,070 people 1847 01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:22,070 walk 1848 01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:24,600 deps yeah that's just I know we we'd 1849 01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:26,600 spoke in the past there's in my mind 1850 01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:27,960 five critical Links of kind of 1851 01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:29,520 connecting the trail system and that is 1852 01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:31,000 one of them and I'll have some questions 1853 01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:32,560 on the other one is a other ones that 1854 01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:36,669 they come about 1855 01:27:36,679 --> 01:27:39,400 today well I think uh I think you did a 1856 01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:42,189 good job 1857 01:27:42,199 --> 01:27:50,149 Jan uh so 1858 01:27:50,159 --> 01:27:54,239 Bridges I may need them but I may not 1859 01:27:54,239 --> 01:27:58,950 I'm 1860 01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:01,159 older um so just to let you know I think 1861 01:28:01,159 --> 01:28:04,480 I have all the rest of the pages here so 1862 01:28:04,480 --> 01:28:06,679 um I'll kind of run through know that 1863 01:28:06,679 --> 01:28:08,440 I'll hit on the stuff that's in the next 1864 01:28:08,440 --> 01:28:10,159 five years and then I'll kind of pass 1865 01:28:10,159 --> 01:28:11,880 over anything that's unprogrammed which 1866 01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:13,679 means it's from six years to 10 years 1867 01:28:13,679 --> 01:28:16,040 out but feel free interrupt me at any 1868 01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:17,679 time if there is kind of like an oute or 1869 01:28:17,679 --> 01:28:19,560 anything you would do want to talk 1870 01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:22,560 about um let's see so Bridges our first 1871 01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,760 one here 41 one it isn't an oute now 1872 01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:27,760 I'll just highlight that it used to be 1873 01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:31,040 in 2028 and this is the area where Jan 1874 01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:32,719 was talking about the bridge and in the 1875 01:28:32,719 --> 01:28:35,760 disc Gulf up in this area here um really 1876 01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:37,520 the reason I moved it to an oute is just 1877 01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:40,679 to free up funding this property up here 1878 01:28:40,679 --> 01:28:42,360 will need to be purchased and a 1879 01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:44,280 development plan brought forward so 1880 01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:46,800 until really this property is ready to 1881 01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:48,480 develop there's not a reason to have a 1882 01:28:48,480 --> 01:28:51,600 bridge connecting the two properties so 1883 01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:53,520 the property up here does have Financial 1884 01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:55,440 responsib abilities for a portion of the 1885 01:28:55,440 --> 01:28:58,000 bridge so again nothing we can really do 1886 01:28:58,000 --> 01:28:59,920 until the development comes along once 1887 01:28:59,920 --> 01:29:01,800 that does we can look at moving it back 1888 01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:04,560 up in the CIP but as of right now I 1889 01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:08,239 think it's been been in you know a year 1890 01:29:08,239 --> 01:29:09,880 those first five years for at least 10 1891 01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:11,960 years now so I fig it's time to just 1892 01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:15,400 move it to an oute and see what 1893 01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:18,520 happens and then our next one on page 42 1894 01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:20,239 is also in and out year that's if we 1895 01:29:20,239 --> 01:29:22,040 actually extend Waterford road further 1896 01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:23,639 to the West we'll need a structure to 1897 01:29:23,639 --> 01:29:25,320 cross across the 1898 01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:28,040 creek and that is the only two items we 1899 01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:34,149 have for 1900 01:29:34,159 --> 01:29:38,119 Bridges move on to the 1901 01:29:38,119 --> 01:29:42,159 sidewalks so on page 43 is our Ada 1902 01:29:42,159 --> 01:29:44,320 pedestrian access transition plan 1903 01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:45,920 basically we have to have this plan in 1904 01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:47,760 order to receive federal funding through 1905 01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:51,040 the through the dot um what we do is 1906 01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:53,679 each year um we design basically The 1907 01:29:53,679 --> 01:29:54,840 Pedestrian and ramps at the 1908 01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:57,400 intersections and we reconstruct them to 1909 01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:00,400 bring them into ADA compliance uh we do 1910 01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:03,719 $100,000 a year and what we're coming up 1911 01:30:03,719 --> 01:30:05,840 with for this next year that we'll beid 1912 01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:09,040 in you know in January is roughly in are 1913 01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:12,280 areas east of 86 Street again this is 1914 01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:17,229 just an annual 1915 01:30:17,239 --> 01:30:20,840 program next one is on page 44 this is a 1916 01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:23,480 new new project that we added to the CIP 1917 01:30:23,480 --> 01:30:26,159 this year it's basically to construct a 1918 01:30:26,159 --> 01:30:28,040 10- foot Trail on the north side of 1919 01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:30,760 Hickman Road from the access point on 1920 01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:32,840 the Frontage Road West of Patricia drive 1921 01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:35,520 over to 86 Street and there's a lot of 1922 01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:36,920 other sheets we'll be talking about but 1923 01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:38,560 I just want to show how all this kind of 1924 01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:40,639 connects together so we're talking about 1925 01:30:40,639 --> 01:30:43,760 the trail here as we move a little 1926 01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:45,800 further to the 1927 01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:48,880 West um so this is our parks and Public 1928 01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:51,360 Works facility it's got a 10-ft trail 1929 01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:53,320 out in front of it we have under 1930 01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:56,080 contract to connect that trail over to 1931 01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:58,800 the axis onto the frontage road um 1932 01:30:58,800 --> 01:30:59,920 they've started that this year 1933 01:30:59,920 --> 01:31:01,800 unfortunately we ran into some delays 1934 01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:03,480 with getting our shop drawings approved 1935 01:31:03,480 --> 01:31:05,360 through the railroad we're hoping 1936 01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:06,800 through the winter we will get that 1937 01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:09,040 approved and then we can finish the 1938 01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:11,920 construction in in the spring so this 1939 01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:13,400 will be a connection from 86 Street 1940 01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:15,239 will'll get us back to the parks and 1941 01:31:15,239 --> 01:31:18,280 Public Works then another page that'll 1942 01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:21,000 be coming up in a little bit is we're 1943 01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:23,719 looking to reconstruct the frontage road 1944 01:31:23,719 --> 01:31:25,440 and and once we do that we'll look to 1945 01:31:25,440 --> 01:31:27,520 turn that into Cheryl's and that'll be 1946 01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:29,960 the connection to get you over to 100 1947 01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:32,560 Street our right away on the north is is 1948 01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:35,239 just too narrow to fit anything in there 1949 01:31:35,239 --> 01:31:36,920 and then of course with the ditches in 1950 01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:39,239 here it'll be difficult so we'd have 1951 01:31:39,239 --> 01:31:40,760 there's not a lot of traffic on there 1952 01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:43,600 they can come up onto here we would um 1953 01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:45,920 replace this sidewalk to connect you up 1954 01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:48,800 to 100 Street that'll be said another 1955 01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:51,400 page that'll talk about a trail 1956 01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:55,119 connection from 100 Street back West to 1957 01:31:55,119 --> 01:31:57,360 111 street or the entrance into living 1958 01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:00,400 history farms and then there's another 1959 01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:01,880 page we'll talk about the Hickman 1960 01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:03,199 interchange that'll get you back 1961 01:32:03,199 --> 01:32:05,159 Connected over here by LifeTime Fitness 1962 01:32:05,159 --> 01:32:07,400 to the trail that was just constructed 1963 01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:09,520 there so again just kind of put a few 1964 01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:11,600 things in context on how they all work 1965 01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:15,270 together when to talk about them 1966 01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:17,480 individually going back so again this is 1967 01:32:17,480 --> 01:32:20,080 at at the East stand here from from just 1968 01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:23,960 west of Patricia over to 86 Street 1969 01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:25,800 thank you that overview is helpful yeah 1970 01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:27,960 I was just about to say the same thing 1971 01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:29,679 looked at each one of these individually 1972 01:32:29,679 --> 01:32:31,119 they jump they jump around so then we 1973 01:32:31,119 --> 01:32:33,719 jump that's what alphabetical order 1974 01:32:33,719 --> 01:32:37,159 does on on for on page 45 then is one I 1975 01:32:37,159 --> 01:32:40,159 just mentioned is the 100 Street over to 1976 01:32:40,159 --> 01:32:42,199 the entrance to liveing history farms 1977 01:32:42,199 --> 01:32:43,880 and we were fortunate enough to we 1978 01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:45,760 received 400,000 in surface 1979 01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:48,000 Transportation block grants um 1980 01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:51,280 alternative funding for that so again 1981 01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:54,440 we'll have funding it was originally 1982 01:32:54,440 --> 01:32:57,119 funding for 2028 asked to move it up to 1983 01:32:57,119 --> 01:32:59,560 27 to coincide with when the trail would 1984 01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:01,239 be with the Hickman interchange and the 1985 01:33:01,239 --> 01:33:03,440 no said yes we can accommodate that so 1986 01:33:03,440 --> 01:33:09,590 they let it occur in 1987 01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:13,920 27 our next one here on page 46 is a 1988 01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:16,800 study trying to look for a way to find a 1989 01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:19,280 connection around 86 Street or a little 1990 01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:21,400 further west to connect North Park and 1991 01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:22,760 Plum Drive to get you over the 1992 01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:25,080 interstate um we've hired a consultant 1993 01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:26,880 that's looking at options right now 1994 01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:29,360 they're due to have um recommendations 1995 01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:30,880 To Us by the end of the year then 1996 01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:32,400 hopefully next year we can update the 1997 01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:35,040 page on on the location but right now 1998 01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:37,360 it's not the safest people do walk along 1999 01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:39,320 86 Street and we're just looking for a 2000 01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:42,320 more accomodating way to connect the way 2001 01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:44,000 I look at it connect the hotels and 2002 01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:45,679 restaurants with the other hotels and 2003 01:33:45,679 --> 01:33:48,119 restaurants on the North side along with 2004 01:33:48,119 --> 01:33:50,270 the 2005 01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:52,600 businesses so I did have a question on 2006 01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:54,280 this one um 2007 01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:57,199 right now the the trail Network that is 2008 01:33:57,199 --> 01:33:59,199 linking all those neighborhoods to the 2009 01:33:59,199 --> 01:34:02,960 South kind of from Cross Creek on up um 2010 01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:05,239 it manages not to have to cross any 2011 01:34:05,239 --> 01:34:07,080 streets until you hit 2012 01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:09,400 Plum um so any of the people that are 2013 01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:11,480 going to be using this um that are not 2014 01:34:11,480 --> 01:34:13,080 just coming from hotels but all those 2015 01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:15,040 residential neighborhoods to the South 2016 01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:18,520 are having to cross a cross plone drive 2017 01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:20,280 and that that's only going to get busier 2018 01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:23,760 as that area develops is there a way 2019 01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:26,639 similar to how it is in all of the major 2020 01:34:26,639 --> 01:34:28,840 um arterial streets to the South to get 2021 01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:30,880 under Plum Drive so that you're not 2022 01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:32,880 having to cross eight bus he Street I I 2023 01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:35,360 don't believe it's physically possible 2024 01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:37,320 one thing are as part of this study is 2025 01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:39,280 the consultant is also looking at where 2026 01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:42,600 the trail should be on Plum Drive again 2027 01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:44,239 I think it's going to be on one side of 2028 01:34:44,239 --> 01:34:45,760 the road or the other they're also 2029 01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:48,800 looking at where the uh decorative light 2030 01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:50,000 poles and things would go so they're 2031 01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:52,639 looking at that entire Corridor but I 2032 01:34:52,639 --> 01:34:54,760 just don't think it's possible to get 2033 01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:57,320 low enough to go go under Plum Drive 2034 01:34:57,320 --> 01:34:59,520 yeah because at at Douglas at merid it 2035 01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:01,480 all goes under manages to go under the 2036 01:35:01,480 --> 01:35:05,080 roads kind of by those the water system 2037 01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:13,270 the creek 2038 01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:19,280 y um on page 47 this is a new project so 2039 01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:21,760 what this would do is we have a trail in 2040 01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:25,080 Meredith Park and it would replace the 2041 01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:27,560 sidewalk and continue it over towards 86 2042 01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:30,080 Street as we come up on 86 Street it 2043 01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:31,880 would go back down to the existing 2044 01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:34,000 sidewalk that's there today our limiting 2045 01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:37,320 constraints there are um the parking lot 2046 01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:39,480 and there's a gas regulation station 2047 01:35:39,480 --> 01:35:41,639 right here and the easements we' need to 2048 01:35:41,639 --> 01:35:46,440 obtain so again this this one would be a challenge and a very expensive 2049 01:35:46,440 --> 01:35:48,080 project if we had to buy part of their 2050 01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:50,360 parking lot and move that gas regulation 2051 01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:53,280 station a little more background on this 2052 01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:55,520 again future projects I'll talk about 2053 01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:58,520 but so as I say it connect out of the 2054 01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:00,239 Marth Park up into the 2055 01:36:00,239 --> 01:36:02,440 neighborhoods um we've got a project 2056 01:36:02,440 --> 01:36:04,840 that'll be bid shortly through the dot 2057 01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:07,119 that'll take a 10- foot trail from 86 2058 01:36:07,119 --> 01:36:08,920 Street on the north side of Meredith 2059 01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:13,119 over to 104th Street and over by 104th 2060 01:36:13,119 --> 01:36:15,159 Street zoom in so you can see it we 2061 01:36:15,159 --> 01:36:18,360 recently constructed a trail along 104th 2062 01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:19,840 that provides 2063 01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:21,560 connections and then we're in the 2064 01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:24,199 process we have under contract track to 2065 01:36:24,199 --> 01:36:26,480 extend the trail from 104th over to 2066 01:36:26,480 --> 01:36:29,159 Northwest Urbandale Drive in order to do 2067 01:36:29,159 --> 01:36:31,040 that we had to underground the power 2068 01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:33,719 poles unfortunately that's taken longer 2069 01:36:33,719 --> 01:36:36,440 than we anticipated so we thought we'd 2070 01:36:36,440 --> 01:36:38,639 have this Trail in this fall turns out 2071 01:36:38,639 --> 01:36:40,840 it'll be this spring before they finish 2072 01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:42,560 the undergrounding for 2073 01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:45,360 us so again just to put things in 2074 01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:49,199 context on uh where we are 2075 01:36:49,199 --> 01:36:51,679 at yeah I will mention I think I did 2076 01:36:51,679 --> 01:36:53,360 last year it would be a shame to have 2077 01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:56,239 that 10 foot nice path all down along 2078 01:36:56,239 --> 01:36:59,040 Meredith except for a 200 foot section 2079 01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:01,760 um I I know you know down on Hickman we 2080 01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:03,239 managed to figure something out with the 2081 01:37:03,239 --> 01:37:04,920 railroad I don't know if there's how 2082 01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:08,760 expensive this gas station area would be 2083 01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:10,679 to get moved or all I'm sure it's 2084 01:37:10,679 --> 01:37:12,760 complicated but yeah I think in order to 2085 01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:14,560 get the 10 foot through there we would 2086 01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:16,639 have to remove a large portion of that 2087 01:37:16,639 --> 01:37:19,840 parking lot as well I think it'd be very 2088 