1 00:00:00,110 --> 00:00:14,790 All right, everyone. We're going to get started. We're going to give our chair time to to get here. Um, but we that let's let's get things going. So to start off, uh, we just do a roll call. Um, 2 00:00:31,170 --> 00:00:35,570 All right, in person, maybe we'll just go around the table real quick. 3 00:00:35,790 --> 00:00:44,050 So I'm Kyle Brostrom, Brandon Howard, Ginger Chin, Rob Wilson, Ronald Smith, Justin 4 00:00:44,050 --> 00:00:49,810 Knight, and Dave Brost, Jeff Love, Helen Simmerick, Darren Brush, all right, and then online, 5 00:00:50,330 --> 00:00:55,430 I know we've got Parker Merton Tucker, let's see. 6 00:00:59,810 --> 00:01:08,530 Okay, and then we want to acknowledge our guests who are here, Jeremy Shaw, Assistant 7 00:01:08,530 --> 00:01:19,230 Attorney General, and Paige Lee, Lockhart, all right, and then Bridget, we're just doing 8 00:01:19,230 --> 00:01:19,630 roll call. 9 00:01:19,630 --> 00:01:21,010 Okay, I'm here. 10 00:01:21,230 --> 00:01:22,150 Bridget, you're hard. 11 00:01:26,010 --> 00:01:26,470 Okay. 12 00:01:26,710 --> 00:01:29,130 Okay, that's roll call. 13 00:01:29,510 --> 00:01:30,530 I, we need to. 14 00:01:30,690 --> 00:01:31,150 Kelly. 15 00:01:32,390 --> 00:01:33,150 Oh, thank you. 16 00:01:33,610 --> 00:01:34,430 Thank you. 17 00:01:34,430 --> 00:01:34,710 Go ahead. 18 00:01:35,850 --> 00:01:37,950 I'm up to come up in. 19 00:01:38,650 --> 00:01:39,630 Need us in our pledge. 20 00:01:39,750 --> 00:01:43,650 Emma, do you want to share with the board the program that you're in and how much longer 21 00:01:43,650 --> 00:01:44,090 you have to. 22 00:01:44,170 --> 00:01:44,530 Congratulations. 23 00:01:45,010 --> 00:01:45,990 My name is Emma. 24 00:01:45,990 --> 00:01:52,950 I'm in the circuit I've seen the system program and I graduated and I am doing the veterinary science 25 00:01:52,950 --> 00:01:54,410 post-accompetition. 26 00:01:54,630 --> 00:01:55,150 How much space? 27 00:01:55,610 --> 00:01:55,830 All right. 28 00:01:55,970 --> 00:01:56,050 Here. 29 00:01:56,750 --> 00:02:00,510 Would you please join me to the pledge of allegiance to 30 00:02:05,090 --> 00:02:08,970 the Black and the United States of America and the 31 00:02:08,970 --> 00:02:17,410 United States of America for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 32 00:02:18,110 --> 00:02:18,390 All right. 33 00:02:18,530 --> 00:02:19,050 Thank you very much. 34 00:02:30,300 --> 00:02:36,060 Yeah, okay, you want to tell us what we're going to do next here instead of having everyone 35 00:02:36,060 --> 00:02:36,580 come in here? 36 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:42,560 So, thank you, Mr. Vice Chair, we're calling an audible, which is why we're shifting a little 37 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:42,720 bit. 38 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:50,420 We thought, as is tradition, we'd bring our HOSA and skills USA champions in because they're 39 00:02:50,420 --> 00:02:55,200 going to compete this summer. Actually, our coordinators will explain more about it, so 40 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,660 I shouldn't steal it, but there are far too many of them to bring into this room. So, 41 00:02:59,140 --> 00:03:02,540 if you're willing, we thought we'd take the board to them. So, there, as you can hear, 42 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:11,500 are all out the hall. So, I think, because this is an audible, we would typically introduce 43 00:03:11,500 --> 00:03:17,600 all of them, but we probably, I think they would appreciate us introducing you to, 44 00:03:20,380 --> 00:03:20,400 or you 45 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:25,420 Yeah, so if that's okay, we'll just pause the meeting for a moment and we'll stand up 46 00:03:25,420 --> 00:03:30,560 then. Yeah, they are a wonderful group of students and they are the best of the best 47 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:35,500 in the state and they are traveling to for skills, the national competition in Atlanta 48 00:03:35,500 --> 00:03:39,960 next month, but for hosts, it's the international competition of many different countries 49 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:45,520 from around the world. And so it's kind of a big deal. This is our Rose Bowl or whatever 50 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,500 wherever the equivalent is, so this is fun. 51 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:48,460 Yeah, wow. 52 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:49,680 Sending a lot of it. 53 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:51,600 Student, that's really cool. 54 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:52,760 All right. 55 00:04:19,350 --> 00:04:20,710 I'm screwed, I'll be all right. 56 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:40,920 That's great. 57 00:04:41,420 --> 00:04:41,980 Oh my 58 00:04:48,060 --> 00:04:48,240 god. 59 00:04:48,780 --> 00:04:51,340 Thanks for bearing with us that we were told 60 00:04:51,340 --> 00:04:54,240 and seeing how it is true for us 61 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,020 to see people that ran to that tiny road. 62 00:04:56,020 --> 00:05:12,580 So we'd like to, I'm Kyle Roach from on the Vice-Chairn Board, I'm the President of the Holy Cross Hospital of Data, STEM Road, and it's real pleasure being here with you and helping with your send-off. 63 00:05:13,220 --> 00:05:20,300 Maybe we begin with, we'd love to hear a little bit more about you, but maybe for us to kind of go down the 64 00:05:20,300 --> 00:05:25,520 road line and introduce all of us to you, so you know who represents you on the board here. 65 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:33,500 So my name is Ron Smith, I'm a technical director, so chief engineer on base at Giller Space. 66 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:40,040 So if any of you are looking for jobs, I'll see you as soon as you're always looking for some of that. 67 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:47,000 Appreciate being here with you. My name is Bridget your art so I'm the president of the Davis Board of Education and 68 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:53,020 You guys are amazing and I just love to have the opportunity to talk with each one of you individually, but I know no no no 69 00:05:53,020 --> 00:05:58,420 We don't have time for that but good luck and you're gonna do a great job. You already are 70 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:07,360 Hi everyone. My name is Brad Wilson and I am currently the CEO of the Utah 71 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:13,500 2034 Olympic and Paralympic Games that are about 2,800 days away. 72 00:06:19,300 --> 00:06:24,160 Congratulations, best of luck to you as you go out and represent this amazing 73 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:25,820 school across the world. 74 00:06:26,300 --> 00:06:27,360 Thank you for all you're doing. 75 00:06:28,840 --> 00:06:34,760 My name's Ginger, and I do government relations work and we're in aerospace and defense company 76 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:40,580 All across Utah, but we're national, we have 100,000 employees nationally, and we're looking for more. 77 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,180 So I'll echo the airport, so if we listen to the word, let us know. 78 00:06:44,460 --> 00:06:46,440 And congratulations, you guys will do so well. 79 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:47,460 We're super excited for you. 80 00:06:48,180 --> 00:06:52,940 My name's Andrea Brooks, and I represent Oregon's chemistry district on the board of chemistry. 81 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:54,380 Oh my gosh, they can't talk. 82 00:06:54,580 --> 00:06:54,860 They're good. 83 00:06:55,220 --> 00:06:56,700 I'll just echo the congratulations. 84 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:57,120 Thank you. 85 00:06:57,220 --> 00:06:57,280 Good luck. 86 00:06:57,660 --> 00:06:58,120 Congratulations. 87 00:06:58,980 --> 00:07:03,500 I'm reading how industry representative and also craft father to recent graduates. 88 00:07:03,500 --> 00:07:05,900 So, thank you for all your hard work and dedication. 89 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:09,720 Hey there, I'm Justin Atkinson. 90 00:07:09,900 --> 00:07:12,460 I work at the University of Utah Health System. 91 00:07:12,740 --> 00:07:15,120 I work at the clinic in Farmington. 92 00:07:15,460 --> 00:07:17,940 And we're always looking for great health care workers. 93 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:19,680 And facilities, maintenance engineers, 94 00:07:19,980 --> 00:07:21,060 there's lots of opportunities there. 95 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,440 But congratulations on your best of luck on this audition. 96 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:27,380 What's that? 97 00:07:27,460 --> 00:07:28,040 Sean and Mari. 98 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:29,860 How do you introduce yourselves? 99 00:07:30,860 --> 00:07:32,440 Yeah, so I'm Sean and you are. 100 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:40,060 I'm Sean Swapwhite, kind of over-seagulled at Skills USA, so these ones down here are the Skills USA students closest down there. 101 00:07:40,540 --> 00:07:45,220 This is probably the biggest group that you can see that we probably ever have, and they're incredible. 102 00:07:46,020 --> 00:07:51,280 We've got 22 students for Skills USA going next week to Atlanta, so pretty quick. 103 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:52,520 It's exciting. 104 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:59,820 Hi, I'm Marie Russard, I'm the advisor for Hosa, and we're taking 30 to our international 105 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:06,400 competition in Indianapolis, almost through, just under two weeks, and it's all this 106 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:06,660 way. 107 00:08:06,940 --> 00:08:08,720 So there's a whole bunch of them. 108 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,480 Thank you so much for couriering. 109 00:08:12,540 --> 00:08:14,980 Is this first time for a courier or any returning? 110 00:08:15,500 --> 00:08:16,460 There's a couple of returning. 111 00:08:16,940 --> 00:08:17,600 Where's your family? 112 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:18,780 Okay your work. 113 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:28,000 Absolutely, how fast do you think we can go through and you can give your name and your 114 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:28,540 competition. 115 00:08:28,860 --> 00:08:29,960 Can we do that really quickly? 116 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:31,280 Do you mind? 117 00:08:31,620 --> 00:08:31,780 Okay. 118 00:08:31,980 --> 00:08:32,600 Let's do it. 119 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:38,000 I will decide, and we have a meeting on for a 12th. 120 00:08:38,100 --> 00:08:38,600 This is the last date. 121 00:08:39,140 --> 00:08:40,200 Dan Covadazone. 122 00:08:40,700 --> 00:08:41,740 Thank you for having us. 123 00:08:41,740 --> 00:08:42,040 Thank you for having us. 124 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,820 Like I'm Dixon for the funny David Thompson is plumbing. 125 00:08:44,820 --> 00:08:48,260 My name is Aiden Fugue, I'm for the virtual S.U.A.S. 126 00:08:49,300 --> 00:08:52,120 I've allowed to some also for the virtual S.U.A.S. 127 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:53,040 Drone's competition. 128 00:08:53,700 --> 00:08:54,520 I'm Isaac Erickson. 129 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,020 I'm for industrial motor controls. 130 00:08:56,940 --> 00:08:59,180 I'm all on my sacred, well-known sculpture. 131 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,500 I'm Stephanie and I'm for Internet work. 132 00:09:01,940 --> 00:09:02,940 I'm sorry, I'm welcome. 133 00:09:03,460 --> 00:09:05,080 I'm for promotional bulletin board. 134 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:06,080 I'm Kayla Harvey. 135 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:07,880 I'm for promotional bulletin board. 136 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:08,820 I'm Abby Collar. 137 00:09:08,940 --> 00:09:10,400 I'm also for promotional bulletin board. 138 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:11,820 I'm Megan Serain. 139 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:13,060 I am a pin design. 140 00:09:13,860 --> 00:09:15,760 Brinkley Harris, T-shirt design. 141 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,800 I'm James Sensen, web-debt competition. 142 00:09:20,500 --> 00:09:22,040 Maximus Jacobs, web-debt development. 143 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,320 Mason Hancock, diesel technology. 144 00:09:25,620 --> 00:09:29,260 Oh, I'm Alexandra Pacheco, dental terminology. 145 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,020 Lily Evans, dental terminology. 146 00:09:32,580 --> 00:09:34,100 Prado, who is yet dental terminology? 147 00:09:34,660 --> 00:09:35,760 They don't start out interesting. 148 00:09:36,300 --> 00:09:38,000 Susan Haugann, national assistant. 149 00:09:38,700 --> 00:09:39,940 Emma Carr, Betcher, science. 150 00:09:43,020 --> 00:09:46,320 Friends of Carlisle, I'm substituting for the EMT. 151 00:09:47,740 --> 00:09:49,960 Matthew, I thought I was doing the EMT competition. 152 00:09:51,380 --> 00:09:51,500 Right. 153 00:09:52,060 --> 00:09:53,680 Howdy quilters, if you're in first aid. 154 00:09:54,560 --> 00:09:56,080 If you're in first aid, if you're in first aid. 155 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,220 Mainly older EMT. 156 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:00,460 You can put some EMT. 157 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,180 Only turn a EMT. 158 00:10:03,820 --> 00:10:05,220 You can build this EMT. 159 00:10:05,740 --> 00:10:06,880 Logan Thomas, EMT. 160 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,280 Melanie Morrison's, there's a little technology. 161 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:15,760 Sam and Ray, I just don't know. 162 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:17,320 I'm Kim, I'm new. 163 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:18,440 Click on Earth, anyway. 164 00:10:20,420 --> 00:10:21,800 You get to come over to the place. 165 00:10:22,180 --> 00:10:22,520 Thank you. 166 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:24,800 I'm Jay. 167 00:10:24,980 --> 00:10:25,360 Oh, I'm Jay. 168 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:26,180 Oh, I'm Jay. 169 00:10:26,460 --> 00:10:26,800 I'm Jay. 170 00:10:28,660 --> 00:10:29,020 Oh, I'm Jay. 171 00:10:29,020 --> 00:10:29,220 Oh, I'm Jay. 172 00:10:29,220 --> 00:10:29,260 Oh, I'm Jay. 173 00:10:29,260 --> 00:10:29,840 Oh, I'm Jay. 174 00:10:31,020 --> 00:10:31,740 Oh, I'm Jay. 175 00:10:37,940 --> 00:10:38,780 Oh, I'm Jay. 176 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:44,160 We're going to hold it more than we're going to get it for our kids at that. 177 00:10:45,380 --> 00:10:45,860 I 178 00:10:54,950 --> 00:10:55,750 want to find your competition. 179 00:10:56,010 --> 00:11:01,190 We look forward to hearing about the results and talking to many of you. 180 00:11:02,330 --> 00:11:03,290 Thank you. 181 00:11:03,390 --> 00:11:03,490 Thank you. 182 00:11:03,490 --> 00:11:04,010 Thank you for being here. 183 00:11:04,850 --> 00:11:05,390 Thank you. 184 00:11:17,670 --> 00:11:17,970 Great. 185 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:33,400 I'm glad you had the mentor. 186 00:11:34,140 --> 00:11:34,620 Yeah. 187 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,040 Yeah, that was really nice. 188 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:40,200 I don't remember. I only remembered that tape year. 189 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,520 We've already been here. 190 00:11:44,620 --> 00:11:46,520 Wow. Impressive. 191 00:11:47,860 --> 00:11:49,940 It's full community celebrates. 