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Six, 9:30 a.m. calling the

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Ventura County Consolidated

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Oversight Board meeting to

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order. And we'll start off with

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the roll call. Good morning.

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Board member Bojorquez. Present

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board member Brooke. Here.

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Board member. Important. Here.

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Board member. Mitchell. Present.

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Board member. Simmons. Present.

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And chair, Mike Mitchell here.

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Thank you, thank you. Pledge of

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allegiance. James, can you lead

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us? Start us off. Right hand

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over your heart. Ready? Begin.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag

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of the United States of America.

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And to the Republic for which

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it stands. One nation under God,

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indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all. Next, Robert,

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do we have any changes to the

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agenda? Since there are no

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changes to the agenda, we don't

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need to make any actions.

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There's no changes. Okay. Thank

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you. Next is item number five,

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which is the meeting minutes

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from the previous meeting on

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October 22nd, 2025. Do I have

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any questions from any of the

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members on it? Do I have a

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motion? I'll make a motion to

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approve. Do I have a second?

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I'll second it. Okay. Thank you.

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All in favor, say aye. Aye. Any

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opposed? None. Motion passes

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six zero. Going on now to item

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number six. Public comment. Do

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we have anybody on the internet

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coming in this meeting is does

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not have an internet component,

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but there are no requests to

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speak. Okay. Thank you. Is

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there anybody here in the

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chamber who wants to speak at

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this time? Okay. Thank you. I

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see none. So going on to item

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number seven board comments. Do

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I have any board comments at

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this time? No, I see none. So

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we'll move on to number eight

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staff comments Robert, do we

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have any staff comments? Yes,

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just just one quick one. So the

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city of Santa Paula has been

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working on their final

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dissolution, and we were hoping

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that they would have wrapped it

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up by for this meeting so we

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could have addressed it. But

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they haven't been successful.

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So they're still working on it.

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And and I just wanted to let

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you know that we may have

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another meeting soon, but but

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within the schedule. But but

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you know, usually we have a

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little bit of a rest period at

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this time. But we may call a

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meeting coming up in the month.

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Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

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Okay. We're going to move on to

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the regular agenda number nine.

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We're going to be looking at

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the the city of Ventura is the

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city of Ventura.

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Representatives here for their

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presentation. Oh thank you.

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Good morning, chair and members

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of the board. My name is

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Heather bowling. I'm back again

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to see you in place of Joe

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Anthony. Carlos. Next slide

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please. You have a remote right

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in front of you. Thank you.

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Okay. So we're going to do a

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little update on site seven.

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And I have some information

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from the questions from last

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meeting. So for our RoPS. We

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submitted a total of 1.2

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million and $835. Most of it

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was for our our 1339043 and

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then the administrative total

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of $61,792. So for site seven.

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It's the two parcels that are

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located between California and

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Chestnut, north of Main Street.

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We did receive the appraisal

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just within the last week. And

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the the successor agency

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parcels came in at $2,075,000.

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The city Apns are 2,665,000. So

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the combined valuation of that

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whole parking lot is appraised

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at $4,740,000. You guys had a

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couple. Your board also had a

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couple questions regarding the

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lease. And right now there

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currently is no lease on the

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property. It was designated as

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temporary use. And it seems

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that since they designated the

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area as a parking lot, it's

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just continued indefinitely as

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a parking lot without a lease.

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And you asked about who pays

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the property tax? Well, because

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it's government property, it's

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nontaxable. And so it's exempt

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from property tax. So there's

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no tax being paid on it. The

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next step that we're going to

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do is in February or in between

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February and April, I'm

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thinking closer to April. We're

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going to take it to City

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Council and ask them to declare

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the property as surplus. And

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then we're going to continue to

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keep going through the next

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steps after they declared a

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surplus. I think our next

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process would be to do a notice

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of availability and continue in

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the Surplus Land Act process.

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And that's pretty much it for

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my presentation. Do you guys

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have any other questions or.

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Yeah. Ken. Yeah, I got a couple

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questions. So you have no lease

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in the property. Is is there

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any income on the property? No,

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we have no revenue that comes

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in on the property. And are

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there any expenses? Who sweeps

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it? Who cleans it? If there's a

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pothole, who fixes it? I don't

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I think the city maintains it.

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I there is some dumpsters. I

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don't know if you guys have

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ever been there, but the movie

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theater does have dumpsters in

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the back and there is always

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constantly popcorn butter that

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comes out. And there's so they

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probably maintain the city. The, movie theater probably

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maintains that portion of it,

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but there are no agreements to

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do it. So out of record, not

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that. Yeah. I mean, I can

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research this with our public

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works department and see if

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they maintain the parking lot

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or if they repave it. I don't

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think anybody's repaving it

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because I've seen it and it's

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in pretty bad condition. I'm

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not suggesting it's not. But if

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somebody trips and falls, who

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gets sued? I mean, somebody's

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got to be responsible for it.

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That's a good question. I'll

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have to ask our city attorney's

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office. Is this an operational

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question? And having no lease,

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no responsibility yet it's a former redevelopment

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property. It's got to be

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covered by I'm assuming the

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city would cover it in the

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meantime, but I'd like some

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definition. I guess it would

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depend which parcel they

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tripped and fell on, right?

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Yeah. If it was the RTA or the

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city property, but I can I can

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definitely bring these

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questions to our city

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attorney's office and bring

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back some information next time.

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And all I'm getting at is that

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it's it's a structural thing.

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It's a temporary structural

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thing. And I want to make a big

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issue of it. But, you know, I'm

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in the real estate business and

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there's always a an exposure

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and a cost, etcetera. And if

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there's no documentation, I

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just ask the basic questions.

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And I'm not trying to be

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difficult, just that somebody

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should, you know, take

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possession of it and, and be

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responsible for it and just get

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some answers, that's all. Well,

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you know, there are some

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different options. And we did

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since we did just get the

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appraisal back within the last

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week, city leadership is going

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to review it and, you know,

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discuss further. So we don't

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really have any updates from

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what city leadership is

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discussing about the property

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at this point. And if it's of

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your board that you would like

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me to research about seeing if

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there is some type of lease

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process that you would like us

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to look into with the the

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property, I don't know exactly

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how that would work, so I'd

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have to do research, and I

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would talk to your city

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attorney about those issues and

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what the solution is. I mean,

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there's a simple solution, I'm

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sure. But if it's if it's an

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entity that owns it, that's not

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the city, then they have to

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have responsibility for it. So

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if that entity has the

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insurance and everything else,

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it's not and it's already been

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resolved. I'm not trying to

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tell you what to do, but it's a

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question that should be asked.

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And absolutely. And I think

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it's within your purview to

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tell us what to do. Right? I

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don't know, I don't I don't

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want to go there. So if you if

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your board would like us to

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look into a lease, we can

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absolutely do that. Well, talk

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to your city attorney and

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whatever they recommend, come

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back with a suggestion. Okay.

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And what's the fallback plan

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for this? Is there a fallback

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plan after you go through all

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this? You should be. I'm just

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saying I'd like to see. I don't

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want to spend all a bunch of

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time going through all this

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process, and nothing happens at

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the end of it, and they still

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haven't. I'd like to see the

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city, you know, go through,

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plan A, which are going through

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the Surplus Land Act process.

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Yes. And then have a plan B

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available afterwards. I'd like

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to to have the city discuss

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that as an option. What's going

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to happen next if it, you know,

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what's the next step if that

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doesn't work, if that makes any

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sense. What I'm saying

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absolutely makes sense. And I

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know that right now we're just

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waiting for city leadership to

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discuss it because they're the

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people. They're they're going

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to be able to make the

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determinations of which process

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that we would take after the

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Surplus Land Act. I do have

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some information here that

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there is an option B city lease

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or purchase of property. And so

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there is information. And once

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I get an update from our city

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leadership of which direction

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they want to go, we can bring

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in another update here to you

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and let you know, like where

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we're at in the Surplus Land

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Act process and what the city

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is willing or able to do after

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that process. If that's not

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successful. Okay. Thank you. I

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just want them to be aware that,

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you know, I want this. I want

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them to have a plan B if

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possible, as are. So we don't

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spend another two years after,

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you know, if this takes 1 or 2

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years, it'd be nice to ha

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something, a plan B maybe in

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the background. And Robert, can

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we schedule a follow up if

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Santa Paula is going to come in

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at some point and if it ties in,

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if, can you just check in with

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the City of Ventura to see if

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they want to give us an update?

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At the same time, if we're

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going to have a meeting anyway?

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Yes, we could do that, you know,

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that's all. If they're not

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ready, then it doesn't matter.

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But I'm just saying if it works

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out, we can have. Have you come

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back the same time the city of

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Santa Paula comes back? Yeah,

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absolutely. For an update.

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Thank you. And we were hopeful

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to get the appraisal back

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sooner. But with the holidays

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and there was some delays. So

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we literally just got it I

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think earlier this week. So if

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we had got it back earlier,

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city leadership could have

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already had some discussions

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and we could have brought more

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of an update for you, but it

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just didn't work out that way.

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Now, let me ask a stupid

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question, Ken, because you know

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this stuff and I know I'm good,

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stupid questions, but okay,

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it's a parking lot. When they

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do the evaluation for the

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appraisal, is it appraised as a

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parking lot or is it as a

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potential development site?

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Well, I don't know. I haven't

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seen the appraisal, so I

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couldn't I couldn't advise you

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on that. There's an existing

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uses of a parking lot. There's

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existing zoning. It may have

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development rights. Really

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depends on what they where they

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go with that. And I'm guessing

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it's probably appraised more

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than a parking lot. That price

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point. Because there's the

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revenue income on that parking

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lot would not would not justify

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for an investor to pay that

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price. So it has to be

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something to do with additional

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development rights and stuff

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like that access. But again, it

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has to be with if you're going

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to develop it, you can't just

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develop that parcel. So you

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have to develop the entire

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thing or have the city take

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over and run it as a parking

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lot, which is also a necessity

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of the area. So and remind me,

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I think at the September, I

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don't know, it's been a while

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since we've had meetings and to

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remember, but I remember the

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parcel. So you had the city had

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a parcel and then the RDA had a

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portion of the parcel. And I

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remember if my memory serves me,

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the you still had to have

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access right to the parcel,

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like, and then the rezoning,

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there was all these

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complexities. And when you went

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out to bid last time or had up

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for sale, the interest was

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difficult because of all these

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restrictions put on, because

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you couldn't just develop the

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property behind the movie

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theater. There were access

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rights. And so and it was odd

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shaped and and we were like, we

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had discussions back then, why

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doesn't it just remain a

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parking lot? Like the downtown

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needs a parking lot. Why

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doesn't it just remain? There's

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no parking down there. I was

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just down there this weekend.

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You know, you're always

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struggling to either be in this,

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in the in this parking

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structure or to find something

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on the end. It's always nice.

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Like, is that option B is to

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just have RDA give it to the

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city and then it just stays a

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parking lot because the

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development not really sure

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what you can do with that

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property. Yeah. And you know

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and it is very interesting

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because I think the parcels are

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kitty corner. So like the city

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parcels are this way the RDA.

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And there is a house like up at

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the top of the hill that there

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probably is some easement for.

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And it is the location is a

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good location, but the location

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is not a good location. And it

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is a very downtown, but the

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access to the different pieces

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is. Yeah, if if you want to go

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a step further to that, I mean,

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do you want can we get a copy

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of the the title report with

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easements on it and get a copy

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of the they showed it last I

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mean, last time they had the I

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saw the plot. Yeah. But I that

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certain easements you can build

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on certain easements you can't.

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And again the appraisal you

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brought up a good question.

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Maybe we should take a look at

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the appraisal because that if

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that's an item that we have to

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00:44:49,853 --> 00:44:51,288
evaluate compared to what it's

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being used for and sold for, I

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00:44:53,423 --> 00:44:54,824
think we need to take a look at

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the appraisal as well to see

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how they evaluated it. Well,

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I'm just seeing like as we're

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looking at the budget, they

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were like 30,000 admin budget

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00:45:02,366 --> 00:45:04,468
because nothing was happening.

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Right? I thought they were

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after this whole presentation

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that they couldn't really do

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00:45:09,940 --> 00:45:11,374
anything. It's a hard piece of

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property, blah blah, blah, blah. And now they're

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00:45:13,543 --> 00:45:14,511
increasing it. Now they've

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00:45:14,511 --> 00:45:16,413
doubled it. So I want to know

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you're doubling it because you

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think there's going to be an

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00:45:20,818 --> 00:45:21,518
opportunity to do something

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with it. You mean our admin

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00:45:23,287 --> 00:45:24,421
budget that we doubled? Okay.

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00:45:24,421 --> 00:45:27,257
So that's the there is a legal

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00:45:27,257 --> 00:45:28,425
process that we have to follow

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in order to dispose of the the

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00:45:30,127 --> 00:45:33,330
land. It's the Surplus Land Act

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00:45:33,330 --> 00:45:34,832
process. And so we have to

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00:45:34,832 --> 00:45:36,200
legally go through this process,

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which there is a lot of work

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that is involved with going

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through the Surplus Land Act

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process, like council hearings.

