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Welcome to Bountiful for those of you

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that are online, you're you're missing

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out. Um

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on a on a really great visit to the city

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of Bountiful.

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just to give you I I don't want to take

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too much time cuz we're starting just a

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little bit late while we were figuring

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out some technical issues. Uh

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Bountiful uh was founded by Peregrine

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Sessions. So, the mountains that you see

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behind our city hall are known as the

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Sessions Mountains. And one of our

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really cool new mountain bike trails is

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the Peregrine Trail. Um Forest Service

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thought we should spell it like the

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bird, we thought we should spell it like

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Peregrine cuz parents for some reason

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spelled it creatively in a very Utah

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fashion. We had a good time.

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>> Definitely South of Utah County.

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>> Um

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Yeah. Very very ahead of his time. Uh

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but he's our founder. He uh moved his

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cattle just a little bit further north

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for uh better watering after arriving in

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the Salt Lake Valley. So, we claim to be

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the second oldest city

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uh in the state. Um Mayor Tran is not

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with us today. I know that her city

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likes to make that claim, but she's

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wrong and she's not here.

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>> [laughter]

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>> Just let the record reflect that um

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Bountiful

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is the second oldest city after our

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friends in in Salt Lake. Um

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population of about 45,000. [snorts]

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Um some of the uh things that we are um

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working on and are proud of is of course

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as I mentioned our our trail system and

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our trail master plan. We have three new

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trails that will start construction this

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summer.

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I have taken uh Councilor Turpin and of

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course uh Mayor Troy Walker, great for

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serving as a great learning opportunity for us that

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they bring our trails. Anyone who would

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like to, I'm always happy to show off

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what we're doing here.

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Um on our trail system.

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>> [snorts]

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>> Uh

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we uh are a a municipal power system

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city. Some of you share that in common

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with us. So, that's one of our unique

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features as well. And

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other things that we are working on is a

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whole [snorts] host of summer festivals.

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I know like many of you, there's a lot

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of 250 events. Hopefully you noticed our

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250 banners because I think cities do a

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great job of borrowing from each other.

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We noticed Santa Clara had cool banners

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from their city hall, so um we thought

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it would be a great idea to do something similar

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>> uh here in Downtown as well. So,

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welcome. I hope you enjoy part of your

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afternoon here with us. And of course,

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it would not be a board meeting that I

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chaired if we did not start with a would

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you rather. Um I hope you are all

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prepared to open Slido. It's also not a

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board meeting if we do not begin with

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opening Slido so that we can do a poll.

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because America 250 has been so on my

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mind uh this this summer with planning

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and with events,

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what I really want to know from you is

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for the perfect America 250 summertime

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dessert, would you rather a classic

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rocket popsicle

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a slice of apple pie?

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I'm I you know, I'm making no

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determinations about whether they're

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paired with ice cream or with whipped

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cream or

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» [snorts]

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» Where's hot fudge sundae?

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» Mayor Burton, when what

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>> Short post, she can put that on the

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Slido.

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>> Is it all in here?

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>> That may be a while. I'm not

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in the line.

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» I don't vote yet. Speaking of like

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starting to read all of them.

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>> You know, in the middle

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Okay, some of some of

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did not enjoy Rocket Popsicles the same

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way I did as a child.

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Now I know where the 20% of my people

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Oh, 24.

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All right, we'll give that just a minute

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to finish. Hopefully this will help

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guide whatever decisions you are making

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about what you're serving at your July

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5th potluck in your neighborhood.

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Um this will now return to our regular

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agenda. Oh, wait. Sorry, we have one

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really important thing we have to do.

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It is the birthday of our first vice

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president, Councilmember Krystal.

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So she is spending her birthday not in

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Santa Clara, but up in Santa Barbara.

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Does anyone want to make a motion

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to sing her happy birthday?

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>> I already have a motion. I already have

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a second.

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>> No, I heard a motion and I heard a

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second. All in favor, aye.

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>> Aye.

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>> Okay, we're doing it.

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Okay, ready?

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>> Happy birthday to you.

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Happy birthday to [singing] you. Happy

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birthday, Krystal.

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>> Happy birthday to you.

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>> It's great that you're not legally

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allowed to hold public office.

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Okay, now we'll return to our agenda.

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Has the board had an opportunity to

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review the minutes

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uh from our May 18th meeting?

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motion about uh who's going to approve

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>> I move I move to approve the May 18th,

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2026 board meeting minutes.

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>> Second.

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>> We have a motion from Councilmember

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Diggs and a second from Mayor Walker.

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All in favor of approving the minutes,

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please say aye.

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>> Passes unanimously. Thank you. Minutes

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approved.

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Uh do we have any conflicts of interest

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disclosures that anyone needs to uh

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declare before we begin the rest of our

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agenda?

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Seeing none. And Nick,

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do you know if anyone has their hand up

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online?

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Uh we will then move on to the next item

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on our agenda, which is um

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budget and to receive public comment for

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our tentative budget. Nick, are you

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planning to do uh an opening

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presentation before we open up to public

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comment?

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tentative budget uh was at the the May

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18th meeting. There are uh no changes

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on. We will do a short presentation on

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any changes we have for the final budget

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All right. Then with that, can I get a

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motion for us to open up uh a public

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hearing on our fiscal year '27

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>> Second. We have a motion from Walker, a

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Uh any discussion? Seeing none, we'll

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call for the vote. All in favor, please

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>> Any [clears throat] opposed?

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hearing uh for anyone who'd like to

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offer public comment uh on the League's

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fiscal year '27 budget. Just by way of a

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reminder, we've adopted rules for our

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public hearing, and anyone who gives

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comment will be limited to 3 minutes.

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We'd ask that those comments be germane

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to the budget before us, and that they

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will state their name and where in the

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state of Utah they live. So with that,

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we invite any of the public to have an

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» Is the noise up there?

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>> Is the noise up there?

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» Here your name again.

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>> Pardon?

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The voting I'm the reason why you asked

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last question last meeting why you're

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parameters around public speaking

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which is evident with the plethora of

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people who want to speak.

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Um my name is Ken Bullock.

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Uh our minutes are being recorded. Is

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that correct?

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Um I was the executive director of the

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league for over 30 minute or for over 30

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years. I built this organization from

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the ashes and I care about its

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reputation

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and how it's run. I'm here to talk about

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four things related to the budget.

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Since I'm limited in time

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I provided three of them in writing.

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Uh number one, unless the league board

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changed the policy, Salt Lake City's

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dues were capped at around $180,000,

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not the 254 in your budget. This came at

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the request of Salt Salt City Council

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and the league Board approved this

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policy. For confirmation, you should

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contact Cindy Gust Johnson, the former

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director of the Salt Lake City Council

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and Neil Abercrombie from the governor's

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office. Number two,

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and I I think it should be relevant that

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the League Board establish a regularly

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scheduled opportunities for the public

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to speak in League [clears throat]

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meetings.

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To date, you have 10 minutes in the

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course of the year

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approved on your budget for the public

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to speak. That seems highly irregular.

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Um I also would like the board to

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establish a policy prohibiting the

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League from lobbying on behalf of donors

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over $2,500.

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You have $400,000 you raise in your

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budget and there are obvious conflicts.

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When I left the League, the the staff

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included Meg Ryan, whom I hired to

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consult with small towns on land use

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questions.

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Among other things, Roger Tew was hired

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to consult with small towns on tax

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policies and uh

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and tax issues.

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We had Dave Church, an exceptional

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attorney, to answer procedural and legal

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Your executive director hired John Park

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to provide training for cities.

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When I left the League, I had

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established a baseline of $400,000 in

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donations, which you have maintained.

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I provided you with a four over $400,000

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in the form of a trust to be spent on

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training.

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You spent approximately $500,000 or more

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on renovating a perfectly suitable

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office.

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You have raised dues over 900

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approximately $900,000 over the past few

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years.

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In addition, the League has hired a

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staff member to market and solicit

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donations.

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So, why do you

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uh have the LAA L A A program?

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Raising tax cities have small cities

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have the option, just like other cities.

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They can raise their taxes. They can

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contact contract with the county to like

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they do with roads and public safety.

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They can contract with entities like the

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league does for legal services with your

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private entities.

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If they can't afford it, they should

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consider

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disincorporation.

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Your policy prism has three lines about

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uh

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So, when I'm introducing myself, that

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counted.

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Okay. The Let me just be very clear

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then.

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Um your policy prism says leave us

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alone, etc. It should say leave us alone

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and except when we want money.

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Your president mentioned last time that

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uh she has assurances from the

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legislative leadership that you'll get

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full funding for the LAA program.

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I will do I have and will do everything

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that I can to prevent you from doing

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that. Um I think it is it is morally

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bankrupt to ask the state legislature

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for money that the league has been

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providing a service for the better part

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of a hundred years

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to when there are more extremely

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legitimate needs for the state to be

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funding. And Councilman Dugan, as my

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council member, you wrote a text last

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session in regarding uh requesting the funding to

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be approved. And you stated that this

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was bad blood

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for because someone didn't want it. No,

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I just wholeheartedly disagree. The

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league That's what it's funded for.

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>> [clears throat]

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>> Is there anyone else who would like to

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offer public comment?

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If you just state your name for the

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record.

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>> Yes, my name is Liam Trillium and I live

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in Highland, Utah.

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I'm a former League employee as well. I

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actually ran the local administrative

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advisor program,

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which I think uh pound for pound, dollar

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for dollar, is probably the best

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investment the state has ever made. We

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have

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>> Sorry, we're resetting.

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>> Yep, no, we're good. It'll be shorter

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than 3 minutes.

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In my first year, there were over about 600 projects that were completed

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in over 100 different communities, and

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it's to an extent and to a point that

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the League had never been able to

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provide to rural Utah previously. We

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have members, I think, that are even on

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this board now that can speak to how

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that's gone above and beyond what's been

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provided in the past from the League.

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And then the other point I'd love to

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just uh quickly hit on is in my years

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working there, we have never done any

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lobbying on behalf of any donors uh to

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the League, so

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um at least nothing that I've ever seen

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um in the years that I was there, so

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thank you.

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>> [snorts]

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>> Thank you, Mr. Crabtree. Is there anyone

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else that would like to offer a public

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comment?

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Seeing none,

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we will go ahead and close the public

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comment on the fiscal year tentative

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budget,

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and move to the next item on the meeting

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agenda, which is

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>> I make a motion to close the public

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hearing.

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>> Okay, thank you, Seth.

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Uh Seth has heard a motion to close the

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public hearing. Do we have a second?

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>> [clears throat]

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>> Second from Councilman Tui'one.

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All in favor of closing the public

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hearing, please say aye.

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>> Aye.

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>> Any opposed?

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Seeing none, the motion is unanimously

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approved.

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Uh

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I'm going to just move us to item number

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four, which is is fully review,

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consideration,

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and potential adoption of our fiscal

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year 2027 budget. Um and I'm sure that

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there are some questions and or some

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comments that the board may have related

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to the budget, but let's allow our uh

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League staff the opportunity to would

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walk us through

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the budget

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and of course the memo that was provided

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in the packet.

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» Great. Uh

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thank you, Mayor. Um you have in your

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packets uh a memo and uh and slightly

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altered um budget uh for our we're

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proposing as a final budget adoption and

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the memo um it details what uh elements

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have changed between that and the

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tentative budget uh that you adopted in

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May. Um we have uh unrestricted revenue

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reserve increased by uh two uh 170,000

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from 114,000. That's a $56,000

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increase. We have publications updates

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expense increased to 56,000 from zero.

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Uh

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we have staff salaries expense increased

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uh to uh 1,385,000

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from 1,380,000.

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A five uh $5,000 increase.

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Also, a $5,000 increase to employee

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benefits

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>> [clears throat]

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>> expense from uh to 638,000 from 633,000.

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And then a uh contract labor decrease.

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Uh and I do have a typo here to 165,000

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from 175,000.

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Uh and that is a $10,000 decrease. So,

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that was a decrease in uh contract labor

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to fund uh uh slight increases in staff

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salaries and employee benefits as well

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as unrestricted revenue increase. The

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reasoning behind that is we are going to

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have publication expenses that we had

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budgeted for the end of this fiscal year

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in our update that we uh publication

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update that we used reserves for in this

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calendar year uh or excuse me, fiscal

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year. That uh will not happen until

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July. So, that is basically that money

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will be put to reserves and we'll be

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taking more out of reserves to fund what

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we planned on uh this year and next

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year.

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Um

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the proposed uh FY27 personnel budget uh

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includes an organization-wide 2 and 1/2%

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cost of living adjustment, various

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market and merit increases and job duty

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adjustments, and a benefits increase

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through our cafeteria plan for full-time

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staff.

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The board president conducted the

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executive director's annual review, and

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the board officers are recommending a

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2.5 merit increase for the executive

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director, which according to contract

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must be approved by the board as part of

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this budgeting process. This is also

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accounted for in the proposed final

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budget.

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Um we have a published notice of this

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hearing uh of the FY27 tentative budget

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on the public notice website,

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um and uh it has been available on the

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public notice website as well as our

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website, and public information handouts

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are available in the back with the

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tentative budget. Uh we would now ask

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the board uh to take action to approve

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the proposed final 2027 budget and

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executive director merit increase uh

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following the public hearing we just

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had.

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>> Okay, board members. Um you've had an

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opportunity to hear and review the

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budget in our meeting last month, and

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then you've received it in your packet.

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Does anyone have any questions for our

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staff about the

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budget that is before [clears throat]

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us?

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Okay, I don't see any questions. Is

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there anyone who has any

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um

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comments or feedback they'd like to add?

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Or any of our public comment?

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» I think I'll just add

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I'll make a comment I've as I've

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reviewed the budget and worked through

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the the issues associated with it, I

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think it's in line with

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uh

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how [clears throat]

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I see the operations of my individual

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city in terms of uh employee pay and and

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uh

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and also So, terms of growth and

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operations of the league is not without

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its growth

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pressures as well.

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Uh I think back over the last 10 years

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or so since I've been the city manager

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of Spanish Fork, the number of bills

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that that we face.

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So, I'm [clears throat] I'm really

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comfortable with with the process that

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we followed and and uh

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the different

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elements of the budget, especially those

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as it relates to the employees.

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>> [snorts]

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[clears throat]

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>> Thank you, sir.

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>> Yes.

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>> I'll speak to the LAA LAA discussion

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here.

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I'm pretty new to this, right? But, I'm from a big town now.

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Bigger city now, but grew up in a rural

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Utah. And I had the privilege of

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traveling to Camp this year

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to a couple of small areas where they

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rely on the LAA.

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It might be in my opinion it's a little

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misguided that we're like this is a

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the state has There's been so many bills

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passed in the cities. The LAA LAA is

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supporting those cities. In my opinion,

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we administer it, but it is supporting

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law bills that have been passed by the

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state legislature. We are administering

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it. Yes, it's been an added task

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from the state. That's why the state is

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funding this. It's We're trying to

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support the rural towns in their

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planning efforts in their

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growth, you know, all the efforts to

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support the growth happening in our

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state. It is a new program that didn't

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exist, for sure. Absolutely. But, that

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program those cities, those towns in

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rural Utah rely on this. They're more

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efficient than ever before. They're able

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to keep up on all the laws, the things

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that they could not get done before.

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The money that the I guarantee the money

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that's being sent spent by the state is

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being more than

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recuperated from other grants, from

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other funding sources they would have

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lost if they not had the

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support the resources to support them.

561
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So, 100% support the LAA, support what

562
00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:01,520
we do at this, support our staff. Um I

563
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:02,560
think every one of us sitting here we

564
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,400
all sit on our own city budgets. We're

565
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:05,640
We just finished our budgets. We of

566
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,080
course analyze

567
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:08,800
the fee that pay to the league, and it's

568
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,240
absolutely

569
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,120
We 100% support every year the fee that

570
00:21:12,120 --> 00:21:13,280
you

571
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:14,880
We feel that we get more than our

572
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,440
money's worth from the people we pay.

573
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,200
So, I just want to thank everybody here

574
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,640
that on our staff [snorts] that

575
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:21,720
every year there's more asked of you,

576
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,150
and so thank you for what you do. So.

577
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,280
» Thank you.

578
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:27,720
Any other comments?

579
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,800
>> We have Mayor Wright online as well.

580
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:30,840
>> Okay, we'll go to Mayor Winch, and then

581
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:31,880
we'll go to

582
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,000
>> Um I I would just like to echo what

583
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,520
Mayor Palmer said. Being one of the

584
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,440
representatives from a very small

585
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,400
community, and there are other

586
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,000
communities that surround mine who are

587
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,680
the having fewer staff,

588
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,280
part-time people a couple of times a

589
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,720
week, [snorts] and it has been such an

590
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,240
incredible

591
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,280
benefit for the small communities to

592
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:54,720
have that program, and I'm grateful for

593
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,240
the 20 years of support.

594
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:58,320
>> Thank you.

595
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,480
Mayor.

596
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:06,510
And then we have comments online.

597
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,960
» Yes, this is Mayor Wright from Torrey. I

598
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:09,920
just

599
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,200
want to uh

600
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,920
re-emphasize what I said to the state

601
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,360
legislature last summer. I cannot do

602
00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:17,840
right by the people of Torrey and Wayne

603
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,600
County without the LLA program.

604
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,190
Thank you.

605
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,800
» Thank you.

606
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:26,800
I'm sure.

607
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,200
>> Uh yes, Counselor

608
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,720
>> Um I would just like to echo Mayor

609
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,720
Palmer's sentiments as well. I think the

610
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,880
LLA is invaluable.

611
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,800
The ROI on that investment by the state

612
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,840
is large and demonstrable. We've seen

613
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,160
that and talked about it a lot, so I

614
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,480
appreciate that we have that opportunity

615
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,320
to help the cities with smaller staff be

616
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,320
successful.

617
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:47,655
Sorry, I'm so quiet.

618
00:22:47,655 --> 00:22:48,240
>> [laughter]

619
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,470
>> Yay LLA is what I said.

620
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,320
» I just wanted to say my appreciation to

621
00:22:54,320 --> 00:23:00,560
the staff for the deliberation of the budget and the thoughtfulness that went into it and

622
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,840
the programs and everything I have going

623
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,880
on with the the like across the board

624
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,120
budget.

625
00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:07,800
We got to St. George for the convention

626
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,120
down there, convention here, all the

627
00:23:10,120 --> 00:23:11,840
work that staff does

628
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,840
and staff does. I appreciate so much.

629
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,440
They also appreciate the way they're

630
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,480
very thoughtful about

631
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,680
our money and our our city's money and

632
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:20,600
also [clears throat] our our city's

633
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,200
work. So, my hats off to the staff for

634
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,280
their great work.

635
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,880
>> Can I say one more thing?

636
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,440
>> Yes, just one more. Sorry. On the on the

637
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,800
LA program, I you know what

638
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,320
I think it's really it speaks to the

639
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,880
growth and evolution and perhaps the the

640
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,720
foundation of course of of the league,

641
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,840
the services that we've provided

642
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,480
historically speaking.

643
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,360
But I I think a natural

644
00:23:44,360 --> 00:23:48,760
growth was this LA program because as

645
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,520
the city gets more as the state rather

646
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,520
gets more and more complex

647
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,440
the different number of bills that

648
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:55,440
happened

649
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,640
20 years ago, 30 years ago, the number

650
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:58,880
of bills, the types of bills and the

651
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,800
issues were not as complex as they are

652
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,560
today that

653
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:03,200
the development [clears throat]

654
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,240
community uh

655
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,680
and those that are there, the residents and the challenges that

656
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,200
they face, water issues and so on. And

657
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,280
so I think I think what we have done as

658
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,480
a league historically [snorts] speaking

659
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,240
and what we're offering it you know in

660
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,760
one element with the LA program is a

661
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,800
natural growth and I think it's a great

662
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,720
program that speaks to what we have done

663
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,880
and what we're continuing to do paying

664
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,560
attention to the needs of our members,

665
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,160
paying attention to the needs of cities

666
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,000
as they get created and as they as they

667
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,520
proliferate etc.

668
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:35,731
So, I love that

669
00:24:35,731 --> 00:24:36,000
>> [clears throat]

670
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,880
>> that we've been able to look at the

671
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,560
needs and evolve responding to those

672
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,120
needs like the LA program, working with

673
00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:45,320
the state and I think the state's seen

674
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,480
you know, you big cities or you know,

675
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,160
whatever you however you define an an

676
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,520
established city that that has staff,

677
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,440
you might be doing it okay, but these

678
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,040
smaller cities can have this help. I

679
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,520
think it's a great program that

680
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,160
I love that it's built on our history

681
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,920
and and

682
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,960
allows us to have evolved and I think

683
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:08,110
they did a great job in all of that.

684
00:25:08,120 --> 00:25:10,440
» Anyone else?

685
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,200
All right, I'll take this moment then to

686
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,240
just offer some thoughts that I have as

687
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,870
well.

688
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,320
We've talked before that the strength of

689
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,120
the league is its members.

690
00:25:22,120 --> 00:25:23,680
And our members come in all different

691
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,560
shapes and sizes from big cities to

692
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,960
medium cities to small cities. Some of

693
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,440
us are resort cities, some of us are

694
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,120
rural cities, some of us are capital

695
00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:33,400
cities, some of us are

696
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,640
lovely suburbs just south of the capital

697
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,302
city.

698
00:25:37,302 --> 00:25:38,960
>> [laughter]

699
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,840
>> And but the strength comes from the fact

700
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,480
that we have

701
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,960
a great diversity of experiences

702
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,680
but also tremendous willingness to pull

703
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,080
together

704
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,280
to make sure that we're doing this

705
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,400
important frontline work that local

706
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,680
government does.

707
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,280
And um

708
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,040
in serving on this board and in serving

709
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,720
on the executive committee after years

710
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,800
of serving in this role

711
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,520
for the past several months, I get to

712
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,320
have quite an insight into what our

713
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,040
operations are

714
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,560
and how our staff engages and thanks to

715
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,320
my day job I get to spend many many

716
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,120
years with many of our league staff. So

717
00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:19,223
I get to see them

718
00:26:19,223 --> 00:26:19,640
>> [snorts]

719
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,360
>> as a peer in terms of their actions.

720
00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:25,880
I'm proud of the work we do

721
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,680
and I'm proud of the way we engage.

722
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,320
And I'm proud of the way we stand up for

723
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,000
our fellow cities even sometimes when

724
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,040
it's not in our direct interest.

725
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,680
There have been numerous times that the

726
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,200
legislature has for

727
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,840
whatever [snorts] reason decided they

728
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,520
aren't happy with things our capital

729
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:43,880
cities do.

730
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,480
And the league has stood to push back

731
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,120
and to point to our principles and point

732
00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:51,120
to good good governance and be part of

733
00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:52,680
that effort.

734
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,360
Um, there have been times where um, we have

735
00:26:56,360 --> 00:26:59,240
needed to help our smaller rural

736
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,920
communities and the LAA program is that

737
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,000
response.

738
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,360
Um

739
00:27:04,360 --> 00:27:06,360
during the 25

740
00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:08,880
legislative session um

741
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,880
Mayor Walker and I were at the capital

742
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,400
with lead staff responding when the

743
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,320
legislature, in my opinion in a

744
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,200
misguided way, decided to pull some of

745
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,280
that fund because of, in my opinion

746
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,520
again, bad information that they

747
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:21,240
um,

748
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,640
had received for that program.