192 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:50,800 It is. 193 00:11:51,900 --> 00:11:52,340 Okay. 194 00:11:53,560 --> 00:11:56,180 So I think president, I think you have the next... 195 00:11:56,180 --> 00:11:57,180 Oh, I do. Thank you. 196 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:57,840 ...denda topic. 197 00:11:58,140 --> 00:11:59,200 And by the way, thank you for... 198 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:01,400 ...in the oldenments on that. 199 00:12:01,660 --> 00:12:02,000 I love that. 200 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:02,720 That was really neat. 201 00:12:03,380 --> 00:12:04,820 Okay, that was the highlight of the meeting. 202 00:12:04,820 --> 00:12:11,440 well besides this presentation I'm going to make so thank you and I got a text 203 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:17,540 from Chair Tran she's on her way so we're pleased to have Stacey Hutchings with 204 00:12:17,540 --> 00:12:24,800 us and we just wanted on behalf of a grateful college to recognize Stacey 205 00:12:25,620 --> 00:12:31,380 Stacey left us a couple months ago two months ago did you start officially two 206 00:12:31,380 --> 00:12:38,300 two months ago? Almost two months ago. After nearly ten years as a director of 207 00:12:38,300 --> 00:12:42,700 career path high, the first charter early technical college high school in 208 00:12:42,700 --> 00:12:47,120 the state. She was called into that duty, I think, one about a year and a half 209 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:52,240 after you were on the board of career path high, and it was a heavy lift to get 210 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:56,780 the school going, and the board realized they needed your steady hand as the 211 00:12:56,780 --> 00:13:01,880 director of the school and did that for nearly a decade. Again, against her 212 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:06,940 better judgment for a few years, she simultaneously accepted an assignment from 213 00:13:06,940 --> 00:13:12,300 me to be my senior advisor for secondary students building out, really building 214 00:13:12,300 --> 00:13:16,560 out pathways with our two school districts, Morgan and Davis School District, 215 00:13:16,820 --> 00:13:23,940 from which we'll always benefit. So I am certainly grateful to Stacey. She was 216 00:13:23,940 --> 00:13:29,420 also the director of my son's high school where he graduated from so on a 217 00:13:29,420 --> 00:13:34,100 personal level you you mean a lot to me. Last year Governor Cox appointed 218 00:13:34,100 --> 00:13:38,740 Stacey to the Utah State Charter School Board and then just about two 219 00:13:38,740 --> 00:13:42,480 months ago she was named the executive director of the State Charter School Board 220 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:48,440 so they knew they had a good thing. This is fun for me also to share Stacey began 221 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:53,180 her teaching career in history a passion of mine and Spanish at current junior 222 00:13:53,180 --> 00:13:59,540 High School and Riverton High School be cut before becoming a founding teacher at Utah Virtual Academy. 223 00:13:59,900 --> 00:14:00,880 Is that where the two of you met? 224 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:01,300 Yeah. 225 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:02,220 That's right. 226 00:14:02,420 --> 00:14:03,820 Analyse Will, here from Analyse later. 227 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:04,220 That's right. 228 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:13,000 She earned degrees from the University of Utah, a school south of there, and Western Governor's University. 229 00:14:15,180 --> 00:14:23,160 So, queer path high owes so much to Stacey Hutchings, and we're glad you came back for a return visit 230 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:28,920 And so, for your leadership as director of Career Path Eye and your unwavering dedication 231 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:34,860 to empowering students to achieve their goals and build meaningful futures with thanks, 232 00:14:34,940 --> 00:14:35,780 Davis Technical College. 233 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:36,420 Yeah. 234 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:37,480 Look, 235 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,100 so we get a picture of this. 236 00:14:45,140 --> 00:14:45,440 Yeah. 237 00:14:46,260 --> 00:14:46,720 We get a picture. 238 00:14:46,740 --> 00:14:47,640 Maybe we get a picture. 239 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:48,160 I will. 240 00:14:48,580 --> 00:14:49,500 We got here on. 241 00:14:50,300 --> 00:14:51,220 We got a picture. 242 00:14:51,220 --> 00:14:51,860 We got here on. 243 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:52,360 We got here on. 244 00:14:52,580 --> 00:14:52,980 We got here on. 245 00:14:53,140 --> 00:14:53,840 We got here on. 246 00:14:55,460 --> 00:14:58,740 We got here on. 247 00:14:58,740 --> 00:14:59,600 That's okay. 248 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,460 Yeah. Okay. 249 00:15:04,340 --> 00:15:04,840 Congratulations. 250 00:15:07,460 --> 00:15:16,140 Good job. Wow. And an honor of a late time. Okay. All right. 251 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,140 This is, I think I just open up. Please 252 00:15:26,140 --> 00:15:32,200 Please try to make sure, recognize if there are any members of the public or any public comment. 253 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:36,160 And or any public comment, either in the room or online. 254 00:15:39,090 --> 00:15:45,770 So now, okay, moving on to the consent calendar, 255 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,100 Mr. Vice Chair. 256 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,060 Yeah, I'd like to make an unusual request. 257 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:57,120 I would like to pull item L, lashing brow technician program out. 258 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:01,440 Do we think it deserves just a little bit more explanation to make sure the board is aware of so Dr. 259 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:07,520 Simrac will cover that if you don't mind otherwise. Okay. The board will be free to prove the rest of the consent calendar if it wishes. 260 00:16:09,380 --> 00:16:11,580 All right, so with that. 261 00:16:13,500 --> 00:16:25,780 So we'll pull letter L from the consent calendar and ask for a motion to prove the consent agenda. 262 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:30,480 Okay. 263 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:30,800 Minus. 264 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:31,880 Minus. 265 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:32,320 Minus L. 266 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:33,120 Minus L. 267 00:16:33,260 --> 00:16:33,600 Lash and Dr. 268 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:34,020 Okay. 269 00:16:34,780 --> 00:16:35,320 I'll second that. 270 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:36,800 Okay. 271 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:37,820 All in favor? 272 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,860 All right. 273 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:43,200 All right, President. 274 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:45,460 Any opposed? 275 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:46,600 Oh, any opposed? 276 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,220 We do need the... 277 00:16:48,220 --> 00:16:51,420 All right, motion passed. 278 00:16:52,100 --> 00:16:53,160 Thank you for coaching. 279 00:16:54,900 --> 00:16:55,380 Okay. 280 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:56,340 All right. 281 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:56,820 Thank you. 282 00:16:57,740 --> 00:16:58,540 All right. 283 00:16:58,640 --> 00:16:58,700 All right. 284 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:03,600 All right, so we'll go back to that. 285 00:17:03,660 --> 00:17:05,960 Yeah, so I was going to say, do you want to go back? 286 00:17:07,460 --> 00:17:07,740 Yeah. 287 00:17:08,260 --> 00:17:09,960 Kelly wanted to talk about it. 288 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,260 Yeah, so June is some ambiguity in policy. 289 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,960 You should policy regarding starting new technical education programs. 290 00:17:17,340 --> 00:17:22,040 We're seeking conditional approval of our new lash and brow technician, 291 00:17:22,060 --> 00:17:24,720 which when you say it too fast, you say, 292 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:33,640 Um, um, Brash and Lowe, last in Brown technician. Um, so while we, while it works, it's 293 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,340 way through the issue process. So we're seeking conditional approval so that, because 294 00:17:37,340 --> 00:17:41,320 we don't meet again until the end of September, so that as soon as you she, it goes through 295 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,980 the issue process, we can go ahead and get students started in it. We have already met 296 00:17:45,980 --> 00:17:53,240 with a USU Eastern who's the only other institution planning on starting, Brash and Brow, um, during 297 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:59,640 this next academic year and our faculty have met. They've agreed on outcomes program description, 298 00:17:59,860 --> 00:18:06,760 course descriptions and course objectives. So we are really just waiting on UCI to go through 299 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:13,080 their their approval process. We appreciate UCI support as we've kind of navigated. We are I think 300 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:21,220 this is the first new new program under these new this new changing evolving process. And they've 301 00:18:21,220 --> 00:18:23,740 been supportive in us kind of bringing this forward for conditional 302 00:18:23,740 --> 00:18:24,420 approval today. 303 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,300 Your approval today will kind of will prevent future delays. 304 00:18:27,540 --> 00:18:32,220 So as soon as you see it gets their their parts there would be able to go ahead 305 00:18:32,220 --> 00:18:35,700 and start students and I hope is to start our first cohort in September. 306 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,960 And we're responding to, uh, we've talked about this before as a board, 307 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,840 but we're responding to an industry need. 308 00:18:41,940 --> 00:18:45,500 This is a licensed occupation by the Division of Occupational Professional 309 00:18:45,500 --> 00:18:46,040 Licensing. 310 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,200 So it's incumbent upon us to teach a licensed program. 311 00:18:54,800 --> 00:19:01,700 It's a standalone, it's now a standalone license with the legislation from two sessions ago. 312 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:13,080 So we were tabling this for future or do you ask for additional approval based on the 313 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:13,800 UCI? 314 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:14,180 Yeah. 315 00:19:14,460 --> 00:19:20,860 And then the expectation would be that we would follow up for formal approval over email. 316 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:21,880 Okay. 317 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:29,360 She's really revamping the entire program approval process to ensure that programs are 318 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:36,240 meeting more rigorous criteria in terms of demand and warranting funding and so forth. 319 00:19:36,500 --> 00:19:39,880 So we're kind of caught in the development of that process. 320 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:45,280 So we want to just, as Kelly suggested, we want to seek the condition approval in order 321 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:46,940 that the timing will line up. 322 00:19:47,140 --> 00:19:49,900 And then we'll report back to the board in September where we are. 323 00:19:49,900 --> 00:19:53,160 Any concerns from any members of the board? 324 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:55,880 Granting conditional approval? 325 00:19:57,420 --> 00:19:58,020 No. 326 00:19:58,900 --> 00:20:01,160 Should we need to formally vote on that? 327 00:20:01,260 --> 00:20:06,400 Okay, so do we have a motion to provide conditional approval and a last-and-grow 328 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,060 program for any additional approval? 329 00:20:10,750 --> 00:20:11,010 Second. 330 00:20:13,950 --> 00:20:14,210 All right. 331 00:20:14,630 --> 00:20:15,290 All in favor? 332 00:20:15,770 --> 00:20:15,890 Aye. 333 00:20:18,010 --> 00:20:18,950 Any opposed? 334 00:20:20,670 --> 00:20:21,370 All right. 335 00:20:21,470 --> 00:20:21,970 Motion passed. 336 00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:24,030 Okay. 337 00:20:24,030 --> 00:20:33,760 all right next agenda item we'll turn it back well it looks like well did you 338 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:38,280 want to introduce this president we'll go back to career path I part of the 339 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,420 Kellyanne and Jeff given the introduction I thank you for the 340 00:20:41,420 --> 00:20:46,740 opportunity I'll just say pretty easy up till now we've got three big things on 341 00:20:46,740 --> 00:20:51,340 this agenda today so and here they come so the first is our continued 342 00:20:51,340 --> 00:20:57,340 conversation about career path high and your appointees to the career path high are our 343 00:20:57,340 --> 00:21:06,000 vice-presidents, Kelly and Jeff and so I would you like to introduce the topic. It's time 344 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,980 for our annual report. I don't know what is wrong today. 345 00:21:11,260 --> 00:21:13,680 Maybe there's a lot of stuff 346 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:20,520 going on today. So we always get a report in this meeting from career path high. 347 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:26,900 Yeah, but there's more in addition to that to talk about so that's my introduction to topic and who takes it from here 348 00:21:26,900 --> 00:21:27,580 I have no idea 349 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:36,600 When was they see leaving the beginning of April we really the 350 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,240 Pre-Pet High Board very much appreciates 351 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:45,440 Annalisa is being willing to step into finish out the school year and then also has a great day 352 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:52,000 continue on as our director for next school year. So she's going to do kind of the normal 353 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:57,240 end of the year-ish report because there's some stuff we still don't know. And then, 354 00:21:57,500 --> 00:22:03,940 Jeff and I will kind of tag team a continuation of the conversation that we've had kind of about 355 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:10,430 future career pathite with some additional projects going forward. So, Emily, can you turn 356 00:22:14,090 --> 00:22:18,390 So I'm not stacey and for that I apologize, but I will do my best. 357 00:22:19,430 --> 00:22:22,870 So the first slide we have is our enrollment numbers. 358 00:22:23,390 --> 00:22:26,630 It's on, but it's not going to get back. 359 00:22:27,010 --> 00:22:27,410 Here we go. 360 00:22:27,850 --> 00:22:28,550 That looks familiar. 361 00:22:34,030 --> 00:22:34,210 Okay. 362 00:22:34,490 --> 00:22:35,270 I'll do it. 363 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,320 So the top is our current enrollment. 