1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:03,300 Good afternoon. 2 00:00:07,300 --> 00:00:15,900 Welcome to Vernon City Council. September 8th, 2026, 1.30 PM, I'll call this meeting 3 00:00:15,900 --> 00:00:21,500 order. As mayor and the city of Vernon, the spirit of this gathering, I recognize the city 4 00:00:21,500 --> 00:00:26,340 of Vernon is located a traditional territory of the sealed people of the Okanagan Nation. 5 00:00:28,470 --> 00:00:34,790 Just as I get underway, I'd like to take a moment since this is our first time that we have met 6 00:00:34,790 --> 00:00:39,750 since the Bradley Creek wildfire and the kilpotok wildfire. 7 00:00:40,590 --> 00:00:46,390 As mayor Vernon, I want to express my sincere heartfelt condolences to all those affected 8 00:00:46,390 --> 00:00:48,890 by the Bradley Creek wildfire. 9 00:00:49,970 --> 00:00:56,130 Thousands of people were evacuated from the fire zone and had to seek temporary accommodation 10 00:00:56,130 --> 00:00:59,250 leaving them to worry about what they left behind. 11 00:01:00,210 --> 00:01:10,330 As evacuation orders have been lifted, residents have returned to find their lives upended and upside-down. 12 00:01:10,810 --> 00:01:14,250 Lost home structures, animals and livelihoods. 13 00:01:15,290 --> 00:01:19,710 I can only imagine how difficult this must be for them. 14 00:01:20,510 --> 00:01:24,890 I also want to say how proud I am of the people of the city of Vernon. 15 00:01:24,890 --> 00:01:30,330 There has been a huge outpouring of support from the community. 16 00:01:31,150 --> 00:01:37,490 Many people have donated food, clothing, other necessities, or have given to the wildfire 17 00:01:37,490 --> 00:01:41,810 response funds, the Salvation Army Food Bank, or the United Way. 18 00:01:42,390 --> 00:01:48,250 School District 22 in local and regional businesses also stepped up to organize donations 19 00:01:48,930 --> 00:01:52,250 without a word, without a word of their own recognition. 20 00:01:52,250 --> 00:01:58,590 In addition, staff at the city of Vernon and other local communities, staff with provincial 21 00:01:58,590 --> 00:02:05,110 organizations, professionals and paid-on call firefighters, BC wildfire service personnel, 22 00:02:05,810 --> 00:02:12,950 emergency operations staff here, emergency support staff, services staff, volunteers, and 23 00:02:12,950 --> 00:02:22,230 Oconognesian band emergency personnel. All deserve a huge thank you for how for you, for your 24 00:02:22,230 --> 00:02:28,430 capacity and commitment to helping others during a traumatic and dangerous situation. 25 00:02:29,610 --> 00:02:35,610 So as Marin Council, continue to focus on response and resilience to drought, fire and other 26 00:02:35,610 --> 00:02:36,590 extreme events. 27 00:02:37,170 --> 00:02:41,170 My thoughts were made with those who suffered the losses this summer. 28 00:02:41,750 --> 00:02:43,990 And thank all who pitched in. 29 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,320 Ms. Wood, are there any amendments to today's agenda? 30 00:02:52,020 --> 00:03:00,880 Your worship. There is one addition to the agenda. We'll go under item 13.8.2. It's the 31 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:07,140 Science Center request for letter support and there's a copy of them at your desks. 32 00:03:08,140 --> 00:03:12,420 Thank you, Ms. Wooden. Can I have a motion to adopt the agenda? Councillor Guy, Councillor 33 00:03:12,420 --> 00:03:19,820 Derny. Any comments on the agenda? Seeing none. I'll call the question. All those in favor. Those 34 00:03:19,820 --> 00:03:22,300 posting, none motion is carried. 35 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:29,600 Can I get a motion to adopt the regular meeting minutes of the 20th of July, 2026, the 36 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:34,960 public hearing of the same date, and the committee of the whole Social High 2026. 37 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,520 Councillor Munn, Councillor Garrison, any comments? 38 00:03:40,260 --> 00:03:45,800 Seeing none, I'll call the question, all those in favor, those opposed motion is carried. 39 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:52,200 So, moving now to General Matters, we get a presentation from the RCMP, second quarter of 40 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:58,140 report, and the superintendent gets to be the first one to drive the new bus for those 41 00:03:58,140 --> 00:04:05,460 who are online or in the council chamber, she'll now file it yourself facing another direction. 42 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:11,520 We've turned the council chamber's 90 degrees, and for those who knew the council of days 43 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:26,800 It's gone by. It was like this. So we returned back to the old and they refreshed things like carpets and electronics and cameras. Hopefully to improve the experience for everyone involved. 44 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:33,440 Welcome Superintendent and Inspector Kennedy. So you're standing at the back much appreciated. The floor is yours. 45 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:43,560 Okay, good afternoon Mr. Mayor. Thank you very much and council members and city staff. 46 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,080 Thank you very much for having us here today. 47 00:04:46,780 --> 00:04:51,240 I have Inspector Kennedy who's actually going to present the quarterly reports for us. 48 00:04:52,420 --> 00:04:55,440 And I will stay for the duration as well. 49 00:04:55,980 --> 00:04:59,180 And just so you know with yourselves and all of our communities. 50 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:05,080 This is what I'm having is I want to have the people who are actually connected with operations a bit more. 51 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:12,420 I'm going to present the stats because they are there as they are well aware of the information and what's going on in real time. 52 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,940 As you can see, these stats end at the end of June. 53 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,120 So that's why I'm having more of my operational people presenting these. 54 00:05:20,180 --> 00:05:23,280 But I will be here moving forward for the presentations as well. 55 00:05:23,780 --> 00:05:24,320 So thank you for having me. 56 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:24,660 Thank you. 57 00:05:25,300 --> 00:05:25,400 Thank you. 58 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:25,720 Thank you. 59 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,000 Thank you. 60 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,360 Good afternoon, Mr. Mayor. 61 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:40,680 staff, councillors, according to reporting for the period of April to June, this happens 62 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,860 to be a quarter that I'm happy to present because as you will see our numbers are actually 63 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:46,620 very good. 64 00:05:49,250 --> 00:05:53,130 We get right into the first slide. Total calls for service. 65 00:05:55,580 --> 00:05:55,760 We're working 66 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,700 it on my work. We're going to owe being given the control, watch out people. 67 00:06:02,220 --> 00:06:02,500 Okay, here 68 00:06:02,500 --> 00:06:07,460 you go. You see, for a city of Vernon, you can see that for the same quarter reporting 69 00:06:07,460 --> 00:06:15,380 from 2025 to 2026, your numbers are very so slightly 0.3% so running about the same as this quarter 70 00:06:15,380 --> 00:06:23,180 last year from 5,028 to 5,044. So just marginally out of every so slightly. 71 00:06:26,100 --> 00:06:27,380 From no code cases, 72 00:06:28,180 --> 00:06:33,980 we are down almost 3%. So these are your total of all types of criminal code offenses, 73 00:06:33,980 --> 00:06:40,480 down from 17.55, down to 17.04 from the same period in 2025. 74 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:49,220 Violent offenses, this is something to celebrate, down 16.3% this quarter from 75 00:06:49,220 --> 00:06:52,440 319 and 25 to 267, 76 00:06:56,350 --> 00:07:02,710 and property offenses, just up ever so slightly 2.1% again, a very 77 00:07:02,710 --> 00:07:10,030 small number of change from 922, 20 more occurrences in 2026, same reporting period, 942. 78 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:23,020 Area where we're still striving to fit in all operational pressures and be visible out on our roadways. 79 00:07:23,900 --> 00:07:28,140 We're down 19.8% in our overall traffic contacts for the city. 80 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:29,980 Then we spoke last year about the... 81 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:38,240 Put on the police with extra reporting for Crown Council, and so again, this is a direct linkage 82 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:39,800 to the reason for the complaint. 83 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:46,480 We do have a reserve constable that's being brought on board, who's primarily one of his primary 84 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,420 duties will be traffic enforcement in the city of Vernon 2, so we hope to have that number 85 00:07:50,420 --> 00:07:51,100 back up. 86 00:07:55,210 --> 00:08:00,170 I'm just going to speak real quickly on some of our key other areas, such as prolific offenders, 87 00:08:00,170 --> 00:08:03,670 Just to give you an update in this reporting period, we had 11 identified 88 00:08:03,670 --> 00:08:09,970 political offenders for who are remaining custody and seven who are not in custody of 89 00:08:09,970 --> 00:08:13,730 these seven reside in or known to frequent the city of Vernon. 90 00:08:15,250 --> 00:08:20,470 On our revoi, which is a report repeat violent offender intervention, which is the 91 00:08:20,470 --> 00:08:26,090 provincial program that's funded through the province, we currently have six individuals 92 00:08:26,090 --> 00:08:31,250 identified in the Vernon, Northorganogum, three currently remaining custody and three out of 93 00:08:31,250 --> 00:08:36,850 custody who do reside in the Vernon area. And then we have a new provincial program that was 94 00:08:36,850 --> 00:08:41,710 introduced, believe I spoke about it last eating, which is your chronic property offending 95 00:08:41,710 --> 00:08:46,990 intervention program. We're moving away from the term prolifer fender as we transition those 96 00:08:46,990 --> 00:08:52,370 most highest repeat property crime offenders into what we're in alcoholing sequoic, 97 00:08:52,370 --> 00:08:56,490 the chronic property offenders, and we now have two individuals who have been identified 98 00:08:56,490 --> 00:09:02,410 and are part of that program, and that are being monitored by our partner agencies as 99 00:09:02,410 --> 00:09:03,170 well as the police. 100 00:09:10,580 --> 00:09:18,940 I'm just going to go into one last one, so our mental health files down 37.7% 532 occurrences 101 00:09:18,940 --> 00:09:26,220 compared to 331, I checked in with our integrated program, the ICIR integrated crisis response 102 00:09:26,220 --> 00:09:26,860 team. 103 00:09:26,860 --> 00:09:32,780 They've been working very hard to do a lot of education, working with clients that repeatedly 104 00:09:32,780 --> 00:09:37,960 call police were support, and there's been measures put in place to reduce those calls, 105 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:42,780 which means there's less police intervention on what would typically be a mental health 106 00:09:42,780 --> 00:09:43,860 or a health crisis. 107 00:09:44,420 --> 00:09:49,480 So that is a direct result of the efforts and the education that's being done jointly through 108 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:54,040 our interior health partners and the nurses at work with us and our principals at work 109 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:54,740 with the program. 110 00:09:57,850 --> 00:10:10,290 In this reporting period, we had a few community things, I'll just make note of, so we ended up out in the community, again, it was the John Mingge Youth Academy. 111 00:10:10,730 --> 00:10:17,610 We had 49 successful candidates or 50, I believe, that went through another great successful year. 112 00:10:17,610 --> 00:10:29,150 We participated in McCapy days and also special Olympics softball game with special Olympics, which was a really good event. 113 00:10:30,190 --> 00:10:33,310 And yeah, I would note about in other communities as well. 114 00:10:33,550 --> 00:10:40,930 I'm happy to take any questions or concerns. I can also speak quickly on our efforts in regards to e-bikes and e-bikes. 115 00:10:40,930 --> 00:10:46,990 I know that was a hot topic last time, so just I'll give you a little preview to next quarter 116 00:10:46,990 --> 00:10:52,510 reporting but since then we have actually charged two individuals on the motor vehicle act 117 00:10:52,510 --> 00:10:59,870 and the criminal code for driving well impaired on E devices. We have had also a 13 year old I mentioned 118 00:10:59,870 --> 00:11:05,330 last time it was going to happen our community sooner than later and incident unfortunately luckily 119 00:11:05,330 --> 00:11:11,390 the 13 year old youth was not hurt but was involved in a collision with a vehicle because 120 00:11:11,390 --> 00:11:17,830 they were failing to abide by the rules of the road. So that's just a little brief update and 121 00:11:17,830 --> 00:11:25,890 we've had two alcohol related instances where we've seized the and the e-devices and they 122 00:11:25,890 --> 00:11:27,150 be an impounded. So 123 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,180 the next, what I have for you this afternoon, happy to entertain any questions. 124 00:11:34,820 --> 00:11:43,500 Thank you and thank you for your presentation today. It's always excellent when we get 125 00:11:43,500 --> 00:11:48,260 positive news. I just have a quick question just to clarify for me the repeat violent 126 00:11:48,260 --> 00:11:55,580 offender intervention initiative and the chronic property offending intervention initiative. 127 00:11:56,100 --> 00:12:01,700 Are those individuals like duplicated? Are they separate? Are they do some along? 128 00:12:01,700 --> 00:12:06,600 does an individual could actually belong to like both of those initiatives? 129 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:08,920 Yeah, it's one or the other. 130 00:12:09,560 --> 00:12:14,400 So there's criteria that the individuals who are presented to the programs that must meet, 131 00:12:14,740 --> 00:12:17,680 and it's where the best are going to be monitored. 132 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,360 So if an individual is both violent and commits property crime, 133 00:12:21,540 --> 00:12:23,460 but the violent offenses take the priority, 134 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,040 and they're going to be better suited to be monitored. 135 00:12:27,260 --> 00:12:29,820 So that program, they are part of the reevali. 136 00:12:29,820 --> 00:12:36,220 Individuals that are strictly just property crime and committing like I said it's usually the 5% committing 95% of the crime 137 00:12:36,220 --> 00:12:40,800 They would be strictly the new property crime 138 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:46,820 See-point program. So there is no duplications. So when I speak of numbers, they would be completely separate parties 139 00:12:46,820 --> 00:12:49,460 That's good information one more question absolutely 140 00:12:49,460 --> 00:12:55,240 So I did notice this morning that at the coast a lot of the schools are not allowing e-bikes 141 00:12:55,240 --> 00:13:00,040 to chain up her secure on property for the youth. 142 00:13:00,540 --> 00:13:02,380 I'm wondering if our school district here, 143 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,280 if you've talked to them regarding any initiatives 144 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,420 around maybe going in the same direction? 145 00:13:08,260 --> 00:13:09,560 Yeah, so last time I presented, 146 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,900 I mentioned we presented to school district 22. 147 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:14,880 They've taken the stance that no, 148 00:13:15,580 --> 00:13:17,960 immobility devices will be allowed on school property. 