1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:03,860 foreign 2 00:00:32,820 --> 00:00:43,079 for May 23rd yeah 2023. are there any additions or deletions to 3 00:00:40,620 --> 00:00:47,960 the agenda Brady I have one under buildings and grounds could we 4 00:00:45,660 --> 00:00:47,960 and 5 00:00:48,660 --> 00:00:51,739 a Public Health Building 6 00:00:52,739 --> 00:00:58,640 services West Human Services West building 7 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,860 as uh items C yes 8 00:01:05,100 --> 00:01:09,540 like motion me through the agenda as amended 9 00:01:08,100 --> 00:01:16,140 important built in support of conversation I lost 10 00:01:12,960 --> 00:01:19,159 in favor say yes yes yes no what are you getting 11 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:28,140 okay next item would be approval of the Linux from the May 9th 12 00:01:26,100 --> 00:01:30,799 I move that we approved the minutes from May 9th 13 00:01:31,100 --> 00:01:40,079 or movement supported conversation follow us in favor say yes yes yes yes 14 00:01:38,100 --> 00:01:47,040 no motion carry 15 00:01:42,900 --> 00:01:50,360 we are now at our first public comment for any public comment 16 00:01:50,939 --> 00:01:58,500 hello this is Callie Marshall from VM gear and Conservation District is coming 17 00:01:54,600 --> 00:02:02,640 to show bring you all our 2023 summer programming pamphlets we put together 18 00:02:00,180 --> 00:02:06,060 this year so these just have all of our dates of our upcoming summer events 19 00:02:04,500 --> 00:02:11,700 including our recycling down the centerfold as well as our annual meeting 20 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:15,360 that's coming up on July 26th and we'll be in South Haven at the flywheelers 21 00:02:13,260 --> 00:02:19,980 Museum this year to be receiving invitations for that shortly but then 22 00:02:18,239 --> 00:02:25,560 other things like hikes and paddles with the naturalists that we partner with 23 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:29,760 libraries on our healthy water week several options to get involved but just 24 00:02:27,900 --> 00:02:35,700 wanted to pass those out and then share we also are launching a interactive map 25 00:02:34,020 --> 00:02:40,319 on our website with the food farm and fun guide producers so that we'll be 26 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:44,400 able to search by what product you're looking for or what kind of Farm Stand 27 00:02:42,180 --> 00:02:48,680 or park and just be able to see that live update of the map on what you want 28 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:53,239 to see and find you guys 29 00:02:50,519 --> 00:02:53,239 thank 30 00:02:55,019 --> 00:02:57,019 you 31 00:03:00,260 --> 00:03:03,920 we'll do your next one 32 00:03:05,220 --> 00:03:12,480 all right number six presentation uh Julie 33 00:03:09,260 --> 00:03:17,640 good afternoon Commissioners Julie piak Michigan State University extension 34 00:03:14,879 --> 00:03:22,500 I am pleased to be here for uh to present our annual report for 2022 uh 35 00:03:20,700 --> 00:03:25,500 hopefully you received it in your packet and had an opportunity to look over that 36 00:03:24,239 --> 00:03:31,200 document uh again in my attempt to make things 37 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:35,459 brief tried to make it one page long but there were so many cool stories that 38 00:03:32,819 --> 00:03:39,720 went into three darn it but uh that's where we're at with that um I did give 39 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:43,799 you a hard copy at your places there um apologize for not being double-sided 40 00:03:41,519 --> 00:03:47,099 with a little happier snafu there but that's okay it looks nice on that glossy 41 00:03:45,659 --> 00:03:50,940 paper we're trying to use up in the office 42 00:03:47,879 --> 00:03:54,599 uh I wanted to uh draw your attention to a couple things once in my opening 43 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:58,620 paragraph there I talk about over a million dollars worth of grants that our 44 00:03:56,459 --> 00:04:03,180 district uh has brought in our Educators within District 13 alone over a million 45 00:04:01,319 --> 00:04:06,060 dollars and I'd love to get specific on that but I don't think I want to bore 46 00:04:04,620 --> 00:04:10,019 you with those details but I'm just pleased to see how many additional funds 47 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:13,819 our staff are bringing in to leverage programming here in the county and in my 48 00:04:11,879 --> 00:04:18,959 entire District the Seven Counties and my jurisdiction if you will another 49 00:04:16,979 --> 00:04:21,540 thing I wanted to highlight um there's a number there right 50 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:27,479 underneath my picture you can see a little bit further down 412 programs 51 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:33,479 including Van Buren County residents and to prove it to you I've printed out the 52 00:04:30,900 --> 00:04:38,820 412 programs that we actually identified Van Buren residents attending and so 53 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:42,300 um cut down this thing a little bit for you but just take a look at the breadth 54 00:04:40,500 --> 00:04:47,160 of programming that your residents here in the county are availing themselves of 55 00:04:45,419 --> 00:04:51,419 um through extension with me today I'll stop talking unless 56 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:57,479 there are questions but I have Janice zerbr children's our children and youth 57 00:04:54,900 --> 00:05:03,120 educator uh Christopher imler our consumer veterans liaison educator and 58 00:05:00,479 --> 00:05:07,440 Cheyenne Sloan our small fruit educator focusing on blueberries in the area to 59 00:05:05,280 --> 00:05:10,220 here and they'd each like to say a few words if you don't mind 60 00:05:13,759 --> 00:05:21,240 with the children youth Institute oh with the 4-H program last year was a 61 00:05:19,139 --> 00:05:26,100 great year for 4-H we were back face to face doing things in the schools still 62 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:30,960 have a lot of demand for the mindful me lessons of where we go in or I go in and 63 00:05:29,039 --> 00:05:35,280 read stories and teach the kids how to control their emotions or how to deal 64 00:05:32,639 --> 00:05:39,600 with their emotions so I did that and then some a highlight already from this 65 00:05:37,139 --> 00:05:43,620 year is we brought back a awareness days this is a partnership with the FFA 66 00:05:41,660 --> 00:05:47,160 agricultural resource program at the Technology Center 67 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:54,120 um the last time we did it was in 2019 so pre-covered and we had 766 kids at 68 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:58,440 this program plus an additional 150 adults so it was a great turnout over 69 00:05:56,340 --> 00:06:03,000 two days of impacting kids with education that was our highlight from 70 00:06:00,479 --> 00:06:07,740 this year so far hi everybody I think the last time uh I 71 00:06:05,759 --> 00:06:11,940 spoke in front of this group we had just secured approval an agreement to develop 72 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:15,780 the land on 801 Hazen Street so I just want to give you a quick update in 73 00:06:14,039 --> 00:06:18,960 addition to the information you have in your notes uh we've been able to 74 00:06:17,220 --> 00:06:23,520 assemble about fifteen thousand dollars uh Justin grant funding that has gone 75 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:27,360 into long-term improvements in the area if you haven't driven by we just put up 76 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:33,240 hanging baskets red white and blue very patriotic so go take a look but uh we've 77 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:37,919 had really smashing success uh all due to the outpouring of support from our 78 00:06:35,940 --> 00:06:43,020 local donors um besides the grant funding we've put 79 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:48,419 together somewhere around thirty thousand dollars in terms of materials 80 00:06:44,940 --> 00:06:51,900 plan material donated and the value of uh a couple hundred hours of Labor from 81 00:06:50,639 --> 00:06:55,800 the community um and so we've been open for 82 00:06:53,639 --> 00:06:59,759 programming since last year uh but I would like to extend a special 83 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:04,259 invitation for Memorial Day uh come by we'll have activities 84 00:07:01,380 --> 00:07:07,620 um set up for the community for all of our stakeholders so you can see the 85 00:07:05,639 --> 00:07:10,919 progress and kind of foreshadowing of the program that we're going to do I 86 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:17,100 want to give a special shout out to the County Sheriff's Office Deputy Marshall 87 00:07:13,979 --> 00:07:21,479 Crozier have been really helpful they've been coordinating help from the the work 88 00:07:19,020 --> 00:07:25,319 release crew there helping maintain the area around there helping build some of 89 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:29,960 the permanent features and a lot of that work would have been impossible without 90 00:07:26,699 --> 00:07:35,240 them so big shout out to the deputies uh and I look forward to seeing you all at 91 00:07:32,580 --> 00:07:35,240 this gardening season 92 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,960 hi so I'm trying to 93 00:07:40,740 --> 00:07:46,319 Finance this time last year for the first time so I've been here for a 94 00:07:43,979 --> 00:07:49,500 little over a year and a half now uh the big success about last year was we had 95 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:54,360 our first annual Blueberry field day which has been decades in the making 96 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:59,099 apparently it was very well attended and a huge hit and we're looking forward to 97 00:07:55,919 --> 00:08:05,580 having that again in September this year um and then another uh thing that we've 98 00:08:02,699 --> 00:08:10,919 been up to lately is last week we had a pollination Workshop uh in Grand 99 00:08:07,860 --> 00:08:14,580 Junction I believe and we had 20 people in attendance to come learn more about 100 00:08:12,780 --> 00:08:18,539 how you're supposed to take care of your bees and things like that when you're 101 00:08:16,620 --> 00:08:23,580 spraying and worrying about fungicides and just how to help properly take care 102 00:08:20,580 --> 00:08:27,300 of a hive and yeah that's what we've been up to lately so lots of fun 103 00:08:25,259 --> 00:08:32,580 blueberry things thank you any questions or anything any comments 104 00:08:30,060 --> 00:08:38,520 yeah I just want to say thank you again to Janice for all the years coming out 105 00:08:35,459 --> 00:08:44,940 to the library and different library and uh I think we had gotten that invitation 106 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:50,100 to the AG day which I went to and it was wonderful I thought that was amazing all 107 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:54,600 second graders from the county are invited we had eight school districts 108 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:59,880 that are out of 11. we have 37 classrooms attend in the two days if we 109 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:03,899 if we were to add on the other school districts we'd have to explain expand to 110 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:07,800 a third day because of the timing of the buses when certain schools can come and 111 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:13,320 when they have to leave we could not get all 11 school districts in it 112 00:09:10,140 --> 00:09:21,000 well that is fantastic and then Cheyenne thank you for helping my friend 113 00:09:17,820 --> 00:09:24,240 I think it's gonna be his he's taking over his 114 00:09:22,279 --> 00:09:28,680 grandfather's I think it was the second or third generation yeah generation 115 00:09:26,100 --> 00:09:31,980 blueberry farm it was really fun I had a lot of fun going and meeting him he has 116 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:37,260 an organic farm in Bangor and it was really cool you don't see a lot of 117 00:09:33,420 --> 00:09:43,080 organic farms so great thanks for veterans treatment Court we had one 118 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:47,760 person that worked a ton of hours over there 119 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:52,140 um right uh Chris Cannon and he I would be remiss if I didn't mention uh all the 120 00:09:50,100 --> 00:09:56,820 various projects he's worked on um improvements to uh some of the more 121 00:09:54,300 --> 00:10:01,260 permanent structures uh the barn uh that we have out there 122 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:05,040 um uh he made a ramp that's made it more accessible he's improved uh the shade 123 00:10:03,300 --> 00:10:10,620 structures out there he helped assemble the greenhouse Foundation 124 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:14,760 um patios and so he's been a really a tremendous help uh his feedback has been 125 00:10:12,839 --> 00:10:18,300 overwhelmingly positive he enjoys doing his his uh his uh service hours out 126 00:10:17,519 --> 00:10:24,779 there um he's you know he's just uh enormously 127 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:28,560 enormously beneficial to the program and um kudos to the the court for uh finding 128 00:10:27,300 --> 00:10:32,540 such a great candidate to connect us with 129 00:10:29,459 --> 00:10:38,640 yeah and that's what the garden sword yeah we were having a hard time finding 130 00:10:35,820 --> 00:10:42,740 something that Chris would do could do because he didn't want to work at the 131 00:10:40,500 --> 00:10:48,060 animal shelter and there were other projects that had been suggested by the 132 00:10:45,540 --> 00:10:52,140 court of the judge and none of them seemed to work so then I suggested that 133 00:10:49,860 --> 00:10:55,459 we try this yeah and 134 00:10:53,339 --> 00:11:00,240 voila yeah he was very willing to do yeah he's a 135 00:10:58,620 --> 00:11:05,040 great sense of initiative um he's brought up and completed uh 136 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:09,420 improvements that I didn't even consider and we've been able to rely on really 137 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:12,600 he's got a wealth of experience related to the work that he's doing out there 138 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:18,360 yeah foreign thank you thank you Chris what are the 139 00:11:15,660 --> 00:11:22,800 hours for Memorial Day uh so I'm there from nine to five officially and then I 140 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:26,100 generally volunteer in the evenings uh up until about eight it's when the deer 141 00:11:24,660 --> 00:11:30,959 come out so I like to be there to scare them away so they have a familiar face 142 00:11:27,959 --> 00:11:34,860 you know yeah uh let's set up till Sundown which uh will be changing pretty 143 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:38,459 soon here with the solstice and that's the program on Memorial Day is what I 144 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:42,079 was talking about correct okay yep thank you set up till Sundown thanks 145 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,959 I always had a friend 146 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:55,079 have a question all right well thank you for your time uh and so thank you for 147 00:11:53,100 --> 00:12:00,000 your support uh we couldn't do our work in the county without the County's uh 148 00:11:57,180 --> 00:12:02,000 support so very much appreciated thank you 149 00:12:10,260 --> 00:12:14,120 administrative repair scale 150 00:12:14,339 --> 00:12:23,040 okay the Brownfield Redevelopment of 30 at the reappointment of Zach Morris in 151 00:12:19,860 --> 00:12:29,220 this to be expedited thank you and Zach has already been on 152 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:35,160 the Redevelopment Authority in the past and 153 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:40,459 I moved it we reappoint him for the new date term term date of June 154 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:48,360 1st 2026 that's the expiration second 155 00:12:45,380 --> 00:12:54,000 supported conversation all those in favor say yes yes yes yes 156 00:12:50,540 --> 00:13:01,260 suppose no motion carried and then we went to be a white cake show 157 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:06,180 Howard who has also been on the board for quite a while 158 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:10,560 and I moved that she be reappointed also report 159 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:10,560 Ed conversation 160 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:17,959 all those in favor say yes yes suppose no 161 00:13:14,940 --> 00:13:17,959 motion carry 162 00:13:18,060 --> 00:13:25,399 here enough buildings and grounds hey I do a 163 00:13:22,500 --> 00:13:29,519 animal control repairs the 164 00:13:26,959 --> 00:13:34,700 state inspection that was done and so we very much needed repairs done we 165 00:13:32,420 --> 00:13:39,000 would include resurfacing employers and changing out 166 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:42,839 cages but John's going to present what his findings he's done homework and it 167 00:13:41,339 --> 00:13:47,639 looks like quite a good alternative to actually having to go in and 168 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:52,620 rebuild the cages good afternoon so since we met last 169 00:13:50,339 --> 00:13:56,459 couple things that I did is uh we took a look at uh the floor replacement doing 170 00:13:54,899 --> 00:14:01,680 some floor replacements and Painting came up with a number of 75 000 to do 171 00:13:59,519 --> 00:14:05,399 kind of a rehab to the facility lighting get things where they need to be the 172 00:14:03,420 --> 00:14:11,160 biggest issue we have out there is defensing the the cages themselves so 173 00:14:08,399 --> 00:14:14,940 one afternoon I found some cages on you know all Marketplace uh they're in 174 00:14:13,380 --> 00:14:19,320 Lowell Michigan they're actually coming out of a facility it's a Veterinary 175 00:14:16,680 --> 00:14:22,380 Clinic that is he's retiring so I got with Tony Evans from the sheriff's 176 00:14:20,519 --> 00:14:26,100 department that oversees animal control and also Kim the director out there we 177 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:30,480 jetted up there took a look at them they're probably five to seven years old 178 00:14:28,860 --> 00:14:34,380 they're all stainless steel the gentleman that has them now is has come 179 00:14:32,700 --> 00:14:39,360 back with a counter offer from his initial price his initial price was 2 180 00:14:36,660 --> 00:14:43,440 700 each for these kennels Tony looked it up they're like anywhere from sixty 181 00:14:41,579 --> 00:14:47,399 seven thousand dollars just for the kennel itself that you got to pay for 182 00:14:44,699 --> 00:14:52,680 the installation so what we'd like to do is to purchase 30 of these kettles which 183 00:14:49,980 --> 00:14:57,120 they have uh and then install out there in the in the in the facility we have 184 00:14:55,019 --> 00:15:00,660 now with the understanding of the future down the road they can be removed from 185 00:14:58,860 --> 00:15:03,839 that facility being stainless and then being installed in a new facility which 186 00:15:02,279 --> 00:15:07,260 would save the county a lot of money in the future so 187 00:15:05,579 --> 00:15:11,519 um what today is what I'm seeking is permission or kind of guidance on what 188 00:15:09,540 --> 00:15:15,240 we can negotiate with this with this vendor that has them of what we can 189 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,779 throw out there for a price to them kind of negotiate the purchase of these 190 00:15:16,500 --> 00:15:24,420 Kindles so do we need a motion for him to move 191 00:15:20,519 --> 00:15:24,420 ahead to negotiated 192 00:15:28,380 --> 00:15:37,980 although I would think