01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:20,880 we can always look into it but I think 2089 01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:23,320 it be very expensive to buy a chunk of 2090 01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:26,080 par parking lot from from the bank there 2091 01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:27,440 I'm sure it would as well it just it 2092 01:37:27,440 --> 01:37:29,960 would be a shame to have that whole I 2093 01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:32,280 realize that but that's part of part of 2094 01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:33,920 I guess the philosophy of the complete 2095 01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:36,440 streets plan is it's not always I you 2096 01:37:36,440 --> 01:37:38,360 know a perfect situation you just try to 2097 01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:40,320 fit in and make as many improvements as 2098 01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:43,560 you can and what you can make work it's 2099 01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:46,440 not additionally just that one stretch 2100 01:37:46,440 --> 01:37:48,599 of sidewalk gets within like two foot of 2101 01:37:48,599 --> 01:37:50,320 the road there I know it's it's 2102 01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:56,589 dangerous as it is so 2103 01:37:56,599 --> 01:37:59,440 next one is also a new project this year 2104 01:37:59,440 --> 01:38:03,040 on page 48 this would be a 5- foot 2105 01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:06,520 sidewalk to connect um the hotel down to 2106 01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:08,760 Sutton Place and then there's a sidewalk 2107 01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:11,320 continues to the South I'd also add that 2108 01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:12,920 in the last few years we worked with the 2109 01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:16,280 city de Mo and dart and we now have a a 2110 01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:19,119 bus stop in this area here so again 2111 01:38:19,119 --> 01:38:21,159 we've got access to the bus stop from 2112 01:38:21,159 --> 01:38:22,880 the south and from the West this would 2113 01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:25,000 provide more access from the hotel down 2114 01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:30,589 to to that Dart 2115 01:38:30,599 --> 01:38:35,719 stop page 49 is also a new project so as 2116 01:38:35,719 --> 01:38:38,000 I was mentioning we have a trail we're 2117 01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:39,480 looking to construct on the north side 2118 01:38:39,480 --> 01:38:41,520 of Meredith we have an existing on 2119 01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:43,199 Meredith we have a trail on Northwest 2120 01:38:43,199 --> 01:38:45,520 urbil Drive so this would provide a 2121 01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:47,679 trail connection on the west side of 2122 01:38:47,679 --> 01:38:49,159 Northwest over the drive that would get 2123 01:38:49,159 --> 01:38:56,550 you up to the Plum Drive corridor 2124 01:38:56,560 --> 01:38:59,520 page 50 this is our page that we call 2125 01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:01,760 the sidewalks various locations 2126 01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:04,560 basically um we walk a quarter of the 2127 01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:07,239 city every year and we look for defects 2128 01:39:07,239 --> 01:39:09,800 uh we notify the property owner to do 2129 01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:11,840 those repairs and then if there happens 2130 01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:13,800 to be any there are city responsibility 2131 01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:18,000 this allows us to have funding to fix things that are city 2132 01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:20,000 responsibility and you can see right now 2133 01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:22,520 almost all all the money that's in in 2134 01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:24,520 out years are B basically the property 2135 01:39:24,520 --> 01:39:26,599 owners we do have a balance so we are 2136 01:39:26,599 --> 01:39:28,760 all right at the moment sometime in the 2137 01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:30,320 future we may need to start putting 2138 01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:33,960 funds into that balance but right now we have enough money to keep doing our 2139 01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:37,870 own 2140 01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:40,639 repairs is there a certain part of the 2141 01:39:40,639 --> 01:39:43,320 city based on 2142 01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:46,639 your every foure walking that we'll be 2143 01:39:46,639 --> 01:39:50,280 focusing on for this coming year you 2144 01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:56,070 mind me 2145 01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:57,080 when you when you've been doing this for 2146 01:39:57,080 --> 01:39:59,360 20 some years those those keep rotating 2147 01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:04,750 start keep 2148 01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:09,199 track okay and then on page 51 is a new 2149 01:40:09,199 --> 01:40:11,320 project um this would provide a 2150 01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:14,040 connection between call the the North 2151 01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:16,000 Leg of aurora on the west side of 86 2152 01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:18,199 Street and then what future project 2153 01:40:18,199 --> 01:40:20,080 we'll talk about is our complete streets 2154 01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:21,639 and bike Lanes we're talking about on 2155 01:40:21,639 --> 01:40:24,119 Aurora Avenue um right right now there's 2156 01:40:24,119 --> 01:40:27,239 not a good way since we added cheros on 2157 01:40:27,239 --> 01:40:30,360 Aurora Avenue here to get down to Aurora 2158 01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:32,239 um there's a 4ot sidewalk that doesn't 2159 01:40:32,239 --> 01:40:33,840 drain real well through here so what 2160 01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:35,560 we're proposing is to replace that with 2161 01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:38,000 a 10- foot Trail and and make for a 2162 01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:45,830 safer connection between the two Aurora 2163 01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:49,760 Avenues P 52 is another new 2164 01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:52,840 project um so recently on the north side 2165 01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:55,639 of Doug we did the 15ot um complete 2166 01:40:55,639 --> 01:40:58,199 streets uh Trail and sidewalk that get 2167 01:40:58,199 --> 01:41:00,360 you to the creek get the cross over the 2168 01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:03,000 creek and then this past year we added 2169 01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:06,080 the 15 foot section over to um Justin 2170 01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:07,920 Martin Drive or the entrance police 2171 01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:09,840 station and HIV where we cross the 2172 01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:12,719 street and then continued over to 86th 2173 01:41:12,719 --> 01:41:15,840 Street unfortunately we had some utility 2174 01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:18,239 issues that held us up so so far only 2175 01:41:18,239 --> 01:41:20,280 the sidewalks been put in on the south 2176 01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:21,840 side of Doug Douglas they'll connect 2177 01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:24,159 over to North Karen Acres Park Park in 2178 01:41:24,159 --> 01:41:26,440 the spring we'll add the 10-ft asphalt 2179 01:41:26,440 --> 01:41:27,679 piece which will give us a good 2180 01:41:27,679 --> 01:41:30,040 connection through there so looking at a 2181 01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:33,440 future project that will connect up to 2182 01:41:33,440 --> 01:41:36,199 this new new East West trail that will 2183 01:41:36,199 --> 01:41:38,599 provide a 10- foot Trail to replace the 2184 01:41:38,599 --> 01:41:41,239 sidewalk to go from Douglas past the 2185 01:41:41,239 --> 01:41:43,719 city hall campus and then connect down 2186 01:41:43,719 --> 01:41:46,119 to the Charles gapes Memorial Tree Park 2187 01:41:46,119 --> 01:41:47,719 it's one of the kind of missing areas we 2188 01:41:47,719 --> 01:41:50,280 have of sidewalk is on call it the 2189 01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:52,000 entrance into the library we don't have 2190 01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:54,239 a sidewalk on either side it was set up 2191 01:41:54,239 --> 01:41:56,119 in the middle of the parking lot so this 2192 01:41:56,119 --> 01:41:58,440 will add an easier way to get down to 2193 01:41:58,440 --> 01:42:00,639 the park and into the trail so that's 2194 01:42:00,639 --> 01:42:02,400 proposed in 2195 01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:06,280 2026 and then in 2029 would be replacing 2196 01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:08,719 a piece of Trail through here that 2197 01:42:08,719 --> 01:42:12,080 connects into to our other trail 2198 01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:15,679 system what is the plan for 86 are you 2199 01:42:15,679 --> 01:42:17,400 looking at doing a 10- foot Trail 2200 01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:19,760 similar to the other arterial streets 2201 01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:22,719 or um actually looking at the areas we 2202 01:42:22,719 --> 01:42:24,719 can there's a lot of areas where it's 2203 01:42:24,719 --> 01:42:27,800 going to be tough especially as we get 2204 01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:31,239 north of Douglas um it'd be one of those 2205 01:42:31,239 --> 01:42:33,719 things where you'd have to start looking 2206 01:42:33,719 --> 01:42:35,880 at will it fit on the east side then you 2207 01:42:35,880 --> 01:42:36,960 might go a couple blocks and you have to 2208 01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:38,480 move it to the west side where it would 2209 01:42:38,480 --> 01:42:40,040 fit and then maybe move it back to the 2210 01:42:40,040 --> 01:42:42,000 east looking at a lot of these I think 2211 01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:46,560 it's going to be difficult um it's been a while but I did the widening 2212 01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:50,000 design for 86 Street here and just kind 2213 01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:51,239 of the way the drainage if you look at a 2214 01:42:51,239 --> 01:42:53,400 lot of things it drops off into the yard 2215 01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:55,639 s to where we pretty much did all we 2216 01:42:55,639 --> 01:42:57,199 could without having to either get 2217 01:42:57,199 --> 01:42:59,599 easements take people's fences out and 2218 01:42:59,599 --> 01:43:02,560 keep moving things closer so there's you 2219 01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:04,840 again challenges there then on the flip 2220 01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:06,719 side you've got you know by the golf 2221 01:43:06,719 --> 01:43:09,159 course where it's down next to it and 2222 01:43:09,159 --> 01:43:10,719 their parking lot where we already got a 2223 01:43:10,719 --> 01:43:13,040 retaining wall next to it so it's 2224 01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:14,480 something something we're looking at but 2225 01:43:14,480 --> 01:43:17,159 haven't found a great solution for yet 2226 01:43:17,159 --> 01:43:19,760 with that in mind um you just talked a 2227 01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:21,320 second ago about the extension or 2228 01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:23,880 replacement of a 4ot sidewalk 2229 01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:26,000 are are a lot of those easements through 2230 01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:27,239 these neighborhoods where they have the 2231 01:43:27,239 --> 01:43:29,639 trail City owned where those 4 foot 2232 01:43:29,639 --> 01:43:32,639 sidewalks exist it depends it could be 2233 01:43:32,639 --> 01:43:34,400 in an easement or it could be in City 2234 01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:36,360 own just different location what I was 2235 01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:39,440 wondering is is there a way to go from 2236 01:43:39,440 --> 01:43:41,880 Walker Johnston through some of those 4 2237 01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:43,599 foot trails that kind of run from there 2238 01:43:43,599 --> 01:43:46,000 up through C to kind of Cross Creek Park 2239 01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:48,679 instead if you're not able to develop 2240 01:43:48,679 --> 01:43:54,790 along the street of 886 2241 01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:56,719 so it would be I know like I said we've 2242 01:43:56,719 --> 01:43:58,760 worked with again we started doing some 2243 01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:00,800 of the cheros up in here but it gets 2244 01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:03,599 tough through the golf course here and 2245 01:44:03,599 --> 01:44:04,880 there's some other ones where yeah it 2246 01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:07,040 would be private property that is in 2247 01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:08,920 kind of the in the complete streets plan 2248 01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:11,119 just again we were trying to get some of 2249 01:44:11,119 --> 01:44:13,719 the ones that we can do now versus and 2250 01:44:13,719 --> 01:44:14,920 then there'll be time when we get to 2251 01:44:14,920 --> 01:44:23,189 more of these challenging ones 2252 01:44:23,199 --> 01:44:27,440 53 is a new one it's hard to see here 2253 01:44:27,440 --> 01:44:29,840 but uh there's a trail that goes through 2254 01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:33,080 um Gul VI Park here comes out to a 4 2255 01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:35,119 foot sidewalk along 100 Street so we' 2256 01:44:35,119 --> 01:44:37,560 replace that with a trail across the 2257 01:44:37,560 --> 01:44:40,000 street have our Trail come along here 2258 01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:42,400 and tie into La Ward Park which brings 2259 01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:44,560 you out to the trail along Northwest 2260 01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:46,040 Urbandale drive so we have this short 2261 01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:47,840 little stretch of sidewalk that we would 2262 01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:50,790 lighten out to a 2263 01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:53,239 trail would we be assessing anything the 2264 01:44:53,239 --> 01:44:56,199 property owners there no um basically 2265 01:44:56,199 --> 01:44:58,679 once the property owners responsible for 2266 01:44:58,679 --> 01:45:00,840 the original sidewalk so if there hadn't 2267 01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:02,599 been one then yes they would be 2268 01:45:02,599 --> 01:45:04,040 responsible for half I just wanted to 2269 01:45:04,040 --> 01:45:06,080 see if Curtis was paying 2270 01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:07,920 attention he's pretty excited when he 2271 01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:13,310 learned this one was in 2272 01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:14,960 here 2273 01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:17,639 54 our last one within sidewalk so these 2274 01:45:17,639 --> 01:45:21,360 are is a sidewalk along 114th Street so 2275 01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:23,960 this year we constructed a sidewalk that 2276 01:45:23,960 --> 01:45:26,199 continued from Meredith down to Aurora 2277 01:45:26,199 --> 01:45:28,040 Avenue and I guess a little background 2278 01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:32,920 what we're looking at is trying to add some amenity into the the Aurora 2279 01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:34,679 Business Park to have people a place to 2280 01:45:34,679 --> 01:45:36,520 walk with all the business we have back 2281 01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:38,199 when these were all originally built 2282 01:45:38,199 --> 01:45:39,880 sidewalks were just not something that 2283 01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:42,239 anybody built in in a business area or 2284 01:45:42,239 --> 01:45:44,800 an office area so again from Meredith 2285 01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:46,920 down to Aurora the sidewalk has been 2286 01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:49,520 built and so next year's plan is we'll 2287 01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:51,560 continue from Aurora bring it all the 2288 01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:54,000 way down to Douglas tie the trail system 2289 01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:57,000 there and then 2026 we tie it in along 2290 01:45:57,000 --> 01:45:59,880 Aurora into there's a a Trail Loop 2291 01:45:59,880 --> 01:46:01,560 around the pond so we'd connect that 2292 01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:04,910 area all 2293 01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:07,639 together I guess that is the last page 2294 01:46:07,639 --> 01:46:11,510 of 2295 01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:15,360 sidewalks storm water is next one's 2296 01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:19,520 storm water here that storm water stream 2297 01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:22,239 restoration youve got uh the very first 2298 01:46:22,239 --> 01:46:26,040 one on page AG 55 is in an oute it'd be 2299 01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:29,760 some improvements along Airline 2300 01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:32,520 Avenue our next one is is the cre and 2301 01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:34,040 storm water 2302 01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:36,119 improvements have some slide here I want 2303 01:46:36,119 --> 01:46:40,750 to pull up 2304 01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:51,830 quick that is 2305 01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:54,679 not so again this is an annual allotment 2306 01:46:54,679 --> 01:46:56,320 where we do different different Creek 2307 01:46:56,320 --> 01:46:58,320 improvements where we lay back the banks 2308 01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:00,599 and deal with erosion issues just I 2309 01:47:00,599 --> 01:47:02,199 wanted to highlight a couple things that 2310 01:47:02,199 --> 01:47:04,440 we are currently doing it's one that's 2311 01:47:04,440 --> 01:47:07,440 under under contract now this is City 2312 01:47:07,440 --> 01:47:10,159 Hall here so we're just north of Douglas 2313 01:47:10,159 --> 01:47:12,280 in sunflower Park we've got a proposed 2314 01:47:12,280 --> 01:47:14,400 project in there and we've got another 2315 01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:17,119 one reference here's 142nd in Douglas 2316 01:47:17,119 --> 01:47:19,280 the roundabout we're you did you come 2317 01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:20,719 into the park on the north side of 2318 01:47:20,719 --> 01:47:22,400 Douglas that's looking to start this 2319 01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:23,719 December 2320 01:47:23,719 --> 01:47:25,639 and the bids were roughly 2321 01:47:25,639 --> 01:47:28,840 $390,000 for that one and then we have 2322 01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:30,960 one under under design now that we're 2323 01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:32,159 trying to keep make sure we get all our 2324 01:47:32,159 --> 01:47:33,520 permits secured which should happen 2325 01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:34,880 shortly that we can go out to bid 2326 01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:37,960 probably January February hopefully here 2327 01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:40,560 um one is in G viw Park so it's just 2328 01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:43,080 east of 100 Street or just just in the 2329 01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:44,400 general area where we were just talking 2330 01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:45,679 about the trail 2331 01:47:45,679 --> 01:47:48,520 connection and then there's another one 2332 01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:50,520 here's the roundabout again but this 2333 01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:52,320 time it's south of Douglas for work on 2334 01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:54,960 the creek right now their estimate is 2335 01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:58,880 roughly $900,000 for those those two 2336 01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:01,239 