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And welcome board members. I'm going to

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call to order the Monday, May 18th

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meeting of the Utah League of Cities and

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Towns Board of Directors.

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Welcome everyone on this uh spring day

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that feels a little more like spring

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than some of

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the last 3 months.

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first uh item uh is going to be

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my favorite item

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which is a Slido version of Would You

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Rather.

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Um I've I've missed doing these with you

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and so I thought deeply about this.

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Would You Rather

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um

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and it corresponds with both

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the major happening of this week and

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next week which are high school

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graduations across the state.

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Um and until last night's rainstorm

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really the start of summer.

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And so uh hopefully

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Carson

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was able to get the Slido

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>> getting it up. Carson made us a Slido.

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I'm a poor substitute for Carson, but

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>> Okay. Hopefully that works. So I

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I'm stalling while the Slido pops up,

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but in corresponding with both uh both

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of those things are Would You Rather.

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uh Would You Rather Oh god, sorry. You

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got to share

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I've shared it so really long.

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Again, tied to both the weather and the

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end of school.

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>> [laughter]

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» How's my Slido? Hold on.

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All right, I'm going to tell everyone so

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you can be thinking about it and then

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we'll put it on the board.

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So the is Would you rather

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repeat junior high

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>> or

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live through the next three summers

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without air conditioning?

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yeah.

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>> [laughter]

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» If you had to

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watch junior high over and you're going

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to come back right away or you just go

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all the way back?

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Hey, would you rather repeat junior high

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all three all three years

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or live the next three summers

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without air conditioning? What if you

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only had two years of junior high?

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this is a middle school.

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All right, we may never get to Slido

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but I'll give you a little

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baby you without official Slido results.

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That's okay. Hey, I think the unofficial

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poll is 100% junior high. Yeah, that for

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those of you

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But if you wake up tomorrow and we know

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what we know now, would you still go

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through junior high? You have to

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>> go through the whole experience, the

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acne, the braces, the hair.

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Uh okay, so for those of you online

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uh the seven participants in the room

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is they're all going to go with the air

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conditioning option.

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some comments in the chat, so if there's

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any really good comments about um

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air conditioning versus junior high,

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we'll look forward to reading those.

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thanks for indulging my love of would

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you rathers.

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Next on our agenda is a review and

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approval of the minutes and a call for

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any uh conflict of interest disclosures.

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Uh board, I hope you has had an

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opportunity to review the minutes that

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were distributed in our packet.

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review those minutes and is anyone

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prepared to make a motion?

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I'll move to approve.

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We have a motion from Mayor Winchell,

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seconded Councilmember Dugan.

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Seeing no hands popping up online. I

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throw Nick Broyles in, Nick.

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screen. All in favor of approving the

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minutes, please say I. I. I.

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We'll give it just a minute for any of

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those online. I know that we have

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several of our board members that are

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ICSC conference. Sorry that we

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picked that date, unfortunately.

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I'm back. Yeah, I can see the comments

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back here. Okay, uh looks like we've got

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eyes across the board on the motion

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Councilmember E,

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uh Councilmember Slay is reporting a yes

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to the snow.

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Councilmember Shumway is a That was a

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uh interest disclosures. Does anyone

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have anything they need to uh declare

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for this meeting or add to the

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disclosures that are on file?

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move on from that agenda item.

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Next item on our agenda is a report from

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Alexa related to ULCT boards and

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commissions and uh potential

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appointments. All right. Good morning,

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everyone. Um you might remember in our

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April board meeting, I updated you on

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several groups that were created during

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the 2026 legislative session. So, today

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we're going to be recommending two

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appointments for two of those newly

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created boards. The first one is going

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to be the Economic Development Council.

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council was created by HB 475 from the

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session. It's going to be housed out of

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the governor's office of economic

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development and is responsible for

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coordinating economic development

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projects with statewide or regional

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significance. Um

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you can see on the memo that I listed

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out the 10 different entities that are

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um that have representation on this

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board. And you'll notice that most of

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the entities, the statewide independent

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entities responsible for approving and

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leading out on economic development

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projects are represented on this board.

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received increased public and

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legislative attention in the past couple

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of months. So, GOED has requested that

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the executive directors from each of

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these appointing appointing authorities

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be represented on this group. So, we are

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recommending that you appoint Cameron to

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represent municipal interests on this

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group. The next, the Political

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Subdivisions Interim Committee Tax

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Increment Financing Work Group was also

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created this legislative session. This

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group is going to be responsible for

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recommending like a ceiling for the

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total amount of revenue that should be

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um generated and utilized through tax

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increment financing on a statewide

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basis. Um again, you can read through

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the seven different groups that are

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going to be represented on this board.

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Counties represented their CEO Brandy or

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appointed their CEO, excuse me, Brandy

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Grace to this board. So, because of this

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and because of the inherent overlap that

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this board is going to have with the

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Economic Development Council, we're also

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recommending that you appoint Cameron to

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the Tax Increment Financing Work Group

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as well. Um we'll go ahead and we'll

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pause on those and just really me if

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anyone has any

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questions on those two

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one's a council, one's a work group and

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any feedback or thoughts from the board

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having Cameron be our representative.

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Is this a one year, two year, four year?

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that is time limited and it is this in

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and we lobbied for a lead position on

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this on this committee because of all

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the discussions last session on tax

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increment. So, that'll be time limited. The economic

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development council is not time limited.

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in a way feels like

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we had the UEOC a few years ago and this

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is a smaller, more refined version of

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the UEOC. So, that one I would say is

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likely to continue through the rest of

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the governor's term, but the legislature

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repeal it any year.

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the policy resolution a couple of years

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ago and

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development. That'll be the starting

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point for the work here and then Justin

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section. That'll be

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that LPC in two [clears throat] weeks

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working on the summer. We intend to have

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advisory group on economic development.

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officials, our agency staff and

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everybody in between to help inform

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these two groups. But, we lobby for lead

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representation.

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I'd just like to ask Cameron if he has

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any concerns about how the the demands

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these assignments would impact your time

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going forward. I think both of them are

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going to be pretty time intensive, but

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again, we lobbied to make sure we got a

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seat at the table. And because as you

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know, Alex indicated, there's more

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public attention around large scale

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economic development than ever before.

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to talk about this as well, is that if

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we were to appoint

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a city's economic development director,

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or even if you were to appoint a mayor

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it could feed into the conversation of

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an individual project or an individual

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perspective as opposed to the broader

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perspective. And I think

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that's why it makes sense for me to

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prioritize it and

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advisory group that can help provide

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direction as we go forward.

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viewing the packet and talking with

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Cameron in advance about some of the

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hyperfocus that is

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inland ports, I think the pool of

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elected officials that we would go to

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we would run the risk of them then

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potentially

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becoming the focus of,

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you know,

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are these things which we've had

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not been in control of

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because has decided to create them,

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you know, becoming the focus and whether

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there would be any um

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you know, concerns that someone was, for

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instance, you know,

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Smith or Spanish Fork have a satellite

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inland port. So we're coming in West

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Valley or there's just there's lots of

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um

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kind of individual

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elements and they all have

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um

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they're all slightly different.

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Um yet they fall in this category, so

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that seemed like a a positive

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recommendation from my perspective.

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Nick, is there anyone uh from the board

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that is online that is has their hand

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raised or has any comments in the path

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on this topic that

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um

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in Summit County that has the attention

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of our friends at Mountain Accord.

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If you have time to back the board for

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conversation

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that can imagine being more than

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quarterly or

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They haven't been scheduled yet, so I

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asked Jeff Moss about this a couple

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weeks ago and they were waiting for

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everybody to get to the finances. I

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expect they'll get scheduled this week

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since the legislature

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meetings start this week. But yeah, they

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the intent with the advisory group would

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be as we've done with other advisory

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groups, funneling all the feedback to

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the board and then making sure we're

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getting feedback from the board, LPC,

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and the

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Any other

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questions, feedback on these two in

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particular before we move on to

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the rest of the executive's report?

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Okay. Thank you. If none, we'll go to

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the next one. Perfect. I just have one,

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so those are the only items that we need

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action on today. I just have one update

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that we will likely take action on at

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our next board meeting in June. So, U C

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T has two seats on the Utah

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Communications Authority Governing

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Board. The current representatives on

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that board are Ogden City Administrator

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Meira Brown and St. George Government

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Affairs Director Shawn Guzman. Um

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Meira's term does not end until August

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2028 and Shawn's doesn't end until

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August 2027. However, Meira is stepping

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down from her role at Ogden City and

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Shawn is retiring from St. George. They

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both plan on staying in the city world

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doing some contract labor um for several

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cities, but um we and there are they've

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expressed interest in remaining on the

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board as well, but I believe over the

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next month U C T staff and the executive

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board will talk about how best to

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proceed with those positions and if we

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need to make new appointments at the

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next board meeting. So,

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just keep an eye out for that. But,

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that's all I have. I'm happy to answer

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any questions about those and do we want

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to make a motion on the

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first two committees today or have more

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time to talk about that? Before we go to

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motion, I want to just mention on the U

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Tech Communication Authority, I know

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that um

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both Shawn and and Mera have served well

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and have done a great job. I know there

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are some changes contemplated um in that

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space about uh potential construction of

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a

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uh

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an EOC for dispatch and I

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uh I know that some of our piece apps

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have some thoughts and concerns there

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and so I I want us to maybe over the

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next 30 days just be thoughtful about

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making sure that the representation we

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send

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is going to

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have

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uh real relevant expertise in terms of

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our dispatch and emergency communication

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needs um

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statewide. So, um

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it may be that that our current dynamic

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duo is still the best duo, but want us

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to all be

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uh thinking about it through that lens

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and maybe checking in with your

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uh

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piece apps to, you know, get some uh

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feedback as well.

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If there's any feedback you have on

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that, you can send that to me and I'll

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compile it and make sure I present that

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to Shawn and Cameron too.

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Um okay, with that, any other thoughts,

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questions, feedback?

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If not, is there anyone that is prepared

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to make a motion on the Economic

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Development Council and the um Global

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Subs Tax Increment Financing Work Group?

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I hope you put that on a resume.

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So, motion from Council Regret would

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second it from Council Regret. Dugan,

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uh any discussion?

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Being none, we'll call for the vote. All

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in favor uh of um submitting Cameron's

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name to recommend this on these two

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different uh organizations, please say

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I. I. I. I.

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We'll give a moment just to

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I.

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hear from our online cohort.

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Looks like we're seeing eyes across the

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board. Uh anyone else?

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Cameron, looks like you have some fun

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summer assignments.

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All right.

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Uh

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we'll move on to the next item on our

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agenda, which is our Juneteenth holiday

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policy update. Nick, this is your item

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to discuss with the board. Yes, thank

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you. Very briefly. Um so, a law was

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passed in this last legislative session

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that will go into effect for next year's

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Juneteenth that will line up the state

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observed holiday with the federal

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holiday and have it actually be on uh

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June 19th. Uh 2026 is still an off year.

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The The 19th falls on a uh Friday.

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However, state law currently says it has

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to be the preceding Monday, so it's

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going to be like the 15th or something

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around there. Um we're asking the board

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just to go a year early

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um to get it in line with what the state

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law will be going in 2027. Um as you can

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see, the four of us uh our Juneteenth is

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the day Juneteenth is observed by the

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state of Utah. We're just saying, "Nope,

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it's the 19th. That's how it will be for

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the state going forward." And we're

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saying, "You know what? It makes sense

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to do it this year at the long Friday."

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So,

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that's all.

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Uh I am so glad that as a state we've

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been on this journey.

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We're just saying we will align with

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Uh any any questions or feedback on

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this? Um

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believe that you need Do you need a

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motion for us to have the full legal

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opinion? We do, yeah. So, as you can see

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here in the packet, this is the This is

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our policy that have our observed

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holidays, and this would just be a

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change to our uh personnel policies.

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Anyone prepared to make a motion to that

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effect?

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I so move.

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It's okay. Thank you, Mayor Weishar.

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Second from Councilwoman Dugan. Uh,

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second. I'll try to get from Mayor

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Dalski. Who's better? Who's better?

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I'm sorry.

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Um,

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it any further discussion to that

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motion?

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If not, we'll call for that vote. All in

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favor of accepting this change to make

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our June 10th National Freedom Day

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a holiday, uh, June 19th, please say I.

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I. I.

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Any opposed?

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Looks like that passes unanimously.

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Okay, moving on. Um,

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thank you, everyone who took time to be

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uh, with us in St. George and

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participate in the um, great strategic

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board session discussions. Um,

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you know, I always There's lots to

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enjoy, of course, about our major

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conference in St. George, but this uh,

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board meeting I think is has um,

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really become a great time for us to

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check in and

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uh,

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see what we're doing well, see where we

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continue to seek improvement. And so,

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um, this item's going to be a report on

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the feedback from those strategic

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discussions in our breakout groups that

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we had. Um, Cameron, are you going to be

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leading this or is this Okay.

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Perfect. Uh, thank you, President

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Bradshaw. Again, thank you, everybody,

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for your time in St. George. It was our

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second largest mid-year ever with

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over 600

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uh, registrants, and then we throw on

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top of that all the vendors, exhibitors.

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I would say 800 people in the building.

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So, it was absolutely fantastic to have

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everybody there.

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The

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as we told you when we started that

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board meeting, we look forward to that

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April board meeting every year because

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it's the opportunity to roll up our

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sleeves and talk about

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the direction of the organization. And I

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want to thank Nick, Molly, and Justin

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for their leadership in the different

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discussion groups as we walked through

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operations, advocacy, and engagement. We

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don't want to rehash those discussions

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now. What we tried to do in the work

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before you is we went through every

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comment and went back through

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all of the feedback, and we summarized

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it here both

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with uh according to the questions that

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we asked you, but also what we viewed

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more of the staff takeaways and

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potential next steps.

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So, Nick has it scanned down on the uh

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start just on that operations side.

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Uh we appreciate the feedback about the

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board nomination process. And so, you

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can see that the staff takeaways and

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next steps here would be to to create

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more user-friendly materials to explain

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how the process works. And the good news

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is over the last few years, we've had

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anywhere from three to five times the

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number of applications than we have

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slots available. So, there's a

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tremendous interest in people running

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for the board.

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Um but there is there's always ways to

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improve how we announce that process,

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and and per our bylaws, that will get

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underway this summer. So, thank you for

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the feedback there. On the budget

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bifurcation,

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you know, I'll talk about this when I

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get into the tentative budget that we're

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presenting to you today, but we have

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kept local administrative advisor

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funding separate from the core budget.

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And per your feedback, we'll continue

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with that budget bifurcation

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um for LAA and anything else that's in

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that related space. Then we also got

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00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,000
good feedback from you about the future

565
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,400
of the annual convention with the Salt

566
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,720
Palace going under renovation. And so,

567
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,400
based on the feedback that you provided

568
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,480
us, uh we will be following up with uh a

569
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,160
variety of facilities in Salt Lake City

570
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,760
and in other places around the state uh

571
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,520
looking at the 2027 API. And just as a

572
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,320
reminder, per the league constitution um

573
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:10,760
the board has to fix the date and place

574
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,840
of the annual convention unless

575
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,000
otherwise fixed and determined at the

576
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,520
preceding annual convention. And so

577
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,574
because of the self Alice construction

578
00:21:18,574 --> 00:21:18,640
>> [snorts]

579
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,880
>> we won't be able

580
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,720
we won't need actually to set that date

581
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,800
this summer for 2027. We won't be able

582
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,000
to wait until the 2026 con here

583
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,760
convention to announce it for 2027. So

584
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,360
that's why we're we're bringing it back

585
00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:33,360
to the board later this summer once

586
00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:35,040
we've gathered this additional

587
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,440
information.

588
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,280
Before we go to the engagement recap the

589
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,480
really the primary board question is is

590
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,200
there anything that we're missing from

591
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,880
the recap? Is there anything that has

592
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,640
come to your mind in the three weeks

593
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,080
since midyear you want to make sure to

594
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,520
emphasize? So I'll just walk through

595
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,320
each section and then at the end of each

596
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,120
division just give you a chance to say I

597
00:21:56,120 --> 00:21:57,800
think you should emphasize this or you

598
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,080
missed that piece. So on the operations

599
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,360
side is there

600
00:22:00,360 --> 00:22:01,800
anything else

601
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,600
that you want to make sure we emphasize

602
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,590
in this recap?

603
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,280
Is there anything in the chat or um

604
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,240
any hands raised?

605
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:15,800
Okay.

606
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,240
All right. That one was pretty

607
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:18,520
straightforward. Let's jump over to the

608
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:19,800
engagement

609
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,680
breakout. Perfect. So engagement

610
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,120
breakout there were two primary

611
00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:26,440
questions. First we asked you for your

612
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,600
feedback on how to prioritize the local

613
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,040
government advisor funding and then the

614
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,840
second was

615
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,000
the league's role to facilitate

616
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,680
technical assistance beyond local

617
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,520
government advisor and then what

618
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,880
additional resources should support that

619
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,240
effort. So I'll start on the local

620
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,240
government advisor piece.

621
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,520
You as a you as board members

622
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,920
recommended training both the advisors

623
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,520
themselves. And so those are the

624
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,400
advisors that are housed at the various

625
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,840
AOGs around the state as well as the

626
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,840
in-house staff so the municipal clerks

627
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,840
and treasurers at at all of our LA

628
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,520
communities as well as their elected

629
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,000
officials. And then

630
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,800
you also raised the question of whether

631
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,440
hot LA qualified communities should

632
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:07,640
participate in a certain amount of

633
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,680
training in advance.

634
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,891
So with that as the context

635
00:23:11,891 --> 00:23:12,640
[clears throat] of what you provide to

636
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,520
us, I'm going to turn it over to McKenna

637
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,800
Merchant. McKenna, Meg Ryan and I

638
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,120
participated in all day

639
00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:21,720
strategic session with the governor's

640
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,760
office, the associations of government

641
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,080
and others last Tuesday where the

642
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,880
feedback that you gave us at the

643
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,680
strategic session, we were able to use

644
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,320
as part of that discussion just last

645
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,520
week. So McKenna can I I'm going to turn

646
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,800
it to you to just give a quick recap of

647
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,520
that May 12th meeting.

648
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:40,920
Yeah, you bet.

649
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,080
So in our May 12th meeting, we had all

650
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,760
those groups that Cam mentioned and it

651
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,640
was great to have the board's feedback

652
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,480
already informing the pieces that we

653
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,760
brought forward to the group.

654
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,240
So one of the the items that we brought

655
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,160
forward to them was what if there was

656
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,920
some threshold requirements for those at

657
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,520
receiving LA

658
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,880
technical assistance.

659
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,480
So one of the most popular threshold

660
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,280
requirements that they all agreed on,

661
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,400
which was a surprise to me, was that

662
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,800
they have at least one mayor, council

663
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,240
member, staff member, someone from the

664
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,240
community attend a ULCT conference or

665
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,160
regional training.

666
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,560
And so ULCT has been providing

667
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,480
scholarships with the office of the the

668
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,520
ombudsman's office providing that

669
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,440
funding and then we organized funding to

670
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,120
provide those scholarships for rural

671
00:24:34,120 --> 00:24:37,560
communities. We've been doing it for one

672
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,440
So they indicated that they were

673
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,240
happy with that and comfortable with

674
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,120
that. And then we also asked if we were

675
00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:47,640
to expand the resource pool

676
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,880
to be able to pull in additional experts

677
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,760
from that expert pool, who they would be

678
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,600
most interested in. They indicated that

679
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,560
they would be most interested in a legal

680
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,480
consultant mostly for questions, less

681
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,400
for legal counsel, a planning expert,

682
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,360
and a public works or engineering

683
00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:06,200
consultant both for operations

684
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,360
maintenance, and is also for capital

685
00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:10,080
improvement planning.

686
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,120
Um, with that, we also per so

687
00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:16,320
the the reporting for all of those LA's

688
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,800
is also undergoing some changes. So, we

689
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,480
also proposed some new reporting

690
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,840
elements for them, which would

691
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,720
essentially have all of the LA

692
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,720
communities compliant with various state

693
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,680
statutes, whether it is

694
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,280
um the the website ada.gov privacy

695
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:34,920
requirements,

696
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,600
um land use application checklist, and

697
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,440
budget process outlines.

698
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,360
So, does anybody have any questions

699
00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:43,760
about that meeting?

700
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,360
Did you guys did you guys touch on or

701
00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:46,160
maybe

702
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,480
going to further weeks, but grant

703
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,200
uh writing grant

704
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,640
uh submissions?

705
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,480
We did. So, we brought that up as one of

706
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,320
the options of like, "Hey, what if this

707
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,760
was like one of the experts?" Or if it

708
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,960
was something those communities need.

709
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,680
And and of course they're interested in

710
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,840
that, but right now they really just

711
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,480
need to focus on some of the basics.

712
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,000
Yes. And so, like procurement is always

713
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,520
very interesting for those communities,

714
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,760
but like you can only get to procurement

715
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,800
for additional funds once your legal is

716
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,750
functioning well.

717
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,120
Any uh feedback especially from any of

718
00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:28,440
our more rural communities on this

719
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,880
portion?

720
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,560
Okay, you hear Wincher. I know we have

721
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,520
Mayor Bruno online. Mayor Wagner right

722
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:41,190
now. Mayor Wagner, yeah.

723
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,160
I'm good with it.

724
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,400
Thank you.

725
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:46,400
All right.

726
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,200
Let's head to the next section then.

727
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,680
Perfect. Thank you, McKenna, and thank

728
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,720
you to the McKenna Bank for spending all

729
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,440
day there. I think it was really

730
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,080
insightful. It was the first time in a

731
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,560
while we've been able to be in the same

732
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,160
room with all of the LA's.

733
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,200
You know, around the state with AOG

734
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,800
leadership, Governor's office, and

735
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,280
everybody else in the other programs. It

736
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,400
is back to being fully funded. I'm super

737
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:09,480
excited about what they're doing. Just

738
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,720
as a reminder for everyone, in the first

739
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,400
year of that program,

740
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:14,920
the Local Government Services Advisor

741
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,240
was able to help 123 communities do all

742
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,640
projects around the state.

743
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,120
And it has been a a huge success, and

744
00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:25,240
it's the first one of its kind in the

745
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:26,960
country. And there are other state

746
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,680
leagues that are starting to follow the

747
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,200
lead of what we've done here.