of for the record they have a motion to authorize John to 193 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:43,560 negotiate up to a certain amount I think we we talked about 75 000 in the past so 194 00:15:41,100 --> 00:15:46,820 we'll give you the flexibility that you go up and do that 195 00:15:47,940 --> 00:15:49,940 um 196 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:59,279 perhaps most people probably don't have the time nor inclination to necessarily 197 00:15:56,519 --> 00:16:04,040 go through our commission notes but uh if I am on the other side 198 00:16:04,199 --> 00:16:09,600 I know a level that's been yeah 199 00:16:08,519 --> 00:16:13,920 yeah so uh 200 00:16:12,180 --> 00:16:16,500 typically we do these things in closed session 201 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:21,360 we're talking about bigger things than this yeah but 202 00:16:18,660 --> 00:16:25,620 I don't know how that works but it seems like in the past when we've enabled our 203 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:30,899 administrator or someone to negotiate we're not we're not necessarily making a 204 00:16:28,620 --> 00:16:35,940 public tap because that public cap is announcing to people who's talking to 205 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:40,620 this is what we're going to pay you and uh that's okay I suppose but 206 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,600 you know the more we pay for these kennels the less we have for everything 207 00:16:41,639 --> 00:16:47,600 else but it won't be in the minutes for two 208 00:16:44,100 --> 00:16:55,019 more weeks unless they're listening live yeah but listen to 75 000 also including 209 00:16:52,019 --> 00:16:59,100 other things the 75 000 was total cost of the the of the entire repair 210 00:16:57,060 --> 00:17:04,620 including light and everything else so that was the last cost you said 75 000 211 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:13,079 for the entire repair no no for each candle 2700 27.50 2750 is what he wanted 212 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:16,860 he came back with a price of 75 000 when I talked on the second day after we went 213 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:20,640 out and visited the site and then I told him that we I had to go 214 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:23,400 through the proper traded command to see which one direction we were going to go 215 00:17:22,020 --> 00:17:26,720 with this what's the vet's name okay 216 00:17:28,380 --> 00:17:34,260 I want to say it's Dave I don't have a complete file but I 217 00:17:31,860 --> 00:17:38,160 believe his name is David Lowell he owns two facilities there he's closing them 218 00:17:36,179 --> 00:17:41,940 both he's retiring yeah 219 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:47,720 so that so that figures are you out there he threw that after 75. oh he came 220 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:54,059 out with 75 yeah it strikes me as being high and the 221 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:59,220 reason why I say that is when we talk about uh collateral and things like that 222 00:17:56,460 --> 00:18:03,299 at the EGC board um 223 00:18:00,179 --> 00:18:08,880 10 cents on the dollars whatever we kind of end up so if a person had spent a 224 00:18:06,419 --> 00:18:13,740 hundred thousand dollars on equipment at auction you're going to get ten 225 00:18:10,620 --> 00:18:18,900 thousand maybe so this guy seems to me he's high he seems high tonight 226 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:23,220 I I think it ought to be more like six hundred dollars per unit I'm thinking 227 00:18:21,539 --> 00:18:27,780 when negotiations I'm thinking you know if we get them around 40 I think I think 228 00:18:25,799 --> 00:18:31,500 I think it'd be a good good sell to him you know he's not removing him we'd I'd 229 00:18:30,179 --> 00:18:35,220 get a crew up there to take him out of jail the jail crew no cost to us and 230 00:18:33,539 --> 00:18:38,760 then also he's not dealing with you know the little one or person you come get 231 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:42,299 one or two kettles it's a one shot for him 232 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:50,160 boom so what if we live the total being 75 233 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:54,960 it seems reasonable for us to as you suggested use that as the the 234 00:18:52,860 --> 00:18:59,520 total but there's a whole lot of other stuff going on besides the cost of these 235 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:02,700 things from this guy and that's where he's going to have to negotiate that's 236 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:07,500 that my overall cost for the entire repair I'm focused on 75 000. that's 237 00:19:06,059 --> 00:19:11,640 where my total cost and repair would want to be 238 00:19:09,419 --> 00:19:15,480 um out of negotiation I can get on these kennels the better it's for the account 239 00:19:13,500 --> 00:19:22,080 yes the more we can still do with that exactly with what we've allocated yep 240 00:19:19,679 --> 00:19:26,520 so how about if we give him the authorization to act on behalf of the 241 00:19:24,539 --> 00:19:31,880 county for the best and best price that he can negotiate yeah 242 00:19:33,360 --> 00:19:42,600 this is jobs I don't like 200 000. 243 00:19:38,059 --> 00:19:48,419 I'll be working for free yeah well it's very yeah it's very public I mean it's 244 00:19:45,179 --> 00:19:53,580 obvious we're looking at this price that 75 is the whole thing right yeah so he 245 00:19:51,660 --> 00:19:57,960 can negotiate a lesson price for the kennels that's you know 246 00:19:55,740 --> 00:20:04,580 to allow him to do that and you know trust his judgment I do what you said 247 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:04,580 you put an ALT two cost on it yeah 248 00:20:04,679 --> 00:20:13,280 actually right while the motion can be not to exceed 75 249 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,280 for the entire project right right 250 00:20:17,940 --> 00:20:28,160 so we have a motion in a second to authorize John 251 00:20:24,120 --> 00:20:28,160 the proceed attack with the project 252 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:38,419 75 000 dollars but then that to negotiate whatever is 253 00:20:34,679 --> 00:20:38,419 reasonable for the Kennels 254 00:20:38,460 --> 00:20:44,160 whatever that is okay 255 00:20:42,419 --> 00:20:49,320 sounds good yes we have a motion with a second found 256 00:20:46,679 --> 00:20:55,260 further conversation all those in favor say yes yes suppose 257 00:20:52,380 --> 00:20:59,760 no motion caring okay the next item is Donald Hanson 258 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:05,880 for the Commissioners for which just dealing with some signage issues 259 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:11,100 it's in process I know Rachel my staff support is getting some pricing yeah she 260 00:21:08,460 --> 00:21:14,460 sent the the font and or we're still working on it we're moving forward with 261 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:18,120 it yeah exclusive we're going to go to school with I think it's gonna be on the 262 00:21:15,780 --> 00:21:23,059 door yeah so if you look behind you where it says Board of Commissioners to 263 00:21:20,100 --> 00:21:23,059 agree 264 00:21:25,820 --> 00:21:32,039 motion was I think for Donald Hansen Board of commissioner's room right put 265 00:21:30,179 --> 00:21:35,880 that right on the door um this came you know across my desk 266 00:21:34,260 --> 00:21:39,960 when I first started I didn't know if you wanted if you want to back we can 267 00:21:38,340 --> 00:21:43,679 certainly do that but we would want some direction of where 268 00:21:41,940 --> 00:21:47,640 you would like to put them if you go above the door itself it kind of gets 269 00:21:45,419 --> 00:21:52,860 lost up there I'm not at this interior designer but whatever the pleasure of 270 00:21:49,740 --> 00:21:56,940 the I think it's more visible if it's on the door itself I agree it's a lot 271 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:01,440 cleaner too and so I had plaques and stuff hanging all over the walls I like 272 00:21:58,559 --> 00:22:07,200 that yeah me too yeah I'd say continue on with that 273 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,200 thought 274 00:22:08,299 --> 00:22:14,480 okay item C is a human services West building 275 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:20,880 um is in need of space for the upcoming 276 00:22:18,500 --> 00:22:25,559 nine-day early voting so Susan's going to help present on this one 277 00:22:23,580 --> 00:22:32,820 jump over here so I can see all of you that's the post in the way 278 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:40,320 so um as all of you know by now in 2022 proposal 2 passed 279 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:46,500 and it is multi-faceted changes on how we conduct our elections 280 00:22:43,919 --> 00:22:50,159 um but part of it that I want to talk to you about today and that bore you with 281 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:56,640 all the other stuff because we wouldn't be here or we would be here for another 282 00:22:52,740 --> 00:23:02,220 week is the early voting part so the proposal actually states that the 283 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:05,460 implementation of early voting is the responsibility of the local 284 00:23:03,659 --> 00:23:10,860 jurisdictions in the townships and the cities however 285 00:23:08,460 --> 00:23:17,340 the local jurisdictions do not have the resources to individually do this 286 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:22,919 in a letter that I sent to the local clerks back in April I had a meeting 287 00:23:21,120 --> 00:23:28,440 with them and brought down Christie Dugan from the Bureau of Elections and 288 00:23:25,740 --> 00:23:35,940 we kind of went over all of the changes that this proposal is going to affect 289 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:42,179 and I took a poll afterwards I was like okay how do you guys want to proceed 290 00:23:37,679 --> 00:23:47,820 with this you can all do it individually um we can possibly look at doing 291 00:23:45,179 --> 00:23:53,760 quadrants four quadrants within the county of having voting centers for the 292 00:23:50,940 --> 00:23:58,500 early voting or we can go with one centrally located 293 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:05,960 um Center so I have spent hours and hours running 294 00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:11,580 numbers and looking at different things and basically what I've come up with is 295 00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:16,679 that I am more than willing to participate in the process with the 296 00:24:13,740 --> 00:24:21,539 local clerks and organize with their assistants one county-wide early voting 297 00:24:20,159 --> 00:24:26,520 site um I know that with because of the fact 298 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:30,840 that I program our elections I don't farm that out it saves the county an 299 00:24:28,679 --> 00:24:37,919 immense amount of money for me to do that I am not able to organize multiple 300 00:24:35,100 --> 00:24:43,620 voting sites that has to be off the table 301 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:51,600 so with the offer to do one county-wide voting site for the early voting 302 00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:56,820 um I kind of talked with John and John um and I had an idea about the empty 303 00:24:53,880 --> 00:25:04,020 building over by the fairgrounds Human Services building and so we took a field 304 00:25:00,179 --> 00:25:12,000 trip over there on Monday and looked at it there is a large room 305 00:25:07,559 --> 00:25:16,320 that would work for it with um some changes to it and I will let 306 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:20,880 John go over some of those changes there's partitions in there that will 307 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:25,320 all have to be removed and some other things 308 00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:30,299 um but it's big enough it has ample parking it's literally in the middle of 309 00:25:28,260 --> 00:25:36,179 the county um it also has a room right off of the 310 00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:40,679 large room that uh would be a secure location for all of the election 311 00:25:38,039 --> 00:25:45,840 equipment that will have to be stored there for the nine days 312 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:50,159 the Bureau of Elections as they've gone through and talked to us at our 313 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:54,360 conferences and different meetings and stuff some of the suggestions that 314 00:25:52,500 --> 00:25:58,799 they're offering if you're doing central locations is uh you know we know 315 00:25:57,120 --> 00:26:03,419 churches are out we can't do that because you've got two weekends well you 316 00:26:01,799 --> 00:26:06,480 can't have voters coming in on two Sundays when they're trying to hold 317 00:26:05,279 --> 00:26:11,340 church service we can't really do anything as schools 318 00:26:09,179 --> 00:26:16,140 anymore because it's just not the society we live in anymore 319 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:20,400 um so a lot of them are going with County facilities the other idea is to 320 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:26,400 rent a storefront you know the thought well there's lots of empty storefronts 321 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:31,020 yes there are but then if somebody buys that building or that storefront or 322 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:36,779 rents it you're changing location every time and you are going to confuse the 323 00:26:33,659 --> 00:26:41,640 veggies out of your voters um and you're required to notify voters 324 00:26:39,059 --> 00:26:47,039 where this early voting sites are going to be so if we have one county-wide 325 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:52,140 location and it remains that same location all the time is going to be 326 00:26:50,100 --> 00:26:57,299 beneficial for everybody the other thought is if we do make some 327 00:26:54,900 --> 00:27:03,120 changes to that room over there at that building it can also be used by the 328 00:27:00,299 --> 00:27:07,440 county for other items you know if you guys have a big meeting or you want to 329 00:27:05,100 --> 00:27:12,120 have a retreat over there there's been talk before in these meetings about 330 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:18,179 setting something up like but the ISD has with you know all of the uh 331 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:22,380 different technology capabilities I'm not asking for that part of it I don't 332 00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:25,340 need that part of it I just need the location so 333 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:31,020 um that's basically what I'm here for 334 00:27:29,279 --> 00:27:37,500 um I wanted to bring this to you today and kind of get your thoughts on it I 335 00:27:34,740 --> 00:27:42,440 um plan on meeting with the supervisors group on Thursday so I did not want to 336 00:27:40,020 --> 00:27:48,299 talk to them before I talk to you guys and just get a feel if you guys think 337 00:27:45,059 --> 00:27:50,940 this is uh feasible or not um 338 00:27:48,919 --> 00:27:57,659 we can't charge the townships to do the 339 00:27:54,360 --> 00:28:02,640 renovations that might need to be done um but what my vision is for this voting 340 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:06,960 Center is and as of right now the vast majority 341 00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:14,100 are on board that they want to join this I have a couple of locations that are 342 00:28:10,919 --> 00:28:20,640 indicating that they want to conduct their own but I I have no doubt that 343 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:26,700 they will readily change their mind just as an example with the uh if they choke 344 00:28:23,460 --> 00:28:32,220 if they choose to do it themselves it would cost them almost five thousand 345 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:38,039 three hundred dollars for labor for their election inspectors per election 346 00:28:35,940 --> 00:28:42,240 it's going to cost them seven thousand dollars to buy a new tabulator they 347 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:47,159 cannot use the tabulator that they currently have because it has to be 348 00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:53,340 under security after their public accuracy test up until the election and 349 00:28:50,279 --> 00:28:57,779 that time frame doesn't coexist with this nine days of early voting 350 00:28:55,860 --> 00:29:01,559 um so they've got um you know fifty three hundred dollars 351 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:06,960 just in labor a seven thousand dollar tabulator and icx that they're updating 352 00:29:04,919 --> 00:29:11,520 that right now so I'm guessing that's going to be twenty five hundred dollars 353 00:29:08,900 --> 00:29:16,260 so next year we will have three elections that require this early voting 354 00:29:13,799 --> 00:29:22,380 and the early voting is only required for if there's a state or federal 355 00:29:18,419 --> 00:29:27,240 election or office in that election so it's only going to be on even years 356 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:30,960 if unless there's a special election like 357 00:29:29,220 --> 00:29:37,080 when there was redistricting or if you have an instance where you have 358 00:29:33,059 --> 00:29:40,799 something happen to uh say a senator or something and you have to have an 359 00:29:38,399 --> 00:29:45,360 election to fill that seat um so in odd years you would probably 360 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:49,320 not have to do it but in your presidential years you've got three 361 00:29:46,860 --> 00:29:56,039 elections in those years so next year's presidential so if they were to run it 362 00:29:52,740 --> 00:30:00,600 themselves just in labor with three election workers which is the minimum 363 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:04,399 that you have to have they would spend fifteen thousand seven hundred and 364 00:30:02,460 --> 00:30:10,679 ninety five dollars on just wages for their election workers 365 00:30:08,220 --> 00:30:16,380 if we have this early voting site and everybody comes together I can run it 366 00:30:13,260 --> 00:30:21,899 with four election inspectors and that would end up costing each jurisdiction 367 00:30:18,899 --> 00:30:25,860 nine hundred and thirty nine dollars so I can't imagine if they're good stewards 368 00:30:23,820 --> 00:30:30,059 of their tax dollars that they will choose to go it alone but I could be 369 00:30:28,020 --> 00:30:33,059 wrong and it's not my decision it is their decision 370 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:37,679 um but that's why I'm offering this that's why I'd like to do this because 371 00:30:35,159 --> 00:30:42,840 we're all taxpayers we all want to see our tax dollars you know spent the best 372 00:30:40,380 --> 00:30:47,760 way that they can be and again I do think that eventually it will help the 373 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:53,340 county giving the giving the county another resource another room to use 374 00:30:50,700 --> 00:30:58,080 for different things training um I you know if I had the tables and 375 00:30:55,380 --> 00:31:05,279 chairs I have to do training for 400 election inspectors every other year and 376 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:09,360 uh I'm at the ISD for nine days um you know if we have this available 377 00:31:06,779 --> 00:31:13,440 and we have the you know uh enough tables and chairs I could do my training 378 00:31:11,340 --> 00:31:17,520 at that location and I'm sure there's other offices that could use the area as 379 00:31:16,380 --> 00:31:22,679 well so 380 00:31:19,500 --> 00:31:26,880 um in my budget I just to give you a