1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,720 Okay, I think we're ready to roll with 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:07,040 our online group and our in room group. 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,840 So, I'll go ahead and call to order our 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,840 uh lead board meeting for Monday, March 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:16,880 23rd. Um before before we launch into 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,119 some of our agenda items, um I wanted to 7 00:00:21,119 --> 00:00:24,480 give Mayor Wright an opportunity to just 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,080 give us an update on um the tragedies in 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,560 Williams County 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,000 acknowledge him and acknowledge those 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,320 struggles. So, 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,559 Mayor, right, if you're 13 00:00:38,559 --> 00:00:40,960 >> Yep. Can you hear me? 14 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,360 >> Yes, we can. 15 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:49,280 Good. Um, first and foremost, thank everyone there for all your 16 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,440 thoughts and prayers. It was really 17 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:56,000 appreciated. Um, we we had the 18 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,480 celebration of life and the last funeral 19 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,399 for Mrs. uh Redd was Friday. 20 00:01:02,399 --> 00:01:04,239 So, that part of it, we're moving 21 00:01:04,239 --> 00:01:08,880 forward and and now it's waiting for the 22 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,520 legal system to do its thing. And 23 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,600 apparently that'll be sometime in May 24 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,479 before we'll know about extradition and 25 00:01:16,479 --> 00:01:21,350 those sorts of things. 26 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,640 » I know that um just such a senseless 27 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,880 tragedy and and you know so so odd that 28 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,880 this person would pick your your 29 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,840 communities for these acts of violence. 30 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,600 I'm 31 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,119 deeply sorry that you're having to 32 00:01:37,119 --> 00:01:40,240 experience this as a community. Um the 33 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:41,920 only silver lining to things like this I 34 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,320 think sometimes 35 00:01:44,320 --> 00:01:47,360 together and support each other. So um 36 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:52,230 >> yep. Thank you. 37 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:53,680 » Thank you for taking a minute to share 38 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,200 with us and hopefully if there's 39 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,200 anything that you need that your city 40 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,280 your extended city family can provide 41 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,360 you know that you've got lots of 42 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,320 resources happen too. 43 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:09,669 >> Thanks. I really appreciate that. 44 00:02:09,679 --> 00:02:13,120 uh the minutes that were attached in our 45 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,360 packet were not the right minutes. So, 46 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,599 we're actually going to skip that part 47 00:02:17,599 --> 00:02:20,640 of um our agenda in terms of approving 48 00:02:20,640 --> 00:02:22,480 the minutes. Um just as a reminder, 49 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,000 there is a conflict of interest form. Um 50 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,040 Seth is Seth is trying to choke me on a 51 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:30,480 sandwich next to me, but I don't think 52 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,400 we will survive. 53 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,720 >> He really choked up choked up. Um, so 54 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,800 we'll we'll skip we'll skip the minutes 55 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,560 uh for the time being and double up on 56 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,360 the next meeting. Um, if anyone has a 57 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,280 conflict of interest to declare or needs 58 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,200 to update their form, please note that's 59 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,120 in your packet and and do so. And before 60 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,400 we launch into our agenda item number 61 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:55,519 three, which is our boards and 62 00:02:55,519 --> 00:02:57,519 commissions report, I don't know about 63 00:02:57,519 --> 00:02:59,120 the rest of you, but I have been going 64 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,120 through some withdrawals since the 65 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,200 session ended, namely from Slido. 66 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,480 So, I I actually 67 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,120 uh emailed Carson late last night and 68 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,840 asked if he would make us a couple 69 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,280 questions so that we can um make sure 70 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,680 that none of us get the the slido shakes 71 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,159 by the end of the meeting. 72 00:03:22,159 --> 00:03:25,040 So uh 73 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,959 prepared uh two two questions for all of 74 00:03:28,959 --> 00:03:32,239 us to consider um in the spirit of the 75 00:03:32,239 --> 00:03:34,560 fact that I love 76 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,319 rather 77 00:03:36,319 --> 00:03:40,560 um and so this one is um 78 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,720 a question about this this bill has come 79 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,040 up in past sessions. it did not come up 80 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:46,799 this session but has been a current 81 00:03:46,799 --> 00:03:49,200 frustration of mine based on the fact 82 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:50,879 that we just did this [clears throat] 83 00:03:50,879 --> 00:03:52,480 exercise 84 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,519 um where I'm again back to walking the 85 00:03:55,519 --> 00:03:58,319 dog in the dark and having to change the 86 00:03:58,319 --> 00:04:00,720 timing on all of our exterior lights. So 87 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,680 I would like to know 88 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,959 would you rather Utah move to permanent 89 00:04:06,959 --> 00:04:09,120 standard time or permanent daylight 90 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:14,000 savings time or my plan 91 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,840 which is we move it in 30 minutes with 92 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:27,110 the difference again. 93 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,120 » I just think we could have it both ways. 94 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,919 30 minutes our own time. Utah time. We 95 00:04:31,919 --> 00:04:33,120 already have the joke about Utah 96 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,600 standard time. Why not? Why not go with 97 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:36,160 this? 98 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,840 >> We just skip it and just everybody pick 99 00:04:37,840 --> 00:04:40,800 their own time. 100 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,670 >> Show up to work late. 101 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,440 on daylight. Daylight, 102 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,280 >> if you had emailed Carson, we could have 103 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:50,469 had 104 00:04:50,479 --> 00:04:52,639 option on third. Okay. Well, I'm glad to 105 00:04:52,639 --> 00:04:56,160 see that so many of you agreed with me 106 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,080 in this. Would you rather? Oh, I said 107 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:58,880 that now. 108 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,629 >> You said that. 109 00:05:02,639 --> 00:05:04,479 » Okay. We also prepared a second 110 00:05:04,479 --> 00:05:06,560 question. 111 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,280 So, we'll move to this one. So I have a 112 00:05:09,280 --> 00:05:12,080 fascination with the list of Utah 113 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:31,423 themseling 114 00:05:31,433 --> 00:05:33,909 [laughter] 115 00:05:33,919 --> 00:05:40,469 up here. 116 00:05:40,479 --> 00:05:42,639 So we have not gone have not in 22 117 00:05:42,639 --> 00:05:45,360 sessions not had a bill state thing not 118 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,199 it doesn't always pass this year there 119 00:05:47,199 --> 00:05:49,440 was a bill to make the Android operating 120 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,360 system the part of the state symbols 121 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,720 this bill didn't advance because it's 122 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,390 just so wrong [laughter] 123 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,360 way to go but uh we don't actually have 124 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,199 a state food we do have a state cooking 125 00:06:05,199 --> 00:06:07,360 pot it's the Dutch oven in case you were 126 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:08,639 wondering. No, 127 00:06:08,639 --> 00:06:10,080 >> but we don't have a state food. So then 128 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,840 I was curious if we were to introduce 129 00:06:11,840 --> 00:06:14,240 our own bill next session for state 130 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:15,600 food, what would it be? And it looks 131 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:16,639 like you all think it's 132 00:06:16,639 --> 00:06:32,309 >> funeral. 133 00:06:32,319 --> 00:06:34,400 » Okay. It's our thing. 134 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:35,600 >> Does everyone feel better that you've 135 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:36,720 engaged in the slido? 136 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:37,680 >> Yes. 137 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:42,000 >> Okay. So, uh, now that we've engaged in 138 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,240 our state slido or our league slido 139 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,639 event, um, I'm now I'm going to turn a 140 00:06:46,639 --> 00:06:49,680 little bit of time over to Cameron 141 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,039 learning about um, why he's on family 142 00:06:53,039 --> 00:06:54,400 leave and only appearing with us for a 143 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,160 short amount. 144 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,960 Excited I am here today. First of all, 145 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,000 thank you everybody for your time today. 146 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,960 And the purpose of today's board meeting 147 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,759 is to set the stage for the interim. As 148 00:07:07,759 --> 00:07:09,759 terrible as that is to say, two weeks 149 00:07:09,759 --> 00:07:12,000 after the legislative session ended, uh 150 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,919 Justin and I have already received calls 151 00:07:13,919 --> 00:07:16,319 from legislators, legislative staff, 152 00:07:16,319 --> 00:07:18,800 governor's office, and others starting 153 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,599 the process for bill files for next year 154 00:07:21,599 --> 00:07:24,720 and big ticket items. In fact, the 155 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:32,000 session ended Friday. the following Monday 156 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,800 didn't get any any calls but the Tuesday 157 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,199 I did a legislator wanting to start 158 00:07:37,199 --> 00:07:41,440 talking about this the 2027 session and 159 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,560 as we indicated that the LPC briefing 160 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,639 our post session briefing uh the 161 00:07:46,639 --> 00:07:48,800 Thursday after the session we already 162 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,759 have 20 plus items that are on the 163 00:07:51,759 --> 00:07:53,440 agenda and we haven't even started our 164 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:54,879 own outreach to our members for 165 00:07:54,879 --> 00:07:58,080 potential bills or four topics. 166 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,000 So today's meeting really is setting the 167 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,400 stage for the interum. Now that's not 168 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,720 what President Bradshaw asked me about. 169 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,080 >> No, I was going to remind you that was 170 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,319 not what I 171 00:08:08,319 --> 00:08:11,280 >> You'll you'll also see that in the in 172 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,240 the board agenda, we've referenced the 173 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,319 board objectives as a framing device for 174 00:08:16,319 --> 00:08:18,080 the different topics we'll be hitting 175 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,639 today. And deep dive for those of you 176 00:08:20,639 --> 00:08:22,479 who are new that I'll talk more about 177 00:08:22,479 --> 00:08:24,720 that later. Uh what she wants me to 178 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,440 mention is that uh Wednesday after the 179 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,039 session, my wife gave birth to a baby 180 00:08:31,039 --> 00:08:33,760 boy who's healthy. Um his name is 181 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,039 Brennan Joseph and and he hasn't figured 182 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:39,760 out when is day and when is night or how 183 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,519 to sleep for longer than 90 minutes at a 184 00:08:41,519 --> 00:08:45,680 time. So I will do my best prison fall 185 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:48,959 asleep during board meeting. Uh but um 186 00:08:48,959 --> 00:08:52,320 my wife is recovering and uh Joy has had 187 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,320 some health issues during the pregnancy, 188 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,839 but she's recovering um with each day. 189 00:08:57,839 --> 00:09:01,839 And and then I've been on family leave 190 00:09:01,839 --> 00:09:04,160 with board members who actually most of 191 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:05,440 you weren't on the board when the board 192 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,760 had this discussion several years ago, 193 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,200 but the league did institute a family 194 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,440 leave policy several years ago and he's 195 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:12,959 benefiting from that now. So thank you 196 00:09:12,959 --> 00:09:15,680 very much. that family leave is 197 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:18,320 facilitated, my wife, 198 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,120 me being able to spend time with Brendan 199 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,279 who's now a week and a half old and then 200 00:09:23,279 --> 00:09:26,320 also with my with my daughters who are 201 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,800 85 who are adjusting to being big 202 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,959 sisters and loving every minute of being 203 00:09:30,959 --> 00:09:34,880 big sisters. Um, so 204 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,560 it's my wife and I have commented 205 00:09:36,560 --> 00:09:38,080 multiple times just how different the 206 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:39,600 last week and a half has been compared 207 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,320 to the our first two. [clears throat] 208 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,399 Our oldest daughter, she was born during 209 00:09:44,399 --> 00:09:46,240 the session, but she was born on a 210 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,480 Tuesday, not exactly capital on Thursday 211 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,800 just because we know session be in 212 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,640 session. We didn't have any policies at 213 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,920 the time. And then our second daughter 214 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,800 was born during COVID. And the week 215 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,920 where when George Floyd was killed and 216 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,320 so you had the protests and everything 217 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,399 else and started back your former police 218 00:10:06,399 --> 00:10:08,160 chief and I were on the phone together a 219 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,480 few days after my second daughter was 220 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:11,760 born discussing whether or not there 221 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,480 should be a statewide curfew. So to go 222 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,880 from the experiences of having a newborn 223 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,279 during those two eras versus the life we 224 00:10:19,279 --> 00:10:22,000 have just been day. So, thank you for 225 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,640 approving a family leave policy so that 226 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,880 my family can benefit from it. And I'll 227 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,440 be and thank you to my staff who did a 228 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,360 great job in DC last week while I was 229 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,240 out. And I'll be out again off and on 230 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,800 for the next the next few weeks um 231 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,320 staying on top of things I need to stay 232 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,560 on top of, but also 233 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:44,000 helping my wife and and taking care of. 234 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,750 So, thank you. 235 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,200 » I can show you one on my phone. I don't 236 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,732 have one for the public meeting but 237 00:10:51,732 --> 00:10:52,399 [laughter] 238 00:10:52,399 --> 00:10:53,519 okay 239 00:10:53,519 --> 00:10:56,959 >> I did just for the board I did try and 240 00:10:56,959 --> 00:11:00,000 do a side poll I was going to suggest 241 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,240 names they might consider 242 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:03,040 >> you did suggest name 243 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,839 >> I did suggest a name 244 00:11:05,839 --> 00:11:07,200 of the [clears throat] 245 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,829 >> um I just thought was a good name 246 00:11:11,839 --> 00:11:13,519 » as much as she thought Kate was a good 247 00:11:13,519 --> 00:11:14,959 name there were others who thought other 248 00:11:14,959 --> 00:11:16,480 names were good too 249 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:22,949 >> like we just suggested 250 00:11:22,959 --> 00:11:26,240 Jack the stats of how big you have been 251 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,240 born 252 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:32,320 5 ounces born a week and a half early 253 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,680 technically 19 just but who knows all 254 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:38,880 over the place 255 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,680 my wife's recovering and doing well 256 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:44,480 awesome 257 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,360 >> this is important to know this how soon 258 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,360 after he or did you put him in a 259 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,360 University of Utah onesie? 260 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,120 >> So, I have a couple University of Utah 261 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:54,800 onesies, but he actually hasn't worn any 262 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:59,279 of them yet because I'm told words about 263 00:11:59,279 --> 00:12:07,990 my current feelings for the university. 264 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:16,310 » Will take you anybody 265 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:17,760 has watched a lot of tournament. Well, 266 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,279 he slept through it, but he's been in my 267 00:12:19,279 --> 00:12:22,000 arms for some basketball games. 268 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,360 >> Well, I'm sure I speak for the entire 269 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,560 board when we say it's um 270 00:12:26,560 --> 00:12:29,600 your work ethic and the amount of hours 271 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,720 you put in year round for special 272 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,959 is really just tremendous. Um the time 273 00:12:36,959 --> 00:12:39,120 uh the time that you're spending now is 274 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,360 really important and so we expect you 275 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,279 after this meeting endurance to ignore 276 00:12:43,279 --> 00:12:45,040 our text and emails. You have a very 277 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:49,600 capable staff. spend spend the time. Um 278 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,440 there's really nothing more important. 279 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,000 >> Okay, with that we'll go back to our 280 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,079 agenda. 281 00:12:58,079 --> 00:13:00,560 >> If there's any other 282 00:13:00,560 --> 00:13:03,200 Okay. Uh we will then move to our board 283 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,519 and commission reports and appointments. 284 00:13:05,519 --> 00:13:07,440 Alexa, if you want to 285 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,279 >> funeral potatoes and baby Brandon are 286 00:13:09,279 --> 00:13:11,839 hard to follow. 287 00:13:11,839 --> 00:13:13,760 We just have one item that we need to 288 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,279 take action on today and then I have a 289 00:13:15,279 --> 00:13:17,040 few updates on boards and commissions 290 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:18,880 that came out of the legislative 291 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,760 session. So, first you as the key board 292 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,920 of directors are responsible responsible 293 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,160 for nominating an elected or appointed 294 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,240 municipal official to the governor for 295 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:29,519 him to choose from when making 296 00:13:29,519 --> 00:13:30,880 appointments to the private activity 297 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,200 bond review board. The PAB review board 298 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:34,560 is responsible for allocating the 299 00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:36,399 state's private activity bond volume 300 00:13:36,399 --> 00:13:38,480 cap, which includes lower interest 301 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,560 primary loans for a variety of uses, 302 00:13:40,560 --> 00:13:42,800 namely affordable housing development. 303 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,959 Um, currently South Jordan City 304 00:13:44,959 --> 00:13:47,839 Treasurer Chip Dawson is a municipal 305 00:13:47,839 --> 00:13:50,079 representative on the PA review board 306 00:13:50,079 --> 00:13:53,120 that his term will end on May 1st. So, 307 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,600 we recommend that you nominate your very 308 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,399 own Clearfield Mayor, Mark Shepard, to 309 00:13:58,399 --> 00:14:00,800 serve a four-year term on this board. 310 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,560 Mayor Shepard's professional experience 311 00:14:02,560 --> 00:14:04,399 in the real estate industry and housing 312 00:14:04,399 --> 00:14:07,920 finance along with his his um almost two 313 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,800 decades service as an elected official. 314 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:18,710 Sorry. 315 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:29,839 » That start 316 00:14:29,849 --> 00:14:31,199 [laughter] 317 00:14:31,199 --> 00:14:34,470 year. 318 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,880 » So recommend you nominate Mayor Sheepard 319 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,880 to the 8 board. Mayor Shepard, I don't 320 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,720 know if you have anything to add, but 321 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,480 that's the only item we need action. 322 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:47,990 >> You summarize it pretty well. [laughter] 323 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,839 » That's amazing. 324 00:14:49,839 --> 00:14:51,519 >> Right. And so, do we want to take action 325 00:14:51,519 --> 00:14:52,800 on that right now or should they go 326 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,800 through my updates first before 327 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,600 >> anyone have any deep grilling questions 328 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,079 they'd like to ask Mark? If not, 329 00:15:00,079 --> 00:15:02,600 >> sorry about this. 330 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,240 [laughter] 331 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,079 >> You want to establish any other things 332 00:15:06,079 --> 00:15:08,480 that you feel like are critical 333 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,160 ability to represent us on this board? 334 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,000 >> No. Okay. In that case, let's let's 335 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,040 move to the other. 336 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,760 >> I move to 337 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:32,710 have the illustrious 338 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,959 Any discussion? 339 00:15:34,959 --> 00:15:37,440 Okay, seeing none. All in favor? 340 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,079 >> I 341 00:15:40,079 --> 00:15:41,279 >> We'll give just a minute for those 342 00:15:41,279 --> 00:15:45,440 online. Any opposed? 343 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,160 Seeing none, it looks like you'll be 344 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,120 able to uh deploy the wisdom of all of 345 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,079 your elected years [laughter] 346 00:15:54,079 --> 00:15:58,470 forward to nine election years ago. 347 00:15:58,480 --> 00:15:59,920 » Awesome. All right. And then I just have 348 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:01,759 a few updates on boards and commissions 349 00:16:01,759 --> 00:16:03,440 that came out of this most recent 350 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,399 legislative session. So HB475, that's 351 00:16:06,399 --> 00:16:10,000 from 2026, not 2025. A typo. Um created 352 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,920 the economic development council within 353 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:13,519 the governor's office of economic 354 00:16:13,519 --> 00:16:16,000 development. Yes, it was re renamed back 355 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,720 to go from Goyo also in this bill. So, 356 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,720 this board is responsible for coord 357 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,880 coordinating um economic development 358 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,639 projects with regional or statewide 359 00:16:24,639 --> 00:16:27,199 significance. Um and one of the 10 360 00:16:27,199 --> 00:16:29,680 members on the board is to be appointed 361 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,800 by you all the cities and towns boards 362 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,040 board of directors. So, likely next 363 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,519 month or in May we will come back for an 364 00:16:37,519 --> 00:16:40,560 appointment to this board. Um and then 365 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,720 HB507 366 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,839 created a in tax increment financing 367 00:16:45,839 --> 00:16:47,199 work group within the political 368 00:16:47,199 --> 00:16:49,680 subdivision intern. The work group is 369 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,759 required to be created by May 30th and 370 00:16:51,759 --> 00:16:53,600 is required to study tax increment 371 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,680 financing and make a recommendation 372 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,759 regarding the maximum percentage of tax 373 00:16:57,759 --> 00:17:00,160 increment or maximum total amount of 374 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,560 revenue to be gener to be generated and 375 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,160 utilized through tax increment 376 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,400 financing. So taking a more holistic 377 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,799 look at all of the different policies 378 00:17:08,799 --> 00:17:10,400 related to chip that were passed this 379 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,240 session. So this work group will consist 380 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,160 of seven members is required to come up 381 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:15,919 with a recommendation by November 1st 382 00:17:15,919 --> 00:17:18,720 and one of those members is to be uh 383 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,360 appointed by this body. So again he'll 384 00:17:21,360 --> 00:17:24,880 come back with those for appointment 385 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,959 next month and then I'll pass it along 386 00:17:26,959 --> 00:17:29,039 to Cameron and Molly to talk about your 387 00:17:29,039 --> 00:17:30,880 pipeline workroom and the mitigation. 388 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,039 before you leave that those two. So the 389 00:17:33,039 --> 00:17:36,080 first one um 390 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,440 involving goed is a longer term 391 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,799 assignment. The second one is a short 392 00:17:42,799 --> 00:17:45,360 condensed by November assignment. 393 00:17:45,360 --> 00:17:46,400 >> Correct. 394 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,440 >> Okay. And are you looking for 395 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,160 uh someone that's more in a staff 396 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:53,679 practitioner role for the second 397 00:17:53,679 --> 00:17:58,400 assignment or for this one either either 398 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,720 from a staff or an elective perspective? 399 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:06,320 I think either or at this point that second one 400 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,160 is a little less formal. Yeah. So we 401 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:11,760 want to have a few more conversations 402 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,480 with legislative research staff who will 403 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,360 be staffing that group to figure out 404 00:18:17,360 --> 00:18:19,840 what the right person and what the right 405 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,160 skill set is for that that meeting. 406 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,080 Whereas that other one you know that 407 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,640 other one is a very very important 408 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,240 political body. It's not the UEOC from 409 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,960 several years ago but it's in that 410 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,760 spirit. So it's a yeah that's a 411 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:36,960 different task. 412 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,880 >> Okay. 413 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:44,240 So, um, if people are interested, um, if 414 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,440 you'll get any of those, uh, indications 415 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,160 of interest or suggestions 416 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,559 that prepared to talk about it when 417 00:18:52,559 --> 00:18:55,520 we're all down in St. George and April. 