364 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,240 This is what we finished the year with. 365 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:49,800 You roll those forward because everybody goes up a grade and that's who's planning on returning 366 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:56,140 9th grade is pending some CPH 4 decisions, otherwise they'll be our incoming lottery. 367 00:22:57,260 --> 00:23:01,120 Pending in accepted right now is still pretty low, it's still pretty early in the summer 368 00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:03,840 for our big summer application. 369 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,560 So I have our historic summer estimates here, this is the low end. 370 00:23:08,360 --> 00:23:15,340 So from all of those, we have our estimated 27 enrollment and I included 9th grade on that 371 00:23:15,340 --> 00:23:19,120 just so you can get an idea of what that would probably look like if we include that. 372 00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:22,080 and you can all do math, so my X-14 would be without. 373 00:23:24,540 --> 00:23:26,680 So we self-explanatory there. 374 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,620 Grad rate came in today. 375 00:23:29,020 --> 00:23:30,160 This is up for us. 376 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,900 This is really a big deal for us. 377 00:23:33,020 --> 00:23:33,340 Yeah. 378 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,110 That is so much work. 379 00:23:37,330 --> 00:23:38,990 And Stacy, this is Stacy's work. 380 00:23:40,470 --> 00:23:43,450 A lot of work this year around making sure 381 00:23:43,450 --> 00:23:45,910 we track their graduates and just our staff 382 00:23:45,910 --> 00:23:48,210 worked so hard to get our seniors over the finish line. 383 00:23:48,410 --> 00:23:50,030 I am so proud of them. 384 00:23:50,030 --> 00:23:54,950 and for that grad rate and our special education grad rate is 77% which might 385 00:23:54,950 --> 00:23:59,570 sound low but it's above the state average and it's pretty awesome too so what 386 00:23:59,570 --> 00:24:05,410 is what are the color codes of green green and dark green bright green is 387 00:24:05,410 --> 00:24:11,670 regular graduates dark green are students who graduate with like honors or 388 00:24:11,670 --> 00:24:17,050 other marks and we had those in there for our staff and then great are the students 389 00:24:17,050 --> 00:24:20,790 that either loved and we didn't track after they left us or not graduates. 390 00:24:23,750 --> 00:24:25,050 This is current program enrollment. 391 00:24:25,390 --> 00:24:25,910 This has changed. 392 00:24:26,170 --> 00:24:29,110 If I pulled it for the date on there, Sam and I went over this together. 393 00:24:29,930 --> 00:24:31,830 This is for our 11th and 12th grade. 394 00:24:32,410 --> 00:24:35,110 And I don't know if Sam's not here, but we'll just... 395 00:24:35,110 --> 00:24:35,850 Oh, very, yeah. 396 00:24:36,090 --> 00:24:37,110 So Sam and I talked about this. 397 00:24:37,250 --> 00:24:40,510 And I think we'll get more and more accurate on this as we go forward to the report. 398 00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:44,290 And this is program enrollment in Davis Tech. 399 00:24:44,370 --> 00:24:44,690 Oh, yes. 400 00:24:45,090 --> 00:24:45,430 Thank you. 401 00:24:45,550 --> 00:24:45,750 Yes. 402 00:24:46,330 --> 00:24:47,290 Thank you for clarifying. 403 00:24:48,410 --> 00:24:54,290 and just some really brief updates. Next year we're going to be adding a CCR which is our credit 404 00:24:54,750 --> 00:25:01,010 counseling thing and a DTC liaison position so that'll be her dedicated position. We're adding 405 00:25:01,770 --> 00:25:06,250 really targeted support for our kiddos who come down here like how do you act on a college campus? 406 00:25:06,970 --> 00:25:12,410 What do you do when you don't feel like going to school at college sort of support? And then we're 407 00:25:12,410 --> 00:25:16,710 We're going to start adding a new highlight, not a new highlight, but a especially bright 408 00:25:16,710 --> 00:25:21,590 highlight to parent conversations about the DTC program and leveraging some of the resources 409 00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:23,030 that Sam's offered us in those. 410 00:25:23,330 --> 00:25:26,150 So, any questions? 411 00:25:27,770 --> 00:25:28,210 Ray and Elise? 412 00:25:30,810 --> 00:25:37,850 Well, and obviously, as we go through these next slides, we welcome you to Amstacy to provide 413 00:25:37,850 --> 00:25:38,830 any additional contact. 414 00:25:39,550 --> 00:25:42,670 So, just a little bit of review of the history and challenges CPH. 415 00:25:43,150 --> 00:25:50,030 They were established as charter school here in 2013, and they were one of the first charter schools to be sponsored by an institution of higher education. 416 00:25:50,570 --> 00:25:55,030 And actually one of the few that are, most are chartered by the state charter board. 417 00:25:55,810 --> 00:25:59,730 The original charter included directives to addressing career pathways. 418 00:26:00,230 --> 00:26:05,590 So, you know, the idea is that while they're working towards their high school, the quality is also our industry certifications. 419 00:26:05,590 --> 00:26:12,470 And the charter outlines the two Davis Tech Board that authorizes two appointees and 420 00:26:12,470 --> 00:26:14,710 currently that's Dr. Semmerkin myself. 421 00:26:15,810 --> 00:26:21,850 The challenge is since 2013 is about the last few years, the enrollment has been fairly 422 00:26:21,850 --> 00:26:23,170 stagnant, it's not declining. 423 00:26:24,610 --> 00:26:29,550 COVID didn't do any favors and there is a lot more competition in the charter school right 424 00:26:29,550 --> 00:26:31,350 now than there was in 2010. 425 00:26:31,990 --> 00:26:37,890 So there are some of the challenges that they face, and CPH is currently sort of a high 426 00:26:37,890 --> 00:26:41,730 proportion of students who need credit recovery or an alternative high school experience 427 00:26:41,730 --> 00:26:48,530 or approach, and that means that not a lot of their students are able to enroll or complete 428 00:26:48,530 --> 00:26:56,290 the data stack programs, which is part of the main focus of the chart, and that leads us 429 00:26:56,290 --> 00:27:05,030 to a discussion that began about four years ago with new names, and A.W. Services is 430 00:27:05,030 --> 00:27:12,110 the business provider for Career Path π. With an exploration about operation of both schools, 431 00:27:12,890 --> 00:27:18,430 new names began on Davis text campus, which was their first permanent location, and they've 432 00:27:18,430 --> 00:27:24,990 had students here that whole time, but we're just looking to enhance that presence, and they've 433 00:27:24,990 --> 00:27:28,510 I've always had a strong student enrollment and that's increased over the prior years. 434 00:27:29,630 --> 00:27:34,150 And new aims is also going to be changing their charter to include and recognize technical 435 00:27:34,150 --> 00:27:38,710 college STEM education in addition to what they've always been doing with Weaver State. 436 00:27:39,590 --> 00:27:46,890 So they're expanding their charter to be more inclusive of the needs that the employers 437 00:27:46,890 --> 00:27:47,530 in our area. 438 00:27:48,270 --> 00:27:53,710 And so this is in response to not only the communities needs but also the interests of their students. 439 00:27:53,710 --> 00:28:01,370 So, we think that this is a really strong collaboration opportunity to enhance the experience 440 00:28:01,370 --> 00:28:06,630 for our current group of faculty and students, as well as for the new and student body. 441 00:28:07,610 --> 00:28:09,710 And just some additional context too. 442 00:28:10,130 --> 00:28:15,170 So, when we originally met, it was almost four years ago, Stacey, Darren, myself, Kelly 443 00:28:15,170 --> 00:28:19,950 Booth, who's the executive director at New Leans, and academic folks. 444 00:28:19,950 --> 00:28:26,030 And could we sustain two high schools on our campus? 445 00:28:26,230 --> 00:28:28,750 And that didn't feel great for anybody. 446 00:28:29,170 --> 00:28:32,630 And we had varying levels of patients 447 00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:35,150 for moving things forward. 448 00:28:35,410 --> 00:28:39,010 And so I just mentioned we do have quite a few new 449 00:28:39,010 --> 00:28:43,870 students who currently are enrolled here. 450 00:28:43,970 --> 00:28:46,930 But as we've kind of talked about some of the struggles 451 00:28:46,930 --> 00:28:51,750 that Krupep High has had and we've said this in our last four 452 00:28:51,750 --> 00:28:58,870 meeting to this is this is 100% a change in the landscape of education, 453 00:28:59,010 --> 00:29:02,310 not any lack of effort. 454 00:29:03,250 --> 00:29:07,710 I mean, my gosh, as we said at graduation last week is the passion and 455 00:29:07,710 --> 00:29:13,250 dedication that the Krupep High faculty have for helping these students 456 00:29:13,250 --> 00:29:14,950 is unmatched. 457 00:29:14,950 --> 00:29:30,310 But yet we've continued to struggle with getting students and then meeting the intent of the original charter. 458 00:29:30,730 --> 00:29:36,070 And while yes, we did have 80% of our students participate in Davis Tech programs. 459 00:29:36,370 --> 00:29:39,810 It wasn't always meaningful participation. 460 00:29:39,810 --> 00:29:47,770 So, we had, I think, five or six of the graduating seniors that had graduated from one of our programs. 461 00:29:48,270 --> 00:29:56,370 But sometimes, you know, we know high school students are always very motivated to do high school, much less an additional program. 462 00:29:56,370 --> 00:29:59,970 And so we really, we've talked about it. 463 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:29,940 Last week, President Brush, Stacy, Jeff, myself, what can we do? Because, like we shared with this board, I think our last board meeting, you know, concerned over fiscal viability of the school. And so without some drastic change, is career path is still going to be able to be a charter school. And so that re-opened the door to the New Ames College. 464 00:30:29,940 --> 00:30:31,540 conversation and 465 00:30:32,140 --> 00:30:39,040 Prior to CC leaving we started we started down this road again, and so for those of you 466 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:44,260 I'm assuming everyone in this room is pretty familiar with newings, but they are their administration is 467 00:30:45,180 --> 00:30:50,220 All over the world at graduations and weddings today, so none of them could be here 468 00:30:50,220 --> 00:30:59,220 But they are a public charter school 10 through 12th grade with with the STEM focus. They're northern Utah Academy from math engineering and science 469 00:30:59,220 --> 00:31:09,040 Currently, graduation requirements require students to do an extra year of science, an extra year of math, and then graduate with two years of either computer science or engineering. 470 00:31:10,220 --> 00:31:22,180 As Jeff mentioned, they are changing their charter, so it will be two years of computer science engineering or the technical college coursework, because when they open their new names, 471 00:31:22,180 --> 00:31:28,080 Ogden location, they saw a very different student body than what they have at the 472 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:34,200 Nurems Davis, Davis location. And so one of the conversations that Andrea 473 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:40,200 Otterpou is online and I had with with Annalisa's staff a couple weeks ago was 474 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:45,860 we anticipate that this Nurems will look different from the other two Nurems, 475 00:31:45,980 --> 00:31:51,420 every Nurems location has a very different culture and population and the 476 00:31:51,420 --> 00:31:52,480 students that they attract. 477 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,600 Nuins has earned a platinum STEM school designation, 478 00:31:59,020 --> 00:32:01,020 the highest scoring, the high school, 479 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,300 and the Utah comprehensive accountability system. 480 00:32:03,860 --> 00:32:06,360 They, we're doing a share of just a couple of other slides. 481 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,560 Again, just going to go over really quickly with you. 482 00:32:09,540 --> 00:32:13,280 They are, they were established in 2008 or 2004. 483 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,380 We were the first permanent location. 484 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,000 And every year we have about 70 to 75 students 485 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,600 It's from new and so are currently participating in our programs. 486 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,840 And they actually have a classroom up in our Barlow building, 487 00:32:27,860 --> 00:32:31,420 as well as an office or a counselor. 488 00:32:32,020 --> 00:32:34,480 So their students are getting academic support 489 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,140 for their online newings classes 490 00:32:36,140 --> 00:32:38,680 when they're here doing Davis Tech programs during the day. 491 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,340 And then this last year, 492 00:32:41,500 --> 00:32:45,940 we actually piloted our first ever IT networking 493 00:32:45,940 --> 00:32:48,400 and cyber security program in a high school. 494 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:57,360 So, we teach our faculty, teach at Millions High School on their Davis campus, our IT Networking and Cybersecurity, 495 00:32:57,940 --> 00:33:01,980 and to say that that program has been successful would be an understatement. 496 00:33:02,460 --> 00:33:07,000 Their students really are thriving in that model. 497 00:33:07,420 --> 00:33:14,440 And then we'll also be starting CNA for Millions Davis folks, students in the fall as well. 498 00:33:15,420 --> 00:33:20,620 There are target population is any student who is looking for an early college experience 499 00:33:20,620 --> 00:33:26,940 who is willing to work and learn and also I would say there is a lot of peril and the 500 00:33:26,940 --> 00:33:32,600 bend diagram of it all there is a lot of space at career path high and new aims meet the 501 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:38,480 needs of students who don't quite are getting their needs met in their local high school. 502 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,520 There are no emissions requirements it is a lottery system. 503 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:47,740 So students will leave with a variety of college credit options. 504 00:33:52,340 --> 00:33:57,760 The idea is, I'll just go right to the next slide. 505 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:03,760 We have sign an MOU, we being the Career Path High Board and the Newings Board have signed an MOU 506 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,380 and it is in your boardbook page 137. 507 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,500 It is an agreement to look at merging our schools into one. 508 00:34:12,780 --> 00:34:19,800 It is, we've been really thoughtful, we think, we hope, we've been really thoughtful 509 00:34:20,460 --> 00:34:26,080 as the group has high board and ensuring that our students are taking care of, that staff are taking care of. 510 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:37,200 Williams plans on inviting an administrator for this next year to learn and learn staff, meet staff, meet with families, meet with students. 511 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:42,340 And because of the size and scale that new names has, they have about 1,250 students 512 00:34:42,340 --> 00:34:44,120 across their two current campuses. 513 00:34:44,540 --> 00:34:50,480 They'll be able to bring a higher level of resource and support, more robust student 514 00:34:50,780 --> 00:34:51,060 services. 