1 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,679 Welcome everyone to our uh August board 2 00:00:11,679 --> 00:00:15,040 meeting. Um I was going to say it feels 3 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:16,640 like we haven't been together except for 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,480 we all spent so much time in July 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,800 together. 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:22,560 It's like instead of having live break 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,039 that we were all we were all together a 8 00:00:25,039 --> 00:00:30,240 lot especially through um multiple 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,239 vacations of week staff that we spent on 10 00:00:32,239 --> 00:00:35,600 emergency meetings and officers. So 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,040 thank you for everyone putting in all 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,320 that extra time um for the month of 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,840 July. Um, I do have a would you rather, 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,360 but before we get to the would you 15 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:50,399 rather, um, we do have a new staffer, 16 00:00:50,399 --> 00:00:52,800 um, uh, John. And I'm gonna actually 17 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:58,480 turn to Cameron to introduce John and then we'll get into our, uh, would 18 00:00:58,480 --> 00:00:59,280 you rather? 19 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:00,559 >> Perfect. Thank you, Mayor Bradshaw. 20 00:01:00,559 --> 00:01:02,399 Thank you everybody for joining us in 21 00:01:02,399 --> 00:01:04,239 person online today. The last time we 22 00:01:04,239 --> 00:01:08,159 met was in city hall and it is a little 23 00:01:08,159 --> 00:01:09,840 bizarre to think back to the end of that 24 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,479 meeting where we did a fireworks update 25 00:01:12,479 --> 00:01:14,720 for Mayor W three minutes because you 26 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,799 had asked about me can we talk fireworks 27 00:01:16,799 --> 00:01:18,240 on the agendas. Yep. Here's the quick 28 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,400 update. Little did we know what was 29 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:21,920 coming over the the next couple weeks 30 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,439 and we'll talk more about that later in 31 00:01:23,439 --> 00:01:25,840 the agenda today. We also told you in 32 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,560 June that because of the election and 33 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,720 just some of weirdness this spring, 34 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,640 things hadn't really picked up at the 35 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,439 Capitol and I assure you that since the 36 00:01:35,439 --> 00:01:37,119 election and since the July holidays, 37 00:01:37,119 --> 00:01:38,479 things have picked up at the capital. 38 00:01:38,479 --> 00:01:40,880 So, we hope you had a great summer and 39 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,040 had a chance to spend time with friends 40 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,320 and family and August is already faster 41 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:49,439 paced than July was and just up and 42 00:01:49,439 --> 00:01:52,079 accelerate between and session. So, I 43 00:01:52,079 --> 00:01:53,520 have a lot to get through today, but 44 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,119 before we get into the substance, I want 45 00:01:55,119 --> 00:01:57,759 to welcome uh John, you as a board 46 00:01:57,759 --> 00:02:00,320 authorized the creation of this position 47 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,560 a couple of board meetings ago and we 48 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,640 went through the process and and 49 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,399 identified John as the perfect candidate 50 00:02:08,399 --> 00:02:10,160 at the perfect time. So, John, I'm going 51 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:11,520 to turn it to you for just a moment to 52 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,760 introduce yourself and tell everybody 53 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,360 your background and why you're excited 54 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:15,840 to be here. 55 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,840 >> Yeah, for sure. Um, yeah, so my name is 56 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,959 John. Uh I graduated with from UVU with 57 00:02:20,959 --> 00:02:23,040 a degree in PR and so you know a lot of 58 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,040 work I've been doing here is um a lot 59 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,200 with communication side. So a lot of 60 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,720 communications I get sent out um 61 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,000 that um and I mean yeah I'm just really 62 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,080 excited to be here and be able to you 63 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,640 know help out and be a part of the work 64 00:02:38,640 --> 00:02:40,640 that that that you all do. So I'm 65 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:42,800 excited. So yeah, 66 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,000 >> what do you do for fun? 67 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,480 >> Uh for fun I'm a big soccer guy. So I 68 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,200 love playing. Yeah. 69 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,519 So I love playing coach a little 70 00:02:51,519 --> 00:02:55,519 bit and watch all things soccer. So 71 00:02:55,519 --> 00:02:56,720 >> who your team? 72 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,440 >> Yeah. Which which team effectively and 73 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,440 then which team did you want to win the 74 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:02,720 world cup? 75 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,120 >> Um I I did want but I have a Japanese 76 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,599 background so I did want Japan. 77 00:03:07,599 --> 00:03:09,760 Unfortunately that wasn't meant to be. 78 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,319 Um, but in terms of kids that I like, 79 00:03:12,319 --> 00:03:15,360 um, definitely ourselves, um, team, uh, 80 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:16,959 in the Premier League, I'm a big Crystal 81 00:03:16,959 --> 00:03:21,120 Palace fan. So, yeah. Yeah. Excited for 82 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:30,869 the [laughter] 83 00:03:30,879 --> 00:03:34,239 » This group is not short of opinion. 84 00:03:34,239 --> 00:03:37,440 >> That's the problem. I mean, 85 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,000 city ban at any time. 86 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,360 city. 87 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:47,750 >> Oh, wow. 88 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,959 » That's okay. 89 00:03:50,959 --> 00:03:57,350 I can handle um 90 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,159 » No, I guess we'll see what happens when 91 00:04:00,159 --> 00:04:03,040 Well, John, welcome to the team. This is 92 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,640 a, you know, a great team to be a part 93 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,319 of. Um I'm a big fan and a huge fan of 94 00:04:08,319 --> 00:04:11,360 building staff in general. 95 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,760 So 96 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,439 great to have you. 97 00:04:15,439 --> 00:04:17,519 >> Okay. So now we will turn especially now 98 00:04:17,519 --> 00:04:21,040 that Seth's here um to 99 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:30,629 our would you rather question. 100 00:04:30,639 --> 00:04:34,479 » Give everyone a moment to launch. 101 00:04:34,479 --> 00:04:39,360 of Raido. So, uh, this question 102 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,880 comes to you courtesy 103 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,360 of, uh, what I was just talking about. I 104 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,199 spent a chunk of my, uh, weekend with 105 00:04:49,199 --> 00:04:50,880 nieces and nephews getting ready for 106 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,320 school. My husband's a school teacher 107 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:56,639 and he's back this week. So, I am really 108 00:04:56,639 --> 00:04:59,680 curious. Would you rather have summer 109 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:05,280 weather last all year or are you over 110 00:05:05,280 --> 00:05:07,919 it? Um, and would you rather have fall 111 00:05:07,919 --> 00:05:17,029 weather last all year? 112 00:05:17,039 --> 00:05:19,440 » It's the whole thing. 113 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,759 I mean the summer you get, you know, 114 00:05:21,759 --> 00:05:24,880 late summer nights, you know, sun up in 115 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,639 the morning, but it's super hot with 116 00:05:26,639 --> 00:05:28,720 fall, shorter days, 117 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,960 >> crisp, it could it could be windy, it 118 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:36,310 could be raining. I don't know. 119 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,080 » Did the tree like just cycle through all 120 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,000 year round? 121 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,120 >> No, in in city it depending what you all 122 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,960 decide. Um but yeah, the the leaves will 123 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,320 just stay either green or orange. 124 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:55,350 >> Oh, that changes the game. 125 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,680 » I feel like this group is is uh looking 126 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:02,870 forward to some 127 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,840 » Yeah. So, 128 00:06:05,840 --> 00:06:07,360 >> we weren't giving anyone references. 129 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:08,720 Nobody. 130 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,800 >> Okay. I did. We have some commentary 131 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,360 from Mayor Walker. 132 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:17,909 So, it sounded like a side. 133 00:06:17,919 --> 00:06:20,080 » Okay. Uh, well, this group is pretty 134 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:21,840 decisive. I actually thought that some 135 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:23,360 of you would be like, "No, I want the 136 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,240 murder last forever." Uh, thank you for 137 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,120 indulging my love of fathers. 138 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:33,590 >> Yeah. 139 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,960 » So, okay, we'll move on in our agenda to 140 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,639 our more serious topics. Uh the first of 141 00:06:40,639 --> 00:06:44,240 our um more serious topics is has anyone 142 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,120 had a chance to uh review the minutes 143 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,800 from our last meeting and is anyone 144 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,160 prepared to make a motion on the 145 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,080 minutes? 146 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:53,280 >> I'll move to approve the minutes. 147 00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:54,560 Second. 148 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,160 >> The motion from Mayor Shepard, second 149 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:57,680 from council member Dugan to approve the 150 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,360 minutes. All in favor of approving the 151 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:00,800 minutes, please say I. 152 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,520 >> I. 153 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,479 >> Any opposed? 154 00:07:06,479 --> 00:07:08,000 Looks like our minutes are approved 155 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,199 unanimously. Uh the second uh item under 156 00:07:11,199 --> 00:07:13,759 that section is a um a call for any 157 00:07:13,759 --> 00:07:16,479 updates to the conflicts of disclosure. 158 00:07:16,479 --> 00:07:18,960 Uh does anyone have an updated form or 159 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,680 any conflict they need to disclose for 160 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:26,070 this meeting? 161 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,520 Okay, seeing none, we will move on from 162 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,400 those two items and move over to our 163 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,400 ULCT boards and commissions um report. 164 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,080 and we will turn to Alexa for that item 165 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:41,919 to update us. Looks like she's got a lot 166 00:07:41,919 --> 00:07:44,319 of items. 167 00:07:44,319 --> 00:07:46,000 >> I'll try to be quick. Happy August, 168 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,639 everyone. So, my first item is just an 169 00:07:48,639 --> 00:07:50,400 update on the Utah Communications 170 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,240 Authority Board. You might remember from 171 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,720 our last meeting. You told us that you 172 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,319 would like to see your representation on 173 00:07:56,319 --> 00:07:58,560 that board be composed of individuals 174 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,400 that are actively involved in the inner 175 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,160 workings of a city. So, we've been 176 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,160 having discussions with city staff 177 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,000 members and elected officials all over 178 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,680 the state to engage interest in those 179 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,440 roles and we want to make sure that we 180 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,680 pick someone that's a great example of 181 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,160 all the parameters that you set for us. 182 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,319 Uh, so we're going to plan to continue 183 00:08:16,319 --> 00:08:18,000 having those conversations between now 184 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,599 and our next board meeting in September 185 00:08:19,599 --> 00:08:20,639 and come back to you with 186 00:08:20,639 --> 00:08:22,319 recommendations in September. Justin, 187 00:08:22,319 --> 00:08:23,919 anything you not? I know you've been 188 00:08:23,919 --> 00:08:26,240 having most of those conversations. 189 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,319 Yeah, just to add on to that, um had a 190 00:08:28,319 --> 00:08:29,440 lot of conversations with several 191 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,800 different cities about UCA and um 192 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,880 concerns that have come up with UCA, um 193 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,719 things that people would like to see 194 00:08:36,719 --> 00:08:39,599 maybe changed up a little bit. And so, 195 00:08:39,599 --> 00:08:41,440 um because we haven't met with the LBC 196 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,120 in a minute, we didn't ever we sort of 197 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,760 asked the question, our last LBC, just 198 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:46,959 we didn't really even ask a question. We 199 00:08:46,959 --> 00:08:49,200 just sort of briefly mentioned it UCA 200 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:50,399 and a lot of people reached out to me 201 00:08:50,399 --> 00:08:51,680 and said, "Hey, this is not really what 202 00:08:51,680 --> 00:08:52,959 you asked. I have things I want to tell 203 00:08:52,959 --> 00:08:55,440 you." Which was fascinating. Um, but we 204 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:56,720 haven't really broadly asked the 205 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,480 membership 206 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,080 if you're interested in actually filling 207 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,279 those positions. So, we want to make 208 00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:02,560 sure that we do our due diligence on 209 00:09:02,560 --> 00:09:05,519 that one and ask it broadly at LBC next 210 00:09:05,519 --> 00:09:07,680 week so we can come back next uh next 211 00:09:07,680 --> 00:09:09,519 time to board meeting and make a a 212 00:09:09,519 --> 00:09:11,200 recommendation there. The next time the 213 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,080 UCA meets is in October. Um, that's kind 214 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,680 of their big organizing conference. So, 215 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:17,839 we have a minute before um we have to 216 00:09:17,839 --> 00:09:19,279 have someone in that spot, but that 217 00:09:19,279 --> 00:09:21,519 that's where everything's at. Um, so I 218 00:09:21,519 --> 00:09:23,200 will put the ask out here before we ask 219 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,399 a wisely LPC. Um, if if someone in this 220 00:09:26,399 --> 00:09:28,080 room or someone in your city is 221 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,399 interested in serving on that UC board, 222 00:09:30,399 --> 00:09:32,880 uh, let me know. Um, it can't be someone 223 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,279 who works in the dispatch center or is 224 00:09:35,279 --> 00:09:36,880 directly over a dispatch center. So like 225 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,720 a fire chief or a police chief would not 226 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,839 be, uh, someone that could do it. Um, 227 00:09:41,839 --> 00:09:44,320 city manager, city attorney, electives, 228 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,720 those are all on the table. Um, so 229 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:47,760 that's that's where we're going with 230 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,440 that. Um, if you have any questions, 231 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,440 feel free to reach out to me. I have a 232 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,240 chunk of my week um, really set aside to 233 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,000 talk about UCA at this point. So, if 234 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,399 anyone wants to let me know. 235 00:09:58,399 --> 00:09:59,839 >> I'm going to offer just one piece of 236 00:09:59,839 --> 00:10:02,720 commentary because it's something, but 237 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,399 um, 238 00:10:04,399 --> 00:10:06,800 uh, my city operates a dispatch center 239 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,120 for the southern half of Davis County 240 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,000 and we had asked for additional console. 241 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,279 We weren't able to get the additional 242 00:10:13,279 --> 00:10:16,720 console. Um during our two July 243 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,040 holidays, we've learned 244 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,440 to go out in either our sisters cities 245 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,560 or our fire districts to do DUI extra 246 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:27,200 pick up extra DUI shifts during the 247 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,120 holiday season where that's higher 248 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:30,880 activity 249 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,800 um because of the limitations. 250 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,560 So I continue to be just a little bit 251 00:10:36,560 --> 00:10:39,040 concerned that we're not maybe meeting 252 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,160 or understanding municipal 253 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,040 needs on the front lines. So, I hope 254 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,240 that as we continue to discuss how this 255 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,079 board functions and operates that we are 256 00:10:50,079 --> 00:10:52,160 thoughtful about putting some people in 257 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,160 place that will be aware of some of 258 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,959 those concerns, looking at a entity for 259 00:10:56,959 --> 00:10:58,720 when we dispatch it over here at 260 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:03,600 Farmington. Um, and so I look forward to 261 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:08,000 the LPC discussion coming up. 262 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,839 >> Perfect. I'll move on to the next item. 263 00:11:09,839 --> 00:11:12,000 So you as a board are responsible for 264 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,079 appointing a representative to the Utah 265 00:11:14,079 --> 00:11:16,000 Cyber Security Commission. This group 266 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,519 gets together a couple of times a year 267 00:11:17,519 --> 00:11:19,040 and makes recommendations to the 268 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,279 legislature in terms of legislation 269 00:11:21,279 --> 00:11:24,240 related to cyber security. Um our 270 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,760 current representative on the board, member Caseville and Caseville 271 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,720 Mayor Tammy Tran, her um her appointment 272 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,959 on the board is ending or actually ended 273 00:11:32,959 --> 00:11:35,120 already at June 30th. So, we are 274 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,200 recommending that you appoint Hideout 275 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,040 Mayor Ralph Seabberini to serve on the 276 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,440 cyber security commission um on behalf 277 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,600 of cities and towns. Mayor Seberini has 278 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:44,959 a professional background in the 279 00:11:44,959 --> 00:11:46,880 technology sector that we think would 280 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:48,880 make him very well suited to serve in 281 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,640 this role and he's really really excited 282 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,200 about the opportunity. Um next, joint 283 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,360 highway committee. So, I updated you on 284 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,000 this as of our last board meeting. Um, 285 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,959 as a reminder, ULCT has 15 regional and 286 00:12:00,959 --> 00:12:03,360 at large representatives on the JHC 287 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,800 after the last JHC meeting, which um, 288 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,800 >> welcome. Hello. 289 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,279 >> My security 290 00:12:11,279 --> 00:12:12,079 got to happen. 291 00:12:12,079 --> 00:12:14,079 >> This is 292 00:12:14,079 --> 00:12:17,120 how you feel about security. 293 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,880 >> Welcome. Um, at our last at our midter 294 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:22,800 conference, so JHD meets every year at 295 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,920 UT Mor conference and annual convention. 296 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,760 Um we discovered thanks to the help of 297 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,519 council member Shway that there are six 298 00:12:29,519 --> 00:12:31,760 unfilled seats on the joey highway 299 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,480 committee um six unfilled city seats. So 300 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:35,920 since then we have gone through and 301 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,600 solicited members or people to fill all 302 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,279 six of those appointments. So I will 303 00:12:41,279 --> 00:12:43,120 read off to you those individuals that 304 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:44,639 we are recommending to fill those 305 00:12:44,639 --> 00:12:47,519 vacancies. So first Murray City Engineer 306 00:12:47,519 --> 00:12:49,839 Chris Zawaspach as a region 2 307 00:12:49,839 --> 00:12:51,920 representative Vernal public works 308 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,079 director Keith Despane as a region three 309 00:12:54,079 --> 00:12:56,560 representative. Cedar City Engineer Kent 310 00:12:56,560 --> 00:12:58,399 Bugle as a region four southwest 311 00:12:58,399 --> 00:13:00,959 representative, Manti City Manager Jason 312 00:13:00,959 --> 00:13:02,480 Brown as a region four central 313 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,720 representative, Blanding City Manager 314 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,560 Pratt Redd as a region four southeast 315 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:08,800 representative and Mapleton public works 316 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,600 director, city engineer Rob Hunter as an 317 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:12,800 representative. Thank you council member 318 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,560 Edwards for that recommendation. Um so 319 00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:16,480 we're excited to get these roles filled 320 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,800 for the JHC's next meeting on September 321 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,440 10th. Um, next, you might remember that 322 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,519 back in our March meeting, we appointed 323 00:13:23,519 --> 00:13:25,680 board member and Clearfield Mayor Mark 324 00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:27,279 Shepard to the private activity bar 325 00:13:27,279 --> 00:13:29,120 review board. He now is a member of that 326 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,800 board. UCT 327 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,959 has three representatives on the PAB 328 00:13:34,959 --> 00:13:36,880 review board and one of those is North 329 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,639 Salt Lake finance director Heidi 330 00:13:38,639 --> 00:13:41,120 Bjckers. Um, her term is about to come 331 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,200 to an end on the PAB review board. So, 332 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:44,880 we're recommending that you nominate 333 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,800 Heidi Bordeckers for reappointment to 334 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,639 the PAB review board. We think she's 335 00:13:48,639 --> 00:13:50,399 done a great job on behalf of cities and 336 00:13:50,399 --> 00:13:52,320 towns on the KB review board and she's 337 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,320 excited to continue serving. And then 338 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,399 finally, before I review everything that 339 00:13:56,399 --> 00:13:58,320 I did an action item on, I'll pass it to 340 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,399 Cam to talk about Federalism Commission. 341 00:14:00,399 --> 00:14:02,240 >> Perfect. Thank you, Alexa. The Federal 342 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,240 Federalism Commission is a state 343 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,560 legislative committee, 344 00:14:06,560 --> 00:14:09,440 but we have an opportunity as of a few 345 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,880 days ago to have a league representative 346 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,680 in a non voting way participate in this 347 00:14:15,680 --> 00:14:17,199 federal commission. Here's the quick 348 00:14:17,199 --> 00:14:19,199 backstory that's reference to the memo. 349 00:14:19,199 --> 00:14:21,120 I was invited by the co-chairs of the 350 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,320 federalism commission, Representative 351 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,720 Ken Ivory and Senator Kevin Stratton to 352 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,120 speak at their federalism summit last 353 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,399 week. And then after that presentation, 354 00:14:30,399 --> 00:14:32,560 they said we really want to have local 355 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,480 government voices on the federalism 356 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:35,760 commission, which again is a legislative 357 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,760 commission. So they can't be they can't 358 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,680 be voting members but but not voting 359 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,320 members. And in my presentation, I spoke 360 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,560 about the role of local government, why 361 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,160 that matters versus the role of state 362 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,600 government federal government. Talk 363 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,880 about the legend decision and how Utah's 364 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,560 not home rule. It's not a dealing rule. 365 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,560 It's it's our own unique spot. We had 366 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:55,839 legislators there from all over the 367 00:14:55,839 --> 00:14:57,519 country and I encourage those 368 00:14:57,519 --> 00:14:59,600 legislators to partner with their state 369 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,440 leagues in the federalism conversation. 370 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker Schultz gave a keynote address 371 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,720 there. So what we're seeing is a there 372 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,959 were 10 and 10 Utah legislators there 373 00:15:08,959 --> 00:15:11,839 and quite a few were invited to said a 374 00:15:11,839 --> 00:15:13,680 bigger focus from legislator from a 375 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,160 speaker on in this federalism space. I 376 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,560 think it's opportunity for us to talk 377 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,600 about how federalism relates to local 378 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,440 decision- making at city hall. So they 379 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,279 extended this in I spoke on Wednesday, 380 00:15:27,279 --> 00:15:28,720 they followed up on Thursday and said we 381 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,199 really want the league involved and this 382 00:15:31,199 --> 00:15:33,199 is a monthly meeting and is meeting 383 00:15:33,199 --> 00:15:35,440 again this Thursday. 