418 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,510 >> Yes. Thank you. Thanks, everyone. 419 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,520 » Okay. And then Molly and Cameron, are 420 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,679 you going to talk about this next two? 421 00:19:03,679 --> 00:19:06,400 >> Yep. I'll do the first I'll do the 422 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,440 second. The pioneer pipeline work group 423 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,760 only affects a head of cities. So as of 424 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,960 now they know who they are. But this was 425 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,799 this is quickly situational awareness 426 00:19:16,799 --> 00:19:19,919 for the board. So part of the 427 00:19:19,919 --> 00:19:22,480 discussions around the gas tax 428 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,480 with the petroleum industry and other 429 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,640 stakeholders. 430 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,080 There was an expectation 431 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:35,280 that made it legislative intent 432 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,480 to expand the pipeline capacity coming 433 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,039 into the state of Utah to bring more 434 00:19:41,039 --> 00:19:44,000 crude to the state fire. So when I say 435 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,760 the cities know who they are, the 436 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,679 pioneer pipeline currently runs through 437 00:19:47,679 --> 00:19:49,440 unincorporated Summit County, 438 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,280 unincorporated Salt Lake County, 439 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,360 Immigration Canyon, 440 00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:56,080 Salt Lake City, Woods, North Salt Lake, 441 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,840 and West. 442 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,520 So if there is pipeline expansion 443 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,919 following the Pioneer route, right, 444 00:20:03,919 --> 00:20:05,679 Pioneer pipeline route, it would come 445 00:20:05,679 --> 00:20:08,160 through those jurisdictions. That 446 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:09,919 doesn't necessarily mean it will come 447 00:20:09,919 --> 00:20:12,160 through those jurisdictions. 448 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,919 It's possible that as they start to work 449 00:20:13,919 --> 00:20:16,400 on where this new pipeline will come, 450 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,000 there could be other alignments they 451 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,919 could look at that could then in turn 452 00:20:19,919 --> 00:20:21,360 bring in other communities. The reason 453 00:20:21,360 --> 00:20:22,640 we wanted to bring up situational 454 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,960 awareness here is that there were there 455 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,440 were some pretty spirited discussions 456 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,679 the last couple weeks of the session 457 00:20:29,679 --> 00:20:31,120 whether or not there should have been 458 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:34,159 some statutory direction that really 459 00:20:34,159 --> 00:20:36,960 amounted to preeemption of land use and 460 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,039 regulatory authority at the local level 461 00:20:39,039 --> 00:20:40,799 and try to facilitate this and we pushed 462 00:20:40,799 --> 00:20:43,360 back on that and actually had a great 463 00:20:43,360 --> 00:20:45,280 meeting with all seven of those 464 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,080 jurisdictions and ultimately the 465 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,400 legislators involved said you're right 466 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:51,520 partnership ship is a better approach 467 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,640 here than preeemption. And so they've 468 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,480 made it clear that they want to see 469 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:57,760 collaboration between all the 470 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,200 governmental entities to figure out the 471 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,280 pipeline. And I expect meetings will 472 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,390 start 473 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,000 but situational awareness for everybody 474 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,760 there. Right now it only affects seven 475 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,600 jurisdictions but it could affect others 476 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,679 depending on what that alignment might 477 00:21:11,679 --> 00:21:13,120 look like. 478 00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:16,880 >> Excellent. And um so for the mitigation 479 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,720 task force, we've chatting for a while 480 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,280 about 481 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,039 have some updates on how fund work to 482 00:21:25,039 --> 00:21:29,520 the city. Um originally in AP596, there 483 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,600 were some provisions that created a task 484 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,919 to work on these issues. Um however, 485 00:21:35,919 --> 00:21:38,720 AP596 did not pass and the provisions of 486 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,039 that bill uh that were moved into other 487 00:21:41,039 --> 00:21:43,679 bills that did pass did not include this 488 00:21:43,679 --> 00:21:46,159 mitigation task force. Um the nice thing 489 00:21:46,159 --> 00:21:48,640 is that we don't need statute to create 490 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:53,280 a task force. Um and so the plan is uh 491 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:54,960 Tyler Clansink is the new state 492 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,159 homelessness coordinator who'll be 493 00:21:56,159 --> 00:21:59,760 joining us later today. Um but our goal 494 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:04,000 is to have a group of shelter cities, 495 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:08,000 non-shelter cities, um and uh together 496 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,240 clampy um as well as support from le 497 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,559 staff to kind of have that conversation 498 00:22:12,559 --> 00:22:14,320 about 499 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:15,760 what mitigation funding should look 500 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,640 like, contributions, contributions, um 501 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,640 reporting how dollars are spent, things 502 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,200 of that nature. So, um, still pretty 503 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,280 nent in figuring out what exactly that 504 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,760 will look like, but, uh, the staff in 505 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,640 partnership likely with OHS will bring a 506 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,120 proposal for the board and from there, 507 00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:35,280 um, we'll we'll solicit folks to to 508 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,750 serve on that 509 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,200 staff members. 510 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,679 >> Uh, we haven't made a determination yet. 511 00:22:43,679 --> 00:22:46,559 I think it's um, 512 00:22:46,559 --> 00:22:48,400 potentially similar to this other group. 513 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,320 I think we want to make sure that in 514 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,480 some cities the elected officials really 515 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,720 know their numbers in and out especially 516 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,360 for the shelter cities and in some uh 517 00:22:57,360 --> 00:23:00,000 it's more staff driven and so I think 518 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,919 the you know potential quote unquote 519 00:23:01,919 --> 00:23:06,480 best fit per city may vary um between 520 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,400 elective and staff just based on how 521 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,789 those were set up 522 00:23:12,799 --> 00:23:14,799 and Tyler will be here later this 523 00:23:14,799 --> 00:23:19,590 afternoon as part of board meeting. 524 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,520 any questions you can bring up there. 525 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:22,799 Looking forward to that. So, thank you. 526 00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:25,200 Molly. And um I think that 527 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,799 was it, right? 528 00:23:26,799 --> 00:23:30,070 >> Okay. 529 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,320 I picked an inopportune time to sneak in 530 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,480 a bite of my sandwich. 531 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,360 Um and then the next item, which is our 532 00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:41,679 engagement report, also by Molly. 533 00:23:41,679 --> 00:23:43,520 Um, so as far as engagement goes, 534 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,080 there's a reminder on what our support 535 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,559 objectives are on engagement. We don't 536 00:23:48,559 --> 00:23:49,760 need to spend a lot of time chating 537 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,400 about this today 538 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,720 meeting, but it is to engage with league 539 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,400 memberships, strengthen connection to 540 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,200 organizations, ongoing challenges, 541 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,600 provide league resources and events that 542 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,440 meet the very needs of membership, and 543 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:04,880 pursue and facilitate technical 544 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,919 assistance to support municipalities. Um 545 00:24:07,919 --> 00:24:10,480 so other updates for you as they kind of 546 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,799 fit within those objectives. I think uh 547 00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:15,200 one of our really big wins from session 548 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,240 able to fully restore um the funding for 549 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,400 the LAA program ongoing. Um 550 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,960 it was a really tight budget year. Uh 551 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,120 even though the governor did include LAA 552 00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:29,039 funding in his budget, it was only one 553 00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:33,440 time and having those dollars ongoing is 554 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,520 huge to help us have some more stability 555 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,679 in this program and make it so that we 556 00:24:37,679 --> 00:24:39,200 don't have to spend critical capital 557 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,039 year after year to try to get those 558 00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:43,760 dollars time and time again. So um a 559 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,520 huge thank you to everyone um who helped 560 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,840 advocate for that. It was a massive 561 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,279 effort from community that do 562 00:24:51,279 --> 00:24:52,559 participate in the program and those 563 00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:54,799 that don't. So, a big thank you to all 564 00:24:54,799 --> 00:24:57,120 of you and I think a big shout out to 565 00:24:57,120 --> 00:24:59,600 McKenna and our contractors who have 566 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,279 stuck with us uh throughout this 567 00:25:01,279 --> 00:25:03,679 uncertainty um of trying to restore 568 00:25:03,679 --> 00:25:05,120 those dollars and I think we're really 569 00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:07,520 excited to see um what the future holds 570 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:08,799 for this program. 571 00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:10,640 >> Well, I'll just add two quick things. I 572 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,320 want to thank the league officers. The 573 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:13,919 officers [clears throat] met with with 574 00:25:13,919 --> 00:25:16,159 President Adams and Speaker Schultz 575 00:25:16,159 --> 00:25:17,520 before the session and during the 576 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,679 session to make sure they knew the 577 00:25:19,679 --> 00:25:21,760 priority of the LA funding and what that 578 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,200 meant for our smallest members and and 579 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,440 both the Senate President and the 580 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker expressed their support and 581 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,000 appreciation for the good work that's been done there. 582 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,919 The we were able to address some 583 00:25:35,919 --> 00:25:37,520 political issues that arose last year 584 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,360 that resulted in that funding cut and we 585 00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:41,120 got those addressed too. throws a of a 586 00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:44,159 win-win all the way around there. The 587 00:25:44,159 --> 00:25:46,159 second piece that we'll talk about later 588 00:25:46,159 --> 00:25:50,240 in the meeting is that last year we put 589 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,000 the big picture strategic discussion 590 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,799 around delay on pause because we weren't 591 00:25:54,799 --> 00:25:55,840 sure what the funding was going to look 592 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,559 like. Now we know the funding's there. 593 00:25:58,559 --> 00:25:59,840 So that would be part of our discussion 594 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,190 in April. 595 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,600 Um then moving on to the next uh NLC 596 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,120 congressional city summit just wrapped 597 00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:12,480 up in Washington DC. We were able to 598 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,039 about 70 representatives from cities and 599 00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:18,320 towns across which was really great. Our 600 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,880 branch uh Senator Curtis was great and 601 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,640 organized another capital tour for the 602 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,799 group which representatives Kennedy and 603 00:26:24,799 --> 00:26:28,480 Mallaloy joined. Um it was I would say a 604 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:29,840 great conference overall. It's always 605 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,480 nice after session to kind of have some 606 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,799 time to connect with folks and learn 607 00:26:34,799 --> 00:26:35,919 about some things happening at the 608 00:26:35,919 --> 00:26:38,080 federal level. Um, I think one thing 609 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,679 that happened this year that was 610 00:26:39,679 --> 00:26:41,279 particularly exciting was Mayor Klein of 611 00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:44,320 Saratoga Springs was able to testify um 612 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,400 for the House Natural Resources about 613 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,760 the bill that uh Congressman um Burgess 614 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,360 Owens is running to transfer some 615 00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:54,400 federal land over uh to the post office 616 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,200 so that they can 617 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,200 really cool that the opportunity to do 618 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,880 that. He was uh joined in the committee 619 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,400 by Lee High Mountain. So that was really 620 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,880 great. Otherwise, um I know Mayor 621 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,039 Shepard is deeply involved with 622 00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:10,960 Philadelphia. I don't if there's 623 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,159 anything else either of you would like 624 00:27:12,159 --> 00:27:14,159 to add. 625 00:27:14,159 --> 00:27:16,000 >> I appreciated experiencing a tornado 626 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:16,640 warning. 627 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,159 >> Yes, in DC which is 628 00:27:20,159 --> 00:27:22,240 being a native Utah, I'm unprepared for 629 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,120 that kind of flash wildfires or 630 00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:27,760 earthquakes. 631 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,440 >> So that was great. It was and wind 632 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,760 storms. and wind storms. It's just not 633 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:36,799 in a story pattern only down. 634 00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:40,159 >> Yeah, it was a it was a great time. Um I 635 00:27:40,159 --> 00:27:41,760 think one of the most impactful sessions 636 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,400 I attended was included the police chief 637 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,600 of Minneapolis and that was a a really 638 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,279 impactful breakout session on 639 00:27:51,279 --> 00:27:54,080 immigration and local authority and um 640 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,919 found his remarks to be really deeply 641 00:27:55,919 --> 00:27:59,840 impactful. Joyce F was our delegation as 642 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,360 well. I don't know if you had any 643 00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:02,799 takeways from your leadership position 644 00:28:02,799 --> 00:28:03,600 on NLT. 645 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:04,720 >> Yeah, I can see a whole lot of our 646 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:05,679 delegation. 647 00:28:05,679 --> 00:28:08,640 >> I thought you would be 648 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:09,679 disappointing not to be able to 649 00:28:09,679 --> 00:28:11,760 participate like I'd like to, but uh but 650 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,600 a lot of good stuff. Yeah, I think as 651 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,120 far as impact, Rand Paul's speech during 652 00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:20,559 general session was was fantastic. um 653 00:28:20,559 --> 00:28:23,600 NLC scheduled 654 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,159 eight eight Democrat yeah see eight 655 00:28:26,159 --> 00:28:28,159 Republicans and seven Democrats to speak 656 00:28:28,159 --> 00:28:32,480 at at convention and had I mean that good of a response from Congress 657 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,399 that they were able to bring in a 658 00:28:34,399 --> 00:28:37,600 bipartisan group to speak to everybody 659 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,679 and only got you know little hesitation 660 00:28:39,679 --> 00:28:43,520 on one so that uh it was good we were 661 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,919 they did reach out to 662 00:28:45,919 --> 00:28:49,440 um White House and were turned down from 663 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,919 president, vice president come speak. So 664 00:28:51,919 --> 00:28:53,360 we uh [clears throat] 665 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,760 so we did we make do with a with a whole 666 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,640 bunch of representatives or congressman 667 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,440 senators and it was good. It was a lot a 668 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:02,799 lot lot of good came out of it. None of 669 00:29:02,799 --> 00:29:06,159 them really good conversations on uh 670 00:29:06,159 --> 00:29:08,960 immigration and I held a four and a half 671 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,440 hour meeting with 672 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,760 15 mayors, 14 mayors in my with on 673 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,520 immigration and the impacts of 674 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,360 immigration and uh very great 675 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,200 really really really 676 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:28,549 came out of that. 677 00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:30,480 » Perfect. Thank you both. Yeah, it was it 678 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,320 was a great time. Um, and we all made it 679 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,240 through the the DC tornado of 2026. 680 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,720 Um, in addition to that, uh, our next 681 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,320 big event, we have midyear coming up 682 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,360 April 22nd through 24th in St. George. 683 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,200 Um, as Cam mentioned, and we'll chat 684 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,720 more. We'll have a board meeting there 685 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,039 with more of our strategic discussion as 686 00:29:49,039 --> 00:29:52,080 well as our typical programming. We're 687 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,240 really excited to have Greg Jackson um, 688 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,799 as our keynote. Um he has a great 689 00:29:56,799 --> 00:29:59,200 podcast history built by himself. Uh but 690 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,440 he's a pretty engaging uh historian. 691 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,320 He's actually WD. Um and so he's 692 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:05,919 actually it's pretty fun. He's getting a 693 00:30:05,919 --> 00:30:07,919 lot of kind of national getting on the 694 00:30:07,919 --> 00:30:09,520 national circuit but he's one of our 695 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:14,080 local guys. So it was local 696 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,950 um anything. 697 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,880 Um please register if you haven't 698 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,880 already. We'd love to have a there. 699 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,799 We'll be doing a half day training with 700 00:30:24,799 --> 00:30:29,360 DA on accomplish again um just before 701 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,440 it kind of as I 702 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,279 would love to attend we'd love to have 703 00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:38,000 them but hopefully you can all find 704 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,159 another time to either practice your 705 00:30:40,159 --> 00:30:42,000 confidence or further training your 706 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,520 confidence. 707 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,320 Um and then in addition to that Cassie 708 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:47,520 and I just wanted to tell you a little 709 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,120 bit about our property tax outreach 710 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,840 plan. So, as you all know, property tax 711 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,240 was one of the big issues of the 712 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,480 session. Um, and we in conversation with 713 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,559 a lot of folks and kind of hearing some 714 00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:03,279 of the angst amongst legislators and the 715 00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:06,240 public kind of came to the conclusion 716 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,080 that there's so much confusion about 717 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,399 what property tax is and isn't and how 718 00:31:10,399 --> 00:31:14,159 it works. that really anything that the 719 00:31:14,159 --> 00:31:17,120 legislature does is unlikely to 720 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,760 alleviate public frustration as long as 721 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,440 the public does not understand how 722 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:26,320 property tax works. And no one in that 723 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,880 space um communicating that I think 724 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,880 clearly for the the general public and 725 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,960 so um we have entered into a contract 726 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,679 with XFactor uh to to come into that 727 00:31:37,679 --> 00:31:39,840 space more 728 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,720 mention in a moment. We're also working 729 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,039 with the tax commission on our trainings 730 00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:46,640 to make sure that we have that updated 731 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,320 checklist for all of our municipalities 732 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,519 on how to grow through truth and 733 00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:51,440 taxation. And then we're also going 734 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,919 through the final round of edits on the 735 00:31:53,919 --> 00:31:56,000 making sense of dollars over the hall 736 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,760 that we um are publishing in support of 737 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,279 the support from the Garner Policy 738 00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:04,960 Institute. Um and that will include a 739 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,039 good chunk of time on property tax as 740 00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:09,279 well. So Cassidy with that can I hand it 741 00:32:09,279 --> 00:32:11,200 over to you 742 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,720 about XFactor contract? 743 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,880 >> Yes. So we're working with XFactor to 744 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,600 complete 10 one minute to one and a half 745 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,159 minute videos. These videos are going to 746 00:32:20,159 --> 00:32:22,159 be animated and on a variety of topics. 747 00:32:22,159 --> 00:32:23,760 Person can support that side if you have 748 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,000 a handy to kind of show you the breadth 749 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,679 of topics we're going to talk about. One 750 00:32:27,679 --> 00:32:29,600 thing I want to emphasize, this is not 751 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,840 to replace anyone's efforts in 752 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,360 communicating with their residents on 753 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,799 what's happening should you choose to do 754 00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:36,880 a property tax increase. This is to 755 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,159 support it, right? So, there are some 756 00:32:38,159 --> 00:32:40,399 things like you as a city or town can't 757 00:32:40,399 --> 00:32:42,640 control. That's the process, right? like 758 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,720 you can't control the process, but you 759 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,159 can talk about what you're doing and 760 00:32:46,159 --> 00:32:47,360 what services you're choosing to 761 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,279 highlight and emphasize. So, as you look 762 00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:50,720 at this list, we have like what is 763 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,760 property tax, who pays it, um why do I 764 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,679 keep paying property taxes after I own 765 00:32:55,679 --> 00:32:59,039 my home, who collects property taxes, uh 766 00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:00,080 we're going to talk about assessed 767 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,600 value. We're going to talk about how to 768 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,000 read your property tax bill. We're also 769 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,279 going to do a video about how you can 770 00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:07,360 get involved in the budgeting process. I 771 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:08,640 think a lot of times you have residents 772 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,080 who get their property tax bill and 773 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,440 that's the first time they've heard of 774 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,760 what's happening. Not all residents but 775 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,039 a few. So just kind of talking about 776 00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:16,960 like how you can get involved in public 777 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,200 hearings and similarly like sometimes 778 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,559 it's really just an email if you're a 779 00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:22,240 council member, right? As you know, you 780 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,440 have your public hearings but it's not 781 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,279 really a forum for you to have a 782 00:33:25,279 --> 00:33:27,440 discussion with your residents, right? 783 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,360 So that's kind of a few items we're 784 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:34,080 working on. Um yeah, any questioning? 785 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,760 >> I love this. I can't wait to share it. 786 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,360 Those are gonna be really good. 787 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,600 >> Yeah. So, we will be posting it on our 788 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,399 uh website. So, feel free to take the 789 00:33:42,399 --> 00:33:43,919 videos, right? We're not going to have 790 00:33:43,919 --> 00:33:45,600 this really weird distribution process. 791 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,600 We'll probably outline kind of like some 792 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:48,880 ideas and a plan for you because 793 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,799 obviously some of you have really 794 00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:52,880 sophisticated and lovely comms teams and 795 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,039 others of you, you are the cons team. 796 00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:57,279 So, we're going to create a little bit 797 00:33:57,279 --> 00:33:59,039 of a guide on how to use these videos 798 00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:01,840 and how to help you and things along 799 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,600 those lines. Um, are there any 800 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,679 suggestions as to topics we may be 801 00:34:05,679 --> 00:34:08,480 missing on this list or any other grand 802 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:13,030 words of wisdom for us to 803 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,440 » the things that I often find residents 804 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,560 just kind of can't get their their minds 805 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,879 around is that their property, their home appreciates 806 00:34:22,879 --> 00:34:24,720 in value, 807 00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:26,159 >> but that cities aren't naturally 808 00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:27,520 capturing that. I understand that's 809 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,320 probably your assessed value. 