projects so just give you a little more 2337 01:48:01,239 --> 01:48:08,229 detail uh on those 2338 01:48:08,239 --> 01:48:13,149 projects our next one is page 2339 01:48:13,159 --> 01:48:16,520 57 um this is a new project that would 2340 01:48:16,520 --> 01:48:18,639 be some storms improvements on Dennis 2341 01:48:18,639 --> 01:48:24,189 Drive but is currently in an oute 2342 01:48:24,199 --> 01:48:27,199 page 58 is our annual intake uh 2343 01:48:27,199 --> 01:48:29,719 rebuilding program this is one where we 2344 01:48:29,719 --> 01:48:32,040 have used outside contractors help 2345 01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:35,159 supplement our Public Works Crews um 2346 01:48:35,159 --> 01:48:36,800 this is actually be the last year that 2347 01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:39,119 we have this proposed to use the outside 2348 01:48:39,119 --> 01:48:42,159 contractors in the last since 2014 we've 2349 01:48:42,159 --> 01:48:45,760 repaired about 450 intakes uh we think 2350 01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:47,679 from now we can handle it with our crew 2351 01:48:47,679 --> 01:48:49,400 we're going to suspend this this program 2352 01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:50,719 with the additional funding but we're 2353 01:48:50,719 --> 01:48:52,239 going to keep monitoring things and we 2354 01:48:52,239 --> 01:48:54,560 think we need to start hire some 2355 01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:56,040 contractors to help again we'll 2356 01:48:56,040 --> 01:48:58,239 reintroduce dollars into this this 2357 01:48:58,239 --> 01:49:01,119 program but again right now we repared a 2358 01:49:01,119 --> 01:49:03,080 lot of the older block style ones that 2359 01:49:03,080 --> 01:49:05,320 have fallen apart we've got way more now 2360 01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:07,320 that are the port concrete which last a 2361 01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:12,990 lot 2362 01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:15,360 longer page 2363 01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:18,760 59 is a new page but it's the Madison 2364 01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:20,880 Avenue storm sewer improvements so just 2365 01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:23,040 a little background since this one is is 2366 01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:25,800 in the next fiveyear plan um we did a 2367 01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:28,599 study to look at our storm sewer system 2368 01:49:28,599 --> 01:49:31,320 east of 86 Street and that's where're 2369 01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:33,280 not really a surprise but we learned 2370 01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:34,800 that a lot of our storm sewer is 2371 01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:37,480 undersized we also know a lot of the 2372 01:49:37,480 --> 01:49:39,520 community doesn't have any storm sewer 2373 01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:40,800 in in their neighborhoods so we're 2374 01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:42,880 looking at ways that we can add storm 2375 01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:45,760 sewer or upside storm sewer as we go so 2376 01:49:45,760 --> 01:49:47,840 for instance on this one with our 2377 01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:50,920 Douglas urbanization we upsized the pipe 2378 01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:53,239 here to kind of get things started and 2379 01:49:53,239 --> 01:49:55,440 with this project we can add storm on 2380 01:49:55,440 --> 01:49:59,239 81st in Madison 82nd and 83rd so 2381 01:49:59,239 --> 01:50:01,119 basically to do these projects we have 2382 01:50:01,119 --> 01:50:04,119 to remove the pavement um add the larger 2383 01:50:04,119 --> 01:50:06,800 storm sewer and we redo the pavement and 2384 01:50:06,800 --> 01:50:08,840 at these times we're also adding uh 2385 01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:10,920 Services out to the property owner so 2386 01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:13,159 they can hook their sum pump up to it as 2387 01:50:13,159 --> 01:50:15,679 well um a lot of these you know we 2388 01:50:15,679 --> 01:50:17,040 decide we got to determine how many 2389 01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:18,679 years they're usually mult multiple 2390 01:50:18,679 --> 01:50:20,040 years for instance this one right now 2391 01:50:20,040 --> 01:50:21,920 we're assuming we get done in two we'll 2392 01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:23,880 have to design to confirm that but the 2393 01:50:23,880 --> 01:50:26,440 reason these take so long is you have to 2394 01:50:26,440 --> 01:50:28,280 do them in short segments because while 2395 01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:30,000 the Street's gone people have to walk to 2396 01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:32,040 their house so we try to keep it as 2397 01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:33,760 short a distance as possible but still 2398 01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:38,400 be able to get get work done during the construction season so again 2399 01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:40,080 kind of that four or 500 feet is what we 2400 01:50:40,080 --> 01:50:45,550 try to limit to how far people have to 2401 01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:48,199 walk on page 2402 01:50:48,199 --> 01:50:51,159 60 is our Oliver Smith storm sewer 2403 01:50:51,159 --> 01:50:53,520 project so as a point of reference 2404 01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:56,440 here's Ken Acres Elementary um this will 2405 01:50:56,440 --> 01:50:58,400 be kind of a second phase of a project 2406 01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:00,199 that I'll talk about in a minute that's 2407 01:51:00,199 --> 01:51:02,920 why this is not looking to start till 2408 01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:05,840 29 but we will basically be able to add 2409 01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:08,040 the storm sewer and make improvements on 2410 01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:11,639 74 street over to 72nd Oliver Smith 2411 01:51:11,639 --> 01:51:16,950 again kind of northeast of Karen Acres 2412 01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:19,159 Elementary and here's the main one that 2413 01:51:19,159 --> 01:51:21,360 we're looking at right now is Page 61 2414 01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:23,800 which is our Land Drive storm SE 2415 01:51:23,800 --> 01:51:27,119 Improvement so again here is Karen Acres 2416 01:51:27,119 --> 01:51:29,280 so this project will start down down at 2417 01:51:29,280 --> 01:51:32,000 the creek work all the way up to Rosland 2418 01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:35,119 the 72nd Beyond Palm again this is 2419 01:51:35,119 --> 01:51:36,719 another one that'll have a lot of 2420 01:51:36,719 --> 01:51:39,239 payment removal new storm sewer payment 2421 01:51:39,239 --> 01:51:41,280 replacement there's a little bit unlik 2422 01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:43,280 Ashworth Drive that would we don't need 2423 01:51:43,280 --> 01:51:45,480 to remove all the street to put in the 2424 01:51:45,480 --> 01:51:47,599 storm sewer so we'll do some patching so 2425 01:51:47,599 --> 01:51:49,119 again we're looking to improve the 2426 01:51:49,119 --> 01:51:52,000 entire neighborhood while we are there 2427 01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:54,320 um this one we're looking at bidding 2428 01:51:54,320 --> 01:51:56,159 that out kind of the January February 2429 01:51:56,159 --> 01:51:57,520 time 2430 01:51:57,520 --> 01:52:00,320 frame John with it being so close to the 2431 01:52:00,320 --> 01:52:03,560 school do you have to schedule around we 2432 01:52:03,560 --> 01:52:05,639 do y we've been in communication with 2433 01:52:05,639 --> 01:52:07,280 the school I think it's roughly two 2434 01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:08,760 weeks ago we also had a neighborhood 2435 01:52:08,760 --> 01:52:10,239 informational meeting where we kind of 2436 01:52:10,239 --> 01:52:12,000 explained everything it's kind of 2437 01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:13,840 surprising nobody wanted to talk as much 2438 01:52:13,840 --> 01:52:15,280 about the street coming out as they did 2439 01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:17,040 our our foundation drain disconnect 2440 01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:18,920 program that was that was interesting to 2441 01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:22,760 them was that well received actually 2442 01:52:22,760 --> 01:52:24,280 there actually I think it was and there 2443 01:52:24,280 --> 01:52:26,639 was just a lot of curiosity with it you 2444 01:52:26,639 --> 01:52:28,199 know wondering how it would work and you 2445 01:52:28,199 --> 01:52:29,239 know tell them we still had some more 2446 01:52:29,239 --> 01:52:31,280 things to work through but again i' 2447 01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:32,320 would have been there to talk about the 2448 01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:34,000 fact I'm gonna have to walk home they 2449 01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:35,800 just seem to focus focus on wanting to 2450 01:52:35,800 --> 01:52:39,079 learn more about that 2451 01:52:39,079 --> 01:52:41,719 so so yeah and so yeah we have talked to 2452 01:52:41,719 --> 01:52:44,239 school it got a little tougher now this 2453 01:52:44,239 --> 01:52:46,199 became the year round school so we have 2454 01:52:46,199 --> 01:52:48,159 different windows and when we have to do 2455 01:52:48,159 --> 01:52:50,520 breaks but again the good news is when 2456 01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:52,679 we're down here there's still other ways 2457 01:52:52,679 --> 01:52:55,239 to get in from the north be bar 2458 01:52:55,239 --> 01:52:57,000 consultant has been in contact with the 2459 01:52:57,000 --> 01:53:00,159 school and been discussing it with 2460 01:53:00,159 --> 01:53:02,760 them who's the consultant in this one 2461 01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:07,550 this one's aeom 2462 01:53:07,560 --> 01:53:10,960 okay our next one is page 2463 01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:13,679 62 um we call this the storm store 2464 01:53:13,679 --> 01:53:15,920 extension from the Merl ha reinvestment 2465 01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:17,840 District we called it was called the 2466 01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:19,360 Merl hay reinvestment District because 2467 01:53:19,360 --> 01:53:20,760 we applied for a grant and didn't get 2468 01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:23,320 the grant but we kept the name 2469 01:53:23,320 --> 01:53:26,400 so a little bit about this one um back 2470 01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:30,320 in our our June of 2018 storms 66 in 2471 01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:32,400 aine was probably our one location where 2472 01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:33,760 the intersection probably got the 2473 01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:35,400 deepest the most flooding so we're 2474 01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:38,599 looking to try to alleviate that um what 2475 01:53:38,599 --> 01:53:40,159 we've got going since this is kind of 2476 01:53:40,159 --> 01:53:44,079 that second phase this year we started 2477 01:53:44,079 --> 01:53:46,480 down down here at 64th in Douglas where 2478 01:53:46,480 --> 01:53:48,119 used to be a Mexican restaurant City 2479 01:53:48,119 --> 01:53:49,920 purchased that to install the storm 2480 01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:52,840 sewer we cross Douglas went up parking 2481 01:53:52,840 --> 01:53:55,119 lot on the west side of IHOP followed 2482 01:53:55,119 --> 01:53:57,639 the Ring Road around the mall up to 2483 01:53:57,639 --> 01:53:59,760 Airline we were always figuring this 2484 01:53:59,760 --> 01:54:02,280 would be a full two-year project 2485 01:54:02,280 --> 01:54:03,880 everything went went well with our 2486 01:54:03,880 --> 01:54:06,199 contractor all the storms pipe is in 2487 01:54:06,199 --> 01:54:08,800 Airline all we have left to do in the 2488 01:54:08,800 --> 01:54:11,719 spring is is paved the the malls Ring 2489 01:54:11,719 --> 01:54:13,920 Road back in it's just temporary surface 2490 01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:16,040 now but again they they did a lot of 2491 01:54:16,040 --> 01:54:17,880 work in a short time frame to get 2492 01:54:17,880 --> 01:54:20,800 through there so to talk about this next 2493 01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:23,880 phase so there is the storm sewer that 2494 01:54:23,880 --> 01:54:26,360 comes up here and it's already stubbed 2495 01:54:26,360 --> 01:54:28,679 into Airline off the mall's property so 2496 01:54:28,679 --> 01:54:30,159 this would bring the storm sewer and 2497 01:54:30,159 --> 01:54:33,040 bring it down Airline over to 66 where 2498 01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:35,000 again we'll be adding a lot of intakes 2499 01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:37,079 and things to help reduce that Flooding 2500 01:54:37,079 --> 01:54:41,239 at the intersection we're also adding um 2501 01:54:41,239 --> 01:54:43,199 new storm sewer over here in Madison and 2502 01:54:43,199 --> 01:54:45,800 it does two different things for us you 2503 01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:47,280 know all a lot of the drainage that's 2504 01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:49,360 coming north Airline now coming in this 2505 01:54:49,360 --> 01:54:52,639 new storm sewer and go around whereas it 2506 01:54:52,639 --> 01:54:54,520 doesn't overload the system that's down 2507 01:54:54,520 --> 01:54:56,000 here now so we've taken some of the 2508 01:54:56,000 --> 01:54:58,480 pressure off of our existing system that 2509 01:54:58,480 --> 01:55:00,599 could not handle 2510 01:55:00,599 --> 01:55:04,320 it so this one here is planned for 2511 01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:11,149 2026 and this one is currently under 2512 01:55:11,159 --> 01:55:15,599 design our next one is page 63 so this 2513 01:55:15,599 --> 01:55:17,880 is at 65th at Meredith another storm 2514 01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:19,639 sewer Improvement project what this one 2515 01:55:19,639 --> 01:55:21,960 will do is we'll start at the creek 2516 01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:24,920 north of Meredith um put in a larger 2517 01:55:24,920 --> 01:55:27,760 storm sewer along Meredith here between 2518 01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:31,679 67th and 65th then 65th currently has no 2519 01:55:31,679 --> 01:55:34,239 storm sewer so this will be adding storm 2520 01:55:34,239 --> 01:55:36,119 sewer to this entire stretch of the road 2521 01:55:36,119 --> 01:55:37,960 here it does not currently have it and 2522 01:55:37,960 --> 01:55:40,360 of course will hook up or give the sump 2523 01:55:40,360 --> 01:55:44,189 pump connections as 2524 01:55:44,199 --> 01:55:46,760 well believe it or not that is the end 2525 01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:47,440 of 2526 01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:50,400 storm I'd like to make a general comment 2527 01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:53,960 here sure 2528 01:55:53,960 --> 01:55:57,280 I've been an advocate for storms worker 2529 01:55:57,280 --> 01:56:01,870 for quite a while 2530 01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:04,800 and going back to our 2531 01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:07,199 original repeating myself from last year 2532 01:56:07,199 --> 01:56:10,040 and the year before andway going back to 2533 01:56:10,040 --> 01:56:13,520 our Consultants study a couple years ago 2534 01:56:13,520 --> 01:56:16,679 they outlined in yesterday's dollars 2535 01:56:16,679 --> 01:56:18,840 $100 million worth of storm store work 2536 01:56:18,840 --> 01:56:19,760 for 2537 01:56:19,760 --> 01:56:22,679 Urbandale and I suggested that time 2538 01:56:22,679 --> 01:56:25,400 maybe think about 80 80 mil and of 2539 01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:28,920 course those numbers now are obsolete 2540 01:56:28,920 --> 01:56:32,159 you what was 80 million then three or 2541 01:56:32,159 --> 01:56:35,400 four years ago is probably 100 120 2542 01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:37,199 million 2543 01:56:37,199 --> 01:56:42,599 now and I advocated for more money for 2544 01:56:42,599 --> 01:56:45,599 storm sters it felt like 100 Mill if 2545 01:56:45,599 --> 01:56:48,000 it's 100 million doll project and you're 2546 01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:50,719 divided divided into 10 years so maybe 2547 01:56:50,719 --> 01:56:52,880 we'd arrive well it be 10 million in the 2548 01:56:52,880 --> 01:56:57,000 year that's just repeating what I said 2549 01:56:57,000 --> 01:57:00,440 before now I see by going back to the 2550 01:57:00,440 --> 01:57:01,520 finance 2551 01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:05,440 pages that we left 2552 01:57:05,440 --> 01:57:08,760 our monies for storm 2553 01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:13,950 seers what they were we go back to page 2554 01:57:13,960 --> 01:57:18,800 a.2 I I bragged out last year's CIP to 2555 01:57:18,800 --> 01:57:20,760 Compare the numbers yeah 2556 01:57:20,760 --> 01:57:24,320 while jump numbers up more money going 2557 01:57:24,320 --> 01:57:27,400 to it now but now I don't see or I guess 2558 01:57:27,400 --> 01:57:31,480 my question is we have put three new 2559 01:57:31,480 --> 01:57:34,440 storm SE projects on the 2560 01:57:34,440 --> 01:57:37,239 books but as far as I can see most of 2561 01:57:37,239 --> 01:57:39,719 that is 2562 01:57:39,719 --> 01:57:45,430 outway 2563 01:57:45,440 --> 01:57:48,560 and don't see these numbers are jumping 2564 01:57:48,560 --> 01:57:52,760 up I suspect subject to correction that 2565 01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:55,679 reflecting increased construction costs 2566 01:57:55,679 --> 01:57:57,000 for the same 2567 01:57:57,000 --> 01:57:59,520 project and I still think we need to 2568 01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:03,520 devote more more work more dollars to 2569 01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:05,480 more storm seers we're ever going to 2570 01:58:05,480 --> 01:58:07,360 arrive on this thing again repeating 2571 01:58:07,360 --> 01:58:09,400 what I talked about 2572 01:58:09,400 --> 01:58:11,199 before 2573 01:58:11,199 --> 01:58:14,400 now as our chief Engineers pointed out 2574 01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:17,000 here you got to move this stuff in small 2575 01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:18,679 increments it's 2576 01:58:18,679 --> 01:58:21,119 disruptive I can't imagine anything 2577 01:58:21,119 --> 01:58:22,840 tougher to sell 2578 01:58:22,840 --> 01:58:25,480 a concrete pipe that is buried in the 2579 01:58:25,480 --> 01:58:28,679 ground and is only used once in a 2580 01:58:28,679 --> 01:58:31,760 while unfortunately love clip side of 2581 01:58:31,760 --> 01:58:34,040 that thing is yeah used once in a while 2582 01:58:34,040 --> 01:58:36,280 but then had once in it's all designed 2583 01:58:36,280 --> 01:58:39,760 as far as I know for 100e flood subject 2584 01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:43,560 corrected on that but we have lots of of 2585 01:58:43,560 --> 01:58:46,199 times when there more than a 100 year 2586 01:58:46,199 --> 01:58:49,880 flood and so then 2587 01:58:49,880 --> 01:58:52,480 the the question comes up well we spent 2588 01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:54,199 all this money and we're still flooding 2589 01:58:54,199 --> 01:58:55,760 so it's it's a tough sell all the way 2590 01:58:55,760 --> 01:58:59,520 around difficult costly deal but again I 2591 01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:03,079 guess I'll just if we can I still think 2592 01:59:03,079 --> 01:59:06,000 we need to accelerate this program over 2593 01:59:06,000 --> 01:59:08,199 what we're currently planning on but 2594 01:59:08,199 --> 01:59:10,320 where that money is going to come from 2595 01:59:10,320 --> 01:59:11,719 is a very good question because this 2596 01:59:11,719 --> 01:59:13,960 stuff is 2597 01:59:13,960 --> 01:59:17,119 slow and you can't do too much anyone 2598 01:59:17,119 --> 01:59:19,760 ear like John says can't walk to your 2599 01:59:19,760 --> 01:59:22,800 house it's a mud hole for five blocks 2600 01:59:22,800 --> 01:59:26,360 around so it's a very difficult deal but 2601 01:59:26,360 --> 01:59:28,199 I guess I'll 2602 01:59:28,199 --> 01:59:31,639 just leave it to well I appreciate your 2603 01:59:31,639 --> 01:59:34,119 comments and I know we all take them 2604 01:59:34,119 --> 01:59:36,520 very seriously especially at the council 2605 01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:38,840 if you have um 2606 01:59:38,840 --> 01:59:42,320 specific uh amendments or uh items you 2607 01:59:42,320 --> 01:59:44,320 want to move around we're going to talk 2608 01:59:44,320 --> 01:59:48,079 about that once we get through all of uh 2609 01:59:48,079 --> 01:59:49,960 the sections which we are almost we're 2610 01:59:49,960 --> 01:59:52,079 getting very close to being can tell you 2611 01:59:52,079 --> 01:59:54,520 on these yeah we have a staff looked at 2612 01:59:54,520 --> 01:59:56,040 how much more can we get how