749
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,320
Uh, and I was grateful that with all of

750
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,480
you, with great advocacy for many of you

751
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,400
that represent rural communities, and

752
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,520
many of you like me and will never ever get to take advantage of the LAA

753
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,920
program because my city is too big.

754
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,400
I've put tremendous time and resources

755
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,240
to helping educate and restore that

756
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,320
funding.

757
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,600
Um

758
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,280
I have confidence that if it appears in

759
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,680
a legislative bill that it is going to

760
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,960
happen. Um

761
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,120
and the funding will

762
00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:52,560
fully come our way.

763
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:57,400
So, um, I think it's unfortunate um

764
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,680
that those who were once engaged with us

765
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,640
in this work don't see the value of this

766
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,760
program.

767
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:03,880
Um

768
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,920
my hope is that perhaps they'll spend

769
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,520
some time talking with some of those

770
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,000
rural communities

771
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,640
that I and others of you have had the

772
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,080
opportunity to see the value of this

773
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,120
program.

774
00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:15,520
Um, I'm happy to recommend this budget.

775
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,680
Uh, happy to recommend all of elements

776
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,960
of it. Um, happy to spend some good time

777
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,920
with our staff to do so.

778
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,840
that is

779
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,480
what I would have to say about the

780
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,440
budget and any particular issue.

781
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,200
So, with that, if there's no one else

782
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,120
that would like to offer any um

783
00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:35,360
comments from the board

784
00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:38,000
um, we will move to uh,

785
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,040
consideration and adoption of the fiscal

786
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,400
year

787
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,320
uh, 27 budget and the accompanying uh,

788
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,560
budget resolution.

789
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,240
>> And the executive director merit

790
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:48,960
increase.

791
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,280
>> And, of course, included there in the

792
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,200
executive director merit increase, which

793
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,000
again I strongly

794
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,000
recommend. [snorts]

795
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,640
We had an excellent session. Our

796
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,640
executive director was a key part of

797
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,160
our success this legislative session.

798
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:02,760
So,

799
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,440
>> Madam Chair, so moved that we approve

800
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:05,480
the budget

801
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,280
>> Second.

802
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,760
>> and the merit increase

803
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,560
>> and the resolution finance.

804
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:10,440
>> resolution.

805
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,720
>> And the resolution. So, we have a motion

806
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,360
from Mayor Walker, and I think I heard

807
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,880
Councilor Eggbert with the second.

808
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,160
>> Actually, I heard several seconds, but

809
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:16,360
I'll

810
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:16,730
>> I'll

811
00:29:16,730 --> 00:29:16,760
>> [laughter]

812
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,000
>> second.

813
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:18,640
>> It's a second.

814
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,160
>> Thirds, fourths, and fifths.

815
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,280
>> Is there any further discussion to the

816
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,400
motion?

817
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,040
Seeing none, I'll call for the vote. All

818
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,280
in favor, please say aye.

819
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,510
>> Aye.

820
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:31,520
» Any opposed?

821
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,720
>> Where are we at on the agenda?

822
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,400
>> It looks like that passes unanimously.

823
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,680
Thank you,

824
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,480
for your hard work

825
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,390
on that item.

826
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,360
We'll move on then in our agenda to item

827
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,960
number five, which is to consider ULCT

828
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,400
Boards and Commissions reports and

829
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,120
appointments. And, Alexa is going to

830
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,320
talk to us about that.

831
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,640
>> All right, good afternoon, everyone. I

832
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,520
have three items for you today, an

833
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,160
update discussion item, and then an

834
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,320
action item. So, you might remember from

835
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,920
our last board meeting, I updated you on

836
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,520
our current ULCT's current

837
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,040
representation on the Utah

838
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,320
Communications Authority Board. As a

839
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,720
reminder, our current representatives on

840
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,000
the board are Ogden City Administrator

841
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,960
Myra Brown, and St. George Government

842
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,560
Affairs Director Shawn Guzman. Both Myra

843
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,600
and Shawn are moving on from their roles

844
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,240
at their respective cities at the end of

845
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,040
the month. Both Myra and Shawn have

846
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,920
indicated an interest to continue

847
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,720
serving on the board until their terms

848
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,800
end in 2027 and 2028. Nothing in state

849
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,600
law precludes them from serving even

850
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,920
after they've retired, and in fact, many

851
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,880
of the representatives on the Utah

852
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,560
Communications Authority Board now are

853
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,440
retired officials from whatever sector

854
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,440
they represent. Um this is likely in

855
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,320
part because state law does preclude

856
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,960
current users of the 911 system from

857
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,480
serving on the board. So, we've

858
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,440
interpreted this to mean individuals

859
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,600
whose day jobs are in direct contact

860
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,160
with the 911 system. So, all of that is

861
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,240
to say in conversations that we've had

862
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,320
with cities in the past month since the

863
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,440
last board meeting, we've received a few

864
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,480
requests for our representa-

865
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,160
representatives on the UCA board to be

866
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,280
actively involved in the day-to-day

867
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,320
operations of the city. So, that leads

868
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,720
us to the question that we have for you

869
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,320
today. I would love to get your feedback

870
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,360
on is whether it's important to you as

871
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,720
the board that our UCA representatives

872
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,800
are currently employed by a city and

873
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,240
we'll take our next steps based on that

874
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,600
feedback. So, love to hear from you.

875
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,080
>> Board members, any feedback for Alexa on

876
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,190
this matter?

877
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,320
» I have some normal review kick off some

878
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,120
thoughts. Um I think that uh Shawn and

879
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,520
Mira have done a a tremendous job

880
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:40,831
serving. Um

881
00:31:40,831 --> 00:31:41,600
>> [clears throat]

882
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,800
>> they have served uh us in many

883
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,960
capacities over the years um

884
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,640
representing the cities on the boards

885
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,360
and they have a depth of expertise in

886
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,120
this and that.

887
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,960
Um I do think that this is a really

888
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,120
critical

889
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:54,760
uh

890
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,040
board especially where we have moved to

891
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,360
consolidate uh

892
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,000
PSAPs uh up and down the state. And so,

893
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,400
I think uh

894
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,000
having representatives that are

895
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,880
directly employed W-2 type employment

896
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,920
with cities is is really the key

897
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,320
um

898
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,240
and in that representation on the board.

899
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,240
Uh

900
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,280
so, that would be my recommendation and

901
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,000
suggestion. Um I also

902
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,440
in guiding this a little bit, I have

903
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,840
found it odd that the legislature

904
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,560
has precluded anyone actively receiving

905
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,760
services from serving on this board.

906
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:30,560
This

907
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:31,600
um

908
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,160
you know, I know enough about dispatch

909
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,960
to just be incredibly dangerous to me in

910
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,480
this is a important

911
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,240
technical area where a director of the

912
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,600
dispatch center um

913
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,080
makes a lot of sense to have

914
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,800
representing us. And so, it it'd be

915
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,600
something where we want to entertain

916
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,320
in the future asking the legislature to

917
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,520
think about

918
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,400
that policy so that we can have people

919
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:51,640
who are

920
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,120
very hands-on, especially with that

921
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,000
uh knowledge-based platform consolidated

922
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,880
with the consolidation of these apps.

923
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:58,760
So,

924
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,480
um

925
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,680
that would be

926
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,120
my suggestion for the

927
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,760
uh

928
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,240
in the office just just enough to be

929
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,680
slightly dangerous though.

930
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:09,920
>> So, is that who you're recommending be

931
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:10,720
put in here?

932
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,320
>> I'm not recommending they can be because

933
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,840
they're both retiring and will no longer

934
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,000
be W-2 employees of of either St. George

935
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,030
or Ogden.

936
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,920
» Who would qualify then? I'm just cuz I

937
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,920
thought about that, too. Who else?

938
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,080
>> Mr. Can't be a just

939
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,040
Yeah, please.

940
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:26,920
>> Yeah, let's [clears throat] not jump in

941
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:27,400
too much.

942
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:28,520
>> Yeah, please.

943
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,360
>> Yeah, so yeah, so the question yeah, I

944
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,560
mean who qualifies? It's basically

945
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,520
there's a disqualification cuz you can't

946
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,600
be a direct user of the of the system of

947
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,120
911 system. Um

948
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,040
a step removed from that though, you're

949
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,160
fine. The the the line is not a bright

950
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,160
line, but if you're a direct user of the

951
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,880
system, you would not qualify. But, city

952
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,680
attorney is fine.

953
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,480
City manager, an elected official,

954
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:51,520
there's nothing that says it can't be

955
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:52,240
any of those.

956
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,200
>> In your opinion, or

957
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,520
>> Is what too close? A chief of police is

958
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:56,800
too close, yeah.

959
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,360
>> But, a city manager, a city attorney

960
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,040
>> City manager, city attorney, an elected

961
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,000
official, there's nothing that says they

962
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,880
can't be be a city council member or

963
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:04,640
mayor.

964
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,320
>> How long do I have to go without dialing

965
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,440
911 before I'm not considered a direct

966
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,639
user?

967
00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:11,000
>> If you're if you're calling in every

968
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,159
day, I don't know if that disqualifies

969
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:12,793
or not.

970
00:34:12,793 --> 00:34:13,120
>> [laughter]

971
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,120
>> We we might have to have some

972
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,960
discussions.

973
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,960
>> It'd be helpful that the board has at

974
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,159
the very least maybe an ex officio like

975
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:22,280
somehow let's get some

976
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,800
of our city members there that are

977
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,760
users, not on the board, but that we

978
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,919
operate like to your point of do we how

979
00:34:27,919 --> 00:34:30,040
do we change it? Cuz I agree with you. I

980
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,600
think having some users in the room would be really

981
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,600
helpful in those discussions.

982
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,760
>> I I guess if I can jump in again,

983
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,840
whoever I'm asking, Mayor. Um

984
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:40,679
>> Please, Justin. Please.

985
00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:41,760
>> I was going to ask Alexa, but I'm like,

986
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,200
that's who I usually ask if I can do

987
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,760
things.

988
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,520
Um there is there is also, and it's

989
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:47,800
important to know, there is an advisory

990
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,360
committee to the UCA, and that is made

991
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,200
up of some users. So, there is a group

992
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,040
there trying to give some input. The

993
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,360
advisory committee um doesn't bind

994
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,840
anything. There's there's not a binding

995
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,280
vote from that. The executive director

996
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,720
can listen to their feedback and then do

997
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:03,240
with it what they will. Um so, there is

998
00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:04,560
something built in where they're trying

999
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,640
to get feedback from those users, but

1000
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,280
it's not the exact same as the board who

1001
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,000
actually votes on on what they're going

1002
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,120
to do.

1003
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,080
Um

1004
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,920
I will say that I've had conversations

1005
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,320
with uh several of your cities um with

1006
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,280
some of your chiefs and some of your

1007
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,680
other people um some of your 911

1008
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,160
operators um and there are concerns that

1009
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,480
there there are concerns that there are

1010
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,320
concerns they're not being heard. Um and

1011
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,520
sometimes when you don't have those

1012
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,320
people in the room who can raise the

1013
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,520
concerns, and even if you just know

1014
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:34,680
enough to be dangerous, one of the

1015
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,400
things we've asked many of those people

1016
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,760
is what should we be looking for? And

1017
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,240
often times this is just someone who

1018
00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:42,160
will ask the questions. You know, why

1019
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,400
are we doing this? Why does this make

1020
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,680
sense? Um is this something that works

1021
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,320
for us? Have we heard from the users? Um

1022
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:50,640
so, I would I would back up what you

1023
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,680
said uh

1024
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,280
Mayor, that there are there are many

1025
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,880
people who would like to see a little

1026
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,840
bit more input on those boards. The

1027
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,200
other board members currently are often

1028
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,080
times retired retired folks uh whether

1029
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,360
they're retired county commissioners,

1030
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,480
retired legislators, or people who may

1031
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,680
have been a user, but it's been been a

1032
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:10,960
minute, and the technology has been

1033
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,240
updated. So, I would say from the the

1034
00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:15,280
users that I have talked to, I would say

1035
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,640
it matches that that they would like to

1036
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,520
see some change.

1037
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,440
>> How often does this board meet?

1038
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,520
>> Uh they meet uh so, that's they're

1039
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,160
meeting in August again, so they'll meet

1040
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,400
on August 12th. They We about every

1041
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,360
couple of months. Um sometimes a little

1042
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:28,240
more often, but

1043
00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:29,280
>> It's a quarterly.

1044
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,760
>> I'd say more like bi-monthly.

1045
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,120
I think about six times a year is pretty

1046
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,280
normal.

1047
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:35,480
>> And I think

1048
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:36,760
the discussion is great. I want to have

1049
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,400
it. I think what Alexa is looking for

1050
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,040
first and foremost in direction is

1051
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,600
do we want

1052
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,280
the people we are sending to represent

1053
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,840
cities to be directly employed by the

1054
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,440
city at W-2

1055
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:50,560
employee or

1056
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:51,640
>> We're not picking somebody

1057
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:52,280
>> Yeah, we're not picking

1058
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,680
>> Correct.

1059
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,680
>> We're giving direction on just kind of

1060
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,840
this first step of how connected to

1061
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:58,920
cities

1062
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,880
uh, should these people be sent and then

1063
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:01,240
>> Mhm.

1064
00:37:01,240 --> 00:37:02,920
>> And then And then we will go look for

1065
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:03,440
people that

1066
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:03,800
>> Correct.

1067
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,280
>> that meet whatever we're setting. So,

1068
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,960
just just to set your expectations. And

1069
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,440
because I could see Alexa's head going,

1070
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:10,920
"What?"

1071
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,265
>> I think he made a rash job.

1072
00:37:12,265 --> 00:37:12,960
>> [snorts]

1073
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,000
>> one piece of that as well. Please and

1074
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:14,720
then we'll go over here.

1075
00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:16,520
>> Yeah, Shawn and Mera have been terrific.

1076
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,160
They both have a lot of quick stints and

1077
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,720
background in this space. It's just a

1078
00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:23,840
unique opportunity that they are both

1079
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,360
leaving their current positions at the

1080
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,200
same time. And that's where we thought

1081
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,720
it warranted having this this bigger

1082
00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:32,000
conversation. Uh, so it's not about

1083
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,560
those two particularly. I spoke with

1084
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,320
both of them to chat about the fact that

1085
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,960
their terms are up in 1 year and 2

1086
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,320
years. Does it make sense to continue

1087
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:40,520
them or does it make sense to take a

1088
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,280
step back? The second thing to note is

1089
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,200
these are gubernatorial appointments in

1090
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,880
statute. We as a league send names. So,

1091
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,520
this board sent those two names

1092
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,480
previously

1093
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:51,920
along with other names cuz the governor

1094
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,920
always asks for two names for every one

1095
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,360
spot that the governor or that the the

1096
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:00,160
governor actually nominates. So, if this

1097
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,600
board feels like at this point it's a

1098
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,280
good time to maybe reset how we're

1099
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,000
engaging with UCA, we would then need to

1100
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,800
ask Shawn and Mera as they're stepping

1101
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,520
down from their current positions to

1102
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,520
then also step down from UCA to create a

1103
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,760
gubernatorial vacancy and then we would

1104
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,040
recommend

1105
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,760
uh, names for the governor

1106
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:19,800
>> So, you're saying not to continue

1107
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:20,920
through 2027.

1108
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,280
>> Correct.

1109
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,960
So, yeah, ultimately the yeah, the quick

1110
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,920
is should Shanna and Mayor step down

1111
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,800
this summer and we recommend two other

1112
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,560
names to the governor to appoint is kind

1113
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:31,720
of the question we're asking.

1114
00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:33,800
>> I want to just ask the policy question

1115
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,600
first and then we can come back later to

1116
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:36,720
business.

1117
00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:38,200
>> And then Council member Eggbert had a

1118
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,160
comment slash question.

1119
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,800
>> My I have a statement to second your

1120
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,400
statement that I support the principle

1121
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,160
that the board represent the board

1122
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,000
representatives are either in employed

1123
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,680
or elected positions with incentives.

1124
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,070
>> Yeah.

1125
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:56,920
» Any other thoughts or comments that I

1126
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,120
don't want to leave out of the board

1127
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,320
members that are online if any of them

1128
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:05,990
have thoughts or feedback for us.

1129
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,520
» No hands or chat.

1130
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,040
>> Shepherd shaking his head.

1131
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,640
Um

1132
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:11,880
Do you feel like you would you have what

1133
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,360
you need to or would you do you need us

1134
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,440
to make that formal motion for you?

1135
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,480
>> Cool. I was just thinking that same I

1136
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,280
don't

1137
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,600
Well, I guess most would make it really

1138
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,360
clean. Um

1139
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:28,430
yeah, and should we look for um

1140
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,800
new representatives to the UCA board.

1141
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:31,840
Um

1142
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,160
however we want to make that motion.

1143
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,920
>> There are no hands.

1144
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,022
>> I make a motion that yes we do.

1145
00:39:37,022 --> 00:39:37,600
>> [laughter]

1146
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:38,800
>> Perfect.

1147
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:39,440
>> I second.

1148
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,040
>> cleaning up my my statement.

1149
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:41,960
>> So, you have a motion by yes.

1150
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:42,917
>> We have a motion by Mayor Palmer. We

1151
00:39:42,917 --> 00:39:43,960
[snorts] have a second from Council

1152
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,160
member Eggbert.

1153
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:45,720
Uh

1154
00:39:45,720 --> 00:39:47,440
any further discussion or clarification

1155
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,230
needed?

1156
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:52,360
Seeing none, I'll call for the vote. All

1157
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,480
in favor of the motion, please say I.

1158
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,000
>> I.

1159
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,000
>> Any opposed?

1160
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,320
Seeing none.

1161
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,360
So, I think you've got the direction you

1162
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:01,520
need.

1163
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,680
>> We do. Yes. Everyone for the feedback.

1164
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,560
And in the meantime, if you have anyone

1165
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:06,760
that you think would be a great

1166
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:07,920
representative for the Utah

1167
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,880
Communications Authority Board, let me

1168
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:10,840
know and we'll come back with

1169
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,840
recommendations at the August meeting.

1170
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,000
>> Yeah, I just did the

1171
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,160
same with Alexa just said, but and if

1172
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,600
any of you are perhaps interested, um it

1173
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:19,640
doesn't again if you have someone in

1174
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,480
your city, that's great. If you want to

1175
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:22,880
volunteer them that this is a good thing

1176
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,840
for them to do. Um but also if if

1177
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,880
someone on our own board is interested,

1178
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:27,920
that's something that we could certainly

1179
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,920
discuss um as that would give us some

1180
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,960
direct feedback to this board from the

1181
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,160
other board. So, um like Lexi said,

1182
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,280
we'll come back in August but if you

1183
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,560
yourself have interest or someone in

1184
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,040
your city, please send them our way.

1185
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:40,920
>> Okay.

1186
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:41,760
>> Uh

1187
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:42,920
Lexi, do you want to talk about the

1188
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,000
other items in your uh staff report?

1189
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,440
>> I'd love to. Yes, I'm going to jump down

1190
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,920
to the third item cuz the second item is

1191
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,280
an action item and I want that to be

1192
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,560
fresh in your minds when you take

1193
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,000
action. So, just an update on the Joint

1194
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,760
Highway Committee. So, you as the Board

1195
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,040
of Directors are responsible for

1196
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,440
appointing 15 regional and at-large

1197
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,480
representatives to the JHC. Um thank

1198
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,280
you. Huge shout-out to Council Member

1199
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,280
Shumway not only for her participation

1200
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,320
on the JHC but also making sure that

1201
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,040
we're staying on top of things and

1202
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,520
ensuring that we're maximizing our

1203
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,480
representation on this board. So, we

1204
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,520
have staff has have identified six

1205
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,640
vacancies on the Joint Highway Committee

1206
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,080
that need to be filled. And we've

1207
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,760
already lined up individuals for um

1208
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,480
several of these. So, we have people in

1209
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,880
mind um but we will come back at our

1210
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,200
August board meeting and make

1211
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:29,840
recommendations to make those six

1212
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,400
appointments. Um two of the appointments

1213
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,840
that we have not discussed with anyone

1214
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,800
yet or haven't identified any potential

1215
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,120
volunteers for. One is an at-large

1216
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,680
appointment. So, if there's anyone from

1217
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:41,920
your city or if any of you are

1218
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,560
interested in serving on the Joint

1219
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,560
Highway Committee, please let me know.

1220
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,560
And then the other vacancy is a seat

1221
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,600
dedicated specifically to someone from

1222
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,920
Carbon, Emery, Grand, or San Juan

1223
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,040
County. So, especially those counties

1224
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,520
but all of you if there's anyone that

1225
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:57,640
you could think of that would be a good

1226
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,200
fit, please let me know and we'll talk

1227
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:03,510
in August.

1228
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:04,440
Please.

1229
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,120
>> Do you want uh

1230
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,720
do you want people who perhaps are like

1231
00:42:07,720 --> 00:42:09,240
directors of streets departments?

1232
00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:11,000
>> It could be either. Typically, it's

1233
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,360
going to be staff that is on the Joint

1234
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:14,640
Highway Committee. It's more staff

1235
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,560
members than elected officials, but it

1236
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,480
could be anyone that's interested and

1237
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,240
has some knowledge about the area.

1238
00:42:21,240 --> 00:42:22,760
Exactly. Yeah, lots of public works

1239
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:23,960
directors on there, but of course

1240
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,080
elected officials as well. So, thanks

1241
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,350
for the question.

1242
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:34,519
» But it is during our conference.

1243
00:42:34,529 --> 00:42:35,960
» [laughter]

1244
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,240
>> Yes, and they meet again in September as

1245
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:39,800
well, I should have mentioned. So, we'll

1246
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,160
be making these appointments at the

1247
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,520
August Board meeting so that we have a

1248
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,800
full roster for September.

1249
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,000
Great.

1250
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,640
Perfect. And then my last item, so at

1251
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,480
our June LPC meeting we announced a

1252
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,440
staff an opportunity for elected

1253
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,120
officials from 10 counties to serve on

1254
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,880
their counties outdoor recreation

1255
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,400
initiative regional recreation ranking

1256
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,320
council. I got that right. So, those

1257
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,000
councils, yeah, long name. Those

1258
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,080
councils are very important step in the

1259
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,320
outdoor recreation funding process as

1260
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,240
they'll review project applications

1261
00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:11,840
within their region, rank those

1262
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,960
projects, and then submit those rankings

1263
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,000
to the Outdoor Adventure Commission

1264
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,760
who's ultimately responsible for making

1265
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,160
funding decisions for those outdoor

1266
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,480
councils. And so, since June 1st we've

1267
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,560
been soliciting volunteers to serve on

1268
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,360
these outdoor recreation councils. So,

1269
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,040
we're recommending a staff that you

1270
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,440
appoint the following individuals to

1271
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,240
their respective regional recreation

1272
00:43:31,240 --> 00:43:33,680
council. So, first Brigham City Mayor

1273
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,720
D.J. Foote as a Box Elder County

1274
00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:38,040
representative to the Northern Regional

1275
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,320
Recreation Council. And then Salt Lake

1276
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,520
City Council member Dan Dugan as a Salt

1277
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,000
Lake County representative to Wasatch

1278
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,920
Front Regional Council. And then Ogden

1279
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,920
Mayor Ben Nadolski as a Weber County

1280
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,960
representative also to the Wasatch Front

1281
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,040
Regional Recreation Council.