heads up for the equipment this is 381 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:30,720 separate from the building but for the equipment my ask and my budget for 382 00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:37,320 Capital Improvements is going to be about twenty five thousand dollars and 383 00:31:34,020 --> 00:31:43,679 that's to buy new tabulators new icx's and everything I would need to set that 384 00:31:39,659 --> 00:31:48,360 up my again my vision is the cost of the security guard that 385 00:31:46,620 --> 00:31:54,720 would be there which I've already spoken with uh Dan and I can have a Reserve 386 00:31:52,380 --> 00:32:01,799 officer there for the hours that were open at a cost of only twenty dollars 387 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:07,080 um an hour once you divide that up um that's going to cost each 388 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:11,039 jurisdiction 74 dollars so um doing my best that I can to keep 389 00:32:09,059 --> 00:32:13,080 their costs down um 390 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:17,340 but of course they're going to be involved in this too because technically 391 00:32:14,580 --> 00:32:20,880 it is their responsibility not mine to set up this early voting 392 00:32:19,620 --> 00:32:27,659 um so along with that what I would do is I 393 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:33,299 would charge them a rent fee for the equipment after we purchased it 394 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:39,320 up front and then there would be a rent fee for the location and that rent fee 395 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:43,679 would cover the cost of the utilities because uh next year you'll have two 396 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:47,820 elections that you're going to have to heat the building one election in August 397 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:52,620 you're going to have to have AC running you're going to have to have your lights 398 00:32:49,799 --> 00:32:57,720 going so there's you know costs at the county would incur that they would need 399 00:32:54,840 --> 00:33:03,120 to pay back to us and then instead of them having to buy the equipment I would 400 00:33:00,179 --> 00:33:10,260 buy it up front and then rent that to them and So eventually we would recoup 401 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:15,539 it would we recoup all of it next year in one year no 402 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:20,159 um at the initial cost it will be close but it would not recoup at all in the 403 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:24,419 first year but it will eventually and then with that I guess John will 404 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:30,720 talk about what he thinks needs to be done with that uh room and the cost 405 00:33:28,140 --> 00:33:34,500 so once we entered in the building it is it's a good facility uh it's got great 406 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:37,620 bones to it so you know when everything's there it's just there's one 407 00:33:36,059 --> 00:33:42,000 big meeting room that's got dividers in it where it was like built-in cubicles 408 00:33:39,179 --> 00:33:45,179 so we established their non-supporting walls they've got columns in there and 409 00:33:43,860 --> 00:33:48,779 then they've got walls built off the columns so to come in and do a demo on 410 00:33:47,340 --> 00:33:53,039 the support you know on the sport walls will remain the stationary walls we 411 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:56,100 removed then we got some drywall you know estimated costs I'm looking at 412 00:33:54,480 --> 00:34:00,179 probably ten thousand dollars the biggest portion would be the carpet so 413 00:33:58,140 --> 00:34:05,120 we got some lighting some HVAC issues but all in all we're like ten thousand 414 00:34:02,220 --> 00:34:05,120 dollars on the repairs 415 00:34:11,720 --> 00:34:15,919 it's in the same building but next door 416 00:34:17,899 --> 00:34:23,760 even it would have a different entrance yes yeah main entrance it has two ends 417 00:34:22,919 --> 00:34:27,179 you want to have a front entrance anywhere entrance and there's adequate 418 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:32,220 parking there and two of the Bureau of Elections the 419 00:34:29,700 --> 00:34:37,379 way that they suggest that you set up a pulley location it's in one door now a 420 00:34:34,740 --> 00:34:42,060 different door and there are two doors in that large room so it can be set up 421 00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:44,820 perfectly according to the recommendation of the Bureau of 422 00:34:43,500 --> 00:34:47,820 Elections foreign 423 00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:58,020 it really has everything that they require for a location 424 00:34:55,740 --> 00:35:01,680 great job on all that you got a question though so he says for early voting does 425 00:35:00,119 --> 00:35:05,220 that mean it will be open on Election Day also or on Election Day everybody 426 00:35:03,420 --> 00:35:08,180 has to go to their regular one they have to go to the regular one 427 00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:15,000 or one day before the election so there's no early voting the day before 428 00:35:12,780 --> 00:35:20,599 the election or on election of course election day here at your regular 429 00:35:16,980 --> 00:35:20,599 facility all right thanks 430 00:35:21,839 --> 00:35:28,260 are you gonna have to reissue once you establish the precinct we have to 431 00:35:25,619 --> 00:35:32,220 reissue voting no because it's just for early voting okay it's our regular 432 00:35:30,119 --> 00:35:35,420 polling location will be there regular where they've always been that's not 433 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:39,839 changing notify the voters I don't they don't 434 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,900 have that figured out yet there's a lot of stuff that the state doesn't have 435 00:35:41,220 --> 00:35:45,720 figured out yet um 436 00:35:43,980 --> 00:35:50,040 but I think I don't know if we'll have to send 437 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:53,940 everybody a letter which I'm hoping or a postcard I hope we don't have to do that 438 00:35:51,720 --> 00:36:00,900 because that's a huge expense that will be on the uh townships not on us 439 00:35:57,540 --> 00:36:06,020 um but I'm hoping Publications in the different newspapers in the long run 440 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,020 that would be cheaper 441 00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:13,079 I want to applaud Applause for going the extra mile here 442 00:36:10,140 --> 00:36:18,119 because the best clerks are the ones who who actually assisted and help the local 443 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:22,200 clerks so don't leave them out there hanging because 444 00:36:19,859 --> 00:36:26,640 by rights you could just say hey it's up to you but as she explained the cost 445 00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:30,839 would be so prohibitive for all the locals to do it themselves so we do have 446 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:35,700 a neighbor to the north of us who has said 447 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:39,320 the Constitutional Amendment does not include me and I'm not touching it 448 00:36:42,119 --> 00:36:48,960 I think we're all in the same boat we're all taxpayers so 449 00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:54,000 and this will provide some when you you've got to run it what eight 450 00:36:50,820 --> 00:37:00,240 to eight or it just says eight hours it doesn't designate what hours are 451 00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:05,339 um I I think the thought would be to maybe you know 452 00:37:02,700 --> 00:37:09,900 use some different hours maybe one night or two nights of evening hours so that 453 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:14,339 you could yeah it does include the two weekends the two Saturday and Sundays 454 00:37:12,180 --> 00:37:19,260 before the election I think those will be your busiest days and if we have an 455 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:24,540 evening a couple evenings that they can come in and I'm hoping to put together 456 00:37:21,420 --> 00:37:27,780 my own team of election inspectors and they'll be trained just a little bit 457 00:37:25,859 --> 00:37:33,420 different than the regular election inspectors that you'll see at your 458 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:35,960 election day polling places Network 459 00:37:37,380 --> 00:37:46,800 I do but I haven't been gone oh well I I was just 460 00:37:42,839 --> 00:37:54,060 I think this is a great way to to uh 461 00:37:48,300 --> 00:37:54,060 handle this whole nine days plus effects 462 00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:04,040 um I was just wondering for music foreign elections but just to 463 00:38:02,220 --> 00:38:12,420 cover all of them I don't think that you're gonna have any 464 00:38:07,820 --> 00:38:15,660 one day that's going to be overly busy um I you know as I said I think the 465 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:21,480 weekends and any evenings that you're open would probably be the busiest but 466 00:38:19,260 --> 00:38:26,339 um even a school election a lot of people run that with only three election 467 00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:30,720 inspectors okay so um they say in other states that this 468 00:38:28,980 --> 00:38:34,440 has been established for quite a while you're looking at thirds 469 00:38:32,820 --> 00:38:38,760 a third of the people are doing early voting a third of the people are doing 470 00:38:36,180 --> 00:38:45,119 AV and a third of the people are voting on Election Day so if you if it does end 471 00:38:41,700 --> 00:38:51,240 up being 30 percent you know that's over nine days so you're not I don't and yes 472 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:55,740 it would be the whole County but I still don't anticipate there being like this 473 00:38:52,859 --> 00:38:59,099 big long line and if there is then we'll learn our lesson and we'll have to 474 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:04,619 increase how many what we're doing there it will all be a learning experience all 475 00:39:02,339 --> 00:39:08,880 right thank you so 476 00:39:06,060 --> 00:39:13,020 um The Proposal just to refresh my memory it requires those nine days of 477 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:18,180 early voting yes yes and but there's there's no funding mechanisms 478 00:39:15,020 --> 00:39:21,000 there's talk but that's what it is at this point is 479 00:39:19,980 --> 00:39:26,099 talk what they came out with a guesstimate I 480 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:31,980 guess it was about a month ago 60 days ago something like 481 00:39:28,619 --> 00:39:36,240 that and what they have put together the cost for 482 00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:42,560 um the first year of implementing proposal two is 483 00:39:38,599 --> 00:39:42,560 177 million dollars 484 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:49,099 but that's what we the people voted for so we shall do it 485 00:39:51,300 --> 00:40:00,320 and regardless of whether is an unfunded mandate so to speak with 486 00:39:57,060 --> 00:40:04,740 her something else comes from the state yeah I mean it's it's part of the state 487 00:40:02,940 --> 00:40:08,880 constitution now we have no choice it's just how we accomplish it there have 488 00:40:07,380 --> 00:40:13,500 there have been a lot of times so Paul that this the state has been very 489 00:40:10,859 --> 00:40:17,220 generous with yes with funds when we've gotten voting changes yeah like um all 490 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:24,200 of our election equipment right now was paid for so so and then any idea why 491 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:27,960 that one day prior was because there's so many things that the 492 00:40:26,339 --> 00:40:30,079 clerks have to do to prepare for the election 493 00:40:35,660 --> 00:40:41,880 s sure um 494 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:46,079 a couple things strike me and as first I understand that this will be the first 495 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:50,760 time and so we really don't know what the 496 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:55,020 long-term effect is going to be some things across my mind is why do I have 497 00:40:53,160 --> 00:41:00,300 to drive down I want to stay in south I mean who knows 498 00:40:58,079 --> 00:41:05,579 what we're going to see uh you know going forward after this assembled 499 00:41:02,839 --> 00:41:08,820 with that said so it's a little bit of the unknown 500 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:14,760 and then the other thing that really bugs me is I thought 501 00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:19,859 no unfunded mandate this is a mandate where's the funding 502 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:23,339 you know that really bothers me and not so much for the county but for the local 503 00:41:21,900 --> 00:41:28,859 humans they're getting stuck again that's why 504 00:41:25,940 --> 00:41:34,680 you know these other laws have passed heavily Etc to stop that kind of crap 505 00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:39,540 and here we are it's going on and I know they're funding part of it like another 506 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:45,420 part of The Proposal was um the um postage 507 00:41:42,060 --> 00:41:53,280 they now have to the townships have to pay the postage to send the ballot 508 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:56,880 um and for have it prepaid for the voter to send the ballot back 509 00:41:55,320 --> 00:42:00,540 so I could get into a whole bunch of things 510 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:05,579 but I won't because again we don't have enough time but they they changed it it 511 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:10,020 used to be you could be put on a um permanent voter list okay and that 512 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:15,480 permanent voter list meant that you would get an application sent to you 513 00:42:12,780 --> 00:42:19,500 automatically for every election and then you would fill that out return 514 00:42:17,579 --> 00:42:23,700 it to your Clerk and once they received that back they would send you their 515 00:42:20,820 --> 00:42:30,420 ballot okay so now with this new what changed with proposal two is that it's a 516 00:42:27,420 --> 00:42:36,119 permanent ballot list now so all you have to do is one time say I want to be 517 00:42:33,660 --> 00:42:40,500 on there and now they're sending you an actual ballot 518 00:42:37,740 --> 00:42:45,420 and they're also including an envelope with Prepaid postage to come back so if 519 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:49,980 that person doesn't open it and they didn't want it for that election it 520 00:42:48,060 --> 00:42:53,579 doesn't matter the cost is still being sent so you're going to increase your 521 00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:58,560 cost of the number of ballots that you have to buy you're going to increase the 522 00:42:55,740 --> 00:43:02,339 cost of postage um as if nobody has figured it out by 523 00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:06,000 now I'm not a fan of what happened what I'm supposed to do 524 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:08,640 but you know it is what it is and we have to work with it and we have to 525 00:43:07,380 --> 00:43:13,560 implement it um but as far as the unfunded mandate 526 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:18,540 they are working on um 527 00:43:14,579 --> 00:43:22,560 a process to reimburse for the postage um they're going through the um 528 00:43:20,339 --> 00:43:27,240 federally they're doing that getting it all set up and uh 529 00:43:24,780 --> 00:43:30,900 envelopes with Prepaid postage on it and for this may election we just had they 530 00:43:29,339 --> 00:43:35,520 have to send it to the state to get reimbursed for that so there are 531 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:39,780 portions of it and like I said there is some talk right now in Appropriations 532 00:43:37,619 --> 00:43:45,359 but I don't know where it's going to go the last legislative meeting that we had 533 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:52,740 well last week we had a legislative lunch in up in Lansing and um nothing's 534 00:43:48,839 --> 00:43:57,420 been decided yet or guaranteed I'm feeling on the space that we're 535 00:43:54,660 --> 00:44:02,220 talking about is that that's premium space 536 00:43:58,859 --> 00:44:06,119 that's above ground we own it it you know checks a lot of boxes as being some 537 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:10,859 really nice space something like this it's only going to 538 00:44:07,980 --> 00:44:15,420 be used for nine days three times next year and not used at all in odd years I 539 00:44:13,980 --> 00:44:21,180 don't want to spend a lot of money on that I I would thank myself this would 540 00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:25,940 be an ideal situation to put where the Friend of the Court used to be 541 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,940 um 542 00:44:28,220 --> 00:44:38,339 that's the logistics of you know rather than it's not then take 543 00:44:34,140 --> 00:44:42,540 premium space for something that is an ideal application for something that 544 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:48,060 could go on a basis because you're not down there you know all year long you're 545 00:44:45,420 --> 00:44:53,220 down there for nine days at a time so to me just a couple of considerations 546 00:44:51,359 --> 00:44:58,920 though this is this is a space that County already owns and it's just 547 00:44:55,740 --> 00:45:01,859 where if if for a minimal amount I think John was talking about maybe ten 548 00:45:00,420 --> 00:45:06,119 thousand dollars you're actually going to equip the county with a very nice 549 00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:10,440 facility that as Susie said she would not have to start what in February or 550 00:45:08,940 --> 00:45:15,540 March getting your dates for your summer training or something comes up that we 551 00:45:13,380 --> 00:45:21,240 want to have strategic planning meetings we don't have to we could have that be 552 00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:24,720 our new ISD yeah but why do we need a new ISD we already have one but I'm just 553 00:45:23,220 --> 00:45:30,420 saying it's County property that's sitting there just we can do the 554 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:34,980 demolition class so if we do this then somebody comes along 555 00:45:32,540 --> 00:45:40,920 conservation I mean somebody comes along and wants to rent that space which has 556 00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:43,980 happened and well you know these dying days and these none knows so you kill 557 00:45:42,599 --> 00:45:47,760 your deal I would put it in the basement I would 558 00:45:46,140 --> 00:45:52,380 put it right here in the basement with free bed space up especially we don't 559 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:56,280 know what's going to happen you know as far as long term is concerned well long 560 00:45:54,480 --> 00:46:00,000 term this is this doesn't change unless there's another you would have to have a 561 00:45:58,079 --> 00:46:07,319 constitutional amendment for this to change and I would also offer that 562 00:46:03,060 --> 00:46:11,520 all of us not centrally located and we are going to get Kickback on the first 563 00:46:09,839 --> 00:46:15,720 statement that you made this as well I live in South Haven why do I have to 564 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:22,980 drive to Hartford well so if we do this and we try to you know 565 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:27,000 