810 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,399 that could be like its own series of 10 811 00:34:34,399 --> 00:34:37,839 one minute videos. That is that is the 812 00:34:37,839 --> 00:34:41,040 hangout. And residents often assume 813 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,119 incorrectly that we're getting kind of 814 00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:47,760 this inflation built in. Um and and so 815 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,679 that that one is a key one. And the 816 00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:53,200 other thing is new growth confuses them. 817 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,280 If you're, you know, if you're in a city 818 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,359 that has a lot [clears throat] of 819 00:34:57,359 --> 00:35:00,000 development, 820 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,280 um, that that is a bigger factor than if 821 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,280 you're in a Goldilock city. 822 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,520 >> Goldilocks, that's what 823 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,359 um, 824 00:35:11,359 --> 00:35:14,560 >> how then how that that plays out. Those 825 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,040 are the the two areas that I find I 826 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,359 spend the most time trying to explain 827 00:35:19,359 --> 00:35:21,520 >> when someone's upset. 828 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,670 one observations. 829 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,480 » How many Alexis, Roger? 830 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,084 >> Three. 831 00:35:30,084 --> 00:35:35,190 [laughter] 832 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,599 » A little more than two. What I do is I 833 00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:40,960 say this is the last 834 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,920 camera talks 835 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,000 but 836 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,400 I actually probably was one of the 837 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,040 architects vaccination because I think 838 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,480 the reason we have system we survived 839 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,359 what happened in California but I was 840 00:35:57,359 --> 00:35:58,800 going to say one of the things he's 841 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,480 emphasizing 842 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,280 property tax is the only tax is every 843 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,320 state passes I mean it's the only It's 844 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,839 the oldest tax everybody says it's 845 00:36:07,839 --> 00:36:09,599 adequate. It's the only one that's 846 00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:11,760 common every state. Now when I say 847 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,839 common, some states may do it different. 848 00:36:13,839 --> 00:36:15,520 I would argue California on the outer 849 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,079 fringes should be called approp. Every 850 00:36:18,079 --> 00:36:20,640 state has something to call 851 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,760 and it you debate how much of it is 852 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,720 local component and how much of it is 853 00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:29,200 mandated from the state and Utah has a 854 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,839 component of that above 855 00:36:31,839 --> 00:36:34,320 and of which the largest single levy is 856 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,800 actually a mandated levy by the state. 857 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,320 So it's one of the things that I don't 858 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,880 know how you interweave that discussion 859 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,599 but you have that element of the state 860 00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:46,400 doesn't impose a property tax. The state 861 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,320 just order school district to do certain 862 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,359 things. [clears throat] Um and then the 863 00:36:51,359 --> 00:36:56,950 other is that uh 864 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,040 in some ways become a self-fulfilling 865 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,800 prophecy about property tax when people 866 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,680 get upset about tax and they they barely 867 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,079 understand. But in truth, I don't know 868 00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:08,960 if we're any worse than anywhere else. 869 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,920 In fact, I would argue every year, and 870 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,880 Kim will always tell me the legislators 871 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,079 are saying this is the worst year 872 00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:18,160 they've ever seen it. And I tend to be 873 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,200 somewhere on how many times I've heard 874 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,520 that, but 875 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,520 I think social media has changed the 876 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,520 dimension of how how fast you can spread 877 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,119 about something. I think that dimension 878 00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:33,200 has changed. But the truth of the matter 879 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,160 is is for all the screening on we 880 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,560 basically have the same basic structure 881 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,440 just for 40 years. 882 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:48,320 >> I think it'd be good to to bring out the 45% discount that we are and 883 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:49,920 potentially compare that to states that 884 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,400 don't have that. Um because we have this 885 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,240 mentality from our residents that we are 886 00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:56,880 way overt taxed and how terrible this is 887 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,960 and the property taxes are so high and 888 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,400 yet every one of my clients that comes 889 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,960 in from anywhere else says oh my gosh 890 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,800 this is just amazing you know my 891 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,596 property taxes how much and uh it's a 892 00:38:08,596 --> 00:38:09,440 [clears throat] pretty big shock for 893 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,400 them realize it's that little 894 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:13,839 >> perfect thank you and then another thing 895 00:38:13,839 --> 00:38:15,440 I do want to note is one thing to 896 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,280 Roger's point about the news and social 897 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,359 media one thing we want to emphasize is 898 00:38:19,359 --> 00:38:21,599 when you see a percentage age on a 899 00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:23,599 property tax increase by an entity that 900 00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:26,240 doesn't mean your whole building by 20% 901 00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:28,720 or 10% right it's a segment of your bill 902 00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:31,040 so that will be within that as well area 903 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,000 where we see a lot of angst by residents 904 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,240 >> and I looking at the comment from Mayor 905 00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:38,000 Bernone it looks like that's along the 906 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,280 lines of what she's talking about um and 907 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,079 her comment there where yes people 908 00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:46,800 greatly misunderstand if we are doing a 909 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,359 10% at the city level it's not 10% of 910 00:38:49,359 --> 00:38:51,359 the 911 00:38:51,359 --> 00:38:52,880 I am looking forward to what they come 912 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,240 up with. And 913 00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:56,800 >> I applaud you. 914 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,400 >> Well, president, I'll add one other 915 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,200 piece here. The primary audience here is 916 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,839 the general public and to help 917 00:39:03,839 --> 00:39:06,480 supplement what you are already doing is 918 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,320 you're communicating with the with the 919 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:09,920 general public, but the secondary 920 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:14,079 audience is love and trying to in a user 921 00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:16,240 friendly way help them understand the 922 00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:19,520 property tax system as you. So, if you 923 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,040 have other thoughts of what else we 924 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,720 should emphasize, let us know. We've 925 00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:26,240 contracted to do 10 videos. This was our 926 00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:28,800 first crack at what those topics are. We 927 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,160 wanted to basically check in with the 928 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,920 board today. The goal to have these 929 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,720 ready this budget cycle so that you guys 930 00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:36,079 can use them if you're going to go 931 00:39:36,079 --> 00:39:38,480 through the taxation this year. So, time 932 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,960 is time is ticking to make sure we can 933 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,800 get them done, right? 934 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:43,760 >> Yes. [clears throat] And then another 935 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,200 thing that's worth mentioning, we will 936 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,359 be having some supplemental handouts as 937 00:39:47,359 --> 00:39:49,440 well because I know we have some of our 938 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,040 really, really small communities that 939 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,599 probably don't use social media as their 940 00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:55,680 main way to distribute information. And 941 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,040 one of those handouts, we're hoping to 942 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,640 make it easy to compare with your 943 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,240 property tax bill. So you can put this 944 00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:02,160 hand out next to your property tax bill 945 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,599 and it'll help you read through your 946 00:40:03,599 --> 00:40:05,680 property tax bill. So we're hoping to 947 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,160 have those ready by mid year as well so 948 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,880 they can be distributed. 949 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,400 Thank you, Mayor Burton and Mayor Bruno 950 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,240 and Council Densson for your for your 951 00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:17,920 comments and and Mayor Burton. Cassie 952 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,520 said this earlier. I just want to 953 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,359 emphasize that we know a lot of your 954 00:40:21,359 --> 00:40:23,040 teams do great communications in this 955 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,400 space. We gathered a lot of them as 956 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,040 examples, but if there are individuals 957 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,800 in your cities that you wanted to 958 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,079 connect with us, please do so and we can 959 00:40:32,079 --> 00:40:34,079 make sure we're all coordinated as much 960 00:40:34,079 --> 00:40:40,390 as possible. 961 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,440 That's everything we have for India. 962 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:44,960 Okay, 963 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,040 that case there's no other questions or 964 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,640 comments. Then we can move on to our 965 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,320 advocacy report by Cameron and Jonathan. 966 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,800 >> Perfect. I mentioned the board 967 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,200 objectives that you as a board have 968 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,079 adopted 969 00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:06,710 discrimination, 970 00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:08,560 advocacy and operations all have 971 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,000 different board objectives that you can 972 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,400 approve. So all you need to talk through 973 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,960 those three engagement and I'll turn it 974 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,760 over here to Justin to reference the two 975 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,839 objectives and then even though I 976 00:41:19,839 --> 00:41:21,200 mentioned at the beginning meeting today 977 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:22,640 is to set the stage for the inter we 978 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,079 also want to take a moment 979 00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:26,160 >> today and take a look back. So go ahead 980 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:26,480 Justin. 981 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,319 >> So yeah our objectives here we uh talked 982 00:41:28,319 --> 00:41:30,880 about these uh develop an a policy class 983 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,720 of priorities that focus on 984 00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:34,400 collaborative outcomes and respect for 985 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,319 the role of municipalities. 986 00:41:36,319 --> 00:41:38,880 um that say otherwise partnership not 987 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,280 option and and that's that really has 988 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,839 resonated um the last couple of years 989 00:41:43,839 --> 00:41:45,839 and this year um it's one of the 990 00:41:45,839 --> 00:41:47,760 takeaways a little bit lower but we 991 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,079 really did see fewer bills ultimately 992 00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:52,720 targeted at cities we tracked fewer 993 00:41:52,720 --> 00:41:54,640 bills this year than we tracked last 994 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,680 year and some of that um Mike and Alexa 995 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,560 both deserve a ton of credit because 996 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,400 they read through all of the bills to 997 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:03,760 see whether or not we should be tracking 998 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,440 them and whether or not they matter and 999 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,359 So, um, they were very good at at kind 1000 00:42:07,359 --> 00:42:09,040 of filtering things out, but there were 1001 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,960 ultimately also just fewer bills that 1002 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,440 impacted cities. Um, we were not the 1003 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,280 target this year, and that's not a bad 1004 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,119 thing at all. And then maximizing 1005 00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:19,200 political capital at the capital. Um, 1006 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,599 this is such a real thing. Um, we we 1007 00:42:21,599 --> 00:42:23,440 always talk aboutly, but there really 1008 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,920 is, you know, I don't know how to track 1009 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,880 it correctly. sort of just sense it. But 1010 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,400 there there is an amount of capital we 1011 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,240 have, an amount of asks we have, an 1012 00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:33,839 amount of things we can really shoot at 1013 00:42:33,839 --> 00:42:35,599 before, you know, they they stop 1014 00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:39,040 listening. And um last year at the end 1015 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,640 of the session, um we had no capital, 1016 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,800 particularly in one of the bodies that 1017 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,400 we had nothing left in the Senate last 1018 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,240 year. Uh this year, I would say we ended 1019 00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:51,520 the session with capital up to spend. Um 1020 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:52,960 uh this year was good from that 1021 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,000 perspective. Um, so, uh, one, if you 1022 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,560 didn't participate in the LPC wrapup, 1023 00:42:58,560 --> 00:42:59,920 um, if you want to go back and watch the 1024 00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:01,839 hour and a half video, but it it was 1025 00:43:01,839 --> 00:43:03,280 fascinating to go through every single 1026 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,440 bill that we talked about in LPC and we 1027 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,760 kind of gave the final disposition about 1028 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,560 what failed and what passed. Um, so just 1029 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:11,760 quick quiz, anybody know 1030 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,079 percentage-wise, how many bills that we 1031 00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:19,910 tracked failed this year? 1032 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:24,150 high percent. 1033 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:25,520 » Not that high. 1034 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:26,800 >> That would have been awesome. 1035 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,359 >> Uh it was about 53%. 1036 00:43:29,359 --> 00:43:30,880 So of everything that we tracked this 1037 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,359 year, more failed than passed and I 1038 00:43:33,359 --> 00:43:34,319 don't know that we've had that in the 1039 00:43:34,319 --> 00:43:36,000 last few years. So that was also kind of 1040 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,240 fascinating. Um we had and we're we want 1041 00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:39,680 to talk about this one of our discussion 1042 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,760 questions but we had record 1043 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,560 participation um as far as what online 1044 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,760 and inerson LBC just huge numbers of of 1045 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,920 those participating online um as well as 1046 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,599 the room we all know the rooms already 1047 00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:55,680 packed but the number online was even more this year and Cassie I 1048 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,440 want to make sure I get this right we 1049 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,680 had more individuals opening emails 1050 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:00,400 [clears throat] 1051 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,480 even though our open rate was down 1052 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:07,119 >> yeah so we had about on average 1053 00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:11,119 400 to 500 more opens a night compared 1054 00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:12,400 to last year. 1055 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,920 >> So again, 400 more opens a night. So a 1056 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,839 lot of people getting one of the uh one 1057 00:44:17,839 --> 00:44:19,040 of the interesting things we also found 1058 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,359 out during this is the session we did 1059 00:44:21,359 --> 00:44:23,839 those kind of LPC recap videos or 1060 00:44:23,839 --> 00:44:26,560 midweek videos um that we try to do in 1061 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:27,920 three minutes or under and we never 1062 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,800 quite hit. But um we've had a legisle 1063 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,119 from watching those videos. Um I start I 1064 00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:34,319 had some legislators at the end of the 1065 00:44:34,319 --> 00:44:36,000 session. I called and said, "Oh yeah, I 1066 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,680 watch your videos, you know, during the 1067 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,280 week so I know what's going on." And 1068 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:42,720 so that was fascinating that some 1069 00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:44,560 legislators are watching our videos. So 1070 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,560 you get the update of what's going on 1071 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,640 with something. So um that was 1072 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,280 fascinating. Um affordability was a huge 1073 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,200 component of what was talked about this 1074 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,000 year from child care to energy to fuel 1075 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,920 taxes obviously to property tax and 1076 00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,920 everything else. a big component of what 1077 00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:01,520 they talked about this year and we knew 1078 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,119 that going into the session that really 1079 00:45:03,119 --> 00:45:05,280 stayed true throughout the session. And 1080 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,160 then it's an election year and and it's 1081 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,400 always fascinating to see what bills 1082 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,240 pass or are presented during an election 1083 00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:14,960 year and what goes down. Um and the 1084 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,319 important thing to remember is next year 1085 00:45:16,319 --> 00:45:20,000 is not an election year. So I won't 1086 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,200 predict that all these trends are going 1087 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,359 to hold true next year that maybe held 1088 00:45:23,359 --> 00:45:26,560 true this year. Um so what didn't 1089 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:27,839 happen? There was a lot of things that 1090 00:45:27,839 --> 00:45:29,680 didn't pass and water is one of the big 1091 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,839 ones. Um, do we have the clip from the 1092 00:45:31,839 --> 00:45:34,640 governor's news conference on that one? 1093 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,720 Or if not, that's all right. We'll run 1094 00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:37,760 the phone. 1095 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,240 >> That's okay. Um, the governor mentioned 1096 00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:41,839 this last week in his monthly news 1097 00:45:41,839 --> 00:45:43,359 conference when someone asked him what 1098 00:45:43,359 --> 00:45:44,720 is the water year going to look like 1099 00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:48,079 this year. Um, and he said not great is 1100 00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:50,400 basically takeaway. Um, the soil is 1101 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,480 fairly saturated saturated right now 1102 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,880 which is good. It means water that does 1103 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,520 run off should go to the reservoirs. Um 1104 00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:58,960 it won't seep into the ground because 1105 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,359 we've actually had a very wet wet last 1106 00:46:01,359 --> 00:46:03,440 couple of months, but the snow pack is 1107 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,079 bad, which means water year is going to 1108 00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:08,240 be a little bit rough. We had like one 1109 00:46:08,240 --> 00:46:09,599 good year there, but we're going to be 1110 00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:10,880 back to where we were a couple of years 1111 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,000 ago. Um and so the question was, are we 1112 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,839 going to have d drought declarations? 1113 00:46:15,839 --> 00:46:16,880 Are we going to have emergency 1114 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,400 declarations? Are we going to have 1115 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:19,520 things like that? And the answer is 1116 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,760 probably yes. at some point during the 1117 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,000 year um we will have some declarations 1118 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,680 and that will meet uh potential 1119 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,240 mandatory cutbacks on certain things. Uh 1120 00:46:28,240 --> 00:46:29,599 so one of the things that we're planning 1121 00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:32,480 on doing um well let me back up. So what 1122 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,119 didn't happen with water like very few 1123 00:46:35,119 --> 00:46:38,240 water bills passed this last session um 1124 00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:40,079 if you look at the water section in that 1125 00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:42,800 wrap up everything from 501 which is the 1126 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,880 fee increase on down to some of the 1127 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,640 conser everything failed. Water stuff 1128 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,920 just failed all over the place. Um but 1129 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,359 it's something that we're going to need 1130 00:46:51,359 --> 00:46:53,280 to talk about particularly this year and 1131 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,079 looking forward. So um we we thought it 1132 00:46:56,079 --> 00:46:58,319 was very successful that our last 1133 00:46:58,319 --> 00:47:00,720 caucuses at at our conference when we 1134 00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:01,920 just talked about the state housing 1135 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,000 plan. Uh we had Laura Hansen there 1136 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,520 talking about the state housing plan. 1137 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,119 Every caucus we went through that and 1138 00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:09,200 got really good feedback. Um we thought 1139 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,040 that was really a good way of handling 1140 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,319 caucuses. Uh so our plan for the midyear 1141 00:47:14,319 --> 00:47:17,680 caucus is to have uh Brian Seid Grace 1142 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,280 all the commissioner and then the USU 1143 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,440 Institute of Land Water and Error uh 1144 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,040 come 1145 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,000 >> the Lorax 1146 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,359 >> and the Lorax of the lake 1147 00:47:27,359 --> 00:47:30,800 third one um we're planning to have them 1148 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,040 at each of the caucuses to talk through 1149 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,240 what water looks like uh coming forward 1150 00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:38,400 uh going forward this year where we're 1151 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,720 really at as a state with water. Uh when 1152 00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:43,119 Brian came to our LPC, we had more 1153 00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:46,640 questions for Brian than we had for the Senate President, the Speaker of the 1154 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,960 House, or Senator Curtis. People had a 1155 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,800 lot of questions for Brian. And so our 1156 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,040 plan for caucuses is to break up and 1157 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,800 talk about water. Uh one of the things 1158 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:55,839 we're trying to figure out is exactly 1159 00:47:55,839 --> 00:47:58,160 how we break those caucuses up. Um 1160 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,240 because southern Utah very different 1161 00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:02,400 than than northern Utah, Great Salt Lake 1162 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,079 is very different than the Virgin River 1163 00:48:04,079 --> 00:48:05,599 as far as the water needs and what's 1164 00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:07,599 going on there. So caucuses may look a 1165 00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:08,800 little bit different as far as how we 1166 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,760 break those up. Um Goldilock conference, 1167 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,359 I don't know who has who has just the 1168 00:48:13,359 --> 00:48:14,480 right amount of water. I don't know who 1169 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:18,160 that that caucus is, but um there's 1170 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,680 definitely I don't know if anyone has 1171 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:20,160 too much. 1172 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:21,359 >> I don't know that anyone in the state 1173 00:48:21,359 --> 00:48:22,960 has just the right 1174 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,599 >> it's just a little too more than a 1175 00:48:25,599 --> 00:48:29,359 little too. But so that is our plan for caucuses is to to bring Brian and 1176 00:48:29,359 --> 00:48:30,960 his team. they've already committed to 1177 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,079 do this and we're going to talk about 1178 00:48:32,079 --> 00:48:35,520 water and be able to have some really um 1179 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:36,880 both specific and very blunt 1180 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,400 conversations about what water looks 1181 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,559 like and people be able to ask and 1182 00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:43,359 answer questions there. Um so any 1183 00:48:43,359 --> 00:48:44,640 questions about that one? That's that's 1184 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:45,440 going to be a thing we're going to need 1185 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,040 to talk about. Water is going to be a 1186 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,040 big deal this year. Um and it's going 1187 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,079 Yeah, mayor please. the combination of 1188 00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:54,079 additional pressure for growth and 1189 00:48:54,079 --> 00:48:56,559 building more houses and the increasing 1190 00:48:56,559 --> 00:48:58,319 lack of water. Is that going to be 1191 00:48:58,319 --> 00:48:59,040 combined? 