1282
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,200
Green River Council member Guy Webster

1283
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,240
as an Emery County representative to the

1284
00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:00,920
Eastern Regional Council. And then a to

1285
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,920
be determined Salina Council member as a

1286
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,880
Sevier County representative on the

1287
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,680
Central Regional Recreation Council.

1288
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,280
Just so you're aware, Salina gave us two council members that are interested,

1289
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,960
and so we're waiting to hear back on

1290
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,040
their preferred candidate. So, I'm happy

1291
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,440
to answer any questions about those. I

1292
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,600
know it was a mouthful, but just asking

1293
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:18,920
for you to appoint those five

1294
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,600
individuals to those four councils.

1295
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,320
>> Okay. I happen to serve on the Wasatch

1296
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,000
Front ranking council, and

1297
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,320
help represent the legal on the Wasatch

1298
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,400
Front on the Upper Metro Commission. It

1299
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,520
is a fun time.

1300
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,160
And I look forward to There was a couple

1301
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,240
names from the board that will be

1302
00:44:35,240 --> 00:44:37,120
joining me on the Wasatch Front

1303
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,360
committee. We had a meeting last week.

1304
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,920
Lots of great planning taking place, so

1305
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:42,800
um

1306
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,520
I will just add a thumbs up that this is

1307
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,840
a fun and interesting

1308
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,440
um way to engage in upper recreation

1309
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,630
planning.

1310
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,040
Any other

1311
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,680
comments or questions about the names

1312
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,230
that have been proposed?

1313
00:44:58,240 --> 00:44:59,800
I'm sure other ranking councils besides

1314
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,520
the Wasatch Front one are also

1315
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:03,200
equally awesome.

1316
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,240
>> Sure.

1317
00:45:05,240 --> 00:45:06,280
>> All right.

1318
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:07,960
Um in that case, I think we need a

1319
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,160
motion to uh recommend those names. Is

1320
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,830
anyone prepared to make a motion?

1321
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,320
» So moved.

1322
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:17,560
>> Okay, we've a motion from

1323
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:18,000
>> Second.

1324
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,680
>> from Mayor Palmer, and a second I saw

1325
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:20,760
from Mayor Weight. Actually, I saw

1326
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,211
Weight raise your hand.

1327
00:45:22,211 --> 00:45:22,960
>> [laughter]

1328
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,590
>> I can lift, so

1329
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:27,640
» I think I think they're both

1330
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:28,640
recommending you, so

1331
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,040
>> So that's good. Thank you.

1332
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,320
>> Uh any discussions about motion?

1333
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,320
Seeing none, all in favor, please say

1334
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,276
>> Aye.

1335
00:45:37,276 --> 00:45:37,960
>> [snorts]

1336
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,910
>> Any opposed?

1337
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,200
Looks like that passes unanimously.

1338
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,240
And uh look forward to

1339
00:45:45,240 --> 00:45:47,720
some new friends on that uh ranking

1340
00:45:47,720 --> 00:45:50,040
>> Thanks, everyone.

1341
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,120
>> Okay, that takes care of item number

1342
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,480
five, so we will be moving on to item

1343
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:55,880
number six on our agenda, which is our

1344
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,400
executive director report. Hey, it's

1345
00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:59,760
nice that we moved this up so that you

1346
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,760
don't have to do this in Promise us that

1347
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,476
you can do this in 30 seconds.

1348
00:46:03,476 --> 00:46:04,240
>> [laughter]

1349
00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:06,280
>> In this case

1350
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,520
uh per our constitution and bylaws, we

1351
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,120
have to do this in the June meeting. So,

1352
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:11,600
that's why we moved it up to make sure

1353
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,760
it got done at the at the June meeting.

1354
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,000
Uh thank you everybody for joining us in

1355
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,240
the presidential city of Bountiful

1356
00:46:17,240 --> 00:46:20,400
today. And this is the formal

1357
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,160
announcement in the board and we will

1358
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:23,960
also announce it through upcoming Friday

1359
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,160
facts

1360
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,400
um the upcoming board of vacancies after

1361
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,320
the annual convention.

1362
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,720
So, when the membership a few years ago

1363
00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:34,360
changed the constitution, expanded the

1364
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,040
board from 16 to 21, we created uh those

1365
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,760
additional board spots. Also, elevated

1366
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,040
the UCMA representative um who is Seth

1367
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,000
to be an elite officer, which is a

1368
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,760
four-year term. So, the four-year terms,

1369
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,360
you can see has will have a vacancy

1370
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:50,960
because we'll elect the second vice

1371
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,480
president uh this fall. First vice

1372
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,080
president, Mary Palmer, will chair the

1373
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,920
nominations committee.

1374
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,240
And we will be putting together that

1375
00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:00,280
nominations committee uh later this

1376
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,400
summer in accordance with the

1377
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,880
constitution and bylaws. We appreciate

1378
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,200
all the feedback you gave us in St.

1379
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:09,360
George during our strategic session of ways that we can improve that process

1380
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:10,840
and improve the the communication. The

1381
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,080
good news is

1382
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,160
um every year that I've been director,

1383
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,240
we've had at least three and sometimes

1384
00:47:15,240 --> 00:47:16,440
up to five times the number of

1385
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,320
applicants as we've had available spots.

1386
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,720
So, every year the first vice president

1387
00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:23,080
has her or his work cut out for them.

1388
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,120
So, Mary Palmer, thank you in advance

1389
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,280
for chairing that.

1390
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,560
Um also, for the feedback uh you gave

1391
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,720
us, so we'll continue with the hybrid

1392
00:47:31,720 --> 00:47:32,880
approach that we've been doing the last

1393
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,360
few years, a combination of the multiple

1394
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,000
Zoom meetings and then the final

1395
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,840
deliberation as part of the annual

1396
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,280
convention. Because the annual

1397
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,920
convention is happening at the end of

1398
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,240
October, we have a little more of a

1399
00:47:43,240 --> 00:47:44,400
runway

1400
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:45,960
in the summer time than we normally do.

1401
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,800
And so, when the materials come out, the

1402
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,000
deadlines will reflect that additional

1403
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,320
runway. If you see your name highlighted

1404
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,960
in blue or in gold, that means your term

1405
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,960
is up at the end uh at the end of this

1406
00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:01,440
year, which ends at the end of

1407
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,880
convention. If your name is not in the

1408
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,680
blue or gold, then you have an

1409
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,040
additional year or in case the officers

1410
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,960
uh through the rest of your term. So, we

1411
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,160
want to all just make sure you are

1412
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:12,520
aware.

1413
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,400
Um you are welcome to uh reapply for the

1414
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:16,800
board, and then we'll be building up the

1415
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,400
nominations committee

1416
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,720
again per your feedback of a combination

1417
00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:21,560
of

1418
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:22,800
former board members, current board

1419
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,040
members, and people who've never been on

1420
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,280
the board. And then have the geographic

1421
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,040
uh diversity, um size city diversity

1422
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,800
from across the state. So, this is our

1423
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,520
official notice. We'll have more

1424
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,440
information in upcoming Friday Facts. Um

1425
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,720
any questions about nominations process

1426
00:48:37,720 --> 00:48:42,390
or next steps here?

1427
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,280
Nick, uh just the staff person

1428
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,160
responsible for nominations committee,

1429
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:47,200
anything else you want to add?

1430
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,200
>> Just very quickly, uh this is also we'll

1431
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:50,800
also be announcing along with the

1432
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,720
vacancies for the board being in Friday

1433
00:48:52,720 --> 00:48:54,720
Facts. We will also officially announce

1434
00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:57,240
to general membership and uh here that

1435
00:48:57,240 --> 00:48:59,080
the nominations committee is now open.

1436
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,200
So, anyone who wants to solicit their uh

1437
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,840
wants to participate on the nominations

1438
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,440
committee, now is the time they can uh

1439
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,200
start to let us know. And then color

1440
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,240
coding on there, uh blue means it's a

1441
00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:10,520
vacancy, yellow means it's a vacancy we

1442
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,600
have to fill um specifically in this

1443
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,880
case uh with someone from area eight,

1444
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,120
and the uh seven in blue would be uh

1445
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:20,920
{quote} {unquote} at large positions.

1446
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,880
So, we have everything else filled um

1447
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,440
through someone who is not undergoing a

1448
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,920
vacancy this year that uh that we need

1449
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,400
to have on our board such as area

1450
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,960
representation, two from uh first or

1451
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,360
second class city, and a town. Um so,

1452
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:35,400
that's that's kind of the lay of the

1453
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,670
land currently.

1454
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,280
One last note on nominations committee,

1455
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:41,960
again based on the feedback you gave us

1456
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,320
in April,

1457
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,680
we intend to have a nominations

1458
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,360
committee that does not have anyone on

1459
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,080
the nominations committee who has

1460
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:51,760
someone from their city running for the

1461
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,040
board.

1462
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,720
We did not codify that in the bylaws for

1463
00:49:54,720 --> 00:49:56,320
your feedback. People like that as a

1464
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,360
best practice, but recognize there may

1465
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,200
be times where just due to just

1466
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,400
logistics, we need to be able to to have

1467
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:03,800
that flexibility, but that's worked

1468
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,040
really well for us for the last few

1469
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,760
years is to keep the nominations

1470
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,160
membership separate from anybody who's

1471
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,480
applying. It also means that we have to

1472
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,520
close the application process before we

1473
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,120
can open the nominations process so we

1474
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,160
can make sure those lists align. So just

1475
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,200
watch for information via Friday Facts

1476
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:19,840
and then we'll follow up

1477
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,440
with each of the board members to

1478
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:22,800
confirm with you if you're interested in

1479
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,920
running. Again, we ran into that issue a

1480
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:26,360
couple of years ago where a board member

1481
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,440
intended to run again and just missed

1482
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:29,720
the deadline

1483
00:50:29,720 --> 00:50:30,920
and there was hard feelings. We want to

1484
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,120
make sure everybody's clear on what the

1485
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,990
next steps are.

1486
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:36,480
Okay.

1487
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,520
>> Any questions? I will say if you are not

1488
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,320
up and you have never served on a

1489
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:42,480
nominating

1490
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,560
committee before, it's it's a really

1491
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:45,785
interesting and helpful experience.

1492
00:50:45,785 --> 00:50:48,550
[laughter]

1493
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:49,080
» I wish you would.

1494
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,680
>> I have done it twice. Um so

1495
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,280
>> Amazing.

1496
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:54,520
>> Yeah, well

1497
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,480
I I technically done it three times

1498
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,800
since I got to chair it one year. Uh so

1499
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,960
that's also a fun experience.

1500
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:02,760
>> It's dirty.

1501
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,125
>> Um

1502
00:51:04,125 --> 00:51:05,000
>> [laughter]

1503
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,320
>> I don't know. Everyone needs to nominate

1504
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:07,240
someone.

1505
00:51:07,240 --> 00:51:07,840
Uh

1506
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,560
but serving on the nominating committee

1507
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:10,960
I think is a really interesting way to

1508
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,600
just learn and meet new people and

1509
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:14,880
people who have lots of great

1510
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,640
backgrounds. So um

1511
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,160
if your name's not in blue or in gold,

1512
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:20,600
think about whether that's something you

1513
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,320
can fit into your schedule.

1514
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,920
Uh any other discussion, questions about

1515
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:27,480
um

1516
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,790
that item?

1517
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,000
Okay. You're all set.

1518
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,840
>> Can I just add one thing? Can we

1519
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,800
I know you've got a few ex officio here.

1520
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,800
Can we add Mayor Walker at this time?

1521
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,200
>> Come October. Come October.

1522
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:42,720
>> Yes.

1523
00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:44,240
I'm just saying it doesn't show it,

1524
00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:45,680
but I'd love to have him I'm

1525
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,560
>> Yes, so he's still an officer until October and

1526
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,200
then he will slide over to executive

1527
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,840
And he gets to pick and choose

1528
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,000
if he wants to come to meetings or not.

1529
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,320
I had this very conversation with Mayor

1530
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:58,640
Ramsey actually last week. He said,

1531
00:51:58,640 --> 00:51:59,760
"Yeah, I looked at the agenda. I have to

1532
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,110
go to the Sundance Film Festival."

1533
00:52:01,110 --> 00:52:06,340
>> [clears throat and laughter]

1534
00:52:06,350 --> 00:52:06,760
[snorts]

1535
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,720
>> Yeah, so we will look forward

1536
00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:10,880
to We're never going to lose Troy. We'll

1537
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,630
make him pay.

1538
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,360
Any other questions?

1539
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,280
Okay, everyone's appropriately noticed

1540
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:18,440
that.

1541
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,080
Okay.

1542
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:21,640
>> Okay.

1543
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,120
>> Now we'll jump over to Do you have

1544
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,080
anything else in the executive

1545
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,160
director's report you want to cover?

1546
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:28,360
>> Did you want to cover the other stuff in

1547
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:29,680
advocacy?

1548
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,800
>> I just get so excited

1549
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:33,760
Okay.

1550
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,080
And it was only like two minutes after

1551
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:36,960
we started.

1552
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,240
Molly, you were up then to talk to us

1553
00:52:39,240 --> 00:52:41,440
about engagement and annual convention

1554
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:42,760
and LAA

1555
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,120
and property tax and engagement.

1556
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,040
>> What a party. Thank you. Um and not

1557
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:52,846
homelessness actually. I know.

1558
00:52:52,856 --> 00:52:53,520
» [laughter]

1559
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,800
>> Um and I'm going to have a few of our

1560
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,440
teammates join me for this one. Um so

1561
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,840
first with the Salt Palace, um as I'm

1562
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,360
sure you know, you are aware we've been

1563
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:03,760
discussing it. The Salt Palace is going

1564
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,600
to be closing temporarily as they make

1565
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,320
renovations in preparation of the 2034

1566
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:10,400
Olympics.

1567
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:11,960
>> Um Are they making an exception for the

1568
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:13,960
league to still meet?

1569
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,000
>> Oddly, no. They are not making an

1570
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,320
exception that they will halt

1571
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,360
construction and have a space ready for

1572
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,360
us to hold annual each year.

1573
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:26,840
Um and because of that you all gave us during our April

1574
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,400
board meeting about the strategic

1575
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,760
discussion around annual, the feedback

1576
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,520
was to really find a venue um that could

1577
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,720
accommodate annual in its current

1578
00:53:35,720 --> 00:53:38,200
footprint. And Katie has been working

1579
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:39,560
really hard and touring a lot of sites

1580
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,120
to accomplish that.

1581
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:42,640
Um I want to flag for the board that we

1582
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,400
are really just looking at temporary

1583
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,520
solutions. We're not making a permanent

1584
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,840
call on anything and in fact, we're not

1585
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,120
really even making a call today. We

1586
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,240
can't sign any contracts yet. Um, we

1587
00:53:52,240 --> 00:53:54,480
just wanted to give you an update on how

1588
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,720
this process has unfolded and give you

1589
00:53:56,720 --> 00:53:59,280
uh, our staff recommendation. Um, and so

1590
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,360
with that, I will hand it over to Penny

1591
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:02,560
Harley. Yeah.

1592
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,800
>> Um, so I went north, south, east, west

1593
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,920
and toured venues um,

1594
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,800
from Ogden down to Provo.

1595
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:12,960
Um,

1596
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,200
there were some venues that did not fit

1597
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:16,960
our requirements. Um, there are some

1598
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,360
that just don't have availability and

1599
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:19,960
others that are just no longer available

1600
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,200
for us. In April, the board directed to

1601
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,880
keep the annual convention footprint the

1602
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:27,480
same that we've been doing the last few

1603
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:31,200
years and with that direction, the ideal

1604
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:32,960
host would be Provo's Utah Valley

1605
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,320
Convention Center or Sandy's Mountain

1606
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,240
America Expo Center. Um, both are great

1607
00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:40,840
venues that can fit and exhibit hall, a

1608
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,760
general session, and has space for

1609
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,920
workshops and our miscellaneous um,

1610
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,120
meetings [snorts] that we host during

1611
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:48,400
the conference.

1612
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,280
Um, after touring these venues and the

1613
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,240
dates that they have available, uh, the

1614
00:54:53,240 --> 00:54:55,120
staff recommendation would be hosting

1615
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,320
the annual convention at the Mountain

1616
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,080
America Expo Center. The current date

1617
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,880
they have is September 28th to the 30th.

1618
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,800
So, that would be our option one. Um,

1619
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,320
unfortunately, we are not able to do any

1620
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:09,960
booking until August. They have a

1621
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,560
requirement that's a 13-month window.

1622
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:13,960
Um, so we would have to wait and that

1623
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,720
could potentially become unavailable and

1624
00:55:15,720 --> 00:55:18,400
if it does, our second and third option

1625
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:19,360
would be the Utah [snorts] Valley

1626
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,720
Convention Center for October 4th to the

1627
00:55:21,720 --> 00:55:25,640
6th or Mountain America Expo Center

1628
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,960
October 12th to the 14th, if that makes

1629
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,403
sense.

1630
00:55:29,403 --> 00:55:30,480
>> [clears throat]

1631
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,160
>> Thank you so much for your work going up

1632
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,560
and down looking for locations that make

1633
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:36,840
sense.

1634
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,320
Any clarifying questions anyone wants to

1635
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,400
ask about

1636
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:42,720
which is better?

1637
00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:44,080
>> Have you considered just renting a

1638
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:53,990
gigantic tent?

1639
00:55:54,000 --> 00:56:02,190
That's it.

1640
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:03,480
» Look at that.

1641
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,960
And of course our our sympathies and

1642
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:07,520
apologies to our friends at Salt Lake

1643
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,390
that we will

1644
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,160
not be able to be in the capital city

1645
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,760
for our annual until until the Salt

1646
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,830
Palace.

1647
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:19,320
» This is just [clears throat] an

1648
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,400
important thing to note. For as long as

1649
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,480
Roger, me, and others have been around

1650
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:24,440
annual commission has always been in

1651
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:25,480
Salt Lake.

1652
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,200
You as a board, per the constitution

1653
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,280
bylaws, set that location. So, that's

1654
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:30,440
why we're bringing it

1655
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,640
back to you. Well, and we looked at

1656
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,920
every possible option that would

1657
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,680
staff in the city asking for additional

1658
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,040
ideas, uh looking at the other options

1659
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:41,440
in Salt Lake. Historically used the

1660
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,120
Sheraton Hotel, but that will no longer

1661
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:44,680
exist. It's being converted into

1662
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,440
housing. Obviously, we've used the Salt

1663
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,000
Palace. It'll be under the knife for

1664
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,800
several years. The Grand America would

1665
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,080
have sufficient space, but it's both

1666
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,640
cost prohibitive and I think there's a

1667
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,880
perception issue with having

1668
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,600
publicly funded event

1669
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,200
at a facility like Grand America. Great

1670
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,200
facility, but for us it didn't make a

1671
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:03,640
lot of sense. We

1672
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,080
and discussed potentially using campuses

1673
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,360
of higher ed. We looked at the Hyatt

1674
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,160
Hotel. It was unavailable throughout the

1675
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,360
fall of 2027. So, we looked at other

1676
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,880
options to keep that historic precedent

1677
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:17,720
going, but in light of

1678
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,280
the construction and other things, it

1679
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:20,480
opened up the doors to say, "Let's look

1680
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,280
at other facilities." And so, we, as

1681
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,880
Katie said, we shared them all with you.

1682
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:26,440
We looked at St. George again. We looked

1683
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:27,560
at the Little America. We looked at the

1684
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:29,520
Wasatch Front. We looked at

1685
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,440
Ogden. We looked at basically every

1686
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,200
facility in the state and whether they

1687
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,520
can work and that's where we our staff

1688
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,560
narrowed it down to these two. We felt

1689
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,640
checked all the boxes appropriately. We

1690
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,000
can't make a decision today, but we

1691
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,720
wanted to report back before we do have

1692
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,040
to make a decision later this

1693
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:47,520
>> Okay, any

1694
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,680
other questions, feedback?

1695
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,280
>> My question is why are we picking on the

1696
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,480
whole place as a whole again?

1697
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,560
>> I I am certain there are a number of

1698
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,360
different conferences and conventions

1699
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:00,920
that are also

1700
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,120
looking at other places. I I know this

1701
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:04,000
is

1702
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,840
um this is a impactful to Salt Lake. I

1703
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:08,360
mean this will have a great benefit to

1704
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,520
have a remodeled facility and have space

1705
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,440
reconfigured, but it certainly I'm sure

1706
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,160
will be painful for Salt Lake for a

1707
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,600
couple years to see some of these events

1708
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,160
leave downtown

1709
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:20,840
just for a little while

1710
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,240
until we fix it.

1711
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:23,560
Um

1712
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:24,480
so

1713
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,480
>> You need You need thumbs up for us or

1714
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:27,400
just purely

1715
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,040
>> Just information.

1716
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:30,040
>> Yep.

1717
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:33,040
>> Everyone feel like they are informed?

1718
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:33,600
Okay.

1719
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,320
>> Marvelous. I'd love to inform you some

1720
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:36,160
more.

1721
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:36,800
Um

1722
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,520
local administrative advisor, we have an

1723
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,160
update on that. That's obviously been a

1724
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:41,840
topic of conversation for today's

1725
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:42,920
meeting.

1726
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:43,520
Um

1727
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:44,920
as we discussed, the funding was

1728
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,000
restored that was previously cut, that

1729
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:48,760
$500,000.

1730
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,480
$380,000

1731
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,040
goes to the league. We spend that money

1732
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:54,680
and are negotiating the contract with

1733
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,760
GOPB now uh to spend on four things. We

1734
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,640
spend that on an FTE, on our expert

1735
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,800
pool, as well as with our reimbursements

1736
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,520
to the AOGs. We partner really heavily

1737
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:06,880
with the AOGs on this. That's where the

1738
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,560
bulk of the money goes in this program.

1739
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,400
Um and then for travel, conferences,

1740
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,120
professional development, and that those

1741
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,000
sorts of expenses.

1742
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:15,920
Um

1743
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:16,920
I [clears throat] wanted to just flag

1744
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:18,240
for everyone a few highlights of the

1745
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,440
program over this last year.

1746
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:21,400
Um

1747
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:22,920
my favorite came from when we were

1748
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,920
actually testifying on the hill during

1749
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,360
the the to get the funding restored. Uh

1750
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:28,481
Travis Keel, who's the executive

1751
00:59:28,481 --> 00:59:31,520
[clears throat] director of our six, um

1752
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,920
spoke about how he has been uh the

1753
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,680
Central Utah AOG uh director for almost

1754
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,400
20 years and that no program has ever

1755
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,360
existed in the state that has been so as

1756
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,000
impactful for rural Utah as this

1757
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,200
program. And it is because it provides

1758
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,920
hands-on technical assistance. Um

1759
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,200
we as the league do a lot of training.