centrally locate it that's going to be better than to say that you're catering 566 00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:31,619 only to the east side of the county additionally you're gonna 567 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:36,119 you know increase the foot traffic into this building 568 00:46:33,839 --> 00:46:39,480 um you know I I don't work in this building so I don't really want to 569 00:46:37,500 --> 00:46:44,280 comment on that of what that may or may not affect but it would obviously affect 570 00:46:42,599 --> 00:46:49,680 it because you know and then there's going to be parking issues 571 00:46:47,220 --> 00:46:53,700 um you know if we have a jury trial going during those nine days there's not 572 00:46:52,200 --> 00:47:00,000 going to be a place for these people to park anywhere 573 00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:03,900 um and you know the answer the best one that we can give to people about I don't 574 00:47:02,339 --> 00:47:09,420 want to have to drive to a different location is you know you don't have to 575 00:47:07,140 --> 00:47:13,980 you have other options you can vote from home you can do an AV 576 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:18,839 um you can go to your local polling location on Election Day so you know 577 00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:22,500 they have three options they have more options now than that you know than 578 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:27,839 they've ever had um but it you know and like I said I I'm 579 00:47:24,780 --> 00:47:32,579 not asking for this just for me I My Hope Is that it's available for other 580 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:38,579 County functions um you know if the facility did end up 581 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:42,780 getting lease out to somebody whoever you know I I don't know is there a 582 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:48,780 possibility that that could be part of the lease that you know we need this for 583 00:47:46,859 --> 00:47:52,079 um you know this many days to accommodate what's in the Michigan 584 00:47:50,099 --> 00:47:57,240 Constitution um if not then at that point I I suppose 585 00:47:54,720 --> 00:48:03,660 we would have to look at a different option anything that we do decide to do 586 00:48:00,839 --> 00:48:09,480 if we decide to do one central location we do have to have per the Constitution 587 00:48:06,540 --> 00:48:13,500 now we have to enter into a contract with the local jurisdictions the 588 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,839 contract would run for two years at a time 589 00:48:14,220 --> 00:48:20,099 so if we were in the middle of a contract and something you know if if we 590 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:26,119 were able to do this and something came up we would have to be able to fulfill 591 00:48:22,140 --> 00:48:26,119 that contract for the full two years 592 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:33,660 well two comments number one and it's more of a generalized comment because I 593 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:36,980 hear this so often regarding so many topics regarding this County 594 00:48:37,140 --> 00:48:44,760 there's a geographic center and there is a population Center 595 00:48:42,599 --> 00:48:48,480 and we are so hyper focused on geographic center 596 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:51,660 that for example if I'm looking at the United 597 00:48:50,099 --> 00:48:56,760 States and I remember seeing this map recently the geographic center of the 598 00:48:54,480 --> 00:49:01,020 lower 48 is somewhere in pretty close to Iowa 599 00:48:57,660 --> 00:49:06,780 the population Center shifts probably a good thousand eight hundred miles 600 00:49:04,319 --> 00:49:11,040 so can we all relax about this it's got to be right in the middle of the county 601 00:49:07,740 --> 00:49:15,180 thing all the time because that helps a much smaller number of individuals 602 00:49:12,660 --> 00:49:19,440 travel to that location while a greater number of individuals now have to travel 603 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:24,480 further to accomplish the same goal because it's an educated guess but 604 00:49:22,859 --> 00:49:28,020 more than half the County's population is 605 00:49:25,980 --> 00:49:33,599 within about or 606 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:36,079 uh conscious Hartford is the center of the universe 607 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:42,960 that ship from Iowa goes all the way to Hartford for the United States but not 608 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:47,220 for the county so so that's just a philosophical thing 609 00:49:45,180 --> 00:49:53,460 sure let's relax about this need to be in the center for all every service that 610 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:57,960 is illogical if we're worried about the inconvenience to our citizens who are by 611 00:49:55,859 --> 00:50:02,640 and large on the east side of the county number two 612 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:05,339 um to your point um 613 00:50:03,319 --> 00:50:11,339 regarding this thing she's talking about the contract for two 614 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:16,380 years in the event that something especially 615 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:21,180 an agency or or whatever you utilizing that facility 616 00:50:18,119 --> 00:50:24,839 um if that were prohibitive because of those nine days in the future we could 617 00:50:22,859 --> 00:50:29,280 look at it we can look at it I mean a change could 618 00:50:26,940 --> 00:50:34,980 be made and you know any changes difficult and and also the 25 that I 619 00:50:33,060 --> 00:50:40,680 talked about for equipment that's an expense no matter where it's located so 620 00:50:37,980 --> 00:50:43,980 um you know that's there and as far as you know 621 00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:49,680 this is a statement of you know we don't need to you know the ISD thing I mean as 622 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:56,099 Tina stated I literally am in December and January trying to book 623 00:50:53,460 --> 00:51:01,140 nine consecutive days or close they're in because I have 624 00:50:57,839 --> 00:51:07,380 um a very small time window that I'm required to train those 400 people and 625 00:51:04,740 --> 00:51:13,200 get them certified for an election I I think it's it's less than a three-week 626 00:51:09,540 --> 00:51:17,640 time period and they get hooked up so fast over there you know a lot of people 627 00:51:15,599 --> 00:51:23,940 just have standing meetings month after month after month so um that does pose a 628 00:51:21,420 --> 00:51:30,839 little bit of difficulty as well I guess what I would like to see is a 629 00:51:27,420 --> 00:51:35,099 further investigation done on the space that we have in this building 630 00:51:33,059 --> 00:51:39,720 you know before we automatically take our premium space 631 00:51:37,079 --> 00:51:43,200 I know there's nobody in there now but certainly if we put something like this 632 00:51:41,579 --> 00:51:47,240 in there that's going to grow yeah the most Runners from being interested 633 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:54,540 so we already have the space we cleaned it out this is a perfect below ground 634 00:51:52,260 --> 00:52:00,480 application you're not expecting people to work there every day of the week 635 00:51:57,300 --> 00:52:05,579 is storage and then three three of those three nine day things you set her up and 636 00:52:03,180 --> 00:52:08,819 use it for early voting act distorted she goes 637 00:52:06,660 --> 00:52:15,480 through this place what do you mean back to storage I mean I need uh to set up uh 638 00:52:12,180 --> 00:52:21,359 a polling location for nine days to accommodate voters from all 22 639 00:52:17,940 --> 00:52:27,059 jurisdictions I mean I can't be put in a small a real small area I'm going to 640 00:52:23,940 --> 00:52:31,680 need at least a big enough area at least this room oh yeah yeah but I mean if 641 00:52:30,059 --> 00:52:38,160 because I know there's been talk about it being utilized for storage I I just 642 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:40,859 don't see how storage and having that of you know moving stuff back and forth 643 00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:46,559 doesn't but again your guys's call 644 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:51,660 yeah I offer another perspective on this with with some basic some simple 645 00:52:49,079 --> 00:52:55,800 updating and renovation maybe it becomes a more attractive space you know the 646 00:52:54,119 --> 00:53:01,020 notion of it being prohibitive because there's a nine-day Pay Here's a nine day 647 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,559 obstacle but 648 00:53:03,660 --> 00:53:11,000 it becomes a more attractive space or the possibility of what you've 649 00:53:08,579 --> 00:53:15,119 suggested there is always the option too to go 650 00:53:13,380 --> 00:53:18,359 back to the townships and say to them you know it's not feasible for the 651 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:23,700 county you guys are going to have to figure it out for yourselves 652 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:29,220 I mean I don't think that's a good solution I mean we do need to take and I 653 00:53:27,059 --> 00:53:33,540 applaud you for taking a leadership position on this because sometimes 654 00:53:31,619 --> 00:53:38,339 regardless of what the law says the county should do it and I think this is 655 00:53:35,700 --> 00:53:42,240 one of those cases it's just you know I'm just thinking this is a good 656 00:53:39,780 --> 00:53:45,599 basement application and that's all you know for a basement that we just 657 00:53:43,859 --> 00:53:49,260 cleaned out because we want to get people out of there 658 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:54,359 so and it's right here and we've got security right here you're right here 659 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:58,260 automatically got 88 of the elevator yeah it's the elevator 660 00:53:56,099 --> 00:54:02,640 yeah yeah um my office and my staff are not 661 00:54:00,660 --> 00:54:06,240 going to be the ones working right the polling location 662 00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:09,599 so so can you tell me 663 00:54:09,059 --> 00:54:16,079 um why you would 664 00:54:11,579 --> 00:54:23,599 prefer the location in Hartford you go over that again because of the where 665 00:54:18,180 --> 00:54:29,640 it's located and then a larger space in a sample space yes it's definitely 666 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:34,500 ample space there's ample parking I think parking can be a very big issue 667 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:39,000 especially if there's a jury trial we've all heard Susan zeitervine and the 668 00:54:36,839 --> 00:54:42,720 judges in here talking about how many jury trials we have coming up in the 669 00:54:40,859 --> 00:54:46,200 next couple of years um if you've got a jury trial they're 670 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:49,260 not going to find any place to park the employees can't even find a place to 671 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:54,300 park um I I know Paul disagrees with me but 672 00:54:52,559 --> 00:54:57,420 I'm going to go back to the geographical center 673 00:54:55,559 --> 00:55:03,300 um I realize there's more population in the Antwerp Township but you still have 674 00:55:01,380 --> 00:55:06,960 to drive from South Haven if you choose to vote so coming from area with less 675 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:09,559 population I agree it needs to be geographical 676 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:14,720 you're not forcing anyone to do early 677 00:55:14,780 --> 00:55:21,540 and there's always the absentee voting that they can do 678 00:55:19,500 --> 00:55:26,280 so they have they have the options it's just the law says we now have to to make 679 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:30,839 the accommodation so this can happen and I think this is a good solution and the 680 00:55:28,079 --> 00:55:35,880 other thing too with um if you I don't have it on me I can pull it up if you 681 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:40,020 wanted me to but the um recommendation from the Bureau of Elections for a 682 00:55:37,740 --> 00:55:46,140 polling location the preference is definitely to have your voters enter in 683 00:55:42,900 --> 00:55:49,160 one door and exit out a different or that could never happen in the basement 684 00:55:47,579 --> 00:55:54,960 here they could yes well those are three 685 00:55:52,260 --> 00:55:59,099 points and I'm in favor of going ahead with this 686 00:55:57,119 --> 00:56:02,460 uh you first you had to talk to your Clerks 687 00:56:00,180 --> 00:56:06,359 I I've already sent them an initial letter of what my ideas are that 688 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:11,040 nothing's carved in stone um my plan was to go to the supervisors 689 00:56:08,460 --> 00:56:15,000 meeting on Thursday and and give them a heads up because I believe after today 690 00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:20,339 they don't meet again until fall so I did not want to wait that long to 691 00:56:17,819 --> 00:56:26,520 give them some kind of information when does that mean Thursday Thursday 692 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:31,260 and just you know a basis ISD but it could be at the other place 693 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:36,180 there you go yeah what 694 00:56:32,819 --> 00:56:40,140 here's what I'm hearing it for a reason I have this sense of 695 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:44,460 wanting to move stuff along today just personally 696 00:56:41,660 --> 00:56:48,059 because you know stuff um it's it has to get backed up a little 697 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:51,359 bit um 698 00:56:48,839 --> 00:56:55,020 you're she's verbalizing the rationale for why it's better over there than in 699 00:56:53,339 --> 00:57:00,059 the basement um and we I think 700 00:56:57,599 --> 00:57:04,200 just full disclosure at this moment if somebody worked in motion before this I 701 00:57:02,099 --> 00:57:08,960 would support it um I'm not planning to motion for it uh 702 00:57:06,660 --> 00:57:15,359 respect for the for the investigative process that you think makes sense 703 00:57:12,839 --> 00:57:19,920 but I'm thinking if if she were to do that I'm hearing that it's going to be 704 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:22,980 fairly evident on paper and there and things can change when it goes on paper 705 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,680 and when there's more formal investigation so I respect that 706 00:57:24,540 --> 00:57:31,380 tremendously because I've seen many occasions where things have changed 707 00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:35,520 from the first blush request however um 708 00:57:32,099 --> 00:57:40,920 I'm hearing that if you talk the parties involved internally and we look at the 709 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:44,460 factors involved even despite it being a little bit more convenient for Antwerp 710 00:57:42,300 --> 00:57:46,520 residents to come here versus going to Hartford 711 00:57:45,660 --> 00:57:50,040 um uh 712 00:57:48,180 --> 00:57:53,160 it makes sense to me it sounds like a lot of homework's already been done 713 00:57:52,260 --> 00:57:58,619 um and my gut tells me there's a lot of 714 00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:02,700 problems with the basement with this so if someone emotions for this I'm going 715 00:58:00,119 --> 00:58:06,300 to support it right now but if she comes if you come back and unfortunately you'd 716 00:58:04,980 --> 00:58:10,079 have to skip Thursday's meeting if you come back with something a little more 717 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:15,839 formal in terms of a study then I'll listen to that oh well I hear 718 00:58:13,020 --> 00:58:21,720 what you're saying uh the justification for the Hartford 719 00:58:18,780 --> 00:58:26,280 location is being made by just looking at the Hartford location no one has 720 00:58:24,059 --> 00:58:29,760 looked at the location that they have in this building see if it would be 721 00:58:28,319 --> 00:58:38,400 suitable or not so I I would favor at least doing that 722 00:58:34,859 --> 00:58:41,000 yeah thank you John small how 723 00:58:41,339 --> 00:58:48,299 can you put another interest way down please there's another there's an exit 724 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:54,140 there now but you have to go through the entire facility to get to it there's no 725 00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,140 elevator in the back axis 726 00:58:56,420 --> 00:59:04,020 I mean it doesn't make it doesn't sound like it makes sense 727 00:59:01,319 --> 00:59:07,440 use the base I really have to take a look at the whole thing 728 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:12,059 we have water issues in the basement with the Elevator Fan uh right now it's 729 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:16,079 like I stated once FOC is out of there you know they move so you don't have the 730 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:19,619 circulation of everybody another it is very musty down there right now we have 731 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:24,420 two dehumidifiers running which are clutching water constantly so if you go 732 00:59:21,780 --> 00:59:29,040 on in the basement now it is not a good atmosphere 733 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:33,500 we could take a look at different HVAC down there until overall cost and 734 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,500 remodeling down there yes 735 00:59:35,299 --> 00:59:41,160 and that would be more than the ten thousand dollars 736 00:59:39,180 --> 00:59:45,299 you were look at maybe ten thousand dollars ten thousand for the Hartford 737 00:59:43,079 --> 00:59:48,140 locations to get it yeah and what spaces 738 00:59:48,859 --> 00:59:56,700 you're only taking up maybe an eighth okay so if somebody wants to come in at 739 00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:59,819 some point we've got another agency that wants to do a rental there that doesn't 740 00:59:58,020 --> 01:00:02,880 prohibit it plus it gives them an automatic 741 01:00:01,079 --> 01:00:07,380 um you said it with the room is large enough you could put a panel down and 742 01:00:05,220 --> 01:00:10,859 have two conference rooms so no matter what 743 01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:14,040 if somebody wants to run it they're not going to do Renovations they're going to 744 01:00:12,540 --> 01:00:18,000 want us to do the renovations to get up to what they this this just moves that 745 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:21,660 ahead I think going from memory I think that the facilities are like 11 000 746 01:00:19,980 --> 01:00:24,200 square feet and you're talking about using 747 01:00:24,540 --> 01:00:33,240 don't worry about you like 30 by 36 you know somewhere in that area 30 by 40. so 748 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:37,920 it's it's implementing some improvements that no matter what are going to need to 749 01:00:35,339 --> 01:00:41,099 be made whether we at some point somebody approaches and wants the whole 750 01:00:40,260 --> 01:00:46,380 building so 751 01:00:43,260 --> 01:00:52,319 say margin can be provided or can be applied the downstairs should be a good 752 01:00:49,140 --> 01:00:58,200 opportunity to make it more desirable as well yeah 753 01:00:54,559 --> 01:01:03,240 correct nine days okay three times a year 754 01:01:00,900 --> 01:01:07,140 that's where I'm coming from and we have a basement 755 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:10,980 and that is Prime real estate out there as far as I'm concerned because it's 756 01:01:09,059 --> 01:01:15,540 above ground seems to me that we