[This transcript was generated automatically from audio using AI and hasn't been reviewed by a person -- it can contain mistakes, including plausible-sounding sentences that were never actually said. Treat it as a starting point, not a verbatim record.] [3:56] We will call this meeting toward at 601. Can is there any additions to the agenda? [4:04] Seeing none? Can I ask somebody in motion to accept the agenda? [4:09] So I'll get on some of my stuff on the favor, post none carried moving on to adoption [4:21] of the previous minutes for July 14th, 2026, did anyone notice errors, one of missions, [4:32] any corrections? [4:35] See, none can ask, Sherry, wow, we are on the ball, Councilor Martin, sorry I called you [4:40] your first name, Council Martin. Go ahead. I move that the Council for the Town of [4:44] the Million approved the minutes from the regular Council meeting dated July 14th, [4:49] 2026 as presented. All in favour? Opposed. Seeing none, carried. And we will move on to [4:58] five delegations. I'll turn it over to administration. Thank you, Mayor. We have one [5:04] delegation this evening. Madison Black Emergency Management Coordinator for the City of [5:09] Minister and our Regional Emergency Management Collective Partner. We'll provide an overview of the borderlands mutual aid agreement and discuss the towns involvement and potential participation [5:19] Excellent. Welcome Madison. Thank you for joining us tonight [5:24] Don't mind the roof [5:28] The mice are quite heavy enough [5:32] We have the same problems and Lloyd no problem. Yeah, that's great [5:36] So I'll turn it over to you. Thank you for joining us tonight. Thank you for having me here worship and council [5:40] I'm here today with a recommendation that Council authorized the signing of the Borderlands Mutual Aid Agreement and that the mayor and CAO be authorized to sign and seal all town documents. [5:51] It is our recommendation that the town of a million enter into the Borderlands Mutual Aid Agreement for emergency management with participating municipalities in north, eastern, central Alberta, as well as north, eastern and western Saskatchewan. [6:06] Today, we have received 29 signatures from other communities in both Alberta and Saskatchewan [6:12] who have signed on to the agreement. [6:15] The mutual aid agreement is a critical component of emergency management operations in [6:19] both Alberta and Saskatchewan. [6:22] The agreement establishes a formal framework for participating municipalities to request and provide mutual [6:27] aid assistance, resources, personnel, and expertise in coordination during emergencies and [6:34] disasters that exceed the capability of the requesting municipality. [6:39] It ensures that during time-sensitive incidents, response partners can deploy resources quickly [6:45] without administrative delays. [6:47] By having all operational details clearly defined in advance, municipalities can focus solely [6:53] on response, knowing these elements are already addressed. [6:57] Signing onto this agreement reinforces our shared commitment to supporting each other across [7:01] the region. [7:02] The Borderlands Mutual Aid Agreement was originally created by the City of Woodmenster back in 2016. [7:09] After the agreement was formulated, the Government on Alberta, specifically Alberta Emergency Management Agency, assumed responsibility for administering the agreement. [7:20] Earlier this year, it was transferred back to the City of Woodmenster. [7:24] Earlier in the spring of this year, so around like February. [7:30] And we sent it out for re-signature. They agreement hadn't previously been resigned or updated since 2020, so it had been about a six-year period that had gone without updating of the agreement. [7:43] So historically, only a small number of municipalities were part of the agreement, which is why this year we focused on both incorporating both Alberta and Saskatchewan communities into the agreement. [7:54] Emergencies don't stop at just provincial borders, so it's important to recognize they can cross-circuit [7:59] jurisdictions and require a coordinated response. [8:03] The agreement does not obligate a municipality to provide assistance, [8:07] where doing so would compromise its own operational requirements. [8:10] Rather, it establishes a framework that enables assistance when resources are available. [8:16] By entering into this agreement, the town of Remelian will enhance regional resilience [8:20] improve access to specialized personal and equipment, strengthen inter municipal relationships, [8:27] and support a more effective and efficient response to emergencies in our region. [8:32] The agreement aligns with emergency management best practices that encourage neighboring jurisdictions [8:36] to establish rapid deployment of resources before during and after an emergency event occurs. [8:43] And with that, I'll turn it back to your worship for any questions. [8:49] I'll open up the Council of questions as he counts on my stuff. [8:54] Did we sign it back in 2006? [8:58] I'm sorry, Councilor Doug? [8:59] Did we sign it back in 2016? [9:02] It's a mine, all it's, I think you did. [9:04] Yeah. [9:05] Thank you. [9:08] Any other questions? [9:09] Councilor Snowgrove? [9:11] How many times have we used the mutual aid agreement, kind of, or an estimate on an annual basis? [9:16] How many times would we call upon it as the down from mine? [9:19] Thank you, Councilor Snowgrove. [9:20] So, the town of Ramilian hasn't, you, it like, in, you utilize the agreement within the last few years. [9:28] However, the City of Lake Minster has used it twice within the last two years. [9:33] So, in 2024, the Regional Municipality of Wood Buffalo reached out to the City of Lake Minster. [9:40] And we deployed two members of our administration to work in their emergency operations center during the Rocky River fires that lasted for about seven days. [9:48] And then last summer in 2025, the Village of Boyle requested mutual aid. [9:53] And we sent two members of our administration to work in their instant command post, [9:58] due to a wildfire and evacuation of the Village of Boyle. [10:02] So I think it depends on what's kind of occurring in the summer, [10:06] what different types of resources already deployed and like already available for a response that people would go. [10:13] and also the availability of whichever municipality is requesting resources or requesting for [10:21] participation in the agreement. [10:26] Any other questions? [10:28] Yes, I think this is a great idea. [10:31] I think in our current climate in Alberta and Canada, we're seeing more and more situations [10:40] where we need to work together and in going over the agreement, obviously there's it's [10:45] clear that if we need services here, we're going to keep them here, but if we have the availability, [10:52] of course, I think we should be making ourselves available and having other services available [10:57] to us as well. So I think it's a great step forward and any other questions? [11:08] Well, I guess that's it for questions, I would have a bit more, but that's us right on. [11:17] It is. [11:18] Yeah. [11:19] Don't much of a good argument about whether there is supply in the end. [11:25] Thank you, Councillor McDuff. [11:27] Yeah, the agreement, the benefit of the agreement is that it really [11:30] reduces administrative delays during emergencies. We've really learned from emergencies that have [11:36] been occurring in Alberta, BC, all throughout Canada that sometimes when you require resources [11:42] in emergencies, a big part of delay can be the administrative burden and that's what this agreement [11:47] gets rid of. It eliminates that so that it's already ready to go and then you can deploy whatever [11:52] resources you need in a more effective and a quicker manner, which can really make it make a big [11:59] in emergency. It's a very beneficial agreement. So thank you for your time. [12:03] Deputy Mayor Martin. Yeah, you're totally right, Madison. You know, the resources might [12:09] not be just boots on the ground. It's in the office too, right? So I think 2016 we deployed to [12:15] Wood Buffalo. And I know we've had other members go to Jasper in different places throughout the [12:20] province. So yeah, it's, like you say, an agreement's pretty straightforward and we're always [12:25] here to help us bumps in the road is worth it so yeah thank you very much appreciate you [12:36] taking the time yeah I think we all agree this is this is a great step forward and I'm not sure [12:44] why we weren't signed up before but it's good that we're getting on there now and yeah in 2016 yeah [12:51] Yeah. [12:52] It's just not in the 2020. [12:54] Yeah. [12:56] Yeah. [12:56] So, I don't know. [12:57] Yeah. [12:58] Thank you. [12:59] Okay. [13:00] Thank you so much. [13:04] Okay. [13:05] We will move on to 5.2, the resigning the border agreement. [13:10] And I'll turn it over to administration again. [13:16] Thank you, Mayor Snow. [13:18] In consideration of the presentation by Madison Black, we would now ask if Council would [13:22] in agreement of approving the town of Remelien's participation in the Borderlands mutual aid agreement and if so then we would [13:28] I would sign and then we would ask that you would sign as we already said I think it's a great idea [13:35] I think it's a good step forward that we need to do to protect our own community [13:40] But also to ensure that we are there to support those around us as well [13:45] So any other discussions? [13:49] I think administration has already talked with Madison and stuff over some other events that we've had in our town so to have that open communication and that availability to more infrastructure if needed to help out in the emergency response, it's always a good thing so. [14:07] Thank you. Councillor Connell. [14:10] Is there any costs associated with this signing? [14:15] No. [14:16] I just don't know. [14:19] And I do appreciate that the agreement does outline a cost recovery as well in there. [14:25] So it's very as a few kilisters have said it's very thorough and straightforward equally. [14:33] How does this tie in with our current emergency management agreements with the communities in this region? [14:41] So that's one of the separate, so our regional emergency management collective agreement is independent from this agreement, but as part of that collective, the recommendation was brought forward to participate in this. [14:53] Some of the members that are part of the Borderlands Agreement are not part of the regional emergency agreement. [15:00] It is also covered under our inimitable collaboration framework, so we reference a disaster services agreement within that agreement, and that would be referencing the borderlands, mutual aid agreement if we so choose to participate. [15:13] Thank you. Any other questions? [15:18] I guess I just have one more. Do we have any information on why we never resigned up in 2020? [15:26] I do not, and if I located at some point in time, I'd be sure to share it, but as of right now I wasn't able to locate anything as to why we didn't sign in the past. [15:34] Perfect, thank you. [15:36] Okay, I'll ask for a motion. Councilor Conlon. [15:41] I move to the council for a 10 or a million approved mayor in CAO to sign onto the Borderlands Mutual Aid Agreement. [15:49] Questions? All in favor? [15:52] Opposed? [15:53] see a nun carried excellent [16:00] six point or six business arising from [16:04] prior meetings I see there's nun and we'll move on to seven new business seven point one [16:10] twenty twenty seven budget survey results. I'll turn it over to administration. [16:16] Thank you very soon and I will turn it over to Maryland. [16:21] Thank you, good evening Mayor [16:23] Council. The town of Vermilion conducted its 2027 municipal budget survey between July 7th [16:30] and July 31st to better understand the resident priorities and expectations for the municipal [16:35] services, infrastructure investments, and long-term financial planning. A total of 143 responses [16:42] were received, which it matches the participation levels from the previous year's survey, [16:47] and it provided valuable insight into the community preferences as well as the budget priorities. [16:53] These findings will help inform the development of the 2027 operating and capital budgets, [16:59] while ensuring that the community's perspectives remain an important component in the budget decision-making process. [17:05] We'd like to start by thanking everyone who took time to participate in providing your inputs and to help shape the future of the town of our millions budget. [17:14] Survey participation reflected a broad cross-section of the community with particularly strong representation [17:20] From resident homeowners and working age adults providing council and administration with valuable insight into the community priorities for 2027. [17:32] The town has worked to improve the way that the town communicates with the public with the aim of ensuring that information is shared often and is clear and concise. [17:41] The survey showed that residents generally feel informed and satisfied with the town's communications which is also in alignment with feedback that [17:50] administration has received from residents throughout the year as well. [17:54] As with anything, there is always an opportunity to strengthen transparency and administration [17:59] is committed to doing so in the future. [18:02] Social media, as well as utility bill inserts, do remain the most preferred method of communication [18:08] by our residents. [18:13] In reviewing what is important to the community for priorities, the community was consistent [18:18] on wanting to see the town focus on expansion of residential housing units, maintaining [18:23] transportation infrastructure and business attraction and retention. [18:30] It is important for the [18:31] town to provide ongoing maintenance and necessary improvements and repairs to town facilities [18:36] throughout the life of the asset. This is important to maintain the asset and extend its life. [18:43] As infrastructure ages, capital expenditures are required to ensure that our facilities remain safe, [18:48] functional and capable of meeting our future needs. When asked which facilities [18:53] the public would like to see the town focus improvements on or possible [18:58] expansions if required. The arena stadium was the top choice very closely followed by the [19:05] fire hall. Next was the Midtown Medical Clinic closely followed by the airport. [19:12] These are facilities that administration had also identified internally and plans to [19:16] proceed with facility condition assessments in 2027, pending budget approval. [19:21] This will help us gain a comprehensive understanding of the current facility condition and help identify future capital and maintenance requirements to support long-term asset management. [19:35] The survey also asks residents where they would like to spend more, less or maintain current service levels when it comes to the number of infrastructure and maintenance services. [19:45] Overall, the results showed strong support for maintaining core infrastructure services with little support for reductions. [19:52] Sidewalk and snow removal show the strongest support for increased spending, indicating that [19:57] these are key service areas that the public finds value in any additional investment [20:02] if required. [20:04] In 2026, Council Administration increased funding and service levels for snow removal and [20:09] this survey, as well as feedback received throughout last winter, does show that the change [20:14] was welcomed and the community would like to see that continue. [20:18] Across all categories relatively few respondents supported major spending reductions, this will indicate that residents generally value these services and want to maintain or slightly enhance the community's infrastructure and maintenance programs will balancing the affordability considerations in the budget process. [20:38] The next section of the survey did ask residents about funding priorities for parks, wreck and community beautification programs. [20:45] Overall, the strongest trend across all categories was to support the maintaining of current [20:51] service levels, indicating, again, that residents are generally satisfied with these services [20:56] the town is providing. [20:58] The provincial parks throughout is one of the areas with the strongest support for increase [21:02] investment. [21:04] This confirms that the park is a value community asset and many residents see opportunities [21:08] for future enhancement or development. [21:11] Being the park is owned by the province and the town is limited on enhancement. [21:15] However, administration has been working closely with the province on the operations as the park, as well as the future opportunities for the park. [21:24] The town was also pleased to bring back the ice cream sales to the park this year, which appears to have been a positive addition to the park space as well. [21:31] Neighborhood Parks and Playgrounds also received very strong support overall, and this demonstrates the importance that residents place on accessible recreational spaces, family amenities, and the overall neighborhood quality of life. [21:46] Overall, residents express broad satisfaction with current parks, wreck and beautification services, as maintaining existing spending levels was the most common response across all of the categories. [21:56] For million provincial park, arena and recreation facilities and parks and playgrounds and [22:01] tree care showed the strongest interest for additional investment, whereas residents were [22:06] more likely to support maintaining or potentially slight decrease in spending on seasonal [22:11] flowers and grass cutting. [22:16] We then asked the public if they would support a modest increase to [22:19] user fees if it would potentially offset a property tax increase. This was an important question [22:25] because it speaks directly to how the... [22:30] While property taxes are paid with all by all property owners, user fees apply more directly to individuals who access specific programs or services. [22:41] The responses indicate that residents are willing to consider changes to user fees as part of the town's overall funding