1760
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,280
We do a lot of consultation. We do

1761
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,560
provide a lot of resources to rural Utah

1762
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,320
as we do all of Utah. Um but this really

1763
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,000
just allows us to get a little bit

1764
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:03,560
deeper and really help get projects

1765
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,200
across the finish line in partnership

1766
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,560
with the AOGs. Um and so we've been

1767
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,920
really grateful for that and hearing uh

1768
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,240
that someone who is working in with

1769
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,000
these communities every day say that

1770
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,440
this is hands-down the best program

1771
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,240
that's existed in 18 years is

1772
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:19,880
uh

1773
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:21,600
pretty remarkable accolades.

1774
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,080
Um second, we are continuing to explore

1775
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:25,600
how we can continue to partner with

1776
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,400
ACEC. That is the American Council of

1777
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,080
Engineering Companies. Um pretty much

1778
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:32,600
none of these communities have an

1779
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,040
engineer on staff. They all consult with

1780
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,000
these engineering companies. And they

1781
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:38,640
reached out to us last year essentially

1782
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,040
saying, "We're noticing a really big

1783
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,160
knowledge gap um with some of these

1784
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,120
communities and at times we almost don't

1785
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,800
know how to help them um because there's

1786
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,760
just so much that we want to

1787
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,040
do and you know, we don't even some of

1788
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:52,960
them don't even have experience like

1789
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,560
writing an RFP so that we could respond

1790
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,280
to it and help them with a road project.

1791
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,640
And so nothing is finalized yet, but

1792
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:01,400
we're continuing to explore how we can

1793
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,520
partner with them uh to provide some

1794
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,080
better engineering resources to rural

1795
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,760
Utah. And then finally, um you know,

1796
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:10,960
we've been saying this as far as our

1797
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:12,280
knowledge is kind of the first of its

1798
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,800
kind in the nation and we have had a lot

1799
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:16,400
of other state leagues from around the

1800
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,760
country um either implement somewhat

1801
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,400
similar technical assistance models or

1802
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,480
look at doing a similar expansion, which

1803
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,960
I think again is very high praise of

1804
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,520
this program. So, again, nothing for you

1805
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:29,920
to vote on, no decisions to make, but

1806
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,200
just some updates for you there. We are

1807
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:33,880
anticipating that that contract will go

1808
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:35,160
into effect at the beginning of the new

1809
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:36,640
fiscal year,

1810
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:40,430
and we're really looking forward to it.

1811
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:41,280
» Yes.

1812
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,760
>> I just want to thank Molly and McKenna

1813
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,840
Marchant, who's our LA

1814
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,560
coordinator, and the associations of

1815
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,400
government government around the state,

1816
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:51,520
and the governor's office of planning

1817
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:52,960
and budget, and the legislature. The

1818
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:54,680
partnership has been

1819
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,760
phenomenal, and I just want to publicly

1820
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,200
thank the OHCS for the the great

1821
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:00,440
partnership. They're the ones whose

1822
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,480
employees funded through this program

1823
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,480
are doing the technical assistance.

1824
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,720
We provide the administrative support,

1825
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,480
they provide the technical assistance.

1826
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:09,880
>> Yep.

1827
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:11,080
Excellent.

1828
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,360
Um jumping on down property tax. So, a

1829
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,080
few things on property tax, and one will

1830
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,080
also delve a little bit into advocacy as

1831
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,000
well. So, if I could get Alexa on deck

1832
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,520
um to talk about the property tax

1833
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:25,840
updates.

1834
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:27,840
Um so,

1835
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,040
based on the conversations we had, we

1836
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:31,240
launched

1837
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,080
our property tax education series,

1838
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:35,440
and I'd love to have Cassidy chat a

1839
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,280
little bit about that, and then Alexa

1840
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,960
provide a quick update on just what we

1841
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:41,280
know about communities going through

1842
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,680
property tax this next year.

1843
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,160
>> Right. So, when we're talking about

1844
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:46,800
property tax resources, we're really

1845
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,080
talking about kind of two different

1846
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,320
buckets. So, the first bucket is our

1847
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,080
compliance resources. So, this is for

1848
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:53,520
our cities to go through and see, "Okay,

1849
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:54,840
what are the new changes we have to

1850
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,280
comply by?" And we have a whole page,

1851
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,480
and a really big shout out to Alexa,

1852
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:00,960
Carrie Nakamura, and then the rest of

1853
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:04,920
the ULCS team ULCS team.

1854
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,360
Yeah, okay on that.

1855
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,320
So far on our compliance page, we have

1856
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,440
over 1,100 views, so we know that people

1857
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,680
are coming back and using that resources

1858
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,440
those resources as we go through the

1859
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:17,560
process.

1860
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,360
Um and we also have over 121 views on

1861
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,720
our webinar that Carrie did. And this is

1862
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,560
on top of our mid-year workshop that we

1863
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:27,000
had that also had a lot of people in the

1864
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,120
room. As far as our communication

1865
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,160
resources go, we have finished out eight

1866
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:34,680
total videos that our um members can use

1867
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:36,320
to communicate with the public.

1868
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,720
Collectively, I know we have over 2,000

1869
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,720
views on all of these videos.

1870
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,400
I'm going to tell you it's probably

1871
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:43,960
higher because a lot of our cities are

1872
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,080
choosing to host these videos. So, we

1873
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:47,520
have a Dropbox for them that they can

1874
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,520
download the videos themselves and then

1875
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,040
post it kind of on their own timeline

1876
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,520
versus just using our YouTube video. So,

1877
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:54,920
something I want to do after the

1878
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:56,840
property tax season is over is get a

1879
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:58,800
report back from those communities. I

1880
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:00,680
know of at least 10 communities that

1881
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,840
have been using our videos regularly.

1882
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:03,880
And then as we look forward to the

1883
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:04,960
future, the nice thing about this

1884
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:06,880
resource is that we'll continue to use

1885
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,240
it in future years. We're hoping to

1886
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:10,720
build out kind of a toolkit to help

1887
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:12,000
create suggestions of like, here's how

1888
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,040
you can use this video, when in the

1889
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:15,800
timeline that you should be posting it

1890
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:17,600
as you're going through property tax,

1891
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,720
and a few things like that.

1892
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:21,320
>> Yeah, just a quick update, too. We've

1893
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,200
also been doing tracking behind the

1894
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,920
scenes to um monitor communities that

1895
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:27,600
are going through truth and taxation.

1896
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:29,320
We've had a few drop out recently, so

1897
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,800
our number now is 60 communities that

1898
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:33,920
are or 60 municipalities, I should say,

1899
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:35,120
that are going through truth and

1900
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,360
taxation this year. Now, we have the

1901
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,200
universe mapped out as today, June 22nd,

1902
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,560
was well, it has to be before June 22nd,

1903
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,560
but the deadline to adopt your tax levy

1904
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:46,520
that exceeds the certified tax rate to

1905
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,200
increase to generate that additional

1906
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,160
revenue, but we've collected property

1907
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,840
tax impact schedules from all 60

1908
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:54,280
communities that are going through truth

1909
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,080
and taxation. And if you'll remember

1910
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:57,960
that those impact schedules were

1911
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,560
required new as of this year um to tell

1912
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:02,160
your story of what the property tax

1913
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,240
increase is used for and how much it

1914
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,360
will how much additional revenue it will

1915
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,480
generate. So, we'll continue collecting

1916
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:09,960
those as they're updated. If your

1917
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:11,600
community updates their property tax

1918
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:13,360
impact schedule, please send it to me.

1919
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:14,800
You'll save me from going through your

1920
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:16,960
city council meeting minutes, which

1921
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:18,910
that's okay. I'll do it anyways, but um

1922
01:05:18,910 --> 01:05:19,600
>> [laughter]

1923
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:21,320
>> Um yeah, so we'll we'll stay on top of

1924
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,200
those and the idea is to be able to use

1925
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:24,800
that information that we gather from

1926
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,160
that those impact schedules to tell like

1927
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,600
the collective city story of why cities

1928
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:31,040
are going through property tax up at the

1929
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:32,920
legislature. One thing that I've been

1930
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:34,600
going through and doing is identifying

1931
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,960
what like what common themes are coming

1932
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:38,880
from the uses of the additional property

1933
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,320
tax revenue. And almost every community

1934
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,240
is in some way raising property taxes

1935
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:45,680
because of public safety costs or um

1936
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:47,800
because of inflationary costs. So, we'll

1937
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:49,360
continue tracking those and be able to

1938
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:50,960
tell our story once the process is

1939
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:52,320
wrapped up.

1940
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:53,680
>> Thank you. These resources have really

1941
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,760
been great. Um I'm not one of the cities

1942
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,040
doing a two-tier taxation rate, but

1943
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,080
um the fire district that my city is a

1944
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,160
part of is, and I have uh been

1945
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:04,760
forwarding all of your resources, in

1946
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:06,640
particular the checklist, to them

1947
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:08,000
because I think these are the only

1948
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:09,600
resources that are out [snorts] there,

1949
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,720
frankly. Um and so whether you're

1950
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:13,930
a city or a county or a special

1951
01:06:13,930 --> 01:06:15,680
[clears throat] district of some kind,

1952
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:16,440
um

1953
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,400
these have been really timely resources

1954
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:19,760
to get out there with the with the new

1955
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:21,280
state law. So,

1956
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,040
thank you for putting those together,

1957
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:24,960
not just for cities to use, but for the

1958
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:28,120
other entities that we're all a part of.

1959
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:29,720
>> Excellent. And then last but not least,

1960
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,560
um we are with Meg's retirement, uh

1961
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,160
we're very sad to lose Meg, um but

1962
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:36,760
pivoting and trying to explore what this

1963
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:38,960
can mean for our staff moving forward.

1964
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,280
Um in our last board meeting, we

1965
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:42,440
discussed the creation of a new

1966
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,760
engagement coordinator position. We have

1967
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:46,160
been interviewing some stellar

1968
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,960
candidates for that role. We have um

1969
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,520
more interviews this and we are hoping

1970
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,240
to extend an offer and have someone

1971
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:56,080
begin uh mid-July. So, if there's any

1972
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:57,520
questions about that, happy to talk

1973
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,200
about it, but wanted to just give you a

1974
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:00,640
quick update on how that process was

1975
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:06,270
going.

1976
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,320
» Okay.

1977
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:09,840
Questions on that?

1978
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,200
Okay. you both and really the resources

1979
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:16,350
have been excellent.

1980
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,680
We will move on to advocacy report. But

1981
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:20,600
I want to know what you are thinking

1982
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:21,640
about this advocacy report.

1983
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:23,080
>> Oh, I'm flabbergasted.

1984
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:24,520
>> I have never done this.

1985
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:30,110
>> Presidential City for the win.

1986
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,400
» Okay, well we will turn our time over to

1987
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:33,760
a combination of

1988
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:35,360
Justin and Jared

1989
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:36,720
and

1990
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:38,840
to talk about our advocacy report and

1991
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:40,160
I'm sure that we'll have chiming in from

1992
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:41,200
others as well.

1993
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:42,520
>> Yeah, uh Jared, let's have you start

1994
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,321
out.

1995
01:07:44,321 --> 01:07:49,510
>> [snorts]

1996
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:52,120
» Alexa, Molly, and Cassidy are a lot more

1997
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,160
pleasant than I am, so

1998
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,640
this is what you get. Um so

1999
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:01,160
last board meeting we had discussed the

2000
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:03,200
amicus um

2001
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,920
the amicus brief and

2002
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,360
the request from Salt Lake City

2003
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,840
to have the league join on. There have

2004
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:11,840
been

2005
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:13,960
uh quite a few different requests

2006
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,480
throughout the years. Um

2007
01:08:16,480 --> 01:08:18,600
some we have signed on to, some we have

2008
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,839
not signed on to, whether that be

2009
01:08:20,839 --> 01:08:23,799
through because of process, uh the

2010
01:08:23,799 --> 01:08:28,160
timelines of the filing dates, um and so

2011
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:31,160
as as you may remember we we signed on

2012
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:34,839
to the main case that talked about

2013
01:08:34,839 --> 01:08:36,400
governmental immunity

2014
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:40,440
um in the past and and so we've got this

2015
01:08:40,440 --> 01:08:42,839
request like like I brought up last

2016
01:08:42,839 --> 01:08:43,759
time.

2017
01:08:43,759 --> 01:08:47,480
Um the the question that the

2018
01:08:47,480 --> 01:08:49,200
appellate court is considering is

2019
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:52,000
whether cities can use

2020
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:54,640
spend impact fees collected under one

2021
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:57,440
impact fee facility plan

2022
01:08:57,440 --> 01:08:57,682
uh

2023
01:08:57,682 --> 01:08:58,200
>> [clears throat]

2024
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,880
>> for projects that were were included

2025
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:04,600
under a later amended plan.

2026
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:05,640
Um

2027
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,720
and so uh last board meeting uh the

2028
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:13,160
request was bring back uh UAC uh was

2029
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:15,839
going to be filing an amicus brief. Uh

2030
01:09:15,839 --> 01:09:17,960
bring back UAC's brief and we'll review

2031
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:21,680
it decide uh in this board meeting

2032
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,240
whether we want to sign on that brief or

2033
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:25,480
not.

2034
01:09:25,480 --> 01:09:26,920
Um

2035
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:30,240
we recently found out that UAC is no

2036
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,839
longer going to be

2037
01:09:32,839 --> 01:09:36,400
filing a brief independently. Um after

2038
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:40,839
surveying their members, they found that

2039
01:09:40,839 --> 01:09:41,799
uh

2040
01:09:41,799 --> 01:09:45,319
it was it was uh

2041
01:09:45,319 --> 01:09:46,920
only had a few members that were

2042
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,720
concerned about the the policy issues.

2043
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:50,400
Uh

2044
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,319
I'm not sure whether they will be

2045
01:09:52,319 --> 01:09:56,400
signing on to the other amicus briefs.

2046
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,560
But that's that's kind of where that was

2047
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:02,280
a recent development that happened. Uh

2048
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:05,720
we found out about and so we immediately

2049
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:07,480
uh reached out to

2050
01:10:07,480 --> 01:10:10,040
both IMLA, which is the International

2051
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,840
Municipal Lawyers Association,

2052
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:15,360
who will be filing an amicus brief

2053
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,760
uh that we found out about and also

2054
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,440
Provo City. So those are the outstanding

2055
01:10:20,440 --> 01:10:23,360
amicus briefs that uh if the board

2056
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:26,160
decides to sign on, they would need to

2057
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,880
it would be one of those two.

2058
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,240
Uh the IMLA brief

2059
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:36,000
uh discusses uh a few items, primarily

2060
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,200
responding to another amicus brief on

2061
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:39,520
the other side.

2062
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:41,560
Provo City uh

2063
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:44,160
their brief is

2064
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,880
really in two different areas. One is a

2065
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:49,640
technical analysis of the impact

2066
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:50,760
act.

2067
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:52,960
And uh

2068
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:57,600
and then the other is a uh discussion of

2069
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,400
reimbursements on impact fees if a

2070
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:01,720
negative

2071
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:05,400
uh decision came down from the court.

2072
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:06,440
Um

2073
01:11:06,440 --> 01:11:09,360
so we those are the outstanding uh

2074
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:10,520
briefs.

2075
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:13,320
Both of them are still in draft form uh

2076
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:18,720
given various circumstances that uh

2077
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,400
that are being uh dealt with through in

2078
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,200
Provo City uh some illnesses, medical

2079
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:27,800
issues uh that have delayed the amicus

2080
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:31,120
brief from uh getting to a final form.

2081
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:34,400
And so right now we don't have those

2082
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:38,320
final form uh amicus briefs for you.

2083
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:39,680
Um

2084
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:44,240
and so right now the the deadline to

2085
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:47,200
file for Salt Lake City's uh principal

2086
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,800
brief is on July 7th.

2087
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:51,280
Um

2088
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,680
the amicus briefs have to be filed 7

2089
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:56,800
days after the principal brief is filed

2090
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:58,200
with the court.

2091
01:11:58,200 --> 01:11:58,840
Uh

2092
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:00,920
if that's before, then we'd have even

2093
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:02,480
less time.

2094
01:12:02,480 --> 01:12:05,000
Uh I don't So if Salt Lake City files it

2095
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:08,120
on July 7th, we'd have till July 14th to

2096
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:11,120
decide whether or not to file the amicus

2097
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:12,320
brief.

2098
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:15,880
Um so that is the current status of

2099
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:17,160
where we're at.

2100
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:18,520
Um

2101
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,240
and

2102
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:24,440
the issues that uh and and I believe the

2103
01:12:24,440 --> 01:12:26,720
board members have been given

2104
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:28,680
uh

2105
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,440
the uh Salt Lake City's brief of what

2106
01:12:31,440 --> 01:12:33,360
they intend to file.

2107
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:34,960
Um if you've had a chance to read it,

2108
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:38,520
it's it's a uh a technical argument

2109
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:40,080
based upon the interpretation of the

2110
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,280
impact fee act.

2111
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:44,000
Um

2112
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:45,560
and so that's that's kind of where we're

2113
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:46,920
at. Um

2114
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:48,160
it's

2115
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,720
we're

2116
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,080
the process is is frankly

2117
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:54,920
in the game. Um

2118
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:56,760
it's it's

2119
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:57,720
uh

2120
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,320
we don't have those amicus briefs to

2121
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:03,040
give to you right now.

2122
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,720
In their in their form that uh for the

2123
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:07,680
board.

2124
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:09,720
>> So, in terms of

2125
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,000
any uh

2126
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,960
indication from the board on

2127
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,080
direction or

2128
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:18,640
support for a different approach with

2129
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:20,040
the different

2130
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:20,600
uh

2131
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:24,440
amicus briefs that are out there. Do you mean to do that or more just

2132
01:13:24,440 --> 01:13:26,960
informational report?

2133
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,720
>> Um well, this would be the last board

2134
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,000
meeting uh because there's no board

2135
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,920
meeting in July. So,

2136
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:37,880
I I think a decision at least for us

2137
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:42,520
needs to be made. The The other um

2138
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:46,080
possibility is if the board decides

2139
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:47,760
um

2140
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:51,080
to give the uh executive board the the

2141
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:51,800
uh

2142
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:55,880
ability to file on um without having

2143
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:58,080
another board meeting.

2144
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,640
I think that they under the policy have

2145
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,680
that ability, but again, we're running

2146
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:05,760
up against a July

2147
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,160
14th deadline to file

2148
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:10,240
to join an amicus.

2149
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:11,960
>> Didn't we already make a decision on

2150
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:13,520
that?

2151
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,000
>> No, we we uh the the board wanted us to

2152
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:19,440
come back uh with the UAC brief.

2153
01:14:19,440 --> 01:14:22,040
Um but they are no longer

2154
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:25,880
going to be filing that brief.

2155
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:27,840
>> If I might, jurors,

2156
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:29,000
pretty job of looking at the job

2157
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:30,520
description, but the sort of play field

2158
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,920
has really shifted on this on this issue

2159
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:35,000
in the sense that

2160
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,600
it started off as a broad policy

2161
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,000
debate, it's really turned into a really

2162
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:40,640
high technical discussion that I'm sort

2163
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:42,400
of like having right now.

2164
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:44,280
And uh it doesn't mean it's not an

2165
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:45,520
important issue.

2166
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:47,640
Yeah, but to me it's a sweeping issue I

2167
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,600
would say for our policies

2168
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:52,160
That's a

2169
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,560
At least for me, that sort of changed.

2170
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:57,240
>> So, one of the Yeah, so Roger brings up

2171
01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:59,320
a good point. The um

2172
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,560
the court, the reason it's a technical

2173
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:04,520
argument in Salt Lake City is because

2174
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:07,080
that was the decision that was made by

2175
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:10,320
the lower court. So, they're responding

2176
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:13,000
to lower court's decision because that's

2177
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,440
all they can respond to.

2178
01:15:15,440 --> 01:15:18,320
Um and so, it

2179
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:21,480
I I uh I would be making the exact same

2180
01:15:21,480 --> 01:15:23,400
arguments based upon the

2181
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:24,120
go.

2182
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:25,720
Um

2183
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:26,520
Yeah.

2184
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,640
>> But, but in terms of

2185
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:30,280
cooperation with the big Salt Lake City

2186
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,720
in terms of broader policy this case

2187
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:33,840
isn't that now.

2188
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:35,960
>> So, Jared, so

2189
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:36,960
where we're at right now with the

2190
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:38,080
different

2191
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:40,680
briefs or lack of briefs, um amicus says

2192
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,480
or MSI, whatever it is. Um

2193
01:15:43,480 --> 01:15:44,600
what do we need from the board right now

2194
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:45,520
then?

2195
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:47,360
>> I I read what you said, just I have no

2196
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:49,760
idea what it said.

2197
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:52,680
>> Decision of whether the board wants to

2198
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:57,000
join one of the other amicus briefs.

2199
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,800
>> That we don't have yet.

2200
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:01,920
>> So, so remind us we have to include this

2201
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:03,040
Provo.

2202
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,480
>> Provo City and IMLA, which is the

2203
01:16:05,480 --> 01:16:08,200
International Municipal Lawyers

2204
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:10,520
Association.

2205
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:12,120
>> So,

2206
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,560
may I ask if it's that because they're

2207
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:16,640
looking at the broader

2208
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,560
effect of of

2209
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:25,400
how impact fees are described and this Salt Lake City case, if it's

2210
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:27,600
decided one way versus another, would

2211
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:29,400
that have an adverse effect on future

2212
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:32,400
judgments or how would that affect

2213
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,480
a larger, broader

2214
01:16:34,480 --> 01:16:35,800
group of cities?

2215
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,840
>> The answer to your first question with

2216
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,080
IMLA is

2217
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:43,840
merely responding to another amicus

2218
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,800
that's already been filed on the other

2219
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,480
side. So someone on the other side filed

2220
01:16:48,480 --> 01:16:52,120
an amicus and they aren't necessarily

2221
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:54,520
um

2222
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:56,000
The issues that were brought up in the

2223
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,520
other amicus is what they are responding

2224
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:01,040
to. It's not the underlying brief of

2225
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:02,640
Salt Lake City

2226
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:04,240
for uh

2227
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:05,720
um

2228
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:07,280
the opposing party.

2229
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:08,840
So

2230
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,200
that's Emulous' brief.

2231
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,560
The other question that you had is what

2232
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:18,440
are the ramifications if there is a uh

2233
01:17:18,440 --> 01:17:22,000
a negative uh ruling against Salt Lake

2234
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,360
City.

2235
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:27,240
We're not quite sure where or how many

2236
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,040
other cities

2237
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,680
use impact fees

2238
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:33,120
for

2239
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,040
projects that were only included in a

2240
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:38,760
subsequent impact fee facilities plan.

2241
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,480
We don't have that information.

2242
01:17:41,480 --> 01:17:44,550
um

2243
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:46,920
» So Jared, it sounds like Emulous may be

2244
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,040
not the right fit for us.

2245
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:49,440
>> No.

2246
01:17:49,440 --> 01:17:50,800
>> So we should probably maybe take that

2247
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:52,800
off the list of considerations. So it's

2248
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:53,840
Provo

2249
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:55,040
>> And you actually have a brief, so it's

2250
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:56,680
really the Provo brief brief is what's

2251
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:57,408
left.