515 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:58,100 Analyse and Kelly Booth have already been needing, talking about curriculum sharing, talking 516 00:34:58,100 --> 00:35:00,740 about planning, what this could look like. 517 00:35:01,380 --> 00:35:06,980 I mentioned we had a faculty meeting a couple of weeks ago with established a generic questions 518 00:35:06,980 --> 00:35:14,540 email so that faculty now and then families once this is fully rolled out to them 519 00:35:14,540 --> 00:35:19,940 would have a way to ask questions that maybe they don't feel for asking in 520 00:35:19,940 --> 00:35:24,780 person. We are planning on hosting parent the board is planning on hosting 521 00:35:24,780 --> 00:35:31,580 parent meetings and inviting new aims to be there so that they can answer questions. 522 00:35:31,580 --> 00:35:35,840 Every student will have a personalized education plan. 523 00:35:36,580 --> 00:35:40,400 Every student who started as a career path high student will be held to career path high 524 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:46,660 graduation requirements so they won't have to do the additionally come back in English. 525 00:35:47,020 --> 00:35:54,620 They won't have to leave, but two years of computer science or engineering and with your 526 00:35:54,620 --> 00:36:00,200 approval today we would be looking at establishing working groups to outline transition specifics. 527 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:08,100 as we kind of move forward in this partnership and essentially merger of our two schools. 528 00:36:10,300 --> 00:36:11,640 I know I've lost something else. 529 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,840 Well, you've done a brilliant job. 530 00:36:14,220 --> 00:36:20,120 I think you kind of wrapped up four years of conversations that are culminating in this moment. 531 00:36:20,420 --> 00:36:26,420 I think that I would add is just a misperception that I've come across. 532 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,080 I think it's pretty common. 533 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:32,420 and that is the new aims is sort of an elite school. 534 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,860 I would argue that their model, their academic model 535 00:36:37,860 --> 00:36:39,200 is very, very strong, 536 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,100 but having just attended their graduation 537 00:36:42,100 --> 00:36:44,640 alongside Kelli and Sam Kacenzar, 538 00:36:45,260 --> 00:36:47,860 Associate Vice President, it is a very diverse school 539 00:36:47,860 --> 00:36:50,800 and they welcome students from all walks of life, 540 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,380 including very academically challenged students, 541 00:36:53,540 --> 00:36:54,560 because they believe that their model 542 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:55,640 could bring all students along. 543 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,920 Now they may have different achievement along the way 544 00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,660 I mean, they even talk in the graduation 545 00:36:59,660 --> 00:37:03,340 about how some barely made it across the finish line, 546 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,680 why others have a long list of achievements 547 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,720 and scholarships and opportunities. 548 00:37:09,660 --> 00:37:13,020 But I wanted to simply share that that's 549 00:37:13,020 --> 00:37:14,620 been a misperception night. 550 00:37:14,820 --> 00:37:16,880 I regularly come across about new aims. 551 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,240 And their willingness to expand their footprint 552 00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:25,200 to bring us into the tent with Curipath High, 553 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,200 I think is the very best solution in my opinion. 554 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,220 And I was just wanting to emphasize one last time, 555 00:37:32,460 --> 00:37:33,680 it's not because of any, 556 00:37:33,780 --> 00:37:35,000 it's a change in the marketplace. 557 00:37:35,340 --> 00:37:36,340 And one thing we didn't say, 558 00:37:36,460 --> 00:37:38,260 besides everything that Jeff and Kelly said, 559 00:37:39,060 --> 00:37:40,680 is that we've been really effective at building out 560 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,260 our pathways with our school districts. 561 00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:48,540 And those are much less friction in those pathways 562 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,800 than there may have been when those who were here long before us 563 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,800 just ramped up this idea of having early technical college high school. 564 00:37:55,660 --> 00:37:58,520 And so new aims over time, and COVID didn't, or new aims, 565 00:37:58,660 --> 00:38:03,440 career path high, it didn't help that COVID made it even that much more difficult. 566 00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:09,360 And really sort of moved into a credit recovery high school model and no longer a technical 567 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,500 education, early technical education high school, which is a credible benefit. 568 00:38:14,020 --> 00:38:18,880 I mean, I've got a kid at Utah State University now that I never saw going to college because 569 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:19,660 of career path high. 570 00:38:19,660 --> 00:38:26,460 But that has changed, and we're doing, it's just a different world, and so this, in my 571 00:38:26,460 --> 00:38:33,380 opinion, is a brilliant solution, and I'm grateful for the willingness of new aims to 572 00:38:33,380 --> 00:38:35,240 enter into this conversation with us. 573 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,480 So no, I didn't have anything to say, Kelly. 574 00:38:43,420 --> 00:38:50,000 So we got the whole group here, your board appointees, former director, current director, 575 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:55,860 the head of the State Charter School Board, to entertain any of your questions or thoughts. 576 00:38:58,500 --> 00:39:00,860 As an authorizer, what does that mean now? 577 00:39:00,980 --> 00:39:03,480 I said a lot of work to do this, or you're honoring the NYU, 578 00:39:03,620 --> 00:39:04,920 but what does that mean as an authorizer? 579 00:39:05,580 --> 00:39:06,740 Is there a way down in books? 580 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,200 I mean, I'm sure there's a whole process. 581 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:10,400 Almost. 582 00:39:12,260 --> 00:39:13,940 The process hasn't been well defined, 583 00:39:14,420 --> 00:39:16,620 but part of what we'd like to accomplish tonight 584 00:39:16,620 --> 00:39:21,020 is pursuing an opportunity to change the authorizer as well. 585 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,360 It's, in a sense, it's uncharted territory, 586 00:39:26,380 --> 00:39:28,680 which is what, but Stacey, do you mind saying a word? 587 00:39:28,820 --> 00:39:30,520 Yeah, I think you're a partner in this now. 588 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:31,740 What you just say, yeah, it's really, 589 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,180 but I think we're looking at is a two-step process. 590 00:39:34,700 --> 00:39:37,340 One, we have in USB board role, 591 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,040 there is a clear process of changing authorizers 592 00:39:41,660 --> 00:39:43,360 and that's actually pretty simple. 593 00:39:43,780 --> 00:39:45,380 There's, you know, on the back end, 594 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,100 there's gonna be some paperwork and information 595 00:39:47,100 --> 00:39:49,300 that needs to be shared in the state charter school board 596 00:39:49,300 --> 00:39:50,500 with me to approve it. 597 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:59,600 But the change of authorizer is relatively simple and it's not very destructive to the school at all. 598 00:40:00,420 --> 00:40:05,760 In fact, if you don't know what's going on, they may not even know this at the school level, which is nice. 599 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:11,440 The second step, then, with what we're talking about with New Ames, would be what's called a transfer of operation in control. 600 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,540 And so that's a bigger process. 601 00:40:15,300 --> 00:40:22,680 And it is something that the State Charter School Board is working with USBE to create a much smoother process. 602 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,140 And so that's something that we're working on right now. 603 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,300 And it's something that may, once the authorizers change, 604 00:40:29,300 --> 00:40:34,160 may test the timeline of how, you know, when this could happen, 605 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,700 whether it could be for next the 28th school year or 29th school year, 606 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:39,440 we'll have to see. 607 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,580 but that's something that once they're under the same 608 00:40:43,580 --> 00:40:46,700 authorizer we can work together with millions on. 609 00:40:50,370 --> 00:40:52,250 I'm just like to make a comment. 610 00:40:52,930 --> 00:40:57,510 I just think that this is a well-thought-out brilliant 611 00:40:58,290 --> 00:41:03,790 solution and not just a solution but a great merger 612 00:41:04,420 --> 00:41:07,130 that will only benefit these students. 613 00:41:07,610 --> 00:41:11,350 I think it's great and I just wanted to add my accolades 614 00:41:11,350 --> 00:41:15,230 to STAC for all of the work they've done and to present for us and these guys for 615 00:41:15,830 --> 00:41:22,470 coming together on this, it's wonderful for these students and I'm excited about it. 616 00:41:23,830 --> 00:41:28,590 I'm just going to ask, does this increase the ability for increasing enrollment? 617 00:41:29,190 --> 00:41:30,030 It does, doesn't it? 618 00:41:30,330 --> 00:41:36,850 An opportunity for students, so it allows the program to be bigger, more opportunity, so it's 619 00:41:36,850 --> 00:41:37,070 great. 620 00:41:37,750 --> 00:41:43,570 And we'll see Chris how high is actually authorized for up to 500 students with the name of new names. 621 00:41:43,850 --> 00:41:48,910 I think it will definitely provide more opportunities for sure. 622 00:41:49,010 --> 00:41:53,410 And also you're expanding the options for students who have been here. 623 00:41:54,510 --> 00:41:59,830 And a little, a little extra, a little farther reach to the south part of the county too. 624 00:41:59,910 --> 00:42:03,630 Good news market research suggests on that need there too. 625 00:42:03,630 --> 00:42:06,730 And I do also, while we're acknowledging our grant, 626 00:42:07,290 --> 00:42:11,950 it's not, we remiss if I didn't acknowledge our board chair and vice chair. 627 00:42:12,050 --> 00:42:16,710 We meet every month, and this has been a topic of conversation for a long time too. 628 00:42:16,970 --> 00:42:19,730 So, they've been representing the court well and these conversations. 629 00:42:20,070 --> 00:42:21,130 Thank you to you also. 630 00:42:22,650 --> 00:42:27,450 I just make a comment having been, you know, someone in the Lou, but 631 00:42:27,450 --> 00:42:34,550 And also been involved in many pretty large organizational transitions. 632 00:42:35,050 --> 00:42:39,890 It's anxiety inducing, it's hard, you're dealing with emotions and people's lives. 633 00:42:40,630 --> 00:42:45,150 And I just commend the group that has worked to get to this point. 634 00:42:46,690 --> 00:42:52,190 It seems like to the degree possible, you've thought through all of the things as far as 635 00:42:52,190 --> 00:42:56,470 like how we transition to students, you know, give a year, let's go through a year, let's 636 00:42:56,470 --> 00:42:57,110 get people in. 637 00:42:57,110 --> 00:42:58,390 and let's merge the cultures. 638 00:42:59,170 --> 00:43:02,690 So a lot of very good forethought, 639 00:43:02,970 --> 00:43:06,950 giving there and then just wishing, you know, 640 00:43:07,250 --> 00:43:09,510 assuming we did this approval, 641 00:43:11,110 --> 00:43:14,130 just well wish it was managing through the change, 642 00:43:14,430 --> 00:43:15,710 change management is hard. 643 00:43:16,030 --> 00:43:17,610 And I know there's a lot of work to do. 644 00:43:21,690 --> 00:43:21,810 Great. 645 00:43:22,950 --> 00:43:23,270 Thank you. 646 00:43:23,410 --> 00:43:24,090 Do we need a motion? 647 00:43:25,690 --> 00:43:28,890 I would like to make a motion to recommend 648 00:43:28,890 --> 00:43:33,710 that our board excuse me oh we don't need to read that exactly like that okay 649 00:43:33,710 --> 00:43:45,130 I was it's stunning how professional we've become my mind I moved at the 650 00:43:45,130 --> 00:43:48,890 Davis Technical College Board of Trustees direct staff to pursue the transfer 651 00:43:48,890 --> 00:43:53,730 of the board's authorization of career path high to the Utah Utah State 652 00:43:53,730 --> 00:43:58,290 Charter School Board with the intent of transitioning operational control 653 00:43:58,290 --> 00:44:04,090 of career path high to the Northern Utah Academy for math, engineering, and science. 654 00:44:04,430 --> 00:44:10,410 New aims with such transition to be completed no later than June 30th, 2027. 655 00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:15,490 That timeline, sorry, I'm speaking out of order. 656 00:44:16,810 --> 00:44:18,610 So I'd like to make a motion for a second. 657 00:44:20,310 --> 00:44:22,810 Okay, thank you, Ginger, okay, Alan Favre. 658 00:44:22,890 --> 00:44:23,770 Oh, okay. 659 00:44:23,770 --> 00:44:23,970 Let's go ahead. 660 00:44:23,990 --> 00:44:24,430 Thank you Madam Chair. 661 00:44:24,610 --> 00:44:25,370 For just some discussion. 662 00:44:25,610 --> 00:44:26,130 Oh, discussion. 663 00:44:26,550 --> 00:44:27,770 If you don't mind, just a comment. 664 00:44:27,770 --> 00:44:27,890 Sure. 665 00:44:27,890 --> 00:44:34,770 about the motion to come to mind. I think it's great for the most part, a couple of things 666 00:44:34,770 --> 00:44:42,670 to keep in mind. Once the author, the transfer of authorizer is complete, Davis Technical College 667 00:44:42,670 --> 00:44:47,270 will no longer have authority over the transfer of operation and control. So you may want to 668 00:44:47,270 --> 00:44:54,250 rethink including that transition and the motion. The other thing is with some of the things 669 00:44:54,250 --> 00:44:59,930 that I'm currently working on with USVD specifically in the process of transfers of options. 670 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,220 Registration and control with charter schools. The date of June 30th, 2027, could be problematic. I would give it low to medium likelihood that we would be able to have that process complete and to meet that deadline. USBE has requested that they have at least by January 1, those transfer of operation and controls in place before the next school year. 671 00:45:29,220 --> 00:45:34,880 and so to be able to do what it takes on the State Charter School Board and the U.S.P.E. 672 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:40,260 side to create this process and possibly even needing to create board role to support 673 00:45:40,260 --> 00:45:42,380 the process, that day's problematic. 674 00:45:44,940 --> 00:45:45,420 Okay. 675 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,820 Would we like to set some motion? 676 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,880 And we haven't voted on that one. 677 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:51,880 We haven't voted, right? 678 00:45:52,340 --> 00:45:56,040 Well, I guess maybe a clarifying question, as far as like the authorizer. 679 00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:04,600 So obviously to complete this transition, it does require, like you said, kind of a two-step process. 680 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:16,680 I guess I'm, what is the, what risk if any is there to transfer the authorization 681 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:22,300 and to the ultimate authorizing, which would be the Utah State Charter School Board, right? 