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We have to do notices of

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00:45:43,407 --> 00:45:45,375
availability. We have to do a

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00:45:45,375 --> 00:45:47,077
lot of administrative work that

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is entailed within this process.

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So that's why our admin budget

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00:45:50,981 --> 00:45:53,617
went up substantially, so that

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we can start the process of the

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00:45:56,453 --> 00:45:59,056
Surplus Land Act. I don't think

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that we have any guarantee or

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outcome of what's going to

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happen with the Surplus Land

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Act. That wasn't what was what

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contributed to the increase in

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the admin budget. It's

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literally just the process of

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going through the Surplus Land

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Act. So that's what increased

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00:46:15,072 --> 00:46:17,975
the admin budget. I know that

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there is some. Joe Anthony is

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00:46:20,477 --> 00:46:22,412
our subject matter expert for

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00:46:22,412 --> 00:46:24,180
site seven. I do all of the

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00:46:24,180 --> 00:46:26,049
accounting for the ROP, so we

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00:46:26,049 --> 00:46:27,216
both work together to maintain

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this project. And he is

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unavailable today. So I'm

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coming. And he actually is like

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the expert. I've been

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researching the Surplus Land

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Act, researching site seven. He

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understands a lot more of this

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00:46:40,664 --> 00:46:42,466
information and hopefully next.

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00:46:42,466 --> 00:46:44,268
Is he part of the admin budget?

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00:46:44,268 --> 00:46:46,069
Yes he is, but he was

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00:46:46,069 --> 00:46:46,803
unavailable even though he

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00:46:46,803 --> 00:46:49,239
knows that we're every fourth

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00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,644
Wednesday. Okay. Yes. Things

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00:46:53,644 --> 00:46:56,179
come up. And so yes, he is

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00:46:56,179 --> 00:46:57,614
unavailable today, but I'm here

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00:46:57,614 --> 00:46:59,683
and I am. But you don't have

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00:46:59,683 --> 00:47:00,917
more details for site seven.

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00:47:00,917 --> 00:47:03,053
Well, I have this whole eight

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page document that he provided

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me so I can, you know, I've

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00:47:06,089 --> 00:47:07,224
read read through it, but

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00:47:07,224 --> 00:47:08,725
there's so much information in

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here is that eight part page

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00:47:11,628 --> 00:47:13,430
document part of our materials?

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00:47:13,430 --> 00:47:15,933
No, this is a notes for me. If

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00:47:15,933 --> 00:47:18,068
you guys want, we can produce

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something like this for you

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00:47:19,603 --> 00:47:21,705
that can give you more

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00:47:21,705 --> 00:47:23,507
information and send it in. As

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00:47:23,507 --> 00:47:27,110
to Robert, but I think there is

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00:47:27,110 --> 00:47:28,512
some type of process that can

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happen, like where the city can

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00:47:30,414 --> 00:47:32,149
if the successor agency does

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00:47:32,149 --> 00:47:34,051
want to give the property to

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00:47:34,051 --> 00:47:35,552
the city, there is a process

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00:47:35,552 --> 00:47:38,121
for that. I don't know exactly

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00:47:38,121 --> 00:47:41,058
the process. That could be one

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00:47:41,058 --> 00:47:42,359
of the the options, but I think

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00:47:42,359 --> 00:47:44,294
we still have to go through the

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00:47:44,294 --> 00:47:45,395
Surplus Land Act process. You

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00:47:45,395 --> 00:47:47,064
have to. Yeah, that's required

532
00:47:47,064 --> 00:47:49,032
by law. Just a minimum six

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00:47:49,032 --> 00:47:51,268
month process after you prepare

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00:47:51,268 --> 00:47:53,971
it. So it could be a 7 or 8

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00:47:53,971 --> 00:47:55,072
month. Other cities have done

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00:47:55,072 --> 00:47:58,408
it for this similar type. Well,

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00:47:58,408 --> 00:48:01,278
anytime you have a I think is

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and we reviewed the Surplus

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00:48:03,146 --> 00:48:04,748
Land Act a couple of years ago

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00:48:04,748 --> 00:48:05,916
when the when the legislation

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00:48:05,916 --> 00:48:08,952
came out, the governor decided

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00:48:08,952 --> 00:48:11,421
that we want housing. And so

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one of the objectives of the

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00:48:13,924 --> 00:48:14,958
California Housing Act,

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00:48:14,958 --> 00:48:16,760
whatever they call it, was to

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00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,629
make sure that the lands that

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00:48:19,629 --> 00:48:21,064
were former Redevelopment

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00:48:21,064 --> 00:48:23,567
Agency lands were presented to

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00:48:23,567 --> 00:48:25,402
housing developers, basically

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00:48:25,402 --> 00:48:27,237
for Surplus Land Act and

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00:48:27,237 --> 00:48:29,006
letting non-profits go out and

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00:48:29,006 --> 00:48:30,474
take a look at it, or whoever's

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00:48:30,474 --> 00:48:31,608
developing low and moderate

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00:48:31,608 --> 00:48:33,377
income housing to review the

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00:48:33,377 --> 00:48:35,445
process. And and there's a six

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00:48:35,445 --> 00:48:36,646
month window from the time it

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00:48:36,646 --> 00:48:39,082
gets published to the end date.

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And then when that happens and, we could ask everybody

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00:48:44,521 --> 00:48:46,323
that's here today how many

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00:48:46,323 --> 00:48:47,758
people actually took it from

561
00:48:47,758 --> 00:48:48,859
Surplus Land Act. You're going

562
00:48:48,859 --> 00:48:50,627
to find it's a very small

563
00:48:50,627 --> 00:48:52,129
percentage. But it does take

564
00:48:52,129 --> 00:48:54,931
time. It does take money. And

565
00:48:54,931 --> 00:48:56,933
at at the end of that, then the

566
00:48:56,933 --> 00:48:58,535
city can go with their plan B.

567
00:48:58,535 --> 00:49:00,069
It doesn't mean that the city's

568
00:49:00,069 --> 00:49:03,540
plan B can't be discussed and

569
00:49:03,540 --> 00:49:06,076
determined while this process

570
00:49:06,076 --> 00:49:08,745
is going on. So which is what

571
00:49:08,745 --> 00:49:11,248
you're requesting. And it's

572
00:49:11,248 --> 00:49:12,449
been enough time that we should

573
00:49:12,449 --> 00:49:14,284
be able to get that. But you

574
00:49:14,284 --> 00:49:16,253
said, I think it was by April

575
00:49:16,253 --> 00:49:17,454
that the City Council will have

576
00:49:17,454 --> 00:49:19,156
reviewed all these things. Is

577
00:49:19,156 --> 00:49:20,323
that what I heard? So we're

578
00:49:20,323 --> 00:49:21,425
going to take our first

579
00:49:21,425 --> 00:49:23,126
presentation in April. I am

580
00:49:23,126 --> 00:49:24,795
we're we're scheduling April as

581
00:49:24,795 --> 00:49:26,263
the tentative city council date

582
00:49:26,263 --> 00:49:29,132
to have them declare the land

583
00:49:29,132 --> 00:49:31,434
as surplus. Okay. So do you

584
00:49:31,434 --> 00:49:32,736
have to require two meetings,

585
00:49:32,736 --> 00:49:34,471
the notification, and then you

586
00:49:34,471 --> 00:49:35,705
have to have the vote later? I

587
00:49:35,705 --> 00:49:37,574
don't know if I know that

588
00:49:37,574 --> 00:49:38,575
happens for ordinance like

589
00:49:38,575 --> 00:49:39,542
ordinance updates like the

590
00:49:39,542 --> 00:49:40,610
second reading, but I don't

591
00:49:40,610 --> 00:49:42,479
know if a second reading is

592
00:49:42,479 --> 00:49:43,580
necessary for. So you'll have

593
00:49:43,580 --> 00:49:46,416
the the one, the what typically

594
00:49:46,416 --> 00:49:47,984
happens in cities have to be

595
00:49:47,984 --> 00:49:49,486
familiar with this is that the

596
00:49:49,486 --> 00:49:51,488
staff will do a report, do the

597
00:49:51,488 --> 00:49:53,723
study, they'll. But if it's

598
00:49:53,723 --> 00:49:56,193
just the Land Act presentation,

599
00:49:56,193 --> 00:50:00,831
that's one thing. But we're encouraging you to add to

600
00:50:00,831 --> 00:50:02,632
discuss when the if the Land

601
00:50:02,632 --> 00:50:04,801
Act is not successful

602
00:50:04,801 --> 00:50:05,869
presentation, what the uses

603
00:50:05,869 --> 00:50:07,136
will be and what the process

604
00:50:07,136 --> 00:50:08,872
will be. That is what we're

605
00:50:08,872 --> 00:50:10,207
looking for. That can be done

606
00:50:10,207 --> 00:50:11,942
during during that same period

607
00:50:11,942 --> 00:50:14,211
of time. I do have an option

608
00:50:14,211 --> 00:50:16,346
see exempt surplus land

609
00:50:16,346 --> 00:50:17,580
declaration attempt to declare

610
00:50:17,580 --> 00:50:19,482
the property as exempt. Surplus

611
00:50:19,482 --> 00:50:20,951
land under exemption. Category

612
00:50:20,951 --> 00:50:23,153
three land dedicated for other

613
00:50:23,153 --> 00:50:25,655
public uses. Statutory

614
00:50:25,655 --> 00:50:26,723
exemptions. Land dedicated for

615
00:50:26,723 --> 00:50:27,991
other public uses. Parks,

616
00:50:27,991 --> 00:50:29,359
schools, etc. Transfer to

617
00:50:29,359 --> 00:50:31,094
federal state government. Land

618
00:50:31,094 --> 00:50:32,595
exchange for other land to be

619
00:50:32,595 --> 00:50:34,731
used by the local agency, etc.

620
00:50:34,731 --> 00:50:35,932
For parking lot to be exempt,

621
00:50:35,932 --> 00:50:37,734
it usually needs to fall under

622
00:50:37,734 --> 00:50:38,735
specific categories, such as

623
00:50:38,735 --> 00:50:40,070
being part of a larger project

624
00:50:40,070 --> 00:50:42,572
for affordable housing. If the

625
00:50:42,572 --> 00:50:44,040
governing body can make a

626
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:45,108
defensible finding that the lot

627
00:50:45,108 --> 00:50:46,543
is necessary for current or

628
00:50:46,543 --> 00:50:48,445
future agency operations, then

629
00:50:48,445 --> 00:50:50,113
it is not surplus at all, and

630
00:50:50,113 --> 00:50:52,716
the SLA never triggers. So I

631
00:50:52,716 --> 00:50:54,884
think this is just what I'm

632
00:50:54,884 --> 00:50:56,987
reading from here. Well, so

633
00:50:56,987 --> 00:50:58,054
what basically what she's

634
00:50:58,054 --> 00:51:00,857
saying is that and LA city have

635
00:51:00,857 --> 00:51:01,991
done that. They say this is

636
00:51:01,991 --> 00:51:03,926
going to be our future park. So

637
00:51:03,926 --> 00:51:05,662
that's allowed. But a parking

638
00:51:05,662 --> 00:51:08,931
lot is not allowed. So and it

639
00:51:08,931 --> 00:51:11,434
is in the Te 4.1 something zone.

640
00:51:11,434 --> 00:51:13,937
And I don't know even if that

641
00:51:13,937 --> 00:51:15,938
area is zoned to be allowable

642
00:51:15,938 --> 00:51:17,474
use of a parking lot. So

643
00:51:17,474 --> 00:51:18,642
there's all the zoning codes

644
00:51:18,642 --> 00:51:20,277
and all this other stuff that

645
00:51:20,277 --> 00:51:21,845
you have to look into. Can we

646
00:51:21,845 --> 00:51:24,114
get a copy of the appraisal?

647
00:51:24,114 --> 00:51:25,515
Yeah. If you would like a copy

648
00:51:25,515 --> 00:51:26,616
of the appraisal, we can send

649
00:51:26,616 --> 00:51:28,551
it to Robert. Why don't we have

650
00:51:28,551 --> 00:51:30,553
can we do that at the same if

651
00:51:30,553 --> 00:51:32,622
whenever, can we follow up with

652
00:51:32,622 --> 00:51:35,158
Ventura to come back with more

653
00:51:35,158 --> 00:51:36,292
information on this and give us

654
00:51:36,292 --> 00:51:38,161
an update with Santa Paula, or

655
00:51:38,161 --> 00:51:39,429
even if we have to do a

656
00:51:39,429 --> 00:51:41,564
separate and with the copy of

657
00:51:41,564 --> 00:51:44,467
their appraisal, so we can get

658
00:51:44,467 --> 00:51:45,936
in between the appraisal.

659
00:51:45,936 --> 00:51:47,037
Because I don't want to, you

660
00:51:47,037 --> 00:51:49,172
know, see it two days before.