model. [22:48] Provided there is a clear connection to maintaining the service levels and managing those tax implications and impacts. [22:55] These results provide valuable insight into the community's expectations around our municipal finances. [23:02] Residents understand the need to balance our service delivery affordability and long-term sustainability. [23:08] As a administration and council consider our future budget, these results will help us inform the decisions [23:13] about the appropriate balance between property tax revenue as well as our user supported fees. [23:20] We asked the public how important it was to invest in long-term infrastructure and this [23:26] was important because this is the infrastructure that our residents rely on every day, such [23:31] as our roads, sidewalks, parks, underground facilities, recreation facilities. [23:36] The survey shows that the importance of continuing to build on reserves, plan for future [23:41] capital needs and make informed investment decisions around the community assets. [23:45] While affordability remains important to the community, there is a clear recognition that maintaining and replacing assets at the right time is essential. [23:56] Lastly, we did ask residents to consider a difficult but very real decision that municipalities face every year in the budget discussions and it is a municipal tax increase. [24:07] So respondents were told that a 1% increase in municipal taxation would generate approximately $62,000 in additional revenue for the town. [24:17] 41% showed support for higher taxes to move forward with priority projects, and 59% indicated [24:24] they would prefer to delay projects to keep our taxes lower. [24:29] Administration felt this question was a very important question to include in the budget [24:33] process to show the public how much a 1% tax increase would create in the general revenue [24:38] for the municipality. [24:40] This was not to advocate for large tax increases, but it was meant to provide context [24:45] so the residents can understand the scale of municipal finances, [24:49] as well as the limited revenue that a tax adjustment will generate. [24:53] For example, the town is currently addressing any margin and unplanned bleak at the stadium and curly ranked ice plants. [25:00] And we need to fix this to ensure that our municipality can operate those facilities in our upcoming winter season. [25:07] The repairs are estimated at $52,000. [25:10] Presenting this information in this manner helps us to illustrate the financial realities and how even relatively small capital repairs or unexpected emergencies can quickly consume the revenue generated from even a modest tax increase. [25:24] While the majority of survey respondents, favored delay in projects, the results do not suggest that [25:30] it residents necessarily oppose investment altogether. In fact, in the survey, residents [25:36] expressed strong support for maintaining infrastructure and long-term asset management. What the [25:41] results suggest is that the residents want to see those investments be carefully planned, be [25:46] phased out, and balance the community needs as well as the towns affordability. [25:52] This question is [25:52] to clearly relevant to the town of Ermilian, earlier this year, through our audit and annual [25:57] financial reporting to the province. [26:00] The province did flag that the town's infrastructure assets are depreciating faster than [26:04] the Airbnb renewed or upgraded. [26:06] In simple terms, our roads, facilities, and overall infrastructure is wearing out faster than [26:11] the town has been reinvesting in our assets. [26:15] Now, that doesn't necessarily mean previous council or administration was negligent. [26:19] It's just a challenge that's being experienced by every municipality in Alberta, as our maintenance and replacement costs increase in our infrastructure ages. [26:28] However, it does indicate the importance for the town to invest in 18 infrastructure before it's too late, and then we are set with full replacements instead of maintenance and upgrades. [26:40] As many municipalities across Alberta are experiencing infrastructure continues to age and replacement costs continue to rise. [26:47] Delane necessary projects can sometimes provide short-term tax relief, but it can also [26:52] create larger financial pressures in the future, and that's one item that we wanted [26:55] to flag for consideration. [26:58] Deferred investments can result in faster infrastructure deterioration, reduced reserve [27:02] balances, increasing emergency repairs, higher replacement costs, and fewer options when [27:08] our assets eventually do need replacement. [27:12] Overall, this 2027 budget survey demonstrated that residents understand there are trade-offs [27:17] every budget decision. [27:19] While a majority would prefer lower taxes overall where possible, they also recognize the need [27:24] to maintain an investing critical infrastructure where it is properly planned and thoughtful [27:29] and strategic. [27:30] They want to see that our projects are properly prioritized, cost communicated clearly, [27:35] and the investments are faced in plan appropriately. [27:39] There is support in maintaining important infrastructure, and the public expects the town [27:44] to carefully manage the timing and the financial impact [27:47] of those investments. [27:49] So our challenge during this budget season [27:51] is going to be finding the right balance [27:52] between affordability today and sustainability [27:55] for tomorrow. [27:56] I now turn it back to you for any questions. [27:59] I hope to cancel for questions. [28:06] Because one question I had to have is, [28:08] did we get any feedback from the public [28:10] on how they felt the survey benefited them [28:14] or if they liked it or if they didn't like it? [28:17] I did not in administratively. I'm not sure if Council did hear any feedback. [28:26] Councillor Snowcroft. [28:28] Yeah, thanks for the presentation. This is a lot of good information we can use in our deliberations [28:33] going forward. A couple of questions I had. Do we kind of track any changes from public opinion [28:39] like the previous year survey? I think one specific example would have been the [28:43] how people feel about our transparency [28:45] is that increasing decreasing and, you know, [28:48] a lot of indicators. [28:48] I know we asked slightly different questions every year [28:51] that would be similar, but is there any major changes [28:53] year over year? [28:55] We did try to have some different questions to get the data [28:58] that's important to this administration, [29:00] but also try to keep a lot of the questions the same, [29:02] so we could see trends from the communications standpoint. [29:06] We were seeing a slight increase [29:07] in the satisfaction of the communications, [29:09] but when it came to how residents wanted to be communicated, [29:12] It was pretty straight across the board from last year to this year. [29:22] Another one of particular importance was user fees. [29:26] So last year's budget there was not a large survey response in favor of increasing user fees. [29:34] They would actually rather not increase user fees and instead increase taxes. [29:38] Whereas this year we saw the complete opposite with the same number of respondents. [29:47] Any other questions? [29:49] Yes, this was excellent and I think it's important to put these surveys out to hear from [29:56] our residents. [30:00] Number of respondents last year and this year. So to the folks that responded, thank you guys very much. [30:07] It does help administration and council make decisions moving forward. [30:13] If there's no other questions, I'll ask somebody to receive this as information. [30:17] Councillor Conlon. [30:19] I moved at the council for town of Remyon, received the 27 budget survey results report as information. [30:25] All in favour? Opposed? Seeing none, agreed. [30:32] We'll move on to 7.2. Amendment to sign in authority [30:36] policy number 25-11. [30:41] I will turn it back over to Maryland. Thank you. The town of [30:47] Vermilion, signing authority policy was approved at the June 24th 2025 regular council meeting. [30:53] Since that time, the organizational structure of Townsend Administration has changed with the addition of a reclassification for a finance manager. [31:02] As such, administration is proposing some amendments to the policy to align with our current organizational structure. [31:09] Some amendments include a finance manager is now added as the legal financial signing authority. [31:15] investments required two signatures from finance manager, ELT or the CAO. [31:22] Land agreements were changed to be the economic development officer or an ELT member, [31:27] plus the CAO has to be the second signature. [31:31] And then we updated void to be renamed to align with the recent legislative changes. [31:36] So I now turn it back to council for any questions. [31:39] How will prop to Council? [31:44] Deputy Mayor Martin. [31:46] With those changes from what was their previous, I was trying to remember that going into the. [31:56] Was, do we just not have finance manager as a title in there? [32:00] Was that the biggest change per se? [32:02] That is the biggest change. [32:04] It wasn't included. [32:06] We have also implemented with some financial institutions for our investments, [32:09] the signing authority being the finance manager or myself as well as the CAO and in the event [32:16] because it needs two signatures that one of us is a way we could go to another ELT member [32:21] in trying to update all the other financial institutions that the town does have funds currently [32:28] held with. Some required an update in the policy to specify the finance manager on there so that's why [32:35] We're mostly bringing it forward. [32:37] Also, investments used to be the same as some of the other financial items like banking [32:42] institutions and checks in the policy, where it was two legal financial signatories, [32:47] which includes the mayor, because the mayor signs checks, but we took the mayor off of [32:52] investments and kept it strictly at the administrative level. [33:00] Any other questions? [33:04] Can we scroll down because I would be good to anyone watching or the folks in the gallery. [33:08] I know you actually have in red the areas that have been changed. [33:18] Also, Lansale agreements previously were two legal financial signing authorities, which included [33:24] the mayor or another member of the executive team, but we felt it was important that the CIO [33:30] for sure be able to sign every land agreement, so that was one of the main drivers behind that change as well. [33:46] Any other questions? [33:47] Deputy Mayor Martin? [33:49] I guess not only question my line on that planning and development, does it need to have a, [33:54] I guess you have the ELT member and CEO for your land salaryments, but would you want [34:00] here financial manager or yourself to be part of that? [34:03] Did you are handling the money side of the world? [34:06] Yes, for the actual signing, we left it more open, so it could be the development, the economic [34:13] Development Officer or any ELT member, as well as Shannon. [34:18] The CIO and the Economic Development Officer, as well as the Planning and Development Officer, [34:23] are very good at keeping the finance manager and myself involved in all of the land sale [34:27] negotiations. [34:28] And as soon as they are signed, they do provide us with copies so that we can be tracking the [34:32] payments. [34:34] So, administratively, this works for us. [34:36] I guess with the spot where we've removed the mayor's signing, is that's kind of the representative of Council. [34:48] What's the general practice for most municipalities? [34:52] I know in the past that I always seem like you have the representative of Council sign as well as administration. [34:59] It kind of brings up both the governance and administration together on a document. [35:05] What's the general practice for municipalities our size? [35:09] Are you thinking from the investment side or the land sales side or from the land sales side? [35:15] We'll give in that there is a land sales policy and there is Shannon can correct me if I'm incorrect. [35:22] But the council passes the lot the lot sales prices and there is a policy that guides administration on how to negotiate those land sales. [35:30] So as long as it's within Council's policy, I believe it would be fine to be approved by administration. [35:36] Generally, a Councillor or Mayor would sign an item that is approved by Council. [35:42] And if not all the land sales come to Council, then we just thought it would make sense to have it administrative approved. [35:48] And for the investment side? [35:50] And from the investment side, we just did that purely from an administrative operational standpoint. [35:57] So, when we had first started here, our finance manager in myself, we had set up with the one investment firm to be two signatures from ELT finance manager or CAO, my previous experience I've never had. [36:12] I remember of council signing when it comes to investments, they come up quite frequent that we're reinvesting and we just felt that it was more appropriate for administration as opposed to having to call a member of council into sign. [36:24] that's perfect. Thank you. I just wanted to bring clarification for any one listening. [36:31] Any other questions? [36:34] Okay, if not, can I have somebody move to accept this? [36:42] Or to motion at my apologies? Can Deputy Mayor Martin? [36:47] I moved at the council for the town of Ramayana, approved the signing authority policy number 25-11 as presented. [36:54] All in favor? [36:57] Opposed? [36:57] Seeing none carried. [37:05] 7.3, [37:07] Vermillionsian Station Preservation Society. [37:11] I'll turn it over to administration. [37:13] Thank you, Mayor Snow. [37:15] So the next item before Council relates to the newly established Vermillionsian Station Preservation Society. [37:21] They're a non-profit organization focused on preserving and supporting the future of the Vermillionsian station. [37:30] Council representative to participate as a member of the organization. As appointments to external boards and organizations are made by council, the request is before council for consideration. [37:39] A point in the representative would help maintain a connection between the society and the town. [37:44] It would support communication between the two groups and keep Council informed of the society's activities and objectives. [37:51] Council's role this evening would be to determine who if anyone will serve on that board. [37:56] And then that will help us in our ongoing negotiations and discussions with the province as it relates to the future of this year's station. [38:02] I would turn it over to for any questions. [38:05] Thank you. And I'd open up for any nominations or volunteers. I can answer my [38:15] stuff with your question. How soon do they want this representative on the board [38:20] can update to the organization and I'll talk about [38:27] it. [38:27] So they didn't specify a specific timeline by which they wanted a pointed representative. [38:32] That being said, administration plans on bringing the engineering report and an overview [38:35] of that report regarding the condition of the CN station to our September 2st, I've been [38:41] messing this up all week. The first committee meeting of the month in September, I believe [38:46] it might be the first of September, so my apologies there for the air. But we plan on bringing [38:51] that report to that meeting for Council's consideration. And then if Council were to [38:56] appoint a member today, that would serve to guide those discussions between now and [39:00] October, as we are working with the province on whether or not they are going to be transferring [39:04] that asset to us. So we are hoping that at the organizational meeting once Council has a thorough [39:09] understanding and discussion of what the implications are of that report. By the following [39:13] meeting in September we'll be able to make a determination as to whether or not Council will be [39:18] approving any financial contributions or in-kind contributions as part of the 2027 budget which will [39:24] determine how active we are in participating in the preservation of the CN station. [39:33] Thank you. Any other [39:35] questions. Councillor McDuff is a society, a society, and they've been approved by the [39:42] Alberta government. I did not do a paperwork check, but they did come forward with [39:48] that name. So I'm hoping and assuming that they have all their documents in order, but [39:52] I cannot confirm that at this time. I can speak to that. So they had a meeting with the [39:58] public to discuss if they want to have a society. The group had that meeting confirmed [40:04] they all voted on it that they do want to have a society now they have to move forward with [40:09] the paperwork. [40:10] So I believe they're using a lady from community development with the government of Alberta [40:16] and she's going to help them through the process of establishing a proper society so it's [40:22] a non-profit. [40:24] But they do have a plan for their first meeting where they're going to be electing their executive [40:29] so a chairperson, vice chair, chair, chair, and they'll be going forward from there. [40:35] So I'm guessing we'll be getting some more information on that as they become more [40:40] established. [40:45] Deputy Mayor Merton, since it's kind of at the start of the inception, would it be wise to [40:50] put it as almost like a subcommittee under Parks Reck and Culture until they are set up [40:55] and then our reorganization on the hot October to a point, just so that we do have representation, [41:00] you know myself and Councilor Clark can attend if they have any meetings coming up and [41:05] we'll see you to say it for me because I'm here in Clark's not but just a thought [41:11] anyway is not until they're set up but thank you. [41:17] Was there any does anyone want to respond sorry [41:23] Councilor Snowberg? [41:24] Yeah I think Deputy Mayor Martin raises a reasonable point right we don't [41:29] exactly all of this committee looks like yet and if we are set for