149 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:19,740 However, I will have to follow up 150 00:13:19,740 --> 00:13:21,040 with our school district superintendent 151 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,060 to see if they're gonna apply that to the six-year-olds 152 00:13:24,060 --> 00:13:29,620 that are actually illegally allowed to ride electric assisted bikes, or 14-year-olds who are allowed 153 00:13:29,620 --> 00:13:37,440 to legally ride light e-bikes. I do believe at first, first, flush they were going to not off 154 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:43,520 allow any, but I have to see if their positions changed. But for sure, no e-shooters, they weren't allowing 155 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:49,820 any, you know, segways or the e-dirt bikes at all. Excellent. Okay, thank you so much and thank you again for 156 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:59,180 I agree with you, this is a good report to come in and report on, so I had a question 157 00:13:59,180 --> 00:14:04,400 around mental health, so your mental health calls decreased by 37.7% which is positive. 158 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:12,300 With the ICRTs response to 200 calls and the rollout of the health IM app, can you comment 159 00:14:12,300 --> 00:14:14,880 on how the real time data is improving outcomes? 160 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:17,300 I was prepared. 161 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,780 I did not have quarter-toes health. 162 00:14:19,980 --> 00:14:24,100 I am report for you, but starting next quarter, I think it'd be appropriate to share 163 00:14:24,100 --> 00:14:25,440 some of that data for you. 164 00:14:26,020 --> 00:14:27,720 So for example, I can speak to August. 165 00:14:27,780 --> 00:14:28,880 I have August. 166 00:14:29,700 --> 00:14:32,260 It's not part of this quarter that I'm presenting on. 167 00:14:32,500 --> 00:14:39,860 But just to highlight, we had 13 mental health occurrences of those 13, 13 individuals 168 00:14:39,860 --> 00:14:42,260 were apprehended under the mental health act. 169 00:14:42,260 --> 00:14:52,360 two were repeat clients meeting we had previously apprehended them. There was the other 11 were brand new brand new 170 00:14:52,740 --> 00:14:56,500 present with a call brand new presentations and there was no chronic 171 00:15:00,050 --> 00:15:12,010 In a 90-day period, we did not have any of those. So moving forward, I am prepared and will provide you with a quarterly 2 or a 43 report of the overall mental health breakdown. 172 00:15:12,190 --> 00:15:21,090 We can include that for you. Starting up to be a very valuable tool, helping officers make a better, better informed decision. 173 00:15:21,770 --> 00:15:27,570 And also like I said to the work of our program, the ICRT car, that partnership is proving 174 00:15:27,570 --> 00:15:33,210 valuable as far as reducing the amount of time police officers are spending on what is 175 00:15:33,210 --> 00:15:36,030 otherwise a mental health call. 176 00:15:36,770 --> 00:15:42,130 So then my last question, and it totally, do you feel them that it is actually saving time 177 00:15:42,130 --> 00:15:42,750 for your members? 178 00:15:42,910 --> 00:15:44,990 Are you seeing that time reduction? 179 00:15:47,610 --> 00:15:48,310 Time will tell. 180 00:15:49,510 --> 00:15:52,370 But I would be more than happy if you ask that question to me. 181 00:15:52,370 --> 00:15:56,750 in three to four months, I can show you this statistical data 182 00:15:56,750 --> 00:15:58,310 on our wait times of the hospital. 183 00:15:58,610 --> 00:16:01,430 And I can tell you right now, our wait times are averaging 184 00:16:01,430 --> 00:16:03,710 anywhere between 40 minutes to one hour, 185 00:16:03,950 --> 00:16:05,490 which is really, really good. 186 00:16:05,590 --> 00:16:07,630 We like to see it down under 40 minutes, 187 00:16:08,270 --> 00:16:09,650 but we're working with our partners 188 00:16:09,650 --> 00:16:12,110 and they have their own pressures as well. 189 00:16:12,570 --> 00:16:14,390 But with that is where we're also seeing a benefit 190 00:16:14,390 --> 00:16:17,110 is that real-time data getting to the hospital 191 00:16:17,110 --> 00:16:19,850 in advance of our attendance for it to be reviewed 192 00:16:19,850 --> 00:16:21,630 for them to be prepared for our attendance 193 00:16:21,630 --> 00:16:27,690 to see a quicker turnover between a police apprehension and then when the doctor makes the decision 194 00:16:27,690 --> 00:16:32,910 to commit or not. I could tell you comparatively from the lower mainland, you're looking 195 00:16:32,910 --> 00:16:37,970 in excess of three hours a week time, which is a huge drain on police resourcing, right? 196 00:16:38,170 --> 00:16:41,810 So here we're very fortunate that we've got a great partnership with Interior Health and 197 00:16:41,810 --> 00:16:46,010 that our week times are, in fact, on the lower end of under an hour, which is really promising. 198 00:16:50,260 --> 00:16:50,580 Thank you. 199 00:16:51,420 --> 00:16:52,180 Thanks Mr. Mayor. 200 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:53,160 Thanks for the report. 201 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:54,620 It's like it is. 202 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:55,840 You said it's a good report. 203 00:16:56,900 --> 00:17:00,260 I had three points and you've actually touched on all of them already. 204 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:05,260 The first was about mental health files, but you answered my question in your presentation. 205 00:17:06,180 --> 00:17:13,980 On the traffic counts, you've focused on the Vernon numbers in your remarks and indeed 206 00:17:13,980 --> 00:17:14,640 they are down. 207 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:22,260 But overall in the region, they're up almost to the level they were at two years ago, 208 00:17:22,740 --> 00:17:29,020 up 20% roughly, and including this category of Vernon provincial, where there are almost 209 00:17:29,020 --> 00:17:32,800 twice as many as last year. 210 00:17:32,820 --> 00:17:34,980 Do you want to say anything about that? 211 00:17:34,980 --> 00:17:37,040 Okay, many of them are up. 212 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:43,040 It's really just the Vernon that's notably not up. 213 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,600 Generally, as an integrated attachment, 214 00:17:47,220 --> 00:17:49,960 any road safety that's done anywhere through any of the communities 215 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,960 is a direct benefit to the city of Vernon. 216 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,860 Our citizens travel throughout our region, 217 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:57,260 not exclusively just in Vernon, 218 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,020 so Vernon resident could possibly be stopped in Armstrong. 219 00:18:02,020 --> 00:18:03,900 So generally speaking, 220 00:18:03,900 --> 00:18:08,640 of stocks that are up traffic-wise, it is a benefit to the greater area in 221 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:08,920 rate. 222 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:09,980 Okay. 223 00:18:10,220 --> 00:18:10,240 Thanks. 224 00:18:10,340 --> 00:18:12,580 And the other thing was about the kids on e-bikes. 225 00:18:12,780 --> 00:18:16,580 That was another thing that I was concerned about last June when we talked about it. 226 00:18:16,580 --> 00:18:17,460 I think it was June. 227 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,920 And at that time, you talked about your heavy focus being on education. 228 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:30,260 And now that school is back, are you going to be ramping up your presence in the schools, 229 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,740 doing education for kids and parents and teachers? 230 00:18:32,740 --> 00:19:01,800 So, we'll be going back again to, so we're going to work with our partners and leverage that capacity and have school district assist us because it's not possible for us to present to every single parent, but we will make ourselves available at certain meetings where it would be most value for us to be present and to present on this, but we're going to really leverage the partnership that we have with the school district to really champion this, our time again is, we don't have a lot of unfettered time. 231 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:09,060 So we'll choose to use it wisely, but where appropriate we most certainly will go in and join with our partners with the school's air to meet presentations. 232 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:17,580 So I don't have anything lined up, but I'll be working through a principal, Crystal Eski, who does prime is our primary point of contact for the school district management. 233 00:19:25,980 --> 00:19:34,560 I've noticed in my summer, minor, summer holidays this year that this issue of electrified devices 234 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:43,180 goes well beyond the coin fines of the North America and it's a common comment among 235 00:19:43,180 --> 00:19:46,320 the other provinces and other jurisdictions. 236 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,260 And so I'm glad we're taking it serious. 237 00:19:50,060 --> 00:19:59,220 And when you see an individual that the cross bars on a electric kick scooter are almost 238 00:19:59,220 --> 00:20:08,400 at his chin, then you know that the child is a child, and probably should not be on electric 239 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,140 kick scooter when the handle bar is about at their chin. 240 00:20:12,140 --> 00:20:27,740 So, yes, this is an ongoing issue and I know there are many communities that are quite concerned about the electric dirt bike, particularly, and we've had our first incident here that unfortunately. 241 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:35,320 So, we do appreciate you joining many forces here across the country beginning to deal with this. 242 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:42,940 new and somewhat say enjoy all but not so safe how that it's beginning to form so much 243 00:20:42,940 --> 00:20:49,640 appreciated. So pretend to thank you also for the work you do and seeing your members 244 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:56,680 out in a boat very helpful and also the the two major wildfires in our area and I do 245 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:02,040 know that your staff was there at the beginning knocking on doors helping panic to people 246 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,200 move the region very, very quickly. 247 00:21:04,360 --> 00:21:07,780 So I've had a number of thank yous express to me, 248 00:21:07,780 --> 00:21:10,340 whether I was in a grocery store or somewhere else 249 00:21:10,340 --> 00:21:13,200 people wanting to make sure that your forces 250 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,080 were aware of how they changed their life 251 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,740 by having one of your members pounding at their door 252 00:21:20,740 --> 00:21:23,480 and saying, no, they didn't have time to open their trainer. 253 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,260 And it was time to go and go quickly. 254 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,060 So thank you very much. 255 00:21:28,060 --> 00:21:35,240 Thank you very much for your force for reacting so quickly on that very traumatic Saturday afternoon. 256 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:36,100 Much appreciated. 257 00:21:36,740 --> 00:21:37,560 Thank you very much. 258 00:21:37,900 --> 00:21:38,200 Appreciate it. 259 00:21:39,580 --> 00:21:39,840 Council. 260 00:21:40,140 --> 00:21:41,440 Can I have a motion to receive? 261 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,280 Please, Councillor Garish, Councillor Mung. 262 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:44,940 Any comments? 263 00:21:45,700 --> 00:21:46,340 Seeing none. 264 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:46,980 Call the question. 265 00:21:47,140 --> 00:21:47,680 I was in favor. 266 00:21:48,180 --> 00:21:48,660 I was opposed. 267 00:21:49,140 --> 00:21:49,360 Motion care. 268 00:21:49,540 --> 00:21:50,120 Thank you, gentlemen. 269 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:57,260 Next item. 270 00:21:57,860 --> 00:22:00,840 Presentation of the Council of Immuneration Committee. 271 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:05,360 and I welcome Ms. Rachel and so much appreciate it. 272 00:22:05,380 --> 00:22:07,320 Thanks for joining us this afternoon. 273 00:22:08,620 --> 00:22:10,000 The floor is yours. 274 00:22:59,580 --> 00:23:01,100 How do 275 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,950 we catch up on the screen? How do you get your notes? 276 00:23:18,260 --> 00:23:19,800 Missiles, are we waiting for something? 277 00:23:22,510 --> 00:23:23,590 Good. And is it operating? 278 00:23:26,050 --> 00:23:27,330 The microphone is not operating? 279 00:23:33,450 --> 00:23:37,170 No, there are a classical green or blue. There's a second color. 280 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,580 We're a high technical place here. 281 00:24:10,910 --> 00:24:13,330 All right, we'll start with that. Pardon us. 282 00:24:13,330 --> 00:24:15,710 Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Council. 283 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:26,360 So sorry. 284 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,440 Thank you, Ms. Os. 285 00:24:55,980 --> 00:24:56,800 Okay, let's try this again. 286 00:24:56,820 --> 00:24:57,620 We'll start again. 287 00:24:57,780 --> 00:24:58,560 Thank you, Ms. Nessori. 288 00:25:00,140 --> 00:25:02,180 First day after major changes. 289 00:25:03,620 --> 00:25:05,400 Good afternoon, Mr. Mayor. 290 00:25:05,820 --> 00:25:08,000 Councilors and staff. 291 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,680 My name is Rachel Enz and I'll be presenting the 292 00:25:12,660 --> 00:25:14,320 Remuneration Committee report. 293 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:22,620 My self Glen Benescheck and Deborah Law met over the summer did quite a number of, 294 00:25:23,180 --> 00:25:31,900 sorry, quite an amount of research about pay structures within City Council. 295 00:25:31,900 --> 00:25:43,180 and the mayor, we compared Vernon with several comparative cities and our conclusions, 296 00:25:45,820 --> 00:25:54,360 where the recommendations that we're making to council was to find the right balance between 297 00:25:54,360 --> 00:26:04,180 keeping costs for taxpayers reasonable, but also suggesting a fair inequitable 298 00:26:04,180 --> 00:26:07,560 pay structure for our counselors. 299 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:11,060 Our findings, 300 00:26:13,140 --> 00:26:18,620 the summary of our report is that the mayor's salary is to be adjusted 301 00:26:18,620 --> 00:26:26,000 in twenty twenty six by applying the average of the previous four year. 302 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:26,280 I'm 303 00:26:30,250 --> 00:26:38,850 sorry. Trying to read, applying the previous four year annual B.C. 304 00:26:39,050 --> 00:26:43,870 Concealer price index August over August to their salary, a cost of living 305 00:26:43,870 --> 00:26:50,970 adjustment effective in Operation Day. So in other words, the Mayor's salary will stay on 306 00:26:50,970 --> 00:26:58,570 par with what it is. Councillor Salary will be increased to 40 percent of the salary of 307 00:26:58,570 --> 00:27:05,970 the mayor. After the salary of the mayor is adjusted for the consumer price index, effective 308 00:27:05,970 --> 00:27:12,110 in Operation Day, the Mayor's salary will continue to have an annual cost of living adjustment 309 00:27:12,110 --> 00:27:18,890 based on the previous four years, effective November 1st of each year. 310 00:27:19,510 --> 00:27:25,670 Marin Council will receive the exempt staff benefit package with the exception of long-term 311 00:27:25,670 --> 00:27:32,330 disability and the municipal pension plan. We've eliminated the committee meeting 312 00:27:32,330 --> 00:27:40,210 and paste stipend found in the policy and that was because of the increase to Councillor's 313 00:27:40,210 --> 00:27:40,610 salaries. 