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just Rec are we recording we're not
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on later okay all
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9 please arise I Adam

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Henderson we thank you for today thank
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be I pray that you would today even if
James declares or that you would give us

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wisdom God it says that if anyone lacks
anybody needs wisdom Lord that we should

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ask you and so we ask for your wisdom
God I thank you that Unity I thank you

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that peace Lord Jesus is here in this
place and so I pray that this meeting

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would just be blessed by you Lord thank
you for vanan County thank you for all

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the wonderful things that you're doing
here and Lord we just ask that you would

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continue the good work in which you've
started here in this place I pray that

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you would bless this time in Jesus name
we pray amen amen thanks all righted to

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the US flag
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the United States

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ofer stands
na indivisible withy andice for

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hon I Al to Texas one

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state indivisible thank you you may

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General
announcements do we have any general

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announcements I would like to say that
the the debris removal along County

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Roads began last week and it's in
process and naturally when you start a

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project like that you start getting rain
which delays it so we delay it was delay

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two days last week because the rain and
it's uh they were planning to work all

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weekend and
we had rain weekend so they're out there

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working right now until the next
rainstorm comes so are there any other

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announcements uh are there any public
comments did anybody sign up for public

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comments no right uh we'll move to item
number four consent agenda consent

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agenda are considered routine items by
the commiss cour enacted by one motion

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uh there will be no separate discussion
on these items unless the County judge

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or commissioner request them to be
removed theend so any items that need to

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be pulled or discussed
separately if not is there a motion to

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approve the consent
agenda motion is there a second second

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all right uh all those in favor say I I
propos like sign motion passes item

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number
five discuss consider approving the B

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County Historical commission annual
report this report was submitted by uh

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uh O
Allen went through a 10 your binder is

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there any
discussion they have been doing quite a

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bit in in uh the county and I'm very
proud of it they typically get an award

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from the historical commission for their
work and they have been very involved in

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getting historical items posted and
available so is there a motion to accept

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the vanzan county approve the vanan
County Historical commiss

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annual
report I'll make

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motion Commission report all right
motion to maor

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second second all right any discuss all
say I allos like sign motion passes item

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number six discuss to consider adoption
of a revised Fire Marshall Fe schedule

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we'll have our fire marshal Kevin Palmer
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present so um if you look at the feed I
submitted as the packet the major

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changes that I had on there is the first
one where it has type of permit that

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first item used to say covered buildings
but not all we know that not all

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commercial projects for covered
buildings I just put I just renamed it

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as a new construction permit but that
would cover best facilities solar panel

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facilities all that kind of good stuff
that basically anything that is

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commercial uh will does have to go
through some type of permanent process

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through the commissioner cour and
through my office specifically and

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that's for the health and safety of
vanac County um even if it's on private

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property once you are inviting the
general public onto your private

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property for commercial
purposes we we have a duty to make sure

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it's a safe place to go to uh so that's
one of the big changes another change

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that we had was down on the last page of
our on-site sewage facility fees was one

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that was added on there that was kind of
a it been kind of an Unwritten rule that

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people were paying but I don't like
Unwritten stuff I like stuff to be

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written and that's the ossf modification
so in that situation you have a you have

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a SE tank the tank itself doesn't need
need to be moved it's it's working fine

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but for one reason or another you're
adding sprinklers to the Aerobic System

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or you're moving them they do have to
submit a permit through T purq through

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our office to permit and inspect those
modifications so I'm just adding the fee

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for that as well those those are the the
major changes add this to this

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particular
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modification at 200 then you have a
reinspect Fe for 200 yes sir so a

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reinspect fee would be if um this is for
a a new installation so you you put in a

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permit for an installation we gave you
an authorization for construction you

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scheduled a final inspection we went and
conducted the final inspection and you

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failed that final inspection and so now
we have to reschedule you have to fix

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all the things and we have to come back
and reinspect the system that fail the

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first time okay and the late fee for
maintenance contract what is that yes

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sir so at some point uh when I when I
finish my strategic plan on how to how

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to get things into compliance so there
are a lot of people that do not pay do

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not have yearly monthly maintenance
contracts on their on their aerobic

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septic systems a lot um but right now I
don't have the manpower to go out and

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Chase all those people down so basically
at some point I will submit my plan to

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the Commissioner's Court and I will
recommend a a a large race period

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basically it's time hey I understand not
ignorant to the fact that you probably

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haven't had a contract for five years
and you haven't gotten caught uh but

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that time is over so you know whether
it's six months or whatever that grace

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period is we're going to say hey just
come get it right and it's just we'll

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just charge you the
$30 but after that um when we catch you

