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>>Mayor Pachota: all right.

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Let's call this meeting to

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order.

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MADAM Clerk, a roll call,

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please.

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>>Kevin Engelke: here.

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>>Rachel Frank: here.

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>>Rick Howard: here.

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>>Ron Smith: here.

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>>Lloyd Weed: here.

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>>Vice Mayor Boldt: here.

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>>Mayor Pachota: and I'm here as

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well.

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We will stand for the invocation

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and today's pledge can be led by

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captain hill.

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>>Kelly Michaels: lord father,

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we pray for our mayor, city

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council and all who serve our

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community.

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Strengthen us with wisdom and

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grace for the work that we do

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every day.

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MAY our duties be carried out

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with respect and care, keeping

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our hearts pure as we work

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towards the best interests of

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all of our residents.

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Amen.

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[Pledge of allegiance]

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>>Mayor Pachota: okay.

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Let's have some fun.

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If we could get the police chief

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to join me up front, and we will

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start with james browning and

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family.

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>> good morning, everybody.

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This is a great day for the

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police department.

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We get to have three promotions

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that we're celebrating.

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First, I just want to thank city

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council for kind of helping us

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over the recent months to

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reorganize our department,

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creating some new positions as

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well and helping us to move

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forward.

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thank you for that and for

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celebrating these moments with

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us.

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The supervisors will be taking

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the oath of office.

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When you start as a police

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officer, you take this oath and

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during these milestones where

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they take on new

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responsibilities, it's a good

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opportunity to publicly renew

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that oath.

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That oath is to uphold the

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constitution and the laws of the

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state of florida and the trust

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that the community puts in them.

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Then we have pinning of the

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badge, which is part of the

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ceremony where, in this case,

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the badge elevates them to a new

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role.

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If anyone has a business, you

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know that your line-level

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supervisors are some of the most

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James browning here is moving

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into that critical role.

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He will be a role model for the

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A lot of them you see here.

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taking on this new

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his wife jessica is here, into

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this moment because these

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achievements are not their own.

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It's shared achievements because

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their family is with them during

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all the hard times and all the

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good times as well.

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We're glad to have her here with

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Let's go ahead and get started.

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>> I james browning, do solemnly

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swear, that I will support,

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protect, and defend the

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constitution and government of

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the united states and of the

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state of florida.

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That I am duly qualified to hold

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my position under the

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constitution of the state.

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That I will well and faithfully

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perform the duties of sergeant

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of which I am now about to

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>> when we swear in the new

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officers, I usually don't make

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them say anything.

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As a supervisor, I feel like

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it's only appropriate.

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>> thank you, chief.

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First, I want to say I'm

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grateful and thankful for GOD

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for giving me this point.

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Also, I want to thank my wife --

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>> -- my family, my kids who

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have been my support system and

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have sacrificed so much.

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Thank you guys.

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Thank you, chief, and the

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command staff for entrusting me

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with this new role and position.

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I don't take it lightly.

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The officers, my past

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supervisors, colleagues, thank

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you for getting me to this

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point.

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You guys have assisted me and

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helped me out so much.

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I really appreciate you.

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I'm thankful for this

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opportunity.

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>>Mayor Pachota: next, we'll get

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matt sauchinitz and family.

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>> this is another great

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promotion -- thank you.

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With the pinning of this badge,

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now we're moving to a higher

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level of authority and

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responsibility.

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Not only is he still being the

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model for the officers, but he's

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also running a division.

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He will be in charge of the

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patrol division as he takes on

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this new role as captain.

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So he will also be developing

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supervisors now.

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The sergeants and lieutenants

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that work under his command.

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And he's certainly shown over

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the years that he's prepared for

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this job with his dedication and

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his service.

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I've known matt a long time.

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Pretty cool for me, too, and

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jill.

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I might need a hug.

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Of course, jill has been there

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through all the difficult times

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and all the good times.

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I'm glad to see you here as

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well.

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Let's go ahead and do this.

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>> I, matthew sauchinitz, do

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solemnly swear that I will

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support, protect, and defend,

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the constitution and government

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of the united states and of the

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state of florida, that I am duly

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qualified to hold my position

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under the constitution of the

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state.

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That I will well and faithfully

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perform the duties of captain on

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which I am now about to enter,

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so help me GOD.

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>> now the pinning of the badge.

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>> all right, matt.

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It's your turn.

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>> first, thank you for

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everybody being here today,

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supporting me and my family in

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this ceremony, along with the

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other people getting promoted.

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it really means a lot to feel

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that support.

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First and foremost, I need to

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thank my beautiful wife here.

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Every law enforcement officer

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that comes up here, the first

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person they recognize and

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support is their wife, their

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husband, their significant

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other.

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And there is a reason for that.

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Law enforcement can be

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challenging.

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We have our ups and downs.

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I've been doing this for 18

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years.

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My beautiful wife has been by my

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side the whole time.

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She's been there to support me,

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listen to me, be with me.

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Thank you.

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I love you, sweetie.

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Next, you two.

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There is a common expression

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that some things in life are

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bigger than you.

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It's true.

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Thank you for allowing me to

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understand that and believe.

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Mom and I are so proud of you.

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We love you.

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I love both of you.

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My family, my parents and my

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brother, who are sitting here

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and many of you here today,

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thank you for the support.

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Some of you would find this hard

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to believe.

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It is true.

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I was the wild child growing up.

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I put my parents through quite a

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bit.

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Right after 2001, the terrorist

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attacks, I decided to join the

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military.

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I joined the marines.

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24 years ago I was sitting at my

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dinner table and I told my mom

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and my dad, I said I'm going to

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join the marines.

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It was 2003.

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There was a lot going on in the

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My mom looked at me and said,

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"you know that is the hardest

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one, right?"

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I said, yes, I know.

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That was it.

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That's all she said.

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As mother and father, they

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supported me for everything I

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went through.

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When I came back to the world,

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they made sure that I was

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standing upright and supported

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me into the next path.

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Thank you and I love you.

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To my brother, hardest working

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guy I've ever met.

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Thank you for being that mentor

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and showing me what real work

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ethic is.

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Thank you.

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Finally, everybody in the back,

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you know, sworn, non-sworn,

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civilian, not just the police

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department, it's the city.

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We have so many great people

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that work here.

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Been privileged to see that for

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18 years of everybody who really

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puts in time every day to make

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sure that the city is running to

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the best we can.

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service.

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I really appreciate that.

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Thank you all.

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Have a good day.

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[Applause]

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>>Mayor Pachota: all right.

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That's it for promotional

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ceremonies today.

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[Laughter]

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If we could get alicia white to

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come up with the kids.

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Louis, you're going to be

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postponed to NOVEMBER 3rd when

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i'm not in office anymore.

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>> all right.

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Got to keep the mayor in line

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sometimes.

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It's not an easy job.

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For this next pinning and oath

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of office, again, I want to

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thank council, because this is a

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position that kind of went away

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from our department for a while.

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And it was much-needed, so I

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appreciate the opportunity to

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bring it back.

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Deputy chief white is certainly

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the right person for the job.

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This role certainly has the

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highest level of trust at our

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agency, but not only that, with

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the city as well being that it's

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with the police department.

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He's not only making sure our

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mission and vision is

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implemented, he now has a hand

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in shaping that.

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Very important role and he's

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proven time and time again that

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he's prepared for it through his

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efforts and dedication.

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Alicia, thank you for being

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here.

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Again, I know all the phone

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calls that I've made to him at

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night that you probably had to

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hear and all the good times, the

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bad times throughout his career

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and the sacrifices that he's

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made that you've stood behind

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him.

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Thank you for being there.

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Let's go ahead and get started.

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>> I, louis white, do solemnly

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swear that I will support,

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protect, and defend, the

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constitution and government of

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the united states and of the

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state of florida, that I am duly

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qualified to hold my position

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under the constitution of the

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state and that I will well and

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faithfully perform the duties of

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deputy chief of which I am now

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about to enter, so help me GOD.

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[Applause]

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>> the mayor is going to help

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out with the pinning today.

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He secretly fired him I think 22

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times.

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2200 times.

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So this is redemption.

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[Applause]

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Congratulations.

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>> thank you to MR. Mayor for

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pinning me.

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Chief, for your dedication to

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kind of mentoring me in this

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role, preparing me with this

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role and trusting me with the

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role.

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To the city manager, appreciate

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it and venice city council for

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voting yes on the staffing

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changes and some of the things

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we have forthcoming.

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To my wife, I appreciate it.

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Thank you for being with me all

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these years.

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I know the late-night calls from

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lieutenant danaman often two,

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three times after 2 A.M., gets

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stressful.

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Usually she boots me to the

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couch after the second call.

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I do appreciate it.

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To my kids for understanding

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when daddy walks away with a

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phone call from the chief, from

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the mayor or whoever it MAY be.

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Love you guys.

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To the staff in the back,

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officers, I think the most

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important thing of the staffing

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study that came out of it in had

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my mind was we're running lean,

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right?

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You guys feel that day in and

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day out.

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What the staffing study vendors

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came to us with was, it's your

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effort, your daily effort and

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dedication, really, that make

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sure we uphold the standards

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that the citizens expect, that

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the council expects and that the

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chief expects.

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So hold that high.

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Hold your chin high as we move

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forward.

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There could be budget

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constraints coming up with the

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property tax amendment, but

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we'll shift stuff around, work

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lean if we have to, and we'll

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get it accomplished.

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Just trust us to move forward

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with that.

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That's all I have.

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I do appreciate the chief again

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for kind of mentoring me in this

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role and getting me ready and

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prepped for the future.

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[Applause]

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>>Mayor Pachota: with that, we

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will come back at 30 after.

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We'll go take photos out front

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[Sounding gavel]

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>>Mayor Pachota: okay.

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We are back.

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We are now on to audience

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participation.

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Audience participation will be

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limited to one hour for the

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first portion.

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MADAM Clerk, how many do you

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have signed up?

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>>Kelly Michaels: six.

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>>Mayor Pachota: six.

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Okay.

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Speakers are not to address

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council members individually.

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Any person making personal,

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00:20:42,178 --> 00:20:43,578
impertinent or slanderous

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00:20:43,578 --> 00:20:44,977
remarks or becomes disorderly

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MAY be barred from the meeting.

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This is an opportunity to

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provide the city council with

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your comments.

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City council will not respond to

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any questions or comments during

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this time per the city code.

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A member of city staff will

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follow up with you if it's

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appropriate.

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Any documents shown during

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audience participation or part

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of the meeting must be given to

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the clerk for the official

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record.

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MADAM Clerk, our first speaker.

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>>Kelly Michaels: our first

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speaker is steve ogle thorpe.

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He has five minutes.

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>>Mayor Pachota: good morning

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and welcome, sir.

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>> good morning, MR. Mayor,

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council members, and city of

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venice staff.

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My name is steve oglethorpe.

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I live here in venice.

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I believe that city employees

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are misleading the city council

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and the public about intentions

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for the airport.

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I believe this based on recent

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information presented by city

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employees.

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In a nutshell, they are telling

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the council and public one thing

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while telling the federal

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aviation administration the

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opposite.

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On JUNE 23rd, james clinch,

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the venice city manager, led a

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presentation to the council.

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That presentation included

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several statements.

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First, that venice is not

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working on increasing or

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decreasing operations at the

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airport.

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In the presentation the word

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"not" is in bold capitals.

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Second, venice is not working on

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what he called the t word.

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It is the airport administration

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building.

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In the presentation, the word

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"not" is in bold capitals.

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Yet in the JULY faa discussion

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briefing by nicholas dew mass,

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the airport director for the

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city, there is discussion of,

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first, a quote, new terminal

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project and control room

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timeline.

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Second, a budget for venice to

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hire five full-time staff to

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manage increased traffic.

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Third, planning to fund this

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through, quote, protecting and

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expanding the airport's existing

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revenue base.

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Fourth, quote, growth driven

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revenue through, quote, flight

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training expansion, corporate

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and business aviation, increased

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transit operations and new

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aviation business development.

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Fifth, a quote 29.8 percent

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projected revenue growth over

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the period fiscal year '26 to

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fiscal year '29.

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Finally, of a, quote, new

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terminal building, a two-story

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hurricane hardened terminal

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administration building at a

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projected cost of 7 to 9

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million.

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These recent presentations are

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directly contradictory.

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The public is being told one

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thing.

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The faa another.

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One position or the other is

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intentionally deceptive.

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MR. Mayor and council members, I

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request that the city end any

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and all current applications,

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negotiations, or plans underway

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with the federal aviation

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administration.

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Further, I request that venice

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scrap all vnc master planning to

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date and begin anew with a

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process characterized by honest

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and open communication among all

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stakeholders.

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Thank you very much.

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>>Kelly Michaels: the next

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speaker is amber jacob.

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She has five minutes.

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>>Mayor Pachota: good morning

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00:24:47,578 --> 00:24:49,578
and welcome.

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00:24:49,844 --> 00:24:50,544
>> good morning.

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00:24:50,544 --> 00:24:52,544
Good morning, all.

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My name is amber jacob.

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I am with my favorite race

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00:24:55,513 --> 00:24:57,513
events.

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We are a local company nonprofit

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00:25:01,546 --> 00:25:04,412
that produces 5Ks, 10Ks and

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was planned to introduce our

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very first half marathon this

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year.

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00:25:09,345 --> 00:25:10,645
Our largest event, megalodon

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00:25:10,645 --> 00:25:11,611
weekend, is held the first

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00:25:11,611 --> 00:25:13,611
weekend in MARCH.

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00:25:14,678 --> 00:25:16,178
On topic with the airport,

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00:25:16,178 --> 00:25:17,744
unfortunately, last spring we

567
00:25:17,744 --> 00:25:20,478
were sent an e-mail that said we

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could move forward with

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00:25:21,678 --> 00:25:22,878
permitting our events but there

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00:25:22,878 --> 00:25:25,780
was no guarantee that we would

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00:25:25,780 --> 00:25:27,579
be allowed to have our event.

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00:25:27,579 --> 00:25:29,145
That being said, we have about

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1200 people that take place in

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our megalodon weekend.

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00:25:32,790 --> 00:25:35,146
We bring in a lot of revenue.

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We bring in a lot of volunteers.

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00:25:36,712 --> 00:25:39,245
We include the entire community

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00:25:39,245 --> 00:25:41,212
in our events and we give back a

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ton of money to the community.

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We could not launch our event

581
00:25:44,511 --> 00:25:46,477
because we can't take thousands

582
00:25:46,477 --> 00:25:48,110
of dollars from people and then

583
00:25:48,110 --> 00:25:51,780
tell them, hey, sorry, by the

584
00:25:51,780 --> 00:25:53,611
way, the event is not happening.

585
00:25:53,611 --> 00:25:54,911
Luckily, darlene culpepper has

586
00:25:54,911 --> 00:25:55,911
worked tirelessly to get us kind

587
00:25:55,911 --> 00:25:57,544
of an answer.

588
00:25:57,544 --> 00:25:58,944
And we were just told maybe two

589
00:25:58,944 --> 00:26:00,513
weeks ago that we could move

590
00:26:00,513 --> 00:26:02,479
forward with permitting and

591
00:26:02,479 --> 00:26:05,479
housing our events at the

592
00:26:06,512 --> 00:26:08,912
airport ground through spring.

593
00:26:10,450 --> 00:26:11,812
I would love for myself, for our

594
00:26:11,812 --> 00:26:14,112
nonprofits and for all the other

595
00:26:14,112 --> 00:26:17,378
event holders in the town that

596
00:26:17,378 --> 00:26:18,778
there's got to be a more

597
00:26:18,778 --> 00:26:19,911
concrete date or there's got to

598
00:26:19,911 --> 00:26:21,444
be an answer somewhere.

599
00:26:21,444 --> 00:26:24,844
We keep being told that someone

600
00:26:24,844 --> 00:26:26,178
in the faa has a paper on her

601
00:26:26,178 --> 00:26:27,811
desk and that that answer is

602
00:26:27,811 --> 00:26:29,978
there but keeps getting piled

603
00:26:29,978 --> 00:26:31,744
under other more important

604
00:26:31,744 --> 00:26:33,178
things and events at the airport

605
00:26:33,178 --> 00:26:35,460
ground are just not important,

606
00:26:35,460 --> 00:26:36,790
so why figure out that date.

607
00:26:36,790 --> 00:26:37,346
Well, they are important because

608
00:26:37,346 --> 00:26:39,513
we all rely on that.

609
00:26:39,513 --> 00:26:41,179
You know, there is a ton of

610
00:26:41,179 --> 00:26:41,379
events that take place out

611
00:26:41,379 --> 00:26:42,945
there.

612
00:26:42,945 --> 00:26:43,712
I really think that someone has

613
00:26:43,712 --> 00:26:45,712
an answer.

614
00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:46,880
So can we work on getting a more

615
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,479
concrete date?

616
00:26:48,479 --> 00:26:51,770
Can we house our events out at

617
00:26:51,770 --> 00:26:53,477
the airport ground through 2027

618
00:26:54,577 --> 00:26:55,211
or can we house them out there

619
00:26:55,211 --> 00:26:56,644
through 2029?

620
00:26:56,644 --> 00:26:58,844
Again, we were supposed to be

621
00:26:58,844 --> 00:27:00,344
including and introducing a half

622
00:27:00,344 --> 00:27:02,110
marathon this year, and that

623
00:27:02,110 --> 00:27:02,345
would have brought in a ton of

624
00:27:02,345 --> 00:27:04,345
revenue.

625
00:27:04,545 --> 00:27:06,278
We've been working closely with

626
00:27:06,278 --> 00:27:08,246
the gasparilla distance classic,

627
00:27:08,246 --> 00:27:09,712
if anyone is familiar with that.

628
00:27:09,712 --> 00:27:10,979
They bring in millions of

629
00:27:10,979 --> 00:27:13,460
dollars to the tampa area, and

630
00:27:13,460 --> 00:27:15,979
that was our hope for venice was

631
00:27:15,979 --> 00:27:17,379
to be a smaller version of the

632
00:27:17,379 --> 00:27:19,779
gasparilla distance classic and

633
00:27:20,460 --> 00:27:21,580
really grow that event to be a

634
00:27:21,580 --> 00:27:23,980
destination event for venice.

635
00:27:25,745 --> 00:27:27,178
So to have an answer of how long

636
00:27:27,178 --> 00:27:29,245
will we have to produce our

637
00:27:29,245 --> 00:27:31,110
events out at the airport ground

638
00:27:31,110 --> 00:27:33,780
would really help a lot of us

639
00:27:33,780 --> 00:27:35,511
event holders going forward with

640
00:27:35,511 --> 00:27:36,812
planning, but also not only

641
00:27:36,812 --> 00:27:40,712
having a date of how long we

642
00:27:40,712 --> 00:27:42,279
have to house our events out

643
00:27:42,279 --> 00:27:42,946
there, but there's a ton of

644
00:27:42,946 --> 00:27:44,612
property out there.

645
00:27:44,612 --> 00:27:47,120
Is the possibility of sharing

646
00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:50,120
that property even an option?

647
00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:51,513
Can faa keep part of it but also

648
00:27:51,513 --> 00:27:53,946
still allow the city of venice

649
00:27:53,946 --> 00:27:55,479
to have part of that property to

650
00:27:55,479 --> 00:27:57,479
continue with events?

651
00:27:57,678 --> 00:28:01,645
I mean, I'm not an architect and

652
00:28:01,645 --> 00:28:04,178
I'm not a surveyor, but having

653
00:28:04,178 --> 00:28:05,745
our events out there can

654
00:28:05,745 --> 00:28:06,911
visually see there is a ton of

655
00:28:06,911 --> 00:28:08,445
property left untouched.

656
00:28:08,445 --> 00:28:09,978
Could we please get a date and

657
00:28:09,978 --> 00:28:12,145
could we even maybe talk about

658
00:28:12,145 --> 00:28:12,911
sharing that property?

659
00:28:12,911 --> 00:28:13,712
That would be incredible.

660
00:28:13,712 --> 00:28:14,946
Thank you for your time.

661
00:28:14,946 --> 00:28:15,646
>>Mayor Pachota: thank you for

662
00:28:15,646 --> 00:28:17,379
your comments.

663
00:28:17,379 --> 00:28:18,346
MADAM Clerk, the next speaker.

664
00:28:18,346 --> 00:28:20,581
>>Kelly Michaels: the next

665
00:28:20,581 --> 00:28:22,981
speaker is bryce ferguson.

666
00:28:28,790 --> 00:28:28,846
He has five minutes.

667
00:28:28,846 --> 00:28:29,512
>>Mayor Pachota: good morning

668
00:28:29,512 --> 00:28:30,110
and welcome.

669
00:28:30,110 --> 00:28:32,110
>> good morning.

670
00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:34,178
Thank you, MR. Mayor and

671
00:28:34,178 --> 00:28:37,450
council, members of city staff.

672
00:28:37,450 --> 00:28:38,445
When I was a little boy, nine

673
00:28:38,445 --> 00:28:40,311
years old, one of the things I

674
00:28:40,311 --> 00:28:41,611
looked forward to most on

675
00:28:41,611 --> 00:28:43,378
weekends was meeting with my dad

676
00:28:43,378 --> 00:28:45,578
out at the venice airport and

677
00:28:45,578 --> 00:28:47,112
having a little cessna 172 and

678
00:28:47,112 --> 00:28:48,112
taking to the skies.

679
00:28:48,112 --> 00:28:49,979
Wasn't his plane.

680
00:28:49,979 --> 00:28:51,120
One he borrowed, rented,

681
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:51,346
whatever the circumstances were,

682
00:28:51,346 --> 00:28:53,346
I don't know.

683
00:28:53,646 --> 00:28:55,546
I was a little kid and I got to

684
00:28:55,546 --> 00:28:57,646
go flying and I loved it.

685
00:28:57,646 --> 00:28:58,946
I would spend all week at venice

686
00:28:58,946 --> 00:29:00,513
elementary and go up in the air.

687
00:29:00,513 --> 00:29:02,212
Fly all over the area.

688
00:29:02,212 --> 00:29:04,645
Head south, go to the keys,

689
00:29:04,645 --> 00:29:04,911
north, to my grandma's house in

690
00:29:04,911 --> 00:29:06,378
lake city.

691
00:29:06,378 --> 00:29:08,911
We always had an adventure.

692
00:29:08,911 --> 00:29:11,110
This year, this spring, I took

693
00:29:11,110 --> 00:29:12,845
my dad for his final flight as

694
00:29:12,845 --> 00:29:14,645
his cremated remains were spread

695
00:29:14,645 --> 00:29:14,912
in the gulf three miles

696
00:29:14,912 --> 00:29:16,845
offshore.

697
00:29:16,845 --> 00:29:17,812
I tell you this because I want

698
00:29:17,812 --> 00:29:19,779
you to understand where I'm

699
00:29:19,779 --> 00:29:21,113
coming from, someone for whom

700
00:29:21,113 --> 00:29:23,412
this airport has always been

701
00:29:23,412 --> 00:29:23,812
very vital in my life as an

702
00:29:23,812 --> 00:29:25,812
airport.

703
00:29:27,246 --> 00:29:28,446
But when I look at the vision

704
00:29:28,446 --> 00:29:29,979
emblazoned on the back of the

705
00:29:29,979 --> 00:29:32,713
wall here in chambers, that

706
00:29:32,713 --> 00:29:34,413
airport ground is so much more

707
00:29:34,413 --> 00:29:35,779
than just aviation.

708
00:29:35,779 --> 00:29:37,578
And I understand, and this has

709
00:29:37,578 --> 00:29:39,411
been a public discourse for a

710
00:29:39,411 --> 00:29:41,912
while now, and a lot of back and

711
00:29:41,912 --> 00:29:42,279
forth and had many things to

712
00:29:42,279 --> 00:29:43,678
navigate.

713
00:29:43,678 --> 00:29:45,312
I as a member of our community

714
00:29:45,312 --> 00:29:46,878
appreciate your hard work and

715
00:29:46,878 --> 00:29:49,279
diligent effort on making sure

716
00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:50,212
we retain our vibrance and our

717
00:29:50,212 --> 00:29:52,450
historic value and understand

718
00:29:52,450 --> 00:29:54,414
that this is a historic year at

719
00:29:54,414 --> 00:29:56,714
a hundred years of being a

720
00:29:56,714 --> 00:29:58,246
municipality, the change has

721
00:29:58,246 --> 00:29:58,679
become inevitable through that

722
00:29:58,679 --> 00:29:59,446
process.

723
00:29:59,446 --> 00:30:00,646
But I am asking that you

724
00:30:00,646 --> 00:30:02,946
preserve a few of the great

725
00:30:02,946 --> 00:30:05,580
things about our community as

726
00:30:05,580 --> 00:30:06,460
you navigate all these

727
00:30:06,460 --> 00:30:07,513
complications.

728
00:30:07,513 --> 00:30:10,345
As previously mentioned, the use

729
00:30:10,345 --> 00:30:11,978
of the fairgrounds is so much

730
00:30:11,978 --> 00:30:13,945
more than a place for an event.

731
00:30:13,945 --> 00:30:15,278
These are places where annual

732
00:30:15,278 --> 00:30:16,912
events have happened over the

733
00:30:16,912 --> 00:30:18,445
years, where young people get

734
00:30:18,445 --> 00:30:19,645
volunteer hours, where

735
00:30:19,645 --> 00:30:22,450
nonprofits make enough revenue

736
00:30:22,178 --> 00:30:23,278
to continue to exist for the

737
00:30:23,278 --> 00:30:24,912
next 12 months.

738
00:30:24,912 --> 00:30:26,479
Where folks like myself take

739
00:30:26,479 --> 00:30:27,779
kids to the italian feast to

740
00:30:27,779 --> 00:30:29,446
have their first experiences of

741
00:30:29,446 --> 00:30:32,380
what a festival can be like,

742
00:30:32,380 --> 00:30:34,446
where I, as a kid, got to go

743
00:30:34,446 --> 00:30:37,130
spend mom and dad's $10 on

744
00:30:37,130 --> 00:30:39,546
tickets to ride rides and play

745
00:30:39,546 --> 00:30:41,513
carnival games, where the chalk

746
00:30:41,513 --> 00:30:42,512
festival helps local venice

747
00:30:42,512 --> 00:30:43,678
nokomis rotary raise funds for

748
00:30:43,678 --> 00:30:44,245
all of the great mission work

749
00:30:44,245 --> 00:30:46,245
they do.

750
00:30:46,678 --> 00:30:48,445
and so many other organizations.

751
00:30:48,445 --> 00:30:50,745
Public records show that between

752
00:30:50,745 --> 00:30:52,545
80 and 100 thousand members of

753
00:30:52,545 --> 00:30:54,778
our community and surrounding

754
00:30:54,778 --> 00:30:56,412
communities participate in these

755
00:30:56,412 --> 00:30:58,412
events every year.

756
00:30:58,445 --> 00:30:59,479
Once there are unknowns,

757
00:30:59,479 --> 00:31:01,913
unknowing of the future where

758
00:31:01,913 --> 00:31:02,846
these events could be held, will

759
00:31:02,846 --> 00:31:04,846
they be held?

760
00:31:05,413 --> 00:31:08,460
Next year, three years from now?

761
00:31:08,460 --> 00:31:08,813
Whenever there is uncertainty,

762
00:31:08,813 --> 00:31:10,413
participation drops.

763
00:31:10,413 --> 00:31:11,679
People can't plan their

764
00:31:11,679 --> 00:31:13,213
vacations and travels around the

765
00:31:13,213 --> 00:31:13,913
great events if they don't know

766
00:31:13,913 --> 00:31:14,680
they'll happen.

767
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,680
Clarity is kindness.

768
00:31:16,979 --> 00:31:18,445
I ask that as soon as you can,

769
00:31:18,445 --> 00:31:19,512
if we can have clarity on how we

770
00:31:19,512 --> 00:31:21,712
move forward as a community and

771
00:31:21,712 --> 00:31:23,450
hope that you will all continue

772
00:31:23,450 --> 00:31:24,479
to seek preservation of the

773
00:31:24,479 --> 00:31:26,779
grounds for the purposes that

774
00:31:26,779 --> 00:31:28,145
are much bigger than aviation

775
00:31:28,145 --> 00:31:29,279
use of the airport.

776
00:31:29,279 --> 00:31:32,279
It is publicly available that

777
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,613
there are provisions within the

778
00:31:34,613 --> 00:31:36,214
faa handbook published FEBRUARY

779
00:31:36,214 --> 00:31:37,314
of this year to allow for

780
00:31:37,314 --> 00:31:39,800
community and municipal airports

781
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:40,146
to use their spaces for

782
00:31:40,146 --> 00:31:41,680
non-aviation purposes.

783
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:42,346
I know that you all are doing

784
00:31:42,346 --> 00:31:43,347
your due diligence.

785
00:31:43,347 --> 00:31:44,513
I appreciate it.

786
00:31:44,513 --> 00:31:46,790
Just hope that you guys can

787
00:31:46,790 --> 00:31:47,679
continue to find ways forward

788
00:31:47,679 --> 00:31:49,779
that will continue to include

789
00:31:49,779 --> 00:31:50,450
that vibrant portion of our

790
00:31:50,450 --> 00:31:51,212
community.

791
00:31:51,212 --> 00:31:51,445
Thank you for your time this

792
00:31:51,445 --> 00:31:52,780
morning.

793
00:31:52,780 --> 00:31:53,178
>>Mayor Pachota: thank you for

794
00:31:53,178 --> 00:31:54,478
your comments.

795
00:31:54,478 --> 00:31:56,878
>>Kelly Michaels: the next

796
00:31:57,345 --> 00:31:59,745
speaker is bonnie kivlan.

797
00:32:14,613 --> 00:32:15,246
She has five minutes.

798
00:32:15,246 --> 00:32:15,846
>>Mayor Pachota: good morning

799
00:32:15,846 --> 00:32:16,646
and welcome.

800
00:32:16,646 --> 00:32:18,646
>> good morning.

801
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,460
Thank you for allowing me to

802
00:32:21,460 --> 00:32:23,460
speak.

803
00:32:23,112 --> 00:32:26,120
My issue is the proposal that

804
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,120
was written by city manager

805
00:32:29,445 --> 00:32:31,679
clinch, and I think also airport

806
00:32:31,679 --> 00:32:33,545
director dumas.

807
00:32:33,545 --> 00:32:34,412
I'm not sure how he pronounces

808
00:32:34,412 --> 00:32:35,879
his name.

809
00:32:35,879 --> 00:32:38,879
The gentleman who preceded me,

810
00:32:39,130 --> 00:32:41,647
who was the first speaker, very

811
00:32:41,647 --> 00:32:44,380
clearly listed the reasons why

812
00:32:44,380 --> 00:32:47,130
we're having a problem with the

813
00:32:47,130 --> 00:32:50,130
proposal that was written by

814
00:32:51,460 --> 00:32:52,380
these two gentlemen.

815
00:32:52,380 --> 00:32:54,146
Interestingly, it was not

816
00:32:54,146 --> 00:32:57,746
brought up at a council meeting

817
00:32:58,780 --> 00:32:59,912
on JUNE 9, which would have at

818
00:32:59,912 --> 00:33:02,312
least given the community

819
00:33:05,945 --> 00:33:07,279
knowledge of what was going on.

820
00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:08,579
It's feeling from the

821
00:33:08,579 --> 00:33:10,112
neighborhood almost being

822
00:33:10,112 --> 00:33:12,112
totally dishonest.

823
00:33:13,179 --> 00:33:14,179
I've been involved or I've been

824
00:33:14,179 --> 00:33:15,813
active in going to the meetings

825
00:33:15,813 --> 00:33:18,580
that are talking about the

826
00:33:18,580 --> 00:33:19,680
future of the airport and

827
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,800
planning for the airport.

828
00:33:22,810 --> 00:33:25,681
And each of those meetings, we

829
00:33:25,813 --> 00:33:28,314
were told that a remote tower,

830
00:33:28,314 --> 00:33:29,345
if anything, would be

831
00:33:29,345 --> 00:33:31,345
administration building, it

832
00:33:31,945 --> 00:33:32,745
would basically be technology in

833
00:33:32,745 --> 00:33:34,745
an administration building.

834
00:33:35,979 --> 00:33:37,645
This proposal is asking for a

835
00:33:37,645 --> 00:33:40,645
two-story tower, and we were

836
00:33:41,645 --> 00:33:43,212
also told that the tower was

837
00:33:43,212 --> 00:33:45,279
supposed to be mainly for

838
00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:49,470
safety, that it was not going to

839
00:33:49,470 --> 00:33:52,470
bring in increased jet activity.

840
00:33:52,579 --> 00:33:54,180
This proposal is saying that it

841
00:33:54,180 --> 00:33:58,130
is -- the building or the tower

842
00:33:58,130 --> 00:34:00,780
would be seven to eight million

843
00:34:00,780 --> 00:34:04,279
dollars or more, and it would be

844
00:34:04,279 --> 00:34:07,812
paid for by more activity from

845
00:34:07,812 --> 00:34:09,879
private jets and businesses.

846
00:34:09,879 --> 00:34:12,279
Interestingly, this proposal is

847
00:34:12,279 --> 00:34:15,812
out there right now in AUGUST,

848
00:34:15,812 --> 00:34:17,879
which you all know is before the

849
00:34:17,879 --> 00:34:20,879
snowbirds come down, the people

850
00:34:23,446 --> 00:34:25,314
who live near the airport.

851
00:34:25,314 --> 00:34:26,746
My main goal is not about just

852
00:34:26,746 --> 00:34:28,280
the people who live near the

853
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,280
airport.

854
00:34:31,346 --> 00:34:34,547
I live near the airport and I

855
00:34:34,547 --> 00:34:35,612
see from NOVEMBER through MARCH,

856
00:34:35,612 --> 00:34:36,945
it's just lines of cars.

857
00:34:36,945 --> 00:34:38,446
It's about the beach.

858
00:34:38,446 --> 00:34:40,790
It's about sharky's.

859
00:34:40,790 --> 00:34:42,479
It's about our weather.

860
00:34:43,412 --> 00:34:45,412
It's about venice.

861
00:34:47,578 --> 00:34:51,178
I can't understand how more jet

862
00:34:51,846 --> 00:34:55,446
activity at the airport is going

863
00:34:56,413 --> 00:34:58,813
to benefit venice, florida.

864
00:34:59,714 --> 00:34:59,980
Let me just see if there's

865
00:34:59,980 --> 00:35:01,980
anything.

866
00:35:01,980 --> 00:35:04,147
I maybe have a minute.

867
00:35:04,147 --> 00:35:05,646
The proposal is exactly the

868
00:35:05,646 --> 00:35:06,647
opposite of what we've been told

869
00:35:06,647 --> 00:35:08,647
at the meetings.

870
00:35:11,412 --> 00:35:13,145
Exactly the opposite.

871
00:35:13,145 --> 00:35:16,212
We were told that it was for

872
00:35:16,212 --> 00:35:17,179
safety, that it would be maybe

873
00:35:17,179 --> 00:35:18,612
two years out.

874
00:35:18,612 --> 00:35:20,212
This is right now, and they have

875
00:35:20,212 --> 00:35:24,412
written it and they have done it

876
00:35:24,445 --> 00:35:24,781
at a time when nobody is here to

877
00:35:24,781 --> 00:35:26,781
notice.

878
00:35:27,446 --> 00:35:29,514
And I'm asking for this proposal

879
00:35:29,514 --> 00:35:31,914
to be withdrawn immediately

880
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,800
before it gets put on a schedule

881
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:35,314
for meetings in fall.

882
00:35:35,314 --> 00:35:36,460
Thank you.

883
00:35:36,460 --> 00:35:36,547
>>Mayor Pachota: thank you for

884
00:35:36,547 --> 00:35:38,446
your comments.

885
00:35:38,446 --> 00:35:39,680
MADAM Clerk, the next speaker.

886
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,800
>>Kelly Michaels: the next

887
00:35:43,112 --> 00:35:46,712
speaker is brett spangler and he

888
00:35:49,879 --> 00:35:50,912
has five minutes.

889
00:35:50,912 --> 00:35:51,813
>>Mayor Pachota: MR. Spangler,

890
00:35:51,813 --> 00:35:52,313
good morning and welcome.

891
00:35:52,313 --> 00:35:53,379
>> good morning.

892
00:35:53,379 --> 00:35:55,379
Welcome back.

893
00:35:58,680 --> 00:35:59,614
Hope everybody had a good break.

894
00:35:59,614 --> 00:36:00,880
>>Kelly Michaels: sir, you want

895
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,180
to pull up a video, is that

896
00:36:02,180 --> 00:36:04,180
correct?

897
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:06,881
You're going to play it.

898
00:36:06,881 --> 00:36:08,814
Sit in that spot there.

899
00:36:08,814 --> 00:36:11,380
And then when you are ready, i

900
00:36:11,380 --> 00:36:12,147
will share the screen.

901
00:36:12,147 --> 00:36:13,613
>> thank you.

902
00:36:13,613 --> 00:36:15,779
In light of the deeply

903
00:36:15,779 --> 00:36:17,879
concerning faa grant proposal

904
00:36:17,879 --> 00:36:19,845
and slide deck briefing, I

905
00:36:19,845 --> 00:36:21,279
realize that nobody in

906
00:36:21,279 --> 00:36:23,579
particular is interested in

907
00:36:23,579 --> 00:36:25,112
hearing from me.

908
00:36:25,112 --> 00:36:26,979
What we all want is answers and

909
00:36:26,979 --> 00:36:29,379
accountability from you, the

910
00:36:29,812 --> 00:36:32,812
city staff and city council.

911
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,647
In that same vein, I compiled

912
00:36:34,647 --> 00:36:36,847
video clips from the APRIL 8

913
00:36:36,847 --> 00:36:38,447
capital improvement plan

914
00:36:38,447 --> 00:36:40,547
workshop and the JUNE 23rd

915
00:36:40,547 --> 00:36:41,913
city council meeting regarding

916
00:36:41,913 --> 00:36:43,314
the airport.

917
00:36:43,314 --> 00:36:45,614
I want to preface that it is not

918
00:36:45,614 --> 00:36:45,847
my intent to make enemies here

919
00:36:45,847 --> 00:36:47,614
today.

920
00:36:47,614 --> 00:36:49,379
I've had the pleasure of

921
00:36:49,379 --> 00:36:51,779
speaking with many of you and my

922
00:36:51,779 --> 00:36:52,879
gut tells me that you are

923
00:36:52,879 --> 00:36:55,879
generally good people and want

924
00:37:09,679 --> 00:37:11,412
to do the right thing.

925
00:37:11,412 --> 00:37:12,745
>> video: when we say there is

926
00:37:12,745 --> 00:37:14,912
misinformation out there, every

927
00:37:14,912 --> 00:37:18,445
pr course I ever took or taught,

928
00:37:18,445 --> 00:37:19,245
if there's misinformation, it's

929
00:37:19,245 --> 00:37:21,245
your fault.

930
00:37:22,477 --> 00:37:22,743
Your job is to get out the

931
00:37:22,743 --> 00:37:24,743
correct --

932
00:37:25,976 --> 00:37:27,843
>> the city is not actively

933
00:37:27,843 --> 00:37:28,910
increasing or decreasing

934
00:37:28,910 --> 00:37:30,430
operations.

935
00:37:30,430 --> 00:37:32,443
>> the festival grounds, and

936
00:37:33,875 --> 00:37:35,976
that's actually where we're

937
00:37:35,976 --> 00:37:37,676
looking to concentrate where

938
00:37:37,676 --> 00:37:38,576
jets would be versus the rest of

939
00:37:38,576 --> 00:37:40,576
the airport.

940
00:37:41,430 --> 00:37:42,976
One of the plans that we have is

941
00:37:42,976 --> 00:37:44,409
to put in this taxiway which

942
00:37:44,409 --> 00:37:45,543
would then open that area for

943
00:37:45,543 --> 00:37:46,942
that type of development so that

944
00:37:46,942 --> 00:37:49,430
jets would be on that side of

945
00:37:49,430 --> 00:37:50,342
the airport.

946
00:37:50,342 --> 00:37:52,109
If we find the developer who is

947
00:37:52,109 --> 00:37:53,642
willing to work with us for a

948
00:37:53,642 --> 00:37:56,410
development over on that side of

949
00:37:56,410 --> 00:37:58,700
the airport, that we can give

950
00:37:58,700 --> 00:38:00,841
them rent credits if they

951
00:38:00,841 --> 00:38:02,173
provide the funding to build

952
00:38:02,173 --> 00:38:04,173
this taxiway.

953
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:06,400
Currently, the faa and F.D.O.T.

954
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,707
Will not participate in a

955
00:38:07,707 --> 00:38:10,707
project that is solely for

956
00:38:11,507 --> 00:38:12,707
economic development.

957
00:38:12,707 --> 00:38:13,907
They'll do it for safety,

958
00:38:13,907 --> 00:38:15,774
efficiency, and capacity issues,

959
00:38:15,774 --> 00:38:18,173
but they will not do it for an

960
00:38:18,173 --> 00:38:19,640
economic reason.

961
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,939
Trying to put the creative hat

962
00:38:21,939 --> 00:38:23,606
on to find alternative funding.

963
00:38:23,606 --> 00:38:26,600
>> we are not actively working

964
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:27,871
on a part 139 compliance.

965
00:38:27,871 --> 00:38:29,971
We're on the trajectory of

966
00:38:29,971 --> 00:38:32,804
becoming required by the faa to

967
00:38:32,804 --> 00:38:35,105
meet the part 139 standard.

968
00:38:35,105 --> 00:38:37,404
>> control tower for the airport

969
00:38:37,404 --> 00:38:39,737
and that's for fiscal '31.

970
00:38:39,737 --> 00:38:42,737
Any questions on the control

971
00:38:44,171 --> 00:38:46,171
tower?

972
00:38:47,710 --> 00:38:49,371
No questions on that one.

973
00:38:49,371 --> 00:38:50,671
>> there are several in

974
00:38:50,671 --> 00:38:52,137
operation across the country is

975
00:38:52,137 --> 00:38:53,837
my understanding referred to as

976
00:38:53,837 --> 00:38:55,837
remote towers.

977
00:38:55,970 --> 00:38:57,737
So it's not brick and mortar.

978
00:38:57,737 --> 00:38:58,970
They sit in a control room and

979
00:38:58,970 --> 00:39:01,970
they direct traffic no different

980
00:39:02,569 --> 00:39:04,902
than a tower, but they are not

981
00:39:04,902 --> 00:39:06,835
visible on the airport property

982
00:39:06,835 --> 00:39:09,668
in terms of brick and mortar.

983
00:39:09,668 --> 00:39:11,101
>> this is going to be a pole.

984
00:39:11,101 --> 00:39:12,734
>> but in functionality it

985
00:39:12,734 --> 00:39:15,670
performs the same function as

986
00:39:15,670 --> 00:39:16,334
having a 70-foot control tower.

987
00:39:16,334 --> 00:39:17,168
I think that's important.

988
00:39:17,168 --> 00:39:19,168
>> that's correct.

989
00:39:20,235 --> 00:39:21,868
>> none of us want to see a 75,

990
00:39:21,868 --> 00:39:23,668
80-foot round tube sticking up

991
00:39:23,668 --> 00:39:25,268
out on the airport property.

992
00:39:25,268 --> 00:39:26,701
>> they don't generate a lot of

993
00:39:26,701 --> 00:39:28,567
capital investment revenue.

994
00:39:28,567 --> 00:39:29,867
They rely solely -- almost

995
00:39:29,867 --> 00:39:32,167
entirely on grants from the

996
00:39:32,167 --> 00:39:33,633
state and the faa.

997
00:39:33,633 --> 00:39:36,330
So expediting these projects,

998
00:39:36,666 --> 00:39:39,132
which is something that we are

999
00:39:39,132 --> 00:39:40,966
focused on, will have to happen

1000
00:39:40,966 --> 00:39:41,799
through these public-private

1001
00:39:41,799 --> 00:39:42,765
partnerships in order to have

1002
00:39:42,765 --> 00:39:44,765
that funding available.

1003
00:39:45,990 --> 00:39:46,832
The way they are programmed now

1004
00:39:46,832 --> 00:39:48,265
is to make sure we get the state

1005
00:39:48,265 --> 00:39:48,865
and federal funding that's

1006
00:39:48,865 --> 00:39:50,865
available.

1007
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:52,232
But we are absolutely moving

1008
00:39:52,232 --> 00:39:53,365
forward with the potential to

1009
00:39:53,365 --> 00:39:54,232
move these projects up.

1010
00:39:54,232 --> 00:39:55,732
>> they have different

1011
00:39:55,732 --> 00:39:56,660
priorities in the community at

1012
00:39:56,660 --> 00:39:57,199
times.

1013
00:39:57,199 --> 00:40:00,199
Our priorities are always going

1014
00:40:00,465 --> 00:40:01,998
to be safety first, period.

1015
00:40:01,998 --> 00:40:03,731
Financial sustainability second.

1016
00:40:03,731 --> 00:40:05,980
And working with the community

1017
00:40:05,980 --> 00:40:07,564
is going to come third.

1018
00:40:07,564 --> 00:40:09,596
It has to for the interest of

1019
00:40:09,596 --> 00:40:11,596
the airport.

1020
00:40:13,230 --> 00:40:14,396
>> after reviewing the faa grant

1021
00:40:14,396 --> 00:40:16,429
proposal, I can't help but feel

1022
00:40:16,429 --> 00:40:17,663
we are being misled about city

1023
00:40:17,663 --> 00:40:19,996
staff's vision for the airport

1024
00:40:19,996 --> 00:40:20,263
under the guise of promoting

1025
00:40:20,263 --> 00:40:22,196
safety.

1026
00:40:22,196 --> 00:40:24,163
My concern, along with hundreds

1027
00:40:24,163 --> 00:40:25,963
who cannot attend today, is that

1028
00:40:25,963 --> 00:40:28,629
the actual vision is to pursue

1029
00:40:28,629 --> 00:40:30,596
as many government grants as

1030
00:40:30,596 --> 00:40:32,430
possible, attract public-private

1031
00:40:32,430 --> 00:40:33,996
partnerships to fuel further

1032
00:40:33,996 --> 00:40:36,162
growth and ultimately generate

1033
00:40:36,162 --> 00:40:38,562
profits to pay for all the new

1034
00:40:38,562 --> 00:40:40,661
obligations we acquired with

1035
00:40:40,661 --> 00:40:42,940
free faa money.

1036
00:40:42,940 --> 00:40:43,594
The grant proposal and slides

1037
00:40:43,594 --> 00:40:45,727
taken with the context of

1038
00:40:45,727 --> 00:40:47,660
capital improvement, the master

1039
00:40:47,660 --> 00:40:50,660
plan, the city council meetings,

1040
00:40:50,993 --> 00:40:51,293
makes the vision abundantly

1041
00:40:51,293 --> 00:40:53,293
clear.

1042
00:40:54,593 --> 00:40:55,893
This council should rescind and

1043
00:40:55,893 --> 00:40:57,994
postpone all grants until there

1044
00:40:57,994 --> 00:41:00,727
is a vision that's voted on by

1045
00:41:00,727 --> 00:41:02,927
elected officials and puts

1046
00:41:02,927 --> 00:41:04,660
residents' concerns first, not

1047
00:41:04,660 --> 00:41:05,893
last.

1048
00:41:05,893 --> 00:41:06,660
>>Mayor Pachota: thank you for

1049
00:41:06,660 --> 00:41:08,393
your comments.

1050
00:41:08,393 --> 00:41:09,159
madam clerk, next speaker.

1051
00:41:09,159 --> 00:41:10,559
>>Kelly Michaels: the last

1052
00:41:10,559 --> 00:41:11,859
speaker is jonathan barrett.

1053
00:41:11,859 --> 00:41:12,459
He has two minutes.

1054
00:41:12,459 --> 00:41:12,892
>>Mayor Pachota: jonathan

1055
00:41:12,892 --> 00:41:14,892
barrett.

1056
00:41:20,758 --> 00:41:22,758
Two minutes.

1057
00:41:24,724 --> 00:41:25,890
Good morning and welcome.

1058
00:41:25,890 --> 00:41:27,457
>> good morning.

1059
00:41:27,457 --> 00:41:29,223
My name is jonathan.

1060
00:41:29,223 --> 00:41:30,224
This is my first time speaking

1061
00:41:30,224 --> 00:41:32,224
before the council.

1062
00:41:33,625 --> 00:41:34,958
I'm here because I care deeply

1063
00:41:34,958 --> 00:41:36,458
about humphris park, south jetty

1064
00:41:36,458 --> 00:41:37,790
and continued public access to

1065
00:41:37,790 --> 00:41:39,291
our shorelines.

1066
00:41:39,291 --> 00:41:41,190
I understand hurricanes helene

1067
00:41:41,190 --> 00:41:42,691
and milton caused major damage.

1068
00:41:42,691 --> 00:41:44,557
I understand the jetty itself is

1069
00:41:44,557 --> 00:41:46,422
unsafe and I'm not asking the

1070
00:41:46,422 --> 00:41:47,855
city to reopen damaged

1071
00:41:47,855 --> 00:41:48,890
infrastructure before it is

1072
00:41:48,890 --> 00:41:49,922
ready.

1073
00:41:49,922 --> 00:41:52,880
Nearly two years later, the

1074
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:53,255
entire area remains close.

1075
00:41:53,255 --> 00:41:54,955
With humphris park inaccessible,

1076
00:41:54,955 --> 00:41:56,388
the next established public

1077
00:41:56,388 --> 00:41:58,688
beach access south along the

1078
00:41:58,688 --> 00:41:59,354
shoreline is roughly nine tenths

1079
00:41:59,354 --> 00:42:00,788
of a mile.

1080
00:42:00,788 --> 00:42:02,870
That means the closure affects

1081
00:42:02,870 --> 00:42:02,487
much more than one damaged

1082
00:42:02,487 --> 00:42:03,822
jetty.

1083
00:42:03,822 --> 00:42:05,155
It removes access to a

1084
00:42:05,155 --> 00:42:06,556
substantial stretch of public

1085
00:42:06,556 --> 00:42:08,955
shoreline that people have used

1086
00:42:08,955 --> 00:42:10,621
for generations for walking,

1087
00:42:10,621 --> 00:42:12,556
fishing, surfing, biking and

1088
00:42:12,556 --> 00:42:14,221
simply getting to the beach.

1089
00:42:14,221 --> 00:42:17,221
We've seen elsewhere that access

1090
00:42:19,420 --> 00:42:21,353
and construction can coexist,

1091
00:42:21,353 --> 00:42:22,486
caspersen beach, repairs

1092
00:42:22,486 --> 00:42:24,486
continued, county provided

1093
00:42:24,753 --> 00:42:26,850
temporary bike racks, signage

1094
00:42:26,850 --> 00:42:27,253
and defined closure.

1095
00:42:27,253 --> 00:42:28,252
South jetty, controlled access

1096
00:42:28,252 --> 00:42:29,386
has been possible for

1097
00:42:29,386 --> 00:42:31,485
contractors and special events.