1192 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:00,480 >> That is one of the things Brian Yeah, 1193 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,559 happy to talk about. Yeah, I've talked 1194 00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:04,960 about that with him before. We we 1195 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,680 actually the mayor last week we went to 1196 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,520 a stage two which is volunteer for 1197 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,760 everybody but 10% from all state 1198 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,480 governments in in so 1199 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,720 state local federal governments in Salt 1200 00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:19,280 Lake City 10% reduction in their water 1201 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,280 use but volunteer everybody else that 1202 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,480 was mayor 1203 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,960 and was released last week. Justin, I 1204 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,319 think you're probably already aware of 1205 00:49:28,319 --> 00:49:30,319 this that there's going to be certain 1206 00:49:30,319 --> 00:49:31,599 communities that are going to want to 1207 00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:34,400 have conversations about reuse and 1208 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:35,680 aquafer recharge. 1209 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:36,079 >> Yes. 1210 00:49:36,079 --> 00:49:38,880 >> Um, and some of those are, 1211 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,240 you know, there's definitely a northern 1212 00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:41,594 Utah County group and there's 1213 00:49:41,594 --> 00:49:42,480 [clears throat] another Davis County 1214 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,400 group that have 1215 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,319 >> concerns with those areas. 1216 00:49:46,319 --> 00:49:47,760 >> Yep. So, I don't know if there's a way 1217 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,160 to if you're reimagining different 1218 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,480 groups, caucuses. 1219 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,000 Well, and that's that's yeah, that is a 1220 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,040 good because we've been trying to figure 1221 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,160 this out because one, we talked about 1222 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,319 doing by watershed, but you bring up my 1223 00:49:58,319 --> 00:50:01,760 subject. Um, I think I think it would be 1224 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,520 wild to not do something where southern 1225 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,079 Utah has its own thing because they're 1226 00:50:06,079 --> 00:50:07,440 just such a different beast, especially 1227 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,520 with water. But yeah, having having a 1228 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,599 reef use aquifer or something like that. 1229 00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:13,119 Um, so if anyone has thoughts about 1230 00:50:13,119 --> 00:50:15,359 that, just different ways of breaking 1231 00:50:15,359 --> 00:50:18,000 that out by congressional district by 1232 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,680 congressional district whatever those 1233 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,119 are. I don't know what those are going 1234 00:50:21,119 --> 00:50:24,240 to be. Let's let's use slido and draw 1235 00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:31,109 our own map. [laughter] 1236 00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:33,339 » Okay. I I resend my question. Um 1237 00:50:33,339 --> 00:50:35,359 [laughter] 1238 00:50:35,359 --> 00:50:39,040 >> still the end of legislature just 1239 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,640 >> going back to end of legislator. So we 1240 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,800 do get some feedback. So one thing 1241 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,280 another thing that didn't happen um we 1242 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:46,480 didn't get the bill that we thought we 1243 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,800 might get um on amendment D. It's not 1244 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,559 amendment D but that's our short at this 1245 00:50:50,559 --> 00:50:53,760 point. This is the bill that would be um 1246 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,800 shoring up um initiative and referendum 1247 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,119 power. The ability to make changes if 1248 00:50:59,119 --> 00:51:02,000 something is passed by initiative um 1249 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,280 potentially referendum depending what 1250 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:04,800 they want to do but by initiative. This 1251 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,960 is one where we saw special session a 1252 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,040 year and a half ago where they um passed 1253 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,119 what would ultimately become amendment D 1254 00:51:11,119 --> 00:51:13,200 and then the court shot this down. So if 1255 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,720 you remember we had a lot of discussions 1256 00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:17,440 as as both a board uh we talked about 1257 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,480 this at our uh annual conference. We had 1258 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,880 a webinar on this, but we get put in a 1259 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,280 very interesting political spot when 1260 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,280 something is a ballot proposition 1261 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,920 because we cannot expend any public 1262 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,760 funds for a political purpose and 1263 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,200 political purpose is anything that's on 1264 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,440 the ballot. So, we had a lot of pressure 1265 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,240 from legislative leadership asking us to 1266 00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:40,720 weigh in to take positions um on 1267 00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:42,640 amendment D and we were all say because 1268 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,559 of a we can't do that. Uh 2011 1203 uh 1269 00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:48,960 we can't weigh in, we can't do that. We 1270 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,040 expect there to be pressure again um 1271 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,640 when something comes out. It didn't come 1272 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,599 out during session. Um we expect it to 1273 00:51:55,599 --> 00:51:57,040 come out at some point during a special 1274 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:58,400 session. President Adams has said 1275 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,319 specifically this is something we expect 1276 00:52:00,319 --> 00:52:02,319 to see. So this is one that didn't come 1277 00:52:02,319 --> 00:52:03,839 out during session. We expect to come up 1278 00:52:03,839 --> 00:52:05,599 during the interim and when it does, 1279 00:52:05,599 --> 00:52:06,800 we'll have to have some discussions 1280 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,040 around um what that looks like 1281 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,920 politically. Um how we take a position 1282 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,440 because we can take a position on a 1283 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,000 bill. We just can't take a position once 1284 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,200 it's a ballot proposition. So, um, this 1285 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:20,079 is something we'll have to deal with. 1286 00:52:20,079 --> 00:52:21,280 We've been kind of teasing this for the 1287 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,480 last year and a half. Um, 1288 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,079 it'll probably come this intro though. 1289 00:52:26,079 --> 00:52:28,880 So, Justin, one one last thing to add to 1290 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,400 this. When Justin was saying we, he's 1291 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,040 referencing the league, but you as 1292 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,760 individual elected officials 1293 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,920 >> can take a position for against a ballot 1294 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:42,549 proposition. 1295 00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:44,640 » That's right. So [clears throat] the 1296 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,280 league may say here's here are the 1297 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:48,400 reasons for and against the belt 1298 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:49,680 proposition but we're not taking a 1299 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,760 position on it. We can take a position 1300 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,000 on the bill that facilitates it 1301 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,839 >> and then once it become once it goes on 1302 00:52:55,839 --> 00:52:59,520 the ballot then mayor Palmer as Lauren 1303 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,240 Palmer as mayor of Herman you personally 1304 00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:04,960 can take a position and you should 1305 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,400 expect those phone calls from 1306 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,079 legislators 1307 00:53:08,079 --> 00:53:10,880 Mark Shepard mayor of Clearfield. 1308 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,720 you should expect those phone calls from 1309 00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:15,280 legislators asking you to weigh in. So, 1310 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,680 nothing to debate right now, but just 1311 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,200 situational awareness as we're setting 1312 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:20,319 the stage for them. 1313 00:53:20,319 --> 00:53:22,240 >> Yep. And then we do want to get some 1314 00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:24,160 feedback on a few a few questions here 1315 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,160 and um I know we've got Tyler coming a 1316 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:30,000 few minutes. So, um but before that, uh 1317 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,280 Carson, I know we've got some slides 1318 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,000 that we do want to share. Um I'll kick 1319 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,119 it to you and then we'll get to these 1320 00:53:35,119 --> 00:53:36,160 questions. 1321 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,000 >> Thank you. And this will be a Cassidy 1322 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,240 and I and we wanted just briefly just to 1323 00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:41,760 mention some of the the member 1324 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,200 engagement that we had through LPC 1325 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,040 through the session. We just wanted to 1326 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,640 kind of a high level demonstrate what 1327 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,240 that actually looks like, how we're 1328 00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:49,680 trying to break down the data a little 1329 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,800 bit more granularly to be able to um see 1330 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,440 how we can boost more LPC engagement and 1331 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,240 how we can um better use the 1332 00:53:58,240 --> 00:53:59,839 communication tools that we have to 1333 00:53:59,839 --> 00:54:02,240 inform members and and help them engage. 1334 00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:04,960 So, Cassidy, I'll turn it over to you 1335 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:06,400 for the first couple of these. 1336 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,599 >> Yeah, we'll go really fast. So, um, open 1337 00:54:09,599 --> 00:54:12,079 rate, we go one more, Carson. 1338 00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:12,559 >> Yeah. 1339 00:54:12,559 --> 00:54:15,520 >> Oh, just kidding. Go back. I lied. 49%. 1340 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,440 This is like 3% lower than last year, 1341 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,760 except as Justin mentioned earlier, we 1342 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,119 have a lot more people opening our 1343 00:54:21,119 --> 00:54:23,440 nightly emails. So, we have really 1344 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:24,800 enjoyed seeing those numbers stay 1345 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,319 stable. I was really nervous last year 1346 00:54:26,319 --> 00:54:28,000 because we had a lot of double emails in 1347 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,520 our account as everyone was switching 1348 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,119 from.org.com 1349 00:54:31,119 --> 00:54:33,280 to.gov. up. I deleted a lot of those and 1350 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,280 we still have a great open rate. So, 1351 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,200 thank you for opening our email. Our 1352 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,280 next slide will kind of show you how 1353 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,240 many people are opening individual 1354 00:54:42,240 --> 00:54:45,119 numbers of emails. So, we sent about 30 1355 00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:48,079 emails um over legislative session. So, 1356 00:54:48,079 --> 00:54:49,599 we have a lot of people who may not be 1357 00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:51,280 opening any even though I give them an 1358 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,599 option to opt out every year. They 1359 00:54:53,599 --> 00:54:55,599 don't. And then we have quite a big 1360 00:54:55,599 --> 00:54:57,280 chunk of people opening every single 1361 00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:01,440 email. Um, you may be wondering, do LPC 1362 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,839 voting members open more emails than our 1363 00:55:03,839 --> 00:55:06,160 general population? 1364 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,839 They do not. The trend is actually very 1365 00:55:07,839 --> 00:55:10,240 similar. So, LPC membership is actually 1366 00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:11,839 really reflective of the rest of our 1367 00:55:11,839 --> 00:55:14,160 membership in terms of like technical 1368 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,000 involvement within what we do, which I 1369 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,680 thought was really interesting. All 1370 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,440 right, Carson, you can keep going. Do 1371 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,440 you think Oh, if you get the LPC members 1372 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,040 mind because they were there for the 1373 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,000 updates in LPC. 1374 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,440 So, one thing I noticed, and we're going 1375 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,599 to talk about this in a second, is 1376 00:55:29,599 --> 00:55:32,640 Justin's recap video of LPC had a lot 1377 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,079 less views than last year, but this year 1378 00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:37,119 I really worked hard to get LPC on our 1379 00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:39,200 nightly email. So then people could go 1380 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,520 back to the actual LPC meeting to find 1381 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:42,960 something they may have missed or zoned 1382 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,599 out for versus just hearing the from 1383 00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:48,559 Justin. Um, 1384 00:55:48,559 --> 00:55:50,160 if Carson, you go to the next side, I 1385 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,480 also did this big long chart dividing it 1386 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,799 out by what open rates look like for by 1387 00:55:54,799 --> 00:55:57,119 city or town. So, we have a collection 1388 00:55:57,119 --> 00:55:59,760 of emails for each city or town. So, for 1389 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,119 some of our cities and towns, that's 1390 00:56:01,119 --> 00:56:02,640 just the elected officials. For others, 1391 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,880 it's like I might have their water guy 1392 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,359 on there. I might have their events 1393 00:56:07,359 --> 00:56:08,720 person on there and just kind of like 1394 00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:10,400 how many emails are opening. So, this is 1395 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,480 kind of the top range of the list. And 1396 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,400 if you look at the line, that's like the 1397 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,520 50% of the data. And that means 50% are 1398 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,760 opening less than that line or 50% of 1399 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,960 the number of we have are opening more. 1400 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,400 So we have all these different bars of 1401 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:25,839 kind of like the range and obviously 1402 00:56:25,839 --> 00:56:27,680 their sample size also kind of impacts 1403 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,240 that. Um something I will note is we do 1404 00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:31,680 have a collection of cities that have an 1405 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,920 o midline like their average is opening 1406 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,640 less than in this case 15 emails. So 1407 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,359 we're averaging about 10. However, as 1408 00:56:39,359 --> 00:56:41,920 long as I see an outlier or the bar 1409 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,480 extend to the full 30, I'm not worried. 1410 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:45,680 Right? So, for example, in 1411 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,520 Taylor'sville, I know John Histy is 1412 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,680 gonna open every single email. 1413 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:50,240 >> That's true. 1414 00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:51,760 >> He told me that he does this. He opens 1415 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,440 every single email and then he copy 1416 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,040 sections that might affect other members 1417 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,440 of his staff and sends them that to get 1418 00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,680 feedback. So, if I'm seeing that in some 1419 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,000 of our smaller cities or towns, I feel 1420 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,520 pretty good about what our cities and 1421 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,760 towns are receiving. So, something Molly 1422 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:06,960 and I will be doing is we're going to go 1423 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:08,559 through this list and kind of see cities 1424 00:57:08,559 --> 00:57:10,480 or towns that may be struggling with 1425 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:11,680 participating with us during the 1426 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,040 legislative session and do some 1427 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,880 additional outreach there. And I know 1428 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:16,000 you all want to know where your cities 1429 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:16,960 are. We can talk about that. 1430 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,040 >> Yes, I try to zoom in. 1431 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:20,960 >> I know it's small on purpose just so you 1432 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,400 can kind of get like an overview. 1433 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,240 Now, I'm zooming in. Okay. 1434 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:27,680 >> All right. You move on to the next 1435 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,319 slide. We also saw an increase in our 1436 00:57:30,319 --> 00:57:32,400 open rates in the Senate and the House 1437 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,319 when we send them emails saying, "Hey, 1438 00:57:34,319 --> 00:57:36,559 vote yes or vote no on this bill, which 1439 00:57:36,559 --> 00:57:38,240 I was actually very surprised by in the 1440 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:39,760 Senate because we haven't seen a lot of 1441 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,680 turnover in the Senate." So, back to 1442 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,200 Justin's point about our political 1443 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:44,240 capital. 1444 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,319 >> You kind of see that increased videos. 1445 00:57:46,319 --> 00:57:47,599 We can go ahead and skip through this. 1446 00:57:47,599 --> 00:57:49,599 is kind of like our recap and stuff 1447 00:57:49,599 --> 00:57:51,680 like that. We tend to get a lot of views 1448 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,839 on social media, but we also get a solid 1449 00:57:53,839 --> 00:57:56,160 like 40 views on each video that we do, 1450 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,480 which typically is one of us testifying 1451 00:57:58,480 --> 00:57:59,599 in committee or one of you guys 1452 00:57:59,599 --> 00:58:01,920 testifying in committee. Our traffic was 1453 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,599 up a little bit. You'll see big jumps on 1454 00:58:03,599 --> 00:58:05,280 Mondays. I think a lot of that is from 1455 00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,720 LPC on Monday and bill tracker. 1456 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,880 >> Uh, keep going 1457 00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,119 LPC. So, we have a lot of stats on 1458 00:58:13,119 --> 00:58:15,680 what's happening via Zoom during our 1459 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,839 LPCs. So what this chart is showing you 1460 00:58:17,839 --> 00:58:20,720 is the duration of the meeting and how 1461 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,160 many people are on the meeting. 1462 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:23,599 >> Sorry, did you do also by how long the 1463 00:58:23,599 --> 00:58:27,510 meeting is supposed to last 1464 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,040 we kept on track. We actually like 1465 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,680 finished on time and then after that 1466 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:32,240 >> Yeah, 1467 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:33,359 >> you can see where we end the meeting, 1468 00:58:33,359 --> 00:58:35,359 but you could see the slow drop off as 1469 00:58:35,359 --> 00:58:37,200 people are like, "All right, I'm out of 1470 00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:38,400 this meeting." But I honestly thought 1471 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:39,760 the line would be sharper. 1472 00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,119 >> Yeah. And this is important. We thought 1473 00:58:41,119 --> 00:58:42,720 we were going to lose more people. We 1474 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:43,920 thought the drop off would be harder 1475 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,319 when we were supposed to end. And It's 1476 00:58:46,319 --> 00:58:47,680 not that hard. 1477 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,200 >> It's a train wreck. You cannot look 1478 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,549 away. [laughter] 1479 00:58:52,559 --> 00:58:56,640 » Seth said is a train wreck. Got it. 1480 00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,520 >> And obviously like we only have a 1481 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,920 lot of questions. 1482 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,200 >> But it was very interesting to see kind 1483 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:04,799 of like how this is trending online, 1484 00:59:04,799 --> 00:59:06,400 especially when we're having more people 1485 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,319 attending online than we are in the 1486 00:59:08,319 --> 00:59:10,319 room. Um, 1487 00:59:10,319 --> 00:59:12,079 >> looks like we have a question from Mayor 1488 00:59:12,079 --> 00:59:19,349 Bill Wright. 1489 00:59:19,359 --> 00:59:21,931 I was on mute. Sorry. I I going back 1490 00:59:21,931 --> 00:59:27,520 [clears throat] to that opening uh the rate. I did not see at Pac City on 1491 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,760 there. Maybe I missed it, but I just was 1492 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,480 wondering why we were not on there if uh 1493 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:33,040 >> we're not. 1494 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:37,839 >> So, Mayor, we have over what 27 1495 00:59:37,839 --> 00:59:41,119 communities. They'll have sample 1496 00:59:41,119 --> 00:59:42,480 the number for you and I will send it to 1497 00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:43,760 you after this meeting. 1498 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,599 >> Okay, that's fine. I just would I was 1499 00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:47,200 just just was checking. 1500 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:48,640 >> Yeah, it's not comprehensive. Just a 1501 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,640 sample. Okay, wonderful. 1502 00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,400 >> I tried to put it on a print out and it 1503 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,319 wouldn't even fit on a tablet size page. 1504 00:59:54,319 --> 00:59:55,920 So, I want 1505 00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,319 >> your inner cass saying this is too much. 1506 00:59:58,319 --> 00:59:59,359 >> Yes, 1507 00:59:59,359 --> 01:00:00,559 >> it's too much. 1508 01:00:00,559 --> 01:00:03,599 >> She can't get after us if she does. 1509 01:00:03,599 --> 01:00:05,440 >> Standard example. 1510 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:06,880 >> Okay. I think this is the point you're 1511 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,799 making. Sorry. 1512 01:00:08,799 --> 01:00:10,160 I think this is the point you're making. 1513 01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:14,240 That's an incredible stick to it. 1514 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:14,720 >> Yeah, 1515 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,160 >> I think I think that speaks. 1516 01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:17,280 >> It didn't matter how long we went, 1517 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,119 people suffer. 1518 01:00:19,119 --> 01:00:22,799 >> We should validate what we should have. 1519 01:00:22,799 --> 01:00:24,720 >> We should not take advantage of that. 1520 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:26,559 is what I'm trying to tell you. 1521 01:00:26,559 --> 01:00:28,079 >> And then our next slide kind of shows 1522 01:00:28,079 --> 01:00:29,599 like how many people are repeat 1523 01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:31,839 attendees. So if for the beauties they 1524 01:00:31,839 --> 01:00:33,440 signed up, how many attended six? And 1525 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,920 you'll see how the number of have I 1526 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:37,839 Okay, let me rephrase that and think of 1527 01:00:37,839 --> 01:00:40,160 all my thoughts here. I wondered if you 1528 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,000 went to less meetings if you spent less 1529 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,000 time in the meetings overall. Right? So, 1530 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:45,599 what this chart is showing you is how 1531 01:00:45,599 --> 01:00:47,359 many people 1532 01:00:47,359 --> 01:00:50,240 who were on Zoom attended all six and 1533 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,559 for what amount of time they were on 1534 01:00:52,559 --> 01:00:54,400 there. So, we kind of see a little bit 1535 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:55,760 more variation in that. And you'll see 1536 01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,520 there's quite a few zeros at the bottom. 1537 01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,680 I think that's our hybrid attendees. So 1538 01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:01,440 some of you may sign up for the meeting 1539 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,680 just to get it on your calendar and then 1540 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,520 you attend in person, right? So like I 1541 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:06,880 would count as one of those points at 1542 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:08,799 the zero minute line because I don't 1543 01:01:08,799 --> 01:01:10,799 sign in with my Zoom like now I sign up 1544 01:01:10,799 --> 01:01:13,359 with questions. So we're kind of seeing 1545 01:01:13,359 --> 01:01:15,440 like a lot of people they commit and 1546 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,480 come to some portion of all six meetings 1547 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,880 and then you can move to the next slide. 1548 01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:24,079 This is where our online attendees live. 1549 01:01:24,079 --> 01:01:25,359 And I think this is important because 1550 01:01:25,359 --> 01:01:28,000 LPC online is not just for people who 1551 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:29,680 are outside of the shed of maybe what 1552 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,280 would be acceptable to come to the 1553 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,359 capital, right? It's everyone in every 1554 01:01:33,359 --> 01:01:35,280 city. 1555 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,359 And then I think the next one, Carson, 1556 01:01:37,359 --> 01:01:38,400 is you. 1557 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,160 >> Yeah. And I'll be quick on this. We 1558 01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:41,680 wanted to do a quick sort of follow-up 1559 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,839 survey that we launched last week, two 1560 01:01:43,839 --> 01:01:46,079 weeks ago. Um, and the purpose of that 1561 01:01:46,079 --> 01:01:48,799 was to try to just get more just direct 1562 01:01:48,799 --> 01:01:50,559 feedback from members who participated 1563 01:01:50,559 --> 01:01:53,280 in LPC and just try to get their 1564 01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,839 thoughts on sort of just LPC logistics 1565 01:01:55,839 --> 01:01:58,640 and we wanted to know how how effective 1566 01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:00,079 they felt the meetings were. So, first 1567 01:02:00,079 --> 01:02:01,920 we asked how many meetings do people 1568 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:03,760 attend 1569 01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:07,359 and of the respondents um all of them 1570 01:02:07,359 --> 01:02:09,599 attended at least five if and a majority 1571 01:02:09,599 --> 01:02:11,599 of them attended seven. So, really 1572 01:02:11,599 --> 01:02:13,280 impressed by that. I know it's a lot of 1573 01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,200 time to take after this week, but I 1574 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:16,640 think that shows how dedicated people 1575 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:20,400 were to participating. Um, we have we 1576 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,079 wanted to know has a lot of great 1577 01:02:22,079 --> 01:02:24,880 analytics for how many people attend. We 1578 01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:26,799 wanted to get a sense of how many people 1579 01:02:26,799 --> 01:02:29,119 attend in person online. We haven't done 1580 01:02:29,119 --> 01:02:32,480 any uh any real robust analysis on this 1581 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,359 data yet, but kind of at face value. And 1582 01:02:35,359 --> 01:02:36,720 I do think it's interesting that a lot 1583 01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,280 of most people were online or in person 1584 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,040 primarily. they didn't really only a 1585 01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:42,720 handful of people said that they kind of 1586 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,200 mixed it up and did either one. Um, so I 1587 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:46,240 thought that was kind of interesting 1588 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,000 where people have a kind of a clear 1589 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:49,119 preference in how they wanted to 1590 01:02:49,119 --> 01:02:51,599 participate. 