661
00:51:49,172 --> 00:51:51,441
Okay. Sorry. I think for Brown

662
00:51:51,441 --> 00:51:52,441
Act purposes it has to be

663
00:51:52,441 --> 00:51:54,277
released with an agenda. I

664
00:51:54,277 --> 00:51:55,679
would defer to County Council,

665
00:51:55,679 --> 00:51:58,481
but we would release that to

666
00:51:58,481 --> 00:52:00,383
the board and the public

667
00:52:00,383 --> 00:52:01,751
simultaneously as part of

668
00:52:01,751 --> 00:52:03,954
agenda under the Brown Act. You

669
00:52:03,954 --> 00:52:05,755
can't receive substantial

670
00:52:05,755 --> 00:52:07,624
documents outside the public

671
00:52:07,624 --> 00:52:09,259
agenda process. Well, no, it

672
00:52:09,259 --> 00:52:11,861
can be put on the public agenda

673
00:52:11,861 --> 00:52:13,296
and that would cover the Brown

674
00:52:13,296 --> 00:52:15,532
Act. You can verify that, but

675
00:52:15,532 --> 00:52:17,334
we could certainly see it.

676
00:52:17,334 --> 00:52:18,702
There's not a time limit as to

677
00:52:18,702 --> 00:52:20,970
when we can see it, is there? I

678
00:52:20,970 --> 00:52:22,539
mean, if we sent it in, can you

679
00:52:22,539 --> 00:52:24,407
post it as a supplemental to

680
00:52:24,407 --> 00:52:25,474
the agenda and then it's

681
00:52:25,474 --> 00:52:26,876
available? Yes. Yeah. Assistant

682
00:52:26,876 --> 00:52:28,778
County Counsel David Etzel yeah.

683
00:52:28,778 --> 00:52:29,512
Generally the Brown Act

684
00:52:29,512 --> 00:52:30,714
restrictions are minimums is

685
00:52:30,714 --> 00:52:32,515
the 72 hours, you know, posting

686
00:52:32,515 --> 00:52:34,217
an agenda. You need to provide

687
00:52:34,217 --> 00:52:35,585
the materials before that.

688
00:52:35,585 --> 00:52:37,120
There's nothing that would

689
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:38,488
that I'm aware of that

690
00:52:38,488 --> 00:52:39,256
would preclude providing

691
00:52:39,256 --> 00:52:40,323
the materials well in

692
00:52:40,323 --> 00:52:41,625
advance of that, if the

693
00:52:41,625 --> 00:52:42,726
board would request it as a

694
00:52:42,726 --> 00:52:43,926
courtesy. But just as far

695
00:52:43,926 --> 00:52:46,128
as having a meeting that 72

696
00:52:46,128 --> 00:52:47,196
hours, that's the that's

697
00:52:47,196 --> 00:52:48,932
the minimum that it must be

698
00:52:48,932 --> 00:52:51,467
posted. Yeah. Well, we'll have a meeting to

699
00:52:51,467 --> 00:52:53,603
discuss it and be published

700
00:52:53,603 --> 00:52:55,271
accordingly, but no reason

701
00:52:55,271 --> 00:52:56,539
why we can't see it

702
00:52:56,539 --> 00:52:57,374
beforehand. That's all I'm

703
00:52:57,374 --> 00:53:01,177
saying. Okay. So I know

704
00:53:01,177 --> 00:53:02,712
just make sure we're on the

705
00:53:02,712 --> 00:53:05,148
same wavelength here. What

706
00:53:05,148 --> 00:53:06,650
we're going to do is ask

707
00:53:06,650 --> 00:53:09,386
for Ventura. So, Ken, why don't

708
00:53:09,386 --> 00:53:10,487
you summarize what you're

709
00:53:10,487 --> 00:53:11,621
asking for? Yeah, I'd like to

710
00:53:11,621 --> 00:53:17,060
see a copy of the appraisal and, and get now that you've

711
00:53:17,060 --> 00:53:19,162
mentioned it, a copy of the

712
00:53:19,162 --> 00:53:22,165
existing zoning and definition.

713
00:53:22,165 --> 00:53:23,833
With that existing zoning

714
00:53:23,833 --> 00:53:26,369
allows. And then I would love

715
00:53:26,369 --> 00:53:28,872
to see a copy of the easements

716
00:53:28,872 --> 00:53:30,840
and a copy of the title report

717
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,943
that you have on it, but that

718
00:53:33,943 --> 00:53:36,446
would be me. That's what I do,

719
00:53:36,446 --> 00:53:38,214
that I could educate. Then I

720
00:53:38,214 --> 00:53:40,417
can, from that perspective,

721
00:53:40,417 --> 00:53:41,851
actually give you qualified

722
00:53:41,851 --> 00:53:46,556
input, somewhat qualified input.

723
00:53:46,556 --> 00:53:48,725
So we'll have Robert. We want

724
00:53:48,725 --> 00:53:50,060
to have that information

725
00:53:50,060 --> 00:53:51,995
supplied from Ventura to you.

726
00:53:51,995 --> 00:53:53,395
And then you can send it out to

727
00:53:53,395 --> 00:53:55,397
us. And then at some point we

728
00:53:55,397 --> 00:53:57,233
need to follow up with a

729
00:53:57,233 --> 00:53:58,401
meeting. Yes. On that.

730
00:53:58,401 --> 00:54:02,038
Understood. Is that okay. Yes.

731
00:54:02,038 --> 00:54:03,172
Okay. Absolutely. Get back to

732
00:54:03,172 --> 00:54:05,108
you. So let me repeat back what

733
00:54:05,108 --> 00:54:07,043
you guys are requesting. So you

734
00:54:07,043 --> 00:54:08,811
would like to see a copy of the

735
00:54:08,811 --> 00:54:09,912
appraisal. You would like to

736
00:54:09,912 --> 00:54:11,847
see a copy of the zoning of

737
00:54:11,847 --> 00:54:14,384
that, those parcels. You would

738
00:54:14,384 --> 00:54:15,719
like to understand the zoning

739
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,620
laws. And you want to see the

740
00:54:17,620 --> 00:54:20,056
easement title report. And I

741
00:54:20,056 --> 00:54:21,858
can do my best to find all of

742
00:54:21,858 --> 00:54:22,959
this information. It's going to

743
00:54:22,959 --> 00:54:24,727
take some time to research, and

744
00:54:24,727 --> 00:54:25,962
I'll have to work with public

745
00:54:25,962 --> 00:54:28,264
Works, and we'll call the title

746
00:54:28,264 --> 00:54:31,134
officer up. They haven't your

747
00:54:31,134 --> 00:54:32,902
title officer. And then did you

748
00:54:32,902 --> 00:54:37,307
guys want me to send you also a

749
00:54:37,307 --> 00:54:39,142
little cheat sheet on the

750
00:54:39,142 --> 00:54:40,877
Surplus Land Act or any other

751
00:54:40,877 --> 00:54:41,911
information? No. Okay. We've

752
00:54:41,911 --> 00:54:46,649
already reviewed that okay.

753
00:54:46,649 --> 00:54:47,851
Any more questions from

754
00:54:47,851 --> 00:54:49,753
up here or you want to talk

755
00:54:49,753 --> 00:54:50,954
about. Okay. No, no, I have a

756
00:54:50,954 --> 00:54:52,756
question. Okay. Go ahead. Yeah.

757
00:54:52,756 --> 00:54:55,258
Just focusing on the admin

758
00:54:55,258 --> 00:54:56,826
budget. So year over year it's

759
00:54:56,826 --> 00:54:58,694
about a $30,000 increase right.

760
00:54:58,694 --> 00:54:59,896
Is that that's purely

761
00:54:59,896 --> 00:55:00,863
attributable to the Surplus

762
00:55:00,863 --> 00:55:02,898
Land Act process. Yes. Okay. So

763
00:55:02,898 --> 00:55:04,834
just doing a quick math in my

764
00:55:04,834 --> 00:55:06,536
head. So if it's like $30,000 a

765
00:55:06,536 --> 00:55:08,338
six month process, that's like

766
00:55:08,338 --> 00:55:09,472
$5,000 a month. And so I'm

767
00:55:09,472 --> 00:55:10,740
trying to think intuitively,

768
00:55:10,740 --> 00:55:12,442
okay. In terms of a burn rate,

769
00:55:12,442 --> 00:55:14,010
does that sound reasonable. And

770
00:55:14,010 --> 00:55:15,444
so that's where, you know, I'm

771
00:55:15,444 --> 00:55:17,247
just wanted to confirm that

772
00:55:17,247 --> 00:55:19,448
30,000 is that's just for the

773
00:55:19,448 --> 00:55:20,850
going through that process. I

774
00:55:20,850 --> 00:55:22,252
think the Surplus Land Act is

775
00:55:22,252 --> 00:55:23,386
definitely longer than a six

776
00:55:23,386 --> 00:55:25,855
month process. Well, the the

777
00:55:25,855 --> 00:55:28,024
process is longer, but the

778
00:55:28,024 --> 00:55:29,826
notification period six months,

779
00:55:29,826 --> 00:55:32,461
I believe. Am I right or wrong.

780
00:55:32,461 --> 00:55:35,098
Yeah. And the budget is for one

781
00:55:35,098 --> 00:55:38,868
fiscal year starting in July,

782
00:55:38,868 --> 00:55:40,703
so we won't even be using that

783
00:55:40,703 --> 00:55:41,971
admin budget till July. So

784
00:55:41,971 --> 00:55:43,172
we'll be doing a lot of work

785
00:55:43,172 --> 00:55:44,974
within this year's admin budget.

786
00:55:44,974 --> 00:55:46,976
And the good news is is is just

787
00:55:46,976 --> 00:55:50,813
a budget. So the we didn't

788
00:55:50,813 --> 00:55:52,182
we're still learning how to

789
00:55:52,182 --> 00:55:53,716
estimate how long this process

790
00:55:53,716 --> 00:55:55,918
is going to take. And so the

791
00:55:55,918 --> 00:55:57,220
only thing that will actually

792
00:55:57,220 --> 00:55:58,655
be charged to the successor

793
00:55:58,655 --> 00:56:00,656
agency is the actuals. And this

794
00:56:00,656 --> 00:56:02,592
is all determined by the prior

795
00:56:02,592 --> 00:56:05,228
period adjustment. So next year

796
00:56:05,228 --> 00:56:06,395
we'll actually later on in this

797
00:56:06,395 --> 00:56:08,665
year in September we do a

798
00:56:08,665 --> 00:56:11,634
public I mean a prior period

799
00:56:11,634 --> 00:56:13,436
adjustment which shows what we

800
00:56:13,436 --> 00:56:15,572
actually used. And then they

801
00:56:15,572 --> 00:56:17,073
deduct what they give us from

802
00:56:17,073 --> 00:56:21,377
our next year's payment. So we

803
00:56:21,377 --> 00:56:22,212
really just are doing the best

804
00:56:22,212 --> 00:56:24,113
we can as being new to the

805
00:56:24,113 --> 00:56:25,148
successor agency to estimate

806
00:56:25,148 --> 00:56:26,816
how much staff time and

807
00:56:26,816 --> 00:56:28,485
attorney costs or other things

808
00:56:28,485 --> 00:56:30,320
that are going to go into this

809
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:31,087
process. Yeah, actually, I

810
00:56:31,087 --> 00:56:34,057
pulled up the Surplus Land Act

811
00:56:34,057 --> 00:56:35,191
guidelines, and so I thought

812
00:56:35,191 --> 00:56:36,459
six months was fairly

813
00:56:36,459 --> 00:56:37,527
aggressive. So in fact, it

814
00:56:37,527 --> 00:56:38,494
looks even better. Right?

815
00:56:38,494 --> 00:56:39,895
Because if you take 30,000

816
00:56:39,895 --> 00:56:41,263
divided by 12, you know, that's

817
00:56:41,263 --> 00:56:43,732
more like 2500 a month. So in

818
00:56:43,732 --> 00:56:45,001
my mind that seems reasonable.

819
00:56:45,001 --> 00:56:46,669
So I would support your admin

820
00:56:46,669 --> 00:56:47,736
budget. Okay. Great. Thank you

821
00:56:47,736 --> 00:56:52,542
James. Mr. important. I'm sorry.

822
00:56:52,542 --> 00:56:54,711
Any other questions? I do have

823
00:56:54,711 --> 00:56:58,314
one more question in the admin

824
00:56:58,314 --> 00:57:00,383
budget. Excuse me. It does say

825
00:57:00,383 --> 00:57:02,919
that the increase in outside

826
00:57:02,919 --> 00:57:06,890
consultant is for an updated

827
00:57:06,890 --> 00:57:08,424
appraisal. So I just want to be

828
00:57:08,424 --> 00:57:09,893
and this budget doesn't start

829
00:57:09,893 --> 00:57:13,363
till July. So that updated

830
00:57:13,363 --> 00:57:15,598
appraisal you actually got

831
00:57:15,598 --> 00:57:17,033
completed in this fiscal year

832
00:57:17,033 --> 00:57:18,567
correct. Yes. And I believe

833
00:57:18,567 --> 00:57:20,003
this is probably going to come

834
00:57:20,003 --> 00:57:22,071
from city funds. Or maybe it

835
00:57:22,071 --> 00:57:23,272
would be part of our I don't

836
00:57:23,272 --> 00:57:25,274
know if it will be part of our

837
00:57:25,274 --> 00:57:27,110
admin budget for this current

838
00:57:27,110 --> 00:57:28,277
fiscal year. If we I don't

839
00:57:28,277 --> 00:57:30,179
believe we will have to do an

840
00:57:30,179 --> 00:57:31,314
updated appraisal so that money

841
00:57:31,314 --> 00:57:33,116
will probably not be used and

842
00:57:33,116 --> 00:57:34,617
will be part of the the prior

843
00:57:34,617 --> 00:57:40,023
period adjustment. Thank you.