1098
00:42:31,485 --> 00:42:34,520
There is historically used route

1099
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,185
along the gulf side of humphris

1100
00:42:36,185 --> 00:42:37,919
park toward the sandy beach for

1101
00:42:37,919 --> 00:42:39,152
access, and also appears to be

1102
00:42:39,152 --> 00:42:40,486
an existing public access

1103
00:42:40,486 --> 00:42:41,552
easement farther south that MAY

1104
00:42:41,552 --> 00:42:42,419
provide another connection to

1105
00:42:42,419 --> 00:42:44,419
the shoreline.

1106
00:42:44,818 --> 00:42:46,251
I'm not asking council today to

1107
00:42:46,251 --> 00:42:47,885
determine exactly where a fence

1108
00:42:47,885 --> 00:42:49,351
should go or how the access

1109
00:42:49,351 --> 00:42:51,252
should be configured.

1110
00:42:51,252 --> 00:42:53,518
I'm asking to you direct staff

1111
00:42:53,518 --> 00:42:55,285
to look at the existing access

1112
00:42:55,285 --> 00:42:56,417
points and evaluate an

1113
00:42:56,417 --> 00:42:57,385
bare-bones solution while the

1114
00:42:57,385 --> 00:42:59,153
larger repairs continue.

1115
00:42:59,153 --> 00:43:00,485
Instead of a completely closed

1116
00:43:00,485 --> 00:43:01,518
space that has become a source

1117
00:43:01,518 --> 00:43:02,951
of frustration, we have an

1118
00:43:02,951 --> 00:43:04,818
opportunity to create a safe

1119
00:43:04,818 --> 00:43:06,351
community driven area that

1120
00:43:06,351 --> 00:43:06,618
reconnects venice with the

1121
00:43:06,618 --> 00:43:08,850
shoreline.

1122
00:43:08,850 --> 00:43:08,285
Humphris park is more than a

1123
00:43:08,285 --> 00:43:10,118
jetty.

1124
00:43:10,118 --> 00:43:12,285
Part of venice public shoreline.

1125
00:43:12,285 --> 00:43:13,751
I believe we should make every

1126
00:43:13,751 --> 00:43:14,530
reasonable effort to protect it.

1127
00:43:14,530 --> 00:43:14,985
Thank you.

1128
00:43:14,985 --> 00:43:15,485
>>Mayor Pachota: thank you for

1129
00:43:15,485 --> 00:43:16,118
your comments.

1130
00:43:16,118 --> 00:43:17,784
>>Kelly Michaels: that was the

1131
00:43:17,784 --> 00:43:18,885
last one.

1132
00:43:18,885 --> 00:43:20,453
>>Mayor Pachota: with that, we

1133
00:43:20,453 --> 00:43:24,530
will move on to the consent

1134
00:43:24,252 --> 00:43:26,651
section of the agenda.

1135
00:43:26,651 --> 00:43:27,984
All matters listed under consent

1136
00:43:27,984 --> 00:43:29,485
section are considered routine

1137
00:43:29,485 --> 00:43:31,484
and enacted by one motion unless

1138
00:43:31,484 --> 00:43:32,180
an item is removed by a council

1139
00:43:32,180 --> 00:43:32,818
member.

1140
00:43:32,818 --> 00:43:34,450
No separation discussion.

1141
00:43:34,450 --> 00:43:35,885
If a discussion is desired, the

1142
00:43:35,885 --> 00:43:37,450
item or items will be voted on

1143
00:43:37,450 --> 00:43:37,817
at the end of the consent

1144
00:43:37,817 --> 00:43:38,918
section.

1145
00:43:38,918 --> 00:43:40,118
With that, any council members

1146
00:43:40,118 --> 00:43:41,285
that would like to remove

1147
00:43:41,285 --> 00:43:42,618
anything from consent?

1148
00:43:42,618 --> 00:43:44,618
MR. Howard.

1149
00:43:44,685 --> 00:43:48,285
>>Rick Howard: I would like to

1150
00:43:49,850 --> 00:43:51,118
remove 26-0701.

1151
00:43:51,118 --> 00:43:53,585
>>Mayor Pachota: any other items

1152
00:43:53,585 --> 00:43:54,118
from any other council members?

1153
00:43:54,118 --> 00:43:55,817
All right.

1154
00:43:55,817 --> 00:43:57,685
With that, I will entertain a

1155
00:43:57,685 --> 00:43:58,517
motion.

1156
00:43:58,517 --> 00:44:00,750
>>Vice Mayor Boldt: MR. Mayor, I

1157
00:44:00,750 --> 00:44:01,718
move to approve items on the

1158
00:44:01,718 --> 00:44:04,118
consent section with the

1159
00:44:05,684 --> 00:44:07,218
exception of 26-0701.

1160
00:44:07,218 --> 00:44:07,585
>>Mayor Pachota: seconded by MR.

1161
00:44:07,585 --> 00:44:09,318
Engelke.

1162
00:44:09,318 --> 00:44:10,851
All in favor say aye.

1163
00:44:10,851 --> 00:44:11,818
Anyone opposed?

1164
00:44:11,818 --> 00:44:13,218
Passes unanimously.

1165
00:44:13,218 --> 00:44:15,218
[Sounding gavel]

1166
00:44:17,618 --> 00:44:19,218
We will move on to 26-0701, MR.

1167
00:44:19,218 --> 00:44:20,786
Howard, you pulled this item, if

1168
00:44:20,786 --> 00:44:22,351
you would like to briefly

1169
00:44:22,351 --> 00:44:23,417
introduce it.

1170
00:44:23,417 --> 00:44:25,417
>>Rick Howard: yeah.

1171
00:44:29,351 --> 00:44:31,318
This item addresses vital, which

1172
00:44:31,318 --> 00:44:32,517
I'm not opposed to, but I think

1173
00:44:32,517 --> 00:44:34,318
in light of everything going on

1174
00:44:34,318 --> 00:44:37,318
with the airport, we're hearing

1175
00:44:37,685 --> 00:44:40,170
from residents that I think we

1176
00:44:40,170 --> 00:44:41,451
need to have all hands on deck,

1177
00:44:41,451 --> 00:44:43,551
and that includes our airport

1178
00:44:43,551 --> 00:44:45,151
director, our city manager and

1179
00:44:45,151 --> 00:44:48,751
staff and council to make sure

1180
00:44:48,918 --> 00:44:51,318
that we're not getting

1181
00:44:52,218 --> 00:44:53,985
distracted in focusing on

1182
00:44:53,985 --> 00:44:55,185
electric flying apparatus from a

1183
00:44:55,185 --> 00:44:55,918
to b.

1184
00:44:55,918 --> 00:44:57,318
>>Mayor Pachota: do you have a

1185
00:44:57,318 --> 00:44:58,510
motion?

1186
00:44:58,510 --> 00:45:00,510
Hillsborough county hillsborough

1187
00:45:00,818 --> 00:45:04,418
county I would move that we

1188
00:45:05,650 --> 00:45:09,250
postpone this mou to a later

1189
00:45:12,418 --> 00:45:13,840
date, and also that council be

1190
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,840
provided a more comprehensive

1191
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:16,618
understanding of how this would

1192
00:45:16,618 --> 00:45:19,618
impact the airport itself and

1193
00:45:20,118 --> 00:45:21,117
also our residents.

1194
00:45:21,117 --> 00:45:21,751
>>Mayor Pachota: seconded by MR.

1195
00:45:21,751 --> 00:45:23,518
Smith.

1196
00:45:23,518 --> 00:45:25,917
MADAM Clerk, do you have anybody

1197
00:45:25,917 --> 00:45:27,190
signed up to speak?

1198
00:45:27,190 --> 00:45:27,284
>>Kelly Michaels: no.

1199
00:45:27,284 --> 00:45:28,584
I don't.

1200
00:45:28,584 --> 00:45:31,584
>>Mayor Pachota: then we'll move

1201
00:45:33,500 --> 00:45:35,170
to council discussion.

1202
00:45:35,170 --> 00:45:35,351
I've got three names on my list

1203
00:45:35,351 --> 00:45:36,918
right now.

1204
00:45:36,918 --> 00:45:38,884
MR. Howard, are you good?

1205
00:45:38,884 --> 00:45:39,550
MR. Boldt?

1206
00:45:39,550 --> 00:45:41,617
>>Vice Mayor Boldt: yes, thank

1207
00:45:41,617 --> 00:45:43,617
you.

1208
00:45:44,551 --> 00:45:45,650
I think I just want to put it on

1209
00:45:45,650 --> 00:45:47,418
the record that I don't think

1210
00:45:47,418 --> 00:45:48,484
that I can disagree with MR.

1211
00:45:48,484 --> 00:45:50,617
Howard on this one.

1212
00:45:50,617 --> 00:45:52,517
I think we heard enough in

1213
00:45:52,517 --> 00:45:53,284
public comment already to say

1214
00:45:53,284 --> 00:45:56,284
nothing of the e-mails that

1215
00:45:56,684 --> 00:45:57,718
we've received that there's

1216
00:45:57,718 --> 00:45:58,180
grave concern and there needs to

1217
00:45:58,180 --> 00:46:00,180
be.

1218
00:46:00,218 --> 00:46:01,950
So we need to keep our eye on

1219
00:46:01,950 --> 00:46:03,518
the ball.

1220
00:46:03,518 --> 00:46:05,484
However, having said that, I

1221
00:46:05,484 --> 00:46:07,884
also believe it's really

1222
00:46:08,451 --> 00:46:11,751
important as one of the major

1223
00:46:11,751 --> 00:46:14,500
small airports in the area that

1224
00:46:14,500 --> 00:46:15,384
we have a seat at this table

1225
00:46:15,384 --> 00:46:17,250
ultimately because we don't want

1226
00:46:17,250 --> 00:46:19,318
the faa coming back to us at

1227
00:46:19,318 --> 00:46:20,917
some point and saying, okay,

1228
00:46:20,917 --> 00:46:22,884
this is what we've decided.

1229
00:46:22,884 --> 00:46:25,250
This is what it's going to be.

1230
00:46:25,250 --> 00:46:26,251
I think ultimately while it is

1231
00:46:26,251 --> 00:46:29,251
maybe really important to put

1232
00:46:29,517 --> 00:46:31,384
this on hold for now, I do hope

1233
00:46:31,384 --> 00:46:32,351
it will come back to us once

1234
00:46:32,351 --> 00:46:34,351
things get cleared out a little

1235
00:46:34,351 --> 00:46:35,384
bit and we have a better

1236
00:46:35,384 --> 00:46:36,883
understanding, we get closer to

1237
00:46:36,883 --> 00:46:38,617
the end of the year and our

1238
00:46:38,617 --> 00:46:40,617
master plan being finished.

1239
00:46:40,617 --> 00:46:41,817
So that we can make an

1240
00:46:41,817 --> 00:46:44,217
intelligent decision as to

1241
00:46:44,751 --> 00:46:45,817
whether we want a seat at this

1242
00:46:45,817 --> 00:46:47,184
table or not.

1243
00:46:47,184 --> 00:46:49,250
Firmly, I believe I would rather

1244
00:46:49,250 --> 00:46:49,884
be at the table than away from

1245
00:46:49,884 --> 00:46:50,450
the table.

1246
00:46:50,450 --> 00:46:51,170
Thank you.

1247
00:46:51,170 --> 00:46:53,417
>>Mayor Pachota: MR. City

1248
00:46:53,784 --> 00:46:54,450
manager?

1249
00:46:54,450 --> 00:46:54,884
>>James Clinch: thank you,

1250
00:46:54,884 --> 00:46:56,450
mayor.

1251
00:46:56,450 --> 00:46:59,284
Just wanted to kind of clarify

1252
00:46:59,284 --> 00:47:01,451
what the intent of this mou is.

1253
00:47:01,451 --> 00:47:02,551
So this is an emerging

1254
00:47:02,551 --> 00:47:04,951
technology that is coming.

1255
00:47:04,984 --> 00:47:06,151
Now, it's not coming tomorrow,

1256
00:47:06,151 --> 00:47:07,751
probably, five, ten years down

1257
00:47:07,751 --> 00:47:10,883
the road, but it is something

1258
00:47:10,883 --> 00:47:11,151
that the faa is actively working

1259
00:47:11,151 --> 00:47:12,783
on.

1260
00:47:12,783 --> 00:47:14,751
What that means at some point in

1261
00:47:14,751 --> 00:47:17,351
the future, the faa will be

1262
00:47:17,351 --> 00:47:19,751
giving us guidance, directives,

1263
00:47:20,451 --> 00:47:21,884
and eventually mandates on how

1264
00:47:21,884 --> 00:47:22,650
we need to provide

1265
00:47:22,650 --> 00:47:22,951
infrastructure for the

1266
00:47:22,951 --> 00:47:24,500
technology.

1267
00:47:24,500 --> 00:47:26,500
It is coming.

1268
00:47:27,784 --> 00:47:29,450
We will be at some point in time

1269
00:47:29,450 --> 00:47:32,500
mandated to participate in this

1270
00:47:32,500 --> 00:47:34,284
synergistic across our state.

1271
00:47:34,284 --> 00:47:36,816
So the purpose of the task force

1272
00:47:36,816 --> 00:47:40,216
is to sit down with our

1273
00:47:40,216 --> 00:47:42,510
colleagues at the county level,

1274
00:47:42,510 --> 00:47:43,351
sarasota airport, our other

1275
00:47:43,351 --> 00:47:44,840
cities and talk about the

1276
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:45,350
questions, because there are a

1277
00:47:45,350 --> 00:47:47,884
lot of questions out there on

1278
00:47:47,884 --> 00:47:48,983
how this would work, where the

1279
00:47:48,983 --> 00:47:50,550
network would be and start

1280
00:47:50,550 --> 00:47:50,816
getting answers to that

1281
00:47:50,816 --> 00:47:52,283
question.

1282
00:47:52,283 --> 00:47:52,617
It doesn't commit us to

1283
00:47:52,617 --> 00:47:53,917
anything.

1284
00:47:53,917 --> 00:47:54,184
Doesn't obligate the city to

1285
00:47:54,184 --> 00:47:55,716
anything.

1286
00:47:55,716 --> 00:47:57,384
It's just about getting the

1287
00:47:57,384 --> 00:47:58,450
facts and researching for future

1288
00:47:58,450 --> 00:47:59,649
planning purposes.

1289
00:47:59,649 --> 00:48:01,649
Thank you.

1290
00:48:04,350 --> 00:48:05,350
>>Mayor Pachota: MR. Smith.

1291
00:48:05,350 --> 00:48:08,350
>>Ron Smith: thank you, mayor.

1292
00:48:10,884 --> 00:48:11,417
I seconded this because I'm very

1293
00:48:11,417 --> 00:48:12,817
disappointed.

1294
00:48:12,817 --> 00:48:14,150
I thought we had the trust of

1295
00:48:14,150 --> 00:48:16,150
the airport neighbors.

1296
00:48:17,450 --> 00:48:17,650
Now I feel like we've lost it

1297
00:48:17,650 --> 00:48:19,840
again.

1298
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:20,840
For that reason, I think we

1299
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:21,517
shouldn't have something like

1300
00:48:21,517 --> 00:48:22,950
this on the consent agenda,

1301
00:48:22,950 --> 00:48:23,383
which means there will be no

1302
00:48:23,383 --> 00:48:25,383
discussion.

1303
00:48:25,550 --> 00:48:26,160
So I'm happy for us to discuss

1304
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:27,317
it.

1305
00:48:27,317 --> 00:48:30,917
I'd be happy to hear a

1306
00:48:31,718 --> 00:48:34,118
presentation about it and

1307
00:48:34,417 --> 00:48:35,517
perhaps it's something that we

1308
00:48:35,517 --> 00:48:36,750
will wholeheartedly endorse.

1309
00:48:36,750 --> 00:48:39,717
But I don't think we can afford

1310
00:48:39,717 --> 00:48:41,116
to do things without being

1311
00:48:41,116 --> 00:48:43,516
transparent, without having open

1312
00:48:43,983 --> 00:48:44,950
discussions about them anymore

1313
00:48:44,950 --> 00:48:46,183
on airport matters and the

1314
00:48:46,183 --> 00:48:47,950
environment that we're in.

1315
00:48:47,950 --> 00:48:49,950
So thank you.

1316
00:48:52,684 --> 00:48:53,283
>>Mayor Pachota: MS. Frank.

1317
00:48:53,283 --> 00:48:54,383
>>Rachel Frank: thank you.

1318
00:48:54,383 --> 00:48:57,383
I agree that potentially this

1319
00:48:58,490 --> 00:48:59,217
could be a great topic for the

1320
00:48:59,217 --> 00:49:00,583
hopeful airport workshop that

1321
00:49:00,583 --> 00:49:01,217
will be approved later on our

1322
00:49:01,217 --> 00:49:02,750
agenda today.

1323
00:49:02,750 --> 00:49:05,150
I do have significant concerns

1324
00:49:05,150 --> 00:49:08,500
that if we do not eventually

1325
00:49:08,500 --> 00:49:10,217
participate in this task force

1326
00:49:10,217 --> 00:49:11,850
with the other partners in

1327
00:49:11,850 --> 00:49:12,750
sarasota, manatee counties that

1328
00:49:12,750 --> 00:49:15,683
we cannot advocate for the

1329
00:49:15,683 --> 00:49:17,170
residents who have concerns, as

1330
00:49:17,170 --> 00:49:19,417
obviously changes in the

1331
00:49:20,820 --> 00:49:20,317
technology are coming down the

1332
00:49:20,317 --> 00:49:21,517
pipe.

1333
00:49:21,517 --> 00:49:22,850
So I would just hope that we

1334
00:49:22,850 --> 00:49:24,583
would have a seat at the table.

1335
00:49:24,583 --> 00:49:25,583
And I would hope we would be

1336
00:49:25,583 --> 00:49:25,982
able to advocate for the

1337
00:49:25,982 --> 00:49:27,883
residents.

1338
00:49:27,883 --> 00:49:31,418
And when we are not able to have

1339
00:49:31,418 --> 00:49:33,382
our staff on the task force to

1340
00:49:33,382 --> 00:49:35,216
understand what's changing, it

1341
00:49:35,216 --> 00:49:36,117
puts us at a disadvantage.

1342
00:49:36,117 --> 00:49:38,117
I agree.

1343
00:49:39,617 --> 00:49:41,250
As long as we can discuss this

1344
00:49:41,250 --> 00:49:43,490
in the near future and hopefully

1345
00:49:43,490 --> 00:49:46,490
give staff's blessing to proceed

1346
00:49:48,682 --> 00:49:50,170
to be a part of this.

1347
00:49:50,170 --> 00:49:50,450
>>Kevin Engelke: I agree with my

1348
00:49:50,450 --> 00:49:51,550
colleagues.

1349
00:49:51,550 --> 00:49:52,217
We need to have a seat at the

1350
00:49:52,217 --> 00:49:54,217
table.

1351
00:49:54,417 --> 00:49:56,483
This is going to be a topic of

1352
00:49:56,483 --> 00:49:59,450
discussion for the next ten

1353
00:49:59,450 --> 00:49:59,683
years or maybe five or maybe

1354
00:49:59,683 --> 00:50:01,383
fifteen.

1355
00:50:01,383 --> 00:50:04,583
I think it's important that we

1356
00:50:04,583 --> 00:50:06,510
as a community are in front with

1357
00:50:06,510 --> 00:50:07,416
the technology, with what could

1358
00:50:07,416 --> 00:50:09,416
be impacting us.

1359
00:50:09,983 --> 00:50:10,850
Right now, we have a lot of

1360
00:50:10,850 --> 00:50:13,250
discussion about the airport.

1361
00:50:14,683 --> 00:50:16,416
So timing-wise is probably --

1362
00:50:16,416 --> 00:50:18,283
it's in between, at least for

1363
00:50:18,283 --> 00:50:20,283
me.

1364
00:50:21,249 --> 00:50:24,500
I do feel that we need to stay

1365
00:50:24,500 --> 00:50:25,983
out in front on this, and we

1366
00:50:25,983 --> 00:50:28,150
need to communicate clearly to

1367
00:50:28,150 --> 00:50:29,683
everybody in this room and to

1368
00:50:29,683 --> 00:50:32,683
everybody in our community and

1369
00:50:33,350 --> 00:50:35,350
the surrounding environment.

1370
00:50:35,949 --> 00:50:37,950
I think we need to make sure we

1371
00:50:37,950 --> 00:50:40,916
do not lose this, and my

1372
00:50:40,916 --> 00:50:43,316
suggestion would be perhaps

1373
00:50:47,500 --> 00:50:48,283
putting it on the agenda for a

1374
00:50:48,283 --> 00:50:49,883
topic of discussion shortly.

1375
00:50:49,883 --> 00:50:51,450
Not within one month, two

1376
00:50:51,450 --> 00:50:51,683
months, but not six years

1377
00:50:51,683 --> 00:50:52,983
either.

1378
00:50:52,983 --> 00:50:54,516
That's kind of where I am.

1379
00:50:54,516 --> 00:50:55,250
Thanks.

1380
00:50:55,250 --> 00:50:57,160
>>Mayor Pachota: MR. City

1381
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,315
manager, I have some questions.

1382
00:50:59,315 --> 00:51:00,416
So in reviewing the memorandum,

1383
00:51:00,416 --> 00:51:03,416
my understanding was this was

1384
00:51:05,150 --> 00:51:06,350
just like any other -- I don't

1385
00:51:06,350 --> 00:51:08,950
want to say task force because

1386
00:51:08,950 --> 00:51:10,383
we don't do it very often -- but

1387
00:51:10,383 --> 00:51:11,500
any other committee we would

1388
00:51:11,500 --> 00:51:12,583
serve on.

1389
00:51:12,583 --> 00:51:14,160
When I read the agreement, it

1390
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:14,250
said this wasn't going to be

1391
00:51:14,250 --> 00:51:15,983
binding.

1392
00:51:15,983 --> 00:51:17,950
It was really just to have our

1393
00:51:17,950 --> 00:51:20,483
voice and a host of other cities

1394
00:51:20,483 --> 00:51:22,316
participating all the way from

1395
00:51:22,316 --> 00:51:23,783
bradenton beach down to city of

1396
00:51:23,783 --> 00:51:26,830
north port and organizations

1397
00:51:26,830 --> 00:51:28,615
that don't even have an airport.

1398
00:51:28,615 --> 00:51:30,817
If you could just clarify for me

1399
00:51:30,817 --> 00:51:32,549
a little bit better, is this

1400
00:51:32,549 --> 00:51:34,650
simply just another committee

1401
00:51:34,650 --> 00:51:35,916
like the hundreds of other

1402
00:51:35,916 --> 00:51:38,316
committees we have, or is this

1403
00:51:38,316 --> 00:51:41,500
going to lock us into any -- are

1404
00:51:41,500 --> 00:51:42,450
we giving the faa guidance on

1405
00:51:42,450 --> 00:51:44,983
what we want to see?

1406
00:51:44,983 --> 00:51:45,916
Are we giving staff the ability

1407
00:51:45,916 --> 00:51:48,883
to communicate for the council

1408
00:51:48,883 --> 00:51:49,515
as to our wishes for the future?

1409
00:51:49,515 --> 00:51:50,750
>>James Clinch: you're exactly

1410
00:51:50,750 --> 00:51:52,750
right.

1411
00:51:52,983 --> 00:51:55,183
This committee is really so we

1412
00:51:55,183 --> 00:51:56,915
can go out and get the answers

1413
00:51:56,915 --> 00:51:58,450
and get the facts on what this

1414
00:51:58,450 --> 00:52:00,749
future technology is going to

1415
00:52:00,749 --> 00:52:02,383
look like.

1416
00:52:02,383 --> 00:52:04,183
Your opinion on the technology

1417
00:52:04,183 --> 00:52:05,949
for anyone is not really

1418
00:52:05,949 --> 00:52:07,183
relevant at this point in the

1419
00:52:07,183 --> 00:52:08,383
game because we don't really

1420
00:52:08,383 --> 00:52:09,248
even understand what this would

1421
00:52:09,248 --> 00:52:10,849
mean for venice.

1422
00:52:10,849 --> 00:52:12,149
This is to work with our

1423
00:52:12,149 --> 00:52:13,816
partners, to get those answers

1424
00:52:13,816 --> 00:52:15,648
so we can bring them back.

1425
00:52:15,648 --> 00:52:16,516
Does not obligate us to any

1426
00:52:16,516 --> 00:52:17,883
infrastructure.

1427
00:52:17,883 --> 00:52:19,816
Doesn't obligate us to spend any

1428
00:52:19,816 --> 00:52:21,683
money on future projects, but

1429
00:52:21,683 --> 00:52:24,316
those future questions are going

1430
00:52:24,316 --> 00:52:25,849
to come up is my message to you.

1431
00:52:25,849 --> 00:52:26,949
Technology whether we

1432
00:52:26,949 --> 00:52:28,916
participate in the task force or

1433
00:52:28,916 --> 00:52:30,449
not is not going away.

1434
00:52:30,449 --> 00:52:32,249
It's going to end up in our lap

1435
00:52:32,249 --> 00:52:33,583
at some point in the future.

1436
00:52:33,583 --> 00:52:35,649
My recommendation is, let's be

1437
00:52:35,649 --> 00:52:36,616
as prepared as we can be when it

1438
00:52:36,616 --> 00:52:38,616
does come our way.

1439
00:52:38,616 --> 00:52:39,948
But happy to give a presentation

1440
00:52:39,948 --> 00:52:41,383
that would make council feel

1441
00:52:41,383 --> 00:52:42,149
more comfortable with the

1442
00:52:42,149 --> 00:52:42,916
technology.

1443
00:52:42,916 --> 00:52:44,216
>>Mayor Pachota: I just want to

1444
00:52:44,216 --> 00:52:44,515
highlight concerns for my

1445
00:52:44,515 --> 00:52:45,983
colleagues.

1446
00:52:45,983 --> 00:52:47,416
To me, this is nothing more than

1447
00:52:47,416 --> 00:52:48,816
us participating on the council

1448
00:52:48,816 --> 00:52:50,449
of governments.

1449
00:52:50,449 --> 00:52:51,783
The tdc, the economic

1450
00:52:51,783 --> 00:52:53,249
development, all these different

1451
00:52:53,249 --> 00:52:55,282
committees that we serve on

1452
00:52:55,282 --> 00:52:56,149
aren't making binding decisions

1453
00:52:56,149 --> 00:52:57,382
for the council.

1454
00:52:57,382 --> 00:52:58,849
They are just so we have a voice

1455
00:52:58,849 --> 00:53:00,849
at the table.

1456
00:53:03,349 --> 00:53:04,682
I grow concern that I understand

1457
00:53:04,682 --> 00:53:05,817
how cautious we need to be with

1458
00:53:05,817 --> 00:53:07,548
the airport and make sure that

1459
00:53:07,548 --> 00:53:08,749
we're listening to the citizens.

1460
00:53:08,749 --> 00:53:10,949
I'm just concerned that we're

1461
00:53:10,949 --> 00:53:12,483
tying two items together that

1462
00:53:12,483 --> 00:53:13,160
don't necessarily relate to each

1463
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:14,249
other.

1464
00:53:14,249 --> 00:53:15,649
Since I've been on council,

1465
00:53:15,649 --> 00:53:17,849
we've been talking about seeking

1466
00:53:17,849 --> 00:53:20,516
grant funding for the tower and

1467
00:53:20,516 --> 00:53:23,382
I remember, I think it was after

1468
00:53:23,382 --> 00:53:25,480
covid maybe 2022-ish that we had

1469
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:25,782
discussion about pursuing grant

1470
00:53:25,782 --> 00:53:27,315
funding.

1471
00:53:27,315 --> 00:53:28,849
It's not something new that just

1472
00:53:28,849 --> 00:53:30,649
came up yesterday.

1473
00:53:30,649 --> 00:53:32,282
I don't even see this as an item

1474
00:53:32,282 --> 00:53:33,381
that relates to that.

1475
00:53:33,381 --> 00:53:35,490
I'm just concerned that we're

1476
00:53:35,490 --> 00:53:37,448
going to be lumping everything

1477
00:53:37,448 --> 00:53:38,820
airport into one silo and lose a

1478
00:53:38,820 --> 00:53:39,681
seat at the table.

1479
00:53:39,681 --> 00:53:41,715
That's just my only concern is I

1480
00:53:41,715 --> 00:53:44,282
don't want us to be absent from

1481
00:53:44,282 --> 00:53:46,349
any discussions that MAY impact

1482
00:53:46,349 --> 00:53:48,349
us.

1483
00:53:49,820 --> 00:53:49,982
MR. Howard.

1484
00:53:49,982 --> 00:53:51,616
>>Rick Howard: thanks, mayor.

1485
00:53:51,616 --> 00:53:52,516
I appreciate the comments that

1486
00:53:52,516 --> 00:53:54,916
my colleagues have made.

1487
00:53:55,516 --> 00:53:58,216
Trust me, I don't have anything

1488
00:53:58,216 --> 00:53:59,170
against vitol.

1489
00:53:59,170 --> 00:54:00,550
It's the future.

1490
00:54:00,550 --> 00:54:01,381
Kind of star wars if you want to

1491
00:54:01,381 --> 00:54:03,382
think about it that way.

1492
00:54:03,382 --> 00:54:03,916
It is a very quiet delivery

1493
00:54:03,916 --> 00:54:04,916
system.

1494
00:54:04,916 --> 00:54:06,916
These are electric.

1495
00:54:07,383 --> 00:54:09,482
I think the ultimate goal will

1496
00:54:09,482 --> 00:54:11,160
be unmanned so there's no pilot

1497
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:12,449
in these things.

1498
00:54:12,449 --> 00:54:16,183
And they fly from point a to

1499
00:54:16,183 --> 00:54:18,249
point b with people or products.

1500
00:54:18,249 --> 00:54:20,160
it takes congestion off the

1501
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,160
roads.

1502
00:54:22,349 --> 00:54:24,716
They are relatively quiet.

1503
00:54:24,716 --> 00:54:27,282
Some are like weed whackers.

1504
00:54:27,282 --> 00:54:28,616
If you ever heard drones flying

1505
00:54:28,616 --> 00:54:30,282
around, picture this thing as a

1506
00:54:30,282 --> 00:54:32,282
big drone.

1507
00:54:35,983 --> 00:54:37,515
So I'm not opposed to VITOLs

1508
00:54:37,515 --> 00:54:39,716
and definitely not opposed to

1509
00:54:39,716 --> 00:54:41,849
having a seat at the table.

1510
00:54:41,849 --> 00:54:43,614
My focus is more on where the

1511
00:54:43,614 --> 00:54:46,449
focus is at the airport right

1512
00:54:46,449 --> 00:54:48,449
now.

1513
00:54:49,483 --> 00:54:52,249
I want nick and staff to be

1514
00:54:52,249 --> 00:54:53,148
focused on what my colleague

1515
00:54:53,148 --> 00:54:54,315
said.

1516
00:54:54,315 --> 00:54:55,449
It feels like we've lost trust

1517
00:54:55,449 --> 00:54:57,149
of the community again.

1518
00:54:57,149 --> 00:54:58,515
And we work really hard.

1519
00:54:58,515 --> 00:54:59,482
I think it was a great

1520
00:54:59,482 --> 00:55:01,715
presentation that was given

1521
00:55:01,715 --> 00:55:03,816
before we went on break, and I

1522
00:55:03,816 --> 00:55:05,782
think everybody was embracing

1523
00:55:05,782 --> 00:55:07,649
that.

1524
00:55:07,649 --> 00:55:08,150
Yeah, our e-mails are blowing

1525
00:55:08,150 --> 00:55:10,150
up.

1526
00:55:10,820 --> 00:55:12,249
I read every single one of them.

1527
00:55:12,249 --> 00:55:12,681
I've spoken to many of our

1528
00:55:12,681 --> 00:55:14,681
residents.

1529
00:55:16,182 --> 00:55:16,382
Some are here in the audience

1530
00:55:16,382 --> 00:55:18,382
today.

1531
00:55:19,415 --> 00:55:20,182
I think I'm speaking for the

1532
00:55:20,182 --> 00:55:21,816
entire council and staff.

1533
00:55:21,816 --> 00:55:25,315
We want to do what's right for

1534
00:55:25,315 --> 00:55:25,549
the residents and for the

1535
00:55:25,549 --> 00:55:27,549
airport.

1536
00:55:27,650 --> 00:55:27,849
There's just a lot of moving

1537
00:55:27,849 --> 00:55:29,649
parts.

1538
00:55:29,649 --> 00:55:31,950
I want the focus to be on what's

1539
00:55:31,950 --> 00:55:34,150
at hand, what's on deck today.

1540
00:55:34,150 --> 00:55:36,183
I don't want our airport

1541
00:55:36,183 --> 00:55:38,810
director going to a meeting

1542
00:55:38,810 --> 00:55:40,415
about a vitol right now.

1543
00:55:40,415 --> 00:55:42,515
We have bigger fish to fry that

1544
00:55:42,515 --> 00:55:42,749
we should be focused on, in my

1545
00:55:42,749 --> 00:55:43,515
opinion.

1546
00:55:43,515 --> 00:55:44,150
Thank you, mayor.

1547
00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:45,382
>>Mayor Pachota: okay.

1548
00:55:45,382 --> 00:55:47,816
With that, MADAM Clerk, if

1549
00:55:47,816 --> 00:55:48,615
you'll ready us for an

1550
00:55:48,615 --> 00:55:49,681
electronic vote.

1551
00:55:49,681 --> 00:55:51,482
Council members, when your

1552
00:55:51,482 --> 00:55:54,482
lights are flashing, you can

1553
00:55:55,216 --> 00:55:57,820
indicate your vote.

1554
00:55:57,820 --> 00:56:00,682
MADAM Clerk, you can tally and

1555
00:56:02,216 --> 00:56:04,216
display the vote.

1556
00:56:04,449 --> 00:56:05,548
It passes 5-2.

1557
00:56:05,548 --> 00:56:07,820
[Sounding gavel]

1558
00:56:07,820 --> 00:56:08,615
With that we will take a

1559
00:56:08,615 --> 00:56:10,582
15-minute and come back at

1560
00:56:10,582 --> 00:56:11,848
10:20.

1561
00:56:11,848 --> 00:56:13,848
[Recess]

1562
00:56:32,312 --> 00:56:33,780
[Sounding gavel]

1563
00:56:33,780 --> 00:56:34,844
>>Mayor Pachota: okay.

1564
00:56:34,844 --> 00:56:36,844
We are back.

1565
00:56:37,811 --> 00:56:38,644
We are on to public hearings,

1566
00:56:38,644 --> 00:56:39,945
unfinished business.

1567
00:56:39,945 --> 00:56:42,512
MADAM Attorney, I believe you

1568
00:56:42,512 --> 00:56:42,878
have an update for us on this

1569
00:56:42,878 --> 00:56:43,679
one.

1570
00:56:43,679 --> 00:56:44,777
>>Kelly m. Fernandez: yes.

1571
00:56:44,777 --> 00:56:46,111
Yesterday afternoon we received

1572
00:56:46,111 --> 00:56:47,878
a request from the applicant

1573
00:56:47,878 --> 00:56:49,812
that the hearing not be held.

1574
00:56:49,812 --> 00:56:51,313
They would like to revise their

1575
00:56:51,313 --> 00:56:53,212
application to resolve some of

1576
00:56:53,212 --> 00:56:54,613
the issues that were brought

1577
00:56:54,613 --> 00:56:56,245
forward by the appellant.

1578
00:56:56,245 --> 00:56:59,412
So they are asking that we have

1579
00:56:59,412 --> 00:57:01,578
this remanded back to staff.

1580
00:57:01,578 --> 00:57:02,712
>>Mayor Pachota: okay.

1581
00:57:02,712 --> 00:57:05,313
>>Kelly m. Fernandez: I should

1582
00:57:05,313 --> 00:57:07,513
also add, I'm sorry, that the

1583
00:57:07,513 --> 00:57:09,513
appellant is aware of this and

1584
00:57:09,513 --> 00:57:11,245
staff is aware of this as well

1585
00:57:11,245 --> 00:57:11,578
and no one has an issue with

1586
00:57:11,578 --> 00:57:12,813
that outcome.

1587
00:57:12,813 --> 00:57:14,978
>>Mayor Pachota: with that, I'll

1588
00:57:14,978 --> 00:57:17,378
move to vacate planning

1589
00:57:17,846 --> 00:57:20,246
commission order and remand

1590
00:57:21,146 --> 00:57:22,345
petition 25-40sp back to staff

1591
00:57:22,345 --> 00:57:24,745
for amendment and further

1592
00:57:26,613 --> 00:57:28,130
review.

1593
00:57:28,130 --> 00:57:31,613
Sorry, 26 --- do I have the

1594
00:57:32,112 --> 00:57:34,512
number right, MADAM Attorney?

1595
00:57:36,145 --> 00:57:37,278
25-40sp is the actual

1596
00:57:37,278 --> 00:57:38,912
application number.

1597
00:57:38,912 --> 00:57:40,478
>>Mayor Pachota: 25-40sp.

1598
00:57:40,478 --> 00:57:42,346
Seconded by vice mayor boldt.

1599
00:57:42,346 --> 00:57:43,978
MADAM Clerk, do you have anybody

1600
00:57:43,978 --> 00:57:44,745
signed up to speak in.

1601
00:57:44,745 --> 00:57:45,412
>>Kelly Michaels: no, I don't.

1602
00:57:45,412 --> 00:57:47,812
>>Mayor Pachota: any council

1603
00:57:49,460 --> 00:57:50,378
discussion?

1604
00:57:50,378 --> 00:57:51,878
Seeing none, MADAM Clerk, if

1605
00:57:51,878 --> 00:57:53,411
you'll ready us for an

1606
00:57:53,411 --> 00:57:54,312
electronic vote.

1607
00:57:54,312 --> 00:57:55,845
Council members, when your

1608
00:57:55,845 --> 00:57:58,845
lights are flashing, you can

1609
00:58:00,578 --> 00:58:02,346
indicate your vote.

1610
00:58:02,346 --> 00:58:03,878
Go ahead and tally and display

1611
00:58:03,878 --> 00:58:04,979
the vote.

1612
00:58:04,979 --> 00:58:05,512
Passes unanimously.

1613
00:58:05,512 --> 00:58:07,780
[Sounding gavel]

1614
00:58:07,780 --> 00:58:08,378
I'll just remind the audience

1615
00:58:08,378 --> 00:58:10,145
that we can hear everything

1616
00:58:10,145 --> 00:58:11,111
you're saying up here, including

1617
00:58:11,111 --> 00:58:13,111
curse words.

1618
00:58:13,212 --> 00:58:13,479
So please be respectful in the

1619
00:58:13,479 --> 00:58:14,577
audience.

1620
00:58:14,577 --> 00:58:16,779
If you're having an issue with

1621
00:58:16,779 --> 00:58:18,120
the speaker system, get with the

1622
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:19,645
clerk's office so we can get you

1623
00:58:19,645 --> 00:58:23,245
a part of the loop recording

1624
00:58:25,679 --> 00:58:28,679
system and a speaker box.

1625
00:58:30,878 --> 00:58:33,578
Do you have a point of order?

1626
00:58:33,578 --> 00:58:36,345
>> I'd like to restate my vote

1627
00:58:36,345 --> 00:58:39,311
on our last, my own motion,

1628
00:58:39,311 --> 00:58:40,479
which I voted on incorrectly.

1629
00:58:40,479 --> 00:58:43,311
>>Mayor Pachota: so we're back

1630
00:58:43,311 --> 00:58:43,945
to 26-0701.

1631
00:58:43,945 --> 00:58:44,812
>> that's correct.

1632
00:58:44,812 --> 00:58:47,211
>>Mayor Pachota: MADAM Attorney,

1633
00:58:47,211 --> 00:58:48,645
how would we remedy his wish to

1634
00:58:48,645 --> 00:58:49,678
restate his vote?

1635
00:58:49,678 --> 00:58:51,945
>>Kelly m. Fernandez: I actually

1636
00:58:51,945 --> 00:58:53,612
need to look up robert's rules

1637
00:58:53,612 --> 00:58:54,145
of order on that to tell you the

1638
00:58:54,145 --> 00:58:55,578
proper procedure.

1639
00:58:55,578 --> 00:58:56,111
>>Mayor Pachota: we'll take a

1640
00:58:56,111 --> 00:58:58,111
five-minute break.

1641
00:58:58,210 --> 00:59:01,210
We'll be back at 28 after.

1642
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,440
[Sounding gavel]

1643
00:59:11,777 --> 00:59:13,777
>>Mayor Pachota: okay.

1644
00:59:15,644 --> 00:59:17,430
We are back, and MR. Howard has

1645
00:59:17,430 --> 00:59:21,243
a motion, or you can make a

1646
00:59:22,309 --> 00:59:22,676
motion, to amend your vote on

1647
00:59:22,676 --> 00:59:24,577
26-0701.

1648
00:59:24,577 --> 00:59:25,277
If you want to make that motion.

1649
00:59:25,277 --> 00:59:26,900
>>Kelly m. Fernandez: he doesn't

1650
00:59:26,900 --> 00:59:27,760
have to make a motion.

1651
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,770
It's really a request.

1652
00:59:29,770 --> 00:59:31,276
I believe you voted -- you voted

1653
00:59:31,276 --> 00:59:32,509
no and you intended to vote yes.

1654
00:59:32,509 --> 00:59:33,909
Is that the situation?

1655
00:59:33,909 --> 00:59:35,277
So that's his request.

1656
00:59:35,277 --> 00:59:37,577
If there's no objection from

1657
00:59:37,577 --> 00:59:41,177
anyone else on council, then his

1658
00:59:41,177 --> 00:59:42,844
vote can stand as adjusted to

1659
00:59:42,844 --> 00:59:44,440
the yes versus no.

1660
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:45,770
>>Mayor Pachota: any members of

1661
00:59:45,770 --> 00:59:48,770
council object to MR. Howard's

1662
00:59:50,277 --> 00:59:51,843
request?

1663
00:59:51,843 --> 00:59:52,711
Seeing none, let the record

1664
00:59:52,711 --> 00:59:54,770
reflect that MR. Howard is

1665
00:59:54,770 --> 00:59:57,677
voting in favor of the motion,

1666
00:59:59,210 --> 01:00:00,310
so it is a 6-1.

1667
01:00:00,310 --> 01:00:01,409
>>Rick Howard: I would like to

1668
01:00:01,409 --> 01:00:03,843
apologize to everyone in the

1669
01:00:03,843 --> 01:00:06,243
chambers and everyone listening.

1670
01:00:07,609 --> 01:00:09,100
Sometimes passion creates

1671
01:00:09,100 --> 01:00:09,443
freudian slips and I just had

1672
01:00:09,443 --> 01:00:11,443
one.

1673
01:00:12,177 --> 01:00:14,110
>>Mayor Pachota: moving on now,

1674
01:00:14,110 --> 01:00:17,710
we will go to ordinances final

1675
01:00:18,477 --> 01:00:18,743
reading, ordinance number

1676
01:00:18,743 --> 01:00:20,276
2026-22.

1677
01:00:20,276 --> 01:00:23,743
The public hearing is now open.

1678
01:00:23,743 --> 01:00:25,743
[Sounding gavel]

1679
01:00:25,777 --> 01:00:27,178
MADAM Clerk, when you're ready,

1680
01:00:27,178 --> 01:00:29,244
if you can go ahead and read

1681
01:00:29,244 --> 01:00:30,430
this by title only, please.

1682
01:00:30,430 --> 01:00:31,110
>>Kelly Michaels: an ordinance

1683
01:00:31,110 --> 01:00:33,110
of the city of venice, florida,

1684
01:00:33,110 --> 01:00:34,209
amending the code of ordinances,

1685
01:00:34,209 --> 01:00:36,209
chapter 87, land development

1686
01:00:36,843 --> 01:00:39,243
code, by amending section 2.4.3,

1687
01:00:40,276 --> 01:00:41,578
residential uses, adding section

1688
01:00:41,578 --> 01:00:43,578
6.11, certified recovery

1689
01:00:43,777 --> 01:00:46,177
residences, and amending section

1690
01:00:46,443 --> 01:00:48,843
9.1, defined terms, pursuant to

1691
01:00:50,710 --> 01:00:52,143
text amendment petition 26-22am

1692
01:00:52,143 --> 01:00:55,143
to establish procedures for the

1693
01:00:55,510 --> 01:00:58,900
review and approval of recovery

1694
01:00:58,900 --> 01:00:59,342
residences and a process for

1695
01:00:59,342 --> 01:01:01,342
requests for reasonable

1696
01:01:01,409 --> 01:01:02,243
accommodations from land use

1697
01:01:02,243 --> 01:01:03,977
regulations; providing for

1698
01:01:03,977 --> 01:01:05,943
repeal of all ordinances in

1699
01:01:05,943 --> 01:01:06,910
conflict herewith, providing for

1700
01:01:06,910 --> 01:01:08,343
severability, and providing an

1701
01:01:08,343 --> 01:01:09,442
effective date.

1702
01:01:09,442 --> 01:01:10,344
>>Mayor Pachota: do we have any

1703
01:01:10,344 --> 01:01:12,209
written communication since the

1704
01:01:12,209 --> 01:01:13,409
last hearing?

1705
01:01:13,409 --> 01:01:14,111
>>Kelly Michaels: no.

1706
01:01:14,111 --> 01:01:15,410
>>Mayor Pachota: all right.

1707
01:01:15,410 --> 01:01:19,100
Is there an update from staff

1708
01:01:20,143 --> 01:01:20,510
since the last hearing?

1709
01:01:20,510 --> 01:01:21,776
>> [Inaudible]

1710
01:01:21,776 --> 01:01:23,309
>>Mayor Pachota: okay.

1711
01:01:23,309 --> 01:01:24,543
MADAM Clerk, anybody signed up

1712
01:01:24,543 --> 01:01:25,643
to speak?

1713
01:01:25,643 --> 01:01:26,309
>>Kelly Michaels: no.

1714
01:01:26,309 --> 01:01:27,676
>>Mayor Pachota: the public

1715
01:01:27,676 --> 01:01:28,410
hearing is now closed.

1716
01:01:28,410 --> 01:01:30,410
[Sounding gavel]

1717
01:01:31,810 --> 01:01:33,110
I'll entertain a motion.

1718
01:01:33,110 --> 01:01:34,510
>>Vice Mayor Boldt: I move that

1719
01:01:34,510 --> 01:01:36,675
ordinance 2026-22 be approved

1720
01:01:36,675 --> 01:01:38,309
and adopted.

1721
01:01:38,309 --> 01:01:38,643
>>Mayor Pachota: seconded by MR.

1722
01:01:38,643 --> 01:01:40,643
Engelke.

1723
01:01:41,376 --> 01:01:42,743
Any council discussion?

1724
01:01:42,743 --> 01:01:43,843
Seeing none, MADAM Clerk, if

1725
01:01:43,843 --> 01:01:44,476
you'll ready us for an

1726
01:01:44,476 --> 01:01:45,376
electronic vote.

1727
01:01:45,376 --> 01:01:46,675
Council members, when your

1728
01:01:46,675 --> 01:01:49,675
lights are flashing, you can

1729
01:01:50,176 --> 01:01:52,176
indicate your vote.

1730
01:01:53,475 --> 01:01:54,475
MADAM Clerk, you can tally and

1731
01:01:54,475 --> 01:01:55,275
display the vote.

1732
01:01:55,275 --> 01:01:57,275
Passes unanimously.

1733
01:01:59,509 --> 01:02:01,509
[Sounding gavel]

1734
01:02:04,376 --> 01:02:04,609
We will move on to ordinance

1735
01:02:04,609 --> 01:02:06,276
2026-23.

1736
01:02:06,276 --> 01:02:06,676
The public hearing is now open.

1737
01:02:06,676 --> 01:02:07,743
[Sounding gavel]

1738
01:02:07,743 --> 01:02:08,843
MADAM Clerk, when you're ready,

1739
01:02:08,843 --> 01:02:10,642
you can go ahead and read this

1740
01:02:10,642 --> 01:02:11,477
ordinance by title only.

1741
01:02:11,477 --> 01:02:12,810
>>Kelly Michaels: an ordinance

1742
01:02:12,810 --> 01:02:14,643
of the city of venice, florida,

1743
01:02:14,643 --> 01:02:16,109
amending the code of ordinances

1744
01:02:16,109 --> 01:02:18,109
chapter 87, land development

1745
01:02:18,509 --> 01:02:19,409
code by amending section 1.9.3

1746
01:02:19,409 --> 01:02:20,943
specific application

1747
01:02:20,943 --> 01:02:22,943
requirements, amending and

1748
01:02:23,430 --> 01:02:25,430
renumbering section 1.10,

1749
01:02:26,476 --> 01:02:28,476
preliminary plat (Quasi-judicial

1750
01:02:29,211 --> 01:02:31,211
application), amending section

1751
01:02:31,544 --> 01:02:33,544
3.1.1, building height, section

1752
01:02:33,843 --> 01:02:35,843
3.1.2, block configuration

1753
01:02:36,576 --> 01:02:38,576
requirements, section 3.1.4

1754
01:02:41,609 --> 01:02:43,409
building placement requirements,

1755
01:02:43,409 --> 01:02:45,409
3.1.9 accessory uses and

1756
01:02:46,376 --> 01:02:48,376
structures, section 3.5.2 exempt

1757
01:02:51,109 --> 01:02:53,109
signs, section 3.6.1 off-street

1758
01:02:55,808 --> 01:02:57,808
parking, tables 3.6.1 and 3.6.6

1759
01:02:58,808 --> 01:03:01,208
parking requirements by use,

1760
01:03:01,576 --> 01:03:03,443
section 3.6.5 design standards,

1761
01:03:03,443 --> 01:03:05,443
section 3.8.1 purpose and

1762
01:03:05,875 --> 01:03:07,875
applicability, section 3.8.3,

1763
01:03:11,143 --> 01:03:13,776
fences and walls material and

1764
01:03:13,776 --> 01:03:15,776
design standards, section 3.8.4,

1765
01:03:18,276 --> 01:03:19,576
height of fences and walls,

1766
01:03:19,576 --> 01:03:21,576
section 7.8.1, certificate of

1767
01:03:21,843 --> 01:03:23,609
architectural compliance.

1768
01:03:23,609 --> 01:03:26,900
Section 7.10.9 fences and walls

1769
01:03:26,243 --> 01:03:28,142
and section 9.1 defined terms,

1770
01:03:28,142 --> 01:03:30,443
pursuant to text amendment

1771
01:03:30,443 --> 01:03:32,544
petition 25-12am to resolve

1772
01:03:32,544 --> 01:03:34,176
issues discovered through the

1773
01:03:34,176 --> 01:03:35,309
implementation of the land

1774
01:03:35,309 --> 01:03:37,176
development code, providing for

1775
01:03:37,176 --> 01:03:39,309
repeal of all ordinances in

1776
01:03:39,309 --> 01:03:40,770
conflict herewith, providing for

1777
01:03:40,770 --> 01:03:42,477
severability, and providing an

1778
01:03:43,176 --> 01:03:43,809
effective date.