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not only are there going to be citations
but there's going to be late fees added

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for every month that you don't have a
monthly Lance contract so it's just I

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want people to do the right thing I will
give every I will give

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everyone the most opportunity possible
to come and do the right thing but if I

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had to do a forcing action to make them
do the right thing um then I'm going to

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do that through monetary means and so
that would be the that would be the Lely

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for that so that's per month yes sir
that would be per month for every month

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that you are behind you have not
submitted your uh monthly maintenance

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contract and that maintenance contract
is state law yes

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sir nothing nothing on this me uh I
didn't make any of these numbers up

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there is a a guide put out by State Fire
Marshall's office on you know what's

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appropriate what you can charge for what
you can't charge for um I'm very much

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just do the right thing and uh so no I I
don't make any of this stuff I didn't

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make any of these numbers up she's all
done from research and looking at other

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counties uh we are on the cheaper side
to most most counties surounding us and

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I'm okay with that because I think these
are fair

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numbers and what steps will you use to
publish this information to the to the

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public so that's why I say um it'll be a
very strategic plan because I can't just

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use one medium I can't just use the
commissioner sport I've got I've got to

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catch all the V at County so I'm going
to I'm going to rely on people like

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grandon Sun newspaper
cam Herold I'm going to use social media

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um I'm going to use mailings because we
have a list with for example on the

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mainten contracts we know who's overdue
we have addresses so we'll do mailings

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um I'll try to do you know you know
possibly uh interviews on the radio I

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will use as many outlets as possible to
reach as many people because I want to

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reach all of B County I don't want
ignorance to be a reason well I didn't I

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don't I didn't know can't be a reason
anymore so I would use every uh media a

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medium that I can to get the word out
when that time

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comes now I encourage people now if you
hear it

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now let's let's start getting right now
because when that time comes it'll come

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quick it'll come
FAS so I have a question on the the new

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installs on
$200 fee for the application and then to

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come back if they fail the $200 yes sir
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I guess what I'm asking is is if that
fails if that system failed is that

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person that paid that installer to do it
is he responsible for that 200 because I

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don't see that being
so it's kind of like the tariffs what

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gets passed on the consumer uh the the
the fee is paid by the installer and and

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I will say uh we're not looking for
Ticky tack stuff if it's if it's little

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things that can be corrected on the spot
we don't say Hey you failed I'm coming

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back some other time we just we just fix
it or if it if it's even the same day

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we'll come back we're talking about like
it was aous you were trying you were

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trying to get away
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just that's going be on the installer
yeah on the installer it goes to the

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installer home homeowner should have a
contract yes sir and that contract

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should be set in stone do that contract
contractor sir so you're just trying to

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hold contractor that's good

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and the same on the maintenance fee
contracts the maintenance fee contracts

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are not being paid because that
contractor is likely not operating in

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this County any
longer I've had a mix bag so I have you

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know um gone and try to make contact
with around 10 people that didn't have

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monthly maintenance contract anywhere
from a year till they haven't had it for

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10 years um some of it was they had a
they had someone that was doing the the

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the maintenance that person that
person's installer left and they had a

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hard time finding another installer and
they basically just kind of threw their

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hands up in the area uh I have come to
to the place where someone new has moved

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in and they were talking to their
neighbor about you know how much you

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know about their monthly maintenance
installer and the neighbor said man I

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haven't paid that thing in 10 years
you're a dummy for paying that and they

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they just stopped paying so some people
know that they're supposed to have I say

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half people know that at least half
people know that they're supposed to

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have it and because there's no
enforcement action they're just not

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paying and there is but there is a good
group of people that are that move from

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outside of Texas they've never had a
septic tank they have no idea how a

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septic tank works they buy a house and
they were never told maybe it's in the

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fine print but they don't they don't
really they I believe they truly didn't

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know they're supposed Contra that's
that'll be the the part where I I get

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the word out to everybody um that I'm
building that so to my knowledge I have

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the ability to the ability to wave some
of these feeds and

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so uh right now that's what my office is
doing so if someone comes into my office

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right now Michelle is not going to
charge them a $50 Fe she's just thank

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you for coming back in and getting right
and she's just charging for the

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$30 right but when that time comes I
want the ability I want to have the

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ability

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charge that's those are the changes on
okay on the occupancy permes yes sir you

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got all commercial or public uh
occupancies yes sir U is there is there

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also a requirement for permanent for
residential no sir no no residential

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okay so the only thing I will say about
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um we are still we still have to follow
state law and you know state law

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requires that residents be built in
compliance with like the National

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Electric Code National Building Codes
but we don't what we don't have to as a

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county and for that we can basically
take their word for it that they're