314 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:56,960 And we made one other recommendation that should the acting mayor be away from their role for 315 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,560 either an 316 00:28:00,700 --> 00:28:07,840 injury or a long-term disability, if that comes greater than 60 days, the counselor 317 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:16,240 who is filling in as acting mayor will be paid at the mayor's salary for the months or months 318 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:25,510 that are in addition to those 60 days. And that is the gist of our report. Thank you. 319 00:28:26,150 --> 00:28:33,610 Thank you, Ms. Adams. I'd appreciate it. Counsel and any questions of Ms. Andrew, representing 320 00:28:33,610 --> 00:28:34,570 the committee. 321 00:28:36,290 --> 00:28:37,370 I'll respond to 322 00:28:39,740 --> 00:28:39,780 him. 323 00:28:39,980 --> 00:28:40,860 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 324 00:28:41,740 --> 00:28:47,780 I mean, look at it. It looks kind of about getting an increase as we're going into this 325 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:48,880 year. 326 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:54,940 But I thought about this and I said it would be, look, even worse if the new council came in 327 00:28:54,940 --> 00:28:56,140 and they were making the decision. 328 00:28:56,140 --> 00:29:00,140 So I think the decision will be best if we make it. 329 00:29:01,620 --> 00:29:03,720 I'm glad that we're getting rid of the stipend. 330 00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:05,260 I think that's the right move. 331 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,300 I've always, I've never collected the stipend 332 00:29:07,300 --> 00:29:09,280 of my 12 years here, so. 333 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,440 But I think that's, I suppose, consider it part of our job. 334 00:29:15,860 --> 00:29:17,800 Then you gotta consider if there's any committees 335 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,780 where people have to travel. 336 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,160 I think there's still to be something there. 337 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:33,120 You know, when you're traveling, sometimes you have to travel up and take in way out salmon arm and then meeting and then back. 338 00:29:33,860 --> 00:29:41,840 Again, this isn't for me, this is for consideration for others who may have to take time off work to do this committee work. 339 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:48,140 That's, otherwise I like the recommendations, I'm fine with them. 340 00:29:48,140 --> 00:29:56,960 I just want to make sure that we consider not to start cells if they grow all pretty well off here, but somebody else runs for it. 341 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:10,320 I can't hesitate to take time off a work to do the jobs of traveling out of town. Probably should be paid for it somehow. 342 00:30:17,500 --> 00:30:18,040 Councilor Gears. 343 00:30:19,220 --> 00:30:30,600 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And thank you very much for your group for putting all the work together. I know it's not an easy task to determine what the best remuneration would be for any incoming council. 344 00:30:31,580 --> 00:30:37,740 with regards to this to the stipend. I do agree with that. I like my fellow councilor here 345 00:30:37,740 --> 00:30:42,540 in the eight years I've been here. I've never actually taken a stipend. But I think it's important 346 00:30:42,540 --> 00:30:48,140 for us to note that that is, if I'm correct, that stipend is only applicable to internal 347 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:55,300 city of Vernon committees, not external. Most of the committees where you tend to do some 348 00:30:55,300 --> 00:31:01,780 are usually external committees and they're not typically the internal ones anyway and there's 349 00:31:01,780 --> 00:31:08,520 different rules and regulations that are around those external committees from those organizations 350 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:14,720 that are putting that on. So I think with the increase in the counselor pay that offsets that's 351 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:19,080 what those stiffens would be and it makes it a bit more fair and equitable because the one thing I 352 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:27,860 I don't think we've actually acknowledged is that you may never get on any of those external or those internal committees. 353 00:31:28,660 --> 00:31:34,760 And so those individuals that are continually on there would have that advantage to be able to collect that stipend. 354 00:31:34,860 --> 00:31:40,720 Even though we might be placed on a bunch of external committees that don't actually have a stipend. 355 00:31:41,060 --> 00:31:42,640 That's applicable to that. 356 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:50,880 So I think this is just fair, and it allows the public to really know exactly what that value is and it's consistent across the board. 357 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:57,640 So I think the recommendations are fair, and I would be prepared to support the recommendation as noted. 358 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:13,720 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And thank you, Rachel, for this excellent work. I also am in support of not having a stipend. 359 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:20,180 I do just have a question, it's only because I don't know and need to ask is when 360 00:32:20,180 --> 00:32:26,860 Councillors travel or, like, excessively for their role, is there anything internally with 361 00:32:26,860 --> 00:32:29,480 the city that covers their kilometers for travel? 362 00:32:33,910 --> 00:32:34,490 Is that timing? 363 00:32:41,420 --> 00:32:43,540 I believe there's a separate policy for travel. 364 00:32:44,340 --> 00:32:49,120 Okay, and I do know that some of the committee meetings they actually pay you to travel. 365 00:32:49,740 --> 00:32:51,680 So, thank you for that, and thank you for your work. 366 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:56,250 I think it's excellent and we're moving in the right direction for the next council coming on. 367 00:33:00,300 --> 00:33:00,680 Sounds good. 368 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,000 Yeah, thanks Mr. Mayor. 369 00:33:03,380 --> 00:33:10,460 Yeah, firstly, external committees have their own salary and the way of dealing with pay for 370 00:33:10,460 --> 00:33:14,480 for meeting. So we're not talking about that here. We're just talking about internal committee meetings 371 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:24,560 and we set up the membership of those meetings every year and each of us sits on two or maybe three 372 00:33:24,980 --> 00:33:29,880 such committees and we don't do much traveling. Any traveling, meanings are usually right here. 373 00:33:31,580 --> 00:33:34,720 So I don't think that's a problem. So I like what you've suggested there. 374 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:42,960 Acting pay for absence is more than 60 days. So it's a good idea except that we have a different acting 375 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:49,220 mayor every month. So for the first 30 days of an absence we've got one mayor for the next 30 days. 376 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,580 We've got another one acting mayor for the next 30 days. We have another acting mayor. 377 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,980 And then after day 60 there'd be a third acting mayor. 378 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:05,360 So, no acting mayor is in the way we do it is ever going to act for more than 30 days. 379 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:11,480 So I'm not sure that as long as we keep the way we're doing it now, we don't need this. 380 00:34:15,950 --> 00:34:21,490 So who would get the big boost in salary? The third acting mayor came in on day 61. 381 00:34:22,930 --> 00:34:23,790 Yes, please. 382 00:34:25,830 --> 00:34:26,470 Good question. 383 00:34:27,410 --> 00:34:27,570 Good question. 384 00:34:27,570 --> 00:34:28,030 Thanks, Your Worship. 385 00:34:30,490 --> 00:34:36,830 When council points are acting mayor as you correct every month, should the mayor not be 386 00:34:36,830 --> 00:34:43,750 in attendance for greater than 60 days, whoever the acting mayor is in that given month would be eligible for 387 00:34:43,750 --> 00:34:50,390 the mayor's salary, as it rotates to the next person, then they would be eligible for that salary, until the 388 00:34:50,390 --> 00:34:53,630 Americans returns to the, they have that chair position. 389 00:34:55,670 --> 00:34:55,790 Okay. 390 00:34:56,270 --> 00:34:56,630 That's fair. 391 00:34:57,270 --> 00:34:57,530 Okay. 392 00:34:57,970 --> 00:35:00,350 The other, another question about long-term disability. 393 00:35:02,090 --> 00:35:07,750 Your report says that counselors aren't eligible because we aren't full time. 394 00:35:08,530 --> 00:35:10,150 In that case, why do we do it now? 395 00:35:11,590 --> 00:35:13,330 At why does any municipality do it now? 396 00:35:13,350 --> 00:35:18,010 You said in your report that about 10% of the municipality surveyed actually do it now, 397 00:35:18,130 --> 00:35:19,530 but none of them have full time counselors. 398 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:32,900 The current benefit package currently on the books and with the current policy is that the 399 00:35:32,900 --> 00:35:38,220 mayor's a full-time position in Councillors are part-time positions at greater than 20 hours per week, 400 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:44,000 as such that's how the benefit package rolls out. So the mayor's eligible for a full-time benefit package, 401 00:35:44,420 --> 00:35:52,120 and Council is eligible for the part-time benefit package. The only change that would be considered should 402 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:57,360 Council approved the policy is that the benefits are all the same as they currently are, except for 403 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,520 LTD will not be included in the benefit package, but nothing else changes. 404 00:36:04,430 --> 00:36:07,110 Great question hasn't been in the policy. 405 00:36:07,370 --> 00:36:09,430 LTD was part of the package. 406 00:36:09,710 --> 00:36:11,410 Yes it has. 407 00:36:12,050 --> 00:36:12,870 So things you don't know. 408 00:36:12,990 --> 00:36:14,710 So it's part of the package now. 409 00:36:16,030 --> 00:36:18,790 And the recommendation is to remove it from the package. 410 00:36:21,910 --> 00:36:25,230 And the reason is that we aren't full time. 411 00:36:25,730 --> 00:36:31,790 No, I would suggest the reason is that the reason would be is that you're not on going past four years. 412 00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:35,140 Potentially. 413 00:36:35,980 --> 00:36:36,000 No. 414 00:36:38,950 --> 00:36:40,990 Okay, as long as the reason is holds up. 415 00:36:41,730 --> 00:36:43,090 I'm just, just seems inconsistent. 416 00:36:43,410 --> 00:36:45,290 Like some of these bellies do it and some don't. 417 00:36:46,230 --> 00:36:46,810 Yeah, you're worship. 418 00:36:47,450 --> 00:36:52,530 When we did look at all the municipalities, there was very few who actually offered LTDS. 419 00:36:52,530 --> 00:36:54,910 It's one of their benefit options. 420 00:36:58,350 --> 00:36:58,810 Okay. 421 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:01,620 Okay. 422 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,400 That's good enough for me. 423 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,100 Come to fair. 424 00:37:09,180 --> 00:37:09,360 Yeah. 425 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,660 I have a question I've always been curious about but never asked and not as a perfect 426 00:37:12,660 --> 00:37:13,660 time for it. 427 00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:22,620 Around, since counselors are considered part-time over 20, part-time employees would probably 428 00:37:22,620 --> 00:37:26,980 be eligible for pension contributions and just curious have. 429 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,100 Around the rational. 430 00:37:34,950 --> 00:37:39,470 This would. You know, where should the municipal pension plan does not allow 431 00:37:39,470 --> 00:37:43,110 municipalities to offer pension to council members? 432 00:37:48,180 --> 00:37:53,260 And in the past for the future, no other pension 433 00:37:53,260 --> 00:37:55,540 plan plan type system is being proposed. 434 00:37:58,660 --> 00:37:59,640 Okay. Thank you. 435 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,120 The only question I have is, is related to 436 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:13,960 historically we established $2.44 per person has sort of the base that we worked 437 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:23,880 from and based on the population of 2021. So it's now 2026 and this will apply to 438 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:31,560 late 26 and early 27. Is there a reason for not having that 244 apply to our new 439 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:32,120 population? 440 00:38:35,660 --> 00:38:43,360 The sense? Yes. The numbers that we were looking at, we weren't just looking 441 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:53,280 at 2021 population. We were also looking at cost of living increase and other metrics that 442 00:38:58,510 --> 00:39:08,070 increase the mayor's salary. So we didn't think that the 2021 numbers were too far out of 443 00:39:08,070 --> 00:39:12,230 line with current numbers to make a significant difference. 444 00:39:13,310 --> 00:39:22,970 So if population went up by 2,500 over the last five years, we would see an essence in 445 00:39:22,970 --> 00:39:27,650 Vernon situation of five or six percent growth in total population. 446 00:39:28,170 --> 00:39:32,310 And your indication is that that's not significant then we didn't, we don't need to bake 447 00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:33,790 that into future salaries. 448 00:39:34,770 --> 00:39:43,450 That's something for the next remuneration committee to look at when that gets re-evaluated. 449 00:39:44,870 --> 00:39:49,930 Because we've had significant population growth between 2021 and today. 450 00:39:51,850 --> 00:39:57,590 Because CPI just means that you're getting paid the same thing that you've got paid in 2021, 451 00:39:57,590 --> 00:40:07,090 just that your state, even with cost of living, there's been no change, essence in, in the 452 00:40:07,090 --> 00:40:11,990 salary, there's been change in the amount, but in terms of purchasing power, it's flat. 453 00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:12,930 Which is good. 454 00:40:13,070 --> 00:40:14,590 That's good, I'm not complaining about that. 455 00:40:14,770 --> 00:40:20,550 I'm just saying that it had this extra element, which was that we should make it associated 456 00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:22,090 with size of the community. 457 00:40:22,090 --> 00:40:26,950 So, we decided to drop that. That's not appropriate at this time. 458 00:40:28,230 --> 00:40:36,790 We didn't think that the change was significant enough to this time around to adjust it for that. 459 00:40:37,050 --> 00:40:41,070 Or to anticipate what it would be the next time it's evaluated. 460 00:40:41,850 --> 00:40:44,670 Okay. Well, we'll watch that together. 461 00:40:46,710 --> 00:40:49,030 Let's see what it says. But we were projecting at the 462 00:40:49,030 --> 00:40:58,110 time, growth rates in the neighborhood of 2% annually. So substantial. I don't know what's 463 00:40:58,110 --> 00:41:03,650 actually happened over time. We had to leave that over to Mr. Nurelle. He might have a better idea 464 00:41:03,650 --> 00:41:13,310 what stats can is assuming our population is but what is it 44 up to 47 or 48 yeah so it's gone 465 00:41:13,310 --> 00:41:22,290 out almost 10 percent nine and a half for 10 percent in size in five years we weren't just looking 466 00:41:22,290 --> 00:41:31,630 at the 2021 population numbers okay all right no I'm just trying to make the logic work here because we've 467 00:41:31,630 --> 00:41:40,770 this, gone from 44, probably 47, or 48,000, so almost 9% growth in size. 468 00:41:41,530 --> 00:41:44,230 Okay, but I'm just trying to tie it together. 469 00:41:47,290 --> 00:41:47,590 Councillor Gill. 470 00:41:48,210 --> 00:41:50,330 I think there's just one other quick question, Rachel. 471 00:41:51,270 --> 00:42:00,750 On this statement, the percentage of merit salary boost is 3% from 37 to 40 that you're 472 00:42:00,750 --> 00:42:06,290 and it's a fair, a good-sized boost. 473 00:42:07,350 --> 00:42:10,890 Sorry, we weren't making a boost to the mayor's salary? 