a re-organized year [41:34] if we change committees it might make sense at that point all at once. [41:36] I'm in support of the idea, I think we probably should have representative on the committee. [41:41] It's so early in the process, do we have to make a decision tonight? [41:45] It might be better just to do it as a larger part. [41:48] If we've got it on our schedule coming up to do a bit of a re-organized work well. [41:55] Thank you. [41:57] I think that's a good idea and I think that's what I'm hearing. [41:59] I'll just finish please. [42:02] That's what I'm hearing across the council is, you know, they, and I think it makes sense [42:07] to have them establish their parameters first and come to us and then put that request [42:13] in once they've established what their board and their committee looks like. [42:18] And I agree 100% I think at that time it would be very valuable for us to be involved [42:24] that I know as the town we have a big connection to the sea and station. We would be involved in [42:33] possibly taking it from the province and working with the nonprofits to take it over. Go ahead, Chen. [42:41] I'm only coming to Councillor Martin's suggestion is that if we are going to proceed in that direction [42:46] in terms of appointing, I'm a member from the Parks and Culture to attend, we'll need a motion from [42:51] council to ensure that remuneration is paid. If we don't appoint a council member through a committee appointment, then it would not be an eligible expense under council remuneration. [43:00] So just making sure that we're clear that this would be an approved expense for those per DMs for attending those meetings. [43:09] Deputy Mayor. [43:13] Just to that point, if it was myself coming through parts of Iraq, I probably wouldn't worry about remuneration till their reorganization. [43:20] As of being the inception, it's, you know, you're still worth to be done and there's no need to be funding that way for me anyway. [43:28] So yeah. [43:30] My thought is, if we're not going to move forward with this night that we stay out of it until they actually come to us with a proper committee and have everything in place. [43:42] I feel like if we just kind of bump it to Parks and Rec and then change it later, we kind [43:47] of cause a little bit of confusion that's maybe not needed. [43:51] If they have a plan and they come to Council or to Administration to Council and say, [43:57] here's our structure, we, so we've built a committee, it has a chairperson, it has a vice [44:04] chair and so on and so on and we would like representation on this committee or board at [44:10] time. I think that's when we should maybe move forward with this. I feel like just because [44:16] if we have representation from one committee as kind of a sub project and then halfway through [44:23] their process, a point to different member of council, it does kind of muddy it a bit. [44:43] Can't [44:43] and it's we're so active members of the community we can participate regardless if we're [44:49] appointed by council if there's one or two meetings. I think that some of the council's [44:53] at least I believe some of you've made the last meeting. [45:00] I think it's best just to leave it blank until we do the official appointment. [45:06] I agree with that. I think that's probably, instead of putting the car before the horse. [45:16] Any other questions? Then we'll need a motion. Our deputy member and my apologies. [45:23] I'll get the move that the council for the town of Ramilian received the request to appoint a council member as represented to this Ramilian C& Station Preservation Society as information. [45:35] All in favor? [45:37] Post. [45:38] Seeing none, carried. [45:41] I do look forward to them bringing it back because I think it's a great opportunity for our community and to see and I don't know. [45:51] Councilor Martin, if you want to speak to it, but to see the involvement that that first meeting was very impressive. [46:00] Yes, so the mayor and I attended the CN station meeting on August 11th. [46:08] And I would say there was about 40 plus people at that meeting, all very enthusiastic about which I am as well. [46:18] So, [46:21] if I am on the town, representing the town that's fine, if I'm not, I'm still gonna go [46:27] the meetings because I have a real interest in that building. I told the mayor, my great [46:33] grandfather was one of the last station agents in that building, William Waterfield. So, yeah, [46:40] I'd like to bring it back to its former glory and I'm sure my husband and son had a bridal [46:47] are like when he was getting married I'm sure the bridal shower was in that building so it's [46:53] uh that's my neighbor too right I like to walk by when I go down to the park so be nice to [46:58] be able to have access to it again and see it so yeah thank you okay we'll move on 7.4 [47:08] northeast Alberta Information Hub Committee Council appointments turn over to administration [47:13] Thank you, Mayor Snow, so before you is another committee appointment change, Councillor Bruce McDuff is currently appointed as the town's representative on the North East Alberta Information Hub Committee. [47:26] Since that appointment was made, Mayor Roberts Snow has now assumed the role of chair, and we're excited about that, that's a big change for us. [47:35] I think prior to that, it was Gerald Ors from the City of Lloyd Minister for quite some [47:39] times. [47:39] So it's a great honor for the town of Remelian to be represented in that capacity. [47:43] So thank you. [47:45] Administration is now recommending that Council update our appointment to reflect the committee's [47:49] current leadership structure. [47:51] So the proposed change would be to appoint Mayor Snow as the town's representative and thereby [47:56] replacing Councillor Bruce McDuff as our committee's structure currently stipulates only [48:00] one member of Council with sit on that board. [48:02] I'll turn it over to Council for discussion. [48:06] I'll just say we kind of did a little backwards but the movement came up and I appreciate [48:13] conversations with Councillor McDuff and we kind of thought it was for the best. [48:19] So here we are today. [48:21] Councillor McDuff, did you want to speak to it at all? [48:23] Sure, I [48:30] think that the mayor, because when I was mayor, I was on that board so I think the mayor should be one of the representatives because I think it's a very important group and I will graciously redelent my position to you. [48:47] Thank you, sir. [48:49] Any other questions, comments? [48:52] Can that someone make a motion? [48:54] Councillor Conwell? [48:56] I move the Council for the Town of Remelian approved the revised committee listing as presented, [49:01] appointing Mayor Robert Snow as the Town of Remelian Representative to the North East Alberta Information Hub Committee. [49:09] All in favor? [49:11] Opposed. [49:12] Seeing none carried. [49:14] Thank you. [49:15] Council. [49:15] Thank you. [49:16] Give in me that opportunity. [49:21] 7.5, Parks Recreation Culture and Environmental Committee Terms of Reference and Bi-Law [49:28] Repeal. [49:29] I'll turn over to administration. [49:31] Thank you, Maristole, and I will turn it over to you, Hen. [49:35] Good evening, Mayor and Council. [49:37] I bring forward to you this evening for the request for a decision of the Parks Recreation [49:42] Culture and Environment and Environmental Committee Terms of Reference and Bi-Law [49:46] appeal. A little bit of background overall administration has completed a review of the Parks [49:53] Recreation Culture Board as well as the Environment Committee and attempt to formalize the [49:58] composition and roles of the committee. Administration has brought forward a new terms of [50:02] reference for the Parks Recreation Culture and Environment Committee. The terms of reference [50:07] were emailed out to the committee Friday August 7th and with feedback requested by Monday August 10th [50:14] In hindsight, this timeline was rather short as such. [50:18] We welcome feedback beyond August 10th through to August 17th at the March 30th Parks Recreation [50:26] Culture and Committee meeting held at the Vermillion Public Library. [50:29] The committee reviewed the current bylaw and recommended several amendments. [50:33] The first proposed amendment would allow the committee chair to be a member of Council [50:37] aligning with the committee structure with that of the other town advisory and external committees. [50:42] The second proposed amendment would revise the board composition and these provisions would identify specific categories of public members for appointment. [50:51] The committee recommended that the board consists of no more than 15 members and they're included in this RFD. [51:01] The committee also recommended amending the board's powers and duties and selection to include environmental services. [51:07] that we revised the wording would state that the board is responsible for advising matters, [51:12] affecting parks, recreation, culture and environmental services in the town and support [51:16] of the town's strategic plan as amended from time to time. Well, the committee may recommend [51:22] amendments authority to approve changes to the bylaw in the terms of references, [51:28] rest with town council. Administration has no concerns with proposed amendment allowing [51:33] council member to serve as chair and notes that this would be a straightforward revision [51:38] to the terms of reference, although it might cause some conflicting views with other members [51:44] within the committee. Administration does however note that the proposed changes to the board [51:52] composition could create the challenges in maintaining full membership of qualified candidates [51:57] from the specified groups are unavailable or unwilling to serve. [52:02] More general wording provides greater flexibility in appointments and helps ensure the [52:06] committee can maintain quorum and have a full competent panel of members. [52:11] That said, she counseled wish to adopt the more perspective composition proposed by the committee [52:16] and administration can incorporate those changes into the terms of reference. [52:20] Administration is undertaking a review of committee governance and is proposing that the [52:24] transition from bylaws to the terms of reference. [52:30] The terms of reference provide a more flexible framework in allowing updates to committee mandates, composition, operational requirements without necessitating formal bylaw amendments each time changes are required. [52:45] This also ensures bylaws that are being repealed and multiple bylaws for the same purpose as this case here aren't affected at the same time. [52:53] Council approval of the terms of reference would formalize the establishment of roles of the committee as such the original bylaws for the committee's established would no longer be required [53:02] Administration is recommending the appeal of the outdated bylaws should Council approve the terms of reference to remain consistent with the committee structure and to ensure the towns governing documents are current. [53:14] I pass it back to you. [53:15] Thank you. [53:16] Now, I'll open up for questions. [53:21] Council and Mactaf. [53:23] I'd like to ask you, administration, if all of the advisory committee, [53:28] so that may have to do believe the airport's advice, [53:31] we can then push that up under. [53:41] I can answer that question. [53:43] So the airport advisory committee, Vermilion River, [53:46] regional alliance, physician, [53:47] health, and retention and recruitment committee, [53:51] are all terms of reference. [53:52] most I think in reviewing the town bylaws, the Park's Reck and Culture is one of the only external [53:58] committee boards and appointments that are governed by a bylaw, everything else is a terms [54:01] of reference. They're just easier to amend, so if we need to make a change, we can make it easier [54:06] without having to do one, two, three readings of the bylaw. [54:12] Any other questions, Councilor Snowgirl? [54:15] Yeah, more of Mr. Satan that I agree with administration's recommendation of moving this in terms of [54:20] reference, and I agree that using the more general terms and wording would be beneficial. [54:28] If you get too prescriptive of any policy, it really can box you in and make it harder to work. [54:32] And I don't think that's the intent of this committee, right? [54:35] We want to get people involved as much as we can. [54:38] So I agree with administrations recommendations. [54:42] Thank you. [54:43] Councillor Collin? [54:44] I just thought it was kind of as cool as I was reading through this. [54:46] Well, it goes all the way back to 1987 with Mayor Hughes. [54:50] There's quite a few mayors signed in here and got Mr. McDuff, [54:54] comes from the Bufswick. [54:56] But yeah, it's interesting to see how far back this goes. [54:58] And this committee's run very deep in the community for many, many years. [55:01] So I think this will streamline it as time has changed. [55:07] Thank you. [55:08] Deputy Mayor Martin. [55:10] Yeah, I think the administration has done a good job of kind of going through all the historical [55:14] bylaws and trying to associated and get them up to date and now understanding the terms of [55:21] reference being a little bit more like you say don't get too early down the rabbit hole right [55:27] so no I think this is a good move some some don't like change but it's better change going forward [55:33] so. Thank you. I know you said you put a ole for feedback and then extended it to the 17th. [55:41] What was some of the feedback that you guys received? [55:46] One particular mention was the question regarding whether a member of council should [55:54] be a chair on the board. [55:57] Now with that for the advisory committees to be chaired by a public member rather than elected [56:03] official because it reinforces the committee's role as an independent advisory committee [56:07] and council member serves as a chair rather than can be perceived that council is directing [56:13] the committee and with a public member that would allow that information to be brought [56:20] forward to council. [56:21] So using the council members as more as like a liaison in that position. [56:26] Excellent. [56:27] Thank you. [56:28] If there's no other questions, can I have a motion? [56:32] Councilor McDuff. I'd like to move to the Council of the [56:36] Town of the Millions through the Part Regulation Conference of [56:39] Larmach, many terms of reference as presented and I'd also like to [56:43] move to the Council for the Town of the Millions you're first reading to [56:46] receiving a bylaws 6-2-0-26 being a bylaw and to the field final number 12-19-7-5-1-9-9-3- [57:01] Number 5, 2010 and by law number 4, 2014. [57:09] Thank you. [57:11] On favor, opposed sin none carried. [57:19] Can we go into second and third for that repeal or do we have to wait? [57:25] Oh, sorry, go ahead. [57:27] You do not have to wait, but we did not include second and third just based on Council's previous [57:32] direction of not bringing forward all three readings and administratively. If we want to proceed, [57:37] it's quicker on RN to get those moving forward and get those repealed. If not, they will come [57:42] to the September meeting, which I believe is on the 15th. Okay. I looked at council further and put [57:50] I know we went to the second and third postponed because of financial and consideration for stuff [57:58] that we wanted to fall over and get more information back, [58:01] but I feel like repealings not in the same context. [58:07] Councilor Colin? [58:09] I'm okay with continuing some, [58:10] the only thing I would say is that since this is [58:13] in the community so deep all the way back to 1987, [58:16] I'm further, I believe, maybe it's okay to wait [58:19] till the next one case, [58:20] somebody else does have any more things to be informed, [58:21] because that is very old bile to been here [58:24] in a very long-standing committee. [58:26] That's fair enough. [58:29] Will Councillor Snowberg? [58:31] Yeah. [58:32] I agree with that. [58:33] Send them from Councillor Fondland. [58:35] I think it's just good government to process to give the community time to react. [58:39] And so we've indicated what this council wants to do. [58:44] And now our community members have time to digest that information and provide more feedback [58:49] if they feel differently. [58:50] I think that's both of those are good advice and look forward to it coming back to our next [58:56] council. [58:56] We need to [59:04] fund to 7.6, approval of new in-term cemetery fees and charges, and I'll turn [59:11] over to administration. [59:13] Thank you, Mayor Snow, and I will turn it back over to you, Hen. [59:19] Hello again. [59:20] This is my second to three. [59:24] So this is for the approval of the new in-term cemetery fees and charges, and so administration [59:30] has completed a review of the town of a million semeteries fees and charges to ensure that the fees [59:35] associated with cemetery operations maintenance and perpetual care appropriately reflect the costs [59:42] of providing these services. The current cemetery free structure has not undergone a comprehensive review [59:48] for several years and no longer reflects the current operational and service delivery costs. The proposed [59:55] if he's scheduled establish a [1:00:00] Range of Cemetery Services, which are attached, [1:00:07] including, so in the attached segment, there is [1:00:11] a column-barium services such as niche pricing, maintenance, engraving, opening closing services, [1:00:19] cemetery plot services for full-barials or urn-barials. And also, as seasonal weekday or weekend or holiday rates [1:00:29] that are subject to that. [1:00:32] Administration is also currently developing a comprehensive fees and charges by law that [1:00:36] will consolidate applicable municipal fees and charges into one document. [1:00:40] This by law is anticipated to be brought forward to Council for consideration in the upcoming [1:00:44] months. [1:00:45] Once we finalize for the 2027 fiscal year and the fees and charges being represented to [1:00:53] counsel at this time will be incorporated into that final fees and charges by law to ensure [1:00:57] the