1779
01:03:43,809 --> 01:03:45,543
>>Mayor Pachota: MADAM Clerk,

1780
01:03:45,543 --> 01:03:47,643
have we received any written

1781
01:03:47,643 --> 01:03:48,420
communication since last

1782
01:03:48,420 --> 01:03:48,576
hearing?

1783
01:03:48,576 --> 01:03:49,243
>>Kelly Michaels: none.

1784
01:03:49,243 --> 01:03:50,943
>>Mayor Pachota: do we have a

1785
01:03:50,943 --> 01:03:51,742
staff update on this one?

1786
01:03:51,742 --> 01:03:52,609
>>James Clinch: no, sir, unless

1787
01:03:52,609 --> 01:03:54,343
there are any questions.

1788
01:03:54,343 --> 01:03:57,760
>>Mayor Pachota: I actually do

1789
01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:59,976
have some questions, specific to

1790
01:03:59,976 --> 01:04:02,976
the signage, temporary signs and

1791
01:04:07,710 --> 01:04:08,775
such.

1792
01:04:08,775 --> 01:04:10,775
>> good morning.

1793
01:04:11,509 --> 01:04:13,900
For the record, nicole tremblay,

1794
01:04:13,900 --> 01:04:13,442
senior planner for the city of

1795
01:04:13,442 --> 01:04:14,609
venice.

1796
01:04:14,609 --> 01:04:15,642
What questions do you have?

1797
01:04:15,642 --> 01:04:17,760
>>Mayor Pachota: I was waiting

1798
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,900
for the introduction.

1799
01:04:19,900 --> 01:04:20,776
I received some feedback as it

1800
01:04:20,776 --> 01:04:22,576
relates to, sounds like it is

1801
01:04:22,576 --> 01:04:24,776
political sign related, we're in

1802
01:04:24,776 --> 01:04:27,642
political season so it makes

1803
01:04:27,642 --> 01:04:31,176
sense, that our code is more

1804
01:04:31,176 --> 01:04:31,910
strict than sarasota county and

1805
01:04:31,910 --> 01:04:32,475
manatee county.

1806
01:04:32,475 --> 01:04:34,475
I'm curious.

1807
01:04:34,875 --> 01:04:36,760
It sounds like we have a square

1808
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:38,420
footage based on the size of the

1809
01:04:38,420 --> 01:04:41,420
building and some things that

1810
01:04:41,475 --> 01:04:41,775
make it a little bit

1811
01:04:41,775 --> 01:04:42,742
complicated.

1812
01:04:42,742 --> 01:04:44,475
I wanted to see if we could

1813
01:04:44,475 --> 01:04:46,141
discuss that and if there's any

1814
01:04:46,141 --> 01:04:49,900
merit to the idea of being a

1815
01:04:49,900 --> 01:04:51,541
little closer to the county code

1816
01:04:51,541 --> 01:04:52,309
so as to avoid confusion during

1817
01:04:52,309 --> 01:04:54,309
this time.

1818
01:04:55,375 --> 01:04:57,409
One of the big reasons that --

1819
01:04:57,409 --> 01:05:00,609
I'll say this carefully -- one

1820
01:05:00,609 --> 01:05:01,941
of the reasons that we went

1821
01:05:01,941 --> 01:05:03,341
along with the voter referendum

1822
01:05:03,341 --> 01:05:06,941
and kind of changed our terms

1823
01:05:06,976 --> 01:05:07,842
and when they coincide, it was a

1824
01:05:07,842 --> 01:05:10,750
lower-hanging fruit but it was

1825
01:05:10,750 --> 01:05:11,420
because we go through this every

1826
01:05:11,420 --> 01:05:12,342
year where there are political

1827
01:05:12,342 --> 01:05:13,442
signs all over town.

1828
01:05:13,442 --> 01:05:14,409
It was going to be nice to have

1829
01:05:14,409 --> 01:05:16,809
a little time off.

1830
01:05:17,476 --> 01:05:18,876
At the same time, I don't want

1831
01:05:18,876 --> 01:05:21,475
to reduce anybody's freedom or

1832
01:05:21,475 --> 01:05:23,475
ability to properly advertise

1833
01:05:23,475 --> 01:05:26,209
their campaign so that we're

1834
01:05:26,209 --> 01:05:26,409
being more strict than somebody

1835
01:05:26,409 --> 01:05:28,409
else.

1836
01:05:28,475 --> 01:05:30,342
>>Nicole Tremblay: okay.

1837
01:05:30,342 --> 01:05:32,541
I don't know the county's code

1838
01:05:32,541 --> 01:05:33,775
off the top of my head.

1839
01:05:33,775 --> 01:05:35,800
But the sign standards related

1840
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:36,875
to the size of the building and

1841
01:05:36,875 --> 01:05:37,875
things like that are for

1842
01:05:37,875 --> 01:05:39,875
permanent signs.

1843
01:05:42,420 --> 01:05:44,275
So a temporary sign, now, they

1844
01:05:44,275 --> 01:05:46,675
are not explicitly political

1845
01:05:47,341 --> 01:05:49,209
because we're not able to

1846
01:05:49,209 --> 01:05:52,209
determine the content that way.

1847
01:05:53,608 --> 01:05:56,641
But the temporary signs, it says

1848
01:05:56,641 --> 01:05:59,375
MAY not exceed three square feet

1849
01:05:59,375 --> 01:06:02,242
for residential property or --

1850
01:06:02,242 --> 01:06:04,740
you know what, I apologize.

1851
01:06:04,740 --> 01:06:05,842
Put it at a nonresidential

1852
01:06:05,842 --> 01:06:07,509
property, you do have one square

1853
01:06:07,509 --> 01:06:07,941
foot per linear foot of

1854
01:06:07,941 --> 01:06:08,709
building.

1855
01:06:08,709 --> 01:06:09,342
We typically see them in

1856
01:06:09,342 --> 01:06:10,900
residential.

1857
01:06:10,900 --> 01:06:11,908
I apologize.

1858
01:06:11,908 --> 01:06:16,108
Can I look up the county's code

1859
01:06:17,750 --> 01:06:18,309
and bring it back.

1860
01:06:18,309 --> 01:06:19,842
Either later today or at the

1861
01:06:19,842 --> 01:06:20,475
next meeting.

1862
01:06:20,475 --> 01:06:22,241
>>Mayor Pachota: I would ask

1863
01:06:22,241 --> 01:06:23,420
you, is it better for us

1864
01:06:23,420 --> 01:06:23,941
procedurally to get through,

1865
01:06:23,941 --> 01:06:25,109
because there are a lot of

1866
01:06:25,109 --> 01:06:26,674
things on this that I would like

1867
01:06:26,674 --> 01:06:28,410
to see us get through.

1868
01:06:28,410 --> 01:06:29,475
Perhaps I put this on the agenda

1869
01:06:29,475 --> 01:06:30,609
to readdress the specific item

1870
01:06:30,609 --> 01:06:31,575
at another meeting.

1871
01:06:31,575 --> 01:06:33,800
>>Nicole Tremblay: that would be

1872
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:34,475
fine with me if we want to pull

1873
01:06:34,475 --> 01:06:35,900
just this item and talk about it

1874
01:06:35,900 --> 01:06:35,974
again later.

1875
01:06:35,974 --> 01:06:36,642
>>Mayor Pachota: I'm okay with

1876
01:06:36,642 --> 01:06:38,641
doing that.

1877
01:06:38,641 --> 01:06:40,375
I'll put it on a future agenda.

1878
01:06:40,375 --> 01:06:41,542
I just wanted to make sure that,

1879
01:06:41,542 --> 01:06:42,975
you know, I don't want to stop

1880
01:06:42,975 --> 01:06:44,740
the train on some of these other

1881
01:06:44,740 --> 01:06:44,609
things that are pretty common

1882
01:06:44,609 --> 01:06:46,609
sense.

1883
01:06:46,809 --> 01:06:48,108
On this particular one, I have

1884
01:06:48,108 --> 01:06:49,475
received feedback and I want to

1885
01:06:49,475 --> 01:06:51,142
make sure that we at least

1886
01:06:51,142 --> 01:06:53,241
address the feedback in a proper

1887
01:06:53,241 --> 01:06:54,541
way, whether, it's, no, we like

1888
01:06:54,541 --> 01:06:56,341
being more strict or whether we

1889
01:06:56,341 --> 01:06:58,740
want to come in line with the

1890
01:06:58,740 --> 01:06:59,740
county's code, whatever it might

1891
01:06:59,740 --> 01:07:00,741
be, I want to make sure we do

1892
01:07:00,741 --> 01:07:01,342
that properly and give the

1893
01:07:01,342 --> 01:07:03,742
residents an opportunity to

1894
01:07:04,750 --> 01:07:04,741
speak to it.

1895
01:07:04,741 --> 01:07:06,941
>>Nicole Tremblay: that is fine

1896
01:07:06,941 --> 01:07:08,410
with me.

1897
01:07:08,410 --> 01:07:09,875
>>Roger Clark: roger clark,

1898
01:07:09,875 --> 01:07:10,743
planning and zoning director.

1899
01:07:10,743 --> 01:07:11,341
I want to make sure i

1900
01:07:11,341 --> 01:07:12,575
understand.

1901
01:07:12,575 --> 01:07:13,874
You're going to pull this

1902
01:07:13,874 --> 01:07:16,307
individual amendment and let the

1903
01:07:16,307 --> 01:07:18,407
other ones be approved?

1904
01:07:18,407 --> 01:07:19,842
If that's your plan, I have a

1905
01:07:19,842 --> 01:07:22,274
little issue with that because

1906
01:07:22,274 --> 01:07:23,908
that's going to eliminate the 90

1907
01:07:23,908 --> 01:07:25,375
days that this is changing to,

1908
01:07:25,375 --> 01:07:26,907
which I know is something that

1909
01:07:26,907 --> 01:07:28,442
was originally requested.

1910
01:07:28,442 --> 01:07:30,775
>>Mayor Pachota: so my plan was

1911
01:07:30,775 --> 01:07:33,420
actually to let this go the way

1912
01:07:33,420 --> 01:07:35,442
it is, and then just kind of put

1913
01:07:35,442 --> 01:07:38,241
you on notice gently that I'm

1914
01:07:38,241 --> 01:07:39,674
going to bring this back at

1915
01:07:39,674 --> 01:07:41,542
another agenda so we can talk

1916
01:07:41,542 --> 01:07:42,809
about finite details of that

1917
01:07:42,809 --> 01:07:43,842
specific piece of the code and

1918
01:07:43,842 --> 01:07:45,642
make some changes to that.

1919
01:07:45,642 --> 01:07:45,875
I don't want to delay the

1920
01:07:45,875 --> 01:07:47,475
process.

1921
01:07:47,475 --> 01:07:49,341
I don't see the need since we're

1922
01:07:49,341 --> 01:07:50,575
on our second hearing and kind

1923
01:07:50,575 --> 01:07:52,341
of at the finish line.

1924
01:07:52,341 --> 01:07:54,142
I do want to readdress this

1925
01:07:54,142 --> 01:07:56,107
since it's now been brought up.

1926
01:07:56,107 --> 01:07:57,242
I'll put it on the next agenda

1927
01:07:57,242 --> 01:07:57,876
and we can isolate that

1928
01:07:57,876 --> 01:07:59,642
particular item.

1929
01:07:59,642 --> 01:08:02,608
As far as today, I would like to

1930
01:08:02,608 --> 01:08:04,642
move forward as is with all of

1931
01:08:04,642 --> 01:08:06,242
us on the same page now, that I

1932
01:08:06,242 --> 01:08:08,107
have had some conversation, and

1933
01:08:08,107 --> 01:08:09,575
we do need to look at it a

1934
01:08:09,575 --> 01:08:10,342
little tighter.

1935
01:08:10,342 --> 01:08:11,975
>>Roger Clark: I understand.

1936
01:08:11,975 --> 01:08:13,108
I don't want to lose that 90

1937
01:08:13,108 --> 01:08:13,808
days we put in place.

1938
01:08:13,808 --> 01:08:14,607
>>Mayor Pachota: I don't want to

1939
01:08:14,607 --> 01:08:15,675
stop the train.

1940
01:08:15,675 --> 01:08:17,375
I want to make sure I'm on the

1941
01:08:17,375 --> 01:08:18,541
record for saying I received

1942
01:08:18,541 --> 01:08:20,674
some feedback and I think we

1943
01:08:20,674 --> 01:08:21,800
need to address it at a later

1944
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:21,774
date.

1945
01:08:21,774 --> 01:08:22,775
>>Nicole Tremblay: thank you.

1946
01:08:22,775 --> 01:08:23,807
>>Roger Clark: thank you.

1947
01:08:23,807 --> 01:08:25,475
>>Mayor Pachota: okay.

1948
01:08:25,475 --> 01:08:29,750
With that, anyone else have any

1949
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:30,641
questions of staff? Okay.

1950
01:08:30,641 --> 01:08:32,374
madam clerk, do you have anybody

1951
01:08:32,374 --> 01:08:32,875
signed up to speak?

1952
01:08:32,875 --> 01:08:33,975
>>Kelly Michaels: no.

1953
01:08:33,975 --> 01:08:34,941
>>Mayor Pachota: with that,

1954
01:08:34,941 --> 01:08:36,908
we'll close the public hearing.

1955
01:08:36,908 --> 01:08:38,141
I'll go ahead and move that

1956
01:08:38,141 --> 01:08:39,808
ordinance 2026-23 be approved

1957
01:08:39,808 --> 01:08:41,808
and adopted.

1958
01:08:42,441 --> 01:08:44,841
Seconded by MR. Howard.

1959
01:08:45,607 --> 01:08:46,807
Any council discussion?

1960
01:08:46,807 --> 01:08:48,240
Seeing none, MADAM Clerk, if

1961
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:48,775
you'll make us ready for an

1962
01:08:48,775 --> 01:08:49,709
electronic vote.

1963
01:08:49,709 --> 01:08:51,240
Council members, when your

1964
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,340
lights are flashing, you can

1965
01:08:53,340 --> 01:08:55,340
indicate your vote.

1966
01:08:55,541 --> 01:08:56,708
MADAM Clerk, you can tally and

1967
01:08:56,708 --> 01:08:57,840
display the vote.

1968
01:08:57,840 --> 01:08:59,840
Passes unanimously.

1969
01:09:06,175 --> 01:09:06,375
[Sounding gavel]

1970
01:09:06,375 --> 01:09:08,375
Okay.

1971
01:09:09,408 --> 01:09:10,475
We are now on to new business

1972
01:09:10,475 --> 01:09:12,475
ordinances.

1973
01:09:12,774 --> 01:09:14,800
Ordinance 2026-24.

1974
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:15,208
MADAM Clerk, when you are ready,

1975
01:09:15,208 --> 01:09:16,941
you can go ahead and read this

1976
01:09:16,941 --> 01:09:18,374
ordinance by title only, please.

1977
01:09:18,374 --> 01:09:19,541
>>Kelly Michaels: an ordinance

1978
01:09:19,541 --> 01:09:21,941
amending city of venice

1979
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:23,375
ordinance number 2025-32 as

1980
01:09:23,375 --> 01:09:24,341
previously amended which adopted

1981
01:09:24,341 --> 01:09:25,876
the official budget of the city

1982
01:09:25,876 --> 01:09:27,442
of venice, florida, for the

1983
01:09:27,442 --> 01:09:29,842
fiscal year beginning OCTOBER 1,

1984
01:09:30,508 --> 01:09:32,474
2025, and ending SEPTEMBER 30,

1985
01:09:32,474 --> 01:09:34,874
2026, by increasing the total

1986
01:09:36,808 --> 01:09:39,208
revenue by 6,476,400 and total

1987
01:09:41,274 --> 01:09:43,274
expenditures by 6,476,400, and

1988
01:09:43,908 --> 01:09:44,841
providing an effective date.

1989
01:09:44,841 --> 01:09:46,374
>>Mayor Pachota: MADAM Clerk, do

1990
01:09:46,374 --> 01:09:46,841
you have anybody signed up to

1991
01:09:46,841 --> 01:09:47,341
speak?

1992
01:09:47,341 --> 01:09:48,340
>>Kelly Michaels: no.

1993
01:09:48,340 --> 01:09:51,340
>>Mayor Pachota: with that, I'll

1994
01:09:51,741 --> 01:09:52,774
entertain a motion.

1995
01:09:52,774 --> 01:09:54,674
>>Kevin Engelke: I move to

1996
01:09:54,674 --> 01:09:56,308
approve ordinance 2026-24 on

1997
01:09:56,308 --> 01:09:58,400
first reading and schedule it

1998
01:09:58,400 --> 01:09:59,241
for final reading.

1999
01:09:59,241 --> 01:10:00,400
>>Mayor Pachota: seconded by

2000
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,400
vice mayor boldt.

2001
01:10:02,774 --> 01:10:03,774
Any council discussion?

2002
01:10:03,774 --> 01:10:05,341
Seeing none, MADAM Clerk, if

2003
01:10:05,341 --> 01:10:06,400
you'll make us ready for an

2004
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:06,974
electronic vote.

2005
01:10:06,974 --> 01:10:09,308
Council members when your lights

2006
01:10:09,308 --> 01:10:10,508
are flashing, you MAY indicate

2007
01:10:10,508 --> 01:10:12,410
your vote.

2008
01:10:12,410 --> 01:10:13,410
MADAM Clerk, you can tally and

2009
01:10:13,410 --> 01:10:14,140
display the vote.

2010
01:10:14,140 --> 01:10:16,140
Passes unanimously.

2011
01:10:22,274 --> 01:10:22,841
[Sounding gavel]

2012
01:10:22,841 --> 01:10:24,273
All right.

2013
01:10:24,273 --> 01:10:27,273
We are on to resolutions,

2014
01:10:29,875 --> 01:10:31,274
resolution number 2026-15.

2015
01:10:31,274 --> 01:10:32,974
MADAM Clerk, when you're ready,

2016
01:10:32,974 --> 01:10:34,274
you can go ahead and read this

2017
01:10:34,274 --> 01:10:34,507
resolution by title only,

2018
01:10:34,507 --> 01:10:35,173
please.

2019
01:10:35,173 --> 01:10:36,708
>>Kelly Michaels: a resolution

2020
01:10:36,708 --> 01:10:38,208
of the city of venice, florida,

2021
01:10:38,208 --> 01:10:40,108
accepting utilities and

2022
01:10:40,108 --> 01:10:41,540
improvements installed by

2023
01:10:41,540 --> 01:10:43,540
southwest florida retirement

2024
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:44,408
center inc. And accepting a

2025
01:10:44,408 --> 01:10:46,410
one-year developers maintenance

2026
01:10:46,410 --> 01:10:47,308
bond and bill of sale, providing

2027
01:10:47,308 --> 01:10:48,174
an effective date.

2028
01:10:48,174 --> 01:10:49,410
>>Mayor Pachota: MADAM Clerk, do

2029
01:10:49,410 --> 01:10:50,341
you have anybody signed up to

2030
01:10:50,341 --> 01:10:50,840
speak?

2031
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:51,441
>>Kelly Michaels: no.

2032
01:10:51,441 --> 01:10:53,574
>>Mayor Pachota: all right.

2033
01:10:53,574 --> 01:10:55,674
Then with that, I'll entertain a

2034
01:10:55,674 --> 01:10:56,440
motion.

2035
01:10:56,440 --> 01:10:58,740
MR. Vice mayor.

2036
01:10:58,740 --> 01:10:59,673
>>Vice Mayor Boldt: I move

2037
01:10:59,673 --> 01:11:02,730
resolution 2026-15 be approved

2038
01:11:03,440 --> 01:11:04,506
and adopted.

2039
01:11:04,506 --> 01:11:06,906
>>Mayor Pachota: seconded by

2040
01:11:07,241 --> 01:11:09,207
MS. Frank.

2041
01:11:09,207 --> 01:11:10,741
Any council discussion?

2042
01:11:10,741 --> 01:11:11,941
Seeing none, MADAM Clerk, if

2043
01:11:11,941 --> 01:11:12,441
you'll ready us for an

2044
01:11:12,441 --> 01:11:13,406
electronic vote.

2045
01:11:13,406 --> 01:11:15,740
Council members, when your

2046
01:11:15,740 --> 01:11:17,273
lights are flashing, you can

2047
01:11:17,273 --> 01:11:19,273
indicate your vote.

2048
01:11:19,675 --> 01:11:21,841
MADAM Clerk, you can tally and

2049
01:11:21,841 --> 01:11:22,574
display the vote.

2050
01:11:22,574 --> 01:11:24,574
passes unanimously.

2051
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:28,800
[Sounding gavel]

2052
01:11:28,608 --> 01:11:32,208
We are now on to presentations.

2053
01:11:32,607 --> 01:11:33,973
Presentation 26-0702, and this

2054
01:11:33,973 --> 01:11:36,941
is finance director linda senne

2055
01:11:36,941 --> 01:11:37,707
with the quarterly financial

2056
01:11:37,707 --> 01:11:38,707
update.

2057
01:11:38,707 --> 01:11:42,907
MS. Senne, if you would like to

2058
01:12:02,274 --> 01:12:04,274
come down.

2059
01:12:21,374 --> 01:12:21,974
>>Linda Senne: good morning,

2060
01:12:21,974 --> 01:12:22,840
mayor and council.

2061
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:23,374
Linda senne.

2062
01:12:23,374 --> 01:12:25,374
Finance director.

2063
01:12:26,774 --> 01:12:28,439
This is the quarterly financial

2064
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:32,390
report as of JUNE 30, so nine

2065
01:12:33,239 --> 01:12:35,374
months into fiscal year '26.

2066
01:12:35,374 --> 01:12:36,840
As of today, number one on

2067
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:39,239
there, the property tax revenue.

2068
01:12:39,239 --> 01:12:41,740
We collected 100% of our budget

2069
01:12:41,740 --> 01:12:43,400
amount at this point in time,

2070
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,506
which is -- we always generally

2071
01:12:45,506 --> 01:12:46,208
collect our money by JUNE 30 for

2072
01:12:46,208 --> 01:12:47,674
the property taxes for the

2073
01:12:47,674 --> 01:12:49,674
fiscal year.

2074
01:12:50,740 --> 01:12:53,700
The fire and insurance premium

2075
01:12:53,700 --> 01:12:54,700
tax, which is the number 2, is

2076
01:12:54,700 --> 01:12:55,407
as of now zero.

2077
01:12:55,407 --> 01:12:57,507
We generally get that money in

2078
01:12:57,507 --> 01:13:00,507
AUGUST or later in SEPTEMBER.

2079
01:13:02,107 --> 01:13:04,474
So that shows zero collections.

2080
01:13:04,474 --> 01:13:05,440
Our communication taxes is

2081
01:13:05,440 --> 01:13:07,440
slightly above.

2082
01:13:07,639 --> 01:13:07,873
74 -- slightly below at 74

2083
01:13:07,873 --> 01:13:09,700
percent.

2084
01:13:09,700 --> 01:13:10,907
At this point in time, we should

2085
01:13:10,907 --> 01:13:12,907
be at 75 percent.

2086
01:13:13,874 --> 01:13:15,506
That's just slightly below.

2087
01:13:15,506 --> 01:13:16,607
The utility service tax is

2088
01:13:16,607 --> 01:13:18,340
slightly -- that's the one that

2089
01:13:18,340 --> 01:13:20,340
is above at 82%.

2090
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:22,839
That's the number four.

2091
01:13:23,940 --> 01:13:25,974
82% at this point in time.

2092
01:13:25,974 --> 01:13:28,974
The franchise fees are at 81%,

2093
01:13:31,674 --> 01:13:34,740
which is the number 5.

2094
01:13:36,740 --> 01:13:36,973
Licenses and permits are below

2095
01:13:36,973 --> 01:13:38,973
target.

2096
01:13:43,306 --> 01:13:45,700
They are at 239,000 -- 239,625.

2097
01:13:45,700 --> 01:13:48,700
The majority is business tax

2098
01:13:48,173 --> 01:13:49,506
receipts, makes up 29805.

2099
01:13:49,506 --> 01:13:50,840
Majority of those licenses come

2100
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:51,973
in AUGUST and SEPTEMBER.

2101
01:13:51,973 --> 01:13:54,473
That's again where we get the

2102
01:13:54,473 --> 01:13:55,673
money in AUGUST and SEPTEMBER

2103
01:13:55,673 --> 01:13:57,140
for business tax receipts, and

2104
01:13:57,140 --> 01:13:59,773
then the other bigger part is

2105
01:13:59,773 --> 01:14:02,173
the zoning and permit

2106
01:14:03,806 --> 01:14:06,206
certifications which makes up

2107
01:14:07,407 --> 01:14:08,508
168,048 at this point in time.

2108
01:14:08,508 --> 01:14:10,508
7, the investment income.

2109
01:14:12,873 --> 01:14:13,407
We are higher above than what we

2110
01:14:13,407 --> 01:14:15,407
-- sorry.

2111
01:14:16,839 --> 01:14:17,106
The 7 is the intergovernmental

2112
01:14:17,106 --> 01:14:19,106
revenues.

2113
01:14:19,873 --> 01:14:23,473
And the city received for the

2114
01:14:24,539 --> 01:14:25,641
first year $265,000 under an ice

2115
01:14:25,641 --> 01:14:28,410
agreement that we have.

2116
01:14:28,907 --> 01:14:31,173
We also received $298,000 from

2117
01:14:31,173 --> 01:14:33,106
fema as reimbursements that are

2118
01:14:33,106 --> 01:14:34,740
due to hurricane ian and milton.

2119
01:14:34,740 --> 01:14:35,506
Some of those are way back from

2120
01:14:35,506 --> 01:14:36,673
hurricane ian.

2121
01:14:36,673 --> 01:14:38,308
So that goes to show you how

2122
01:14:38,308 --> 01:14:41,908
long it takes sometimes to get

2123
01:14:41,940 --> 01:14:44,473
our money reimbursed from fema.

2124
01:14:44,473 --> 01:14:46,239
And then also state revenue

2125
01:14:46,239 --> 01:14:49,239
sharing is on target, slightly

2126
01:14:50,173 --> 01:14:51,730
above at 76%, and the government

2127
01:14:51,730 --> 01:14:52,540
half-cent sales tax is right on

2128
01:14:52,540 --> 01:14:54,540
target at 75%.

2129
01:14:55,408 --> 01:14:57,640
And those are all the number

2130
01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:00,773
sevens that you see in red.

2131
01:15:00,773 --> 01:15:01,640
And then for charges for

2132
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:04,400
services, they are slightly

2133
01:15:05,707 --> 01:15:08,306
below target at 74%, and the ems

2134
01:15:08,306 --> 01:15:11,306
transport fees are right at 74%

2135
01:15:16,205 --> 01:15:18,205
also.

2136
01:15:18,740 --> 01:15:19,440
Number 9 is the investment

2137
01:15:19,440 --> 01:15:20,706
earnings.

2138
01:15:20,706 --> 01:15:21,373
So we are above target at this

2139
01:15:21,373 --> 01:15:22,740
point in time.

2140
01:15:22,740 --> 01:15:26,340
We collected more than what we

2141
01:15:27,572 --> 01:15:29,674
have budgeted for this.

2142
01:15:29,674 --> 01:15:30,573
We budgeted, so we're above that

2143
01:15:30,573 --> 01:15:32,741
dollar amount by hundred

2144
01:15:32,741 --> 01:15:34,741
percent.

2145
01:15:34,806 --> 01:15:36,730
For miscellaneous revenues for

2146
01:15:36,730 --> 01:15:37,740
the first nine months we're

2147
01:15:37,740 --> 01:15:39,173
already above the budgeted

2148
01:15:39,173 --> 01:15:41,373
amount for the entire year.

2149
01:15:41,373 --> 01:15:43,606
The second quarter, which was in

2150
01:15:43,606 --> 01:15:44,606
the MARCH quarter is when we

2151
01:15:44,606 --> 01:15:47,600
received the contribution from

2152
01:15:47,140 --> 01:15:48,440
the venice pier group and then

2153
01:15:48,440 --> 01:15:50,840
also our other miscellaneous

2154
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:53,506
revenue includes a bank rebate

2155
01:15:53,506 --> 01:15:54,972
of almost $67,000 that we get

2156
01:15:54,972 --> 01:15:55,606
for the city using the

2157
01:15:55,606 --> 01:15:57,506
purchasing card.

2158
01:15:57,506 --> 01:15:59,640
We get a rebate back from the

2159
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:03,139
bank when we use our p-card.

2160
01:16:03,139 --> 01:16:04,206
Also, we had $87,000 of

2161
01:16:04,206 --> 01:16:06,606
insurance settlements this year

2162
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:08,640
so far.

2163
01:16:11,472 --> 01:16:12,973
General fund expenses, they are

2164
01:16:12,973 --> 01:16:15,172
projected at where we expect

2165
01:16:15,172 --> 01:16:15,373
them to be at this point in

2166
01:16:15,373 --> 01:16:16,473
time.

2167
01:16:16,473 --> 01:16:17,674
They are tracking well.

2168
01:16:17,674 --> 01:16:19,639
There's only one department.

2169
01:16:19,639 --> 01:16:22,140
That's the one we have in pink,

2170
01:16:22,140 --> 01:16:22,906
which that was also noted on the

2171
01:16:22,906 --> 01:16:24,640
last quarterly report that

2172
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:26,400
exceeds the 75% target.

2173
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:28,973
That's due to the $5 million

2174
01:16:28,973 --> 01:16:31,506
that we paid to sarasota county

2175
01:16:31,506 --> 01:16:33,906
for the wellfield park.

2176
01:16:34,239 --> 01:16:35,806
I'll go back to this page, the

2177
01:16:35,806 --> 01:16:38,806
ending fund balance of SEPTEMBER

2178
01:16:39,672 --> 01:16:42,720
30 of '25 was 35.3 million.

2179
01:16:43,730 --> 01:16:46,730
That's this number right here.

2180
01:16:46,730 --> 01:16:48,305
That was SEPTEMBER 30 of '25,

2181
01:16:48,305 --> 01:16:48,740
and we had project rollover of

2182
01:16:48,740 --> 01:16:50,740
2.1.

2183
01:16:51,906 --> 01:16:54,106
So at the end of fiscal '26,

2184
01:16:54,106 --> 01:16:56,906
we're expecting that the fund

2185
01:16:56,906 --> 01:16:58,473
balance will be up to 29

2186
01:16:58,473 --> 01:16:59,973
million.

2187
01:16:59,973 --> 01:17:01,940
And then I'm just going to make

2188
01:17:01,940 --> 01:17:04,139
a note, when you see the

2189
01:17:04,139 --> 01:17:05,139
proposed budget of that net

2190
01:17:05,139 --> 01:17:06,740
revenues, on the far right

2191
01:17:06,740 --> 01:17:08,339
column, the negative 800,000,

2192
01:17:08,339 --> 01:17:09,773
that's what we had at the

2193
01:17:09,773 --> 01:17:12,573
proposed budget when we did the

2194
01:17:12,573 --> 01:17:13,973
proposed budget, that was for

2195
01:17:13,973 --> 01:17:16,305
the $800,000 transfer into the

2196
01:17:16,305 --> 01:17:17,539
new fleet and operating fund

2197
01:17:17,539 --> 01:17:19,706
we're going to make.

2198
01:17:19,706 --> 01:17:21,539
When I'm talking this afternoon

2199
01:17:21,539 --> 01:17:22,739
or the next part when I talk

2200
01:17:22,739 --> 01:17:24,605
about the changes since then,

2201
01:17:24,605 --> 01:17:26,173
this is the number that slightly

2202
01:17:26,173 --> 01:17:28,720
changes, just so you're aware.

2203
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:29,406
You won't see this whole thing,

2204
01:17:29,406 --> 01:17:31,380
unless you want me to bring it

2205
01:17:31,380 --> 01:17:32,390
back up again when I go over the

2206
01:17:32,390 --> 01:17:34,939
changes for the proposed budget

2207
01:17:34,939 --> 01:17:35,905
that's later on the agenda.

2208
01:17:35,905 --> 01:17:37,873
The $800,000 number is the final

2209
01:17:37,873 --> 01:17:38,772
number that changes.

2210
01:17:38,772 --> 01:17:39,838
When I'm talking about the

2211
01:17:39,838 --> 01:17:41,473
change, that will be the change.

2212
01:17:41,473 --> 01:17:42,905
When you see the net revenues

2213
01:17:42,905 --> 01:17:45,305
number, it's slightly different

2214
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:48,439
than the $800,000 now for the

2215
01:17:49,773 --> 01:17:52,173
fiscal '27 proposed budget.

2216
01:17:52,438 --> 01:17:53,406
Any questions to date on the

2217
01:17:53,406 --> 01:17:55,406
general fund?

2218
01:17:57,672 --> 01:18:00,720
>>Mayor Pachota: MR. Smith.

2219
01:18:00,739 --> 01:18:01,672
>>Ron Smith: thank you, mayor.

2220
01:18:01,672 --> 01:18:04,639
Thank you for that report.

2221
01:18:04,639 --> 01:18:06,606
It's a lot to take in, and I

2222
01:18:06,606 --> 01:18:08,839
look forward to the discussion

2223
01:18:08,839 --> 01:18:09,606
later, what's changed with the

2224
01:18:09,606 --> 01:18:12,239
funding of these positions that

2225
01:18:12,239 --> 01:18:14,639
we wanted to add.

2226
01:18:14,972 --> 01:18:17,339
But my question is something

2227
01:18:17,339 --> 01:18:17,540
I've asked before about the fema

2228
01:18:17,540 --> 01:18:19,540
money.

2229
01:18:20,805 --> 01:18:21,872
You say more came in.

2230
01:18:21,872 --> 01:18:23,739
If I understand correctly,

2231
01:18:23,739 --> 01:18:24,838
there's still a whole bunch more

2232
01:18:24,838 --> 01:18:26,600
we're hoping to get.

2233
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:28,972
Could you talk about that?

2234
01:18:28,972 --> 01:18:31,306
I think in the next budget we

2235
01:18:31,306 --> 01:18:32,506
didn't show any revenue from

2236
01:18:32,506 --> 01:18:34,500
fema because we can't be sure

2237
01:18:34,500 --> 01:18:36,606
it's coming, but you told me

2238
01:18:36,606 --> 01:18:37,606
there was a big number we're

2239
01:18:37,606 --> 01:18:39,606
hoping to get.

2240
01:18:39,805 --> 01:18:41,539
Was this another number, the

2241
01:18:41,539 --> 01:18:42,706
money we just got from fema, is

2242
01:18:42,706 --> 01:18:44,471
that something that we didn't

2243
01:18:44,471 --> 01:18:45,239
budget this year?

2244
01:18:45,239 --> 01:18:46,271
>>Linda Senne: correct.

2245
01:18:46,271 --> 01:18:47,972
It was not budgeted.

2246
01:18:47,972 --> 01:18:49,571
We don't generally budget

2247
01:18:49,571 --> 01:18:50,572
because we're not sure if we get

2248
01:18:50,572 --> 01:18:52,572
any money.

2249
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:56,439
We submit projects, and then

2250
01:18:56,506 --> 01:18:57,706
they, like with the ian project,

2251
01:18:57,706 --> 01:18:59,339
three years ago.

2252
01:18:59,339 --> 01:19:00,306
So then they determine whether

2253
01:19:00,306 --> 01:19:02,506
they are going to fund the

2254
01:19:02,506 --> 01:19:04,506
project or not.

2255
01:19:04,573 --> 01:19:05,438
So we don't budget generally for

2256
01:19:05,438 --> 01:19:06,772
that revenue.

2257
01:19:06,772 --> 01:19:08,771
Not sure if we're going to

2258
01:19:08,771 --> 01:19:10,239
actually get reimbursed for it.

2259
01:19:10,239 --> 01:19:12,500
>>Ron Smith: right, the money we

2260
01:19:12,500 --> 01:19:13,539
did just get, it wasn't budgeted

2261
01:19:13,539 --> 01:19:16,105
and it changes how much we need

2262
01:19:16,105 --> 01:19:17,271
to find in the budget to fund

2263
01:19:17,271 --> 01:19:18,373
these changes we wanted to make,

2264
01:19:18,373 --> 01:19:19,404
is that correct?

2265
01:19:19,404 --> 01:19:21,272
>>Linda Senne: well, that

2266
01:19:21,272 --> 01:19:23,171
increases the bottom line when I

2267
01:19:23,171 --> 01:19:25,904
say the estimated dollar amount.

2268
01:19:25,904 --> 01:19:29,306
Because when we did the report

2269
01:19:29,306 --> 01:19:31,772
in MARCH, I estimated that the

2270
01:19:31,772 --> 01:19:32,205
fund balance would be 28.4

2271
01:19:32,205 --> 01:19:34,720
million.

2272
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:35,371
Now I'm estimating it will be 29

2273
01:19:35,371 --> 01:19:36,904
million.

2274
01:19:36,904 --> 01:19:37,538
Because we have the revenue

2275
01:19:37,538 --> 01:19:38,439
increase --

2276
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:40,371
>>Ron Smith: rolling that money

2277
01:19:40,371 --> 01:19:40,905
over into the reserve.

2278
01:19:40,905 --> 01:19:41,905
>>Linda Senne: correct.

2279
01:19:41,905 --> 01:19:42,739
>>Ron Smith: rather than using

2280
01:19:42,739 --> 01:19:44,500
it for.

2281
01:19:44,500 --> 01:19:46,405
>>Linda Senne: correct, correct.

2282
01:19:47,338 --> 01:19:48,439
So it increases your ending

2283
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:50,439
savings reserve amount.

2284
01:19:50,538 --> 01:19:52,605
Because when I did the -- when I

2285
01:19:52,605 --> 01:19:55,839
did this in MARCH, my estimate

2286
01:19:55,839 --> 01:19:58,105
at that time was 28.4 million.

2287
01:19:58,105 --> 01:20:00,371
Now the estimate is going to be

2288
01:20:00,371 --> 01:20:01,872
29.1 million.

2289
01:20:01,872 --> 01:20:03,272
>>Ron Smith: just banking it is

2290
01:20:03,272 --> 01:20:05,239
what you're telling me.

2291
01:20:05,239 --> 01:20:07,238
>>Linda Senne: correct.

2292
01:20:07,238 --> 01:20:08,600
>>Ron Smith: could you tell me

2293
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:10,710
again at this point since that

2294
01:20:10,710 --> 01:20:11,472
now changed, how much money

2295
01:20:11,472 --> 01:20:14,304
we're hoping to get still from

2296
01:20:14,304 --> 01:20:15,305
fema, even though we have no

2297
01:20:15,305 --> 01:20:17,439
guarantees we're in the process

2298
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:17,673
of trying to get repaid for work

2299
01:20:17,673 --> 01:20:19,673
we did.

2300
01:20:19,872 --> 01:20:21,239
>>Linda Senne: we got reimbursed

2301
01:20:21,239 --> 01:20:22,672
for all the -- which went into

2302
01:20:22,672 --> 01:20:23,500
the solid waste fund for the

2303
01:20:23,500 --> 01:20:24,838
debris.

2304
01:20:24,838 --> 01:20:27,838
We got reimbursed for debris.

2305
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:29,971
That's all done for ian and for

2306
01:20:29,971 --> 01:20:31,771
milton and for helene.

2307
01:20:31,771 --> 01:20:32,672
All that money reimbursed.

2308
01:20:32,672 --> 01:20:33,938
But that went into the solid

2309
01:20:33,938 --> 01:20:35,172
waste fund because the expenses

2310
01:20:35,172 --> 01:20:38,772
came out of the solid waste

2311
01:20:38,939 --> 01:20:41,405
fund, picking up the debris.

2312
01:20:41,405 --> 01:20:44,304
Maybe another one to two million

2313
01:20:44,304 --> 01:20:45,105
max, but it doesn't all go in

2314
01:20:45,105 --> 01:20:46,971
the general fund.

2315
01:20:46,971 --> 01:20:49,705
Some of it is utilities fund and

2316
01:20:49,705 --> 01:20:50,804
some could be stormwater fund.

2317
01:20:50,804 --> 01:20:52,305
Probably one to two million,

2318
01:20:52,305 --> 01:20:53,838
maybe, at the high end.

2319
01:20:53,838 --> 01:20:56,238
>>Ron Smith: thank you.

2320
01:20:56,638 --> 01:20:57,738
>>Mayor Pachota: MS. Frank.

2321
01:20:57,738 --> 01:20:59,937
>>Rachel Frank: thank you.

2322
01:20:59,937 --> 01:21:03,537
Could you expound a little bit

2323
01:21:03,837 --> 01:21:06,720
on the stormwater fund 480,

2324
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:07,137
particularly because I believe

2325
01:21:07,137 --> 01:21:09,404
it's healthy reserve, according

2326
01:21:09,404 --> 01:21:12,370
to your memo here, on page 6, it

2327
01:21:12,370 --> 01:21:13,738
talks about the non-earmarked

2328
01:21:13,738 --> 01:21:14,605
working capital balance dropping

2329
01:21:14,605 --> 01:21:16,605
to 5.2 million.

2330
01:21:16,905 --> 01:21:17,672
But you say it's still well

2331
01:21:17,672 --> 01:21:19,672
above target levels.

2332
01:21:19,972 --> 01:21:22,380
Just because I believe it

2333
01:21:22,380 --> 01:21:23,605
potentially could be germane to

2334
01:21:23,605 --> 01:21:25,938
our conversation later about

2335
01:21:25,938 --> 01:21:27,737
curry creek, deer town gully,

2336
01:21:27,737 --> 01:21:30,105
update on all of those efforts.

2337
01:21:30,105 --> 01:21:32,437
I just want to fully understand

2338
01:21:32,437 --> 01:21:35,306
where our stormwater fund is at

2339
01:21:35,306 --> 01:21:38,906
and maybe what you mean about

2340
01:21:39,380 --> 01:21:40,272
well above target levels.

2341
01:21:40,272 --> 01:21:41,472
>>Linda Senne: let me pull that

2342
01:21:41,472 --> 01:21:43,370
fund up.

2343
01:21:43,370 --> 01:21:45,370
Stormwater.

2344
01:21:47,405 --> 01:21:48,872
Stormwater, they have had --

2345
01:21:48,872 --> 01:21:50,238
because they are in the middle

2346
01:21:50,238 --> 01:21:52,500
of some of the projects that

2347
01:21:52,500 --> 01:21:52,872
aren't encumbered yet, but they

2348
01:21:52,872 --> 01:21:56,472
have some projects that they are

2349
01:21:56,972 --> 01:21:58,971
working on, but when you look at

2350
01:21:58,971 --> 01:22:01,138
this part right up here, when

2351
01:22:01,138 --> 01:22:04,338
you see expenses to date for

2352
01:22:04,338 --> 01:22:07,938
some of these projects, there is

2353
01:22:10,700 --> 01:22:11,238
no money yet spent to date for

2354
01:22:11,238 --> 01:22:13,305
some of the stormwater projects.

2355
01:22:13,305 --> 01:22:16,371
So at the end, when you look at

2356
01:22:16,371 --> 01:22:19,305
the overall fund, when we say

2357
01:22:19,305 --> 01:22:20,371
it's above target because we

2358
01:22:20,371 --> 01:22:22,704
estimate -- they are estimating

2359
01:22:22,704 --> 01:22:25,805
at the end of fiscal '26 what

2360
01:22:25,805 --> 01:22:27,639
we're expecting, that the

2361
01:22:27,639 --> 01:22:29,705
working capital would be we have

2362
01:22:29,705 --> 01:22:32,504
5.2 total expenses and then with

2363
01:22:32,504 --> 01:22:35,271
an estimate of 2.9 million that

2364
01:22:35,271 --> 01:22:37,438
would be basically in reserves

2365
01:22:37,438 --> 01:22:37,804
that they could use for other

2366
01:22:37,804 --> 01:22:39,804
projects.

2367
01:22:40,700 --> 01:22:42,380
That's what we're expecting at

2368
01:22:42,380 --> 01:22:42,538
the end of SEPTEMBER.

2369
01:22:42,538 --> 01:22:44,538
>>Rachel Frank: okay.

2370
01:22:45,500 --> 01:22:47,170
In the memo it says 2.9 million

2371
01:22:47,170 --> 01:22:47,870
is earmarked for water quality

2372
01:22:47,870 --> 01:22:49,471
projects.

2373
01:22:49,471 --> 01:22:51,204
You're saying separate than that

2374
01:22:51,204 --> 01:22:52,537
earmark you believe --

2375
01:22:52,537 --> 01:22:53,804
>>Linda Senne: I say earmarked

2376
01:22:53,804 --> 01:22:54,904
for water quality because

2377
01:22:54,904 --> 01:22:56,770
everything in the stormwater has

2378
01:22:56,770 --> 01:22:58,971
to go to stormwater projects.

2379
01:22:58,971 --> 01:22:59,237
It can't be spent on some other

2380
01:22:59,237 --> 01:23:01,237
projects.

2381
01:23:01,538 --> 01:23:03,104
We say the dollar amount, 2.9

2382
01:23:03,104 --> 01:23:04,838
million, that's above our

2383
01:23:04,838 --> 01:23:06,138
required reserve is available

2384
01:23:06,138 --> 01:23:08,138
for water projects.

2385
01:23:08,204 --> 01:23:09,339
Any stormwater-type project.

2386
01:23:09,339 --> 01:23:11,739
>>Rachel Frank: very helpful.

2387
01:23:14,871 --> 01:23:16,504
Thank you, linda.

2388
01:23:16,504 --> 01:23:18,710
>>Mayor Pachota: MR. Engelke,

2389
01:23:18,710 --> 01:23:19,405
did you have your hand up?

2390
01:23:19,405 --> 01:23:21,405
Looks like it.

2391
01:23:22,304 --> 01:23:23,837
Thank you so much.

2392
01:23:23,837 --> 01:23:25,571
MADAM Clerk, do you have anybody

2393
01:23:25,571 --> 01:23:26,338
signed up to speak on this?

2394
01:23:26,338 --> 01:23:27,738
>>Kelly Michaels: no.

2395
01:23:27,738 --> 01:23:29,605
>>Mayor Pachota: okay.

2396
01:23:29,605 --> 01:23:33,805
Then we will move on to council

2397
01:23:35,105 --> 01:23:36,670
action and discussion, 26-0703.

2398
01:23:36,670 --> 01:23:37,937
This is to appoint a member to

2399
01:23:37,937 --> 01:23:39,538
the citizens tax oversight

2400
01:23:39,538 --> 01:23:43,138
committee to serve a term from

2401
01:23:43,671 --> 01:23:45,671
SEPTEMBER 1, 2026, to AUGUST

2402
01:23:47,771 --> 01:23:49,938
31 -- do you have any more

2403
01:23:49,938 --> 01:23:51,938
introduction than that?

2404
01:23:52,238 --> 01:23:53,571
Anybody signed up to speak?

2405
01:23:53,571 --> 01:23:54,204
>>Kelly Michaels: no.

2406
01:23:54,204 --> 01:23:54,838
>>Mayor Pachota: do I have a

2407
01:23:54,838 --> 01:23:57,505
council member that would like

2408
01:23:57,505 --> 01:23:58,937
to make a motion?

2409
01:23:58,937 --> 01:24:02,304
>>Vice Mayor Boldt: MR. Mayor, I

2410
01:24:02,304 --> 01:24:03,504
move to appoint peyton dewitt to

2411
01:24:03,504 --> 01:24:05,380
the citizens tax oversight

2412
01:24:05,380 --> 01:24:08,271
committee to serve a term from

2413
01:24:08,271 --> 01:24:09,771
SEPTEMBER 1, 2026 to AUGUST 31,

2414
01:24:09,771 --> 01:24:10,404
2030.

2415
01:24:10,404 --> 01:24:11,805
>>Mayor Pachota: I'll second

2416
01:24:11,805 --> 01:24:12,937
that.

2417
01:24:12,937 --> 01:24:15,337
With that, any council

2418
01:24:16,104 --> 01:24:18,104
discussion?

2419
01:24:18,871 --> 01:24:19,903
Seeing none, MADAM Clerk, if

2420
01:24:19,903 --> 01:24:20,271
you'll make us ready for an

2421
01:24:20,271 --> 01:24:21,237
electronic vote.

2422
01:24:21,237 --> 01:24:23,104
Council members, when your

2423
01:24:23,104 --> 01:24:25,837
lights are flashing, you can

2424
01:24:25,837 --> 01:24:27,571
indicate your vote.

2425
01:24:27,571 --> 01:24:28,104
MADAM Clerk, you can tally and

2426
01:24:28,104 --> 01:24:29,400
display.

2427
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:30,638
Passes unanimously.

2428
01:24:30,638 --> 01:24:32,638
[Sounding gavel]

2429
01:24:33,271 --> 01:24:34,137
Thank you to peyton dewitt for

2430
01:24:34,137 --> 01:24:36,137
volunteering for that.

2431
01:24:38,204 --> 01:24:41,305
We will move on to 26-0704.

2432
01:24:41,305 --> 01:24:42,471
And this is appoint two members

2433
01:24:42,471 --> 01:24:43,371
to the historic and

2434
01:24:43,371 --> 01:24:45,371
architectural preservation board

2435
01:24:45,438 --> 01:24:47,937
to serve a term from SEPTEMBER

2436
01:24:47,937 --> 01:24:49,371
1, 2026, to AUGUST 31, 2029.

2437
01:24:49,371 --> 01:24:51,538
MADAM Clerk, did you have

2438
01:24:51,538 --> 01:24:51,871
anything in addition to add to

2439
01:24:51,871 --> 01:24:52,470
that.

2440
01:24:52,470 --> 01:24:53,571
>>Kelly Michaels: I don't.

2441
01:24:53,571 --> 01:24:55,370
>>Mayor Pachota: okay.

2442
01:24:55,370 --> 01:24:55,336
Do we have anybody signed up to

2443
01:24:55,336 --> 01:24:55,937
speak?

2444
01:24:55,937 --> 01:24:56,470
>>Kelly Michaels: no.

2445
01:24:56,470 --> 01:24:57,437
>>Mayor Pachota: I will

2446
01:24:57,437 --> 01:24:59,700
entertain a motion from a

2447
01:24:59,700 --> 01:25:00,804
council member.

2448
01:25:00,804 --> 01:25:03,804
>>Rick Howard: move to appoint

2449
01:25:03,971 --> 01:25:04,770
jean trammell to the historic

2450
01:25:04,770 --> 01:25:06,770
and architectural preservation

2451
01:25:07,337 --> 01:25:09,710
board to serve a term from

2452
01:25:09,710 --> 01:25:12,710
SEPTEMBER 1 of '26 to AUGUST 31

2453
01:25:16,537 --> 01:25:18,537
of '29.

2454
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:19,704
Give me a minute.

2455
01:25:19,704 --> 01:25:22,104
>>Mayor Pachota: how many

2456
01:25:22,537 --> 01:25:24,937
minutes do you need?