748
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,160
And so, it's it was really exciting to

749
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,720
be in that room and have everybody do

750
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,560
basically Mechanic Bank for a show and

751
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:38,200
tell of what's been working and then

752
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,390
discuss what comes next.

753
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:43,600
So,

754
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,240
starting July 1, that's when the LA's

755
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,920
received the

756
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,200
um the the additional funding, the

757
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,080
$380,000 of ongoing funding, which in

758
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,360
years past we have used to fund

759
00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:58,080
Mechanic's position and to fund our

760
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,600
expert pool. And that's what we intend

761
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,280
to do going forward based on your

762
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,240
feedback and the feedback from the LA's

763
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,080
about how best to utilize those dollars.

764
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,600
At the board meeting, we also asked you

765
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,000
the question

766
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,760
of what should our exact role be in

767
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,160
facilitating this technical assistance?

768
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,200
And I want to thank Molly and Jennifer

769
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,960
for leading this discussion. So, I can

770
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:18,720
thank

771
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,040
um but the operations discussion. And

772
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,760
the two terms that just kept coming out

773
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,600
loud and clear, uh Molly, just make sure

774
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:26,840
we're on the same page here, we're

775
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,120
educator and connector, right? And

776
00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:30,920
that's consistent with what we've been

777
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,320
tasked that we're not the ones who

778
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,040
actually execute the technical

779
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,400
assistance, but we're the educator and

780
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,520
we're the connector. And we are that

781
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,400
glue that brings together

782
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:41,920
all of those existing trainings and

783
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,400
resources and other things that are that

784
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,440
are out there. And then this concept of

785
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,720
member member small connect you just to

786
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,920
articulate that that feedback? It's

787
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,440
something that happens informally, but

788
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:53,880
there may be an opportunity to formalize

789
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,160
it. Yeah, I think that's a good example.

790
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,960
And sorry, just to add a little bit more

791
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,840
as well, this is kind of for the beyond

792
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,680
the LA, right? So, the LA municipal

793
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,040
system is there, we're continuing to

794
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,320
build that out, but we've been getting

795
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,760
feedback over time from particularly our

796
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,840
ex-officio members of our community for

797
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,560
many people helping in the technical

798
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,960
systems. And so, a lot of the feedback

799
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,560
from the board was again, it's our job

800
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,600
to educate them where our resources are,

801
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,480
educating them on what to do, how to

802
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:20,680
find those resources, but not

803
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,440
necessarily provide those resources

804
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,640
directly. Um the members helping

805
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:25,920
members, I thought that was interesting.

806
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,960
We had a lot of folks mention, you know,

807
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,120
I have a great public works department.

808
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,440
I wouldn't be opposed to having my team,

809
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,320
you know, contract or not contract, but

810
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:36,880
kind of help or facilitate one of the

811
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,720
county one of these cities, you know,

812
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,560
for 5 to 10 hours a month. We'd be like

813
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,280
that kind of share

814
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,760
our in-house experts with other cities.

815
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,280
Um a lot of this happens naturally to

816
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,760
start with. You know, a lot of folks,

817
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,480
especially in our more rural areas,

818
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:53,960
there's kind of like an anchor city

819
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,920
manager that fields a lot of questions

820
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,000
that come in from smaller communities.

821
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,240
Um and so, one possible area to explore

822
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,480
was seeing is there a way to maybe

823
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,000
formalize things a bit more and say,

824
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,760
uh you know, we have our experts in the

825
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,400
league or maybe, you know, like we we

826
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,120
maintain that list in-house, and then I

827
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,600
know, okay,

828
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,240
um of the engineering departments, Salt

829
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,160
Lake, Ogden, Spanish Fork, and Bountiful

830
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,560
all said, "We're happy to give 5 hours a

831
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,680
month of engineering support." And so,

832
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,200
then as a city calls us with those

833
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,600
questions, I can look and say, "Okay,

834
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,440
I've already sent three questions to

835
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,000
Salt Lake and two to Ogden, but I

836
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,120
haven't sent any to Bountiful yet." So,

837
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,840
just kind of helping connect members

838
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,480
with other members

839
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,080
um and using the strength of the League

840
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,280
army [clears throat] to better support

841
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,640
ourselves.

842
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,880
Um so, that was one concept that came up

843
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,680
in two of the groups that we thought was

844
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,200
interesting and worth exploring.

845
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,520
I have a question.

846
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,920
>> Do we have any process for our LAA

847
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,240
program that addresses technology

848
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,600
opportunities? I've had lots of GovTech

849
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,200
reach out to me

850
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,840
who addresses policy, compliance,

851
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,480
procurement, community engagement, all

852
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,600
kinds of these great tools. And we're

853
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,600
all looking at things, especially what

854
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,880
how many Yeah, I help

855
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,880
I I imagine a lot of these LAA

856
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,360
communities don't have the time or maybe

857
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,960
the tech technical prowess to audit the

858
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,480
type of competitors or whatever. Do we

859
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,800
have a process that we're even

860
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,280
considering where

861
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,160
a company can submit to be on a review

862
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,960
or LAA approved? Or are we going there?

863
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,560
Or this could be a member-to-member

864
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,400
thing cuz technology is one of the best

865
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,880
things that we can

866
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,440
connect people on to simplify and make

867
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:40,800
efficient.

868
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,120
Can I Can I Can I ask questions to make

869
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,320
sure I'm understanding? Are you thinking

870
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,080
like a preferred vendor list? Like

871
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,680
they've already been vetted that they

872
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:49,960
>> Yeah, well, I don't I don't know if I

873
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,400
want us to get into the business of

874
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:52,440
vetting but it could be a

875
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:53,960
member-to-member. Just in general, one

876
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,800
of If we're talking about helping our smaller communities, one of the best

877
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,480
things we can do is help them with

878
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,600
efficient technology.

879
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,480
So it's something to talk about. I don't

880
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,120
know the right answer but I know that a

881
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,120
lot of communities, even bigger ones,

882
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,760
are on the hunt for technology that will

883
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,800
automate and streamline and increase

884
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,480
connections. So

885
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,800
All right, can I Can I jump in here? So

886
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,160
actually, one of the questions we're

887
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,240
going to ask you in the advocacy section

888
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,640
of today's meeting

889
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,360
is about technology in the

890
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,960
land use space because we've had

891
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,840
conversations with several different

892
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,120
technology firms that have been doing

893
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,000
some pilot programs around the country

894
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,920
and probably here in Utah as well.

895
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,160
Mayor Burton, your city, I know, it was

896
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,320
involved of these pilot programs. And

897
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,040
so, we're trying to figure out what

898
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,480
should our role be in connecting

899
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,480
these opportunities with our cities.

900
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,400
So, we've had that conversation in the

901
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,640
housing land use space, and it did come

902
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,040
up as part of the broader conversation

903
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,440
with LAA. And so, I think it's a I think

904
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,160
it's a fair thing to talk about, and

905
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,920
it's part of what we're working through

906
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,800
now. Like, okay, if our our our role in

907
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,280
this overall space is education and

908
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,600
connection, so what is the depth of

909
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,920
that?

910
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,480
Um in thinking about the education and

911
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:14,920
connector piece, too, and the

912
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,560
opportunity to join the League staff

913
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,800
that the um fabulous bar six

914
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,080
uh summit two weeks ago, week ago.

915
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,560
Two and a half minutes. Okay. Um and out

916
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,440
of that I um

917
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:29,920
Cameron and I spent

918
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:30,960
good time talking about the

919
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,160
transportation utility piece, and two

920
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,680
days later I had a an outreach from a

921
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,600
mayor down there that wanted to talk

922
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:43,840
about just the political side of considering one

923
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,400
and all of those elements. My city

924
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:46,920
hasn't done that, but I was able to say,

925
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,160
well, let me

926
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,560
connect you actually connect him to the

927
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,680
Tim to Mayor Tran as a community that

928
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,680
So, I think there's lots in our

929
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,080
um

930
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,240
uh creating kind of a robust

931
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,440
uh

932
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,480
list of people who can educate and

933
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,520
connect, so that we can we can provide

934
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,520
those resources, so

935
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,040
um sometimes you need to

936
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,480
sometimes another engineer needs to talk

937
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,760
to other engineers. Sometimes another clerk needs to hear another

938
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,560
clerk is doing it. And sometimes on the

939
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,399
political side, you need to

940
00:34:19,399 --> 00:34:21,320
uh talk to someone about how much

941
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:22,360
yelling

942
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,960
it's going to require

943
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,159
from the public in order to do

944
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:26,520
something.

945
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,120
I think that's I think that's what we do

946
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,000
best as cities.

947
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,360
We've got

948
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,440
just going and sitting next to our peers

949
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,480
and talking to things and sharing ideas

950
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,360
and thoughts. I think we

951
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,080
from elected officials to the staffs

952
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,480
to staff positions, I think that's

953
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,000
something that our people really enjoy

954
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,840
doing. They do it really well.

955
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,520
I love that focus.

956
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,600
Educating.

957
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,879
Yeah, I was just going to say it it was

958
00:34:51,879 --> 00:34:54,159
a great session and thanks to you

959
00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:56,040
President Bradshaw and for the League

960
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,960
staff for coming down to Richfield.

961
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,400
Uh it's it's a wonderful annual event

962
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,560
and some of the really small communities

963
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,400
get a chance to have the training and I

964
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:08,880
don't see any of a lot of those people

965
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,760
at our

966
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,400
meetings uh with the League.

967
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:13,840
Unfortunately, it's probably because of

968
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,000
the financial issue. But but they all

969
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,440
come to the R6

970
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,680
training and it's so valuable for them

971
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,960
to hear other things that small

972
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,960
communities are dealing with and to get

973
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,600
the excellent training that's provided.

974
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,280
And uh

975
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:35,000
I think maybe as an example of helping each other, I know that we

976
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,200
Gunnison just lost uh a treasurer and so

977
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,600
they've been asking for our treasurer to

978
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,200
come down and help them a little bit and

979
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,440
just those connections that are made in

980
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,080
those kinds of

981
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:46,720
uh

982
00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:50,400
settings are so valuable, especially for

983
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,920
the small communities. So, thank you for

984
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,520
facilitating them.

985
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,080
It was our pleasure to come down. You

986
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,360
know, I know that um

987
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,040
uh you were very often here in person

988
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,640
for many meetings and it's the same

989
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,160
distance for us to come down as you to

990
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,120
come up. Um and so I appreciate that you

991
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,680
did that. Plus, you know, we're ready to

992
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,440
RP for a really great road trip um that

993
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:16,920
I did kind of make uh the down and back. Uh we also saw a potentially a

994
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:17,480
comet.

995
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,400
>> We saw the biggest comet of my life.

996
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,600
>> Yeah. Yeah. On the way back home. Yeah.

997
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,560
Like it was it was impressive.

998
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,040
>> Like I'm surprised there weren't news

999
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,640
reports about it.

1000
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,960
Just just for you. Yeah.

1001
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,160
There were we both saw it so it really

1002
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,750
happened.

1003
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,320
Um we had not reached the full

1004
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,440
caffeinated part of the the night drive

1005
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:39,440
which turned out

1006
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,040
um but anyway I I agree with you I think

1007
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,200
um

1008
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,800
you know the strength of the league is

1009
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,560
the members and so I think Molly the

1010
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,640
takeaway I would share is

1011
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:50,600
um

1012
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,160
members helping members is something we

1013
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,560
should continue to place a lot of

1014
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,120
emphasis on and

1015
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,200
you got a lot of people willing to do

1016
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,280
it.

1017
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,120
Molly asked the question is there

1018
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,040
anything that we're missing from these

1019
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,920
takeaways?

1020
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,160
One question on the budget side of the

1021
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,680
house we talked about the scholarships

1022
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,720
to go to the either conventions St.

1023
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:10,080
George or here.

1024
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,360
I mean

1025
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:12,920
you have a fixed budget and then

1026
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,520
people are more people ask than you have

1027
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,480
budget for. Yeah. Yeah and so and the

1028
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,240
scholarship money does not come from the

1029
00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:21,320
league general fund. That it comes from

1030
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,280
the office of property rights ombudsman.

1031
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,080
Okay. And their report was thrilled with

1032
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,320
the idea of using some of the training

1033
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,440
dollars to improve the training of

1034
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,480
elected officials around the state.

1035
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,520
Okay. And in fact I'll to share a quick anecdote

1036
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,360
and Mayor Van Wagner will remember this.

1037
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,080
So Mayor Van Wagner hosted me in Castle

1038
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,320
Dale a few weeks ago.

1039
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,080
Um so Mayor thanks for the pizza for the

1040
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,320
lunch and we had all the mayors in Emery

1041
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,280
County but one together and Mayor Van

1042
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,920
Wagner do you remember what your

1043
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,320
colleague from Ferron said to me as soon

1044
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,080
as I sat down?

1045
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,960
Uh

1046
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,880
not right off the bat. I know that the

1047
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:04,520
LIA was talked a a huge amount but uh

1048
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:05,600
refresh me.

1049
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,280
Yeah so yeah we talked LIA for a good

1050
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,760
chunk of the time talked about water

1051
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,680
rights and water availability. First

1052
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,080
thing he asked me when I sat down is why

1053
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,880
didn't I get a scholarship?

1054
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,080
And it was because we had far more

1055
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,720
interest than there were dollars

1056
00:38:17,720 --> 00:38:19,000
available from the property rights

1057
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,920
ombudsman's office but I think what that

1058
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,720
demonstrates is there's there's a lot of

1059
00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:23,920
interest. People want to get trained.

1060
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,360
And so, this is why as President Brunson

1061
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:27,840
indicated, like we go to the our six

1062
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,200
meeting every year. We've been doing

1063
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,160
these regional events with the AOGs.

1064
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:33,920
Like I personally have done trainings in

1065
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,680
the last few months. And some of Wasatch

1066
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,040
counties, Washington and Iron counties

1067
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,120
have one. Carbon, Emery County. Um

1068
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,200
Mayor Peterson and I are talking about

1069
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,080
putting one together in in Cache County

1070
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,360
this summer.

1071
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:46,960
And so, we're trying to meet people

1072
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,080
where they are in addition to having

1073
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,000
them at the larger events. Great. Great.

1074
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,080
That's awesome. Thanks.

1075
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,920
Can I add one more thing though? With

1076
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,120
those uh

1077
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,880
regional meetings that with the AOGs um

1078
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,240
and do doing doing them in the evenings

1079
00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:05,520
cuz most everybody has a a day job.

1080
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,600
And those are incredibly valuable

1081
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,200
especially for uh new

1082
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,160
councils and mayors. So, I hope we

1083
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,480
continue those uh because they do

1084
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:16,440
they're s-

1085
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,240
very successful.

1086
00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:20,320
Uh thank you Mayor Van Wagoner. And we

1087
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,120
did one jointly with SERDA that Mayor

1088
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,720
Van Wagoner attended. SERDA Southeastern

1089
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:25,760
um

1090
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,400
Southeastern is based in Price. And so,

1091
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:28,760
we did one with them. And we're having

1092
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,640
another one tentatively scheduled for

1093
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:35,150
September. I believe. September 9th.

1094
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,600
Okay. Anything else on the engagement

1095
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,800
section?

1096
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:44,870
Or presentation or feedback perspective?

1097
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,240
Nick, are there any other comments in

1098
00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:48,280
the chat that you're aware of?

1099
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,280
Nope. Okay. Okay. All right. Let's move

1100
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,320
on to the advocacy breakout room.

1101
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,840
Advocacy. So, again, thank you to Justin

1102
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,000
for facilitating that that conversation.

1103
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,760
And what was interesting about this one

1104
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,480
is we just had a really broad question

1105
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,200
about how to better involve you as board

1106
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,840
members. And then there were lots of

1107
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,200
ideas that came from it. So, Justin,

1108
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,120
I'll turn to you briefly to just hit the

1109
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,920
highlights for the staff to take away.

1110
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,720
All right. Um yeah, there was a lot of

1111
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:14,120
great ideas on this one. A lot of good

1112
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,680
discussion. Um

1113
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:16,880
and so, yeah, I'll just go through the

1114
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,080
takeaways uh fairly quickly. Some things

1115
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:20,800
that became really apparent

1116
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,880
is we do need a matrix or spreadsheet or

1117
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,560
list of everybody's expertise and

1118
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,360
relationships.

1119
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:27,560
We sort of know them, but we don't know

1120
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,320
all of them. And particularly as new

1121
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,520
board members come on,

1122
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,600
we don't always know who you know.

1123
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:34,920
we know that you have good

1124
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,240
relationships with your legislators, but

1125
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:37,200
we don't always know that you were

1126
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,960
college roommates with somebody maybe,

1127
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,760
and that would be a great person to give

1128
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,440
a call. So, that's one thing we can

1129
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,720
definitely take away is we can identify

1130
00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:47,120
some of those a little bit better.

1131
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:48,280
A lot of you are already involved in

1132
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:49,800
advisory groups. Many of you are

1133
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,160
involved in multiple advisory groups,

1134
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:53,920
but we do want to be cognizant that as

1135
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,600
we're building advisory groups now, LBC

1136
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,480
advisory groups, that we either make

1137
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,600
sure board members are involved, which

1138
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,960
will help us later in the session as we

1139
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,080
have expertise on things where we're

1140
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,320
giving testimony on bills, or that we

1141
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,080
make sure there's kind of that board

1142
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,640
stamp of approval as we're going through

1143
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,120
some of those. So, that's one of the

1144
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,560
things we want to make sure that it's happening for the most part, but

1145
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,160
it's happening more by happenstance than

1146
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,600
on purpose. That's what we want to make

1147
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,920
sure that we're doing that purposely.

1148
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:21,680
Um,

1149
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,240
action alerts, we heard loud and clear

1150
00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:24,280
that

1151
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:25,800
we send out our action alerts and we get

1152
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,840
a really good response. We also heard

1153
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,720
that not everybody checks their email or

1154
00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:31,000
maybe the email that we have for the

1155
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,880
action alerts as soon as we send out

1156
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,000
those action alerts. As Mayor Val Wagner

1157
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,640
said, people have day jobs, you're not

1158
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:37,920
always looking at your city email at

1159
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,080
3:00 on a Wednesday, even if it is

1160
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,000
session like all, you know, those of us

1161
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,840
at the capital are. So, we can use the

1162
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,360
board to leverage relationships that we

1163
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,560
have locally. So, if we send out a text

1164
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:49,720
to the board and say, "We just sent out

1165
00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:51,640
an action alert." That triggers you to

1166
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,560
send out your email and like Mayor Bruno

1167
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,440
brought this up, she's on a text stream

1168
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,320
with all the mayors in Washington County

1169
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:58,840
and can immediately ping all the mayors

1170
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,520
in Washington County and say, "An action

1171
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,360
alert went out. We need to We need to go

1172
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,080
on this one." So, that's a way we can

1173
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,160
leverage that one.

1174
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:07,800
We also heard from a lot of you that you

1175
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,280
would like to learn more about what the

1176
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,120
legislative process works.

1177
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,320
This is not an open invite I think that

1178
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:14,760
we make to everybody we don't have the

1179
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:15,920
time.

1180
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,120
Um, but

1181
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,760
I there is an open invite that I'm

1182
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,640
making right now if anyone would like to

1183
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,720
shadow us as we're going around up at

1184
00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:25,000
the capital during interim or during the

1185
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,720
session if you want to see how

1186
00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:28,640
committees work, if you want to see what

1187
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:29,760
happens when we're out in the hall

1188
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,680
talking to legislators, um, if you

1189
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,880
wanted to pick our brains, open invite

1190
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,160
anyone on the board that would like to

1191
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,120
just shadow us, walk around with us, see

1192
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,280
what's going on, more than happy to have

1193
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,640
that. So that when we do need you to

1194
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,000
testify committee it's not the first

1195
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,040
time you've ever been in a committee

1196
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,320
room perhaps or if we say we really need

1197
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,040
you to go talk to the legislator it's

1198
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,240
maybe not the first time you've ever

1199
00:42:49,240 --> 00:42:51,280
seen that happen as well. So

1200
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,680
just there was a, you know, desire

1201
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,680
raised that we could do some shadowing,

1202
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,440
we could do some learning and and as a

1203
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:58,600
lead staff that's something we could

1204
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,120
feel like we can we can definitely work

1205
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,840
through.

1206
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,960
The the last one,

1207
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,600
well there's two more, one of them was

1208
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,840
having board members testify more

1209
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,200
on certain things and there's a couple

1210
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,080
different things we can do here. One, as

1211
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,320
we give you to have more expertise

1212
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:14,720
then you maybe will come and make you've

1213
00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:16,760
been the point person on a bill or on a

1214
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,600
subject for us during the interim and

1215
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,720
then you can get up and testify.

1216
00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:23,360
We know that it is really effective many

1217
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:24,840
times to have a mayor or council member

1218
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,840
get up instead of a lead staffer and

1219
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,320
that holds some really specific weight

1220
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,200
on on certain bills that works really well.

1221
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,520
And then as somebody also pointed out

1222
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,080
sometimes we only ask you to get up and

1223
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,520
testify when it's the big scary bills

1224
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,800
and that feels like a lot of pressure.

1225
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,120
Um, and sometimes it would be really

1226
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,280
worthwhile and this kind of goes to the

1227
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:45,640
shadowing thing.

1228
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,360
We have we have a joke where we have

1229
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,280
kind of play calls like in football

1230
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:50,240
where we say what are we going to go

1231
00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:51,480
testify today and we're like well it's a

1232
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,640
number six which means we like to think

1233
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,480
the legislator we're working with us and

1234
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,440
while the bill's not quite there yet we

1235
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:58,960
look forward to continue discussions on

1236
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,520
this bill. And we say that like every

1237
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,480
day up there.