much can we 2613 01:59:56,040 --> 01:59:58,800 move stuff up the other thing is is kind 2614 01:59:58,800 --> 02:00:00,840 of how we sell it is we also pick places 2615 02:00:00,840 --> 02:00:02,719 where the roads are in really bad shape 2616 02:00:02,719 --> 02:00:04,280 so that's the other selling point as you 2617 02:00:04,280 --> 02:00:05,639 get a new road out of it even though you 2618 02:00:05,639 --> 02:00:08,159 had to walk for a little while yeah 2619 02:00:08,159 --> 02:00:11,040 that's that's all all part of it I guess 2620 02:00:11,040 --> 02:00:13,679 what I would I'm just speaking generally 2621 02:00:13,679 --> 02:00:14,920 here and I don't know if I'm going to 2622 02:00:14,920 --> 02:00:20,679 make any the Motions here but I think if 2623 02:00:20,679 --> 02:00:23,159 we want to accelerate this 2624 02:00:23,159 --> 02:00:25,239 deal that's what we really want to do is 2625 02:00:25,239 --> 02:00:26,920 going to have to come out of some some 2626 02:00:26,920 --> 02:00:30,400 other program's hide here okay very 2627 02:00:30,400 --> 02:00:32,800 simple 2628 02:00:32,800 --> 02:00:34,800 and just 2629 02:00:34,800 --> 02:00:37,199 question whose Ox do we want to go if 2630 02:00:37,199 --> 02:00:39,400 for really really want to do something 2631 02:00:39,400 --> 02:00:41,040 about this we pick it up from what it is 2632 02:00:41,040 --> 02:00:43,119 but the way that I don't want to be too 2633 02:00:43,119 --> 02:00:47,079 critical here but the present Pace will 2634 02:00:47,079 --> 02:00:49,920 be we'll be 50 years getting this done 2635 02:00:49,920 --> 02:00:53,079 and I just think need to speed it up 2636 02:00:53,079 --> 02:00:55,000 again I think I'm going 2637 02:00:55,000 --> 02:01:00,719 to a little bit refer to the rest of the 2638 02:01:00,719 --> 02:01:04,960 committee my position is well known on 2639 02:01:04,960 --> 02:01:07,560 this if I were to do 2640 02:01:07,560 --> 02:01:11,960 it I would be taking monies probably out 2641 02:01:11,960 --> 02:01:14,040 of the the 2642 02:01:14,040 --> 02:01:16,320 streets and I'd probably taking money 2643 02:01:16,320 --> 02:01:19,310 out of 2644 02:01:19,320 --> 02:01:23,079 sidewalks he done 2645 02:01:23,079 --> 02:01:24,800 but again I'm I'm going to defer a 2646 02:01:24,800 --> 02:01:27,400 little bit to the the rest of the 2647 02:01:27,400 --> 02:01:30,320 committee if here well let's uh let's 2648 02:01:30,320 --> 02:01:33,239 defer the conversation um till we get 2649 02:01:33,239 --> 02:01:35,400 through uh the rest of the sections and 2650 02:01:35,400 --> 02:01:39,199 then uh I welcome uh discussion on this 2651 02:01:39,199 --> 02:01:41,639 yeah I just wanted to insert that there 2652 02:01:41,639 --> 02:01:44,280 I did have a question um for two of the 2653 02:01:44,280 --> 02:01:47,639 projects uh 61 and 62 Rosland and the 2654 02:01:47,639 --> 02:01:51,400 storm sewer extension to Merl the costs 2655 02:01:51,400 --> 02:01:53,440 for those two projects jumped 2656 02:01:53,440 --> 02:01:55,800 significantly from last year's budget to 2657 02:01:55,800 --> 02:01:58,400 this year's it's like John has said 2658 02:01:58,400 --> 02:02:00,560 these prices have been been going up and 2659 02:02:00,560 --> 02:02:03,920 as we get into from a planning level 2660 02:02:03,920 --> 02:02:06,920 cost opinion to an actual design 2661 02:02:06,920 --> 02:02:11,350 one they have they have gone 2662 02:02:11,360 --> 02:02:15,119 up prices only go one way and that's 2663 02:02:15,119 --> 02:02:18,440 up those two in particular almost didn't 2664 02:02:18,440 --> 02:02:19,800 quite double but got pretty close to 2665 02:02:19,800 --> 02:02:22,360 doubling so 2666 02:02:22,360 --> 02:02:24,599 Y and these are like I said these are 2667 02:02:24,599 --> 02:02:26,639 challenging projects and and they have 2668 02:02:26,639 --> 02:02:27,920 gone up you know we can still have a 2669 02:02:27,920 --> 02:02:29,520 chance to get some good bids like we did 2670 02:02:29,520 --> 02:02:32,000 on the aora Avenue project west of 86 2671 02:02:32,000 --> 02:02:34,480 but as I said before we need to budget 2672 02:02:34,480 --> 02:02:37,360 enough that if bids do come in high we 2673 02:02:37,360 --> 02:02:46,910 can still still do 2674 02:02:46,920 --> 02:02:51,040 projects right on to streets um so this 2675 02:02:51,040 --> 02:02:53,719 is our annual Street re rehabilitation 2676 02:02:53,719 --> 02:02:55,719 program or we call it our patching 2677 02:02:55,719 --> 02:02:58,280 program that we do every year um this 2678 02:02:58,280 --> 02:03:02,560 next year we're up in this area here so 2679 02:03:02,560 --> 02:03:04,960 we're north of Meredith south south of 2680 02:03:04,960 --> 02:03:07,040 Sutton Drive and kind of between 67th 2681 02:03:07,040 --> 02:03:09,400 and Merl hay so we'll be up in that area 2682 02:03:09,400 --> 02:03:12,480 of patching and then we'll also have one 2683 02:03:12,480 --> 02:03:16,000 as we come down to 128th in Douglas the 2684 02:03:16,000 --> 02:03:18,639 Timberline area we up in here between 2685 02:03:18,639 --> 02:03:21,079 Douglas and Tanglewood and then 128 over 2686 02:03:21,079 --> 02:03:24,920 to 127 so basically this Timberline area 2687 02:03:24,920 --> 02:03:26,560 just for a little additional information 2688 02:03:26,560 --> 02:03:29,280 but we typically do this um 2 and a half 2689 02:03:29,280 --> 02:03:37,189 million a year in in roadway 2690 02:03:37,199 --> 02:03:40,639 patches get on to I guess page 66 that's 2691 02:03:40,639 --> 02:03:44,880 our roora Avenue uh from U our on street 2692 02:03:44,880 --> 02:03:48,000 bike Lanes from 7th 86th Street so this 2693 02:03:48,000 --> 02:03:50,199 is one where we're looking to go from a 2694 02:03:50,199 --> 02:03:52,040 four-lane section to a three Lane Lane 2695 02:03:52,040 --> 02:03:54,119 section on Aurora between 86th Street 2696 02:03:54,119 --> 02:03:57,199 and 70th and then add at bike Lanes on 2697 02:03:57,199 --> 02:04:00,719 the outside um we've had two public 2698 02:04:00,719 --> 02:04:03,040 information meetings um they were 2699 02:04:03,040 --> 02:04:06,239 attended by the council and the mayor 2700 02:04:06,239 --> 02:04:08,360 some of them were able to attend even 2701 02:04:08,360 --> 02:04:10,320 both meetings so we've kind of gone 2702 02:04:10,320 --> 02:04:15,079 through got a lot of public comments on the project uh we then have followed 2703 02:04:15,079 --> 02:04:16,559 up with the council and got the 2704 02:04:16,559 --> 02:04:18,880 direction to at this point to continue 2705 02:04:18,880 --> 02:04:21,000 moving forward with our design so we've 2706 02:04:21,000 --> 02:04:22,440 been meeting with our consultant will 2707 02:04:22,440 --> 02:04:25,360 get going more on on this design just 2708 02:04:25,360 --> 02:04:27,800 want to note though for the public and 2709 02:04:27,800 --> 02:04:29,719 we said this at both of the public 2710 02:04:29,719 --> 02:04:31,800 meetings that they have the ability to 2711 02:04:31,800 --> 02:04:33,760 comment on this project when we have our 2712 02:04:33,760 --> 02:04:36,280 CIP public hearing with this committee 2713 02:04:36,280 --> 02:04:37,520 and then there'll be the other meeting 2714 02:04:37,520 --> 02:04:39,840 where the council takes up the CIP at 2715 02:04:39,840 --> 02:04:42,199 their public hearing and then if we are 2716 02:04:42,199 --> 02:04:44,360 still moving forward we'll bid the 2717 02:04:44,360 --> 02:04:45,760 project and then there'll be another 2718 02:04:45,760 --> 02:04:47,440 public hearing on it that the public has 2719 02:04:47,440 --> 02:04:49,960 a chance chance to comment so again 2720 02:04:49,960 --> 02:04:51,719 we've done a couple information meetings 2721 02:04:51,719 --> 02:04:53,199 just wants you know that there's still 2722 02:04:53,199 --> 02:04:55,400 plenty of time for the public to comment 2723 02:04:55,400 --> 02:04:59,270 on the 2724 02:04:59,280 --> 02:05:03,440 project what's been the reaction yeah um 2725 02:05:03,440 --> 02:05:05,199 there's been there's been some positive 2726 02:05:05,199 --> 02:05:06,400 comments and there's definitely been 2727 02:05:06,400 --> 02:05:09,559 some some negative comments 2728 02:05:09,559 --> 02:05:13,199 U so again there's there's some that 2729 02:05:13,199 --> 02:05:16,040 would prefer we we did nothing um 2730 02:05:16,040 --> 02:05:18,000 there's some from the biking community 2731 02:05:18,000 --> 02:05:20,119 that that like the I idea of this they 2732 02:05:20,119 --> 02:05:22,079 feel more comfortable having having the 2733 02:05:22,079 --> 02:05:24,280 actual Lanes out there and I think 2734 02:05:24,280 --> 02:05:25,880 probably the biggest thing we'll see 2735 02:05:25,880 --> 02:05:27,960 from this in my opinion is just the 2736 02:05:27,960 --> 02:05:29,559 safety Improvement of going from four 2737 02:05:29,559 --> 02:05:31,520 lanes to three lanes I think that's 2738 02:05:31,520 --> 02:05:33,280 going to help things it should slow down 2739 02:05:33,280 --> 02:05:35,280 traffic a little bit get them closer to 2740 02:05:35,280 --> 02:05:37,760 that 25 that's out there plus when you 2741 02:05:37,760 --> 02:05:39,239 narrow it up and have those bike Lanes 2742 02:05:39,239 --> 02:05:40,960 it's a shorter distance when you do have 2743 02:05:40,960 --> 02:05:42,920 to cross Aurora Avenue especially the 2744 02:05:42,920 --> 02:05:45,079 fact that we do have the schools 2745 02:05:45,079 --> 02:05:48,159 there yeah on this project um is there 2746 02:05:48,159 --> 02:05:51,199 any way to know how the majority of the 2747 02:05:51,199 --> 02:05:52,679 public kind of feels about it because 2748 02:05:52,679 --> 02:05:53,960 you get the people coming to these 2749 02:05:53,960 --> 02:05:55,760 meetings voicing an opinion one way or 2750 02:05:55,760 --> 02:05:58,400 the other and those are a small segment 2751 02:05:58,400 --> 02:06:00,079 but have have we really taken a look to 2752 02:06:00,079 --> 02:06:02,400 see if you know the general population 2753 02:06:02,400 --> 02:06:05,440 is in support of this we haven't done a 2754 02:06:05,440 --> 02:06:08,880 Citywide poll or anything like that 2755 02:06:08,880 --> 02:06:11,400 other than again we did have a lot of 2756 02:06:11,400 --> 02:06:12,840 public involvement when we did the 2757 02:06:12,840 --> 02:06:18,320 complete streets master plan which was part you know this was part of 2758 02:06:18,320 --> 02:06:21,639 it I think that in my time on the 2759 02:06:21,639 --> 02:06:24,199 Council this is the project that we've 2760 02:06:24,199 --> 02:06:27,199 probably invested the most in terms of 2761 02:06:27,199 --> 02:06:31,880 getting uh soliciting public comment um 2762 02:06:31,880 --> 02:06:33,520 because 2763 02:06:33,520 --> 02:06:36,960 um I think you know the complete streets 2764 02:06:36,960 --> 02:06:41,280 uh master plan existed prior to any of 2765 02:06:41,280 --> 02:06:43,040 the five of us serving on the council 2766 02:06:43,040 --> 02:06:46,159 although Pat did serve as the citizen as 2767 02:06:46,159 --> 02:06:48,440 a citizen on the committee and so we've 2768 02:06:48,440 --> 02:06:52,639 had a lot to learn um about that plan 2769 02:06:52,639 --> 02:06:56,719 and then you know I think we've pushed 2770 02:06:56,719 --> 02:06:58,960 this back I mean pushed this back 2771 02:06:58,960 --> 02:07:02,000 already a year or two in order to get 2772 02:07:02,000 --> 02:07:06,159 more public comment and we had two very 2773 02:07:06,159 --> 02:07:08,280 well attended public meetings that we 2774 02:07:08,280 --> 02:07:11,480 did a I think an extensive public 2775 02:07:11,480 --> 02:07:13,520 Outreach 2776 02:07:13,520 --> 02:07:18,800 um was it a perfect Outreach um no but 2777 02:07:18,800 --> 02:07:21,760 in short of going door too I don't know 2778 02:07:21,760 --> 02:07:23,159 that we could 2779 02:07:23,159 --> 02:07:26,320 do um better than what we've done I 2780 02:07:26,320 --> 02:07:30,520 don't know that's my opinion um it's a sensitive subject I mean this is 2781 02:07:30,520 --> 02:07:33,599 obviously sensitive sensitive people 2782 02:07:33,599 --> 02:07:36,320 have viewpoints so my my personal 2783 02:07:36,320 --> 02:07:39,880 opinion is that this is a street safety 2784 02:07:39,880 --> 02:07:43,960 Improvement project and bike lanes are 2785 02:07:43,960 --> 02:07:47,320 sidebar a sidebar part of it and we 2786 02:07:47,320 --> 02:07:51,599 probably went out selling it as a by 2787 02:07:51,599 --> 02:07:55,159 plane project and that got people riled 2788 02:07:55,159 --> 02:08:00,880 up to so to speak and um but I think we have a 2789 02:08:00,880 --> 02:08:03,639 safety um issues that we need to look at 2790 02:08:03,639 --> 02:08:05,760 on Aurora and going to a three lane 2791 02:08:05,760 --> 02:08:07,840 roadway is going to 2792 02:08:07,840 --> 02:08:12,040 address those safety issues so I don't I 2793 02:08:12,040 --> 02:08:15,079 don't know I mean I wish uh we maybe 2794 02:08:15,079 --> 02:08:17,320 rolled this whole thing out differently 2795 02:08:17,320 --> 02:08:20,760 five years ago I don't know um I do but 2796 02:08:20,760 --> 02:08:23,639 you know when when the public you know when we 2797 02:08:23,639 --> 02:08:25,199 were doing this stuff I mean I wasn't 2798 02:08:25,199 --> 02:08:26,440 even on the council but when the 2799 02:08:26,440 --> 02:08:28,320 complete streets plan I mean if you 2800 02:08:28,320 --> 02:08:30,239 lived in these neighborhoods you'd have 2801 02:08:30,239 --> 02:08:32,520 no idea really that this was going to be 2802 02:08:32,520 --> 02:08:35,559 relevant to you to go to the meeting to 2803 02:08:35,559 --> 02:08:39,040 give your input so I think we've 2804 02:08:39,040 --> 02:08:42,520 retroactively um made an effort to go 2805 02:08:42,520 --> 02:08:44,320 into these neighborhoods and going 2806 02:08:44,320 --> 02:08:47,079 forward when we do different projects 2807 02:08:47,079 --> 02:08:48,599 related to complete streets we're going 2808 02:08:48,599 --> 02:08:51,880 to do a much more intensive 2809 02:08:51,880 --> 02:08:54,239 job of communicating what we're doing I 2810 02:08:54,239 --> 02:08:55,320 don't know if that answered your 2811 02:08:55,320 --> 02:08:58,280 question but this is something that 2812 02:08:58,280 --> 02:09:02,239 I've invested a lot of mental energy on 2813 02:09:02,239 --> 02:09:05,280 how to do this right and I mean I think 2814 02:09:05,280 --> 02:09:08,199 we've done the best that we can do and 2815 02:09:08,199 --> 02:09:12,520 we'll see how this moves forward um you 2816 02:09:12,520 --> 02:09:14,400 know just this weekend there was a lot 2817 02:09:14,400 --> 02:09:17,159 of people talking on Facebook about it 2818 02:09:17,159 --> 02:09:21,520 so um we'll see we'll see what happens 2819 02:09:21,520 --> 02:09:23,040 we get a few people at the next meeting 2820 02:09:23,040 --> 02:09:26,760 then on this yeah we could yeah and that 2821 02:09:26,760 --> 02:09:29,079 would be fine it would be great to get 2822 02:09:29,079 --> 02:09:31,719 uh additional comments but um I do think 2823 02:09:31,719 --> 02:09:33,199 there's been a little bit confusion 2824 02:09:33,199 --> 02:09:35,079 about this project on the part of the 2825 02:09:35,079 --> 02:09:36,800 public and with all du respect I just 2826 02:09:36,800 --> 02:09:38,320 don't think this name is really the 2827 02:09:38,320 --> 02:09:40,040 right name for this project this is a 2828 02:09:40,040 --> 02:09:43,639 complete streets or road diet um it is 2829 02:09:43,639 --> 02:09:46,079 really a safety driven and that's one of 2830 02:09:46,079 --> 02:09:48,480 the aspects of complete streets uh is to 2831 02:09:48,480 --> 02:09:51,599 improve safety for pedestrians as well 2832 02:09:51,599 --> 02:09:54,239 for cyclists and I think there was a lot 2833 02:09:54,239 --> 02:09:56,280 of confusion about who these bike lanes 2834 02:09:56,280 --> 02:09:58,760 were for I think people had the 2835 02:09:58,760 --> 02:10:01,199 impression that we were uh proposing 2836 02:10:01,199 --> 02:10:04,079 these bike Lanes to be used by children 2837 02:10:04,079 --> 02:10:05,960 and that there might be some limitation 2838 02:10:05,960 --> 02:10:08,559 placed on the sidewalks for their use by 2839 02:10:08,559 --> 02:10:11,280 children with bikes and none of that is 2840 02:10:11,280 --> 02:10:14,760 the fact and so I'm hoping that if we do 2841 02:10:14,760 --> 02:10:17,239 get an opportunity we can clarify some 2842 02:10:17,239 --> 02:10:19,079 of that a little better and perhaps 2843 02:10:19,079 --> 02:10:20,719 reflect some of the safety data that's 2844 02:10:20,719 --> 02:10:23,159 out there these are not big experiments 2845 02:10:23,159 --> 02:10:24,400 these have been done all over the 2846 02:10:24,400 --> 02:10:26,840 country they've been highly successful 2847 02:10:26,840 --> 02:10:28,719 uh and their safety record is pretty 2848 02:10:28,719 --> 02:10:30,599 solid but we have not really presented 2849 02:10:30,599 --> 02:10:33,239 data yet on that and that might be a 2850 02:10:33,239 --> 02:10:34,920 helpful thing for us to do too so I 2851 02:10:34,920 --> 02:10:36,800 believe that staff is trying to put 2852 02:10:36,800 --> 02:10:38,440 together a hand out that will help 2853 02:10:38,440 --> 02:10:40,639 clarify some of those things that I 2854 02:10:40,639 --> 02:10:42,400 think got a little bit confused in the 2855 02:10:42,400 --> 02:10:44,960 public uh meeting which can happen you 2856 02:10:44,960 --> 02:10:46,920 know people have different perceptions 2857 02:10:46,920 --> 02:10:49,119 about uh what these are and what they 2858 02:10:49,119 --> 02:10:52,480 mean so I'm hopeful that the the summary 2859 02:10:52,480 --> 02:10:54,639 bullets around the safety piece and the 2860 02:10:54,639 --> 02:10:57,079 data that is out there can be compiled 2861 02:10:57,079 --> 02:10:59,400 in a way that'll be meaningful to people 2862 02:10:59,400 --> 02:11:02,599 and I think the other thing that just I 2863 02:11:02,599 --> 02:11:04,400 think it's on the same page with what 2864 02:11:04,400 --> 02:11:05,840 everything you've just said is the 2865 02:11:05,840 --> 02:11:08,719 importance of community input regardless 2866 02:11:08,719 --> 02:11:11,000 yes and that if there is a widespread 2867 02:11:11,000 --> 02:11:14,320 Community dis agreement with a project 2868 02:11:14,320 --> 02:11:15,199 going 2869 02:11:15,199 --> 02:11:18,320 forward allowing the citizens to 2870 02:11:18,320 --> 02:11:21,639 vocalize that to listen to what they say 2871 02:11:21,639 --> 02:11:24,400 and not just do it from a hey we check 2872 02:11:24,400 --> 02:11:26,599 that box um if we're going to ask for 2873 02:11:26,599 --> 02:11:27,840 Community input it's something that we 2874 02:11:27,840 --> 02:11:29,320 need to make sure that we're taking into 2875 02:11:29,320 --> 02:11:33,199 account um as uh you know people on this 2876 02:11:33,199 --> 02:11:35,040 committee city council whoever you are 2877 02:11:35,040 --> 02:11:37,520 in government you know we're we we've 2878 02:11:37,520 --> 02:11:40,320 got to be able to do that and it can't 2879 02:11:40,320 --> 02:11:43,480 be presented in a way that's like hey we 2880 02:11:43,480 --> 02:11:44,719 know better than you do even though 2881 02:11:44,719 --> 02:11:46,480 you're really mad right now that's going 2882 02:11:46,480 --> 02:11:49,440 to help you cool down yeah um that's not 2883 02:11:49,440 --> 02:11:51,760 going to work and so I just think 2884 02:11:51,760 --> 02:11:54,159 this my first year on this committee 2885 02:11:54,159 --> 02:11:56,760 four years ago um and then the second 2886 02:11:56,760 --> 02:11:59,440 three years ago this mentioned this to 2887 02:11:59,440 --> 02:12:02,400 some people and fireworks like people I 2888 02:12:02,400 --> 02:12:05,199 had no idea would be so passionate about 2889 02:12:05,199 --> 02:12:06,520 a street and a bike lane and you're 2890 02:12:06,520 --> 02:12:08,239 right it was presented as bike Lanes 2891 02:12:08,239 --> 02:12:11,079 that's what this was sold at including 2892 02:12:11,079 --> 02:12:15,239 another section of of cheros um on 70th 2893 02:12:15,239 --> 02:12:19,040 and so I just think it's my big thing is 2894 02:12:19,040 --> 02:12:21,159 safety my big thing is bike right away 2895 02:12:21,159 --> 02:12:22,880 Auto right of way making sure everybody 2896 02:12:22,880 --> 02:12:24,000 knows what they're supposed to do when 2897 02:12:24,000 --> 02:12:25,320 they're supposed to do it because 2898 02:12:25,320 --> 02:12:28,199 generally people don't and or they think 2899 02:12:28,199 --> 02:12:31,119 they do or they ignore it and so we just 2900 02:12:31,119 --> 02:12:33,040 have to be mindful of all those things 2901 02:12:33,040 --> 02:12:34,760 and if if we're asking for input we have 2902 02:12:34,760 --> 02:12:36,719 to make sure that we actually really are 2903 02:12:36,719 --> 02:12:38,599 taking it to heart we've taken these 2904 02:12:38,599 --> 02:12:41,800 extra steps as we've said for two years 2905 02:12:41,800 --> 02:12:44,480 to do that that shouldn't be in vain 2906 02:12:44,480 --> 02:12:47,440 either yeah and to build off a point you 2907 02:12:47,440 --> 02:12:49,920 were making um we've discussed at the 2908 02:12:49,920 --> 02:12:51,880 council level already the the importance 2909 02:12:51,880 --> 02:12:54,320 of public education around this because 2910 02:12:54,320 --> 02:12:56,440 some of the discomfort is people who 2911 02:12:56,440 --> 02:12:58,920 have driven this road for a long time 2912 02:12:58,920 --> 02:13:00,719 they don't see cyclists on there because 2913 02:13:00,719 --> 02:13:03,679 there are not those bike lanes and so 2914 02:13:03,679 --> 02:13:06,079 they're uncomfortable and concerned 2915 02:13:06,079 --> 02:13:08,639 about their ability to drive through 2916 02:13:08,639 --> 02:13:11,679 that area if cyclists are present that's 2917 02:13:11,679 --> 02:13:15,559 a public education piece uh that can be 2918 02:13:15,559 --> 02:13:17,800 um we can be helpful there by pulling 2919 02:13:17,800 --> 02:13:19,639 together materials that help people 2920 02:13:19,639 --> 02:13:21,679 understand how to make their returns and 2921 02:13:21,679 --> 02:13:24,079 how to do that driving with that so 2922 02:13:24,079 --> 02:13:26,920 there's aspects to this that we that go 2923 02:13:26,920 --> 02:13:29,079 beyond