682 00:46:22,300 --> 00:46:28,900 I have a time is there that yeah that part's a very simple process and no problem you may want to but if I could 683 00:46:28,900 --> 00:46:32,920 Suggestion may want to consider just putting a period after new lanes 684 00:46:34,900 --> 00:46:43,140 Okay, because I see you're sitting on the time in this. Yeah, I think that's useful. I can express an intent of what you would like to see 685 00:46:43,140 --> 00:46:51,080 I think that would actually be very helpful for the state charter school board to understand your intent in transferring the author of the authorizer position 686 00:46:51,860 --> 00:46:55,640 So just leave off the last line that's what you're saying with our dates in there. 687 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,240 Do you want me to amend my motion? 688 00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:58,280 I think that'd be fine. 689 00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:03,560 I was confused by your comment, though, just to clarify, because it does say with the intent 690 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:04,480 of transition operation. 691 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,360 So I think that is within the purview of this board to express an intent. 692 00:47:07,620 --> 00:47:09,420 I think it would actually be helpful to the state first. 693 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:10,280 I thought that, okay. 694 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,440 I'm going to see which intent to. 695 00:47:13,340 --> 00:47:14,800 You can't comment on the date. 696 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:15,080 Right. 697 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:15,800 What do you do? 698 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,180 But you're definitely letting them know that that's part of your intent. 699 00:47:19,180 --> 00:47:21,440 That's part of what you're hoping to see once but. 700 00:47:21,500 --> 00:47:24,060 So does it stand as written with that phrase? 701 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,260 I could, I should probably amend it. 702 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,280 I think it would be necessary suggesting 703 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,580 that we just end the sentence after many whames. 704 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,960 We'll know with no great, just period. 705 00:47:34,460 --> 00:47:35,620 So I can amend my motion. 706 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,460 But it's our intent that with all electra be possible. 707 00:47:40,220 --> 00:47:42,040 OK, that's the right thing. 708 00:47:43,020 --> 00:47:45,700 OK, I would like to amend my motion. 709 00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:48,480 I move that the Davis Technical College Board of Trustees 710 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,060 you direct staff to pursue the transfer of the board's authorization of career path 711 00:47:52,060 --> 00:47:57,240 high to the Utah State Charter School Board with the intent of transitioning operational 712 00:47:57,240 --> 00:48:02,980 control of career path high to the northern Utah Academy for math, engineering, and science 713 00:48:03,500 --> 00:48:04,180 new aims. 714 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:06,900 Okay. 715 00:48:07,060 --> 00:48:07,900 Thank you. 716 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:09,320 We have a motion and a second. 717 00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:10,500 Appreciate that. 718 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:11,160 All in favor? 719 00:48:11,860 --> 00:48:12,020 Aye. 720 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:12,520 Aye. 721 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:13,100 Any opposed? 722 00:48:14,820 --> 00:48:15,000 Okay. 723 00:48:15,180 --> 00:48:15,660 Motion carries. 724 00:48:15,820 --> 00:48:16,140 Thank you. 725 00:48:17,940 --> 00:48:19,740 That wasn't why we gave you the award. 726 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:23,640 Why'd you stay around? 727 00:48:25,020 --> 00:48:25,700 That was helpful. 728 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:26,540 Very. 729 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:27,580 Yeah. 730 00:48:29,580 --> 00:48:31,340 Okay, a position of Bush or a brush? 731 00:48:34,220 --> 00:48:34,680 Okay. 732 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:36,580 Okay. 733 00:48:37,620 --> 00:48:37,900 Okay. 734 00:48:38,100 --> 00:48:38,980 I'll see you. 735 00:48:39,300 --> 00:48:40,300 At least thank you too. 736 00:48:42,380 --> 00:48:42,680 Yeah. 737 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:46,560 All right, Wendy. 738 00:48:49,700 --> 00:49:01,180 Okay, so I'm going to lean heavily on our Associate Vice President, Ellen Horne, who you hear from on a regular basis when he reports KPIs, but speaking of other duties as a sign, he's been busy with something else. 739 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:16,300 So, and this is big. This is the biggest thing we're going to undertake during this administration that I'm part of here at Davis Tech with your blessing. 740 00:49:19,240 --> 00:49:25,380 So, this is a conversation about student information systems, so I know you didn't sign up for that. 741 00:49:26,580 --> 00:49:28,300 It gets exciting, trust me. 742 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:34,180 So just a little bit of background and please interrupt either one of us at any point. 743 00:49:38,180 --> 00:49:44,960 Oh, just one second. Let me just check it out. Sure, we've got the rights. 744 00:49:48,770 --> 00:49:49,630 I don't think 745 00:49:49,630 --> 00:49:51,170 we are sharing. 746 00:49:57,970 --> 00:50:03,450 Yeah, but it zooms out. Just feel a little bit of a grandma meeting. 747 00:50:03,670 --> 00:50:04,050 I know. 748 00:50:09,870 --> 00:50:14,390 Well, it's, I mean, you can work on the shanglet because we'll talk to it, and this presentation 749 00:50:14,390 --> 00:50:16,850 is in, is in your packet too. 750 00:50:19,170 --> 00:50:23,010 So this describes what a student information system is, right? 751 00:50:23,830 --> 00:50:27,590 Basically what the title would suggest, it's where all of our student information is gathered, 752 00:50:28,410 --> 00:50:28,910 managed. 753 00:50:29,310 --> 00:50:30,990 It's where academic records are kept. 754 00:50:30,990 --> 00:50:38,010 That's where we handle our, well, it's where you do it, handle your enrollment registration, 755 00:50:38,630 --> 00:50:39,770 scheduling functions, right? 756 00:50:40,690 --> 00:50:47,630 It's that backbone of your academic and information systems. 757 00:50:48,250 --> 00:50:53,210 It provides a lot of administrative functions and done correctly, and these are qualifiers that 758 00:50:53,210 --> 00:50:54,170 I'm giving for a reason. 759 00:50:55,150 --> 00:51:05,490 And then it should be a portal for students and faculty and staff to not only get the information they need but also to provide a lot of self service. 760 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:13,700 We need a quality student information system because, you know what, I'm going to go off script. 761 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,560 I mean, I'm going to steal some of your thunder and then you're going to take it all for it. 762 00:51:18,540 --> 00:51:23,000 Davis Tech has a unique academic model, right? 763 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,640 It's what makes us, besides our people, 764 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,560 it's what makes us so good, 765 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,540 because students can start most of our programs 766 00:51:31,540 --> 00:51:34,480 every other week, the competency-based, 767 00:51:34,700 --> 00:51:36,860 so they move at their own pace. 768 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,020 We push them to get done soon, 769 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,200 but they'll move typically at their own pace. 770 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,600 We have a flexible schedule. 771 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,420 You know that we're not semester-based, 772 00:51:45,420 --> 00:51:48,660 And we don't count seat time around Davis Tech because we're competency-based. 773 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,660 So a student may put together a schedule that's a couple of mornings and a couple of 774 00:51:52,660 --> 00:51:53,600 afternoons in an evening. 775 00:51:53,720 --> 00:51:56,620 Whatever fits their work life balance. 776 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:03,380 Why that model is so brilliant is because it creates maximum access. 777 00:52:04,140 --> 00:52:10,500 We're 8,000 students, not because this county is growing at this rate, at that same rate. 778 00:52:10,500 --> 00:52:14,960 it's because we've just expanded our access, and that's the foundation of our access. 779 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,220 That's the brilliant part of it. 780 00:52:18,540 --> 00:52:25,340 It's stupid way to run a college, though, because there's no student information system 781 00:52:25,340 --> 00:52:26,060 that supports it. 782 00:52:26,740 --> 00:52:30,780 And so I've told some of you, we entertain guests from all over the world, and they come 783 00:52:30,780 --> 00:52:36,460 and they get all excited about our model, and they realize it's not semester-based, and their 784 00:52:36,460 --> 00:52:38,580 systems won't support it, and they leave frustrated. 785 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:48,800 how did we solve it? We built our own system. And what someone's going to talk to you about is the useful life of that system is over. 786 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:57,640 I would describe this as the biggest risk to this institution. When we sit down with the auditors every year, they say, 787 00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:58,640 They will tell us about your risk. 788 00:52:59,180 --> 00:53:01,400 Well, it's our student information system. 789 00:53:02,180 --> 00:53:04,360 And you may be looking at us as really smart people 790 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:05,880 saying, well, how'd you get in this predicament? 791 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,140 It's a tale of woe and a lot of it's outside our control. 792 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,260 But we've coiled it together as long as we can. 793 00:53:12,420 --> 00:53:14,560 Now, the reason I said I qualified these things about what 794 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:15,980 a student information system should do 795 00:53:16,460 --> 00:53:19,060 is because it doesn't do what we need it to do. 796 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,720 There are efficiencies, security issues, 797 00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:30,120 Exficiencies to be gained, security issues, our vulnerability, we can't communicate with 798 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,480 our students or student information system the way we want to. 799 00:53:33,180 --> 00:53:39,580 Owen has a team that teases data out of this all the time and it's ad hoc reporting. 800 00:53:40,980 --> 00:53:46,380 And then our students need easier access to our student information system and the way 801 00:53:46,380 --> 00:53:47,820 they interact with this college through it. 802 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:49,500 That's our predicament. 803 00:53:50,180 --> 00:53:53,600 So it's going to make it even more dreary, but he's going to give you hope by the time 804 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:53,980 we're done. 805 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:56,580 Is that why you turn it over to you? 806 00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,440 It's not a whole way to do this. 807 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,940 This meeting went off the rails a long time ago. 808 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,600 Yes, like you covered a lot of the world we're at today. 809 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,240 So I just want to dive into the little history and background of the system that we have and 810 00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:11,220 how we got there and what we have been happening to us today. 811 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:17,760 So North Star is what it's called and it started here at the end of the second 2005 because 812 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,880 As President said, there's nothing that can meet the needs for how they want to operate. 813 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:28,320 So the system actually took it over and seven of the eight technical colleges all adopted it. 814 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:29,820 Again, using it. 815 00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:31,180 It's just a machine machine. 816 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:33,160 Now it's it today. 817 00:54:33,860 --> 00:54:34,220 I'm sorry. 818 00:54:34,420 --> 00:54:36,140 I think it's got to be like a... 819 00:54:36,140 --> 00:54:36,260 Right. 820 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,580 Since we started north, I think it's probably been through four different governing bodies. 821 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,240 There's so back and forth, which is part of the problem soon we could dive into. 822 00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:53,740 But so it does it was modified adapted to support the current core space scheduling and flexible scheduling model that we do operate under now, and it's allowed us to do that. 823 00:54:54,540 --> 00:54:59,600 And because we're very unique and not visually nor the schools operate this way that I've come across. 824 00:55:00,260 --> 00:55:11,240 But over the 20 years, and so it's allowed us to operate. And then you need format. It's really fallen behind in not supporting state up today with a lot of the features that we need. 825 00:55:11,240 --> 00:55:14,840 and what the schools are expecting out in modern systems. 826 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,800 And a lot of the other institutions are also dissatisfied 827 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,320 and the schools are starting exploring different options. 828 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,360 So part of the reasons of how we got here, 829 00:55:24,780 --> 00:55:27,300 one of the biggest ones is the development team 830 00:55:27,300 --> 00:55:28,340 and self-instability. 831 00:55:29,340 --> 00:55:31,540 The one the state took it over and moved it out of the state. 832 00:55:33,620 --> 00:55:35,640 I don't know if I didn't know what to do with it at times, 833 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,780 or it's been bounced around like a hot potato. 834 00:55:37,780 --> 00:55:42,900 So it was moved from UK and the new tech and then they didn't know what to do with the 835 00:55:42,900 --> 00:55:47,180 software team and with some of their business so they moved it to UN and then that didn't 836 00:55:47,180 --> 00:55:50,900 really work out, they moved it back and then when they made combined this again with 837 00:55:50,900 --> 00:55:52,920 UCI they stuck it over with the University of Utah. 838 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,060 And every one of these years, so I've been here almost nine years. 839 00:55:57,820 --> 00:56:01,620 Every year there's this discussion that we're going to make a go and try to create a new 840 00:56:01,620 --> 00:56:05,980 system and then it doesn't happen and we have the same conversation in the next year while 841 00:56:05,980 --> 00:56:07,180 all of this is happening, right? 