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doing the right thing um I'm not a big
fan of of enforcing residential stuff

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it's single family homes in fact even
the state of Texas is been a big fan of

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because the newest additions of sub fire
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had a required Sprinklers and all new
new new construction homes and the Texas

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Supreme Court actually ruled against
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um question but commercial public do
have requirements for sprink systems

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right some of them yes depends on the
occupancy so my job as a fire marshal if

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you come in and you said that you need a
fire inspection one of the first

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questions I ask is okay what kind of
business are you uh is it an assembly is

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it a daycare is it a Mercantile what is
it uh because in the in the fire codes

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there are General requirements things
that everybody has to have like an

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emergency action plan and then the next
step is when in the code you go to that

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section that governs assemblies dayc
carees mertile all that kind of good

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stuff and it goes by it goes by
occupancy so depending on what type of

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occupancy you are that tells me uh what
you have to have for fire uh Fire and

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Life Safety so no not all not all new
commercial built properties have to have

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sprink systems okay and uh you have here
service stations and other flamable

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liquid or oxidized storage facilities no
sir that gas stations that that would be

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an example yes sir okay because if
you're going to have to permit all of

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them you going need more help I okay
you're not going to be able to do that

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with the St you have right now so I
guess we'll be hearing about it budget

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time huh yes sir so budget time I plan
on putting a packet together that is is

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um Justified as much as possible so
y'all see my monthly report you see that

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this office at the end of the year we
have a budget surplus now I understand

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that it's not a zero sum game I'm never
going to ask this work for all of the

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monies that this office brings in
because there are different departments

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that they do not have a budget circul at
the end of the year but I can look at if

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I bring on two more people for example
and I'm able to enforce these things

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that exponentially increases the amount
of what we're bringing in so essentially

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I'm I'm paying my staff is you know
paying their salary and making money for

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the county and I will I will do my best
to quantify that and put that into

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numbers where I submit my packet during
budget

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time because I I personally have it
loged in to a business in vanac county

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that has properly permitted REM not
one okay uh and going back to the

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permits uh on it what on the new
construction permit what what did you

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what did you base the fee schedule off
of did you use somebody else some other

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counties or some other uh no sir that
the actual fees itself were the same

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fees that this this this court had had
adopted last year and it was it was in

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line with what other counties our size
charge uh and I wanted to put new

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construction because this process is
supposed to start before you ever move a

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single piece of equipment onto that
property anything so before you move put

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a shovel before you do anything on that
property the that process is supposed to

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start to this court and my office uh I'm
supposed to review the plans and make

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sure that everything is up to code so
that we're not playing catchup like we

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are on on some some places today where
they're halfway three4 way done with the

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construction and I'm just now getting
the plans and getting a chance to review

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them and finding out that they're not en
code and so it helps that sometimes the

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businesses don't think but it helps them
too because it's a lot cheaper to put a

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sprinkler system in
a sprinkler or put in a lot of these

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Fire and Life safety protection devices
when you're first building it as opposed

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to when you've already got the walls and
the ceilings and everything else up and

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then you got to come back through and
tear it all down because you got to put

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sprinklers in it so it also helps the
business as

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well okay and uh a lot of these permits
are they uh like the the fixed pipe

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system and the fire alarm system are
they onetime permits or do they have

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renewed every year or how does that work
uh so they uh it's on a case-by casee

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scenario so the way that I I class the
way that the fire code and the way that

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I look at occupancies I classify them as
low risk medium risk or high risk all

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highrisk facilities will be uh renewed
annually and I will get eyes on a good

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example on that is so that like fixed
pipe system sprinkler systems that could

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be covered if they're new construction
permit but for example just last week

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Martin's Mill High School in the old gym
put in a new fire alarm system that I

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had they submitted plans for I approved
the plans they installed the new fire

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alarm system and I went and inspected it
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where okay and I would consider schools
schools are considered high risk so that

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is something that I go reinspect every
year okay

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judge I think on this that we we've got
a lot of questions on this and I would I

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would be in favor of doing a workshop on
this so that because this this is a lot

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of questions that needs to be asked and
thought about a little further on our

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part yes sir so I will say that we we
have one that is uh at run by fiscal

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year so there was one that that was
approved by this court last budget cycle

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so there is already a fe scheduled and
there has been one for some time the

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only thing that I'm adding is I changed
the name of on the top on the top left

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where I think it says like covered
buildings or something like that I just

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changed that name to two constru new
construction so that it um it covers all

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commercial properties and I added the um
the

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modification
modification but I I I am welcome to

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having a workshop it's just all the
questions about that so far most of the

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questions that I've gotten those fees
are already in place what we're talking