1238
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,080
But that's also something that we could

1239
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:05,880
do a play call it a number six could go

1240
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,280
to almost any board member cuz it's

1241
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,160
pretty bland. And that could again give

1242
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:11,520
you some experience getting up to

1243
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,880
testify on something in a lower pressure

1244
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,200
situation. So, when it is the big bill

1245
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:17,640
that we need someone to come in on,

1246
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:18,720
you've got some experience and you've

1247
00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:20,560
got some background on that. And then

1248
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,120
finally, um the last one and this is a

1249
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,200
trickier nut to crack um and it's worth

1250
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,760
having some discussions. Um once we get

1251
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,960
to pass that first board meeting, as

1252
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,400
board members, unless you're on the

1253
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,600
exact team uh or exact officer, you

1254
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:34,840
really just sort of go back to the

1255
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,560
regular your LPC. There's not really a

1256
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,520
special board meeting we have, we don't

1257
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,440
have a special board group, and there's

1258
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:41,920
good reasons for that cuz if we had a

1259
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,160
whole board meeting together, we'd have

1260
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,080
to have a board meeting. Um

1261
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,400
and so, trying to figure out how to

1262
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,600
crack the nut of perhaps giving some

1263
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,360
additional updates

1264
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:51,600
um without having to have a board

1265
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,600
meeting every week. Um it's worth having

1266
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,400
those discussions. I put worth having

1267
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:56,920
discussions cuz I don't know how to do

1268
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,760
it yet. Um there's some some

1269
00:44:58,760 --> 00:44:59,880
off-the-cuff things there that we've got

1270
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:01,840
to figure out, but if we can figure that

1271
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,760
out, it's worthwhile discussing. Are

1272
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,440
there ways we can have you as a board

1273
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,040
more up-to-date and maybe getting some

1274
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:08,880
of those backroom discussions that the

1275
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,160
other officers get without, you know,

1276
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,240
breaking down things that we do

1277
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:13,400
otherwise.

1278
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:14,440
If we're going to do like an email

1279
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,320
string, for example, there's nothing we

1280
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,080
would put in an email that we wouldn't

1281
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,320
already put in our nightly emails

1282
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:20,720
anyway. Um

1283
00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:22,800
there's nothing we would say in an open

1284
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,400
board meeting that we would say in an

1285
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,280
LPC. Um so, trying to figure out the

1286
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,440
value of some of those kind of um

1287
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,760
less on the record discussions without

1288
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,520
breaking any of those those laws or

1289
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:34,960
requirements to something we're not

1290
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,760
quite sure how to crack, but it's worth

1291
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,960
discussing. So, that's that's kind of

1292
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,040
the things that we're taking away from

1293
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,200
that. Um

1294
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:42,520
we'd love any input if there's anything

1295
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,160
we missed uh since all of you were in

1296
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,080
those discussions or or thoughts about

1297
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,000
any of those items. So, Justin, on that

1298
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,800
last one, I think you could have had

1299
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,600
that information come from the league

1300
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,080
staff to the board members. The board

1301
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,560
members, when they get those emails,

1302
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,240
will come back and say, "I might respond

1303
00:45:57,240 --> 00:45:58,600
back and say, 'Hey, I've got the picture

1304
00:45:58,600 --> 00:45:59,640
of the chief administrator. I can

1305
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:00,880
help.'" And here's some information I

1306
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,760
can provide. You can have it lead the

1307
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,760
other direction. I think that's really

1308
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,440
what would be helpful. Yeah, absolutely.

1309
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:07,840
That's a great point. Yeah, make sure

1310
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,800
you know. I think that's a really good

1311
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,280
point number one that from a former

1312
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:12,800
member perspective

1313
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:13,800
um

1314
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,280
I think we are asking y'all to be more

1315
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:18,920
connected to your emails during the

1316
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,760
legislative session

1317
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,640
in and around whether you're, you know,

1318
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,680
full-time or um

1319
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,670
full-time with zero pay.

1320
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,520
You're in your home.

1321
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,560
Um but to be really connected cuz I

1322
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,960
think it is really key that when you're getting those um

1323
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,920
Friday facts or other communications

1324
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,080
that you're

1325
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,360
then quickly saying Lisa app, I can help

1326
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,040
you here, here, and here or I know

1327
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,480
something about this or we've had we've

1328
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,360
had a the challenging experience with

1329
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,280
this in our city so that the league

1330
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,880
staff quickly gets a pool of a good pool

1331
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,400
of information that they can deal with.

1332
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,880
It's a um

1333
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:01,720
from having uh been on the board side and the executive

1334
00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:04,080
committee side, it's kind of a two-way

1335
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,200
street of having the staff figure out

1336
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,840
how to use the board more during the

1337
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,160
session

1338
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,720
but the board also proactively

1339
00:47:12,720 --> 00:47:15,120
um thinking of ways that

1340
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,280
you can contribute and

1341
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,040
be available, you know, for instance,

1342
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,240
Council member Dugan with his fabulous

1343
00:47:21,240 --> 00:47:23,320
proximity to the capital thanks for

1344
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,040
representing Salt Lake.

1345
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,080
Um

1346
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,560
you know, often with with say I'm

1347
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,880
available, I can come up quickly and I'm

1348
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,680
here, I'm around. Here's areas I'm

1349
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,040
passionate about on, you know, UTA or

1350
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,760
renewables or things like that. So, I

1351
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,280
think those are really appreciative and

1352
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:39,640
then also for those of you who are are

1353
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,600
wondering along with um

1354
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,520
the Salt Lake City team, there actually

1355
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,520
were little football play call things

1356
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:46,960
that were made to count.

1357
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,360
That was uh this testifies to this is

1358
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:50,480
the session we actually numbered

1359
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,240
something.

1360
00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:54,160
Is is there an opportunity in those

1361
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,800
emails to put like a a graphic call out

1362
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,520
that's like help wanted? If you're like,

1363
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,680
we need someone expertise on bullet bullet that it prompts us to

1364
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,040
think about those specific I mean, there

1365
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,520
always there's always something

1366
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:06,840
but maybe there could be something we're

1367
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,840
all used to as a habit for health help

1368
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,000
wanted. Put a code in there. Yeah, the

1369
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,160
bat signal was specificity.

1370
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:14,600
Cassie, that's in your area, I think.

1371
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,320
Bat signal. Well, and before Cassie gets

1372
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:18,920
in line, one of the things I think that

1373
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,080
is important, this is brought up in a

1374
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,840
couple of groups, is

1375
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,960
it's it does happen. We get bills that

1376
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,080
we don't know are coming. That happens

1377
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,600
during session. Plenty of bills being

1378
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,240
drafted that we don't know are coming.

1379
00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:32,440
But usually we have expertise nailed

1380
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,128
down before we get to session.

1381
00:48:34,128 --> 00:48:34,200
>> [clears throat]

1382
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,280
>> Um so if we're in week six of session,

1383
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,360
something's come up that we don't

1384
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:38,880
already know the expertise, we're

1385
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,880
probably going to have to Yeah.

1386
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,440
Like the it's a really big bat signal at

1387
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,560
that point. So we hopefully that's if we

1388
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,680
get the expertise nailed down, I will

1389
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,160
have to say

1390
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,480
you know, we really need help on this.

1391
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,080
I'll say, I know I'm going to ask for on

1392
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,790
this.

1393
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,160
Any other thoughts, Cassie, on the

1394
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,880
callout of one that something that as

1395
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:58,840
you're

1396
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,920
going through the myriad of bills that

1397
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,080
helps

1398
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:03,560
a particular board member to recognize

1399
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,120
like this is one

1400
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,000
Did you not abuse the bat signal? The

1401
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,880
signal is just if we have a crisis,

1402
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,440
it'll be good to

1403
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:11,560
Yeah, and I I could be on the phone

1404
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:12,240
right

1405
00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:13,480
I think that's the main point, right? Is

1406
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,400
like when do we use a tool like that and

1407
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,240
informing our members to watch out when

1408
00:49:17,240 --> 00:49:19,120
it's coming. Like something if you've

1409
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:20,880
been reading the last few Friday facts,

1410
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,280
we've started to kind of transitioning

1411
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:23,920
into like, all right, here's things that

1412
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,480
we want you to do and here's things that

1413
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:26,760
we think you should know. Just to kind

1414
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,760
of help give people a direction with our

1415
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,280
emails because sometimes we do provide a

1416
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:31,720
lot of really great resources and

1417
00:49:31,720 --> 00:49:33,640
they're not applicable to everyone on

1418
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,840
our list cuz we have like 5,000 people

1419
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,280
on our email list. And we have a

1420
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:39,800
great variety of like who's really

1421
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,240
involved with the league, who needs the

1422
00:49:41,240 --> 00:49:42,600
league sometimes. So it's just kind of

1423
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,360
trying to manage that. But I think we

1424
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,080
have some great moves strategically

1425
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:48,240
coming down the pipeline that will kind

1426
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:50,440
of help mitigate and manage with

1427
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,760
different audiences.

1428
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,760
Well, I just want to piggyback on what

1429
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,760
Cassie said. And I thank Cassie, you so

1430
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:57,800
two board meetings ago at the board

1431
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,680
meeting after the session, Cassie went

1432
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,360
through the numbers

1433
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,160
of our email open rates and action

1434
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,200
alerts and and everything else. And then

1435
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,160
we talked to our other state league

1436
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,320
counterparts on a regular basis.

1437
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,160
To our knowledge, we are the only state

1438
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,480
league that sends a nightly email during

1439
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:14,520
the session.

1440
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,120
So the other state leagues will usually

1441
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:17,600
do a weekly email during the session,

1442
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,800
but we send a nightly email. It's a lot

1443
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,160
of work, but the open rate is

1444
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,600
extraordinarily high during the session,

1445
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,960
and we've never lost on an on an action

1446
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:27,200
alert. We've never done a full action

1447
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,760
alert. And so really the feedback you

1448
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,000
gave us at least will help us as we're

1449
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:33,480
working through the technologies to say,

1450
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,280
"Okay, we're doing things really well

1451
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:36,840
here, but here's how we can improve."

1452
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,800
And thank you, Cassie, for all that work

1453
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,040
during the session on the communication

1454
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,030
side.

1455
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,240
Okay. Is there anything else? Anything

1456
00:50:45,240 --> 00:50:48,000
else to say? Cassie has her hand raised.

1457
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,160
Yeah.

1458
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,040
Uh sorry, I'm not there. I'm actually

1459
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,760
pretty sick. So didn't want to come down

1460
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,520
there and get everyone sick. Um in my

1461
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,480
group my group, we talked a little bit

1462
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,240
about what UAC was doing. Did we get any

1463
00:51:01,240 --> 00:51:02,600
more information? I know that my

1464
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,880
counterparts for Summit County serve on

1465
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,960
some smaller committees where it might

1466
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,080
not be um an OTMA issue. So I just

1467
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,280
wondered if we knew what UAC is doing at

1468
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:13,840
the legislature with these smaller

1469
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,200
groups.

1470
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,960
The one key distinction between UAC and

1471
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,160
the league The league is a public

1472
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,120
entity. You are a public board. UAC is

1473
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,400
not a public entity. So part of the

1474
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:25,600
reason they don't have to worry about

1475
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:26,840
open meetings because they are not a

1476
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,040
public entity.

1477
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,200
So that's one key distinction. Uh the

1478
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:32,720
second thing

1479
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:35,680
is UAC's board is almost twice as big as

1480
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,240
our board. So you know, they break their

1481
00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:39,440
board up into smaller groups. They've

1482
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,800
got the bigger number, but our policy

1483
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,200
our legislative policy committee is much

1484
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:44,480
bigger than their policy committee. So

1485
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,600
that's why we've taken the approach of

1486
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,960
doing advisory committees under the L B

1487
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,080
C banner because it pulls in more people

1488
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:53,960
than if we just did advisory groups with

1489
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,480
the board, but as Justin said, we want

1490
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:56,680
to maximize the potential with those

1491
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,040
advisory groups, which have served us

1492
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,440
well, and making sure we've got board

1493
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,040
involvement in those advisory groups.

1494
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:03,240
And Justin,

1495
00:52:03,240 --> 00:52:04,840
later in the meeting, will

1496
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,680
identify which advisory groups we plan

1497
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,320
to recommend to the L B C in 2 weeks

1498
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,480
that we do need to get started in June.

1499
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,640
Thank you. That really helps.

1500
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,600
Anyone else online with feedback or

1501
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,710
questions?

1502
00:52:21,720 --> 00:52:23,880
Okay. Go ahead, Mayor.

1503
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,600
I'll pick up on Mayor Berke's comment.

1504
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,720
Where I struggle is not half

1505
00:52:28,720 --> 00:52:30,240
anything to do with the staff's efforts

1506
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:32,640
to outreach. It's on me, and I would

1507
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,440
encourage the board members to

1508
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,440
be introspective as well. The

1509
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:37,600
where I struggle is I have good

1510
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,320
intentions going in, and then I get just

1511
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,840
wrapped up.

1512
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,440
I've got to figure out a way to to

1513
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:44,720
commit the amount of time I'm trying to

1514
00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:47,520
commit to the to the session itself, and

1515
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,440
that's a that's that's on me. But so I

1516
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:51,840
really appreciate how the staff's asking

1517
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:52,840
for

1518
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,240
what you guys should do.

1519
00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:55,840
But I'd encourage all of us to say what

1520
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,240
can we do

1521
00:52:57,240 --> 00:52:59,400
and give back.

1522
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,800
It can be a challenge. The session is is

1523
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,520
it all special beast and kind of suck

1524
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,360
It's hard to just in and out, in

1525
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,560
and out. You're either in or you're out.

1526
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,800
Well, and and if I can admit it, well, I

1527
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:12,920
think that's one of the reasons we want

1528
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,520
to get some of the expertise and some of

1529
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:16,760
those advisory groups with the board

1530
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,480
members in there. So you don't feel like

1531
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,960
you have to be in on everything.

1532
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:21,520
Um

1533
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:22,800
you could be in on the thing where

1534
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,880
you'll do the most damage or the most

1535
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,920
good, I guess. Either one.

1536
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,080
Depending depending on which thing it

1537
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,720
is, but where you can have the biggest

1538
00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:32,400
impact, neutral terms. Um

1539
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:33,760
but yeah, and then and that's part of

1540
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,480
what we want to figure out in advance is

1541
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:36,360
so you don't have to feel like you have

1542
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:37,920
to jump in on everything, but I can say,

1543
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,960
"Hey, Mayor Del Se I need you on this

1544
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:40,840
thing."

1545
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,520
Um and then you've got that advantage.

1546
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:43,840
That's why we have a lead is so we can

1547
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,440
spread that stuff out.

1548
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,040
So, I appreciate that. Yeah, you have to

1549
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:48,360
do everything. Well, one of the

1550
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,360
realities is that each session takes on

1551
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,240
some characteristics and we often don't

1552
00:53:52,240 --> 00:53:56,390
know that until we get into it.

1553
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,840
Our task is pretty good.

1554
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,160
The session was almost devoid of his

1555
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,600
weakness alive and magic school.

1556
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,680
Mhm.

1557
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,360
It was a heavy task session.

1558
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,720
And uh and some of those we just don't

1559
00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:14,120
know until we get

1560
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,320
into the game, but we got to know who we

1561
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,320
can go to when when we don't.

1562
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:20,880
And that's just a really hard thing to

1563
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,160
sort of say

1564
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,280
we got a lot we need a lot of people who

1565
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,522
are really good at the last minute.

1566
00:54:26,522 --> 00:54:28,440
>> [clears throat]

1567
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:29,560
>> Mhm.

1568
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:30,960
It is, you're right. Of course, every

1569
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,640
session

1570
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,960
different things become the

1571
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,160
big issue.

1572
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:38,920
Sometimes you know those things don't

1573
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,440
Okay, anything else on the uh takeaways

1574
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,920
from our uh strategic session from the

1575
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,630
budget report meeting?

1576
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,800
Okay, thank you all and our staff will

1577
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,000
continue to

1578
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:51,800
uh

1579
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,160
work on these items and bring them back

1580
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:55,760
uh they're ready for more action and if

1581
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,280
you have additional thoughts uh

1582
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,200
please feel free to weigh in with those.

1583
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,240
Um, with that we'll move on to our next

1584
00:55:03,240 --> 00:55:05,160
item which is our board level uh

1585
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,160
personnel discussion and this will be

1586
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,440
with Cameron and Molly to talk about the

1587
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,640
engagement for air position. Okay, thank

1588
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,560
you. Thank you, President. And when we

1589
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:15,760
after this we'll get to the tentative

1590
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,360
budget and the

1591
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,840
strategic takeaways and this the

1592
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,360
strategic session takeaways to the area

1593
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,720
have informed our budget process as I

1594
00:55:25,720 --> 00:55:27,480
always do of course every year. Part of

1595
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,480
the budget process is actually personnel

1596
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,440
and we have an important personnel

1597
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,560
announcement. Um, so Meg, can I turn it

1598
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,000
to you to

1599
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,240
explain what's was next for her.

1600
00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:42,680
Yeah, I just want to thank the board and

1601
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,520
thank particularly Cameron for the

1602
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,440
opportunity to have been part of this

1603
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,000
organization for the last 24 plus years

1604
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,280
and I greatly appreciate the

1605
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:52,880
opportunity. Well, it's time for me to

1606
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,760
write a new chapter and Cameron's built

1607
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,280
an incredible open, professional, kind,

1608
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,080
and transparent

1609
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,160
organization with a team of dedicated

1610
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,520
staff people that are also kind and

1611
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,160
professional and incredibly smart and I

1612
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,040
hope that continues with your support

1613
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:11,320
and I'm proud to be part of this

1614
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,120
organization and thank you for the

1615
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:14,960
opportunity and hopefully this will open

1616
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:16,680
the way for new opportunities for the

1617
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:17,760
staff.

1618
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,640
Okay, I think you have like a round of

1619
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:30,150
thanks and applause for this.

1620
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,680
So, Meg has been awesome

1621
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,400
and Meg predates

1622
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,120
my arrival at the League. In fact,

1623
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:39,960
some you may not realize that Meg and I

1624
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,440
shared an office once upon a time and

1625
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,074
shared a computer even.

1626
00:56:44,074 --> 00:56:45,400
>> [laughter]

1627
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,480
>> And she's

1628
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,040
going to be with us through the end of

1629
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,040
June and so

1630
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:52,520
thankfully we still have her for a few

1631
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:53,800
more weeks.

1632
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,000
But

1633
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:55,880
you as a board, there are a couple of

1634
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:56,800
things I want to make sure you as a

1635
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,000
board do.

1636
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,040
Initiatives [clears throat] that she had

1637
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,760
led out on that have really paid

1638
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,120
dividends

1639
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,680
statewide. So, first the Land Use

1640
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,760
Academy in Utah.

1641
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,320
That's now housed at the Office of the

1642
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,200
Property Rights Ombudsman. We have a

1643
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,000
strategic partnership with them on the

1644
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,480
development.

1645
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,400
Meg has had ownership in that from day

1646
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,560
one and and still works every day

1647
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:22,880
in conjunction with the Office of

1648
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,720
Property Rights Ombudsman to try to

1649
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,800
elevate the understanding of land use

1650
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,480
statewide. She's been heavily involved

1651
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,360
with the Utah Land Use Institute and has

1652
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,040
really has really professionalized the

1653
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,480
training of land use from small towns

1654
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,920
East West State. And Meg and I've done

1655
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,480
many many a road trip together and and

1656
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,360
it was and this is actually

1657
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,200
I think a perfect encapsulation of of

1658
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,200
who Meg is. So anyway, just reference to

1659
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,560
the R6 Regional Council which several of

1660
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:53,680
us attended a couple weeks ago where

1661
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,800
there were 300 people in Richfield

1662
00:57:55,800 --> 00:58:00,400
city and county folks alike and

1663
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,640
the morning of that event

1664
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,600
we got a phone call asking if if Meg

1665
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,840
could do not one not two but three

1666
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:09,880
training sessions of that night.

1667
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:10,680
>> [laughter]

1668
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,280
>> Uh the

1669
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,840
Meg's answer was of course. And so Kate

1670
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,880
and I were doing our sessions and and

1671
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,360
other league staffers like Karen

1672
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,560
Nakamura was doing her budget session

1673
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:21,720
and

1674
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,600
uh McKenna was and Wally were there

1675
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,240
their sessions and and then Meg just

1676
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:27,800
picked up the baton and did three land

1677
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,560
use trainings uh that night to over 100

1678
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:37,920
all all told of probably 150 between the three sessions. That's just what what Meg does.

1679
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:39,800
The other thing is

1680
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:43,880
prior to COVID we had we had strived to

1681
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,000
have more technological

1682
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:48,640
connectivity with the parishes. So all

1683
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,280
of our meetings have been hybrid since

1684
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,720
before COVID. But what Meg did is Meg

1685
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,720
actually partnered with Utah State

1686
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:58,040
University so that we could do

1687
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,360
elected officials essentials trainings

1688
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,640
at their sites around the state so that

1689
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,880
we could be in communities and then

1690
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:08,040
broadcast from USU's main campus and

1691
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,360
then she did many land use trainings

1692
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:11,440
through that partnership with Utah

1693
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,080
State. And this all predates Zoom. So

1694
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,040
now we do those trainings all the time

1695
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:16,280
via Zoom and everybody is just

1696
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,800
accustomed to doing that via Zoom. But

1697
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,640
pre-Zoom you had Meg and and Utah State.

1698
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:22,560
So

1699
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:23,440
Um

1700
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,400
anyway, she's not done until 30th so

1701
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,320
we'll have more opportunities to to say

1702
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:28,840
goodbye to her but want to say thank you

1703
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,320
Meg for a all of your contributions and

1704
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,600
your friendship. And before I went to

1705
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,280
law school,

1706
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,440
Jared and I shared it and all the modern

1707
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,160
law school I went to is where she did

1708
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,280
some for undergrad. I still have my

1709
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:42,760
interesting college shirt that you gave

1710
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,000
me

1711
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,720
all those years ago.

1712
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:47,720
So, thank you Meg for your friendship

1713
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:49,800
and for your tremendous work on behalf

1714
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,680
of mayors, council members, planning

1715
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,600
commissioners, and city staff around the

1716
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,160
state.

1717
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,440
Because of Meg's departure, it does

1718
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:02,480
allow us to take a look organizationally where we

1719
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,640
want to go as a small staff. We always

1720
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,800
are re-evaluating whenever a vacancy

1721
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,160
opens up.

1722
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:10,640
And so

1723
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,040
as we've had conversations as an

1724
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,040
executive team between Justin, Molly,

1725
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,320
Nick, and me and some of the officers.

1726
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:18,920
And then based on the feedback you gave

1727
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,440
us last month, what we

1728
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,040
identified is that it would make sense

1729
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,720
to bring in a coordinator type position.

1730
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,720
So, this is the type position that Alexa

1731
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,960
fills for the advocacy team.

1732
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,480
Which did free us up other members of

1733
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,560
the advocacy team for other

1734
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,040
responsibilities. And Alexa did it is

1735
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,760
doing it now. Liam Hill did it for us

1736
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,680
before Alexa did and really made a huge

1737
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,320
difference. Carson Eilers did it prior

1738
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,080
to that. And so the idea here is rather

1739
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,040
than trying to replace Meg cuz Meg you

1740
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,360
know herself is irreplaceable.