consistency and a centralized administration for the town's fee structure. [1:01:03] One of the biggest mechanisms that brought this forward today is we actually took on a new [1:01:07] column barium which is at a higher cost compared to the column barium in the past. [1:01:13] And from there I did a comprehensive review through different motions over the years and I tried [1:01:20] to find supporting documentation of cemetery rates, [1:01:25] but they weren't to be unfound. [1:01:28] So therefore I thought it would be a good practice [1:01:30] to bring them forward for you today, [1:01:32] because I felt to continue on. [1:01:35] We need to, we have a high interest of filling the current [1:01:38] columnbarium that we have in put up for sale. [1:01:40] So after tonight's decision, [1:01:42] I'd hope to open that up. [1:01:45] I'll give forward it back to you. [1:01:47] I appreciate you doing that. [1:01:49] I think that's good administration. [1:01:52] I'll open up the Council for any comments, questions, Deputy Mayor Martin. [1:01:59] I know you're saying that we'll be coming forward with another by-law for fees and services anyways. [1:02:06] Is it worth waiting or this is kind of proactive to, you know, we might be months away from another one or whatever. [1:02:14] In particular, the columbarium that if we were to proceed with the council motions that are in the past. [1:02:21] The town would be losing money on this new columbarium due to the cost that we've incurred of purchasing this new columbarium and [1:02:29] the costs that are [1:02:32] represented previously would not [1:02:35] Would just put us at a deficit and [1:02:38] the other fees in terms of the full service could be potentially moved to the fees and charges, but again [1:02:45] as reflected in this request for decision that that could be potential of [1:02:51] The services rendered would result in a little bit of a money loss, like no cost recovery in that motion. [1:02:59] Thank you. [1:03:01] Any other questions? [1:03:04] Councilman. [1:03:05] When was the last time? [1:03:11] So after reviewing some motions the last motion that was carried was in it be March 6 where Council [1:03:23] will approve the town of a million to increase the cemetery rates by 3% and that was January [1:03:28] 1st of 2019. [1:03:31] And so I tried to look back for supporting documentation of what those rates were, but the [1:03:37] agenda was not attached to that motion so I could not use those rates so I had to reconstruct [1:03:45] them. [1:03:48] Any other questions? [1:03:56] Yeah, I agree. [1:03:58] If no other questions, can I get somebody to make the motion? [1:04:02] Councillor Conlon? [1:04:04] I'm going to have to counsel for the time of a million. [1:04:06] Approved the proposed in-term cemetery fees and changes as presented. [1:04:10] Effective August 18, 2026, and directed administration to incorporate the fees into the town's fees and charges schedule. [1:04:19] All in favour? [1:04:21] Post, want to post, carry moving [1:04:30] on to 7.7, buy back for four cemetery plots per million [1:04:35] public cemetery. [1:04:38] Again, I'll turn over to the administration. [1:04:40] Thank you, Mayor Snow, and I will turn this one over to your hand as well. [1:04:46] So the next request for a decision I have for you this evening is that the recommendation [1:04:53] in that council for the town of Ramilion approve the buyback of block 3A plot number 32343536 in the [1:05:04] Ramilion public cemetery and authorized administration to assure refund of representing [1:05:10] amount of up to 50 percent of the current fee for four plots in accordance to the cemetery [1:05:16] bylaw 3-2010. So a little bit of a background on this administration has received a request from [1:05:23] authorized representative of the Cemetery plot holder for the town of Remeling to buy back [1:05:27] the four unused cemetery plots located in the blocks and plots that I indicated before. [1:05:34] The four plots were originally purchased on August 1st of 1973, along with an adjoining [1:05:39] fifth plot, which was utilized. At the time of purchase, each plot was valued at $20 for a total [1:05:46] purchase price of $100 for all five plots, the adjoining fifth plot is currently occupied [1:05:52] while the four plots subject to this request are unused administration is in advice that [1:05:58] the remaining plot holders no longer reside in the area and do not intend to use these four [1:06:03] unused plots. As a result the request had been submitted for the town to buy back the plots. [1:06:08] The town's current cemetery fee is $600 in five dollars per plot consisting of the following [1:06:14] indeed, which is the land acquisition of 135 perpetual care and yearly operation. [1:06:22] I'll send it back to you. [1:06:24] Well, enough to counsel. [1:06:30] I guess this is maybe a silly question, but why would we just buy it back for what we sold [1:06:35] it for? [1:06:36] The by-law indicates, in the three dash 2010, it indicates that the town council will buy [1:06:48] purchase back the plot up to 50% at the current, okay, so it's a current crisis. Yes, [1:06:55] Councillor Snowgrove? Yeah, I would go with their recommendation on 50% of the land, [1:07:00] land acquisition costs as administration laid out in the proposal. I think that's more than a [1:07:05] fair offer instead of the full perpetual care and yearly operations included, like we've [1:07:11] made data for 53 years now, so I think they got good value for their $100. And then it is to [1:07:18] That's the president of the Belanda Acquisition, to take the position of that, I think, is a fair number to go with. [1:07:24] Yeah, I agree with that, on the percent. Any other questions? [1:07:30] I'm sure in looking back to this, I'm sure we haven't done a whole lot of bi-backs over the years of this circumstance. [1:07:36] I don't know if you found any history on that of having much for bi-backs. [1:07:41] There was one in particular, and I did not have that prepared for tonight. [1:07:46] Well, what's that? [1:07:49] Councillor Comer? [1:07:50] Unless I missed it, are they not allowed to sell to somebody else? [1:07:54] Or does that have to go back to the town? It's not using it. [1:07:56] How does that work? [1:07:57] I can't directly speak on that particular question, but I couldn't get back to you on that one. [1:08:06] But for my understanding, the particular case, like in the biologists, stipulates that the town [1:08:12] by a back at up to 50%. [1:08:16] And that would be the $100 per law. [1:08:21] It would be, like, I guess, subjective to interior interpretation of what the $20 [1:08:30] consisted of back in the day as well. So it could be seen as the deed, but at that [1:08:37] time, they spent $20 for those plots. [1:08:44] Councilman MacDuff [1:09:38] So, as this by-law dates back to 2010, it will form part of our upcoming by-law review, so if Council does want to make any changes to buy back pricing or amounts there too, we can certainly have those discussions at a later date, but until such time we are subject to the by-law that's currently in place. [1:09:56] Thank you. Just to clarify, Councillor Snow Grove, when you were talking the land acquisition [1:10:04] fee, that was the 135 correct, not the other price. Yeah. Yeah, and I'm more in favor of [1:10:16] that direction than the other option of which is significantly higher. [1:10:27] Would you like to [1:10:27] the modest [1:10:30] the [1:10:36] iro's [1:10:38] the [1:10:39] th [1:10:39] 0-0034.00 [1:10:42] or to 380 [1:10:45] some other [1:10:46] st [1:10:46] the [1:10:48] steering [1:10:48] b [1:10:49] dollars representing 50% of the current land acquisition fee of $135 per plot in accordance [1:10:55] with bylaw 3-2010. Any questions? All in favour? Opposed? So, okay. All in favour? [1:11:08] Carried. [1:11:15] And moving on to 8, 8.1, July 2026, Accounts Payable Listings, General [1:11:22] to administration. Thank you, Mayor Snow, and I'll turn it over to Maryland. [1:11:30] Thank you. The July [1:11:31] Accounts Pable Listing is attached to the agenda, and I'm available for any questions if you [1:11:35] have any on any of them. I'll interrupt the council. Councillor McDuff. [1:11:46] First one is to the [1:11:48] the probability of Alberta. Was that a long payment for sending them the education tax? [1:12:05] Sorry, which line was the first line? [1:12:09] Zero zero two six three or zero two two. Yep. [1:12:13] I'm [1:12:20] just pulling it up. [1:12:25] That is the agreement for policing. [1:12:33] Any other questions, [1:12:38] Councillor Conlon? [1:12:39] Just what is the Sunset Memorial and Stone fee? [1:12:44] That was the third remainder payment for the new Columberian. [1:12:49] Thank you. [1:12:54] Just give Council a minute to have any other questions? [1:13:03] Seeing none, can I ask for a motion for accept as information? [1:13:07] Councillor Collin. [1:13:10] I'm over the council for the time of her million received a July 26 account payable listing as information. [1:13:17] All in favor, opposed in none, carried. [1:13:23] We will move on to 2026 second quarter financial report. [1:13:28] Turn over to administration. [1:13:30] Thank you, Mayor Snowman. I will again turn this one over to Maryland. [1:13:35] Thank you. [1:13:35] The financial reports for the second quarter of 2026 are being presented to Council on the Public [1:13:41] Information. [1:13:43] These reports are presented and posted to the town's website quarterly once they are [1:13:47] prepared. [1:13:48] Following the last quarterly report, administration has added the year to date values from [1:13:53] the previous year's budget as requested from Council. [1:13:57] I will note when you are looking at the year to date from 2025 comparisons that in the 2026 [1:14:04] budget. [1:14:04] we did adjust some budgets and some gls around so they may not give you a true reflection [1:14:11] and a true comparable, but it'll still provide the information as requested by Council. [1:14:17] Following the review of the Quarterly Financial Statements, I will note that as part [1:14:24] of the presentation of the reserves previously to Council, it was identified that one [1:14:34] and the financial finalization of the financials from 2025, and we consulted with the auditors. [1:14:42] It is being recommended that the negative balance be allocated across the remaining [1:14:48] reserves, using a percentage-based waiting. [1:14:53] The previous administration from what we could find, it looked like... [1:15:00] Our purchasing for land development and the intent was to replenish the reserve and the funds back into the reserve based on lotsales. [1:15:08] However, the lot sales appeared that they were recorded as revenue and not allocated directly into the reserve. [1:15:16] And so we are recommending an adjustment. It will reduce each reserve balance, but it will eliminate the negative balance from the towns reserve listing. [1:15:25] And it'll just give us more accurate reflection of the towns overall reserve position. [1:15:33] So moving into the quarterly financial statements, we did include based on feedback from council after the last quarter financial statements. [1:15:42] We included the percent collected and expanded for the general government reserve, general government budget. [1:15:49] You will note that the revenues are a little bit higher than we anticipated in the budget. [1:15:53] And it just means we've received a little bit higher taxation revenues than originally anticipated likely due to assessment changes. [1:16:03] The council in CAO budget are coming in at total expenditure of 39.3%. [1:16:12] The corporate services is slightly higher than what you generally would see at a 50% when you're halfway through the year. [1:16:18] We had some high quarter-one expenses that just come in quarter-one throughout the years, such [1:16:25] as insurance, or insurance premiums as a good example. [1:16:29] We pay those at the very start of the year, and they're not seen throughout the year. [1:16:32] So we have some higher expenses in the earlier in the year, and then it'll taper off as we [1:16:37] go through the year. [1:16:41] Moving on to community and protective services, community and protective services is a [1:16:45] at 40% of their budget expanded, and infrastructure and planning is at 38.42. [1:16:54] So that is the operating budget. Next we have the capital budget, and this provides a [1:17:00] listing of each of the projects that is on the capital budget for 2026. You'll see that some [1:17:06] are complete, a lot are in progress, some just haven't started yet, just due to waiting for staffing [1:17:13] to arrive so that we can start procuring projects, as well as the timeiness of some of those [1:17:18] projects. [1:17:20] Happy to answer any questions you may have on any capital projects at this point for any [1:17:25] project updates that we can help answer. [1:17:29] Welcome up to Council, [1:17:34] Councillor Snowgrew. [1:17:36] I just had some questions about the reserve balances, are we paying interest on that 2.9 [1:17:41] of a negative balance currently and do we know how many years that we were paying like [1:17:50] what years, fiscal years, but where does that mindset is going into revenues? [1:17:56] Not that I'm aware of that, we're not paying interest on that. [1:17:59] It's been quite a few years, [1:18:04] I want to say around 2012, I believe, is when this first [1:18:06] occurred when the reserve went into a negative position, and so the intent was over those [1:18:13] ten plus years to replenish it back, but that was not occurring. [1:18:18] So, it was over, but we're not making that monthly interest payment on that negative 2.9 [1:18:22] no note balance. [1:18:23] No, we are not. [1:18:29] Any other questions, Councilor? [1:18:31] I think that's [1:18:37] not sure I understand the way you do things, but it is our actual revenues [1:18:42] for bond current, your general government, [1:18:48] actually [1:18:48] in the company, 9 million, the expenses were 1.2 million [1:18:54] and earned that negative number. [1:19:00] Oh, that is just because the revenues exceeded the expenses. [1:19:06] In the future, we can remove the negatives to make it more clear. [1:19:10] Okay, [1:19:14] go to the council and see A.O., revenue is $500, and expenses are $140, $1,000, and it's a positive, $435. [1:19:29] That's just the way you do things. [1:19:33] Yes, the general government budget overall is the majority of it is revenues, so it's going to show a little different. [1:19:40] And then the other ones and the other ones are your higher expenses and your smaller revenues. [1:19:47] But we can do some changes to them. [1:19:49] I just want to understand what [1:19:54] I do revenues, that's a plus for expenses or negative fruits. [1:20:00] So I've got no more revenue, that's a plus for my set. [1:20:05] Now, on account of the GAO, revenue is only $0.5600, but the expense is $440,000, [1:20:13] and yet the net is a positive $435,000. [1:20:17] And I just [1:20:20] have, [1:20:26] yeah, go ahead, China, sorry. [1:20:29] So I think what may be happening here is we pull this information directly from our spreadsheets, [1:20:33] and we live in the Davidson credits world. [1:20:35] And so, in terms of finances, those are opposite. [1:20:39] in accounting. So what we could do is just amend it so that we're not showing those negatives [1:20:45] because when we do pull it directly from the Excel, I can see how you're reading that way. [1:20:50] So that could just be the way that we're pulling it and we're putting it into the spreadsheet. [1:21:00] Well, in our Excel and in our software, yeah, and then we're generating this report for Council's information, [1:21:05] but we can definitely look at the way it's being displayed. [1:21:10] I think just Councillor McDuff's point two, this does go out to the public so they can [1:21:17] view it. So ensuring that it's the most comprehensible version that we can submit would [1:21:24] make sense. A lot of people would probably see it similar where the negative typically means [1:21:32] negative. So yeah, that would be awesome. Councillor Conlon. Just the clarification as well [1:21:39] when it says, Council and CEO revenues, but governments are an expense. So am I missing [1:21:47] why it's a revenue? Or is that just when it's about these numbers again, how they are different [1:21:52] from the outside world? [1:21:56] Under Council and CEO, the economic development budget is under Council [1:22:00] there is some revenues for advertising and facility rent and so it's the overall revenues that would include mostly your economic development. [1:22:09] Okay, thank you for clearing that up. [1:22:13] And I have a question that's probably pretty simple or I'm just missing it but going back to the capital budget. [1:22:22] So if we look at the first line in community services tractor came in [1:22:30] The budget's expectation was just good, because that means we got it cheaper than we expected. What happens with any remaining funds, so if we budget 100,000, and it comes in at 70,000, what happens with that remaining 30,000 that we budget it? [1:22:48] So, at the end of the year, when the financial audit is completed, then that's when we would bring back a recommendation to Council of where you would want to put those into a resource. [1:22:58] So, to be putting to a reserve transfer at the end, it would go into your year-end surplus and then get transferred into reserves. [1:23:06] Thank you. Any other questions? [1:23:13] Just a comment, I think these quarterly reports and the way you guys lay them out is great. It's great for the public to see as well. [1:23:20] and where can the public access this report? [1:23:27] They are posted following council presentation on the town website [1:23:32] under council administration and then budget and financial reports. [1:23:36] Perfect, thank you. [1:23:38] Yeah, absolutely. [1:23:39] Councillor Snowgirl, go ahead. [1:23:42] Do we have an intention, I guess, to be more in the next budget process, [1:23:46] or council above using the subdivision lands reserve again and building that back up? [1:23:50] or is it a reserve that is going to go away? [1:23:53] Because if we're going to zero it out, [1:23:56] I almost feel like it'd be better for us to leave the negative there, [1:23:58] just as a reminder of what poor budget and process is [1:24:02] doesn't build it back up to at some point. [1:24:06] I guess we're going to, I don't know, it's a counting trick, [1:24:11] but it's just one of them. [1:24:12] Do we have an attention of using that reserve again? [1:24:17] So we could certainly leave it open. [1:24:19] That's up to council, and in terms of any reserve contributions [1:24:22] that would be by motion. [1:24:23] So we would bring we could amend our schedule with our target balances and then include a target balance for the subdivision lands reserve if we want to do that. [1:24:32] We obviously in looking through the historical records there because it had the accounting hasn't been done over the years. [1:24:39] We wanted to clean it up so to speak, but if council would prefer to leave it in a negative and you know work over the next [1:24:46] 10, 20, however many years it would take to replenish that reserve, we could certainly do that as well, or we could zero it out, and then we could work towards rebuilding that in the future if we need to use it for that purpose. [1:25:02] Yeah, the questions, Councillors, my stuff, sorry. [1:25:09] Councillors, no, no, because that brings up a good question. [1:25:15] I know of people that would like us to require some more land just to build a road. [1:25:24] Also, there would be available lots there too. [1:25:27] How would we proceed to do those things? [1:25:35] More right now, it's not in the immediate plans. [1:25:39] It's not in the immediate budgets. [1:25:42] So, realistically speaking, if we wanted to take on those projects, other things would have [1:25:46] to take a back seat. [1:25:47] That's certainly up to council, whatever council decides in terms of project and taxation [1:25:54] revenue a lot, and where we put those money, that's completely up to council. [1:25:58] It can change from year to year if that's the direction that we want to go in. [1:26:01] But as of right now, there is no money set aside for future land acquisition. [1:26:06] We're really in the state right now that we're looking to rebuild and replenish those reserves while addressing those capital projects that need to be addressed in the immediate future. [1:26:17] But again, it's Council's budget and it's Council's decision. [1:26:21] So if Council changes the way in which we want to do it, then administration will make sure that happens. [1:26:29] any other questions? [1:26:34] If not, somebody make the motion to accept this as information. [1:26:41] Deputy Mayor Merton, I move that to council for the town of R9 or see the 2020-26 second [1:26:48] second quarter financial report as information. On favor, pose, say, and none, carry. [1:26:57] Okay, 8.3 property tax penalty cancellation request roll number 0,000, 0,000, 2, 3, 2, 0, 0, 0. [1:27:11] Good. [1:27:12] If I may, is Council going to consider the second motion before them as it relates to the distribution of the negative balance, [1:27:20] or are we leaning into counselor, snowgirls comments in that we want to leave it as a negative [1:27:26] balance and replenish it over the next year is just so we have some direction in terms of [1:27:31] 2020-27 budget. [1:27:32] Sir, sir question, did you want to make a motion towards that or [1:27:41] well, I would lean towards my personal preference would [1:27:48] to leave at least until in any year adjustment or in our budget process and discuss it more [1:27:53] And just this kind of reminder that maybe we shouldn't be land developers and it's just it's sitting there and what it costs us to do things and if [1:28:03] It's a reminder all our taxpayers that what we're trying to respond with the money we've done a lot of work to build up a resource for things we want to do and [1:28:10] I know it's at account in the x we don't have that money, but we're gonna take away from those reserves that we're building up and so if we want to make prior to paid off [1:28:18] We should do in steps [1:28:20] I understand administrations want [1:28:22] To clear it out, it does make sense. I just think it might be a nice, not a nice reminder, but a reminder that [1:28:30] Not everything's been exactly as stated in this town for a few years and that we're dealing with it [1:28:36] We're not ignoring it. We see it, and we can correct it through a budget process or an year adjustment with an author's recommendation of best practices [1:28:44] And then it can be fully independent and verified. This is what best practices. This is what you should do [1:28:51] I'll just go back to maybe Maryland can speak to this, but was this not the auditor's recommendation to go in this direction or it? [1:29:01] It is. Discussion we had with our auditors and asked them what should we do about a negative reserve balance because that's not common practice to have that. [1:29:11] And so when we did suggest the even distribution, he said that would be a good way to handle it. [1:29:18] He's the only caution to gave us was it obviously has to be approved by Council and we can't make any adjustments unless Council directs us. [1:29:25] But we can definitely wait and wait until the budget process and the year and process and revisit this again, it's not going anywhere. [1:29:34] And I guess I would be to Councillor Snowgirl's point, it's not that it's going anywhere, it's not impacting us, it is nice to have a good reminder, but the flip side is, we can also have that reminder now and if the auditor is suggesting this is a good process, but I also would be fine with for a long end to the budget. [1:30:00] We're already in our next budget here and now we have this reminder. We still got to deal with this and what's it. And we can make the adjustment. I'm not a pulse to making the adjustment. I just think it's kind of something else. We deliberate where we put in our reserves. We have that active reminder that we've got the negative balance that we should deal with and our rate payers should recognize that we're dealing with it in a certain way. [1:30:25] Any other? [1:30:27] Deputy Mayor Martin? [1:30:29] Yeah. [1:30:30] I think I agree with Councillor Snell Road [1:30:32] to leave table this to our September meeting [1:30:35] and just have more discussions through the budget process. [1:30:39] That way it makes sense. [1:30:41] Chairman, I saw you acting up. [1:30:43] No, I'm just again to Councillor Snell Road's point [1:30:47] is that if we were to make the adjustment per se [1:30:49] and again, that's Councillor's decision. [1:30:52] Those reserves that we would be adjusting to account for that difference would be first on the priority to replenish as part of the annual budget process. [1:31:02] So if we would be reducing those reserves for different percentages, we would be looking to replenish those reserves on a priority basis to make sure that they're topped up before we start contributing necessarily to other reserves. [1:31:13] pending Council direction. So if Council, obviously, wanted to deviate from that recommendation [1:31:17] they could, but our recommendation would be just our replenishing those reserves that we [1:31:21] would be adjusting for to remove this negative balance off the books. Just for context. [1:31:29] Can you answer some of our questions? [1:31:31] Yeah, and I think as we do that, actually, when we're delivering our budget, we could [1:31:36] administer and bring forward what the percentage rollback, the actual number, if we apply this [1:31:41] $1.9 million adjustment on a percentage of basement. [1:31:44] What that rollback gets us to and then we're building our budget. [1:31:48] How we want to achieve going forward, it's just options just to be a little more transparent [1:31:53] open with what our plan is. [1:31:58] And the other questions or comments, Councillor McDuff? [1:32:06] going to scheduling under utilities, the capital, we have a good balance of $2.4 million [1:32:19] of which I do believe in the name of us of $2 million is going to be paid shortly when [1:32:28] to a frontline soldier gets finished, [1:32:34] and if you applied adjustment to it, would that not be in a deficit at that time? [1:32:47] Sir, I'm just calling up our research. [1:32:49] So the utility reserve, it has included in the swarm water, the water, the wastewater, and then the recycling program. [1:32:57] and the 2.25 million you're talking about for the sanitary trunk line is a [1:33:03] debenture that we took out so it's not showing in this. It's completely [1:33:07] separate. [1:33:13] Any other questions or comments? [1:33:19] Would somebody like to? I guess we [1:33:23] have to rescind the previous motion because we already accepted it as [1:33:27] information. [1:33:31] Go ahead. There are two separate motions. So if Council does not want [1:33:34] endeavor to leave their reserve balances and make those adjustments, then we just wouldn't [1:33:39] make that motion and we would leave it as is, so that negative would appear on the reserve [1:33:44] balances going forward until such time that we're directed otherwise. [1:33:47] Thank you. [1:33:50] Councillor Snell Grove, would you like to make that motion? [1:33:55] Well, just yes, just not even making motion, right? [1:34:01] We just did that. [1:34:04] So just to clarify, I was asked for a second motion by administrations, so. [1:34:11] I was just asking a council wanted to consider that motion or not. [1:34:16] Because of the comments made by a councillor, [1:34:18] now, if we wanted to consider that motion or if not, [1:34:21] and if we were choosing not to, then no motions required. [1:34:24] I'm just unclear on the direction from council. [1:34:29] So at this time, you're not wanting to make, [1:34:31] okay, then let's move on. [1:34:35] We already did. [1:34:37] That's where I'm confused because that's for a second motion. [1:34:40] but we're good. We got it. We got us. Okay, we will move on to 8.3 property tax penalty [1:34:48] cancellation request. Rule number 0000232000. I'll turn it over to administration. [1:34:57] And I will turn it over to Maryland. Thank you. Earlier this year, the town of [1:35:03] Rameleon sent out approximately 2,000 property tax notices with a deadline for payment of July 15. [1:35:10] 140 properties remained unpaid after the deadline for payments and they received penalties applied to them. [1:35:18] Administration has received five requests to cancel the property tax penalties on six separate properties. [1:35:25] I will go through each item separately so that Council can discuss and make a decision on each request separately. [1:35:31] However, I'm not going to repeat the information in each one because they're all very common and very similar. [1:35:37] Um, tax notices were sent to property owners on May 14th with the deadline of July 15th. [1:35:44] The town advertised the mailing of tax notices and the property tax deadline through six separate posts on the town's Facebook page. [1:35:52] Two advertisements in the local newspaper. [1:35:54] We had a notice posted on the town's website when the notices were mailed. [1:35:59] And we had content in both the June and July talk of the town newsletters. [1:36:02] So, over the eight week period, that is the advertising that we did provide to residents for the text deadline. [1:36:10] This property of 0000232 0000. The taxes were not paid by the deadline and it had the penalty applied to the account. [1:36:21] Administration has since received a penalty request for the owner to counsel the $308.75 [1:36:28] since property tax payment that was applied. [1:36:32] I will note that property tax penalties are intended to encourage timely payment of taxes [1:36:37] and ensure fairness and consistency with all property owners as well as the administration [1:36:42] of the taxation process. [1:36:44] The towns by law number 2-97 for the town of Remelian states that a penalty of 12% shall [1:36:51] be applied upon taxes that remain unpaid after the 15th day of July or 30 days from the [1:36:58] date of mailing of the notice, whichever is longer. [1:37:01] So the tax payment deadline of July 15th has not considerably changed since 1997. [1:37:08] Under the MGA, the Municipal Government Act, Council has the option to cancel, reduce refund or [1:37:15] defer property taxes. [1:37:17] This is not within the purview of administration. [1:37:21] The town of Vermillion also has a late tax penalty or payment cancellation policy that states that [1:37:30] And council make consider requests if there is a death within 30 days of the deadline. The notice was sent to an incorrect address or the property owner can provide documentation showing that the payment was made at a financial institution on or before the payment deadline. [1:37:47] We do recognize the circumstances outlined by this property owner as well as all of the requests before us tonight, but we are not recommending as administration the cancellation of any property tax. [1:37:59] penalties. [1:38:01] A pervine request for property tax cancellation when the by law was correctly applied may [1:38:05] create an inequity amongst taxpayers who have met their payment deadlines, and also those [1:38:11] who have previously incurred penalties under the same circumstances yet paid them in past [1:38:15] years. [1:38:16] A pervine the request may also create expectations for similar relief in future cases where penalties [1:38:22] work correctly applied in accordance with the by law. [1:38:26] I now turn it back to you for any questions you may have on this first request. [1:38:31] Councillor McDuff? [1:38:35] In the advertising, or on the tax statement, does it say 12% penalty will be applied? [1:38:45] It does state it on the tax notices, and most of our communications did I can't guarantee [1:38:51] every single one did, but the majority does. [1:38:56] You read all them? [1:38:57] Okay, thank you. [1:38:58] Any other questions? [1:39:02] Councillor Stilver? [1:39:04] How does our late payment policy compare to similar municipalities to the 12% penalty on the [1:39:12] day after is that a common practice among municipalities of our size or neighboring jurisdictions? [1:39:19] I haven't done a comparison, but I can gather that information and bring it back to council. [1:39:24] I do know from a couple that I'm familiar with, it's not too far off from where they are as well. [1:39:32] But we can gather more detail of comparable municipalities and regional municipalities as well. [1:39:40] Deputy Mayor Martin. [1:39:43] So with online payments, I know it's depending on your financial institute. [1:39:47] It's three to five business days and depending on when July 15th lands. [1:39:52] If it's a Friday, you're technically seven days past. [1:39:55] But do we have any tolerance for that financial institute [1:39:59] that if you pay on the night of the 14th or the 15th [1:40:04] that you have three to five businesses to see it hit the bank? [1:40:08] We go by the date that the payment was made. [1:40:10] And so it should show on our end. [1:40:13] But if there's any discrepancies, [1:40:15] we leave it up to the resident of the property owner [1:40:17] to show us that it was paid by that date. [1:40:21] When it comes to receiving payments by mail, [1:40:23] go by the dates down but from the post office and the actual date that it was [1:40:28] mailed because we will get those a few days later. Thank you. Councilor Snowgrave. [1:40:38] I guess this is a boy to ask in this question five times in a row or a couple of them. [1:40:44] All these have been subsequently caught up in paid. I'm guessing because that's [1:40:50] of any of them ever done this before? [1:40:57] No. [1:40:58] They haven't done this before. [1:41:01] And in talking with a couple of them that asked, [1:41:03] they asked, should I pay this right away? [1:41:05] And I said, well, the next penalty goes on after council [1:41:08] would make their decision. [1:41:10] So instead of making the payment of the penalty, [1:41:12] and then if council decides that you want to waive it, [1:41:16] then we'd have to issue a refund. [1:41:17] And it's just more mystery libertadism. [1:41:19] So most have not paid their penalty at this point. [1:41:21] they're waiting to hear from council's decision. [1:41:25] Okay, and the next the next date was September 15th. [1:41:28] They were with the next penalty date. [1:41:29] January would be the next penalty. [1:41:32] Okay. I'm just kind of wrestling with this because I actually, I agree. [1:41:35] Administration applies by-law perfectly. [1:41:37] I do have some thoughts that are by-law may be overly punitive on the day-up, [1:41:42] but that's a different debate to be have. [1:41:45] And so I've wrestled with this, I can see the desire to be fair, because at the end of the day we are public servants, we're supposed to serve these people are our bosses, but we have to treat it fair. [1:42:00] So administration has done their job applied. [1:42:03] Fairity, I think there is probably a better way we can design our by-law to impose a smaller fine and encourage payment quicker, but that might be a discussion left for another time. [1:42:15] Councillor McDuff. [1:42:20] It's on. It was on. I wrestled with this also, and I said to myself, [1:42:30] what's a good way to get people to pay on time? The large penalties are rebate. So do you add [1:42:38] 15% to the tax and give them a 10% break if they pay on time? [1:42:45] Or do you give them a 12% 10% penalty if they [1:42:48] don't pay on that. I'm still resting. I'm not sure how it goes. But the town of [1:42:55] Ramellian is not a bank. [1:43:00] Councilman. So I'm going to agree with you, Bruce, we're [1:43:04] not a bank, but I think what's fair, you have to be fair to everybody. This is my [1:43:09] point of view. And if you're struggling to make your taxes, pay the monthly, set up a [1:43:21] I suggested it to that particular person, so I mean, if we've been the rules, when you stop [1:43:30] been. [1:43:31] Thank you. [1:43:35] Sorry, I just did one to flag. [1:43:40] The results of payment of taxes is quite good at the town, like that of 2000, roughly [1:43:46] tax notice the sent out, only 140 weren't paid on time. [1:43:50] And out of those 140, only six have requested a cancellation of a penalty. [1:43:57] Thank you. [1:43:58] I guess my thought it like wouldn't, there's cut and dry black and white and then there's [1:44:04] the whole gray area, right? [1:44:07] People don't pay their taxes on time and they say, I forgot or I didn't see the sign. [1:44:15] I