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about is enforcing it yes sir that's
what we're talking about yes

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sir now there there is a good word is
starting to get out that there's a new

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fire marshal and there's a new
commissioner court and so I we are

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getting a lot more permits to our office
and we're charging these fees already

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um so we're starting you get out so
that's phase one just usually when

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there's a person that does random dropin
they called business owners no other

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business owners they're like d Fire
Marshal came today better get stuff

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right so you know the word of mouth is
already getting out there that's phase

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one I will come back when I have the
resources and availability properly

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enforce go out and do the

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rest would you be opposed
commissioner to uh adopting this uh

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since there's not really any substantive
changes and then still having a workshop

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uh to to get people aware of

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it I think we could do that I just think
that if if this is all the changes

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that's being changed on it you know I
think we could do that but but I think

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that uh this could be an education the
workshop agreed for for a lot other

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people absolutely
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welome question

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absolutely all right is there a
motion I'll make a motion to uh adopt

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the revised Fire Marshall fee
schedule is there a second I'll second

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it is there any further
discussion all those in favor say I I

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oppose like time motion passes item
number uh seven discuss consider a

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Community Education period for outdoor
burning yes sir so I want to start off

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with uh at first I was I was working and
um I actually thought about requesting a

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burn band and so I got a lot of funny
looks because it's you know February

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March and uh the weather is on that but
I want to bring people's attention that

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weather is the not is not the only
indicator that I look at for a burn band

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I look at drought index but I also look
at uh the number of fires so I hope that

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that you got my packet and that you
looked at those numbers so

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and Holly at the Sheriff's Office ran a
report for me and uh because I had to

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have this submitted on on March 6 I had
to run it from January 1st to March 6 so

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that was 65
days in at 65 days we had 146 grass

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fires that fire departments had to
respond to 146 to 65 days and when you

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break that down you can look at when the
good weather was so for example from 14

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to 25 January we had 49 fires in 12
days February 1st and February 8th we

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had 20 fires in 8 days and then February
21st to March 2nd we had 63 fires in 10

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days those are 63 fires that the fire
department had to respond to were they

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were but were they 63 they were out of
control out those are out of control

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because they because they got called on
me one time it wasn't out of control yes

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sir so I so I scrubbed the list there's
actually two missing from this list that

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uh they came in as structure fires
because there were grass fires that were

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started got out of control and burned
someone else's property down

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so these are not these are not um brush
piles in someone's backyard these are

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they got out of control the fire
department had to respond and had had

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the fire department not put it out it
would have caused Great

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Hab well there seems to be a lack of
Common Sense we're losing it as

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a as a people you know that's and you
know when we do burn bands we punish

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people with common sense if we're not
careful because of people that don't

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have common
sense you know so that that brings me to

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the next three things that I submitted I
submitted the Texas administrative

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code I submitted an outdoor burning in
Texas that was published by The tcq Who

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is the administrator of the the
administrative code and this is a guide

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to outdoor burning and i' I'd like you
to look that this was revised this isn't

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anything new this isn't within the last
six months

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this guide was published in February of
2015 so it's been around for a decade

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and then I also had I also submitted a a
small some some questions to Bernie so

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what a lot of people don't know is that
the state of Texas tcq in

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particular is trying to get rid of most
outdoor burning in Texas they do have

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they do have some
exemptions um and so

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um it does not include the main burning
of on-site property was such as Fallen

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limbs branches or leaves or other ways
from routine property cleanup activities

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nor does nor does it include prescribed
burning or burning following clearing or

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ecological
restoration um if you if you want to

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read through this guide it's pretty
lengthy I I I

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do um recommend that people read through
it but I'll kind of give you the the

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cliff notes on it is that is that
basically these huge brush piles that

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are two stories tall and 300 ft in
diameter we're not supposed to burn

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those those are actually supposed to be
pered by

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TC um what was the size again I was
giving I was exaggerating that was that

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was a bad how big is how big is it so
the six foot in diameter that can be

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considered a warming

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fire uh and again this isn't this isn't
something that I'm I'm making up um this

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is this is state law that's already out
there and for good reason because just

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like you said Texas we have to realize
that you know we talked about it I've

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burned my whole life I have uh anytime
that there's a storm I'm doing clean up

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of my property I've cut down a tree
whatever put into a burn pile and I burn

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it I can also tell you I've never had to
call the fire department and I I for

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sure never L got out of control and burn
my neighbor shed down like I had just

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two weeks ago that's happened those
those those are a lot of fires and you

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know the fire departments they do not
have a budget surplus the taxes that

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this County that the county get gives
the money to the fire departments just

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look at any average Gap grass fire count
the number of firefighters count the