1591 01:02:51,599 --> 01:02:53,920 >> Going back to that, I mean twothirds are 1592 01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,160 primarily online, which is going to get 1593 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:57,520 to our third discussion question here in 1594 01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,240 a second, but that's changing over the 1595 01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:00,799 years. 1596 01:03:00,799 --> 01:03:03,200 >> Yeah. Yep. Um, we wanted to know how 1597 01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:04,880 often people reached out to legislators. 1598 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,440 And I think the good news is that um, 1599 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:08,960 most people were reaching out pretty 1600 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,760 regularly, at least five times. Um, only 1601 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:13,359 two people said that they responded 1602 01:03:13,359 --> 01:03:15,119 every day. Um, I'm guessing some of 1603 01:03:15,119 --> 01:03:17,359 those are in this room, 1604 01:03:17,359 --> 01:03:20,000 but most people were at least five 1605 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:23,440 times. Many people were every meeting. 1606 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,760 Um, only a handful handful of people 1607 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,039 said that they never reached out to 1608 01:03:27,039 --> 01:03:28,559 their legislators. I want to bring that 1609 01:03:28,559 --> 01:03:31,359 out about between um voting members and 1610 01:03:31,359 --> 01:03:32,880 non- voting members because we have a 1611 01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:34,799 fair amount of people who participate in 1612 01:03:34,799 --> 01:03:38,240 LPC and um maybe their staff and they're 1613 01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,079 not really maybe a senior level where 1614 01:03:40,079 --> 01:03:41,359 they feel comfortable reaching out on 1615 01:03:41,359 --> 01:03:43,280 behalf of the city uh but they just 1616 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,359 wanted to be informed and involved. Um 1617 01:03:45,359 --> 01:03:46,559 what I think is really interesting is 1618 01:03:46,559 --> 01:03:48,559 that non- voting members they're much 1619 01:03:48,559 --> 01:03:50,799 more likely to reach out to legislators 1620 01:03:50,799 --> 01:03:52,640 more frequently than non- voting 1621 01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,119 members. So I think that um that kind of 1622 01:03:55,119 --> 01:03:58,160 speaks to the ownership that voting and 1623 01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,880 participating in that way uh gives gives 1624 01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,760 our LPC members. So um 1625 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:07,440 >> so correct. So it's interesting. So LPC 1626 01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,359 voting members or nonLPC members aren't 1627 01:04:09,359 --> 01:04:10,880 necessarily opening emails at a greater 1628 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,039 rates but the LPC members are reaching 1629 01:04:13,039 --> 01:04:14,720 out to legislators at greater rate and 1630 01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:15,839 that is interesting. 1631 01:04:15,839 --> 01:04:17,200 >> Yeah. 1632 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,359 Um, and then we wanted to know how 1633 01:04:19,359 --> 01:04:21,119 people whether people felt like the 1634 01:04:21,119 --> 01:04:22,799 meetings were engaging. And we didn't 1635 01:04:22,799 --> 01:04:24,640 have a lot of definition here. We just 1636 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,160 wanted to see what people's general 1637 01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,480 assignment was. And we know that the 1638 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:29,760 meetings were long. We know that there's 1639 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:31,200 a lot of information covered. And I 1640 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:32,880 think as staff, our eyes are kind of 1641 01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:34,960 glazed over 1642 01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,039 the presenting. But um I think it's 1643 01:04:37,039 --> 01:04:39,599 really positive that everybody said that 1644 01:04:39,599 --> 01:04:41,440 they strongly 1645 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,599 that the meetings during the session 1646 01:04:43,599 --> 01:04:46,000 were engaging and um so we'll keep kind 1647 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:47,039 of digging into the data a little bit 1648 01:04:47,039 --> 01:04:48,640 more try to explore that but I think 1649 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,680 this um is really a positive data point 1650 01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:53,520 for us shows that the time is worthwhile 1651 01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,760 for members. Uh Carson, on that survey 1652 01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,680 question, we had the ability to say 1653 01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,599 disagree, right? 1654 01:04:59,599 --> 01:05:01,520 >> Nobody did. Yeah. I want to make sure we 1655 01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:04,160 didn't like fake that. 1656 01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,119 >> You have to be informed. 1657 01:05:07,119 --> 01:05:07,920 [clears throat] 1658 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,240 >> The last one I want to mention is that 1659 01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,000 um we asked whether people felt more 1660 01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:13,359 informed or less informed because again, 1661 01:05:13,359 --> 01:05:15,200 I know that like coming out of a 1662 01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,200 two-hour long tense meeting sometimes 1663 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:20,400 you're just like overwhelmed. Um but I 1664 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,359 think yeah again this majority of people 1665 01:05:23,359 --> 01:05:25,680 99% said that they felt more informed 1666 01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,400 after uh or better informed about what 1667 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,400 was happening at the capital after LPC 1668 01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,799 meetings. So um glad to see that and 1669 01:05:32,799 --> 01:05:35,119 again people could chose to disagree but 1670 01:05:35,119 --> 01:05:38,000 um nobody did. So yeah, we'll keep kind 1671 01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,559 of diving into this data and trying to 1672 01:05:40,559 --> 01:05:42,000 pick out some more trends, try to pick 1673 01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:43,280 out some more recommendations going 1674 01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,760 forward about ways to make LPC more 1675 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:47,839 meaningful, more actionable and give 1676 01:05:47,839 --> 01:05:49,839 members feel like they have a stronger 1677 01:05:49,839 --> 01:05:52,799 voice in the process. Um, but I think 1678 01:05:52,799 --> 01:05:54,480 the kind of the initial results are 1679 01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:56,640 really positive and there's been 1680 01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,480 realities of the session that we just 1681 01:05:58,480 --> 01:05:59,839 can't really like there were just so 1682 01:05:59,839 --> 01:06:02,240 many bills to talk about. There's not a 1683 01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,240 lot we could do with the panel, but I 1684 01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,319 think overall we feel pretty good about 1685 01:06:06,319 --> 01:06:09,680 the initial takeways and feeling session 1686 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:11,839 was a success. So, are there any quick 1687 01:06:11,839 --> 01:06:13,760 questions about that before we jump into 1688 01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:17,910 the discussion items? 1689 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:19,680 » Okay, perfect. So, we get we've thrown a 1690 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:21,119 lot of stuff at you there, which is what 1691 01:06:21,119 --> 01:06:23,200 we always do. um but do want some 1692 01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:24,880 discussion back and I'm going to take 1693 01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:26,400 these questions in reverse order based 1694 01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,799 on what we just talked about but a 1695 01:06:28,799 --> 01:06:30,559 majority of our LPC attendees are 1696 01:06:30,559 --> 01:06:32,799 attending online at this point um and 1697 01:06:32,799 --> 01:06:34,960 this is true during the interim um I 1698 01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,680 believe as well as during the session um 1699 01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:39,039 are there things that we can do to make 1700 01:06:39,039 --> 01:06:40,960 sure everyone is getting the best 1701 01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,760 experience regardless 1702 01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:45,839 is there anything we should be changing 1703 01:06:45,839 --> 01:06:47,680 up for anyone that was online or there 1704 01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:49,359 things that we could do differently um 1705 01:06:49,359 --> 01:06:51,440 given there are some parameters about 1706 01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:52,799 how cameras working in the room and 1707 01:06:52,799 --> 01:06:54,079 different things that we don't have a 1708 01:06:54,079 --> 01:06:56,160 ton of control over. But are there 1709 01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:57,760 things that we could we could change up 1710 01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:01,839 or or emphasize differently uh given the 1711 01:07:01,839 --> 01:07:04,720 amount of people that are online? 1712 01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:06,720 >> I'd be curious to hear from some of our 1713 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,951 board members that are attending online 1714 01:07:08,951 --> 01:07:10,880 [clears throat] 1715 01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,440 that kind of routinely attend online 1716 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:19,589 because they're drive away. 1717 01:07:19,599 --> 01:07:21,440 While you're waiting further comment, I 1718 01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,039 I'll just say the one of the things that 1719 01:07:23,039 --> 01:07:26,559 was really helpful was wherever the mics 1720 01:07:26,559 --> 01:07:29,200 were placed, 1721 01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:32,720 I was able to hear online and and that's 1722 01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,920 usually problem with online Zooms, 1723 01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:37,280 especially if you have different people 1724 01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,319 participating or um people were 1725 01:07:40,319 --> 01:07:42,640 repeating the questions that were that 1726 01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:44,640 may have been asked. So, so that those 1727 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,720 who were on Zoom could hear what the 1728 01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,520 issue was. 1729 01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:54,710 I saw Council Member Hinch. 1730 01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,119 » Oh, kind of along the lines of what she 1731 01:07:57,119 --> 01:07:58,400 just said. It's good to have those 1732 01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,440 questions repeated online. Um, in the 1733 01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,760 room we could see the screen with the 1734 01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:05,359 chat, 1735 01:08:05,359 --> 01:08:07,200 but sometimes that chat was going so 1736 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:08,960 fast we couldn't follow that 1737 01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:12,079 conversation, I guess, um, in person. 1738 01:08:12,079 --> 01:08:14,400 And so I I do appreciate that Cassidy 1739 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,239 and Carson would, you know, help us fill 1740 01:08:16,239 --> 01:08:17,679 in the blanks with those questions, but 1741 01:08:17,679 --> 01:08:19,279 sometimes we wanted to see that text to 1742 01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:20,319 those chats and I don't know if there's 1743 01:08:20,319 --> 01:08:22,312 a way to fix that. 1744 01:08:22,312 --> 01:08:29,189 [clears throat] 1745 01:08:29,199 --> 01:08:32,080 » Um, that's a good question. Um, and I 1746 01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:33,359 know because I know Carson and Cassie, 1747 01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:37,440 you guys watch that more closely. Um, 1748 01:08:37,440 --> 01:08:40,000 I think some of it, well, you guys tell 1749 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,199 me if I'm wrong. I think some of it is people because it's in 1750 01:08:43,199 --> 01:08:45,839 chat um they can pile on very quickly 1751 01:08:45,839 --> 01:08:48,480 with comments just like a ditto or an I 1752 01:08:48,480 --> 01:08:50,960 or a um so I don't know that you 1753 01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:52,799 necessarily want to see all of it but I 1754 01:08:52,799 --> 01:08:53,839 don't know if there's a way to filter 1755 01:08:53,839 --> 01:08:55,199 some of that differently. 1756 01:08:55,199 --> 01:08:57,520 >> Yeah, I think we we use the chat in a 1757 01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:59,199 couple different ways. Number one, 1758 01:08:59,199 --> 01:09:01,520 that's how online participants can take 1759 01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:05,279 votes. Um, number two, I think we want 1760 01:09:05,279 --> 01:09:06,799 people to be able to submit feedback and 1761 01:09:06,799 --> 01:09:09,279 there's so many comments, especially uh, 1762 01:09:09,279 --> 01:09:11,440 as we kind of get later in the session 1763 01:09:11,440 --> 01:09:13,600 that it's kind of hard to bring us to 1764 01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:14,640 parse through in the meeting. you may 1765 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,640 have to go back and it's super helpful 1766 01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:17,679 because there's a lot of information 1767 01:09:17,679 --> 01:09:21,440 that we go back and garments usually. 1768 01:09:21,440 --> 01:09:25,279 Um, yeah, I think uh and maybe it's just 1769 01:09:25,279 --> 01:09:28,159 a encouraging people to 1770 01:09:28,159 --> 01:09:29,920 try to cut down on some of the snarky 1771 01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:34,960 comments that up a fair amount of the comments overall. Um, and maybe I 1772 01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:36,080 think I think one thing that we've 1773 01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:37,279 discussed is trying to figure out how 1774 01:09:37,279 --> 01:09:38,960 toize things like voting. So there's 1775 01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,920 like a specific approach for leading 1776 01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:43,920 feedback. there's a specific approach 1777 01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,480 for like like if we have some of the 1778 01:09:46,480 --> 01:09:48,640 target information we were requesting on 1779 01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,679 taxes Alexa was the point person um some 1780 01:09:51,679 --> 01:09:53,759 of the other like 1781 01:09:53,759 --> 01:09:57,120 technical feedback on 284 J person so 1782 01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:58,400 that might be another way we kind of 1783 01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,440 look at it is say um for specific 1784 01:10:01,440 --> 01:10:03,199 feedback on these items rather than just 1785 01:10:03,199 --> 01:10:04,880 drop in the chat just shoot an email 1786 01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,040 we'll drop it in the link and um that 1787 01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:08,239 way we can make sure it kind of rises 1788 01:10:08,239 --> 01:10:10,560 into the top right boxes but yeah I'm 1789 01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,640 open to other other ideas 1790 01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:13,679 is is there 1791 01:10:13,679 --> 01:10:16,400 >> maybe 1792 01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:18,480 go ahead council I'll chime in after 1793 01:10:18,480 --> 01:10:19,920 >> I was just going to say maybe the fix 1794 01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,560 for me in the room is to be logged in to 1795 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,480 see the chat I just know specifically 1796 01:10:24,480 --> 01:10:27,760 the last meeting I was interested in the 1797 01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:29,520 comments online and I couldn't see them 1798 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:31,520 because they you know they'd gone just 1799 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,480 like you said piled on so quickly so 1800 01:10:34,480 --> 01:10:37,120 maybe the fix is just to be logged in as 1801 01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,840 well as in the room but that kind of 1802 01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:41,920 skews your numbers 1803 01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:43,199 Yeah. Well, and that's one of the things 1804 01:10:43,199 --> 01:10:45,600 we've talked about is the last couple of 1805 01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:47,120 sessions we haven't had to take a close 1806 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,800 vote. Um if anybody we we used to take 1807 01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,159 more close votes and we haven't had the 1808 01:10:52,159 --> 01:10:54,159 last couple sessions. If we get into a 1809 01:10:54,159 --> 01:10:57,520 true voting situation online um between 1810 01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:58,960 in line on the room that's something 1811 01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:00,800 that we as staff have been trying to 1812 01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:02,000 figure out like do we just make everyone 1813 01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:03,520 log into the same system and vote that 1814 01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,600 way so we're just on one platform. 1815 01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,080 >> The only way we can get from the account 1816 01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:09,760 without having to count is 1817 01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:11,920 >> Yeah. I'm counting eyes in a chat. It's 1818 01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:13,520 funky. But Cassidy, we were almost 1819 01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,199 there. We had a we had 1820 01:11:15,199 --> 01:11:16,400 >> So, I mean, that's kind of the 1821 01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:18,640 importance of the LPC sign in. So, what 1822 01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:20,239 I do is I have all of the voting 1823 01:11:20,239 --> 01:11:21,840 members. And granted, one thing that has 1824 01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,159 really improved this process is you as a 1825 01:11:24,159 --> 01:11:25,679 board voting to say, "Hey, you can only 1826 01:11:25,679 --> 01:11:27,280 change your voting members twice a year. 1827 01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,520 That has been super helpful for us as 1828 01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,679 NAB members because now I have a list of 1829 01:11:31,679 --> 01:11:33,120 the voting members and I have a list of 1830 01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:34,719 their emails." So when you sign in to 1831 01:11:34,719 --> 01:11:37,600 LPC, I get that through Qualrix and I've 1832 01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:39,520 written a piece of code where I can 1833 01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:40,960 strip out everyone who's a voting member 1834 01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:42,800 and I have their email. So I know that 1835 01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:44,960 they've signed in and so if we had to do 1836 01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:46,800 a vote, I know who I'm counting. But if 1837 01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,040 you don't sign in, I may see you in the 1838 01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,280 room, but I may not. So I think we're 1839 01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:52,640 still trying to figure out what is the 1840 01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:56,320 best way to make that process easy for 1841 01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,719 our members and easy for us. And we just 1842 01:11:58,719 --> 01:12:00,400 haven't quite gotten there. But we're in 1843 01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:01,760 a much better spot than we were a few 1844 01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:03,360 years ago. I think we were to have close 1845 01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:04,159 though. 1846 01:12:04,159 --> 01:12:05,600 >> Yeah. And we going to figure it out this 1847 01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,199 year. Yeah. 1848 01:12:07,199 --> 01:12:11,040 >> I was just going to say it. Um I do 1849 01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,040 always 1850 01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:17,830 the chat 1851 01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:19,920 really good raw feedback in there, but I 1852 01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:21,679 can see how from like a voting or trying 1853 01:12:21,679 --> 01:12:23,840 to convey information it's is difficult. 1854 01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:25,920 I wonder if there's a way I mean the 1855 01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:27,199 league's been so great about finding 1856 01:12:27,199 --> 01:12:30,800 tools like Slido if there's like a 1857 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:32,640 companion 1858 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,679 piece where 1859 01:12:35,679 --> 01:12:37,040 I don't know if it's Slack or something 1860 01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:40,080 else where where we can have the like 1861 01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:41,679 the more serious like 1862 01:12:41,679 --> 01:12:43,199 >> ability to be like all right if you need 1863 01:12:43,199 --> 01:12:46,239 information on property tax then then 1864 01:12:46,239 --> 01:12:46,640 you know 1865 01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,120 >> we have a channel and it's it's for 1866 01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,199 Jared and if it's other issue and 1867 01:12:51,199 --> 01:12:53,520 Alexa's capturing it it's it's on this 1868 01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,239 channel so that people especially the 1869 01:12:56,239 --> 01:12:58,400 voter members or the key people who are 1870 01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:00,000 giving the feedback there so you can can 1871 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:01,679 use those 1872 01:13:01,679 --> 01:13:05,199 >> um I mean I in in the room you get to 1873 01:13:05,199 --> 01:13:07,199 have that side conversation with the 1874 01:13:07,199 --> 01:13:08,719 person sitting next to you or walk into 1875 01:13:08,719 --> 01:13:10,640 the hallway to grab something from 1876 01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:12,560 another city so I hate to take that away 1877 01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:14,880 because the chat serves that that kind 1878 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,280 of important connection 1879 01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:19,920 piece for those that are joining uh 1880 01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:21,280 remotely 1881 01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:22,560 >> I think that's an interesting way to try 1882 01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:24,800 to make that meeting the people there 1883 01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,199 see that online like they don't have to 1884 01:13:27,199 --> 01:13:29,040 log into Zoom to be able to see that 1885 01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:30,159 idea. 1886 01:13:30,159 --> 01:13:32,400 >> I've wondered that too sometimes where I 1887 01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,080 know there's important feedback 1888 01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:37,199 happening in the in the chat but I'm in 1889 01:13:37,199 --> 01:13:39,280 the room and 1890 01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:40,880 >> we are having in some ways we're having 1891 01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:42,080 two slightly different meetings. 1892 01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:43,440 >> Yes, in some ways we are having two 1893 01:13:43,440 --> 01:13:44,640 slightly different meetings. 1894 01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:46,320 >> Yeah, that's a good point. 1895 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:50,470 >> Uh let's see. 1896 01:13:50,480 --> 01:13:52,400 So, could you separate LPC voting 1897 01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:53,920 members into a different Zoom breakout 1898 01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,480 room when if you take a vote? 1899 01:13:56,480 --> 01:13:57,199 >> That's intriguing. 1900 01:13:57,199 --> 01:13:58,560 >> Oh, yeah. I don't know if we actually 1901 01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,239 talked about that. 1902 01:14:00,239 --> 01:14:02,000 >> That's an interesting thing to explore. 1903 01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,400 I don't think about that. 1904 01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:05,520 >> Uh they can 1905 01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:06,239 >> we can Yeah. 1906 01:14:06,239 --> 01:14:08,239 >> The biggest challenge is 1907 01:14:08,239 --> 01:14:10,880 >> just the names people use. like we could 1908 01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,280 we'd be the ones exactly to sort people. 1909 01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:16,080 But if somebody joins like maybe they 1910 01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:17,600 just use their first initial instead of 1911 01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:21,280 their full name or like 1912 01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,280 trying to results in the back end is 1913 01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:24,960 there. 1914 01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:31,830 >> Yeah. Somebody one day join 1915 01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,000 » department it's their personal email 1916 01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:35,440 instead of their email, 1917 01:14:35,440 --> 01:14:36,880 >> right? Like that's like the biggest 1918 01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:39,440 problem tend to have these numbers. like 1919 01:14:39,440 --> 01:14:41,520 >> did you use like I have a whole slew of 1920 01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:42,960 information on 1921 01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:44,640 >> Gmail accounts and some of them are like 1922 01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:45,920 people sitting accounts because they 1923 01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:47,120 haven't moved over to.gov yet but 1924 01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:49,040 someone was like oh I just accidentally 1925 01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:50,560 signed up with my personal account 1926 01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,080 because that's what my iPhone filled in. 1927 01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:52,400 Right. 1928 01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:53,679 >> Yeah. 1929 01:14:53,679 --> 01:14:56,080 >> That was the email you had open. Um I do 1930 01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:57,520 want to spend a little time any anything 1931 01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:01,040 else on LPC as far as structural things, 1932 01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:02,960 procedural things? Anything you'd like 1933 01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:04,800 to see different? 1934 01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:06,560 Food doesn't count. 1935 01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:07,840 >> Oh okay. I have thoughts on 1936 01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,640 >> and then before I answer that um Tyler 1937 01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:14,080 Clancy has just joined us online. Tyler, 1938 01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,880 we this is Cam. I would We're just a few 1939 01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:19,760 minutes late. Are you okay if uh you 1940 01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:22,640 hang on for maybe seven more minutes so 1941 01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:24,560 we can finish this? 1942 01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:25,360 >> You're good. Okay. 1943 01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:26,640 >> All good. Don't worry. 1944 01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:28,320 >> Okay. Perfect. Thank you, sir. 1945 01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:29,679 >> So, let's talk about Tyler fans for a 1946 01:15:29,679 --> 01:15:32,560 second. No, [laughter] 1947 01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:36,880 >> I do think it really helps um we can get 1948 01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,840 way more into a mode where we um 1949 01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:44,320 announce the person who's talking and 1950 01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:47,280 um that definitely I think helps those 1951 01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:48,560 that are online 1952 01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:50,960 >> when I'm making a comment or when I'm 1953 01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:52,560 >> commenting. 1954 01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:54,159 >> So anyone that's on a mic say this who 1955 01:15:54,159 --> 01:15:55,600 it is and where they're from. That's a 1956 01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,760 good point. I think I think people get 1957 01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,320 used get, you know, used to hear staff 1958 01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,000 are like, "Yep, I recognize that's 1959 01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,239 Justin." But there's others that they 1960 01:16:04,239 --> 01:16:06,560 might be like this random person. 1961 01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:15,510 >> That's a good point. 1962 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,600 » Yeah. 1963 01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:19,199 Maybe one more mic then because 1964 01:16:19,199 --> 01:16:20,800 sometimes you know when the mic is going 1965 01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,679 back and forth it's kind of that long 1966 01:16:23,679 --> 01:16:25,679 pause it's going 1967 01:16:25,679 --> 01:16:27,360 I'm just gonna speak loud let them know 1968 01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:32,560 we work yeah waiting for the mic does 1969 01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,360 >> yeah mic more mics have two more 1970 01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:37,920 questions and I'm gonna put up both out 1971 01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:39,679 there and if you want to answer you know 1972 01:16:39,679 --> 01:16:41,600 what we're just talking about LPC but um 1973 01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,520 how do we do in 2026 session from your 1974 01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:45,040 perspective on priorities and political 1975 01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:47,760 capital Um, I know I sort of already 1976 01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:49,120 answered that one a little bit, but 1977 01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:50,560 would love to hear other perspectives. 