2457
01:25:28,470 --> 01:25:29,237
>> move to appoint john steckty

2458
01:25:29,237 --> 01:25:30,710
to the historic and

2459
01:25:30,710 --> 01:25:31,470
architectural preservation board

2460
01:25:31,470 --> 01:25:34,570
to serve a term from SEPTEMBER

2461
01:25:34,570 --> 01:25:36,400
1, '26 to AUGUST 31 of 2029.

2462
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:37,371
>>Mayor Pachota: I'll second it.

2463
01:25:37,371 --> 01:25:39,771
With that, any council

2464
01:25:40,870 --> 01:25:42,404
discussion?

2465
01:25:42,404 --> 01:25:44,270
MADAM Clerk, we have a proper

2466
01:25:44,270 --> 01:25:45,136
motion of both names and a

2467
01:25:45,136 --> 01:25:47,300
proper second.

2468
01:25:47,300 --> 01:25:47,704
We can go ahead and take an

2469
01:25:47,704 --> 01:25:48,537
electronic vote.

2470
01:25:48,537 --> 01:25:50,604
Council members, when your

2471
01:25:50,604 --> 01:25:52,504
lights are flashing, you can

2472
01:25:52,504 --> 01:25:54,471
indicate your vote.

2473
01:25:54,471 --> 01:25:55,710
You can tally and display the

2474
01:25:55,710 --> 01:25:55,970
vote.

2475
01:25:55,970 --> 01:25:57,970
Passes unanimously.

2476
01:25:58,504 --> 01:26:00,504
[Sounding gavel]

2477
01:26:00,703 --> 01:26:04,303
We'll go ahead and take a

2478
01:26:06,437 --> 01:26:07,971
seven-minute break and return --

2479
01:26:07,971 --> 01:26:09,971
[Inaudible]

2480
01:26:18,935 --> 01:26:19,335
.

2481
01:26:19,335 --> 01:26:19,835
[Sounding gavel]

2482
01:26:19,835 --> 01:26:21,702
>>Mayor Pachota: okay.

2483
01:26:21,702 --> 01:26:23,702
We are back.

2484
01:26:24,902 --> 01:26:29,102
If I can get everyone to quiet

2485
01:26:31,370 --> 01:26:32,935
down for me, we are at 26-0705,

2486
01:26:32,935 --> 01:26:33,402
which is airport workshop

2487
01:26:33,402 --> 01:26:35,402
scheduling.

2488
01:26:35,436 --> 01:26:35,702
That is the next item on the

2489
01:26:35,702 --> 01:26:36,835
agenda.

2490
01:26:36,835 --> 01:26:38,569
MR. City manager, if you would

2491
01:26:38,569 --> 01:26:39,100
like to introduce the topic,

2492
01:26:39,100 --> 01:26:40,100
please.

2493
01:26:40,100 --> 01:26:40,202
>>James Clinch: thank you,

2494
01:26:40,202 --> 01:26:41,835
mayor.

2495
01:26:41,835 --> 01:26:45,370
As you know, we have a couple of

2496
01:26:45,370 --> 01:26:45,634
things happening at the airport

2497
01:26:45,634 --> 01:26:47,634
this fall.

2498
01:26:48,502 --> 01:26:50,701
We are actively working towards

2499
01:26:50,701 --> 01:26:50,902
the finalization of our master

2500
01:26:50,902 --> 01:26:52,302
plan.

2501
01:26:52,302 --> 01:26:54,370
It is almost done.

2502
01:26:54,370 --> 01:26:57,201
It will end up being about three

2503
01:26:57,201 --> 01:26:58,435
years in the making.

2504
01:26:58,435 --> 01:26:59,736
We've gone above and beyond the

2505
01:26:59,736 --> 01:27:01,690
number of public meetings

2506
01:27:01,690 --> 01:27:03,236
required and we'll be picking

2507
01:27:03,236 --> 01:27:03,469
the public meetings back up in

2508
01:27:03,469 --> 01:27:05,469
OCTOBER.

2509
01:27:05,935 --> 01:27:07,167
I think it's very important,

2510
01:27:07,167 --> 01:27:09,301
today is a great demonstration

2511
01:27:09,301 --> 01:27:11,868
of that, that we do everything

2512
01:27:11,868 --> 01:27:13,536
we can to get the real story out

2513
01:27:13,536 --> 01:27:15,934
there, make sure everyone feels

2514
01:27:15,934 --> 01:27:16,934
informed and clear up any

2515
01:27:16,934 --> 01:27:18,100
questions that there are related

2516
01:27:18,100 --> 01:27:19,468
to the airport.

2517
01:27:19,468 --> 01:27:21,868
And there's just, unfortunately,

2518
01:27:22,267 --> 01:27:22,734
a lot of things happening at the

2519
01:27:22,734 --> 01:27:24,234
same time.

2520
01:27:24,234 --> 01:27:25,835
I appreciate that.

2521
01:27:25,835 --> 01:27:27,201
And I recognize the concerns

2522
01:27:27,201 --> 01:27:29,701
that come along with that.

2523
01:27:29,701 --> 01:27:32,368
The flip side is, we, as you all

2524
01:27:32,368 --> 01:27:34,502
know, are stewards of the

2525
01:27:34,502 --> 01:27:35,367
airport and subject to the faa

2526
01:27:35,367 --> 01:27:37,367
federal regulations.

2527
01:27:38,468 --> 01:27:39,767
So with that, comes a lot of

2528
01:27:39,767 --> 01:27:42,167
restrictions to our authority.

2529
01:27:42,369 --> 01:27:44,468
So the purpose of this workshop

2530
01:27:44,468 --> 01:27:46,101
would be before we kick off the

2531
01:27:46,101 --> 01:27:47,902
public meetings to finish the

2532
01:27:47,902 --> 01:27:51,235
master plan, I'd like to bring

2533
01:27:51,235 --> 01:27:51,467
in our aviation attorney, chris

2534
01:27:51,467 --> 01:27:53,401
wilson.

2535
01:27:53,401 --> 01:27:56,268
He is an expert on aviation law.

2536
01:27:56,268 --> 01:27:58,935
He is a teacher at embry-riddle

2537
01:27:58,935 --> 01:28:02,680
university, and he can speak to

2538
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:02,335
the faa rules and regulations

2539
01:28:02,335 --> 01:28:03,501
firsthand.

2540
01:28:03,501 --> 01:28:05,435
I had the privilege of meeting

2541
01:28:05,435 --> 01:28:06,101
with the faa in person about a

2542
01:28:06,101 --> 01:28:07,301
month ago.

2543
01:28:07,301 --> 01:28:09,368
The first time I had that

2544
01:28:09,368 --> 01:28:10,667
privilege and hearing from them

2545
01:28:10,667 --> 01:28:12,767
firsthand what we can do and

2546
01:28:12,767 --> 01:28:13,868
what we can't do was very

2547
01:28:13,868 --> 01:28:15,868
eye-opening.

2548
01:28:16,340 --> 01:28:18,101
So I believe bringing MR. Wilson

2549
01:28:18,101 --> 01:28:20,360
here to speak to those

2550
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:22,267
regulations will give you all a

2551
01:28:22,267 --> 01:28:23,801
much better idea of what our

2552
01:28:23,801 --> 01:28:25,801
authorities are, our

2553
01:28:26,468 --> 01:28:27,767
capabilities are as we move

2554
01:28:27,767 --> 01:28:28,135
towards closing out this master

2555
01:28:28,135 --> 01:28:28,834
plan.

2556
01:28:28,834 --> 01:28:30,680
It's going to be a very

2557
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:30,701
difficult process to bring this

2558
01:28:30,701 --> 01:28:32,701
to a close.

2559
01:28:34,767 --> 01:28:37,134
I think we all recognize that.

2560
01:28:37,134 --> 01:28:38,101
Just because there are these faa

2561
01:28:38,101 --> 01:28:40,670
regulations, doesn't mean we

2562
01:28:40,670 --> 01:28:42,467
don't have any power.

2563
01:28:42,601 --> 01:28:44,801
Chris can help us to navigate

2564
01:28:44,801 --> 01:28:46,601
where our areas we can advocate

2565
01:28:46,601 --> 01:28:47,734
and we can make, leave our

2566
01:28:47,734 --> 01:28:50,168
fingerprints on this master plan

2567
01:28:50,168 --> 01:28:51,468
and do things for the community

2568
01:28:51,468 --> 01:28:52,868
like we've committed to and

2569
01:28:52,868 --> 01:28:54,501
where are things we cannot,

2570
01:28:54,501 --> 01:28:56,267
frankly, because of federal law.

2571
01:28:56,267 --> 01:28:56,967
He'll help us navigate that,

2572
01:28:56,967 --> 01:28:58,235
take questions.

2573
01:28:58,235 --> 01:28:59,501
Ask him the hard questions.

2574
01:28:59,501 --> 01:28:59,735
Ask him about the festival

2575
01:28:59,735 --> 01:29:01,468
grounds.

2576
01:29:01,468 --> 01:29:03,400
We can talk about the golf

2577
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:04,680
course, talk about noise,

2578
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:05,467
environment, whatever we want to

2579
01:29:05,467 --> 01:29:07,201
talk about, I think it would be

2580
01:29:07,201 --> 01:29:08,735
a very healthy exercise.

2581
01:29:08,735 --> 01:29:11,350
My request to you today is,

2582
01:29:11,350 --> 01:29:11,968
number one, do you want to hold

2583
01:29:11,968 --> 01:29:13,968
this council workshop?

2584
01:29:14,834 --> 01:29:17,350
Number two, what would be a good

2585
01:29:17,350 --> 01:29:17,801
date to get that scheduled?

2586
01:29:17,801 --> 01:29:19,235
>>Mayor Pachota: is there more

2587
01:29:19,235 --> 01:29:20,135
of a presentation or does that

2588
01:29:20,135 --> 01:29:21,201
sum everything up?

2589
01:29:21,201 --> 01:29:21,735
>>James Clinch: that sums

2590
01:29:21,735 --> 01:29:23,735
everything up.

2591
01:29:23,967 --> 01:29:24,801
I'm happy to dive into question

2592
01:29:24,801 --> 01:29:26,801
necessary you have.

2593
01:29:27,101 --> 01:29:28,467
I'd love to talk, if there's

2594
01:29:28,467 --> 01:29:29,434
time, about the

2595
01:29:29,434 --> 01:29:31,567
misinterpretation of the tower

2596
01:29:31,567 --> 01:29:34,201
that we've heard from today, but

2597
01:29:34,201 --> 01:29:35,268
I'll leave that for your

2598
01:29:35,268 --> 01:29:35,767
discussion, mayor.

2599
01:29:35,767 --> 01:29:37,767
>>Mayor Pachota: okay.

2600
01:29:40,100 --> 01:29:41,868
any questions of MR. Clinch?

2601
01:29:41,868 --> 01:29:43,350
MR. Engelke.

2602
01:29:43,350 --> 01:29:45,567
>>Kevin Engelke: I love the idea

2603
01:29:45,567 --> 01:29:46,435
of scheduling a workshop to hear

2604
01:29:46,435 --> 01:29:48,101
from the attorney.

2605
01:29:48,101 --> 01:29:51,167
I think it's going to clear up a

2606
01:29:51,167 --> 01:29:52,267
lot of concerns, a lot of

2607
01:29:52,267 --> 01:29:54,100
misconceptions, and kind of

2608
01:29:54,100 --> 01:29:54,600
outline what we can and cannot

2609
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:56,334
do.

2610
01:29:56,334 --> 01:29:59,334
I'm highly encouraged that we

2611
01:29:59,601 --> 01:30:01,467
have that opportunity.

2612
01:30:01,467 --> 01:30:02,368
>>Mayor Pachota: MS. Frank.

2613
01:30:02,368 --> 01:30:03,934
>>Rachel Frank: thank you.

2614
01:30:03,934 --> 01:30:05,367
Again, in favor of scheduling

2615
01:30:05,367 --> 01:30:07,601
this workshop, I believe the

2616
01:30:07,601 --> 01:30:08,667
dates floated were in OCTOBER.

2617
01:30:08,667 --> 01:30:11,667
Is there anything you can

2618
01:30:12,501 --> 01:30:13,401
educate us on relating to the

2619
01:30:13,401 --> 01:30:14,668
special events and the festival

2620
01:30:14,668 --> 01:30:16,301
grounds from the public comment

2621
01:30:16,301 --> 01:30:17,668
concerns we heard today?

2622
01:30:17,668 --> 01:30:20,434
Because I feel like OCTOBER is a

2623
01:30:20,434 --> 01:30:21,734
long way to wait for clarity on

2624
01:30:21,734 --> 01:30:22,501
that particular issue.

2625
01:30:22,501 --> 01:30:23,268
>>James Clinch: sure.

2626
01:30:23,268 --> 01:30:25,134
We can address that right now.

2627
01:30:25,134 --> 01:30:25,768
I met with the faa directly a

2628
01:30:25,768 --> 01:30:27,534
month ago.

2629
01:30:27,534 --> 01:30:28,868
We asked them point-blank about

2630
01:30:28,868 --> 01:30:30,340
the festival grounds.

2631
01:30:30,340 --> 01:30:32,567
The festival grounds has always

2632
01:30:32,567 --> 01:30:33,634
been part of the airport and has

2633
01:30:33,634 --> 01:30:35,634
faa oversight.

2634
01:30:36,268 --> 01:30:38,350
It is intended for aeronautical

2635
01:30:38,350 --> 01:30:39,600
use at some point in the future.

2636
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:41,967
The faa made that very clear.

2637
01:30:41,967 --> 01:30:44,700
At some point in the future,

2638
01:30:44,700 --> 01:30:45,867
that area will be used for

2639
01:30:45,867 --> 01:30:47,434
aeronautical activities, which

2640
01:30:47,434 --> 01:30:49,402
will be -- is and will be

2641
01:30:49,402 --> 01:30:51,801
reflected in our master plan.

2642
01:30:51,801 --> 01:30:52,900
The faa understood, because I

2643
01:30:52,900 --> 01:30:55,834
expressed the importance of this

2644
01:30:55,834 --> 01:30:56,934
location to our community, we

2645
01:30:56,934 --> 01:30:58,701
actually generate revenue by

2646
01:30:58,701 --> 01:30:59,434
having events there, and there's

2647
01:30:59,434 --> 01:31:00,501
nothing happening out there

2648
01:31:00,501 --> 01:31:02,401
right now, right?

2649
01:31:02,401 --> 01:31:04,367
There's nothing on the books.

2650
01:31:04,367 --> 01:31:06,101
there's no leases coming your

2651
01:31:06,101 --> 01:31:08,267
way any time soon.

2652
01:31:08,267 --> 01:31:09,501
So there's really no reason to

2653
01:31:09,501 --> 01:31:10,340
preclude events from happening

2654
01:31:10,340 --> 01:31:11,766
there.

2655
01:31:11,766 --> 01:31:13,434
And they were very open to that.

2656
01:31:13,434 --> 01:31:15,400
The concern, and the reason why

2657
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:17,134
our department reached out

2658
01:31:17,134 --> 01:31:18,867
earlier this year is we had

2659
01:31:18,867 --> 01:31:20,302
received some correspondence

2660
01:31:20,302 --> 01:31:21,567
from faa with concerns about the

2661
01:31:21,567 --> 01:31:22,934
festival grounds.

2662
01:31:22,934 --> 01:31:24,301
They don't want to see any more

2663
01:31:24,301 --> 01:31:26,301
improvements there.

2664
01:31:26,834 --> 01:31:27,934
They don't want to see any more

2665
01:31:27,934 --> 01:31:28,367
non-aeronautical investments in

2666
01:31:28,367 --> 01:31:30,235
that area.

2667
01:31:30,235 --> 01:31:31,834
They know at some point in time,

2668
01:31:31,834 --> 01:31:32,233
that will be aeronautical

2669
01:31:32,233 --> 01:31:34,233
expansion.

2670
01:31:34,467 --> 01:31:36,100
And they made that very clear.

2671
01:31:36,100 --> 01:31:38,600
So I think we've put to rest

2672
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:39,701
with them that in the meantime,

2673
01:31:39,701 --> 01:31:40,933
these festivals are a very

2674
01:31:40,933 --> 01:31:43,966
positive thing, but we wanted to

2675
01:31:43,966 --> 01:31:45,466
be transparent with our event

2676
01:31:45,466 --> 01:31:46,467
holders because, and we've

2677
01:31:46,467 --> 01:31:48,300
learned this in the past with

2678
01:31:48,300 --> 01:31:50,967
the faa, they could send a

2679
01:31:50,967 --> 01:31:52,933
letter at any point in time that

2680
01:31:52,933 --> 01:31:53,666
says you have 90 days to vacate

2681
01:31:53,666 --> 01:31:55,666
the festival grounds.

2682
01:31:56,435 --> 01:31:56,701
This is a non-aeronautical

2683
01:31:56,701 --> 01:31:57,933
activity.

2684
01:31:57,933 --> 01:31:59,801
I don't anticipate that's going

2685
01:31:59,801 --> 01:32:01,866
to happen, but it's important

2686
01:32:01,866 --> 01:32:03,434
that our event holders know that

2687
01:32:03,434 --> 01:32:04,660
is always a possibility that's

2688
01:32:04,660 --> 01:32:05,633
on the table.

2689
01:32:05,633 --> 01:32:06,167
That's what we communicated to

2690
01:32:06,167 --> 01:32:07,467
them.

2691
01:32:07,467 --> 01:32:09,667
But I hope after our meetings

2692
01:32:09,667 --> 01:32:11,633
with the faa recently, we can

2693
01:32:11,633 --> 01:32:13,167
give them a little more

2694
01:32:13,167 --> 01:32:14,501
confidence that we will give you

2695
01:32:14,501 --> 01:32:16,166
every authority we have to

2696
01:32:16,166 --> 01:32:18,367
schedule and hold your event.

2697
01:32:18,367 --> 01:32:20,350
If a federal authority above us

2698
01:32:20,350 --> 01:32:21,134
says we can't, that's out of all

2699
01:32:21,134 --> 01:32:23,134
of our hands.

2700
01:32:25,835 --> 01:32:28,466
so just be aware of that.

2701
01:32:28,466 --> 01:32:30,401
>>Mayor Pachota: MR. Howard.

2702
01:32:30,401 --> 01:32:30,700
>>Rick Howard: just echoing my

2703
01:32:30,700 --> 01:32:32,700
colleagues.

2704
01:32:32,768 --> 01:32:33,833
Total support, james, of having

2705
01:32:33,833 --> 01:32:35,833
this workshop.

2706
01:32:35,934 --> 01:32:38,267
I think it's a great idea to

2707
01:32:38,267 --> 01:32:41,799
make sure we're as educated as

2708
01:32:41,799 --> 01:32:44,300
possible with what the faa does

2709
01:32:44,300 --> 01:32:46,167
and their authority, our

2710
01:32:46,167 --> 01:32:48,167
authority or not.

2711
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:50,101
And thank you, rachel, for

2712
01:32:50,101 --> 01:32:51,167
clarifying the fairgrounds

2713
01:32:51,167 --> 01:32:53,734
because I know that is special

2714
01:32:53,734 --> 01:32:54,670
to a lot of residents and event

2715
01:32:54,670 --> 01:32:56,670
holders.

2716
01:32:56,701 --> 01:32:58,701
That's it, mayor.

2717
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:03,667
>>Mayor Pachota: MR. Smith.

2718
01:33:03,667 --> 01:33:05,734
>>Ron Smith: thank you, mayor.

2719
01:33:05,734 --> 01:33:08,700
I'm very happy we're going to

2720
01:33:08,700 --> 01:33:11,434
set, seems like everybody is in

2721
01:33:11,434 --> 01:33:12,634
favor, of a workshop.

2722
01:33:12,634 --> 01:33:15,634
Originally, MR. City manager, I

2723
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:19,335
had asked if we could have the

2724
01:33:19,335 --> 01:33:21,735
faa actually some representative

2725
01:33:21,934 --> 01:33:22,200
be here so we could ask

2726
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:24,200
questions.

2727
01:33:24,368 --> 01:33:26,670
I wanted to do that because so

2728
01:33:26,670 --> 01:33:27,601
often our answer is, well, the

2729
01:33:27,601 --> 01:33:30,901
faa won't let us do that.

2730
01:33:30,901 --> 01:33:31,868
I just want to ask, can we do

2731
01:33:31,868 --> 01:33:32,800
this?

2732
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:34,670
Interesting, earlier today, one

2733
01:33:34,670 --> 01:33:35,900
of the speakers said there is a

2734
01:33:35,900 --> 01:33:37,900
new statement by the faa that

2735
01:33:37,900 --> 01:33:38,301
they can approve non-aviation

2736
01:33:38,301 --> 01:33:39,834
uses.

2737
01:33:39,834 --> 01:33:41,168
That fascinates me.

2738
01:33:41,168 --> 01:33:42,734
I know nothing about it except

2739
01:33:42,734 --> 01:33:43,367
what I just heard and everybody

2740
01:33:43,367 --> 01:33:45,168
else here heard.

2741
01:33:45,168 --> 01:33:47,667
I would like to know if that is

2742
01:33:47,667 --> 01:33:49,867
the case and if we can formally

2743
01:33:49,867 --> 01:33:51,401
designate some areas with their

2744
01:33:51,401 --> 01:33:52,934
approval for non-aviation uses

2745
01:33:52,934 --> 01:33:56,334
because we have some that we'd

2746
01:33:56,334 --> 01:33:59,300
like to have for sure.

2747
01:33:59,300 --> 01:34:01,670
But I believe you told me they

2748
01:34:01,670 --> 01:34:04,100
declined our invitation to be a

2749
01:34:04,100 --> 01:34:04,767
part of this, is that right?

2750
01:34:04,767 --> 01:34:06,600
>>James Clinch: that is correct.

2751
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:08,433
It was not personal to venice.

2752
01:34:08,433 --> 01:34:10,601
I asked them point-blank if they

2753
01:34:10,601 --> 01:34:12,367
would be interested and willing

2754
01:34:12,367 --> 01:34:13,434
to come speak to our council.

2755
01:34:13,434 --> 01:34:14,733
They said they have a policy

2756
01:34:14,733 --> 01:34:16,268
they don't do that.

2757
01:34:16,268 --> 01:34:17,767
That's all they would end up

2758
01:34:17,767 --> 01:34:18,933
doing all day, every day and

2759
01:34:18,933 --> 01:34:20,933
have another job to do.

2760
01:34:20,933 --> 01:34:22,167
They were, however, very

2761
01:34:22,167 --> 01:34:23,670
supportive and actually

2762
01:34:23,670 --> 01:34:25,100
referenced MR. Wilson directly

2763
01:34:25,100 --> 01:34:26,401
and said, you know what, we work

2764
01:34:26,401 --> 01:34:28,199
with him regularly.

2765
01:34:28,199 --> 01:34:29,933
He knows our rules.

2766
01:34:29,933 --> 01:34:31,533
He will speak to your questions

2767
01:34:31,533 --> 01:34:33,367
just the same as if we were.

2768
01:34:33,367 --> 01:34:34,168
That was their recommendation.

2769
01:34:34,168 --> 01:34:36,200
>>Ron Smith: I thank you.

2770
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:37,700
I thank you for your suggestion

2771
01:34:37,700 --> 01:34:39,600
that we have our attorney, who

2772
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:41,367
you said graduated from

2773
01:34:41,367 --> 01:34:43,568
aeronautical school himself and

2774
01:34:43,568 --> 01:34:46,200
new the fa ark rules better than

2775
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:47,766
anybody, to be at our workshop.

2776
01:34:47,766 --> 01:34:49,500
So I thank you for that.

2777
01:34:49,500 --> 01:34:50,800
Maybe he can answer some of the

2778
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:53,800
very questions I would have

2779
01:34:54,633 --> 01:34:57,134
liked to ask the faa.

2780
01:34:57,134 --> 01:35:00,734
I think the workshop has taken

2781
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:04,132
on a whole different light in

2782
01:35:04,132 --> 01:35:05,766
response to presentations made

2783
01:35:05,766 --> 01:35:07,367
today, the mayor-elect.

2784
01:35:07,367 --> 01:35:08,699
I'm not going to call you vice

2785
01:35:08,699 --> 01:35:10,699
mayor anymore.

2786
01:35:11,467 --> 01:35:13,433
Mayor-elect pointed out all the

2787
01:35:13,433 --> 01:35:14,700
e-mails he's gotten on the

2788
01:35:14,700 --> 01:35:18,300
concerns over what seems to be

2789
01:35:19,566 --> 01:35:22,399
an evolving idea of what was

2790
01:35:22,399 --> 01:35:24,330
once a pole and cameras to be

2791
01:35:24,330 --> 01:35:27,330
coming -- to becoming something

2792
01:35:29,199 --> 01:35:31,399
that would be a locally based

2793
01:35:31,399 --> 01:35:33,466
flight control operation, and

2794
01:35:33,466 --> 01:35:35,533
now even possibly a separate

2795
01:35:35,533 --> 01:35:37,933
additional building to the

2796
01:35:38,660 --> 01:35:40,665
terminal building to house up to

2797
01:35:40,665 --> 01:35:42,665
five city employees.

2798
01:35:43,650 --> 01:35:45,733
So the dismay we've heard from

2799
01:35:45,733 --> 01:35:49,333
the public and from even members

2800
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:56,200
of the citizens advisory council

2801
01:35:57,990 --> 01:35:58,299
for the master plan has me very

2802
01:35:58,299 --> 01:35:59,433
concerned that we need to have a

2803
01:35:59,433 --> 01:36:02,433
discussion about all of that.

2804
01:36:02,833 --> 01:36:04,650
And is the right place for that

2805
01:36:04,650 --> 01:36:05,199
discussion at this workshop?

2806
01:36:05,199 --> 01:36:05,866
Will there be opportunity to

2807
01:36:05,866 --> 01:36:07,766
have conversation at the

2808
01:36:07,766 --> 01:36:08,266
workshop is what I want to ask

2809
01:36:08,266 --> 01:36:08,733
you?

2810
01:36:08,733 --> 01:36:10,733
>>James Clinch: yes.

2811
01:36:10,899 --> 01:36:12,765
I think that workshop, you know,

2812
01:36:12,765 --> 01:36:14,300
my original intent is to bring

2813
01:36:14,300 --> 01:36:15,600
in MR. Wilson so we can get a

2814
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:15,866
presentation and ask him

2815
01:36:15,866 --> 01:36:17,866
questions.

2816
01:36:19,650 --> 01:36:20,599
I think the remote tower, which

2817
01:36:20,599 --> 01:36:24,300
I need to speak to you here in a

2818
01:36:24,300 --> 01:36:25,666
moment, but if the grant is

2819
01:36:25,666 --> 01:36:28,633
successful on the remote tower,

2820
01:36:28,633 --> 01:36:29,901
I think at that point we'll be

2821
01:36:29,901 --> 01:36:31,133
able to have a meaningful

2822
01:36:31,133 --> 01:36:32,465
discussion on what the remote

2823
01:36:32,465 --> 01:36:35,433
tower is going to look like.

2824
01:36:35,433 --> 01:36:36,866
That would be the perfect time.

2825
01:36:36,866 --> 01:36:37,165
Our airport director is in the

2826
01:36:37,165 --> 01:36:38,266
back.

2827
01:36:38,266 --> 01:36:39,600
I'm sure he would be more than

2828
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:40,933
happy to put together a

2829
01:36:40,933 --> 01:36:42,367
presentation on the remote

2830
01:36:42,367 --> 01:36:44,133
tower, of which we'll have a lot

2831
01:36:44,133 --> 01:36:45,865
more answers at that point.

2832
01:36:45,865 --> 01:36:47,599
I'd love to speak a little more

2833
01:36:47,599 --> 01:36:48,330
on that topic when it's

2834
01:36:48,330 --> 01:36:50,330
appropriate.

2835
01:36:52,965 --> 01:36:55,467
>>Ron Smith: if I can just ask

2836
01:36:55,467 --> 01:36:56,665
this, I feel like we couldn't

2837
01:36:56,665 --> 01:36:59,665
really have a citizen panel

2838
01:36:59,733 --> 01:37:01,166
working with us on adopting a

2839
01:37:01,166 --> 01:37:02,933
ten-year master plan without

2840
01:37:02,933 --> 01:37:05,933
them knowing that this existed

2841
01:37:07,990 --> 01:37:08,566
or that we were pursuing this,

2842
01:37:08,566 --> 01:37:09,366
which is they didn't have any

2843
01:37:09,366 --> 01:37:11,366
knowledge of it.

2844
01:37:11,933 --> 01:37:12,980
I didn't have any knowledge of

2845
01:37:12,980 --> 01:37:14,980
it.

2846
01:37:14,533 --> 01:37:16,533
And it's very different than --

2847
01:37:16,533 --> 01:37:18,698
we saw that little video where

2848
01:37:18,698 --> 01:37:21,265
we're saying it's just a pole.

2849
01:37:21,265 --> 01:37:21,999
Reminds me of the old thing in

2850
01:37:21,999 --> 01:37:23,933
grammar school.

2851
01:37:23,933 --> 01:37:25,832
Just a bill, just a bill.

2852
01:37:25,832 --> 01:37:26,799
It's not anything until it gets

2853
01:37:26,799 --> 01:37:30,399
signed by the mayor or the

2854
01:37:31,933 --> 01:37:33,933
PRESIDENT.

2855
01:37:36,133 --> 01:37:37,533
The group we recruited as a

2856
01:37:37,533 --> 01:37:38,866
citizens advisory board to the

2857
01:37:38,866 --> 01:37:40,399
master plan conversation, I

2858
01:37:40,399 --> 01:37:41,498
think every single person on

2859
01:37:41,498 --> 01:37:43,898
this council attended the

2860
01:37:44,633 --> 01:37:47,265
meeting at the community center

2861
01:37:47,265 --> 01:37:48,266
with 250 people, and it was

2862
01:37:48,266 --> 01:37:49,233
never mentioned that this was

2863
01:37:49,233 --> 01:37:49,799
the direction we were going to

2864
01:37:49,799 --> 01:37:51,799
take.

2865
01:37:54,533 --> 01:37:55,534
So that's my big concern is the

2866
01:37:55,534 --> 01:37:57,980
transparency and leaving people

2867
01:37:57,980 --> 01:37:58,133
who are on an advisory board

2868
01:37:58,133 --> 01:37:59,566
feeling like they were not

2869
01:37:59,566 --> 01:38:01,200
informed or misled.

2870
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:03,398
And then to a certain extent

2871
01:38:03,398 --> 01:38:05,465
that I was misled because

2872
01:38:05,465 --> 01:38:06,999
somebody accused me of being to

2873
01:38:06,999 --> 01:38:09,632
blame for all this because I was

2874
01:38:09,632 --> 01:38:11,566
out there saying it was just a

2875
01:38:11,566 --> 01:38:13,199
pole and camera and nothing

2876
01:38:13,199 --> 01:38:15,167
about expanding the airport.

2877
01:38:15,167 --> 01:38:15,531
Stop saying we're expanding the

2878
01:38:15,531 --> 01:38:17,531
airport.

2879
01:38:21,566 --> 01:38:23,990
Some people told me that they

2880
01:38:23,990 --> 01:38:23,731
ramped down because I was

2881
01:38:23,731 --> 01:38:25,298
telling them that.

2882
01:38:25,298 --> 01:38:26,320
I was telling them what I was

2883
01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:28,320
being told.

2884
01:38:28,331 --> 01:38:31,332
I feel to a certain extent, let

2885
01:38:31,332 --> 01:38:32,320
down that I was put in that

2886
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:34,320
position.

2887
01:38:34,831 --> 01:38:36,566
I'm aghast, and I apologize to

2888
01:38:36,566 --> 01:38:37,567
anybody for anything I told them

2889
01:38:37,567 --> 01:38:39,166
that was short of what is

2890
01:38:39,166 --> 01:38:41,166
reality.

2891
01:38:41,931 --> 01:38:42,465
I do look forward to your

2892
01:38:42,465 --> 01:38:44,465
addressing that.

2893
01:38:45,431 --> 01:38:46,298
Thank you.

2894
01:38:46,298 --> 01:38:48,666
>>Mayor Pachota: let's go ahead,

2895
01:38:48,666 --> 01:38:50,980
MADAM Clerk, if you'll reorder,

2896
01:38:50,980 --> 01:38:51,866
put vice mayor boldt ahead of

2897
01:38:51,866 --> 01:38:55,466
mine and let vice mayor go

2898
01:38:56,231 --> 01:38:58,231
first.

2899
01:38:58,566 --> 01:39:00,898
>>Vice Mayor Boldt: thank you.

2900
01:39:00,898 --> 01:39:01,399
it's distressing to listen to

2901
01:39:01,399 --> 01:39:03,399
the public.

2902
01:39:03,566 --> 01:39:05,566
It is distressing to listen to

2903
01:39:05,566 --> 01:39:07,532
all of this, simply because for

2904
01:39:07,532 --> 01:39:08,531
anybody that's worked with the

2905
01:39:08,531 --> 01:39:10,699
federal government, which we all

2906
01:39:10,699 --> 01:39:13,980
have in some way, shape, or

2907
01:39:13,980 --> 01:39:14,732
form, whether paying our taxes

2908
01:39:14,732 --> 01:39:16,266
or otherwise, you know there's

2909
01:39:16,266 --> 01:39:17,800
no easy answer.

2910
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:19,665
And there's usually not even a

2911
01:39:19,665 --> 01:39:21,665
straight answer.

2912
01:39:22,660 --> 01:39:25,666
I'm not here to defend anybody,

2913
01:39:26,166 --> 01:39:30,298
but the reality is that this is

2914
01:39:30,298 --> 01:39:31,264
kind of a moving target, shall

2915
01:39:31,264 --> 01:39:33,264
we say?

2916
01:39:33,431 --> 01:39:37,631
What we think we should have and

2917
01:39:38,498 --> 01:39:39,898
what the faa tells us we need to

2918
01:39:39,898 --> 01:39:42,831
have can be two entirely

2919
01:39:42,831 --> 01:39:44,831
different things.

2920
01:39:44,865 --> 01:39:45,999
I'm not putting words in james'

2921
01:39:45,999 --> 01:39:48,600
mouth because I don't really

2922
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:52,800
know the answer, but I get the

2923
01:39:53,299 --> 01:39:55,650
impression from our discussions

2924
01:39:55,650 --> 01:39:57,599
that you have to approach this

2925
01:39:57,599 --> 01:39:58,864
from different ways depending on

2926
01:39:58,864 --> 01:40:00,731
what you're after.

2927
01:40:00,731 --> 01:40:03,331
Is it you just need a tower for

2928
01:40:03,331 --> 01:40:07,398
safety or do you need a grant

2929
01:40:07,398 --> 01:40:08,399
for a tower?

2930
01:40:08,399 --> 01:40:09,265
Asking for a grant, you have to

2931
01:40:09,265 --> 01:40:10,564
substantiate that.

2932
01:40:10,564 --> 01:40:12,331
And I think that's a lot of what

2933
01:40:12,331 --> 01:40:15,931
we've seen in the report that

2934
01:40:16,798 --> 01:40:17,532
went to the faa, trying to

2935
01:40:17,532 --> 01:40:19,231
substantiate the need.

2936
01:40:19,231 --> 01:40:20,931
Do I agree with all the wording?

2937
01:40:20,931 --> 01:40:22,198
Of course, not.

2938
01:40:22,198 --> 01:40:24,465
Because it does sound like we're

2939
01:40:24,465 --> 01:40:25,731
trying to expand the airport.

2940
01:40:25,731 --> 01:40:27,399
I can tell you from my

2941
01:40:27,399 --> 01:40:28,799
standpoint here, that is not

2942
01:40:28,799 --> 01:40:31,199
what I'm looking for.

2943
01:40:31,865 --> 01:40:34,320
I'm looking for safety.

2944
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:35,598
So I would just, you know, I'm

2945
01:40:35,598 --> 01:40:36,732
all for this workshop.

2946
01:40:36,732 --> 01:40:38,231
I look forward to it.

2947
01:40:38,231 --> 01:40:40,298
I think it will be a great

2948
01:40:40,298 --> 01:40:43,898
opportunity for us to get with

2949
01:40:44,365 --> 01:40:45,899
attorney wilson, and try to get

2950
01:40:45,899 --> 01:40:48,198
us some clarity on what we're

2951
01:40:48,198 --> 01:40:49,298
allowed to do and what we're not

2952
01:40:49,298 --> 01:40:50,731
allowed to do.

2953
01:40:50,731 --> 01:40:54,331
Because I really get the feeling

2954
01:40:55,650 --> 01:40:56,498
that it's just like every other

2955
01:40:56,498 --> 01:40:57,931
federal government situation.

2956
01:40:57,931 --> 01:41:00,320
Well, today, it's this, but

2957
01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:01,765
tomorrow it could be this.

2958
01:41:01,765 --> 01:41:04,765
So I would just ask everybody to

2959
01:41:04,765 --> 01:41:08,650
bear that in mind, what our

2960
01:41:08,650 --> 01:41:11,980
staff is trying to do is put

2961
01:41:11,980 --> 01:41:14,298
together a program that gets us

2962
01:41:14,298 --> 01:41:15,465
where we need to be.

2963
01:41:15,465 --> 01:41:17,132
However, that MAY require them

2964
01:41:17,132 --> 01:41:18,265
to say some things that aren't

2965
01:41:18,265 --> 01:41:21,865
necessarily -- I don't want to

2966
01:41:21,965 --> 01:41:24,965
say untrue -- but aren't

2967
01:41:25,632 --> 01:41:27,132
necessarily what we in total are

2968
01:41:27,132 --> 01:41:27,998
looking for.

2969
01:41:27,998 --> 01:41:29,564
I'm all for this.

2970
01:41:29,564 --> 01:41:31,964
The sooner the better.

2971
01:41:32,531 --> 01:41:33,665
Thank you.

2972
01:41:33,665 --> 01:41:35,631
>>Mayor Pachota: I have a few

2973
01:41:35,631 --> 01:41:36,898
points of clarity.

2974
01:41:36,898 --> 01:41:37,197
This is where things get

2975
01:41:37,197 --> 01:41:38,832
complicated.

2976
01:41:38,832 --> 01:41:40,932
We have a lot of discussions.

2977
01:41:40,932 --> 01:41:42,664
We get a lot of feedback.

2978
01:41:42,664 --> 01:41:44,599
But, unfortunately, unless it is

2979
01:41:44,599 --> 01:41:46,197
voted on, a motion made by the

2980
01:41:46,197 --> 01:41:47,465
council and voted on, then it's

2981
01:41:47,465 --> 01:41:49,465
not official.

2982
01:41:49,965 --> 01:41:51,898
I think perhaps looking at some

2983
01:41:51,898 --> 01:41:52,732
of our previous information

2984
01:41:52,732 --> 01:41:54,765
sheets and making sure that all

2985
01:41:54,765 --> 01:41:56,631
of the data to date is correct

2986
01:41:56,631 --> 01:41:57,931
is another important piece to

2987
01:41:57,931 --> 01:41:59,365
this puzzle.

2988
01:41:59,365 --> 01:42:00,697
But I'm reminded now

2989
01:42:00,697 --> 01:42:02,531
specifically because the minutes

2990
01:42:02,531 --> 01:42:05,498
are in front of me, when we were

2991
01:42:05,498 --> 01:42:06,565
discussing this back in MAY of

2992
01:42:06,565 --> 01:42:07,632
2022, and we were having a

2993
01:42:07,632 --> 01:42:10,632
discussion about the master plan

2994
01:42:10,831 --> 01:42:13,310
and it needing to be updated and

2995
01:42:13,310 --> 01:42:14,665
I was then vice mayor and I

2996
01:42:14,665 --> 01:42:16,365
actually made the motion to move

2997
01:42:16,365 --> 01:42:18,430
up the master planning process

2998
01:42:18,430 --> 01:42:21,165
because we were afraid we were

2999
01:42:21,165 --> 01:42:22,465
going to be too far behind.

3000
01:42:22,465 --> 01:42:23,997
so, again, having a plan in

3001
01:42:23,997 --> 01:42:25,365
place is the most important

3002
01:42:25,365 --> 01:42:26,865
thing so we know what is coming

3003
01:42:26,865 --> 01:42:29,198
and what to expect.

3004
01:42:29,198 --> 01:42:32,365
But at no point in time did we

3005
01:42:32,365 --> 01:42:34,331
ever promote, discuss,

3006
01:42:34,331 --> 01:42:35,530
encourage, expansion beyond the

3007
01:42:35,530 --> 01:42:35,765
current footprint of the

3008
01:42:35,765 --> 01:42:37,731
airport.

3009
01:42:37,731 --> 01:42:39,310
I think that's important that we

3010
01:42:39,310 --> 01:42:40,199
highlight that because I'm

3011
01:42:40,199 --> 01:42:41,531
reminded by reading through the

3012
01:42:41,531 --> 01:42:43,698
motion here, specifically that

3013
01:42:43,698 --> 01:42:45,498
we said, well, we rather,

3014
01:42:45,498 --> 01:42:48,640
instead of this coming out of

3015
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:50,231
our general fund or our taxpayer

3016
01:42:50,231 --> 01:42:53,131
dollars, we rather get a grant

3017
01:42:53,131 --> 01:42:53,365
for this because we know it's

3018
01:42:53,365 --> 01:42:54,565
coming.

3019
01:42:54,565 --> 01:42:55,665
Very clear from the minutes this

3020
01:42:55,665 --> 01:42:57,397
was the presentation.

3021
01:42:57,397 --> 01:42:58,197
Getting some form of a tower,

3022
01:42:58,197 --> 01:42:59,264
whether remote.

3023
01:42:59,264 --> 01:43:01,565
At the time, I think we were

3024
01:43:01,565 --> 01:43:04,565
talking about a traditional faa

3025
01:43:04,731 --> 01:43:05,598
staffed tower, but we had the

3026
01:43:05,598 --> 01:43:06,998
forethought to say we want to

3027
01:43:06,998 --> 01:43:10,265
make sure we apply for grants so

3028
01:43:10,265 --> 01:43:11,965
we don't have to take it out of

3029
01:43:11,965 --> 01:43:13,965
our general fund.

3030
01:43:13,965 --> 01:43:14,965
That said, I'm absolutely in

3031
01:43:14,965 --> 01:43:16,299
favor of transparency.

3032
01:43:16,299 --> 01:43:16,564
I think having workshops is very

3033
01:43:16,564 --> 01:43:17,764
important.

3034
01:43:17,764 --> 01:43:18,398
I think it's important that

3035
01:43:18,398 --> 01:43:19,431
people understand that when we

3036
01:43:19,431 --> 01:43:21,198
have the workshops and we listen

3037
01:43:21,198 --> 01:43:23,650
to all the feedback, that

3038
01:43:23,650 --> 01:43:24,264
doesn't make it the actual

3039
01:43:24,264 --> 01:43:25,330
direction moving forward like

3040
01:43:25,330 --> 01:43:27,330
this does.

3041
01:43:27,965 --> 01:43:29,165
When the council makes a motion

3042
01:43:29,165 --> 01:43:30,465
and approves that motion and

3043
01:43:30,465 --> 01:43:32,465
this is unanimous.

3044
01:43:33,598 --> 01:43:34,997
I wasn't mayor at the time, but

3045
01:43:34,997 --> 01:43:36,365
everybody on the council at that

3046
01:43:36,365 --> 01:43:38,765
time had agreed to move forward

3047
01:43:38,765 --> 01:43:39,431
with pursuing grant funding for

3048
01:43:39,431 --> 01:43:40,531
that tower.

3049
01:43:40,531 --> 01:43:42,264
I think that's important that

3050
01:43:42,264 --> 01:43:44,531
we're talking back to '22.

3051
01:43:44,531 --> 01:43:44,765
This has been a very long

3052
01:43:44,765 --> 01:43:46,131
process.

3053
01:43:46,131 --> 01:43:46,631
If you look back at the

3054
01:43:46,631 --> 01:43:48,497
timeline.

3055
01:43:48,497 --> 01:43:48,697
It probably even started before

3056
01:43:48,697 --> 01:43:50,697
me.

3057
01:43:50,897 --> 01:43:53,330
But that said, I do have a

3058
01:43:53,330 --> 01:43:54,331
concern as it relates to the

3059
01:43:54,331 --> 01:43:56,297
date for the workshop.

3060
01:43:56,297 --> 01:43:57,931
Having just gone through this in

3061
01:43:57,931 --> 01:43:58,930
the primary election, I'm very

3062
01:43:58,930 --> 01:44:02,530
concerned that we would be doing

3063
01:44:02,664 --> 01:44:03,331
a workshop in the middle of

3064
01:44:03,331 --> 01:44:05,331
early voting.

3065
01:44:05,331 --> 01:44:08,640
So with all the candidates for

3066
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:09,300
seat 2 and two candidates for

3067
01:44:09,300 --> 01:44:10,563
another seat, I think it's

3068
01:44:10,563 --> 01:44:12,970
important that we not take away

3069
01:44:12,970 --> 01:44:13,397
from those individuals, the

3070
01:44:13,397 --> 01:44:14,398
ability to participate.

3071
01:44:14,398 --> 01:44:17,300
So I would say that we need to

3072
01:44:17,300 --> 01:44:19,263
look at something that's more

3073
01:44:19,263 --> 01:44:19,564
OCTOBER 15 would be my

3074
01:44:19,564 --> 01:44:21,564
suggestion.

3075
01:44:21,598 --> 01:44:23,980
I don't know how that fits into

3076
01:44:23,980 --> 01:44:25,231
staff's timeline, but I would

3077
01:44:25,231 --> 01:44:28,264
caution you before we solidify a

3078
01:44:28,264 --> 01:44:29,497
date here that we look at what's

3079
01:44:29,497 --> 01:44:30,963
going on during that time,

3080
01:44:30,963 --> 01:44:32,697
because you'll have early voting

3081
01:44:32,697 --> 01:44:34,497
and then the election and, of

3082
01:44:34,497 --> 01:44:36,980
course, things could change on

3083
01:44:36,980 --> 01:44:36,931
the council as far as who is

3084
01:44:36,931 --> 01:44:38,297
officially on the council.

3085
01:44:38,297 --> 01:44:39,698
I would like everybody to have

3086
01:44:39,698 --> 01:44:41,531
the opportunity to participate,

3087
01:44:41,531 --> 01:44:44,531
so I think we need to look at

3088
01:44:44,531 --> 01:44:46,530
the week before early voting so

3089
01:44:46,530 --> 01:44:47,864
we're not taking that away from

3090
01:44:47,864 --> 01:44:49,663
anybody.

3091
01:44:49,663 --> 01:44:50,664
Any comments or objections?

3092
01:44:50,664 --> 01:44:52,970
>>James Clinch: none at all.

3093
01:44:52,970 --> 01:44:53,830
I think more than ever, moving

3094
01:44:53,830 --> 01:44:54,980
it sooner is a good thing for

3095
01:44:54,980 --> 01:44:55,798
us.

3096
01:44:55,798 --> 01:44:58,131
We'll just have to confirm with

3097
01:44:58,131 --> 01:44:59,864
MR. Wilson to make sure that

3098
01:44:59,864 --> 01:45:00,631
works with his schedule.

3099
01:45:00,631 --> 01:45:02,731
If you want to give us authority

3100
01:45:02,731 --> 01:45:04,696
to work with the city clerk with

3101
01:45:04,696 --> 01:45:06,464
your all schedule, we can work

3102
01:45:06,464 --> 01:45:07,960
with MR. Wilson to find a date

3103
01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:07,931
that works.

3104
01:45:07,931 --> 01:45:09,797
>>Mayor Pachota: my proposal to

3105
01:45:09,797 --> 01:45:10,964
the council would be OCTOBER 15,

3106
01:45:10,964 --> 01:45:11,765
because I think you have make a

3107
01:45:11,765 --> 01:45:13,398
difference day happening the

3108
01:45:13,398 --> 01:45:15,496
next day and then you have that

3109
01:45:15,496 --> 01:45:17,597
weekend and then early voting

3110
01:45:17,597 --> 01:45:19,597
starting that weekend.

3111
01:45:20,663 --> 01:45:22,264
The other thing is, I'd like to

3112
01:45:22,264 --> 01:45:23,364
give you an opportunity to speak

3113
01:45:23,364 --> 01:45:25,664
to some of the things that we're

3114
01:45:25,664 --> 01:45:26,764
talking about.

3115
01:45:26,764 --> 01:45:28,197
I'm going to need to remind

3116
01:45:28,197 --> 01:45:29,730
everybody, probably the third or

3117
01:45:29,730 --> 01:45:31,797
fourth time, if we could take

3118
01:45:31,797 --> 01:45:32,797
our cell phones and put them on

3119
01:45:32,797 --> 01:45:33,897
silent so we can have

3120
01:45:33,897 --> 01:45:35,630
uninterrupted discussion, I

3121
01:45:35,630 --> 01:45:37,164
think that's very important.

3122
01:45:37,164 --> 01:45:38,564
I would like you to take a

3123
01:45:38,564 --> 01:45:41,970
minute, MR. Clinch, and just

3124
01:45:41,970 --> 01:45:42,397
kind of talk about some of these

3125
01:45:42,397 --> 01:45:42,864
concerns that have been brought

3126
01:45:42,864 --> 01:45:44,640
up.

3127
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:44,930
I specifically remember a time

3128
01:45:44,930 --> 01:45:45,697
when we were talking about

3129
01:45:45,697 --> 01:45:47,297
laurel road.

3130
01:45:47,297 --> 01:45:49,431
I had just come on to council,

3131
01:45:49,431 --> 01:45:49,997
talking about a public-private

3132
01:45:49,997 --> 01:45:51,970
partnership.

3133
01:45:51,970 --> 01:45:52,330
Everybody on the northeast side

3134
01:45:52,330 --> 01:45:53,864
was in favor.

3135
01:45:53,864 --> 01:45:55,597
Then we had a group come in, I

3136
01:45:55,597 --> 01:45:56,996
think they just moved into town,

3137
01:45:56,996 --> 01:45:58,960
kind of built up and then all of

3138
01:45:58,960 --> 01:46:00,196
a sudden wanted to pump the

3139
01:46:00,196 --> 01:46:01,931
brakes on it, came back to the

3140
01:46:01,931 --> 01:46:03,300
council, hey, we want to move

3141
01:46:03,300 --> 01:46:04,331
forward on the expansion of

3142
01:46:04,331 --> 01:46:04,897
laurel road.

3143
01:46:04,897 --> 01:46:05,896
It's very complicated as a

3144
01:46:05,896 --> 01:46:07,764
council member because you're

3145
01:46:07,764 --> 01:46:08,264
trying to listen to your

3146
01:46:08,264 --> 01:46:09,197
constituents.

3147
01:46:09,197 --> 01:46:11,597
I specifically remember looking

3148
01:46:12,364 --> 01:46:13,464
at the audience at that time and

3149
01:46:13,464 --> 01:46:14,797
saying, I want to very

3150
01:46:14,797 --> 01:46:17,163
cautiously move forward on this

3151
01:46:17,163 --> 01:46:19,698
because we've already had two

3152
01:46:19,698 --> 01:46:20,310
different pump-the-brakes

3153
01:46:20,310 --> 01:46:21,896
conversation.