384 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,040 So I told them we would move as fast as 385 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,199 we could. So if there's anybody on the 386 00:15:39,199 --> 00:15:40,639 board who's interested in being part of 387 00:15:40,639 --> 00:15:42,880 the federalism commission, we could talk 388 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,959 about that now. If people want to think 389 00:15:44,959 --> 00:15:46,560 about it or want to go through our 390 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,560 normal process, we can reference the LPC 391 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,360 next week and then shoot to to join the 392 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,600 Federalism Commission in September. So 393 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,519 any any questions about the federalism 394 00:15:55,519 --> 00:15:57,920 commission? Is there anybody who's who's 395 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,240 interested in in participating in 396 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:01,360 federalism commission with 397 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,959 representative Ira Stratton or people 398 00:16:04,959 --> 00:16:06,480 want to kind of give us a second to 399 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,959 breathe on it. Look for volunteers at 400 00:16:08,959 --> 00:16:10,399 LBC and then bring it back to the board 401 00:16:10,399 --> 00:16:11,759 next month. 402 00:16:11,759 --> 00:16:13,759 >> I would be interested. I'm not available 403 00:16:13,759 --> 00:16:17,030 Thursday. 404 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,120 » I'm curious. 405 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,279 So much of their federalism commission 406 00:16:21,279 --> 00:16:25,120 work up at the capital has kind of 407 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,040 focused on a friction point between 408 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,519 state and federal, 409 00:16:29,519 --> 00:16:30,480 >> right? 410 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,240 >> Um now sometimes we sit at that 411 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,560 intersection too. Many of us have 412 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,839 federal lands. We want 413 00:16:37,839 --> 00:16:40,320 projects for working 414 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,360 friends. Sometimes maybe we think our 415 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,160 federal friends are more 416 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,440 than the state friends. Um, but it seems 417 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,120 to me this one gets a little highly 418 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,040 political because of that 419 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,240 >> federal tension between the state. So, 420 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,240 how do you see how do you see our role 421 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,000 being used? I I'm just curious if we're 422 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:04,549 going to end up being 423 00:17:04,559 --> 00:17:07,439 monkey in the middle. 424 00:17:07,439 --> 00:17:12,559 Based on last week's experience, I think 425 00:17:12,559 --> 00:17:14,079 legislators 426 00:17:14,079 --> 00:17:16,319 had their eyes opened about the conflict 427 00:17:16,319 --> 00:17:18,480 point in the federalism under the 428 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,720 federalism between state and locals as 429 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,280 well because part of the conversation 430 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,520 last week was who's responsible for what 431 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,480 role. So I in my presentation, 432 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:29,919 Congressman Kennedy was on one side of 433 00:17:29,919 --> 00:17:31,919 me, Derek Brown, attorney general was on 434 00:17:31,919 --> 00:17:33,760 the other. We were all talking about who 435 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,679 has what role in government. So I talked 436 00:17:35,679 --> 00:17:38,400 about public safety space, there's role 437 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:39,440 for the federal government, there's role 438 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,200 for state government, there's role for 439 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:42,720 city government. So as we talk about 440 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,160 federalism and who does what, they need 441 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,000 to have 442 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,480 the local government voice as well 443 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,880 talking about who's responsible for for 444 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,039 what obligation. That's why afterward 445 00:17:55,039 --> 00:17:56,559 they said we'd really like you to be 446 00:17:56,559 --> 00:17:58,559 part you and they're going to have the 447 00:17:58,559 --> 00:18:01,280 same invitation association to bring 448 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,200 that additional perspective. So yes, I 449 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,120 think inevitably most of the focus is 450 00:18:05,120 --> 00:18:06,400 going to be on attention between state 451 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,440 and federal government. I think this 452 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,679 gives us just another avenue that hasn't 453 00:18:11,679 --> 00:18:13,840 existed before to bring that additional 454 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,909 perspective. 455 00:18:17,919 --> 00:18:22,310 » Always good to be 456 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:23,919 » what time is the meeting on Thursday? So 457 00:18:23,919 --> 00:18:26,240 the federalism commission meets every 458 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:27,600 that's why I say the legislative 459 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,240 committee legis interim meetings are 460 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:31,360 Tuesday Wednesday and then the 461 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:32,880 federalism commission meets Thursday 462 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,760 every month is part of inter 463 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,679 legislators committee they already 464 00:18:37,679 --> 00:18:39,760 currently have a list of non voting 465 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,559 members um 466 00:18:42,559 --> 00:18:44,160 that they have to get permission from 467 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:45,600 the legislative management committee 468 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,440 which is leadership of the house and 469 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,360 senate to modify the committee and 470 00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:51,760 they've always ask there was no belief 471 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,440 about how the conversation went say 472 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:54,880 they've already made that ask even 473 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,880 before we've come back to this board. 474 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,080 They've asked the speaker and the 475 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,679 president to increase the number of 476 00:18:59,679 --> 00:19:02,640 members. 477 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,200 >> So that would be something they take up 478 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,830 during the session and a billip. 479 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,160 » Yeah. The legislative management during 480 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:13,840 interim this week will officially 481 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,960 consider that request. So that's why 482 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,039 yes, the federal federalism commission 483 00:19:19,039 --> 00:19:20,320 meets this Thursday, but they'll meet 484 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,320 every month like this. This actually 485 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:23,600 interesting with all the boards and 486 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,120 commissions we do this one will actually 487 00:19:25,120 --> 00:19:26,400 have the biggest time commitments 488 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,640 because some of these other boards they 489 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,559 meet quarterly. This will be every 490 00:19:30,559 --> 00:19:32,240 interim and they meet during the session 491 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:33,840 and the legislation comes through the 492 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,760 federalism commission. So again it's a unique opportunity and I wanted 493 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,840 to give that context today and you'll 494 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,440 notice we didn't bring a recommendation 495 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,360 because this happened really quickly 496 00:19:43,360 --> 00:19:46,400 last week. So if we want if we want 497 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,480 we've had a few people have expressed 498 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,000 some interest in it. If we want to just 499 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,080 run through our process then let us 500 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,160 announce it at LPC and Friday back bring 501 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,679 back the recommendations that's fine. 502 00:19:57,679 --> 00:19:59,280 We wanted just to give you all the all 503 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,520 the details now. And if we wanted to if 504 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,160 we wanted to advance name today then we 505 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,240 could potentially get it ready for this 506 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,799 Thursday. You may know how things work 507 00:20:08,799 --> 00:20:11,280 with the capital may not work for this 508 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,679 Thursday anyway. 509 00:20:13,679 --> 00:20:15,919 clean it up. 510 00:20:15,919 --> 00:20:17,440 >> Um, let's open this up for discussion. 511 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,600 I'm going to, you know, prerogative of 512 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,360 the chair here by saying, you know, I 513 00:20:21,360 --> 00:20:23,280 think there could this would be a very 514 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:27,760 interesting role for us to play. Um, and 515 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:32,559 there's, I think, a lot of value in any table we're invited to be an actual 516 00:20:32,559 --> 00:20:36,720 partner at. Um let's open it up for for 517 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,520 discussion on how the board continues to 518 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:44,390 seize this. 519 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,480 » So that was around in my prior life and 520 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,080 prior career when the federalism 521 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,400 commission was created. It was clearly 522 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,600 around public lands and complex 523 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,760 that conflict and the collaborations 524 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,520 goes back and forth between the state 525 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,559 defense. I think it's it's it has always 526 00:21:00,559 --> 00:21:03,440 struck me in the conflict of 527 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,000 local state as well and how it conflicts 528 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,000 with the goals and desires of federal 529 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,200 commission. I think this is a really 530 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:10,400 good opportunity for us to have pretty 531 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,400 key voice. I think it could really help 532 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,360 a rural uh local elected as well. 533 00:21:15,360 --> 00:21:17,840 >> Um because I'm sure that public lands 534 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,679 element does not go away. I think that's 535 00:21:19,679 --> 00:21:22,480 the the bulk of the of the conversation. 536 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,880 So if there's someone in in a rural 537 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,000 community, I think that be a good fit. 538 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,559 Mayor piggybacking what mayorski said, 539 00:21:30,559 --> 00:21:33,200 representative Alrech was at the meeting 540 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,039 and the question he asked Congressman 541 00:21:35,039 --> 00:21:39,760 Kennedy in the night as well was that 542 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,600 Representative Alrech who lives in 543 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,919 Richfield represents central Utah said 544 00:21:43,919 --> 00:21:46,320 he viewed it as a failure of federalism 545 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,159 that over the course of the last three 546 00:21:48,159 --> 00:21:50,720 years his house district has basically 547 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,600 burned to the ground because of all the 548 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,240 fires that have sparked have been 549 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,400 sparked on federal land in the mountain 550 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,440 ranges in central Utah. So yes, the 551 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,000 public lands piece will be a component 552 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,000 of it. But it was also interesting how 553 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,480 much we talked about other angles like 554 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,400 we actually spent almost as much time 555 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,000 talking policy in this overall 556 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,440 discussion as we did public lands. and 557 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,760 Representative Ivory and Senator Quan, 558 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,559 Republican and Democrat, talked about uh 559 00:22:22,559 --> 00:22:25,520 coming together to raise federalism 560 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,360 concerns about how the federal 561 00:22:27,360 --> 00:22:29,280 government has been acting on 562 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,760 immigration policy and what that means 563 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,240 for local governments. So, I think 564 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:35,919 public lands will always be one of the 565 00:22:35,919 --> 00:22:37,280 key issues, but it was a bigger 566 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,960 conversation last night. 567 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,720 >> Any other feedback from the board? 568 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,000 And we're looking for a board member or 569 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,760 a elected official. 570 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,000 >> We are up for discussion. So this is up 571 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,200 for feedback. So it 572 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,320 >> could be a a city staff person also. 573 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:56,960 Possibly. 574 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,120 >> It could possibly be. I'm going to tell 575 00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:00,720 you that I think based on the fact that 576 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,440 the others are all elected that probably 577 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:04,000 where we 578 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,200 >> Okay, that's that was 579 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,039 >> I would tend to agree. I think the board 580 00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:08,720 of elected would carry them away. 581 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,880 >> Yeah, that's I was thinking that was but 582 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,520 I wasn't quite sure. And if there's no 583 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,120 it doesn't need to be me. I would like 584 00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:19,120 to anyway if the representative 585 00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:21,520 might be for that much time. I don't 586 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,760 have federal lands in Western but there 587 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:37,110 are other federal polic 588 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:39,520 but I do have an interest to how the 589 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,159 federal government interacts with local 590 00:23:42,159 --> 00:23:44,559 government as you were mentioning. We 591 00:23:44,559 --> 00:23:46,000 have the FBI that comes into West 592 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,159 Jordan. We don't even know they're 593 00:23:48,159 --> 00:23:49,760 coming. They do all their stuff. Then 594 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,039 they go and they say, "Oh, by the way, 595 00:23:51,039 --> 00:23:53,200 we did this your city." It's like, "You 596 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,039 know what? We'd love to work with you. 597 00:23:55,039 --> 00:23:56,320 Why don't you talk to us before you 598 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,760 come? 599 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,280 >> I think we all have that." And so it's 600 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,679 not, as Cameron mentioned, it's not just 601 00:24:03,679 --> 00:24:06,320 the federal aspect. There's a big deal. 602 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,559 And then Representative Ivory, he will 603 00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:11,679 be the next reelected. So he'll continue 604 00:24:11,679 --> 00:24:13,279 sort of in that position. 605 00:24:13,279 --> 00:24:15,200 >> I think there's also a lot of housing 606 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,279 overlap. You know, I know Mayor Shepard 607 00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:19,520 with his role with uh the National 608 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,520 League of Cities, you know, our our 609 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,200 housing component with, you know, what 610 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,720 the feds are sending us there. That's 611 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,640 got a federalism overlap that the state 612 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,880 may not see in the same way we do. The 613 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,120 public lands, I think, is clear. Um the 614 00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:32,799 interaction on law enforcement, not just 615 00:24:32,799 --> 00:24:34,799 FBI, but ICE, is something obviously we 616 00:24:34,799 --> 00:24:38,159 we've all uh experienced. And then 617 00:24:38,159 --> 00:24:39,919 there's um you know, a significant 618 00:24:39,919 --> 00:24:41,919 amount of grants and appropriations 619 00:24:41,919 --> 00:24:44,320 we're all interfacing with the feds on. 620 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,159 So, to me, this one strikes me as being 621 00:24:46,159 --> 00:24:47,440 a one we should probably take pretty 622 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,039 seriously. 623 00:24:49,039 --> 00:24:51,760 >> Um, would everyone be comfortable if we 624 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:52,880 put this maybe through our normal 625 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,120 process and we ask for people to to 626 00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:57,600 apply and then we can take it up. We'll 627 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,520 probably miss 628 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,760 >> we'll miss we'll miss Thursday in active 629 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,320 participation, but we can send staff. We 630 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:05,760 usually have staff following that 631 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,159 commission anyway, but especially in 632 00:25:08,159 --> 00:25:09,760 light of the conversation this 633 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,000 immediately sparked. I think it 634 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,480 validates it validates taking it 635 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,240 seriously and running it through the 636 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,559 normal process. Get the right pool of 637 00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:20,960 candidates and then you can 638 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:21,520 make 639 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,120 >> one I have one more question. So we 640 00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:24,400 talked about federal lands but what 641 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,240 about environmental policies? So are 642 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,600 they talking about water? Are they 643 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,320 talking about air quality um all those 644 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,640 sorts of things as well? 645 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,360 >> That this this commission has covered 646 00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:36,960 it's been a little more I will say a 647 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,159 little more maybe rural public lands. 648 00:25:40,159 --> 00:25:42,799 um environmental 649 00:25:42,799 --> 00:25:44,799 engagement focused. I don't know if 650 00:25:44,799 --> 00:25:46,240 they've thought deeply about the law 651 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,960 enforcement angle or the housing angle 652 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,960 or some of those others based on my 653 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,320 experience of the capital with them. Um 654 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,559 but that might be 655 00:25:56,559 --> 00:25:58,159 again if they're now if their eyes are 656 00:25:58,159 --> 00:26:00,799 now a little bit open to the role we 657 00:26:00,799 --> 00:26:03,600 play um 658 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,640 then perhaps um this will be one. 659 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,120 transportation would be another another 660 00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:11,919 topic that they spent a lot of time 661 00:26:11,919 --> 00:26:13,520 talking about. So 662 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,520 >> So Mary, here's here's what I'm gonna 663 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:16,960 recommend based on this conversation. 664 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,559 One, we'll run through the normal 665 00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:20,640 process. Two, 666 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,640 we'll send out to the board a link to 667 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,120 the federal commission. Um, I've got 668 00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:27,039 more info here, but due to time, I think 669 00:26:27,039 --> 00:26:28,880 since we're not making decision today, 670 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,240 we'll send it out so you can just 671 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,400 familiarize yourself with who's off 672 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,080 legislators and what issues they've 673 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,720 looking at, and then you can decide, is 674 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:37,919 it somebody in this room or there's 675 00:26:37,919 --> 00:26:39,360 somebody you want to recommend that 676 00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:41,919 would make the most sense. You also know 677 00:26:41,919 --> 00:26:44,480 they currently do have some non- voting 678 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,960 people on the commission, most of whom 679 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,600 are not elected, but they are there on 680 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,279 behalf of of their bosses. So, like Lisa 681 00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:55,760 Rossi is there. Congress anymore. 682 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,120 Interestingly, one of the current non 683 00:26:57,120 --> 00:26:58,880 voting members is Ben Gat. So, I don't 684 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,120 know how that will change to our 685 00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:03,520 election results later this year, but 686 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,600 we'll send out we'll send out more 687 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,919 information and context here. We'll 688 00:27:07,919 --> 00:27:09,919 solicit feedback at LPC next week and 689 00:27:09,919 --> 00:27:12,880 then bring back a recommendation. So, I 690 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,400 think that works. Everyone comfortable 691 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,320 with that process? Okay. So, that'll 692 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,520 return us back to um the list of people 693 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,159 that Alexa ran through that we do need 694 00:27:22,159 --> 00:27:26,320 motions for um uh on the cyber security 695 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,559 commission, the jointway commission, the 696 00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:32,080 private and the private activity on the 697 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,400 board. Uh Mayor TR since you joined us, 698 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,240 thank you for your service on the cyber 699 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,480 security commission. um that you feel 700 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,480 like you have to leave us. 701 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:52,224 Uh we're going to replace you. 702 00:27:52,234 --> 00:27:52,240 [clears throat] 703 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,640 >> Well, we're like happy sad for you. 704 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,200 >> Thanks, Mayor Bradshaw. Yeah. 705 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,640 Is there anyone who's prepared to make a 706 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,159 motion uh on the individuals that have 707 00:28:04,159 --> 00:28:07,360 been proposed for those three different 708 00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:08,000 areas? 709 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,279 >> I move to approve the recommendations 710 00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:13,600 for the cyber security commission. I'll 711 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:18,000 have to join highway committee and a few 712 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,919 motion from you. We have second council 713 00:28:19,919 --> 00:28:24,480 member Edwards. Any further discussion? 714 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,000 Seeing none, we call the vote. All in 715 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,799 favor, please say I. Any 716 00:28:28,799 --> 00:28:36,549 oppos? Passes unanimously. 717 00:28:36,559 --> 00:28:39,840 » I'll make sure that. Okay. 718 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,799 >> And uh 719 00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:46,640 Tran, if if um you know, I look at this 720 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,559 the mayor and pout. I want to see Silver 721 00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:51,840 Streamy. I know that's 722 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,919 >> um Seberini. 723 00:28:53,919 --> 00:28:56,240 Um perhaps there's a connection that 724 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,279 could be made to do a you know a dump 725 00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:09,515 handoff and facilitate that. 726 00:29:09,525 --> 00:29:11,990 [laughter] 727 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,080 » All right. Thank you for that. And then 728 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,240 uh for those that are interested in the 729 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,480 federalism commission um you know stay 730 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,480 tuned for LPC and then keep an eye out 731 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,600 for uh an alert from the staff to um be 732 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,600 ready to send it 733 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,120 resume 734 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,029 your support letter. 