1741
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,160
Do we

1742
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,480
bring on this coordinator position and

1743
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,640
then reallocate and pivot some of the

1744
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:01,520
responsibilities that Meg had through

1745
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:02,880
Molly,

1746
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,240
through Cassie, through Jared, and

1747
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,080
through other Lisa Powers and and

1748
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,280
partners. Molly, anything I missed that

1749
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:10,560
you that you want to

1750
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,240
add there? I think one thing we've

1751
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,880
really noticed over the last

1752
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:16,880
I would say um

1753
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:18,760
and granted things are cyclical, but the

1754
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,400
engagement team has been running pretty

1755
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,600
full out for the last seven plus months

1756
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:27,200
between newly elected NLC sessions,

1757
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,160
spring training, local officials day,

1758
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,240
mid-year meeting, you name it, and I

1759
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,840
think a lot of uh projects video series.

1760
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:36,120
We have done

1761
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,480
We've done a lot, and and we can do a

1762
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,440
lot, but I think that this position will

1763
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,960
free up Cassidy and I in particular to

1764
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,360
do more high-level things. I'm

1765
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,480
particularly excited um

1766
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,080
you know, we've started this project

1767
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:51,440
video series,

1768
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,120
and Cassidy's been incredibly leading

1769
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,560
out on that, and I for one I'm very

1770
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,480
excited by the prospect of giving

1771
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,040
Cassidy more bandwidth to do what she

1772
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:05,160
does best, rather than have her do

1773
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,240
things like updating the website and

1774
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,560
kind of one of those more entry-level

1775
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,800
communications pieces that she can do

1776
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,720
and does very well, um but I think that

1777
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:16,960
she has some pretty remarkable talent

1778
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:18,680
that we can be better utilizing as an

1779
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,000
organization. And so, bringing someone

1780
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:22,880
else on staff,

1781
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:24,400
um again, kind of pivoting that role

1782
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,760
Nick had, freeing up more capacity so

1783
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:27,880
that we can be doing

1784
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:32,470
more communications.

1785
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,280
Nick, will you scan down to the the next

1786
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:35,680
page? So,

1787
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,800
4 years ago, we shifted to this

1788
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,520
organizational chart where you have the

1789
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,240
advocacy engagement operations. And in a

1790
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,440
small staff, there is a lot of overlap.

1791
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,360
We don't have arrows going across the

1792
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:48,960
page, but just know that anybody in

1793
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:50,520
engagement

1794
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:52,040
helps on the advocacy side during the

1795
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,040
session. And then anybody in advocacy

1796
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:55,800
helps on engagement and operations

1797
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:57,720
during conferences and then throughout

1798
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,080
the year. And then and you know, Molly

1799
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,440
referenced spring training, and we had

1800
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:03,880
that down below, but Molly, if it's all

1801
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:04,800
right, I'm just going to reference the

1802
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,320
spring training stats here, cuz I think

1803
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:08,840
they they illustrate what you were just

1804
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,000
describing. So, since the end of the

1805
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,000
legislative session, which

1806
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:14,720
a little over 2 months now,

1807
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,560
um 11 League staff has

1808
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,120
uh presented at 11 different conferences

1809
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,360
with city leaders. We've done eight

1810
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:26,560
webinars with total viewership of 2042.

1811
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:30,520
We've had of those 2042, 1309

1812
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,280
that have watched those live plus

1813
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:35,800
another 733 views on YouTube. We have

1814
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,520
the property tax video series

1815
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,240
several are out and several are still to

1816
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,640
come which multiple cities are basically

1817
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,080
just using

1818
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:45,840
hot off the virtual presses and they're

1819
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:49,840
actually using them as templates for their own cities.

1820
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:53,120
We have the the legislative recap

1821
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:54,520
documents and all the different white

1822
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:57,080
papers that we've done

1823
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,160
and then we have more webinars scheduled

1824
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,520
in the in the weeks to come as well as

1825
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,480
the different regional meetings that are

1826
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,960
scheduled for the summer fall. So,

1827
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:07,800
there's there's a lot that's happening

1828
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,360
there and that's why we feel like

1829
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,920
rather than replacing Meg with a another

1830
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,280
senior land use manager, we would pivot

1831
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:19,120
and have this person fill this spot. We

1832
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,160
would still maintain the same number of

1833
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:22,560
full-time employees. So, we're not

1834
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:23,720
increasing the number of full-time

1835
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:25,760
employees. We're pivoting to this

1836
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,200
position and you as a board per bylaws

1837
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,360
have to approve all positions. So, you

1838
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,440
have to make that decision

1839
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,120
and then we would not fill a senior land

1840
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:37,920
use manager in house. We would instead

1841
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,320
and reallocate those responsibilities

1842
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:44,000
within our in-house staff and then back

1843
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,080
to that educator connector role that we

1844
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,120
talked about a moment ago, look at

1845
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:49,880
partners at other cities that can help

1846
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,160
fill some of those responsibilities. So,

1847
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,480
that's our recommendation to you but at

1848
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,560
the end of the day, it's up to you if up

1849
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,360
to approve the deputy director position

1850
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,520
as part of the org chart as described.

1851
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:02,960
I think it's great idea, Beth. I don't

1852
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:03,920
know if I like the end of the day

1853
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:05,960
though.

1854
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,280
Good. Did we run out of time?

1855
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,200
Any other feedback or questions? Just do

1856
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:11,680
it. A question.

1857
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:13,920
I will tell you that when I first became

1858
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:15,760
council member Meg was one of the first

1859
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:19,040
people I contacted with lots of land use

1860
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,840
questions that we were having. Again,

1861
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,720
such an invaluable resource for small

1862
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:26,760
communities. So, I guess my question

1863
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,320
would be would all those types of

1864
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,120
questions then be referred to the land

1865
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,240
use ombudsman? No.

1866
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,200
we're still we're still working that

1867
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,640
out internally between

1868
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,440
me, Jared, [clears throat]

1869
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,640
Molly, Cassie, Justin who would take

1870
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,400
what pieces.

1871
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:47,080
Todd Gotfry was online right now. Todd

1872
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:48,840
is our legal advisor in the land use

1873
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:53,120
space. So, there's a lot of pieces we're working through

1874
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,000
what that pivot's going to look like.

1875
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:55,920
Molly.

1876
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,200
Well, you know, this

1877
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,080
ideally would be a full budget as well

1878
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,600
that anything that we can't handle from

1879
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:06,160
the general education in-house we could

1880
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,280
similar to our contract with Todd

1881
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,400
look at bringing in a few other contract

1882
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,200
topic experts and freelance them to

1883
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:16,110
supplement any areas that we're lacking.

1884
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:17,760
And if I can just add on that and Meg

1885
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:19,360
has done a phenomenal job making sure

1886
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:20,320
that

1887
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:21,880
there are more land use experts than we

1888
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:23,600
used to have in this space. As she

1889
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:24,960
reminds us frequently everything else is

1890
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:30,880
actually land use. And so Carson, Cat, Jared, others

1891
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:32,280
gained more expertise than we used to

1892
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:33,400
have as well.

1893
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:34,200
Um

1894
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,000
so Meg has done a good job making sure

1895
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:37,440
that she's not leaving that huge hole

1896
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:38,280
there.

1897
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:39,840
She's trained the trainers. Thank you

1898
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:43,560
for growing from your perfect place.

1899
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,960
Any other questions, feedback?

1900
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:48,640
Burton, I think we're

1901
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:50,920
getting back to what you suggested which

1902
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:52,680
is um

1903
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:55,040
I'm happy to make a motion.

1904
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,120
We have a motion from Mayor Burton to

1905
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,600
accept this new

1906
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:01,080
staff position. Do we have a second?

1907
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,240
Councilor Diggen,

1908
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:04,480
we've had a great discussion so I'll

1909
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,480
just go ahead and call for the vote. All

1910
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:11,480
in favor, please say I. I. I.

1911
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,480
Give me just a moment.

1912
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:15,800
Are there any online?

1913
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:16,800
Okay.

1914
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:20,280
Uh any opposed, please say nay.

1915
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,840
Looks like that passes unanimously.

1916
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:24,800
Uh we are now to the presentation of the

1917
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:26,760
tentative budget. Uh I'm going to turn

1918
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,040
this over to Cameron and Nick to tag

1919
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:31,840
team on this presentation. Good job,

1920
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:33,720
Nick. Well, I've

1921
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,560
set this up to the discussion around the

1922
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:39,080
strategic session. Uh Nick, I'll turn it

1923
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:40,560
to you to start walking through the

1924
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,120
detail of the tentative budget uh with

1925
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:44,280
the

1926
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:45,320
um

1927
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,520
with the reminder that it is indeed the

1928
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,400
tentative budget and then So, Nick, you

1929
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,400
want to talk through process

1930
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,680
uh the budget process?

1931
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,000
Or you can talk through the budget

1932
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,320
itself. Nick, we can tag team you. Yes,

1933
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,400
indeed. So, um you'll see this this will

1934
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:00,920
be in your conclusion portion of your

1935
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:04,080
memo, uh but uh at this meeting we are

1936
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,240
filing the tentative budget with you as

1937
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,240
the board. We will need you to review

1938
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:12,480
and approve this tentative budget, set a

1939
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,200
time and location for the hearing on the

1940
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,960
tentative budget, uh as well as the

1941
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:19,799
meeting for the uh

1942
01:08:19,799 --> 01:08:22,640
adopting the official budget for June.

1943
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,000
That uh and the rules in which that

1944
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:26,799
meeting will take place. Uh that's the

1945
01:08:26,799 --> 01:08:28,600
process that we'll we'll be going

1946
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:29,440
through.

1947
01:08:29,440 --> 01:08:31,520
Um with that, I'll walk through what we

1948
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:32,920
have proposed for you. So, as you can

1949
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:34,839
see, we have a memo for you as well as

1950
01:08:34,839 --> 01:08:35,839
the

1951
01:08:35,839 --> 01:08:38,839
uh hard numbers included in your packet.

1952
01:08:38,839 --> 01:08:41,759
We're proposing uh a budget for FY '27

1953
01:08:41,759 --> 01:08:46,309
of $4,611,600,

1954
01:08:46,319 --> 01:08:49,720
of which $3,905,000

1955
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,000
is ongoing general revenue,

1956
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:55,200
uh $592,600

1957
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,440
is state-funded technical assistance,

1958
01:08:57,440 --> 01:09:00,400
and uh $114,000

1959
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:03,520
is pulled from unrestricted reserves. In

1960
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,680
total, this is a decrease of 10.4% from

1961
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:10,680
the FY26 adopted budget. Now, you'll see

1962
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,400
as we get into that that decrease number

1963
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:14,920
is slightly misleading. Um because we

1964
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:18,720
budgeted at the beginning um for 700,000

1965
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,200
in the DWS

1966
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:22,200
uh uh

1967
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,480
subdivisions and mapping grant. That is

1968
01:09:24,480 --> 01:09:26,520
the full amount of the grant. When we

1969
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,359
adopted the budget, the actual details

1970
01:09:28,359 --> 01:09:29,880
of the grant were not in place. We

1971
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:31,560
didn't have a signed agreement uh with

1972
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:33,960
DWS on how that would work. That those

1973
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,839
700,000 are spread out over 3 years. So,

1974
01:09:36,839 --> 01:09:39,080
you'll see in our estimates for year

1975
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:40,600
end, we're actually looking at about

1976
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,400
227,000

1977
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:45,920
in the FY26, the year we're in, whereas

1978
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:47,799
what we budgeted at 700,000. So, that's

1979
01:09:47,799 --> 01:09:49,799
where you see that giant decreases. Oh,

1980
01:09:49,799 --> 01:09:51,480
no, the budget was 700,000, but in

1981
01:09:51,480 --> 01:09:54,560
reality it's about 200 and and change

1982
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:57,160
over these 3 years. Um FY27 will be the

1983
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,320
second year of that grant. We'll have a

1984
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:02,080
final year of the FY21. So, that's why

1985
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:03,960
you see that large decrease, even though

1986
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,200
we've seen restored funding uh in the

1987
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,800
state grant areas with uh the LAA

1988
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,320
funding.

1989
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:11,640
Um also, throughout the budget, you'll

1990
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,120
see we uh

1991
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:14,880
if you've memorized the line items from

1992
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,040
years past, uh we've rearranged those a

1993
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:18,960
little bit. Um the year-over-year

1994
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:21,120
comparisons are the same, uh but we

1995
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:22,920
thought this the way we've laid it out

1996
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,080
here better encapsulates our divisional

1997
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,440
structure. Um so, we see stuff under

1998
01:10:27,440 --> 01:10:29,280
operations, under advocacy and

1999
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,240
engagement, etc. So, it's just a little

2000
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:32,920
uh we've done that every couple of years

2001
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:34,000
where we just kind of see how it

2002
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:36,680
operates and um better refined so it uh

2003
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,760
is a better explanation of the lines.

2004
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:41,800
Um the general revenue increase, and as

2005
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:43,040
we talked about it in the strategic

2006
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:44,560
session, we we kind of bifurcate the

2007
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:46,120
budget where we have our general revenue

2008
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:48,720
and then we have any state funding, uh

2009
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:50,240
grants, that sort of thing as a as a

2010
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:51,960
separate entity. So, general revenue is

2011
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,400
really what uh we want to pay attention

2012
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,480
to. Uh the general revenue increased by

2013
01:10:56,480 --> 01:10:59,880
$60,000 or 1.6%

2014
01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:03,000
over the FY26 budget. Um, that includes

2015
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:04,680
the major component of that is the

2016
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:07,560
$50,000 total increase in membership

2017
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,440
dues revenue compared to the budgeted

2018
01:11:09,440 --> 01:11:12,960
amounts of last year or a 1.9% increase

2019
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:14,320
there.

2020
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,600
Uh, conference registration remains

2021
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,200
stable. It is budgeted slightly lower

2022
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,400
because we do not have the elected

2023
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,360
officials essentials run off here for

2024
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:27,320
that in yeah, FY2027.

2025
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:29,240
Uh, as mentioned, the grant special

2026
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:30,840
project and state funding revenue,

2027
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:34,680
there's a decrease of $157,400

2028
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:37,480
or a 21% decrease and that is explained

2029
01:11:37,480 --> 01:11:39,000
by the

2030
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:42,040
better budgeting of the 3-year $700,000

2031
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,640
EWAF grant. We've also as I mentioned

2032
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,840
received full funding of $380,000 for

2033
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,400
the EWAF program.

2034
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:53,000
Uh, we do have $114,000

2035
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,200
worth of unrestricted reserve budget for

2036
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:58,440
this year. Uh, this is not because we

2037
01:11:58,440 --> 01:12:00,640
need to tap into our reserves because we

2038
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:02,720
don't have enough money in this year. As

2039
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:04,960
you recall, this is because of our

2040
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:08,200
policy to have our reserves between 25%

2041
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:11,080
and 50% of our previous year budget.

2042
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:12,320
Uh, we would need to tap into about

2043
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:15,040
114,000 of those unrestricted reserves

2044
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:17,480
to get us at about 48%

2045
01:12:17,480 --> 01:12:20,040
estimate at the end of next fiscal year.

2046
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:21,760
So, that's why we're pulling those in.

2047
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:26,040
Uh, what we're planning to use this for some one-time capital improvements

2048
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,040
around the office. The office was

2049
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,400
remodeled in 2018, so we'll do some

2050
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,920
updates since then. And then we're

2051
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,160
hopefully going to expand our capacity.

2052
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:39,080
Meg works almost entirely remotely and

2053
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,040
we don't know with this new position if

2054
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:42,840
we'll have kind of hybrid in office,

2055
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:43,880
that sort of thing. So, we want to

2056
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:47,280
expand some space for that position.

2057
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:49,080
Uh, moving on to personnel, I have our

2058
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,080
computers to share with the chairman.

2059
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:54,000
Yes, indeed. Yep. Yep. We we will have

2060
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,440
that. Uh, in the personnel expenses,

2061
01:12:56,440 --> 01:12:58,120
we're seeing an overall increase of

2062
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:01,440
$50,000, which is a 2.3%

2063
01:13:01,440 --> 01:13:04,560
increase over the FY26 budget. Uh if you

2064
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:08,400
look within the subcategories there, um

2065
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:10,360
we are budgeting our staff salaries to

2066
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:13,520
remain uh same over last year in total,

2067
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:14,680
and that's because of the switching

2068
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:16,800
positions. However, we are budgeting

2069
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:19,440
more uh benefits will cost more, and we

2070
01:13:19,440 --> 01:13:21,640
are budgeting more in contract labor

2071
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:23,560
there uh to fill in some of those gaps

2072
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:25,680
with next extra seats.

2073
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:27,920
And Nick, I'll I'll just note that that

2074
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,240
section, because of the pivot, is

2075
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:31,520
subject to change over the next couple

2076
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:33,200
weeks as we, you know, we'll start doing

2077
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:34,440
the job posting and we'll figure out

2078
01:13:34,440 --> 01:13:36,440
those pieces and hopefully have that all

2079
01:13:36,440 --> 01:13:38,000
resolved in the next few weeks prior to

2080
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,720
the gym board meeting. Absolutely.

2081
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:42,000
Uh moving on to operations and

2082
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:43,920
administration expenses, we're looking

2083
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,640
at a decrease of $41,700

2084
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,360
or 11%, um and a lot of that is because

2085
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,360
we are in our off year as far as when

2086
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:52,880
publications go out. I don't have

2087
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:55,480
elected officials uh essentials.

2088
01:13:55,480 --> 01:13:57,640
Um advocacy and engagement expenses,

2089
01:13:57,640 --> 01:13:59,640
there's no increase. It's at the same

2090
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:01,960
levels of 2026. However, we've shifted

2091
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:03,960
around a little bit. We've increased the

2092
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,600
travel budget um so that we can get out

2093
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,160
and about throughout the state, and we

2094
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:12,040
uh have lowered slightly the policy uh

2095
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:13,920
research budget, which we had backfilled

2096
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:15,880
last year with reserves, just back to

2097
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,520
FY2025 levels.

2098
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:20,800
Uh event expenses, there is a decrease

2099
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:24,200
of $69,000 or 6.7%

2100
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,360
uh over the FY26 budget. Uh and that is

2101
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,720
because we are again holding uh fewer

2102
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:31,240
events. So, those numbers have reverted

2103
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:34,840
back to FY25 levels as well.

2104
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:36,760
Hey, just to be clear, we're still

2105
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:38,280
holding a lot of events, we're just not

2106
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:40,640
holding the newly elected focus events.

2107
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,320
Yeah. And and the uh we also budgeted

2108
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:46,520
more last year for the uh NLC uh uh,

2109
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:48,160
this the events we held in conjunction

2110
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,200
with NLC here in Salt Lake.

2111
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:52,680
I'm making a question. On the

2112
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:54,080
annual convention that we have in Salt

2113
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:55,680
Lake City, did you just

2114
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:57,000
uh, kept the same budget we had last

2115
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:57,800
year?

2116
01:14:57,800 --> 01:14:59,240
Assuming that we have a different place

2117
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,680
in 2023. Yeah, this is This 2023 fiscal

2118
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:02,840
year will still be in Salt So, this will

2119
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:03,960
be in Salt Lake. All right. I'm going to

2120
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:05,480
let you know. It's still up in the air.

2121
01:15:05,480 --> 01:15:06,680
You can leave it behind. Okay, got you.

2122
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:08,520
So, we still have some some really good

2123
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:10,240
comparatives. And then we'll be the

2124
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:11,600
replacement. The next year is when

2125
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:13,320
things will Right, yeah. So, that's one

2126
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:15,560
year off. Okay, thanks.

2127
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:16,520
Uh,

2128
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:26,030
I'm scrolling down the list. So,

2129
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:26,600
Uh,

2130
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:28,280
and as explained in the revenue section,

2131
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:29,760
the grant, special project, and state

2132
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:33,840
funding decreased uh, 572,645,

2133
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:37,840
45.3% less than FY26.

2134
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:40,360
Um, we backfilled because the LAA

2135
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:43,040
funding was uh, cut for the league in

2136
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:44,680
the current fiscal year that we're in.

2137
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:46,920
We backfilled that with the unrestricted

2138
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:48,960
reserves uh, that were Sorry, with the

2139
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,200
restricted reserves that were um, held

2140
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,560
over for LAA specifically. Um, so,

2141
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:55,280
that's the major decrease there. And

2142
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,640
then the adjustments uh, as I mentioned

2143
01:15:57,640 --> 01:15:59,120
with the DWS land use technical

2144
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,400
assistance grant as well.

2145
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:03,760
Um, ultimately, we uh, believe that the

2146
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:05,560
budget we're proposing fulfills the ULCT

2147
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:07,880
mission in a financially responsible way

2148
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:09,240
and will give us the resources we need

2149
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:10,640
to increase staff bandwidth and

2150
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:12,160
performance.

2151
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,440
Uh, we ask the board to adopt this

2152
01:16:14,440 --> 01:16:17,720
proposed FY27 tentative budget and uh,

2153
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:19,320
request that the board provides feedback

2154
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:21,440
to be incorporated in the final budget

2155
01:16:21,440 --> 01:16:24,040
uh, that we will be presenting in June.

2156
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,080
Uh, the board also must schedule a time

2157
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:27,960
and place for the public hearing that

2158
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:29,360
will be held on the adopted tentative

2159
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,680
budget before the official adoption of

2160
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:33,760
the final budget uh, as well as

2161
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,360
procedural rules for that hearing.

2162
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:38,400
Um, given that the board only meets once

2163
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,560
in May and once in June, staff

2164
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:42,200
recommends scheduling the public hearing

2165
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:43,960
on the same day that the board will

2166
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:47,200
consider uh, the adoption of the FY2027

2167
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:51,600
budget. And that day will be June 22nd

2168
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:55,600
2026 at Bountiful City Hall at noon.

2169
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:57,840
Staff is also making recommendation to

2170
01:16:57,840 --> 01:16:59,960
limit public comment to items directly

2171
01:16:59,960 --> 01:17:02,560
related to the budget with a 3-minute

2172
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:04,680
time limit and the ability to submit

2173
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:05,960
written comments.

2174
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,200
We're happy to

2175
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,520
make any adjustments as foreseen fit

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01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:11,680
there.

2177
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:14,080
But those are the the pieces that we

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01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:15,800
need the board to do

2179
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:17,760
comply with our state law budget wise

2180
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:19,760
and our own budgeting procedures.