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number of trucks the hoses the equipment
the water add all that up and see if if

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your tax is paid for your for your
mistake it doesn't and so again I'm not

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asking for anything out of the ordinary
for vanz County to do anything different

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I'm just asking us to follow state law
and I'm asking it because those are a

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lot of numbers there's a lot of
resources and it was wet but what people

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don't understand is that when there's
wet

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ground even if the ground is wet but the
grass that's 6 in tall is dead and it's

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got leaves and dead branches
with within one hour after it stops

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raining it's it's just as flammable as
it was when it's August and it's 100

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deges

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outside did you find these Firs were
were they a lot of uh maybe new

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residents or or uh like for instance you
know I I had one called on me the other

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day it was under control yes sir but it
it was a brush fire but you

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know a lot of these people in this
agricultural Community they have the

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equipment and it's not control they get
called on yes sir but then you may have

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all these new people come in you know
they started they don't have to if it

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gets out they don't have anything to to
to put it out or anything yeah so some

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some of the big things that I look for
and that's in the administrative code

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and in that burning guide is there's
some general guidelines is that it can

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never be left unattended uh you can't
burn at night and you got to have a

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water source those those are things that
you have to have um and those things

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aren't happening so to answer your
question whether they're new residents

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old residents I would say it's a mixed
bag I would say that the the the

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difference in this county is the growth
so where in the past they kind of had

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yeah maybe they they only owned 20 acres
but outside of their 20 acres was a

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th000 Acres of nothing when now there's
houses there uh because we're also

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talking about uh I've gotten quite a few
calls where people are new residents and

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these new residents they they don't get
to sit out back porch and and enjoy a

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nice evening because their their
neighbor Burns 24 hours a

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day weard and the smoke comes onto their
back porch so I kind of go back to you

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know the health and safety code with the
batement and things like that I'm not

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trying to infringe on on your individual
rights but when your individual rights

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start to infringe on your neighbors that
that's a problem I agree with that so I

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mean I would think if if I had if I had
recently moved to Van County and bought

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a nice property and I wanted to sit out
on the back porch and enjoy a nice

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evening and I couldn't because I would
get I was getting smoked out every

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single night I wouldn't be happy about
that so I think you know when I'm

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thinking about it and I don't have the
answer I can't answer your question

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straight up it's just my opinion this is
my opinion my opinion is is

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that we we are still rule rule but more
people are coming in there's new houses

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being built all the time so where when
people for the last 10 15 20 30 years

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they've been burning no problem at all
now they've got neighbors they've got

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property that that that they've got
fencing up that's getting destroyed

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they've got sheds that weren't there
that are getting burned up and they're

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doing things like they've always done
it's just that their environment has

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changed does that kind of make sense sir
so so what you're saying is is our

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choice of country living in life is no
longer there it's diminishing we don't

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have that Freedom anymore so I am a
reasonable man so I'm not I'm not

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um I'm not out chasing smoke so I'm
driving around like I'm not looking for

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ples of smoke to go put out Mitch Curtis
or R Brandon's fire that he's got in his

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backyard I'm responding to these numbers
right here are where they were out of

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control the fire department had to
respond and the fire department had to

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put it out because the person that
started it no longer had that means so I

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would I wouldn't say that that our
rights as a rural community are being

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infringed upon you can still burn as
long as you're doing the right things

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six foot six foot on the honor system
because again I'm not out there chasing

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smoke you can continue to do it and talk
to your neighbors what I'm asking a lot

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of you do make sure that you once that
smoke leaves your property and gets on

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someone
else's just look at it from from my side

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of it I've just had some fence RADS
cleared off and I've got piles bigger

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than 6t they're not 300t long and
they're not two story building yes sir

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but the only way I can afford to get rid
of it is burn it yes sir but the Pils

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are bigger than six foot you know you
got a you got a dead tree at the same I

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mean you got a big at the same time I
have the equipment to take care of yes

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sir where probably most people does
I 100% agree with you

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and it's kind of like where my personal
opinion there's plenty of laws in the

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books that I don't I don't agree with
right it's just my job as a fire marshal

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whether it's popular or unpopular to
inform people what what state law is U

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because I will say that I basically
have I have four options when I show up

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and you've destroyed say someone else's
property let's go with that I basically

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have four options
I can uh you know with talking with you

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know a district attorney or somebody say
these people have been neighbors for

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years they've done it to each other they
would like to enter enter into a a civil

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agreement and they're going to basically
they're going to pay everything off once

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I leave it's a civil
matter uh the lowest citation I can give

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is for illegal burning if I issue it
it's a it's a classy misdemeanor much