844
00:57:40,023 --> 00:57:42,291
Okay. No other questions okay.

845
00:57:42,291 --> 00:57:44,027
Well thank you very much. No

846
00:57:44,027 --> 00:57:45,094
problem. I hope this was

847
00:57:45,094 --> 00:57:47,597
helpful for you. And thank you

848
00:57:47,597 --> 00:57:48,798
for your time today. Okay.

849
00:57:48,798 --> 00:57:51,934
Thank you. Do I have a motion

850
00:57:51,934 --> 00:57:55,204
for this a motion to approve.

851
00:57:55,204 --> 00:57:58,041
Do I have a second? I'll second.

852
00:57:58,041 --> 00:58:01,344
All in favor say aye. Aye. Any

853
00:58:01,344 --> 00:58:03,846
opposed? Say no. None here. So

854
00:58:03,846 --> 00:58:06,749
motion passes, six zero. Thank

855
00:58:06,749 --> 00:58:10,687
you. Going on to item number

856
00:58:10,687 --> 00:58:12,055
ten which is the city of

857
00:58:12,055 --> 00:58:14,290
Moorpark. We have

858
00:58:14,290 --> 00:58:16,526
representatives here can come

859
00:58:16,526 --> 00:58:28,338
up. Thank you. Good morning,

860
00:58:28,338 --> 00:58:32,208
chair and board members. My

861
00:58:30,807 --> 00:58:32,275
name is Hiromi Diva, finance

862
00:58:32,275 --> 00:58:36,913
director from Moorpark. For

863
00:58:36,913 --> 00:58:39,048
this, we are requesting for a

864
00:58:39,048 --> 00:58:43,386
total of 1.3 million. Pretty

865
00:58:43,386 --> 00:58:45,288
close to 1.4 million. This

866
00:58:45,288 --> 00:58:50,626
include the 1.3 1,000,336, 990,

867
00:58:50,626 --> 00:58:54,564
and which is for majority is a

868
00:58:54,564 --> 00:58:57,433
bond payment. And the $50,000

869
00:58:57,433 --> 00:59:01,070
in admin cost and $50,000 admin

870
00:59:01,070 --> 00:59:02,839
costs has not changed from our

871
00:59:02,839 --> 00:59:06,909
original request, which include

872
00:59:06,909 --> 00:59:09,746
$34,000 in personnel costs,

873
00:59:09,746 --> 00:59:11,848
$5,000 in legal costs, $10,000

874
00:59:11,848 --> 00:59:16,485
in the Finance and bond debt

875
00:59:14,751 --> 00:59:16,552
administration and other

876
00:59:16,552 --> 00:59:21,557
administrative costs for $909.

877
00:59:21,557 --> 00:59:27,563
Last October meeting. We did

878
00:59:24,060 --> 00:59:27,630
not have any update on

879
00:59:27,630 --> 00:59:30,533
remaining land, and a city

880
00:59:30,533 --> 00:59:32,735
conducted property discussion

881
00:59:32,735 --> 00:59:34,837
session in November, and we had

882
00:59:34,837 --> 00:59:36,673
some directions, but not the

883
00:59:36,673 --> 00:59:38,441
final directions. I haven't.

884
00:59:38,441 --> 00:59:45,281
Mr. Miss Sandifer. I'm sorry,

885
00:59:41,778 --> 00:59:45,348
miss, Miss Sandifer, to go over

886
00:59:45,348 --> 00:59:50,953
with current status of

887
00:59:47,517 --> 00:59:51,020
remaining fund remaining land.

888
00:59:51,020 --> 00:59:53,589
Good morning everybody. This.

889
00:59:53,589 --> 00:59:55,391
Can you hear me? Okay. The city

890
00:59:55,391 --> 00:59:57,526
council still deciding whether

891
00:59:57,526 --> 00:59:59,361
or not they want to go down a

892
00:59:59,361 --> 01:00:00,529
pathway where they maintain the

893
01:00:00,529 --> 01:00:01,564
property versus going through

894
01:00:01,564 --> 01:00:03,265
the Surplus Land Act. We did

895
01:00:03,265 --> 01:00:06,135
have a discussion with them

896
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,202
recently, and I do owe them

897
01:00:06,202 --> 01:00:09,439
some additional information on

898
01:00:09,439 --> 01:00:12,008
the condition of the property.

899
01:00:12,008 --> 01:00:13,776
You know, we had talked about

900
01:00:13,776 --> 01:00:16,946
the property being developable,

901
01:00:16,946 --> 01:00:17,880
you know, based on what a

902
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,915
previous developer said, but we

903
01:00:19,915 --> 01:00:23,152
never got any written or

904
01:00:23,152 --> 01:00:24,253
documentation from that

905
01:00:24,253 --> 01:00:25,821
developer or costs. So we're

906
01:00:25,821 --> 01:00:27,290
going to go through that

907
01:00:27,290 --> 01:00:28,357
process. I'm hoping they'll be

908
01:00:28,357 --> 01:00:29,592
kind and give us that

909
01:00:29,592 --> 01:00:30,525
information, assuming they had

910
01:00:30,525 --> 01:00:32,361
it, and we're just using that

911
01:00:32,361 --> 01:00:35,464
for negotiation tactics. But so

912
01:00:35,464 --> 01:00:37,033
I owe the city council some

913
01:00:37,033 --> 01:00:38,034
additional information. And so

914
01:00:38,034 --> 01:00:39,368
it will either be that they

915
01:00:39,368 --> 01:00:41,037
direct us to move down a

916
01:00:41,037 --> 01:00:42,171
pathway that allows us to keep

917
01:00:42,171 --> 01:00:44,040
the property for open space or

918
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:45,908
some other park use, or we'll

919
01:00:45,908 --> 01:00:47,509
do the Surplus Land Act and try

920
01:00:47,509 --> 01:00:49,445
to see if somebody wants to try

921
01:00:49,445 --> 01:00:50,513
to develop the property. So I

922
01:00:50,513 --> 01:00:52,648
would anticipate that by the

923
01:00:52,648 --> 01:00:54,150
time we're doing the next RFPs

924
01:00:54,150 --> 01:00:55,551
process, we'll have a definite

925
01:00:55,551 --> 01:00:57,886
process for you and happy to

926
01:00:57,886 --> 01:00:59,388
come back and update if you

927
01:00:59,388 --> 01:01:02,024
want that as well. Happy to

928
01:01:02,024 --> 01:01:04,993
answer any questions. So how

929
01:01:04,993 --> 01:01:07,363
long has it. We've been kind of

930
01:01:07,363 --> 01:01:11,667
in limbo here for a while. And

931
01:01:11,667 --> 01:01:14,604
so I'm I'm kind of nervous when

932
01:01:14,604 --> 01:01:16,506
you say it'd be a whole year

933
01:01:16,506 --> 01:01:17,907
here before you get back to us.

934
01:01:17,907 --> 01:01:19,775
I mean, I don't know, Ken. I

935
01:01:19,775 --> 01:01:21,611
mean, is there anything I would

936
01:01:21,611 --> 01:01:22,778
think they could do something

937
01:01:22,778 --> 01:01:24,413
here faster. Yeah, I, I lived

938
01:01:24,413 --> 01:01:25,782
there, I've so been going to

939
01:01:25,782 --> 01:01:28,718
the actual meetings and, and

940
01:01:28,718 --> 01:01:29,786
this city council has been

941
01:01:29,786 --> 01:01:31,420
pretty diligent to be honest

942
01:01:31,420 --> 01:01:34,423
with you. And so a staff member

943
01:01:34,423 --> 01:01:36,192
this was under contract at one

944
01:01:36,192 --> 01:01:38,728
time. So they had somebody

945
01:01:38,728 --> 01:01:40,196
there to go ahead and build it

946
01:01:40,196 --> 01:01:43,466
so they'd us. And at the end of

947
01:01:43,466 --> 01:01:45,301
the day, if I'm understanding

948
01:01:45,301 --> 01:01:46,635
correctly, the developer pulled

949
01:01:46,635 --> 01:01:48,771
out of the deal. So now it goes,

950
01:01:48,771 --> 01:01:49,972
okay. Now what do we do with

951
01:01:49,972 --> 01:01:51,774
the property. You're asking the

952
01:01:51,774 --> 01:01:52,775
question. They're asking the

953
01:01:52,775 --> 01:01:54,343
same question. I mean, I'm not

954
01:01:54,343 --> 01:01:56,078
here to speak for city council,

955
01:01:56,078 --> 01:01:58,548
but it's a difficult site to

956
01:01:58,548 --> 01:02:00,316
develop from a real estate

957
01:02:00,316 --> 01:02:01,317
perspective. And it's probably

958
01:02:01,317 --> 01:02:02,585
going to end up being a public

959
01:02:02,585 --> 01:02:04,387
land use because it's right

960
01:02:04,387 --> 01:02:06,122
there at the base of the

961
01:02:06,122 --> 01:02:07,490
mountains, and it's got all

962
01:02:07,490 --> 01:02:09,025
sorts of liquefaction issues

963
01:02:09,025 --> 01:02:10,760
and access issues and

964
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:12,328
everything else. But with that

965
01:02:12,328 --> 01:02:14,363
being said, I'm not making that

966
01:02:14,363 --> 01:02:17,433
determination. So I would think

967
01:02:17,433 --> 01:02:19,067
you'd be back to City Council

968
01:02:19,067 --> 01:02:21,704
with by March. Yeah, yeah, I

969
01:02:21,704 --> 01:02:24,106
would think so. Yeah. Yeah. So

970
01:02:24,106 --> 01:02:26,642
and from that you'll have the

971
01:02:26,642 --> 01:02:28,044
information and they'll have

972
01:02:28,044 --> 01:02:29,879
determination sometime in March.

973
01:02:29,879 --> 01:02:30,947
So that's right around the

974
01:02:30,947 --> 01:02:33,548
corner. I know it's I'm not

975
01:02:33,548 --> 01:02:34,917
here to speak for them. I'm

976
01:02:34,917 --> 01:02:36,719
just saying that's I just been

977
01:02:36,719 --> 01:02:38,220
following the process. So I

978
01:02:38,220 --> 01:02:39,421
don't know how much quicker

979
01:02:39,421 --> 01:02:41,190
than March. You're going to get

980
01:02:41,190 --> 01:02:43,192
it. And if I can follow up too,

981
01:02:43,192 --> 01:02:44,393
you know, we do have a new

982
01:02:44,393 --> 01:02:46,261
council member who is loathe to

983
01:02:46,261 --> 01:02:48,197
let go of any land because land

984
01:02:48,197 --> 01:02:49,264
in California is expensive. So

985
01:02:49,264 --> 01:02:50,332
he's always looking at ways

986
01:02:50,332 --> 01:02:52,267
that the city can utilize it to

987
01:02:52,267 --> 01:02:53,435
better serve the city and the

988
01:02:53,435 --> 01:02:55,204
amenities. So he really just

989
01:02:55,204 --> 01:02:56,338
wants to make sure that if

990
01:02:56,338 --> 01:02:58,174
we're going to get rid of

991
01:02:58,174 --> 01:02:59,308
something, that it is for a

992
01:02:59,308 --> 01:03:01,210
good reason or we don't have a

993
01:03:01,210 --> 01:03:02,411
purpose for it. And so we're

994
01:03:02,411 --> 01:03:04,180
just going through the motions

995
01:03:04,180 --> 01:03:05,347
and, you know, and if if the

996
01:03:05,347 --> 01:03:07,183
city does end up maintaining

997
01:03:07,183 --> 01:03:08,317
the property, that's an easier

998
01:03:08,317 --> 01:03:09,384
process for us. You know,

999
01:03:09,384 --> 01:03:10,386
probably not for Ventura

1000
01:03:10,386 --> 01:03:12,188
because ours is in a parking

1001
01:03:12,188 --> 01:03:13,355
lot. But for us, you know,

1002
01:03:13,355 --> 01:03:14,256
government. Government to

1003
01:03:14,256 --> 01:03:15,324
government transfer of open

1004
01:03:15,324 --> 01:03:16,358
space is exempt from the

1005
01:03:16,358 --> 01:03:18,194
Surplus Land Act. So that would

1006
01:03:18,194 --> 01:03:19,361
be better for the oversight

1007
01:03:19,361 --> 01:03:20,796
board. But again, it's there's

1008
01:03:20,796 --> 01:03:22,431
five people who have to sort of

1009
01:03:22,431 --> 01:03:29,639
make that decision that are above me. So. I'm

1010
01:03:29,639 --> 01:03:31,841
going to suggest maybe Robert

1011
01:03:31,841 --> 01:03:33,643
again, that if by the time

1012
01:03:33,643 --> 01:03:34,810
Santa Paula comes in, if you

1013
01:03:34,810 --> 01:03:36,545
want to contact Moorpark and

1014
01:03:36,545 --> 01:03:37,813
see if they can come in at the

1015
01:03:37,813 --> 01:03:39,849
same time and give us an update,

1016
01:03:39,849 --> 01:03:41,484
maybe their city council has.