the actual engineering piece of 2924 02:13:29,079 --> 02:13:30,320 this that we need to get our arms 2925 02:13:30,320 --> 02:13:33,280 wrapped around Robin I think your point 2926 02:13:33,280 --> 02:13:39,800 about just being intentional about our getting public input and and taking 2927 02:13:39,800 --> 02:13:42,159 it to heart and not just checking the 2928 02:13:42,159 --> 02:13:45,320 box I mean that is is a real priority of 2929 02:13:45,320 --> 02:13:47,840 the council as we've laid out in our 2930 02:13:47,840 --> 02:13:51,679 strategic plan um that we finished this 2931 02:13:51,679 --> 02:13:54,119 year um you know just 2932 02:13:54,119 --> 02:13:57,960 communication uh in every possible way 2933 02:13:57,960 --> 02:13:59,559 with the community within the council 2934 02:13:59,559 --> 02:14:03,199 within the city uh staff and just doing 2935 02:14:03,199 --> 02:14:05,400 a better job and you know this is a 2936 02:14:05,400 --> 02:14:08,719 prime example of where we can you know 2937 02:14:08,719 --> 02:14:10,920 could have done a better job to start 2938 02:14:10,920 --> 02:14:14,480 with but we are getting better as we 2939 02:14:14,480 --> 02:14:17,800 move forward with this and um you know 2940 02:14:17,800 --> 02:14:20,320 the next complete streets project that 2941 02:14:20,320 --> 02:14:23,679 comes to us will have learned some 2942 02:14:23,679 --> 02:14:28,400 valuable lessons um to um gain public 2943 02:14:28,400 --> 02:14:30,320 input and I I appreciate all those 2944 02:14:30,320 --> 02:14:31,679 comments and what we could have done 2945 02:14:31,679 --> 02:14:33,679 differently in hindsight so this will 2946 02:14:33,679 --> 02:14:35,679 hopefully be the only one that is 2947 02:14:35,679 --> 02:14:38,360 experiencing this right so for me I 2948 02:14:38,360 --> 02:14:40,480 guess I'm just a little torn of you know 2949 02:14:40,480 --> 02:14:42,320 pushing for the approval of something if 2950 02:14:42,320 --> 02:14:44,840 not knowing is it overwhelmingly you 2951 02:14:44,840 --> 02:14:47,400 know in support of or not in support of 2952 02:14:47,400 --> 02:14:49,800 by everyone that's going to be using it 2953 02:14:49,800 --> 02:14:51,199 I I think it makes sense is this 2954 02:14:51,199 --> 02:14:54,840 happening before the 70th Street project 2955 02:14:54,840 --> 02:14:58,000 they're together they're together okay 2956 02:14:58,000 --> 02:14:59,800 because again this one here is a little 2957 02:14:59,800 --> 02:15:01,639 more involved in there's we'll Mill off 2958 02:15:01,639 --> 02:15:03,440 the asphalt surface and then put down a 2959 02:15:03,440 --> 02:15:05,360 new asphalt surface so the Paya markings 2960 02:15:05,360 --> 02:15:07,159 are clean not all scarred up the 2961 02:15:07,159 --> 02:15:10,239 pavement versus on 70th is being done 2962 02:15:10,239 --> 02:15:11,599 this concrete road will be done with 2963 02:15:11,599 --> 02:15:13,639 just pavement markings yeah because I 2964 02:15:13,639 --> 02:15:15,280 know that's all kind of linking back to 2965 02:15:15,280 --> 02:15:16,559 where we're doing all the work from 2966 02:15:16,559 --> 02:15:18,679 Urbandale drive on around there so and 2967 02:15:18,679 --> 02:15:21,480 linking that that system correct correct 2968 02:15:21,480 --> 02:15:23,320 yep we recently we'll get to the 70th am 2969 02:15:23,320 --> 02:15:24,719 minute but had down here on Urbandale 2970 02:15:24,719 --> 02:15:28,960 Avenue so we got the trail Connection in 2971 02:15:28,960 --> 02:15:32,360 here and just real quickly uh toward the 2972 02:15:32,360 --> 02:15:34,440 U point of trying to make sure that 2973 02:15:34,440 --> 02:15:36,760 we're not just taking this public input 2974 02:15:36,760 --> 02:15:39,960 to check a box um engineering went back 2975 02:15:39,960 --> 02:15:42,760 and did some additional look at the 72nd 2976 02:15:42,760 --> 02:15:45,599 and Aurora or 70th and Aurora 2977 02:15:45,599 --> 02:15:48,119 intersection uh based on commentary and 2978 02:15:48,119 --> 02:15:51,000 are still looking at 75th in Aurora so 2979 02:15:51,000 --> 02:15:52,840 kind of reviewing uh some of the 2980 02:15:52,840 --> 02:15:54,559 comments that we heard based on some 2981 02:15:54,559 --> 02:15:57,840 concerns uh to make sure that the design 2982 02:15:57,840 --> 02:16:00,199 work is really where it needs to be to 2983 02:16:00,199 --> 02:16:02,760 the best of our ability to know yeah I 2984 02:16:02,760 --> 02:16:04,119 think the fact that this is happening 2985 02:16:04,119 --> 02:16:06,280 right by that main thoroughfare with all 2986 02:16:06,280 --> 02:16:08,079 the schools is kind of the contentious 2987 02:16:08,079 --> 02:16:11,159 point right right well and I was talking 2988 02:16:11,159 --> 02:16:13,480 to Curtis about this today I mean if you 2989 02:16:13,480 --> 02:16:17,520 drive down Ashworth in West de Mo in the 2990 02:16:17,520 --> 02:16:21,360 you know just beginning parts from east 2991 02:16:21,360 --> 02:16:23,400 to west and West to Mo you know they've 2992 02:16:23,400 --> 02:16:24,960 just completed I don't know I don't know 2993 02:16:24,960 --> 02:16:26,960 if there's bike Lanes I don't know but 2994 02:16:26,960 --> 02:16:28,760 they've you know gone from four lanes to 2995 02:16:28,760 --> 02:16:32,000 three lanes and it's just like a sigh of 2996 02:16:32,000 --> 02:16:35,679 relief driving down that road um so I'm 2997 02:16:35,679 --> 02:16:38,800 looking I mean looking forward to 2998 02:16:38,800 --> 02:16:42,200 getting that um for everyone hopefully 2999 02:16:42,200 --> 02:16:45,679 we'll get there um with this project but 3000 02:16:45,679 --> 02:16:48,280 I mean I've gone back and forth as the 3001 02:16:48,280 --> 02:16:50,080 council can attest on whether or not I 3002 02:16:50,080 --> 02:16:51,679 want to do this project project and I've 3003 02:16:51,679 --> 02:16:55,120 definitely come around to I think for 3004 02:16:55,120 --> 02:16:58,080 safety purposes for pedestrians for our 3005 02:16:58,080 --> 02:17:01,359 new drivers for all of our drivers we 3006 02:17:01,359 --> 02:17:03,760 need to do this project so if it's if 3007 02:17:03,760 --> 02:17:08,639 it's for safety purposes like the the program title is on street bike 3008 02:17:08,639 --> 02:17:11,200 Lanes the description the first line is 3009 02:17:11,200 --> 02:17:13,200 you will add bike Lanes there's there's 3010 02:17:13,200 --> 02:17:14,679 nothing in the justification that says 3011 02:17:14,679 --> 02:17:17,240 anything about safety exactly this is a 3012 02:17:17,240 --> 02:17:19,040 mmark in terms of how this has been 3013 02:17:19,040 --> 02:17:21,920 written up in the CIP I believe 3014 02:17:21,920 --> 02:17:23,800 I that would be when we get to making a 3015 02:17:23,800 --> 02:17:25,920 motion I'd like to make a motion related 3016 02:17:25,920 --> 02:17:27,599 to that that sounds like a really good 3017 02:17:27,599 --> 02:17:29,479 plan 3018 02:17:29,479 --> 02:17:32,000 okay are there any other more I me we 3019 02:17:32,000 --> 02:17:33,439 can come back to this it sounds like 3020 02:17:33,439 --> 02:17:36,519 we'll have a Amendment um anything else 3021 02:17:36,519 --> 02:17:38,319 related to this project or we can move 3022 02:17:38,319 --> 02:17:41,479 on to another section of Aurora no I 3023 02:17:41,479 --> 02:17:42,599 agree with the both of you because even 3024 02:17:42,599 --> 02:17:44,040 when we talked about this project last 3025 02:17:44,040 --> 02:17:45,800 year it was more about bike lanes and 3026 02:17:45,800 --> 02:17:49,389 safety 3027 02:17:49,399 --> 02:17:53,319 so next one is page 67 which is an oute 3028 02:17:53,319 --> 02:17:57,790 for Roar 3029 02:17:57,800 --> 02:18:01,080 Avenue so page 68 is our community 3030 02:18:01,080 --> 02:18:03,920 entrance sign just a little update so 3031 02:18:03,920 --> 02:18:06,880 2023 just recently completed we have one 3032 02:18:06,880 --> 02:18:08,760 up at Northwest Urbandale drive by the 3033 02:18:08,760 --> 02:18:11,760 interstate up by north of 3034 02:18:11,760 --> 02:18:16,639 Target um and then we did one at 154th 3035 02:18:16,639 --> 02:18:17,800 kind of tell everybody as they're coming 3036 02:18:17,800 --> 02:18:19,880 out of Johnson or Grimes into Urbandale 3037 02:18:19,880 --> 02:18:21,599 that you're in Urbandale 3038 02:18:21,599 --> 02:18:23,880 and then the southwest corner of the 86 3039 02:18:23,880 --> 02:18:26,040 Street interchange we just get finished 3040 02:18:26,040 --> 02:18:28,240 up our signed there then we have under 3041 02:18:28,240 --> 02:18:30,319 construction our current project is 3042 02:18:30,319 --> 02:18:31,880 we're up on our North Corporate limits 3043 02:18:31,880 --> 02:18:34,840 at 128 street so up where the new new 3044 02:18:34,840 --> 02:18:36,760 warehouses were built up on the Grimes 3045 02:18:36,760 --> 02:18:39,760 border we got a sign there and then on 3046 02:18:39,760 --> 02:18:42,200 104th in Hickman by CarMax we also have 3047 02:18:42,200 --> 02:18:44,559 a sign sign there letting you know that 3048 02:18:44,559 --> 02:18:47,240 you're on Hickman coming into Urbandale 3049 02:18:47,240 --> 02:18:48,559 and we'll just we're looking to continue 3050 02:18:48,559 --> 02:18:53,709 to keep keep adding adding those signs 3051 02:18:53,719 --> 02:18:57,880 here page 69 is is a maintenance or 3052 02:18:57,880 --> 02:18:59,639 preservation we call it so we are 3053 02:18:59,639 --> 02:19:02,319 looking looking at doing patching on 3054 02:19:02,319 --> 02:19:04,760 Douglas Avenue and Douglas Parkway on 3055 02:19:04,760 --> 02:19:07,280 both sides of the interchange from1 3056 02:19:07,280 --> 02:19:11,469 Street out to 121st 3057 02:19:11,479 --> 02:19:16,760 Street John how is that um gonna tie 3058 02:19:16,760 --> 02:19:20,280 up traffic we still will do it one lane 3059 02:19:20,280 --> 02:19:22,080 at a time okay because I'm thinking 3060 02:19:22,080 --> 02:19:26,280 about Hickman and people oh that correct 3061 02:19:26,280 --> 02:19:27,960 I've been again based on all the 3062 02:19:27,960 --> 02:19:30,639 information I have on the schedule for 3063 02:19:30,639 --> 02:19:32,399 how Hickman's going I've been working 3064 02:19:32,399 --> 02:19:34,880 these projects all around that so that 3065 02:19:34,880 --> 02:19:37,000 it's not not happening while it's a 3066 02:19:37,000 --> 02:19:39,479 detour or anything like that it's like 3067 02:19:39,479 --> 02:19:41,000 I'll probably get burned and things will 3068 02:19:41,000 --> 02:19:43,359 run slow or long and then it it'll 3069 02:19:43,359 --> 02:19:45,280 they'll overlap but my my goal right now 3070 02:19:45,280 --> 02:19:46,479 is I've been looking at all that and 3071 02:19:46,479 --> 02:19:53,270 trying to kind of pace that all together 3072 02:19:53,280 --> 02:19:56,960 um so the 70th Street Redevelopment or 3073 02:19:56,960 --> 02:19:59,720 guess page 70 Douglas Avenue um 3074 02:19:59,720 --> 02:20:01,720 basically this one we've hired a 3075 02:20:01,720 --> 02:20:03,840 consultant to kind of help us figure out 3076 02:20:03,840 --> 02:20:05,520 what what the downtown master plan 3077 02:20:05,520 --> 02:20:07,160 should look like and any improvements 3078 02:20:07,160 --> 02:20:08,640 with Douglas or the surrounding 3079 02:20:08,640 --> 02:20:10,560 neighborhood we're looking at it's 3080 02:20:10,560 --> 02:20:13,080 probably got six to eight months left to 3081 02:20:13,080 --> 02:20:15,840 complete that process so that next year 3082 02:20:15,840 --> 02:20:17,520 we'll be able to come back with very 3083 02:20:17,520 --> 02:20:20,080 specific projects to add into the CIP 3084 02:20:20,080 --> 02:20:22,840 related to kind of revitalizing um the 3085 02:20:22,840 --> 02:20:25,359 downtown area that's one of the main 3086 02:20:25,359 --> 02:20:27,160 goals we've stressed to that consultant 3087 02:20:27,160 --> 02:20:29,760 is we need tangible projects that we can 3088 02:20:29,760 --> 02:20:32,680 start doing to make improvements down 3089 02:20:32,680 --> 02:20:37,120 there so more to come but nothing really to share right now other 3090 02:20:37,120 --> 02:20:38,920 than there's been a lot of public 3091 02:20:38,920 --> 02:20:40,479 meetings with the downtown groups and 3092 02:20:40,479 --> 02:20:42,080 there'll be plenty more public meetings 3093 02:20:42,080 --> 02:20:44,720 for people to provide input and we I 3094 02:20:44,720 --> 02:20:47,359 guess we just completed a survey a 3095 02:20:47,359 --> 02:20:55,110 Citywide survey as well for input 3096 02:20:55,120 --> 02:20:58,319 7 page 71 is the Douglas Avenue 3097 02:20:58,319 --> 02:21:01,359 urbanization so I was just talking about 3098 02:21:01,359 --> 02:21:04,359 that a little bit so our last of the 3099 02:21:04,359 --> 02:21:07,600 physically urbanizing I the streets is 3100 02:21:07,600 --> 02:21:09,560 being worked on now hopefully completed 3101 02:21:09,560 --> 02:21:12,040 in the spring that's from 86 Street that 3102 02:21:12,040 --> 02:21:14,960 came down into the elm Elm Drive area 3103 02:21:14,960 --> 02:21:16,520 they've completed most of the outside 3104 02:21:16,520 --> 02:21:18,520 they just have a little bit more curb 3105 02:21:18,520 --> 02:21:20,120 and gutter in the filling of the medians 3106 02:21:20,120 --> 02:21:22,160 to do in the spring and then of course 3107 02:21:22,160 --> 02:21:23,640 we still have the Reconstruction of a 3108 02:21:23,640 --> 02:21:26,640 portion of 82nd street but are coming up 3109 02:21:26,640 --> 02:21:31,399 next phase which is in in 3110 02:21:31,399 --> 02:21:35,160 26 um we recently were at the creek out 3111 02:21:35,160 --> 02:21:36,920 towards 100 Street we did some tree 3112 02:21:36,920 --> 02:21:38,720 plantings and beautification in this 3113 02:21:38,720 --> 02:21:41,080 area in the past we had done it out at 3114 02:21:41,080 --> 02:21:42,640 the Douglas interchange so our next 3115 02:21:42,640 --> 02:21:45,640 piece in 26 is to tie those two pieces 3116 02:21:45,640 --> 02:21:47,760 together um this one will be a little 3117 02:21:47,760 --> 02:21:49,439 different than the others in the sense 3118 02:21:49,439 --> 02:21:51,439 that we'll have a lot more um 3119 02:21:51,439 --> 02:21:52,680 involvement and Outreach with the 3120 02:21:52,680 --> 02:21:54,080 businesses we knew that when we were 3121 02:21:54,080 --> 02:21:56,439 doing the original business or you know 3122 02:21:56,439 --> 02:21:59,000 the original plan to come come figure it 3123 02:21:59,000 --> 02:22:01,280 out they just had concerns about trees 3124 02:22:01,280 --> 02:22:02,600 size of trees in front of their 3125 02:22:02,600 --> 02:22:04,880 businesses and things so we will involve 3126 02:22:04,880 --> 02:22:09,160 the businesses again to come up with our plan through here so our next 3127 02:22:09,160 --> 02:22:10,760 step will be to hire a consultant to 3128 02:22:10,760 --> 02:22:15,870 start that 3129 02:22:15,880 --> 02:22:19,280 process so page 72 it's one that you 3130 02:22:19,280 --> 02:22:21,160 just mentioned about coordinating with 3131 02:22:21,160 --> 02:22:24,200 detours um we're looking to replace the 3132 02:22:24,200 --> 02:22:26,319 railroad crossing on Douglas just west 3133 02:22:26,319 --> 02:22:29,800 of 100 Street based on all the detour 3134 02:22:29,800 --> 02:22:31,560 that are going on and conversations that 3135 02:22:31,560 --> 02:22:33,680 we've had had with the the dot and their 3136 02:22:33,680 --> 02:22:35,680 Consulting it looks like the spring of 3137 02:22:35,680 --> 02:22:38,720 2027 is our one window to do this 3138 02:22:38,720 --> 02:22:41,160 project or wait another two three years 3139 02:22:41,160 --> 02:22:43,479 or a couple years to get to it so this 3140 02:22:43,479 --> 02:22:46,160 should work with their their timing um 3141 02:22:46,160 --> 02:22:47,800 so you've already been in conversation 3142 02:22:47,800 --> 02:22:50,000 with the railroad then correct and the 3143 02:22:50,000 --> 02:22:52,160 good part about this is this is one 3144 02:22:52,160 --> 02:22:54,040 where it goes through the do but it's a 3145 02:22:54,040 --> 02:22:57,040 grant process so the do pays 60% the 3146 02:22:57,040 --> 02:22:59,760 railroad pays 20% and we pay 3147 02:22:59,760 --> 02:23:03,120 20% so again yep we've had conversations 3148 02:23:03,120 --> 02:23:05,160 on trying to work through scheduling and 3149 02:23:05,160 --> 02:23:06,760 everything but we have officially obtain 3150 02:23:06,760 --> 02:23:09,120 the grant which has the railroad on the 3151 02:23:09,120 --> 02:23:12,040 hook the way it typically works is um 3152 02:23:12,040 --> 02:23:13,720 they'll remove the tracks we'll do some 3153 02:23:13,720 --> 02:23:15,520 asphalt work underneath and the railroad 3154 02:23:15,520 --> 02:23:17,600 comes in and puts the tracks back and 3155 02:23:17,600 --> 02:23:19,680 then we do the the transition next to 3156 02:23:19,680 --> 02:23:21,840 the track so it's a joint joint effort 3157 02:23:21,840 --> 02:23:23,000 with the 3158 02:23:23,000 --> 02:23:25,840 railroad quick question for you um with 3159 02:23:25,840 --> 02:23:29,240 the Douglas Avenue modification say it's 3160 02:23:29,240 --> 02:23:31,080 ending at Elm right now what happens 3161 02:23:31,080 --> 02:23:33,520 east of elm or is that kind of part of 3162 02:23:33,520 --> 02:23:36,120 the that's that's already has the curban 3163 02:23:36,120 --> 02:23:38,319 gutter it's not a rural section anymore 3164 02:23:38,319 --> 02:23:40,479 so we've done we've basically when we 3165 02:23:40,479 --> 02:23:42,080 call it the urbanization we're removing 3166 02:23:42,080 --> 02:23:43,920 the rural cross-section of it where it 3167 02:23:43,920 --> 02:23:45,880 has the ditches and no storms through we 3168 02:23:45,880 --> 02:23:47,399 we're filling in those ditches adding 3169 02:23:47,399 --> 02:23:49,560 curb and gutter and and the intakes and 3170 02:23:49,560 --> 02:23:50,880 things so that's that's what we're 3171 02:23:50,880 --> 02:23:55,640 really doing is taking away that rural feel and making it more urban 3172 02:23:55,640 --> 02:23:57,920 as it's in town so basically as we get 3173 02:23:57,920 --> 02:24:00,080 down to Elm it was already curved the 3174 02:24:00,080 --> 02:24:01,319 rest of the way 3175 02:24:01,319 --> 02:24:03,439 East and I guess we've been working on 3176 02:24:03,439 --> 02:24:05,200 this you know from the interstate in 3177 02:24:05,200 --> 02:24:08,439 over the last probably 10 years or so 3178 02:24:08,439 --> 02:24:09,800 yeah we were just talking about the the 3179 02:24:09,800 --> 02:24:11,840 downtown Redevelopment right so that's 3180 02:24:11,840 --> 02:24:13,600 kind of the entrance in and I just 3181 02:24:13,600 --> 02:24:14,720 didn't know if there was anything kind 3182 02:24:14,720 --> 02:24:17,520 of planned for that last stretch to oh 3183 02:24:17,520 --> 02:24:18,840 that that's to be determined that's part 3184 02:24:18,840 --> 02:24:21,120 of the study is it does the lane 3185 02:24:21,120 --> 02:24:23,760 configurations change do the sidewalks 3186 02:24:23,760 --> 02:24:25,439 how how is it going to function what 3187 02:24:25,439 --> 02:24:27,359 kind of amenities can be added so y 3188 02:24:27,359 --> 02:24:29,080 That's all still still being worked on 3189 02:24:29,080 --> 02:24:30,240 so that's kind of contingent on the 3190 02:24:30,240 --> 02:24:36,150 master plan taking place correct 3191 02:24:36,160 --> 02:24:39,840 yes um on page 73 this is another 3192 02:24:39,840 --> 02:24:42,240 maintenance project on Douglas Parkway 3193 02:24:42,240 --> 02:24:46,240 from 128 Street back West to the creek 3194 02:24:46,240 --> 02:24:48,319 um we are fortunate enough we received 3195 02:24:48,319 --> 02:24:50,600 500,000 in the surface transportation 3196 02:24:50,600 --> 02:24:53,439 block grant funding for this project 3197 02:24:53,439 --> 02:24:59,790 which we do have planned in 3198 02:24:59,800 --> 02:25:02,680 27 one I'd mentioned before it's a new 3199 02:25:02,680 --> 02:25:05,800 in the CIP on page 74 but it's the 3200 02:25:05,800 --> 02:25:07,680 Reconstruction of the Hickman frontage 3201 02:25:07,680 --> 02:25:10,080 road so again we're just west of our 3202 02:25:10,080 --> 02:25:12,600 parks and Public Works um this this 3203 02:25:12,600 --> 02:25:14,399 Frontage Road's in rough shape so we'll 3204 02:25:14,399 --> 02:25:16,359 reconstruct that which will allow us to 3205 02:25:16,359 --> 02:25:19,000 use that um the continue connection of 3206 02:25:19,000 --> 02:25:21,439 the trails along with with uh improving 3207 02:25:21,439 --> 02:25:24,080 the sidewalk connection 3208 02:25:24,080 --> 02:25:30,230 here so that's planned in 3209 02:25:30,240 --> 02:25:35,359 2028 page 75 is the Hickman interchange 3210 02:25:35,359 --> 02:25:36,880 I'll go in a little more detail that in 3211 02:25:36,880 --> 02:25:39,279 a minute just wanted to point out you'll 3212 02:25:39,279 --> 02:25:42,880 see there the uh the sheet itself 3213 02:25:42,880 --> 02:25:44,600 probably has a lot different format than 3214 02:25:44,600 --> 02:25:47,160 last year um kind of one of those things 3215 02:25:47,160 --> 02:25:48,960 it kind of gets misnomer or you know 3216 02:25:48,960 --> 02:25:50,680 like when the no is doing stuff they see 3217 02:25:50,680 --> 02:25:52,840 our total amount of 100 million we 3218 02:25:52,840 --> 02:25:53,960 changed this up to make sure it was 3219 02:25:53,960 --> 02:25:56,680 clear we don't have 100 million the dot 3220 02:25:56,680 --> 02:25:58,920 has like 85 million of this project so 3221 02:25:58,920 --> 02:26:00,640 it doesn't look like when they started 3222 02:26:00,640 --> 02:26:02,399 doing comparisons of each City and their 3223 02:26:02,399 --> 02:26:04,720 cips and how much they're doing and you 3224 02:26:04,720 --> 02:26:06,840 know Walky did it like us you got walk 3225 02:26:06,840 --> 02:26:08,840 and Urbandale with you know several 3226 02:26:08,840 --> 02:26:10,520 hundred million going on and then you 3227 02:26:10,520 --> 02:26:13,359 got West de you know with with you know 3228 02:26:13,359 --> 02:26:15,800 50 million it just kind of skews it so 3229 02:26:15,800 --> 02:26:18,560 we we reconfigured the page that if if 3230 02:26:18,560 --> 02:26:25,200 we are not the lead on the project we are just really putting our numbers that are our costs up into 3231 02:26:25,200 --> 02:26:28,520 the