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like a speeding ticket
but if it is a large burning pile that

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has
couches mattresses oil like a bunch of

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bad stuff in it and I feel like I need
to call tcq that's a b um there's also

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the charge if you destroy somebody
else's property of criminal mischief and

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criminal mischief ranges everywhere from
a Class C Mis meter to felony depending

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on how much the the property was valued
at when it was destroyed I also have r

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because one of the statutes of arson is
you intentionally set a fire and you

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recklessly destroy the property of
another and that's a thir degree filon I

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don't I'm not out I'm not I don't want
to make filings out of our citizens

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so this apply to like the solar form too
because I think we're 75 out there 773

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can we uh yeah I'm gathering that data
now I'm having a for some reason I'm

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00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:32,400
having some difficulty working with h on
on getting address but yes yes sir it

416
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,400
does apply to them as

417
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:44,160
well so the agenda item says discuss and
consider a Community Education period

418
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:49,400
for outdoor burning What specifically
are you requesting or suggesting or so I

419
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:53,839
would like to put these three documents
that I submitted the Texas

420
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:58,400
administrative code the um outdoor
burning and Texas field operations guide

421
00:35:56,599 --> 00:36:02,480
and the little dos and for outdoor
burning I'd like to put these on the

422
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:08,160
County website so that people have e
easy access to

423
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:14,040
them I'll also be publishing them on my
Facebook page so people have them that

424
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:17,970
way and I'll also reach out to the local
newspapers

425
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:23,800
count I can put a link in there
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426
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:28,720
something okay we need a motion to that
I I think they're they're I don't think

427
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:33,680
it's necessary I don't think we need
you have permission because that's your

428
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:40,280
job absolutely all it is is
education again I know I know it's not

429
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:47,960
popular um but my job isn't to be
popular um but I am a fair men so I

430
00:36:44,359 --> 00:36:52,640
didn't write 165 tickets last year I did
a lot of Education lot of education so I

431
00:36:51,359 --> 00:36:56,880
just want people to learn from their
mistakes and do the right thing we don't

432
00:36:55,079 --> 00:37:00,200
have the opportunity to be subjective in
it though when you I when there's a law

433
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:04,000
involved I mean it's like you don't you
don't have the ability to be subjective

434
00:37:01,839 --> 00:37:08,960
where you can evaluate each one no sir
it depends on it depends on the scope of

435
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:13,400
the there is Officer discretion and all
that you know depending on on the things

436
00:37:11,079 --> 00:37:16,280
but I have called Tonda and you know
make sure I'm not talking in an echo

437
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:20,520
chamber I don't I don't like making
those decisions on my own so I do call

438
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:26,359
somebody hey this is what I've got what
are your thoughts and we come up with a

439
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:33,359
solution so you think if you drove up on
a guy that seemed to be he he's dug a

440
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:37,720
40ft hole with a bank all the way around
it and he's burning yeah you know you

441
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:43,760
can tell that he's trying to do the
right thing well he's not by law because

442
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:48,800
if it's six foot more than six foot he's
not doing the right thing according to

443
00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:52,960
law but according to you know Common
Sense you'd say he's probably doing the

444
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:56,160
right thing here but then there's a
difference between a guy that's piled up

445
00:37:54,400 --> 00:38:01,760
everything in his house out in his front
yard

446
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:06,599
but is that is it possible to be that
subjective that's where in a litigation

447
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:10,800
Nation like we are is it possible like I
mean you understand what I'm saying I do

448
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:16,440
understand what you're saying I would
say yes um I would say yes that you have

449
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:21,880
that discretion because uh the the a big
part of criminal law is

450
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:26,200
intent so you you can you get the
ability to to determine the intent of

451
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:29,520
the individual that was that was out
there and what they were they were

452
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:34,400
trying to
accomplish well it's the same thing with

453
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:38,400
the free on that we talked about earlier
and everything that I do in my office I

454
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:42,079
will always start out with an
educational period I want to give

455
00:38:40,359 --> 00:38:46,440
everybody the benefit of the doubt I
want to educate the public because there

456
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:51,079
are genuinely people that I walk up on
that genuinely did not know that those

457
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:55,359
things existed and I know that they
didn't so I want I want to part of the

458
00:38:53,680 --> 00:39:00,280
fire marshal one of the pillars of the
fire Marshall's office is public

459
00:38:57,839 --> 00:39:05,280
education so that's what I always start
out is education but Bobby knows Bobby

460
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:10,160
knows and he's got brush piled up
everywhere yeah I got it now he knows

461
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:13,960
I'm burn it it's just difficult it's
difficult to walk that that line you

462
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:18,440
know what I'm saying because if his
neighbor calls in Smoke is running