2252
01:17:57,408 --> 01:17:58,320
>> [laughter]

2253
01:17:58,320 --> 01:17:59,200
>> So

2254
01:17:59,200 --> 01:17:59,720
yeah, go ahead.

2255
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:01,320
>> Is this Is this Is this a possibility? I

2256
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:03,360
mean I it's it's very difficult to sign

2257
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:05,640
on to something we don't have.

2258
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:08,240
Especially given the legal and technical

2259
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,640
nature and and even though we I'm sure I

2260
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:13,440
have great faith in Provo's legal team.

2261
01:18:13,440 --> 01:18:14,280
Um

2262
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:16,200
would it be possible for us to make this

2263
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,600
something that we delegate to advice

2264
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:20,400
from Jared back to the executive

2265
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,920
committee make a determination

2266
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:24,320
around

2267
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:26,480
I I'm sure this is going to fall like

2268
01:18:26,480 --> 01:18:26,840
>> Right.

2269
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:28,200
in the thick of everyone's 250

2270
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:29,040
minutes.

2271
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:30,960
>> That cuz timing-wise that is the thing.

2272
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:32,124
It's like they're falling

2273
01:18:32,124 --> 01:18:33,080
[clears throat] in the middle of July is

2274
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:34,000
what we're saying, right?

2275
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:34,240
>> Yes. [snorts]

2276
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:35,320
>> Before we meet again.

2277
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:39,240
>> So yeah, I think that is basically what

2278
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:40,600
we're asking is should we should we

2279
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:42,400
delegate some authority to the executive

2280
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:43,680
officers

2281
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:45,360
to make a determination once we have

2282
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:49,230
something to make a determination on.

2283
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:50,960
» It does seem like

2284
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:54,000
to me it would just seem like a little

2285
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:55,920
to vote to join Provo when we don't know

2286
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:57,600
what it says yet.

2287
01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:58,560
I mean like what if it said something

2288
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,599
about like cougars?

2289
01:19:01,599 --> 01:19:02,200
>> [laughter]

2290
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:06,910
>> I am moved I am moved to join.

2291
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:10,400
» I'm I'm supportive of that the principle

2292
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:12,000
the cougars also but supportive of the

2293
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:13,560
principle

2294
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:16,840
to delegate authority to participate in

2295
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:18,520
litigation

2296
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:20,960
pending we have information and delegate

2297
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:22,720
that to the executive council and we can

2298
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:25,600
format that as a

2299
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:27,240
motion.

2300
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:27,800
>> I'm supportive

2301
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:28,200
>> [laughter]

2302
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:31,840
>> and add I think I think that we

2303
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,160
sign on is probably

2304
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:37,440
a fairly important detail. Uh

2305
01:19:37,440 --> 01:19:39,280
and I'll call it an amicus brief just to

2306
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:41,480
add another premise to it.

2307
01:19:41,480 --> 01:19:42,520
>> Love it.

2308
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:44,200
>> I think it's important that we sign on

2309
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:46,000
if we can in some way so if we can do

2310
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:48,840
that as Councilmember Eggbert suggested

2311
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:51,040
I would support that as well.

2312
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,120
>> Okay. So, it sounds like we have a

2313
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:56,200
motion to do that delegation and review

2314
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:57,880
consideration from Councilmember Eggbert

2315
01:19:57,880 --> 01:19:59,320
and I have a second from Councilmember

2316
01:19:59,320 --> 01:19:59,880
Eggbert.

2317
01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:01,560
>> Eggbert.

2318
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:02,920
>> So, we have a motion from Councilmember

2319
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:04,880
Eggbert and a second from our city

2320
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:08,640
manager uh Councilmember

2321
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:09,800
>> I'm seeing we're going to change his

2322
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:11,360
name actually so it's not

2323
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:12,720
>> Yeah.

2324
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:14,305
>> Uh

2325
01:20:14,305 --> 01:20:15,560
>> [laughter]

2326
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:16,320
>> Is there any

2327
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:17,200
>> Yeah, can I move on to

2328
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:18,840
>> any additional discussion to that

2329
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:20,960
motion?

2330
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:22,880
Seeing none I'll call for the vote. All

2331
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,040
in favor of the motion please say aye.

2332
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:26,800
>> Aye.

2333
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:28,600
>> Any opposed?

2334
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:30,440
All right, Jerry, sounds like you've got

2335
01:20:30,440 --> 01:20:30,880
>> Thank you.

2336
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:32,840
>> your marching orders there.

2337
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:33,400
you, right?

2338
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:34,800
>> Perfect. All right, let's talk about a

2339
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:36,200
couple things here. One really quick on

2340
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:38,240
the advisory groups. We talked about

2341
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:39,640
this at the last board meeting in a

2342
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:41,760
mid-year. Um

2343
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:42,960
One just want to make you aware that we

2344
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:45,080
do have a housing meeting coming up. Um

2345
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:46,960
a week from today. Uh we have an

2346
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:48,960
economic development one coming up this

2347
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,680
Thursday. Um on the housing one, one of

2348
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:53,320
the things we had talked about is that

2349
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:54,560
we'd like to have board members a part

2350
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:55,920
of all the advisory groups. So then when

2351
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:57,880
we get to session um you'll have the

2352
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:00,280
background on things. Uh can step up if

2353
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,080
we need you on different things. Um good

2354
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:03,560
news is on the ones that are coming up,

2355
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:05,000
we do have board members involved in all

2356
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,000
of them. On housing and land use, we

2357
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:08,880
have most of you involved in that one.

2358
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:12,480
So um along with 124 of your friends. Um

2359
01:21:12,480 --> 01:21:14,280
who are part of that email list. So no

2360
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:16,200
shortage of people on that one. Um

2361
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:17,480
economic development, we have board

2362
01:21:17,480 --> 01:21:18,960
members involved in that one. Bill board

2363
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:21,280
boards, we have Amy Shumway, so we have

2364
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:22,920
board a board member involved in that

2365
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:24,880
one. Um

2366
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:26,880
and we will have more coming. So these

2367
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:28,560
groups later on, kids, impact fees,

2368
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:31,200
property tax, water. Um we're waiting

2369
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:32,960
for a few more things to clarify on

2370
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:34,640
them. Um we're going to talk a little

2371
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:37,040
bit about impact fees during uh economic

2372
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:38,800
development anyway. But is there

2373
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:41,120
anything that we're we're missing

2374
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:42,920
basically giving the opportunity now to

2375
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:44,360
say, man, there's a group we really need

2376
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:45,880
around whatever it is that we're not

2377
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:48,320
thinking of. Um and we want to ask you

2378
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:49,640
now so we don't get to November and say,

2379
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:51,400
man, you know what we really wish we

2380
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:53,480
would have spent the summer on is you

2381
01:21:53,480 --> 01:21:55,840
know, X problem. So one planning the

2382
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:57,080
question, if there's nothing, that's

2383
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,040
fine. But if you think of another group,

2384
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:00,680
another issue that we should be jumping

2385
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:02,920
on top of um sooner or later, please let

2386
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:04,680
us know. Um there are always the things

2387
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:06,760
we have to respond to when we get to

2388
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:08,440
session. There are issues we don't

2389
01:22:08,440 --> 01:22:10,240
always see coming or bills that are

2390
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:11,520
they're protected for the whole time,

2391
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:13,240
but we want to get ahead of whatever we

2392
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:14,320
can. So if there's something that's

2393
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:17,120
missing or if there is a group that you

2394
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:18,720
have not volunteered to be a part of,

2395
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:20,520
but really want to be a part of

2396
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:22,640
let me know. Um that's a quick ask on

2397
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:23,480
that one.

2398
01:22:23,480 --> 01:22:24,760
>> Nobody's talking about it, but maybe

2399
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:26,080
data centers.

2400
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:27,360
>> Yeah, data centers has not come up at

2401
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:28,720
all. Data centers will come up if you

2402
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:30,520
look at the draft agenda, I think which

2403
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,480
is you can scroll down, Nick. Uh draft

2404
01:22:32,480 --> 01:22:34,000
agenda we have on economic development,

2405
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:35,040
that is one of the things we have on

2406
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:37,160
there. Um there are um

2407
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:38,520
every

2408
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:40,280
not every group, but a lot of different

2409
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:42,840
groups and entities are building out

2410
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:44,440
different discussion points around data

2411
01:22:44,440 --> 01:22:47,040
centers. Um so we'll certainly try to

2412
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:48,440
wrangle some of that and be a part of

2413
01:22:48,440 --> 01:22:49,760
those discussions.

2414
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:51,120
>> I I think the real problem is they've

2415
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:53,480
got a billion acres of it in one county,

2416
01:22:53,480 --> 01:22:55,360
but everybody's got it in their own fair

2417
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:57,440
counties across the state, so

2418
01:22:57,440 --> 01:22:58,760
>> There are There are many more data

2419
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:00,120
centers than just the one up in Box

2420
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,040
Elder that are coming online.

2421
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:04,200
>> I'm I'm afraid the information from that

2422
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:06,360
one may affect all of us.

2423
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:08,080
>> We know So, one of the things I'll I'll

2424
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:10,360
mention there is the Central Valley

2425
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:12,480
Water Conservancy District, for example,

2426
01:23:12,480 --> 01:23:14,280
is putting together some FAQs and some

2427
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:16,520
information around questions you should

2428
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:19,080
ask if a data center is proposed in your

2429
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:21,120
area, just from the water perspective.

2430
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:22,320
Just one of the things that comes up a

2431
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:24,720
lot. So, as we get these resources and

2432
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:28,640
as we uh see these coming from other entities, other people with

2433
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:30,760
expertise, we'll try to promulgate those

2434
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:32,920
out and then I I would imagine at some

2435
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:35,160
time point we will either have a webinar

2436
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:36,920
or trainings at at annual or whatever it

2437
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:38,680
is that deal with some of that as well.

2438
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:39,840
>> Well, I find it interesting that some

2439
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:41,280
people think that the communities that

2440
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:43,360
have those have not asked those

2441
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,800
questions and taken that into account.

2442
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:47,600
>> Yes, as if no one's thinking about that.

2443
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:48,160
>> Exactly.

2444
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:49,320
>> Um

2445
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:50,480
So, yeah, Camp, go ahead.

2446
01:23:50,480 --> 01:23:52,360
>> Just jumping on the economic economic

2447
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:54,160
development piece first and the housing

2448
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:57,120
piece second. These advisory subgroups

2449
01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:58,680
uh we've got a decent number of

2450
01:23:58,680 --> 01:23:59,760
volunteers or people who want to

2451
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:01,400
participate in, which is great. The

2452
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:03,160
reason we put the draft agendas in here

2453
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:04,840
is they're still draft. Like

2454
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:06,120
even from the time we finished the

2455
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,120
packet on Thursday, we actually made

2456
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:10,120
some adjustments to them.

2457
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:13,360
The Economic Development Council, which

2458
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,400
the board appointed me to represent uh

2459
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:17,240
the League on, will have its first

2460
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:20,040
official meeting on July 1st.

2461
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:22,120
The Political Subdivisions Interim

2462
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:23,480
Committee on Extending Tax Increment

2463
01:24:23,480 --> 01:24:26,160
Financing, Adam our first organizing

2464
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:28,760
meeting at the end of May.

2465
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:30,360
The meeting is not scheduled to meet

2466
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,240
again until August because we're waiting

2467
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:34,200
for some data to come in.

2468
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:36,000
So, part of our objective in this first

2469
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:37,360
economic development advisory group

2470
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:39,040
meeting is just to make sure that people

2471
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,120
in in the room know the universe. You

2472
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:42,200
know, we've

2473
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:44,480
listed our existing policy and economic

2474
01:24:44,480 --> 01:24:46,000
development and policy resolutions that

2475
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,480
we've adopted in the past.

2476
01:24:48,480 --> 01:24:50,280
I'll have a lot more after that. Our

2477
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:52,960
first meeting requested to consider and

2478
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:55,040
Justin I were in the room last week and

2479
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:56,800
I think it's fair to say every committee

2480
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:58,720
at the capital talked about data centers

2481
01:24:58,720 --> 01:24:59,920
and so forth.

2482
01:24:59,920 --> 01:25:01,120
>> Every committee is a data center

2483
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:01,680
committee now.

2484
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:02,880
>> Every Every committee these days is a

2485
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:04,240
data center committee. On the On the

2486
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:07,680
housing side, can you slide up to the housing one?

2487
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:09,280
thing we noticed as we were going

2488
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:11,680
through our existing policy resolutions

2489
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:14,520
and League board principles is that we

2490
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:17,200
actually don't have anything specific on

2491
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:19,000
impact fees. Now, we've taken positions

2492
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:22,400
on impact fees legislation for years

2493
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:24,280
and we have our general board principles

2494
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:26,640
on housing around affordable home

2495
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:28,520
ownership, sustainable infrastructure,

2496
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:31,280
quality of life. In terms of our key

2497
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:32,920
principles on impact fees, the

2498
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:34,560
resolutions that our members have

2499
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:36,680
endorsed in years past have been silent

2500
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:37,840
on impact fees. So, that's one thing we

2501
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:39,160
plan to talk about with the advisory

2502
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:41,200
group is putting together the core

2503
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:42,640
principles on impact fees that we can

2504
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:44,720
bring back to the board to endorse while

2505
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:46,720
we're awaiting the legislative audit on

2506
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:48,440
impact fees. And our sources have told

2507
01:25:48,440 --> 01:25:52,560
us that that audit is unlikely to go

2508
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:55,160
public earlier than October.

2509
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:57,080
So, it'll be October, maybe even

2510
01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:59,440
November, which means you have this big

2511
01:25:59,440 --> 01:26:01,880
audit with lots of considerations coming

2512
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:03,280
out of it. Senator Muslim has already

2513
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:05,120
said he wants to pull together a work

2514
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:06,960
group and he's already volunteered

2515
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:08,520
League staff to help with the work

2516
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:09,200
group.

2517
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:10,920
And there'll be a bunch of meetings

2518
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,680
after that audit. So, October, November,

2519
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:16,524
December. So, right now is a good time

2520
01:26:16,524 --> 01:26:16,800
>> [snorts]

2521
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:18,360
>> to make sure we're all aligned on those

2522
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:21,320
core principles around impact fees.

2523
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:22,480
There's also going to be a lot of

2524
01:26:22,480 --> 01:26:25,280
discussion about everything centers and

2525
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:27,600
the alignment between state funding and

2526
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:30,200
land use. So, those aren't spelled out

2527
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:31,840
in this subgroup, but those are part of

2528
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:33,120
the discussions I had with you just last

2529
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:34,000
week.

2530
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:35,800
>> On impact fees, the state already

2531
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:38,600
requires we have an independent

2532
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:39,920
firm

2533
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:41,600
give us

2534
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:42,360
a

2535
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:44,400
What's the word? Consultant on it. And

2536
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:45,880
we take those

2537
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:47,600
and

2538
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:49,480
West Jordan or like other cities or like

2539
01:26:49,480 --> 01:26:50,960
West Jordan,

2540
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:52,800
the rates that we get from them that we

2541
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:54,920
are able to charge for impact fees, we

2542
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:57,960
don't charge much less than that. If

2543
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:00,280
they push this, is that going to end up

2544
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:02,320
changing it and making it so that

2545
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:04,720
we charge what the consultant says we

2546
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:07,040
can charge for impact fees? And are they

2547
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:08,440
going to

2548
01:27:08,440 --> 01:27:10,040
kind of

2549
01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:11,880
blow up and make it go backwards what

2550
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:13,920
they're trying to accomplish instead of

2551
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:15,680
just researching and going and look at

2552
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:17,120
what we they've already asked us to do

2553
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:18,600
when they see that we are actually

2554
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:20,000
playing the game the right way?

2555
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:21,720
>> I'm going to answer that question in

2556
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:23,640
light of what happened in the political

2557
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:26,040
subdivisions in Utah last week.

2558
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:27,480
Justin, Jared, and others who talked

2559
01:27:27,480 --> 01:27:28,880
with the auditors, you're welcome to

2560
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:30,200
chime in as well from based on the

2561
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:31,200
conversations you've had with the

2562
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:33,960
legislative auditors.

2563
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:35,600
In the House and the political

2564
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:37,040
subdivisions interim committee last

2565
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:38,880
week, which is joint committee of House

2566
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:40,960
and Senate members,

2567
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:43,160
Representative Ray Ward presented an

2568
01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:45,640
idea on impact fees. It was purely that,

2569
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:47,960
just an idea. No legislation yet, so we

2570
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:50,280
don't take positions on ideas or our

2571
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:51,960
formal positions.

2572
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:53,680
But I got up to testify afterwards to

2573
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:55,640
explain the legal framework of impact

2574
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:56,760
fees because I thought it was important

2575
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:58,640
for the committee to understand

2576
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:00,080
the ins and outs of impact fees under

2577
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:01,560
current state law.

2578
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:03,520
Then Chris Camp got up from Ivory Homes

2579
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,720
got up afterwards. And Chris and I were

2580
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:07,680
pretty united in explaining what the

2581
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:09,120
legal framework was.

2582
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:10,360
>> Which you enjoyed for just a moment

2583
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:11,320
because that is not happening.

2584
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:12,560
>> I was going to say,

2585
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:14,160
is it the same, Chris?

2586
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:15,560
>> Yeah, no, it was great. It's early in

2587
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:16,840
terms of the audit. We have lots of

2588
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:18,720
time.

2589
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:20,200
But Chris and I were both trying to make

2590
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:21,880
the same point. Like this is the legal

2591
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:24,200
framework that we all accept and

2592
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:25,760
understand.

2593
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:27,680
And

2594
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:29,720
the legislators on the committee were

2595
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:32,120
asking really good questions about the

2596
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:33,960
balance of current residents paying for

2597
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:36,040
growth versus new residents paying for

2598
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:37,920
growth. And should it How much are

2599
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:39,480
impact fees based on a reasonable

2600
01:28:39,480 --> 01:28:42,320
analysis and a reasonableness standard?

2601
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:43,800
Are they meeting the Nolan Dolan

2602
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:45,760
exaction? Senator Moskowitz is on that

2603
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:47,160
committee. He's I've got this workgroup

2604
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:48,320
and I spent a lot of time over the last

2605
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,080
year. He pulled his bill back last

2606
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:53,160
session that was focused on impact fees

2607
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:55,720
in part to allow this space to occur

2608
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:57,480
with the impact fee audit. So he said as

2609
01:28:57,480 --> 01:28:58,640
soon as that audit is done, I'm going to

2610
01:28:58,640 --> 01:28:59,800
pull my group back together and we'll

2611
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:01,760
get we'll get back to work on it. So it

2612
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:04,080
was it was actually a very sophisticated

2613
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:06,800
discussion in that committee.

2614
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:08,200
And I think right now everybody's in a

2615
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:10,600
bit of a holding pattern and so we see

2616
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:12,880
what comes out of the audit.

2617
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:15,320
And I think there's an acknowledgement

2618
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:17,200
from someone like Chris on private side

2619
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:20,040
that most cities are doing it right,

2620
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:21,480
checking the boxes, and following the

2621
01:29:21,480 --> 01:29:23,520
process as spelled out.

2622
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:24,920
And I think one of the questions that

2623
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:26,680
the audit's going to look at is do we

2624
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:28,920
have the right process?

2625
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:30,560
That gets to the role of consultants and

2626
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:31,600
everything else. Those are some of the

2627
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:32,640
themes that have come up in our

2628
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:34,520
conversations as well. Just anything

2629
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:35,840
else you want to add from

2630
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:38,240
>> And the only thing I'll add to that is

2631
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:40,320
yeah, the role of consultants

2632
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:41,760
is something the auditors are looking

2633
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:44,000
at. Both the recommendations they make

2634
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,280
and then some of what

2635
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:47,440
and I don't know what the audit will say

2636
01:29:47,440 --> 01:29:49,440
to this effect or not, but some of the

2637
01:29:49,440 --> 01:29:54,230
idea that the consultants um

2638
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:55,160
some people feel like they have an

2639
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:57,440
incentive to suggest impact fees because

2640
01:29:57,440 --> 01:30:00,400
that is their business. And so if if you

2641
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:01,960
make a procedure for them to do it and

2642
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:03,360
that creates businesses for them to come

2643
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:04,440
in and do it and there's not that many

2644
01:30:04,440 --> 01:30:05,720
of them around.

2645
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:07,720
Um so the number of consultants that are

2646
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:10,200
out there is it is a function of the

2647
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:12,160
market, but I don't know what it's going

2648
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:13,640
to look like, but they've certainly been

2649
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:14,920
having discussions around those and

2650
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:17,040
talking to those consultants. So, I I

2651
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:17,960
guess in answer to your ultimate

2652
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:19,360
question, I'll be shocked if the

2653
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:21,080
recommendation comes back and says, "You

2654
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:22,480
have to go with what the consultant says

2655
01:30:22,480 --> 01:30:24,000
and nothing lower."

2656
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:26,000
>> I wanted to um

2657
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:27,360
make sure everyone understands too what

2658
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:28,760
type of an audit we're talking about,

2659
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:29,920
just because

2660
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:30,360
>> Mhm.

2661
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:31,720
>> often when you say the word audit,

2662
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:34,040
people think you're doing a like a

2663
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:35,360
financial review

2664
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:36,520
>> Like a forensic audit or something, I

2665
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:36,920
guess.

2666
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:38,560
>> scatters [snorts] and and and things

2667
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:40,680
like that. Uh, just to be clear, this is

2668
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:44,520
a an audit by the office of

2669
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:44,960
um

2670
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:46,080
>> The state auditor general.

2671
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:48,640
>> auditor general's office. And while they

2672
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:51,080
still sometimes look at uh you know, how

2673
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:53,360
money is being spent and did it comport

2674
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:55,000
with the requirements for how money is

2675
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:56,520
being spent, they're actually looking

2676
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:59,040
more at policy and process.

2677
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:02,160
Um, and um often

2678
01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:04,440
when they do uh an audit, a legislative

2679
01:31:04,440 --> 01:31:06,880
audit, versus the state auditor's office

2680
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:08,920
type audit, they are looking at it in

2681
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:10,840
terms of them driving bills that will

2682
01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:12,080
result

2683
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:14,160
from their audit. So, [clears throat]

2684
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:16,040
it's it's a it's a

2685
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:18,240
just a different type of audit that that

2686
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:19,640
you might be used to seeing when you

2687
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:21,000
have an entity that comes to present

2688
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:22,360
your annual

2689
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:24,160
uh audit of the city. This is very much

2690
01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:26,720
an audit about policy,

2691
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:30,200
uh not about necessarily

2692
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:31,680
whether the money was spent and whether

2693
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:33,840
there was a corresponding

2694
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:36,560
ledger entry that reported with that.

2695
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:37,080
>> Exactly.

2696
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:38,480
>> I think the last thing maybe on this one

2697
01:31:38,480 --> 01:31:39,920
cuz we do have other things we may talk

2698
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:41,440
about is

2699
01:31:41,440 --> 01:31:43,800
coming out of those OAG, Office of the

2700
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:45,160
Legislative Auditor General, audits,

2701
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:46,920
they will always put recommendations in

2702
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:48,560
their audits. It's not just, "Here's

2703
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:49,880
some here's some stuff you should know."