2181
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:22,640
Happy to answer any questions.

2182
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:24,800
We do a late board meeting at the

2183
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:26,800
presidential city during the summer. So

2184
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:28,040
sometimes that's in June, sometimes

2185
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:29,040
that's in August. This year they

2186
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,080
couldn't work out to do it in June. So

2187
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:32,720
that's why it's at the Bountiful City

2188
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:34,960
Hall. Looking forward to introducing you

2189
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:36,640
all to Bountiful City Hall. It's a place

2190
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:38,160
I spend a lot of time.

2191
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:40,378
I bet it's a gorgeous city hall.

2192
01:17:40,378 --> 01:17:41,280
>> [clears throat]

2193
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:43,160
>> Maybe afterwards there'll be a bike

2194
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:44,680
ride.

2195
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:46,440
I have a question.

2196
01:17:46,440 --> 01:17:48,960
Sure. Let's Let's focus first on budget

2197
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:49,760
questions. Do you have a budget

2198
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:51,120
question? Okay. Let's go budget

2199
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:52,920
questions and then we'll go to any other

2200
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:54,720
questions. Question is on the public

2201
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:56,240
comment portion.

2202
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:58,800
I don't remember having a public comment

2203
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:00,120
at this

2204
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:04,040
before. Do we get public They public

2205
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:06,720
It's happened once before.

2206
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:08,440
I was just wondering because of the the

2207
01:18:08,440 --> 01:18:10,280
tightness of our limit on that. I

2208
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,000
thought there was some issue

2209
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:13,840
we limited them to.

2210
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,360
So as Cameron mentioned

2211
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,760
in recent memory we could only come up

2212
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,280
with with one time. It is a required

2213
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:24,160
public hearing opportunity. Since we

2214
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:26,680
haven't necessarily had

2215
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:30,240
um much public attend and want to make

2216
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,240
comment. You know, we are all aware that

2217
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:34,880
often in our board meetings we have

2218
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:36,880
you know, legislative staff or our

2219
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,200
friends from the counties or others

2220
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:41,560
sometimes from

2221
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:42,960
property rights coalition sometimes

2222
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:44,400
attend to just

2223
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:47,800
observe but requests for public comment

2224
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:50,640
to this group have been really rare. So,

2225
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:52,720
in anticipation

2226
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:55,200
we decided we should probably suggest

2227
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:56,800
some guidelines. We looked at what other

2228
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:58,160
cities

2229
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:00,520
do and trying to think of some

2230
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:02,200
recommendations to make. This one seemed

2231
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:03,720
to kind of fit within

2232
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,160
where a lot of cities are at. So, that's

2233
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:07,600
where the recommendation came from. I

2234
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:08,560
don't have any problems with that. I

2235
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:10,200
just wondered if there were any

2236
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:13,720
incidences that said that already? I think

2237
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:14,880
probably.

2238
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:16,920
Does anyone have any questions to on any

2239
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,000
of the budget numbers too that you want

2240
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:23,000
to have Nick walk through?

2241
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:27,800
And you got the LAA budget. So,

2242
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:31,160
but it passed in the house.

2243
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,720
But the state state and that funds us

2244
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:35,040
through

2245
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,360
This all I still want. So, this this

2246
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:39,000
upcoming fiscal year here. Okay.

2247
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,720
>> is restored. So, up to this point

2248
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:43,040
restricted

2249
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:44,920
Okay. So, we have funding for that and

2250
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,520
then will we be asking for more than the

2251
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:50,070
438 back up to the 500 or more in the

2252
01:19:50,070 --> 01:19:55,240
[clears throat] coming year? No, they restored the funding back to where it was for the original ask. So,

2253
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:57,560
we're back to that level. Okay, right.

2254
01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:00,280
And then what what will be working

2255
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:01,880
through with the AOGs and the governor's

2256
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:04,360
offices is to get the exact expectations

2257
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:05,800
of how those dollars will be spent.

2258
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:07,480
That'll be part of the the June

2259
01:20:07,480 --> 01:20:09,200
recommendations. June recommendations,

2260
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:11,160
okay. I appreciate that. But the the

2261
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:13,360
three general buckets have been the

2262
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:15,560
staff member which you know right now

2263
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,240
it's McKenna, the administrative costs

2264
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:19,640
and then the expert pool. Those are the

2265
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:22,040
three general buckets. Okay. But we'll

2266
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:22,960
be working through that a little more

2267
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:24,360
specifically over the next few weeks.

2268
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:26,240
Okay, great. Thanks. Any additional

2269
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:30,870
budget questions for Nick or Cameron?

2270
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:34,440
on the proposed tentative budget.

2271
01:20:34,440 --> 01:20:38,950
Is there anyone online with a question?

2272
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:40,640
I just want to get our friends that are

2273
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:43,360
participating in hybrid mode.

2274
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:45,040
I need that we're not taking up any of

2275
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:50,630
that.

2276
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:52,480
was equal. Who's second that? Oh,

2277
01:20:52,480 --> 01:20:53,520
and time.

2278
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:56,030
Okay.

2279
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:57,120
Yeah, that's what we're looking for,

2280
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:58,280
three

2281
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,520
Okay. three-fold motion Yes, you're

2282
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:01,960
looking for a three-fold motion and then

2283
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:04,520
it is the time and place and the cost.

2284
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:05,600
Yes.

2285
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:09,710
Any questions on the

2286
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:13,120
time and place or the policy before we

2287
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:14,800
entertain a hand motion.

2288
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:16,480
We have Mayor Waddoups now.

2289
01:21:16,480 --> 01:21:20,790
Question / comment, anyone else?

2290
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:21,960
Okay.

2291
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:23,680
Seeing none, then yes, we are we are to

2292
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:24,680
the point where we would be willing to

2293
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:26,000
entertain a

2294
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:27,666
three-fold motion.

2295
01:21:27,666 --> 01:21:28,920
>> [laughter]

2296
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:30,480
>> I make a motion that we move that we

2297
01:21:30,480 --> 01:21:32,760
approve the tentative budget for fiscal

2298
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:35,160
year '27

2299
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:39,080
and that we set a public hearing

2300
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:42,400
uh to review this budget as a board

2301
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:45,960
in our June board meeting

2302
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:49,240
which is June 22nd, 2026 at the

2303
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:52,960
Bountiful City Hall to be held at noon

2304
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:59,120
and that we have a policy to allow for public

2305
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:01,080
comment and we'll limit that public

2306
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:03,080
comment to 3 minutes.

2307
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:04,200
Uh

2308
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:05,400
that those comments can be related to

2309
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:07,280
the budget

2310
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:10,520
and it need be allowed or anybody can

2311
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:13,520
also submit written comment.

2312
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:15,000
Okay, we have a motion, do we have a

2313
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:17,880
second? Second it.

2314
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:19,320
Uh I'm going to give that to to Mayor

2315
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:22,190
Waddoups now.

2316
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:25,720
Just just so you know, Mayor, we're just laughing cuz the volume is

2317
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:28,080
way up for that. So, we've got it.

2318
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:28,960
Oh.

2319
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:30,800
We got that second. Not your fault. I

2320
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,000
think it's on our end in the room.

2321
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:36,750
So, I'll speak quieter.

2322
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:37,752
Robust second.

2323
01:22:37,752 --> 01:22:38,560
>> [laughter]

2324
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:41,400
>> Uh any discussion?

2325
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:43,320
Okay. Seeing none, I'll call for the

2326
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:46,520
vote to adopt the uh fiscal year 2027

2327
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:48,960
tentative budget, just set the time and

2328
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,640
place for our uh public hearing on June

2329
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:53,520
22nd, 2026.

2330
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:55,480
It'll be fabulous about 3:00, so we call

2331
01:22:55,480 --> 01:22:59,120
it noon. And then that that we adopt uh

2332
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:04,430
guidelines for our public comment. Um

2333
01:23:04,440 --> 01:23:06,040
3 minutes.

2334
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,000
Persons related directly to the budget

2335
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:09,000
and they will be restricted to written

2336
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:10,320
comments.

2337
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,120
I'll call for the vote. I think you put

2338
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:13,760
words in my mouth.

2339
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:14,040
I'll allow

2340
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:15,560
>> That That restatement of your motion

2341
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:16,960
makes sense. I'll allow the friendly

2342
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:17,707
amendment.

2343
01:23:17,707 --> 01:23:23,670
>> [laughter]

2344
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:27,230
» I thought it was a fine

2345
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,680
I think it was. The land council. Uh

2346
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:32,360
Now, before I call for the vote, we have

2347
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:33,880
maybe one in the chat. So, I just want

2348
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:35,120
to make sure if there was any discussion

2349
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:36,560
that we

2350
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:38,280
Oh, someone's already on it. Okay. All

2351
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:42,550
in favor, say I. I. I.

2352
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:44,280
Any opposed?

2353
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:45,920
Okay. Our tentative budget has been

2354
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:47,600
adopted. I encourage

2355
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:48,600
um

2356
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:50,280
all of the the board, any other

2357
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:52,800
interested parties to uh

2358
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:54,387
feel free to review while it's

2359
01:23:54,387 --> 01:23:55,080
[clears throat] open to the public

2360
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:56,360
inspection.

2361
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:58,800
And uh

2362
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:00,640
feel free to submit written comments or

2363
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:03,720
be prepared for our June 22nd meeting.

2364
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:05,600
With that, we will move on to our

2365
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:07,920
engagement report. Uh

2366
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:10,040
Molly. Hi, everyone.

2367
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:11,080
Um

2368
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:13,800
everyone's favorite, homelessness.

2369
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:16,920
Thanks for having me.

2370
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,200
So, as Ken mentioned, we have a few uh

2371
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:21,440
staff in places where we do cross over.

2372
01:24:21,440 --> 01:24:23,400
And uh this communication task force is

2373
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:25,640
a very good example of our engagement

2374
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:27,880
and advocacy crossover work. So,

2375
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:30,880
in 2018, the Shelter Cities Mitigation

2376
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:34,920
Fund was created. It is a fund that

2377
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:36,680
either pay into if you don't have

2378
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:38,960
qualifying shelter, or you receive funds

2379
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:40,320
from because you host qualifying

2380
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:43,360
shelter. Based around the premise that

2381
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:46,920
uh local government, cities and towns, have two main roles

2382
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:48,360
when it comes to addressing homelessness

2383
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:50,240
as a state, that of land use and

2384
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:52,640
non-public safety. So, you either have

2385
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:54,160
the land use of a shelter in your

2386
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:57,320
community, or you help um those with

2387
01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:59,200
that land use pay for the increased

2388
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:02,320
public safety cost. Um I think the fund

2389
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:03,720
has worked fairly well since its

2390
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:06,360
inception, but it's becoming abundantly

2391
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:08,760
clear that we need to re-envision it a

2392
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,200
bit. Um the way that it's structured

2393
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:13,280
right now, each time a new shelter city

2394
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:15,360
comes on, we need to kind of or new

2395
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:16,880
shelter comes on even, we kind of need

2396
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:19,680
to crack open the code, uh revamp

2397
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:21,720
everything, and what we would really

2398
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:24,600
like to do is create a collaborative

2399
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:27,280
process of between shelter cities,

2400
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:28,800
non-shelter cities, and the state since

2401
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:30,440
there's some state dollars in there.

2402
01:25:30,440 --> 01:25:32,040
Really thinking of how we can build a

2403
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:36,000
mitigation fund that shelter cities feel

2404
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:39,000
supported um by the non-shelter cities,

2405
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:41,600
and that there is um consistency in

2406
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,360
funding, that the funding is anticipated

2407
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:46,640
immediately whenever a shelter opens,

2408
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:49,520
that there are some clear uh guardrails

2409
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:50,920
and parameters

2410
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:52,400
um that are clearly communicated for the

2411
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:54,320
non-shelter cities so they know exactly

2412
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,400
what their dollars are going to in the

2413
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:57,840
shelter cities.

2414
01:25:57,840 --> 01:25:59,080
Um and really just trying to make sure

2415
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:00,800
that we have a good process for

2416
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:03,080
everyone. Um

2417
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:05,240
This is kind of one of our our bigger

2418
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:07,480
issues where it's, you know,

2419
01:26:07,480 --> 01:26:08,760
10 sheltering cities and everyone's

2420
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:10,320
involved in a pretty difficult issue.

2421
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:13,880
So, um we have worked with OHS to put

2422
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:16,120
together this task force.

2423
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:17,680
Um the board approved of the creation of

2424
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:19,560
the taskforce in April,

2425
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:21,440
um, and the structure of it.

2426
01:26:21,440 --> 01:26:23,680
Uh, right now what we're looking at,

2427
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:25,920
just for some context, uh, so it would

2428
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:29,080
be three appointees from the state. One

2429
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:31,040
would be, uh, Tyler Clancey, State

2430
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:33,320
Business Coordinator or his designee.

2431
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,640
Um, they have gotten word that one of

2432
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:37,960
the, uh, the confirmation that one of

2433
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:40,040
the designees from the state will also

2434
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:41,840
be Salt Lake City Mayor Erin Mendenhall

2435
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,280
since she serves on the State Homeless

2436
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:46,720
Board. Um, which is great cuz that's

2437
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:48,600
another local voice for us to have in

2438
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:50,640
this conversation. It also makes it

2439
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:53,000
easier for us because we only had three

2440
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:55,160
spaces for shelter city mayors and five

2441
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:57,120
shelter city mayors who were interested.

2442
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:58,320
Um,

2443
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:00,280
so with that we have, uh, Ogden Mayor

2444
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:02,600
and board member Ben Nadolski. Um, as I

2445
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:04,360
mentioned, uh, Mayor Erin Mendenhall

2446
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:06,960
will be filling a role from the state.

2447
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:08,560
We have South Salt Lake City Mayor

2448
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:11,000
Cherie Wood, St. George Mayor Jimmy

2449
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:13,160
Hughes, and Tooele Mayor Ernie Steadman

2450
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:16,120
and Mayor Gill. Um, we had a lot of good

2451
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:18,240
discussions about this, uh,

2452
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:19,640
in our April meeting about really

2453
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:20,880
wanting to make sure that we had

2454
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,640
geographic and population diversity,

2455
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:26,000
um, across the state. We also had a lot

2456
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:28,480
of great applicants come in to represent

2457
01:27:28,480 --> 01:27:30,720
the non-shelter cities, um, that you'll

2458
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:32,960
find listed on the back of that page.

2459
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:36,080
And pardon me, after this memo went out,

2460
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:38,560
we also got an application from

2461
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:40,000
Springville Mayor and board member

2462
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:41,880
Barbara Brudnicki.

2463
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:44,520
So, there are a couple things that we

2464
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:47,240
were considering as staff, um, as we

2465
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:48,840
wanted to bring forward our

2466
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:51,840
recommendations to this group. Uh, one I

2467
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:53,760
think great problem to have is we have a

2468
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:55,760
lot of stellar people who want to be

2469
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:58,760
involved in this conversation. And I do

2470
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:00,480
want to say that I think that while this

2471
01:28:00,480 --> 01:28:01,800
group will be just holding up the

2472
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:03,680
conversation, it will still be

2473
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:04,880
conversations that we have with the

2474
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:06,760
board, it will be conversations that we

2475
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:07,840
have with the Salt Lake City Policy

2476
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:10,120
Committee, uh, depending on the timing

2477
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:11,320
of how everything works out. It might be

2478
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:13,320
something that we even, you know, bring

2479
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:14,600
forward to the general membership at

2480
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:15,880
annual.

2481
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:16,560
Um,

2482
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:18,080
you know, we'll see during the session.

2483
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:21,160
So, while this will be a conversation

2484
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:23,360
group for this, uh, this isn't the only

2485
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:24,480
place the conversation will be

2486
01:28:24,480 --> 01:28:25,520
happening.

2487
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:26,880
Um,

2488
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:28,680
so with that said, and looking at the

2489
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:31,440
balance of those that represented that

2490
01:28:31,440 --> 01:28:33,560
applied, we do have a few

2491
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:36,000
recommendations for the board to

2492
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:37,200
consider.

2493
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:41,040
Um, we felt it was important for the

2494
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:43,520
non-shelter cities, um,

2495
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,120
to consider having Davis and Utah County

2496
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:47,680
represented since those are the two

2497
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:49,200
largest counties,

2498
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:50,400
um,

2499
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,880
that aid into the fund and do not have

2500
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:54,280
qualifying shelters as it currently

2501
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:56,200
stands, and and have some conversations

2502
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:58,960
in those communities about that. Um, so

2503
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:01,360
with that, we recommend, uh, Mayor Don

2504
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:04,040
Fullmer and President Keith Bradshaw as

2505
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:06,320
from Davis County, and then, uh, Mayor

2506
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:07,200
Karen

2507
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:09,040
Caldwell um,

2508
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:11,040
from Utah County.

2509
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:14,120
And then we also might suggest from

2510
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:16,280
Southern Utah having a more rural Utah

2511
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:18,360
voice put in forward, um,

2512
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:21,480
Springdale Mayor Harold Brunson as well.

2513
01:29:21,480 --> 01:29:23,480
Um, and then when it came to the

2514
01:29:23,480 --> 01:29:25,440
remaining shelter city mayors, we have

2515
01:29:25,440 --> 01:29:28,120
Mayor Melinda McCollum, um, and we

2516
01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:30,520
recommend considering including Mayor

2517
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:31,840
Ben McAdams,

2518
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:34,760
Mayor Cherie Wood, and Mayor Marissa

2519
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:38,880
Neff in Tooele. Um, I think one plug

2520
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:40,440
I'll put in just for the two tier two

2521
01:29:40,440 --> 01:29:42,200
shelter cities, they

2522
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:45,720
um, until Tooele came online as a major

2523
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:48,000
shelter, they were largely domestic

2524
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:49,440
violence shelters or shelters that had

2525
01:29:49,440 --> 01:29:51,600
pretty little community impact, and

2526
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:53,400
Tooele's kind of broken that model. And

2527
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:55,920
so I think as we reconsider what this

2528
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:58,440
fund looks like, it's, uh, an important

2529
01:29:58,440 --> 01:30:00,800
to have, um, a tier two from the two

2530
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,000
smaller shelter cities voice on that.

2531
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:04,400
Um, if the board would consider it, but

2532
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:05,960
those those kind of

2533
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:07,480
what we would recommend to staff, but

2534
01:30:07,480 --> 01:30:10,760
you also have some really stellar

2535
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:12,840
advocates.

2536
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:14,440
I think screen bill.

2537
01:30:14,440 --> 01:30:16,760
Yeah. So, sorry. She Her application

2538
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:18,960
came in after right after we sent out

2539
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:21,360
the memo. So,

2540
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:23,200
We unfortunately did not Fortunately,

2541
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:25,560
unfortunately, it was kind of open-ended

2542
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:27,600
application process. So, there wasn't

2543
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:31,280
necessarily deadline. So, we appreciate

2544
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:34,640
that some of them came in after.

2545
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:35,840
So,

2546
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:39,080
board members, this is um

2547
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:40,600
This was such an interesting bill during

2548
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:42,120
session. It was so great to pass this

2549
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:43,160
bill.

2550
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:44,120
Um

2551
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:46,240
with some high negotiation from the last

2552
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:48,200
session because of

2553
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:51,040
this critical component plus the fact

2554
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:53,760
that um our new homelessness coordinator

2555
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:55,280
uh Tyler Clancy was going to be moving

2556
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:57,720
from the legislature into his this new

2557
01:30:57,720 --> 01:30:59,560
role. Um

2558
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:01,920
the bill The bill actually sort of died

2559
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:03,080
and we had to

2560
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:05,680
um actually spend quite a bit of work uh

2561
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:07,800
narrowing its focus to that which would

2562
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:10,800
be acceptable and bringing it back. This

2563
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:12,680
component was one of those that was in

2564
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:14,480
the original bill.

2565
01:31:14,480 --> 01:31:16,800
Um didn't end up coming back in bill

2566
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:19,080
form, but came back through um

2567
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:21,040
commitment and agreement with

2568
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:22,520
coordinator. Do we call him coordinator

2569
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:25,800
Clancy? That's like a weird title.

2570
01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:28,440
Tyler uh coordinator Clancy.

2571
01:31:28,440 --> 01:31:30,680
Um but this was this was a really

2572
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:32,440
important discussion we felt needed to

2573
01:31:32,440 --> 01:31:34,280
be had around mitigation funds. I mean,

2574
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:37,040
this is This is cities helping cities.

2575
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:38,440
We've convinced the state to put a

2576
01:31:38,440 --> 01:31:39,840
little bit of skin in the game, but this

2577
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:42,440
is still largely cities helping cities

2578
01:31:42,440 --> 01:31:45,520
um with this important responsibility.

2579
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:46,080
Um

2580
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:48,400
and um

2581
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:49,840
feel like

2582
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:51,600
cities are therefore ought to take

2583
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:53,520
leadership role in these discussions

2584
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:55,640
about how we how we use these funds, how

2585
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:57,040
we understand these funds to be used,

2586
01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:58,880
how we measure them, how we measure

2587
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:03,030
success. So, um

2588
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:06,120
Uh it was one of those that Molly and

2589
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:08,840
Cameron and I own with

2590
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:10,200
just Tyler.

2591
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:11,240
Um

2592
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:12,520
Well, he was Representative Clason. He

2593
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:14,680
was Representative Clason. Spent a lot

2594
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:17,040
of the last week um

2595
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:18,840
having discussions about. So, I just

2596
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:20,760
offer that context as as we're

2597
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:23,160
considering who we want to

2598
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:26,480
um assign to uh

2599
01:32:26,480 --> 01:32:29,560
summer fund. And if I may, there is one

2600
01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:31,520
remaining appointee from the state board

2601
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:33,480
that we're still waiting on. So, there's

2602
01:32:33,480 --> 01:32:34,800
going to be one

2603
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:37,960
open spot and uh that is up to the chair

2604
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:40,400
of Human Services Board to appoint. And

2605
01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:42,600
we will let this group know who that is

2606
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:46,080
once it's there. And uh once this

2607
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:47,680
once the board approves of who we're

2608
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:48,840
going to have on the task force, we'll

2609
01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:50,560
get going on getting the task force

2610
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:51,720
meeting up and

2611
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:52,760
pretty quickly. So, we have until

2612
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:55,160
November to

2613
01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:56,160
I don't know what's going to happen.

2614
01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:58,120
Recommendations to the legislature act

2615
01:32:58,120 --> 01:32:59,480
on.