463
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:23,079
across their that becomes a nuisance
smoke

464
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:27,680
y see where gets real tricky for us to
say I you know the more you know it's

465
00:39:25,720 --> 00:39:31,040
like our our Liberty ends like I can
swing my fist anywhere I want to but if

466
00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:35,839
it gets in the Cliff's nose over here
then I've lost that's that's the extent

467
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:41,560
of my Liberty you know and so did your
Liberty um yeah and then something else

468
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:45,520
happens but um so it's difficult for us
as a nation I just want to make it clear

469
00:39:43,359 --> 00:39:49,000
because our County's changed so much you
know my neighbor burned his barn down

470
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:53,400
three times when I was a kid like you
know his own his own barn but our

471
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:59,680
neighbor our county has changed so much
and the older people that live in our

472
00:39:55,319 --> 00:40:02,400
County are not up to speed yes sir um
and they've Lo they feel like they've

473
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:06,359
lost their Liberty including me I'm an
older person in in the community but

474
00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:10,160
also understand that you know I had a
neighbor the other day that just moved

475
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:13,280
in and he put a board up and took a 30
out six and started doing target

476
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:16,520
practice with houses all around like he
thought the board you know so I

477
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:20,480
understand that there's there's a
balance and everything but most of the

478
00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:25,280
time we're out of balance on everything
like I'm a less government type person

479
00:40:23,119 --> 00:40:30,040
you know I I want less government but it
seems like the more Lawless we are the

480
00:40:27,079 --> 00:40:35,240
more government we have to have how does
this affect burning pastures that's

481
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:39,599
that's part of Agriculture
management and there's a there's a

482
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:44,000
section on in the guide it talks about
when you're doing that where you have to

483
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:47,480
put fire Brakes in and all that kind of
good

484
00:40:45,079 --> 00:40:54,680
stuff but when I say fire break that's
using your your your tractor with see

485
00:40:51,839 --> 00:40:59,119
bricks work no no no no no no talking
about a fire break where you're taking

486
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:02,119
it down taking taking it
you can't burn your neighbor

487
00:41:02,319 --> 00:41:07,280
pass okay so we're not decid anything
today we're just talking about you

488
00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:11,280
trying to educate the community yeah
because originally I my original

489
00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:15,800
introduction when I when I when I saw
these when I saw these numbers was

490
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:19,800
that's in the future that will be an
indicator where I will request a burn

491
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:25,040
man because it's gotten out of control
well we had a beautiful day on a Friday

492
00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:30,160
and and people set fires and sat
Saturday the wind blew 56 mil hour and

493
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:34,920
that's when you had 40 fires prob surely
nobody started fire Saturday no but the

494
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:37,760
ones that were burning Friday got out
because that wind picked up and blew

495
00:41:36,359 --> 00:41:40,680
them out of wherever they were at yeah
there was there was one that I went to

496
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:45,760
where there was property construction
where they had H someone that started

497
00:41:43,319 --> 00:41:51,640
the fire on the Monday thought that it
was out and then on Saturday when the

498
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:57,079
winds picked back up it caught it back
up and went back over

499
00:41:54,319 --> 00:42:02,319
here okay I'm good with the education
thank thank you very much sir I

500
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:05,440
appreciate you apprciate all right
there's no action on that item item

501
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:09,680
number eight discuss consider
authorizing the County judge to sign a

502
00:42:07,079 --> 00:42:15,119
resolution to apply for Indigent defense
grant program propose you unaware

503
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:22,520
Indigent defense is something that the
that the county re required to provide

504
00:42:18,839 --> 00:42:26,559
to uh people who get arrested and cannot
afford it's part of the Miranda Rights

505
00:42:24,119 --> 00:42:31,240
if uh you cannot afford attorney one
will be appointed Ed for you well that's

506
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:37,000
what we pay for that's what you pay for
and uh to the tune of a little over

507
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:42,800
$600,000 a year for this County and uh
this is a grant that uh gives us just a

508
00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:48,720
little bit back and uh the auditor's
office goes through a great amount of

509
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:56,160
recordkeeping in order to do this grant
so that we can get roughly 40 to $50,000

510
00:42:52,400 --> 00:43:00,319
back so um and it's in there is there a
is there a motion to approve allowing

511
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:06,480
the County judge to sign a resolution to
apply for the Indigent defense grant

512
00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:13,720
program so moved is there
second second is there a further

513
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:19,920
discussion all those in favor say I
I oppose like sign motion passes item

514
00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:24,599
number nine discuss consider RFQ for
engineering study for the current jail

515
00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:30,760
facility one of the uh things that we
need to do uh in order to move move