1978 01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,320 And then, um, how do we do during the 1979 01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,159 session on membership involvement in 1980 01:16:54,159 --> 01:16:57,120 advocacy? Um, so thoughts on either of 1981 01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,840 those 1982 01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:01,440 or any other thoughts on session? How do 1983 01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:04,640 we do? I just thought I want to share 1984 01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:06,719 probably more of the how did we do with 1985 01:17:06,719 --> 01:17:08,719 membership involvement and advocacy. I 1986 01:17:08,719 --> 01:17:11,199 feel like that as the session began 1987 01:17:11,199 --> 01:17:13,199 there was certainly a lot of curiosity 1988 01:17:13,199 --> 01:17:15,840 about where bills were and I think you 1989 01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,400 as staff I think we as a as an LPC 1990 01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:21,280 operation did a really good job of week 1991 01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:23,679 to week giving let's call them 1992 01:17:23,679 --> 01:17:27,360 breadcrumbs as as as a bill bills on 1993 01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:30,320 property tax morphed as bills on other 1994 01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:33,120 topics morphed I felt like our members 1995 01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,120 wherever they were online or or in the 1996 01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,760 room they I think they were able to see 1997 01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:39,840 the the progress and the evolution of 1998 01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:42,320 those topics. Um, and I really like 1999 01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:43,920 that. I think I don't know that this 2000 01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:45,199 year was a whole lot different than 2001 01:17:45,199 --> 01:17:46,880 other years. Maybe maybe the big 2002 01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:48,239 difference this year there wasn't quite 2003 01:17:48,239 --> 01:17:50,480 the surprises at the end of the session 2004 01:17:50,480 --> 01:17:53,199 that kind of hijacked maybe that last 2005 01:17:53,199 --> 01:17:56,229 meeting 2006 01:17:56,239 --> 01:17:58,080 » but I really felt like that our members 2007 01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:00,400 were able to to follow along in the 2008 01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,960 evolution and and we did a really good 2009 01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,600 job of of bringing along in some of the 2010 01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:07,840 more heavyweight topics that we 2011 01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:08,880 >> I appreciate that Seth. One of the 2012 01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:09,920 things and I know I've expressed this to 2013 01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:10,960 many of you. of the things that was 2014 01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:12,719 interesting this year is that we didn't 2015 01:18:12,719 --> 01:18:14,719 really have what I call like a big bad. 2016 01:18:14,719 --> 01:18:16,239 Um, you know, some years we'll have a 2017 01:18:16,239 --> 01:18:18,159 couple bills and those are, you know, 2018 01:18:18,159 --> 01:18:19,840 those are the big bills. That's like the 2019 01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:21,920 final box and we talk about them every 2020 01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,239 LPC and we're working through them. Um, 2021 01:18:24,239 --> 01:18:26,239 this year we had a lot of second tier 2022 01:18:26,239 --> 01:18:28,640 kind of level things and it gets really 2023 01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:30,480 difficult to figure out how to 2024 01:18:30,480 --> 01:18:32,560 prioritize when it's the big bads. We 2025 01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:33,760 know like we need to talk about these 2026 01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,159 two or three bills. when it's 20 bills 2027 01:18:36,159 --> 01:18:38,159 that are sort of next level, it gets 2028 01:18:38,159 --> 01:18:40,080 harder to kind of prioritize those or 2029 01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:41,760 and you saw that on the OPC agenda. We 2030 01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:43,440 would have so many bills on the agenda 2031 01:18:43,440 --> 01:18:44,960 because once you're down at that next 2032 01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:46,560 level, 2033 01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:49,040 you know, Jared's bill is no more 2034 01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:50,480 important than the bill I'm working on 2035 01:18:50,480 --> 01:18:51,520 that's, you know, we're all kind of 2036 01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:55,600 second level bills. Um and so yeah, we 2037 01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:57,199 were trying to figure out that also how 2038 01:18:57,199 --> 01:18:59,280 to talk about all the different things 2039 01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:00,960 that are going on. But you know, 2040 01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:02,480 frankly, in previous years, we may not 2041 01:19:02,480 --> 01:19:04,320 have even had time to talk about because 2042 01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:06,239 we were f so focused on whatever the big 2043 01:19:06,239 --> 01:19:09,199 thing was. So I appreciate that. 2044 01:19:09,199 --> 01:19:10,800 >> You know, I think you guys did a really 2045 01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:12,320 good job in committees. I think the 2046 01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:13,760 committees in general did a really good 2047 01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:15,840 job in filtering through these so that 2048 01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:17,440 they either didn't come out of committee 2049 01:19:17,440 --> 01:19:21,040 or they came out better. Um, and I know 2050 01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,520 I saw a lot of testimony going on and a 2051 01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:26,239 lot of people were getting that. So, I 2052 01:19:26,239 --> 01:19:30,870 thought that was good 2053 01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:31,920 for the sessions. 2054 01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:33,760 >> Yeah. If I find the legislature report 2055 01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:35,120 card on committees, they they did a 2056 01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:36,640 better job this year. Their grade went 2057 01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:38,560 up for sure. 2058 01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:41,520 I just a question from looking at more 2059 01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:43,760 of the executive group and how much 2060 01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:47,840 pressure they were holding down and if 2061 01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,320 that is there more need for us to get 2062 01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:52,080 more involved and how we get a little 2063 01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:53,920 bit more take some of that heat off of 2064 01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:56,239 that executive and bring it down to just 2065 01:19:56,239 --> 01:19:58,080 the board members here and say hey how 2066 01:19:58,080 --> 01:19:59,760 can we help you with some of this stuff 2067 01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:01,280 and I know it's hard to pass on 2068 01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:04,640 something but maybe 2069 01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:05,760 somehow reach [clears throat] out or we 2070 01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:07,120 need to reach out somehow better 2071 01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:08,159 communication you say, "Hey, where do 2072 01:20:08,159 --> 01:20:10,320 you need our help in in certain bills?" 2073 01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:12,000 Because we might have some expertise 2074 01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:14,000 that could do that. And you probably I 2075 01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:15,280 know you probably lean on some of the 2076 01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,920 stuff at SoC just because we have them. 2077 01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:19,760 >> We we do talk to your folks a lot. 2078 01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:21,199 >> Yeah. 2079 01:20:21,199 --> 01:20:24,000 So, council member, that actually was 2080 01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:26,000 one of the top priorities that when 2081 01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,320 President Rush and I sat down last 2082 01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:30,159 summer before she became president, that 2083 01:20:30,159 --> 01:20:33,520 was one of her pieces of that she wanted 2084 01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:36,239 to accomplish this year was how can we 2085 01:20:36,239 --> 01:20:39,600 better engage individual board members 2086 01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:41,840 and basically fill that gap between the 2087 01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:44,239 executive committee, which I should have 2088 01:20:44,239 --> 01:20:46,080 let out with this in the beginning of 2089 01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:47,520 the meeting. I want to thank the 2090 01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:49,120 executive committee for the amount of 2091 01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:51,120 time that they put in on lots of 2092 01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:52,719 different issues, lots of 7 a.m. phone 2093 01:20:52,719 --> 01:20:54,640 calls, lots of late night messages back 2094 01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:56,320 and forth, a tremendous amount of time 2095 01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:59,760 and expertise. And then we have LPC 2096 01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:03,360 and LPC I will grab this. It's on my 2097 01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:04,880 desk upstairs. It's just a reminder to 2098 01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:06,640 me of how far we've come. This is an LPC 2099 01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:09,360 agenda from 2020 where I was hand 2100 01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:11,840 counting on the back. We were counting 2101 01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:14,640 the uh the number of LBC votes. lobby 2102 01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:16,560 weren't even in office yet in 2020. This 2103 01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,280 predates CO and we had 91 votes that we 2104 01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:21,199 were counting. That was the people in 2105 01:21:21,199 --> 01:21:23,120 the meeting. So to go from that in a 2106 01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:25,040 matter of few years to now we've got 400 2107 01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:26,560 people on the call, not all voting 2108 01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:30,239 members. But you know, we are it is a 2109 01:21:30,239 --> 01:21:32,719 phenomenal growth that we've experienced 2110 01:21:32,719 --> 01:21:38,146 here. But I think there is still this space between being an 2111 01:21:38,146 --> 01:21:40,239 [clears throat] executive board officer 2112 01:21:40,239 --> 01:21:41,920 and LPC member and you as board members 2113 01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,400 and what's involved in the session. So 2114 01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:46,159 one way we tried to do that this session 2115 01:21:46,159 --> 01:21:48,159 is we tried to have other board members 2116 01:21:48,159 --> 01:21:50,159 participate in the work groups that we 2117 01:21:50,159 --> 01:21:51,520 that had upwork groups that happened 2118 01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:52,560 during the session. We always made sure 2119 01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:53,840 we had at least a couple of board 2120 01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:56,400 members not just executive board members 2121 01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:58,960 in those calls and then we tried to have 2122 01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:01,360 other board members on call for many 2123 01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:02,800 testimony but I think there's still room 2124 01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:04,960 to improve and and I always was 2125 01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:06,480 impressed because every time I talked to 2126 01:22:06,480 --> 01:22:08,320 our rep you know Angela like oh yeah 2127 01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:11,840 I've already talked already. 2128 01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:13,600 So, I appreciate all that. I just want 2129 01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:15,840 to make sure that we're we're helping 2130 01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:17,760 you out [clears throat] best as we can. 2131 01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:19,040 >> I like that idea. I think there's 2132 01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:20,960 something to say for in advance of the 2133 01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:23,360 session coming up with, okay, these two 2134 01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:25,040 board members are on water. You can 2135 01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:26,080 always hit them. They'll come to the 2136 01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:27,679 capital on water. These two are on 2137 01:22:27,679 --> 01:22:29,679 housing, these two are on transportation 2138 01:22:29,679 --> 01:22:31,520 on and that way you know, you just have 2139 01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:32,960 them in rotation that you can text them 2140 01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:34,080 and say, "Hey, we have an important 2141 01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:37,920 meeting come up. We need more bodies on this or expertise, whatever, but 2142 01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:39,679 maybe if we pre-filled that. I'm not 2143 01:22:39,679 --> 01:22:41,679 suggesting we have 8,000 subcommittees, 2144 01:22:41,679 --> 01:22:43,679 but if we have everybody has their I am 2145 01:22:43,679 --> 01:22:45,679 the water leazison 2146 01:22:45,679 --> 01:22:46,239 that 2147 01:22:46,239 --> 01:22:47,520 >> help so you don't have to do it in the 2148 01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:48,639 middle of the session. 2149 01:22:48,639 --> 01:22:51,679 >> I think knowing to in advance who has 2150 01:22:51,679 --> 01:22:54,639 time and capacity to come up this 2151 01:22:54,639 --> 01:22:56,159 there's definitely times where you can 2152 01:22:56,159 --> 01:22:59,840 do an online testimony, but um I think 2153 01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:02,239 the session is um particularly for 2154 01:23:02,239 --> 01:23:04,239 committee testimony more impactful when 2155 01:23:04,239 --> 01:23:07,360 you're in the room. Um, and you know, I 2156 01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:09,840 really appreciate it. Um, the executive 2157 01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,560 committee does put in, you know, a ton 2158 01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:15,520 of time and we sign up for the bonus 2159 01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,679 pack of time [clears throat] 2160 01:23:17,679 --> 01:23:19,600 for these positions. So, I really 2161 01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,239 appreciated um, you know, it's also 2162 01:23:22,239 --> 01:23:23,920 happens to fall during my busy season, 2163 01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,000 but it luckily dubtales. So, I was 2164 01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,159 really grateful that, you know, Troy was 2165 01:23:28,159 --> 01:23:30,080 often available to testify. Lauren was 2166 01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,480 able to testify. appreciate Christa was 2167 01:23:32,480 --> 01:23:35,040 able to fly up um and she testified 2168 01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:36,800 remotely several times and then there's 2169 01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:38,560 others that had some flexibility to be 2170 01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:41,760 up um TR was up quite a bit Burton was 2171 01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:45,120 up um if we know I think if we the hard 2172 01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:47,520 part is the way the 2173 01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:49,280 every 24 hours we never know what the 2174 01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:50,639 schedule is going to be at the capital 2175 01:23:50,639 --> 01:23:52,000 based on when they're releasing 2176 01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:54,480 committee agendas. So if there's certain 2177 01:23:54,480 --> 01:23:56,719 topics that board members are interested 2178 01:23:56,719 --> 01:23:59,600 and able to help fill in because they've 2179 01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:02,000 been part of a work group or it's really 2180 01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:03,840 important to their city and then that 2181 01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:05,920 they've kind of built some flexibility 2182 01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:08,320 and bandwidth into their life for that 2183 01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:10,159 seven week time period where where we 2184 01:24:10,159 --> 01:24:11,760 can call on you to come up and we know 2185 01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:13,600 that in advance that would probably be 2186 01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:16,639 how we how we bridge that gap between 2187 01:24:16,639 --> 01:24:18,800 the executive committee that's up there 2188 01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:21,280 quite a bit and then the board and 2189 01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:23,760 helping having you all help because 2190 01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:25,360 that's that's kind of what we need to 2191 01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:28,080 know is it's one thing if I'm like, "Hey 2192 01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:30,800 Jessica, sorry to blow up your day. Can 2193 01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:32,239 you drop everything you're doing and be 2194 01:24:32,239 --> 01:24:34,800 to the capital in an hour for you?" Yes. 2195 01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:36,560 And I actually thought that if I did 2196 01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:38,560 that, you'd probably do that. But if we 2197 01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:41,679 if I did like, hey, Jessica has been on 2198 01:24:41,679 --> 01:24:43,679 the water work group. She's up to speed. 2199 01:24:43,679 --> 01:24:45,199 So if we do give her that 24-hour 2200 01:24:45,199 --> 01:24:47,360 notice, she's built in that flexibility. 2201 01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:49,360 I think that changes the dynamic for how 2202 01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:51,199 staff and the executive committee can 2203 01:24:51,199 --> 01:24:52,239 pull people. 2204 01:24:52,239 --> 01:24:53,360 >> Well, I think and the other piece of 2205 01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:54,719 that what I what I'm thinking I really 2206 01:24:54,719 --> 01:24:56,239 like that is if we had a couple people 2207 01:24:56,239 --> 01:24:58,239 assigned to subjects because sometimes 2208 01:24:58,239 --> 01:24:59,679 we just need a gut check on something 2209 01:24:59,679 --> 01:25:02,159 really quick. Um and and if someone has, 2210 01:25:02,159 --> 01:25:03,440 you know, an expertise or a subject 2211 01:25:03,440 --> 01:25:05,440 matter and I can say, you know, I know 2212 01:25:05,440 --> 01:25:08,000 Mayor Shepard has this. Um I know, you 2213 01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:09,600 know, whatever. I can call him up and 2214 01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:11,678 say like, okay, board member, 2215 01:25:11,678 --> 01:25:12,400 [clears throat] I need something to give 2216 01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:14,320 me a gut check on this. And then and we 2217 01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:15,280 do this all the time in Lightning 2218 01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:17,280 Buckley. like kids down there so we can 2219 01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,360 grab her and say, "President, gut check 2220 01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:22,560 quick." Um, but going forward, we won't 2221 01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:24,880 have that same way. Um, so yeah, having 2222 01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:25,920 some people that are assigned to 2223 01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:27,199 different problems that we could gut 2224 01:25:27,199 --> 01:25:28,320 check with, 2225 01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:29,600 >> even if you're not getting up there to 2226 01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:31,920 say, "Hey, this bill just dropped. Give 2227 01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:32,960 me your quick take on it." 2228 01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:34,480 >> Is there a way to get a hold of people 2229 01:25:34,480 --> 01:25:35,600 quicker, too? Because I would get 2230 01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:37,760 emails, but I get so we all do, right? 2231 01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:39,600 We get so many emails that it'll say, 2232 01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:40,960 "Hey, I need to know before the end of 2233 01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:42,719 the day or before." By the time I 2234 01:25:42,719 --> 01:25:45,040 thought it had already almost passed. 2235 01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:46,719 So, and I know text messaging is really 2236 01:25:46,719 --> 01:25:48,880 hard, but if we use I don't know, group 2237 01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:50,320 me with different groups or something 2238 01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:51,360 like that. 2239 01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:52,560 >> Well, if we knew what people were 2240 01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:54,880 saying, we could figure out 2241 01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:56,639 >> because if it's in my face, I see it. 2242 01:25:56,639 --> 01:25:58,320 But if it's in my email, 2243 01:25:58,320 --> 01:25:59,600 >> I might not for a while. 2244 01:25:59,600 --> 01:25:59,840 >> Yeah. 2245 01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:01,679 >> And I know no one has time to make calls 2246 01:26:01,679 --> 01:26:03,360 try to get a hold of everybody. So, 2247 01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:05,120 >> Oh, thanks a lot. But 2248 01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:08,000 >> yeah, I think text is is really helpful 2249 01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:09,120 because you could, you know, Justin 2250 01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:10,320 could be in a Yeah. 2251 01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:11,520 >> committee hearing in Texas. It's hard 2252 01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:13,440 for him to be in a committee hearing and 2253 01:26:13,440 --> 01:26:15,360 trouble calling you. 2254 01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:17,120 >> Right. Right. So test is great. I'm just 2255 01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:18,960 saying good one platform or I don't 2256 01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:19,280 know. 2257 01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:22,080 >> Yeah. But yeah, but I Yeah. really 2258 01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:24,880 interesting idea of kind of signing some 2259 01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:26,880 stuff up in advance and then like I say 2260 01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:28,560 like if it's water if it's water, you 2261 01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:29,600 know, it's going to be me as the staff 2262 01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:32,000 are dealing with it and you know if it's 2263 01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:33,679 wooey Jared's gonna be stuck with it. 2264 01:26:33,679 --> 01:26:37,485 Yeah. Whatever it is forever. Um 2265 01:26:37,485 --> 01:26:39,840 [laughter] but but yeah, if we knew, you 2266 01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:41,600 know, like I've got three of you on a 2267 01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:43,199 text chain and you know this is what 2268 01:26:43,199 --> 01:26:45,520 it's going to be, then yeah, that I 2269 01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,120 really like that. That's great feedback. 2270 01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:48,880 >> Sorry to cut off this awesome 2271 01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:51,679 discussion. I we we don't want to leave 2272 01:26:51,679 --> 01:26:52,639 Clancy hanging. 2273 01:26:52,639 --> 01:26:53,199 >> You know what? 2274 01:26:53,199 --> 01:26:53,840 >> Too long. 2275 01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:56,639 >> We like to leave homelessness last 2276 01:26:56,639 --> 01:27:00,800 >> no longer homeless. He has a home. 2277 01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:02,480 >> So 2278 01:27:02,480 --> 01:27:04,320 Tyler, thank you very much for joining 2279 01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:06,159 us. keep getting tongue tied because I 2280 01:27:06,159 --> 01:27:07,840 want to call you Representative Clancy, 2281 01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:12,000 but those days are over, correct? 2282 01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:15,520 >> Oh, you're on mute. 2283 01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,960 >> So, we had we'd asked Tyler to come join 2284 01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:20,960 us at the board meeting. He's been 2285 01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:23,199 officially on the job now for two weeks 2286 01:27:23,199 --> 01:27:27,360 as of today. And we even though our 2287 01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:28,719 schedule's running late, we're still 2288 01:27:28,719 --> 01:27:30,719 going to spend the full 25 minutes. But 2289 01:27:30,719 --> 01:27:32,639 Tyler will just shorten the last agenda 2290 01:27:32,639 --> 01:27:34,639 and make sure we we get the full time 2291 01:27:34,639 --> 01:27:36,080 that that he committed with us. So, 2292 01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:38,000 thank you for making time to join us. 2293 01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:39,760 And Molly, I'm gonna actually give you a 2294 01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:42,639 moment just to refresh everybody's 2295 01:27:42,639 --> 01:27:44,239 memory of where we're at and then we'll 2296 01:27:44,239 --> 01:27:45,520 have you turn it over to Tyler. Does 2297 01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:45,920 that work? 2298 01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:48,080 >> Yeah, it's great. Um, and I'll try not 2299 01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:49,360 to do too much because I want to make 2300 01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:52,480 sure that um we have space for Tyler to 2301 01:27:52,480 --> 01:27:53,679 talk about what he wants to talk about. 2302 01:27:53,679 --> 01:27:57,120 So um after Wayne Eater House announced 2303 01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:00,159 that he was uh leaving Neerhouser um 2304 01:28:00,159 --> 01:28:02,320 last winter, Nick Coleman stepped in as 2305 01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:05,040 interim and then Tyler was named as the 2306 01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:09,440 new incoming um chair. We or pardon me 2307 01:28:09,440 --> 01:28:12,320 um coordinator uh for homelessness 2308 01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:14,080 within the state. Um we're really 2309 01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:16,080 excited to have him and work with him. 2310 01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:19,120 Um this session I think showed us that 2311 01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:21,280 we're in a bit of a transition period. 2312 01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:24,000 Um there's still a lot of uncertainty 2313 01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:27,679 about uh a campus coming online and what 2314 01:28:27,679 --> 01:28:30,080 that might look like. Um one thing that 2315 01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:32,320 we're looking at right now is the end of 2316 01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:35,840 the winter response funding and policy. 2317 01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:38,880 Um which means that there are hundreds 2318 01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:41,360 of beds that pending both funding and 2319 01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:44,960 land use permissions may go offline. um 2320 01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,199 which may then lead to hundreds of 2321 01:28:47,199 --> 01:28:51,120 people being um unsheltered in uh our 2322 01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:54,639 city streets um across the state. So um 2323 01:28:54,639 --> 01:28:57,360 we've had conversations about that. Um 2324 01:28:57,360 --> 01:28:58,560 Heather, I'd love it if you could kind 2325 01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:00,000 of chat through the legislative session 2326 01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:01,520 and what you're thinking ahead. And then 2327 01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:04,560 we did briefly chat about um our desire 2328 01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:07,040 to still create a mitigation task force 2329 01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:08,880 of our filter cities and non-filter 2330 01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:12,320 cities um ahead of next session. even 2331 01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:15,760 done it after statute. I still think um 2332 01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:18,320 we as a league would love to do um just 2333 01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:19,600 any way and come up with some 2334 01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:21,679 legislative recommendation. So, we're 2335 01:29:21,679 --> 01:29:23,440 really excited to have Tyler in this 2336 01:29:23,440 --> 01:29:24,719 space. We're going to miss him on the 2337 01:29:24,719 --> 01:29:26,719 hill, but um I think he's very well 2338 01:29:26,719 --> 01:29:28,960 suited to be in this position and move 2339 01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:32,400 us through this next chapter of policy. 2340 01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:34,000 >> Well, thanks so much, Molly. Can you 2341 01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:35,520 hear me? Okay. 2342 01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:36,880 >> Yes, sir. 2343 01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:39,600 >> Fantastic. Well, as Molly mentioned, 2344 01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:41,679 stepping into a pretty easy job right 2345 01:29:41,679 --> 01:29:44,400 now and 2346 01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:49,440 no big crisises or anything coming our way. Um, well, I'll do this 2347 01:29:49,440 --> 01:29:51,840 really quick. Um, I'll share just 2348 01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:54,000 briefly about the legislative session, 2349 01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:55,600 talk about the appropriations and 2350 01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:59,520 policy. Um, I'll share briefly about the 2351 01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:01,760 winter response uh opportunities and 2352 01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:04,480 challenges and then more than anything 2353 01:30:04,480 --> 01:30:06,880 uh I I want to be here to answer any 2354 01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:08,560 questions as well. I think that's 2355 01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:10,080 probably how I could be the best asset 2356 01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:12,159 going forward. I'll also make a note 2357 01:30:12,159 --> 01:30:15,120 that I'll share my uh email, my new 2358 01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:17,199 email address and I'll share my cell 2359 01:30:17,199 --> 01:30:20,560 phone number on the chat here. So, if if 2360 01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:22,960 there's any mayors or 2361 01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:25,600 uh other municipal leaders who need any 2362 01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:27,280 help, need any assistance, or just would 2363 01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:29,120 like to connect generally about 2364 01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:30,719 opportunities or challenges that your 2365 01:30:30,719 --> 01:30:32,800 city's facing, uh we will we will 2366 01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:34,960 absolutely make that a priority. So I'll 2367 01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:37,040 just first echo the sentiment that was 2368 01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:40,080 shared that uh the league is absolutely 2369 01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:42,159 very very visible and very engaged on 2370 01:30:42,159 --> 01:30:44,960 the hill on a number of issues but but 2371 01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:48,000 uh in my uh portfolio they were 2372 01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:52,320 absolutely uh available and engaged at 2373 01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,239 every step of the way on homelessness. 