842 00:56:07,180 --> 00:56:11,320 So every time they move on, yeah, we lose all the team turnover because of the job 843 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:15,680 and stability and moving organizations all the time, and then these studies that Darren 844 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:19,500 was just talking about where they'd be like, well, let's put a pause on everything and 845 00:56:19,500 --> 00:56:22,540 let's look if there's a new system, and they would come back and say, no, we're going to keep 846 00:56:22,540 --> 00:56:24,380 it, and that just keeps the blame things. 847 00:56:24,620 --> 00:56:30,060 And so over time, it's just falling further and further behind, enhancements, get further 848 00:56:30,060 --> 00:56:34,820 and further behind, and they're always behind schedule and not driving a sorbling into 849 00:56:34,820 --> 00:56:35,100 D. 850 00:56:35,100 --> 00:56:48,740 So the impact on that and how that's affecting this is just massive inefficiencies, everything's manual, it does not have API's or abilities for us to automate and move data in and out of the systems like we should be able to do. 851 00:56:49,240 --> 00:57:04,280 So it requires a lot more manual work and employees to do data and it's like they're just duplicating data into the same thing in the multiple systems instead of having it in only one time which also increases our error rate and data quality. 852 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:10,680 So thousands of years, hours of year wasted, with that just a process alone, and there 853 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:15,300 are also spending a lot of money on other systems and trying to patchwork and make things 854 00:57:15,300 --> 00:57:21,100 work to try to catch up and make up for the deficiencies, and that this leads a really 855 00:57:21,100 --> 00:57:22,100 poor user experience. 856 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:28,820 For both our internal and external, all our faculty staff internally, it's really hard 857 00:57:28,820 --> 00:57:29,380 to work with. 858 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:33,060 And then for the students, they're really having to come to student services all the time 859 00:57:33,060 --> 00:57:34,560 for things that they should be able to self serve 860 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,820 in a well functioning student portal. 861 00:57:38,420 --> 00:57:41,120 Also, a lot of it doesn't have any support right now 862 00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:45,100 for plans that I've seen to support any kind of 863 00:57:46,100 --> 00:57:48,900 migration of the new government privacy 864 00:57:48,900 --> 00:57:50,640 and data governance laws that have been passed 865 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:51,600 in the last sessions. 866 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,940 It doesn't support data retention, 867 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,600 deletion policies, anything like that. 868 00:57:58,140 --> 00:58:01,240 There's no AI initiatives or tools being brought 869 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:06,560 into it, currently, it's just easy, they are working on it's way behind schedule. 870 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:12,820 So as a school in the last couple of years, we've really tried to work with the system and 871 00:58:12,820 --> 00:58:17,320 with UG to try to drive and make sure that everybody's aware of the problems. 872 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:22,240 So we offered a white paper kind of highlighting some of the risks and different things that 873 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:23,260 we thought the system needed. 874 00:58:23,500 --> 00:58:27,840 We've worked with all the other schools to come up with, you know, a system level approach 875 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:31,680 to what's needed, what kind of features we wanted to see. 876 00:58:32,660 --> 00:58:35,640 Those didn't really go anywhere, unfortunately. 877 00:58:37,220 --> 00:58:39,980 And so with all the institutions starting to branch out 878 00:58:39,980 --> 00:58:41,580 and starting to explore their own options, 879 00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,980 the commissioner convened a cross-college working group 880 00:58:44,980 --> 00:58:46,300 where we all got together, represented 881 00:58:46,300 --> 00:58:47,480 this from all the tech colleges. 882 00:58:48,900 --> 00:58:51,580 And we all, even though we all use North Star, 883 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,960 we still operate differently. 884 00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,160 So we wanted to come up and say, is there a way 885 00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:02,060 that we can all agree on a crime instead of the future's requirements that we can all agree on, 886 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:08,260 which we were able to do. And then we took that and did a lot of research on some preliminary research 887 00:59:08,260 --> 00:59:12,680 and the vendors to see if there actually assist them out there that could meet our needs 888 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:17,760 and what we're looking for now and into the future. And so after doing that, we came out with 889 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:22,360 and there are some viable alternatives available, and so that's kind of where we are today. 890 00:59:23,700 --> 00:59:28,720 So Owen used we and all those sentences and it was Owen. 891 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:35,800 So we feel the greatest risk and the greatest pain being the largest school and we just 892 00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,620 sit there and salivate over the efficiencies we know we could gain. 893 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,860 So I've worked with all the other tech college presidents at the request of the commissioner 894 00:59:42,860 --> 00:59:46,720 there in at least two or three convenings. 895 00:59:47,900 --> 00:59:52,320 Olin has led the charge with a colleague from Dixie Tech 896 00:59:52,740 --> 00:59:54,740 to gather all the user requirements. 897 00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:56,940 We've got all that. 898 00:59:56,940 --> 00:59:57,840 Yeah. 899 00:59:57,860 --> 00:59:58,780 Yeah. 900 01:00:00,340 --> 01:00:29,100 Two weeks ago, we, I and the other Tech College Presidents met with Commissioner Landward, and he blessed us being the pilot to move forward, to build, to that and ideally build a system, adopt a system for our technical colleges. We, as Owen suggested, it was getting out a little unrest. Mountland had a collapse of their system on a variant. 901 01:00:30,020 --> 01:00:33,820 unfortunate day during a big enrollment day for them and so they've made up their 902 01:00:33,820 --> 01:00:36,860 mind they're going to pursue something even if they had to adapt their model to 903 01:00:36,860 --> 01:00:40,280 make something fit because I mean at the end of the day nobody wants a legacy 904 01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:45,120 proprietary system anymore we need something off the shelf it's yeah raw yeah 905 01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:54,440 welcome to your world right yeah God is at the table so because Owen has done 906 01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:58,480 most of this due diligence across two years he has the commissioner's 907 01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,840 confidence to help lead this charge. 908 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:07,680 And so here's what we know, we, there are products. 909 01:01:07,820 --> 01:01:12,700 If we had, honestly, if we had this conversation three or four years ago, there weren't products 910 01:01:12,700 --> 01:01:13,260 that would have come. 911 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:17,460 We would have had to have adopted a product that the university was using as a semester 912 01:01:17,460 --> 01:01:19,220 base and completely changed our model. 913 01:01:20,460 --> 01:01:24,740 But there has been an evolution in the space and there's competition in the marketplace 914 01:01:24,740 --> 01:01:28,920 place and there are some really great options and we've been bedding a couple. Alongside 915 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:33,880 Ogden we've got tech actually at the same time and we think that we will probably pursue 916 01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:40,280 a pilot together with your blessing. Now it's all good news from here, remember I promise. 917 01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,780 So I believe that one of our sister institutions, when they went out looking for a solution 918 01:01:47,780 --> 01:01:52,160 last year, it came back in the millions of dollars and it was a deal-cure one for them. 919 01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:58,260 Owens due diligence has shown us that our implementation cost would be approximately 920 01:01:58,260 --> 01:02:03,060 $400,000, which is not a scary number to this institution as you know. 921 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:07,860 Jeff and I met with the commissioner's office last week. 922 01:02:10,140 --> 01:02:21,220 Oh, and by the way, just I am, as your person at the college, I am bought in to Commissioner 923 01:02:21,220 --> 01:02:22,900 landlord's vision for regional integration. 924 01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:27,380 I think if you ask commissioner, he would say that his vision for regional integration 925 01:02:27,380 --> 01:02:31,540 is inspired by our relationship with Weber State University and what we've done. 926 01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:38,560 So I have the hill, I have told my colleagues around the state that I'm going to die on 927 01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:38,780 this. 928 01:02:38,900 --> 01:02:40,080 This has to be a shared service. 929 01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:44,300 It has to be something that we all do because if we all go off in eight different directions, 930 01:02:44,300 --> 01:02:45,580 what are we accomplished, right? 931 01:02:46,020 --> 01:02:50,360 And then if we think we're going to go ask the legislature for money, an implementation 932 01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:57,460 We're all going in different directions. I just trust you Wilson. I don't think that would go well. So this is a shared service approach 933 01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,340 That's that's my that's my vision. I believe that's the commissioner's which 934 01:03:03,460 --> 01:03:05,200 He blessed this last we can say 935 01:03:05,900 --> 01:03:12,040 Go do it and Jeff and I went with met with the CFO Nate tally and he said you know what we've got some shared services money 936 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:19,740 You're gonna be our implementer. I think we can cover part of all of that in money that we have on hand. So that that was exciting, right? 937 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:26,280 ongoing, we estimate it to be less than $100,000 a year, which is a savings. 938 01:03:27,020 --> 01:03:29,420 Yeah. Exactly. From what you're telling. 939 01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,080 Yeah. Yeah. 940 01:03:33,180 --> 01:03:37,240 Yeah. Now, I've been part of a couple of big system implementations and it's 941 01:03:38,300 --> 01:03:41,760 but we're pretty confident because this is, we've seen it go other place. 942 01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:46,300 Plus, here's the really, I think, the cool thing for our system is we lead out 943 01:03:46,860 --> 01:03:57,000 We're the hardest not to crack. By the time we get implemented, it's going to be so much easier for the other institutions, and then we've created the scale for them with the savings even escalates, right? 944 01:03:58,980 --> 01:04:05,460 So that's, I get excited about a shared service for all eight institutions that we can lead out on. 945 01:04:07,060 --> 01:04:16,340 And anyway, so time, here's it's going to take a lot of work by our subject matter experts here at Davis Tech. 946 01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:24,080 We've identified the groups, we've identified the people in the user groups, they've already meeting, they're fine-tuning the user requirements. 947 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:34,380 We have invited all eight technical colleges to participate in this process so that it's informed to make it that much easier for them. 948 01:04:34,380 --> 01:04:41,020 the time comes. Obviously, I think you know the benefits, but this supports our model 949 01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:48,100 as a sustainable system because it is third-party product. 950 01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,600 Not only the efficiencies Mr. Vice-Chair 951 01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:56,940 of what we paid in North Star, how much we paid in North Star the year? About $80,000. 952 01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,580 About $80,000 a year, but then how many other systems do we have? 953 01:05:00,580 --> 01:05:05,820 And over 100,000 more in other systems that possibly could be replaced with this one. 954 01:05:06,340 --> 01:05:07,440 Those are the hard costs. 955 01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:11,780 But then the thing that drives me nuts more than anything around here, I told you, 956 01:05:11,860 --> 01:05:16,340 toward this is the human mediation that we want to eliminate. 957 01:05:16,700 --> 01:05:20,880 So our employees can add their greatest value with the students. 958 01:05:21,100 --> 01:05:27,320 And it's just amazing how much, how cumbersome it is, how much time they spend. 959 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:29,240 So there's that savings. 960 01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:33,400 And then I made a point about piloting a shared service for all technical college. 961 01:05:33,580 --> 01:05:40,080 The risks, the risk I see, I think we all see, the biggest risk is not to do anything because 962 01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:40,980 we'll be dead in the water. 963 01:05:41,820 --> 01:05:47,120 Only didn't say this, but the one person with all of the knowledge about North Star immigrated 964 01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:48,560 to Germany a couple of years ago. 965 01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:53,540 And by the way, nothing gets done when he takes his five-week vacation, like North Star. 966 01:05:56,320 --> 01:06:00,200 The other risk of course is that we fail to implement this properly and if that happens 967 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:06,420 you let me go, I mean that's, I mean that'll be some satisfaction. 968 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:07,660 I don't. 969 01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:14,480 There's a counterproducer on the thank you, but we don't have a choice, we got to do it. 970 01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:19,980 Are your other campus presidents on board with this model? 971 01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:27,980 Yes, in terms of a student information system for all of us, or like the 972 01:06:27,980 --> 01:06:33,840 whores. Yes, Ogdenweaver for sure, the one I don't know is mountain land, 973 01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:37,420 because they were pursuing other options. But the commissioner told them to go 974 01:06:37,420 --> 01:06:43,360 back and re-evaluate based on what we've and based on the bedding that we've 975 01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:47,760 done. The smaller schools are taking a wait and see approach. Southwest Tech has 976 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:49,460 said, we want to follow Davis Tech. 977 01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,080 I believe that Dixie will, too. 978 01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:54,540 They've expressed, oh, actually, Dixie has said they want 979 01:06:54,540 --> 01:06:55,960 to go in this direction with us. 980 01:06:56,620 --> 01:06:57,940 I believe Twill and Tech will, too. 981 01:06:58,700 --> 01:07:02,180 The one that surprised me the most was Bridge of Land. 982 01:07:02,380 --> 01:07:02,960 Bridge of Land is not. 983 01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:04,260 They're the one that's not on the system. 