1017
01:03:41,484 --> 01:03:43,585
I'm just saying potentially I

1018
01:03:43,585 --> 01:03:45,420
don't want you to come in by

1019
01:03:45,420 --> 01:03:46,555
yourself this meeting, but if

1020
01:03:46,555 --> 01:03:48,691
we can coordinate that with

1021
01:03:48,691 --> 01:03:50,159
either Ventura coming in

1022
01:03:50,159 --> 01:03:52,094
separate or Santa Paula to come

1023
01:03:52,094 --> 01:03:53,963
in and give us an update, sure.

1024
01:03:53,963 --> 01:03:55,197
We could do that. Okay. Thank

1025
01:03:55,197 --> 01:03:57,032
you. And we're happy to do. Any

1026
01:03:57,032 --> 01:03:58,033
other questions? I was

1027
01:03:58,033 --> 01:04:00,970
wondering, I just only seen the

1028
01:04:00,970 --> 01:04:03,472
attachments. Just a two page,

1029
01:04:03,472 --> 01:04:06,375
two line salaries, benefit

1030
01:04:06,375 --> 01:04:08,844
operations. We didn't get a

1031
01:04:08,844 --> 01:04:10,313
historical like we do. We see a

1032
01:04:10,313 --> 01:04:12,247
few actuals and then a budget.

1033
01:04:12,247 --> 01:04:14,283
I'm confused with what we

1034
01:04:14,283 --> 01:04:17,053
received. Are you guys seeing

1035
01:04:17,053 --> 01:04:20,423
the same? Okay. Yeah, I had a

1036
01:04:20,423 --> 01:04:21,490
similar question. I wanted to

1037
01:04:21,490 --> 01:04:22,658
see what the actual normally

1038
01:04:22,658 --> 01:04:24,393
you see like three years of

1039
01:04:24,393 --> 01:04:25,527
actuals were they hit. What's

1040
01:04:25,527 --> 01:04:27,263
this year's budget. What's the

1041
01:04:27,263 --> 01:04:29,765
new. I just see 50,000 usually

1042
01:04:29,765 --> 01:04:30,800
get some detail about the

1043
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:32,267
salaries. I don't see any of

1044
01:04:32,267 --> 01:04:34,136
that. And I if I remember

1045
01:04:34,136 --> 01:04:35,237
correctly, in September I

1046
01:04:35,237 --> 01:04:36,939
wasn't happy with the 50,000.

1047
01:04:36,939 --> 01:04:38,741
And where it's at. I wasn't at

1048
01:04:38,741 --> 01:04:40,476
the October meeting. I had a

1049
01:04:40,476 --> 01:04:42,011
conflict, as I always do with

1050
01:04:42,011 --> 01:04:44,146
the October. So I'm kind of

1051
01:04:44,146 --> 01:04:46,381
confused about where we're at

1052
01:04:46,381 --> 01:04:51,687
with this one. So I turned in

1053
01:04:51,687 --> 01:04:54,623
what what was provided to me.

1054
01:04:54,623 --> 01:04:56,425
And again, yeah, in September

1055
01:04:56,425 --> 01:04:58,527
we had a lot more information.

1056
01:04:58,527 --> 01:05:00,729
So but it hasn't I mean, the

1057
01:05:00,729 --> 01:05:05,034
numbers haven't changed. Not to say that. I mean, we

1058
01:05:05,034 --> 01:05:06,502
probably should have. I was I

1059
01:05:06,502 --> 01:05:08,637
was clear that I wasn't for the

1060
01:05:08,637 --> 01:05:10,773
50,000 at that time and I

1061
01:05:10,773 --> 01:05:12,874
didn't I was not available for

1062
01:05:12,874 --> 01:05:16,211
the October meeting. Right. But

1063
01:05:16,211 --> 01:05:19,848
we only received this right. Do

1064
01:05:19,848 --> 01:05:21,784
you want to bring up see if

1065
01:05:21,784 --> 01:05:23,085
they can staff can bring up the.

1066
01:05:23,085 --> 01:05:25,921
Do you guys have the normal

1067
01:05:25,921 --> 01:05:27,289
historical or that we usually

1068
01:05:27,289 --> 01:05:32,895
receive. Can can staff

1069
01:05:32,895 --> 01:05:34,530
bring up the previous one

1070
01:05:34,530 --> 01:05:35,331
from back? I'm just

1071
01:05:35,331 --> 01:05:36,465
wondering why we didn't get

1072
01:05:36,465 --> 01:05:38,901
it for this one. Like, do I

1073
01:05:38,901 --> 01:05:40,503
have to go back into the

1074
01:05:40,503 --> 01:05:41,570
October meeting to get it,

1075
01:05:41,570 --> 01:05:43,506
or can I just get it again?

1076
01:05:43,506 --> 01:05:45,007
I don't want it now. I mean,

1077
01:05:45,007 --> 01:05:46,509
a waste of everybody's time,

1078
01:05:46,509 --> 01:05:47,710
but I know where my vote is

1079
01:05:47,710 --> 01:05:51,179
on this. Yeah. Yeah. You

1080
01:05:51,179 --> 01:05:52,882
have to go back to the

1081
01:05:52,882 --> 01:05:57,953
previous. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

1082
01:05:57,953 --> 01:06:00,489
I don't have historical

1083
01:06:00,489 --> 01:06:02,324
paperwork. I only have

1084
01:06:02,324 --> 01:06:03,892
comparing with last year's

1085
01:06:03,892 --> 01:06:06,996
for my note and I mean for

1086
01:06:06,996 --> 01:06:09,565
fiscal year 2526 budget, we

1087
01:06:09,565 --> 01:06:11,667
have reduced the $12,000 in

1088
01:06:11,667 --> 01:06:14,136
personnel cost and the

1089
01:06:14,136 --> 01:06:18,507
$10,000 in legal cost. And

1090
01:06:18,507 --> 01:06:19,975
additional administrative

1091
01:06:19,975 --> 01:06:25,047
costs reduced by 2994 total

1092
01:06:25,047 --> 01:06:26,382
$25,000. Reduced from

1093
01:06:26,382 --> 01:06:31,787
fiscal year 2526. So this

1094
01:06:31,787 --> 01:06:33,222
current fiscal year, we are

1095
01:06:33,222 --> 01:06:35,791
we requested for $75,000.

1096
01:06:35,791 --> 01:06:36,892
Assuming we are going

1097
01:06:36,892 --> 01:06:41,497
through this process of

1098
01:06:41,497 --> 01:06:43,265
remaining property, but the

1099
01:06:43,265 --> 01:06:46,335
next year. So we further

1100
01:06:46,335 --> 01:06:49,838
reduced to the $50,000. So

1101
01:06:49,838 --> 01:06:54,110
I was able to pull up the October report. So well

1102
01:06:54,110 --> 01:06:55,344
let's see if staff staff,

1103
01:06:55,344 --> 01:06:57,746
can you pull that up from

1104
01:06:57,746 --> 01:06:58,981
September. You have access

1105
01:06:58,981 --> 01:07:00,116
to that to be displayed on

1106
01:07:00,116 --> 01:07:01,851
the screen. Is that what

1107
01:07:01,851 --> 01:07:03,519
you're requesting? It'll

1108
01:07:03,519 --> 01:07:04,986
take a few moments, but we

1109
01:07:04,986 --> 01:07:06,755
can try to. It's not

1110
01:07:06,755 --> 01:07:08,791
necessary. Yeah, it's for

1111
01:07:08,791 --> 01:07:10,725
October but it's not

1112
01:07:10,725 --> 01:07:15,331
necessary. Yeah. Sorry. I'mt

1113
01:07:15,331 --> 01:07:20,168
clear. Pulling it up or not. We did discuss it in October

1114
01:07:20,168 --> 01:07:23,672
and they did reduce it from

1115
01:07:23,672 --> 01:07:24,839
75,000 to 50,000. So there was

1116
01:07:24,839 --> 01:07:26,509
a reduction from the meeting.

1117
01:07:26,509 --> 01:07:29,011
You okay? Thank you I didn't

1118
01:07:29,011 --> 01:07:30,178
normally we get to see that

1119
01:07:30,178 --> 01:07:32,214
history at this meeting. So I

1120
01:07:32,214 --> 01:07:34,416
guess for next time when we're

1121
01:07:34,416 --> 01:07:36,585
here at the January meeting, if

1122
01:07:36,585 --> 01:07:40,523
we can get the full information.

1123
01:07:40,523 --> 01:07:42,758
Yeah. It's what we just got for

1124
01:07:42,758 --> 01:07:44,827
Ventura. Yes. And we have, but

1125
01:07:44,827 --> 01:07:45,894
we normally do that for

1126
01:07:45,894 --> 01:07:47,062
everybody. So I'm just kind of

1127
01:07:47,062 --> 01:07:48,897
confused. Why? Yeah, I think in

1128
01:07:48,897 --> 01:07:51,367
the past and in October we do

1129
01:07:51,367 --> 01:07:52,768
provide a sheet where you could

1130
01:07:52,768 --> 01:07:54,637
see it's just one sheet that

1131
01:07:54,637 --> 01:07:55,738
you could see each of the

1132
01:07:55,738 --> 01:07:57,540
cities and where it's I'm

1133
01:07:57,540 --> 01:07:58,573
looking at that from the

1134
01:07:58,573 --> 01:07:59,775
October 1st. And yeah, you can

1135
01:07:59,775 --> 01:08:01,643
see that it was reduced by the

1136
01:08:01,643 --> 01:08:03,579
typical 25 usually in January.

1137
01:08:03,579 --> 01:08:05,014
Is that what you were, what

1138
01:08:05,014 --> 01:08:06,548
you're asking for. Because that

1139
01:08:06,548 --> 01:08:08,250
one. Yeah we could provide that.

1140
01:08:08,250 --> 01:08:11,153
Yeah. In January, every January

1141
01:08:11,153 --> 01:08:12,621
we usually get all that to get

1142
01:08:12,621 --> 01:08:14,790
the two pager two liner. We

1143
01:08:14,790 --> 01:08:16,325
don't normally see that. And I

1144
01:08:16,325 --> 01:08:18,327
don't want to have to go grab

1145
01:08:18,327 --> 01:08:19,394
October's meeting to look at

1146
01:08:19,394 --> 01:08:21,263
what we're going to approved in

1147
01:08:21,263 --> 01:08:22,731
January's meeting, correct? No,

1148
01:08:22,731 --> 01:08:24,567
I agree. And just to summarize,

1149
01:08:24,567 --> 01:08:25,934
since I have. Thank you, Kathy,

1150
01:08:25,934 --> 01:08:29,138
for updating me. Yeah. So just

1151
01:08:29,138 --> 01:08:30,873
to summarize the data that was

1152
01:08:30,873 --> 01:08:33,075
provided in October, starting

1153
01:08:33,075 --> 01:08:34,944
at is basically a downward

1154
01:08:34,944 --> 01:08:36,345
trend. So their actuals were

1155
01:08:36,345 --> 01:08:38,514
around like 140,000 to now

1156
01:08:38,514 --> 01:08:40,115
where we're at, you know with

1157
01:08:40,115 --> 01:08:43,152
the 50,000. So so I had to

1158
01:08:43,152 --> 01:08:44,253
remind myself like what did I

1159
01:08:44,253 --> 01:08:46,521
see last October. And so, you

1160
01:08:46,521 --> 01:08:47,689
know, I was fine with the

1161
01:08:47,689 --> 01:08:49,457
budget then. And because of

1162
01:08:49,457 --> 01:08:50,759
that downward continued

1163
01:08:50,759 --> 01:08:52,161
downward trend. So 75 and

1164
01:08:52,161 --> 01:08:54,330
September down to 50 correct.

1165
01:08:54,330 --> 01:08:55,764
Yeah. So we're seeing the

1166
01:08:55,764 --> 01:08:57,233
downward trend that we're

1167
01:08:57,233 --> 01:09:03,005
expecting. Yes. Thank you. Any

1168
01:09:03,005 --> 01:09:07,309
other comments or questions.

1169
01:09:07,309 --> 01:09:09,478
You can obviously tell that

1170
01:09:09,478 --> 01:09:12,414
we're interested in seeing you

1171
01:09:12,414 --> 01:09:14,683
know you know you guys working

1172
01:09:14,683 --> 01:09:16,352
on the admin budget. So I mean

1173
01:09:16,352 --> 01:09:17,886
that's always you know just

1174
01:09:17,886 --> 01:09:19,588
keep that in the back of your

1175
01:09:19,588 --> 01:09:21,457
mind as you're going back for

1176
01:09:21,457 --> 01:09:23,192
down the road and stuff, I

1177
01:09:23,192 --> 01:09:26,028
understand. Okay. Thank you.