516
00:43:27,359 --> 00:43:35,119
forward with the jail is to actually see
what the condition of our current jail

517
00:43:33,359 --> 00:43:41,839
is that was built in
1992 and the engineering study uh as

518
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:46,440
opposed to structural analysis like we
did on the other building but the

519
00:43:44,119 --> 00:43:51,880
engineering study needs to go in to look
at the mechanical the plumbing

520
00:43:48,319 --> 00:43:57,079
electrical security Plumbing is is
primary one well they're actually going

521
00:43:53,240 --> 00:44:03,200
to scope the pipes and uh it's a pretty
intensive you know to see if it's uh

522
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:08,960
what the condition is if it's uh worth
trying to add to it or if it's not and

523
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:14,680
so what what I'm requesting is that we
allow us to go out for a uh RFQ for

524
00:44:12,839 --> 00:44:22,160
engineering firms and I have several
names so that we can submit it to to uh

525
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:28,119
to to RFQ as a request for a
quote and I would propose that the uh

526
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:33,960
the jail committee be the one to to
working

527
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:36,680
this I'll motion okay I'll second all
right motion made second is there any

528
00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:43,440
further
discussion all those in favor say I I

529
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:48,520
all those opposed like sign all right
motion passes item number 10 discuss to

530
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:55,960
consider authorizing the sale of
fireworks for S jeno day which is April

531
00:44:51,200 --> 00:45:03,000
21st 2025 and I assume I have Marshall
still here didn't talk to me about that

532
00:44:59,359 --> 00:45:10,640
uh we have to actually approve the sale
of fireworks for Sano day and this is a

533
00:45:07,359 --> 00:45:10,640
resolution that does

534
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:17,520
that
you I guess I should have asked you

535
00:45:15,359 --> 00:45:24,000
before I put it on I thought I did maybe
I did I don't remember I I did the one

536
00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:31,880
yeah Texas which I didn't really see
any in in March for Texas I think the I

537
00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:36,960
don't think the the word got out very
very well on the text of I see a lot of

538
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:41,559
sales fireworks I see a lot of fireworks
stands open

539
00:45:39,079 --> 00:45:45,920
so well I think they need time to order
and all the rest of that business before

540
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:50,160
so well they they know the you know they
know all the dates the state has set all

541
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:54,480
the dates for for when when they can and
cannot

542
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:57,760
sell the de so is there a motion to
authorize sell fireworks extend your s

543
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:02,480
day
April 21st 2025 or there's a rain sir

544
00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:08,599
there's a
motion I'd make that motion authorized

545
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:16,280
to S the Firework s and is there a
second second all right uh any further

546
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:21,200
discussion all in favor say I I oos by
time motion passes item number 11

547
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:25,520
discuss consider appointing jet plon to
the net RMA board of directors to

548
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:31,440
represent vanzan County Chad is our
current representative and he uh for the

549
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:36,079
last two years and he needs to be uh
reappointed and I talked to him uh asked

550
00:46:34,119 --> 00:46:41,400
him if he would be willing to serve
again he said yes I motion second all

551
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:46,559
right motion to made second all those
any further discussion all those in

552
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:52,520
favor say iOS like sign motion passes is
there a motion to adj can I say

553
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:58,400
something first no can you or may may I
you may about number nine I know we've

554
00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:03,000
moved past it
oh go

555
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:08,200
ahead we're doing an engineering study
on our current jail correct well we're

556
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:14,480
requesting for a quote to get some
engineers then we to see if it's

557
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:20,880
feasable to to work on it
correct so I think that's the right

558
00:47:18,319 --> 00:47:27,000
decision I just think it was should have
been done I

559
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:30,480
know before we did all the other stuff I
just want to state that I think we're

560
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:36,920
out of order on a lot of things and some
and it's you know I know we're trying to

561
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:40,880
recover and get and get our stuff
together but this probably should have

562
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:47,040
been done a long time
ago is there was there that's my

563
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:52,040
statement your was yeah on the
adjournment yes sir who who who motioned

564
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:56,440
to adjourn Brandon did now second all
right and Bobby and uh before you rudely

565
00:47:54,160 --> 00:48:02,040
interrupted yes sir yeah okay all those
in favor say I like time

566
00:48:02,839 --> 00:48:10,839
motion no you but I can I have
theability of being but I

567
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:23,200
won all right we start the workshop in
five minutes on economic development

568
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:01,119
work
well I

569
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:06,319
was oh yes sir yes I want to make sure
you understand because I understand as a

570
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,319
commissioner

571
00:49:09,240 --> 00:49:14,119
sit then I'm here I'm just thinking I
got

572
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,720
big here