735 00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:35,760 Uh so let's move on to our fiscal year 736 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,200 20 2026 year end budget report and our 737 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,080 Q4 check registry. Nick, I'm going to 738 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,600 turn this over to you. 739 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,760 >> Thank you, mayor. Uh, we are running a 740 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,679 little behind, so I will want to go 741 00:29:47,679 --> 00:29:50,000 through this in my usual brief fashion 742 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,679 for you. Uh, this year or last year, FY 743 00:29:53,679 --> 00:29:55,440 2026, 744 00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:00,159 uh, we operated at an $18,145 745 00:30:00,159 --> 00:30:02,480 loss. Now, while that may sound uh 746 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,720 scary, that is completely planned with 747 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,960 the use of our reserve funds. In fact, 748 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,480 we did not use all of the reserve funds 749 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,399 that we were planning on using. So that 750 00:30:10,399 --> 00:30:12,159 is where we sit at the end of the year. 751 00:30:12,159 --> 00:30:13,840 As a reminder, our policy is for our 752 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,200 reserves to remain between 25 and 50% of 753 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,679 previous budget year. Um we also have 754 00:30:19,679 --> 00:30:21,760 reserves budgeted in this year because 755 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,279 our projection showed us that we would 756 00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:25,600 not hit that exact mark. So uh we will 757 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:30,159 plan on that for FY27 as well. 758 00:30:30,159 --> 00:30:32,960 Um, in general revenue, we collected a 759 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,360 little over $70,000 more than budgeted, 760 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,000 mostly due to higher than expected in 761 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,960 interest uh revenue that came in. Our 762 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,000 membership dues are 70% of annual 763 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,720 general general revenue, about 64% of 764 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,679 our core budget and those were 99.9% 765 00:30:49,679 --> 00:30:51,679 collected at the end of the fiscal year. 766 00:30:51,679 --> 00:30:54,399 Sponsor donation is 10% of an annual 767 00:30:54,399 --> 00:30:57,039 general revenue and we had 102% of that 768 00:30:57,039 --> 00:31:00,480 collected. Registration fees are 13.5% 769 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,480 of general revenue and we had just over 770 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,200 100% collected there. Uh exhibit space 771 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,760 as well together with our event revenue 772 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,480 was at 106.1% 773 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,520 at the end of the fiscal year. 774 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,110 Um 775 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,360 so most of that those as I mentioned the 776 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,039 uh unrestricted reserves that we use 777 00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:23,520 most of that was uh funded that most of 778 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,880 that was used to fund some special 779 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,799 projects like our making sense of 780 00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:28,399 dollars update our powers and duties 781 00:31:28,399 --> 00:31:31,520 update our uh property tax videos those 782 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,760 were all special projects. It's 783 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,360 important to remember that when you see 784 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,679 the revenue, both our unrestricted and 785 00:31:37,679 --> 00:31:39,600 our restricted reserves, they're 786 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,440 budgeted in, but we never actually see 787 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:42,960 that revenue on the budget because we've 788 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,000 already collected it. And that's where 789 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,640 that negative comes from. Uh we funded 790 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,360 the LAA program through restricted 791 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,360 reserves um in most of through FY26. We 792 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,720 also received some additional funding 793 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,080 from the office of the property rights 794 00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:00,080 on budsman to give scholarships for LAA 795 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,000 qualifying communities to come attend 796 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,840 our conferences. Uh so that's why you'll 797 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,159 see a small amount of LA revenue 798 00:32:06,159 --> 00:32:07,919 actually coming in. We also had 799 00:32:07,919 --> 00:32:09,360 additional state funed technical 800 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,000 assistance uh from the office of data 801 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,840 privacy and the department of workforce 802 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,760 services. The department of workforce 803 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,559 services grant was a three-year grant. 804 00:32:18,559 --> 00:32:20,799 Uh when we first budgeted the amount, we 805 00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:22,399 did not have a final contract with them. 806 00:32:22,399 --> 00:32:23,919 So we budgeted the full amount of the 807 00:32:23,919 --> 00:32:25,440 grant in this year. That's actually 808 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,120 going to be stretched over 13 or three 809 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,720 years, but that's why you see a small 810 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,039 amount left. 811 00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:36,640 Uh expenditures overall we uh hit 82.4% 812 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,120 uh of our total budget with 82% of 813 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,880 actual revenue collected. So that's why 814 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,360 we have that that negative amount. 815 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,440 Personnel accounts for a little over 816 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,679 half of our core budget and it was 97.2% 817 00:32:49,679 --> 00:32:51,679 expended at the end of the year. 818 00:32:51,679 --> 00:32:53,919 Operating and program expenses uh 819 00:32:53,919 --> 00:32:56,480 account for just under 17% of core 820 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,120 budget and we spent 88.4% 821 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,840 of that. But then expenditures a quarter 822 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,000 of our core budget and they were 89% 823 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,159 expended at the end of the year. Grant 824 00:33:06,159 --> 00:33:08,559 and special projects account for 7% of 825 00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:10,399 our core budget and they were just under 826 00:33:10,399 --> 00:33:11,919 76% 827 00:33:11,919 --> 00:33:13,919 expended at the end of this fiscal year. 828 00:33:13,919 --> 00:33:16,159 And state funed technical assistance in 829 00:33:16,159 --> 00:33:19,440 this year accounted for 19% of our total 830 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,519 budgeted expenditure. know, keep in mind 831 00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:24,240 that is that large 700,000, so it's not 832 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,799 really 19% of our total budget. Uh, and 833 00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:29,440 those were only 40% expended at the end 834 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,519 of the fiscal year. Um, this report 835 00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:35,360 gives us a good idea of what actually 836 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:36,960 came in and out of this fiscal year. It 837 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,679 has our cash on there. It does it is not 838 00:33:39,679 --> 00:33:41,440 the equivalent of our audited financial 839 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,519 statements that we'll receive and review 840 00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:45,519 in December. It does not include 841 00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:47,840 non-cash items like depreciation, 842 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,919 capitalization of our equipment uh that 843 00:33:49,919 --> 00:33:52,320 we have in organizational modernization 844 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,679 and the RS pension liability uh gazby 68 845 00:33:55,679 --> 00:33:57,600 figure. All of that will be included in 846 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,679 our audited financial statements. But I 847 00:33:59,679 --> 00:34:01,120 think this gives a better idea of what 848 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,960 actual cash flow is happening in the 849 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,080 fiscal year. Ultimately, we are in uh 850 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,000 good fiscal footing. Finances are in 851 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,240 good shape. Uh and we're working with uh 852 00:34:10,240 --> 00:34:12,000 Dave Sanderson, our financial oversight 853 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,560 consultant, to prepare uh our uh 854 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,800 year-end stuff for the auditing firms. 855 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,639 You'll have an audit in December to 856 00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:20,480 review. At this point, we would ask the 857 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,159 board to approve the year-end financial 858 00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:25,200 report and the attached check register 859 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,200 uh nine pages at the end of this report 860 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,040 that are all the checks that we cut in 861 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,599 the Q4. If you have any questions about 862 00:34:33,599 --> 00:34:36,480 any particulars on this register, we 863 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:41,200 have the documentation in the office. 864 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,280 >> Any questions, comments, feedback for 865 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,280 Nick on the information he's presented 866 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:53,669 on the the budget. 867 00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:55,599 I am not 868 00:34:55,599 --> 00:34:58,000 hearing any from those in the room and 869 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,440 I'm assuming that if there was a hand up 870 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:04,550 in the chat, you would alert us. 871 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,800 Okay. So then that means that at this 872 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,359 point uh we need we would be looking for 873 00:35:09,359 --> 00:35:11,599 a motion to approve the year end 874 00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:13,920 financial report and then to approve the 875 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,119 April and June April through June check 876 00:35:17,119 --> 00:35:19,680 register. 877 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,440 >> I'm happy to make that motion that we 878 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,000 approve the year end financial report 879 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,670 and check 880 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,030 motion. 881 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,359 Um, seeing no further discussion, we'll 882 00:35:33,359 --> 00:35:35,200 call for vote. All in favor of the 883 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,480 approval of the year and financial 884 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,280 report and the April check register, 885 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,280 please say I. 886 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,630 >> I 887 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,829 opposed 888 00:35:47,839 --> 00:35:50,800 hearing none. That passes unanimously. 889 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,000 Thank you, Nick, to you and your team. I 890 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,599 um 891 00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:59,520 uh enjoy your reports and um that you 892 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,760 put in the percentages so that I don't 893 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,040 have to wonder about the math. 894 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,119 >> Absolutely. 895 00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:10,000 >> Okay. Um 896 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,520 we're not quite caught up on time, but 897 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,280 we're doing a little better. Uh so our 898 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,839 engagement report um Molly we're going 899 00:36:15,839 --> 00:36:17,520 to turn time over to you to do the 900 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,240 engagement report and update us on the 901 00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:21,920 annual convention and the other 902 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,400 programs. 903 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:25,920 We'll do what we can to get caught up on 904 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:30,640 time. So the start of EMS 206 905 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,920 on that October 26 through 28 at the 906 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,520 Salt House. Um we are in negotiations 907 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,880 right now with uh Frank Abigail our 908 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,160 keynote speaker. Um he is the 909 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:53,990 inspiration 910 00:36:54,000 --> 00:37:02,550 if you can. 911 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,960 Um so we're working on that. We're 912 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,599 really looking forward to it. Um, since 913 00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:09,920 this will be our last time in Salt Lake 914 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,280 for a while, we've really been working 915 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,040 with the city to identify some good 916 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,440 local tours. We are expanding the mobile 917 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,040 tour framework. We're going to pull that 918 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,040 outside of the traditional two-day 919 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,400 footprints. We'll either do it the day 920 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,880 before or the day after. Um, and we're 921 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,440 really excited about those three mobile 922 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:26,480 tours that we're going to be able to 923 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:27,760 offer with a bit of an extended 924 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,640 footprint, including Salt Lake airport. 925 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,640 Um, the nine line, which is going to 926 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,400 include like a bike ride with green 927 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,119 bikes, and then the 928 00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:40,640 point. Um we'll once again be doing the 929 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,119 additional conflict training with dog 930 00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:44,880 warning the person following that was 931 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,599 really successful last year. Um we're 932 00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:51,040 working on final workshops now. Um some 933 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,720 key themes we're planning on for our 934 00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:55,119 general sessions include data centers AI 935 00:37:55,119 --> 00:37:57,359 land use as always um and our standard 936 00:37:57,359 --> 00:38:00,240 kind of fair within that. And then for 937 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:02,640 caucuses, um we've had a lot of success 938 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,599 with the last two conferences pulling um 939 00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:07,680 caucuses out having them dispersed 940 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,920 throughout the conference footprint with 941 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,800 specific topic. And um unfortunately, 942 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,079 it's a grill this year, but we're 943 00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:16,640 looking into a disaster response for 944 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,599 that this year 945 00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:22,240 for everyone. Um and Katie, I'll hand it 946 00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:23,280 over to you to talk about the 947 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,599 contracting for 27th venue. 948 00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:27,599 >> Yep. So we are still planning on 949 00:38:27,599 --> 00:38:31,200 September 28th to 950 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,440 September 30th at Mountain America Expo 951 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,280 Center. If all goes well, we should be 952 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,920 able to go to contract August 28th. They 953 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,640 are very specific to the date for that. 954 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,200 And then if our backup plan is Utah 955 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,720 Valley Convention Center for October 956 00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:49,359 for like October 957 00:38:49,359 --> 00:38:51,280 exactly 958 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,640 um and that's based on the board 959 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,640 direction gave us last month. So make 960 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,320 sure that feedback probably posted by 961 00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:59,920 our next board meeting as to what that 962 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,079 looks like 2027. 963 00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:04,400 As far as our LA program update, it's a 964 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:10,640 quick one. Um, before we jump to LA, any thoughts or feedback about the 965 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,359 caucus plan on the dis disaster 966 00:39:13,359 --> 00:39:15,760 response? We thought we're g we're going 967 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,040 to invite some of the mayors who've been 968 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,640 on the front lines unfortunately this 969 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,880 year to maybe go caucus to caucus talk 970 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,320 about their experience and facilitate 971 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,359 discussion various caucuses of lessons 972 00:39:25,359 --> 00:39:26,960 learned and what people can take from 973 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,880 it. 974 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:33,589 >> Why don't you get the cop names right? 975 00:39:33,599 --> 00:39:35,200 » Will you have like a component of 976 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,560 emergency management going forward? 977 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:39,760 That's like the biggest topic we're 978 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,200 having. I don't know how we had this 979 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,119 wildfire in some county, but that's what 980 00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:44,240 our residents want to talk about like 981 00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:51,270 what is your first plan? What is happen 982 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,200 » and to that suggestions and we've 983 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,760 unfortunately there are a lot of mayors 984 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,079 and council members and chief who have 985 00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:02,079 had some experiences this year. So we 986 00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:04,960 have no shortage of potential people to 987 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,720 get up the top. So if you have 988 00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:09,440 suggestions that could talk about that 989 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,119 and anyone who has experience you know 990 00:40:11,119 --> 00:40:15,200 with planning open summ 991 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,000 had these numbers um and we want to 992 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,280 honor that but we also want to make sure 993 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,599 that we can spread 994 00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:25,200 >> I think I don't know sorry 995 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,359 um for those that don't know Park City 996 00:40:27,359 --> 00:40:29,680 had this notification go out last Sunday 997 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,560 that was false so the whole entire Soma 998 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,560 and Wasach County got in an evacuation 999 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,079 notice We were in the middle of the 1000 00:40:36,079 --> 00:40:37,839 Kimble Arts Festival with like 3,000 1001 00:40:37,839 --> 00:40:38,960 people on the street who weren't 1002 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,960 driving. It was very fascinating to 1003 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,440 watch how many people were just like and 1004 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,920 like just 1005 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,440 like and I knew that it was wrong 1006 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,200 because I was like this isn't right. But 1007 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,599 um it was it was pretty interesting you 1008 00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:53,599 know now going through with the county 1009 00:40:53,599 --> 00:40:56,560 and the state of what went wrong and 1010 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,400 what do we do when there is actually a 1011 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,319 real emergency and only Peniper was 1012 00:41:00,319 --> 00:41:02,319 supposed to evacuate not you know 1013 00:41:02,319 --> 00:41:04,640 100,000 people. So, it was a little 1014 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,079 chaotic. [laughter] 1015 00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:08,000 So, we're uh working with the aftermath 1016 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,920 of that um at the county and the city 1017 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,720 level right now. So, that's a decent 1018 00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:15,359 thing to to consider having someone talk 1019 00:41:15,359 --> 00:41:17,040 about how those communications work. We 1020 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,800 had something happen earlier in Daves 1021 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,160 County where West Bountiful had a 1022 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,800 dynamite situation they were 1023 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,319 >> dealing with and I think the entire 1024 00:41:24,319 --> 00:41:28,400 state got the the potential blast alert. 1025 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,880 And so to me it seems like there's some training that everyone 1026 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,079 needs to have when you're going to use 1027 00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:35,440 that system that might be really 1028 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:35,839 helpful. 1029 00:41:35,839 --> 00:41:37,359 >> And then we were told because we 1030 00:41:37,359 --> 00:41:39,680 immediately said have you know the chief 1031 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,359 of police and the chief of fire say you 1032 00:41:41,359 --> 00:41:43,119 need to reverse it. And so everyone 1033 00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:44,640 knows and they said no it's not an 1034 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:49,520 emergency to reverse it because then maybe the people in won't leave and 1035 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,359 so that even caused more problems 1036 00:41:51,359 --> 00:41:56,640 because there were people evacuating. So, it was quite it's been a 1037 00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:02,230 quite fascinating week. 1038 00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:04,880 » I was just going to say that um American 1039 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,560 Public Power uh put it on a Zoom 1040 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,280 training on crisis communication about 1041 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,760 two months ago. It was excellent. So, 1042 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,079 I'll get that information that would the 1043 00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:18,160 individual that did that they contracted 1044 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,960 with the person that 1045 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,599 >> is excellent. I know the focus here is 1046 00:42:23,599 --> 00:42:25,760 all on the fire side. We've seen a lot 1047 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,480 of uh earthquakes across the globe. 1048 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:28,880 Yeah. 1049 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,560 >> And some high levels and you know we're 1050 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,400 are prone for that here on the whole 1051 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,760 front. Now it's a different disaster. Uh 1052 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,400 one could take a look for this happen 1053 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,680 immediately. So the focus I know is on 1054 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,079 fires here but we also should probably 1055 00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:46,720 make sure that 1056 00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:47,920 >> there's disaster response. 1057 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,240 >> Yeah. Yeah. That's good. 1058 00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:52,800 >> Fire is the most common. 1059 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,400 But 1060 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,000 um I mean with mayor right online like 1061 00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,280 there's been 1062 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:00,480 >> okay 1063 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,000 >> a strange awful things. 1064 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,000 Yeah. 1065 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,440 >> Yeah. And and that I mean it's a caucus 1066 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,000 meeting so I would spend 1067 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,240 management. So if you have thoughts 1068 00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:14,720 about you know I mean caucus is 45 to 60 1069 00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:17,119 minutes you know we want to leave the 1070 00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:20,079 ship. Well so um if there if there are 1071 00:43:20,079 --> 00:43:21,520 thoughts about you know what we should 1072 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,520 cover yeah people we should have cover 1073 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,200 that. But yeah we I mean we want to talk 1074 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,599 about flooding earthquake fire meteor 1075 00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:31,430 showers whatever it is. 1076 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,119 » Yeah. 1077 00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:34,960 And then just one other note related to 1078 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,440 annual part of the reason we're working 1079 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,240 with Frank is yes he has an interesting 1080 00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:43,440 story and several people reacted to that 1081 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,760 but because we were looking at the big 1082 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,520 themes that Molly mentioned about data 1083 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,880 center cyber security AI two months ago 1084 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,400 nobody was talking about flock and now 1085 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,240 there's a different headline every day 1086 00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:56,640 about flock we'll talk about next week 1087 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,960 and so 1088 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,800 in his professional career has made a 1089 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,760 career working in cyber security space. 1090 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:04,880 So, we thought it would be a nice way to 1091 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,400 kick off those bigger conversations to 1092 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,589 have 1093 00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:10,960 an interesting story 1094 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,400 >> and it's a great movie to watch when 1095 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,280 you're flying on. 1096 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:19,320 >> It's not a 1097 00:44:19,330 --> 00:44:22,710 [laughter] 1098 00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:25,119 » excellent. So, anything else within 1099 00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:28,000 annual this year? If we're gonna keep 1100 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,319 dancing around Tom Hanks, we're gonna be 1101 00:44:30,319 --> 00:44:33,599 over Tom Hanks. 1102 00:44:33,599 --> 00:44:39,750 I will [clears throat] not 1103 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,319 have some strong 1104 00:44:42,319 --> 00:44:46,175 revenue budget 1105 00:44:46,185 --> 00:44:55,589 [laughter] 1106 00:44:55,599 --> 00:45:01,670 brought up. That's been a real big deal. 1107 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,640 Flatters out there 1108 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,200 and there's no good source of 1109 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,359 information to put out to the public. 