CIP so again but then later down in 3232 02:26:28,520 --> 02:26:30,240 the in the text is where we break it 3233 02:26:30,240 --> 02:26:32,760 down to you know the do is 85 million 3234 02:26:32,760 --> 02:26:34,800 Clive has 4 million and we have four 3235 02:26:34,800 --> 02:26:36,960 million plus the grants we've received 3236 02:26:36,960 --> 02:26:38,680 so just to maybe make it a little bit 3237 02:26:38,680 --> 02:26:41,240 more of a truer document on what are the 3238 02:26:41,240 --> 02:26:44,279 city's costs and projects we are doing 3239 02:26:44,279 --> 02:26:46,359 why are our numbers in 3240 02:26:46,359 --> 02:26:50,279 27 um basically we have them in 27 3241 02:26:50,279 --> 02:26:53,080 because on the schedule the do is doing 3242 02:26:53,080 --> 02:26:56,279 work on the interstate in 25 and 26 the 3243 02:26:56,279 --> 02:26:57,920 Hickman Road stuff which includes our 3244 02:26:57,920 --> 02:27:00,800 amenities happen in 27 we also currently 3245 02:27:00,800 --> 02:27:03,920 have an in 27 um there is maybe chance 3246 02:27:03,920 --> 02:27:05,920 to delay some payments with the dot but 3247 02:27:05,920 --> 02:27:08,560 again we just have to get to that point 3248 02:27:08,560 --> 02:27:11,200 first so what I've got here just want to 3249 02:27:11,200 --> 02:27:13,160 run through what is happening at the 3250 02:27:13,160 --> 02:27:15,720 interchange being that 3251 02:27:15,720 --> 02:27:18,120 uh this is probably the most exciting 3252 02:27:18,120 --> 02:27:21,920 project I guess we have in here the most 3253 02:27:21,920 --> 02:27:23,960 impactful your excitement level kind of 3254 02:27:23,960 --> 02:27:25,359 depends I guess on what what things you 3255 02:27:25,359 --> 02:27:28,960 like here but so just just looking at it 3256 02:27:28,960 --> 02:27:31,120 here so we've got the interstate running 3257 02:27:31,120 --> 02:27:34,000 north south here um so this is Hickman 3258 02:27:34,000 --> 02:27:35,359 Road and again we're looking to make it 3259 02:27:35,359 --> 02:27:37,080 a Divergent Diamond which will be 3260 02:27:37,080 --> 02:27:40,359 similar to there's one in W one in anony 3261 02:27:40,359 --> 02:27:41,720 what makes these these kind of 3262 02:27:41,720 --> 02:27:44,399 interchanges unique is normally if 3263 02:27:44,399 --> 02:27:46,160 you're going eastbound you'd continue 3264 02:27:46,160 --> 02:27:47,840 East and you'd have to turn in front of 3265 02:27:47,840 --> 02:27:50,880 traffic to go north but the Diamond 3266 02:27:50,880 --> 02:27:52,640 you'll be from the south side you'll 3267 02:27:52,640 --> 02:27:54,000 have a signalized intersection it'll 3268 02:27:54,000 --> 02:27:56,160 take you to the north side of the road 3269 02:27:56,160 --> 02:27:57,880 and then you can just take your left 3270 02:27:57,880 --> 02:28:00,040 here without having to cross traffic if 3271 02:28:00,040 --> 02:28:01,920 you're looking to continue East you'd 3272 02:28:01,920 --> 02:28:03,279 come back through a signalized 3273 02:28:03,279 --> 02:28:05,040 intersection and back on what you'd call 3274 02:28:05,040 --> 02:28:07,040 the standard size of the road so this 3275 02:28:07,040 --> 02:28:08,960 does improve safety greatly that you are 3276 02:28:08,960 --> 02:28:11,040 not Crossing and turning in front of 3277 02:28:11,040 --> 02:28:14,240 people you can also see that this this 3278 02:28:14,240 --> 02:28:15,880 was a big thing for us is to get the 3279 02:28:15,880 --> 02:28:19,000 trail system through the interchange um 3280 02:28:19,000 --> 02:28:21,240 that's something that and Urbandale went 3281 02:28:21,240 --> 02:28:24,399 together on was the trail the trail and 3282 02:28:24,399 --> 02:28:26,520 then the different enhancements in at 3283 02:28:26,520 --> 02:28:28,080 the interstate here so we're splitting 3284 02:28:28,080 --> 02:28:30,760 those cost 5050 minus the grants that 3285 02:28:30,760 --> 02:28:32,760 we've been able to obtain 3286 02:28:32,760 --> 02:28:36,760 together so we've got a bridge that this 3287 02:28:36,760 --> 02:28:38,800 is Lifetime Fitness up over here the 3288 02:28:38,800 --> 02:28:40,399 bridge that'll come up and over for the 3289 02:28:40,399 --> 02:28:42,479 Peds up and over the ramp you'll come 3290 02:28:42,479 --> 02:28:44,920 down go through a box cul under the 3291 02:28:44,920 --> 02:28:47,640 interstate come back around go up and 3292 02:28:47,640 --> 02:28:49,680 over these ramps and then come back down 3293 02:28:49,680 --> 02:28:51,600 in the TR Trail over towards the 3294 02:28:51,600 --> 02:28:54,479 entrance to um over to liveing history 3295 02:28:54,479 --> 02:28:56,520 farms um just kind of an overview too 3296 02:28:56,520 --> 02:28:57,920 you can see some different plantings 3297 02:28:57,920 --> 02:29:00,840 within within the medians so here's just 3298 02:29:00,840 --> 02:29:04,600 another view so again we kind of my 3299 02:29:04,600 --> 02:29:06,800 Lifetime Fitness looking out there's 3300 02:29:06,800 --> 02:29:09,080 also going to be a Culver under Hickman 3301 02:29:09,080 --> 02:29:11,240 Road so there'll be a connection that'll 3302 02:29:11,240 --> 02:29:13,880 come along the ramp and and the truck 3303 02:29:13,880 --> 02:29:15,399 stop that'll connect you down to the 3304 02:29:15,399 --> 02:29:17,720 Clive green belt so it'll tie these two 3305 02:29:17,720 --> 02:29:22,359 Trails together that way we'll have good connection here west of the 3306 02:29:22,359 --> 02:29:23,960 interstate and we have a good connection 3307 02:29:23,960 --> 02:29:26,960 on 100 Street is that trail falling into 3308 02:29:26,960 --> 02:29:30,080 Clive's budget then we agreed to split 3309 02:29:30,080 --> 02:29:32,359 everything because again otherwise they 3310 02:29:32,359 --> 02:29:33,920 could say well this other one's on the 3311 02:29:33,920 --> 02:29:35,279 north side of the interstate you pay for 3312 02:29:35,279 --> 02:29:37,560 it all including the 3313 02:29:37,560 --> 02:29:40,080 bridges I just didn't recall touching on 3314 02:29:40,080 --> 02:29:42,000 that one maybe that was back in the the 3315 02:29:42,000 --> 02:29:44,200 trail section be the link down to the 3316 02:29:44,200 --> 02:29:46,160 green belt Trail oh that's all in this 3317 02:29:46,160 --> 02:29:48,000 project okay it's all it's all being 3318 02:29:48,000 --> 02:29:50,800 built with the do project um you'll also 3319 02:29:50,800 --> 02:29:53,319 note so far you know we've gotten 2.5 3320 02:29:53,319 --> 02:29:56,439 million in the STP another 800,000 in 3321 02:29:56,439 --> 02:29:58,920 tap there's been some talk I think we'll 3322 02:29:58,920 --> 02:30:01,680 probably get another 1.1 million in IAP 3323 02:30:01,680 --> 02:30:03,359 and there's again some talk with could 3324 02:30:03,359 --> 02:30:06,520 at almost almost 500,000 and some other 3325 02:30:06,520 --> 02:30:08,640 dot funding so there's still some 3326 02:30:08,640 --> 02:30:11,840 funding we're working on but we're all this is included we're just 3327 02:30:11,840 --> 02:30:14,760 splitting everything 5050 on it so does 3328 02:30:14,760 --> 02:30:17,240 the additional funding then reduce the 3329 02:30:17,240 --> 02:30:19,080 reduce our the Clive and Urbandale 3330 02:30:19,080 --> 02:30:22,359 portions red the 4 million we just again 3331 02:30:22,359 --> 02:30:24,080 nothing's been officially awarded yet 3332 02:30:24,080 --> 02:30:26,240 but I think things are looking good for 3333 02:30:26,240 --> 02:30:28,479 us well this is exciting when is this 3334 02:30:28,479 --> 02:30:30,840 picture reality again uh this will be 3335 02:30:30,840 --> 02:30:32,200 occurrred in 3336 02:30:32,200 --> 02:30:35,760 2027 the Landscaping 28 29 it'll look 3337 02:30:35,760 --> 02:30:37,040 like this maybe 3338 02:30:37,040 --> 02:30:38,920 30 want to temper everybody's 3339 02:30:38,920 --> 02:30:40,359 expectations it takes a little time to 3340 02:30:40,359 --> 02:30:42,279 get all this stuff to grow and look like 3341 02:30:42,279 --> 02:30:44,240 the 3342 02:30:44,240 --> 02:30:46,840 renderings that's a big deal so here's 3343 02:30:46,840 --> 02:30:48,520 just another another look of you can 3344 02:30:48,520 --> 02:30:52,240 kind of see for the first time going underneath the bridge and our 3345 02:30:52,240 --> 02:30:53,960 plantings and here's kind of what it 3346 02:30:53,960 --> 02:30:55,640 looks like from the street the street 3347 02:30:55,640 --> 02:30:57,080 level so again we'll have some some 3348 02:30:57,080 --> 02:30:59,439 plantings out here um we're looking at 3349 02:30:59,439 --> 02:31:01,680 having some monuments in the 3350 02:31:01,680 --> 02:31:03,760 median and then we'll also have some 3351 02:31:03,760 --> 02:31:05,800 under the bridge that kind of serve two 3352 02:31:05,800 --> 02:31:07,520 purposes here you know they're 3353 02:31:07,520 --> 02:31:08,880 decorative and at the same time they 3354 02:31:08,880 --> 02:31:10,560 also help block the headlights between 3355 02:31:10,560 --> 02:31:12,960 the two different different sides of the 3356 02:31:12,960 --> 02:31:15,880 road it's a really great idea and then 3357 02:31:15,880 --> 02:31:18,120 here again just showing a little closeup 3358 02:31:18,120 --> 02:31:20,160 of the bridge that crosses from left on 3359 02:31:20,160 --> 02:31:22,200 Fitness heading heading over the the 3360 02:31:22,200 --> 02:31:23,279 exit 3361 02:31:23,279 --> 02:31:25,520 ramps and then just showing what it'll 3362 02:31:25,520 --> 02:31:28,479 look like as you go into the box culber 3363 02:31:28,479 --> 02:31:33,670 underneath the 3364 02:31:33,680 --> 02:31:35,880 interstate what I love is the way that's 3365 02:31:35,880 --> 02:31:38,000 going to connect eastern and western 3366 02:31:38,000 --> 02:31:41,720 Urban dale uh as well as with Clive yep 3367 02:31:41,720 --> 02:31:43,399 again it really does make some nice 3368 02:31:43,399 --> 02:31:50,950 connections 3369 02:31:50,960 --> 02:31:52,600 page 3370 02:31:52,600 --> 02:31:55,920 76 again is another maintenance project 3371 02:31:55,920 --> 02:31:59,399 on Justin drive so in 2025 we're looking 3372 02:31:59,399 --> 02:32:01,840 at a patch and overlay project on the 3373 02:32:01,840 --> 02:32:04,920 109th Justin over to 100 Street in this 3374 02:32:04,920 --> 02:32:06,960 little piece of Justin then coming back 3375 02:32:06,960 --> 02:32:09,080 the next year in 2026 and just do 3376 02:32:09,080 --> 02:32:11,560 patching on 100 Street Dennis and the 3377 02:32:11,560 --> 02:32:13,359 frontage road just reference again 3378 02:32:13,359 --> 02:32:14,720 here's where we talked about the 3379 02:32:14,720 --> 02:32:16,080 property we bought that could 3380 02:32:16,080 --> 02:32:17,840 potentially be the location for the 3381 02:32:17,840 --> 02:32:22,870 police station here 3382 02:32:22,880 --> 02:32:26,319 so page 77 is medians art and 3383 02:32:26,319 --> 02:32:29,279 Landscaping this prominantly the parks 3384 02:32:29,279 --> 02:32:31,640 department working on this I won't make 3385 02:32:31,640 --> 02:32:34,800 Jan come up here for it basically last 3386 02:32:34,800 --> 02:32:37,080 year we did plantings on merth Drive in 3387 02:32:37,080 --> 02:32:39,399 the medians between 86 Street out to 3388 02:32:39,399 --> 02:32:42,880 156th Street now in the in the 2025 3389 02:32:42,880 --> 02:32:45,240 we're planning on this stretch of 156 3390 02:32:45,240 --> 02:32:47,520 street from Douglas North up to 3391 02:32:47,520 --> 02:32:49,640 Waterford road so again planting some 3392 02:32:49,640 --> 02:32:52,640 more more trees trees in our wider 3393 02:32:52,640 --> 02:32:55,200 mediums so just curious why don't we bid 3394 02:32:55,200 --> 02:32:58,640 that out when we actually construct the the roadway in the 3395 02:32:58,640 --> 02:33:01,800 medians have that part of the project we 3396 02:33:01,800 --> 02:33:04,439 could just usually again we like to try 3397 02:33:04,439 --> 02:33:06,160 to get the grass to grow first and as I 3398 02:33:06,160 --> 02:33:07,760 said it usually takes a couple years 3399 02:33:07,760 --> 02:33:10,200 three years to get the grass growing and 3400 02:33:10,200 --> 02:33:13,080 then come back and try to plant in trees 3401 02:33:13,080 --> 02:33:14,319 feels like you could pretty cost 3402 02:33:14,319 --> 02:33:15,560 effective where the contractors a to 3403 02:33:15,560 --> 02:33:17,120 plant some trees rather they there I say 3404 02:33:17,120 --> 02:33:18,560 the other part is we weren't planting 3405 02:33:18,560 --> 02:33:21,240 trees in medians up last year no I I 3406 02:33:21,240 --> 02:33:23,359 love it too I I do I live out that way 3407 02:33:23,359 --> 02:33:24,960 and the more trees in the medians I love 3408 02:33:24,960 --> 02:33:27,840 it so it's uh this has been one of my uh 3409 02:33:27,840 --> 02:33:31,399 my projects great is to see we have 3410 02:33:31,399 --> 02:33:34,279 these incredibly wide uh 3411 02:33:34,279 --> 02:33:38,080 medians um especially out west and 3412 02:33:38,080 --> 02:33:40,479 there's nothing but grass in them and 3413 02:33:40,479 --> 02:33:43,439 it's there's not a clearer sign on 156th 3414 02:33:43,439 --> 02:33:45,439 Street from when you go from Urbandale 3415 02:33:45,439 --> 02:33:47,800 to Clive you know where that line is you 3416 02:33:47,800 --> 02:33:49,200 know where that line is without any 3417 02:33:49,200 --> 02:33:51,920 signs because they have stuff in the 3418 02:33:51,920 --> 02:33:54,080 medians and we don't it's good to see 3419 02:33:54,080 --> 02:33:55,680 this I think the other thing that it 3420 02:33:55,680 --> 02:33:58,200 helps us doing it after the fact is you 3421 02:33:58,200 --> 02:33:59,640 have a roadway guy as your prime 3422 02:33:59,640 --> 02:34:01,439 contractor he's just looking for any sub 3423 02:34:01,439 --> 02:34:03,520 that'll do trees really cheap versus 3424 02:34:03,520 --> 02:34:05,240 bidding them on their own then you're 3425 02:34:05,240 --> 02:34:07,000 just getting a tree guy that's his own 3426 02:34:07,000 --> 02:34:08,880 prime contractor dealing with it I think 3427 02:34:08,880 --> 02:34:10,479 we probably have a little better luck on 3428 02:34:10,479 --> 02:34:13,640 it that way yeah yeah I could argue both 3429 02:34:13,640 --> 02:34:20,710 ways but I understand 3430 02:34:20,720 --> 02:34:21,880 page 3431 02:34:21,880 --> 02:34:24,439 78 is our marath Drive preservation 3432 02:34:24,439 --> 02:34:26,840 project I had mentioned from 86 Street 3433 02:34:26,840 --> 02:34:29,520 out to 104 so this one will be a patch 3434 02:34:29,520 --> 02:34:32,240 and overlay project very similar to what 3435 02:34:32,240 --> 02:34:35,520 we did this year from 104th out to the 3436 02:34:35,520 --> 02:34:37,920 interstate um we're also including a 10- 3437 02:34:37,920 --> 02:34:40,560 foot Trail on the North side and this is 3438 02:34:40,560 --> 02:34:46,870 into the do for a January 3439 02:34:46,880 --> 02:34:49,279 leting and then here this one's similar 3440 02:34:49,279 --> 02:34:51,720 to to the Douglas railroad improvements 3441 02:34:51,720 --> 02:34:54,319 only on marath drive so what we did is 3442 02:34:54,319 --> 02:34:56,160 we did our patching and overlay to tie 3443 02:34:56,160 --> 02:34:58,279 in kind of smoothed it out somewhat it's 3444 02:34:58,279 --> 02:34:59,760 still a little rougher than we'd like so 3445 02:34:59,760 --> 02:35:01,000 we're going to actually replace the 3446 02:35:01,000 --> 02:35:03,240 crossing this will be done the same time 3447 02:35:03,240 --> 02:35:05,040 as the Douglas one so that makes it be 3448 02:35:05,040 --> 02:35:06,680 the spring of 3449 02:35:06,680 --> 02:35:09,960 2027 did the grant we got a grant for 3450 02:35:09,960 --> 02:35:12,120 this one as well yep yep and that's 3451 02:35:12,120 --> 02:35:13,680 where it's the most cost effective for 3452 02:35:13,680 --> 02:35:15,359 us is have the you pay for the railroad 3453 02:35:15,359 --> 02:35:17,760 to come in stay and all their time you 3454 02:35:17,760 --> 02:35:19,040 might as well have them do two at the 3455 02:35:19,040 --> 02:35:21,279 same time and save a little bit there 3456 02:35:21,279 --> 02:35:23,359 could you quickly educate us just on the 3457 02:35:23,359 --> 02:35:25,080 patch and overlay these These are big 3458 02:35:25,080 --> 02:35:27,279 dollars right for some of these projects 3459 02:35:27,279 --> 02:35:30,160 and um you know I drive some of these 3460 02:35:30,160 --> 02:35:31,760 streets every day and they don't seem 3461 02:35:31,760 --> 02:35:33,080 terrible to me but I'm sure there's a 3462 02:35:33,080 --> 02:35:35,439 lot that I don't understand about that 3463 02:35:35,439 --> 02:35:37,279 um could you kind of help us understand 3464 02:35:37,279 --> 02:35:38,760 kind of the what the patch and overlay 3465 02:35:38,760 --> 02:35:42,720 does sure so basically one we have areas 3466 02:35:42,720 --> 02:35:45,720 where panels are cracked up so again as 3467 02:35:45,720 --> 02:35:47,160 they when they crack up they start to 3468 02:35:47,160 --> 02:35:48,680 move so different times of the year 3469 02:35:48,680 --> 02:35:50,600 they're rougher than other times this 3470 02:35:50,600 --> 02:35:53,800 also causes the joints to fail um so 3471 02:35:53,800 --> 02:35:56,760 basically by doing the patching you you 3472 02:35:56,760 --> 02:35:58,720 kind of get the new concrete you overlay 3473 02:35:58,720 --> 02:36:00,680 it you seal everything up that also cuts 3474 02:36:00,680 --> 02:36:01,960 down on the amount of time like our 3475 02:36:01,960 --> 02:36:03,359 Public Works Crews have to be out there 3476 02:36:03,359 --> 02:36:05,279 filling potholes because again those 3477 02:36:05,279 --> 02:36:06,600 last for a little while and then they 3478 02:36:06,600 --> 02:36:08,000 come out and we're back filling the 3479 02:36:08,000 --> 02:36:11,080 potholes again so again 3480 02:36:11,080 --> 02:36:13,279 basically you get to a certain age of a 3481 02:36:13,279 --> 02:36:15,560 street where like on this project most 3482 02:36:15,560 --> 02:36:17,680 of our patching is on the inside 3483 02:36:17,680 --> 02:36:20,960 original Lanes it was 20 12 we did the 3484 02:36:20,960 --> 02:36:22,880 widening of the roadway so there's not a 3485 02:36:22,880 --> 02:36:24,520 lot of repairs that need there but the 3486 02:36:24,520 --> 02:36:26,960 other patches you know they've been been 3487 02:36:26,960 --> 02:36:28,040 there since you know the roadway has 3488 02:36:28,040 --> 02:36:29,880 been there since the 80s I believe on 3489 02:36:29,880 --> 02:36:32,560 this one so just over time you want to 3490 02:36:32,560 --> 02:36:34,560 do do the patching in your preventative 3491 02:36:34,560 --> 02:36:35,800 maintenance so you don't have to 3492 02:36:35,800 --> 02:36:37,640 reconstruct the entire road which we'll 3493 02:36:37,640 --> 02:36:39,600 talk about another road that's a total 3494 02:36:39,600 --> 02:36:42,240 reconstruct just because it's it's got 3495 02:36:42,240 --> 02:36:44,040 past the point of being able to do your 3496 02:36:44,040 --> 02:36:46,439 continuing maintenance so how long does 3497 02:36:46,439 --> 02:36:48,640 the patch and overlay kind of extend the 3498 02:36:48,640 --> 02:36:51,319 useful life most of what we've done we 3499 02:36:51,319 --> 02:36:53,880 can see you know 20 years out of our out 3500 02:36:53,880 --> 02:36:55,960 of our overlays and that could get to 3501 02:36:55,960 --> 02:36:58,040 the point you know you might have to do 3502 02:36:58,040 --> 02:36:59,920 some minor repair sometimes you'll get 3503 02:36:59,920 --> 02:37:01,640 some heave still underneath there that 3504 02:37:01,640 --> 02:37:03,640 we can fix up but again you don't have 3505 02:37:03,640 --> 02:37:06,279 to do do anything on the others for 3506 02:37:06,279 --> 02:37:08,040 instance rosand that we're getting ready 3507 02:37:08,040 --> 02:37:10,720 to reconstruct that overlay has been on 3508 02:37:10,720 --> 02:37:14,960 that road for about 20 years and they did did not do a ton of 3509 02:37:14,960 --> 02:37:16,840 extensive patching before that it's 3510 02:37:16,840 --> 02:37:18,520 still held 3511 02:37:18,520 --> 02:37:21,319 together so it's one of those again 3512 02:37:21,319 --> 02:37:23,640 we're just trying to stay ahead of 3513 02:37:23,640 --> 02:37:25,479 having to reconstruct and keep keep the 3514 02:37:25,479 --> 02:37:34,990 roads roads 3515 02:37:35,000 --> 02:37:38,800 passable 80 so um on page 80 this is a 3516 02:37:38,800 --> 02:37:41,040 reconstruction of marath Drive between 3517 02:37:41,040 --> 02:37:46,520 170th and and V Avenue or 184 Street 3518 02:37:46,520 --> 02:37:49,680 this one here was in 28 I've moved it to 3519 02:37:49,680 --> 02:37:53,040 30 the oute based on Clive's current 3520 02:37:53,040 --> 02:37:55,319 schedule they're working with Walky to 3521 02:37:55,319 --> 02:37:58,359 what they call Alice's Road our 170th to 3522 02:37:58,359 --> 02:38:00,399 do their reconstructions all the way up 3523 02:38:00,399 --> 02:38:01,840 to Meredith and they've got their 3524 02:38:01,840 --> 02:38:04,560 funding booked up to that point so it's 3525 02:38:04,560 --> 02:38:06,800 going to be difficult to have them 3526 02:38:06,800 --> 02:38:08,319 contribute because the South half of the 3527 02:38:08,319 --> 02:38:10,040 road they have half of the cost of the 3528 02:38:10,040 --> 02:38:12,479 road so I put it to where I hate to do 3529 02:38:12,479 --> 02:38:13,880 it but I put it where I think it's most 3530 02:38:13,880 --> 02:38:16,200 realistic if it got to be a point where 3531 02:38:16,200 --> 02:38:17,880 something had to be done sooner we'd 3532 02:38:17,880 --> 02:38:20,000 have to get in conversations with cl on 3533 02:38:20,000 --> 02:38:22,680 how how that would occur but again just 3534 02:38:22,680 --> 02:38:24,680 wanted to be able to free up money and 3535 02:38:24,680 --> 02:38:26,319 help things balance if I didn't think it 3536 02:38:26,319 --> 02:38:33,230 was going to happen in that in that 3537 02:38:33,240 --> 02:38:37,880 year page 81 is patching on North Park 3538 02:38:37,880 --> 02:38:41,399 Drive between 86 Street and 100 and also 3539 02:38:41,399 --> 02:38:43,720 patching on Plum Drive between 86 Street 3540 02:38:43,720 --> 02:38:48,429 around the curve to Northwest Urbandale 3541 02:38:48,439 --> 02:38:51,560 Drive how old is it Plum Drive see very 3542 02:38:51,560 --> 