can't say that to my utilities bill. [1:44:18] I can't say that to my internet bill or my cable bill. [1:44:22] We're expected to fare our bills on time, but I think there has to be some understanding [1:44:28] and grace when there's just legitimate errors and mistakes that happen. [1:44:35] I think there is times where we should, as Council say, you know what that just made sense, [1:44:43] something happened, be it, they were away, or I know in one situation it got dropped in the [1:44:51] by accident and it wasn't, there's no postage stamp on it and I think [1:45:00] I think that's why people have the option to bring it to us to appeal because we should be able to say, yes, there is a black and white area. If you're just negligent in paying your bills or, or you have an excuse that doesn't seem legitimate, we're sorry, but you got to pay your bills and there is a cost. If I don't pay my bills, there's an interest as well, but there should be times where we stop and say, does this make sense? [1:45:28] And I think that's why we have these six here. [1:45:31] We have to look at them and say could they have done it? [1:45:37] Or was this an actual like slip up that somebody made? [1:45:43] Again, referencing the one where they meant to deliver it [1:45:47] and put it in the mailbox and so obviously it has no stamp on it. [1:45:50] It comes back two weeks later. [1:45:54] And I appreciate the argument and I know I've had this discussion [1:45:58] with people before, well, if you pay a day before the due date, that's what happens, but [1:46:06] on a technicality, if you pay a day before the due date, you're still early. The due dates [1:46:11] of due dates. So I struggle with that a bit. I think to count as our snow grows point, [1:46:25] down [1:46:25] why we're using the penalties, how we're using them and make sure that we're not overly assertive in it. [1:46:34] The penalties are meant to encourage people to pay on time. [1:46:38] But I think if we look at the by-law down the road, we also need to acknowledge that. [1:46:42] Sometimes it's not that they intentionally or negligently didn't pay on time. [1:46:49] Something occurred that interrupted that. [1:46:55] Can't answer snowgrew? [1:46:57] Yeah, that's kind of, I agree with the points you're trying to make there and like some of the penalties are quite punitive, [1:47:03] like it would be some of the biggest fines or towns, like you don't anything, and it's a big number, and I think we could probably have better or falsie, [1:47:14] but my other question to administration is there been, this is my first year on council going through, this has there any been past history of councils making exceptions, [1:47:22] or is it pretty cut and dry? [1:47:29] It's... it's just... it's just the... it's very... I've just confirmed that [1:47:34] historically Council sometimes has waived some penalties. I wouldn't have the exact stats on that. [1:47:42] Council are calling me not to say anything up next. Yeah, I was just going to say I actually don't [1:47:46] remember reading any penalties unless my memory fails me. But I knew remember that in the past [1:47:53] something was different on the tax system. Of course, administration at the time... yeah [1:47:58] It is different back then, so now I understand there might be more of a discussion around it. [1:48:05] But unless the other Councillors are around before, remember different, I don't remember forgiving any, [1:48:12] but. [1:48:12] Deputy Mayor Martin. [1:48:14] Yeah, I'm trying to remember back, I know we've had some discussions over the, like, [1:48:18] press term of a couple that have brought requests back, but they don't know in the waving. [1:48:23] The fees are the penalty. [1:48:25] like I know myself having a penalty in the past, when it was paid in term right, so. [1:48:33] Shannon. [1:48:36] So one that I can remember as I, I believe I was the one who brought it forward is we did wave a penalty in 2025 and that was because [1:48:44] payment was remitted for multiple properties on one rule number, but it was because it was two one rule number and not the specific rule number. [1:48:53] One of the role numbers for that property owner had a credit and then the other role number [1:48:57] had a penalty and the amount was outstanding. [1:49:00] So administratively in terms of our customer service, we definitely had an opportunity there [1:49:04] to transfer that amount to the correct role number and notify the property owner. [1:49:08] Again, this happened before my time. [1:49:10] I just like that disclaimer. [1:49:12] We did not elect to do that. [1:49:14] And so we did bring forward that request and we did ask that council forgive that penalty. [1:49:18] But when we do notice things like that, if a owner has, you know, six different role numbers and they're applying it all to one, we do ask that they specify [1:49:27] Every single role number and what amount should be applied there and then issues say they're $20,000 check just to make sure that we are applying it to the correct role number because there are some instances where property owners want to make over payments. [1:49:39] So we certainly don't want to be adjusting amounts for those over payments if we're not directed to and from an [1:49:44] auditing perspective, we're not at liberty to. So unless we have clear instructions to apply a payment to a specific tax roll or move it to a specific tax roll, we can't make those adjusting entries. [1:49:54] So that is the situation in which we adjusted the penalty and that was in 2025, but again, the funds had been received by the town. They were just sitting in a different account. [1:50:04] Thank you. [1:50:05] Councillor Connell. [1:50:07] When I was reading this, I just wanted to clarify with the administration, is this exactly [1:50:11] how it played out as it is written of you conferred with the front, it just says the girl [1:50:16] the town office, but has this been confirmed like this is the timeline and it was intended [1:50:20] that everything was paid up and then it was a mistake, is that how this is interpreting [1:50:25] it? [1:50:26] So, in talking with the staff that handled this particular tax payment, it was a busy time at the front in the day and this person has multiple properties and so it was a lot of tax notices and a larger payment and they said you can just mail me my receipt afterwards and so they had left. [1:50:46] We processed the payment. I'd notice that one property was missing on the payment. It was a newer property. [1:50:53] They had just acquired this year. [1:50:55] And so when the member of administration prepared the receipt, they wrote a handwritten note on it, [1:51:01] noting that this one property was misbeen paid and they mailed it back to the resident. [1:51:07] And you can see in here they talked about getting the receipt and they filed it away. [1:51:11] And so I'm not sure if they really did notice or read the note that was written for them. [1:51:17] We have had internal discussions from this particular instance of administratively everything was done properly. [1:51:27] We provided good customer service by, you know, not making them wait for a super long time to issue their tax payment and by making the note on the receipt that there was one missing. [1:51:38] could we have maybe made a phone call, we could have tried that, we've talked about it internally, [1:51:44] and we'll try to heighten customer services much as we can, but by no means do we believe [1:51:51] that anything was done incorrectly by administration at this point. [1:51:56] When you own multiple properties, I myself own multiple properties and multiple municipalities, [1:52:01] and I know how many properties I own, and how many I'm going to be paying for, and [1:52:08] And I think this is one of those cases like there is an expectation for people to follow up with it if if I have multiple properties and I'm bringing in multiple [1:52:21] tax bills [1:52:23] You go through them and you check them right so there is you know, I don't think [1:52:30] Taking away any expectations from the public to pay them, and to follow through with their responsibilities. [1:52:37] So, I agree. I think the administration did everything they were expected to do. [1:52:42] Councillor McDuff. [1:52:46] In this letter, they stated that they did not receive tax bill at their address, but it was into a box number. [1:52:56] The judge because they put it down to lots of number when they did the transaction, which you say was fairly recent. [1:53:04] Yes, this was a more recent property that they took over, and our tax rules are aligned with land titles and the address is what's at land titles. [1:53:14] And so when they purchased the property, that's the address that must have been provided to land titles. [1:53:20] And so that's what we have mirrored. [1:53:22] They did note that their utility bill goes to a different property, but they can change their utility address. [1:53:28] But tax roll-wise, we like to make sure that it's the same and consistent with land titles. [1:53:50] If a resident wants to change their address for their tax roll, then they would have to fill out a form, [1:53:55] And then we also recommend that they also update [1:53:57] my entitles as well for consistency purposes. [1:54:00] No, what I'm saying is a buy command. [1:54:03] And say, what are my taxes? [1:54:06] Do I have to go up my bill? [1:54:08] Can you look at them under my name? [1:54:12] What do they have to go up by each tax rule 19? [1:54:16] We can look up by name or by property. [1:54:19] But it would be unique in the situation of what name [1:54:23] is under the properties. [1:54:23] if there's multiple owners, then it may be a little bit more difficult or financial system [1:54:29] sometimes a little bit cumbersome when it comes to inquiries, but we would do our best to confirm [1:54:35] okay so we have four properties showing is that what you have and if they say no I have five [1:54:40] then we do our best to try find the last one. [1:54:46] Any other questions on this Councillor Collin? [1:54:51] My only recommendation, maybe, to we are allowed to reduce my suggestion would be to half [1:54:57] this bill, just because it is the owners who are sensibly done or sent to me properties [1:55:02] they do have, but I do see that the had full intention of paying everything on time. [1:55:08] It was a mistake, so my recommendation would be to half this bill. [1:55:12] thank you. Any feedback or thoughts on [1:55:23] any other recommendations? [1:55:27] I'll ask somebody to [1:55:28] make a motion regarding this request for decision. [1:55:36] Councillor Con. Okay, go ahead [1:55:38] Councillor McDuff. Is this letter [1:55:44] the representation of what happened? [1:55:53] Yes, when they did come [1:55:54] in the front counter position was busy and so the resident did say you can just mail me my [1:56:02] receipt as indicated in this letter and so we processed the payment after the property owner [1:56:08] had left town office and then we did as indicated in the letter we did send them a receipt [1:56:17] which I believe I just have to find it here exactly they say that they had filed it away yet they [1:56:22] received a few days later. The receipt was received before the penalty deadline and the [1:56:28] property tax payment deadline. So had they noticed the note on the receipt, then they had [1:56:34] the opportunity to pay before the penalty was applied. [1:56:42] Any other questions? [1:56:46] So I'd like to [1:56:47] So for a motion moving forward on this decision, [1:56:55] Councillor Conlon. [1:56:59] I move that the council approved the property on, sorry. [1:57:10] So I'd like to make a motion to half this property tax penalty. [1:57:17] roll number five zeros two three two zero zero zero oh not up for discussion [1:57:26] we're [1:57:31] discussion okay I think I'm thinking of all these in the context [1:57:36] like the next snowberg four decisions we got to make here enough and so I'm [1:57:42] weighing the precedent of making this decision and how it will affect the ones [1:57:48] coming after. So I'm still waiting how I feel about it. I want to support [1:57:54] administration because I do believe they applied the by-law perfectly. [1:57:59] And I want [1:57:59] to do also have some reason for our ratepayers and towns. So it's making that [1:58:04] balancing as we go when I die. And it just did here when my other colleagues [1:58:09] think of it. [1:58:15] Kills are murdered. Well I'm going to go back to my previous [1:58:18] comment I think you know it's you gotta be fair for all the rate payers and [1:58:24] they have two months you know the noses were sent out two months prior and I [1:58:32] agree with Councillor Snell Grove administration did their job so I would [1:58:38] I would I would vote up hold it [1:58:43] Councillor Collins I end up there don't I [1:58:46] just going to reiterate kind of my explanation and understanding [1:58:49] yes, this kind of, it's a precedent for each one, but if I've learned [1:58:52] in any council, every request to receive is to be a differently based [1:58:57] on different circumstances. [1:58:59] So it can set a precedent, but I can also see their side of each [1:59:02] situation is different, and everybody has a different experience. [1:59:05] As we'll see in the next ones, each one does have a different explanation. [1:59:09] My only take is that it was intended to be fully paid, and when I left [1:59:14] they thought they had fully paid their taxes before the deadline, which I believe was too [1:59:19] extra prior to this happening. It is their mistake for not receiving the mail, so I can [1:59:23] definitely see the validity in understanding how many properties you have and what the other [1:59:27] counselor said about upholding the full property tax penalties. So, my thoughts. [1:59:38] Deputy Mayor Martin. Yeah, it's let me say you do one, you know, four more to go. [1:59:46] I'm in a [1:59:47] with administration for following the rules of our tax system for sure, right, so they did have this opportunity to pay it prior to. [2:00:00] Do it sometimes to use your receivet, you know, it's a receipt, you throw it in the file, if it's right [2:00:05] file, but if you don't open it and then you find that it's a mistake or whatever, but I'm [2:00:11] kind of with Council Martin to uphold the public taxi as it's presented here today. [2:00:18] Council. Councilor McDonald, do you want to weigh in on your opinion? [2:00:25] If I happen to miss a bill, I pay the interest that they require when they send their next statement [2:00:32] So it doesn't happen often because I don't like being interest and I did have to pay [2:00:41] a lead penalty on a tax bill a long time ago and I switched it to monthly because [2:00:47] it doesn't cost anymore and it's nobody's fault for it not being paid at the correct [2:00:53] time but my own. [2:00:58] Thank you. [2:00:59] And I kind of agree with this one as well. [2:01:03] I think there's an expectation to check to make sure [2:01:08] your payments and your invoices and your bills all line up. [2:01:14] And, you know, it's unfortunate that it happened to them, [2:01:18] but at the end of the day, if you have multiple properties, [2:01:21] there is an expectation to go and check and make sure [2:01:25] that everything went through is a process to check your bank account. [2:01:28] but so but we do have a motion on the floor so so if you wouldn't mind repeating your motion if [2:01:38] we'll have to vote on that one then we can move forward with a different motion if it's the [2:01:43] or accept it, we can move on. [2:01:47] So I move that the council [2:01:51] discuss proper interquest and have the property tax, [2:01:57] penalty roll number 0, 0, 0, 0, 2, 3, 2, and these 0, 0, 0, 0, 0. [2:02:04] Thank you. All in favor of that motion? [2:02:08] One, opposed, [2:02:13] five. [2:02:15] Motion defeated. [2:02:16] So, I guess we'll return to this, would somebody like to make a motion, it sounds like Council was favorable for following the recommendations of administration, would somebody be willing to make that motion? [2:02:33] Councillor Martin? [2:02:35] I move that the Council for the time of really not pulled the property tax penalty, levied against rule. [2:02:40] Number zero zero zero zero zero two three two zero zero zero zero zero. [2:02:46] on favor carried. [2:02:53] Thank you. I know this is tough discussions, and we want to be as fair as we can, and [2:02:58] as gracious as we can, but I think the best thing we can do is have good discussions about it. [2:03:08] Okay, moving on 8.4, property tax penalty cancellation request, roll number 0000669000. [2:03:20] I will turn it over to administration. [2:03:24] Thank you, Erin. [2:03:25] I'm just going to start turning it over to Maryland, sir. [2:03:28] I'm going to view them coming up here. [2:03:31] So for roll number 006066900, the property taxes were not paid by July 15th, [2:03:40] and a penalty was applied to the account. [2:03:42] Administration received a request from the owner of this residential property [2:03:46] to cancel the $182 and 28 cents penalty that was applied to the account. This is a situation [2:03:54] for this one where it is a residential property and in preparation for their move is indicated [2:04:01] in our letter they had sent in a request to cancel their utilities and the effective date of the [2:04:07] sale was July 23rd. They had received an notice from us but the penalty was applied and the [2:04:16] access were not paid and they I believe understood that PSM law was looking after that for them [2:04:23] as part of the sale. I will note that the sale was July 23rd which is approximately [2:04:30] week after the deadline. So property taxes still have to be paid even if you're selling [2:04:35] your property after the property tax deadline. However in these situations when there is a sale [2:04:40] transaction date very close to a deadline, generally the legal firms will look after any [2:04:46] adjustments has required, but that did not occur in this situation. [2:04:50] So I turn it back to you for any questions. [2:04:52] Thank you. [2:04:53] I'll open up the council for any discussions. [2:04:59] Deputy Mayor Martin. [2:05:02] Yeah, I think to administration for bringing this forward, yeah, this is a little different [2:05:07] than the last being is you're selling your