3154
01:46:21,896 --> 01:46:22,764
If you really want us to move

3155
01:46:22,764 --> 01:46:24,264
forward, I want to hear it from

3156
01:46:24,264 --> 01:46:25,897
a lot of people that we're

3157
01:46:25,897 --> 01:46:28,297
moving forward so I'm not

3158
01:46:28,297 --> 01:46:28,497
pumping the brakes on something

3159
01:46:28,497 --> 01:46:30,497
again.

3160
01:46:30,729 --> 01:46:30,964
Kind of reliving that with the

3161
01:46:30,964 --> 01:46:32,163
airport.

3162
01:46:32,163 --> 01:46:33,930
Had concerns over time.

3163
01:46:33,930 --> 01:46:35,430
Since I was a kid, we talked

3164
01:46:35,430 --> 01:46:36,530
about having the airport

3165
01:46:36,530 --> 01:46:39,530
relocated across town and other

3166
01:46:39,764 --> 01:46:41,970
parts of the state.

3167
01:46:41,970 --> 01:46:42,530
I'm not trying to minimize

3168
01:46:42,530 --> 01:46:45,496
anyone's concerns, but at the

3169
01:46:45,496 --> 01:46:47,463
same time, the master plan

3170
01:46:47,463 --> 01:46:50,430
should be for us to have a plan

3171
01:46:50,430 --> 01:46:50,664
so that we can see what's

3172
01:46:50,664 --> 01:46:52,664
coming.

3173
01:46:53,329 --> 01:46:56,396
It should not be for us to do

3174
01:46:56,396 --> 01:46:58,330
any expansions, to do anything

3175
01:46:58,330 --> 01:46:59,530
that's going to drive more

3176
01:46:59,530 --> 01:47:01,164
growth at the airport.

3177
01:47:01,164 --> 01:47:02,697
I've been very vocal about that

3178
01:47:02,697 --> 01:47:03,797
since the beginning of this.

3179
01:47:03,797 --> 01:47:04,896
I want you to have an

3180
01:47:04,896 --> 01:47:05,896
opportunity here to talk about

3181
01:47:05,896 --> 01:47:07,997
some of the concerns because I'm

3182
01:47:07,997 --> 01:47:09,640
seeing it again in my e-mail.

3183
01:47:09,640 --> 01:47:11,929
There are definitely some things

3184
01:47:11,929 --> 01:47:13,797
that seem to be misconstrued

3185
01:47:13,797 --> 01:47:14,764
facts or misunderstandings or

3186
01:47:14,764 --> 01:47:16,330
whatever it might be.

3187
01:47:16,330 --> 01:47:17,363
So if you'd like to take a

3188
01:47:17,363 --> 01:47:19,296
minute to kind of go over some

3189
01:47:19,296 --> 01:47:20,929
of that, I'm going to give you

3190
01:47:20,929 --> 01:47:21,596
that opportunity.

3191
01:47:21,596 --> 01:47:23,529
>>James Clinch: thank you,

3192
01:47:23,529 --> 01:47:25,290
mayor.

3193
01:47:25,290 --> 01:47:27,229
Happy to also work with the

3194
01:47:27,229 --> 01:47:28,650
history which you touched on, on

3195
01:47:28,650 --> 01:47:29,564
the tower.

3196
01:47:29,564 --> 01:47:30,964
This did come up originally over

3197
01:47:30,964 --> 01:47:32,331
four years ago.

3198
01:47:32,331 --> 01:47:34,465
It was brought to our attention

3199
01:47:34,465 --> 01:47:36,465
by vasi directly.

3200
01:47:36,798 --> 01:47:38,797
it still is today all about

3201
01:47:38,797 --> 01:47:40,797
safety.

3202
01:47:40,996 --> 01:47:42,529
This was a major safety concern

3203
01:47:42,529 --> 01:47:43,930
that they brought forward to us,

3204
01:47:43,930 --> 01:47:46,464
made a presentation to council,

3205
01:47:46,464 --> 01:47:48,664
and we got the direction at that

3206
01:47:48,664 --> 01:47:52,264
point in time to expedite the

3207
01:47:52,397 --> 01:47:53,696
master plan and to pursue grant

3208
01:47:53,696 --> 01:47:55,831
sources for a tower.

3209
01:47:55,831 --> 01:47:57,797
At that point in time, remote

3210
01:47:57,797 --> 01:48:00,980
towers were not really well

3211
01:48:00,980 --> 01:48:00,863
known and were not authorized

3212
01:48:00,863 --> 01:48:02,863
for use.

3213
01:48:03,929 --> 01:48:07,863
So there was a real potential of

3214
01:48:07,863 --> 01:48:08,630
having a brick and mortar style

3215
01:48:08,630 --> 01:48:09,929
tower.

3216
01:48:09,929 --> 01:48:10,163
I want to clear that up, next

3217
01:48:10,163 --> 01:48:12,163
topic.

3218
01:48:12,563 --> 01:48:13,897
What we heard today, nothing has

3219
01:48:13,897 --> 01:48:16,970
really changed with the tower.

3220
01:48:16,970 --> 01:48:17,963
It's still a remote tower that

3221
01:48:17,963 --> 01:48:19,829
we're pursuing, as it always has

3222
01:48:19,829 --> 01:48:21,730
been, a camera on top of poles,

3223
01:48:21,730 --> 01:48:24,663
but you still have to have a

3224
01:48:24,663 --> 01:48:26,629
place where humans are

3225
01:48:26,629 --> 01:48:28,300
monitoring these virtual -- the

3226
01:48:28,300 --> 01:48:29,163
virtual information that's

3227
01:48:29,163 --> 01:48:32,163
coming into a control room.

3228
01:48:32,330 --> 01:48:34,397
When I spoke to you all in JUNE,

3229
01:48:34,397 --> 01:48:36,263
and this kind of goes to the

3230
01:48:36,263 --> 01:48:36,897
root of the challenge that we're

3231
01:48:36,897 --> 01:48:38,563
having here.

3232
01:48:38,563 --> 01:48:40,960
I certainly apologize to the

3233
01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:41,397
community for any misinformation

3234
01:48:41,397 --> 01:48:43,397
or misinterpretation that's

3235
01:48:44,131 --> 01:48:45,563
happened.

3236
01:48:45,563 --> 01:48:47,330
But while we were on breaks from

3237
01:48:47,330 --> 01:48:48,430
council meetings, our staff are

3238
01:48:48,430 --> 01:48:49,762
actively still working.

3239
01:48:49,762 --> 01:48:51,362
So there have been some changes

3240
01:48:51,362 --> 01:48:53,263
since JUNE that we just haven't

3241
01:48:53,263 --> 01:48:56,300
had the opportunity to share.

3242
01:48:56,300 --> 01:48:57,429
One of the big changes is we had

3243
01:48:57,429 --> 01:48:58,830
hoped, and I talked about in

3244
01:48:58,830 --> 01:49:01,730
JUNE, we hoped that we would be

3245
01:49:01,730 --> 01:49:03,497
able to put that control room

3246
01:49:03,497 --> 01:49:05,300
within the new administrative

3247
01:49:05,300 --> 01:49:07,197
building that we are building,

3248
01:49:07,197 --> 01:49:08,630
that's under construction today

3249
01:49:08,630 --> 01:49:10,196
on the airport property.

3250
01:49:10,196 --> 01:49:13,196
our engineers and our architects

3251
01:49:13,396 --> 01:49:15,130
were directed to look into that,

3252
01:49:15,130 --> 01:49:15,763
modifying the building to

3253
01:49:15,763 --> 01:49:17,950
incorporate it.

3254
01:49:17,950 --> 01:49:18,730
The only way it would fit

3255
01:49:18,730 --> 01:49:20,963
because it is a pretty big space

3256
01:49:20,963 --> 01:49:22,495
with all the screens and I.T.

3257
01:49:22,495 --> 01:49:23,462
Equipment is if we lost the

3258
01:49:23,462 --> 01:49:25,462
community room.

3259
01:49:26,230 --> 01:49:27,963
Well, that community room is

3260
01:49:27,963 --> 01:49:30,130
something we've been promising

3261
01:49:30,130 --> 01:49:31,363
the airport and south island

3262
01:49:31,363 --> 01:49:32,997
community for years.

3263
01:49:32,997 --> 01:49:34,629
So I was not comfortable with

3264
01:49:34,629 --> 01:49:35,863
losing the community room and

3265
01:49:35,863 --> 01:49:36,563
replacing it with a control

3266
01:49:36,563 --> 01:49:38,195
room.

3267
01:49:38,195 --> 01:49:40,363
So I asked our staff, I said, we

3268
01:49:40,363 --> 01:49:41,640
need to go back to the drawing

3269
01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:43,640
board.

3270
01:49:44,863 --> 01:49:46,829
So that's where this potential

3271
01:49:46,829 --> 01:49:48,897
other location came from.

3272
01:49:48,897 --> 01:49:49,363
So we have to put the control

3273
01:49:49,363 --> 01:49:50,662
room somewhere.

3274
01:49:50,662 --> 01:49:51,295
Where could that control room

3275
01:49:51,295 --> 01:49:52,563
be?

3276
01:49:52,563 --> 01:49:53,663
Well, it could be off-site.

3277
01:49:53,663 --> 01:49:56,300
It could be anywhere.

3278
01:49:56,300 --> 01:49:58,163
It could be at our airport in

3279
01:49:58,163 --> 01:50:00,196
another small modular building.

3280
01:50:00,196 --> 01:50:02,196
It could be at a different

3281
01:50:02,196 --> 01:50:04,960
airport in tampa or arcadia.

3282
01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:06,597
These are decisions that have

3283
01:50:06,597 --> 01:50:08,995
not been made yet, but as part

3284
01:50:08,995 --> 01:50:10,963
of the grant process, there are

3285
01:50:10,963 --> 01:50:13,763
decisions that have to be

3286
01:50:13,763 --> 01:50:14,463
clarified and conceptualized for

3287
01:50:14,463 --> 01:50:15,963
the faa.

3288
01:50:15,963 --> 01:50:16,696
That's where this presentation

3289
01:50:16,696 --> 01:50:18,696
came from.

3290
01:50:19,300 --> 01:50:21,197
It was a direct response to

3291
01:50:21,197 --> 01:50:23,596
questions that came in from the

3292
01:50:23,596 --> 01:50:23,829
faa as part of the grant

3293
01:50:23,829 --> 01:50:24,963
process.

3294
01:50:24,963 --> 01:50:26,496
Kind of going back to the

3295
01:50:26,496 --> 01:50:27,930
history, we talked about this

3296
01:50:27,930 --> 01:50:30,529
remote tower for four years.

3297
01:50:30,529 --> 01:50:31,663
Talked about it at length at our

3298
01:50:31,663 --> 01:50:33,630
FEBRUARY strategic planning

3299
01:50:33,630 --> 01:50:35,495
session and got into our

3300
01:50:35,495 --> 01:50:37,429
strategic plan, and we've been

3301
01:50:37,429 --> 01:50:39,630
lucky enough now that there is

3302
01:50:39,630 --> 01:50:41,129
this authorized remote tower

3303
01:50:41,129 --> 01:50:42,563
system that we can pursue.

3304
01:50:42,563 --> 01:50:43,963
We submitted the grant.

3305
01:50:43,963 --> 01:50:46,296
We don't know yet if we're going

3306
01:50:46,296 --> 01:50:49,363
to be awarded this grant or not,

3307
01:50:49,363 --> 01:50:50,795
but if we were, it would be a

3308
01:50:50,795 --> 01:50:52,328
huge benefit from a safety

3309
01:50:52,328 --> 01:50:54,728
standpoint to our airport.

3310
01:50:56,395 --> 01:50:57,828
And from a financial standpoint,

3311
01:50:57,828 --> 01:51:00,280
it would cover virtually the

3312
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:01,290
entire cost of the remote tower.

3313
01:51:01,290 --> 01:51:02,996
What I would propose, and why

3314
01:51:02,996 --> 01:51:05,290
this workshop is so important,

3315
01:51:05,290 --> 01:51:06,395
if we hold it after we know --

3316
01:51:06,395 --> 01:51:08,297
we should hear on the grant

3317
01:51:08,297 --> 01:51:08,995
award really within the next 30

3318
01:51:08,995 --> 01:51:10,429
days or so.

3319
01:51:10,429 --> 01:51:11,662
When we hold this workshop,

3320
01:51:11,662 --> 01:51:12,564
we'll know if we're getting the

3321
01:51:12,564 --> 01:51:14,564
money or not.

3322
01:51:15,529 --> 01:51:16,496
When we know we're getting the

3323
01:51:16,496 --> 01:51:17,629
money, we can have those more

3324
01:51:17,629 --> 01:51:19,629
substantial conversations about

3325
01:51:20,163 --> 01:51:20,496
how are we going to staff the

3326
01:51:20,496 --> 01:51:22,428
tower?

3327
01:51:22,428 --> 01:51:24,795
Do we want to have in-house

3328
01:51:24,795 --> 01:51:25,963
controllers or contract it out?

3329
01:51:25,963 --> 01:51:27,463
Where do we want to put the

3330
01:51:27,463 --> 01:51:29,290
control room?

3331
01:51:29,290 --> 01:51:30,895
There are a lot of benefits,

3332
01:51:30,895 --> 01:51:31,395
pros and cons to all the

3333
01:51:31,395 --> 01:51:33,395
scenarios.

3334
01:51:33,863 --> 01:51:34,280
We just haven't gotten into that

3335
01:51:34,280 --> 01:51:35,630
yet.

3336
01:51:35,630 --> 01:51:37,628
It is a little bit unfortunate

3337
01:51:37,628 --> 01:51:40,628
that this conceptual plan is

3338
01:51:41,129 --> 01:51:42,763
being taken out of context and

3339
01:51:42,763 --> 01:51:43,196
used as this is what's going to

3340
01:51:43,196 --> 01:51:44,964
happen.

3341
01:51:44,964 --> 01:51:47,364
That's just not true.

3342
01:51:48,363 --> 01:51:48,996
But I'm sorry we weren't able to

3343
01:51:48,996 --> 01:51:50,929
get ahead of it sooner.

3344
01:51:50,929 --> 01:51:52,496
The last thing I want to say and

3345
01:51:52,496 --> 01:51:54,997
this is the most important

3346
01:51:54,997 --> 01:51:57,663
thing, it's still about safety.

3347
01:51:57,663 --> 01:52:00,629
In 2022, when this came up, it

3348
01:52:00,629 --> 01:52:03,290
was about safety, and we are now

3349
01:52:03,290 --> 01:52:03,996
41% higher operations than we

3350
01:52:03,996 --> 01:52:05,996
were in 2022.

3351
01:52:07,361 --> 01:52:09,896
If it was unsafe then, it's 41%

3352
01:52:09,896 --> 01:52:10,195
more unsafe at this point in

3353
01:52:10,195 --> 01:52:12,195
time.

3354
01:52:12,861 --> 01:52:14,195
We've also had a study from

3355
01:52:14,195 --> 01:52:16,362
F.D.O.T., an engineering

3356
01:52:16,362 --> 01:52:18,996
analysis, to say a tower is

3357
01:52:18,996 --> 01:52:20,763
warranted for safety purposes.

3358
01:52:20,763 --> 01:52:23,960
I can't stress that enough.

3359
01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:24,561
I love the video slip of the

3360
01:52:24,561 --> 01:52:25,329
statement I made because that is

3361
01:52:25,329 --> 01:52:27,262
so true.

3362
01:52:27,262 --> 01:52:30,261
Safety is paramount when you are

3363
01:52:30,261 --> 01:52:31,328
running this type of operation.

3364
01:52:31,328 --> 01:52:33,195
Unfortunately, we've had

3365
01:52:33,195 --> 01:52:34,296
incidents, we've had fatalities

3366
01:52:34,296 --> 01:52:35,696
at our airport.

3367
01:52:35,696 --> 01:52:37,461
I'll do everything in my

3368
01:52:37,461 --> 01:52:39,697
authority to make sure we reduce

3369
01:52:39,697 --> 01:52:40,963
that risk moving forward.

3370
01:52:40,963 --> 01:52:41,796
Safety remains the most

3371
01:52:41,796 --> 01:52:43,796
important thing.

3372
01:52:43,861 --> 01:52:44,929
Will there be benefits for noise

3373
01:52:44,929 --> 01:52:46,929
abatement, absolutely.

3374
01:52:47,163 --> 01:52:48,996
We'll have more control over the

3375
01:52:48,996 --> 01:52:52,262
zero control that we have today.

3376
01:52:52,262 --> 01:52:52,996
So there's some ancillary

3377
01:52:52,996 --> 01:52:55,262
benefits, but it's all about

3378
01:52:55,262 --> 01:52:56,629
safety.

3379
01:52:56,629 --> 01:52:57,697
Last thing I want to say is I

3380
01:52:57,697 --> 01:53:00,970
appreciate everybody who reached

3381
01:53:00,196 --> 01:53:01,129
out to our office yesterday with

3382
01:53:01,129 --> 01:53:02,428
questions.

3383
01:53:02,428 --> 01:53:04,596
We answered everybody who called

3384
01:53:04,596 --> 01:53:06,896
in and every e-mail that came in

3385
01:53:06,896 --> 01:53:07,896
and we will continue and be open

3386
01:53:07,896 --> 01:53:09,661
to do that.

3387
01:53:09,661 --> 01:53:11,162
I hope that helped to at least

3388
01:53:11,162 --> 01:53:11,828
clarify where we are a little

3389
01:53:11,828 --> 01:53:13,295
bit today.

3390
01:53:13,295 --> 01:53:15,362
>>Mayor Pachota: with that, is

3391
01:53:15,362 --> 01:53:15,695
there any other question for MR.

3392
01:53:15,695 --> 01:53:16,996
Clinch?

3393
01:53:16,996 --> 01:53:18,896
MR. Smith.

3394
01:53:18,896 --> 01:53:19,963
>>Ron Smith: just briefly.

3395
01:53:19,963 --> 01:53:21,829
Two things.

3396
01:53:21,829 --> 01:53:24,829
I first focused on yesterday,

3397
01:53:27,229 --> 01:53:28,629
when we saw e-mails, and, again,

3398
01:53:28,629 --> 01:53:30,295
I don't know the actual

3399
01:53:30,295 --> 01:53:33,895
situation, so I'd ask if you

3400
01:53:34,229 --> 01:53:37,529
could give us a quick update,

3401
01:53:37,529 --> 01:53:38,128
not wait until fire off

3402
01:53:38,128 --> 01:53:39,496
workshop.

3403
01:53:39,496 --> 01:53:42,462
People were asking about whether

3404
01:53:42,462 --> 01:53:46,620
we are planning to buy air

3405
01:53:46,529 --> 01:53:49,162
rights or outright buy homes as

3406
01:53:49,162 --> 01:53:49,428
part of our noise abatement

3407
01:53:49,428 --> 01:53:51,290
situation.

3408
01:53:51,290 --> 01:53:52,562
There was a map showing where

3409
01:53:52,562 --> 01:53:54,195
they would be and people saying

3410
01:53:54,195 --> 01:53:55,395
I live right next to that,

3411
01:53:55,395 --> 01:53:57,795
what's going on there.

3412
01:53:58,229 --> 01:54:00,329
Is it possible to update the

3413
01:54:00,329 --> 01:54:02,195
public on that at this moment?

3414
01:54:02,195 --> 01:54:03,162
The other one last night being

3415
01:54:03,162 --> 01:54:06,290
asked about whether we're going

3416
01:54:06,290 --> 01:54:07,929
to have a second fixed-base

3417
01:54:07,929 --> 01:54:08,695
operator and what is the status

3418
01:54:08,695 --> 01:54:10,561
of that.

3419
01:54:10,561 --> 01:54:12,330
If I could ask those today so

3420
01:54:12,330 --> 01:54:12,695
people know what the situation

3421
01:54:12,695 --> 01:54:14,529
is.

3422
01:54:14,529 --> 01:54:16,620
>>James Clinch: sure.

3423
01:54:16,620 --> 01:54:16,395
I'm happy to tell you what I

3424
01:54:16,395 --> 01:54:18,295
know.

3425
01:54:18,295 --> 01:54:19,729
Airport directors in the back,

3426
01:54:19,729 --> 01:54:20,620
if you want to get into more

3427
01:54:20,620 --> 01:54:21,829
details.

3428
01:54:21,829 --> 01:54:22,562
These are really separate from

3429
01:54:22,562 --> 01:54:23,694
the tower discussion.

3430
01:54:23,694 --> 01:54:25,962
There was an exhibit in the

3431
01:54:25,962 --> 01:54:28,494
tower grant that showed the rpz,

3432
01:54:28,494 --> 01:54:30,162
the runway protection zone,

3433
01:54:30,162 --> 01:54:30,462
showed it overlapping three

3434
01:54:30,462 --> 01:54:31,562
properties.

3435
01:54:31,562 --> 01:54:32,462
This is really part of the

3436
01:54:32,462 --> 01:54:34,295
master plan process.

3437
01:54:34,295 --> 01:54:34,961
We'll be talking more about

3438
01:54:34,961 --> 01:54:36,729
this.

3439
01:54:36,729 --> 01:54:37,929
My understanding is the faa is

3440
01:54:37,929 --> 01:54:39,363
looking at those three

3441
01:54:39,363 --> 01:54:39,761
properties as a hazard, because

3442
01:54:39,761 --> 01:54:41,761
they are.

3443
01:54:41,862 --> 01:54:44,862
They are in the rpz.

3444
01:54:45,262 --> 01:54:46,729
We were able to move that rpz

3445
01:54:46,729 --> 01:54:47,361
about ten years ago or so which

3446
01:54:47,361 --> 01:54:49,195
was great.

3447
01:54:49,195 --> 01:54:51,195
We took a lot of houses out of

3448
01:54:51,195 --> 01:54:52,528
the danger zone by shifting the

3449
01:54:52,528 --> 01:54:53,962
runway to the south.

3450
01:54:53,962 --> 01:54:55,162
but there are still three

3451
01:54:55,162 --> 01:54:55,428
properties that are within that

3452
01:54:55,428 --> 01:54:57,428
rpz.

3453
01:54:57,728 --> 01:54:59,728
I believe the faa is looking at

3454
01:54:59,728 --> 01:55:00,895
that going, you really need to

3455
01:55:00,895 --> 01:55:02,610
have a plan for these properties

3456
01:55:02,610 --> 01:55:05,610
in the future, whether it's

3457
01:55:05,295 --> 01:55:06,195
getting an easement or outright

3458
01:55:06,195 --> 01:55:07,950
buying those properties.

3459
01:55:07,950 --> 01:55:10,950
That's something that we will

3460
01:55:10,561 --> 01:55:11,595
talk more about when we get into

3461
01:55:11,595 --> 01:55:12,828
the master plan.

3462
01:55:12,828 --> 01:55:14,950
I spoke to a couple of people

3463
01:55:14,950 --> 01:55:16,950
about this yesterday.

3464
01:55:16,862 --> 01:55:17,695
We are not actively pursuing any

3465
01:55:17,695 --> 01:55:18,495
purchase of those properties.

3466
01:55:18,495 --> 01:55:20,495
Ing

3467
01:55:21,295 --> 01:55:23,263
.Nothing is happening at this

3468
01:55:23,263 --> 01:55:24,362
point in time but is part of a

3469
01:55:24,362 --> 01:55:25,262
discussion for the master plan.

3470
01:55:25,262 --> 01:55:26,528
>>Mayor Pachota: I think you

3471
01:55:26,528 --> 01:55:29,161
need to highlight we're not

3472
01:55:29,161 --> 01:55:29,395
actively pursuing eminent domain

3473
01:55:29,395 --> 01:55:30,595
either.

3474
01:55:30,595 --> 01:55:31,694
I think that was a very big

3475
01:55:31,694 --> 01:55:32,328
concern, are you coming to take

3476
01:55:32,328 --> 01:55:33,995
my house?

3477
01:55:33,995 --> 01:55:35,995
>>James Clinch: correct.

3478
01:55:35,995 --> 01:55:37,163
Not pursuing eminent domain.

3479
01:55:37,163 --> 01:55:40,163
It is the master plan.

3480
01:55:40,695 --> 01:55:42,463
It is the plan for the next 10

3481
01:55:42,463 --> 01:55:44,362
to 30 years of the airport.

3482
01:55:44,362 --> 01:55:46,630
Second fbo, again, something

3483
01:55:46,630 --> 01:55:47,495
that ties into the master plan.

3484
01:55:47,495 --> 01:55:49,595
I think it's very well known at

3485
01:55:49,595 --> 01:55:52,362
some point in time there will be

3486
01:55:52,362 --> 01:55:53,995
a need for second fbo.

3487
01:55:53,995 --> 01:55:55,728
We're looking in the master plan

3488
01:55:55,728 --> 01:55:57,728
and we'll get into where these

3489
01:55:57,728 --> 01:55:59,562
kind of things could go, because

3490
01:55:59,562 --> 01:56:01,762
as we heard in the video clip,

3491
01:56:01,762 --> 01:56:04,620
which is true, we do want to try

3492
01:56:04,620 --> 01:56:05,761
to shift the more impactful

3493
01:56:05,761 --> 01:56:07,195
operations to the far east side

3494
01:56:07,195 --> 01:56:09,195
of the airport.

3495
01:56:09,695 --> 01:56:11,561
If and when an fbo were to come

3496
01:56:11,561 --> 01:56:12,161
in, that would be the area we

3497
01:56:12,161 --> 01:56:13,395
would look at.

3498
01:56:13,395 --> 01:56:16,270
That will be talked about in

3499
01:56:16,270 --> 01:56:16,960
more depth with the master plan.

3500
01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:17,195
>>Ron Smith: thank you for those

3501
01:56:17,195 --> 01:56:18,396
answers.

3502
01:56:18,396 --> 01:56:19,862
>>Mayor Pachota: with that, I'll

3503
01:56:19,862 --> 01:56:23,270
make a motion then that we

3504
01:56:23,270 --> 01:56:24,695
schedule the airport workshop,

3505
01:56:24,695 --> 01:56:26,295
and, if we could, look at the

3506
01:56:26,295 --> 01:56:27,795
date of OCTOBER 15, or working

3507
01:56:27,795 --> 01:56:29,161
with the clerk's office, propose

3508
01:56:29,161 --> 01:56:31,295
a date that works with all of

3509
01:56:31,295 --> 01:56:33,295
the council members.

3510
01:56:33,494 --> 01:56:35,161
Seconded by vice mayor boldt.

3511
01:56:35,161 --> 01:56:38,628
MADAM Clerk, do you have anybody

3512
01:56:38,628 --> 01:56:39,428
signed up to speak?

3513
01:56:39,428 --> 01:56:40,295
>> no, we do not.

3514
01:56:40,295 --> 01:56:42,695
>>Mayor Pachota: any council

3515
01:56:43,395 --> 01:56:45,795
discussion on the motion?

3516
01:56:45,995 --> 01:56:47,595
Seeing none, MADAM Clerk, if you

3517
01:56:47,595 --> 01:56:47,795
can ready us for an electronic

3518
01:56:47,795 --> 01:56:48,661
vote.

3519
01:56:48,661 --> 01:56:49,960
Council members, when your

3520
01:56:49,960 --> 01:56:51,428
lights are flashing, you can

3521
01:56:51,428 --> 01:56:53,280
indicate your vote.

3522
01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:53,627
MADAM Clerk, you can tally and

3523
01:56:53,627 --> 01:56:54,727
display the vote.

3524
01:56:54,727 --> 01:56:56,727
It passes unanimously.

3525
01:56:59,950 --> 01:57:00,661
[Sounding gavel]

3526
01:57:00,661 --> 01:57:02,495
We do have a noon executive

3527
01:57:02,495 --> 01:57:03,928
session scheduled, so I'll move

3528
01:57:03,928 --> 01:57:05,128
on to the next item and then

3529
01:57:05,128 --> 01:57:08,128
we'll probably break after that

3530
01:57:08,161 --> 01:57:11,161
to go to executive session.

3531
01:57:13,328 --> 01:57:15,727
With that let's move on to

3532
01:57:15,727 --> 01:57:19,327
26-0706, and this is an item

3533
01:57:19,595 --> 01:57:20,228
that was put on by MR. Smith and

3534
01:57:20,228 --> 01:57:21,228
MS. Frank.

3535
01:57:21,228 --> 01:57:25,428
So MR. Smith, if you would like

3536
01:57:29,761 --> 01:57:31,228
to introduce the topic briefly.

3537
01:57:31,228 --> 01:57:32,428
>>Ron Smith: thank you, mayor.

3538
01:57:32,428 --> 01:57:34,610
I know you want an introduction

3539
01:57:34,610 --> 01:57:35,828
and then a discussion.

3540
01:57:35,828 --> 01:57:37,828
I'll try.

3541
01:57:38,795 --> 01:57:40,270
I was extremely impressed with a

3542
01:57:40,270 --> 01:57:43,270
presentation given to us over

3543
01:57:43,728 --> 01:57:45,293
the course of two meetings by

3544
01:57:45,293 --> 01:57:46,760
steve carr on this topic.

3545
01:57:46,760 --> 01:57:49,128
And we have since received

3546
01:57:49,128 --> 01:57:51,528
materials from their lawyer.

3547
01:57:53,961 --> 01:57:58,761
So I wanted us to have a good

3548
01:58:04,494 --> 01:58:05,528
discussion of this long-standing

3549
01:58:05,528 --> 01:58:06,894
issue involving curry creek.

3550
01:58:06,894 --> 01:58:08,327
>>Mayor Pachota: with that, is

3551
01:58:08,327 --> 01:58:10,628
there any staff input on this,

3552
01:58:10,628 --> 01:58:12,493
MR. Clinch?

3553
01:58:12,493 --> 01:58:14,128
>>James Clinch: yes, mayor, if

3554
01:58:14,128 --> 01:58:15,294
it's satisfactory, I'd love to

3555
01:58:15,294 --> 01:58:17,260
invite our city engineer up to

3556
01:58:17,260 --> 01:58:18,995
give you an update on really the

3557
01:58:18,995 --> 01:58:20,428
two items, one being the swap

3558
01:58:20,428 --> 01:58:22,294
with sarasota county on deer

3559
01:58:22,294 --> 01:58:24,610
town gully and curry creek.

3560
01:58:24,610 --> 01:58:25,260
The second being the private

3561
01:58:25,260 --> 01:58:27,660
maintenance discussion on the

3562
01:58:34,270 --> 01:58:34,894
sawgrass section.

3563
01:58:34,894 --> 01:58:37,894
>>Mayor Pachota: he's already up

3564
01:58:40,393 --> 01:58:41,961
here and ready to go.

3565
01:58:41,961 --> 01:58:42,194
>> good morning, mayor and

3566
01:58:42,194 --> 01:58:44,194
council.

3567
01:58:46,561 --> 01:58:46,827
For the record, jon kramer, city

3568
01:58:46,827 --> 01:58:48,827
engineer.

3569
01:58:49,294 --> 01:58:53,494
I do have some exhibits for the

3570
01:58:57,728 --> 01:58:59,728
overhead.

3571
01:59:00,294 --> 01:59:03,294
As a reminder, you're probably

3572
01:59:03,694 --> 01:59:06,694
familiar with this exhibit, this

3573
01:59:07,940 --> 01:59:08,927
is showing the patchwork

3574
01:59:08,927 --> 01:59:11,260
fractured nature of maintenance

3575
01:59:11,260 --> 01:59:11,226
for curry creek and blackburn

3576
01:59:11,226 --> 01:59:13,226
canal.

3577
01:59:13,660 --> 01:59:15,226
There are several segments here

3578
01:59:15,226 --> 01:59:17,626
that have different entities

3579
01:59:18,270 --> 01:59:18,460
responsible for their

3580
01:59:18,460 --> 01:59:20,261
maintenance.

3581
01:59:20,261 --> 01:59:21,794
Some sections, there is a

3582
01:59:21,794 --> 01:59:24,794
different entity on the north

3583
01:59:25,826 --> 01:59:26,270
side and the south side of the

3584
01:59:26,270 --> 01:59:27,827
creek.

3585
01:59:27,827 --> 01:59:30,460
The city is responsible for the

3586
01:59:30,460 --> 01:59:33,394
portion of the yellow and green

3587
01:59:33,394 --> 01:59:35,794
portions of curry creek.

3588
01:59:37,461 --> 01:59:40,860
In an effort to consolidate the

3589
01:59:40,860 --> 01:59:43,260
maintenance, city staff begun a

3590
01:59:43,260 --> 01:59:44,993
conversation with county staff

3591
01:59:44,993 --> 01:59:47,127
to transfer this portion of

3592
01:59:47,127 --> 01:59:49,527
curry creek from city

3593
01:59:50,940 --> 01:59:52,895
responsibility to county, and in

3594
01:59:52,895 --> 01:59:56,495
return, the city would take the

3595
01:59:58,261 --> 02:00:00,661
responsibility for deer town

3596
02:00:02,894 --> 02:00:04,627
gully.

3597
02:00:04,627 --> 02:00:06,826
This is the portion that the

3598
02:00:06,826 --> 02:00:08,327
city is responsible for

3599
02:00:08,327 --> 02:00:10,127
maintenance of curry creek that

3600
02:00:10,127 --> 02:00:11,694
we would like to transfer to the

3601
02:00:11,694 --> 02:00:13,394
county.

3602
02:00:13,394 --> 02:00:15,261
Through that discussion, we

3603
02:00:15,261 --> 02:00:17,940
recognized that this would also

3604
02:00:17,940 --> 02:00:19,427
be an opportunity to resolve

3605
02:00:19,427 --> 02:00:21,827
some right-of-way segments and

3606
02:00:22,527 --> 02:00:24,794
easements that were never

3607
02:00:24,794 --> 02:00:26,160
transferred in the 2014 road

3608
02:00:26,160 --> 02:00:27,794
transfer agreement between

3609
02:00:27,794 --> 02:00:30,593
sarasota county and the city,

3610
02:00:30,593 --> 02:00:33,593
but were probably believed to

3611
02:00:35,494 --> 02:00:36,827
have been at the time.

3612
02:00:36,827 --> 02:00:38,560
This exhibit -- and I have one

3613
02:00:38,560 --> 02:00:40,527
more -- is showing the easements

3614
02:00:40,527 --> 02:00:42,526
and right-of-way that the city

3615
02:00:42,526 --> 02:00:45,159
would assume from the county.

3616
02:00:45,159 --> 02:00:48,270
And in here, we have deer town

3617
02:00:48,270 --> 02:00:50,427
gully, the unimproved beach

3618
02:00:52,861 --> 02:00:55,261
road, unimproved circle drive,

3619
02:00:56,260 --> 02:00:58,660
unimproved sunset drive, circle

3620
02:01:00,626 --> 02:01:02,600
drive north of short road, and

3621
02:01:02,600 --> 02:01:05,600
unimproved alleyway in the cross

3622
02:01:05,926 --> 02:01:07,926
wind landings easements.

3623
02:01:07,927 --> 02:01:10,760
In addition, the city would like

3624
02:01:10,760 --> 02:01:13,394
to take maintenance of this

3625
02:01:13,394 --> 02:01:13,594
easement portion of flamingo

3626
02:01:13,594 --> 02:01:14,726
ditch.

3627
02:01:14,726 --> 02:01:18,926
We would like to be able to

3628
02:01:19,560 --> 02:01:20,894
maintain that.

3629
02:01:20,894 --> 02:01:24,161
City staff have worked with the

3630
02:01:24,161 --> 02:01:25,894
city attorney's office to draft

3631
02:01:25,894 --> 02:01:27,328
an interlocal agreement for

3632
02:01:27,328 --> 02:01:29,494
consideration by the county

3633
02:01:29,494 --> 02:01:32,294
staff and then presentation to

3634
02:01:32,294 --> 02:01:33,270
city council and the county

3635
02:01:33,270 --> 02:01:35,270
commission.

3636
02:01:35,894 --> 02:01:37,193
This now, since we're looking at

3637
02:01:37,193 --> 02:01:38,427
road right-of-ways as well as

3638
02:01:38,427 --> 02:01:40,427
drainage right-of-ways and

3639
02:01:40,961 --> 02:01:42,960
easements, this is going to

3640
02:01:42,960 --> 02:01:45,759
require input from the county's

3641
02:01:45,759 --> 02:01:46,600
stormwater and transportation

3642
02:01:46,600 --> 02:01:48,600
departments.

3643
02:01:48,293 --> 02:01:49,727
They have notified us that the

3644
02:01:49,727 --> 02:01:51,927
earliest they might consider

3645
02:01:51,927 --> 02:01:56,127
this would be the end of this

3646
02:01:56,759 --> 02:01:58,759
calendar year.

3647
02:01:59,260 --> 02:02:02,260
Now, I'm sure you're also

3648
02:02:03,392 --> 02:02:06,392
familiar with the portion of

3649
02:02:07,827 --> 02:02:10,827
curry creek within sawgrass that

3650
02:02:10,926 --> 02:02:13,326
is maintained by sawgrass.

3651
02:02:15,660 --> 02:02:15,960
This has been about a ten-year

3652
02:02:15,960 --> 02:02:17,960
discussion.

3653
02:02:18,926 --> 02:02:22,526
And we did receive the recent

3654
02:02:23,126 --> 02:02:25,427
correspondence from the attorney

3655
02:02:25,427 --> 02:02:27,526
with sawgrass questioning the

3656
02:02:27,526 --> 02:02:28,259
maintenance responsibility of

3657
02:02:28,259 --> 02:02:30,259
that portion.

3658
02:02:31,427 --> 02:02:33,960
Our city attorney has responded

3659
02:02:33,960 --> 02:02:37,127
and there's been no change to

3660
02:02:37,127 --> 02:02:38,893
city staff's position that

3661
02:02:38,893 --> 02:02:41,293
sawgrass is the responsible

3662
02:02:47,559 --> 02:02:49,559
entity.

3663
02:02:51,259 --> 02:02:53,659
There are currently no

3664
02:02:53,793 --> 02:02:55,393
discussions with sawgrass about

3665
02:02:55,393 --> 02:02:57,793
the city potentially assuming

3666
02:02:58,126 --> 02:02:58,459
some maintenance o this

3667
02:02:58,459 --> 02:03:00,459
portion.

3668
02:03:01,727 --> 02:03:04,359
If council directs staff, we can

3669
02:03:04,359 --> 02:03:04,692
initiate some sort of

3670
02:03:04,692 --> 02:03:06,692
discussion.

3671
02:03:07,992 --> 02:03:09,559
I'd like to point out that

3672
02:03:09,559 --> 02:03:13,159
council MAY not hear requests to

3673
02:03:13,193 --> 02:03:14,125
assume maintenance of private

3674
02:03:14,125 --> 02:03:15,261
infrastructure very often.

3675
02:03:15,261 --> 02:03:17,426
But in the engineering

3676
02:03:17,426 --> 02:03:19,826
stormwater department, we get

3677
02:03:20,659 --> 02:03:20,859
these requests several times a

3678
02:03:20,859 --> 02:03:22,492
week.

3679
02:03:22,492 --> 02:03:25,660
We did analysis, and if you look

3680
02:03:25,660 --> 02:03:28,259
at the lane miles of roads

3681
02:03:28,259 --> 02:03:29,959
with the cit t city I

3682
02:03:29,959 --> 02:03:31,960
respsible for the maienance

3683
02:03:31,960 --> 02:03:32,727
of less analf the roads

3684
02:03:32,727 --> 02:03:34,727
within t city.

3685
02:03:35,893 --> 02:03:37,360
E rest are private roads,

3686
02:03:37,360 --> 02:03:38,775
d-maintain roads, county

3687
02:03:38,775 --> 02:03:40,775
ros, state roa.

3688
02:03:42,393 --> 02:03:44,593
And in addition, we don't have a

3689
02:03:44,593 --> 02:03:46,960
good number of the private

3690
02:03:46,960 --> 02:03:48,960
ormwater infrastructe, but

3691
02:03:49,993 --> 02:03:52,226
we believe alsohe city I

3692
02:03:52,226 --> 02:03:54,525
responsible for aboutalf or

3693
02:03:54,525 --> 02:03:56,576
less of e stormwar

3694
02:03:56,576 --> 02:03:58,576
infrasucture within city

3695
02:03:58,692 --> 02:04:00,692
limi.

3696
02:04:02,760 --> 02:04:02,792
If city sff were to start

3697
02:04:02,792 --> 02:04:04,792
mainining private

3698
02:04:04,893 --> 02:04:06,193
infrasucture, that would

3699
02:04:06,193 --> 02:04:08,259
generay require an incree in

3700
02:04:08,259 --> 02:04:10,226
our stormwer assessments.

3701
02:04:10,226 --> 02:04:13,226
So city staff's position, whe

3702
02:04:13,726 --> 02:04:15,626
're asked to maintainrivate

3703
02:04:15,626 --> 02:04:18,260
infrastrucre is not to

3704
02:04:19,260 --> 02:04:19,625
recommd approval b council I

3705
02:04:19,625 --> 02:04:21,460
neral.

3706
02:04:21,460 --> 02:04:23,860
However,his is aolicy

3707
02:04:24,693 --> 02:04:27,225
decisionhat is up to cncil.

3708
02:04:27,225 --> 02:04:29,160
Council directsity staff,

3709
02:04:29,160 --> 02:04:31,325
we can look into some sor of

3710
02:04:31,325 --> 02:04:33,325
intenance agreement with

3711
02:04:34,293 --> 02:04:36,293
sawgrass.

3712
02:04:36,293 --> 02:04:38,693
Mayor Pachota: does that

3713
02:04:38,825 --> 02:04:39,325
conclude your presentation?

3714
02:04:39,325 --> 02:04:40,259
>>Jon Kramer: yes.

3715
02:04:40,259 --> 02:04:42,659
>>Mayor Pachot we'll start

3716
02:04:43,559 --> 02:04:44,243
with MS. Fra.

3717
02:04:44,243 --> 02:04:46,590
>>Rachel Frank: ank you so

3718
02:04:46,590 --> 02:04:48,393
muchor refreing our memory

3719
02:04:48,393 --> 02:04:49,725
on countversusity vsus

3720
02:04:49,725 --> 02:04:51,590
privately matained.

3721
02:04:51,590 --> 02:04:52,658
First, quick aside I'm

3722
02:04:52,658 --> 02:04:54,358
thrilled that we asked the

3723
02:04:54,358 --> 02:04:55,893
county about potentily taking

3724
02:04:55,893 --> 02:04:58,176
over maintenancef what I wou

3725
02:04:58,176 --> 02:05:00,959
call -- what d you call I

3726
02:05:00,959 --> 02:05:03,359
golden bch unit 2asement,

3727
02:05:04,258 --> 02:05:05,126
north hibiscu poinsettia.

3728
02:05:05,126 --> 02:05:06,458
That would be aming to have

3729
02:05:06,458 --> 02:05:07,558
at within city control,

3730
02:05:07,558 --> 02:05:08,793
obviously, becau we are all

3731
02:05:08,793 --> 02:05:10,250
well aware of what that

3732
02:05:10,250 --> 02:05:11,743
neighborhood went tough wit

3733
02:05:11,743 --> 02:05:13,526
the storm two years ago.

3734
02:05:13,526 --> 02:05:15,859
So to have the accountability

3735
02:05:15,859 --> 02:05:18,293
th usnd not with the county,

3736
02:05:18,293 --> 02:05:20,493
think wou be a win for the

3737
02:05:20,493 --> 02:05:22,493
residentin that area.

3738
02:05:22,892 --> 02:05:24,793
That's wonderful

3739
02:05:24,793 --> 02:05:27,793
in regards tcurry cre, I

3740
02:05:27,827 --> 02:05:29,558
hear you loudnd clear that if

3741
02:05:29,558 --> 02:05:33,158
multip times a week the city

3742
02:05:33,593 --> 02:05:35,358
staff has to tell individuals,

3743
02:05:35,358 --> 02:05:37,250
no, we'r notoing to aume

3744
02:05:37,250 --> 02:05:39,250
publicnfrastructure, whether

3745
02:05:43,125 --> 02:05:45,926
that's roa, pipes, et cetera

3746
02:05:45,926 --> 02:05:47,926
wean't withoutramatically

3747
02:05:48,627 --> 02:05:50,627
creasing our budget.

3748
02:05:50,925 --> 02:05:52,393
So I would like a ltle bit

3749
02:05:52,393 --> 02:05:54,393
morelarity on -- youre the

3750
02:05:54,393 --> 02:05:56,393
engineernot us.

3751
02:05:57,192 --> 02:05:59,825
Is there any broader public

3752
02:05:59,825 --> 02:06:01,825
benefit to pottially

3753
02:06:02,225 --> 02:06:02,710
maintaining th sawgrass section

3754
02:06:02,710 --> 02:06:04,425
of cry creek?

3755
02:06:04,425 --> 02:06:06,591
Just talk to me a lite more in

3756
02:06:06,591 --> 02:06:07,476
deil abouthe wer flow in

3757
02:06:07,476 --> 02:06:08,526
that aa.

3758
02:06:08,526 --> 02:06:10,559
Obviously, the resents are

3759
02:06:10,559 --> 02:06:12,250
very concerned about flooding

3760
02:06:12,250 --> 02:06:13,991
after all that we've endured

3761
02:06:13,991 --> 02:06:14,225
over the lastwo years as a

3762
02:06:14,225 --> 02:06:15,259
city.

3763
02:06:15,259 --> 02:06:17,741
Can youalk to me a little bit

3764
02:06:17,741 --> 02:06:21,292
about the water flow in that

3765
02:06:21,292 --> 02:06:22,591
area and the dynamics of the

3766
02:06:22,591 --> 02:06:24,258
sawgrassrivately owned and

3767
02:06:24,258 --> 02:06:24,709
maintained poron?

3768
02:06:24,709 --> 02:06:26,691
>>Jon Krer: sure.

3769
02:06:26,691 --> 02:06:28,492
If weo bk to thexhibit,

3770
02:06:28,492 --> 02:06:31,492
you'll note that thisortion of

3771
02:06:31,558 --> 02:06:33,958
curry creek within sawgrasss

3772
02:06:34,192 --> 02:06:35,925
in the middle of the curry creek

3773
02:06:35,925 --> 02:06:37,925
conveyance

3774
02:06:38,360 --> 02:06:40,760
obviously, any obsuction in

3775
02:06:41,920 --> 02:06:43,758
that ption or any area

3776
02:06:43,758 --> 02:06:45,958
downream could cause potential

3777
02:06:45,958 --> 02:06:48,958
issues for residen outside of

3778
02:06:51,225 --> 02:06:53,225
sawgrass.

3779
02:06:53,958 --> 02:06:55,958
Weave had disssnshat

3780
02:06:57,260 --> 02:06:59,426
dungn appved stat of

3781
02:06:59,426 --> 02:07:01,441
emerncy, ifhere is som

3782
02:07:01,441 --> 02:07:04,441
obstruion in th areor any

3783
02:07:04,792 --> 02:07:06,920
othearea of rry creek o

3784
02:07:06,920 --> 02:07:07,192
blacurn canal,he city or

3785
02:07:07,192 --> 02:07:09,592
countyould likel do whater

3786
02:07:10,791 --> 02:07:12,791
itakes toesolve tha

3787
02:07:13,559 --> 02:07:14,625
emergencyituations, don't

3788
02:07:14,625 --> 02:07:15,826
think therwill b aone

3789
02:07:15,826 --> 02:07:16,626
questiing who iesponsible

3790
02:07:16,626 --> 02:07:18,626
for thaintenance

3791
02:07:18,659 --> 02:07:20,926
it wl reay be whoan get

3792
02:07:20,926 --> 02:07:22,580
there fst and resve tha

3793
02:07:22,580 --> 02:07:24,925
I ullike t point o tt

3794
02:07:24,925 --> 02:07:26,925
theortion ocuyreek

3795
02:07:27,958 --> 02:07:28,525
wiin sawgrs ino lge a

3796
02:07:28,525 --> 02:07:30,259
naral chne

3797
02:07:30,259 --> 02:07:32,659
eris a bdge there

3798
02:07:34,525 --> 02:07:37,391
ther a hous tha are

3799
02:07:37,391 --> 02:07:40,259
jant to cuy creek there

3800
02:07:40,259 --> 02:07:42,659
d iouncil were condeng

3801
02:07:43,724 --> 02:07:45,125
maintain ts poron sff

3802
02:07:45,125 --> 02:07:47,125
ulecmendhathis aa

3803
02:07:50,325 --> 02:07:52,759
be broug u to cit sndards

3804
02:07:52,759 --> 02:07:53,125
thatoune mntenan b

3805
02:07:53,125 --> 02:07:54,525
peormed er

3806
02:07:54,525 --> 02:07:56,458
er are se erosi sts

3807
02:07:56,458 --> 02:07:58,792
whh y thrte hom tha w

3808
02:07:58,792 --> 02:07:59,725
woul wt toee repre

3809
02:07:59,725 --> 02:08:01,725
fore wwod asse

3810
02:08:01,992 --> 02:08:02,924
matence ofha

3811
02:08:02,924 --> 02:08:04,192
>>Rach Fnk: vy helpf.

3812
02:08:04,192 --> 02:08:06,192
Thk u.

3813
02:08:07,258 --> 02:08:09,258
>>MayoPaota: m hard.

3814
02:08:09,359 --> 02:08:11,590
>>ck Howd:hanks, mor.

3815
02:08:11,590 --> 02:08:13,590
Thks, jon.

3816
02:08:13,459 --> 02:08:15,792
On the sam I gue,in

3817
02:08:15,792 --> 02:08:17,259
myolagueser tki

3818
02:08:17,259 --> 02:08:18,758
out, ihi the's

3819
02:08:18,758 --> 02:08:20,758
definily pubcenit.

3820
02:08:22,592 --> 02:08:24,580
And ve alws-t s my

3821
02:08:24,580 --> 02:08:26,158
tion, em le mons ago,

3822
02:08:26,158 --> 02:08:28,158
dectedndouil

3823
02:08:28,658 --> 02:08:30,658
animouy pporteirting

3824
02:08:31,125 --> 02:08:32,859
merant dolrs tgolear

3825
02:08:32,859 --> 02:08:34,859
ou mightavbeen posia

3826
02:08:36,124 --> 02:08:36,658
if m memy svese

3827
02:08:36,658 --> 02:08:38,658
coectly.

3828
02:08:40,725 --> 02:08:43,125
And ihi ttacl was

3829
02:08:44,592 --> 02:08:45,358
ucng on tt, is t

3830
02:08:45,358 --> 02:08:47,358
streamrorties.