1178
01:09:26,028 --> 01:09:28,163
And then Robert will follow up

1179
01:09:28,163 --> 01:09:30,398
in if with Moorpark to see if

1180
01:09:30,398 --> 01:09:32,101
they have an update that they

1181
01:09:32,101 --> 01:09:33,636
can coordinate with either

1182
01:09:33,636 --> 01:09:35,437
Santa Paula or Ventura coming

1183
01:09:35,437 --> 01:09:39,008
back. Yes. For some updates on this. Okay. Well thank you.

1184
01:09:39,008 --> 01:09:40,643
very much. Thank you

1185
01:09:40,643 --> 01:09:42,278
very much. Do I have any

1186
01:09:42,278 --> 01:09:45,781
motions on this motion? I'll

1187
01:09:45,781 --> 01:09:49,051
second. Okay. In second. All in

1188
01:09:49,051 --> 01:09:51,587
favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed?

1189
01:09:51,587 --> 01:09:55,257
Say no. None. None here. So the

1190
01:09:55,257 --> 01:09:58,093
motion passes. Six zero for

1191
01:09:58,093 --> 01:10:00,663
City of Moorpark. Next up is

1192
01:10:00,663 --> 01:10:03,098
item number 11 on the agenda.

1193
01:10:03,098 --> 01:10:04,900
That's Oxnard, the city of

1194
01:10:04,900 --> 01:10:08,404
Oxnard. Good morning, chair and

1195
01:10:08,404 --> 01:10:09,538
members of the board. My name

1196
01:10:09,538 --> 01:10:12,841
is Annie Jensen. I'm with the

1197
01:10:11,407 --> 01:10:12,908
city manager's office with the

1198
01:10:12,908 --> 01:10:14,343
City of Oxnard for the

1199
01:10:14,343 --> 01:10:15,377
highlights. On the Oxnard

1200
01:10:15,377 --> 01:10:18,280
successor agency, RoPS for 2627.

1201
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,082
You'll see that our enforceable

1202
01:10:20,082 --> 01:10:21,116
obligations are down by a

1203
01:10:21,116 --> 01:10:23,652
little over 951,000 from the

1204
01:10:23,652 --> 01:10:25,521
previous year. This is

1205
01:10:25,521 --> 01:10:27,256
primarily due to one of our pre

1206
01:10:27,256 --> 01:10:28,790
2010 bonds that's now falling

1207
01:10:28,790 --> 01:10:30,826
off the books. So that's great

1208
01:10:30,826 --> 01:10:32,661
news. That will terminate on

1209
01:10:32,661 --> 01:10:33,795
September 1st and we will no

1210
01:10:33,795 --> 01:10:36,231
longer have that expense. We do

1211
01:10:36,231 --> 01:10:37,633
show a slight increase for

1212
01:10:37,633 --> 01:10:40,569
items 24 and 40. And these are

1213
01:10:40,569 --> 01:10:41,637
some of our developer

1214
01:10:41,637 --> 01:10:43,405
agreements. And so these are

1215
01:10:43,405 --> 01:10:45,240
contractual increases that are

1216
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:48,110
due to our DDA. So that was an

1217
01:10:48,110 --> 01:10:50,279
expense that was baked into the

1218
01:10:50,279 --> 01:10:51,714
development agreement that we

1219
01:10:51,714 --> 01:10:53,649
inherited. And you will also

1220
01:10:53,649 --> 01:10:56,018
see that since last year, our

1221
01:10:56,018 --> 01:10:57,453
agreement for outside legal

1222
01:10:57,453 --> 01:11:00,723
counsel ends on June 30th 2026.

1223
01:11:00,723 --> 01:11:02,123
So that does not appear on this

1224
01:11:02,123 --> 01:11:04,593
proposed 2627 wraps. And that's

1225
01:11:04,593 --> 01:11:05,760
because we no longer have any

1226
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:07,096
physical property, and we feel

1227
01:11:07,096 --> 01:11:09,031
that our more complicated legal

1228
01:11:09,031 --> 01:11:10,766
needs are pretty much wrapped

1229
01:11:10,766 --> 01:11:12,968
up. So we felt comfortable with

1230
01:11:12,968 --> 01:11:14,202
not forwarding that expense to

1231
01:11:14,202 --> 01:11:16,371
this fiscal year. And beside

1232
01:11:16,371 --> 01:11:17,639
that, it's about business as

1233
01:11:17,639 --> 01:11:19,808
usual. Our admin costs remain

1234
01:11:19,808 --> 01:11:21,977
steady this year, and I'm happy

1235
01:11:21,977 --> 01:11:23,044
to answer any questions you

1236
01:11:23,044 --> 01:11:27,716
have on our proposed RoPS. Do I

1237
01:11:27,716 --> 01:11:31,653
have any questions? The only

1238
01:11:29,852 --> 01:11:31,719
thing is the same thing as we

1239
01:11:31,719 --> 01:11:33,455
just went through with Moorpark.

1240
01:11:33,455 --> 01:11:36,392
We don't have. I can't seem to

1241
01:11:36,392 --> 01:11:41,029
find the same spreadsheet, so

1242
01:11:41,029 --> 01:11:42,264
with each meeting when we have

1243
01:11:42,264 --> 01:11:45,000
each one, can I can we see it?

1244
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,937
Yeah, we can because. Thank you.

1245
01:11:48,937 --> 01:11:50,472
I don't want to have to rehash

1246
01:11:50,472 --> 01:11:53,275
it I I'm sorry. Anybody else

1247
01:11:53,275 --> 01:11:55,377
have a question? I have a

1248
01:11:55,377 --> 01:11:57,579
question for you. And I kind of

1249
01:11:57,579 --> 01:11:58,714
mentioned this at the last

1250
01:11:58,714 --> 01:12:02,217
meeting, it seems. And help me

1251
01:12:02,217 --> 01:12:04,086
out. It seems to me we're, you

1252
01:12:04,086 --> 01:12:05,187
know, obviously you've gotten

1253
01:12:05,187 --> 01:12:06,121
rid of your properties. You

1254
01:12:06,121 --> 01:12:07,756
made great progress and all

1255
01:12:07,756 --> 01:12:09,591
that, and you made headway and

1256
01:12:09,591 --> 01:12:12,294
all that good stuff. You're

1257
01:12:12,294 --> 01:12:13,362
basically I'm trying to

1258
01:12:13,362 --> 01:12:14,897
understand you're just

1259
01:12:14,897 --> 01:12:17,799
servicing existing stuff. You

1260
01:12:17,799 --> 01:12:19,268
mean you're not really doing

1261
01:12:19,268 --> 01:12:20,936
you're not planning to do a

1262
01:12:20,936 --> 01:12:22,905
sale or anything? Why can't

1263
01:12:22,905 --> 01:12:26,008
that admin costs go down? I'm

1264
01:12:26,008 --> 01:12:27,209
confused at this point. Why?

1265
01:12:27,209 --> 01:12:29,611
aren't they decreasing?

1266
01:12:29,611 --> 01:12:31,079
Some of our admin costs went up

1267
01:12:31,079 --> 01:12:32,815
because our financial team is

1268
01:12:32,815 --> 01:12:34,683
taking on more of the expense

1269
01:12:34,683 --> 01:12:35,817
internally that we used to have

1270
01:12:35,817 --> 01:12:37,685
a contractor for. So creating

1271
01:12:37,685 --> 01:12:39,220
the waterfall calculation,

1272
01:12:39,220 --> 01:12:40,088
that's all something we're

1273
01:12:40,088 --> 01:12:43,058
doing now. So that's we feel

1274
01:12:43,058 --> 01:12:44,593
that that's still a cost that

1275
01:12:44,593 --> 01:12:46,195
we need to produce all the

1276
01:12:46,195 --> 01:12:47,963
documents associated with

1277
01:12:47,963 --> 01:12:49,731
navigating our our remaining

1278
01:12:49,731 --> 01:12:52,768
obligations as they get

1279
01:12:52,768 --> 01:12:53,902
experienced over time. Won't

1280
01:12:53,902 --> 01:12:56,271
that be a quicker or easier

1281
01:12:56,271 --> 01:12:57,939
operation or more experience

1282
01:12:57,939 --> 01:13:00,075
with that? I'm I'm just trying

1283
01:13:00,075 --> 01:13:01,910
to see why the cost can't go

1284
01:13:01,910 --> 01:13:06,081
down more. Because I don't see something out there

1285
01:13:06,081 --> 01:13:08,116
that's really driving up the

1286
01:13:08,116 --> 01:13:10,385
cost or keeping it up there. If

1287
01:13:10,385 --> 01:13:12,654
it's just routine operations,

1288
01:13:12,654 --> 01:13:13,655
yeah, there's going to be some

1289
01:13:13,655 --> 01:13:15,457
overhead, but I would expect

1290
01:13:15,457 --> 01:13:17,826
over time it becomes a routine

1291
01:13:17,826 --> 01:13:19,928
process and it's not going to

1292
01:13:19,928 --> 01:13:21,095
be, you know, you should be

1293
01:13:21,095 --> 01:13:22,931
able to go through it pretty

1294
01:13:22,931 --> 01:13:24,065
quickly. But I'm just saying

1295
01:13:24,065 --> 01:13:25,133
I'm that's where I'm coming

1296
01:13:25,133 --> 01:13:27,236
from. I this will make me very

1297
01:13:27,236 --> 01:13:30,072
nervous down the road to keep

1298
01:13:30,072 --> 01:13:32,207
seeing these types of admin

1299
01:13:32,207 --> 01:13:33,742
costs when you're just doing

1300
01:13:33,742 --> 01:13:34,776
maintenance on something. I

1301
01:13:34,776 --> 01:13:36,612
mean, you know, this the same

1302
01:13:36,612 --> 01:13:37,846
paperwork over and over again.

1303
01:13:37,846 --> 01:13:39,147
I don't know if anybody else

1304
01:13:39,147 --> 01:13:43,385
has that feeling, but but go

1305
01:13:43,385 --> 01:13:45,954
ahead. Well, I mean, you bring

1306
01:13:45,954 --> 01:13:47,856
up an interesting point there

1307
01:13:47,856 --> 01:13:49,958
when you have a bond issue and

1308
01:13:49,958 --> 01:13:52,027
I'm not a bond expert, but

1309
01:13:52,027 --> 01:13:54,530
maybe we can get some

1310
01:13:54,530 --> 01:13:57,766
definition as to what has to be

1311
01:13:57,766 --> 01:14:00,735
done to keep a bond current and

1312
01:14:00,735 --> 01:14:03,205
not in violation of their bond

1313
01:14:03,205 --> 01:14:05,007
contract. Is there are

1314
01:14:05,007 --> 01:14:06,508
waterfalls. The numbers are

1315
01:14:06,508 --> 01:14:09,278
just. And unfortunately, if you

1316
01:14:09,278 --> 01:14:10,779
have the same person doing it

1317
01:14:10,779 --> 01:14:13,315
every year, I'll bet you money

1318
01:14:13,315 --> 01:14:14,383
that they're probably making

1319
01:14:14,383 --> 01:14:16,051
more money the second year than

1320
01:14:16,051 --> 01:14:17,653
they are the first year. So

1321
01:14:17,653 --> 01:14:19,755
there's a cost of that. But it

1322
01:14:19,755 --> 01:14:22,357
doesn't mean that your question

1323
01:14:22,357 --> 01:14:24,126
that if it's something that

1324
01:14:24,126 --> 01:14:27,262
should take ten hours a year

1325
01:14:27,262 --> 01:14:29,498
for one bond, it's ten hours a

1326
01:14:29,498 --> 01:14:31,366
year, but if it's really 50

1327
01:14:31,366 --> 01:14:32,834
hours a year, I mean, we don't

1328
01:14:32,834 --> 01:14:34,970
have that Intel intelligence,

1329
01:14:34,970 --> 01:14:36,338
so maybe we can get some

1330
01:14:36,338 --> 01:14:37,806
education on that. But I think

1331
01:14:37,806 --> 01:14:40,309
it's a valid question. But I

1332
01:14:40,309 --> 01:14:41,944
know some of your work though

1333
01:14:41,944 --> 01:14:44,146
is based on your you have to

1334
01:14:44,146 --> 01:14:45,347
look at what's happening in,

1335
01:14:45,347 --> 01:14:47,149
you know, with some of your

1336
01:14:47,149 --> 01:14:48,216
contracts, you have issues

1337
01:14:48,216 --> 01:14:49,784
where you have to evaluate, you

1338
01:14:49,784 --> 01:14:51,353
have to get the inputs and

1339
01:14:51,353 --> 01:14:52,554
costs and see the difference.

1340
01:14:52,554 --> 01:14:54,456
And I know there's some work

1341
01:14:54,456 --> 01:14:55,824
there, but it should be. It's

1342
01:14:55,824 --> 01:14:57,459
nothing new. It's not the same.

1343
01:14:57,459 --> 01:14:58,660
It's the same stuff you did

1344
01:14:58,660 --> 01:15:00,696
each previous year. So I mean,

1345
01:15:00,696 --> 01:15:02,631
I would think over time it gets

1346
01:15:02,631 --> 01:15:04,833
more more of a routine process.