02:38:54,319 many years ago we put that in um we've 3543 02:38:54,319 --> 02:38:57,160 got the piece over here I think was 3544 02:38:57,160 --> 02:39:00,200 07 I remember right and I think I think 3545 02:39:00,200 --> 02:39:03,640 this piece was 12 and on these that's 3546 02:39:03,640 --> 02:39:05,680 why you can also see there's not it's a 3547 02:39:05,680 --> 02:39:07,840 little under 600,000 it's not a lot of 3548 02:39:07,840 --> 02:39:10,720 money in here part of that is also to 3549 02:39:10,720 --> 02:39:12,920 deal with the brick work that's out 3550 02:39:12,920 --> 02:39:14,640 there that's something that does take 3551 02:39:14,640 --> 02:39:16,680 more maintenance than your standard your 3552 02:39:16,680 --> 02:39:18,920 standard patches we have done some 3553 02:39:18,920 --> 02:39:21,279 previous brick work repairs as 3554 02:39:21,279 --> 02:39:23,680 well there's a lot of development that 3555 02:39:23,680 --> 02:39:25,600 could potentially happen on some of 3556 02:39:25,600 --> 02:39:27,359 these segments 3557 02:39:27,359 --> 02:39:30,279 um would there be a chance that the 3558 02:39:30,279 --> 02:39:32,920 construction could ruin any of this work 3559 02:39:32,920 --> 02:39:35,080 it it shouldn't these are materials that 3560 02:39:35,080 --> 02:39:37,279 we build we build to a higher standard 3561 02:39:37,279 --> 02:39:38,520 so these are the eight eight and a 3562 02:39:38,520 --> 02:39:40,399 quarter fully reinforced 3563 02:39:40,399 --> 02:39:43,479 Pavements so again we just over time you 3564 02:39:43,479 --> 02:39:45,240 do have some where again some panels 3565 02:39:45,240 --> 02:39:46,800 start to crack start having some issues 3566 02:39:46,800 --> 02:39:49,479 we just like stay on top of it fix them 3567 02:39:49,479 --> 02:39:51,760 and then again keep the road lasting 3568 02:39:51,760 --> 02:39:53,960 longer yeah I've seen the failed brick 3569 02:39:53,960 --> 02:39:55,640 work there on on Plum I just didn't know 3570 02:39:55,640 --> 02:39:56,880 with you know all the trucks and 3571 02:39:56,880 --> 02:39:58,240 Equipment they could be running in and 3572 02:39:58,240 --> 02:39:59,800 out of there if we did something I 3573 02:39:59,800 --> 02:40:01,640 wouldn't want to ruin it again right 3574 02:40:01,640 --> 02:40:04,399 away no no we have more of that issue 3575 02:40:04,399 --> 02:40:06,080 what we call our temporary roads out 3576 02:40:06,080 --> 02:40:08,640 west we might do the asphalt typically 3577 02:40:08,640 --> 02:40:09,960 you know they work great for the 3578 02:40:09,960 --> 02:40:11,680 passenger vehicles the subdivision 3579 02:40:11,680 --> 02:40:13,240 happens the concrete trucks start coming 3580 02:40:13,240 --> 02:40:15,479 in Daily then we start getting rotting 3581 02:40:15,479 --> 02:40:17,560 and issues but the pavement out here 3582 02:40:17,560 --> 02:40:26,190 it's intended for those heavier loads 3583 02:40:26,200 --> 02:40:28,200 and then on page 3584 02:40:28,200 --> 02:40:31,399 82 um this is a patch and overlay of 3585 02:40:31,399 --> 02:40:33,399 Northwest urbanville Drive between 3586 02:40:33,399 --> 02:40:36,240 Douglas and Meredith Drive this is kind 3587 02:40:36,240 --> 02:40:38,200 of our last section on this the 3588 02:40:38,200 --> 02:40:41,120 stretcher road we previously um did the 3589 02:40:41,120 --> 02:40:43,279 overlay on Northwest derill drive up to 3590 02:40:43,279 --> 02:40:45,960 the ramps then it becomes do from up to 3591 02:40:45,960 --> 02:40:48,120 there they've done their overlay we'll 3592 02:40:48,120 --> 02:40:49,920 catch this mile section 3593 02:40:49,920 --> 02:40:52,319 and previously we did a patch and 3594 02:40:52,319 --> 02:41:01,910 overlay I believe was back at 08 from Hickman Road up to Douglas 3595 02:41:01,920 --> 02:41:05,319 Avenue this one here on page 3596 02:41:05,319 --> 02:41:07,319 83 also has a little bit different 3597 02:41:07,319 --> 02:41:09,040 format because again Grimes will be the 3598 02:41:09,040 --> 02:41:11,720 lead on this project a little 3599 02:41:11,720 --> 02:41:14,319 background um Urban dale was the lead 3600 02:41:14,319 --> 02:41:17,080 when we constructed 100 Street and this 3601 02:41:17,080 --> 02:41:20,080 first first part of 54 Street so now 3602 02:41:20,080 --> 02:41:22,600 Grimes will be the lead we have roughly 3603 02:41:22,600 --> 02:41:25,000 a th000 feet left where they've got a 3604 02:41:25,000 --> 02:41:27,720 little bit longer distance over here so 3605 02:41:27,720 --> 02:41:29,439 we've got this project to kind of finish 3606 02:41:29,439 --> 02:41:32,279 up our part in Urbandale U we went 3607 02:41:32,279 --> 02:41:34,080 together on a joint application and 3608 02:41:34,080 --> 02:41:36,479 we're able to come up with 500,000 in in 3609 02:41:36,479 --> 02:41:38,399 federal funding to help with the project 3610 02:41:38,399 --> 02:41:41,240 as well so again we anticipate uh Grimes 3611 02:41:41,240 --> 02:41:43,560 will start start being the lead on this 3612 02:41:43,560 --> 02:41:47,750 next 3613 02:41:47,760 --> 02:41:51,040 year so here is is here is a reconstruct 3614 02:41:51,040 --> 02:41:54,920 on page 84 it's Park viw Drive 86 Street 3615 02:41:54,920 --> 02:41:56,200 to to 3616 02:41:56,200 --> 02:41:59,160 Alpine um this is one that's been 3617 02:41:59,160 --> 02:42:01,680 patched before a lot of my understanding 3618 02:42:01,680 --> 02:42:03,200 from past history is there's just a lot 3619 02:42:03,200 --> 02:42:05,200 of settlement at the different service 3620 02:42:05,200 --> 02:42:08,359 trenches along here um recently we did 3621 02:42:08,359 --> 02:42:09,920 patching in these neighborhoods to the 3622 02:42:09,920 --> 02:42:11,880 north and to the South we started 3623 02:42:11,880 --> 02:42:16,760 costing out what it was going to take to do the patches through here is more 3624 02:42:16,760 --> 02:42:19,439 economical to do a full reconstruction 3625 02:42:19,439 --> 02:42:22,120 so we left out the patches on Park View 3626 02:42:22,120 --> 02:42:24,240 so that we could add the CIP page and 3627 02:42:24,240 --> 02:42:27,910 make it a total 3628 02:42:27,920 --> 02:42:29,680 reconstruction see I want to make a 3629 02:42:29,680 --> 02:42:32,279 comment here on this I live in the 3630 02:42:32,279 --> 02:42:34,760 neighborhood there walk with streets and 3631 02:42:34,760 --> 02:42:36,520 sidewalks all the 3632 02:42:36,520 --> 02:42:40,080 time and I think maybe I'm going to 3633 02:42:40,080 --> 02:42:42,520 suggest we use little different 3634 02:42:42,520 --> 02:42:45,359 criteria for our repairs and we have in 3635 02:42:45,359 --> 02:42:47,720 the past at least appears to 3636 02:42:47,720 --> 02:42:50,920 be looks to me like we're when we do 3637 02:42:50,920 --> 02:42:52,840 these repairs like you said on the side 3638 02:42:52,840 --> 02:42:55,240 streets and one other 3639 02:42:55,240 --> 02:42:58,319 we we do it camera perfect it's like it 3640 02:42:58,319 --> 02:43:01,399 was new 3641 02:43:01,399 --> 02:43:04,080 well what trickly Galls me a little bit 3642 02:43:04,080 --> 02:43:08,120 is we even in the last year we you tore 3643 02:43:08,120 --> 02:43:11,160 up and repaved culde saacs all right my 3644 02:43:11,160 --> 02:43:13,680 point being that I think the criteria 3645 02:43:13,680 --> 02:43:14,680 ought to 3646 02:43:14,680 --> 02:43:17,760 be okay how much traffic do it 3647 02:43:17,760 --> 02:43:21,040 carry and how fast is it 3648 02:43:21,040 --> 02:43:24,200 going rather than just camera ready now 3649 02:43:24,200 --> 02:43:26,000 I know this stretch here we're talking 3650 02:43:26,000 --> 02:43:28,880 about here it's 3651 02:43:28,880 --> 02:43:31,800 lousy yeah probably should be replaced 3652 02:43:31,800 --> 02:43:34,319 but it seems to me went overboard in the 3653 02:43:34,319 --> 02:43:38,800 adjacent neighborhood last year I work 3654 02:43:38,800 --> 02:43:43,120 there I think probably not brought it to 3655 02:43:43,120 --> 02:43:45,920 quite a high state of Maintenance but I 3656 02:43:45,920 --> 02:43:48,439 guess again I'll leave that to the rest 3657 02:43:48,439 --> 02:43:50,200 of the 3658 02:43:50,200 --> 02:43:53,120 committee here how nice do they want it 3659 02:43:53,120 --> 02:43:55,600 I'll leave it that going tell you from 3660 02:43:55,600 --> 02:43:57,560 staff's point of view the way we look at 3661 02:43:57,560 --> 02:44:00,319 it is we try to come into a neighborhood 3662 02:44:00,319 --> 02:44:02,160 and fix everything up so that we're not 3663 02:44:02,160 --> 02:44:04,160 back for quite some time I don't 3664 02:44:04,160 --> 02:44:05,920 disagree there's less traffic on the 3665 02:44:05,920 --> 02:44:07,640 culde saxs but we look at if we're going 3666 02:44:07,640 --> 02:44:09,560 to be disrupt in the neighborhood we 3667 02:44:09,560 --> 02:44:11,680 like to hit an entire area at once and 3668 02:44:11,680 --> 02:44:14,439 then keep keep moving 3669 02:44:14,439 --> 02:44:18,760 along and this project is not going to come after anything happening 3670 02:44:18,760 --> 02:44:21,960 on Aurora right we're not hitting these 3671 02:44:21,960 --> 02:44:24,520 people at both sides at the same 3672 02:44:24,520 --> 02:44:27,520 time the the Aurora project will 3673 02:44:27,520 --> 02:44:31,279 probably only take a month maybe at the 3674 02:44:31,279 --> 02:44:33,479 most I don't even know it'll take quite 3675 02:44:33,479 --> 02:44:34,560 that long because the biggest thing is 3676 02:44:34,560 --> 02:44:36,920 we just have to fit it in likely after 3677 02:44:36,920 --> 02:44:38,439 Fourth of July activities and before 3678 02:44:38,439 --> 02:44:40,319 school 3679 02:44:40,319 --> 02:44:42,240 starts yeah I'm just thinking of people 3680 02:44:42,240 --> 02:44:44,479 like on 82 you know if we had something 3681 02:44:44,479 --> 02:44:46,120 on Aurora and something on parku at the 3682 02:44:46,120 --> 02:44:47,600 same time that'd be difficult for them 3683 02:44:47,600 --> 02:44:50,279 so right knowing though the the roadway 3684 02:44:50,279 --> 02:44:52,080 is still open they'll they'll Mill it 3685 02:44:52,080 --> 02:44:53,520 there'll be some impacts while they're 3686 02:44:53,520 --> 02:44:55,439 Milling but then it's open back up 3687 02:44:55,439 --> 02:45:02,590 traffic then they'll overlay 3688 02:45:02,600 --> 02:45:05,920 it and this is 20 this here is happening 3689 02:45:05,920 --> 02:45:08,960 in 2027 and the roro projects currently 3690 02:45:08,960 --> 02:45:14,269 programmed for 3691 02:45:14,279 --> 02:45:17,760 2025 our next one on page 85 is an oute 3692 02:45:17,760 --> 02:45:21,070 that' be the extension of 3693 02:45:21,080 --> 02:45:24,920 Road page 86 is the one we talked about 3694 02:45:24,920 --> 02:45:28,960 earlier is conver and 70th Street based 3695 02:45:28,960 --> 02:45:30,800 on the complete streets plan for 3696 02:45:30,800 --> 02:45:35,030 accommodating the 3697 02:45:35,040 --> 02:45:38,880 bicycles page 87 that was the first time 3698 02:45:38,880 --> 02:45:40,319 that's going to run all the way down to 3699 02:45:40,319 --> 02:45:43,040 Hickman correct is there anything it's 3700 02:45:43,040 --> 02:45:46,080 linking to on Hickman is there because I 3701 02:45:46,080 --> 02:45:47,359 know we're talking about doing the 3702 02:45:47,359 --> 02:45:49,640 trails on endale correct but we're 3703 02:45:49,640 --> 02:45:51,840 running this all the way down to Hickman 3704 02:45:51,840 --> 02:45:54,000 correct correct I don't think it has 3705 02:45:54,000 --> 02:45:55,760 anything it definitely connects to now 3706 02:45:55,760 --> 02:45:57,560 just like it does in that Meredith but 3707 02:45:57,560 --> 02:45:59,399 you have to start someplace on on 3708 02:45:59,399 --> 02:46:01,080 getting the projects and that that's 3709 02:46:01,080 --> 02:46:03,040 what was planned in the complete streets 3710 02:46:03,040 --> 02:46:05,439 program was you know to to have the 3711 02:46:05,439 --> 02:46:07,200 sherrow and get the connection down to 3712 02:46:07,200 --> 02:46:09,359 hman road which also gives you the 3713 02:46:09,359 --> 02:46:11,600 connection down to the Urbandale Avenue 3714 02:46:11,600 --> 02:46:20,349 as well 3715 02:46:20,359 --> 02:46:21,920 on page 3716 02:46:21,920 --> 02:46:25,479 87 is a a patching project on Prairie 3717 02:46:25,479 --> 02:46:27,920 Drive and 106 Street so just to the 3718 02:46:27,920 --> 02:46:35,510 northeast of 109th and Douglas 3719 02:46:35,520 --> 02:46:38,279 intersection page 3720 02:46:38,279 --> 02:46:42,640 88 is the Reconstruction of 109th 112th 3721 02:46:42,640 --> 02:46:46,150 which is there an 3722 02:46:46,160 --> 02:46:49,680 oute 11 Street Paving um south of 3723 02:46:49,680 --> 02:46:51,800 Douglas south of Justin is also in an 3724 02:46:51,800 --> 02:46:56,349 oute that'll be developer 3725 02:46:56,359 --> 02:47:01,240 driven page 90 is a new one in the CIP 3726 02:47:01,240 --> 02:47:03,240 this will be a maintenance project on 3727 02:47:03,240 --> 02:47:06,359 128 Street between Douglas down towards 3728 02:47:06,359 --> 02:47:08,800 Hickman um this one is scheduled for 3729 02:47:08,800 --> 02:47:12,439 2028 and we recently received a million 3730 02:47:12,439 --> 02:47:14,240 dollars in the surf service 3731 02:47:14,240 --> 02:47:22,469 Transportation block grant funding 3732 02:47:22,479 --> 02:47:26,750 page 91 is an 3733 02:47:26,760 --> 02:47:30,479 oute page 92 is the Reconstruction of 3734 02:47:30,479 --> 02:47:33,040 142nd Street from just north of Meredith 3735 02:47:33,040 --> 02:47:35,600 up to Waterford road we've got this 3736 02:47:35,600 --> 02:47:37,560 scheduled for next year but right now 3737 02:47:37,560 --> 02:47:38,960 we're still trying to work through some 3738 02:47:38,960 --> 02:47:41,160 RightWay issues we're having and and 3739 02:47:41,160 --> 02:47:43,520 working with the city of Grimes on their 3740 02:47:43,520 --> 02:47:46,880 portion which is in this area here this 3741 02:47:46,880 --> 02:47:48,840 down here is Urbandale and the west side 3742 02:47:48,840 --> 02:47:51,000 urale so get working currently working 3743 02:47:51,000 --> 02:47:54,469 on that project it's under 3744 02:47:54,479 --> 02:47:57,439 design and then included with that is an 3745 02:47:57,439 --> 02:48:00,279 overlay of the north half mile north of 3746 02:48:00,279 --> 02:48:02,760 Waterford on 142nd Street which is a 3747 02:48:02,760 --> 02:48:05,720 joint project with with Grimes do those 3748 02:48:05,720 --> 02:48:07,640 streets see a whole lot of traffic or is 3749 02:48:07,640 --> 02:48:10,160 this kind of be being done to Spur 3750 02:48:10,160 --> 02:48:12,240 development of what's what's left there 3751 02:48:12,240 --> 02:48:14,319 it's it's not really stir or trying to 3752 02:48:14,319 --> 02:48:16,439 get development as much as just as you 3753 02:48:16,439 --> 02:48:19,080 get more traffic it's easier to maintain 3754 02:48:19,080 --> 02:48:21,880 than the gravel roads right now neither 3755 02:48:21,880 --> 02:48:24,439 Grimes nor urale has that capability so 3756 02:48:24,439 --> 02:48:26,200 we would have to more or less hire 3757 02:48:26,200 --> 02:48:28,680 Dallas County to do that for 3758 02:48:28,680 --> 02:48:30,960 us similar 3759 02:48:30,960 --> 02:48:33,640 to you know trying to remember how long 3760 02:48:33,640 --> 02:48:36,240 AG go ago it was but we did the same 3761 02:48:36,240 --> 02:48:38,720 thing at an asphalt struction on 142nd 3762 02:48:38,720 --> 02:48:41,720 Street that buys you quite a bit of time 3763 02:48:41,720 --> 02:48:43,760 and then we also did that on on 3764 02:48:43,760 --> 02:48:47,080 Waterford before we paved it Waterford 3765 02:48:47,080 --> 02:48:48,279 kept getting delayed though and I think 3766 02:48:48,279 --> 02:48:49,680 we went a couple couple years past a 3767 02:48:49,680 --> 02:48:52,319 useful life of that overlay but a 3768 02:48:52,319 --> 02:48:58,070 littleit but we eventually got that 3769 02:48:58,080 --> 02:49:00,720 done um on page 3770 02:49:00,720 --> 02:49:04,520 94 um this is 156 Street Reconstruction 3771 02:49:04,520 --> 02:49:07,840 from Waterford Road up to Meadow Drive 3772 02:49:07,840 --> 02:49:11,000 this one's currently in 2028 in the CIP 3773 02:49:11,000 --> 02:49:12,160 this one's really going to be 3774 02:49:12,160 --> 02:49:14,600 development driven the reason for that 3775 02:49:14,600 --> 02:49:17,720 is right here I guess in the mid mile is 3776 02:49:17,720 --> 02:49:20,399 the break between thewa schools and the 3777 02:49:20,399 --> 02:49:22,760 Dallas Center Grim schools so nothing's 3778 02:49:22,760 --> 02:49:25,479 been proposed up here yet um there won't 3779 02:49:25,479 --> 02:49:27,600 be a lot of traffic in this this stretch 3780 02:49:27,600 --> 02:49:30,399 even with the school open and basically 3781 02:49:30,399 --> 02:49:32,800 we want to be able to know where where 3782 02:49:32,800 --> 02:49:34,399 our access points are going to be so you 3783 02:49:34,399 --> 02:49:35,840 kind of have to have some developments 3784 02:49:35,840 --> 02:49:37,359 you can lay out your intersections this 3785 02:49:37,359 --> 02:49:39,479 one we go every 600 feet but it's going 3786 02:49:39,479 --> 02:49:41,200 to be a little bit of a challenge just 3787 02:49:41,200 --> 02:49:42,680 based on the drainage that's coming 3788 02:49:42,680 --> 02:49:44,160 through here and figuring out once 3789 02:49:44,160 --> 02:49:45,720 somebody lays it out where they want 3790 02:49:45,720 --> 02:49:47,239 their streets and how it'll work for 3791 02:49:47,239 --> 02:49:53,070 their neighborhoods 3792 02:49:53,080 --> 02:49:55,800 page 95 isn't out 3793 02:49:55,800 --> 02:49:59,960 year page page 96 is also now here so 3794 02:49:59,960 --> 02:50:04,239 that is the end of streets um we are 3795 02:50:04,239 --> 02:50:07,160 approaching the threeh hour mark of our 3796 02:50:07,160 --> 02:50:09,319 meeting I'm not going to win any records 3797 02:50:09,319 --> 02:50:12,680 hopefully former council member o is not 3798 02:50:12,680 --> 02:50:17,720 watching um but uh I guess I want to ask 3799 02:50:17,720 --> 02:50:20,640 if people want to power through I don't 3800 02:50:20,640 --> 02:50:23,640 think you've got much time and I don't 3801 02:50:23,640 --> 02:50:25,520 know how much discussion you think that 3802 02:50:25,520 --> 02:50:28,399 we're going to need um I'm think we need 3803 02:50:28,399 --> 02:50:30,279 a five minute break oh I 3804 02:50:30,279 --> 02:50:33,319 could I would uh move that let's let's 3805 02:50:33,319 --> 02:50:36,800 have a little break right now 3806 02:50:36,800 --> 02:50:40,760 um yes uh come back in as soon as you 3807 02:50:40,760 --> 02:51:15,830 can I guess 3808 02:51:15,840 --> 02:51:17,520 streets the 3809 02:51:17,520 --> 02:51:56,590 most there's a lot going 3810 02:51:56,600 --> 02:52:02,510 able to make it I got stuck in my own 3811 02:52:02,520 --> 02:52:05,920 driveway thought had sufficient time of 3812 02:52:05,920 --> 02:52:08,920 this endless traffic both ways you know 3813 02:52:08,920 --> 02:52:11,600 oh where do you come out 86 ft just 3814 02:52:11,600 --> 02:52:15,910 north of glor D 3815 02:52:15,920 --> 02:52:19,520 Church a lot of traffic time 3816 02:52:19,520 --> 02:52:22,160 well I know that I thought i' 3817 02:52:22,160 --> 02:52:24,560 planned sufficient time but as it turned 3818 02:52:24,560 --> 02:52:26,720 out it 3819 02:52:26,720 --> 02:52:29,319 didn't I'm always amazed 3820 02:52:29,319 --> 02:52:32,840 sometimes I work in John 3821 02:52:32,840 --> 02:52:36,630 and how are 3822 02:52:36,640 --> 02:52:39,239 you thinking about my students that I'm 3823 02:52:39,239 --> 02:52:41,520 G to meet with tomorrow 3824 02:52:41,520 --> 02:52:45,439 and the what I got to you know by the 3825 02:52:45,439 --> 02:52:48,840 school it's just a lot less stress take 3826 02:52:48,840 --> 02:52:51,120 me a few minutes longer but man it's a 3827 02:52:51,120 --> 02:52:54,239 lot an easier 3828 02:52:54,239 --> 02:52:59,200 Drive never sit this ever 3829 02:52:59,200 --> 02:53:11,150 right 3830 02:53:11,160 --> 02:53:14,600 watchs well next meeting I'll allow more 3831 02:53:14,600 --> 02:53:21,630 time I thought i' right 3832 02:53:21,640 --> 02:53:23,600 I was here early because I thought I had 3833 02:53:23,600 --> 02:53:27,479 a Mee library for this 3834 02:53:27,479 --> 02:53:31,680 one not for two more weeks yeah so I was 3835 02:53:31,680 --> 02:53:35,870 plenty early two too many 3836 02:53:35,880 --> 02:53:38,399 meetings I enjoyed my 3837 02:53:38,399 --> 02:53:46,990 car so in familiar territory 3838 02:53:47,000 --> 02:53:55,389 know is 3839 02:53:55,399 --> 02:53:57,319 too a 3840 02:53:57,319 --> 02:54:00,520 chance my calendar was it said 5:30 I 3841 02:54:00,520 --> 02:54:02,359 thought it was 5:45 but it said it was 3842 02:54:02,359 --> 02:54:05,800 5:30 so I rushed out the 3843 02:54:05,800 --> 02:54:17,309 door the have you done it 3844 02:54:17,319 --> 02:54:32,910 no so he's not back 3845 02:54:32,920 --> 02:54:38,080 yet know I was out there and it was not 3846 02:54:38,080 --> 02:54:40,840 so not so comfortable this morning with 3847 02:54:40,840 --> 02:54:44,030 the 3848 02:54:44,040 --> 02:54:57,070 beautiful wish I would have known before 3849 02:54:57,080 --> 02:54:59,399 they were glad it was early verus like 3850 02:54:59,399 --> 02:55:02,560 seven because it probably would scary 3851 02:55:02,560 --> 02:55:06,630 but that's the same my 3852 02:55:06,640 --> 02:55:09,920 hus car before we get out the driveway 3853 02:55:09,920 --> 02:55:12,080 we' watch the weather at like midnight 3854 02:55:12,080 --> 02:55:15,439 after 11 after the football 3855 02:55:15,439 --> 02:55:19,479 game and they were like dusting yeah 3856 02:55:19,479 --> 02:55:22,200 much more than that I was thinking like 3857 02:55:22,200 --> 02:55:25,160 you might see it in the grass 3858 02:55:25,160 --> 02:56:01,510 I off 3859 02:56:01,520 --> 02:56:05,710 S I think 3860 02:56:05,720 --> 02:56:10,720 uh ready to go wait yeah here's an easy 3861 02:56:10,720 --> 02:56:12,920 page it's the street lights basically 3862 02:56:12,920 --> 02:56:14,680 this just lists out street lights that 3863 02:56:14,680 --> 02:56:17,120 get constructed with our with our main 3864 02:56:17,120 --> 02:56:19,040 roadway projects 3865 02:56:19,040 --> 02:56:20,680 no dollar amounts those dollar amounts 3866 