474 00:42:10,990 --> 00:42:15,910 No, no, no, but you're saying that the percentage of the mayor's salary that a 475 00:42:15,910 --> 00:42:20,850 counselor would be paid will change from 37% to 40%. 476 00:42:21,270 --> 00:42:21,910 Oh, correct. 477 00:42:22,310 --> 00:42:22,610 Yes. 478 00:42:26,510 --> 00:42:38,710 and when you looked at the comparables in terms of what that percentage should be, you concluded that 37 is a little low, so you wanted to put it up to 40, that's fine. 479 00:42:39,570 --> 00:42:50,430 But the comparables that you used, did you sort out in terms of those that pay meeting stipends separately versus those that don't? 480 00:42:51,910 --> 00:42:55,890 The comparables were looked at population size. 481 00:42:57,270 --> 00:43:03,490 So some of those that pay the average of which you said was 39%. 482 00:43:03,490 --> 00:43:08,870 So a whole bunch of those might pay meeting stipends and a whole bunch of them might not. 483 00:43:08,910 --> 00:43:09,890 You don't know. 484 00:43:11,250 --> 00:43:16,090 We were just looking at the base salary, as far as I remember. 485 00:43:17,250 --> 00:43:18,970 We were looking at a lot of different things. 486 00:43:18,970 --> 00:43:25,930 So before we're today right now we're we're counselors are paid 37% of what the mayor's paid plus there's these 487 00:43:25,930 --> 00:43:36,090 There's a meeting site bound of 137 dollars per meeting. Yes, one of the other reasons we decided to do away with that stipend was that no one was really collecting it 488 00:43:37,190 --> 00:43:39,670 so it was even though it was 489 00:43:39,670 --> 00:43:40,110 available 490 00:43:40,970 --> 00:43:43,070 most counselors were not 491 00:43:43,070 --> 00:43:47,010 utilizing it and so we found it to be both unnecessary and 492 00:43:47,010 --> 00:43:48,970 and irrelevant. 493 00:43:49,510 --> 00:43:53,170 So yeah, plus I assume that's a bit of administrative efficiency 494 00:43:53,170 --> 00:43:55,130 gain, too, without having another process. 495 00:43:55,330 --> 00:43:55,890 But anyway, 496 00:44:00,310 --> 00:44:05,620 so that's fine, I guess, on balance here, 497 00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:09,460 satisfied that 40% is the right number, 498 00:44:11,820 --> 00:44:13,460 with no side bend. 499 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,820 With no side bend on top of the 40. 500 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,000 Okay. 501 00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:24,150 Council, any other questions for the sense? 502 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,280 All right, much appreciate it, and I think so. 503 00:44:32,740 --> 00:44:36,060 I'll put it up with a few point of questions if we try to get clear on this. 504 00:44:36,300 --> 00:44:39,520 This is great. I'll call for a motion to receive. 505 00:44:40,620 --> 00:44:44,740 I have a Council adjourning, Councillor Fair, any last comments? 506 00:44:45,540 --> 00:44:47,680 Seeing none, call the question or a little some favor? 507 00:44:47,980 --> 00:44:50,940 Go suppose, motion is carried. Thank you very much. 508 00:44:51,140 --> 00:44:53,320 Thanks for your committee work, and thanks to your colleagues. 509 00:44:55,620 --> 00:44:57,120 We'll move forward now, I'll do it. 510 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:09,500 I'm your closure by law 68086 of 2026, so I'll open up public input for the road closure. 511 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,620 Ms Wood, has there been any written submissions? 512 00:45:14,260 --> 00:45:17,380 Your worship, there's been no written submissions received. 513 00:45:18,700 --> 00:45:23,140 Thank you. So I'll call for a first time for any presentations from the public. 514 00:45:28,060 --> 00:45:32,440 I will now call a second time for presentations from the public. 515 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:41,120 And I'll call for a third and final time for presentations on the public to the 43rd Avenue 516 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:45,200 closer by a six-year-old eight six. 517 00:45:51,030 --> 00:45:52,490 Public input is closed 518 00:45:53,470 --> 00:45:56,750 Council if you have any questions of staff 519 00:46:05,810 --> 00:46:06,190 in 520 00:46:06,190 --> 00:46:09,290 kind of emotion, please. Councillor Guy. Councillor Derny. 521 00:46:10,390 --> 00:46:11,510 Any last comments? 522 00:46:12,330 --> 00:46:17,010 Seeing none. Call the question. I'll was in favor of those post. Motion is carry. 523 00:46:17,930 --> 00:46:23,770 We'll move now to item six, counseling quarries, so there are any counseling quarries. 524 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,260 Seeing none, we'll move now to administration updates, 525 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,580 move them, counselor, one comes. 526 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:37,300 So, Gareth, 527 00:46:40,860 --> 00:46:42,720 any comments on the updates? 528 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:45,280 Counselor Guy? 529 00:46:47,450 --> 00:46:53,910 Yeah, thanks. Just one thought that occurred to me reading this report, mentioning the 530 00:46:53,910 --> 00:46:56,890 the World Park, Baudelante, closure. 531 00:46:59,570 --> 00:47:01,550 It's James there, yeah. 532 00:47:02,930 --> 00:47:12,650 I just thought this might be a good opportunity to add a muscle, a base of muscle, stencil, 533 00:47:12,770 --> 00:47:16,970 clean drain dry, muscle, stencil to the surface of the Baudelante. 534 00:47:17,110 --> 00:47:20,330 This is something that will be WB's been working on forever. 535 00:47:20,330 --> 00:47:33,390 They've arranged a really good price on a large stencil that would go on the on the on the boat launch, and it just requires the the launch to be closed for a day or two. 536 00:47:34,490 --> 00:47:42,490 And the best time to do it obviously is after the main voting season. So I'll help you in touch with Carmen at the OBWB on this. 537 00:47:45,850 --> 00:47:51,550 They're installing municipalities or installing the stencils on their main boat launches up and down the valley now. 538 00:47:51,850 --> 00:47:52,690 I'll talk to you later. 539 00:48:05,230 --> 00:48:05,490 All right. 540 00:48:05,750 --> 00:48:06,270 Call the question. 541 00:48:06,690 --> 00:48:07,250 All those in favor? 542 00:48:08,030 --> 00:48:10,030 Those post-motion is carried. 543 00:48:13,210 --> 00:48:13,390 All right. 544 00:48:13,470 --> 00:48:14,250 Move John finished. 545 00:48:14,350 --> 00:48:22,170 Business Council Compensation says that you commit draft report and policy recommendation. 546 00:48:22,910 --> 00:48:24,570 Could I have a motion please? 547 00:48:25,630 --> 00:48:30,830 Council, adjourning, Councilor Fair, any last comments from Council? 548 00:48:33,550 --> 00:48:38,050 Seeing none, call the questionals in favor, those opposed motion is carried. 549 00:48:39,190 --> 00:48:39,810 Thank you, committee. 550 00:48:40,070 --> 00:48:40,770 Much appreciated. 551 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:44,880 Just a closing comment. 552 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,120 I think you can follow up on Councilor Monday's comment. 553 00:48:47,180 --> 00:48:52,860 I think it is best that we continue with this process of putting it to the end of 554 00:48:52,860 --> 00:48:56,100 Council's term as opposed to bringing it forward to the fall in Council. 555 00:48:56,100 --> 00:48:58,220 I think that's been a great addition. 556 00:48:59,100 --> 00:49:03,540 I think it was Councilor Mund who started that process and when he was mayor, so I just want 557 00:49:03,540 --> 00:49:05,620 to recognize that the process was a good one. 558 00:49:06,020 --> 00:49:13,660 And then thanks to the committee members who do this quite willingly, obviously Mr. Benesheck 559 00:49:13,660 --> 00:49:18,760 has done it now, I think, three times, which is really good, and I appreciate that. 560 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:23,560 And I also appreciate the two others who have taken it on Deb Law, who was familiar with 561 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:28,900 seats here for many, many years. And welcome yourself, Rachel, much appreciate it. You 562 00:49:28,900 --> 00:49:34,040 would take some volunteer time and to address what your critical issue. Thank you very much. 563 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:42,300 All right, we'll move now to this declassified Asian motions. Do you want to read the 564 00:49:42,300 --> 00:49:47,680 motor? No. They're just in the agenda. We've got the business retention expansion, 565 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,920 to all in partnership for deconstrication. 566 00:49:52,100 --> 00:49:56,000 We've also at Fire Service pilot automation aid agreement 567 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,480 with the District Coal Stream. 568 00:49:58,180 --> 00:50:02,160 We also have the active living center commercial retail unit 569 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,860 leaks all three of those are declassified motions 570 00:50:05,860 --> 00:50:07,440 from in-camera meetings. 571 00:50:08,620 --> 00:50:11,280 We'll move now to item 10A, active living center 572 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:16,620 nearing project milestone, aquatic center commissioning. 573 00:50:20,870 --> 00:50:27,050 I think Mr. Ross who's attended many many times was probably not expecting we'd be here by now. 574 00:50:34,100 --> 00:50:36,680 Welcome, Mr. Ross. Perfect timing. 575 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:48,060 Much of your surprise. Your years and years of being near this, you must have got it. 576 00:50:48,380 --> 00:50:50,080 Untimely sense of time. 577 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,520 Just in the nick of time. 578 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,400 Thanks for making time for me this afternoon. 579 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:07,280 I've got a brief memo for you about an upcoming project milestone with the active living 580 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:07,860 center. 581 00:51:08,580 --> 00:51:12,860 There's some information in here that is about the filling with the pools and there's 582 00:51:12,860 --> 00:51:14,900 also some about water conservation. 583 00:51:15,720 --> 00:51:20,040 So if there's any more detailed questions you have about the water reclamation site or things 584 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:24,800 like that, I'll ask for James to step in and answer those, but I can provide you with update 585 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:25,920 on the ALC. 586 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:32,320 So, construction on the active living center is progressing towards its planned opening in later this year. 587 00:51:33,180 --> 00:51:37,560 The project is now entering the final stages of construction testing, commissioning, and inspections. 588 00:51:38,460 --> 00:51:45,780 The project is entering a major milestone as we get ready for the aquatic center to move into the commissioning and systems testing phase. 589 00:51:46,100 --> 00:51:54,360 This critical work will ensure that the aquatic mechanical filtration and air handling systems are operating as intended before the facility opens. 590 00:51:54,360 --> 00:52:02,640 The facility has to be brought up to its full operating temperature, so that we can test all of the air handling systems and things like that. 591 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:11,440 The city has work closely with the regional district, who is authorizes city to proceed with the filling of the ELC pools, as part of this next phase of the project. 592 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,540 And that work is scheduled to begin the week of the 14th. 593 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:20,780 And again, that is required to do all the testing for all the systems. 594 00:52:20,780 --> 00:52:23,480 and the water has to be in the pool, so it has to be brought up to temperature. 595 00:52:24,740 --> 00:52:27,100 This is timely because it actually aligns. 596 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:49,500 We understand for demand a free irrigation has decreased. The aquatic commissioning is on the project's critical path, so this is in addition to testing the aquatic mechanical system. The pools need to be filled and operational before they can be inspected by interior health who issues the operating permit. 597 00:52:50,860 --> 00:52:59,660 In the spring, the city developed a plan to reduce municipal water use during stage three restrictions and we're closely with the regional district to implement measures. 598 00:52:59,660 --> 00:53:01,400 across its operations. 599 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:07,220 The city reduced overall municipal water use by 60% saving approximately 55 600 00:53:07,220 --> 00:53:11,200 megaleters of water, and which exceeded the city's conservation targets. 601 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:16,760 In addition, the city continued to expand the use of reclaimed water to support agricultural 602 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:17,460 users. 603 00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:22,200 The city partnered with the Regional District to temporarily connect Vernon's reclaimed water 604 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:26,120 system to the RDNO non-potable irrigation network. 605 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:38,220 That initiative expanded access to reclaim water for approximately 100 agricultural customers, providing additional sources of irrigation supply during the ongoing drought conditions. 606 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:46,080 The ALC requires approximately 3.8 megaleters of water to fill its aquatic facilities. 607 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:54,180 In August alone, the city supplied 77 megaleters of reclaim water to supplement Ardenino's non-potable irrigation system. 608 00:53:54,180 --> 00:53:59,900 So that's equivalent to 20 times the volume that's required to fill the ALC. 609 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,380 Use the reclaimed water help reduce demand on potable water supplies. 610 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:12,680 The city has considered alternatives, including transporting water in the Vernon by truck and from another water system, 611 00:54:12,980 --> 00:54:16,520 as well as trying to reuse water from late view and laving to outdoor pools. 612 00:54:17,180 --> 00:54:21,360 Both of those options would have added significant costs to the project. 613 00:54:22,020 --> 00:54:26,420 Using water from the outdoor pool is also not recommended because it's previously been 614 00:54:26,420 --> 00:54:30,740 treated and it could potentially have a debris in it from outdoor use. 615 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:36,740 Delaying the aquatic commissioning would have financial implications of approximately $100,000 616 00:54:36,740 --> 00:54:37,660 per week. 617 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:44,760 The dry side of the ALC could potentially operate, but that would not avoid the costs associated 618 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:49,860 with delaying completion and commissioning of the QWATA components. 619 00:54:51,820 --> 00:54:56,060 So the project team and the communications department will continue to provide project updates 620 00:54:56,060 --> 00:55:00,040 as the LC moves into the next phase of work and prepares for facility opening. 621 00:55:01,180 --> 00:55:08,060 And I'll be back and provide a more detailed report to Council on September 28th when 622 00:55:08,060 --> 00:55:10,420 the facility will almost be ready to be open. 623 00:55:12,710 --> 00:55:16,270 If you have any questions and I'm happy to answer them and again if there's something technical 624 00:55:16,270 --> 00:55:20,210 about the recline border last James, the step in and answer those. 625 00:55:22,470 --> 00:55:23,370 Thank you, Mr. Ross. 626 00:55:24,810 --> 00:55:25,110 Council. 627 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:29,600 Councilor Guy. 628 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,660 Thanks, Doug, and I like the argument that you've made. 629 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:38,360 It could be a decent rationale for giving us a bit of room to fill the pool with fresh 630 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:38,720 water. 