1347
01:15:04,833 --> 01:15:06,635
We did find out that some of

1348
01:15:06,635 --> 01:15:08,036
our hours had been under billed

1349
01:15:08,036 --> 01:15:09,805
in previous years, so the city

1350
01:15:09,805 --> 01:15:10,939
had been absorbing some of the

1351
01:15:10,939 --> 01:15:12,140
costs that really should have

1352
01:15:12,140 --> 01:15:13,842
been a successor agency cost.

1353
01:15:13,842 --> 01:15:15,711
And now it's our finance team

1354
01:15:15,711 --> 01:15:17,412
worked to correct that and and

1355
01:15:17,412 --> 01:15:19,114
keep it. So the reflection that

1356
01:15:19,114 --> 01:15:20,348
you see is the same is also

1357
01:15:20,348 --> 01:15:22,517
because we feel like our hours

1358
01:15:22,517 --> 01:15:23,118
have been previously

1359
01:15:23,118 --> 01:15:26,722
undercounted. Okay. Well and

1360
01:15:26,722 --> 01:15:28,790
then provide the next time I'd

1361
01:15:28,790 --> 01:15:30,325
like to see a break a detailed

1362
01:15:30,325 --> 01:15:32,861
breakout like we usually get

1363
01:15:32,861 --> 01:15:36,365
for all the hours and where the time is going in. The

1364
01:15:36,365 --> 01:15:38,634
cost is being generated for

1365
01:15:38,634 --> 01:15:39,768
sure, with the admin or with

1366
01:15:39,768 --> 01:15:43,772
the contracts or with the admin. Okay. Any costs going

1367
01:15:43,772 --> 01:15:46,408
into the admin. Yeah okay. Yeah,

1368
01:15:46,408 --> 01:15:48,010
absolutely. We can do that and

1369
01:15:48,010 --> 01:15:49,243
I'll provide some more context.

1370
01:15:49,243 --> 01:15:52,948
I did for the Moorpark example.

1371
01:15:52,948 --> 01:15:54,883
But three years ago the actuals

1372
01:15:54,883 --> 01:15:57,753
were around 133,000. Then it

1373
01:15:57,753 --> 01:15:59,654
dipped down to 100,000 and back

1374
01:15:59,654 --> 01:16:01,957
up to 120,000 for last year or

1375
01:16:01,957 --> 01:16:03,892
the. And so what they're

1376
01:16:03,892 --> 01:16:05,727
proposing is flat. So that's

1377
01:16:05,727 --> 01:16:07,729
kind of so it's kind of been

1378
01:16:07,729 --> 01:16:09,398
flat or I guess for the last

1379
01:16:09,398 --> 01:16:12,401
three years or so, but still

1380
01:16:12,401 --> 01:16:14,202
for me, at this point, if

1381
01:16:14,202 --> 01:16:15,337
you're just doing maintenance

1382
01:16:15,337 --> 01:16:17,472
on something, it should the

1383
01:16:17,472 --> 01:16:18,339
cost, you should be getting

1384
01:16:18,339 --> 01:16:20,008
more efficient at what you're

1385
01:16:20,008 --> 01:16:21,510
doing and cost should be going

1386
01:16:21,510 --> 01:16:23,345
down. You're not really, you

1387
01:16:23,345 --> 01:16:25,747
know, once people know what to

1388
01:16:25,747 --> 01:16:26,949
do, you don't have you don't

1389
01:16:26,949 --> 01:16:28,784
have to use a higher level

1390
01:16:28,784 --> 01:16:29,918
staff. You can you can push

1391
01:16:29,918 --> 01:16:31,820
that down to lower, lower cost

1392
01:16:31,820 --> 01:16:33,154
staff. That is true. Although

1393
01:16:33,154 --> 01:16:34,156
we do have unfortunately have

1394
01:16:34,156 --> 01:16:36,258
some staff turnover as well. So

1395
01:16:36,258 --> 01:16:40,095
sometimes that we need to. Yeah yeah okay. Yeah. This year

1396
01:16:40,095 --> 01:16:41,196
in particular since I've been

1397
01:16:41,196 --> 01:16:42,731
here about three months. But

1398
01:16:42,731 --> 01:16:44,800
okay. It's not all me I promise.

1399
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:48,036
Okay chair, can I just mention

1400
01:16:48,036 --> 01:16:49,571
something. Yes. Go ahead. So

1401
01:16:49,571 --> 01:16:51,039
you know, the way we had kind

1402
01:16:51,039 --> 01:16:52,407
of designed the progression of

1403
01:16:52,407 --> 01:16:54,209
these meetings is that we have

1404
01:16:54,209 --> 01:16:56,344
that September meeting and and

1405
01:16:56,344 --> 01:16:58,146
that's primarily for the admin

1406
01:16:58,146 --> 01:16:59,481
budget. That's that's what we

1407
01:16:59,481 --> 01:17:01,183
want to we want to, you know,

1408
01:17:01,183 --> 01:17:02,550
make sure it gets before you

1409
01:17:02,550 --> 01:17:03,885
guys, they give us the the

1410
01:17:03,885 --> 01:17:07,856
history of it. And and we're, focused on that so that

1411
01:17:07,856 --> 01:17:09,324
we don't necessarily have to

1412
01:17:09,324 --> 01:17:10,959
deal with it right now. Because

1413
01:17:10,959 --> 01:17:15,130
right now we're up against a timeline to, to get

1414
01:17:15,130 --> 01:17:18,366
these passed. And so what you

1415
01:17:18,366 --> 01:17:19,434
know, we we'll have the

1416
01:17:19,434 --> 01:17:20,701
September meeting and possibly

1417
01:17:20,701 --> 01:17:22,003
the October meeting. And once

1418
01:17:22,003 --> 01:17:23,437
it once it gets passed. And I'm

1419
01:17:23,437 --> 01:17:25,507
not saying, you know, you guys

1420
01:17:25,507 --> 01:17:26,942
can't can't rehash it again,

1421
01:17:26,942 --> 01:17:28,443
but I'm just saying at this

1422
01:17:28,443 --> 01:17:30,545
point they've, they've done

1423
01:17:30,545 --> 01:17:32,714
their, their, their job on

1424
01:17:32,714 --> 01:17:34,816
whittling it down. We've done

1425
01:17:34,816 --> 01:17:37,018
our due diligence on, on, you

1426
01:17:37,018 --> 01:17:37,986
know, making sure they're

1427
01:17:37,986 --> 01:17:39,053
answering the questions. And at

1428
01:17:39,053 --> 01:17:43,225
this point it should be okay.

1429
01:17:43,225 --> 01:17:45,026
You know, you didn't change the

1430
01:17:45,026 --> 01:17:46,628
numbers. So the numbers are the

1431
01:17:46,628 --> 01:17:47,795
same and it carries over. And

1432
01:17:47,795 --> 01:17:49,631
that's what we've done in the

1433
01:17:49,631 --> 01:17:52,100
past I'm saying. But if if the

1434
01:17:52,100 --> 01:17:53,568
board is wanting something

1435
01:17:53,568 --> 01:17:54,803
different or a different format

1436
01:17:54,803 --> 01:17:57,506
for us to to do this, to do our

1437
01:17:57,506 --> 01:17:58,740
jobs and for the cities to do

1438
01:17:58,740 --> 01:18:00,509
their jobs, we got to

1439
01:18:00,509 --> 01:18:04,412
understand that. And maybe, we need to to reframe

1440
01:18:04,412 --> 01:18:06,148
this or redo this in a

1441
01:18:06,148 --> 01:18:08,083
different way so that, you know,

1442
01:18:08,083 --> 01:18:10,485
all the information is for you.

1443
01:18:10,485 --> 01:18:13,755
And then maybe, maybe even the

1444
01:18:13,755 --> 01:18:14,856
September October meetings may

1445
01:18:14,856 --> 01:18:16,525
be unnecessary. And we could

1446
01:18:16,525 --> 01:18:18,894
just do it all. All. Now, I'm

1447
01:18:18,894 --> 01:18:20,629
just I'm just saying and that's

1448
01:18:20,629 --> 01:18:22,364
been the history that's why.

1449
01:18:22,364 --> 01:18:24,232
And and yes, you're correct.

1450
01:18:24,232 --> 01:18:25,500
That has been the history

1451
01:18:25,500 --> 01:18:26,634
because we had struggled in the

1452
01:18:26,634 --> 01:18:27,836
past. Everything was at the

1453
01:18:27,836 --> 01:18:30,071
last minute and, and January

1454
01:18:30,071 --> 01:18:31,172
and conversations were made.

1455
01:18:31,172 --> 01:18:33,074
And so yes, you are correct, we

1456
01:18:33,074 --> 01:18:36,812
did set that up, but we don't

1457
01:18:36,812 --> 01:18:37,946
have very many of these

1458
01:18:37,946 --> 01:18:39,915
meetings that we keep on the

1459
01:18:39,915 --> 01:18:44,085
books. So we only have a select

1460
01:18:44,085 --> 01:18:46,021
few because normally we go dark.

1461
01:18:46,021 --> 01:18:47,622
Right. Unless there's something

1462
01:18:47,622 --> 01:18:49,124
urgent that you want us, we go

1463
01:18:49,124 --> 01:18:51,125
dark until September, right? Oh

1464
01:18:51,125 --> 01:18:52,594
yeah. Absolutely. So we have

1465
01:18:52,594 --> 01:18:53,761
basically September, October

1466
01:18:53,761 --> 01:18:56,531
and January, but we have other

1467
01:18:56,531 --> 01:18:57,699
meetings on the books in case,

1468
01:18:57,699 --> 01:18:59,433
you know, there's an issue. So

1469
01:18:59,433 --> 01:19:01,536
we only have these three

1470
01:19:01,536 --> 01:19:02,937
opportunities to talk about the

1471
01:19:02,937 --> 01:19:04,739
next time. Right. So we only

1472
01:19:04,739 --> 01:19:07,676
have now right to talk about

1473
01:19:07,676 --> 01:19:09,077
September before September

1474
01:19:09,077 --> 01:19:12,747
comes. So I guess I'm along I'm

1475
01:19:12,747 --> 01:19:14,649
okay with Mitch letting them

1476
01:19:14,649 --> 01:19:17,052
know now that we have an

1477
01:19:17,052 --> 01:19:19,254
expectation at the September to

1478
01:19:19,254 --> 01:19:21,156
like when we start this process

1479
01:19:21,156 --> 01:19:22,256
again, to definitely go through

1480
01:19:22,256 --> 01:19:23,891
and look at those admin budgets

1481
01:19:23,891 --> 01:19:25,694
and make them realistic to the

1482
01:19:25,694 --> 01:19:27,462
actual work that's being done.

1483
01:19:27,462 --> 01:19:30,031
So when we have our September

1484
01:19:30,031 --> 01:19:31,466
and October meetings where we

1485
01:19:31,466 --> 01:19:33,401
dive in, it's fruitful. Yeah.

1486
01:19:33,401 --> 01:19:37,272
No, no. And I'm not, I'm not arguing against. Yeah.

1487
01:19:37,272 --> 01:19:39,808
Me neither is you know. Yeah

1488
01:19:39,808 --> 01:19:41,075
I'm saying more information,

1489
01:19:41,075 --> 01:19:43,345
but I just want to be clear. If

1490
01:19:43,345 --> 01:19:45,213
the board wishes to adjust the

1491
01:19:45,213 --> 01:19:47,349
format we're doing this, we

1492
01:19:47,349 --> 01:19:48,950
need to know the city's need to

1493
01:19:48,950 --> 01:19:50,218
know so that we could do it,

1494
01:19:50,218 --> 01:19:51,953
provide you with the best

1495
01:19:51,953 --> 01:19:53,020
information you could have. I'm

1496
01:19:53,020 --> 01:19:54,155
just explaining kind of how we

1497
01:19:54,155 --> 01:19:56,123
sit up here, too, but the I've

1498
01:19:56,123 --> 01:19:57,191
already talked about it. I'd

1499
01:19:57,191 --> 01:19:59,093
like to see it every single

1500
01:19:59,093 --> 01:20:01,029
time. The format not change in

1501
01:20:01,029 --> 01:20:02,797
the format. I like our format.

1502
01:20:02,797 --> 01:20:04,966
I'm still a for it. The only

1503
01:20:04,966 --> 01:20:06,434
thing I'm requesting is I feel

1504
01:20:06,434 --> 01:20:09,971
like this time to agencies

1505
01:20:09,971 --> 01:20:11,840
didn't have the normal,

1506
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:13,108
even though it's still a

1507
01:20:13,108 --> 01:20:14,209
repeat of October. I'd like

1508
01:20:14,209 --> 01:20:16,111
it in the materials. Okay,

1509
01:20:16,111 --> 01:20:17,879
that was my only thing was

1510
01:20:17,879 --> 01:20:19,313
I don't want to have to go

1511
01:20:19,313 --> 01:20:20,415
back to another meeting to

1512
01:20:20,415 --> 01:20:21,482
remind myself again what

1513
01:20:21,482 --> 01:20:23,585
happened. Just just have it in

1514
01:20:23,585 --> 01:20:25,419
the materials and everything's

1515
01:20:25,419 --> 01:20:27,289
okay. Easier. It's all right in

1516
01:20:27,289 --> 01:20:28,656
front of us. We don't have to

1517
01:20:28,656 --> 01:20:30,258
go digging up anything, okay?