already voted funds 757 01:01:13,380 --> 01:01:21,000 to make that available for a jury election room where our jurors could go 758 01:01:18,660 --> 01:01:25,319 out there and we could select jurors from that I thought we already approved 759 01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:29,280 funds yeah a long time ago during covet for that to make these improvements that 760 01:01:27,839 --> 01:01:34,380 building so we would have a large Gathering Place 761 01:01:31,460 --> 01:01:39,960 whatever we needed it for at that time it was jury selection yeah but I think 762 01:01:37,740 --> 01:01:43,740 we've probably spent enough time on this subject and I I don't think you were 763 01:01:42,359 --> 01:01:49,200 looking for a motion today just an update correct Susie well I I mean if we 764 01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:52,500 need to know if if it's going to be if we're still going to talk about that 765 01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:56,339 song all of that but I mean that's what you want 766 01:01:54,059 --> 01:02:00,359 I guess I'm just not really sure whether to even approach these supervisors 767 01:01:59,220 --> 01:02:08,460 because could I make a suggestions 768 01:02:04,079 --> 01:02:11,099 for Ms Roman um two things one she mentioned storage I know there was a lot 769 01:02:09,900 --> 01:02:15,240 of talk about you know 770 01:02:12,359 --> 01:02:20,280 now we have more storage space although humidity matters with paper I 771 01:02:18,900 --> 01:02:24,780 understand that but so storage space if that's a legitimate 772 01:02:22,619 --> 01:02:30,000 thing and I think it is for that space going forward but wouldn't couldn't you 773 01:02:28,319 --> 01:02:35,339 comfortably talk about this with the townships and 774 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:42,480 the township clerks you're just not specifically sure whether it's 775 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:45,599 but it's a central location for all of us to deal with and what what she 776 01:02:44,220 --> 01:02:48,420 initially was looking for was something that was already County owned and I get 777 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:52,380 where you're coming from we've got something but it's it's it's not in a 778 01:02:50,460 --> 01:02:56,160 condition that you could use it for an election but 779 01:02:54,299 --> 01:03:01,680 are there any other County buildings that are even 780 01:02:58,980 --> 01:03:05,720 could be utilized I don't know I mean where I I should know where I'll kind of 781 01:03:04,500 --> 01:03:10,140 oh John is there any other buildings that 782 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:13,859 are empty or available or not with that kind of space no the accessibility of 783 01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:18,859 you know what we talked about getting voters in and out with one you know with 784 01:03:15,839 --> 01:03:18,859 two accesses okay 785 01:03:25,380 --> 01:03:33,540 um to be blind I mean in order for me to pull this off I have to have the vast 786 01:03:31,079 --> 01:03:38,700 majority of the townships come on board sure and in all honesty if I can't get 787 01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:44,880 them a location I don't see that happening and I can't put this off until 788 01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:50,940 the fall and then try to make it happen before the February presidential primary 789 01:03:48,839 --> 01:03:55,640 it's not going to happen I don't have that kind of time can we 790 01:03:53,700 --> 01:04:02,280 put it off two weeks what are we doing in two weeks so you 791 01:03:58,799 --> 01:04:07,220 have John and John and the clerk look at the space downstairs and determine is it 792 01:04:04,799 --> 01:04:13,140 acceptable or not that's all I'm asking we've just jumped right to this other 793 01:04:09,900 --> 01:04:18,480 location without you know fully vetting the idea in my opinion 794 01:04:15,839 --> 01:04:22,500 I mean it was acceptable to have the front of the court down there a couple 795 01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:27,720 weeks ago and now it's not acceptable to have people go down there nine days for 796 01:04:25,020 --> 01:04:33,180 three times a year I I see what you're saying Randy but 797 01:04:29,940 --> 01:04:38,660 also the fact that the parking I mean is so much more parking over there I mean 798 01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:45,660 Susie seems like she's really studying what would be best for the 799 01:04:42,059 --> 01:04:50,960 residents and and you know sometimes with the parking even if this is ideal 800 01:04:48,660 --> 01:04:56,400 down stairs how do we solve that uh you know again 801 01:04:54,420 --> 01:05:03,599 I'm not saying whether I like either location 100 one way or the other all 802 01:05:00,059 --> 01:05:06,540 I'm saying is look at it Don Sam you know before we just run off on this 803 01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:10,920 direction you know we've dealt with that space 804 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:14,520 downstairs ever since I've been a commissioner to get people out of there 805 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:20,220 so it could be freed up we've accomplished that task now it's sitting 806 01:05:16,740 --> 01:05:26,160 there in an unused capacity this to me would be a perfect use for that 807 01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:30,359 reverses buying up premium real estate but again you know 808 01:05:27,839 --> 01:05:35,940 well I'm gonna go back to you know what but uh commissioner shankario said too 809 01:05:33,119 --> 01:05:40,799 about the location geographical or you know whatever I think it is a good 810 01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:44,940 geographic location I mean here would suffice for you know your side of the 811 01:05:43,260 --> 01:05:50,540 county if you would um that's not really in this particular 812 01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:50,540 occasion that's that is 813 01:05:50,599 --> 01:05:57,780 more philosophical because that comes up a lot okay for things that matter more I 814 01:05:56,160 --> 01:06:00,740 understand it yep so it would matter to you know my side of the county too we 815 01:05:59,339 --> 01:06:05,460 don't want to come all the way to Papa sure so 816 01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:10,020 um I think if we took a struggle right now you'd probably be in favor of doing 817 01:06:07,500 --> 01:06:12,900 it in Hartford you know I you know the problems that we've had 818 01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:15,960 down there with you know the Friend of the Court 819 01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:19,140 like uh Pete said you know we've been trying to 820 01:06:17,339 --> 01:06:21,960 get them out of there since I started and finally got admire there now we're 821 01:06:20,819 --> 01:06:25,740 talking about putting something back in there 822 01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:29,220 it's been standard about all the there everybody was so anxious to have that 823 01:06:27,599 --> 01:06:33,839 spot for storage if you're going to use that for storage what you're putting 824 01:06:31,079 --> 01:06:38,339 down there is not public a lot in a lot of instances things that are good so if 825 01:06:37,079 --> 01:06:42,780 you were going to have public come in what are you going to do with the things 826 01:06:40,380 --> 01:06:47,339 that are being stored okay how are you going to partition stuff off so there's 827 01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:52,079 no public access to it I'm just throwing that out there too 828 01:06:49,740 --> 01:06:54,299 and again Randy I understand you you just saying why should we throw money 829 01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:57,839 into something we're only going to use part of the time but if you ever are 830 01:06:56,099 --> 01:07:03,119 going to Market that building and make it so somebody does want to rent it 831 01:07:01,140 --> 01:07:07,980 or lease it you're going to have to do upgrades anyway this gets it done and 832 01:07:06,359 --> 01:07:12,720 we only know what happens when you put stuff off as far as construction and it 833 01:07:09,839 --> 01:07:15,539 the price doesn't go down and it's only for two year lease that we could 834 01:07:14,460 --> 01:07:21,420 possibly well yes for now and then we could be 835 01:07:18,839 --> 01:07:25,680 but there's there's still the greatest percentage of that building is still 836 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:29,160 open open and I don't know that we've had anybody 837 01:07:27,420 --> 01:07:34,440 knocking on the door unless there's just been talks that I'm not aware of anybody 838 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:37,799 who's looking to release it automobile conference room too that the other 839 01:07:35,700 --> 01:07:42,720 people at least could use just not during lunch or that might not even be 840 01:07:40,500 --> 01:07:46,980 yes it would probably continue it was made as and it's a big room The Logical 841 01:07:45,119 --> 01:07:49,520 use is generally if you've got a comments 842 01:07:51,500 --> 01:07:59,880 with all due respect any sentences starts that way 843 01:07:57,500 --> 01:08:05,339 yeah one Robert's Rules come and make it gosh version but 844 01:08:02,220 --> 01:08:09,480 um no the FSA the USDA office conservation history extension or plan 845 01:08:08,039 --> 01:08:13,680 to go there that fell off we've had lots of changes 846 01:08:11,579 --> 01:08:16,980 in administration and a new board and that hasn't come up we've been sitting 847 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:20,880 out here waiting to know when we're moving 848 01:08:18,839 --> 01:08:24,839 um from the extension's point of view we're fine with that we're happy we're 849 01:08:23,100 --> 01:08:28,560 unable to grow we need more space Conservation District I don't know where 850 01:08:26,759 --> 01:08:32,759 that proposal is there was a million dollars coming from the feds 851 01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:37,920 in rent money my opinion if you want it right now is 852 01:08:35,219 --> 01:08:42,600 that renovate that space we wanted that space that was a we need a large 853 01:08:40,199 --> 01:08:48,179 conference room and so this would lean right into that if that was the pleasure 854 01:08:46,020 --> 01:08:51,420 of the county to move extension and USDA out there we've just been kind of out 855 01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:55,580 here waiting I don't know families brought that up to the board she's here 856 01:08:52,980 --> 01:09:00,540 more often than I am but however renovating that space would get you 857 01:08:58,319 --> 01:09:04,799 closer to having us an USDA move in there because clearly we want conference 858 01:09:01,859 --> 01:09:07,560 rooms so that was just that and and just you know it's saying for you 859 01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:10,920 commissioner Larry it's this has been talked about and it's been 860 01:09:09,480 --> 01:09:15,299 two years it's been we're three administrators now going to be four 861 01:09:13,440 --> 01:09:19,620 a lot of times spent on talking and so that's right so thank you I appreciate 862 01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:24,480 the commissioner for your afternoon John do you know where that stand thank 863 01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:28,620 you and I know we talked about it back in the day when I was here before Kobe 864 01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:35,759 did and I think you were saying pause okay so I will there's a couple of 865 01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:39,600 points if I can long term I think we really need to do a facilities master 866 01:09:37,199 --> 01:09:43,759 plan study to see what we do with all the space right now we have two bacon 867 01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:49,500 bases I guess for lack of a better word the basement here and out there let me 868 01:09:48,359 --> 01:09:53,759 know what are we going to do with that but also we have the Big Blocks that 869 01:09:52,259 --> 01:09:57,060 take advantage so that would be a big facilities master plan we don't have 870 01:09:55,620 --> 01:10:02,340 time for that for this particular discussion 871 01:09:58,620 --> 01:10:06,420 talked about this space for the voting um we did kick it around it wasn't that 872 01:10:04,679 --> 01:10:11,100 we just counted it immediately it was mostly the access I'm not comfortable 873 01:10:08,940 --> 01:10:17,400 with that elevator being used that much for the Boating that could possibly use 874 01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:22,500 there's no exit the traffic patterns not good the parking's not good so we went 875 01:10:20,219 --> 01:10:28,199 out to a vacant space that we know we have with those sort of issues taken 876 01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:32,040 care of and I was thinking regardless of and this is where the conversation has 877 01:10:30,060 --> 01:10:35,699 been brought to me that if nothing else that conference room I think increases 878 01:10:33,900 --> 01:10:40,199 the value of that rental space whoever goes out there whether it's uh MSU 879 01:10:38,460 --> 01:10:45,960 Extension the Conservation District I don't know about USDA where they are but 880 01:10:42,480 --> 01:10:49,860 these land-based educational programs that tie in well with with the 881 01:10:48,060 --> 01:10:54,360 fairgrounds I think that's a great location for that type of operation 882 01:10:51,900 --> 01:10:57,780 those operations and they need conference spaces for educational 883 01:10:55,739 --> 01:11:01,380 purposes so um you know we we did 884 01:10:59,460 --> 01:11:05,760 talk about the basement here and we landed at its better 885 01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:11,040 um to start talking about out in Hartford so we came to think about it so 886 01:11:08,460 --> 01:11:16,620 it's What's the total John of that whole base there now that's available 887 01:11:14,159 --> 01:11:21,719 it's all remodel no the space they're available right I believe it's 11 000 888 01:11:18,659 --> 01:11:28,280 square feet okay and how much will take 4x30 889 01:11:24,179 --> 01:11:28,280 so it's a room yeah 890 01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:39,300 I mean is that if all of a sudden that happens you go oh you took that space 891 01:11:37,739 --> 01:11:41,600 that was going to be my office we don't want it 892 01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:51,780 here's my recollection of where things stand as far as the federal government's 893 01:11:49,140 --> 01:11:58,800 concerned unleashing that space initially there was a proposal that was 894 01:11:56,159 --> 01:12:05,040 made by us to them that included uh building out everything 895 01:12:01,980 --> 01:12:10,080 that was this goes back to when Frank was here it included building out you 896 01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:14,760 know everything a new sign in front all kinds of stuff and the FEDS came back 897 01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:22,140 and said wait a minute you know way too much redo it and so we did we redid it 898 01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:27,960 and it was kind of going back and forth but as I recall it was about a million 899 01:12:25,620 --> 01:12:33,780 dollars a year that federal government was going to pay us to rent that space 900 01:12:31,380 --> 01:12:37,980 now where it stands as of today is a hell of a good question and I don't know 901 01:12:35,940 --> 01:12:43,320 and I'm going to be asking John to figure out where does it stand because 902 01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:48,000 if we're sitting on a lease that we need to sign to make million dollars a year 903 01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:54,239 give me the least to sign but this all feeds into let's cool it 904 01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:59,340 and take a couple of weeks here have John figure out where are we on that 905 01:12:56,400 --> 01:13:04,739 space and if we did something like this would that mean that they're no longer 906 01:13:01,739 --> 01:13:09,900 interested I don't know maybe the feds have got some kind of uh requirement I 907 01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:12,239 don't know all I'm saying is let's find out 908 01:13:10,739 --> 01:13:17,040 let's take another look at the space downstairs and as far as parking and all 909 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:21,120 that stuff is concerned it's the way it goes we've got all kinds of parking 910 01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:25,620 around here and again for those nine days a year you might have to walk a 911 01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:29,159 little bit if there's a if if you know I'm not going to over worry about 912 01:13:27,420 --> 01:13:33,719 parking and again using the elevator we're 913 01:13:31,500 --> 01:13:37,380 talking nine days you know 27 days over the course of a 914 01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:40,920 year that the elevator might get more usage I 915 01:13:39,719 --> 01:13:45,480 mean come on doesn't strike me as being you know 916 01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:50,159 excessive or anything like that all I'm suggesting is that when we look at these 917 01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:53,820 things and then we can discuss it make a decision 918 01:13:51,179 --> 01:14:00,120 yes I think we would kick ourselves if we did something like this and then 919 01:13:55,620 --> 01:14:04,699 somehow you know negated the at least with the fats 920 01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,699 foreign 921 01:14:13,020 --> 01:14:16,520 I will make emotions 922 01:14:16,679 --> 01:14:25,140 that we will go ahead with first uh request 923 01:14:22,860 --> 01:14:29,120 for the um Human Services West building 924 01:14:31,679 --> 01:14:35,820 and I won't talk about the discussion now but 925 01:14:35,159 --> 01:14:44,000 um my request is for the we uh construction 926 01:14:40,100 --> 01:14:50,000 of the area for the clerks to have the voting space there 927 01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:50,000 for two year lease 928 01:14:52,739 --> 01:14:58,920 for that okay we have a motion with support 929 01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:02,820 conversation I'll just remind everybody that this 930 01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:06,480 doesn't guarantee it's going to happen she's got to be able to get consensus 931 01:15:04,980 --> 01:15:12,239 from her from her Township clerks as well that 932 01:15:09,659 --> 01:15:16,320 led us to this that that doesn't fall into it they've already said that they 933 01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:20,580 want the majority all that a couple are saying we want you to help us with this 934 01:15:18,179 --> 01:15:24,600 it's just she's got she has to find the location they're all already on board 935 01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:28,320 and the only reason she was going to go talk to the supervisors is to let them 936 01:15:26,340 --> 01:15:32,580 know and for budgeting purposes and stuff too that's it and Julie's already 937 01:15:30,239 --> 01:15:35,400 mentioned this would help facilitate something that you want if you're going 938 01:15:34,199 --> 01:15:40,440 to move out there you want to see happen anyway so it's it's to me it is a 939 01:15:38,820 --> 01:15:45,179 no-brainer because it's moving the building ahead as I said for the third 940 01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:48,540 time I raise boys um 941 01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:52,920 whatever happens we're gonna have to do renovations 942 01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:58,140 so this just moves that part of that that little portion of the building a 943 01:15:55,199 --> 01:16:02,640 room this size moves that part down okay well you said part of what you said is 944 01:16:00,659 --> 