1110 00:45:09,359 --> 00:45:11,040 the information I'm giving to him is 1111 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,280 well this is what we can tell you from 1112 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,440 our city's house you know so I said well 1113 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,359 now I have to trust the city is there 1114 00:45:17,359 --> 00:45:19,119 another source another place of 1115 00:45:19,119 --> 00:45:21,200 information we can put out to the public 1116 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,280 >> I think 1117 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,520 for the most part 1118 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:26,800 so far behind 1119 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:27,920 >> I just wonder if this would be a good 1120 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,440 topic for 1121 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,440 >> this is going to come up in legislation 1122 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,319 this set so I would suggest it's 1123 00:45:34,319 --> 00:45:36,960 probably more like an LPC is going to 1124 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,240 need to work through this throughout the 1125 00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:39,599 fall because We're going to be dealing 1126 00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:43,280 with bills that impact what our law 1127 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:44,800 enforcement agencies can do, how we 1128 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,400 interface with state public safety, 1129 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:49,839 you know, where the state is choosing to 1130 00:45:49,839 --> 00:45:51,119 put them in our cities that we don't 1131 00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:56,000 control, how the work. So, I may need to 1132 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,760 do some training after the fact, but I 1133 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,720 expect our landscape is going to shift 1134 00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:02,800 in January of 27 1135 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,280 >> and so we might just have to be reacting 1136 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,000 more real time in LPC. But I agree with 1137 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,520 you, 1138 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,839 Joe Hamps, who has received emails about 1139 00:46:11,839 --> 00:46:14,400 block counsel. 1140 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,880 >> Maybe what we really just need is a um 1141 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,880 counseling support session. 1142 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,960 >> Have any of you have any of you had 1143 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,520 people show up at your council meetings? 1144 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,760 >> Yes. 1145 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:30,069 this question 1146 00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:33,040 because one of the things 1147 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,480 what it looks like and I think we just 1148 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:35,760 got the representative sample of what 1149 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,359 our answers are going to look like next 1150 00:46:37,359 --> 00:46:39,040 week. Yeah. Trying to get a handle on 1151 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,040 that and I've heard from several mayors 1152 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,800 like I didn't even know about much. It 1153 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,040 turns out we got them in our city. So 1154 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,079 that's something we're all trying to get 1155 00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:49,920 our hand. Um, and then just noting that 1156 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,880 uh, Mayor Wright said for an idea that 1157 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,560 Wayne County had some serious issues 1158 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,119 when they had um, awful murders that 1159 00:46:57,119 --> 00:46:58,960 took place and how they communicated as 1160 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,119 well. So, communication is clearly a hot 1161 00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:04,560 topic. Keep in mind, okay, Molly, uh, 1162 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,280 LAA program. So, I'll be quick. Um, our 1163 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:08,480 funding was restored, but we're 1164 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,599 negotiating that GOP contract now. Um, 1165 00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:13,680 everything else we can chat about next 1166 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,160 month. Um, as far as the engagement 1167 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,440 report goes, I want to make sure there's 1168 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,839 some time for that. Um, we looked 1169 00:47:19,839 --> 00:47:22,079 through our membership engagement for 1170 00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:25,040 the last fiscal year, including email, 1171 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:29,280 our annual year annual, um, LTC or 1172 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,760 webinars and participation of the LA 1173 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,359 program. Um, and we found that we really 1174 00:47:35,359 --> 00:47:36,880 have strong membership engagement 1175 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,359 overall. Um, as this group will 1176 00:47:39,359 --> 00:47:42,319 remember, you gave us two broad 1177 00:47:42,319 --> 00:47:45,760 priorities. um within uh the engagement 1178 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,359 team and one is to engage with league 1179 00:47:47,359 --> 00:47:48,560 members to strengthen their connection 1180 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,960 to the organization and tackle their 1181 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,040 ongoing challenges. The second to 1182 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,800 provide league resources and events that 1183 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,319 meet the varied needs of our membership. 1184 00:47:58,319 --> 00:48:01,040 So within that when we were going 1185 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,800 through those numbers we found that 1186 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,960 email uh is definitely the strongest way 1187 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,880 we communicate with members. Um we have 1188 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,079 over 145 communities that have at least 1189 00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:13,599 one person opening each uh 1190 00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:16,319 Friday email each week. Um and then even 1191 00:48:16,319 --> 00:48:21,359 for our bottom portile participants um 1192 00:48:21,359 --> 00:48:24,720 someone from that community. 1193 00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:27,839 Um so it's really strong engagement. I 1194 00:48:27,839 --> 00:48:29,520 think it's really a process that we need 1195 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,440 to make sure 1196 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,520 that email 1197 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,680 of it. Um, we'll get into this a bit 1198 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,000 with kind of John coming on the team and 1199 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,280 the expansion are there, but we're 1200 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:40,480 really hoping that we can better 1201 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,520 leverage audience segmentation so that 1202 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,839 folks are content that directly applies 1203 00:48:45,839 --> 00:48:48,480 to them. Um, in addition to kind of the 1204 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,480 general pieces um, additionally then we 1205 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,319 look at our inerson stuff that obviously 1206 00:48:54,319 --> 00:48:56,800 is going to be more variable. um that's 1207 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,200 I think based on geography and then also 1208 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,240 just based on kind of barriers to access 1209 00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:04,640 um and not necessarily like the cost of 1210 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,880 the annual convention per se but also a 1211 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,480 lot of people are working during the day 1212 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,880 and so they have the flexibility to 1213 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:15,599 attend for example um and so I think 1214 00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:18,160 we've been seeing that you know a lack 1215 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,319 of inerson attendance isn't necessarily 1216 00:49:20,319 --> 00:49:23,440 a lack of interest um but really a lack 1217 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,319 of resources able to make 1218 00:49:26,319 --> 00:49:28,559 Um, so really trying to think through 1219 00:49:28,559 --> 00:49:31,520 how we can better leverage that. Um, and 1220 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,760 I think we also saw that our response 1221 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,200 regional events, we don't have the 1222 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,680 actual participation numbers for all of 1223 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,680 those this year, but they're really 1224 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,960 important because it does 1225 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,240 in the evenings or the lunch hour. We 1226 00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:48,800 are going 1227 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,920 to ease 1228 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,440 way for them to interact with us. Um, We 1229 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,760 are we doing that really well this year. 1230 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,000 We've already uh collaborated with the 1231 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,839 basin um and R six for their um state 1232 00:50:03,839 --> 00:50:05,760 regional events. We've done sub regional 1233 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,359 events in Washington County, Castle, 1234 00:50:09,359 --> 00:50:11,839 um North Logan, and then we've also been 1235 00:50:11,839 --> 00:50:14,400 really active with a lot of the comps 1236 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,079 throughout their meetings on 1237 00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:18,079 particularly cross-section, but also 1238 00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:20,480 throughout the state. Um and then this 1239 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:24,640 fall, we'll be doing more events with 1240 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,079 county with Serta and BRA. Um so we kind 1241 00:50:28,079 --> 00:50:30,000 of ticked off all the big regions of the 1242 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,319 state to have those regional and sub 1243 00:50:32,319 --> 00:50:33,680 regional events and making sure we're 1244 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:37,359 going out and interacting with members. 1245 00:50:37,359 --> 00:50:42,000 Um beyond that um of those that didn't 1246 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,400 really attend anything um in person with 1247 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,880 the league or attend LPC, we identified 1248 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:53,990 34 communities 1249 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,119 So really making sure that we are uh 1250 00:50:57,119 --> 00:50:59,119 capitalizing on what we're doing for 1251 00:50:59,119 --> 00:51:02,480 Friday facts um and making that the best 1252 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,240 weekly email it can be. Um and then also 1253 00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:08,160 continuing to improve our our engagement 1254 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:09,680 measurements. So right now like I said 1255 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,160 we don't have the data necessarily for 1256 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,319 who attended each all of our regional 1257 00:51:14,319 --> 00:51:16,079 and subregional events. get a good idea 1258 00:51:16,079 --> 00:51:18,160 of it, but making sure that we are 1259 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,319 better capturing that and when it's a 1260 00:51:20,319 --> 00:51:22,240 partner organizing it, making sure we're 1261 00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:24,480 getting that data from them. So, 1262 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,640 overall, I would say the the engagement 1263 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,599 amongst our members is very strong. Um, 1264 00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:32,000 huge kudos to our team, I would say, on 1265 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,839 all the work that it takes to do that. 1266 00:51:33,839 --> 00:51:36,960 Everyone is pretty darn busy and, uh, 1267 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,040 also is taking the time to go on the 1268 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,480 road and get all over the state and 1269 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,839 making sure we're connecting with folks. 1270 00:51:43,839 --> 00:51:45,839 happy to answer any questions on that. 1271 00:51:45,839 --> 00:51:47,920 Um, and then yeah, I'll just say, you 1272 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,319 know, we introed John at the beginning, 1273 00:51:50,319 --> 00:51:52,240 but he's been here for about five weeks 1274 00:51:52,240 --> 00:51:54,079 now. He's done a great job learning 1275 00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:56,800 everything, helping us clean up um our 1276 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,880 website, helping us with our webinars, 1277 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,720 and really helping to expand the 1278 00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:03,040 capacity we have to be more intentional 1279 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,599 within engagement. Um, and we're really 1280 00:52:05,599 --> 00:52:09,520 grateful to have him on the team. 1281 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,960 any engagement with important questions? 1282 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,079 >> I've enjoyed um eating out to some of 1283 00:52:16,079 --> 00:52:20,480 your cogs uh and comms. Um and I know 1284 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,520 that our Palmer will get out to a few as 1285 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,000 well that I think may that were longer 1286 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:30,319 trips. So yeah, it's it's always fun to 1287 00:52:30,319 --> 00:52:34,400 get out and you know see your places and 1288 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,520 hear those special events. 1289 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,319 Great. Thank you for helping us get out. 1290 00:52:40,319 --> 00:52:41,839 >> And yeah, if there's something we can do 1291 00:52:41,839 --> 00:52:43,680 in your area, if you want to, you know, 1292 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:44,880 make sure you're getting out and meeting 1293 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,200 folks, we're happy to do that. Um, final 1294 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,800 piece in engagement is the making sense 1295 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,480 of dollars update. That is our budget 1296 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,800 and finance book. Um, we are in the 1297 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,559 final stretch of getting that book 1298 00:52:56,559 --> 00:52:58,319 completed. We should have that published 1299 00:52:58,319 --> 00:53:00,880 and ready to go by annual. Um, 1300 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,800 >> no, we're good. My head is less flame. 1301 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:09,920 So, for those that are online, we we've just had a little Zoom computer 1302 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,079 glitch. So, we are pivoting and they've 1303 00:53:12,079 --> 00:53:13,599 set up new speakers. Hopefully, you can 1304 00:53:13,599 --> 00:53:16,559 hear us. Okay. If if you're online, can 1305 00:53:16,559 --> 00:53:18,720 you just give us a quick thumbs up or 1306 00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:20,000 something in the chat to let us know 1307 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:28,549 that you're receiving? Okay. 1308 00:53:28,559 --> 00:53:32,309 » Thank you, Bruno. 1309 00:53:32,319 --> 00:53:34,160 » Okay. Now that we've appropriately 1310 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:38,160 adjusted Jared's mood lighting, 1311 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:48,309 best potential presentation 1312 00:53:48,319 --> 00:53:49,280 is 1313 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,960 >> okay. Um, well, I wanted to bring up uh 1314 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,760 just kind of a background before we dive 1315 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,319 into where we're at with uh the Salt 1316 00:53:58,319 --> 00:54:03,040 Lake City uh case. So in the past uh 1317 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:07,040 there have been many members that uh or 1318 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,440 few members that have asked for the lead 1319 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,640 certification in litigation whether that 1320 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:18,559 be uh drafting our own uh amus brief and 1321 00:54:18,559 --> 00:54:21,119 filing that or signing on. Do you 1322 00:54:21,119 --> 00:54:23,200 remember 1323 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,839 in the last year the league board 1324 00:54:25,839 --> 00:54:31,520 decided to sign on to uh case supporting 1325 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:36,630 the MOAP 1326 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,119 you 1327 00:54:39,119 --> 00:54:41,599 okay? 1328 00:54:41,599 --> 00:54:46,640 Um, and so we uh we're now Salt Lake 1329 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,559 City on a on a case called Stanley Hay 1330 00:54:50,559 --> 00:54:53,839 uh the Salt Lake City case uh regarding 1331 00:54:53,839 --> 00:54:56,800 fees has requested the the board 1332 00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,160 consider whether to participate in 1333 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,480 mitigation in 1334 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,960 some ways. 1335 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:06,720 Um 1336 00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:10,960 with that the board has passed 1337 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,760 uh brief policy or litigation 1338 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,200 participation policy that guides uh 1339 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,640 whether that that gives consideration as 1340 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,480 to uh what the board may consider in 1341 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,960 determining whether uh to sign on to an 1342 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:33,440 uh those there's a list of 10 or 12 1343 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,599 different considerations Just for an 1344 00:55:35,599 --> 00:55:38,079 example, some of those considerations, 1345 00:55:38,079 --> 00:55:40,400 the number of municipalities affected by 1346 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,119 the issue being litigated, 1347 00:55:43,119 --> 00:55:47,440 uh the um bandwidth to provide the 1348 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,960 support requested, uh the level impact 1349 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,559 that the policy issue has on 1350 00:55:52,559 --> 00:55:55,760 municipalities generally, uh those types 1351 00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:00,079 of uh considerations. 1352 00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:04,000 So with that, um you may remember in the 1353 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,480 past two board meetings we've brought uh 1354 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:11,920 this to your uh attention and uh and 1355 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,200 direction um and seeking direction. In 1356 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:19,200 the past, uh we did not have a 1357 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,760 uh a 1358 00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,440 brief uh final amas brief from Provo 1359 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:31,119 City uh or the international mental uh 1360 00:56:31,119 --> 00:56:33,520 attorneys association 1361 00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:38,880 um or lawyers association. And um and we 1362 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,079 do not have a final brief that we know 1363 00:56:42,079 --> 00:56:45,920 will or will not be filed. uh that's 1364 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,040 anticipated to be filed by Provo uh 1365 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:53,839 tomorrow. Uh we uh and so we have been 1366 00:56:53,839 --> 00:56:57,599 given by Provos's legal council the 1367 00:56:57,599 --> 00:57:01,359 principles that uh they intend to put 1368 00:57:01,359 --> 00:57:04,480 within their brief. Um and we'll see 1369 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,680 that final brief uh 1370 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,960 possibly later today uh if not tomorrow 1371 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,880 morning early. Um, and so I wanted to 1372 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:19,680 give the uh the the board those key 1373 00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,480 principles uh that are intended to be 1374 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,599 within that provo. 1375 00:57:25,599 --> 00:57:31,119 Um and just as a background when I say 1376 00:57:31,119 --> 00:57:34,000 section 602 that that that is the 1377 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,280 section about expenditure impact fees 1378 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:41,680 and whether uh when a city can use and 1379 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,040 spend those impact fees and on what. So 1380 00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:49,440 in that uh provision section 602 it says 1381 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:54,319 that impact fees may be expended uh 1382 00:57:54,319 --> 00:57:58,400 on the same facility type and must be 1383 00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,359 included within the impact facility 1384 00:58:01,359 --> 00:58:06,240 time. Those are the two uh 1385 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:11,599 that that is what section 602 says. Um 1386 00:58:11,599 --> 00:58:15,359 the so the I guess the real issue the 1387 00:58:15,359 --> 00:58:18,240 issue behind the Salt Lake City case uh 1388 00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,520 is whether a city under the law can use 1389 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:25,200 impact fees on system improvements 1390 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,480 for projects that were only included in 1391 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:32,319 a prior impact fee facility plan and 1392 00:58:32,319 --> 00:58:36,960 using those those uh impact fees that 1393 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,280 were collected under a prior impact fee. 1394 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,720 facility plan on projects that were only 1395 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,359 included on a subsequent impact fee 1396 00:58:45,359 --> 00:58:50,880 facility plan. So using impact feed 1397 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,000 funds for a project 1398 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,720 uh that is in the new impact feed 1399 00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:00,160 facility plan but that was not in the 1400 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,760 old impact fee facility plan. So that is 1401 00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:10,880 the issue. Um the uh the five points that Provos 1402 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,160 Amika's brief uh intends to put into 1403 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:18,799 their brief is section 602's text limits 1404 00:59:18,799 --> 00:59:21,920 expenditures by facility type and 1405 00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,520 operative plan identification 1406 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,400 not by a collection date project list. 1407 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,480 Now collection date project list is the 1408 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,960 argument from the other side saying look 1409 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,280 you can only use it on whatever was in 1410 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,960 the original impact facility plan when 1411 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,599 those funds were collected. 1412 00:59:41,599 --> 00:59:43,760 So that's what that collection date 1413 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,160 project list is a frozen date by which 1414 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,119 those projects you can use impact visa 1415 00:59:49,119 --> 00:59:52,079 would have to go back. Uh the second 1416 00:59:52,079 --> 00:59:54,240 point is that the act's integrated 1417 00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,640 structure confirms that updated plans 1418 00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,960 govern expenditures for the same 1419 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,640 facility type. In other words, if it was 1420 01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,559 in a transportation, 1421 01:00:04,559 --> 01:00:07,040 it's used for transportation. 1422 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,280 uh whether it's in this impact fee 1423 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,319 facility plan so long as it's within the 1424 01:00:12,319 --> 01:00:14,720 same facility type transportation and 1425 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:18,960 transportification park and park um 1426 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,319 sewer sewer water water um that so long 1427 01:00:22,319 --> 01:00:24,720 as it's facility type you should be able 1428 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,119 to still use that even though it may be 1429 01:00:27,119 --> 01:00:31,359 a different project uh that is within 1430 01:00:31,359 --> 01:00:33,839 this new impact. 1431 01:00:33,839 --> 01:00:36,319 The third is real world implications and 1432 01:00:36,319 --> 01:00:38,720 practical consequences strongly favor 1433 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,839 Salt Lake City's interpretation. 1434 01:00:41,839 --> 01:00:45,440 Uh the fourth is Stanley's which is the 1435 01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,400 other side frozen project list rule 1436 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,280 would destabilize municipal finance and 1437 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,000 infrastructure planning statewide. And 1438 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,079 then the fifth is felting city's 1439 01:00:56,079 --> 01:00:58,640 interpretation synthesizes the act's 1440 01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:02,400 purpose and support sound public policy. 1441 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,720 So those are the five key points that 1442 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:09,839 provos uh intends to uh to put into 1443 01:01:09,839 --> 01:01:15,040 their brief. Uh it is anticipated that 1444 01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,880 uh UAP as well as HILA will be signing 1445 01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,079 and maybe other entities may be signed 1446 01:01:22,079 --> 01:01:23,920 on to 1447 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,119 uh Provos Amikas. 1448 01:01:27,119 --> 01:01:30,240 Um, our recommendation to the board at 1449 01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:35,119 this time is that the board uh uh 1450 01:01:35,119 --> 01:01:38,960 approved signing on to Provos Mikaspur 1451 01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:44,000 with the uh caveat that the uh the 1452 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:48,079 executive team uh is given authority to 1453 01:01:48,079 --> 01:01:52,799 once we receive that uh breathe. So long 1454 01:01:52,799 --> 01:01:54,880 as those principles are the same as what 1455 01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,680 we see that we feel comfortable moving 1456 01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,079 forward with that. Um so that would be 1457 01:02:00,079 --> 01:02:02,640 our recommendation that we move forward 1458 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:08,319 with signing on brief um with with uh 1459 01:02:08,319 --> 01:02:11,280 not knowing what provos brief actually 1460 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,240 specifically says. These are the the 1461 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,400 five principles that will be. So that's 1462 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,240 where we're at with the recommendations. 1463 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,960 >> So it's a qualified approval. 1464 01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,599 Um, it's an approval. 1465 01:02:23,599 --> 01:02:27,750 >> It's a trust verified. 