2704
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:51,680
They will say, "We have recommendation

2705
01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:55,680
1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4." And 80% of the time

2706
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:57,280
those turn into bills.

2707
01:31:57,280 --> 01:31:59,880
Um, if they put a audit recommendation,

2708
01:31:59,880 --> 01:32:01,440
some legislator it grab that and they

2709
01:32:01,440 --> 01:32:03,120
will put something in there. So, that's

2710
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:04,240
when we say we have to wait for the

2711
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:06,320
audit to come out because that will very

2712
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:07,720
much inform the discussion that comes

2713
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:09,000
out of it.

2714
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:10,760
>> I would say it this way.

2715
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:12,360
I think it is.

2716
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:14,520
My gut feeling is

2717
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:16,800
less of an issue of compliance but it's

2718
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:18,200
more an issue of

2719
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:19,640
for example

2720
01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:21,760
we use impact fees for residential

2721
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:23,480
property differently than we use them

2722
01:32:23,480 --> 01:32:24,320
for

2723
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:28,360
other types of construction. Should we stratify the residential

2724
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:34,560
property? I see that they are much more in that arena than

2725
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:36,120
quite a little off. I think the laws

2726
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:38,840
been litigated to death. It's there.

2727
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:41,360
It's it's being followed. The question

2728
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:42,840
is

2729
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:45,440
what are the tangential issues?

2730
01:32:45,440 --> 01:32:47,000
Is that a lot of work?

2731
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:48,760
>> I think So, again, impact fees will be

2732
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:50,440
part of our next Monday discussion in

2733
01:32:50,440 --> 01:32:51,600
the advisory group. We'll roll up our

2734
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:52,520
sleeves to talk through those

2735
01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:54,360
principles.

2736
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:56,200
Last week I had several meetings around

2737
01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:58,080
the governor's starter home initiative

2738
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:00,600
and then progress reports there. So,

2739
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:01,760
that will be part of this advisory

2740
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:03,440
group. We're still

2741
01:33:03,440 --> 01:33:05,240
you know, at LPC earlier this month we

2742
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:06,720
listed all the different ideas that were

2743
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:08,720
out there. We're not responding to every

2744
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:10,720
bad idea. We're waiting to see which

2745
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:13,240
ones are rumor and which ones are real.

2746
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:14,960
Uh there's a lot of discussion about how

2747
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:18,440
to uh

2748
01:33:18,440 --> 01:33:19,560
propel

2749
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:20,360
uh

2750
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:22,120
centers going forward. That was

2751
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:23,560
something we've pushed hard for the last

2752
01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:25,080
couple of years is is how do we

2753
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:27,080
turbocharge the development of centers

2754
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:29,280
and the housing component therein. And

2755
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:31,920
then we also have uh generational

2756
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:33,480
legislation that Congress is considering

2757
01:33:33,480 --> 01:33:35,600
on housing uh that we'll be worth doing

2758
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:37,360
a deeper dive on. Mayor Shepherd, can

2759
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:38,920
you take a quick moment since you know a

2760
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:40,560
lot about the 2045 plan to just give an

2761
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:42,560
update on on where things are at there

2762
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:43,720
and then my last question for the board

2763
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:44,960
when Mayor Shepherd finishes is if

2764
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:47,280
there's anything else missing

2765
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:48,840
in either the economic development space

2766
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:50,000
or the housing space you want to make

2767
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:51,280
sure is on the radar for those two

2768
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:53,040
advisory groups. Please, please, please

2769
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:54,680
let us know as we finalize those agendas

2770
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:56,000
in the next couple you for all

2771
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:57,080
Mayor Shepherd. [snorts]

2772
01:33:57,080 --> 01:34:02,720
>> Your housing's going well. We'll get the 21st Century Road to Housing Act

2773
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:05,840
that is the Senate moved forward last

2774
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:08,160
week. They'll take their vote up early

2775
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:09,960
this week, today or tomorrow.

2776
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:11,880
Uh it'll head over to the house.

2777
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:14,600
It moved out of the Senate on a

2778
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:16,520
85-7

2779
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:19,280
vote, I believe. Um so it it will move

2780
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:20,120
forward. It'll move forward in the

2781
01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:22,480
house. It's got consensus on both sides.

2782
01:34:22,480 --> 01:34:25,600
Um that's the first major housing

2783
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:27,480
legislation that's come through in in

2784
01:34:27,480 --> 01:34:29,200
decades. So

2785
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:31,640
um some some some great things in the

2786
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:32,760
bill.

2787
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:34,520
Um

2788
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:36,080
looks like our

2789
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:38,000
senators are split on it.

2790
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:38,920
Huh.

2791
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:41,480
One will vote yes, one will vote no.

2792
01:34:41,480 --> 01:34:42,200
Um

2793
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:43,800
but it looks like all of our our the

2794
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:45,080
members of the house will vote for it.

2795
01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:47,320
So that will be good. We continue to

2796
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:49,200
meet with America's Housing Comeback and

2797
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:52,040
head back to Louisville week after next.

2798
01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:53,560
So

2799
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:55,160
>> Thank you, Mayor Shepherd, for your

2800
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:56,280
service with the National League of

2801
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:58,280
Cities board. I know that means a lot of

2802
01:34:58,280 --> 01:34:59,800
travel for you back and forth. So we

2803
01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:01,960
appreciate your

2804
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:03,960
engage and make sure that we have some

2805
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:05,520
solid representation from the Utah

2806
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:07,200
League.

2807
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:08,840
>> All right, Nick. I think let's jump to

2808
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:10,200
the discussion on LPC. If you want to

2809
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:11,680
pull up my slides.

2810
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:13,400
>> question before we leave this subject.

2811
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:14,120
>> Yeah.

2812
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:15,440
>> Um so everyone that's served on the

2813
01:35:15,440 --> 01:35:17,080
property tax group, are they

2814
01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:17,880
automatically

2815
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:18,920
>> Everyone's volunteered, yeah.

2816
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:20,120
>> Yeah, automatically volunteered.

2817
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:20,520
>> Okay.

2818
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:21,880
>> You're all volunteered.

2819
01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:23,920
>> I enjoyed that. I know my city manager,

2820
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:26,760
Gary Hill, enjoyed that uh tremendously

2821
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:28,600
and so did many others.

2822
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:29,240
>> Is [clears throat] that the word he

2823
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:30,560
would use?

2824
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:32,880
>> I don't know. Gary is nodding his head.

2825
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:35,000
Gary is sort of the author of the impact

2826
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:36,160
statements. So

2827
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:40,270
>> Oh, does Gary want that public?

2828
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:41,800
» So I think it also demonstrates how

2829
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:44,080
valuable these advisory groups have been

2830
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:45,520
creating them. So I I appreciate

2831
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:46,680
everybody's service on it. You'll notice

2832
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:48,320
homelessness is not listed here because

2833
01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:51,120
it's a separate own work group.

2834
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:51,440
>> Yes.

2835
01:35:51,440 --> 01:35:52,960
>> Homeless remediation task force with the

2836
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:55,040
November 1st deadline. That also has its

2837
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:56,720
first meeting this week. So, all these

2838
01:35:56,720 --> 01:35:59,400
groups are are often working now.

2839
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:00,800
>> All right. So, I'll spend a few minutes

2840
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:02,640
talking about LPC.

2841
01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:03,960
Um

2842
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:07,040
but about the how LPC is working. So,

2843
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:08,680
these are the upcoming LPC meetings we

2844
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:11,080
have uh until January. These are having

2845
01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:13,200
them a lot more frequently.

2846
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:14,000
Um

2847
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:15,400
We've got four of them the rest of the

2848
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:19,360
year. At this point, roughly 2/3

2849
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:21,120
>> I'm taking your picture.

2850
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:23,560
>> Roughly 2/3 of LP Like you had these

2851
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:26,160
slides. Roughly 2/3 of LPC attendees are

2852
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:28,400
attending online. I know some of you

2853
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:30,880
attend our LPC meetings online. So, the

2854
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:33,360
first question I have um before we get

2855
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:35,920
to some proposals is is there anything

2856
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:37,360
that we can do for those of you who

2857
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:39,560
participate online um or those of you

2858
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:40,840
who participate in the room and are

2859
01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:42,360
really missing out on what the chat is

2860
01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:44,640
saying online. Is there anything that we

2861
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:45,720
could do that would change the

2862
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:47,240
experience

2863
01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:48,480
to make sure everybody, whether they're

2864
01:36:48,480 --> 01:36:51,360
in person or online, is having a good

2865
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:53,760
LPC experience. Anything that

2866
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:54,800
you know, for those who have joined

2867
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:57,560
online or those who are in the room that you feel like could be done

2868
01:36:57,560 --> 01:36:58,360
differently.

2869
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:00,080
>> I think that's a real good question

2870
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:01,960
because sometimes the chats will show up

2871
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:03,080
and I'll start reading them and then you

2872
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:04,800
take them off. Do you have a separate

2873
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:06,320
monitor just for the chats? I think

2874
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:08,760
they'd love the separate chats.

2875
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:10,560
>> That's like all of my That's like all of

2876
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:12,640
my internal thoughts being written out.

2877
01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:13,497
I don't want

2878
01:37:13,497 --> 01:37:14,120
>> [laughter]

2879
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:15,200
>> those.

2880
01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:16,680
>> Well, and it it is it Frankly, it's a

2881
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:19,040
fascinating thing because um in the room

2882
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:20,480
you can, you know, turn to someone right

2883
01:37:20,480 --> 01:37:22,040
next to you and say something snarky.

2884
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:23,480
But, in a chat room people just type

2885
01:37:23,480 --> 01:37:25,560
them out and there are people who sort

2886
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:28,480
of take over the chat.

2887
01:37:28,480 --> 01:37:30,440
>> I have wanted to see the chat. Like,

2888
01:37:30,440 --> 01:37:31,520
we'll listen to them but we'll look at

2889
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:31,680
it.

2890
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:33,280
>> Mhm. You get to see what's going on.

2891
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:34,200
It's almost like you have to have the

2892
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:36,040
computer going on when you're

2893
01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:36,720
>> Right.

2894
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:37,840
>> But, I do want to know what they're

2895
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:39,440
talking about usually and sometimes

2896
01:37:39,440 --> 01:37:41,920
we've almost had votes and I know

2897
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:43,640
Carson and Cassie were able to see those

2898
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:45,520
but the rest of us won't, right?

2899
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:48,440
>> It does seem like we sometimes have two

2900
01:37:48,440 --> 01:37:50,520
we have two LPC meetings

2901
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:55,680
and I joined our June LPC meeting

2902
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:57,560
from vacation.

2903
01:37:57,560 --> 01:37:59,520
>> She was so snarky.

2904
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:01,320
>> I had so much fun in the chat because I

2905
01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:03,200
don't I'm often in the room

2906
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:06,760
so I I got to visit the chat.

2907
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:07,400
>> Okay, so

2908
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:08,760
>> I would say yes, we're having two

2909
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:09,400
different meetings.

2910
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:11,080
>> We're having so chat visibility is

2911
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:12,280
something that I hear people would

2912
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:13,720
actually like to see whether they're in

2913
01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:14,560
the room or not.

2914
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:16,800
>> We have a good time.

2915
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:18,280
>> Seth is un- unsure.

2916
01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:19,480
>> I love with Seth.

2917
01:38:19,480 --> 01:38:22,120
>> So actually maybe chat visibility would

2918
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:24,520
make the chat even more productive. Like

2919
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:25,600
it

2920
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:27,760
>> Snarky's good and snarky Seth comes out

2921
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:31,230
playing.

2922
01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:33,080
» Like I don't know how much we want that

2923
01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:35,800
chat to be a part of the cover record.

2924
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:37,840
>> But there are it it's their choice as

2925
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:38,240
far as the

2926
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:39,840
>> Right, but I mean so if there's more

2927
01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:41,960
visibility on that then maybe I'm going

2928
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:43,920
to be a little bit more reserved.

2929
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:45,480
You may be more circumspect to what you

2930
01:38:45,480 --> 01:38:46,360
but if it's going to be up on the

2931
01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:48,440
screen.

2932
01:38:48,440 --> 01:38:49,760
>> There's great

2933
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:51,760
might be more productive conversation if

2934
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:52,920
they know it's part of the record and

2935
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:54,920
not just off.

2936
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:56,760
>> There's often good questions in the chat

2937
01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:57,000
too.

2938
01:38:57,000 --> 01:38:58,920
>> Fantastic questions.

2939
01:38:58,920 --> 01:39:02,590
There are.

2940
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:08,390
Snarky Seth is something.

2941
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:10,720
are kind of the dominant

2942
01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:11,240
>> Right.

2943
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:12,640
>> Now I mean

2944
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:15,670
I think it

2945
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:17,600
Attending LPC in person has been I think

2946
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:19,760
incredibly valuable for me in getting to

2947
01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:25,520
know people across the state and learning more about people's cities

2948
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:28,680
and experiences and the unstructured

2949
01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:30,000
connection that you would have making in

2950
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:31,880
an in-person meeting.

2951
01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:34,480
But the reality is it's really far. We

2952
01:39:34,480 --> 01:39:36,600
have board members that travel quite far

2953
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:38,480
to be here

2954
01:39:38,480 --> 01:39:42,880
today and I really appreciate that but I also want to respect that

2955
01:39:42,880 --> 01:39:45,680
it's good a distance to be here.

2956
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:47,520
But, that's just not always possible

2957
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:48,440
when you also have duties and

2958
01:39:48,440 --> 01:39:49,800
responsibilities to your city and your

2959
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:51,600
job. So,

2960
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:53,080
>> Well, and again, I know like it is

2961
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:54,760
really 2/3 that are attending online. We

2962
01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:57,040
have more people online than in person

2963
01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:58,280
at this point.

2964
01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:00,120
Um and I agree there are there are

2965
01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:01,080
somewhat two different meetings. I do

2966
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:03,480
think like Carson and Cassidy do a great

2967
01:40:03,480 --> 01:40:05,480
job responding to questions in the text

2968
01:40:05,480 --> 01:40:07,120
or in the in the in the thread in the

2969
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:08,760
chat. Um but yeah, if you're in the

2970
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:09,680
room, you're not necessarily getting

2971
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:11,560
those sponsoring knowing it was even

2972
01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:13,280
asked. Now, I can also think they do a

2973
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:14,920
really good job aggregating questions

2974
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:16,840
and letting us know, "Hey, this is this

2975
01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:17,720
is the beginning of this question a

2976
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:20,000
bunch. We need to respond in the room."

2977
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:21,920
But, that that's helpful with that one.

2978
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:23,800
Any other thoughts? We know voting we

2979
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:26,400
have not had to take a close LPC vote in

2980
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:28,600
a couple of years. Um but with that

2981
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:30,480
number of people online,

2982
01:40:30,480 --> 01:40:32,120
we know um and we are a little bit

2983
01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:33,320
scared of when we do have to take a

2984
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:34,480
vote.

2985
01:40:34,480 --> 01:40:36,440
That is going to be a little bit funky.

2986
01:40:36,440 --> 01:40:37,760
And so yeah, we we have talked about

2987
01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:39,200
what we needed to do to figure out

2988
01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:40,800
whether you're in the room or in person,

2989
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:42,520
some kind of system that everyone logs

2990
01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:45,080
on to and votes the same. Um

2991
01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:46,200
we know that's a thing that we need to

2992
01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:48,240
deal with. We've just been awful lucky

2993
01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:49,680
and we were really close to this last

2994
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:51,520
one. That last LPC where we thought we

2995
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:52,440
were going to have to take a vote, we

2996
01:40:52,440 --> 01:40:53,600
didn't quite get there.

2997
01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:55,720
>> I think that ability to take

2998
01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:57,880
a vote the same way would be helpful.

2999
01:40:57,880 --> 01:40:58,720
And

3000
01:40:58,720 --> 01:40:59,960
like you said, I think it's just a

3001
01:40:59,960 --> 01:41:02,280
matter of time if it's you know, was it

3002
01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:03,640
this session or it's not the next one.

3003
01:41:03,640 --> 01:41:04,480
It's

3004
01:41:04,480 --> 01:41:06,680
not one too far away. So,

3005
01:41:06,680 --> 01:41:09,040
exploring that option or some kind of

3006
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:10,360
similar vote,

3007
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:11,520
that seems a great idea.

3008
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:13,160
>> Is there a way using Slido? I mean, we

3009
01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:15,320
cuz we we

3010
01:41:15,320 --> 01:41:16,600
I hope that we thought so.

3011
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:19,120
>> Carson jump Carson jumped in up there.

3012
01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:21,040
>> I just we we we've really used that as a

3013
01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:23,320
really great tool to help us.

3014
01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:25,000
I think that's been an amazing way to

3015
01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:27,320
take the two rooms and make it one is

3016
01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:29,760
actually Slido. I think that's been

3017
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:31,160
>> Yes, that has been a lot.

3018
01:41:31,160 --> 01:41:32,600
>> that you can see

3019
01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:33,800
how

3020
01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:35,320
all cities are viewing the issue using

3021
01:41:35,320 --> 01:41:36,440
Slido. But, is there a way to make sure

3022
01:41:36,440 --> 01:41:40,480
that we take the LPC representatives of each city,

3023
01:41:40,480 --> 01:41:43,080
verify them with Slido cuz some Slidos

3024
01:41:43,080 --> 01:41:46,200
we want the whole room and some Slidos

3025
01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:47,320
we need just voting members. So, is

3026
01:41:47,320 --> 01:41:48,640
there a way to make that our official

3027
01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:49,640
voting method?

3028
01:41:49,640 --> 01:41:52,360
>> Um yeah, so uh we've looked at a couple

3029
01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:54,840
different options here and we would love

3030
01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:56,200
to have a voting software. We actually

3031
01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:58,840
piloted one during COVID

3032
01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:02,080
um with some degrees of success, but it

3033
01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:04,440
was clunky for a lot of people, so we

3034
01:42:04,440 --> 01:42:06,640
kind of phased out away from that. Um

3035
01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:08,240
and likewise it required everybody to

3036
01:42:08,240 --> 01:42:11,320
keep their phones or devices on that

3037
01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:13,600
webpage constantly and if they were

3038
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:15,920
disconnected from a

3039
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:17,400
free public Wi-Fi source like we often

3040
01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:18,720
use at the capital,

3041
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:20,640
um which was common, then they would

3042
01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:23,080
lose access to the vote and sometimes be

3043
01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:25,320
locked out. So, um we've tried we've

3044
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:26,960
looked at a lot of different platforms

3045
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:28,200
and there's some different challenges we

3046
01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:29,640
have cuz we need a platform that would

3047
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:30,720
let us

3048
01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:33,240
um modify questions in real time. With

3049
01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:35,040
those contentious votes we frequently

3050
01:42:35,040 --> 01:42:38,280
have um amended motions and we might be

3051
01:42:38,280 --> 01:42:41,680
voting on layers of motions and so we need a tool

3052
01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:42,966
that can

3053
01:42:42,966 --> 01:42:43,520
>> [clears throat]

3054
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:45,120
>> adapt.

3055
01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:47,240
Excuse me, be adaptable. We need a tool

3056
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:50,600
that um allows us to verify who's

3057
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:52,600
voting. Um so, one thing we've done in

3058
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:55,120
the last couple years is uh we've moved

3059
01:42:55,120 --> 01:42:57,960
the online voting registration from

3060
01:42:57,960 --> 01:42:59,800
people filling out the sheets of paper

3061
01:42:59,800 --> 01:43:02,080
to people signing in on Qualtrics so

3062
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:03,520
that we can more readily if somebody

3063
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:05,240
casts a vote online or in the room we

3064
01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:07,080
can more readily identify who they are

3065
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:08,280
and make sure they are an eligible

3066
01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:10,720
voting member. Um so, that's been We

3067
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:12,200
haven't had to test it yet, but that's

3068
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:13,600
been really helpful in getting ready for

3069
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:15,480
a that that scenario.

3070
01:43:15,480 --> 01:43:16,400
>> Test it.

3071
01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:18,400
>> Yep. Um we've we've looked at a couple

3072
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:20,520
different things there. The challenge

3073
01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:22,400
with using We've tried to delineate

3074
01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:25,560
Slido as sort of opinion polling, so

3075
01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:28,240
we've never said um only LPC members can

3076
01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:30,000
fill this out. We've wanted to sometimes

3077
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:32,600
get a broader like you may have um 10

3078
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:34,480
planners in the room who have expertise

3079
01:43:34,480 --> 01:43:36,680
on a land use issue but are not

3080
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:38,280
necessarily their city's LPC voting

3081
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:40,080
members and we sometimes want to be able

3082
01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:41,440
to identify their opinion, take that

3083
01:43:41,440 --> 01:43:42,840
into account.

3084
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:44,440
So we've used Slido as sort of the

3085
01:43:44,440 --> 01:43:47,040
catch-all. One thing we do Mayor is

3086
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:48,320
after the meetings, we can't really do

3087
01:43:48,320 --> 01:43:50,080
this in real time because the way the

3088
01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:51,720
data stream works, they don't have a

3089
01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:53,040
API.

3090
01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:55,320
So after the meetings, we'll export all

3091
01:43:55,320 --> 01:43:56,960
the responses. One of the reasons we ask

3092
01:43:56,960 --> 01:43:58,520
for people's names is just so that we

3093
01:43:58,520 --> 01:44:01,080
can we can kind of do this tally and we

3094
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:02,400
have a script that will just run through

3095
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:04,520
and identify everybody who's an LPC

3096
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:07,040
member, who's a board member.

3097
01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:08,640
That's really the only we'll have like

3098
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:10,160
city classifications, some of those high

3099
01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:11,920
levels of detail. I won't break out

3100
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:14,320
results that way. We just can't do that

3101
01:44:14,320 --> 01:44:16,640
in real time during the meeting but that

3102
01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:19,920
does inform how we report back to you as

3103
01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:21,040
the board

3104
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:23,680
and our our own team internally.

3105
01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:25,200
So we're still we're still trying to

3106
01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:26,800
crack that

3107
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:28,400
crack the nut of finding a tool that has

3108
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:30,400
all those three sort of characteristics

3109
01:44:30,400 --> 01:44:32,000
and if anybody knows them, then I'd be

3110
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:33,360
all ears.

3111
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:35,360
There's a lot that do some combination

3112
01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:37,400
of those things but I've yet to find one

3113
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:39,440
that does all of them.

3114
01:44:39,440 --> 01:44:40,840
We've even looked at had some

3115
01:44:40,840 --> 01:44:42,600
conversations internally, Cassidy and I

3116
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:45,440
have just trying to like home brew a

3117
01:44:45,440 --> 01:44:48,120
system that we could just use and I

3118
01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:49,600
don't know that we've

3119
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:50,600
we don't really probably have the

3120
01:44:50,600 --> 01:44:53,520
bandwidth right now to develop that

3121
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:55,040
ourselves but it's something we could

3122
01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:58,550
explore.

3123
01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:00,600
» Any other feedback on how to take

3124
01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:02,080
two rooms

3125
01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:03,840
two different meetings and make them

3126
01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:05,240
more effective as one?

3127
01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:06,400
>> And

3128
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:08,080
I would say I think oh yeah, Nick's

3129
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:09,360
there. I like Nick's discretion. Yeah,

3130
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:10,280
let's go to the next slide. I want to

3131
01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:13,560
talk about a proposal.