631 00:55:39,300 --> 00:55:40,800 And actually, it's even more than 20 times. 632 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:45,500 You mentioned 20 times the 77 that we saved with irrigation. 633 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:51,080 But then there's the 55 that we saved ourselves, you know, 130 or so total we saved 634 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:55,760 right, or more or so, so that's more like 30 times or more than 30 times to put the pool of 635 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,080 volume. So yeah, good rationale, good report. 636 00:56:01,820 --> 00:56:03,520 Councillor, any other comments? 637 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:13,760 Councillor Monk, Councillor Harris, all in favor? Motion is carried. 638 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:19,420 Thank you, Mr. Ross, for the forward to the 28th and the clink of someone handing over 639 00:56:19,420 --> 00:56:19,980 keys. 640 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:21,800 Thank you very much. 641 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:22,800 Thank you. 642 00:56:25,590 --> 00:56:26,670 All right, move now. 643 00:56:26,670 --> 00:56:36,690 I intend to be the Kelli Malcolm Lake Road 14,000 year highway six multi-use path to the East Hill amendment, could I have a motion please? 644 00:56:36,970 --> 00:56:49,270 Councilor Guy, Councilor Gurney, welcome Mr. Hanyeak to our new facing south facing gallery and presentation. 645 00:56:49,270 --> 00:56:51,050 It's right. 646 00:56:53,140 --> 00:56:54,720 Any questions, service to Daniac? 647 00:56:58,380 --> 00:56:58,400 Council. 648 00:56:59,940 --> 00:57:00,600 Thank you. 649 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,240 Just one question. 650 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:04,360 Maybe two. 651 00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,240 Looking at the multi-use path. 652 00:57:11,530 --> 00:57:13,510 Just in that now. 653 00:57:14,050 --> 00:57:15,350 Or maybe it's just a sidewalk. 654 00:57:15,750 --> 00:57:17,110 I guess it's a sidewalk. 655 00:57:18,750 --> 00:57:20,670 Along the northwest side. 656 00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:21,630 On the diagram. 657 00:57:22,190 --> 00:57:24,170 The northwest side of Highway 6, going from 658 00:57:24,170 --> 00:57:29,960 rotary road down the hill to the gym. You want to put it up there, Mark? 659 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:37,800 Yeah, it's that 660 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:48,290 you'll, you'll colored piece on the north side, north west side of the highway 661 00:57:48,290 --> 00:57:51,350 running from part of the road down to the gym. 662 00:57:53,450 --> 00:57:55,710 So it looks to me on the diagram that 663 00:57:55,710 --> 00:58:04,450 it stops before the, before the gym, on the uphill side of the gym. And so what I'm 664 00:58:04,450 --> 00:58:10,810 wondering is why would we not extend that at least down to that driveway at the gym? 665 00:58:11,970 --> 00:58:18,290 And maybe even beyond the gym all the way down to the existing intersection of Cal Lake 666 00:58:18,290 --> 00:58:22,570 Road and the highway to meet up with the new sidewalk that we're going to build along 667 00:58:22,570 --> 00:58:25,110 the East Side of Cal Lake Road right there at that intersection. 668 00:58:27,690 --> 00:58:28,510 Mr. Dehyme? 669 00:58:29,030 --> 00:58:33,850 He worshiped by apologizing we did not show that there was an existing sidewalk in that 670 00:58:33,850 --> 00:58:37,910 So there already is a sidewalk for that entire stretch. 671 00:58:38,510 --> 00:58:40,710 So we highlighted some of the existing sidewalks. 672 00:58:41,030 --> 00:58:43,050 So I apologize for not highlighting that. 673 00:58:43,050 --> 00:58:43,930 That one piece as well. 674 00:58:44,630 --> 00:58:46,730 But there is a sidewalk there. 675 00:58:48,550 --> 00:58:48,970 Yeah. 676 00:58:51,860 --> 00:58:52,660 Oh, sorry. 677 00:58:52,900 --> 00:58:53,000 Councillor. 678 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:54,540 Go ahead. 679 00:58:54,740 --> 00:58:54,860 Yeah. 680 00:58:54,860 --> 00:58:57,400 In that case, it's even a smaller job than I thought. 681 00:58:58,020 --> 00:59:00,740 To extend that a few meters to the driveway. 682 00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,200 Or even all the way to the intersection. 683 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,640 pass the driveway all the way to the intersection. 684 00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:09,180 Mr. Dye? 685 00:59:09,700 --> 00:59:13,820 Your worship, our intention is to connect to the network completely in that location. 686 00:59:14,620 --> 00:59:16,920 So, the budget that's presented will connect the network. 687 00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:24,740 So, even though it doesn't show in the diagram, you're going to extend that sidewalk all the way along to the junction of Highway 6 and Cal Lake Road. 688 00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,540 I can't speak for certain, but I'm pretty certain. 689 00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,300 there's a side hook in that location. 690 00:59:34,260 --> 00:59:36,240 Okay, yeah, but not all the way down. 691 00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,360 And I don't have it completely memorized. 692 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,140 Each piece of the sidewalk in that network, 693 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:47,300 but our project team is planning to connect the entire sidewalk network 694 00:59:47,300 --> 00:59:49,180 and the multi-snetwork through this project. 695 00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,400 Okay, well that little piece is quite important. 696 00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:56,320 It's a well-known danger zone for people who get to the end of the sidewalk. 697 00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:57,100 And then we... 698 01:00:01,330 --> 01:00:04,070 Especially kids, kids on bikes. 699 01:00:06,130 --> 01:00:06,130 Okay. 700 01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:13,020 Okay. 701 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,820 I don't see any other comments or questions on this one. 702 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:32,320 Sometimes, she is tapped to y'all hooray. This is a project that's obviously been on our to do this for quite a while. 703 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,380 Personally, there's one extra element here. 704 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,180 I'm really pleased to see the 14th Avenue, 705 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:45,820 no post-periars being shifted from the north side to the south side. 706 01:00:46,460 --> 01:00:50,560 So I think that that in itself will lower my heart rate. 707 01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:52,660 So I appreciate that. 708 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:57,920 That one was one that always for me generated significant anxiety. 709 01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:02,380 When I would watch people crossing 14th Avenue there, 710 01:01:02,780 --> 01:01:05,960 take it to the other side, to ride behind the barriers, 711 01:01:06,020 --> 01:01:14,940 to then cross again, and at the west side of Calth Tiger Head Office, 712 01:01:15,220 --> 01:01:17,980 it was always sort of interesting to watch the antics. 713 01:01:18,300 --> 01:01:20,720 So thank you, excuse me, and those in the transportation 714 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,420 department for recognizing that. 715 01:01:27,820 --> 01:01:33,440 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I actually just wanted to recognize that there is one really big 716 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:40,080 hooray on this one and that's the signal, the new intersection. So if anyone drives past that 717 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:45,700 intersection, like I do on a daily basis, especially today with school being back in, the turn 718 01:01:45,700 --> 01:01:51,420 lane was incredible. For people trying to turn on to pottery road, because of course I can't get to 719 01:01:51,420 --> 01:01:53,160 15th Street intersection. 720 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:57,180 So out of all of this, the public who was saying, 721 01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:58,520 what is the city doing? 722 01:01:58,780 --> 01:01:59,820 Well, this is what we're doing. 723 01:02:00,100 --> 01:02:00,980 We're putting in a signal. 724 01:02:01,460 --> 01:02:02,980 So, right at the team on this one. 725 01:02:10,990 --> 01:02:14,570 I just need to go back to that late blue line indication 726 01:02:14,570 --> 01:02:16,010 that there is a sidewalk. 727 01:02:17,510 --> 01:02:20,270 My, when I go up one to essentials right now, 728 01:02:20,370 --> 01:02:25,150 there is no sidewalk between pottery, road, and the gym. 729 01:02:25,470 --> 01:02:26,230 Turn it. 730 01:02:26,570 --> 01:02:27,190 Is that correct? 731 01:02:29,030 --> 01:02:38,370 There is from going, if you leave the gym, there is a sidewalk from there to the intersection 732 01:02:38,370 --> 01:02:42,310 at the end, but the light blue section is missing. 733 01:02:42,470 --> 01:02:45,110 There is no sidewalk there today. 734 01:02:46,130 --> 01:02:46,830 Mr. Abbott. 735 01:02:47,330 --> 01:02:47,830 Mr. Abbott. 736 01:02:47,830 --> 01:02:47,950 Mr. Abbott. 737 01:02:49,290 --> 01:02:49,310 Mr. Abbott. 738 01:02:49,570 --> 01:02:50,790 Mr. Abbott. 739 01:02:52,250 --> 01:02:53,290 Mr. Abbott. 740 01:02:53,450 --> 01:02:55,710 Mr. Abbott. 741 01:02:55,710 --> 01:02:57,910 along the front edge of the gym. 742 01:02:58,530 --> 01:02:58,770 Yep. 743 01:02:58,990 --> 01:03:01,630 So we do intend to build that piece of sidewalk. 744 01:03:02,510 --> 01:03:05,250 And the way that we're doing it in this project 745 01:03:05,930 --> 01:03:09,210 is quite a bit more economical than what we had planned 746 01:03:09,210 --> 01:03:11,490 originally, building a wide multi-spath. 747 01:03:12,010 --> 01:03:14,850 The intersection kind of gets rid of the need 748 01:03:14,850 --> 01:03:17,030 for that multi-spath on the highway. 749 01:03:17,250 --> 01:03:19,970 But we intend to connect the sidewalk fully 750 01:03:19,970 --> 01:03:24,210 to pottery road and up to the existing sidewalk 751 01:03:24,210 --> 01:03:25,970 on the front to the gym there. 752 01:03:26,250 --> 01:03:27,630 Sorry, I was in clear there. 753 01:03:27,810 --> 01:03:28,130 I apologize. 754 01:03:28,830 --> 01:03:29,090 Super. 755 01:03:29,410 --> 01:03:29,910 Thank you. 756 01:03:30,070 --> 01:03:30,710 I just, yeah. 757 01:03:31,130 --> 01:03:36,890 I just was trying to, we were trying to clarify here up in the table and I wasn't getting 758 01:03:36,890 --> 01:03:38,790 it all off my, so to speak. 759 01:03:39,330 --> 01:03:39,530 Good. 760 01:03:39,970 --> 01:03:41,510 Thank you. 761 01:03:42,030 --> 01:03:46,370 And I'm, thank you very much for your application to the grant funding. 762 01:03:47,630 --> 01:03:53,290 It's, it's quite amazing when you get this amount of money for a project like this. 763 01:03:53,290 --> 01:03:56,770 much appreciated. Thanks for your work, and thanks for your work, I'm 764 01:03:56,770 --> 01:04:01,290 assured, on making sure that this actually came up. 765 01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:06,660 Council, I'll call the question. 766 01:04:06,980 --> 01:04:07,340 All in favor. 767 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,740 Those of all of us seeing none, motion is carried. 768 01:04:11,700 --> 01:04:14,380 Quick question, is this now become a 27 project? 769 01:04:16,900 --> 01:04:20,880 Your research. So the way the motion's written is, it's a men of the 770 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:26,900 2020 six project with approval to spend the grant funding and then they 771 01:04:26,900 --> 01:04:33,000 of some of their funding that came back into our reserve accounts from the year-end process. 772 01:04:33,780 --> 01:04:36,720 So you'll have design in 26 and construction in 27? 773 01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:42,380 That's correct. We intend to go for competitive bits and the next couple of weeks. 774 01:04:42,740 --> 01:04:44,000 Super. Thank you very much. 775 01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:44,280 Okay. 776 01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:50,320 Yeah. Great project. 777 01:05:01,330 --> 01:05:05,230 All right. Next was the Crown Lease. Yes. 778 01:05:05,230 --> 01:05:08,050 move it second. Yep. We're going to respond. 779 01:05:11,020 --> 01:05:13,340 Any questions from Miss Nire? 780 01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:17,100 Seeing none, I'll 781 01:05:17,100 --> 01:05:21,440 call the question, I was a favorite. Those are both motion carried. Much of many of us 782 01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:26,260 put a lot effort into the roses pond one and it's great to see this working together so easily. 783 01:05:27,860 --> 01:05:32,400 Next item, Ken Beach, the old community strong fund grant application. 784 01:05:35,890 --> 01:05:37,390 Can I have a motion please? 785 01:05:37,390 --> 01:05:37,750 Yep. 786 01:05:38,490 --> 01:05:42,490 We've got councillor turning, councillor guy, welcome to space. 787 01:05:46,310 --> 01:05:51,650 Do we have any questions from this space regarding, uh, can be, 788 01:06:04,460 --> 01:06:05,840 can we put the concept 789 01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,380 up for those who are watching online? 790 01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:38,860 The only thing I was surprised about is, is the comment that the playground is aging out, 791 01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,620 because the equipment seems to be in very good shape. 792 01:06:42,460 --> 01:06:45,440 We don't have chip paint, we don't have, like it's, um, surprised. 793 01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:53,640 But what do we use it somewhere else like what will happen to the equipment from, it can be just as it's now. 794 01:06:54,740 --> 01:06:55,280 Mr. Rice? 795 01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:57,920 Oh, this is the market. 796 01:07:01,300 --> 01:07:02,120 Mr. Rice. 797 01:07:02,460 --> 01:07:03,020 Thank you, Yourorship. 798 01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:09,620 We do have a professional risk and site inspector that does regular inspections on all of our playgrounds. 799 01:07:09,660 --> 01:07:16,580 Even though the can beach playground from a distance looks like it's in good shape but actually has reached the end of its useful life. 800 01:07:16,580 --> 01:07:20,700 So there's very little there that would be salvaged or any other use. 801 01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:23,740 All right, thank you. 802 01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,100 And I've looked at it much closer than... 803 01:07:45,860 --> 01:07:55,380 I'm just wondering if there's a lot of hustle it seems every season for the vendor spots down there, being so far away from service seemingly. 804 01:07:56,020 --> 01:08:01,040 I'm just wondering what that will look like, how many vendors, if there's kind of an idea 805 01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:05,280 of what it would look like, we're all done for the potential vendor help. 806 01:08:06,860 --> 01:08:07,260 Is that right? 807 01:08:07,900 --> 01:08:13,040 So right now we have the two vendor locations pulled into the park adjacent to the playground 808 01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:13,500 there. 809 01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:19,960 And so we are looking at having two mobile vendor opportunities there as well. 810 01:08:20,660 --> 01:08:25,880 And then there's still some areas closer to the beach to explore other waterfront vendor. 811 01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:33,080 opportunities there as well, so a blend of food opportunities as well as whether that be water 812 01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:34,160 rentals. 813 01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:40,680 I'm happy to hear that we're open to that because I've heard some things over the past 814 01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:46,720 years and I think staff have handled what's gone on down there well, so given that's a little 815 01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:53,200 more open opportunity to be able to accept vendors and small businesses, only else is kind 816 01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:53,860 of a great thing. 