property in a long term resident or whatever, but [2:05:12] Yeah, it might have been oversight on the other side, but like you say taxes have to be paid accordingly, so [2:05:22] Thank you [2:05:23] I think we're else Councilor McDuff [2:05:27] I'm questioning the [2:05:31] You and you require to cancelation of pre-authorized payments [2:05:36] I'd like to start [2:05:38] Did you request them? [2:05:48] Yes, she had sent an email stating that quote. [2:06:00] So she had requested cancellation as of July 23rd. [2:06:04] Mm-hmm. [2:06:06] Kills are still growing. [2:06:09] Um, I'm assuming this was a countless paid monthly at $435 a month. [2:06:16] Is that, is that how that, or $253? [2:06:21] And so, is the penalty based on the remaining balance or the total tax bill? [2:06:25] The total percent. The remaining balance. [2:06:35] It's more than 12 percent. [2:06:43] It's just playing up their count. [2:06:52] The monthly payment was 253 dollars and 17 cents for their monthly payment plan. [2:07:03] And the monthly payment plan doesn't. It runs with the calendar year. It doesn't run with the tax year. [2:07:09] And so, if you're on the payment plan, your taxes aren't technically paid and full, come [2:07:16] the deadline. [2:07:18] You have until December 31st to continue paying them, which is an item that we'll probably [2:07:25] be bringing back for discussion in the future. [2:07:37] Yes. [2:07:41] Any other questions? [2:07:46] Somebody like to make a motion on this recommendation. [2:07:58] No, thank you sir. [2:08:01] I move the council for the out of a million uphold the property tax granted. [2:08:04] Let me guess, roll number 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 6, 6, 9, 0, 0, 0. [2:08:12] Thank you, and I appreciate this as a tough, tough meeting to have, nobody wants to be the one. [2:08:19] We have motion on the floor, all in favor, opposed, none carried. [2:08:30] We're getting there. [2:08:32] 8.5, property tax penalty, cancellation, roll number 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 9, 9, [2:08:39] 3-0-0-0. I'll turn over to administration. [2:08:45] Thank you. The next one is for a non-residential property. [2:08:50] And so, this rule number was not paid by the deadline. [2:08:54] And so, as such, this non-residential property received a penalty in the amount of $6,409. [2:09:01] And they are requesting cancellation of their penalty. [2:09:05] I will note just being that this one's non-residential, the town's property tax cancellation policy [2:09:14] does state that council will not typically support a penalty cancellation for non-residential property. [2:09:22] This is one situation where this business received their tax notice shortly after they had issued a check [2:09:30] and they took the checkaway and they had intentions of submitting it by the deadline and they got busy [2:09:38] and they had asked someone to take it to the mail or send it in the mail and there was no stamp on it. [2:09:45] So by the time the post office brought it back to advise and there was no stamp, [2:09:49] the tax penalty had been applied because it was after the deadline. [2:09:53] I now turn it back to you for any discussion or questions. [2:09:55] all up to council for any questions. [2:10:02] So I kind of read this as they weren't taken [2:10:04] into it the carrier but they typically in the past have dropped it off here [2:10:08] directly and my misreading that and it looks like a male carrier picked it up by [2:10:15] accident because that changes the dynamics for me a little bit. [2:10:22] So we've gone back and [2:10:23] forth with this non-residential property owner a few times on this request to make sure [2:10:28] that the intent of what they want to explain to Council in the public is what is putting [2:10:33] being put on the website and in the agenda. [2:10:38] In previous discussions, it was mentioned that they gave it to their one-staff member [2:10:43] and said, take this down to the post office and then this one's talking about that they [2:10:49] put it on the counter to get dropped off, but mistake was given to the mail carrier. [2:10:54] So, I'm not exactly too sure what happened inside that business on that day, but there could have been an intent to drop it off here or an intent to give it to the mail carrier, what happened was it was given to the mail carrier. [2:11:07] Yeah, because the way I read it was there is no stamp on it because it was being dropped off here and that does change the dynamics a little bit in my mind if the mail carrier picked it up and there's no stamp on it. [2:11:21] obviously it's not going to be mailed out. And two weeks later you will be getting a back. [2:11:26] So anyways, that's just my challenge with that is I feel if it unintentionally was picked [2:11:33] up by the male carrier. [2:11:37] That's kind of puts things out of their hands a little bit. And [2:11:44] like, technically, puts it out of their hands, but, uh, and not, like, unforeseen challenges [2:11:53] and incidents, that's where I struggle with, making payments or charging penalties. [2:12:01] If there's an unforeseen incident that you can't intervene on, [2:12:08] so that's where I struggle [2:12:10] with this one. [2:12:11] Yeah, but all over the Council, Councilor Snow Group. [2:12:14] Yeah, this is one where I kind of see the need to update our policy a little bit, because [2:12:20] I think the penalty is so punitive for the action, and my question would be to administration [2:12:25] be, what is the incentive for this rate pair to pay any of that proper tax prior to the next penalty date? [2:12:36] The situations where they've already been issued a penalty, if Councilor doesn't waive the penalty and [2:12:41] holds it. We likely will see payment closer to the January next penalty deadline. [2:12:46] But it's not teach. That'd be a significant outstanding balance judging by the percentage [2:12:50] of the penalty. That would be money that would be not coming towards the down because there [2:12:55] would be no incentive for them to pay it as quickly as possible. Their incentive would be to [2:13:00] keep it as long as possible again. So that's where it's the policy should be how do we bring [2:13:08] people into Communities is quickly as possible. And that's where the failure is. And it's [2:13:13] not administration's fault. They have applied through roles exactly right. There's no way [2:13:17] to confirm a story as staff was not put on or whatever. That's not up to us to be the [2:13:22] arbitrary of that case. But this is a significant penalty for any resident or non-resideness. It's [2:13:32] that stings to any operation in town. And so it's, I, I struggle with them all. And I, then I remind [2:13:40] ourselves where supposed to be the public servants here were not the overlords of the town. We [2:13:44] have to design a better policy. But unfortunately, we're not there yet. And we have to deal with the [2:13:49] rules we currently have. [2:13:53] Well said. Deputy Mayor Martin. When was payment made on that one? I know [2:14:00] They say it was missed by two days, almost like it was paid on the 17th or something. [2:14:11] We're just pulling it up once. [2:14:17] July 17th, so they received it back and then they brought it over. [2:14:24] I don't know if I need to sort of do these, like we kind of talked about it. [2:14:28] Yeah, so yeah, it's a nice part of both being in town, things are quite quicker. [2:14:33] Yeah, [2:14:36] any other comments, [2:14:42] somebody we willing to make a motion regarding this recommendation? [2:14:53] Councilor Conor. [2:14:54] Can I make a motion again to... [2:15:02] Just with its significance, I make a motion that council approve the property owner's request with a modification for half of the property tax penalty on roll, number zero zero zero, one nine nine three zero zero zero. [2:15:22] Thank you, and we'll, since it's changed, we'll open up for discussion, if there's any discussion, can some work tough? [2:15:54] Got it. [2:15:58] Yeah, this is a significant penalty, but 1802 dollars might have been a significant penalty for the other person also. [2:16:06] I don't know. [2:16:12] This one is more difficult because they had full intentions of being there on time. [2:16:20] somebody somewhere did not, [2:16:25] to be hand delivered, in the right place, or somebody got to [2:16:30] put a stamp on it. [2:16:35] They did have the intention to bid, but the other individual who paid $30,000 was also [2:16:41] of the intention of getting it paid. [2:16:44] Didn't have the coffee at the time. [2:16:46] These [2:16:49] are very, very difficult situations for [2:16:56] no one to say I'm really struggling. [2:17:04] I think we're all feeling that sentiment. Nobody wants to. [2:17:08] I think somebody already said it like the gatekeeper and the decision maker, [2:17:12] and it's because we don't want to put hardships on anyone, but we also want to be absolutely fair [2:17:17] and respect that administration has absolutely done the correct job. [2:17:21] and so it's a tough decision to make, so thank you for that honesty. [2:17:27] Any other comments regarding the motion on the floor or anything, I, as well as struggle [2:17:39] with it, Councilor McDuff, and I've been, as we've mulled over this, because we've had [2:17:47] for a while trying to look at every situation and try to figure out what's obviously and we've [2:17:54] said it several times. Administration has done exactly what they're supposed to do and we [2:17:58] followed our process. But in bringing it to us, how do we make decisions on which ones we should [2:18:06] forgive, which ones we shouldn't, which ones we should amend. And the end of the day, there's going [2:18:12] be some people that aren't happy with our decisions and some that are, but I think we just [2:18:18] make the decision based off of what we feel the information has been provided for us. [2:18:23] And for me today in context to this decision, I don't know the back stories of what other [2:18:32] discussions have come up and what other justifications have come up but the one that was [2:18:42] for me there's plausibility and that could have actually happened and hey you know what [2:18:49] I put it on the counter for employee gym to take over but in employee Jane through it in the [2:18:55] mail instead that I could see that happening at my place of business not that I'm way in it [2:19:02] again so I shouldn't have said it that way I can see that happening at a place of business my [2:19:07] And so for that purpose, I support the motion that's on the floor. [2:19:18] Councillor Merden. [2:19:19] Well, I'm going to stick with my guns with what I've been saying. [2:19:22] I still think we have to support our administration. [2:19:26] And yes, probably somebody's going to be very upset with what I'm going to say. [2:19:30] But, you know, we're dealing with the bylaws, the way they are. [2:19:37] And if it was somebody's job to bring it down here, they've had two months to get it down [2:19:45] there. [2:19:46] So I'm sorry, but that's my feeling. [2:19:48] You don't have to say, sorry, we're all elected to bring, represent the opinions we have. [2:19:54] Maybe we'll just go around Councillor Snow Grove. [2:19:57] Yeah, like I said before, I feel like this is overly punitive, but that's the bylaw that [2:20:03] exists. [2:20:05] I can see plausibility in all of this and like I really do want to revisit our our by law for groups that made an error and [2:20:16] If they've come up full payment within the next week or whatever that you can either [2:20:22] Resin the penalty to a to a point or apply to next to your tax roll. There's boss options that you can throw out there if [2:20:28] That would be more beneficial to bring people as polite quicker, but I don't have those rules in front of me [2:20:34] also I can't apply them. [2:20:40] This penalty is over, but that's a big number, but it also implies [2:20:44] that there's a large property tax too. So I think as a council consistency is important, [2:20:55] which is why I will probably stay with my vote, but I'm uncomfortable doing it, because [2:20:59] I think it is not already being the policy, but that's for the one we have. [2:21:04] Thank you. [2:21:05] Deputy Mayor Martin? [2:21:09] Yes. [2:21:10] It's definitely a high tax penalty, for sure on this property. [2:21:16] I agree with Councillor Snowberg about revisiting this by law going forward and I'm sure [2:21:21] administration doesn't want the conversations at the front going good and bad, right? [2:21:28] But, yeah, uniformity through some of these tougher decisions sometimes is where we are, [2:21:34] but good old one discussion whether it be good or bad is a good way to use them. [2:21:39] Okay, we have a motion on the floor to charge half of the penalty. [2:21:47] So, I'll ask all in favor, a post for a post defeated. [2:21:55] Can I ask somebody to make a motion on the recommendation? [2:22:11] Yeah, definitely Mayor Martin. [2:22:13] I mean, he's pointing at that point, but that's okay. [2:22:16] The council for the town of Remain uphold the property tax penalty levied against [2:22:20] Rule number 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 9, 9, 3, 0, 0, 0. [2:22:30] Opposed, one, opposed, carried. [2:22:40] We're getting there. 8.6, property tax penalty cancellation, request, roll number, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, [2:22:56] Thank you, Mayor and Council. This request is for two properties. So, this property, both [2:23:05] these properties, the payments were not made by the July 15th payment deadline and [2:23:09] administration had applied penalties to the accounts. We did receive a request from the owner [2:23:15] of both these properties which are non-residential to cancel the property tax payments that were [2:23:23] is $1,510.44 and the other penalties by $131.9. [2:23:32] For this particular situation, the property owner had filled out a form for utility [2:23:38] pre-authorized payments to come out every month, and they were under the understanding that [2:23:44] that possibly was also their taxes, which it was not because it's a completely separate [2:23:48] application and system. The property tax notice is also get mailed to a different property [2:23:54] for the property owner, which is out of province. So I turn it back to council for any questions. [2:24:04] So I just want to clarify it. We mailed the taxes to the wrong address, or was it their address [2:24:11] just out of province? There are address for land titles, which is what we have for tax roll. [2:24:16] Is out of province and so it had been mailed there and so they said that they received received a, you know, the week before they wrote this letter [2:24:26] But it was mailed to the property [2:24:29] Address that is correct on land titles [2:24:32] Okay, thank you [2:24:34] Deputy Mayor Martin, I saw your head there. Yeah [2:24:36] So in a circumstance that you went from a saying annual pay to switching over the monthly say as of today [2:24:45] Would you just be putting payment away for the next five months till your new calendar year? [2:24:53] Since you've already paid up for that term, or do you have to change to a monthly plan at a certain point of time? [2:25:04] Authorities or preauthorized payment applications can be accepted between January and April of the year. [2:25:10] And so, if somebody wanted to apply now, we would just advise them to come January we'd be able to set them up on that. [2:25:21] And the other questions or comments, [2:25:28] deputy mayor, have they filled out the according forms going forward? [2:25:34] Yes, they did. [2:25:40] Councillor McTuff? [2:25:43] We're both of these toxic illnesses in the same envelope. [2:25:49] Same address? [2:25:50] Yes, they were. [2:25:52] And they're saying they didn't get the [2:25:59] tax return letter to last week. [2:26:04] The letters that they would have gotten the week before this likely would have been a letter [2:26:07] advising them that they are in a rears and penalty was applied. [2:26:15] Councillor Conland? [2:26:18] This might be the only one I'm in favor of upholding just because there's a business owner [2:26:24] If you obviously have a bonus of $1,500 or yeah, $1,500 every month, it seems like that's [2:26:31] more of something they should have caught, because that's a seemingly large number of bills [2:26:36] they weren't paying. [2:26:37] So I think this could have been more caught on them. [2:26:42] Councillor McDonough, did you have your hand up against, sorry? [2:26:48] Any other comments? [2:26:51] If not, can I have somebody make a motion on the recommendation? [2:26:58] Councillor Snowgirl, thank you, sir. [2:27:00] Yeah I'm going to set the council for the town perfect manually and up pop with dropped [2:27:03] this levy against rolled number zero zero zero zero zero zero 0 0 to zero zero, the same [2:27:12] 0 zero zero zero, zero, zero zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, [2:27:18] of zero. It's a lot of zero. Thank you for making that motion. All in favor, posed in [2:27:28] none carried. [2:27:33] Eight points. Eight points. Eight points. Eight points. I think you can't [2:27:37] sum it up. The property tax penalty cancellation request roll number 0000210020. I'll turn [2:27:47] over to the administration. [2:27:50] So just for Council's information and just in listening to the [2:27:54] discussion that we're having about the property tax cancellations. Under the MGA, [2:27:59] mail is deemed to have been received by residents seven days after it is mailed. So that's [2:28:04] usually the time that we go by as long as we're mailing it under the MGA, it's deemed [2:28:07] to be received seven days later. Thank you. [2:28:13] I'll turn it over to you. Thank you. Sure. Thank you. [2:28:17] This is the last penalty cancellation request on the agenda for today. And tax rule number 0000 [2:28:25] was 0, 2, 1, 0, 2, 0, 0 was not paid by the July 15th payment and that property is a residential [2:28:32] property and received a penalty of $760 in 19 cents that was applied to their account. [2:28:40] They did stop into the office and asked if we would waive the penalty which we explained [2:28:46] that we cannot under legislation and it needs to come to council, so it is before you [2:28:50] night for decision and this was a situation where the resident touched us for [2:28:57] button. [2:28:59] Thank