3132
01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:15,200
If we go all right, so some of you will

3133
01:45:15,200 --> 01:45:16,880
remember this slide.

3134
01:45:16,880 --> 01:45:18,280
I just want to bring it back cuz it's

3135
01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:19,320
epic.

3136
01:45:19,320 --> 01:45:20,360
Um

3137
01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:21,800
Street Fighter, if you know it was an

3138
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:23,080
arcade video game where you travel

3139
01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:24,560
around the world and you battle

3140
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:26,000
different opponents in different parts

3141
01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:27,400
of the world.

3142
01:45:27,400 --> 01:45:28,480
Um

3143
01:45:28,480 --> 01:45:31,120
They don't just battle in one venue.

3144
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:33,600
So like I said, 2/3 of our attendees are

3145
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:36,080
online now, 1/3 are in person, and I'm

3146
01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:37,720
not talking about during session. During

3147
01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:39,440
session

3148
01:45:39,440 --> 01:45:40,360
we're going to be where we're going to

3149
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:41,960
be no matter what. For anyone who's

3150
01:45:41,960 --> 01:45:44,240
watching where this is about to go. But

3151
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:46,440
outside of session during the interim,

3152
01:45:46,440 --> 01:45:48,240
let's get the next slide, Nick.

3153
01:45:48,240 --> 01:45:51,120
What if we started traveling legislative

3154
01:45:51,120 --> 01:45:53,960
policy committee around the state?

3155
01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:55,560
Acknowledging that we already have a lot

3156
01:45:55,560 --> 01:45:57,600
of people online.

3157
01:45:57,600 --> 01:45:59,440
We just have maybe different people in

3158
01:45:59,440 --> 01:46:00,920
the room and different people on the

3159
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:04,360
line if we traveled around during the

3160
01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:06,200
interim. So if you want to get the next

3161
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:08,680
slide, Nick. So

3162
01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:09,840
you saw the earlier slide where

3163
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:11,760
everything was at the trust and Zoom,

3164
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:14,400
and this is for illustrative purposes only. I'm not

3165
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:15,560
saying this is where we're going to go.

3166
01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:16,920
But what if

3167
01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:18,240
um

3168
01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:19,720
in August we went to somewhere in Cache

3169
01:46:19,720 --> 01:46:22,400
Valley and had it on Zoom. And so the

3170
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:24,080
people in northern Utah get to come in

3171
01:46:24,080 --> 01:46:26,320
person and be a part of LPC in person

3172
01:46:26,320 --> 01:46:27,440
and have a different discussion than

3173
01:46:27,440 --> 01:46:29,280
what we normally get. And maybe we go to

3174
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:31,960
Vernal in September and Provo in October

3175
01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:34,080
and Santa Clara in November. It's on my

3176
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:35,080
side.

3177
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:35,800
Um

3178
01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:36,880
>> I love it.

3179
01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:38,840
>> So thoughts about pros and cons about

3180
01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:41,440
traveling LPC around the state. I'll say

3181
01:46:41,440 --> 01:46:43,320
that the impetus for this is last LPC

3182
01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:45,240
meeting at the trust that we just had a

3183
01:46:45,240 --> 01:46:47,280
few weeks ago. I looked around the room

3184
01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:49,000
and I said, you know,

3185
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:51,040
there's 75 people in this room, and

3186
01:46:51,040 --> 01:46:53,360
again, we had more than that by a long

3187
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:56,240
shot online. And the people in the room

3188
01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:57,680
were pretty representative of Davis

3189
01:46:57,680 --> 01:47:00,360
County, a little bit in northern Salt

3190
01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:02,120
Lake County, and then the numbers

3191
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:03,560
started peeling off a little bit. Some

3192
01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:05,080
of you drove, and I appreciate the

3193
01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:07,160
people who make the drive.

3194
01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:09,160
But geography-wise, we are getting the

3195
01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:11,200
people in the room

3196
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:12,800
a pretty consistent crowd, but also

3197
01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:15,000
geographically a pretty small crowd. And

3198
01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:16,720
so we're having two different meetings,

3199
01:47:16,720 --> 01:47:18,720
and my concern as someone who's getting

3200
01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:20,960
your feedback is I'm getting feedback

3201
01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:22,200
from kind of the same people all the

3202
01:47:22,200 --> 01:47:24,400
time and missing feedback we might get

3203
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:26,280
otherwise. Um

3204
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:27,640
so you can see I'm obviously pushing in

3205
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:29,120
favor of this, but I want to hear from

3206
01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:31,240
your perspective pros and cons if we

3207
01:47:31,240 --> 01:47:33,680
were to travel LPC around and not just

3208
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:35,880
hold it the trust only during interim.

3209
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:36,760
We're not traveling around during

3210
01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:38,160
session, that's not an option, but

3211
01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:39,920
during interim.

3212
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:40,360
>> Mr. President.

3213
01:47:40,360 --> 01:47:41,649
>> I love it. I love it.

3214
01:47:41,649 --> 01:47:41,800
>> [clears throat]

3215
01:47:41,800 --> 01:47:44,000
>> Cost just have to be considered. There's

3216
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:46,520
going to be a hotel and town fair.

3217
01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:47,880
I think if we just think cost something

3218
01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:49,400
like that, but I love it. I also I think

3219
01:47:49,400 --> 01:47:50,560
the right thing is that it makes up the

3220
01:47:50,560 --> 01:47:52,840
voice of the people in the room.

3221
01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:56,120
The city would provide hotels.

3222
01:47:56,120 --> 01:47:58,080
>> See what I mean? Yeah, Mayor.

3223
01:47:58,080 --> 01:48:00,120
>> What would happen what would be the

3224
01:48:00,120 --> 01:48:02,800
consequence if you did it entirely on

3225
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:06,950
Zoom except for the people that were

3226
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:08,600
That was something Roger

3227
01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:08,840
>> Mhm.

3228
01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:09,600
>> I missed the lunch.

3229
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:11,040
>> It was a long one.

3230
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:12,120
>> You would miss the lunch.

3231
01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:13,744
>> With multiple salads and I know why.

3232
01:48:13,744 --> 01:48:14,560
>> [laughter]

3233
01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:16,280
>> Um no, we have talked about doing all

3234
01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:18,120
online on meetings, but we do think

3235
01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:20,000
there is for those who are in the room

3236
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:21,680
there is like um Mayor Bratshaw said

3237
01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:23,480
some benefit and not just some, quite a

3238
01:48:23,480 --> 01:48:25,160
bit of benefit to you know meeting your

3239
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:26,840
colleagues, getting to know them, um

3240
01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:29,120
having those discussions. There's also

3241
01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:30,680
some very real benefits when we get

3242
01:48:30,680 --> 01:48:33,480
legislators in a room um to come and

3243
01:48:33,480 --> 01:48:34,800
have that discussion with people in

3244
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:37,520
person um I think makes an impact.

3245
01:48:37,520 --> 01:48:38,720
>> Okay, couple of that with some training

3246
01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:39,800
where you'd be going out to these

3247
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:40,680
meetings anyway and like

3248
01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:41,080
>> Bingo.

3249
01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:42,320
>> you can get a bigger bang for your buck.

3250
01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:44,320
I love I love this.

3251
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:45,600
>> And yes, that is one of the things

3252
01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:46,840
exactly we were talking about. If we go

3253
01:48:46,840 --> 01:48:48,800
somewhere, you know, we've come down and

3254
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:50,120
we've done a lot of traveling, you know,

3255
01:48:50,120 --> 01:48:51,240
Mayor Palmer mentioned this earlier

3256
01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:52,480
where where we'll go out and do a

3257
01:48:52,480 --> 01:48:54,600
meeting with whomever in an area, do a

3258
01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:57,120
lunch, do a dinner. Yeah, if we did a

3259
01:48:57,120 --> 01:48:59,400
you know, an LPC and then we cut off

3260
01:48:59,400 --> 01:49:00,640
everybody online and if you're in the

3261
01:49:00,640 --> 01:49:01,960
room

3262
01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:03,280
Yeah, we rolled it over to a different

3263
01:49:03,280 --> 01:49:05,160
meeting there um which we could get with

3264
01:49:05,160 --> 01:49:06,800
people there. I think there's an

3265
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:08,760
opportunity going back to legislators um

3266
01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:09,880
if we show up in Richfield, I think I

3267
01:49:09,880 --> 01:49:12,160
can get Carl Albrecht to show up. Um he

3268
01:49:12,160 --> 01:49:13,600
may not show up to any other LPC, but I

3269
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:15,040
bet I could get him if we're down in

3270
01:49:15,040 --> 01:49:16,440
that neck of the woods and there's some

3271
01:49:16,440 --> 01:49:18,040
benefit to that potentially.

3272
01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:19,280
>> Go ahead, do it.

3273
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:20,960
>> I love it for engagement all over the

3274
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:22,400
state with the legislators, with the

3275
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:23,440
members.

3276
01:49:23,440 --> 01:49:24,560
>> Is there a week

3277
01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:26,200
you can do it based on maybe what the

3278
01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:28,320
topic is? Like is it more relevant to

3279
01:49:28,320 --> 01:49:30,680
the place that you're going?

3280
01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:32,560
>> I think that's actually I I really like

3281
01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:35,160
that idea. The trick I think is I think

3282
01:49:35,160 --> 01:49:36,600
we need to do some advanced planning and

3283
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:38,480
it'll be tricky to say this new thing

3284
01:49:38,480 --> 01:49:40,120
dropped this month. Hey, do you happen

3285
01:49:40,120 --> 01:49:41,320
to have somewhere available in Park City

3286
01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:42,920
we can bring everyone to?

3287
01:49:42,920 --> 01:49:44,320
Um so I think we'd have to do a little

3288
01:49:44,320 --> 01:49:47,950
bit of planning now.

3289
01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:49,400
There's a great pizza place in

3290
01:49:49,400 --> 01:49:51,160
>> What's up, Andrew? Come on in.

3291
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:53,240
>> But to tell us point, I mean you could

3292
01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:54,760
ahead of time

3293
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:56,280
we're going to be in Cache Valley

3294
01:49:56,280 --> 01:49:57,560
>> Mhm.

3295
01:49:57,560 --> 01:49:59,360
>> up the issues going on here. One is

3296
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:01,600
actually we are we are going to take 15

3297
01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:03,320
minutes to talk about this topic there.

3298
01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:03,840
>> Sure.

3299
01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:05,640
>> And I think that's like a really helpful

3300
01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:07,720
and that might encourage

3301
01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:09,400
people to join

3302
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:11,560
from Cache Valley that maybe don't even

3303
01:50:11,560 --> 01:50:14,160
join the online stuff.

3304
01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:16,160
I think what this potentially can do for

3305
01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:17,640
us is

3306
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:19,600
make even more people participate in our

3307
01:50:19,600 --> 01:50:22,600
LCC process.

3308
01:50:22,600 --> 01:50:24,840
>> The other idea I would have to you is so

3309
01:50:24,840 --> 01:50:27,400
Park City does these tours around all of

3310
01:50:27,400 --> 01:50:29,600
the ski towns in the in the

3311
01:50:29,600 --> 01:50:30,920
Intermountain West so they can learn

3312
01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:32,480
more about like what's going on in in

3313
01:50:32,480 --> 01:50:33,400
towns [clears throat] that are relevant

3314
01:50:33,400 --> 01:50:34,440
to us.

3315
01:50:34,440 --> 01:50:35,720
So we just got back from American Fork

3316
01:50:35,720 --> 01:50:37,960
and Vail and so maybe if you're in these

3317
01:50:37,960 --> 01:50:39,320
specific cities and they have something

3318
01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:40,840
new that they've just like maybe they

3319
01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:42,200
have a new rec center, they have a new

3320
01:50:42,200 --> 01:50:43,480
something they want to showcase it.

3321
01:50:43,480 --> 01:50:44,680
Maybe there's like a field trip or

3322
01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:46,320
there's something that goes along with

3323
01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:48,000
their city so you can learn a little bit

3324
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:49,400
while you're there

3325
01:50:49,400 --> 01:50:51,280
or

3326
01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:52,840
just they have have the opportunity like

3327
01:50:52,840 --> 01:50:54,200
that. I felt it today. I was like maybe

3328
01:50:54,200 --> 01:50:55,080
I should have come down the mountain

3329
01:50:55,080 --> 01:50:55,920
like before you

3330
01:50:55,920 --> 01:50:57,500
>> I thought about inviting you all to

3331
01:50:57,500 --> 01:50:58,000
[laughter]

3332
01:50:58,000 --> 01:50:59,040
>> But I was thinking about

3333
01:50:59,040 --> 01:50:59,840
>> I was putting out fires this

3334
01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:01,040
>> You know, I've actually

3335
01:51:01,040 --> 01:51:02,640
I I I hate to say this but I've like

3336
01:51:02,640 --> 01:51:04,080
never been

3337
01:51:04,080 --> 01:51:05,720
down to the Main Street or anything like

3338
01:51:05,720 --> 01:51:07,080
that.

3339
01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:08,480
>> I wish we could go right now.

3340
01:51:08,480 --> 01:51:09,760
>> So I was like where can I get coffee

3341
01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:11,440
after this? But I was just thinking like

3342
01:51:11,440 --> 01:51:13,120
how do I get to know your city's better

3343
01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:15,920
than the trouble is that

3344
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:17,120
>> One thing I think we could change is

3345
01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:18,320
communication.

3346
01:51:18,320 --> 01:51:18,800
>> Mhm.

3347
01:51:18,800 --> 01:51:20,400
>> There is a group that has gotten used to

3348
01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:22,520
just being like "It's LPC. I'm going to

3349
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:23,960
trust autopilot." So, you know, we

3350
01:51:23,960 --> 01:51:25,840
really have to ramp up

3351
01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:28,720
some advanced planning especially for

3352
01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:30,560
um

3353
01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:31,960
for those down the Wasatch Front that

3354
01:51:31,960 --> 01:51:33,520
have been

3355
01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:36,160
you know, able to easily drive to be

3356
01:51:36,160 --> 01:51:37,320
like "All right, I'm going to need to

3357
01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:39,560
really be thinking about how I'm, you

3358
01:51:39,560 --> 01:51:41,120
know, going to get down for the day to

3359
01:51:41,120 --> 01:51:42,600
get down to

3360
01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:44,720
Vernal or it may might be an overnight

3361
01:51:44,720 --> 01:51:48,240
if I'm heading down to Santa Clara. So,

3362
01:51:48,240 --> 01:51:49,600
I really need to think about it ahead of

3363
01:51:49,600 --> 01:51:50,920
the day.

3364
01:51:50,920 --> 01:51:52,160
>> Yes, the communication wouldn't just be

3365
01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:54,400
autopilot for sure. Yeah. LPC, you know

3366
01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:56,080
what you're doing at this day. Yeah, I

3367
01:51:56,080 --> 01:51:56,440
agree.

3368
01:51:56,440 --> 01:51:58,520
>> around in November we do the November

3369
01:51:58,520 --> 01:52:01,032
one like later so

3370
01:52:01,032 --> 01:52:03,040
>> [laughter]

3371
01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:04,840
>> You have some biking trails there.

3372
01:52:04,840 --> 01:52:05,760
>> That's right.

3373
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:06,840
>> It's a good time to be there.

3374
01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:08,240
>> Yeah, so yeah, these dates are all

3375
01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:11,200
actually set for LPCs. Um but yeah, the

3376
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:13,400
locations are all not.

3377
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:16,590
>> Not, I like the idea.

3378
01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:18,160
Back to your point that

3379
01:52:18,160 --> 01:52:20,520
we've always been keeping it at trust

3380
01:52:20,520 --> 01:52:22,120
and it is probably it is the same group

3381
01:52:22,120 --> 01:52:22,760
>> Mhm.

3382
01:52:22,760 --> 01:52:24,120
>> and probably has been through the number

3383
01:52:24,120 --> 01:52:26,040
of years

3384
01:52:26,040 --> 01:52:27,760
to allow other people to join in and

3385
01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:29,640
just like we have a when you go down to

3386
01:52:29,640 --> 01:52:31,360
St. George,

3387
01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:33,200
we would get a lot of conversation going

3388
01:52:33,200 --> 01:52:35,480
on with people who don't come up north

3389
01:52:35,480 --> 01:52:36,600
for the annual.

3390
01:52:36,600 --> 01:52:37,880
And it's kind of nice to,

3391
01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:39,000
you know, have that conversation with

3392
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:40,440
you.

3393
01:52:40,440 --> 01:52:42,520
>> Every, I don't know how often but every

3394
01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:47,680
so often UDot takes their board meetings on the road and

3395
01:52:47,680 --> 01:52:48,800
they do their transportation board

3396
01:52:48,800 --> 01:52:50,600
meeting. I we've hosted them twice in

3397
01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:52,560
the last 10 years or so. So, it's not

3398
01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:54,200
that common.

3399
01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:55,240
But,

3400
01:52:55,240 --> 01:52:56,080
you know, [clears throat] if you had six

3401
01:52:56,080 --> 01:52:58,400
or eight locations a year

3402
01:52:58,400 --> 01:53:00,480
next year to not use those same six or

3403
01:53:00,480 --> 01:53:02,400
eight. Generally, yes but specifically,

3404
01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:03,440
no.

3405
01:53:03,440 --> 01:53:05,480
I there's a little bit of civic pride

3406
01:53:05,480 --> 01:53:07,520
that comes that when I can showcase

3407
01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:09,360
Bountiful or North Myton or whatever, I

3408
01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:11,040
think that also there's there's

3409
01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:12,120
something to that that

3410
01:53:12,120 --> 01:53:12,840
>> Mhm.

3411
01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:15,400
>> that the respective cities make it that

3412
01:53:15,400 --> 01:53:17,400
allows them to to be prideful of their

3413
01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:18,840
community.

3414
01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:19,560
>> Yeah.

3415
01:53:19,560 --> 01:53:21,000
>> I love that.

3416
01:53:21,000 --> 01:53:22,360
>> I mean Davis County will be a little bit

3417
01:53:22,360 --> 01:53:24,560
sad. I'm looking over

3418
01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:25,200
where

3419
01:53:25,200 --> 01:53:26,840
Forest is showing.

3420
01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:27,600
Uh

3421
01:53:27,600 --> 01:53:29,200
>> You just have to carpool and have a good

3422
01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:29,720
time.

3423
01:53:29,720 --> 01:53:32,590
>> Yeah.

3424
01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:33,480
» That's great, yeah.

3425
01:53:33,480 --> 01:53:34,920
>> We'll put together some carpools.

3426
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:35,320
>> Yeah.

3427
01:53:35,320 --> 01:53:36,400
>> As Mayor Shepherd.

3428
01:53:36,400 --> 01:53:37,720
>> And and as a Davis County resident, I

3429
01:53:37,720 --> 01:53:40,120
will say it is great at the trust cuz it

3430
01:53:40,120 --> 01:53:42,558
cuts my commute time way down after

3431
01:53:42,558 --> 01:53:44,040
>> [laughter]

3432
01:53:44,040 --> 01:53:45,040
>> as I drive through the land of

3433
01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:45,640
Bountiful.

3434
01:53:45,640 --> 01:53:47,800
>> thumbs up to to see what you can come up

3435
01:53:47,800 --> 01:53:49,240
with.

3436
01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:50,440
>> Okay, yeah. We will we'll put some

3437
01:53:50,440 --> 01:53:51,280
thought into this, but yeah, I

3438
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:52,920
appreciate the feedback. If there's

3439
01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:54,720
anything else, um obviously as we try

3440
01:53:54,720 --> 01:53:56,240
this out and as always give us feedback

3441
01:53:56,240 --> 01:53:58,080
as as we try this out, see what things

3442
01:53:58,080 --> 01:54:00,000
look like. Um but if, you know,

3443
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:01,080
something hits you next time we're in

3444
01:54:01,080 --> 01:54:03,640
LPC that says, yeah, this would just

3445
01:54:03,640 --> 01:54:05,240
help with the online versus in person

3446
01:54:05,240 --> 01:54:07,320
thing. Um or you as staff it would help

3447
01:54:07,320 --> 01:54:09,040
if you would ask, whatever it is, you

3448
01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:11,160
know, just let us know. It's it's it's a

3449
01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:12,320
good problem to have that we have so

3450
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:14,640
much participation, but we have changed

3451
01:54:14,640 --> 01:54:15,960
this in the 5 years that I've been here

3452
01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:18,480
from some online with, you know, a lot

3453
01:54:18,480 --> 01:54:20,440
in the room and it has just slowly

3454
01:54:20,440 --> 01:54:22,040
shifted um

3455
01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:23,600
year by year it's changed over, so we

3456
01:54:23,600 --> 01:54:24,920
want to make sure we're we're getting

3457
01:54:24,920 --> 01:54:26,160
the best experience for everybody out of

3458
01:54:26,160 --> 01:54:26,720
it.

3459
01:54:26,720 --> 01:54:28,120
>> I think you're

3460
01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:29,280
I think maybe why some people are

3461
01:54:29,280 --> 01:54:30,400
feeling more comfortable attending

3462
01:54:30,400 --> 01:54:31,760
online is because of the Slido

3463
01:54:31,760 --> 01:54:32,440
engagement.

3464
01:54:32,440 --> 01:54:33,040
>> Mhm.

3465
01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:34,320
>> Because you're capturing a lot of

3466
01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:36,600
feedback through Slido.

3467
01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:37,840
It used to be that you had to be in the

3468
01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:39,440
room to make sure that if you felt

3469
01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:41,400
strongly about the issue that that kind

3470
01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:43,280
of made it into the record.

3471
01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:48,160
Um so I I think continued use whether we get to

3472
01:54:48,160 --> 01:54:50,080
Carson developing his own

3473
01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:51,880
real-time voting

3474
01:54:51,880 --> 01:54:54,200
amending motion

3475
01:54:54,200 --> 01:54:55,440
broad software or anything, I don't

3476
01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:57,360
know, but they're like Slido has been I

3477
01:54:57,360 --> 01:54:59,400
think a really good app for our

3478
01:54:59,400 --> 01:55:01,040
community group.

3479
01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:02,360
>> And then the last thing I think to to

3480
01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:04,200
Mayor Palmer's point about uh staff

3481
01:55:04,200 --> 01:55:05,840
costs, I look down at Nick on this one.

3482
01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:08,840
But budget-wise uh we have we have funds

3483
01:55:08,840 --> 01:55:10,920
in the travel budget that we wouldn't be

3484
01:55:10,920 --> 01:55:12,120
in a bad place without.

3485
01:55:12,120 --> 01:55:15,110
>> Yeah.

3486
01:55:15,120 --> 01:55:17,910
» All right. Um

3487
01:55:17,920 --> 01:55:20,960
we we've made it I think to the end of

3488
01:55:20,960 --> 01:55:21,440
the

3489
01:55:21,440 --> 01:55:22,080
>> Mhm.

3490
01:55:22,080 --> 01:55:23,760
>> advocacy report, if I'm not wrong.

3491
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:24,480
>> Right.

3492
01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:25,320
>> Okay.

3493
01:55:25,320 --> 01:55:26,720
>> So, here's just the last ask then for

3494
01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:27,880
everybody.