817 01:08:53,860 --> 01:08:55,040 So thank you. 818 01:09:00,580 --> 01:09:01,740 Council on the other questions. 819 01:09:03,060 --> 01:09:05,760 Seeing none, I'll call the question of those in favor. 820 01:09:06,260 --> 01:09:07,480 Those opposed motion, Gary. 821 01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:08,460 Thank you very much. 822 01:09:16,340 --> 01:09:19,520 We'll move now to the procurement policy update. 823 01:09:30,460 --> 01:09:31,520 Have a motion, please. 824 01:09:31,900 --> 01:09:33,200 Council, Gary, Councilor Munt. 825 01:09:34,140 --> 01:09:35,800 Any questions for Ms. Marshall? 826 01:09:39,660 --> 01:09:41,820 Seeing none, I'll call the question of those in favor. 827 01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:43,700 Those opposed motion, Gary. 828 01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:45,280 Thank you for all these updates. 829 01:09:45,480 --> 01:09:46,740 These are a piece of this is important. 830 01:09:46,900 --> 01:09:47,300 Thank you. 831 01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:48,340 Yes, thank you. 832 01:09:48,580 --> 01:09:48,980 Your message. 833 01:09:50,300 --> 01:09:55,280 Next, one of why if you're planning committee finance committee terms of reference amendments 834 01:09:55,280 --> 01:10:02,120 and meeting schedule, we're going to deal with the APC first, can I have a motion please? 835 01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:03,720 Councillor Guy, Councillor Durning, 836 01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:13,380 any questions for Ms. Wood or Ms. Isles? Seeing none 837 01:10:13,380 --> 01:10:18,500 call the question, what was in favour? Those opposed motion is carried. And now we'll do 838 01:10:18,500 --> 01:10:23,200 the Finance Committee in terms of reference, and he from those mentioning on the Finance 839 01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:32,300 Committee. Councillor Guy, Councillor Earning. Any questions for Ms. Wood? All in favor? 840 01:10:33,300 --> 01:10:38,960 Those opposing, none motion is carried. We'll move now to a fees and charge of direct 841 01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:45,620 Mark services by last six, zero of six, two amendments to fees and charges of by law 842 01:10:45,620 --> 01:10:47,120 of three, nine, nine. 843 01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:49,420 Welcome, Ms. Walker. 844 01:10:50,900 --> 01:10:52,080 Council, any questions? 845 01:10:55,220 --> 01:10:57,220 Seeing none, I'll call for a motion. 846 01:10:58,640 --> 01:10:59,960 Councilor Guy, Councilor Fair, 847 01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:04,240 any questions from Ms. Walker? 848 01:11:05,480 --> 01:11:07,000 Seeing none, all those in favor? 849 01:11:09,700 --> 01:11:11,760 Councilor Guy, you have a question before me. 850 01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:12,500 Councillor. 851 01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:13,860 Councillor. 852 01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:16,600 I missed your light. 853 01:11:19,450 --> 01:11:19,470 Yeah. 854 01:11:19,690 --> 01:11:21,530 Firstly, good work. 855 01:11:23,940 --> 01:11:27,760 I'm impressed with the effort and the thought that's going into this and I really 856 01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,060 like the adjustments. 857 01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:37,960 I know we passed a motion in June, I think, to on the fee and structures, but there's 858 01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:39,620 other things in there now too. 859 01:11:39,620 --> 01:12:04,920 And there's several new concepts here that sort of at another level of granularity that I really like and as for example these promotional pieces that I think are going to be great right out of the gate and I read through it on the weekend and I originally had lots of questions but it managed to answer most of them myself. 860 01:12:05,480 --> 01:12:19,060 But I do have a couple that are three or four maybe that remain, so if you don't mind can just flip through my hard copy and ask you the odd question. 861 01:12:23,750 --> 01:12:26,370 The, firstly, just for clarification, 862 01:12:29,190 --> 01:12:47,790 the, the, the, the, we, we, we originally, we're going to do a 4% facility fee enhancement or facility enhancement fee for non residents and, and you're recommending we change it to just to clarify that's starting in 2027 or only for 2027. 863 01:12:50,110 --> 01:12:55,390 And the reason I ask that is because looking at all the various tables, there is some inconsistency. 864 01:12:55,590 --> 01:13:02,570 Sometimes the fee is removed in the 2027 column in the 28 column and sometimes there is still one. 865 01:13:02,570 --> 01:13:07,170 There is still a 4% facility fee in some of those columns for some of those categories. 866 01:13:07,170 --> 01:13:08,730 Thank you. 867 01:13:08,730 --> 01:13:09,210 Speaker. 868 01:13:09,810 --> 01:13:10,530 Your workshop. 869 01:13:10,790 --> 01:13:14,810 So the intention is to remove it as of 242027 onwards. 870 01:13:16,410 --> 01:13:19,610 So we will before the finalized cocky comes. 871 01:13:19,730 --> 01:13:22,730 We'll go through it a bit more to make sure it is all removed for 2027 onwards. 872 01:13:23,590 --> 01:13:29,910 It's not being removed until 2027 because we have some groups that have already paid for this year and have already signed contracts. 873 01:13:30,730 --> 01:13:32,410 So we're working on it for 2027. 874 01:13:32,410 --> 01:13:32,790 words. 875 01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:46,860 Okay, thanks. That's a good idea, good answer. On the, your idea to add a rental fee 876 01:13:46,860 --> 01:13:50,380 for the Concourse in Calgary, place south. 877 01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:56,540 Is this a common thing to do? Do other communities 878 01:13:56,540 --> 01:13:59,900 do this in their arenas? 879 01:14:00,860 --> 01:14:01,200 Marker? 880 01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:02,220 So, yours. 881 01:14:04,100 --> 01:14:06,400 It's common for the whole facility to have a fee. 882 01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,960 So, right now, our facility fee is only an arena rental fee. 883 01:14:09,980 --> 01:14:11,720 It doesn't really encompass the whole facility. 884 01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:16,100 And, because CalSire plays south, differs in CalSire plays north. 885 01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:20,500 And, there is differing requirements that facility for rentals. 886 01:14:20,740 --> 01:14:24,400 We're adding it in for people that want exclusive use that are then closing it to other 887 01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:30,740 users like the walkers. So if someone cannot use the concourse, how it would normally be 888 01:14:30,740 --> 01:14:35,520 used during an ice rental, they would then be required to use the concourse as well. 889 01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:39,620 Right, and other communities do this, and our pricing would be consistent with what other communities 890 01:14:39,620 --> 01:14:47,900 charge. Yeah, so other communities do use a whole facility fee. For the cost, it is in line with 891 01:14:47,900 --> 01:14:55,500 subsidy recovery of 65 percent. Okay. I had a question about the 892 01:15:02,300 --> 01:15:12,280 I did not see any rationale. You have said that it would be $50 an hour for custom branded displays 893 01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:16,700 in a $100 an hour where they feature third party advertising. 894 01:15:19,220 --> 01:15:20,460 What is it? What are those numbers 895 01:15:20,460 --> 01:15:24,540 come from? What is the rationale for picking those particular numbers? 896 01:15:28,220 --> 01:15:29,260 You're welcome. 897 01:15:31,340 --> 01:15:34,660 It's to ensure that we can retain some advertising up there. 898 01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:39,300 Currently, anyone that wants to use that for they can use a city branded 899 01:15:39,300 --> 01:15:43,320 scoreboard and all of our city advertising at no cost to their rental. 900 01:15:43,380 --> 01:15:47,060 If they want to brand it so that it takes away from some of our advertising, 901 01:15:47,660 --> 01:15:50,220 there's a minimum cost of $50 an hour. 902 01:15:50,220 --> 01:15:55,460 And then if they're selling advertising on top of that, it does double their cost of rental 903 01:15:55,460 --> 01:16:00,940 as that's consistent with our commercial rates and our, because at that point it becomes a commercial cost 904 01:16:00,940 --> 01:16:04,780 if they're selling advertising to, for the scoreboard. 905 01:16:05,700 --> 01:16:16,540 Okay, on the list of community organizations and recreation, it's on page 9 of the package of the memo. 906 01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:20,820 There's a whole long list of different sports groups there. 907 01:16:22,660 --> 01:16:27,160 It's not a complete list of all the sporting organizations in town though. 908 01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:39,320 For example, there's right there's rugby, people play rugby and town and they travel around the different places. 909 01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:42,420 I don't know if they have an organization or not, maybe they don't. 910 01:16:42,420 --> 01:16:46,760 and the same with Cricut. I see we're going to charge a new fee for using the Cricut pitch, 911 01:16:47,420 --> 01:16:54,500 but they're part of a leading as well. So would they just apply to become listed on your list? 912 01:16:56,060 --> 01:16:59,420 Like, this is a big advantage to being on the list, obviously. 913 01:17:00,020 --> 01:17:05,140 Yes, yours. So that used to be called our minor sports organization. We have changed the title to 914 01:17:05,140 --> 01:17:11,840 be kind of more in line with being a partnership between us and these organizations. So one of the 915 01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:18,760 factors for becoming that organization and being part of that list is being part of either 916 01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:25,120 a provincial sport organization or a national sport organization and any group that has 917 01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:30,940 as part of that is welcome to apply and have a process in place. Those organizations that 918 01:17:30,940 --> 01:17:36,620 you mentioned have not approached us to apply at this time and the only new organizations on 919 01:17:36,620 --> 01:17:41,280 at least are sky volleyball, as well as open up an Indian band. 920 01:17:41,500 --> 01:17:42,680 The other ones were all there. 921 01:17:42,820 --> 01:17:45,080 Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 922 01:17:45,780 --> 01:17:51,760 OK, on the Vernon Resident Program on page 12, 923 01:17:53,180 --> 01:17:57,540 the tables, table one, table two, eight, table two, 924 01:17:57,540 --> 01:18:00,980 be in the title of those tables. 925 01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:08,320 It says single-use, single-use rates. They're single, 926 01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:15,740 single, the title is single-visit. But then there's, I just want to be clear on the terminology. 927 01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:23,500 We used to call that drop-in, but the word drop-in is gone now. So it's single-visit, and it applies 928 01:18:23,500 --> 01:18:32,000 to the, not only the single use, the single day use, but the tenth pass and the monthly and 929 01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:37,060 the annual memberships, just to be clear that those, those are still referred to as single 930 01:18:37,060 --> 01:18:37,420 visits. 931 01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:44,720 Am I right here on the understanding of terminology, like a, as opposed to a program where you 932 01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:48,440 go every Thursday or something like that, is that, is that what single visits means? 933 01:18:50,880 --> 01:19:01,160 Yes, that is the intent, because we also offer drop-in sports and drop-in programs, we wanted to differentiate between what's a drop-in facility use versus a drop-in program use. 934 01:19:01,860 --> 01:19:03,680 So we went to single business. 935 01:19:04,420 --> 01:19:05,020 Okay. 936 01:19:07,660 --> 01:19:18,880 On under fee regulations, 0.7 refers to events that require a special event permit and a $100 application fee. 937 01:19:20,100 --> 01:19:25,860 before the permit is reviewed and then it says if the event goes forward, it's going to be applied to the deposit. 938 01:19:26,900 --> 01:19:28,520 What if it doesn't go forward? 939 01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:33,880 There's nothing that says what happens to that $100 if it doesn't go forward, if the event doesn't go forward. 940 01:19:35,060 --> 01:19:35,480 It's Walker. 941 01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:36,500 Who worship? 942 01:19:37,480 --> 01:19:43,160 So the intent is that if it doesn't go forward, then that would the application fee is not returned. 943 01:19:44,460 --> 01:19:50,320 a lot of staff time goes into those event applications and we want to make sure that when 944 01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:55,560 people are applying, they understand what they're applying for and we can help them through 945 01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:56,540 that process. 946 01:19:57,380 --> 01:20:01,900 Okay, thanks be a one last quick super quick thing on page 45 that's table 22. 947 01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:04,640 Under community 948 01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:10,840 use, this is for the ALC, this is for track rental. The three categories are adult youth 949 01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:14,940 than mine, but we don't use the term minor anywhere else. 950 01:20:15,020 --> 01:20:16,940 It's called preschool in the definitions. 951 01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:21,480 This walker. 952 01:20:21,820 --> 01:20:22,660 Good catch. 953 01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:24,720 We will update that to say core. 954 01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:25,580 So that is minor. 955 01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:26,700 You should be our core group. 956 01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:28,520 So we will update that to say core. 957 01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:29,380 Thank you. 958 01:20:29,500 --> 01:20:30,360 Thanks for catching that. 959 01:20:32,980 --> 01:20:33,400 Thank you. 960 01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:33,780 Thanks for coming. 961 01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:35,920 Thank you. 962 01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:42,900 Thanks for coming. 963 01:20:42,900 --> 01:20:52,220 to verify with Ms. Walker, all 4% facility enhancements fee should be removed from 2027 and 2028, is that correct? 964 01:20:53,700 --> 01:20:54,140 Yes, that's correct. 965 01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:59,480 So on the new fee, though, for 2026 the ALC, the 4% doesn't apply. 966 01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:03,560 It's only on current fees for the rest of the year. 967 01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:06,480 For 2027 and 2028. 968 01:21:07,020 --> 01:21:11,160 2026 is only on current fees, so the ALC, we'll see that 4%. 969 01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:15,520 everything else as of January 1st, 27, maybe 2%. 970 01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:20,640 Thank you. So if it's okay with Councillor Gain, Councillor Fair, who made 971 01:21:23,480 --> 01:21:31,740 move the motion. If we could do third as amended to remove all 4% 972 01:21:31,740 --> 01:21:39,040 facility fees from 2027 and 2028 and to update minor to pre-school throughout the 973 01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:44,880 documentation document, then we will be able to give it third reading. 974 01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:47,660 It's an update manager to court. 975 01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:48,480 To court. 