2616
01:32:59,480 --> 01:33:01,280
President or the board votes on it. I

2617
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:02,840
want to vocally thank St. George City,

2618
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:06,040
Mayor Hughes personally because if you

2619
01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:08,360
go forward with what Molly outlined,

2620
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:10,320
which is that shelter city tier one and

2621
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:14,000
two option, then St. George would not

2622
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:15,600
have somebody

2623
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:18,400
as one of the six league appointments.

2624
01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:20,960
Uh St. George wants to still be involved

2625
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:22,640
in the conversations, needs to be

2626
01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:23,760
involved in the conversations. One

2627
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:25,440
interesting tidbit about St. George,

2628
01:33:25,440 --> 01:33:27,680
just so everyone's aware, situational

2629
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:30,240
awareness, St. George actually owns

2630
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:33,480
their facility, which is unique with all

2631
01:33:33,480 --> 01:33:36,240
of the other shelter cities. So, yes,

2632
01:33:36,240 --> 01:33:38,480
they have the mitigation fund issue that

2633
01:33:38,480 --> 01:33:40,360
everybody else has, but they also are

2634
01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:43,360
very much in the operations space

2635
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:46,000
like a Switchpoint or other provider.

2636
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:47,560
And there is

2637
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:50,400
there there is significant inequity

2638
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:52,400
between how St. George receives funding

2639
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:54,840
on the operations side compared to those

2640
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:57,320
other operators. That is separate from

2641
01:33:57,320 --> 01:33:59,680
what this task force will be doing and

2642
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:00,880
St. George will be heavily involved in

2643
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:02,440
that conversation and has asked for the

2644
01:34:02,440 --> 01:34:03,960
support of

2645
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:05,080
League members in the and that

2646
01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:06,840
conversation too, which will be again

2647
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:08,520
separate but related to this entire

2648
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:10,840
process as well. And Cameron, one other

2649
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:13,120
thing on this that I forgot to talk

2650
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:14,400
about. One of the other groups that will

2651
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:16,360
convene frequently will do what we can

2652
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:18,000
to convene the League for LPC and our

2653
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:19,760
internal as you mentioned, but Shelter

2654
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:22,400
Cities Advisory Board is a statutory

2655
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:24,200
group that exists and I imagine that we

2656
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:25,920
will continue to convene that group

2657
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:27,680
pretty frequently

2658
01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:29,760
so that even though all of those mayors

2659
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:31,600
will not be on this work group, there

2660
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:33,360
will still be frequent conversations of

2661
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:35,040
specifically the Shelter Cities

2662
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:37,040
throughout this process as well.

2663
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:38,840
Will they be open meetings that

2664
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:40,040
we can still attend even though we're

2665
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:41,400
not on the work group?

2666
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:43,800
Um we haven't formalized that yet. It's

2667
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:46,520
not a formal public group.

2668
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:48,400
So I don't I don't think we'd be

2669
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:50,160
following you know, their

2670
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:52,720
open and public noticing thing, but

2671
01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:55,040
I don't know what our It doesn't mean

2672
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,920
It's a statutory so it wouldn't be required. It wouldn't be

2673
01:34:57,920 --> 01:34:59,400
required.

2674
01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:01,920
But again, the intent here is that when

2675
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:03,680
we get to the end of the year, that

2676
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:06,160
every city and town in the state feels

2677
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:09,040
buy-in to that process. So that's why

2678
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:10,800
Molly gets Shelter City Advisory Group

2679
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:12,840
which is a statutory group that will

2680
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:15,720
continue operating LPC and board and

2681
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:16,840
then

2682
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:18,560
our first step was just

2683
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:20,440
get the people and then you approved the

2684
01:35:20,440 --> 01:35:22,200
process last time and

2685
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:24,360
now we want to make sure it's as as open

2686
01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:27,520
as as possible while also making sure

2687
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:28,960
that you can have the candid

2688
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:30,760
conversations as possible.

2689
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:31,760
Cuz this yeah, again, this is not a

2690
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:33,080
statutory group. This is something we're

2691
01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:36,360
doing in partnership with OHS to resolve

2692
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:38,560
these issues going forward.

2693
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:40,600
I'm good with the names that the staff

2694
01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:43,640
is recommending, but if

2695
01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:44,960
there's something that St. George can do

2696
01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:46,720
to help and

2697
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:48,360
attend some of those meetings, she's

2698
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:51,000
real busy during the daytime.

2699
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,200
Thank you.

2700
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:55,040
Thanks.

2701
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:57,160
And again, I truly appreciate the way

2702
01:35:57,160 --> 01:35:58,480
it's just

2703
01:35:58,480 --> 01:36:00,440
thought process, thought process behind

2704
01:36:00,440 --> 01:36:02,880
the selection, thought process today.

2705
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:04,000
Different, you know, I know we have

2706
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:05,960
shelter, non-shelter, or

2707
01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:08,880
tier one, tier two. I just

2708
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:10,640
I appreciate the thought process there,

2709
01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:11,640
and I think you have some great

2710
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:14,440
recommendations. Um

2711
01:36:14,440 --> 01:36:17,080
I'm supportive of all this. Amen. Yes.

2712
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:18,280
Yeah, I think it's a good team that you

2713
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:21,390
got you brought together.

2714
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:23,360
Any other comments, questions? Oh, it

2715
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:25,440
looks like Council Burton has her hand

2716
01:36:25,440 --> 01:36:27,200
raised.

2717
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:29,320
I just want wanted to mention also, and

2718
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:31,440
I'm sorry if this is super loud, the

2719
01:36:31,440 --> 01:36:32,320
work that's gone into these

2720
01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:34,800
recommendations, too. I I looked this

2721
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:37,080
over quite a bit and talked about it,

2722
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:38,080
and

2723
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:40,080
it seemed like a bit of a Rubik's Cube

2724
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:42,360
in trying to make sure we have coverage

2725
01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:45,720
from all the the tiers and the areas and

2726
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:46,960
the shelter cities and the non-shelter

2727
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:48,320
cities. So, I appreciate all the work

2728
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:49,960
and the thought that's gone into this.

2729
01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:51,360
And appreciate very much the

2730
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:52,920
recommendation to have some

2731
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:54,400
representation from Southern Utah, as

2732
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:56,440
well.

2733
01:36:56,440 --> 01:36:58,080
Thank you, Council Burton, and that was

2734
01:36:58,080 --> 01:36:59,440
the appropriate volume, which is, by the

2735
01:36:59,440 --> 01:37:01,240
way, all on our end in the room. Thank

2736
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:03,920
you. Uh appropriate volume of the TV,

2737
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:05,240
but that was a good volume. Thank you.

2738
01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:06,440
And then I saw that we had another hand

2739
01:37:06,440 --> 01:37:11,710
up, I think it was Council Burton Foley.

2740
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:14,240
Maybe. I can't hear you. No. No.

2741
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:16,360
Okay. I think it's the hand from the

2742
01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:19,160
last comment. Any other

2743
01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:20,800
comments, questions, feedback from the

2744
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:24,030
board?

2745
01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:26,720
All right, seeing none, uh is anyone

2746
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:28,480
prepared to make

2747
01:37:28,480 --> 01:37:31,000
a motion related to uh the staff

2748
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:33,560
recommendations?

2749
01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:35,240
I kind of did, so I'll finish it right

2750
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:36,880
now.

2751
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:38,560
Thank you, Mayor Burton. Mayor Burton

2752
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:41,160
moves the uh staff recommendations for

2753
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:42,520
both the shelter city and the

2754
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:43,960
non-shelter

2755
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:46,800
city participant nominations. Second. We

2756
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:49,520
have a second from Council Region.

2757
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:50,840
We've had a bit of discussion, so we'll

2758
01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:52,120
just go ahead and move to the vote on

2759
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:57,720
this one. All in favor, please say I. I.

2760
01:37:57,720 --> 01:37:58,800
think we have a vote in the chat, so

2761
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:01,800
we'll just wait for those eyes.

2762
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:02,720
Okay.

2763
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:06,630
Any opposed?

2764
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:08,560
If none, looking forward to spend some

2765
01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:10,160
quality

2766
01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:13,360
spending time on this topic.

2767
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:16,040
And that will move us over to our

2768
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:17,880
advocacy

2769
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:19,440
report.

2770
01:38:19,440 --> 01:38:20,440
Justin.

2771
01:38:20,440 --> 01:38:22,120
Um Amicus timing, Justin. You're up

2772
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:23,480
first on this.

2773
01:38:23,480 --> 01:38:24,600
Yes.

2774
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:28,950
So, uh

2775
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:30,560
I'm here, so I don't know if you can see

2776
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:31,160
me.

2777
01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:33,240
Um last uh

2778
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:34,720
last board meeting, we talked a little

2779
01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:36,680
bit about uh

2780
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:37,280
I

2781
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:41,440
I've Amicus brief Amicus. Yeah.

2782
01:38:41,440 --> 01:38:42,800
for this one.

2783
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:46,160
Amicus. Okay. Okay. another year, but I

2784
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:47,200
don't have to pay

2785
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:48,720
a big sum, so.

2786
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:51,720
Uh the Amicus request uh from Salt Lake

2787
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:52,720
City

2788
01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:53,400
uh

2789
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:56,560
regarding impact fees. And uh

2790
01:38:56,560 --> 01:38:58,480
as far as the timing goes, we're ready

2791
01:38:58,480 --> 01:38:59,800
to meet with

2792
01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:00,880
um

2793
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:03,720
the uh the litigators as well as the

2794
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:07,360
individual from UAC who will be uh

2795
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:10,360
drafting the Amicus brief.

2796
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:14,240
Um the there was an extension for filing

2797
01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:16,320
of the initial brief

2798
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:17,160
uh

2799
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:20,080
filed by Salt Lake City to July 9th.

2800
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:22,400
We will receive

2801
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:23,080
uh

2802
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:24,680
that we've been told that we will

2803
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:28,360
receive a draft of Amicus uh

2804
01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:31,000
brief by May 29th.

2805
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:35,840
Um and so that gives uh all of you time

2806
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:37,680
to at least look it over. Once we

2807
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:39,840
receive it, we'll send it on.

2808
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:42,320
Uh and then at the following board

2809
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:43,400
meeting,

2810
01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:45,240
uh we will the board will need to

2811
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:47,800
consider that and either

2812
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:49,760
vote yes or no to

2813
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:50,960
uh

2814
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:54,120
to sign on to that amicus brief.

2815
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:58,680
So, we this two amicus briefs, we

2816
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:01,080
there there is one other city, I

2817
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:03,720
believe, that will be filing

2818
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:04,760
uh

2819
01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:06,400
an amicus brief.

2820
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:08,600
And then also

2821
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:11,520
the International Municipal Attorneys

2822
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:14,480
Association has also

2823
01:40:14,480 --> 01:40:19,360
agreed to file a amicus brief. So, there

2824
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:21,280
are other amicus briefs that are also

2825
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:23,480
going to be filed,

2826
01:40:23,480 --> 01:40:26,000
um and we don't have access to those,

2827
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:28,280
but we would be

2828
01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:30,560
waiting on the International Municipal

2829
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:33,590
Attorneys Group.

2830
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:35,560
Thank you for your brief comments.

2831
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:40,840
Any any questions on the impact

2832
01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:45,830
brief?

2833
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:48,760
Okay, thank you for that update and

2834
01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:50,160
appreciate

2835
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:52,480
all of the rapid work and also figuring

2836
01:40:52,480 --> 01:40:56,230
out the proper pronunciation.

2837
01:40:56,240 --> 01:40:57,680
I would just like to note, according to

2838
01:40:57,680 --> 01:40:59,760
the American Bar Association,

2839
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:01,320
depending what part of the country

2840
01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:02,680
you're in, it does get pronounced

2841
01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:03,440
different ways.

2842
01:41:03,440 --> 01:41:04,160
>> Oh.

2843
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:05,440
So,

2844
01:41:05,440 --> 01:41:07,280
and different Supreme Court justices

2845
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:09,320
themselves pronounce it different ways.

2846
01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:10,440
And the Brits have their own version,

2847
01:41:10,440 --> 01:41:12,000
too, so.

2848
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:13,720
I'm just saying.

2849
01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:15,840
Salt Lake City would agree with you.

2850
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:17,840
But that's why we need their help.

2851
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:20,280
But I'm just saying it could be

2852
01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:22,880
different ways. Yes.

2853
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:25,670
Okay. How would you say it on stage?

2854
01:41:25,675 --> 01:41:25,680
» [clears throat]

2855
01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:26,360
>> I would

2856
01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:28,960
where I was at in the country.

2857
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:31,360
Moving on to the next item, which is the

2858
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:33,160
potential partnerships on housing

2859
01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:35,200
policy. Can I make a suggestion? I'm

2860
01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:37,000
covering this one for Carson because

2861
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:39,320
he's out of town today

2862
01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:40,920
for his first real opportunity to catch

2863
01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:42,600
his breath since the session. So, I'm

2864
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:44,680
going to talk about everybody still

2865
01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:46,560
running hard since the session and and

2866
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:47,440
so

2867
01:41:47,440 --> 01:41:49,240
today's Carson's first

2868
01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:51,280
real day off since then.

2869
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:53,880
And so, the

2870
01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:56,160
partnership not preemption mantra that

2871
01:41:56,160 --> 01:41:58,040
the board adopted several years ago and

2872
01:41:58,040 --> 01:41:59,240
it's been the centerpiece of our

2873
01:41:59,240 --> 01:42:01,240
legislative advocacy for the last years

2874
01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:03,080
has paid dividends at the capital.

2875
01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:04,640
And we have other state we turn the

2876
01:42:04,640 --> 01:42:05,680
capital

2877
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:08,240
using that that term in TML. When we had

2878
01:42:08,240 --> 01:42:10,000
National League of Cities here in Salt

2879
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:11,280
Lake in November, we had little

2880
01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:13,600
partnership not preemption pins that we

2881
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:15,560
distributed to our fellow Carson across

2882
01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:17,160
the country.

2883
01:42:17,160 --> 01:42:18,760
What has been interesting over the last

2884
01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:21,240
few months is that groups that maybe

2885
01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:23,560
historically have been our adversaries

2886
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:26,800
or frenemies have said, "We hear you on

2887
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:28,440
the partnership. Can we partner with you

2888
01:42:28,440 --> 01:42:30,600
on training?" Now, we've partnered with

2889
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:31,960
a lot of these groups for years through

2890
01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:33,920
the task force. So,

2891
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:36,680
Megan and I have been

2892
01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:38,720
many years and we will continue to do so

2893
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:41,360
and in fact, this past legislative

2894
01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:43,280
session, President Adams and Speaker

2895
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:44,440
Straus

2896
01:42:44,440 --> 01:42:46,520
actually did a commendation for the

2897
01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:47,960
language task force on the house and

2898
01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:50,360
senate floor that that we attended. And

2899
01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:52,160
so, this is separate from those

2900
01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:54,480
conversations because we've always

2901
01:42:54,480 --> 01:42:55,880
had those discussions with other

2902
01:42:55,880 --> 01:42:57,120
stakeholders and brought them back to

2903
01:42:57,120 --> 01:42:59,720
LPC or or the board when it comes to

2904
01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:03,000
policy changes at the at the capital.

2905
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:04,320
This has been a little different these

2906
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:06,480
last few months. It's been some saying,

2907
01:43:06,480 --> 01:43:08,560
"Can we partner with you on training?"

2908
01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:11,080
And so, Nick, if you scan down

2909
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:13,040
into the same page of the memo where

2910
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:15,040
Carson bullet pointed several of the

2911
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:16,720
requests of Catherine Egard, you'll see

2912
01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:18,520
one of them ties into the technology

2913
01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:19,840
piece here

2914
01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:22,560
that we've had questions of like, "Can

2915
01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:24,400
we partner with you on policy templates?

2916
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:26,440
Can we create a cohort of elected

2917
01:43:26,440 --> 01:43:28,000
officials

2918
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:31,200
to work together on on X topic?"

2919
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:34,080
"Can we work on Can we do some joint

2920
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:35,680
webinars with them or partner with

2921
01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:36,920
different companies?

2922
01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:39,080
And there are pros and cons to

2923
01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:41,240
partnering on the training side. Um, I

2924
01:43:41,240 --> 01:43:43,240
think when we talk about collaboration

2925
01:43:43,240 --> 01:43:45,640
and working together to solve problems

2926
01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:47,200
through our advocacy arm, that's

2927
01:43:47,200 --> 01:43:48,440
something we're all accustomed to doing

2928
01:43:48,440 --> 01:43:50,320
and have done so regularly. On the

2929
01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:51,160
training side, I think it's an

2930
01:43:51,160 --> 01:43:52,840
interesting it's an interesting

2931
01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:55,120
potential pivot for us, um, especially

2932
01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:57,200
with with Mike's departure.

2933
01:43:57,200 --> 01:43:58,520
So, we have these different asks that

2934
01:43:58,520 --> 01:44:00,040
have come to us.

2935
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:01,240
And I think if you go down the last

2936
01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:03,120
page, really the the question we just

2937
01:44:03,120 --> 01:44:05,360
wanted to ask this group is mainly a

2938
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:09,760
smell test. If you If you see

2939
01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:12,360
um, any landmines to partners of these

2940
01:44:12,360 --> 01:44:14,360
groups. I'm not using any names because

2941
01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:15,600
I think all these groups have approached

2942
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:17,600
us in good faith saying, "We want to

2943
01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:19,720
partner with you on some training." But

2944
01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:21,880
you've seen the different topics of that

2945
01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:24,840
they're doing. So, on one hand, I think

2946
01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:26,600
there's a reputational benefit to say

2947
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:28,520
we're working together with these groups

2948
01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:30,080
on this type of training. On the other,

2949
01:44:30,080 --> 01:44:31,960
there's also the reputational risk that

2950
01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:34,200
it feels like we're maybe endorsing a

2951
01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:36,880
group that has historically been at odds

2952
01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:38,920
with cities. But it's an interesting

2953
01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:40,560
partnership opportunity. So, really the

2954
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:42,320
question, and this is again just come up

2955
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:44,320
in the last few weeks as we're building

2956
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:47,160
out our our advocacy and engagement

2957
01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:48,680
priorities this summer, we just wanted a

2958
01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:50,760
quick smell test from the board. Is this

2959
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:53,520
something worth pursuing? Is it worth

2960
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:56,640
pursuing to keep your guard up or

2961
01:44:56,640 --> 01:44:58,400
keep your distance?

2962
01:44:58,400 --> 01:45:00,680
I think it's a great idea. But

2963
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:02,640
if we might be collaborate better out,

2964
01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:04,800
we'll come out together, we'll be

2965
01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:07,120
solid before we get there.

2966
01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:08,920
I think it's dangerous.

2967
01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:10,760
I agree with that part, but I also have

2968
01:45:10,760 --> 01:45:12,440
my I'm hesitant sometimes with the

2969
01:45:12,440 --> 01:45:14,840
partnership cuz there's got to be a lead

2970
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:17,960
dog, and I think because I can often see

2971
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:19,520
the language of the training and the

2972
01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:21,040
language of some of the

2973
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:24,160
um, word we use, might be there might be

2974
01:45:24,160 --> 01:45:26,400
a difference, and

2975
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:27,160
uh,

2976
01:45:27,160 --> 01:45:29,120
there should be like okay

2977
01:45:29,120 --> 01:45:31,000
We're the lead trainer.

2978
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:32,520
You can make some recommendations or

2979
01:45:32,520 --> 01:45:35,640
some ideas, but I think We need to be

2980
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:38,000
careful of uh

2981
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:39,720
Who ends up with the power on on some

2982
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:40,680
things.

2983
01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:43,040
But I can see the partnership Maybe

2984
01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:45,320
taking a turn for for

2985
01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:47,520
Whatever the league wants. Yeah. And

2986
01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:49,080
that would be uh

2987
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:51,960
you end up with that.

2988
01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:55,080
Hustle on how you

2989
01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:57,320
Finish or how you train it. So that's my

2990
01:45:57,320 --> 01:45:58,480
only thing.

2991
01:45:58,480 --> 01:45:59,680
Take it with a

2992
01:45:59,680 --> 01:46:00,720
uh

2993
01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:03,760
Open eyes and and uh

2994
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:06,600
Concern, I guess. So more of that middle

2995
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:09,950
Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

2996
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:12,240
Yeah, yeah. I love the idea. I love the

2997
01:46:12,240 --> 01:46:14,200
idea of partnering where we

2998
01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:16,600
have obvious overlaps. I think that's a

2999
01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:20,480
great step, but same Specificity of how

3000
01:46:20,480 --> 01:46:23,960
we're Serving and what the roles are,

3001
01:46:23,960 --> 01:46:25,600
documented,

3002
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:28,880
guardrails, but General I support

3003
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:30,080
principle of an

3004
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:31,560
MOU to move forward, but we need to

3005
01:46:31,560 --> 01:46:33,800
define internally. I think that's key

3006
01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:36,040
question number one is

3007
01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:38,200
Circumstances. It is intriguing the

3008
01:46:38,200 --> 01:46:40,880
question about You know, different kinds

3009
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:42,840
of entities. You're going to have

3010
01:46:42,840 --> 01:46:46,000
Uh housing solutions, you have academic,

3011
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:47,480
you're going to have

3012
01:46:47,480 --> 01:46:49,680
Uh proprietary products, you're going to

3013
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:51,200
have all kinds of things.

3014
01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:52,520
I don't know the answer right now, but I

3015
01:46:52,520 --> 01:46:54,200
think as long as we're

3016
01:46:54,200 --> 01:46:56,400
Documenting and follow our rules, we'll

3017
01:46:56,400 --> 01:46:57,680
be okay.

3018
01:46:57,680 --> 01:46:59,480
I like that idea

3019
01:46:59,480 --> 01:47:02,440
Can I ask you without naming any, could

3020
01:47:02,440 --> 01:47:04,720
you give us what category the request is

3021
01:47:04,720 --> 01:47:07,040
about? Sure, yeah, absolutely. So if you

3022
01:47:07,040 --> 01:47:08,160
Nick, can you go back up to the five

3023
01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:09,440
bullet points?