1466 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,280 » Um, 1467 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,359 we just we just haven't seen the final 1468 01:02:31,359 --> 01:02:33,040 brief yet. And that's really what it 1469 01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,280 comes down to. We anticipate 1470 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:41,190 >> but we actually 1471 01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:48,160 and I I do not see any changes being 1472 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:52,880 substantial or different than what uh 1473 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:56,400 legal counsel and provo has has told us. 1474 01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,319 And so I anticipate it will be those 1475 01:02:58,319 --> 01:03:01,200 five points. Um and I think you can rely 1476 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,160 on that that being the case. so that 1477 01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,960 your decision is based off what we 1478 01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,559 believe provo uh will have in there. I 1479 01:03:10,559 --> 01:03:14,960 can say as as an attorney you you you 1480 01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,240 use every bit of time that you have in 1481 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,400 drafting a brief even though it it can 1482 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,720 always be better. And so I think that 1483 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,520 that's where Provo is is at the legal 1484 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,000 council is they're using every bit of 1485 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:33,119 time to get to to get that 1486 01:03:33,119 --> 01:03:35,920 in line. And um there's been a lot of 1487 01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:37,599 things come up in Provo City's 1488 01:03:37,599 --> 01:03:40,640 attorney's office that have uh been 1489 01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,680 difficult time wise as well. Some 1490 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:47,520 internal things that health issues. 1491 01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:51,280 So uh so I think that's why we haven't 1492 01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:55,750 seen the break. 1493 01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,680 Um 1494 01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,400 before I think before I think it's part 1495 01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,839 of that discussion. So, so I'm going to 1496 01:04:03,839 --> 01:04:05,920 put that on the table and then we'll 1497 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,640 come back to circle back to if it's okay 1498 01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:12,960 with you uh Mayor Bradshot that we we 1499 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:14,720 table that and come back to it because I 1500 01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,599 think it's just so you know um one of 1501 01:04:17,599 --> 01:04:20,000 the things that 1502 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,880 is important to consider is that Salt 1503 01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:26,640 Lake City's case with impact fees is 1504 01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:30,559 just one item in what you will see with 1505 01:04:30,559 --> 01:04:32,160 the legislature. 1506 01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:36,079 uh both during the interim as well as uh 1507 01:04:36,079 --> 01:04:38,960 during the session as Justin mentioned 1508 01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:45,280 uh there's the audit that will be uh the conclusions we would have to meet 1509 01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:49,359 with them uh and there there uh may be 1510 01:04:49,359 --> 01:04:53,599 questions that come down from that uh in 1511 01:04:53,599 --> 01:04:56,160 some certain fashion and that we'll need 1512 01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,880 to consider and along with that there 1513 01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,000 their board principles and may have 1514 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,720 noticed and we that that have been given 1515 01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:08,880 to the LPC housing advisory group that 1516 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,440 have looked at that and it it's those 1517 01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,200 are not in your packet that the agenda 1518 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:18,319 is and if you don't have those happy to distribute those but those are still 1519 01:05:18,319 --> 01:05:21,119 in a work in progress. uh we've already 1520 01:05:21,119 --> 01:05:22,720 received feedback from some of our 1521 01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:24,559 members saying hey we need to change 1522 01:05:24,559 --> 01:05:27,680 this tweak this and so it's a it's an 1523 01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:29,680 evolving process and a further 1524 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,480 discussion down the road but that I just 1525 01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,880 wanted to give you that feedback but you 1526 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:38,160 know in the past typically when we do an 1527 01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,319 brief in the past it's here's our 1528 01:05:40,319 --> 01:05:42,559 immediate brief we signed on to whatever 1529 01:05:42,559 --> 01:05:44,319 happens 1530 01:05:44,319 --> 01:05:47,760 there you go uh this one I think the 1531 01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:51,440 issues definitely will come back up uh 1532 01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:55,440 after the audit after as a discussion 1533 01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,839 with board on the key principles that 1534 01:05:57,839 --> 01:06:00,000 our members feel comfortable signing on 1535 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:05,599 to. Um it's a full discussion. So um can 1536 01:06:05,599 --> 01:06:07,680 I just add one last piece? Sure. Again, 1537 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,520 we're recommending that we sign on. Just 1538 01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:10,960 want to add a little color what Jared 1539 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:17,510 just mentioned about the audit Justin 1540 01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,160 state law. We cannot share The details 1541 01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,880 of what they shared with us 1542 01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:24,559 beyond what they authorized us. What 1543 01:06:24,559 --> 01:06:26,880 they authorized us to share with the 1544 01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:28,640 board today is they are looking at 1545 01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,920 friction points around impact fee law 1546 01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,240 and policy and implementation and those 1547 01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:35,920 include 1548 01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,799 definition around nexus and rough rough 1549 01:06:38,799 --> 01:06:40,400 proportionality the policy 1550 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,319 considerations on service areas which is 1551 01:06:42,319 --> 01:06:45,680 part of this amicus before you impact on 1552 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:47,440 affordability and the like. They're 1553 01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,119 looking at all those pieces. We will 1554 01:06:49,119 --> 01:06:51,599 know by midepptember whether the audit 1555 01:06:51,599 --> 01:06:54,160 will be released in October or November. 1556 01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,000 And then we as league staff will have 1557 01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,240 the opportunity to hit on that before it 1558 01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,319 goes public similar to what we've done 1559 01:07:00,319 --> 01:07:02,799 to audits in the past. And then once 1560 01:07:02,799 --> 01:07:04,559 that audit goes live, we assure you 1561 01:07:04,559 --> 01:07:09,039 there will be some, as Jared said, some difficult questions for us to 1562 01:07:09,039 --> 01:07:10,240 consider and there will be a lot of 1563 01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:11,920 attention from the legislature comes 1564 01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:13,920 next. 1565 01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,079 >> Okay. So [clears throat] right now we 1566 01:07:16,079 --> 01:07:18,160 have a recommendation 1567 01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:23,359 um to sign on with a caveat that the 1568 01:07:23,359 --> 01:07:25,039 final decision based on the draft will 1569 01:07:25,039 --> 01:07:28,079 be uh left to the executive committee 1570 01:07:28,079 --> 01:07:31,520 but we're holding on that till we get to 1571 01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:33,839 the rest of the discussion. Well that 1572 01:07:33,839 --> 01:07:36,240 was the rest of the presentation give 1573 01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:37,920 you that context after we made that 1574 01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,000 recommendation and this process wise has 1575 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,799 to be filed by tomorrow. Jared is tired 1576 01:07:42,799 --> 01:07:44,720 of me asking him for updates from all 1577 01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:46,640 the different pieces because some were 1578 01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:47,839 going to participate then they backed 1579 01:07:47,839 --> 01:07:48,880 out and they're going to participate and 1580 01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,119 they back down a lot of moving pieces 1581 01:07:51,119 --> 01:07:53,280 over the last few weeks. But once we get 1582 01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,680 it today, lead staff's going to review 1583 01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:57,599 it and then we'll notify the officers of 1584 01:07:57,599 --> 01:07:59,119 like, yes, this is consistent with what 1585 01:07:59,119 --> 01:08:00,720 we presented at board meeting where no 1586 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:04,720 one's negative want and then 1587 01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,280 >> it's provoke. Uh I would make a 1588 01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:08,880 suggestion that we send them caffeine, 1589 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:10,160 but knowing that there's some 1590 01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:11,680 restrictions there, maybe we can send 1591 01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:19,030 them some 1592 01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:21,120 draft in a timely fashion. This is I 1593 01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:24,719 think a very uh key and important issue. 1594 01:08:24,719 --> 01:08:27,679 Um 1595 01:08:27,679 --> 01:08:30,080 I I I'm particularly worried about 1596 01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:33,120 walking us into a time. Our cities 1597 01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:33,440 aren't 1598 01:08:33,440 --> 01:08:35,040 >> snowblowed. 1599 01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,120 Um you know, we're dynamic. We're 1600 01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:41,120 moving. Um and 1601 01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:42,960 so 1602 01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:46,239 that this lawsuit would restrict us to a 1603 01:08:46,239 --> 01:08:50,080 particular time when the impact fees 1604 01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:51,920 were there but you know we've since 1605 01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:53,600 evolved or we've since had issues or we 1606 01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:57,839 had to meet new standards I think 1607 01:08:57,839 --> 01:09:02,550 >> and you're welcome to use that snow. 1608 01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,960 » Okay. Anyone have any additional 1609 01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:06,159 commentary? 1610 01:09:06,159 --> 01:09:07,199 >> Thank you very much for the 1611 01:09:07,199 --> 01:09:08,799 presentation. 1612 01:09:08,799 --> 01:09:10,239 deliberation on this whole process 1613 01:09:10,239 --> 01:09:11,839 because this has been a big issue 1614 01:09:11,839 --> 01:09:13,600 because this is not one city and one 1615 01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,000 program. since it's statewide and impact 1616 01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,719 all of us as you all see that you know 1617 01:09:18,719 --> 01:09:23,440 if you abide by do not believe uh 1618 01:09:23,440 --> 01:09:26,880 IFFP going forward why would you ever 1619 01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:30,560 change your now you're always 1620 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:33,279 so this is statewide uh and impacts all 1621 01:09:33,279 --> 01:09:35,839 of us and when the IMLA [clears throat] 1622 01:09:35,839 --> 01:09:38,319 takes a stand on something that's big 1623 01:09:38,319 --> 01:09:40,480 national concern then they also realize 1624 01:09:40,480 --> 01:09:45,520 that it's not just one small uh side by. 1625 01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:47,440 So I appreciate your conversation and I 1626 01:09:47,440 --> 01:09:49,359 appreciate five principles that you laid 1627 01:09:49,359 --> 01:09:51,440 out there from Provo. That was nice and 1628 01:09:51,440 --> 01:09:53,600 clear which is all all of our concerns 1629 01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,120 that we have. I think majority of the 1630 01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:56,480 other students have probably the same 1631 01:09:56,480 --> 01:09:57,600 concern. 1632 01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:01,199 >> So thank you very much and uh I looking 1633 01:10:01,199 --> 01:10:03,199 forward to probably not changing theirs 1634 01:10:03,199 --> 01:10:05,440 by any stretch of the imagination. So 1635 01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:09,510 and that's 1636 01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,719 » any other feedback couple questions. Um, 1637 01:10:12,719 --> 01:10:14,560 do you want a motion to accept this 1638 01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:15,840 recommendation? 1639 01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:16,880 >> Okay. 1640 01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:20,560 >> Move that we accept this uh 1641 01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:25,520 motion to uh sign on to propos. 1642 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,199 >> So the 1643 01:10:27,199 --> 01:10:28,159 committee will 1644 01:10:28,159 --> 01:10:28,880 >> Yes. 1645 01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:29,920 >> through once we've seen it. 1646 01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:31,199 >> Yeah. 1647 01:10:31,199 --> 01:10:32,880 >> So motion from council number two. We 1648 01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,040 have a second from Mayor Shepard. Any 1649 01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:38,239 further discussion? 1650 01:10:38,239 --> 01:10:42,960 All in favor, please say I. I. I. I. Any 1651 01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:47,270 opposed? 1652 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,360 Okay, looks like do you have your 1653 01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:55,430 direction and on action there? 1654 01:10:55,440 --> 01:10:58,400 » We'll move on to the spark. 1655 01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,239 >> Yeah, 1656 01:11:00,239 --> 01:11:04,159 those are each. So, res and carb on the 1657 01:11:04,159 --> 01:11:06,080 road and spark 1658 01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:07,840 like 1659 01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:15,990 that. 1660 01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,669 Justin 1661 01:11:19,679 --> 01:11:22,400 Parker grant some of you now mentioned a 1662 01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,960 couple times but we applied last uh last 1663 01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,280 winter we applied for and received a 1664 01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:28,880 grant from the National League of Cities 1665 01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:30,960 to study the cost of complying with new 1666 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,760 requirements. Um as you all know every 1667 01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:35,440 time there's new law proposed there's a 1668 01:11:35,440 --> 01:11:38,719 fiscal note sometimes there the direct 1669 01:11:38,719 --> 01:11:42,880 cost. with cities or put taxations 1670 01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:44,960 direct cost on cities. Those are easy to 1671 01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:46,560 quantify. They're probably harder to 1672 01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:50,159 quantify to the many bills that pass 1673 01:11:50,159 --> 01:11:51,679 requirement. Sometimes it's a small 1674 01:11:51,679 --> 01:11:53,040 requirement, sometimes it's major 1675 01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:55,040 general plan requirement, some 1676 01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:56,880 additional staff time, additional 1677 01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:00,000 consulting time uh for cities by state 1678 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:03,120 law. Now, we've heard a lot of we've 1679 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:04,480 heard a lot of other entities like 1680 01:12:04,480 --> 01:12:06,159 certain districts, counties bring 1681 01:12:06,159 --> 01:12:08,560 concerns legislature about this. uh 1682 01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,679 those have largers. 1683 01:12:11,679 --> 01:12:14,159 So we're trying to generate approach and 1684 01:12:14,159 --> 01:12:16,960 we're trying to quantify 1685 01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:19,199 that. 1686 01:12:19,199 --> 01:12:22,320 So we're working with Foundation. 1687 01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,000 They're going to be a third party 1688 01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,960 control group manage the survey, run the 1689 01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:28,560 survey, perform the analysis. So it's 1690 01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:32,080 all independent. Um hopefully 1691 01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:35,280 provides more trust to the process. But 1692 01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,760 um we'll basically be serving term 1693 01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:41,280 depends on uh how much is how much staff 1694 01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:44,560 time how much time 1695 01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,360 six different requirements it's a mix of 1696 01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:50,159 federal and state requirements that we 1697 01:12:50,159 --> 01:12:52,880 supported some things we proposed but we 1698 01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:54,400 want it to be kind of a combination of 1699 01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:57,360 different different elements I won't go 1700 01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,280 too much the details methodology but 1701 01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,199 we'll be working with city managers 1702 01:13:01,199 --> 01:13:05,360 first other other folks separately uh to 1703 01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,360 try to get as many respondents as 1704 01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:10,400 possible. So, we'll we'll let you know 1705 01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:13,199 once the survey is ready hopefully next 1706 01:13:13,199 --> 01:13:15,760 uh this week or next week and then we'll 1707 01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:17,280 keep you posted on results as they come 1708 01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:18,480 in. But, we think it's a cool 1709 01:13:18,480 --> 01:13:20,159 opportunity to get that the 1710 01:13:20,159 --> 01:13:23,199 nationalities uh is helping fund or 1711 01:13:23,199 --> 01:13:25,120 we'll be able to get a pretty good 1712 01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,840 understand what that kind of impact is 1713 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,990 that I 1714 01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,560 members. So, putting a number that will 1715 01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:36,320 help discussion 1716 01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:38,719 hopefully help us get to a better point 1717 01:13:38,719 --> 01:13:40,960 with communication with the legislature 1718 01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,920 about even bills that we might support 1719 01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:45,920 or we're neutral on. There's still some 1720 01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:47,840 cost there. How can we work with them to 1721 01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,000 either define those requirements a 1722 01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:53,120 little bit more or spread 1723 01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:59,189 so it's not just updating every year 1724 01:13:59,199 --> 01:14:04,070 there? Are there any questions? 1725 01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,920 Looks like we don't have any questions. 1726 01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:14,470 Feels like great feedback. 1727 01:14:14,480 --> 01:14:17,360 Um Okay. All right. Uh traveling LBC. So 1728 01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,440 last time we met, uh we pitched the idea 1729 01:14:19,440 --> 01:14:21,040 of traveling LBC around the state and 1730 01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:22,800 you all said we should do that. So we're 1731 01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,120 going to um here's the here's the 1732 01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:26,560 schedule. Here's where we're going. Next 1733 01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:27,679 week we're going to be in Saratoga 1734 01:14:27,679 --> 01:14:30,159 Springs. And before I think well I'll do 1735 01:14:30,159 --> 01:14:31,280 the schedule when I come back. Yeah. 1736 01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:33,199 Next week in Saratoga Springs in 1737 01:14:33,199 --> 01:14:35,120 September, we will be back at the trust. 1738 01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:36,800 Uh we will be doubling up meeting with 1739 01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:40,159 that one on the 21st of September. In 1740 01:14:40,159 --> 01:14:42,880 October, uh we're going to head down to 1741 01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,120 Manti. So, thank you, Mary, uh Mayor 1742 01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:47,120 Winch for having us down there. Excited 1743 01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:49,360 to come down here neck woods. Um and 1744 01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,440 then in November, we're going all the 1745 01:14:51,440 --> 01:14:53,520 way down to Santa Clara to council 1746 01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:55,280 member Hinton's neck of the wood. 1747 01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:56,719 >> Best part of the state in November. 1748 01:14:56,719 --> 01:14:58,320 >> Yeah, I know it was rough in November. 1749 01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:01,040 That was a tough sale. Um but but that's 1750 01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:02,080 where Heming soil works. We're excited 1751 01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:04,080 to see how this works. I do want to 1752 01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,159 thank some of you reached out offered up 1753 01:15:06,159 --> 01:15:08,640 your cities as well. Um we had more 1754 01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:10,800 offers than we had we had space for. Um 1755 01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:13,440 and so depending how this goes this 1756 01:15:13,440 --> 01:15:15,760 fall. Um we we may be back for this next 1757 01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:18,239 year. Um and I I'm assuming we will be 1758 01:15:18,239 --> 01:15:19,600 because I think it's going to go well. 1759 01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:21,040 But our hope out of this is really to 1760 01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:22,800 get uh some different faces in the room 1761 01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:24,800 in some places and maybe different faces 1762 01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:27,040 on Zoom. Um but excited about that. 1763 01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:29,040 That's where we're going. Um any any 1764 01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:32,320 comments or questions? 1765 01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:34,640 >> What's that? 1766 01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:36,400 >> That's 1767 01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:44,390 the league will not be reimbured. 1768 01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:45,760 » Okay. 1769 01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:47,840 Well, so yeah, I'm excited for 1770 01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:49,199 that. That should be that should be a 1771 01:15:49,199 --> 01:15:51,120 good opportunity to get out there. Like 1772 01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,840 I said, change change up. Um, also as 1773 01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:55,600 we're going out in these areas, um, you 1774 01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:56,880 know, we may look at setting up some 1775 01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:58,480 other some other meetings in those 1776 01:15:58,480 --> 01:16:01,280 communities. Um, you know, we want to do 1777 01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:02,960 Q&A, we just want to meet with people. 1778 01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:04,400 We want to invite legislators from those 1779 01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:05,840 areas. We think there's a lot of 1780 01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:07,520 benefits as well. 1781 01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:09,360 will be will be boring to start 1782 01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:12,000 traveling out there for 1783 01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,960 >> well that will be certainly exciting for 1784 01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:19,280 um us to be in different places and I 1785 01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:21,120 know that will be very exciting council 1786 01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:23,440 to be able to 1787 01:16:23,440 --> 01:16:27,360 host as presidents in her city so 1788 01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,550 president 1789 01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:35,189 and I did 1790 01:16:35,199 --> 01:16:36,880 just coming out of co people were 1791 01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:38,480 starting to meet in person again and 1792 01:16:38,480 --> 01:16:42,080 starting to you know gather and but not 1793 01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:44,239 come clear here if they weren't from 1794 01:16:44,239 --> 01:16:47,040 here you know whatever we we did this 1795 01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:50,400 and and we went and we visited each 1796 01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,880 region we tried to meet with folks from 1797 01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:54,960 every city possible around the state 1798 01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:59,679 where they're at and was awesome I think 1799 01:16:59,679 --> 01:17:02,960 it was really awesome very effective 1800 01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:06,320 with the engagement especially so weird 1801 01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:09,600 going um I mean we were out of co enough 1802 01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:11,360 that people were meeting again things 1803 01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:14,800 that went that long but also really 1804 01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,360 helpful and so I could not and I think 1805 01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:19,199 we will see the goal the objective 1806 01:17:19,199 --> 01:17:21,199 behind this I think will be accomplished 1807 01:17:21,199 --> 01:17:22,719 I think it 1808 01:17:22,719 --> 01:17:24,480 >> I think it's a great idea 1809 01:17:24,480 --> 01:17:25,920 >> yeah I there was lots of positive 1810 01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,640 feedback from when you when you did that 1811 01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,199 um road trip in your year as president 1812 01:17:31,199 --> 01:17:34,480 so I think it's 1813 01:17:34,480 --> 01:17:38,159 >> and next up multi 1814 01:17:38,159 --> 01:17:40,080 >> for the sake of time the mitigation task 1815 01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:43,440 force is meeting um from this group we 1816 01:17:43,440 --> 01:17:47,199 have mayors adult Bradshaw and Bruno um 1817 01:17:47,199 --> 01:17:52,239 we also have mayors Ben Hall Manzion 1818 01:17:52,239 --> 01:17:55,990 um 1819 01:17:56,000 --> 01:18:01,270 and that's it right 1820 01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,320 thank you mayor wood meeting um to again 1821 01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:06,719 think through try to make the mitigation 1822 01:18:06,719 --> 01:18:08,800 fund work in a better long-term way so 1823 01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:10,320 that we don't have to talk about it 1824 01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:13,199 every single year. Um, and make make it 1825 01:18:13,199 --> 01:18:15,040 better for all contributing cities as 1826 01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,280 well as recipient cities. So, um, I 1827 01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,440 would say we're going to talk about it. 1828 01:18:19,440 --> 01:18:21,760 If you have questions about it, grab one 1829 01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,960 of the happy to update you, but I think 1830 01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:29,830 we can leave it there for now. 1831 01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:34,550 » Right. 1832 01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:37,840 person in Detroit. [laughter] 1833 01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:43,830 >> Speaking of solving issues, fireworks 1834 01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,320 that issues, 1835 01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:48,000 >> I'm going to borrow this memo from what 1836 01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:52,070 I did during my summer break. 