976 01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:49,260 Got it. 977 01:21:49,580 --> 01:21:51,200 Thank you. 978 01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:55,320 That allows us to approve it because there's some minor adjustments to me. 979 01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:56,860 It's okay. 980 01:21:57,920 --> 01:21:58,260 Move on. 981 01:21:58,340 --> 01:21:58,620 Secondary. 982 01:21:58,820 --> 01:21:59,300 Fine. 983 01:22:00,480 --> 01:22:00,520 Okay. 984 01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:01,080 We've got a minor. 985 01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:04,880 You want to make a motion on the amendment, and then the motion will just take the 986 01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:05,240 motion. 987 01:22:07,020 --> 01:22:07,260 Okay. 988 01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:14,760 We have to be okay. We're good. All right. Allow me then to call the question, 989 01:22:14,940 --> 01:22:21,660 I'll also in favor. Those are both. Motion carried. That says perimended. Thank you. 990 01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:24,540 Thank you, Ms. Walker. And thanks for dealing with the right 991 01:22:24,540 --> 01:22:27,120 to tell it on the details. This has been. 992 01:22:31,660 --> 01:22:37,300 I appreciate your comprehension of the details, I appreciate it. 993 01:22:37,420 --> 01:22:40,220 Oh, we said too much of your life on these peace and judges. 994 01:22:40,980 --> 01:22:42,500 Thank you so much. 995 01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:54,780 All right, next item is the zoning text amendment for CMUN zone, amended by law 6091. 996 01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:57,380 Secondary Council, a month, 997 01:22:59,670 --> 01:23:01,110 any questions from Ms. Campbell? 998 01:23:03,010 --> 01:23:06,650 Now, if you got one, thanks, Mr. Merchist. I just want to think to clarify my understanding 999 01:23:06,650 --> 01:23:14,310 of the memo. I'm finding the changing the bylaws recommended, but just to clarify, because 1000 01:23:14,310 --> 01:23:19,490 of the provincial moratorium that exists for the next six years or whatever, it's a 232. 1001 01:23:20,250 --> 01:23:24,150 None of them are going to be added. No liquor stores will be added to that zone. 1002 01:23:24,150 --> 01:23:26,290 in the next six or seven years. 1003 01:23:26,490 --> 01:23:30,310 Correct. You would have to relocate an existing approved license within BC. 1004 01:23:30,910 --> 01:23:33,270 Okay, okay, but it just allows us to do that. 1005 01:23:33,970 --> 01:23:34,930 Okay. Okay. 1006 01:23:35,390 --> 01:23:37,510 It allows us to do that into that zone. 1007 01:23:37,750 --> 01:23:39,590 Yeah. You can all see other zones. 1008 01:23:39,890 --> 01:23:41,590 But you can bring one from somewhere else. 1009 01:23:42,730 --> 01:23:43,370 These are the ones. 1010 01:23:46,420 --> 01:23:50,020 Ms. Campbell put up with a lot of my new sense questions at APC. 1011 01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:51,320 So I appreciate that. 1012 01:23:51,620 --> 01:23:54,640 We had a very deep dive into this during APC. 1013 01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:58,960 Council, I call the question, I was in favor. 1014 01:23:59,500 --> 01:24:00,620 Those opposed motion carry. 1015 01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:01,700 Thank you, Ms. Campbell. 1016 01:24:04,380 --> 01:24:08,900 Next item, for Mr. Tax by law number 6089, 1017 01:24:09,020 --> 01:24:10,020 could I have a motion please? 1018 01:24:10,300 --> 01:24:11,100 Councilor Mund, 1019 01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:15,000 Councilor Jerry? 1020 01:24:16,180 --> 01:24:16,660 Thank you. 1021 01:24:16,780 --> 01:24:18,000 Sorry, there's only looking one way 1022 01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,720 once I wouldn't pass, can you hear it? 1023 01:24:24,460 --> 01:24:26,200 Any questions from Ms. Crossen? 1024 01:24:28,480 --> 01:24:30,520 Seeing none, I call the question, I was in favor. 1025 01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:32,960 I was opposed, motion is carried. 1026 01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:34,120 Thank you, Ms. Crossen. 1027 01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:39,420 And thank you to the Finance Committee who've been looking at this and significant detail. 1028 01:24:42,530 --> 01:24:43,790 That's it, comes to yours. 1029 01:24:45,910 --> 01:24:46,870 Any questions? 1030 01:24:48,350 --> 01:24:49,370 First off, 1031 01:24:53,510 --> 01:24:55,790 seeing none all those in favor? 1032 01:24:56,630 --> 01:24:58,030 Those opposed motion carries. 1033 01:25:04,970 --> 01:25:06,410 Any questions, comments? 1034 01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:11,160 I'll call the question, all those in favor. 1035 01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:12,840 Those opposed motion carries. 1036 01:25:16,270 --> 01:25:18,570 That one we need to pause if we do that. 1037 01:25:18,570 --> 01:25:22,730 It's a very significant one, we're creating a village center here. 1038 01:25:22,890 --> 01:25:25,710 We've got a motion counter one, we've got a second group, council guy. 1039 01:25:28,170 --> 01:25:30,450 This would be a significant thing if it goes ahead. 1040 01:25:32,910 --> 01:25:37,110 Well, all in favor, those opposed seeing none, motion carried. 1041 01:25:41,810 --> 01:25:45,070 Any comments on the landscape regulation update? 1042 01:25:47,300 --> 01:25:49,360 Seeing none, call the question, what was in favor, 1043 01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:51,300 opposed motion carried? 1044 01:25:57,670 --> 01:25:58,610 Look at that. 1045 01:25:59,610 --> 01:26:00,350 Councilor Ferris. 1046 01:26:00,350 --> 01:26:07,610 I'm going to declare a conflict of interest as BC housing owns that property and turning points as contracted and I worked for turning points. 1047 01:26:08,050 --> 01:26:09,490 Thank you, Councillor Verne. 1048 01:26:15,750 --> 01:26:19,490 Never. Miss Wood is too sharp for that. 1049 01:26:20,350 --> 01:26:22,710 And as have the one is before Miss Wood, 1050 01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:26,700 confidence staff is always a good thing. 1051 01:26:29,170 --> 01:26:38,450 Council. To have any questions on this, how do you agreement? Seeing none, 1052 01:26:38,610 --> 01:26:41,590 call the question on those in favour of those opposed motion carried. 1053 01:26:42,310 --> 01:26:43,370 Do you want to grab Mr. Councillor? 1054 01:26:44,190 --> 01:26:44,950 Mr. Councillor? 1055 01:26:45,950 --> 01:26:47,890 Or maybe Mr. Rao. 1056 01:26:54,410 --> 01:26:55,810 I knew I forgot to do something. 1057 01:27:34,940 --> 01:27:37,620 All right, we'll move now to 1058 01:27:39,670 --> 01:27:40,630 council updates. 1059 01:27:40,630 --> 01:27:41,370 I 1060 01:27:46,810 --> 01:27:52,450 need to start out how my immediate right and all 1061 01:27:55,870 --> 01:27:59,650 of us have done a probably a few things since the 20th of July. 1062 01:28:05,580 --> 01:28:08,680 I have really go now to Councilor Durning. 1063 01:28:10,990 --> 01:28:17,570 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So I had the honor of being the acting mayor for the last part of July. 1064 01:28:17,570 --> 01:28:32,570 And I did want to thank our community for all their support during that time, during extreme drought and their cooperation has just absolutely been phenomenal, especially it's been a dire for so many. 1065 01:28:33,130 --> 01:28:35,670 And I just wanted to say thank you to the public for that. 1066 01:28:35,670 --> 01:28:43,310 I was very proud to be able to be the acting mayor for the connection of the Reclaimed Water Initiative. 1067 01:28:45,770 --> 01:28:54,610 I think primarily by the city and was very happy to see that and see that active as of today that water distribution. 1068 01:28:55,750 --> 01:29:01,030 So, a real win for the citizens and a real win for us as the city of Vernon. 1069 01:29:02,330 --> 01:29:11,050 Also, several of us were on site for the wildfire, the evening of the wildfire, and I 1070 01:29:11,050 --> 01:29:14,250 got to tell you it was impactful. 1071 01:29:14,830 --> 01:29:17,130 I think that's the only way to have for it. 1072 01:29:17,510 --> 01:29:18,670 Something I won't soon forget. 1073 01:29:19,550 --> 01:29:21,310 And my heart is the mayor's. 1074 01:29:21,630 --> 01:29:27,170 It also goes out to those people and seeing that night was pretty horrendous. 1075 01:29:27,170 --> 01:29:36,630 and was something I've been watching kind of roll out to today even, so the need is still there, 1076 01:29:36,990 --> 01:29:46,150 so we need to keep keeping supportive of that. I've also attended several events, business after 1077 01:29:46,150 --> 01:29:52,190 five, I was able to attend the Kloena Airport Advisory Meeting for Councilor Mundon. I never 1078 01:29:52,190 --> 01:29:56,710 have been to that and I understand that grab one of the reasons we moved here was for. 1079 01:30:00,660 --> 01:30:06,720 How much I didn't know about the airport and the impact on the entire region. So thank you, Councillor 1080 01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:10,540 Month, for giving me that opportunity and that's all I'm going to report on today. 1081 01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:16,360 Councillor. 1082 01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:23,600 Yeah, last week I attended two different overdose awareness events for overdose awareness day and 1083 01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:31,640 burning. Prior to that, I attended the City of Vernon Finance Committee, climate action committee, and the youth climate 1084 01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:39,640 course, YCC Showcase over at the library. Also completed this city's annual 1085 01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:45,400 respectful workplace training. Invited to be a guest speaker of the National 1086 01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:51,000 Cadet Advisory Council, which was great. I attended two art exhibits, one put on 1087 01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:55,360 by Archways Society for Domestic Peace, and by the Canadian Mental Health 1088 01:30:55,360 --> 01:31:02,180 Association. And as Councillor Durney said, I spent some time with her volunteering for 1089 01:31:02,180 --> 01:31:07,860 that open-up in Indian Vens emergency reception center at the night of the fire. And 1090 01:31:07,860 --> 01:31:14,860 it was definitely a very summer experience to see the trauma in real-time. And I had 1091 01:31:14,860 --> 01:31:18,860 soft to okay at the council and the fire department and everyone else that was still instrumental 1092 01:31:18,860 --> 01:31:19,480 in responding. 1093 01:31:25,810 --> 01:31:30,110 Councillor Durney Thanks, Mr. Mayor. Going back all the way to July 22nd. 1094 01:31:30,110 --> 01:31:37,350 It was an RD&O meeting on the 29th, GVAC held a special meeting relating to the 2026 1095 01:31:37,350 --> 01:31:42,710 drought and also relating to some proposed new wells in the Cold Stream Valley aquifer. 1096 01:31:45,930 --> 01:31:50,110 Being a special meeting, it conflicted with another meeting of mine, the Climate Action 1097 01:31:50,110 --> 01:31:50,810 Advisory Committee. 1098 01:31:50,970 --> 01:31:54,250 So thanks to Councilor Fair for stepping in for me on that one. 1099 01:31:54,250 --> 01:31:59,670 August the 5th, I went down to an official opening, 1100 01:31:59,930 --> 01:32:03,910 ribbon cutting for a segment of the rail trail, 1101 01:32:04,050 --> 01:32:07,650 running from north-colonar, from the airport right up 1102 01:32:07,650 --> 01:32:08,670 through into late countries. 1103 01:32:08,730 --> 01:32:12,470 So there's only one tiny piece of the rail trail left to complete, 1104 01:32:13,110 --> 01:32:14,690 and that's going to happen pretty soon. 1105 01:32:15,430 --> 01:32:17,390 And then on the second of September, 1106 01:32:18,790 --> 01:32:20,110 the collaborative leadership table, 1107 01:32:20,170 --> 01:32:22,970 which we're part of, this organization 1108 01:32:22,970 --> 01:32:29,910 of the mayors and chiefs up and down the valley. There's a couple of committees that that group has 1109 01:32:29,910 --> 01:32:34,250 governance committee being one of them and I'm chairing that governance committee. So we had a meeting 1110 01:32:34,250 --> 01:32:35,510 on the second of September. 1111 01:32:40,570 --> 01:32:46,650 Com for yours. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So I attended to 1112 01:32:47,210 --> 01:32:56,330 Chamber meetings for their advocacy committee for both July and for August. I also had several meetings 1113 01:32:56,330 --> 01:33:03,810 with the Oconorgan Regional Library for discussing obviously the provincial funding and I have good news 1114 01:33:03,810 --> 01:33:10,470 to report to do to all the advocacy efforts that we put forward. Our funding has been restored 1115 01:33:10,470 --> 01:33:18,390 for the Oconorgan Regional Library. So I think that's a good win considering that obviously they 1116 01:33:18,390 --> 01:33:24,590 heard us loud and clear and we're back where we were. So whatever happens moving forward that's 1117 01:33:24,590 --> 01:33:28,850 Obviously going to be for the next board to decide, but it's a good way to kind of finish 1118 01:33:28,850 --> 01:33:30,510 this board term. 1119 01:33:31,230 --> 01:33:32,190 That's it. 1120 01:33:35,530 --> 01:33:36,250 Councillor Munn. 1121 01:33:36,490 --> 01:33:37,150 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 1122 01:33:37,870 --> 01:33:42,330 Again, we'll just touch on the wildfire with this water, thank all the staff opening up the 1123 01:33:42,330 --> 01:33:43,210 emergency center. 1124 01:33:43,970 --> 01:33:51,410 It was, as Kelly had said, it was quite eye-opening to watch the goings on that night. 1125 01:33:52,450 --> 01:33:56,870 I'll also to you, Mr. Mayor, for coming back off your vacation off the island, coming back 1126 01:33:56,870 --> 01:34:03,170 dealing with situation, a community for that. It's not not easy when you have to deal with the general 1127 01:34:03,170 --> 01:34:12,210 public when they have no idea what it takes to keep everybody safe and it was emergency services 1128 01:34:12,210 --> 01:34:19,050 did a fine job. I ran into RCMP officers at the roadblocks doing a fine job. Everybody came together. 1129 01:34:20,090 --> 01:34:24,950 There's only so much you can do and I think kudos to everybody who was involved and 1130 01:34:24,950 --> 01:34:31,750 If you're staff, I went over from Elk's lodge, over the Caltarit Place, and they were flying. 1131 01:34:31,970 --> 01:34:36,590 They had it up. All the volunteers were in place, so it was well done. 1132 01:34:37,330 --> 01:34:42,790 So congratulations to everybody, and again, my hards go out to all those people who lost their homes out there. 1133 01:34:47,740 --> 01:34:47,900 Councillor. 1134 01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:49,460 Thanks, Mr. Mayor. 1135 01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:51,860 Just can I just ask a question. 1136 01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:57,880 Councillor Garza, did other libraries get their funding restored or just ours? 1137 01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:00,740 The list was long of the fund of the libraries. 1138 01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:02,080 Yeah. 1139 01:35:02,660 --> 01:35:05,600 It was called major libraries when they announced it. 1140 01:35:05,740 --> 01:35:07,300 We were considered a major library. 1141 01:35:13,150 --> 01:35:14,090 Well, that's great work. 1142 01:35:14,310 --> 01:35:14,910 Well then. 1143 01:35:15,210 --> 01:35:17,450 And then the other thing I forgot to mention is, 1144 01:35:18,070 --> 01:35:20,150 I'm acting mayor next month in October, 1145 01:35:20,350 --> 01:35:22,750 but I'm going to be out of town from the 19th of the 31st. 1146 01:35:22,870 --> 01:35:26,410 So I need to sub for that period as acting mayor. 1147 01:35:27,370 --> 01:35:31,270 And my friend Theresa has kindly offered to do that for me. 1148 01:35:31,270 --> 01:35:34,230 So I think we need a motion to make that official. 1149 01:35:37,440 --> 01:35:37,580 Second. 1150 01:35:37,820 --> 01:35:38,580 Council guy. 1151 01:35:39,580 --> 01:35:40,380 All in favor? 1152 01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:43,020 Motion is carried. 1153 01:35:47,820 --> 01:35:48,400 Journey is it. 1154 01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:49,240 Okay. 1155 01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:52,380 Thank you for that. 1156 01:35:57,160 --> 01:35:57,540 All right. 