1518
01:20:30,258 --> 01:20:34,095
That that was it. Okay. And

1519
01:20:34,095 --> 01:20:35,964
then I'm here trying to make

1520
01:20:35,964 --> 01:20:38,099
sure that for your next meeting.

1521
01:20:38,099 --> 01:20:39,567
Correct. I'm just. I'm just

1522
01:20:39,567 --> 01:20:41,670
giving you a heads up again to

1523
01:20:41,670 --> 01:20:43,438
give you foreshadowing for the

1524
01:20:43,438 --> 01:20:44,906
next meeting that, you know, I

1525
01:20:44,906 --> 01:20:46,875
want to I want to see some

1526
01:20:46,875 --> 01:20:47,876
improvement. There are more

1527
01:20:47,876 --> 01:20:49,177
efficiencies or something being

1528
01:20:49,177 --> 01:20:51,012
done because, you know, Oxnard,

1529
01:20:51,012 --> 01:20:52,480
you guys are going to be the

1530
01:20:52,480 --> 01:20:55,650
last ones on the books. I'm not

1531
01:20:55,650 --> 01:20:57,352
sure if you knew that with

1532
01:20:57,352 --> 01:20:58,920
being new on the job, but your

1533
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:00,322
guys, everybody else is going

1534
01:21:00,322 --> 01:21:01,456
to be gone before you. So

1535
01:21:01,456 --> 01:21:03,391
you're the last one is on the

1536
01:21:03,391 --> 01:21:04,726
books. And what I'm saying long

1537
01:21:04,726 --> 01:21:06,528
term, just for your input so

1538
01:21:06,528 --> 01:21:08,363
you can get that, you know, the

1539
01:21:08,363 --> 01:21:09,764
background. I don't want to to

1540
01:21:09,764 --> 01:21:12,934
me is I'd like to see that

1541
01:21:12,934 --> 01:21:14,502
120,000 go down over, you know,

1542
01:21:14,502 --> 01:21:16,237
over the next years and years

1543
01:21:16,237 --> 01:21:17,338
because you're going to be out,

1544
01:21:17,338 --> 01:21:19,240
you're going to be coming back

1545
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:21,142
here year after year for a long

1546
01:21:21,142 --> 01:21:22,343
time. So I'd like to see some

1547
01:21:22,343 --> 01:21:24,211
headway on that, where you get

1548
01:21:24,211 --> 01:21:25,547
more, find ways to be more

1549
01:21:25,547 --> 01:21:27,148
efficient at what you're just

1550
01:21:27,148 --> 01:21:28,850
doing for maintenance type work

1551
01:21:28,850 --> 01:21:30,218
on these projects. Does that

1552
01:21:30,218 --> 01:21:31,619
make any sense? What I'm saying

1553
01:21:31,619 --> 01:21:32,687
it does, yes. Thank you.

1554
01:21:32,687 --> 01:21:34,155
Absolutely. Noted. And I will

1555
01:21:34,155 --> 01:21:35,657
talk to our finance team about

1556
01:21:35,657 --> 01:21:37,425
that. Okay. I'm sorry. Yeah.

1557
01:21:37,425 --> 01:21:39,594
I'd still like to see a summary

1558
01:21:39,594 --> 01:21:42,097
of what the process of

1559
01:21:42,097 --> 01:21:43,932
continuing a bond issue. So we

1560
01:21:43,932 --> 01:21:46,134
have a better I have a better

1561
01:21:46,134 --> 01:21:47,502
understanding of what's

1562
01:21:47,502 --> 01:21:50,338
involved okay. Absolutely.

1563
01:21:50,338 --> 01:21:52,874
Thank you. Any other questions

1564
01:21:52,874 --> 01:21:56,778
or comments? No. Do I have a

1565
01:21:56,778 --> 01:22:00,482
motion? I'll make the motion.

1566
01:22:00,482 --> 01:22:04,819
I'll second. All in favor say

1567
01:22:04,819 --> 01:22:07,655
aye. Aye. Any opposed? Say no.

1568
01:22:07,655 --> 01:22:09,791
None. Heard so. Motion passes,

1569
01:22:09,791 --> 01:22:15,230
six zero. Thank you. On to item

1570
01:22:15,230 --> 01:22:25,740
number 12. City of Fillmore.

1571
01:22:25,740 --> 01:22:26,807
Good morning. Board members and

1572
01:22:26,807 --> 01:22:28,576
chair. I'm Deborah Cappelletto,

1573
01:22:28,576 --> 01:22:30,044
finance director for the City

1574
01:22:30,044 --> 01:22:31,746
of Fillmore. Today I have Kevin

1575
01:22:31,746 --> 01:22:33,247
McSweeney with me, who is our

1576
01:22:33,247 --> 01:22:34,349
planning and community

1577
01:22:34,349 --> 01:22:35,449
development director. He will

1578
01:22:35,449 --> 01:22:37,519
be discussing the surplus

1579
01:22:37,519 --> 01:22:38,586
properties that we have

1580
01:22:38,586 --> 01:22:40,155
available, and I'll be going

1581
01:22:40,155 --> 01:22:43,291
over quickly. The financial

1582
01:22:43,291 --> 01:22:45,493
components, as you can see on

1583
01:22:45,493 --> 01:22:47,162
item G for the administrative,

1584
01:22:47,162 --> 01:22:48,363
we have not changed since our

1585
01:22:48,363 --> 01:22:50,264
last two presentations. So

1586
01:22:50,264 --> 01:22:54,135
we're at $58,117. The remaining

1587
01:22:54,135 --> 01:22:59,207
is the $3,664,650 is associated

1588
01:22:59,207 --> 01:23:06,748
with bond payments. The trust, trust agents and the

1589
01:23:06,748 --> 01:23:08,950
admin charges, and any of the

1590
01:23:08,950 --> 01:23:10,451
remaining amounts associated

1591
01:23:10,451 --> 01:23:12,087
with the disposal of the

1592
01:23:12,087 --> 01:23:14,822
remaining properties. So that's

1593
01:23:14,822 --> 01:23:16,658
it for my presentation. On the

1594
01:23:16,658 --> 01:23:18,259
financial side, do I have any

1595
01:23:18,259 --> 01:23:19,661
comments or questions from the

1596
01:23:19,661 --> 01:23:23,298
board up here? Go ahead James.

1597
01:23:23,298 --> 01:23:25,300
Oh no. I just want to point out

1598
01:23:25,300 --> 01:23:26,501
I think this is one of the

1599
01:23:26,501 --> 01:23:28,303
examples where this is the

1600
01:23:28,303 --> 01:23:29,437
attachment that we were looking

1601
01:23:29,437 --> 01:23:30,805
for that shows the actuals

1602
01:23:30,805 --> 01:23:32,307
compared to some of the, I

1603
01:23:32,307 --> 01:23:33,007
think, the previous

1604
01:23:33,007 --> 01:23:34,309
presentations. And so we could

1605
01:23:34,309 --> 01:23:35,844
see that trend over time in the

1606
01:23:35,844 --> 01:23:37,645
last couple fiscal years. So

1607
01:23:37,645 --> 01:23:39,180
but and I recognize that we see

1608
01:23:39,180 --> 01:23:40,915
it in September and October. I

1609
01:23:40,915 --> 01:23:42,450
just want it present in front

1610
01:23:42,450 --> 01:23:47,087
of me again in January. Any

1611
01:23:47,087 --> 01:23:49,924
other questions or comments? No.

1612
01:23:49,924 --> 01:23:52,060
Okay. I now have Kevin just be

1613
01:23:52,060 --> 01:23:55,263
able to speak okay. Thank you.

1614
01:23:55,263 --> 01:23:56,331
Good morning, Mr. Chair.

1615
01:23:56,331 --> 01:23:57,465
Members of the board, my name

1616
01:23:57,465 --> 01:23:59,234
is Kevin McSweeney, community

1617
01:23:59,234 --> 01:24:01,769
development director. There are

1618
01:24:01,769 --> 01:24:04,305
three parcels. Two parcels are

1619
01:24:04,305 --> 01:24:05,707
abutting each other. And the

1620
01:24:05,707 --> 01:24:07,509
city completed the Surplus Land

1621
01:24:07,509 --> 01:24:08,610
Act for that property and

1622
01:24:08,610 --> 01:24:11,779
selected many mansions to

1623
01:24:11,779 --> 01:24:13,615
develop. They're proposing 50

1624
01:24:13,615 --> 01:24:16,484
low income units there. They

1625
01:24:16,484 --> 01:24:17,652
submitted an application. It's

1626
01:24:17,652 --> 01:24:20,188
an incomplete application.

1627
01:24:20,188 --> 01:24:21,623
Except for fees. They're paying

1628
01:24:21,623 --> 01:24:24,058
all fees. They're paying for

1629
01:24:24,058 --> 01:24:25,193
everything on the property. All

1630
01:24:25,193 --> 01:24:26,628
of our city attorney's time,

1631
01:24:26,628 --> 01:24:28,029
planning time and engineering

1632
01:24:28,029 --> 01:24:30,532
time to process that project.

1633
01:24:30,532 --> 01:24:33,468
Not you. That's those two

1634
01:24:33,468 --> 01:24:36,004
parcels. The third parcel is

1635
01:24:36,004 --> 01:24:38,973
510 Santa Clara Street. We went

1636
01:24:38,973 --> 01:24:40,608
through the Surplus Land Act.

1637
01:24:40,608 --> 01:24:42,076
Nobody wanted it because it's

1638
01:24:42,076 --> 01:24:44,612
small. There is a developer

1639
01:24:44,612 --> 01:24:45,747
interested in building it. We

1640
01:24:45,747 --> 01:24:47,849
are in negotiations with him.

1641
01:24:47,849 --> 01:24:50,018
There's one negotiation point

1642
01:24:50,018 --> 01:24:52,587
that we're trying to resolve.

1643
01:24:52,587 --> 01:24:55,089
Hope to have that resolved in

1644
01:24:55,089 --> 01:24:57,592
2026. And on that particular

1645
01:24:57,592 --> 01:24:59,493
property. We want to protect it

1646
01:24:59,493 --> 01:25:01,495
or secure it. And so if you see

1647
01:25:01,495 --> 01:25:03,364
our expenses is for new fencing

1648
01:25:03,364 --> 01:25:06,234
for that property. And that

1649
01:25:06,234 --> 01:25:08,403
project will also have some low

1650
01:25:08,403 --> 01:25:13,074
income, not not all of it. Okay.

1651
01:25:13,074 --> 01:25:14,509
Oh question. Is the mini

1652
01:25:14,509 --> 01:25:15,743
mansion project in conjunction

1653
01:25:15,743 --> 01:25:17,078
with the housing authority. Is

1654
01:25:17,078 --> 01:25:19,914
there separate. No. Right now

1655
01:25:19,914 --> 01:25:21,649
it's separate. They're doing it

1656
01:25:21,649 --> 01:25:24,219
solo for now. So I'm not sure

1657
01:25:24,219 --> 01:25:26,321
where it'll end up. Okay. Thank

1658
01:25:26,321 --> 01:25:31,059
you. Was there any other

1659
01:25:31,059 --> 01:25:33,695
questions? No. Okay. Well,

1660
01:25:33,695 --> 01:25:37,332
thank you very much. Do I have

1661
01:25:37,332 --> 01:25:40,968
a motion on the for City of

1662
01:25:40,968 --> 01:25:42,637
Fillmore? I motion to approve.

1663
01:25:42,637 --> 01:25:44,372
I'll second. Okay. We have a

1664
01:25:44,372 --> 01:25:46,307
first and a second. All in

1665
01:25:46,307 --> 01:25:48,676
favor, say aye. Aye. Any

1666
01:25:48,676 --> 01:25:50,878
opposed? Say no. None. Heard.

1667
01:25:50,878 --> 01:25:54,515
Motion passes six zero. Thank

1668
01:25:54,515 --> 01:25:55,650
you. Everybody here. I just

1669
01:25:55,650 --> 01:25:57,285
want to thank everybody in the

1670
01:25:57,285 --> 01:25:58,853
audience for being here and

1671
01:25:58,853 --> 01:26:01,656
going through all this today.

1672
01:26:01,656 --> 01:26:03,624
And do we have any other follow

1673
01:26:03,624 --> 01:26:08,129
up follow up here Robert okay.

1674
01:26:08,129 --> 01:26:10,632
So everybody's happy. Any other

1675
01:26:10,632 --> 01:26:13,201
comments from anybody. No. Okay.

1676
01:26:13,201 --> 01:26:16,404
Well motion to adjourn. Meeting

1677
01:26:16,404 --> 01:26:18,806
adjourned. Have a good day.

1678
01:26:18,806 --> 01:26:34,989
Thank you.