01:16:07,560 not exactly correct the renovations are being paid for will 945 01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:10,980 be paid for by the tenant whoever that is 946 01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:16,860 just like the ending contract that we had with the Feds that space they paid 947 01:16:13,500 --> 01:16:21,420 for all the resumes Renovations not us we did them and then we factored it into 948 01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:25,380 our rank and what we were charging them we didn't 949 01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:29,940 we didn't pay for any of them we would not be paying for any of that 950 01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:37,320 just to get it you know so that they were talking about ten thousand whatever 951 01:16:34,199 --> 01:16:40,500 okay any other conversation all right Susie let's do a roll call on 952 01:16:39,239 --> 01:16:45,360 this commissioner yes 953 01:16:43,140 --> 01:16:54,179 Mr Chapel yes Mr Toro yes Mr Godfrey yes 954 01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:57,679 Mr O'Leary yes Mr shankario yes Mr P no 955 01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:06,239 okay I would just ask that as we go forward John make sure that whatever we 956 01:17:03,540 --> 01:17:10,320 do hasn't been in the way of having a lease with a bet that space okay I'll 957 01:17:09,060 --> 01:17:15,060 follow up with them because I'm completely unaware of the conversations 958 01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:21,540 on them well there was an actual document that was going back and forth 959 01:17:18,540 --> 01:17:21,540 that's 960 01:17:24,179 --> 01:17:30,540 Ryan left and everything and you know I don't know that wouldn't it's not the 961 01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:36,980 first file I can't find around right there's a file there and I think the 962 01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:36,980 lease is supposed to be existing 963 01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:42,560 I worked with Ryan Anne with Frank on that okay 964 01:17:43,440 --> 01:17:52,980 okay cool and and chairman B personally if 965 01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:59,840 if Mr fall sees any flying the ointment on that possibility I would I would I 966 01:17:57,120 --> 01:18:04,560 would gladly ask that we re-evaluate and and I would motion to 967 01:18:02,159 --> 01:18:08,960 revolt if he were to find something I don't think he's gonna 968 01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:13,940 I don't think so no thanks for a good direction 969 01:18:11,460 --> 01:18:17,000 yeah yes yes 970 01:18:18,900 --> 01:18:26,420 uh Julie yeah a question do you remember about the 971 01:18:24,719 --> 01:18:29,900 lease I mean it was that 972 01:18:29,940 --> 01:18:36,320 that John would know they had to resubmit and then it came back 973 01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:44,520 will find out where um no one's been pushing that because I 974 01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:50,820 think I think it's been waiting for the account to react to and so I I think but 975 01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:56,640 so but you know we've had changes and that's what's caused the problem so 976 01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:56,640 wow 977 01:18:58,980 --> 01:19:04,460 oh I I believe last conversation with Ryan and the Spain 978 01:19:07,440 --> 01:19:11,300 we used to spend everything that they're required 979 01:19:12,719 --> 01:19:21,300 well we'll find out where it's at and when we report back and then we can make 980 01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:24,980 it for whatever it's worth okay anything further on that 981 01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:39,620 Circuit Court Family Division contract renewals as presented by Mr Veronica 982 01:19:35,480 --> 01:19:44,940 I'm not sure that I want to go next so I have here six juvenile court 983 01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:49,320 contracts four of these actually started at the beginning of the fiscal year we 984 01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:53,940 were at the very beginning stages of a child care fund audit at that time and 985 01:19:51,420 --> 01:19:57,840 so I wanted to wait to work on these contracts until I knew if I had findings 986 01:19:55,800 --> 01:20:02,460 then I need to modify some of the language so that has all been completed 987 01:19:59,820 --> 01:20:06,659 the child care fund audit finally finished up I believe it was in February 988 01:20:04,260 --> 01:20:13,080 and so the contracts did have the language added went back to the 989 01:20:09,060 --> 01:20:16,920 providers and that's where we are today uh so these are just presented for your 990 01:20:15,300 --> 01:20:21,360 signature previously we had the chief judge sign 991 01:20:19,199 --> 01:20:25,739 our juvenile court contracts but now we come to the chair of the board for that 992 01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:29,699 I would make a motion to authorize the board chair to sign in 993 01:20:27,900 --> 01:20:34,620 front of the court contract or 994 01:20:31,500 --> 01:20:38,600 who can support a conversation follow us in favor say yes yes 995 01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:47,239 thank you sometimes going next after a long time 996 01:20:50,179 --> 01:20:54,440 legal self-help center Grant is 997 01:20:54,600 --> 01:21:01,199 so this is very exciting the state court Administrative Office presented a grant 998 01:20:59,219 --> 01:21:05,699 opportunity that would allow for the expansion or establishment of legal 999 01:21:03,179 --> 01:21:09,480 self-help centers and so I approached first the pawpaw library to find out if 1000 01:21:07,980 --> 01:21:13,860 they would be interested in being a site for a legal self-help center they 1001 01:21:11,699 --> 01:21:19,739 responded enthusiastically in fact I believe her word was delighted and so 1002 01:21:16,500 --> 01:21:24,060 then I um talked to the Decatur District Library 1003 01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:27,300 and all of his seven libraries were also interested and so then I talked to the 1004 01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:30,480 other libraries that were in The District in 1005 01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:36,060 the county the there's three others so 11 total all of the libraries were very 1006 01:21:33,540 --> 01:21:41,699 supportive of establishing a legal self-help center in their location and 1007 01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:46,440 so this grant is small and does not actually benefit the county but it will 1008 01:21:44,100 --> 01:21:51,900 be a huge help to our community members because to have a legal self-help center 1009 01:21:49,500 --> 01:21:56,040 in all 11 libraries would put a lot of people within walking distance and so 1010 01:21:54,179 --> 01:22:01,699 this grant would allow each library to have site Navigators so their Librarians 1011 01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:05,640 would be trained to navigate Michigan legalhelp.org they would not provide 1012 01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:10,260 legal advice but they could show people how to use the site and so this grant 1013 01:22:08,159 --> 01:22:12,719 reimburses those Librarians for their time 1014 01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:18,840 there's a couple of libraries that requested new computers and they'll also 1015 01:22:15,179 --> 01:22:24,540 have printers so this grant is submitted for the chair's approval and then it 1016 01:22:22,140 --> 01:22:28,320 would be submitted by a doc you signed to the state court administrative office 1017 01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:31,500 if accepted Mike Walsh weeks up the Grant and 1018 01:22:30,060 --> 01:22:36,540 authorized support share to sign the necessary documents report 1019 01:22:33,780 --> 01:22:42,060 in support of conversation will the funds be distributed equally or based on 1020 01:22:39,179 --> 01:22:45,120 size how will that happen based on size and number of librarians that are 1021 01:22:43,679 --> 01:22:51,480 participating so for example the decade or District 1022 01:22:47,820 --> 01:22:56,640 had 40 40 or 41 Librarians that would be participating whereas Papa might have 1023 01:22:54,000 --> 01:23:02,880 three or four so it just depends on how many they have 1024 01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:02,880 Dr Senator the county moves out yeah 1025 01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:24,420 the chief judge has instructed us in the clerk's office if we ever have anybody 1026 01:23:22,260 --> 01:23:27,020 come in they always want legal advice from our office 1027 01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:34,320 and that is the website that she has on this that they'll be working with is the 1028 01:23:32,580 --> 01:23:38,580 website that we're required to direct everybody to 1029 01:23:36,540 --> 01:23:42,300 one of the really amazing features about this site is that it's presented 1030 01:23:40,199 --> 01:23:46,920 initially in English so that a site Navigator could help 1031 01:23:44,100 --> 01:23:49,860 someone finds the appropriate page but if they're Spanish-speaking individual 1032 01:23:48,540 --> 01:23:54,060 they can just click a button and it will translate the page into Spanish 1033 01:23:51,900 --> 01:23:58,500 it's really a fantastic website that this is provide them with forms which 1034 01:23:56,340 --> 01:24:01,020 they would always come in the office and they want to file something they don't 1035 01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:05,219 have a right paperwork well can't you give me a formal no we couldn't we could 1036 01:24:02,820 --> 01:24:10,080 direct them again just direct them this is giving them instead of their a site 1037 01:24:07,860 --> 01:24:13,140 that they've gotta navigate by themselves at home on their computer 1038 01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:17,340 they've got someone who actually knows how to navigate to sites a printer and a 1039 01:24:16,140 --> 01:24:20,699 printer which a lot of people don't have so you go in and you answer some 1040 01:24:19,020 --> 01:24:25,800 questions that they initially bring up you fill it in and then it 1041 01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:31,620 um fills in all of the forms that the individual will need and prints it out 1042 01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:37,560 and also prints a set of instructions of when to file which documents and this is 1043 01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:43,739 a website that's been in in place for years so it's just giving it a easier 1044 01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:46,580 access and some some help with along with it 1045 01:24:44,699 --> 01:24:52,560 libraries and as you were seeing uh this has been 1046 01:24:49,860 --> 01:24:58,380 that website that's been in the back for years but a lot of the Librarians myself 1047 01:24:54,960 --> 01:25:03,239 include it we try our best but we you know we have not been trained to 1048 01:25:01,020 --> 01:25:08,060 find some of the paperwork we put in this and go back to the importance yeah 1049 01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:17,280 right it even includes topics such as special education Wills immigration 1050 01:25:14,219 --> 01:25:22,860 they're just a plethora of topics thank you so much 1051 01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:27,179 thank you so I sorry it feels like even if this were even if this were a 1052 01:25:24,780 --> 01:25:30,780 one-time thing it certainly would be at least temporarily helpful but 1053 01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:34,800 considering that it's a grant that doesn't involve new employees Etc it's 1054 01:25:32,940 --> 01:25:41,219 just training and a couple pieces of Hardware correct yeah what's the what's 1055 01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:46,739 the long-term perspective on this on this help so Michigan legal Health 1056 01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:50,820 provides the long-term training this is an initial blast I guess you could say 1057 01:25:49,020 --> 01:25:54,600 so that we have a lot of people educated all at one time Michigan little help 1058 01:25:52,739 --> 01:25:58,139 will also help with community outreach so that we can make everybody aware of 1059 01:25:56,580 --> 01:26:01,860 this um and then they would have ongoing 1060 01:25:59,820 --> 01:26:04,739 trainings this first set of training is in person and then there are recorded 1061 01:26:03,659 --> 01:26:08,239 trainings that people can Avail themselves of any time 1062 01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:13,159 anything else 1063 01:26:18,780 --> 01:26:22,159 thank you thank you 1064 01:26:29,639 --> 01:26:37,199 um do we have to wait to vote we have to vote on this 1065 01:26:33,480 --> 01:26:40,639 there was a motion in a second I believe advice yeah 1066 01:26:40,739 --> 01:26:47,880 ocean with a second conversation all those in favor say yes yes yes yes 1067 01:26:46,139 --> 01:26:50,840 both no motion caring 1068 01:26:55,620 --> 01:27:02,179 uh item C 2022 audit efficiency correction Plan update 1069 01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:09,420 as presented by Gloria gosh I don't think I've ever I 1070 01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:14,960 don't think I've ever said your last name out loud 1071 01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:14,960 and I'm still not gonna 1072 01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:20,239 okay 1073 01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:26,600 I've made a lot of reservations at Smith myself 1074 01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:30,980 that you're really like fettuccine 1075 01:27:31,100 --> 01:27:35,360 so miss fettuccine 1076 01:27:36,179 --> 01:27:38,480 thank you 1077 01:27:42,179 --> 01:27:45,860 afternoon commissioners 1078 01:27:46,199 --> 01:27:56,400 haven't thought about this uh item since we put it in the packet I have to get my 1079 01:27:52,500 --> 01:28:03,659 get my mind from approving invoices back to here uh as a result 1080 01:27:59,420 --> 01:28:09,719 of submitting our audit uh in not a timely fashion we would receive a letter 1081 01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:16,980 from the state a notice of deficiency letter even though they approved 1082 01:28:13,739 --> 01:28:25,679 um our later filing we would we would always receive this later on top of that 1083 01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:30,679 the Auditors uh prepare a an APR and audit procedures report and if another 1084 01:28:28,260 --> 01:28:38,520 report card of their findings to the state and 1085 01:28:34,820 --> 01:28:44,340 between the audit being in not quite timely and the notations that our 1086 01:28:41,820 --> 01:28:49,620 Auditors made a um an automated program picks out a 1087 01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:54,620 letter this request for corrective action 1088 01:28:50,780 --> 01:29:00,780 it is fairly boilerplate we do have some 1089 01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:08,280 deficiencies that were reported 22 years in a row so the state will will start 1090 01:29:05,219 --> 01:29:14,280 looking harder at that that has to do with the timely bank reconciliations and 1091 01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:19,739 I think we've really really turned a corner on the last two months and and 1092 01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:24,780 getting the audit put to bed this year I think there's really been a breakthrough 1093 01:29:21,620 --> 01:29:27,840 let's see another one of the issues is that uh 1094 01:29:27,060 --> 01:29:33,060 um each 1095 01:29:29,340 --> 01:29:42,480 activity or Department must stay within budget uh by state by Public Act One of 1096 01:29:37,860 --> 01:29:49,699 the items we a sheriff activity um the whole Sheriff Department was well 1097 01:29:45,480 --> 01:29:55,739 within its budget one of the substrata exceeded uh went over 900 about 927 1098 01:29:53,580 --> 01:29:58,920 dollars out of a two million dollar budget 1099 01:29:56,760 --> 01:30:04,320 so I wanted to say to the state like really as a response but that wouldn't 1100 01:30:01,440 --> 01:30:10,620 quite be professional so we do recognize that again getting back to that this is 1101 01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:16,860 a you know computer-generated letter um and talk to the Auditors on our 1102 01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:21,120 responses they're fairly short responses and I think we'll be in okay shape when 1103 01:30:19,380 --> 01:30:25,199 we submit this but it because the letter did come to 1104 01:30:23,580 --> 01:30:28,260 the board um really we would like the board to 1105 01:30:27,060 --> 01:30:33,000 review it and if there's any comments or concerns 1106 01:30:30,480 --> 01:30:36,920 so we can deal with it and if not we'll send it on its way by June 2nd 1107 01:30:40,440 --> 01:30:43,040 questions 1108 01:30:44,060 --> 01:30:52,080 so you'd like approval to submit the letter please yes motion 1109 01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:06,120 conversation all those in favor say yes yes yes no 1110 01:31:04,199 --> 01:31:08,960 motion caring thank you 1111 01:31:09,480 --> 01:31:16,199 thank you exactly 1112 01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:19,639 first item is for out-of-state training for the prosecutor's office 1113 01:31:21,540 --> 01:31:25,340 I know that we have anyone here 1114 01:31:27,480 --> 01:31:35,239 I think it's a training that was in their budget it's in their budget and 1115 01:31:31,500 --> 01:31:35,239 it's part of their Grant I think 1116 01:31:35,460 --> 01:31:41,460 they're Grant with this one I don't believe there's Grandpa was they're 1117 01:31:39,179 --> 01:31:43,820 either budget anyway employee training budget 1118 01:31:46,100 --> 01:31:53,600 and support it conversation 1119 01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:58,520 all those in favor say yes yes yes suppose no 1120 01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:58,520 motion carry 1121 01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:04,340 we have Paris Joe salary exception 1122 01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:11,760 okay and I'm sure you guys are tired of the seller assumptions but uh 1123 01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:16,520 for the sake of time and so don't stress the vegetables out of you the TVs that's 1124 01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:21,840 a good word that's great I've heard that a long time I have not 1125 01:32:19,980 --> 01:32:25,739 heard that a long time um so I'm asking for a seller exception 1126 01:32:23,699 --> 01:32:30,120 for the chief Deputy drain commissioner it's been posted for a year now 1127 01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:34,620 um originally when I started the position it was three grand higher but 1128 01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:39,360 then we took it out of the union and dropped the bottom and top range of it 1129 01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:43,620 um I have a really good candidate here um probably one of the better interviews 1130 01:32:41,340 --> 01:32:46,800 I've had in the 17 years so and this is my first 1131 01:32:44,639 --> 01:32:50,400 asking for this in 17 years for a seller exception so 1132 01:32:48,239 --> 01:32:55,520 um and it's been bacon for a year so yeah I could use this appreciate it any 1133 01:32:53,219 --> 01:32:55,520 questions 1134 01:32:58,860 --> 01:33:02,719 case foreign 1135 01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:28,920 okay 1136 01:33:36,300 --> 01:33:45,120 well I get the impression from talking to some of the Commissioners that 1137 01:33:42,060 --> 01:33:50,040 a little more time would be appreciated to you know Maul all this over and think 1138 01:33:48,719 --> 01:33:55,739 it through so uh I'm okay with that myself 1139 01:33:53,580 --> 01:34:00,540 but uh if anybody wants to bring anything up at this point or 1140 01:33:58,500 --> 01:34:05,100 or I don't see any of the department heads out there right now but 1141 01:34:02,820 --> 01:34:07,940 if anybody wants to discuss it further now it's a good time 1142 01:34:13,860 --> 01:34:19,100 pretty handsome up there that's him 1143 01:34:21,480 --> 01:34:33,179 a news article that I sent to you I didn't know if that should be sent also 1144 01:34:29,699 --> 01:34:38,460 elect officials or do we discuss it it doesn't mean that it's a no order yes 1145 01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:43,760 but it just something that was concerning so the article that you sent 1146 01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:47,420 to me was sent to the other commissioner elect officials 1147 01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:52,280 it's our ultimate decision 1148 01:34:53,040 --> 01:35:02,060 I read through that I don't know what the treasure had done yeah to be 1149 01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:08,540 dismissed I could understand if it was embezzlement or something like that 1150 01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:08,540 because the board did support it 1151 01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:17,400 but they had said they said that he did it in the wrong order 1152 01:35:15,179 --> 01:35:22,199 you had to come to them before the person could be dismissed that's how I 1153 01:35:19,500 --> 01:35:27,179 run it yeah in all fairness there were others as I 1154 01:35:24,540 --> 01:35:30,900 looked at some of these you can find um I found another one 1155 01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:34,080 um that the council allegedly seeks to remove a person 1156 01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:39,679 so if we're going to point out one I need to point out all of them well I 1157 01:35:35,820 --> 01:35:39,679 would like to see that information too 1158 01:35:45,860 --> 01:35:51,360 closed session of Albion Council allegedly seeks to remove city manager 1159 01:35:49,620 --> 01:35:55,020 Haley Schneider he wasn't removed and doesn't say what 1160 01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:58,020 for but you know these things are out there so 1161 01:35:56,639 --> 01:36:00,900 um we're gonna start pulling them up we should do on all the folks not just you 1162 01:36:00,060 --> 01:36:06,719 know that was mentioned at the 1163 01:36:04,860 --> 01:36:11,280 meeting but had happened and that like you said 1164 01:36:09,060 --> 01:36:17,460 sometimes these things happen and right but we should no I'm glad that it was 1165 01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:22,500 mentioned there but this one wasn't well this is a big decision and uh you 1166 01:36:20,820 --> 01:36:27,360 know think this thing through for a couple of weeks I mean all this data 1167 01:36:24,900 --> 01:36:33,659 some of it we just got Friday you know last week so to not be too quick 1168 01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:36,199 all right foreign 1169 01:36:39,199 --> 01:36:46,500 that's what happened to one of them last time right took a job took the Ionia 1170 01:36:44,639 --> 01:36:51,600 County job before we could get to interview that person no 1171 01:36:49,500 --> 01:36:57,000 what's happening you always run that risk any delay you know we could lose 1172 01:36:54,480 --> 01:37:02,880 some some or all of the candidates but with that said 1173 01:36:59,159 --> 01:37:06,719 never think it's a good idea to rush it professionally 1174 01:37:04,199 --> 01:37:11,460 this job I've talked first 1175 01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:16,800 will there be some something sent to each one of the 1176 01:37:13,860 --> 01:37:20,699 interviewees just to advise them that I mean it's I think it's 1177 01:37:19,139 --> 01:37:24,060 but when they interview when someone comes to interview in a week I think 1178 01:37:22,500 --> 01:37:28,260 they're expecting to hear something so we've already gone a few days but I know 1179 01:37:26,580 --> 01:37:33,080 two weeks isn't forever but at least advising them that 1180 01:37:30,420 --> 01:37:33,080 good idea 1181 01:37:35,699 --> 01:37:40,320 yeah either way as long as they're notified I 1182 01:37:38,820 --> 01:37:44,219 mean right just some way of letting them know 1183 01:37:41,580 --> 01:37:49,460 hey John would you please make sure that candidates know that work still in 1184 01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:49,460 deliberation 1185 01:37:50,940 --> 01:38:00,600 so do we want a motion to put this on the next agenda oh I'm 1186 01:37:57,480 --> 01:38:04,980 would like to add since it's you know some 1187 01:38:02,639 --> 01:38:09,780 we are doing our due diligence here we want to 1188 01:38:07,500 --> 01:38:12,739 make a good decision personally with 1189 01:38:12,900 --> 01:38:18,420 what I've seen with our top considerations what I've 1190 01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:23,820 seen and heard and asking a couple questions of folks 1191 01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:27,780 from here I don't see anything that I don't see anything 1192 01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:32,460 no major red flags I just 1193 01:38:29,100 --> 01:38:37,880 us being deliberate and thoughtful is is key at this moment I don't really see 1194 01:38:35,460 --> 01:38:37,880 anything 1195 01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:44,520 I think we have good choices I don't see anything that's 1196 01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:49,620 really off-putting 1197 01:38:46,500 --> 01:38:53,760 when you consider the the length of an average 1198 01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:57,540 person in a role like this we don't have stats on city managers but 1199 01:38:56,100 --> 01:39:02,520 uh the folks were considering I mean our 1200 01:39:00,060 --> 01:39:08,699 our lead as a pretty 1201 01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:12,560 darn good track record now it would appear 1202 01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:12,560 Ed 1203 01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:21,719 I mean I mean we talked a lot about it last meeting 1204 01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:27,500 before we left on Friday we were trying to talk about it we talked about each of 1205 01:39:24,060 --> 01:39:27,500 our individual but I did not 1206 01:39:27,620 --> 01:39:30,920 oh okay 1207 01:39:32,460 --> 01:39:40,080 all right anything further otherwise emotion or do we even need emotions 1208 01:39:37,739 --> 01:39:44,280 we can just put it on and put it on the next object 1209 01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:48,679 that's all right that's what we're gonna do 1210 01:39:46,380 --> 01:39:48,679 okay 1211 01:39:48,719 --> 01:39:57,420 just one question if we wanted to do second interviews 1212 01:39:54,420 --> 01:40:02,400 is it okay to have and and there it was obvious we were all 1213 01:39:59,580 --> 01:40:06,000 talking about Marty that um 1214 01:40:04,020 --> 01:40:10,739 and he's the one that that has been there's some red flags now if you and 1215 01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:15,360 maybe not as you know we don't know all the circumstances 1216 01:40:12,540 --> 01:40:19,739 is it I don't know that much about making this in public about it but it's 1217 01:40:17,820 --> 01:40:25,320 legal or not to do or what's good or not to do an interview process but to do a 1218 01:40:22,739 --> 01:40:30,600 second interview and have him explain I mean there can be a lot of reasons 1219 01:40:27,320 --> 01:40:37,080 there's personality um issues that go on with boards and I'm sure over the course 1220 01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:40,080 of time they've been very qualified very um 1221 01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:45,020 good administrators or people in any position that end up losing their jobs 1222 01:40:42,300 --> 01:40:45,020 personality 1223 01:40:50,580 --> 01:41:00,360 yes in a second interview absolutely into a second interview we could reject 1224 01:40:57,060 --> 01:41:03,800 all candidates I mean again right now it's all on the table 1225 01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:12,780 so it would with the second interview would it be 1226 01:41:08,780 --> 01:41:16,560 from all five or the top three that we might have well whoever would choose to 1227 01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:19,679 and there would be no reason to get all five back in I don't think because there 1228 01:41:17,940 --> 01:41:24,900 was something we could choose one or two we could choose what we want 1229 01:41:22,460 --> 01:41:29,340 but if we don't do anything for two weeks what's going to go on in those two 1230 01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:33,960 weeks yeah that's a good idea I mean Mr Walsh told us last time that we would 1231 01:41:31,980 --> 01:41:39,860 only have four because one of them has already taken a position 1232 01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:39,860 so there were only four left of our five 1233 01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:48,179 how do you determine let's say the top two we I 1234 01:41:45,780 --> 01:41:54,260 from the talk it's like uh his advice to us remember was go with 1235 01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:54,260 your gut 1236 01:41:54,480 --> 01:42:02,040 because we talked about scoring systems and all of that 1237 01:41:59,159 --> 01:42:04,699 well and we couldn't really do before we did not do that 1238 01:42:04,980 --> 01:42:09,080 we um 1239 01:42:09,659 --> 01:42:15,540 we can do a while I would suggest us we're fortunate in the sense that we 1240 01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:21,619 have we have good leadership currently 1241 01:42:17,460 --> 01:42:21,619 so we're not panicked we don't have to 1242 01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:31,800 dynamic um but we certainly with good people we 1243 01:42:29,119 --> 01:42:34,800 you know we were ready to go we were ready to go Friday we decided to wait 1244 01:42:33,540 --> 01:42:37,080 four days now we're gonna wait two more weeks and that's fine I understand 1245 01:42:35,699 --> 01:42:42,719 totally why but maybe we we don't want to wait that 1246 01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:45,560 long if we think we got the right right person 1247 01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:57,260 so do you do whatever you want if everybody has I mean if the majority 1248 01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:57,260 sort of their idea of who they want 1249 01:42:57,300 --> 01:43:04,440 then I might be in the minority so I don't want to hold everybody out 1250 01:43:02,699 --> 01:43:06,980 I mean I can't vote wow 1251 01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:17,179 you know I can make a decision making another couple weeks doesn't 1252 01:43:13,739 --> 01:43:17,179 strike me as being bad 1253 01:43:17,699 --> 01:43:24,719 and we are we are in good shape right now unfortunately 1254 01:43:21,780 --> 01:43:27,800 but we're not under the gun we can take 1255 01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:36,420 I go back to my again my private sector days 1256 01:43:33,119 --> 01:43:40,760 the watchword that we used was higher slow Fire fast 1257 01:43:42,980 --> 01:43:47,780 [Laughter] and Julian 1258 01:43:51,239 --> 01:43:58,860 what's the pleasure of the board wait 1259 01:43:55,739 --> 01:44:03,080 I say two weeks but if we say two weeks then we're gonna ask 1260 01:44:01,139 --> 01:44:07,560 them I would say we meet again in two weeks 1261 01:44:05,940 --> 01:44:12,420 with the idea that we're going to make a decision yeah it's up to us whether we 1262 01:44:09,719 --> 01:44:15,500 do or not but in my mind two weeks we're making it 1263 01:44:15,780 --> 01:44:23,760 in the meantime we could take interviews if we wanted to I mean 1264 01:44:21,179 --> 01:44:29,600 in the meantime any investigation that a board member wants to do is wide open 1265 01:44:26,820 --> 01:44:29,600 do it 1266 01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:38,940 legally yeah okay if we're good with that and 1267 01:44:36,480 --> 01:44:44,760 I'll move on the agenda okay so this will be on the agenda again 1268 01:44:41,219 --> 01:44:49,739 in two weeks with an idea to to make a decision 1269 01:44:46,199 --> 01:44:55,080 and Mr Paul is going to advise the candidates and Mr Walsh that we are 1270 01:44:53,340 --> 01:44:59,420 still in deliberation and uh you know what our status is 1271 01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:03,860 thanks 1272 01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:13,320 number 11 I.T update afternoon 1273 01:45:11,639 --> 01:45:16,619 do my best to keep this brief in the interest of time uh so there's been a 1274 01:45:15,420 --> 01:45:20,219 lot of changes in the county in the last two years since I've been here 1275 01:45:18,420 --> 01:45:24,540 um and I.T is not an exception either so that's all I wanted to show you guys the 1276 01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:28,380 organizational chart there so with me becoming uh filling this director role 1277 01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:32,699 we had some really good in-house Talent we posted the operations manager role uh 1278 01:45:30,900 --> 01:45:36,080 we had really actually no external applicants I was really surprised to see 1279 01:45:34,139 --> 01:45:40,560 that I think our compensation is fair especially in this area 1280 01:45:38,940 --> 01:45:44,100 um but luckily we had two really strong internal candidates and it was a really 1281 01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:48,179 tough pick for me but I elevated code of the operations manager position he's 1282 01:45:46,139 --> 01:45:52,260 been there for about three weeks now and he's doing a great job he's very 1283 01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:56,159 technically skilled he has a lot of of leadership experience in his past jobs 1284 01:45:54,060 --> 01:45:59,100 and he's been a great mentor the whole time he's been here so I think he's 1285 01:45:57,840 --> 01:46:03,239 really going to Excel and do well for the county in that regard 1286 01:46:01,020 --> 01:46:08,100 um you know with that with that in mind it opens up our it General's three 1287 01:46:06,540 --> 01:46:12,420 positions so we've had that job posted now for three weeks we've had 10 or 15 1288 01:46:09,719 --> 01:46:17,340 applicants so far about 3 four of them were viable they met the the metrics on 1289 01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:22,139 their resume anyway and would fit the role one we we brought two interviews in 1290 01:46:19,860 --> 01:46:25,139 one of them was a very good interview we would he's in the running for for a 1291 01:46:23,699 --> 01:46:27,900 potential hire and we have two additional interviews we're trying to 1292 01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:32,520 schedule uh currently so we're hoping to wrap that up next week and get somebody 1293 01:46:29,699 --> 01:46:35,940 in within the the week after that so all goes well we'll have a full team which 1294 01:46:34,260 --> 01:46:39,600 will be the first time since I've been here actually there's always a series of 1295 01:46:37,860 --> 01:46:42,540 events where we get full staffed and then somebody ends up leaving or going 1296 01:46:41,159 --> 01:46:47,159 down a National Guard deployment so really looking forward to that and uh 1297 01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:50,280 and and growing this team especially since the average age of the team the 1298 01:46:48,900 --> 01:46:54,300 average tenure here is just over two years so we're starting to get back some 1299 01:46:52,739 --> 01:46:59,540 of that institutional knowledge that was lost in 2021 uh in 2020 and so one of 1300 01:46:58,440 --> 01:47:04,500 the things that we're trying to do to build that knowledge is what I'm what I 1301 01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:09,900 call an Institutional or excuse me a systems overview 1302 01:47:06,199 --> 01:47:12,900 uh documentation sheet so I formed a team within the department with three 1303 01:47:11,460 --> 01:47:18,420 individuals so our Network infrastructure engineer Josh perk as 1304 01:47:15,420 --> 01:47:21,600 well as uh Colin Coe and they've been here longer than 1305 01:47:19,679 --> 01:47:25,080 um anyone other than Aaron and Pedro who are it generalist too is who they have a 1306 01:47:23,580 --> 01:47:29,219 lot of help desk knowledge which is fantastic especially as we were going 1307 01:47:26,940 --> 01:47:32,100 through that first turnover they really kept things running on the ground but 1308 01:47:30,780 --> 01:47:35,040 what we're missing was that higher level uh understanding of the whole 1309 01:47:33,780 --> 01:47:39,239 organization as a whole and all the systems at play so between the three of 1310 01:47:37,380 --> 01:47:43,260 us we meet every two weeks we sit down and we we use a standard template to 1311 01:47:41,100 --> 01:47:47,340 document the systems on one page that's easy at a glance and we really tie in 1312 01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:51,659 you know where they're located who the vendor is what the support process is 1313 01:47:49,080 --> 01:47:55,320 and a ton of other details and it's something that we're really we're hoping 1314 01:47:52,980 --> 01:48:00,239 that will make training the lower level positions and and new people coming on 1315 01:47:57,600 --> 01:48:02,760 board a lot easier so the benefit to that is 1316 01:48:01,320 --> 01:48:05,699 um it's it's everything's in one spot everything's linked in one place and as 1317 01:48:04,500 --> 01:48:08,820 we're building those documents we're putting an old documentation for some of 1318 01:48:07,380 --> 01:48:12,719 the day-to-day tasks and reviewing those and updating those as well so I really 1319 01:48:10,500 --> 01:48:16,020 think that'll help just everyone on the team get this this high level overview 1320 01:48:14,580 --> 01:48:19,139 that sometimes you miss if you're in some of those more helpless level 1321 01:48:17,219 --> 01:48:22,560 positions so and what that does is also Poise us to be able to promote 1322 01:48:20,699 --> 01:48:26,460 internally as as positions become available I think that'll poison us 1323 01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:29,699 really well for the future um 1324 01:48:27,540 --> 01:48:33,420 some of the big the big projects we've been working on uh have been our switch 1325 01:48:31,739 --> 01:48:37,800 Replacements so I'm sure you guys most of you remember the lightning strike of 1326 01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:42,119 2021 I call it the worst Christmas gift ever it was December 27th when it 1327 01:48:39,659 --> 01:48:46,080 happened so with the supply chain issues it took us quite a while to get the 1328 01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:50,460 switches in place or excuse me ordered and acquired in-house so we got those 1329 01:48:48,119 --> 01:48:54,900 late last year we built uh a configuration for them and we got them 1330 01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:59,159 ready to deploy out we have nine data closets which is about 17 switches that 1331 01:48:57,119 --> 01:49:03,179 we had that had to be replaced so far we're out of nine data closets we've 1332 01:49:01,260 --> 01:49:06,480 replaced five of them we've been running into some issues we'd hope to have this 1333 01:49:04,679 --> 01:49:10,440 done already but we've identified some Fiber issues between buildings that 1334 01:49:08,159 --> 01:49:13,619 we're working to resolve without spending any money we have alternate 1335 01:49:11,760 --> 01:49:18,540 paths that we're trying to to pursue and I think we can achieve this and complete 1336 01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:22,739 this project by the end of June the next thing earlier in the year you guys 1337 01:49:20,460 --> 01:49:26,940 approved the purchase of over 200 handset devices to replace all these 1338 01:49:25,199 --> 01:49:31,380 aging handsets around the county so happy to report over one short