3024
01:47:09,440 --> 01:47:12,829
So bullet points

3025
01:47:12,829 --> 01:47:14,160
>> [clears throat]

3026
01:47:14,160 --> 01:47:17,480
>> Bullet points one, two, three, and four

3027
01:47:17,480 --> 01:47:19,920
have all come from organizations with

3028
01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:21,960
whom we have collaborated at the capital

3029
01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:25,040
in the past on policy, often starting on

3030
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:27,840
opposite sides and then working to get

3031
01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:30,200
to consensus that makes sense. Again,

3032
01:47:30,200 --> 01:47:31,960
born in the advocacy space and the

3033
01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:33,840
setting policy space.

3034
01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:39,280
Um so, these are primarily Utah-based groups,

3035
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:41,800
some that are in the nonprofit space,

3036
01:47:41,800 --> 01:47:43,960
some that are in the business space,

3037
01:47:43,960 --> 01:47:46,360
but they

3038
01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:48,160
I I do want to give them credit cuz over

3039
01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:50,600
the last few years, as we've

3040
01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:53,560
as we negotiated with them,

3041
01:47:53,560 --> 01:47:55,480
they they've heard us constantly preach

3042
01:47:55,480 --> 01:47:57,200
partnership, one size fits all. And they

3043
01:47:57,200 --> 01:47:59,080
said, "Okay, well, then maybe instead of

3044
01:47:59,080 --> 01:48:01,200
pursuing state legislation this way,

3045
01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:03,440
what if we partner with you to figure

3046
01:48:03,440 --> 01:48:06,200
out some some good best practices from

3047
01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:08,440
the private sector perspective here?"

3048
01:48:08,440 --> 01:48:09,920
Now, the anxiousness we've always had

3049
01:48:09,920 --> 01:48:10,920
there is

3050
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:12,120
we don't want to put our seal of

3051
01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:14,560
approval on

3052
01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:16,240
Can we use Cameron City here? So, I'll

3053
01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:19,120
use you know, X entity's approach

3054
01:48:19,120 --> 01:48:21,600
because that may work for Ogden, but it

3055
01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:23,760
may not work for Salt Lake.

3056
01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:25,320
But, it may still be a best practice. It

3057
01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:26,920
just may not work for one or the other.

3058
01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:29,000
So, that's what has been an interesting

3059
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:32,080
request and our initial instinct was

3060
01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:34,000
spirit of partnership. But then, our

3061
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:36,760
second piece is this verbal So, what I'm

3062
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:38,120
hearing from the folks in the room and

3063
01:48:38,120 --> 01:48:39,280
welcome thoughts online again. We're

3064
01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:41,240
just looking for a first blush here cuz

3065
01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:42,200
we've told all these groups, like,

3066
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:43,680
"We'll get back to you." But as we're

3067
01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:46,720
laying out this summer plan, sounds like

3068
01:48:46,720 --> 01:48:48,160
maybe the best first step for us in the

3069
01:48:48,160 --> 01:48:50,320
alliance engagement side is to build out

3070
01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:52,160
our guardrails and say, "Yes, we'll

3071
01:48:52,160 --> 01:48:53,680
partner with you,

3072
01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:56,640
but under these conditions." Could I

3073
01:48:56,640 --> 01:48:58,080
Sorry.

3074
01:48:58,080 --> 01:48:59,200
The

3075
01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:00,520
I was looking like went back to the

3076
01:49:00,520 --> 01:49:02,200
What's our vision? What's our goal here?

3077
01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:04,160
And back to the statement that, you

3078
01:49:04,160 --> 01:49:06,560
know, partnership, not preemption, you

3079
01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:09,880
know, does it fit that mold when we're

3080
01:49:09,880 --> 01:49:11,480
when they're willing to support a

3081
01:49:11,480 --> 01:49:14,080
partnership? Good if if they have maybe

3082
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:16,240
some different uh

3083
01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:18,400
desires that don't fit that meet that,

3084
01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:19,960
We got to make sure that you know, it

3085
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:24,120
comes back to that portion of it and we got to refer to that instead of

3086
01:49:24,120 --> 01:49:27,320
getting diverted off the supply. I would

3087
01:49:27,320 --> 01:49:30,360
dare to that I I read through the memo

3088
01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:32,200
and I guess I've

3089
01:49:32,200 --> 01:49:34,200
done enough sessions

3090
01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:36,040
spent enough time from a board

3091
01:49:36,040 --> 01:49:38,840
perspective that after this session

3092
01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:39,840
um

3093
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:41,240
that I've developed enough scar tissue

3094
01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:43,960
that I I had an initial

3095
01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:44,920
reaction [clears throat] when I read

3096
01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:46,440
this stuff like

3097
01:49:46,440 --> 01:49:50,200
there are some of these entities um

3098
01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:55,680
that have spent years and years

3099
01:49:55,680 --> 01:49:57,680
to learning the league in particular

3100
01:49:57,680 --> 01:50:00,440
cities, you know, the bad cities.

3101
01:50:00,440 --> 01:50:04,000
And and I my initial gut reaction was

3102
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:05,680
I don't know. You need to show me how it

3103
01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:06,440
works.

3104
01:50:06,440 --> 01:50:08,240
Yeah. That what he means to explain.

3105
01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:09,240
Um

3106
01:50:09,240 --> 01:50:12,840
but then I but then, you know, better

3107
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:14,040
angels

3108
01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:18,360
um on the one shoulder said um

3109
01:50:18,360 --> 01:50:22,200
when when it when an entity seeks to

3110
01:50:22,200 --> 01:50:23,640
engage and whether they're seeking to

3111
01:50:23,640 --> 01:50:25,680
engage because you know, we frankly had

3112
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:27,680
a great session today.

3113
01:50:27,680 --> 01:50:28,240
Uh

3114
01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:30,040
lost in our message

3115
01:50:30,040 --> 01:50:32,360
uh working together has carried the day

3116
01:50:32,360 --> 01:50:34,560
more often than not of late.

3117
01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:36,760
Um or whether they're doing it because

3118
01:50:36,760 --> 01:50:39,120
they decided that's really where work

3119
01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:42,840
and policy is made. Um

3120
01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:45,040
I don't know. So, I I guess I've I've

3121
01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:45,800
been

3122
01:50:45,800 --> 01:50:47,000
studying that and thinking more about

3123
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:47,720
it.

3124
01:50:47,720 --> 01:50:49,880
I think there's there's some groups that

3125
01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:51,520
that's easier than others and I think

3126
01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:53,080
there are some topics that are easier

3127
01:50:53,080 --> 01:50:56,840
than others. Um I think we should

3128
01:50:56,840 --> 01:50:57,640
um

3129
01:50:57,640 --> 01:50:59,240
I think we should try, but I do think we

3130
01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:00,800
also need to just be cautious and I

3131
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:02,520
think we really really depend on the

3132
01:51:02,520 --> 01:51:04,040
league staff

3133
01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:07,520
to deploy your spidey sense. Um

3134
01:51:07,520 --> 01:51:10,120
and if it's if it's a group where we've

3135
01:51:10,120 --> 01:51:12,840
had a lot of historic animosity with our

3136
01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:14,240
membership,

3137
01:51:14,240 --> 01:51:15,680
then that's when where your spidey sense

3138
01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:18,000
maybe says, "Okay, let's let's run this

3139
01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:19,920
by a few folks or a few cities to make

3140
01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:21,520
sure that it's not going to get us

3141
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:23,520
crosswise with our membership."

3142
01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:25,360
Um if it's,

3143
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:27,480
you know, one of the universities where

3144
01:51:27,480 --> 01:51:28,720
you know, maybe they sometimes we've

3145
01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:30,720
disagreed, but but we're hitting it from

3146
01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:31,920
an academic standpoint, you know, your

3147
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:36,440
spidey sense doesn't go off in the ding, but I I just would urge that as we

3148
01:51:36,440 --> 01:51:38,040
consider this that like

3149
01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:40,720
high degree of spidey sense um

3150
01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:42,880
where it seems like we might end up with

3151
01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:44,440
some friction points.

3152
01:51:44,440 --> 01:51:46,800
>> like my question is do you run them

3153
01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:50,600
through Is it this? Is it this? Is it this? If not

3154
01:51:50,600 --> 01:51:52,520
then, but you have so much more context

3155
01:51:52,520 --> 01:51:54,000
than probably your average board member

3156
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:56,680
in terms of Is this a manipulative

3157
01:51:56,680 --> 01:51:59,240
strategy or is this an authentic

3158
01:51:59,240 --> 01:52:01,720
partnership app? And I suspect you'll

3159
01:52:01,720 --> 01:52:03,640
have both. Yeah, or are you setting us

3160
01:52:03,640 --> 01:52:05,280
up to fail

3161
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:07,120
somehow for the next session to tee up

3162
01:52:07,120 --> 01:52:09,320
what you want when when when Well, but

3163
01:52:09,320 --> 01:52:10,760
they wouldn't let us do the training or

3164
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:11,760
they didn't get the training that we

3165
01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:14,320
wanted, and so therefore we must We we

3166
01:52:14,320 --> 01:52:16,000
shall make them in a future legislation.

3167
01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:17,640
And that's that's where I started to

3168
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:19,000
worry. And I see

3169
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:19,880
I'm going to go to Mayor Shepherd and

3170
01:52:19,880 --> 01:52:23,150
then I'll come back to you, Zach. Sorry.

3171
01:52:23,160 --> 01:52:24,560
Well, thanks. Yeah, I mean, I agree with

3172
01:52:24,560 --> 01:52:27,600
you, Kate. There I it worries me a lot.

3173
01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:28,560
Um

3174
01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:31,000
my my initial sense was just absolutely

3175
01:52:31,000 --> 01:52:32,920
not. This just it isn't good. I think

3176
01:52:32,920 --> 01:52:34,200
there's some great opportunities where

3177
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:36,440
it does make sense, but we got to vet

3178
01:52:36,440 --> 01:52:38,840
them real well. We've got one of our

3179
01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:40,520
Well, [clears throat] we have a builder

3180
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:42,280
that sits on the

3181
01:52:42,280 --> 01:52:44,320
America's Housing Comeback

3182
01:52:44,320 --> 01:52:45,360
that

3183
01:52:45,360 --> 01:52:46,920
we thought, you know, I mean, it's just

3184
01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:48,040
a great fit. They represent the

3185
01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:49,640
builders. This is this is good, but they

3186
01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:52,680
very very much have a different agenda.

3187
01:52:52,680 --> 01:52:54,880
And it is even sitting there in not a

3188
01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:57,040
very collaborative

3189
01:52:57,040 --> 01:53:00,520
um mentality from their end. And so it

3190
01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:02,240
on face value it looks great, but as

3191
01:53:02,240 --> 01:53:03,280
soon as

3192
01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:05,000
things are said, it's it's very apparent

3193
01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:06,920
that they're not. And so I just have

3194
01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:11,240
some some serious guardrails up and some caution as we move forward with

3195
01:53:11,240 --> 01:53:14,390
that.

3196
01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:15,640
So, President Brechtel, I'm going to

3197
01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:17,240
summarize what I'm hearing both online

3198
01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:19,280
and in the room. Yeah, but it's not a

3199
01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:22,040
first step. Yeah. Yeah. And then Mayor

3200
01:53:22,040 --> 01:53:23,000
Elsey

3201
01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:24,000
We'll go here and then we'll go to Mayor

3202
01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:26,160
Elsey.

3203
01:53:26,160 --> 01:53:27,800
I'm in line with everything you just

3204
01:53:27,800 --> 01:53:30,000
said and and with what Mayor Shepherd

3205
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:31,960
just said as well. I'm thinking of a

3206
01:53:31,960 --> 01:53:33,720
couple of interactions that we've had

3207
01:53:33,720 --> 01:53:35,400
probably over the last decade where

3208
01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:38,280
we've had some groups with whom we met

3209
01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:43,160
regularly. We've discussed policy and we have what are maybe some informal

3210
01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:45,120
ground rules. And then as the

3211
01:53:45,120 --> 01:53:46,760
legislative session happens, there's

3212
01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:48,640
some bills run that go outside of the

3213
01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:50,200
context.

3214
01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:54,320
So, I think I think those guardrails um

3215
01:53:54,320 --> 01:53:56,880
identifying how the collaboration can

3216
01:53:56,880 --> 01:53:58,760
exist. And so long as it looks like

3217
01:53:58,760 --> 01:53:59,800
this,

3218
01:53:59,800 --> 01:54:01,480
you know, and and we're comfortable with

3219
01:54:01,480 --> 01:54:02,400
it,

3220
01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:04,000
then I think I'm okay with it. But, if

3221
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:07,000
we start to see the the inner and maybe

3222
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:10,200
as as Kate was describing it, the

3223
01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:14,120
looks like the the Mayor Palmer said, the fellowship

3224
01:54:14,120 --> 01:54:16,600
seems to be falling apart, you know,

3225
01:54:16,600 --> 01:54:18,360
then I think we can end it. But, I'm

3226
01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:21,040
always for a collaboration. I'm

3227
01:54:21,040 --> 01:54:22,840
certainly Pollyanna when I look at that

3228
01:54:22,840 --> 01:54:25,720
kind of stuff, but I'm leery, too. So,

3229
01:54:25,720 --> 01:54:27,640
if if we can identify the guardrails and

3230
01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:29,520
we can vet the issues and and create the

3231
01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:31,600
relationship and stay within it, great.

3232
01:54:31,600 --> 01:54:33,280
But, if it goes around it, I think

3233
01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:35,160
having an exit strategy

3234
01:54:35,160 --> 01:54:36,840
could be helpful.

3235
01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:37,800
It's not a great way to enter

3236
01:54:37,800 --> 01:54:40,910
relationships.

3237
01:54:40,920 --> 01:54:44,470
Mayor Elsey came up.

3238
01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:45,720
Right, I thought it was anyway. I'm on

3239
01:54:45,720 --> 01:54:47,000
the

3240
01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:48,200
Mayor Brechtel, you have the garden?

3241
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:50,160
Yeah. I mean, I think

3242
01:54:50,160 --> 01:54:51,960
we kind of have to accept it or else I

3243
01:54:51,960 --> 01:54:53,320
think we're setting ourselves up for

3244
01:54:53,320 --> 01:54:55,160
more conversation later.

3245
01:54:55,160 --> 01:54:56,600
I think they'll probably I suspect

3246
01:54:56,600 --> 01:54:58,800
there'll be a mix of success and

3247
01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:01,400
failure. And hence the bring up. Yeah, I

3248
01:55:01,400 --> 01:55:03,200
mean But, yeah.

3249
01:55:03,200 --> 01:55:04,400
I mean, I actually think it could go

3250
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:05,560
both and I

3251
01:55:05,560 --> 01:55:07,320
I'm imagining

3252
01:55:07,320 --> 01:55:08,960
some of the

3253
01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:10,640
groups here mentioning

3254
01:55:10,640 --> 01:55:12,360
I would ask that the staff be have that

3255
01:55:12,360 --> 01:55:13,960
space and not just about the group but

3256
01:55:13,960 --> 01:55:16,080
also about the the interest in the issue

3257
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:17,800
that group represents. Yeah.

3258
01:55:17,800 --> 01:55:19,000
We're just starting to see more and more

3259
01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:20,840
pressure around

3260
01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:22,520
um from the public

3261
01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:24,160
uh like these workarounds and these side

3262
01:55:24,160 --> 01:55:25,400
deals things.

3263
01:55:25,400 --> 01:55:26,920
Well, you know

3264
01:55:26,920 --> 01:55:28,560
we'll be on the lookout for if we're not

3265
01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:30,720
make ourselves look like we're

3266
01:55:30,720 --> 01:55:32,640
opening up these new avenues that are

3267
01:55:32,640 --> 01:55:35,830
non-transparent.

3268
01:55:35,840 --> 01:55:38,760
Okay, I think this is a perfect summary.

3269
01:55:38,760 --> 01:55:39,880
I mean we wanted to thank you. That's

3270
01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:41,800
helpful. There is a chat.

3271
01:55:41,800 --> 01:55:43,840
Oh.

3272
01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:46,600
That's also a good summary for me.

3273
01:55:46,600 --> 01:55:47,560
Okay.

3274
01:55:47,560 --> 01:55:48,680
Um

3275
01:55:48,680 --> 01:55:50,040
2 minutes. [clears throat] We are to

3276
01:55:50,040 --> 01:55:51,520
Which of Which of the things do you want

3277
01:55:51,520 --> 01:55:53,000
to hit in

3278
01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:54,560
Uh yeah, can you read this because we

3279
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:57,040
can go through these pretty quickly. Um

3280
01:55:57,040 --> 01:55:59,720
Uh LPC plan. Um we've got some LPCs

3281
01:55:59,720 --> 01:56:01,400
coming up this year. Uh first one on

3282
01:56:01,400 --> 01:56:03,960
June 1st Uh we will not see you again

3283
01:56:03,960 --> 01:56:07,720
until August 24th is the plan. Um

3284
01:56:07,720 --> 01:56:09,720
For LPC

3285
01:56:09,720 --> 01:56:12,520
Uh September 21st uh we'll have an LPC

3286
01:56:12,520 --> 01:56:14,480
and a board meeting that day. October

3287
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:16,720
19th uh will be a week before the annual

3288
01:56:16,720 --> 01:56:18,360
conference where we will also have board

3289
01:56:18,360 --> 01:56:20,120
meeting. That's the week of interim.

3290
01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:21,840
November 16th and then we've done this

3291
01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:23,240
the last couple of years. We haven't had

3292
01:56:23,240 --> 01:56:25,760
one in December but we have had an LPC

3293
01:56:25,760 --> 01:56:29,000
early in January. And so we'll have one

3294
01:56:29,000 --> 01:56:31,600
uh plan is January 11th which is one

3295
01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:33,880
week before the session begins. Um if

3296
01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:36,280
anyone's keeping track that will be

3297
01:56:36,280 --> 01:56:38,120
uh 8 months from tomorrow is the start

3298
01:56:38,120 --> 01:56:43,070
of session.

3299
01:56:43,080 --> 01:56:44,840
You're welcome.

3300
01:56:44,840 --> 01:56:46,480
Which means we have a lot of time to do

3301
01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:48,880
a lot of things. Um so that is the LPC

3302
01:56:48,880 --> 01:56:51,160
plan. Um any questions, comments,

3303
01:56:51,160 --> 01:56:53,560
concerns with that?

3304
01:56:53,560 --> 01:56:57,390
Is anyone hoping for more LPCs?

3305
01:56:57,400 --> 01:56:59,760
All right. Uh let's get to next one. Uh

3306
01:56:59,760 --> 01:57:01,600
next thing we've got um

3307
01:57:01,600 --> 01:57:03,400
we have some interim advisory groups.

3308
01:57:03,400 --> 01:57:05,440
They're groups that we know we need now

3309
01:57:05,440 --> 01:57:07,880
and groups we'll likely need later. Uh

3310
01:57:07,880 --> 01:57:08,600
we've already talked about the

3311
01:57:08,600 --> 01:57:10,760
homelessness one. Uh we will have a

3312
01:57:10,760 --> 01:57:12,720
housing advisory group and we'll present

3313
01:57:12,720 --> 01:57:15,080
these at LPC in a couple of weeks.

3314
01:57:15,080 --> 01:57:16,320
Housing advisory group is kind of

3315
01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:19,560
continued from last year. Uh we need to

3316
01:57:19,560 --> 01:57:21,320
Sorry, that was That's all right.

3317
01:57:21,320 --> 01:57:22,960
Everybody thinks we're now lying to us

3318
01:57:22,960 --> 01:57:25,040
for this. Uh we know we need to do work

3319
01:57:25,040 --> 01:57:27,480
on annexation this year. Uh Jared's

3320
01:57:27,480 --> 01:57:29,560
super excited about that one. He said,

3321
01:57:29,560 --> 01:57:31,240
"Please put annexations on here whatever

3322
01:57:31,240 --> 01:57:32,400
else you do."

3323
01:57:32,400 --> 01:57:34,520
Um we have continued discussions around

3324
01:57:34,520 --> 01:57:36,360
property tax. And then as we already

3325
01:57:36,360 --> 01:57:37,800
discussed, there's going to be a lot of

3326
01:57:37,800 --> 01:57:41,960
work around economic development this year. Last year we had an economic

3327
01:57:41,960 --> 01:57:43,240
development group that helped us with

3328
01:57:43,240 --> 01:57:45,480
top and several other things. This is a

3329
01:57:45,480 --> 01:57:47,800
continuation of that. Uh groups we'll

3330
01:57:47,800 --> 01:57:50,080
likely need later. Um there's a lot of

3331
01:57:50,080 --> 01:57:51,960
discussion around PIDs. We're having a

3332
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:53,480
lot of discussions with legislators and

3333
01:57:53,480 --> 01:57:54,880
auditors.

3334
01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:56,280
And some of these really fall in this

3335
01:57:56,280 --> 01:57:57,800
group cuz we know we're going to need to

3336
01:57:57,800 --> 01:57:59,800
talk about it. We also don't want to get

3337
01:57:59,800 --> 01:58:01,200
a group together just for the sake of

3338
01:58:01,200 --> 01:58:02,920
talking. Um

3339
01:58:02,920 --> 01:58:04,080
we don't know what we're going to have

3340
01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:06,960
to do with PIDs yet, but we anticipate

3341
01:58:06,960 --> 01:58:08,120
that we will need to have some

3342
01:58:08,120 --> 01:58:10,480
discussions around PIDs. So,

3343
01:58:10,480 --> 01:58:12,040
hold on this one. At some point we'll

3344
01:58:12,040 --> 01:58:14,320
likely have a big working group. So, if

3345
01:58:14,320 --> 01:58:16,520
somebody uh looks at this list and says

3346
01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:19,360
like, "Ooh, pick me, pick me." And then

3347
01:58:19,360 --> 01:58:20,800
they

3348
01:58:20,800 --> 01:58:22,840
Annexations for $200, Alex.

3349
01:58:22,840 --> 01:58:24,480
I might contact them.

3350
01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:26,800
We will ask for Well, we will check in

3351
01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:28,680
with board members, but we'll ask at LPC

3352
01:58:28,680 --> 01:58:31,120
in a couple of weeks uh for for who is

3353
01:58:31,120 --> 01:58:33,080
interested in these. And then we will

3354
01:58:33,080 --> 01:58:34,320
make sure that if we don't have board

3355
01:58:34,320 --> 01:58:35,680
members on all of them as we discussed

3356
01:58:35,680 --> 01:58:37,760
earlier, then we will make sure some of

3357
01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:39,600
you get involved in all of them. Let me

3358
01:58:39,600 --> 01:58:40,920
translate that for you all, board

3359
01:58:40,920 --> 01:58:42,240
members.