2374 01:30:54,239 --> 01:30:56,560 So there was a couple of uh policy items 2375 01:30:56,560 --> 01:31:00,159 that uh moved forward um and and some 2376 01:31:00,159 --> 01:31:03,920 that didn't on homelessness. Um there's 2377 01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:06,400 a some bills that move forward that uh 2378 01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:09,280 gave cities more tools to address uh 2379 01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:11,600 what what would generally be called uh 2380 01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:14,560 disorder. So 2381 01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:17,199 um identifying areas for stay out of 2382 01:31:17,199 --> 01:31:20,960 drug areas. Um there was legislation 2383 01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:23,679 that passed to restructure the office of 2384 01:31:23,679 --> 01:31:25,520 homeless services, make it more 2385 01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:27,120 streamlined and effective so we can be 2386 01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:28,800 better partners to serve cities and 2387 01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:31,440 counties. Um, I'm actually in Mayor 2388 01:31:31,440 --> 01:31:33,120 Wood's conference room right now in 2389 01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:34,320 South Salt Lake. That's why I couldn't 2390 01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:36,080 join you in person today. We just 2391 01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:39,280 finished up a meeting. Um, and then 2392 01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:42,159 probably the most uh comprehensive 2393 01:31:42,159 --> 01:31:45,440 homelessness legislation was run by 2394 01:31:45,440 --> 01:31:47,760 Representative Steve Ellison from Sandy. 2395 01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:49,920 Um, that bill actually failed on the 2396 01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:53,040 House floor by a very close margin and 2397 01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:55,280 there were some policy items in there 2398 01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:59,440 that Molly and you all as the league had 2399 01:31:59,440 --> 01:32:02,960 worked very closely on because of the 2400 01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:05,280 league's leadership. We're actually able 2401 01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:08,000 to revive key components of that 2402 01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:10,800 legislation and move it into uh other 2403 01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:13,199 legislation that was able to pass. Those 2404 01:32:13,199 --> 01:32:16,239 key components were allowing for um 2405 01:32:16,239 --> 01:32:19,920 flexible permitting for shelter beds uh 2406 01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:22,000 for cities that consented to that and 2407 01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:24,239 wanted that flexibility. 2408 01:32:24,239 --> 01:32:26,880 Um it it enhanced mitigation funding for 2409 01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:28,800 West Valley City who's been a great 2410 01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:31,360 partner in this effort and in this work 2411 01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:34,960 to to serve our unsheltered community. 2412 01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:38,080 And then um those were the those were 2413 01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:40,400 the main components. Um, I'll parlay 2414 01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:43,040 that into one element that failed in 2415 01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:45,280 Representative Elison's bill was the 2416 01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:47,360 statutory framework that established a 2417 01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:50,960 task force for the league and um the 2418 01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:52,400 office of homeless services and the 2419 01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:55,120 homeless services board to work together 2420 01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:57,920 to provide clarity for cities moving 2421 01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:00,800 forward on mitigation funding. Um, 2422 01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:02,880 that's something that Mayor Bradshaw and 2423 01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:05,199 I have committed a partnership that even 2424 01:33:05,199 --> 01:33:07,520 though it didn't pass in legislation, we 2425 01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:08,800 are absolutely going to lead out on 2426 01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:10,800 this. And so I've I've already dropped a 2427 01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:14,480 line to uh Molly and her team to say, 2428 01:33:14,480 --> 01:33:16,960 "Hey, who who needs to be at the table? 2429 01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:19,199 Who would like to be a part of this task 2430 01:33:19,199 --> 01:33:21,440 force? We want to engage shelter cities 2431 01:33:21,440 --> 01:33:23,520 and non-shelter cities alike." And 2432 01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:26,320 hopefully uh the the end goal would be 2433 01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:29,040 to uh recommend legislative changes that 2434 01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:32,239 would give clarity and consistency to 2435 01:33:32,239 --> 01:33:35,120 the mitigation process. 2436 01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:38,320 Um I'll I'll finalize by sharing on the 2437 01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:41,600 funding front. The governor's budget 2438 01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:43,840 request for homelessness was fully 2439 01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:46,719 funded for the first time probably ever. 2440 01:33:46,719 --> 01:33:49,199 Um the total number is about $45 2441 01:33:49,199 --> 01:33:52,560 million. Um, and it's partitioned out 2442 01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:55,040 between one-time money and ongoing 2443 01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:57,360 money. And it's partitioned out into 2444 01:33:57,360 --> 01:33:59,760 three tranches. The first is high 2445 01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:01,199 utilizers in the criminal justice 2446 01:34:01,199 --> 01:34:03,840 system. The second is emergency shelter 2447 01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:06,159 and housing. And the third is mental and 2448 01:34:06,159 --> 01:34:08,800 behavioral health capacity. And these 2449 01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:10,800 funding is contingent on a onetoone 2450 01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:14,239 local match. Um, we're going to be uh 2451 01:34:14,239 --> 01:34:15,840 doing a full scope review of how much 2452 01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:17,280 money is already being spent in the 2453 01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:19,199 system, where that's being spent, and 2454 01:34:19,199 --> 01:34:21,760 where we can be great partners to you as 2455 01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:23,920 leaders uh on the front lines on the 2456 01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:26,239 municipal and then also on our partners 2457 01:34:26,239 --> 01:34:28,400 on the county front as well. So, I hope 2458 01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:30,239 that gives a general overview. I'm more 2459 01:34:30,239 --> 01:34:32,639 than happy to send a legislative summary 2460 01:34:32,639 --> 01:34:35,199 to CAM if if that would be helpful to 2461 01:34:35,199 --> 01:34:37,679 disseminate that to members. Um but but 2462 01:34:37,679 --> 01:34:39,920 I want to make sure that I uh use your 2463 01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:42,560 time effectively and help answer any 2464 01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:45,199 questions that that uh may be may be 2465 01:34:45,199 --> 01:34:50,470 important on the heels of the session. 2466 01:34:50,480 --> 01:34:52,239 » Mayor Palmer has a question for you. 2467 01:34:52,239 --> 01:34:54,639 >> Tyler, can you go into the the 2468 01:34:54,639 --> 01:34:57,600 mitigation funding, the one to one um 2469 01:34:57,600 --> 01:34:59,920 local match and then the aspects of 2470 01:34:59,920 --> 01:35:00,880 that? 2471 01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:03,120 >> Absolutely. So it's actually two 2472 01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:05,199 different things. So the mitigation 2473 01:35:05,199 --> 01:35:07,520 funding was 2474 01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:09,760 relatively unchanged. The only thing 2475 01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:12,960 that changed with mitigation funding was 2476 01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:17,669 in FY2027 2477 01:35:17,679 --> 01:35:21,679 there were one time 15% increase 2478 01:35:21,679 --> 01:35:25,280 to the mitigation funding um because 2479 01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:27,760 that clarity and that consistency hasn't 2480 01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:29,840 been established. That was through 2481 01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:32,159 Representative Elison's bill that that 2482 01:35:32,159 --> 01:35:34,400 died but then was kind of revived and 2483 01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:37,760 put into pieces. There's a funding 2484 01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:40,080 stream that was identified and there's 2485 01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:42,320 one-time funding and ongoing funding for 2486 01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:45,920 both is high utilizers in the criminal 2487 01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:47,920 justice system. So, just to give an 2488 01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:50,719 example of what that means, and I'm I'm 2489 01:35:50,719 --> 01:35:52,320 using some some big numbers here, so 2490 01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:56,080 bear with me, but in uh there was a 2491 01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:58,800 thousand individuals in Salt Lake City 2492 01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:01,679 alone. So, for example, Mayor Palmer, 2493 01:36:01,679 --> 01:36:04,080 these individuals could probably be 2494 01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:06,239 getting arrested in your city or in 2495 01:36:06,239 --> 01:36:08,560 Midvil or in South Salt Lake. But for 2496 01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:10,800 the data set, this is we're only looking 2497 01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:13,040 at arrest data from Salt Lake City. 2498 01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:16,080 These 10,00 individuals compiled 2499 01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:20,080 comprised 43% of all arrests in the 2500 01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:23,199 entire city in 2025. So if you break 2501 01:36:23,199 --> 01:36:25,760 that down to manh hours is about 20 2502 01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:27,760 full-time employees dealing with this 2503 01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:29,520 small relatively small group of 2504 01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:32,960 individuals who are cycling over and over in the criminal justice 2505 01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:35,120 system. When you cross reference that 2506 01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:37,120 with homelessness data, these 2507 01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:39,760 individuals are disproportionately 2508 01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:42,719 uh seen in in homelessness. And so 2509 01:36:42,719 --> 01:36:45,119 really what we're recognizing is that 2510 01:36:45,119 --> 01:36:47,360 homelessness is a complex issue. It 2511 01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:49,119 comprises that individual who's, you 2512 01:36:49,119 --> 01:36:50,960 know, someone that's my age who's out 2513 01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:53,840 and about living uh in and dealing with 2514 01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:56,800 addiction and maybe I'm committing uh 2515 01:36:56,800 --> 01:37:00,159 theft and other types of disordered 2516 01:37:00,159 --> 01:37:02,239 behavior to provide for that addiction. 2517 01:37:02,239 --> 01:37:04,080 But it's also the mom fleeing domestic 2518 01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:06,320 violence with her children. It's also an 2519 01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:09,040 individual who 2520 01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:11,840 was released from state hospital uh 2521 01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:13,360 who's still experiencing mental illness 2522 01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:15,760 and they have no place to go. And so 2523 01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:17,360 what the legislature did by 2524 01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:19,840 appropriating that funding into high 2525 01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:22,000 utilizers in the criminal justice system 2526 01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:23,360 is they're saying we want to support 2527 01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:24,960 homelessness, but we want to see you be 2528 01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:27,600 innovative with this population in 2529 01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:30,080 particular. So we know they're headed on 2530 01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:33,040 a path of either long-term incarceration 2531 01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:35,360 or uh death. This is the number one uh 2532 01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:37,679 age range for overdose deaths in the 2533 01:37:37,679 --> 01:37:39,600 state of Utah right now. And so what can 2534 01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:43,360 we do to be more uh effective in our 2535 01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:45,440 interventions and help people heal? So 2536 01:37:45,440 --> 01:37:47,520 mayor, to to just recap on your 2537 01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:50,800 question, mitigation uh there was a 15% 2538 01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:53,119 one-time adjustment that goes into 2539 01:37:53,119 --> 01:37:55,760 effect in FY2027. 2540 01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:58,159 Um and then the high utilizer money is a 2541 01:37:58,159 --> 01:38:01,040 separate piece completely. I tend to 2542 01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:02,639 believe that it could be used to enhance 2543 01:38:02,639 --> 01:38:05,360 mitigation funding. Um but but that's to 2544 01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:07,360 be seen. So that's a that's a separate 2545 01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:11,990 set of money. 2546 01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:14,159 » Thank you. 2547 01:38:14,159 --> 01:38:16,960 >> Any other questions? 2548 01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:18,639 >> Oh, Derek Burton, do you want to go 2549 01:38:18,639 --> 01:38:20,560 ahead and ask your question? 2550 01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:24,080 >> I do. We met right before the session 2551 01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:25,840 started and you were asking me what I 2552 01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:27,360 thought needed to be done to help with 2553 01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:30,320 this. And I think that comment ties into 2554 01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:31,360 what you started out with your 2555 01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:33,679 conversation, how the state needs to 2556 01:38:33,679 --> 01:38:35,920 bring their resources together and have 2557 01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:38,080 an organized plan and not just leave it 2558 01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:40,080 up with the local communities. I mean, 2559 01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:41,920 right now, wherever the shelters are, 2560 01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:43,760 whether it's Ogden, Midvale, Salt Lake 2561 01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:46,400 City, it feels like it's left all to 2562 01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:48,080 them to do all the work. I think it 2563 01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:49,520 should be under the state to do the work 2564 01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:52,719 and those just happen to be houses where 2565 01:38:52,719 --> 01:38:55,600 the homeless go in to receive their help 2566 01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:58,320 and resources. I think getting the state 2567 01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:00,159 together and putting all the resources 2568 01:39:00,159 --> 01:39:02,320 together, all the providers together and 2569 01:39:02,320 --> 01:39:04,719 have them come up with their real plan 2570 01:39:04,719 --> 01:39:07,199 is going to be helping a lot. So, I'm 2571 01:39:07,199 --> 01:39:10,880 very strong behind that. 2572 01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:12,400 >> Well, thank you, Mayor Burton, and and 2573 01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:19,040 I'm with you 100%. I uh I think it was a key moment because as you know, mayor, 2574 01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:21,040 and and and I've heard you say this in 2575 01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:23,199 different iterations, but you can talk 2576 01:39:23,199 --> 01:39:24,719 about your priorities, but it's your 2577 01:39:24,719 --> 01:39:26,800 budget that really shows your values. 2578 01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:28,480 And I think the state investing a 2579 01:39:28,480 --> 01:39:30,480 historic amount in homelessness, I think 2580 01:39:30,480 --> 01:39:32,880 you can expect that the state is really 2581 01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:34,800 going to engage deeply. To your to your 2582 01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:38,080 point, mayor, that we can't just say 2583 01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:40,000 this is a this is a Salt Lake City 2584 01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:42,320 problem or this is a West Valley city, 2585 01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:44,800 what whatever the city is. We've got to 2586 01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:46,960 be united. We've got to have a strategic 2587 01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:48,159 plan. We've got to hold ourselves 2588 01:39:48,159 --> 01:39:53,199 accountable as state leaders. So, um, as Molly mentioned, I'm relatively new 2589 01:39:53,199 --> 01:39:55,280 to this role. still kind of finding my 2590 01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:57,760 desk and getting my computer set up, but 2591 01:39:57,760 --> 01:39:59,840 I'm I'm I'm ready to roll and ready to 2592 01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:02,480 collaborate and work together. And I I 2593 01:40:02,480 --> 01:40:06,400 hope that you with with uh for those of 2594 01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:08,639 you who we've worked together, you know 2595 01:40:08,639 --> 01:40:10,880 that I'm absolutely committed to being a 2596 01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:13,280 collaborator, being a partner, and 2597 01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:14,480 supporting the good work that you're 2598 01:40:14,480 --> 01:40:16,560 already doing. So, thank you for thank 2599 01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:20,560 you for teening that up, Mayor Burton. 2600 01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:23,679 >> I want to thank you. I feel like um we 2601 01:40:23,679 --> 01:40:26,239 had uh some really great conversations 2602 01:40:26,239 --> 01:40:30,080 particularly the last two nights um of 2603 01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:31,600 the session especially [clears throat] 2604 01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:33,040 when we were all directing the intern 2605 01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:36,560 witch bill to put the language in 2606 01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:40,880 put it in two bills too soon. 2607 01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:41,840 >> Yeah. 2608 01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:44,080 >> It was such a moment. We were all We 2609 01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:45,360 were all in the hallway figuring that 2610 01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:46,080 out. And then 2611 01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:47,199 >> it was a moment 2612 01:40:47,199 --> 01:40:48,800 >> with very clear instructions that did 2613 01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:50,639 not get followed, but at least we passed 2614 01:40:50,639 --> 01:40:51,119 it twice. 2615 01:40:51,119 --> 01:40:52,800 >> Completed the hands of circle. 2616 01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:55,360 >> Yeah, we did. We all put hands in. 2617 01:40:55,360 --> 01:40:56,480 >> That was something. 2618 01:40:56,480 --> 01:41:00,239 So anyway, thank you for helping us figure all that 2619 01:41:00,239 --> 01:41:01,840 out. But we had we had some great 2620 01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:04,960 discussions about um even though the the 2621 01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:06,400 work group wasn't going to go into the 2622 01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:08,960 bill, the importance of that work group. 2623 01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:11,679 Um, and so I know that you're only two 2624 01:41:11,679 --> 01:41:14,880 weeks in into this very light and easy 2625 01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:17,840 assignment, but have you thought about, 2626 01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:20,639 you know, your timing, um, how you'd 2627 01:41:20,639 --> 01:41:23,360 like us to send you any recommendations 2628 01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:25,280 um, 2629 01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:27,920 in going forward about about that 2630 01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:30,560 particular component? 2631 01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:34,560 >> Absolutely. And uh yes, I basically 2632 01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:37,199 lived in the hallway with Cam, Mayor 2633 01:41:37,199 --> 01:41:40,320 Bradshaw, and Molly for the last 48 2634 01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:43,520 hours of the session. Um [clears throat] 2635 01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:46,480 it was uh it was quite a time. Well, 2636 01:41:46,480 --> 01:41:48,400 this is such a high priority item. I So, 2637 01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:50,560 we've already actually created a kind of 2638 01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:53,840 a placeholder uh spreadsheet for, you 2639 01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:56,719 know, the membership of who we're ready 2640 01:41:56,719 --> 01:41:59,760 when you're ready. um you can submit 2641 01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:01,920 those direct directly to me or Nick. 2642 01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:04,960 This is an extremely important item and 2643 01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:08,159 for that reason um we're ready to rock. 2644 01:42:08,159 --> 01:42:11,199 So whenever you identify those uh 2645 01:42:11,199 --> 01:42:20,320 leaders who you'd like to to join the task force, we'll get rolling and our staff is is aware that this is a 2646 01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:23,600 key priority for the stability in our 2647 01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:26,000 system. uh to give to give the leaders 2648 01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:28,000 on the front line like yourselves the 2649 01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:30,239 clarity and consistency. That was the 2650 01:42:30,239 --> 01:42:32,960 big word, consistency. Uh I was just 2651 01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:34,719 with Mayor Wood and she just said, 2652 01:42:34,719 --> 01:42:37,440 "Listen, my we need the we need the 2653 01:42:37,440 --> 01:42:39,280 mitigation funding. It's it's super 2654 01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:41,600 helpful, but right now it changes every 2655 01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:43,920 year and our heads are spinning." So, um 2656 01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:47,440 we're ready. It's on a on our hot hot 2657 01:42:47,440 --> 01:42:54,560 sheet. Um and and uh looking forward to working together. Uh, Mayor Bradshaw, 2658 01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:58,239 >> thank you. I think from our perspective, 2659 01:42:58,239 --> 01:43:01,600 um, we'll be looking to to get some 2660 01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:03,920 recommendations and then formally adopt 2661 01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:06,800 those in our April board meeting. And 2662 01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:09,679 so, uh, if that won't slow down your 2663 01:43:09,679 --> 01:43:11,840 timeline too much, we'll plan to issue 2664 01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:13,760 our suggested recommendations 2665 01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:16,320 representing shelter and non shelter 2666 01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:18,400 cities after that April meeting. Unless, 2667 01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:19,360 of course, you're planning to come to 2668 01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:20,480 St. George, then we'll just tell you 2669 01:43:20,480 --> 01:43:24,400 there. Is that on the 23rd? 2670 01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:27,040 >> Yes, sir. 23rd and 24th. 2671 01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:31,440 >> 23rd and 24th. Okay. Um I I think 2672 01:43:31,440 --> 01:43:33,119 someone texted me today and they asked 2673 01:43:33,119 --> 01:43:36,320 if I could come. So, I'll make it this 2674 01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:39,920 you all. I hope you know like um my I I 2675 01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:44,639 really want to be a partner in this and work together. And I want I want you 2676 01:43:44,639 --> 01:43:46,320 to be able to pick up the phone and get 2677 01:43:46,320 --> 01:43:47,679 if you have a question for the state 2678 01:43:47,679 --> 01:43:50,639 about homelessness. Uh, I want to be 2679 01:43:50,639 --> 01:43:52,480 that partner and and bringing those 2680 01:43:52,480 --> 01:43:55,040 resources to bear. So, um, if I'm not if 2681 01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:56,320 I'm not there in person, I'll try to 2682 01:43:56,320 --> 01:43:58,800 make that in person. Um, St. George in 2683 01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:01,119 April, you know, is just brutal. Uh, 2684 01:44:01,119 --> 01:44:04,320 it's tough tough. But uh no, I'll 2685 01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:06,239 definitely try to be there. But if not, 2686 01:44:06,239 --> 01:44:08,800 my goal, Mayor, is if we could get those 2687 01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:12,000 legislative recommendations identified 2688 01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:14,639 by around September or October, I think 2689 01:44:14,639 --> 01:44:17,679 that sets us up for success um for the 2690 01:44:17,679 --> 01:44:19,600 legislative session that we can get it 2691 01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:24,800 down the pipeline, start to work the the body a little bit, and uh and 2692 01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:28,400 hopefully be successful there. 2693 01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:31,280 >> Thank you. I we I I think I speak 2694 01:44:31,280 --> 01:44:32,960 probably for everyone. We're excited to 2695 01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:34,560 have you in this role. We, you know, 2696 01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:37,679 we've long felt really good about um the 2697 01:44:37,679 --> 01:44:39,280 work we've done with you at the state 2698 01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:43,040 capital. Um so, uh we would be happy to 2699 01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:45,920 have you join us in St. George. Um if 2700 01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:47,199 you found your way down there with a 2701 01:44:47,199 --> 01:44:50,880 mountain bike, that would be great. 2702 01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:52,560 We can we can have some offline 2703 01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:55,119 discussions. Any and I see uh I see 2704 01:44:55,119 --> 01:44:56,719 Mayor Nadulski has his hand up with a 2705 01:44:56,719 --> 01:44:59,199 question. 2706 01:44:59,199 --> 01:45:02,239 I I actually think I part of my contract 2707 01:45:02,239 --> 01:45:03,600 to speak today was I wouldn't take 2708 01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:05,360 questions from Mayor Nadulski. Is that 2709 01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:11,350 okay? [laughter] 2710 01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:13,199 » Knows how Tyler knows how I like to 2711 01:45:13,199 --> 01:45:14,960 talk, so he's trying to he's trying to 2712 01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:18,080 bait me here. But um I wanted to tell 2713 01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:20,159 for the benefit of the group, I I had a 2714 01:45:20,159 --> 01:45:21,760 really good meeting with Tyler and his 2715 01:45:21,760 --> 01:45:24,080 team. Um it felt like a completely new 2716 01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:27,280 energy. It was we left feeling really 2717 01:45:27,280 --> 01:45:31,119 energized and and excited. Um 2718 01:45:31,119 --> 01:45:34,560 Tyler touched on these uh high utilizer 2719 01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:37,360 population and we kind of moved quickly 2720 01:45:37,360 --> 01:45:38,800 past it and I just wanted to reinforce 2721 01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:41,520 something when when he talks about 2722 01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:43,199 homelessness, he continues to talk about 2723 01:45:43,199 --> 01:45:47,040 the entire spectrum of need because he talked about how complicated the 2724 01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:50,560 issue is, right? this issue of of 2725 01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:52,159 criminal justice and the justice system 2726 01:45:52,159 --> 01:45:54,639 and the role that it plays is a leg of 2727 01:45:54,639 --> 01:45:57,520 it and it has been uh deemphasized for 2728 01:45:57,520 --> 01:46:01,199 too long and this high utilizer issue is 2729 01:46:01,199 --> 01:46:04,080 absolutely killing us. Um we have got to 2730 01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:06,080 address it the way that he is going 2731 01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:09,679 after it and it does not mean however 2732 01:46:09,679 --> 01:46:11,280 that we're quote arresting our way out 2733 01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:13,600 of homelessness. Um, I get so frustrated 2734 01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:16,159 that that legitimate needs, needs that 2735 01:46:16,159 --> 01:46:19,280 you can document with data, quantify, 2736 01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:22,159 improve, uh, that are being ignored and 2737 01:46:22,159 --> 01:46:23,600 that people are continually being harmed 2738 01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:25,679 every day by the same small group of 2739 01:46:25,679 --> 01:46:27,840 people. Um, do not move towards 2740 01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:30,159 solutions because of the politization 2741 01:46:30,159 --> 01:46:32,080 and this all or nothing mentality of the 2742 01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:34,320 talking points. This is not what he's 2743 01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:35,520 referring. That's not what he's 2744 01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:37,600 proposing. There's still all of the 2745 01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:39,280 different pillars for homelessness, but 2746 01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:42,400 this one is one that that me and and up 2747 01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:44,239 here in Ogden that we're excited to be 2748 01:46:44,239 --> 01:46:46,800 talking about and really uh Tyler really 2749 01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:48,080 appreciate the fact that you're want 2750 01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:51,199 willing to take that on. 2751 01:46:51,199 --> 01:46:54,000 >> Thanks. Thanks, Mayor. And just building 2752 01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:55,440 on the good work that's already being 2753 01:46:55,440 --> 01:46:57,280 done, trying to row in the same 2754 01:46:57,280 --> 01:47:00,320 direction and recognize that it's never 2755 01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:02,639 going to be a one-sizefits-all uh 2756 01:47:02,639 --> 01:47:05,840 solution to a very complex challenge. 