3495
01:55:27,880 --> 01:55:28,960
One,

3496
01:55:28,960 --> 01:55:30,840
you see what the advisory groups are

3497
01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:32,280
that we put together. Some are starting

3498
01:55:32,280 --> 01:55:34,280
to meet, some will meet later this year.

3499
01:55:34,280 --> 01:55:36,040
So, if there's any other issue out there

3500
01:55:36,040 --> 01:55:37,160
that you've heard from your colleagues

3501
01:55:37,160 --> 01:55:39,040
your city colleagues, please make sure

3502
01:55:39,040 --> 01:55:40,440
it's on our radar. We still have a list

3503
01:55:40,440 --> 01:55:42,120
of a bunch of individual topics that

3504
01:55:42,120 --> 01:55:44,040
have come in that we're working through.

3505
01:55:44,040 --> 01:55:46,000
These are the the big ticket ones.

3506
01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:47,840
Second, with the housing, economic

3507
01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:48,920
development, homelessness, they're

3508
01:55:48,920 --> 01:55:49,840
getting underway in the next [snorts]

3509
01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:51,240
few days. So, if there are topics you

3510
01:55:51,240 --> 01:55:53,400
want to make sure are on the radar for

3511
01:55:53,400 --> 01:55:56,080
those specific ones, um let us know. And

3512
01:55:56,080 --> 01:55:57,840
then third, we'll start building out a

3513
01:55:57,840 --> 01:56:00,400
proposal here to just take LPC on the

3514
01:56:00,400 --> 01:56:05,480
road and try to address the two big issues. I will say I realize

3515
01:56:05,480 --> 01:56:06,840
we're overtime. I think it's important

3516
01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:08,560
for folks to know that I talked to my

3517
01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:09,920
fellow state league directors around the

3518
01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:11,360
country and tell them how many of our

3519
01:56:11,360 --> 01:56:14,200
cities are engaged in LPC and in the

3520
01:56:14,200 --> 01:56:15,680
advocacy process, their response is

3521
01:56:15,680 --> 01:56:18,200
usually, "What? You have a meeting every

3522
01:56:18,200 --> 01:56:21,560
week with hundreds of your people?"

3523
01:56:21,560 --> 01:56:22,880
Cuz a lot of them try to go the other

3524
01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:24,080
way. They're like, "You know, we're

3525
01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:25,320
handling our business at the capital and

3526
01:56:25,320 --> 01:56:26,680
we'll let you know what's happening."

3527
01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:28,360
And we've taken the strength of the

3528
01:56:28,360 --> 01:56:30,280
league as the membership approach. So,

3529
01:56:30,280 --> 01:56:32,240
it's awesome to go in the five years

3530
01:56:32,240 --> 01:56:33,480
that Justin's been here to where we've

3531
01:56:33,480 --> 01:56:35,400
basically doubled our regular LPC

3532
01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:37,360
attendance. So, it's a good problem to

3533
01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:38,440
have and thank you for the feedback

3534
01:56:38,440 --> 01:56:39,080
today.

3535
01:56:39,080 --> 01:56:40,720
>> I remember telling you we begged

3536
01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:44,470
[clears throat] you to get involved.

3537
01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:45,000
That's

3538
01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:46,440
>> Well, Roger was only 15 in the state

3539
01:56:46,440 --> 01:56:48,320
then though, so.

3540
01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:49,800
NLC

3541
01:56:49,800 --> 01:56:54,310
and NLC thinks about our business.

3542
01:56:54,320 --> 01:56:56,160
That was only

3543
01:56:56,160 --> 01:56:56,480
Great.

3544
01:56:56,480 --> 01:56:57,360
>> great.

3545
01:56:57,360 --> 01:56:59,560
>> Could you just mention something about

3546
01:56:59,560 --> 01:57:00,560
fire restrictions?

3547
01:57:00,560 --> 01:57:00,960
>> Yeah.

3548
01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:02,560
>> For your information.

3549
01:57:02,560 --> 01:57:04,160
>> Yes, feels like every time you turn

3550
01:57:04,160 --> 01:57:06,600
around there's another fire and and

3551
01:57:06,600 --> 01:57:08,080
that's acute in

3552
01:57:08,080 --> 01:57:10,000
Juab County right now with town of

3553
01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:12,720
Eureka under evacuation yesterday. Looks

3554
01:57:12,720 --> 01:57:14,040
like every other canyon in Salt Lake

3555
01:57:14,040 --> 01:57:16,800
City has faced a fire so far.

3556
01:57:16,800 --> 01:57:18,600
So in Friday facts

3557
01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:19,160
What?

3558
01:57:19,160 --> 01:57:20,360
>> Farmington had one yesterday.

3559
01:57:20,360 --> 01:57:20,760
>> No.

3560
01:57:20,760 --> 01:57:21,640
>> We did have one yesterday.

3561
01:57:21,640 --> 01:57:22,840
>> One on the freeway right

3562
01:57:22,840 --> 01:57:25,800
>> Yeah, right by the freeway, yeah.

3563
01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:26,960
>> Indeed and now

3564
01:57:26,960 --> 01:57:28,160
>> I know because my brother lives in that

3565
01:57:28,160 --> 01:57:29,800
subdivision.

3566
01:57:29,800 --> 01:57:31,760
But it's hard to keep track of which

3567
01:57:31,760 --> 01:57:32,520
is happening and which is

3568
01:57:32,520 --> 01:57:33,560
>> Is from

3569
01:57:33,560 --> 01:57:35,440
>> West Jordan had one this morning by the

3570
01:57:35,440 --> 01:57:37,880
Right. So it's it's a tinderbox out

3571
01:57:37,880 --> 01:57:40,040
there. So we put a reminder Friday facts

3572
01:57:40,040 --> 01:57:42,120
this past Friday

3573
01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:43,520
coming into fireworks season of the

3574
01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:45,120
steps that you need to follow as a

3575
01:57:45,120 --> 01:57:46,520
community if you're going to ban the

3576
01:57:46,520 --> 01:57:49,360
discharge of fireworks or anything else

3577
01:57:49,360 --> 01:57:50,360
that can

3578
01:57:50,360 --> 01:57:52,520
make you cause fires. So one

3579
01:57:52,520 --> 01:57:54,800
ask we have for you going forward is

3580
01:57:54,800 --> 01:57:56,400
just as you're working through that law

3581
01:57:56,400 --> 01:57:57,840
over the next few weeks if there are

3582
01:57:57,840 --> 01:57:59,320
issues that arise let us know because

3583
01:57:59,320 --> 01:58:01,520
that easily can work its way into our

3584
01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:03,560
advocacy efforts at the capital.

3585
01:58:03,560 --> 01:58:04,320
Um

3586
01:58:04,320 --> 01:58:06,680
in the short term though

3587
01:58:06,680 --> 01:58:08,720
are there any specific questions for you

3588
01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:11,920
or from others about what the process is

3589
01:58:11,920 --> 01:58:13,840
that you have to go through?

3590
01:58:13,840 --> 01:58:17,080
They're a couple weeks out.

3591
01:58:17,080 --> 01:58:18,240
The conditions are getting worse by the

3592
01:58:18,240 --> 01:58:20,120
day. Any specific questions on the

3593
01:58:20,120 --> 01:58:21,560
step-by-step process?

3594
01:58:21,560 --> 01:58:22,240
>> It [snorts]

3595
01:58:22,240 --> 01:58:23,920
It would be recommended that

3596
01:58:23,920 --> 01:58:26,080
municipalities across the board do that

3597
01:58:26,080 --> 01:58:28,520
I think, right?

3598
01:58:28,520 --> 01:58:31,200
>> I think the key is the hazardous

3599
01:58:31,200 --> 01:58:32,960
environmental conditions

3600
01:58:32,960 --> 01:58:34,480
you as a community whether it's Manti,

3601
01:58:34,480 --> 01:58:36,720
Valley Ford or anywhere in between

3602
01:58:36,720 --> 01:58:39,160
make that finding in consultation with

3603
01:58:39,160 --> 01:58:41,280
your fire marshal, make that finding

3604
01:58:41,280 --> 01:58:42,760
that the environmental hazardous

3605
01:58:42,760 --> 01:58:44,440
conditions exist. And we spelled out a

3606
01:58:44,440 --> 01:58:45,960
code for several years ago. We worked on

3607
01:58:45,960 --> 01:58:47,480
legislation to provide more detail of

3608
01:58:47,480 --> 01:58:48,760
what that meant.

3609
01:58:48,760 --> 01:58:50,800
So it's it now includes for example dry

3610
01:58:50,800 --> 01:58:53,360
grass. It did not include dry grass

3611
01:58:53,360 --> 01:58:54,640
prior to that change.

3612
01:58:54,640 --> 01:58:57,040
>> Okay. So, there are multiple things you

3613
01:58:57,040 --> 01:58:58,880
can look at and then you look at your

3614
01:58:58,880 --> 01:59:00,400
wildland urban interface, which in the

3615
01:59:00,400 --> 01:59:02,160
case of Park City is basically C1,

3616
01:59:02,160 --> 01:59:03,680
right? I mean, the entire city is the

3617
01:59:03,680 --> 01:59:05,760
wildland urban interface. Well, that's

3618
01:59:05,760 --> 01:59:07,080
not necessarily the case in West Jordan.

3619
01:59:07,080 --> 01:59:08,760
you know, there's a portion

3620
01:59:08,760 --> 01:59:09,840
of the city that's wildland urban

3621
01:59:09,840 --> 01:59:11,200
interface, but the majority of the city

3622
01:59:11,200 --> 01:59:13,640
isn't. So, your findings need to be

3623
01:59:13,640 --> 01:59:15,880
individualized in that situation if

3624
01:59:15,880 --> 01:59:17,800
you're a fire marshal [snorts]

3625
01:59:17,800 --> 01:59:20,040
and then you can make the determination

3626
01:59:20,040 --> 01:59:21,840
of whether or not to to ban discharge

3627
01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:24,560
and then where you ban discharge. And

3628
01:59:24,560 --> 01:59:25,880
that could change between the 4th and

3629
01:59:25,880 --> 01:59:27,520
the 24th.

3630
01:59:27,520 --> 01:59:28,440
>> Can I say something really cool that

3631
01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:29,680
we're talking about now?

3632
01:59:29,680 --> 01:59:30,880
A couple of our firehouses have the

3633
01:59:30,880 --> 01:59:34,120
drones that are going up to spot fires

3634
01:59:34,120 --> 01:59:36,600
out in out in the the like slide around

3635
01:59:36,600 --> 01:59:38,760
and spot it before anything comes and

3636
01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:39,360
then

3637
01:59:39,360 --> 01:59:40,600
sends it immediately sends it to the

3638
01:59:40,600 --> 01:59:42,280
fire department. They've been doing this

3639
01:59:42,280 --> 01:59:44,040
in Colorado and it's caught We've

3640
01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:48,120
already caught three fires that were not reported

3641
01:59:48,120 --> 01:59:49,520
burns like they could have burned, but

3642
01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:51,040
they have put them out.

3643
01:59:51,040 --> 01:59:51,960
They could have spotted them really

3644
01:59:51,960 --> 01:59:53,440
quickly. So, we're we're trying to get

3645
01:59:53,440 --> 01:59:55,480
really ahead of it with AI. Our fire

3646
01:59:55,480 --> 01:59:57,160
department can go into the forest around

3647
01:59:57,160 --> 01:59:58,720
the city.

3648
01:59:58,720 --> 01:59:59,200
>> Do you have any of those?

3649
01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:00,000
>> That's really cool.

3650
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:00,680
>> Yeah.

3651
02:00:00,680 --> 02:00:01,680
What's that? Does that allow us

3652
02:00:01,680 --> 02:00:03,440
for potential workshop or webinar?

3653
02:00:03,440 --> 02:00:04,240
>> It's cool.

3654
02:00:04,240 --> 02:00:06,440
>> It's really cool. They've done it

3655
02:00:06,440 --> 02:00:08,680
Yeah, started in October.

3656
02:00:08,680 --> 02:00:10,440
>> One thing I I know I brought this site

3657
02:00:10,440 --> 02:00:11,640
up a lot of times to parent fight, but

3658
02:00:11,640 --> 02:00:13,680
drought.utah.gov

3659
02:00:13,680 --> 02:00:15,120
the state is doing a really good job

3660
02:00:15,120 --> 02:00:16,520
aggregating everything around drought

3661
02:00:16,520 --> 02:00:18,760
from wildfires to snowpack to reservoir

3662
02:00:18,760 --> 02:00:20,160
levels. So,

3663
02:00:20,160 --> 02:00:22,000
drought.utah.gov It's If you want to

3664
02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:22,960
share it with your citizens or with

3665
02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:24,160
others like that, you can find a lot of

3666
02:00:24,160 --> 02:00:26,760
good info and information on all of it

3667
02:00:26,760 --> 02:00:28,880
drought-related stuff there.

3668
02:00:28,880 --> 02:00:31,880
>> Um fire info, their social media account

3669
02:00:31,880 --> 02:00:33,560
is great if you happen to have fire in

3670
02:00:33,560 --> 02:00:35,480
your community and residents want to

3671
02:00:35,480 --> 02:00:36,880
know where to go for

3672
02:00:36,880 --> 02:00:38,440
and updates and

3673
02:00:38,440 --> 02:00:40,280
uh information if it's especially if

3674
02:00:40,280 --> 02:00:42,120
it's not necessarily something you're

3675
02:00:42,120 --> 02:00:44,080
actively thinking about activation, let

3676
02:00:44,080 --> 02:00:48,080
me say that, but fire info is a state account

3677
02:00:48,080 --> 02:00:50,400
Our social media has great real time,

3678
02:00:50,400 --> 02:00:52,160
reliable updates.

3679
02:00:52,160 --> 02:00:52,840
Um

3680
02:00:52,840 --> 02:00:54,920
>> Cameron needed to mention our dates for

3681
02:00:54,920 --> 02:00:56,160
our next meeting.

3682
02:00:56,160 --> 02:00:56,720
>> Yes.

3683
02:00:56,720 --> 02:00:57,640
>> you want to tell us?

3684
02:00:57,640 --> 02:00:59,360
>> So, right now you have calendar invites

3685
02:00:59,360 --> 02:01:00,920
for the following three dates. This is

3686
02:01:00,920 --> 02:01:02,480
the last three meetings of this current

3687
02:01:02,480 --> 02:01:04,040
board.

3688
02:01:04,040 --> 02:01:06,000
They were scheduled initially at 9:30

3689
02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:08,440
a.m. because of the possibility that we

3690
02:01:08,440 --> 02:01:09,960
were doing the double

3691
02:01:09,960 --> 02:01:12,120
board meeting with LPC at lunch. We

3692
02:01:12,120 --> 02:01:13,840
ultimately only have one of those

3693
02:01:13,840 --> 02:01:15,920
doubles and that currently is Monday,

3694
02:01:15,920 --> 02:01:17,840
September 21st where we have board in

3695
02:01:17,840 --> 02:01:20,480
the morning, LPC at lunch. The 17th and

3696
02:01:20,480 --> 02:01:22,240
the 26th

3697
02:01:22,240 --> 02:01:24,200
because Monday the 26th overlaps with

3698
02:01:24,200 --> 02:01:25,680
the convention, there is no LPC that

3699
02:01:25,680 --> 02:01:27,720
week and then in August we decided to

3700
02:01:27,720 --> 02:01:29,760
split up board and LPC since we weren't

3701
02:01:29,760 --> 02:01:31,760
doing either meeting in July.

3702
02:01:31,760 --> 02:01:33,600
So, my quick question for this group is

3703
02:01:33,600 --> 02:01:36,000
do you want to keep these times at the

3704
02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:38,560
same time? Would you prefer the on the

3705
02:01:38,560 --> 02:01:40,720
case the August and October meetings to

3706
02:01:40,720 --> 02:01:42,720
move to the lunch hour so we can provide

3707
02:01:42,720 --> 02:01:44,520
lunch? If you're already locked in with

3708
02:01:44,520 --> 02:01:46,040
these times, that's fine, too, but just

3709
02:01:46,040 --> 02:01:47,160
in light of the changes we're going to

3710
02:01:47,160 --> 02:01:49,320
propose to LPC, we needed to

3711
02:01:49,320 --> 02:01:51,240
confirm these details, too.

3712
02:01:51,240 --> 02:01:52,640
>> Okay, so you're going to

3713
02:01:52,640 --> 02:01:53,960
>> So, right now we have the double on

3714
02:01:53,960 --> 02:01:55,400
September, so we'll work through that.

3715
02:01:55,400 --> 02:01:56,960
But, for purposes at least of Monday,

3716
02:01:56,960 --> 02:01:59,080
August 17th, do we stay at 9:30 or shift

3717
02:01:59,080 --> 02:02:00,760
to the lunch hour because we will not be

3718
02:02:00,760 --> 02:02:03,720
doing the double back-to-back?

3719
02:02:03,720 --> 02:02:05,360
>> Everyone check your calendars right now.

3720
02:02:05,360 --> 02:02:05,800
>> I have it.

3721
02:02:05,800 --> 02:02:07,600
>> So, where did you say the August 24th

3722
02:02:07,600 --> 02:02:08,920
LPC was going to be?

3723
02:02:08,920 --> 02:02:09,880
>> We do not know yet.

3724
02:02:09,880 --> 02:02:10,880
>> We're going to work through something at

3725
02:02:10,880 --> 02:02:12,440
that board meeting which changes to that

3726
02:02:12,440 --> 02:02:13,200
new location.

3727
02:02:13,200 --> 02:02:15,000
>> No, this is no, we would still

3728
02:02:15,000 --> 02:02:16,040
These board meetings have already been

3729
02:02:16,040 --> 02:02:17,760
approved. It's just a matter of changing

3730
02:02:17,760 --> 02:02:19,160
the times for the meeting.

3731
02:02:19,160 --> 02:02:19,640
>> Oh, just the

3732
02:02:19,640 --> 02:02:21,040
>> Just the times.

3733
02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:22,800
>> We both do September, we have both of

3734
02:02:22,800 --> 02:02:23,800
them.

3735
02:02:23,800 --> 02:02:25,640
Not the other one. Yeah, August 7th. So,

3736
02:02:25,640 --> 02:02:27,040
August, do you want to stay at 9:30 or

3737
02:02:27,040 --> 02:02:28,600
move to the lunch hour since it will not

3738
02:02:28,600 --> 02:02:30,680
be LPC at lunch that day cuz LPC will be

3739
02:02:30,680 --> 02:02:31,640
in the fall.

3740
02:02:31,640 --> 02:02:33,840
>> I will say the I I have got them locked

3741
02:02:33,840 --> 02:02:35,280
in my calendar already, so

3742
02:02:35,280 --> 02:02:36,720
>> Yeah, which is fine.

3743
02:02:36,720 --> 02:02:37,720
If we want to just keep it since they're

3744
02:02:37,720 --> 02:02:39,360
already in the calendars, that's fine.

3745
02:02:39,360 --> 02:02:41,440
>> But, I want to mention this board

3746
02:02:41,440 --> 02:02:43,000
meeting we've held in this location.

3747
02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:44,920
Thank you. This is great, very

3748
02:02:44,920 --> 02:02:47,720
comfortable, it's roomy, it's nice. No

3749
02:02:47,720 --> 02:02:49,440
offense to the League conference room,

3750
02:02:49,440 --> 02:02:52,360
but that room is too small.

3751
02:02:52,360 --> 02:02:54,440
I would be happy to move all our board

3752
02:02:54,440 --> 02:02:57,000
meetings outside of that

3753
02:02:57,000 --> 02:02:58,840
room and find a different location of

3754
02:02:58,840 --> 02:03:02,110
our apartment.

3755
02:03:02,120 --> 02:03:03,920
» Well, Mayor, I think as part of what

3756
02:03:03,920 --> 02:03:05,800
we're rethinking with LPC and others, I

3757
02:03:05,800 --> 02:03:07,440
think we can take all that under

3758
02:03:07,440 --> 02:03:08,880
consideration.

3759
02:03:08,880 --> 02:03:10,920
Cuz right now we do four board meetings

3760
02:03:10,920 --> 02:03:13,040
offsite. We do the Presidential City,

3761
02:03:13,040 --> 02:03:15,920
Local Officials Day mid-year,

3762
02:03:15,920 --> 02:03:17,840
historically we've done annual

3763
02:03:17,840 --> 02:03:19,520
at least right now we're not scheduling

3764
02:03:19,520 --> 02:03:21,120
any offsite there.

3765
02:03:21,120 --> 02:03:22,040
Okay.

3766
02:03:22,040 --> 02:03:24,120
>> I will say this, I thought the League

3767
02:03:24,120 --> 02:03:26,800
staff did a great job on figuring out

3768
02:03:26,800 --> 02:03:28,480
what they would need and how to make

3769
02:03:28,480 --> 02:03:30,640
everything work.

3770
02:03:30,640 --> 02:03:32,120
Um and

3771
02:03:32,120 --> 02:03:34,480
now the staff is happy to help, but it

3772
02:03:34,480 --> 02:03:37,000
does it does involve them packing up

3773
02:03:37,000 --> 02:03:39,360
shop and everything they might

3774
02:03:39,360 --> 02:03:40,520
need and

3775
02:03:40,520 --> 02:03:43,520
kind of hefting it somewhere. So, if we

3776
02:03:43,520 --> 02:03:45,240
were to take all our

3777
02:03:45,240 --> 02:03:46,840
>> Yeah, if we were to take all our

3778
02:03:46,840 --> 02:03:48,640
meetings on the road, that might get to

3779
02:03:48,640 --> 02:03:52,390
be kind of a burden.

3780
02:03:52,400 --> 02:03:53,720
» But I'll be taking it under advisement

3781
02:03:53,720 --> 02:03:58,790
as part of this overall conversation.

3782
02:03:58,800 --> 02:04:00,320
» Unless you propose in there always about

3783
02:04:00,320 --> 02:04:02,850
food and then that's a awesome idea.

3784
02:04:02,850 --> 02:04:04,800
>> [laughter]

3785
02:04:04,800 --> 02:04:06,840
>> My commute is great.

3786
02:04:06,840 --> 02:04:08,920
>> That's true.

3787
02:04:08,920 --> 02:04:10,200
>> Okay, we've reached the end of our

3788
02:04:10,200 --> 02:04:12,720
agenda. If there are no other business,

3789
02:04:12,720 --> 02:04:14,800
I'll entertain a motion to adjourn.

3790
02:04:14,800 --> 02:04:15,840
>> So moved.

3791
02:04:15,840 --> 02:04:16,600
>> The motion has been made by

3792
02:04:16,600 --> 02:04:18,320
Councilmember Ervin and seconded by

3793
02:04:18,320 --> 02:04:19,640
Mayor Palmer. All in favor of

3794
02:04:19,640 --> 02:04:20,640
adjourning, please say "Aye."

3795
02:04:20,640 --> 02:04:22,680
>> Aye.

3796
02:04:22,680 --> 02:04:24,360
>> Any opposed? Looks like we are

3797
02:04:24,360 --> 02:04:26,520
adjourned. Thank you all for

3798
02:04:26,520 --> 02:04:28,120
coming up to Land O' Lakes.

3799
02:04:28,120 --> 02:04:30,720
Thanks, everyone.