3360
01:58:42,240 --> 01:58:44,160
We want board members to serve on these

3361
01:58:44,160 --> 01:58:46,880
groups. So,

3362
01:58:46,880 --> 01:58:48,640
pick your favorite or you'll get

3363
01:58:48,640 --> 01:58:50,000
volunteered.

3364
01:58:50,000 --> 01:58:52,000
You volunteer.

3365
01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:54,840
Or be volunteering for one.

3366
01:58:54,840 --> 01:58:57,280
So I guess for the the answer um

3367
01:58:57,280 --> 01:58:59,480
Mayor President Bradshaw, uh just reach

3368
01:58:59,480 --> 01:59:00,960
out to me. Shoot me a text, shoot me an

3369
01:59:00,960 --> 01:59:02,200
email if you want to hit one of these

3370
01:59:02,200 --> 01:59:04,040
topics. I'll make sure you're on there.

3371
01:59:04,040 --> 01:59:05,520
Would it be helpful if we give you one

3372
01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:07,400
or two because you don't want all of us

3373
01:59:07,400 --> 01:59:09,000
to pick the glitzy glamorous

3374
01:59:09,000 --> 01:59:10,360
>> Look, I know everyone wants to ask

3375
01:59:10,360 --> 01:59:12,640
questions, but we do need people on the

3376
01:59:12,640 --> 01:59:14,240
other ones. Yeah, so let me know which

3377
01:59:14,240 --> 01:59:16,360
ones you're interested in. Um we'll talk

3378
01:59:16,360 --> 01:59:17,920
about those.

3379
01:59:17,920 --> 01:59:19,560
The [laughter] Amicus one or the Amicus

3380
01:59:19,560 --> 01:59:21,720
one? Anyway, impact fees, we know

3381
01:59:21,720 --> 01:59:23,560
there's the audit going on. I had a

3382
01:59:23,560 --> 01:59:25,880
discussion with uh Senator Muslima last

3383
01:59:25,880 --> 01:59:27,880
week. Um he's the one who ran the bill

3384
01:59:27,880 --> 01:59:29,880
last year.

3385
01:59:29,880 --> 01:59:31,360
To his credit, he's waiting to see what

3386
01:59:31,360 --> 01:59:32,760
the OLA going to say. So we're not doing

3387
01:59:32,760 --> 01:59:34,560
multiple tracks on this one. The audit

3388
01:59:34,560 --> 01:59:37,600
will likely be late in the interim. I'm

3389
01:59:37,600 --> 01:59:39,800
guessing we'll see it in November. Um

3390
01:59:39,800 --> 01:59:40,880
that's the way the audits have gone the

3391
01:59:40,880 --> 01:59:43,520
last couple of years. Um so we will

3392
01:59:43,520 --> 01:59:45,000
definitely need a work group on that

3393
01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:46,880
one, an advisory group. But that one's

3394
01:59:46,880 --> 01:59:48,080
going to spin up quickly and it's going

3395
01:59:48,080 --> 01:59:50,120
to spin up near the end of interim. Um

3396
01:59:50,120 --> 01:59:51,400
we just won't have anything to respond

3397
01:59:51,400 --> 01:59:53,240
to until then. And anything we say

3398
01:59:53,240 --> 01:59:56,680
before that audit comes out is just um

3399
01:59:56,680 --> 01:59:58,360
is just half-baked. So we need to see

3400
01:59:58,360 --> 01:59:59,680
what they're going to come up with that.

3401
01:59:59,680 --> 02:00:01,120
Water, there are a lot of things out in

3402
02:00:01,120 --> 02:00:02,320
the water space, but we don't have

3403
02:00:02,320 --> 02:00:04,120
anything that is specific enough yet to

3404
02:00:04,120 --> 02:00:05,920
say, "Let's get a group to talk about

3405
02:00:05,920 --> 02:00:08,040
this." And billboards, uh we're going to

3406
02:00:08,040 --> 02:00:09,640
make a specific ask on this one at the

3407
02:00:09,640 --> 02:00:12,240
June LPC. Uh we need to know who's got

3408
02:00:12,240 --> 02:00:14,360
big work going on on some thoroughfares

3409
02:00:14,360 --> 02:00:15,720
and who's likely to have billboards

3410
02:00:15,720 --> 02:00:18,560
reallocated or reallocated relocated. I

3411
02:00:18,560 --> 02:00:21,360
like flip somewhere in that one. But

3412
02:00:21,360 --> 02:00:22,720
that will help us know what that group

3413
02:00:22,720 --> 02:00:25,400
should look like. So at the June LPC, if

3414
02:00:25,400 --> 02:00:26,440
you don't let me know today, that's

3415
02:00:26,440 --> 02:00:28,720
fine. Um we'll say these groups on the

3416
02:00:28,720 --> 02:00:29,920
left we definitely are going to need

3417
02:00:29,920 --> 02:00:32,240
work on. Who would like to be involved?

3418
02:00:32,240 --> 02:00:34,640
These groups on the right are coming, so

3419
02:00:34,640 --> 02:00:36,000
stay tuned if you're really excited

3420
02:00:36,000 --> 02:00:38,040
about them, but uh these are the groups

3421
02:00:38,040 --> 02:00:40,280
that we are anticipating this year. And

3422
02:00:40,280 --> 02:00:42,200
as we talked about earlier, along with

3423
02:00:42,200 --> 02:00:44,680
whatever else shows up. Um Nick, bring

3424
02:00:44,680 --> 02:00:46,960
up the next slide. We could put a poll

3425
02:00:46,960 --> 02:00:48,480
out to see if anyone's interested in

3426
02:00:48,480 --> 02:00:51,280
that. Um this we can really skip. This

3427
02:00:51,280 --> 02:00:52,360
is pretty much Did you get that one? I

3428
02:00:52,360 --> 02:00:54,760
did. That was quick. Um on the horizon

3429
02:00:54,760 --> 02:00:55,960
for this year, everything we're

3430
02:00:55,960 --> 02:00:59,000
expecting um and more. So we can kind of

3431
02:00:59,000 --> 02:01:01,120
jump this slide in interest of time. Um

3432
02:01:01,120 --> 02:01:03,200
here's our interim prioritization plan

3433
02:01:03,200 --> 02:01:05,120
to figure out what we want to prioritize

3434
02:01:05,120 --> 02:01:08,160
uh this time. Um I have zero here. We've

3435
02:01:08,160 --> 02:01:10,040
already heard some impact input with

3436
02:01:10,040 --> 02:01:12,000
that list since the end of session.

3437
02:01:12,000 --> 02:01:13,640
We've asked different meetings about

3438
02:01:13,640 --> 02:01:15,680
people that have input. Um so that's

3439
02:01:15,680 --> 02:01:19,000
zero. When you say we have some ideas,

3440
02:01:19,000 --> 02:01:22,360
we have one city gave us 56 um

3441
02:01:22,360 --> 02:01:25,120
potential ideas. And let's just say

3442
02:01:25,120 --> 02:01:27,040
Jerry and I came up with dozens from the

3443
02:01:27,040 --> 02:01:30,240
city attorneys. The

3444
02:01:30,240 --> 02:01:31,960
advisory group has just laid out like

3445
02:01:31,960 --> 02:01:34,080
we've already started vetting them which

3446
02:01:34,080 --> 02:01:35,560
ones need work groups and which ones are

3447
02:01:35,560 --> 02:01:37,920
just technical fixes that we can insert

3448
02:01:37,920 --> 02:01:39,400
into other bills. So it's really they're

3449
02:01:39,400 --> 02:01:41,360
sort of just been kind of ad hoc asks at

3450
02:01:41,360 --> 02:01:43,120
this point. We want to get a little bit

3451
02:01:43,120 --> 02:01:45,360
more systematized on this one. So plan

3452
02:01:45,360 --> 02:01:46,840
is we're going to send out an open-ended

3453
02:01:46,840 --> 02:01:48,800
survey on Friday back just soliciting

3454
02:01:48,800 --> 02:01:50,800
ideas. We have done this several times

3455
02:01:50,800 --> 02:01:52,280
at several conferences, but we know not

3456
02:01:52,280 --> 02:01:53,600
everyone is in that work room when we go

3457
02:01:53,600 --> 02:01:55,400
to a conference. So this is our effort

3458
02:01:55,400 --> 02:01:57,480
to ask it a little more broadly, you

3459
02:01:57,480 --> 02:01:58,920
know, what is your city prioritizing?

3460
02:01:58,920 --> 02:02:00,320
What are your big ideas this year? What

3461
02:02:00,320 --> 02:02:02,000
are the things we need to look at? We'll

3462
02:02:02,000 --> 02:02:04,760
then come to the June LPC and ask for a

3463
02:02:04,760 --> 02:02:06,160
little prioritization around that. We'll

3464
02:02:06,160 --> 02:02:07,960
probably post a slide. Of course we're

3465
02:02:07,960 --> 02:02:09,000
going to post a slide. Why did I say

3466
02:02:09,000 --> 02:02:11,400
probably? Um and ask for some additional

3467
02:02:11,400 --> 02:02:12,720
discussion around those ideas that'll

3468
02:02:12,720 --> 02:02:14,240
help us prioritize where some things are

3469
02:02:14,240 --> 02:02:17,240
at. After that June LPC, we're then

3470
02:02:17,240 --> 02:02:19,520
going to send out a more specific survey

3471
02:02:19,520 --> 02:02:22,800
um to the LPC members looking for

3472
02:02:22,800 --> 02:02:24,520
additional prioritization or if there's

3473
02:02:24,520 --> 02:02:26,040
anything to work.

3474
02:02:26,040 --> 02:02:27,640
Cuz again, we we can't do everything all

3475
02:02:27,640 --> 02:02:30,320
the time even though we try really, hard. So this is helping us

3476
02:02:30,320 --> 02:02:32,000
prioritize where those things are at.

3477
02:02:32,000 --> 02:02:33,640
And then we will come back in a month to

3478
02:02:33,640 --> 02:02:35,800
this board uh which will be 3 weeks

3479
02:02:35,800 --> 02:02:37,520
after that LPC and say, here's what

3480
02:02:37,520 --> 02:02:39,280
we've learned. Here's what we've heard.

3481
02:02:39,280 --> 02:02:40,640
Here's where we think the priorities

3482
02:02:40,640 --> 02:02:41,680
are.

3483
02:02:41,680 --> 02:02:43,040
Tell us if this looks good or if we're

3484
02:02:43,040 --> 02:02:44,320
off somewhere.

3485
02:02:44,320 --> 02:02:46,760
And then we'll be rocking and rolling on

3486
02:02:46,760 --> 02:02:48,800
advice and groups and

3487
02:02:48,800 --> 02:02:49,960
tip groups and everything else that

3488
02:02:49,960 --> 02:02:51,920
we've got going on throughout the intro.

3489
02:02:51,920 --> 02:02:53,960
So this is our plan with that big

3490
02:02:53,960 --> 02:02:55,800
asterisk that know that's in a vacuum.

3491
02:02:55,800 --> 02:02:57,680
Let's say your obviously gets a little

3492
02:02:57,680 --> 02:03:01,000
bit of say what gets prioritized.

3493
02:03:01,000 --> 02:03:03,240
So any questions, concerns, comments on

3494
02:03:03,240 --> 02:03:08,350
this one, anything that we're missing?

3495
02:03:08,360 --> 02:03:10,200
That's perfect.

3496
02:03:10,200 --> 02:03:11,120
And [clears throat] we really shouldn't

3497
02:03:11,120 --> 02:03:16,430
change you.

3498
02:03:16,440 --> 02:03:20,280
Okay. So we're not asking for a vote on this prioritization but it sounds

3499
02:03:20,280 --> 02:03:22,280
like everybody's going to vote yes.

3500
02:03:22,280 --> 02:03:24,840
So thank you for that. You'll note at

3501
02:03:24,840 --> 02:03:26,400
the end of advocacy and thank you Justin

3502
02:03:26,400 --> 02:03:28,520
for the presentation. One of your

3503
02:03:28,520 --> 02:03:30,320
strategic objectives is maximize

3504
02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:32,080
political capital. The capital and over

3505
02:03:32,080 --> 02:03:34,080
the last two months these are the issues

3506
02:03:34,080 --> 02:03:36,080
we've still been heavily involved in.

3507
02:03:36,080 --> 02:03:37,840
Ogden Valley City and Spring Lake City

3508
02:03:37,840 --> 02:03:40,000
for example had issues trying to become

3509
02:03:40,000 --> 02:03:41,760
taxing entities. We were able to at

3510
02:03:41,760 --> 02:03:43,880
least address the issue

3511
02:03:43,880 --> 02:03:46,400
on that one. We plan to gather all the

3512
02:03:46,400 --> 02:03:48,280
information from the impact schedules

3513
02:03:48,280 --> 02:03:49,720
and cities that are considering property

3514
02:03:49,720 --> 02:03:52,560
tax to bring that

3515
02:03:52,560 --> 02:03:54,640
the board in in June and then also

3516
02:03:54,640 --> 02:03:56,520
potentially the legislative leadership

3517
02:03:56,520 --> 02:03:58,520
so they can understand the

3518
02:03:58,520 --> 02:03:59,920
one that cities are following the new

3519
02:03:59,920 --> 02:04:02,760
process that we agreed to follow.

3520
02:04:02,760 --> 02:04:04,360
And that

3521
02:04:04,360 --> 02:04:05,640
here are the reasons why cities are

3522
02:04:05,640 --> 02:04:08,040
considering property tax increases. To

3523
02:04:08,040 --> 02:04:10,600
date per the survey that we are

3524
02:04:10,600 --> 02:04:12,440
gathering from our members, we know of

3525
02:04:12,440 --> 02:04:15,160
at least 50 cities that have initiated

3526
02:04:15,160 --> 02:04:17,000
the taxation process. We expect that

3527
02:04:17,000 --> 02:04:18,880
number to be bigger

3528
02:04:18,880 --> 02:04:21,280
when it's all said and done.

3529
02:04:21,280 --> 02:04:23,600
We also are getting a lot of pushback

3530
02:04:23,600 --> 02:04:24,840
from

3531
02:04:24,840 --> 02:04:27,040
different stakeholders around city fees.

3532
02:04:27,040 --> 02:04:28,360
That's we spent a lot of time the last

3533
02:04:28,360 --> 02:04:30,400
few weeks not just impact fees but fees

3534
02:04:30,400 --> 02:04:31,880
in general.

3535
02:04:31,880 --> 02:04:33,360
And then you'll notice in the executive

3536
02:04:33,360 --> 02:04:34,760
director reporting references national

3537
02:04:34,760 --> 02:04:37,960
trends on property tax. Jared and Alexa

3538
02:04:37,960 --> 02:04:40,720
attended a national webinar last week

3539
02:04:40,720 --> 02:04:42,600
and it's really scary to look at what's

3540
02:04:42,600 --> 02:04:44,920
happening in Ohio and Georgia. Alexa and

3541
02:04:44,920 --> 02:04:46,160
Jared are nodding their heads to this at

3542
02:04:46,160 --> 02:04:47,240
a high.

3543
02:04:47,240 --> 02:04:48,200
If you're going to have a ballot

3544
02:04:48,200 --> 02:04:50,840
proposition in Ohio, right Alexa? That

3545
02:04:50,840 --> 02:04:53,360
would repeal all property taxes with no

3546
02:04:53,360 --> 02:04:55,840
plan on how to replace that revenue.

3547
02:04:55,840 --> 02:04:56,800
All right?

3548
02:04:56,800 --> 02:04:59,880
Um Georgia and Florida are both having

3549
02:04:59,880 --> 02:05:01,560
big battle on the silver property tax.

3550
02:05:01,560 --> 02:05:02,800
So

3551
02:05:02,800 --> 02:05:04,480
we're trying to learn from what the

3552
02:05:04,480 --> 02:05:05,600
different states and leagues are doing

3553
02:05:05,600 --> 02:05:07,520
there and then use it here and I think

3554
02:05:07,520 --> 02:05:08,960
we're ahead of the game because the

3555
02:05:08,960 --> 02:05:11,760
video series we've put together

3556
02:05:11,760 --> 02:05:13,520
to legislators.

3557
02:05:13,520 --> 02:05:15,680
Um it mentions the upcoming membership

3558
02:05:15,680 --> 02:05:18,520
outreach. Um Mayor Peterson, you and I

3559
02:05:18,520 --> 02:05:20,400
still you and I will connect this week

3560
02:05:20,400 --> 02:05:21,640
to get something on the calendar in

3561
02:05:21,640 --> 02:05:24,160
Cache Valley. Um I also now that you

3562
02:05:24,160 --> 02:05:25,560
pointed me to the economic development

3563
02:05:25,560 --> 02:05:27,480
group, plan to reach out to our members

3564
02:05:27,480 --> 02:05:29,800
in Box Elder County um to try to

3565
02:05:29,800 --> 02:05:31,840
facilitate some conversations up there

3566
02:05:31,840 --> 02:05:33,360
so they can be part of the economic

3567
02:05:33,360 --> 02:05:35,200
development conversation. Yeah, the

3568
02:05:35,200 --> 02:05:37,280
capital and then just the family leave

3569
02:05:37,280 --> 02:05:39,840
update on RM. My wife wanted to say

3570
02:05:39,840 --> 02:05:41,560
thank you to the board for the family

3571
02:05:41,560 --> 02:05:45,080
leave policy. Um we have as a reminder 6

3572
02:05:45,080 --> 02:05:47,600
weeks of paid and 6 weeks of unpaid

3573
02:05:47,600 --> 02:05:49,760
family leave. At this point I've used

3574
02:05:49,760 --> 02:05:52,480
half of the paid family leave. I used

3575
02:05:52,480 --> 02:05:54,600
that after the session and then

3576
02:05:54,600 --> 02:05:56,880
as we got into conference season, I was

3577
02:05:56,880 --> 02:05:59,680
back at it but plan to use the remaining

3578
02:05:59,680 --> 02:06:02,280
paid family leave time in the summer and

3579
02:06:02,280 --> 02:06:04,560
so my wife wanted to say thanks.

3580
02:06:04,560 --> 02:06:08,240
We are grateful to Rachel for

3581
02:06:08,240 --> 02:06:09,320
the fact that she's willing to be

3582
02:06:09,320 --> 02:06:12,280
flexible with that.

3583
02:06:12,280 --> 02:06:13,280
Um

3584
02:06:13,280 --> 02:06:14,680
I think I should speak for all the board

3585
02:06:14,680 --> 02:06:16,120
when we say that we expect you to take

3586
02:06:16,120 --> 02:06:17,480
the others.

3587
02:06:17,480 --> 02:06:19,800
Um and also expressing a serious

3588
02:06:19,800 --> 02:06:20,760
disappointment that there are no

3589
02:06:20,760 --> 02:06:23,280
pictures of baby Brynnin that you have

3590
02:06:23,280 --> 02:06:25,280
brought for this meeting. I hope you

3591
02:06:25,280 --> 02:06:28,710
will remedy that.

3592
02:06:28,720 --> 02:06:32,960
Duly noted.

3593
02:06:32,960 --> 02:06:36,160
Uh any anything else you want to Oh,

3594
02:06:36,160 --> 02:06:37,560
Carson, sorry. Carson asked me to bring

3595
02:06:37,560 --> 02:06:39,560
up one more thing as part of the budget

3596
02:06:39,560 --> 02:06:40,160
uh

3597
02:06:40,160 --> 02:06:41,880
research plan. This is related to

3598
02:06:41,880 --> 02:06:44,320
property tax. One of the key themes that

3599
02:06:44,320 --> 02:06:46,160
that's not surprising anybody is that

3600
02:06:46,160 --> 02:06:47,440
cities are considering property tax

3601
02:06:47,440 --> 02:06:49,400
increases because of the increased cost

3602
02:06:49,400 --> 02:06:50,200
of

3603
02:06:50,200 --> 02:06:51,880
police, increased cost of roads,

3604
02:06:51,880 --> 02:06:53,680
increased cost of everything city

3605
02:06:53,680 --> 02:06:56,320
related. So, that spurred a discussion

3606
02:06:56,320 --> 02:06:57,720
internally

3607
02:06:57,720 --> 02:07:00,040
doing a research project of just the

3608
02:07:00,040 --> 02:07:01,640
cost of the city and showing how the

3609
02:07:01,640 --> 02:07:03,640
cost of the city has gone up over time.

3610
02:07:03,640 --> 02:07:05,800
So, that's part of the

3611
02:07:05,800 --> 02:07:08,200
budget for next year is once we get past

3612
02:07:08,200 --> 02:07:10,680
this property tax phase, expanding into

3613
02:07:10,680 --> 02:07:11,920
that broader cost of the city

3614
02:07:11,920 --> 02:07:13,960
conversation. So, Carson wanted me to

3615
02:07:13,960 --> 02:07:15,520
bring that up as part of the tentative

3616
02:07:15,520 --> 02:07:17,440
budget piece.

3617
02:07:17,440 --> 02:07:18,880
Um other than that, thank you everybody

3618
02:07:18,880 --> 02:07:20,480
for making time today to join us in

3619
02:07:20,480 --> 02:07:22,080
person and online and thank you for

3620
02:07:22,080 --> 02:07:24,080
hosting us next month. I'm with 808 LPC,

3621
02:07:24,080 --> 02:07:25,120
which I have in.

3622
02:07:25,120 --> 02:07:26,760
Thank you, everyone. Thanks for being

3623
02:07:26,760 --> 02:07:27,840
indulgent to

3624
02:07:27,840 --> 02:07:29,560
spending an additional

3625
02:07:29,560 --> 02:07:32,560
few minutes. Um with that, uh

3626
02:07:32,560 --> 02:07:37,350
any other business we need to consider?

3627
02:07:37,360 --> 02:07:39,400
If not, I will entertain a motion to

3628
02:07:39,400 --> 02:07:40,440
adjourn.

3629
02:07:40,440 --> 02:07:42,560
Second.

3630
02:07:42,560 --> 02:07:44,898
That was like a whole lot.

3631
02:07:44,898 --> 02:07:45,200
>> [laughter]

3632
02:07:45,200 --> 02:07:46,320
>> Did

3633
02:07:46,320 --> 02:07:49,710
you get any other comments from Johnny?

3634
02:07:49,720 --> 02:07:53,120
Uh All in favor All in favor of of

3635
02:07:53,120 --> 02:07:55,120
adjourning the CPI. All right.

3636
02:07:55,120 --> 02:07:57,560
I said all.