you. [2:29:00] I'll open up to Council for comments or questions. [2:29:10] Seeing none, I will ask for the motion on the recommendation. [2:29:17] Councillor McDuff. [2:29:18] Move [2:29:21] to the council for the town of Ramellian uphold the property tax penalty levied against roll number [2:29:27] 0 0 0 2 1 0 2 0 0 0 [2:29:34] All in favor? [2:29:37] Opposed [2:29:38] Want to pose? [2:29:40] Carried [2:29:43] Okay, well, I'm just going to make a comment here. Thank you council. I know this is very tough. I know and I already said it once but [2:29:51] We don't make these decisions lightly and we don't want to be judged in jury either, but we will try to [2:30:00] We can see that it was tough to go through this tonight, so thank each one of you, and for public [2:30:06] watching, just know that we do take this very seriously into our public and the gallery. [2:30:12] And we're trying to do what's best for the community. [2:30:14] Thank you administration. [2:30:15] I think you guys are very fair and follow the rules accordingly in everything that you guys did. [2:30:22] And any decisions discussed were not a reflection of any doubts on our side, so thank you [2:30:30] We will move on to round table. [2:30:33] We're going to start. [2:30:34] We messed it up last time when we threw deputy mayor off. [2:30:37] So we're going to start back with councilor. [2:30:39] Still a growth. [2:30:42] Thank you, Mr. Mayor. [2:30:44] For me, as far as official meetings since our last council meeting, [2:30:47] that was pretty quiet. [2:30:48] I had one library meeting where we went over the proposed budget for the upcoming year, [2:30:53] which will be getting presented to council coming soon. [2:30:57] I'll have been not. [2:30:58] It's like a lot of people that really fare. [2:31:01] took up a lot of my time since the last council meeting and I would like to thank all accounts of the [2:31:06] administration for their efforts putting on that show. I can say every single council member I've seen [2:31:10] volunteer at some fashion and fair along with self-members administration. It's very much appreciated. It was a [2:31:16] great event for a community. It goes to show why we have such a great community that the time all the [2:31:21] people give. That's followed up by another event for for the high school finals rodeo national finals. [2:31:28] another lot of volunteers there, lots of people down. Very good event. Thank everyone for their help there. [2:31:34] And after that, I did attend Feast on the Farm with Mayor and several members. [2:31:40] Council on there. And it was a very good event. It shows the support we have for college. It's such [2:31:45] an important part of our town. I think it's the right idea for the town to be there. But also [2:31:51] as members of the council to actually pay our own way to get there. I think it's that's a good [2:31:55] President that both we have down there and that our council also is going to invest in [2:32:01] the important things in our community. [2:32:04] Thank you. [2:32:05] It was very neat to see the high school finals here and just to see our fairgrounds being [2:32:11] used to that capacity. [2:32:13] It looked like there's a whole second fair going on that are eye-growns council-murton. [2:32:21] So, going back to, since we've had a council meeting on June 15th, I volunteered at Camp Day at Tim's with some of administration, June 21st, I jumped in a truck with some fellow counselors and we went and met [2:32:39] minister Dan Williams and Kitskati. [2:32:43] And then the fair hit. So I was happy to be part of the [2:32:47] parade. And on the Sunday I volunteered in the morning from 730 to 11 at Legion for the [2:32:55] pancake breakfast. And later that day I volunteered to sell tickets for the friends of [2:33:00] million booth for their fundraiser. [2:33:06] As I previously mentioned, I voluntarily went to the [2:33:09] CN Station meeting on August 11th. August 12th, I was with Councillor Snell Grove with [2:33:16] the library meeting. And yeah, that's it for what I've done. We've got a whole bunch [2:33:24] of meetings ahead of us. But the one thing I will point out that isn't a meeting that [2:33:30] can forward to going to is art in the park on September the 12th. [2:33:37] Thank you, Kielsen Martin. [2:33:39] Kielsen Conland. [2:33:41] Thanks. [2:33:42] Well, the really unfair of the 120th is coming on once again. [2:33:48] Fantastic event. [2:33:49] Great parade. [2:33:50] I think next year I'm going to buy some better cowboy boots because [2:33:53] that was a tough haul and boots that don't fit right. [2:33:59] Peter just recovering but yeah thank you to all the volunteers and everyone that makes the [2:34:04] fair happen every single year it's a fantastic and I think everybody knows it's the event [2:34:08] that I look forward to every single year so yeah thank you to everybody that attended and the [2:34:15] volunteers make what it is and then after that like we discussed high school rodeo that was [2:34:22] fantastic event and a massive event. [2:34:25] It really brought a lot of people to our community. [2:34:28] Got a lot of recognition and so thank you to everybody [2:34:30] to made that happen as well. [2:34:32] I believe that's a three year contract. [2:34:35] So I'm looking forward to that again next year. [2:34:37] I'll have to plan a little better on the attending more events [2:34:39] of that because it's a look at really great time. [2:34:43] I missed my good life meeting, but I did call page. [2:34:47] And I got some information on that. [2:34:49] And upcoming is art in the park from 11 to 4 on September 12. [2:34:53] So if you're able to attend that, [2:34:55] another fantastic event that I usually attend every year also upcoming. [2:35:00] September 3rd is the inaugural hometown celebration with Nate Haller. [2:35:07] So it's going to be a fantastic concert. [2:35:10] So please get your tickets and I look forward to seeing you all there. [2:35:13] It's a new event as you welcome all the college students, [2:35:15] back to our community, new and old, and everybody in the whole community is allowed to come. [2:35:21] So this is going to be a really good event, and I'm looking forward to it. [2:35:25] And upcoming, school starting, so I'll remember to pay attention to our roads a little more as [2:35:33] kids will be running around and getting excited for that. Thank you very much. Thank you. [2:35:38] Deputy Mayor Martin. We might sound like a broken record here tonight, but yeah, we went to [2:35:45] meet with Minister Dan Williams in Kitskati with her fellow administration as well as counselors [2:35:52] with Premiering Kitskati Mar Wayne ourselves there. Yeah it was good to have the time we did [2:36:01] have with him. I know it was short because he was trying to get everywhere in the province. [2:36:05] For sure, so it's good to have that communication. Yeah, the fair is always always good. [2:36:11] I think I meet more non-residents and people from around and I think maybe our locals [2:36:15] dispense for the weekend. Which is really good. There's so many people that drive quite the [2:36:22] distances for our fair. And just want to thank the ex-sidey and their leaders that bring out [2:36:30] the volunteers for that event. Every year it's... they seem to want up themselves every time. [2:36:36] And I'm sure there's a few stumbling steps on the way. But they pulled off all the time. [2:36:42] rodeo was good to see I think there was more campers and all the trailers and there was the fairtime [2:36:48] but I don't know where they found all the panels but all is good [2:36:52] did to see it for the next couple of years [2:36:54] there was technically two rodeos but yeah it was good like we had a gentleman that spoke the one day and he was [2:37:01] all the way from Georgia and we have right from M in Burntah Marwain here look representation and [2:37:07] to see the signs all up and down that road. So feast on the farm. Yes, it was very another [2:37:15] well attended event, kind of caught off guard that when he swiss part of the presentation on the [2:37:20] video won by, so it was not prepared for that, but it was good to see that it impacts a lot of people for [2:37:27] Thank you for watching, and I'll see you in the next video, and I'll see you in the next video. [2:37:30] Said we have the big September 3rd. There's many people out as you can to fill the ground stand and hopefully Mother Nature commits to not like the other outdoor events that emits and holds and gets rained out or anything like that. But yeah, be good to see. So, and harvest and school is starting. So, the roads will be busy. Thank you. Thank you, Deputy Mayor. Council, my tough. [2:37:54] I'm going to repeat the thought everything that was there since our last meeting in July. [2:38:01] I attended cancer age the next day and worked for one hour, but not as hard as the mayor did. [2:38:09] You guys worked the window. [2:38:12] July 21st, we went to Kidcati, the county office, and met with the Minister of Municipal Affairs Dan Lyons, [2:38:22] With the County Bremenian, the County Town of Mar Wayne and ourselves and the administration attended the fair for three days. [2:38:37] I worked at a rotary booth on the Thursday and most of the people that came through were all heading to the midway and the people my age just seemed to go home because of the age. [2:38:54] It was not a good day for the ticket sales. [2:39:02] I also attended the feast on the farm, I have done several times, and I agree with the [2:39:09] councillors now growth that we should attend it, and we should attend it on the long [2:39:16] I'm looking forward to part of the part that I'm going to be giving out to cinnamon mutants. [2:39:26] And again, we attend that regularly. [2:39:31] I don't know if we're going to be available for September 3rd party. [2:39:43] I'm actually going to be at the league. [2:39:54] Thank [2:39:58] you for your report. [2:40:04] I'm going to copy almost everything so a few things to note. [2:40:09] I had the privilege of going on the curb price show with mayor Albers. [2:40:14] As many of you already know while we all know here as council that we gave a letter to support [2:40:20] looking into trying to give via up on the North line here and so [2:40:26] her price reached out and asked if Mayor Albers and myself would like to chat [2:40:31] on a show and so we had a really good discussion and it's nice to see our two [2:40:38] communities working together and pick in items that we can work on. I also attended [2:40:44] camp day as as a few mentioned already and I'll tell you what's there's one thing harder [2:40:50] than debating taxes that's working at the drive through window okay that is both the hardest [2:40:57] thing I've ever had to go through so kudos to all the ladies and men out there that worked [2:41:05] drive through because I feel they're on appreciate it so if they're listening thank you I appreciate [2:41:11] with Tim Horton's everyday. [2:41:14] Had a chamber of commerce, strategic planning meeting, and this was really good. [2:41:20] I know we've had discussions quite often at that board level, and at this council level of, [2:41:27] how does the chamber fit into our community, and the board decided, let's have a strategic [2:41:33] plan, planning event, and see what our priorities should be for the next four years, and [2:41:40] So it was really good to see that discussion come up and change from, how do we survive? [2:41:47] How do we make money? [2:41:49] How do we really support our businesses and ensure that we offer viable solutions and support [2:41:57] to those businesses so they thrive? [2:42:00] So it's really neat to be a part of that, like many of our already said, we met with Minister [2:42:06] Dan Williams, and I won't go too much in thought because we've already [2:42:10] been there and you guys have already talked about it but the one thing I'd like to point out is [2:42:15] hats off to our administration and to our council because we had this meeting with several [2:42:22] other municipalities and we made a conscious decision to address regional issues. We brought up some [2:42:29] of our own but we made a conscious effort to address regional issues and I think that really shows [2:42:34] the intent of our municipality that we want to work with our municipal neighbors and within [2:42:40] region so we can all succeed and thrive. So hats off to you guys for that. Thank you. [2:42:48] I had a meeting, Alberta Hub. As we had already talked about, I've been elected to that [2:42:53] position. Chair, we had our executive meeting this last month and just talked about some of the [2:43:00] challenges in our region. Some of the challenges that came up were obviously, as we know, the [2:43:08] be funding readers after 2027 so we need to figure out how do we ensure either the government [2:43:17] funds that or we find funding from other opportunities and so some of the discussions came [2:43:23] up about inviting businesses and other stakeholders into provide feedback with us so it was a [2:43:35] good conversation and I think the one thing that I take away from the hub is exactly what I said [2:43:41] about us going to our meeting with the minister Williams there is the goal is to see the whole [2:43:48] region grow. When we grow together we grow stronger and so we had some really good conversations there. [2:43:56] Also thank you to administration for inviting me to to the park with a forestry and park [2:44:04] deputy minister. I don't know how to pronounce his name to Sony. I believe. Thank you. That [2:44:10] not was a sharing. [2:44:13] But I thought it was a really good opportunity to showcase our not only [2:44:19] our park, their park, but to showcase the CN station, to showcase our ice cream. We definitely [2:44:26] the Yohan did a great job, I think you missed your call in, you are definitely an ice cream [2:44:32] slinger. [2:44:34] We just missed the candy stripe both fit, that would have been perfect, [2:44:40] but budget item for [2:44:41] 2027, but it was excellent and administration represented our community and our community's [2:44:49] needs in the park. Very professionally and so I can [2:44:55] see enough about that made and I thought it went over very well. [2:45:00] We rose well to discuss the stiff funding and why we were not successful. I'd asked him to speak with the ministry and see if there are things we could do to improve our chances in the future. [2:45:15] If there were something that held us back and asked him to provide that information to the administration when it comes back. [2:45:22] And as usual, MLA was always been very open to discussion and offered to some digging for us. [2:45:35] I went to where you discussed it earlier tonight, but that's the CN Station public meeting, [2:45:41] where they formally decided to form an association. [2:45:45] And they're going to be setting up a meeting to take the next steps to determine what a board looks like, [2:45:52] and what the executive on that board looks like. [2:45:55] Feast on the farm, that was my first time attending [2:45:58] and amazing event. [2:46:00] I was privileged to go and have the tour before hand [2:46:05] and we all got on to the dark holiday bus, [2:46:08] which is a huge bus, and I think drove straight [2:46:11] through the dairy farm. [2:46:13] That's how big the dairy farm is. [2:46:14] Just blew me away, that was that big. [2:46:16] From the road, it doesn't seem that big, [2:46:18] but that bus could drive straight through the center [2:46:20] blew me away. But a great event, great time to not only network with ourselves and other [2:46:30] municipalities, but with folks from the college, folks from the ag society. Again, we already [2:46:37] hit on it, but the fair this year, you know, it's just a staple in our community when, you [2:46:43] know, when I had the opportunity to speak about or to speak on the opening night ceremonies, [2:46:49] the one thing that came up was the town and the [2:46:54] anxiety essentially were both birth at the same time and immediately the [2:46:59] fair started happening. So this fair has been part of our community in one [2:47:03] form or another. I believe it's the third oldest standing agricultural [2:47:09] fair in the province, or the country I'm not sure about that part, but [2:47:16] Just on that note, August 27, the town of Ormillian does turn 120 years old, so that's kind of a neat milestone for our community. [2:47:29] Attendant Good Life meeting on behalf of Councillor Conlin, and it was great to be there, and just to see the excitement from that committee talking about saver that's coming up obviously art in the park. [2:47:41] And just how they feel those events really bring value to our community was great. [2:47:48] And I'm going to end with the last, but very much the most entertaining one today was our CEO, Shannon and myself, [2:47:59] had the privilege of doing a CBC radio interview. [2:48:02] So hats off to Shannon because she definitely presented well and gave a lot of really good information. [2:48:12] CBC reached out and just wanted to know a little bit of what the town's involvement is with our park. [2:48:19] How do we manage it? How do we partner with the province? [2:48:23] And yeah, I thought it was really good. [2:48:25] I was happy we did not have to be on TV, but radio was, that's my report. [2:48:34] Yes. [2:48:36] Can I just ask where we get the tickets for eight hours? Where can people get the tickets? [2:48:41] They are on eventbrates, so we have a link on our Facebook page, so you can just click that link, and there's also posters up with QR codes. [2:48:48] So if anybody's looking for them, we can certainly get them in touch and get their tickets. [2:48:52] Thank you. [2:48:54] We will move on to 10 correspondence, and because time is getting late, I'll just say [2:49:01] there is presented, does anyone have any questions regarding the correspondence that have [2:49:08] been provided? [2:49:12] No, [2:49:15] close correspondence, and we will move on to close session. [2:49:20] Can I have somebody motion us into close session? [2:49:26] Deputy Mayor. [2:49:27] I moved the Council for the John of Rameleon, moving to closed session at 846, thank you. [2:49:33] Maybe we'll take a five minute battle break. [2:49:36] Larry, thank you for coming, sir. [2:49:38] Glad to see you back. [2:49:40] No, we're gonna go.