3831
02:08:49,857 --> 02:08:52,257
Sof curryrer in t

3832
02:08:52,525 --> 02:08:54,125
sarass stier toecome

3833
02:08:54,125 --> 02:08:56,258
cled, tn a of t

3834
02:08:56,258 --> 02:08:58,258
prertiesottiallypstrea

3835
02:08:58,558 --> 02:08:59,158
fromhaould pential

3836
02:08:59,158 --> 02:09:00,725
fld.

3837
02:09:00,725 --> 02:09:01,580
So thinkhe is publi

3838
02:09:01,580 --> 02:09:02,925
benefi

3839
02:09:02,925 --> 02:09:05,325
and thk wn all

3840
02:09:06,580 --> 02:09:08,580
ppted wte uldoor

3841
02:09:10,457 --> 02:09:11,658
flingo dch I bie that

3842
02:09:11,658 --> 02:09:13,658
wasomeefitelyubc

3843
02:09:14,124 --> 02:09:15,358
net in ttreoo,

3844
02:09:15,358 --> 02:09:17,358
beus floodgas not

3845
02:09:18,258 --> 02:09:21,258
rericted jus tthe sid of

3846
02:09:22,325 --> 02:09:24,325
flamin dch

3847
02:09:25,857 --> 02:09:27,324
if the opini that --

3848
02:09:27,324 --> 02:09:29,124
mean, d't kno wn I c

3849
02:09:29,124 --> 02:09:30,458
ke mion, b se

3850
02:09:30,458 --> 02:09:33,457
pot, tnk tha my wish

3851
02:09:33,457 --> 02:09:35,457
wouldehawe wld bicly

3852
02:09:36,159 --> 02:09:38,725
-- e need torotect t cy,

3853
02:09:38,725 --> 02:09:38,925
bu it'seally alowss,

3854
02:09:38,925 --> 02:09:40,925
gh

3855
02:09:42,726 --> 02:09:44,458
wto make surhatha

3856
02:09:44,458 --> 02:09:45,992
ibary,ha outow a t

3857
02:09:45,992 --> 02:09:48,992
way he gulof mic ner

3858
02:09:49,192 --> 02:09:51,192
opslong.

3859
02:09:51,725 --> 02:09:52,858
Don'thi -- nd I'veeen

3860
02:09:52,858 --> 02:09:54,858
woinwith -- orking-

3861
02:09:55,580 --> 02:09:57,458
talkin withhe ridents and

3862
02:09:57,557 --> 02:09:58,758
. Carrnd oer f two

3863
02:09:58,758 --> 02:10:00,758
yes, I tnk

3864
02:10:01,258 --> 02:10:02,324
it flsike th I o of th

3865
02:10:02,324 --> 02:10:03,570
ggt cans we' kke dn

3866
02:10:03,570 --> 02:10:04,525
e road

3867
02:10:04,525 --> 02:10:06,124
I wod rll like see

3868
02:10:06,124 --> 02:10:07,457
ge resve

3869
02:10:07,457 --> 02:10:09,457
d don'thi thatt'

3870
02:10:10,358 --> 02:10:12,358
unasonab tmake sehat

3871
02:10:16,124 --> 02:10:18,524
t cmunity ofawgras is

3872
02:10:18,557 --> 02:10:19,958
lling flosome o yr

3873
02:10:19,958 --> 02:10:22,358
suestion wit thean, the

3874
02:10:23,341 --> 02:10:24,408
shing up the erosion, the

3875
02:10:24,408 --> 02:10:25,540
city's responsibility would be

3876
02:10:25,540 --> 02:10:27,900
simply make sure that the water

3877
02:10:27,900 --> 02:10:30,491
is still flowing, so that we

3878
02:10:30,491 --> 02:10:32,891
don't worry about upstream

3879
02:10:33,124 --> 02:10:33,325
flooding would certainly be my

3880
02:10:33,325 --> 02:10:35,108
wish.

3881
02:10:35,108 --> 02:10:37,108
Thank you, mayor.

3882
02:10:39,625 --> 02:10:42,250
>>Mayor Pachota: MR. Smith.

3883
02:10:43,591 --> 02:10:45,991
N Smh: t you m.

3884
02:10:45,991 --> 02:10:47,958
Thanyou fothatept.

3885
02:10:47,958 --> 02:10:49,491
Imeallxcitedbout I

3886
02:10:49,491 --> 02:10:51,891
anthk you for your

3887
02:10:52,325 --> 02:10:54,424
intation to uso give the

3888
02:10:54,424 --> 02:10:57,424
stdirection to tr to reach

3889
02:10:57,790 --> 02:10:59,957
an agree wit sawgrass to

3890
02:10:59,957 --> 02:11:02,357
take over the routine

3891
02:11:02,824 --> 02:11:04,824
maintenance he provisos

3892
02:11:04,925 --> 02:11:05,825
that y indicated.

3893
02:11:05,825 --> 02:11:08,108
I want to talk a little

3894
02:11:08,108 --> 02:11:10,991
about tha but als t

3895
02:11:10,991 --> 02:11:13,274
say r off, I'm so happy

3896
02:11:13,274 --> 02:11:15,425
hear what you said about

3897
02:11:15,425 --> 02:11:17,825
flamin ditch and theoad

3898
02:11:19,250 --> 02:11:20,758
trades as wi've been wanting to make

3899
02:11:20,758 --> 02:11:22,257
trade of maintenance of

3900
02:11:22,257 --> 02:11:23,791
creek for maintenan of

3901
02:11:23,791 --> 02:11:25,907
deer town gully for a whi

3902
02:11:25,907 --> 02:11:27,923
you'v been working it

3903
02:11:27,923 --> 02:11:29,923
r a while.

3904
02:11:30,675 --> 02:11:30,957
So it wo be less

3905
02:11:30,957 --> 02:11:32,957
con.

3906
02:11:36,708 --> 02:11:38,158
And the m you jus

3907
02:11:38,158 --> 02:11:40,158
cinches it.

3908
02:11:40,208 --> 02:11:42,190
Thatanity.

3909
02:11:42,190 --> 02:11:43,124
Ea littleained by

3910
02:11:43,124 --> 02:11:44,591
a differenty.

3911
02:11:44,591 --> 02:11:46,641
So t idea of let the county

3912
02:11:46,641 --> 02:11:48,523
hat creek we'll take this

3913
02:11:48,523 --> 02:11:49,991
creek is aderfulort.

3914
02:11:49,991 --> 02:11:51,408
You saye might be able to

3915
02:11:51,408 --> 02:11:54,324
it off by the end o the year,

3916
02:11:54,324 --> 02:11:56,324
fantastic.

3917
02:11:57,541 --> 02:11:59,524
But ien I ask a just

3918
02:11:59,524 --> 02:12:01,441
th cur creek update,t

3919
02:12:01,441 --> 02:12:04,441
we're als making pro there

3920
02:12:04,441 --> 02:12:05,823
flamingo ditch.I don't know th the flamingo

3921
02:12:05,823 --> 02:12:06,640
ditcghbors were aware

3922
02:12:06,640 --> 02:12:08,724
that you were tryio

3923
02:12:08,724 --> 02:12:09,609
ke that effort take that

3924
02:12:09,609 --> 02:12:11,609
over.

3925
02:12:13,224 --> 02:12:15,624
I know they complainede

3926
02:12:19,723 --> 02:12:21,691
city, why iss culvert underthe road clogg up? We

3927
02:12:21,691 --> 02:12:21,891
wellon't mai that

3928
02:12:21,891 --> 02:12:23,191
area.

3929
02:12:23,191 --> 02:12:23,941
And they shouldn't hav to deal

3930
02:12:23,941 --> 02:12:25,558
with that.

3931
02:12:25,558 --> 02:12:26,974
Theye in they.

3932
02:12:26,974 --> 02:12:27,874
They should he city is

3933
02:12:27,874 --> 02:12:29,224
maintathe cs in that

3934
02:12:29,224 --> 02:12:30,408
area.

3935
02:12:30,408 --> 02:12:31,658
Ey have been frustrated

3936
02:12:31,658 --> 02:12:33,507
thatborhood tha we can

3937
02:12:33,507 --> 02:12:34,490
only do h rightow, and

3938
02:12:34,490 --> 02:12:38,900
we put some of things into

3939
02:12:38,241 --> 02:12:39,691
the planor27, some for '29,

3940
02:12:39,691 --> 02:12:41,691
some for '31.

3941
02:12:41,741 --> 02:12:43,407
Sounds like byhe end ofhe

3942
02:12:43,407 --> 02:12:45,323
ye that could be a little

3943
02:12:45,323 --> 02:12:47,723
piece that's of very

3944
02:12:51,910 --> 02:12:53,910
mplicated situation.I love all of that.

3945
02:12:53,910 --> 02:12:54,591
I do want t say this.

3946
02:12:54,591 --> 02:12:56,591
E presentation-I apologize

3947
02:12:59,323 --> 02:13:02,107
to MR. C that we made himtake twoive-minute public

3948
02:13:02,107 --> 02:13:03,691
speakingtunities to give

3949
02:13:03,691 --> 02:13:06,570
us a presentation that w maybe

3950
02:13:06,570 --> 02:13:07,224
seven or eig minutes long.

3951
02:13:07,224 --> 02:13:08,657
I ize because I could h

3952
02:13:08,657 --> 02:13:10,390
made a motion give

3953
02:13:10,390 --> 02:13:12,730
more time, finish it in

3954
02:13:12,730 --> 02:13:13,724
his first anceere.

3955
02:13:13,724 --> 02:13:16,224
In we sent him off.

3956
02:13:16,224 --> 02:13:18,691
But he was speaking, he doe

3957
02:13:18,691 --> 02:13:20,691
live sawgrass.

3958
02:13:23,157 --> 02:13:26,374
Was speaking on behalf organization that represents

3959
02:13:26,374 --> 02:13:26,691
unity associations a

3960
02:13:26,691 --> 02:13:28,240
ho

3961
02:13:28,240 --> 02:13:28,657
he waspeaking for theentral

3962
02:13:28,657 --> 02:13:30,124
nice coalition.

3963
02:13:30,124 --> 02:13:32,124
Got to tellnk

3964
02:13:32,256 --> 02:13:33,125
that'st imp civic

3965
02:13:33,125 --> 02:13:35,525
organization in thity to

3966
02:13:39,456 --> 02:13:41,856
lio.It's enormous coali

3967
02:13:41,974 --> 02:13:45,800
e was here to pre on

3968
02:13:45,800 --> 02:13:46,157
bef rea t whole

3969
02:13:46,157 --> 02:13:48,156
regit we need do

3970
02:13:48,156 --> 02:13:49,307
something abory creek and

3971
02:13:49,307 --> 02:13:50,573
the city needs to gete

3972
02:13:50,573 --> 02:13:52,570
business of maintaining

3973
02:13:52,570 --> 02:13:53,910
portio that goesough

3974
02:13:53,910 --> 02:13:55,910
wgrass.

3975
02:13:55,841 --> 02:13:58,256
Of cou he educated u b

3976
02:13:58,256 --> 02:14:00,256
alganey, the

3977
02:14:00,575 --> 02:14:03,575
rney for saw I bel

3978
02:14:03,691 --> 02:14:06,910
that'sct, ed us a

3979
02:14:08,290 --> 02:14:10,570
our cityney took aong

3980
02:14:10,570 --> 02:14:11,806
position in contrast t m

3981
02:14:11,806 --> 02:14:13,692
morganey, said, no, we

3982
02:14:13,692 --> 02:14:15,692
don't anyigation,

3983
02:14:16,230 --> 02:14:16,457
unless wh to have that

3984
02:14:16,457 --> 02:14:17,790
obligati

3985
02:14:17,790 --> 02:14:19,790
myent should wish

3986
02:14:20,907 --> 02:14:22,907
that obligation.

3987
02:14:23,974 --> 02:14:26,974
I like ben argument, I

3988
02:14:28,307 --> 02:14:29,457
evengree wm, if he wentfor artision, MAY get a

3989
02:14:29,457 --> 02:14:31,457
claratory judgmenthat

3990
02:14:32,524 --> 02:14:33,623
maintaining thats

3991
02:14:33,623 --> 02:14:35,623
responsibili

3992
02:14:36,230 --> 02:14:37,840
he also told them costhem

3993
02:14:37,840 --> 02:14:39,890
$75,00 bring t suit to

3994
02:14:39,890 --> 02:14:41,890
try it.

3995
02:14:43,700 --> 02:14:44,240
We shouldn't be requiring our

3996
02:14:44,240 --> 02:14:46,424
neighb and ouridents to

3997
02:14:47,923 --> 02:14:52,123
sue us get what seems lik a

3998
02:14:54,424 --> 02:14:55,989
civic action that we w want.We point to, I'm sure theity

3999
02:14:55,989 --> 02:14:58,174
rney correctly point t

4000
02:14:58,174 --> 02:15:00,174
old document seem

4001
02:15:00,224 --> 02:15:02,224
te, although dispute

4002
02:15:04,790 --> 02:15:08,900
it weon't have to beresponsible for that.

4003
02:15:08,900 --> 02:15:12,506
Tells us we should.Because as theirorney points

4004
02:15:12,506 --> 02:15:14,900
oure are 42 bodiesfwater grass.

4005
02:15:14,900 --> 02:15:16,490
Ey are responsiblen their

4006
02:15:17,789 --> 02:15:19,156
mind for 40 of them.

4007
02:15:19,156 --> 02:15:21,139
Only ones they say they are not

4008
02:15:21,139 --> 02:15:22,389
sponsible for islackburn

4009
02:15:22,389 --> 02:15:24,389
nal curryek.

4010
02:15:24,639 --> 02:15:27,639
The reaso is,se bodf

4011
02:15:29,289 --> 02:15:31,290
waart o of sawgrass,

4012
02:15:31,290 --> 02:15:33,390
tracross sawgrass and then

4013
02:15:33,390 --> 02:15:36,390
through all kinds o other

4014
02:15:37,206 --> 02:15:38,506
erties to dump into the

4015
02:15:38,506 --> 02:15:40,789
that makes I a very

4016
02:15:40,789 --> 02:15:42,789
diff son than

4017
02:15:44,560 --> 02:15:47,560
drainage pon on their pro

4018
02:15:47,640 --> 02:15:50,640
they I u those t

4019
02:15:50,723 --> 02:15:52,658
crs part o our stormwater

4020
02:15:52,658 --> 02:15:54,106
system.

4021
02:15:54,106 --> 02:15:56,123
And to say, we don't have

4022
02:15:56,123 --> 02:15:58,589
to maintain tha piece bec

4023
02:15:58,589 --> 02:16:01,589
it's onour property sort of

4024
02:16:01,757 --> 02:16:03,639
unique pnhat we're

4025
02:16:03,639 --> 02:16:06,390
ta because theseies of

4026
02:16:07,489 --> 02:16:08,439
teron't usually

4027
02:16:08,439 --> 02:16:10,230
throug community.

4028
02:16:10,230 --> 02:16:10,257
Th usually like on the

4029
02:16:10,257 --> 02:16:12,157
border.

4030
02:16:12,157 --> 02:16:13,123
Are right the border of

4031
02:16:13,123 --> 02:16:15,123
bay indi

4032
02:16:15,289 --> 02:16:17,790
not in bay indies on

4033
02:16:17,790 --> 02:16:20,107
th border, that type of thing

4034
02:16:20,107 --> 02:16:20,922
this has been a long-standing

4035
02:16:20,922 --> 02:16:22,922
oblem.

4036
02:16:23,489 --> 02:16:25,489
Many, ma years.

4037
02:16:26,523 --> 02:16:28,690
And even if we had good

4038
02:16:28,690 --> 02:16:31,900
argument n toain it

4039
02:16:31,323 --> 02:16:32,706
years ago, theituation has

4040
02:16:32,706 --> 02:16:35,389
changed because w approve all

4041
02:16:35,389 --> 02:16:37,789
ki ofopment along aubur

4042
02:16:38,623 --> 02:16:39,607
, both sidesf fox lea

4043
02:16:39,607 --> 02:16:40,757
rms.

4044
02:16:40,757 --> 02:16:42,490
Approved all development

4045
02:16:42,490 --> 02:16:44,889
up b hospital u there on

4046
02:16:44,889 --> 02:16:45,789
curry lanehat's created

4047
02:16:45,789 --> 02:16:48,123
ng in that area.

4048
02:16:48,123 --> 02:16:50,123
Situations more sev

4049
02:16:52,256 --> 02:16:59,423
than it' ever b I terms othe damage of that creek backi

4050
02:16:59,423 --> 02:17:03,156
could do t pies.So ive it's incumbent

4051
02:17:03,156 --> 02:17:03,523
toe an agreementh

4052
02:17:03,523 --> 02:17:05,523
sawgrass.

4053
02:17:06,589 --> 02:17:08,589
Hopefulhat c is

4054
02:17:08,923 --> 02:17:11,273
g to direct the staff a

4055
02:17:11,273 --> 02:17:13,673
your invitation, to wth

4056
02:17:13,723 --> 02:17:16,123
sa on angreement take

4057
02:17:16,589 --> 02:17:16,873
over rountenancef

4058
02:17:16,873 --> 02:17:18,873
rry creek.

4059
02:17:21,323 --> 02:17:22,622
I wa thank again steve carr

4060
02:17:22,622 --> 02:17:24,955
r his representatio us,

4061
02:17:24,955 --> 02:17:25,622
ng to educate u on it and

4062
02:17:25,622 --> 02:17:27,356
the problem.

4063
02:17:27,356 --> 02:17:28,455
And d addre it as a

4064
02:17:28,455 --> 02:17:29,500
il.

4065
02:17:29,500 --> 02:17:31,500
So thank.

4066
02:17:32,939 --> 02:17:33,923
>>Pachota:r.Ngelke.

4067
02:17:33,923 --> 02:17:35,923
>>Kegelke: thank you.

4068
02:17:36,890 --> 02:17:38,456
Cue, smith and

4069
02:17:38,456 --> 02:17:40,456
agree fundaly on

4070
02:17:40,673 --> 02:17:41,890
just a everythin was

4071
02:17:41,890 --> 02:17:43,890
presen

4072
02:17:43,706 --> 02:17:43,856
I'm going a lot

4073
02:17:43,856 --> 02:17:45,856
words.

4074
02:17:46,723 --> 02:17:49,123
Steve, thaor your wor

4075
02:17:50,523 --> 02:17:52,256
d secondly, with thern

4076
02:17:52,256 --> 02:17:54,423
gully, it'st of the city.

4077
02:17:54,423 --> 02:17:57,230
And I don't t that it sh

4078
02:17:57,230 --> 02:17:59,189
be diffeted between county

4079
02:17:59,189 --> 02:18:00,900
and city, especia something

4080
02:18:00,900 --> 02:18:01,789
like that, that's clearly wit

4081
02:18:01,789 --> 02:18:03,789
the its.

4082
02:18:04,730 --> 02:18:07,289
Which leads u to curry creek,

4083
02:18:07,289 --> 02:18:08,390
and not just saw buthe

4084
02:18:08,390 --> 02:18:10,390
ole area.

4085
02:18:10,489 --> 02:18:12,489
Do understands

4086
02:18:12,690 --> 02:18:14,456
position regar cleaning

4087
02:18:14,456 --> 02:18:16,205
culverts that typef thi

4088
02:18:16,205 --> 02:18:17,823
but to me, this little bit

4089
02:18:17,823 --> 02:18:19,789
bigger tha jus saw

4090
02:18:19,789 --> 02:18:20,723
it rea is fro the beginning

4091
02:18:20,723 --> 02:18:22,723
end.

4092
02:18:23,606 --> 02:18:25,889
Love the idea where we can

4093
02:18:25,889 --> 02:18:27,656
make its seamless as pos

4094
02:18:27,656 --> 02:18:30,823
ng some stuff to the county

4095
02:18:30,823 --> 02:18:31,123
d taking some stuffe

4096
02:18:31,123 --> 02:18:33,890
city.

4097
02:18:33,890 --> 02:18:34,289
W, that being said, I very,

4098
02:18:34,289 --> 02:18:35,656
very concerned a any

4099
02:18:35,656 --> 02:18:37,388
pol liabilities that the

4100
02:18:37,388 --> 02:18:39,755
city might picking upthe

4101
02:18:39,755 --> 02:18:41,755
event of, hey,

4102
02:18:43,389 --> 02:18:44,790
someand it's notone

4103
02:18:44,790 --> 02:18:46,790
perfectltandards have

4104
02:18:48,273 --> 02:18:49,323
ged or, whatever, we have

4105
02:18:49,323 --> 02:18:51,323
the responsibili paying

4106
02:18:53,355 --> 02:18:54,805
r a lot of wet houses.I am very, concerned wit

4107
02:18:54,805 --> 02:18:56,805
that

4108
02:18:57,689 --> 02:19:00,600
but do understand tha the

4109
02:19:00,600 --> 02:19:01,457
need to look at this as jus

4110
02:19:01,457 --> 02:19:04,457
being sawg but s to

4111
02:19:07,456 --> 02:19:09,423
finish o whole waterwasawgrass in the central venice

4112
02:19:09,423 --> 02:19:10,523
ion, they have don lot

4113
02:19:10,523 --> 02:19:11,823
of work this.

4114
02:19:11,823 --> 02:19:13,323
Ow they has don lot

4115
02:19:13,323 --> 02:19:14,589
w on this thing.

4116
02:19:14,589 --> 02:19:17,340
What I would l to do is bring

4117
02:19:17,340 --> 02:19:18,323
tion,be a little

4118
02:19:18,323 --> 02:19:19,623
premfor a motion in terms

4119
02:19:19,623 --> 02:19:22,230
ur discu but an

4120
02:19:22,688 --> 02:19:25,880
that w eally dir

4121
02:19:26,756 --> 02:19:27,622
city staff to e

4122
02:19:27,622 --> 02:19:29,622
central ven coaliti

4123
02:19:30,189 --> 02:19:32,589
becaus just a sawgrass

4124
02:19:33,923 --> 02:19:35,889
e, and withass, maybe

4125
02:19:35,889 --> 02:19:38,289
rkinge wit cen venice

4126
02:19:38,424 --> 02:19:40,339
coalition to comeo an

4127
02:19:40,339 --> 02:19:42,506
agt onwe can and

4128
02:19:42,506 --> 02:19:44,506
ot do.

4129
02:19:46,688 --> 02:19:48,188
Mr, I sure if it's

4130
02:19:48,188 --> 02:19:49,880
time for a motion.

4131
02:19:49,880 --> 02:19:50,223
N Smith: and a second.

4132
02:19:50,223 --> 02:19:50,555
Mayor Pachota: not t for

4133
02:19:50,555 --> 02:19:51,522
ei

4134
02:19:51,522 --> 02:19:53,821
still have t peoplee

4135
02:19:53,821 --> 02:19:55,589
list t talk.

4136
02:19:55,589 --> 02:19:56,339
Ce mayor.

4137
02:19:56,339 --> 02:19:58,356
Vice Mayor Boldt: thou.

4138
02:19:58,356 --> 02:19:59,806
T torolong this, but my

4139
02:19:59,806 --> 02:20:02,122
memory is as goo as it used

4140
02:20:02,122 --> 02:20:02,689
to so mayd a little

4141
02:20:02,689 --> 02:20:04,538
help

4142
02:20:04,538 --> 02:20:07,456
iteems to m the last

4143
02:20:07,456 --> 02:20:09,856
of years, we worki

4144
02:20:11,456 --> 02:20:14,456
with sawtrying to do a

4145
02:20:14,622 --> 02:20:16,556
rezoning.

4146
02:20:16,556 --> 02:20:20,156
The history of sawgrass, if yo

4147
02:20:20,172 --> 02:20:21,390
go back aittle bit, m memoryagain is nhat great, it

4148
02:20:21,390 --> 02:20:22,189
s county.

4149
02:20:22,189 --> 02:20:24,189
It was

4150
02:20:24,356 --> 02:20:25,406
it wasy, it was c

4151
02:20:25,406 --> 02:20:28,406
there was t back forth

4152
02:20:28,489 --> 02:20:29,672
thhink that went o

4153
02:20:29,672 --> 02:20:30,856
tely, we to

4154
02:20:30,856 --> 02:20:33,606
compromi I seem to r

4155
02:20:33,606 --> 02:20:34,871
on what weanted to versus

4156
02:20:34,871 --> 02:20:36,756
what we ultim

4157
02:20:36,756 --> 02:20:39,788
but what I'ming to say is I

4158
02:20:39,788 --> 02:20:41,988
feel like cty of

4159
02:20:41,988 --> 02:20:43,856
rass got stuck inhe middle

4160
02:20:43,856 --> 02:20:45,856
this whing.

4161
02:20:47,422 --> 02:20:49,955
So there I of fingepointing goingo who

4162
02:20:49,955 --> 02:20:51,323
should b taking care of

4163
02:20:51,323 --> 02:20:53,140
the easies to resol all

4164
02:20:53,140 --> 02:20:54,560
of that is to, hey,t's

4165
02:20:54,560 --> 02:20:56,220
yourem.

4166
02:20:56,220 --> 02:20:58,157
Eems to be wherere.

4167
02:20:58,157 --> 02:20:59,206
I completelee wit m

4168
02:20:59,206 --> 02:21:01,622
colleagues up h that a

4169
02:21:01,622 --> 02:21:04,220
saying it flows through

4170
02:21:04,756 --> 02:21:06,422
ity, it affects other

4171
02:21:06,422 --> 02:21:08,822
areas stormwater within the

4172
02:21:09,138 --> 02:21:10,871
city, we don't take care

4173
02:21:10,871 --> 02:21:12,204
it, st toe degree, I

4174
02:21:12,204 --> 02:21:13,871
we delp tre of it,

4175
02:21:13,871 --> 02:21:15,672
we can bigger probl than

4176
02:21:15,672 --> 02:21:17,672
werted out with.

4177
02:21:21,388 --> 02:21:24,255
So I am an advocate fortartingsome negotiations with regard to

4178
02:21:24,255 --> 02:21:27,255
t separatehis and h to

4179
02:21:28,605 --> 02:21:29,971
putomenfluence on oeor the other so that 't

4180
02:21:29,971 --> 02:21:30,222
have t worut this

4181
02:21:30,222 --> 02:21:31,639
fo

4182
02:21:31,639 --> 02:21:33,639
thank you.

4183
02:21:35,689 --> 02:21:36,872
>>Mayor Pachota:eed.

4184
02:21:36,872 --> 02:21:38,639
>>Lloyd thank you.

4185
02:21:38,639 --> 02:21:39,321
Jold you p the map

4186
02:21:39,321 --> 02:21:41,721
ag for me, pleas

4187
02:21:42,104 --> 02:21:44,389
I have questions about the map.

4188
02:21:44,389 --> 02:21:46,254
>>Jon Kramer: the overall one.

4189
02:21:46,254 --> 02:21:47,622
>>Lloyd Weed: there legendons.

4190
02:21:47,622 --> 02:21:48,139
The yellowection isrently

4191
02:21:48,139 --> 02:21:49,988
maintainedhe city of

4192
02:21:49,988 --> 02:21:51,721
veis that correct?

4193
02:21:51,721 --> 02:21:53,622
Jon Kramer: yellow green.

4194
02:21:53,622 --> 02:21:53,889
Lloyd Weed: yellow green.

4195
02:21:53,889 --> 02:21:54,789
Okay.

4196
02:21:54,789 --> 02:21:57,189
We are looking fhe

4197
02:21:58,855 --> 02:22:00,390
unty toake over themaintenance of yellow andn?

4198
02:22:00,390 --> 02:22:01,221
>>Jon Kramrrect.

4199
02:22:01,221 --> 02:22:03,221
D Weed: okay.

4200
02:22:04,455 --> 02:22:05,822
also, the words

4201
02:22:05,822 --> 02:22:07,921
curry creek canal, ts gray

4202
02:22:07,921 --> 02:22:11,889
and black.Who has responsib for the

4203
02:22:11,889 --> 02:22:12,890
grayhe blarea, in t

4204
02:22:12,890 --> 02:22:13,789
area?

4205
02:22:13,789 --> 02:22:16,421
Jon Kramer: there I a legend

4206
02:22:16,421 --> 02:22:17,254
goes with this that

4207
02:22:17,254 --> 02:22:20,254
rtunately I did not print

4208
02:22:20,755 --> 02:22:22,322
he city.

4209
02:22:22,322 --> 02:22:22,521
Lloyd Weed: the city.

4210
02:22:22,521 --> 02:22:24,521
Okay.

4211
02:22:26,621 --> 02:22:28,621
Ghter]

4212
02:22:33,522 --> 02:22:35,155
My concern I have many,

4213
02:22:35,155 --> 02:22:37,155
maifferentroup wking on

4214
02:22:38,621 --> 02:22:40,550
differenarts of cuy creek

4215
02:22:40,550 --> 02:22:42,550
and blaburn canal.

4216
02:22:42,638 --> 02:22:43,821
'reoong a tnsfeing

4217
02:22:43,821 --> 02:22:45,821
e mntenan respoibilies

4218
02:22:46,821 --> 02:22:48,923
tohe gre and the yellow to

4219
02:22:48,923 --> 02:22:50,271
the county in ehae r us

4220
02:22:50,271 --> 02:22:51,722
ki or dr townul,

4221
02:22:51,722 --> 02:22:52,771
which ave no pblemh.

4222
02:22:52,771 --> 02:22:56,371
But at the sa tim we'

4223
02:22:56,555 --> 02:22:58,555
log aturer cplatin

4224
02:23:00,155 --> 02:23:00,888
byaking,heit vic

4225
02:23:00,888 --> 02:23:02,555
tangr eec tt

4226
02:23:02,555 --> 02:23:05,472
go tou cry cek,hich

4227
02:23:05,472 --> 02:23:06,505
us lehain one

4228
02:23:06,505 --> 02:23:08,905
patchwork quilt for another.

4229
02:23:10,605 --> 02:23:11,705
I don't know if there's any

4230
02:23:11,705 --> 02:23:14,105
possibility of negotiating with

4231
02:23:15,355 --> 02:23:16,988
the county to take over the

4232
02:23:16,988 --> 02:23:19,388
sawgrass portions, that they

4233
02:23:19,504 --> 02:23:20,338
have that entire run under their

4234
02:23:20,338 --> 02:23:21,804
responsibility rather than just

4235
02:23:21,804 --> 02:23:24,204
moving this patchwork quilt

4236
02:23:24,638 --> 02:23:26,237
around.

4237
02:23:26,237 --> 02:23:28,654
>>Jon Kramer: if council directs

4238
02:23:28,654 --> 02:23:30,538
staff to look into maintaining

4239
02:23:30,538 --> 02:23:33,380
this portion, city staff would

4240
02:23:33,380 --> 02:23:34,905
likely talk to county staff

4241
02:23:34,905 --> 02:23:36,888
about having the county perform

4242
02:23:36,888 --> 02:23:39,888
the maintenance in that portion

4243
02:23:40,938 --> 02:23:43,505
and city MAY fund that

4244
02:23:43,505 --> 02:23:45,505
maintenance.

4245
02:23:46,571 --> 02:23:49,572
As just a point of reference,

4246
02:23:49,572 --> 02:23:52,572
right now, our last maintenance

4247
02:23:52,988 --> 02:23:55,388
contract, city paid about $1.55

4248
02:23:56,421 --> 02:23:58,288
per linear foot to maintain the

4249
02:23:58,288 --> 02:24:01,238
banks of the curry creek

4250
02:24:01,238 --> 02:24:03,380
portions we're responsible for.

4251
02:24:03,380 --> 02:24:04,905
If council would like us to look

4252
02:24:04,905 --> 02:24:07,221
into maintaining that, we would

4253
02:24:07,221 --> 02:24:10,821
likely ask the county to perform

4254
02:24:13,688 --> 02:24:14,705
the maintenance and fund that.

4255
02:24:14,705 --> 02:24:17,370
>>Lloyd Weed: thank you for

4256
02:24:17,370 --> 02:24:18,271
clarifying.

4257
02:24:18,271 --> 02:24:20,710
>>Mayor Pachota: all right.

4258
02:24:20,710 --> 02:24:22,170
I'm last on the list and then

4259
02:24:22,170 --> 02:24:22,621
we'll go back around for round

4260
02:24:22,621 --> 02:24:24,438
two.

4261
02:24:24,438 --> 02:24:26,305
My biggest concern is just like

4262
02:24:26,305 --> 02:24:29,305
everything else that's come our

4263
02:24:32,820 --> 02:24:34,687
way, flamingo ditch, curry lane,

4264
02:24:34,687 --> 02:24:36,471
gene green road, all the

4265
02:24:36,471 --> 02:24:37,321
different parcels, there's a

4266
02:24:37,321 --> 02:24:38,788
funding component.

4267
02:24:38,788 --> 02:24:41,755
Millions of dollars to do these

4268
02:24:41,755 --> 02:24:42,755
things, and when the development

4269
02:24:42,755 --> 02:24:44,320
begins, they have the

4270
02:24:44,320 --> 02:24:46,421
opportunity to bring it up to

4271
02:24:46,421 --> 02:24:48,288
standard and present it to us as

4272
02:24:48,288 --> 02:24:50,737
us taking that over and the city

4273
02:24:50,737 --> 02:24:51,870
could take over if wanted to.

4274
02:24:51,870 --> 02:24:53,604
Millions of dollars need to be

4275
02:24:53,604 --> 02:24:55,921
spent and curry lane is best

4276
02:24:55,921 --> 02:24:57,405
example, to bring it up to

4277
02:24:57,405 --> 02:24:59,380
standard before we take it over.

4278
02:24:59,380 --> 02:24:59,371
I pause here with all this

4279
02:24:59,371 --> 02:25:00,655
discussion.

4280
02:25:00,655 --> 02:25:02,755
Yes, of course, I'd love for us

4281
02:25:02,755 --> 02:25:03,688
to maintain it and make sure it

4282
02:25:03,688 --> 02:25:05,871
gets done, but at the same time,

4283
02:25:05,871 --> 02:25:07,971
I would need to see the costs

4284
02:25:07,971 --> 02:25:10,371
associated with us being

4285
02:25:10,388 --> 02:25:12,504
responsible, plus I vaguely

4286
02:25:12,504 --> 02:25:13,970
remember with the flamingo ditch

4287
02:25:13,970 --> 02:25:15,754
discussions that anytime we take

4288
02:25:15,754 --> 02:25:16,704
something over or take over the

4289
02:25:16,704 --> 02:25:18,388
responsibility of the

4290
02:25:18,388 --> 02:25:20,788
maintenance, we then become

4291
02:25:20,888 --> 02:25:22,837
liable for any of the issues

4292
02:25:22,837 --> 02:25:23,604
that develop later on or bank

4293
02:25:23,604 --> 02:25:24,804
improvements or whatever it

4294
02:25:24,804 --> 02:25:26,804
might be.

4295
02:25:26,870 --> 02:25:28,304
So there is a lot of caution in

4296
02:25:28,304 --> 02:25:29,521
my mind when we start talking

4297
02:25:29,521 --> 02:25:30,521
about taking these things over,

4298
02:25:30,521 --> 02:25:32,570
that the developer could have

4299
02:25:32,570 --> 02:25:34,738
done that when they built this

4300
02:25:34,738 --> 02:25:36,604
in the first place and chose not

4301
02:25:36,604 --> 02:25:36,771
to do it for whatever the reason

4302
02:25:36,771 --> 02:25:38,771
was.

4303
02:25:38,938 --> 02:25:42,438
Now we'll have to take that on

4304
02:25:42,438 --> 02:25:44,454
as a citywide taxpayer base.

4305
02:25:44,454 --> 02:25:46,870
I'm not saying I'm against it.

4306
02:25:46,870 --> 02:25:47,254
I'm saying I would need to see

4307
02:25:47,254 --> 02:25:48,887
all of the financials involved

4308
02:25:48,887 --> 02:25:50,421
and all of the legal

4309
02:25:50,421 --> 02:25:51,604
ramifications involved in us

4310
02:25:51,604 --> 02:25:53,921
taking responsibility of that.

4311
02:25:53,921 --> 02:25:57,237
So when we do get to that point,

4312
02:25:57,237 --> 02:25:58,521
I would love for those questions

4313
02:25:58,521 --> 02:26:01,203
to be answered as we're moving

4314
02:26:01,203 --> 02:26:02,838
forward with this discussion.

4315
02:26:02,838 --> 02:26:05,454
MS. Frank, you're next and then

4316
02:26:05,454 --> 02:26:06,454
MR. Engelke.

4317
02:26:06,454 --> 02:26:07,703
>>Rachel Frank: yes, to my

4318
02:26:07,703 --> 02:26:09,321
colleague, MR. Weed's question,

4319
02:26:09,321 --> 02:26:10,587
I pulled up the e-mail from MR.

4320
02:26:10,587 --> 02:26:12,120
Carr and it stated that the

4321
02:26:12,120 --> 02:26:14,504
black line is sarata county

4322
02:26:14,504 --> 02:26:16,137
owned d maiained, andhe

4323
02:26:16,137 --> 02:26:17,454
ay portions wer privately

4324
02:26:17,454 --> 02:26:19,170
neand mntaid.

4325
02:26:19,170 --> 02:26:19,887
Sohe is lile b of

4326
02:26:19,887 --> 02:26:21,887
ffercehe

4327
02:26:23,787 --> 02:26:25,787
t molle, MAY

4328
02:26:27,537 --> 02:26:29,937
pot about the economic

4329
02:26:33,210 --> 02:26:33,620
realities associated with new

4330
02:26:33,620 --> 02:26:35,272
matenance respsibilities,

4331
02:26:35,272 --> 02:26:36,504
that was why I questioned our

4332
02:26:36,504 --> 02:26:38,354
fina director about the

4333
02:26:38,354 --> 02:26:40,420
overall state of our stormwater

4334
02:26:40,420 --> 02:26:42,887
nd which at rs ge

4335
02:26:42,887 --> 02:26:45,154
appes e to ben very

4336
02:26:45,154 --> 02:26:46,687
healthy on, which would

4337
02:26:46,687 --> 02:26:48,221
warrat least a

4338
02:26:48,221 --> 02:26:50,254
igation to the ongoing

4339
02:26:50,254 --> 02:26:52,254
nuaintenanceost for this

4340
02:26:54,353 --> 02:26:55,855
sawgraoroncurryreek.For tnsrency, if o

4341
02:26:55,855 --> 02:26:57,920
ormwater f w dtrsed

4342
02:26:57,920 --> 02:26:59,353
andtouse iia

4343
02:26:59,353 --> 02:27:01,421
ineas to our swar fee

4344
02:27:01,421 --> 02:27:03,254
ate pass along to o full

4345
02:27:03,254 --> 02:27:04,120
tax base, I would hav more

4346
02:27:04,120 --> 02:27:06,120
coern.

4347
02:27:06,522 --> 02:27:08,370
Bu I appears at firstoo we

4348
02:27:08,370 --> 02:27:10,120
ght be I a healtla a

4349
02:27:10,120 --> 02:27:12,120
have theacy.

4350
02:27:13,687 --> 02:27:15,187
ouoi, I wraurer

4351
02:27:15,187 --> 02:27:16,353
arassociat wh iul

4352
02:27:16,353 --> 02:27:17,921
spency o that.

4353
02:27:17,921 --> 02:27:19,537
>>Mayor chamr engel

4354
02:27:19,537 --> 02:27:21,537
Ken Engelkha you.

4355
02:27:22,453 --> 02:27:23,536
You mon aritrt,

4356
02:27:23,536 --> 02:27:25,421
5 r leaoo

4357
02:27:25,421 --> 02:27:27,821
atould t tnslate tf

4358
02:27:28,487 --> 02:27:29,120
we we tpick up that

4359
02:27:29,120 --> 02:27:31,520
spsibility t area tt

4360
02:27:34,536 --> 02:27:36,536
we tking abo?

4361
02:27:36,987 --> 02:27:37,621
55,000, 00

4362
02:27:37,621 --> 02:27:39,487
n amer: roin

4363
02:27:39,487 --> 02:27:41,487
manae of thatoron

4364
02:27:43,210 --> 02:27:43,986
wod be about0,0 a yr.

4365
02:27:43,986 --> 02:27:46,386
>>Ken gelke: I rlly,

4366
02:27:46,687 --> 02:27:49,487
ha to say, b a

4367
02:27:49,487 --> 02:27:50,453
ingnicant amelative to

4368
02:27:50,453 --> 02:27:52,853
th9 llion, wter we

4369
02:27:54,354 --> 02:27:56,754
ven t rerve for

4370
02:27:57,421 --> 02:27:58,421
I do contie to stress t

4371
02:27:58,421 --> 02:28:00,421
ci'siability thate'

4372
02:28:02,920 --> 02:28:04,354
piing up,ut'merinly in

4373
02:28:04,354 --> 02:28:05,921
favo oftartinghe proce

4374
02:28:05,921 --> 02:28:07,354
MR. Ma y'll le ow

4375
02:28:07,354 --> 02:28:08,186
when c mak a motion.

4376
02:28:08,186 --> 02:28:09,187
>>MayoPaota: reaheyou

4377
02:28:09,187 --> 02:28:09,853
sir.

4378
02:28:09,853 --> 02:28:11,754
Ken Engelk: ank you

4379
02:28:11,754 --> 02:28:12,987
I wouldik to makio

4380
02:28:12,987 --> 02:28:14,686
fothe city cou t

4381
02:28:14,686 --> 02:28:17,537
auore the ci mag t

4382
02:28:17,537 --> 02:28:18,354
me withrentativesfhe

4383
02:28:18,354 --> 02:28:20,354
sawgraomnity andhe

4384
02:28:20,454 --> 02:28:21,753
centvece clion to

4385
02:28:21,753 --> 02:28:23,487
vep a pn for they

4386
02:28:23,487 --> 02:28:24,920
vece to pvi geral

4387
02:28:24,920 --> 02:28:26,920
maintenatohe sectif

4388
02:28:27,719 --> 02:28:29,719
currek ttlo through

4389
02:28:30,536 --> 02:28:30,919
eawass cni.

4390
02:28:30,919 --> 02:28:31,854
>> sd.

4391
02:28:31,854 --> 02:28:33,854
>>viEngelke:gn.

4392
02:28:34,360 --> 02:28:36,360
Laughter

4393
02:28:38,370 --> 02:28:40,370
keepingin t cits

4394
02:28:40,537 --> 02:28:41,220
exposureddional

4395
02:28:41,220 --> 02:28:41,920
liilies.

4396
02:28:41,920 --> 02:28:43,920
Now do

4397
02:28:43,988 --> 02:28:44,621
>>Ron Sm sond.

4398
02:28:44,621 --> 02:28:45,954
>>Mayocha: MR. Cy

4399
02:28:45,954 --> 02:28:46,854
mage

4400
02:28:46,854 --> 02:28:47,200
>>mes Clin tnk you,

4401
02:28:47,200 --> 02:28:48,453
mayor.

4402
02:28:48,453 --> 02:28:50,538
Just waedo cla t

4403
02:28:50,538 --> 02:28:51,954
ngge.

4404
02:28:51,954 --> 02:28:52,254
We've b talki aut routine

4405
02:28:52,254 --> 02:28:53,854
innance.

4406
02:28:53,854 --> 02:28:55,854
Ihink theorused in

4407
02:28:57,486 --> 02:28:58,420
motionas generaienance.

4408
02:28:58,420 --> 02:29:00,370
Wean have flexili to

4409
02:29:00,370 --> 02:29:02,370
brg backgreement the

4410
02:29:02,119 --> 02:29:04,519
st imporntng which I

4411
02:29:04,719 --> 02:29:05,719
hed from you alls tt w

4412
02:29:05,719 --> 02:29:06,854
fi the sco of wt tha

4413
02:29:06,854 --> 02:29:07,919
innance is a make se

4414
02:29:07,919 --> 02:29:09,254
's ver cle for ebo

4415
02:29:09,254 --> 02:29:10,919
who is ihe room, wre not

4416
02:29:10,919 --> 02:29:13,719
gog toe oside of tt

4417
02:29:13,719 --> 02:29:16,419
sce cause th I a lot oprate infrtrture outhe

4418
02:29:16,419 --> 02:29:18,119
atould be highollars.

4419
02:29:18,119 --> 02:29:19,119
>>KeEnlke: I a wh

4420
02:29:19,119 --> 02:29:20,953
your ierpretatn.

4421
02:29:20,953 --> 02:29:21,354
Me backith wtever y fl

4422
02:29:21,354 --> 02:29:23,354
appropri

4423
02:29:23,619 --> 02:29:24,119
we've to the ball

4424
02:29:24,119 --> 02:29:24,854
movi.

4425
02:29:24,854 --> 02:29:26,619
>>mes Clin: ank you.

4426
02:29:26,619 --> 02:29:28,220
>>Mayor cha: madamrk

4427
02:29:28,220 --> 02:29:29,919
e do ha two speer

4428
02:29:29,919 --> 02:29:30,486
jt wanted l you know.

4429
02:29:30,486 --> 02:29:31,920
Mar Pachote' get

4430
02:29:31,920 --> 02:29:32,352
e.

4431
02:29:32,352 --> 02:29:34,119
Alright.

4432
02:29:34,119 --> 02:29:35,190
So with tt, weav ppe

4433
02:29:35,190 --> 02:29:37,190
mo a second.

4434
02:29:37,853 --> 02:29:39,353
Wel go ahe and entertany

4435
02:29:39,353 --> 02:29:39,720
speake, dam c, t

4436
02:29:39,720 --> 02:29:41,370
time

4437
02:29:41,370 --> 02:29:41,353
>>he firstpeaker ste

4438
02:29:41,353 --> 02:29:43,353
carr.

4439
02:29:51,519 --> 02:29:53,519
Has fivnus.

4440
02:29:53,619 --> 02:29:56,190
>> good aernoon, MR. Mayornd

4441
02:29:56,519 --> 02:29:58,519
ty councor

4442
02:30:00,670 --> 02:30:01,753
thank foositivemments ouppo.

4443
02:30:01,753 --> 02:30:02,853
It's c g ithat

4444
02:30:02,853 --> 02:30:03,852
direion.

4445
02:30:03,852 --> 02:30:06,252
Ai tha youery much.

4446
02:30:07,530 --> 02:30:09,453
I r want givudos

4447
02:30:09,619 --> 02:30:12,190
citanag jam cnch and

4448
02:30:13,853 --> 02:30:15,452
astityanag rer

4449
02:30:15,452 --> 02:30:16,370
enhir anve fmhe

4450
02:30:16,370 --> 02:30:18,300
enneerin department.

4451
02:30:18,300 --> 02:30:18,837
Hang the opportuty to do the

4452
02:30:18,837 --> 02:30:20,303
transferf the stormwar ditch

4453
02:30:20,303 --> 02:30:22,569
to bri them monder,

4454
02:30:22,569 --> 02:30:24,569
especially outhatay, under

4455
02:30:25,870 --> 02:30:28,870
the county's umbrell is rlly

4456
02:30:29,337 --> 02:30:32,887
terrific and really is quit a

4457
02:30:32,887 --> 02:30:34,887
nderful opportity thats

4458
02:30:35,102 --> 02:30:36,437
w possible wit the county.

4459
02:30:36,437 --> 02:30:37,637
Because as abody that's tried

4460
02:30:37,637 --> 02:30:39,370
to wk with the cnty, it'

4461
02:30:39,370 --> 02:30:41,770
most like the federal

4462
02:30:41,770 --> 02:30:42,402
governmenthathe viceayor

4463
02:30:42,402 --> 02:30:44,402
had mentied.

4464
02:30:44,621 --> 02:30:46,169
It's really, really difficulto

4465
02:30:46,169 --> 02:30:47,637
get a straigh answer, a

4466
02:30:47,637 --> 02:30:48,269
really diffilt to get in the

4467
02:30:48,269 --> 02:30:49,853
sameoom.

4468
02:30:49,853 --> 02:30:52,387
Iseally is a terfic project

4469
02:30:52,387 --> 02:30:52,620
that looks like it'soing to

4470
02:30:52,620 --> 02:30:54,300
happen.

4471
02:30:54,300 --> 02:30:56,403
The onlyther comnt oth

4472
02:30:56,521 --> 02:30:57,369
than thaing, aga,

4473
02:30:57,369 --> 02:30:59,369
unfortately, withinur

4474
02:30:59,586 --> 02:31:02,436
press to prove projes, as

4475
02:31:02,436 --> 02:31:04,171
MR. Mayorad mtioned, it

4476
02:31:04,171 --> 02:31:06,702
rely stops a the developer

4477
02:31:06,702 --> 02:31:08,253
agreement do the 25-ar

4478
02:31:08,253 --> 02:31:10,253
stormwater dites to

4479
02:31:11,852 --> 02:31:13,236
accommodatthe water that would

4480
02:31:13,236 --> 02:31:14,200
be disaced by not having the

4481
02:31:14,200 --> 02:31:16,200
counity there.

4482
02:31:16,386 --> 02:31:18,170
That's whe it sto.

4483
02:31:18,170 --> 02:31:19,820
There really isn't anyhought

4484
02:31:19,820 --> 02:31:21,335
tohe amount of water that

4485
02:31:21,335 --> 02:31:24,860
ows tard curry cre and

4486
02:31:24,860 --> 02:31:25,686
otr places ce the is the

4487
02:31:25,686 --> 02:31:26,570
storms a the pondsill up and

4488
02:31:26,570 --> 02:31:28,170
e overflo

4489
02:31:28,170 --> 02:31:29,852
that's the key.

4490
02:31:29,852 --> 02:31:31,530
That's one part that isot

4491
02:31:31,530 --> 02:31:32,435
nsidered in o process

4492
02:31:32,435 --> 02:31:34,120
I'm nosure how we de with

4493
02:31:34,120 --> 02:31:35,735
it, butt should be something

4494
02:31:35,735 --> 02:31:37,453
that wreognizant of bause

4495
02:31:37,453 --> 02:31:38,786
it does impact n only the

4496
02:31:38,786 --> 02:31:40,302
curry creek area, t central

4497
02:31:40,302 --> 02:31:43,302
venice area a all t

4498
02:31:43,819 --> 02:31:44,350
businessesbut it is allround

4499
02:31:44,350 --> 02:31:46,350
thcity.

4500
02:31:47,200 --> 02:31:47,903
th's what ihink the

4501
02:31:47,903 --> 02:31:49,690
floodplainanagement proct

4502
02:31:49,690 --> 02:31:51,103
that the enginring departmt

4503
02:31:51,103 --> 02:31:54,703
is startin to look a will,

4504
02:31:55,853 --> 02:31:58,300
again, giv bigicture of how

4505
02:31:58,300 --> 02:31:58,570
stormwat isandled in the

4506
02:31:58,570 --> 02:32:00,300
city of vene.

4507
02:32:00,300 --> 02:32:01,986
Again, the's been a lot of

4508
02:32:01,986 --> 02:32:03,369
positive this, and I

4509
02:32:03,369 --> 02:32:04,269
appreciate you time and your

4510
02:32:04,269 --> 02:32:05,869
considerion through ahis.

4511
02:32:05,869 --> 02:32:07,319
Than you.

4512
02:32:07,319 --> 02:32:08,703
Excuse me,ne other thing.