984 01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,480 They're on a customized version of an office shelf 985 01:07:08,020 --> 01:07:09,280 software called Janssenbar. 986 01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,140 President Campbell just announces retirement this month. 987 01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:14,960 And President Campbell said in the meeting, 988 01:07:15,500 --> 01:07:17,440 if you go with the vendor that we think 989 01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:23,060 you're going to go with, we want to be part of it too. So yeah, I think so. And yeah. 990 01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:28,300 And the commission's made it clear that they're, he's not going to support more than one 991 01:07:28,300 --> 01:07:32,120 direction. So is that, is that the answer? 992 01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:36,260 Yeah, that's great. And interestingly enough, I was here at the school when I put this 993 01:07:36,260 --> 01:07:38,160 or start, it was not a pretty time. 994 01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:40,540 Yep, keep your mind down. 995 01:07:42,260 --> 01:07:43,320 We remember me. 996 01:07:44,300 --> 01:07:45,020 The start of it. 997 01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:45,480 Yes. 998 01:07:46,340 --> 01:07:50,160 So we've talked about three or four really big things to accomplish the next 24 months 999 01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:50,660 around here. 1000 01:07:51,180 --> 01:07:52,920 Number one was the last conversation. 1001 01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:54,120 Number two is this one. 1002 01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,100 And that's not actually an order of risk or importance, I don't think. 1003 01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:58,860 This is the most important. 1004 01:07:59,700 --> 01:08:04,940 I can't tell you what that timeline says, but you're the box. 1005 01:08:04,940 --> 01:08:11,680 Yeah, so we've done you I'm just assuming that it talks about user requirements and original scope and so far 1006 01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:17,780 We're ready to issue an RFP July one. That's what it comes down to 1007 01:08:17,780 --> 01:08:20,520 Yeah, but we don't want to get ahead of our skis and we want to talk with you 1008 01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:24,700 Now why are we talking about this before you have the second reading and adoption of a budget for next year? 1009 01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:29,260 Because we need to put this in the budget, right? So that's why we're talking about it beforehand 1010 01:08:29,260 --> 01:08:35,460 Yeah, the other piece of this and we're going to flash emotion up here in a minute to see. 1011 01:08:35,580 --> 01:08:41,960 We're supposed to see the fancy, but I thought we had that big good with Stacy, so I don't know. 1012 01:08:42,580 --> 01:08:44,220 Watch, watch this next one really carefully. 1013 01:08:48,290 --> 01:08:52,430 This is going to be the biggest lift in the history, maybe not the history of the college. 1014 01:08:53,190 --> 01:08:56,310 It is the biggest lift because even when you turn North Star on, how many students do we 1015 01:08:56,310 --> 01:08:56,630 have then? 1016 01:08:56,850 --> 01:08:57,050 Ginger? 1017 01:08:57,310 --> 01:08:57,710 I don't know. 1018 01:08:57,710 --> 01:09:00,730 Gosh, Jeff probably likes my 500 or three jobs in the media. 1019 01:09:01,330 --> 01:09:07,630 Yeah, and this is 8,000 students, and so we need to reorganize to support this. 1020 01:09:09,030 --> 01:09:13,450 So we need to put all of our assets toward it, and so when you see the motion, I'm going 1021 01:09:13,450 --> 01:09:15,590 to ask you to, 1022 01:09:18,010 --> 01:09:22,890 we had, this is so funny, talk about this with you at the table, Trustee 1023 01:09:22,890 --> 01:09:23,270 Chin. 1024 01:09:23,970 --> 01:09:27,730 I'm here because Trustee Chin was a vice president here, and she got a bigger and better 1025 01:09:27,730 --> 01:09:31,510 job and I got to have a role job and I think at the time we had four or five vice presidents. 1026 01:09:31,790 --> 01:09:34,270 We have created more efficiencies than you just see too. 1027 01:09:35,090 --> 01:09:39,870 I'm proposing to you that we need a sufficient grant of authority to a third vice president 1028 01:09:39,870 --> 01:09:44,830 to lead all of IT and our data team, which is a new development around here, which we just 1029 01:09:44,830 --> 01:09:50,610 held a couple of years ago, pulled all together and to lead this charge, which will obviously 1030 01:09:50,610 --> 01:09:55,170 oversee the contract and all of the resources needed to make this happen. 1031 01:09:55,170 --> 01:10:02,270 And we have really worked on this as an executive team to develop a model that will ensure 1032 01:10:02,270 --> 01:10:05,430 our success because we really want this up in less than 24 months. 1033 01:10:07,210 --> 01:10:11,430 So that will also, I mean, I would also ask you to consider that as part of the motion. 1034 01:10:11,570 --> 01:10:13,150 That's what we bring before you today. 1035 01:10:15,330 --> 01:10:16,930 Oh, and there it is. 1036 01:10:16,930 --> 01:10:17,710 Look at that. 1037 01:10:18,590 --> 01:10:19,510 So yeah. 1038 01:10:19,890 --> 01:10:20,770 Kind of a couple questions. 1039 01:10:21,350 --> 01:10:21,530 Of course. 1040 01:10:25,890 --> 01:10:33,770 from a budgetary impact standpoint. I heard 400,000 and I heard 100 ongoing. Do you think 1041 01:10:33,770 --> 01:10:41,130 the cost of design and implementation is 400,000 or a little bit more? 1042 01:10:41,130 --> 01:10:46,670 We do. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. And that's based on other schools' experience, too. 1043 01:10:46,670 --> 01:10:48,690 You say out of school, it lives back then? 1044 01:10:49,030 --> 01:10:51,930 The school's other places around the country that have used. 1045 01:10:52,310 --> 01:10:58,570 We've got a short list of vendors that we would hope will respond to this. 1046 01:10:59,550 --> 01:11:06,290 And in fact, well, in fact, we just had a deep demo again yesterday with one of the vendors. 1047 01:11:06,490 --> 01:11:08,530 So we're confident in that number. 1048 01:11:09,070 --> 01:11:12,610 In the 400,000 surveys, it might be more weeks than we expected it to ask. 1049 01:11:12,610 --> 01:11:13,410 use that, how's that? 1050 01:11:13,650 --> 01:11:20,450 Facultance is that the vendor that's coming in and implementing the software, when 1051 01:11:20,450 --> 01:11:21,330 is that going to be expected? 1052 01:11:21,330 --> 01:11:28,370 That would be it for the vendor itself and the implementation, custom design or custom 1053 01:11:28,370 --> 01:11:32,670 design of the portals and process, anything we need that's not off the shelf part of it. 1054 01:11:34,030 --> 01:11:38,850 And then the ongoing cost is also taking the count, all the systems that would be replacing, 1055 01:11:38,850 --> 01:11:43,830 soon. So we would have some overlap initially until we could build an ongoing, 1056 01:11:44,350 --> 01:11:48,350 there would be under 100,000 more than we're paying out for those other systems for that ongoing. 1057 01:11:50,010 --> 01:11:51,210 After they were fully replaced. 1058 01:11:53,450 --> 01:11:57,710 I am completely out of whack in terms of numbers, I guess. 1059 01:11:57,990 --> 01:12:03,450 But it just seems so inexpensive given the risk and concern you have. 1060 01:12:04,150 --> 01:12:12,450 My only general comment is that I've seen a lot of technology implementation in business 1061 01:12:12,450 --> 01:12:19,710 and in government go really badly, because people try to do it cheaply, and it ends up 1062 01:12:19,710 --> 01:12:21,810 costing everybody a lot more and a lot more. 1063 01:12:22,050 --> 01:12:30,110 So that's just my only general comment that I'd rather spend more and cry once than do it 1064 01:12:30,110 --> 01:12:32,030 over again and cry twice. 1065 01:12:32,290 --> 01:12:32,950 Like that. 1066 01:12:32,950 --> 01:12:39,530 And I would like you then to come to the technology stack for the Olympics, because it's more than 400 million dollars. 1067 01:12:40,870 --> 01:12:45,670 So I'll have a date when I click to go to work there, as they spend 300 and that band of things. 1068 01:12:46,510 --> 01:12:48,510 You can go very seriously. 1069 01:12:49,110 --> 01:12:49,650 Could you do so? 1070 01:12:50,190 --> 01:12:51,670 He's not available for two more years. 1071 01:12:53,970 --> 01:13:01,250 Could you describe to the board why it's not more? 1072 01:13:03,030 --> 01:13:09,030 I think a lot of the systems and universities and a lot of education, there's so much more 1073 01:13:09,030 --> 01:13:15,970 to parts of these huge, there's a couple vendors like Workday, and they're usually going 1074 01:13:15,970 --> 01:13:18,690 to talk to us or respond to us on the scale that we're at. 1075 01:13:18,910 --> 01:13:23,890 So we have a lot smaller companies that are kind of niche that will actually do this. 1076 01:13:24,130 --> 01:13:27,550 And so the quotes we're getting are, this is all that. 1077 01:13:27,550 --> 01:13:30,490 I mean, we gave ourselves room based on the quotes they were giving us. 1078 01:13:30,510 --> 01:13:34,190 We get a lot of people get details and they could come back and they were lying to us. 1079 01:13:36,610 --> 01:13:44,310 They're just able to do it and bring them on to a school of our size and scale at the price that... 1080 01:13:44,310 --> 01:13:46,370 You know, I think borrow some of these other systems. 1081 01:13:46,670 --> 01:13:49,430 Like Salesforce will do everything custom and cost a fortune, right? 1082 01:13:49,570 --> 01:13:52,950 But these guys would go mostly off the shelf and then just customize a few things. 1083 01:13:53,830 --> 01:13:54,590 I don't work for them. 1084 01:13:54,590 --> 01:14:00,690 I think I should have pointed out to this is not an enterprise solution that will do finance or any of our 1085 01:14:00,690 --> 01:14:07,170 But it communicates and the one that we're looking at by the way, this is the bid that Ogden Weaver got for 1086 01:14:07,770 --> 01:14:09,750 You know, we haven't entered into it. We haven't 1087 01:14:11,570 --> 01:14:18,770 placed in our Fiat on the street yet. So in our betting of vendors and we're thinking the same way Ogden Weaver is about 1088 01:14:18,770 --> 01:14:21,710 a vendor that we would expect to respond 1089 01:14:21,710 --> 01:14:33,490 on microsoft-based, co-pilot-integrated, and integrates with the finance packages and 1090 01:14:33,490 --> 01:14:34,950 the other software that we do. 1091 01:14:35,110 --> 01:14:35,430 It is an enterprise. 1092 01:14:36,150 --> 01:14:40,210 Yeah, if not, it is an enterprise platform in and of itself, but being microsoft-based. 1093 01:14:40,890 --> 01:14:41,950 Yeah, microsoft dynamics. 1094 01:14:42,370 --> 01:14:45,530 So, I think that's probably a big reason, too. 1095 01:14:46,290 --> 01:14:49,070 If we were looking at workday, that's suit to nuts, right? 1096 01:14:49,070 --> 01:14:57,730 That's they want to do everything and frankly that's who the system is 1097 01:14:57,730 --> 01:14:59,870 for the universe. 1098 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,940 City's is a replacement to matter. Yeah. In the notes, we put that you she may provide. But if they don't, you're just on this entirely, but you have an opportunity to recoup some costs. Okay. I got it. Yeah. Got it. That was we didn't go seeking that. We figured we'd have to sell fun. Or, or, you know, I think the commission was willing to make 1099 01:15:29,940 --> 01:15:33,720 make an appropriation request along with the Sheriff Service solution for everybody. 1100 01:15:36,650 --> 01:15:39,390 So this, yeah, that's why it's a May. 1101 01:15:40,070 --> 01:15:45,670 But the commissioner can't obligate a legislature, so he can go in and think to give us some money. 1102 01:15:46,050 --> 01:15:48,290 Yeah, but you know, it's a roll over the dice. 1103 01:15:49,090 --> 01:15:52,050 And the $400,000 implementation is over two years. 1104 01:15:52,450 --> 01:15:52,730 Correct. 1105 01:15:53,630 --> 01:15:57,410 We'll put a full thing in this budget and we don't spend a roll over the dice. 1106 01:15:57,790 --> 01:15:57,990 Yeah. 1107 01:15:59,230 --> 01:16:01,930 Oh, and we'll have to keep paying North Star. 1108 01:16:02,150 --> 01:16:05,850 We have a two-year notice requirement. 1109 01:16:06,350 --> 01:16:07,390 Yeah, but we need to do that, 1110 01:16:07,470 --> 01:16:09,090 because we need to fund it for the other schools 1111 01:16:09,090 --> 01:16:10,670 until they come online, too. 1112 01:16:10,950 --> 01:16:16,090 So I will commit to this board that if that number gets out 1113 01:16:16,090 --> 01:16:20,790 from under us during our request for proposal process 1114 01:16:20,790 --> 01:16:22,350 or even early implementation, 1115 01:16:22,350 --> 01:16:23,650 we will come back to this board. 1116 01:16:37,770 --> 01:16:42,930 I move that the Davis Technical College Board of Trustees direct staff to pursue the 1117 01:16:42,930 --> 01:16:48,470 replacement of the North Star Student Information System, including budgeting 400,000 for 1118 01:16:48,470 --> 01:16:54,990 implementation, and authorize the president to reorganize operations as necessary to support 1119 01:16:54,990 --> 01:16:56,050 implementation. 1120 01:16:59,250 --> 01:17:07,210 Okay. Thank you. All in favor. Aye. Any opposed? Okay. Thank you. Thank you. 1121 01:17:15,580 --> 01:17:16,540 $400,000. 1122 01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:24,000 Well, that was the best part of me. 1123 01:17:24,220 --> 01:17:25,700 The most best part of me. 1124 01:17:26,100 --> 01:17:31,960 There really hasn't been a lot of substantive changes to the budget from when we presented it in our last board meeting. 1125 01:17:32,540 --> 01:17:36,860 The main has already been discussed fully with a $400,000. 1126 01:17:37,700 --> 01:17:43,700 There's been a little bit of movement of dollars between different categories as we 1127 01:17:44,440 --> 01:17:53,060 pulled up a package that was approved last time and you'll notice we crossed the $50 1128 01:17:53,060 --> 01:17:59,300 million mark that's elected for the school and then on page 153 you'll load it. 1129 01:17:59,300 --> 01:18:01,180 The numbers who have been on the board of the University 1130 01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:03,320 indicate that we've added a few requests 1131 01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:08,200 on our friends with the Internal Office for now. 1132 01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:10,220 Now, Timothy Hsie. 1133 01:18:10,900 --> 01:18:13,080 They asked us to produce more visibility 1134 01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:17,560 into our campus discretionary card, 1135 01:18:18,060 --> 01:18:20,440 which is the interest and public school receives, 1136 01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:24,580 and also, more visibility into President 1137 01:18:24,580 --> 01:18:27,260 Russia's office budget. 1138 01:18:27,260 --> 01:18:34,200 And so we've added that on page 153, both of these budgets are included in what we've 1139 01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:39,400 always produced as our overall college budget, but this gives you greater visibility going 1140 01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:43,480 forward as to how much is being spent in those specific categories. 1141 01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:49,580 And so you'll notice there's not a lot of activity there because there typically isn't, but 1142 01:18:49,580 --> 01:18:51,520 that's more for your information. 