2757 01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:07,280 So, thank thanks mayor for your 2758 01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:09,199 confidence and hope to continue to earn 2759 01:47:09,199 --> 01:47:11,520 it through uh our our hard work 2760 01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:13,600 together. 2761 01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:14,960 >> Thanks. And I'll just point out again 2762 01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:16,639 that it really says something when Ogden 2763 01:47:16,639 --> 01:47:19,679 and Salt Lake City come to the same 2764 01:47:19,679 --> 01:47:21,199 we're we're doing the same data analysis 2765 01:47:21,199 --> 01:47:23,440 that Salt Lake City did. And there's 2766 01:47:23,440 --> 01:47:24,880 nothing partisan about it when you have 2767 01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:27,280 Salt Lake and Ogden on the same page. It 2768 01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:29,760 literally is data. It's it's fact and 2769 01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:32,639 it's it's humanity. It's people. Um, I 2770 01:47:32,639 --> 01:47:34,159 just hope that the the league will help 2771 01:47:34,159 --> 01:47:35,520 make sure that this doesn't get pinned 2772 01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:36,800 into the corner of arresting your way 2773 01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:38,800 out of homelessness. But we do need to 2774 01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:42,000 sometimes arrest people 2775 01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:46,560 >> and since since you and Salt Lake are so um sympatico at this moment, 2776 01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:48,000 we'll go to Council Member Dan Dugan for 2777 01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:49,119 the next audience. 2778 01:47:49,119 --> 01:47:50,320 >> Thank you very much. Thank you very 2779 01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:52,719 much, Mayor. I appreciate that and I I 2780 01:47:52,719 --> 01:47:54,880 agree with you on that that point. And 2781 01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:57,600 I'm now I'm gonna I'm g shift Todd to 2782 01:47:57,600 --> 01:48:00,080 the other side of that spectrum. Uh, and 2783 01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:02,560 first of all, shout out to Nick on his 2784 01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:04,239 work over the last six months or so. 2785 01:48:04,239 --> 01:48:06,239 I've had a number of interactions with 2786 01:48:06,239 --> 01:48:10,080 Nick and and your staff and it's been wonderful. On the other side 2787 01:48:10,080 --> 01:48:12,000 of the house is I'd like to I'm looking 2788 01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:14,000 at trying to remove some of the people 2789 01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:16,560 that are in the system and how we can 2790 01:48:16,560 --> 01:48:18,239 help them out that are on probably on 2791 01:48:18,239 --> 01:48:20,320 the higher 2792 01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:23,199 uh less needs side of the house. And 2793 01:48:23,199 --> 01:48:25,679 that's the micro shelters. And I've had 2794 01:48:25,679 --> 01:48:27,520 a lot about interactions with Nick on 2795 01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:29,360 the micro shelters. have a lot of uh 2796 01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:31,280 encouragement and also a lot of interest 2797 01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:33,600 in in putting micro shelters in other 2798 01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:36,400 places of of Utah. And I really want to 2799 01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:39,280 continue on that effort that's taking 2800 01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:41,440 the ones that don't need as much help, 2801 01:48:41,440 --> 01:48:43,119 but if they just have one small space, 2802 01:48:43,119 --> 01:48:44,880 then they can get out of the system and 2803 01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:47,199 quickly move on and provide more time 2804 01:48:47,199 --> 01:48:49,760 and effort for others that need the help 2805 01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:52,880 uh to to get that help. So, I'd really 2806 01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:54,719 love to pick your brains more and work 2807 01:48:54,719 --> 01:48:57,600 with Nick on promoting those micro 2808 01:48:57,600 --> 01:48:59,199 shelters and how we can spread those 2809 01:48:59,199 --> 01:49:02,560 around the the state. 2810 01:49:02,560 --> 01:49:06,880 You said it, you said it perfectly and I I'll call you councilman, but I always 2811 01:49:06,880 --> 01:49:09,040 want to call you coach um because I was 2812 01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:13,360 a lacrosse player too at but um so so 2813 01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:15,280 what what Councilman Dugan outlined and 2814 01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:17,360 if you're interested in coming to see it 2815 01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:19,040 uh let me know or let any of my staff 2816 01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:20,400 know and we'll touch base with 2817 01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:23,360 Councilman Dugan staff. The micro 2818 01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:25,920 shelters are are a great example of of 2819 01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:29,679 success. Um there's a there's a a 2820 01:49:29,679 --> 01:49:32,000 spectrum of individuals who are staying 2821 01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:35,679 at the micro shelters. Some it is uh 2822 01:49:35,679 --> 01:49:38,000 kind of their their their point where 2823 01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:41,119 they enter the system. Um and for others 2824 01:49:41,119 --> 01:49:44,320 who as Councilman Digan said, you know, 2825 01:49:44,320 --> 01:49:46,000 they're they're kind of other side of 2826 01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:50,070 that spectrum where they're 2827 01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:52,719 income but but they're being priced out 2828 01:49:52,719 --> 01:49:56,320 of the market. Um there's actually uh as 2829 01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:58,639 we're bringing these new units online, 2830 01:49:58,639 --> 01:50:00,400 it's uh we're going to be able to have 2831 01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:02,560 some individuals stay there for longer 2832 01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:04,719 because they want to. That's that's the 2833 01:50:04,719 --> 01:50:07,040 safe environment that they bring. Um 2834 01:50:07,040 --> 01:50:10,560 these are essentially very small modular 2835 01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:14,719 um homes and it's a very low impact to 2836 01:50:14,719 --> 01:50:17,440 the community. Uh this project that 2837 01:50:17,440 --> 01:50:20,320 Councilman Dugan has championed is under 2838 01:50:20,320 --> 01:50:23,840 the freeway on the on the west side of 2839 01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:26,239 downtown and you would never know it. 2840 01:50:26,239 --> 01:50:27,760 All of you have probably driven past it 2841 01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:30,480 a hundred times and it's a it's very low 2842 01:50:30,480 --> 01:50:32,560 impact to the community. It's managed 2843 01:50:32,560 --> 01:50:35,119 very well. It's managed by that one is 2844 01:50:35,119 --> 01:50:37,199 managed by Switch Point and and 2845 01:50:37,199 --> 01:50:39,199 Councilman to your point about where 2846 01:50:39,199 --> 01:50:43,600 we're headed on this um I actually got a 2847 01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:45,440 one of my first messages in the office 2848 01:50:45,440 --> 01:50:49,199 is Iron County um is looking to 2849 01:50:49,199 --> 01:50:50,639 replicate the project that you've 2850 01:50:50,639 --> 01:50:53,119 championed in Salt Lake City. So we do 2851 01:50:53,119 --> 01:50:55,360 think that this is a replicable model. 2852 01:50:55,360 --> 01:50:58,800 it fits a key need for many uh in the in 2853 01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:01,119 the population and we can do it very 2854 01:51:01,119 --> 01:51:02,639 cost-e effectively and with a 2855 01:51:02,639 --> 01:51:05,199 significantly lower impact to the 2856 01:51:05,199 --> 01:51:07,840 community than say uh a low barrier 2857 01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:09,280 homeless shelter or something like that. 2858 01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:12,000 So we presented that to the executive 2859 01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:14,639 appropriations committee along with the 2860 01:51:14,639 --> 01:51:16,960 um workforce services appropriations 2861 01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:19,600 committee and that was reflected in our 2862 01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:22,239 appropriations that were allotted to us 2863 01:51:22,239 --> 01:51:24,800 for pillar 2. A large part of that was 2864 01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:26,560 for the expansion of these these 2865 01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:28,480 innovative projects. So, thank you for 2866 01:51:28,480 --> 01:51:29,760 bringing it forward and and we're 2867 01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:31,440 certainly uh we're certainly tracking 2868 01:51:31,440 --> 01:51:32,719 that closely. 2869 01:51:32,719 --> 01:51:35,280 >> Thank you very much. 2870 01:51:35,280 --> 01:51:36,320 >> Question. 2871 01:51:36,320 --> 01:51:38,560 >> We got one more question. Um Tyler, I 2872 01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:40,080 don't want to put you on the spot, but 2873 01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:41,840 could you let us know kind of what 2874 01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:44,080 things are looking like in that April to 2875 01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:47,040 July time frame right now of funding 2876 01:51:47,040 --> 01:51:49,119 coming online on July one, but your 2877 01:51:49,119 --> 01:51:51,199 response kind of beginning to ramp in 2878 01:51:51,199 --> 01:51:52,880 April? 2879 01:51:52,880 --> 01:51:54,639 Certainly. So, what what Molly's 2880 01:51:54,639 --> 01:51:57,119 referencing is over the past couple of 2881 01:51:57,119 --> 01:51:59,199 years, there was some legislation that 2882 01:51:59,199 --> 01:52:02,639 passed that allowed homeless shelters to 2883 01:52:02,639 --> 01:52:05,679 go above and beyond their permits for 2884 01:52:05,679 --> 01:52:08,719 occupancy because of the need for the 2885 01:52:08,719 --> 01:52:12,239 extreme cold in the winter and and it 2886 01:52:12,239 --> 01:52:13,520 was called winter response. And then 2887 01:52:13,520 --> 01:52:15,199 beyond that, there was a code blue that 2888 01:52:15,199 --> 01:52:17,440 I know you're all very familiar with. 2889 01:52:17,440 --> 01:52:20,080 Well, there was funding that was 2890 01:52:20,080 --> 01:52:22,639 appropriated by the Office of Homeless 2891 01:52:22,639 --> 01:52:25,440 Services 2892 01:52:25,440 --> 01:52:29,199 to help provide these costs for winter 2893 01:52:29,199 --> 01:52:30,719 response. 2894 01:52:30,719 --> 01:52:33,199 That funding was funded with one-time 2895 01:52:33,199 --> 01:52:35,599 money. And so it was never ongoing 2896 01:52:35,599 --> 01:52:39,599 funding um for winter response. And also 2897 01:52:39,599 --> 01:52:41,679 what happened is that winter response 2898 01:52:41,679 --> 01:52:44,639 then turned into spring, summer, fall, 2899 01:52:44,639 --> 01:52:46,560 and then winter again. So, it was 2900 01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:48,960 essentially held pretty consistent over 2901 01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:51,760 the past couple of years. Well, as Molly 2902 01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:53,440 mentioned, all of that funding is coming 2903 01:52:53,440 --> 01:52:57,520 to a close on April 30th, and there's 2904 01:52:57,520 --> 01:53:00,880 687 beds that are currently propped up 2905 01:53:00,880 --> 01:53:02,880 by that one-time funding that's set to 2906 01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:05,920 expire. So, we have new legislative 2907 01:53:05,920 --> 01:53:08,080 appropriations that come in on January, 2908 01:53:08,080 --> 01:53:12,159 excuse me, July 1st. And um so, the 2909 01:53:12,159 --> 01:53:14,800 question is, how do we navigate this? 2910 01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:16,719 Um, there's a there's a couple of 2911 01:53:16,719 --> 01:53:18,560 different questions at play and I don't 2912 01:53:18,560 --> 01:53:20,880 want to bore you with the details, but 2913 01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:23,520 we're really looking hard at the cost 2914 01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:25,920 effectiveness of every dollar that we're 2915 01:53:25,920 --> 01:53:30,880 spending. Um, the short of it is we want 2916 01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:33,119 to invest in long-term solutions. We 2917 01:53:33,119 --> 01:53:35,280 want to invest in the life saving 2918 01:53:35,280 --> 01:53:38,080 shelter. Um, but at the same time, we 2919 01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:39,760 the number that it's at, which is about 2920 01:53:39,760 --> 01:53:41,920 a million dollars extra per month, is 2921 01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:45,440 not quite sustainable. So, what we're 2922 01:53:45,440 --> 01:53:47,040 working on in our office is we're trying 2923 01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:50,880 to find some funding to bridge us from 2924 01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:54,480 April 30th to July 1st. We're still 2925 01:53:54,480 --> 01:53:59,199 shaking all the couch cush cushions and trying to find every dollar and cent 2926 01:53:59,199 --> 01:54:02,400 that we can for this situation. And 2927 01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:04,639 we're also going to be deploying uh 2928 01:54:04,639 --> 01:54:07,360 essentially mobile case management. So, 2929 01:54:07,360 --> 01:54:09,440 at the West Valley Overflow Shelter, 2930 01:54:09,440 --> 01:54:12,000 West Valley, I just want to shout I 2931 01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:13,199 don't know if West Valley's in the room. 2932 01:54:13,199 --> 01:54:14,560 I just want to give them a big shout 2933 01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:17,360 out. They have stepped up in a huge way. 2934 01:54:17,360 --> 01:54:20,800 Um, West Valley has been a a a real 2935 01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:23,840 blessing to the system by standing up a 2936 01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:27,440 shelter and and and serving uh about 200 2937 01:54:27,440 --> 01:54:31,040 people every single day. So, just take 2938 01:54:31,040 --> 01:54:33,119 West Valley Overflow shelter for 2939 01:54:33,119 --> 01:54:36,320 example, because they are building the 2940 01:54:36,320 --> 01:54:38,159 plane in the air, if you will, they 2941 01:54:38,159 --> 01:54:40,639 don't have case management. So clients 2942 01:54:40,639 --> 01:54:43,840 that go there, um it's a it truly is 2943 01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:46,880 emergency shelter and the goal in Utah's 2944 01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:48,719 explicit goal of homelessness is to move 2945 01:54:48,719 --> 01:54:51,040 people on from homelessness. So we're 2946 01:54:51,040 --> 01:54:52,639 going to try and bridge with the 2947 01:54:52,639 --> 01:54:54,400 funding, but then we're also going to 2948 01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:56,639 try and bridge with case management to 2949 01:54:56,639 --> 01:55:00,320 do a full scope review of all the beds 2950 01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:02,800 that are currently online in the system 2951 01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:05,440 where they exist. And then we also want 2952 01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:09,599 to help people exit um and go into those 2953 01:55:09,599 --> 01:55:11,679 beds. So if it's a drug treatment bed, 2954 01:55:11,679 --> 01:55:13,599 if it's a housing voucher, if it's 2955 01:55:13,599 --> 01:55:16,320 mental health, if it's a rapid rehousing 2956 01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:18,239 uh or permanent supportive housing bed, 2957 01:55:18,239 --> 01:55:19,440 we want to make sure that we're 2958 01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:21,520 utilizing all of those spots and and and 2959 01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:24,080 doing and doing that essentially taking 2960 01:55:24,080 --> 01:55:26,400 case management on the road and helping 2961 01:55:26,400 --> 01:55:32,639 people find these exits. So um that's what we're looking at. We are uh 2962 01:55:32,639 --> 01:55:35,520 presenting kind of the initial piece of 2963 01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:38,800 the um initial piece of the puzzle 2964 01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:40,639 tomorrow at the homeless services board 2965 01:55:40,639 --> 01:55:42,560 meeting. I'm going to share a little bit 2966 01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:44,400 more in depth about what we're seeking 2967 01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:47,119 to do. Um but it's an all hands-on deck 2968 01:55:47,119 --> 01:55:49,920 effort. So, we're we're seeing what 2969 01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:51,599 money the state can bring to bear. And 2970 01:55:51,599 --> 01:55:53,199 then if cities or counties or 2971 01:55:53,199 --> 01:55:58,560 philanthropic partners are inclined to support this effort as well, uh we we 2972 01:55:58,560 --> 01:55:59,760 would welcome that as we're really 2973 01:55:59,760 --> 01:56:02,560 trying to avert what Molly described as 2974 01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:05,440 going from 687 to zero. And what that 2975 01:56:05,440 --> 01:56:07,520 would do for our for our system as a 2976 01:56:07,520 --> 01:56:09,440 whole. So, it's a tough challenge. It 2977 01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:11,520 wasn't what I wanted to hear the first 2978 01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:14,000 um 48 hours I walked into the office. A 2979 01:56:14,000 --> 01:56:16,320 new crisis to deal with. Um, but I can't 2980 01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:18,960 look we we can't look back. We can only 2981 01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:20,400 look forward. And so this is a 2982 01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:22,560 opportunity we've been working with our 2983 01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:27,199 cities, our service providers, and and I'll tell you what, Mayor Bradshaw 2984 01:56:27,199 --> 01:56:28,960 kind of nailed it earlier as I was 2985 01:56:28,960 --> 01:56:31,360 listening to your meeting. There is a 2986 01:56:31,360 --> 01:56:34,560 big um big overlap of people who are 2987 01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:36,400 committed, who want to help, and we're 2988 01:56:36,400 --> 01:56:37,360 going to we're going to build that 2989 01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:40,080 teamwork. So um that's that's kind of 2990 01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:42,560 the status update right now, Molly. And 2991 01:56:42,560 --> 01:56:44,719 hopefully as we continue on, we'll we'll 2992 01:56:44,719 --> 01:56:47,599 be able to fill in more detail as we go. 2993 01:56:47,599 --> 01:56:50,320 >> Thank you so much. 2994 01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:53,840 >> Hey, thank you so much. And um you know, 2995 01:56:53,840 --> 01:56:55,360 we look we really look forward to 2996 01:56:55,360 --> 01:56:58,960 partnering with you and in this new role 2997 01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:03,119 and um we'll work to be as supportive as 2998 01:57:03,119 --> 01:57:04,639 we can be and make sure we give you good 2999 01:57:04,639 --> 01:57:06,480 feedback and good people to be part of 3000 01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:08,560 your work group. So we'll plan to 3001 01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:10,159 hopefully see you in St. George in 3002 01:57:10,159 --> 01:57:13,119 April. Um, if you decide you can't make 3003 01:57:13,119 --> 01:57:16,639 it down, we'll forgive you, but you're 3004 01:57:16,639 --> 01:57:19,360 definitely invited if you make it down. 3005 01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:20,960 >> Well, thank you, Mayor Bradshaw, and 3006 01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:22,880 thank you to the whole team and to all 3007 01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:24,639 our uh great city leaders that are here 3008 01:57:24,639 --> 01:57:26,560 today. Uh, it's always been a pleasure 3009 01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:28,159 working with you on Capitol Hill, and 3010 01:57:28,159 --> 01:57:29,440 hope to continue building those 3011 01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:31,520 partnerships. So, I'm going to text uh 3012 01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:34,159 Molly. I'll text Molly my my new email 3013 01:57:34,159 --> 01:57:35,760 address and make sure you have my cell 3014 01:57:35,760 --> 01:57:37,679 phone. Feel free to disseminate that 3015 01:57:37,679 --> 01:57:39,440 however is appropriate. So, but 3016 01:57:39,440 --> 01:57:41,360 seriously, thanks again and excited to 3017 01:57:41,360 --> 01:57:44,960 keep uh keep the momentum rolling. 3018 01:57:44,960 --> 01:57:47,040 >> So much. 3019 01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:49,840 >> Thanks, Tyler. We'll be in touch. Thanks 3020 01:57:49,840 --> 01:57:51,760 for the time today. Now, we're we're at 3021 01:57:51,760 --> 01:57:54,320 two o'clock and we just saw that data. 3022 01:57:54,320 --> 01:57:55,920 League members stick with meetings even 3023 01:57:55,920 --> 01:57:57,840 if they 3024 01:57:57,840 --> 01:58:02,229 >> That was not the take away. Remember, 3025 01:58:02,239 --> 01:58:05,520 » I will be done by 3026 01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:06,719 three more minutes. continue to know the 3027 01:58:06,719 --> 01:58:08,000 camera and I were right outside was like 3028 01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:09,679 look at your agenda and he's like I can 3029 01:58:09,679 --> 01:58:11,520 do this in three minutes 3030 01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:16,320 >> starting now. So thank you thanks to the lead team most of the preparation 3031 01:58:16,320 --> 01:58:17,840 for today's meeting as you saw came from 3032 01:58:17,840 --> 01:58:20,000 other league members along thank you 3033 01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:22,080 very much for the excellent discussion 3034 01:58:22,080 --> 01:58:24,159 and presentation today just to wrap the 3035 01:58:24,159 --> 01:58:26,159 legislative piece of mention two quick 3036 01:58:26,159 --> 01:58:27,920 conversations I had with two legislators 3037 01:58:27,920 --> 01:58:31,679 this or this session and one legislator 3038 01:58:31,679 --> 01:58:33,199 told me in the morning that he was going 3039 01:58:33,199 --> 01:58:34,320 to vote for a bill that the league 3040 01:58:34,320 --> 01:58:35,840 opposed 3041 01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:37,440 and that afternoon in committee he voted 3042 01:58:37,440 --> 01:58:39,760 against it when I asked him why he said 3043 01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:43,040 my mayor called me and I can't say no to 3044 01:58:43,040 --> 01:58:44,880 my man. 3045 01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:46,960 >> Okay, I'm going to share that from the 3046 01:58:46,960 --> 01:58:49,360 stage at midyear, but I'm not going to 3047 01:58:49,360 --> 01:58:51,199 share his identity because I told him I 3048 01:58:51,199 --> 01:58:52,400 wanted, but I think that's a very 3049 01:58:52,400 --> 01:58:54,480 powerful example of the collective 3050 01:58:54,480 --> 01:58:57,760 strength of the league. Um, second, the 3051 01:58:57,760 --> 01:58:59,920 legislator standing next to him ordered 3052 01:58:59,920 --> 01:59:02,719 that and me and said, "You guys do a 3053 01:59:02,719 --> 01:59:04,880 better job of anybody at mobilizing your 3054 01:59:04,880 --> 01:59:06,800 people." And I said, "Well, thank you." 3055 01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:08,480 And that was a freshman, so this was his 3056 01:59:08,480 --> 01:59:10,639 second his second year. So he doesn't 3057 01:59:10,639 --> 01:59:11,760 have all the institutional it's just 3058 01:59:11,760 --> 01:59:13,360 what he's seen the last two years and 3059 01:59:13,360 --> 01:59:14,560 was really impressed with how we 3060 01:59:14,560 --> 01:59:17,119 mobilize our members. So when we meet in 3061 01:59:17,119 --> 01:59:20,000 April you'll see the reference here um 3062 01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:21,679 to the board objectives and for those of 3063 01:59:21,679 --> 01:59:23,440 you who are new to the board in the 3064 01:59:23,440 --> 01:59:25,119 April meeting that's when we have 3065 01:59:25,119 --> 01:59:26,960 everybody in person prior to midyear the 3066 01:59:26,960 --> 01:59:28,239 day before the midyear conference we 3067 01:59:28,239 --> 01:59:29,599 break the board up into small workg 3068 01:59:29,599 --> 01:59:32,320 groupoups for small periods of time and 3069 01:59:32,320 --> 01:59:34,000 do deep dives on different topics. So 3070 01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:35,679 we'll for sure do that that talks 3071 01:59:35,679 --> 01:59:37,199 strategically about local administrative 3072 01:59:37,199 --> 01:59:39,040 advisor and there'll be other topics 3073 01:59:39,040 --> 01:59:40,880 we'll hit as well. We saw some of them 3074 01:59:40,880 --> 01:59:43,119 are listed here on the agenda because 3075 01:59:43,119 --> 01:59:44,960 we're still working through where we 3076 01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:46,639 need your direction and those small 3077 01:59:46,639 --> 01:59:48,159 groups really bring out some really 3078 01:59:48,159 --> 01:59:51,679 great discussion. So just be prepared uh 3079 01:59:51,679 --> 01:59:53,679 for that for those of you who are new. 3080 01:59:53,679 --> 01:59:55,520 That also helps inform the budget 3081 01:59:55,520 --> 01:59:58,000 process. You approve the dues in January 3082 01:59:58,000 --> 02:00:00,320 that makes up more than 60% of our 3083 02:00:00,320 --> 02:00:02,159 revenue every year. The rest of it comes 3084 02:00:02,159 --> 02:00:04,639 from primarily from sponsorships and 3085 02:00:04,639 --> 02:00:07,280 then from from other event related fees. 3086 02:00:07,280 --> 02:00:08,880 And then when you set the budget 3087 02:00:08,880 --> 02:00:10,560 tenatively in May and final budget in 3088 02:00:10,560 --> 02:00:13,440 June, it's really personnel events and 3089 02:00:13,440 --> 02:00:14,960 then policy and communication 3090 02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:16,400 priorities, some of which we talked 3091 02:00:16,400 --> 02:00:18,320 about today with making sense of dollars 3092 02:00:18,320 --> 02:00:20,400 and the property tax outreach. So we'll 3093 02:00:20,400 --> 02:00:22,239 be building that out based on your 3094 02:00:22,239 --> 02:00:24,000 feedback as we bring the budget back to 3095 02:00:24,000 --> 02:00:26,159 you. Um if there are other thoughts 3096 02:00:26,159 --> 02:00:28,159 about LPC, let Justin know. We had a 3097 02:00:28,159 --> 02:00:29,920 really robust discussion, David. there 3098 02:00:29,920 --> 02:00:31,199 other thoughts, please let him know and 3099 02:00:31,199 --> 02:00:33,840 we may revisit that in April. We've also 3100 02:00:33,840 --> 02:00:35,119 been trying to focus on our newly 3101 02:00:35,119 --> 02:00:36,239 elected mayors and council members 3102 02:00:36,239 --> 02:00:37,760 around the state. So, I mentioned this 3103 02:00:37,760 --> 02:00:39,920 the January meeting that council member 3104 02:00:39,920 --> 02:00:41,679 Hinton hosted a meeting along with Mayor 3105 02:00:41,679 --> 02:00:43,520 Bimbo in southwestern Utah with a bunch 3106 02:00:43,520 --> 02:00:45,840 of newly electeds. Um, council member 3107 02:00:45,840 --> 02:00:47,760 Tolley in Park City hosted an event for 3108 02:00:47,760 --> 02:00:50,400 newly electeds. Then to MAG where over 3109 02:00:50,400 --> 02:00:52,239 half of the mayors in MAG are new. 3110 02:00:52,239 --> 02:00:55,199 Molly's going to be um in the UN basin 3111 02:00:55,199 --> 02:00:57,119 on April 1st for their event because 3112 02:00:57,119 --> 02:00:59,040 every mayor in the UN basin is new. Oh, 3113 02:00:59,040 --> 02:01:01,040 he's will be some. Who's going to be 3114 02:01:01,040 --> 02:01:01,440 there? 3115 02:01:01,440 --> 02:01:02,080 >> Jared will be 3116 02:01:02,080 --> 02:01:03,760 >> Jared. Sorry. Sorry. This I was out. 3117 02:01:03,760 --> 02:01:05,920 Jared McKenna will be there. Then I'm 3118 02:01:05,920 --> 02:01:08,639 doing an event in Monaceel on April 13th 3119 02:01:08,639 --> 02:01:10,480 because every mayor in San Juan County 3120 02:01:10,480 --> 02:01:13,199 is new and most of their council members 3121 02:01:13,199 --> 02:01:15,520 doing that event. Uh we're also going to 3122 02:01:15,520 --> 02:01:18,239 be at the R six event in May and we're 3123 02:01:18,239 --> 02:01:19,920 in conversations with Serta to do an 3124 02:01:19,920 --> 02:01:22,239 event uh later this year. And then we 3125 02:01:22,239 --> 02:01:23,840 also have conferences in the next few 3126 02:01:23,840 --> 02:01:25,119 weeks with the city managers, city 3127 02:01:25,119 --> 02:01:26,400 attorneys, the treasurers, government 3128 02:01:26,400 --> 02:01:28,719 finance officers, planners, and others 3129 02:01:28,719 --> 02:01:30,159 as we're trying to do our spring 3130 02:01:30,159 --> 02:01:31,280 training and our spring training 3131 02:01:31,280 --> 02:01:35,119 webinars kick off this week. And so we 3132 02:01:35,119 --> 02:01:37,360 are uh even though the session just 3133 02:01:37,360 --> 02:01:39,920 ended, we are out and about and it's a 3134 02:01:39,920 --> 02:01:41,199 again I really appreciate the 3135 02:01:41,199 --> 02:01:43,040 flexibility of the family leave and want 3136 02:01:43,040 --> 02:01:47,199 to thank our team for um stepping up and doing some phenomenal work over the 3137 02:01:47,199 --> 02:01:48,560 last couple of weeks and then the next 3138 02:01:48,560 --> 02:01:51,760 couple weeks um to go. If you have other 3139 02:01:51,760 --> 02:01:53,360 thoughts about potential discussion 3140 02:01:53,360 --> 02:01:55,599 topics in April, please let us know. And 3141 02:01:55,599 --> 02:01:56,639 if you have other thoughts about the 3142 02:01:56,639 --> 02:01:59,040 session, please let us know. Uh we've 3143 02:01:59,040 --> 02:02:01,119 sent out the newsletters. Uh so there 3144 02:02:01,119 --> 02:02:03,520 was a few commentator posted on that 3145 02:02:03,520 --> 02:02:05,119 front, but otherwise this has been a 3146 02:02:05,119 --> 02:02:06,400 terrific meeting. We appreciate the 3147 02:02:06,400 --> 02:02:07,760 time. President Bradshaw, I'll turn it 3148 02:02:07,760 --> 02:02:08,560 back to you. 3149 02:02:08,560 --> 02:02:09,760 >> That was really impressive. I should 3150 02:02:09,760 --> 02:02:12,480 have started a timer. I didn't there. 3151 02:02:12,480 --> 02:02:15,040 Yeah, I'll give it to him. Yeah. 3152 02:02:15,040 --> 02:02:17,040 >> Three minutes. 3153 02:02:17,040 --> 02:02:20,239 >> Oh wow. 3154 02:02:20,239 --> 02:02:25,430 That's why nobody likes lawyers. 3155 02:02:25,440 --> 02:02:28,000 » I enjoy spending time with this. I have 3156 02:02:28,000 --> 02:02:29,280 so we're still a little punchy after 3157 02:02:29,280 --> 02:02:29,920 session. 3158 02:02:29,920 --> 02:02:32,880 >> I have missed you uh you guys you know 3159 02:02:32,880 --> 02:02:36,000 daily for hours on it. 3160 02:02:36,000 --> 02:02:38,320 Okay. Uh so we reached the end of our 3161 02:02:38,320 --> 02:02:42,000 agenda unless there is any other 3162 02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:44,480 if not then I look forward to seeing you 3163 02:02:44,480 --> 02:02:47,440 all in St. George. Christa, I hope you 3164 02:02:47,440 --> 02:02:49,199 have arranged for the weather to be nice 3165 02:02:49,199 --> 02:02:51,280 but not too hot since we're already 3166 02:02:51,280 --> 02:02:53,360 experiencing what we expect from Maple 3167 02:02:53,360 --> 02:02:56,159 and St. George on the Wasach front. 3168 02:02:56,159 --> 02:02:57,760 >> We're in process. 3169 02:02:57,760 --> 02:03:06,870 >> Please, please hold it in the 70s. 3170 02:03:06,880 --> 02:03:12,550 » Temperature no greater than 75 degrees 3171 02:03:12,560 --> 02:03:14,480 » with an evening rainstorm like last 3172 02:03:14,480 --> 02:03:15,280 year. 3173 02:03:15,280 --> 02:03:16,320 >> That's right. Yes, 3174 02:03:16,320 --> 02:03:18,000 >> that's a cool lightning storm, 3175 02:03:18,000 --> 02:03:20,320 >> but not until after we finish bike ride. 3176 02:03:20,320 --> 02:03:21,280 >> After the bike ride, 3177 02:03:21,280 --> 02:03:24,000 >> say before everyone exits, bravo to our 3178 02:03:24,000 --> 02:03:27,599 league staff and all of you that that 3179 02:03:27,599 --> 02:03:29,599 were up on the hill spending so much 3180 02:03:29,599 --> 02:03:32,080 time. Thank you on behalf of all of us 3181 02:03:32,080 --> 02:03:35,360 out in the hinterland. 3182 02:03:35,360 --> 02:03:37,360 >> Thank you. Yes, our staff did an amazing 3183 02:03:37,360 --> 02:03:42,470 job. So, round of applause for them. 3184 02:03:42,480 --> 02:03:45,440 And uh with that uh I will entertain a 3185 02:03:45,440 --> 02:03:47,599 motion to adjourn and please supplement 3186 02:03:47,599 --> 02:03:50,000 that with the directive that Cameron go 3187 02:03:50,000 --> 02:03:53,360 home and finish his leave with the 3188 02:03:53,360 --> 02:03:54,000 kiddos. 3189 02:03:54,000 --> 02:03:55,119 >> So moved. 3190 02:03:55,119 --> 02:03:55,920 >> Second. 3191 02:03:55,920 --> 02:03:57,119 >> All right, we have a motion to second. 3192 02:03:57,119 --> 02:03:59,040 All in favor, please say I. 3193 02:03:59,040 --> 02:04:01,760 >> I. 3194 02:04:01,760 --> 02:04:03,760 >> Thank you everyone. Thanks for the time. 3195 02:04:03,760 --> 02:04:06,639 Thank you in discussion.