4513
02:32:08,703 --> 02:32:09,953
I think therere a number of

4514
02:32:09,953 --> 02:32:11,603
sawgss people her today I

4515
02:32:11,603 --> 02:32:13,770
would really le to tha them

4516
02:32:13,770 --> 02:32:14,485
for coming o and hring this

4517
02:32:14,485 --> 02:32:14,703
convertion.

4518
02:32:14,703 --> 02:32:15,335
Anks.

4519
02:32:15,335 --> 02:32:16,970
Mayor Pachota:hank you for

4520
02:32:16,970 --> 02:32:17,985
your commes.

4521
02:32:17,985 --> 02:32:19,370
Next saker.

4522
02:32:19,370 --> 02:32:21,319
>> morgan bentley representing

4523
02:32:21,319 --> 02:32:22,435
sawgra.

4524
02:32:22,435 --> 02:32:23,453
I'll be sup brief.

4525
02:32:23,453 --> 02:32:23,769
Weook forward to t

4526
02:32:23,769 --> 02:32:25,585
convertion.

4527
02:32:25,585 --> 02:32:25,985
'll come up wh a great

4528
02:32:25,985 --> 02:32:26,935
agreement.

4529
02:32:26,935 --> 02:32:28,968
We think you'l like it.

4530
02:32:28,968 --> 02:32:29,603
Your sta is great.

4531
02:32:29,603 --> 02:32:30,270
>>Mayor chota: thank y for

4532
02:32:30,270 --> 02:32:32,270
youromments.

4533
02:32:34,402 --> 02:32:34,936
Is that all of our speakers?

4534
02:32:34,936 --> 02:32:35,552
>>es.

4535
02:32:35,552 --> 02:32:36,618
>>yor Pachota: a council

4536
02:32:36,618 --> 02:32:36,803
scussion?

4537
02:32:36,803 --> 02:32:38,136
Ay.

4538
02:32:38,136 --> 02:32:38,835
Eing none, we' move to an

4539
02:32:38,835 --> 02:32:40,703
ectronic vote.

4540
02:32:40,703 --> 02:32:42,303
MADAM Clerk, when you' rea,

4541
02:32:42,303 --> 02:32:43,104
make us ready f that process

4542
02:32:43,104 --> 02:32:44,703
councilembers, whenour

4543
02:32:44,703 --> 02:32:47,703
lights a flashing, y can

4544
02:32:49,203 --> 02:32:50,136
indite your vote.

4545
02:32:50,136 --> 02:32:51,636
All ght.

4546
02:32:51,636 --> 02:32:52,536
Mada clerk, youan talnd

4547
02:32:52,536 --> 02:32:54,536
display.

4548
02:32:55,700 --> 02:32:56,860
Passesnanimously.

4549
02:32:56,860 --> 02:32:57,686
[Sounding gel]

4550
02:32:57,686 --> 02:32:59,686
[Plause]

4551
02:33:00,300 --> 02:33:01,419
Thhat, weill take our

4552
02:33:01,419 --> 02:33:03,819
execive session a comack

4553
02:33:57,920 --> 02:33:59,254
[Unding gavel]

4554
02:33:59,254 --> 02:34:01,254
>>Mayor Paa: allht.

4555
02:34:08,471 --> 02:34:12,400
We're back.K you en thece foreing are o t6-0707

4556
02:34:12,400 --> 02:34:13,370
thtus of lauadidenin projencludi

4557
02:34:13,370 --> 02:34:14,938
ddinand revedine.

4558
02:34:14,938 --> 02:34:16,254
. Sth, puton t

4559
02:34:16,254 --> 02:34:18,254
, ifou cou bri

4560
02:34:24,536 --> 02:34:26,536
introduce it

4561
02:34:27,337 --> 02:34:28,571
Ron Smit tha you, mor.

4562
02:34:28,571 --> 02:34:29,937
Ied for thi-ofoue,

4563
02:34:29,937 --> 02:34:31,286
ve wee ago, dn't h I

4564
02:34:31,286 --> 02:34:33,686
on the agenda yet.

4565
02:34:37,604 --> 02:34:39,370
Ierstood therereomedeenitid

4566
02:34:39,370 --> 02:34:39,636
ter bhat

4567
02:34:39,636 --> 02:34:41,636
bac

4568
02:34:42,536 --> 02:34:44,271
wtee ableoeport

4569
02:34:44,271 --> 02:34:46,271
thato t p

4570
02:34:46,671 --> 02:34:48,671
inder thas excde

4571
02:34:48,871 --> 02:34:50,737
the f mon the city

4572
02:34:50,737 --> 02:34:51,436
y commi, thetate had

4573
02:34:51,436 --> 02:34:53,170
ady committ

4574
02:34:53,170 --> 02:34:56,353
so I wand toet an update on

4575
02:34:56,353 --> 02:34:59,353
th, ere we standnd what

4576
02:34:59,437 --> 02:35:01,537
wi haveo happen if those

4577
02:35:01,537 --> 02:35:03,221
ds exceed what we budted.

4578
02:35:03,221 --> 02:35:05,622
>>Mayor chot MR. Clinch, do

4579
02:35:05,622 --> 02:35:06,236
you havenythin on this top?

4580
02:35:06,236 --> 02:35:08,236
Jamein:do

4581
02:35:09,300 --> 02:35:11,403
ask m ker oit

4582
02:35:12,671 --> 02:35:16,271
gine t be withecoun, h p

4583
02:35:16,571 --> 02:35:17,837
te.

4584
02:35:17,837 --> 02:35:18,637
N amodnoon,

4585
02:35:18,637 --> 02:35:20,637
madounc

4586
02:35:20,736 --> 02:35:22,521
fo the recr,ity

4587
02:35:22,521 --> 02:35:24,521
engi.

4588
02:35:24,721 --> 02:35:27,721
As you're awa laurel road

4589
02:35:28,104 --> 02:35:29,554
dening is a publiprivate

4590
02:35:29,554 --> 02:35:31,710
partnehip project maned by

4591
02:35:31,710 --> 02:35:32,821
sarasota countand the laure

4592
02:35:32,821 --> 02:35:34,821
roaddd.

4593
02:35:36,521 --> 02:35:38,637
E prectas a million

4594
02:35:38,637 --> 02:35:40,671
budgethalf from a state grant

4595
02:35:40,671 --> 02:35:42,671
d lf mobilympt

4596
02:35:44,437 --> 02:35:47,369
abouix a a h mli

4597
02:35:47,369 --> 02:35:49,103
thatmoun wasnt on

4598
02:35:49,103 --> 02:35:51,103
right -- waycquisi,

4599
02:35:51,936 --> 02:35:53,936
leav9.5 milln

4600
02:35:56,136 --> 02:35:57,469
constionthe bidhe pject

4601
02:35:57,469 --> 02:35:59,469
ier thisear.

4602
02:36:00,469 --> 02:36:03,336
Ey opene bids on MAY 22nd,

4603
02:36:03,336 --> 02:36:06,336
d ahe bids wever the

4604
02:36:06,570 --> 02:36:07,336
oject budtnd thedd

4605
02:36:07,336 --> 02:36:09,336
rectedhe

4606
02:36:10,620 --> 02:36:12,404
cddn worked wh t

4607
02:36:12,404 --> 02:36:14,404
contto vuengin

4608
02:36:16,771 --> 02:36:19,270
the ect t rede tuction cos

4609
02:36:19,270 --> 02:36:21,270
theyke athis as

4610
02:36:23,304 --> 02:36:25,304
itchhe pemenesign,

4611
02:36:25,370 --> 02:36:27,370
th o srmwar

4612
02:36:31,690 --> 02:36:34,986
pipethey switchem bding tprt aump sum to uni

4613
02:36:34,986 --> 02:36:36,954
priceostsnd, mos

4614
02:36:36,954 --> 02:36:38,954
importantl ty hav

4615
02:36:39,187 --> 02:36:41,587
identifi a fill location

4616
02:36:42,486 --> 02:36:44,486
the contracto.

4617
02:36:45,137 --> 02:36:46,170
The cost o I ually

4618
02:36:46,170 --> 02:36:48,170
nsiv but t

4619
02:36:49,486 --> 02:36:49,804
trspti of fil is vy

4620
02:36:49,804 --> 02:36:50,954
exnsiv

4621
02:36:50,954 --> 02:36:52,954
some of esontracere

4622
02:36:54,400 --> 02:36:55,337
lookg ring I flro

4623
02:36:55,337 --> 02:36:57,337
adjant cous.

4624
02:36:59,604 --> 02:37:03,204
An itilar, I d h an

4625
02:37:04,704 --> 02:37:05,354
exhi can share o the

4626
02:37:05,354 --> 02:37:07,354
overhead.

4627
02:37:10,603 --> 02:37:13,402
The cdd h identied this

4628
02:37:13,402 --> 02:37:13,803
existing pond sourc of

4629
02:37:13,803 --> 02:37:15,803
fill.

4630
02:37:17,321 --> 02:37:17,570
Thant to dig thi pond

4631
02:37:17,570 --> 02:37:19,570
eper.

4632
02:37:21,570 --> 02:37:23,570
Is inheloent t

4633
02:37:24,370 --> 02:37:25,770
theiltl and

4634
02:37:25,770 --> 02:37:27,770
randasposed.

4635
02:37:27,770 --> 02:37:29,504
Sohistingond, ty wan

4636
02:37:29,504 --> 02:37:31,403
digeeper whe

4637
02:37:31,403 --> 02:37:32,570
isootpri, a t

4638
02:37:32,570 --> 02:37:34,369
believthre wil a

4639
02:37:34,369 --> 02:37:36,369
ion dolla savgs

4640
02:37:38,571 --> 02:37:38,836
ing th pond a fil

4641
02:37:38,836 --> 02:37:40,836
ca

4642
02:37:43,169 --> 02:37:45,237
e c has readvti

4643
02:37:45,237 --> 02:37:47,237
prec bid areuen

4644
02:37:47,370 --> 02:37:47,902
PTrd

4645
02:37:47,902 --> 02:37:49,902
theyxponstruio

4646
02:37:52,170 --> 02:37:54,170
tivity tst lat

4647
02:37:55,437 --> 02:37:57,437
candr.

4648
02:37:59,371 --> 02:38:00,703
C awe anyuestio.

4649
02:38:00,703 --> 02:38:01,770
Machota:r. Smi.

4650
02:38:01,770 --> 02:38:03,770
Ron Smh: you.

4651
02:38:07,104 --> 02:38:09,104
Nalkut tt

4652
02:38:09,370 --> 02:38:11,370
excate f m

4653
02:38:12,970 --> 02:38:14,304
nvironnt

4654
02:38:14,304 --> 02:38:15,370
pas iom some

4655
02:38:15,370 --> 02:38:17,903
lkre goi t be u

4656
02:38:17,903 --> 02:38:19,402
wi?

4657
02:38:19,402 --> 02:38:21,569
Jon Krer the lakeill n

4658
02:38:21,569 --> 02:38:22,169
toered to

4659
02:38:22,169 --> 02:38:23,770
r.

4660
02:38:23,770 --> 02:38:25,770
I'veeeol tject

4661
02:38:25,770 --> 02:38:27,103
ennet T.W.M.D

4662
02:38:27,103 --> 02:38:29,103
peit thatake alled

4663
02:38:30,570 --> 02:38:32,470
to beeper, a wne

4664
02:38:32,470 --> 02:38:34,303
it wnally, they

4665
02:38:34,303 --> 02:38:36,303
't gosees pnn

4666
02:38:36,836 --> 02:38:38,836
soig it deeril

4667
02:38:40,170 --> 02:38:42,170
quire dewatin

4668
02:38:42,970 --> 02:38:44,503
itl pyro a wer

4669
02:38:44,503 --> 02:38:46,503
quitfit bing a

4670
02:38:47,236 --> 02:38:49,236
pmal,ut I

4671
02:38:50,104 --> 02:38:52,104
uldn'txp ide

4672
02:38:53,235 --> 02:38:53,503
srmenuati

4673
02:38:53,503 --> 02:38:55,503
befi

4674
02:38:56,170 --> 02:38:57,303
if y ee aetdow

4675
02:38:57,303 --> 02:38:58,570
theonel, the

4676
02:38:58,570 --> 02:39:00,570
groundte justus I

4677
02:39:01,770 --> 02:39:03,636
an thapace.

4678
02:39:03,636 --> 02:39:05,636
Sohis dgi pondsee

4679
02:39:06,569 --> 02:39:08,569
somhit I tic

4680
02:39:09,902 --> 02:39:10,970
during cction

4681
02:39:10,970 --> 02:39:12,436
od whe ton

4682
02:39:12,436 --> 02:39:14,436
iginal b ccted,

4683
02:39:18,303 --> 02:39:20,703
contraor more fl,ndth modyhemit tdi pd d

4684
02:39:20,703 --> 02:39:23,103
's ait unusu t

4685
02:39:23,636 --> 02:39:27,236
diggging pdeebut iaveen t occ I

4686
02:39:29,104 --> 02:39:30,171
past.

4687
02:39:30,171 --> 02:39:31,402
>>Ron itnkou.

4688
02:39:31,402 --> 02:39:34,303
F.W.M. I ot

4689
02:39:34,303 --> 02:39:35,403
ap that?

4690
02:39:35,403 --> 02:39:36,435
>>n: I'molha

4691
02:39:36,435 --> 02:39:39,902
S.M.D. H ad I

4692
02:39:39,902 --> 02:39:42,302
theyeot appli thecityo t.

4693
02:39:42,870 --> 02:39:45,270
Ou a year aidve

4694
02:39:46,370 --> 02:39:48,370
anppon whe wante

4695
02:39:51,635 --> 02:39:52,970
-- he propodavatinhi

4696
02:39:52,970 --> 02:39:55,103
weanion foill,nd w

4697
02:39:55,103 --> 02:39:56,436
me ms whm.

4698
02:39:56,436 --> 02:39:58,436
Ey whdhat appca

4699
02:39:58,969 --> 02:40:00,569
dhahe tyec t

4700
02:40:00,569 --> 02:40:02,435
rsue d y tsting

4701
02:40:02,435 --> 02:40:03,236
dpe

4702
02:40:03,236 --> 02:40:05,236
>>Ron itn thast

4703
02:40:07,368 --> 02:40:09,768
me in d somin

4704
02:40:10,636 --> 02:40:12,636
la, houghtha was

4705
02:40:13,369 --> 02:40:14,369
publ, ow y'r sin

4706
02:40:14,369 --> 02:40:15,236
re goi t dhi

4707
02:40:15,236 --> 02:40:17,236
e road

4708
02:40:17,502 --> 02:40:18,703
I wro?

4709
02:40:18,703 --> 02:40:20,703
>>n: thenvironnt

4710
02:40:22,969 --> 02:40:24,769
port tt ubmitt ttoate thietlandaid I

4711
02:40:24,769 --> 02:40:27,169
s forhege at lael

4712
02:40:27,403 --> 02:40:28,569
acct.

4713
02:40:28,569 --> 02:40:30,569
Weubsequtl witth

4714
02:40:31,403 --> 02:40:32,935
tant tm.Old u mista,

4715
02:40:32,935 --> 02:40:35,935
thhis fl is needed f

4716
02:40:36,502 --> 02:40:38,502
road.Theyhdrew acation

4717
02:40:38,903 --> 02:40:40,636
to excave the wetnd

4718
02:40:40,636 --> 02:40:42,636
n'urendi

4719
02:40:42,736 --> 02:40:44,436
ap

4720
02:40:44,436 --> 02:40:45,736
n h:.

4721
02:40:45,736 --> 02:40:47,736
>>ot MS.

4722
02:40:48,360 --> 02:40:49,360
Fnkncoup o yce

4723
02:40:49,360 --> 02:40:50,236
la r I ts

4724
02:40:50,236 --> 02:40:52,236
nt oet

4725
02:40:52,236 --> 02:40:54,400
so yan rre memy.

4726
02:40:54,400 --> 02:40:56,400
Inhe pcess,ou

4727
02:40:56,153 --> 02:40:57,585
ned us hav I

4728
02:40:57,585 --> 02:40:59,569
rebias tre any

4729
02:40:59,569 --> 02:41:01,969
nversation or any cponts

4730
02:41:02,836 --> 02:41:05,136
lkg ou the h

4731
02:41:05,136 --> 02:41:07,136
siization orss

4732
02:41:08,860 --> 02:41:08,303
from t vetianolf river

4733
02:41:08,303 --> 02:41:09,860
cl.

4734
02:41:09,860 --> 02:41:11,860
Waha mtionedalto

4735
02:41:11,136 --> 02:41:13,586
hany cnge fm w it

4736
02:41:13,586 --> 02:41:14,536
initiay bid now

4737
02:41:14,536 --> 02:41:17,190
>>Jon as fs I know,

4738
02:41:17,190 --> 02:41:19,635
th have en no ces to

4739
02:41:19,635 --> 02:41:20,502
thatl situaon.

4740
02:41:20,502 --> 02:41:22,237
Rachelrank:at, becse

4741
02:41:22,237 --> 02:41:24,237
at w imporntspect

4742
02:41:24,519 --> 02:41:26,919
the prect to me.

4743
02:41:28,470 --> 02:41:30,536
, t n impt the

4744
02:41:30,536 --> 02:41:33,536
murt dthat p of t

4745
02:41:34,501 --> 02:41:35,685
projt, or tha separe?

4746
02:41:35,685 --> 02:41:37,336
>>Jon Kramaureload

4747
02:41:37,336 --> 02:41:39,286
projectludes the mt on t

4748
02:41:39,286 --> 02:41:41,168
south f laureload.

4749
02:41:41,168 --> 02:41:44,768
S f a I kno that

4750
02:41:44,785 --> 02:41:45,352
tnged I thi rebid

4751
02:41:45,352 --> 02:41:47,352
>>rankreat.

4752
02:41:47,752 --> 02:41:48,869
I thi two ps will be

4753
02:41:48,869 --> 02:41:50,369
ant theublico be

4754
02:41:50,369 --> 02:41:52,680
awe ofausey wer

4755
02:41:52,680 --> 02:41:52,886
pects of troject w

4756
02:41:52,886 --> 02:41:53,769
hearfromiden we

4757
02:41:53,769 --> 02:41:55,769
rtano t

4758
02:41:56,202 --> 02:41:58,602
so I appreate yoularig

4759
02:42:00,785 --> 02:42:03,401
at ourrentnderstandi thathere ino cha t

4760
02:42:03,401 --> 02:42:03,602
-- two aspts of tha

4761
02:42:03,602 --> 02:42:05,536
ad.

4762
02:42:05,536 --> 02:42:07,536
U.

4763
02:42:09,860 --> 02:42:11,860
Yor Paota: anyon

4764
02:42:11,919 --> 02:42:13,860
al right.

4765
02:42:13,860 --> 02:42:13,286
. Kramer, you f your

4766
02:42:13,286 --> 02:42:13,801
time.

4767
02:42:13,801 --> 02:42:15,768
Ecia y.

4768
02:42:15,768 --> 02:42:17,870
Mrsmith, do h an

4769
02:42:17,870 --> 02:42:19,487
it rel tohe imation

4770
02:42:23,286 --> 02:42:24,535
you redo yaveotio

4771
02:42:24,535 --> 02:42:26,690
>>Ron

4772
02:42:26,690 --> 02:42:27,252
I wanted update.

4773
02:42:27,252 --> 02:42:29,119
>>Mayor Pamadalerk

4774
02:42:29,119 --> 02:42:31,519
wo't imane w anydy

4775
02:42:33,869 --> 02:42:34,436
up sak.>> w not a I'm hg sometechl difculties.

4776
02:42:34,436 --> 02:42:36,136
Yor Paota: okay.

4777
02:42:36,136 --> 02:42:37,486
Wi there nootion,

4778
02:42:37,486 --> 02:42:39,886
ne t do anhingre.

4779
02:42:44,401 --> 02:42:46,801
So we'ove to 20708, and

4780
02:42:49,302 --> 02:42:51,219
thiss mr.Th, ltinrmation re

4781
02:42:51,219 --> 02:42:52,868
deloper's ato the city

4782
02:42:52,868 --> 02:42:53,735
nings vlage

4783
02:42:53,735 --> 02:42:55,735
develo ven

4784
02:42:57,402 --> 02:42:58,520
hospite.

4785
02:42:58,520 --> 02:42:59,401
Ith:s is sething I

4786
02:42:59,401 --> 02:43:00,802
askut in the l

4787
02:43:00,802 --> 02:43:01,636
meeting wook our bak

4788
02:43:01,636 --> 02:43:03,636
fo s

4789
02:43:04,202 --> 02:43:06,385
I wa anxio g t publi

4790
02:43:06,385 --> 02:43:08,385
an u

4791
02:43:09,200 --> 02:43:11,402
MR. Mudgas give muchf

4792
02:43:11,452 --> 02:43:13,852
my upd sincethanuor t

4793
02:43:17,635 --> 02:43:18,935
but I we to know frothe sff I t's any to

4794
02:43:18,935 --> 02:43:20,935
knowincer thatast

4795
02:43:22,820 --> 02:43:24,434
cil ing was in je and

4796
02:43:24,434 --> 02:43:26,302
wh curress and

4797
02:43:26,302 --> 02:43:28,702
at we caxpec behe

4798
02:43:28,969 --> 02:43:30,535
neopme

4799
02:43:30,535 --> 02:43:30,751
>>yor Pachot y to

4800
02:43:30,751 --> 02:43:32,510
mrinch.

4801
02:43:32,510 --> 02:43:34,690
Him anad a mh

4802
02:43:34,690 --> 02:43:36,690
e fo

4803
02:43:36,984 --> 02:43:38,350
imhimen with

4804
02:43:38,350 --> 02:43:39,385
he'd l say

4805
02:43:39,385 --> 02:43:40,352
>>Jas Clinch: u,

4806
02:43:40,352 --> 02:43:41,652
r.

4807
02:43:41,652 --> 02:43:44,135
Rtuny, a wle lot m

4808
02:43:44,135 --> 02:43:44,274
t t heard MR.

4809
02:43:44,274 --> 02:43:46,520
Mu

4810
02:43:46,520 --> 02:43:48,520
were ableth

4811
02:43:49,935 --> 02:43:51,152
theers back iddlefy.

4812
02:43:51,152 --> 02:43:52,785
E mayor aith the

4813
02:43:52,785 --> 02:43:54,518
andgnd zoning d

4814
02:43:54,518 --> 02:43:56,518
roger claith them

4815
02:43:57,519 --> 02:43:59,220
separatelytheent thateeting w

4816
02:43:59,220 --> 02:44:00,350
to lowt ourules

4817
02:44:00,350 --> 02:44:01,134
egulnsere for t

4818
02:44:01,134 --> 02:44:02,419
ea, what t zoning

4819
02:44:02,419 --> 02:44:04,152
iremen w den

4820
02:44:04,152 --> 02:44:05,885
thet restions,nd

4821
02:44:05,885 --> 02:44:07,101
thent pro would

4822
02:44:07,101 --> 02:44:07,934
look liky dec to

4823
02:44:07,934 --> 02:44:09,934
move forwa

4824
02:44:10,384 --> 02:44:12,384
there very coopetive.

4825
02:44:12,652 --> 02:44:14,202
Theymed very excbout

4826
02:44:14,202 --> 02:44:16,201
the potect, they

4827
02:44:16,201 --> 02:44:18,201
llowp, I belheyt

4828
02:44:23,235 --> 02:44:25,635
responnce toouncile nexteekhome updat

4829
02:44:26,451 --> 02:44:29,850
nderings ig therellin sca project

4830
02:44:29,850 --> 02:44:31,485
wn t meet ourulesnd

4831
02:44:31,868 --> 02:44:33,868
retions,lsooura.

4832
02:44:34,568 --> 02:44:36,401
Ki ofcehat time,e have

4833
02:44:36,401 --> 02:44:38,401
noard anythingm

4834
02:44:39,102 --> 02:44:40,935
em, whichrobabl notood b at thipoint, but

4835
02:44:40,935 --> 02:44:42,235
haveo applica o

4836
02:44:42,235 --> 02:44:42,502
additirespnce to

4837
02:44:42,502 --> 02:44:44,502
sh

4838
02:44:44,768 --> 02:44:46,768
th you.

4839
02:44:47,350 --> 02:44:48,552
Mayor chota: I'l add

4840
02:44:48,552 --> 02:44:50,552
that,he meetingas

4841
02:44:51,902 --> 02:44:53,835
reof me, and didn'

4842
02:44:53,835 --> 02:44:55,568
re encouge oiscourage

4843
02:44:55,568 --> 02:44:57,568
anhing other wha

4844
02:45:01,202 --> 02:45:02,468
ent says.S tre moro liste to

4845
02:45:02,468 --> 02:45:03,684
theyereng

4846
02:45:03,684 --> 02:45:04,602
ide independe

4847
02:45:04,602 --> 02:45:06,602
feed an indiv

4848
02:45:07,568 --> 02:45:09,568
cil meer.

4849
02:45:09,917 --> 02:45:11,917
Eyeemedyeptio

4850
02:45:12,268 --> 02:45:14,268
workwithinurrente,

4851
02:45:15,502 --> 02:45:17,502
not anythinouldotsid theurre

4852
02:45:18,334 --> 02:45:20,334
boundari wwe hav

4853
02:45:24,510 --> 02:45:26,510
butery, vere desig

4854
02:45:29,568 --> 02:45:31,534
an ction ofngst

4855
02:45:31,534 --> 02:45:33,500
would somey good usef

4856
02:45:33,500 --> 02:45:35,900
telogy fir water use

4857
02:45:38,951 --> 02:45:41,500
an energyse al, whiwasy impssive wit whatey wtryingo do t

4858
02:45:41,500 --> 02:45:41,651
lnt oheir

4859
02:45:41,651 --> 02:45:43,168
nesslage.

4860
02:45:43,168 --> 02:45:45,535
That'sll I hav add

4861
02:45:45,535 --> 02:45:46,535
anythi mr.Mith?

4862
02:45:46,535 --> 02:45:47,235
>>n Smith: a don't h

4863
02:45:47,235 --> 02:45:48,835
a on to make.

4864
02:45:48,835 --> 02:45:50,680
I thk you theort.

4865
02:45:50,680 --> 02:45:51,284
Iant to tel in

4866
02:45:51,284 --> 02:45:52,417
yes as a couil member,

4867
02:45:52,417 --> 02:45:54,817
been ae qions abo

4868
02:45:55,736 --> 02:45:56,168
thatospinythin

4869
02:45:56,168 --> 02:45:58,168
el

4870
02:45:59,135 --> 02:46:00,268
I' appciate it if e a

4871
02:46:00,268 --> 02:46:02,668
developm we cou be

4872
02:46:03,750 --> 02:46:05,368
tohem rather than b

4873
02:46:05,368 --> 02:46:06,551
work bhe back and

4874
02:46:06,551 --> 02:46:07,267
three moert c to

4875
02:46:07,267 --> 02:46:09,267
the cocil.

4876
02:46:10,935 --> 02:46:13,935
Jus tknowere'ow something sitti in

4877
02:46:14,301 --> 02:46:16,185
the ning departmen

4878
02:46:16,185 --> 02:46:17,885
proposin mvely

4879
02:46:17,885 --> 02:46:18,268
importanct her

4880
02:46:18,268 --> 02:46:20,268
city.

4881
02:46:20,535 --> 02:46:21,235
Hat pble?

4882
02:46:21,235 --> 02:46:22,500
>>JameClinch:ely.

4883
02:46:22,500 --> 02:46:24,500
Thats n proem.

4884
02:46:26,201 --> 02:46:27,667
Y toet all ofou kno do ep gn

4885
02:46:27,667 --> 02:46:28,467
apation thatroject

4886
02:46:28,467 --> 02:46:29,385
r Paa: mad clerk,

4887
02:46:29,385 --> 02:46:31,350
odyd up speakn

4888
02:46:31,350 --> 02:46:31,684
?

4889
02:46:31,684 --> 02:46:33,100
We dnot.

4890
02:46:33,100 --> 02:46:35,000
Mayochota: MS. Frank is

4891
02:46:35,000 --> 02:46:36,401
youtton pushe tkr I

4892
02:46:36,401 --> 02:46:38,401
just -- okay.

4893
02:46:38,667 --> 02:46:39,367
Tecal dficulties.

4894
02:46:39,367 --> 02:46:41,367
Al.

4895
02:46:42,767 --> 02:46:43,768
E nextse.

4896
02:46:43,768 --> 02:46:44,935
Da centeroratorium.

4897
02:46:44,935 --> 02:46:47,935
Sicall I put thion the

4898
02:46:47,950 --> 02:46:49,950
endaocuss really t

4899
02:46:50,100 --> 02:46:51,834
conc oaving a suld

4900
02:46:51,834 --> 02:46:53,402
thome, so ki of

4901
02:46:53,402 --> 02:46:55,135
tting moratium togher so

4902
02:46:55,135 --> 02:46:56,800
wean devop t plans

4903
02:46:56,800 --> 02:46:58,830
andaredf when

4904
02:46:58,830 --> 02:46:59,201
something ome to

4905
02:46:59,201 --> 02:47:00,800
s noanyniti

4906
02:47:00,800 --> 02:47:02,467
in city r thi

4907
02:47:02,467 --> 02:47:03,750
but ant be unprepa

4908
02:47:03,750 --> 02:47:05,433
th why I t t

4909
02:47:05,433 --> 02:47:07,433
agenda.

4910
02:47:08,267 --> 02:47:09,834
Mam clerk, do youavenybo

4911
02:47:09,834 --> 02:47:09,984
gned up speak?

4912
02:47:09,984 --> 02:47:11,151
O.

4913
02:47:11,151 --> 02:47:13,551
>>Mayor let make a

4914
02:47:15,718 --> 02:47:17,718
if the'scuss the

4915
02:47:23,180 --> 02:47:25,180
we ce tiscussion.

4916
02:47:27,134 --> 02:47:32,534
My motion t d s tobring backn oinance forn

4917
02:47:32,800 --> 02:47:34,800
18-monoriu ona

4918
02:47:37,784 --> 02:47:38,951
ced-or timerame

4919
02:47:38,951 --> 02:47:40,651
that is lellyible

4920
02:47:40,651 --> 02:47:41,568
beuse I knoenatl 180

4921
02:47:41,568 --> 02:47:43,301
is con

4922
02:47:43,301 --> 02:47:44,184
ct sta tring backn

4923
02:47:44,184 --> 02:47:46,184
ordinae8 month

4924
02:47:46,450 --> 02:47:48,151
moraum onata cters or a

4925
02:47:48,151 --> 02:47:49,801
fra that iegally

4926
02:47:49,801 --> 02:47:51,801
sibl

4927
02:47:54,818 --> 02:47:56,340
sey mr.Ard.Withhat, we'lln

4928
02:47:56,340 --> 02:47:58,340
scussi.

4929
02:48:00,401 --> 02:48:01,510
Mr

4930
02:48:01,510 --> 02:48:02,100
>>Ron Smit you MR.

4931
02:48:02,100 --> 02:48:04,100
Mayor.

4932
02:48:07,768 --> 02:48:09,768
Ing e fohis

4933
02:48:10,501 --> 02:48:12,168
moti becau I'm tol't

4934
02:48:12,168 --> 02:48:13,301
have athing our ce

4935
02:48:13,301 --> 02:48:15,301
essest, a need

4936
02:48:16,133 --> 02:48:18,133
tio prepareome lanage

4937
02:48:19,184 --> 02:48:20,800
fo our lanevelopntlation

4938
02:48:20,800 --> 02:48:22,501
obvihata good thi

4939
02:48:22,501 --> 02:48:24,501
do thahiss a

4940
02:48:27,601 --> 02:48:28,330
natial scare thatemindse

4941
02:48:28,330 --> 02:48:30,330
of2k.

4942
02:48:30,660 --> 02:48:31,250
R an oeactio

4943
02:48:31,250 --> 02:48:31,466
g wenowugh

4944
02:48:31,466 --> 02:48:33,466
t.

4945
02:48:36,318 --> 02:48:37,850
I've bn to sem overe sr o dat crs

4946
02:48:37,850 --> 02:48:39,700
e itedo

4947
02:48:39,700 --> 02:48:41,700
about dters

4948
02:48:43,118 --> 02:48:46,718
muchf what p f is not

4949
02:48:47,670 --> 02:48:49,670
rlity.Thegest thingt's

4950
02:48:49,134 --> 02:48:52,134
is it iso thrt to

4951
02:48:55,834 --> 02:48:58,670
r waterupply.Thepeaker h from mia

4952
02:48:58,670 --> 02:48:59,334
is ofater the

4953
02:48:59,334 --> 02:49:01,334
soutfloridaeragem

4954
02:49:03,867 --> 02:49:04,116
strict saihis iot a

4955
02:49:04,116 --> 02:49:04,868
concern.

4956
02:49:04,868 --> 02:49:06,868
Egul

4957
02:49:07,267 --> 02:49:09,134
ey hav to aermi fro

4958
02:49:09,134 --> 02:49:11,317
, and we wil ge any of

4959
02:49:11,317 --> 02:49:13,160
th permit way it' d

4960
02:49:13,160 --> 02:49:15,416
toda is in closed

4961
02:49:15,634 --> 02:49:17,634
systng wat

4962
02:49:18,467 --> 02:49:20,201
speakerd think of a

4963
02:49:20,201 --> 02:49:20,383
diator that'seingd over

4964
02:49:20,383 --> 02:49:22,383
d over

4965
02:49:22,566 --> 02:49:24,133
iaid k of a coong t

4966
02:49:24,133 --> 02:49:26,133
nar plant

4967
02:49:26,533 --> 02:49:29,384
at werk in and is

4968
02:49:29,384 --> 02:49:31,384
recy and r

4969
02:49:36,634 --> 02:49:37,867
and ts speaker thahee ofells in pe c

4970
02:49:37,867 --> 02:49:39,867
whict have munic

4971
02:49:43,217 --> 02:49:44,535
ter erywhere, I a big

4972
02:49:44,535 --> 02:49:46,535
m thll ofhe

4973
02:49:46,934 --> 02:49:48,934
nters thare thougbout

4974
02:49:49,200 --> 02:49:51,200
and emplat inouthorid

4975
02:49:51,900 --> 02:49:53,330
I sai o welt

4976
02:49:53,330 --> 02:49:55,301
meeel a lit bter.

4977
02:49:55,301 --> 02:49:55,999
Nexue com a, what

4978
02:49:55,999 --> 02:49:57,999
outcity

4979
02:49:58,834 --> 02:50:00,750
andn I'moldost

4980
02:50:00,750 --> 02:50:03,150
mo ones e supplyiir

4981
02:50:05,267 --> 02:50:07,667
doesn the power gri

4982
02:50:08,667 --> 02:50:10,670
at all dow rel.

4983
02:50:10,670 --> 02:50:11,300
Othe issue pollution

4984
02:50:11,300 --> 02:50:14,217
nd use ishat what t

4985
02:50:14,217 --> 02:50:16,217
for andf t

4986
02:50:16,418 --> 02:50:18,667
we do ed to lane

4987
02:50:18,667 --> 02:50:20,667
into our Ls.

4988
02:50:22,884 --> 02:50:23,767
So I'm forion, but I

4989
02:50:23,767 --> 02:50:25,150
ing peopl dow

4990
02:50:25,150 --> 02:50:26,350
thyou.

4991
02:50:26,350 --> 02:50:26,683
R Paa: mad att

4992
02:50:26,683 --> 02:50:27,167
>>Kelly ndezank yo

4993
02:50:27,167 --> 02:50:28,950
mayo

4994
02:50:28,950 --> 02:50:30,734
ju anppenda tor mo

4995
02:50:30,734 --> 02:50:33,134
and nt w smi,

4996
02:50:33,600 --> 02:50:35,317
ju pc's cla,

4997
02:50:35,317 --> 02:50:36,100
mon I leg

4998
02:50:36,100 --> 02:50:37,934
ible matorium w

4999
02:50:37,934 --> 02:50:39,716
able u toot jus p

5000
02:50:39,716 --> 02:50:40,766
receiving ions allow

5001
02:50:40,766 --> 02:50:42,484
the det oode

5002
02:50:42,484 --> 02:50:43,800
ovisionshat crently d't

5003
02:50:43,800 --> 02:50:46,200
have a spefic to

5004
02:50:46,434 --> 02:50:48,434
cents.

5005
02:50:48,950 --> 02:50:50,490
>> correctthat auallyhe spoint

5006
02:50:50,490 --> 02:50:52,449
his o give us

5007
02:50:52,534 --> 02:50:54,617
unito breat andeithomethi I c

5008
02:50:54,617 --> 02:50:56,617
th addresses I

5009
02:50:56,634 --> 02:50:57,967
eng.

5010
02:50:57,967 --> 02:50:59,484
>>Kelke:nk you MR.

5011
02:50:59,484 --> 02:51:01,484
R.

5012
02:51:03,333 --> 02:51:05,733
Ipen agr with my

5013
02:51:08,433 --> 02:51:10,433
e aeingeact dat.

5014
02:51:10,666 --> 02:51:10,883
We don't kno but io the

5015
02:51:10,883 --> 02:51:12,883
ea.

5016
02:51:15,917 --> 02:51:17,599
Let's I t our land

5017
02:51:17,599 --> 02:51:19,999
code and w outay.

5018
02:51:21,584 --> 02:51:23,584
Justeep iteutraly

5019
02:51:24,267 --> 02:51:26,667
objective se code oy,

5020
02:51:34,233 --> 02:51:36,233
nother com thathanou.

5021
02:51:38,249 --> 02:51:39,566
R Paa: oh,oy.

5022
02:51:39,566 --> 02:51:41,340
Looks l ebody off

5023
02:51:41,340 --> 02:51:43,340
th

5024
02:51:47,670 --> 02:51:49,349
yei'll srize,ou kno that wel everythinthat we'ringm the

5025
02:51:49,349 --> 02:51:50,667
scussionsundortht,

5026
02:51:50,667 --> 02:51:52,667
rasota couund

5027
02:51:56,566 --> 02:51:58,967
e is exactly t ihate technolos betthaneople rze, a the

5028
02:51:58,967 --> 02:51:59,670
is aotf hyp oright

5029
02:51:59,670 --> 02:52:01,670
now.

5030
02:52:03,401 --> 02:52:05,634
So make tha our codes

5031
02:52:05,634 --> 02:52:06,766
flect prop pis all

5032
02:52:06,766 --> 02:52:08,766
I' looki to

5033
02:52:11,683 --> 02:52:14,833
I tnk tortant becausetheris, a, not areashe cy youo this, but

5034
02:52:14,833 --> 02:52:16,966
e arome aasoulddefinite out fm t

5035
02:52:16,966 --> 02:52:18,449
resints.

5036
02:52:18,449 --> 02:52:20,449
Therment let's

5037
02:52:20,501 --> 02:52:20,668
goad and do aonic

5038
02:52:20,668 --> 02:52:22,668
vo.

5039
02:52:23,333 --> 02:52:25,250
Ma cle, w're ready.

5040
02:52:25,250 --> 02:52:27,315
Actually,or, I'lle to

5041
02:52:27,315 --> 02:52:27,883
roll calle bause

5042
02:52:27,883 --> 02:52:28,116
something wite

5043
02:52:28,116 --> 02:52:28,865
system.

5044
02:52:28,865 --> 02:52:30,699
Mayochota:e let you

5045
02:52:30,699 --> 02:52:31,833
erk fo aew a

5046
02:52:31,833 --> 02:52:34,116
l of a sudholem

5047
02:52:34,116 --> 02:52:35,233
dn.>> ts whatns w

5048
02:52:35,233 --> 02:52:37,233
kelly le

5049
02:52:37,583 --> 02:52:39,660
. Smith?

5050
02:52:39,660 --> 02:52:41,660
>>h: y

5051
02:52:43,330 --> 02:52:44,515
Lloyd Weed

5052
02:52:44,515 --> 02:52:46,515
vin Enlke: yes.

5053
02:52:46,583 --> 02:52:48,350
Rick Hard: yes.

5054
02:52:48,350 --> 02:52:49,965
Frayes.

5055
02:52:49,965 --> 02:52:51,566
Ce m Boldtyes.

5056
02:52:51,566 --> 02:52:53,266
>>Mayor yes

5057
02:52:53,266 --> 02:52:55,149
itasses una.

5058
02:52:55,149 --> 02:52:56,660
[Sounng gavel]

5059
02:52:56,660 --> 02:52:58,660
All

5060
02:52:59,465 --> 02:53:00,416
we on t crter

5061
02:53:00,416 --> 02:53:02,416
mpensaon.

5062
02:53:02,632 --> 02:53:02,900
E have alanullock in

5063
02:53:02,900 --> 02:53:03,216
?

5064
02:53:03,216 --> 02:53:05,216
We do.

5065
02:53:07,500 --> 02:53:09,500
The hrectoouldike to

5066
02:53:09,283 --> 02:53:12,283
come u a gettart on

5067
02:53:20,000 --> 02:53:20,732
charterpensatn.

5068
02:53:20,732 --> 02:53:22,132
Alan Bullodernoon

5069
02:53:22,132 --> 02:53:24,132
r an couil.

5070
02:53:25,990 --> 02:53:26,100
R recor a bullo, h

5071
02:53:26,100 --> 02:53:28,100
direor for theity of ven

5072
02:53:28,100 --> 02:53:29,833
we have three c offics,

5073
02:53:29,833 --> 02:53:31,416
onm I our cit

5074
02:53:31,416 --> 02:53:32,901
, another cit eyee.

5075
02:53:32,901 --> 02:53:34,383
The other two areur city

5076
02:53:34,383 --> 02:53:37,383
manager y clerk, b of

5077
02:53:38,783 --> 02:53:40,783
re cityloyees

5078
02:53:42,150 --> 02:53:44,150
it I witno

5079
02:53:44,450 --> 02:53:45,133
, if y like, their

5080
02:53:45,133 --> 02:53:47,133
compenypic would

5081
02:53:47,415 --> 02:53:47,850
oer 1stlong with

5082
02:53:47,850 --> 02:53:49,850
empls.

5083
02:53:50,840 --> 02:53:52,840
Awaref colive

5084
02:53:52,298 --> 02:53:54,298
ng pss tha

5085
02:53:55,898 --> 02:53:56,483
foionizees,

5086
02:53:56,483 --> 02:53:58,483
ainithat'sithin

5087
02:53:58,533 --> 02:54:00,448
inistrion's rea but

5088
02:54:00,448 --> 02:54:02,448
thls exclusive you.

5089
02:54:02,499 --> 02:54:03,682
In my m

5090
02:54:03,682 --> 02:54:05,682
have curamesnch,

5091
02:54:08,733 --> 02:54:09,733
cityanager$217,500nnua

5092
02:54:09,733 --> 02:54:11,433
base sal

5093
02:54:11,433 --> 02:54:13,433
ke men, annua

5094
02:54:14,830 --> 02:54:15,215
sala base I 164,052

5095
02:54:15,215 --> 02:54:17,215
rrently.

5096
02:54:21,199 --> 02:54:24,330
Supd youh w tonofnformation from our pee

5097
02:54:24,330 --> 02:54:24,249
arnd the state aloh

5098
02:54:24,249 --> 02:54:25,598
locapeers.

5099
02:54:25,598 --> 02:54:26,165
She infmation bef

5100
02:54:26,165 --> 02:54:27,433
today.

5101
02:54:27,433 --> 02:54:29,433
Youave anyuestions,

5102
02:54:31,965 --> 02:54:34,233
lgo ahe, please.>>MaPachot: any qfor MR.?

5103
02:54:34,233 --> 02:54:34,999
Madamorney, your bn I

5104
02:54:34,999 --> 02:54:36,498
stlhed.

5105
02:54:36,498 --> 02:54:38,498
Oubt hions

5106
02:54:41,820 --> 02:54:43,820
. Smith.

5107
02:54:43,865 --> 02:54:45,465
>>Ron hank.

5108
02:54:45,465 --> 02:54:48,867
First,g I say here, I

5109
02:54:48,867 --> 02:54:51,867
want it bet's not a

5110
02:54:52,233 --> 02:54:53,698
criticm offse three

5111
02:54:53,698 --> 02:54:55,216
induals t of the pro,

5112
02:54:55,216 --> 02:54:57,980
because fohreers -- s

5113
02:54:57,980 --> 02:54:59,949
would be thi -- am

5114
02:54:59,949 --> 02:55:02,949
not hay wit this ocess.

5115
02:55:04,465 --> 02:55:06,865
Oncegain yrou sen me

5116
02:55:06,966 --> 02:55:08,966
perforalua pap

5117
02:55:09,449 --> 02:55:11,449
o oer council

5118
02:55:12,849 --> 02:55:15,849
memb it is our practice

5119
02:55:16,815 --> 02:55:18,866
not to evaehese peopljuo giv the a raise

5120
02:55:18,866 --> 02:55:20,866
I tnk that'sista

5121
02:55:21,698 --> 02:55:23,399
I'tou comt to

5122
02:55:23,399 --> 02:55:24,666
keendings the

5123
02:55:24,666 --> 02:55:25,281
ll outnd jt don'tl

5124
02:55:25,281 --> 02:55:27,281
thut.

5125
02:55:29,660 --> 02:55:30,498
Oted notill themut.

5126
02:55:30,498 --> 02:55:32,249
Myxperience hat a

5127
02:55:32,249 --> 02:55:33,731
sudent the schoo,

5128
02:55:33,731 --> 02:55:35,731
xecutivend cy

5129
02:55:38,832 --> 02:55:41,232
manar in parin any

5130
02:55:41,667 --> 02:55:42,132
cityasndure very

5131
02:55:42,132 --> 02:55:44,132
uncoortable pr a

5132
02:55:45,116 --> 02:55:47,116
public dis ofir

5133
02:55:48,149 --> 02:55:51,149
performa the to get a

5134
02:55:51,866 --> 02:55:52,333
we coseo do t for

5135
02:55:52,333 --> 02:55:54,132
our.

5136
02:55:54,132 --> 02:55:56,532
I wantknow -- wou

5137
02:55:57,480 --> 02:55:59,281
ree mehenodysheir fir y a

5138
02:55:59,281 --> 02:56:02,281
posi it wod be ee

5139
02:56:03,198 --> 02:56:05,198
portant to dvaluation,

5140
02:56:05,467 --> 02:56:06,830
thorma perrmance

5141
02:56:06,830 --> 02:56:06,616
evalon?

5142
02:56:06,616 --> 02:56:08,616
>>Alan: gel

5143
02:56:08,731 --> 02:56:10,731
emment tms, perio

5144
02:56:11,566 --> 02:56:13,417
ght b sixrs or a mpendon theosition t

5145
02:56:13,417 --> 02:56:16,316
e cyill bui I o

5146
02:56:16,316 --> 02:56:18,316
positions, is

5147
02:56:18,665 --> 02:56:19,810
with these cha offic

5148
02:56:19,810 --> 02:56:20,990
posis.

5149
02:56:20,990 --> 02:56:22,990
Nly woulde

5150
02:56:23,232 --> 02:56:25,232
common pract.

5151
02:56:26,299 --> 02:56:28,132
Smit wantoepeaagain,r.Nch hase great

5152
02:56:28,132 --> 02:56:28,716
woor

5153
02:56:28,716 --> 02:56:30,716
I'm rticularlyft

5154
02:56:32,265 --> 02:56:35,980
he's don w us onudge

5155
02:56:35,980 --> 02:56:36,832
hist budget.But think troceequire

5156
02:56:36,832 --> 02:56:38,832
a perrmance eva

5157
02:56:38,982 --> 02:56:40,614
ing of goa h and I

5158
02:56:40,614 --> 02:56:43,140
d lio sees dot.

5159
02:56:43,632 --> 02:56:44,999
Have ever don tt?

5160
02:56:44,999 --> 02:56:45,565
E hen't done it in

5161
02:56:45,565 --> 02:56:47,320
thre

5162
02:56:47,320 --> 02:56:49,320
theast, howg isour

5163
02:56:49,298 --> 02:56:50,232
and w e d

5164
02:56:50,232 --> 02:56:51,382
Bul: heris m

5165
02:56:51,382 --> 02:56:53,632
perience a bee t

5166
02:56:53,632 --> 02:56:55,332
job sin008.

5167
02:56:55,332 --> 02:56:56,115
I'een many cembe

5168
02:56:56,115 --> 02:56:58,320
approaches this.

5169
02:56:58,320 --> 02:56:59,314
Theeven elect offic

5170
02:56:59,314 --> 02:57:00,432
t be twor perps t

5171
02:57:00,432 --> 02:57:01,732
who areeres in d

5172
02:57:01,732 --> 02:57:02,783
rformance evaluions for the

5173
02:57:02,783 --> 02:57:04,783
chfice

5174
02:57:06,315 --> 02:57:09,698
each h var reasofor to not

5175
02:57:09,698 --> 02:57:10,499
to dt, out,

5176
02:57:10,499 --> 02:57:11,640
commng nng wit it,

5177
02:57:11,640 --> 02:57:12,582
whatev

5178
02:57:12,582 --> 02:57:14,582
itd ofn p

5179
02:57:17,115 --> 02:57:20,282
approachesi typxpect seeactual doing I a they MAY

5180
02:57:20,282 --> 02:57:22,682
ay n have at

5181
02:57:23,881 --> 02:57:25,949
rreln to pst s toe t

5182
02:57:25,949 --> 02:57:26,698
iividual coembe

5183
02:57:26,698 --> 02:57:28,398
approaches it.

5184
02:57:28,398 --> 02:57:30,398
Staevel, have

5185
02:57:30,465 --> 02:57:30,899
authy to tl you wha

5186
02:57:30,899 --> 02:57:32,899
do.

5187
02:57:35,731 --> 02:57:37,265
's lefup to theuals

5188
02:57:37,265 --> 02:57:38,449
Ron h: tha you for t

5189
02:57:38,449 --> 02:57:39,998
want to asut t

5190
02:57:39,998 --> 02:57:41,665
informate given us,

5191
02:57:41,665 --> 02:57:44,650
ich is minim tms

5192
02:57:46,949 --> 02:57:48,849
making t decision pay

5193
02:57:48,849 --> 02:57:51,249
I'm vy uncfortable w

5194
02:57:51,632 --> 02:57:53,632
arabthat you u

5195
02:57:53,915 --> 02:57:55,915
ion o

5196
02:57:56,433 --> 02:57:58,433
underhat whe p

5197
02:57:58,798 --> 02:58:00,365
udy was de -- he pice

5198
02:58:00,365 --> 02:58:02,765
udy, that police s

5199
02:58:05,198 --> 02:58:06,247
ld userercos to cityf

5200
02:58:06,247 --> 02:58:07,348
ven w bee

5201
02:58:07,348 --> 02:58:08,599
discus presly wn

5202
02:58:08,599 --> 02:58:09,160
evaluatishoulde

5203
02:58:09,160 --> 02:58:11,160
ng pe.

5204
02:58:13,731 --> 02:58:14,866
Is that co

5205
02:58:14,866 --> 02:58:16,582
Bul: cou youeat

5206
02:58:16,582 --> 02:58:18,232
questn,lease?