from 1339 01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:35,460 having it completed year of 205 to phones scheduled to go out we've 1340 01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:38,940 replaced uh 204 so we're waiting on a headset for that last one and I should 1341 01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:42,540 arrive this week and go out the field so we can wrap that up and that's a good 1342 01:49:40,619 --> 01:49:45,300 one it really prevents us from any issues moving forward we've had some 1343 01:49:43,739 --> 01:49:49,020 phone issues and these ones have been have been really solid so appreciate the 1344 01:49:47,100 --> 01:49:52,619 boards you know support from since I've been here to be able to buy large 1345 01:49:50,940 --> 01:49:59,219 purchases like that that really put us in a good position for long-term support 1346 01:49:56,040 --> 01:50:03,060 um next couple projects the uh we'll get to in the technical weeds here a lot of 1347 01:50:01,080 --> 01:50:07,920 our we have over 70 plus servers within the organization every year the we run 1348 01:50:06,360 --> 01:50:11,760 different operating systems on each one every year Microsoft kind of Ages some 1349 01:50:10,199 --> 01:50:15,719 of them out that are no longer supported so we're keeping an eye on that we've 1350 01:50:13,739 --> 01:50:20,760 identified 15 servers that will go end of life in October of those 15 we've 1351 01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:25,920 already updated or migrated four of them so there's 11 left we have plans for all 1352 01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:29,820 those in place and and we have a Target goal to have those done by the the month 1353 01:50:27,960 --> 01:50:33,840 of September so we can feed that into life term by uh by one month so and we 1354 01:50:32,639 --> 01:50:37,320 can probably get it done sooner than that actually uh the next thing uh you 1355 01:50:36,239 --> 01:50:41,040 guys will be hearing from me pretty soon we're doing a PC refresh for this year 1356 01:50:39,300 --> 01:50:44,580 with some of the projects going on we haven't been able to do this early on in 1357 01:50:42,300 --> 01:50:48,300 the year but we've identified 40 computers we typically do 50 but with a 1358 01:50:46,800 --> 01:50:52,260 Friend of the Court move we purchase some laptops early on in the year 1359 01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:56,219 replaced about 13 devices out of the the general 50 that we would do so we're a 1360 01:50:54,300 --> 01:51:00,719 little ahead of the curve there so with these 40 we're in the process of getting 1361 01:50:57,860 --> 01:51:05,699 quotes on so then hopefully by the next board meeting I'll have a an approval 1362 01:51:03,540 --> 01:51:08,820 amount for you guys to have a new order of 40 laptops coming in we've already 1363 01:51:07,440 --> 01:51:12,659 budgeted for that so it won't be a monetary ask it's really just getting 1364 01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:16,320 your approval to make such a big purchase so 1365 01:51:14,340 --> 01:51:19,739 big projects we have there's plenty more but uh I don't want to bore you guys too 1366 01:51:18,360 --> 01:51:23,360 much and the meeting's already a little over so if you guys have any questions 1367 01:51:20,940 --> 01:51:23,360 for me 1368 01:51:24,119 --> 01:51:31,380 thanks thank you thank you thank you thanks for the update and 1369 01:51:28,699 --> 01:51:35,040 internal internal um 1370 01:51:33,060 --> 01:51:39,480 rising up internally should help with institutional knowledge 1371 01:51:37,679 --> 01:51:43,380 oh that's good or of course man we have a really really strong smart team so I 1372 01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:45,619 think we have a lot of room to grill there 1373 01:51:48,239 --> 01:51:54,540 okay anything for public transit well other than um I don't know if 1374 01:51:53,100 --> 01:51:59,280 everybody knew this but our former director Tony chipola's mother passed 1375 01:51:56,940 --> 01:52:03,619 away and uh she was uh Services were yesterday she was 99 years 1376 01:52:01,380 --> 01:52:03,619 old 1377 01:52:04,440 --> 01:52:09,440 she was really well liked too that was a big service 1378 01:52:11,239 --> 01:52:14,840 okay um 1379 01:52:16,440 --> 01:52:24,860 okay we are at public comment thank you 1380 01:52:21,000 --> 01:52:24,860 please don't talk about buildings 1381 01:52:35,360 --> 01:52:42,020 I don't see anything online so we are at adjournment 1382 01:52:42,119 --> 01:52:47,840 we'll move support we've been supporting to a journalism 1383 01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:57,179 all right um will Joseph uh Village manager for 1384 01:52:54,300 --> 01:53:01,340 the village of paw paw and I just noted that item 9A related to the Hazen Street 1385 01:53:00,300 --> 01:53:06,900 Road Extension in uh Village of pava housing 1386 01:53:04,500 --> 01:53:14,699 developments on the consent uh calendar and I just wanted to thank the board for 1387 01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:18,080 their cooperation in this regard and we look forward to the results of the 1388 01:53:16,679 --> 01:53:23,400 survey and looking forward to working together as 1389 01:53:20,580 --> 01:53:25,880 that project unfold so thank you thank you thank you 1390 01:53:30,840 --> 01:53:36,260 John do you have a um 1391 01:53:37,139 --> 01:53:43,619 God will John John explain me your timeline so I'll make sure you get that 1392 01:53:40,820 --> 01:53:46,860 ahead of time I just give you a kind of update what's going on over the road 1393 01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:51,659 commission we talk about engineering to do this on a monthly basis uh we have 1394 01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:55,619 taken delivery of two plow trucks you can see the cost of air of the truck 1395 01:53:53,520 --> 01:53:59,940 plus the other equipment runs about three hundred thousand dollars per truck 1396 01:53:57,480 --> 01:54:04,320 and obviously not going down we're going to have a pretty good size auction later 1397 01:54:01,679 --> 01:54:09,840 this year as we start removing some of the fleet that we don't need anymore and 1398 01:54:06,540 --> 01:54:13,500 kind of right size as I would say it our audits down and completed on time it's 1399 01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:18,239 going to be presented to the board of commissions on June 7th uh everything 1400 01:54:16,199 --> 01:54:23,340 looks good on that part you can tell this is what we spent uh on 1401 01:54:21,060 --> 01:54:27,420 New Roads last year eight million four hundred thousand which sadly is getting 1402 01:54:25,560 --> 01:54:32,100 less and less of a mile with each passing month now those just 1403 01:54:30,420 --> 01:54:37,679 you can see the sources of our funding Michigan Transportation fund is most 1404 01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:41,280 commonly called Act 51. uh Township contributions which is phenomenal you 1405 01:54:39,900 --> 01:54:46,139 don't see that across the state very much tiny wide millage and then other I 1406 01:54:44,699 --> 01:54:49,320 wrote expenditures you can see how they're listed out there between 1407 01:54:47,760 --> 01:54:55,920 maintenance and heavy maintenance Administration and equipment and capital 1408 01:54:52,619 --> 01:55:00,420 outlay I think this part's incredible 17 of the 18 townships have a millage again 1409 01:54:58,920 --> 01:55:03,360 I don't think that'd be a high percentage to find across anywhere 1410 01:55:01,800 --> 01:55:07,219 across the state of Michigan I think absolutely phenomenal average millage 1411 01:55:06,239 --> 01:55:12,960 rate is 1.784 brings in roughly around 4.2 1412 01:55:11,520 --> 01:55:16,860 million dollars there was three townships that did have millions votes 1413 01:55:14,820 --> 01:55:21,000 up at the beginning of the month that was Bangor Keeler and covert may pass by 1414 01:55:19,260 --> 01:55:26,940 average margin of 69 to 31 we had 15 road closures so far 1415 01:55:25,139 --> 01:55:30,420 this month all of them are ready to do this 1416 01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:34,980 uh culverts trees me in down and we had one in covert Township we had cows on 1417 01:55:32,159 --> 01:55:37,980 the road so that was a good call that came through might want to get that 1418 01:55:36,360 --> 01:55:43,440 guy's number that was on the news this morning you see that no I did not on the 1419 01:55:40,199 --> 01:55:48,540 I-75 yeah I said had to get a cowboy out there and it lasted 1420 01:55:45,380 --> 01:55:50,840 yeah the traffic's just present by and yeah 1421 01:55:51,060 --> 01:55:57,119 I think the Kyle's finally just kind of meandered across the road and got to 1422 01:55:54,840 --> 01:56:00,420 where they wanted to go uh so far you know through 1423 01:55:58,020 --> 01:56:03,739 um we have that c click fix which works really well when people have complaints 1424 01:56:02,340 --> 01:56:10,020 and they obviously they can call too we've had 84 of those so far this month 1425 01:56:07,080 --> 01:56:15,960 14 for potholes all 14 were filled within the three-day time period as per 1426 01:56:12,780 --> 01:56:21,360 policy uh in addition to anyone wanting to do permits in person anyone can do 1427 01:56:19,260 --> 01:56:25,619 them all online now too so I think that helps out 1428 01:56:22,639 --> 01:56:29,460 a couple weeks ago last week Road Commission won the Moody on Market won 1429 01:56:27,060 --> 01:56:32,820 best places to work in a three County area and they're going to be honored 1430 01:56:31,619 --> 01:56:38,040 tomorrow night uh down at Harbor Shores maintenance 1431 01:56:35,760 --> 01:56:41,780 wise that's fantastic well congratulations well it's not to me it's 1432 01:56:40,020 --> 01:56:46,260 the credit to the board and to the staff you know I think when you look at one of 1433 01:56:44,340 --> 01:56:50,760 the reasons I did choose Road commissions they had no vacancies 1434 01:56:48,440 --> 01:56:54,179 and that's you you go around different places in this environment that's pretty 1435 01:56:52,980 --> 01:56:57,960 rare and so nothing worse than having to come 1436 01:56:56,580 --> 01:57:01,320 into any organization I don't care where you're at what job and knowing you have 1437 01:56:59,699 --> 01:57:06,960 to fill a bunch of slots it's just difficult to do in this environment 1438 01:57:04,020 --> 01:57:12,300 uh maintenance wise roadside mowing has started dust control starts this week we 1439 01:57:09,780 --> 01:57:17,219 have two types of the oil brine which I think is seven townships and chloride is 1440 01:57:14,280 --> 01:57:22,260 being used by six townships you can see the road work that's going 1441 01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:25,800 on in the area one of the things the board will approve will be uh we're 1442 01:57:24,239 --> 01:57:30,960 gonna start putting signs up when we do like redo a rope and it says how much a 1443 01:57:29,699 --> 01:57:35,340 project is because I think most people don't realize how much it costs to do a 1444 01:57:32,820 --> 01:57:40,619 road and then who's finding it and you know I know who the Harper funds you 1445 01:57:37,520 --> 01:57:45,840 will donate or get our infrasion I put it that 1.2 million so when that road 1446 01:57:43,080 --> 01:57:49,739 pops up then we'll do that we have uh Senator Peter's office to that office or 1447 01:57:47,880 --> 01:57:53,699 put the names where the funds are coming from including the township so people 1448 01:57:51,420 --> 01:57:58,320 know it's a collaborative effort not just an endless stream of money that 1449 01:57:55,739 --> 01:58:01,080 comes from a tree um 1450 01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:06,719 and the last thing we're really working on trying to finalize is the equipment 1451 01:58:04,139 --> 01:58:10,400 and vehicle replacement program not just replacing 1452 01:58:07,860 --> 01:58:16,199 based on I want to say feelings well based on facts based on vehicles getting 1453 01:58:13,560 --> 01:58:20,840 up in Miles getting up in age and we got one that's 39 years old we've got three 1454 01:58:18,840 --> 01:58:24,719 or four that a quarter million in miles at what point does it not pay to keep 1455 01:58:23,400 --> 01:58:30,179 fixing stuff and so you know I'd rather not sell for 1456 01:58:27,360 --> 01:58:33,960 scrap I'd rather sell for some value and so we're looking at that and 1457 01:58:32,219 --> 01:58:39,360 probably we'll end up doing is replace on average about three and a half so one 1458 01:58:36,300 --> 01:58:42,780 year three one year four uh plow trucks dump trucks however words you want to 1459 01:58:40,920 --> 01:58:46,440 put toward the happy multi-task I don't want them but they can only plow than 1460 01:58:44,639 --> 01:58:52,139 they sit for nine months a year that's foolish in today's environment and same 1461 01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:55,500 with our trucks and cars that we have in the fleet about three of those a year 1462 01:58:53,580 --> 01:58:59,639 the main purpose is to give our Engineers a streamline of funds that 1463 01:58:57,780 --> 01:59:02,639 they know they have for rooms and so we're going to hear mark x amount 1464 01:59:01,199 --> 01:59:07,860 of dollars based on historical perspective of what we spent on 1465 01:59:04,860 --> 01:59:11,460 equipment in vehicles and um and it's going to go to facilities 1466 01:59:09,179 --> 01:59:15,659 too so our Engineers are not saying well that's we got 500 000 left to work with 1467 01:59:13,320 --> 01:59:20,880 this year I have a steady stream and then we'll allocate the money to those 1468 01:59:18,119 --> 01:59:24,599 different areas on a spreadsheet that will look and make sense to everybody so 1469 01:59:23,400 --> 01:59:27,780 I don't want us to buy eight Vehicles one year and one another just doesn't 1470 01:59:26,520 --> 01:59:31,380 make any sense from a financial perspective 1471 01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:35,179 so those are things we're working on I don't know if the chair has any comments 1472 01:59:35,820 --> 01:59:43,619 we'll need to Echo director says you're extremely proud to 1473 01:59:41,820 --> 01:59:48,060 have been named one of the best places to work in Southwest Michigan 1474 01:59:45,900 --> 01:59:55,260 wow and as he points out you know does that 1475 01:59:51,380 --> 01:59:59,159 reputation kind of precedes him but he's done a very good job of carrying it on 1476 01:59:57,119 --> 02:00:03,119 also so we're going to go down and accept 1477 02:00:01,320 --> 02:00:10,619 that award along with some other Employers in the Tri-County area 1478 02:00:06,960 --> 02:00:14,580 um and we're proud of it and we hope that we 1479 02:00:12,900 --> 02:00:23,280 do things the cause our staff to 1480 02:00:19,380 --> 02:00:26,599 continue to appreciate working for us we're very proud of it 1481 02:00:27,560 --> 02:00:35,040 I just want to thank John and Joe for helping me out we've you get five inches 1482 02:00:32,639 --> 02:00:40,020 of rain in two days I get a lot of calls and so does Joe so he's met me on a few 1483 02:00:37,800 --> 02:00:43,440 projects and you know a few boards and different things like that and John 1484 02:00:41,219 --> 02:00:47,820 you've been very good to work with helping me get things through the county 1485 02:00:45,599 --> 02:00:51,360 so I appreciate it and I'll be glad if you get any questions happy to answer 1486 02:00:49,260 --> 02:00:55,020 those okay if you have questions well first thing is I'd like to tell you 1487 02:00:53,040 --> 02:00:59,099 congratulations on that award that is an amazing achievement 1488 02:00:56,580 --> 02:01:02,340 the signs I think that is genius I've seen them up in other places like you 1489 02:01:01,020 --> 02:01:06,659 say people know where the money comes from them I think that's a great idea 1490 02:01:05,340 --> 02:01:11,159 um the one question I had or two questions 17 18 townships have a millage 1491 02:01:09,480 --> 02:01:16,460 which one does not uh uh 1492 02:01:13,020 --> 02:01:16,460 one south of Hanford 1493 02:01:16,699 --> 02:01:24,360 okay that would be the one okay the other question was you said you're 1494 02:01:22,860 --> 02:01:30,000 getting two new plow trucks out of how many how many plow trucks are there well 1495 02:01:26,040 --> 02:01:35,580 51. 51 and that will be cut down okay we have 37 plow routes 1496 02:01:31,920 --> 02:01:42,599 uh We've met and we need to keep six backups frame three and uh Lawrence one 1497 02:01:40,080 --> 02:01:45,960 in Bangor one in Bloomingdale um so when they fail you can't just tell 1498 02:01:44,520 --> 02:01:49,440 them that the president well guess what our plow truck stops they don't care 1499 02:01:47,520 --> 02:01:52,560 about that right go get it plowed so we're going to be cutting it down and 1500 02:01:50,760 --> 02:01:57,119 that includes the new deliveries so you can actually get trucks now or is there 1501 02:01:54,179 --> 02:02:01,679 how long yeah they're coming in I can't tell you lead time yet okay 1502 02:01:59,219 --> 02:02:05,280 um so they they came in one day well one came out of money one 1503 02:02:03,960 --> 02:02:08,699 came on Tuesday so I think they're right off the snuff I'm speaking we're having 1504 02:02:06,840 --> 02:02:12,900 a hard time getting piped for Culver so that is causing us a lot of problems 1505 02:02:11,460 --> 02:02:18,540 right thanks 1506 02:02:14,060 --> 02:02:23,420 when is that um Awards uh tomorrow night at six at Harbor 1507 02:02:20,099 --> 02:02:23,420 Harbor Shores in 1508 02:02:24,659 --> 02:02:32,400 six oh that's mingle time six of six fifteen then the awards are from 6 15 I 1509 02:02:29,940 --> 02:02:39,719 think to 7 30. who's the outfit uh Market okay 1510 02:02:37,199 --> 02:02:45,800 some people have kind of seen it pop up let's get more prevalent not just 1511 02:02:41,460 --> 02:02:45,800 invariance kind of going Tri-County area 1512 02:02:48,500 --> 02:02:53,659 thanks for your time thanks thank you 1513 02:02:53,940 --> 02:03:02,159 and I can only think that with the history of earning this award 1514 02:02:59,360 --> 02:03:07,440 and with the job that you two are doing now it's going to be nothing but Awards 1515 02:03:04,619 --> 02:03:13,340 as we go into the future I'd rather have money 1516 02:03:09,440 --> 02:03:18,060 and he sounds like me yeah once again congratulations putting 1517 02:03:16,440 --> 02:03:22,860 the hand of Paving contractor or certificate of achievement 1518 02:03:21,000 --> 02:03:27,619 I think they were you know we really can't building asphalt spreader with 1519 02:03:25,500 --> 02:03:27,619 this 1520 02:03:30,300 --> 02:03:38,040 okay uh administrative Affairs Gail you've got a couple I see okay yes the 1521 02:03:35,699 --> 02:03:45,000 Brownfield Redevelopment Authority I move that we reappoint Zach Morris 1522 02:03:41,219 --> 02:03:51,659 or moved and supported conversation all those in favor say yes yes yes no 1523 02:03:48,239 --> 02:03:57,780 motion carries and then uh the realtor appointment of Katie strollhour also to 1524 02:03:55,020 --> 02:04:00,780 Brownfield Redevelopment Authority conversation 1525 02:04:03,239 --> 02:04:10,699 follow us in favor say yes yes yes suppose no motion caring thank you 1526 02:04:11,280 --> 02:04:17,480 all right uh looks like we're going on to Mr Godfrey 1527 02:04:23,119 --> 02:04:31,380 yeah no it isn't it's our exception for the chief drain 1528 02:04:28,860 --> 02:04:34,280 commissioner and 1529 02:04:38,340 --> 02:04:45,000 move to accept it as written there we go there it is 1530 02:04:42,480 --> 02:04:48,480 Court moved into part of the conversation 1531 02:04:46,320 --> 02:04:52,280 all those in favor say yes yes yes suppose now 1532 02:04:50,340 --> 02:04:57,840 suppose you Karen and then uh 1533 02:04:54,540 --> 02:05:04,920 see we've already talked about that and hurt anything in public transit 1534 02:05:00,900 --> 02:05:09,840 don't like anything exactly when we are in public comment and public 1535 02:05:07,260 --> 02:05:18,560 comments public comments for last time 1536 02:05:13,920 --> 02:05:18,560 I would come have to ask that people 1537 02:05:18,659 --> 02:05:23,900 Madam Chairman's update I really don't have anything today 1538 02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:30,260 yeah board correspondence and no reason for a closed session 1539 02:05:36,020 --> 02:05:39,440 yes yes 1540 02:05:40,040 --> 02:05:43,400 thank you everyone