1837 01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,239 In your packet, you have a memo that 1838 01:18:54,239 --> 01:18:57,199 summarizes the survey results from the 1839 01:18:57,199 --> 01:19:00,159 two surveys we sent after in 1840 01:19:00,159 --> 01:19:01,920 just 1841 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:03,280 do a quick overview and then we're going 1842 01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:04,719 to ask this board a question about our 1843 01:19:04,719 --> 01:19:07,679 next steps. Quick overview is this. 1844 01:19:07,679 --> 01:19:11,840 When we 1845 01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:14,159 went into those series of really intense 1846 01:19:14,159 --> 01:19:15,920 discussions leading up to the 4th of 1847 01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:19,600 July, we were anxious about what the 1848 01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:21,280 political response would be at the 1849 01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:22,960 capital. We were trying to get the legal 1850 01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:24,719 pieces right. We're trying to help you 1851 01:19:24,719 --> 01:19:26,640 communicate with your residents and we 1852 01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:28,960 were trying to keep public safety and 1853 01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,600 options for cities as the north star. 1854 01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:34,080 And I think as I look back on the month, 1855 01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:35,440 I think we actually were able to achieve 1856 01:19:35,440 --> 01:19:37,280 all of those pieces. 1857 01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:42,400 Uh so my my hats off and and major 1858 01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:44,159 kudos to all of you for how you 1859 01:19:44,159 --> 01:19:45,520 communicated with your residents during 1860 01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,239 a really tricky time. 1861 01:19:48,239 --> 01:19:51,199 The data is really insightful and part 1862 01:19:51,199 --> 01:19:52,400 of the question we're going to ask you 1863 01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:53,760 here in a moment is like what else do 1864 01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:55,199 you want to learn from the members as we 1865 01:19:55,199 --> 01:19:57,760 get ahead as we look ahead to 2027. So a 1866 01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,080 couple just quick highlights for you. 1867 01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,159 Number one, 1868 01:20:02,159 --> 01:20:05,920 Jamie Barnes is fantastic. She was a 1869 01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:07,520 state forester and notice I say was 1870 01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:09,840 because she's now been promoted. She'll 1871 01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:11,840 now be running the department of natural 1872 01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:15,040 resources but in two weeks. 1873 01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:16,640 >> Okay. 1874 01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:20,080 That's right. Join. She was incredibly 1875 01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:21,360 collaborative. I know many of you were 1876 01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:23,840 on the the web 1877 01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,880 short notice that I think it's I think 1878 01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:28,960 it's really important to acknowledge 1879 01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,120 that with everything she had going on 1880 01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:33,840 that she and her team set aside the time 1881 01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:36,159 to meet directly with us and between 1882 01:20:36,159 --> 01:20:39,199 those two webinars we had over 750 1883 01:20:39,199 --> 01:20:42,000 people signed on to the webinar let 1884 01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:43,199 alone however many people were in the 1885 01:20:43,199 --> 01:20:45,280 room watching the screen. So that's 1886 01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:47,120 really incredible engagement and 1887 01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:49,120 collaboration from her and from and from 1888 01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:52,800 her team. Second thing uh interesting 1889 01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:54,320 response from the membership when we 1890 01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:56,320 sent a survey after independence day we 1891 01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:58,480 had 115 responses. When we sent it after 1892 01:20:58,480 --> 01:21:01,360 pioneer day we had 31 responses. So it's 1893 01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:05,199 hard to rely on a survey of 31 responses 1894 01:21:05,199 --> 01:21:07,120 because in that survey we asked for 1895 01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:09,040 feedback of what should our next steps 1896 01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:10,960 be and what level of priority should 1897 01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:14,159 this be in in 2027. And we as staff are 1898 01:21:14,159 --> 01:21:16,719 anxious to base a recommendation today 1899 01:21:16,719 --> 01:21:19,199 on a survey result from 31, especially 1900 01:21:19,199 --> 01:21:21,199 compared to 115 just a couple weeks 1901 01:21:21,199 --> 01:21:24,960 earlier. Uh number three key takeaway 1902 01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,360 when the governor approached 1903 01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,199 Independence Day with a ban and then you 1904 01:21:29,199 --> 01:21:33,760 could opt out. We had 213 of the 257 1905 01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:36,000 cities and towns that decided to stay 1906 01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:39,040 with the ban. So 83% of our 1907 01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:43,199 municipalities stuck with the ban. 1908 01:21:43,199 --> 01:21:45,520 for pioneer day when we changed the 1909 01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:48,159 legal framework to there was no 1910 01:21:48,159 --> 01:21:51,199 statewide ban but the forester would use 1911 01:21:51,199 --> 01:21:54,719 her authority upon request we only had a 1912 01:21:54,719 --> 01:21:57,360 third of the cities who requested her 1913 01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:00,000 authority to ban citywide then the memo 1914 01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:01,679 goes into some of the additional nuance 1915 01:22:01,679 --> 01:22:03,520 but I think that's important for us to 1916 01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:05,199 keep in mind and there are variety of 1917 01:22:05,199 --> 01:22:06,639 reasons for that that the survey 1918 01:22:06,639 --> 01:22:08,239 demonstrated some communities said well 1919 01:22:08,239 --> 01:22:10,320 we feel like because the monsunal 1920 01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:11,679 weather certainly in central Central 1921 01:22:11,679 --> 01:22:13,760 Utah, the floods were terrible on 1922 01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:16,159 central Utah in southern Utah. And so 1923 01:22:16,159 --> 01:22:18,000 it's hard to talk about a fireworks band 1924 01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:19,280 when you have water running through the 1925 01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:23,120 streets. So different different monsunal 1926 01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:25,280 activity, but that did not affect 1927 01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:27,679 northern Utah was still incredibly dry 1928 01:22:27,679 --> 01:22:30,320 up north and and then communication with 1929 01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:31,760 the public and push back from the public 1930 01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:33,280 about the the first band. So there's 1931 01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:34,800 lots of reasons why those numbers are 1932 01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:35,600 different, but I think it's important 1933 01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:37,199 for you all to know how different they 1934 01:22:37,199 --> 01:22:40,080 were independent day versus my year. 1935 01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:41,027 Okay. 1936 01:22:41,027 --> 01:22:41,040 >> [clears throat] 1937 01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:42,639 >> So with that, there's a lot more to tell 1938 01:22:42,639 --> 01:22:44,320 in the memo, but Carson's going to pull 1939 01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:46,480 up a side question here. And the 1940 01:22:46,480 --> 01:22:48,560 question we're asking you as a board 1941 01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,040 because we have LPC next week is what 1942 01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:53,280 else do you want to know from LPC that 1943 01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,360 will help us prioritize where we go 1944 01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:57,280 session? We included a link to the 1945 01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:59,760 fireworks resolution from a decade ago. 1946 01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:02,560 And just quick institutional background 1947 01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:03,920 for those who weren't in office a decade 1948 01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:05,840 ago, 1949 01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,239 we made some pretty significant changes 1950 01:23:08,239 --> 01:23:10,159 to farmworks law policy a decade ago and 1951 01:23:10,159 --> 01:23:12,480 then made some additional changes in 1952 01:23:12,480 --> 01:23:14,159 2021 1953 01:23:14,159 --> 01:23:15,600 uh which was the last time we had the 1954 01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:17,120 severe drought conditions that we have 1955 01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:19,280 now. Represent Dunigan was involved in 1956 01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:22,080 both of those ran the bills both times 1957 01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:24,400 and from a staff perspective we feel 1958 01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:26,080 like that resolution still generally 1959 01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:29,440 spells out our core principles here. I 1960 01:23:29,440 --> 01:23:31,760 think the what we want to know from you 1961 01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:32,719 and what we want to know from the 1962 01:23:32,719 --> 01:23:35,040 membership is just what should the 1963 01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:37,520 priorities be if any going into 2027 1964 01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:41,360 session beyond what we already have that resolution ideal world all these 1965 01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,199 decisions are made at city hall the 1966 01:23:43,199 --> 01:23:45,199 legal framework in Utah's not quite that 1967 01:23:45,199 --> 01:23:48,480 is it worth the heavy political lift to 1968 01:23:48,480 --> 01:23:50,320 try to reverse that entirely or is it 1969 01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,960 better to focus on some of the lessons 1970 01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:54,320 we've learned this summer like for 1971 01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,000 example state for a different 1972 01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:57,760 environmental standard that she uses 1973 01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:00,080 than your firec use. So two different 1974 01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:01,280 sections of the code, the two different 1975 01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,360 environmental standards. I didn't 1976 01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,040 realize that until the deep dive over 1977 01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,040 the last few weeks that they your fire 1978 01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:08,960 chief and the state forester are using 1979 01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,520 different that seems like something we 1980 01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:13,840 should look at, right? So slide 1981 01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:16,080 questions open, but uh any thoughts that 1982 01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:17,679 people want to bring up while we're all 1983 01:24:17,679 --> 01:24:19,920 together? 1984 01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:22,560 >> I think it would be fascinating to know 1985 01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:24,239 how many fires have actually started 1986 01:24:24,239 --> 01:24:26,000 from fireworks. 1987 01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:30,560 Um and then as you know as again we were 1988 01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:32,320 probably one of the most conservative on 1989 01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:34,320 fireworks in New York City starting you 1990 01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:37,440 know in May. Um but we talked about this 1991 01:24:37,440 --> 01:24:39,280 on the call was fire doesn't know 1992 01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:41,920 boundaries. So if some so we we were 1993 01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:43,600 thinking if he didn't do it and it came 1994 01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:45,520 over the mountain and so this one is 1995 01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:48,080 kind of a hard one for me because I it's 1996 01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:50,159 not municipal boundaries. It's literally 1997 01:24:50,159 --> 01:24:53,199 your entire firewall but all the all the 1998 01:24:53,199 --> 01:24:55,840 surrounding of your cities. Um, so if 1999 01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:57,199 one city doesn't do it and the other 2000 01:24:57,199 --> 01:24:59,520 city does, then I don't know. This one's 2001 01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:00,880 hard. 2002 01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:01,360 >> Um, 2003 01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:03,360 >> I agree. There's some really interesting 2004 01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:04,000 regional. 2005 01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:05,760 >> Also, someone tell me why fireworks are 2006 01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:08,320 patriotic. 2007 01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:10,480 >> Like it's so it's like so ingrained in 2008 01:25:10,480 --> 01:25:12,000 people and I don't know. There's a 2009 01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:13,760 letter that John Adams wrote to Abigail 2010 01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:15,360 Adams that talks about how the 4th of 2011 01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:17,199 July should be celebrated going forward 2012 01:25:17,199 --> 01:25:19,199 and he specifically mentions fireworks. 2013 01:25:19,199 --> 01:25:22,480 Okay. I actually sent it to my chief and 2014 01:25:22,480 --> 01:25:25,840 other chief were like why why 2015 01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:28,639 >> never know and I'm like why 2016 01:25:28,639 --> 01:25:36,470 don't make me anymore 2017 01:25:36,480 --> 01:25:43,350 » maybe bring back 2018 01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:45,040 I just have never understood the 2019 01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:47,440 correlation between the two it's it's 2020 01:25:47,440 --> 01:25:49,440 one that I I have often seen sited is 2021 01:25:49,440 --> 01:25:52,000 about like here here one of our key 2022 01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:53,520 founding fathers told us how to 2023 01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:55,679 celebrate it. How can you possibly screw 2024 01:25:55,679 --> 01:25:58,080 up his checklist? 2025 01:25:58,080 --> 01:25:59,920 So 2026 01:25:59,920 --> 01:26:03,040 the winter 2027 01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:06,159 fireworks all winter. Um, one of the 2028 01:26:06,159 --> 01:26:07,920 things I think that would be interesting 2029 01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:10,159 for us to talk about at LBC is there's 2030 01:26:10,159 --> 01:26:12,320 definitely 2031 01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:16,719 some in the uh the retail community that 2032 01:26:16,719 --> 01:26:18,960 um I think we're we're willing to be 2033 01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,360 very collaborative players with the hope 2034 01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:25,440 that um we might support a oneoff late 2035 01:26:25,440 --> 01:26:26,960 fall 2036 01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:30,159 makeup celebration when when conditions 2037 01:26:30,159 --> 01:26:33,040 might be better. So I would be curious 2038 01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:38,239 for us to get a gauge on on 2039 01:26:38,239 --> 01:26:41,440 >> I have heard about air quality 2040 01:26:41,440 --> 01:26:44,239 primary concern if we do that on Monday. 2041 01:26:44,239 --> 01:26:47,920 Not like we don't do it already. 2042 01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:50,000 >> But I agree. I think 2043 01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:55,590 >> it would be helpful to know where 2044 01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:57,920 » I would say that it could actually this 2045 01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:00,880 goes back to the chiefs and 2046 01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:02,080 that could actually be a time when 2047 01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:06,080 you're even drier 2048 01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:08,639 if you don't get that paint. So now 2049 01:27:08,639 --> 01:27:12,200 you're putting your cars down. You have 2050 01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:13,840 [clears throat] bad time. So I'm not 2051 01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:17,440 sure if our fire season has a time frame 2052 01:27:17,440 --> 01:27:19,360 anymore. It used to be like summer 2053 01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:21,600 months. Now it's almost year round. I 2054 01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:23,280 think that could be a dangerous thing to 2055 01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:26,159 say, oh we're going to have a fire 2056 01:27:26,159 --> 01:27:28,000 fireworks in the fall when we haven't 2057 01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:31,440 had rain for two months since that time. 2058 01:27:31,440 --> 01:27:34,400 So, and I this this goes back when 2059 01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:37,760 obvious we made the decisions on the 2nd 2060 01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:42,480 of July and on the 22nd of July and is 2061 01:27:42,480 --> 01:27:44,800 there a way to make that decision so 2062 01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:47,360 that neighbors and cities are not so 2063 01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:50,320 confused maybe extended so that's too 2064 01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:52,880 weakened but 2065 01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:55,199 >> do conditions change on short notice? 2066 01:27:55,199 --> 01:27:56,239 >> They [clears throat] do change on short 2067 01:27:56,239 --> 01:27:58,000 notice. Yes, life changes on short 2068 01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:02,560 notice but uh in this case I think it's 2069 01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:05,920 we we spun around quite fast and quick 2070 01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:08,159 and then and their cities are also and 2071 01:28:08,159 --> 01:28:09,760 you also have to deal with teenagers 2072 01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:12,560 they don't so I think of making a 2073 01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:14,239 decision a little bit earlier and maybe 2074 01:28:14,239 --> 01:28:17,040 extend it that was my only take so I 2075 01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:19,600 think as a person who was involved in 2076 01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:22,880 the daily conversations and and then 2077 01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:26,400 officers I want to thank them prior to 2078 01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:28,000 the webinars and the emails you were all 2079 01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:29,520 getting as league members and league 2080 01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:31,120 members in general. We were in daily 2081 01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:33,360 communication as I was updating them on 2082 01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:34,719 the governor and forester were 2083 01:28:34,719 --> 01:28:37,040 considering we sent them a memo in 2084 01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:39,040 between the holidays laying out here are 2085 01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:42,320 our recommendations as we get to pioneer 2086 01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:45,440 and then what kept coming back from the 2087 01:28:45,440 --> 01:28:47,199 governor's office and I and you can 2088 01:28:47,199 --> 01:28:48,880 judge good, better and different. I 2089 01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:50,400 think this was a fair consideration on 2090 01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:53,440 their part was they said we see these 2091 01:28:53,440 --> 01:28:56,000 weather patterns and we want to be fair 2092 01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:58,080 to what we said leading forth that we 2093 01:28:58,080 --> 01:28:59,840 are going to make a decision based on 2094 01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:02,239 the environmental conditions and so they 2095 01:29:02,239 --> 01:29:03,760 waited until the last possible minute to 2096 01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:05,040 get the most accurate environmental 2097 01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:07,440 conditions. The drawback of course was 2098 01:29:07,440 --> 01:29:08,639 communication and the execution 2099 01:29:08,639 --> 01:29:09,920 everything else but that was that was 2100 01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:11,600 the trade-off. Now again the legal 2101 01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:12,880 framework we're operating under right 2102 01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:15,280 now is that that decision is made by the 2103 01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:18,000 governor. He gave power to the forester 2104 01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:20,880 and then we used her authority over 2105 01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:24,320 finer day and over independence day 2106 01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:26,320 completely changing that legal framework 2107 01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:29,199 to where the decisions back entirely 2108 01:29:29,199 --> 01:29:31,600 enhance local government would be easier 2109 01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:33,600 from a local government perspective I 2110 01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:36,080 think would it would take an incredible 2111 01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:38,719 amount of political capital um if it's 2112 01:29:38,719 --> 01:29:40,719 even possible to move that forward at 2113 01:29:40,719 --> 01:29:42,639 the capital today is not the day to make 2114 01:29:42,639 --> 01:29:44,480 that decision what we're hoping through 2115 01:29:44,480 --> 01:29:46,639 this slido question and that just over 2116 01:29:46,639 --> 01:29:47,760 the next few days as you're thinking 2117 01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:49,199 about next week and you're looking at 2118 01:29:49,199 --> 01:29:50,880 the survey data we've already gathered. 2119 01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:52,080 What else do we want to know from our 2120 01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:54,480 members so that we can prioritize the 2121 01:29:54,480 --> 01:29:56,320 next steps? 2122 01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:59,360 Um I I would love to know if if cities 2123 01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:01,040 reflected and feel like they made the 2124 01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:02,639 right decisions and why how are they 2125 01:30:02,639 --> 01:30:04,080 quantifying that they made the right 2126 01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:06,800 submitted um and then I have about zero 2127 01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:08,239 interest in a bonus blow things up 2128 01:30:08,239 --> 01:30:10,880 today. Mapleton blows stuff up already. 2129 01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:16,880 We we tightened our boundaries up but the idea of expending resources and 2130 01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:19,040 potential risk for one other day to 2131 01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:22,880 compensate for a retail crisis is not 2132 01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:24,400 well we haven't asked the question 2133 01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:25,920 broadly and I'm curious how many would 2134 01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:28,800 be in your thought process versus others 2135 01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:30,080 I've heard who said oh that would be a 2136 01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:32,000 great idea but we just don't know and so 2137 01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,719 we haven't said anything in detail to 2138 01:30:34,719 --> 01:30:37,760 the to the legislature yet about that 2139 01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:41,120 one thing on the feedback from residents 2140 01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:43,679 the survey results after the fourth 2141 01:30:43,679 --> 01:30:45,840 which you get with 115 response versus 2142 01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:49,120 31 response. We asked you to tell us 2143 01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:50,719 what the general feedback was from 2144 01:30:50,719 --> 01:30:53,600 residents on a scale of very supportive 2145 01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:57,520 to to very opposed seven point scale. 2146 01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:00,000 41% of you reported the public was very 2147 01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:02,480 supportive of what the city did. 36% 2148 01:31:02,480 --> 01:31:04,639 reported supportive. 7% reported 2149 01:31:04,639 --> 01:31:06,800 slightly supportive. So those three on 2150 01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:09,520 the supportive scale were 83%. 2151 01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:11,440 And then another 7% said neither 2152 01:31:11,440 --> 01:31:15,520 supportive or opposed. So only 10% said 2153 01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:17,440 our our residents were opposed to what 2154 01:31:17,440 --> 01:31:19,360 we did. Now you'll notice I didn't frame 2155 01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:21,520 the question of 2156 01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:24,080 >> which one did you 2157 01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:26,000 took action. Did your resident support 2158 01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:27,920 you? And it was overwhelming. Yes. We 2159 01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:30,159 asked that same question after pioneer 2160 01:31:30,159 --> 01:31:32,320 day but the survey result or the survey 2161 01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:33,520 sample size is just a little bit 2162 01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:35,520 smaller. Can you split those out to us 2163 01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:37,520 so we can understand the decision that 2164 01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:39,120 was made and where the support 2165 01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:40,320 >> because I mean I think about our 2166 01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:42,000 situation we constrained a little bit 2167 01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:43,600 but still laugh 2168 01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:46,639 >> and we had citizens saying you're 2169 01:31:46,639 --> 01:31:48,719 willing to burn down all our houses for 2170 01:31:48,719 --> 01:31:51,440 fireworks or America let's blow stuff 2171 01:31:51,440 --> 01:31:54,960 up. So like it was it was a little bit 2172 01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:56,320 so I'm curious. 2173 01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:59,440 >> Yeah. So yes, our our data does we can 2174 01:31:59,440 --> 01:32:02,560 separate it to say which you may add and 2175 01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:05,360 then again in independent days case 83% 2176 01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:08,159 of cities just use the full band 17% 2177 01:32:08,159 --> 01:32:09,760 either didn't use the ban or used it 2178 01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:12,239 partially then that completely flipped 2179 01:32:12,239 --> 01:32:14,000 for pioneer day but we don't have the 2180 01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:17,920 same robust data set so that'll be part 2181 01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:20,000 of the goal LPC is try to fill up the 2182 01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:23,920 data set so we can sort of 2183 01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:27,040 the long need for fireworks in that fall 2184 01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:30,080 time. Come up to West Point. It's Yeah, 2185 01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:31,840 they have their illumination event. It's 2186 01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:34,400 like Disney levels. 2187 01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:35,360 Okay. 2188 01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:37,280 >> Um 2189 01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:41,440 we do have New Year's and I I expect 2190 01:32:41,440 --> 01:32:43,600 there were some people in our community, 2191 01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:44,880 even though they could, they chose not 2192 01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:46,960 to. And I don't think they're going to 2193 01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:48,400 give the fireworks back. So, I'm 2194 01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:51,040 expecting that New Year's will be real. 2195 01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:52,400 >> Honestly, we probably don't want to 2196 01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:55,270 store, right? 2197 01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:56,320 There's not only New Year's, there's 2198 01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:58,560 also Chinese New Year's 2199 01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:01,520 >> that happens in a similar time frame 2200 01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:03,679 kind of winter time frame. 