5207
02:58:18,232 --> 02:58:20,632
N Sm didn'he polic

5208
02:58:23,382 --> 02:58:24,515
study e diffent comparathanhate h pre

5209
02:58:24,515 --> 02:58:25,865
Bul: yesthat's

5210
02:58:25,865 --> 02:58:27,598
corr

5211
02:58:27,598 --> 02:58:29,998
n Smit and iou

5212
02:58:31,915 --> 02:58:35,830
told uhat were goin tow usehoseparabl that

5213
02:58:35,830 --> 02:58:37,830
said ourparabl

5214
02:58:37,948 --> 02:58:39,597
after their resh whenou

5215
02:58:39,597 --> 02:58:41,997
ne wit our uni

5216
02:58:43,648 --> 02:58:45,698
cause there t r

5217
02:58:45,698 --> 02:58:46,265
compar ven ihat

5218
02:58:46,265 --> 02:58:47,470
fa

5219
02:58:47,470 --> 02:58:48,265
>>Alan Bult nsarily

5220
02:58:48,265 --> 02:58:49,232
no.

5221
02:58:49,232 --> 02:58:51,970
Thpara that

5222
02:58:51,970 --> 02:58:52,532
picauseunio

5223
02:58:52,532 --> 02:58:54,348
gotins are local peers,

5224
02:58:54,348 --> 02:58:55,465
it wou be the citrth

5225
02:58:55,465 --> 02:58:57,465
port, ngboat keyf

5226
02:58:57,732 --> 02:59:00,132
rasota, et et ra.

5227
02:59:01,297 --> 02:59:04,297
Th pe study usempars thatereparabl

5228
02:59:05,683 --> 02:59:08,830
in ter policevice, irstat.

5229
02:59:08,582 --> 02:59:10,582
That thi yea

5230
02:59:13,798 --> 02:59:16,198
s moreved tgeneunion negotia

5231
02:59:20,832 --> 02:59:23,232
y ctainly heempar trait

5232
02:59:23,315 --> 02:59:25,315
ivent yo are

5233
02:59:28,498 --> 02:59:28,764
intereheseeinged aparabl, I did taksomee yesterday t do

5234
02:59:28,764 --> 02:59:30,764
re

5235
02:59:31,214 --> 02:59:33,214
wased b migeinteed.

5236
02:59:33,297 --> 02:59:35,564
To thexten youight fd I

5237
02:59:35,564 --> 02:59:36,697
us, I d have city cle

5238
02:59:36,697 --> 02:59:38,697
city manageralar

5239
02:59:39,665 --> 02:59:40,798
of our combleities

5240
02:59:40,798 --> 02:59:43,315
with that r, if ld

5241
02:59:43,315 --> 02:59:46,915
ke to havhose.>>Roith: I lovehave

5242
02:59:47,310 --> 02:59:48,164
eore we any vot

5243
02:59:48,164 --> 02:59:50,564
my cticism of com

5244
02:59:52,131 --> 02:59:54,131
at weere onallyiven

5245
02:59:54,598 --> 02:59:55,615
are at they aasota a

5246
02:59:55,615 --> 02:59:57,615
key north a

5247
02:59:58,980 --> 03:00:00,647
they are all n comble.

5248
03:00:00,647 --> 03:00:02,531
They are lal and t

5249
03:00:02,531 --> 03:00:04,480
for unionkers was w

5250
03:00:04,480 --> 03:00:05,815
tasie p

5251
03:00:05,815 --> 03:00:09,415
them to g are the bigge

5252
03:00:10,697 --> 03:00:12,697
bett pces.

5253
03:00:12,965 --> 03:00:14,965
Leagu cit

5254
03:00:16,970 --> 03:00:17,148
longbo aolde cy.

5255
03:00:17,148 --> 03:00:18,631
Anhrassed t

5256
03:00:18,631 --> 03:00:20,631
the hatheverage home

5257
03:00:21,797 --> 03:00:23,797
over a milonollars

5258
03:00:24,650 --> 03:00:27,665
thatot o c and our pay

5259
03:00:29,131 --> 03:00:32,731
n't g to matchtnd, ourse,heounty

5260
03:00:33,150 --> 03:00:35,847
is muc lar entity.There onl a of the

5261
03:00:35,847 --> 03:00:37,847
goldenin ttate

5262
03:00:42,247 --> 03:00:44,697
whe the average is a milon dollarspalmch is aer oneif we

5263
03:00:44,697 --> 03:00:44,880
are elvesohere,

5264
03:00:44,880 --> 03:00:46,880
ss.

5265
03:00:46,997 --> 03:00:48,313
Bestefitsnybody had.

5266
03:00:48,313 --> 03:00:50,313
Naples isther one.

5267
03:00:50,498 --> 03:00:51,880
Now aoldenity.

5268
03:00:51,880 --> 03:00:54,280
Any ferences tm I

5269
03:00:55,114 --> 03:00:56,330
evalting whataysot

5270
03:00:56,330 --> 03:00:58,330
fairthe f venice.

5271
03:00:58,997 --> 03:01:02,597
So I o the of t

5272
03:01:06,930 --> 03:01:08,640
I dik leagu citie -- I dn't dot thesoisticated s our pole

5273
03:01:08,640 --> 03:01:09,764
y di where the

5274
03:01:09,764 --> 03:01:11,764
tuallyookingt,hey

5275
03:01:13,181 --> 03:01:14,764
alsoe sealesid,

5276
03:01:14,764 --> 03:01:15,631
are t astal city and

5277
03:01:15,631 --> 03:01:17,631
gs likhat.

5278
03:01:19,397 --> 03:01:22,970
Ust ask for a n basicmeas

5279
03:01:22,970 --> 03:01:24,363
n you giv t f

5280
03:01:24,363 --> 03:01:27,348
everyby, every city in the

5281
03:01:27,348 --> 03:01:29,348
st witopulatn ben

5282
03:01:30,331 --> 03:01:31,297
25,000nd 30?

5283
03:01:31,297 --> 03:01:33,697
Thate onther w o

5284
03:01:34,714 --> 03:01:36,480
trying to find ces.

5285
03:01:36,480 --> 03:01:39,480
And in that,idn't fin

5286
03:01:42,497 --> 03:01:44,497
anythilly line

5287
03:01:44,531 --> 03:01:46,531
ty merityrk, but

5288
03:01:46,681 --> 03:01:48,464
ere the hstfnybody

5289
03:01:48,464 --> 03:01:50,464
al expses.

5290
03:01:51,130 --> 03:01:53,130
So I jt-wantnformaon

5291
03:01:56,447 --> 03:01:56,847
like t sat we canaluat ae award

5292
03:01:56,847 --> 03:01:58,847
inses.

5293
03:02:01,381 --> 03:02:01,547
And thenyt quen for

5294
03:02:01,547 --> 03:02:03,231
you.

5295
03:02:03,231 --> 03:02:04,413
Idn've u any

5296
03:02:04,413 --> 03:02:06,413
infoonegal fees.

5297
03:02:06,997 --> 03:02:08,563
Esss because have

5298
03:02:08,563 --> 03:02:09,163
coract,otn e

5299
03:02:09,163 --> 03:02:10,964
don't und

5300
03:02:10,964 --> 03:02:12,747
youmeluatio

5301
03:02:12,747 --> 03:02:15,181
in there, s I ass w would

5302
03:02:15,181 --> 03:02:17,581
be loo them tame

5303
03:02:19,330 --> 03:02:20,464
we d loo at the cleand city nager.

5304
03:02:20,464 --> 03:02:21,413
An Bulck: in m vw,

5305
03:02:21,413 --> 03:02:23,413
rtainl thisiscun I

5306
03:02:23,431 --> 03:02:24,614
nothg to do whe

5307
03:02:24,614 --> 03:02:26,614
es forhey.

5308
03:02:28,396 --> 03:02:29,970
E a co you

5309
03:02:29,970 --> 03:02:31,970
rately

5310
03:02:31,614 --> 03:02:33,614
is discussayso

5311
03:02:34,197 --> 03:02:36,147
deci the chart off pay

5312
03:02:36,147 --> 03:02:38,147
fothelerk the m

5313
03:02:39,948 --> 03:02:41,730
tion terms of inf

5314
03:02:41,730 --> 03:02:43,164
provid mn, I from

5315
03:02:43,164 --> 03:02:44,264
tandt, perhaps

5316
03:02:44,264 --> 03:02:46,264
insu, bu youook

5317
03:02:46,664 --> 03:02:48,664
th aachmenthat ided

5318
03:02:48,931 --> 03:02:50,931
om stawide survehich

5319
03:02:53,546 --> 03:02:55,546
come anny thebliciatiyou'll

5320
03:02:57,431 --> 03:02:59,781
seeozen a dozens oities,

5321
03:02:59,781 --> 03:03:01,781
alh theer and

5322
03:03:05,832 --> 03:03:07,630
clernd the are

5323
03:03:07,630 --> 03:03:08,281
, kindfoand

5324
03:03:08,281 --> 03:03:09,347
y exactou thinkwould

5325
03:03:09,347 --> 03:03:11,347
beking

5326
03:03:14,681 --> 03:03:15,563
I doe a morfic

5327
03:03:15,563 --> 03:03:17,346
ce fthe cncil as t

5328
03:03:17,346 --> 03:03:18,397
what you m bookior at

5329
03:03:18,397 --> 03:03:19,964
this point

5330
03:03:19,964 --> 03:03:21,231
>>n Smith: I m to be

5331
03:03:21,231 --> 03:03:22,796
fang younhis.

5332
03:03:22,796 --> 03:03:24,796
I'maulting process

5333
03:03:27,463 --> 03:03:31,630
ve asks t parcipateand we'venot toot.

5334
03:03:32,780 --> 03:03:35,180
I'm mingse pointor m

5335
03:03:35,964 --> 03:03:36,964
gues tc

5336
03:03:36,964 --> 03:03:38,964
excusi behav

5337
03:03:39,447 --> 03:03:40,146
thyou.

5338
03:03:40,146 --> 03:03:41,314
>>Alck:'re wcome.

5339
03:03:41,314 --> 03:03:42,197
Youe toear f

5340
03:03:42,197 --> 03:03:43,197
tudy

5341
03:03:43,197 --> 03:03:44,330
I ve thoserabl if

5342
03:03:44,330 --> 03:03:46,330
of I

5343
03:03:46,597 --> 03:03:48,679
is was n generednime

5344
03:03:48,679 --> 03:03:50,130
lly yething

5345
03:03:50,130 --> 03:03:53,130
itten r the aut I

5346
03:03:53,396 --> 03:03:54,564
have iwee a t of cparable

5347
03:03:54,564 --> 03:03:56,564
cies that we ideified in

5348
03:03:56,564 --> 03:03:58,564
that p sdy.

5349
03:03:59,197 --> 03:04:01,597
Re cocoa b, fernaina

5350
03:04:04,548 --> 03:04:05,297
ach, newa bepiggk, s augustinetuar

5351
03:04:05,297 --> 03:04:06,564
and ro beach.

5352
03:04:06,564 --> 03:04:06,815
E arehe eig're

5353
03:04:06,815 --> 03:04:08,280
loing at.

5354
03:04:08,280 --> 03:04:10,280
Havehe indiduals, I

5355
03:04:10,780 --> 03:04:13,780
will tell you the aor

5356
03:04:13,947 --> 03:04:15,947
the 8, all ofhem

5357
03:04:18,480 --> 03:04:20,480
yesterday citanager,

5358
03:04:21,380 --> 03:04:23,380
is $21806.

5359
03:04:26,830 --> 03:04:29,230
The for city cleis $121,

5360
03:04:41,915 --> 03:04:42,880
so that's 21 and 121,854.

5361
03:04:42,880 --> 03:04:44,880
Yor Paota: anyonlse

5362
03:04:49,629 --> 03:04:50,765
have que f block?

5363
03:04:50,765 --> 03:04:53,247
E onlhing iant to cla

5364
03:04:53,247 --> 03:04:54,730
th youn, real quick I've

5365
03:04:54,730 --> 03:04:55,948
tough seven yea

5366
03:04:55,948 --> 03:04:58,147
doin comparabl and not d

5367
03:04:58,147 --> 03:05:00,547
evaionsnd all thesend o

5368
03:05:00,862 --> 03:05:02,862
I've got emploesrk

5369
03:05:03,797 --> 03:05:05,797
for mny f.

5370
03:05:07,970 --> 03:05:09,970
Myshat ieed

5371
03:05:09,148 --> 03:05:10,230
isu crect mef I'm

5372
03:05:10,230 --> 03:05:12,380
wr, ink cit of

5373
03:05:12,380 --> 03:05:14,380
I pfectmple.

5374
03:05:14,764 --> 03:05:17,262
Believ their city clerkas a

5375
03:05:17,262 --> 03:05:17,397
nanciacomponento w

5376
03:05:17,397 --> 03:05:19,397
do

5377
03:05:20,479 --> 03:05:23,479
tnkrollnd clerkdities aoss th state

5378
03:05:23,679 --> 03:05:25,380
run inthe same situaonwher cityanager m be

5379
03:05:25,380 --> 03:05:27,290
resible r the entity,

5380
03:05:27,290 --> 03:05:28,162
however not he

5381
03:05:28,162 --> 03:05:29,948
sod waste div

5382
03:05:29,948 --> 03:05:30,297
ey MAY not hav a water

5383
03:05:30,297 --> 03:05:31,646
depart

5384
03:05:31,646 --> 03:05:33,697
MAY n have lothese

5385
03:05:33,697 --> 03:05:35,697
depants.

5386
03:05:37,313 --> 03:05:38,797
So the'slly aifficu findi a tles

5387
03:05:38,797 --> 03:05:40,313
wheneomparing city

5388
03:05:40,313 --> 03:05:42,313
noth

5389
03:05:42,497 --> 03:05:44,497
cficati of a pol

5390
03:05:44,497 --> 03:05:46,497
ofr theertition of

5391
03:05:47,429 --> 03:05:49,130
emt or pamedicefig

5392
03:05:49,130 --> 03:05:50,880
whis standhink

5393
03:05:50,880 --> 03:05:54,480
it a lr fs to look

5394
03:05:55,230 --> 03:05:58,212
at tho positions sam with

5395
03:05:58,212 --> 03:05:59,196
evublicorks or afscme I

5396
03:05:59,196 --> 03:06:01,196
complicatese ye

5397
03:06:01,679 --> 03:06:02,630
ookt whurdl driver

5398
03:06:02,630 --> 03:06:03,913
should paids

5399
03:06:03,913 --> 03:06:05,463
necessarildyho just

5400
03:06:05,463 --> 03:06:07,463
operates ack, you

5401
03:06:09,963 --> 03:06:12,963
and ihinkshere thingt lite complated.

5402
03:06:13,130 --> 03:06:14,263
Yo looktur ulitiesogra and cerin com

5403
03:06:14,263 --> 03:06:16,663
certicates, wh lev c

5404
03:06:16,897 --> 03:06:18,897
tevermay f

5405
03:06:19,164 --> 03:06:20,164
stewater.Hink it g kind o

5406
03:06:20,164 --> 03:06:21,596
licaand whave to k

5407
03:06:21,596 --> 03:06:22,763
thn mdnking

5408
03:06:22,763 --> 03:06:24,346
at t positns.

5409
03:06:24,346 --> 03:06:25,562
Far a even lega sers,

5410
03:06:25,562 --> 03:06:27,562
ich e neall

5411
03:06:29,830 --> 03:06:33,230
ev rigow, I loo as,l,e cities

5412
03:06:33,230 --> 03:06:35,646
some cous have their oattorns and somem hndfuf a.

5413
03:06:35,646 --> 03:06:37,163
We hav a contrt with anatto.

5414
03:06:37,163 --> 03:06:39,429
Would you sayhats kind of

5415
03:06:39,429 --> 03:06:40,130
ass oyarts

5416
03:06:40,130 --> 03:06:42,530
at it' reallylt f

5417
03:06:42,863 --> 03:06:43,729
us to d apples a

5418
03:06:43,729 --> 03:06:45,729
it'sr ancil mber

5419
03:06:47,363 --> 03:06:48,313
o theiresea

5420
03:06:48,313 --> 03:06:51,313
Alan Block: in t of

5421
03:06:52,463 --> 03:06:53,246
hr, spendfe ev

5422
03:06:53,246 --> 03:06:54,863
daying t establish t

5423
03:06:54,863 --> 03:06:56,863
shat, whe this

5424
03:06:58,880 --> 03:07:00,396
program orhis situationrthisitionersus that of

5425
03:07:00,396 --> 03:07:02,796
a ci o ent

5426
03:07:02,796 --> 03:07:04,796
itirtual impossi to

5427
03:07:05,113 --> 03:07:06,280
t ect much.

5428
03:07:06,280 --> 03:07:07,579
Some l theelves mor

5429
03:07:07,579 --> 03:07:09,579
readil tirect cparison,

5430
03:07:09,680 --> 03:07:11,163
poicer fighter

5431
03:07:11,163 --> 03:07:12,680
the, badly

5432
03:07:12,680 --> 03:07:14,680
spking isponsib

5433
03:07:15,262 --> 03:07:16,396
niston of e city,

5434
03:07:16,396 --> 03:07:17,963
whater that e is.

5435
03:07:17,963 --> 03:07:18,180
Ny tim we'ook at

5436
03:07:18,180 --> 03:07:20,180
ages.

5437
03:07:22,146 --> 03:07:26,346
That's look a wlest oosit ole list

5438
03:07:27,331 --> 03:07:28,546
ofgencies, bausene m n

5439
03:07:28,546 --> 03:07:29,113
be direcy comparab

5440
03:07:29,113 --> 03:07:31,113
another.

5441
03:07:33,479 --> 03:07:34,396
Myouookt the average a whole,umin all a

5442
03:07:34,396 --> 03:07:35,146
releva morccurat a

5443
03:07:35,146 --> 03:07:37,146
e yoet.

5444
03:07:38,363 --> 03:07:39,629
At tndthe dss

5445
03:07:39,629 --> 03:07:41,629
ovideds g

5446
03:07:41,946 --> 03:07:43,496
youoaveactors that

5447
03:07:43,496 --> 03:07:43,678
mao you decion

5448
03:07:43,678 --> 03:07:45,163
today.

5449
03:07:45,163 --> 03:07:47,790
There' per w of doi

5450
03:07:47,790 --> 03:07:49,346
thinke probably all des

5451
03:07:49,346 --> 03:07:50,446
it difntly if wet t

5452
03:07:50,446 --> 03:07:52,446
our indi des.

5453
03:07:53,663 --> 03:07:55,746
Just aion ofexibnd making the best

5454
03:07:55,746 --> 03:07:57,746
formedecision yotatarticur time.

5455
03:07:58,229 --> 03:08:01,229
Mayochota:ny othquessor alan beforwe

5456
03:08:01,628 --> 03:08:02,913
a moon?

5457
03:08:02,913 --> 03:08:04,646
Allight.

5458
03:08:04,646 --> 03:08:06,646
If you pushingrn,

5459
03:08:06,996 --> 03:08:07,395
unfoy, tystem is not

5460
03:08:07,395 --> 03:08:09,395
rkin

5461
03:08:09,529 --> 03:08:10,278
yoll have taand rse

5462
03:08:10,278 --> 03:08:12,678
cause can't seenyth on

5463
03:08:15,895 --> 03:08:17,196
the scr

5464
03:08:17,196 --> 03:08:18,596
>>Rank: a qstion

5465
03:08:18,596 --> 03:08:20,428
fo MR. Bulck.

5466
03:08:20,428 --> 03:08:21,460
Ju wheyou are readyor ation

5467
03:08:21,460 --> 03:08:23,446
Mayor Pach reaor a

5468
03:08:26,960 --> 03:08:27,813
motion.

5469
03:08:27,813 --> 03:08:29,363
>>Rachel fy.

5470
03:08:29,363 --> 03:08:32,363
I, as aing t for

5471
03:08:32,578 --> 03:08:34,578
discussion me ardhe

5472
03:08:36,513 --> 03:08:38,612
city crk and the cy

5473
03:08:38,612 --> 03:08:40,612
% inc to beary.

5474
03:08:41,296 --> 03:08:43,960
>>Mayor Paecon

5475
03:08:43,960 --> 03:08:45,960
let's go toiscussn.

5476
03:08:46,950 --> 03:08:47,313
Ie somiscussion. You have-

5477
03:08:47,313 --> 03:08:48,413
el f: yeahjust a

5478
03:08:48,413 --> 03:08:50,413
ick cment.

5479
03:08:50,513 --> 03:08:52,363
Hr wolleag, MR.

5480
03:08:52,363 --> 03:08:54,363
Smith iringut taper

5481
03:08:59,460 --> 03:08:59,963
conns,ut youwere no theivid

5482
03:08:59,963 --> 03:09:01,963
converi hithhe

5483
03:09:02,946 --> 03:09:05,346
ty clerk ah cit

5484
03:09:06,345 --> 03:09:07,478
nageere iharedh themfrom m vantagent how

5485
03:09:07,478 --> 03:09:09,478
pleased ieir

5486
03:09:10,379 --> 03:09:12,379
performanc the lastr

5487
03:09:12,730 --> 03:09:15,730
and how I isy missionmake

5488
03:09:16,995 --> 03:09:19,361
su t the f valnd

5489
03:09:19,361 --> 03:09:21,361
apprectednions t

5490
03:09:23,546 --> 03:09:26,728
theiperformancandn also I wou thety's bt interesn m

5491
03:09:26,728 --> 03:09:28,295
ion toake sur we'reepin with cpi and

5492
03:09:28,295 --> 03:09:30,295
incrsingire sy

5493
03:09:32,262 --> 03:09:34,112
apriatel

5494
03:09:34,112 --> 03:09:36,512
that's kin bacund to

5495
03:09:36,529 --> 03:09:37,579
whe I'm

5496
03:09:37,579 --> 03:09:39,579
Pach I'l just

5497
03:09:40,945 --> 03:09:42,450
om m pective I'vesid t and I saidhiso

5498
03:09:42,450 --> 03:09:44,445
the new agern he

5499
03:09:44,762 --> 03:09:47,129
came in, I I'veot s

5500
03:09:47,129 --> 03:09:48,311
toriti,litel

5501
03:09:48,311 --> 03:09:49,962
ve you the rpecto

5502
03:09:49,962 --> 03:09:51,962
criticiz inr off

5503
03:09:55,229 --> 03:09:56,662
an if we an emplo

5504
03:09:56,662 --> 03:09:58,512
st com to t on

5505
03:09:58,512 --> 03:09:59,279
, thentayto g out

5506
03:09:59,279 --> 03:10:01,279
the couil.

5507
03:10:02,896 --> 03:10:05,279
Ry raryn sev yea have evead to bring tut

5508
03:10:05,279 --> 03:10:05,696
to thehatldn'te

5509
03:10:05,696 --> 03:10:07,696
resolved.

5510
03:10:08,562 --> 03:10:09,960
Y a perform related

5511
03:10:09,960 --> 03:10:11,110
object

5512
03:10:11,110 --> 03:10:12,712
so thathinkhat o

5513
03:10:12,712 --> 03:10:14,196
cler de pl job

5514
03:10:14,196 --> 03:10:15,629
I t tha oity manager

5515
03:10:15,629 --> 03:10:16,595
ha done ahenomelob.

5516
03:10:16,595 --> 03:10:18,495
I h thebers

5517
03:10:18,495 --> 03:10:20,895
lile bit becau knowe're

5518
03:10:21,695 --> 03:10:23,561
lookintowards t fut as

5519
03:10:23,561 --> 03:10:25,961
far tax chaes, and'm

5520
03:10:27,796 --> 03:10:31,944
looking kee thing tigound he asar a ourts.

5521
03:10:31,944 --> 03:10:34,162
I think tt cpis aery

5522
03:10:34,162 --> 03:10:36,290
number.Thinhat years t com

5523
03:10:36,290 --> 03:10:38,211
you have o a little

5524
03:10:38,211 --> 03:10:41,211
but tha with whe o

5525
03:10:42,950 --> 03:10:43,662
ci managerlerk current

5526
03:10:43,662 --> 03:10:45,579
e, ihink theairl

5527
03:10:45,579 --> 03:10:46,629
cosated d tha api

5528
03:10:46,629 --> 03:10:47,845
adjuouldeep the

5529
03:10:47,845 --> 03:10:49,845
thin that.

5530
03:10:50,229 --> 03:10:51,728
I wou aeeith MS. Fnk's

5531
03:10:51,728 --> 03:10:54,128
nd w be votin

5532
03:10:58,179 --> 03:10:59,912
vor of it.Anyolse, y'll traisour handse cannoseethe sn.

5533
03:10:59,912 --> 03:11:01,445
Smi

5534
03:11:01,445 --> 03:11:02,394
>>Ron ith: I to vot

5535
03:11:02,394 --> 03:11:04,394
thisn.

5536
03:11:05,230 --> 03:11:07,278
Ihink a m raise.

5537
03:11:07,278 --> 03:11:08,595
Again,llfy c were

5538
03:11:08,595 --> 03:11:10,595
at pcess.

5539
03:11:10,862 --> 03:11:11,611
Don't ink we'rehe

5540
03:11:11,611 --> 03:11:13,611
roce

5541
03:11:16,661 --> 03:11:18,929
andryboan h arivatesatibut public

5542
03:11:18,929 --> 03:11:20,929
deserves hear wha

5543
03:11:21,280 --> 03:11:23,680
y in t wayfform.

5544
03:11:24,845 --> 03:11:27,595
Ever emploe in theityts terformce evaluat

5545
03:11:27,595 --> 03:11:29,595
e thro notecausee

5546
03:11:30,345 --> 03:11:31,829
de as theirervi to

5547
03:11:31,829 --> 03:11:33,829
give o

5548
03:11:34,950 --> 03:11:36,950
an it'sot enougny

5549
03:11:36,395 --> 03:11:37,146
al t t someby

5550
03:11:37,146 --> 03:11:39,146
eir ghts.

5551
03:11:39,195 --> 03:11:39,763
It hascusss

5552
03:11:39,763 --> 03:11:41,763
gr

5553
03:11:43,162 --> 03:11:43,346
an it usu I o

5554
03:11:43,346 --> 03:11:45,346
es.

5555
03:11:45,762 --> 03:11:47,345
I justt drawtion

5556
03:11:47,345 --> 03:11:49,345
th

5557
03:11:50,529 --> 03:11:52,529
this budget

5558
03:11:57,620 --> 03:12:00,546
ussiike thi wishhe couldrecoer andthe f

5559
03:12:00,546 --> 03:12:02,546
ha publissio about

5560
03:12:03,178 --> 03:12:04,346
perfof threeple

5561
03:12:04,346 --> 03:12:04,845
that repirecto the

5562
03:12:04,845 --> 03:12:06,162
col.

5563
03:12:06,162 --> 03:12:08,162
Evritymployee get

5564
03:12:08,445 --> 03:12:10,445
kind luat

5565
03:12:11,620 --> 03:12:13,620
ustmper tme.

5566
03:12:16,779 --> 03:12:19,245
We wenthrough agthyterv proceo our

5567
03:12:19,245 --> 03:12:21,245
cityager.

5568
03:12:24,745 --> 03:12:26,361
We did many ts inublic.And th is the k tngatuld ocr ilic as

5569
03:12:26,361 --> 03:12:29,195
well I a fra discuion of

5570
03:12:29,195 --> 03:12:29,845
at we'reoing.At a rate,ctually go

5571
03:12:29,845 --> 03:12:31,112
to vote I

5572
03:12:31,112 --> 03:12:33,112
thk you.

5573
03:12:38,312 --> 03:12:39,262
Yor ota: aone else?

5574
03:12:39,262 --> 03:12:40,450
Th goio work.

5575
03:12:40,450 --> 03:12:41,528
It oka

5576
03:12:41,528 --> 03:12:43,928
thnly thing I clo

5577
03:12:44,578 --> 03:12:45,495
wis jus that, you

5578
03:12:45,495 --> 03:12:46,927
absoluee wh your

5579
03:12:46,927 --> 03:12:49,844
ruggle on t one, m smi.

5580
03:12:49,844 --> 03:12:50,895
I thatormald,

5581
03:12:50,895 --> 03:12:52,895
ths meri tot.

5582
03:12:53,461 --> 03:12:54,778
I he pro dinitelyould change, don't t

5583
03:12:54,778 --> 03:12:55,695
itd necesrily chang

5584
03:12:55,695 --> 03:12:57,695
making mandato

5585
03:12:57,962 --> 03:12:59,877
think I should go awa far

5586
03:12:59,877 --> 03:13:01,362
rman appals

5587
03:13:01,362 --> 03:13:03,610
ecern

5588
03:13:03,610 --> 03:13:05,610
seindivial peof

5589
03:13:06,462 --> 03:13:07,812
which maye aanagemt

5590
03:13:07,812 --> 03:13:09,812
backgrou per comin

5591
03:13:10,428 --> 03:13:12,128
in h bd to

5592
03:13:12,128 --> 03:13:14,128
prerly evaluebod o

5593
03:13:15,178 --> 03:13:15,745
th perfoance I think ian

5594
03:13:15,745 --> 03:13:17,260
unfa etation

5595
03:13:17,260 --> 03:13:18,360
I theption ss

5596
03:13:18,360 --> 03:13:21,360
been a grehing, if so

5597
03:13:21,528 --> 03:13:23,595
nts to use ias aand

5598
03:13:23,595 --> 03:13:25,595
rougat pross.

5599
03:13:26,445 --> 03:13:28,445
Ey aret-wimplo.

5600
03:13:30,478 --> 03:13:31,129
we can termite them at any

5601
03:13:31,129 --> 03:13:32,561
time wo.

5602
03:13:32,561 --> 03:13:33,961
Ifetshat levels

5603
03:13:33,961 --> 03:13:34,228
ere public cion

5604
03:13:34,228 --> 03:13:35,495
ha

5605
03:13:35,495 --> 03:13:36,628
n't tnk we nto go

5606
03:13:36,628 --> 03:13:38,628
throh aess.

5607
03:13:39,545 --> 03:13:40,678
That's my opinioni erage a m cagues to

5608
03:13:40,678 --> 03:13:42,678
follow whar procerings

5609
03:13:42,860 --> 03:13:43,280
ce ahe end of th

5610
03:13:43,280 --> 03:13:45,280
y.

5611
03:13:46,261 --> 03:13:49,261
I ike I c easytify

5612
03:13:49,878 --> 03:13:51,445
my d to give them a rseon cpi

5613
03:13:51,445 --> 03:13:53,445
thi t againiould

5614
03:13:54,278 --> 03:13:57,278
mpha thaturlerk,ouattorney, and oity

5615
03:13:58,280 --> 03:14:01,280
managehaveery weleretrs, a I'm very

5616
03:14:02,211 --> 03:14:03,695
pleawithheirecti we'readin

5617
03:14:03,695 --> 03:14:04,979
madaerk, bng our

5618
03:14:04,979 --> 03:14:06,678
em isown, we'ahea

5619
03:14:06,678 --> 03:14:09,678
an a rcall ve if'd

5620
03:14:09,961 --> 03:14:10,711
like

5621
03:14:10,711 --> 03:14:12,345
>>Ri Howard: yes.

5622
03:14:12,345 --> 03:14:13,928
>>Rank:.

5623
03:14:13,928 --> 03:14:15,727
>>Ron Sm.

5624
03:14:15,727 --> 03:14:16,911
>>Lld Weed: y

5625
03:14:16,911 --> 03:14:18,911
>>Kevin Enes.

5626
03:14:19,280 --> 03:14:19,895
>>Viceoldtes.

5627
03:14:19,895 --> 03:14:20,877
>>Mar Pachota:

5628
03:14:20,877 --> 03:14:22,428
ssesnanily.

5629
03:14:22,428 --> 03:14:24,428
[Soundi]

5630
03:14:27,878 --> 03:14:29,878
Gav tap there

5631
03:14:32,161 --> 03:14:34,161
we a on 0711

5632
03:14:35,645 --> 03:14:36,695
ans going to be

5633
03:14:36,695 --> 03:14:38,695
MS. Witpprove cha

5634
03:14:39,527 --> 03:14:41,527
calr 20 budt

5635
03:14:43,144 --> 03:14:44,228
sincbudget wor

5636
03:14:44,228 --> 03:14:45,360
>>Jame: ma if iay

5637
03:14:45,360 --> 03:14:46,327
haple oning

5638
03:14:46,327 --> 03:14:47,511
commen.

5639
03:14:47,511 --> 03:14:48,644
>>Mayor Paou a n on

5640
03:14:48,644 --> 03:14:50,377
the ageacket,our

5641
03:14:50,377 --> 03:14:51,294
raisd b h.

5642
03:14:51,294 --> 03:14:52,644
I'm kiddi

5643
03:14:52,644 --> 03:14:53,912
gohead, mr.Linch, if y

5644
03:14:53,912 --> 03:14:55,280
like

5645
03:14:55,280 --> 03:14:58,127
mes ch: thk you, sirthanu,ir.

5646
03:14:58,127 --> 03:14:59,378
Wtedo ct linda

5647
03:14:59,378 --> 03:15:01,780
urirec.

5648
03:15:01,780 --> 03:15:02,845
This was n a sim exee.

5649
03:15:02,845 --> 03:15:04,711
This wasn exercisee

5650
03:15:04,711 --> 03:15:06,777
had t gative a bac

5651
03:15:06,777 --> 03:15:07,294
througreallyhe

5652
03:15:07,294 --> 03:15:09,294
budget.

5653
03:15:10,177 --> 03:15:12,261
What in front o tod is

5654
03:15:12,261 --> 03:15:14,261
20 dif items affects

5655
03:15:14,528 --> 03:15:16,528
d departmen

5656
03:15:18,828 --> 03:15:22,794
I d ask you privilegeto tghtem her

5657
03:15:22,794 --> 03:15:23,160
its a le b

5658
03:15:23,160 --> 03:15:24,160
ique

5659
03:15:24,160 --> 03:15:26,160
ippreciatedy comg to

5660
03:15:26,160 --> 03:15:28,160
eableeaming,

5661
03:15:30,393 --> 03:15:31,528
le wo tmake

5662
03:15:31,528 --> 03:15:32,311
-- lice offic a r

5663
03:15:32,311 --> 03:15:34,311
have done t

5664
03:15:34,693 --> 03:15:36,693
seingresent to

5665
03:15:39,440 --> 03:15:41,728
y do provideencertreas torovior the

5666
03:15:41,728 --> 03:15:44,728
two tra offics whi we

5667
03:15:44,861 --> 03:15:45,128
wereected to t

5668
03:15:45,128 --> 03:15:47,128
accomp

5669
03:15:48,145 --> 03:15:49,877
and it als inceire

5670
03:15:49,877 --> 03:15:50,444
assessmeffin stu as

5671
03:15:50,444 --> 03:15:51,577
well.

5672
03:15:51,577 --> 03:15:53,395
So thotems in there

5673
03:15:53,395 --> 03:15:54,794
somesuts.

5674
03:15:54,794 --> 03:15:56,611
It thrhifting

5675
03:15:56,611 --> 03:15:58,294
some fund andovin

5676
03:15:58,294 --> 03:15:58,728
pro soment

5677
03:15:58,728 --> 03:16:00,611
acco

5678
03:16:00,611 --> 03:16:00,811
inda will thrll

5679
03:16:00,811 --> 03:16:01,911
that.

5680
03:16:01,911 --> 03:16:04,128
Ust ed to h h

5681
03:16:04,128 --> 03:16:06,244
nd all ofirecto tomaket hapn.

5682
03:16:06,244 --> 03:16:08,244
Th

5683
03:16:08,494 --> 03:16:10,494
>>Linda his I

5684
03:16:10,661 --> 03:16:13,610
of thee jul bud

5685
03:16:15,294 --> 03:16:17,561
worksh discussio aings tha w disvered aftthat

5686
03:16:17,561 --> 03:16:19,561
we our JULstropert

5687
03:16:19,911 --> 03:16:21,911
valuohat inced the

5688
03:16:23,127 --> 03:16:25,127
eted r fropert

5689
03:16:25,144 --> 03:16:26,710
$110, sohat'so

5690
03:16:26,710 --> 03:16:28,710
genalund.

5691
03:16:28,910 --> 03:16:30,593
We also,e had theget

5692
03:16:30,593 --> 03:16:32,461
worksh, we receid notice o

5693
03:16:32,461 --> 03:16:33,627
grant forhe golde bea

5694
03:16:33,627 --> 03:16:35,328
oricurvey.

5695
03:16:35,328 --> 03:16:37,328
Reas budge revues

5696
03:16:37,611 --> 03:16:38,726
enerund 41,60

5697
03:16:38,726 --> 03:16:39,827
eady the exp I

5698
03:16:39,827 --> 03:16:41,827
the under hliety,

5699
03:16:42,394 --> 03:16:44,276
bue hadlude the

5700
03:16:44,276 --> 03:16:45,527
venues, an just notic

5701
03:16:45,527 --> 03:16:46,627
the willeng t

5702
03:16:46,627 --> 03:16:48,627
gran fundingt.

5703
03:16:50,427 --> 03:16:52,561
So where the reven wilnto general fund.

5704
03:16:52,561 --> 03:16:53,461
Then wrece notic

5705
03:16:53,461 --> 03:16:55,726
ich isoing to go inthe

5706
03:16:55,726 --> 03:16:57,227
treeion fune applied

5707
03:16:57,227 --> 03:16:58,362
grant a back.

5708
03:16:58,362 --> 03:17:00,762
We reived notice the're

5709
03:17:02,544 --> 03:17:03,660
gointo get a025 c

5710
03:17:03,660 --> 03:17:06,600
ry dter rec gra

5711
03:17:08,426 --> 03:17:10,160
ram theree mitigatioanthat's60,2

5712
03:17:10,160 --> 03:17:11,394
goesnto t tre

5713
03:17:11,394 --> 03:17:12,694
mitiund that ll be

5714
03:17:12,694 --> 03:17:14,694
used tree ping.

5715
03:17:15,227 --> 03:17:16,930
So inc the and

5716
03:17:16,930 --> 03:17:18,930
thpenset wie furer

5717
03:17:23,161 --> 03:17:24,676
thnumber 4 ites the

5718
03:17:24,676 --> 03:17:26,676
rltsrthanges,

5719
03:17:28,610 --> 03:17:30,610
ease of 43,145 t

5720
03:17:35,277 --> 03:17:37,677
nerand.Andhen numbes wo

5721
03:17:39,600 --> 03:17:39,327
ded thenwoitionapolice

5722
03:17:39,327 --> 03:17:40,160
office.

5723
03:17:40,160 --> 03:17:42,560
Keind,re putng t

5724
03:17:43,177 --> 03:17:45,177
as a sanuasteactob

5725
03:17:47,677 --> 03:17:49,943
he tim they areired, 75%f theirt.

5726
03:17:49,943 --> 03:17:50,360
Thisatheurre sary

5727
03:17:50,360 --> 03:17:52,360
level.

5728
03:17:53,578 --> 03:17:55,978
Ne yeaorl ', ful

5729
03:17:57,460 --> 03:17:59,194
ed a 12, fornths

5730
03:17:59,194 --> 03:18:01,194
as the staanuary

5731
03:18:11,360 --> 03:18:13,360
ct is 9,918.

5732
03:18:13,728 --> 03:18:16,128
We lood atepartmts andid

5733
03:18:17,144 --> 03:18:19,430
a thoroughlysi oheline items t wt a

5734
03:18:19,430 --> 03:18:20,526
things we can reallcut and d

5735
03:18:20,526 --> 03:18:22,526
torl

5736
03:18:22,694 --> 03:18:24,900
wi that weucedvelnd

5737
03:18:24,900 --> 03:18:25,590
trng budt in the

5738
03:18:25,590 --> 03:18:26,244
manageice.

5739
03:18:26,244 --> 03:18:27,193
The affetreatas movedo

5740
03:18:27,193 --> 03:18:28,460
one day.

5741
03:18:28,460 --> 03:18:30,590
Wed to he it two days

5742
03:18:30,590 --> 03:18:30,777
an rovedheel

5743
03:18:30,777 --> 03:18:32,444
sts.

5744
03:18:32,444 --> 03:18:34,176
And we removede t

5745
03:18:34,176 --> 03:18:36,176
reimbursem fhe city

5746
03:18:36,827 --> 03:18:38,528
ger's fice andemoving

5747
03:18:38,528 --> 03:18:40,260
e stratnning

5748
03:18:40,260 --> 03:18:42,260
consultantcal '

5749
03:18:43,843 --> 03:18:45,940
when w our nexticanni we'll do it iuse

5750
03:18:45,940 --> 03:18:46,770
instea o havinutside

5751
03:18:46,770 --> 03:18:47,726
nt cg inping

5752
03:18:47,726 --> 03:18:49,726
us withhat.

5753
03:18:50,243 --> 03:18:51,559
Ovl, weook 29,500 o of

5754
03:18:51,559 --> 03:18:53,559
thcity manag budt.

5755
03:18:56,259 --> 03:18:58,259
Deease from budge

5756
03:18:59,659 --> 03:19:00,976
anhen educedrofenal

5757
03:19:00,976 --> 03:19:02,410
rviceshi htorica

5758
03:19:02,410 --> 03:19:04,410
reurce $1000

5759
03:19:05,628 --> 03:19:07,426
weed bac theondolier

5760
03:19:07,426 --> 03:19:08,859
digiza t fiscal8.

5761
03:19:08,859 --> 03:19:10,509
We'l put that o hold.

5762
03:19:10,509 --> 03:19:12,909
Doi that, ptn h

5763
03:19:13,126 --> 03:19:15,726
t itn fiscal 27ut pick

5764
03:19:15,726 --> 03:19:17,270
thack up fis 2

5765
03:19:17,270 --> 03:19:18,643
thatreast dol

5766
03:19:18,643 --> 03:19:20,643
amount $10.

5767
03:19:20,827 --> 03:19:23,227
Withhe pub w gen

5768
03:19:24,493 --> 03:19:25,926
tena wemoved

5769
03:19:25,926 --> 03:19:26,143
cora streehts.

5770
03:19:26,143 --> 03:19:28,143
$50.

5771
03:19:28,243 --> 03:19:29,727
That onhe when

5772
03:19:29,727 --> 03:19:31,727
our bt whop.

5773
03:19:32,293 --> 03:19:34,293
Remtecauseead

5774
03:19:34,727 --> 03:19:37,326
e t hcane and tg o

5775
03:19:37,326 --> 03:19:38,727
streghts, dativ

5776
03:19:38,727 --> 03:19:40,260
etli, pubks, th

5777
03:19:40,260 --> 03:19:41,427
ng of I sti had

5778
03:19:41,427 --> 03:19:43,327
reetts thad n get

5779
03:19:43,327 --> 03:19:45,327
put ce froefore.

5780
03:19:45,428 --> 03:19:46,226
So w haven hwe can

5781
03:19:46,226 --> 03:19:48,226
use.

5782
03:19:48,527 --> 03:19:48,727
L picks an fl

5783
03:19:48,727 --> 03:19:50,727
'28.

5784
03:19:50,927 --> 03:19:51,927
Th whye're ringm

5785
03:19:51,927 --> 03:19:53,926
scalecauhey ha

5786
03:19:53,926 --> 03:19:56,326
gh t accdate take

5787
03:19:56,727 --> 03:19:58,727
forcal '27

5788
03:20:00,260 --> 03:20:02,260
numbe 10,eed las

5789
03:20:02,527 --> 03:20:04,327
year put inthe bt, w

5790
03:20:04,327 --> 03:20:06,327
renged ced a

5791
03:20:07,826 --> 03:20:09,727
tionhinnginee andadded rantsrdinat

5792
03:20:09,727 --> 03:20:10,270
poon whi was 1 gal

5793
03:20:10,270 --> 03:20:11,725
ed.

5794
03:20:11,725 --> 03:20:13,242
Thene talbout tha

5795
03:20:13,242 --> 03:20:15,326
scussehat of t wor

5796
03:20:15,326 --> 03:20:16,426
thatterso I d sd

5797
03:20:16,426 --> 03:20:17,126
ly belto t stoter

5798
03:20:17,126 --> 03:20:18,726
fund.

5799
03:20:18,726 --> 03:20:19,842
Sore takinoney o oe

5800
03:20:19,842 --> 03:20:21,842
genefund.

5801
03:20:23,426 --> 03:20:25,226
We'llitund inday 60%

5802
03:20:25,226 --> 03:20:26,293
tormwaundnd 40%

5803
03:20:26,293 --> 03:20:28,293
rald.

5804
03:20:28,526 --> 03:20:29,443
She'ing fions f b

5805
03:20:29,443 --> 03:20:30,793
gen fand t

5806
03:20:30,793 --> 03:20:32,793
stormw fun

5807
03:20:33,426 --> 03:20:34,625
we'reecreg 52,1rom

5808
03:20:34,625 --> 03:20:36,625
neralund twille

5809
03:20:37,925 --> 03:20:40,325
d into the stoterd.

5810
03:20:41,126 --> 03:20:43,126
Th fornforonechny,

5811
03:20:44,726 --> 03:20:46,526
had I the we a

5812
03:20:46,526 --> 03:20:47,225
t-in ca smch was

5813
03:20:47,225 --> 03:20:48,492
fo0,00

5814
03:20:48,492 --> 03:20:49,525
wetakihat out the

5815
03:20:49,525 --> 03:20:51,525
nera fun

5816
03:20:51,943 --> 03:20:53,943
we hitywid as

5817
03:20:54,260 --> 03:20:55,226
cont systhatas $35

5818
03:20:55,226 --> 03:20:56,893
ery forhe nive

5819
03:20:56,893 --> 03:20:58,626
s.

5820
03:20:58,626 --> 03:20:59,526
D twee pssio

5821
03:20:59,526 --> 03:21:00,626
ices thoseject

5822
03:21:00,626 --> 03:21:01,692
inheeral f

5823
03:21:01,692 --> 03:21:04,692
're go to that of

5824
03:21:04,843 --> 03:21:07,526
geneund a I.T c

5825
03:21:07,526 --> 03:21:08,726
up wite t the look at

5826
03:21:08,726 --> 03:21:10,226
ese projeether a

5827
03:21:10,226 --> 03:21:12,260
it one bigroje ins

5828
03:21:12,260 --> 03:21:13,825
ofing tryt over

5829
03:21:13,825 --> 03:21:15,260
fiears doi littl

5830
03:21:15,260 --> 03:21:16,326
h a litbitere, a

5831
03:21:16,326 --> 03:21:18,250
li bit here,hat I I

5832
03:21:18,250 --> 03:21:19,825
goto c t d tle

5833
03:21:19,825 --> 03:21:20,926
ojectp frontnd twe c

5834
03:21:20,926 --> 03:21:21,926
ge it he cenales

5835
03:21:21,926 --> 03:21:23,926
tax.

5836
03:21:24,526 --> 03:21:26,526
'reakinhe 100ut o

5837
03:21:26,825 --> 03:21:28,930
the gener fundhen w

5838
03:21:28,930 --> 03:21:30,260
be ag expenithi the

5839
03:21:30,260 --> 03:21:31,826
e cenes t

5840
03:21:31,826 --> 03:21:33,326
foire, aecussed

5841
03:21:33,326 --> 03:21:35,260
rlieat we're add

5842
03:21:35,260 --> 03:21:37,260
prsionalvices fing

5843
03:21:37,126 --> 03:21:39,126
the assest anhe

5844
03:21:39,326 --> 03:21:40,726
affitudy,stim cost

5845
03:21:40,726 --> 03:21:40,993
120,0 foth ofse

5846
03:21:40,993 --> 03:21:42,126
o.

5847
03:21:42,126 --> 03:21:43,525
At w be two drent

5848
03:21:43,525 --> 03:21:45,420
ndors dthatecau

5849
03:21:45,420 --> 03:21:46,250
does t assent f and

5850
03:21:46,250 --> 03:21:46,926
othell beng t

5851
03:21:46,926 --> 03:21:48,926
affingdy.

5852
03:21:49,693 --> 03:21:51,326
Thatn este o,000.

5853
03:21:51,326 --> 03:21:53,326
Th bei aensedded

5854
03:21:55,327 --> 03:21:57,327
inenerald.

5855
03:21:57,625 --> 03:22:00,250
Thenber3, wn par w

5856
03:22:00,430 --> 03:22:01,125
ced scoor the ven

5857
03:22:01,125 --> 03:22:03,125
beac pavn r

5858
03:22:04,250 --> 03:22:04,994
we h500,00r t roo and

5859
03:22:04,994 --> 03:22:06,426
they goio ce the

5860
03:22:06,426 --> 03:22:07,226
e andesign do

5861
03:22:07,226 --> 03:22:09,226
someg diffe.

5862
03:22:09,726 --> 03:22:11,426
Sot dases thato

5863
03:22:11,426 --> 03:22:13,325
,000d thane iithin

5864
03:22:13,325 --> 03:22:15,425
e one centes fun

5865
03:22:15,425 --> 03:22:17,825
is dase fro tne

5866
03:22:18,126 --> 03:22:19,525
es t fun

5867
03:22:19,525 --> 03:22:21,493
infoionechnol I t

5868
03:22:21,493 --> 03:22:24,493
was a jul meeti we

5869
03:22:25,326 --> 03:22:27,125
lked aboutemov the.T.

5870
03:22:27,125 --> 03:22:28,826
Ice theipmeor

5871
03:22:28,826 --> 03:22:30,826
thackue,emov t

5872
03:22:31,926 --> 03:22:32,758
prtvaluatgain I

5873
03:22:32,758 --> 03:22:34,758
scal 2

5874
03:22:34,858 --> 03:22:36,858
so in cenal

5875
03:22:38,326 --> 03:22:39,476
fureng ten

5876
03:22:39,476 --> 03:22:41,476
1,

5877
03:22:41,826 --> 03:22:43,159
er5 ihe nroje for

5878
03:22:43,159 --> 03:22:44,526
t.Ddnhee'

5879
03:22:44,526 --> 03:22:46,526
reng cam sm

5880
03:22:47,750 --> 03:22:48,126
th cywidcces conol

5881
03:22:48,126 --> 03:22:50,126
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5882
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6224
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6225
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6271
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6272
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6273
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6274
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6275
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6276
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6277
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6279
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6280
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6281
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6282
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6283
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6284
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6285
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6286
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6287
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6288
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6289
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6290
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6291
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6292
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6293
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6294
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6295
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6296
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6297
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6298
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6299
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6301
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6302
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6303
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6305
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6307
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6308
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6309
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6310
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6311
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6312
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6313
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6314
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6316
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6317
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6318
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6319
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6320
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6321
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6323
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6324
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6325
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6326
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6327
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6328
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6329
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6330
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6331
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6332
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6333
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6334
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6335
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6336
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6337
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6338
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6339
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6340
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6341
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6342
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6343
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6344
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6345
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6346
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6347
03:40:27,455 --> 03:40:29,455
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6348
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6349
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