1143 01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:56,300 And as always, if you ever have attention on the finance and the school, you can see a story in the news. 1144 01:18:57,480 --> 01:18:58,740 Feel free to reach out to me. 1145 01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:01,600 We're very transparent on everything we do with our budgeting. 1146 01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:06,000 And so if you ever have any concerns on how our school does things, please reach out to me. 1147 01:19:06,740 --> 01:19:08,720 We're happy to entertain those questions. 1148 01:19:09,480 --> 01:19:14,380 But since there's not a lot of changes, since the first job in the head, we've been very busy. 1149 01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:15,680 Does anyone have any questions? 1150 01:19:17,620 --> 01:19:18,060 I 1151 01:19:20,970 --> 01:19:24,090 see the 11.8 increase in health. 1152 01:19:24,090 --> 01:19:27,050 and 4.9 in dental that makes my heart hurt. 1153 01:19:28,710 --> 01:19:30,410 I think all of everyone shares that pain. 1154 01:19:30,670 --> 01:19:34,470 Yeah, what can you do about that? 1155 01:19:34,490 --> 01:19:35,110 I will try. 1156 01:19:36,410 --> 01:19:36,870 I will try. 1157 01:19:41,210 --> 01:19:42,570 Yeah, that is. 1158 01:19:43,990 --> 01:19:49,050 Fortunately, our health insurance is with PEHP. 1159 01:19:49,810 --> 01:19:53,050 And so we receive the same benefits as the state employees. 1160 01:19:53,050 --> 01:20:00,090 and the state does dictate to PHB some of what they can pass the pass long does. 1161 01:20:00,670 --> 01:20:02,330 And some years are more aggressive than ours. 1162 01:20:03,650 --> 01:20:05,090 You know Jeff, that reminds me. 1163 01:20:05,430 --> 01:20:11,790 So speaking of shared services, the state board of higher education is gone through a process 1164 01:20:11,790 --> 01:20:19,730 of trying to evaluate if there is an economy of scale in the shared buying power of all the institutions in that space. 1165 01:20:19,730 --> 01:20:25,490 sure it's politically fraught because you know we've got lots of providers who and you've got 1166 01:20:25,490 --> 01:20:32,530 even the university as a health system of course right so they are looking at engaging with a 1167 01:20:32,530 --> 01:20:39,950 broker to see if there's some vine power ability there and I think the commissioner said the other 1168 01:20:39,950 --> 01:20:45,950 day he said you know even if we were able to come up with a prescription benefit across the entire 1169 01:20:45,950 --> 01:20:50,870 system. It would be a significant statement. So this is a conversation going on 1170 01:20:50,870 --> 01:20:55,130 as a system way above my favorite. I think that's a good strategy. 1171 01:21:04,090 --> 01:21:04,370 Okay. 1172 01:21:07,220 --> 01:21:07,720 That's it 1173 01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:12,500 on the budget. Okay. All right. We seem to like to make a motion to approve the 1174 01:21:12,500 --> 01:21:21,820 fiscal year 2027 budget. Thank you. Okay. We have a motion in a second. 1175 01:21:26,490 --> 01:21:26,930 I'll 1176 01:21:26,930 --> 01:21:27,950 Yeah, President Brush. 1177 01:21:28,430 --> 01:21:31,130 Yeah, just the words no one wanted to hear. 1178 01:21:31,250 --> 01:21:32,410 You've heard enough from me already. 1179 01:21:33,090 --> 01:21:34,190 Just a couple of things. 1180 01:21:34,290 --> 01:21:39,030 I do want to thank Jeff and Kelly and our entire team. 1181 01:21:40,170 --> 01:21:42,150 These are some really heavy lifts coming out 1182 01:21:42,150 --> 01:21:43,250 for this institution. 1183 01:21:44,050 --> 01:21:46,670 And Owen did mention it, but I think there's 1184 01:21:46,670 --> 01:21:49,230 a general enthusiasm around these subject matter groups 1185 01:21:49,230 --> 01:21:55,390 because they see with a new student information system 1186 01:21:55,390 --> 01:22:00,190 They see some relief and it's a lot of work but they're up for the challenge and where 1187 01:22:00,190 --> 01:22:03,810 it's busy as we've ever been because we are a big school. 1188 01:22:04,670 --> 01:22:05,910 So and thank you to you. 1189 01:22:06,030 --> 01:22:06,830 Thank you for your support. 1190 01:22:06,950 --> 01:22:07,530 It means everything. 1191 01:22:07,710 --> 01:22:09,970 You're smart people and I always learn from you. 1192 01:22:10,610 --> 01:22:16,590 Jeff talked about it almost sounded like the changes to the transparency of my spending. 1193 01:22:17,930 --> 01:22:20,470 Maybe I'm just a sense there's something unique to me. 1194 01:22:20,610 --> 01:22:20,910 It's not. 1195 01:22:21,110 --> 01:22:21,790 It's all presidents. 1196 01:22:22,530 --> 01:22:26,350 You do not have me to thank for that new direction. 1197 01:22:26,950 --> 01:22:27,170 That's right. 1198 01:22:27,550 --> 01:22:29,810 But I have to assure you of my compliance. 1199 01:22:31,290 --> 01:22:36,790 Yeah, I assure you of my continued vigilance. 1200 01:22:38,290 --> 01:22:43,430 Jeff also talked about, he welcomes any calls, any questions. 1201 01:22:44,270 --> 01:22:46,570 I am so pleased with the financial transparency 1202 01:22:46,570 --> 01:22:47,770 of this institution. 1203 01:22:49,610 --> 01:22:56,170 So much so that you'll see in under my report that our fiscal team, Jeff, our controller 1204 01:22:56,170 --> 01:23:03,950 ad and the entire fiscal team, earned for the eighth consecutive year, the GFOA certificate 1205 01:23:03,950 --> 01:23:06,710 of excellence and getting the name wrong. 1206 01:23:06,750 --> 01:23:07,170 Oh, no. 1207 01:23:07,390 --> 01:23:09,430 Achievement for excellence and financial reporting. 1208 01:23:10,450 --> 01:23:16,050 That is due to the highest degree of transparency and accuracy. 1209 01:23:16,050 --> 01:23:20,610 We're the only institution of higher education in the state of Utah that has earned that and we've 1210 01:23:20,610 --> 01:23:23,870 earned it eight years in a row so it's fun to share that. 1211 01:23:29,090 --> 01:23:32,050 And seventh, so they told me I can't say this. 1212 01:23:32,810 --> 01:23:37,230 So I'm not going to say that we have also a reminder that we had 17 years of clean state 1213 01:23:37,230 --> 01:23:38,370 financial audits, right? 1214 01:23:38,750 --> 01:23:38,890 Yes. 1215 01:23:39,250 --> 01:23:47,210 Especially since the auditor's office has shared with us that they're determined to find areas 1216 01:23:47,210 --> 01:23:50,350 is where we can improve into the system with that technical system. 1217 01:23:50,950 --> 01:23:57,130 So, Jeff, Jeff was cringes that please don't say that because you're jinxing it and this may be the year. 1218 01:23:57,390 --> 01:24:00,730 But we're going to continue to celebrate 17 years of clean financial audits. 1219 01:24:01,110 --> 01:24:04,250 I've been part of three large public agencies. 1220 01:24:04,990 --> 01:24:06,950 None of them had a track or anything else to this. 1221 01:24:08,710 --> 01:24:10,270 So, congratulations on that. 1222 01:24:10,490 --> 01:24:13,810 Just two other quick things for our school district partners. 1223 01:24:14,070 --> 01:24:15,890 We all felt the canvas. 1224 01:24:16,870 --> 01:24:24,670 pain for those of you who don't know, we were down for the better part of a day with 1225 01:24:24,670 --> 01:24:30,610 a breach to, a sturdy breach to, in structure is the company canvass is the product that's 1226 01:24:30,610 --> 01:24:35,150 the learning management system we use, your kids are probably used later. Family members 1227 01:24:35,150 --> 01:24:42,090 you may have used it, 9,000 schools use it in the United States. It's a long story but 1228 01:24:44,510 --> 01:24:49,490 We, there's limited personal information that our students have in Canvas. 1229 01:24:50,610 --> 01:24:58,690 We don't know yet how, you know, how that may be affected. 1230 01:24:59,450 --> 01:25:03,330 The good news is that we got it, they got it back up and running so we didn't lose more 1231 01:25:03,330 --> 01:25:07,010 than part of it, large part of the day, ultimately I guess, right? 1232 01:25:08,590 --> 01:25:10,510 So there'll be a debrief on that. 1233 01:25:10,710 --> 01:25:15,610 We're talking, I mean, it made us cause this to realize how helpless we are. 1234 01:25:16,870 --> 01:25:18,370 Yeah, you're not in your head, Bridget. 1235 01:25:18,690 --> 01:25:21,610 Yeah, I mean, you've got 70-something thousand students, right? 1236 01:25:24,330 --> 01:25:29,110 And we've talked about, okay, how do we handle this in the future, right? 1237 01:25:29,390 --> 01:25:30,430 Even though it's outside of control. 1238 01:25:30,590 --> 01:25:34,070 So we're having those conversations and figuring out what that means. 1239 01:25:34,070 --> 01:25:35,810 God forbid it happened again. 1240 01:25:36,830 --> 01:25:43,050 Anyway, the only thing I wanted to say, and I don't know if Trustee Wilson wants to add 1241 01:25:43,050 --> 01:25:50,790 to this because I'll probably not do a justice, but I had the opportunity to sit in conversations 1242 01:25:50,790 --> 01:25:55,490 with the selection of the new president, Weber State University, Dr. Mallet, he's impressive. 1243 01:25:56,650 --> 01:25:57,790 It's very impressive. 1244 01:25:57,790 --> 01:26:01,130 and he's already reached out a couple of times. 1245 01:26:02,970 --> 01:26:06,430 He understands the system's goal of integration, 1246 01:26:06,850 --> 01:26:07,570 the regional integration. 1247 01:26:08,370 --> 01:26:11,590 He's an innovator, he's a disruptor, 1248 01:26:11,710 --> 01:26:14,170 and we've just stayed along. 1249 01:26:14,410 --> 01:26:14,910 He and his wife. 1250 01:26:16,810 --> 01:26:20,490 So anyway, I'm excited about that because, you know, 1251 01:26:20,530 --> 01:26:21,910 you worry that we've done so much, 1252 01:26:21,910 --> 01:26:24,510 we don't want to slow down. 1253 01:26:25,150 --> 01:26:30,350 And I think you'll hit the ground running, and I do want to publicly just share President 1254 01:26:30,350 --> 01:26:31,970 Durham who served as interim president. 1255 01:26:32,670 --> 01:26:35,130 I mean, I don't know if she hears you. 1256 01:26:35,690 --> 01:26:37,870 President Warton hired her as the provost, was she here a month? 1257 01:26:38,290 --> 01:26:40,150 Yeah, three months. 1258 01:26:40,390 --> 01:26:40,710 Three months. 1259 01:26:40,710 --> 01:26:40,790 Three months. 1260 01:26:40,970 --> 01:26:41,250 Uh-huh. 1261 01:26:41,610 --> 01:26:43,190 Before he bailed on all of us. 1262 01:26:44,990 --> 01:26:50,650 Anyway, she stepped in brilliantly, and we thought, oh gosh, here's how long is this going 1263 01:26:50,650 --> 01:26:52,050 to take until he got a president? 1264 01:26:52,050 --> 01:26:59,130 And she was brilliant or doing our CNA program up at the Layton campus now. 1265 01:26:59,770 --> 01:27:01,310 I mean, she was just such a champion. 1266 01:27:01,570 --> 01:27:06,310 So the fact that we were state gets this great president and gets to hold on to their wonderful provost. 1267 01:27:07,270 --> 01:27:09,010 I mean, I don't know how many times she was here. 1268 01:27:09,670 --> 01:27:12,110 She had to have yet today to understand it. 1269 01:27:13,150 --> 01:27:14,970 Anyway, she was wonderful. 1270 01:27:15,590 --> 01:27:18,250 I'm pleased that she'll still be around. 1271 01:27:18,250 --> 01:27:24,910 So I'm very optimistic about we per state, the future we per state, Trustee Wilson is our 1272 01:27:24,910 --> 01:27:29,830 shared trustee with we per state, so I know he was intimately involved with that selection 1273 01:27:29,830 --> 01:27:30,110 too. 1274 01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:39,010 Kind of yet, I don't know, I'm, there's other stuff. 1275 01:27:39,750 --> 01:27:41,950 This is a big doubt today. 1276 01:27:42,150 --> 01:27:42,510 I want to start. 1277 01:27:43,830 --> 01:27:49,350 I want these guys and the other 500 employees around here that make it all happen under your 1278 01:27:49,350 --> 01:27:49,590 leadership. 1279 01:27:49,590 --> 01:27:50,410 So thank you. 1280 01:27:51,030 --> 01:27:53,330 Did we want to mention something about the Treasury? 1281 01:27:55,050 --> 01:27:55,430 Oh, yeah. 1282 01:27:55,930 --> 01:27:56,450 Oh, I forgot. 1283 01:27:56,790 --> 01:27:56,890 Yeah. 1284 01:27:57,290 --> 01:27:57,510 You're good. 1285 01:27:57,890 --> 01:27:57,970 Yeah. 1286 01:27:58,530 --> 01:27:59,770 Go for it. 1287 01:28:01,750 --> 01:28:09,130 So for the last couple of years, we have been trying to open an avenue for greater interest 1288 01:28:09,130 --> 01:28:11,510 earnings on our endowment fund. 1289 01:28:11,510 --> 01:28:12,810 It's with the foundation. 1290 01:28:13,290 --> 01:28:18,350 And just this week, we had a good conversation with the State Treasurer's Office. 1291 01:28:18,350 --> 01:28:27,850 that will give us access to the same investments as the higher education endowment fund that is run by the commissioners on this. 1292 01:28:27,950 --> 01:28:28,170 Okay. 1293 01:28:28,690 --> 01:28:31,430 So there's a few things that we need to accomplish. 1294 01:28:31,810 --> 01:28:34,910 We'll need to make some minor edits to our investment policy. 1295 01:28:35,930 --> 01:28:40,530 But in the next few months, we'll be bringing that in for your approval. 1296 01:28:41,030 --> 01:28:46,990 But the whole business that we'll be able to improve our returns on from more scholarships to our students. 1297 01:28:46,990 --> 01:28:53,550 just by having access to a new vehicle that really has not been offered to, you know, 1298 01:28:53,610 --> 01:28:59,290 it's $7 million sounds like a lot to a normal person, but in the investment world, it's 1299 01:28:59,290 --> 01:29:05,090 really not much, and so the level of advice and guidance that we'll be able to get an access 1300 01:29:05,090 --> 01:29:11,280 to these funds will be significant, so that's something we look forward to, and working with 1301 01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:17,660 Christmas office they just suggested a few tweaks to our investment policy that will 1302 01:29:19,020 --> 01:29:22,860 broaden in policy the expectations for the management. 1303 01:29:24,020 --> 01:29:29,140 We'd hoped to be in that fund a year ago and we thought the treasure's office and you 1304 01:29:29,140 --> 01:29:34,440 should thought we needed legislative language and we got to the end of the session everybody 1305 01:29:34,440 --> 01:29:39,300 told us well we didn't really ever need language so we'll just work together and here's the heartbreaking 1306 01:29:39,300 --> 01:29:39,660 part. 1307 01:29:39,660 --> 01:29:41,160 What did that fund earn last year? 1308 01:29:43,980 --> 01:29:46,720 We've been in a money market. 1309 01:29:50,860 --> 01:29:55,740 What did they change in terms of just money market versus the managed? 1310 01:29:57,380 --> 01:29:59,920 The public treasure is the best funder of the PTI. 1311 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,520 Okay. Is really the cash account? Is it? Okay. It's just a lot more. It's very liquid and because of that, they do get pretty decent returns. But nothing like something that's invested in longer term horizon. And we do have access to those longer term horizons investments, but we have to go through a broker. We have to follow the state money management act. And when you put all those requirements in place, you suddenly find that your returns, less investment managers fee, 1312 01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:40,800 The PTIF is 100% secure, it's never lost money, which is reassuring for public funds. 1313 01:30:41,260 --> 01:30:45,800 The downside is it does not return as much as it possibly could have. 1314 01:30:46,740 --> 01:30:47,100 Got it. 1315 01:30:47,900 --> 01:30:48,700 That's great. 1316 01:30:51,630 --> 01:30:52,110 Okay. 1317 01:30:52,770 --> 01:30:53,270 That's it. 1318 01:30:53,610 --> 01:30:53,950 Yes. 1319 01:30:54,190 --> 01:30:54,510 Thank you. 1320 01:30:54,510 --> 01:30:54,730 Okay. 1321 01:30:54,890 --> 01:30:55,550 Do we need a motion? 1322 01:30:55,990 --> 01:30:56,130 Yes. 1323 01:30:56,570 --> 01:30:56,930 All right. 1324 01:30:57,090 --> 01:30:57,390 With some. 1325 01:30:58,250 --> 01:30:59,450 Thank you everyone. 1326 01:30:59,450 --> 01:31:04,950 someone like to make a motion to adjourn, okay thank you all in, all in favor? 1327 01:31:05,190 --> 01:31:23,430 No, no, we don't vote, we're just done, okay, sounds good, thank you everybody, okay, thank you, I apologize, I was at a WFRC meeting but I had to record on as a chair and so I was trying to leave quickly.