2201 01:33:03,679 --> 01:33:05,520 >> Um, 2202 01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:08,880 so I guess to the ULCTAC team, you feel 2203 01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:10,719 like this is going to get you what you 2204 01:33:10,719 --> 01:33:14,080 need to inform LPC. I think there's 2205 01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:16,320 going to be what would we like to talk 2206 01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:18,880 about and then there's going to be what 2207 01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:21,120 the legislature will tell us that they 2208 01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:23,280 would like us to talk about. that I'm 2209 01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:27,600 willing to talk about and and there may be overlap in that ven diagram 2210 01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:30,239 or the circles may be 2211 01:33:30,239 --> 01:33:32,560 >> very far which is why we're trying to 2212 01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:35,199 make sure we know what what our members 2213 01:33:35,199 --> 01:33:37,280 would like to see accomplished here so 2214 01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:39,920 that as we get into sausage making maybe 2215 01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:42,159 we say these three things are really 2216 01:33:42,159 --> 01:33:43,840 important to us but we can live with the 2217 01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:45,920 change over here 2218 01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:47,679 that's what we're trying to gather now 2219 01:33:47,679 --> 01:33:49,840 before we're meeting the credit I'm 2220 01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:52,719 doing and I chatted late in July 2221 01:33:52,719 --> 01:33:54,239 And I told him, "We've learned some 2222 01:33:54,239 --> 01:33:55,679 interesting lessons like I mentioned the 2223 01:33:55,679 --> 01:33:58,880 environmental definition." He said, "I 2224 01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:00,960 didn't know that." And I said, "I'd like 2225 01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:02,320 to sit down with you and just walk 2226 01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:04,320 through some of these lessons learned 2227 01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:06,000 because legislators supported him in 2228 01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:07,440 this space and he agreed to do so." So 2229 01:34:07,440 --> 01:34:08,560 that's why we're trying to gather the 2230 01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:11,040 information and take back forth those 2231 01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:13,920 conversations. So 2232 01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:16,159 Doug is a very thoughtful lot that he's 2233 01:34:16,159 --> 01:34:18,639 going to be doing some of these efforts. 2234 01:34:18,639 --> 01:34:20,400 Um, 2235 01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:22,080 I think it's important not to have 2236 01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:31,430 explosive personalities. 2237 01:34:31,440 --> 01:34:33,440 » So, this question 2238 01:34:33,440 --> 01:34:35,040 come up next few days, let us know so we 2239 01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:36,080 can figure out the right questions to 2240 01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:38,639 ask at LPC. It'll be a very heavy slide 2241 01:34:38,639 --> 01:34:41,679 at LPC. Uh, just because a lot of broken 2242 01:34:41,679 --> 01:34:44,320 pieces. Um, next in the property tax 2243 01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:48,719 space in your in your packet you have 2244 01:34:48,719 --> 01:34:51,040 Alexa's phenomenal research about what's 2245 01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:52,639 been going on in the property tax space. 2246 01:34:52,639 --> 01:34:55,199 So Alexa, can you just take a moment to 2247 01:34:55,199 --> 01:34:57,440 give a high level overview of what 2248 01:34:57,440 --> 01:34:59,600 you've done over the last few months 2249 01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:00,800 tracking what's happening in the 2250 01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:01,840 property tax world? 2251 01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:04,000 >> Yeah, absolutely. I will be quick for 2252 01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:06,000 time sake, but in bountiful I told you 2253 01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:07,760 all that we had been working on 2254 01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:10,080 collecting property tax impact schedules 2255 01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:12,400 from every city increasing proposing to 2256 01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:15,199 increase property taxes as of late May. 2257 01:35:15,199 --> 01:35:17,440 This memo was built off of that data, 2258 01:35:17,440 --> 01:35:19,520 those property tax impact schedules from 2259 01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:22,000 May. Since then, we have collected data 2260 01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:24,400 from data on increase amounts from the 2261 01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:26,960 June 22nd levy deadline, the July 2262 01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:29,280 notices, and then we also will collect 2263 01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:31,679 data on the increase amounts like when 2264 01:35:31,679 --> 01:35:33,199 all is said and done after the choose 2265 01:35:33,199 --> 01:35:35,440 and taxation hearing. So, our goal with 2266 01:35:35,440 --> 01:35:37,120 collecting all of this data is to be 2267 01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:38,960 able to, of course, say how many cities 2268 01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:40,480 are proposing to increase property 2269 01:35:40,480 --> 01:35:43,280 taxes, what those proposed increases are 2270 01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:47,440 for, and if we've seen the changes made 2271 01:35:47,440 --> 01:35:49,679 from these past legislative session, if 2272 01:35:49,679 --> 01:35:51,360 those changes have resulted in the 2273 01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:53,040 objectives that the legislature wanted 2274 01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:54,880 to see, which is bringing the public 2275 01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:57,120 into the process as early as possible 2276 01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:59,520 and thus the city being more responsive 2277 01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:01,600 to public feedback about property tax 2278 01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:03,440 increases. So, you have the memo in 2279 01:36:03,440 --> 01:36:04,880 front of you, so I won't spend too much 2280 01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:06,560 time on these points. And again, I'm 2281 01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:08,239 planning on updating all of this with 2282 01:36:08,239 --> 01:36:10,080 that new data from June, July, and 2283 01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:12,080 August. But first, we found that there's 2284 01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:14,880 52 there's 78 total entities proposing 2285 01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:17,360 to increase property taxes in 52 of 2286 01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:19,679 these are cities. The median increase is 2287 01:36:19,679 --> 01:36:23,040 15% or 28,43. 2288 01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:24,960 We found that public safety accounted 2289 01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:26,880 for the biggest variation in those 2290 01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:28,719 increase amounts. So, cities that are 2291 01:36:28,719 --> 01:36:30,800 increasing property taxes in part are 2292 01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:33,600 all to cover public safety expenses are 2293 01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:36,800 have a median increase of $465,000, 2294 01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:39,840 which is about $489% higher than the 2295 01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:41,280 median increase for those cities that 2296 01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:42,880 are increasing property taxes for 2297 01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:44,480 reasons other than public safety 2298 01:36:44,480 --> 01:36:46,719 expenses. Um, similarly, we found that 2299 01:36:46,719 --> 01:36:50,000 63% of cities um that are increasing 2300 01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:51,840 property taxes are doing so because of 2301 01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:54,719 public safety. And for 30% of those 2302 01:36:54,719 --> 01:36:56,560 municipalities or 30% of the total 2303 01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:58,000 municipalities going through truth and 2304 01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:00,400 taxation, 100% of the increase is going 2305 01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:02,560 to be used for public safety. We also 2306 01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:04,560 looked into cities such as Mayor Burton 2307 01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:06,560 that have opted to do more regular 2308 01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:09,280 increases at a lower amount more so to 2309 01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:12,400 keep in line with rising costs costs as 2310 01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:14,239 opposed to maybe providing like 2311 01:37:14,239 --> 01:37:16,400 extensive enhanced services. And we 2312 01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:18,159 found that those communities on average 2313 01:37:18,159 --> 01:37:21,119 have a 55% lower median proposed 2314 01:37:21,119 --> 01:37:22,960 increase as opposed to cities that are 2315 01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:24,560 increasing property taxes to provide 2316 01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:26,639 enhanced services. We looked at other 2317 01:37:26,639 --> 01:37:28,800 reasons for why cities are proposing 2318 01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:30,800 increases for their property taxes. So, 2319 01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:32,800 new employees, capital improvement 2320 01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:34,880 projects, and infrastructure repairs and 2321 01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:36,880 maintenance, parks and recreation costs, 2322 01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:38,639 and employee cost of living adjustments 2323 01:37:38,639 --> 01:37:40,320 and merit increases. So, we've taken 2324 01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:42,159 note of all of that. And then we also 2325 01:37:42,159 --> 01:37:43,679 looked into cities that originally 2326 01:37:43,679 --> 01:37:46,080 proposed to increase property taxes but 2327 01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:48,000 since then have decided to back out and 2328 01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:49,840 not do an increase this year. So we 2329 01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:51,199 think that a lot of that that though 2330 01:37:51,199 --> 01:37:53,360 that's 14 different municipalities. And 2331 01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:55,440 we think a lot of that is accounted for 2332 01:37:55,440 --> 01:37:57,040 because cities heard from residents 2333 01:37:57,040 --> 01:37:58,880 earlier in the process that said, hey, 2334 01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:00,560 there's other ways that we could work 2335 01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:02,000 this out. There's other ways we could do 2336 01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:03,440 the budget. We can hold off an increase 2337 01:38:03,440 --> 01:38:04,880 for this year. And cities were 2338 01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:07,119 responsive to that and decided not to go 2339 01:38:07,119 --> 01:38:09,280 property tax increase. So please review. 2340 01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:11,119 I ask you that you review this memo and 2341 01:38:11,119 --> 01:38:13,040 as I'm putting together research from 2342 01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:15,040 June, July, and August, if there's other 2343 01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:16,480 data points that you think would be 2344 01:38:16,480 --> 01:38:18,480 valuable for us to share with legislator 2345 01:38:18,480 --> 01:38:21,040 legislators, please let me know. Um, and 2346 01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:22,639 yeah, I'm happy to answer any questions 2347 01:38:22,639 --> 01:38:24,800 that 2348 01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:29,669 I think we have a good story to tell. 2349 01:38:29,679 --> 01:38:33,910 » Go ahead. 2350 01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:35,373 Every now and then we have to do 2351 01:38:35,373 --> 01:38:37,440 [clears throat] that because my basic 2352 01:38:37,440 --> 01:38:39,760 point there are over a thousand entities 2353 01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:41,600 that could have raised property taxes in 2354 01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:45,840 the state. We ended up with about 78. 2355 01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:48,719 We've got two out 2356 01:38:48,719 --> 01:38:52,480 260 cities about the same percentage 2357 01:38:52,480 --> 01:38:55,119 including number held off from last year 2358 01:38:55,119 --> 01:38:59,920 or had their uh increases canled. 2359 01:38:59,920 --> 01:39:01,280 all the evidence that they made an 2360 01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:03,600 enormous effort of the legislature 2361 01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:06,239 involved while there's some tough 2362 01:39:06,239 --> 01:39:09,600 circumstances well make it work made it 2363 01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:11,440 work so I mean I would say to all of us 2364 01:39:11,440 --> 01:39:14,480 here very good job our cities on the 2365 01:39:14,480 --> 01:39:17,679 whole there's a good story 2366 01:39:17,679 --> 01:39:20,320 >> now on that note on a story to tell we 2367 01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:21,600 have shared some of this preliminary 2368 01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:23,520 data with representative Peterson who's 2369 01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:25,199 leaving the legislature through the year 2370 01:39:25,199 --> 01:39:27,600 but as the one who spearheaded house 2371 01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:29,600 bill 236 we've been bringing this back 2372 01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:31,440 to her and about her feedback of what 2373 01:39:31,440 --> 01:39:32,960 would be helpful for her colleagues to 2374 01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:35,199 learn. Uh I spoke with Speaker Schultz 2375 01:39:35,199 --> 01:39:37,199 about this, so he's expecting us to come 2376 01:39:37,199 --> 01:39:39,679 to a presentation to show what cities 2377 01:39:39,679 --> 01:39:42,320 did in the property tax space, but the 2378 01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:45,520 storm clouds are as dark as ever on 2379 01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:48,320 property tax around the country and and 2380 01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:50,639 locally. So, just some situational 2381 01:39:50,639 --> 01:39:52,400 awareness for you. Molly and I were at 2382 01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:53,760 National League of Cities event a couple 2383 01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:55,600 of weeks ago. The Florida League 2384 01:39:55,600 --> 01:40:02,480 presented on Next Battle. Uh they have a governor-led constitutional amendment 2385 01:40:02,480 --> 01:40:04,800 on the ballot in November that long 2386 01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:07,280 story short phases out municipal 2387 01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:09,280 property tax keeps property tax for 2388 01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:11,840 schools phases out municipal and county 2389 01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:14,480 property tax. 2390 01:40:14,480 --> 01:40:15,119 Sorry, 2391 01:40:15,119 --> 01:40:16,320 >> what are they replacing it with? 2392 01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:17,119 >> Nothing. 2393 01:40:17,119 --> 01:40:20,000 >> And in the aggregate it would be a $6 2394 01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:21,600 billion 2395 01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:25,119 shortfall for local governments. 2396 01:40:25,119 --> 01:40:26,960 Florida. 2397 01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:28,400 >> Okay. But what happens in Florida 2398 01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:30,239 doesn't stay in Florida. Ohio has a 2399 01:40:30,239 --> 01:40:33,840 similar constitutional amendment. 2400 01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:36,000 >> I have here from one of our summer 2401 01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:37,600 conferences. This is the essential 2402 01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:40,320 policy solutions from Alec. This is a 2403 01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:42,159 conference that a lot of legislative 2404 01:40:42,159 --> 01:40:44,560 attend. I've got several [clears throat] 2405 01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:46,320 materials I brought back from our team 2406 01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:49,040 that I attended. Interestingly, 2407 01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:50,639 Alec, if you read the property tax 2408 01:40:50,639 --> 01:40:53,760 reform section here, highlights Utah's 2409 01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:56,480 truth and taxation model as a national 2410 01:40:56,480 --> 01:40:58,800 model and saying states should follow 2411 01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:00,159 this. So, we've had a lot of questions 2412 01:41:00,159 --> 01:41:02,000 from state leagues around the country 2413 01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:03,280 like tell us more about your truth and 2414 01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:06,080 taxation approach. Molly and I are 2415 01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:08,560 participating with other state leagues 2416 01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:10,400 through the National League of Cities on 2417 01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:13,040 the property tax and the videos that we 2418 01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:14,480 put together this spring that many of 2419 01:41:14,480 --> 01:41:16,239 your cities used. We shared at our 2420 01:41:16,239 --> 01:41:17,440 National League of Cities conference a 2421 01:41:17,440 --> 01:41:19,040 couple weeks ago that Florida's going to 2422 01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:21,520 use them as as well as other states and 2423 01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:23,600 how to explain property tax to 2424 01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:25,199 residents. 2425 01:41:25,199 --> 01:41:27,360 So, I should take it as a good sign that 2426 01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:30,800 ALEC is holding up our model, but we've 2427 01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:33,679 heard from multiple legislators who are 2428 01:41:33,679 --> 01:41:35,600 still frustrated that Utah doesn't have 2429 01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:37,600 property tax caps and that Utah doesn't 2430 01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:40,320 have more restrictions on property tax. 2431 01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:42,639 And then we've been following the con 2432 01:41:42,639 --> 01:41:44,639 the localized controversies around the 2433 01:41:44,639 --> 01:41:46,560 state and there are several cities where 2434 01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:49,040 we anticipate referendums and in one 2435 01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:51,679 particular city's case the state senator 2436 01:41:51,679 --> 01:41:53,600 who represents that city is one of the 2437 01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:55,920 co-sponsors of the referendum. 2438 01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:57,920 >> So it just gives you a sense of the 2439 01:41:57,920 --> 01:41:59,600 political dynamic around property tax. 2440 01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:01,280 So this is why Alexexas been doing all 2441 01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:03,440 this research about what cities are 2442 01:42:03,440 --> 01:42:05,040 doing so we can take that back to 2443 01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:07,440 legislators and say last year's bill to 2444 01:42:07,440 --> 01:42:09,119 increase transparency and increase 2445 01:42:09,119 --> 01:42:10,960 dialogue with the public and show our 2446 01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:14,560 work. Here's how it worked. Okay, that 2447 01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:15,920 being said, we've got another slide of 2448 01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:18,159 question of your in anticipation of LPC 2449 01:42:18,159 --> 01:42:19,520 next week. What else do you want to 2450 01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:21,520 learn from the members to inform our 2451 01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:23,199 next steps on property tax? Because we 2452 01:42:23,199 --> 01:42:25,760 want to bring back together our advisory 2453 01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:27,440 group on property tax in the midl last 2454 01:42:27,440 --> 01:42:29,920 year. We've made a list and Alexa has 2455 01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:31,679 been the keeper of the list. Just 2456 01:42:31,679 --> 01:42:34,080 technical issues that have arisen. 2457 01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:35,600 Everyone's paying attention to every 2458 01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:38,560 detail. So from Draper to Salt Lake and 2459 01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:40,560 others, we keep getting messages from 2460 01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:45,440 city saying, "Oh, you know, this term is incorrect. Grand Fork highlighted one 2461 01:42:45,440 --> 01:42:47,280 back in May that was not part of last 2462 01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:49,199 year's bills. It's just been in law for 2463 01:42:49,199 --> 01:42:50,800 a while, but it was an inconsistency 2464 01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:53,199 that we caught this year for the first 2465 01:42:53,199 --> 01:42:54,960 time. So that's on our technical list." 2466 01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:57,119 Okay. And then there's also just the 2467 01:42:57,119 --> 01:42:59,040 politics and the communication side. So 2468 01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:00,560 if there's anything else that you want 2469 01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:01,920 to make sure we learn from our 2470 01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:04,639 membership next week and beyond, 2471 01:43:04,639 --> 01:43:06,639 politics are going to heat up. And oh, 2472 01:43:06,639 --> 01:43:08,480 one other thing in the Florida case, the 2473 01:43:08,480 --> 01:43:12,080 Florida governor created a uh a doge for 2474 01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:15,760 local governments. And in that doge for 2475 01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:17,920 local governments, they created a a 2476 01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:19,840 formula where they said anything above 2477 01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:21,920 this formula is by definition local 2478 01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:23,920 government waste. And then they went on 2479 01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:25,199 a road show around the state. I'm not 2480 01:43:25,199 --> 01:43:26,400 making any of this up. While he was 2481 01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:29,360 there, too. And he's been going around 2482 01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:31,600 the state doing video blogs and other 2483 01:43:31,600 --> 01:43:33,040 things pointing out all the waste in 2484 01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:35,520 local governments. And interestingly, 2485 01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:38,400 some of the exact same language that we 2486 01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:40,639 saw from Florida two weeks ago, we are 2487 01:43:40,639 --> 01:43:43,360 now seeing pop up in some of the 2488 01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:45,040 referendum organizers and some of the 2489 01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:46,320 people have been pushing back on local 2490 01:43:46,320 --> 01:43:49,119 properties in Utah. Word for word, the 2491 01:43:49,119 --> 01:43:50,960 same language. The other thing that 2492 01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:52,639 we've been seeing is watching the trends 2493 01:43:52,639 --> 01:43:54,400 in the last few weeks is a lot more push 2494 01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:56,239 back on cities around property tax 2495 01:43:56,239 --> 01:43:58,639 increases. If your city has engaged in 2496 01:43:58,639 --> 01:44:01,040 tax income financing or if you've done a 2497 01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:03,360 pin and saying if you had not done tax 2498 01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:04,880 income and financing, you wouldn't be 2499 01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:07,600 raising my property tax now. So all 2500 01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:11,679 these pieces are are moving around 2501 01:44:11,679 --> 01:44:14,320 longer context than that to be able to 2502 01:44:14,320 --> 01:44:16,159 >> how we were mandated to do that. We were 2503 01:44:16,159 --> 01:44:17,840 told to do it. It was put into law. We 2504 01:44:17,840 --> 01:44:19,360 have to do it because we have to get the 2505 01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:21,440 development built. This is the answer. 2506 01:44:21,440 --> 01:44:23,440 is public financing. This 2507 01:44:23,440 --> 01:44:26,400 way, 2508 01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:28,000 >> so this is why this is why we have the 2509 01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:31,040 open like you as a board between now and 2510 01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:32,719 when we meet in September. What else do 2511 01:44:32,719 --> 01:44:35,119 you want to learn from the members so 2512 01:44:35,119 --> 01:44:36,639 that as we get in the fall, we're 2513 01:44:36,639 --> 01:44:39,440 prioritizing our our political approach 2514 01:44:39,440 --> 01:44:41,360 on property tax. What else do you want 2515 01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:42,560 to know? Because the issue is not going 2516 01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:44,159 away. I think we have a good story to 2517 01:44:44,159 --> 01:44:46,560 tell. Thanks to Alexa and research team 2518 01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:47,679 for everything they've done over the 2519 01:44:47,679 --> 01:44:49,040 last few months, but what else do you 2520 01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:53,030 want to know? 2521 01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:56,880 » Um, while I was at the House Majority 2522 01:44:56,880 --> 01:45:01,280 Caucus fundraiser last week, um, 2523 01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:03,360 the speaker 2524 01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:06,480 uh asked me what my city had done with 2525 01:45:06,480 --> 01:45:08,719 taxation. We we did not have one this 2526 01:45:08,719 --> 01:45:11,199 year. Um, but I talked to him about some 2527 01:45:11,199 --> 01:45:12,719 of the boards I'm on with special 2528 01:45:12,719 --> 01:45:14,239 service districts that did and I talked 2529 01:45:14,239 --> 01:45:16,159 about how helpful I thought the tax 2530 01:45:16,159 --> 01:45:18,800 impact statement was. Um, he had an 2531 01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:21,280 interesting comment uh and feedback 2532 01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:24,960 which I'll just share. He he said he 2533 01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:27,360 really hopes cities will consider doing 2534 01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:33,199 annual small increases. Um, and I let 2535 01:45:33,199 --> 01:45:34,400 him know that we would be having some 2536 01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:46,870 data to share. So I um in add 2537 01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:48,719 both of them last week and so be setting 2538 01:45:48,719 --> 01:45:50,560 an appointment once truth and taxation 2539 01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:53,760 season was over. But there's still enough hearings this week 2540 01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:55,199 and next week. We want to wait till 2541 01:45:55,199 --> 01:45:57,119 season's over and we know the lay of the 2542 01:45:57,119 --> 01:45:59,119 land and then we can bring the full 2543 01:45:59,119 --> 01:46:00,320 data. But that's why this is your 2544 01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:01,920 window. There's other things you want us 2545 01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:04,480 to to gather. You may need to know now 2546 01:46:04,480 --> 01:46:06,080 so we can maximize the next couple 2547 01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:06,560 weeks. 2548 01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:08,960 >> It was worth had our hearings already. 2549 01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:14,390 We had two people show up and only one 2550 01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:16,400 » hearings. That's that's the key word. 2551 01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:17,280 Like 2552 01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:18,719 >> hearings and then the hearings are the 2553 01:46:18,719 --> 01:46:20,800 hearings of the hearings of the 2554 01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:21,440 hearings. 2555 01:46:21,440 --> 01:46:22,719 >> We did one of the technical cleanup 2556 01:46:22,719 --> 01:46:24,639 pieces. 2557 01:46:24,639 --> 01:46:26,159 >> Yeah. 2558 01:46:26,159 --> 01:46:29,430 reinforcing 2559 01:46:29,440 --> 01:46:33,528 question attendance at the hearing. 