02:56:20,680 --> 02:56:24,750 are all all included with the roadway 3867 02:56:24,760 --> 02:56:32,830 projects our last section is the traffic 3868 02:56:32,840 --> 02:56:35,640 signals the first one is page 3869 02:56:35,640 --> 02:56:38,479 99 and what this is is an Adaptive 3870 02:56:38,479 --> 02:56:41,359 traffic signal system on Douglas Avenue 3871 02:56:41,359 --> 02:56:44,840 basically from 100th Street out to 121st 3872 02:56:44,840 --> 02:56:47,040 Street and what adaptive we refer to 3873 02:56:47,040 --> 02:56:49,000 that is um it's a little different than 3874 02:56:49,000 --> 02:56:52,080 how our signals are time today basically 3875 02:56:52,080 --> 02:56:53,920 you have a lot more detection and you 3876 02:56:53,920 --> 02:56:58,000 have more less a computer looking at it sees how the traffic's flowing in 3877 02:56:58,000 --> 02:56:59,680 each location and it can make slight 3878 02:56:59,680 --> 02:57:03,000 adjustments as the traffic is Flowing um 3879 02:57:03,000 --> 02:57:05,680 we are doing our very first project with 3880 02:57:05,680 --> 02:57:08,359 that that's that's Standalone Urbandale 3881 02:57:08,359 --> 02:57:11,120 on 100 Street up by the interstate so 3882 02:57:11,120 --> 02:57:13,960 from Plum Drive up to 54th want to get 3883 02:57:13,960 --> 02:57:15,960 that project completed we've kind of 3884 02:57:15,960 --> 02:57:17,120 gone through some different hurdles with 3885 02:57:17,120 --> 02:57:20,000 the do on funding and everything that 3886 02:57:20,000 --> 02:57:21,120 we're getting to the point here 3887 02:57:21,120 --> 02:57:22,600 hopefully in the next few months we can 3888 02:57:22,600 --> 02:57:25,560 get things up up and running so but this 3889 02:57:25,560 --> 02:57:27,439 will be a future project if that all 3890 02:57:27,439 --> 02:57:29,680 goes well that we'd look at adaptive um 3891 02:57:29,680 --> 02:57:32,160 signal signal timings through 3892 02:57:32,160 --> 02:57:34,880 here is there a reason you you selected 3893 02:57:34,880 --> 02:57:37,760 this um section of road for 3894 02:57:37,760 --> 02:57:41,239 that uh we picked three four sections 3895 02:57:41,239 --> 02:57:42,760 and I guess this is just the one we put 3896 02:57:42,760 --> 02:57:46,120 in 28 is is is it's a tra it's the 3897 02:57:46,120 --> 02:57:48,800 amount of traffic we have as as and the 3898 02:57:48,800 --> 02:57:51,160 proximity of the traffic signal so 3899 02:57:51,160 --> 02:57:53,279 really want want to see if we can't get 3900 02:57:53,279 --> 02:57:55,840 traffic flowing better from 100th all 3901 02:57:55,840 --> 02:57:58,239 the way through 121st the other thing 3902 02:57:58,239 --> 02:58:00,520 that hopefully can make things a little 3903 02:58:00,520 --> 02:58:02,560 better um things are different now that 3904 02:58:02,560 --> 02:58:04,399 the Merit of The Interchange opened up 3905 02:58:04,399 --> 02:58:06,120 and how things we have quite as much 3906 02:58:06,120 --> 02:58:10,040 traffic coming out at 114th as well so 3907 02:58:10,040 --> 02:58:11,479 are are you hoping to like pilot this 3908 02:58:11,479 --> 02:58:15,279 technology for this section of Road and 3909 02:58:15,279 --> 02:58:17,080 just kind of see how it goes and then no 3910 02:58:17,080 --> 02:58:18,760 that's what we want to see up on 100 3911 02:58:18,760 --> 02:58:20,840 uh I mean this is used different systems 3912 02:58:20,840 --> 02:58:22,439 are used throughout the Metro it's on 3913 02:58:22,439 --> 02:58:28,080 Hickman Road it's on University it's all throughout West de Mo it's just 3914 02:58:28,080 --> 02:58:30,040 again we haven't had a lot of 3915 02:58:30,040 --> 02:58:35,080 opportunity to use it ourselves and see how we how we like it so again we 3916 02:58:35,080 --> 02:58:36,640 want to make sure we like the system 3917 02:58:36,640 --> 02:58:38,520 before we would go to this next step 3918 02:58:38,520 --> 02:58:43,469 here 3919 02:58:43,479 --> 02:58:48,880 gotcha um so page 100 is an oute 3920 02:58:48,880 --> 02:58:53,120 page 101 is an out year um so page 102 3921 02:58:53,120 --> 02:58:55,880 is similar with the Adaptive system that 3922 02:58:55,880 --> 02:58:58,399 we've got in 26 and this would be 3923 02:58:58,399 --> 02:59:00,439 linking the signals together on 3924 02:59:00,439 --> 02:59:01,960 Northwest urbanville drive from the 3925 02:59:01,960 --> 02:59:04,080 interstate down to Meredith then on 3926 02:59:04,080 --> 02:59:06,439 Meredith from Northwest urb Hill drive 3927 02:59:06,439 --> 02:59:12,030 out to 128th 3928 02:59:12,040 --> 02:59:15,800 Street on page 103 um we have traffic 3929 02:59:15,800 --> 02:59:20,399 signals at 70th and and 72nd in Meredith 3930 02:59:20,399 --> 02:59:22,319 um there are only two that we have now 3931 02:59:22,319 --> 02:59:24,319 that are not tied into our system that 3932 02:59:24,319 --> 02:59:26,479 we can control from the office um you 3933 02:59:26,479 --> 02:59:28,680 have to actually go out to the cabinets 3934 02:59:28,680 --> 02:59:30,720 so we have fiber that ends in front of 3935 02:59:30,720 --> 02:59:32,319 the high school we're looking to extend 3936 02:59:32,319 --> 02:59:36,960 it on a row to 70th come up to um 70th 3937 02:59:36,960 --> 02:59:39,279 and Meredith and tie into the fiber that 3938 02:59:39,279 --> 02:59:40,880 we have Link in those two traffic 3939 02:59:40,880 --> 02:59:42,800 signals together that we're looking at 3940 02:59:42,800 --> 02:59:44,720 we're currently designing that inhouse 3941 02:59:44,720 --> 02:59:50,469 and we'll construct that next year 3942 02:59:50,479 --> 02:59:55,120 on page 104 is a traffic signal at 128 3943 02:59:55,120 --> 02:59:57,640 in Plum this is out by where the new 3944 02:59:57,640 --> 03:00:00,720 warehouses are are being built these are 3945 03:00:00,720 --> 03:00:03,200 100% privately funded and will be be 3946 03:00:03,200 --> 03:00:05,319 constructed when when it meets warrants 3947 03:00:05,319 --> 03:00:07,520 out here um with with everything just 3948 03:00:07,520 --> 03:00:12,630 opening the traffic is not there 3949 03:00:12,640 --> 03:00:16,960 yet and then 105 is a signal in andout 3950 03:00:16,960 --> 03:00:18,840 year and 3951 03:00:18,840 --> 03:00:21,080 106 is now here so I don't even know if 3952 03:00:21,080 --> 03:00:23,600 I even needed five minutes to wrap it up 3953 03:00:23,600 --> 03:00:26,560 uh quick question on the signal at 170th 3954 03:00:26,560 --> 03:00:29,880 and Plum the private uh fun would that 3955 03:00:29,880 --> 03:00:33,160 be the school district or okay yep yep 3956 03:00:33,160 --> 03:00:35,239 we have an an agreement with them 3957 03:00:35,239 --> 03:00:41,590 already 3958 03:00:41,600 --> 03:00:44,160 okay so that is the traffic signal 3959 03:00:44,160 --> 03:00:48,469 section 3960 03:00:48,479 --> 03:00:51,439 and we don't do the water section it's 3961 03:00:51,439 --> 03:00:54,040 just information for you to look at if 3962 03:00:54,040 --> 03:00:55,279 you 3963 03:00:55,279 --> 03:00:58,720 want okay so we've gotten through all of 3964 03:00:58,720 --> 03:00:59,720 the 3965 03:00:59,720 --> 03:01:01,720 presentations in three 3966 03:01:01,720 --> 03:01:03,800 hours but I think we had some excellent 3967 03:01:03,800 --> 03:01:07,479 discussion so 3968 03:01:07,479 --> 03:01:10,640 um I 3969 03:01:10,640 --> 03:01:14,920 guess we can do this um go back I'll go 3970 03:01:14,920 --> 03:01:17,160 back through each section and if anybody 3971 03:01:17,160 --> 03:01:23,720 has any uh things they want to amend um 3972 03:01:23,720 --> 03:01:26,920 we can discuss it uh in that section so 3973 03:01:26,920 --> 03:01:31,080 I'm sure there's lots of art um issues 3974 03:01:31,080 --> 03:01:34,319 okay I would like $4 million 3975 03:01:34,319 --> 03:01:36,960 exactly I'll take it thank you to every 3976 03:01:36,960 --> 03:01:39,120 sorry Nikki thank you to everyone for 3977 03:01:39,120 --> 03:01:41,120 that by the 3978 03:01:41,120 --> 03:01:49,110 way buildings 3979 03:01:49,120 --> 03:01:57,590 okay hearing nothing uh major 3980 03:01:57,600 --> 03:02:00,560 equipment okay hearing nothing 3981 03:02:00,560 --> 03:02:02,880 technology 3982 03:02:02,880 --> 03:02:09,710 nothing 3983 03:02:09,720 --> 03:02:14,670 Parks lots of stuff here 3984 03:02:14,680 --> 03:02:20,510 anything okay uh moving on to 3985 03:02:20,520 --> 03:02:30,150 Bridges okay 3986 03:02:30,160 --> 03:02:34,600 sidewalks okay storm 3987 03:02:34,600 --> 03:02:37,880 water anyone have any 3988 03:02:37,880 --> 03:02:40,600 specific 3989 03:02:40,600 --> 03:02:47,200 um well or might okay and uh the minutes 3990 03:02:47,200 --> 03:02:49,479 will reflect like 3991 03:02:49,479 --> 03:02:51,319 that 3992 03:02:51,319 --> 03:02:54,720 okay uh streets I think Pat had 3993 03:02:54,720 --> 03:02:57,760 something she wanted to propose well 3994 03:02:57,760 --> 03:03:00,920 I I think on these pieces that are uh 3995 03:03:00,920 --> 03:03:03,399 part of the complete streets plan 3996 03:03:03,399 --> 03:03:06,239 perhaps the title should be uh complete 3997 03:03:06,239 --> 03:03:08,520 streets I don't want to hide the bike 3998 03:03:08,520 --> 03:03:10,800 Lanes though I don't think that would be 3999 03:03:10,800 --> 03:03:13,960 perceived as uh genuine from us so 4000 03:03:13,960 --> 03:03:16,960 perhaps this one could be for example um 4001 03:03:16,960 --> 03:03:19,080 complete Street road diet with bike 4002 03:03:19,080 --> 03:03:22,680 lanes and then uh something similar on 4003 03:03:22,680 --> 03:03:26,279 70th a similar title but I also think 4004 03:03:26,279 --> 03:03:29,080 that the write up uh needs to reflect 4005 03:03:29,080 --> 03:03:31,880 that the real goals here for most of 4006 03:03:31,880 --> 03:03:34,040 these projects in some places it perhaps 4007 03:03:34,040 --> 03:03:36,720 it is about the bike access but these 4008 03:03:36,720 --> 03:03:38,680 projects in particular especially this 4009 03:03:38,680 --> 03:03:41,880 one was really designed to improve 4010 03:03:41,880 --> 03:03:44,120 overall safety to take these four lanes 4011 03:03:44,120 --> 03:03:46,640 where people go too fast and bring them 4012 03:03:46,640 --> 03:03:49,120 down to three lanes and really do that 4013 03:03:49,120 --> 03:03:51,479 kind of work that these Road diets can 4014 03:03:51,479 --> 03:03:55,479 provide so whatever material we might be 4015 03:03:55,479 --> 03:03:57,359 developing information we might be 4016 03:03:57,359 --> 03:03:59,840 developing for the public perhaps in 4017 03:03:59,840 --> 03:04:01,640 addition to perhaps a handout for those 4018 03:04:01,640 --> 03:04:04,560 who show up um that could be 4019 03:04:04,560 --> 03:04:08,000 incorporated in this write up and so I 4020 03:04:08,000 --> 03:04:11,120 don't know how to move that uh except to 4021 03:04:11,120 --> 03:04:12,760 say I would like to move that we 4022 03:04:12,760 --> 03:04:14,880 recommend a title change and a more 4023 03:04:14,880 --> 03:04:16,800 detailed description for our complete 4024 03:04:16,800 --> 03:04:18,960 streets projects in this 4025 03:04:18,960 --> 03:04:21,800 document uh I'll ask for a second and 4026 03:04:21,800 --> 03:04:23,399 then we can have discussion is there a 4027 03:04:23,399 --> 03:04:26,040 second I'll second then okay I'm going 4028 03:04:26,040 --> 03:04:29,239 to look at you two guys right now um is 4029 03:04:29,239 --> 03:04:32,439 this something that can be done be 4030 03:04:32,439 --> 03:04:36,479 before we send it to the council okay or 4031 03:04:36,479 --> 03:04:38,359 would we get replacement Pages before 4032 03:04:38,359 --> 03:04:41,399 the public hearing okay that would be 4033 03:04:41,399 --> 03:04:47,439 fantastic yeah so uh probably for the 4034 03:04:47,439 --> 03:04:50,279 this one on page 66 and then the 4035 03:04:50,279 --> 03:04:55,040 70th uh okay fantastic and anything else 4036 03:04:55,040 --> 03:04:57,439 in here that I not remembering whether 4037 03:04:57,439 --> 03:04:59,120 it would be called the complete Street 4038 03:04:59,120 --> 03:05:01,239 or not I don't think we have another one 4039 03:05:01,239 --> 03:05:03,000 that's part of the complete streets plan 4040 03:05:03,000 --> 03:05:06,080 per se but we kind of did yeah maybe 4041 03:05:06,080 --> 03:05:11,630 something along Meredith 4042 03:05:11,640 --> 03:05:13,960 or well there should be some level of 4043 03:05:13,960 --> 03:05:15,560 indication of that maybe though that 4044 03:05:15,560 --> 03:05:16,960 could be at the beginning of the whole 4045 03:05:16,960 --> 03:05:19,200 section as a post to Page by 4046 03:05:19,200 --> 03:05:23,080 Page yeah yeah okay that's good that's 4047 03:05:23,080 --> 03:05:24,880 yeah that's right that's good enough so 4048 03:05:24,880 --> 03:05:28,359 I guess to specifically those two pages 4049 03:05:28,359 --> 03:05:31,640 have change changed those two pages and 4050 03:05:31,640 --> 03:05:35,640 get those um emailed out to us for the 4051 03:05:35,640 --> 03:05:38,880 public hearing so any other discussion 4052 03:05:38,880 --> 03:05:42,000 on I I just have one quick comment on it 4053 03:05:42,000 --> 03:05:44,040 in that I think we just have to be 4054 03:05:44,040 --> 03:05:48,439 really careful with how we reate all of 4055 03:05:48,439 --> 03:05:51,800 this in that we don't want it to appear 4056 03:05:51,800 --> 03:05:54,840 to be like we're retrofitting this to 4057 03:05:54,840 --> 03:05:57,600 make it fit our narrative and not yours 4058 03:05:57,600 --> 03:06:00,160 so I think if complete streets was done 4059 03:06:00,160 --> 03:06:02,160 five years ago eight years ago whenever 4060 03:06:02,160 --> 03:06:04,120 that was done that you know credit is 4061 03:06:04,120 --> 03:06:07,120 given to that study so that when it's 4062 03:06:07,120 --> 03:06:09,439 pointed out the the main point of this 4063 03:06:09,439 --> 03:06:12,640 was in fact safety and not bike lanes 4064 03:06:12,640 --> 03:06:15,040 that and that they were a nice maybe 4065 03:06:15,040 --> 03:06:17,160 excuse me add-on to some folks um 4066 03:06:17,160 --> 03:06:18,520 whatever that might be I think it's just 4067 03:06:18,520 --> 03:06:19,720 really important that we're very 4068 03:06:19,720 --> 03:06:21,920 transparent on you know this is what it 4069 03:06:21,920 --> 03:06:24,880 was it probably got as we as has already 4070 03:06:24,880 --> 03:06:26,840 been stated I don't need to go down that 4071 03:06:26,840 --> 03:06:28,920 road but I would just really attribute 4072 03:06:28,920 --> 03:06:31,880 maybe some of that back to that study if 4073 03:06:31,880 --> 03:06:33,800 that's really the leg that there is to 4074 03:06:33,800 --> 03:06:36,479 stand on no I think that's a really good 4075 03:06:36,479 --> 03:06:39,399 point John I guess if you guys want to 4076 03:06:39,399 --> 03:06:42,560 maybe have Pat and I look at it before 4077 03:06:42,560 --> 03:06:45,359 and then if we have Pro we can when we 4078 03:06:45,359 --> 03:06:47,880 vote on the whole document at the public 4079 03:06:47,880 --> 03:06:49,960 hearing to refer it to the council we 4080 03:06:49,960 --> 03:06:52,520 can make any specific changes to those 4081 03:06:52,520 --> 03:06:55,560 pages at that time at the public Hearing 4082 03:06:55,560 --> 03:07:00,040 in a couple of weeks so uh we'll take a 4083 03:07:00,040 --> 03:07:04,359 vote I had a did you did you have a any 4084 03:07:04,359 --> 03:07:07,200 questions related to Pat's or comment 4085 03:07:07,200 --> 03:07:12,710 okay so should we take a vote on Pat's 4086 03:07:12,720 --> 03:07:15,560 Amendment uh motion by bod second by 4087 03:07:15,560 --> 03:07:21,160 Hilbert all in favor say I any who 4088 03:07:21,160 --> 03:07:22,720 oppose 4089 03:07:22,720 --> 03:07:26,279 fantastic you had another had one 4090 03:07:26,279 --> 03:07:27,720 question for you real quick and then 4091 03:07:27,720 --> 03:07:30,279 yeah I had a couple of comments we keep 4092 03:07:30,279 --> 03:07:31,920 referring back to the complete streets 4093 03:07:31,920 --> 03:07:34,319 which was done fairly recently 2019 but 4094 03:07:34,319 --> 03:07:37,479 as cities continually evolve how long 4095 03:07:37,479 --> 03:07:39,080 are we kind of going to reference 4096 03:07:39,080 --> 03:07:40,920 complete streets without looking at that 4097 03:07:40,920 --> 03:07:50,269 again 4098 03:07:50,279 --> 03:07:52,040 I guess we could always relook at it I'm 4099 03:07:52,040 --> 03:07:54,200 just not sure things have changed enough 4100 03:07:54,200 --> 03:07:56,640 we're still trying to implement um the 4101 03:07:56,640 --> 03:07:58,120 things that are in there because it was 4102 03:07:58,120 --> 03:08:01,080 set up as short medium and long-term 4103 03:08:01,080 --> 03:08:03,640 priorities so we're still work working 4104 03:08:03,640 --> 03:08:06,560 through those there's also I would say 4105 03:08:06,560 --> 03:08:08,520 probably a quarter of the document is 4106 03:08:08,520 --> 03:08:11,000 areas like uh one we showed on Hickman 4107 03:08:11,000 --> 03:08:12,359 Road that would be really nice if we 4108 03:08:12,359 --> 03:08:13,840 could get a trail through there so 4109 03:08:13,840 --> 03:08:18,960 there's a lot that are Developer dependent or they're alongside 4110 03:08:18,960 --> 03:08:20,239 an arterial that hasn't been 4111 03:08:20,239 --> 03:08:21,600 reconstructed yet there's you know 4112 03:08:21,600 --> 03:08:24,680 several we cannot do do yet but again I 4113 03:08:24,680 --> 03:08:26,359 think it's still a good document that 4114 03:08:26,359 --> 03:08:28,040 we're still trying to work our way 4115 03:08:28,040 --> 03:08:30,439 through because we knew knew going into 4116 03:08:30,439 --> 03:08:32,239 it that you know we' work on the short 4117 03:08:32,239 --> 03:08:33,800 ones and those mediums would take a 4118 03:08:33,800 --> 03:08:34,720 while and of course there's just 4119 03:08:34,720 --> 03:08:37,680 longterm ones that still take a while 4120 03:08:37,680 --> 03:08:40,520 and I think as a staff every opportunity 4121 03:08:40,520 --> 03:08:43,160 we get to work one into a project we 4122 03:08:43,160 --> 03:08:49,150 look at it evaluate and try to do that 4123 03:08:49,160 --> 03:08:51,200 yeah thank you for that answer um and 4124 03:08:51,200 --> 03:08:52,279 then getting 4125 03:08:52,279 --> 03:08:54,760 to I don't want to change anything for 4126 03:08:54,760 --> 03:08:59,040 this year okay I I would like to have 4127 03:08:59,040 --> 03:09:01,319 explored um two of the the comments i' 4128 03:09:01,319 --> 03:09:03,720 mentioned and I don't know when it comes 4129 03:09:03,720 --> 03:09:05,319 to the trails or the sidewalks what 4130 03:09:05,319 --> 03:09:06,640 section these fall in because they they 4131 03:09:06,640 --> 03:09:09,160 get it's a little gray there but the uh 4132 03:09:09,160 --> 03:09:13,080 the 200 foot section that we are talking 4133 03:09:13,080 --> 03:09:16,000 about not doing on Meredith it seems 4134 03:09:16,000 --> 03:09:18,800 silly but there is that gas meter 4135 03:09:18,800 --> 03:09:21,640 station so I would like to have explored 4136 03:09:21,640 --> 03:09:23,840 just what that cost might be you know 4137 03:09:23,840 --> 03:09:25,920 being a realist it comes back a million 4138 03:09:25,920 --> 03:09:28,080 dollars doesn't make sense right but I 4139 03:09:28,080 --> 03:09:29,840 don't know that we've kind of assigned a 4140 03:09:29,840 --> 03:09:32,359 price or explored it at all but it does 4141 03:09:32,359 --> 03:09:34,560 seem silly to not do a 200 foot section 4142 03:09:34,560 --> 03:09:36,239 when the restom mar is 4143 03:09:36,239 --> 03:09:39,600 done um and then the other one would be 4144 03:09:39,600 --> 03:09:42,479 is there any potential to get that trail 4145 03:09:42,479 --> 03:09:45,279 under Plum Drive as it is on every other 4146 03:09:45,279 --> 03:09:47,960 major arterial Crossing for that trail 4147 03:09:47,960 --> 03:09:50,520 Network and in here we had talked about 4148 03:09:50,520 --> 03:09:54,560 in the 27 doing that overlay on Plum 4149 03:09:54,560 --> 03:09:57,479 could be a potential just a patch yeah 4150 03:09:57,479 --> 03:09:59,479 but it could be a time where we could 4151 03:09:59,479 --> 03:10:01,720 look at something like that if it's even 4152 03:10:01,720 --> 03:10:04,800 possible again you know being realist 4153 03:10:04,800 --> 03:10:06,359 dollars might not make sense there but 4154 03:10:06,359 --> 03:10:11,710 just looking at those two for future 4155 03:10:11,720 --> 03:10:18,239 CIP thank you are there any other uh 4156 03:10:18,239 --> 03:10:21,439 amendments proposals uh related to the 4157 03:10:21,439 --> 03:10:24,309 street 4158 03:10:24,319 --> 03:10:26,520 section 4159 03:10:26,520 --> 03:10:28,960 okay well that was most of 4160 03:10:28,960 --> 03:10:33,279 it Street lighting uh hearing none 4161 03:10:33,279 --> 03:10:36,269 traffic 4162 03:10:36,279 --> 03:10:38,000 signals 4163 03:10:38,000 --> 03:10:43,640 okay so good work everyone um I think 4164 03:10:43,640 --> 03:10:47,760 Nikki will and Addison and um 4165 03:10:47,760 --> 03:10:50,520 vivana will be get doing a little bit of 4166 03:10:50,520 --> 03:10:53,520 work um to get us ready for the public 4167 03:10:53,520 --> 03:11:00,319 Hearing in two two weeks the 16th um so 4168 03:11:00,319 --> 03:11:05,120 uh look for uh some new pages related to 4169 03:11:05,120 --> 03:11:08,000 um the Aurora Pro Aurora and 70th 4170 03:11:08,000 --> 03:11:13,190 project um is there anything 4171 03:11:13,200 --> 03:11:18,560 else oh no yeah definitely anybody yeah 4172 03:11:18,560 --> 03:11:21,760 I think uh no no we're good do do we 4173 03:11:21,760 --> 03:11:24,720 know the date of the it's January 21st 4174 03:11:24,720 --> 03:11:29,120 but is it a normal 6 pm time for the CIP 4175 03:11:29,120 --> 03:11:32,200 public hearing for the council 4176 03:11:32,200 --> 03:11:38,600 okay okay well thank you all for uh 4177 03:11:38,600 --> 03:11:41,319 three hours plus of your evening we did 4178 03:11:41,319 --> 03:11:43,200 some good work tonight I think we've got 4179 03:11:43,200 --> 03:11:44,760 a lot of great projects ahead in 4180 03:11:44,760 --> 03:11:47,760 Urbandale and um we'll see you 4181 03:11:47,760 --> 03:11:55,550 uh on the 16th thank you thank you 4182 03:11:55,560 --> 03:11:59,479 thanks what' you do you wanted to do 4183 03:11:59,479 --> 03:12:06,479 that Chief Isa thatas fire engine