1157 01:35:57,820 --> 01:35:58,800 Mayor's report. 1158 01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:06,380 In, like, 20th of July seems long for a long time ago. 1159 01:36:06,380 --> 01:36:16,240 So, that week, I spent a couple of times with great room water staff talking to Agrival 1160 01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:23,120 for Operators, one night we were in Goldstream Hall, and we had 95 ag operators. 1161 01:36:23,820 --> 01:36:31,040 This is the discussing the impacts of stage three water restrictions, and I had discussions 1162 01:36:31,860 --> 01:36:39,280 the next few days fairly extensively with some individual ag operators in the city of 1163 01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:44,580 Vernon. And that was the beginning of the discussions of what we could do with treated 1164 01:36:44,580 --> 01:36:52,060 wastewater. I know that our staff became involved. I know that it had involved a number 1165 01:36:52,060 --> 01:36:57,910 of discussions in late July. And then I went on my holidays. I too attended the 1166 01:36:57,910 --> 01:37:03,170 trail completion because I was around like Councilor Mund when those first decisions were made 1167 01:37:03,170 --> 01:37:10,450 to create the rail trail and it was really neat to see the rail trail completed through to the 1168 01:37:10,450 --> 01:37:15,550 lake country and that will have a substantial impact on the city of Vernon. That one just 1169 01:37:15,550 --> 01:37:22,030 be very, very important of course, already you know and as Councilor Mund indicated I had had 1170 01:37:22,030 --> 01:37:27,090 Before we call it a plan, that after a week I was back because of the fires and I do appreciate it. 1171 01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:43,240 Up to everything and filed into our EOC and our ESS on Saturday, folks be the longest long weekend and just quite amazing to see the work that was done. 1172 01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:51,300 So thank you for everybody who did the emergency. Support services and all sorts of emergency operations and so much appreciated. 1173 01:37:51,300 --> 01:37:57,620 I'm looking over there at Mr. Bool. Obviously those on Saturday afternoon Saturday morning 1174 01:37:57,620 --> 01:38:02,680 suddenly realizing that we were going to be in something very significant and did the 1175 01:38:02,680 --> 01:38:11,020 precautionary thing which was to get our ESS organized in case it was cold and was in a few 1176 01:38:11,020 --> 01:38:19,640 hours it was cold. So much appreciated for that. When I as people will know I was here most days 1177 01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:29,640 with providing updates, connecting with the OCE and RESS and in touch on regular basis with Chief Wilson. 1178 01:38:30,500 --> 01:38:36,440 For those who don't know, Chief Wilson did call me just in that late afternoon. 1179 01:38:37,820 --> 01:38:42,720 And he was in his truck and he was leaving the reserve and he was calling a competitive evacuation. 1180 01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:49,200 and I pushed him through to Kevin Bull and then he informed me once he got to West 1181 01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:55,900 Corona on the Saturday night. So he and I have spoke many, many times since then. 1182 01:38:56,560 --> 01:39:01,800 We've had contact with each other every few days and getting updates. I want to thank 1183 01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:07,960 his staff who got caught in the center there at fire of both ends and their EOC was 1184 01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:15,840 trapped. So I want to really give my heart's quote to call in Martian and the Holy O.C. over in 1185 01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:25,140 NIR1. So after that we sort of toned down a little bit. I did attend on the 25th August 25th 1186 01:39:25,140 --> 01:39:35,220 the celebration of the Bill's Place expansion launch with Miss Hurt and that was a really exciting 1187 01:39:35,220 --> 01:39:40,000 Anything great proposed addition to Bill's place? 1188 01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:42,640 How many beds, 36 addition? 1189 01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:44,200 36. 1190 01:39:45,440 --> 01:39:54,000 So, just a very, very important time with a substantial seed donation from the Ford family foundation. 1191 01:39:54,940 --> 01:39:56,200 So, do watch that. 1192 01:39:56,200 --> 01:40:02,420 That will be a significant addition to that facility and a great thing for greater burden. 1193 01:40:02,420 --> 01:40:09,900 We went then myself, I'm just heard immediately went to with with the gross went to the ALC 1194 01:40:10,660 --> 01:40:18,220 construction staff barbecue just as a thank you to all the construction staff at noon on the 25th 1195 01:40:18,220 --> 01:40:23,200 great barbecue good food and also a chance to tour the facility again. 1196 01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:30,860 So that was a worthwhile and the next day deep conversations with Minister Niel 1197 01:40:30,860 --> 01:40:40,160 with Minister Poppum, with Minister Davis in his office, also Minister Kelly Green's office 1198 01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:49,900 all related to trying to get the approval for the use of treated effluent for agriculture. 1199 01:40:50,860 --> 01:40:57,920 So over a three or four or five day process, I think I was in calls with him four or five times. 1200 01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:05,180 I just want to thank Mr. Rice and his staff served for quickly turning out when around and being 1201 01:41:05,180 --> 01:41:06,100 absolutely ready. 1202 01:41:06,680 --> 01:41:13,040 The moment that we were given, go ahead and the official piece of paper to allow us to 1203 01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:14,260 connect those two pipes. 1204 01:41:14,620 --> 01:41:21,080 So thanks for getting it shovel ready and open and parts there and the whole system that then 1205 01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:22,060 ruled very quickly. 1206 01:41:22,060 --> 01:41:31,360 So, thank you all. I also was in meeting with Minister Parmar for us with Ms. Herd and Chief Wilson, 1207 01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:40,020 and calling Marchant about the North Aberdeen Plateau and the response of BC Wildfire, 1208 01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:47,560 to both the fires on the west side. And then recently I was involved with a meeting with Minister 1209 01:41:47,560 --> 01:42:00,680 with RDNO, regarding possible water sources as we go forward with the expected road to last through 1210 01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:10,680 2027. So a long discussion, chair by Bob Fleming, obviously. I would give you W and myself. 1211 01:42:11,680 --> 01:42:17,220 And then the next day I was again on a call with Minister Niel regarding the Aberdeen Plateau, 1212 01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:24,560 with Chief Wilson and Mayor Ireland, the three of us are there. We're presenting the work to 1213 01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:27,000 being done on the North Aberdeen Plateau. 1214 01:42:29,940 --> 01:42:32,960 So that is my update. 1215 01:42:38,010 --> 01:42:39,330 Thank you for varying with me 1216 01:42:39,330 --> 01:42:46,750 on that. Councillor God. If I might add a quick comment about water to what you said, 1217 01:42:46,750 --> 01:42:51,250 But it will be a G-VAC tomorrow. 1218 01:42:52,090 --> 01:42:57,310 There's a report in the regular G-VAC meeting about the drought itself and the drought response 1219 01:42:57,310 --> 01:42:58,110 and the results. 1220 01:42:59,350 --> 01:43:07,270 And it turns out that creative rain and water ended up managing the situation very well. 1221 01:43:08,930 --> 01:43:16,210 Residential youths dropped by 60%, the target was 50 and overall in the distribution area, 1222 01:43:16,210 --> 01:43:19,350 which is a permanent cold stream in most of B&C. 1223 01:43:20,230 --> 01:43:22,670 You use it's dropped 60%. 1224 01:43:22,670 --> 01:43:25,430 And then on the ag side, the media 1225 01:43:26,630 --> 01:43:28,830 talking about a 70% reduction. 1226 01:43:31,690 --> 01:43:35,730 But in fact, the actual use over the season 1227 01:43:36,450 --> 01:43:39,330 was down 33% from normal. 1228 01:43:41,330 --> 01:43:43,890 There's a difference between what's the allocation 1229 01:43:43,890 --> 01:43:51,150 and what's actually used, and people reported that the allocation was reduced by 70 and that may be true. 1230 01:43:51,470 --> 01:43:54,610 But since most farmers only use roughly half of what they're allocated, 1231 01:43:55,450 --> 01:43:58,310 the actual water use was down 33%. 1232 01:43:58,310 --> 01:44:05,470 So, greater than water actually did a good job of spreading the pain of the shortage around fairly and equally, 1233 01:44:06,270 --> 01:44:08,290 and keeping us out of stage four. 1234 01:44:08,290 --> 01:44:14,750 Now, as you said, Mr. Mayor, we're still very, very low in terms of reservoirs and 1235 01:44:14,750 --> 01:44:20,930 Cal Lake and the upper reservoirs, and with the Super El Nino strengthening and coming 1236 01:44:20,930 --> 01:44:27,550 through Fall in Winter 27, it's more than likely that we're going to see warm dry winter, 1237 01:44:28,610 --> 01:44:34,410 and so we've really got to take some action to prepare for this. 1238 01:44:36,630 --> 01:44:45,170 for seeing the same problem dealing with the same problem next year, and the water utility 1239 01:44:45,170 --> 01:44:49,050 operators are recommending we stay in state. I'm going to recommend tomorrow, I would 1240 01:44:49,050 --> 01:44:51,150 feedback that we stay in stage three. 1241 01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:56,240 Hiya. 1242 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:10,660 Finish that up. There has been some misinformation about water sources that GVW has access to, and I just want to take a moment to correct the record. 1243 01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:22,000 GVW has access to some, obviously to the Digital Plateau and Cal Lake, they also have access to some deep water wells in the Cold Stream Valley. 1244 01:45:22,580 --> 01:45:30,580 And once they put everyone on stage three, they began to use those deep water wells. 1245 01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:34,820 So people are saying, why didn't you drill any wells in the Cold Spring Valley? 1246 01:45:35,020 --> 01:45:40,400 Well, the answer is, they already were wells drilled in the Cold Spring Valley in the 1960s. 1247 01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:42,380 In the 1960s, and they were brought on stream. 1248 01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:44,040 They come with them. 1249 01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:49,540 They come some difficulties with water chemistry and requires some different treatment and 1250 01:45:49,540 --> 01:45:55,680 management, but if you've been out in Livington, you will see signs saying, you're now on this 1251 01:45:55,680 --> 01:46:01,620 well, you're now, and go somewhere else, you'll find out you're now on this well. So, Great 1252 01:46:01,620 --> 01:46:09,740 Vernon Water did access all three of their sources and did 2027, looks like they all have access 1253 01:46:09,740 --> 01:46:17,280 spoken on the lake through the canoe beach intake pipe. 1254 01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:22,080 So in 2027, it looks like they'll lack just four sources. 1255 01:46:22,620 --> 01:46:25,820 And it's important for the public to know that the creative 1256 01:46:25,820 --> 01:46:30,940 room water applied through with friend to get access 1257 01:46:30,940 --> 01:46:40,700 spoken on Blake in 2000 and 19, and it took six and a half years to get approval from the 1258 01:46:40,700 --> 01:46:44,740 Ministry to move water licenses from BX Creek to Ocarong Lake. 1259 01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:48,600 So when people indicate, well, why didn't you get access to Ocarong Lake? 1260 01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:53,500 The answer is, six and a half years ago, we asked for it. 1261 01:46:54,200 --> 01:46:57,080 And promptly, six and a half years later, we got it. 1262 01:46:57,880 --> 01:47:04,480 So, for those who feel like it's been a long time, it has been a long time, and we look 1263 01:47:04,480 --> 01:47:06,600 like by 27 will access. 1264 01:47:07,020 --> 01:47:12,440 We also have access to an additional source in its temporary water sources, Mr. Rice, maybe 1265 01:47:12,440 --> 01:47:16,280 we can give us an update, which is our treated efflimate. 1266 01:47:16,540 --> 01:47:21,520 So we'll have access to yet another source in 2027 that we historically didn't. 1267 01:47:21,700 --> 01:47:26,040 So Mr. Rice, is that still a temporary permit or where are we at in terms of that? 1268 01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:30,680 Thank you, Your Worship. So the authorization supply reclaimed water into the Goose Lake 1269 01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:37,960 irrigation system was for a one-year period in 2026 and it comes due in December. We are 1270 01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:44,160 making another application shortly to expand that authorization to the end of next year. 1271 01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:49,940 And then the hope is that should Council approve us proceeding with the amendment to the 1272 01:47:49,940 --> 01:47:54,980 Liquorways Management Plan next year. It would be built in permanently into that plan and we 1273 01:47:54,980 --> 01:48:00,380 have our offerings certificate modified. So we don't expect that the province will give 1274 01:48:00,380 --> 01:48:06,320 us a much push back on the extension of the authorization. Obviously it's really important. 1275 01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:10,860 So that's currently where we're sitting right now. So I think it's just really important for 1276 01:48:10,860 --> 01:48:17,040 people to understand that the great room water has been at this for a long time and we will have 1277 01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:24,620 access probably in 2027 if we can probably get this permit to five different sources and so 1278 01:48:24,620 --> 01:48:28,620 good work is being ahead with the concern of low water in 2027. 1279 01:48:34,830 --> 01:48:40,570 All right, we'll move now to correspondence and I see council garrison's lights on, 1280 01:48:40,670 --> 01:48:41,490 council garrison. 1281 01:48:41,710 --> 01:48:43,010 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 1282 01:48:44,370 --> 01:48:52,050 I know that I was the one that requested this letter to be deferred, but I would like to defer it again to this September 28th meeting. 1283 01:48:52,790 --> 01:48:58,650 And the reason why I am recommending the deferral is I had met with the DVA. 1284 01:48:58,650 --> 01:49:03,130 And I'm doing this on behalf of Council Requiring because of course he's not here today. 1285 01:49:04,530 --> 01:49:09,350 Part of the discussion that we had all those is quite a limited discussion. 1286 01:49:10,330 --> 01:49:16,750 The comment that you had made with regards to their funding and whether or not they would be doing matching. 1287 01:49:17,810 --> 01:49:24,870 They would like to be able to take that to the board and they're having a board meeting on September 15th, so just after this one. 1288 01:49:24,870 --> 01:49:31,390 So if Council is okay, if we'd re-defer this back to the September 28th, and then we would 1289 01:49:31,390 --> 01:49:38,670 have an update from the DVA through Councilor Quarnas, he is there liaison to that information. 1290 01:49:39,830 --> 01:49:41,090 Okay, move to the front, 1291 01:49:44,060 --> 01:49:49,400 hold on, favor, motion carried, okay, good, thank you. 1292 01:49:49,720 --> 01:49:56,260 All right, flicking at this reddit correspondence, I'd like to move that we do a letter 1293 01:49:56,260 --> 01:50:06,560 of support to Science Center, and answer a guy in the comments, all in favour, motion carried. 1294 01:50:07,400 --> 01:50:13,300 There's minutes that are here just making you aware and seeing there's no further 1295 01:50:13,300 --> 01:50:16,920 business. I will adjourn the meeting. 1296 01:50:20,640 --> 01:50:22,200 Literally. You'll shut her down. 1297 01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:31,120 Thank you remarks. Much appreciated.