2560 01:46:33,528 --> 01:46:33,760 [clears throat] 2561 01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:37,600 >> How many people showed up? 2562 01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:45,990 >> We might have maybe not including 2563 01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:48,000 » we had le staff go to quite a few 2564 01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:49,520 taxation hearings so we could watch 2565 01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:50,960 them. But if Representative Karen 2566 01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:52,880 Peterson were here, she would say the 2567 01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:55,280 whole purpose of her bill was to not 2568 01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:56,560 increase the turnout in August. It was 2569 01:46:56,560 --> 01:46:58,080 to increase the turnout in May. But the 2570 01:46:58,080 --> 01:46:59,280 point is it work. 2571 01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:01,360 >> Yeah. And I I think again just based on 2572 01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:03,600 feedback we had more people show up in B 2573 01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:05,040 otherwise. But that would be a good data 2574 01:47:05,040 --> 01:47:07,199 point actually to ask next week is did 2575 01:47:07,199 --> 01:47:09,119 you see an increase in participation in 2576 01:47:09,119 --> 01:47:09,679 May? 2577 01:47:09,679 --> 01:47:12,080 >> So let's let's add that. Okay. 2578 01:47:12,080 --> 01:47:13,760 >> I'm putting it in the slides so that you 2579 01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:17,360 guys won't remember it. 2580 01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:21,360 >> Okay. We're going to keep going. um 2581 01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:24,239 on the proper tax project. So Justin, do 2582 01:47:24,239 --> 01:47:25,440 you want to ask a quick question on the 2583 01:47:25,440 --> 01:47:26,719 process piece and then I'll give an 2584 01:47:26,719 --> 01:47:28,159 update on the two advisory committees 2585 01:47:28,159 --> 01:47:29,760 and then finish up? 2586 01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:31,600 >> Thank you. And this is uh we'll do this 2587 01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:32,800 quick this is sort of the start of a 2588 01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:34,880 discussion not 2589 01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:37,520 um we haven't we haven't passed a 2590 01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:40,480 resolution um for about three years at 2591 01:47:40,480 --> 01:47:42,320 our annual conference. Uh we used to do 2592 01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:44,800 a lot more resolutions. Um, for some of 2593 01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:46,239 you, you may have never actually gone 2594 01:47:46,239 --> 01:47:48,159 through the resolution process, and some 2595 01:47:48,159 --> 01:47:50,639 of you have fond or less fond memories 2596 01:47:50,639 --> 01:47:53,360 of certain resolutions, depending on 2597 01:47:53,360 --> 01:47:55,520 what that looks like. Um, many other 2598 01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:59,199 leagues around the country um, bifurcate 2599 01:47:59,199 --> 01:48:01,119 the resolution process and policy 2600 01:48:01,119 --> 01:48:03,360 process. We don't really have anything 2601 01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:06,080 that is a standard policy platform right 2602 01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:08,639 now. Um, and so that's all by way of 2603 01:48:08,639 --> 01:48:10,560 background. The other thing that we do 2604 01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:11,679 that many other leagues around the 2605 01:48:11,679 --> 01:48:13,760 country don't do is we check in with our 2606 01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:16,800 members all the time during session we 2607 01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:19,360 meet every week in LBC uh we meet you 2608 01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:22,400 know almost monthly during the offseason 2609 01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:24,320 um we're meeting with you as a board 2610 01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:26,880 talk about policy issues so from a 2611 01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:28,400 policy platform or resolutions 2612 01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:30,880 perspective we almost have de direct 2613 01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:33,440 democracy here where you get away on 2614 01:48:33,440 --> 01:48:36,159 pretty much everything we do and so all 2615 01:48:36,159 --> 01:48:38,400 of that background is to sort of pose a 2616 01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:40,480 question as we go forward and this is 2617 01:48:40,480 --> 01:48:41,679 something I want you to think about. We 2618 01:48:41,679 --> 01:48:42,880 can come back and talk about it next 2619 01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:45,440 month um as we come back in the board. 2620 01:48:45,440 --> 01:48:47,920 But what should our resolution policy 2621 01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:50,480 platform process look like? Um we've got 2622 01:48:50,480 --> 01:48:53,040 a lot of old resolutions that are 2623 01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:54,719 somewhat informative. Some of them help 2624 01:48:54,719 --> 01:48:56,159 us. We look back and we say, "Yeah, 2625 01:48:56,159 --> 01:48:58,400 that's correct." But we haven't had a 2626 01:48:58,400 --> 01:48:59,760 resolution in years where we haven't 2627 01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:01,520 also turned around to LBC and said, 2628 01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:04,159 "Here's what a resolution says, but now 2629 01:49:04,159 --> 01:49:06,480 we've got a bill. So what do we want to 2630 01:49:06,480 --> 01:49:08,719 do with that?" um do we follow the 2631 01:49:08,719 --> 01:49:10,320 resolution or we have a negotiation of 2632 01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:11,440 reason that we're not going to quite 2633 01:49:11,440 --> 01:49:13,520 follow the resolution? Um doing our 2634 01:49:13,520 --> 01:49:16,719 resolutions at annual in the fall is 2635 01:49:16,719 --> 01:49:19,040 months away from session um when we 2636 01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:20,560 actually get around to debating the 2637 01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:24,400 actual bills. Um so that's again a lot 2638 01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:26,880 of background um and we get some quick 2639 01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:29,600 feedback now kind of plant in your mind 2640 01:49:29,600 --> 01:49:32,960 going forward. Um what should this look 2641 01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:34,719 like? Are resolutions something that we 2642 01:49:34,719 --> 01:49:35,760 should be done with or are the 2643 01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:38,400 resolutions we should use as at a 2644 01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:40,880 different time? For example, do we have 2645 01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:43,840 resolutions that are by the board? Um, 2646 01:49:43,840 --> 01:49:45,840 you know, more around local officials 2647 01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:47,600 face. So, the first of the session we 2648 01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:49,040 say, all right, now we kind of know what 2649 01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:52,239 the f looks like this year. Um, do we 2650 01:49:52,239 --> 01:49:54,159 have a policy platform that sort of lays 2651 01:49:54,159 --> 01:49:56,000 out, you know, here's where we are on 2652 01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:57,520 both issues and it's a little bit more 2653 01:49:57,520 --> 01:49:59,440 vague, but it gives us some guidance 2654 01:49:59,440 --> 01:50:02,000 going forward. The other thing um is 2655 01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:04,320 we've had some pretty stable leadership 2656 01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:06,080 at the league. Um so we have some 2657 01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:08,239 institutional memory. Heaven forbid if 2658 01:50:08,239 --> 01:50:09,600 we got to a place where we're switching 2659 01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:12,400 over on the regular with staff, then 2660 01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:14,239 maybe resolution matter more because 2661 01:50:14,239 --> 01:50:16,800 that formula. So I throw all of that out 2662 01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:19,920 there um to ask the question without 2663 01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:21,520 expecting an answer right now, but for 2664 01:50:21,520 --> 01:50:24,080 you to all go back and think about this 2665 01:50:24,080 --> 01:50:25,600 is well what should our process look 2666 01:50:25,600 --> 01:50:28,320 like as far as setting some policies? Do 2667 01:50:28,320 --> 01:50:29,760 we make a multiple platform? Should we 2668 01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:31,840 change what resolutions look like? Do we 2669 01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:33,679 just talk to you so dar often it really 2670 01:50:33,679 --> 01:50:34,960 doesn't matter what those resolutions 2671 01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:37,520 say anyway? Um but what what should that 2672 01:50:37,520 --> 01:50:39,520 look like? So throw it out there. You 2673 01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:42,400 can give me some gut reaction here um in 2674 01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:44,159 the two minutes we have left. We still 2675 01:50:44,159 --> 01:50:45,760 have to answer some other things, but 2676 01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:47,600 really want to plant 2677 01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:49,600 >> plant that question. So any any initial 2678 01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:52,719 thoughts or um 2679 01:50:52,719 --> 01:50:54,159 >> yeah, let's make a resolution on 2680 01:50:54,159 --> 01:50:57,430 resolutions [laughter] 2681 01:50:57,440 --> 01:50:59,679 » just for the sake of time. How about 2682 01:50:59,679 --> 01:51:01,840 everyone puts it in the slido or if the 2683 01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:06,560 slido closes we we can email staff um on 2684 01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:09,119 this question 2685 01:51:09,119 --> 01:51:11,360 and Jared mentioned that we have an 2686 01:51:11,360 --> 01:51:13,199 impact fee resolution draft resolution 2687 01:51:13,199 --> 01:51:16,400 that we brought to the LPC subgroup and 2688 01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:18,560 the reason we're doing that as staff is 2689 01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:20,239 we're trying to align all of us on the 2690 01:51:20,239 --> 01:51:22,159 core principles around impact fees so 2691 01:51:22,159 --> 01:51:23,760 it's less about bills more about those 2692 01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:25,040 core principles so that gets back to 2693 01:51:25,040 --> 01:51:27,840 what Justin was just saying of what role 2694 01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:30,560 is of the board and obviously what we've 2695 01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:33,360 done successfully the last few years and 2696 01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:36,080 Molly's case in point on this is we had 2697 01:51:36,080 --> 01:51:37,440 the board adopt principles on 2698 01:51:37,440 --> 01:51:40,480 homelessness and that you as a board 2699 01:51:40,480 --> 01:51:42,080 adopted those principles and then she's 2700 01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:44,960 put them in action subgroup and over the 2701 01:51:44,960 --> 01:51:47,360 last few years so instead of going all 2702 01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:49,119 the way back to the membership which is 2703 01:51:49,119 --> 01:51:51,520 what we're designed to do we flip it and 2704 01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:53,280 it comes to the board but just indicated 2705 01:51:53,280 --> 01:51:54,560 some things have started doing that with 2706 01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:56,719 some success 2707 01:51:56,719 --> 01:52:01,520 so anyway these open questions and 2708 01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:03,280 whether you fill it out now or think 2709 01:52:03,280 --> 01:52:06,320 about it later, we we welcome feedback. 2710 01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:07,920 We'll have one other slido question 2711 01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:09,679 after this which gets to what Mayor 2712 01:52:09,679 --> 01:52:11,920 Burton was saying earlier about flock. 2713 01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:14,639 Um Justin mentioned water. There's there 2714 01:52:14,639 --> 01:52:18,480 are a lot of big issues that when we met 2715 01:52:18,480 --> 01:52:19,920 in June hadn't really started yet and 2716 01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:22,639 are now starting up. So the last final 2717 01:52:22,639 --> 01:52:24,239 question that you can just advance to is 2718 01:52:24,239 --> 01:52:25,360 if there's anything out there that 2719 01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:26,960 you're hearing from your colleagues or 2720 01:52:26,960 --> 01:52:28,080 your city that you want to make sure is 2721 01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:30,159 on our radar, let us know because 2722 01:52:30,159 --> 01:52:31,840 that'll help us build out the uh the 2723 01:52:31,840 --> 01:52:34,080 next few LPC agendas and the work groups 2724 01:52:34,080 --> 01:52:37,360 and the like. So just anything else 2725 01:52:37,360 --> 01:52:40,159 um on the advocacy front? 2726 01:52:40,159 --> 01:52:42,639 >> The the only other thing I'll add is and 2727 01:52:42,639 --> 01:52:44,880 already we we are fortunate in that we 2728 01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:46,719 do check in with our members very often. 2729 01:52:46,719 --> 01:52:48,320 opportunity. 2730 01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:50,800 We really don't have to guess um very 2731 01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:53,119 often where we're at on things. Um 2732 01:52:53,119 --> 01:52:54,560 during the session, I mean, the officers 2733 01:52:54,560 --> 01:52:56,400 know this. I mean, we have multiple 2734 01:52:56,400 --> 01:52:58,719 calls a week, if not every day um when 2735 01:52:58,719 --> 01:53:01,119 we're checking in on things. So, like I 2736 01:53:01,119 --> 01:53:02,480 say, we we have almost a direct 2737 01:53:02,480 --> 01:53:04,159 democracy here. We're not having to 2738 01:53:04,159 --> 01:53:06,400 guest a lot. So, there's not necessarily 2739 01:53:06,400 --> 01:53:08,800 anything broken with the system, but we 2740 01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:10,239 do want to make sure that we're we're 2741 01:53:10,239 --> 01:53:12,400 capturing things correctly and that um 2742 01:53:12,400 --> 01:53:14,320 that we're getting input the right way. 2743 01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:16,400 uh whatever is the best way to to help 2744 01:53:16,400 --> 01:53:17,840 you know you as board members and our 2745 01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:19,440 larger membership feel like that they 2746 01:53:19,440 --> 01:53:21,199 have input want to make sure that that 2747 01:53:21,199 --> 01:53:22,880 is there to show this isn't a something 2748 01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:25,040 is broken we need to fix it is a is 2749 01:53:25,040 --> 01:53:26,880 there a way we can do this that it works 2750 01:53:26,880 --> 01:53:31,030 better 2751 01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:32,560 as you fill out these last two slid 2752 01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:34,719 questions here's just a quick update on 2753 01:53:34,719 --> 01:53:36,800 the LPC economic development advisory 2754 01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:38,560 subgroup and housing land use advisory 2755 01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:40,080 subgroup several of you are on those 2756 01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:42,480 subgroups because you as a board told us 2757 01:53:42,480 --> 01:53:44,239 you wanted to make sure you individually 2758 01:53:44,239 --> 01:53:47,040 we're each at that subgroup level rather 2759 01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:48,480 than waiting for things to come back to 2760 01:53:48,480 --> 01:53:50,639 you. So we have a good number of board 2761 01:53:50,639 --> 01:53:52,560 members on housing land use and a couple 2762 01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:55,040 on economic development 2763 01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:57,119 coming back from my summer travels. I 2764 01:53:57,119 --> 01:54:00,480 have Alex uh state artificial 2765 01:54:00,480 --> 01:54:03,119 intelligence policy toolkit and I have 2766 01:54:03,119 --> 01:54:05,040 the unleash prosperity boomsday not 2767 01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:06,960 doomsday AI will make us richer happier 2768 01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:08,800 and healthier if anybody wants to take a 2769 01:54:08,800 --> 01:54:11,040 look at these because the primary focus 2770 01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:13,599 of that conference was AI data centers 2771 01:54:13,599 --> 01:54:15,199 and the like and they were very familiar 2772 01:54:15,199 --> 01:54:17,920 with our Boxelder County back pattern um 2773 01:54:17,920 --> 01:54:20,080 in Utah and that was what I spent a lot 2774 01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:21,599 of time talking to our legislators with 2775 01:54:21,599 --> 01:54:23,760 that about and I think there's some 2776 01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:26,320 interesting lessons learned and um from 2777 01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:27,679 that and we got some good feedback from 2778 01:54:27,679 --> 01:54:29,520 our economic development group around 2779 01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:32,560 the bud for test on tax financing pits 2780 01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:36,960 and and data center. So if if you're not 2781 01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:38,080 involved in the economic development 2782 01:54:38,080 --> 01:54:39,440 work group or want to be or want to have 2783 01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:40,400 somebody from your city, that's what 2784 01:54:40,400 --> 01:54:41,760 they're talking about. That's why we 2785 01:54:41,760 --> 01:54:43,920 make sure you head on to the agenda in 2786 01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:46,159 the housing and land use space also from 2787 01:54:46,159 --> 01:54:48,639 my summer conferences. This is one of 2788 01:54:48,639 --> 01:54:50,320 many handouts I picked up around 2789 01:54:50,320 --> 01:54:52,320 housing. This is from George Mason 2790 01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:55,360 University. Cutting zoning down size 2791 01:54:55,360 --> 01:54:57,199 reducing minimum lot size requirements 2792 01:54:57,199 --> 01:55:01,360 can unleash attainable housing. And this 2793 01:55:01,360 --> 01:55:02,800 could have come from any number of 2794 01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:04,320 legislators 2795 01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:06,719 here as well. We've got some interesting 2796 01:55:06,719 --> 01:55:09,199 case studies from some Utah cities that 2797 01:55:09,199 --> 01:55:10,800 are doing some interesting things to 2798 01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:12,080 zoning that we're going to be bringing 2799 01:55:12,080 --> 01:55:14,400 forward internally over the next over 2800 01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:16,560 the next few weeks. We received a copy 2801 01:55:16,560 --> 01:55:18,480 of draft legislation from Representative 2802 01:55:18,480 --> 01:55:20,960 Ward and from Senator Filillmore. Uh 2803 01:55:20,960 --> 01:55:22,480 both of those bills would basically 2804 01:55:22,480 --> 01:55:25,040 erode zoning authority. So unfortunately 2805 01:55:25,040 --> 01:55:26,639 not a surprise based on battles that 2806 01:55:26,639 --> 01:55:28,480 we've had in recent years with 2807 01:55:28,480 --> 01:55:30,000 legislation that they've both sponsored, 2808 01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:31,199 but we're meeting with both of them 2809 01:55:31,199 --> 01:55:33,440 later this week. So we may bring that to 2810 01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:35,119 LPC next week or we may run it through 2811 01:55:35,119 --> 01:55:37,199 the advisory group first. Uh but just 2812 01:55:37,199 --> 01:55:39,040 know that that those bills are out 2813 01:55:39,040 --> 01:55:42,480 there. Uh and there's 2814 01:55:42,480 --> 01:55:44,800 we we are gathering data. Carson did a 2815 01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:46,320 great job looking through data that we 2816 01:55:46,320 --> 01:55:48,400 already have about how cities have zoned 2817 01:55:48,400 --> 01:55:50,320 for smaller lots and what's happening on 2818 01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:52,239 those smaller lots. And then if there 2819 01:55:52,239 --> 01:55:53,280 are cities that are not zoning for 2820 01:55:53,280 --> 01:55:55,440 smaller lots, um that's a helpful data 2821 01:55:55,440 --> 01:55:59,360 point. Also, Alexa and Carson have done 2822 01:55:59,360 --> 01:56:01,119 some outreach to other places in the 2823 01:56:01,119 --> 01:56:03,119 country. So Alexa did some outreach 2824 01:56:03,119 --> 01:56:05,119 based on discussion at the board level 2825 01:56:05,119 --> 01:56:06,960 and the advisory group about the use of 2826 01:56:06,960 --> 01:56:09,280 AI and plan review and some really 2827 01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:11,119 interesting stuff from from our 2828 01:56:11,119 --> 01:56:12,960 counterparts of cities in Wyoming. And 2829 01:56:12,960 --> 01:56:15,119 then Carson and Alexa did some outreach 2830 01:56:15,119 --> 01:56:17,840 to our counterparts in Michigan who have 2831 01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:20,960 implemented a free approved process and 2832 01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:23,599 a toolkit based on the feedback we got 2833 01:56:23,599 --> 01:56:25,199 from that project. So we'll be reporting 2834 01:56:25,199 --> 01:56:26,320 that back, but just wanted to give you 2835 01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:27,760 that overview and thanks again to our 2836 01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:29,199 research team that have been top-notch 2837 01:56:29,199 --> 01:56:32,800 this summer following up on feedback. So 2838 01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:34,400 if there's anything we're missing that 2839 01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:36,239 it's not yet on the radar that Carson 2840 01:56:36,239 --> 01:56:38,239 would just go about make the last slide 2841 01:56:38,239 --> 01:56:41,040 question just put it in and make sure 2842 01:56:41,040 --> 01:56:43,199 we've got it so we can build out LBC 2843 01:56:43,199 --> 01:56:46,560 agenda and other potential work groups. 2844 01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:48,400 Okay with that Mayor Bradshaw I'm just 2845 01:56:48,400 --> 01:56:49,840 going to hit the executive director 2846 01:56:49,840 --> 01:56:52,639 report just anything else in the space. 2847 01:56:52,639 --> 01:56:56,480 Okay. All right. Uh last thing national 2848 01:56:56,480 --> 01:56:59,840 report we actually hit that previously. 2849 01:56:59,840 --> 01:57:01,360 board of directors nominations process 2850 01:57:01,360 --> 01:57:03,520 and time frame. In the packet, Nick has 2851 01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:05,119 the list of those of you whose board 2852 01:57:05,119 --> 01:57:08,480 terms are ending. You can nominate 2853 01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:10,400 yourself. You can apply somebody else 2854 01:57:10,400 --> 01:57:11,760 nominate you, but just about the end of 2855 01:57:11,760 --> 01:57:13,760 the month is the deadline. And 2856 01:57:13,760 --> 01:57:16,800 currently, we have 14 nominations for 2857 01:57:16,800 --> 01:57:19,360 board spots, uh, which is about twice 2858 01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:20,880 the amount of spots we have available. 2859 01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:22,800 And we have five nominations currently 2860 01:57:22,800 --> 01:57:24,800 for second vice president for that one 2861 01:57:24,800 --> 01:57:26,560 spot. Again, the deadline is the end of 2862 01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:28,080 the month. And then based on the 2863 01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:29,679 feedback you gave us spring in St. 2864 01:57:29,679 --> 01:57:31,280 George, we'll continue with our process 2865 01:57:31,280 --> 01:57:33,280 of building out a nominations committee 2866 01:57:33,280 --> 01:57:35,360 that does not have somebody on it from a 2867 01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:38,880 city who's applying. So if Herman City 2868 01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:40,960 is 2869 01:57:40,960 --> 01:57:45,189 you're on the nonpr 2870 01:57:45,199 --> 01:57:47,119 if somebody from Bountiful was buying to 2871 01:57:47,119 --> 01:57:48,800 be on board, we would not have somebody 2872 01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:51,040 from bountiful on the outpatient screen. 2873 01:57:51,040 --> 01:57:52,960 And so we'll be building that out in the 2874 01:57:52,960 --> 01:57:54,159 next couple weeks. We just want to make 2875 01:57:54,159 --> 01:57:55,679 sure you remember the deadline for both 2876 01:57:55,679 --> 01:57:58,400 the board and the tailor service award. 2877 01:57:58,400 --> 01:57:59,920 Um last year we had 20 somewhat 2878 01:57:59,920 --> 01:58:01,520 applications for Taylor service award 2879 01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:04,000 and and hope to have more of those. Uh 2880 01:58:04,000 --> 01:58:05,760 we also have had the resort community 2881 01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:07,840 caucus has been meeting quarterly which 2882 01:58:07,840 --> 01:58:12,080 has been great and then we'll have our annual summer meeting of the mayor's 2883 01:58:12,080 --> 01:58:14,080 cities first and second class that will 2884 01:58:14,080 --> 01:58:17,119 be in early September. also with related 2885 01:58:17,119 --> 01:58:18,480 to National League of Cities is we sent 2886 01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:20,159 three staffers to National League staff 2887 01:58:20,159 --> 01:58:22,000 workshop and then William the director's 2888 01:58:22,000 --> 01:58:24,159 workshop and then we have Shepard who 2889 01:58:24,159 --> 01:58:26,960 represents us on the National League 2890 01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:29,520 board and I'm just really proud of what 2891 01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:32,400 we do as a small staff and what we 2892 01:58:32,400 --> 01:58:34,000 deliver on behalf of our members. I 2893 01:58:34,000 --> 01:58:35,679 think Mayor Shepard hopefully you feel 2894 01:58:35,679 --> 01:58:37,599 this as well elected official side but 2895 01:58:37,599 --> 01:58:39,199 other state leagues really do look to 2896 01:58:39,199 --> 01:58:41,280 our league as a leader in a lot of these 2897 01:58:41,280 --> 01:58:42,880 spaces. Is that the sense you get as 2898 01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:43,119 well? 2899 01:58:43,119 --> 01:58:44,480 >> Yeah, absolutely. It was good. in our 2900 01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:47,679 last uh meeting this couple weeks ago DC 2901 01:58:47,679 --> 01:58:51,199 to actually sit on a panel joint thing 2902 01:58:51,199 --> 01:58:53,031 with Chris Gambulis which 2903 01:58:53,031 --> 01:58:54,480 [clears throat] was a little bit 2904 01:58:54,480 --> 01:58:56,639 surprising for the whole group that was 2905 01:58:56,639 --> 01:59:00,880 there made up of the realtors and the cities and the planners and the 2906 01:59:00,880 --> 01:59:02,560 homebuilders and to have the cities and 2907 01:59:02,560 --> 01:59:03,840 the home builders come together on a 2908 01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:06,800 panel um was pretty good. 2909 01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:09,199 >> I agree. I agree. So, thank you for 2910 01:59:09,199 --> 01:59:10,719 being there. Last last thing I'll note 2911 01:59:10,719 --> 01:59:12,880 just other news from league membership. 2912 01:59:12,880 --> 01:59:14,880 I don't know if Mayor Peterson from 2913 01:59:14,880 --> 01:59:16,800 North Logan is still on but one of her 2914 01:59:16,800 --> 01:59:19,360 colleague and former league board member 2915 01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:21,599 Mayor Brian Cox, Mayor Pip Park who's 2916 01:59:21,599 --> 01:59:24,400 been in city government for as long as 2917 01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:27,920 I've been at the league is resigning for 2918 01:59:27,920 --> 01:59:30,080 health reasons. So just want to pass 2919 01:59:30,080 --> 01:59:33,840 that person. 2920 01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:35,360 >> He's been terrific. A former league 2921 01:59:35,360 --> 01:59:39,280 board member. So he's he has to focus on 2922 01:59:39,280 --> 01:59:40,960 his health and and I'll certainly miss 2923 01:59:40,960 --> 01:59:43,760 him that his wife is very active in in a 2924 01:59:43,760 --> 01:59:45,199 week. So I just want to acknowledge 2925 01:59:45,199 --> 01:59:46,800 Peterson anything you want to add from 2926 01:59:46,800 --> 01:59:47,920 up north 2927 01:59:47,920 --> 01:59:51,440 >> just that he he's in the currently at in 2928 01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:54,080 the hospital in Murray and we're it's 2929 01:59:54,080 --> 01:59:57,679 been it's we keep hoping that having a 2930 01:59:57,679 --> 01:59:59,760 lighter load will improve his health and 2931 01:59:59,760 --> 02:00:02,639 that's just not been the case. So we he 2932 02:00:02,639 --> 02:00:05,840 does have his replacement officially and 2933 02:00:05,840 --> 02:00:08,719 um she'll be really great too. But yeah, 2934 02:00:08,719 --> 02:00:10,880 it's been it's been hard to see him go. 2935 02:00:10,880 --> 02:00:13,599 He's a good friend. 2936 02:00:13,599 --> 02:00:16,239 >> Thank you very he's awesome. So keep him 2937 02:00:16,239 --> 02:00:17,920 in your thoughts and prayers and his 2938 02:00:17,920 --> 02:00:20,719 family as well. 2939 02:00:20,719 --> 02:00:31,109 That was a sad uh update and yeah, maybe we can have some friends visit. 2940 02:00:31,119 --> 02:00:34,320 » I had agreed to just a few weeks ago. 2941 02:00:34,320 --> 02:00:36,800 You wanted me to pass along was just how 2942 02:00:36,800 --> 02:00:39,920 valuable his time in the league has been 2943 02:00:39,920 --> 02:00:47,830 personally his wife that he will miss. 2944 02:00:47,840 --> 02:00:51,920 Yeah, maybe we can find him as well. 2945 02:00:51,920 --> 02:00:54,560 Nick, one thing on the board of 2946 02:00:54,560 --> 02:00:58,639 directors. Um, we will have a new 2947 02:00:58,639 --> 02:01:01,199 past president for Walker. 2948 02:01:01,199 --> 02:01:01,760 >> Yes. 2949 02:01:01,760 --> 02:01:03,520 >> Yep. 2950 02:01:03,520 --> 02:01:05,679 >> Okay. We have reached the end of our 2951 02:01:05,679 --> 02:01:08,320 meeting. As you know, um, the standard 2952 02:01:08,320 --> 02:01:10,800 is from Janax. 2953 02:01:10,800 --> 02:01:13,040 >> So, Dr. 2954 02:01:13,040 --> 02:01:15,679 Can I add one thing before we get I need 2955 02:01:15,679 --> 02:01:18,400 a I need a permission or I've been asked 2956 02:01:18,400 --> 02:01:20,719 again to run for the president of the 2957 02:01:20,719 --> 02:01:23,840 national cities. 2958 02:01:23,840 --> 02:01:25,520 >> It's it's a long shot no but I've got to 2959 02:01:25,520 --> 02:01:26,719 have a letter from the league to support 2960 02:01:26,719 --> 02:01:28,639 that. So 2961 02:01:28,639 --> 02:01:32,880 we mayor I'm I'm comfortable even though 2962 02:01:32,880 --> 02:01:34,320 that's not on the agenda. We've done 2963 02:01:34,320 --> 02:01:36,639 this several years now and I've written 2964 02:01:36,639 --> 02:01:38,320 that letter. 2965 02:01:38,320 --> 02:01:43,910 I would just ask 2966 02:01:43,920 --> 02:01:47,510 » thumbs up. 2967 02:01:47,520 --> 02:01:49,199 » Okay, with that I'll take a motion to 2968 02:01:49,199 --> 02:01:51,360 adjourn. 2969 02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:54,080 >> All in favor of adjouring, please say I. 2970 02:01:54,080 --> 02:01:55,119 >> I. Thanks everybody. 2971 02:01:55,119 --> 02:01:57,679 >> Thank you all for your work. Thank you 2972 02:01:57,679 --> 02:02:01,480 all in Sarah Focus.